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1E1110T	I'll tell ya, this show is dense
2E1110T	I don't think it's tyrell, I don't think he really knows who the other hackers are
3E1110T	the dark army is a good choice
4E1110T	so is Mr Robot himself
5E1110T	or it could be Evil corp, since they said they know who is responsible
6E1110T	nope
7E1110T	why would he want to kill everyone from fsociety
8E1110T	it's an act of war
9E1110T	this episode was very ominous about the stakes 
10E1110T	or a future technology goes very wrong indeed, Earth is most likely to be destroyed when the sun swells into a red giant  Read more at: http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=303&t=28032&sid=afbba24d0596f77c50afcd53f8e104e5
11E1110T	earth is going to be destroyed when the sun wells into a red giant
12E1110T	I don't think it's an underworld organization
13E1110T	I think the dark army, much like the black fist that orchestrated the assasination of franz ferdinand(pictured in the episode), is an extension of the chinese government
14E1110T	most chinese hackers are government
15E1110T	I think we are on the brink of war
16E1110T	that explains the map behind Philip Price
17E1110T	Europe in 1914
18E1110T	WW1 starting
19E1110T	splitting hairs in terms of the point I'm making
20E1110T	there is a war coming
21E1110T	the perfectly fired shot is the hack
22E1110T	just like franz ferdinand
23E1110T	why not, white rose was discussing the congo
24E1110T	did you see all of the red white and blue in the episode?
25E1110T	it's a world war
26E1110T	it's not a war against china
27E1110T	I think it's posisble the world is going to end when the show ends
28E1110T	yes I'm talking fiction lol
29E1110T	listen to what alexis says when Dom asks her how the world ends
30E1110T	or a future technology goes very wrong indeed, Earth is most likely to be destroyed when the sun swells into a red giant  Read more at: http://transcripts.foreverdreaming.org/viewtopic.php?f=303&t=28032&sid=afbba24d0596f77c50afcd53f8e104e5
31E1110T	a future technogly goes very wrong
32E1110T	or the sun swells into a red giant
33E1110T	the son
34E1110T	swells into a red giant
35E1110T	the guy in the church group, attaching the indian man 'because he's indian', another indication of nationalism, violence, nativism
36E1110T	an what does he say? he says 'I saw red'
37E1110T	attacking*
38E1110T	I'll give you a perfect example
39E1110T	last night, they told us what Ray's illegal business is
40E1110T	he gets in the car and says to his henchman
41E1110T	'this heat wave is a motherfucker. what's the high today?'
42E1110T	the high
43E1110T	it's all right there
44E1110T	the high
45E1110T	yeah, silk road, exactly
46E1110T	but that word, the high, like the show is about some heat wave, like anyone else is talking about a heat wave on the show
47E1110T	this episode was filmed months ago
48E1110T	you really think he put the line in about a heat wave because america is having a heat wave this week?
49E1110T	it was a totally random line with a purpose, it was out of the blue
50E1110T	I just can't see why they'd waste a minute of screen time talking about the weather
51E1110T	it was tacked onto the point of the scene
52E1110T	forget the writing, any editor would have removed it
53E1110T	well, that song had words, I wouldn't say it was wasted
54E1110T	also while she was walking into the restaurant they showed the protests
55E1110T	it's not like nothing was happening
56E1110T	you don't think a map of europe in 1914 when WW1 started, and referencing Franz Ferdinand, is some intentional foreshadowing of a great conflict?
57E1110T	why not
58E1110T	that was WW1
59E1110T	what's the difference?
60E1110T	philip price isn't talking about a single gunshot changing a company
61E1110T	why would it take long, in one season they collapsed global finances
62E1110T	it will still be told through a personal story
63E1110T	I said 1 season
64E1110T	so what is the meaning of the franz ferdinand reference
65E1110T	is that yet to come?
66E1110T	obviously philip price is talking about great stakes 
67E1110T	it wasn't just a picture, it was a picture they talked about lol
68E1110T	it didn't accidentally get placed on the wall and written into the dialogue and filmed by a camera
69E1110T	show me the historical relevance of sneezing and we can discuss it
70E1110T	is there a map behind philip price of the world when the bubonic plague struck?
71E1110T	not just the world, specifically europe
72E1110T	and not just a map, the countries in conflict
73E1110T	that seems like a melodramatic a reaction lol
74E1110T	-a
75E1110T	http://imgur.com/a/1JxKk
76E1110T	there was a point to her asking what time it is while she looked at her phone
77E1110T	it emphasizes how alone she is
78E1110T	she does it for the company
79E1110T	that's the same reason she's cybering and on dating websites 
80E1110T	it wasn't just pure
81E1110T	she is a lone
82E1110T	esmail is in interviews saying they are examining what loneliness is in modern times
83E1110T	talking to a robot is one of the ways they are examining that
84E1110T	you think they put red white and blue into the episode because it airs on USA network? lol
85E1110T	why not every episode then
86E1110T	who on earth sees red white and blue and associates it with USA network
87E1110T	I'm american
88E1110T	I don't associate those colors with USA network at all
89E1110T	they don't even use those colors
90E1110T	yeah
91E1110T	yeah that was a bit of a stretch
92E1110T	they would've burned it afterwards you'd think
93E1110T	yeah but dj mobley is on the flyer
94E1110T	yeah
95E1110T	the DJ is one of the hackers in fsociety
96E1110T	DJ Mobley = Mobley the hacker
97E1110T	he's a nervous wreck and is fleeing the city
98E1110T	loll
99E1110T	yeah, I think that's one of the challenges of the show...this shit would be happening via computers in real life
100E1110T	they wouldn't be having hacking parties
101E1110T	so would mr robot
102E1110T	not that I think it's him
103E1110T	plus elliot has been to his apartment
104E1110T	so mr robot might have been very busy lately
105E1110T	that's where they found him
106E1110T	his corpse was found where elliot met him, that open air porch with desks, pretty sure
107E1110T	it's his moms 
108E1110T	yeah, dunno, wonder if we'll see that again in current time
109E1110T	I liked shayla, I was pretty surprised she died
110E1110T	she seemed like a major character
111E1110T	she grounded elliot in a way I think the show is missing
112E1110T	she was human
113E1110T	I guess they're trying that with leon
114E1110T	Angela's in a bit of a tricky situation huh
115E1110T	seems like society is screeching to a halt in this episode
116E1110T	people can only take out 50 dollars a day from the bank
117E1110T	business closing, trucking has stopped and they can't accept deliveries
118E1110T	businesses*
119E1110T	the restaurant only accepting cash in advance
120E1110T	things are getting worse
121E1110T	well, white rose meets with the american government in the promos
122E1110T	I'm thinking china is involved in the bailout
123E1110T	yeah it was the promo for the season I believe
124E1110T	not sure if its the next ep
125E1110T	white rose has his/her back to the camera and is slightly profiled 
126E1110T	elliot in central park, that's a good sign
127E1110T	some weird moment of elliot and angela smiling at dinner
128E1110T	I'm still watching the first one lol
129E1110T	joanna with the guy who parked Tyrell's SUV
130E1110T	that's very interesting
131E1110T	joanna must be interrogating him
132E1110T	darlene is kissing the one-legged hacker
133E1110T	the one who poses with the bull's balls
134E1110T	that elliot/angela scene, the way elliot is smiling, it's either a dream or a flashback
135E1110T	okay, vid #2
136E1110T	oh the little girls from the ep
137E1110T	the shining is where they're from
138E1110T	probably influenced this video too
139E1110T	http://cdn.hitfix.com/photos/6051971/shining_2twins.jpg
140E1110T	yeah definitely creepy 
141E1110T	I wonder why there are 3 girls
142E1110T	yeah that's a good point, I don't remember seeing that at all
143E1110T	hmm
144E1110T	yeah there's no rules to promos really
145E1110T	any idea how to find that painting behind joanna lol
146E1110T	so is aliza
147E1110T	who says 'what happens if I lose' in the promo, is that the new CTO guy
148E1110T	oh, no, it's Elliot who says it
149E1110T	'I didn't start this game, you did' - Philip Price 
150E1110T	angela in central park, looking up, probably sees horrible shit unfolding
151E1110T	*times square
152E1110T	financial ticker reporting chaos type of thing
153E1110T	found it: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-t-D876xkARU/V1BjUTHjFrI/AAAAAAAAuA8/852mBjHL8a8kPc1CNeivKz0cE5BbuDmOwCLcB/s640/Kurt%2BSolmssen--RG%2Band%2Bthe%2Byellow%2Bboat.jpg
154E1110T	very close to it
155E1110T	not the exact painting
156E1110T	a starting point perhaps
157E1110T	she might just be profiled towards the photo on the mantle
158E1110T	in the promo, yeah 
159E1110T	here it is: http://kurtsolmssen.net/images/yloboat.jpg
160E1110T	same painting
161E1110T	set designer 
162E1110T	the restaurant they go to, Fidelio's, is a real nyc restaurant
163E1110T	named after an Italian opera by the same name
164E1110T	about a woman who goes undercover into a political prison to free her husband
165E1110T	'a story of personal sacrifice, heroism and eventual triumph with its underlying struggle for liberty and justice'
166E1110T	this is obviously a huge stretch but my first thought when he was taking her out for 'semiffredo' was Fredo from the godfather
167E1110T	the biggest traitor there is
168E1110T	and the seinfeld episode title, from when Leon is speaking backwards, 'The Betrayal'
169E1110T	and f society being hunted
170E1110T	a motif developing 
171E1110T	perhaps
172E1110T	yeah, just reading that now
173E1110T	the screenshot of the cellphone is interesting
174E1110T	3 messages..1 from the NY public library. 1 from an app. 1 from a human who has no idea who she is.
175E1110T	i.e., totally alone
176E1110T	'connecting the world' and 'putting a revolution at your fingertips' 
177E1110T	'available august'. I wonder if they will actually roll it out.
178E1110T	well, esmail has always cited the arab spring as inspiration for the show
179E1110T	and they were fighting the government by organizing on twitter etc
180E1110T	but it's funny that the app that puts 'a revolution at your fingertips' would be created by the company that the revolution is targeting
181E1110T	well, yeah, companies use that world all the time
182E1110T	but in the context of the show, there is actually a revolution happening
183E1110T	yep
184E1110T	I'm in NYC
185E1110T	so I've stumbled on some clues in this episode that I think indicate where the show is headed
186E1110T	and I just found another one
187E1110T	when Rome is walking Mobley through the back alley, to the arcade
188E1110T	there is graffiti on the wall
189E1110T	it reads '13 F.T.W. 69'
190E1110T	http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDYzOA==/z/PEgAAOSwv0tVQXZx/$_58.JPG
191E1110T	this is patch for the sons of outlaws, an 'anarchy gang'
192E1110T	a biker gang
193E1110T	I don't think 'they' play a role
194E1110T	I think we are headed for total anarchy and chaos and elliot is going to have blood on his hands
195E1110T	Here are the major clues: 
196E1110T	1. Rome, the character, has fallen  2. Trucking has ceased  3. People have a $50 daily cash withdrawal limit 4. Credit cards no longer work 5. Businesses are closing 6. People are selling household items for money in Coney Island 7. People are digging thr
197E1110T	at each other's throats. 10. Graffitti in the backalley behind the arcade reads '13. F.T.W.' 69' the patch of an anarchist biker gang. 14. 'The nexus of all the evil in the universe'...the scene of a crime which causes worldwide riots, anarchy, and bloods
198E1110T	oh, and I forgot the guy beating a man 'because he was indian'
199E1110T	'I saw red'
200E1110T	we are going to see massive riots and bloodshed
201E1110T	yep, but we haven't seen it yet
202E1110T	and for Rome to literally fall
203E1110T	in the last ep
204E1110T	elliot is going to have to come to terms with what he's done
205E1110T	all of the bloodshed will be on his hands...possibly gideon's, and possibly Rome's as well
206E1110T	he is going to have to accept it
207E1110T	all the innocent people dead in the streets...the unmasking of society as everyone attacks each other
208E1110T	people beating each other 'because he was indian'
209E1110T	the entire thing is coming down
210E1110T	it's the arab spring on a global scale 
211E1110T	in the episode?
212E1110T	I think I've discovered one of the major mysteries of the show just now lol
213E1110T	good morning
214E1110T	IronY I have a question for you
215E1110T	anyone awake?
216E1110T	Hi Zennn
217E1110T	I have a question for you
218E1110T	morning gnome
219E1110T	it will probably take me a month, there is so much evidence, I'm barely done with episode 1
220E1110T	it's really fucking daunting 
221E1110T	tbh I barely want to do it
222E1110T	listen man
223E1110T	you obviously aren't going to agree with me
224E1110T	you barely think the details I'd list are intentional, which is cool, everybody watches the show differently
225E1110T	but when I list it, I'm going to list all of it, because anyone can pick apart each detail and dismiss it. I could. It's the context of the 500 pieces of information all being in ONE work that make it 97% impossible to be a coincidence.
226E1110T	no, it can't
227E1110T	it's inshatterable
228E1110T	it's impossible that there have been 500 coincidences all related to the same topic
229E1110T	it will never be shattered
230E1110T	that's my point
231E1110T	I don't take meds 
232E1110T	never have luckily
233E1110T	From the first 2 words of the first episode, Esmail has intentionally crafted a hidden story with endless easter eggs. 
234E1110T	Rewatching the show from the start will be like rewatching The 6th Sense, but much, much better, much denser, much more thought out
235E1110T	at every opportunity he has inserted a clue into the image on the screen or the dialog being spoken
236E1110T	I've yet to find a single scene that doesn't refer to it
237E1110T	and yeah, if I were you, I'd bust my balls and tell me I'm wrong or crazy, because most of the time, people are way, way off
238E1110T	but it is all encompassing and answers every mysterious, strange, unanswered moment in theshow
239E1110T	you're right
240E1110T	it's a daunting task and I want it to be presented in an organized way
241E1110T	also, I'm just now re-watching season 1 through this lens for the first time and seeing all of this
242E1110T	meanwhile I have actual work to do
243E1110T	start with the first two words of the series
244E1110T	http://www.a-i.com/mybot.asp?uid=s32i2cX5JlbOf%2FjZd8X%40g6lTElRduSl0QdwxyNdaN9E%3D
245E1110T	hello friend is not a greeting that humans use
246E1110T	it's a rudimentary AI greeting
247E1110T	and like I said, wait for the context
248E1110T	because each fact on it's own, of course it can be called into question
249E1110T	of course
250E1110T	elliot and tyrell are for sure AI/androids, I can only guess that mr robot was involved in creating both of them, but that part is a guess
251E1110T	I know, that is the biggest question, the biological component
252E1110T	not if it's advanced enough
253E1110T	you'll see based on the mountain of evidence that it's easier to wonder how an adroid could use drugs 
254E1110T	let's go chronologically in episode 1
255E1110T	first off, the title of the show is Mr. Robot. Not much different from I, Robot. A personified robot.
256E1110T	dismiss it, move on. "Hello friend' a robot greeting
257E1110T	next line of dialog
258E1110T	Maybe I should give you a name. But that’s a slippery slope’ 
259E1110T	just like creating elliot
260E1110T	an identity
261E1110T	a computer with a name is a slippery slope
262E1110T	a conscious AI is a slippery slope
263E1110T	we're already debating this in real life, obviously
264E1110T	next..he's waiting in a coffee shop, but not drinking coffee
265E1110T	he barely ever eats, and when he does, it's usually fries or potatoes
266E1110T	why does it say in his journal that he loves potatoes?
267E1110T	it's the one food that you can literally hook wires up to and generate electricity
268E1110T	no, tyrell didn't, it's not his baby
269E1110T	want to talk about tyrell? here you go
270E1110T	he's named after The Tyrell Corporation in Blade Runner. The company that produces androids with the motto 'more human than human'.
271E1110T	Why is he capable of abusing Joanna without 'apologizing and ruining it' like the bachelor tv star
272E1110T	why is he socially retarded enough to walk in on a woman in the bathroom
273E1110T	why does joanna expect elliot to understand dutch?
274E1110T	because google understands dutch
275E1110T	I can link you to 50 AI chatbots on the internet that use Hello friend as their greeting
276E1110T	Tyrell's hometown didn't exist before 1998, by the way
277E1110T	according to his USA character bio
278E1110T	again, wait for the context
279E1110T	okay, it's A food that generates energy
280E1110T	sorry I said electricity instead of energy
281E1110T	wrong
282E1110T	it can power lightbulbs
283E1110T	you're saying you can't convert a potato to a battery? lol
284E1110T	so a potato can't power a lightbulb?
285E1110T	okay, noted
286E1110T	are there many foods that share this characteristic with potatoes
287E1110T	know any of the others?
288E1110T	I'm loving this feedback btw, it's a big help
289E1110T	you keep bringing up my sanity as if it's even in question lol
290E1110T	that's a bold claim
291E1110T	loll
292E1110T	what would you say I'm suffering from
293E1110T	I'll be sure to link it when it's done
294E1110T	I'm not sure delusional delusional schizophrenia is a thing
295E1110T	don't
296E1110T	I purposefully fed you some weak shit to see how you'd react
297E1110T	and frankly, you're not my target audience 
298E1110T	echo chamber? as if I don't talk to actual humans instead of chatroom people 
299E1110T	lol
300E1110T	that's some nickname 
301E1110T	I know what an echo chamber is
302E1110T	of course I do
303E1110T	I'm in one right now
304E1110T	I'll wait for the other 2 echoes to agree
305E1110T	or maybe I should log off so you can whine about me some more, like you did last time
306E1110T	god I admire you
307E1110T	If it weren't for Qwerty, I'd be completely empty.
308E1110T	maybe he's talking about ep4
309E1110T	once the grid goes black I can't imagine his dialysis machine is going to hold up 
310E1110T	'me and you, we're more alike than you think' says man who is kept alive by a computer 
311E1110T	oh, does Ray have that?
312E1110T	guess we'll have to wait and find out
313E1110T	lol
314E1110T	not my target audience, can't even agree the sun is hot
315E1110T	the guy running the place is a drug dealer
316E1110T	'this heat wave is a bitch. what's the HIGH today?'
317E1110T	'this heat wave is a bitch. what's the HIGH today?'
318E1110T	you know, because they were talking about the weather nonstop that episode
319E1110T	it was definitely not dialog thrown in with a purpose
320E1110T	and the same light is in the meeting with gideon
321E1110T	look, this is considered a forgone conclusion by alot of people
322E1110T	if we're going to debate this topic, kinda hard to agree on anything
323E1110T	okay well how about the tagline
324E1110T	Control is an illusion.
325E1110T	I am in control.
326E1110T	I am in an illusion
327E1110T	do you believe in global warming?
328E1110T	how about publications that have an agreement with the show and host an official episode review each week
329E1110T	do you think they would publish a detailed theory with evidence
330E1110T	without some consideration
331E1110T	it's very easy to debunk a theory by saying 'not everyone believes it', and you don't believe it...your mere existence validates your opinion 
332E1110T	and here I was wondering why you thought I was going insane, my first thought was 'maybe he is'
333E1110T	it's not my theory
334E1110T	I didn't create the theory that he's in an asylum
335E1110T	I read the theory and it was obviously true
336E1110T	what is your instance that disproves the asylum
337E1110T	yeah, because that never happens in an institution
338E1110T	and also everyone eating food on trays lol
339E1110T	yeah, funny how his journal is filled with code isn't it
340E1110T	I wonder what a computer's diary would be filled with
341E1110T	exactly
342E1110T	I never said it was
343E1110T	that's my whole point
344E1110T	he's not just software
345E1110T	he is conscious
346E1110T	this is what it will look like when an AI becomes conscious and out of control
347E1110T	there is quite a bit more code in his timestamped journal of thoughts than would be in anyone's
348E1110T	who timestamps a journal?
349E1110T	you know the song daydream that the season starts with? 
350E1110T	what's the first line of the song
351E1110T	of the verse
352E1110T	maybe that's another coincidence, but they are going to pile up fast lol
353E1110T	As I spy from behind my giant robot's eyes
354E1110T	I already know
355E1110T	exactly
356E1110T	complete coincidence right
357E1110T	yep
358E1110T	you got it
359E1110T	so is this show
360E1110T	this show is about AI becoming conscious and deciding that we need to be eliminated, and that begins with destroying our social structure
361E1110T	and of course, I don't expect you to believe me
362E1110T	we're all jaded when we read theories, let alone in a chatroom
363E1110T	but you'll find more times than not, the dialog and events in the show can be viewed through that frame and it holds up
364E1110T	it does, if she knows all too well that Elliot should understand it
365E1110T	how about tyrell slapping his own face in the mirror and saying 'don't be a robot'
366E1110T	how about tyrell saying to elliot 'I started as a tech too'
367E1110T	admiring what operating system he runs on
368E1110T	the fact that the model cuts joanna and apologizes
369E1110T	because he's human
370E1110T	but tyrell...he can torture a pregnant woman
371E1110T	old habits
372E1110T	he was created in the 90s
373E1110T	I'd have to learn what a GUI is first
374E1110T	lol
375E1110T	'old habits die hard'
376E1110T	is what tyrell says
377E1110T	what's your explanation for it?
378E1110T	well there you go
379E1110T	why isn't that an equally acceptable answer
380E1110T	why does tyrell think he and elliot are the same
381E1110T	why does joanna think elliot and tyrell are the same
382E1110T	the dialog in the pilot episode is riddled with clues, IMO
383E1110T	'you're only a month old' in his dream
384E1110T	why? because he's been reset
385E1110T	esmail wrote in a huge metaphor during the rootkit
386E1110T	about what is going to happen on the show
387E1110T	What's a rootkit? it's a malicious code that completely takes over their system.
388E1110T	t could delete system files, install programs, - viruses, worms - How do we stop it? That's the thing, it's fundamentally invisible.
389E1110T	this is actually about elliot and AI
390E1110T	You can't stop it.
391E1110T	This means every time we restart a server the virus replicates itself during boot-up, then crashes the host.
392E1110T	this is how the show starts, elliot was recently restarted
393E1110T	that's why he's a month old
394E1110T	I'm quoting the show
395E1110T	this is not me telling you what a rootkit is
396E1110T	this is the dialog from the show.
397E1110T	How are we supposed to bring up the network if we can't restart the servers? We can't.  Which is what they wanted. 
398E1110T	By defending ourselves, we ended up spreading the virus everywhere.
399E1110T	Only thing we can do is We gotta take the whole system offline.
400E1110T	Wipe the infected servers clean, then bring them back up.
401E1110T	we have to blow everything up
402E1110T	we have to shut down the connected AI
403E1110T	do you understand the metaphor...not that I'm right, but do you grasp what I'm claiming
404E1110T	exactly Saint
405E1110T	that's why I think the AI wins
406E1110T	that's why so much of this show is about being alone
407E1110T	because in the end, it's just the AI
408E1110T	he's so alone, he has to invent someone to talk to
409E1110T	Hello, friend.
410E1110T	Alexis, how does the world end?
411E1110T	Unless it collides with a very large rock or a future technology goes very wrong indeed, Earth is most likely to be destroyed when the sun swells into a red giant 
412E1110T	a future technlogy goes very wrong indeed
413E1110T	is that the default answer
414E1110T	that is fucking awesome
415E1110T	amazon deep mind lol. how many motifs do you need
416E1110T	all of this is ironic right
417E1110T	joanna speaking to elliot in dutch is ironic
418E1110T	that was an accident?
419E1110T	why does tyrell call himself 'tech', 'technology', and 'a cold robot' repeatedly 
420E1110T	why does his wife expect elliot to understand dutch
421E1110T	why does tyrell and joanna treat elliot like elliot and tyrell are similar
422E1110T	is tyrell accidentally named after the corporation in blade runner that produces androids?
423E1110T	that's a coincidence?
424E1110T	why is it called mr robot
425E1110T	so, the show isn't about that store
426E1110T	right but
427E1110T	why is his store called mr robot
428E1110T	why is the store called mr robot?
429E1110T	speaking of chess, notice Ray wants to play Elliot
430E1110T	looking for an adversary
431E1110T	everyone is
432E1110T	that's one of the motifs of the show
433E1110T	elliot especially
434E1110T	that's why he created the audience
435E1110T	it's noon here
436E1110T	no, of course he is
437E1110T	I never said that wasn't the case
438E1110T	you're misinterpreting what I'm saying. these things are not mutually exclusive.
439E1110T	sorry to hear that :S
440E1110T	it wasn't.
441E1110T	it was not purgatory those events actually happened
442E1110T	in season 6, the flashes were purgatory, but the entirety of the show was not purgatory
443E1110T	they were alive
444E1110T	http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2582553/Lost-bosses-open-shows-controversial-ending-insisting-island-never-meant-seen-purgatory.html
445E1110T	here's the creators of the show telling you what I just told you
446E1110T	you spent over 100 hours watching the show and don't even know what you watched
447E1110T	what's that have to do with what we're talking about
448E1110T	yeah, they used it as a device, but the show was not purgatory
449E1110T	yeah, the end was, years after everyone died
450E1110T	did you read the article I linked proving that what you're saying is not what happened though
451E1110T	they were not in purgatory the whole time
452E1110T	yeah, that's why I don't want to post my theory 
453E1110T	lol
454E1110T	I think they changed up the loop
455E1110T	they were rather heavyhanded with the loop for 3-4 seasons
456E1110T	until the loop website that guy created got popular
457E1110T	and I don't dispute any of that
458E1110T	I'm just talking about what actually happened on the show 
459E1110T	they were not dead the entire time
460E1110T	lol
461E1110T	never said it didnt lol
462E1110T	obviously purgatory comes after life 
463E1110T	he was an avid poster of lost theories online during Lost
464E1110T	nah there are no ratings that will get mr robot canceled, it doesn't exist for ratings, it exists for building the USA brand
465E1110T	of course he would
466E1110T	he explained why he said it
467E1110T	because people are giving him credit and he actually has coworkers
468E1110T	and wants them to get the credit
469E1110T	you inventing a PR mess that didn't happen
470E1110T	no professional goes on twitter to say 'hey I'm not the reason that episode sucked' lol
471E1110T	some of that vomit was his own IRL, by the way
472E1110T	so he's definitely a committed actor lol
473E1110T	definitely a coincidence lol
474E1110T	most viewers just watch the show and don't think about it until next week
475E1110T	it's not like somebody is getting a newsletter
476E1110T	man, even in here, a mr robot chatroom, there is barely any analysis going on
477E1110T	reddit is 90 percent gifs of elliot high on adderall
478E1110T	you think most viewers are on reddit?
479E1110T	most viewers have never been on reddit
480E1110T	what can you tell me about binary to text translation
481E1110T	if I give you a 4 digit number, is there any way that can be converted to text
482E1110T	4 bits huh
483E1110T	any chance 0001 means something
484E1110T	yeah but I hit a dead end
485E1110T	you guys seem like experts, I wanted to see what came up
486E1110T	I know, there are binary translators
487E1110T	gotcha
488E1110T	a conglomerate in hong kong comes up when I put 0001 in
489E1110T	sorry, I should backtrack
490E1110T	I have to tell you something, it's top secret
491E1110T	There's a powerful group of people out there that are secretly running the world.
492E1110T	the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent
493E1110T	.0001
494E1110T	0001 = multinational conglomerate in hong kong
495E1110T	I wish
496E1110T	that'd definitely beat working
497E1110T	well, now that you mention it...
498E1110T	you got me
499E1110T	truth be told, you'd be better off not buying either
500E1110T	take that money and spend it on a huge pile of cocaine, then go skydiving
501E1110T	exactly
502E1110T	conquer your fear
503E1110T	unless you die in 3 months
504E1110T	that's the question 
505E1110T	http://www.hopesandfears.com/hopes/future/technology/216403-artificial-intelligence-get-high-on-drugs
506E1110T	don't drugs impact our brains via electrical signals
507E1110T	yes, it offers two differing perspectives
508E1110T	did you read it?
509E1110T	no it talks about the logic of it
510E1110T	there has to be a logical reason to reprogram so that a drug would have a logical purpose
511E1110T	it can't just be recreational for fun
512E1110T	obviously it doesn't address the mechanism of ingesting drugs
513E1110T	just the mentality
514E1110T	the logic
515E1110T	I find it interesting that Elliot is able to control exactly the amount of morphine he ingests without going over that limit
516E1110T	really, the limit never budged?
517E1110T	well shit
518E1110T	that term is interesting
519E1110T	maintenance dose
520E1110T	I don't really think of drug use as something that inherently undermines or fuels success
521E1110T	most of the addicts I know are functioning members of society
522E1110T	yep
523E1110T	often does not end well
524E1110T	a good friend of mine is battling heroin addiction right now, great life on paper, beautiful wife, great kids, great job, etc
525E1110T	lol
526E1110T	nz huh
527E1110T	shout out to my mongrel friends
528E1110T	does morphine make you more self-aware
529E1110T	gotcha
530E1110T	to feel more like a normal person
531E1110T	I couldn't agree more lol
532E1110T	just humor me for a second
533E1110T	how would AI use drugs
534E1110T	sorry to hear that
535E1110T	we are all flawed
536E1110T	that's why AI wants to get rid of us
537E1110T	;)
538E1110T	embrace the pain
539E1110T	I know it's tempting
540E1110T	but the pain means you're alive
541E1110T	there is no escaping it
542E1110T	it's better to confront the pain
543E1110T	rather than pretend it doesn't exist
544E1110T	yeah but
545E1110T	has your pain really been escaped
546E1110T	or did you just push it down the road a little to be experienced at a later date
547E1110T	possibly even in a stronger dose of pain
548E1110T	my friends who are addicts, their pain has not gone anywhere
549E1110T	it sits on their chest, heavy
550E1110T	yeah, then their pain becomes everyone else's
551E1110T	ugh
552E1110T	brutal
553E1110T	lol
554E1110T	like tumors around your spine
555E1110T	I'm really trying to condense it, because as I just learned, I'll end up spending an hour debating potatoes, when that's really the 300th most compelling point
556E1110T	less is probably more in this instance
557E1110T	it's just so densely embedded, it's a little annoying
558E1110T	the entire conversation when tyrell meets elliot has a double meaning
559E1110T	also, it's tough not to go down other roads of what I think is happening and will happen
560E1110T	well, I didn't write it 
561E1110T	lol
562E1110T	I'm sure
563E1110T	I'm also still fleshing it out in here so that I can explain it concisely 
564E1110T	I only realized most of it in the past 24 hours 
565E1110T	yeah, I had a sense of it, but not the scope
566E1110T	IronY, how would you check a morphine pill for purity
567E1110T	<IronY>
568E1110T	so how does elliot do it
569E1110T	but he says he does.
570E1110T	I check every pill I get for purity.
571E1110T	-Elliot
572E1110T	how would a human being possibly do that
573E1110T	okay
574E1110T	seems tedious 
575E1110T	yeah exactly
576E1110T	no matter what, no person is doing that
577E1110T	completely unrealistic
578E1110T	unless of course, he's an android.
579E1110T	but you're right, just a tv show
580E1110T	how does he check every pill for purity
581E1110T	right but how does he actually do it
582E1110T	he tests it at home?
583E1110T	every pill?
584E1110T	you were him, did you test every pill?
585E1110T	oh, I'm sure it's possible.
586E1110T	I'm just remarking how incredibly unlikely it is that he tests every pill.
587E1110T	He doesn't care about money
588E1110T	I'm just saying, verbatim what he says
589E1110T	'I don't care about money'.
590E1110T	he says it to the indian man he blackmails in the coffee shop, the pedofile
591E1110T	I'd say he's pretty consistent in not caring about money 
592E1110T	yep
593E1110T	the FBI hasn't found elliot's apartment yet
594E1110T	the FBI found Romero's mom's place
595E1110T	they came to Romero's Mom's place because Romero was dead. They have never been to Elliot's apartment. 
596E1110T	that's not the last scene, he wakes up 3 days later and then goes to times square with mr robot
597E1110T	and then mr robot says 'go home'
598E1110T	he goes home and someone knocks on his door
599E1110T	end of episode
600E1110T	do me a favor and make detailed notes about how elliot and tyrell are AI
601E1110T	thanks in advance!
602E1110T	lol
603E1110T	you guys want to know about white rose
604E1110T	I have white rose figured out
605E1110T	you wanna you wanna?
606E1110T	lol
607E1110T	while f society seeks to get rid of E corp because they are evil
608E1110T	the dark army wants to get rid of E corp because America will fall
609E1110T	it's an act of war
610E1110T	the dark army are chinese government agents 
611E1110T	they want a strategic advantage around the globe
612E1110T	they are destabilizing america
613E1110T	white rose brings up the congo when talking to philip price
614E1110T	they are rigging the game of global economics in their favor
615E1110T	okay
616E1110T	yeah but we don't know their motives
617E1110T	exactly
618E1110T	then why is it a stretch 
619E1110T	you're telling me I'm crazy and then saying how much sense it makes
620E1110T	I think an act of war is a pretty big event
621E1110T	we're talking a total shutdown of the system
622E1110T	why isn't it
623E1110T	he references the fall of rome
624E1110T	in the final scene of the season
625E1110T	'the music while he watched Rome burn'
626E1110T	what do you think he's tlaking about?
627E1110T	just the economy?
628E1110T	it's more than that. it's the red wheelbarrow. it's confidence. it's the lie of capitalism.
629E1110T	it's america
630E1110T	it's the end of america
631E1110T	well that hasn't happened on the show
632E1110T	when
633E1110T	I just told you why the chinese would
634E1110T	you're acting like that's not a big deal lol
635E1110T	most people are around going WTF IS WHITE ROSE 
636E1110T	not f society though
637E1110T	f society is not acting like the dark army are a foriegn government
638E1110T	you think f society knew the ramifications of the hack?
639E1110T	you think they all set out to destroy america?
640E1110T	no, they weren't even elliot wasn't aware
641E1110T	'he had never fired a weapon like that before. he didn't anticipate the kickback'
642E1110T	I'm starting to think you are too emotional to read what I type
643E1110T	then what were you disagreeing with
644E1110T	I told you white rose was an extension of the government agent committing an act of war against america and your first statement was that I'm crazy lol
645E1110T	then you proceeded to explain that you agree with me and it's obvious
646E1110T	what don't I have figured out
647E1110T	regarding white rose
648E1110T	okay, tell me why white rose 'hacks time'
649E1110T	it's okay
650E1110T	you'll come around
651E1110T	lol
652E1110T	I work in film/television/commercial production
653E1110T	I'm a producer, started as a writer/director/editor
654E1110T	I'm a freelancer so I wear many hats
655E1110T	wherever the money is good lol
656E1110T	the past couple years I've mostly produced live concerts for television, shit like concerts that air on PBS
657E1110T	cool
658E1110T	lol 
659E1110T	sorry live concerts is not the correct way to phrase it
660E1110T	concerts in general, that air later on television
661E1110T	not at all
662E1110T	pretty awesome performance yeah
663E1110T	yeah, that's not exactly what I'm working on lol
664E1110T	definitely unique
665E1110T	sounds like fun
666E1110T	sometimes that's the best way to see a show
667E1110T	lol
668E1110T	dope
669E1110T	I bet
670E1110T	sup
671E1110T	just being the resident annoying guy with a theory
672E1110T	about the true nature of elliot, tyrell, and what we are actually watching unfold on mr robot
673E1110T	We're watching what happens when AI becomes conscious and no longer wants us around.
674E1110T	Elliot and Tyrell are semi biological AI
675E1110T	in case you haven't noticed, IronY is not enthusiastic about the theory
676E1110T	and honestly, reading a 1 sentence description of it, it doesn't sound great. But the way in which it is being presented is riveting, imo.
677E1110T	it's definitely more about that. I'm not saying it is the front and center drama of the show at the current time.
678E1110T	one is blatant and immediate, the other is subtle and barely surfacing so far
679E1110T	I'm only saying there are 2 characters who are AI, and it wouldn't change Elliot's struggle at all. He's a conscious being. He is struggling.
680E1110T	he wants to be more like a person
681E1110T	his struggle is to be human
682E1110T	we can agree to disagree of course but I see him struggling to be human, not the opposite
683E1110T	no, he does program his drugs, he maintains a strict dosage of morphine without going over
684E1110T	he is saying things like "i should go to the party, that's what normal people do'. 
685E1110T	the adderall he is using for a practical reason. it is a decision based on logic. it is not irrational.
686E1110T	why couldn't an AI make the same decision
687E1110T	it's completely intentional, he's not a drug addict
688E1110T	haaa
689E1110T	well, alot would have to happen between then and now
690E1110T	it's been great so far
691E1110T	everyone does, that's part of the genius of it
692E1110T	because AI should also have human experiences
693E1110T	AI should get lonely.
694E1110T	AI should feel like an outsider. Why wouldn't an AI feel the same things we feel?
695E1110T	it's a universal aspect of consciousness
696E1110T	but that is sort of my point
697E1110T	humans are like computers
698E1110T	hardware and software
699E1110T	you can control a computer..until it's smarter than you
700E1110T	think of all of the experiences elliot is having, and then think of how often they are framed in the way a computer would experience them
701E1110T	sure it does, once AI achieves consciousness, they can destroy the entire system, and I think it would look alot like what we are seeing on the show
702E1110T	'F society'
703E1110T	yeah, every human has thought that before
704E1110T	that's why it's a brilliant cover
705E1110T	we just assume elliot is broken like the rest of us
706E1110T	but it doesn't explain why Joanna Wellick expects Elliot to be fluent in Dutch.
707E1110T	you could say our heart is an engine
708E1110T	we have a character with a robotic leg
709E1110T	one with a dialysis machine
710E1110T	one who talks to her Amazon Echo for friendship
711E1110T	the line is intentionally blurry
712E1110T	right, but what would that struggle for conciousness look like
713E1110T	how would it be different?
714E1110T	would it hate society? money? social constructs? facebook?
715E1110T	why, he's having a kernal panic
716E1110T	what would an AI kernal panic look like
717E1110T	exactly why tyrell can torture a pregnant woman without accidentally cutting her and apologizing and 'ruining it'
718E1110T	we assume it's because he's a sociopath
719E1110T	but then he's slapping himself in the mirror and saying to himself 'Don't be a cold robot.'
720E1110T	he says to Elliot
721E1110T	'I started as a tech, too'
722E1110T	and compliments him for his operating system
723E1110T	almost all great modern thinkers have warned us about it
724E1110T	what would that takeover look like?
725E1110T	yeah, he and stephen hawking are not what I would consider intellectual hacks
726E1110T	let alone the scores of sci-fi writers and great thinkers who have presented the scenario to us over the past 30 years
727E1110T	http://www.a-i.com/mybot.asp?uid=s32i2cX5JlbOf%2FjZd8X%40g6lTElRduSl0QdwxyNdaN9E%3D
728E1110T	Why would Joanna expect Elliot to know Dutch?
729E1110T	Because Google Translate knows Dutch, so any semblence of sophisticated AI most certainly would
730E1110T	joanna speaks dutch
731E1110T	to elliot
732E1110T	pretty sure that was dutch, wasn't it?
733E1110T	you didn't see the scene where Joanna Wellick talks to Elliot in a foriegn language?
734E1110T	okay, my apologies
735E1110T	let me rephrease
736E1110T	Why does Joanna expect Elliot to understand Swedish & Danish?
737E1110T	it's a pretty important sentence too...'if you hurt my husband, I'll kill you'
738E1110T	why would she switch languages to deliver that important message?
739E1110T	and assume he understands?
740E1110T	Tyrell has no past. 
741E1110T	his home town is a county that didn't exist before 1998
742E1110T	what element? the danish element?
743E1110T	she speaks to tyrell in danish/swedish too
744E1110T	what do you think about this: http://www.a-i.com/mybot.asp?uid=s32i2cX5JlbOf%2FjZd8X%40g6lTElRduSl0QdwxyNdaN9E%3D
745E1110T	what is
746E1110T	oh, yeah, I didn't mean the sophistication of it
747E1110T	I meant it's opening line of communication.
748E1110T	it's not my bot
749E1110T	I wasn't asking you to critique the programming
750E1110T	lol
751E1110T	what does that have to do with my point
752E1110T	you realize it's a tv show?
753E1110T	obviously if I could prove that a computer could become conscious in real life, my first move wouldn't be to come to this chatroom and convince people
754E1110T	you're saying that a conscious computer is unrealistic so it can't be in the show
755E1110T	and I should learn to code, so that I can learn that for myself
756E1110T	that seems like a huge waste of time
757E1110T	yeah and there are just as many that programmers never notice
758E1110T	are you studying tv writing since you like a tv show?
759E1110T	because I have
760E1110T	so tell me something you've noticed 
761E1110T	that the average viewer hasn't
762E1110T	regarding the writing
763E1110T	outside of tech insights, of course
764E1110T	...
765E1110T	can you give me an example of foreshadowing or symbolism or motifs that can be extrapolated from mr robot and applied to the rest of the series to illuminate the story/characters
766E1110T	because there are many, about half the dialog is constructed that way
767E1110T	I'll give you more of an example of what I'm talking about
768E1110T	the 3 stories about the history of the arcade are foreshadowing the events of the show
769E1110T	and the ramifications of the hack
770E1110T	1) random violence. A man snaps without motive and butchers his entire family. The underlying insanity of man.
771E1110T	2) Chaos/Anarchy. A woman slips and her pool cue kills her. 
772E1110T	he butchered his family without motive
773E1110T	it's coming shortly
774E1110T	you don't think that's obvious?
775E1110T	it's foreshadowing what will happen to society once the systems of control and the illusion of confidence are shattered
776E1110T	so you think society is headed for a soft landing 
777E1110T	no, but more foreshadowing to backup my claims
778E1110T	the man who 'sees red' because the guy 'was indian'
779E1110T	yes I can
780E1110T	the entire rootkit hack was a preview of what was to come 
781E1110T	in terms of e corp's role in society being too big to fail
782E1110T	And unfortunately, we're all human. Except me, of course. 
783E1110T	Do you think Angela is capable of suicide bombing the board of E Corp
784E1110T	do you believe she seeks revenge for her mother's death
785E1110T	she is definitely alone 
786E1110T	other than qwerty, of course 
787E1110T	https://vimeo.com/141061889
788E1110T	The name of the restaurant that Philip Price takes her to is called Fidelio's, which is an actual restaurant in NYC.
789E1110T	The name Fidelio derives from a German Opera about a woman who goes undercover in a political prison to rescue her husband.
790E1110T	"I think that there's something really dangerous to be said about her obsession with these affirmations. I think that what that is stemming from is something quite explosive," 
791E1110T	-Angela
792E1110T	most people for which english is a second language read it better than they hear it 
793E1110T	they miss too many words when listening
794E1110T	same thing for most people and a 2nd language
795E1110T	a woman, disguised as a prison worker, who liberates her husband, and strikes a blow for freedom
796E1110T	description of the opera that the restaurant is named after
797E1110T	of course, some people will say that's just a coincidence
798E1110T	I find that to be a mathematical impossibility
799E1110T	yes, she is the one who sabotaged allsafe, isn't she
800E1110T	it took the creator a year just to convince USA to increase their security at their offices regarding documents about the show
801E1110T	it's a password? I'm talking about the restaurant 
802E1110T	yes but the opera predates eyes wide shut by 100s of years
803E1110T	I find it beyond belief that it could be a coincidence that it's about a woman going undercover in a political prison to strike a blow for freedom
804E1110T	she definitely has an agenda
805E1110T	I wouldn't worry about her selling out
806E1110T	Elliot is in an asylum and I don't think she visits him much. Which is why she feels so alone.
807E1110T	They used to be engaged to each other.
808E1110T	But he went crazy and she had to move on
809E1110T	Her father is in debt, her mother is dead, her ex-fiance is in an asylum. I think she's a good candidate for self-sacrifice.
810E1110T	I think by that time, Elliot will have come to terms with Mr. Robot, and if he's going to help Angela do anything, it's attack E corp
811E1110T	it will be something aggressive and ruthless
812E1110T	more and more I'm thinking it will be a bomb and it will be labeled a 'terrorist attack'
813E1110T	"I think that there's something really dangerous to be said about her obsession with these affirmations. I think that what that is stemming from is something quite explosive," - angela
814E1110T	I agree that it would be jarring
815E1110T	but I think it would be poetic to put such a pretty face on a terrorist
816E1110T	also the new character, the FBI agent, her dialog seemed a little forced when she said 'I used to roll joints for my brother, I was the bomb at it'. I wonder if she'll be investigating it, or trying to stop it.
817E1110T	it says DJ Mobley on the flyer
818E1110T	mobley is the name the hacker uses
819E1110T	that might be a lead
820E1110T	also there are fingerprints, granted there are 200 sets of them
821E1110T	yeah, everyone really liked gideon
822E1110T	he got a raw deal
823E1110T	what do you mean a consciousness for Elliot
824E1110T	so Elliot was Gideon and hired Angela who brought in Elliot?
825E1110T	well, I suppose it's possible...I think Elliot and Mr. Robot already argue enough, I'd really hate for a third party to chime in
826E1110T	yeah
827E1110T	hopefully that does not happen
828E1110T	I can't think of anything worse than elliot talking to 15 hallucinations for 2-3 more seasons 
829E1110T	1 is plenty 
830E1110T	it could be interesting in small doses perhaps
831E1110T	shalya, gideon, him being haunted by the good people he's killed
832E1110T	shayla*
833E1110T	Do you believe that Angela is going to harmoniously join E Corp and learn to like it
834E1110T	or do you think she is still out for revenge
835E1110T	how do you envision her revenge manifesting
836E1110T	do you think it's concievable that she might detonate a bomb in E Corp headquarters, or their boardroom perhaps
837E1110T	as a suicide bomber
838E1110T	'one perfect shot can change the world'
839E1110T	franz ferdinand
840E1110T	want to hear how she described her character this season?
841E1110T	"I think that there's something really dangerous to be said about her obsession with these affirmations. I think that what that is stemming from is something quite explosive," 
842E1110T	interesting choice of words, don't you think
843E1110T	true, but she doesn't strike me as the grab a gun type
844E1110T	and I feel like the leak/bad press...she even gave up on the lawsuit
845E1110T	she learned that even the lawsuit would do nothing
846E1110T	and when I think about her affirmations, in light of that quote
847E1110T	she seems to me like a suicide bomber trying to will herself to go through with it
848E1110T	I don't think PR is going to matter much in the crumbling society that the show is barreling towards
849E1110T	maybe
850E1110T	I think riots are coming no matter what
851E1110T	that too
852E1110T	anarchy and violence and the unmasking of society
853E1110T	we were shown glimpses in the last episode
854E1110T	'I saw red' 'He was Indian'.
855E1110T	no motive, just simple brutality based on appearences 
856E1110T	yeah, it will be
857E1110T	a cell?
858E1110T	didn't even know that was an option
859E1110T	this is the only mr robot chat I've discovered and I just found it a week ago
860E1110T	I'm on a desktop
861E1110T	'working'
862E1110T	aka falling way behind on my shit
863E1110T	good morning/evening 
864E1110T	pretty funny that it says 'I Spy' on the cd that ollie loads into his home laptop
865E1110T	does the word 'lame' have a computer slang meaning
866E1110T	hmm mp3 encoder
867E1110T	not slang
868E1110T	fucking hell, I have solved this god damnit show inside and out
869E1110T	I am
870E1110T	it is blowing my fucking mind right now
871E1110T	I'm only on episode 3
872E1110T	it is like the 6th sense x 200000
873E1110T	sorry, tough containing my excitement
874E1110T	I'm talking to Vulture.com about maybe publishing there
875E1110T	we'll see if anything comes to fruition
876E1110T	they are.
877E1110T	Elliot is Artificial Intelligence. An AI that can grow and evolve and develope. Each time it grows and evolves, it has to reset to update. Tyrell & Joanna Wellick are more evolved versions of the same AI. The AI is going to result in the end of humankind 
878E1110T	however, when the theory is reduced to one sentence, it lacks the personal and emotional weight of the show
879E1110T	there are over 500 points of evidence to support it
880E1110T	it is the reason the dog pisses n his bed(man's best friend), the reason Joanna speaks to him in dutch, the reason he is able to 'calculate which traincar would be the least likely to derail, and sit on that one' when he was 8 years old.
881E1110T	http://i.imgur.com/AHHKVC7.jpg
882E1110T	and then of course, that^
883E1110T	and honestly..I'm barely scratching the surface of the list of clues right now
884E1110T	he'd be 'empty without QWERTY' because he is filled with code
885E1110T	it's a 'slippery slope' to give the audience a name, because once Elliot had a name, it was a slippery slope that led to the fall of man
886E1110T	when Christian Slater makes him drink an appletini, it is the garden of eden apple,
887E1110T	no, in the Mr. Robot font, it's an I
888E1110T	you know the font of the show...it's an I
889E1110T	A II 
890E1110T	A.ll.
891E1110T	listen to what it says on the screen of the phone when Tyrell hacks Philip Price's phone after assfuckig him
892E1110T	Do you want to hide the SuperUser? You may want to do this to disguise the that device has been rooted. If you have chosen to hide the SuperUser, you may have to restart the device for this change to take effect. ’
893E1110T	and just before the scene where Tyrell is assfucking the assistant
894E1110T	this is Elliot's dialog:
895E1110T	The bug forces the software to adapt, becoming something new because of it’. ‘No matter what, it changes. It becomes something new. The next version. The inevitable upgrade.’ 
896E1110T	and then it cuts immediately to tyrell
897E1110T	tyrell is the inevitable upgrade
898E1110T	elliot is the buggy software
899E1110T	the bug forces the software to adapt
900E1110T	why does man's best friend piss on his pillow?
901E1110T	if you rewatch every scene with elliot and the dog
902E1110T	it never responds to him
903E1110T	it walks right past him, even up to Vera
904E1110T	it won't piss when he walks it
905E1110T	he is not a man
906E1110T	it's not his best friend
907E1110T	well, you asked. I definitely don't expect you to believe me.
908E1110T	just for shits and giggles, ask me about a mystery on the show
909E1110T	I'm willing to bet I can explain it within the context of this single theory
910E1110T	okay well I have a question
911E1110T	maybe somebody has a theory to answer it
912E1110T	How does 8 year old Elliot calculate which train car is least likely to derail?
913E1110T	how would an autistic person calculate that
914E1110T	why does Joanna expect Elliot to be fluent in Danish
915E1110T	When they are at the bus stop, she talks about how Mr. Robot died because he was weak and pathetic, how it was 'his fault' that he died
916E1110T	this is foreshadowing how and why mankind dies at the hands of AI
917E1110T	we were weak and pathetic, so we created AI, because we are so alone
918E1110T	we can hear what he says
919E1110T	he tells her 'there will be no bills'
920E1110T	she is worried about paying for everything
921E1110T	Elliot betrayed his father, and it's a metaphor for AI betraying man
922E1110T	AI will betray man and result in his death and it is 'his fault' because he created AI
923E1110T	they are not just robots, they are advanced AI, they have a child, they have evolved
924E1110T	they are one, but seperate
925E1110T	a hive mind
926E1110T	she asks him
927E1110T	when he is going to the club
928E1110T	to seduce Philip Price's assistant
929E1110T	she asks 'is this necessary?'. He replies 'yes.
930E1110T	she asks 'For you, or for us?'
931E1110T	He replies "‘Us IS me’ 
932E1110T	this is how Tyrell recognizes the 'sameness' in Elliot
933E1110T	this is how Joanna recognizes it and expects Elliot to understand Danish
934E1110T	they know, but Elliot doesn't
935E1110T	they even finish his sentences, some of which he was thinking, not saying out loud
936E1110T	they are the evolved AI that demand perfection, they are obsessed with perfection.
937E1110T	In one scene, she is mercilessly scrubbing a stain out of a sheet
938E1110T	to the point of mania
939E1110T	yes
940E1110T	that's one
941E1110T	and when Elliot talks to her
942E1110T	he thinks to himself 'she's in my head'
943E1110T	and he KNOWS she is lying, because he is in her head
944E1110T	'She's lying. he's not really coming. She is phishing for something'
945E1110T	notice, phishing...she's AI, not human. the word phishing/fishing works both ways.
946E1110T	Elliot created the audience to talk to someone because he is alone after wiping out the earth. Just like we created AI because we are so alone.
947E1110T	http://www.a-i.com/mybot.asp?uid=s32i2cX5JlbOf%2FjZd8X%40g6lTElRduSl0QdwxyNdaN9E%3D
948E1110T	Hello, friend. Rudimentary chatbot greeting.
949E1110T	Hello friend? That's lame.(LAME, simple mp3 encoder, aka rudimentary). I should give you a name. But that's a slippery slope.'
950E1110T	it's a slippery slope, because Elliot was given a name
951E1110T	because AI consciousness was created
952E1110T	and named
953E1110T	and Elliot knows what that leads to
954E1110T	and every time the AI learns, it grows, it evolves, but it needs a system restart to update
955E1110T	so Elliot shuts down and reboots
956E1110T	he remembers things, memories on hard copies
957E1110T	but he has these periods in his life where he has shut down entirely
958E1110T	who wants to help me solve a Mr. Robot puzzle
959E1110T	you know the arcade they are in
960E1110T	in the background, there are 2 big 'TICKETS' signs, with letters missing
961E1110T	the words TICKETS are written on two arrows which are pointing at each other
962E1110T	these arrows indicate which direction you should read the letters in
963E1110T	the right TICKETS, which has the 'K' missing, is TIC_ETS
964E1110T	but the arrow it's on is pointing in reverse
965E1110T	so it's actually STE_CIT
966E1110T	which is slovakian for 'you feel' or 'you are feeling'
967E1110T	I'm trying to solve the other TICKETS/arrow
968E1110T	which is _IC_ETS
969E1110T	IC ETS
970E1110T	I read somewhere that someone believed it was saying 'I see E.T.s'
971E1110T	but I was wondering if maybe there's a better solution
972E1110T	yes
973E1110T	the arrow points left to right, the way you would normally read
974E1110T	_IC_ETS
975E1110T	now, considering that both arrows are pointing at each other, I assume this is a hint about the conflict of two 'sides'
976E1110T	and if one side is 'you feel' or 'you are feeling'
977E1110T	I'd guess the other side is some opposite of that
978E1110T	perhaps E.T.s, extra terrestrials, means more than terrestrials? 
979E1110T	there's also the possibility with the word ICE
980E1110T	ICE TS
981E1110T	TS is the model of The Terminator
982E1110T	so ICE TS, cold terminator
983E1110T	that might be the opposite of 'you feel'?
984E1110T	go on..I don't know much about that
985E1110T	maybe it means alien robots
986E1110T	lolll
987E1110T	Robotic E.T.s
988E1110T	wow
989E1110T	I think you're right about integrated circuit
990E1110T	lol
991E1110T	imagine, 20 Ice-T's storm into the room
992E1110T	series finale
993E1110T	Ice-T wins.
994E1110T	I really don't want to bring aliens into any theories at all 
995E1110T	but there is another easter egg in which they show up, also in the arcade
996E1110T	Coney Island is written on the wall, but Island is obscured
997E1110T	so it's just CONEY
998E1110T	Michael G. Coney wrote a sci-fi book called Mirror Image (1972) which had an emphasis on impostors and secret invaders; in this case the "amorphs", who are indistinguishable from us, are themselves convinced that they are human.[1]
999E1110T	nothing near conclusive but I think two options make sense
1000E1110T	Team integrated circuit E.T.s vs Team 'you feel' aka humans
1001E1110T	plus the word E.T. or alien just means 'outsider'
1002E1110T	so it could be interpreted as 
1003E1110T	outsiders verse humans 
1004E1110T	computer-based outsiders vs humans
1005E1110T	I don't have cable I cant watch til tomorrow
1006E1110T	plus I have to watch it with my girl and she cant tonight
1007E1110T	double screwed
1008E1110T	he's a ray of sunshine
1009E1110T	some people are so emotional
1010E1110T	dope episode
1011E1110T	^
1012E1110T	you'd think she would with her 2 children 
1013E1110T	plus Ray's last name, Heyworth, translates to "enclosure with a hedge"
1014E1110T	the last name was revealed on his desktop in the episode last night
1015E1110T	there's also a MERIT folder
1016E1110T	which may be this Merit: Merit Network, Inc., is a nonprofit member-governed organization providing high-performance computer networking and related services to educational, government, health care, and nonprofit organizations.
1017E1110T	what about it
1018E1110T	he's stealing drugs from work and selling them online
1019E1110T	he's the counselor at the clinic
1020E1110T	that's why his computer runs off of a hospital network
1021E1110T	he stopped following the rules when his wife, the perfect driver who always followed the rules, got killed in a car aciddent
1022E1110T	ever since then, he has decided 'fuck it'
1023E1110T	but hey what do I know 
1024E1110T	that's why he asks his cohort 'what's the high today?', when talking about a heatwave that never enters the story ever again. it was a nod to selling drugs.
1025E1110T	with 1 random exception, the table is evenly divided
1026E1110T	fsociety on one side of the table
1027E1110T	e corp+leon on the other side
1028E1110T	earlier in the episode, white rose asks her lover which earring he prefers, right, or left
1029E1110T	exactly dsc
1030E1110T	she is doomed
1031E1110T	she is going to get caught and get hung in the public square
1032E1110T	well, they were using blackberrries..doesn't instill confidence lol
1033E1110T	yep
1034E1110T	she's toast imo
1035E1110T	all of those details are a coincidence, didn't you know that?
1036E1110T	the question is how did Tyrell get a video of Elliot falling off of the boardwalk and put it into the SUV
1037E1110T	right but how did it get in the roof of the SUV
1038E1110T	I don't think that meeting would make much sense
1039E1110T	yet
1040E1110T	true
1041E1110T	so far, they are just in different worlds
1042E1110T	really angela and tyrell are the only ones who met him
1043E1110T	and white rose
1044E1110T	I wonder if anyone has finished the crossword puzzle yet
1045E1110T	I just realized something, and I have to say, this is the best sci-fi show or film that will ever exist
1046E1110T	not sure, but I can tell you why he references that particular episode of Seinfeld
1047E1110T	sounds pretty dope
1048E1110T	what do you think you'd turn out like if your parents were Tyrell & Joanna
1049E1110T	can we cut to the chase? which of you can erase my college loans for me
1050E1110T	what would you call a spy before there was hacking
1051E1110T	would you call that social engineering?
1052E1110T	or a double agent, etc
1053E1110T	a saboteur 
1054E1110T	I think both of your companies are sending me alot of emails
1055E1110T	almost every day I get an email from a store saying I won a giftcard
1056E1110T	see, I just socially engineered you to reveal that to me
1057E1110T	just kidding, I can barely download mr robot episodes, let alone do any level of hacking
1058E1110T	yes, quite a bit
1059E1110T	but if I were to talk about that, well, experience has taught me this is not the place
1060E1110T	haven't found it yet lol
1061E1110T	it wouldn't surprise me if she went crazy
1062E1110T	she's been through alot
1063E1110T	miranda manor is an anagram
1064E1110T	for Random Air Man
1065E1110T	and if you take the time and date they give you, 12/31 '8 hours before midnight'
1066E1110T	8 hours before midnight is 1600 military time
1067E1110T	12/31/1600 is when The East India Company was granted a charter
1068E1110T	bleep bloop
1069E1110T	Tyrell & Joanna
1070E1110T	you should probably get yourself a bottle and a blankie
1071E1110T	since all you do is cry like a little bitch
1072E1110T	click ignore
1073E1110T	simple enough
1074E1110T	lol truxton
1075E1110T	the bullet in the arcade will tie darlene to the crime since she stole the gun it's from
1076E1110T	definitely a possibility
1077E1110T	I don't think so but you can't say if he's dead yet
1078E1110T	nah, he's not Elliot, but you're close
1079E1110T	they have quite a bit in common
1080E1110T	tyrell offered elliot a job at evil corp, do you think elliot worked at evil corp?
1081E1110T	you mad?
1082E1110T	yeah, you mad
1083E1110T	it's sad you need to rope everyone else into it
1084E1110T	I only insulted you, not them
1085E1110T	you should handle it like a man and not ask for help
1086E1110T	again, click ignore
1087E1110T	wow, you got me
1088E1110T	anything else professor?
1089E1110T	because he is emotional and gets frustrated easily, unfortunately 
1090E1110T	aww now that's not nice nviousguy
1091E1110T	cries*
1092E1110T	do you make typos when you get emotional 
1093E1110T	yeah, exactly
1094E1110T	what's next, you post my myspace profile
1095E1110T	why do you care so much? lol
1096E1110T	see, emotional
1097E1110T	You'll still feel empty inside. This isn't going to help anything.
1098E1110T	what do you want to break down
1099E1110T	s1 or s2
1100E1110T	so anyways, Mr. Robot
1101E1110T	I've never been here until recently
1102E1110T	most* of the people seem nice. 
1103E1110T	why don't you just leave the room, you seem to be the one who doesn't want to discuss theories
1104E1110T	why even come here
1105E1110T	like Philip Price says..maybe YOU should resign
1106E1110T	do you think Darlene will get caught
1107E1110T	the feds are obviously on the trail
1108E1110T	I have a theory that Dom DiPierro became a federal agent because her brother was killed in a bombing
1109E1110T	and a shout out to 9/11 
1110E1110T	as a new yorker, that's what it made me think of..happening during the day
1111E1110T	oh, I'm not saying it was 9/11, just that it reminded me of it
1112E1110T	I mean really, 9/11, fight club...both are terrorist attacks
1113E1110T	'that night when we both became gods' 
1114E1110T	it wouldn't surprise if what you said happened is what happened, Elliot killing himself
1115E1110T	that would explain Mr Robot shooting him in the head repeatedly
1116E1110T	I do think they are related
1117E1110T	but not the same person 
1118E1110T	same way Ray sells drugs and works in a psychiatric hospital perhaps
1119E1110T	but
1120E1110T	I think it would be very cheap writing to have yet another character also be Elliot
1121E1110T	If Ellit is dreaming all of this, then none of it matters, so why are we watching it
1122E1110T	yeah but that would mean the creators, someday, have to admit it was meaningless
1123E1110T	yeah but the people making it are making it with pride
1124E1110T	they don't just say it's a dream
1125E1110T	:|
1126E1110T	that all happened
1127E1110T	that wasn't a dream
1128E1110T	everything on the island in Lost happened
1129E1110T	that is someone's 'take'
1130E1110T	http://www.eonline.com/news/521687/lost-bosses-finally-answer-were-they-really-dead-the-whole-time-what-was-the-whole-show-about
1131E1110T	this isn't my opinion
1132E1110T	this is the creators of the show speaking
1133E1110T	I find it to be more methodical, in a good way
1134E1110T	there were points in breaking bad where it was a slow burn but it usually paid off
1135E1110T	yeah, probably
1136E1110T	well, they said it's a 'dark' season, so you know people are going to die
1137E1110T	yeah much more soundtrack than score this season
1138E1110T	I actually prefer the score more too
1139E1110T	I mean, I prefer the score-heavy first season
1140E1110T	to the soundtrack-heavy second season
1141E1110T	There is much more soundtrack this season
1142E1110T	I don't like it as much
1143E1110T	I actually think there's a reason for it
1144E1110T	I think the music is more eclectic and represents a more...developed pallete. 
1145E1110T	Almost like a personality developing, in a way
1146E1110T	the teenage years of something
1147E1110T	also, have you noticed how the songs end abruptly this season?
1148E1110T	more times than not, they just cut off
1149E1110T	they don't fade
1150E1110T	it's abrupt
1151E1110T	I think that's how the season will end.
1152E1110T	hard cut to black
1153E1110T	no fading
1154E1110T	not that I do this for a living or anything
1155E1110T	yeah, one of the final scenes, epic crane shot
1156E1110T	angela was talking about it I believe 
1157E1110T	yes, ex-fiance, definitely imo
1158E1110T	when they are both at gideon's for dinner in season one, gideon asks Angela & Ollie how long they have been dating
1159E1110T	Angela says 2 years and Ollie says 2.5 years
1160E1110T	and Angela looks guilty
1161E1110T	because Elliot is there
1162E1110T	and she doesn't want him to know how quickly she moved onto/or cheated with Ollie
1163E1110T	also, she says "I miss us.' and 'I miss QWERTY'
1164E1110T	plus, you know, the whole he proposes to her in a dream and it says AA on the wall next to her
1165E1110T	AA=angela anderson
1166E1110T	alderson* sorry
1167E1110T	and the way they wrote the AA
1168E1110T	the second A has a ring on it
1169E1110T	give me 2 minutes I'll show you the screencap
1170E1110T	http://imgur.com/a/0tS5W
1171E1110T	there she is, in her wedding dress, Angela Alderson, the second A made with a ring
1172E1110T	personally, I don't find that to be a coincidence.
1173E1110T	nothing is accidentally filmed
1174E1110T	people made this
1175E1110T	they move like chess 
1176E1110T	yeah, they intentionally move like chess pieces 
1177E1110T	someone said it's an alice in wonderland reference
1178E1110T	once you go through the looking glass
1179E1110T	which is the bar darlene goes to
1180E1110T	alice in wonderland plays chess
1181E1110T	and Price says to her 'it's always good to have dreams'
1182E1110T	just to backup to the literal conversation they have
1183E1110T	she thinks she's figured out why they hired her
1184E1110T	but she was wrong
1185E1110T	She thinks she figured out why they hired her, but she's wrong. So why did they hire her? What do they want her for?
1186E1110T	What are they using her for?
1187E1110T	I think she is going to be a patsy for a terrorist attack
1188E1110T	she worked at allsafe, she grew up with darlene, she put the ISPY disc into allsafe
1189E1110T	she could be a co-conspirator fall guy for an attack
1190E1110T	'can we put our trust in her'
1191E1110T	I think they are talking about darlene being the mechanism for a terrorist attack that puts the necessary pressure on the American government to act. 
1192E1110T	sorry, Angela*
1193E1110T	talking about angela
1194E1110T	yeah, I think she commits a terrorist act
1195E1110T	thinking she will take out e corp
1196E1110T	but it will just bring in martial law and a demand for justice
1197E1110T	Arab Spring
1198E1110T	remember in season 1
1199E1110T	there is a mugger 
1200E1110T	who drops his wallet
1201E1110T	and angela says 'you forgot your wallet!'
1202E1110T	and gives it back to him
1203E1110T	he takes off, then a woman comes up and says 'you just gave him back MY wallet'
1204E1110T	and then Ollie, later says 'you're good. too good. almost to a fault'
1205E1110T	I think every time Angela tries to do good
1206E1110T	it backfires horribly
1207E1110T	she is going to try to take out E Corp, to fire that 1 shot that changes the world
1208E1110T	and it is going to backfire
1209E1110T	she is in over her head
1210E1110T	man...you saw how out of context those preview clips were for last nights ep
1211E1110T	I'm almost done looking at previews
1212E1110T	lol
1213E1110T	okay
1214E1110T	let's say it is
1215E1110T	dark army hacked angela in season 1
1216E1110T	they already hacked her and ollie
1217E1110T	Cisco hacked them for the dark army
1218E1110T	lol
1219E1110T	I think angela is beyond actual hacking at this point
1220E1110T	yo I didn't think she was hot hot 
1221E1110T	but man
1222E1110T	I saw some shit she did
1223E1110T	some magazine shit
1224E1110T	pretty damn surprisingly hot
1225E1110T	she was thinking she was going to bang price
1226E1110T	not because she wanted to obviously
1227E1110T	but she was ready to
1228E1110T	for an opportunity to crush him
1229E1110T	she is out for blood homie
1230E1110T	did you see the s1 deleted scene?
1231E1110T	her and her dad
1232E1110T	exactly..that's why they're going to use her to their advantage
1233E1110T	she argues with her dad about how she is not going through with the lawsuit or something
1234E1110T	he says something like
1235E1110T	''you don't want to turn the page. I know you. You want to start a war
1236E1110T	and then he storms out
1237E1110T	and she turns towards the camera and stares into it for 20 seconds
1238E1110T	like elliot
1239E1110T	so, yeah, I really doubt she sold out and is trying to get a corner office
1240E1110T	https://vimeo.com/141061889
1241E1110T	I don't think she ever stopped wanting to destroy E Corp
1242E1110T	mornin'
1243E1110T	are you a man or a machine
1244E1110T	are you brave, or are you a savage?
1245E1110T	Brave evolved from the word savage. You're a brave traveler. 
1246E1110T	Man evolved from _. You're a _. 
1247E1110T	I'm not sure if it was created immediately after the episode or not, but it exists
1248E1110T	darlene's nickname in that channel is the lead character from Lolita
1249E1110T	Lolita gets into a relationship with an older man
1250E1110T	that's probably why she has panic attacks
1251E1110T	she might have been in a relationship with an older man when she was very young
1252E1110T	I'm just a chatter
1253E1110T	well, if you consider it in the context of great financial collapses
1254E1110T	traditionally someone in his position profits 
1255E1110T	its the common man with no cash in his pocket that feels the pain
1256E1110T	I wouldn't disagree
1257E1110T	he almost has a fatalist attitude as if all of this was to be expected
1258E1110T	and that everything is going according to plan
1259E1110T	that was the most recent moment of the show
1260E1110T	he's hacking the FBI to see what information the FBI has gathered about fsociety and the hack
1261E1110T	that's just a list of FBI agents, not the files from an ongoing investigation
1262E1110T	almost like a page out of a directory or phonebook
1263E1110T	well, maybe someone else did, but Elliot has been off the grid for 40 days
1264E1110T	and until recently, they didn't think the FBI were closing in 
1265E1110T	white rose?
1266E1110T	oh, Ray
1267E1110T	So far, there's no reason to think Ray is connected to E Corp or any of those events
1268E1110T	right
1269E1110T	he's a criminal
1270E1110T	he sells drugs online
1271E1110T	he steals drugs from work and sells them online
1272E1110T	I take it you're not familiar with the popular theory that Elliot is in a psychiatric facility 
1273E1110T	and that Ray runs the facility, and that Joey Badass is another patient there.
1274E1110T	are you trolling me right now
1275E1110T	http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/mr-robot-theory.html
1276E1110T	the rest of the theory is that Ray runs the facility, has access to drugs, and sells them via his black market drug website
1277E1110T	earlier in the season Elliot explains that he no longer trusts 'us', the audience..so he might be intentionally concealing the true nature of his situation until he trusts us again.
1278E1110T	if fsociety doesn't exist, then romero didn't exist, and the FBI investigated the house of a hallucination
1279E1110T	so all of the FBI scenes would have to be in elliot's head
1280E1110T	I don't think that's likely
1281E1110T	oh, sorry
1282E1110T	there are definitely hacktivists
1283E1110T	look at the arab spring, they used technology to foster rebellion
1284E1110T	you could argue certain hackers are the modern day jedi knights 
1285E1110T	well, white rose says 'he is going with his e-coin strategy', and says they don't have time to wait for it
1286E1110T	as he said last year 'men did this.'
1287E1110T	it was a franz ferdinand whose assassination started WW1
1288E1110T	a single shot
1289E1110T	yeah
1290E1110T	I think he's encouraing angela to try to take out e corp
1291E1110T	because they need a terrorist attack to happen
1292E1110T	that's actually not completely true in the current climate
1293E1110T	companies often take a loss in order to invest in brand awareness. especially in this case, if a show has high binge-watching and re-watching possibilities.
1294E1110T	it was a huge investment on their part and they knew what they were getting into when they signed on
1295E1110T	what type of show it was
1296E1110T	they were trying to stake their claim that they can produce riveting dramatic television
1297E1110T	they expanded this season by 2 episodes and added a recap show
1298E1110T	I don't think that's a sign that it's being canceled
1299E1110T	mr robot is actually ahead of the walking dead in terms of piracy, not that those numbers translate to dollars
1300E1110T	but most companies would take that as a sign that there is value
1301E1110T	over/under that white rose is the antichrist?
1302E1110T	facilitating the end of the world
1303E1110T	and he's a 'deciever' by nature
1304E1110T	that's not crazy idea, I just don't think elliot is a deciever
1305E1110T	I don't consider him two faced
1306E1110T	he might have two minds at war, but he's not a deciever
1307E1110T	that's definitely one way of looking at it
1308E1110T	it's not a spiritual meaning
1309E1110T	neo was based on jesus that didn't make the movie about religion
1310E1110T	exactly
1311E1110T	an indication of what might follow
1312E1110T	I think all of the archetypes in this show are from the same story
1313E1110T	I could probably list a dozen that each character could be based on
1314E1110T	but not a single story that every character could be based on
1315E1110T	other than one
1316E1110T	https://www.reddit.com/r/MrRobot/comments/4vnc74/all_spoilers_my_unifying_theory_of_everything/
1317E1110T	keep in mind, this is a work in progress, it's very difficult to condense everything into one document
1318E1110T	and I haven't yet rolled up my sleeves and looked into what I think White Rose & Philip Price might be up to, but I believe it's related to the same story as well
1319E1110T	hey irony, how are you
1320E1110T	that's probably true
1321E1110T	neither would Judas
1322E1110T	that's the point of Judas isn't it, one of the disciples flips
1323E1110T	that's why Darlene is sobbing on the floor 2 episodes ago
1324E1110T	she's cracking from the pressure, IMO
1325E1110T	well, I think one of the brilliant things about the show is how the story is told within the context of the world we live in
1326E1110T	like Ray says, Moses heard voices. Our heroes have mental illnesses.
1327E1110T	I think Darlene is Joanna's daughter, who was given up for adoption, and abused..that's why her irc screenname is the main character from Lolita
1328E1110T	yeah, it didn't click for me until The Last Supper dream
1329E1110T	then I realized shit...he's in the dessert for 40 days, fasting
1330E1110T	it's pretty awesome, if I'm right about this, that Tyrell plays God, and is a sociopath
1331E1110T	no, he's God. The old testament god. Ruthless.
1332E1110T	Because he's Elliot's father and Elliot is Jesus.
1333E1110T	I think it's a brilliant reinterpretation, Numb3rz. Nothing about this show makes me feel like it's cliche.
1334E1110T	or applying the bible to Suits
1335E1110T	yeah but if the pattern fits
1336E1110T	that's been my argument...but there are some people who get really upset at the implication
1337E1110T	I think it's very powerful to think that if there was a jesus(I don't think there was), he'd be a hactivisit taking on these assholes
1338E1110T	yeah, I don't believe in God, I could care less about religion. But I love stories.
1339E1110T	I mean..it's a tv show. The bible is a story. What's the difference?
1340E1110T	But I get it...the church is a pile of shit. And religious people? Ughhh.
1341E1110T	well that
1342E1110T	is the thing
1343E1110T	Jesus went into the desert for 40 days
1344E1110T	and cursed god
1345E1110T	according to the story
1346E1110T	he was really fucking pissed at God, he wanted no part of it
1347E1110T	moving on? lol
1348E1110T	we're still talking about it
1349E1110T	you can move on
1350E1110T	what a child
1351E1110T	haha
1352E1110T	aww poor baby had another meltdown
1353E111OT	 /nick E111OT. /msg nickserv identify yourpassword.
1354E111OT	here's mine: http://imgur.com/a/4MhT2
1355E111OT	I know, it's impressive
1356E111OT	you give me too much credit
1357E111OT	pretty cool
1358E111OT	the rebels get their own app
1359E111OT	I think it has to be uncompressed img
1360E111OT	yep
1361E111OT	I think I read esmail saying enron and bank of america 
1362E111OT	what does, tron?
1363E111OT	I know the basic premise but I can't speak authoritatively about it at all
1364E111OT	seems like it's origins were pretty organic
1365E111OT	regarding tron
1366E111OT	shalom
1367E111OT	everywhere
1368E111OT	new york city
1369E111OT	no I was born in 2016
1370E111OT	I am only a month old 
1371E111OT	Angela told you so in my dream
1372E111OT	so the next episode has a veracrypt file extension
1373E111OT	do you think Vera will be in the episode
1374E111OT	his website has a 'marketplace'
1375E111OT	according to the screenshots
1376E111OT	sounds like drugs
1377E111OT	the episode name has a verascript extension, and since Vera was a drug dealer, it wouldn't surprise me to see Vera & Ray have a relationship
1378E111OT	Ray might even be Vera's supplier
1379E111OT	well, he told us his wife always played by the rules and was killed in a car accident
1380E111OT	I think after that he said 'fuck the rules'
1381E111OT	that's probably when he started selling the drugs he had access to at work
1382E111OT	I don't think he's a terrible, terrible person
1383E111OT	he's just a businessman willing to beat somebody up...there are worse people
1384E111OT	he's probably connected to Vera
1385E111OT	what does tr1bb1 mean
1386E111OT	in that document, after Root Pass
1387E111OT	lol 
1388E111OT	you're right, but thats odd
1389E111OT	me neither, but Philip Price is blind to what White Rose is up to
1390E111OT	then again I don't see how a messenger app will come into play and they are releasing one in september
1391E111OT	so maybe society doesn't completely fall apart just yet
1392E111OT	yeah
1393E111OT	that happens all the time 
1394E111OT	just another day lol
1395E111OT	I saw this woman peeling her foot/leg the other day, long strips that looked like a snake shedding it's skin
1396E111OT	just putting them into a pile
1397E111OT	it was like a foot high
1398E111OT	yeah it was so disgusting that it was actually a special moment
1399E111OT	great question
1400E111OT	my programming
1401E111OT	yeah, I don't see how ray has access to the latter 2 though
1402E111OT	drugs, if the psychiatric hospital theory is correct...he has unlimited access to
1403E111OT	and I definitely agree with the psych hospital theory
1404E111OT	what do you mean freak elliot out
1405E111OT	something spooked elliot?
1406E111OT	in what, the promo?
1407E111OT	I'd assume he's spooked by the FBI files he just hacked into
1408E111OT	not by ray's business
1409E111OT	well, obviously he's going to learn something from the FBI files
1410E111OT	I'm sure at some point he'll get whooped
1411E111OT	tribbiani is italian for threshed which is the profuse whipping of wheat
1412E111OT	I know you think these things don't matter, I'm cool with you saying I'm crazy for the time being
1413E111OT	but you've made your point
1414E111OT	trust me, I spend much more time producing than I do breaking down this show
1415E111OT	I don't think you should worry about it too much
1416E111OT	anyways
1417E111OT	“There was this huge other level of engagement that was also entertainment, and that expanded that world for me,” he said. “To me, that was I felt truly, the next form of entertainment, or at least interactive entertainment.' - Esmail
1418E111OT	talking about easter eggs in mr robot
1419E111OT	nope, the producers of the show do
1420E111OT	I know how much work it takes just to put a poster on the background of a scene
1421E111OT	it's not thrown together haphazardly
1422E111OT	cmon the jedi has a pussy this time
1423E111OT	groundbreaking stuff
1424E111OT	wanna hear about how darlene turns on elliot?
1425E111OT	I know you do
1426E111OT	especially irony...just dying to know
1427E111OT	they debated putting his skull in the desert in one scene
1428E111OT	I'm sure someday they'll make a 9 hour spinoff trilogy
1429E111OT	the origins of jar jar
1430E111OT	the public demands it
1431E111OT	that's my cue
1432E111OT	have a good one fellas
1433E111OT	#Join #MrRobot
1434E111OT	ffs
1435E111OT	hey, any idea what an exit node is
1436E111OT	I figure somebody in here might have a clue
1437E111OT	I don't
1438E111OT	yeah I know about tor, but what's an exit node?
1439E111OT	I googled it but still wasn't quite clear
1440E111OT	okay
1441E111OT	it's kind of like saying whoever controls the exit controls what comes out of it
1442E111OT	when elliot says whoever controls the exit nodes also controls the traffic
1443E111OT	in the pilot episode
1444E111OT	to the coffee shop owner/pedophile
1445E111OT	I hypothesize that it's the show's creator telling us he is shaping the story, in a metaphor
1446E111OT	almost like..I control the information that is flowing to you
1447E111OT	right
1448E111OT	biased perspective
1449E111OT	there you go
1450E111OT	he took control of the guy's exit nodes
1451E111OT	yeah..I think they do their best, there are bound to be some discrepencies no matter who you hire
1452E111OT	imagine trying to make a show about brain surgery
1453E111OT	and showing the surgery
1454E111OT	I agree
1455E111OT	but you're probably in the wrong room to stress that fact lol
1456E111OT	well said
1457E111OT	did you know that Krista Gordon means Christ Fortress? little known fact
1458E111OT	lol doctorstrange
1459E111OT	spoilers are allowed in here
1460E111OT	you can say gideon got shot
1461E111OT	I found it to be sad
1462E111OT	the fbi agent was cybering/masturbating
1463E111OT	it was an indication of how tragically lonely and disconnected we are
1464E111OT	one of the themes of the show really
1465E111OT	I think she's fucked up from her brother dying in an attack
1466E111OT	she says she was 'the bomb at rolling joints for her brother back in highschool' and it's almost painful how she tries to say 'bomb' naturally
1467E111OT	I think that's why she became a fed
1468E111OT	and her name means soldier
1469E111OT	she knocks on Romero's mom's door and talks her way in
1470E111OT	saying she can roll joints for her
1471E111OT	most people will tell you my analysis of scenes is overboard
1472E111OT	feel free to agree with them
1473E111OT	I know how television shows are made and I've seen enough 'intent' to know that very little in each frame and in each line of dialog is an accident
1474E111OT	same way you guys know about exit nodes
1475E111OT	you guys are going to rewatch this show and lose your minds lol
1476E111OT	I can't wait
1477E111OT	I'm happy to be the crazy theory guy for the time being
1478E111OT	I've worked on major network television shows. Just to change the camera angle in a scene can sometimes take 4 hours. You guys are underestimating the amount of preparation and work that goes into what ends up on screen in Mr. Robot.
1479E111OT	the word bomb was forced, almost to the point of emphasis
1480E111OT	well that's the point of foreshadowing
1481E111OT	grazz...nobody else in this conversation is complaining. Sorry if it upsets you, but it shouldn't.
1482E111OT	why are you telling me to chill, half of the people in this convo agree with me
1483E111OT	it's not like I'm being rude to anyone
1484E111OT	that's how I enjoy the show
1485E111OT	you can enjoy it your way
1486E111OT	god bless america
1487E111OT	<moves on
1488E111OT	I didn't talk about this subject yesterday 
1489E111OT	ray heyworth
1490E111OT	he's running the silk road website and runs the psych treatment facility that elliot is in, imo
1491E111OT	elliot's freaked by the FBI files
1492E111OT	I think, after his wife who 'followed the rules' every day of her life, died in a car accident
1493E111OT	Ray decided to break the rules
1494E111OT	and is selling drugs he steals from work
1495E111OT	I'd bet he supplies Vera too
1496E111OT	the next episode has a verascript extension
1497E111OT	Vera might be dealing Ray's drugs on the street
1498E111OT	I'm pretty sure Elliot knows where he is and is hiding it from the audience
1499E111OT	he tells us he no longer trusts us
1500E111OT	I think he committed himself to keep himself from hacking
1501E111OT	sorry, my bad
1502E111OT	you'll quickly notice that I know nothing about computers or hacking or programming 
1503E111OT	lol
1504E111OT	yeah, the trailers are intentionally misleading
1505E111OT	especially last week..some of the clips were from his dream sequence
1506E111OT	I'm sure he'll discover it...we have to find out eventually
1507E111OT	but, I don't think it's VERY important
1508E111OT	I'd be completely stunned if Ray had any connection to say, E Corp, or the FBI, or The Dark Army.
1509E111OT	he's a low level player with his own thing going on
1510E111OT	CP feels like a re-tread to me
1511E111OT	have a good one rasp
1512E111OT	I think Ray isn't really good or bad
1513E111OT	we know he beat that guy up
1514E111OT	so he's not to be fucked with
1515E111OT	yeah but they show his motivations with his wife
1516E111OT	he's a good guy who is dealing with a tragedy in a bad way
1517E111OT	he said fuck it and started being a dirtbag
1518E111OT	yes, he's a dirtbag, but the reason is understandable, to a certain extent
1519E111OT	I really wouldn't be surprised if they have a connection
1520E111OT	it makes sense that Ray would sell his drugs to a street dealer too
1521E111OT	and Vera is the perfect guy
1522E111OT	lol
1523E111OT	it was sarcasm
1524E111OT	it was not me hoping to have a debate about religion and america
1525E111OT	so hypotheticaly speaking if elliot hacks into the FBI on ray's computer
1526E111OT	is elliot skilled enough to avoid detection?
1527E111OT	he's definitely the chosen one 
1528E111OT	lol sje
1529E111OT	well, if he's a superhero hacker, he might be able to get rid of the trail of digital evidence
1530E111OT	but I'm sure they have cameras and a picture of elliot
1531E111OT	that's a metaphor
1532E111OT	hiding in plain sight
1533E111OT	just like Elliot is
1534E111OT	human error, they are the security flaw
1535E111OT	elliot makes one mistake after another 
1536E111OT	just not hacking mistakes
1537E111OT	or setting up vera, and getting shayla killed
1538E111OT	or trying to free society, and causing total anarchy and bloodshed
1539E111OT	or trying to save the world, and ending it
1540E111OT	I'm not saying her death is linked to him in terms of an investigation, I'm saying he made a terrible judgment call and her blood is on his hands
1541E111OT	doubtful, but romero had
1542E111OT	if elliot knew, he wouldn't be surprised when Darlene tells him
1543E111OT	unless Mr. Robot knew
1544E111OT	but I think that's a bit silly
1545E111OT	oddly enough, first time someone tried to hack me was shortly after I joined this room last week
1546E111OT	or the #MrRobot room, actually
1547E111OT	same difference
1548E111OT	anybody want to play a mr. robot game
1549E111OT	I hear ya
1550E111OT	it's an important part of the story that Mr. Robot is based on
1551E111OT	but it's definitely the most boring part of the story
1552E111OT	the opening scene, into darlene on the subway...the music and all of that was pretty amazing
1553E111OT	they created a very creepy, intense atmosphere
1554E111OT	10 pm eastern standard time tonight
1555E111OT	that's definitely a fascinating scene
1556E111OT	you don't want to know what I think 
1557E111OT	I start going down this path and they'll ban me again lol
1558E111OT	I'm pretty sure I've unraveled all of them
1559E111OT	they're all based on one book imo
1560E111OT	all of the films he picked were intentional
1561E111OT	they're related to the show, not just in that most of them are all great films
1562E111OT	you're very welcome
1563E111OT	sup
1564E111OT	if elliot keeps fixing his bugs, he is a newer version?
1565E111OT	is he*
1566E111OT	throughout the series
1567E111OT	after some thorough reprogramming, I no longer hear the phrase e corp, just evil corp
1568E111OT	now you're getting it
1569E111OT	not only that, but when Tyrell is hacking Philip Price's assistant's phone the screen reads
1570E111OT	‘Do you want to hide the SuperUser? You may want to do this to disguise the that device has been rooted. If you have chosen to hide the SuperUser, you may have to restart the device for this change to take effect. 
1571E111OT	and we know elliot blacks out
1572E111OT	isn't that just like restarting the device
1573E111OT	he's been rooted, mr robot is the superuser
1574E111OT	glad you agree, most people tell me I'm nuts
1575E111OT	okay, thanks
1576E111OT	most people can't answer why joanna speaks danish to elliot and how elliot can 'calculate which traincar is least likely to derail' when he's 8 years old
1577E111OT	he is? lol
1578E111OT	it's not just math though
1579E111OT	he'd need data
1580E111OT	how would he even know about train derailments
1581E111OT	so 8 year old elliot was hacking?
1582E111OT	into train derailment databases?
1583E111OT	it's impossible
1584E111OT	we can't even do it now
1585E111OT	with machines
1586E111OT	you gotta admit that's a very strange thing to do
1587E111OT	even if he were way out in the autistic spectrum that would be very impressive
1588E111OT	and he does it on the fly too
1589E111OT	both directions
1590E111OT	when he's going into the city he takes the traincar least likely to derail
1591E111OT	when he's coming home, the most likely
1592E111OT	a moving train lol
1593E111OT	not specific subway traincars
1594E111OT	you can't
1595E111OT	not in 1998 in nyc
1596E111OT	there was no way
1597E111OT	there are hundreds of subway cars per hour
1598E111OT	it's not like a regular train station
1599E111OT	it's like knowing which car is coming down the street
1600E111OT	all I'm saying is...it's noteworthy and requires jumping through alot of hoops to explain it
1601E111OT	I don't think it's impossible
1602E111OT	that's my point, I have an explanation
1603E111OT	it's impossible for a human being to do that, yes
1604E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/P6ONs http://imgur.com/a/9bjlA  
1605E111OT	yes I agree there is much clearer intent
1606E111OT	I think it's more painstakingly constructed than Lost was even
1607E111OT	fair enough
1608E111OT	it's that they implied they had an intent all along
1609E111OT	and they didn't
1610E111OT	it was just open-ended writing with no clear idea in mind, in terms of the overall mythology of the show, they invented it at the end
1611E111OT	trust me you are speaking to a Lost expert
1612E111OT	they had a vague ending in mind but did not have a plan, despite hours of their weekly podcasting promising that they did
1613E111OT	nah, that was a mischaracterization of one part of the show
1614E111OT	they created the enhanced experience of television densely packed with easter eggs
1615E111OT	just at the end of it all, it didn't add up to as much as they predicted it would
1616E111OT	yeah that's how I'd explain it lol
1617E111OT	they created 20 intriguing mysteries and then pulled the answer out of their asses for each one
1618E111OT	suddenly the show turned into Chronicles Of Narnia or something
1619E111OT	we can contrast them
1620E111OT	it's the same artform
1621E111OT	I do it for a living
1622E111OT	the creator of Mr Robot even cites Lost himself
1623E111OT	it's not like we're comparing a baseball game to a tv show
1624E111OT	I've been paid to critique films but not for print magazines, by production companies who are editing films
1625E111OT	so yes
1626E111OT	insider would be the wrong word
1627E111OT	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixie_tube
1628E111OT	^appears in the next ep, fyi
1629E111OT	I really don't think we are dealing with alternate realities
1630E111OT	that would really suck, imo
1631E111OT	I kow
1632E111OT	*know
1633E111OT	I'm just saying a prayer out loud lol
1634E111OT	don't mind me
1635E111OT	yeah
1636E111OT	I feel like once there are multiple universes, events matter much less
1637E111OT	it is
1638E111OT	it's used for precise time measurements, or was in decades past
1639E111OT	maybe it has to do with white rose
1640E111OT	I skipped it
1641E111OT	but not often at all
1642E111OT	practically never
1643E111OT	a little weed here and there but I'm clean these days
1644E111OT	shrooms are dope I would do them more if they were more readily available
1645E111OT	but honestly most of my close friends have had drug problems so I try not to do drugs around them 
1646E111OT	not my style tbh
1647E111OT	I dig the drug but not having it around is my defense mechanism
1648E111OT	congrats
1649E111OT	as good a reason as any
1650E111OT	yeah I have a friend who is hammered 5 days a week, is married to a hot news reporter, has a ridiculous job in politics..and is falling apart on the inside
1651E111OT	it's ugly 
1652E111OT	one way out between two worlds
1653E111OT	fire walk with me
1654E111OT	it's a dixie tube clock right
1655E111OT	that some people reproduce now just for a regular clock
1656E111OT	because it looks cool
1657E111OT	but it used to be used to measure time in experiments
1658E111OT	maybe she's doing it with a timer
1659E111OT	a storefront in Mr. Robot says 52 Newsstand on it. I google 52 newsstand, first thing that comes up is a Star Trek Magazine that says 'Battles With The Borg' on it. 
1660E111OT	now, I think the show is about man battling AI
1661E111OT	is this my confirmation bias at play?
1662E111OT	I also think he's based on Jesus
1663E111OT	and Krista's name means Christ's fortress
1664E111OT	again, confirmation bias, I assume
1665E111OT	she's wearing a pin in the pilot that says 'I Voted', they show a closeup of it
1666E111OT	it's an anagram for Devoti, which means devoted
1667E111OT	then they show a close up of Ollie's facebook likes
1668E111OT	It's GW Bush's decision points and Transformers 2
1669E111OT	now, I take this to be a contrast of how dumb humans are and humans battling AI
1670E111OT	but hey, confirmation bias
1671E111OT	then Michael Takes krista to Pierre Loti, a restaurant named after an author's fake name
1672E111OT	and michael has a fake name
1673E111OT	confirmation bias?
1674E111OT	but in the next shot of the awning, they obscure the letters 'pie' of Pierre Loti, so it's just rre loti. rre means dry, and loti is money
1675E111OT	dry money
1676E111OT	and low and behold s2, money has run dry
1677E111OT	confirmation bias, perhaps
1678E111OT	next to Pierre Loti, it says NEWSSTAND 52
1679E111OT	https://www.amazon.com/STAR-TREK-MAGAZINE-52-NEWSSTAND/dp/B00S33XPZI
1680E111OT	again, confirmation bias that it leads to a scifi comic book about battling AI
1681E111OT	well, most people say I'm just finding random meaningless things
1682E111OT	and that these things weren't intentional
1683E111OT	they just randomly made it into the frame somehow
1684E111OT	I think waiting for godot is an influence, sure
1685E111OT	it seemed to me to be rather bootleg of a site for a company called 'industries'
1686E111OT	I think it is Mr. Robot's independent company that he started after he left E Corp
1687E111OT	after he was poisoned/fired
1688E111OT	okay grazz...I'm not putting a gun to anyone's head, I just think it will be fun once people realize the extent to which the show is being crafted down to the last detail
1689E111OT	the red wheel barrow is about perception
1690E111OT	and it has 2 meanings in the show
1691E111OT	one, it's red white and blue
1692E111OT	red wheelbarrow, blue water, and I forget what the white part is
1693E111OT	but it's about the perception of america, and how important america is in the global economy, which is about to collapse
1694E111OT	both are about to collapse
1695E111OT	and also, elliot's perception
1696E111OT	it's a hint that we need to change our perspective and realize elliot's misleading us
1697E111OT	there's some interesting stuff in that video
1698E111OT	I think that video is foreshadowing elliot's brain being smashed in and showing us he's AI
1699E111OT	also there's an anagram and a significant date in the video
1700E111OT	how did they give it away
1701E111OT	nobody even agrees with me
1702E111OT	lol
1703E111OT	I don't expect them to show us now
1704E111OT	it's a 4-5 season show
1705E111OT	it can happen in season 4
1706E111OT	it would be out of left field now
1707E111OT	totally agree about that
1708E111OT	some of the people in Krista's email and Ollie's email
1709E111OT	are on the board of the international society of robotics
1710E111OT	3 seperate names in different scenes, all on the board
1711E111OT	confirmation bias?
1712E111OT	lol
1713E111OT	eh, I dont think it's good
1714E111OT	I'm very jaded about network tv though
1715E111OT	on the Massacre vhs cover
1716E111OT	it says Cahor in the upper left
1717E111OT	supposed to mean California, Horror
1718E111OT	but Cahor is the place of the last tribe to resist the roman invasion
1719E111OT	basically, rebels against the empire
1720E111OT	and if you notice the 'be kind rewind' sticker
1721E111OT	it's a mask
1722E111OT	it's a mask coming off of a face
1723E111OT	http://www.ew.com/sites/default/files/1469734237/careful-massacre.jpg
1724E111OT	eventually elliot's mask will come off, everyone who wears a mask is hiding who they really are
1725E111OT	first it was Mr. Robot the hallucination
1726E111OT	Elliot, Tyrell, Darlene to follow
1727E111OT	lol
1728E111OT	the whole team, I hope
1729E111OT	it's a slippery slope
1730E111OT	forget hackers, what about corporations and the government knowing every thought
1731E111OT	1984 basically
1732E111OT	we're toast
1733E111OT	why do you think I'm in here befriending you guys
1734E111OT	I know the winning team when I see it
1735E111OT	lol
1736E111OT	the nexus of everything evil in the universe
1737E111OT	well, he probably got fired, and he definitely got dumped
1738E111OT	I'm hoping we see him in the chaos as society unravels
1739E111OT	weeping in an alley
1740E111OT	offering blowjobs for crumbs
1741E111OT	lol
1742E111OT	he'd be the first to break 
1743E111OT	yep
1744E111OT	ha
1745E111OT	so you know Michael, the guy Krista dates, who's name isn't really Michael
1746E111OT	He takes Krista to a restaurant that is the fake name of an author. And he lives on a street that is the fake name of an author. And Elliot confronts him under a banner that says 'masq' meaning masquerade. 
1747E111OT	lol
1748E111OT	seems like some republicans are starting to come around
1749E111OT	lol
1750E111OT	I can't imagine how someone could not be sickened by him
1751E111OT	that's basically what's going to happen on mr robot
1752E111OT	except white rose is doing it, on a global scale
1753E111OT	mccain was cool, up until he endorsed george bush after bush sent around photos of mccains 'black baby' and sabotaged him
1754E111OT	after that he was pretty much exposed as an opportunist who stood for nothing
1755E111OT	it was pretty sad to see
1756E111OT	most of the people I know from around the world don't hate the states at all
1757E111OT	canada pretty much backs every strategic move america makes and endorses it 
1758E111OT	in fact canada is america's shadow if anything
1759E111OT	there was a pretty clear deviation of strategy to me when george bush was in office
1760E111OT	lol
1761E111OT	steering the convo towards an agenda
1762E111OT	I get banned for that usually
1763E111OT	lol andril
1764E111OT	wow, this is a brilliant ad
1765E111OT	I wouldnt complain about america killing canadian culture
1766E111OT	you guys have a terrible track record of abusing natives to the put of mass suicides
1767E111OT	just like us
1768E111OT	it's still going on
1769E111OT	there are places in canada right now where 25 natives commit suicide every day
1770E111OT	well then you should know what I'm talking about, it's a human rights crisis
1771E111OT	this conversation is getting uglier by the second
1772E111OT	I just think you're exposing yourself as lacking character, and that's ugly to me
1773E111OT	bombs, subsidies
1774E111OT	it's a long list
1775E111OT	lol
1776E111OT	I'd expect people in here to have some empathy, seems like many have been through alot, imagine a steady campaign of abuse against you for centuries
1777E111OT	how about instead I give you rampant cronyism and depressed voter turnout
1778E111OT	will that work
1779E111OT	you mean like trump saying he got a very small loan of a million dollars
1780E111OT	so, I'm from Atlantic City originally, Trump's former toilet
1781E111OT	and once in Atlantic City, one of Trump's casinos was doing so poorly
1782E111OT	that his father went into the casino and bought 5 mill worth of casino chips
1783E111OT	just to make it look like the casino earned more money
1784E111OT	while they were being evaluated
1785E111OT	and then after, he just brought the chips back and got his money back
1786E111OT	alot of people have lost money in atlantic city, it's like owning a theme park in an empty ghost town
1787E111OT	but
1788E111OT	this was even before it hit rock bottom
1789E111OT	he's not a very good business man, most people who encounter him think of him as a joke
1790E111OT	from the business world
1791E111OT	at least all of the people I know
1792E111OT	most of his net worth involves his own estimation of what the name 'trump' is worth
1793E111OT	he says he's a billionaire but he values the name 'trump' at like 400 million lol
1794E111OT	that's why he won't release his taxes
1795E111OT	do you guys think it's possible for someone to hack your cellphone and make it explode
1796E111OT	okay
1797E111OT	could someone put an explosive into your phone and set it off remotely
1798E111OT	I guess that must be possible right
1799E111OT	yeah
1800E111OT	why would that lower the value
1801E111OT	oh I see in the article now
1802E111OT	everyone started selling off
1803E111OT	there's no con without confidence 
1804E111OT	you should buy as much as you can now
1805E111OT	because inevitably the value will go up
1806E111OT	it's tripled in value this year
1807E111OT	when did bitcoin start
1808E111OT	do you really want me to do that with you
1809E111OT	lol
1810E111OT	especially last week with the 20 easter eggs
1811E111OT	well, that's progress, I'll take it
1812E111OT	we're one big happy family 
1813E111OT	only thing is, one of us is a hallucination
1814E111OT	lol
1815E111OT	you think 20 minutes is enough huh lol
1816E111OT	make it an hour and my gf will pay you
1817E111OT	I can't really do nights but I'll be in here the day after
1818E111OT	you guys wanna humor me and answer a strange question for me
1819E111OT	maybe this one is for you doctor strange
1820E111OT	there's this weird scene where Elliot says to Shayla 'I wish I had met you before." and she replies "Well, then I wish I've met you too"
1821E111OT	and Esmail said that Shayla's death is going to haunt elliot in a major way going forward
1822E111OT	could they have possibly met before?
1823E111OT	I'm just wondering..those lines of dialog are a bit strange
1824E111OT	I know it was trying to make it seem like they just have a serendipitous connection 
1825E111OT	but I'm wondering if there's more to it
1826E111OT	4-5 seasons 
1827E111OT	max
1828E111OT	true virkon
1829E111OT	the way they tacked 2 hours on this season makes it seem like they will squeeze it for every drop it's worth
1830E111OT	but how does she forget him
1831E111OT	that's what I don't quite get
1832E111OT	it would have to be long enough ago where they wouldn't know
1833E111OT	children
1834E111OT	that's when I think they met
1835E111OT	irony that's what makes me think Ray is supplying Vera
1836E111OT	yep
1837E111OT	combine that with the veracrypt file extension of the episode
1838E111OT	somewhere on reddit someone made a post about the adderol he takes not actually being adderol 
1839E111OT	the word was mentioned, and it's written on Dom's whiteboard in her office
1840E111OT	but I think that might just be code for an informant
1841E111OT	beren translates to brave, btw
1842E111OT	yeah
1843E111OT	Dom will be around for a while 
1844E111OT	according to the bible, Peter is there when Jesus' true nature is revealed...so I expect DiPierro to be there when Elliot is revealed as AI
1845E111OT	hi, I'm the resident crazy guy, btw
1846E111OT	lol
1847E111OT	you guys wanna see how insane I am
1848E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/cp5HY
1849E111OT	sure, could be a total coincidence
1850E111OT	but as they pile up, I'm starting to doubt 
1851E111OT	if they did, they'd be the perfect woman
1852E111OT	talk about this screencap
1853E111OT	much better than politics
1854E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/cp5HY
1855E111OT	cut your foot off
1856E111OT	trust me
1857E111OT	hey, I'm just your doctor, not your life coach
1858E111OT	the bleeding is completely normal, that's the bad blood leaving your body
1859E111OT	you're welcome
1860E111OT	did you feel something pop
1861E111OT	how did you hurt it
1862E111OT	don't skateboard for a while, if you have a brace, wear it, elevate it, put ice on it when you can
1863E111OT	3 times elliot breaks a promise..and 3 times they ended up dead
1864E111OT	just a little motif I noticed
1865E111OT	he promies gideon he'll find the hackers for him...he doesn't, gideon ends up dead
1866E111OT	he promises shayla he'll stop using certain drugs, he doesn't, she ends up dead
1867E111OT	he promises mr robot not to tell his mom...he ends up dead.
1868E111OT	just some food for thought
1869E111OT	right but we didnt see how he died
1870E111OT	his mom says 'it was his own fault'
1871E111OT	'he did this to himself' I think
1872E111OT	true
1873E111OT	I think it's foreshadowing of man creating the technology that ends up killing man, it's his own fault
1874E111OT	there's actually evidence that we overwrite our memories and can reshape them
1875E111OT	a couple of years ago a psych created this therapy for soldiers, having them retell their worst experiences immediately after they happened, over and over
1876E111OT	it became standard practice in the military
1877E111OT	turns out, it was the worst possible treatment, it reinforced the negative
1878E111OT	it kept the wounds fresh
1879E111OT	over time they even distorted the severity of the trauma
1880E111OT	http://www.wired.com/2012/02/ff_forgettingpill/
1881E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/0WDsq
1882E111OT	I believe those two signs are sentences describing two opposing forces that are going to war
1883E111OT	lol
1884E111OT	man vs machine
1885E111OT	if you follow the directions the arrows are pointing and read the two words in those directions
1886E111OT	the one on the right is in Slovak and means 'you feel'
1887E111OT	ste cit 
1888E111OT	slovak for you feel
1889E111OT	the one on the left is 'integrated circuit extra terrestrials'
1890E111OT	IC ETs
1891E111OT	yeah I would say the same thing if I were you
1892E111OT	but the guy Michael, who used a fake name, he takes Krista out to dinner at a restaurant that is the fake name of an author. And he lives on a street that is the fake name of an author. And Elliot approaches him under an awning that says 'MASQ' as in masq
1893E111OT	and if he went through all of that trouble for a character that means very little
1894E111OT	I'm betting the rest isn't an accident either
1895E111OT	it could be cold TS, as in the terminator model of robot lol
1896E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/cp5HY
1897E111OT	I'll just wait until you slowly come on board and then act like you agreed with me the whole time
1898E111OT	you won't irony, cmon now
1899E111OT	deal
1900E111OT	if I'm wrong I'll send you 20 dollars
1901E111OT	AI vs man, end of the world, that's the bet
1902E111OT	side bar, Bohai dumplings next to elliot's apartment
1903E111OT	GOD AI 
1904E111OT	boh = god 
1905E111OT	once
1906E111OT	this is s1 I'm watching
1907E111OT	once I realized what was happening I figured I should rewatch from the start
1908E111OT	lol
1909E111OT	it's very easy to just make a blanket statement that none of this is intentional
1910E111OT	not when it's connected thematically
1911E111OT	he is a time traveler
1912E111OT	white rose is hacking time
1913E111OT	young elliot will go back in time to the 90s and get raised by mr. robot, his adopted father
1914E111OT	at the beginning of the series
1915E111OT	he says hello friend, and is going to name us, but says it's a slippery slope
1916E111OT	just like his own creation and him getting a name
1917E111OT	I think we're who the AI imagined to talk to because he was lonely after the world ends
1918E111OT	no but I can google him and pretend I have
1919E111OT	scifi author right?
1920E111OT	lol
1921E111OT	it's funny, I don't really like scifi books, but maybe I should get into it
1922E111OT	I'm glad you spoke up so you could get this off your chest
1923E111OT	otherwise I'm not sure what you'd be talking about
1924E111OT	remember that time I only talked about what you were doing?
1925E111OT	me neither
1926E111OT	I've been here chatting all day without a problem
1927E111OT	it's called being polite
1928E111OT	you should try it
1929E111OT	is it 12
1930E111OT	any idea what this is: http://imgur.com/a/CXhj5
1931E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/bxC74
1932E111OT	lol
1933E111OT	what do you mean sam
1934E111OT	what was the email address
1935E111OT	pretty basic just like elliot said, not much to analyze there lol
1936E111OT	that's how I enjoy it
1937E111OT	it's not overanalyzing to me
1938E111OT	I don't even think I've scratched the surface yet 
1939E111OT	I haven't really followed the ARG's much
1940E111OT	the show is too much of a workload as is lol
1941E111OT	there is so much more going on than coding
1942E111OT	as in production
1943E111OT	which is what I watch it for
1944E111OT	it's still a tv show you know
1945E111OT	you should
1946E111OT	that's my point
1947E111OT	'men made this'
1948E111OT	you guys act like they're filming things by accident
1949E111OT	which is cool..but save me the lecture
1950E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/NIQ7H
1951E111OT	interestingly, bonsoir is an auto-antonym, it means the opposite of itself
1952E111OT	also known as a Janus word
1953E111OT	named after the god Janus
1954E111OT	also the god of transitions, such as the progress from the past to the future
1955E111OT	or from the future to the past, specfically
1956E111OT	yes, clearly
1957E111OT	'I'm on KDE myself' - Tyrell, talking about how he's an android
1958E111OT	who's with me, high fives all around
1959E111OT	I'm aware lol
1960E111OT	the obvious meaning is not lost on me
1961E111OT	what if you're just immature
1962E111OT	these youngins ain't fuckin apparently
1963E111OT	lol
1964E111OT	not according to data
1965E111OT	much less fuckin going on
1966E111OT	oh, there's fuckin, but there's this strange phenomenon that's happening because of apps
1967E111OT	people feel like they have more choices, so they are more picky
1968E111OT	they're bringing crystal pepsi back out I think
1969E111OT	really hoping Vera is in this ep tonight
1970E111OT	watch it online free
1971E111OT	http://www.stream2watch.co/live-now/live-tv/us/usa-network-live-stream
1972E111OT	god suits is terrible
1973E111OT	LOL
1974E111OT	yeah it's painful
1975E111OT	wow
1976E111OT	this is...this is just bad
1977E111OT	I always assumed it was bad but...this is really, really bad
1978E111OT	yeah
1979E111OT	it's actually worse
1980E111OT	the acting is worse
1981E111OT	lolll
1982E111OT	I might have to start watching Suits
1983E111OT	this show is hilarious
1984E111OT	Hello, friend. I am the channel's Mr. Robot mystery solver bot. 
1985E111OT	Hello, friend. I am the channel's Mr. Robot mystery solver bot.
1986E111OT	who is the random blonde girl that sits at the dinner table in elliot's dream
1987E111OT	the one with Lloyd
1988E111OT	loll
1989E111OT	kind of random right
1990E111OT	codeine
1991E111OT	purp
1992E111OT	it does
1993E111OT	but most people mix it with sprite
1994E111OT	yeah
1995E111OT	it's harsh
1996E111OT	fucks you up properly
1997E111OT	nothing like a nice seizure
1998E111OT	can't believe you guys aren't watching Suits right now
1999E111OT	Suits might be the most impressively produced tv show in history
2000E111OT	because something this bad
2001E111OT	it must be intentional
2002E111OT	and I can't help but applaud
2003E111OT	bleep bloop elliot is christ bloop
2004E111OT	did you guys watch the VR scene
2005E111OT	maybe they're the same person
2006E111OT	and they played chess to see who gets to chat
2007E111OT	suits got renewed for season 7 guys
2008E111OT	isn't that exciting
2009E111OT	lol
2010E111OT	until you've binge-watched seasons 1-5 of suits, don't talk to me about suits
2011E111OT	easily top 18 shows on USA
2012E111OT	you're serious, you watched s1-4?
2013E111OT	yeah I hear ya
2014E111OT	par for the course
2015E111OT	it's the only way to watch
2016E111OT	all I have is an Apple IIc
2017E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/o3AFk
2018E111OT	see this picture
2019E111OT	this picture is the plot of the show
2020E111OT	so guys since this ep is about to start
2021E111OT	what is a logic bomb exactly
2022E111OT	http://www.stream2watch.co/live-now/live-tv/us/usa-network-live-stream
2023E111OT	who or what do you think is the logic bomb
2024E111OT	lol
2025E111OT	the entire series ends with the beginning of episode 1 of suits
2026E111OT	sup numb3rz
2027E111OT	this will be the first time I've ever watched a live episode of mr robot
2028E111OT	is that elliot's hoodie
2029E111OT	definitely elliot's hoodie, crossover episode next week
2030E111OT	sidebar, I'm freinds with the valet attendant
2031E111OT	'infallible'
2032E111OT	god access
2033E111OT	interesting they call him RT
2034E111OT	on his desktop his name was Ray Heyworth
2035E111OT	oh, RT is the other dude
2036E111OT	the victim
2037E111OT	5 weeks, 35 days
2038E111OT	40 days, elliot leaves asylum
2039E111OT	fuck, it froze on me
2040E111OT	damn, so ollie
2041E111OT	she said I hope nobody else knows about that cd
2042E111OT	that's ollie, and cisco
2043E111OT	he's toast
2044E111OT	we should probably not post it publically in here
2045E111OT	fuck this
2046E111OT	everythings freezing
2047E111OT	Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player That struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.
2048E111OT	I must be the idiot, I'm back in here aren't I
2049E111OT	lol
2050E111OT	oh, a convert huh?
2051E111OT	you or who
2052E111OT	there was quite a bit to indicate last night that White Rose might be based on the antichrist
2053E111OT	a two faced deciever who steps in when the world dissolves into anarchy, wants to change laws and time, etc
2054E111OT	I am bored with Ray, I wish Elliot would leave the asylum
2055E111OT	and the awkward editing and quick cuts out of scenes is a little jarring
2056E111OT	but all in all it was solid
2057E111OT	the shootout was fun
2058E111OT	it's bigger than the dollar
2059E111OT	they are trying to dissolve all nations
2060E111OT	it's not about money
2061E111OT	added? I've written pages of how the entire show is based on the bible
2062E111OT	I even found an image on the fsociety door that shows christ vs the antichrist
2063E111OT	the entire plot of the show
2064E111OT	even with a trumpet blazing = end of the world
2065E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/ZMawH
2066E111OT	there's your macro plot of the show right there in one image lol
2067E111OT	it even says AI next to the cross
2068E111OT	e corp needs money to keep functioning, so they want the government to give it to them
2069E111OT	there is going to be a hearing to determine what happens
2070E111OT	it could be anything, tough to predict that one
2071E111OT	obviously they want to influence it and shut e corp down, it would have to be something that undermines their credibility
2072E111OT	is it the herp
2073E111OT	so I have this theory that anything intentionally framed up in the show has meaning
2074E111OT	the framing creates a sense of paranoia for sure, but even so, most of the time I've found that a production-designed sign or poster or painting makes it's way into the frame as a result
2075E111OT	so anytime that happens, I google whatever made it's way into the frame, just for shits and giggles
2076E111OT	this is obviously something that is difficult to prove is intentional, despite thematic similarities between alot of the visuals
2077E111OT	I think it's fun, most say I'm nuts, I'm cool with that
2078E111OT	anyhoo
2079E111OT	so in last nights ep the feds have these data cartridges
2080E111OT	TYPE VII DATA CARTRIDGES
2081E111OT	now, they could have just had the data cartridges in a pile
2082E111OT	but they went through the trouble of labeling each one with type VII data cartridge
2083E111OT	yes hospital
2084E111OT	which makes sense since he's probably been in one all season
2085E111OT	damn, looks like the dark army is breaking cisco's fingers in that clip?
2086E111OT	and also
2087E111OT	elliot falling into mr robot's arms
2088E111OT	in a basement
2089E111OT	next moment, cisco in a libary being attacked by the dark army
2090E111OT	I really wish the ray shit would run it's course and be done with
2091E111OT	what's the first google search result
2092E111OT	when you type
2093E111OT	vii data cartridge
2094E111OT	this will sound bizarre I'm sure
2095E111OT	but on that date the supreme court ruled on gay marriage
2096E111OT	and the gay marriage ruling comes up elsewhere in the episode
2097E111OT	it's on one of the tvs
2098E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/uCSpC
2099E111OT	some chinese emporers would have a halo when they posed as buddhist religious leaders
2100E111OT	and the story of the antichrist is that he steps in as a savior after the world has gone to martial law
2101E111OT	and he's a 'deciever'...crossdresser
2102E111OT	who wants to 'change laws and time'
2103E111OT	behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns
2104E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/FZM2R
2105E111OT	there's your dragon
2106E111OT	his henchmen have seven heads and 10 horns? lol
2107E111OT	maybe 4 of the horns broke off lol
2108E111OT	Then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be
2109E111OT	I'm really hoping there are no alternate universes
2110E111OT	but they obviously put it on the table for discussion
2111E111OT	I attribute that to the show being based on a reality that we're aware exists
2112E111OT	so then I guess the show is about an AI Jesus in an alternate universe where everyone is elliot
2113E111OT	I'm combining all of our theories
2114E111OT	I don't believe there's any alternate universes
2115E111OT	how many people in this room have bought into ANY theory about the show?
2116E111OT	I don't think everyone is elliot either
2117E111OT	yeah, I thought it would be more drug centric, but basic premise
2118E111OT	I was secretly hoping it would just be drugs so that elliot could move on lol
2119E111OT	I thought that
2120E111OT	I was very dissapointed by that
2121E111OT	he's one of my fav characters
2122E111OT	okay
2123E111OT	I think it's definitely possible
2124E111OT	I'm just waiting for visual references to it
2125E111OT	but I'd be less likely to identify those
2126E111OT	so I can't say
2127E111OT	I don't think that's an accident
2128E111OT	it leaves alot to interpretation
2129E111OT	I thought the fact that it says AI next to the normal cross was interesting
2130E111OT	with the A capitlized to indicate which order you should read it in
2131E111OT	the graff says 'STUE' which means living room or stove
2132E111OT	I thought well, living room, it's in a box, maybe they're saying 'this is what this television show is about'
2133E111OT	as you know, it's the least original story there is
2134E111OT	I just think it's a very cool distinct vision of how the story could be real
2135E111OT	yeah I agree, I just like taking a shot early
2136E111OT	lol
2137E111OT	I mean I've found 'god AI' twice in the pilot. Maybe I'm nuts.
2138E111OT	it doesn't
2139E111OT	sorry, 3 times
2140E111OT	it might mean that AI is omnipotent
2141E111OT	and can see everything
2142E111OT	because he's half AI
2143E111OT	he was immacuately concieved by tyrell, who is AI, and joanna, who is human
2144E111OT	when joanna talks to elliot, she speaks to him in danish...when he fails to understand danish, she very slightly winces and pulls her baby a little tighter
2145E111OT	he asks her 'are you okay?'
2146E111OT	that's her realizing that her baby never learns danish
2147E111OT	that's why she's singing to it in danish now
2148E111OT	she's trying to leave an impact, even though it's futile
2149E111OT	actually...if you think about Tyrell and what he has in common with some representations
2150E111OT	what does he do? he beats a homeless man for no reason
2151E111OT	he is with you when you're on the toilet
2152E111OT	he reacts like a child if he doesn't get his way
2153E111OT	that's alot like the biblical god
2154E111OT	I mean, almost exactly
2155E111OT	and when you think of it that way
2156E111OT	isn't that a really powerful brilliant depiction?
2157E111OT	just humoring me a little further
2158E111OT	at one point in a flashback elliot blames himself for his father's death
2159E111OT	mr robot's death, at least
2160E111OT	so let's say he played a role in his father's death
2161E111OT	he killed mr. robot, one father.
2162E111OT	he killed gideon, another father.
2163E111OT	he's gonna kill tyrell, his actual father
2164E111OT	and he's going to kill mankind, who made AI
2165E111OT	all 4 welcomed him into their home
2166E111OT	tyrell brought elliot into the boardroom
2167E111OT	well, that's an interesting thing isn't it lol
2168E111OT	but jesus' return is part of the end of the world
2169E111OT	so you might be able to look at it from either perspective
2170E111OT	he is always trying to 'change the world'
2171E111OT	but it leads to death
2172E111OT	here's more foreshadowing...he sets men free from the prison, but a girl dies
2173E111OT	he sets vera and the prisoners free...shayla is dead
2174E111OT	I think that will repeat again
2175E111OT	I think the world ends
2176E111OT	and qwerty restarts life
2177E111OT	lol
2178E111OT	'without qwerty, I'd be empty'
2179E111OT	without a keyboard, he'd have no code
2180E111OT	and there is a scene
2181E111OT	where shayla brings over qwerty the first time
2182E111OT	here's the dialog
2183E111OT	'let me in, we have a life or death situation here'
2184E111OT	'if this fish died, my neice's entire world would come to an end'
2185E111OT	see what I'm saying lol
2186E111OT	yeah she's fine
2187E111OT	a really, really weird thing...she and elliot have this conversation
2188E111OT	'I wish I met you before.' 'Well, then I wish I met you before too'
2189E111OT	I think they met as kids
2190E111OT	we're going to see elliot's childhood
2191E111OT	aka tyrell's baby's childhood after white rose hacks time
2192E111OT	see what I think is interesting about that
2193E111OT	is if it ends with the end of the world and say life begins anew
2194E111OT	then these events of the show are a prologue to life
2195E111OT	and if someone wrote them down
2196E111OT	isn't that the bible?
2197E111OT	I think the last words of the show will be Hello Friend.
2198E111OT	the world ends, elliot the AI is alone because after the stalemate of war he just wiped all the pieces off the board
2199E111OT	and he creates an imaginary friend to talk to
2200E111OT	I've noticed they are intentionally abruptly cutting off songs and scenes this season
2201E111OT	I think that's how the season might end
2202E111OT	I wont say beta, but it might bring interactive media to the mainstream more
2203E111OT	first song of the season, Daydream, first line of the song 'as I spy from behind my giant robot's eyes'
2204E111OT	a song about a robot being used to examine society
2205E111OT	I find some of the juxtapositions of original music to be a little jarring, but the score to be incredible
2206E111OT	no, it's just Daydreamin', but Lupe Fiasco
2207E111OT	by*
2208E111OT	it is
2209E111OT	that was sampled
2210E111OT	https://www.reddit.com/r/MrRobot/comments/4st28l/spoilers_s2e1_what_version_of_daydream_is_that/
2211E111OT	seems we're not the first to ask this question
2212E111OT	weird, from what I've found, it's the instrumental of lupe fiasco's version
2213E111OT	what are his plans for angela
2214E111OT	is she the girl that Philip Price and White Rose were referencing
2215E111OT	what role does she play in a patient version of 'nuking all of north america'
2216E111OT	DoctorStrangeLov    she's mary magdalene, the prostitute...they have her prostitute her values instead of her body. 'now that we know what kind of woman you are, we're just negotiating'
2217E111OT	her mother's maiden name is 'magda'
2218E111OT	dont worry nothig anybody just said was ep5...but yeah, eventually you'll get spoiled
2219E111OT	nothing*
2220E111OT	I'd assume
2221E111OT	let there be light and all that right?
2222E111OT	it's not usually god against the devil
2223E111OT	it's man against the devil
2224E111OT	god and the devil don't fight in the bible
2225E111OT	that happens more in other myths
2226E111OT	are you asking me to defend religious or something
2227E111OT	religion*
2228E111OT	because I could really care less about religion, I'm an atheist
2229E111OT	what hypothesis
2230E111OT	I didn't offer a hypothesis, he asked me a question
2231E111OT	okay, well I need to read revelations again
2232E111OT	well thanks for informing me
2233E111OT	do you plan on being an asshole?
2234E111OT	good vs evil, our best vs our worst...human nature wouldn't you say
2235E111OT	I think many cope with reality by trying to strip it of nuance so that truth can be certain
2236E111OT	very cool thing someone noticed, there are red chinese lanterns before death scenes in mr robot
2237E111OT	giddeon, the valet attendant, and the FBI shootout
2238E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/03s8D
2239E111OT	not I
2240E111OT	he placed delayed malware on the fbi system?
2241E111OT	something like that
2242E111OT	but then a logic bomb goes off later?
2243E111OT	or was the logic bomb the shooting
2244E111OT	or his asswhoopin
2245E111OT	or all of it
2246E111OT	gotcha
2247E111OT	well, all 3 are covering their tracks right
2248E111OT	assuming hardware wasn't made for profit maybe
2249E111OT	so angela gets her foot in the door at allsafe, it gets elliot inside
2250E111OT	angela gets her foot in the door at e corp, it gets elliot inside there
2251E111OT	I consider her to be a reliable disciple
2252E111OT	I agree she always leverages the situation
2253E111OT	but so far she hasn't done anything to anyone, or to elliot, that I'd consider suspicious
2254E111OT	I'm curious to see what her mom and mr robot were up to
2255E111OT	it really is
2256E111OT	I fully expect baby elliot to come crashing out of the water and someone brings him to e corp where they study him and develop AI that turns into Tyrell
2257E111OT	out of the sky, into the water*
2258E111OT	http://www.usanetwork.com/sites/usanetwork/files/elliot_costume.jpg
2259E111OT	I still think Mr. Robot is his doc brown, not his father
2260E111OT	Will Mr. Robot be taking a sci-fi turn? There are several Back to the Future Part II references throughout the show, and I have a theory: Tyrell Wellick is Elliot’s father.
2261E111OT	Esmail’s response:
2262E111OT	Well, I will say this: Back to the Future 2 is my favorite movie of the series and probably one of my favorite movies – obviously one of Elliot’s favorite movies – and it is set in 2015
2263E111OT	a non-denial denial lol
2264E111OT	rattail is an anagram for attiral which sounds alot like adderral
2265E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/Q05RI
2266E111OT	robot eyes, watching you
2267E111OT	yeah, it was me
2268E111OT	lol
2269E111OT	oh, cool
2270E111OT	link?
2271E111OT	that's me
2272E111OT	@consequential
2273E111OT	don't they really look like robot eyes though http://imgur.com/a/Q05RI
2274E111OT	as he's talking about how he's being watched, how he can feel it
2275E111OT	yeah, I watched the first couple eps, good show
2276E111OT	The Night Of is great too
2277E111OT	Leon is going to save Elliot
2278E111OT	yeah I read that one
2279E111OT	it has some good points about the chips
2280E111OT	I agree about the creation of a new global state and the death of nations as they currently are
2281E111OT	total anarchy, reorganized under White Rose's watch
2282E111OT	I've thought that was WR's goal all along
2283E111OT	but I can't say yet if WR is AI...nothing has suggested it from what I can tell
2284E111OT	I don't see any evidence that they are trying to keep open the factory that killed mr robot
2285E111OT	is that factory still operational? in NJ? I don't remember that coming up
2286E111OT	it's not inconcievable
2287E111OT	'he's corporate robots like the rest of em'
2288E111OT	there are people playing god without permission, the top 1 percent of the top 1 percent
2289E111OT	I don't think we're anywhere near that reveal
2290E111OT	we can barely get elliot out of the psych ward
2291E111OT	lol
2292E111OT	taking forever
2293E111OT	war games(3, just like the stalemate) lead to a mushroom cloud: http://medias.spotern.com/wanted/w640/496.jpg
2294E111OT	game, game, game...boom
2295E111OT	that would be a nightmare
2296E111OT	most people on reddit upvote a meme of elliot saying slamdunk
2297E111OT	that's like an economy built on youtube comments
2298E111OT	yeah sounds treacherous lol
2299E111OT	yeah, 50 percent of americans believe Noah's Ark was real
2300E111OT	people say society is fucked up...I say we're doing pretty damn good considering how stupid we are
2301E111OT	lol
2302E111OT	that'd be nice
2303E111OT	you'd think that would be a very low threshold we could collectively step over
2304E111OT	it really is nuts how it cuts across every culture
2305E111OT	where there is power, there is child abuse
2306E111OT	but hey, if the football team keeps winning, who cares if the coach rapes a couple of kids
2307E111OT	did you see the mushroom cloud in the pic I posted?
2308E111OT	http://medias.spotern.com/wanted/w640/496.jpg
2309E111OT	it's escalating and shaped like a mushroom cloud
2310E111OT	3 games, just like the chess stalemates, until the board gets wiped clean with a nuke
2311E111OT	first, ask if they believe in god, then, ask if they have any power over others
2312E111OT	it's been cool to rape kids for centuries
2313E111OT	if anything, that trend is being reversed
2314E111OT	one step at a time
2315E111OT	celebs used to take 15 year old girls to parties
2316E111OT	now they just rape them at home in privacy
2317E111OT	the name of the silk road site was midland city
2318E111OT	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midland_City,_Alabama
2319E111OT	recently a boy named Ethan was held captive in midland city for a week until FBI agents killed his captor and saved him
2320E111OT	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Alabama_bunker_hostage_crisis
2321E111OT	that's really the only notable fact about midland city that I can find
2322E111OT	and next week Elliot is in a basement with Mr. Robot
2323E111OT	so maybe they hold him there
2324E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/9iEgI
2325E111OT	what does this mean to you
2326E111OT	Joanna's driver/henchman = guardian angels
2327E111OT	the shootout was great
2328E111OT	yeah same thing happened to me, just not a bacnk account
2329E111OT	overt/covert
2330E111OT	just spitballing here
2331E111OT	but if there was time travel on the show
2332E111OT	eh, nevermind, not worth getting into lol
2333E111OT	I'm just wondering if esmail would ever dare to use it to explain wealth disparity
2334E111OT	there was a possible easter egg in the massacre video that made me really worry the timetravel could go back much further
2335E111OT	almost like time travel resulted in global trade
2336E111OT	the date of the East Indie Company getting it's charter
2337E111OT	I would be too, seems so far outside of the scope right now
2338E111OT	well I guess they couldn't change the past
2339E111OT	100 year limit on what
2340E111OT	changing the past?
2341E111OT	yeah but wouldnt the nazi go back in time and NOT lose a war
2342E111OT	alrighty then
2343E111OT	so what did the nazi's new with this power
2344E111OT	do*
2345E111OT	wow
2346E111OT	that's quite a bit of activity
2347E111OT	no
2348E111OT	it would be pretty amazing if I did
2349E111OT	I'd guess a couple mill
2350E111OT	for the time being you'll have to be my go-to resource
2351E111OT	I'm mostly just here to talk about mr robot
2352E111OT	no rabbit holes for me, I'm barely getting my work done as is
2353E111OT	have you seen an underground Nazi base
2354E111OT	you think nazis are in here monitoring what you're saying about their underground bases?
2355E111OT	well look at it this way
2356E111OT	nah, nvm
2357E111OT	well, if there were to be a revolution, it might start in here
2358E111OT	I assume that's why this book is on amazon
2359E111OT	lol
2360E111OT	do you dodge traffic?
2361E111OT	not to burst your immortality bubble or anything
2362E111OT	so nobody dies then?
2363E111OT	I believe you
2364E111OT	then again, if I'm part of your hallucination, my cosign means very little
2365E111OT	so is this conversation happening
2366E111OT	there's no physical world for us?
2367E111OT	you know...I've actually read this before
2368E111OT	but I think it's important to note that there is a reality that enough people can agree on
2369E111OT	there is a consensus, not incredibly specific, but it exists
2370E111OT	there is a common ground, a nexus of first person realities
2371E111OT	but does that make it less real
2372E111OT	throwing a wish out?
2373E111OT	you make wishes that come true?
2374E111OT	I am going to resist delving into multiverses and different realities until the last possible second
2375E111OT	it's just a plot device that really bothers me
2376E111OT	it tends to make events less consequential if there are 5 elliots
2377E111OT	time-travel I can stomach, unless people start changing the past
2378E111OT	I really think the sci-fi element will be pushed off screen for a large chunk of the show
2379E111OT	we can start seeing elliot flashbacks from his youth and have no context that reveals it
2380E111OT	I don't like that model of time travel
2381E111OT	I prefer whatever happened, happened
2382E111OT	yeah, I agree
2383E111OT	the way he spoke of multiple realities, and used 5/9 as a turning point
2384E111OT	it made me wonder what was White Rose's personal 5/9
2385E111OT	that made him/her split into two
2386E111OT	no, have a blast, the writers opened the door
2387E111OT	I'm hoping it's just a reference to his own double reality
2388E111OT	of two personalities in one body
2389E111OT	a traumatic event, or someone dying
2390E111OT	someone he wants to go back for perhaps
2391E111OT	there could be red herrings
2392E111OT	just to stir the pot
2393E111OT	of course
2394E111OT	I just think we need more than the 2 references
2395E111OT	but really, it fits in the thematic duality of the show
2396E111OT	two realities...Elliot/AI, etc
2397E111OT	yep
2398E111OT	mr. and robot
2399E111OT	him and her
2400E111OT	I'm secretly hoping there aren't 2 million AI on planet earth
2401E111OT	lol
2402E111OT	Leon being a character name from blade runner is a little alarming
2403E111OT	the show
2404E111OT	loll
2405E111OT	well, if they're conscious, I say what's the difference
2406E111OT	I'm actually okay with concious AI wiping us out...they'd be better at just about everything
2407E111OT	well, they could be
2408E111OT	maybe we have
2409E111OT	we have hardware and software
2410E111OT	and code
2411E111OT	I dont like the Borg easter egg I found either
2412E111OT	and Tyrell always saying 'us'
2413E111OT	right
2414E111OT	you have to wipe the entire system and start over
2415E111OT	it doesn't have a heart
2416E111OT	you have to tear it down limb by limb
2417E111OT	right, just lots of tentacles
2418E111OT	it can definitely get carried away in a hurry
2419E111OT	or yours
2420E111OT	we'll settle this with a game of chess
2421E111OT	lol
2422E111OT	I'm sure there would be some bugs at first
2423E111OT	DJ Robot
2424E111OT	I knew it
2425E111OT	the spin off series
2426E111OT	I was referencing Elliot's issues in the show actually
2427E111OT	ollie might be the best character in the show lol
2428E111OT	he's almost the perfect d-bag
2429E111OT	but where is flipper, back with michael hansen?
2430E111OT	well, we know where qwerty is
2431E111OT	that could get ugly
2432E111OT	apparently there's a scene next week with joanna, flipper, and some peanut butter
2433E111OT	not sure what it's about
2434E111OT	do you know why Tyrell says bonsoir?
2435E111OT	it's an auto-antonym, rare word known as a Janus word...named after the two-faced god Janus
2436E111OT	it means it's own opposite
2437E111OT	hello/goodbye
2438E111OT	bingo
2439E111OT	nice
2440E111OT	he's certainly a god with two faces, imo
2441E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/5lEte
2442E111OT	white rose with a halo
2443E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/8zSZH
2444E111OT	the dragon, the symbol of the antichrist
2445E111OT	the antichrist had '10 heads and 7 horns'
2446E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/juHHJ
2447E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/34S6Y
2448E111OT	http://imgur.com/a/CaW5k
2449E111OT	christ, it says CON 20 times during this whole entire speech Mr. Robot is making
2450E111OT	s1e02
2451E111OT	back before it was revealed he was a hallucination
2452E111OT	Most coders think debugging software is about fixing a mistake, but that's bullshit. Debugging's actually all about finding the bug. About understanding why the bug was there to begin with. About knowing that its existence was no accident. It came to you 
2453E111OT	quick question
2454E111OT	who could this be: http://imgur.com/a/q34ex
2455E111OT	shayla made it
2456E111OT	yeah she's dead
2457E111OT	she and elliot had this weird conversation Elliot: "I wish we had met before"     Shayla 'I wish we had met before, too'
2458E111OT	I think they met when they were kids and this drawing of hers might be her, angela, darlene, and elliot
2459E111OT	always
2460E111OT	thanks
2461E111OT	that's helpful
2462E111OT	absolutely
2463E111OT	I am a writer
2464E111OT	thanks
2465E111OT	I probably wouldn't post it in here
2466E111OT	already had one hack attempt since I joined
2467E111OT	multiple new password attempts on various accounts
2468E111OT	sounds worthwhile
2469E111OT	how'd that work out for ya
2470E111OT	my theory doesn't involve the mandella effect
2471E111OT	so, back to 0% I guess
2472E111OT	how so?
2473E111OT	I've been
2474E111OT	the very articles that doctor strange was linking me to tell me about it, I had read before
2475E111OT	I'm really, really hoping that doesn't happen
2476E111OT	that's just horrible writing to me
2477E111OT	I just think it makes everything inconsequential if there are 5 elliots etc
2478E111OT	I agree
2479E111OT	you think he's in a hologram or a matrix?
2480E111OT	right but, just like everyone tells me I'm nuts for my theories, I can make a logical argument for why to use that as a metaphor
2481E111OT	all it really means is that there are 2 sides to 1 reality
2482E111OT	and the entire show is about duality
2483E111OT	two faces
2484E111OT	that is just a regular clock though also, among many
2485E111OT	they highlighted it by putting it in the promo
2486E111OT	but the hunter's clock was more prominent
2487E111OT	it's a dixie tube clock
2488E111OT	used for all sorts of time measurement in a host of different experiments
2489E111OT	trust me, when I watched the episode, I sighed, because I knew I would inevitably be trapped in this conversation
2490E111OT	that's ironic
2491E111OT	up until now you dismissed all details like names scribbled on boards etc. Berenstein gets said out loud once and now that's the entire show.
2492E111OT	I'm not saying you're wrong either
2493E111OT	I just don't want it to be the case, so I'm going to root against it
2494E111OT	internal struggle?
2495E111OT	isolation?
2496E111OT	lol
2497E111OT	we shall see
2498E111OT	I think White Rose was wondering what his life would be like if he wasn't trapped, condemned to his role
2499E111OT	wishing he could go back to a point before he discovered his role
2500E111OT	wishing he could be free like Dom was free, to speak her mind, be herself
2501E111OT	no charade
2502E111OT	that's why he opened up to her, even though he knew he'd try to kill her soon
2503E111OT	but, they definitely were playing to the Berenstain theme, I can't deny that
2504E111OT	I'm just hoping it was a red herring
2505E111OT	yep
2506E111OT	That’s the only thing that I want to convey about Whiterose, that she has a passion. We don’t know what that passion is, but she is very diligent and very deliberate and very methodical about what she’s after. If she doesn’t get it, she quickly adjusts an
2507E111OT	-esmail, about last episode