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1[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Tarn#6100
2Hey.
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7[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] newveeplus#3297
8It's TARN ❤
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10[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
11my non-df friends are looking at this now and saying oh this all makes sense now, it has graphics! lol
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13[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] ThreeToe#2757
14hehehe
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19[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
20D: Tarn and Kruggsmash and Threetoe D:
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22[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
23hi tarn!
24
25[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
26WOW
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28[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
29Heya!
30
31[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
32OKAY YEAH THAT'S UNEXPECTED
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34[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] Kenny#7611
35omg, everbody's here xD
36
37[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] newveeplus#3297
38HEHEHEEH
39
40[13-Mar-19 11:14 AM] newveeplus#3297
41*MANIACAL CACKLING*
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43[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Kenny#7611
44congratulations for this future release guys
45
46[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Kenny#7611
47of course it will be day one purchase
48
49[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
50hi zach!
51
52[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] ThreeToe#2757
53hi tonya! hi everyone!
54
55[13-Mar-19 11:15 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
56all i know about DF is this one image macro i've had saved on my computer for like 6 years
57
58[13-Mar-19 11:16 AM] ThreeToe#2757
59tAnya
60
61[13-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Fen#5319
62I LOVE THE ORIGINAL IM SO EXCITED
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64[13-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
65It can only be good :))
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67[13-Mar-19 11:16 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
68FAQ: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/edit?ts=5c786ef7
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70{Embed}
71https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/edit?ts=5c786ef7
72Dwarf Fortress on Steam FAQ
73Dwarf Fortress on Steam & itch.io FAQ  What is Dwarf Fortress??? The deepest, most intricate simulation of a world that’s ever been created, and one of the most astounding games of all time! You can read more on the Steam Coming Soon page here, the itch.io page here, or the...
74https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/T4_uD-z1_tiQVFtNyJdyqkUtYsG02RwKr2iQbX5bPTHpvbsDbddjdOAfMNjlbw0NIySDEw=w1200-h630-p
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76[13-Mar-19 11:16 AM] newveeplus#3297
77Pinned a message.
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79[13-Mar-19 11:17 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
80Tarn and Zach will also do some AMAs tomorrow ? but you can get a sneak preview of chatting with them today. I guess you just can't ask them anything. you can just chat like normals.
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82[13-Mar-19 11:17 AM] Tarn#6100
83Once I get this coffee in me...  8am...  ah
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85[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] ThreeToe#2757
86Tarn says I will get arrested for making grammar mistakes.  That's my dirty secret.  I've written a thousand reward stories and I still can't spell!
87
88[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] mr_seeker#3552
89Good day ?
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91[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
92oh wow the dev list got big
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94[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
95that's a special discord bonus. misspelled words.
96
97[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] mr_seeker#3552
98I have never personally thanked you guys for the monthly spam about my knight ?
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100[13-Mar-19 11:18 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
101straight from the devs
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103[13-Mar-19 11:19 AM] Vics#5525
104My twitter timeline is going NUTS
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106[13-Mar-19 11:19 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
107gunna need to get some bot commands to sign up for the DF faction
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109[13-Mar-19 11:19 AM] newveeplus#3297
110all the kitfoxes on discord for todays announcement ?
111
112[13-Mar-19 11:19 AM] mr_seeker#3552
113<- patreon backer ?
114
115[13-Mar-19 11:19 AM] Vics#5525
116Haha bless them
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118[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] DwarfComic#6926
119One small step for Dwarfs one giant leap for Bay12. Going to be more fans coming! Awesome.
120
121[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
122everybody got in here
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124[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] ThreeToe#2757
125Thanks seeker!
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127[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] Vics#5525
128You’ve made a lot of people happy with this.
129
130[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] newveeplus#3297
131gotta think of a new role for Dwarf Fortress peoples hehe
132
133[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] mr_seeker#3552
134@newveeplus "Dwarf Overlord"?
135
136[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] Kn0ss0s#7895
137Amazing news @Tarn - no idea what this discord is for, just wanted to send my congrats xD
138
139[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
140Urist
141
142[13-Mar-19 11:20 AM] newveeplus#3297
143oooo
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145[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] keupo#9668
146I'm uncomfortable with the depiction of beak dogs, in the crayon drawing they had feathers
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148[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
149do the feathers make it better or worse
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151[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
152Thanks so much @Tarn  and @ThreeToe  for hundreds of hours of happiness. ? I'm happy it's coming to a wider audience.
153
154[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] newveeplus#3297
155awwww ❤
156
157[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] newveeplus#3297
158y'all are such a lovely group
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160[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] Kn0ss0s#7895
161@TheKoolEagle fancy meeting you here :p
162
163[13-Mar-19 11:21 AM] mr_seeker#3552
164@ThreeToe I think it's almost 43 emails now...
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166[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
167hey vic one of the subreddit mods called you a sweetheart in the announcement thread
168
169[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] newveeplus#3297
170AWE
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172[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] mr_seeker#3552
173I really should write down the story of the "Dragon Slayer" ?
174
175[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Kawa#7680
176Yeah, just 'Urist' would be a good one. Also @Tanya_KitfoxGames the Google Doc mentions two books you and @Tarn edited; I know (and own) *Procedural Generation in Game Design* but what's the other? Or was that a typo?
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178[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Agthor#5665
179Just came down to wishing you guy’s the best of luck with this great new adventure
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181[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] newveeplus#3297
182@clinodev YOU SWEETIE
183
184[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
185o_o
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187[13-Mar-19 11:22 AM] newveeplus#3297
188thank you @Agthor !!!
189
190[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
191our next one is coming out next week! ? https://www.crcpress.com/Procedural-Storytelling-in-Game-Design/Short-Adams/p/book/9781138595309
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194https://www.crcpress.com/Procedural-Storytelling-in-Game-Design/Short-Adams/p/book/9781138595309
195Procedural Storytelling in Game Design
196This edited collection of chapters concerns the evolving discipline of procedural storytelling in video games. Games are an interactive medium, and this interplay between author, player and machine provides new and exciting ways to create and tell stories. In each essay, prac...
197https://images.tandf.co.uk/common/jackets/crclarge/978113859/9781138595309.jpg
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199[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Lewd#0639
200@ThreeToe Thanks for Dwarf Fortress, your game is amazing.
201
202[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Lewd#0639
203?
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205[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Mansen#2206
206:ablobwavereverse:
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208[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] ThreeToe#2757
209thanks again, we don't usually receive feedback for the AAR stories.
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211[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
212Literally waiting for you guys do get six ages to pc, now you're going to fancy up DF? What a way to enter my world as a brand
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217[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] mr_seeker#3552
218That's a heavy book
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220[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Tarn#6100
221do beakdogs have feathers in the raws?  they've changed over time between lovebirds and those things from tremors 2, ha ha ha
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223[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] Lewd#0639
224@Tarn And thank you too. ?
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226[13-Mar-19 11:23 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
227lol hey @Kn0ss0s
228
229[13-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Kawa#7680
230(Also I hope for dorf emoji from this Discord now...)
231
232[13-Mar-19 11:24 AM] newveeplus#3297
233oh you KNOW it
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235[13-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
236oh yeah tarn, why does dralthas not have noses
237
238[13-Mar-19 11:24 AM] newveeplus#3297
239gotta make some DF emojis
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241[13-Mar-19 11:24 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
242that's such a weird thing
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244[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Enclave#1473
245Do we know if the steam version tileset will be modifiable?
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247[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Mala#7349
248beakdogs in raws have no feathers, but rainbow colored skin, if I recall
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250[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] mr_seeker#3552
251@newveeplus please make one with the original df tiles ?
252
253[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] newveeplus#3297
254:DF_Logo_White:
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256[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] wyrmling#3582
257Congrats on the announcement Tarn and Kitfox crew! (It's Damian)
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259[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] mr_seeker#3552
260yeah ?
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262[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Tarn#6100
263we had a sketchpad where we drew all those creatures at once, and our terrible draltha drawing had just sort of a round face without a clear nose if I remember
264
265[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Kn0ss0s#7895
266I'm guessing that all the settings will be customizable like standard DF.
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268[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
269do you still have those?
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271[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Tarn#6100
272I'm pretty sure we still have that over at Zach's place, I should scan it
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274[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
275I'd love to see that
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277[13-Mar-19 11:25 AM] Chargin#9748
278@Tarn you’re amazing. Keep up the fantastic work. Will continue to support you no matter what platform you’re on. Best wishes to you and your family.
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280[13-Mar-19 11:26 AM] Furtuka#7838
281\o/
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283[13-Mar-19 11:26 AM] newveeplus#3297
284i cannot keep up with all the twitter notifications haha this is so cuteee
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286[13-Mar-19 11:26 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
287this tileset looks baller too, will help some of my viewers tell what the heck is actually going on lol
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289[13-Mar-19 11:26 AM] Tarn#6100
290@Chargin Thanks!  this'll be fun.
291
292[13-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Mansen#2206
293Is the "port" being done exclusivity by Bay12, or are Kitfox helping here? :bcaFightFite:
294
295[13-Mar-19 11:27 AM] Lonjil#0666
296Hello, I'm from the largest fan-run Dwarf Fortress Discord, and I want to ask who I should talk to about potentially linking to here from there?
297
298[13-Mar-19 11:27 AM] newveeplus#3297
299hello hello that's meee @Lonjil!
300
301[13-Mar-19 11:27 AM] newveeplus#3297
302feel free to DM me
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304[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Enclave#1473
305@Tanya_KitfoxGames Will the steam version have a modifiable tileset? Say if an artist wanted to make their own version are the files open to modify?
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307[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Tarn#6100
308I'm doing all the code changes, and Kitfox contracted Mayday and Meph and Dabu, and we're all working together on the art with feedback etc.
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310[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] clinodev#7030
311@newveeplus I saw a "You Sweetie," but I was busy madly sending messages to people, lol. What did I do?
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313[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] keupo#9668
314I have a some more serious questions, not about beak dogs: The new tileset looks like it uses text will be text, which isn't/wasn't a vanilla thing; has the structure of the tiles changed?
315
316[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
317Shoutout to a nearly dead subreddit that used to be really active.  Maybe this crowd could ressurect /r/succession.  It involved passing save files around and telling stories based on the time you had with the fort.
318
319[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] newveeplus#3297
320haha I was saying thanks for saying I'm nice on Reddit ?
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322[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] keupo#9668
323And how will dfhack play in the steam version
324
325[13-Mar-19 11:28 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
326@Tarn hope your family situation improves, I’ll keep supporting you on patreon not sure if you remember me.
327
328[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
329I had a monthly subscription to you on paypal for so long quite a while ago
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331[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Tarn#6100
332@Enclave Yeah, it's all moddable.  Just like the current creature graphics pretty much.  Out in txt files.
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334[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
335never felt a game deserved my money to such an extent
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337[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
338By the way, it may be nessesary to add a rule not to ping you guys as a game dev myself it can get annoying
339
340[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] Enclave#1473
341@Tarn Great thank you
342
343[13-Mar-19 11:29 AM] ThreeToe#2757
344@Untrustedlife of course!  We keep a close eye on the forums and our biggest fans.
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346[13-Mar-19 11:30 AM] newveeplus#3297
347fair enough, might have to do that
348
349[13-Mar-19 11:30 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
350Ayy just trying to help
351
352[13-Mar-19 11:30 AM] Mala#7349
353Now that there's official art, I should make the art in armok vision match it
354
355[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] eniteris#5614
356❤
357
358[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
359hey, Japa!
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361[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
362Kruggsmash! Love your videos man
363
364[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
365krugg :Pog:
366
367[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] WiiU420#0420
368what % finished is the game at rn?
369
370[13-Mar-19 11:31 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
37144%
372
373[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] WiiU420#0420
374based
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376[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] eniteris#5614
377Ah yes, releasing in early access, a Steam tradition ?
378
379[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Mala#7349
380Heya Kruggsmash
381
382[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Lonjil#0666
383@keupo might be a modified version of the pre-existing TTF support?
384
385[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Accujack#4515
386Tarn, is there anything I could send you to induce you to re-work the game to use GPU chips instead of the CPU?  Massive DF worlds using crypto mining rigs ?
387
388[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Lewd#0639
389@Kruggsmash Thanks for making some very entertaining videos.
390
391[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Tarn#6100
392@keupo Yeah, we're doing some transparency and layering and not strictly using a same-size grid for everything, so there'll be some changes there.  I dunno out dfhack works or how that sort of thing works with Steam Workshop etc. -- we'll support what we can.
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394[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Kn0ss0s#7895
395Does steam get anything out of hosting it? Or do they host free games in general?
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397[13-Mar-19 11:32 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
398Heh DF has been doing early access longer then any other game :p
399
400[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
401@keupo how have things been we haven’t talked in awhile
402
403[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
404the Steam and itch.io versions will be $19.99
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406[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Mala#7349
407@Kn0ss0s I believe the steam version will be paid
408
409[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Simpu#8629
410How big is steam's cut?
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412[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Kn0ss0s#7895
413Ahhh! Ok! That's cool!
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415[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
416That seems reasonable
417
418[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
419(I tried to get Steam to go for $20 even but no dice)
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421[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] Cruxador#9109
422Two questions for Tarn, or anyone if it's been mentioned. How much are the artists intended to check with Bay12 on keeping the appearances of things consistent with original intent, and how much is fan content (twbt and other dfhack stuff) influence the new graphic system?
423
424[13-Mar-19 11:33 AM] WingXVII#1712
425canadian?
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427[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
428@Tanya_KitfoxGames I love your game moon hunter, I figured you had something to do with this.
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433[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
434Steam takes 30%, unless you make zillions of dollars and then they go down to 20% i think
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436[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Kenny#7611
437guys, AMA tomorrow I think, wait for your questions xD
438
439[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] newveeplus#3297
440yeah!!
441
442[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] Falcc#7019
443Definitely buying it on Itchi.io
444
445[13-Mar-19 11:34 AM] eniteris#5614
446What's the cut through itch.io, for reference?
447
448[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Amitai#0913
449Are mods going to be uploaded to the steam workshop? Like dwarf therapist, autolabor etc?
450
451[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Falcc#7019
452The Itch page looks great too. Look at those features
453
454[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] ThreeToe#2757
455@Kruggsmash just watched Age of Pain video.  Very cool.
456
457[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Cruxador#9109
458And a third, how does development for this interact with the schedule for the magic system and its related features? Just interspersed as Kitfox and the artists need code support?
459
460[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] newveeplus#3297
461mods will be uploaded if people decide to make them for workshop
462
463[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
464i'm hoping this type of exposure will bring a big surge to the DF community
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466[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
467I just hope the company stays the same it always has been and that you guys don’t try to force tarn and Zach in any specific direction I hope that was part of your contract. There is always a chance with publishers. But I trust you guys
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472[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] 209CATrus#3171
473Came here to see Toady. Toady, good time of day!
474
475[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] newveeplus#3297
476hopefully it beings exposure too ?
477
478[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] keis#5511
479w00t, dwarf fortress. so awesome!
480
481[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] newveeplus#3297
482oh yeah, we aren't going to force Tarn and Zach into anything @Untrustedlife  ❤
483
484[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Gromcal#2669
485congrats DF!
486
487[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Lonjil#0666
488Would it be possible to sell a pack of both a Steam and Itch key? I know Steam usually doesn't mind devs doing that.
489
490[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] ThreeToe#2757
491@Mala thanks for supporting and helping out
492
493[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] Harris#4340
494Uh Hi my name is Harris 
495I'm a #gamer and boy am I pumped to finally have an approachable version of Dwarf Fortress
496
497[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] newveeplus#3297
498but actions speak louder than words
499
500[13-Mar-19 11:35 AM] newveeplus#3297
501so you know~
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503[13-Mar-19 11:36 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
504Yep
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506[13-Mar-19 11:36 AM] newveeplus#3297
507YEAAA @Harris !!!
508
509[13-Mar-19 11:36 AM] gleem#8806
510ITS HAPPENING
511
512[13-Mar-19 11:36 AM] gleem#8806
513AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
514
515[13-Mar-19 11:36 AM] Mala#7349
516@ThreeToe Thanks for making such a great game
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518{Reactions}
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521[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
522Both of you are awesome @Tarn and @ThreeToe
523
524[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Captain_Duck#4172
525Ah hey there. Man it was tough keeping that secret hah.
526
527[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] newveeplus#3297
528heheh
529
530[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Weaver#2966
531whoa
532
533[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] keupo#9668
534https://imgur.com/gallery/DFAT4Zj
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536{Reactions}
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539[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Lonjil#0666
540OH it's Cap Duck
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542[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Lonjil#0666
543So many cool people here
544
545[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Tarn#6100
546@Cruxador Mayday and Meph have been modding for a long time and we are coordinating the art with them -- sometimes they remember stuff I don't remember about how stuff should look, ha ha ha.  I'm aware of twbt of course and Meph's also quite familiar with it, so I imagine it'll have some influence.  And in general, once you step away from the grid a little, regular game design intuition can kick in a bit, and I'm not a total loss there, ha ha ha
547
548[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] clinodev#7030
549Do we know what formats the Steam version will come in? PC, Mac, Linux?
550
551[13-Mar-19 11:37 AM] Harris#4340
552*fingers crossed for a Nokia N-Gage release*
553
554[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
555this is like the DF Celebrity A-list up in here
556
557[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
558Heh true
559
560[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] newveeplus#3297
561harris plz
562
563[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] newveeplus#3297
564hahaha I RECRUITED ALL OF EM
565
566[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] newveeplus#3297
567GET ALL THE CELEBS(?)
568
569[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
570ps vita
571
572[13-Mar-19 11:38 AM] 209CATrus#3171
573Toady, can you fix caravans in upcoming release please? It's really annoying bug – at some point caravan just freezes in time and place.
574
575[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Harris#4340
576Tayna don't even SAY IT or else you gotta do it
577
578[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] mr_seeker#3552
579@Harris I am still looking for a mod that makes it possible to go multiplayer...
580
581[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
582?
583
584[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
585And this is why the ping rule is necessary ^
586
587[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] clinodev#7030
588Also holy heck keupo's link above, awesome.
589
590[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] ThreadOfFate#0069
591tanya if it's not on atari 2600 why even bother
592
593[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Cruxador#9109
594Wasn't meaning to insinuate that you couldn't come up with good ideas on your own, it's just that the game has so many years of people refining notions of what UI could be.
595
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599[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Accujack#4515
600I'm quite interested in the Steam version because I'm hoping greater exposure will drive bigger and better features... either through Tarn getting employees, or through improved support for workshop mods.  The system used by DFHack is okay, but there are issues that prevent some more interesting mods from being written.  I'd like to see a simple plug-in API, for instance.
601
602[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Chargin#9748
603My girlfriend is going to freak out. She loves watching me play DF but its way too scary for her. She likened it to "staring into the Matrix" but absolutely can't get enough of the crazy stories I tell her. Exciting stuff!
604
605[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Tarn#6100
606@clinodev PC definitely.  I'm not 100% confident of my Mac/Linux setups for Steam so I have to poke around before I can promise day-one there.  My Mini is like 10 years old.
607
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610
611[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Furtuka#7838
612@ThreeToe @Tarn  Been playing for like a decade now. Love you guys! Hope things work out great~
613
614[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
615@ThreeToe Haha! Thanks so much!
616
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620[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] newveeplus#3297
621yeah I gotta make this ping rule ahh so many things to do haha
622
623[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] Amitai#0913
624Are there any plans for multi-core support?
625
626[13-Mar-19 11:39 AM] clinodev#7030
627Cheers. It's a popular question on the subreddit.
628
629[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
630OK BUT honsetly you're all so nice haha
631
632[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
633DONT FORGET AMA TOMORROW
634
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638[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
639ON R/DWARFFORTRESS
640
641[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Lonjil#0666
642Asking again: would it be possible to sell a pack of both a Steam key and an Itch key?
643
644[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Alex#4210
645NINTENDO FORTRESS DWARF SWITCH
646
647[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
648for all the questions you might miss
649
650[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
651alex plz
652
653[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] RyanFM#3178
654Oh boy this is some really cool news
655
656[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
657Oh there’s an AMA tomorrow TIL
658
659[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Mala#7349
660I was using a hackintosh for my mac releases of Armok Vision, and it was terrible
661
662[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Harris#4340
663ok I don't need to be another hectic variable in this mess, see you goobers at PAX ?
664
665[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] G3Kappa#4580
666Wow, this is such a big day. I just wanted to steal this moment to let Zach & Tarn know how much I admire and respect them for... well, everything. You guys are my inspiration. I'm very sorry to hear you're going through some hard times. I hope that this release will bring more exposure and revenue to DF, and I also want to thank Kitfox for having such a nice attitude towards the game. In truth, when I read the title of the announcement I got a scared that DF would undergo major changes. I'm so glad this isn't the case. The new tileset looks dope as well, and Workshop support seems like a great addition to me.
667
668Cheers!!
669
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672
673[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
674yeah I should pin a message about the AMA
675
676[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Accujack#4515
677@Amitai That's actually a FAQ for DF.. along with my question on GPU computing support.  It would require a major game re-work, so it's not likely to happen soon.
678
679[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] newveeplus#3297
680Awwwwwwwww @G3Kappa ❤
681
682[13-Mar-19 11:40 AM] Captain_Duck#4172
683Dwarf Fortress for the philips CDI is the next big upcoming update
684
685[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Lonjil#0666
686Dwarf Fortress for eZ80 pls
687
688[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Accujack#4515
689I'd love a Raspberry Pi version, so I could keep my fortress running on battery power and carry it with me ?
690
691[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
692One final question, will the FOTF continue being a thing?
693
694[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Cruxador#9109
695@Accujack it sounds like the employees are actually Kitfox employees, not Bay12 employees.
696
697[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] newveeplus#3297
698Dwarf Fortress AMA - https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/
699March 14th, 12pm PT! If we don't answer your questions here because wow messages are going fast, you'll have your chance!
700
701{Embed}
702https://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/
703r/dwarffortress
704https://styles.redditmedia.com/t5_2qyn1/styles/communityIcon_k33q1uumr2511.jpeg?format=pjpg&s=f7f2999132831a28d28285d936f4db915943772a
705
706[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Lonjil#0666
707Need to play on calculator during class
708
709[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Amitai#0913
710@Accujack ?
711
712[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] newveeplus#3297
713Pinned a message.
714
715[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] Accujack#4515
716@Cruxador For the moment, yes.
717
718[13-Mar-19 11:41 AM] IslaWoof#2222
719:mLurk:
720
721[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] keis#5511
722tileset does look nice but I *need* the happy faces
723
724[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Lonjil#0666
725@newveeplus will that be Kitfox and Bay12, or only Kitfox?
726
727[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
728Bay12 primarily
729
730[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] newveeplus#3297
731both!
732
733[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] newveeplus#3297
734yeah
735
736[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Lonjil#0666
737oki
738
739[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
740@Lonjil kitfox is only the publisher
741
742[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Mala#7349
743@keis it's still moddable
744
745[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] Lonjil#0666
746@Untrustedlife I know
747
748[13-Mar-19 11:42 AM] eniteris#5614
749@Accujack  Yes, an ARM7 build for Dwarf Fortress would be great, but I doubt they have the processor power for it. But still, a handheld DF would be nice.
750
751[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Lonjil#0666
752But I have publishing questions!
753
754[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Mala#7349
755DF For the switch
756
757[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Tarn#6100
758@Cruxador re: schedule.  Villains -> fixes -> code for steam -> steam release -> whatever panicky stuff needs to be fixed -> pre-magic other stuff (armies, adv med, wtvr) -> magic big wait.  And yeah, we were planning to fork during the big wait anyway to prevent things like the trap crash we got back during one of the other waits, so here, we'll be able to support the steam/free versions a bit while also grinding away at the first myth stuff
759
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763[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] 209CATrus#3171
764Anyway, can someone explain to newbie in this channel, why DF is moving into steam and itch.io? Financial problems?
765
766[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] newveeplus#3297
767checked pinned messages for FAQ btw~
768
769[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Accujack#4515
770@eniteris Yeah, but to be fair the way the game works atm it can kill any CPU... I'd love to see it work in parallel...
771
772[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] newveeplus#3297
773FAQ explains reason ?
774
775[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] ChronoDream#6568
776**Oh wow you're editing Dwarf Fortress !???**
777
778[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
779@209CATrus financial and health problems
780
781[13-Mar-19 11:43 AM] 209CATrus#3171
782Thanks
783
784[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] ChronoDream#6568
785(Hello to the DF team BTW ??)
786
787[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Dekker3D#7386
788Graphical update for DF. Hype! Even though the ramps aren't quite my style.
789
790[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Dekker3D#7386
791Been playing this for ages, tossed a few donations at it.
792
793[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Lonjil#0666
794ascii4lyfe
795
796[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] G3Kappa#4580
797I had never seen ramps done like that. I'm intrigued
798
799[13-Mar-19 11:44 AM] Chargin#9748
800At some point, we're going to have to upload @Tarn 's and @ThreeToe 's consciousness into the Matrix so they can work on DF until the Dwarves grow sentient.
801
802[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Dekker3D#7386
803I'm a LNP kinda guy, though I used to be hardcore ASCII back in the day.
804
805[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
806Heh.
807
808[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Major Tom#3438
809Yo dorfs coming to steam thats so freaking cool
810
811[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Lukaus#6236
812Im scared
813
814[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Mala#7349
815I think the ramps in the concept art have the light reversed
816
817[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Extricated#9348
818Do we know when DF is coming to Steam? I've been waiting years for a way to track my playtime
819
820[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Joseph B#7458
821I'm glad you've got Mike on the graphics, I never play without his stuff.
822
823[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Dekker3D#7386
824Tbh, support for ramp direction means other tilesets could also do nice things with it.
825
826[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] mr_seeker#3552
827@Dekker3D join the team... I really love to have an SSH terminal to play DF
828
829[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Dekker3D#7386
830Heh.
831
832[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Tarn#6100
833@Untrustedlife Yeah, definitely still doing FOTF.  Even if after the Steam release it somehow becomes unwieldy (we can only hope!) I'll still answer as many ?s as I can
834
835[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Major Tom#3438
836Damn hi Toady!
837
838[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Dekker3D#7386
839Oh right. Tarn and ThreeToe here. More hype!
840
841[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
842Good to hear!
843
844[13-Mar-19 11:45 AM] Major Tom#3438
845Oh ThreeToe is here too? Hi too!
846
847[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
848I feel like all the DF celebrities are here. lol @Captain_Duck @Captain_Duck and of course the awesome devs.
849
850[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Joseph B#7458
851So Tarn, are you prepared for another explosion in DF popularity?
852
853[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Accujack#4515
854I really think there need to be Steam achievements for DF, too... "Losing is fun" (first fortress death), "Ashes to Ashes" (dragon burns out fortress), "Meow, meow, BOOM!" (Catsplosion) ?
855
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858
859[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Dekker3D#7386
860I've only gotten halfway through the Patreon post.. is the free version going to stay updated or is it like a free demo now?
861
862[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Kenny#7611
863Kruggsmash, Japa, everyboyd's here,
864
865[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Kenny#7611
866ATTEND PARTY
867
868[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Dekker3D#7386
869KSP basically just uses old versions as demos.
870
871[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Captain_Duck#4172
872im a celebrity now wow
873
874[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
875Aaa it's coming to Steam!!!
876
877[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
878err I meant to tag Krugg and Captain Duck
879
880[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Dekker3D#7386
881Oh crap Steam achievements... I love that idea.
882
883[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
884@Dekker3D it will stay updated
885
886[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Lukaus#6236
887@Dekker3D I think I saw that they said it'd always be updated
888
889[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Majickthise#9497
890This was an awesome tweet to catch this morning.  Is this a new graphics layer with new hooks? Or more of a spiffier deeper tileset and some soundsense?  Either way I'm glad to see the Steam release!
891
892[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Tarn#6100
893Hi @ChronoDream!
894
895[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] mr_seeker#3552
896@Accujack "oops, i broke sanity" and "there goes the neighbourhood"
897
898[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
899HARRIS
900
901[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Dekker3D#7386
902Though it would have to be for unmodded forts or it would be super easy to get them all.
903
904[13-Mar-19 11:46 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
905I'm literally upgrading my computer just to play DF better lel
906
907[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
908It’s likely updates will come to the non-steam version first most of the time?
909
910[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] River#5930
911Well this is totally unexpected but awesome
912
913[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Joseph B#7458
914I think the most exciting thing will be just how many people will actually sit down and try DF, after hearing about it all these years.
915
916[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Dekker3D#7386
917I'd be lying if I said DF never factored in my PC upgrade decisions..
918
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921
922[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] formless#8639
923Hello! I've been playing since 2012 and Dwarf Fortress remains one of my favorite games of all. But to get right to the point: Does outside help mean there's a possibility we'll see multithreaded pathfinding and temperature calculations? @Tarn
924
925[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Extricated#9348
926is there any price/release date info?
927
928[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] Tarn#6100
929Hi @Major Tom !
930
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933
934[13-Mar-19 11:47 AM] River#5930
935All I hope for is a Linux release for the Steam/Itch versions but I gather that's on the table?
936
937[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] ThreeToe#2757
938hi to all the new people and "Congratulations to the Generous"  This all exists because of you
939
940[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Major Tom#3438
941Is steam dwarf fortress version graphic only or i can play ascii
942
943[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] eniteris#5614
944@Extricated Price is 19.99USD as listed. Release date TBD.
945
946[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
947Good computers are necessary especially for my 3000 year old world hens :p
948
949[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
950Gens*
951
952[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Lexicon#2409
953you can play ascii
954
955[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Dekker3D#7386
956They're getting outside help? I'd love to see the game multithreaded.
957
958[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Major Tom#3438
959Niceu
960
961[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Lukaus#6236
962@Tarn @ThreeToe , is the "Dwarf Fortress Classic" going to have the same features/updates as Steam/itchio version?
963
964[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
965I've been playing the game since at least 2010 I think?
966
967[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Dekker3D#7386
968I've got 12 cores. I could cause 12 times as much mayhem if it went multithreaded!
969
970[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] eniteris#5614
971@River Toady needs to check the code, so no guarantee for day-one Linux support.
972
973[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Accujack#4515
974@mr_seeker How about "Were what?" (werecreature infections) and "Insufficiently buoyant"?
975
976[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Dekker3D#7386
977No, 6 with hyperthreading. Herp derp.
978
979[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Major Tom#3438
980Im so used to ascii version so seing df with graphics makes me kinda lost
981
982[13-Mar-19 11:48 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
983Boatmurderes is what got me into DF in the first place
984
985[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
986Yes , but no graphics/new music/or steam achievements @Lukaus
987
988[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
989Boatmurdered*
990
991[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] mr_seeker#3552
992@Accujack "lost in time" (frozen in ice)
993
994[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Accujack#4515
995@Dekker3D I'd like GPU parallelization... giant worlds with a half dozen 1080Tis
996
997[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
998This is answered in the reddit/patreon posts
999
1000[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1001Oh lol..
1002
1003[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] shitidontknow#3666
1004Hey there, congrats on the news.  I was wondering if coming to steam means it would be easier to use a mix of mods and graphics packs on OSX? Right now on OSX it's pretty much one or the other and multiple mods is really difficult to mix together. I've only used steam a couple times to play Rimworld but mod/graphics mixing is really nice and simple.
1005
1006[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Tarn#6100
1007@Dekker3D Free version will always be up to date with the Steam version, just without the included tile set and audio.  Modders will have access to whatever new capabilities we add, and the core features will always match.
1008
1009{Reactions}
1010? (7) ? (5) ? (9) 
1011
1012[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1013Running the code on GPU would be much harder.
1014
1015[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1016First and foremost congratulations to the Dwarf Fortress team. DF has existed as a zeitgeist for computer gaming and the lowered bar of entry via Steam/Itch.io is really going to help get it out there.
1017
1018[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] mr_seeker#3552
1019@Tarn so basically, you provide the engine, kitfox provides the GUI?
1020
1021[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1022So basically, Steam version is an official Lazy Newb Pack?
1023
1024[13-Mar-19 11:49 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1025You're too good for this world, Tarn :PepeHands:
1026
1027[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Accujack#4515
1028@mr_seeker And of course "I see the Matrix" for playing in ASCII
1029
1030[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Fimbul K#6719
1031Hey I just wanted to say I really like the tileset u guys made and I'm more than ready to drop 20 bucks for this amazing game
1032
1033[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
1034I think boatmurdered was the inspiration for /r/succession too.
1035
1036[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
1037lol, this place turning into a goddamn moshpit, lol
1038
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1042[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] formless#8639
1043@Dekker3D Seems like it!
1044
1045[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] newveeplus#3297
1046@Kruggsmash BUT A GOOD ONE
1047
1048[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] newveeplus#3297
1049MAYBE
1050
1051[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] mr_seeker#3552
1052@Accujack no, that would be "going old-school" ?
1053
1054[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] newveeplus#3297
1055plz dont hurt us
1056
1057[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1058We're dorfs, Krugg.
1059
1060[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] eniteris#5614
1061Oh wait, Steam Achievements?
1062
1063[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1064Dorfs that just got some great news.
1065
1066[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Kruggsmash#0286
1067woo! *rips off shirt*
1068
1069[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Early worm#4554
1070Only dorfs
1071
1072[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1073Of course we're going *stark raving mad*
1074
1075{Reactions}
1076bigmood 
1077
1078[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] G3Kappa#4580
1079can I have some shells?
1080
1081[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Fimbul K#6719
1082I'll drink to that!
1083
1084[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Accujack#4515
1085@eniteris Yep, we're imagining
1086
1087[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] shaggy#1396
1088I thought this was a joke at first
1089
1090[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] shaggy#1396
1091I must be dreaming
1092
1093[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1094achievements will be a special time
1095
1096[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] G3Kappa#4580
1097guys I need some shells
1098
1099[13-Mar-19 11:50 AM] mr_seeker#3552
1100@Kruggsmash moshpit? Where's the beer? ?
1101
1102[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] shaggy#1396
1103It’s time lads
1104
1105[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
1106There's a succession game subreddit?! Since when?
1107
1108[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] eniteris#5614
1109I remember a cut-and-paste gamelog achievement maker for DF...let me find it.
1110
1111[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1112@Tarn do you see much work necessary to get DF living in the Steam/Itch ecosystem? Or is it just a bump in the road compared to bigger fish?
1113
1114[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Major Tom#3438
1115@Tarn Big thanks for making Dwarf Fortress and continuing working on it!  Your game is one of the coolest things i have ever played and it has fans even here in cold cold russia!
1116
1117[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Captain_Duck#4172
1118I hope the steam version will also get the dwarf therapist, but thats going to be up to the modders of course
1119
1120[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Zorbeltuss#8628
1121Will there be both 32 and 64 bit versions of the game on steam and itch.io?
1122
1123[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
1124I hope Dwarf Therapist works with the new version
1125
1126[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
1127@Vintage Zombie We put it together years ago, but it's kind of dead now
1128
1129[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] eniteris#5614
1130http://df.zweistein.cz/achievement/
1131
1132[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Vintage Zombie#7439
1133Oh rip
1134
1135[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1136I'm sure it will, @Vintage Zombie
1137
1138[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] ragundo#4146
1139What happens to DFHack?. Will it be availaible  on the Steam version?
1140
1141[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1142It's basically the same game.
1143
1144[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Captain_Duck#4172
1145haha
1146
1147[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1148Just with some audio and tiles.
1149
1150[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Accujack#4515
1151There has to be one for "Fond of Drink and Industry" like having played 100 forts.
1152
1153[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] G3Kappa#4580
1154wait. Right. Achievements
1155
1156[13-Mar-19 11:51 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1157But those would be much like running the game with LNP
1158
1159[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Tarn#6100
1160@formless Kitfox hasn't contracted any programmers for me...  don't have any plans for that at the moment
1161
1162{Reactions}
1163? (4) ? (2) 
1164
1165[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1166Tarn’s code is only his to behold
1167
1168[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1169I would suspect/hope that things like DFHack would live on in the modding environment provided by Steam.
1170
1171[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] eniteris#5614
1172Well I'm going to 100% this game. Unless there's Steam Friends achievements. (multiplayer when? /s)
1173
1174[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] ragundo#4146
1175DFHack, DwarfTherapist, Armok Vision, etc. What happens to them?
1176
1177[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1178Tarn did let someone help make the SDL version, afaik.
1179
1180[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] clinodev#7030
1181Really, folks, read the pinned post or the reddit pinned post. Most of this is answered both places.
1182
1183[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1184Oh yeah that’s true
1185
1186[13-Mar-19 11:52 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1187But yeah, seems like he mostly keeps the coding to himself.
1188
1189[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] eniteris#5614
1190@ragundo Utilities will remain compatible with Dwarf Fortress Classic, but will probably have to be adapted for the Steam Workshop.
1191
1192[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Extricated#9348
1193c-could it launch today?
1194
1195[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Eodus#6390
1196How very exciting a prospect this is!
1197
1198[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Cruxador#9109
1199@Captain_Duck @ragundo It sounds like the steam version basically just has a complete front-end mod so things like that should be pretty straightforward.
1200
1201[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Lonjil#0666
1202@ragundo there is no reason they wont work with the Steam version
1203
1204[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1205They're finishing the villain update first
1206
1207[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1208@Extricated
1209
1210[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1211I’ve been trying to implement my own version of his raw system format oen roguelike
1212
1213[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Tarn#6100
1214@Major Tom can't tell if answered (ah, scroll bar!) but Steam wants ascii on a beta branch for people with DF in their library, cuz they like having all the things others have
1215
1216{Reactions}
1217? (3) 
1218
1219[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1220For my own*
1221
1222[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1223Neat.
1224
1225[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] PetrGasparik#0164
1226Hello!DF at Steam is amazing news!
1227
1228[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Extricated#9348
1229@Dekker3D Ah, do we know when that's due to launch?
1230
1231[13-Mar-19 11:53 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1232Are the version release numbers still going to denote percentage of reality simulated?
1233
1234[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] ThreeToe#2757
1235@Extricated  Villain release comes to DF Classic (free version) then Steam and itch after that
1236
1237[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] mr_seeker#3552
1238@Tarn call it the "classic" edition, not the "beta branch"
1239
1240[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1241When it's done, presumably.
1242
1243[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] paulbobrookins#4973
1244As soon as the option to buy or pre-order on Steam happens, I'm going to gift it to everyone I know.
1245
1246[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] PetrGasparik#0164
1247Is there a plan for DF at Discord?
1248
1249[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1250They devote the percentage of the game that is done @Bear Mother
1251
1252[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1253@Tarn is the reason that you're keeping the code secret that you actually discovered the secrets of life and death and you know that if it got out the world would go crazy due to all the bugs Necromancers have?
1254
1255[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Lonjil#0666
1256@mr_seeker that's just what steam calls it
1257
1258[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1259There's usually a month or so of boring "no more cats stuck in dragons" bugfixes before release.
1260
1261[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] mr_seeker#3552
1262meh
1263
1264[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Eodus#6390
1265I will tide myself over with the current build until then, and I do hope the two of you, Tarn and Zach, the best of wishes moving forward!
1266
1267[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1268I hate autocorrect
1269
1270[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] G3Kappa#4580
1271What would happen if I were to mod the steam version from _outside_ of the workshop and the game updated? Say, if wanted to install my own tilesets
1272
1273[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1274And even after that amount of time, sometimes you still end up sleeping inside and waking up on the roof.
1275
1276[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] Extricated#9348
1277@paulbobrookins That must mean it's time for us to become friends! ?
1278
1279{Reactions}
1280? 
1281
1282[13-Mar-19 11:54 AM] ragundo#4146
1283So  would Steam ibe happy with a game with a modified SDL library in order to run DFHack?
1284
1285[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1286There's a great big snarl of C++ under the hood somewhere I'd bet that to start. Plus these guys can't give away the open source yet it's a magnum opus it needs time to ferment.
1287
1288[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Tarn#6100
1289@shitidontknow Yeah, I imagine Steam Workshop makes that much easier; I still need to look at specifics.  Dunno that there'd be a difference between OSX and PC there, once we sort OSX out?
1290
1291{Reactions}
1292?? 
1293
1294[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1295I won't let you gift this to me, I NEED to buy it for myself.
1296
1297[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1298Other games can be modded too. You can put files in the KSP Steam folder too.
1299
1300[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1301Will steam version include dwarf therapist?
1302
1303[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1304Now I wonder if kitfox games has any programmer openings I am graduating with a degree in software engineering in May @Tanya_KitfoxGames
1305
1306[13-Mar-19 11:55 AM] Accujack#4515
1307@Tarn You really should create a library of "freemium" hats to sell, just for fun... here are some completed ones to get you started:  ^ *  ~
1308
1309{Reactions}
1310? (2) 
1311
1312[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1313Accujack, you jester
1314
1315[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] PetrGasparik#0164
1316What is the ETA for Steam launch - I miss Install button ?
1317
1318[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] newveeplus#3297
1319no ETA~
1320
1321{Reactions}
1322? 
1323
1324[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Accujack#4515
1325Accujester?  Hmm
1326
1327[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Kenny#7611
1328TIME IS SUBJECTIVE
1329
1330[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Cruxador#9109
1331@Tarn I don't know how much hassle it would be, but changing tilesets from within GUI would probably be handy for Steam folks - the system could then incorporate mod tilesets and opens up to sell visual overhaul DLC in the future, if there's demand.
1332
1333[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] River#5930
1334"After the villain update is out" is the current ETA
1335
1336[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] River#5930
1337AFAIK
1338
1339[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Eodus#6390
1340Do take your time!
1341
1342[13-Mar-19 11:56 AM] Major Tom#3438
1343@Tarn dont forget about steam trading cards :p
1344
1345[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Accujack#4515
1346I don't know how long the Steam release will take, but I'm pretty sure the more people are involved the more it will slow down...
1347
1348[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] PetrGasparik#0164
1349DF at Discord Store, later? ?
1350
1351[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Cruxador#9109
1352@mr_seeker A beta branch is a method of making game versions available in Steam.
1353
1354[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1355Planepacked should be on a trading card, for sure.
1356
1357{Reactions}
1358?? 
1359
1360[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1361@ThreeToe What is your source control strategy for DF? It it a daily commit to Git type deal, or are you guys more relaxed since it's still a small team project?
1362
1363[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1364But good luck drawing it.
1365
1366[13-Mar-19 11:57 AM] Mala#7349
1367@ragundo I don't see why dfhack won't work with the steam version
1368
1369[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Extricated#9348
1370is now a good time to crack a joke about not going with an epic games exclusivity deal?
1371
1372{Reactions}
1373? 
1374
1375[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1376@Bear Mother the person you likely want to ask is Tarn
1377
1378[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Mala#7349
1379In fact, I'm willing to bet dfhack and armok vision will be on the workshop
1380
1381[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Kenny#7611
1382I should save my qustion for tomorrow, but just in case
1383@Tarn  are you going to compose and make more music for this release? More guitar tracks sounds awesome....
1384
1385[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Lonjil#0666
1386@Bear Mother FYI there will be an AMA on reddit tomorrow for any questions that are missed here
1387
1388[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1389Did anyone catch a number on the price of the Steam version?
1390
1391[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Extricated#9348
1392@Dekker3D $20
1393
1394[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] G3Kappa#4580
1395$20
1396
1397[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1398Alright.
1399
1400[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Tarn#6100
1401@mr_seeker @Dekker3D yeah, something like that - and of course the individual artists get credit for the work they are doing, and we're all working together.  should be cool!
1402
1403[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Extricated#9348
1404My main excitement is that we can finally track our playtime, thank god
1405
1406{Reactions}
1407⌛ 
1408
1409[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1410@Tarn my main concern as a long time patron is that paying customers can demand features that you otherwise would avoid and this drive you away from your own project and decease you control of the project.
1411
1412[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1413About $19.99, Dekker
1414
1415[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1416@Dekker3D 19.99
1417
1418[13-Mar-19 11:58 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1419Yeah I don't really care one way or the other if they answer, it's just nice to get the opportunity to ask given Tarn and Zach are at a Wozniak level of legendary.
1420
1421[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1422Your playtime will be a wake-up call, Extricated..
1423
1424[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] ThreeToe#2757
1425@Bear Mother our practices are tiny as we have one programmer
1426
1427[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Zakar#2479
1428@Tarn  Hey Toady, long time fan and supporter here. I have a few questions. 1) Why not GOG too? 2) Aren't you worried that the Steam Workshop might split the modding community? (As an owner of PZ on GoG, I find its often hard to get mods because they were released only on the workshop, which acts as a walled garden) and 3) selling a product comes with responsibilities that might burn you from the project, different from getting donations. Are you worried about being burned off?
1429
1430[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Untrustedlife#4412
1431Well worth it for an infinite amount of procedural fantasy worlds I think
1432
1433[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Dekker3D#7386
1434I don't even want to know how many hours I've wasted on elaborate contraptions.
1435
1436[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] PetrGasparik#0164
1437I have just became  Patreon supporter. Here comes my $5/month
1438
1439[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Tarn#6100
1440@Ljósapaldr he he he, thanks.  And thanks for helping out before!  I recognize your name from then
1441
1442{Reactions}
1443? 
1444
1445[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] TheKoolEagle#0213
1446oh god i never thought about that.  we will have hours tracked on steam.  this does not bode well for me
1447
1448[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Syntheticus#4619
1449@Tarn Thanks so much for the great work. Love ya!
1450
1451[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Bear Mother#0880
1452Yeah I figured as much, you guys don't need to futz with pipeline stuff since it's just you two.
1453
1454[13-Mar-19 11:59 AM] Accujack#4515
1455@Bear Mother Probably just wooden pipe sections
1456
1457[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
1458i've been playing df since the 2d days, I don't have any idea how many hours I've put in ?
1459
1460[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1461Let the magma flow...
1462
1463[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Sethatos#1607
1464I'm glad I put in most of my time before steam will start tracking it.... yikes. ?
1465
1466[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1467DF is still 2D
1468
1469[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1470?
1471
1472[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Bear Mother#0880
1473I mean it would keep me up at night to consider local-only backups of the development build of DF but at the same time there's probably quite a few drives housing all the good stuff just in case.
1474
1475[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1476it is just tileset
1477
1478[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
1479it used to be more 2d
1480
1481[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1482You've been around longer than I have. I think SDL was a short while after I started playing.
1483
1484[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] G3Kappa#4580
1485Well it used to not have z-levels
1486
1487[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Accujack#4515
1488@Sethatos Well, if you're honest, you're probably going to have many, many more hours anyway
1489
1490[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1491(if you!re not talking about stonesense)
1492
1493[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] Extricated#9348
1494I'm just hoping to god I have cash when it launches, my current job is tentative to say the least so I might have to wait for a fair while
1495
1496[13-Mar-19 12:00 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1497@Tarn want to take this opportunity to thank you for everything so far. Df is the most interesting thing in gaming IMHO, at least as a SW Dev myself
1498
1499[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Sethatos#1607
1500Haha probably.
1501
1502[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1503oh!
1504
1505[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Tarn#6100
1506@Bear Mother I've already got the Steam pipeline figured out (uploaded a test version and installed it etc.), so the technical part is pretty straightforward, and I hear itch is really friendly that way too.  Not sure if that's what you mean by living, ha ha ha
1507
1508[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1509DF is more of a phenomenon at this point. You've got games, and then you've got this "crazy story generator" that just happens to be fun to play as well.
1510
1511[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1512Will we get previews of the new seasonal music any time soon, @Tarn or @ThreeToe?
1513
1514{Reactions}
1515? (5) 
1516
1517[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Lukaus#6236
1518DF is 100% the best game ever made, I can't wait to force my friends to play it
1519
1520[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1521I am at DF since minecraft started and it mentioned DF as source of inspiration
1522
1523[13-Mar-19 12:01 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
1524I’m loving all the love on this channel
1525
1526[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1527DF is an inspiration for most games ?
1528
1529{Reactions}
1530? 
1531
1532[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Extricated#9348
1533@Tarn If you need beta testers for it I'm all ears, the sooner I can track my time the better ?
1534
1535[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1536Ooh.. will the audio be like StoneSense, reacting to ingame events, or will it just be seasonal music?
1537
1538[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] UristDoomhammer#0001
1539@TheMightyWashburn What's SW ?
1540
1541[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1542Is kitfox your Dev studio now?
1543
1544[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1545you can't force your friends to play DF. I tried, I failed
1546
1547[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Mala#7349
1548@Dekker3D *soundsense
1549
1550[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1551So much typing!
1552
1553[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1554@UristDoomhammer software
1555
1556[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1557@Asin (Birthday next month) yes!  New music and sound are really cool and fit with the mood of the game
1558
1559[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] UristDoomhammer#0001
1560Oh thanks ?
1561
1562[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1563@PetrGasparik check the FAQ
1564
1565[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Cruxador#9109
1566@TheMightyWashburn It's their publishing company
1567
1568[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1569I got a response!
1570
1571[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Majickthise#9497
1572@Untrustedlife there's so much to love here.  I'm so glad to see DF getting out there like this.
1573
1574[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1575@Cruxador ty
1576
1577[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] slugg#6482
1578lets go
1579
1580[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Jasper#2288
1581Hello! How much will the game cost on steam
1582
1583[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
1584@TheMightyWashburn kitfox is the publisher
1585
1586[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Lukaus#6236
1587@PetrGasparik ? I'm hoping it being on steam will help convince them
1588
1589[13-Mar-19 12:02 PM] Adnor#1739
1590Woo! \o/
1591
1592[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Cruxador#9109
1593@Jasper $20
1594
1595[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
159619.99 @Jasper
1597
1598[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Lexicon#2409
1599$20 @Jasper
1600
1601[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1602@Untrustedlife do they have any control?
1603
1604[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1605but it is so much fun to tell them what's hidden behind one tiny ASCII character
1606
1607[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
1608@Lukaus maybe:)
1609
1610[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Jasper#2288
1611Geez that’s quite a lot, will they do anything to the UI?
1612
1613[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] slugg#6482
1614I'm guessing there's not a ballpark for when it might be released?
1615
1616[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1617For those yelling "20 USD", its "20 <whatever currency you use>"
1618
1619[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Major Tom#3438
1620@Tarn can you hint on what youll be talking about on gdc?
1621
1622[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
1623I asked earlier they said they won’t force the bay 12 brothers to do anything specific
1624
1625[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1626Whoops, yes, I meant SoundSense.
1627
1628[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
1629@TheMightyWashburn
1630
1631[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1632Steam version will also have option for ASCII
1633
1634[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Tarn#6100
1635Hi @Captain_Duck  !!!!  Yeah, with therapist, that tied in with our desire to drop VPL entirely, which is a large project.  We're thinking on accessibility stuff for the first steam release, and touching upon that is either in or out, lots of gnarly stuff to choose from...
1636
1637[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Destragon#8720
1638@ThreeToe just joined so not sure if it was asked already, but new tales foretold, when? ?
1639
1640[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
1641don't forget to read the pinned faq!
1642
1643[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] DwarfWitchAlexis#7132
1644@Tarn I'm extremely sorry to hear about your family, and I wish the best with this project bringing money.
1645
1646I must say I'm very old guard nervous about this as it opens up the ability for external influence.  
1647Main concern for me is update lengths now but influence is another.  GL
1648
1649[13-Mar-19 12:03 PM] Cruxador#9109
1650@TheMightyWashburn No, they just have UI stuff. Read the pin
1651
1652[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Accujack#4515
1653@mr_seeker Well, just not coins.  Those aren't used for anything.
1654
1655[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] ragundo#4146
1656Please, Add to the FAQ what will happen with all the tools availible today for DF. Not only  tilesets
1657
1658[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Majickthise#9497
1659@Jasper I'm interested in UI hooks too.  Being able to MOD for interface and usability would be amazing.
1660
1661[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] ( RNGstrategist ) | Twitch#8312
1662YEEEESSSS!!!!
1663
1664[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] ( RNGstrategist ) | Twitch#8312
1665I HAVE BEEN WAITING
1666
1667[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1668@ragundo Probably nothing, as it's still the same game as the classic version.
1669
1670[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] valyri#1104
1671just learned the news n im excited as FRICK
1672
1673[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
1674the faq says: "After the villains update is out and stable, Tarn and Meph will work on the Steam Workshop pipeline to make sure anyone who wants to can easily bring over their mods, if they want to."
1675
1676[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Accujack#4515
1677@Majickthise Me, too
1678
1679{Reactions}
1680? 
1681
1682[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1683@Accujack steam likes to do 1 USD = 1 EUR ?
1684
1685[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Jasper#2288
1686This is cool
1687
1688[13-Mar-19 12:04 PM] Jasper#2288
1689Don’t ruin it
1690
1691[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1692What's vpl?
1693
1694[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Accujack#4515
1695@mr_seeker Sounds like a great opportunity for currency arbitrage
1696
1697[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Bear Mother#0880
1698Ah @Tarn I just come from the Azure background we have to fight nonstop to get code running on various servers and VMs and environments, that's all I meant. I suppose DF doesn't need much work to get going in Steam once you have your finished application ready to load.
1699
1700[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Kn0ss0s#7895
1701What is `VPL`?
1702
1703[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] valyri#1104
1704@mr_seeker hey at least the EUR USD conversion rate has like melted in the last year
1705
1706[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Idle309#3365
1707Sadly that's not the case for the CND @mr_seeker
1708
1709[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Lonjil#0666
1710Semi-df related question: does anyone know where the bay12forums rules list is? I can't find it.
1711
1712[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Tarn#6100
1713@Zorbeltuss It wouldn't be hard to upload a 32, however, I'm not sure how easy it is to set up the branches there.  We're going to have one for the ASCII version, and we'll know then what else we can figure out.  Not sure how many people play the 32?  I know a few people still download it.
1714
1715[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
1716@Tarn thanks for anwsering that. That will prolly take a while
1717
1718[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] lsavage#7262
1719Will there be a way to get the new tileset in the classic version? If not, is this mac compatible?
1720
1721[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1722I'm curious
1723@Tarn, what is your estimate on your progress on the Villain Arc update?
1724
1725[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1726@Tarn 32-bit version?
1727
1728[13-Mar-19 12:05 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1729@Destragon I'm glad to get feedback for my stories.  I live for the attention.  Taking time to finish the next installment of Tales Foretold.  The plan is to pack it in as a optional setting for the magic release
1730
1731[13-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Sethatos#1607
1732@Tanya_KitfoxGames Besides tileset and music how will Kitfox get Dwarf Fortress to a new audience? I'm really interested in what the new marketing for this game will look like.
1733
1734[13-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Cruxador#9109
1735@lsavage It should maintain all compatibility of the base game
1736
1737[13-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Jasper#2288
1738Will the ascii version on steam be any diff from the normal game?
1739
1740[13-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Dekker3D#7386
174132 bit version probably takes a bit less space due to smaller pointers.. and I guess some people still use 32-bit OSes?
1742
1743[13-Mar-19 12:06 PM] Jasper#2288
1744Or will it be cleaned up?
1745
1746[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1747Only with new graphics and music and a couple improvements
1748
1749[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Destragon#8720
1750@ThreeToe bundled with the game as a potential setting? That's really interesting to hear
1751
1752[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1753Both will be the same game, @Jasper, the Steam version just comes with tiles and audio packs.
1754
1755[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Cruxador#9109
1756@Sethatos Putting it on Steam already opens up a whole new audience. The game doesn't suffer from lack of recognition.
1757
1758[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Bear Mother#0880
1759Man I'm kind of starstruck here watching these guys chat away. Like goddamn the ideas laid down for procedural design in DF will influence games for years to come. I quite liked Procedural Generation in Game Design, which Tarn and Tayna edited.
1760
1761[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1762@Jasper Steam will have every version we release on our site
1763
1764[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
1765@Tarn will supporting the free version and the steam version so you down? What will you do if, in 10 years, you can't find any artists to keep the steam version up to date?
1766
1767[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Zakar#2479
1768@Cruxador It also opens to a lot of responsibility to the consumers. Also @Tarn  Why not GOG too?
1769
1770[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1771@Dekker3D do you have a raspberry pi? That's 32-bit
1772
1773[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1774Artists won't go extinct in 10 years :P
1775
1776[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
1777@Sethatos various! Steam by itself does provide a huge boost, but we'll also be working directly with lots of journalists, content creators, and even showing it at PAX sometimes, for example
1778
1779[13-Mar-19 12:07 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1780But.. what kind of masochist would play DF on a Raspberry Pi? I thought that was a joke, earlier.
1781
1782[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] IslaWoof#2222
1783@FantasticFwoosh whoops sorry about that! Our filter has filtered way too much, I've removed the token and you can ask your question again, my bad! :meowpats:
1784
1785[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Cruxador#9109
1786It might also be a good idea for Kitfox to do some official video tutorials, like Illwinter did for Dominions 5.
1787
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1790
1791[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] valyri#1104
1792I’m not here to ask any questions @ThreeToe @Tarn just wanna say LOVE YALL you’re doing amazing work for an amazing game n’ best of luck making everything with DF go perfectly to plan!!!
1793
1794[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] cuffy#8115
1795@Tarn will there be any changes to how FoTF posts are done in the future because of the release to steam?
1796
1797[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1798@Dekker3D I am still waiting for a multiplayer version of DF that runs on SSH ?
1799
1800[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Accujack#4515
1801@Dekker3D Me!  Might only be a 10 population cap, but I could do it
1802
1803[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Jasper#2288
1804Thank you, and is DF going to be in constant “early access mode”? Hahhaha
1805
1806[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] G3Kappa#4580
1807Steam achievements would be interesting. IIRC there was a DFHack module that kinda implemented achievements, so the idea doesn't seem too far fetched. Of course, if the steam version doesn't come bundled with DFHack, that's going to be harder. Is anything of the sort on the roadmap or within the realm of viability?
1808
1809[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Tarn#6100
1810@Ljósapaldr ha ha, if you've read the Patreon post, you would know we haven't discovered those secrets sadly...  but we're still hoping for necromancer takeovers...  for villain release even...
1811
1812[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Sethatos#1607
1813@Tanya_KitfoxGames Thanks, that's exciting. All the best!
1814
1815{Reactions}
1816FoxLove 
1817
1818[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1819Edit: Steam will have every latest version
1820
1821[13-Mar-19 12:08 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1822I run 100 on a fairly beefy CPU. 10 on a Pi still seems high.
1823
1824[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1825If someone's interested in modding for multiplayer, please ping me... I'm off right now.
1826
1827[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1828@G3Kappa SoundSense had achievements, yeah.. that's a DFHack module. I always turned them off as the notifications would steal focus from the game so the game would stop responding to my keys.
1829
1830[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1831I don't think DF can be modded for multiplayer
1832
1833[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] sapper#4462
1834@Tarn will there be an API to ease the development of external 3rd party tools?
1835
1836[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Bear Mother#0880
1837If there's some type of observer/observable pattern to DF messages it shouldn't be too hard to hook in steam achievements the way Stonesense did it.
1838
1839[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
1840heh, multiplayer DF on steam network, that'd be something to see.
1841
1842[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1843Multiplayer in DF seems downright impossible.
1844
1845[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] ThreeToe#2757
1846Edit 2: OSX and Linux are possibly coming later
1847
1848[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1849@Asin (Birthday next month) you forgot the word "yet"
1850
1851[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] Teneb#8323
1852@Asin (Birthday next month) There was a multiplayer mod, sort of
1853
1854[13-Mar-19 12:09 PM] pineapple#6455
1855@ThreeToe @Tarn I heard about the news a short while ago and wanted to say that I love the work you do and I hope that this release helps you to stay in a good financial position. I am very much looking forward to a more accessible Dwarf Fortress, though I'm not sure that personally I'll ever be able to play without ansi graphics
1856
1857[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Accujack#4515
1858@Dekker3D A pi isn't that much slower than a medium clock 32 bit x86 for small numbers of dwarves.  Depends on world size and complexity, too
1859
1860[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Jasper#2288
1861Hi, what is to stop somebody from taking the graphics of the steam edition and making them a tile set for the original DF edition?
1862
1863[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Extricated#9348
1864Am I right in thinking non-steam saves will be compatible with the steam version?
1865
1866[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] paulbobrookins#4973
1867Dwarf Fortress MMO. lol
1868
1869[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Accujack#4515
1870@Dekker3D Also Embark size
1871
1872[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1873Embark size does help, I guess.
1874
1875[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Cruxador#9109
1876@Jasper Ethics and also copyright law
1877
1878[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Tarn#6100
1879@Cruxador Changing tilesets in game doesn't strike me as super hard, and would be very useful for the artists as they work, so it might happen for that reason alone.  At the same time, it could be there's some irritating tech problem etc., so we'll have to see!
1880
1881[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Dekker3D#7386
1882@Jasper Honour, probably.
1883
1884[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Enemy post#7314
1885Wow, I would never have thought I'd see Dwarf Fortress on Steam. Will there still be mods?
1886
1887[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Jasper#2288
1888And in that case, will tilesets be any different for the steam edition?
1889
1890[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] newveeplus#3297
1891mods if people add them!
1892
1893[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1894@Enemy post
1895Yeah
1896
1897[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Mala#7349
1898Steam workshop!
1899
1900[13-Mar-19 12:10 PM] Tarn#6100
1901Ha ha ha, my mom is lurking in here!
1902
1903{Reactions}
1904❤ (8) ♥ (5) 
1905
1906[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] boggy#8204
1907holy
1908
1909[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Teneb#8323
1910@Tarn @ThreeToe since graphics appear to be the main theme of the retail release, will there be any changes in how creature tiles interact with castes (which is to say, they don't at all currently)?
1911
1912[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Major Tom#3438
1913Hello Tarn's mom!
1914
1915[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] clinodev#7030
1916Hi Adams mom!
1917
1918[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] paulbobrookins#4973
1919Hi mom, everyone loves this game
1920
1921[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1922It might work, if you let DF do the math...
1923
1924[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Ljósapaldr#2129
1925Tarnmomma <3
1926
1927[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
1928everyone say hi to Tarns mom!!!
1929
1930[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
1931❤
1932
1933[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Enemy post#7314
1934Hi Tarn's Mom!
1935
1936[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1937We have a Momma Toady
1938
1939[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
1940best behaviour ok
1941
1942[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Adnor#1739
1943Hi!
1944
1945[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1946Someone's having fun it seems ?
1947
1948[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] YetiFiasco#9722
1949Hi Tarns mom!
1950
1951[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1952Greetings, Tarn's Mom!
1953
1954[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Gremblo Art Show#1086
1955hi!
1956
1957[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Systech#3546
1958Hi Tarn's Mom!
1959
1960[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] clinodev#7030
1961We love your boys too!
1962
1963[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Jasper#2288
1964Well, you guys are soon to be rich, twenty dollars for such a good game already with a big community
1965
1966[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] mr_seeker#3552
1967Hi Tarn's Mom!
1968
1969[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Fen#5319
1970Hullo Tarn’s Mom!
1971
1972[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Jasper#2288
1973Hi tarns mom
1974
1975[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] The_Scoundrel_M#4896
1976Hello Tarn’s Mum.
1977
1978[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
1979Your boys are gods amongst developers
1980
1981[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] Majickthise#9497
1982Your son made an amazing game we all love.
1983
1984[13-Mar-19 12:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
1985this is melting my heart
1986
1987{Reactions}
1988❤ 
1989
1990[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Mayday#1280
1991Hello all!
1992
1993{Reactions}
1994FoxLove (6) 
1995
1996[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Majickthise#9497
1997sons
1998
1999[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] drphil_btc-echo#2106
2000Hi Tarns Mum!
2001
2002[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
2003@Tarn will you add larger creature tiles to support better art for this release?
2004
2005[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2006*incoherent screaming*
2007
2008[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2009hey @Mayday!
2010
2011[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Teneb#8323
2012Also hi to Tarn's mum
2013
2014[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2015Oh mayday's here
2016
2017[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] burneddi#8888
2018https://dfhack.readthedocs.io/en/stable/docs/Plugins.html#manipulator please integrate a labor manager UI like this into the game for the Steam release, labor management is probably the #1 thing that makes new players die
2019
2020[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Mala#7349
2021@Mayday how hard was it keeping mum?
2022
2023[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] IslaWoof#2222
2024:ameowowoevil:
2025
2026[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2027@Tarn Have you ever written what your best adventure was from DF? I seem to recall reading an interview that suggested Fortress mode was not your thing compared to having a grand adventure.
2028
2029[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Mayday#1280
2030I can honestly say I have neglected my job of keeping mum 100%
2031
2032[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2033guessing difficult from what i've seen lol
2034
2035[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] boggy#8204
2036it's a big honor to be in there
2037
2038[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] Mayday#1280
2039Oh wait
2040
2041[13-Mar-19 12:12 PM] clinodev#7030
2042Hey @Mayday Cheers for vouching for Meph on reddit! ?
2043
2044[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] shaggy#1396
2045Imagine being so cool your mom gets discord
2046
2047[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2048@@Mayday, a fellow here by the name of @Teneb told me you made one of the major tilesets back in the day!
2049
2050{Reactions}
2051? 
2052
2053[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Mayday#1280
2054I thought you meant Tarn's mum!
2055
2056[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Teneb#8323
2057*old man grumble*
2058
2059[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Majickthise#9497
2060@Mayday ! Been using your tilesets forever! Glad to see you getting in on this!
2061
2062[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2063yes mayday is good people
2064
2065[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Major Tom#3438
2066@Tarn @ThreeToe any plans on paid dlc's some time later? Not meaning  something critical like gameplay features but maybe new music packs/graphic packs/exclusive dorf hats/etc.? (only for the sake of supporting you ofc)
2067
2068[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Luke#8284
2069Hi Tarn and Zach!  Congrats on your growing empire, hope to see ya'll again some day.
2070
2071[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2072Hang on, you're *the* Mayday?
2073
2074[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] clinodev#7030
2075The Mayday.
2076
2077[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2078WOOOO
2079
2080[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Burning Man#2906
2081I love you, you sweet, sweet toad. 
2082Godspeed
2083
2084[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Mayday#1280
2085@clinodev  hehe ? I have to confirm, he was in on it, all along!
2086
2087[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Luke#8284
2088Hi Tarn and Zach's mum, you've got great sons!
2089
2090[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2091DLC mods could be interesting... like official, well-maintained mods for a small price.
2092
2093{Reactions}
2094? (4) 
2095
2096[13-Mar-19 12:13 PM] Mayday#1280
2097@Bear Mother  : define "the"
2098
2099[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2100As in the man who invented the tileset that made DF accessible to a bunch of folks
2101
2102[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Theoria#1842
2103Hello Tarn and DF fans, I'm super excited to hear about the upcoming release
2104
2105[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] clinodev#7030
2106@Mayday Welcome to reddit! (He says on Discord.)
2107
2108[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Warded#3577
2109Creation Club™ Dwarf Fortress Edition?
2110
2111[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
2112Who's The MOM?
2113
2114[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] YetiFiasco#9722
2115Total conversion mods! Kobold Fortress
2116
2117[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Major Tom#3438
2118I would love to buy Meph's mod on steam
2119
2120[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Tarn#6100
2121@Kenny dunno if I'll ever get a chance to record any music for dwarf fortress classic.  Dabu's recorded about 20 new minutes of DF music and also some sound effects for the first Steam/itch release
2122
2123[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] ThreeToe#2757
2124We have no plans for DLC at this point
2125
2126{Reactions}
2127? (13) ? (4) 
2128
2129[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] paulbobrookins#4973
2130It's already the in the top 3 posts on 4 subreddits that I've seen.  I think there is going to be so many people buying it just because of the hype and reputation.
2131
2132[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] shaggy#1396
2133This game deserves my money id love high quality dlc mods
2134
2135[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] Jasper#2288
2136Are they gonna to implement the wiki somehow into the game or steam UI? That would be very useful?
2137
2138[13-Mar-19 12:14 PM] paulbobrookins#4973
2139I'm really excited for more people to play.
2140
2141[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Ljósapaldr#2129
2142How much of the new music is inspired by your amazing original tracks? @Tarn
2143
2144[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2145I imagine DLC mods would be like ThreeToe's stories' settings put into the game if DLC existed
2146
2147[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Jasper#2288
2148Don’t do dlc
2149
2150{Reactions}
2151? 
2152
2153[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Teneb#8323
2154Frankly, even if there was no graphical additions the Steam release would be worth it for the Steam Workshop integration alone.
2155
2156[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Systech#3546
2157@Tarn  Can you please say hi to my best friend Georgy Krasnoselskih? He is a big fan of Dwarf Fortress, and I'm sure, he will be **very** happy
2158
2159[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Theoria#1842
2160Original guitar loop or bust
2161
2162[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Enemy post#7314
2163Will it be possible to play the Steam version in ASCII?
2164
2165[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
2166@Teneb the released photo's of DF retail/steam do show the dwarves in great detail of identifying individual beard colors, i've yet to sift through to find a answer to your question though on male/female, though if they all boast beards it'll be immersive.
2167
2168[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2169Someone reacted with a ? to my suggestion, but paid DLC mods would fit with the theme of the base game being available to anyone, and extra content that anyone could make, being available in official, maintained form.
2170
2171{Reactions}
2172? (4) 
2173
2174[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Major Tom#3438
2175@Enemy post yes
2176
2177[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] G3Kappa#4580
2178@Enemy post  yep under a beta branch
2179
2180[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Teneb#8323
2181@Enemy post Oh hello there mate
2182
2183[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Cruxador#9109
2184Not sure who to direct this to, but probably @Tanya_KitfoxGames you should see if you can get Simon Swerwer to contribute his music.
2185
2186[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Enemy post#7314
2187Hi Teneb!
2188
2189[13-Mar-19 12:15 PM] Teneb#8323
2190@FantasticFwoosh thanks, I guess we'll need to see
2191
2192[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Luke#8284
2193I'd totally pay for special hats, trees, animals, or whatever.
2194
2195[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] boggy#8204
2196i feel like this is going to be a part of human history
2197
2198{Reactions}
2199❤ (4) ? 
2200
2201[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Jasper#2288
2202For a second I thought the announcement was a meme
2203
2204{Reactions}
2205? 
2206
2207[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Meph#6451
2208Hello ?
2209
2210[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Lukaus#6236
2211@FantasticFwoosh I think by default female dwarves don't grow beards, you gotta set them to in the raws
2212
2213[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Major Tom#3438
2214Yeah i wouldnt mind paid dlcs if its for supporting devs
2215
2216[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Major Tom#3438
2217Hi Meph!
2218
2219[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] 90908#5118
2220Oh hell yeah, Simon Swerwer did good work
2221
2222[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2223>meph
2224
2225[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Enemy post#7314
2226Hey Meph!
2227
2228[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] newveeplus#3297
2229aww everyones here ❤
2230
2231[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] 90908#5118
2232Hi Meph!
2233
2234[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Jasper#2288
2235Like the “dwarf fortress bought by EA” meme
2236
2237[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2238yeah df is big enough now that it has its own little ecosystem for developers haha
2239
2240[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Gremblo Art Show#1086
2241@Tarn Hi tarn, i've played Dwarf fortress since i was a kid and i really enjoy it. It is my all time favourite game. I read over the FAQ and saw that DF classic won't be getting music and UI upgrades or "Steam features"? I was just wondering if these would be in-game features, or just quality of life improvements.
2242
2243[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2244>*meph*
2245
2246[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Jasper#2288
2247Hi meph
2248
2249[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Meph#6451
2250Sadly EA turned us down.
2251
2252[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
2253I would maybe pay for a pass to try beta builds of new releases
2254
2255[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
2256*maybe*
2257
2258[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Sethatos#1607
2259@Meph I think you dodged a bullet then....
2260
2261[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Teneb#8323
2262Didn't way back in the day EA or some other big AAA publisher try to buy Dwarf Fortress?
2263
2264[13-Mar-19 12:16 PM] Majickthise#9497
2265@Meph ! Hey!  This is so cool to see community modders pulled in!
2266
2267[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Meph#6451
2268Yes indeed. It was quite a surprise.
2269
2270[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Jasper#2288
2271You mean play the game already? @FantasticFwoosh hahahah
2272
2273[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] sapper#4462
2274wish Ironhand was here
2275
2276[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Enemy post#7314
2277Heeey, anyone got 500 dinosaur drawings they could part with? I need them for a thing.
2278
2279[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Meph#6451
2280A bit weird working on two tilesets at once, without telling anyone about the second. ^^
2281
2282[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2283https://discord.gg/XUmWU4p
2284The DF modding server
2285
2286{Reactions}
2287? 
2288
2289[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] eniteris#5614
2290I'm guessing the name has officially changed from Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, Chapter II: Dwarf Fortress? (I do like the original name)
2291
2292[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
2293@Meph you trickster.
2294
2295[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Tarn#6100
2296@TheMightyWashburn I'm not worried about the paying customers taking control of the project - we've been working on this for many years and have things that we want to do, and will do, no matter how we're releasing it.  And patrons are paying too, and they haven't been a problem at all.
2297
2298[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Teneb#8323
2299shameless plug, @Asin (Birthday next month) for shame
2300
2301[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Jasper#2288
2302Woah meph made the new one?
2303
2304[13-Mar-19 12:17 PM] Cruxador#9109
2305@Gremblo Art Show Workshop integration, maybe achievements or whatever
2306
2307[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2308Sorry,  @Teneb!
2309
2310[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Theoria#1842
2311I love how the new tileset is looking, great job on the sidebar especially
2312
2313[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Meph#6451
2314Mike Mayday and me are working on the graphics.
2315
2316[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] jsch#3749
2317Open source still on the (very far future) roadmap?
2318
2319[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Mayday#1280
2320Oh man, this channel moves fast >_<
2321
2322[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2323They've been able to live off donations from DF for quite a while already, afaik.. they've basically got a captivated and generous audience.
2324
2325[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Teneb#8323
2326@Asin (Birthday next month) /sarcasm
2327
2328[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Meph#6451
2329He is the graphic designer, I just push pixels here and there. ?
2330
2331[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] slugg#6482
2332Does the bug where all player characters in adventure mode have extremely long hair still exist?
2333
2334[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] G3Kappa#4580
2335@Meph They look great! I've never seen slopes done like that
2336
2337[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2338Oh
2339
2340[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2341Yeah @Mayday I'm going to go ahead and guess you're the guy who did do the tileset. I have to say you really deserve a big up a lot of folks get sidelined by the ASCII graphics.
2342
2343[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Mala#7349
2344@Jasper new tiles were made by meph and mayday
2345
2346[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2347the new tileset looks fantastic, it should help a lot of new people to tell what is going on
2348
2349[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Theoria#1842
2350You're a legend Mayday
2351
2352[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
2353@Tarn somehow you just saying that makes my concern evaporate. Thanks. I'll be getting it in steam and keeping my Parton payments going
2354
2355[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2356Huh.. open-source DF was a plan? Never heard of that one.
2357
2358[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] sapper#4462
2359@slugg no barbershops yet
2360
2361[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] Meph#6451
2362I just realize now that my discord avatar isn't my Meph avatar from Bay12. I swear, it's me folks!
2363
2364[13-Mar-19 12:18 PM] slugg#6482
2365fair
2366
2367[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Mayday#1280
2368@Bear Mother  That's me, but once again, I did not actually create all that many sprites from that tileset
2369
2370[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Mala#7349
2371@newveeplus meph and mayday need dev roles!
2372
2373[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Teneb#8323
2374@Dekker3D I think open sorce is just in case of tragedy
2375
2376[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Jasper#2288
2377Nice, I’m still gonna use ascii, hopefully we can edit colors.txt
2378
2379[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2380Ah.
2381
2382[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] newveeplus#3297
2383fair enough
2384
2385[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Major Tom#3438
2386@Meph will you continue working on masterwork or youre 100% focused on texture pack?
2387
2388[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Warded#3577
2389Yeah I'm honestly excited for the new tileset, it actually looks VERY dwarf fortress even though I've been with Spacefox for forever
2390
2391[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Symbiode#8610
2392I'm just here to give my support for this announcement, and mention that the thing that got me most excited was the mention of @Mayday.
2393
2394[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Mayday#1280
2395@Bear Mother  I've learned a lot about illustration and pixelart since those days, so with Meph's awesome support, I can actually provide some ok original content ?
2396
2397[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Cruxador#9109
2398@Teneb Tragedy or completion. Very far future.
2399
2400[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Cernantis#4993
2401Are there plans for overhaul Steam version with interface in vain of Rimworld? It takes hours to make anything done with current one.
2402
2403[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
2404Squeeeeeeee
2405
2406[13-Mar-19 12:19 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2407Man it's all good if you had handcrafted the sprites too I would have been mad you didn't take in money for the stuff.
2408
2409[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Meph#6451
2410I stopped working on Masterwork because of this premium DF. But it will return, in full graphical glory, in the Steam Workshop. ?
2411
2412{Reactions}
2413? (4) 
2414
2415[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] jsch#3749
2416Oh, then never mind. ?
2417
2418[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] hioiiiiiiiiiiii#6973
2419For me, it's Taffer's.
2420
2421[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Major Tom#3438
2422Thats so nice to hear!
2423
2424[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Meph#6451
2425Thanks Tanya!
2426
2427[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2428Must've been tricky sitting on that and not being able to tell?
2429
2430[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
2431Yeah, really hoping there are some interface tweaks
2432
2433[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
2434re: GOG -- we're still deciding with Bay 12 how to handle it. for now we'd like to focus on Steam and Itch, which have worked the best for past Kitfox games.
2435
2436[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Teneb#8323
2437RE: UI; I am pretty sure I saw at least a remodeled interface in the Steam page screenshots
2438
2439[13-Mar-19 12:20 PM] Enemy post#7314
2440I didn't have any trouble keeping the secret. I wasn't involved at all, which made it very easy.
2441
2442[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Enemy post#7314
2443I also didn't know about it.
2444
2445[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Enemy post#7314
2446Even easier.
2447
2448[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] newveeplus#3297
2449@Enemy post ?
2450
2451[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Warded#3577
2452The interface in the steam screenshots looks improved already. Even if the functionality is still the same is really pretty now
2453
2454[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Mayday#1280
2455@Dekker3D  yes, it was quite a happy announcement to keep silent about
2456
2457[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Tarn#6100
2458Thanks @TheMightyWashburn !  I'm glad you're enjoying the game
2459
2460[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] PetrGasparik#0164
2461@Tanya_KitfoxGames and Discord Store?
2462
2463[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Jasper#2288
2464Df will blow up on steam hopefully
2465
2466[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
2467same
2468
2469[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] paulbobrookins#4973
2470I think it was mentioned that UI is getting revamped after the villains release and any bug fixes from that.  I'm not sure if that is accurate though
2471
2472[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Tubles#1981
2473https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/975370/ss_8d7801a0572c841f9aa042b54510298e7856e83b.1920x1080.jpg?t=1552488361 hotlink to an interface example
2474
2475[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Meph#6451
2476Thanks @Warded  ?
2477
2478[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] burneddi#8888
2479will DF be on the Epic Games store?
2480
2481[13-Mar-19 12:21 PM] Sethatos#1607
2482Is the UI going to be streamlined for the Steam version?
2483
2484[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2485But yeah tileset people, quality of life people, and bug-fixing people create an invaluable network of support for our DF guys and they deserve a heavy amount of credit for helping get the game in hands and enjoyed by others.
2486
2487[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Enemy post#7314
2488I'm really excited about being a Steam Workshop modder. I can finally be cool!
2489
2490[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2491@Tarn how's the modding workshop going to work? is it going to be compatible with current RAW mods?
2492
2493[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] G3Kappa#4580
2494that magma is so juicy
2495
2496[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] slugg#6482
2497Damn thats a slick tileset
2498
2499[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
2500By interface I mean the menu/order structure (e.g. 6 different places to do something, all with different hotkeys)
2501
2502[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
2503focusing on Steam and itch.io for now
2504
2505[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Major Tom#3438
2506Df is actually blowing up steam even now, community forum is booming with activity
2507
2508[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] slugg#6482
2509the interface integration is wonderful too
2510
2511[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Extricated#9348
2512wow i can't believe this means dwarf fortress is finally launching on switch
2513
2514{Reactions}
2515? 
2516
2517[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] yotsuya#5328
2518@Sethatos the UI looks pretty nice in the screenshots though it isn't fundamentally different
2519
2520[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Jasper#2288
2521Nice! I’ve been playing DF a lot recently
2522
2523[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] slugg#6482
2524I'm excited to not have to fiddle with truetype fonts/TWBT in the future
2525
2526{Reactions}
2527? (2) 
2528
2529[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2530DWARF FORTRESS HELL YEAH
2531
2532[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2533I'm gonna go grab some dinner. Just want to say good luck, and I'm definitely donating some more if the villain update is as good as it seems.
2534
2535[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Enemy post#7314
2536Big day for Steam, today. They got Halo and Dwarf Fortress about the same time.
2537
2538{Reactions}
2539✅ (5) obedience (2) ? 
2540
2541[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Meph#6451
2542I'll be the mod-support guy btw.
2543
2544{Reactions}
2545FoxLove (2) 
2546
2547[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] sapper#4462
2548hopefully the UI will be improved, especially the military screen and general animal management
2549
2550[13-Mar-19 12:22 PM] Meph#6451
2551Hope that doesn't surprise anyone.
2552
2553[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2554@Jasper same, I stopped for awhile but recently I became much more active
2555
2556[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] 90908#5118
2557Speaking of TWBT, is there any plans to integrate TWBT features like multi-level views into the steam release?
2558
2559[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Tarn#6100
2560@Dekker3D we have one reactive track so far (based on death rate, ha ha), and some sound for big announcements, but it'll be sparse sound at first
2561
2562[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2563@Meph hoe have things been. It’s been awhile
2564
2565[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Meph#6451
2566So once the game is released, I'll help as best as I can so that modders can port their projects to the Steam Workshop. It will still be raw modding in the end.
2567
2568[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2569Multi-level views would help a lot.
2570
2571[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2572i honestly miss the old military screen, of course we have a lot more control now but man that was a big one to wrap my head around
2573
2574[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Jasper#2288
2575Congrats meph
2576
2577[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] G3Kappa#4580
2578Yeah TWBT should be included by default imo
2579
2580[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2581Alright, thanks Tarn. Still good to know!
2582
2583[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] G3Kappa#4580
2584it's just one of those mods
2585
2586[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Enemy post#7314
2587How will you have time to do that while I'm forcing you to make tilesets for my stuff?
2588
2589[13-Mar-19 12:23 PM] Meph#6451
2590Hey @Untrustedlife  ? Yeah, I've been busy with pixels. ?
2591
2592[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Teneb#8323
2593@Meph Do you know if there will be some sort of mod-control menu of sorts? Things will get very messy otherwise
2594
2595[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Major Tom#3438
2596Is steam dwarf fortress graphics different from classic version? Or its the same tile mechanics?
2597
2598[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Tubles#1981
2599Will the new tracks be in keeping with your classical guitar sound, Tarn (or whoever can answer)?
2600
2601[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Mala#7349
2602@Meph do you think DFHack will be able to go onto the workshop?
2603
2604[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Jasper#2288
2605This will be good though in the long run, more money = more support for updates aka time
2606
2607[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Major Tom#3438
2608Cause steam dwarf fortress graphics look a bit different than any tileset
2609
2610[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2611I’m the guy who made that mod that added cults awhile back when you asked a bunch of modders if you could add our stuff to masterwork or some such.
2612
2613[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Haven#0107
2614its been years since i've played DF but i'm willing to relearn cause this is exciting ?
2615
2616[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Dekker3D#7386
2617TWBT makes the game far more playable, yes. I loved the improved work orders, they made WorkFlow less necessary.. and multi-level views would do the same to TWBT
2618
2619[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Meph#6451
2620@Teneb Dont know yet.
2621
2622[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] ThreeToe#2757
2623We are working to make DF more accessible more generally.  We will be trying to get as much of that done as we can before the Steam/itch release
2624
2625[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Joseph B#7458
2626I'd imagine most external tools would just release versions that target steam as opposed to classic
2627
2628[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2629@Tanya_KitfoxGames do you provide operation support and experience to help these guys get the game to market? Or are you just being a good pal and helping facilitate their communication?
2630
2631[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2632Stupid autocorrect
2633
2634[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Warded#3577
2635I'm so biased to this game that I'm honestly curious to read what people don't like about it in steam negative reviews (apart from interface). I can't be the only one ?
2636
2637[13-Mar-19 12:24 PM] Meph#6451
2638@Mala I'd assume dfhack will be made for steam DF, I see no reason not to.
2639
2640[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Idle309#3365
2641Will glass floors show things below them happening?
2642
2643[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Teneb#8323
2644@Meph Fair enough. Just worried about RAW duping.
2645
2646[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2647I know Kitfox is your baby but you folks did write a book together.
2648
2649[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Tarn#6100
2650@Major Tom I'm not doing a GDC talk this year!  Mostly...  it'll probably be like this chatroom, ha ha.  And chatting with procgen/systems people.
2651
2652[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2653I’m the guy who made that mod that added cults awhile back when you asked a bunch of modders if you could add our stuff to masterwork or some such. @Meph
2654
2655[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2656I'm just a modder who keeps adding in races (44 new races so far) and is fond of complicated lore
2657
2658[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Meph#6451
2659So yeah, in general I'll be collecting mod-support like suggestions and pester poor Tarn about adding things to the raws.
2660
2661{Reactions}
2662❤ (2) 
2663
2664[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2665On the forums
2666
2667[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Jasper#2288
2668@ThreeToe >make it more accessible before release
2669
2670[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2671It was like 3 years ago lol
2672
2673[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Meph#6451
2674Transparency if working, so glass can be see-through.
2675
2676[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Gralzeim#3448
2677Does 'more accessible generally' potentially mean an in-game tutorial?
2678
2679[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Jasper#2288
2680ETA couple years??
2681
2682[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] Qvatch#0476
2683Congratulations guys
2684
2685[13-Mar-19 12:25 PM] The Sergeant#7427
2686I'm honestly surprised that this is a thing.
2687
2688[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] The Sergeant#7427
2689Congrats but wow.
2690
2691[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Jasper#2288
2692:^)
2693
2694[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Michel#2110
2695Ok but the question everyone wants answered: Will there be a new game mode where 100 dwarves parachute onto a landmass and a circle slowly shrinks until there's just one survivor
2696
2697{Reactions}
2698? (5) 
2699
2700[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] The Sergeant#7427
2701Is it gonna be, like, an official version or is it still in Super Ultra Pre-Alpha?
2702
2703[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Meph#6451
2704@Untrustedlife of course I know who you are
2705
2706[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Major Tom#3438
2707@Tarn i see! Thanks for the answer! Its 50/50 situation, im glad that youll get some rest not preparing any speeches but on the other hand youre always entertaining to listen to!
2708
2709[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2710@Tarn do you have a book you like for procedure generation theory? I'm all good if it's real crunchy but there has to be some resource out there you love.
2711
2712[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Jasper#2288
2713Yeah this is awesome news
2714
2715[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] newveeplus#3297
2716I'm honestly surprised we had no huge leaks about this haha ?
2717
2718[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
2719advising on some basics, like trailer stuff, steam page text etc, and when it comes out we'll be doing community support/customer service etc, but... the design and content and upgrades to df is up to tarn and zach ? first they gotta finish the villains update anyway, before they even start on the steam stuff
2720
2721{Reactions}
2722FoxLove 
2723
2724[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2725@Michel
2726Cease!
2727
2728[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2729I kid
2730
2731[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
2732@Meph are there any plans for creatures taking up more than one square. Forgotten beasts that are the same size as a mouse are sort of immersion breaking
2733
2734[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2735I was surprised too but seeing that the publisher is kitfox games my worries were quickly evaporated
2736
2737{Reactions}
2738FoxLove (6) DF_Logo_White (4) 
2739
2740[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2741@Meph is there going to be support for multiple tilesets on the steam version? if so, which?
2742
2743[13-Mar-19 12:26 PM] Mala#7349
2744@Meph Built-in way for Armok Vision to work is a pipe dream, I assume
2745
2746[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2747@TheMightyWashburn
2748That's what your imagination's for
2749
2750[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Teneb#8323
2751@Meph By the way, I've been meaning to apologize for quite some time ago dumping a buggy mess of untested playable elf raws on you
2752
2753[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Meph#6451
2754@TheMightyWashburn oh yes.
2755
2756[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] ThreeToe#2757
2757A tutorial is def something we are looking at doing
2758
2759{Reactions}
2760? (7) ? (6) ? 
2761
2762[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2763also an "FAQ" is probably a good idea with how active this is atm
2764
2765[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Tubles#1981
2766Actually though, if the game gets support for baked-in Adventurer mode scenarios, the BR scenario would be a great starting point (if amusingly off-brand)
2767
2768[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2769@Tanya_KitfoxGames that's real solid of you! I imagine it's pretty stressful handling all the launch stuff for a Steam game any time, let alone the first time.
2770
2771{Reactions}
2772FoxLove 
2773
2774[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2775@Tubles
2776BR?
2777
2778[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Meph#6451
2779@Mala Tech-questions are probably something for far later in the development. ^^
2780
2781[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
2782@Meph  praise armok
2783
2784[13-Mar-19 12:27 PM] Tubles#1981
2785Battle Royale ( @Michel's suggestion)
2786
2787[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
2788Ph
2789
2790[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Tarn#6100
2791@DwarfWitchAlexis Regarding external influence, I mean we've been at the mercy of the state of PayPal and Patreon too.  This is another chapter, and sure, things can happen.  But if our situation is a little more stable, we'll also have more control, not less.
2792
2793{Reactions}
2794⚒ (2) ? 
2795
2796[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2797i feel like even after hundreds of hours in df i'm still in tutorial mode
2798
2799[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Lukaus#6236
2800@ThatusTwatus there is one in Pinned Messages
2801
2802[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
2803ah right thanks
2804
2805[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2806Tutorial is going to be 30 hours of hard programming before you get to see an @ sign wander around a black console, but it'll be worth it ?
2807
2808{Reactions}
2809dorf (2) 
2810
2811[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Qvatch#0476
2812diversifying from patreon is a good call right now, they seem hellbent on self destruction
2813
2814{Reactions}
2815? 
2816
2817[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Enemy post#7314
2818I need to go read the FOTF, but then I might miss a few seconds of the Discord...
2819
2820[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Meph#6451
2821@ThatusTwatus well, there will be the official tileset, but since it's all just images people can replace and remap, the steam version should have the same support for tileset authors as the current version. The only difference is that it's not 256 sprites, but a lot more.
2822
2823[13-Mar-19 12:28 PM] Teneb#8323
2824@Enemy post We are not at twitch chat levels *quite* yet
2825
2826[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Madlib#0001
2827Hello!
2828
2829[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2830@Tarn likely they didn’t mean control over your financial situation, more like control over game mechanics,
2831
2832[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Mayday#1280
2833@newveeplus any leaks and you would have kicked our asses!
2834
2835{Reactions}
2836❣ 
2837
2838[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Lukaus#6236
2839chat is moving so fast no one will see i'm an elf Kappa
2840
2841{Reactions}
2842? (3) 
2843
2844[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Madlib#0001
2845I finally got here - the anticipation for the announcement shook me.
2846
2847[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Madlib#0001
2848I still have flashbacks to the DF2014 announcement.
2849
2850[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
2851@Mayday Yeah I would've cried
2852
2853[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] slugg#6482
2854are you the real madlib
2855
2856[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
2857hehehe
2858
2859[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] shitidontknow#3666
2860@Meph Will the tiles for procedurally generated monsters (FBs, were-beasts, ect) become any more interesting in the new graphics?  No insult implied, I know that's a really tough thing to do, but man it would be cool to have a lot more variety to those.
2861
2862[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Jasper#2288
2863@Tarn in what ways are you guys going to be more in control? ?
2864
2865[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Madlib#0001
2866@Tarn I'm proud of how far this game has come even though I've only jumped on the bandwagon back in 2011.
2867
2868[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] burneddi#8888
2869so the new tileset support will make projects like TWBT no longer necessary, correct?
2870
2871[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2872@Mayday what was the best part of making your tileset? What was the best lesson you felt you learned?
2873
2874[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Meph#6451
2875Personally, I think a tutorial, manual and a small pre-genned world with a basic fort already established would go a long way in introducing new players. But we made no plans so far. It's mostly graphics atm.
2876
2877{Reactions}
2878? (5) ? 
2879
2880[13-Mar-19 12:29 PM] Madlib#0001
2881Publishing the game on Steam might create a fire for the game as far as I'm aware.
2882
2883[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Meph#6451
2884@Lukaus YOU ELF!
2885
2886{Reactions}
2887? 
2888
2889[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Mayday#1280
2890@Bear Mother You mean my original one or this one?
2891
2892[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Cernantis#4993
2893So its true there will be new interface instead of old key combinations?
2894
2895[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Madlib#0001
2896If it manages to hit the top of the new releases chart - we are going to get a huge influx of players.
2897
2898[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
2899_invades_
2900
2901{Reactions}
2902⛰ 
2903
2904[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
2905@Meph that’s not a bad idea, but what about adventure mode (which I play more then fort mode)
2906
2907[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Joseph B#7458
2908Lots of escaped lunatics on Bay12
2909
2910[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Drakonis#1712
2911Will there be a UI overhaul?
2912
2913[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] newveeplus#3297
2914yesss please wishlist and help out DF ❤
2915
2916[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Bear Mother#0880
2917Any tileset you like pal, anything you say will have value
2918
2919[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Tarn#6100
2920@Bear Mother Yeah, it was actually good that I've been running out of a zip folder instead of using a custom installer.  Steam just has you point at the exe and bam it works.
2921
2922[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Madlib#0001
2923Where's the steam link? I'd love to wishlist ?
2924
2925[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Tubles#1981
2926@Cernantis Check out the steam listing for screenshots that show the UI (it's basically just a wrapper)
2927
2928[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Madlib#0001
2929Also any info about how much the game will cost?
2930
2931[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2932a pregenned fortress that then is raided by goblins and everyone is summarily executed.  the perfecr tutorial!
2933
2934[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Qvatch#0476
2935so what's happening with TWBT and this steam release? does that mean it's going to go core?
2936
2937[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] River#5930
2938$20 IIRC
2939
2940[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Tubles#1981
2941https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/
2942
2943[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Meph#6451
2944@shitidontknow Most likely Yes. It's something we have been talking about, it's certainly something we want to do.
2945
2946{Reactions}
2947?? 
2948
2949[13-Mar-19 12:30 PM] Madlib#0001
2950@Tubles Thank you!
2951
2952[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Major Tom#3438
2953Isnt it too early for a tutorial though? I imagine dwarf fortress changing a bit much with myth and magic release
2954
2955[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Madlib#0001
2956@River That's definitely a fair price.
2957
2958[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] River#5930
2959it is
2960
2961[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Meph#6451
2962Why are people asking me more questions than Tarn, Tanya or Mike?
2963
2964[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
2965bahahaha
2966
2967[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
2968Will DFHack be supported with the steam release, or will it be discouraged?
2969
2970[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Enemy post#7314
2971What does the "Visualize" button in the new UI do?\
2972
2973[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Tuxedo Catfish#1344
2974This isn't directly related to the Steam release, but since this will probably get the game in front of a larger audience (and one that will be paying for it) -- are you planning on fixing some of the long-term playability issues with Fortress mode right now? I'm thinking in particular of the way that dwarves inevitably go mad from remembering bad thoughts.
2975
2976[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
2977@Meph whats your favorite color and why
2978
2979[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Mayday#1280
2980@Bear Mother  For the first one, the lesson was: never release anything done by other people unless you're closely cooperating with them. If it ends up successful, it ends up unfair to the contributors
2981
2982[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
2983yes don't forget there's an AMA tomorrow!!! (pinned messages)
2984
2985[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Tarn#6100
2986@Knossos (ha ha I'm 25 minutes behind) VPL is looking at a dwarf and setting their labor preferences with the v-p-l keys.  Pretty notorious DF UI, like changing one column of a spreadsheet at a time
2987
2988[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] boggy#8204
2989what's ama
2990
2991[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Barskie#1272
2992@Meph  Will the official tileset be any deeper integrated compared to what is possible with current vanilla sets?
2993
2994[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
2995ask me anything
2996
2997[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Meph#6451
2998@Untrustedlife I dont know ^^
2999
3000[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] boggy#8204
3001nice
3002
3003[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Qvatch#0476
3004well, I'd ask toady and threetoe questions, but I'm used to divining intentions from FOTF and the game itself
3005
3006[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Madlib#0001
3007@Meph Is this why you've been suddenly posting developments regarding the tileset on reddit after a few months of no discussion about it?
3008
3009[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Qvatch#0476
3010wouldn't know how
3011
3012[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] Madlib#0001
3013?
3014
3015[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
3016be nice about your pings ?
3017
3018[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
3019@newveeplus what did you have for breakfast
3020
3021[13-Mar-19 12:31 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3022@newveeplus how you doin?
3023
3024[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Joseph B#7458
3025@Mayday  of your original dwarf job sprites, which one do you like the best?
3026
3027[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
3028LMAO YALL
3029
3030[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3031Oh my friend that is an extremely key lesson for collaborative projects. Some people even get super hurt when you write something popular and it implemented open-sourced code they shared using MIT or Creative Commons.
3032
3033[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
3034I had no breakfast ;D
3035
3036[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Cruxador#9109
3037@Meph you get more questions now because you just got here
3038
3039[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
3040But I'm doing GREAT
3041
3042[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Madlib#0001
3043Wait vic
3044
3045[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
3046so much ADRENALINE
3047
3048[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Madlib#0001
3049are you a full dev for DF now?
3050
3051[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] slugg#6482
3052@Madlib are you the real madlib
3053
3054[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Drakonis#1712
3055hmmmmmm
3056
3057[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Madlib#0001
3058@slugg you know it B)
3059
3060[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Drakonis#1712
3061who do i direct questions to
3062
3063[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Haven#0107
3064breakfast is the most important meal of the day tho!
3065
3066[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Madlib#0001
3067call me quasimoto
3068
3069[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] slugg#6482
3070when is Bandana coming out
3071
3072[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Meph#6451
3073@TheKoolEagle It's red. No blue... AAAHHHH! (I'm colorblind.....)
3074
3075[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Jasper#2288
3076Are you guys going to cooperate with the Dwarf therapist or legends viewer guys?
3077
3078[13-Mar-19 12:32 PM] Enemy post#7314
3079I can take questions too. I don't know anything relevant, though.
3080
3081[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3082hahah we're jsut publishing! so not FT dev for DF technically
3083
3084[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Madlib#0001
3085@slugg Soon. TM
3086
3087[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Mayday#1280
3088@Bear Mother See, that's the thing! Those were Tocky's (Atoji's) sprites, that I've just modified! But I think the peasant was my favourite. He had lots of character
3089
3090[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Tuxedo Catfish#1344
3091anyways, apart from that question i just wanted to say this is great news and i hope it gives y'all the relief you need from the insane mess that is the US healthcare system
3092
3093[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Drakonis#1712
3094i want to know if the UI will get an overhaul, to a degree that supercedes dwarf therapist
3095
3096[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] slugg#6482
3097I wont tell anybody else if you give me a date
3098
3099[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3100jsut throw questions I suppose, though we'll have the AMA~
3101
3102[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Mala#7349
3103Legends viewer already uses stuff that DF saves natviely
3104
3105[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Meph#6451
3106@Madlib What?
3107
3108[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Madlib#0001
3109@newveeplus proud of this work! haven't felt this much hype since 2014
3110
3111{Reactions}
3112❤ 
3113
3114[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3115I’ve been trying to help answer questions based on answers I’ve already seen
3116
3117[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] slugg#6482
3118I promise ?
3119
3120[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Cruxador#9109
3121Oh wait here's a more important question
3122
3123[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3124Chat's getting so fast, no one will see me take this child~!
3125
3126[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Madlib#0001
3127@slugg Hey I heard some rumors that it was gonna be released this year
3128
3129[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Madlib#0001
3130@Asin (Birthday next month) COME BACK HERE KOBOLD!
3131
3132[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3133technically dwarf fortress is already out
3134
3135[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3136inthe past~
3137
3138[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Cruxador#9109
3139What does this mean for multi tile creatures?
3140
3141[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3142and the future~
3143
3144[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Jasper#2288
3145@Asin (Birthday next month) I see you
3146
3147[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Enemy post#7314
3148I see you Asin.
3149
3150[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] 90908#5118
3151@Asin (Birthday next month)  i see u
3152
3153[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Teneb#8323
3154@Asin (Birthday next month) Urist McJr is happy to be free!
3155
3156[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] The Sergeant#7427
3157@Tarn can I ask what made you change your minds? Wikipedia says this isn't the first time you've been offered the choice to commercially release Dwarf Fortress.
3158
3159[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Tarn#6100
3160@Asin (Birthday next month) villain arc progress:  I was hoping to get through with world gen in a few weeks once I finally have time to get back to work after GDC.  Then hmm, the adv mode and dwf mode stuff will take some time.  So, um, it would be silly for me to estimate.  I'm not good at it.   Few months min certainly.
3161
3162[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3163Skulking filth!
3164
3165[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
3166would be nice to have dwarf therapist integrated, but I mean its fine being its own thing too.  Its probably the one piece of 3rd party software I absolutely need to play DF
3167
3168[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
3169@Asin (Birthday next month) COME BACK WITH THE CHILD
3170
3171[13-Mar-19 12:33 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3172@Madlib
3173*Goblin
3174
3175[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] slugg#6482
3176I dont mean the Dwarf Fortress release date, I mean the Bandana collaboration between Madlib and Freddie Gibbs release date ?
3177
3178[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Major Tom#3438
3179I imagine multi tile creatures like big snakes already being possible in df
3180
3181[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3182@The Sergeant familial health problems and patreon and PayPal’s uncertain future
3183
3184[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teneb#8323
3185@Cruxador does have a point since there is mention of sprites exceeding the limits of a single tile
3186
3187[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Madlib#0001
3188@slugg keep your eyes peeled the villain is featured in some tracks
3189
3190[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Barskie#1272
3191Nah
3192
3193[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Major Tom#3438
3194Also isnt like Wagon - multi tile creature
3195
3196[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
3197@Tarn as far as you're concerned is this the official discord for dwarf fortress? 4
3198
3199[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3200THE CHILD IS MINE FOOLS
3201
3202[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3203I mean at least you tried to work it out with him is what it sounds like, which is more than a lot of folks can say when there's IP issues. You didn't just say "Too bad for you huehuehue" and steal his sprites without mentioning him.
3204
3205[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] slugg#6482
3206thank you for Pinata it was very good
3207
3208[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Madlib#0001
3209?
3210
3211[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teneb#8323
3212@Major Tom The wagon is the only multi-tile "creature" in the game.
3213
3214[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Madlib#0001
3215freddie gibbs kills those beats
3216
3217[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Madlib#0001
3218bandana will come out after madvillainy 2
3219
3220[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Teneb#8323
3221and it's not a *proper* creature, can't even be modded
3222
3223[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3224What's the deal with Patreon anyway? Is it just generally unreliable?
3225
3226[13-Mar-19 12:34 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3227Pinata Beats 2 when?
3228
3229[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] newveeplus#3297
3230Yeah, it's kinda unreliable
3231
3232[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3233I can hang out here for awhile and help answer questions that have already been answered
3234
3235[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Madlib#0001
3236@Bear Mother after bandana of course
3237
3238[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Major Tom#3438
3239Aw i thought that it can
3240
3241[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] newveeplus#3297
3242<https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/23/crowd-funding-platform-patreon-announces-it-will-pay-out-half-a-billion-dollars-to-content-creators-in-2019.html>
3243
3244[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Cruxador#9109
3245@Major Tom It's a special case. I mean the old plans for dragons and stuff.
3246
3247[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] burneddi#8888
3248will the Steam release make the Dwarf Fortress forums use HTTPS?
3249
3250[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Madlib#0001
3251it'll be called bandana beats
3252
3253[13-Mar-19 12:35 PM] Meph#6451
3254Multitile creatures... like wagons? https://i.imgur.com/eui6lVW.png (wip)
3255
3256{Embed}
3257https://imgur.com/eui6lVW
3258https://i.imgur.com/eui6lVW.png
3259
3260{Reactions}
3261❤ (7) 
3262
3263[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] slugg#6482
3264oh lord
3265
3266[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] newveeplus#3297
3267hahaahah
3268
3269[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
3270?
3271
3272[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Mayday#1280
3273Hehehe
3274
3275[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Major Tom#3438
3276Damn this looks cool
3277
3278[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3279Is that the wagon sprite?!
3280
3281[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Teneb#8323
3282*WITCHCRAFT*
3283
3284[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Madlib#0001
3285By the way tarn, I wish your family all the best
3286
3287[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Madlib#0001
3288Hope that they get well soon.
3289
3290[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3291@Meph that looks great
3292
3293[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3294AAAAAA THE WAGON
3295
3296[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] keupo#9668
3297what does the wagon look like diagonally?
3298
3299[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] slugg#6482
3300good lord almighty
3301
3302[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3303*spits takes Longland ale*
3304
3305[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Tarn#6100
3306@TheMightyWashburn supporting both versions will slow me down initially here, when I'm setting up the graphics.  After that, we should be able to work in parallel more and also have a good process more practiced.   So the hope is it won't actually be too much of a drag.  I don't know about artist shortages in 10 years.  Should still be artists that want to draw dwarves and stuff.
3307
3308[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] slugg#6482
3309multi tyile sprites
3310
3311[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Qvatch#0476
3312hey keupo
3313
3314[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] keupo#9668
3315hi
3316
3317[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3318@newveeplus damn that's a shame. I saw a lot of potential in that platform
3319
3320[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3321Keupo!
3322
3323[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Major Tom#3438
3324@Meph can you spoil how balista arrows look?
3325
3326[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Teneb#8323
3327If you wonder why we modders are flipping our feces with wagon sprites is because wagons were, up to this point, utterly untouchable by modders
3328
3329[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3330@Tarn Enjoy the flood of questions, so i have one too: Will DFHack be supported on the steam version (As in encouraged from you guys) or will it be an issue
3331
3332[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] Meph#6451
3333@keupo Diagonal ? Thats crazy talk, things only move up, down, left or right.
3334
3335[13-Mar-19 12:36 PM] burneddi#8888
3336is that the real keupo
3337
3338[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3339It's me, UristMcVinesauce!
3340
3341[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Jasper#2288
3342Lies
3343
3344[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Tarn#6100
3345thanks @valyri !
3346
3347[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] slugg#6482
3348can you spoil a forgotten beast sprite? ?
3349
3350[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Meph#6451
3351@Major Tom Best I could do is a ballista.
3352
3353[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Heretic#9491
3354As i understood, current version is last free?
3355
3356[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3357Anybody who loves diagonal door entrances get out.
3358
3359[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] 90908#5118
3360@Tarn should we be expecting performance improvements in the near future
3361
3362[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3363@MoonyTheDwarf there is no functional difference so yes it will work
3364
3365[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Mayday#1280
3366@slugg we could but we forgot it
3367
3368[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
3369@Heretic it will always be free on bay12
3370
3371[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3372yaaaaaaaaay
3373
3374[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3375@Heretic
3376DF classic is always free
3377
3378[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Meph#6451
3379FBs are not there yet ^^
3380
3381[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Teneb#8323
3382@Heretic Futures versions will always be free, as others mentioned
3383
3384[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Heretic#9491
3385This version.
3386
3387[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
3388dwarf fortress classic will keep getting all updates, just not the graphics/music/steam features
3389
3390[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Heretic#9491
3391Not next
3392
3393[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3394???
3395
3396[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Tarn#6100
3397@cuffy FoTF was always vulnerable to there just being too many questions, and if we do get, like, 100+ in some month, I'll have to pick and choose, but I'll still be doing it
3398
3399[13-Mar-19 12:37 PM] Teneb#8323
3400The only thing that the Steam version will have is integrated graphics and sound
3401
3402[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Mayday#1280
3403@Heretic  no, it will continue to be free
3404
3405[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] boggy#8204
3406so it's like just a paid addon
3407
3408[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] slugg#6482
3409and workshop support
3410
3411[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3412Yep
3413
3414[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3415We need to start having DF talks again
3416
3417[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Mala#7349
3418@Heretic There will always be a free ascii version
3419
3420[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Docteur#1903
3421God damn, I can't wait to buy this
3422
3423[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Teneb#8323
3424Think of it as a donation
3425
3426[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3427Do you have any pictures of goblins or will we need to wait until the official release to clap our eyes upon our mortal enemies?
3428
3429[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Mayday#1280
3430Ok guys, gonna grab dinner with family, BRB in 30min
3431
3432{Reactions}
3433food (3) 
3434
3435[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Barskie#1272
3436How deep will the graphics integration be?
3437
3438{Reactions}
3439? (4) ? (4) ? (3) food (2) 
3440
3441[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] newveeplus#3297
3442yes please eat
3443
3444[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3445Need goblin pics
3446
3447[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Meph#6451
3448Goblins are in the big sreens on Patreon
3449
3450[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Heretic#9491
3451and would be problems with binary hacks?
3452
3453[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3454Hard to see those ones too well
3455
3456[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] burneddi#8888
3457is the Steam version essentially just extra bundled assets, or will there be substantial changes in the code as well?
3458
3459[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] ThreeToe#2757
3460also no fiddling with .exe files for those who are turned back by that
3461
3462[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Major Tom#3438
3463@Tanya_KitfoxGames will devlogs be on steam news page?
3464
3465[13-Mar-19 12:38 PM] Cruxador#9109
3466@Tanya_KitfoxGames Since someone didn't understand earlier, it might be good to clarify that "steam features" refers to the features of steam itself, not specific features that are selected to be paywalled.
3467
3468{Reactions}
3469? (3) 
3470
3471[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] SpitefulFox#8214
3472whoamg hype!!!!!!
3473
3474[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
3475good point!
3476
3477[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Aranya#7046
3478Honestly even if they just put the normal Dwarf Fortress on Steam with nothing added I'll still pay for it. The Game's literally historical and is in a gaming museum somewhere.
3479
3480[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Carbolemons#0001
3481:vargDorf:
3482
3483[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3484@burneddi there will likely be some code changes just for steam integration but yes essentially just art/music
3485
3486[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] hioiiiiiiiiiiii#6973
3487@Tarn  @ThreeToe  more FoTF type question, but will I eventually be able to sell copies of a masterful or artifact book that encourages revolt to a human caravan, and then hear about their civic unrest and revolts later? Where are culture/values and shifting values by cultural influence on the roadmap, if at all?
3488
3489[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3490Hope I’m answering this right :p
3491
3492[13-Mar-19 12:39 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
3493by steam features I've meant steam workshop, auto-updates, and like... I dunno if there were ever achievements or trading cards or whatever
3494
3495{Reactions}
3496? 
3497
3498[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Docteur#1903
3499Steam cloud saves maybe?
3500
3501[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] boggy#8204
3502i wonder what the achievements would be like
3503
3504[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Aranya#7046
3505Dwarf Fortress trading cards would be cool..
3506
3507[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3508Man I gotta say the game feels a lot friendlier from a visual standpoint with that tileset from the Patreon post. Very blocky and bright
3509
3510[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Destragon#8720
3511@hioiiiiiiiiiiii funny, I asked something similar in the last FotF
3512
3513[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Cruxador#9109
3514@burneddi There will be new code to support the new graphics, but that will also be available in the free version.
3515
3516[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Meph#6451
3517You reached 10 of "100 unfortunate accidents". Well done!
3518
3519[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Tarn#6100
3520@sapper We don't have a comprehensive API planned for the first release.  The changes to the graphics are going to necessitate more options out in the txt files, but doing hooks for some of the deeper screens will have to wait.  It'll be a while yet before I know what, say, the main fort interface setup looks like.  It's not just a grid anymore, so there will be some additions.
3521
3522[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3523@boggy  To start simple you'd have one for discovering caverns/the circus and so on for the first time
3524
3525[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Docteur#1903
3526Is there any big picture timeline? like "2020", "2021", etc. Or just TBD
3527
3528{Reactions}
3529? (2) ? (2) ? (2) ? 
3530
3531[13-Mar-19 12:40 PM] Heretic#9491
3532steam meant that binary hacks are prohibited and can cause ban in any kind of game, even singleplayer
3533
3534[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Heretic#9491
3535cause steam understand them as trying hack of steam itself
3536
3537[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Cruxador#9109
3538@Aranya Not a gaming museum, a proper museum and a world class one. NYMOMA.
3539
3540[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Qvatch#0476
3541hrm, will a nongridded interface prevent ascii terminal remote play?
3542
3543[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Barskie#1272
3544And a relation of how that will affect DFhack for the Steam version
3545
3546[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Docteur#1903
3547(or a roadmap type thing)
3548
3549[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3550doesn't that depend on VAC? @Heretic
3551
3552[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3553ah
3554
3555[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Nostromo#9666
3556^ yeah
3557
3558[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3559:DF_Logo_White:
3560
3561[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] burneddi#8888
3562Steam doesn't enforce binary hacks outside of games protected by anticheats
3563
3564[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] cuffy#8115
3565@ThreeToe can we be expecting another story from Tales Foretold anytime soon? your stories have always been awesome
3566
3567[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] shaggy#1396
3568:DF_Logo_White:
3569
3570[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] mandaloriancrusaders#3079
3571Oh dear, been on a hiatus for 12 months (kids etc), looks like the addiction is coming back! Starting to get the cold sweats already
3572
3573[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Teneb#8323
3574Only VAC games are offlimits to binary hacking
3575
3576[13-Mar-19 12:41 PM] Teneb#8323
3577AFAIK
3578
3579[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] shaggy#1396
3580I’m currently addicted to dwarf fortress
3581
3582[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Warded#3577
3583The dwarf pics, darling. Hand them over
3584
3585[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] shaggy#1396
3586This is good news
3587
3588[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Aranya#7046
3589Well I'll be damned. Dwarf Fortress is even more historical than I had originally thought.
3590
3591[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Tarn#6100
3592@pineapple thanks!
3593
3594[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] hioiiiiiiiiiiii#6973
3595@Destragon  I think it's a cool potential progression from the relatively recent music/books/dancing and religion too, with its values and performers
3596
3597[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Docteur#1903
3598Well, I don't really know this server so I'm off. Thanks for your work on DF, awesome game! Cya!
3599
3600[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3601Question: why are dwarf brats so heavy
3602
3603[13-Mar-19 12:42 PM] Nostromo#9666
3604@Tarn just wanted to say how much I have apreciated DF over the years fascinating and has directly inspired me to study programming/computer science
3605
3606[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3607DF inspired a lot of folks to take up the programming mantle in some way
3608
3609[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Destragon#8720
3610@hioiiiiiiiiiiii books in libraries can already change the values of a civ during worldgen, not sure about outside of worldgen though
3611
3612[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3613@Bear Mother decibels influences me a bit
3614
3615[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3616Definitely *
3617
3618[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3619Autocorrect
3620
3621[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] hioiiiiiiiiiiii#6973
3622@Destragon Whoa, somehow I missed that, that's neat
3623
3624[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3625Switching to laptop
3626
3627[13-Mar-19 12:43 PM] ThreeToe#2757
3628@cuffy I rarely get requests for my stories, but it seems like some people actually want me to finish my cliff hanger.  Thanks for reading, it means a lot
3629
3630{Reactions}
3631❤ (3) 
3632
3633[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Tarn#6100
3634@Teneb Yeah, creature tiles are going to change quite a bit.  Dwarves and other humanoids will be built from a few pieces which can reference hair, skin, etc., and castes are certainly a part of that.
3635
3636{Reactions}
3637? (6) ❤ (6) ? 
3638
3639[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Destragon#8720
3640@hioiiiiiiiiiiii yeah I didn't know it either, look at the last FotF reply and search for "library"
3641
3642[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Heretic#9491
3643Anyway, great thanks for you job, Tarn, even if it's the end of the road.  All this years it was great.
3644
3645[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Meph#6451
3646@Teneb Military should show the correct equipped weapons and armor too.
3647
3648{Reactions}
3649? (3) 
3650
3651[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Kruggsmash#0286
3652oh my lord that is exciting
3653
3654[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] shaggy#1396
3655That is amazing
3656
3657[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3658Many examples are on the steam-page
3659
3660[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3661WE GOT KRUGG
3662
3663[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3664@Tarn wait does this mean the return of slaves to Armok style texture changes? Eg it shows the skin not bing there anymore?
3665
3666[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3667OOOOH
3668
3669[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] Enemy post#7314
3670Hi Krugg.
3671
3672[13-Mar-19 12:44 PM] boggy#8204
3673it's just the beginning my bois
3674
3675[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Tarn#6100
3676@TheMightyWashburn yeah, as I recollect creature tiles can get up to about 3x2 regular tiles in size now.  Elephants are properly scary, and they were already scary.
3677
3678{Reactions}
3679?? 
3680
3681[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Major Tom#3438
3682@Tarn how's your progress on worldgen?
3683
3684[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] burneddi#8888
3685do these changes reflect game mechanics or are they simply graphical?
3686
3687[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Qvatch#0476
3688woah
3689
3690[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3691EVERYONE IS HERE
3692
3693[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] shaggy#1396
3694Finally some properly scary creatures
3695
3696[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Heretic#9491
3697today i can't even remember how many times i have run Dwarf Fortress.
3698
3699[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] newveeplus#3297
3700where is waluigi
3701
3702{Reactions}
3703? (3) 
3704
3705[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3706I mean I can say that it was probably 2010 or so that I first played DF. Indecipherable nightmare, gave it up. Came back to it after reading the a guide someone put together. Started wondering how it was put together, ended up doing programming courses in school. Went to college for software development, went to work in a small shop, been doing it professionally for five years. So yeah DF has inspired at least one person to become a programmer.
3707
3708[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] newveeplus#3297
3709EVERYONE IS NOT HERE :C
3710
3711{Reactions}
3712? 
3713
3714[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Hydra479#7255
3715Wow hype creatures
3716
3717[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Heretic#9491
3718and it always was great experience
3719
3720[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Barskie#1272
3721Hmm, how will the larger creature sizes affect pathfinding?
3722
3723[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Moin the Miner#3058
37243 cheers for Dwarf Fortress!
3725
3726[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3727Am now on laptop, no more embarassing autocorrect
3728
3729[13-Mar-19 12:45 PM] Tarn#6100
3730@Bear Mother my adventures are not grand, they are usually like five minutes long, ha ha ha
3731
3732[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3733You and me both cowboy
3734
3735[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Barskie#1272
3736Or is it just the appearance that is multi-tile, not the creature.
3737
3738[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Meph#6451
3739@newveeplus somehow I think you are not taking this super serious. ?
3740
3741[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3742HAZZAH!
3743*HAZZAH!*
3744***HAZZAH!***
3745
3746[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3747I play adventure mode far more then fort mode, so i hope it gets tons of love ?
3748
3749[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3750DF insprired me to learn x86-64 assembly because i wanted to work on DFHack. Still not doing that, but i know x86-64 pretty well now
3751
3752[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] newveeplus#3297
3753@Meph excuse me i am 110% serious about this
3754
3755[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] newveeplus#3297
3756i will fight u !!!
3757
3758[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3759Waluigi is assist trophy
3760
3761[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3762He is here
3763
3764[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Enemy post#7314
3765He is always here.
3766
3767[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3768well enough that i'm now working on disassembling BYOND
3769
3770[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3771Oh?
3772
3773[13-Mar-19 12:46 PM] burneddi#8888
3774>BYOND
3775
3776[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] burneddi#8888
3777my condolences
3778
3779[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Warded#3577
3780Okay, my biggest question is... How tall are dwarves in Dwarf Fortress? ?
3781
3782[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3783yes
3784
3785[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3786thank you
3787
3788[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Ibis#6798
3789@Tarn how big are dorf penises?
3790
3791{Reactions}
3792? (3) ? (3) eggplanting (3) 
3793
3794[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3795it's awful and horrifying
3796
3797[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3798UHHHHH @Ibis
3799
3800[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] shaggy#1396
3801Ok then
3802
3803[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Meph#6451
3804@Barskie plan is to keep the creature (object) 32x32, with the actual sprite overlapping a bit for larger creatures. Targetting/pathing would still be a single tile creature.
3805
3806[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] G3Kappa#4580
3807@Ibis Bruh sound effect #2
3808
3809[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3810ibis pls
3811
3812[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] shaggy#1396
3813Ibis thank you for that mental image
3814
3815[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3816Hmm multitiled dragons are near i can sense it
3817
3818[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Bear Mother#0880
3819I ended up a full stack .NET MVC programmer at a cloud shop, pretty far away from DF.
3820
3821[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3822that question scares me
3823
3824[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Barskie#1272
3825Cheers Meph, appreciated.
3826
3827[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Meph#6451
3828@newveeplus Is that a challenge? A duel?
3829
3830{Reactions}
3831bestdab 
3832
3833[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Drakonis#1712
3834the question nobody wanted to ask
3835
3836[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3837Cursed question
3838
3839[13-Mar-19 12:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3840the question nobody wants answered
3841
3842[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Mala#7349
3843@Meph so the way I'm doing creature sizes in AV, then
3844
3845[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3846@Tarn will projectiles thrown from ballistae/catapults and crossbows properly connect to multitile creatures relative to z level?
3847
3848[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3849Need to repel those giants definitely with a big ore rock to the face.
3850
3851[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3852Keep them off my walls
3853
3854[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Carbolemons#0001
3855:urist:
3856
3857[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3858I just wanna know how tall a dorf is
3859Not their dongs, @Ibis
3860
3861[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3862solid refined lead boulders when
3863
3864[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Tarn#6100
3865@Ljósapaldr The new music is definitely its own style.  I gave Dabu a lot of information about the seasons, and I think it comes through in the music really well, but it'll be a whole new world, just like with the graphics!
3866
3867[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Finn The Turtle#2673
3868Not the question we wanted, but the one we deserve.
3869
3870{Reactions}
3871? 
3872
3873[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Major Tom#3438
3874@Meph will graphic update the wounds? Or missing limbs
3875
3876[13-Mar-19 12:48 PM] Meph#6451
3877@FantasticFwoosh Not planned atm.
3878
3879[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3880@Tarn
3881Is Dabu here?
3882
3883[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Tubles#1981
3884@Tanya_KitfoxGames Hi, you need that :Urist: emoji for this server *it's amazing*
3885
3886[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Tarn#6100
3887@Systech Hi Georgy Krasnoselskih!  I'm glad you're enjoying the game!
3888
3889[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
3890That's a pity.
3891
3892[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3893In the serverM
3894
3895[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Meph#6451
3896@Major Tom Oh... this is something we have not discussed at all yet. Hu. Good point.
3897
3898[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Qvatch#0476
3899how repetative will the sound effects be? I can't stand soundsense right now because of that
3900
3901[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] sapper#4462
3902thanks for the answer Toady!
3903
3904[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
3905cant believe im fighting meph now
3906
3907[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Major Tom#3438
3908Yay :D
3909
3910[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
3911I have changed my profile picture
3912
3913[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3914@Meph not suprised, that'd be a ton of work, and it wouldnt work all to well without lots of masking tricks
3915
3916[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Major Tom#3438
3917I just thought about it cause you said that creature sprites are now in parts
3918
3919[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3920@newveeplus
3921*hands you an axe*
3922Fight him with this
3923
3924[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] sapper#4462
3925@MoonyTheDwarf the madman, byond was called DUNG in early versions for a good reason
3926
3927[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Major Tom#3438
3928So its probably doable?
3929
3930[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3931Lol
3932
3933[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
3934bless
3935
3936[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] shaggy#1396
3937:DF_Logo_White: :DF_Logo_White: :DF_Logo_White:
3938
3939[13-Mar-19 12:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
3940@Asin (Birthday next month) looking out for me
3941
3942[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Pendragon9123#7574
3943:DF_Logo_White: :DF_Logo_White: :DF_Logo_White:
3944
3945[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Meph#6451
3946@newveeplus Dont worry, I'm a push over.
3947
3948[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3949@sapper the code still has it called DungServer and DungClient internally :D
3950
3951[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] sapper#4462
3952lol
3953
3954[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3955oh btw
3956
3957[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
3958@newveeplus
3959Just join my demon lord after this
3960
3961[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Meph#6451
3962@pirate
3963
3964[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] shaggy#1396
3965Imagine dynamic sprite changes for the wounds :DF_Logo_White: :pogchamp:
3966
3967[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3968did you know that BYOND has a functioning IRC client, Telnet client, and CGI server built in?
3969
3970[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Tarn#6100
3971@Gremblo Art Show By Steam features I just meant like the workshop and anything we end up doing with achievements or cards and that kind of thing.  A lot of the QoL stuff that isn't strictly graphical will be in classic too
3972
3973[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Systech#3546
3974It is an great honor, that Tarn replied to me
3975
3976[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Meph#6451
3977@Major Tom no, they are not multitile. But the sprites are larger than 32x
3978
3979[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
3980all 3 are broken
3981
3982[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Lewd#0639
3983@ThreeToe After Steam, when will the :Switch: release happen?
3984
3985{Reactions}
3986? 
3987
3988[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Lewd#0639
3989☕
3990
3991[13-Mar-19 12:50 PM] Major Tom#3438
3992Oh i see
3993
3994[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] ToadDude#5175
3995@Tarn no question, but I just wanted to say thanks for the hundreds of hours of enjoyment your game has given me :)
3996
3997{Reactions}
3998? 
3999
4000[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] G3Kappa#4580
4001@Lewd Imagine running DF on console hardware
4002
4003[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] sapper#4462
4004well cgi makes sense with http crap it uses for rendering
4005and ass irc for simple chat
4006however telnet is wtf-worthy
4007
4008[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Tubles#1981
4009I just... I literally can't imagine contorting the controls to console -_-
4010
4011[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4012My demon lord needs more servants to conquer Buzong! Who shall join us?!
4013
4014[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Sethatos#1607
4015@Tanya_KitfoxGames @Tarn  Without getting into specifics, were there difficult legal hurdles to get around with this team up, or was it a fairly straight forward pairing of publisher and designer?
4016
4017[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] Lewd#0639
4018Spread the love.
4019
4020[13-Mar-19 12:51 PM] shitidontknow#3666
4021@Tarn  Hey there, I was curious if there will be any changes to animal people with the Villians update? I guess I'm mostly curious if they will get any changes to their entities/civs so they can be a little more interesting than they currently are.
4022
4023[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] burneddi#8888
4024@MoonyTheDwarf if they're broken how are they functioning
4025
4026[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Qvatch#0476
4027so.. is there a beta test signup?
4028
4029[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Enemy post#7314
4030@G3Kappa I bet that mutant kid the N64 controller was designed for could handle it.
4031
4032[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Mayday#1280
4033OK I'm back!
4034
4035[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] crocatowa#9356
4036The amount this game has changed since 40d just amazes me
4037
4038@Tarn 
4039So the steam release is more just a QoL wrapper for the game? Since classic on the site will still get all the updates?
4040
4041[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Carbolemons#0001
4042@Tarn Im sure you've been asked this a lot. Will multithreading be included sooner or later?
4043
4044[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4045@burneddi because they DO work, they're just so buggy you dont want to use them
4046
4047[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
4048the legalities were easy between us -- but we had to make sure Steam was on board with it still being free haha ? thankfully they were also quite cooperative, since they're also fans of DF
4049
4050{Reactions}
4051? (8) ? (3) 
4052
4053[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Lewd#0639
4054(It wasn't a serious question, but seeing DF on *any* console would be pretty amazing. Especially the Switch, don't ask me why.)
4055
4056[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Mayday#1280
4057How much did @Meph  share in my absence?!
4058
4059[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Enemy post#7314
4060Much wisdom.
4061
4062[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
4063he spilled everything
4064
4065[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4066@crocatowa  essentially yes
4067
4068[13-Mar-19 12:52 PM] Enemy post#7314
4069He spoiled the ending.
4070
4071[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Lewd#0639
4072"You lose."
4073
4074[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] catoblepas#6151
4075@Tarn  With  stuff like mercenaries and monasteries  are their plans to look at how stuff like clothing etc works in regards to caste, entity position, gender etc so you could get stuff like monks wearing robes or a mercenary company  wearing red caps to make different groups and civilizations more culturally distinct?
4076
4077[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
4078losing is winning!
4079
4080[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Meph#6451
4081@Mayday I spoiled literally everything
4082
4083[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4084Will you join the Wraith of Barbarity and help us conquer the dwarves,  @Mayday?
4085
4086{Reactions}
4087bfthink 
4088
4089[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Enemy post#7314
4090Spoiler warning, @Lewd.
4091
4092[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Mayday#1280
4093@Enemy post but was it the nosepick ending or the pine train ending?
4094
4095{Reactions}
4096thonkeng 
4097
4098[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] RainFrogs#7863
4099@Tanya_KitfoxGames does having a production company mean DF is going to be applying for grants and maybe looking for real investments?  Or was it just to get it out on steam?
4100
4101[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4102Both
4103
4104[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Gremblo Art Show#1086
4105Thank you for the reply Tarn
4106
4107[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4108@catoblepas  if that happens it will be generated on a per entity basis, he has talked about this on the df talks
4109
4110[13-Mar-19 12:53 PM] Enemy post#7314
4111@Mayday  The Five Nights at Freddy's crossover.
4112
4113[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Enemy post#7314
4114Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
4115
4116{Reactions}
4117? 
4118
4119[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] catoblepas#6151
4120oh fun
4121
4122[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Mayday#1280
4123@Asin (Birthday next month)  you know it, bro!
4124
4125{Attachments}
4126https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555404726817259580/555433501575610388/unknown.png
4127
4128{Reactions}
4129❤ (11) Zekegasm (2) pogchamp penitence (2) 
4130
4131[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Meph#6451
4132@Mayday I kinda let slip the win-condition of DF, that has been in the game since the beginning.
4133
4134[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] ToadDude#5175
4135what a lad
4136
4137[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4138that looks good
4139
4140[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4141Loved the part where ||The one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater FB picture Meph released||
4142
4143[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Tutas#3710
4144has anyone mentioned price, anywhere yet?
4145
4146[13-Mar-19 12:54 PM] Meph#6451
4147$20
4148
4149{Reactions}
4150? 
4151
4152[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
4153I mean, Tarn and Zach can do whatever they want with DF, it's still their game. but afaik there's no plans to look for more money, or hire more devs or anything. hopefully between patreon and steam everything will be OK and steady as she goes.
4154
4155{Reactions}
4156? (4) 
4157
4158[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4159^^
4160
4161[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Meph#6451
4162(or so I'm told)
4163
4164[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Sethatos#1607
4165@Meph Any thoughts put in to animating the movements of sprites for the new version?
4166
4167[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Theoria#1842
4168We will get multithreading one day ?
4169
4170[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Tutas#3710
4171also this new tileset looks great btw
4172
4173[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Meph#6451
4174@Sethatos you mean walking, fighting, etc for creatures?
4175
4176[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Ibis#6798
4177Sorry for the penis question, a discord server dared me to
4178
4179[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Sethatos#1607
4180@Meph Yep
4181
4182[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Tutas#3710
4183$20 is a bit too much for me if it released tomorrow, but since it's like this, i'll definently make a "dwarf jar"
4184
4185[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Tarn#6100
4186@ThatusTwatus I still have to set up Workshop support -- one of things @Meph and I are going to work on.  I assume since the raws are all the same, the old mods will all still work.
4187
4188[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4189@Mayday
4190Thank you most kindly!
4191Now, for UDAR SABLEGLIMMERS THE TENEBROUS METEORS!
4192
4193[13-Mar-19 12:55 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4194@Ibis  please act appropriately on any discord server
4195
4196{Reactions}
4197FoxLove 
4198
4199[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Qvatch#0476
4200@Ibis I dare you to act like a person
4201
4202[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
4203ah cool
4204
4205[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] shaggy#1396
4206Wait where are these released images oh boy
4207
4208[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Tubles#1981
4209@Tutas I think it's also a good option for people that have been long-time fans but haven't donated in a while
4210
4211[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] shaggy#1396
4212Time to scroll up
4213
4214[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Meph#6451
4215@Sethatos basic animations we kinda fiddle around with. Waves on water, sparkling gems, that sort of thing. But full movement on creatures, which is like 20 to 100 unique frames, with 767 unique creatures in DF... no. That would take too long and cost too much.
4216
4217[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Major Tom#3438
4218Are kobolds cute or nasty in the graphics version?
4219
4220[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4221and he keeps adding new creatures
4222
4223[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4224Ah yes
4225
4226[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Pendragon9123#7574
4227@Tarn Do you plan on giving Quill18 and other youtubers early access?
4228
4229[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4230Cutebolds/Creepbolds
4231
4232[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] Lewd#0639
4233Oh heck, that's probably the most important question.
4234
4235[13-Mar-19 12:56 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4236The eternal debate.
4237
4238[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Qvatch#0476
4239will the included tileset properly handle female dwarf beards?
4240
4241[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Gypsyfish#8862
4242Hi there! most likely  this has been answered already, but will the steam version support things like the therapist right out of the gate?
4243
4244[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Cruxador#9109
4245@Meph Honestly one tile of animation would already be a nice step up. The dream would be one tile of walk/idle sprite so you can see which ones are dead/asleep by whether they're moving, and also one attack/action sprite to use in combat or while working, and then flip between the applicable one of those and their default sprite on a (short, like .75 seconds?) timer
4246
4247[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Mayday#1280
4248@Asin (Birthday next month)  my friend wants to tag along
4249
4250{Attachments}
4251https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555404726817259580/555434180549279745/unknown.png
4252
4253[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] ThatusTwatus#4967
4254D
4255
4256O
4257
4258R
4259
4260F
4261
4262B
4263
4264U
4265
4266T
4267
4268T
4269
4270{Reactions}
4271? ? 
4272
4273[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Ryukan#0001
4274Hey @Qvatch
4275
4276[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Meph#6451
4277@Tarn I can do a little write up with what might be important for modders.
4278
4279[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Ryukan#0001
4280Mind giving me the tl;dr?
4281
4282[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] shitidontknow#3666
4283@Meph will these changes for steam make it any easier to distinguish body parts graphically? I would be so happy if teeth didn't look like skeletons or piles of gore...
4284
4285[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Qvatch#0476
4286glad to see you
4287
4288[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] newveeplus#3297
4289i look away for like 5 mins and i lost all of you
4290
4291[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Lewd#0639
4292@Meph @Mayday Will kobolds feature Cutebold art, or something unique and never-seen-before?
4293
4294[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4295@Mayday
4296Ah, yes! Let the troll join!
4297
4298[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Sethatos#1607
4299@Meph Ah cool. I was wondering if it was even possible.
4300
4301[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4302@Meph all of the new graphics features will be avaliable to other tileset creators, right?
4303
4304[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Enemy post#7314
4305That would be helpful, @Meph.
4306
4307[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Meph#6451
4308Yo, your friend doesn't look that great right now. https://i.imgur.com/wXoPgGT.png
4309
4310{Embed}
4311https://imgur.com/wXoPgGT
4312https://i.imgur.com/wXoPgGT.png
4313
4314{Reactions}
4315❤ (15) ? (6) disgust DF_Logo_White (2) 
4316
4317[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] shaggy#1396
4318Is there any forgotten beast sprites :DF_Logo_White:
4319
4320[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4321@Gypsyfish  just as well as the classic version i have heard
4322
4323[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Mayday#1280
4324@Meph  Oh dang, you broke my troll!
4325
4326[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Qvatch#0476
4327@Meph will those wiggle appropriately as they drag?
4328
4329[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] Tarn#6100
4330@Bear Mother Tanya and I's book is good for procgen!  But um, I don't really have one I learned from or go to.
4331
4332[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] burneddi#8888
4333@Meph trolls have blue blood
4334
4335{Reactions}
4336? (2) ? (2) 
4337
4338[13-Mar-19 12:57 PM] shitidontknow#3666
4339@Tarn @ThreeToe congrats guys, I'm really happy for you, I hope this makes you a good deal of money. Thanks for all the fun.
4340
4341[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Lukaus#6236
4342Oooh yeah, how will FB sprites work?
4343
4344[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] burneddi#8888
4345is this a RETCON
4346
4347[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Meph#6451
4348@Major Tom No bolds yet, but for me they will always be Cute.
4349
4350[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4351It'll be fun to rediscover the wildlife of the underground post release.
4352
4353[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4354In all their odd and strange forms
4355
4356[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4357Like rutherers
4358
4359[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Officer Rich Stretchowski#1458
4360@Tarn regarding the mod support and so on, how's that gonna look with the workshop, given that a lot of mods would potentially have conflicting files? some kind of alternate to the errorlog? also have you considered adding some "modding help" people for issues and tutorial stuff like putnam or squamous?
4361
4362[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4363@Meph  trolls have cyan blood
4364
4365[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Meph#6451
4366@Qvatch female dwarves have no beards.
4367
4368{Reactions}
4369ExcuseMeWtf (4) 
4370
4371[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Ryukan#0001
4372Mind telling me what the changes are between the two versions, planned or implemented?
4373
4374[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4375lol good come back
4376
4377[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4378?
4379
4380[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Qvatch#0476
4381@Meph it's right in the raws, commented out for some bizzare reason.
4382
4383[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Meph#6451
4384@shitidontknow yes
4385
4386{Reactions}
4387?? 
4388
4389[13-Mar-19 12:58 PM] Tutas#3710
4390i don't got much money lying around, so i'd buy the game for the workshop support (and proudly present on my steam account that I do play Dwarf Fortress ? )
4391
4392[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Cruxador#9109
4393Oof at that troll blood gaffe
4394
4395[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
4396Whaaaaaaaaaat is going on
4397
4398[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Tutas#3710
4399geez that message took long to send
4400
4401[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Major Tom#3438
4402@Ryukan graphics, new music and steam features like workshop
4403
4404[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Ryukan#0001
4405hmmm
4406
4407[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Bear Mother#0880
4408@Tarn thank you for answering my questions. Hope you folks have a happy day.
4409
4410[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Meph#6451
4411@MoonyTheDwarf yes, but their tilesets using those features would only work with the Steam release.
4412
4413{Reactions}
4414? (3) 
4415
4416[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Gremdavel#7478
4417I have so much anxiety about this -- is there somewhere we can go to alleviate that anxiety? This server is hopping and not sure if parsing though it is feasible.
4418
4419[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Tarn#6100
4420@Jasper re: more in control, I just mean in terms of not being worried about one of the payment services suddenly folding or changing
4421
4422[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Lewd#0639
4423https://1d4chan.org/images/9/9f/Koboldhouse.gif important example of cutebold graphics
4424
4425[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] crocatowa#9356
4426Will there be a way to get all the years I've spent playing logged into steam... hmmm
4427
4428{Reactions}
4429? (3) 
4430
4431[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Meph#6451
4432@burneddi *GASP You are god damn right!
4433
4434[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Tarn#6100
4435@Madlib Thanks!
4436
4437[13-Mar-19 12:59 PM] Warded#3577
4438Imagine brogue-like environment "animations" in dwarf fortress ?
4439
4440[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4441@Gremdavel  dont worry kitfox games are a good publisher
4442
4443[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] Qvatch#0476
4444@crocatowa hopefully not :)
4445
4446[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4447@Meph So this is essentially a new renderer thrown over an API. Will the API be exposed officially with C headers?
4448
4449[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4450Cutebolds and cyan blood are definitely modding objectives post-release.
4451
4452[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
4453Oh wow oh jeez it's Tarn
4454
4455[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4456Workshop aught to be busy.
4457
4458[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] DanteTorn#9487
4459Hello.
4460
4461[13-Mar-19 01:00 PM] Meph#6451
4462@Lukaus we plan to merge different sprites of the fitting body parts for FBs. It's all work in progress however
4463
4464{Reactions}
4465? 
4466
4467[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] shaggy#1396
4468The mods are gonna be great
4469
4470[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Tutas#3710
4471i knew you'd get here @DanteTorn
4472
4473[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Tutas#3710
4474lmao
4475
4476[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4477Question!
4478
4479[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] SalmonGod#7530
4480congrats to Tarn, Meph, Mayday, and Threetoe
4481
4482{Reactions}
4483? 
4484
4485[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4486What about our loyal mounts, beak dogs?
4487
4488[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Tutas#3710
4489?
4490
4491[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
4492There should probably be a FAQ at this point
4493
4494{Reactions}
4495? (7) 
4496
4497[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4498^^^^
4499
4500[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Tutas#3710
4501^^
4502
4503[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Ryukan#0001
4504^
4505
4506[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Mayday#1280
4507I'm on the fence about cutebolds, since they seem like such a unique work of their original creator (whose name I forgot!)
4508
4509[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Meph#6451
4510@Qvatch I know. If you add it back in, they should get beards too.
4511
4512[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Enemy post#7314
4513@Asin (Birthday next month) There are beak dogs in some of the released screenshots.
4514
4515[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Qvatch#0476
4516thanks
4517
4518[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] ToadDude#5175
4519there's an FAQ that's pinned
4520
4521[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] DanteTorn#9487
4522I'm a moderator on the unoffical DF server, for those not already aware. :blobheart:
4523
4524[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Ryukan#0001
4525ah
4526
4527[13-Mar-19 01:01 PM] Mayday#1280
4528I love them but having learned from previous experience, I'm a bit wary of using that design
4529
4530[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] BOX#4578
4531Holy shit, if FB's sprites are modular like that that'd be so awesome
4532
4533[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Meph#6451
4534@MoonyTheDwarf The thingamic will add to the somethingorother, yes. (No idea, that's a question for Tarn)
4535
4536[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Enemy post#7314
4537@Asin (Birthday next month)  They're at the north and NW ends here:https://i.imgur.com/76yLzTd.png
4538
4539[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Meph#6451
4540@FantasticFwoosh The workshops I just finished. ?
4541
4542[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] DanteTorn#9487
4543I was curious about the FB designs.
4544
4545[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] shaggy#1396
4546Where are all the released screenshots ?
4547
4548[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Qvatch#0476
4549steam
4550
4551[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4552Found them
4553
4554[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Ghostly#8180
4555I always viewed Dwarf Fortress as one of the few constants in life, something that's never going to change. I sure hope this isn't the beginning of its end.
4556
4557[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4558I meant steam workshop modding support but good all the same, masterwork-workshops were high quality.
4559
4560[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Tutas#3710
4561Will the GUI be moddable aswell as the normal sprites?
4562
4563[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Major Tom#3438
4564@Meph if merging different sprites for FBs is in the works should we expect the same for the musical instruments?
4565
4566[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4567@Tarn Redirected question about the new graphics renderer:
4568So this is essentially a new renderer thrown over an API. Will the API be exposed officially with C headers?
4569
4570[13-Mar-19 01:02 PM] Cruxador#9109
4571@Meph It was stated earlier that new modding features will also be in the free version. So which is it? Will you only be able to fully graphically mod in the paid version after all?
4572
4573[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Ghostly#8180
4574So many things can go wrong.
4575
4576[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] SalmonGod#7530
4577hey Meph, is the official tileset going to be 64x64?
4578
4579[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4580*Where is their rainbow colored flesh?*
4581
4582[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4583^ *skin
4584
4585[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Tutas#3710
4586^ *bones
4587
4588[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Mayday#1280
4589@SalmonGod  it's 32x32
4590
4591[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Ryukan#0001
4592I do agree, I hope this doesn't lead to irreparable damage @Ghostly
4593
4594[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4595Another thing for the workshoppers to fix
4596
4597[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Tarn#6100
4598@The Sergeant post up on patreon has more specifics about the reasoning here, or the FAQ around here somewhere.  short answer is healthcare stuff
4599
4600[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Major Tom#3438
4601Ah and also artifacts and books
4602
4603[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] burneddi#8888
4604@MoonyTheDwarf from what I gather there'll be a new, official and improved tileset framework that will supersede things like the TWBT plugin for dfhack, and it'll be in both the paid and the free version (but the free version won't have the graphics assets of the paid version). But the discord has been moving very quick so might have to wait until something stabler like the AMA for a more comprehensive answer.
4605
4606[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Meph#6451
4607@shaggy https://imgur.com/a/YVAB3Eh
4608
4609{Embed}
4610https://imgur.com/a/YVAB3Eh
4611Pixelart for a game I've been working on. :)
4612https://i.imgur.com/XFPkbuPh.jpg
4613
4614[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] Qvatch#0476
4615come now ryukan, you should know better
4616
4617[13-Mar-19 01:03 PM] SalmonGod#7530
4618is it going to incorporate TWBT?
4619
4620[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Ryukan#0001
4621@Qvatch
4622
4623[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Ryukan#0001
4624Just worried
4625
4626[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4627@burneddi Meph stated the new features are not avaliable in the free version ?
4628
4629[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Qvatch#0476
4630these are longstanding people, we know how they all go
4631
4632[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4633Anxiety is normal, just ask Urist.
4634
4635[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Ghostly#8180
4636By opening the game to a wider consumer market you also open the floodgate of possibly irreversible changes.
4637
4638[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Meph#6451
4639@SalmonGod No, because Tarn can add most things TWBT does.
4640
4641[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4642A few hours in a statue garden should fix it
4643
4644[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Ryukan#0001
4645heh
4646
4647[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] SalmonGod#7530
4648ok thanks for answering ?
4649
4650[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Satoru#3036
4651Wait what sorcery is this new channel
4652
4653[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] Ryukan#0001
4654_stands in statue garden_
4655
4656{Reactions}
4657? 
4658
4659[13-Mar-19 01:04 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4660@Satoru Dwarf Fortress is getting a steam release from kitfox
4661
4662[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] shitidontknow#3666
4663@Tarn   Just throwing this out here- having the game on steam and easily modded will make the Big Wait for M&Ms (ha) much easier to take.
4664
4665[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4666so the entire community is invading
4667
4668[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Meph#6451
4669@Cruxador all changes except the graphics and sound will be in the free version.
4670
4671[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4672I'm excited for the possibility of a Linux release. I'll even beta test it myself.
4673
4674[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Qvatch#0476
4675if anything, this development points to a future where the bus factor may be better than 1
4676
4677[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4678*There is a statue of a giant Toad man and a Guineapig man*
4679
4680[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
4681this is our home now.
4682
4683[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Riley#7343
4684I didn’t see anything about it in the FAQ or on the Steam page, but what price is it being set at?
4685
4686[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] shaggy#1396
4687This is great
4688
4689[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Ghostly#8180
4690@Tarn I guess I have a direct question. Do you retain the final say in what happens to the game? Is game development going to follow your vision and nothing else?
4691
4692{Reactions}
4693bfthink 
4694
4695[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Tubles#1981
4696@Tanya_KitfoxGames You might want to edit the link to be the view-only version so it loads quicker/looks cleaner: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/preview?ts=5c786ef7/pubhtml
4697I'd also suggest an extended FAQ for a lot of what's coming up in here, and maybe a bot to announce it periodically since people don't check pins
4698
4699[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4700@Twinklebreeze linux has been around forever on the site, steam version should be linux too
4701
4702[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] blvebird#4143
4703super excited! thousands of congratulations to Bay12 : )
4704
4705[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] DanteTorn#9487
4706@Tarn Will there be any bugfixing post-launch of the Steam version?
4707
4708[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Meph#6451
4709@Cruxador so you can make your mod, release it for the free version, but if you want super fancy graphics for it, it's either Steam or TWBT
4710
4711[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Tarn#6100
4712@MoonyTheDwarf DFHack has always been magic to me, but the same mem-hook thingies will be there, and the format of the exe and everything is the same, so I figure it's about the same?
4713
4714[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4715@Riley according to Itch.io, $20
4716
4717[13-Mar-19 01:05 PM] Riley#7343
4718Thanks!
4719
4720[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] Satoru#3036
4721Do we need new ascii emojiis? @newveeplus  ?
4722
4723[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4724@Tarn Sounds good. Any new APIs for graphics hooks is what i was curious about
4725
4726[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] newveeplus#3297
4727we totally do
4728
4729{Reactions}
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4731
4732[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] Cruxador#9109
4733@Meph So "graphics" in this case includes the underlying systems that support the graphics too? Not just the actual graphics? How is that going to work with raws?
4734
4735[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] Meph#6451
4736@Riley $20ish
4737
4738[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4739Its worth mentioning that steam allows you to take steam screenshots super easily.
4740
4741[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
4742@Tarn do you think it will be on steam before the year is done?
4743
4744[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4745and also, DFhack *is* magic. Anything to do with assembly hacks is magic :P
4746
4747[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] Tarn#6100
4748@90908 performance improvements on the same schedule as ever - I've been squeezing out what I can periodically, but huge changes like multi-threading etc. are not in the cards
4749
4750[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4751So you can catalogue your dwarfing.
4752
4753[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] shaggy#1396
4754Here comes a new era of modding :DF_Logo_White:
4755
4756[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4757@MoonyTheDwarf It's not listed yet, but I'm not worried. A lot of games with Linux support don't launch with it.
4758
4759[13-Mar-19 01:06 PM] 90908#5118
4760Thank you!
4761
4762[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4763Tarn quoting the game Majesty
4764
4765[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4766i hope linux support comes with launch
4767
4768[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Ryukan#0001
4769Hmm, someone is gonna have to go and grab all the dormant mods and bring them to steam and update them
4770
4771[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Ryukan#0001
4772:Thonk:
4773
4774[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4775i dont mind using Proton
4776
4777[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] shaggy#1396
4778:disgust:
4779
4780[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4781ALL the mods
4782
4783[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Cruxador#9109
4784Also, what constitutes "super fancy" in this case? Bigger sprites? Changing according to adjacency, as the ramps in the screenshots? Creature sprite dynamism?
4785
4786[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Meph#6451
4787@Cruxador as far as I understood, it includes the actual sprites. Free DF will remain Ascii. Raws will be identical.
4788
4789[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4790but launch support is great
4791
4792[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] ThreeToe#2757
4793@Ghostly I'll answer for Toady cause he is way behind, hehehe.  We have total control of the design and programming and direction that DF takes.
4794
4795{Reactions}
4796FoxLove (2) 
4797
4798[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] burneddi#8888
4799the new tileset system being Steam exclusive sounds pretty bad! Creates two divergent codebases, complicates things for dfhack modders. Me no likey. Hoping that's not final.
4800
4801[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] newveeplus#3297
4802Posting this here to pin -- if you have any questions about who we are, why DF is on Steam/itch, who is doing art and music, etc. Read the FAQ! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/preview?ts=5c786ef7/pubhtml
4803
4804{Embed}
4805https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/preview?ts=5c786ef7/pubhtml
4806Dwarf Fortress on Steam FAQ
4807Dwarf Fortress on Steam & itch.io FAQ  What is Dwarf Fortress??? The deepest, most intricate simulation of a world that’s ever been created, and one of the most astounding games of all time! You can read more on the Steam Coming Soon page here, the itch.io page here, or the...
4808https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/T4_uD-z1_tiQVFtNyJdyqkUtYsG02RwKr2iQbX5bPTHpvbsDbddjdOAfMNjlbw0NIySDEw=w1200-h630-p
4809
4810{Reactions}
4811FoxLove 
4812
4813[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] newveeplus#3297
4814Pinned a message.
4815
4816[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Meph#6451
4817@Ryukan Hi.
4818
4819[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4820@MoonyTheDwarf Yeah, proton has done wonders for a lot of games. I'm honestly surprised at how well it works.
4821
4822[13-Mar-19 01:07 PM] Cruxador#9109
4823@Meph That's the opposite of what you said less than three minutes ago
4824
4825[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Ryukan#0001
4826@Meph Howdy there, long time no see :p
4827
4828[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
4829And in one fell swoop kitfox has gone from one of my favorite publishers to my absolute favorite ever until the heat death of the universe
4830
4831{Reactions}
4832fervor 
4833
4834[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4835Proton is literally Windows NT reimplemented as a compat layer using syscall hook magic and kernel tinkering
4836
4837[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4838so yea
4839
4840[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Qvatch#0476
4841@Meph its a q of if we can impliment a similar level of detail in graphics mods without the steam version
4842
4843[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4844so am i :P
4845
4846[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Wolf#6582
4847You had me there in the first half @Dubbeleh
4848
4849[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] shitidontknow#3666
4850@Meph  if creatures appear larger than one tile but interact like one tile, that mean sa 2x2 sprite will have no problem  going through a one tile door?
4851
4852[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Wolf#6582
4853I was ready to throw hands
4854
4855[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
4856nobody better grab anyone else's mod! no mod stealing! if you want to post a mod to Steam Workshop, it must be your own work and you must consent to letting it be on Steam
4857
4858{Reactions}
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4860
4861[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Tubles#1981
4862@newveeplus You might want to edit the link to be the view-only version so it loads quicker/looks cleaner: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xwhi1KKp5QD9R4-euZ0JqRB0vHdNPqdBJXjIgp-yYHA/preview?ts=5c786ef7/pubhtml
4863
4864[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4865@Cruxador  what? No he didnt
4866
4867[13-Mar-19 01:08 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4868I've never gotten wine to work very well for gaming, but I think that's because of the messy dependency issues.
4869
4870[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Tarn#6100
4871@hioiiiiiiiiiiii the books shift values in the general case, but stuff that gets sold from your fortress has always been dumped into limbo...  but artifacts aren't.  however, it would need to get to a library.  libraries currently set up quests for books they don't have, but it's not something you can control.  so I doubt this'll be satisfying until at the earliest we do something more directed w/ embark scenarios say
4872
4873[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] newveeplus#3297
4874weh
4875
4876[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] newveeplus#3297
4877too late
4878
4879[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] newveeplus#3297
4880it's still view only isn't it
4881
4882[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Meph#6451
4883@Cruxador The steam version will have the underlying system that support the graphics, and the graphics. The free DF version will have neither of those.
4884
4885[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Meph#6451
4886Sorry if I was a bit unclear.
4887
4888[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4889DF HD?
4890
4891[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4892I mean virtually it is.
4893
4894[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4895The second and last plug you'll see from me
4896http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171799.0
4897
4898[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
4899That is all
4900
4901[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Tarn#6100
4902@Nostromo awesome!  best of luck with your studies
4903
4904[13-Mar-19 01:09 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
4905@Wolf no ? ? only :FoxLove:
4906
4907[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4908the lack of the new graphics system on the main version scares me tho, @Tarn 
4909Handling divergent codebases is very hard with assembly hacking
4910
4911[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Meph#6451
4912@Tanya_KitfoxGames It's actually done a lot. People abandon mods, others pick them up and port them. It's perfectly normal.
4913
4914[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4915the assembly internals of the game could change massively with this
4916
4917[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Ryukan#0001
4918@Tanya_KitfoxGames
4919
4920[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Ryukan#0001
4921Yeah
4922
4923[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Ryukan#0001
4924It's kinda not possible to ask for permisison
4925
4926[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Cruxador#9109
4927@Meph Then, will it be possible to make a mod that equally supports both (with only one release) but just only shows the advanced graphical features in the paid version?
4928
4929[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] cuffy#8115
4930@ThreeToe @Tarn will anything happen to the modding community on bay12 when the steam release is done? will players still be able to change around tilesets & graphic sets and modify the game as freely as they can right now in the future free version? will the steam release then just be a purely "cosmetic" premium version of the game that features an exclusive set of graphics and sounds?
4931
4932[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] Ryukan#0001
4933Mods get abandoned and picked up by new peeps all the time
4934
4935[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] cuffy#8115
4936throwin this to @Meph and @Mayday too
4937
4938[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
4939@MoonyTheDwarf it might be optimal to open a steam and itch modding sub-board to keep these things centralised on the forums.
4940
4941[13-Mar-19 01:10 PM] MeriMayhem#7362
4942@Tarn  or @Meph , for custom tilesets is there going to be a new standard for the Steam version and using Steam Workshop for publishing, or will we able publish our custom tilesets as they are now?
4943
4944[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Tarn#6100
4945@Untrustedlife ha ha ha, we haven't drawn anything at that level of detail yet, and it's a tall order to build them up pixel by pixel.  I was just talking about basic coloration/styles
4946
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4948? 
4949
4950[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Tubles#1981
4951@newveeplus It tries to load the "full" page (still any edit restrictions you've placed are intact), fails due to too much traffic, and switches over to the pub page. You can edit your message and it will reflect in the pin.
4952
4953[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4954Ahh okay
4955
4956[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Meph#6451
4957@Cruxador yes. The raws and everything else you need for mods are identical between the two versions. So your mod will run on both, but if you want it to look nice on Steam, you need to make fitting sprites.
4958
4959[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] BlueJello#0002
4960isn't the changes implemented for the official graphic tiles available for others to use?
4961
4962[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4963Thanks for the answer
4964
4965[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4966tbf i dont participate in DFHack, but i do know how insanely drastic even small changes can cause to a codebase once it's compiled
4967
4968[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
4969bless, okay ❤ Thanks @Tubles (I don't know WHY I said it was too late when I know things can be edited sigh)
4970
4971{Reactions}
4972? 
4973
4974[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4975Wait, assembly? Is DF written in assembly?
4976
4977[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Heretic#9491
4978Another big question, mostly to @Mala ... Will armok vision work fine with next versions after some time to deal with problems?
4979
4980[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4981no
4982
4983[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] Tarn#6100
4984@Major Tom progress on worldgen has been..  slow the last few weeks, ha ha ha.  looking forward to getting back into kidnapping and starting wars when I return from SF
4985
4986[13-Mar-19 01:11 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4987@Twinklebreeze Asssembly is the final result of compiling the game
4988
4989[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
4990Ah, got it.
4991
4992[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
4993when working on DFHack or other memory editing tools, it works directly with the compiled assembly code
4994
4995[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
4996@Twinklebreeze  its written in c++ if I recall
4997
4998[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Kn0ss0s#7895
4999The problem isn't the code, I thought. It is the memory locations for various variables.
5000
5001[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Heretic#9491
5002And it based on DFHack.
5003
5004[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Meph#6451
5005@cuffy Tough question. Free DF and paid DF can run the same mods, but legally you shouldn't use the assets (sprites) from the paid DF in a free DF mod.
5006
5007[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Mala#7349
5008@Heretic don't see why not
5009
5010[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Major Tom#3438
5011@Tarn thanks for the answer! I hope that you meant kidnapping and starting wars in dwarf fortress ?
5012
5013[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Cruxador#9109
5014@Tanya_KitfoxGames With all due respect, that's some bullshit. People should be able to include any work they have permission to use, regardless of if they made it all from scratch or if it's collaborative.
5015
5016[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5017Woo!
5018
5019[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Heretic#9491
5020So same question with @MoonyTheDwarf
5021
5022[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Kn0ss0s#7895
5023So I am not sure that would make such a big difference.
5024
5025[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] ThreeToe#2757
5026@cuffy The way that DF Classic modding works will be unchanged and include the new features that the Steam/itch allow to be modded.  Steam modding will work separately
5027
5028[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Cruxador#9109
5029@Meph, thanks
5030
5031[13-Mar-19 01:12 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5032@Twinklebreeze  all code is changed into assembly by compilers, thats what they meant
5033
5034[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] Meph#6451
5035@MeriMayhem you can make custom tilesets for the steam version. ?
5036
5037[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] Satoru#3036
5038@Cruxador i think she kinda made it clear that 'stealin'g the work wasnt appropriate. if its approved by the original author thats fine
5039
5040[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] Major Tom#3438
5041@Meph are there anything planned for artifact graphics?
5042
5043[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] Tarn#6100
5044@FantasticDorf multitile creatures?  for this one we're just talking about a little spill over into adjacent tiles, but mechanically it's the same.  if you mean the future...  I'm not sure what we'll end up doing, if we can pull that off.
5045
5046[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5047@Meph That's for redistribution right? So you could still make a mod that runs on both versions but requires people to own the paid version in order to use the assets? Kinda like the missing textures in custom Source Engine maps if you don't have CS:S (RE: tough question)
5048
5049[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] Heretic#9491
5050@Mala - cause of binary diffirences between versions
5051
5052[13-Mar-19 01:13 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5053I misunderstood the original statements, meph helped clear it up for me but ty for the reply Tarn.
5054
5055[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] Heretic#9491
5056you always will have two absolutely different version
5057
5058[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] Heretic#9491
5059on binary level
5060
5061[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] Mala#7349
5062DFHack already supports 6 DF versions at once
5063
5064[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] Tarn#6100
5065@ToadDude thanks!  I'm glad you've had some fun with it
5066
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5070[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] shitidontknow#3666
5071@Meph  similar to the animated sprites question- How about simpler things like showing the back of a dwarf it it's walking up (on screen), or some way of showing which direction creatures are looking/facing/moving?
5072
5073[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] Mala#7349
5074We dont know if the steam version will use a different exe
5075
5076[13-Mar-19 01:14 PM] dwarfy11#9638
5077I'm just confused as to how the z-levels are going to be displayed. The screenshots didn't give any hints :p
5078
5079[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5080@Mala it already has been confirmed the steam version renderer and the classic version renderer are different
5081
5082[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] mount2010#9649
5083Aaaaa! It's a Tarn! In person! Very sorry, nothing real to contribute, but aaaa!
5084
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5088[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5089All these peeps going cold turkey without DF hack for the steam release should be entertaining.
5090
5091[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Heretic#9491
5092@Mala  i has thinking that different versions of dffhack works fine with different versions of DF
5093
5094[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Meph#6451
5095@Cruxador I'll handle mod support stuff. Tanya isn't super up to date with how the DF community handles mods.
5096
5097[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Heretic#9491
5098and not "one with all"
5099
5100[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] molmol#5708
5101I thought DFHack users was a joke and not a real thing
5102
5103[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Tarn#6100
5104@Sethatos If there were any difficult legal hurdles, I haven't experienced them.  Our arrangement with Kitfox is pretty straightforward, and they're handling talks with Steam etc.
5105
5106[13-Mar-19 01:15 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5107DFhack is nice for the built in therapist. No need to tab out of the game ever.
5108
5109[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Meph#6451
5110@Major Tom Not yet. I made a mental note, but first are FBs and demons. Procedual stuff is hard. ^^
5111
5112[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5113DFHack is nice for the built in _everything_
5114
5115[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5116even the small UI tweaks are a godsend
5117
5118[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Mala#7349
5119DFHack adds a lot of nice QoL things
5120
5121[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Tarn#6100
5122@shitidontknow no animal people changes I recall for this time...  one of those things that seems to slip a lot
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5126
5127[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Ryukan#0001
5128@Meph So mods *are* allowed to be moved from Bay12 to Steam if the OC is AWOL?
5129
5130[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Kn0ss0s#7895
5131I mainly use DFHack to guarantee that my embark will have iron.
5132
5133[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5134I always play without df hack so ?
5135
5136[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Paki#0200
5137Will Therapist and DF hack work with steam version?
5138
5139[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Qvatch#0476
5140ryukan, prob needs mention of a liscence somewhere
5141
5142[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
5143@Tarn how long has dwarf fortress been you full time project?
5144
5145[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] pineapple#6455
5146Agreed about dfhack UI changes. I use dfhack pretty much exclusively for UI improvements especially to navigating lists
5147
5148[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
5149i think ilike 20 years @TheMightyWashburn
5150
5151[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Major Tom#3438
5152@Meph thanks for all the answers!
5153
5154[13-Mar-19 01:16 PM] Mala#7349
5155I don't think uploading other people's mods to the workshop will be kosher
5156
5157[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5158since 2006 @TheMightyWashburn
5159
5160[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
5161maybe longer
5162
5163[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] clinodev#7030
5164@Heretic Vast swaths of people have never played without the DFHack bugfixes.
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5169[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Meph#6451
5170@shitidontknow Not planned atm. But it's a great point and I'll bring it up with Tarn
5171
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5174
5175[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5176@pineapple yeah like some lists can't be filtered without DFHack
5177
5178[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] ThreeToe#2757
5179@TheMightyWashburn Tarn has been working on DF full-time for 12 years
5180
5181[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5182its been in development longer then that though, just not full time
5183
5184[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Ryukan#0001
5185Yeah, DFHack is kind of required for a good chunk of the community
5186
5187[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Heretic#9491
5188if @Tarn  thinks same as you, @molmol , it' terrific for all utilites ?
5189
5190[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Qvatch#0476
5191dfhack: for when you want more than 20 dwarves or 100 things
5192
5193[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Ryukan#0001
5194^
5195
5196[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Tarn#6100
5197@crocatowa yeah, classic still gets all the game features
5198
5199[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
5200@ThreeToe thank you. Best wishes
5201
5202[13-Mar-19 01:17 PM] Михаил-из-Коломны#1516
5203Will TWBT continue to be developed after the release of the "new" version of DF?
5204
5205[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Михаил-из-Коломны#1516
5206Hello/
5207
5208[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5209@Meph in regards to statues and the little discussion that was had on the 'Upcoming announcement thread' on the DF forums are there any modular or unique statue sprites at present?
5210
5211[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5212@Qvatch  i disagree, runs fine without df hack on my computer with 100 dwarves
5213
5214[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] dwarfy11#9638
5215Rather than call it DF Classic, why not just call the new one DF Graphical or something
5216
5217[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Satoru#3036
5218"Available: time is subjective" oh devs how you troll us even on the steam page ?
5219
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5223[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Qvatch#0476
5224@Untrustedlife it runs fine, but finding things is basically impossible. You have to manually go through dwarves
5225
5226[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Tarn#6100
5227@Carbolemons I don't have plans for a sweeping multithreading rewrite.  I have some microthreading stuff that people have sent me that might be promising for certain cases
5228
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5232[13-Mar-19 01:18 PM] Ryukan#0001
5233Yeah, I feel uncomfortable with the name change to DF Classic
5234
5235[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Ryukan#0001
5236It implies a divergence in the future
5237
5238[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5239@Qvatch  i disagree with that aswell, i guess 'ive just been playing df for so long that i dont have issues
5240
5241[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Major Tom#3438
5242@Михаил-из-Коломны there will be steam workshop so i think twbt will be there
5243
5244[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Carbolemons#0001
5245? thank you for the response!
5246
5247[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] molmol#5708
5248@Tarn Are there any plans to make above ground construction a bit less tedious?
5249
5250[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Meph#6451
5251@Ryukan I honestly don't know if Steam itself will have issues with that, but you can be sure that I'll do my best to make everything as Bay12-ish as possible. If the original author is gone, I would assume it's fine to post it. That being said, I do have to double check that with Steam.
5252
5253[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Ryukan#0001
5254K
5255
5256[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Qvatch#0476
5257@Untrustedlife I've played forever as well. I used to cap at 20-50 dwarves so I could find the ones I wanted.
5258
5259[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Ryukan#0001
5260thx
5261
5262[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] Eli#3642
5263i bet a lot of people allready asked this... but will the Therapist work on steam version?
5264
5265[13-Mar-19 01:19 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5266yeah it should as long as DFhack is easily ported
5267
5268[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
5269therapist is the only essential thing imo, everything else is gravy lol
5270
5271[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5272which is a matter of different binaries
5273
5274[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5275> fully dependent on whether the exe is the same
5276
5277[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5278i wouldn't call it essential, i dont use it lol
5279
5280[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Tarn#6100
5281@catoblepas respecting uniforms etc. for identity was one of the things we didn't get to with agents initially, but we'd like to get to stuff like that.  we've had that terrible guard uniform code for like 10 years or something, but I'm not sure that's even used in towns anymore
5282
5283[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Meph#6451
5284@FantasticFwoosh Statues can show way too much things, same with engravings. Not possible to show it correctly. Then again my own TWBT tileset has 256 statues, so maybe we find some compromise.
5285
5286[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Major Tom#3438
5287@Meph wanted to ask masterwork related question. Should we expect to see return of warlocks and other fun races?
5288
5289[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] mount2010#9649
5290So Steam DF would be the exact same as Classic, but with tiles and music and all kinds of hijinks?
5291
5292[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5293does it have to be the same? @FantasticFwoosh 
5294Can't you just rebuild DFHack with the memory mapping of each version?
5295
5296[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
5297@Tanya_KitfoxGames Since you seem to be keen on working with close teams of dedicated game makers have you considered approaching the Trese Brothers?
5298
5299[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Mala#7349
5300@Tarn Will the steam and classic versions use the same executable, or will there be binary differences?
5301
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5305[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Ryukan#0001
5306@Tarn Any plans for adding Achievements to the Steam version?
5307
5308[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Tubles#1981
5309There's going to be a different renderer. I don't see it being the same exe. I'd imagine all the memory hook utils will have to be branched as well
5310
5311[13-Mar-19 01:20 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5312@mount2010  yepparoonie
5313
5314[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5315I want a mod for dying wax stuff, they near worthless.
5316
5317[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Qvatch#0476
5318@Untrustedlife do you choose people for your military that have an acceptable mental state?
5319
5320[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Meph#6451
5321@Major Tom  First there'll be a graphical steam MasterworkDF release.
5322
5323[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5324@Qvatch  sometimes
5325
5326[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Meph#6451
5327@mount2010 yes
5328
5329[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5330That is very true, i wouldn't demand 200, million screaming axlotl's but definitely most statues have a most prominent feature that's usually first to be quipped in the description.
5331
5332[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Major Tom#3438
5333Nice to hear that
5334
5335[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5336Like even if the renderer changes, as long as the internals remain untouched the only branching I can imagine is having two different memory layouts. But the code is still going to reference the same objects
5337
5338[13-Mar-19 01:21 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5339other times i just like "welp these guys are millitary now"
5340
5341[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] clinodev#7030
5342A lot of these questions depend on utility writers who aren't in here as far as I know.
5343
5344[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Qvatch#0476
5345and I find the latter is more common when you have too many to bother checking through them
5346
5347[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Heretic#9491
5348Masterwork will be DLC?
5349
5350[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Qvatch#0476
5351you loose a lot of detail when you go to large numbers if you don't have some sort of search
5352
5353[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Satoru#3036
5354@Meph well just remember steam's handy 'beta' channels so you can maintain older versions of the game for all the modders
5355
5356[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5357I am very good at parsing walls of text
5358
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5362[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5363@Qvatch
5364
5365[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5366Maybe just from years and years of programming
5367
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5370
5371[13-Mar-19 01:22 PM] Lonjil#0666
5372Will any new graphics and UI APIs in the game needed for the steeam version also be available in Classic for modders?
5373
5374[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Namenlos#1326
5375sooo when are those mounts coming
5376
5377[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] wugawuga#0750
5378Question about world map/world gen: will these be getting a new graphical tileset/rendering that is cohesive?
5379
5380[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Qvatch#0476
5381ok, I dont doubt you can do it manually; I just can't make myself do it or remember it when it gets to more than about 20
5382
5383[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Михаил-из-Коломны#1516
5384It's strange that there are no mifki in team.
5385
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5389[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Heretic#9491
5390@Lonjil they will
5391
5392[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Meph#6451
5393@Satoru luckily porting mods is easy from one DF version to the next. The only issue arises once they use Dfhack, a third-party tool. It needs time to update for each new release.
5394
5395[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Ibis#6798
5396Are mounts coming to fort mode too?
5397
5398[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5399I can even parse out monochromatic walls of text
5400
5401[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
5402The only proper dwarven mount is a mount*ain*
5403
5404[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Heretic#9491
5405look at post on patreon
5406
5407[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5408for info i need
5409
5410[13-Mar-19 01:23 PM] Tarn#6100
5411@Officer Rich Stretchowski I'm not sure how workshop traditionally handles conflicts, but we were thinking of handling some of it in-game where we can, so it can just turn one of them off and alert you about it on screen.  I like the idea of adding modding help, though we'll be swamped with adding regular help for now
5412
5413[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] newveeplus#3297
5414HEY DEVS DONT FORGET TO EAT - brought to you by someone who is just now eating
5415
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5418
5419[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5420I dont know why, i just can
5421
5422[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5423and hydrate
5424
5425[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Meph#6451
5426@Lonjil Nope, only on the steam version. Free DF tilesets will still rely on TWBT
5427
5428[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Qvatch#0476
5429monochromatic monospaced :)
5430
5431[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5432yessir
5433
5434[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] newveeplus#3297
5435yes hydrate too
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5440[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Lonjil#0666
5441ok ty meph
5442
5443[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Cruxador#9109
5444@Meph Free DF tilesets do not currently rely on TWBT
5445
5446[13-Mar-19 01:24 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5447I suppose that makes me weird
5448
5449[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] zeb#2885
5450So I heard that Steam Workshop is going to be a thing. What about DFFD?
5451
5452[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5453i wouldnt say an ability like that is common
5454
5455[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
5456and at some point this week, at least consider going to sleep
5457
5458[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Satoru#3036
5459@Meph yeah but given pepole LOVE Dfhack having the old verison will make them happy rather than updates just constanatly breaking the game for them. just an fyi. i mean games like CK2 have nearly 3 dozens versions on steam so dont be shy about it ?
5460
5461[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] BlevRuz#8314
5462Excited for the Steam release ! Will the sound implementation make it into the normal build, even if the UI APIs do not ?
5463
5464[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Tubles#1981
5465Anyone have a highlights list of things that've changed since 40d? >_>
5466It... it's been awhile.
5467
5468[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Mala#7349
5469@Meph that's dissapointing. I'd have assumed that the only difference would be the classic version not coming packaged with any graphic packs
5470
5471[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Meph#6451
5472Speaking of workshops: Little preview anyone? https://i.imgur.com/S55xTty.png
5473
5474{Embed}
5475https://imgur.com/S55xTty
5476https://i.imgur.com/S55xTty.png
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5481[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] shitidontknow#3666
5482@Meph @Mayday  I'm a big fan of the dead goblin laying on it's side in those preview images.  dead things laying down is something I've been wanting, it'll go a long way to differentiate dead/living/undead
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5487[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5488@Tubles  too many things to list
5489
5490[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] BlueJello#0002
5491the patreon post says the graphical changes for the steam version will be in the classic version for modders to make use of
5492
5493[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Destragon#8720
5494yeah
5495
5496[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
5497That's some ? art
5498
5499[13-Mar-19 01:25 PM] Meph#6451
5500@Cruxador The ones that use more than 256 sprites do.
5501
5502[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Mayday#1280
5503Hmmm, maybe I'll post something too
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5508[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5509@Heretic unlikely, it'd have to be built up from scratch due to multiple mods involved and also it'd probably be more fun as a subscription mod on workshop. (and of course work out DFhack compatability)
5510
5511[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
5512Almost every comment on /r/games are preemptively bitching about the UI. Sigh
5513
5514[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Tarn#6100
5515@MoonyTheDwarf I doubt the API will be that clean at first.   The usual code will still be released over with linux classic, but I'm not sure how that'll tie into these changes yet, since they plug into way more objects.
5516
5517[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Destragon#8720
5518will graphical transparency be in the free version or not?
5519
5520[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Heretic#9491
5521@Tarn  question for you... how many peoples at the moment added DF to wishlist?
5522
5523[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] zeb#2885
5524hang on... the steam version doesn't even ship with dfhack?
5525
5526[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] BlevRuz#8314
5527That's some nice QOL improvements !
5528
5529[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5530I did for sure.
5531
5532[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Enemy post#7314
5533I did.
5534
5535[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Tubles#1981
5536@Untrustedlife I mean not like to dump in here on the fly. I just figure there's something out there, yknow~
5537
5538[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Meph#6451
5539@Satoru Oh, ok then. ? Thanks for the heads up.
5540
5541[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Heretic#9491
5542I'm and all my friends that playing df already did.
5543
5544[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Dubbeleh#7778
5545What about Dwarf Therapist? Any word on that?
5546
5547[13-Mar-19 01:26 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5548@Tubles  not really, your closest bet would be the dev page, or the page that describes df on the website
5549
5550[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] zeb#2885
5551No therapist and no dfhack... then sorry, no sale. Best of luck though.
5552
5553[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Mayday#1280
5554here's a forge! We had a few back and forth mutual edits with Meph on this one
5555
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5557https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555404726817259580/555441773023985679/unknown.png
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5562[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5563The game does come with a changes text file but im not sure what all is in there
5564
5565[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Satoru#3036
5566@zeb i mean dfhack just has to adjust to the steam release, which shouldnt be that hard given the code base isnt that divergent
5567
5568[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Mala#7349
5569@zeb they'll likely be workshop items
5570
5571[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Major Tom#3438
5572Man these graphics are so cool
5573
5574[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] zeb#2885
5575Bay12 and Meph will still be getting support the old fashioned way
5576
5577[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Cody#7177
5578@Tarn Why did you decide to publish with Kitfox Games instead of self publishing?
5579
5580[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Tubles#1981
5581Yikes. That's why I was hoping for highlights
5582
5583[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Cody#7177
5584oh my god @Mayday you're in on this too? I love your tileset
5585
5586[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] mount2010#9649
5587***if*** a ui overhaul comes, will it apply to **both** classic and paid df? given tarn works on it.
5588
5589[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] crocatowa#9356
5590@Mayday Will the colors of buildings still change based on the construction materials?
5591
5592[13-Mar-19 01:27 PM] Meph#6451
5593@BlueJello ... I'm... have I been spreading false information around? Oh oh.
5594
5595[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Arimel The Wise#8149
5596@zeb you should be able to use both with the steam dwarf fortress it just might not be on the steam workshop
5597
5598[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] newveeplus#3297
5599@Cody its in the pinned faq :3
5600
5601[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] fishfosh#3824
5602those workshops look very nice
5603
5604[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Officer Rich Stretchowski#1458
5605cool, thanks for the response toady. i'd be willing to potentially write some basic modding tutorials and put them up on the steam version's community pages whenever thats out (and whenever im done with my own current projects) if you think it'd be of use. provided of course the villains update doesnt change too much in the way of raws.
5606
5607[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] zeb#2885
5608@Mala you mean DFFD items. Steam is going to fragment the community
5609
5610[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] mount2010#9649
5611i speak as someone who unfortunately wont be able to pay for df.
5612
5613[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Mayday#1280
5614@crocatowa currently that's up in the air. I think it's not a feature for the first release
5615
5616[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Tarn#6100
5617@MoonyTheDwarf re: divergence, funnily, it all still flows from legacy, so it ends up being less divergent than it might seem, and ascii SDL version is likely to use the new graphics stuff but just...  look like ascii, in the same way that I've been mimicking ascii with opengl for years
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5622[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5623@Tubles  its much closer to his vision then it was in 40d ill just say that
5624
5625[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] burneddi#8888
5626if the Steam release has separate frameworks for tilesets that are absent in the free version it could be a big pain for the DFHack folks. They'd essentially need to maintain two separate versions, one for Steam/itch and one for the free version.
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5630
5631[13-Mar-19 01:28 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5632Alright, sounds good then
5633
5634[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Major Tom#3438
5635Cant wait to see graphical myth and magic version of dwarf fortress :p
5636
5637[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] crocatowa#9356
5638@Mayday 
5639So... Broken and unplayable due to loss of immersion, got it
5640?
5641
5642[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] TheMightyWashburn#8927
5643Lol the game is recommended by the curator pixel booty
5644
5645[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] cuffy#8115
5646@Tarn @ThreeToe is the patreon still going to be up after the steam release?
5647
5648[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] BlevRuz#8314
5649Will there be a legend viewer analog in there ?
5650
5651[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] zeb#2885
5652Just whatever you do, please don't split the community. Keep Steam workshop and DFFD concurrent with each other
5653
5654[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Meph#6451
5655@Tanya_KitfoxGames will the back-end changes that enable the new sprites be in the free DF too? (Now I have to ask too^^) Can people do their own extensive 5000 sprite tilesets using the new ways to make ramps, etc?
5656
5657[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Satoru#3036
5658@crocatowa ITS NOT ASCII ENOUGH! ?
5659
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5661? 
5662
5663[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Cruxador#9109
5664@burneddi Meph confirmed that this is how it works.
5665
5666[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5667@Major Tom  oh jeez that will be insane with all the procedural creatures
5668
5669[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Mala#7349
5670@zeb that's up to modders
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5674
5675[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Major Tom#3438
5676Ikr
5677
5678[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5679@cuffy  yep it will
5680
5681[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] burneddi#8888
5682alright, sweet. Sounds all good then.
5683
5684[13-Mar-19 01:29 PM] Major Tom#3438
5685Also procedural magic too
5686
5687[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] BlueJello#0002
5688I suppose a lot of the questions from a modding perspective is how different the codebase will be between the steam version and the classic version
5689
5690[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5691@Meph There's legality in that, they can't cross over.
5692
5693[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Mayday#1280
5694@crocatowa  wait till you see that 900 year old trolls don't turn white! now THAT'S what I call gamebreaking
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5699[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5700@BlueJello already been asked, not much
5701
5702[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5703just some graphics changes
5704
5705[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Tarn#6100
5706@cuffy yeah, it's pretty much as you say with steam vs. modders and graphics.  steam is easy to use and doesn't require, like, extracting from the zip folder etc., but modders over on classic will still be able to do a lot of the same stuff
5707
5708[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] burneddi#8888
5709oh wait @Cruxador I misread that as "this is not how it works"... Guess my brain wanted to reject this horrible prospect!
5710
5711[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] BlueZest#9442
5712Holy Banana Cactuses. Its the big ol' DF dudes themselves. Aie Caramba. Thank you for launching my twitch career with your epic game xD; ❤ ❤ ❤ <3.  Hope to send you more money soon. (cause you guys deserve all the donations) I will now go hide in the bushes.
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5716
5717[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Михаил-из-Коломны#1516
5718Oh, thanks.
5719
5720[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Namenlos#1326
5721How will this graphic set be different from just playing with a tileset?
5722
5723[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
5724Oh look its a wild putnam too.
5725
5726[13-Mar-19 01:30 PM] Putnam#0852
5727The solutions to mod merging suggestion I made a week ago seems silly now
5728
5729[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5730I would also like to see a full-fledged 1-bit tileset in the future in order to keep that ASCII aesthetic. There aren't many 1-bit tilesets out there ?
5731
5732[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Meph#6451
5733@Cruxador Yeah, but now I'm unsure myself. I only talked with Tanya once about that.
5734
5735[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5736@Mayday  i dunno if thats something to joke about really, its my opinion that the games complexity should come out in its sprites
5737
5738[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Cruxador#9109
5739@FantasticFwoosh That's  not necessarily true. It depends on Steam's contract, but it sounds like Steam is pretty permissive.
5740
5741[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Mayday#1280
5742@Namenlos there will be lots of new graphics and UI related features compared to the current DF
5743
5744[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5745which is why ill still play ascii on the steam version
5746
5747[13-Mar-19 01:31 PM] RainFrogs#7863
5748@Tarn are there any planned changes to push new players to a lower impact world/fortress setting?  I know a lot of people have a hard time understanding why their PC struggles to run 2D games
5749
5750[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Mala#7349
5751@Namenlos there's changes being made to DF to better support graphics in general
5752
5753[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Tarn#6100
5754@MeriMayhem I'm not sure what Workshop is typically like, but the tilesets will all use the same format, using txt files as they do now, but with a lot more capabilities.  We'll probably move some files around so that saves don't always have to copy all of the graphics like they do now (as that'll get really storage heavy), so there'll be some hiccups for mods as usually at first, but it should settle in to a format usable everywhere
5755
5756[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Михаил-из-Коломны#1516
5757Is this not final version of graphics in trailer?
5758
5759[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Aperion#9662
5760With the auto update, will the save game info and game data be seperated?
5761
5762[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Mala#7349
5763@Михаил-из-Коломны those are mockups
5764
5765[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Mayday#1280
5766@Untrustedlife  sure, but we need to prioritise! First get the basic graphics for everything and then worry about complexity (while balancing it with coherence, readability, style etc.!) 100% reflection of raws is definitely impossible
5767
5768[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Meph#6451
5769@Михаил-из-Коломны hey there ? No, it's work in progress.
5770
5771[13-Mar-19 01:32 PM] Putnam#0852
5772how does the workshop handle multiple mods being installed?
5773
5774[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Namenlos#1326
5775how heavy will these graphics be for the PC considering the complexity of DF?
5776
5777[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Qvatch#0476
5778or mods differeing between different saves
5779
5780[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Satoru#3036
5781@Putnam functionally the worksthop is just 'download files' the game itself really has to handle wha tmods get installed and how and in what order
5782
5783[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Putnam#0852
5784Oh
5785
5786[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5787@Mayday  i understand, you guys do what you gotta do its not important to most people ?
5788
5789[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5790@Namenlos probably irrelevant
5791
5792[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5793@Namenlos very low, as per usual
5794
5795[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Meph#6451
5796@Putnam Same as DFFD.
5797
5798[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
5799nowhere near the weight of DF itself
5800
5801[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] zeb#2885
5802Will Gaben get salty if people extract workshop content and distribute it independently?
5803
5804[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] mount2010#9649
5805im not sure how steam works, so: would the game be giftable like other games? also, all OSes vanilla DF already supports?
5806
5807[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] shitidontknow#3666
5808@Asin (Birthday next month) will you make the weefolk mod available with these sweet graphics?
5809
5810[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] BlueZest#9442
5811So uh. Yea I do stream tutorials for DF if anyone has friends they want to get into the game. I seriously believe the game isnt THAT hard to learn and i just need to get them to remember the first basics. ❤
5812
5813[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
5814giftable yes!
5815
5816[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] Mala#7349
5817I imagine the game might need a better way to differentiate mod packs from each other
5818
5819[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
5820holy shiiiit! Kitfox publishing dwarf fortress, awesome!
5821
5822[13-Mar-19 01:33 PM] newveeplus#3297
5823dont forget our AMA on Reddit is tmr! (pinned post)
5824
5825[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] newveeplus#3297
5826yasss
5827
5828[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
5829perfect excuse to pick it up again
5830
5831[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
5832I havent played it in at least a year I think
5833
5834[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Putnam#0852
5835most mods modify entity_default so that might cause problems unless i'm misunderstanding
5836
5837[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Major Tom#3438
5838@Tarn what are your plans after the steam release of df? Will you go straight to myth generation and map rewrite or youll go into army battles? I know its probably hard to say right now but its just interesting to know your opinion
5839
5840[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Gamewizard#0580
5841Well I can see I joined at an active time ?
5842
5843[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
5844curious to see whats new
5845
5846[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Tarn#6100
5847@molmol re: constructions, I'm open to the suggestions people have made, just haven't gotten there as usual.  There'll be some changes for the initial steam release generally, especially at the top level main dwarf screen, but it's not decided yet exactly what's in and out for the first release.
5848
5849[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Meph#6451
5850@Tarn Stupid question: Free Df and Steam Df get the same underlying tileset support? Just the actual sprites are Steam DF exclusive, but tileset authors could do the same extensive tileset in free DF?
5851
5852[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Satoru#3036
5853@Mala mostly that's up to the game iteself to handle any mod conflicts. generally heavly mod games have in-game tools to manage what gets installed and in what order. Look at games such as Skyrim or hte old Dungeons of Dreadmor, or modern games like Stellaris
5854
5855[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Gamewizard#0580
5856Any ETA on the Steam release as I was about to make a donation as it's been years since I last sent one that way
5857
5858[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Qvatch#0476
5859@Meph threetoe and toady have both said the support for freeDF to use the new tileset engine features here: 1:12 PM] ThreeToe (Dwarf Fortress): @cuffy The way that DF Classic modding works will be unchanged and include the new features that the Steam/itch allow to be modded.  Steam modding will work separately.           and here: "and modders will also be able to utilize the new graphical capabilities you can see above in their own creations." on the patreon post
5860
5861[13-Mar-19 01:34 PM] Cody#7177
5862@Mayday what's your role in this whole thing? Are you part of the artwork for the steam version's graphics?
5863
5864[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
5865Hot damn, Tarn and Threetoe are here too! hello!
5866
5867[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
5868Hi
5869
5870[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] BlueZest#9442
5871@Meph I exclusively use your texture pack, Top notch.
5872
5873[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Namenlos#1326
5874Can we ask questions too on things not directly related to the DF release on steam and DF things in general=
5875
5876[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] mount2010#9649
5877*[y]ields*
5878
5879[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
5880Will DF on steam support custom tilesets
5881
5882[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Meph#6451
5883@Qvatch Damn. I didn't even knew that.
5884
5885[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Putnam#0852
5886obviously it will
5887
5888[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5889@Satoru heck even Rimworld has a simple priority system and IIRC it can detect conflicts
5890
5891[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Meph#6451
5892So...
5893
5894[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Meph#6451
5895ehm...
5896
5897[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Mayday#1280
5898@Cody yes, I try to keep watch of the general style and design many of the base graphics
5899
5900[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Meph#6451
5901brb, have 10000 sprites to do for a free set. Ciao.
5902
5903[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5904@Not4mortaleyes  i dont see why not!
5905
5906[13-Mar-19 01:35 PM] Mask#1378
5907Kitfox Games is publishing Dwarf Fortress!?!?!? Is this true?
5908
5909[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Putnam#0852
5910Graphic support on the steam version was earlier mentioned to use basically the same system as the current graphics, with the text files and all
5911
5912[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Major Tom#3438
5913@Meph bye! Thanks for being here and helping with the game!
5914
5915[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Pasakoye#3246
5916You can order shell and bone mugs on embark, but can not craft them.
5917
5918[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] BlevRuz#8314
5919Good luck devs !
5920
5921[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5922@Mask nah they all lied to us
5923
5924[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] mount2010#9649
5925yes, apparently. at least todays not april 1
5926
5927[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Cody#7177
5928that's so killer
5929I always suggest the Mayday pack to friends when I can
5930
5931[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5932@Meph  why would they need to be different?
5933
5934[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Ryukan#0001
5935Heh, @Meph time to assemble a task force to make a mega Tilepack for the Classic version ?
5936
5937[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5938If teh undelrying code is the same
5939
5940[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Major Tom#3438
5941Oh sorry i read brb as bb
5942
5943[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Satoru#3036
5944@G3Kappa yes but its not really part of the 'steam workshop'. like the workshop isnt a mod manager. its a mod downloader
5945
5946[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Meph#6451
5947@BlueZest thank you so much ?
5948
5949[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] BlueZest#9442
5950Man there needs to be more DF subchats. For general, graphics, mods, help, etc. One chat is Too little my dudes :blueze5t:
5951
5952[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] shitidontknow#3666
5953@Tarn @Meph  When a game is on steam will the raws be just as easy to mod on the fly? I mean like adding [WAR_TRAINABLE] to a creature type things.
5954
5955[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Cody#7177
5956I love the simplicity
5957
5958[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Meph#6451
5959@Ryukan you read my mind.
5960
5961[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Cruxador#9109
5962Adding on to what waterphage said, I just wanna confirm, people don't think that those ramps are good enough, right?
5963
5964[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] G3Kappa#4580
5965@Satoru yeah I was just agreeing with you
5966
5967[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Meph#6451
5968@shitidontknow yes
5969
5970[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
5971C ya @Meph  ?
5972
5973[13-Mar-19 01:36 PM] Tarn#6100
5974@Mala I haven't added achievements yet, so I'm assuming that will cause some binary differences?  Also, Kitfox splash stuff and a few other changes.  Amazingly, the SDL one just downloaded and played when I tested it, so the bulk of the code should be identical, though I don't know if that ends up people trying to hook stuff in.  The rendering should all be the same as classic sdl.
5975
5976[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] zeb#2885
5977Imagine getting VAC banned for modding trainable animals. It was inevitable.
5978
5979[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Qvatch#0476
5980I've always wanted to make a superASCII tilepack where we get the same sub-tile detail, but still using the ascii :)
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5985[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Mayday#1280
5986@Cody haha, yeah - this is an everlasting battle between me (simplicity and style) and Meph (richness, realism and completion)
5987
5988[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Mala#7349
5989Okay, so that means a separate steam version of DFHack then
5990
5991[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Ryukan#0001
5992I use Ironhand
5993
5994[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Satoru#3036
5995@zeb MULTIPLE GAME BANS FOR YOU!!! ?
5996
5997[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Mayday#1280
5998@Cody I think we're two different forces that balance each other very well for the sake of the project
5999
6000[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Ryukan#0001
6001:p
6002
6003[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
6004@shitidontknow
6005Wee folk mod with these graphics? Not a good spriter
6006
6007[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Putnam#0852
6008you'll need to implement some steam API stuff in the code for the achievements to be unlocked so yeah that causes binary differences
6009
6010[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] Cody#7177
6011I hope you come out on top @Mayday
6012
6013[13-Mar-19 01:37 PM] burneddi#8888
6014will the itch.io version require Steam too?
6015
6016[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6017@Mayday  Yin and Yang Meph and Mayday
6018
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6021
6022[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Tarn#6100
6023@Ryukan yeah, it's Steam, so achievements and cards and that sort of thing are all on the table.
6024
6025[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Mask#1378
6026It's been so long since I played DF.
6027
6028[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] zeb#2885
6029wait... ACHIEVEMENTS? oh my goodness
6030
6031[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Satoru#3036
6032@burneddi itch has its own distribution system so im guessing you just get the downloadable drm free version from itch just like most other game sthere
6033
6034[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6035@Tarn that answers my earlier question! Hype hype hype
6036
6037[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] BlaBla#5272
6038@Tarn any planned changes to the legend mode in the steam version?
6039
6040[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] Qvatch#0476
6041I've found the graphics packs to be too visually busy to figure out what's going on :) I keep having to pause and carefully look, it's weird. I haven't done graphics since 31, but I use the tilesets to teach people
6042
6043[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] BlueZest#9442
6044So if if i was to stream my tutorial streams, is there somewhere i could post in here? Or maybe not? ^^
6045
6046[13-Mar-19 01:38 PM] BlueZest#9442
6047for DF
6048
6049[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Putnam#0852
6050Of course this means someone might write a DF hack script to unlock all achievements or whatever, although it's not like steam achievements are particularly secure in the first place and you don't need to go through the all the effort when you can use a program to do it without even having to open the game
6051
6052[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] burneddi#8888
6053I've never used itch so I don't know, apparently they can also offer Steam keys? Either way, if it's different from the Steam version wouldn't that mean that there's now *three* different binaries?
6054
6055[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] burneddi#8888
6056Sounds like a pain!
6057
6058[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] mount2010#9649
6059*im glad meph and mayday are basically part of dwarf fortress's development team by now*
6060
6061[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6062it's not different i dont think
6063
6064[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Satoru#3036
6065@Putnam steam achievements arent really 'secure', you can alaready unlock anything you want with tools like SAM
6066
6067[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Putnam#0852
6068yeah like I said
6069
6070[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6071yep there's SAM
6072
6073[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Gamewizard#0580
6074So is it safe to assume the Linux version is going to be up on Steam as well?
6075
6076[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6077@Qvatch  i agree there, thats part of why i play exclusively in ascii, Phoebus was like my training wheels when i first started playing the game, then it was ascii all the way
6078
6079{Reactions}
6080FoxLove 
6081
6082[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] Cody#7177
6083that's why I like the Mayday pack @Qvatch it has minimum noise while having good immersion
6084
6085[13-Mar-19 01:39 PM] mount2010#9649
6086@Gamewizard tarn said earlier a "i dunno" according to reddit...
6087
6088[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Qvatch#0476
6089I use mayday to teach :)
6090
6091[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Tarn#6100
6092Heretic (won't let me use your username cuz it has "Here"!)  wishlists - I have no idea!  And Steam is sensitive about certain exact numbers, not sure if that's one of them
6093
6094[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Putnam#0852
6095This is really exciting by the way
6096
6097[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6098@Untrustedlife Color scheme? I'm a Taffer guy
6099
6100{Reactions}
6101FoxLove (2) 
6102
6103[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6104the default
6105
6106[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Eli#3642
6107a big THANK YOU!  to the devs an contributors for creating and constantly updating such a great piece of art! wish you all the best! byebye
6108
6109[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] Mayday#1280
6110@Tarn  you can tag Heretic no problem, it's a false warning
6111
6112[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] zeb#2885
6113Spacefox 4 life fite me. ?
6114
6115[13-Mar-19 01:40 PM] wugawuga#0750
6116Taffer's Dawnbringer for eye-friendly saturations and brightness ?
6117
6118[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] BlueZest#9442
6119Is there a Chat mod who can toss in a couple more channels for DF, y'all gonna need it
6120
6121{Reactions}
6122? (6) 
6123
6124[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Enemy post#7314
6125Matrix tileset for REAL MEN http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=60176.0
6126
6127[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Heretic#9491
6128@Tarn  thanks for answer!
6129
6130[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6131yeah there will need to be a fort mode channel and a adventur emode channel and a legends mode channe;l
6132
6133[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Qvatch#0476
6134CLA isn't too bad
6135
6136[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6137just like the unofficial discord
6138
6139[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Ryukan#0001
6140Is there an official DF Discord?
6141
6142[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Pasakoye#3246
6143Animal traps zooming and pausing when vermin escape / trap food is stolen might  annoy new players,  they won't know how to change it.
6144
6145[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6146probabbly anyway ?
6147
6148[13-Mar-19 01:41 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6149i mean, i doubt tarn's ever going to move to the main DF Discord server after the drama a few years ago, so a second channel (or third) would be advisable
6150
6151[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6152@Ryukan No, only an unofficial
6153
6154[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6155@Ryukan No
6156
6157[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6158@Enemy post hahah, I actually wanna try it
6159
6160[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] clinodev#7030
6161This is now the official DF discord.
6162
6163[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Ryukan#0001
6164We need an official one
6165
6166[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] mount2010#9649
6167the "official"
6168
6169[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Heretic#9491
6170from all Russian VK community of DF i wish you success!
6171
6172{Reactions}
6173? 
6174
6175[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Namenlos#1326
6176seems that this one is preddy much official
6177
6178[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6179Im curious to see the tileset and graphics for the steam version!
6180
6181[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Ryukan#0001
6182Like, dedicated to DF development and crap
6183
6184[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] mount2010#9649
6185waiting to see how DF takes over this server :P
6186
6187[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Ryukan#0001
6188Thats why
6189
6190[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6191@newveeplus  Will you add a dwarf mode subchannel and a adventure mode sub channel and a legends mode subchannel?
6192
6193[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] clinodev#7030
6194Official according to the publishers in their press packet.
6195
6196[13-Mar-19 01:42 PM] Spock#4233
6197Can't wait for DF to be released on steam! @Tarn I know a million people must ask this but here goes... any short term plans to address the UI in DF?
6198
6199[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] newveeplus#3297
6200yes! can do that when it releases @Untrustedlife
6201
6202[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Namenlos#1326
6203Oh, a DF discord would just kill the forums wouldn't it?
6204
6205[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6206Ahh cool
6207
6208[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Heretic#9491
6209Can we preorder steam version just now if we want?
6210
6211{Reactions}
6212❤ (3) 
6213
6214[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6215@Namenlos forums have forum games
6216
6217[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6218forum games are eternal
6219
6220[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6221@Namenlos That's been my experience with CDDA
6222
6223[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Ryukan#0001
6224@Namenlos nah, the forums are good for the Games
6225
6226[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Mask#1378
6227UI is something that was always on the backburner, it'd be amazing if the UI was mad user friendly.
6228
6229[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6230@Namenlos  reddit and discord have already had an impact on activity there
6231
6232[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] Ryukan#0001
6233I'm just asking for an official DF discord so we don't take over this place
6234
6235[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6236The UI has never been on the back burner
6237
6238[13-Mar-19 01:43 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6239^^^
6240
6241[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] clinodev#7030
6242lol
6243
6244[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Gamewizard#0580
6245Say the Subreddit is why I'm hardly on the forums anymore myself
6246
6247[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6248lets not steal the chat from all the other games here
6249
6250[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6251The UI has gotten incrimental improvements with every release
6252
6253[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] ThreeToe#2757
6254no pre-order but everyone should wishlist it
6255
6256[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Cody#7177
6257I find it funny that Adventure mode is called "Optional" on Steam.
6258
6259[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Qvatch#0476
6260@Tarn when converting the UI over, will you change any of the keybinds to be more consistant?
6261
6262[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Mayday#1280
6263@Mask I wouldn't count on it getting mad user friendly right off the bat, but there will be baby steps as soon as the first release
6264
6265[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Cruxador#9109
6266@Ryukan This will die down in time
6267
6268[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] zeb#2885
6269preordering has aready killed 34 in its thirst for murder. go to bay12 forums the bastion of holiness and donate if you seek to end this foul beast
6270
6271[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Major Tom#3438
6272Just make the unofficial discord the official one
6273
6274[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Tarn#6100
6275@Cody went with Kitfox for lots of reasons - for example, I'd never have been able to work out the contracting stuff with @Mayday and @Meph and they were also able to fund it for these months now where we need to work before the first release.  Most of the business-type stuff I was worried about over the years isn't an issue here, which is great
6276
6277[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6278@Cody  yeah i feel like it should be treated with equal importantness tbh
6279
6280[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] BlueZest#9442
6281Like I said, I'll be doing tutorials for anyone who needs them. ❤ I can bump them up to more times a week with the big announcement
6282
6283[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] Ryukan#0001
6284@Tarn Perhaps you should make a separate DF Discord for Development talk and general community stuff
6285
6286[13-Mar-19 01:44 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6287@Qvatch as much as this is needed I fear the day I'll have to remap my muscle memory
6288
6289{Reactions}
6290? 
6291
6292[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6293Unofficial discord is a memefest, probably not a good idea :P
6294
6295[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6296haha has anyone ever tried to mod controller support for Dwarf Fortress, it sounds like a nightmare to even design
6297
6298[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Ryukan#0001
6299Thats why its a good idea
6300
6301[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6302~~I used to moderate the place, it's a nightmare of a memefest~~
6303
6304[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Ryukan#0001
6305I dont wnat to join it because of the memefest
6306
6307[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Namenlos#1326
6308what's the "unnofficial discord" link?
6309
6310[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Ryukan#0001
6311we need a solid and official place
6312
6313[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] rethnor#1869
6314@Tarn I'm sure you've thought about it, what are your thoughts on open sourcing DF?
6315
6316[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Mask#1378
6317@AgentWigggles Really? I've been out of the loop for a while. I mostly remember the old blog posts about how he's focusing on the systems, and one day he would work hard to overhaul the UI.
6318
6319[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Mask#1378
6320@Mayday That's only fair. I look forward to it, and giving any feedback I can for UI.
6321
6322[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] Mayday#1280
6323@Cody I can confirm, @Tanya_KitfoxGames handles all the business and @Tarn handles all the "us pestering him for more GFX features"
6324
6325[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
6326So is steam version going to use a mod manager of sorts to handle playing different mods?
6327
6328[13-Mar-19 01:45 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6329@rethnor tl;dr if he dies of natural causes it goes open source
6330
6331[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Tarn#6100
6332@cuffy Yep, Patreon will still be up after the steam release.
6333
6334[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] rethnor#1869
6335@MoonyTheDwarf I thought that might be the case where was that mentioned?
6336
6337[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Meph#6451
6338@Tarn for your free DF I would have created the tileset for free. No need for contracting stuff. ;
6339
6340[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] zeb#2885
6341will we need to engrave a slab to determine cause of death?
6342
6343[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6344@Mask Every release for the (minus bug fi releases) have ui incremental improvements
6345
6346[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6347@Untrustedlife wouldnt PMs  be better..
6348
6349[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6350but honestly things SHOULD be migrated here
6351
6352[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Gamewizard#0580
6353@Tarn  Are you going to have the Linux build availble on Steam.
6354
6355[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Cody#7177
6356That sounds fantastic @Tarn when you do your next AMA I think you better make this clear right away because it will be the #1 question. Everyone will be asking "Who is Kitfox and why are they involved??"
6357
6358[13-Mar-19 01:46 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6359@MoonyTheDwarf  sorry they asked for the link
6360
6361[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6362that server has caused tarn some trouble, dont think he's fond of it
6363
6364[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6365I didnt realize
6366
6367[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6368I caused some of that trouble, sorry tarn.
6369
6370[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] Ryukan#0001
6371Ah
6372
6373[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] BlueZest#9442
6374So for serious, I think the steam page should mention that all the major billion dollar indie games of our time were influenced by DF. *Cough* Minecraft *cough* Seriously Notch should drop a couple of those HUNDRED BILLIONS the DF Devs way.
6375
6376[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] newveeplus#3297
6377Just removed, feel free to join on your own though ?
6378
6379[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6380Its a meme fest but a enjoyable bunch of enthusiasts.
6381
6382[13-Mar-19 01:47 PM] newveeplus#3297
6383or DM it
6384
6385[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6386@newveeplus  ?
6387
6388[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
6389hey @BlueZest
6390
6391[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Major Tom#3438
6392@BlueZest it does mention modern games
6393
6394[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] BlueZest#9442
6395@TheKoolEagle The coolest eagle
6396
6397[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Gamewizard#0580
6398Yeah I thought about it and rembered why I left, it's mostly a meme fest there from what I recall
6399
6400[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Major Tom#3438
6401In mentions minecraft rimworld and something else
6402
6403[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Ryukan#0001
6404Hmm, I still say a Discord solely for DF Development might be prudent. Even if the tide does subside here eventually, I think it would be beneficial for the community
6405
6406[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6407Whats the latest new stuff in DF? I think the last new things I knew about was beekeeping or something. Or maybe it was improvements to cities in adventure mode
6408
6409[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Gromcal#2669
6410now we can finnally track our play time in DF on steam
6411
6412{Reactions}
6413? (3) 
6414
6415[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] BlueZest#9442
6416@Major Tom waaaat i dont see that anywhere
6417
6418[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Major Tom#3438
6419Its at the bottom
6420
6421[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Gromcal#2669
6422will there be achievements on steam for DF?
6423
6424[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6425Discord would be 24/7 FoTF i think it'd be a bad idea
6426
6427[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Putnam#0852
6428wait WAIT WAIT
6429
6430[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
6431OH GOD STEAM CHEEVOS
6432
6433[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] Meph#6451
6434@BlueZest Yeah, I suggested to @newveeplus to get in contact with Notch... I don't think that happened ?
6435
6436[13-Mar-19 01:48 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6437@Gromcal tarn said they're on the table
6438
6439[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Gamewizard#0580
6440Oh god, I don't think I want my play time tracked I would realize how much time I wast playing DF
6441
6442[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6443@Gromcal  yeah should be interesting to see how many hours i get
6444
6445[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Cruxador#9109
6446@Ryukan Discord is pretty much never beneficial to communities, though.
6447
6448[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6449oh god
6450
6451[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6452@FrankieSmileShow There is a thread on the forum, called Furture of the Fortress. Tarn answers development questions once a month.
6453
6454[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Spock#4233
6455Also, @Kitfox, I was amazed you were/are developing the successor to King of Dragon Pass. On my wishlist too! Also going to get your other stuff like Shrouded Isle! How come you guys are pretty unknown?!
6456
6457[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Putnam#0852
6458the image on the steam page has the old V: Visualize thing
6459
6460{Reactions}
6461FoxLove 
6462
6463[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Major Tom#3438
6464"The original inspiration for RimWorld, Prison Architect, Minecraft and more."
6465
6466[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6467I definitely 200% forgot about it doing other things
6468
6469[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] BlueZest#9442
6470@Meph Seriously, he has SO much money. he is morally obligated to drop at least 1 mill to you guys
6471
6472[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6473sorry Meph
6474
6475[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6476or did I forget..
6477
6478[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] BlueZest#9442
6479He wouldnt even notice a million dollars gone
6480
6481[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6482I don't even know
6483
6484[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6485SO MUCH HAPPENING
6486
6487[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Kurrisum#9342
6488Will the steam version still work with utilities (kind of) like Dwarf Therapist and DF hack stuff?
6489
6490[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6491hahaha
6492
6493[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Cruxador#9109
6494@Spock They're not, they're publishing it. The original devs are developing it.
6495
6496[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] Ryukan#0001
6497@Cruxador When properly policed and maintained, it is very beneficial
6498
6499[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
6500is notch even in this discord server?
6501
6502[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] newveeplus#3297
6503nah
6504
6505[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6506Tarn and Notch power team.
6507
6508[13-Mar-19 01:49 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6509oh I was talking more about the latest updates already in, ill look for the blog
6510
6511[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
6512would be cool to see the madman drop in and say hi at least
6513
6514[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] BlueZest#9442
6515Notch has enough money to pay people to be in discord servers for him
6516
6517[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] BlueJello#0002
6518DFHack will need to be ported, but assuming only minor code changes I don't see that being a long process
6519
6520[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] Namenlos#1326
6521we should get toady and notch to create dwarfcraft
6522
6523[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] Meph#6451
6524@Putnam haha, Mike too the UI text from a super old screenshot (He's been away for a while) and never took it out. ?
6525
6526[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
6527and congratulations/wishes to the team for the upcoming steam release
6528
6529[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] newveeplus#3297
6530@AgentWigggles oops sorry about the message not going through
6531
6532[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] Putnam#0852
6533LMAO
6534
6535[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6536@Namenlos Or maybe we shouldn't
6537
6538[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6539@FrankieSmileShow  http://www.bay12forums.com/smf//index.php?topic=169696.msg7937882#msg7937882 last monthyl Q&A and there is one at the first of most months
6540
6541[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] newveeplus#3297
6542omg
6543
6544[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] newveeplus#3297
6545this discord is going too fast haha
6546
6547[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6548@Namenlos you realise minecraft was originally a Dwarf Fortress clone. lets not :P
6549
6550[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] Cruxador#9109
6551@Ryukan Policing and maintenance have nothing to do with the detrimental effect of discord. It's not bad because people express evil wrongthink, it's bad because it leaches out the life of the community and then lets it whither and die.
6552
6553[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] zeb#2885
6554the steam version should ship with dfhack, therapist, legends viewer, etc. otherwise why not keep using LNP or Meph'snlauncher?
6555
6556[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] BlueZest#9442
6557@newveeplus I would recommend a couple subchannels for DF talk, its only going to get worse. ^^
6558
6559[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] newveeplus#3297
6560hehe
6561
6562[13-Mar-19 01:50 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6563^^^^^
6564
6565[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Qvatch#0476
6566discord is too ephemeral for real community
6567
6568[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6569people are going to flood in as the day goes on
6570
6571[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6572Hmm launchers, i wonder what the graphical version does
6573
6574[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Mala#7349
6575@zeb the steam version should ship with none of those things.
6576
6577[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6578@zeb  that feels unnessessary they should be in the workshop like all mods
6579
6580[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] BlueJello#0002
6581steam version will have workshop support, I am sure there will be several collections in the vein of LNP
6582
6583[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6584Imagine having all DF version loaded into a launcher
6585
6586[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] newveeplus#3297
6587yeah gotta figure out what subchannels will be good, though it mgiht die down after a few days
6588
6589[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Putnam#0852
6590`the steam version should ship with dfhack, therapist, legends viewer, etc. otherwise why not keep using LNP or Meph'snlauncher?
6591`
6592
6593[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Putnam#0852
6594No
6595
6596[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6597^^
6598
6599[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6600It cant. Those arent own by the Brothers Adams or Kitfox Games
6601
6602[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Cruxador#9109
6603@BlueZest I expect it to get worse for the remainder of the week, and start declining some time next week.
6604
6605[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
6606So dwarf fortress tf2 promo hats are on the table correct?
6607
6608{Reactions}
6609DF_Logo_White 
6610
6611[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Mayday#1280
6612@Putnam yeah, that was a serious blunder on my part ? Sorry! It will be fixed once we move to actual ingame screenshots
6613
6614[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] rethnor#1869
6615Will DF be available on mac, linux and PC on steam? I noticed the steam page only has windows requirements
6616
6617[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6618I assume steam workshop support will also allow custom worldgen presets and embark presets to be shipped?
6619
6620[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
6621I'm just glad the steam version keeps the ASCII tileset.
6622
6623[13-Mar-19 01:51 PM] BlueZest#9442
6624@newveeplus on that note, i was wondering if there was a place where i may post when i go live with my DF tutorials ^^. I do them weekly but i can do them even more with the interest going through the roof with this big announcement
6625
6626[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
6627yea should die down
6628
6629[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
6630hmmm
6631
6632[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Mask#1378
6633This is one heck of a surprise to walk in on, learning DF is getting an official commercial release.
6634
6635[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] BlevRuz#8314
6636Lmao DF-themed TF2 hats have to happen now
6637
6638[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Mask#1378
6639Going to tear myself away from the chat, to read the FAQ.
6640
6641[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Major Tom#3438
6642What a time to be alive
6643
6644[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] zeb#2885
6645@Mala @Untrustedlife they're aleady on DFFD too. Why do we need to slum it up inside Steam's walled garden at all?
6646
6647[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] rethnor#1869
6648@Major Tom bad choice of idon to use given the circumstance of this...
6649
6650[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Putnam#0852
6651??????
6652
6653[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
6654@BlueZest We do have a no excessive self-promo rule, but I'm thinking it'd be a good diea to maybe have an ongoing doc of tutorials people can jump on
6655
6656[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
6657Will the steam release be more friendly for new players?
6658
6659[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Qvatch#0476
6660@zeb one click install
6661
6662[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
6663i will figure it out uhhh.... in the coming days
6664
6665[13-Mar-19 01:52 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6666@zeb  because not everyone likes them and they are not official
6667
6668[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] BlueJello#0002
6669steam release will have a official texture pack, so that will help a lot
6670
6671[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6672Anyway, best of luck with this, and with everything else! I hope this gets the attention it deserves on steam!
6673
6674[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Cruxador#9109
6675@Mayday I can't see any post from Putnam that you could be responding to, so I hope the serious blunder you're fixing is the ramps.
6676
6677[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6678How about a questions & help channel for DF players in general @newveeplus ?
6679
6680[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6681I for one never use df hack
6682
6683[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] BlueZest#9442
6684@newveeplus Sounds good ^^. can you drop me a message when they go live? I love helping people get into the game. Otherwise I can of course just keep an eye on in here.
6685
6686[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] MoonyTheDwarf#3778
6687I assume steam release will come out with next major release?
6688
6689[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] newveeplus#3297
6690cheers! ?
6691
6692[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Hoophy#5672
6693?
6694
6695[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] newveeplus#3297
6696ooo a questions and help could be good
6697
6698[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6699@newveeplus  same drop me a message too
6700
6701[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
6702@Not4mortaleyes I mean yes insofar as the new texture pack is more clear than ascii and even most graphic packs by the look of it
6703
6704[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6705@Not4mortaleyes I think that why its coming with a tileset, sound and other quality of life features. But the basic game isnt going to change. If you're totally new, you'll want to use the quick start guide on the wikia, or any of the several dozen of tutorial on youtube made by the community.
6706
6707[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Hoophy#5672
6708This is incredible
6709
6710[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Mala#7349
6711@zeb you seem to hate steam workshop for some reason.
6712
6713[13-Mar-19 01:53 PM] Mayday#1280
6714@Cruxador - it was about the Visualize button. I'm very open to help / suggestions for the ramps.
6715
6716[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6717i will do these things later, i am currently a 1 girl team with all the communications stuff hehe
6718
6719[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Cthulhu#7789
6720Will there be DLC's?
6721
6722[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] clinodev#7030
6723@newveeplus BlueZest was on that short list I sent you, btw. ?
6724
6725[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6726on the kitfox side anyway
6727
6728[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] BlueZest#9442
6729Hell, ill probably do a fresh embark tutorial stream just to celebrate the announcement.
6730
6731[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6732o nice!
6733
6734[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Spock#4233
6735@Mayday I asked Tarn but he might be too busy to answer, any short term plans of updating/changing the UI in DF?
6736
6737[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] zeb#2885
6738@Mala it could split the community.
6739
6740[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Cody#7177
6741DLCs lol
6742
6743[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] BlueZest#9442
6744oops
6745
6746[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Qvatch#0476
6747@Mayday multilevel view makes ramps make a lot more sense even without changing appearance
6748
6749[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] BlueZest#9442
6750@clinodev short list?
6751
6752[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] BlueZest#9442
6753Hey clino ?
6754
6755[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6756^^
6757
6758[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
6759divine metal lootboxes
6760
6761[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6762@BlueZest yeah, @clinodev sent me a bunch of people to contact ?
6763
6764[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
6765@Spock The UI gets incremtal updates with every major release.
6766
6767[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Major Tom#3438
6768No dlcs planned
6769
6770[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6771about DF stuff
6772
6773[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Mala#7349
6774@Mayday Only issue I have with the ramps is they appear to have the light from the bottom right
6775
6776[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] RainFrogs#7863
6777@Mayday why 3/4ths instead of top-down?
6778
6779[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] BlueZest#9442
6780C-contact?
6781
6782[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] Mala#7349
6783instead of top left
6784
6785[13-Mar-19 01:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
6786but that's when stuff comes out :3
6787
6788[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] fishfosh#3824
6789@Meph Sorry if this has been asked before, but any chance of decorative objects like in your tileset being added in the steam version?
6790
6791[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Mayday#1280
6792@Spock small changes are planned to improve it right away, no plans to rebuild it all in the initial release
6793
6794[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Qvatch#0476
6795side view so you can see details of the dress and wounds
6796
6797[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Cthulhu#7789
6798Is it restricted to one texture pack or others will be available?
6799
6800[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6801@clinodev  was i on that list? I answer questiosn contantly on the forums/discord
6802
6803[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] clinodev#7030
6804@BlueZest It was like 5 or 6 people, a fairly short list.
6805
6806[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] BlueZest#9442
6807S-stuff?
6808
6809[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Mayday#1280
6810@Qvatch  yes, we're still debating how multilevel view will work
6811
6812[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Spock#4233
6813cheers
6814
6815[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Meph#6451
6816@fishfosh For sure. Not in the official DF, no... but I can mod them in. ?
6817
6818[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] newveeplus#3297
6819**AMA TOMORROW FOR BAY 12 -- CHECK THE PINNED MESSAGES** So if your question isn't answered here, throw it in there tomorrow!
6820
6821[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Cruxador#9109
6822@Mayday I think the main problem is that everything else looks more or less natural, but they're super geometric. They do also look like they're going down where they should go up, though. Hopefully rounding out those edges a bit will help the problem a lot.
6823
6824[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] BlueZest#9442
6825@clinodev Can i ... send you cookies or something?
6826
6827{Reactions}
6828? (2) 
6829
6830[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] zeb#2885
6831@fishfosh you shoulf be able to add them manually, unless VAC decides to ban you
6832
6833[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] fishfosh#3824
6834@Meph Cool, thanks!
6835
6836[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6837How much will DF cost on steam?
6838
6839[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] newveeplus#3297
684019.99
6841
6842{Reactions}
6843? (10) ? 
6844
6845[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6846crap
6847
6848[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] newveeplus#3297
6849$
6850
6851[13-Mar-19 01:55 PM] clinodev#7030
6852@Untrustedlife Love you much, it was a streamer list.
6853
6854[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Qvatch#0476
6855@Mayday hopefully with adjustable alpha for the levels :) I like seeing below, but in a subdued way.
6856
6857[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Mala#7349
6858@zeb there's nothing stopping you from downloading mods from dffd. I know I will upload any mods I produce to the steam workshop, as well as where they usually go. I'm sure other modders will do the same
6859
6860[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6861@clinodev  Darn
6862
6863[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Meph#6451
6864@Cthulhu Ascii and graphical set. Additional tilesets would be made by the community, as always.
6865
6866[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Putnam#0852
6867the ramps are giving me a major necker effect lol
6868
6869[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Putnam#0852
6870i don't use dffd at all anyway
6871
6872[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
6873Buying it on itch probably gets you all more of the money right?
6874
6875[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6876Steam workshop might actually expand the community with a little outreach into the mainstream.
6877
6878[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
6879$60, with an extra 20 for the season pass
6880
6881[13-Mar-19 01:56 PM] Cthulhu#7789
6882@Meph Huge fan of all your work!!!!
6883
6884[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] BlueZest#9442
688520 bucks? HAH i already donated that to the devs. Be glad to donate more. TOTALLY FRICKEN worth it. DF is one of the FEW games that i feel is definitely worth 20 bucks. Would drop that again in a heartbeat
6886
6887[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Major Tom#3438
6888Steam version surely will expand the community
6889
6890[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6891Any prospect of steam sales in the future @Tanya_KitfoxGames ?
6892
6893[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] G3Kappa#4580
6894right, which is better in terms of taxes? I'll buy it wherever you get a higher share
6895
6896[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6897I mean, discount sales.
6898
6899[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Mayday#1280
6900@Mala well, yes, if they were lit from the "top" then all the creatures and items would have to be lit from the "back" becuase it's a mixed perspective (top-down for walls and floors, 1/2 for creatures and items)
6901
6902[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
6903buy it at gamestop for a master chief helmet snake
6904
6905[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6906will we still be able to do raw edits as easily?
6907
6908[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] shmug#7139
6909Ha, how many members were in this Discord 24 hours ago?
6910
6911[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] clinodev#7030
6912@Untrustedlife If I'm asked for names of people who are always answering questions and helping new people on reddit, though, I bet your name will be right there in the ☼Bi-weekly DF Questions Thread☼ when I look!
6913
6914[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6915probably not many
6916
6917[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Cody#7177
6918I'll be buying several copies of steam's DF personally out of support
6919
6920[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Putnam#0852
6921wait, wait
6922
6923[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] shmug#7139
6924I just joined. I imagine this is gonna get shit on today
6925
6926[13-Mar-19 01:57 PM] Putnam#0852
6927how's the music work?
6928
6929[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] zeb#2885
6930So is it better to give 20 bucks directly to Bay12, or let Gaben skim a little off the top? No offense intended to Kitfox...
6931
6932[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6933never heard of any of these games
6934
6935[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Mayday#1280
6936@RainFrogs you mean why we aren't drawing creatures, dwarves etc. from the top-down perspective?
6937
6938[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
693920% to kitfox apparently
6940
6941[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Tubles#1981
6942@Mort Strudel a helmet snake, eh? I'm trying to untangle that euphemism...
6943
6944[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Putnam#0852
6945before it just sort of played the one track, and i know there was some under-the-hood support for whatever audio tracks you want but it'd only play the one anyway
6946
6947[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Cthulhu#7789
6948@zeb  Give it all to Gaben
6949
6950[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6951@clinodev  thats the 1 thread i avoid, look at the FOTF and the discord for me and the adventure mode subsection ?
6952
6953[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6954which is bloody terrible
6955
6956[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6957Music pack DLC's are pretty popular sellers for stuff we can't alter ourselves.
6958
6959[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
6960Just ask Paradox
6961
6962[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] mount2010#9649
6963its better to give 20 bucks to bay12 directly kitfox is willing to admit that
6964
6965[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Major Tom#3438
6966Gaben gets 30% but if the game gets 1.000.000$ (iirc) then the number drops to 20%
6967
6968[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Kurrisum#9342
6969What is the difference between a 20$ version and the ASCII one that will still be worked on?
6970
6971[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] rethnor#1869
6972@Mayday recently started with multi level view, quite helpful, can be confusing sometimes but nmore helpful than not
6973
6974[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] zeb#2885
6975@Cthulhu it was inevitable
6976
6977[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Cody#7177
6978if you buy it on steam it'll at least go to the Bestseller's list and get more attention
6979
6980[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Cruxador#9109
6981@Dragonslayerelf That's a pretty good rate actually
6982
6983[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] mount2010#9649
6984its just for exposure
6985
6986[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6987eh
6988
6989[13-Mar-19 01:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6990also df wiki history
6991
6992[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Mayday#1280
6993@Cruxador I can experiment with smoothing them, no problem. But I tried a smoother transition between the horizontal floor and the ram, and it ended up being even more unreadable
6994
6995[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
6996i update that ALOT
6997
6998[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
6999I'd honestly prefer 90/10 for bay 12
7000
7001[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7002last thing they need is some publisher skimping off their hard work
7003
7004[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7005@BlueZest  i donated 5 a month for at least a  year so i have probbably given upwards of 60 dollars, i recnetly started supporting them on patreon after a long hiatus.
7006
7007[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Major Tom#3438
7008Epic store btw takes like 10-15% of the cut
7009
7010[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] mount2010#9649
701120% is low for publisher cuts already lol
7012
7013[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] BlueZest#9442
7014@Untrustedlife epic! . I should start doing that
7015
7016[13-Mar-19 01:59 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7017I hate publishing and publishers as a rule generally
7018
7019[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7020DF with a really nice looking graphics pack, more varied music, on steam where it can get much more exposure and workshop support, is absolutely going to increase the player count enormously
7021
7022[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7023Sad that steam doesnt have a self publication method
7024
7025[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] RainFrogs#7863
7026@Mayday  like zelda-style 3/4ths perspective instead of a hotline miami pure top-down as I always assumed the ascii DF perspective was supposed to be
7027
7028[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Mala#7349
7029@Mayday https://i.imgur.com/15uDkxi.png I mean here. The trees, bushes, cows and rocks all have light from the same direction, but the ramps seem to be the opposite, unless they're ramps down, which makes no sense
7030
7031[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Hoophy#5672
7032Will this have multilevel view like with TWBT?
7033
7034[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Namenlos#1326
7035how are the sounds going to be like?
7036
7037[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] BlueZest#9442
7038Someone go tell vlargskelethor. I notice a HUGE uptick in views when he streams DF.
7039
7040[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] zeb#2885
7041procedural music might be fun
7042
7043[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Cruxador#9109
7044@Mayday Yeah, I get that it's a hard problem. I don't have a perfect solution either, but it's definitely not in a releaseable state now. I guess it's good that there's probably months to more than a year until Toady's done with the code aspect of this. Gives plenty of time to come up with solutions, and for other people to have and share ideas.
7045
7046[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Daniexpert#4862
7047@Dragonslayerelf They are doing a lot of work, no reason to say they should receive less money
7048
7049[13-Mar-19 02:00 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7050Like?
7051
7052[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Spock#4233
7053I supported for a year and stopped when I didn't see enough changes UI wise... still love you guys to pieces and will definitely buy the steam version when its out! cheers!
7054
7055[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Cody#7177
7056@Dragonslayerelf here is Tarn's answer as to why there's a publisher ``` went with Kitfox for lots of reasons - for example, I'd never have been able to work out the contracting stuff with Mayday (Dwarf Fortress) and Meph (Dwarf Fortress) and they were also able to fund it for these months now where we need to work before the first release.  Most of the business-type stuff I was worried about over the years isn't an issue here, which is great ```
7057
7058[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] fishfosh#3824
7059Kitfox is a publisher that's worth supporting if you ask me. I have no problem with it.
7060
7061[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Daniexpert#4862
7062Did you even read the FAQ? lmao
7063
7064[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7065@Hoophy It's compatible with dfhack, so I would imagine it would be compatible with most any mod that's compatible with the current version
7066
7067[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Mayday#1280
7068@Mala oh, you can't tell it from the screen, because not all directions are shown. Everything is lit slightly from the left and mostly from the bottom. Which, for items and creatures - means from the front
7069
7070[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Cruxador#9109
7071@Dragonslayerelf Graphics, music, and the business side of everything. Toady is only adding a bit more tileset support that he planned to add eventually anyway.
7072
7073[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Hoophy#5672
7074Cool
7075
7076[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Mayday#1280
7077@Mala I'll show it in another mockup at some point
7078
7079[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Putnam#0852
7080i doubt it'll be compatible with dfhack for a few weeks but that's always true
7081
7082[13-Mar-19 02:01 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7083though twbt tends to take a while to update so it might take a few weeks or months after the steam launch for it to be compatible @Hoophy
7084
7085[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Mala#7349
7086Anyway, it'll be moddable in any case
7087
7088[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7089Meph, Toady, and threetoe as well as anyone working on df deserve it more than any publisher
7090
7091{Reactions}
7092? 
7093
7094[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Putnam#0852
7095will twbt be necessary at all
7096
7097[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Mala#7349
7098Might just take some getting used to
7099
7100[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] thebarnet#9420
7101which is good
7102
7103[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Hoophy#5672
7104Will it cost money? (rest assured, I will buy it)
7105
7106[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Hoophy#5672
7107I assume yes
7108
7109[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7110but ye, will there be raw editing support?
7111
7112[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] mount2010#9649
7113$19.99
7114
7115[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7116^^
7117
7118[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] fire bruh#2908
7119hi toady one
7120
7121[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Qvatch#0476
7122faq is pinned
7123
7124[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] newveeplus#3297
7125It's okay to criticize or be wary of us @Dragonslayerelf ! But do checkout the FAQ (pinned) for some more context. : )
7126
7127[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Cody#7177
7128@Mayday do you directly benefit, if more people are buying the game from itch and steam?
7129
7130[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Hoophy#5672
7131That’s a good price I say
7132
7133[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Mala#7349
7134@Putnam twbt may not be necessary for most stuf
7135
7136[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] BlaBla#5272
7137It's look like my question was missed, should I ask again?
7138
7139[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Putnam#0852
7140if the game still uses raws then raw editing is still possible
7141
7142[13-Mar-19 02:02 PM] Mayday#1280
7143@RainFrogs Tarn requested pure top-down for the walls and floors for the initial release
7144
7145[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] fire bruh#2908
7146toady one please come to my friends discord server
7147
7148[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] mount2010#9649
7149lol
7150
7151[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
7152UI improvements, opacity on the UI's particularly @Putnam the steam page has some really good screenshots
7153
7154[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Putnam#0852
7155and i have no reason to believe the game doesn't use raws anymore
7156
7157[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7158Who needs raw editing support, I want raw CORRUPTION support
7159
7160[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7161@fire bruh  not appropriate to ask such things
7162
7163[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] newveeplus#3297
7164Let Toady and ThreeToe eat and drink coffee hehe, if they aren't responding they might just be taking a break
7165
7166[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7167minotaur fortress
7168
7169[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Meph#6451
7170@Dragonslayerelf dont believe @newveeplus . She is vicious and attacks you with an axe at the slightest slight. ?
7171
7172[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] fire bruh#2908
7173oh ok
7174
7175[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] newveeplus#3297
7176@Meph how dare you blow my cover
7177
7178[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7179slightly overlapping wall tops would be very nice, but might be a lot of work to fit in everything
7180
7181[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Mayday#1280
7182@Cody Not directly. I benefit in the sense that there will (hopefully) be requests to create more graphics after the initial release. Kitfox is already paying us for our work as it is.
7183
7184[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] Scal#1755
7185wow DF on steam? Default graphics? Music? What even is life
7186
7187[13-Mar-19 02:03 PM] RainFrogs#7863
7188@Mayday And the trees too?  I don't know how you'd do trees ascending in z-levels from that perspective without weirdly skewing the information of where the tree actually is
7189
7190[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7191@Scal  life is in a word df
7192
7193[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Cody#7177
7194no cut of the sales huh? that's too bad
7195
7196[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7197Is the music system going to support custom track additions like Soundsense?
7198
7199[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Cruxador#9109
7200@Mayday But in that picture, the ramps are lit slightly from the right and mostly from the top.
7201
7202[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7203maybe you only see the stumps of trees?
7204
7205[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Meph#6451
7206@newveeplus are we bestest nemesises now? ?
7207
7208{Reactions}
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7210
7211[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] fire bruh#2908
7212gonan stick to regular dwarf fortress. I make my own music and sound effectsa when i play dwarf fortress anyway
7213
7214[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] BlaBla#5272
7215Ok, @Meph , are there any modifications to legends mode?
7216
7217[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Hoophy#5672
7218@Scal beautiful
7219
7220[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] cuffy#8115
7221@Tarn how much time will work on the steam release take out of your usual dev schedule?
7222
7223[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Raiden333#2658
7224I hope there's a steam achievement that's just called "Fun"
7225
7226{Reactions}
7227? 
7228
7229[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Mala#7349
7230I think the tree sprites might need to be a little different then
7231
7232[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] zeb#2885
7233And They Sang "Steam!"
7234
7235[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7236@RainFrogs  yes the trees will be top down just like anything i presume
7237
7238[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Mayday#1280
7239@RainFrogs this will be subject to lots of experiments. Trees and ramps are some of the more complicated problems here
7240
7241{Reactions}
7242? 
7243
7244[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Meph#6451
7245@BlaBla nothing planned for legends
7246
7247[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
7248Sorry if this has already been asked but will there be an option to play the steam/itch version with ASCII? I've gotten too used to it over the years and it just feels weird to not play with it
7249
7250[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Scal#1755
7251i'll still be giving my support through paetron, but i'll absolutely buy it on steam as well. When is release?
7252
7253[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] newveeplus#3297
7254Yep! ASCII version available
7255
7256[13-Mar-19 02:04 PM] Qvatch#0476
7257now ents, which are both moving sprites, and giant trees, would pose a problem :)
7258
7259[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] newveeplus#3297
7260no release adte
7261
7262[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] BlaBla#5272
7263Oww, ok
7264
7265[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] newveeplus#3297
7266date*
7267
7268[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Tubles#1981
7269@Aldos Mora yes, and read the faq
7270
7271[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Mask#1378
7272Will people who buy DF on Itch.io get a steam key? @newveeplus I've seen a number of devs arrange that, and I think it goes well with communities. Particularly it should be good, since I think Itch takes a much smaller cut.
7273
7274[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Mayday#1280
7275@Cruxador you actually can't see it on the screenshot, but they are lit slightly form the left! I might modify this effect to make it clearer
7276
7277[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7278@Aldos Mora  yes you will be able to choose to play in ascii
7279
7280[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] shmug#7139
7281If anyone in here right now hasn't read the Reddit thread I think it's the best source of information at the moment
7282
7283{Reactions}
7284❤ 
7285
7286[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Tarn#6100
7287@RainFrogs we've thought about some initial caps on things to lower the cpu stress for new people, but never settled on a way we could set that up without it being confusing given what people see other people doing in their games.  there's probably some clever solution.
7288
7289{Reactions}
7290? 
7291
7292[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] newveeplus#3297
7293Hmmm not sure @Mask !
7294
7295[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Hoophy#5672
7296Probably a dumb question, but why not just use Meph’s (or another) tileset directly?
7297
7298[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Hoophy#5672
7299Rather than a new one
7300
7301[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] newveeplus#3297
7302will see about it
7303
7304[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7305eh still skeptical but it sounds like a good thing for bay 12
7306
7307[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Mask#1378
7308I'd like to access steam workshop, but would prefer to not pay Steam a 30% cut or whatever it was, is my reason for asking. @newveeplus Thank you for looking into it ?
7309
7310[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Mala#7349
7311https://cdn.wikimg.net/en/strategywiki/images/8/83/Zelda_ALttP_Fairy_LW9.png something like these tree stumps for the lower levels, maybe
7312
7313[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] fire bruh#2908
7314tilesets for the colorblind
7315
7316[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Kenny#7611
7317getting a new "official" tileset it's awesome
7318
7319[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] ThreeToe#2757
7320@cuffy initially it might take a month or two to get the graphics started but after that it shouldn't effect development at all
7321
7322[13-Mar-19 02:05 PM] Terimort#4860
7323I'm very excited for visuals~ My brain always struggled with the learning curve combined with ASCII xD totally wishlisted.
7324
7325[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Cthulhu#7789
7326So will the steam version still rely heavily on cpu or will it use gpu?
7327
7328[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Kenny#7611
7329and Meph and Mayday working together, even more awesome
7330
7331[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Cheesecake#6262
7332i just came here to say congratulations
7333
7334[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7335^
7336
7337[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Hoophy#5672
7338^
7339
7340[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Kenny#7611
7341Mephday all day long
7342
7343[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] zeb#2885
7344Meph's current tileset is great. The new one made me crosseyed trying to figure out the ramps.
7345
7346[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7347`
7348So will the steam version still rely heavily on cpu or will it use gpu?`
7349
7350[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7351meph is great
7352
7353[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] newveeplus#3297
7354@Hoophy Yeah, for reasons we wanted an all new, original tileset from scratch ?
7355
7356[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7357it will always be heavy on cpu
7358
7359[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Qvatch#0476
7360perhaps some standardized way of indicating a sprite is clipped to the level?
7361
7362[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7363@Hoophy  tarn has explained this in df talk, there are legal problems, like what if a tileset author lifted a glyph from nintendo
7364
7365[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7366not much of the CPU-heavy stuff can be offloaded, if any
7367
7368[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] newveeplus#3297
7369Thanks @Cheesecake ❤
7370
7371[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Mayday#1280
7372@Mala I'm looking for a solution that is clearly NOT a stump, that's the problem
7373
7374[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Hoophy#5672
7375Ah
7376
7377[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7378how much of DF's simulation is matrix multiplication, anyway
7379
7380[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] mount2010#9649
7381again ill say "yay meph technicially a developer!"
7382
7383[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
7384but has anyone said anything abt raw edits?
7385
7386[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Hoophy#5672
7387Thanks @Untrustedlife
7388
7389[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
7390@Cthulhu Beside the graphic and music, the game snt changing. Kitfox doesnt have access tot he source and have no power over devolopment.
7391
7392[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7393raw edits should be unchanged
7394
7395[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7396oh god i'm having a hard time keeping up now
7397
7398[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Tarn#6100
7399@Major Tom for the post Steam, pre magic plans:  the current plan is still to clean up the rest of the pre-magic dev list.  obviously hard to say exactly what we'll feel like once the steam release hits, as time will be crunched more there initially, so a few things might be left untouched as we begin magic.  hope to get it all though.
7400
7401[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Putnam#0852
7402if you'll recall 0.31 merely changed the raws and it took almost two years
7403
7404[13-Mar-19 02:06 PM] Mayday#1280
7405@Mala I was even ready to just put one-tile sprite of a whole tree there
7406
7407[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7408I like the look of the ramps in the screenshots, its simple but it works
7409
7410[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Brainzman#9780
7411@Tanya How are you going to deal with the GPL which is basicly what A LOT of DF mods are under, and the steam Workshop? Is there any open-source system ready for that?
7412
7413[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Hoophy#5672
7414Meph working with Mayday is literally what I am most excited about tbh
7415
7416[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] cuffy#8115
7417@ThreeToe cheers for the prompt answer
7418
7419[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Kenny#7611
7420#mephday
7421
7422[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7423Whats pre magic? Is that a upcoming update?
7424
7425[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Cody#7177
7426https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251937225380593665/555451717890867200/unknown.png the ramps right now look kinda  weird to me
7427
7428[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Cody#7177
7429too much like stairs
7430
7431[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Pasakoye#3246
74324x3 embarks are big enough, and fit screen nicely, 4x4 or more = slower in long run.
7433
7434[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7435@Mayday  that would make it difficult to know where to stand to get a branch from a tree in adventure mode though, also climbing
7436
7437[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] mount2010#9649
7438villians release meaning premagic i think?
7439
7440[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Scal#1755
7441I think i started DF around .34 or somehwere around there, and this mythical magic update i've heard about in hushed rumors is what i've been waiting the most for
7442
7443[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7444Whats villans?
7445
7446[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Putnam#0852
7447`How are you going to deal with the GPL which is basicly what A LOT of DF mods are under, and the steam Workshop? Is there any open-source system ready for that?`
7448the thing GPL guarantees is that you can't be sued for distributing GPL stuff afaik, even if it's included under copyrighted content
7449
7450[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7451What's wrong with the new ramps? They look perfectly clear to me
7452
7453[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] Major Tom#3438
7454@Not4mortaleyes i asked about plans on df after the villain release and after the steam release
7455
7456[13-Mar-19 02:07 PM] fire bruh#2908
7457whens the dialectics development arc
7458
7459[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] RainFrogs#7863
7460@Mayday the only thing I can think of is to visually shift z-levels up one tile every level, which of course takes some backend changes and poses worse problems for other scenarios
7461
7462[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Qvatch#0476
7463@Mayday since youl'll have multilevel access, perhaps some shadows of the branches above?
7464
7465[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] fire bruh#2908
7466ig dwarf fortress is already dialectical nvm
7467
7468[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] mount2010#9649
7469look at recent devposts about villians release
7470
7471[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7472@Not4mortaleyes  pre magic is villain release ->bugfixes ->steam release ->bugfixes
7473
7474[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7475Ooooh ive been out of the loop whats being added in those updates?
7476
7477[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7478Oh I see, the grass ramps, yeah those do look a bit odd
7479
7480[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Mala#7349
7481shadows would be so nice
7482
7483[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7484the stone ramps look very clear tho
7485
7486[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Brainzman#9780
7487@Putnam Isn't there a close where you must provide the source if someone ask it? I might be wrong tho
7488
7489[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] BlueZest#9442
7490@clinodev @newveeplus I assume Vlargskelethor is on the list, but i suppose i should check. He pulls in roughly 2-3k viewers every stream and does a DF stream every major update. I think it would be a major benefit for the game to work with him if you guys desire to. ^^
7491
7492[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] mount2010#9649
7493villians, cults, evil in your fort, evil in adv.
7494
7495[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Tarn#6100
7496@Meph yeah, DF classic modders will be able to do their own extensive tilesets with the same features, like transparency and the grass edging and all that.
7497
7498[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7499@Not4mortaleyes  they are adding alot
7500
7501[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Putnam#0852
7502i mean, DF itself isn't under GPL
7503
7504[13-Mar-19 02:08 PM] Mayday#1280
7505@RainFrogs it's certainly one of the things I requested, but I think it will work best if we actually make the whole thing 3/4 - which IS possible, but top-down has priority in the initial release
7506
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7508?? 
7509
7510[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] zeb#2885
7511@Putnam only if you publish soure, including all changes. If you change so mich as one line and don't admit it, you are in violation.
7512
7513[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7514Is there a place i can read up about it
7515
7516[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Putnam#0852
7517the raws have a sort of weird copyleft to them but they're impossible to lock down afaik
7518
7519[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Tarn#6100
7520Hi @FrankieSmileShow !
7521
7522[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Brainzman#9780
7523@Putname of course, but a lot of mods are
7524
7525[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Putnam#0852
7526which ones
7527
7528[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Major Tom#3438
7529@Tarn thanks for the answers! You shouldnt worry about time! We are all very patient and we know that you always deliver what you promise, so waiting a bit longer till magic update so we could get army stuff wouldnt be any problem at all!
7530
7531[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Cruxador#9109
7532@Untrustedlife That isn't correct. Pre-magic is the big immediately prior to magic. It goes villain, bugfix, steam, bugfix, premagic, magic.
7533
7534[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Meph#6451
7535@Kenny MayMeph? ?
7536
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7538❤ (2) 
7539
7540[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Mayday#1280
7541There's this weird clashing of top-down and 3/4 (or even 1/2) on all the sprites, so we need to juggle that
7542
7543[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Namenlos#1326
7544@BlueZest hmm i saw him make custom music for his shitpost-rpg but i don't know if I can agree so much with that
7545
7546[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Putnam#0852
7547i mean, i say this, but that doesn't even matter because if the mod is under GPL then the mod is under GPL
7548
7549[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Putnam#0852
7550and nobody has to worry about that in particular
7551
7552[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7553Also the depth effect looks a little wonky to me will there be a way to make out own terrain tiles
7554
7555[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Putnam#0852
7556it's just the mod which is under GPL
7557
7558[13-Mar-19 02:09 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7559@Cruxador  isnt that what i said
7560
7561[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Mala#7349
7562@Mayday clearly the solution is full 3D
7563
7564{Reactions}
7565? 
7566
7567[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Brainzman#9780
7568@Putnam True
7569
7570[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] BlueZest#9442
7571@Namenlos i just wanted to bring him up since he is a BIG dude who streams DF ever so rarely
7572
7573[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Meph#6451
7574Yeah, we got all the sprites. Top-down walls, angled ramps, oblique furniture, 1/2 fish in top-down water. It's great.
7575
7576[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7577Hi Tarn! Big day?
7578
7579[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Hoophy#5672
75805 dimensional df when
7581
7582[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Cheesecake#6262
7583cant wait for the release
7584
7585[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Mask#1378
7586@Mayday Could you consider adding an additional UI element for the ramps, in the visual tileset? Say, little upward and downward pointing arrows that go over the top of the tiles?
7587
7588It's a little confusing to me, in the screenshots. I may well get used to it, of course.
7589
7590[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7591the clean floors look nice and all, but we should know what they look like covered in vomit, as that is a more realistic depiction of how it will look in game
7592
7593[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Cruxador#9109
7594@Untrustedlife Might have been what you meant, but the way you phrased it, you were actually calling everything prior to magic "pre-magic".
7595
7596[13-Mar-19 02:10 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7597@Cruxador  i listed the stuff prior to pre-magic
7598
7599[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Qvatch#0476
7600@Meph any plans to choose which sprite is shown on top when they pile up? or rendering multiple in the same tile?
7601
7602[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Tarn#6100
7603@shitidontknow direct edits to mods:  so right now, it's possible to open the folder where it's installed and mess with it, but traditionally with steam, I'm not sure how it reacts when you change stuff directly?  versus its auto-updating etc.?  does that bother the steam launcher or does it just not care?
7604
7605[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Mayday#1280
7606@Mask I'll work with the community to try and work out a solution that doesn't require any additional cues. If that fails then yes, that's a possible option
7607
7608[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Gamewizard#0580
7609It simply overwrites in my exerince @Tarn
7610
7611[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] zeb#2885
7612I just want to be able to revert back to ascii, or Meph's OG tileset.
7613
7614[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Meph#6451
7615@Mort Strudel where have you seen stone ramps? ^^
7616
7617[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Qvatch#0476
7618tarn: might cause a problem if people try and validate their install
7619
7620[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Mask#1378
7621Thank you Mayday. That sounds a good plan.
7622
7623[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Putnam#0852
7624if steam workshop updates when you open the game it'll probably overwrite any manual edits to conflicting files
7625
7626[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7627@Mayday  did you see what i said about trees
7628
7629[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Major Tom#3438
7630@Not4mortaleyes http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html
7631
7632[13-Mar-19 02:11 PM] Major Tom#3438
7633You can read about it here
7634
7635[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] zeb#2885
7636and what about Masterwork?
7637
7638[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7639For the perspective i think it would be nice to to have a classic top down approach where the walls facing you are visible but the ones to the side and facing away arent
7640
7641[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Major Tom#3438
7642About the villain stuff
7643
7644[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Mask#1378
7645@zeb That said that will be an option, I believe.
7646
7647[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Mask#1378
7648That you can play with ASCII, and use modders' tilesets.
7649
7650[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7651So what will megabeasts look like in the official graphics set ? ?
7652
7653[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Major Tom#3438
7654@zeb Meph said that it will be uploaded to steam workshop
7655
7656[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Mayday#1280
7657@Untrustedlife  Adventure mode will still show what's on the upper levels, and that's where the branches will be shown
7658
7659[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Namenlos#1326
7660@Meph can you make the light-sources in the tileset more consistent?
7661
7662[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] BlueZest#9442
7663So I make a semi-serious joke that DF will be the first game to ever achieve AI. Any devs in here run into something. ODD? XD
7664
7665[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Brainzman#9780
7666So wait, what the price for that Prenium edition rn?
7667
7668[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7669@Mayday  but what about once you are in the tree and climbing through it?
7670
7671[13-Mar-19 02:12 PM] mount2010#9649
7672$19.99
7673
7674[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Not4mortaleyes#2175
7675$20
7676
7677[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Brainzman#9780
7678oh damn
7679
7680[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Brainzman#9780
7681thx
7682
7683[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7684@Meph I had assumed the second image on steam was showing an up ramp and a down ramp, is that actually an up stair and a down stair?
7685
7686[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Cody#7177
7687@ThreeToe I hope you recover fully and stronger than ever. I'll definitely be spending money on all this for your guys' hard work.
7688
7689[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Hoophy#5672
7690Holy SHIT did I just read workshop support correctly??????
7691
7692[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Hoophy#5672
7693YES
7694
7695[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] mount2010#9649
7696yes
7697
7698[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Hoophy#5672
76991000x YES
7700
7701[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Cheesecake#6262
7702YES
7703
7704[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] zeb#2885
7705@Mask so basically this is like LNP but instead of donating 20 bucks to Bay12, I pay 20 bucks to Valve and Tarn gets 15. Yippee.
7706
7707[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] BlueZest#9442
770820 bucks is worth it, i KNOW most of you have played this more than any triple A title you own xD
7709
7710[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
7711will steam workshop work with a mod manager?
7712
7713[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7714@BlueZest  for sure
7715
7716[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Brainzman#9780
7717@zeb Hell yeah !
7718
7719[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Mayday#1280
7720@Untrustedlife there too! But anyway, symbolic lowest level tree icon will probably not be there, so never mind
7721
7722[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Scal#1755
7723i've been playing this game for literally years
7724
7725[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] Scal#1755
7726since before minecraft
7727
7728[13-Mar-19 02:13 PM] mount2010#9649
7729tarn gets less than $15, steam takes a cut too lol
7730
7731[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Hoophy#5672
7732This game is my life
7733
7734[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Tubles#1981
7735@Tarn Steam doesn't care about direct edits at all. If an update supercedes something you've edited it just gets replaced. The low-tech way around this is the author providing a template that the user copies to what the mod looks at for settings. There's probably a more clever way of doing it, I'm just a dummy
7736
7737[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Cruxador#9109
7738@zeb Tarn gets eleven and change, and the DFhack features aren't there.
7739
7740[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Mask#1378
7741@zeb There's also Itch.io. I asked @newveeplus whether it would be possible to give steamkeys to people who buy it on Itch, and she is looking into that possibility.
7742
7743[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7744@Mayday  ahh okay
7745
7746[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
774715$ is what tarn gets, total price is 20$
7748
7749[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7750@zeb with a tileset with more features and a bunch of new music and workshop support, no need to mope
7751
7752[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
7753so valve's cut is 5$
7754
7755[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
7756@FrankieSmileShow meph says modular but thats tightly lipped spoiler material.
7757
7758[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] ThreeToe#2757
7759@Cody thanks, man.  They had to stuff my ear up my nose to make it look normal, but hopefully that did it.
7760
7761[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] zeb#2885
7762No dfhack either? Oh come on....
7763
7764[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] mount2010#9649
7765no, kitfoxs cut is $5
7766
7767[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7768ooooo that sounds interesting...
7769
7770[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
7771If you would notice the beards in the screenshots are individually colored
7772
7773[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7774if yall need any help drawing some spooky pixel art monsters.......
7775
7776[13-Mar-19 02:14 PM] Putnam#0852
7777the second cleverest way is to have a mod that edits stuff in such a way that mods can have minimal clashes with each other, e.g. by having every creature and entity its own raw
7778
7779[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7780Modular forgotten beasts sounds awesome
7781
7782[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Putnam#0852
7783the cleverest way would be more proper mod merging but that's, uh, hard
7784
7785[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] mount2010#9649
7786@zeb dfhack on workshop probably.
7787
7788[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Tuklus#4201
7789All the support really means a lot to me and @ThreeToe. Y'all are the best part of the fortress  ?
7790
7791[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Putnam#0852
7792it's very hard
7793
7794[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Brainzman#9780
7795@YouCallThisAShitpost? Its way less, he is not a "certified dev" (only big studio are) and kitfox have a 5$ cut so i guess it will be around 8 dollar for him
7796
7797[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Meph#6451
7798@Mort Strudel that's a up-stairs next to a down-stairs
7799
7800[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7801@Tuklus  are you the family member they mentioned
7802
7803[13-Mar-19 02:15 PM] BlueZest#9442
7804Excellent sprite work btw guys. Way to bury all the DF knock offs in one swoop xD
7805
7806[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Mask#1378
7807A simple mod manager that lets you check or uncheck mods, and decide install order, would be a great way to avoid many conflicts.
7808
7809[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Cruxador#9109
7810Guys talking about cuts: Steam takes 30% then Kitfox takes 20%, then the government takes whatever percent they take. Tarn is looking at  $11.19 before taxes.
7811
7812[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] mount2010#9649
7813money is still money. even if he gets $1000 a month more it means a lot. plus steam will draw attention and maybe patreons.
7814
7815[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] YouCallThisAShitpost?#3449
7816DF is going to sell like hotcakes most probably, so tarn will be able to get more than enough cash hopefully
7817
7818[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Tubles#1981
7819@zeb Bringing it up over and over isn't going to make dfhack magically an *official* tool. It's not made by Bay12, therefore it's not going to be a part of the official release.
7820That said, I think all of us think it likely to get branched to cover the steam version.
7821
7822[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7823@Meph ah, I typically do ramps adjacent like that and use stairs like ladders, so intuitively it looked like ramps to me
7824
7825[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Cody#7177
7826does that mean you have a sense of hearing in your nose now @ThreeToe ?
7827
7828[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] ThreeToe#2757
7829Say hi to @Tuklus  everyone, without her, I'd really be up the creek.  Thanks babe.
7830
7831[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Tarn#6100
7832@BlaBla There are maps etc. in legends mode, and those'll very likely have tiles.  Generally speaking, with like hyperlinks and stuff, the idea was to definitely get those in with the magic release (since the prototype already has them) but it also came up in terms of accessibility for steam and whether we're going to do a pass on instructions/tutorial stuff, which also has a hyperlink problem currently.  so, it's possible, but focus is on help stuff first
7833
7834[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Scal#1755
7835you guys can still donate if you don't think they'll get enough
7836
7837[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Mask#1378
7838@Cruxador 20% seems reasonable for KF. It sucks Steam decides to take almost a third of it, though.
7839
7840[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Major Tom#3438
7841Hi @Tuklus !
7842
7843[13-Mar-19 02:16 PM] Inarius#9595
7844Hi @Tarn , it's Inarius speaking. Congratulation for your Steam release and all the thing. Just one question, will Titan and FB will look like what they are, or will they have a generic display ?
7845
7846[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Cruxador#9109
7847Steam is better than other support methods because of the attention it draws, not because of the percent Tarn gets
7848
7849[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] mount2010#9649
7850your wife, zach?
7851
7852[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] zeb#2885
7853@Tubles dwarffortesswiki.org is not official either.
7854
7855[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] rethnor#1869
7856@Tuklus Hi! thank you for supporting the Adams Family
7857
7858[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7859Ahh so thats who it is hey there @Tuklus  i am proud to support you guys
7860
7861[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Tuklus#4201
7862@Untrustedlife  I'm @ThreeToe 's wife. Luckily, my health is fine. But 2018 was a challenging year in the Kingdom!
7863
7864{Reactions}
7865? 
7866
7867[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] ThreeToe#2757
7868@Cody Wait, listen to that..... do you smell something?
7869
7870[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Cody#7177
7871omg lol
7872
7873[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7874@Inarius appearently, they're shooting for modular sprites on procedural creatures
7875
7876[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Cruxador#9109
7877@Inarius That's been answered, they should look like what they are, but it's still WIP.
7878
7879[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Tubles#1981
7880Right zeb. That's... also pretty common (almost universal?) for gaming wikis. I'm not sure what your point is.
7881
7882[13-Mar-19 02:17 PM] Tuklus#4201
7883@ThreeToe  you're the good one ?
7884
7885[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] Major Tom#3438
7886@Tarn @ThreeToe https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/1105895110259154944
7887
7888[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7889turns out you can't sell code you don't own who knew
7890
7891[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7892oo will you display things that are one Z-level below? like drawing that level with some dark fade
7893
7894[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] Mask#1378
7895@Tarn Would it be legal and practical for you to send Steam Keys out to people who donate past a certain amount, on your Patreon or such ($20 presumably)? That way, we wouldn't have to give Steam 30% of the $20.
7896
7897[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] zeb#2885
7898@Tubles the point is, Steam destroys indie communities
7899
7900{Reactions}
7901ExcuseMeWtf 
7902
7903[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] Liam#8274
7904That's a good idea
7905
7906[13-Mar-19 02:18 PM] mr_seeker#3552
7907@zeb depends...
7908
7909[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] rethnor#1869
7910@Major Tom what is this steam incentive ?
7911
7912[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
7913@zeb what's that supposed to mean?
7914
7915[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] mount2010#9649
7916knowing tarn he has no idea how to reply to that. hahhah
7917
7918[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] mr_seeker#3552
7919@rethnor check the FAQ
7920
7921[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Pasakoye#3246
7922Is arena mode gonna be on by default? Fun to mess around with sometimes.
7923
7924[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Mask#1378
7925@mount2010 I figure he won't. I wouldn't know the answer either.
7926
7927[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Tubles#1981
7928@zeb [Citation Needed]
7929
7930[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Major Tom#3438
7931@rethnor Vargskelethor loves to stream dwarf fortress and he had plans to do 24h charity dorf stream
7932
7933[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
7934@Pasakoye  i see no reason why they would remove that
7935
7936[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] Mask#1378
7937Haven't studied the Steam terms.
7938
7939[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7940Everyone wishlist it on steam by the way! Wishlisting is important!
7941
7942{Reactions}
7943? (5) 
7944
7945[13-Mar-19 02:19 PM] newveeplus#3297
7946yess!! wishlist!!!
7947
7948[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7949Its a whole thing.
7950
7951[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Scal#1755
7952wishlisting now!
7953
7954[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Scal#1755
7955i'm so hyped
7956
7957[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] mount2010#9649
7958shit i forgot my steam pass >___<
7959
7960[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] zeb#2885
7961@FrankieSmileShow that would mean creating an account
7962
7963[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Qvatch#0476
7964what does wishlisting do?
7965
7966[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
7967algorithms are a butt heeh
7968
7969[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
7970ah it just tells steam
7971
7972[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
7973HEY PPL LIKE THIS
7974
7975[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Kenny#7611
7976I wishlist before it was even published
7977
7978[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
7979haha, well those who got one
7980
7981[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
7982and makes them go "OH OK, YOU SHOULD GET SUPPORT"
7983
7984[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Cody#7177
7985Halo and Dwarf Fortress are the first steam games I've immediately clicked Wishlist with such force and passion
7986
7987[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Major Tom#3438
7988Basically if the game is in wishlist then steam recommends it
7989
7990[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] jilsen#5140
7991Will the original Game music be remastered or put in the game as it?
7992
7993[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] mount2010#9649
7994ill dig it up cuz this game is important to me and i feel its really a big human accomplishment
7995
7996[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
7997yes
7998
7999[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Tubles#1981
8000Probably influences how many people see it pop up on their feeds in various places as well
8001
8002[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Cheesecake#6262
8003i forgot about mcc on steam
8004
8005[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
8006has my vocab become that of a 5 year old trying to read 10 different things at once? yes
8007
8008{Reactions}
8009❤ 
8010
8011[13-Mar-19 02:20 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8012? ? hand over the giant black bears or the tree gets it
8013
8014[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Tubles#1981
8015@jilsen check the FAQ in pins ?
8016
8017[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] newveeplus#3297
8018not the tree D:
8019
8020[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] prog#1750
8021Try to get to epicgames store too!
8022
8023[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8024yeah something being on a number of wishlists is part of what makes steam puts games in the front page on launch
8025
8026[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] jilsen#5140
8027@Tubles sorry - thanks
8028
8029[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Cody#7177
8030this is a good week for games to come on Steam apparently!
8031
8032[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] newveeplus#3297
8033yeaaa... epic hasn't contacted us back at all so WE'LL SEE
8034
8035[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8036I dont remember what the number is
8037
8038[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8039@newveeplus found the elf, jump 'em boys
8040
8041[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] zeb#2885
8042Mort we can work out a tree quota, you hippy
8043
8044[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Mayday#1280
8045@Victoria BTW, we actually haven't met before...? So... hi! Officially! ?
8046
8047[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Mask#1378
8048Hope it works out with Epic.
8049
8050[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] newveeplus#3297
8051Oh yes! Hello @Mayday ? ❤
8052
8053[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Qvatch#0476
8054so will it be early access? or released with a sub 1.0 number?
8055
8056[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8057I did not see this one coming
8058
8059{Reactions}
8060? 
8061
8062[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Cruxador#9109
8063@zeb It was definitely Discord, not Steam, that damaged the Dominions community.
8064
8065[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
8066@newveeplus /  @Tarn  ima head out i have school work to do, good luck dealing with the influx today.
8067
8068[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] jilsen#5140
8069the faq says there's New Music - does that mean the original song isnt there anymore? sorry If I misread it.
8070
8071[13-Mar-19 02:21 PM] newveeplus#3297
8072thank you ❤
8073
8074[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8075@jilsen yeah, new tracks for the different seasons
8076
8077[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mayday#1280
8078Oh, I'm a dev now! Sweet
8079
8080[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8081you can hear some new music in the teaser too
8082
8083[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] jilsen#5140
8084ah man. the original song will definitely be missed
8085
8086[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
8087You didnt notice you had that role? ?
8088
8089[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] jilsen#5140
8090yeah i heard the teaser
8091
8092[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8093haha, a remix of the original guitar song would be cool
8094
8095[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Tubles#1981
8096I'd love some more info about the music as well. can we expect something similar to toady's track?
8097
8098[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8099Hmm, i wonder if you could call in Sabaton
8100
8101[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mayday#1280
8102Dev in one job, tester in another... the internal conflict is tearing me apart, Lisa!
8103
8104[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] rethnor#1869
8105@mr_seeker are you refering the one on Google doc?
8106
8107[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Cheesecake#6262
8108i hope original song is still in
8109
8110[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] newveeplus#3297
8111LOL
8112
8113[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8114@jilsen I'm sure you can swap it back in, at the very least with mods
8115
8116[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] jilsen#5140
8117ye im sure
8118
8119[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] zeb#2885
8120Krugg music would be sweet
8121
8122[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] mr_seeker#3552
8123@rethnor yes
8124
8125[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] clinodev#7030
8126@Mayday  I can assure you @newveeplus is awesome, and you'll either lover her or apparently be chopped to death by her axe. Reports differ.
8127
8128[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] Mayday#1280
8129@Untrustedlife  nope! It's way too hectic in here!
8130
8131[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8132Music DLC is acceptable use of funds.
8133
8134[13-Mar-19 02:22 PM] jilsen#5140
8135but i hope devs reconsider removing the original gameplay song - any newcomers need to experience it
8136
8137[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Kenny#7611
8138Tarn in concert, LIVE, when?
8139
8140[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] rethnor#1869
8141@mr_seeker I don't see anythign about incentives or streams
8142
8143[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Cruxador#9109
8144My opinion on the music: The original should be played in the title sequence. Other songs can take on their own roles in seasonal/contextual cases.
8145
8146[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] mount2010#9649
8147wishlisted! <3
8148
8149[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
8150_disappears with a cape swish_
8151
8152[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Floral (Fee)#9784
8153I have been playing the game for years, and I would like to say that I am excited to see this happen and I look forward to you guys being able to help better fund health and other stuff. ?
8154
8155[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] zeb#2885
8156Will Gaben do a crayon drawing if I preorder?
8157
8158[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Arvis#1911
8159Is there a Dorf Fort role yet?
8160
8161{Reactions}
8162?? (4) 
8163
8164[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8165I haven't checked actually whether its on the FAQ but is the intro movie updated @Mayday in line with the new graphics?
8166
8167[13-Mar-19 02:23 PM] Tubles#1981
8168I haven't seen a dev expand on the music yet, unless I missed something we might be jumping to conclusions.
8169
8170[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8171frankly I'm not too miffed if the tencent fingers are left out of the df pie
8172
8173[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] BlueZest#9442
8174Thats that vlargskelethor guy i mentioned
8175
8176[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8177The internet? Jumping to conclusions? Never.
8178
8179[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Kenny#7611
8180somebody with video skills do an edit of the Starcraft 2 reveal, but with DF
8181
8182[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Cruxador#9109
8183It was mentioned, @Tubles . They've got seasonal music, some sound effects, and one conditional song so far for if there's lots of death.
8184
8185[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8186haha I hope the intro movie is still made out of tiles, just new tiles instead
8187
8188[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Override#1136
8189Gotta say grats on steam. Hiring devs, soon? I love this game
8190
8191[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Mala#7349
8192@Tubles We know there will be seasonal music and sound effects
8193
8194[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Mask#1378
8195@Mayday Not sure if you're receiving feedback at this time, for ramps.
8196
8197If you are: Have you considered something akin to the Advanced Wars tileset, with hills and mountains? That is, rather than a flat, 45 degree angle ramp, you could show half of a rounded hill jutting out of the side, sort of thing.
8198
8199[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] newveeplus#3297
8200Do y'all want the role to be called Dorf Fort??
8201
8202{Reactions}
8203☑ (4) ? (3) uwu (10) 
8204
8205[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Tubles#1981
8206Right, but that doesn't necessarily imply the original track is gone
8207
8208[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] jilsen#5140
8209It should be played during gameplay too but maybe not at all times. I think when season changes it should play the seasonal music for a month or a month and a half then switch back to the original song for the rest of the season. Thanks for all the great work guys!
8210
8211[13-Mar-19 02:24 PM] Qvatch#0476
8212@newveeplus so will it be early access? or released with a sub 1.0 number?
8213
8214[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8215Its that or Urist @newveeplus
8216
8217{Reactions}
8218? (4) 
8219
8220[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Hoophy#5672
8221Dorf Fort
8222
8223[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Arvis#1911
8224Or Urist, yeah
8225
8226{Reactions}
8227❤ 
8228
8229[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] prog#1750
8230it may take a long time to get response from epicgames, but you could try to catch them on one of the upcoming events in person
8231
8232[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] RainFrogs#7863
8233the musician they have in the announcement is named 'Dabu':
8234https://www.dabuaudio.com/
8235
8236[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Hoophy#5672
8237I prefer Urist personally
8238
8239{Reactions}
8240❤ 
8241
8242[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Putnam#0852
8243`so will it be early access? or released with a sub 1.0 number?`
8244
8245[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
8246call it helm plump
8247
8248[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Putnam#0852
8249almost definitely not 1.0 lol
8250
8251[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Mala#7349
8252@newveeplus What about Dorf Miner?
8253
8254[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Mask#1378
8255@Putnam I'd also like to know if this is Early Access.
8256
8257[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8258Urist or Dorf Fort
8259
8260[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Putnam#0852
8261the "what version" game is pretty fun
8262
8263[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Satoru#3036
8264maybe 0.999999999
8265
8266[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Hoophy#5672
8267Urist ✅
8268
8269[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Satoru#3036
8270?
8271
8272[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Putnam#0852
82730.46. that's my prediction
8274
8275[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Arvis#1911
8276Urist is pretty great actually
8277
8278[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Meph#6451
8279Feedback: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173474.0 I opened a thread on Bay12. If people have smart ideas about ramps, trees and the like, post it there.
8280
8281{Embed}
8282http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173474.0
8283Premium DF tileset - Mayday/Meph - Discussion and Suggestions
8284Premium DF tileset - Mayday/Meph - Discussion and Suggestions
8285
8286{Reactions}
8287? 
8288
8289[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Putnam#0852
8290leaning on 0.47
8291
8292[13-Mar-19 02:25 PM] Meph#6451
8293Much better than in a chat where it disappears in 5secs.
8294
8295[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Mask#1378
8296Thanks `Meph`.
8297
8298[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Tubles#1981
8299@newveeplus Run a quick poll with emoji reactions as votes ?
8300
8301[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] RainFrogs#7863
8302oh yea, is it steam early access or a real steam release?  I don't really know the difference, but I assume there is one
8303
8304[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] newveeplus#3297
8305i should haha
8306
8307[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] newveeplus#3297
8308OK
8309
8310[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Meph#6451
8311@Putnam I asked the same. They want to release it as a finished game, not early access.
8312
8313[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Mayday#1280
8314@Mask like Meph said, the forums will be a great place to post feedback, it's a bit too hectic in here
8315
8316[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Cody#7177
8317@newveeplus call the role Tantruming Dwarves
8318
8319[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Putnam#0852
8320interesting
8321
8322[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Scal#1755
8323"Finished game"
8324
8325[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Mask#1378
8326That's true.
8327
8328[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] boobufestu#7071
8329is this the place to ask questiona?
8330
8331[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Hoophy#5672
8332@Meph will you (eventually) update Masterwork to be compatible with the steam version?
8333
8334[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Scal#1755
8335is time infinite ?
8336
8337[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] mount2010#9649
8338yes festu
8339
8340[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] boobufestu#7071
8341ok
8342
8343[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Putnam#0852
8344though to be honest for a game like dwarf fortress there's... really, really no way to tell what complete means
8345
8346[13-Mar-19 02:26 PM] Meph#6451
8347@Hoophy yes, on the day of the steam release.
8348
8349[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] mount2010#9649
8350time infinite. less stress on tarn
8351
8352[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Hoophy#5672
8353epic
8354
8355[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
8356VOTE WITH EMOJIS FOR YOUR NEW ROLE NAMES
8357
8358Dorf Fort: ❤ 
8359Urist: ? 
8360
8361VOTE FOR THE NEXT IDK, 5 MINS AND IT WILL DECIDE YOUR FATES
8362
8363{Reactions}
8364❤ (5) ? (23) 
8365
8366[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Meph#6451
8367So... I want to update the mod BEFORE it comes out.
8368
8369[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Hoophy#5672
8370Masterwork is the cat’s pajamas
8371
8372[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] boobufestu#7071
8373What percentage or amount of sales will go to the original dev?
8374
8375[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Mask#1378
8376It will be complete in time for the Second Coming.
8377
8378[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8379It would probably be more intuitive to use the existing up stair and down stair sprites as ramps on smoothed floors, and have stairs instead look like ladders. Because functionally, that's how they work.
8380
8381[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Tharifas#9525
8382I'm guessing someone  already asked, and I know that in the FAQ you guys said "only steam and itch.io for now" but... how about gog.com? they are super good with consumers (I don't know about publishers) , and I always prefer to get my games there (if not, I guess itch.io will be the place where I get this)
8383
8384[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Qvatch#0476
8385why not the dwarf head?
8386
8387[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8388Completeness is relative
8389
8390[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Satoru#3036
8391DORF FORT OR NOTHING!
8392
8393[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Salin#8356
8394I think the poll is decided lol
8395
8396[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
8397ah. i forgot the dwarf head..
8398
8399{Reactions}
8400DF_Logo_White (2) 
8401
8402[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Hoophy#5672
8403Urist clearly wins
8404
8405[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] mount2010#9649
8406dagger urists!
8407
8408[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8409no work of art is ever truly finish'd
8410
8411[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Cody#7177
8412@newveeplus Moody Dwarf
8413
8414[13-Mar-19 02:27 PM] Meph#6451
8415@Hoophy its the bees knees
8416
8417[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Hoophy#5672
8418The duck’s quack
8419
8420[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] zeb#2885
8421I found this publisher called dffd. They really seem to understand dorf fortress
8422
8423[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] SalmonGod#7530
8424Time is subjective
8425
8426[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] The_Scoundrel_M#4896
8427Dwarf fortress is not only complete but getting progressively more complete-er all the time.
8428
8429[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Putnam#0852
8430you mean dffd.bay12games.com?
8431
8432{Reactions}
8433? 
8434
8435[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
8436Dwarf Fortress is to be released on steam, It was inevitable.
8437
8438[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Putnam#0852
8439i would say that at this point that's official
8440
8441[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Namenlos#1326
8442yeah but df can be incomplete at times too
8443
8444[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] Salin#8356
8445Dwarf Fortress won't be done until Tarn figures out how to refine the simulation to the atomic level.
8446
8447[13-Mar-19 02:28 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8448it was inevitable.
8449
8450[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] zeb#2885
8451Putnam exactly. And guess how much they skim off of top?
8452
8453[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Salin#8356
8454Which will still be single-core
8455
8456[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Mala#7349
8457@Putnam zeb's been going on an anti-steam rampage for ages
8458
8459[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] rethnor#1869
8460@Salin lol!
8461
8462[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Putnam#0852
8463uh, none, because nothing on it is for pay
8464
8465[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Putnam#0852
8466at all
8467
8468[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Cody#7177
8469@Tarn will you be prioritizing some kind of optimization update with the Steam version to help with the "Framerate Death" problem?
8470
8471[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Hoophy#5672
8472I never thought it would come to steam, my heart-rate right now...
8473
8474[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Pasakoye#3246
8475!! Urist !!
8476
8477[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8478dwarf fortress is entering its pre-omega development stage
8479
8480[13-Mar-19 02:29 PM] Tubles#1981
8481@zeb contracts are a thing, man. I'd recommend channeling your energy to something more productive.
8482
8483[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8484@Cody The game recieves incremental optimization with each major release.
8485
8486[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8487why am i here wat is this
8488
8489{Reactions}
8490? (2) pogchamp 
8491
8492[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Hoophy#5672
8493History
8494
8495{Reactions}
8496DF_Logo_White (4) 
8497
8498[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Hoophy#5672
8499My friend
8500
8501[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8502?
8503
8504{Reactions}
8505❤ 
8506
8507[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Cody#7177
8508I kinda argue against that. 34.11 to 40.01 was a massive step back with the world simulation
8509
8510[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8511welcome @Rango Bango
8512
8513[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8514@zeb and guess how much publicity they get, and guess how many people are immediately turned away by the lack of a polished official texture pack that doesn't require you to run around looking for modpacks and overcomplicated launchers
8515
8516[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Scal#1755
8517i'm just here for the magic update, but i'll be buying it day one for sure
8518
8519[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8520thenk
8521
8522[13-Mar-19 02:30 PM] Qvatch#0476
8523framerate death can be somewhat controlled by not crafting everything, not breeding everything
8524
8525[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Namenlos#1326
8526@Tarn Will DF ever have multiple language support?
8527
8528[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] BlueZest#9442
8529Hey rango
8530
8531[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Putnam#0852
8532world simulation caused a dent but it's not the cause of FPS death
8533
8534[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8535I plan on snagging the Steam release as soon as it's out.
8536
8537[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8538Thw rold simulaiton between 34.11 and 40.01 is doing a lot more without much of a slow down. Which means it was optimized to some degree.
8539
8540[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] BlueZest#9442
8541I may have shared the link to the discord in a couple places... ?
8542
8543{Reactions}
8544❤ 
8545
8546[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Hoophy#5672
8547The influx of new players will be glorious
8548
8549[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
8550as long as people stay respectful and nice, all are welcome here ?
8551
8552[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Scal#1755
8553i think a steam release with a proper tutorial could make bank. i think a steam release without a tutorial will still make bank, just because it's one click install with tileset
8554
8555[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] rethnor#1869
8556@Hoophy and horible at the same time
8557
8558[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8559@Qvatch but where's the fun in that? ?
8560
8561[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Qvatch#0476
8562I am unsure :)
8563
8564[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Major Tom#3438
8565@Namenlos the game supports different languages so theyll probably be in the workshop
8566
8567[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Cody#7177
8568depends on the size of the world Agent
8569
8570[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Tubles#1981
8571@Cody Tarn has touched on this a few times already. He cleans things up a bit at a time as the opportunity presents itself, but there's currently no firm plans for a major rewrite or the big multithread update
8572
8573[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Hoophy#5672
8574More people = more mods
8575
8576[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8577More people to help with the !!SCIENCE!! that is needed
8578
8579[13-Mar-19 02:31 PM] Putnam#0852
8580the game doesn't really support different languages very well
8581
8582[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Putnam#0852
8583you have to do some weird binary patching
8584
8585[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8586listen I can say the f word in completely respectful and nice ways come on
8587
8588[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8589As the Wiki is getting a little out of date last time I was on it.
8590
8591[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] valyri#1104
8592fick
8593
8594[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] zeb#2885
8595@Mort Strudel FUN?
8596
8597[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] mount2010#9649
8598fun.
8599
8600[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] ThreeToe#2757
8601Tarn is on the phone with various media people, but we are still here
8602
8603{Reactions}
8604FoxLove (3) 
8605
8606[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8607i keep thinking about making a creature creator application but its :effort: when you can just edit tags
8608
8609[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8610Swearing? Not on mh christian discord server.
8611
8612[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Qvatch#0476
8613sweet
8614
8615[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
8616Multithreaded is a big one for me. It  has so much potential.
8617
8618[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] BOX#4578
8619As long as I can get the tools I use  from the lazy newb pack easily from the steam workshop I'll be very happy
8620
8621[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] mount2010#9649
8622Media people? People covering it already?
8623
8624[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] Putnam#0852
8625less than you think
8626
8627[13-Mar-19 02:32 PM] rethnor#1869
8628I think whale s and ballistas might have been the height of !!SCIENCE!!!
8629
8630[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] zeb#2885
8631Mermaid Bone farming was pretty scientific
8632
8633[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Major Tom#3438
8634@ThreeToe what are your thoughts about the whole steam thing? Are you excited/worried about it?
8635
8636[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8637@TheKoolEagle it's still pretty valid, it'd be better if it had a pre-viewer to work with the steam edition setpieces.
8638
8639[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8640Child fat melting chambers was also a thing
8641
8642[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
8643you all really deserve the attention, I hope this really blows up!
8644
8645[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] ThreeToe#2757
8646Yeah there are already a bunch of short articles online
8647
8648[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Salin#8356
8649I always thought the, uh, "nursery" was the height of dorfen science
8650
8651[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
8652I just want DF on a 36 core CPU. Huge embark size.
8653
8654[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] rethnor#1869
8655There has to be some science involving the trees, I wonder what has been done
8656
8657[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Pasakoye#3246
8658I vote full steam game name to be;
8659Slaves to Armok: God of Blood - Chapter 2: Dwarf Fortress - Histories of Cheese and Wine
8660
8661[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Putnam#0852
8662embark size is unrelated to cores
8663
8664[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] Putnam#0852
8665thankfully you can already have 16x16
8666
8667[13-Mar-19 02:33 PM] rethnor#1869
8668@Salin that was awesome
8669
8670[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] Putnam#0852
8671due to the 64-bit upgrade
8672
8673[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] Salin#8356
8674Disturbing, but awesome.
8675
8676[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] Cody#7177
8677I can't wait to play DF on quantum computers
8678
8679[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
8680But is slows down considerably b/c of all the extra stuff.
8681
8682[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8683Armokvision in oculus support with steam
8684
8685[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] rethnor#1869
8686as is most !!SCIENCE!! in a fort
8687
8688[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8689whoooooaah
8690
8691[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] newveeplus#3297
8692alright y'all
8693
8694[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] zeb#2885
8695quantum DORFputers.
8696
8697[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] newveeplus#3297
8698you can change your role to urist
8699
8700[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] newveeplus#3297
8701go to #deleted-channel
8702
8703[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8704Quantum DF sounds like the hardest thing in the world to program.
8705
8706[13-Mar-19 02:34 PM] Hoophy#5672
8707BEHOLD, THE FIRST NON DEV !!URIST!!
8708
8709[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Putnam#0852
8710it slows down considerably mostly because of weird item stuff and stuff that isn't being cleaned up somewhere or another afaik
8711
8712[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Hoophy#5672
8713HUZZAH!
8714
8715[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Putnam#0852
8716i can't figure out where specifically it might be happening
8717
8718[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] zeb#2885
8719"role" is some discord thing huh?
8720
8721[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8722will meph launcher be supported
8723
8724[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Mayday#1280
8725Taking a break to put the kid to sleep, take care guys, stay !!FUN!!
8726
8727[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Major Tom#3438
8728Quantum df might not lag as much on goblin fortress but i doubt it
8729
8730[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Salin#8356
8731that poor bot
8732
8733[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] BOX#4578
8734in the magic update you'll have computer magic. By using sacrificing elf blood you'll be able to have higher fps
8735
8736[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] cam#7668
8737holy shit this is so exciting
8738
8739[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Salin#8356
8740ooh, green
8741
8742[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8743CONVERT US ALL
8744
8745[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Putnam#0852
8746yes BOX, but you become a little faded every time
8747
8748[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8749hmm
8750
8751[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Mala#7349
8752@FantasticFwoosh that'll be a while. I need to save up for a heaset, and patreon doesn't really give me enough to justify it.
8753
8754[13-Mar-19 02:35 PM] Pasakoye#3246
8755Peasant cyan
8756
8757[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8758Heh.
8759
8760[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
8761Oof
8762
8763[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Hoophy#5672
8764.
8765
8766[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8767Omega oof
8768
8769[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] FantasticFwoosh#3932
8770((also tags dont seem to like me, i am a honorary dwarf))
8771
8772[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] clinodev#7030
8773https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/13/18263905/dwarf-fortress-steam-graphics-workshop
8774
8775[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
8776I appreciate the new role
8777
8778[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Hoophy#5672
8779That was fast polygon
8780
8781[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Sorent#1375
8782.
8783
8784[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] Lukaus#6236
8785urist me Kreygasm
8786
8787[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] newveeplus#3297
8788@FantasticFwoosh it's not working for you?
8789
8790[13-Mar-19 02:36 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8791What will happen to LNP I wonder
8792
8793[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Snooze#4897
8794"The new version will be developed by Kitfox Games" How did they manage to mess up on the first paragraph?
8795
8796[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Scal#1755
8797is the "Upcoming development" part of the official website up to date?
8798
8799[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Putnam#0852
8800which one
8801
8802[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] newveeplus#3297
8803what
8804
8805[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] newveeplus#3297
8806where
8807
8808[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] newveeplus#3297
8809oh god
8810
8811[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Major Tom#3438
8812@Tarn @ThreeToe any plans on improving mouse controls?
8813
8814[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] Putnam#0852
8815http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/dev.html
8816this one is up-to-date
8817
8818[13-Mar-19 02:37 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8819@ArmokGoB LNP will always be there
8820
8821[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8822Hm Urist role ?
8823
8824[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Scal#1755
8825awesome, thanks @Putnam
8826
8827[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Borked Lantern#3580
8828So, still no multithreading then?
8829
8830[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Putnam#0852
8831again
8832
8833[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Putnam#0852
8834it won't cause as much of a boost as you think
8835
8836[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Putnam#0852
8837consider that factorio, a much more deterministic and easy-to-multithread game, hasn't done it explicitly because it doesn't speed the game up much
8838
8839[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8840I don’t blame him for not wanting to do multithreading. It is not easy.
8841
8842[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
8843I don't know why people want to keep delaying The Myth and Magic update.
8844
8845[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] clinodev#7030
8846@ArmokGoB Last I spoke to PeridexisErrant (early early this morning, but after he'd seen the press kit/info, )he was very interested in continuing the Starter Pack/PyLNP, his part anyway.
8847
8848[13-Mar-19 02:38 PM] Cruxador#9109
8849They have no idea what Legends mode is
8850
8851[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Hoophy#5672
8852**Unpopular Opinion: Boats > Magic**
8853
8854[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Tubles#1981
8855He makes small things more threaded as he comes across them (what'd he call it? Minithreading?), but no current plans for the big multithreading overhaul
8856
8857[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Scal#1755
8858yeah guys c'mon, do you know how long the myth and magic update has been on the horizon ?
8859
8860[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8861@Hoophy BOO
8862
8863[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Scal#1755
8864i feel like i've been waiting for years for it lol
8865
8866[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Major Tom#3438
8867@Dragonsploof the magic will come sooner or later
8868
8869[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Hoophy#5672
8870Boat squad sail out
8871
8872[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8873I've worked in HPC before, and well the problem wiht DF is the fact that it's not the type of problem that improves with more threads as tightly coupled as a lot of stuff is
8874
8875[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
8876BOATS
8877
8878[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8879Unpopular opinion: boats == magic
8880
8881[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8882i would enjoy boats and creating a type of harbor fortress
8883
8884[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] zeb#2885
8885The boat stands up! The boat is fighting!
8886
8887[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Major Tom#3438
8888Unpopular opinion law and economics > boats > magic
8889
8890[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8891Multi threading isnt a magical make thing goes faster, and Tarn has ssaid, he doesnt feel it will make much of a difference especially for the time required to completely reengineer the game.  And Tarn is the only that can speak to it because he the coder.
8892
8893[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
8894I guess I need to look into other optimizations then. :/ Life is just easier when I think I know the answer to my problems.
8895
8896[13-Mar-19 02:39 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8897THE CARP STANDS UP
8898
8899{Reactions}
8900❤ (3) ? (4) 
8901
8902[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Meph#6451
8903@Rango Bango Yes, the Meph launcher will be supported, but only by me, Meph. As a private citizen. ?
8904
8905[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8906more government types when
8907
8908[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8909oooo yay
8910
8911[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8912putting dwarves on a boat in deep water is just asking to have everyone drown
8913
8914[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Hoophy#5672
8915@Tarn When you add boats after magic, will magic flying ships be on the table? ?
8916
8917[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Teneb#8323
8918As a *ship* enthusiast, I would not at all be bothered if they came first
8919
8920[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8921just putting dwarves on the beach is going to result in drowned dwarves
8922
8923[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] zeb#2885
8924@TheKoolEagle vampire sailors
8925
8926[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] fire bruh#2908
8927yeah dwarf trade unions when
8928
8929[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8930Who ever hearted the Carp stands up thing must not have been around when they where terrors of the rivers
8931
8932[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
8933Boats soon fellow sailors
8934
8935[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8936boat moddered
8937
8938[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
8939i am still wary of carp
8940
8941[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8942get it cuz mods
8943
8944[13-Mar-19 02:40 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
8945I can't wait to build a raft out of stone blocks.
8946
8947[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8948Keas are the bane of my existence
8949
8950[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Hoophy#5672
8951Shipmurdered
8952
8953[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Hoophy#5672
8954?
8955
8956[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] MarcusAga#7149
8957Hi
8958
8959[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
8960Shipkilled
8961
8962[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] fire bruh#2908
8963gonna do homer's oddysey in adventure mode
8964
8965[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8966The game already does bouncy, stone unless its feather stone or pumice wont float.
8967
8968[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8969Items already float.
8970
8971[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Gamewizard#0580
8972@TheKoolEagle  I still am weary of the carp
8973
8974[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] The_Scoundrel_M#4896
8975Does using steam for distribution give access to any interesting analytics tools to see: for example how many elves have been justifiably slaughtered by players for their nonsense?
8976
8977[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Pasakoye#3246
8978For anyone new, clay can be cut into gems and you can ash glaze stone crafts for great early money.
8979
8980[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] AgentWigggles#6108
8981bounancy
8982
8983[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8984don't mind me folks I'm just sacrificing wild goats to power my blade containing the soul of a necromancer king that lets me open a portal to the fish dimension to raise an army of undead shark men
8985
8986[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
8987but just have fun with your dingys
8988
8989[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
8990This still going on? nice
8991
8992{Reactions}
8993❤ 
8994
8995[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Alehkhs#1307
8996Alternatively, @Tarn will decide that the magic release should be able to recreate the Sorcerer's Apprentice scene from Fantasia, which will lead to flooding, the return of Nile-valley farming, AND boats. :P
8997
8998[13-Mar-19 02:41 PM] Rango Bango#8636
8999imagine not having a mug based economy
9000
9001[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
9002usual AMA's and anwser session would have been done by now hah
9003
9004[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Hoophy#5672
9005Actively tracking all elf deaths via steam, what an idea
9006
9007[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Qvatch#0476
9008he's on the phone with the press
9009
9010[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
9011Is every person from the DF community here
9012
9013[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9014Bag based economy.
9015
9016[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
9017not everyone
9018
9019[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
9020So many big names
9021
9022[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Mala#7349
9023@ArmokGoB yes
9024
9025[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] mount2010#9649
9026*this will also bring people to try kitfox's other games so win win*
9027
9028[13-Mar-19 02:42 PM] Superdorf#1402
9029"Big names" says the blood god!
9030
9031[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] Meph#6451
9032@Captain_Duck pah, I once did a 15h AMA ?
9033
9034[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] trib#3639
9035@Meph  & @Mayday, do you still plan on continuing your own tilesets or focus on this project solely?
9036
9037[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] Alehkhs#1307
9038Joking aside, @Tarn,  are there any plans to bring back seasonal flooding?
9039
9040[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
9041I played Moon Hunters for many hours without remembering who the devs were...
9042
9043[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] SalmonGod#7530
9044*is personally much more likely to check out Kitfox's other games because of this*
9045
9046[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
9047hah thats nuts @Meph
9048
9049[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] newveeplus#3297
9050@ArmokGoB gasp you played?! ❤
9051
9052[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] Lukaus#6236
9053am i a big name
9054
9055{Reactions}
9056? 
9057
9058[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9059Dwarf Fortress speedrun, Gem Encrusted Dirk-based economy only
9060
9061[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9062Remember, Smooth Fortify Dig, wink.
9063
9064[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
9065You bet. I love the repeating story.
9066
9067[13-Mar-19 02:43 PM] mount2010#9649
9068poor Japa has no hand in this thing :( Japa we still remember you keep doing your thing :o
9069
9070[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
9071yo @Captain_Duck
9072
9073[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
9074I'm a tiny bit disappointed that the games full name isn't on the store page.
9075
9076[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9077ive had moon hunters wishlisted forever but havent got it yet >.<
9078
9079[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Meph#6451
9080@trib I've been doing both for the past couple months. So... yeah, I'll still support tilesets for the free DF. It will probably end up more extensive than the official one. You guys know me. ?
9081
9082[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] rethnor#1869
9083@Captain_Duck After watching your videos I was convinced you were engaged to one one of my wife's friends based on your accent
9084
9085[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9086i think i first heard about it on roguelike radio
9087
9088[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
9089all the cool kids are here now
9090
9091{Reactions}
9092? (2) 
9093
9094[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] zeb#2885
9095cat intestine lasagna based economy
9096
9097[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Mala#7349
9098@mount2010 I'm busy anyway
9099
9100[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Hoophy#5672
9101Everybody do /nick ☼yourname ☼
9102
9103[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
9104must have had a dutch friend then @Aperion
9105
9106[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9107I've had Moon Hunters on my wishlist for a bit now, but I'm a little on the unemployed side.
9108
9109[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Hoophy#5672
9110For cool points
9111
9112[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] comrad#9984
9113hi there, will linux be supported? the game descriptions doesnt tell
9114
9115[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Meph#6451
9116@Captain_Duck I was stuck in Kazahkstan and had nothing better to do ?
9117
9118[13-Mar-19 02:44 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9119There was mention of multiple branches to fix bugs and such, is that going to be tricky to manage when merging them back together?
9120
9121[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9122esp after stuff like big wait?
9123
9124[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] rethnor#1869
9125@Captain_Duck yup
9126
9127[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] mount2010#9649
9128meow!
9129
9130[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
9131Why are you stuck in Kazahkstan of all places
9132
9133[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9134meow
9135
9136[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Borked Lantern#3580
9137Any news about including Swerwer`s songs into soundtrack?
9138
9139[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] mount2010#9649
9140@comrad response from tarn: "dunno yet"
9141
9142[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] trib#3639
9143@Meph  Cool, thanks for the answer!
9144
9145[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9146that feel when still no peasant role
9147
9148[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9149@Borked Lantern I suspect that will fall strictly into mod category
9150
9151[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Hoophy#5672
9152@mount2010 @Rango Bango welcome to the club
9153
9154[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Cody#7177
9155ok @Hoophy
9156
9157[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Superdorf#1402
9158I expect Kazahkstan's a pretty easy place to get stuck in.
9159
9160[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9161yay
9162
9163[13-Mar-19 02:45 PM] Putnam#0852
9164`
9165Why are you stuck in Kazahkstan of all places`
9166world bicycling
9167
9168[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Hoophy#5672
9169☼
9170
9171[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] comrad#9984
9172@mount2010 thanks
9173
9174[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Meph#6451
9175Oh, I got fancy ☼ ? Thanks hoophy
9176
9177[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] zeb#2885
9178@Meph Сәлеметсіз бе! Сіз қазақсыз ба?
9179
9180[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Hoophy#5672
9181Copy this: ☼
9182
9183[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9184Peasant cyan, its close enough to a peasant role.
9185
9186[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Sethatos#1607
9187Amazingly, I just overheard 2 random people talking about this announcement on the street outside my office building. I feel like I just saw a unicorn.
9188
9189[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] newveeplus#3297
9190oh cute
9191
9192[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] fire bruh#2908
9193i wanna be stuck in kazakhstan
9194
9195[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Salin#8356
9196I think I did something wrong
9197
9198[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] BlueZest#9442
9199@newveeplus So i just asked you, but im still a little confused on what counts as self promotion or tutorials. I set up an event doing a fresh embark tutorial tonight. Is there anyway to share it in here? I dont want to break the rules. xD
9200
9201[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Pascal#2393
9202How do I give my money for Dwarf fortress on steam
9203
9204[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9205@Sethatos careful not to  provoke it
9206
9207[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] newveeplus#3297
9208@Sethatos are you even in reality
9209
9210[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Meph#6451
9211@ArmokGoB I like cycling, sometimes I end up in weird places
9212
9213[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Cody#7177
9214people are talking about this on the street now? lol
9215
9216[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Superdorf#1402
9217Sethatos: Anybody you know?
9218
9219[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] trib#3639
9220@Sethatos Be careful, if there's unicorns around, elves can't be far behind.
9221
9222[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] Superdorf#1402
9223Or just a couple randoms?
9224
9225[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] newveeplus#3297
9226@BlueZest feel free to share! we jsut had problems with people spamming their links all the time and not participating in discussion ?
9227
9228[13-Mar-19 02:46 PM] mount2010#9649
9229df should just take over reality
9230
9231[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Meph#6451
9232@zeb Ehm... Remember: No Russian.
9233
9234[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] BlueZest#9442
9235@newveeplus Gotcha! Thank you ^^
9236
9237[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Captain_Duck#4172
9238a buddy of mine also went through kazakhstan like that..... but in a SUV hah, not a bike
9239
9240[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9241we wud all die if df was real life
9242
9243[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Hoophy#5672
9244>implying reality isn’t already df
9245
9246[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
9247reality is just a more sophisticated, more realistic dwarf fortress
9248
9249[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
9250yeah
9251
9252[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9253How far out is villains anyway? It's been probably around nine months by now
9254
9255[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Sethatos#1607
9256@Superdorf Never seen them before. Lots of tourists in my part of the city though.
9257
9258[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
9259im gonna go strike the earth in my back yard
9260
9261[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9262kind of a big wait in its own right
9263
9264[13-Mar-19 02:47 PM] carloskita#7975
9265very excited for the steam release
9266
9267[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] fire bruh#2908
9268very excited in general
9269
9270[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Theoria#1842
9271the masterpiece usernames are genius
9272
9273[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Mala#7349
9274I think I did this wrong
9275
9276[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Salin#8356
9277You and me both, man
9278
9279[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Rango Bango#8636
9280lol
9281
9282[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Superdorf#1402
9283Ah, alright then. A rare sighting indeed-- the wild neckbeard on its migration!
9284
9285[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Theoria#1842
9286also Joel from Vinesauce wants to do a 24 hour charity stream to celebrate
9287
9288[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Hoophy#5672
9289☼ <— copy this @Theoria
9290
9291[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] mount2010#9649
9292i call six months if all goes well
9293
9294[13-Mar-19 02:48 PM] Salin#8356
9295I'm putting money on 2-3 years
9296
9297[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Hoophy#5672
9298Lol what
9299
9300[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Cody#7177
9301I might be mixing up my devs but I believe Tarn said they are focusing on smaller dev cycles now
9302
9303[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
9304there we go
9305
9306[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Hoophy#5672
9307@Dragonslayerelf looking snazzy there
9308
9309[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Cody#7177
9310so it shouldn't be 2 years again
9311
9312[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Swiggle#0616
9313I'm calling November release.
9314
9315[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9316@Cody I mean big wait is on the horizon
9317
9318[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Salin#8356
9319yeah, I just found the game in the middle of a *really* long update drought
9320
9321[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] mount2010#9649
9322broken.
9323
9324[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9325smaller dev cycles are good.
9326
9327[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Salin#8356
9328so I like to joke about it
9329
9330[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] fire bruh#2908
9331tattered
9332
9333[13-Mar-19 02:49 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9334so 2 years would be optimistic
9335
9336[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
9337they might've already been working on it
9338
9339[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Putnam#0852
9340myth and magic is a monolith
9341
9342[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] w3d2m#2250
9343Привет, когда  примерно игра выйдет?
9344
9345[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Putnam#0852
9346i can't imagine how it could come piecemeal
9347
9348[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Cody#7177
9349myth and magic would make me so happy
9350
9351[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Dragonslayerelf#4334
9352privet
9353
9354[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Salin#8356
9355I think it was 2011 when I found DF?
9356
9357[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] clinodev#7030
9358@Cody You're thinking another dev.
9359
9360[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] fire bruh#2908
9361i wonder what the dwarf fortress my grandchildren will play will be like
9362
9363[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Salin#8356
9364then no updates until 2014 ?
9365
9366[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Qvatch#0476
9367villians still needs to release
9368
9369[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] BlueZest#9442
9370Have y'all got someone you want to get into Dwarf Fortress? In celebration for the steam release im doing a FRESH EMBARK tutorial tonight. You can download a starter pack and play along! (link to pack on event page) https://www.twitch.tv/events/3gMkGPENTzu163L_lr4nBw
9371
9372{Reactions}
9373❤ (6) ? (5) DF_Logo_White (3) 
9374
9375[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9376Are we getting an in game way of deleting worlds? Currently we have to manually do it.
9377
9378{Reactions}
9379FoxLove (2) 
9380
9381[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Hoophy#5672
9382Villains is soon
9383
9384[13-Mar-19 02:50 PM] Enemy post#7314
9385Can't wait to see what the community looks like with Steam support + Myth & Magic.
9386
9387[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9388that wouldn't really make sense, you can't be "already working" on something so massive while also working on villains, you can't just have those be separate branches and merge them
9389
9390[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] newveeplus#3297
9391hey hey @BlueZest, feel free to DM me on Twitter when you go live and I can RT it on the Kitfox account https://twitter.com/TheVTran
9392
9393{Embed}
9394https://twitter.com/TheVTran
9395Victoria Tran ? GDC (@TheVTran)
9396Evolved meat unit ✧ Community Dev at @KitfoxGames - making Boyfriend Dungeon ✧ 1/2 of @peachbuttcomics ✧ she/her ✧ @GameLoopMTL co-organizer
9397Tweets
93985556
9399Followers
94002398
9401https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1070471383350562816/7InIHPmE_normal.jpg
9402Twitter
9403
9404{Reactions}
9405DF_Logo_White (2) 
9406
9407[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] Cody#7177
9408I can't wait to see the game blow up on Steam
9409
9410[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] BlueZest#9442
9411Cool beans! will do!
9412
9413[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] BlueZest#9442
9414I can also tweet the event
9415
9416[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] Salin#8356
9417super neat
9418
9419[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] newveeplus#3297
9420ah perfect, whatever works
9421
9422[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] newveeplus#3297
9423?
9424
9425[13-Mar-19 02:51 PM] Hoophy#5672
9426@newveeplus will DF be advertised?
9427
9428{Reactions}
9429? 
9430
9431[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9432like... will we pay people to advertise it?
9433
9434[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9435Nah
9436
9437[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9438I would hope so!
9439
9440[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9441technically it already HAS been advertised with the teaser
9442
9443[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Hoophy#5672
9444Ok
9445
9446[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9447Like we're going to email press and streamers and stuff
9448
9449[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Cody#7177
9450the community will advertise it enough lol
9451
9452[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] mount2010#9649
9453yup
9454
9455[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9456but not like "HERE'S $20K PLZ PUBLISH AN ARTICLE"
9457
9458[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Tanya_KitfoxGames#1296
9459paying for advertisements has rarely been worth it in our history
9460
9461[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9462putting it on steam is advertisement in its own right
9463
9464[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Cody#7177
9465it's gonna drop like a bomb when it's available for purchase
9466
9467{Reactions}
9468? 
9469
9470[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Superdorf#1402
9471There's enough voices here. The news'll get around.
9472
9473[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9474it's already dropping like a bomb hahaha
9475
9476[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9477it's not gonna bomb don't say things like that
9478
9479[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Hoophy#5672
9480Thanks for responding, good to know
9481
9482[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] Putnam#0852
9483dwarf fortress has had enough guerilla advertising for a lifetime
9484
9485[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9486oh true
9487
9488[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9489not bomb
9490
9491[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9492uh..
9493
9494[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9495.......
9496
9497[13-Mar-19 02:52 PM] newveeplus#3297
9498do.... very well...
9499
9500[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9501CATSPLOSION
9502
9503{Reactions}
9504? (4) 
9505
9506[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Superdorf#1402
9507We always did just fine on word of mouth before.
9508
9509[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Salin#8356
9510it's gonna spread like a tantrum spiral
9511
9512[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Putnam#0852
9513news like this is like "pie in the sky wildest dreams came true" news so it's going to spread too
9514
9515[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] JPolito#7109
9516Do you think there will be micro transactions to get better skill level dwarves on startup
9517
9518[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] zeb#2885
9519omg plz no
9520
9521[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9522it'll be like a circus
9523
9524[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Salin#8356
9525this isn't EA
9526
9527[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Superdorf#1402
9528It's gonna spread like that one puddle of camel blood that never, ever goes away.
9529
9530[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] BenLubar#7057
9531Here's a message I posted on a site hosted by the DFHack build server:
9532
9533https://mastodon.lubar.me/@ben/101744837541413056
9534
9535{Reactions}
9536❤ 
9537
9538[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Cody#7177
9539we forgot to ask Tarn if there will be Lootboxes
9540
9541[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9542microtransactions to geld cats.
9543
9544[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Qvatch#0476
9545I could never tell if something being a bomb was a good thing or not
9546
9547[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Musaab Osman#2902
9548i'm looking forward to this
9549
9550[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Salin#8356
9551it'll be as disruptive as a butterfly corpse in your fort's front door
9552
9553[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] newveeplus#3297
9554lootboxes and microtransactions confirmed (jk jk)
9555
9556{Reactions}
9557? (4) savOHGOD (4) scheme_hands (2) 
9558
9559[13-Mar-19 02:53 PM] Alehkhs#1307
9560@Meph and @Mayday , are forgotten beast tiles going to be handled like hominids, with "paper doll" parts that can be added and swapped out based upon the in-game description?
9561
9562[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9563@Alehkhs I believe them mentioned they were looking into this yes
9564
9565[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Cody#7177
9566I'm saving that quote @newveeplus
9567
9568[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] zeb#2885
9569pay an extra $5 to embark directly inside the circus
9570
9571{Reactions}
9572? (2) 
9573
9574[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
9575oh no
9576
9577[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Mala#7349
9578Look at these fools with two exclamation marks instead of the burning symbol. Psht.
9579
9580[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
9581@newveeplus whats the best way for press contact?  DM via twitter?
9582
9583{Reactions}
9584FoxLove 
9585
9586[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Hoophy#5672
9587Pay $5 to delete all trees
9588
9589[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Meph#6451
9590@Alehkhs That's the plan. ?
9591
9592{Reactions}
9593? 
9594
9595[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Putnam#0852
9596for $30 you get access to the *real* dwarf fortress. the even more in-depth simulation kept hidden from everyone.
9597
9598[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] JPolito#7109
9599unlock "sim city mode", allowing them to directly edit any tile
9600
9601[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9602you get to buy in-game items that are procgenned bits of absurd merch
9603
9604[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Superdorf#1402
9605Wait, two exclamation marks *isn't* the burning symbol?
9606
9607[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] newveeplus#3297
9608info[at]kitfoxgames[dot]com @TheKoolEagle
9609
9610{Reactions}
9611? 
9612
9613[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Liam#8274
9614Pay $5 to double cat breeding rate
9615
9616[13-Mar-19 02:54 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9617$5 for lava on any embark.
9618
9619[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] JPolito#7109
9620the new matchmaking service will pit you against similarly ranked players. dwarf fortress is now always on mulitplayer! forge alliances, wage war, and compete in our procedurally generated open world in real time.
9621
9622[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] rethnor#1869
9623microtransaction for adventure mode forgotten beast, pick your pay, pay for more part types
9624
9625[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Hoophy#5672
9626Pay $30 to get access to REAL LIFE
9627
9628[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Salin#8356
9629dammit that would actually be nice
9630
9631[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Salin#8356
9632just drop a volcano into the embark
9633
9634[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] newveeplus#3297
9635$5 to change your role on Discord
9636
9637[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Mala#7349
9638@Superdorf burning symbol is a single character
9639
9640[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9641$2.99 to get through an aquifer.
9642
9643[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] JPolito#7109
9644for a small monthly fee, you can "freeze" your fortress from outside players while not in game
9645
9646[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9647Lava is already on every embark.
9648
9649[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] newveeplus#3297
9650all y'all with Urist roles are screwed
9651
9652[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Cody#7177
9653$5 to reskin your nobles from purple to peasant cyan
9654
9655[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Superdorf#1402
9656Huh. I never noticed.
9657
9658[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] trib#3639
9659DF Lootboxes: Coffins that may contain valuable items or horrible demons
9660
9661[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] zeb#2885
9662pay $5 to get $5 with an image of $5 on it
9663
9664[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] trib#3639
9665Call them clown cars
9666
9667[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Salin#8356
9668pls no
9669
9670[13-Mar-19 02:55 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
9671Oh, another quick thing. Do you guys have anyone lined up to do the soundtrack yet? The easiest route would probably be getting the people who worked on soundsense to make some more tracks.
9672
9673[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Putnam#0852
9674i
9675
9676[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Salin#8356
9677the only time I've ever survived opening the circus was when I did it deliberately and funneled them into an obsidian caster
9678
9679[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Putnam#0852
9680i'm pretty sure soundsense uses some royalty-free tracks
9681
9682[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Aldos Mora#7125
9683I know simon swerwer made some really good music that fit the theme of DF quite well
9684
9685[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9686the lootboxes already exist, theyre whenever you dig a down stairway into a huge chasm
9687
9688[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9689soundsense was like half royalty free stuff
9690
9691[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9692swerwer is legit tho
9693
9694[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Cruxador#9109
9695@Aldos Mora They do. I hope they can get Simon Swerwer on the job though
9696
9697[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] newveeplus#3297
9698we do have sound lined up!
9699
9700[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] rethnor#1869
9701@trib I thought DF already had that kind of loot"box"
9702
9703[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] trib#3639
9704@Salin This is why you always make a plug ready to block the only way into to the fortress
9705
9706[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Meph#6451
9707I'd pay that 2.99 to get rid of Aquifers
9708
9709[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9710I've never made it that far into a fortress, but I get closer with each embark.
9711
9712[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] orkel#5396
9713Very surprised and happy to see the game come to steam. But this makes one thing very important - bugfixing. There are bugs that haven't been fixed in almost a decade, like military equipment issues and Healthcare issues, , that are desperately in need of fixing
9714
9715[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] JPolito#7109
9716Or use dfhack for freeeeee
9717
9718[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] trib#3639
9719@rethnor This one you could pay for!
9720
9721[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Salin#8356
9722Nah @Meph it's 2.99 for each tile you dig through an aquifer
9723
9724[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9725I would too. Aquifers are the bane of my existence.
9726
9727[13-Mar-19 02:56 PM] rethnor#1869
9728@trib oh, much better then!
9729
9730[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] mount2010#9649
9731they picked the best people to publish with no doubt
9732
9733[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Superdorf#1402
9734They're nice for a water supply. Not so nice when you're trying to pump magma to the surface.
9735
9736[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9737Clay never has aquifers, dig through that if you can. Otherwise chop a tree and start pumping.
9738
9739[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Putnam#0852
9740yeah DF has lootboxes. it's called "tetrahedrite", and it's very generous. 100% chance of copper AND a 50% chance of silver!
9741
9742[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Cody#7177
9743I personally disable aquifers, the micromanagement is too annoying @Twinklebreeze
9744
9745[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Hoophy#5672
9746Will there be optional UI tweaks by chance?
9747
9748[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Cruxador#9109
9749@newveeplus Did Simon Swerwer turn you down or could you not get in contact? Or did nobody think of it?
9750
9751[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Majickthise#9497
9752Aquifers ruin so many embarks.  Too much FUN for my games.
9753
9754[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Salin#8356
9755ditto, I've never played an actual game with aquifers
9756
9757[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9758Yeah, I won't embark with one. Probably should just disable them.
9759
9760[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Qvatch#0476
9761aquifers let you have a little extra fun
9762
9763[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9764I would pay anything for that sweet sweet lignite
9765
9766[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] zeb#2885
9767plug dropping is so satisfying
9768
9769[13-Mar-19 02:57 PM] Meph#6451
9770First mod on Steam: NO AQUIFERS!
9771
9772[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Superdorf#1402
9773It's not so hard to pump through. Just slow and fiddly.
9774
9775[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Matthew#9973
9776Will TWBT be included?
9777
9778[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] trib#3639
9779Aquifers are not even hard to get through, just tedious.
9780
9781[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] rethnor#1869
9782@Putnam I was thinking of the candy weapons that can be found deep in the caverns, not sure if they are still in the game
9783
9784[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] newveeplus#3297
9785hmmm......... prob a question for Tanya @Cruxador , I don't handle the contracts :3 But she's currently doing business stuff sooo maybe save for AMA
9786
9787[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Satoru#3036
9788@newveeplus see you gotta rebrand them like Larian called them "Gift bags" for Original Sin 2. So we just need a rebranding. Like "Treasure Chests" yeah see that sounds great and is thematically consistent. Treasure Chest DLC confirmed ?
9789
9790[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Hoophy#5672
9791Pumping an aquifer is more entertaining than using the concentric rings technique
9792
9793[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9794I was considering plug dropping just the other day.
9795
9796[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Salin#8356
9797I'll just use a river and funnel water WHEREVER I WANT DANG IT
9798
9799[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Cody#7177
9800I wish I could post memes in here.
9801
9802[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Putnam#0852
9803for $1 you get a third tier of coal
9804
9805[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Salin#8356
9806and *only* where I want
9807
9808[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9809Screwpump are easy to make with trees giving multiple logs first thing I make for fresh water or dealing with aquifer.
9810
9811[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] SalmonGod#7530
9812I've tried a few times to do aquifer piercing
9813
9814[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] SalmonGod#7530
9815my god is it hard
9816
9817[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] fire bruh#2908
9818magma aquifer gang
9819
9820[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] SalmonGod#7530
9821I think I got through once
9822
9823[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Satoru#3036
9824$100 to ressurect a dead save
9825
9826[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Matthew#9973
9827Will TWBT be included or some multi-level rendering?
9828
9829[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9830garsh I love spending the first 6 months of the fort pumping water around, only to find a second aquifer underneath
9831
9832[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] TwistedMinds#1289
9833Putnam: eh, I've heard they give free candy in you look at little. Even better than silver
9834
9835[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Sethatos#1607
9836I think it's a great deal for both parties. Bay 12 gets a dedicated publisher who can dedicate time to promoting it even without say, advertising dollars. Kitfox gets a 13 year established brand with a dedicated player base, and a committed  and proven development team. Plus Kitfox is Canadian so obvious bonus points.
9837
9838{Reactions}
9839? (6) ? 
9840
9841[13-Mar-19 02:58 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
9842+-Lol. The FB DF group is crashed.
9843
9844[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] zeb#2885
9845Matthew there's always DF classic
9846
9847[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] FrankieSmileShow#4091
9848guaranteed bituminous coal embark location I would def pay 5$ for
9849
9850[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
9851$1 to repair all the clothes in the fort.
9852
9853[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
9854There it goes
9855
9856[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Matthew#9973
9857@zeb yes but I want the new graphics and audio and TWBT
9858
9859[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] vesno#5418
9860@newveeplus you mentioned contacting streamers, maybe you know of him but Vargskelethor streams df and has a pretty big audience
9861
9862[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Pasakoye#3246
9863Tax Bit Coal
9864
9865[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] jo#8254
9866if you want volcanoes/coal/etc., just use dfhack
9867
9868[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Putnam#0852
9869joel is talkin bout it on twitter
9870
9871[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] newveeplus#3297
9872@vesno oooh yeah, @clinodev mentioned him!
9873
9874[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
9875NO COAL TAXATION WITHOUT COAL REPRESENTATION
9876
9877[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] trib#3639
9878Any plans on trying to coax Kruggsmash off his own Tileset for a series at least to try the new one?
9879
9880[13-Mar-19 02:59 PM] fire bruh#2908
9881when are we getting earth quakes in dwarf fortress
9882
9883[13-Mar-19 03:00 PM] Hoophy#5672
9884Hopefully TWBT gets updated
9885
9886[13-Mar-19 03:00 PM] orkel#5396
9887Fixing decade old bugs should take priority over new content when steam release happens
9888
9889[13-Mar-19 03:00 PM] BlueZest#9442
9890BTW, Wassssupp fellow social media manager @newveeplus *highfive*
9891
9892[13-Mar-19 03:00 PM] zeb#2885
9893createitem PLANT_MAT:PAPER:FIVE_DOLLARS
9894
9895[13-Mar-19 03:00 PM] ThreeToe#2757
9896Yeah, that Facebook thing is funny.  My wife was trying to add the announcement to the Bay12 page and can't cause FB broke down
9897
9898*******************************************************************************
9899Begin Intermission
9900
9901(Much trimming while Tarn and Zach are away, trying to get the file size down for pastebin. I've tried to retain context, Dev comments, and historically important moments.)
9902
9903
9904[13-Mar-19 03:02 PM] Mayday#1280
9905@trib  I'm not planning to continue work on my first tileset, as I don't feel it was actually my work
9906
9907
9908[13-Mar-19 03:04 PM] zeb#2885
9909How much modding is it going to take to get a Steam install back up to basic LNP/Meph functionality?
9910
9911
9912[13-Mar-19 03:05 PM] Meph#6451
9913@Putnam yeah, I will be so happy to get rid of twbt/dfhack crashes for my stuff...
9914
9915[13-Mar-19 03:06 PM] Meph#6451
9916@Matthew most TWBT features have been discussed and should be (best case) included in DF in future by default
9917
9918[13-Mar-19 03:07 PM] Meph#6451
9919@zeb not much, since the base game behind the graphics stays the same. I plan to have a working Launcher ready on release day.
9920
9921
9922
9923
9924[13-Mar-19 03:23 PM] Sethatos#1607
9925@Meph In versions past tilesets would always have a delay behind releases. Does this mean now that the Steam tileset will be updated alongside new versions, or will there still be a delay between say DF Classic release and Steam as the tileset gets  updated with new sprites, etc ?
9926
9927[13-Mar-19 03:24 PM] Meph#6451
9928@Sethatos Best case scenario Mike or me gets a heads-up and supply the sprites for the new versions on release.
9929
9930
9931[13-Mar-19 03:36 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
9932the last waterfall I implemented resulted in at least 3 dwarven deaths a season
9933
9934[13-Mar-19 03:37 PM] TheKoolEagle#0213
9935it was beautiful
9936
9937[13-Mar-19 03:37 PM] clinodev#7030
9938@TheKoolEagle If only someone had warned you. Repeatedly. Night after night.
9939
9940[13-Mar-19 03:39 PM] Kaleb#5978
9941When will we get DFhack Meph? Or can it be a workshop item?
9942
9943
9944[13-Mar-19 03:43 PM] Putnam#0852
9945dfhack will still work after the update, more than likely
9946
9947[13-Mar-19 03:43 PM] Putnam#0852
9948i sincerely doubt it'll break
9949
9950[13-Mar-19 03:48 PM] zeb#2885
9951@Mort Strudel the new tileset, if it's any good, will be available in Meph's launcher too. No steam keys needed.
9952
9953[13-Mar-19 03:48 PM] Yumeido#4713
9954Meph said on the reddit thread that he doesn't own the tileset assets anymore, he sold them to Bay12.
9955
9956[13-Mar-19 03:49 PM] shaggy#1396
9957is this like the official dwarf fortress discord now
9958
9959[13-Mar-19 03:49 PM] Yumeido#4713
9960It's up to Bay12 if they wanna release the tilesets for free
9961
9962[13-Mar-19 03:49 PM] Meph#6451
9963@zeb @Mort Strudel the new tileset won't be available in my launcher, because I don't have the rights to use the sprites (that I made) ^^
9964
9965[13-Mar-19 03:49 PM] clinodev#7030
9966@shaggy Yes, official according to the publisher.
9967
9968[13-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Sasha#3957
9969And good to see Japa in here too.
9970
9971[13-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Sasha#3957
9972Wait...wrong Japa.
9973
9974[13-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Mala#7349
9975Wait
9976
9977[13-Mar-19 03:51 PM] Mala#7349
9978Is there another Japa?
9979
9980[13-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Mala#7349
9981Do I need to deal with this imposter?
9982
9983[13-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Sasha#3957
9984You're the imposter :b
9985
9986[13-Mar-19 03:52 PM] Alehkhs#1307
9987Not sure why Bay12 would release the tileset for free when it's one of the main selling points for the paid version.
9988
9989[13-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Sasha#3957
9990And Japa, there's a guy named Japa Mala who makes a viewer utility called Armok Vision.
9991
9992[13-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Mala#7349
9993Hm.....
9994
9995[13-Mar-19 03:53 PM] Mala#7349
9996Anybody want to tell them?
9997
9998[13-Mar-19 03:53 PM] clinodev#7030
9999@Mala Nope!
10000
10001[13-Mar-19 04:04 PM] Sethatos#1607
10002@orkel There's also a pretty severe crash that comes with the equipment bug. If you conquer sites, the equipment bug will crash the game pretty consistently. The only way to fix it right now is to disband all of your squads.
10003
10004[13-Mar-19 04:04 PM] Mala#7349
10005There we go.
10006
10007[13-Mar-19 04:04 PM] Mala#7349
10008Now I'm verified ?
10009
10010
10011
10012[13-Mar-19 04:08 PM] Meph#6451
10013@newveeplus are ballistas bad? https://i.imgur.com/PDRRCjt.png
10014
10015{Embed}
10016https://imgur.com/PDRRCjt
10017https://i.imgur.com/PDRRCjt.png
10018
10019[13-Mar-19 04:08 PM] newveeplus#3297
10020perma-banned
10021
10022[13-Mar-19 04:08 PM] newveeplus#3297
10023sorry everyone
10024
10025[13-Mar-19 04:08 PM] newveeplus#3297
10026rip @Meph
10027
10028[13-Mar-19 04:12 PM] Meph#6451
10029There is a really cool mod with cannons and RPGs: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171742.msg7831600#msg7831600
10030
10031{Embed}
10032http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=171742.msg7831600
10033[44.12] Musket-Mod v0.5c: Experimental Wall Breaching
10034[44.12] Musket-Mod v0.5c: Experimental Wall Breaching
10035
10036[13-Mar-19 04:12 PM] Cruxador#9109
10037https://i.4cdn.org/vg/1552493235811.png This is the timeline he posted when I asked for info further in the future than the FAQ discusses.
10038
10039[13-Mar-19 04:12 PM] Putnam#0852
10040@Cruxador that's *exactly* what Toady said
10041
10042[13-Mar-19 04:12 PM] Putnam#0852
10043https://discordapp.com/channels/329272032778780672/555404726817259580/555452224789282837
10044
10045[13-Mar-19 04:12 PM] Putnam#0852
10046`yeah, DF classic modders will be able to do their own extensive tilesets with the same features, like transparency and the grass edging and all that.`
10047
10048[13-Mar-19 04:13 PM] Meph#6451
10049I'm still sorry that I mucked this up: "yeah, DF classic modders will be able to do their own extensive tilesets with the same features, like transparency and the grass edging and all that" I didn't know about that!
10050
10051[13-Mar-19 04:14 PM] rethnor#1869
10052@Meph is that not true, or were you not supposed ot share that?
10053
10054[13-Mar-19 04:14 PM] Cruxador#9109
10055@Putnam that quote does not say anything about which release it comes with.
10056
10057[13-Mar-19 04:14 PM] Qvatch#0476
10058it's right in the pateron post
10059
10060[13-Mar-19 04:14 PM] clinodev#7030
10061That moment where you've looked away and there are 240 missed Discord messages, and you just scroll to the bottom, just like last time.
10062
10063[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] Flux#3000
10064Can't wait for the workshop to help me with my stupid dwarf tricks
10065
10066[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] Putnam#0852
10067WAIT
10068
10069[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] Putnam#0852
10070STEAM WORKSHOP
10071
10072[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] newveeplus#3297
10073YEAAA
10074
10075[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] Putnam#0852
10076I CAN FINALLY RELEASE MY LITTLE MODULAR MODS AS ACTUAL LITTLE MODULAR MODS
10077
10078[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] Putnam#0852
10079YES
10080
10081[13-Mar-19 04:16 PM] newveeplus#3297
10082STEAM WORKSHOP
10083
10084[13-Mar-19 04:17 PM] Meph#6451
10085@rethnor I simply misunderstood something Tanya told me earlier. I thought that the groundwork, the graphics API would be exclusive to Steam DF. That's wrong, and the free DF will get the same upgrade, just without the sprites.
10086
10087[13-Mar-19 04:18 PM] Meph#6451
10088@clinodev So far I read everything! Do I get cookies now?
10089
10090[13-Mar-19 04:19 PM] Mala#7349
10091@Meph I have some peanutbutter cookies I made last night, if you want some
10092
10093[13-Mar-19 04:20 PM] TwistedMinds#1289
10094kitfox is based in montreal?
10095
10096[13-Mar-19 04:20 PM] clinodev#7030
10097@Meph I have it on good authority from @BlueZest that all the cookies are mine, actually.
10098
10099[13-Mar-19 04:20 PM] newveeplus#3297
10100yup, we're in Montreal~ @TwistedMinds
10101
10102[13-Mar-19 04:22 PM] BlueZest#9442
10103ITs true, clino owns all the cookies
10104
10105[13-Mar-19 04:25 PM] trib#3639
10106@Meph Can you post a teaser of a workshop?
10107
10108[13-Mar-19 04:26 PM] David Holmes#0369
10109Can we expect Steam DF to be compatible with current 3rd-party tools like Dwarf Therapist?  I know they obvs can't be supported "officially"; I'm just wondering if there's any major technical obstacle
10110
10111[13-Mar-19 04:26 PM] Meph#6451
10112@trib... I'll go out on a limb here and say yes.
10113
10114[13-Mar-19 04:26 PM] Meph#6451
10115@newveeplus may I please post a picture of workshops, pretty please?
10116
10117[13-Mar-19 04:26 PM] Putnam#0852
10118`Can we expect Steam DF to be compatible with current 3rd-party tools like Dwarf Therapist?  I know they obvs can't be supported "officially"; I'm just wondering if there's any major technical obstacle
10119`
10120probably going to be a bit harder to update than previous versions due to the graphics changes, but it still uses SDL so it won't be impossible
10121
10122{Reactions}
10123? 
10124
10125[13-Mar-19 04:26 PM] Cruxador#9109
10126@Meph , Mayhem already posted a forge
10127
10128End Intermission
10129*****************************************************************************
10130
10131[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Tarn#6100
10132@fire bruh dwarves used to dream about undead invasions, back when it was a special event.  I don't think they dream now, but maybe that's for the best then
10133
10134[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] akolacinska#6487
10135let us see the workshops ?
10136
10137[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Tarn#6100
10138Um, I just got back and have missed some questions
10139
10140{Reactions}
10141❤ (3) 
10142
10143[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] fire bruh#2908
10144yeah it would just be nightmares anyway
10145
10146[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10147Hello, Tarn!
10148
10149[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Yumeido#4713
10150ToadyOne :pogchamp:
10151
10152[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Tarn#6100
10153Hi @zsielous [TOMORROW] !
10154
10155[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Meph#6451
10156Hehe, you might have missed one or two questions... ?
10157
10158[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] trib#3639
10159Just a couple
10160
10161[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] RainFrogs#7863
10162I'm sure they'll all be repeated a bunch of times tomorrow during the AMA
10163
10164[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10165:DwarfNoble:
10166
10167[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Tidal Waveforms#4263
10168@Tarn  Don't worry, there were only 12,532,214 of them.
10169
10170[13-Mar-19 04:27 PM] Remaille#8493
10171:hello: Hi Tarn
10172
10173[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Tarn#6100
10174YUMEIDO
10175
10176[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Alphastring#7401
10177We were just talking about how you were going to open source the game ?
10178
10179[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] ThreeToe#2757
10180busy stuffing our faces
10181
10182[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Meph#6451
10183@Tarn are you ok if I post the workshop mock-ups?
10184
10185[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] fire bruh#2908
10186Thank you Mr. Tarn im not worthy ?
10187
10188[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Tarn#6100
10189Hi @Remaille !
10190
10191[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] fire bruh#2908
10192have a good lunch
10193
10194[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Hoophy#5672
10195Tarn:
10196*Checks pings*
10197*Dies*
10198
10199[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Putnam#0852
10200sorry workshop graphics i'm still reeling from this
10201
10202[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] newveeplus#3297
10203heh
10204
10205[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Tarn#6100
10206@Meph Yeah, stuff is always subject to change, but you can post stuff that you and Mike are comfortable enough with
10207
10208[13-Mar-19 04:28 PM] Putnam#0852
10209somehow i never even considered that they'd end up in the game any time soon
10210
10211[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Meph#6451
10212In that case, BRACE YOURSELF!
10213
10214[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] trib#3639
10215Let us bask in the glory of workshops!
10216
10217[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Meph#6451
10218https://i.imgur.com/qpu6c8J.png
10219
10220{Embed}
10221https://imgur.com/qpu6c8J
10222https://i.imgur.com/qpu6c8J.png
10223
10224{Reactions}
10225? (2) ❤ (2) 
10226
10227[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
10228teeny
10229
10230[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
10231hehe
10232
10233[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] ToadDude#5175
10234holy crap that's a lot hah
10235
10236[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] zeb#2885
10237rip my phone
10238
10239[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Tarn#6100
10240he he, microshops
10241
10242[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Meph#6451
10243Open in a new tab and zoom please ?
10244
10245[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Parse#2722
10246WHAT DF with GRAPHICS?
10247
10248[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] trib#3639
10249That is slick as hell, Meph
10250
10251[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Kruggsmash#0286
10252ohh that is dope as heck
10253
10254[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] ToadDude#5175
10255those look great man
10256
10257[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
10258@Parse no you're just dreaming
10259
10260[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] trib#3639
10261Well done Mike and you!
10262
10263[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Putnam#0852
10264mm, they even got the colors
10265
10266[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Putnam#0852
10267oh that reminds me
10268
10269[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] ToadDude#5175
10270also heya Krugg!
10271
10272[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] trib#3639
10273That's some, dare I say, AAA quality!
10274
10275[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Putnam#0852
10276are colors changing or do we still got the 16-color stuff
10277
10278[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Parse#2722
10279will there be combat animations?
10280
10281[13-Mar-19 04:29 PM] Kruggsmash#0286
10282hi!
10283
10284[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] akolacinska#6487
10285whats with the meters under them?
10286
10287[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] BlueZest#9442
10288eeey krugg
10289
10290[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] David Holmes#0369
10291Will Steam DF support ASCII graphics for those who want them?
10292
10293[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] newveeplus#3297
10294Yep, will support ASCII
10295
10296{Reactions}
10297? (3) 
10298
10299[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] Tarn#6100
10300@Putnam like 16 colors generally?  the ascii is currently set up the same way.  if i do go 24bit or wtvr now would be the time
10301
10302[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] fire bruh#2908
10303will elves and dwarves ever get along
10304
10305[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] Meph#6451
10306@Putnam we havent discussed colors yet.
10307
10308[13-Mar-19 04:30 PM] newveeplus#3297
10309read the Steam page and wishlist everyone ~ ❤ https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/
10310
10311{Embed}
10312https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/
10313Dwarf Fortress
10314Prepare for the deepest, most intricate simulation of a world that has ever been created.  Not just generated geometry -- a whole simulated world. Generated rise and fall of civilizations, personalities, creatures, cultures, etc. Infinite hours of gameplay. Now with graphics!...
10315Release Date
10316time is subjective
10317https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steam/apps/975370/header.jpg?t=1552488361
10318
10319{Reactions}
10320? (5) wouah (2) blueze5t (2) 
10321
10322[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Putnam#0852
10323yeah, the 16 consoly colors
10324
10325[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Cruxador#9109
10326TECHNICALLY, Dwarf Fortress was never ASCII to begin with
10327
10328[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Gamewizard#0580
10329Allready have it wishlisted
10330
10331[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Mala#7349
10332@Tarn all dye colors!
10333
10334[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] ToadDude#5175
10335I love all the little bits and tools in the workshops, so much detail
10336
10337[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Putnam#0852
10338CP437 blah blah it's extended ascii lol
10339
10340[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Squirrel#8566
10341Is expecting a 2019 release too hopeful?
10342
10343[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Meph#6451
10344@Tarn you have the RGB values in the raws in descriptor_color anyway, might as well use them. ?
10345
10346[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Dadgame#0386
10347Morning
10348
10349{Reactions}
10350? (3) DF_Logo_White (2) 
10351
10352[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
10353@zsielous [TOMORROW] oooh you run the tumblr!
10354
10355[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
10356morning dadgame
10357
10358[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
10359your icon is me today
10360
10361[13-Mar-19 04:31 PM] Cruxador#9109
10362Or wait didn't Baughn add true ascii?
10363
10364[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10365I'm so excited I'm evangelizing in other places.
10366
10367[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] fire bruh#2908
10368morning from the dwarven free state
10369
10370[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] BlueZest#9442
10371@newveeplus is its cause you on FIYAH today Gurl?
10372
10373[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Putnam#0852
10374`
10375Or wait didn't Baughn add true ascii?
10376`
10377only on linux?
10378
10379[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Putnam#0852
10380do you mean like console display
10381
10382[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Qvatch#0476
10383more colours. mmmm.
10384
10385[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Putnam#0852
10386i.e. actual highlightable text
10387
10388[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10389Yes yes, I’m Mod %.
10390
10391{Reactions}
10392❤ 
10393
10394[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
10395HAHA more like my brain is on fire, but thanks ;D @BlueZest
10396
10397[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] joeyyyyyyyyyyy#4608
10398@Twinklebreeze same here, couldn't help but pitch it to my buddy's discord
10399
10400[13-Mar-19 04:32 PM] Tarn#6100
10401i think the main obstacle to updating colors, aside from nostalgia for EGA or wtvr, is the 80 zillion color setting calls
10402
10403[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10404I’m going to be reporting on the news of the game as much as possible! Work permitting...
10405
10406[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] Cruxador#9109
10407I mean where the output is characters, Putnam, not just tiles that resemble characters.
10408
10409[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] Dadgame#0386
10410when i heard that there was an actual announcement for DF coming, i expected somthing big. Not THIS big
10411
10412[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] Meph#6451
10413@akolacinska build-state. When you construct them, they start BW with low progress bar. It fills up (and the sprite fills up with color) as the dwarf finishes the construction.
10414
10415[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] madcapbone#8806
10416will any of the changes effect performance?
10417
10418[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] Tarn#6100
10419but I could wrap those up somehow and do it piecemeal if necessary
10420
10421[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] clinodev#7030
10422Teeeechnically . . . ?
10423
10424[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] akolacinska#6487
10425@Meph oh thats neat
10426
10427[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] trib#3639
10428@Meph Cool idea! Will you try to implement it on other longer duration constructions like bridges or roads?
10429
10430[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] zeb#2885
10431Imagine a progrss bar for beehives
10432
10433[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] superkamiguru#4727
10434are there temp and elevation mapmodes
10435
10436[13-Mar-19 04:33 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10437@joeyyyyyyyyyyy I'm watching Yahtzee on twitch, and now I just want him to review DF.
10438
10439[13-Mar-19 04:34 PM] Mala#7349
10440@Meph saturation for build state works as a placeholder, but I feel separate sprites would be better eventually
10441
10442[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] Meph#6451
10443@trib not really... they get a "under construction" sprite, because the sizes differ. 3x3 workshop is always a 3x3 workshop, but roads or bridges can be any size and I don't know if I can get the progress bar to work correctly every time.
10444
10445[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] Destragon#8720
10446@Tarn when you will you go on a podcast interview with Joe Rogan?
10447
10448{Reactions}
10449? (3) 
10450
10451[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] David Holmes#0369
10452Does the Kitfox involvement mean that DF now has multiple programmers working on it, or is it still just Tarn?
10453
10454{Reactions}
10455❓ 
10456
10457[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] trib#3639
10458@Meph Oh yeah, that is certainly a problem. The workshops are more than enough though!
10459
10460[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] Meph#6451
10461@Mala I agree. My first suggestion was this: https://i.imgur.com/ZW3O58F.gif
10462
10463{Embed}
10464https://imgur.com/ZW3O58F
10465https://i.imgur.com/ZW3O58F.gif
10466
10467{Reactions}
10468? 
10469
10470[13-Mar-19 04:35 PM] trib#3639
10471@David Holmes It's still just Tarn and Zack
10472
10473{Reactions}
10474? (4) 
10475
10476[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] trib#3639
10477Kitfox is publishing, handling the steam side of things
10478
10479[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] Dadgame#0386
10480so who exactly is kitfox?
10481
10482[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] Cruxador#9109
10483Kitfox, technically, is also the one on graphics and music
10484
10485[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] Sethatos#1607
10486@David Holmes Just Tarn and Zach, although maybe if there's extra income Tarn could hire some interns..............
10487
10488[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] newveeplus#3297
10489check the FAQ in the pinned messages @Dadgame ! it explains who we are ?
10490
10491[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] trib#3639
10492So cool, Meph
10493
10494[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] fire bruh#2908
10495so like whenever tarn and zach think to add stuff to the game like weather patterns and crop rotation do they read like a bunch of farmers almanacs and stuff
10496
10497[13-Mar-19 04:36 PM] Yumeido#4713
10498I wonder how the steam workshop thing might change the way mods are integrated. Right now using mods is a bit awkward because if raw edits conflict then you have to manually change or just not use mods
10499
10500[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Cruxador#9109
10501@Dadgame it's like five people, Tanya is the big boss and Victoria is the one here right now. Mayhem and Meph are also working for them on this project, and a music guy that I never heard of before.
10502
10503[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] David Holmes#0369
10504@Cruxador by that do you mean graphics and music programming, or just assets?
10505
10506[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Mayday#1280
10507Hey, I'm back (a bit)
10508
10509[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10510The blog is exploding right now. I haven’t had so much traffic in a while! Ahah
10511
10512[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Mala#7349
10513Actually, I masterminded the entire thing
10514
10515[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10516@Sethatos That's my dream. A couple more people on board. More features quicker.
10517
10518[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Cruxador#9109
10519Just assets
10520
10521{Reactions}
10522? 
10523
10524[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] fire bruh#2908
10525thanks japa
10526
10527[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] trib#3639
10528@fire bruh Tarn and Zack do A LOT of research into features, part of why they're so complex and take a lot of time
10529
10530[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
10531I've only got experience with modding civ games but that's more or less how it works through the workshop for those too @Yumeido
10532
10533[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] fire bruh#2908
10534beasts
10535
10536[13-Mar-19 04:37 PM] Destragon#8720
10537@Mala how's the 3d model version of AV coming along?
10538
10539[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Scrangus McBrickdad#4935
10540alright so we all know it's got new music, but here's the real question: does it still have the classic tarn-composed themes?
10541
10542[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] anormalusername1#7489
10543I'm so excited to hear the news about this.
10544
10545[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] trib#3639
10546@zsielous [TOMORROW] What's your blog?
10547
10548[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
10549i just wanna say i'm super excited for the steam release for you guys!
10550
10551[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Remaille#8493
10552that guitar tune is etched into my brain forever ?
10553
10554[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] The past tense of Yeet is Yote#2957
10555Meph those workshops look unreal, they're so good
10556
10557[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] fire bruh#2908
10558id start a dirt collecting hobby in honor of dwarf fortress but there is no cool dirt where i live
10559
10560[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
10561that guitar tune sounds like home
10562
10563[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10564Ah, I can’t post it due to the swear, oops.
10565
10566[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
10567its such a nostalgic ambient thing
10568
10569[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Putnam#0852
10570i learned how to play guitar with the dwarfmode music
10571
10572[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] zeb#2885
10573i will pay in crayon drawings so that the guitar song stays
10574
10575[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10576I’ll pm it to ya!
10577
10578[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Mala#7349
10579@Destragon It's been... slow. I've been really busy with a new job, etc, and I haven't had a lot of time to work on it. I'm thinking of releasing the incomplete version just to have it out there.
10580
10581[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Cruxador#9109
10582@Scrangus McBrickdad I don't think its been officially decided. I'm of the opinion that the classic tune should play in the menu.
10583
10584[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] trib#3639
10585Okay!
10586
10587[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10588@fire bruh
10589Try rocks
10590
10591[13-Mar-19 04:38 PM] Dadgame#0386
10592@newveeplus @Cruxador awesome. this just feels like it came out of nowhere, knocked off guard
10593
10594[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] Meph#6451
10595@Mala Thanks!
10596
10597[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] newveeplus#3297
10598that was the goal ?
10599
10600[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] fire bruh#2908
10601@Asin (Birthday next month) its all limestone literally all of it
10602
10603[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] Dadgame#0386
10604success
10605
10606[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] IslaWoof#2222
10607https://fuckyeahdwarffortress.tumblr.com
10608Reposting for @zsielous [TOMORROW] :p
10609
10610[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] Destragon#8720
10611@Mala understandable, looking at how crazy ambitious the whole project is
10612
10613[13-Mar-19 04:39 PM] fire bruh#2908
10614floridas just a coral reef without water
10615
10616[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] zeb#2885
10617yeah this is a big surprise (but a welcome one, i hope) at first i was like "arent yall 2 weeks early?"
10618
10619[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Mayday#1280
10620Oh, BTW, somebody was asking about female dwarves a while ago
10621
10622[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Mayday#1280
10623So here's a mockup of that
10624
10625{Attachments}
10626https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555404726817259580/555490382272790560/unknown.png
10627
10628[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] David Holmes#0369
10629What?  No beard?
10630
10631[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Stardog765#6216
10632nice!
10633
10634[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10635and before you ask: yes,
10636
10637[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10638okay after you ask
10639
10640[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10641female dwarves in DF have no beard
10642
10643[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Stardog765#6216
10644hah
10645
10646[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Mayday#1280
10647Yes! they have no beards in the raws!
10648
10649[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] ToadDude#5175
10650female dorfs don't have beards in DF :P
10651
10652[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10653however
10654
10655[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Dadgame#0386
10656sad
10657
10658[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] David Holmes#0369
10659?
10660
10661[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] gonzo#6998
10662@Tarn @ThreeToe you guys are my heroes. purely legendary.
10663
10664{Reactions}
10665? (4) 
10666
10667[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10668there's a nice little line in the dwarf raws which let you add them
10669
10670{Reactions}
10671? (3) 
10672
10673[13-Mar-19 04:40 PM] Putnam#0852
10674just by adding a couple brackets
10675
10676[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10677Absolutely amazing artwork, I must say!
10678
10679[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] Vanux#6152
10680Just wanted to pop in and say DF is probably my favorite PC game of all time
10681
10682{Reactions}
10683?? (2) 
10684
10685[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] anormalusername1#7489
10686Tarn or Threetoe, if it's not too much trouble, I wanted to know what you think about the "main" Dwarf Fortress Facebook page (~15k likes). I've been running it for some years now and I was wondering if you have any suggestions.
10687
10688{Reactions}
10689FoxLove 
10690
10691[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] Destragon#8720
10692@Mayday do you have any mockup pictures of how trees will look like above ground?
10693
10694[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] Dadgame#0386
10695legit, tarn and threetoe are like, legends. its insane
10696
10697[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] trib#3639
10698I always thought dwarves reproduce by rubbing beards together
10699
10700{Reactions}
10701ohoui (3) 
10702
10703[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] BlueZest#9442
10704@anormalusername1 eyyy i post there sometime. i tried to post today but facebooks having problems
10705
10706[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] ToadDude#5175
10707trees? get outta here, elf :P
10708
10709[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] KPbIC#6651
10710сыс
10711
10712[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] Mayday#1280
10713@Destragon I'm working on it, but nothing to show yet
10714
10715[13-Mar-19 04:41 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10716As long as we're discussing body hair, how is dwarven leg hair?
10717
10718[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Tarn#6100
10719@gonzo thanks!
10720
10721[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] anormalusername1#7489
10722I love running the page @BlueZest, it's a personal pride of mine to be with people who love this game
10723
10724[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] fire bruh#2908
10725braided
10726
10727[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Mayday#1280
10728@Twinklebreeze it is... significantly smaller than a pixel ?
10729
10730[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] majsh#3449
10731Сыс
10732
10733[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10734I like to imagine my dwarves really hairy. I want to be able to shear them.
10735
10736[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] BlueZest#9442
10737Same! Its why i like to stream it so much ?
10738
10739[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] ThreeToe#2757
10740@anormalusername1  You page is actually so good that I didn't bother keeping up the official Bay 12 one
10741
10742[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Destragon#8720
10743@Mayday do you go back and forth on if tree stumps should be displayed as sprites or as walls?
10744
10745[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Vanux#6152
10746lmao
10747
10748[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] ToadDude#5175
10749"This is a Dwarf hair shirt"
10750
10751[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Tutas#3710
10752we have 2 gods in here, everyone don't panic *internal screeching*
10753
10754[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Dadgame#0386
10755*i knew i shoulda streamed DF again soon*
10756
10757[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Mayday#1280
10758@Destragon I'm leaning heavily towards sprites
10759
10760[13-Mar-19 04:42 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10761Dwarf hair cap would be my go to.
10762
10763[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] fire bruh#2908
10764dwarf wool
10765
10766[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] fire bruh#2908
10767mmm
10768
10769[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Mayday#1280
10770@Destragon but of course for multi-tile trunks it will function like a wall
10771
10772[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10773*external screeching*
10774*goblin snatcher is now in cage*
10775
10776[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10777I think you really could make a killing if you could mod in feux dwarf beards.
10778
10779[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] zeb#2885
10780a dwarf hair goblet
10781
10782[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] anormalusername1#7489
10783@ThreeToe I couldn't do it without the others who had been running it before me, but I integrated IFTTT to regularly post the updates you put on Bay12. I felt like that was a good way to breathe life into it
10784
10785[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] ToadDude#5175
10786ew
10787
10788[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] clinodev#7030
10789@anormalusername1 PM me the address of the one you run?
10790
10791[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Vanux#6152
10792Also, isn't it true that DF runs on a single core or something? I heard that's why it runs really differently depending on the CPU
10793
10794[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10795I wonder how nodding with graphics will work
10796
10797[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] trib#3639
10798@Mayday Any plans on trying to make large trees circullar?
10799
10800[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10801How hairy the dwarves are should be decided during world gen. Some varieties of dwarf are hairy enough to make wool occassionaly.
10802
10803[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10804Modding
10805
10806[13-Mar-19 04:43 PM] trib#3639
10807IIRC they come out squarish
10808
10809[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Mayday#1280
10810@trib yes, exactly
10811
10812[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10813Question: What biomes would Arizona qualify as?
10814
10815[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10816Modders will need to make graphics or something for all their mods
10817
10818[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] trib#3639
10819Nice
10820
10821[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10822That is where I live
10823
10824[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
10825i know this has already had a answer and i might have missed it but when do you guys think the release will be?
10826
10827[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] gonzo#6998
10828@Meph does your inclusion suggest we might get masterwork content in DF?
10829
10830[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] trib#3639
10831Arizona is badlands, obviously
10832
10833[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] newveeplus#3297
10834it's technically already released
10835
10836{Reactions}
10837? (2) 
10838
10839[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] newveeplus#3297
10840ayyyy
10841
10842[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Yumeido#4713
10843@Vanux most of the DF simulation happens on one core due to how the game is coded but I assume some small stuff like graphics or sound gets offloaded to other cores
10844
10845[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10846@Capt Bojangles after villains
10847
10848[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Vanux#6152
10849Ah okay
10850
10851[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] newveeplus#3297
10852haha no timeframe
10853
10854[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] fire bruh#2908
10855floridas an evil swamp
10856
10857[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Putnam#0852
10858`Also, isn't it true that DF runs on a single core or something? I heard that's why it runs really differently depending on the CPU`
10859not in the sense that it's, like, locked to one core
10860
10861[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10862Wasn't sure if rocky wasteland or badlands  @trib
10863
10864[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
10865@Bæf Stæw  thanks!
10866
10867[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] Putnam#0852
10868but it's single threaded sure
10869
10870[13-Mar-19 04:44 PM] fire bruh#2908
10871skunk ape is a strangler
10872
10873[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Meph#6451
10874@gonzo Sure! You can get that content right now! (Never in the official DF though, only as a mod) ?
10875
10876[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10877Australia counts as a Haunted or Evil biome, I’m sure.
10878
10879[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] zeb#2885
10880i thought skunk apes were tropical samsquanches
10881
10882[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Vanux#6152
10883I was always curious as to why some folks with like the latest i7 would sometimes be outpaced by something like a core 2 duo lol
10884
10885[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] fire bruh#2908
10886both
10887
10888[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10889What is the more common cause for fps death, if not being single threaded?
10890
10891[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10892What's the difference between badlands and rocky wastelands, anyway?
10893
10894[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10895Lots of creatures @Twinklebreeze
10896
10897[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10898Badlands have sand, I think.
10899
10900[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] tony#5959
10901One land is bad
10902
10903[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] tony#5959
10904The other is good
10905
10906[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] tony#5959
10907Thanks guys
10908
10909[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] trib#3639
10910Pathing, contamination, refuse
10911
10912[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10913Whether they be dwarves or animals
10914
10915[13-Mar-19 04:45 PM] Tutas#3710
10916will the new system for graphics packs be included in the free version? aka could someone make a free alternative to the steam graphic pack with all the new features
10917
10918[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10919@zsielous [TOMORROW]
10920Australia is actually just savage biomes everywhere
10921
10922[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Mayday#1280
10923@Capt Bojangles I'll leave any such information to official statements from Kitfox
10924
10925[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] fire bruh#2908
10926how many ants are in dwarf fortress
10927
10928[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10929@Bæf Stæw But why does lots of creatures cause slowdown? I'm looking for a hardware bottleneck.
10930
10931[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
10932All of them
10933
10934[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
10935unlimited @fire bruh
10936
10937[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Vanux#6152
10938Australia is just the circus
10939
10940[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] fire bruh#2908
10941good
10942
10943[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10944Oh
10945
10946[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] zeb#2885
10947puppy roasts please the fps gods
10948
10949[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
10950So how many joined only because tarn is on here?
10951
10952[13-Mar-19 04:46 PM] fire bruh#2908
10953me
10954
10955[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10956@Twinklebreeze the cpu is pretty much it. Ram could be a factor as well
10957
10958[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
10959@Mayday okay thanks ?
10960
10961[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] sam#3604
10962i joined for threetoe tbh
10963
10964[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
10965this is the closest ive been to a real beast
10966
10967[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
10968@XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX me lol
10969
10970[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
10971and threetoe
10972
10973[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Remaille#8493
10974we'll just have to obsidianize australia then. Then a fortress of glass
10975
10976[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Terminutter#1434
10977Prepare to cook dem cat biscuits bois
10978
10979[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Vanux#6152
10980I just wanted to say a thing then leave lol
10981
10982[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
10983I’d agree to that!
10984
10985[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] gonzo#6998
10986hey @XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX lol
10987
10988[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
10989@Tarn whats scamps doing rn
10990
10991[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
10992I really wish DF was open source just so that I could see the source code. I feel like DF could be an amazing open source project.
10993
10994[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
10995send scamps pics
10996
10997[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] The past tense of Yeet is Yote#2957
10998Vanux now you're stuck here forever
10999
11000[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
11001True
11002
11003[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Vanux#6152
11004oh NOOOOOO
11005
11006[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Mayday#1280
11007@Capt Bojangles I mean I could tell you when we're planning to be done with the graphics for the initial release, but that doesn't mean we'll make it in time and it doesn't mean all the coding will be ready by then
11008
11009[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] newveeplus#3297
11010welcome people who joined for Tarn heh
11011
11012{Reactions}
11013DF_Logo_White 
11014
11015[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
11016Open source do would be awesome
11017
11018[13-Mar-19 04:47 PM] fire bruh#2908
11019do it for armok
11020
11021[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] zeb#2885
11022@Twinklebreeze it'd fork so hard
11023
11024[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11025@fire bruh I showed you my blood for the blood god please respond
11026
11027[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] sam#3604
11028but we live in the age of capitalism, @TwistedBlizzard so dwarf fortress being closed source is the only way to guarantee their lives
11029
11030[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Tarn#6100
11031@fire bruh Scamps is looking like he's going to run over the keyboard...  standing on the desk next to my right arm
11032
11033{Reactions}
11034? (9) 
11035
11036[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Bæf Stæw#4473
11037True
11038
11039[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Putnam#0852
11040i have a lot of opinions about open source here
11041
11042[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Yumeido#4713
11043They already explained why DF won't go open source, and besides, they would like to ideally have income for the hard work they've done
11044
11045[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] fire bruh#2908
11046is that how the game is made
11047
11048[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11049I think there was a reason Tarn kept it Closed Source: it keeps it from forking all the way to hell.
11050
11051[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Putnam#0852
11052i can live without it being open source
11053
11054[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] rethnor#1869
11055@Tarn do you have a box on your desk for scamps?
11056
11057[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] fire bruh#2908
11058just scamps running on the keys
11059
11060[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
11061@Mayday  thats perfectly fine. just take the time you guys need ?
11062
11063[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Putnam#0852
11064the forking issue is dubious, especially with a steam release
11065
11066[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11067@zeb You're right. :( But I still think the vanilla branch would do exceedingly well. neo Dwarf Fortress would probably rival it, but none of the others.
11068
11069[13-Mar-19 04:48 PM] The past tense of Yeet is Yote#2957
11070@Vanux you're supposed to have a positive reaction to being stuck, I think
11071
11072[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Terminutter#1434
11073How long until dwarf fortress is put second in priority, and a Scamps livestream is the primary moneymaker?
11074
11075[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Vanux#6152
11076well I mean
11077
11078[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Tutas#3710
11079maybe someday tarn and threetoe can hit a big jackpot meaning they can turn it open-source
11080
11081[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11082Why would you ever want to leave? :DwarfMiner:
11083
11084[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Mala#7349
11085@Tarn You can't just say that without providing a picture
11086
11087[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Dadgame#0386
11088im all for open source normally, but sometimes you need a little madness to keep a project moving in a single direction
11089
11090[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] gonzo#6998
11091*Several people are typing...*
11092
11093[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] ToadDude#5175
11094I mean it's their pet project, I think they wanna keep it closed
11095
11096[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Tarn#6100
11097@rethnor a box on the desk would last about five seconds.  like many cats, he loves to pitch movable objects on the floor
11098
11099[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11100Will the steam version eventually get the same updates as the free version or is the steam version more set in time as it is?
11101
11102[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11103@Yumeido I know, but a fella can dream can't he? And plenty of open source projects can support a few developers.
11104
11105[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Tutas#3710
11106open source projects usually die quite fast, so i am okay with this, there are very few who actually push through
11107
11108[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Putnam#0852
11109see i also disagree with that
11110
11111[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11112@ThreeToe How are the cavies you have doing?
11113
11114[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Tarn#6100
11115@GenJeFT generally updated together
11116
11117[13-Mar-19 04:49 PM] Putnam#0852
11118cause most projects in general die quite fast
11119
11120[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11121Cool. Thank you.
11122
11123[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Terminutter#1434
11124Just tinker with liberal crime squad for open source hijinks
11125
11126[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Grumpdog#9830
11127Hanging here reminds me of when i used to lurk in the IRC like a decade ago ?
11128
11129[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Meph#6451
11130Fun fact: Yesterday night at 1:30am I petted a cat that was sitting on the stairs in my flat. I don't own a cat.
11131
11132[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Putnam#0852
11133dwarf fortress is exceptional in a lot of ways and as long as it still exists i'm fine
11134
11135[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] rethnor#1869
11136@Tarn solved the issue for my cat, Panteloup would always curl up between me and my keyboard,  I put out a box lid and she curled right up in it
11137
11138[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11139You do now, Meph. That’s how it works.
11140
11141[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Yumeido#4713
11142no
11143
11144[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Terminutter#1434
11145Better start buying cat food
11146
11147[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] Yumeido#4713
11148the cat owns you
11149
11150[13-Mar-19 04:50 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11151@Mayday, may I ask what you do for Dwarf Fortress? I've never seen you and I'm definitely interested to know
11152
11153[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] Dragonsploof#3851
11154You dont own a cat, cats own you.
11155
11156[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11157He's making graphics for the steam version,  @anormalusername1
11158
11159[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11160Yeah. I don't mind it being propietary, but if development ever stops or it is at risk of being abandoned I hope the source code makes it out eventually.
11161
11162[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] rethnor#1869
11163@anormalusername1 I assume the author of the Mayday tileset
11164
11165[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11166the guinea pigs throw their water bottles of the floor and won't eat their zucchini
11167
11168{Reactions}
11169? chwal 
11170
11171[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] BlueZest#9442
11172I actually have a question. I got a crayon drawing, and I was wondering what the paw represents ?
11173
11174[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11175OH! That's awesome!
11176
11177[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] clinodev#7030
11178Oh, man, live Scamps updates. I don;t even know what I was doing with my life before this! Cat Cam when?
11179
11180[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11181Yeah that connection is clear in highsight
11182
11183[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] Yumeido#4713
11184I would donate for a stretch goal for scamps cam
11185
11186[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
11187this entire channel could just be devoted to scamps updates and i would be satisfied ngl
11188
11189[13-Mar-19 04:51 PM] rethnor#1869
11190I'm just assuming though ?
11191
11192[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11193Will the steam version fix a bit of the slow fort death from framerate strangulation?
11194
11195[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Mayday#1280
11196@anormalusername1 glad it's clear now ?
11197
11198[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] fishfosh#3824
11199this is now the cats and guinea pigs discussion channel
11200
11201[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] KPbIC#6651
11202⚒
11203
11204[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11205I love the graphics. I'm a no-graphics pack person myself but I love what you've done. I can't wait to use it
11206
11207[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
11208I also love the raid system you guys put in btw
11209
11210[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Terminutter#1434
11211Time to confuse drakes with dragons
11212
11213[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11214@ThreeToe
11215I am sad. Also, I remember you said your wedding you had a while back was "dwarfy as possible". How so?
11216
11217[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] clinodev#7030
11218Does that make you nervous, @fishfosh ?
11219
11220[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] zeb#2885
11221yeah i'm on the fence when it comes to open source. aways liked BSD better anyway.
11222
11223[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Meph#6451
11224@anormalusername1 Mike Mayday is the author of this tileset: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137370.0
11225
11226{Embed}
11227http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=137370.0
11228Mayday's tileset compilation - in the hands of community heroes
11229Mayday's tileset compilation - in the hands of community heroes
11230
11231[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] Terminutter#1434
11232I imagine it was a !!wedding!!
11233
11234[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] majsh#3449
11235Df on switch?
11236
11237[13-Mar-19 04:52 PM] fishfosh#3824
11238@clinodev It is terrifying.
11239
11240{Reactions}
11241? 
11242
11243[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] trib#3639
11244@Tarn Speaking of cats pitching items off tables, would be funny if cats could drop dwarve's lunches to the groud off the table when they're eating with the dwarf response being based on their personality
11245
11246[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11247Df on Kinect
11248
11249[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11250Df on switch would probably suffer FPS death in 10 minutes.
11251
11252[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Articunno#5395
11253@GenJeFT its still the same game just with an official tileset and new music, so fps death is still very much going to be a thing
11254
11255[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11256oh darn.
11257
11258[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] majsh#3449
11259Df on toaster
11260
11261[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11262@Meph ` It is for the best `
11263
11264[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Tarn#6100
11265http://bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/announcement_cat.jpg
11266
11267{Embed}
11268http://bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/announcement_cat.jpg
11269http://bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/announcement_cat.jpg
11270
11271{Reactions}
11272? (18) ? (8) ❤ (8) ? (4) GrandCat (14) revLove (6) hello (8) 
11273
11274[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] ToadDude#5175
11275the worst part about DF on something without a keyboard would be the layers upon layers of radial menus :P
11276
11277[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] zeb#2885
11278Df on univac
11279
11280[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11281@Tarn Odd question, please @me. Once both versions are fully up to date, will both have the music system? Or was that only added to make it suit steam?
11282
11283[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] trib#3639
11284Yay!
11285
11286[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Terminutter#1434
11287Scamps
11288
11289[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] newveeplus#3297
11290omg cutie
11291
11292[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11293I have a 30 year old fort for a lets play on youtube and the framerate spends a lot of time in the singles range. Granted that is not what is going to kill it.
11294
11295[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Terminutter#1434
11296? ? ?
11297
11298[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] majsh#3449
11299Df on dandy
11300
11301[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11302@Asin (Birthday next month) We got married in the weird castle this crazy rich guy build for his kids in the 1970s  Very dwarfy
11303
11304[13-Mar-19 04:53 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11305Df on Amazon Echo.
11306
11307[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
11308holy moly that cat.
11309
11310[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11311Scamps is Armok's form in this world
11312
11313[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] VikingGoth#9361
11314Important question.... enitites will now have transparent (cutout) sprites?
11315
11316[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Putnam#0852
11317what *is* the music system anyway
11318
11319[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Meph#6451
11320Tarn knows how to win on the internet. Post pictures of cats.
11321
11322[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] zeb#2885
11323df on minecart dorfputer
11324
11325[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
11326what a good creature.
11327
11328[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] fire bruh#2908
11329hi scamps
11330
11331[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] trib#3639
11332announcement_cat.jpg
11333
11334[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] majsh#3449
11335Df inside df
11336
11337[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11338Best bringer of chaos
11339
11340[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] rethnor#1869
11341@ThreeToe was there  magma?
11342
11343[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Zed#9570
11344This really made my day!
11345
11346[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] DanQuail#6341
11347Just wanted to say thank you for the game Toady and ThreeToes
11348
11349[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] tony#5959
11350What's the best cpu for dwarf fortress
11351
11352[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11353Df on redstone circuits.
11354
11355[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11356Pure Gigahertz.
11357
11358[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] zeb#2885
11359heresy!
11360
11361[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] majsh#3449
11362Ok u won
11363
11364[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] VikingGoth#9361
11365'A' cpu @DanQuail
11366
11367[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] DanQuail#6341
11368Look at cache
11369
11370[13-Mar-19 04:54 PM] Terminutter#1434
11371No matter your cpu,  death is inevitable
11372
11373{Reactions}
11374biblethump 
11375
11376[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11377:unamused:  @Twinklebreeze
11378
11379[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Zed#9570
11380@tony the one that NASA uses
11381
11382[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] DanQuail#6341
11383On cpu chips
11384
11385[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Meph#6451
11386Wait, I had something for that...
11387
11388[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] rethnor#1869
11389Strawberry  jam jello for desert?
11390
11391[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Tarn#6100
11392@XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX haven't coded new music system, but most likely plan is just to use txt raws so that seasonal/death music files are set, and any announcement popup can get a 'stinger'
11393
11394[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Meph#6451
11395https://i.imgur.com/yYZF7lS.png
11396
11397{Embed}
11398https://imgur.com/yYZF7lS
11399https://i.imgur.com/yYZF7lS.png
11400
11401[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] IslaWoof#2222
11402Hopefully Victoria doesn't kill me
11403
11404[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] KPbIC#6651
11405MISH
11406
11407[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11408That's the only stat that matters for running Dwarf fortress, is the gigahertz.
11409
11410[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
11411if we post enough cat pictures does this channel suffer fps death? :cthink:
11412
11413[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Zed#9570
11414OMG Zombie cat!
11415
11416[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] majsh#3449
11417Sis
11418
11419[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] fire bruh#2908
11420the cpu issues with dwarf fortress is supposed to simulate thermodynamics i think
11421
11422[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] IslaWoof#2222
11423Pinned a message.
11424
11425[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] SalmonGod#7530
11426I love how candid that picture of Scamps is
11427
11428[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11429@Tarn And the first mod will make the stinger a jump scare.
11430
11431[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] fire bruh#2908
11432its not a bug or unintended issue
11433
11434[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Terminutter#1434
11435Scamps is a tease
11436
11437[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Yumeido#4713
11438Not just GHz, IPC
11439
11440[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] DanQuail#6341
11441Tarn, are dorfs making friends now?
11442
11443[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] fire bruh#2908
11444its just nature ans shor
11445
11446[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11447@rethnor there was a dwarfy amount of booze, but sadly, no magma.
11448
11449[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] Articunno#5395
11450@Tarn does that mean then that on the non steam version of dwarf fortress we'll be able to mod in our own music? or will we only be able to add music on the steam one?
11451
11452[13-Mar-19 04:55 PM] fire bruh#2908
11453and shtuff
11454
11455[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11456Do we have zombie dwarf sprites yet, @Mayday or @Meph?
11457
11458[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Vanux#6152
11459No magma means no fun!
11460
11461[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] rethnor#1869
11462@Tarn How many features in DF did scamps contribute to?
11463
11464[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] KPbIC#6651
11465а как вы относитесь к георгию красносельских?
11466
11467[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11468@rethnor
11469All of them
11470
11471[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11472If I can mod music I know what I'm gonna do. Linkin Park for all seasons.
11473
11474[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] anormalusername1#7489
11475at least 3/4
11476
11477[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] fire bruh#2908
11478@rethnor All
11479
11480[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11481I feel like a journalist. ☺️
11482
11483[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Yumeido#4713
11484the best CPU I find is an intel overclockable CPU like i5/i7 K version
11485
11486[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Mayday#1280
11487@Asin (Birthday next month) not yet, though Meph is really great at zombifying things
11488
11489[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] trib#3639
11490Scamps is really the main developler, Tarn and Zack are just handlers
11491
11492[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Putnam#0852
11493oh
11494
11495[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] LadybugPicnic#3521
11496Scamps is best programmer.
11497
11498[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Putnam#0852
11499so soundsense is being included too
11500
11501[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Putnam#0852
11502wow
11503
11504[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Yumeido#4713
11505but that'll still only prolong FPS death
11506
11507[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] Terminutter#1434
11508Pretty sure scamps inspired atom smashers and fell moods
11509
11510[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] rethnor#1869
11511makes sense
11512
11513[13-Mar-19 04:56 PM] fire bruh#2908
11514i feel like im in the holy land discord
11515
11516{Reactions}
11517praise 
11518
11519[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Terminutter#1434
11520Armok vult?
11521
11522[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Meph#6451
11523@Asin (Birthday next month) yeah, I'm in charge of zombifying things.
11524
11525[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11526Is there a crusade planned?
11527
11528[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11529@rethnor
11530Scamps telepathically gave Tarn the idea for DF
11531
11532[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11533I do too. I need to leave and do something productive, but I can't tear myself away. I'm not even playing DF.
11534
11535[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Not lemon#7885
11536With new modding support need a mod calles armok vult now
11537
11538[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] trib#3639
11539Next release, the crusades begin
11540
11541[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11542Lol
11543
11544[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Meph#6451
11545Because painting sprites is hard, but recoloring a beautiful Mayday sprite and adding bones and blood is easy. ?
11546
11547[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Not lemon#7885
11548Adds blood crusades
11549
11550[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Zed#9570
11551@Meph  cant wait for the zombie squirrels
11552
11553[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] Systech#3546
11554@KPbIC положительно
11555
11556[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] trib#3639
11557Zombie carp, the horror
11558
11559[13-Mar-19 04:57 PM] ToadDude#5175
11560I'm super excited for the magic update though, playing a wizard in adventure mode is gonna be a blast hah
11561
11562[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Terminutter#1434
11563It is a pity we cannot have sprites for zombie clumps of hair anymore
11564
11565[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Not lemon#7885
11566Shame this happened *after* the age of zombie yak hair
11567
11568[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Tarn#6100
11569@Articunno yeah, just a slightly cleaner way of doing the music modding you can do now my replacing the files, pretty much
11570
11571[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Not lemon#7885
11572Wiuld have loved to see a proper sprite for that
11573
11574[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
11575Carp are no longer death fish
11576
11577[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Snooze#4897
11578@Tarn Do you have a general idea of how much dev time the Steam version adds for new releases? Extra week, month, etc. ?
11579
11580[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Meph#6451
11581@Zed Squirrels are vermin, and they can't turn undead.
11582
11583[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] RainFrogs#7863
11584buying more hamsters for your CPU is probably not going to really fix FPS death - I'm guessing that there are algorithms that expand non-linearly with their decision space
11585
11586[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11587Congratulations on being able to work on something so huge, Meph ?
11588
11589[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] majsh#3449
11590Magic update will come in 2519
11591
11592[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11593Oh hell yeah. We need more adventure mode content! Also, perhaps add action sounds to the steam version at least.
11594
11595[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Twinklebreeze#5389
11596Someone should mod in dwarvin SSRIs. Stop by the hospital to pick up your antidepressant, you're too stressed.
11597
11598[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Meph#6451
11599@Zed: Now, GIANT squirrels. That's something else. ?
11600
11601[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] trib#3639
11602@Asin (Birthday next month) They're just lulling you into a false sense of security
11603
11604[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11605And it's cool to see MayDay here. Everything I've seen so far is really good
11606
11607[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] Tarn#6100
11608@rethnor Scamps contributions are generally short lived, but sometimes they go for pages and pages if he sets his haunches right
11609
11610[13-Mar-19 04:58 PM] zeb#2885
11611had anyone tried generating midi from the song descriptions?
11612
11613{Reactions}
11614wouah (2) 
11615
11616[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] Zed#9570
11617@Meph Now we're talking!
11618
11619[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] Not lemon#7885
11620Yeah my question also @Tarn tarnhow much of the steam side of things do you have to do? Or can you entirely hand it off to others
11621
11622[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11623Enter key is usually a core component of such long contributions @Tarn .
11624
11625[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] Putnam#0852
11626` I'm guessing that there are algorithms that expand non-linearly with their decision space`
11627pathfinding is O(n^2)
11628
11629[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11630That and time.
11631
11632[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] Meph#6451
11633@DragonDePlatino HI! Man, I so wanted to tell you. Remember those weird message of me, asking you about salary and if you have time or planning to work on something?
11634
11635[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
11636I first played DF on a crappy Toshiba laptop  around 2008? somewhere around that time. I downloaded it from the library no texture packs, no tutorials basically nothing took it home on a flash drive spent the whole summer in my free time learning to play it looking back now that was one of the best summer of my life.
11637
11638[13-Mar-19 04:59 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11639I had no idea this is what that was all about
11640
11641[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] Meph#6451
11642@DragonDePlatino I so wanted to have you on the team, but because of the NDA I couldn't talk about it.
11643
11644[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11645This is pretty big
11646
11647[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11648porting to Steam is super easy.  Really you just upload it.
11649
11650[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] zeb#2885
11651"if i could factor large composites in poly time i'd have enough money to not have to rhyme."
11652
11653[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11654man I would've loved to work on this but I'm already doing stuff for another indie and I can't spread myself too thin ugh
11655
11656[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] Meph#6451
11657@DragonDePlatino I was honestly surprised that they asked me. First thing I did was to tell me "dragondeplatino is they guy you want to talk to", and redirected them to your bitland/gemset.
11658
11659[13-Mar-19 05:00 PM] yabebto#9144
11660@ThreeToe  Do you know if you'll be able to host legacy game versions on steam?  If so, will the new tileset be compatable?
11661
11662[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11663But yeah I'm really excited to see proper support for layered sprites/tiles and it seems like sprites can be larger than a single tile now
11664
11665[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Not lemon#7885
11666Will saves be compatible betwern steam and classic?
11667
11668[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Tarn#6100
11669@Snooze for the first release, it'll be some months of doing the basic code work and any other cleanup/accessibility/etc. we go for.  For subsequent releases, my guess is not much at all, since the new tiles can be prepared while I'm working on other stuff mostly.  If I tried to do a short release which is also graphics-intensive, it might actually have an effect, but knowing that, I can just schedule some non-graphical changes/fixes while the artists work
11670
11671[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Putnam#0852
11672i really doubt the new tileset will be compatible with legacy
11673
11674[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Zed#9570
11675@yabebto  it says there will be an ASCII pack
11676
11677[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] Snooze#4897
11678Thanks brother
11679
11680{Reactions}
11681? 
11682
11683[13-Mar-19 05:01 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11684Have there been any interesting bugs so far?
11685
11686[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] Zed#9570
11687@yabebto not sure if that counts as legacy though haha
11688
11689[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] Qvatch#0476
11690perhaps he means past versions?
11691
11692[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] yabebto#9144
11693@Zed  I meant older versions of df, I assume you can just workshop any tilesets you want
11694
11695[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] Not lemon#7885
11696Is anyone gonna buy it on itchio instead of steam? :P i go to itchio for bad games not good ones
11697
11698[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] clinodev#7030
11699@newveeplus Did you know Scamps once decided that Linux was unfit for DF, and cancelled the Linux version for weeks until he was propitiated?
11700
11701[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] Tarn#6100
11702Bugs with graphics?  Not really.  I'm not dealing with movable polygons w/ verts so no weird distortions happen.
11703
11704[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] newveeplus#3297
11705Scamps is quality assurance we all need
11706
11707[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11708Only the latest Steam and ASCII versions will be on Steam, but you still can get the legacy versions on Bay 12's website, and they will still be updated
11709
11710[13-Mar-19 05:02 PM] zeb#2885
11711"legacy" is a kind of weird way to say "non-steam"
11712
11713[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Snooze#4897
11714@Tarn Follow up question - are you releasing Villains for the classic version before you start working on the Steam version? Or will we have to wait for both versions to be ready to have access to Villains?
11715
11716[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Putnam#0852
11717`I'm not dealing with movable polygons w/ verts`
11718okay but we're ignoring the real question, which is: when is armok 1 coming out on steam
11719
11720[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] DanQuail#6341
11721Legacy is .34
11722
11723[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Tarn#6100
11724well, there's legacy vs. SDL too.  we've been loose with words
11725
11726[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Stardog765#6216
11727Happy for you @ThreeToe and @Tarn  Happy to support the Steam version.  Good luck on launch
11728
11729[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] zeb#2885
11730thats fair ?
11731
11732[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Qvatch#0476
11733I'm liking "dwarf fortress" and "dwarf fortress HD"
11734
11735[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Remaille#8493
11736HD ?
11737
11738[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Tarn#6100
11739@Snooze villains first, yeah.  wanted to get those done on a clean classic release first so there'd be no confusion w/ the logs etc.
11740
11741[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
11742Dwarf Fortress VR.
11743
11744[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11745Hey, why not call legacy edition "Free play" edition. That more accurately describes it.
11746
11747[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Ko#2807
11748Legacy does make it sound uh, abandoned
11749
11750[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] XXX_ANOOBIS_XXX#0711
11751Yeah
11752
11753[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Snooze#4897
11754Thanks again brother
11755
11756[13-Mar-19 05:03 PM] Zed#9570
11757@yabebto I see what you mean, dont know. They might dp some kind of ingame menu to select version? Too much work i would bet.
11758
11759[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] rethnor#1869
11760@Tarn I do release management and have done Devops as well as development, do you have any kind of build setup are are most of your releases done by hand?
11761
11762[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11763I can live with DF and DFHD, reminds me of how Spelunky split into Spelunky Classic and Spelunky HD
11764
11765[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Mayday#1280
11766@DragonDePlatino hello and thanks!
11767
11768[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Ko#2807
11769I normally use legacy to mean "the version no longer updated"
11770
11771[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] ToadDude#5175
11772really I wanna know when WWI Medic is coming to steam :P
11773
11774[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Tarn#6100
11775@Stardog765 Thanks!  Hope it goes well!
11776
11777[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Mayday#1280
11778@DragonDePlatino do I know you from the forums?
11779
11780[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11781"legacy" is really the latest Dwarf Fortress Classic
11782
11783[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Remaille#8493
11784in the land of software dev, legacy is never abandonned, trust me :peur:
11785
11786[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] Dadgame#0386
11787poor software devs
11788
11789[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] trib#3639
11790@Tarn Any ideas on the timeline yet for when villains might be ready for prime time? I understand it's hard to questimate, given how much it's slipped already, but it's always worth the wait
11791
11792[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] clinodev#7030
11793@DragonDePlatino Ah, the deep quality forum posters from the deep times!
11794
11795[13-Mar-19 05:04 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11796@Mayday I don't think we've hung around on the forums around the same time but I've definitely seen your stuff and even referenced it at times
11797
11798[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] BlueZest#9442
11799speaking of bay12 games, people have been trying to encourage me to stream liberal crime squad
11800
11801[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] rethnor#1869
11802I'm curious because I assume adding steam adds another release version that would need to be tracked and tested
11803
11804[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Pasakoye#3246
11805If anyone new is playing, I can answer any questions you have about how to play. Just msg me.
11806
11807[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Dadgame#0386
11808Yes @BlueZest
11809
11810[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Tarn#6100
11811@rethnor it's still simple enough that by hand works following a little protocol.  with the upcoming big wait vs. Steam/etc. update thing when we get to magic, some changes might be called for
11812
11813[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Dadgame#0386
11814play that crime squad man, its right in there with your whole everything
11815
11816[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Meph#6451
11817@Mayday dragondeplatino makes awesome pixelart ?
11818
11819[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Zed#9570
11820@ThreeToe and @Tarn , What date will you release Dwarf Fortress for the switch? Please respond, asking for a friend.
11821
11822[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] yabebto#9144
11823idk if there's a line set already for whats a legacy version in the community, but I think thats what steam calls it, because they do have the option to change your version on games that support it
11824
11825[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] Stardog765#6216
11826haha Zed
11827
11828[13-Mar-19 05:05 PM] zeb#2885
11829liberal crime? is that like the democratic primary? ?
11830
11831[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Tarn#6100
11832There is the remote mobile phone version right?  Perhaps that is a Switch omen
11833
11834[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11835:DwarfMechanic:
11836
11837[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] sam#3604
11838theres a better chance of them releasing it for mobile phones before the switch
11839
11840[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] ThreeToe#2757
11841Toady can just switch the code between versions by adding a comment in the code.  No big deal
11842
11843[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] akolacinska#6487
11844looking at the screen shots, I see a ginger cat and a black one. can animals be different colours? @Meph  @Mayday
11845
11846[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Putnam#0852
11847`
11848liberal crime? is that like the democratic primary? :rofl:`
11849yeah basically it's fun
11850
11851[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Ron#4633
11852what an announcement today huh
11853
11854[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Zed#9570
11855YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST GUYS
11856
11857[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] rethnor#1869
11858#define DF_NINTEDO_SWITCH ?
11859
11860[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Zed#9570
11861DF FOR THE SWITCH
11862
11863[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11864What a scoop!
11865
11866[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Remaille#8493
11867?
11868
11869[13-Mar-19 05:06 PM] Tarn#6100
11870@trib yeah, villain timeline is hard -- mainly because this whole thing was hiding in there so far, ha ha ha.  still be at least a few months though.  I really trying to wind this world gen stuff down but it has been super interesting
11871
11872[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Ron#4633
11873lol df for switch wouldnt be played
11874
11875[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Meph#6451
11876@agy black cat is black because it's out of vision in adv-mode
11877
11878[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] akolacinska#6487
11879oh
11880
11881[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
11882You’d need a keyboard attachment for the switch.
11883
11884[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11885`#define AUTOPORT_FOR_ME_PLEASE`
11886
11887[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Terminutter#1434
11888Liberal crime squad for the gameboy colour when
11889
11890[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Zed#9570
11891Shut it @Ron you know nothing!
11892
11893[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Ron#4633
11894lmao
11895
11896[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Mayday#1280
11897@Agy oh yeah, I was confused for a moment there ?
11898
11899[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] trib#3639
11900@Tarn Heh, completely understandable. Take your time! I'm sure it'll be awesome as always
11901
11902[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] ToadDude#5175
11903OR just a lot of radial menus :P
11904
11905[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Yumeido#4713
11906DF for the switch, now with a stunning 10 FPS on small embarks
11907
11908[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Ron#4633
11909hahahaha
11910
11911[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] sam#3604
11912lul
11913
11914[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Ko#2807
11915haha
11916
11917[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Ron#4633
11918i was about to say
11919
11920[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Mayday#1280
11921@Agy some sprite variation is definitely planned, it's not certain how true to the raws it will be
11922
11923[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] Meph#6451
11924@akolacinska but also: Maybe. We want to do hair/skin/eye color taken from the raws to some degree. It's still up for discussion, because some color mixes simply don't agree with each other.
11925
11926[13-Mar-19 05:07 PM] rethnor#1869
11927@Meph are your launchers open or closed source ?
11928
11929[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Ron#4633
11930i think the sales of intel will go up once steam launches DF
11931
11932[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11933One thing that has me excited is the new variation on wall tiles and how it's not all just one tile like it used to be
11934
11935[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Not lemon#7885
11936is that doable with df as it currently stands or is that contigent on future  mod accessability features @Meph  ?
11937
11938[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] zeb#2885
11939so like stonesense, but in 2d and built right into the tileset
11940
11941[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] yabebto#9144
11942Is there a plan to frankenstien sprites together for forgotten beasts?
11943
11944[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Meph#6451
11945@rethnor open-source, but only in a limited fashion because I dont upload/update the source code a lot. Maybe once  a year or so ?
11946
11947[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11948Why will sales of intel go up?
11949
11950[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Ron#4633
11951@DragonDePlatino are there already pictures out, or just speculation?
11952
11953[13-Mar-19 05:08 PM] Ko#2807
11954people needing better computers, it's a joke :p
11955
11956[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] rethnor#1869
11957@Meph you sound like my coworker ?
11958
11959[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11960@Ron Screenshots so far show walls with different variations like `_|` or `|_` for corners
11961
11962[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] GenJeFT#2995
11963I run the game on an i7 running 3.4 ghz and it still has fps death.
11964
11965[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Ron#4633
11966ohh
11967
11968[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Dadgame#0386
11969im gonna be so happy if DF makes top sellers on steam
11970
11971[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Ko#2807
11972I should stop playing on my terrible laptop one day
11973
11974[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Meph#6451
11975@DragonDePlatino this is super wip, but you might enjoy this: https://i.imgur.com/QV7gw3s.png
11976
11977{Embed}
11978https://imgur.com/QV7gw3s
11979https://i.imgur.com/QV7gw3s.png
11980
11981[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Ron#4633
11982@GenJeFT yea youre right...
11983
11984[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] akolacinska#6487
11985@Meph thats good to hear, tho dogs and cats can get pretty cazy with colors in descriptions
11986
11987[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Ron#4633
11988?
11989
11990[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] Zed#9570
11991I almost thought it was a joke at first, seeing the thread saying DF will come to Steam. Oh man was i happy when i saw it wasnt. As per usual I'll throw my money in your general direction.
11992
11993[13-Mar-19 05:09 PM] ToadDude#5175
11994holy wall of walls
11995
11996[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
11997Yesss now you can have all the variation you wanted to go for with Meph set
11998
11999[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] ToadDude#5175
12000oooh I love the adamantine
12001
12002[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Meph#6451
12003@akolacinska its more like: White hair, white skin or brown hair, brown skin... if they are the same shade, you can't tell the difference.
12004
12005[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Ron#4633
12006one thing im interested in is how many players will actually buy the game
12007
12008[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] newveeplus#3297
12009hey hey just gonna say, if you want to give the brothers MAXIMUM money, by all means please do support them on Patreon or donate ❤ https://www.patreon.com/bay12games
12010
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12019
12020{Reactions}
12021? (2) 
12022
12023[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Not lemon#7885
12024how are the thrips men sprites coming along :P i want to see them
12025
12026[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Not lemon#7885
12027*activate MAXIMUM money*
12028
12029[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Meph#6451
12030@Not lemon is what doable?
12031
12032[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] gonzo#6998
12033*shift-enter*
12034
12035[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Zed#9570
12036MAXIMUM money activated
12037
12038[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Remaille#8493
12039donated a few minutes ago. :chapo:
12040
12041[13-Mar-19 05:10 PM] Not lemon#7885
12042drawing from the raws
12043
12044[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] ToadDude#5175
12045wait microcline didn't make my eyes fall out the second I looked at it, please fix this glaring issue meph :P
12046
12047[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Not lemon#7885
12048for hair colour etc
12049
12050[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Ko#2807
12051one day I should send you guys my info and get a crayon drawing, I've only been donating for like 4 years...
12052
12053[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Not lemon#7885
12054not from the raws form the dwarf profiles sorry
12055
12056[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] newveeplus#3297
12057*M A X I M U M    O V E R D R I V E*
12058
12059[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12060Mint Coinage!
12061
12062[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Meph#6451
12063@Not lemon ah, understood. Neither DF nor TWBT currently support that. It would be new .
12064
12065[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] BlueZest#9442
12066true that. They do a lot of this work FOR FREE. Donate to them to help them eat and make DF
12067
12068[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12069Will pests be able to have unique sprites or are they still limited to generic tiles like in Classic?
12070
12071[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Remaille#8493
12072it is terrifying
12073
12074[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Not lemon#7885
12075ah well just makes me more hype that this new version will add stuff like that
12076
12077[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] RainFrogs#7863
12078Patreon is basically always going to be the best way to support a creator online
12079
12080[13-Mar-19 05:11 PM] Zed#9570
12081I'll donate at the end of the month, just moved and ended up with double rent. sooon tho. M A X I M U M    O V E R D R I V E
12082
12083[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Dadgame#0386
12084how long has DF been in development for free?
12085
12086[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ron#4633
12087a LONG time
12088
12089[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Cruxador#9109
12090@Meph I feel like those rough and smooth walls look too similar. Maybe take some chunks (like a pixel or two deep only) out of the edge of the rough wall? It should still read well when combined with the shading in the thread on the forum.
12091
12092[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] GenJeFT#2995
12093I expect Patreon to be bankrupt in a few years due to cost.
12094
12095[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] newveeplus#3297
12096since like 2003?
12097
12098[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ron#4633
12099yea
12100
12101[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ko#2807
12102patreon won't take the money out of your account until the 1st anyway
12103
12104[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Dadgame#0386
12105hot damn
12106
12107[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ron#4633
12108thatd be about right i think
12109
12110[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] newveeplus#3297
1211116 years~
12112
12113[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ron#4633
12114yea, still getting updated
12115
12116[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Meph#6451
12117@DragonDePlatino vermin will get sprites.
12118
12119[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12120woo \o/
12121
12122[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Ron#4633
12123pretty cool
12124
12125[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] Meph#6451
12126@Cruxador it's SUPER wip.
12127
12128[13-Mar-19 05:12 PM] BlueZest#9442
12129If it helps. donate a dollar for every 100 hours you put into the game. I need to donate again...
12130
12131[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Dadgame#0386
12132i remember when i first heard of DF, i just spent hours in my computer class in jr high reading the DF wiki to learn how to play, and watch JefMajor
12133
12134[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12135How huge can you make sprites now? Could you have like dragons that are twice the height of tiles? I notice the logs are pretty big
12136
12137[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Technocracy#1824
12138I find that there is very little difference between smoothed, engraved and rough.
12139
12140[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Ron#4633
12141@Dadgame same, i watched Nook
12142
12143[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12144I learned from nothing back in 13. Now I know how to do almost everything (except lose...)
12145
12146[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Qvatch#0476
12147@Meph will multitile sprites expand into the 3rd dimension as well? ;)
12148
12149[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] akolacinska#6487
12150gotta say, loving the thin walls
12151
12152[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Cruxador#9109
12153also @Meph the coloration being supported in sprites is currently a feature of Stonesense. It would be new as a feature in DF itself, but wouldn't be entirely new.
12154
12155[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Dadgame#0386
12156this game has been a life inspiration man
12157
12158[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Capt Bojangles#2383
12159will we see plenty of Sock Sprites?  hahaha
12160
12161[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Zed#9570
12162@Dadgame I first started playing 2009... it has come a long way since then haha
12163
12164[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] Meph#6451
12165@DragonDePlatino tiles remain 32x32. Toady hasn't coded anything for oversized creatures yet, but we plan on having at least 64x96 sprites.
12166
12167[13-Mar-19 05:13 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12168Goodness!
12169
12170[13-Mar-19 05:14 PM] Meph#6451
12171@Qvatch ehm... no.
12172
12173[13-Mar-19 05:14 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12174Okay so the trunks so far are more of a hardcoded thing
12175
12176[13-Mar-19 05:14 PM] Cruxador#9109
12177@DragonDePlatino 2*3, said Toady
12178
12179[13-Mar-19 05:14 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12180That's a good limit
12181
12182[13-Mar-19 05:14 PM] Qvatch#0476
12183@Meph but then we could render half an elephant! Cross section view!
12184
12185{Reactions}
12186? (2) 
12187
12188[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Meph#6451
12189@Cruxador coloration is also a TWBT feature. I modded in a brick oven, so that players can make over 100 different colored blocks to build with. ? Same with the carpets I modded in.
12190
12191[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Mayday#1280
12192So I've just been convinced to switch the shading on the ramps... -_-
12193
12194[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Mayday#1280
12195this was a very educating video
12196
12197[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Mayday#1280
12198https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7C318DGB38
12199
12200{Embed}
12201minutephysics
12202https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7C318DGB38
12203The "Mountain Or Valley?" Illusion
12204Thanks to Skillshare for supporting this video: http://skl.sh/MinutePhysics for 2 free months! This video is about a multistable perceptual illusion, similar...
12205https://i.ytimg.com/vi/V7C318DGB38/maxresdefault.jpg
12206
12207[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Meph#6451
12208@Mayday you looked at the bay12 thread?
12209
12210[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Remaille#8493
12211yeah ramps immediatly felt... wrong ?
12212
12213[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Dadgame#0386
12214@Zed beautiful
12215
12216[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] GenJeFT#2995
12217I just remembered something. @Mayday @Tarn @ThreeToe @Meph 
12218
12219In my current playthrough I am doing on my youtube channel I ran into a problem with dead bodies. I made giant stockpiles to tuck away all the enemy dead from the various sieges but when migrants come and I have them pick up dead bodies outside they go into the basement and get "saw a dead body" stressor x300 times, get depressed, and throw themselves down the pit to hell I am digging.
12220
12221Are old bodies supposed to be that depressing? Some of the skeletons are like 15 years old.
12222
12223[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12224Yeah the ramps could read a little better than they do right now, it's hard to tell if they go downwards or upwards
12225
12226[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] Mayday#1280
12227@Meph  I'm preparing a very loud discussion about the wall tiles BTW ?
12228
12229[13-Mar-19 05:15 PM] 90% Human#3895
12230So is the steam versions numbering going to be the same as classic? Like start with 44.something on steam?
12231
12232[13-Mar-19 05:16 PM] Cruxador#9109
12233@Meph I mean specifically the coloration that Not lemon was talking about.
12234
12235[13-Mar-19 05:16 PM] Cruxador#9109
12236Not talking about bloat lol
12237
12238[13-Mar-19 05:16 PM] Meph#6451
12239@Mayday I know you do ?
12240
12241[13-Mar-19 05:16 PM] Tarn#6100
12242Not 100% sure, but yeah, probably just going to dive right in on the version number
12243
12244[13-Mar-19 05:16 PM] Meph#6451
12245@Mayday my expectation is that 1% of them make it into the game, the other 99% make it into my free, optional tileset. ?
12246
12247[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] Tarn#6100
12248maybe we'll even crank it up to 45 or whatever by then with all this villain stuff...  I think maybe in the notes, graphics even counts for a point or something too, ha ha ha
12249
12250[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12251I can’t wait to make Oceandwarves again, ahah
12252
12253[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] trib#3639
12254Graphics counting towards the version number? BLASPHEMY!
12255
12256[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] trib#3639
12257MORE FEATURES!
12258
12259[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12260@zsielous [TOMORROW]
12261Ocean Dwarves?
12262
12263[13-Mar-19 05:17 PM] Meph#6451
12264@Cruxador ah, got it. ? You meant the creature parts.
12265
12266[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] ToadDude#5175
12267how much would you estimate myth+magic will add to the version number? it sounds pretty damn huge :P
12268
12269[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] BlueZest#9442
12270btw the unique crayon drawings you get for donating are an investment. chances are they will be worth something one day. DF is ALREADY legendary enough to be in a video game hall of fame. http://www.bay12games.com/support.html
12271
12272[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
122731
12274
12275[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
122761 whole version number
12277
12278[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12279There is a small chance that, should you settle in the ocean, there will be non-aquifer islands that you can exist in.
12280
12281[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
12282calling it now
12283
12284[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
12285lol jk
12286
12287[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Remaille#8493
12288mhhhh, do goblins get depressed ?
12289
12290[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] ToadDude#5175
12291hah given the scale of this game, I wouldn't even be surprised
12292
12293[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
12294probably more
12295
12296[13-Mar-19 05:18 PM] Articunno#5395
12297maybe 2
12298
12299[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Not lemon#7885
12300WELL @Articunno one time i took an elf prisoner
12301
12302[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12303It can also happen that aquifer islands won’t actually generate water when digging.
12304
12305[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Not lemon#7885
12306chained him up on his own
12307
12308[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12309Dwarf Fortress 46.01
12310
12311[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Not lemon#7885
12312and he became harrowed so when i sent the dwarves in to train vs him
12313
12314[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Not lemon#7885
12315he was too upset to fight back
12316
12317[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Articunno#5395
12318elves deserve to die in the most horrific ways possible
12319
12320[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Articunno#5395
12321thats a fact
12322
12323[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] Qvatch#0476
12324(barring cacame)
12325
12326[13-Mar-19 05:19 PM] zalasur ?#3018
12327Dwarf Fortress Over9000.01
12328
12329[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] yabebto#9144
12330Do you guys expect most of the common plugins to be available day one on the workshop?
12331
12332[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] frenchiveruti#3176
12333Yay!
12334
12335[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
12336i doubt it
12337
12338[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] BlueZest#9442
12339Elves are great for donating all the animals you dont want to butcher.
12340
12341[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
12342programming is hard
12343
12344[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] BlueZest#9442
12345also for wood when you run out.
12346
12347[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] DragonDePlatino#9925
12348programming is easy just keep hitting the big "make game" button on your keyboard
12349
12350[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] Technocracy#1824
12351@Tarn Hey Toady, I'm a Moroccan fan, we're about 7 players of DF in my country. I just wanted to say thank you for amazing game.
12352
12353[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] Dadgame#0386
12354just lock them in a trade room
12355
12356[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] Putnam#0852
12357heack yeah
12358
12359[13-Mar-19 05:20 PM] RainFrogs#7863
12360programming is easy - making good software is hard
12361
12362[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] Tarn#6100
12363Thanks @Technocracy !
12364
12365[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
12366i feel like everything i program is a mess lol
12367
12368[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] Pasakoye#3246
12369I like starting with 7 hunters, then doing livestock raids against the elves. In savage areas the elves have free tame giant animals.
12370
12371[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12372? ?  alright pardner hand over the new soundtrack real easy-like
12373
12374[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] ToadDude#5175
12375yeah as an amateur/midlevel programmer, the amount of work put into DF is actually mindboggling haha
12376
12377[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] ArmokGoB#7174
12378it works about 10% of 60% of the time
12379
12380[13-Mar-19 05:21 PM] carterz30cal#3567
12381Hey Tarn, any plans to add them stalkers and other night creatures ever?
12382
12383[13-Mar-19 05:22 PM] carterz30cal#3567
12384Btw love DF
12385
12386[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] frenchiveruti#3176
12387I always wanted to support DF because of my country limitations regarding US payments, now Steam is the option!
12388
12389[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] frenchiveruti#3176
12390Thanks Tarn for the game.
12391
12392[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] yabebto#9144
12393@Tarn Are you guys expecting most of the common plugins being available day one on steam workshop?  A lot of plugins are extremely helpful for new players, and everyone needs dwarf therapist.
12394
12395[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] Pasakoye#3246
12396Whatever happened to giant desert scorpions?
12397
12398[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] frenchiveruti#3176
12399And the rest of the team too, they did a great work if the game is getting into steam
12400
12401[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] ToadDude#5175
12402honestly Therapist really isn't needed. The base ingame one isn't THAT bad, and DFHack's does more than you need
12403
12404[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12405Dwarf Fortress is going to blow up once it's released on Steam
12406
12407[13-Mar-19 05:23 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12408i'm excited
12409
12410[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Destragon#8720
12411@Pasakoye RIP giant desert scorpions
12412
12413[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12414not saying it hasn't already blown up
12415
12416[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Cruxador#9109
12417Yeah, the improvements to job settings did help.
12418
12419[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12420I will ask: is there a possibility Bookbinders will become useful soon?
12421
12422[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] zeb#2885
12423@ToadDude honestly graphics arent needed either. Sometimes people just want nice stuff
12424
12425[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] yabebto#9144
12426I think a lot of people will try the game out once its on steam, and the base game with no plugins is pretty archaic, even with a god tier tileset
12427
12428[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12429This announcement and the master chief collection are the best things that I have heard since the start of this year
12430
12431[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Remaille#8493
12432weaponized bookbinders :peur:
12433
12434[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] Tarn#6100
12435@yabebto I expect we'll have fiddled with Workshop quite a bit before release, but it's too early to say what'll be living there.  We definitely be thinking of the first-time player coming at the game for this launch, since it'll be a unique time to do something positive there
12436
12437[13-Mar-19 05:24 PM] ToadDude#5175
12438oh they aren't and I agree, but it's still not NEEDED :P
12439
12440[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12441@newveeplus would a channel for DF modders be too weird to have?
12442
12443[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] catman1900#0420
12444I'm excited but will there be a linux version?
12445
12446[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] yabebto#9144
12447@Tarn Do you know if we'll be able to apply plugins off the forums ourselves to the steam version?
12448
12449[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] zeb#2885
12450As long as steam workshop isn't mandatory for running other 3rd party stuff
12451
12452[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] SalmonGod#7530
12453Dwarf Therapist isn't needed, but it is the easiest method to learn for managing your dwarves and getting an overview of what's going on
12454
12455[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] zeb#2885
12456otherise i'm gonna sell gaben to the elves
12457
12458[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] newveeplus#3297
12459we could have that? if people think it'll be useful
12460
12461[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12462dfhack as dwarf manipulator, which is all in game
12463
12464[13-Mar-19 05:25 PM] Ruza#6815
12465HYPU
12466
12467[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] GenJeFT#2995
12468I hope dwarf therapist will be on there.
12469
12470[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] SalmonGod#7530
12471others may be just fine or the DFHack manager even more powerful, but they're less accessible
12472
12473[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Putnam#0852
12474`
12475As long as steam workshop isn't mandatory for running other 3rd party stuff`
12476
12477[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Putnam#0852
12478this has literally never happened
12479
12480[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] newveeplus#3297
12481will integrate these things post-announcement day, see what we need
12482
12483[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Putnam#0852
12484you are straight up formulating complaints from the aether
12485
12486[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12487Me, or?
12488
12489[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12490I think having to tab out to some totally different program is less accessible than just  having it within the game's UI
12491
12492[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12493Explain, putnam
12494
12495[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Putnam#0852
12496literally never happened in cases where there's non-steam releases, i mean
12497
12498[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12499he's saying that mods on the workshop will not only work with just the workshop
12500
12501[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Destragon#8720
12502@Tarn has the ability for graphics to be transparent already been implemented or does that still need work? are the current screenshots just mockups?
12503
12504[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Putnam#0852
12505no the post i repluied to
12506
12507[13-Mar-19 05:26 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12508Oh
12509
12510[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] zeb#2885
12511Putnam: so, when somebody gets VAC banned for running dfhack plugins.... ?
12512
12513[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Putnam#0852
12514that won't happen
12515
12516[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12517it's a singleplayer game
12518
12519[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Putnam#0852
12520in fact thef act that you think that might happen tells me you know literally nothing about VAC
12521
12522[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Destragon#8720
12523hahaha DF aimbot
12524
12525[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12526@zeb that's literally the most nonsense thing I've ever heard
12527
12528[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Putnam#0852
12529you do know that it explicitly only runs on game *servers* that it's enabled for, right?
12530
12531[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Not lemon#7885
12532lol zeb i can see someone on csgo
12533
12534[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12535VAC is for multiplayer games
12536
12537[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12538that there's bait
12539
12540[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Not lemon#7885
125411 vac ban on record
12542
12543[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] carterz30cal#3567
12544@Tarn any plans to add stalkers?
12545
12546[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Not lemon#7885
12547"nah it was from dwarf fortress"
12548
12549[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] SalmonGod#7530
12550I mean accessible in terms of anyone being able to look at and understand easily
12551
12552[13-Mar-19 05:27 PM] Putnam#0852
12553and it only bans you from the game you cheated in
12554
12555[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12556by making you unable to play on VAC servers
12557
12558[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12559so yeah that's not happening
12560
12561[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] zeb#2885
12562Well thats a relief
12563
12564[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12565also
12566
12567[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12568kerbal space program, right?
12569
12570[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] yabebto#9144
12571you get flagged on all servers, some games take any vac ban as a ban on theirs too as far as i know
12572
12573[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] yabebto#9144
12574but its up to them
12575
12576[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] zeb#2885
12577what about ksp?
12578
12579[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Suiseiseki#6607
12580@Tarn Good day. Glad to see your game coming out in steam. Is there any future support for different mods languages that users can create at steam workshop or something like that? Russian, Polish, Ukrainian, German, Japanese and other languages.
12581
12582[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
12583Dwarf Fortress multiplayer. Imagine.
12584
12585[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12586you can buy the game on steam, copy it to another folder, install mods, play it without steam
12587
12588[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12589pulling complete nonsense complaints out of nowhere that make no sense just spams up the discord
12590
12591[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Putnam#0852
12592dwarf fortress is PROBABLY gonna be the same, since it's a similar indie-game-with-later-steam-release situation
12593
12594[13-Mar-19 05:28 PM] Parsifal#0594
12595It says something about Dwarf Fortress that I am in here following updates and being interested in new stuff for a game that I haven't played in ten years ?
12596
12597[13-Mar-19 05:29 PM] Tarn#6100
12598@Destragon the graphics in the short trailer are all in-engine -- this includes transparency for creatures and buildings (including the neat alpha feet shadows that blend), the wall edging, neat little edge overlaps for floor types.  The still images are not in-engine yet, but a lot of their properties are.
12599
12600[13-Mar-19 05:29 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12601Question to the modders around here
12602I wanna make British dwarves
12603What would I do for the civ values
12604the weaponry
12605And the ethics, if change was needed there
12606
12607[13-Mar-19 05:29 PM] Destragon#8720
12608great
12609
12610[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12611@Asin (Birthday next month)  you should probably ask that where modders actually converge on that stuff
12612
12613[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] zeb#2885
12614@Asin (Birthday next month) youll have to ban all weapons
12615
12616[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] carterz30cal#3567
12617You would need tea @Asin (Birthday next month)
12618
12619{Reactions}
12620? 
12621
12622[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Meph#6451
12623@Suiseiseki I've looked into translating DF (long time ago, going through the string-dump, etc) and there are issues with how DF assembles some sentences. Even if you would translate everything correctly, the sentences would be grammatically wrong, because the word position doesn't change. It would require quite a bit of coding by Tarn.
12624
12625[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] SalmonGod#7530
12626@Parsifal I haven't played much in several years, but I still avidly follow the development of not just the game but also mods and whatever the community is doing because it's just that fascinating, even from a distance
12627
12628[13-Mar-19 05:30 PM] Tarn#6100
12629@Putnam yeah, only bit I have no idea about is like with achievements or whatever, if it still runs outside.  But it's just the same folder, same files, sitting there, and you just tell Steam where the exe is
12630
12631[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12632achievements i think you need to include some stuff in the executable for, so that might be weirder
12633
12634[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12635not sure about that though
12636
12637[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] ToadDude#5175
12638DF achievements would be fun, hope you guys can get them working :)
12639
12640[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12641could hide it all in a dll or whatever
12642
12643[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Meph#6451
12644@Asin (Birthday next month) Sorry, I don't know enough about modding to help with that.
12645
12646[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Systech#3546
12647I don’t know if someone asked this before, but once steam version of dwarf fortress will be support steam workshop, will part of the source code be open? @Tarn
12648
12649[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] yabebto#9144
12650@Tarn Do you plan on overhauling the in game tutorial resources for new players?
12651
12652[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12653the raws probs
12654
12655[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
12656I see
12657
12658[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12659since the raws are already open source
12660
12661[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12662dwarf fortress is written in c++ right?
12663
12664[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12665not java?
12666
12667[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12668yes
12669
12670[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] zeb#2885
12671hide achievements i a zip file☺️ the ultimate security
12672
12673[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12674definitely not java.
12675
12676[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12677i'm new to object oriented programming
12678
12679[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Ratinod#2903
12680Over the main game will now work more than two people? Or do the developers at Kitfox Games only work with graphics?
12681
12682[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12683zeb achievements can be unlocked for any game on steam using a third party program
12684
12685[13-Mar-19 05:31 PM] Putnam#0852
12686any and every
12687
12688[13-Mar-19 05:32 PM] Putnam#0852
12689security shouldn't be a concern lol
12690
12691[13-Mar-19 05:32 PM] zeb#2885
12692you're right im not worried about steam's fluff
12693
12694[13-Mar-19 05:32 PM] Tarn#6100
12695@Systech same category of source as before will be under the same license as usual, the renderer etc.  No idea how that relates to Steam Workshop
12696
12697[13-Mar-19 05:32 PM] Articunno#5395
12698@Ratinod zach and tarn, (well tarn is the only one of them actually coding but still) are still the only people who can touch and edit the code. the only third party stuff is the tileset and the music
12699
12700[13-Mar-19 05:32 PM] catman1900#0420
12701multiplayer is for the birds
12702
12703[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Ratinod#2903
12704@Articunno thanks
12705
12706[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12707i hate it when people say multiplayer doesn't fit
12708
12709[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12710@Articunno the game already has a pretty lively modding community
12711
12712[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12713in a game like dwarf fortress
12714
12715[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12716with gameplay mods
12717
12718[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12719i mean
12720
12721[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12722also hi i'm one such modder
12723
12724[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] catman1900#0420
12725it's not the vision my guy
12726
12727[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12728look at rimworld with its multiplayer mod
12729
12730[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12731DF has multiplayer mods
12732
12733[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12734works well and preserves the spirit of the game
12735
12736[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Articunno#5395
12737@Putnam yeah but i mean like the actual code of the game itself not modding it
12738
12739[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12740didn't know that
12741
12742[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12743why though
12744
12745[13-Mar-19 05:33 PM] Putnam#0852
12746i don't need it
12747
12748[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Putnam#0852
12749and i do some weird crap
12750
12751[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Tarn#6100
12752@yabebto A tutorial could be part of what we do for new players; we'll be able to be more specific later.  But it's on the table, yeah.
12753
12754[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] BlueZest#9442
12755I will do tutorials for anyone who needs them till one is in ?
12756
12757[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Putnam#0852
12758what i'm saying is there's no reason to pressure anyone about open source
12759
12760[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Destragon#8720
12761@Tarn when did you work on all these new graphical features? did you do those secretly on the side while working on villain stuff?
12762
12763[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Potetstappen#8300
12764@Tarn just poppin in to say hello to the maker of my favorite game, love what you do
12765
12766[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] ToadDude#5175
12767would it be possible to point to pre-existing tutorials (Captain Duck, Kruggsmash, etc) in the meantime? Or just to the wiki, I guess
12768
12769[13-Mar-19 05:34 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12770what
12771
12772[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12773Hi Tarn, congratulations on the Announcement! Will you be at GDC this year?
12774
12775[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Dadgame#0386
12776@BlueZest for tutorial man
12777
12778[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12779what is the villain update?
12780
12781[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] zeb#2885
12782i will post links to the wiki and try to refrain from shouting RTFM as much as possible
12783
12784[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Arcade Dan#9752
12785I just found out about this
12786
12787[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Tarn#6100
12788@Potetstappen thanks!  glad you're enjoying it!
12789
12790[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Tarn#6100
12791CHAD
12792
12793[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Destragon#8720
12794@Chad Jenkins hello there ?
12795
12796[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12797Haha, hello ?
12798
12799[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Dadgame#0386
12800how could a tutorial for DF even work?
12801
12802[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Tarn#6100
12803Yeah, I'll be there.
12804
12805[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] yabebto#9144
12806@Tarn Thanks, I've been trying to get my roommates into df because they like the stories i get out of it, but the steepest part of df learning curve is right at the beginning, especially if someone isn't there to help
12807
12808[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Tarn#6100
12809Meet Chad, first person to try to get me on Steam for like 7 hours.  Looks like it worked!
12810
12811[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] rethnor#1869
12812has anyone ever done a speed run of DF?
12813
12814[13-Mar-19 05:35 PM] Dadgame#0386
12815there is so much stuff, so many things that i feel a tutorial would be... difficult to break down into a understandable chunk
12816
12817[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12818Haha, Guilty as charged
12819
12820[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] fishfosh#3824
12821What would a speed run even be, losing as fast as possible?
12822
12823[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12824`
12825has anyone ever done a speed run of DF?`
12826
12827[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Mayday#1280
12828@Chad Jenkins thank you for the amazing feat ;))
12829
12830[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12831well see there's multiple ways to do it
12832
12833[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12834virgin elf vs chad dwarf
12835
12836[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Destragon#8720
12837insert shoutout to Phantom Brigade here
12838
12839[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] ToadDude#5175
12840I've seen people on the subreddit trying to discuss methods to speedrun haha
12841
12842[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12843i think the sanest way is fastest-to-Fun
12844
12845[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] ToadDude#5175
12846unlocking the circus is my favourite lol
12847
12848[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] rethnor#1869
12849@Putnam yeah, it would be a bit arbitraty
12850
12851[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] superkooky#8705
12852I’m arriving late.  Will a moderator here consider creating a document to cover the most useful questions/answers gleaned here?  I want to learn more, but fear I’ll be asking questions already asked.
12853
12854[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Carbolemons#0001
12855https://twitter.com/joel_vinesauce/status/1105895110259154944
12856
12857[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Ghostly#8180
12858technically the game has a win condition now, doesn't it?
12859
12860[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12861Fun meaning circus in my case, fastest to death-of-fort is too RNG
12862
12863[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Ghostly#8180
12864you can take over the entire world
12865
12866[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] ToadDude#5175
12867@superkooky FAQ in the pins already
12868
12869[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12870my fastest there is less than 200 ticks
12871
12872[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Pasakoye#3246
12873Tip: Hand pick a new expedition leader when you get a migrant wave. Pick one that is good at working with people and when they attend a meeting to complain will actually calm down instead of doing 0 stress relief.
12874
12875[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Ghostly#8180
12876by conquering all sites
12877
12878[13-Mar-19 05:36 PM] Putnam#0852
12879everyone drowned because they embarked on a frozen major river lol
12880
12881[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Alphastring#7401
12882@Tarn random Q: have you ever talked publicly about exactly _how_ accurate your physics simulations are in fights? I noticed that in adventure mode there is clearly 'stuff' happening to control how 'clean' or accurate a hit something could be to a specific body part. do you simulate it with actual 3d physics + bodies?
12883
12884[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12885Seems like there's been a huge wave of news, articles, and the Kitfox Discord has exploded. So that seems like a very positive response.
12886
12887[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] mr_seeker#3552
12888@Putnam what you consider a "speed run"
12889
12890[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Putnam#0852
12891@Alphastring i actually know this one
12892
12893[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Putnam#0852
12894they are not *that* accurate
12895
12896[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] rethnor#1869
12897@Ghostly I was thinking, time to conquer hell
12898
12899[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Putnam#0852
12900they're kinda funny and sort of sidestep physics as we know it
12901
12902[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] newveeplus#3297
12903yesss such a nice response
12904
12905[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Tarn#6100
12906Yeah, as far as I can tell the response has been....   super awesome
12907
12908[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12909I hope this gives you the security you and your family deserves ?
12910
12911[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Putnam#0852
12912they have verisimillitude but they don't have, like, proper conservation of energy and stuff
12913
12914[13-Mar-19 05:37 PM] Enigma#7859
12915man i'm very happy with that, i was tought the "new" dwarf fortress was be different but no, it will still de same, i'm very happy
12916
12917[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] mr_seeker#3552
12918It is: steam is a platform of choice ;)
12919
12920[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Lonjil#0666
12921Everything you do is super awesome, Tarn, so the responses better always be :)
12922
12923[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] zeb#2885
12924i like how very fast dorfs can teleport thru 1x walls. it's not a bug. it's quantum tunneling!
12925
12926[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Parsifal#0594
12927@Tarn That's because the game is super awesome!
12928
12929[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Alphastring#7401
12930@Putnam Ya I figured it wouldn't be a 'full 3d' simluation, I'm curious what kind of shortcuts are used
12931
12932[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Dadgame#0386
12933as i have said over and over again, DF and @Tarn are literal legends
12934
12935[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Thrassoss#6659
12936Just curious but will the steam version include Adventure Mode and Legends Mode?
12937
12938[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Alphastring#7401
12939thanks for answering
12940
12941[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Putnam#0852
12942there's a thread about this actually
12943
12944[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Putnam#0852
12945on the forums
12946
12947[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Inarius#9595
12948@Tarn  I haven't seen anything about translation, will the game be translated "some day" (i think no but maybe i have missed it ?)
12949
12950[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] catman1900#0420
12951I'm really excited for it to be on itch.io! not enough devs release there and it's the best platform
12952
12953[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Meph#6451
12954@Thrassoss Sure
12955
12956[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] tresBombChu#9812
12957Just stopping by to say thanks for everything, been playing for free for a while, I will support with the steam release ?
12958
12959[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Tarn#6100
12960@Alphastring the fight physics are...  interesting and overcomplicated in spots, and there's certain geometry, but not in a wholesome way.  it is odd, and people await the combat rewrite
12961
12962[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] rethnor#1869
12963It's funny, first Came MOMA, then came steam release
12964
12965[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Thrassoss#6659
12966cool thanks
12967
12968[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12969it's the same game with some extra tileset and music features, that's it
12970
12971[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12972and workshop support
12973
12974[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] rethnor#1869
12975yet I think Steam has made more news
12976
12977[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
12978but you're not losing content
12979
12980[13-Mar-19 05:38 PM] Enigma#7859
12981basicaly the "new" dwarf fortress is just a pack of tilesets and  musics right? the difficult and the losing will still de same right?
12982
12983[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
12984Haha, you seem busy with things here though. I'll see about catching up with you at GDC if you have time. Congratulations, and good luck to you!
12985
12986[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Putnam#0852
12987http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=131995.msg4682691#msg4682691
12988
12989[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Putnam#0852
12990this is the one
12991
12992[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] ToadDude#5175
12993it's the same game, for all intents and purposes
12994
12995[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Putnam#0852
12996that's basically how combat works
12997
12998[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] ToadDude#5175
12999just with some extras
13000
13001[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Tarn#6100
13002I hope so too Chad!  Lots of hope.  It'll be cool.
13003
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13006
13007[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Alphastring#7401
13008@Putnam thanks man
13009
13010[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13011Does punching with metal gauntlets do more damage? Doesn't seem like it does.
13012
13013[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] mr_seeker#3552
13014Steam release is basically lazynewb pack
13015
13016[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Enigma#7859
13017oh
13018
13019[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Enigma#7859
13020so its great
13021
13022[13-Mar-19 05:39 PM] Enigma#7859
13023i will buy
13024
13025[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] newveeplus#3297
13026shout out to @clinodev and @Meph for being really good help in prepping me for the announcement heheh
13027
13028[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Enigma#7859
13029i hope the game dont be so expensive in brazil
13030
13031[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Enigma#7859
13032because 20 dolar is 76 real in brazil
13033
13034[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Alphastring#7401
13035it's always free if you can't afford it ?
13036
13037[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] yowasap#4465
13038its free my mans
13039
13040[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Meph#6451
13041@newveeplus my pleasure
13042
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13046[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] clinodev#7030
13047Oh, cheers, @newveeplus , glad to help!
13048
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13051
13052[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Dadgame#0386
13053woop
13054
13055[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] rethnor#1869
13056sooo there are DF speed runs out there: https://www.speedrun.com/Dwarf_Fortress
13057
13058[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Tarn#6100
13059@Alphastring you'll note for example that there's just not enough geometric information in the txt files to do a 3d sim...  so we have masses and various fake dimensions and stuff, quite otherworldly
13060
13061[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] zeb#2885
13062@Enigma you can always use the regular game and donate money directly
13063
13064[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] mr_seeker#3552
13065@Enigma how much you pay on average for an AAA game with 50% off?
13066
13067[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Meph#6451
13068@newveeplus it would have been great to know that @clinodev was in the know. I could have talked to him ^^
13069
13070[13-Mar-19 05:40 PM] Putnam#0852
13071or go through itch.io
13072
13073[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Putnam#0852
13074if you really don't wanna support steam
13075
13076[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Enigma#7859
13077i pay 50 reals and 30 reals sometimes @mr_seeker
13078
13079[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Putnam#0852
13080goblin siege% is terrible, 100% rng
13081
13082[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Putnam#0852
13083even worse than rng now lol
13084
13085[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] newveeplus#3297
13086I didn't tell him until much later @Meph ;D
13087
13088[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] Tarn#6100
13089Thanks Chad!  Catch you later!
13090
13091[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] newveeplus#3297
13092like... 2 days before
13093
13094[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] clinodev#7030
13095@Meph I was rather late to the full in the know.
13096
13097[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] StJesuz#6895
13098Seems like great news.  Can't wait to strike the earth in the new version!
13099
13100[13-Mar-19 05:41 PM] mr_seeker#3552
13101@Enigma sounds like the price you will pay in the end...
13102
13103[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] mr_seeker#3552
13104For me its always "20 euro"
13105
13106[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] Meph#6451
13107@clinodev so your message on Reddit about "do you know what I know" was from before? ^^
13108
13109[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] superkooky#8705
13110Can I thank KitFox for choosing Mayday and Meph for the graphics.  The Mayday set was the one I used when I first fell in love with the game.  It will always be in my heart.  Thanks Mike!
13111
13112[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
13113I’m at work... I do have DF installed on the work computer, haha. I wonder if the queues will be slow enough to get in more stuff.
13114
13115[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] Parsifal#0594
13116@Tarn I would buy a mug that just says "Strike The Earth!"
13117
13118[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] mr_seeker#3552
13119I don't have time to play :(
13120
13121[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13122Seconded.
13123
13124[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] rethnor#1869
13125@zsielous [TOMORROW] I use Dropbox to make sure I can play at work and from home without skipping a beat
13126
13127[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13128I'd buy that mug in an instant
13129
13130[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] Dadgame#0386
13131DF swag
13132
13133[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13134And also multiples for my friends
13135
13136[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] Enigma#7859
13137in brazil the comunnity of dwarf fortress is very small because of the english language, there will be languages in the game?
13138
13139[13-Mar-19 05:42 PM] rethnor#1869
13140@Tarn  would you consider steam cloud saves ?
13141
13142[13-Mar-19 05:43 PM] Putnam#0852
13143[steam cloud]
13144
13145[13-Mar-19 05:43 PM] clinodev#7030
13146I knew stuff I sort of had to know to arrange the reddit AMA then, and the fullness of stuff yesterday, @Meph  You were totally right, I didn;t know what you knew. Did you know about the reddit AMA though? *arches eyebrow*
13147
13148[13-Mar-19 05:43 PM] clinodev#7030
13149lol
13150
13151[13-Mar-19 05:43 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13152https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491115546298023936/549438320669622274/SPOILER_unknown.png These dwarves died before I could take picture of the flames.
13153
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13157[13-Mar-19 05:43 PM] Chad Jenkins#8461
13158Also, thanks for the awesome tileset art for DF, really glad you're doing the official art for the steam version ?  Exciting times
13159
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13162
13163[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Tarn#6100
13164@Inarius localization: hard to do a good job with all the procedural text this far in, so I haven't been super optimistic about this.  it'd require some sort of massive programmer-helper rewrite or something
13165
13166[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] rethnor#1869
13167@Putnam thanks
13168
13169[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13170HELL YEA
13171
13172[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Putnam#0852
13173localization with procedural text is a Hard Problem
13174
13175[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13176Guys, I have seriously dreamed of DF being on steam
13177
13178[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Tarn#6100
13179Yeah, the art is awesome!
13180
13181[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Putnam#0852
13182not even like "kind of hard", this is the kind of thing that keeps professionals awake at night
13183
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13186
13187[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] Putnam#0852
13188it is terrifying
13189
13190{Reactions}
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13192
13193[13-Mar-19 05:44 PM] zeb#2885
13194localized text could be hilarious and fun
13195
13196[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Alphastring#7401
13197you could do it naively and it would be hilarious
13198
13199[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] yowasap#4465
13200@Tarn have you considered adding randomly generated magical artifacts to the game? Or more magic in the same vein as the already implemented necromancy. How far up is this on your priority list for updates?
13201
13202[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Alphastring#7401
13203i'm just imagining all the crazy names of things that get half-translated into other languages
13204
13205[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] zeb#2885
13206remember when Madonna wanted to thank all of her Russian ventilators?
13207
13208[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Putnam#0852
13209myth and magic is Upcoming
13210
13211[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Putnam#0852
13212officially upcoming
13213
13214[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Enigma#7859
13215@Tarn  There will be translate in the games for foreign languages or will still in old famous english?
13216
13217[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] zeb#2885
13218(she meant to say "fans")
13219
13220[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Putnam#0852
13221it's On The Queue
13222
13223[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13224:D:D:D
13225
13226[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] sam#3604
13227magic is after villains
13228
13229[13-Mar-19 05:45 PM] Alphastring#7401
13230@Enigma don't expect translations
13231
13232[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Enigma#7859
13233ok
13234
13235[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Tarn#6100
13236@rethnor Ah, I have no idea about cloud saving with Steam.  Will have to see about the various Steam Features!
13237
13238[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13239Trading cards plz :D:D:D:D
13240
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13243
13244[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] ToadDude#5175
13245cloud saving might get a little screwy with the way raw editing works
13246
13247[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Dazza#9004
13248Will this version of the game be identical to the Bay12 one, or is it a separate branch?
13249
13250[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Putnam#0852
13251nah ToadDude the way raw editing works it just saves the whole dang raw folder with the save
13252
13253[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Enigma#7859
13254i know english very well, but will be cool show DF to my friend who doenst know english language
13255
13256[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Putnam#0852
13257which makes it easier
13258
13259[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Systech#3546
13260trading cards with ascii symbols
13261
13262[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Qvatch#0476
13263@Putnam, he was talking about that not always being the case in future though
13264
13265[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] LobsterOnTheLoose#3250
13266@Dazza  same but with added graphics and music and mod support
13267
13268[13-Mar-19 05:46 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13269@Systech  Hell yes
13270
13271[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] ToadDude#5175
13272but it might conflict on another machine since the workshop doesn't seem to sync properly
13273
13274[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Dazza#9004
13275@LobsterOnTheLoose Thanks
13276
13277[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Tarn#6100
13278@yowasap yeah, the magic release is really going to open a lot of this up.  and if we don't have some kind of magical items in the first magic release, that would be very, very odd indeed
13279
13280[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Putnam#0852
13281@Qvatch i only recall that being mentioned in the context of graphics
13282
13283[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Putnam#0852
13284which are gonna be bigger
13285
13286[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Putnam#0852
13287so more clunky to copy around
13288
13289[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Qvatch#0476
13290ah, perhaps so
13291
13292[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Alphastring#7401
13293@Enigma it's very hard with procedural generated stuff. if it was easy he probably would, but it's probably going to stay a "maybe"
13294
13295[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] zeb#2885
13296I don't speak Brasilian, but I am sipping Canarias. That's close, right?
13297
13298[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Enigma#7859
13299its ok
13300
13301[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Enigma#7859
13302@zeb  canarias is in spain
13303
13304[13-Mar-19 05:47 PM] Mala#7349
13305I think cloud saves on steam have a max storage limit, and df saves are huge
13306
13307[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] zeb#2885
13308the mate, not the islands :p
13309
13310[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13311Wooden statues should be a thing, I have seen some awesome ones carved here in WA.
13312
13313[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Tarn#6100
13314@Lordarticus ha ha, trading cards seem almost guaranteed, if I recollect the things we are encouraged to provide
13315
13316[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Alphastring#7401
13317cloud saves would be interesting but i think you would just hit the filesize limits too quickly
13318
13319[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] ToadDude#5175
13320yay, DF badges for my steam profile :P
13321
13322[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Qvatch#0476
13323hey, the requirements suggest 500mb :)
13324
13325[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Not lemon#7885
13326make the trading cards as messed up as possible :P
13327
13328[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Not lemon#7885
13329kitten bone
13330
13331[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Not lemon#7885
13332dwarf vomit
13333
13334[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Enigma#7859
13335@zeb canarias in africa XD
13336
13337[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Tarn#6100
13338Yeah, not like saves are gonna get any smaller.
13339
13340[13-Mar-19 05:48 PM] Alphastring#7401
13341so you can get one or two worlds synced...? ?
13342
13343[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13344Oh speaking of saves; how easy is it going to be to turn on things like seasonal autosave? Will we still have access to those files in the steam version?
13345
13346[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Alehkhs#1307
13347@Meph  how are you indicating/animating multiple units on one tile? The traditional "flip" animation?
13348
13349[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
13350@Tarn
13351You said that DF's tech limit goes up to 1400, right?
13352
13353[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] zeb#2885
13354@Enigma Canarias Yerba Mate is in Rio Grande do Sul do Sul
13355
13356[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Enigma#7859
13357oh
13358
13359[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Enigma#7859
13360so yes
13361
13362[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] zeb#2885
13363aka uruguay
13364
13365[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Meph#6451
13366@Alehkhs Yes.
13367
13368[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Enigma#7859
13369yerba mate
13370
13371[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13372@Tarn do you think adding DRM to the steam version would be necessary to prevent people stealing the music and tile set?
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13375? (2) 
13376
13377[13-Mar-19 05:49 PM] Enigma#7859
13378i consume yerba mate almost everyday
13379
13380[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Tarn#6100
13381You can access your files from steam, but for user-friendliness, we might toy around with some slightly kinder -- very likely thought that, yeah, some of the txt init options will come up to in-game menus
13382
13383[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Enigma#7859
13384with a beverage called tereré
13385
13386[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13387Oh, nice!
13388
13389[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] zeb#2885
13390i need it to get yhrough thr day
13391
13392[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Enigma#7859
13393rio grande do sul is near of the state of parana
13394
13395[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] zeb#2885
13396yes, tereré russo for me today
13397
13398[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
13399So Meph *was* involved! Sneaky sneaky...
13400
13401[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Tarn#6100
13402@Asin (Birthday next month) 1400 is the guideline yeah
13403
13404[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13405@Tarn  I am super happy  you are giving ASCII mode Day 1. Is there going to be a new launcher? Will we be able to change things such as aquifers easy without changing txt files or using a mod like DFhack?
13406
13407[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Enigma#7859
13408i live in the state of  parana
13409
13410[13-Mar-19 05:50 PM] Enigma#7859
13411which makes frontier with paraguay
13412
13413[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Alehkhs#1307
13414@Tarn I had made a joke waaaay back while you were away, and said something about you bringing back seasonal flooding and thus river-valley farming. Any chances that stuff will make it back into the game? I figure it's gotta be different with the z-levels now, but I really miss the seasonal flooding of my fields.
13415
13416[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Tarn#6100
13417@dirty weeb Kitfox hasn't mentioned any special anti-piracy measures, and I have no particular plans there
13418
13419[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Articunno#5395
13420@dirty weeb the game is also being released on itch.io which im pretty sure doesnt have drm, so putting drm on steam wouldnt actually stop anything i think
13421
13422[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] zsielous [TOMORROW]#6845
13423https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Q0h-A3OOU
13424This is still one of my favourite clips
13425
13426[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Qvatch#0476
13427seasonal flooding is super evocative
13428
13429[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Ratinod#2903
13430The Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead is the only roguelike game with good translation support that I know. I do not think that in the near future in DF will add "tools" for the possibility of translation. ?
13431
13432[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] sapper#4462
13433yeah, right now farms are pretty easy to set up
13434
13435[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] ToadDude#5175
13436steam DRM is pretty bad, steam emulators exist so they can just get around it day 1 more or less, it won't really stop anyone from getting it if they wanted it
13437
13438[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] sapper#4462
13439compared to the old days where you had irrigation
13440
13441[13-Mar-19 05:51 PM] Putnam#0852
13442steam DRM is unlikely
13443
13444[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] ToadDude#5175
13445not that anyone should steal from you guys
13446
13447[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] zeb#2885
13448seasona flooding happens at my forts every goblin christmas
13449
13450[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Putnam#0852
13451i'm gonna point to ksp again
13452
13453[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] BOX#4578
13454@Tarn  Have you considered the addition of new civilisations than the dwarfs/elves/goblins/humans we have now at all? Maybe even civilizations springing  from some procedurally generated race from the myth/magic stuff when that eventually comes?
13455
13456{Reactions}
13457? 
13458
13459[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Putnam#0852
13460the old days where you had irrigation was straight up a bug lol
13461
13462[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] ToadDude#5175
13463yeah DRM free makes the most sense
13464
13465[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Putnam#0852
13466when you had to irrigate even on dirt floors
13467
13468[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Putnam#0852
13469you still have to irrigate on stone of course
13470
13471[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Lordarticus#6666
13472@BOX  There is a great mod for that
13473
13474[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Tarn#6100
13475@BOX yep, first magic release has weird proc civs guaranteed
13476
13477[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Putnam#0852
13478there's a lot of great mods for that
13479
13480[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Enigma#7859
13481Cataclysm dark days ahead have a portuguese translation but its very very wrong, looks like someone trowed the words in google translate
13482
13483[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Dadgame#0386
13484people pirating a free game would be... interesting
13485
13486[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] BOX#4578
13487awesome ?
13488
13489[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Alphastring#7401
13490i don't think he's too concerned with piracy lol
13491
13492[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] yabebto#9144
13493You should be aware of the SICKOS pirating your game for FREE at bay12 games
13494
13495[13-Mar-19 05:52 PM] Systech#3546
13496@Tarn How about adding a some kind like Roman concrete in the game?
13497
13498[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] rethnor#1869
13499@Dadgame it happens
13500
13501[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
13502@Enigma Like a reverse version of this...
13503https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_As_She_Is_Spoke
13504
13505[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] ToadDude#5175
13506I mean they'd be pirating it for the graphics/music so :P
13507
13508[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] ToadDude#5175
13509procedural civs sound super cool
13510
13511[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Tarn#6100
13512@Systech ha ha, yeah, we've fallen quite far behind Rome for a game with a supposed 1400 cutoff
13513
13514[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] Tarn#6100
13515need our camshaft concrete saws or whatever
13516
13517[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] BOX#4578
13518Yeah I know there's great mods, I was just interested if they were going to be in the game officially. Very excited to hear we'll get some procedural civs in myth/magic ? very exciting
13519
13520[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] zeb#2885
13521Rome was ahead of 1400 anyway
13522
13523[13-Mar-19 05:53 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13524@Dadgame I think those people would pirate it for the tile set
13525
13526[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Mayday#1280
13527Alright guys, thanks for the warm chat! I'll be signing off to go work on some stuff. Here's some animals as a parting gift ?
13528
13529{Attachments}
13530https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/555404726817259580/555508956685139994/unknown.png
13531
13532{Reactions}
13533❤ (14) ? (4) 
13534
13535[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Qvatch#0476
13536aww
13537
13538[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] sapper#4462
13539bye bye
13540
13541[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] ToadDude#5175
13542I love the pig haha
13543
13544[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Qvatch#0476
13545look at it's cute beady little eyes
13546
13547[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
13548I'm quite partial to that beak dog
13549
13550[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
13551ELEPHANTS
13552
13553[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13554Which is dumb as this release is made to support The Adams family
13555
13556[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Thrassoss#6659
13557any chance of addition features relating to exporting data for legends viewer mods?  It might be  bit much to ask a new Steam user to do the [save, copy files, open fort, retire fort, export] and [replace retired fort with unretired fort save files]  song and dance.
13558
13559[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] ToadDude#5175
13560beak dog is cool too yeah
13561
13562[13-Mar-19 05:54 PM] Qvatch#0476
135632x2 tile elephants :)
13564
13565[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] BOX#4578
13566My only Qualm for the beak dog is that they're meant to be a lot more colourful
13567
13568[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
13569YEAH
13570
13571[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13572I like Bearded Dragons for their menacing beards.
13573
13574[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] zeb#2885
13575rainbow beak dogs
13576
13577[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] Enigma#7859
13578how to deal with elves? they pretty made  all my dwarves have depression
13579
13580[13-Mar-19 05:55 PM] ToadDude#5175
13581melt them in magma
13582
13583[13-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Putnam#0852
13584obviously make it so that the alpha channel is used to color bits and bobs of the sprites based on raw-defined values ?
13585
13586[13-Mar-19 05:56 PM] zeb#2885
13587did you murder them? that usually helps
13588
13589[13-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Putnam#0852
13590okay i was joking when i started that but that's alarmingly possible
13591
13592[13-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Tarn#6100
13593beakdog went from a weird transition from rainbow lovebirds to featherless tremors 2 things, lot of confusing with where we were at there just with Zach and I
13594
13595[13-Mar-19 05:56 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13596Have them do something repetitive, like mining. You can smooth floor then carve tracks then smooth again. Usually helps keep them happy.
13597
13598[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] zeb#2885
13599When in doubt, enable DETAILSTONE
13600
13601[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Systech#3546
13602Will there be in the future unique civilizations of the Elves that have mastered the metallurgy?
13603
13604[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Enigma#7859
13605i killed they but my dwarves has horrified with the elfs death and my entire fort is trowing trantrum and killing people FUN
13606
13607[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Not lemon#7885
13608"the adams family" makes me think of something else lol
13609
13610[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Tarn#6100
13611@Thrassoss just to get the XML out of there?  Yeah, that would be reasonable.
13612
13613[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Not lemon#7885
13614@dirty weeb
13615
13616[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Mayday#1280
13617They still have the rainbow stripes in the raws.. we'll see what looks better ?
13618
13619{Reactions}
13620? 
13621
13622[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Mayday#1280
13623Bye!
13624
13625[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Tarn#6100
13626Thanks Mayday!
13627
13628[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] Dadgame#0386
13629So @Tarn do you watch twitch streams of DF by chance? I have always wondered if some lucky people ever had you pop in
13630
13631[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] newveeplus#3297
13632im depending on all of yall to make sure tarn and zach eat food and hydrate btw ?
13633
13634{Reactions}
13635food 
13636
13637[13-Mar-19 05:57 PM] zeb#2885
13638Our fortunes rise and fall together.
13639
13640[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13641Tarn has been answering questions for 6 hours straight lol ?
13642
13643[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Salin#8356
13644Oh right, food is a thing
13645
13646[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] newveeplus#3297
13647EXACTLY
13648
13649[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] newveeplus#3297
13650dont trust him!!!
13651
13652[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Not lemon#7885
13653AMA tomorrow as well :P
13654
13655[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] ToadDude#5175
13656@Tarn will certain races (procedurally?) have a greater affinity for magic? ie Elves will make better casters than humans?
13657
13658[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] newveeplus#3297
13659he is working too hard!!
13660
13661[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Tarn#6100
13662@Dadgame we did watch one where the guy flooded his fortress and then went offscreen and came back with a massive bong to deal with the trauma
13663
13664{Reactions}
13665? (17) 
13666
13667[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Putnam#0852
13668hmm
13669
13670[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Putnam#0852
13671thinking about the XML export
13672
13673[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] zeb#2885
13674noice
13675
13676[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Dadgame#0386
13677Haha
13678
13679[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] bghvgjdh#6969
13680lmao
13681
13682[13-Mar-19 05:58 PM] Dadgame#0386
13683Flooding of the fort is a traumatic experience man
13684
13685[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Not lemon#7885
13686@ToadDude i believe this has been answered in the past; ultimately the goal is that you can set it on a slider whether races are just unrelated to their nature or very tied to it... dont speak for toady ofc maybe im wrong
13687
13688[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Meph#6451
13689@Putnam Yeah, I think a couple of creatures will end up with raw-based colors. It's an ongoing discussion.
13690
13691[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Salin#8356
13692@Tarn I don't have a question for ya, but I want to say thanks for making this thing. I've been playing for years and never been bored with your game.
13693
13694[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] zeb#2885
13695Urist McStreamer cancels store water in fortress: blazing up.
13696
13697[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Thrassoss#6659
13698cool thanks
13699
13700[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13701@Tarn  he flooded it because you tricked him into it! I remember that df talk.
13702
13703[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] elmicha#4455
13704Hi Toady. Are there plans to make the calendar time passing before a unretire / adventurer adventure configurable? As in: Let it run for years instead of a few weeks?
13705
13706[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Tarn#6100
13707@ToadDude the myth generator prototype gives the races all kinds of special magical powers linked to the myth etc., and it can include the base races -- still a lot of work to do there
13708
13709[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Putnam#0852
13710okay with steam workshop support mod merging is... still important
13711
13712[13-Mar-19 05:59 PM] Rockzaw#2702
13713Did he flood it on purpose? If so that's self imposed trauma.
13714
13715[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Tarn#6100
13716@Untrustedlife this is true.  I left out a crucial detail, ha ha ha ha
13717
13718[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] ToadDude#5175
13719awesome, thanks Tarn!
13720
13721[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] sapper#4462
13722@Tarn a bit offtopic, but is there a possiblity of a graphical version of liberal crime squad?
13723
13724[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Lance Lake#4993
13725Just one question.. Is mouse support for clicking the menus going to be supported?
13726
13727[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Dadgame#0386
13728@Rockzaw df is self imposed trauma in general
13729
13730[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13731Can knowledge of foreign weapons be made learnable, like daggers. Dagger squad is hard to create from kobolds alone.
13732
13733[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] ToadDude#5175
13734and yeah I figured it was brought up somewhere in a Future of the Fortress, but there's a lot of them to dig through :P
13735
13736[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Putnam#0852
13737@sapper liberal crime squad is fully open source
13738
13739[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Tarn#6100
13740Glad you're enjoying the game @Salin !
13741
13742[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Putnam#0852
13743anyone could make such a thing if they want
13744
13745[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Systech#3546
13746@Tarn  Will there be any use of magic in production?
13747
13748[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Dadgame#0386
13749Someone actually is
13750
13751[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Snooze#4897
13752@Tarn Will you ever release the Myth Generator to the public? I think you said you wouldn't?
13753
13754[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Hoophy#5672
13755@Tarn are magical flying ships on the table for the boat update or beyond? (since magic will be implemented by then)
13756
13757[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] Putnam#0852
13758i'd thought about it, then realized it's a bad idea in this political climate for one such as myself
13759
13760[13-Mar-19 06:00 PM] TheGreySon#6705
13761Even though there are new tilesets by default, will the original ASCII still be readily available with the Steam version?
13762
13763[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Putnam#0852
13764yep
13765
13766[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Lance Lake#4993
13767Yes
13768
13769[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] TheGreySon#6705
13770Sweet
13771
13772[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Dadgame#0386
13773There is a graphics pack in the works for LCS
13774
13775[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Putnam#0852
13776okay wait, patch raws ARE possible
13777
13778[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Putnam#0852
13779hmm
13780
13781[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Lance Lake#4993
13782Just one question.. Is mouse support for clicking the menus going to be supported?
13783
13784[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] Tarn#6100
13785@elmicha Calendar advance is a popular idea, and I don't really have any big issues with it -- would be a little slow advancing for too long through the calendar, but I can't restart world gen properly without a ton of work
13786
13787[13-Mar-19 06:01 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13788@Tarn Will there be any GUI improvements or tweaks with the villains update?
13789
13790[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] elmicha#4455
13791great, thanks for the reply!
13792
13793[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] Systech#3546
13794Just imagine some hydromacers that lives in a dehydrated lands and that get paid a lot because they cast water
13795
13796[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] Putnam#0852
13797actually i do have a question about this
13798
13799[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] Not lemon#7885
13800adventurers can do that already np :P
13801
13802[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13803holy shit tarn is on discord
13804
13805[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] Not lemon#7885
13806its a good adventurer challenge run, just throw water at people
13807
13808[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] zeb#2885
13809rum o mancers would earn more
13810
13811[13-Mar-19 06:02 PM] rethnor#1869
13812@Systech doesn't mean much without economy
13813
13814[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Systech#3546
13815Or some magick industry  that will affect economy as well
13816
13817[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Tarn#6100
13818@Systech @Hoophy both of these on table and discussed to varying degrees.  they both have trickinesses naturally
13819
13820[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13821If i recall correctly magic involved in production/other usual activities sis planned, but i wouldn't expect it to be fully fleshed out right away
13822
13823[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Tarn#6100
13824@Snooze that's right, yeah.  just not close enough to what we want to do ultimately, and overpromises a bit on the effects front for the first pass
13825
13826[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13827eg no need for roads if everyone can teleport so no roads
13828
13829[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] Lance Lake#4993
13830@ThreeToe Is mouse support for clicking the menus going to be supported?
13831
13832[13-Mar-19 06:03 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13833One tricky thing I suppose is getting ships to move diagonally while retaining their original shape
13834
13835[13-Mar-19 06:04 PM] Snooze#4897
13836Thanks brother
13837
13838[13-Mar-19 06:04 PM] sapper#4462
13839raiding ivory towers for magic books would be really cool
13840
13841[13-Mar-19 06:04 PM] Putnam#0852
13842@Tarn are the raws going to change any for workshop support, or i guess has any talks gone on implementation at all? I still have no idea how it might work and i'm not sure if that's a general affliction or just a me problem
13843
13844[13-Mar-19 06:04 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13845@sapper  you can already do that to necromancer towers since tehy write books conatining the secrets of life and death
13846
13847[13-Mar-19 06:04 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13848holy shit zach is on discord too
13849
13850{Reactions}
13851? (5) ? (4) ? (4) ? (4) DF_Logo_White (9) 
13852
13853[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] Tarn#6100
13854@dirty weeb hmm, I don't recall anything gui for the villains, dunno if anything came up in the logs.  with the Steam release right after, it hasn't been the top thing to jump into for the last classic-only release
13855
13856[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] Rockzaw#2702
13857@Dadgame completely agree DF can be one of the scariest horror games & hoping things get better usually make it worse
13858
13859[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] rethnor#1869
13860meph was here too, mayday just signed off
13861
13862[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13863yep, both of them and they have been answering questions for 6 hours stright @TrumpetSounds
13864
13865[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13866dang
13867
13868[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] majsh#3449
13869@Systech sis
13870
13871[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13872that is tiring
13873
13874[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] Dadgame#0386
13875Things never get better. It's a slow decline from start to finish. And it is glorious
13876
13877[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] rethnor#1869
13878@Tarn How famous do you fel?
13879
13880[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] ThreeToe#2757
13881There will be some more mouse support, but its one of those things.  We want to release at some point,
13882
13883[13-Mar-19 06:05 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13884I would imagine, but they seem to have cought up
13885
13886[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] KPbIC#6651
13887@Systech  sis
13888
13889[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13890Thanks for the reply!
13891
13892{Reactions}
13893DF_Logo_White 
13894
13895[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] zeb#2885
13896Tarn is a mighty warrior indeed.
13897
13898{Reactions}
13899DF_Logo_White 
13900
13901[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Systech#3546
13902sbIs
13903
13904[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] KPbIC#6651
13905sыs
13906
13907[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Rockzaw#2702
13908I never thought despair could be as addicting as DF makes it
13909
13910[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] majsh#3449
13911Sbis
13912
13913[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Dadgame#0386
13914I second that question. Do you know how popular you are @Tarn ?
13915
13916[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Tarn#6100
13917@Putnam oh, no it's a pretty general affliction.  we're committed to getting Workshop to work, and we'd like to alter the raws as little as possible to do so, and we're willing to do some kind of in-game sorting/conflict detection etc. etc. to avoid changing the format too much.  But ultimately, if there's some giant other monkey wrench, we'll have to deal with it when it comes up.
13918
13919[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Lance Lake#4993
13920@ThreeToe Some mouse support is better than nothing. As long as it allows me to pull up a menu and click my choices so I don't have to memorize a long list of letters, I'll get it. ? Thank you.
13921
13922[13-Mar-19 06:06 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13923Dont forget there is also a AMA tomorrow folks
13924
13925[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Putnam#0852
13926hmm, okay
13927
13928[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Putnam#0852
13929well i guess that suggestion thread i posted is more relevant than i expected LOL
13930
13931[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] rethnor#1869
13932@Untrustedlife We're just prepping them for that ?
13933
13934[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] zeb#2885
13935Reddit... it is terrifying
13936
13937[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] KPbIC#6651
13938? ℹ ?
13939
13940[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Thihi#7687
13941I'd be interested to know how the thought of releasing on Steam originated? :)
13942
13943[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13944I suggested rapiers once and everyone was like 1400 cutoff and i was like "but ubiquitous in fantasy"
13945
13946[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] dirty weeb#4764
13947@ThreeToe I really hope you are doing alright. Stay healthy!:DF_Logo_White:
13948
13949[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] Tarn#6100
13950@rethnor @Dadgame ha ha, feels like it today.  and a guy at a subway took a selfie with me once not too long ago
13951
13952[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13953@Tarn will you make this your profile picture on discord
13954
13955http://gamesetwatch.com/110722-tarn.jpg
13956
13957[13-Mar-19 06:07 PM] elmicha#4455
13958@Tarn , some adventure mode conversation menus and lists are unwieldy (like if you want to be guided to a destination; this has never worked for me). When in the dev cycle do you think it is time for such things?
13959
13960[13-Mar-19 06:08 PM] Pasakoye#3246
13961@Tarn Random and rare fossil stones, like Marble Moose or Sandstone Unicorn would be fun to find and make crafts or blocks from. Cobaltite Giant Olm mugs!
13962
13963[13-Mar-19 06:08 PM] elmicha#4455
13964(if at all)
13965
13966[13-Mar-19 06:08 PM] rethnor#1869
13967@Tarn you are, I watched one of your talks at GDC I think on procedural generation and every person there knew and respected you and your work
13968
13969[13-Mar-19 06:08 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13970@elmicha  i imagine it would be a little but improved with the villain update since you need to be able to track things now more concisely and interrogate people @elmicha  but as usual UI is an ongoing issue
13971
13972[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] KPbIC#6651
13973CbIC
13974
13975[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] Tarn#6100
13976@TrumpetSounds ha ha, doesn't NYT have the rights to that?  I have no idea
13977
13978[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13979who cares
13980
13981[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
13982its discord
13983
13984[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] rethnor#1869
13985It may have even been @newveeplus that was the person introducing eveyone
13986
13987[13-Mar-19 06:09 PM] newveeplus#3297
13988hmmmm?
13989
13990[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
13991Tarn cares @TrumpetSounds
13992
13993[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] zeb#2885
13994@elmicha adventure mode has hardcoded weirdness that doesn't play well with most tilesets. As SteamDF gains momentum... well... adventure mode will either fall by the wayside or be due for some work.
13995
13996[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Keifre#3426
13997furry company o god
13998
13999[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
14000? i want pixel tarn
14001
14002[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Keifre#3426
14003kitfox
14004
14005[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Keifre#3426
14006uwu
14007
14008{Reactions}
14009? 
14010
14011[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
14012@Tarn Thanks for being here!
14013Will there be any UI changes?
14014I'm fine with the current one, but it's been a barrier to getting friends into DF.
14015
14016[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Rockzaw#2702
14017@Tarn Hello Tarn, I was wondering will the Steam version have native Linux support or will it be in a Wine wrapper?
14018
14019[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14020@zeb  why would adventure mode fall by the wayside? People including myself love adventure mode
14021
14022[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
14023they just said they might add mouse support some day
14024
14025[13-Mar-19 06:10 PM] Putnam#0852
14026there is some mouse support
14027
14028[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Putnam#0852
14029the game itself technically supports mouse
14030
14031[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] TrumpetSounds#7268
14032they might add more
14033
14034[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Putnam#0852
14035you can click for designations and things
14036
14037[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Putnam#0852
14038so basically i'm agreeing with you
14039
14040[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Drox#8380
14041@Tarn I would imagine this has been answered somewhere, but I'll admit I'm just excited to have any kind of exchange with Tarn haha. Is the Steam version going to be built on DF Classic in such a way that they will update together? Or does this constitute a major schism of DF versions?
14042
14043[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] zeb#2885
14044@Untrustedlife i love it too, but adding even more graphical stuff will make adv mode even less usable
14045
14046[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Keifre#3426
14047@Tarn will there be any performance improvements?
14048
14049[13-Mar-19 06:11 PM] Keifre#3426
14050pointless question xd
14051
14052[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14053Yep
14054
14055[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] StJesuz#6895
14056yes see Moore's Law
14057
14058[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14059@zeb  I dont think so? Its teh same game with teh same creatures, i dunno about any "hardcoded weirdness" that doesn't play well with tilesets
14060
14061[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Reith14#2648
14062Can there be an ultra rare item called “chronicle of the elephant wars”
14063
14064[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Alphastring#7401
14065@Drox not to steal your 'talking to tarn' moment, but the announcement states that both versions will continue to be updated going forward. the steam version just has different music and a graphic pack and workshop integration
14066
14067[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Keifre#3426
14068ultra rare item m8
14069
14070[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] rethnor#1869
14071@dirty weeb are you the hacker named 4chan?
14072
14073[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] zeb#2885
14074@Untrustedlife fire up adv mode with Meph tileset and see how it looks for yourself
14075
14076[13-Mar-19 06:12 PM] Keifre#3426
14077make an artifact and pray
14078
14079[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
14080@Tarn what about this as your pfp
14081
14082https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarn_Adams#/media/File:Tarn_Adams.jpg
14083
14084[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Reith14#2648
14085Will the steam version be free?
14086
14087[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14088@rethnor yes be careful around me sweaty
14089
14090[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] newveeplus#3297
14091$20
14092
14093[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Drox#8380
14094@Alphastring So I guess you could say their fortunes rise and fall together then? lol
14095
14096[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Reith14#2648
14097Oof
14098
14099[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14100@zeb  But is that really adventure modes fault or the tilesets fault? There should be meaningful differentiation between text and creatures/tiles. Its the same game, with all the same items
14101
14102[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] Keifre#3426
14103you can still get the free version
14104
14105[13-Mar-19 06:13 PM] zeb#2885
14106Meph looks gorgeous in fort mode, though unfortunately it looks like total butt in adv mode
14107
14108[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Ko#2807
14109$20 confirmed?
14110
14111[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] newveeplus#3297
14112confirmed
14113
14114[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] LobsterOnTheLoose#3250
14115@Reith14  I hope they add a reference to boatmurdered in the steam cards
14116
14117{Reactions}
14118? (2) 
14119
14120[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Ko#2807
14121awesome, thanks
14122
14123[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Keifre#3426
14124worth it
14125
14126[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14127And this update will improve tileset support
14128
14129[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Tarn#6100
14130@elmicha ha ha, yeah, adv mode conversation is a chore and otherwise clunky.  have a pre-magic item to fix some of that up I think?  at least in terms of getting to quests/places/etc
14131
14132[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] Keifre#3426
1413320$ for fps death
14134
14135[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] zeb#2885
14136and it's not anything meph can do. it's the game's own wuirks
14137
14138[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] zeb#2885
14139so when i play adv i use ascii and that is just fine
14140
14141[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] rethnor#1869
14142@LobsterOnTheLoose My current desktop is one of the desktops from that series
14143
14144[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] ctrlfrk#6546
14145scroll of town portal
14146
14147[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] zeb#2885
14148tho i also love meph ❤
14149
14150[13-Mar-19 06:14 PM] LobsterOnTheLoose#3250
14151@rethnor  wow
14152
14153[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14154@Tarn  adventure mode will never fall by the wayside right?
14155
14156[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Tarn#6100
14157@Quisoves Pugnat yeah, there'll be some changes.  we aren't to specifics yet, but it's a good opportunity to take a real stab at something
14158
14159[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14160Good evening all.
14161
14162[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
14163Good to know!
14164
14165[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14166@Keifre 20$ for the health fees for our beloved dorfmakers
14167
14168[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14169Second admin of the DF server here.
14170
14171[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Keifre#3426
14172ye
14173
14174[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14175I'll be lurking.
14176
14177[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] Keifre#3426
14178thats why you must buy
14179
14180[13-Mar-19 06:15 PM] rethnor#1869
14181@Dr_Somgosomgo DFFD?
14182
14183[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Keifre#3426
14184keep maker alive for more df
14185
14186[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Seren#2181
14187@Tarn I just want to say that I emailed you once about modding the game for localization and I really appreciate that you responded. I'm more than happy to pay $20 for a game that is worth maybe even $100 to me.
14188
14189[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14190Not DFFD.
14191
14192[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
14193@rethnor
14194That's the dwarf fortress mod storage
14195
14196[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14197A DF Discord server that existed for a few years now.
14198
14199[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] rethnor#1869
14200@Dr_Somgosomgo ah ok
14201
14202[13-Mar-19 06:16 PM] Lordarticus#6666
14203@Tarn  I have one last request..... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE sell a 4-pack, I want to buy copies for several people
14204
14205{Reactions}
14206? (6) ? ? ? (2) ? ? 
14207
14208[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Tarn#6100
14209@Rockzaw we're still hashing out the Linux/OSX situation there -- my slapdash solutions up to this point are pretty inappropriate, I think -- the mini is ancient and linux is being done through a little laparoscopic surgery window that I can't test the game in.  Should know more later.
14210
14211{Reactions}
14212? 
14213
14214[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] zeb#2885
14215why not buy it 4 times?
14216
14217[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Brightpaw#0017
14218I must dispense Dwarf fortress. There is a Need.
14219
14220[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Brightpaw#0017
14221a great need.
14222
14223[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14224@zeb  tarn wouldn't abandon half the game just for tile sets, sorry it just aint gonna happen
14225
14226[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] zeb#2885
14227or jusy send Tarn 80 bucks in the mail and copy kt yourself
14228
14229[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Keifre#3426
14230goblin gas chamber using forgotten beast
14231
14232[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14233*5
14234
14235[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Yumeido#4713
14236dwarf fortress battle royale
14237
14238[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
142394 pack for 4 player coop mode
14240
14241[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Tarn#6100
14242@Drox ha ha, yeah, like they said they are gonna update together.  I'm glad you're enjoying the game!
14243
14244[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Yumeido#4713
14245:^)
14246
14247[13-Mar-19 06:17 PM] Lordarticus#6666
14248@zeb  I guess you are right
14249
14250[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14251Dwarf fortress 76
14252
14253[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] rethnor#1869
14254Dwarf Fortress: Battle Royal 1400
14255
14256[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Lordarticus#6666
14257But I still want to buy like 3 4-packs
14258
14259[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Keifre#3426
14260dwarf fortress actually copied fortnite
14261
14262[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
14263Dwarf Fortress 99
14264
14265[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Drox#8380
14266@Meph  As an aside, congrats on being involved in this! Yours is my favorite tileset, and I love your launcher, too. Great job, you totally deserve this opportunity!
14267
14268[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Systech#3546
14269Dwarf Fortress Battle Royale
14270
14271[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] LobsterOnTheLoose#3250
14272@Keifre  Im hoping to use magic to booby trap some stuff and leave it out for some unfortunate kobold
14273
14274[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Mishtal#6068
14275@Tarn Congratulations on the announcement and the fantastic community response. 
14276
14277Could you say a few words about whether (or not?) the accessibility improvements for the steam release will include any changes to things like workshops, zones, burrows, and the various selection methods?
14278
14279E.g. Different ways of marking multiple tiles at once for various designation actions, workshops functioning different than zones / locations, that type of thing.
14280
14281[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] zeb#2885
14282This is a stack of 12 Dwarf Fortress roasts
14283
14284[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] TechnoJellyfish#8124
14285when's DF Legendary VR Edition on Switch, btw?
14286
14287[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Putnam#0852
14288dwarf fortress battle royale with some silly arena stuff is totally possible
14289
14290[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Meph#6451
14291@Drox Thank you ? It's pretty great. Never would I've guessed that this would happen
14292
14293{Reactions}
14294?? (7) 
14295
14296[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14297Dwarf fortress 2 the electric boogaloos
14298
14299[13-Mar-19 06:18 PM] Dr_Somgosomgo#8287
14300Yo Putnam
14301
14302[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Ratinod#2903
14303Multi-core cpu support plz (in the plans)
14304
14305[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Systech#3546
14306New funky mode
14307
14308[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Seren#2181
14309@Ratinod That's a huge task, unfortunately.
14310
14311[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Keifre#3426
14312@Meph yes looks good, i actually want to use a tileset for once m8
14313
14314[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Putnam#0852
14315and with only minor gains
14316
14317[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Rockzaw#2702
14318@Tarn Also do you maintain the Arch package https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=dwarffortress or do you have someone else do it?
14319
14320[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Seren#2181
14321It will have to happen eventually, but it's going to be an enormous refactoring process.
14322
14323[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Ratinod#2903
14324@Seren I know
14325
14326[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Tarn#6100
14327@Untrustedlife oh, yeah, don't have to worry about adv mode going anywhere
14328
14329[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14330@zeb ^
14331
14332[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] BlueZest#9442
14333holy moley, Of course when i have a big event i start feeling the SICK ive  been having all week. AGH.
14334
14335[13-Mar-19 06:19 PM] zeb#2885
14336Nice
14337
14338[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14339Thanks for the answer tarn
14340
14341[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
14342we're better off deleting adv mode tbqhtyvm
14343
14344[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14345no
14346
14347[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] LobsterOnTheLoose#3250
14348@BlueZest  I hope you feel better
14349
14350[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] zeb#2885
14351I was near to a fine Answer recently. That makes me so happy!
14352
14353[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14354just no @Mort Strudel
14355
14356[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] BlueZest#9442
14357aaah its ok, im powering through it. THE SHOW MUST GO ON
14358
14359[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Gremdavel#7478
14360@Tarn when's the next time you're gonna come to NYC?
14361
14362[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] sapper#4462
14363why even generate all that random goodness if you can't explore it
14364
14365[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Tarn#6100
14366@Seren thanks!  sorry that localization has proved so hard
14367
14368[13-Mar-19 06:20 PM] Meph#6451
14369@Keifre Have you tried the 32x tileset that's out atm?
14370
14371[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Not lemon#7885
14372@Mort Strudel how else will i grapple animals and recite poetry to them
14373
14374[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Cruxador#9109
14375Possibly more a Tanya question, but do the tileset/music that are made by people contracted by Kitfox for DF belong to Kitfox or Bay12?
14376
14377[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Not lemon#7885
14378dwarves aint gonna do that by themselves
14379
14380[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] rethnor#1869
14381But, it Adv mode is gone I won't be able to shake around a giraffe by the neck with my teeth
14382
14383[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Putnam#0852
14384oh here's a fun fact
14385
14386[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Julesy#5442
14387what have you done
14388
14389[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Putnam#0852
14390if you wrestle someone's shield in adv mode, you can use the shield
14391
14392[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Keifre#3426
14393@Meph the offical one or yours?
14394
14395[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] zeb#2885
14396Kisat Dur is so satisfying
14397
14398[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Putnam#0852
14399while they're still holding it
14400
14401[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Putnam#0852
14402it's wonderful
14403
14404[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Putnam#0852
14405it makes no sense, but it's wonderful
14406
14407[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Dazza#9004
14408@Meph  http://bay12games.com/dwarves/imgs/entrance_art.png Are the ramps here channels down? I can force myself to see them as up but it took a bit of brain power
14409
14410[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14411Exactly thats why its not going to be gone. Its one of the most entertaining RPG's ive ever played
14412
14413[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] sapper#4462
14414makes sense
14415
14416[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
14417the tileset is owned by me, I snuck into the meeting room during the contract signing and swapped out the papers
14418
14419[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Julesy#5442
14420meph you seduced poor toady
14421
14422[13-Mar-19 06:21 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14423@Putnam  I knew that one ?
14424
14425[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Pasakoye#3246
14426Does arena mode have music?
14427
14428[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Putnam#0852
14429those are up
14430
14431[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Putnam#0852
14432yeah they're very neckery
14433
14434[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] sapper#4462
14435you just pull it to block the attacks
14436
14437[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] rethnor#1869
14438@Dazza  http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173474.0
14439
14440[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14441i like grabbing weapons and jumping at the person to disarm them
14442
14443[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Alphastring#7401
14444Tarn how much $$ and/or naked women would be required for you to go open source? Answer can be in metric tons
14445
14446[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14447great fun
14448
14449[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] zeb#2885
14450Take their armor off and beat them with it
14451
14452[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Julesy#5442
14453what will happen to the normal version of DF now?
14454
14455[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Mort Strudel#9776
14456When we can actually change z levels it will make more intuitive sense that that's up ramps
14457
14458[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Seren#2181
14459@Alphastring He would have to die and not by murder.
14460
14461[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] dirty weeb#4764
14462@Alphastring Jesus
14463
14464[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Cruxador#9109
14465@Dazza They're WIP, it's being worked on.
14466
14467[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Yumeido#4713
14468@Julesy It will still carry on as usual, called Classic now
14469
14470[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Not lemon#7885
14471pull the movie move of grabbing their first when they try and punch
14472
14473[13-Mar-19 06:22 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14474@Julesy  it will continue to be updated alongside the graphical version
14475
14476[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] rethnor#1869
14477@Seren natural causes I heard, no "Accidental" car death either I suppose
14478
14479[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Yumeido#4713
14480@Cruxador I'm pretty sure the assets belong to Bay12, Kitfox is just publishing and will receive a % cut of sales
14481
14482[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Alphastring#7401
14483sorry i can't help it, i know he probably gets asked that all the time lol
14484
14485[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Rockzaw#2702
14486@Tarn Thanks for the reply, at least you're trying to make it work most developers seem to completely overlook Linux.
14487
14488[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Tarn#6100
14489@Mishtal unifying all the workshop/zones/etc. was part of a larger project and might be a bit much, but doing different mousy rectangles and that sort of thing definitely in the mix.  there will be an uncomfortable point where we have to decide just how much we can bite off in terms of wider rewrites, tradeoff between the delay and the first impression
14490
14491[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] rethnor#1869
14492@Tarn on a scal of 1-10 how disturbing it is for strangers on the internet to discuss the cause of your death...
14493
14494[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Seren#2181
14495@Alphastring He's fine with people reverse engineering the game, though.
14496
14497[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Meph#6451
14498@Keifre mine ^^
14499
14500[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Pasakoye#3246
14501Macros and Movie recording is baseline DF, learn to use them and save moments like a siege.
14502
14503[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Mishtal#6068
14504@Tarn Thanks for the response! Totally understand where you're coming from.
14505
14506[13-Mar-19 06:23 PM] Tarn#6100
14507@Rockzaw I'm not involved with the Arch package
14508
14509[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] Alphastring#7401
14510@Seren i don't have 60 years to spare tho
14511
14512[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] rethnor#1869
145131 being not disturbed at all
14514
14515[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] Meph#6451
14516@Dazza ramps were mentioned once or twice before. Mike is looking into changing the lighting on them.
14517
14518[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] Keifre#3426
14519@Meph shit rapes my eyes, i like the simple form of the new one. right now i just use 12x12 ascii
14520
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14522? 
14523
14524[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] Dazza#9004
14525Oh sorry, thanks for the response
14526
14527[13-Mar-19 06:24 PM] Tarn#6100
14528@Gremdavel ha ha, my travel plans are always like a few months ahead.  I've got nothing but GDC next week on the calendar right now.
14529
14530{Reactions}
14531? 
14532
14533[13-Mar-19 06:25 PM] Meph#6451
14534@Julesy : I did nothing. I just got an email one day, asking me to sign a paper stating that I might not talk about a project someone wanted me to work on. ^^
14535
14536[13-Mar-19 06:25 PM] Tarn#6100
14537@rethnor it's the kind of thing you get used to I suppose?  more of a 2 now
14538
14539[13-Mar-19 06:25 PM] sapper#4462
14540@Tarn also as the game is going to be more accessible to new players, will the fort mode squad control be polished in near future? like being able to retreat from combat
14541
14542[13-Mar-19 06:25 PM] newveeplus#3297
14543@Meph you signed your soul away, should've read the fine print
14544
14545[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Remaille#8493
14546souls are an elf thing :chwal:
14547
14548[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Dazza#9004
14549I've gotta say, I'm really excited for this
14550
14551[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] anormalusername1#7489
14552To armok, the blood God. It'll probably be worth it
14553
14554[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] clinodev#7030
14555@Meph Maybe not the best forum for it considering the time, but if you can work out a 16x version of the new tileset, there are still a load of people playing on crappy laptops. If I recall correctly, you worked it out with your big tileset.
14556
14557[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Cruxador#9109
14558Souls exist in DF
14559
14560[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Ratinod#2903
14561? The first step to being able to localize is to add native unicode support. It's easier than adding support for multi-core cpu.
14562
14563[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Dazza#9004
14564I should be working rn but I can't get my mind off it haha
14565
14566[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] elmicha#4455
14567@Tarn  is there _any_ information available about how some of the systems in DF work? I mean things like rumours, knowledge, information in general; but also e.g. how civilizations interact at worldgen? Or are these all "trade secrets"? 
14568I think in many regards you have been more innovative than any game studio (I know of) in many years. With every update you are demonstrating what games _can be_, if only someone puts the effort in. Thank you very much for that.
14569
14570[13-Mar-19 06:26 PM] Cruxador#9109
14571They're the part that turns into a ghost
14572
14573[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Putnam#0852
14574yeah all non-undead creatures have souls
14575
14576[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Tarn#6100
14577@sapper all the military stuff is utter garbage...  I hope we can do something with it.  we'll see
14578
14579[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Meph#6451
14580@newveeplus Mephistopheles, the literal devil from Faust, signed his soul away? ?
14581
14582[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Dazza#9004
14583are plants creatures
14584
14585[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] elmicha#4455
14586actually I think I'll ask this in the ama, so you'll have more time to reply.
14587
14588[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
14589yes
14590
14591[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Keifre#3426
14592@Tarn anything new to help fps? it creates a game within a game to prevent your game from turning into a slideshow
14593
14594[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
14595little did you know
14596
14597[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] sapper#4462
14598nice
14599
14600[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
14601I am... a more literal devil (?)
14602
14603[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] newveeplus#3297
14604(????)
14605
14606[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] yabebto#9144
14607@Tarn What's your favorite number/constant?
14608
14609[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Meph#6451
14610@clinodev well, no... I did make a 16x version of it, but it looked so crappy that I scrapped it
14611
14612[13-Mar-19 06:27 PM] Dazza#9004
14613@Putnam does that mean plump helmet men have souls, where does that leave plump helmets?
14614
14615[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] ctrlfrk#6546
14616@Tarn Just wanted to say thank you and wish you the best of luck
14617
14618[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] clinodev#7030
14619@newveeplus Do you by chance offer attractive soul rental fees?
14620
14621[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Putnam#0852
14622pump helmet men have souls but plump helmets don't
14623
14624[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Cruxador#9109
14625@newveeplus Hey, who owns the assets created by the people y'all contract? Kitfox or Bay12?
14626
14627[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Meph#6451
14628@newveeplus oh. sorry. In that case, please go ahead with soul catching
14629
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14631DF_Logo_White 
14632
14633[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Putnam#0852
14634the answers to all the great mysteries in life are simple, sometimes
14635
14636[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Julesy#5442
14637will this mean more optimisation for dwarf fortress to prevent late game FPS death?
14638
14639[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] rethnor#1869
14640@Meph  soul catching I guess requires webbing and a cage, right?
14641
14642[13-Mar-19 06:28 PM] Tarn#6100
14643@elmicha I haven't compiled information anywhere, and it always seems like it's better to work than do a write-up unless I'm prepping a talk -- we do have talks here and there that touch on things, but not much or deeply.  I'm not sure how to balance the time to do better here.
14644
14645[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
14646@clinodev souls are locked behind lootboxes actually
14647
14648{Reactions}
14649? ? 
14650
14651[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] clinodev#7030
14652@Meph Well one more vaguely possible demand for the pile, then.
14653
14654[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
14655@Cruxador I believe Bay12 does?
14656
14657[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
14658http://www.codex99.com/illustration/images/dore/inferno_9_sm.jpg
14659Victoria irl
14660
14661[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
14662how did you get this pic of me
14663
14664[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] newveeplus#3297
14665i didn't authorize this
14666
14667[13-Mar-19 06:29 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
14668I have sources
14669
14670[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] ThreeToe#2757
14671ok guys, we are off to get some coffee
14672
14673{Reactions}
14674☕ (7) 
14675
14676[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Alphastring#7401
14677@Tarn you missed our great moneymaking idea from earlier - sponsored worlds! "This world brought to you by Blood Red Mountain Dew. Praise Armok!"
14678
14679[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Yumeido#4713
14680@newveeplus is a tan demon. She is the only one of her kind. A lemon twisted into human form. She undulates rhythmically. Her hair is silver. Beware her deadly smooches!
14681
14682{Reactions}
14683bestdab 
14684
14685[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Mishtal#6068
14686@Tarn A question of curiosity, if you'd indulge me. Which version of the C++ standard do you use? I'm a pro C++ programmer myself, and I've found the stuff in C++11 and newer are a massive improvement.
14687
14688[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] orkel#5396
14689Tarn/Toady, are there plans to access the more long-time bugs like military equipment and dwarven healthcare issues before the Steam release? Most of us can deal with them due to experience and "niche" playerbase, but once it goes out on Steam, these kind of bugs will be crippling for the wider playerbase
14690
14691[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] ThreeToe#2757
14692thanks for your intrest
14693
14694[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Ko#2807
14695@Tarn thankyou for being awesome ❤
14696
14697[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] rethnor#1869
14698@ThreeToe  Thanks for hanging out and answering questions!
14699
14700[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Moin the Miner#3058
14701Have a nice coffee
14702
14703[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Alphastring#7401
14704enjoy your coffee, thanks for talking to us ❤
14705
14706[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Quisoves Pugnat#5256
14707@ThreeToe Have fun!
14708
14709[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] clinodev#7030
14710@Cruxador It's in the faq thingies, Bay12 owns everything, always.
14711
14712[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Enigma#7859
14713we can bring old savegames to the new dwarf fortress in steam?
14714
14715[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] Yumeido#4713
14716Thank you for talking with us Tarn and Zach! Have a good afternoon!
14717
14718[13-Mar-19 06:30 PM] sapper#4462
14719@Mishtal the abuse of templates in metaprogramming leads to huge compilation times though
14720
14721[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] SalmonGod#7530
14722thanks for hanging out with us Tarn and Threetoe!
14723
14724[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Untrustedlife#4412
14725C ya guys!
14726
14727[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Keifre#3426
14728people will bitch about fps death so hard on steam
14729
14730[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Alphastring#7401
14731people are going to bitch about everything on steam. let the tears flow
14732
14733[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Remaille#8493
14734:hello: have a good day
14735
14736[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] sapper#4462
14737also thank you guys for your hard work
14738
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14740? 
14741
14742[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Mishtal#6068
14743@sapper yes, that's certainly true. C++17 adds a lot of features that keep that from getting out of hand, in my opinion.
14744
14745[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Keifre#3426
14746watch boys, red reviews "my game died because i made 300 stepladders"
14747
14748[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Cruxador#9109
14749@clinodev "Everything" isn't always as unambiguous when coming from a corporation as it could seem to most folks.
14750
14751[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Systech#3546
14752@Tarn  When will it be possible to fully experience the life of a commoner peasant in adventurer mode? Grow crops, thump with friends, sing songs and start gossip about neighbors from day to day?
14753
14754[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] Asin (Birthday next month)#5459
14755Come back soon, @Tarn and @ThreeToe!
14756
14757[13-Mar-19 06:31 PM] newveeplus#3297
14758welp, now it's just us
14759
14760[13-Mar-19 06:32 PM] newveeplus#3297
14761let's burn it