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4DodgyLandings
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7##	2017-10-30T20:00:04+00:00	
8Yes. A drone isn't a small bird - some can be rather large and can and will do extensive damage at a few hundred knots. Commercial aviation is very risk adverse, hence why it's so exceptionally safe.
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10DodgyLandings
11##	2017-10-30T20:15:22+00:00	
12Not to dismiss the workload of the pilots, but holding is part of the day job. The reason is unconventional, as is the volume for ATC, but for the pilot in the hold it's business as usual. Main concern is fuel, and they'll have a plan and a min fuel state for when to divert - leaving enough to get there and land safely.
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14DodgyLandings
15##	2017-10-30T20:54:28+00:00	
16Cheers, figured we'd probably have an ATP or something somewhere
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18DodgyLandings
19##	2017-10-30T20:59:42+00:00	
20Why do that, seriously? It's literally a self fulfilling prophecy isn't it.
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22DodgyLandings
23##	2017-10-30T21:23:43+00:00	
24Sincere true story. When I was about ten or so my mum was rushed to hospital during the night. It was all played down of course and I didn't really understand the seriousness of the situation at that point - it was all very fun playing Lego with a random neighbour at 1am.
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26Anyway, this is the bit I remember so so vividly. I went downstairs to watch cartoons the next morning. It was literally the first time I'd ever had a night or morning without mum around as she was stay at home. The house felt really weird and cold and I was feeling a little lost. Grandad had relieved the neighbour and was asleep on the sofa. I headed into the kitchen, got some biscuits and when I turned around my mom was there, she hugged me and said 'I love you DodgyLandings'. As I let go she disappeared. Gone. So so freaky - I still get goosebumps now, for all intents and purposes she was there. Right there.
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28Anyway, I don't think you need me to tell you what happened at that time. Oh, wait, I probably do: Fuck all. Mum was a bit poorly but they sorted her and she was back in no time.
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30So, no. I don't believe in fuck all. Had she died I'd be one of those people telling folk about and probably being disbelieved. But she didn't. And so I think it's my duty to remember that as an answer to confirmation bias.
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32DodgyLandings
33##	2017-10-30T23:15:02+00:00	
34The Day Britain Stopped - remember watching that!
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36DodgyLandings
37##	2017-10-30T23:17:11+00:00	
38Except that's demonstrably bullshit. Birds, fucking birds, take down aircraft. Think about that for a moment.
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40DodgyLandings
41##	2017-10-30T23:19:55+00:00	
42Of course there was a risk, and a potentially significant one. Why do you feel that's untrue?
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44DodgyLandings
45##	2017-10-31T11:03:53+00:00	
46They used to have electric refuse trucks, too.
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48DodgyLandings
49##	2017-10-31T19:20:46+00:00	
50This sort of crap is rife in places like Russia. They need a 'send a message' sentence in my opinion.
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52DodgyLandings
53##	2017-11-01T10:01:07+00:00	
54But the problem with the current generation of young women is that they have somehow got it into their heads that they don’t have to stick up for themselves, or take responsibility for their own safety. Feminism has taught them that they are entitled to equality and respect, even if they have done nothing to earn it.
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56How lovely.
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58DodgyLandings
59##	2017-11-01T10:17:54+00:00	
60It really is. Everyone is entitled to respect in the sense of not being touched up, harassed or abused at work.
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62DodgyLandings
63##	2017-11-06T15:42:40+00:00	
64Open Space equals no services and no planning permission. Not something for a first timer on a budget.
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66I'm with you - self build is my dream, but you've got a hell of a long way to go.
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68DodgyLandings
69##	2017-11-06T20:45:51+00:00	
70As a rule, people are woefully misinformed on what a bunch of grotty, filthy cunts your average police customer is.
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72Having spent my fair amount of time with the underclass it's hard to feel sympathy for anyone ever crying about their treatment by the Police.
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74(Not disputing that abuse does occasionally occur, but those articles are exactly what I'm talking about. Just elicits an eye roll from me, now, as they're clearly written by somebody who has never had the pleasure of dealing with such filth)
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76DodgyLandings
77##	2017-11-07T17:57:10+00:00	
78Not checking somebody else's credit, you can't.
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80DodgyLandings
81##	2017-11-07T19:11:16+00:00	
82Hardly. I value the life of an innocent defenceless child over that of their murderer. A million times over.
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84Fuck him, I couldn't care less whether he lives or dies - he chose his actions and chose his fate.
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86DodgyLandings
87##	2017-11-08T08:33:24+00:00	
88How is justice for victims nonsensical? The justice system is, in part, a way of punishing and redressing criminal behaviour.
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90You can still have equal justice while taking the impact and victims into account.
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92DodgyLandings
93##	2017-11-08T08:45:04+00:00	
94Unfortunately, things like that are already true. You think jurors don't make decisions based on how those in the dock present themselves or articulate responses?
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96However, these impact statements are read out to the judge during sentencing. I believe our judges to be generally good at being able to decipher the statement in an impartial way. I do believe that victims should have the right to address the court, explain how the crime affected them. I think criminal acts should be shown the human effect - for example, burglary is not just taking things. If that person is now suffering from the lasting affects of the violation then I'm happy for that to be taken into account.
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98DodgyLandings
99##	2017-11-08T11:27:52+00:00	
100I think we just fundamentally disagree on this one. I think part of the process should be about the victims and about making them feel a part of the process and that justice is taking them into account.
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102Again, you reference evidence but that isn't what this is about. It's about sentencing and the judge understanding what the crime meant to the victim on a personal level.
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104For example, stealing a car. Stealing one from a dealers forecourt is one thing, stealing one from a disabled person who was completely reliant on said car is another. I think that should be reflected even if the underlying crime is similar.
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106DodgyLandings
107##	2017-11-08T11:30:40+00:00	
108Is it acceptable to point out that many people voting Brexit are literally fucking idiots?
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110DodgyLandings
111##	2017-11-08T11:49:48+00:00	
112You're right, I really meant the latter group. People who still think it's anything but a stupid idea.
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114DodgyLandings
115##	2017-11-09T10:30:05+00:00	
116Well, to a degree the sentencing guidelines already take some of this into account. Vulnerability of victim and additional impact can be considered aggravating factors. This is why context is important and is taken into account.
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118E.g.:
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120Trauma to the victim, beyond the normal inevitable consequence of intrusion and theft
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122I'd argue that an old widower is likely to be impacted considerably by a burglary, perhaps even choosing to leave their home. Either way, you seem to feel that none of this is, or should be, taken into account when that's not really true. You're arguing for an extreme which doesn't exist
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124DodgyLandings
125##	2017-11-09T21:35:39+00:00	
126What a worthless cunt. A complete waste of human life and nothing but a drain on society, civilisation and the universe as a whole. Hope he literally never steps out of prison again.
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128DodgyLandings
129##	2017-11-09T21:43:56+00:00	
130It wasn't by accident that the government didn't change the rules for Ltd Co investments. It was only ever lip service, or at best, a way to force everyone down one track.
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132Ltd Co investments already differ considerably in how they work and it's not always beneficial to move a property to one if it wasn't purchased originally.
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134I really wish people wouldnt keep implying that valid, above board, transparent and government encouraged mechanisms for working are loopholes or workarounds.
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136The Govt. changes the rules for non Ltd Co landlords - it's no surprise that the market will shift to accommodate more Ltd Co's.
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138DodgyLandings
139##	2017-11-10T08:13:33+00:00	
140Uh, no we don't. Trident isn't just about black gun crime anymore.
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142And I really don't get the sarcasm with your second point, given the charges and insane amount of knife crime in the UK.
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144DodgyLandings
145##	2017-11-10T08:53:03+00:00	
146I'm alright with the first option, to be honest. I simply don't feel he deserves that chance to be out to contribute.
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148DodgyLandings
149##	2017-11-10T15:52:43+00:00	
150hey still bill on a time-and-materials basis and become intertwined with the management chain of the client.
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152So does every consultancy, from 3 blokes and a kettle to the big boys such as a Capita and ATOS.
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154DodgyLandings
155##	2017-11-10T16:06:56+00:00	
156I sincerely can't tell if I agree with you or not - I'm still trying to work out how us consultants are exploiting companies?
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158DodgyLandings
159##	2017-11-10T16:57:18+00:00	
160I don't think you have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
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162DodgyLandings
163##	2017-11-10T17:32:34+00:00	
164Oh, shit, do you maintain an ancient J2EE app for a large retail bank whilst dreaming of Haskell? Sorry about that, that was just the first example I could think of; I could have said similar things about literally dozens of other examples. I've got many stories about two warring sets of business process consultants I had to work with once.
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166Haha, no. For the record I'm not a programmer and only vaguely know what J2EE actually is.
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168DodgyLandings
169##	2017-11-11T22:05:09+00:00	
170Really? They may not even have had the details previously
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172DodgyLandings
173##	2017-11-11T22:16:01+00:00	
174I still don't think it's something most would automatically check.
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176DodgyLandings
177##	2017-11-11T22:29:31+00:00	
178I'm not saying you shouldn't check - but as scams go, it's pretty up there if it lands at the right time. Condemning them for being stupid and saying its their own fault just makes you look like you're desperate to tell everyone how it would never ever happen to you.
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180We didn't have email correspondence with our solicitors, but I can't say I went and cross reference everything. Incidentally, the only time we did a bank transfer was for the deposit - everything was cheque.
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182DodgyLandings
183##	2017-11-12T13:14:10+00:00	
184They aren't not banned due to the Good Friday Agreement. They're not banned because the Good Friday Agreement gives jurisdiction to the NI government. They could ban it if they wanted, just Westminster hasn't got the power to do so.
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186DodgyLandings
187##	2017-11-12T16:07:28+00:00	
188Why are you putting so much effort into missing his point? I grew up when bomb threats and bombings were pretty day to day affairs, evacuations commonplace and public bins very rare.
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190It's appreciating that modern terrorism, while awful, is still a way off what it was like at the heart of the troubles and up to the peace process.
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192DodgyLandings
193##	2017-11-12T16:10:39+00:00	
194Check his post history. Obsessed and a little bit mad, I thnk.
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196DodgyLandings
197##	2017-11-14T14:07:23+00:00	
198It doesn't, because that's not how it works.
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200DodgyLandings
201##	2017-11-14T14:19:23+00:00	
202I'm not even THAT bothered by hunting (Not a fan, though) but having seen some of these videos I've considered going just to give some of these cunts a handful back.
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204Obviously it wouldnt be the right moral course of action..
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206DodgyLandings
207##	2017-11-14T19:01:03+00:00	
208The world is a marginally better place down as we lose a single cunt.
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210DodgyLandings
211##	2017-11-15T17:07:24+00:00	
212No it's not. At all. Especially when 'in front of you' means the item you're in charge of causing it.
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214DodgyLandings
215##	2017-11-15T17:07:10+00:00	
216What the fuck? Is this a troll or are you just that stupid and pathetic?
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218DodgyLandings
219##	2017-11-16T15:50:26+00:00	
220Well, it was nice to see a little bit of the information age anyway. Is this really what we've become? And some people lap this moron up.
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222DodgyLandings
223##	2017-11-16T21:29:55+00:00	
224Radio 4 is actually one thing I miss from driving a lot.
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226DodgyLandings
227##	2017-11-16T22:37:48+00:00	
228Haha, yes. And they always seem to be so engaging no matter what
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230DodgyLandings
231##	2017-11-18T10:07:42+00:00	
232Yes, this argument really winds me up. It's the classic 'Bloke in a pub' argument - moving from individual ICE's in every vehicle is still a huge step forward, even ignoring renewable and nuclear energy.
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234I still don't really like Musk though.
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236DodgyLandings
237##	2017-11-18T18:58:03+00:00	
2383 years if he behaved.
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240DodgyLandings
241##	2017-11-18T19:15:02+00:00	
242This is basically the overall answer. The population as a whole, including the government, is not science or research led. Ideas are not rigorously tested for results in pilot areas first and outcomes are measured to be primarily political tools.
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244DodgyLandings
245##	2017-11-18T19:25:19+00:00	
246Nor was it the wrong thing to do. He made a decision to defend his property - there's nothing whatsoever wrong with that.
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248DodgyLandings
249##	2017-11-18T19:24:07+00:00	
250Also ITT: People who haven't dealt with the Police recently. I called in a burglary in progress and the woman on the phone seemed more concerned about me proving beyond a doubt something was occurring before she could be arsed dispatching someone. 'The alarm has gone off and I can hear movement' got met with 'But have you actually seen anyone?'
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252DodgyLandings
253##	2017-11-18T19:26:39+00:00	
254I hope somebody steals all your world possessions.
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256DodgyLandings
257##	2017-11-18T19:33:16+00:00	
258The guy in the OP won, from what I recall. But you have fun with your insurance claim - guessing you haven't made many big ones and suffered the consequences....
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260DodgyLandings
261##	2017-11-18T19:32:34+00:00	
262I guarantee that is not universally the case. Many areas are WOEFULLY undermanned - frankly, many people would be terrified if they knew how few Police were around at times.
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264DodgyLandings
265##	2017-11-20T11:17:27+00:00	
266I think we should fund our NHS instead.
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268DodgyLandings
269##	2017-11-23T15:48:53+00:00	
270Can we just stop letting this subhuman out?
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272DodgyLandings
273##	2017-11-24T14:38:51+00:00	
274Single crews have been around for decades, though I do agree it's shit
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276DodgyLandings
277##	2017-11-26T20:20:34+00:00	
278No, the same legislation does not apply. That's not to say he's not breaking any laws - maybe the RSPCA could offer advice.
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280What did you do when you saw him? Not going to lie, I'd be discussing his upcoming facial reconstruction - what an absolute cunt.
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282DodgyLandings
283##	2017-11-27T08:48:51+00:00	
284It was a major incident with multiple fatalities. What do you expect?
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286DodgyLandings
287##	2017-11-27T08:51:19+00:00	
288Paywall. But as someone who's dabbled in business for the last few years I find the Tories every bit as anti business (Or, indeed, anti everyone who isn't rich). At least with Corbyn I'd be funding some public services
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290DodgyLandings
291##	2017-11-27T08:57:17+00:00	
292The problem is that sarcasm is notoriously hard to detect in text AND you're not saying anything that isn't said completely seriously in some circles. It's easier just to assume you're a mentalist or a troll which, as you're doing it deliberately, you basically are.
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294You're also not contributing anything useful to the discussion.
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296DodgyLandings
297##	2017-11-27T09:30:54+00:00	
298Attempts to go after the self employed via National Insurance, Dividend tax changes, IR35 rule changes etc. The latter in particular seems like a very clever way to give their friends in Capita more work, while shafting your average contractor.
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300They certainly aren't doing anything to encourage people to risk it and go it alone
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302DodgyLandings
303##	2017-11-27T19:42:01+00:00	
304Really? Because the fact he's literally a Prince is immaterial? You can dislike it, protest it, whatever but denying the actualities is very daft indeed.
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306DodgyLandings
307##	2017-11-27T19:52:48+00:00	
308Indeed - I don't really understand the point there. I get educating people about the whole thing but that doesn't mean the legal position is wrong.
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310I worry that Common Law is all a bit wooly and would lead to lots of complex legal arguments. A marriage is a marriage - signed and sealed, job done. You're either married or not and everyone is clear on that.
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312DodgyLandings
313##	2017-11-28T09:04:01+00:00	
314You can already do that if you wish. You need, I think, 2 others (Witnesses) and yourselves to get legally married. I've even heard of photographers being witnesses.
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316And if you're not doing the legal bit, you can literally do and say whatever the hell you want and where you want for your ceremony.
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318DodgyLandings
319##	2017-11-28T09:33:05+00:00	
320You're all desperate for a conspiracy while ignoring that, for much of the country, this is the news that they want.
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322DodgyLandings
323##	2017-11-30T15:45:53+00:00	
324Well, no, because I don't think you'd write that the peacock was virtue signalling. The meaning and connotations are different.
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326DodgyLandings
327##	2017-11-30T15:50:27+00:00	
328I think it's pretty clear what I'm talking about.
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330DodgyLandings
331##	2017-11-30T15:54:51+00:00	
332Wow, I see you've resorted to an ad-hominem fallacy and this now negates everything you've ever said and I win the argument.
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334DodgyLandings
335##	2017-11-30T15:54:06+00:00	
336I don't like your rhetoric.
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338DodgyLandings
339##	2017-11-30T15:56:07+00:00	
340I really didn't think I'd need to put out a disclaimer that I'm talking about reddit/online arguments/political debate rather than academic discussions.
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342DodgyLandings
343##	2017-11-30T18:10:14+00:00	
344Nah, I'm good thanks.
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346DodgyLandings
347##	2017-11-30T22:23:25+00:00	
348That's my arse being handed to me now is it? If I didn't want the relationship to be obvious I would have used another account to post.
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350DodgyLandings
351##	2017-12-03T19:41:12+00:00	
352The fuck is wrong with you?
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354DodgyLandings
355##	2017-12-04T07:16:07+00:00	
356Where do you get that use by is for retail use?
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358DodgyLandings
359##	2017-12-04T13:53:59+00:00	
360Five years is 36k...! I find it hard to believe it's ever better than renting
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362DodgyLandings
363##	2017-12-04T13:56:08+00:00	
364She appears to have an insanely simplistic view of property ownership and the advantages and disadvantages that come with it. Sounds like they did almost no research whatsoever before buying.
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366She also sounds downright immature. How many people renting can spend a year in New York anyway FFS?
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368DodgyLandings
369##	2017-12-04T20:04:17+00:00	
370Uh, what they did was beyond fucked up
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372DodgyLandings
373##	2017-12-04T20:14:16+00:00	
374I always said that Brexit will be the reverse of a Beatles concert. Over the next few years you'll find it harder and harder to find somebody who voted out.
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376DodgyLandings
377##	2017-12-05T20:00:56+00:00	
378My experience was identical. They even started coming round - they put a note through when the fucking living room didn't have a floor, let alone a TV - and yes, it was a blatant building site from outside.
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380I did the whole revocation of implied access just out of irritation. The fun but was refusing to promise on the phone I wasn't going to watch TV.
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382Obviously not everyone experiences the same, but they can be insanely aggressive.
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384DodgyLandings
385##	2017-12-06T18:27:19+00:00	
386And yet the Coroner tore a strip off the press for good reason.
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388DodgyLandings
389##	2017-12-06T18:36:48+00:00	
390So the coroner was wrong?
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392DodgyLandings
393##	2017-12-06T22:49:45+00:00	
394Uhm......nope.
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396DodgyLandings
397##	2017-12-06T22:53:42+00:00	
398Ah. That's not what you said... (and I wasn't being difficult, I forgot what the original claim was)
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400DodgyLandings
401##	2017-12-06T22:57:01+00:00	
402Read your first post again :)
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404DodgyLandings
405##	2017-12-06T23:01:32+00:00	
406Try some introspection some time. Your post said 350 million per year, which is in no way a 20 percent increase.
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408It's clear now you meant per week, as the original claim says, but I'd forgotten the specifics of the original.
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410DodgyLandings
411##	2017-12-06T23:06:38+00:00	
412I know you're a gimmick account, but now you're just being silly x
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414DodgyLandings
415##	2017-12-08T08:39:30+00:00	
416It's fucking tragic. For the most part he seems to be a decent politician, yet people insist on focusing on his religion (Despite the fact he doesn't) and spreading, literal, fake news.
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418And why Trump and the Americans have got a thing about him, fuck knows. Shit show all round.
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420DodgyLandings
421##	2017-12-08T13:30:34+00:00	
422Plus, what journey would be under the £30 maximum for contactless?
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424Eh? Probably the vast majority.
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426DodgyLandings
427##	2017-12-10T15:23:37+00:00	
428Merry Christmas! I won't be missing the nasty cunt
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430DodgyLandings
431##	2017-12-10T15:26:45+00:00	
432Really? On the jury were you? Or maybe you've been called to the bar and could share your wealth of knowledge?
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434Or maybe he was a rapist piece of shit and no amount of money could make it go away.
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436DodgyLandings
437##	2017-12-10T15:29:45+00:00	
438Not everyone dies equal. He was a rapist piece of shit and his timely demise is no loss to the world.
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440DodgyLandings
441##	2017-12-10T15:32:08+00:00	
442No, just a pathetic and overly sensitive way to look at things.
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444This is a public discussion forum. We are discussing the death of a nasty rapists - why are you shocked that we aren't all upset by the news? I have no moral imperative to pretend otherwise.
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446DodgyLandings
447##	2017-12-10T15:41:24+00:00	
448It's common decency for the average person. Some people are monsters and are better off dead. You think I'm going to give a fuck when a nasty, rapist piece of shit cops it?
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450DodgyLandings
451##	2017-12-10T15:44:45+00:00	
452Oh yes, a racist Trump supporter defending a nonce. Always seems to stack up somehow, doesn't it?
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454DodgyLandings
455##	2017-12-10T15:59:11+00:00	
456Well, maybe don't come here posting your unfounded, uneducated, unsubstantiated shite and you'd get a friendlier welcome.
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458If you've got some evidence that his conviction wasn't sound then present it, otherwise piss off.
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460DodgyLandings
461##	2017-12-10T16:00:59+00:00	
462And, as I say, thats a pathetic and overly sensitive way to look at it. What, seriously, are the odds an upset relation is going to be upset over our posts here?
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464It's not their fault he was a nasty can't, but it doesn't mean we have to tread on eggshells. How do you think his victims would feel about your revisionist, censored bullshit?
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466DodgyLandings
467##	2017-12-10T18:34:18+00:00	
468I've never ever been picked up in a 4WD taxi.
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470DodgyLandings
471##	2017-12-10T20:05:17+00:00	
472So why come and make an entire post about it, rather than graciously accepting that you were helped by somebody who subjected others to truly awful attacks?
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474DodgyLandings
475##	2017-12-11T13:56:47+00:00	
476The problem with this style of sarcasm (without an /s tag) is that there are PLENTY of people on this sub and in the real world that sincerely believe that.
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478I've heard a lot of people express that they couldn't give a fuck about what happens to the cunts and wankers in the City.
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480DodgyLandings
481##	2017-12-11T16:53:39+00:00	
482What makes you assume that? Most of my local schools declared their closure yesterday and many have already declared closure tomorrow.
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484DodgyLandings
485##	2017-12-11T17:21:49+00:00	
486Apart from the last bit of it not appearing which I admittedly didn't quite follow initially, my point is that my village is in the same boat and all the schools declared closure yesterday and not this morning.
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488DodgyLandings
489##	2017-12-11T17:40:39+00:00	
490What can is say, when I was at school it would always be announced in the morning whether the school was open or closed. You would have to phone in before walking to the bus stop (The internet wasnt as accessible as it is now, especially in the deep corners of Gloucestershire)
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492Aye, I know - I'm old too. But times have changed!
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494DodgyLandings
495##	2017-12-11T17:55:39+00:00	
496Well, I'm not sure how young you're assuming I am but Ask Jeeves hadn't even been invented when I started Secondary School!
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498It was all Acorn Archimedes until I was doing GCSE's - awful things, even then.
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500DodgyLandings
501##	2017-12-11T21:05:00+00:00	
502Don't be a pillock. I work in both places, it was carnage up here - several inches of snow, much if it now ice. Due to get to -7 overnight. As a rule, London weather is much much milder and also impacts far differently to those of us who have to use country lanes etc.
503
504DodgyLandings
505##	2017-12-11T22:14:32+00:00	
506Everyone says this, but really, moving house is a PITA no matter what and how often do most people actually move by choice?
507
508DodgyLandings
509##	2017-12-12T08:24:56+00:00	
510Fuck off you spammy cunts.
511
512DodgyLandings
513##	2017-12-12T08:27:52+00:00	
514It's a fucking joke. I'm dreading my kids school years because I take serious issue with the way in which they do business.
515
516Or, in other words, I'm the parent - I supply a suitable coat as deemed by me and the school can go fuck themselves if they think otherwise.
517
518DodgyLandings
519##	2017-12-12T09:28:44+00:00	
520I think the between lessons is a red herring - between breaks, lunch and pre and post school waiting I used to spend a considerable amount of time wandering about outside school. In fact, we were actively banned from being inside the school building during such times.
521
522DodgyLandings
523##	2017-12-12T09:38:00+00:00	
524Instead, now the poor kids don't have coats.
525
526DodgyLandings
527##	2017-12-12T09:42:42+00:00	
528I don't agree with it to be honest. I couldn't teach maths or some sciences to the standard I'd want to and I think that would be a huge disservice. I also think the social aspects of school are hugely important in the long term
529
530DodgyLandings
531##	2017-12-12T11:01:49+00:00	
532Headmistress of a school is a senior management position and they're paid as such. They're working, not providing charity
533
534DodgyLandings
535##	2017-12-12T12:21:24+00:00	
536Do you think they'll be able to compete at GCSE level based on that, though?
537
538DodgyLandings
539##	2017-12-12T15:37:13+00:00	
540Yes, but you've got to take into account the measures applied by institutions? Which is why I asked, though obviously your kids are still quite young, surely ifbthey want to pursue further education then they'll need a good spread of GCSEs?
541
542DodgyLandings
543##	2017-12-12T16:54:13+00:00	
544While you can question them socially, I don't think missing them out is advised. I guess I don't really understand your transition plan from home schooling to further education etc
545
546DodgyLandings
547##	2017-12-12T17:33:34+00:00	
548Fair enough, but what about the less interesting subjects? Of all the things I dislike about schools, I don't think the spread of subjects is negative. We all learn better about things that interest us, but it doesn't mean we can ignore the rest.
549
550Not trying to attack you, I'm sure your kids will be fine or better than fine
551
552DodgyLandings
553##	2017-12-13T08:12:39+00:00	
554Yep. Some are short as fuck and some of the extending ones are super hard work. It's okay if you can pull further forwards, but a lot of my local garages are very tight on space.
555
556Combined with not wanting to drag the thing over my paint I normally stick to the same side.
557
558DodgyLandings
559##	2017-12-13T16:54:58+00:00	
560I'm inclined to agree. While wildly unacceptable, it's not physically harmful. I doubt we have a huge over supply of surgical talent.
561
562Some serious compensation, suspension, fine and a suspended prison sentence should suffice.
563
564DodgyLandings
565##	2017-12-14T10:03:54+00:00	
566And banning a woman from wearing it is the very definition of actual repression.
567
568DodgyLandings
569##	2017-12-14T16:47:24+00:00	
570Well, that looks like an unbiased source. Oh, just look at your post history.
571
572DodgyLandings
573##	2017-12-14T18:53:02+00:00	
574Out of touch millionaire. Surely not.
575
576DodgyLandings
577##	2017-12-14T20:11:55+00:00	
578Honestly? I couldn't even open the article on the train.
579
580DodgyLandings
581##	2017-12-15T08:57:37+00:00	
582You're in the fold now. Might aswell hold up a post office and get yourself a Christmas bonus.
583
584DodgyLandings
585##	2017-12-15T19:42:22+00:00	
586Nowhere near on this level, but still a crown court job - had a very similar experience. Lack of disclosure, lack of transparency and being forced to jump through hoops to receive evidence which should have been offered up. There was also a provable lie about some records from the investigating officer.
587
588(No, I didn't follow it up - I was just happy to get the thing sorted and the lie wouldn't have affected the outcome, it just displayed what he was all about.)
589
590DodgyLandings
591##	2017-12-16T14:43:51+00:00	
592Not to be too cynical, but this reeks of 'sorry I got caught' rather than sorry I did it.
593
594DodgyLandings
595##	2017-12-16T18:33:29+00:00	
596Do go on...
597
598DodgyLandings
599##	2017-12-17T13:24:25+00:00	
600My heart bleeds for him.
601
602DodgyLandings
603##	2017-12-18T07:54:11+00:00	
604Do you sincerely, honestly, believe that the Police are going to come and investigate this problem?
605
606DodgyLandings
607##	2017-12-18T14:42:25+00:00	
608Yup - I make a habit of signing as few things as possible. It's amazing what people let through - NDA's, non competes, etc.
609
610DodgyLandings
611##	2017-12-18T22:29:09+00:00	
612https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTyOAsP4lI
613
614All the time, yes :)
615
616It's a funny one, though - I, personally, find it VERY hard to justify going near the things people associate with wealth. I'm in the top few percent of earners, apparently, (Though of course the gulf between us lot in the top few percent and the 0.1% etc is HUGE) but I guarantee you wouldn't guess to walk past our house.
617
618My conclusion is either that the earning statistics are wrong (Fairly unlikely) or people are buying things they can't afford, putting everything on credit or are living on the edge of a huge fall.
619
620I prefer to spend my money on life experiences or investments.
621
622DodgyLandings
623##	2017-12-18T22:48:15+00:00	
624Digital TV, Freeview and non-subscription Satellite* are all broadcast only technologies
625
626*Haven't used Sky for decades, so I'm excluding that because I heard you have to have the box plugged in now? If you don't then that's broadcast only to except for PPV
627
628DodgyLandings
629##	2017-12-18T22:50:54+00:00	
630Yep, that looks to be an informative, non-biased documentary...
631
632DodgyLandings
633##	2017-12-18T23:21:12+00:00	
634What on earth are you on about? What a bizarre, nonsensical rant. Outside of minimum wage, or close to min wage jobs nobody is interested in what the min wage is. It has no bearing whatsoever on pay grades and pay rises.
635
636Minimum wage protects the lowest tier of workers - that's all.
637
638DodgyLandings
639##	2017-12-18T23:36:30+00:00	
640No the minimum wage puts a base on what people should be paid, and works up from there. If there is no base wages are paid on the ability of the person, not on the connection to minimum wage.
641
642This makes so little sense I'm having a tough time comprehending your argument. If anything, removing minimum wage would therefore decrease wages.
643
644Either way, once you get out of Min Wage territory your wages are really not related to NMW at all.
645
646legally or not. Its a fiddle believe me.
647
648If we're including illegal conditions then why the hell are we even discussing NMW, a legal requirement?
649
650I have absolutely no idea what you're on about with the rest. You shouldn't be looking at absolute numbers, though - that's a 109% increase. Whether good or bad depends on a lot of other factors.
651
652DodgyLandings
653##	2017-12-18T23:55:14+00:00	
654Are you fuck.
655
656DodgyLandings
657##	2017-12-18T23:57:12+00:00	
658Absolutely nothing you write makes any sense whatsoever. You think everyone was being paid loads for entry level jobs pre '96? There's a reason it was introduced at 3.60.
659
660DodgyLandings
661##	2017-12-19T00:07:18+00:00	
662I don't believe you're an employer by any serious meaning of the word. And, if you are, I feel for your accountant.
663
664DodgyLandings
665##	2017-12-19T09:58:59+00:00	
666I dated a young Muslim girl briefly - a random Muslim guy at work cornered me and called me out for it. He didn't know her or her family, but was seriously upset at the idea.
667
668DodgyLandings
669##	2017-12-19T15:27:54+00:00	
670Colour me fucking shocked. Selfish, filthy cunts.
671
672DodgyLandings
673##	2017-12-19T16:56:21+00:00	
674Confusingly it says driver in the headline but the article doesn't seem to confirm that
675
676Either way, knowing the type of car and knowing the road - let's face it, you've got a car full of criminals doing insane speeds and they fucked up.
677
678I see the family are already pulling the 'Everyone makes mistakes card'. Funny, I don't know many people who accidentally got into a high speed pursuit while involved in the supply of drugs.
679
680DodgyLandings
681##	2017-12-19T18:31:55+00:00	
682Some good thinking time for him
683
684DodgyLandings
685##	2017-12-20T21:51:30+00:00	
686In the UK?
687
688DodgyLandings
689##	2017-12-20T21:53:10+00:00	
690Though he'd remain on licence forever. Long term, a life sentence is a whole different world
691
692DodgyLandings
693##	2017-12-21T18:27:15+00:00	
694I hope his Mrs is just using him for cash for hobbies while getting her rocks off with some 20-odd year old
695
696DodgyLandings
697##	2017-12-21T18:38:19+00:00	
698Well we aren't the US either, so why don't you go and fuck the fuck off?
699
700DodgyLandings
701##	2017-12-22T16:58:19+00:00	
702And fuck it right up for light aircraft overheard, great. Thanks. And not all drones are GPS reliant.
703
704DodgyLandings
705##	2017-12-22T19:47:09+00:00	
706He should be perma-banned if he doesn't pay.
707
708DodgyLandings
709##	2017-12-23T09:34:56+00:00	
710I was being a little facetious, but the thing with GPS is that the signal is very very weak so I'd expect spoofing equipment good enough to stop drones to have quite a decent radius.
711
712And VFR, maybe, but plenty of IFR aircraft heavily using GNSS now
713
714DodgyLandings
715##	2017-12-24T21:54:42+00:00	
716From someone who has done the 'Critically ill child over Christmas' thing, please pass my thanks to your wife
717
718DodgyLandings
719##	2017-12-26T08:36:34+00:00	
720I'm not an anti Royalist, but, c'mon, that's stretching it...
721
722DodgyLandings
723##	2017-12-26T08:44:53+00:00	
724I sincerely have no idea if you're serious or not, so, uh, well done...I think.
725
726DodgyLandings
727##	2017-12-27T08:57:24+00:00	
728Is that not illegal now?
729
730DodgyLandings
731##	2017-12-27T10:58:53+00:00	
732No SSL implementation either. Sketchy sketchy sketchy
733
734DodgyLandings
735##	2017-12-29T14:21:04+00:00	
736Nope. I've managed to go my entire adult life avoiding work between Christmas and New Year - fuck that.
737
738DodgyLandings
739##	2017-12-29T15:08:28+00:00	
740Fair POV, but for me I just love that solid 7 plus days off.
741
742DodgyLandings
743##	2017-12-30T08:29:48+00:00	
744Uhm, yes they are. It's literally a joke paper.
745
746DodgyLandings
747##	2017-12-30T10:50:07+00:00	
748Honestly, I know it's considered a form of racism by many, but I sincerely believe the only people who don't mind gypsies are those who haven't had to live near with them and deal with them.
749
750They're basically feral - awful people who produce awful children. They pride themselves on stepping outside the confines of society and then wonder why that society doesn't want them around.
751
752They take what isn't theres, cause nothing but trouble and being absolutely no benefit to those places they go.
753
754I'm sure I'm in for some hate on this, but I don't care. I've lived within walking distance of a semi-permnanent site, I've lived near pop-up sites and I've seen the mess and trouble they cause.
755
756I've also worked with education authorities and seen the insanity that surrounds trying to get these kids something resembling an education.
757
758DodgyLandings
759##	2017-12-30T12:07:33+00:00	
760Aw, well done you. At some point I think it's fair to categorise people based on how they choose to live their lives and identify themselves.
761
762DodgyLandings
763##	2017-12-30T14:04:16+00:00	
764The problem with this line of thinking is that your argument works to stifle conversation about anything. If this thread were about car thieves, or bank robbers and people were saying "I fucking hate thieves" would you be desperately trying to equate that with us hating on black people?
765
766Irish traveler gypsies seem to go out of their way to treat places like absolute shite. They leave a wake of destruction in their path almost every single time.
767
768DodgyLandings
769##	2017-12-30T14:08:22+00:00	
770And they need a slap, too, then.
771
772DodgyLandings
773##	2017-12-30T14:11:35+00:00	
774I suppose it gets tricky to draw the line - because, yes you're right. I used to work with a gypsy - except, more "ex-gypsy" I suppose. As you say, good bloke, worked hard and definitely wouldn't ever want to fight him. I think once you're "well integrated", you're not likely to be a traveler with any meaning of the word.
775
776I mean, on a very basic level - how do you even attempt to properly work with society if you're consistently considered No Fixed Abode. I'd love to know what percentage pay their proper taxes, for a start....
777
778DodgyLandings
779##	2017-12-30T19:10:37+00:00	
780Why not? They're Romani,
781
782You realise that, essentially, nobody here is discussing Romani gypsies don't you? This is Irish traveler talk. Not sure I've ever even met a Romani gypsy tbh.
783
784DodgyLandings
785##	2017-12-30T19:14:10+00:00	
786To be fair, I'm not sure that's true but it is a massive headache. I've got a close friend in the Police and he only has one serious "I thought I was going to be murdered" story and it involved guess who...
787
788DodgyLandings
789##	2017-12-30T19:17:05+00:00	
790Try again - I'm one of the biggest critics of Brits abroad and do my upmost to avoid them.
791
792DodgyLandings
793##	2017-12-30T19:42:51+00:00	
794Yes, but that's immaterial. When people discuss "gypsies" / "pikies" or whatever the vast vast majority have Irish Travelers in their mind. That's pretty much what this discussion has become.
795
796DodgyLandings
797##	2017-12-30T19:51:50+00:00	
798(imo it's pretty reasonable to Godwin when people are literally having a two minutes hate session about one of the main ethnic groups targeted in the Holocaust)
799
800Nope. Once again, people are (Deliberately?) conflating Roma and Irish Travelers. In the UK, the vast majority of people equate the word Gypsy (especially in a negative sense) and Pikey etc with Irish Travelers who were decidedly not targeted by the Nazis.
801
802DodgyLandings
803##	2017-12-30T19:55:48+00:00	
804Most of the posts in this thread aren't being specific about which "gypsies" they're talking about. If you're using a term that was invented to talk about Romani people and you haven't made it clear that you're not talking about the Romani, then I don't think its unreasonable to assume that they could be talking about Romani and not Irish travellers,
805
806It's unreasonable when it's not the accepted day to day usage of the word. Etymology means fuck all in a general conversation - you're right, people could and should be clearer but the fact is that most people equate Gypsy with Irish Traveler. Mention Gypsy and you'll get a "D'ya like dags" response.
807
808DodgyLandings
809##	2017-12-30T21:59:02+00:00	
810But I didn't. And traveller isn't a race.
811
812DodgyLandings
813##	2017-12-30T22:12:31+00:00	
814Their ethnicity is not a problem. I don't think or believe for a moment that they are born like it. The conjoined culture, lifestyle and values is the problem.
815
816DodgyLandings
817##	2017-12-30T22:31:05+00:00	
818I feel fine, thanks. Every traveller I've had the misfortune of dealing with has been a piece of shit and the last time resulted in criminal damage because I had the audacity to refuse to buy a stolen TV in a car park.
819
820Go and preach elsewhere, because you're barking up the wrong tree if you think I feel morally conflicted about them
821
822DodgyLandings
823##	2017-12-31T07:01:10+00:00	
824You think he was after Irish Travellers?
825
826DodgyLandings
827##	2018-01-01T09:18:14+00:00	
828And yet road deaths have declined!
829
830DodgyLandings
831##	2018-01-01T22:07:06+00:00	
832What the fuck is this shit?
833
834DodgyLandings
835##	2018-01-02T10:22:31+00:00	
836Well, that makes for a grim nursery rhyme.
837
838DodgyLandings
839##	2018-01-02T10:38:15+00:00	
840Haha, that's a bold move. To be honest, I didn't think it was a big deal but looks like Honey was used as part of an argument which is patronising as heck.
841
842DodgyLandings
843##	2018-01-02T18:09:51+00:00	
844Do what now?
845
846DodgyLandings
847##	2018-01-02T18:08:56+00:00	
848I may be totally misreading him, but to me it's deliberately antagonising and not jokey at all
849
850DodgyLandings
851##	2018-01-04T19:43:49+00:00	
852Because, for some bizarre reason, we've reached a point where it's somehow wrong to lock people up simply for the safety of those around them.
853
854He should've had a life sentence the piece of shit.
855
856DodgyLandings
857##	2018-01-04T19:48:54+00:00	
858but if it's held up by someone jumping on the track I don't see how the rail company are responsible.
859
860I'm not sure what point you're making here. If you order a TV from Curries but their warehouse gets broken into are you going to be happy receiving a phone call saying "Sorry mate - your TV got nicked. Wasn't our fault, so no refunds sorry."
861
862Last time I got delayed due to one under it was a 3.5hr delay with a huge knockback further up the chain - got half way, but ended up paying a taxi a huge amount to just get me back.
863
864DodgyLandings
865##	2018-01-04T19:54:47+00:00	
866Alright, fair point though many will abandon their journey due to delays.
867
868How about paying extra for a specific delivery service then - you've paid an extra £20 for next day delivery. It's delayed due to no fault of theirs, you still happy paying that £20. Fair play if you are, but I wouldn't be.
869
870DodgyLandings
871##	2018-01-05T11:23:49+00:00	
872Nope, just regularly assaulted and used as a bus service for social services issues.
873
874DodgyLandings
875##	2018-01-06T10:25:26+00:00	
876A mistake is forgetting your lunch, or misreading. This is being a cunt.
877
878DodgyLandings
879##	2018-01-11T19:26:17+00:00	
880I don't know how people think the courts work in this country. Do they forget it's a real person judging these cases?
881
882DodgyLandings
883##	2018-01-15T20:03:05+00:00	
884Piece of shit doesn't deserve to see the light of day ever again. Cunt.
885
886DodgyLandings
887##	2018-01-17T07:57:08+00:00	
888Go on then then, how? Because the relief stops at 40k
889
890DodgyLandings
891##	2018-01-17T13:39:41+00:00	
892Unless you happen to own the things they steal or damage. Or be the unfortunate soul that looks at them the wrong way or whatever.
893
894You might be a novelty account, but if you come close to believing this shit then you're a cunt.
895
896DodgyLandings
897##	2018-01-17T13:47:11+00:00	
898So you'd describe a building doing a spot of cash in hand as a rogue? You've constantly downgraded what you define to be acceptable during this whole thread.
899
900Accidental overpayment is hardly in the league of deliberate benefits fraud, either.
901
902DodgyLandings
903##	2018-01-18T14:04:30+00:00	
904Bingo!
905
906Left is the default, but by no means guaranted.
907
908DodgyLandings
909##	2018-01-18T16:07:48+00:00	
910I think I've got to start reading the "Submitted By" before wasting moments of my life reading this nonsense.
911
912DodgyLandings
913##	2018-01-18T16:12:31+00:00	
914Well, here's their website:
915
916https://www.cardsapp.com/
917
918They're using SSL, but the Cert is very generic with no company detail. There's also no company info or address on that website and the only contact is a very generic form.
919
920So for me, with critical private data - no thanks.
921
922DodgyLandings
923##	2018-01-20T10:57:18+00:00	
924So a bunch of people got together to create an unofficial project that they weren't asked to do, used a bunch of branding and trademarks and then are surprised and upset that the organisation got a little pissy and disinterested with it?
925
926That and the idea of running an enterprise on a volunteer led build of Ubuntu is fucking laughable.
927
928DodgyLandings
929##	2018-01-20T11:00:44+00:00	
930Who needs silly things like support and compatibility in a 1.2 million user enterprise?
931
932DodgyLandings
933##	2018-01-20T11:06:33+00:00	
934And I still don't know why - I suspect most on here value their relative privacy
935
936DodgyLandings
937##	2018-01-20T11:11:04+00:00	
938Doesn't make him wrong, though. Maybe he's like me and has extensive experience in designing and building architecture for enterprise IT solutions?
939
940DodgyLandings
941##	2018-01-20T14:16:19+00:00	
942Twice.
943
944DodgyLandings
945##	2018-01-22T10:12:59+00:00	
946What a total, irredeemable cunt.
947
948DodgyLandings
949##	2018-01-22T10:15:49+00:00	
950Quite.
951
952DodgyLandings
953##	2018-01-23T18:29:15+00:00	
954What an utter child
955
956DodgyLandings
957##	2018-01-23T18:28:16+00:00	
958I suspect your average member of the public is not hurling death threats at their MP's. I think my MP is a cunt but I also think those that threaten people in public office are cunts too.
959
960DodgyLandings
961##	2018-01-23T18:46:31+00:00	
962You didn't ask me any questions so no, probably not.
963
964DodgyLandings
965##	2018-01-23T19:09:06+00:00	
966I think I'll always struggle to fathom how utterly sub optimal some people are. I mean, let's face it, this is just a complete lack of intelligence and brainpower.
967
968DodgyLandings
969##	2018-01-23T19:44:46+00:00	
970Which of those covers you?
971
972DodgyLandings
973##	2018-01-24T11:06:54+00:00	
974I think people have really started to have their fill of being told they need to change to "accommodate".
975
976DodgyLandings
977##	2018-01-24T11:11:59+00:00	
978Lot of chatter about this on the radio earlier - almost every person at great pains to point out how much money it raises for charity and what a good cause it is etc.
979
980I thought we'd all agreed after Saville that "Does a lot of work for charity" is not a defence for being a cunt.
981
982DodgyLandings
983##	2018-01-24T13:29:15+00:00	
984Which year is the rebate for? Was it correction for this year or last year?
985
986DodgyLandings
987##	2018-01-24T13:35:47+00:00	
988Most people only have experience with the Yale sort. It really threw me when I moved into a house without one.
989
990DodgyLandings
991##	2018-01-24T13:34:07+00:00	
992So there's your problem, no. You'll need to check the SA documentation (There's an accompanying thing which goes through it in detail) but you're currently telling them you haven't paid any tax this year but have also had a tax refund - hence why they want it back.
993
994I'm presuming the refund was for the previous year, so I suspect you can ommit it. You need to double check.
995
996DodgyLandings
997##	2018-01-24T13:36:22+00:00	
998Opening an unlocked door is the very opposite of 'breaking' isn't it now...
999
1000You're coming across as proper mental.
1001
1002DodgyLandings
1003##	2018-01-24T13:43:31+00:00	
1004No they didn't.
1005
1006DodgyLandings
1007##	2018-01-24T13:44:31+00:00	
1008You should be able to just ring them and get factual data like that.
1009
1010Be wary of taking advice from them - I once had a query and got three very different answers from three of their people.
1011
1012DodgyLandings
1013##	2018-01-24T15:34:43+00:00	
1014I'd consider a women only business event where all the staff are naked butlers or something to be in similar bad taste.
1015
1016I don't expect senior female execs to treat business like a hen do any more than I expect males to act like they're on a seedy hen party.
1017
1018The major difference, however, being our societal history with men and women. It'd be very hard to hire a bunch of 'hunky' butlers or waiters without it being very clear whats going on - I.e., them moving into the grey area of borderline sex workers.
1019
1020On the other hand, it'd be very easy to go out to the market and get a load of female waitresses in nice dresses with absolutely no expectation of anything sexual.
1021
1022Morally, I have no qualms with a bunch of lads hiring a bunch of sex workers so long as everyone is consenting and understood. I do maintain it has no place in business, let alone charity work and especially charity work for kids.
1023
1024Doing the whole 'if the tables were turned' is disingenuous and silly because men and women are not socially equal and men have spent 99.99% of history ensuring that's the case.
1025
1026DodgyLandings
1027##	2018-01-24T15:39:06+00:00	
1028According to Radio 4, there was a page in the guide that instructed no groping. You ever been to an event where it's had to be made clear that you're not allowed to sexually assault the staff?
1029
1030You're trying way too hard to normalise this and it comes across very MRA.
1031
1032DodgyLandings
1033##	2018-01-24T15:58:06+00:00	
1034Your claim that men have more power is nonsense, women currently if we really have do a calculation have more power then men soceitally, their claims and issues are taken far more seriously than men's concerns or issues. Now I don't think this is relevant here as you should be consistent on a specific issue without some primitive flawed analysis of supposed power dynamics.
1035
1036Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahhahahaa.
1037
1038Thanks for posting - I'm out. Did you come here from an alternative universe?
1039
1040DodgyLandings
1041##	2018-01-24T16:13:40+00:00	
1042Exactly. Like, if you started at a new place of work and they said at the introduction "Right guys - we have a zero tolerance approach regarding snorting coke off hookers breasts in the office" you'd rather wonder why they had to say that.
1043
1044DodgyLandings
1045##	2018-01-24T16:18:59+00:00	
1046Fucking LOL.
1047
1048Source: A man. Are you people insane?
1049
1050DodgyLandings
1051##	2018-01-24T16:21:53+00:00	
1052The source is that I'm a man - no idea what you are. I did have a glance at your post history and it's exactly what I'd expect. The Finsbury Park attacker wasn't racist, being a white man isn't popular nowadays blah de blah
1053
1054DodgyLandings
1055##	2018-01-24T16:26:57+00:00	
1056Because I have absolutely no time or desire to get into a debate over your classic MRA bullshit. Anyone who sincerely believes that men haven't had the upper hand for the near entire history of our species is so far removed from reality that there's literally nothing I could type to even begin to change that.
1057
1058DodgyLandings
1059##	2018-01-24T16:33:44+00:00	
1060Yeah you could type a fact based correction
1061
1062I could. But debating how women have had the upper hand over the last few centuries despite not being allowed to do, well, most things with an account that's only been active a week and primarily posts stupid things just doesn't seem the way to go.
1063
1064DodgyLandings
1065##	2018-01-24T17:59:18+00:00	
1066Firstly, what /u/Rowdy_ferret said.
1067
1068Secondly, I didn't say this was on "the same level" - why it has to be a competition I don't know, but the point is that the charity side is utterly immaterial and does nothing to negate it.
1069
1070DodgyLandings
1071##	2018-01-24T18:00:56+00:00	
1072I don't think your history research revealed much. Just look at the Marchgirls strike
1073
1074DodgyLandings
1075##	2018-01-24T18:15:15+00:00	
1076And, as witnessed in this very thread, there are still those out there who either feel this is perfectly acceptable or simply refuse that it happens.
1077
1078DodgyLandings
1079##	2018-01-24T19:21:00+00:00	
1080Except they weren't.
1081
1082DodgyLandings
1083##	2018-01-24T19:36:39+00:00	
1084Indeed, that's where this whole "We don't have proof" thing falls down in this case. Everyone has said "Oh, I didn't see anything" but not a single person has expressed a robust defense of the dinner. Not a single person.
1085
1086Nope, instead, everyone who was there and is publicly completely and utterly shocked has sought to rapidly distance themselves from the entire thing while doing things like standing down from their post and closing the entire thing down.
1087
1088I mean, come on! If they seriously thought this FT girl was just making it up they'd be robustly defending their reputation - problem is, they all know that being outed as a full on liar down the line is worse. They know there may be other evidence lurking and they know full fucking well what they set up and what was going on.
1089
1090DodgyLandings
1091##	2018-01-24T21:21:50+00:00	
1092Waste of time. Probably something to do with college funding.
1093
1094You just reminded me I actually have one - I probably put it on my first ever CV.
1095
1096DodgyLandings
1097##	2018-01-24T21:27:43+00:00	
1098Rustlers Burgers - yes, they're wrong but they make an awesome lunch!
1099
1100DodgyLandings
1101##	2018-01-24T21:26:13+00:00	
1102Which others apart from maybe prisoners who are, somewhat by definition exiled from society?
1103
1104We don't allow kids because there has to be a cut off age unless you think every toddler should get a vote?
1105
1106DodgyLandings
1107##	2018-01-24T21:53:06+00:00	
1108Well, I guess I don't speak for all but which bit? What do you do and what do you hire for? Even for the most entry level of entry IT roles I'd hope for more than an ECDL.
1109
1110DodgyLandings
1111##	2018-01-24T21:55:12+00:00	
1112So literally everyone else here is wrong apart from you who has decided it's a great qualification?
1113
1114DodgyLandings
1115##	2018-01-24T21:54:13+00:00	
1116Bun always goes in the toaster. It's how god intended.
1117
1118DodgyLandings
1119##	2018-01-24T21:58:25+00:00	
1120Well, IT wise, I'm also in professional services (Consultant) and really couldn't ever see it being particularly valid.
1121
1122For your average minimum wage secretarial job or something, yeah I could see it giving you a very small small edge I suppose but I maintain most won't really know much about the qualification and those that do arent going to hugely respect it.
1123
1124As I say, I did the 'course' many years ago and it's properly basic.
1125
1126DodgyLandings
1127##	2018-01-24T22:00:06+00:00	
1128I just don't see the point in being dishonest. Yeah, it's probably better than literal white space on a CV but it's so so basic that it counts for almost nothing in the grand scheme.
1129
1130DodgyLandings
1131##	2018-01-27T08:08:23+00:00	
1132You know insurance isn't fucking magic?
1133
1134I think if Criminals felt less empowered to commit crime then the world would be a better place.
1135
1136DodgyLandings
1137##	2018-01-27T08:26:21+00:00	
1138And so you realise that, despite insurance, thefts can be expensive and devastating especially to small businesses?
1139
1140DodgyLandings
1141##	2018-01-27T08:30:40+00:00	
1142Now imagine a world where nobody confronted any sort of criminality.
1143
1144It's okay if you don't want to, but calling somebody out for preventing crime is pretty damn pathetic.
1145
1146DodgyLandings
1147##	2018-01-27T08:35:56+00:00	
1148Because that's the logical path to where you want to be. What crimes would you intervene for (I'm only kidding, we all know you're probably scared of your own shadow)
1149
1150DodgyLandings
1151##	2018-01-27T08:40:04+00:00	
1152I will thanks. You make sure you stay away from anything remotely dangerous, now.
1153
1154DodgyLandings
1155##	2018-01-27T10:13:44+00:00	
1156I think the big difference is that there's already a robust and clearly defined set of offences that the driver can be done for. Death by dangerous being a very serious offence indeed - so, really, what's there to discuss? They have the driver already so he'll probably go to prison.
1157
1158DodgyLandings
1159##	2018-01-27T10:15:11+00:00	
1160Indeed. I see little reason why his sentence shouldn't be double digit years.
1161
1162DodgyLandings
1163##	2018-01-27T19:34:31+00:00	
1164Heh, many years ago I was forced into a fight or flight situation by somebody with a criminal record longer than your arm. To give you some context, this guy is serving ~10 years for an unrelated crime now.
1165
1166Anyway, I robustly defended myself and then reported it. I promptly acquired a criminal conviction for myself after a lovely trip to Crown fucking Court. To say I look at the law, the Police and how one should act in defense in a very different way would be an understatement.
1167
1168The worst bit is that people don't generally believe it went down the way it did until I show them the CCTV and court transcripts. But nope, because I made the "wrong" call in that situation and, perhaps used too much force (Not that I feel I did) he walked away and I got nicked.
1169
1170Obviously he's in prison now, so there's that, but to this day I still don't understand how that went down.
1171
1172DodgyLandings
1173##	2018-01-28T13:50:38+00:00	
1174It offended me, but again, not like how it was meant to
1175
1176DodgyLandings
1177##	2018-01-28T18:43:09+00:00	
1178Well, yeah, that's clearly what they're going for but the point is fundamentally flawed. I mean, I'm not saying piracy is okay but it is no way the same as stealing a car - hence why they're totally separate crimes and punishment.
1179
1180I wouldn't blow up a train either.
1181
1182DodgyLandings
1183##	2018-01-28T19:31:37+00:00	
1184Could you name yours simply Fieldcraft 101
1185
1186DodgyLandings
1187##	2018-01-29T17:09:10+00:00	
1188It's a funny one really. The consumerist in me says it's something of a con, but they can't provide updates in perpetuity. In commercial IT, software and hardware providers provide clearly defined lifecycles - where terms like "Lifetime" are used, this should be provided in consumer electronics IMHO.
1189
1190Unfortunately that won't happen until the companies are bitten by legislation
1191
1192DodgyLandings
1193##	2018-01-29T17:19:19+00:00	
1194Not to mention that they're all making a decision that they in absolutely no way will want to do so. Do people think ANYBODY (Including the lawyers, and senior management) involved actually WANTS to take a case like this to court?
1195
1196DodgyLandings
1197##	2018-01-29T17:22:28+00:00	
1198I think it's unfair to declare the system broken. I generally agree with the idea of euthanasia, but I don't think it can be denied that there's a world of difference between turning off life support and actively killing somebody.
1199
1200The child is unlikely to suffer - the doctors will ensure that the death is as swift and painless as is physically possible.
1201
1202DodgyLandings
1203##	2018-01-30T15:13:15+00:00	
1204sfc /scannow
1205
1206DodgyLandings
1207##	2018-01-30T15:19:51+00:00	
1208And even that's stretching it really - I think putting 30+ year olds in the millennial category is getting a bit daft. Do they really think people who were born in the 80's are on the same page as somebody born in the year 2000?
1209
1210DodgyLandings
1211##	2018-02-02T13:55:32+00:00	
1212In stories like this I always wonder how long it is until he's sat in his cell thinking 'Hmm, wish I hadn't done that.'
1213
1214DodgyLandings
1215##	2018-02-02T13:57:08+00:00	
1216Attempt murder, 25yrs inside, job done. Cunts.
1217
1218DodgyLandings
1219##	2018-02-02T13:58:57+00:00	
1220As I always say regarding these websites: You aren't the customer, the trades are. It is in the companies interest merely to persuade trades to sign up and stay signed up. The only review site I'd ever recommend is Which.
1221
1222DodgyLandings
1223##	2018-02-02T20:47:17+00:00	
1224Indeed. They also identify clearly as Helimed and will be assisted and expedited by Air Traffic Control wherever possible.
1225
1226Obstructing them is an utter cunts trick and people should think seriously about whether they would utilise their assistance in a time of great need.
1227
1228DodgyLandings
1229##	2018-02-02T20:54:45+00:00	
1230Yep and makes perfect sense given their scarcity. Arrive, assist and then get yourself repositioned and mission ready ASAP.
1231
1232You're having a bad day if you need an air ambulance calling, you're having a bad year if it has to take you somewhere.
1233
1234DodgyLandings
1235##	2018-02-03T08:46:02+00:00	
1236Almost everyone will use the NHS at least once in their lives. The whole point of socialism is that we all pay in, knowing you may not get your contributions worth back. Do you hate all tax money that's spent on things you personally don't use, or are you just a typical American anti NHS poster?
1237
1238DodgyLandings
1239##	2018-02-03T09:48:02+00:00	
1240And you think that, in the end, that would be cheaper? Even once private companies are no longer to dial 999 for free when it all goes pear shaped (And yes, that's a thing)
1241
1242DodgyLandings
1243##	2018-02-03T10:15:45+00:00	
1244So who is going to scrape you off the road after an accident? You don't think our private providers are piggy backing off the NHS?
1245
1246DodgyLandings
1247##	2018-02-03T10:53:54+00:00	
1248Standard reply from the Private Healthcare crew. Current private healthcare in the UK bears absolutely no resemblance to how it would be if the NHS was not functional.
1249
1250DodgyLandings
1251##	2018-02-03T10:55:52+00:00	
1252Because NHS funding isn't ringfenced. You can ten million quid to HMRC and there's no guarantee or implication that a penny of it would go to the NHS.
1253
1254DodgyLandings
1255##	2018-02-03T11:40:08+00:00	
1256The same argument applies. I'm not anti taxation, but we have little to no control where our money goes as it is, let alone if I was to voluntarily pay extra.
1257
1258I'd gladly pay more for public services, but why would I hand over extra money to a government who is deliberately giving less and less to those things?
1259
1260DodgyLandings
1261##	2018-02-03T12:55:37+00:00	
1262I'm not so much missing your point as struggling to grasp it. On a personal level, I made a substantial donation to the NHS a few years ago after they kindly saved a life close to me. I trust the NHS to spend the money better than I trust the government to give it to them.
1263
1264I believe if it were properly ringfenced people would be much more open to a NIC rise. I suspect it's cynicism in the wider govenrmenf which is a wider blocker.
1265
1266DodgyLandings
1267##	2018-02-04T15:21:47+00:00	
1268Which is already coming to fruition as Russia continue their military campaigns and posturing while we have spent years letting our military power dwindle.
1269
1270Honestly, in a fight with any kind of 'peer' nation I think we are fucked when it comes to being able to project sufficient force.
1271
1272DodgyLandings
1273##	2018-02-05T16:14:26+00:00	
1274I know one of them is really B&Q
1275
1276People say this a lot to me because I love Screwfix but it's really not. They're both owned by Kingfisher and obviously share some stock etc, but in terms of service and range they're little alike.
1277
1278DodgyLandings
1279##	2018-02-08T11:04:26+00:00	
1280Yep, I knew a guy who was big into it. Was convinced he could "get stuff sorted", but was never able to turn up true on even the most mundane of promises.
1281
1282He was also exactly as you describe.
1283
1284DodgyLandings
1285##	2018-02-08T11:15:54+00:00	
1286Yes. His arms weren't trapped, he had control of them, as he was able to move it quite quickly when the strikes started, meaning he had control. With that arm he could of attacked the officer or pulled a weapon or any number of things.
1287
1288I wouldn't bother mate - the closest people like this have come to having to restrain or fight someone is watching it on TV. Anyone who has actually had to subdue somebody knows how hard it is to actually get somebody under control.
1289
1290DodgyLandings
1291##	2018-02-08T11:17:01+00:00	
1292Been in many knife fights have you?
1293
1294DodgyLandings
1295##	2018-02-09T16:31:58+00:00	
1296Same, and I honestly don't mean that in a "I'm too cool to like it" way. I could never decide whether I just didn't like it or if it was incessant impressions of "Computer says no" which made me want to drown things which did it.
1297
1298DodgyLandings
1299##	2018-02-09T16:34:02+00:00	
1300Well, Bernard Manning is a racist cunt.
1301
1302DodgyLandings
1303##	2018-02-09T16:40:52+00:00	
1304What do you mean? It's hardly like the Coroner and media are trying to protect them?
1305
1306DodgyLandings
1307##	2018-02-09T16:47:31+00:00	
1308Uhm, the following all recieve direct funding via council tax:
1309
1310Fire Service
1311
1312Police Service
1313
1314Street Cleaning
1315
1316Parks / Green Spaces / Maintenance etc (You may not actively use them, but I think we can all agree it's nice to have them around)
1317
1318Social Services (May not use them now, but who knows about the future)
1319
1320And I'm sure a whole bunch of other stuff. "Bins" indeed.
1321
1322DodgyLandings
1323##	2018-02-09T16:49:42+00:00	
1324Was that the documentary where he said somewhere looked like Bombay?
1325
1326DodgyLandings
1327##	2018-02-09T16:48:27+00:00	
1328His legend lives on.
1329
1330DodgyLandings
1331##	2018-02-09T16:50:52+00:00	
1332Urgh. The worst bit about that one is that the worst offenders were the very people she was mocking.
1333
1334DodgyLandings
1335##	2018-02-09T17:00:07+00:00	
1336To be fair, don't they even send you a letter with a pie chart which covers at least some of it? I actually don't mind the increase, so long as it coincides with an increase in actual spending.
1337
1338DodgyLandings
1339##	2018-02-09T17:29:19+00:00	
1340Yikes - well when did that happen! All but the newspaper and car finance. To be fair, I think the bed thing comes with the child - staying up I'm fine with, it's the persistent alarm clock where I struggle!
1341
1342DodgyLandings
1343##	2018-02-10T08:50:54+00:00	
1344Uhm, they were known as the Beatles colloquially and the media are reporting on that. I'm sure the Band don't love it, but it's the same as if my bank robbing gang called themselves The Kaiser Thief's.
1345
1346DodgyLandings
1347##	2018-02-10T08:52:35+00:00	
1348Well, she seems nice. Disappointed nobody intervened though.
1349
1350DodgyLandings
1351##	2018-02-10T08:54:21+00:00	
1352Yep, it's a well known fact that's been proven time and time again that money fixes all your problems.
1353
1354Oh, no wait....
1355
1356I mean, it's better to have money than not but you think he has no struggles?
1357
1358DodgyLandings
1359##	2018-02-10T08:56:48+00:00	
1360I'd do a considerable amount of planning to ensure I don't ever have to worry about day to day cash ever again. I'd sacrifice almost any of the lottery advantages for that - to just live my life as I do now but without worry.
1361
1362Realistically, I'd probably plough myself into projects that interest me - charity, house renovations and building, my hobbies etc.
1363
1364DodgyLandings
1365##	2018-02-10T09:31:18+00:00	
1366Christ you're a fucking knob. Do you actually have any kids, by the way?
1367
1368DodgyLandings
1369##	2018-02-10T22:11:35+00:00	
1370The whole thing sounds disgraceful. Scummy cunts.
1371
1372DodgyLandings
1373##	2018-02-12T13:42:35+00:00	
1374Well, they weren't private pilots for a start - they'll be commercial pilots.
1375
1376And there are many places with inhospitable crash zones - we fly over the sea all the time, for a start. We do take some of this into consideration - where to go, survivability after the crash etc but there's no real way to anticipate every eventuality or what a potential rescue may look like for every bit of flight.
1377
1378Wind is complex and high winds alone aren't always a problem. That said, I believe the weather did worsen rapidly and may have been a factor.
1379
1380DodgyLandings
1381##	2018-02-12T14:10:43+00:00	
1382OMG this is symptematic of just how socielty has deteriorated over the years, and it doesnt really matter that he's a cyclist or not, its just selfish thievery from someone in a trusted position that does it. maybe it's my age but i cant remember hearing stories of posties stealing the mail 'when i were a lad' - it's disgraceful.
1383
1384Yes, Bob - crime is a new invention and no postman before has had the enterprising idea to nick the post.
1385
1386DodgyLandings
1387##	2018-02-12T15:27:26+00:00	
1388IMHO, this is like saying MI5 could take over murder investigations. GCHQ may have the skills, but it's primarily a SIGINT organisation. Not to mention the somewhat complex issues of them potentially have access to information and technology that they wouldn't want to expose in court.
1389
1390Also, I doubt they have the "resources" given how much the modern world revolves around technology and digital information exchange.
1391
1392DodgyLandings
1393##	2018-02-13T09:07:42+00:00	
1394How does that work?
1395
1396DodgyLandings
1397##	2018-02-13T09:11:59+00:00	
1398Get a trade card. Then it's a handy autofactors that's open Late and on Sunday's!
1399
1400DodgyLandings
1401##	2018-02-13T09:10:31+00:00	
1402Hahaha. No.
1403
1404DodgyLandings
1405##	2018-02-13T09:40:47+00:00	
1406Technically in the trade, but they seem to vary on what they check. I'm sure you could, uh, persuade them ;)
1407
1408DodgyLandings
1409##	2018-02-13T09:44:00+00:00	
1410No you don't. It's at the Councils Discretion and many are nowhere near that generous. Even when my 'second' (at the time) house was uninhabitable I only got a 6 month waiver. After two years it goes to 150%.
1411
1412And this is where I start to get pissed off with people keep bleating on about tax scams.
1413
1414DodgyLandings
1415##	2018-02-13T10:21:39+00:00	
1416Yep, love my Halfords Tools. For heavy, but ultimately DIY use they're as good as Snap On etc in my opinion. I broke a huge Snap On breaker bar, but I've yet to break my Halfords one
1417
1418DodgyLandings
1419##	2018-02-13T15:09:42+00:00	
1420So, taking advantage of a government incentive isn't exactly 'avoiding paying tax' in any meaningful sense.
1421
1422Nor, realistically, is it often going to make good business / financial sense to deliberately leave a property empty for two years just to renovate it. I mean you save, what, 12% at the absolute maximum?
1423
1424DodgyLandings
1425##	2018-02-13T16:13:49+00:00	
1426It's not a 15% saving, it's 12%.
1427
1428And 200k plus is a staggeringly huge renovation. You'll struggle to make those numbers back when you sell and, if it's to rent, again - you'd be better off getting it sorted and on the market.
1429
1430I just find it very hard to believe that this is a real issue - people holding on to empty properties in order to save 12% on a renovation.
1431
1432DodgyLandings
1433##	2018-02-13T21:53:49+00:00	
14348 years for a 42 year old piece of shit who will never learn his lesson. We are pathetic. Discharging a firearm, in public, out of anger - should be ten minimum for just having the fucking thing.
1435
1436DodgyLandings
1437##	2018-02-13T22:06:21+00:00	
1438I wonder if he had a pre prepared note. Y'know, something along the lines of 'We tried to assassinate you, but you weren't home'
1439
1440DodgyLandings
1441##	2018-02-17T09:39:58+00:00	
1442What a load of absolute crap. Where do you live and have you actually visited the North? I got a decent sized house in a lovely village with almost nil crime for less than 200k
1443
1444DodgyLandings
1445##	2018-02-17T09:38:33+00:00	
1446Right? Isnt Dublin renowned for being astonishingly expensive...?
1447
1448DodgyLandings
1449##	2018-02-17T11:59:13+00:00	
1450So this argument really fucks me off. It's not censorship to judge people and papers for what they write. It's not censorship to say 'I don't wish for my company to be associated with that content'. It's not censorship to call people out, to comment, to argue and to protest.
1451
1452The concept of freedom of speech does not mean you can say what you like with impunity and without fear of repercussion. It means it's not illegal to say it and you won't be arrested for it.
1453
1454I don't think the Daily Mail should be banned - but I do think everyone should stop buying it. Is it Censorship that The Sun is hated and not stocked by many Liverpool shops? No, it's a consequence of them being cunts.
1455
1456DodgyLandings
1457##	2018-02-17T12:01:56+00:00	
1458Sorry, I hate G4S as much as the next person but this is bollocks. We've always had a need for private security - if it wasn't outsourced it would be NHS Security Staff. We aren't going to have Police officers operating car park barriers.
1459
1460DodgyLandings
1461##	2018-02-17T14:42:18+00:00	
1462Mental - felt it here in the Midlands. This is my third now, somehow! Didn't think it was an Earthquake though - next door are often doing construction type DIY and I honestly thought they must have dropped something stupidly heavy. Was sat in my office and the whole floor moved.
1463
1464DodgyLandings
1465##	2018-02-17T18:40:03+00:00	
1466They're not thinking. They're cunts.
1467
1468DodgyLandings
1469##	2018-02-17T18:41:22+00:00	
1470Birds of a feather, mate.
1471
1472DodgyLandings
1473##	2018-02-18T08:59:29+00:00	
1474My man!
1475
1476DodgyLandings
1477##	2018-02-18T15:01:43+00:00	
1478Unfortunately, was that statement not proved to be true in Rotheram?
1479
1480DodgyLandings
1481##	2018-02-18T17:23:53+00:00	
1482Banning doesn't feel right, but I'd like to know the website from looking at the title. TBH, though, I'd like that for a lot more than the mail.
1483
1484DodgyLandings
1485##	2018-02-18T17:32:00+00:00	
1486I love KFCs food, but as a business they're diabolically shit. Before this, my local ran out of chicken - you're a fucking chicken shop, it's literally your USP and you run out of fucking chicken? How often have you known McDonalds run out of burgers?
1487
1488And that's before the fact that instead of ordering they may aswell just call it a lucky dip, because any order more complex than '3 piece chicken meal' is that anyway.
1489
1490Oh, and most of the stores luck run down to fuck with questionable hygiene. Again. McDonalds, for all their faults, know how to operate a franchise. No idea how they beast their franchisees but it's rare a McD's is anything but clean, tidy and modern.
1491
1492DodgyLandings
1493##	2018-02-18T18:26:52+00:00	
1494We need to criminalise these absolute cunts. I struggle to fathom how close to the bottom of the pond you have to be to behave like that.
1495
1496DodgyLandings
1497##	2018-02-18T18:54:57+00:00	
1498I include yelling 'move your van' and putting shitty notes on Ambulances as deliberately obstructing/interrupting the emergency services during the performance of their legal duties.
1499
1500DodgyLandings
1501##	2018-02-18T19:00:05+00:00	
1502You can add the word malicious if it makes you feel better? I'm not trying to write an entire piece of legislation, but if I was driving that ambulance I'd be doing a solid walk round on finding that note, wondering what else has been done.
1503
1504DodgyLandings
1505##	2018-02-18T19:14:25+00:00	
1506Well, for one, I have so go fuck yourself. And two, this crew clearly weren't happy about it.
1507
1508DodgyLandings
1509##	2018-02-18T19:31:07+00:00	
1510Really? Walking out and kicking off to somebody on a live scene isn't going to cause any disturbance or hinder them in any way? They're human beings, not robots.
1511
1512If you did it to a Police officer you'd be told to fuck off or be arrested. Ambulance crews don't have that right, so they should at least know that they're fully legally protected in such situations and the law and their service should stand behind them in taking firm action against such behaviour.
1513
1514DodgyLandings
1515##	2018-02-18T22:17:00+00:00	
1516It's almost like what I can imagine happening if we stop punishing anti social behaviour, avoid sending people to prison at almost all costs and strip the Police force to it's bare bones.
1517
1518And yet, as you say, woe betide the poor cunt who finally snaps and decides to batter one to the little shits making his life a living hell.
1519
1520DodgyLandings
1521##	2018-02-18T22:24:24+00:00	
1522Nope, genuinely. We have supermarket bananas all the time.
1523
1524DodgyLandings
1525##	2018-02-18T22:26:18+00:00	
1526What? No. Not in the slightest.
1527
1528DodgyLandings
1529##	2018-02-19T07:44:53+00:00	
1530It sounds like by complain you mean posted in Facebook?
1531
1532As above, there's almost no way that's an emergency ambulance it's that routine + smoking.
1533
1534DodgyLandings
1535##	2018-02-19T13:24:05+00:00	
1536I suppose it's one of semantics. The loan itself doesn't cause any problems for your mortgage, any more than say paying into a pension or having a company car does. But they will all impact the affordability test because you're taking home less because of it.
1537
1538Whereas having a large normal loan could significantly impact on your mortgage application, even if your take home is higher.
1539
1540DodgyLandings
1541##	2018-02-19T16:04:45+00:00	
1542If lenders do not take into account student loan payments, when considering an applicants ability to pay, then are they responsible lenders? Surely someone earning £40k with no debt can afford a larger mortgage, or obtain a better rate, than someone earning £40k, paying around £1,700 per year in loan repayments
1543
1544They can, and that will be taken into account. The difference is that it will considered purely on a "This person has £[x] after tax and deductions, they can afford £[y]". On the other hand, somebody with a £30k loan will be looked at more cautiously - what was the loan for, when was it taken, when is it paid off etc. Take out a £30k loan or have £30k in Credit Card debt and you may struggle, even if the numbers stack up the same.
1545
1546DodgyLandings
1547##	2018-02-19T16:43:55+00:00	
1548Pair of worthless, pathetic cunts. They have no place in this world - six WEEKS, six fucking WEEKS. At that point a baby is absolutely 100%, completely and utterly dependent on you for every part of its survival.
1549
1550Absolute filth, I hope they never see freedom again.
1551
1552DodgyLandings
1553##	2018-02-19T17:24:58+00:00	
1554I recommend tracking down a local accountant to help you. Only problem is that they'll charge, so depending on how much it is, this might be one to chalk up to experience.
1555
1556HMRC are not trustworthy - they will tell you what they WANT to be the law, not necessarily the law itself.
1557
1558DodgyLandings
1559##	2018-02-20T12:17:59+00:00	
1560Nowhere near on par with this, but many years ago I sailed straight over a large "mini" roundabout (I dunno how to describe it, it was technically a mini roundabout but it was raised up) at about 60-70mph. It shook me up enough that I drove back to see how I'd missed it - no signs and no road markings were the answer. It was for a brand new estate, built off a national speed limit road and I guess they just hadn't done it yet.
1561
1562It scared the fucking shit out of me.
1563
1564DodgyLandings
1565##	2018-02-20T17:23:39+00:00	
1566He's beyond lucky that they didn't do that here. It doesn't say whether the officers who caught him were AFO's or not and it doesn't really detail the arrest but they either had a feeling or were lucky themselves, really.
1567
1568I don't think he would have fared so well in London.
1569
1570DodgyLandings
1571##	2018-02-21T07:46:27+00:00	
1572Good question. /u/illiviiro what say you?
1573
1574DodgyLandings
1575##	2018-02-21T10:06:07+00:00	
1576Sounds like a crap garage - there are lots of them. As above, just go elsewhere.
1577
1578DodgyLandings
1579##	2018-02-21T14:05:28+00:00	
1580That's me, I'm the one who read the original article. What I specifically said to you, was:
1581
1582I include yelling 'move your van'
1583
1584Apparently the Police, prosecution and magistrate agreed with me.
1585
1586DodgyLandings
1587##	2018-02-21T14:12:30+00:00	
1588I'm assuming it wasn't just the one line, no, I'd rather hope that was clear but as we've already established...
1589
1590Quote from the neighbour:
1591
1592'She was shouting her mouth off, and telling them to f***ing move and shouting other abusive words.'
1593
1594DodgyLandings
1595##	2018-02-21T17:15:18+00:00	
1596What really frustrates me about this newspaper article is the implied lack of care by the observers. It basically implies that they watched it roll out knowing what was going on and just went for coffee instead - rather than, y'know, watching a couple of 'low level' threats get into a vehicle.
1597
1598DodgyLandings
1599##	2018-02-22T09:40:52+00:00	
1600I said that they only want us in the united kingdom when it suits them
1601
1602By, "they", I hope you're considering the considerable percentage of NI natives that also want to remain part of the UK.
1603
1604DodgyLandings
1605##	2018-02-22T15:10:29+00:00	
1606Schools can be weird fascist over shit like this
1607
1608DodgyLandings
1609##	2018-02-23T07:36:37+00:00	
1610Remove their right to implied access and ignore their crappy letters
1611
1612DodgyLandings
1613##	2018-02-23T22:13:12+00:00	
1614You sound like a bitter, entitled, self centered misogynistic cunt. Consider that next time you're struggling to make friends.
1615
1616DodgyLandings
1617##	2018-02-23T22:40:42+00:00	
1618Well, I do okay. Happily married and I don't have to post on Reddit about my lack of friends.
1619
1620DodgyLandings
1621##	2018-02-23T22:46:48+00:00	
1622Sorry, I just assumed somebody with such a horrendous personality would find it difficult to meet people who could stand them.
1623
1624My mistake.
1625
1626Why would you post if it wasn't because you were a bitter, lonely, wretched individual?
1627
1628DodgyLandings
1629##	2018-02-24T09:26:21+00:00	
1630Or not.
1631
1632DodgyLandings
1633##	2018-02-24T14:36:34+00:00	
1634Nobody is forgetting.
1635
1636DodgyLandings
1637##	2018-02-26T17:27:36+00:00	
1638It is not legal to discriminate against people for being in receipt of benefits
1639
1640Is it not? Genuine question, are they a protected group alone? Even this case is on the basis of indirect sexual discrimination.
1641
1642DodgyLandings
1643##	2018-02-26T18:15:04+00:00	
1644Uhm, no. By that logic I can come and live with you.
1645
1646DodgyLandings
1647##	2018-02-26T18:19:53+00:00	
1648The legal obligation you're discussing doesn't exist.
1649
1650DodgyLandings
1651##	2018-02-26T20:45:03+00:00	
1652Are they wet, though?
1653
1654DodgyLandings
1655##	2018-02-26T21:38:08+00:00	
1656I broadly agree, but when you're dealing with an ongoing medical issue it's hard to judge. There's a LOT of pressure to avoid A and E nowadays, notwithstanding that it's usually a cesspit. You don't want to be that parent that's dialing the 9's every time and a lot of things become normalised. I'm pretty ashamed to say we fell for it in the same way and it was a community nurse we had asked to pop in who did dial 999, resulting in a Blue Light run and a week in ICU :(
1657
1658DodgyLandings
1659##	2018-02-26T21:44:21+00:00	
1660I think the harm comes from ignorance, from a lack of critical thinking, from dismissing evidence. It may be subtle, but it's there. An anti science sentiment is growing and it's fucking ridiculous.
1661
1662DodgyLandings
1663##	2018-02-27T20:46:01+00:00	
1664Myth.
1665
1666DodgyLandings
1667##	2018-02-28T12:13:11+00:00	
1668Mythbusters already did:
1669
1670https://mythresults.com/episode42
1671
1672By the time you're at the point where the steel toecap is itself causing damage you're already going to be royally fucked without it. In addition, a car driving over your foot is actually easily within what a decent steelie would protect you from.
1673
1674DodgyLandings
1675##	2018-02-28T13:01:15+00:00	
1676It's all shite.
1677
1678DodgyLandings
1679##	2018-02-28T14:15:58+00:00	
1680I really fucking hate religion when it comes to shit like this. Fucking cults.
1681
1682DodgyLandings
1683##	2018-02-28T14:22:31+00:00	
1684It's things like that which do give me hope for the future. Humans aren't automatons and experience does matter to us. Maybe not when buying a can of beans or a cable, sure, but for bigger purchases people do like a peruse.
1685
1686DodgyLandings
1687##	2018-03-01T10:19:37+00:00	
1688Agreed. It's very revisionist - that time was actually not a bad place to be at all
1689
1690DodgyLandings
1691##	2018-03-01T12:26:33+00:00	
1692And the financial crisis at the end was global!
1693
1694DodgyLandings
1695##	2018-03-02T10:47:11+00:00	
1696Religious freedom shouldn't involve being given priority and advantages to other people.
1697
1698DodgyLandings
1699##	2018-03-02T10:46:01+00:00	
1700I find this stuff so fucking dull. As a country we have extremes of weather a few times a year - it's hard to predict and expensive to cater for. It's such an easy target, as if no other country anywhere struggles with their own weather extemes.
1701
1702DodgyLandings
1703##	2018-03-02T15:24:27+00:00	
1704Hehe, used to fucking love that place.
1705
1706DodgyLandings
1707##	2018-03-02T15:49:57+00:00	
1708One of my proudest moments was getting featured in their highlighted quotes thing. And now I feel old.
1709
1710DodgyLandings
1711##	2018-03-03T08:32:38+00:00	
1712Yep. Exactly what I did with mine - no drama at all, though I'm lucky our boiler is near the kitchen
1713
1714DodgyLandings
1715##	2018-03-03T10:35:41+00:00	
1716What is it with Reddit and answering with so much authority while being utterly wrong.
1717
1718DodgyLandings
1719##	2018-03-03T19:43:56+00:00	
1720I find it very hard to believe they'd be starting at manslaughter for that, though.
1721
1722DodgyLandings
1723##	2018-03-03T19:54:15+00:00	
1724Not a lawyer, but transferred malice I'd say. I think it could be very strongly argued in court that no reasonable person could expect to cause an explosion without a very high risk of death or very serious injury.
1725
1726The risk, I suppose, is that murder may be harder to prove in court but manslaughter seems to be a relatively low charge with little to no room for movement or 'plea bargaining'. (I know we don't have this as such, but a defendant can offer to plead guilty to a lesser charge and CPS will often accept to avoid a trial)
1727
1728DodgyLandings
1729##	2018-03-03T20:04:01+00:00	
1730Well, in a fashion. The guidelines for murder are a lot harsher than manslaughter - I believe the starting point is life imprisonment (i.e, life on license) wheras I think that's quite unusual for manslaughter.
1731
1732And, as I say, it leaves them no room to bargain down.
1733
1734It'll all come out in the wash I'm sure, but personally, I suspect they were doing something stupid and illegal that in itself wasn't meant to cause substantial harm.
1735
1736DodgyLandings
1737##	2018-03-03T20:19:31+00:00	
1738What? Did you even watch the Inbetweeners - it's literally the fucking opposite of that. They're in some little bland no name town, the definition of suburbia.
1739
1740DodgyLandings
1741##	2018-03-03T20:36:41+00:00	
1742Yes, fucking terrible. Just look at the RDA's!!
1743
1744DodgyLandings
1745##	2018-03-03T21:17:40+00:00	
1746I didn't say it'd kill you! But they are really quite unhealthy in pretty much every way
1747
1748DodgyLandings
1749##	2018-03-03T21:25:40+00:00	
1750In what world, exactly?
1751
1752DodgyLandings
1753##	2018-03-03T21:30:53+00:00	
1754Thanks for clarifying. I would have thought the intent could be shown merely by constructing the bomb in the first place? Assuming the bomb was illegal and for purposes of criminal intent?
1755
1756DodgyLandings
1757##	2018-03-04T08:25:31+00:00	
1758As opposed to where? Every single MP could be PM
1759
1760DodgyLandings
1761##	2018-03-04T08:31:01+00:00	
1762What a splendidly naive and simplistic view of the world you hold.
1763
1764You think there'd be no impact to operations if the criminals had a list of specific crimes that undercover people could commit?
1765
1766DodgyLandings
1767##	2018-03-04T08:33:17+00:00	
1768And yet plenty of people do.
1769
1770DodgyLandings
1771##	2018-03-04T08:34:25+00:00	
1772It's about freedom and security and is a wonderfully meaningless phrase unless you want to live with literally no laws, no Police and no protection from anything ever.
1773
1774DodgyLandings
1775##	2018-03-04T08:38:00+00:00	
1776And what do you think us more suburban kids had to do, exactly? We played in the street with our neighbours, just like you probably did.
1777
1778DodgyLandings
1779##	2018-03-04T08:43:26+00:00	
1780You think MI5 is a criminal organisation now?
1781
1782DodgyLandings
1783##	2018-03-04T09:27:50+00:00	
1784Do you think it's horrendous that Ambulances can run red lights?
1785
1786DodgyLandings
1787##	2018-03-04T09:37:41+00:00	
1788Agreed. There's almost no oversight into how these things are run, either.
1789
1790DodgyLandings
1791##	2018-03-04T09:42:11+00:00	
1792Ah, this must be the decentralised small government thing they told us about.
1793
1794DodgyLandings
1795##	2018-03-04T16:21:09+00:00	
1796You're outright wrong on that last point, and the major difference with MI5 is one of transparency which is for such fucking obvious reasons that I'm struggling to comprehend how you're struggling.
1797
1798DodgyLandings
1799##	2018-03-04T16:41:15+00:00	
1800They are not above the law - they are still operating within the framework of our Government and Judicial system. In certain cases they'll be given lawful orders to break the normal laws of operation - ranging from fairly mild crimes upwards.
1801
1802What, exactly, are you looking for? Nobody can produce an explicit list of can and can'ts because context is literally everything. It's easy to say "murder is never acceptable" while pretending that our security services aren't playing in very high stakes games. I'm not sure what your obsession with TV shows and movies is - you think MI5 and MI6 aren't working hard to infiltrate some serious organisations around the world?
1803
1804Remember this shit: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/07/sas-mi6-released-libya-rebels
1805
1806You think those boys were all operating under standard ROE and the legal system? You think there aren't people sat, right now, in ISIS and similar organisations?
1807
1808DodgyLandings
1809##	2018-03-04T19:38:44+00:00	
1810How much are you talking, because double glazing is an absolute rip off. You need a good locally recommended non-sales guy if you can find one.
1811
1812Either way, at this point I'd be buying based on which company is less sketchy. Truth is, you aren't likely to have much luck claiming on some 10+ year guarantee and, as the other poster says, the difference will be minimal. Check their work and use the one you trust the most - ideally one where it's a guy who actually fits windows who comes out. Any building company with a sales team is to be avoided IMHO.
1813
1814DodgyLandings
1815##	2018-03-05T10:49:41+00:00	
1816there is zero difference in the quality of foodstuffs between the two nations.
1817
1818Many of your food standards, especially in meat, wouldn't be legal over here for a start.
1819
1820DodgyLandings
1821##	2018-03-05T11:00:47+00:00	
1822Chlorinated Chicken for a start - USA imports are banned in the EU
1823
1824(Edit, to be fair, the chlorine itself doesn't seem to be a health issue - the general concern is more around whether it allows crap standards prior to dipping which I rather suspect it does)
1825
1826DodgyLandings
1827##	2018-03-05T11:33:49+00:00	
1828but am unaware of any discrepancy between the us and uk in terms of actual food safety/quality regulation.
1829
1830Despite the fact I already posted one example?
1831
1832DodgyLandings
1833##	2018-03-05T11:48:04+00:00	
1834I'm not getting into an argument about the specific legislation - you keep enforcing the idea that everything is equatable despite being demonstrably untrue.
1835
1836DodgyLandings
1837##	2018-03-05T12:35:35+00:00	
1838Haha, you edited your comment. How pathetic - you're a professional victim.
1839
1840DodgyLandings
1841##	2018-03-05T12:50:59+00:00	
1842What are you going, then?
1843
1844DodgyLandings
1845##	2018-03-05T17:33:04+00:00	
1846GPS alone has no way of knowing which direction your facing - once you're moving, the receiver can then at least give you instructions relative to your direction of travel.
1847
1848Ultimately, the compass instructions are the only real way to give any kind of standing start navigation.
1849
1850In theory, some phones do have built in compasses and I guess it could utilise that to figure out which way the phone is facing but there are so many variables and they're generally shit.
1851
1852Anyway, I remember when a GPS device just gave you raw Lat/Long co-ordinates and you had to sort the rest yourself so top ya whinging.
1853
1854DodgyLandings
1855##	2018-03-07T19:29:32+00:00	
1856Holy shit, I saw this on Facebook and assumed the joke was the fake headline. As in, somebody thought it'd be good satire.
1857
1858Fuck me.
1859
1860DodgyLandings
1861##	2018-03-07T19:35:58+00:00	
1862He'd just throw it back.
1863
1864DodgyLandings
1865##	2018-03-07T19:34:35+00:00	
1866I'm a huge remainer and still shocked the vote happened, but I'm passed worrying or caring now. What happens will happen around me and I'll adapt the best I can
1867
1868DodgyLandings
1869##	2018-03-07T19:41:14+00:00	
1870How many police officers do you think would exist if the role was restricted to people who can take down huge rugby players?
1871
1872To be honest, this highlights something that fucks me off full stop about people criticising the Police. Almost any person can put up in an insane fight if they really really want to - add drink and drugs to the mix and it can be exceptionally hard to contain even a relatively small and unfit person.
1873
1874Even somebody huge and strong would struggle with this guy in this position.
1875
1876DodgyLandings
1877##	2018-03-11T11:02:49+00:00	
1878Always thought the food was bad
1879
1880DodgyLandings
1881##	2018-03-11T21:32:38+00:00	
1882Or profit. Or turnover. Or, well, fucking anything really.
1883
1884DodgyLandings
1885##	2018-03-11T21:36:47+00:00	
1886Always worth waiting for the trial result before dropping the bomb, eh!
1887
1888DodgyLandings
1889##	2018-03-11T21:41:00+00:00	
1890Thermalite probably, but I bet it came sharp
1891
1892DodgyLandings
1893##	2018-03-11T21:59:36+00:00	
1894Except without Nero there's no saying that tax would even have existed so it's just as disingenuous to say it's nothing to do with them.
1895
1896DodgyLandings
1897##	2018-03-12T13:29:52+00:00	
1898It's not odd, our justice system is almost always concurrent sentencing
1899
1900DodgyLandings
1901##	2018-03-12T13:28:20+00:00	
1902Contact the non emergency number and report this as the crime it is.
1903
1904DodgyLandings
1905##	2018-03-12T14:37:18+00:00	
1906There's no requirement to declare anything.
1907
1908DodgyLandings
1909##	2018-03-12T17:19:12+00:00	
1910Hate to say, but I felt May came accross well there. But I'm still not really sure what can happen next.
1911
1912DodgyLandings
1913##	2018-03-12T18:48:52+00:00	
1914Yep, that sounds like the Daily Mail interpretation.
1915
1916DodgyLandings
1917##	2018-03-12T19:52:55+00:00	
1918Ex-company director, 58, who has never even had a parking ticket must sign sex offender's register for putting his arm around female friend and kissing her shoulder
1919
1920Becomes....
1921
1922Freeman, who has never even had a parking ticket, then kissed the startled woman on her shoulder, neck and back of her head.
1923
1924So, no, he's not on the sex register for kissing a female friend. He's on the sex register because he sexually assaulted an employee.
1925
1926And quite how a parking ticket or not plays into that, fuck knows.
1927
1928DodgyLandings
1929##	2018-03-12T20:03:57+00:00	
1930You're right, I misremembered.
1931
1932DodgyLandings
1933##	2018-03-12T20:11:36+00:00	
1934No, I suspect all the headlines are awful. Could you post them up too?
1935
1936DodgyLandings
1937##	2018-03-12T20:14:35+00:00	
1938Oh look, you post on Men's Rights. What a bellend.
1939
1940DodgyLandings
1941##	2018-03-12T20:21:51+00:00	
1942Because it implies an innocence or maybe an understanding - it certainly doesn't shout unwanted sexual contact. He also did far more than kiss her shoulder - neck kissing is far more intimate. I'm honestly struggling on how to explain that if I'm honest.
1943
1944Yes, I'd rather the other headlines or something factual.
1945
1946DodgyLandings
1947##	2018-03-13T11:13:35+00:00	
1948You're missing what he's saying. War needs to be avoided at all costs, absolutely, but this is violent agression from one Nation State onto another.
1949
1950DodgyLandings
1951##	2018-03-13T11:15:23+00:00	
1952They almost killed a Police man in this latest attempt. I agree the other poster is over dramatic, but pretending like this is a minor incident is also silly.
1953
1954DodgyLandings
1955##	2018-03-13T12:21:47+00:00	
1956Can't they just pour it all out into the sea and save us all?
1957
1958DodgyLandings
1959##	2018-03-13T16:52:20+00:00	
1960"Being a traitor to the motherland is bad for your health"
1961
1962DodgyLandings
1963##	2018-03-13T18:48:34+00:00	
1964God, why do people do this on Reddit? It's got to be one of the most annoying traits on here.
1965
1966He's the speaker of the House, hardly like some random guy.
1967
1968Do you write off everything May says as 'Women voices thoughts' or do you also account for the fact she's PM?
1969
1970DodgyLandings
1971##	2018-03-13T19:22:53+00:00	
1972My problem isn't the story, it's the need to distill it down into a stupid sentence that deliberately ignores key factors.
1973
1974Dave down the pub having a sticker is a man having an opinion. An MP having an opinion is somewhat different, given their position.
1975
1976DodgyLandings
1977##	2018-03-13T20:55:49+00:00	
1978The great news is that if we do go to full scale war with Russia then you're unlikely to have long to worry about it
1979
1980DodgyLandings
1981##	2018-03-14T07:25:39+00:00	
1982Ooooh, very clever. Bet you've got a GCSE and everything.
1983
1984DodgyLandings
1985##	2018-03-14T07:36:39+00:00	
1986Some people really do just need a good hiding.
1987
1988DodgyLandings
1989##	2018-03-14T07:44:53+00:00	
1990Yeah, but I do okay, thanks - maybe it's a lack of exposure to women that makes you the way you are. Bless.
1991
1992DodgyLandings
1993##	2018-03-14T08:12:44+00:00	
1994Because a set of GCSEs is pretty much the bare minimum - even I managed that. You sound particularly hurt by the accusation, though, even though it was you who decided to randomly come in, stalk my posts and figuratively kick the door in. What, did you expect me to offer you tea and biscuits you silly cunt? If you can't handle a bit of lip back, maybe don't pick fights.
1995
1996I won't be providing anything, because I stand by my belief that MRA is made up soley of pathetic, sad individuals making up for their absolute failure in life and engaging with you would provide a validation you don't deserve.
1997
1998DodgyLandings
1999##	2018-03-14T09:43:36+00:00	
2000Aw, piss off you pathetic manchild.
2001
2002DodgyLandings
2003##	2018-03-14T09:43:26+00:00	
2004Hahaha, ohhhh, it's you. I did wonder, but didn't care enough to check. So you're now stalking me. Fuck off.
2005
2006DodgyLandings
2007##	2018-03-14T09:55:24+00:00	
2008It would be nice.
2009
2010DodgyLandings
2011##	2018-03-14T10:12:45+00:00	
2012Wait, you think women have a bellend? You've got some issues there, chief, but I'm not going to be the one to help you through them
2013
2014DodgyLandings
2015##	2018-03-14T10:58:29+00:00	
2016You sound exactly like an MRA poster. Is there a course you can take to be such a victim?
2017
2018DodgyLandings
2019##	2018-03-14T11:25:18+00:00	
2020Several! But, seriously, am I misinterpreting what you meant by this sentence:
2021
2022And should these qualities be derided in general by use of the pejorative ''bellend', referring to women's anatomy?
2023
2024DodgyLandings
2025##	2018-03-14T16:44:00+00:00	
2026Not going to lie, those are really quite funny. My dad would love the Fathers Day ones.
2027
2028DodgyLandings
2029##	2018-03-14T17:46:32+00:00	
2030He knows WMDs were found in Iraq, doesn't he?
2031
2032DodgyLandings
2033##	2018-03-15T07:31:07+00:00	
2034Get Caller ID and some of those BT phones which screen calls. They're very good - encourage older people to simply never answer to anyone they don't know, anything important will get a letter sent.
2035
2036DodgyLandings
2037##	2018-03-15T11:45:38+00:00	
2038Should be able to get it online - you can defo claim with Trainline tickets though they may come back to you for further info
2039
2040DodgyLandings
2041##	2018-03-15T12:43:42+00:00	
2042I just checked and the last time I sent them, via email, a copy of the confirmation email from The Train Line. Push back on this for sure
2043
2044DodgyLandings
2045##	2018-03-15T13:14:59+00:00	
2046What an absolute piece of shit. I sincerely believe there should be no second chances for somebody what can so deliberately take a life for so little reason.
2047
2048Still, 30 years is a long to consider his life choices and obviously by 74 he'll have little going for him anyway.
2049
2050DodgyLandings
2051##	2018-03-15T17:58:41+00:00	
2052I know, I understand. Point is he's eligible after that time.
2053
2054DodgyLandings
2055##	2018-03-15T19:36:40+00:00	
2056It's a show of force to those who think Russia did it and evidence that Russia needs to be strong in the face of adversary (I.e., a strong leader just like Putin) for idiots who don't.
2057
2058DodgyLandings
2059##	2018-03-16T11:31:26+00:00	
2060Because what's the fucking point? They're beyond corrupt, will simply waste time, make a mockery before eventually declaring it was Ukraine, the CIA or fucking moon people. It's a joke to them, they don't give a shit, it's just one less traitor.
2061
2062Look at what at the Officers reported in the Litvinenko case. TBH, even if this wasn't directly authorised from the Kremlin it's a case of boy calls wolf and I still wouldn't trust them anywhere near the investigation.
2063
2064DodgyLandings
2065##	2018-03-16T16:37:43+00:00	
2066Fortunately that's not how, well, anything works ever.
2067
2068DodgyLandings
2069##	2018-03-17T18:49:51+00:00	
2070I had shit to do so spent a considerable amount of time in the garden sawing wood and the like. Was bloody cold and the snow showers didn't help - wouldn'tmend, but did get my stuff done at least.
2071
2072DodgyLandings
2073##	2018-03-18T13:57:42+00:00	
2074Confusingly, electricity is actually extremely efficient at heating but it is very expensive.
2075
2076DodgyLandings
2077##	2018-03-19T13:24:48+00:00	
2078What? No it doesn't. It's only in the last few years it was a mandated default and even that started with an insanely low contribution.
2079
2080DodgyLandings
2081##	2018-03-20T10:52:15+00:00	
2082Yeah, I got the same vibes. Something doesn't ring right at all.
2083
2084DodgyLandings
2085##	2018-03-21T13:39:44+00:00	
2086I refuse to jump to any confusion because these things always come out and it's rarely quite what you think, but I still maintain there's more to be revealed about this one.
2087
2088Just everything about it is weird - the timeline, the parental response, the Police comms, the aftermath and now this.
2089
2090It's just odd, all of it.
2091
2092DodgyLandings
2093##	2018-03-22T07:30:59+00:00	
2094He's either trolling or stupid.
2095
2096DodgyLandings
2097##	2018-03-22T07:34:39+00:00	
2098Given that aviation pretty much pioneered that type of investigation, the fact that the AAIB report was so damning is very indicative. It's absolutely tragic and it's clear he didn't set out to hurt anybody that day, but he was commander of that aircraft and his bad deciiaon making leading up to the show and during the performance killed several people.
2099
2100DodgyLandings
2101##	2018-03-22T07:38:43+00:00	
2102Pilots don't have carte blanche to do whatever and then hold their hands up and say sorry.
2103
2104If your bad decision making throughout contributed heavily to crash, including breaking the law, then you're in for a bad time. I don't know any pilot who would find that to be news.
2105
2106DodgyLandings
2107##	2018-03-22T10:16:56+00:00	
2108So they want a woman to conceive and carry a baby to term, with some kind of legally mandated agreement that she MUST handover that child no matter what.
2109
2110What an entitled pair of pricks.
2111
2112DodgyLandings
2113##	2018-03-22T10:20:29+00:00	
2114Some parents don't believe in any form of physical punishment.
2115
2116Of this subset, some are good and have effective parenting methods. This is a small minority.
2117
2118What a complete and utter load of shite.
2119
2120DodgyLandings
2121##	2018-03-22T12:03:14+00:00	
2122No, that's the current situation which they aren't happy with.
2123
2124DodgyLandings
2125##	2018-03-22T12:21:24+00:00	
2126Ben said the current process involves a "lot of trust" between the couple and the surrogate, and before the parental order is signed the surrogate could decide to keep the child, with expectant couples having few legal rights.
2127
2128How else do you interpret that comment?
2129
2130DodgyLandings
2131##	2018-03-22T12:44:31+00:00	
2132There's also the entitlement to ownership of a child for the mother just because she birthed it. That's madness but I'm sure we should all be hoping for the magic bond to never be broken.
2133
2134You think the mothers role in this starts and ends at pushing said baby out?
2135
2136DodgyLandings
2137##	2018-03-22T13:42:01+00:00	
2138You'll say that when your bank account is emptied.
2139
2140DodgyLandings
2141##	2018-03-22T13:40:32+00:00	
2142Where, precisley did you send these details? You sound terrifyingly calm.
2143
2144DodgyLandings
2145##	2018-03-22T21:46:24+00:00	
2146Well, no. The age of criminal responsibility is ten. As a teen, especially, you would face protection for racism, bomb threats and so on.
2147
2148And that goes for anyone. So, really, nobody in the UK has free speech. But they don't anywhere, ultimately - people like the vague concept of completely free speech but that, by definition can't be so. I can't stand on your door and keep yelling cunt. I can't call a bomb threat and I can't, as per the classic, yell fire in a crowded theatre without consequence. And, more to the point, like most people I wouldn't want to live where people can do that.
2149
2150DodgyLandings
2151##	2018-03-23T15:07:53+00:00	
2152Jesus, I hope they're going to take him to the burns ward first!
2153
2154But, good, seriously. Little cunt - bet he doesn't feel so clever about it all now. And his shitty little bomb didn't even work properly.
2155
2156DodgyLandings
2157##	2018-03-23T15:20:04+00:00	
2158As if that's the people on the tubes fault. Wonder how he feels about the Kurds who got done over by his leader - as if Iraq was all pure and good in the fucking world.
2159
2160DodgyLandings
2161##	2018-03-23T16:35:43+00:00	
2162Like the vast majority of criminals in the UK, she probably has an undiagnosed mental illness.
2163
2164Uhm, you got a source on that.
2165
2166DodgyLandings
2167##	2018-03-23T16:37:00+00:00	
2168Given that she's really quite pretty with soft features, if she had an ounce of niceness about her she'd probably do fine in the world.
2169
2170DodgyLandings
2171##	2018-03-23T21:16:51+00:00	
2172They don't care. We are at a point where criminality is bordering on a safe career choice - this kind of crime isn't high risk, high reward - it's just another opportunity to earn a couple of quid.
2173
2174DodgyLandings
2175##	2018-03-24T07:20:57+00:00	
2176Thank you. Precisley.
2177
2178DodgyLandings
2179##	2018-03-24T08:01:36+00:00	
2180While this isn't really entirely true legal, it IS a real concern and it has been widely disseminated. Who wants to get prosecuted or arrested just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time and acting?
2181
2182I reported a burglary in progress - the call handler didn't seem to really believe that there was anyone in the house. Eventually I got annoyed and I was stressed so I, admittedly foolishly, said something like 'Fuck this, send someone or don't but I'm going to go and find them now and if they're lucky you lot will beat me to it'. She went fucking ballistic at me and threatened me with arrest.
2183
2184DodgyLandings
2185##	2018-03-24T08:27:11+00:00	
2186Except practical skills are important, as are rounded experiences growing up. Most single mothers aren't going to have the time or inclination to teach their kids to build a wall, change a cars spark plugs or whatever.
2187
2188Obviously it would be nice to teach girls this too, but you have to have a target and focus else you'll help no one
2189
2190DodgyLandings
2191##	2018-03-24T08:51:46+00:00	
2192I dunno, I can only draw on my own experiences. I remember my dad teaching me gear ratios with Lego, I remember watching him rebuild an engine and he was the one who taught me to look after my cars.
2193
2194Nobody can replace that bond, but I think a bit of decent constructive bloke time would do these kind of lads the world of good.
2195
2196DodgyLandings
2197##	2018-03-24T11:26:52+00:00	
2198You think I need positive proof beyond 'Theres someone in my house?
2199
2200DodgyLandings
2201##	2018-03-24T15:34:09+00:00	
2202Yes, I do expect that. And that's literally what they did and we're there very quickly with taser armed officers and dogs.
2203
2204No idea what fucking world you live in
2205
2206DodgyLandings
2207##	2018-03-25T14:29:31+00:00	
2208How unfortunate for him.
2209
2210DodgyLandings
2211##	2018-03-25T15:04:50+00:00	
2212Because they have access to information that hasn't been published, such as witnesses and CCTV.
2213
2214DodgyLandings
2215##	2018-03-25T20:47:40+00:00	
2216Even in the army, your side arm is considered a self defense weapon.
2217
2218DodgyLandings
2219##	2018-03-25T20:49:59+00:00	
2220I don't know why you even engage here. You're talking to a cohort who have probably never been in a scrap in their lives, let alone the victim of attempt murder or GBH
2221
2222DodgyLandings
2223##	2018-03-26T16:48:12+00:00	
2224Yep, given that he'll likely be out in six. I'd be glad to never see him outside again - surely at that point it's becoming tantamount to murder in that serious injury or death was inevitable.
2225
2226DodgyLandings
2227##	2018-03-27T12:21:09+00:00	
2228How more journalist don't get knocked the fuck out I'll never know.
2229
2230DodgyLandings
2231##	2018-03-28T09:50:44+00:00	
2232Fantastic news. Disgraceful that he even came close to leaving - talk about spitting in the face of the victims.
2233
2234DodgyLandings
2235##	2018-03-28T10:20:13+00:00	
2236Piss off.
2237
2238DodgyLandings
2239##	2018-03-28T10:36:12+00:00	
2240Were you born this much of an insufferable cunt or did you have to attend classes?
2241
2242DodgyLandings
2243##	2018-03-28T10:49:38+00:00	
2244Now what the fuck are you dribbling on about?
2245
2246DodgyLandings
2247##	2018-03-28T10:48:04+00:00	
2248So overblown that a bunch of victims got together and suffered bringing the whole thing up again just to keep him inside.
2249
2250I genuinely believe the victims were totally forgotten and ignored during the making of this decision, and that's something we should be absolutely ashamed of. Use whatever metaphor makes you feel better, but I can't imagine how gut renching it must feel to know such a calculated predator is being released so quickly. He got an indeterminate sentence for good reason.
2251
2252Not only that, but they couldn't even be arsed to tell the victims first.
2253
2254DodgyLandings
2255##	2018-03-28T10:52:54+00:00	
2256Oh yeah, taking the victims into account regarding one of the nastiest, most damaging criminal acts there is. I'm not sure whether you're outright trolling or just have some serious mental impairment, but I hope you can find the help you need someday.
2257
2258DodgyLandings
2259##	2018-03-28T10:55:03+00:00	
2260You're a very peculiar person.
2261
2262DodgyLandings
2263##	2018-03-28T11:11:34+00:00	
2264Aw bless, you're still trying so hard sweetie.
2265
2266DodgyLandings
2267##	2018-03-28T12:40:14+00:00	
2268Weren't around for the IRA then, son?
2269
2270And lots of lunatics post their intentions, albeit often vaguely, first - especially lunatic school shooters and the like.
2271
2272DodgyLandings
2273##	2018-03-28T12:45:55+00:00	
2274This post saying your average run of the mill house is going to increase by 100k in 4 years has been massively upvoted.
2275
2276Get a fucking grip.
2277
2278DodgyLandings
2279##	2018-03-28T13:01:34+00:00	
2280Mate, the New IRA were phoning in threats as little as 2-3 years ago. The world hasn't changed that much - it all comes down to what your goal is. Bodycount vs publicity vs sheer terror etc
2281
2282DodgyLandings
2283##	2018-03-28T13:02:31+00:00	
2284Probably some 15 year olds who are going to absolutely shit themselves when they're face down with a gun pointed at them.
2285
2286DodgyLandings
2287##	2018-03-28T13:10:17+00:00	
2288Wow, you're really on one today aren't you! It's only Wednesday.
2289
2290DodgyLandings
2291##	2018-03-28T13:27:04+00:00	
2292It's the same sub, I wasn't following you.
2293
2294DodgyLandings
2295##	2018-03-28T14:14:05+00:00	
2296I think declaring the IRA didn't want to kill innocent people is a tad simplistic, given who they grouped into their legitimate targets list and how many people they successfully killed anyway.
2297
2298I'm not pretending to have the answer, but you can't just write off a threat as 'nobody would be daft enough to warn us'
2299
2300DodgyLandings
2301##	2018-03-28T15:06:20+00:00	
2302You leave.
2303
2304DodgyLandings
2305##	2018-03-28T15:08:55+00:00	
2306No it won't. If he can vaguely behave himself he will be out in half.
2307
2308DodgyLandings
2309##	2018-03-28T15:10:45+00:00	
2310As I said in the other thread, given his actions I think the punishment should be on par with murder. At the point it went wrong, it was akin to shooting up a Tesco and being surprised somebody got hurt.
2311
2312DodgyLandings
2313##	2018-03-28T16:21:43+00:00	
2314How many again, sorry?
2315
2316DodgyLandings
2317##	2018-03-29T07:29:28+00:00	
2318He clearly says 24/25
2319
2320DodgyLandings
2321##	2018-03-29T07:30:53+00:00	
2322Haha, 300 at 24. Mate, that wouldn't even cover my major bills.
2323
2324DodgyLandings
2325##	2018-03-29T07:32:19+00:00	
2326Same, though I admit to being absolutely astounded when it was suggested that I need to start paying. But, I'll confess I was just dossing after college at the time so the kick work.
2327
2328DodgyLandings
2329##	2018-03-29T20:11:17+00:00	
2330No he doesn't. At the END of his story, he states it's been ten years since they spoke.
2331
2332DURING the story, the sister was living at home at 24/25 when he confronted his mother.
2333
2334How on Earth can your reading comprehension be so bad, despite surely reading it again after your idiotic first post garnered so many down-votes? His post might not be ready for an Oxford Uni English exam, but it's hardly difficult to understand.
2335
2336DodgyLandings
2337##	2018-03-29T20:53:34+00:00	
2338To be fair, nine quid is barely the prescription charge.
2339
2340DodgyLandings
2341##	2018-03-29T20:57:16+00:00	
2342Is it chilly in here?
2343
2344DodgyLandings
2345##	2018-03-29T20:58:30+00:00	
2346They just can't grasp the concept of less is more and subtelty.
2347
2348The Inbetweeners was particularly special.
2349
2350DodgyLandings
2351##	2018-03-29T21:00:30+00:00	
2352As much as I can. Sincerely. I pride myself on keeping my fixed monthly costs low to allow plenty of play money - I'd much rather a meal out every week than a new car, for example.
2353
2354DodgyLandings
2355##	2018-03-30T07:45:55+00:00	
2356You're a special kind of moron.
2357
2358DodgyLandings
2359##	2018-03-31T16:12:38+00:00	
2360It's just...astounding isn't it. De-regulate, hand control to private entities and pass them a bunch of public money for 'nothing' and then be shocked it doesn't get spent how it probably should.
2361
2362That said, I worry about automatically reporting high salaries as a bad thing. Good people are expensive and we should want good people.
2363
2364DodgyLandings
2365##	2018-03-31T18:56:06+00:00	
2366No. I'll confess to not knowing too much about the RUC and their bad ways, but NI was a special kind of game. An almost literal Civil War, complete with armies and military based players with high amounts of firepower on both sides.
2367
2368You watch some old docs and you'll see Policing and Soldiering in NI was more akin to something in Afghanistan at times. IEDs, checkpoints, and direct and targeted attacks on Police, soliders and a host of others.
2369
2370Unless I've missed a major plot point, black people in American (or any people for that matter) have not formed a well armed paramilitary and declared a war. Nor are they shooting up Police stations, cars and firing mortars at checkpoints.
2371
2372Police in America shoot people for a lot of reasons, some not their fault, but none of them are because they're stood in the middle of a war.
2373
2374DodgyLandings
2375##	2018-03-31T19:01:05+00:00	
2376I dunno but you sound like an Incel poster and that alone is a problem. There's no Us vs Them, here, apart from on your side.
2377
2378DodgyLandings
2379##	2018-04-01T05:41:54+00:00	
2380I'm looking forwards to your sources regarding the events you referenced.
2381
2382DodgyLandings
2383##	2018-04-01T14:29:39+00:00	
2384When I first got diagnosed with IBS I figured I'd go healthy. Spent a week having loads of fruit, lots of smoothies etc. It, uh, didn't end well.
2385
2386Still eat fruit of course, but I have to limit my intake just like any unhealthy foods.
2387
2388DodgyLandings
2389##	2018-04-02T07:39:50+00:00	
2390Is it? You know a lot of people do actually eat meat for breakfast?
2391
2392DodgyLandings
2393##	2018-04-02T08:45:41+00:00	
2394All very inevitable. I've said this many times, but we've had years/decades of being told leave it to the Police. That's fine while there are, y'know, Police - or at least reasonable detection and conviction rates and good victim outcomes - but we're rapidly losing all that.
2395
2396I hate the idea of private security like this - it's got a raft of worrying features and it's just a small step from being condoned by the government which is terrifying. But I don't blame the people paying him - our towns Police station closed and nobody routinely patrols here anymore (Or if they do the routine is second Tuesday of the month).
2397
2398DodgyLandings
2399##	2018-04-02T12:47:54+00:00	
2400£100 a month repayment plan for a bullshit debt
2401
2402A debt that's been to court. At the end of the day, a debt is a debt - companies aren't there to be handing money out left right and center.
2403
2404DodgyLandings
2405##	2018-04-02T12:56:18+00:00	
2406Retained firefighters are more akin to Police Specials. They're paid and employed by whatever the local fire-service is and the station is funded the same way - it's just that they can't justify a permanent on-site staff. Which makes sense, really - even the quietest regular stations will have enough crews to cover 24/7 rotations
2407
2408It's nothing like the USA because, for all intents and purposes, they're just the normal fire service.
2409
2410DodgyLandings
2411##	2018-04-03T09:21:22+00:00	
2412Different people have different views on leisure time? Parents who want to take the kids away, but still want them in bed on time - leaving an evening stuck in a hotel/villa/whatever? People who work away?
2413
2414DodgyLandings
2415##	2018-04-03T09:25:01+00:00	
2416I don't think anyone is disputing that there aren't ways around it, but half the point of Netflix is the ability to jump on and browse when the mood takes you.
2417
2418DodgyLandings
2419##	2018-04-03T09:55:44+00:00	
2420Not to mention the security risk of a bunch of non-techies trying to set up public facing VPN's on their home network...
2421
2422DodgyLandings
2423##	2018-04-03T09:54:27+00:00	
2424He fucking sold vegetables on the street.
2425
2426And I cleaned cars at one point. Does that mean I shouldn't be working on big projects now?
2427
2428DodgyLandings
2429##	2018-04-03T09:58:37+00:00	
2430It'll be because of content licensing. The contracts won't be about specific customers accessing content (I.e., US citizens) etc, but rather where they are. Like region locking DVD's etc.
2431
2432Not that I don't think it's all antiquated bullshit that has little place in the modern world, but that's the media industry all over and always has been.
2433
2434DodgyLandings
2435##	2018-04-03T10:54:15+00:00	
2436Yes, that's why the EU made some changes to allow people to take their subscriptions around the EU with them. They kick in soon, but our benefit will then cease.
2437
2438DodgyLandings
2439##	2018-04-03T11:16:21+00:00	
2440Yes, but I've always had access to a private VPN so it never fully affected me.
2441
2442DodgyLandings
2443##	2018-04-03T12:00:54+00:00	
2444Sometimes you have to put in some effort to get the most out of travel, for work or otherwise.
2445
2446Yep, effort is what I want at 11pm after a 16 hour go-live.
2447
2448Why is it so so difficult for some people to comprehend that not everybody lives their lives the same?
2449
2450And so what if one persons definition of a holiday is chilling out with some TV?
2451
2452DodgyLandings
2453##	2018-04-03T12:37:50+00:00	
2454You fucking waster.
2455
2456DodgyLandings
2457##	2018-04-03T12:39:27+00:00	
2458I've actually been watching this MasterChef and I'm really enjoying it. He's a great grounding presenter - enough knowledge to be useful, but easy to relate to for the Everyman who just wants a nice plate of food.
2459
2460I think he's a good presenter, personally.
2461
2462DodgyLandings
2463##	2018-04-03T12:40:51+00:00	
2464That's not how a VPN works. There's nothing at the endpoint that will directly show that the traffic originates through a VPN tunnel.
2465
2466Set one up at home and I suspect they'll never detect it unless you share it.
2467
2468DodgyLandings
2469##	2018-04-03T12:43:40+00:00	
2470Yes, easy for those lacking knowledge and ability to punt a great big hole into their Network.
2471
2472DodgyLandings
2473##	2018-04-03T12:50:37+00:00	
2474I literally said the risk was for non-techies. I wouldn't recommend anyone who doesn't have a baseline set of security and network skills attempt to set up their own public facing VPN.
2475
2476DodgyLandings
2477##	2018-04-03T13:05:18+00:00	
2478Nah, way too simplistic. That's the definition of NAT which is used way way too extensively to be a direct indicator. Certainly possible that they've got some advanced algorithms going, though.
2479
2480DodgyLandings
2481##	2018-04-03T13:08:35+00:00	
2482Well....no, and you're kind of proving my point there.
2483
2484The "worst case scenario" is that they open up a bunch of firewall rules to devices on the network and have an insecure VPN which is easily detectable using port scanning giving anybody in the world the ability to route themselves through their Internet connection.
2485
2486DodgyLandings
2487##	2018-04-03T13:23:19+00:00	
2488Unless, say, you have no idea what you're doing (Or even worse, are in the 'a little knowledge' category) and jump onto the Google and search "Setting up a VPN".
2489
2490Anyway, you said worst case. Realistically, they'll probably have far more subtle vulnerabilities - crap passwords, outdated software sat in the DMZ etc.
2491
2492Once again, let me make myself clear: Despite what's been discussed/recommended in this very thread, I would not recommend anyone who doesn't have a good security and network grounding to attempt to set up a VPN on their home network. If it gets compromised, you're literally handing someone the keys to your kingdom.
2493
2494DodgyLandings
2495##	2018-04-03T15:00:03+00:00	
2496Good Google - did you understand the words in it, because if not, it's a pointless conversation to have.
2497
2498It's well known that Netflix blocks addresses belonging to the likes of VPS providers, cloud providers etc. This is far more accurate than attempting to use hacky solutions to automatically detect the usage of a VPN which makes little sense in your scenario. Why not just block all VPN connections if it's that simple?
2499
2500DodgyLandings
2501##	2018-04-03T15:37:57+00:00	
2502Did anyone ever say they did? How could they - it's a chemical, it's not like it'll be wearing the Russian flag.
2503
2504DodgyLandings
2505##	2018-04-03T17:31:43+00:00	
2506Good rate. Nice to know I'm still in the right range.
2507
2508DodgyLandings
2509##	2018-04-04T08:23:39+00:00	
2510[Citation Needed]
2511
2512DodgyLandings
2513##	2018-04-04T08:25:52+00:00	
2514I think you'd have to have the worst defense ever for the prosecution to make a case against normal household objects being "kept specifically as a weapon"
2515
2516DodgyLandings
2517##	2018-04-04T09:24:51+00:00	
2518Yeah, he was specifically discussing setting up your own at home
2519
2520DodgyLandings
2521##	2018-04-04T10:24:05+00:00	
2522You might want to actually read that article, particularly the comments from the PROSECUTION which lay down quite clearly that his use of the weapon actually fell within the law.
2523
2524His problem was that he owned it illegally, and that's what he was done for.
2525
2526DodgyLandings
2527##	2018-04-04T21:11:23+00:00	
2528Fuck em. They've dug this grave - they had their 'chance' when they decided not to follow the rules and be filthy cunts.
2529
2530DodgyLandings
2531##	2018-04-05T13:13:16+00:00	
2532Why not? She's a victim, not a suspect on bail. She can do what she likes.
2533
2534DodgyLandings
2535##	2018-04-05T13:15:25+00:00	
2536You think foreign investors are bulk buying 3 bed semis in the middle of nowhere?
2537
2538DodgyLandings
2539##	2018-04-05T13:31:42+00:00	
2540Except it won't be there any more - it'll just be a normal housing estate.
2541
2542DodgyLandings
2543##	2018-04-05T13:31:02+00:00	
2544Under what powers will they prevent her?
2545
2546DodgyLandings
2547##	2018-04-05T13:32:22+00:00	
2548Really? Any particular evidence that your average "affordable home" new build is being snapped up by foreign investors?
2549
2550DodgyLandings
2551##	2018-04-05T13:54:16+00:00	
2552Of course they'll WANT her to stay - no doubt about that. I just don't think they can legally stop her.
2553
2554DodgyLandings
2555##	2018-04-05T13:58:59+00:00	
2556Is she still a Russian citizen, too? Makes it even more complex if so.
2557
2558DodgyLandings
2559##	2018-04-05T14:08:30+00:00	
2560Evidence of this particular problem?
2561
2562DodgyLandings
2563##	2018-04-05T15:30:00+00:00	
2564The fuck is this?
2565
2566DodgyLandings
2567##	2018-04-05T15:46:48+00:00	
2568Try finding some stats. And this isn't in London.
2569
2570DodgyLandings
2571##	2018-04-05T15:50:40+00:00	
2572So is anyone going to provide a citation for this shite?
2573
2574DodgyLandings
2575##	2018-04-06T06:49:56+00:00	
2576I wonder what the crossover is of people who protested Mark Duggans death and stop and search and people who now feel the Police need to do more.
2577
2578DodgyLandings
2579##	2018-04-06T11:07:09+00:00	
2580So why have three kids? Not being nasty, but kids are expensive - that's why we only have one.
2581
2582DodgyLandings
2583##	2018-04-06T11:29:01+00:00	
2584£330 a month just on child care alone. Or the equivalent to, what, £5k of salary before tax!
2585
2586I do have kids - obviously I'm not suggesting you get rid of yours, but I do feel this is a problem somewhat of your own making.
2587
2588DodgyLandings
2589##	2018-04-06T12:50:50+00:00	
2590I had a walk around one over the weekend and there was nothing worth a punt - bearing in mind that anything expensive is effectively sold-as-seen once they fuck off.
2591
2592DodgyLandings
2593##	2018-04-06T18:00:12+00:00	
2594What, wasn't there protests over it and loads of press coverage?
2595
2596DodgyLandings
2597##	2018-04-06T18:02:16+00:00	
2598I went to one and it had me for not scanning a 5p bag ffs.
2599
2600DodgyLandings
2601##	2018-04-06T18:30:38+00:00	
2602They take part in the whole thing. You dont think Police officers go to court and see outcomes?
2603
2604DodgyLandings
2605##	2018-04-07T11:30:26+00:00	
2606Is that 40k adjusted for inflation? That's a BIG pot if so, how much are you saving per month?
2607
2608DodgyLandings
2609##	2018-04-07T14:20:02+00:00	
2610Then you're being a bit of a cunt, to be frank.
2611
2612DodgyLandings
2613##	2018-04-08T13:11:05+00:00	
2614This is interesting, because while our 30's house is bigger generally the living room is particularly small because of the adjacent hallway. Smaller than our previous 90's house.
2615
2616DodgyLandings
2617##	2018-04-08T15:25:52+00:00	
2618Do you want to share some examples where the BBC have posted fiction as news?
2619
2620DodgyLandings
2621##	2018-04-08T15:24:20+00:00	
2622No adjoining walls and two lots of block, brick and cavity insulation means there's a world of difference in terms of sound transfer.
2623
2624DodgyLandings
2625##	2018-04-08T19:06:50+00:00	
2626Capita is the antithesis of something being more than it's sum of parts.
2627
2628I wouldn't trust them to run a fucking bath.
2629
2630DodgyLandings
2631##	2018-04-08T19:08:42+00:00	
2632So you're posting shite that you know fuck all about then? Go on, what's your experience of medically diagnosed severe anxiety? What's your experience of working with those with serious mental issues?
2633
2634DodgyLandings
2635##	2018-04-08T19:30:56+00:00	
2636You just needed to answer yes to my first question, then. You're pathetic.
2637
2638DodgyLandings
2639##	2018-04-08T20:22:53+00:00	
2640You know those are two different countries, right?
2641
2642DodgyLandings
2643##	2018-04-08T20:27:57+00:00	
2644Ah, I just thought with such a weird username, post history, agenda and non sequitur post that you were moronic enough to confuse Scotland Yard and Scottish Police.
2645
2646In fact, I still do...
2647
2648DodgyLandings
2649##	2018-04-08T20:29:49+00:00	
2650Oh, I'm looking forward to your confusion regarding self defense to. Let me get, someone told you a pensioner was locked up for killing a burglar right?
2651
2652DodgyLandings
2653##	2018-04-08T20:31:13+00:00	
2654That's alright, maybe I'll just beat you up shorty.
2655
2656DodgyLandings
2657##	2018-04-08T20:37:06+00:00	
2658Hey dude, your low IQ and uncontrollable ignorance is showing.
2659
2660DodgyLandings
2661##	2018-04-08T21:26:05+00:00	
2662You've got a right dose of little man syndrome havent you.
2663
2664DodgyLandings
2665##	2018-04-09T06:24:26+00:00	
2666Well, they'll just need to do more with less. Like Jesus did.
2667
2668DodgyLandings
2669##	2018-04-09T11:53:29+00:00	
2670Are we now using AI to describe any sort of computer based filtering/sifting etc?
2671
2672I totally agree that these systems are generally shite, but it's not AI in any meaningful sense.
2673
2674DodgyLandings
2675##	2018-04-09T11:58:25+00:00	
2676What an utterly bizarre article. I'm really not grasping this bit:
2677
2678What links today’s gang warfare with London’s long gang history is that for the vast majority of people it is still invisible
2679
2680That's just bollocks. Dragged into it? Probably not - but invisible is pushing it. I've lived in some pretty dire areas of London and it's not hard to spot the gangster and drug dealers.
2681
2682And I'm sure the witnesses to these murders or those who get to walk past the forensics team don't feel like it's happening in a different world.
2683
2684DodgyLandings
2685##	2018-04-09T12:26:22+00:00	
2686Because openly dealing drugs in a gang controlled area is probably going to be bad for your health
2687
2688DodgyLandings
2689##	2018-04-09T12:37:37+00:00	
2690I'm not sure what you're asking or what point you're making. The article seems to imply that gang related activity is all but invisible to, I dunno, white people I think. I say that's utter bullshit and doesn't require too much digging to see it.
2691
2692DodgyLandings
2693##	2018-04-09T12:43:12+00:00	
2694Sorry, but no. An if then statement, matter how fuzzy the logic isn't AI in any meaningful manner. Thats just programming a computer to analyze something how you want.
2695
2696AI would involve machine learning, assessing, growing etc.
2697
2698DodgyLandings
2699##	2018-04-09T12:46:25+00:00	
2700Oh, right. You could probably start by looking for the parked up expensive car with 2 - 3 lads in it, hanging around selling drugs.
2701
2702If you're a gang type area then you can probably pop some money on them being affiliated with said gangs.
2703
2704DodgyLandings
2705##	2018-04-09T12:50:50+00:00	
2706Are you trying to argue this doesn't happen?
2707
2708DodgyLandings
2709##	2018-04-09T13:13:33+00:00	
2710I know where you're coming from, but it just seems meaningless to conflate the two to me. Literally every piece of software with some element of decision making is "Artificial Intelligence", there - and we've therefore had that for decades.
2711
2712DodgyLandings
2713##	2018-04-09T18:32:08+00:00	
2714Why are you even still here? Do you still think Scotland Yard is to do with Scottish Police?
2715
2716DodgyLandings
2717##	2018-04-09T18:34:08+00:00	
2718I'm not following your pension stuff at all. Can you elaborate on that?
2719
2720DodgyLandings
2721##	2018-04-09T18:38:22+00:00	
2722Honestly, it's an absolute dream both ways. If the company is reputable and officially affiliated with the airport then I won't think twice - done it a few times and it's worth every penny. I'm sure at least one had a full camera system on the way in to document the car.
2723
2724DodgyLandings
2725##	2018-04-09T19:18:26+00:00	
2726I didn't know about the first paragraph at all, to be honest. Never heard of that before.
2727
2728You don't have to pay into employer pensions , it just forces an employer to provide one and sets a minimum if you do which isn't unreasonable. I think that's broadly a good thing.
2729
2730Not so sure about the state pension disappearing, to be honest. I'm in the same generation and we are already the lost generation when it comes to pensions. Can't see them being able to can it, but it is a real concern.
2731
2732DodgyLandings
2733##	2018-04-10T06:23:12+00:00	
2734Absolutely pathetic. These people need a serious word with themselves.
2735
2736DodgyLandings
2737##	2018-04-10T09:10:36+00:00	
2738Fucking Good.
2739
2740I just read he's from the 'Travelling Community' - it's all fucking stacking up now.
2741
2742DodgyLandings
2743##	2018-04-10T09:59:22+00:00	
2744Really? So it's impossible to be heroic and kill somebody? No matter what - that's the line you draw? So, if someone takes out a school shooter, they can't be a hero?
2745
2746Get a grip you absolute helmet.
2747
2748DodgyLandings
2749##	2018-04-10T10:00:37+00:00	
2750I've tried, but I just can't work out ANY way that the thief could have avoided is. Nope, it seems the whole thing was completely out of his hands...
2751
2752DodgyLandings
2753##	2018-04-10T11:32:45+00:00	
2754You literally said the reason he can't be a hero is because he killed someone. It's no good backtracking now because you realise how utterly stupid your statement was.
2755
2756Though your pathetic attempt at downplaying the effect of a 2 person aggravated burglary says it all. I suspect you'd feel differently if it was an elderly relative of yours being attacked in their own home.
2757
2758DodgyLandings
2759##	2018-04-10T11:43:55+00:00	
2760You said calling him a hero is unacceptable (because) he killed someone.
2761
2762Are you changing that statement or not?
2763
2764DodgyLandings
2765##	2018-04-10T12:39:53+00:00	
2766I know a copper of 30 years. His only ever life or death call for backup was unknowingly chasing a, uh, traveller into a yard they were occupying.
2767
2768DodgyLandings
2769##	2018-04-10T17:12:42+00:00	
2770Dunno if he actually was or wasn't, but standard policy is to release their old regiment. I don't think the MOD ever release a press release saying SAS.
2771
2772DodgyLandings
2773##	2018-04-10T18:25:05+00:00	
2774Y'know, I don't actually care that much about the hunting (I am anti it, but being honest it's not something that's on my mind) but the more I see of this the more I'm tempted to go out with some sabs.
2775
2776DodgyLandings
2777##	2018-04-10T18:33:06+00:00	
2778300 is TINY for someone like them. Seriously. We rapidly hit over 100 people for our wedding once you start including partners - even more with kids. We had to start cutting people.
2779
2780DodgyLandings
2781##	2018-04-10T21:00:30+00:00	
2782We had to send a message.
2783
2784DodgyLandings
2785##	2018-04-11T11:19:00+00:00	
2786Do it anyway - they won't find out until you leave, and it's a bullshit clause anyway.
2787
2788DodgyLandings
2789##	2018-04-11T13:03:26+00:00	
2790You mean not a total, unrepentant cunt?
2791
2792DodgyLandings
2793##	2018-04-11T13:09:46+00:00	
2794I'm so angry for the householder and the local residents there. Just goes to show what a shit show community that cunt of a burgler belonged to that they're shameless enough to continue causing trouble and tensions.
2795
2796Those of you who get upset at how "Travellers" are portrayed and spoke about - this is the fucking tip of their horrid iceberg.
2797
2798On Tuesday, Elvina Lee, who said she was Mr Vincent's cousin, defended him, saying he "wasn't a murderer, he wasn't a rapist - they're putting him as a monster".
2799
2800Oh, go fuck yourself you utter piece of shit.
2801
2802DodgyLandings
2803##	2018-04-11T15:04:16+00:00	
2804Yes, he was on Radio 4 and asked directly.
2805
2806DodgyLandings
2807##	2018-04-11T18:57:51+00:00	
2808The family, who have identified themselves as Gypsies, said they were being treated differently because of their backgrounds and said they wanted to remember Vincent as a brother, son and friend and “a good man”. They have vowed to continue returning to the scene to replace the tributes.
2809
2810Oh I'm very sorry to hear that. Rest assured, I thought he was a complete cunt deserving of his fate well before I found out his heritage and realised his family were acting like cunts too.
2811
2812DodgyLandings
2813##	2018-04-11T18:56:42+00:00	
2814A lovely idea, but I expect they'll struggle to find one. I suspect the best bit of him dribbled out of his mum.
2815
2816DodgyLandings
2817##	2018-04-12T06:30:33+00:00	
2818Are you sure a simple replacement is notifiable? Is that a landlord thingbecause I'm sure you can legally DIY change an electric shower - like for like replacements of showers and cookers is explicitly excluded.
2819
2820DodgyLandings
2821##	2018-04-12T06:39:03+00:00	
2822As if moving abroad is a minor consideration.
2823
2824DodgyLandings
2825##	2018-04-12T06:46:24+00:00	
2826Or people who like their families, country or have ties at home. Don't be a dick.
2827
2828DodgyLandings
2829##	2018-04-12T07:15:04+00:00	
2830You're getting downvoted because 'move abroad' isn't some magic answer which will solve his problems, nor is England that bad that he'll likely be better off doing so.
2831
2832DodgyLandings
2833##	2018-04-12T07:14:07+00:00	
2834Liking your country and wanting to be near your family and friends is being 'dictated to'. We are a first world country that shouldn't (and doesn't, really) need people to economically migrate. The only reason to move abroad is because you want to.
2835
2836Contrary to popular belief on this sub, Britain is still a very strong and rich nation.
2837
2838DodgyLandings
2839##	2018-04-12T07:59:35+00:00	
2840Where are you getting that from?
2841
2842DodgyLandings
2843##	2018-04-12T09:10:24+00:00	
2844I know they don't define, so it's intrpretion. I'll tell you that there are a LOT of Sparks etc out there who disagree with your brother, including The IET...
2845
2846Although fixed I don't see how its any more part of the circuit than a cooker.
2847
2848DodgyLandings
2849##	2018-04-12T09:17:28+00:00	
2850They don't get to disagree with building control which is the point. Regular inspections show that the standards are pretty low.
2851
2852With absolutely no offence to your brother, it's not like Building Control themselves are the legal authority and it's not like nobody in a job ever misinterpreted something. Until we get a test case, I guess nobody will ever truly know but I can't find anything official that supports his view.
2853
2854There's no room to compromise where safety is concerned.
2855
2856There's always compromise, that's why not every piece of electrical work requires an electrician and notification.
2857
2858DodgyLandings
2859##	2018-04-12T10:00:40+00:00	
2860Sure, but I could then take them to court - the authority is the legal system and legislation. Just like Police officers aren't all barristers.
2861
2862DodgyLandings
2863##	2018-04-12T12:46:29+00:00	
2864Why do you need that?
2865
2866DodgyLandings
2867##	2018-04-12T13:05:50+00:00	
2868What are your qualifications, knowledge and experience in the world of chemical weapons development?
2869
2870DodgyLandings
2871##	2018-04-12T13:18:34+00:00	
2872No - they're backing us on the analysis of the agent - that's it Russian designed and produced to a very high purity, pointing to that of a state actor.
2873
2874That has always been the core of the public argument - of course, the goal posts move again now because this is an information and disinformation war.
2875
2876DodgyLandings
2877##	2018-04-12T13:39:38+00:00	
2878Everything else the British government has said is without verified evidence
2879
2880PUBLIC evidence. Not the same.
2881
2882DodgyLandings
2883##	2018-04-12T14:12:43+00:00	
2884!isbot DodgyLandings
2885
2886DodgyLandings
2887##	2018-04-12T14:19:04+00:00	
2888I don't like those odds.
2889
2890DodgyLandings
2891##	2018-04-12T15:38:32+00:00	
2892If you think this is a right wing sub then you're more deluded than I even thought possible.
2893
2894DodgyLandings
2895##	2018-04-12T15:47:21+00:00	
2896Haha, superb. I've replied like twice and you think this sub is right wing.
2897
2898DodgyLandings
2899##	2018-04-12T16:50:57+00:00	
2900Most labs don't make military grade chemical weapons, though. Point is, and I can't believe I'm having to say this again, that it's not something you can knock up in a shed. It's not an IED, its a tactical weapon
2901
2902Like, if someone fired a Tomahawk cruise missile into Russia do you think they'd blame terrorists?
2903
2904DodgyLandings
2905##	2018-04-12T16:57:41+00:00	
2906Ah right, so everyone else is wrong and you're an expert on making up Novichock now.
2907
2908DodgyLandings
2909##	2018-04-12T17:24:39+00:00	
2910And a nuclear missile is just physics.
2911
2912DodgyLandings
2913##	2018-04-12T17:24:13+00:00	
2914The international community and intelligence agencies?
2915
2916DodgyLandings
2917##	2018-04-12T17:35:48+00:00	
2918Are you chemical engineer?
2919
2920DodgyLandings
2921##	2018-04-12T17:35:15+00:00	
2922Where did I say that?
2923
2924DodgyLandings
2925##	2018-04-12T17:47:03+00:00	
2926Except this wasn't sarin. Can you describe to me how to make very pure novichok now?
2927
2928DodgyLandings
2929##	2018-04-12T17:50:11+00:00	
2930Last week they were denying ever having produced it. And then they said it wasn't part of the chemical weapons ban. I'm pretty sure at one point they denied it's use. I lose track, they change the story every ten minutes, it's insane.
2931
2932DodgyLandings
2933##	2018-04-12T17:54:29+00:00	
2934Twitter doesn't work for me, but tell you what, why don't you find some credible views from people with the full facts as shared.
2935
2936DodgyLandings
2937##	2018-04-12T18:05:34+00:00	
2938Hahaha, oh right, yes. Fuck me, you lot are incredible.
2939
2940DodgyLandings
2941##	2018-04-12T18:05:14+00:00	
2942No, I meant I literally can't see the tweet. But, seriously, yes to a degree because he's not been handed any intelligence. Nobody is saying the stuff has a barcode, but so far everyone that's been looped in on all the evidence seems pretty happy its Russia.
2943
2944DodgyLandings
2945##	2018-04-12T21:22:14+00:00	
2946Has it ever supported one?
2947
2948DodgyLandings
2949##	2018-04-12T21:29:04+00:00	
2950Yes. Some people need to be dead.
2951
2952DodgyLandings
2953##	2018-04-13T06:48:51+00:00	
2954I'll be blunt - I've lived through having a child critically ill. If some protesting cunt had come near to causing me any disruption in getting to and from the hospital I would not have been happy.
2955
2956Not the time. Not the place. Disgraceful people, and in the name of fucking God too. Funny, I don't recall Jesus ever being so much of a total prick
2957
2958DodgyLandings
2959##	2018-04-13T18:42:30+00:00	
2960You need to post a certain number of times. It's to stop spammers. But bye, anyway, always love when someone has to announce their flounce of an online community.
2961
2962DodgyLandings
2963##	2018-04-13T18:58:03+00:00	
2964Why not message a mod and ask them about it? Most regular posters have no issues.
2965
2966DodgyLandings
2967##	2018-04-13T18:56:26+00:00	
2968We have one of the oldest modern intelligence services (I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but you know what I mean) and incredibly highly respected they are too.
2969
2970We also have incredibly well respected special forces assets.
2971
2972Obviously I don't believe the Russians - but 'we couldn't if we wanted to' is a somewhat silly defence. I'm not sure why this sub is so desperate to portray Britain as a backwater.
2973
2974DodgyLandings
2975##	2018-04-13T19:02:14+00:00	
2976Rightly or wrongly, the EU broadly dismissed the idea that Google was a passive bystander a few years back.
2977
2978DodgyLandings
2979##	2018-04-14T14:03:54+00:00	
2980Unsurprisingly, this is also a guy defending Russia over their chemical attack.
2981
2982DodgyLandings
2983##	2018-04-14T14:07:51+00:00	
2984It's great reading these threads where everyone forgets we are still a world power.
2985
2986DodgyLandings
2987##	2018-04-15T09:58:40+00:00	
2988Cameron wasn't on the remain side...
2989
2990DodgyLandings
2991##	2018-04-15T12:42:45+00:00	
2992I meant was :(
2993
2994DodgyLandings
2995##	2018-04-15T17:52:27+00:00	
2996So 2-3x the number of MPs to cover the shifts?
2997
2998DodgyLandings
2999##	2018-04-15T19:21:02+00:00	
3000Because you can't send every single thing to the Polls. Democracy isn't giving every single person a say - if we had that we'd probably still have the death penalty, no votes for women and probably no gay rights.
3001
3002At some point you have to put somebody in a position of knowledge and power and trust that they're going to act in the countries best interests.
3003
3004DodgyLandings
3005##	2018-04-15T19:23:39+00:00	
3006Okay - a realistic modern parliamentary democracy or whatever specific phrase you want to use. Point it, it's not anti democratic to say 'The Prime Minister has the power to do x y and z'
3007
3008DodgyLandings
3009##	2018-04-15T19:31:49+00:00	
3010So how is the post you respond to authoritarian and anti democratic? They HAVE the right and it's because we voted them in.
3011
3012DodgyLandings
3013##	2018-04-15T19:41:12+00:00	
3014Even on what is often slagged for being a "left wing" sub people are far too happy to diss democracy and suggest that we need far less of it.
3015
3016So which is it? Us here or May?
3017
3018DodgyLandings
3019##	2018-04-16T08:20:32+00:00	
3020You don't have to prove anything to get married, you just turn up.
3021
3022Not married, then?
3023
3024DodgyLandings
3025##	2018-04-16T08:25:18+00:00	
3026Interesting. I think (hope), that we've passed the peak of social media. It's never going to just disappear, but I certainly hope that we see the likes of Facebook losing their grip.
3027
3028DodgyLandings
3029##	2018-04-16T08:41:44+00:00	
3030Same - I've still got Facebook and I don't mind it's existence, but I don't spend any real time there. It has some particular groups which are useful and it's great as a bulletin system for clubs etc - but beyond that I've really fallen out of bothering. I've just looked and I posted to my profile once in Jan, and once in March.
3031
3032Same as you - really. I think the novelty of finding my old friends and all that has wore off a little, once you've done the "Oh, Steve became a bank manager, wife, 2 kids" it rapidly gets dull.
3033
3034DodgyLandings
3035##	2018-04-16T08:48:26+00:00	
3036What an absolute bunch of cunts. Literally no other word for it. Disrespectful, selfish and downright sickening.
3037
3038Serve them right if some upset parent decks one of them - I know that's how I'd feel if they caught me at the wrong time.
3039
3040DodgyLandings
3041##	2018-04-16T08:53:18+00:00	
3042You're going to need to cite that.
3043
3044DodgyLandings
3045##	2018-04-16T08:59:10+00:00	
3046Ah, that's gotta be the most dangerous bit of social media - the highlight reel!
3047
3048And the worst bit is that we're all guilty of it - posting the best bits, the bits you want others to see etc. And, really, there's nothing wrong with that but it does give an utterly warped perspective of peoples lives.
3049
3050I've got a friend who is in the "always travelling" category and good for him. He posts up some cool as hell photos and seems to be always doing something interesting. I know for a fact he'll never truly be happy with his life, though - he works in a cuthroat, high risk reward industry that means staying in the literal middle of knowhere, Africa. Constantly trying to live up to his parents expectations of what he should be, even though it doesn't make him happy. Wants to settle down, but keeps going with women who are in no way good for him (Married, normally)! Anyway, I could go on - but that's my point, really. Those who don't have a heart to heart with him are probably very jealous - but I can live without it ;)
3051
3052DodgyLandings
3053##	2018-04-16T09:37:11+00:00	
3054Ah, okay, slightly semantic because in that example they still considered it unreasonable behaviour.
3055
3056But yes, an interesting "quirk"
3057
3058DodgyLandings
3059##	2018-04-16T10:23:23+00:00	
3060To be fair, does a blowjob or something count?
3061
3062DodgyLandings
3063##	2018-04-16T10:57:13+00:00	
3064Nono, I meant in this legal sense. They seem to be classing adultery as purely intercourse between a man and a woman?
3065
3066DodgyLandings
3067##	2018-04-16T15:25:53+00:00	
3068We did - though it got named Plebgate mainly.
3069
3070DodgyLandings
3071##	2018-04-16T15:39:53+00:00	
3072Regardless of how well a landlord treats a tennant, they have taken houses out of a fixed supply of stock and driven up the prices for those that are left renting or yet to purchase a property.
3073
3074Just like every single other commodity out there ever, you mean? You're literally describing the concept of business.
3075
3076DodgyLandings
3077##	2018-04-16T15:41:40+00:00	
3078Because, when it comes to landlords, this sub is ridiculous.
3079
3080DodgyLandings
3081##	2018-04-16T15:42:40+00:00	
3082Go on then, have you actually done the sums on this?
3083
3084DodgyLandings
3085##	2018-04-16T15:45:49+00:00	
3086After 30 years, sure. But you're putting down 25% of that before you've even started so you need to be beating, what, 4-5% on compound interest in an ISA. And the ISA is tax free at the end - CGT and Stamp Duty on the purchase punt a very large dent into your profit.
3087
3088DodgyLandings
3089##	2018-04-16T15:44:04+00:00	
3090From my maths, buying a BTL now would be risky if you want to beat a stocks and shares ISA. There really isn't that much in it unless how prices continue to rise quickly and that's not guaranteed. And if you want / need to sell during a downward trend you may do far worse than having just invested.
3091
3092And you still need capital to invest.
3093
3094DodgyLandings
3095##	2018-04-16T15:50:28+00:00	
3096As you don't buy (most) other commodities in order to make profit off other people
3097
3098Uhm, every single trading business does. From corner shops to electricity companies.
3099
3100Even so, most other commodities are not in short supply. For things in short supply, that's exactly what business WANT to be selling.
3101
3102You said fixed supply, which is no more true for houses than it is for most other things.
3103
3104DodgyLandings
3105##	2018-04-16T16:22:43+00:00	
3106Houses aren't particularly expensive if you have the capital - pre fab or traditional build.
3107
3108It'll be the land and associated costs which will fuck you right up.
3109
3110DodgyLandings
3111##	2018-04-16T17:26:02+00:00	
3112Timber as a material doesn't last forever and once built can be hard to manage or inspect. Lots of houses are timber frame now and it's not all bad, but it offers a lot less long term certainty than a traditional brick and mortar build. It's main call for big builder is that's its cheaper.
3113
3114There are a lot of thoughts each way on the internet but I personally would avoid both building one or buying one.
3115
3116DodgyLandings
3117##	2018-04-16T17:29:03+00:00	
3118Yes, essentially. It's not straightforward, but they have lots of ways such as milestone payments etc.
3119
3120DodgyLandings
3121##	2018-04-17T05:35:57+00:00	
3122So no then?
3123
3124DodgyLandings
3125##	2018-04-17T07:24:35+00:00	
3126Don't bother, mate. The other week there were people convinced that the Chinese were buying up hoards of semi detached houses on random housing estates and I was roundly downvoted when asking for evidence on such a ludicrous claim.
3127
3128DodgyLandings
3129##	2018-04-17T07:43:46+00:00	
3130Not quite the same, but when my kid was ICU they had a little family room for quiet time and contemplation etc. For anyone who has never had the pleasure, Paediatric Intensive Care isn't a fun place to be around and sometimes you need to walk away for a moment.
3131
3132While there, one family rolled up - about a dozen of them complete with a bunch of KFC bucket meals, bottles of beer and cakes and turned the whole thing into a god damn party.
3133
3134Actually, no, fuck it. I'll say it - they were an Evangelical Christian group who also spent 10 loud minutes 'praying' at the kids (open plan) bedside.
3135
3136I remember just looking at my wife as though I'd entered another fucking universe.
3137
3138DodgyLandings
3139##	2018-04-17T07:45:29+00:00	
3140Where do you morons get this shit?
3141
3142DodgyLandings
3143##	2018-04-17T09:13:29+00:00	
3144They went up 60 percent in a few years? As in a 150k house is now worth 240? Can you show us?
3145
3146DodgyLandings
3147##	2018-04-17T09:23:29+00:00	
3148Wait, you're trying to now have a conversation about prices in Norway in a Reddit called United kingdom in a thread about UK house prices without actually telling anyone?
3149
3150DodgyLandings
3151##	2018-04-17T09:38:09+00:00	
3152Yes yes, we know London is mental. He said be moved out though.
3153
3154DodgyLandings
3155##	2018-04-17T09:52:14+00:00	
3156Wow, surprising! Though it's another highly sought after city centre location, but yeah, big rise.
3157
3158DodgyLandings
3159##	2018-04-17T09:59:23+00:00	
3160Well good for you, but pretending it's country wide is just silly.
3161
3162DodgyLandings
3163##	2018-04-17T10:10:45+00:00	
3164Apart from the South East which we all agree is broadly fucked where are these large areas?
3165
3166DodgyLandings
3167##	2018-04-17T10:25:26+00:00	
3168I was close to it, but starting a fight there is even worse really.
3169
3170DodgyLandings
3171##	2018-04-17T14:49:34+00:00	
3172Probably not the most costly in a literal sense, but land in the UK can very expensive - especially if it already has permission and services nearby. Remember that people buy complete houses just to knock the thing down and rebuild.
3173
3174Estimates are going to vary greatly and it's no means a simple task, but take the Jewson calculator here:
3175
3176https://www.jewson.co.uk/working-with-you/for-self-builders/preliminary-planning/calculators/build-cost-calculator/
3177
3178So they reckon, in the South West (I.e., probably the most expensive place) that you can build a 185 sq/ft house to an excellent quality, using a main contractor (I.e., the least efficient way to do it cost wise) for about £250k.
3179
3180So that's 20k more than your current pre-fab, except you get a lot more control over it and it's likely to have a much better market appeal after. Do it self managed in the Midlands and you're well under 200k.
3181
3182Obviously there's a lot more to think about (Architects fees, hassle, etc) but I just wanted to highlight that £200k+ gets you a lot of traditionally built house.
3183
3184DodgyLandings
3185##	2018-04-17T21:08:48+00:00	
3186I feel really bad about my post given your edit. Fair play.
3187
3188DodgyLandings
3189##	2018-04-18T05:43:11+00:00	
3190You realise we employ the military already?
3191
3192DodgyLandings
3193##	2018-04-18T05:45:56+00:00	
3194Jesus, woe betide a politician has a local accent.
3195
3196DodgyLandings
3197##	2018-04-19T06:46:57+00:00	
3198Yep, this is more akin to somebody getting caught up in the crossfire of a shooting or something
3199
3200DodgyLandings
3201##	2018-04-19T07:14:07+00:00	
3202I'm not sure when transponders became commonplace, but if it had one, almost certainly., It would have just been a mounted unit a little like a car radio. If it was on, it would have been easy to turn off - there's an odd belief that they're security devices but that's not true at all.
3203
3204Even if it was on, back then it would have only transmitted the code you put in (that's still possible today, but not by default) so unless you were able to match the transponder with the plane it wouldn't have told you much.
3205
3206DodgyLandings
3207##	2018-04-19T11:34:10+00:00	
3208For what, exactly? To live out of poverty - not much, just enough to cover rent and food etc.
3209
3210To continue my lifestyle and hobbies etc, 120k a year or so
3211
3212DodgyLandings
3213##	2018-04-19T14:33:48+00:00	
3214In a money laundering case, too!
3215
3216DodgyLandings
3217##	2018-04-19T21:20:23+00:00	
3218The Bribery act actually has specific exceptions for such times - though I think it's mainly for dealing with dodgy foreign officials at checkpoints and the like
3219
3220DodgyLandings
3221##	2018-04-20T06:46:03+00:00	
3222Lots of small, flat file based systems spread over the country. No easy way to cross reference, making it a hugely manual job. I suspect backups will be covered in some form, but I'm not sure.
3223
3224I dunno why everyone thinks there's a database of these mugshots, or why it's going to know whether they're innocent or guilty.
3225
3226There probably should be, sure, but we all should know the reality of IT - especially on a national scale. I'm more confused how so many people supposedly in IT are confused - legacy tech and technical debt is always a nightmare.
3227
3228DodgyLandings
3229##	2018-04-20T09:01:00+00:00	
3230I suppose, also, despite being a fairly techy sub (like most are), most people are going to be reasonably young with little experience at the proper Enterprise level
3231
3232DodgyLandings
3233##	2018-04-20T10:07:28+00:00	
3234As an Ubranite, can you expand on it?
3235
3236DodgyLandings
3237##	2018-04-21T09:25:27+00:00	
3238Bore off.
3239
3240DodgyLandings
3241##	2018-04-21T12:42:55+00:00	
3242They might not have life guards - AFAIK, there's no specific legislation to say you have to have permanent cover.
3243
3244As for the parents, well, he's a three year old. They do dumb things in the blink of an eye - if he wandered off they may have noticed immediately but not found him in time.
3245
3246It's an awful thing that I wouldn't wish up anyone and I'll be reserving judgement
3247
3248DodgyLandings
3249##	2018-04-21T13:34:41+00:00	
3250I've been to lots of places without a lifeguard. Depends on the pool and intended clientele - I went to a David Lloyd esque gym and the indoor pool was very much geared for adult swimming and had limited lifeguard cover.
3251
3252DodgyLandings
3253##	2018-04-21T20:27:12+00:00	
3254You watched Bloomberg as a child?
3255
3256DodgyLandings
3257##	2018-04-22T20:37:30+00:00	
3258Haha, I knew exactly what that clip was the second it started.
3259
3260DodgyLandings
3261##	2018-04-23T12:36:07+00:00	
3262Poor child. I feel so so sorry for him and I'm also sorry for anyone else with a child in that hospital. Hard to describe how it feels, but this kind of shit is not what you need. Bunch of cunts.
3263
3264DodgyLandings
3265##	2018-04-23T12:44:36+00:00	
3266I can't see how it's bad for the heart any more than any other cardio. But yes, running is very much a high impact excercise and believe me, anyone capable of doing a marathon knows it.
3267
3268But, ultimately, it's still what we are built to do and it's the only real cardio you can literally do anywhere with little more than some trainers. Running in genetal isn't bad for you, it just has some risks and those are very much increased in the long distance world.
3269
3270DodgyLandings
3271##	2018-04-23T12:47:11+00:00	
3272When they catch some parent on a particularly bad day and they punch someone out, probably. Protesting a hospital like this is low.
3273
3274DodgyLandings
3275##	2018-04-23T15:57:00+00:00	
3276Yeah, because the horse has an understanding of the risk?
3277
3278DodgyLandings
3279##	2018-04-23T16:41:16+00:00	
3280Don't be a prick
3281
3282DodgyLandings
3283##	2018-04-23T18:07:25+00:00	
3284Are you defective?
3285
3286DodgyLandings
3287##	2018-04-23T20:00:54+00:00	
3288But that's not 'running', that's a marathon. It's an endurance rate and incredibly hard work - I doubt many people do it without realising what it's all about.
3289
3290No different to a long swim or cycle in that sense - they're pushing you to your limits, that's the whole point. You don't do a marathon accidentally!
3291
3292DodgyLandings
3293##	2018-04-23T20:34:02+00:00	
3294But this thread we are in was about the dangers of 'running'.
3295
3296DodgyLandings
3297##	2018-04-24T05:46:45+00:00	
3298Oh, almost like exactly what I said in my response to the guy talking about running in general. You patronising cunt.
3299
3300DodgyLandings
3301##	2018-04-24T08:41:37+00:00	
3302What chance? Where? Don't talk such utter shit.
3303
3304DodgyLandings
3305##	2018-04-24T10:08:49+00:00	
3306Really, fucking try harder then. If you can't think of any single time where death is the best outcome for the indiciudal then you have a woefully limited understanding of pain, suffering and the world around you.
3307
3308DodgyLandings
3309##	2018-04-24T10:35:41+00:00	
3310If they are unable to make the decision, no decision has been made, and keeping the status quo is the right thing to do until the patient can make a decision.
3311
3312Except that's never going ot happen. So your morally right, humane method is to keep the child artificially alive, potentially in pain, for the indefinite amount of time until they randomly naturally die? Sounds lovely.
3313
3314DodgyLandings
3315##	2018-04-24T10:41:36+00:00	
3316Deliberately using emotive words such as murder and execution make your argument look very very weak indeed.
3317
3318DodgyLandings
3319##	2018-04-24T10:58:14+00:00	
3320a person is killed by another person against their expressed wishes
3321
3322What, the toddler has asked to remain on life support? Must have missed that bit.
3323
3324a person being put to death as a result of a court order?
3325
3326Being "Put to do death" implies doing something to artificially end life. This is NOT the same as withdrawing equipment to artificially preserve life. Death will be natural.
3327
3328DodgyLandings
3329##	2018-04-24T11:01:03+00:00	
3330Yeah, he seems absolutely fine. Jesus Christ, they're not pulling him out of his bedroom and eliminating him - the kid is not in a good way.
3331
3332DodgyLandings
3333##	2018-04-24T11:06:48+00:00	
3334The public rapidly start to turn, basically. I think the Royals know by now that they only exist by virtue of people liking them or being apathetic.
3335
3336DodgyLandings
3337##	2018-04-24T11:12:30+00:00	
3338I don't agree with it, but it's hardly a loophole if that's literally what the rules say.
3339
3340DodgyLandings
3341##	2018-04-24T11:15:25+00:00	
3342He did go to war, to be fair.
3343
3344DodgyLandings
3345##	2018-04-24T11:51:45+00:00	
3346Go on then, tell us how he flew helicopter missions in a war zone without being "in the slightest danger"?
3347
3348I mean, FFS, just operating a helicopter from a ship is relatively risky.
3349
3350DodgyLandings
3351##	2018-04-24T11:53:22+00:00	
3352if he'd denied using a hammer and the finger was him wiping a smudge off his windscreen or looking at wax he'd just pulled out of his ear - then the evidence would be circumstantial
3353
3354Do you people really think the system works that way? That the Jury would buy this bollocks?
3355
3356And lots of evidence is circumstantial - where did this idea come from that it wasn't useful evidence?
3357
3358DodgyLandings
3359##	2018-04-24T12:28:34+00:00	
3360You guess wrong. Try again.
3361
3362DodgyLandings
3363##	2018-04-24T12:28:07+00:00	
3364You're delusional
3365
3366DodgyLandings
3367##	2018-04-24T16:05:52+00:00	
3368Why are you even on this sub - you're not from the UK, you seem broadly uneducated about the UK and you don't seem to particularly like us. So why not take yourself somewhere else?
3369
3370DodgyLandings
3371##	2018-04-24T16:16:41+00:00	
3372Couldn't give a fuck mate - you're a cunt.
3373
3374DodgyLandings
3375##	2018-04-25T16:42:57+00:00	
3376Yes. A traditional life sentence has a minimum term of prison stay and the rest can be served on license. It's worth remembering that being out on license is no picnic - you're always within the system, can be recalled for almost anything and don't have any real rights under the rehabilitation of offenders act.
3377
3378A whole of life term means you spend the entire sentence inside.
3379
3380DodgyLandings
3381##	2018-04-25T18:10:33+00:00	
3382Oh it's you again. Still a cunt.
3383
3384DodgyLandings
3385##	2018-04-25T18:17:52+00:00	
3386Everything you post is ridiculous nonsense demonstrating a complete lack of knowledge and understanding.
3387
3388DodgyLandings
3389##	2018-04-25T21:39:18+00:00	
3390Oh hey, still a cunt! It's almost impressive, if indescribably dull. Now off you fuck.
3391
3392DodgyLandings
3393##	2018-04-25T21:40:29+00:00	
3394He's already posted this a few times and they got deleted. He's got some pathetic anti UK agenda.
3395
3396DodgyLandings
3397##	2018-04-26T06:30:54+00:00	
3398So fuck Alfie and his rights then?
3399
3400DodgyLandings
3401##	2018-04-26T10:25:58+00:00	
3402There's a limit, though, and they're well past that.
3403
3404I'll admit, after my kid had major (really major) surgery, I walked into ICU to find them on life support. We knew it'd be like that and were prepared - but my lizard brains first reaction was 'what the fuck did you do to my son'. It lasted like 5 seconds, you get a fucking grip and start to deal with the situation you've been handed.
3405
3406I've got sympathy for them, of course, but while I accept their actions are rooted in grief, I think there's a limit to that excuse. They are no longer acting in the best interests of the child and neither are the supporters. The narrative is increasingly less about the child but about them, their rights, their wishes and their beliefs.
3407
3408DodgyLandings
3409##	2018-04-26T10:49:33+00:00	
3410He's good thanks, but we get to do it all again next year!
3411
3412DodgyLandings
3413##	2018-04-26T10:52:24+00:00	
3414Someone else here said that they'll regret this and the more I reflect the more I think how true it is. No matter what, the child is likely to die soon and they've spent all their time running about, playing to a crowd and causing controversy instead of savouring what time they have.
3415
3416Their supporters will move on, the controversy will be forgotten but they'll always be left knowing that they didn't use that precious time in the best way. I truly think that will haunt them. It would haunt me.
3417
3418DodgyLandings
3419##	2018-04-26T11:19:40+00:00	
3420Cheers, appreciated! The care is impeccable and one of the many reasons I find these cases so personally frustrating. I have not a single shred of doubt that the Drs are saying what is best.
3421
3422DodgyLandings
3423##	2018-04-26T18:08:45+00:00	
3424Of all the arguments, this one is pretty poor. We all pay - that's how it works. Some take out more, some take out less.
3425
3426DodgyLandings
3427##	2018-04-26T18:21:39+00:00	
3428How do you find that out?
3429
3430DodgyLandings
3431##	2018-04-26T18:43:36+00:00	
3432Yeah
3433
3434DodgyLandings
3435##	2018-04-26T18:43:53+00:00	
3436Hah, oh yeah - I've NEVER noticed that before. Coo!
3437
3438DodgyLandings
3439##	2018-04-27T08:34:43+00:00	
3440If you're still at that stage in struggling to understand the legal process and why it exists, why not go and read the entire publicity judgement which will answer near enough all your questions.
3441
3442And stop saying murder. It's moronic.
3443
3444DodgyLandings
3445##	2018-04-27T08:51:36+00:00	
3446https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/alder-hey-v-evans.pdf
3447
3448Just so we're absolutely clear:
3449
3450I would consider killing somebody without their consent, or the consent of their guardian if they are incapacitated,
3451
3452The court is acting as their guardian in this sense. The legal system is doing its best to act in the best interests of the child. Not the family, not the parents, not the Drs, not the NHS - the child.
3453
3454denying the family the ability to get treatement somewhere else.
3455
3456THERE IS NO TREATMENT. NONE. ANYWHERE.
3457
3458DodgyLandings
3459##	2018-04-27T10:56:50+00:00	
3460Really? And yet people now have greater freedom day to day than they ever did. Are you telling me you'd rather be working for a King in his Castle?
3461
3462DodgyLandings
3463##	2018-04-27T12:13:46+00:00	
3464Maybe we could enter into some agreement with the EU to allow seamless movement of people between nations.
3465
3466DodgyLandings
3467##	2018-04-27T16:05:16+00:00	
3468No need to indicate whatsoever there.
3469
3470DodgyLandings
3471##	2018-04-27T17:04:13+00:00	
34729 years - absolutely pathetic. Likely to be out in 4.5, but even if not, those kids wouldn't have even left school by the time he completes his sentence.
3473
3474Absolutely beyond lenient considering the aggravating factors (Previous convictions, drug driving and then running from the scene and fighting those attempting to stop him)
3475
3476DodgyLandings
3477##	2018-04-28T09:42:11+00:00	
3478I'm trying to work out how they got his voice so perfectly in my head!
3479
3480DodgyLandings
3481##	2018-04-28T10:55:09+00:00	
3482Fucking outrageous. Hopefully they'll do him and end his career before it's even started. What a complete cunt.
3483
3484DodgyLandings
3485##	2018-04-28T10:56:51+00:00	
3486Honestly, even ignoring the controversy, it's a sadly common thing to leave after the death of a child. I just think it opens up a huge gulf - you'll grieve differently, you'll feel different things should have/shouldn't have been done.
3487
3488DodgyLandings
3489##	2018-04-28T10:59:21+00:00	
3490In a weird way, I've sort of made peace with the fact that Hopkins is literally just making money off being controversial. I don't believe for a minute that she actually thinks half the things she says - it's calculated, manipulative and somewhat devious but it's basically real life trolling.
3491
3492DodgyLandings
3493##	2018-04-28T14:01:51+00:00	
3494whom she accused of being “hellbent” on killing him “to cover something up”.
3495
3496We really need to start taking people to court when they make these wild accusations.
3497
3498DodgyLandings
3499##	2018-04-29T13:46:15+00:00	
3500Broadly, yes, but you should be stating who lives there as part of the policy.
3501
3502I've only ever claimed a few times on contents policies (Normally too expensive to do so once you factor in increased premiums) but I don't recall any onerous conversations about ownership.
3503
3504DodgyLandings
3505##	2018-04-30T06:51:57+00:00	
3506Do you like being made redundant? Because pretending like business problems are 'their' problem is how you get made redundant.
3507
3508DodgyLandings
3509##	2018-04-30T09:41:10+00:00	
3510No. His point is that just because they're human doesn't mean they're not comitting a crime.
3511
3512DodgyLandings
3513##	2018-04-30T09:43:05+00:00	
3514It's only dehumanising in the sense that every title is - banker, criminal, lottery winner are all dehumanising by that standard.
3515
3516What it's not is synonymous with calling people dogs, vultures etc.
3517
3518DodgyLandings
3519##	2018-04-30T09:49:57+00:00	
3520What's the difference? Sincere question.
3521
3522Personally, I don't like the use of "illegals" in serious conversation because I find it far too casual for the subject but I strongly disagree that it's any more dehumansing than illegal immigrant.
3523
3524DodgyLandings
3525##	2018-04-30T09:48:23+00:00	
3526It still reduces their plight and struggle
3527
3528This is the implication that he's conflating illegal immigrants with refugees. While an illegal immigrant may also be(come) a refugee, they are two different things and your average illegal immigrant worker is not.
3529
3530DodgyLandings
3531##	2018-04-30T09:55:48+00:00	
3532'criminal' implies someone who has the attribute of having committed a crime. 'illegal' implies someone who has the attribute of being illegal.
3533
3534Sorry, but you've made a deliberate distinction that doesn't exist. People are referred to as criminals, they are defined as criminals and people will see their persona as that of a criminal. If you're going to argue against the use of "illegals" then you have to first accept that calling somebody a "criminal" is dehumansing in exactly the same way.
3535
3536if you don't see the latter as dehumanising or different from your examples than our views on the matter are so paradigmatically different that there seems to be little point in carrying on this conversation.
3537
3538Fair enough -but you're the one who's sat in the minority, so perhaps a little introspection is in order.
3539
3540DodgyLandings
3541##	2018-04-30T10:04:50+00:00	
3542I don't think anyone said it was - it was just an extreme example of why someone being human isn't an automatic defense to them also being considered something else, or something bad.
3543
3544DodgyLandings
3545##	2018-04-30T10:03:58+00:00	
3546Okay, so should we stop using the term?
3547
3548DodgyLandings
3549##	2018-04-30T10:07:17+00:00	
3550Banker is a job and seen as a thing of expertise
3551
3552Haha, come on. I've seen banker used as an insult and a negative MANY MANY times since the financial crash - but I've never heard someone say it's dehumansing.
3553
3554So what about "criminal" - do we need to stop using that to refer to people in prison?
3555
3556DodgyLandings
3557##	2018-04-30T10:14:50+00:00	
3558Brits who've moved to Australia permanently are called immigrants.
3559
3560Now that's just being deliberately dense. Expat is commonly used to describe retired people and people moving abroad permanently and that's the whole point. British people rarely, if ever, refer to other Brits or themselves as immigrants or migrants despite being almost identical definitions in common use.
3561
3562Expat has few, if any, negative connotations in an immigration sense - whereas immigrant is a somewhat dirty word.
3563
3564DodgyLandings
3565##	2018-04-30T10:43:03+00:00	
3566Ah, so all illegal immigrants have walked thousands of miles now? Come on mate, don't you think you're trying a bit hard here.
3567
3568DodgyLandings
3569##	2018-04-30T10:42:20+00:00	
3570That is absolutely untrue. Someone entering the UK illegally can go on to claim asylum and that includes attempting to gain refugee status.
3571
3572DodgyLandings
3573##	2018-04-30T11:12:18+00:00	
3574I don't think we're in anyway alone, but Brits abroad are fucking idiots. I sincerely do my best to avoid involving myself with them.
3575
3576Last time I went to a British centric resort (which was actually quite nice, to be fair) we got half befriended by a couple. Making friends on holiday isn't my thing, so we kept it to niceties and the odd drink if we happened to be in the same bar.
3577
3578Anyhow, saw his Mrs by herself one day so we said hi where she promptly explained that her husband had gone out on a bender with some other British bloke, got into some kind of fight/altercation and promptly got himself locked up. I mean, what in the fuck?
3579
3580DodgyLandings
3581##	2018-04-30T18:50:19+00:00	
3582The overtaking thing can be a MAJOR problem on a bike or something, too. I remember doing my advanced riding course and we ended up on this stretch of long dual carriageway "roadworks" (Yo know - a long line of cones down the side with not a soul in sight) that was signed 20mph. People were absolutely flying past us including trucks. Even the instructor decided that it was safer to speed up to match the road speed and get off at the next junction.
3583
3584DodgyLandings
3585##	2018-04-30T20:55:19+00:00	
3586they do little work
3587
3588yawn. Do people really believe this? I mean, I don't like the bloke but you don't think being CEO of a huge PLC is easy?
3589
3590DodgyLandings
3591##	2018-04-30T21:06:11+00:00	
3592You think being on the factory floor is more complex than being CEO, or does only physical labour count in your world?
3593
3594DodgyLandings
3595##	2018-04-30T21:18:36+00:00	
3596Haha, you're one of those then. Enjoy whatever menial low paying job you're stuck in.
3597
3598DodgyLandings
3599##	2018-04-30T22:38:49+00:00	
3600No contempt from me for workers, just against that idiot.
3601
3602DodgyLandings
3603##	2018-04-30T22:38:11+00:00	
3604Point is that I can grab a bunch of people off the street and teach them to be binmen in a matter of hours. Can't do that with a senior management position.
3605
3606I have no qualms with menial workers - been there and done it. However, your attitude shows you as someone with limited experience and exposure to senior work. And with that attitude you won't progress.
3607
3608DodgyLandings
3609##	2018-04-30T22:40:54+00:00	
3610Capitalism is probably the answer but you don't even begin to explain what you do. Besides which, it's a total non sequitur to my post which was merely stating that being CEO of a huge PLC is not a simple job.
3611
3612DodgyLandings
3613##	2018-05-01T07:25:56+00:00	
3614Silly references aside, what's this got to do with criminality? It's not even to do with class or wealth, really. Coupe went to a comprehensive. It's about training, experience and skill. I just find these threads all very dull - we can still think he's a dickhead without pretending the entirety of his day involves checking his bank account.
3615
3616DodgyLandings
3617##	2018-05-01T07:27:32+00:00	
3618Define "beneath him"? What level did you work at?
3619
3620I've worked closely with boards and most Directors are very busy, which is unsurprising given how much responsibility they have.
3621
3622DodgyLandings
3623##	2018-05-01T08:17:04+00:00	
3624I'd still like to work at a more senior level in future, but I stepped down from my most senior role reporting directly to the board at a decent size company (MD knew my kids names kind of role). I felt like I had no life whatsoever, I literally couldn't spend my wages. One day I counted the phone calls and emails I'd had and decided I was happier before and left.
3625
3626DodgyLandings
3627##	2018-05-01T08:21:34+00:00	
3628Indeed!
3629
3630DodgyLandings
3631##	2018-05-01T08:51:46+00:00	
3632Except without a decent board there probably wouldn't be any jobs.
3633
3634DodgyLandings
3635##	2018-05-01T09:43:46+00:00	
3636https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/8b5456/uk_starting_salaries_for_permanent_jobs_rise_at/dx4bml4/
3637
3638shrug - I'm guessing you weren't all that senior, no?
3639
3640DodgyLandings
3641##	2018-05-01T10:04:27+00:00	
3642Haha, he deleted all his posts. Class.
3643
3644DodgyLandings
3645##	2018-05-01T10:27:41+00:00	
3646I deleted my more detailed post about it because I can't be arsed with the inevitable responses, but I gave up a three figure job because it was just too stressful. I earn a lot less at the minute, but I get to see my kid twice a day now instead of just on weekends when I'm catching up on e-mails.
3647
3648Senior management can be, and often are a lot of things - many of them bad/toxic. But pretending they don't do anything is just asinine and, as you say, it riles me that people here are so quick to believe that.
3649
3650DodgyLandings
3651##	2018-05-01T10:42:39+00:00	
3652It's akin to the whole "Pay nurses footballers wages" thing. Personally, I can't stand football and I do think that some of the wages are bordering on sickening and agree that Nurses should be paid more ideally.
3653
3654BUT, the fact remains that are very few people good enough to play in competitive football and very few spaces to do so. I'm grabbing / making up these numbers quickly because, as I say, it's not my thing but, there's what, 100 teams in the EPL, Championship and Leagues 1 & 2. That's 25 a squad = 2500 players. Ranging from ridiculous money right down to relatively modest middle manager money in League 2. By comparison, there were 287000 nurses in the NHS alone - plus private hospitals, care homes etc.
3655
3656Not only that, but footballers get paid by their fans, sponsorship etc.
3657
3658DodgyLandings
3659##	2018-05-01T12:31:49+00:00	
3660And off you fuck to prison forever you utterly unfixable cunt.
3661
3662DodgyLandings
3663##	2018-05-01T17:13:46+00:00	
3664On one hand, it does seem strange to force a company/person to work on something they don't want to (whatever the reason).
3665
3666Is it strange? We force companies (and therefore people) to do things ALL the time - provide safe working environments, have fair hiring policies, provide disabled access and so on.
3667
3668DodgyLandings
3669##	2018-05-01T17:12:38+00:00	
3670Well, case law is the basis of our common law system.
3671
3672DodgyLandings
3673##	2018-05-01T17:14:35+00:00	
3674Judges. Few laws are written so rigidly as to have no room for interpretation - for things like it's usually in the realms of what a "reasonable" person would find offensive.
3675
3676DodgyLandings
3677##	2018-05-01T17:32:26+00:00	
3678Yep. I'll confess it is super convenient as a user, but they are sketchy as fuck. Also, what I find telling is that whenever I speak to drivers they've almost always only worked there for <6 months.
3679
3680The service side can, and should, be easily replicated in a way that fits in with perfectly reasonable legal requirements - not one that fights them all the way.
3681
3682DodgyLandings
3683##	2018-05-01T18:36:30+00:00	
3684There's more to it than that, though. All big companies have their scandals and unfair bits, but Uber seems to go out of their way to outright break the law or skirt around it.
3685
3686DodgyLandings
3687##	2018-05-02T07:54:51+00:00	
3688Haha, wow! And he actually deleted his entire account because he got called out on making up a silly story.
3689
3690DodgyLandings
3691##	2018-05-02T10:44:08+00:00	
3692Because it's 'more than I'm getting', ergo a classic case of people being more than happy for more taxes so long as it's not them being taxed.
3693
3694DodgyLandings
3695##	2018-05-02T13:48:47+00:00	
3696So where did you drag 50k from?
3697
3698DodgyLandings
3699##	2018-05-02T14:15:08+00:00	
3700Y'know - because I'm an idiot I engaged in quite a bit of debate about this case. In particular with Americans on some other platforms. One thing I started to notice, time and time again - here and in other places, was that those on the "Alfies Army" side almost NEVER mentioned his best interests.
3701
3702It's something I became incredibly sensitive to - it was always "why can the government do this?", "what about the parents rights?", "blah blah socialism" etc etc but almost never about what was best for that child.
3703
3704Thankfully my child is fine and under control, but at one point they weren't. And we had to have some frank discussions with medical professionals about the best way forward, including pre-natally. The ONLY questions we ever asked were about them, their quality of life, what they would experience, what they'd be able to enjoy. Never once did we consider what was best for us and I didn't care - I just wanted to know that their life would be good.
3705
3706DodgyLandings
3707##	2018-05-02T14:20:03+00:00	
3708I don't particularly like the concept of Shariah (or any shadow legal system), but I don't see how it's relevant. This wasn't a "shadow court" or people keeping themselves to themselves, this was people going against the NHS, using the British legal system to do so.
3709
3710DodgyLandings
3711##	2018-05-02T14:52:48+00:00	
3712One of my old bosses remarked that he didn't understand he didn't understand someone calling in after 'Being on the loo all night'. He said 'Surely they're just tired now and could make it in'. People are very odd about illness
3713
3714DodgyLandings
3715##	2018-05-02T16:07:38+00:00	
3716That's somewhat a matter of semantics. It's arbitration because that's why they're limited to legally, but it isn't an arbitration service in the sense that it's designed to resolve disputes before court etc like something such as ADR.
3717
3718DodgyLandings
3719##	2018-05-02T18:11:40+00:00	
3720I don't like that either, particularly. I respect their right to exist and understand why, but generally I dislike any type of religious involvement in legal matters.
3721
3722DodgyLandings
3723##	2018-05-02T18:52:10+00:00	
3724God I fucking hate religion.
3725
3726DodgyLandings
3727##	2018-05-02T21:03:15+00:00	
3728You think Russia stood arm with arm with us? My friend, you need a history lesson.
3729
3730DodgyLandings
3731##	2018-05-03T16:09:00+00:00	
3732And even in that example, it's not symmetrical. I'm not arguing against symmetry here, but legally there's more to this. For example, there are different laws for women working factories - they HAVE to take 4 weeks off after birth
3733
3734DodgyLandings
3735##	2018-05-04T17:05:13+00:00	
3736Fuck knows, but I'd sincerely support a parent in whatever actions they took against a person like that at the time.
3737
3738No way he'd be leaving my house outside of an ambulance.
3739
3740And before the cries of whatever, this shit is why. Call the Police, do the right thing, and watch this cunt walk away with barley a care in the world.
3741
3742DodgyLandings
3743##	2018-05-04T17:11:07+00:00	
3744Well, im glad you're honest. But it's shit like this that makes me realise how fucking deluded you are. Jesus.
3745
3746DodgyLandings
3747##	2018-05-04T17:19:58+00:00	
3748Sure, but that doesn't absolve the state of a responsibility to protect the most vulnerable.
3749
3750DodgyLandings
3751##	2018-05-04T17:52:06+00:00	
3752Right, so it's better to let them starve?
3753
3754DodgyLandings
3755##	2018-05-04T18:02:26+00:00	
3756What just like the olden times when the poor faired so well. The Victorian era must be porn for you.
3757
3758DodgyLandings
3759##	2018-05-04T18:22:51+00:00	
3760Wow.
3761
3762DodgyLandings
3763##	2018-05-04T18:31:17+00:00	
3764So why do you want to undo that? Why do you think taking government out of the equation won't send us right back there? How well do countries with collapsing or collapse government's fare? The problem is your ideal is no more rooted in reality than communism. And what I find particularly odd is that you then decide you're Tory.
3765
3766DodgyLandings
3767##	2018-05-04T18:37:18+00:00	
3768They can't be that talented and experienced then. I know 2nd liners making over 30k in The City!
3769
3770I agree it's fairly steep, though.
3771
3772DodgyLandings
3773##	2018-05-04T18:36:27+00:00	
3774Yet you think human behaviour can be relied on to protect the most vulnerable? See how that doesn't make any sense.
3775
3776DodgyLandings
3777##	2018-05-04T18:41:14+00:00	
3778I think it should be obvious that most people like the idea of doing the right thing, but few follow through. Drop tax and people buy shiner cars, not donate to charity. And I include myself in that.
3779
3780DodgyLandings
3781##	2018-05-04T20:23:12+00:00	
3782Or not :)
3783
3784DodgyLandings
3785##	2018-05-05T15:49:55+00:00	
3786Despite it being ideal for basically all my hobbies, I've done the right thing and stayed home with the family. Did some gardening, too, so at least I'm earning some brownie points today!
3787
3788DodgyLandings
3789##	2018-05-07T06:20:31+00:00	
3790Quite, I barely know where to start. They can't arrest on suspicion of, for a start, so unless they literally see someone comitting a crime they have absolutely no power of detention. As such, you'd be well within your rights to robustly defend yourself against them.
3791
3792So why not call them what they are - security guards.
3793
3794DodgyLandings
3795##	2018-05-07T07:03:46+00:00	
3796Basically, you've never had a proper brew. Don't bother trying in the US, though, you'll need to come here for that.
3797
3798DodgyLandings
3799##	2018-05-07T08:43:19+00:00	
3800So?
3801
3802DodgyLandings
3803##	2018-05-07T08:52:48+00:00	
3804Top piloting
3805
3806DodgyLandings
3807##	2018-05-07T09:58:56+00:00	
3808Morane Saulnier MS 315E
3809
3810https://afors.com/index.php?page=adview&adid=38210&imid=2
3811
3812DodgyLandings
3813##	2018-05-07T10:07:04+00:00	
3814At least they didn't say Cessna!
3815
3816DodgyLandings
3817##	2018-05-07T13:00:30+00:00	
3818I don't think it could be classed as dangerous driving on a closed circuit.
3819
3820Certainly some crap driving, for sure.
3821
3822DodgyLandings
3823##	2018-05-07T13:04:10+00:00	
3824I honestly wonder how somebody can find enough energy to give enough of a fuck to right such a dull article.
3825
3826Fuck me mate, we just want a few random days off to chill out - I couldn't give a fuck about public holidays vs bank holidays. We have our thing, there's no need to change it whatsoever.
3827
3828DodgyLandings
3829##	2018-05-07T13:06:53+00:00	
3830Live by the sword, eh.
3831
3832DodgyLandings
3833##	2018-05-07T15:57:48+00:00	
3834The road traffic act is specifically to cover the public highway and, by extension, public places such as supermarket car parks.
3835
3836You can't do an F1 driver under it, so I can't see why you'd be able to do this person while the road is (big presumption here) closed to the public for this event.
3837
3838DodgyLandings
3839##	2018-05-07T17:35:30+00:00	
3840Perhaps, possibly under health and safety legislation. Either way, I was responding to the specific mention of dangerous driving.
3841
3842DodgyLandings
3843##	2018-05-07T17:55:32+00:00	
3844Except for the clear lack of unlawful force or violence. There's no intent, nor any force. Can you find any precedet of a similar prosecution?
3845
3846It's clearly a bad piece of driving, but is in no way assualt and I don't know why you're doubling down on it. Nobody is going to arrest for assault, CPS sure as hell aren't going to proceed with an assault charge and any half competent barrister would wipe the floor with it if they did.
3847
3848DodgyLandings
3849##	2018-05-07T18:22:07+00:00	
3850Yes, I'm well aware thanks - your problem is conflating anything that causes injury or potential injury as unlawful force or violence.
3851
3852Like I say, find me some precedent of assault being used as a catch all like this.
3853
3854DodgyLandings
3855##	2018-05-07T19:31:06+00:00	
3856Brought a house that we figured needed a bit of tarting up, some plastering etc.
3857
3858Well, one thing led to another and eventually I had to call it and did a full renovation. I mean, quite literally, I don't think there's anything that was there before you could touch and not much underneath apart from the bricks and (most) joists. New windows, new kitchen, new bathroom, new wiring, new plumbing, new suspended floors and joists, ripped out every bit of old lath and plaster and replaced with board. Countless other fixes and every finish (skirting, door frames, doors etc).
3859
3860I'd literally never put up a shelf before (though I've done a lot of mechanical work) so the learning curve was steep and of course I had to get some trade help (mostly mates, though, to do the legal bits)! Amazing fun, though. I'd do it again tomorrow but it was a tough year!
3861
3862DodgyLandings
3863##	2018-05-07T19:38:55+00:00	
3864While it worked out amazing and have zero regrets (I did have to take a loan, but we kept the price down hugley by doing the bulk ourselves and calling in a million favours and pleas for help) there's no way I would have touched it if I truly understood what would be required.
3865
3866The first few weeks were a bit daft - lots of denial and scratching the surface, but once we committed you just go on blind Faith that eventually it'll look like a house again.
3867
3868DodgyLandings
3869##	2018-05-07T20:55:48+00:00	
3870Well, aren't you a cunt.
3871
3872DodgyLandings
3873##	2018-05-08T08:05:52+00:00	
3874Not with dangerous driving they wouldn't.
3875
3876DodgyLandings
3877##	2018-05-08T08:13:33+00:00	
3878Man, why is Reddit so hard work? I already said they could be in breach of something, just unlikely to be the Road Traffic Act / Dangerous Driving.
3879
3880DodgyLandings
3881##	2018-05-08T08:20:28+00:00	
3882Fair, sorry :)
3883
3884DodgyLandings
3885##	2018-05-08T09:19:44+00:00	
3886Yeah, I think a lot of car-washes are just good old fashioned illegitimate businesses. No tax, no insurance, cash in hand etc.
3887
3888I sometimes wonder if the land owner even knows - they seem to have a habit of popping up and disappearing overnight around here.
3889
3890DodgyLandings
3891##	2018-05-08T09:23:29+00:00	
3892Self-building is very difficult in this country as most plots of land are too large for individuals and are sold off to developers. Councils could instead parcel out smaller plots and give individuals the ability to build their own house, again providing competition to the big guys. I'd personally love this opportunity and would happily fork out a fortune if I got to design my own house and specify its construction, but right now this is only really possible by buying an existing run-down house and demolishing it first.
3893
3894As someone in the same boat, with the same hopes and dreams, can you imagine how awesome a new big development would be where every single house was unique and actually built to the spec of somebody who wanted to love there?
3895
3896I'd so love to self build one day
3897
3898DodgyLandings
3899##	2018-05-08T11:22:16+00:00	
3900Spending a few weeks riding in Europe and then riding home was one of the most depressing journeys I've done. More aggregation in 50 UK miles than the entire Europe trip.
3901
3902DodgyLandings
3903##	2018-05-08T12:58:19+00:00	
3904Depends what you mean by "large quantities". Obviously it gets cheaper the more you take on, but bear in mind that it'd be a build with no profit requirement. I bet anything less than a fully managed main contractor build would be relatively doable. Building a house isn't that expensive, really - land is the killer. Every time I've done the sums you get a lot more for your money than buying the equivalent and new builds in particular tend to be expensive.
3905
3906I'm in no way saying this is truly achievable on a grand scale, I just think it'd be an awesome thing.
3907
3908DodgyLandings
3909##	2018-05-08T13:21:04+00:00	
3910But the economy of scale pulls into the profits one can make, not the cost of a house. The cost of buying a house is predominantly based upon market value, not how much it cost to build - so long as you can beat the market value then you're winning.
3911
3912DodgyLandings
3913##	2018-05-08T15:39:22+00:00	
3914Is it that straight forward though? We gave a lot of quarter to terrorists and let a lot of folk off some very big hooks.
3915
3916Seems to me that drawing some lines under some of these messes would be the right thing to do.
3917
3918DodgyLandings
3919##	2018-05-08T15:40:50+00:00	
3920Generally good advice for Nottingham.
3921
3922DodgyLandings
3923##	2018-05-08T15:54:06+00:00	
3924Let's face it, for most of us, simply being doxed on Reddit would be problematic.
3925
3926Although I've got to say, those chats are particularly disturbing really.
3927
3928DodgyLandings
3929##	2018-05-09T20:29:30+00:00	
3930What are you on about?
3931
3932DodgyLandings
3933##	2018-05-10T11:35:20+00:00	
3934Yeah it does. They're fucking cunts and by choice.
3935
3936DodgyLandings
3937##	2018-05-10T11:34:37+00:00	
3938I think this community is one of those 'Has to be seen to be believed' thing. Like, all the stories are true. It's absolutely mental.
3939
3940DodgyLandings
3941##	2018-05-10T14:12:07+00:00	
3942So glad other people are saying that. I honestly stopped reading, found myself flashing back to my kids birth. Beyond grim.
3943
3944DodgyLandings
3945##	2018-05-11T10:29:15+00:00	
3946https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/80chok/why_dont_we_do_a_major_cleanup_to_get_rid_of_bad/
3947
3948Splendid. I wonder what it's like to live with a single digit IQ.
3949
3950DodgyLandings
3951##	2018-05-11T10:31:00+00:00	
3952Haha, you beat me to my edit. It's a full house, isn't it!
3953
3954DodgyLandings
3955##	2018-05-13T15:55:30+00:00	
3956I suspect they've got some serious issues. I'd put cash on them having some body image problems...
3957
3958DodgyLandings
3959##	2018-05-13T17:23:03+00:00	
3960No. While driving experience is initially important, it's really 'maturity' that's the killer. Fact is, young drivers make up a disproportionate number of serious road accidents and that's what raises the risk. At 25 you're unlikely to have the same attitude to risk as a 17 year old, nor the same pressures and that will be reflected. Once you've got a few years NCB and driving experience it'll balance out I'm sure.
3961
3962DodgyLandings
3963##	2018-05-14T17:55:57+00:00	
3964I've massively withdrawn from it, personally. I used to follow all news and politics very closely but it just depresses me and, like you, this kind of shit is why.
3965
3966DodgyLandings
3967##	2018-05-14T22:20:38+00:00	
3968The fuck? That whole thing sounds like an utter mess, but what the hell was he thinking when he walked away and left him there?
3969
3970DodgyLandings
3971##	2018-05-14T22:51:59+00:00	
3972Yeah, go fuck yourself ya cunt.
3973
3974DodgyLandings
3975##	2018-05-15T06:01:50+00:00	
3976Where, exactly, are you seeing this? Most people are indifferent, some just hate the Royals generally but a lot are just excited by another Royal event.
3977
3978DodgyLandings
3979##	2018-05-16T19:13:47+00:00	
3980I hate the overuse of this term, but I sincerely believe the bloke is on the verge of literally having narcissistic personality disorder or similar.
3981
3982I think he genuinely, and sincerely, believes he's smarter than everyone else and I also truly believe he literally only gives a fuck about himself.
3983
3984He's just an awful, awful person and I'm still incredulous that people unironically think it's a good thing he's president. They're one of the few groups of people I can't even be arsed to debate with - I lump them with conspiracy theorists, people who are just so far gone, so far apart from reality that there's just no helping them.
3985
3986DodgyLandings
3987##	2018-05-17T06:35:44+00:00	
3988Calling it their job is a bit fucking rich. Most of them probably wouldn't be near the military if it weren't for the all out war going on.
3989
3990They put themselves forward and lost their lives just so a sanctimonious cunt like you can shrug and say they were doing their job.
3991
3992DodgyLandings
3993##	2018-05-17T06:39:00+00:00	
3994Virgin piggy back off BT for ADSL. It was more likely to be contention rather than throttling as such, but a shit service either way.
3995
3996DodgyLandings
3997##	2018-05-17T07:09:39+00:00	
3998Really - he thinks it's something we shouldn't remember and have any pride in?
3999
4000DodgyLandings
4001##	2018-05-17T07:20:14+00:00	
4002It's not the killing people are proud of.
4003
4004DodgyLandings
4005##	2018-05-17T16:41:29+00:00	
4006Indeed. Fact is, pub culture is nowhere near what it was. Pubs are shutting left right and centre - as ever the ones who change will survive.
4007
4008And don't get me wrong, I love me a quiet old fashioned real ale pub. But how often do I go - a couple of times a year, max.
4009
4010Drink driving is becoming more culturally unacceptable (good!), The trope of the bloke ditching the family on an evening for a few pints is also somewhat dieing out, people stay home a lot more now.
4011
4012If you want to go under, be my guest - ban whoever you want. But as far as I can tell, few pubs have that luxury.
4013
4014DodgyLandings
4015##	2018-05-17T17:30:32+00:00	
4016Seriously, I've made this point so many times - you could fuck up some serious shit in a lot of the country and be left to your own devices for a sickingly long time.
4017
4018DodgyLandings
4019##	2018-05-17T19:06:54+00:00	
4020Which is daft. It's exactly like curing cancer by using chemotherapy and surgery.
4021
4022We'd love to stop cancer at it's source, but until that day we need the options.
4023
4024DodgyLandings
4025##	2018-05-17T19:09:13+00:00	
4026Dunno about you but I find this dismissive mocking absolutely, fucking dull. Places like London absolutely have a high status for impact, but if you've got weapons and you sit down and plan it there are dozens upon dozens of very soft targets. Stabbing a couple of people in London may attract more attention than in Devon, but take out a busload before the Police have turned up and you're going to call it mission accomplished.
4027
4028DodgyLandings
4029##	2018-05-18T07:44:28+00:00	
4030Where did you get 250 from out of curiosity? I'd have thought she'd be on way more
4031
4032DodgyLandings
4033##	2018-05-18T17:16:59+00:00	
4034Except that's patently untrue.
4035
4036Source: The fucking court case this thread is based on.
4037
4038DodgyLandings
4039##	2018-05-18T18:06:07+00:00	
4040The problem is they had a reason. And good reasons at that.
4041
4042Source: The fucking court case you absolute melon
4043
4044DodgyLandings
4045##	2018-05-18T18:18:04+00:00	
4046We don't have the concept of 'reading your rights', which doesn't really help make your argument not look stupid.
4047
4048DodgyLandings
4049##	2018-05-18T18:20:27+00:00	
4050Pretty sure I got all of those others as news alerts too.
4051
4052I agree the Royal ones are irritating, but as mentioned, somebody must be reading them.
4053
4054DodgyLandings
4055##	2018-05-18T18:34:45+00:00	
4056Because there was no wrongful, or unlawful arrest.
4057
4058How, exactly, do you think Police could hunt down criminals if they were not legally empowered to stop with reasonable suspicion?
4059
4060This isn't people randomly being stopped and ID'd while walking to the shops, the Police were actively searching for somebody and this guy matched the description. They acted well within the law.
4061
4062DodgyLandings
4063##	2018-05-18T19:10:03+00:00	
4064Firstly, that's not at all what I said, although his action could be deemed to be criminal that's not the point and not the argument anyone has made.
4065
4066He resisted a LAWFUL arrest. That's the point, and that's his downfall and why force was used.
4067
4068DodgyLandings
4069##	2018-05-18T21:11:56+00:00	
4070No. But you either know that, are trolling or are so ridiculously dense that you're just not worth dealing with. Idiot.
4071
4072DodgyLandings
4073##	2018-05-18T21:13:25+00:00	
4074They've gotta be fucking with us at this point.
4075
4076I don't think they are, but it'll depress me too much to remember people this stupid get to vote.
4077
4078DodgyLandings
4079##	2018-05-18T21:14:30+00:00	
4080And therefore would either be freed after investigation or walk free from court.
4081
4082Being innocent of a crime doesn't automatically preclude you from being SUSPECTED of a crime.
4083
4084DodgyLandings
4085##	2018-05-20T12:37:21+00:00	
4086Bout 6 months I reckon.
4087
4088DodgyLandings
4089##	2018-05-20T12:38:10+00:00	
4090Urgh, you weren't wrong. And the next couple weren't any better.
4091
4092DodgyLandings
4093##	2018-05-20T12:45:43+00:00	
4094Please do.
4095
4096DodgyLandings
4097##	2018-05-20T12:50:53+00:00	
4098It's also not a particularly smart target. Both William and Harry are generally well liked, both have shown a willingness to 'do' and both are seen to be fairly in touch or at least relatable in some way.
4099
4100Combined with the whole Diana thing I don't think you're suddenly going to see a critical mass of protest against them.
4101
4102To be frank, I think they've done more good with their lives than most people. Yes, that comes from being born into a position of privilege, but that's also the reason you and I aren't eating rice and dirty water in the desert.
4103
4104And I'm not even pro Monarchy, I just find it hard to be a staunch Republican when most of them are just so damn pathetic. North fucking Korea indeed.
4105
4106DodgyLandings
4107##	2018-05-20T12:57:10+00:00	
4108Oh sorry I thought you were going to show me evidence of Britain engaging in it yesterday
4109
4110DodgyLandings
4111##	2018-05-20T13:04:54+00:00	
4112Hahahahahahhahababahahahabababababababahbaabababababhahhahhahahahhaha
4113
4114Fuck me. Try getting even the most basic grounding in meteorology before spouting your utter nonsense.
4115
4116DodgyLandings
4117##	2018-05-20T13:17:44+00:00	
4118Yeah, but what does that even mean? I regularly specify equipment worth more than I'll see in a decade - so what? There's no comparison.
4119
4120Even the average UK wedding costs around the average years salary.
4121
4122DodgyLandings
4123##	2018-05-20T13:25:57+00:00	
4124Have you looked at a Skew-T yet?
4125
4126DodgyLandings
4127##	2018-05-20T13:45:32+00:00	
4128I'm not trying to deny the broad existence of the field, no.
4129
4130I am telling you however, that contrails are contrails. And you have zero evidence, and no knowledge or understanding whatsoever, to claim geoengineering has any bearing on our current weather.
4131
4132I do look forward to your detailed analysis, complete with met charts though
4133
4134DodgyLandings
4135##	2018-05-20T14:02:06+00:00	
4136I'm not wrong.
4137
4138But thanks for admitting you know absolutely nothing about either field.
4139
4140DodgyLandings
4141##	2018-05-20T14:13:17+00:00	
4142I can't say I follow the field enough to tell you whether any scientific experiments are or have been conducted.
4143
4144But, if you're talking about contrails being Chemtrails. You're wrong.
4145
4146And no, the current weather is not being affected by any kind of geoengineering.
4147
4148Do you have any proof that it is?
4149
4150DodgyLandings
4151##	2018-05-20T14:24:01+00:00	
4152Haha, is that the best you can do. Well done, you got me, combustion produces exhaust gases - well done you.
4153
4154American Airlines aren't seeding clouds either.
4155
4156DodgyLandings
4157##	2018-05-20T14:33:20+00:00	
4158No, you're a mentalist because you think the technology is being utilised en masse in a huge conspiracy to massively alter global weather patterns. That right there, is stupid.
4159
4160DodgyLandings
4161##	2018-05-20T14:38:11+00:00	
4162Until you show me the evidence that it's the cause of yesterdays weather, yes.
4163
4164DodgyLandings
4165##	2018-05-20T14:52:46+00:00	
4166See, that's not evidence
4167
4168DodgyLandings
4169##	2018-05-20T15:00:42+00:00	
4170Neither is any of that. See the problem here?
4171
4172You find some empirical evidence that this is being undertaken on a huge scale, by air carriers and affected the weather yesterday and I'll pay attention.
4173
4174DodgyLandings
4175##	2018-05-20T15:09:52+00:00	
4176Oh, I'll take your word for it then. You with admittedly no aviation or met knowledge whatsoever.
4177
4178Laters.
4179
4180DodgyLandings
4181##	2018-05-20T18:26:38+00:00	
4182What did the Royals have to do with austerity?
4183
4184DodgyLandings
4185##	2018-05-21T18:50:37+00:00	
4186No need to ever release them as far as I can see.
4187
4188DodgyLandings
4189##	2018-05-21T19:29:40+00:00	
4190I can not fucking stand that shit. To be honest, I find it an absolute fucking intrusion when anyone randomly knocks my door.
4191
4192Even worse is the bullshit sales tactics - 'Oh, yeah, I was just talking to Jeff at number 9'. Good for you, mate, I barely know the names of all the people who live in this house - you think I give a fuck who Jeff is or how pressured he felt to sign up for your shit.
4193
4194DodgyLandings
4195##	2018-05-22T07:46:01+00:00	
4196Probably.
4197
4198DodgyLandings
4199##	2018-05-22T22:41:28+00:00	
4200Haha, without being mean that was my first thought. Dude, you've got to want this.
4201
4202DodgyLandings
4203##	2018-05-23T10:18:05+00:00	
4204Absolutely. I know someone seriously smart people who went to Oxford - people who are now getting headhunted and asked for by name by global organisations and they found it tough.
4205
4206I know I wouldn't have stood a chance.
4207
4208DodgyLandings
4209##	2018-05-23T10:58:11+00:00	
4210If I'm on handsfree at the time and can Carey on doing whatever I'm doing I tend to just waste their time for a bit before launching into a barrage of abuse.
4211
4212I keep meaning to run with it and figure out the scam, but last time I tried to get any details they were clearly fake and when I said I was Googling it they hung up.
4213
4214DodgyLandings
4215##	2018-05-23T11:30:36+00:00	
4216Absolutely - one of my absolute favorite things about our garden is how private it is. We considered moving the patio to another part which gets more sun, but didn't because it's more overlooked.
4217
4218DodgyLandings
4219##	2018-05-23T11:55:22+00:00	
4220It can still be taken into account for sentencing - it just means they didn't commit murder, so they'll be sentenced according to the guidelines of the actual conviction
4221
4222DodgyLandings
4223##	2018-05-23T12:02:41+00:00	
4224Here we go:
4225
4226By reason of your acquittal on Count 1, the charge of murder, I do not sentence you for the fact that as a result of these injuries Mark van Dongen chose to take his own life. I do sentence you for the harm which you inflicted, the catastrophic and life changing injuries, the fifteen months of acute physical and psychological suffering of Mark van Dongen
4227
4228Factors increasing the seriousness of your offending are the ongoing effects upon the victim,
4229
4230And point V:
4231
4232Your attack caused catastrophic and life changing injuries to Mark van Dongen, fifteen months of intense physical and psychological suffering;
4233
4234So although the death itself isn't mentioned specifically as part of the sentencing, it's clearly taken into account what kind of psychological state he was in - i.e., suicidal.
4235
4236DodgyLandings
4237##	2018-05-23T16:09:05+00:00	
4238Finally. It's always been an absolute joke - I cant think of any other service that's been allowed to get away with advertising something they can't deliver.
4239
4240DodgyLandings
4241##	2018-05-23T17:54:58+00:00	
4242Absolute complete bollocks. The ISP 'own' the infra and can control the speed all the way to their demarcation. Business lines all have proper SLA's and residential ones could to.
4243
4244DodgyLandings
4245##	2018-05-23T19:12:16+00:00	
4246No they do not. For a start, ISP's like TalkTalk, Plusnet, etc don't own any infrastructure, they use BT's.
4247
4248The only two infrastructure providers are BT, and Virgin
4249
4250Yeah, I'm well aware of how the infrastructure is set up - you'll note the quote marks around owned. Contractually, the ISP are responsible for everything beyond the demarcation - I don't care who physically owns a cable any more than I care whether Amazon use DHL or FedEx. Point is, it's their problem and they shouldn't be promising what they can't deliver.
4251
4252> The Cabling from the Wiring Cab to your house is owned by the local council and/or property owner, not by the ISP.
4253
4254No, no and some more no. Where the hell did you get this from? BT (via OpenReach), for example, own everything up to the master socket. Before that, there problem (Though, as I say, strictly you could include the router) and after that it's yours. I don't know where on Earth you've pulled the council into this from - when did you last see your council working up a telegraph pole?
4255
4256> If you buy a fibre package, then the ISP can guarantee a fibre connection to the Cab, but not from the cab to your house which is where most of the fall off for speed comes from, the majority of UK homes have copper cabling at that stage which can completely kills any sense of speed, especially if the cabling hasn't been upgraded at all.
4257
4258I kind of dunno where to go with this. You're right in that most stuff is FTTC, but again, it's immaterial. For a start, those shitty old cables can often support decent speeds (I, personally, get a fantastic and solid 70mbps through telegraphed 1930's stuff). If the ISP can't guarantee a speed ot my house then they shouldn't be advertising that they can.
4259
4260DodgyLandings
4261##	2018-05-23T19:33:45+00:00	
4262You know fibre IS broadband?
4263
4264DodgyLandings
4265##	2018-05-23T20:33:23+00:00	
4266I dunno, but it's survived for a long time so I suspect the word will keep turning and we'll cope one way or another.
4267
4268DodgyLandings
4269##	2018-05-24T06:03:12+00:00	
4270Sorry, but no it doesn't.
4271
4272DodgyLandings
4273##	2018-05-24T07:12:15+00:00	
4274You may be a middle man, but my contract is with you which is the point. That's why OpenReach won't speak or deal with me.
4275
4276You may not like the fact it's your responsibility, but that's the nature of reselling. Just because you didn't lay it, you're the one reselling the service and I'm only interested in the lower contract - your upper contract is not my business and not my problem.
4277
4278Regarding speed, this whole thread is about advertising speeds and why it's a joke. If you don't then that's fine.
4279
4280DodgyLandings
4281##	2018-05-24T07:16:11+00:00	
4282It was just an analogy that you don't generally get to advertise and sell what you can't actually deliver. Again, I'm well aware of the technical complexities but they're really quite immaterial - the core point is people shouldn't be promising what they can't deliver.
4283
4284DodgyLandings
4285##	2018-05-24T07:42:00+00:00	
4286Well, there's multiple facets to this and I haven't had chance to read up on the ruling. You've got advertising, but you've also got the actual packages. BT actually seem quite in this respect, in that have a lower guarantee - I know back in the day it was common to have packages based predominantly on speed but mabe that's dying out.
4287
4288Then, beyond the infrastructure you also have sheer contention which is completely in the ISPs hands. It's not like Virgin are immune from these issues despite having solid infra - my old connection was dire at peak times because their backhaul was shit. And that's ALL on them overselling.
4289
4290DodgyLandings
4291##	2018-05-24T16:18:24+00:00	
4292Jesus Wept, half the whinging about renting is lack of security. You had a contract, maybe you should have read it and clarified.
4293
4294What's wrong with talking to people.
4295
4296DodgyLandings
4297##	2018-05-24T21:21:12+00:00	
4298No. So not in the slightest that I cant even begin to describe - surely this a good thing?
4299
4300They could be living with their other half, could be working away, could be just looking after it after inheriting it or anything. Why does it worry you?
4301
4302DodgyLandings
4303##	2018-05-24T21:23:36+00:00	
4304It's hard to imagine how somebody could be such a reprehensible, pathetic, useless human being. These people have no business continuing to breathe.
4305
4306DodgyLandings
4307##	2018-05-25T09:14:07+00:00	
4308I think we need to stop saying this. Theyre owned by the same group, and there is crossover but Screwfix isn't just a different version of BandQ - it's very much it's own thing. You wouldn't say buying a Porsche is the same as buying a Skoda.
4309
4310DodgyLandings
4311##	2018-05-25T09:17:52+00:00	
4312The fuck is this?
4313
4314DodgyLandings
4315##	2018-05-25T09:41:42+00:00	
4316Hah, not deliberate - I meant we collectively. I feel like at some point people learnt about the Kingfisher group and got all excited about the relationship
4317
4318DodgyLandings
4319##	2018-05-25T09:51:28+00:00	
4320Sure, but the point is that Screwfix ISNT BandQ. Different stock, different prices, different offers, different market
4321
4322DodgyLandings
4323##	2018-05-25T12:12:28+00:00	
4324Definitely some convergence now, but broadly BandQ is advertising to the average home DIYer - they have things like OAP discount days. Screwfix, broadly, is more geared up to the trade (Especially plumbing and electrical) and serious DIYer.
4325
4326I mean, it's obviously all under the DIY banner which is only ever going to be so broad
4327
4328DodgyLandings
4329##	2018-05-25T12:14:08+00:00	
4330I brought some proper job floating shelves from Etsy - awesome things, solid wood but the mounts were 4 individual huge bars with threads to go into rawl plugs. Getting those straight was an absolute fucking mission
4331
4332DodgyLandings
4333##	2018-05-25T12:18:24+00:00	
4334All very cute, but completely ignores the reality for most working families.
4335
4336DodgyLandings
4337##	2018-05-25T12:53:12+00:00	
4338Yep, though that kind of goes for lots of such things - strip clubs, sex shops, hell even normal clubs probably
4339
4340DodgyLandings
4341##	2018-05-26T18:03:27+00:00	
4342I think the biggest problem with the referendum was that it just needed an overall majority. It was insanely close and we've literally ripped apart decades of decisions based on that. I think to alter the status quo to that degree should have required a far stronger majority. Fact is, if that poll was on a different day that week it could have easily gone the other way and that's a ridiculous state of affairs for something so huge.
4343
4344DodgyLandings
4345##	2018-05-26T18:04:00+00:00	
4346What are you on about? You're so wrong it hurts - heard of a judicial review for a start?
4347
4348DodgyLandings
4349##	2018-05-26T19:54:13+00:00	
4350We didn't vote to join the EU, as Brexiters are at pains to remind everyone of at every opportunity.
4351
4352And I don't really see why it matters what happened back then - it doesn't preclude us from making different democratic decisions now. I mean, that's the very basis of a common law democracy that you fix forward essentially.
4353
4354But, no. The point I made (quite clearly I felt) was that the Brexit vote didn't display any sort of consensus whatsoever. As such, the only right thing to do really is maintain the status quo and try and reach a consensus.
4355
4356DodgyLandings
4357##	2018-05-27T13:45:32+00:00	
4358The truth being....?
4359
4360DodgyLandings
4361##	2018-05-27T14:51:07+00:00	
4362Honestly, I'd just disappear the fence one night...
4363
4364DodgyLandings
4365##	2018-05-28T10:21:51+00:00	
4366Dude.
4367
4368DodgyLandings
4369##	2018-05-28T10:21:12+00:00	
4370And it's good fun to boot!
4371
4372DodgyLandings
4373##	2018-05-28T17:37:48+00:00	
4374Well aren't you a delight you racist cunt
4375
4376DodgyLandings
4377##	2018-05-28T17:55:59+00:00	
4378Oooh, I love that 84% figure, dare I ask for a source?
4379
4380DodgyLandings
4381##	2018-05-29T06:23:26+00:00	
4382Yeah, now fuck off. Oh and look at your unsurprising post history ya cunt.
4383
4384DodgyLandings
4385##	2018-05-29T07:22:02+00:00	
4386Why do you keep posting this shite.
4387
4388DodgyLandings
4389##	2018-05-29T07:25:53+00:00	
4390Haha, love the utter bullshit about Police radios. There's somebody who doesn't understand what Airwave is or who uses it!
4391
4392DodgyLandings
4393##	2018-05-29T08:32:40+00:00	
4394Basic radio direction finding is about as good you'll get, but it'll tell you nothing about distance, who is transmitting, won't distinguish between base transmitters and mobile radios, wont distinguish between Police and anybody else (Ambulance/Fire), and will be inaccurate at the best of times and utterly unreadable most of the time.
4395
4396It sure as hell won't show you police radios within any kind of radius.
4397
4398The problem is the way digital radio networks work. Old analog systems are either talking or receiving which is fairly easy to track on a fixed frequency, though Radio Direction Finding is still meh most of the time, especially at ground level.
4399
4400Digital is a whole lot more complicated - with two way, bidirectional data. It'll just make a complete mush of any normal radio finding gear. Don't get me wrong, it's not physically impossible to intercept - just that the kind of kit to do it isnt in some random blokes S5, more like military vehicles!
4401
4402DodgyLandings
4403##	2018-05-29T11:06:23+00:00	
4404What a collection of cunts. They even have that specific arrogant look about them that'd let you spot them as cunts from 500 meters.
4405
4406DodgyLandings
4407##	2018-05-29T13:01:10+00:00	
4408I can not stand fly tipping, but fuck me do council's not help themselves. They were absolute cunts to deal with when I was trying to deal with my renovation.
4409
4410I borrowed a van one day and they wouldn't let me in because it was commercial and had the remnants of some old sign writing on (You know when you can see some removed stickers because of the paint colour). Didnt matter that it wasn't mine, didn't matter it was the same waste that would be in a rental van. Didn't matter that I'd booked online as I had to do. Did eventually get in when I was able to talk to a non-idiot, but I did drive off thinking it's no surprise people Chuck it onto a lay by.
4411
4412DodgyLandings
4413##	2018-05-29T18:05:18+00:00	
4414You're not fucking wrong there. Closely followed by people who think a skip on your drive is an open invitation to come and have a rummage.
4415
4416On that note, I ordered a Portable Loo to be delivered at 0800. I was running late so they called and kindly dropped it where I needed. Got there for 0830, pulled up and some random bloke stepped out. I wish I could include some quip or something, but I just stood there astonished as he walked off.
4417
4418DodgyLandings
4419##	2018-05-29T20:21:29+00:00	
4420Except you'd have to know the bearing of each mast from your location which would then wipe out anything from that direction. Hardly trivial stuff, and that's even before discussing antenna requirements.
4421
4422Sorry, that whole bit is utter guff.
4423
4424DodgyLandings
4425##	2018-05-29T20:20:17+00:00	
4426Heh, I had a V8 for a bit. I didn't know fuel economy could get so low TBH!
4427
4428DodgyLandings
4429##	2018-05-29T20:27:14+00:00	
4430Just thought I'd reply again:
4431
4432I'm guessing it's this, given the 1km thing:
4433
4434http://www.targetblueye.co.uk
4435
4436So yeah, the 1km thing isn't real - that's just a theoretical guess based on the output. Other than that, it literally just flashes up that there's a TETRA device vaguely near by. I'd wrongly assumed there was more to the km claim and the police specific bit.
4437
4438So the device exists but I seriously question it's utility.
4439
4440DodgyLandings
4441##	2018-05-30T05:52:15+00:00	
4442I was talking specifically about tracking and identification. I don't dispute it's possible to detect a TETRA signal, you just aren't going to be able to do much with it.
4443
4444DodgyLandings
4445##	2018-05-30T06:36:56+00:00	
4446Piss off
4447
4448DodgyLandings
4449##	2018-05-30T16:42:28+00:00	
4450Enforcement is always an issue, but I'm not sure that simply not regulating is the answer.
4451
4452I buy insurance, while some don't bother. Doesn't mean we should drop insurance requirements.
4453
4454Drones are rapdily becoming an absolute menance as people who don't know a damn thing about airspace, aviation regs or really anything at all pick up high performance toys and fly them like idiots.
4455
4456DodgyLandings
4457##	2018-05-30T21:15:48+00:00	
4458Have you not followed this story at all? Sensitive - it's a fucking landmine with a hairtrigger.
4459
4460DodgyLandings
4461##	2018-05-31T11:11:00+00:00	
4462Everybody and their mum's are packin' round there.
4463
4464DodgyLandings
4465##	2018-05-31T17:57:45+00:00	
4466Yeah, it's grim as but I'm not sure it's any worse than killing any other animal in our routine ways.
4467
4468DodgyLandings
4469##	2018-05-31T17:56:56+00:00	
4470Bore off, you absolute dullard.
4471
4472Come back when you've read the previous sentencing remarks, read what the judge said this time and read the secret barrister post about it.
4473
4474DodgyLandings
4475##	2018-05-31T18:00:19+00:00	
4476Are you fucking kidding me? What the hell does single event have to do with it? Besides which, half the point is that the single event is against a huge backdrop of criminality and absolutely no concern for anyone else.
4477
4478DodgyLandings
4479##	2018-05-31T18:20:59+00:00	
4480No, there were multiple crimes and serious ones at that. And the reason these people are dead is because justice failed to protect them.
4481
4482DodgyLandings
4483##	2018-05-31T18:58:00+00:00	
4484By the way, in your I'm 14 and Deep moment, you forgot to take into account the likely 50% early release scheme.
4485
4486DodgyLandings
4487##	2018-05-31T19:11:43+00:00	
4488Don't feel bad, I think a lot of people go through this stage. I'm guessing late teens, early 20s, you're proud of how emotionally detached you are about things, definitely no kids.
4489
4490But, unfortunately, you've been wrong about most of this one so far. You don't understand what he was convicted for, you don't understand how sentences play out. You probably don't realise its likely going to appeal on the leniancy too. You may not also realise that actually, the sentence he would have got is close to the max allowable but he was granted an automatic reduction due to guidelines.
4491
4492See, the thing is, what we are seeing isn't enlightened sentencing. It's an over leniency for driving offences, coupled with pressure from successive governments to reduce prison overcrowding alongside in the way of sentencing guidelines.
4493
4494DodgyLandings
4495##	2018-05-31T19:17:31+00:00	
4496It's not just me, though, is it? You're the odd one out here - which fine, you just picked a battle you didn't understand.
4497
4498DodgyLandings
4499##	2018-05-31T19:19:52+00:00	
4500So how old are you? Are you out of education?
4501
4502DodgyLandings
4503##	2018-05-31T19:27:14+00:00	
4504You people are utterly warped. You think he was in any kind of straight thinking mental state FFS?
4505
4506DodgyLandings
4507##	2018-05-31T19:55:41+00:00	
4508You're a fucking cunt. Thats honestly all I have to say to someone so devoid of empathy and the ability to even begin to understand what he was going through.
4509
4510DodgyLandings
4511##	2018-05-31T20:22:19+00:00	
4512Yep.
4513
4514DodgyLandings
4515##	2018-05-31T20:32:36+00:00	
4516He's wrong about most things ref his understanding of the legal system, to be frank. Funny how he doesn't ever really comment on those individual points made.
4517
4518He completely ignore my point about the starting point being close to the maximum for this crime.
4519
4520DodgyLandings
4521##	2018-06-01T11:05:38+00:00	
4522There was an almost verbatim reply to yours that was deleted almost immediately- I checked the post history before I went to reply (assuming it was a silly troll) and laughed at how similar it was to yours. When I hit reply it failed because the post had been deleted.
4523
4524Deny it all you like.
4525
4526DodgyLandings
4527##	2018-06-02T12:24:20+00:00	
4528'concealed'
4529
4530DodgyLandings
4531##	2018-06-02T14:02:47+00:00	
4532No.
4533
4534DodgyLandings
4535##	2018-06-02T14:16:51+00:00	
4536Banning Holocaust denial simply turns deniers into martyrs. It should be defeated by the facts, not by the law, argues Lipstadt.
4537
4538Damn - how come nobody thought of using factual evidence against racist idiots before?
4539
4540DodgyLandings
4541##	2018-06-03T22:48:46+00:00	
4542Clicked on briefly - probably not a fat lot. I certainly wouldn't linger on it or have it as a wallaper or anything at work.
4543
4544DodgyLandings
4545##	2018-06-04T08:00:16+00:00	
4546Yep, probably a bit to the point but you're right - OP, this is London. It's busy, hectic and intense - I think you either love it or hate it but you can't really avoid it.
4547
4548DodgyLandings
4549##	2018-06-04T08:26:05+00:00	
4550No, why would I. I think the EU has been good for Europe, good for Britain and good for the world.
4551
4552We've had anti EU whinging for decades, predominantly based on falsehoods and misinformation.
4553
4554Why aren't Brexiters all over the moon happy? Is it because it's already the shit show everyone else knew it would be?
4555
4556DodgyLandings
4557##	2018-06-04T09:41:49+00:00	
4558(we're ~57% the size of California),
4559
4560to be fair, we also have an extra 25 million people so I'm not sure that's a fair comparison really.
4561
4562DodgyLandings
4563##	2018-06-04T09:40:09+00:00	
4564Tricky one - it's not like British Rail was amazing but I hate that we just keep handing off our national infrastructure to peoples whose interests do not align with the people.
4565
4566TfL seems to run very well, especially given its complexities.
4567
4568DodgyLandings
4569##	2018-06-04T09:56:07+00:00	
4570Not even TfL is profitable. And this is the crux of the problem - transport services run for profit are never going to suit what consumers and commuters need.
4571
4572DodgyLandings
4573##	2018-06-04T10:09:35+00:00	
4574More to the point, just because something costs money doesn't mean it's a failure or hemorrhaging money.
4575
4576I'm not saying this to argue with you as though you're wrong or whatever, it's just this concept that everything needs to be cost neutral which is ridiculous.
4577
4578DodgyLandings
4579##	2018-06-04T10:33:39+00:00	
4580I don't know why you responded in such a snarky way. TfL's fares alone do not cover their costs.
4581
4582DodgyLandings
4583##	2018-06-04T11:29:40+00:00	
4584Your 'Wat' implies I was wrong. Which I wasn't.
4585
4586DodgyLandings
4587##	2018-06-04T11:47:02+00:00	
4588It doesn't even 'make money' really - it's relient on government funding. It isn't self sufficient, that's the point.
4589
4590DodgyLandings
4591##	2018-06-04T12:08:31+00:00	
4592Not combined it doesn't, it's 40 percent. You think most companies could operate well after losing 60 percent of their income?
4593
4594DodgyLandings
4595##	2018-06-04T12:26:05+00:00	
4596since the revenue taken from fares outweighs all other forms
4597
4598Okay, so I was 7% out. I don't think it's right to include things like road charging as that's VERY TfL specific and essentially, again, a government tax.
4599
4600But fine, let's call it 60% - that's still 40% for the taxpayer to find.
4601
4602Anyway, shall we go back to the start of this entire thing that you're so desperate to unpick:
4603
4604Are the commuter routes in the South East not profitable?
4605
4606I would have thought with so many packed trains these routes could turn a profit that could be invested in infrastructure in the rest of the UK.
4607
4608The point I'm making that you're oh so desperate to miss is that even TfL which is very successful and incredibly busy can not operate (Using current charges, at least) without government funding. The idea that busy routes in the south east could "turn a profit" and not only fund themselves, but also the rest of the UK is not going to happen without some serious rail fares.
4609
4610Again, I don't mind TfL being funded by the public - but to pretend their self sufficient or could operate as-is without the government picking up the shortfall is ludicrous.
4611
4612I'm fin with the concept of nationalisation, but people need to remember that it will cost money - trains aren't suddenly going to become cheap to the end user with modern infrastructure while also being self sufficient.
4613
4614DodgyLandings
4615##	2018-06-04T12:28:57+00:00	
4616What you can, say, however is that nationalising rail clearly isn't a magic bullet or an automatic solution. I don't really like privatisation of the railways, but one could argue that with enough will to change and government intervention through policy and legislation you could probably make a success of that just as much as you could make a success of nationalisation.
4617
4618DodgyLandings
4619##	2018-06-04T12:42:53+00:00	
4620Actually, it isn't. It is 23% as I outlined above. The vast majority of that is spent on crossrail and other infrastructure, to be honest, business benefits the most from that.
4621
4622First, you need to get your numbers right. You also then must consider the number of private actors within the sector, and they are allowed to make a profit, and they do.
4623
4624My very first response to you.
4625
4626The best part of a quarter comes form government funding - which is absolutely fine, I don't mind that - but they're not self sufficient or profitable.
4627
4628DodgyLandings
4629##	2018-06-04T12:51:35+00:00	
4630Honestly, because we're going in circles so I stopped bothering to check the figures. Because, for the n'th time, the FACT REMAINS, that TfL could not continue to operate as-is without considerable government funding.
4631
4632You're also continuing to pretend the congestion charge etc isn't government funding. While it may not come from central taxation, it is a tax that TfL collect/end up with.
4633
4634Are you ever going to come back and actually discuss my core point, which isn't reliant on exact percentage figures, or are you just going to wank yourself dry on minor pedantism?
4635
4636DodgyLandings
4637##	2018-06-04T13:17:35+00:00	
4638Oh right, how do you factually predict the future?
4639
4640DodgyLandings
4641##	2018-06-04T13:17:00+00:00	
4642Very nearly the same amount of people voted to leave the EU as voted not to. In fact, for almost any other statistical purposes you could probably say the same number of people did.
4643
4644You say deluded, but what's deluded is to be remotely confident that another vote would come out the same. The real truth is that the same vote the day after could have turned out differently - and I would suspect a lot more people would have moved from being Brexit -> Remain rather than the other way round.
4645
4646DodgyLandings
4647##	2018-06-04T13:20:03+00:00	
4648And you've ignored the whole point of the argument, AGAIN.
4649
4650I dunno if you're a troll or just thick.
4651
4652DodgyLandings
4653##	2018-06-04T13:33:01+00:00	
4654You've stated two different numbers for the amount of grants.
4655
4656The specific numbers don't matter. Does it change the point that TfL isn't self sufficient? Do you think TfL could be self sufficient while running as-is? Do you think getting only half your revenue from fares is sustainable? Do you think someone running like TfL would have sufficient reserves to help fund other UK infrastructure?
4657
4658Seeing as how it isn't a mandatory charge, it simply falls foul of the definition of tax.
4659
4660As you'd say: Wut?
4661
4662How about, come back with something more substantive, something which actually adds up and then maybe we can talk.
4663
4664I did, you're not talking, though - you're cherry picking on fairly immaterial and very pedantic points because, actually, I have no idea why, but it's very irritating.
4665
4666DodgyLandings
4667##	2018-06-04T13:37:39+00:00	
4668At the very least, the number is well over 20%. That is a chunk of cash and TfL would suffer without it.
4669
4670I noticed you didn't even attempt a single one of the questions where you couldn't get your pedantry wank on, though.
4671
4672DodgyLandings
4673##	2018-06-04T13:53:02+00:00	
4674You're trying too hard bud. We're not talking a few percent that TfL takes, we're talking AT MINIMUM, 23%. And that's before we even get into a discussion about Congestion Charging (Which is, effectively, a government policy and absolutely not something which could be replicated everywhere or by private operators). I stated the precise number in my very very first post - and, yeah, after that I stopped really double checking because you were getting silly.
4675
4676Not once have you actually attempted a rebuttal at the root argument - you've just gone around in circles on silly things. I'm not going to go and trawl through every single report and attempt to get this into single digit accuracy because, and I don't give a shit if you think it's a stupid comment, the exact, precise numbers don't matter when you concede that 20%+ of your funding comes from the government.
4677
4678If Virgin required 20%+ government investment every year, you'd not consider that private enterprise as sustainable.
4679
4680So, I'll ask you again:
4681
4682Does it change the point that TfL isn't self sufficient? Do you think TfL could be self sufficient while running as-is? Do you think getting only half your revenue from fares is sustainable? Do you think someone running like TfL would have sufficient reserves to help fund other UK infrastructure?
4683
4684Because, unless you can seriously start to refute those points, you're just making yourself look very silly.
4685
4686DodgyLandings
4687##	2018-06-04T14:14:15+00:00	
4688On top of that, the congestion charge isn't a tax. Simply because you can get your fat arse out of your car and walk it. It isn't mandated, all actual tax, is.
4689
4690I don't think you understand what a tax is. Do you think VED is a tax? What about business rates? Do you think NI isn't a tax?
4691
4692The congestion charge is mandated if you want to do a certain thing, like every other bloody tax.
4693
4694You're not very smart, are you?
4695
4696DodgyLandings
4697##	2018-06-04T14:31:52+00:00	
4698VED is a tax if you want to own a car or motorcycle etc, just as is VAT. None of which are avoidable, unless generally, the are necessities.
4699
4700Funny that driving a car through central London isn't a necessity. Typical car twat with his "but meh stealth tax". At least you knew it was VED though, congrats on that, it did surprise me.
4701
4702Uh. So if one needs to drive through London (say, a delivery I dunno - I've never personally paid congestion charge) then it's a mandatory tax by your logic? All the stuff you want is a necessity, but driving in London isn't for anyone ever?
4703
4704Seriously, you can't see what a silly distinction you're making? Almost any tax can be legally avoided in some way, especially if you're willing to inconvenience yourself to do so. Get yourself a minimum wage job and you don't even have to pay any income tax - happy days!
4705
4706DodgyLandings
4707##	2018-06-04T15:00:38+00:00	
4708Right, but now you're assuming I'm against Congestion Charging which I never said I was? Just that it's implementation and scale amounts, pretty much, to being a tax - and is certainly something that could only be undertaken by a government.
4709
4710Nope. How are you going to evade VAT, NI and lots of taxes... actually you'd need to have sufficient money coming in so it makes practical sense to hire a very expensive tax lawyer and save you money. Either that or become mates with an influential MP.
4711
4712I already gave you some examples, though I was very specific to say avoid. Evasion is illegal and that's not at all what we're talking about. There are many many ways of avoiding all sorts of taxes - and it's not like everyone pays every kind of tax, and nor should they.
4713
4714DodgyLandings
4715##	2018-06-04T21:16:43+00:00	
4716What the fuck!
4717
4718DodgyLandings
4719##	2018-06-05T07:04:12+00:00	
4720The only things I'm seeing about it, save for an advert, is people on here moaning about it.
4721
4722I'm not interested in it in the slightest, but I can't fathom why you'd care.
4723
4724DodgyLandings
4725##	2018-06-05T17:45:17+00:00	
4726Ah, Christianity - where the vast majority would hated by the God they believe in
4727
4728DodgyLandings
4729##	2018-06-05T18:29:03+00:00	
4730Greggs
4731
4732DodgyLandings
4733##	2018-06-06T06:23:49+00:00	
4734It's a quote.
4735
4736DodgyLandings
4737##	2018-06-06T06:24:16+00:00	
4738....in what sense?
4739
4740DodgyLandings
4741##	2018-06-06T13:34:11+00:00	
4742Yep, we need to take the aviation approach. Most doctors are clever people who want to do the best they can - often it's systematic problems that cause these things, and hanging out people to dry is counter productive and gives us no progress.
4743
4744What the panel should do is point out the absolutely outrageous working conditions and fatigue inducing hours. Even the best will make mistake after mistake if absolutely shattered.
4745
4746DodgyLandings
4747##	2018-06-06T21:44:28+00:00	
4748You warned me. I didn't believe you, and now I'm fucking sorry.
4749
4750DodgyLandings
4751##	2018-06-07T07:04:37+00:00	
4752Or, and let's be frank, they've been indoctrinated from a young age to believe there MUST be something. And that, when all said and done, is rooted in a time that we understood little of the world around us.
4753
4754DodgyLandings
4755##	2018-06-07T19:37:31+00:00	
4756Can I ask why, honestly? Do you really think the state should be obligated to help you move to a different area? Why?
4757
4758DodgyLandings
4759##	2018-06-07T19:39:08+00:00	
4760It's almost like you don't understand the stock exchange and what it does...
4761
4762Im fact it's almost like you don't understand crypto, because Crypto exchanges have trouble all the time, too.
4763
4764DodgyLandings
4765##	2018-06-07T20:00:38+00:00	
4766The problem is, you're comparing apples to oranges. You and I can do what I want with cash anytime we like - the fact that the shop next door closes at 10pm isn't the fault of the pound coin is it?
4767
4768DodgyLandings
4769##	2018-06-08T07:39:59+00:00	
4770Yep, there was never going to be a helicopter landing. I don't think the Police even do much confined area practice, let alone this sort of rescue work. Helimed crews can land on a sixpence but, again, aren't trained or equipped for that kind of dynamic work.
4771
4772The only people I can think of who could have helped would be Search and Rescue, though they'd favour winch operations. Very risky in that kind of area. Maybe whoever trains for oil rig evacuations could have helped but I don't know anything about that, and obviously they aren't in London.
4773
4774I get why the people inside thought it might happen, but truth is that it's a Hollywood fantasy. We just don't train or equip our regular services for that kind of work.
4775
4776DodgyLandings
4777##	2018-06-08T08:09:20+00:00	
4778Nah, the moped crime is here. Still seems to be primarily bikes and bikers targeted but it'll come..
4779
4780DodgyLandings
4781##	2018-06-08T09:41:47+00:00	
4782Yep, I was going to add something about even the military crews generally dealing with military people who are either trained at it or at least generally good at remaining calm and following orders.
4783
4784It's just a reciepe for (another) disaster really.
4785
4786DodgyLandings
4787##	2018-06-08T09:59:03+00:00	
4788Aye, I know mate - just musing as I suspect the question will come up during the inquest. There were certainly people asking why not at the time.
4789
4790DodgyLandings
4791##	2018-06-09T15:37:10+00:00	
4792I fucking hate the child soldier thing - it makes a mockery of actual child soldiers.
4793
4794Don't have all the info to hand, but you aren't being sent to war at 16 and I'm pretty sure you can leave near enough any time until you're 18.
4795
4796When you have young kids being exploited and sent to die by all sorts of horrid people around the globe to include the British Army in your campaign is just pathetic.
4797
4798DodgyLandings
4799##	2018-06-09T15:45:09+00:00	
4800I hate to say it, but it's relatively feasible. Certificates are already pretty well placed for this - the complex bit would be verifying somebody before issuing a cert. That and stopping people from selling them on.
4801
4802Not that I think it's a good idea, but it's not totally stupid technically.
4803
4804DodgyLandings
4805##	2018-06-09T15:56:51+00:00	
4806Legally, I'm not sure. But imagine you have a certificate authority which issues personal certificates - it verifies you via passport, sends a letter to your address, checks some bank statements or something (we already plenty of these processes in place). Once the CA is happy you are who you are it issues you a personal certificate.
4807
4808Now, I set up my new Facebook with it's huge USP - every user is confirmed and ID'd. To sign up, you must provide your personal certificate.
4809
4810Now, there's little in that to stop you from sharing that cert I admit but you're literally selling your ID which has a huge risk.
4811
4812DodgyLandings
4813##	2018-06-09T16:05:22+00:00	
4814You could legislate it fairly easily, or encourage it - there was a point where the idea of using your name on a website was beyond ludicrous but there ya go. Point is that the tech mostly exists. I think it's a dumb idea, but the tech does exist which was point.
4815
4816DodgyLandings
4817##	2018-06-09T16:31:14+00:00	
4818Private key ;)
4819
4820My point has only ever been that the technology already exists to verify identity.
4821
4822DodgyLandings
4823##	2018-06-09T16:35:58+00:00	
4824That's....not right at all. The CA generates you a certificate which contains both public and private key. You use the private key to sign something and the other side uses your public key to verify it.
4825
4826DodgyLandings
4827##	2018-06-09T16:41:17+00:00	
4828The person who needs to use the cert has the private key. That's literally how it works - the web server or whatever needs the private key.
4829
4830DodgyLandings
4831##	2018-06-09T17:06:55+00:00	
4832To my shame I've built a bunch of PKI. I'm with you now, I misunderstood your point.
4833
4834DodgyLandings
4835##	2018-06-09T19:01:33+00:00	
4836They have the private key, though which does allow them to prove who are they are. In this situation it's the opposite, you'd have the private key to your personal certificate which would prove that you are who you say you are.
4837
4838DodgyLandings
4839##	2018-06-09T19:12:58+00:00	
4840And you also have to make a whole bunch of major life decisions at 16. Can be sent to jail etc
4841
4842DodgyLandings
4843##	2018-06-09T19:36:41+00:00	
4844You don't think we have got bigger things to worry about by the time the UK is under attack?
4845
4846And far more civlians have died in recent terorrist attacks. You're literally at more risk getting an office job in London.
4847
4848DodgyLandings
4849##	2018-06-09T21:53:13+00:00	
4850I don't particularly agree with your premise, but even if it's correct - they'll have a bloody good idea what they've joined after 5 months and if they don't like it they can literally walk away.
4851
4852DodgyLandings
4853##	2018-06-10T14:26:05+00:00	
4854Bet you'd be over the moon if someone grafittid your shit.
4855
4856DodgyLandings
4857##	2018-06-10T15:23:19+00:00	
4858Honestly, I don't get the different circumstances at all. If you want to paint, either paint your own shit or paint what you've been asked to do so.
4859
4860It's pretty simple rule to live by - don't vandalise other people's shit. Whether a train company owns it, or a private individual is immaterial.
4861
4862DodgyLandings
4863##	2018-06-11T07:38:49+00:00	
4864This is probably one of the most hilariously wrong and idiotic posts I've seen on Reddit. Good Lord man.
4865
4866Do you think doctors, lawyers, architects, engineers etc just wake up one day as that profession?
4867
4868DodgyLandings
4869##	2018-06-11T07:38:02+00:00	
4870Reddit summed up in one sentence.
4871
4872DodgyLandings
4873##	2018-06-11T08:32:25+00:00	
4874Oh yeah, nursing and medical science, those other untrained professions. You're a fucking idiot.
4875
4876DodgyLandings
4877##	2018-06-11T09:12:39+00:00	
4878I thoroughly look forward to him coming back and answering that question, but I doubt he will.
4879
4880DodgyLandings
4881##	2018-06-11T09:18:08+00:00	
4882Honestly, as cool as AI and everything is I can't help but feel that this is the same as when people in the 60's thought we'd have moon bases and flying cars and whatever by the year 2000.
4883
4884I also look forward to the realisation that, in health care especially, the human to human contact is vitally important. Sure, an AI may be able to diagnose you but do you really want to turn up to AandE seriously ill to be dumped in a sterile room while Doctor Robot does it's thing?
4885
4886DodgyLandings
4887##	2018-06-11T09:29:18+00:00	
4888Yep, I wasn't even going to get into that bit to be honest. Fucking joker.
4889
4890DodgyLandings
4891##	2018-06-11T09:36:18+00:00	
4892He posted a bunch after I replied - perhaps we should go and remind him, as I'm sure he just missed my reply.
4893
4894DodgyLandings
4895##	2018-06-11T10:17:24+00:00	
4896You going to come back to the detective thread and tell everyone what amazing job you do?
4897
4898DodgyLandings
4899##	2018-06-11T10:43:46+00:00	
4900But wait, you said all industries have learnt to split up the tasks so even a monkey could do it. Surley I could do your job in just 12 weeks of training then?
4901
4902You're not making any sense.
4903
4904And we probably would believe you, it'd probably just blow your silly arguments out of the waterm
4905
4906DodgyLandings
4907##	2018-06-11T10:59:31+00:00	
4908I feel a bit mean because I had pretty much free reign as a kid, but I've already got some proper network gear in to let me isolate devices from the Internet etc.
4909
4910DodgyLandings
4911##	2018-06-11T11:14:20+00:00	
4912Yep - I'm in tech and I know I'm already way out of touch with what the kids are doing / using. Hopefully I can stay on the curve when it comes to connectivity at least and I guess I'll just have to pay more attention
4913
4914DodgyLandings
4915##	2018-06-11T13:18:41+00:00	
4916It's a bit cat and mouse, certainly, but in my experience kids aren't all that knowledgeable.
4917
4918They're tech savvy and can Google, but mostly they'll just follow guides to the letter and follow what they've seen elsewhere. I used to do educational IT and honestly, they aren't as good as they thank they are generally - though they are persistent little fucks.
4919
4920That said, yeah, mobile phones are always going to be tricky. My only real answer to that is hold off on data plans until they're old enough, and try and parent it.
4921
4922You can only ever do so much before sheer trust comes into it, technology or otherwise. Nobody used to know what we were doing over the park, but I didn't become a mugger or anything.
4923
4924If my kid does manage to homebrew some clever shit then I'll mostly be proud tbh. Everyone loves to remind me about the time I got us banned from an ISP because of my script kiddy ways as a young teen ;(
4925
4926DodgyLandings
4927##	2018-06-11T13:20:56+00:00	
4928Haha, my post was going to be 'Does it include travelling back in time?'
4929
4930DodgyLandings
4931##	2018-06-11T13:27:58+00:00	
4932Typical selfish, self serving short term thinking council.
4933
4934I'm no fan of Virgin, but they're doing what they should which is investing in infrastructure - something council's should be supporting and helping not combating.
4935
4936DodgyLandings
4937##	2018-06-11T13:28:39+00:00	
4938I'm honestly sort of surprised by that, given how fucking weird the whole situation seemed to be.
4939
4940DodgyLandings
4941##	2018-06-11T20:14:59+00:00	
4942God they're fucking filth, aren't they.
4943
4944DodgyLandings
4945##	2018-06-11T20:14:05+00:00	
4946At least until after marriage, eh!
4947
4948DodgyLandings
4949##	2018-06-11T21:42:11+00:00	
4950I know it's just like me opinon, maaan, and I'm kinda over the politics of the whole thing (i.e., I'm in adapt and overcome mode) I am still genuinely saddened by Brexit.
4951
4952And I mean that sincerely - I think it's a bad thing in just every way. I think the EU is a force for good - good for the world, good for Europe, good for citizens, good for human rights, good for consumers and good for business.
4953
4954Not only that, but I do worry for the wider EU as it appears the world shifts somewhat to the right and to populist soundbites and Brexit really doesn't help quell that.
4955
4956Forget science, forget stats, forget experts, forget the EU. Close your eyes and imagine an optimistic view of the distant future. The Star Trek one where humans have gotten over race, colour and Creed. Really think about it - consider how it might look and how it might function.
4957
4958My question is simple - does your imagined future have decentralised government's working against each other? Or does it have unification, cooperation and people working towards a common good?
4959
4960DodgyLandings
4961##	2018-06-11T22:18:47+00:00	
4962I like the current system of independent goverments under a union, attempting to work together while still working for their own citizens ;)
4963
4964I never mentioned global government, but I sincerely don't think this move towards isolation and protectionism is going to help anybody.
4965
4966DodgyLandings
4967##	2018-06-11T22:46:55+00:00	
4968Sorry but that's an absolute cop out. If you went to the Middle Ages and explained to them the EU they'd laugh at you too. I find it somewhat intriguing that you are indeed dodging that question, which is surprising seeing as there's no right or wrong answer. Do you simply not believe that we will continue to progress and improve working relationships?
4969
4970I agree that a truly utopian future is unlikely, but that doesn't matter. I'm never going to be Usain Bolt but if I want to be a decent sprinter then I should likely look to him for inspiration - it doesn't matter that I never get there, sitting on the sofa certainly won't help.
4971
4972DodgyLandings
4973##	2018-06-12T06:30:46+00:00	
4974Christ that phrase fucks me off. It's the will of a statistical anomaly above half. Quite literally could have gone the other way had the vote been the day after or the day before.
4975
4976If you have a hundred people and 51 vote to go out for Pizza and 49 curry in no way do you have some overwhelming concensus that Pizza is better, when it's only because Dave's IBS was playing up that he didn't fancy a Curry.
4977
4978DodgyLandings
4979##	2018-06-12T06:43:51+00:00	
4980An Opinion isn't meddling. Propaganda, especially that rooted on falsehoods and half truths is.
4981
4982Whether you're an ardent Brexiter or not, pretending that there wasn't lots of the above is delusional.
4983
4984DodgyLandings
4985##	2018-06-12T08:32:22+00:00	
4986True, but that's the fault of those who didn't bother. There were only two choices, so I think it's only reasonable to extrapolate that the vote result was fairly representative of the national feel at that moment.
4987
4988But again, because the numbers are so close it doesn't really indicate which way!
4989
4990DodgyLandings
4991##	2018-06-12T08:40:12+00:00	
4992Oh, well, yeah - that's the fault of everyone who fancied a Ruby though so fucking eat it.
4993
4994DodgyLandings
4995##	2018-06-12T08:48:55+00:00	
4996I wish people would appreciate that while most politicians (and people, let's be honest) are somewhat self serving the majority do at least believe they're doing their best for the country as a whole - even if you disagree with their methods. However, we have a growing crop of people (Boris, Farage, Rees-Mogg) who are literally only interested in their own affairs and self promotion.
4997
4998Boris is the most obvious example - he'll switch sides in a blink if it's good for Boris. He literally does not give a fuck about anyone else, the country, his party etc. Nobody. He's in it for Boris and nobody else.
4999
5000And Farage is the same. I know it's true because he's not thick, and I don't believe for a moment he believes half the things he's said about the EU.
5001
5002DodgyLandings
5003##	2018-06-12T09:03:27+00:00	
5004It's just utter bullshit isn't it, and that fucks me off.
5005
5006What should have happened is that we use that referendum to demonstrate how deeply devided we are and how unhappy many are with the current status quo. We could have then taken that to make progress and change.
5007
5008DodgyLandings
5009##	2018-06-12T10:50:47+00:00	
5010Sure, and when it comes to picking food that's fine - but you can't walk around after and declare that Pizza is the thing everyone wanted.
5011
5012Lets look at it another way - you have a rare, undiagnosed disease. There are two pills you can take but the wrong one will kill you.
5013
5014So you gather up all the people who you feel will know best - scientists, doctors, chemists whoever. 52 percent come back saying Pill 1, 48 percent say Pill 2. Do you look at those results and go 'Sweet, Pill 1 it definitely is' or do you step back and think 'Hmmm, that's a little inconclusive'.
5015
5016And then when you find it out some of those people are on the payroll of somebody who wants you dead, do you still push on and get your order of Pill 1 in?
5017
5018We are literally throwing away decades of work (and special treatment!) On an inconclusive result fought on a sketchy battleground.
5019
5020DodgyLandings
5021##	2018-06-12T10:55:19+00:00	
5022Hardly. Not unless you assume homeless simply means lacking a house.
5023
5024There are plenty of people out there who will outright refuse help and shelter due to a variety of complicated issues. We can certainly help improve the situation but there will always be an element.
5025
5026DodgyLandings
5027##	2018-06-12T13:31:35+00:00	
5028Nah, it's a bag with wires. So, a laptop bag with a phone charger probably.
5029
5030DodgyLandings
5031##	2018-06-12T18:30:31+00:00	
5032Uhm, it's not a contested fact by anybody who isn't an idot.
5033
5034We have two a few miles from me - no idea what the full deal is, but while they regularly get help in the form of donations they've made it clear they don't wish to leave the street. Plenty of tramps and other examples in many cities.
5035
5036Watch the last series of Ambulance on TV if you want to see it yourself - homeless kid, taken to a shelter and promptly legs it in preference to the street.
5037
5038DodgyLandings
5039##	2018-06-12T19:41:02+00:00	
5040The fuck you on about? It's a fly on the wall documentary - you asked me if I could prove to you an example of somebody refusing help. And there it was.
5041
5042You didn't speak about housing first - fact remains you could provide free houses to every single person and there would still be instances of homelessness.
5043
5044DodgyLandings
5045##	2018-06-13T09:22:44+00:00	
5046And absolutely NOTHING has happened on the global stage to indicate that we have any need for military power over the last few decades.
5047
5048Do you remember that time a dictatorship didn't randomly invade a British territory.
5049
5050Or when Crimea peacefully decided to become Russian.
5051
5052Or when the Russians definitely didnt go anywhere near Ukraine.
5053
5054Or when the American President positively and reassuringly re affirmed their commitment to Europe and NATO.
5055
5056Dunno about you, but I wouldn't be putting any money on us not needing those F-35s over the next decade or so.
5057
5058DodgyLandings
5059##	2018-06-13T09:41:34+00:00	
5060You realise that one of the major concerns for Europe is losing all that guaranteed British military support from the EU?
5061
5062I know this sub likes to speak like we are some tiny backwater nobody has heard of, but we still have an extremely well respected and world class military. We are small, but we have (or will have) excellent defence and force projection capabilities. That gives us a seat at many tables, a voice that gets heard and makes us somebody that most people want to be friends with.
5063
5064DodgyLandings
5065##	2018-06-13T09:52:38+00:00	
5066Mythical? Whatever mate.
5067
5068DodgyLandings
5069##	2018-06-13T10:02:29+00:00	
5070OK. You're right - there are absolutely no homeless people out there whose issues are deeper than 'not having a house'
5071
5072DodgyLandings
5073##	2018-06-13T10:08:07+00:00	
5074It's pretty much exactly what you said, while also calling the pair who live by me 'mythical'.
5075
5076So yeah, let's leave it - it's all in black and white for everyone else to read.
5077
5078DodgyLandings
5079##	2018-06-13T10:26:47+00:00	
5080Because it doesn't cost THEM, that's the problem. It's very easy to have someone else pay the price.
5081
5082DodgyLandings
5083##	2018-06-13T14:18:15+00:00	
5084I really hate this thing where people declare something that's not perfect in some ridiculous way.
5085
5086Room for improvement? Absolutely. Basically North Korea? No mate.
5087
5088Not only does it make want to throw things at them, but it stops me from being remotely interested in the rest of their 'argument'. If you think the UK is not a democracy then you've really not got the smallest grasp on things.
5089
5090DodgyLandings
5091##	2018-06-13T15:20:27+00:00	
5092Depends - I wouldn't want to cycle 9 miles in a suit. So now I need to handle the logistics of showering and changing at work - something not all places have, by a long shot.
5093
5094DodgyLandings
5095##	2018-06-13T16:07:25+00:00	
5096It does indeed seem very cake and eat it.
5097
5098The self employed thing is a complex one - at one end you've got very well paid, highly skilled consultants with huge amounts of flexibility where the advantages far outweigh the negatives for most.
5099
5100At the other end you've got low paid workers, working their arses off to cover costs.
5101
5102I'm really not sure how to work with that, to be honest. I really am in both camps - I'm a huge proponent of workers rights and unions. But I've also done contracting and absolutely loved it
5103
5104DodgyLandings
5105##	2018-06-13T17:37:20+00:00	
5106And this is precisley why most IT Contractors are working through Ltd companies.
5107
5108DodgyLandings
5109##	2018-06-13T20:25:27+00:00	
5110See, this is where I start getting a bit annoyed. Plenty of contractors and sub contractor companies go out as another firm. It happens all the time - I used to work for an IT company and would regularly be given other companies t-shirts and such to wear on site.
5111
5112And this is B2B stuff - plenty of cleaning and facilities type firms do it, too - MITIE or whoever may subcontract out to a local firm but they'll turn up in MITIE uniforms etc. (That's a random example, I'm not sure MITIE do).
5113
5114It does nothing whatsoever to demonstrate him as employed or not IMHO
5115
5116DodgyLandings
5117##	2018-06-14T06:58:00+00:00	
5118Oh bore the fuck off. These parents are idiots, but please let's not pretend there's a child protection issue in recording your child's sports day.
5119
5120DodgyLandings
5121##	2018-06-14T09:04:20+00:00	
5122I'm concerned that a website called Tax Research is conflating workers rights with taxation, when the two are legally exclusive.
5123
5124Take IR35 as an obvious example - a worker in taxation terms, with absolutely no workers rights.
5125
5126Now, I do disagree that it is like that - but it does make me question their legitimacy.
5127
5128DodgyLandings
5129##	2018-06-14T09:11:39+00:00	
5130Sorry, the autistic in me can't get over the use of RADAR in their name!
5131
5132Interesting site, though.
5133
5134DodgyLandings
5135##	2018-06-14T09:58:04+00:00	
5136Cheers. Not knocking the bloke, but this wasn't a tax ruling and I don't think it helps to pretend it was.
5137
5138DodgyLandings
5139##	2018-06-14T10:10:28+00:00	
5140....no. My point is that I get annoyed at these arguments because they also apply to many contract companies, sub contractors etc.
5141
5142What, precisely, am I making up? And why do I need to be a judge to have an opinion? AFAIK, the points made in the post I replied to are not points of law.
5143
5144DodgyLandings
5145##	2018-06-14T10:33:41+00:00	
5146Oh bore off you cunt. I'm not commenting on the case, I'm commenting on specific points regarding clothes and the van.
5147
5148Secondly, I do have a clue because I've read most of the rulings and I'm half way through this one (you read it?)
5149
5150Third, while things may be minor pointers in a wider case that is NOT the same as being definite indicators in their own right.
5151
5152Finally, it's entirely possible to understand the legislation and subsequent judgement and still disagree with that legislation. That's fairly key to our democracy.
5153
5154DodgyLandings
5155##	2018-06-14T10:48:38+00:00	
5156Yes, because most judgements are excellently written with citations and full reasoning. Most are in fairly plain English and Judges do not make them difficult to understand.
5157
5158For my part, I'm not stupid and work in a highly technical field so reading 20 pages of a judgement is not particularly onerous.
5159
5160Law is also something that interests me, generally and these cases in particular have the potential to affect me eventually. There's a reason I once had an MD of a big firm call me up to give him a quick rundown on some changes for Ltd Co contractors a few years ago.
5161
5162So no, I'm not an expert. But yes, I have passing opinion and I try to root that in knowledge.
5163
5164You?
5165
5166DodgyLandings
5167##	2018-06-14T10:58:26+00:00	
5168Nope - it's all come out of an employment tribunal where the guy took them to court because he wanted to be recognised as an employee.
5169
5170They lost that, kept appealing and this is the latest appeal. The big thing is that the supreme court have basically upheld the decisions of all the lower courts which makes it very hard for anyone else to argue against similar decisions in future, and also sets out a precedent for other courts to make similar judgements.
5171
5172DodgyLandings
5173##	2018-06-14T11:19:53+00:00	
5174Good solid response which really says it all. Appreciate you clearing that up.
5175
5176DodgyLandings
5177##	2018-06-14T11:23:37+00:00	
5178It's an interesting one, and I don't know, but I am going to have to pull you up here. What you describe are the things Ltd Co Directors do to reduce corporation tax, utilise their wife's tax free allowance and the dividend allowance.
5179
5180He was self employed which is nowhere near the same thing - for some reason these are often conflated but the law is very very different. The main thing would be writing off the purchase of tools and equipment.
5181
5182It seems that the focus generally is more on the Pimlico obligations.
5183
5184DodgyLandings
5185##	2018-06-14T11:28:32+00:00	
5186You don't seem to have the faintest idea what is being discussed in this thread, but you have done an excellent job of making yourself look foolish in front of everyone.
5187
5188DodgyLandings
5189##	2018-06-14T11:34:14+00:00	
5190You're missing my point - he's neither. He didn't have a Ltd Co and so couldn't do the things you mentioned.
5191
5192He was 'self employed' which has a specific tax meaning.
5193
5194DodgyLandings
5195##	2018-06-14T11:38:57+00:00	
5196Read any judgements yet, or are you scared you won't understand any of it?
5197
5198DodgyLandings
5199##	2018-06-14T11:45:45+00:00	
5200It's not really a 'key' issue is my entire point. It does form part of the argument, certainly, but the predominant factors are right of substitution and the presence of an umbrella.
5201
5202From reading the judgement, if he could have sent his mates in to do jobs then I think he'd have lost though of course it doesn't out right say that.
5203
5204DodgyLandings
5205##	2018-06-14T11:55:49+00:00	
5206Never used it for Live but the Amazon stick may be a cheap win for you
5207
5208DodgyLandings
5209##	2018-06-14T12:26:07+00:00	
5210I've not seen that he did to be honest? It's not me mentioned in the ruling, even in the bit regarding his tax.
5211
5212To be honest, I wasn't really aware that it was something particularly attractive to the self employed. Seems to have a lot of risk and faff associated without having huge savings.
5213
5214I know a lot of Ltd Co people do it, but most self employed trades I know seem happy just writing off tools and materials etc.
5215
5216DodgyLandings
5217##	2018-06-14T12:30:53+00:00	
5218To understand it fully. Understand it's implications and what the key points were?
5219
5220Because if you did you'd understand that clothing and such formed a tiny part of a bigger argument, that wasn't even the main crux of the case.
5221
5222And you'll note I've never once said I disagree with the ruling.
5223
5224DodgyLandings
5225##	2018-06-14T13:02:27+00:00	
5226Honestly, I wouldn't. I'd let stuff like this just play out - it's the kind of thing that worries people in the chain, but likely won't impact later on.
5227
5228DodgyLandings
5229##	2018-06-14T14:50:18+00:00	
5230I just checked his post submissions. Apart from one where he's being a cunt about not wanting to hear about Grenfell, he also thinks he's solved a huge mathematical problem. Absolute tosser!
5231
5232DodgyLandings
5233##	2018-06-14T15:03:59+00:00	
5234So, did you solve that problem then? Couldn't see anything in the news about it.
5235
5236DodgyLandings
5237##	2018-06-14T16:15:27+00:00	
5238I think he's beyond bigot - he's utterly suboptimal.
5239
5240DodgyLandings
5241##	2018-06-14T17:44:05+00:00	
5242Mate, he thinks he's solved a massive decades old mathematical puzzle. I think that says about it all regarding his abilities and intelligence.
5243
5244DodgyLandings
5245##	2018-06-14T17:46:41+00:00	
5246Hey dude, I think this article is out of date:
5247
5248https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collatz_conjecture
5249
5250DodgyLandings
5251##	2018-06-14T17:55:52+00:00	
5252Answer based on whether they're spent convictions. Double check, but I believe there are fairly strict rules about asking for spent convictions.
5253
5254Then, even if they do appear on the DBS you can say you answered honestly.
5255
5256For my part, I've got a line item on my DBS Extended (Dunno about standard, only had extended) and I stopped mentioning it agger ten years.
5257
5258DodgyLandings
5259##	2018-06-14T17:59:38+00:00	
5260I'm very bored, but yes, your unbelievable stupidity combined with intense bigotry and racism does offend me. Frankly, I'm offended people like you are allowed to breathe but fortunately you've got a huge signpost attached which clearly demonstrates your grasp on reality is at a minimum. I can take some sollace in pointing that out to passers by who might otherwise be fooled into believing you have a clue.
5261
5262That and it's fucking hilarious that you genuinely thought you'd found a proof. I mean, come the fuck on :D
5263
5264DodgyLandings
5265##	2018-06-14T22:53:01+00:00	
5266I'm about as White British as they come and I agree with everything he says so now what?
5267
5268In fact, I'd rather live next to any immigrant than some utter cunt like you. In fact I have - lived opposite a first gen immigrant who could barely speak English. Guess which one of our neighbors brought us tea and biscuits at 4am after we got burgled?
5269
5270DodgyLandings
5271##	2018-06-14T22:56:48+00:00	
5272It's not hard when your post history says it all though, is it? Deluded, racist, transphobic who honestly and genuinely thought they'd cracked a puzzle that experts have been scratching at for decades.
5273
5274What a sad, pathetic and worthless life you're no doubt going to lead. In fact, it'd be ideal if you could fuck off somewhere so we can import someone worthwhile.
5275
5276DodgyLandings
5277##	2018-06-14T22:59:54+00:00	
5278Aww, he's running away. Bless. You okay, sweetie? Maybe have a cry and solve P vs NP.
5279
5280DodgyLandings
5281##	2018-06-15T11:09:36+00:00	
5282Assuming you didn't literally just Google that for sympathy (because I can't fathom how you'd choose to omit that from your post), maybe living in one of the major world Cities isn't for you?
5283
5284DodgyLandings
5285##	2018-06-15T11:22:43+00:00	
5286Is it a formal diagnosis?
5287
5288DodgyLandings
5289##	2018-06-15T13:24:23+00:00	
5290Truthfully the only reason I give that a free pass is because he's essentially stapling dollar bills to a wall. I actually quite like his work, but I'm not morally conflicted - he shouldn't be doing it where people don't want it.
5291
5292DodgyLandings
5293##	2018-06-15T15:00:52+00:00	
5294It's an odd choice of langauge - it was used to be harsh, but it doesn't really paint the picture.
5295
5296DodgyLandings
5297##	2018-06-15T16:04:17+00:00	
5298It'll not feel so smart in a few weeks when one of them realises he's only done 30 days out of the 8-9000!
5299
5300DodgyLandings
5301##	2018-06-15T16:10:07+00:00	
5302That's a rather scathing view on MD's. You've got to profess a decent level of intelligence to become a doctor - that's pretty indesputable and it's far more than just a good memory.
5303
5304DodgyLandings
5305##	2018-06-15T17:44:16+00:00	
5306I've got the same problem since my renovation. It's my own fault for winding them up over it because they were cunts.
5307
5308I refused to confirm on the phone I didn't have a TV when retracting their implied right of access after they sent an inspector around AND sent a snotty letter around despite the fact the living room (clearly visible from the door step) didn't have a fucking floor. Litetally, it was dirt.
5309
5310So now, despite having a license I must be on some list and get the cycle of threats. I leave them to it, in the hopes that they send someone round and I can force feed them the license.
5311
5312DodgyLandings
5313##	2018-06-15T18:55:51+00:00	
5314Well, yeah, but you can say that about literally anything ever. I mean, there's a worst anything - what do you call the worst astronaut to walk on the moon?
5315
5316It just seems rather daft and disparagaing to the medical profession to imply any idiot can get through medical school and become a fully fledged doctor.
5317
5318DodgyLandings
5319##	2018-06-15T20:46:57+00:00	
5320He's fundamentally responsible for this mess, and sailed into the sunset once he'd set it into motion.
5321
5322DodgyLandings
5323##	2018-06-15T21:17:34+00:00	
5324I think it said it all that the real serious Brexit bunch fucking legged it immediately after. Not that I want Boris or Farage as PM in the slightest, but their reaction after winning was telling.
5325
5326DodgyLandings
5327##	2018-06-16T08:15:37+00:00	
5328Of course, but it'd forcing them the set a precedent.
5329
5330DodgyLandings
5331##	2018-06-16T13:56:42+00:00	
5332NHS spends 145,000 ensuring that a child isn't forced to suffer a painful and inhumane death.
5333
5334If people don't get it by now they never will.
5335
5336DodgyLandings
5337##	2018-06-16T14:44:18+00:00	
5338I still get fucking angry at this. They think anyone in a kids hospital wants a child to die?
5339
5340Unfortunately, due to a prolonged stay in PICU I've seen what it looks like - I've watched nurses faces after taking their last look at the child before they were taken. I've seen the response when an alarm goes off.
5341
5342One of our regular nurses confided in me that she was looking to move back to adult care because she couldn't handle the dark side of paediatics.
5343
5344How anyone can think that these people are doing anything but they best I can is beyond me. I can't imagine losing your child, it's got to be one of the worst things that can ever happen to a person, but this and Charlie Gard was utterly fucked up. People are sick.
5345
5346DodgyLandings
5347##	2018-06-16T16:09:34+00:00	
5348It IS a precedent (spelling!) by the very definition. It's not a legal one, but it something you can immediately point to next time.
5349
5350DodgyLandings
5351##	2018-06-16T16:26:06+00:00	
5352No? Why would it be? Examples of prior decisions by senior people would make excellent arguments.
5353
5354A legal precedent has a very specific meaning which of course doesn't apply here. But if you had a child in the same boat, you could absolutely hold this up as an example and the government are going to struggle to start coming up with excuses about why this is different.
5355
5356DodgyLandings
5357##	2018-06-16T21:32:25+00:00	
5358I hate to be that guy as I'm sure far clever people than me have worked on this, but they do realise a refridgeration unit and aircon are sort of the same thing?
5359
5360It just sounds a bit wrong that it would be more efficient.
5361
5362DodgyLandings
5363##	2018-06-17T07:52:56+00:00	
5364I've said on here before - I'm anti hunt, but it's not really up on my list of things to worry about day to day. However, whenever I see shit like this it really makes me want to head over to one.
5365
5366I'd quite enjoy seeing these lot up against a group that can handle themselves.
5367
5368DodgyLandings
5369##	2018-06-17T09:39:03+00:00	
5370It's impress feat to be so wrong and out of touch with reality in one paragraph.
5371
5372DodgyLandings
5373##	2018-06-17T09:50:27+00:00	
5374I don't see why it can't simply be both. Police numbers are utterly horrendous at the minute, I dread to think how few cops are about in your average town and city.
5375
5376As such, we are seeing a wave of crime where criminals seem to have little or no fear or being caught. Look at all the videos of bike thefts in London - they'll gladly hang around in broad daylight for minutes doing their thing.
5377
5378DodgyLandings
5379##	2018-06-17T10:20:57+00:00	
5380Yes.
5381
5382Does nothing for me whatsoever but seems pointless to pretend it's not a big thing for a lot of people
5383
5384DodgyLandings
5385##	2018-06-17T10:38:47+00:00	
5386I'm no fan of gangs or anything, I just cant help but think if these were two black lads and this had gone down on an estate then things would be very different.
5387
5388DodgyLandings
5389##	2018-06-17T10:58:50+00:00	
5390Rich people. Same as before. Rich cunts, to be specific. The political definition of fuck you, got mine.
5391
5392DodgyLandings
5393##	2018-06-17T12:23:21+00:00	
5394We'd need to do a comparison on incident rates though. There are very few Tesla's compared to other vehicles so if a high rate are bursting into flames then that's a problem.
5395
5396DodgyLandings
5397##	2018-06-17T12:26:03+00:00	
5398That's not critically, though. You need to take into account causes and rates.
5399
5400DodgyLandings
5401##	2018-06-17T12:32:43+00:00	
5402It's the batteries that are the problem. Haven't read into this specific one, but it's thermal runaway of the rechargable batteries that worries people.
5403
5404As dangerous as gasoline can be, it doesn't tend to just take it upon itself to set on fire without an outside source.
5405
5406DodgyLandings
5407##	2018-06-17T12:43:11+00:00	
5408Well, yeah, and I was better off when I lived at home.
5409
5410Not sure what her point is really - sounds like she had a pretty cushy student Life as opposed to living in poverty now.
5411
5412DodgyLandings
5413##	2018-06-17T12:53:33+00:00	
5414I disagree that it's considerably safer. Petrol alone isn't really in any danger of setting on fire, in fact you can actually douse a fire with petrol!
5415
5416DodgyLandings
5417##	2018-06-17T13:27:34+00:00	
5418Pretty much there have been far more than two. Again, not saying they are more dangerous - but yes, that's the kind of analysis it needs.
5419
5420DodgyLandings
5421##	2018-06-17T13:32:46+00:00	
5422I dunno, the overview looks pretty damning.
5423
5424DodgyLandings
5425##	2018-06-17T13:58:54+00:00	
5426I don't think the word scapegoat works when you decide to do something entirely of your own choosing, deliberately to get the exact result that you got.
5427
5428In other words - I did an utterly cuntish thing and now everyone knows I'm a fucking cunt.
5429
5430DodgyLandings
5431##	2018-06-17T14:20:57+00:00	
5432I don't think you can ever say a Primer Minister is bullied. You're either capable of leading or you're not. She's not.
5433
5434DodgyLandings
5435##	2018-06-17T14:53:05+00:00	
5436'Yet'- bit of a misleading title. Looks like they planned to have a full sprinkler system in the finished restore, but the construction firm hadn't put in a temporary one.
5437
5438While feasible, I'd like to know how common it is to have sprinkler systems active during construction.
5439
5440DodgyLandings
5441##	2018-06-17T18:25:44+00:00	
5442We don't really just jetison stuff like that - it could easily kill someone on the ground or start a fire etc. Can't think of anything other than fuel that's designed to be jettisoned in a civil aircraft, and I don't think there's anything similar in military craft either.
5443
5444DodgyLandings
5445##	2018-06-17T18:36:13+00:00	
5446I presume you're going to get in touch with the Police? If you're being serious, I'm serious - your information could be key.
5447
5448DodgyLandings
5449##	2018-06-17T19:00:45+00:00	
5450Nice - I hope it's him and they get him.
5451
5452DodgyLandings
5453##	2018-06-17T21:48:40+00:00	
5454Okay Princess.
5455
5456DodgyLandings
5457##	2018-06-17T22:06:10+00:00	
5458You realise you're wrong, though?
5459
5460Neither of your options are correct.
5461
5462DodgyLandings
5463##	2018-06-17T22:11:24+00:00	
5464You were a dick from the start. I take it you do now realise that you walked in like a tosser, spoke a load of shit and are now going to look all stupid in front of everyone.
5465
5466DodgyLandings
5467##	2018-06-17T22:25:25+00:00	
5468No then. So you lead with a logical fallacy, accuse me of being thick and then are shocked when I don't respond with sweetness and light? Maybe work on those interpersonal skills, son.
5469
5470DodgyLandings
5471##	2018-06-17T22:35:08+00:00	
5472You talked to me....
5473
5474DodgyLandings
5475##	2018-06-17T22:46:28+00:00	
5476Not really. Chope is inconsistent, his principles seem to change depending on whether it's convenient for him or not and he has a general history of being something of an arse. Beyond all that, he's now crying the victim.
5477
5478Then whatever his name his, walks in and throws a bunch of bullshit around. Chope didn't vote it down because he's worried about the bill, or worried about a lack of debate, it just seemed a convenient time to uphold his 'principles' regarding private members bills. He's now costing us money, wasting time and he's been well and truly called on it and is now hurting.
5479
5480Or, maybe yeah, every other MP is totally wrong and this guy is the only one who can save us.
5481
5482DodgyLandings
5483##	2018-06-17T23:18:29+00:00	
5484Damn that's depressing to watch compared to now.
5485
5486DodgyLandings
5487##	2018-06-18T08:20:10+00:00	
5488I think one of us is misunderstanding. I read it to say that the sprinkler system just hadn't been fully commissioned which isn't surprising. That sort of stuff is normally finished up fairly late in the day on a building project.
5489
5490DodgyLandings
5491##	2018-06-18T10:13:14+00:00	
5492See my post above - it's nothing to do with a lack of debate, and I'm even under the impression that he himself has brought forward private members bills. It just seemed to be a good moment for him to protest against the concept
5493
5494DodgyLandings
5495##	2018-06-18T10:29:49+00:00	
5496Oof that's grim. Feel for the driver.
5497
5498DodgyLandings
5499##	2018-06-18T10:29:12+00:00	
5500How is that click bait? It describes it perfectly
5501
5502DodgyLandings
5503##	2018-06-18T10:30:48+00:00	
5504Good Info, thanks. I've seen a few houses with Pre Paid meters, but always assumed it was a ten minute call to sort.
5505
5506DodgyLandings
5507##	2018-06-18T10:31:58+00:00	
5508I wonder what Laura would do with an exceptionally violent, 6ft+ 16 year old?
5509
5510DodgyLandings
5511##	2018-06-18T10:34:25+00:00	
5512Got anyone homeless staying in your house, then? Why should Mrs Jones who runs the local corner shop be forced to? Or is this just 'Big Businesses'?
5513
5514DodgyLandings
5515##	2018-06-18T12:05:41+00:00	
5516Sounds fucking sketchy. You should insist on a bank transfer - either make up an excuse (I'm not happy withdrawing, carrying and storing) that amount of cash or simply say you want and need that paper trail.
5517
5518If he pushes back, give serious consideration to leaving the deal. Talk with the letting agency and do not let them pressure you. An insistence on cash screams no paper trail and if he's willing to skip tax, it stands to reason there's a lot more going on which could mean the house is ripped from under you one day.
5519
5520In sounds minor, but this is a really really bad indicator.
5521
5522DodgyLandings
5523##	2018-06-18T12:08:12+00:00	
5524Which makes one wonder about insurance, mortgages and so on...
5525
5526DodgyLandings
5527##	2018-06-18T13:06:00+00:00	
5528No, but it's a pretty blatant indicator. With the sole exception of avoiding a paper trail, for something like this it's worse in every way.
5529
5530If we assume it's fully legit, it means more admin chasing money, finding a moment to meet, going to the bank to pay it in, writing receipts etc. Or, like near enough every single other landlord ever they could have OP set up a standing order and forget it about.
5531
5532In other words, the only reason for a landlord to prefer cash is that something iffy is going on. Whether that necessarily impacts the OP is another matter and not one we can say for sure, but honest people tend to not have an issue with transactions hitting their bank account.
5533
5534DodgyLandings
5535##	2018-06-18T13:17:42+00:00	
5536Really? From someone in a position to rent a house? If you believe that then I've got a bridge to sell you.
5537
5538DodgyLandings
5539##	2018-06-18T13:24:12+00:00	
5540Well, what precisely do you want out of it? Sounds like an unfortunate accident to me, really.
5541
5542DodgyLandings
5543##	2018-06-18T14:37:51+00:00	
5544Shame...
5545
5546DodgyLandings
5547##	2018-06-18T14:36:35+00:00	
5548What is it you people think BitCoin IS?
5549
5550DodgyLandings
5551##	2018-06-18T14:38:33+00:00	
5552Bollocks. They're still human.
5553
5554DodgyLandings
5555##	2018-06-18T14:56:09+00:00	
5556Bigotry? Sort yourself out, mate.
5557
5558DodgyLandings
5559##	2018-06-18T17:23:07+00:00	
5560Yeah, I'm well aware thanks.
5561
5562DodgyLandings
5563##	2018-06-18T17:37:30+00:00	
5564Not really. For a start, a lot of (probably most) small business owners don't sleep in their business.
5565
5566DodgyLandings
5567##	2018-06-18T19:07:04+00:00	
5568Didn't you know - the Middle East was peaceful, prosperous, forward thinking and very much United until we (insert action from last 20 years here)
5569
5570DodgyLandings
5571##	2018-06-18T19:09:41+00:00	
5572I haven't got the heart to respond to anyone individually, but where did everyone get this idea that no part of justice should be about retribution? It absolutely should be - part of prison is punishment and I don't think that's a bad thing.
5573
5574Yes, sending a 13 year old jail for nicking a car is doing more harm than good. Getting bored of your locally burgler who, at 40 is clearly never going to change isn't - at some point, people should absolutely lose their right to take part in society.
5575
5576DodgyLandings
5577##	2018-06-18T19:33:45+00:00	
5578At that point in time, perhaps not. If you think the Middle East was stable, though....
5579
5580DodgyLandings
5581##	2018-06-18T19:51:29+00:00	
5582Do we ever get much English hooligan issues at the world cup?
5583
5584DodgyLandings
5585##	2018-06-19T18:40:35+00:00	
5586Totally legal and specifically excluded from the new rules.
5587
5588And not unreasonable IMHO, it's offered as a convenient service by shops.
5589
5590DodgyLandings
5591##	2018-06-19T18:51:06+00:00	
5592Because a life sentence has a specific kind of meaning - it does not mean you have to remain in prison for the duration. Rather, it means your sentence never ends and is never spent - any time out is on license and you can be recalled pretty much at any time.
5593
5594Basically, imagine you've served 8 years of a 10 year sentence so get 2 years on license - like that, but forever.
5595
5596The minimum term is the term you must remain inside before even being eligable for any kind of parole etc.
5597
5598DodgyLandings
5599##	2018-06-19T19:19:50+00:00	
5600Excellent, no doubt you're supplying the intelligence services with considerable analysis?
5601
5602DodgyLandings
5603##	2018-06-19T19:21:17+00:00	
5604Haha, I thought you were exaggerating. They're literally quoting a neighbour as a source - excellent.
5605
5606DodgyLandings
5607##	2018-06-19T19:24:37+00:00	
5608It's all a bit Darwin Awards for me to break out the tears. Trespass on the railway while comitting another crime and cause untold suffering for the people involved in your death and the aftermath. Yeah, I've got a long list of other people to pay tribute to before I get to this lot.
5609
5610And I know Reddit has a hard on for Graffiti, but it makes a place look like shit and most of it is crap.
5611
5612DodgyLandings
5613##	2018-06-19T19:26:35+00:00	
5614Yes, that's why all concentrations of pollutants are completely uniform across the globe and country.
5615
5616DodgyLandings
5617##	2018-06-19T20:01:14+00:00	
5618Pfft. Facts.
5619
5620DodgyLandings
5621##	2018-06-19T21:59:37+00:00	
5622You said it was the most sailent point of the article, when all it means is that his uncle was a piece of shit too.
5623
5624DodgyLandings
5625##	2018-06-20T09:18:28+00:00	
5626Fuck me, you're a special kind of cunt. No wonder your username rang a bell.
5627
5628DodgyLandings
5629##	2018-06-20T10:03:23+00:00	
5630I just tell them my kid would be dead without blood transfusions and I like him more than their shit God.
5631
5632DodgyLandings
5633##	2018-06-20T10:16:19+00:00	
5634Yup. I put in fake details and site specific email addresses.
5635
5636Seeing what addresses have been leaked is interesting and annoying.
5637
5638DodgyLandings
5639##	2018-06-20T10:30:12+00:00	
5640Don't get me wrong, I'm not amazing at it - I'm lazy like most people. But I have my own domain with a catch all account (Google Apps is amazing at sorting the spam) so, for example I'd sign up with reddit@domain.com or bbc@domain.com. let me go and check you've been pwned and I'll give a quick rundown of the big names who have leaked addresses.
5641
5642DodgyLandings
5643##	2018-06-20T10:35:24+00:00	
5644Quick scan down the list. A lot of Auto generated by spam bots, but here's a sample:
5645
5646Absolute (Radio) Adobe AndroidForums Confused (dot com) Dropbox LinkedIn Monster Jobsite Virgin Travel Vision Express
5647
5648Lots more, but mostly smaller sites or local stuff (hotels thing like that)
5649
5650DodgyLandings
5651##	2018-06-20T10:47:17+00:00	
5652I don't think anybody seriously expects them to lose their faith. But I would like them to lose their faith in me ever being saved.
5653
5654DodgyLandings
5655##	2018-06-20T11:15:21+00:00	
5656And then ask how many kids they have in the church.
5657
5658DodgyLandings
5659##	2018-06-20T11:28:27+00:00	
5660Only with GMail AFAIK, or specific other operators perhaps.
5661
5662DodgyLandings
5663##	2018-06-20T11:31:50+00:00	
5664What's worse is how it would appear families have been let down by subsequent investigations. Why do people always have to push and push and push to get to the bottom of this stuff? Why did the Police not pursue it, why did the GMC not push it? Absolutely outrageous - her punishment was effectively retirement.
5665
5666DodgyLandings
5667##	2018-06-20T11:47:15+00:00	
5668Ahh...yes, I knew that'd come up. I actually researched that out of idle curiosity and boredom at the time and it's impressive. They've done it a single digits number of times for my son's surgery, and several of those patients required transfusions at the end.
5669
5670So I stand by it.
5671
5672DodgyLandings
5673##	2018-06-20T12:29:20+00:00	
5674My problem is that medical progress and decision making should be made on the basis of what's best for the patient based on on safety, outcomes, risk etc.
5675
5676I will give them that they've probably pushed hard a field that may not have been a focal point and, yes, transfusions aren't risk free. But, when it comes down to it, I want a surgeon to have all the tools at their disposal and the ability to do whatever they need to do at the time.
5677
5678Fact remains that we still need blood transfusions and to reject that based on a frankly idiotic belief is ludicrous. To reject that for your child is sickening.
5679
5680DodgyLandings
5681##	2018-06-20T12:52:18+00:00	
5682Christ that's some shit pay to be dragged over the coals when the EU laugh at us.
5683
5684DodgyLandings
5685##	2018-06-20T13:20:09+00:00	
5686Right, this is my PERSONAL advice.
5687
5688Write a letter explaining he's got 14 days to refund you the whole deposit. Don't go into detail during the letter - simply state that, to your knowledge, there are no outstanding costs and the deposit is outstanding.
5689
5690Then, again my advice - hand deliver it. Knock the door, hand it him and tell him straight up you want your deposit back or you'll take him to court. You can also send a copy recorded mail if you're worried about him denying it.
5691
5692I'm going to be blunt - people like this need to be treated firmly and directly, not with kid gloves. If he wants to dock your deposit he needs to find himself some evidence and provide you some proof.
5693
5694DodgyLandings
5695##	2018-06-20T13:25:30+00:00	
5696Your post history is exactly what I imagined.
5697
5698DodgyLandings
5699##	2018-06-20T17:18:02+00:00	
5700Oh no, I absolutely want my major trauma center to be more concerned about my arbitary rules than doing whatever they can to save life and limb
5701
5702DodgyLandings
5703##	2018-06-20T18:51:08+00:00	
5704Aw, hope they get reunited.
5705
5706DodgyLandings
5707##	2018-06-21T08:43:41+00:00	
5708Am I the only one who has real trouble with Twitter links not working? Nearly always get Twitter is taking too long.
5709
5710DodgyLandings
5711##	2018-06-21T08:55:46+00:00	
5712Oh right, cos it's literally impossible to make money otherwise. Nice to know that all doctors and surgeons are only exploiting other people's labour for their own gain.
5713
5714You people talk some utter shite.
5715
5716DodgyLandings
5717##	2018-06-21T09:01:59+00:00	
5718Literally says nothing about your comment. Parents SHOULD be assisting their children and helping them, the issue is the support we give to the others.
5719
5720Point is, to say that nobodies parents can have earnt their money through hard work is just pathetic.
5721
5722DodgyLandings
5723##	2018-06-21T09:04:41+00:00	
5724Nowadays, really fucking bad - I'm lucky to get a 5km in week to week. Having kids has taken a serious toll on my ability to find time for it.
5725
5726A few years ago I was doing 10 milers a couple of times a week, and often a longer 13-15mi on a weekend. Did some races, endurance challenge etc. I'd very much like to get back to that.
5727
5728DodgyLandings
5729##	2018-06-21T09:34:27+00:00	
5730No, you're missing the point. Here's what you said:
5731
5732Person B's predecessors did not work hard.
5733
5734They either got lucky or exploited someone. Most likely both.
5735
5736Back that up, or retract it, but don't move the goalpost. Are you telling me that not a single Doctor, who has kids, has worked hard in order to provide for those kids?
5737
5738DodgyLandings
5739##	2018-06-21T12:49:16+00:00	
5740Well, yeah, he would have died. The question is - if we accept somebodies death is guaranteed do we not care about the 'how'?
5741
5742Is dying while in the excellent care of GOSH the same as dying on a plane, in a van or under the 'care' of a scam artist?
5743
5744You can see how much they're reaching here, because they are quite literally admitting that their actions didn't necessarily have his best interests at heart. I mean, it's obvious why, but they wanted him alive because they couldn't bear his death. But his being 'alive' involved being dragged around the world so random people could try random things. Medically, they'd have been as well taking him up a mountain' to see a monk.
5745
5746DodgyLandings
5747##	2018-06-21T12:54:43+00:00	
5748Exactly. The needs and wants of parents should have considerable weight, but always number 2 to the patient.
5749
5750I'll always feel for them, like I feel for any loving parent that loses a child. And I know it's rooted in them not wanting to lose him, but surely they can see how warped this is becoming. They literally want the law to shrug and say 'Well, he's fucked anyway - yeah, crack on' like it's your wannabe mechanic mate having a go fixing your old Rover.
5751
5752As ever, and just like Alfie Evans, there's a poor child at the root of all this and the courts only ever concerned themselves with facts, medical science and what was best. What more, as loving parents, can we ask?
5753
5754DodgyLandings
5755##	2018-06-21T13:03:59+00:00	
5756I think feminism (And I just want to clarify I'm way more feminist than I am some kind of MRA!) will always struggle here. Sex work has some obvious problems, but taking work off women and/or telling them they can't or shouldn't be doing it is really just as bad.
5757
5758And I think Strip Clubs are just as difficult to quantify - yes, the women are being objectified 100 percent. But, they are also 'fooling' men into thinking they have some kind of chance, and taking a whole bunch of change off them.
5759
5760In short, I'm not really sure where I fall on it. Are strip clubs a 'good' thing for society? Not really, I suppose. But neither are betting shops. Is banning them and telling women what they should and shouldn't be any better? Not in my opinion, no.
5761
5762DodgyLandings
5763##	2018-06-21T13:10:23+00:00	
5764Absolutely - the old profession thing doesn't exist for no reason. For as long as blokes stay biologically the same, and for as long as there are women willing to do it, sexual services will exist. You aren't ever going to legislate them out of existence.
5765
5766DodgyLandings
5767##	2018-06-21T13:17:25+00:00	
5768Yep, my big worry is that's it totally ripe for all the emotive arguments to come back out which gain traction with the 'who cares about the details' brigade.
5769
5770I expect a lot of talk about 'chances' and 'murder', and no doubt the American funding will start flowing in. Still hoping to see the cunt from Alfie Evans hauled over at some point.
5771
5772DodgyLandings
5773##	2018-06-21T14:18:34+00:00	
5774So I'm massively struggling with that article - was the fraud charge for the marathon, or for the other bits mentioned? There's a lot mixed in there.
5775
5776DodgyLandings
5777##	2018-06-21T17:58:01+00:00	
5778Uh, no, he was nicking it.
5779
5780DodgyLandings
5781##	2018-06-21T18:23:36+00:00	
5782You clearly know nothing about what they do or why, so why are you asking pointed questions?
5783
5784DodgyLandings
5785##	2018-06-21T20:31:54+00:00	
5786Well, then they pay their 19 percent like everyone else, as that's what the current tax rate is. If you don't have expenses or people then that's what you'll pay - the same as everyone else.
5787
5788DodgyLandings
5789##	2018-06-21T20:30:26+00:00	
5790And if you understood how they do it, you'd understand why it's so tricky to resolve.
5791
5792Fucking every other business over is hardly the soltion is it - it'd put most businesses under because it's such a ludicrous idea.
5793
5794What is it about the internet that makes people with no knowledge about any of it think they have the answer.
5795
5796You don't understand the business model and you don't understand tax, but fuck me Dave, you've cracked it. Well done.
5797
5798DodgyLandings
5799##	2018-06-21T20:46:13+00:00	
5800What can you say, broadly she's right? I mean, it's not unique to poor white communities but anti-intellectualism is definitely a huge thing in those areas. You're far more likely to be mocked as a geek, than you are to be celebrated for your A+ exam result on your average horrible estate.
5801
5802Contrast that with other cultures that absolutely strive to push their children (perhaps far too hard in some cases) to get top grades etc and there's definitely a cultural divide.
5803
5804DodgyLandings
5805##	2018-06-21T20:54:36+00:00	
5806What can you say, broadly she's right? I mean, it's not unique to poor white communities but anti-intellectualism is definitely a huge thing in those areas. You're far more likely to be mocked as a geek, than you are to be celebrated for your A+ exam result on your average horrible estate.
5807
5808Contrast that with other cultures that absolutely strive to push their children (perhaps far too hard in some cases) to get top grades etc and there's definitely a cultural divide.
5809
5810DodgyLandings
5811##	2018-06-21T21:22:12+00:00	
5812And why do you think nobody is bombing the UK? Why do you think that nobody is bombing Western Europe? Why do you think that the UK has a seat at some of the biggest tables in the world?
5813
5814The world isn't a fairly tale - we and our allies don't get attacked because we can stand a massive fight. We've had several huge wars in living memory, and we were attacked out of the blue a few decades ago. People who fought in the Falklands haven't even retired yet FFS.
5815
5816DodgyLandings
5817##	2018-06-21T21:42:06+00:00	
5818And what if every ally gave up arms and left NATO? You think the world would be fun then?
5819
5820You don't think military power is a HUGE function of geopolitics?
5821
5822You don't think we have enemies? Okay, really dunno what to say to that.
5823
5824And as for your last paragraph, well, perhaps you can say that face to face to the Falklanders, veterans and widows.
5825
5826DodgyLandings
5827##	2018-06-21T21:55:15+00:00	
5828I....uh..really? I'm not sure how to get into this without going down the route of horrid stereotypes, but you don't think there's a distinct subset of people who really don't get the importance of studying, knowledge and education?
5829
5830DodgyLandings
5831##	2018-06-21T22:05:10+00:00	
5832Bit of both, I suppose. Slightly hyperbolic as I say, but it's the general lack of valuing knowledge
5833
5834DodgyLandings
5835##	2018-06-21T22:11:27+00:00	
5836Ukraine. Crimea. Georgia. Syria.
5837
5838I'm really not arsed any more - no idea what planet you're on to be honest.
5839
5840DodgyLandings
5841##	2018-06-21T22:27:49+00:00	
5842Holy I shit, I thought the joke was that she didn't catch it.
5843
5844Cunt move, either way, though - he just managed to make it double cunty.
5845
5846DodgyLandings
5847##	2018-06-22T07:07:51+00:00	
5848Yes, I could have been much clearer. Just wanted to make the point that it's not some kind of ancient history.
5849
5850DodgyLandings
5851##	2018-06-22T07:44:53+00:00	
5852Ah, okay, so your primary arguments are that Russia lack the economic or military capability (Because that wouldn't or couldn't change if we all downed arms and left them to it), and that they're just people.
5853
5854Unfortunately, in case you hadn't noticed, 'people' have been responsible for every single war, attrocity, massacre, uprising, invasion and empire building since the dawn of time. The German Army were people, the Hutus were people, Serbs were people etc etc etc.
5855
5856DodgyLandings
5857##	2018-06-22T08:11:28+00:00	
5858You raised my blood pressure.
5859
5860DodgyLandings
5861##	2018-06-22T08:16:37+00:00	
5862Just out of curiosity, do you think we should have have ignored the Falklands? I know the why's of the invasion, it was a stupid idea then as it is now, but they still did it and I'm not sure of your point. If anything, it proves that you can never be quite sure what come random country is going to do out of desperation.
5863
5864Either we let a British territory fall to an enemy, which sets a dangerous precedent or we fight. To fight, we still need that military.
5865
5866DodgyLandings
5867##	2018-06-22T08:25:57+00:00	
5868Well, no, you said it.
5869
5870DodgyLandings
5871##	2018-06-22T08:45:09+00:00	
5872I'm not so sure I agree. Your 'working class'* parents probably aren't going to slag you off if you eventually become a doctor or scientists etc, but I know a lot of people who definitely wouldn't have had the support to do the necessary work to get there. Unfortunately I know of people who were downright discouraged from spending time on study, self education etc.
5873
5874On the contrary, your average middle class parents are going to push you to achieve, be disappointed with bad results, make you do homework etc.
5875
5876*I just want to make clear right now that I think this whole thread/article is really about a subset of society, which are predominantly working class. I don't think all working class people are like this, not even close.
5877
5878DodgyLandings
5879##	2018-06-22T08:50:21+00:00	
5880That all atheists are incels? Makes sense, yeah. I'll ask my wife, see what she thinks.
5881
5882DodgyLandings
5883##	2018-06-22T10:18:14+00:00	
5884I think all this projection says far more about your love life than it does mine, bud.
5885
5886DodgyLandings
5887##	2018-06-22T11:09:16+00:00	
5888I recently saw someone put the WATER in first. Broken Britain
5889
5890DodgyLandings
5891##	2018-06-22T11:08:24+00:00	
5892As opposed to your excellent, well thought out and articulated points?
5893
5894DodgyLandings
5895##	2018-06-22T11:19:32+00:00	
5896Eh, I can't stand criminality but if I was seriously struggling to feed my kids I'd probably take a punt from a supermarket or something.
5897
5898I'd argue that we as a nation are more morally corrupt for allowing people to get into that situation than they are for going into survival mode.
5899
5900DodgyLandings
5901##	2018-06-22T11:48:23+00:00	
5902That's seriously where you're going to go with that argument? What a ridiculous retort.
5903
5904But, since you ask - if someone were to pose a serious and immediate threat to life or limb then I'd consider it morally acceptable to kill them
5905
5906DodgyLandings
5907##	2018-06-22T12:06:50+00:00	
5908Ah, right. Like how speeding is a slippery slope to genocice?
5909
5910DodgyLandings
5911##	2018-06-22T12:20:54+00:00	
5912If there is a slippery slope from stealing to feed your family (which I doubt there is), then my argument remains the same - it's societies job to protect the most vulnerable so they never even venture down that path.
5913
5914Me? I can't imagine any set of events where I'd go on to murder an innocent person.
5915
5916Now answer my question - do you think speeding leads to genocide?
5917
5918DodgyLandings
5919##	2018-06-22T12:30:21+00:00	
5920I suspect the mods don't like you because you're an idiot.
5921
5922We aren't talking about generic theft, it's a specific discussion about a specific type of crime. The article even specifically mentions food (You know, that stuff you said isn't stolen).
5923
5924But, you're obviously a troll and not a particularly clever one at that.
5925
5926DodgyLandings
5927##	2018-06-22T12:39:22+00:00	
5928No it doesn't you tit.
5929
5930DodgyLandings
5931##	2018-06-22T12:43:47+00:00	
5932'think', that'll be a problem.
5933
5934DodgyLandings
5935##	2018-06-22T13:03:01+00:00	
593640k in the bank. Was hoping to do something useful with it, but suspect I may end up needing it :(
5937
5938DodgyLandings
5939##	2018-06-22T13:26:08+00:00	
5940Not really - they're making the point that she was reasonably fit and able. This isn't some old granny falling over, it's a capable person getting stuck.
5941
5942And it's grim as, tbh.
5943
5944DodgyLandings
5945##	2018-06-22T13:28:19+00:00	
5946Wow - if only there was some amazing crystal ball technology that could have foreseen this shit show. I can't believe NOBODY thought it'd go so badly.
5947
5948DodgyLandings
5949##	2018-06-22T13:40:13+00:00	
5950Yep, pretty terrifying to be honest. We all like to believe we'd be able to do something in that situation, but it seems like she tried most things.
5951
5952DodgyLandings
5953##	2018-06-22T13:43:43+00:00	
5954The above is fine, but it's worth bearing in mind that "you" can't. You can't just randomly pick a country and declare that your businesses head office.
5955
5956I'm not saying the law isn't flawed or anything like that - but if it was that easy literally every business would do it. And they don't, because HMRC really don't like it and they can and will take you to court over it.
5957
5958DodgyLandings
5959##	2018-06-22T16:37:15+00:00	
5960Eh, more luck than judgement really. I wound up creating some intellectual property that I was able to sell and license out.
5961
5962DodgyLandings
5963##	2018-06-22T16:41:02+00:00	
5964Couldn't agree more. Feral underclass with little to no fear. Is it worth losing your life over a bike - of course not, but I can't bear the message that we should just roll over. And no matter the value, it's awful having your shit stolen.
5965
5966Quite sobering though, as it's definitely the kind of thing I would, and have, confront people over.
5967
5968DodgyLandings
5969##	2018-06-22T18:35:18+00:00	
5970Yes, and this is spurred by a recent video of someone being taken off a horse because of it.
5971
5972DodgyLandings
5973##	2018-06-22T18:37:53+00:00	
5974To be fair, racing bikes go at a good clip. Easily 30mph plus which is more than enough to damage somebody.
5975
5976The problem is more that they treat the roads as though they're closed. Whether it's worth banning or not I don't really have a personal opinion on, but I can definitely see how it's a problem.
5977
5978You'd go to jail for organising a car race like that, so it does seem odd you can have a hundred bikes doing it.
5979
5980On the other hand, I've watched an ironman event on public roads and it all seemed to work okay.
5981
5982DodgyLandings
5983##	2018-06-22T19:46:18+00:00	
5984Worst. Advice. Ever.
5985
5986Not only is it just an utterly stupid thing to do, but what it actually does is delay the response while they sort out getting said armed police.
5987
5988DodgyLandings
5989##	2018-06-22T20:17:25+00:00	
5990I don't think you know what average means.
5991
5992DodgyLandings
5993##	2018-06-22T20:28:27+00:00	
5994Okay. So, two things - they definitely break speed limits on downhill sections. I've done that on a mountain bike FFS.
5995
5996Secondly, I never mentioned speeding - it's the speed at which you can hurt somebody and the manner in which they ride.
5997
5998More to the point why the fuck are you getting into this shit with me, when all I did was briefly present the broad argument. You realise this is in response to that accident, right?
5999
6000DodgyLandings
6001##	2018-06-22T21:19:51+00:00	
6002Cheers, I only watched it once on my phone.
6003
6004DodgyLandings
6005##	2018-06-22T22:53:56+00:00	
6006Out of intense boredom and curiosity at their aggression I had a scan of their post history and I suspect they've got a few issues. Homophobic, too which is nice.
6007
6008DodgyLandings
6009##	2018-06-23T08:00:22+00:00	
6010My bad!
6011
6012DodgyLandings
6013##	2018-06-23T11:33:37+00:00	
6014Always seemed to be the fairest way to me. Doesn't seem right that someone who drives 10 miles a year pays the same VED as someoje who drives 50,000 just for owning a car.
6015
6016But, while it works great for petrol and Diesel iy totally falls down for electric. Which may be taxed low at the minute, but that won't last. It was never an emissions tax and it hasn't been a road tax for decades - it's simply a generic tax for the priveledge of owning a car, which they sometimes use to encourage behaviour.
6017
6018DodgyLandings
6019##	2018-06-23T11:34:36+00:00	
6020Haha, wow. That's got to be the most classic example of tax them, not me.
6021
6022I presume this mystery threshold will be more than you've ever got in your bank?
6023
6024Pathetic.
6025
6026DodgyLandings
6027##	2018-06-23T18:43:33+00:00	
6028Sometimes I sit here and think this sub is populated by fucking children.
6029
6030DodgyLandings
6031##	2018-06-23T18:46:24+00:00	
6032The problem is what it really means is you either don't both earning it (Because who needs enterprise) or you'll do anything to avoid it.
6033
6034I honestly don't know what planet these people are on. If I reach my 'savings limit' or whatever it is then why on Earth would I continue to work and pay tax on those earnings for literally no benefit.
6035
6036DodgyLandings
6037##	2018-06-23T20:48:15+00:00	
6038Channel 4 turned shit.
6039
6040DodgyLandings
6041##	2018-06-24T08:08:19+00:00	
6042It's 9am on a Sunday morning
6043
6044DodgyLandings
6045##	2018-06-24T15:15:54+00:00	
604651 previous offences....
6047
6048DodgyLandings
6049##	2018-06-25T06:20:54+00:00	
6050I disagree with this analysis. Go anywhere now and you'll see homeless and it's something that has exploded over the last few years.
6051
6052DodgyLandings
6053##	2018-06-25T06:24:02+00:00	
6054Utter shite. People are now seeing and feeling the effects of ten years of underfunding and austerity. It's visible, it's obvious and it's in your face.
6055
6056DodgyLandings
6057##	2018-06-25T06:46:09+00:00	
6058His own, which actually SHOW the increase.
6059
6060DodgyLandings
6061##	2018-06-25T06:59:40+00:00	
6062Different stats mate, we are looking at rough sleepers specifically.
6063
6064DodgyLandings
6065##	2018-06-25T07:10:52+00:00	
6066To be honest, having now bothered to familiarize myself with the actual stats rather than his cherry picked nonsense the numbers are far from pretty:
6067
6068http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02007/SN02007.pdf
6069
6070DodgyLandings
6071##	2018-06-25T07:37:15+00:00	
6072The last three are directly linked. I don't buy the first one, really - I doubt many rough sleepers just need(ed) their rent to be a bit cheaper.
6073
6074DodgyLandings
6075##	2018-06-25T07:54:45+00:00	
6076Yes, but in tiny numbers in comparison. Labour had actually worked very hard and successfully to reduce rough sleeping.
6077
6078Kind of like how there was crime, too, but sometimes they'd even catch somebody.
6079
6080DodgyLandings
6081##	2018-06-25T07:56:32+00:00	
6082http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN02007/SN02007.pdf
6083
6084Enjoy.
6085
6086DodgyLandings
6087##	2018-06-25T08:51:58+00:00	
6088On a personal level, this thread has interested me because I recently spent some time in a city I've not been in for a while and it's fucking awful. And the crime is untrue, I went to the same mini supermarket two days in a row. One day I saw a shoplifter fighting with security, the next I'd just missed someone being robbed at a cash point. Spice heads everywhere, too. Aggressive begging. Proper 3rd world
6089
6090DodgyLandings
6091##	2018-06-25T09:38:47+00:00	
6092Maaate, everyone else is explaining the detail but you're showing yourself up to be painfully, shockingly naive.
6093
6094I know it's a horrible thing and this kid could be 100 percent genuine, but you don't know. You're opening yourself up to allsorts, from being a victim of crime to being a victim of accusations.
6095
6096There are so so many better ways to help without opening yourself up like this.
6097
6098DodgyLandings
6099##	2018-06-25T09:44:03+00:00	
6100Honestly, I'm not convinced there isn't more to this story. It sounds fucking iffy - either OP is genuinely societally inept (Like, to a medical level) or there's more to it.
6101
6102I can't think how any grown person with a house would see that as a clever thing to do.
6103
6104DodgyLandings
6105##	2018-06-25T09:58:10+00:00	
6106You don't even know him. Wait til you find out he was kicked out for fiddling with his sister or some shit..
6107
6108DodgyLandings
6109##	2018-06-25T10:35:38+00:00	
6110It's not about belief - you ARE being naive.
6111
6112DodgyLandings
6113##	2018-06-25T10:46:02+00:00	
6114No. The people you wanted to listen to said a lot of things. The facts of what Brexit entailed always said quite clearly that there would be some huge struggles.
6115
6116I mean, if you think all that horror is worth it then I can respect that to some degree. Thinking Brexit was magically going to happen and all the good stuff would remain the same is utter stupidity.
6117
6118DodgyLandings
6119##	2018-06-25T11:01:14+00:00	
6120Okay princess, keep your knickers on.
6121
6122DodgyLandings
6123##	2018-06-25T14:47:37+00:00	
6124That's my thought. That stinks of being written by a white Brit.
6125
6126DodgyLandings
6127##	2018-06-25T19:46:36+00:00	
6128£170 on a top spec Astra. Down payment was a few k, mind. I did the sums at the time and preferred it over owning brand new and I don't like buying expensive second hand cars* - it's a massive peace of mind for the other half when I'm away, as she's got the baby etc. It's a also a really nice car TBH.
6129
6130Other than that, everything else we've got (My car, motorbike, classic cars) is old and owned outright which is by far what I prefer. I tend to do most of my own mechanical work and servicing so costs are minimal but old cars do need more TLC.
6131
6132But, I must admit, we've had the lease for 12 months and I don't bemoan it at all - I'll probably do another one. Yes, pound for pound I'm paying for the privilege but it is nice having a hassle free car.
6133
6134*Mainly through personal experience and of seeing people getting done over. If I'm going second hand, it needs to be "throw away" money where I won't be suicidal if it breaks. £3-4k at the most.
6135
6136DodgyLandings
6137##	2018-06-25T19:51:00+00:00	
6138Haha, yup. This is the 1.4 Turbo and it's a great little machine - all leather, all the toys - it's a really nice place to be.
6139
6140I forgot to add, it was an end of quarter "deal". It was actually a massive bonus for me, basically the car "existed" in real life rather than being ordered - so it was cheaper and we got it like 10 days. Couldn't customise it or anything of course.
6141
6142DodgyLandings
6143##	2018-06-25T21:45:07+00:00	
6144Depends on your appetite for risk, too. For a while I had a pretty generous car allowance as the job role wanted an under 3 year old car.
6145
6146Some people took it and signed in for a 3-4 year lease on a top whack car.
6147
6148I got a nice enough car, but on a short term rolling contract. I was paying way over the odds for that particular car, BUT I could (and did) walk away at any point. People tend to be ridiculously short-term. Maybe it's because I literally started at the bottom on min wage, but losing my income is always in my mind and I work hard to reduce the impact of that ever happening. Other people seem to just assume they'll always be getting a salary each month forever more.
6149
6150DodgyLandings
6151##	2018-06-26T07:30:10+00:00	
6152I'm so bored of hearing this guff.
6153
6154We are number 9 on the worldwide military strength index, and are renowned for having a highly trained, effective and capable fighting force.
6155
6156We are able to project our force relatively well , and that's getting better soon.
6157
6158We are, along with France, the premier fighting force in Europe and thats actually something of a concern now we are moving away from our neighbours.
6159
6160Once again, we aren't some crappy backwater nobody has heard of and I don't understand this subs desperate need to pretend we are.
6161
6162DodgyLandings
6163##	2018-06-26T07:44:30+00:00	
6164They no doubt have nice hospitals and excellent facilities etc, but I gather this doesn't really equate to better outcomes overall.
6165
6166DodgyLandings
6167##	2018-06-26T07:58:09+00:00	
6168Really? You think a copper is going to risk his career, pension and potentially liberty just to mess with some random off the Internet? Sort it out.
6169
6170DodgyLandings
6171##	2018-06-26T08:00:13+00:00	
6172List 99
6173
6174DodgyLandings
6175##	2018-06-26T08:03:29+00:00	
6176That makes sense - quite a gamble
6177
6178DodgyLandings
6179##	2018-06-26T09:32:08+00:00	
6180Why not humour him and answer the question, given that you presented it as a factual statement.
6181
6182increasing our defence budget by 50% is the difference between being fucked and being safe?
6183
6184Pretty much nothing in life works like that and you damn well know it. It's a balance, as ever, and it's fine to have a debate over that - but calling it "ridiculous" and declaring we have no external threats is neither a debate nor rooted in reality.
6185
6186DodgyLandings
6187##	2018-06-26T09:58:19+00:00	
6188I do not believe we have any significant threats.
6189
6190Interesting addition of "significant". Small detail, the problem is that a small threat can grow into a big threat - especially if they're left to their own devices and given increased confidence. Look at how Germany rebuilt, in secret and rolled out to be an absolutely huge threat to everyone.
6191
6192Nobody would have declared Argentina any particular threat, but they stupidly decided to start a rumble anyway. Again, it's this massive overconfidence that scares me - it takes a long time to get a military operational, and if you start to lose that you've lost it for decades and maybe more. And then the nibbles start - a little blocade here, a bit of pressure there, the odd "we'll have that island, thanks" and very quickly we're in trouble.
6193
6194Either way, if you don't think Russia, China, North Korea, Iran aren't, or couldn't quickly become, threats then you're on another planet. We rely hugely on both import and export and it doesn't take much to start to reak havok on that. Sure, the days of thinking the Russians are likely to roll over the hills may be over (But remember, that shit is well within living memory, too) - but that doesn't stop the other side. They're still empire building, they're definitely in the cyber arena and they'd love nothing more to keep pushing the West.
6195
6196believe most of our military involvements in my lifetime have been unnecessary or detrimental, and have generally served to increase the level of threat to this country.
6197
6198I agree, to some extent - though you could write a whole PhD on that.
6199
6200I believe there are a number of countries similar in size to the UK who are significantly safer as a result of having a smaller military presence.
6201
6202Name some, that aren't either much smaller in GDP terms and don't rely heavily on external protection? I guarantee the Eastern Bloc are very happy to be sat near us.
6203
6204I would rather see increased military spending as a result of increased GDP rather than an arbitrary decision.
6205
6206Well, it's set in percentage terms and that's pretty much how it works. We have to put 2% in for NATO, anyway.
6207
6208How can we justify making life in this country (even) worse,
6209
6210Define worse - sure, it'd be great to spend it all on the NHS and Schools. But they also need stability and a strong country to be effective. At least we're getting into some discussion, there. I'm not saying it should be 3%, but I do think that the military is currently operating at its bare bones.
6211
6212as a result of threats that I do not personally believe in?
6213
6214Well, the problem is that your beliefs don't map to what's outside. I don't believe in cancer, so maybe we should stop funding research into it? Honestly, this concept that we don't have any threats is making your argument beyond weak.
6215
6216DodgyLandings
6217##	2018-06-26T13:04:11+00:00	
6218No.
6219
6220DodgyLandings
6221##	2018-06-26T13:11:17+00:00	
6222If the UK's military vanished overnight, absolutely nothing would change. Nothing.
6223
6224Can't even be arsed reading and responding to the rest, because this is just absolute complete and utter bollocks and you know it.
6225
6226DodgyLandings
6227##	2018-06-26T13:13:34+00:00	
6228Except nobody said "national speed limit". There's nothing intrinsic about dual carriageways alone that mean they're likely to be national speed limit. Many will be marked 40, 50 or 60.
6229
6230DodgyLandings
6231##	2018-06-26T22:23:46+00:00	
6232That's a bit like saying all single lane roads are 60. It's somewhat disingenuous - the national speed limit is 70 for dual carriageways, but it's not really a 'default' speed and the vast vast majority will be specifically signposted. You certainly can't presume a stretch of dual carriageway is 70.
6233
6234I'm not even convinced by your assertion that it requires a sign to the contrary - the link doesn't say that?
6235
6236DodgyLandings
6237##	2018-06-26T22:30:00+00:00	
6238Standalone GPS is nowhere near as consistently accurate as people think. Sat Navs get away with a lot because of the snap-to ability, but as youve seen that only takes you so far.
6239
6240DodgyLandings
6241##	2018-06-26T22:31:00+00:00	
6242I love that I got downvoted. The majority of the dual carriageways near me have long since been downgraded to 60 and 50.
6243
6244DodgyLandings
6245##	2018-06-27T00:03:04+00:00	
6246So, I wound up using a Quashqai (No, I'm not spell checking it) for 2 weeks and it's hands down the most disappointing thing I've ever had. Slow, awful to drive and to top it off, not that much room.
6247
6248They're literally all the drawbacks of all the cars from what I can see. At least a massive Landy is massive. These are just shit.
6249
6250DodgyLandings
6251##	2018-06-27T00:04:51+00:00	
6252Not disagreeing with you, but yup, complete with 2 wheel drive on low profile summer tyres - lovely!
6253
6254DodgyLandings
6255##	2018-06-27T08:07:04+00:00	
6256I was banned from McDonalds in my hometown because 13 year old me and my friends thought we were the height of hilarity and kept demanding Pepsi when they serve Coke amongst other things. We caused a queue, and my mate then asked to see the manager, who told us in no uncertain terms to fuck off.
6257
6258DodgyLandings
6259##	2018-06-27T08:20:39+00:00	
6260Yes, but they aren't firms. This helps you very little, but you need to find a small one man band type window company.
6261
6262Had ours done over the course of a renovation - lovely windows, the guy who is doing comes to quote and was insanely cheap.
6263
6264I refuse to deal with any of that shit - I want one price, I want a builder not a salesman and I want no spiel.
6265
6266DodgyLandings
6267##	2018-06-27T09:13:29+00:00	
6268Oh this shit again. Yes, many years often doing 30,000 miles per year and at one point I was blue light trained.
6269
6270Which bit is 'shite'? Was it the bit I copied and pasted from his gov link? How many completely unposted roads are there in the UK that are safe and suitable for doing 60-70mph?
6271
6272DodgyLandings
6273##	2018-06-27T09:24:31+00:00	
6274Which bit is nonsense?
6275
6276And yes, I drive.
6277
6278DodgyLandings
6279##	2018-06-27T09:37:05+00:00	
6280You realise people choose their vows? Some people like it old school.
6281
6282And that's a church wedding. Honestly, as someone who did the registry office thing I honestly don't really get it.
6283
6284I agree with the ruling, because it shows the current system up to be the pathetic church-appeasing faff it is - but on a personal level I really don't see much difference.
6285
6286DodgyLandings
6287##	2018-06-27T09:40:30+00:00	
6288So genuine question - what is it about a civil ceremony that you can't stand, that's cured by this?
6289
6290DodgyLandings
6291##	2018-06-27T09:48:28+00:00	
6292Which bit is wrong? How many completely non signed dual carriageways (that aren't motorsays) are there in the UK?
6293
6294His link doesn't support what he said (Though in fairness I can find reference to the concept of non signed roads being NSL but I remain a bit skeptical. Either way, they must be few and far between - I'd not feel comfortable doing 70 on an non signed road)
6295
6296DodgyLandings
6297##	2018-06-27T12:14:40+00:00	
6298Well, I'm not so sure the majority are for a start. Maybe country wide by mileage because they'll often be long roads, but put a pin in a random dual carriageway within 20 miles of me and youre vastly more likely to get a ring road or bypass that's 40, 50 or 60.
6299
6300Secondly, my entire point is that you can't just see dual carriageway and think 70mph. Im still not sure what you're getting at here - do you think non 70mph dual carriageways are rare?
6301
6302No idea what point your last paragraph is making either. If the single Lane is NSL then the dual bit will be too, that's not complex.
6303
6304DodgyLandings
6305##	2018-06-27T12:57:16+00:00	
6306Oh, you're being snarky again because you can't actually formulate whatever shite you're on about.
6307
6308I'm guessing you yourself don't drive, or don't understand that a good portion of the country is built up with lots and lots and LOTS of non NSL dual carriageway.
6309
6310DodgyLandings
6311##	2018-06-27T13:11:41+00:00	
6312Well, he's a fucking cunt:
6313
6314http://www.cmfblog.org.uk/author/peter/
6315
6316Fucking religion AGAIN telling people that their life of misery is best for them.
6317
6318DodgyLandings
6319##	2018-06-27T13:16:45+00:00	
6320I was on the fence for a while - or rather, I could see strong arguments either way.
6321
6322Until, a few years back that they had a debate on R4 and some campaigner outright told some seriously ill quadriplegic that she knew other people who'd gone on to have full lives to and he should concentrate on doing that instead of trying to die.
6323
6324That's paraphrased of course, but I don't think I've ever felt so so angry at a radio before. She absolutely sickened me, and ever since then I've realised how wrong it is to tell somebody they don't have or deserve control over their life.
6325
6326Suicide and similar should absolutely be discouraged and be a last resort, but forcing somebody to live like that is absolute torture.
6327
6328DodgyLandings
6329##	2018-06-27T13:43:22+00:00	
6330That's an insane statistic - I can't fathom how it's correct, to be honest. 40 in the WHOLE country?
6331
6332DodgyLandings
6333##	2018-06-27T14:07:10+00:00	
6334I'm noticing a lot of that sort of propaganda popping up on Facebook now. The 'they fought for x' and such. And how ungrateful the younger kids are blah de blah.
6335
6336I don't think people realise how old and how few vets there are. I think it's telling that most people talking about such things are clearly from the generation after, the ones who never got bombed or had to fight.
6337
6338DodgyLandings
6339##	2018-06-27T20:13:19+00:00	
6340Stranger rape, outdoors, CCTV evidence.
6341
6342DodgyLandings
6343##	2018-06-28T15:07:40+00:00	
6344I think it's very misguided to blame the judges here. This has been an ongoing trend for a long time, set by the government through policy and sentencing guidelines to limit the number of people sent to jail.
6345
6346Ultimately, this is due to prison overcrowding due to our unwillingness to build and manage new ones.
6347
6348While judges can choose to err on the side of harsher or more lenient sentences, when all said and done, they're working within the context of the guidelines and what the bigger picture is.
6349
6350DodgyLandings
6351##	2018-06-28T15:10:58+00:00	
6352Except you're wrong there. The judge has a lot of discussion, but they aren't 'in charge' of setting that sentencing. And that's the point - if he's being sentenced within the right ballpark then there's little anyone can do unless those guidelines change.
6353
6354The approach is set from the government, not individual judges. That's the whole point
6355
6356DodgyLandings
6357##	2018-06-29T10:23:44+00:00	
6358The problem with manslaughter is that you need to prove a bunch of other things, and if you don't, you risk losing the whole thing.
6359
6360For example, I think you'd probably need to meet this test:
6361
6362the defendant's unlawful act (not omission);
6363
6364where the unlawful act is one which all sober and reasonable people would realise would subject the victim to the risk of some physical harm resulting there from, albeit not serious harm R v Williams and Davis (1992) 2 All ER 183;
6365
6366whether or not the defendant realised this.
6367
6368(https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/homicide-murder-and-manslaughter)
6369
6370I don't think we have much precedent for charging vehicular crimes as manslaughter unless it's someone setting out to do something deliberately dangerous.
6371
6372Legislation wise, I think Death By works perfectly - the problem is the sentencing.
6373
6374DodgyLandings
6375##	2018-06-29T10:24:44+00:00	
6376You think this guy is a gammon? God it's such a stupid term and is rapdily becoming the left wing equivalent of virtue signalling
6377
6378DodgyLandings
6379##	2018-06-29T13:28:14+00:00	
6380For that bit I copied, it means that you need to demonstrate that he committed an unlawful act. Rather than omitted to do something, unless that in itself constitutes an offence. So, for a crap example, failing to give first aid wouldn't count (for that particular section) because there's no law saying you should.
6381
6382That's my understanding anyway - the law itself is quite complex and has loads of other bits, too.
6383
6384DodgyLandings
6385##	2018-06-29T13:41:21+00:00	
6386Haha, the fuck?
6387
6388DodgyLandings
6389##	2018-06-29T15:11:09+00:00	
6390No.
6391
6392DodgyLandings
6393##	2018-06-30T12:24:20+00:00	
6394Is this really TfLs responsibility? May aswell have an ad campaign reminding you to check your winter coats and make sure you spend this gift cards before they expire.
6395
6396If people don't want to be arsed to get their cash, who cares? It's not like it's a secret - I've got an Oyster somewhere in the house with like 4 quid on it. I'll get over it I'm sure.
6397
6398DodgyLandings
6399##	2018-06-30T19:07:01+00:00	
6400Could be just simple number re-use. By Caller ID do you mean a smartphone app that tries to tie numbers in, because they aren't foolproof. There's no central repository of who owns a number and it sounds like you're reading a lot into it.
6401
6402Wonga are sketchy, but then why state who they are in the name.
6403
6404DodgyLandings
6405##	2018-06-30T19:11:53+00:00	
6406Ooookay. Brexit is a disaster, but we've survived far far far worse.
6407
6408DodgyLandings
6409##	2018-06-30T19:13:18+00:00	
6410I'm not sure which bit you find odd. Numbers get dropped and recycled all the time - the only pointer you've got against it simply being Wonga is a caller ID app.
6411
6412Why not post the number?
6413
6414DodgyLandings
6415##	2018-06-30T22:27:38+00:00	
6416Got any kind of source on this?
6417
6418DodgyLandings
6419##	2018-06-30T22:41:43+00:00	
6420No then.
6421
6422DodgyLandings
6423##	2018-06-30T22:48:27+00:00	
6424Any mention, anywhere, of this common torture technique? Who killed your nephew? If his body was so fucked up, how did they determine he had said wire bath or whatever?
6425
6426Anyway, I've just remembered you from the Russian nerve agent discussions so I'll probably just leave this if it's all the same.
6427
6428DodgyLandings
6429##	2018-06-30T23:04:59+00:00	
6430Thought it was MI5 who done it.
6431
6432Anyway, the problem isn't that I don't believe anybody got tortured or murdered but rather very little is new in this world. You're claiming that our Military and MI5 have this classic and horrendous technique, and yet, what, nobody has ever talked about until now?
6433
6434I'm still not really following the story though, TBH.
6435
6436DodgyLandings
6437##	2018-06-30T23:06:06+00:00	
6438UDA or UVF?
6439
6440DodgyLandings
6441##	2018-06-30T23:10:27+00:00	
6442I think that's a big ask. Yes, it's a dangerous act in a sense - but can you convince a jury that anybody knows you stand a very high chance of hurting somebody just by answering your phone?
6443
6444To be clear, I can't stand mobile phone usage - its a pet peeve as a motorcyclist but it's not a dangerous act with a clear risk of injury in the same way, as say, setting a house on fire.
6445
6446I'm not saying you couldn't make the case or prove it, I'm not a lawyer, but do you really want this guy's punishment to hinge on being able to prove that he should have known mobile phone equals injury?
6447
6448DodgyLandings
6449##	2018-07-01T10:13:25+00:00	
6450I think (hope) the phone confirmation is going to make things very difficult for them.
6451
6452DodgyLandings
6453##	2018-07-01T12:45:56+00:00	
6454Okay, bye now.
6455
6456DodgyLandings
6457##	2018-07-01T13:26:04+00:00	
6458I think it's just the throwing your toys out the pram style wah wah wah post that we find rather amusing. Or I do, at least.
6459
6460DodgyLandings
6461##	2018-07-01T13:55:58+00:00	
6462It's niche even in the context of flying! I'm a licensed pilot and I don't know of any clubs or anything - there's one that flies near me. Literally one - that's the only one I've seen in real life. It's not a big sport by any stretch.
6463
6464It does look amazing on a summer evening, though. I think it's too much for my fear of heights though.
6465
6466OP, I'd just find a club that's convenient and check them out.
6467
6468DodgyLandings
6469##	2018-07-01T14:28:56+00:00	
6470Not sure I follow? They're just small 2 or 4 stroke engines - similar to lawnmowers, small bikes etc?
6471
6472DodgyLandings
6473##	2018-07-01T15:03:16+00:00	
6474Haha, that makes sense. You did throw me a bit, and the one that flies like me sounds pretty much how I'd expect.
6475
6476Not a cheap game, though.
6477
6478DodgyLandings
6479##	2018-07-01T15:11:29+00:00	
6480Awful. And only recently after the HSE conviction over the one that blew away.
6481
6482DodgyLandings
6483##	2018-07-01T15:10:21+00:00	
6484Preaching to the converted there, bud!
6485
6486DodgyLandings
6487##	2018-07-01T17:55:08+00:00	
6488Haha. I think it's quite common - I can't offer any explanation but I'm absolutely fine in a plane but fuck ladders.
6489
6490DodgyLandings
6491##	2018-07-01T22:35:45+00:00	
6492I'll get you down one way or another!
6493
6494DodgyLandings
6495##	2018-07-02T10:56:42+00:00	
6496While I'm sure they have a bit of a laugh, you couldn't personally pay me to go on holiday with a group of school kids.
6497
6498DodgyLandings
6499##	2018-07-02T12:22:11+00:00	
6500What was it? Halfords aren't cheap, but their Pro/Advanced range is superb.
6501
6502Everything else tends to just have the 'Its Sunday afternoon, where else are you going to go' markup.
6503
6504DodgyLandings
6505##	2018-07-02T12:25:50+00:00	
6506Nah, I don't buy that. Council's have been playing these games for many many years.
6507
6508DodgyLandings
6509##	2018-07-02T14:30:01+00:00	
6510What? No, I mean forever. In the early 00's my town removed two free car parks and set up new pay and dispaly outside of town. Stuff like that
6511
6512DodgyLandings
6513##	2018-07-02T16:33:31+00:00	
6514Christ, that's a cunts trick.
6515
6516DodgyLandings
6517##	2018-07-02T17:17:25+00:00	
6518I don't agree with an outright ban, but timing wise this is right off the back of the prosecution for the death of another child.
6519
6520DodgyLandings
6521##	2018-07-02T19:10:03+00:00	
6522Uhm, what do you think it may mean?
6523
6524DodgyLandings
6525##	2018-07-02T19:09:22+00:00	
6526The conversation is about the high street. I couldn't care less about the car park - I just go to the local shopping centre instead with massive free parking.
6527
6528If they want people to come back to town they need to make it convenient.
6529
6530DodgyLandings
6531##	2018-07-02T19:22:01+00:00	
6532It's obviously personal, so I do feel for you. But, well, yeah - it's unexplained in that they simply don't know what caused it, and whether that is likely to be accidentally or otherwise.
6533
6534I would say that it's probably less likely to be suspicious in that most murders are relatively obvious but it could also be the circumstances that are unclear. A head injury in the bathroom could be a fall for example.
6535
6536DodgyLandings
6537##	2018-07-02T21:54:40+00:00	
6538Ah yes, only white middle age blokes drive don't they. Good job Asian taxi drivers won't be affected by such a rise.
6539
6540The term is shit and throwing it around makes you sound like a pillock
6541
6542DodgyLandings
6543##	2018-07-02T22:04:33+00:00	
6544Maybe not in the Daily Mail no, but the 'hard pressed motorist' is far from a white middle age man thing. And professional drivers in particular are going to have a chip on their shoulder about it, especially as most of them went out and picked up Diesels a few years back!
6545
6546And it seriously a shit term. It's really starting to trigger some annoyance in me, not least because it's the same dismissive 'your view doesn't count' bullshit that allowed UKIP to thrive and get us Brexit.
6547
6548DodgyLandings
6549##	2018-07-03T09:45:18+00:00	
6550Jesus, that's properly fucked up if the allegations are true.
6551
6552DodgyLandings
6553##	2018-07-03T10:01:57+00:00	
6554The top level comment was about car parking.
6555
6556DodgyLandings
6557##	2018-07-03T10:31:39+00:00	
6558Really? You think a random internet commenter on Reddit can cause a case like that to be thrown out? It's not even at court yet, and she's not even been charged.
6559
6560Get a grip.
6561
6562DodgyLandings
6563##	2018-07-03T10:32:43+00:00	
6564Cunt.
6565
6566DodgyLandings
6567##	2018-07-03T10:42:46+00:00	
6568I thought their SEALS were involved?
6569
6570I think the problem is that it's such a specific kind of mission - incredibly specialist.
6571
6572DodgyLandings
6573##	2018-07-03T10:45:55+00:00	
6574Do you think all discussion and news reporting should be prevented about any crime until a conviction?
6575
6576DodgyLandings
6577##	2018-07-03T10:51:25+00:00	
6578I mean native, Thai SEALS. Sure I read that
6579
6580DodgyLandings
6581##	2018-07-03T10:58:37+00:00	
6582Yeah, I'm with you now. Id presumed they were something more...official.
6583
6584DodgyLandings
6585##	2018-07-03T11:08:42+00:00	
6586Yep, absolutely. Doesn't get much more niche - ridiculous technical.
6587
6588DodgyLandings
6589##	2018-07-03T12:05:33+00:00	
6590I genuinely and sincerely don't think I've ever deliberately littered in my life. No fucking excuse, it's filthy.
6591
6592DodgyLandings
6593##	2018-07-03T12:05:08+00:00	
6594Absolute filth.
6595
6596DodgyLandings
6597##	2018-07-03T12:20:34+00:00	
6598Long term, maybe. Depends what happens in the EU.
6599
6600Realistically, I don't think it'll happy anytime soon because we won't get any concessions. In other words, if we want back in the next 5-10 years that means Euro, Metric, Shengen etc etc.
6601
6602Add a rant here about how fucking good we had it.
6603
6604DodgyLandings
6605##	2018-07-03T12:25:39+00:00	
6606Murder is the key word I think. If we were looking at negligence, manslaughter etc I'd be a bit more inclined to see that side. The fact they're viewing as premediated and deliberate is worrying.
6607
6608DodgyLandings
6609##	2018-07-03T12:29:45+00:00	
6610You don't think refugees are likely to be struggling somewhat too?
6611
6612DodgyLandings
6613##	2018-07-03T12:46:05+00:00	
6614They've been born into one of the richest nation's on the planet and aren't running from war and persecution. If you want to play 'who needs it more' then I'm going to go right ahead and pick the refugee.
6615
6616There are already lots of options for Uni funding.
6617
6618DodgyLandings
6619##	2018-07-03T13:24:10+00:00	
6620I've never done it obviously so I don't want to say easy, but assuming all the paperwork is right I don't think you'll have major hurdles in IT. I've worked with loads of non-natives in high skilled roles.
6621
6622DodgyLandings
6623##	2018-07-03T13:38:43+00:00	
6624Sounds about right. I wonder what political movements he aligns with.
6625
6626DodgyLandings
6627##	2018-07-03T13:46:39+00:00	
6628Heh, hardly. Just a dull term, I rate it with virtue signalling.
6629
6630DodgyLandings
6631##	2018-07-03T15:26:33+00:00	
6632The latter is my concern. Not that it's right to respond in such ways, but you watch videos on YouTube and a lot of them leave you seriously wondering what happened before.
6633
6634DodgyLandings
6635##	2018-07-03T19:26:34+00:00	
6636Literally just tuned in for a laugh - fuck me, whats' their issue!
6637
6638DodgyLandings
6639##	2018-07-03T19:35:18+00:00	
6640Really, you don't think someone who takes the time to make up a race hate inciting rumour doesn't have an agenda?
6641
6642DodgyLandings
6643##	2018-07-03T19:49:41+00:00	
6644I think you're over thinking my comment. I'm not saying he's a fully signed up member of the BNP/Britain First etc etc but you can be damn sure he has some positive opinions about them.
6645
6646DodgyLandings
6647##	2018-07-03T19:55:40+00:00	
6648So undeserved as well, given their absolute cuntish behaviour
6649
6650DodgyLandings
6651##	2018-07-03T20:14:03+00:00	
6652Yeah, I was the first to comment and was thinking more Tommy Robinson
6653
6654DodgyLandings
6655##	2018-07-03T21:26:24+00:00	
6656Avid remainer and utter non football fan here.
6657
6658I watched it, I cheered England and I'm sincerely contemplating finding a decent crowd for the next one.
6659
6660So bore the fuck off somewhere else you utter dullard.
6661
6662Edit: Christ, it's you again. Piss off.
6663
6664DodgyLandings
6665##	2018-07-04T09:27:38+00:00	
6666I think the major thing was the Euros were held here, too.
6667
6668DodgyLandings
6669##	2018-07-04T09:32:27+00:00	
6670Christ, can't we just let people fuck if they want to. Why is it any business of the government's what 'deal is made' - marriage and half your worldly goods is fine, but woe betide you give someone a few hundred quid for a shag.
6671
6672All this does is remove a relatively safe platform for women to use that they can do by themselves, screen people and avoid the streets.
6673
6674DodgyLandings
6675##	2018-07-04T12:50:18+00:00	
6676Can I just counter - the naming is part of the concept of transparent justice. Do we really want people being detained and tried in secret?
6677
6678DodgyLandings
6679##	2018-07-04T13:05:56+00:00	
6680Indeed - especially if they're contracting, or have done in the past.
6681
6682Plus, depends what you're all about. My work colleagues like to pretend I'm rich because I fly - while they're spending 500 quid a month on lease cars and whatever.
6683
6684DodgyLandings
6685##	2018-07-04T13:54:11+00:00	
6686It is, but ultimately he's commander of the boat and knows that she lacks knowledge and experience.
6687
6688People are around cars day to day, but for most people the same can't be said of a boat. The responsibility rested primarily with him to conduct the trip safely and professionally. He deserves his charge and I hope he's found guilty. People need to stop treating such things as toys because they will bite you hard. The fact he'd been formally told twice says it all about his attitude to safety.
6689
6690DodgyLandings
6691##	2018-07-04T13:57:02+00:00	
6692It's definitely a red pill / MRA wet dream, it's just most of them don't leave the house long enough to make some cash.
6693
6694DodgyLandings
6695##	2018-07-04T14:05:21+00:00	
6696What annoys me, and I suppose it rather depends on the crowd you hang around with and align yourself to, is that there's nothing more complementary to me than having someone tell me how safe and comfy they felt while flying. I actually take far more care with others, so I can show off my professional side and include them in the checks.
6697
6698It's not like safe or fun have to be different things - would he really have not seduced her (a middle class professional) if he'd have said 'Better not have another glass if you still fancy a quick ride on the speedboat' and paused for all of 2 mins to pop a lifejacket on etc. Surely by the point theyre coming for a trip out they're pretty into him.
6699
6700I think that's why I'm pretty content to see him get done. I genuinely do think his gross negligence and contempt for safe conduct killed her.
6701
6702DodgyLandings
6703##	2018-07-04T14:07:44+00:00	
6704Depends on the circs. There's a handful of offences around knowingly allowing someone to use a car without the proper license or insurance.
6705
6706Don't think there's a specific drink driving one, but I'd certainly expect the Police to contemplate a charge if you let somebody have the keys to your car when you know they're pissed and they kill someone.
6707
6708DodgyLandings
6709##	2018-07-04T16:07:58+00:00	
6710Because Sweden are likely to win, aren't they.
6711
6712DodgyLandings
6713##	2018-07-04T16:09:33+00:00	
6714To be fair, this was 'proper' after school kids TV aimed directly at them.
6715
6716DodgyLandings
6717##	2018-07-04T16:08:45+00:00	
6718I knew (hoped!) exactly what this was from the thumbnail.
6719
6720Awesome series, if fucking brutal.
6721
6722DodgyLandings
6723##	2018-07-04T21:06:43+00:00	
6724I kind of feel you've replied just to be contrary if I'm honest. I dont disagree with any of your points, but it's absolutely clear that removing these platforms does nothing to help and, if anything, makes the situation worse.
6725
6726I'm not 'missing anything', thanks.
6727
6728DodgyLandings
6729##	2018-07-04T21:29:52+00:00	
6730No?
6731
6732DodgyLandings
6733##	2018-07-04T21:32:07+00:00	
6734To go back in time and go on the pull in 1980's California I presume.
6735
6736I've got to say, I had something a LOT different in my mind. Fun, I'm sure though.
6737
6738DodgyLandings
6739##	2018-07-04T21:35:56+00:00	
6740Why doesn't it make any sense? It's speculation, but it fits Ocaamz Razor perfectly.
6741
6742Wasn't the whole issue with such agents that they don't disperse by themselves? So if something got missed or dumped then game over.
6743
6744DodgyLandings
6745##	2018-07-05T06:54:45+00:00	
6746Fuck me, you're a selfish piece of shit.
6747
6748DodgyLandings
6749##	2018-07-05T09:39:54+00:00	
6750The logic, in fairness, was to give them a competitive edge. Not sure I entirely buy it, but why would you employ an 18 year old with no experience for the same money as a 30 year old with experience?
6751
6752DodgyLandings
6753##	2018-07-05T14:59:48+00:00	
6754Fucks sake, some people are just born cunts.
6755
6756DodgyLandings
6757##	2018-07-05T15:03:51+00:00	
6758Hello, I'm Dunhildas and I'm too stupid to understand why ma Tommy is in jail. He's a good boy and ain't done nuffin wrong.
6759
6760DodgyLandings
6761##	2018-07-05T21:55:26+00:00	
6762still, im not sure how i feel about the university getting involved..
6763
6764Why? If it was a workplace matter then HR and such would get involved, as well. You don't have some divine right to complete and utter separation of your personal and private lives in such matters.
6765
6766Unfortunately it's hard to gain any real context without seeing the messages, but if (for example - I'm in no way suggesting they were) fairly brutal/racist/rapey or whatever then we'd be rightly calling for the Uni to step in.
6767
6768DodgyLandings
6769##	2018-07-05T22:38:59+00:00	
6770Not to mention he's dead. Even if you really thought he was a prick it's probably best to just leave it at that point.
6771
6772DodgyLandings
6773##	2018-07-05T22:54:24+00:00	
6774Because they have a duty of care. Let's say the message was 'Im going to fuck that bitch....whether she wants it or not'
6775
6776You think it's okay for the Uni to totally ignore that? Now there's a whole world of grey that needs investigating first, but I don't think a Uni can just wave their hands of these things.
6777
6778Every student signs up to codes of conduct.
6779
6780Employers are also worried about sexual harrasment, bullying etc and Unis should be too.
6781
6782DodgyLandings
6783##	2018-07-06T05:51:56+00:00	
6784It's defamation. It was a deliberately extreme example and you can't libel the dead anyway.
6785
6786DodgyLandings
6787##	2018-07-06T06:04:28+00:00	
6788We already have Code of Conducts and universities already make such decisions.
6789
6790The world isn't that black and white. There's a big area between unacceptable behaviour and a criminal conviction.
6791
6792DodgyLandings
6793##	2018-07-06T06:09:05+00:00	
6794Sainsburys can kick you out for swearing or something, too.
6795
6796And the fact the messages were intended for a specific audience may be mitigation, it doesn't somehow make them inadmissible and I'm not sure why it should.
6797
6798DodgyLandings
6799##	2018-07-06T06:10:23+00:00	
6800No it's not. The argument is whether the University should intervene in such matters - some people think not, but I disagree and used an extreme example. He was under investigation, which is the right thing to do - they could (and probably would) do little to him for an off the cuff ill judged remark. In the meantime it's right to suspend and investigate.
6801
6802We don't know the content so most of this thread is speculation.
6803
6804You then, for some utterly bizarre reason, tried to scare me into deleting it.
6805
6806DodgyLandings
6807##	2018-07-06T06:15:02+00:00	
6808Good job I didn't imply anything, but you feel free duck.
6809
6810DodgyLandings
6811##	2018-07-06T06:16:57+00:00	
6812It was an extreme example to make people consider whether Universities should ignore such messages/accusations/conflicts whatever.
6813
6814DodgyLandings
6815##	2018-07-06T06:22:51+00:00	
6816And even more so when you're writing it down.
6817
6818Same goes for e-mail.
6819
6820DodgyLandings
6821##	2018-07-06T06:24:11+00:00	
6822You think you WOULD get away with calling your average boss a cunt over text or whatever?
6823
6824DodgyLandings
6825##	2018-07-06T06:59:21+00:00	
6826Not for anyone who can actually read, no. The thread was whether Universities should get involved in private matters like this. I made absolutely clear I was using an example to make my point.
6827
6828DodgyLandings
6829##	2018-07-06T07:21:50+00:00	
6830I think for me it's the context of private. Is a WhatsApp group really private in any sense of the word? I certainly don't operate with the expectation of privacy on my work groups etc.
6831
6832A text between a mate, then yeah, I'm a lot more on your side there.
6833
6834DodgyLandings
6835##	2018-07-06T08:42:21+00:00	
6836But it doesn't have to be illegal. Why is that the only test?
6837
6838DodgyLandings
6839##	2018-07-06T09:52:28+00:00	
6840Then there is no such thing as privacy or free speech, which is wrong and a clear violation of our human rights that are enshrined in law.
6841
6842Sorry, but now you're just talking shite. There are a LOT of restrictions on privacy and free speech - but, more to the point, you're conflating different things. The text was made public - there's no magic rewind and ignore it button.
6843
6844Let's turn it around - let's imagine the text was from an employer saying "Yeah, that guy was okay in the interview - but he's a fucking Muslim, so balls if I'm employing that brown cunt". Do you honestly, sincerely, expect that go nowhere? Why?
6845
6846Just because the University can't outright go and intercept your texts and private communications doesn't mean that they can't, or indeed are not duty bound to, act when those texts do find themselves in the public domain.
6847
6848If you made derogatory comments about a fellow student behind their back, in private to a friend, should you expect the university to punish you?
6849
6850Honestly, yes. Depending on what the comment was. Just as I would be at work if I turned to a colleague and got caught saying "Christ, that Jenny is hot as in that short skirt". Now, I'm not saying I've never made any similar comments over my lifetime, but that doesn't mean it's alright to do so.
6851
6852What's the difference here? As far as I can tell, the only difference is that the recipient was able to make it public due to being able to screenshot the message and share it.
6853
6854Well, that's a pretty key difference because it takes away any ambiguity or hearsay from the situation. Why do you think people are so careful what they write vs a private chat? Because "I didn't say that" is actually a really really good defence when there's absolutely no evidence to back something up.
6855
6856Universities are there to educate, and they charge a hefty fee for doing so. They are not there to police private conversation or punish you for it, unless you are maliciously bullying a fellow student. That was not the case here at all.
6857
6858How does the Uni determine that without an investigation? They long codes of conduct that people are expected to follow.
6859
6860DodgyLandings
6861##	2018-07-06T10:33:07+00:00	
6862Sending a text to your mate saying you got some easy pussy at the weekend is not illegal
6863
6864You don't think this could potentially qualify as sexual harassment? As in, you think saying "Jenny is hot" is worse?
6865
6866Besides which, you don't know WHAT the content of those messages were. I'm not commenting on that specifically, or whether he should be in trouble. It was an investigation.
6867
6868Whatever happened was clearly enough to upset the girl.
6869
6870DodgyLandings
6871##	2018-07-06T11:10:17+00:00	
6872BUT ITS NO LONGER PRIVATE
6873
6874Which bit of this are you having a problem with? Besides which, that was just to point out something doesn't need to be illegal to get you in to trouble, which is what you previously implied.
6875
6876DodgyLandings
6877##	2018-07-06T16:29:45+00:00	
6878Honestly, I can't see how society can possibly require him again. That takes a level of deliberate depravity and cruelty that's hard to comprehend.
6879
6880Fuck him, and fuck his life. I'd rather never see him free. Ever.
6881
6882DodgyLandings
6883##	2018-07-07T16:00:55+00:00	
6884Have you just compared a city to a republic?
6885
6886DodgyLandings
6887##	2018-07-07T16:07:15+00:00	
6888Probably because we aren't all fat bastards
6889
6890DodgyLandings
6891##	2018-07-07T16:11:11+00:00	
6892Do MI5/MI6 have a track record of conducting false flag murders on British soil?
6893
6894Do Russia have a track record for assassinations of political enemies and murders on British soil?
6895
6896DodgyLandings
6897##	2018-07-07T16:12:11+00:00	
6898Oh look at you, with your century old outdated stereotypes.
6899
6900DodgyLandings
6901##	2018-07-07T16:19:48+00:00	
6902It's current...
6903
6904DodgyLandings
6905##	2018-07-07T16:37:34+00:00	
6906Depends how much you rate your time. Do you think you're going to average 6-7quids worth of rare coins each hour?
6907
6908DodgyLandings
6909##	2018-07-07T17:03:59+00:00	
6910Evidence.
6911
6912DodgyLandings
6913##	2018-07-07T22:46:02+00:00	
6914I think it's pretty obvious that those two are known drug users. If a heroin addict turns up with some bad symptoms the first guess is going to be that kind if route.
6915
6916DodgyLandings
6917##	2018-07-08T10:13:02+00:00	
6918Probably never worked.
6919
6920DodgyLandings
6921##	2018-07-08T13:54:57+00:00	
6922I also love the idea that all these first responders and ED staff are in on the conspiracy.
6923
6924DodgyLandings
6925##	2018-07-08T20:14:27+00:00	
6926I went into my local town for a pre-planned Birthday. We did move out to nicer pastures, but....yeah, it was grim.
6927
6928DodgyLandings
6929##	2018-07-08T20:52:10+00:00	
6930Well that fucks up the Novichok hasn't killed anyone copy and paste doing the rounds.
6931
6932Shame, though - absolute shit show.
6933
6934DodgyLandings
6935##	2018-07-09T14:45:41+00:00	
6936It's funny - another referendum could never be a bad thing from a purely democratic point of view.
6937
6938If the last one represents the people then the next would go Brexit too.
6939
6940DodgyLandings
6941##	2018-07-09T15:09:03+00:00	
6942I'm agreeing with you - that's my point.
6943
6944It's only leaves who don't want a second - the ones who claim it's democratic and for the people etc. Which, if true, would mean they have nothing to worry about with a second.
6945
6946Of course, the logistics would be another matter.
6947
6948DodgyLandings
6949##	2018-07-09T15:18:12+00:00	
6950You think 4 percent is a clear win and display of the people's will? You think it meant 'the country' wanted some kind of hard Brexit and nothing else will you do? You think everyone who voted Brexit fully understood the ramifications?
6951
6952Are you scared of losing a second vote?
6953
6954You realise that the vote is non-binding and it's entirely Democratic for our elected MP's to opt to stay?
6955
6956DodgyLandings
6957##	2018-07-09T15:27:06+00:00	
6958Who doesn't :(
6959
6960DodgyLandings
6961##	2018-07-09T15:45:44+00:00	
6962Oh, that'll be nice.
6963
6964DodgyLandings
6965##	2018-07-09T16:27:20+00:00	
6966No offence, but this naivety is absolutely staggering. This should be of no surprise to anyone - the fact you presumed there would be some 'good deal' makes me physically fucking hurt.
6967
6968Actually, I take it back, take some offence because your silliness has ruined the fucking country.
6969
6970DodgyLandings
6971##	2018-07-09T16:39:58+00:00	
6972I took We to mean yourself included, so sorry for that.
6973
6974In that case, I just disagree with your assessment of what Leave did vote for. They can't have voted for a deal because they're never was a deal to vote for.
6975
6976DodgyLandings
6977##	2018-07-09T16:58:21+00:00	
6978It's more that I can't fathom how else they thought it would go or why there would be some magic amazing deal.
6979
6980I've always said that it people genuinely think it's the right way forward at a moral level then I can respect that. The 'Its the EU/Mays fault' brigade are deluded
6981
6982DodgyLandings
6983##	2018-07-09T20:53:27+00:00	
6984You're trying too hard. It makes the Troll too obvious, you need to be a little more subtle.
6985
6986DodgyLandings
6987##	2018-07-09T20:56:20+00:00	
6988Went to my tip to get a boot of stuff. Like a dick, I asked where to put a bag of plaster.
6989
6990They don't take it. The one that does is another 30-40 mins away - great.
6991
6992DodgyLandings
6993##	2018-07-10T06:40:17+00:00	
6994Well, hospitals already have huge backup generators to be fair. Normally backed by battery based UPSs for critical kit, such as ICU equipment etc. And then a lot of that kit will have it's own internal batteries too.
6995
6996Not that I want Google in there too.
6997
6998DodgyLandings
6999##	2018-07-10T07:08:06+00:00	
7000Hahahahahaha, fuck me you're a moron.
7001
7002DodgyLandings
7003##	2018-07-10T07:40:26+00:00	
7004I do alright ta. It's probably having an IQ over 50 that helps.
7005
7006DodgyLandings
7007##	2018-07-10T08:39:11+00:00	
7008No denying the cost, but there is considerable capacity there. I know for a fact the hospital I use a lot has ditched their critical/non-critical distinction and their generators will power all sockets.
7009
7010FWIW, I suspect we broadly agree.
7011
7012DodgyLandings
7013##	2018-07-10T08:57:00+00:00	
7014It's just Google all over. Personally, I can't stand this current trend of seeing how cheap commodity hardware/software is and then slagging off enterprise critical equivalents.
7015
7016DodgyLandings
7017##	2018-07-10T12:32:19+00:00	
7018Haha, nice.
7019
7020DodgyLandings
7021##	2018-07-10T12:46:15+00:00	
7022I go there for amusement occasionally. It's basically a whole sub of 'that happened'.
7023
7024I couldn't give a fuck if people have kids or not, but contrary to what they say that sub is essentially anti child in almost any context.
7025
7026Very strange bunch.
7027
7028DodgyLandings
7029##	2018-07-10T13:47:39+00:00	
7030Off you fuck. Absolute filth.
7031
7032DodgyLandings
7033##	2018-07-10T21:03:59+00:00	
7034What's this preparation for a real job thing all about? Literally nobody who went to school in the last 30 years walked out 'prepared' for a 9-5. The fuck, does he think other Unis are doing 360 Reviews and giving you a boss?
7035
7036DodgyLandings
7037##	2018-07-11T09:08:08+00:00	
7038Yep, positively third world, right.
7039
7040Just make sure you don't accidentally end up in the projects where you're likely to get shot if wearing the wrong colours....oh, no, wait...that's somewhere else.
7041
7042Edit: Oh, it's you again. Then why not fuck off home if you don't like anything here.
7043
7044DodgyLandings
7045##	2018-07-11T09:10:29+00:00	
7046Filter FTW
7047
7048DodgyLandings
7049##	2018-07-11T09:26:12+00:00	
7050Uh, mayo isn't a particularly big thing here.
7051
7052DodgyLandings
7053##	2018-07-11T11:26:37+00:00	
7054I always wonder about people who spend so much time worrying about what other people like?
7055
7056Is it a self confidence thing? Do you worry that you don't have 'a life' and so focus on proving that others don't? Do you lack fulfillment?
7057
7058DodgyLandings
7059##	2018-07-11T11:28:23+00:00	
7060Which is fine. It's far from my thing, but why do you care about it? Why do you care that people talk about it?
7061
7062DodgyLandings
7063##	2018-07-11T14:26:57+00:00	
7064azure Virtual machine if you can RDP out ;)
7065
7066DodgyLandings
7067##	2018-07-13T19:52:49+00:00	
7068Lovely! Plenty of time for him to consider his actions
7069
7070DodgyLandings
7071##	2018-07-13T21:12:56+00:00	
7072https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36115697
7073
7074DodgyLandings
7075##	2018-07-14T06:57:14+00:00	
7076It's because you didn't pay in pounds, you paid in Euros.
7077
7078I have a few EUR and USD payments come out of my account each month and they all have the same thing. It's basically an exchange fee, similar to drawing EUR out of a foreign cash point
7079
7080Percentage wise it's less than 3pc which isn't outrageous, really.
7081
7082DodgyLandings
7083##	2018-07-14T07:12:17+00:00	
7084Whoa.
7085
7086DodgyLandings
7087##	2018-07-14T12:21:01+00:00	
7088In exactly the same way that driving home successfully piss drunk 'Didnt hurt anyone'.
7089
7090Airspace restrictions exist for a reason, and are rightly enforced.
7091
7092DodgyLandings
7093##	2018-07-14T12:54:18+00:00	
7094Absolute fucking bellends.
7095
7096As a biker, I'd fully support the Police being authorised to use contact to take out bikes during a pursuit. Fuck em.
7097
7098DodgyLandings
7099##	2018-07-14T18:17:16+00:00	
7100To be fair, those are mole grips - looks fine to me!
7101
7102DodgyLandings
7103##	2018-07-14T19:23:31+00:00	
7104Literally all the drawbacks of a car and a bike rolled into one.
7105
7106I've raced them and they are fun, but for the road it's a bike any day for me.
7107
7108DodgyLandings
7109##	2018-07-14T21:37:18+00:00	
7110I think the honest truth is a lot of people aligning themselves with this are somewhat misguided. Fortunately, most will start to realise.
7111
7112I actually went to an early EDL March (Not as a supporter, long story, I knew some people and was able to move freely between both sides - just wanted to see what the crack was) and was taken aback at the outright Nazi supporters turning up. I'm talking literal Swastika tattoos.
7113
7114I imagine there were a few people on the EDL Side that suddenly found themselves occupying a platform with people they did not wish to be associated with.
7115
7116Of course, there's also a whole argument at how scarily acceptable these views are becoming.
7117
7118DodgyLandings
7119##	2018-07-14T21:45:43+00:00	
7120Haha, you know you're desperate when you're under a car and reach for the mole grips.
7121
7122DodgyLandings
7123##	2018-07-14T21:48:09+00:00	
7124It's fucking unprofessional. I'd be sacked for it, he should be too.
7125
7126Being unprofessional and untrustworthy makes you bad at your job. Simple.
7127
7128DodgyLandings
7129##	2018-07-15T07:02:17+00:00	
7130God I'm so fucking bored of hearing about people who don't have jobs.
7131
7132Do you not have holiday or days off with yours? You really think this protest is made up of unemployed people?
7133
7134Bore off.
7135
7136DodgyLandings
7137##	2018-07-15T07:33:51+00:00	
7138Does it matter, particularly?
7139
7140DodgyLandings
7141##	2018-07-15T07:55:32+00:00	
7142I don't think there's an accusation of sexual harrasment necessarily is there?
7143
7144But he's in a party that preaches a whole bunch about family values and such, has a very murky record when it comes to human rights voting points and has been caught out good and proper.
7145
7146It's just a good old fashioned Tory being a hypocrite scandal.
7147
7148DodgyLandings
7149##	2018-07-15T07:56:02+00:00	
7150Married men aren't really considered 'entitled' to sexual proposition people.
7151
7152DodgyLandings
7153##	2018-07-15T08:25:56+00:00	
7154You're right - you're entirely free to be utterly wrong.
7155
7156DodgyLandings
7157##	2018-07-15T08:47:10+00:00	
7158I think it's rather clear that his wife was not part of this consent.
7159
7160Is this really that difficult for you to grasp? I'm no prude, there ain't much I haven't done, but adultery is a cunts game.
7161
7162DodgyLandings
7163##	2018-07-15T08:50:45+00:00	
7164False equivalence. Yes, politicians who have power should be held to held to high standards of honesty and trust. Their personal lives and professional lives are always going to be intertwined to some degree and I absolutely think this sort of scandal is in the public interest.
7165
7166There is no expectation of privacy between two people - if you PM me, I'm free to post those messages. They aren't protected legally.
7167
7168DodgyLandings
7169##	2018-07-15T09:19:34+00:00	
7170Who says they're victims of harrasment?
7171
7172DodgyLandings
7173##	2018-07-15T09:23:28+00:00	
7174I suspect he just thinks that on the grand scheme of morality, fooling a married guy into admitting his willingness to have an affair (in writing!!) isn't particularly wrong.
7175
7176You seem desperate to paint him as a victim and them as somehow in the wrong, which makes me query what your angle is here.
7177
7178DodgyLandings
7179##	2018-07-15T09:30:41+00:00	
7180But nobody is saying the barmaid is a victim? It's clear there was a bit of 2-way comms going.
7181
7182The whole point is nobody really cares about the barmaid and what she did or didn't say - the entire point is him, and his family and what he did accross them while sitting in a position of power for the Tory party.
7183
7184And you still don't think he should resign?
7185
7186DodgyLandings
7187##	2018-07-15T09:46:16+00:00	
7188Of course he's in the shit. Christ, I've been with some relaxed women but I don't think the post natal period is the time most wives are up for their bloke spending money on two randoms. Maybe she was but let's be realistic here for a moment - she wasn't.
7189
7190Those other things are a lot harder to prove, have much bigger grey areas, tend to have fewer people willing to rat each other out (because they'll all be up for it) and aren't particularly well understood. But they do get pulled up from time to time which is great.
7191
7192I'm not defending the tabloid side of all this - it's an old school sex scandal and is being treated as such (half tongue in cheek). Salatious, absolutely.
7193
7194But all these things aren't mutually exclusive. I can still think he's a nasty rat while also disliking the tabloid narrative and while people are sacked for other things too.
7195
7196DodgyLandings
7197##	2018-07-15T09:48:31+00:00	
7198Well, that's not how I took it, but do you still think he shouldn't resign?
7199
7200DodgyLandings
7201##	2018-07-15T09:59:36+00:00	
7202Firstly, I'm not getting the gender switch at all - yes, I'd feel the same about it the other way round.
7203
7204Secondly, why do people keep talking about consent and partners. Look at it this way - given his wife and kid at home, what do you think this says about his morality and integrity?
7205
7206Next, consider his position in a party that boasts about their family values, is currently on a morality campaign around porn and has held some very questionable beliefs in the recent past around what people should and shouldn't do.
7207
7208The main difference, is of course, he got caught. But even that says a lot about his personality and attitude that he was so willing to put all this down in writing.
7209
7210DodgyLandings
7211##	2018-07-15T10:15:54+00:00	
7212Hahahaha, superb. Honestly, at this point I'm out.
7213
7214I'm married, I've had rough spots, we've had those nasty arguments that end with the D word.
7215
7216Wanna guess what I've never and would never do? You wanna shag other people, leave your wife first.
7217
7218DodgyLandings
7219##	2018-07-15T10:21:45+00:00	
7220Genuine true story. I have some specific indemnity insurance - it covers pretty much every fucking country in the world (First world anyway, but most of the rest too). Guess what's on the small list of exceptions.
7221
7222DodgyLandings
7223##	2018-07-15T11:53:15+00:00	
7224'We know it's a shit show and will likely lose. We can't have that, and so we will misdirect by talking about the other vote being democratically binding'.
7225
7226With that said, I'm not sure I can face the propaganda campaign again.
7227
7228DodgyLandings
7229##	2018-07-15T12:04:25+00:00	
7230Makes you wonder who's enforcing it. RSPCA don't have to, and the Police generally wont
7231
7232DodgyLandings
7233##	2018-07-15T12:42:21+00:00	
7234Ah, true democracy?
7235
7236DodgyLandings
7237##	2018-07-15T18:36:06+00:00	
7238I'm pretty happy - I've never taken to the bloke and always felt that was a considerable amount of cunt underneath. Brilliance, too, absolutely - but not somebody I could ever work with.
7239
7240So now I get to say "I fucking knew it"
7241
7242DodgyLandings
7243##	2018-07-15T18:44:11+00:00	
7244They're toys - and not built particularly well. Not knocking anyone who buys them, anymore than buying anything else, but the only reason to buy a Tesla is because you want to say you have a Tesla.
7245
7246DodgyLandings
7247##	2018-07-15T18:47:29+00:00	
7248To be fair, that alone implies some brilliance - he's definitely made his mark on the world. And PayPal went pretty well for him.
7249
7250But I do broadly agree - when you really dig down, he doesn't do half as much as he says/thinks he does. He basically has a lot of cash and some vague ideas - most of which simply don't work. Even Tesla is on a knife edge - he's one of these people that is so self assured that he's convinced he can do it better than anyone else ever.
7251
7252Someone recently was speaking about his Boring company and how amazing it's going to be, with world class engineers working on tunneling machines.....like, as opposed to the second rate engineers who actually get paid an insane amount by actual tunnel boring companies.
7253
7254DodgyLandings
7255##	2018-07-15T19:19:02+00:00	
7256They like to link to us, and I couldn't resist this moron in the wild
7257
7258DodgyLandings
7259##	2018-07-15T19:35:37+00:00	
7260I wonder what your average Native American thinks of all this...
7261
7262DodgyLandings
7263##	2018-07-15T19:45:41+00:00	
7264It's a well known term, from the bad old days of serious and organised football violence.
7265
7266DodgyLandings
7267##	2018-07-15T19:55:58+00:00	
7268Because, fortunately, we aren't so deep that a drive-by shooting goes by unnoticed.
7269
7270DodgyLandings
7271##	2018-07-15T20:51:06+00:00	
7272Wouldn't read too much into a review like that , they're not exactly impartial.
7273
7274The P100D is a 130k car - not really the one most people think of when they think of a Tesla on the road. Impressive, though, certainly but I don't think there are many knocking about.
7275
7276DodgyLandings
7277##	2018-07-16T12:32:51+00:00	
7278Not sure I'm with you
7279
7280DodgyLandings
7281##	2018-07-16T12:37:46+00:00	
7282Honestly, I can't imagine a worse reaponse. I genuinely think Musk could have called him an ungrateful cunt and got away with it being a little spat. Publicly accusing someone of being a pedo like that is just something else - sounds more like a fight at a fucking flat roof pub than it does a Twitter message from someone like Elon.
7283
7284DodgyLandings
7285##	2018-07-16T12:36:16+00:00	
7286It's part of most first responder courses. Give the idiots something to do, else they get in the way.
7287
7288DodgyLandings
7289##	2018-07-16T12:40:01+00:00	
7290Uh most chargers I saw for a long time where for Nissan's.
7291
7292His market share is tiny over here.
7293
7294DodgyLandings
7295##	2018-07-16T12:45:10+00:00	
7296Even the BAE chap what was quite open that this is a long term, decades away plan.
7297
7298Which is good. The EF will last and will go through numerous upgrades but eventually it's going to be end of life. And, given how long these things take nowadays we should absolutely be starting.
7299
7300DodgyLandings
7301##	2018-07-17T06:36:59+00:00	
7302Nah mate. The people have spoken, that's democracy. It doesn't matter that they spoke based on lies, bullshit and through the breaking of rules.
7303
7304Look out for a day of 'The remain campaign did x' and ' Project FEAR'
7305
7306DodgyLandings
7307##	2018-07-17T07:16:36+00:00	
7308This analogy couldn't make any less sense if you tried.
7309
7310DodgyLandings
7311##	2018-07-17T08:42:34+00:00	
7312It made a lot more sense, even if I don't agree entirely.
7313
7314Not that it matters - me not responding to every post on Reddit doesn't invalidate my opinion on this one.
7315
7316DodgyLandings
7317##	2018-07-17T11:27:04+00:00	
7318Certainly wish I'd read down before I bothered to reply.
7319
7320DodgyLandings
7321##	2018-07-17T11:26:03+00:00	
7322Just because somebody is trading there doesn't make it magically profitable for everyone, and nor is it an easy to task to steer your business in that direction.
7323
7324You don't just wake up one morning and suddenly decide you're getting orders from Japan. There are also issues from the customer side, such as VAT.
7325
7326DodgyLandings
7327##	2018-07-17T11:55:35+00:00	
7328It was Gov.uk not HMRC, sorry.
7329
7330https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exporting-to-the-usa
7331
7332In particularly like the Taxation section which starts:
7333
7334The US tax system is complex
7335
7336DodgyLandings
7337##	2018-07-19T06:42:59+00:00	
7338It's pretty pathetic what we allow people to get away with, all because the prisons are underfunded and over full.
7339
7340DodgyLandings
7341##	2018-07-19T09:09:16+00:00	
7342Basically, I wanted to bring up this open and outright racism:
7343
7344https://www.reddit.com/r/badunitedkingdom/comments/8zvkur/some_lady_ripping_down_the_gareth_southgate_sign/e2miny0
7345
7346DodgyLandings
7347##	2018-07-19T09:21:02+00:00	
7348/u/tmstms /u/itmidget What say you?
7349
7350DodgyLandings
7351##	2018-07-19T09:24:30+00:00	
7352I'd be happy if we're allowed to just give some back from here.
7353
7354DodgyLandings
7355##	2018-07-19T09:24:05+00:00	
7356See above.
7357
7358DodgyLandings
7359##	2018-07-19T10:28:04+00:00	
7360Ooooh, look at me all scared.
7361
7362DodgyLandings
7363##	2018-07-19T11:13:53+00:00	
7364Because we're allies?
7365
7366DodgyLandings
7367##	2018-07-19T11:19:42+00:00	
7368I think you're over thinking it - even Switzerland has a military and good air defence.
7369
7370DodgyLandings
7371##	2018-07-20T06:46:06+00:00	
7372Really? Why do people do this? You realise they're a huge company with international appeal don't you? It's not for me (fashion rarely is) but why pretend that they're some tiny outfit - what's the point?
7373
7374DodgyLandings
7375##	2018-07-20T09:59:45+00:00	
7376Surely deforestation is fueling the BBQ?
7377
7378DodgyLandings
7379##	2018-07-20T09:58:05+00:00	
7380Why would they wait until 5?
7381
7382DodgyLandings
7383##	2018-07-20T10:01:04+00:00	
7384Doesn't mean it's legally correct. I reckon you could make a good case that it's a substantial change in the service offered and they're quick enough to plaster the channels over the sign up page.
7385
7386Kick off enough and I'll bet they'll let you go.
7387
7388DodgyLandings
7389##	2018-07-20T10:02:19+00:00	
7390Do you have a decent garden? May be able to pole mount it or something.
7391
7392DodgyLandings
7393##	2018-07-20T10:06:19+00:00	
7394Eh, companies put unenforceable clauses into contracts all the time. The companies lawyers arent there to make sure it's all 100 percent watertight because things rarely are - they'll do the best they can and hope nobody challenges it.
7395
7396And you wouldn't be suing, you'd be taking them to small claims for breach of contract on the basis that they've made a material change in service and are no longer able to provide what they sold you. Virgin will argue otherwise, but they'll also know full well that consumer rights are strong.
7397
7398More to the point, I'm suggesting the sincere threat of such action will probably be enough for the to bow down. You may not win, they know you may not win - but they also know you might so it's best to let you go rather than risk losing a case over it.
7399
7400DodgyLandings
7401##	2018-07-20T10:19:51+00:00	
7402I still reckon you'd have a good solid legal argument, with the Consumer Rights Act. They advertise and sell the package based on those channels, on that basis it would (should) be considered part of the contract you entered into.
7403
7404I also reckon you'll be covered under the same Ts and C's they use to change the price where you have x days to quit or accept.
7405
7406The out of hundreds argument is disingenuous because you won't watch all those channels and a court will know that. There aren't that many mainstream entertainment channels.
7407
7408DodgyLandings
7409##	2018-07-20T17:12:21+00:00	
7410Wait I've only scan read this, but you don't think we are predators?
7411
7412DodgyLandings
7413##	2018-07-20T17:21:42+00:00	
7414It feels it, though! I think most bikers have had a crack at some high speeds, but honestly things start to happen so so quickly. You're basically in everyone else's hands at that point because you aren't reacting and stopping in time for anything and nobody is expecting you at that speed either.
7415
7416That said, this bloke is clearly an utter cunt and it looks like the speeding was the least of his cuntishness.
7417
7418DodgyLandings
7419##	2018-07-20T19:50:36+00:00	
7420Truth - I used to have a naked and anything past 80 felt sketchy. I topped her out at 130 and it was the scariest thing I've ever done.
7421
7422Got a much more modern, faired bike now and it's an absolute pleasure even at high speed.
7423
7424All on closed circuits, of course.
7425
7426DodgyLandings
7427##	2018-07-20T19:55:14+00:00	
7428I love how you got downvoted - this is the part of Reddit where most people apparently sit in the left hand lane at 55 (So they say).
7429
7430I try not to venture over about 95 as that's court territory, but a modern car really doesn't feel quick at those speeds. On the right roads in the right conditions the only really unsafe bit is people not expecting you. On a quiet motorway that really shouldn't be a problem.
7431
7432I can never tell if people here are sheltered, inexperienced or just lying. I've done the M6 Toll at 5am in the morning - is it really dangerous to do 80 - 90 there?
7433
7434DodgyLandings
7435##	2018-07-20T19:56:26+00:00	
7436More likely he just forgot/couldn't be arsed/lost the paperwork or was simply trying to scare him.
7437
7438There's a horrid (from a bikers POV) video of 2 bikes playing down some country lanes....until the one with the cam turns on his lights..
7439
7440DodgyLandings
7441##	2018-07-20T21:03:15+00:00	
7442Indeed. Kids from troubled homes and children's homes etc go missing all the time, and normally get picked up fairly quickly. I'd expect them to be very over represented in those stats.
7443
7444Kids being kidnapped and going permanently missing are very very rare and will often make the news.
7445
7446DodgyLandings
7447##	2018-07-20T21:24:41+00:00	
7448Absolutely - speed differential is critical.
7449
7450I got a very bad reception when I moaned here about people doing 40 on fast National Speed Limit roads.
7451
7452DodgyLandings
7453##	2018-07-20T21:26:23+00:00	
7454I really don't understand how this is a legit threat over ICAO. Thats just not how international air travel works.
7455
7456Bluff and bluster and a tit for tat war Ireland won't win, to be frank.
7457
7458DodgyLandings
7459##	2018-07-21T05:57:27+00:00	
7460Flying into, flying over or flying EASA registered aircraft. Those things are not the same. Signatories to the Chicago Convention are bound to allow overflight.
7461
7462We are fucked if it goes no deal and we don't sort something out with EASA.
7463
7464DodgyLandings
7465##	2018-07-21T05:58:54+00:00	
7466That's not how IACO / IASTA works.
7467
7468DodgyLandings
7469##	2018-07-21T10:20:10+00:00	
7470I wouldn't class myself as an expert either, but this is what I'm referencing:
7471
7472https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedoms_of_the_air#First_freedom
7473
7474It's certainly the impression I was given when taught it, but I don't hold that as an authority. While states are soverign and have the right to stop someone flying over, without a good reason it would seem to me that it would breach the convention.
7475
7476DodgyLandings
7477##	2018-07-21T11:52:15+00:00	
7478But this is about overflight primarily - that's my point and we are already signatories. Are Ireland really going to suddenly decide that our CAA is unable to provide safe regulations and safe aircraft? They could, but it seems very unlikely and us preventing their services would also harm them.
7479
7480I'm worried about a lot of things - I'm worried about my nice EASA Pilots License, I'm worried about flights to and from the EU but I don't think overflight is a concern worth worrying about. Especially from Ireland who need us to watch their airspace...
7481
7482DodgyLandings
7483##	2018-07-21T12:26:33+00:00	
7484On March 30, what will tell the world that a UK airplane is still following all required checks and procedures? How can they be followed, if the relevant oversight institutions do not exist?
7485
7486The same as it does today. We will copy and paste the regs and our aviation maintenance facilities will follow the same rules they always have - we don't get the EU to come in and sign off our work now. I'm not saying conversations don't need to be had and that it's going to take a long time for us to sort everything out but I honestly don't believe this bit is a major hurdle. We may not have the regulatory framework in place to properly develop our own rules, but we certainly have the facility to continue as-is.
7487
7488Obviously the EU can choose to be difficult and not recognise our facilities but, again, I don't think that's a likely outcome. Their short haul carriers aren't going to be happy to lose their UK and Ireland destinations.
7489
7490I guess the test will be next year but realistically I expect a lot of last minute backing down (from all sides) and short term deals to allow much of aviation to continue as normal. If that doesn't happen then I think the problems will be flights to and from Europe rather than issues with overflight.
7491
7492Maintenance of other EASA aircraft, license transfer, flying EASA aircraft etc - yes, that'll need some serious discussion.
7493
7494I guess we won't know until then, but I'm not losing any sleep over this. I do like my EASA priveledges though and still think we are doing a stupid thing.
7495
7496Really, the best outcome for Aviation is for us to remain completely within EASA and I don't think you'll find many in the industry who disagree. It's only idiot hardliners who want us out.
7497
7498DodgyLandings
7499##	2018-07-21T12:45:50+00:00	
7500To be fair, having read the interview it reads more like a half throwaway comment than a particular threat. I doubt he was briefed on it or anything - it's just an easy thing for the the tabloids to latch on to. But IMHO, that's us then making the same mistake, albeit with a different opinion. I doubt they have any sincere plans to try and prevent overflight
7501
7502DodgyLandings
7503##	2018-07-21T13:16:06+00:00	
7504See my downvotes for daring to suggest Ireland won't ban overflight!
7505
7506DodgyLandings
7507##	2018-07-21T19:01:57+00:00	
7508Probably the most annoying phrase to come out of Brexit.
7509
7510(I look forward to being called a Gammon now)
7511
7512DodgyLandings
7513##	2018-07-21T19:45:33+00:00	
7514It's an absolutely shite phrase in every single way. Literally nullifying someone's opinion because of how they're (perceived) to look. Imagine if the phrase referenced a disability or a non-white person.
7515
7516It doesn't counter an argument, it doesn't 'prove' somebody is wrong. It's literally saying 'Youre middle aged and white - therefore wrong'.
7517
7518The irony is that given how the scope of gammon has widened most people here will be gammons in 20 years or so.
7519
7520DodgyLandings
7521##	2018-07-22T07:37:01+00:00	
7522I think he means a source for your second round of comments.
7523
7524DodgyLandings
7525##	2018-07-22T07:54:48+00:00	
7526Hang on, the blokes a cunt but firstly it's not clear if he's actually been formally asked to leave yet.
7527
7528Secondly:
7529
7530Number 1 Carlton Gardens from the Crown Estate for a rent said to be 482,341 pounds a year in 2015. That means that Johnson has wasted around 13,000 pounds of the taxpayer money by staying in the property since he quit as foreign minister earlier this month.
7531
7532That's......that's not how rent works. Do they think we'd be saving that money if he left?
7533
7534Sorry, but that's an awful article and I seriously question their integrity.
7535
7536DodgyLandings
7537##	2018-07-22T08:01:12+00:00	
7538You've still not found a source. Russia doesn't count, and surprisingly, neither does the Syrian Government. Christ.
7539
7540DodgyLandings
7541##	2018-07-22T08:02:48+00:00	
7542Fucking hell, missed the name. Lovely.
7543
7544DodgyLandings
7545##	2018-07-22T08:10:55+00:00	
7546Can you find me a list of articles the BBC have had to retract because they made them up?
7547
7548DodgyLandings
7549##	2018-07-22T08:10:32+00:00	
7550No, Russia Today is another propaganda arm of the Russian Government. I wouldn't trust them if they said the sky was blue.
7551
7552Russia are not, and have never, acted honestly over Syria.
7553
7554DodgyLandings
7555##	2018-07-22T08:13:07+00:00	
7556I read the BBC article, and it's clear they're reporting facts - which is why I like the BBC.
7557
7558How about find a source that isn't Russia or Syria
7559
7560DodgyLandings
7561##	2018-07-22T08:29:36+00:00	
7562Id never heard of it to be honest.
7563
7564DodgyLandings
7565##	2018-07-22T08:30:45+00:00	
7566I didn't look them up, I was referring to your comments about the BBC Article.
7567
7568DodgyLandings
7569##	2018-07-23T06:43:34+00:00	
7570It takes somebody who is completely not worthy of society to do that. Should they get convicted I hope for some serious minimum terms
7571
7572DodgyLandings
7573##	2018-07-23T06:47:31+00:00	
7574Because if you want a house you're left with little choice.
7575
7576Ultimately the market value of something is simply what somebody will pay for it - it's far from some kind of exact science. During normal periods the bank are simply ensuring they stand a good chance of getting their money back if you default and they reposess.
7577
7578Instead, the mortgage providers are hedging their bets and working on a presumption that the value is going to go down - they aren't saying the house is currently worth x, they're really saying they believe it'll be worth x in a year or two.
7579
7580DodgyLandings
7581##	2018-07-23T07:06:08+00:00	
7582No, the lenders value is based on the risk as they see it - they are not the one true value.
7583
7584And and Estate Agent is making much by over pricing a property - they'll make much more cash selling two properties under value than selling one overvalued property. The real issue in those terms is sellers choosing whoever tells them what they want to hear.
7585
7586Buying over that value does not make someone a fool - especially long term. Slightly more risky, absolutely but you can't just label people fools.
7587
7588DodgyLandings
7589##	2018-07-23T07:10:01+00:00	
7590Except it's not knowledge - it's a hunch and a theory. And while banks employ some very clever people, it's all a game of balancing risk - they can't tell the future.
7591
7592And, like I say, the risk for a bank is different from a personal risk. Worst case for you is you can't sell the house for a few years - for most people that's unlikely to be an issue.
7593
7594DodgyLandings
7595##	2018-07-23T07:23:02+00:00	
7596How many people do you reckon are involved in your average lenders valuation? It isn't something they sink hours in to.
7597
7598DodgyLandings
7599##	2018-07-23T07:39:13+00:00	
7600Nope.
7601
7602DodgyLandings
7603##	2018-07-23T07:47:10+00:00	
7604No they're not. The lenders are trying to avoid any chance of losing money. Paying above market value isn't the same as being in negative equity.
7605
7606DodgyLandings
7607##	2018-07-23T08:07:18+00:00	
7608Which is what I said?
7609
7610DodgyLandings
7611##	2018-07-24T06:49:48+00:00	
7612How the fuck is Gloucester not on that list!
7613
7614DodgyLandings
7615##	2018-07-24T20:53:53+00:00	
7616Haha, class. You realise the chart references the idea of no trucks delivering literally anything?
7617
7618DodgyLandings
7619##	2018-07-24T21:11:45+00:00	
7620Look mate, I'm a heavy remainer but fuck me sort your shit out. We are not suddenly going to be a 3rd world country.
7621
7622Our crude primarily comes from Norway, OPEC and Russia.
7623
7624DodgyLandings
7625##	2018-07-24T21:18:16+00:00	
7626In the context of the poster, I'm sure lots of important chemicals and components of the water network are transported by truck so I'm sure things would end badly if they stopped.
7627
7628But the poster is (I'm assuming) highlighting the importance of trucks and truckers - not giving some kind of doomsday prediction.
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7631##	2018-07-24T21:39:36+00:00	
7632Well, it was fuel running out ten minutes ago....
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7635##	2018-07-25T11:02:29+00:00	
7636Genuinely? I say this as a remainer - I'm confident 99 percent of this is posturing to show the EU we 'mean it' and are seriously seeing No Deal as an option.
7637
7638It's a risky strategy, but it makes sense. If you keep saying you'll walk away from the table but have no plans to do so then nobody is going to believe you.
7639
7640That and, really, it's good contingency planning. I doubt a No Deal Brexit will happen but even if it does I doubt it's going to be quite that bad. We can still buy plenty of stuff from plenty of countries and the whole port issue is our own. We can do what we like if the stuff is in our ports.
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