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1Never tell your password to anyone.
2Wednesday, November 9, 2016
34:45 PM - Trentv4: What do you think of me when I say I'm proud of my nation
44:46 PM - Chzcake: You must actually be retarded
54:47 PM - Trentv4: y
64:47 PM - Chzcake: Trying to explain it would be a waste of time
74:48 PM - Chzcake: Because I know how you work trent
84:48 PM - Chzcake: You'll just argue because you like to
94:48 PM - Trentv4: What?
104:48 PM - Trentv4: I don't argue because I like to
114:48 PM - Chzcake: Yes you do
124:48 PM - Chzcake: You've said so yourself
134:48 PM - Trentv4: Fucking no I haven't
144:48 PM - Trentv4: I only argue when someone's being a retard
154:49 PM - Chzcake: You argue all the time then, since you're always being a retard
164:49 PM - Chzcake: oooh get fucked
174:49 PM - Trentv4: coming from you, that hurts
184:49 PM - Trentv4: since you're the one who forgot that < is a less-than sign
194:49 PM - Chzcake: It's an older meme, but it checks out sir
204:50 PM - Trentv4: I have the chat log
214:50 PM - Trentv4: I have to go to class now
224:50 PM - Chzcake: sure
235:54 PM - Trentv4: I've arrived
245:54 PM - Trentv4: Someone almost hit a pedestrian on the sidewalk on my way to class
255:54 PM - Chzcake: It only took you an hour
265:54 PM - Trentv4: Yep. That's my commute
275:54 PM - Chzcake: Fucking rip gas
285:54 PM - Trentv4: I drive a truck
295:55 PM - Chzcake: FUCKING RIP GAS
305:55 PM - Trentv4: It's a truck from 2000
315:56 PM - Chzcake: I wish I could type bolder font than just capslock
325:56 PM - Trentv4: On good nights it's just 50m
335:57 PM - Trentv4: Most of the drive is 60mph
346:01 PM - Chzcake is now Away.
356:02 PM - Trentv4: Chz
366:03 PM - Chzcake is now Online.
376:03 PM - Chzcake: wat
386:04 PM - Trentv4: What did you mean when you said I was a retard for supporting trump
396:04 PM - Trentv4: What is your reasoning
406:04 PM - Chzcake: Do I have to go any further than he believes that global warming is a Chinese conspiracy
416:05 PM - Chzcake: I figure that should be more than enough to realise how fucking stupid he is
426:05 PM - Trentv4: There is an underlying issue with the chinese there, though
436:05 PM - Trentv4: We have enviromental regulations, they don't
446:05 PM - Trentv4: So it's cheaper to build in china
456:06 PM - Chzcake: That had nothing to do with believing global warming does not exist at all outside of Chinese conspiracy
466:07 PM - Trentv4: Is that your only issue
476:08 PM - Chzcake: Would you fuck your daughter trent
486:08 PM - Chzcake: He would
496:10 PM - Trentv4: He wouldn't
506:10 PM - Trentv4: If she wasn't his daughter he would
516:10 PM - Trentv4: But she is, so he wouldn't
526:11 PM - Chzcake: You still woudn't say that shit on tv
536:12 PM - Trentv4: It was a compliment ya dingus
546:13 PM - Trentv4: and it wasn't fucking he said
556:14 PM - Chzcake: No matter how you spin it, it's still a very weird and creepy thing to say
566:14 PM - Chzcake: I only wonder if he said that about his mother instead of his daughter, if that would be better or worse.
576:15 PM - Chzcake: But hey, the bill to make weed legal passed, so that's good.
586:15 PM - Trentv4: hold up
596:19 PM - Chzcake: https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/5c152p/as_a_hilary_supporter_in_colorado_im_still_happy/
606:20 PM - Trentv4: I'm back
616:20 PM - Trentv4: I'll agree it was a shitty compliment
626:22 PM - Trentv4: Frame it like he was talking about another woman and it is okay
636:22 PM - Trentv4: I'd say it was just a speaking mistake at the time
646:22 PM - Trentv4: Mouth keeps going before the brain catches up
656:23 PM - Chzcake: The best part of being Canadian right now is not having to deal with the aftermatch
666:23 PM - Chzcake: aftermath*
676:23 PM - Trentv4: The aftermath is gonna be great
686:23 PM - Trentv4: MAGA bitch
696:24 PM - Chzcake: Gonna make America great again
706:24 PM - Chzcake: Nanomachines son
716:24 PM - Trentv4: hmm?
726:24 PM - Chzcake: NANOMACHINES SON
736:24 PM - Trentv4: what you mean
746:25 PM - Chzcake: Did you not watch the lates Vinny video where he played Metal Gear Revengeance
756:25 PM - Trentv4: didn't have time
766:26 PM - Trentv4: I saw a guy with sword kill a stationary machine gun and was like, "I can watch this later."
776:26 PM - Chzcake: You didn't get to the best parts
786:26 PM - Chzcake: That game is actually a huge meme
796:27 PM - Trentv4: I just got an email that my amazon order was cancelled
806:27 PM - Trentv4: For a package I received today
816:27 PM - Trentv4: That is sitting on my desk right now
826:29 PM - Chzcake: Well shit you better send it back
836:29 PM - Trentv4: I've been receiving payment errors for a few days
846:29 PM - Trentv4: Even though it's registered on my bank
856:33 PM - Trentv4: Do you have any ACTUAL issues with Trump as president besides him being trump
866:33 PM - Chzcake: Build a wall
876:33 PM - Trentv4: What's wrong with that
886:33 PM - Chzcake: Literally the dumbest fucking idea
896:34 PM - Trentv4: Not really
906:34 PM - Trentv4: Look at hungary and slovakia
916:34 PM - Trentv4: They built walls to keep the muslims out
926:34 PM - Trentv4: >china
936:34 PM - Trentv4: It's actually a really great idea
946:34 PM - Trentv4: You can't de-fund a wall
956:34 PM - Chzcake: The Great Wall of China was for the Mongols and stopped working so well after the invention of gunpowder.
966:34 PM - Trentv4: this ain't civ 5
976:35 PM - Trentv4: The wall is gonna be there if you pay for it or not
986:35 PM - Trentv4: Can't say that about the border patrol
996:35 PM - Chzcake: That ain't civ 5. That's what it was actually for.
1006:36 PM - Trentv4: I mean useless after gunpowder
1016:36 PM - Chzcake: Conventional explosives versus a stone wall.
1026:37 PM - Chzcake: I think we all know the outcome of that.
1036:38 PM - Trentv4: Because illegals often carry c4 as they cross the border
1046:38 PM - Trentv4: And coyotes want to draw attention with huge explosions as they ferry people over
1056:38 PM - Chzcake: Because it is so difficult to homebrew some explosives.
1066:40 PM - Trentv4: Even if you just make it harder, then that encourages more to legally do it
1076:40 PM - Chzcake: Trent, other than the obviously explosive materials you already have in your house, how much do you want to bet you have a good portion of the shit you would need to make your own bomb
1086:41 PM - Trentv4: 100% I do have explosives
1096:41 PM - Chzcake: I said other than the shit you already have that is clearly explosives
1106:41 PM - Trentv4: 100%
1116:41 PM - Trentv4: I don't care about people entering legally, that's fine. Trump states on his website I think that he wants to make the legal process easier
1126:42 PM - Trentv4: I care about people doing it illegally
1136:43 PM - Trentv4: Any other wall issues
1146:43 PM - Chzcake: Gonna make the Mexicans pay for it
1156:43 PM - Chzcake: Good luck with that
1166:43 PM - Trentv4: Check his website
1176:44 PM - Trentv4: There is an actual plan
1186:45 PM - Trentv4: https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf
1196:45 PM - Chzcake: I don't care enough. I am content to sit here and laugh at all the stupid shit he says
1206:45 PM - Chzcake: When he starts taking away my dank memes or American illegals start showing up, then I will care
1216:46 PM - Trentv4: Then don't be like "you voted in a literal retard"
1226:47 PM - Trentv4: because we didn't
1236:47 PM - Chzcake: You can't really say that yet. There's not a whole lot he's done to prove he isn't actually a retard. At least there is retarded shit he's said to prove that he may actually be a literal retard.
1246:50 PM - Trentv4: A lot of the stuff sounds retarded until you actually look at it and the plan
1256:50 PM - Trentv4: There's not much at all I have an issue with regarding him
1266:51 PM - Trentv4: Climate change is pretty much the only one I can think of
1276:52 PM - Trentv4: Everything else - perfect leader
1286:52 PM - Chzcake: You have to admit that the climate change thing is probably the most retarded thing anyone has ever said
1296:52 PM - Chzcake: Like holy shit
1306:52 PM - Trentv4: It's pretty silly, but there's some tangentally related material
1316:54 PM - Trentv4: Is that it
1326:54 PM - Chzcake: Why do you care so much trent
1336:55 PM - Trentv4: Because I don't like seeing people be misled into being wrong
1346:55 PM - Chzcake: That's funny coming from you trent
1356:55 PM - Chzcake: You literally pride yourself on misleading people
1366:56 PM - Trentv4: As a joke
1376:56 PM - Chzcake: It still applies
1386:56 PM - Trentv4: But shit like the most important man in the world isn't a joke
1396:56 PM - Chzcake: I gotta say the people who pioneer technology are vastly more important than Prez
1406:57 PM - Trentv4: Some shithead in a lab making drug #2001452 is more important than the man who leads the biggest army and nation in the world
1416:57 PM - Trentv4: k
1426:57 PM - Trentv4: most important nation*
1436:58 PM - Chzcake: Without advancements in technology, you could not be arguing this shit with me right now
1446:58 PM - Trentv4: Yeah that shit is important
1456:58 PM - Trentv4: Not as important as him
1466:58 PM - Chzcake: When did you move to South Korea to praise Dear Leader
1476:59 PM - Chzcake: Or become a devout Christian and worship God
1487:00 PM - Trentv4: I'm not even joking
1497:00 PM - Trentv4: President of the US is the most important person in the world unironically
1507:00 PM - Trentv4: Name me someone else more important
1517:00 PM - Chzcake: Putin.
1527:01 PM - Trentv4: russia doesn't have the political or military might of the US
1537:01 PM - Chzcake: The only thing that really matters at this point is who controls the nukes.
1547:02 PM - Chzcake: All it takes is one person to hit the big red button to fuck everything and suddenly we're collecting bottlecaps and fighting off Ghouls
1557:02 PM - Trentv4: see: us president
1567:03 PM - Chzcake: Russia also controls are large number of nukes. Or do you not remember that the Cold War was a thing
1577:03 PM - Trentv4: I would say they're both equal
1587:03 PM - Trentv4: Drop nukes out of the equation and you still have the US stronger in politics and economics and military
1597:04 PM - Trentv4: Is there something I missed
1607:06 PM - Chzcake: The chemtrails
1617:07 PM - Trentv4: Chemtrails are just a meme
1627:08 PM - Trentv4: Did I change your mind?
1637:08 PM - Chzcake: Nope. Remember trent, Canada. I don't care
1647:08 PM - Chzcake: Just give me the memes
1657:09 PM - Trentv4: The most important person in the world is something to care about
1667:10 PM - Chzcake: If he is the most important in the entire world, then why is it not a worldwide vote
1677:10 PM - Trentv4: Because my nation is the most important one
1687:11 PM - Chzcake: The funny part here is that this is the exact same kind of shit that people in North Korea will say
1697:12 PM - Trentv4: What do you mean
1707:13 PM - Chzcake: They also belive that their leader is the most important person in the world, their nation is the greatest, and blah blah blah
1717:13 PM - Trentv4: The thing is, they're wrong. I'm right.
1727:13 PM - Trentv4: I can point to thinks to show that my nation is more important
1737:14 PM - Chzcake: And so can they. The thing is there's this thing called perspective
1747:14 PM - Chzcake: And how everyones is different
1757:14 PM - Trentv4: There's also this thing called factgs
1767:15 PM - Trentv4: facts*. I don't see NK having a veto vote on the UN, lead member of NATO, or having the best army in the world
1777:15 PM - Trentv4: Or more landmass, or more resources, or more population
1787:16 PM - Trentv4: You'll agree that the US is the most important in the world, right
1797:16 PM - Chzcake: Nope
1807:18 PM - Trentv4: Why not?
1817:19 PM - Chzcake: Because at the end of the day if the US were to suddenly and irreversably be erased both as a nation and as a landmass, the rest of the world could still live on
1827:19 PM - Trentv4: You can say that about any other nation on earth
1837:19 PM - Trentv4: And any other nation would still have an impact
1847:19 PM - Trentv4: still have less of an impact**
1857:19 PM - Chzcake: Which means that there is no nation that is most important.
1867:19 PM - Trentv4: That's not true either
1877:21 PM - Trentv4: Most important does not mean cannot live without
1887:21 PM - Trentv4: Someone can have a most important person in their life and still live without them
1897:23 PM - Chzcake: Imagine if Russia were to suddenly stop existing as a landmass. That means the area with the most trees in the world no longer exists. Hopefully the Europe area didn't really enjoy having a really oxygen rich environment.
1907:24 PM - Chzcake: Last time I checked, oxygen is important to live.
1917:25 PM - Trentv4: Imagine if America were to suddenly stop existing as a landmass. That means the area with the most scientists, coal production, significant amounts of trees and industrial areas no longer exists. Hopefully the world didn't really enjoy having 300 000 000 people, oxygen, and the extremely abundant resources
1927:26 PM - Chzcake: Coal power can be phased out if people would just use nuclear instead of fearing freak accidents. Burning coal actually releases more radiation than nuclear power.
1937:27 PM - Chzcake: Most scientists doesn't really mean shit if they are, in your words, "Some shithead in a lab making drug #2001452"
1947:27 PM - Trentv4: One doesn't matter all that much. The vast amount in the US does.
1957:29 PM - Chzcake: Except if they are all working on making drug #2001453 through #2001553, then what's the fucking difference
1967:29 PM - Trentv4: Because they aren't. They're across all the fields
1977:29 PM - Trentv4: Hope you didn't like SpaceX or NASA
1987:30 PM - Chzcake: Oh yey, pictures of space and readings about planets several lightyears away that we will never see
1997:30 PM - Trentv4: Hopefully you didn't like all of those products engineered in the US either
2007:30 PM - Chzcake: Awesome
2017:30 PM - Trentv4: Space research generates a shitton of other stuff too
2027:31 PM - Chzcake: Like wreckage that makes it to the bottom of the ocean and dead astronauts?
2037:32 PM - Trentv4: Go ahead and google 'nasa inventions'
2047:32 PM - Trentv4: There's a fuckton
2057:33 PM - Trentv4: What about all of those tech companies? Hope you don't miss Discord
2067:33 PM - Trentv4: Then, you look at Russia, which has
2077:33 PM - Trentv4: * oil
2087:33 PM - Trentv4: * trees
2097:33 PM - Chzcake: Other people exist. Eventually someone else comes along and will create the same thing
2107:34 PM - Trentv4: yeah, with what money?
2117:34 PM - Trentv4: there's a lot of money in a 300m tax base
2127:35 PM - Trentv4: The point is, you look at the US and you see all this shit, then you look at Russia and see so much less
2137:36 PM - Chzcake: You can sit here and argue all you would like. I still don't think that any one nation is the most important.
2147:37 PM - Trentv4: You've been misled, then, because you definitely can say 'one is more important' again and again until you have the most important
2157:39 PM - Chzcake: Not really. Once you get past the bottom tier and start trying to compare the superpowers, you will find that they're all so co-dependant that it becomes hard to distinguish which is actually more important.
2167:39 PM - Chzcake: At that point it become opinion on which nation brings more to the table.
2177:40 PM - Trentv4: Which would be America
2187:40 PM - Chzcake: Which is where the opinion comes into play.
2197:40 PM - Trentv4: No, facts
2207:40 PM - Trentv4: You can show one nation does more than the others
2217:42 PM - Chzcake: You're going to be arguing for quite a while here trent. I won't be budged.
2227:44 PM - Trentv4: You won't budge if the facts are against you?
2237:44 PM - Chzcake: Because at the point where you are comparing world superpowers, it become opinion.
2247:44 PM - Chzcake: You say America, I say there is no absolute most important.
2257:44 PM - Trentv4: No. not really. You can pull up statistics and show it
2267:45 PM - Chzcake: Because statistics have never been fudged before.
2277:45 PM - Trentv4: If statistics are fudged, they're not valid statistics
2287:46 PM - Chzcake: And the average person can tell which stats are real
2297:46 PM - Trentv4: Thats' not the issue at hand though
2307:46 PM - Chzcake: Except you continually argue about the stats
2317:47 PM - Trentv4: That's arguing about the method of the argument, not the argument itself
2327:46 PM - Chzcake: So the issue has shifted to how you can prove that the statistics you view are 100% unbiased and unmodified
2337:47 PM - Trentv4: You verify that then come back to the main issue in an argument
2347:49 PM - Trentv4: Important is defined as having power, authority, or influence. Right?
2357:52 PM - Chzcake: How important someone or something is is based on opinion and personal experience. Putin, Trump, or Kim Jong-un might be the most important person to some people because they hold lots of power and influence, regardless of whether or not they use it correctly. To others, the most important person might be Jimmy at the coffee shop because he knows how to make your coffee right every time when you're heading to work early in the morning. It's all subjective. Trump has not affected me in any way, and so he is not important to me at all.
2367:53 PM - Chzcake: Just remember that Hitler was also once the most important person in the world, although for completely wrong reasons.
2377:58 PM - Chzcake: Can we not just go back to playing games all day and being memeing fuckwads?
2387:59 PM - Trentv4: It's not at all based on opinion. It's based on facts. You can say the president has power over you because he can call down atomic hellfire on you, or he can have the laws changed to inconvenience you. Jimmy at coffeeshop also has power over you because he can make dirtwater, but not over me becasue I don't drink coffee
2397:59 PM - Trentv4: So the president clearly has more power than Jimmy
2408:00 PM - Chzcake: Except Mr Prez doesn't just make laws because he thinks you specifically are a fuckwad and is tired of your shit. He makes laws because otherwise shit would get fucked real quick.
2418:00 PM - Chzcake: It would not be a good time if there were 0 laws against murder.
2428:00 PM - Trentv4: dunno about you. I have lots of bullets
2438:02 PM - Chzcake: The problem is that if you go out and shoot someone because they looked at you funny, you then have police coming after you because you commited a crime. But if everyone with a gun and some bullets could just go out and kill a few people with no repurcussions, then I would want to live down there, or at least send a few people I would like to see shot down
2448:03 PM - Chzcake: If I had the chance to kill a single person without having to worry about cops, then I would take that chance in a heartbeat. I am willing to bet there are several people like that.
2458:04 PM - Trentv4: The prez has the ability to do something you can't though, which is power you don't have
2468:05 PM - Chzcake: Well then since Canada's Prime Minister can make choices that affect me, but Trumpler cannot, then that makes Trudeau more important than Trump
2478:07 PM - Trentv4: But Trump has some measure of control over Trudeau, and by extension you
2488:07 PM - Chzcake: Explain how he has control over Trudeau
2498:07 PM - Chzcake: Trudeau has great hair, so he already trumps Trump
2508:08 PM - Trentv4: Trump's hair is magnificent
2518:08 PM - Trentv4: He has influence over Trudeau when it comes to global policy
2528:08 PM - Chzcake: You gotta clarify.
2538:08 PM - Chzcake: Give a direct example
2548:09 PM - Trentv4: Iraq
2558:09 PM - Chzcake: That is not Canada
2568:09 PM - Trentv4: The US basically dragged canada into helping in Iraq and Afghanistan
2578:11 PM - Trentv4: So the prez through canada commanded canadian soldiers
2588:12 PM - Chzcake: You're gonna have to explain to me how Canada being pulled in was something that wasn't voluntary
2598:12 PM - Trentv4: nato
2608:12 PM - Trentv4: obligated as part of NATO
2618:13 PM - Chzcake: Which means that if Canada were to start a war with another country, the US would also be obligated to help.
2628:13 PM - Chzcake: So really that entire point is null
2638:14 PM - Trentv4: You'd also be certain that the US would be THE major force in the conflict
2648:15 PM - Chzcake: Because that is a good thing?
2658:16 PM - Trentv4: If it's a good thing or not is another matter. They would be.
2668:16 PM - Trentv4: Purely because of numbers
2678:18 PM - Trentv4: You can also say that the US military has more power because it's a deterrant
2688:18 PM - Chzcake: Because the numbers mean everything.
2698:18 PM - Chzcake: Always back to the statistics.
2708:18 PM - Trentv4: If someone thinks, "Hey, let's fuck up Canada", they're not going to worry about the canadian military as much as they do the US military
2718:19 PM - Chzcake: Although the Canadian military is just a strong, only smaller in size.
2728:19 PM - Chzcake: Historically many battles were won purely because of Canadian military actions.
2738:19 PM - Trentv4: any in the 20th or 21th century>
2748:20 PM - Chzcake: And yes you can say the same about the US, but they have larger numbers and that would be a given
2758:20 PM - Chzcake: You realize 20th century includes both WWI and WWII
2768:20 PM - Chzcake: Both of which Canadian forces were integral components.
2778:20 PM - Trentv4: hwat
2788:20 PM - Trentv4: enlighten me
2798:20 PM - Chzcake: The US didn't even go into WWII until the Japanese decided to fuck shit up
2808:21 PM - Chzcake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vimy_Ridge
2818:21 PM - Trentv4: I have never heard of this battle before.
2828:22 PM - Chzcake: It's talked about literally every single Rememberance Day.
2838:22 PM - Chzcake: Canadian forces pushed directly into a heavily fortified German position on high ground and took it within a day.
2848:23 PM - Trentv4: In school canadians are barely mentioned in the 2 wwars
2858:24 PM - Chzcake: Canadians also took part in the storming of Juno Beach
2868:24 PM - Trentv4: Pacific?
2878:24 PM - Chzcake: What do you mean? Is there some other Juno Beach?
2888:25 PM - Trentv4: I don't recall juno beach
2898:25 PM - Chzcake: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_Beach
2908:26 PM - Trentv4: I remember Normandy, Iwo Jima, Okinawa, the Philipines
2918:26 PM - Trentv4: Bulge too I think
2928:27 PM - Chzcake: Iwo Jima and Okinawa were largely American vs Japanese operations. Canadians were busy fighting the Fritz
2938:28 PM - Trentv4: What are the biggest European battles
2948:29 PM - Chzcake: European battles in which way? During WWI / WWII against Germans, or shit that the Europeans did, or what
2958:29 PM - Trentv4: WWI/II against hans
2968:30 PM - Chzcake: Well Juno Beach was actually a part of the invasion of Normandy.
2978:30 PM - Chzcake: So that would be a good choice.
2988:31 PM - Trentv4: d-day was all allies vs hans, correct?
2998:31 PM - Chzcake: Essentially yes. It was a 5 front offensive. The actual Juno Beach invasion did not contain any American forces however
3008:32 PM - Chzcake: And this one actually kinda surprised me here: The Vietnam War
3018:33 PM - Chzcake: Didn't take part in active battle, but sold near $2.5 billion in war materials and supplies, and near 30k Canadians volunteered to join US forces
3028:33 PM - Chzcake: piss break brb
3038:33 PM - Trentv4: 30k what
3048:33 PM - Chzcake: 30k Canadian soldiers
3058:33 PM - Trentv4: not civilians?
3068:34 PM - Chzcake: Why would civies volunteer to join a war when they have no combat experience or training
3078:34 PM - Trentv4: same reason they always do
3088:35 PM - Chzcake: I am sure many civies join the Canadian military
3098:35 PM - Chzcake: pisss break tho
3108:35 PM - Trentv4: go
3118:40 PM - Chzcake: Either way at this point I am tired of the political bullshit. How about we just drop all this shit and go back to the dank memes
3128:53 PM - Trentv4: okay.
3138:53 PM - Trentv4: 6:04 to 8:35
3148:54 PM - Trentv4: 2hrs 31m argument
3158:54 PM - Chzcake: About stupid shit.
3168:54 PM - Chzcake: We're both fucking geniuses.