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108:55] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva) is online.
2[08:59] emDash HUD: Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva) has entered chat range.
3[09:00] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I can't hear you
4[09:00] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): May I have a seat?
5[09:00] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): My audio is fucking up today
6[09:00] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Sure :P
7[09:00] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): There are three things I need to make you aware of
8[09:00] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Sure
9[09:01] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): 1. I am going to have to move house in January as my flatmate lost his job and I'm being forced to move.
10[09:01] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Ah that's shitty
11[09:02] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Hopefully you don't struggle too much to find a new place
12[09:02] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Well the Republic will continue up till the point where I can't do that anymore
13[09:02] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I know what it's like to have to move suddenly
14[09:02] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): For which period, while I'm moving, RP's may be cancelled
15[09:02] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Well I believe I might have an alternative option already so it might not be that big an issue
16[09:03] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Well if you want to nominate a temporary replacement then we can get them set up until you return
17[09:03] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): As I said, I will know nearer the time what is going to happen
18[09:04] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Anyway, moving on
19[09:04] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): 2. Wolfbite has decided not to come back or apply for membership here
20[09:05] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I told him the truth about the argument that I had with Lan yesturday and how I feel its unfair to chastise him when you get away with slagging off other groups in public.
21[09:06] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Well he was never asked to leave. We just asked him to moderate what he says in public areas
22[09:06] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): As a result, he has decided not to come back so now you three are directly responsible for the loss of a good crewmember. I doubt you care but I am fuming.
23[09:06] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I am unwilling to work in an environment where command does not feel they are bound by the same rules as anyone else.
24[09:08] Nexus Blaser (nexus300) is online.
25[09:08] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond. We went over this. The Command group discusses things umong themselves
26[09:08] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): That aside, I have also noticed that you have taken over complaint management, a task that was agreed would fall under my jurisdiction.
27[09:09] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I believe this probably has something to do with the fact that I would not punish Wolfbite and kiss Lan's arse.
28[09:10] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): If I'm being blunt
29[09:10] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Your job is to review decisions made but not actually carry them forward
30[09:10] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): So you deal with review of them but I deal with implementing them
31[09:10] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): So, for example, if a member has been punished they would go to you to review it
32[09:10] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): And then you can examine if it warrants being reassed
33[09:10] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): reassessed*
34[09:11] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Whereas I would determine if the evidence warrants any punishment and to what extent
35[09:11] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You have no right
36[09:11] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and are completely incapable of that
37[09:11] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I am completely capable of it.
38[09:11] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): And I have every right
39[09:11] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): It's always come under CoS
40[09:12] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No, your job is paperwork, nothing more
41[09:12] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): And your role was not to deal directly with punishment it was to review if someone should be allowed back in, something which we had no issue in giving you
42[09:12] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): No, my job is more than paperwork
43[09:12] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Well regardless, I don't want the job
44[09:12] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I'm the third in command of the group and manage everything in the Command branch from marketing to finances, and membership services which includes personnel
45[09:12] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I am not going to be under your thumb when you make decisions that are not in the best interest of the group, only yourself
46[09:13] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): However
47[09:13] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): When I have Personnel Officers and Personnel Chiefs they would be allocated those roles
48[09:13] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You reallocate roles as you see fit
49[09:13] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Not really
50[09:13] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Yes, you do
51[09:13] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): It's always been like that
52[09:13] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): We just put it in writing
53[09:13] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Put it this way Kaiser
54[09:14] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): If you don't resign, I will dissolve the ship
55[09:14] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and you won't have an active ship
56[09:14] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Because I am sick of your blatantly corrupt power plays.
57[09:14] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Are you having a laugh?
58[09:14] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Now little doggy, run along and take that to your masters
59[09:14] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I've put down something which already existed down on paper
60[09:15] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I am sick of not having my opinion respected
61[09:15] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and being placated by a child and yes, you are a child
62[09:15] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Your opinion is considered but you don't get to decide who Lan and Ben wants as CoS
63[09:15] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You act like one most of the time
64[09:15] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I haven't actually given you any commands though
65[09:15] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You are immature, negligent
66[09:15] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and abusive
67[09:16] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and I do not like the direction that this group is going in, if I'm honest
68[09:16] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You don't value freedom of expression
69[09:16] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond, I'm goin to assume you're in a shitty mood from the fact you're moving so I'm going to give you the chance to think about these things with more time rather than the mood you're in at the moment. I understand you're going through a lot in RL meaning it will spill in to SL however you can't keep blaming me for the things that are happening
70[09:16] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No
71[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You are a bully
72[09:17] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): How have I bullied any one?
73[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I have seen straight through you for a long time
74[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You don't set a positive example for this fleet
75[09:17] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Who have I bullied though?
76[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You have done it to me in the past Kaiser
77[09:17] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): 'Past'
78[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and others
79[09:17] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): outside of this group
80[09:18] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and I have no interest in being part of your little vengeance slagging match between you, Kressler and John.
81[09:18] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): However, in the fleet, as it stands, I have only ever asked you to do two things; The Uniform, and ask Wolfbite to moderate himself a little more. I wasn't the one asking the request to be done but you still somehow placed the blame on me.
82[09:18] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Simply put, I have 0 confidence in you.
83[09:18] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and I am not going to follow your orders
84[09:18] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Its as simple as that
85[09:18] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I've never given you any orders to follow
86[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You've tried
87[09:19] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): You can deal with Kermie for all I care
88[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and I've slapped you back down
89[09:19] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): He's your direct chain of command member
90[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No, he isn't either
91[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You do not tell me, who my superiors are
92[09:19] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): No, actually, Lan and Ben changed things to avoid you moaning.
93[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Having the republic here is a courtesy, not a right.
94[09:19] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You do not own my ship
95[09:20] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): We;ve been more than with you over the last few months. We've try to bend to your requests and we've tried to keep some order
96[09:20] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): You need to give some of that back too
97[09:20] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No
98[09:20] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Wolfbite was out of line
99[09:20] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You aren't willing to accept that you are corrupt
100[09:20] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Heavily out of line in calling the leader of our group a "fucking cunt"
101[09:20] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): He has every right to
102[09:20] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): No
103[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Like you have every right to say it about John
104[09:21] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): This is a private estate with rules
105[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): End of story
106[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Practice what you preach
107[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): But you can't, can you?
108[09:21] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I don't announce my distaste about John during a populated meeting
109[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You do
110[09:21] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I asked him to be mindful of what he said, which is more than fair
111[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You were slagging him off yesturday after the command meeting with Benjamin Balen and Lykan present
112[09:21] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): We asked you to deal with it because you're his CO and its your ball to roll with
113[09:21] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): We're damned if we do, damned if we don't
114[09:21] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): A member of general membership was there
115[09:22] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): That PROVES that you do it
116[09:22] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Balen is a very close friend of this sim and a Captain
117[09:22] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): And you were more than happy to join in on that conversation
118[09:22] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Thats why I asked Lykan to beam up there
119[09:22] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): To catch YOU out
120[09:22] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and expose you for the consistent liar you are
121[09:22] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): No you didn't. You don't get to sit there claiming I'm corrupt while doing the same things that you claim to be against
122[09:22] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Now I have evidence that you will slag other groups off to the general members
123[09:23] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): You went off on one about Yoko but then asked for Neo to be banned for your own personal reasons
124[09:23] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): AFTER the new rules came into effect
125[09:23] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I expect your resignation
126[09:23] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Goodday Kaiser
127[09:23] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond you won't have it and there isn't a single command officer in this fleet who will support you
128[09:23] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and... just shows how the Fleet isn't worth saving if thats the case
129[09:24] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Just because you have friends, doesn't mean you can fudge the rules
130[09:24] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Goodday
131[09:24] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond. I'm gonna do what Phil has done. Go chill out but you're banned for 24 hours until you can learn to cooperate with us more
132[09:24] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Seriously?
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139[08:59] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I need to talk to you
140[08:59] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Yes?
141[09:25] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Lan and Ben will support me
142[09:25] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and Nexus has logs of you doing it
143[09:25] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You will resign, one way or another
144[09:26] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond. Go chill out for Christ's sake
145[09:26] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No
146[09:26] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Resign
147[09:26] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I want you gone or the entire Republic goes
148[09:26] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Step down from the position
149[09:26] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You are not fit to lead
150[09:27] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Your only active ship
151[09:27] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): It's not happening Diamond. You can't call me these things and then have no evidence. The simple fact is that you've been left alone but you still keep going on your rants and abusive vocal moans. You scream down the Mic if you don't get your own way and you always turn this against me - out of most these incidents I've only been these to calm you the fuck down
152[09:27] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): The rule is "You are not allowed to slag people off in front of the general membership"
153[09:27] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You did it yesturday
154[09:27] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): As much as you feel I am out of line you need to have a very close look at yourself before judging others
155[09:27] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): In front of Lykan
156[09:28] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): So you have broken your own rule
157[09:28] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Nexus agrees with me too
158[09:28] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Resign
159[09:28] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): One person, in the sandbox, who you intentionally planted there to create false evidence
160[09:28] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I will not work with you
161[09:28] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and how dare you ban me for discovering the truth about you
162[09:29] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You are corrupt and only in this for yourself
163[09:29] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You don't follow your own rules
164[09:29] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): So how the hell can you expect others to?
165[09:29] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I banned you because I'm sick to the teeth of having to deal with your non stop attacks. You can't have it all your own way
166[09:30] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): So once again
167[09:30] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Go chill the fuck out
168[09:30] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Have some coffee or w/e
169[09:30] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): And think about it rationally
170[09:30] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): No
171[09:30] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I don't need to
172[09:30] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You've been exposed and I want you to accept responsibility
173[09:30] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and step down
174[09:30] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I am perfectly calm
175[09:31] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): You're not calm. You're John Majoring all over the place.
176[09:31] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Oh and I will happily go to Steve, the owner of the TS and explain what happened
177[09:31] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Because you are a hypocrite
178[09:32] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I am perfectly calm
179[09:33] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): Diamond. Once again, you say these things without basis, and without actually practicing the ideals you say you represent. At least I admit as to what I am, whereas you seem to have this false dichotomy of being completely absent of sin or fault.
180[09:33] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I will unban you from teamspeak once you unban me from the sim
181[09:33] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I'm good thanks.
182[09:33] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): How dare you unban me for speaking the truth
183[09:34] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): ban
184[09:34] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): Typical of you, isn't it Kaiser
185[09:34] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You have more Nick in you then I realised
186[09:35] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): You've had it coming Diamond. There's only so much personal attacking that will be tolerated. You do it non stop and then you come on and start nailing down even more it. You're banned because you need to chill out and go think about this rationally. The same reason Phil banned you from Discord last week.
187[09:35] ÉŽ DA KAISER  (blackphantomveil): I don't know what is going on with you right now but it doesn't need to be placed on my doorstop every day.
188[09:35] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): I want you gone
189[09:36] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): End of story
190[09:36] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): You have absolutely no right to do this to me
191[09:37] Diamond Frostmane (grandeeva): and I am sick of you acting like you have some power over me