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1[2018-03-25 03:46:47] <lucky> I haven't been to a theatre since 2007 or so
2[2018-03-25 03:46:54] <lucky> Just doesn't appeal to me anymore.
3[2018-03-25 03:47:19] <lucky> Good reviews on that one Sabotender ?
4[2018-03-25 03:47:46] <lucky> I don't think I've seen any of Chandrasekhar's films
5[2018-03-25 03:47:47] <+Sabotender> lucky: ohh yeah
6[2018-03-25 03:47:50] <lucky> I tend more to TV for comedy
7[2018-03-25 03:47:51] <+Sabotender> lots of buzz about that one
8[2018-03-25 03:48:25] <+Sabotender> lucky: well its a pretty big event, because the city is about 3.5 hours away
9[2018-03-25 03:48:34] <lucky> :)
10[2018-03-25 03:48:39] <+Sabotender> going to be about 10 of us
11[2018-03-25 03:48:40] <lucky> Sabotender is in the middle of nowhere?
12[2018-03-25 03:48:44] <lucky> Or just another city.
13[2018-03-25 03:48:47] • Sabotender: nods
14[2018-03-25 03:49:02] <+Sabotender> now I told you I live in a very small town, on 10 acres
15[2018-03-25 03:49:10] <+swoolley> Sabotender: how far away is the second nearest city?
16[2018-03-25 03:49:21] <+Sabotender> second nearest? hmm
17[2018-03-25 03:49:34] <+swoolley> lol, I was going to triangulate your position
18[2018-03-25 03:49:51] <+Sabotender> uh huh. that's why I gave the hmm
19[2018-03-25 03:50:04] <+Sabotender> LOL. I see right though to you :-P
20[2018-03-25 03:51:07] <+Sabotender> swoolley: eventually I'm just going to invite you to my house, ya know. I've been lazy filling it out with furniture though, since I am the only one that lives here. I am in no rush.
21[2018-03-25 03:52:43] <lucky> Heh.
22[2018-03-25 03:52:51] <lucky> I mean I'm in a place that's pretty sparsely populated
23[2018-03-25 03:52:58] <lucky> but there's still a dozen major cities within 4 hours drive
24[2018-03-25 03:55:18] <lucky> does Detroit still count as a city or is it a post-apocalyptic nightmare?
25[2018-03-25 03:55:41] <+Sabotender> lucky: Detroit reminds me of a city from Fallout 4
26[2018-03-25 03:55:46] <lucky> hee
27[2018-03-25 03:56:03] <lucky> It's fascinating how different it is with the border and Windsor
28[2018-03-25 03:56:11] <lucky> Almost entirely from different public policy.
29[2018-03-25 03:56:26] <lucky> top-down funding etc.
30[2018-03-25 03:57:30] <+Sabotender> I thought Detroit did a complete revamp of its local government? or did I misread something
31[2018-03-25 03:57:43] <+Sabotender> some parts are a pure ghost town
32[2018-03-25 03:59:20] <lucky> Well yeah, but that's my point
33[2018-03-25 03:59:36] <lucky> the hospitals in Windsor are funded with a mix of federal and provincial money
34[2018-03-25 03:59:41] <lucky> the police, same thing, education same thing
35[2018-03-25 04:00:06] <lucky> Once Detroit's economy evaporated there was little revenue base and the American systems are often locally funded
36[2018-03-25 04:00:12] <lucky> such as local education from property tax
37[2018-03-25 04:00:16] <lucky> creating a vicious circle
38[2018-03-25 04:01:42] <+Sabotender> that is a rather unforunate circle of depression
39[2018-03-25 04:02:07] <+Sabotender> I have been watching Mama's Family episodes, hilarious
40[2018-03-25 04:04:09] <lucky> :)
41[2018-03-25 04:12:07] <+Sabotender> lucky: hey has your living situation improved?
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43[2018-03-25 04:18:19] <lucky> Yes.
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47[2018-03-25 04:35:46] <catflaps> kunwon1, may I please cum and piss inside of your anus? lol fag
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49[2018-03-25 04:36:04] <+kunwon1> how bizarre
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53[2018-03-25 04:41:03] <Cowclops> i think i can save enough to retire in 10 year
54[2018-03-25 04:41:04] <Cowclops> s
55[2018-03-25 04:41:41] <Cowclops> The number is debateable though - if i'm saving 40% of my income, then that means i can live off only 60% of my current take home, so the number i'd need to "be totally ok" seems relatively low...
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58[2018-03-31 17:29:59] <FreeNslaved> Hogwash...survivor?  In his own words he admitted not even being there. Who needs truth?
59[2018-03-31 17:30:29] <FreeNslaved> Lies=truth   oh thats right
60[2018-03-31 17:30:37] <FreeNslaved> of left now
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62[2018-03-31 17:33:53] <FreeNslaved> politicians hiding behind these kids and sticking their hands up their arses as puppets is truly disgusting.
63[2018-03-31 17:34:08] <+kunwon1> FreeNslaved: who's doing that?
64[2018-03-31 17:34:22] <FreeNslaved> Soros nowhere to be found, surely
65[2018-03-31 17:34:22] <+kunwon1> and who's calling him a survivor?
66[2018-03-31 17:34:31] <+kunwon1> LOOOL
67[2018-03-31 17:34:33] <FreeNslaved> Dont you read?
68[2018-03-31 17:34:38] <+kunwon1> sorry, i didn't realize you were an idiot, carry on
69[2018-03-31 17:34:50] <FreeNslaved> nice deflection as usual
70[2018-03-31 17:35:14] <+kunwon1> let me guess, it's all obvious, soros controls it all, and you can't provide any credible evidence because all of the media is controlled by the enemy
71[2018-03-31 17:35:41] <FreeNslaved> ad hominems the usual i see, some things will never change
72[2018-03-31 17:35:48] <fChanX> What is this about? :o
73[2018-03-31 17:36:01] <+kunwon1> FreeNslaved: you're the one calling people liars without providing evidence
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76[2018-03-31 17:36:22] <FreeNslaved> going back to peanut gallery because some here are afraid of factual evidence
77[2018-03-31 17:36:33] <+kunwon1> FreeNslaved: where's this supposed evidence?
78[2018-03-31 17:36:39] <FreeNslaved> go one name calling....
79[2018-03-31 17:36:55] <FreeNslaved> even better just ban me, its your usual tactic
80[2018-03-31 17:36:57] <+kunwon1> FreeNslaved: evidence?
81[2018-03-31 17:37:05] <+kunwon1> you mentioned evidence, where is it
82[2018-03-31 17:37:11] <FreeNslaved> pearls before swine
83[2018-03-31 17:37:16] <FreeNslaved> never
84[2018-03-31 17:37:26] <FreeNslaved> stop being lazy
85[2018-03-31 17:37:31] <+kunwon1> well, sell fulfilling prophecy i guess
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91[2018-03-31 19:49:17] <+modulus> in the end it's just another surveillance tool
92[2018-03-31 19:49:21] <+modulus> really, aCAB.
93[2018-03-31 19:49:33] <_W_> and Justice Department said there'd be no federal charge
94[2018-03-31 19:49:36] <fnlkj> modulus: ah, really..? was gonna say I disagree, but then...yeah sounds like cops again, and klinda uselesss as without then. heh
95[2018-03-31 19:50:01] <Omega037> modulus, surveillance of interactions with the police arent really "private" or something to keep opaque
96[2018-03-31 19:50:16] <_W_> depends on what the police are doing
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98[2018-03-31 19:50:35] <+kunwon1> police should not have a right to privacy while they are performing their duties
99[2018-03-31 19:50:47] <+modulus> kunwon1: it's not the police's privacy i worry about.
100[2018-03-31 19:50:49] <fnlkj> they happily use that to, more so knowing one feel it uncomfortable... , cause embarassment, trouble etc. as well--subtle sneaky ways to bother u..
101[2018-03-31 19:50:49] <Omega037> you obviously need to prevent the cops from manipulating things like planting evidence, then turning on the cam
102[2018-03-31 19:50:53] <+kunwon1> it's complicated by the fact that they interact with people who have a right to privacy
103[2018-03-31 19:51:14] <+kunwon1> there needs to be oversight, but a lot of the materials involved can't be made public
104[2018-03-31 19:51:26] <+modulus> kunwon1: yeah but these are cops
105[2018-03-31 19:51:30] <+modulus> i generally don't trust them
106[2018-03-31 19:51:34] <+kunwon1> i don't either
107[2018-03-31 19:51:44] <+kunwon1> i think there should probably be some sort of civilian oversight committee
108[2018-03-31 19:51:45] <Omega037> well, you only need to make it available to the defense, investigators, and anyone with civil cause
109[2018-03-31 19:51:55] <_W_> I don't think there's any large data collection operation in the world that has anything near sufficient data controls to protect people's privacy, or even prevent gross misuse of the data
110[2018-03-31 19:51:59] <+modulus> Omega037: very easy for it to leak and prejudice a jury though for example.
111[2018-03-31 19:52:07] <+kunwon1> with broad mandate to investigate the police and far-reaching access to their work product
112[2018-03-31 19:52:14] <_W_> but on the net, in places like the US, I think body cams do more good than harm
113[2018-03-31 19:52:33] <+modulus> w: i'm unconvinced, it could be the case but i think the fact a lot of cops want them is probably an indication that they are bad.
114[2018-03-31 19:52:34] <_W_> it also helps that there's not yet good tools for aggregating things over large amounts of video
115[2018-03-31 19:52:40] <fnlkj> "come on,let's drive and drop you off at the station after taking 'updated photos' (second time in 6mos)"   (well aware path home almost requires a days walk / night slept out.. hhhh...  )    all kindsa such bs nmore and more often..lies  and ..whatever.
116[2018-03-31 19:52:59] <+kunwon1> police departments investigating themselves is in and of itself laughable
117[2018-03-31 19:53:04] <fnlkj> a few though, i guesss should be given much  credit..and beingn nice, ime.....so far neway,ifnot an  act.... typically the older ones i think
118[2018-03-31 19:53:09] <+kunwon1> internal affairs departments are useless and should be replaced with actual oversight
119[2018-03-31 19:53:11] <_W_> modulus: cops are convinced of their own righteousness, I wouldn't give that too much credence
120[2018-03-31 19:53:41] <+modulus> w: they have to know that they use false evidence, violate procedure, etc, all the time, it's not something you can't do by mistake or omission.
121[2018-03-31 19:53:46] <fnlkj> police witnesses are of the most credible vs oher parties
122[2018-03-31 19:53:56] <+kunwon1> there needs to be independent oversight of interrogations, of prisons, etc
123[2018-03-31 19:53:59] <_W_> modulus: no, but it is something you can do thinking it's justified
124[2018-03-31 19:54:04] <+kunwon1> by which i mean, overseers directly watching and monitoring them on-site
125[2018-03-31 19:54:21] <+modulus> w: sure but then you won't defend mechanisms that make it genuinely harder to do, since you think it's justified.
126[2018-03-31 19:54:23] <_W_> modulus: there was a case not too long ago of a police officer caught planting evidence *while the camera was rolling*
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128[2018-03-31 19:54:46] <+kunwon1> the problem then becomes, of course, who overees the overseers
129[2018-03-31 19:54:48] <_W_> modulus: that's my point, they probably don't think it makes it harder to do
130[2018-03-31 19:54:54] <fnlkj> idea!- genetic engineering, surgical, chemical etc.. to remove our way to comprehend beyond being effective stream-lined more effective workers
131[2018-03-31 19:54:57] <_W_> their perception is that the system will protect them
132[2018-03-31 19:55:18] <+modulus> w: yes, and i think they know whereof they speak. and hence if it doesn't make it harder to do it just gives them another data source.
133[2018-03-31 19:55:21] <fnlkj> the cops should have some classes in psychology n such..\ bt ya,right
134[2018-03-31 19:55:21] <_W_> which is not inaccurate, but is, against their instinct, made harder by hard evidence
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137[2018-03-31 19:58:51] <+modulus> !randquote
138[2018-03-31 19:58:51] <lysenko> Quote 3753 by meowschwitz: <thecha> MarkovChainz do you think donald will be in peach?
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148[2018-03-31 21:45:48] <_W_> might be mixing them with someone else though
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150[2018-03-31 21:46:07] <+modulus> Interesting version but the lyrics are very quiet.
151[2018-03-31 21:46:55] <_W_> "If you want to put us in a political category, we're on the left side, and that's the reason we made the song"
152[2018-03-31 21:47:16] <+modulus> w: good to know i don't have to protect myself from fash influences.
153[2018-03-31 21:47:39] <+modulus> oh that's a nice use of the organ to reproduce the synth line
154[2018-03-31 21:48:15] <+modulus> what's rammstein's genre, technically?
155[2018-03-31 21:48:18] <+modulus> metal, punk?
156[2018-03-31 21:48:45] <_W_> NDH according to Wikipedia, subgenre of rock
157[2018-03-31 21:48:59] <+modulus> hmm i guess
158[2018-03-31 21:49:10] <_W_> rock influenced by metal and techno
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161[2018-03-31 22:01:03] <+modulus> !randuoqte
162[2018-03-31 22:01:06] <+modulus> !randquote
163[2018-03-31 22:01:06] <lysenko> Quote 3176 by modulus: <modulus> lucky: you like wagner? | <lucky> modulus: In the sense that one might enjoy a temper tantrum in a perverse way, sure.
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165[2018-03-31 22:01:14] <+modulus> haha
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170[2018-03-31 22:07:50] <lupine> everything is influenced by everything else
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174[2018-03-31 22:09:03] <beatdown> I fist fucked Hillary Clinton with brass knuckles.
175[2018-03-31 22:10:54] <+modulus> i wouldn't aprticularly recommend
176[2018-03-31 22:10:58] <+Xenolith> so edgy
177[2018-03-31 22:10:59] <+modulus> like what would be tthe point
178[2018-03-31 22:11:34] <+modulus> lupine: but if we don't have a trillion subgenres how do we distinguish neovapourwave from retrosynthmathrock?
179[2018-03-31 22:12:44] <lupine> we don't
180[2018-03-31 22:12:47] <lupine> we live together in harmony instead
181[2018-03-31 22:14:56] <+modulus> lupine: fight me irl
182[2018-03-31 22:15:15] <+modulus> or, never mind, we may as well have sex.
183[2018-03-31 22:15:38] <Cowclops> i made bill clinton watch me fuck hillary clinton oh so tenderly
184[2018-03-31 22:15:48] <Cowclops> #howweirdcanweget
185[2018-03-31 22:16:31] <+macrobat> maybe rammsteins aesthetics is fashy
186[2018-03-31 22:17:13] <+modulus> macrobat: do you think it is?
187[2018-03-31 22:18:43] <Cowclops> i don't want to blow anyone's mind or anything but i think i made a perfect metaphor for politics (at least, american politics) out of super mario kart
188[2018-03-31 22:18:50] <+macrobat> not seriously. more like flesh humans are worth nothing. violence and suffering being cleansing. such themes
189[2018-03-31 22:19:17] <Cowclops> the GOP thinks any success or failures are solely your own doing and thinks succesful people should be rewarded with more success. That is to say, the 1st place kart should get speed boosts, bananas, and red shells as a reward for being "good"
190[2018-03-31 22:19:30] <Cowclops> And that its the last place car's fault they suck so they should get shitty power ups as a punishment
191[2018-03-31 22:19:33] <lupine> it's not rammstein-specific. everything harder than alanis morissette has increasing degrees of fash presentation
192[2018-03-31 22:19:45] <Cowclops> In turn, making super mario kart a boring shitfest for anyone who isn't WINNING
193[2018-03-31 22:19:50] <+macrobat> swedish band Raubtier feels fashy. not in any concrete way. very idiotic nonsense lyrics
194[2018-03-31 22:20:26] <Cowclops> Democrats want the economic system to be more like how mario kart ACTUALLY is - last place racers get blue shells and shit to help even out the skill in the race. First place racers mostly just get coins or other weaker power ups
195[2018-03-31 22:20:51] <Cowclops> The problem is, poor people are enticed to vote against their self interest because, despite being in last place, they're deathly afraid that if they were ever IN first place, they don't want to be hit by a blue shell from a last place player
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197[2018-03-31 22:21:06] <Cowclops> which is insane and ensures they stay in last place aka poor
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201[2018-03-31 22:21:32] <+modulus> hehe
202[2018-03-31 22:21:48] <Cowclops> You know, the temporarily embarassed millionare theory
203[2018-03-31 22:21:52] <+modulus> lupine: but red can be hard too
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205[2018-03-27 16:41:37] <guideX> it can become dangerous on return missions if there's no one there
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207[2018-03-27 16:41:53] <Omega037> the ISS does some interesting scientific research, but not that important or economically valuable
208[2018-03-27 16:41:56] <guideX> uncertainty on if systems are operating and that kind of thing
209[2018-03-27 16:42:08] <Omega037> and frankly, you could do most of it with robotics if you really wanted to
210[2018-03-27 16:42:39] <Omega037> plus, its really close to being ISIS
211[2018-03-27 16:42:45] <guideX> haha
212[2018-03-27 16:42:56] <sscout> Omega037: that leads to Universal Basic Incomes, that robotics heresy
213[2018-03-27 16:42:58] <sscout> :P
214[2018-03-27 16:43:13] <guideX> perhaps they should rename it to the trump space station or something, jk
215[2018-03-27 16:43:21] <jrawson> Also the Terminator timeline.
216[2018-03-27 16:43:44] <jrawson> guideX: Are you kidding? All of the gold plating required would be a huge expense.
217[2018-03-27 16:44:14] <Omega037> i mean, we can debate automation if we want, but space is an area where automation is VASTLY superior
218[2018-03-27 16:44:32] <jellyb> what are you talking about
219[2018-03-27 16:44:53] <jellyb> by space you mean launch vehicles?
220[2018-03-27 16:45:07] <guideX> I think trump station wouldn't do so much environmental research, but more a spot to gamble and buy mcdonalds hamburgers
221[2018-03-27 16:45:10] <sscout> Omega037: it would probably be a lot cheaper to set something up on the moon than have it floating around Earth needing refueling every couple of years. Also safer vis-a-vis space debris
222[2018-03-27 16:45:27] <guideX> also less international, because you know, 'merica
223[2018-03-27 16:45:34] <jrawson> guideX: And get a fairly high dose of radiation.
224[2018-03-27 16:45:43] <jellyb> there will be a space force
225[2018-03-27 16:45:55] <jellyb> and they will defend the countrys space assets
226[2018-03-27 16:45:57] <Omega037> jellyb, im saying that replacing humans in space with robots
227[2018-03-27 16:46:12] <Omega037> has massive benefits
228[2018-03-27 16:46:15] <jellyb> from so called 'space debris' which are actually weaponised
229[2018-03-27 16:46:22] <Omega037> replacing on Earth there is a larger debate
230[2018-03-27 16:46:36] <jellyb> that much is clear, on account of the unfriendly environment
231[2018-03-27 16:46:47] <jellyb> inhospitable
232[2018-03-27 16:47:12] <guideX> yes, there will be a space farce
233[2018-03-27 16:47:17] <guideX> ahem ahem, force*
234[2018-03-27 16:47:32] <sscout> guideX: we WILL have Star Wars!
235[2018-03-27 16:47:40] <sscout> John Bolton signed up just for that
236[2018-03-27 16:48:20] <Omega037> i mean, Bolton isnt actually in office yet
237[2018-03-27 16:50:38] <sscout> surprise twist: John Bolton accidentally outed as a Cylon
238[2018-03-27 16:50:51] <+Sabotender> greetings all
239[2018-03-27 16:50:51] <jellyb> bolton is just a signal
240[2018-03-27 16:50:53] <sscout> Trump forced to admit affair with FuckingMachines
241[2018-03-27 16:51:06] <jellyb> its 4d chess
242[2018-03-27 16:51:33] <jellyb> he makes people think hes happy to go to war
243[2018-03-27 16:51:42] <delboy1978uk> sex robots from trump tower 3
244[2018-03-27 16:52:53] <delboy1978uk> "come to trump tower, where even the showers are golden"
245[2018-03-27 16:53:21] <jellyb> that dossier was a fraud
246[2018-03-27 16:53:38] <jellyb> there is no evidence trump was peed on in that russian hotel
247[2018-03-27 16:53:38] <delboy1978uk> a beleivable one though haha
248[2018-03-27 16:55:04] <DaScoot> the dossier didn't claim he was
249[2018-03-27 16:56:01] <jellyb> and even if he did get peed on
250[2018-03-27 16:56:34] <jellyb> are liberals going to support lgbts and judge trump
251[2018-03-27 16:56:53] <jellyb> would be extremely hypocritical
252[2018-03-27 16:57:32] <DaScoot> the pee part gets a lot of attention because of 'ooh sex thing' but really it's the least interesting part of the whole thing
253[2018-03-27 16:58:12] <+kunwon1> jellyb: you were warned about being a troll, now you are being banned, have a nice day
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259[2018-03-27 16:58:56] <Cuckoo> lol
260[2018-03-27 16:59:05] <Cuckoo> i didnt even reply because i could smell the troll
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262[2018-04-12 16:53:25] <+mythomaniac> or fair
263[2018-04-12 16:53:33] <+bougyman> And why the heck did the U.S. veto the U.N. investigators going there to validate the chemical weapons use?
264[2018-04-12 16:53:39] <+bougyman> Seriously sketchy.
265[2018-04-12 16:54:13] <+mythomaniac> its part if the plan
266[2018-04-12 16:55:14] <kitties> https://www.thedailybeast.com/james-comey-john-kelly-called-trump-dishonorable-for-firing-me
267[2018-04-12 16:55:15] <+subtitle> [ James Comey: John Kelly Called Trump ‘Dishonorable’ For Firing Me ]
268[2018-04-12 16:55:24] <+kuber> bougyman: because republicans have a blind hatred of the UN. they are basically using the starve-the-beast strategy against the UN. deny them any kind of meaningful role in anyting.
269[2018-04-12 16:55:33] <+mythomaniac> Trump has sad he will make his decision on what to do with Syria today
270[2018-04-12 16:55:41] <+kuber> mythomaniac: oh?
271[2018-04-12 16:55:48] <+mythomaniac> said*
272[2018-04-12 16:55:51] <+kuber> trump is against the wall, he'll bomb them
273[2018-04-12 16:56:00] <guideX> he also said he would strike syria in 24-48 hours
274[2018-04-12 16:56:03] <guideX> also covfefe
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277[2018-04-12 16:57:38] <xau> some lucid understandings are attainable but inexpressible
278[2018-04-12 16:57:51] <xau> lucid understanding of the Syrian diplomatic, military, and geo-political equation approaches this standard
279[2018-04-12 16:57:57] <+kuber> bougyman: though you are being a bit disingenious, or are not fully informed - us voted against the russian un proposal - but voted in favor of the proposal authored by us/france/uk.
280[2018-04-12 16:58:13] <xau> it's hard to know what to make of it even if you are in the know
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282[2018-04-12 16:58:47] <+MikeSeth> !randquote
283[2018-04-12 16:58:47] <lysenko> Quote 3712 by kunwon1: <pnint> you had the cool parents lupine <lupine> I will swim the north sea and end you
284[2018-04-12 16:58:54] <+kuber> the russian proposal was toothles
285[2018-04-12 16:59:15] <+kuber> said 'sure have an investigation but leave the decision of blame to the sec council (where we have a veto!)'
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287[2018-04-12 17:00:01] <+mythomaniac> kuber if we want to hold trump to his word... yes... today http://fortune.com/2018/04/09/donald-trump-syria-plans/
288[2018-04-12 17:00:02] <+subtitle> [ Donald Trump Plans 'Major Decisions' on Syria | Fortune ]
289[2018-04-12 17:00:25] <+kuber> mythomaniac: thx
290[2018-04-12 17:00:30] <+mythomaniac> np
291[2018-04-12 17:00:42] <+kuber> bolton is probably in there pushing for use of tactical nukes
292[2018-04-12 17:02:44] <+mythomaniac> yep
293[2018-04-12 17:02:52] <+mythomaniac> i love bolton
294[2018-04-12 17:02:59] <+mythomaniac> i love trump
295[2018-04-12 17:03:09] <+mythomaniac> this awesome
296[2018-04-12 17:03:44] <+kuber> lol.
297[2018-04-12 17:03:57] <+mythomaniac> ;)
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300[2018-04-12 17:21:02] <lupine> oh hey, a good quote
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303[2018-04-12 17:26:09] <goiko> https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-us-defense-secretary-says-us-doesnt-have-proof-chlorine-sarin-used-in-syria/
304[2018-04-12 17:26:10] <+subtitle> [ Breaking: US Defense Secretary says US doesn't have proof chlorine, sarin used in Syria ]
305[2018-04-12 17:27:21] <+kuber> dont worry they'll find it
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307[2018-04-12 17:29:12] <DaScoot> honestly we're probably past that
308[2018-04-12 17:29:23] <DaScoot> we don't even need to fake up intelligence reports or anything now
309[2018-04-12 17:29:30] <DaScoot> just have Fox say it
310[2018-04-12 17:29:48] <+kuber> new us weapons inspector, lou dobbs
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319[2018-04-06 23:07:05] <+jrg> but most seats are in urban areas because of population density
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321[2018-04-06 23:07:33] <+jrg> so political “friends” will get pissed too
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323[2018-04-06 23:11:18] <lupine> there are always plenty of people who can't see their own self-interest clearly
324[2018-04-06 23:11:38] <lupine> but in the short term, it doesn't matter. the rich have the poor by the danglies
325[2018-04-06 23:11:48] <lupine> I don't know how many successful cases of union-breaking we need to see to demonstrate this
326[2018-04-06 23:11:55] <+jrg> kitties: sorry. tangent. my point is that people will start asking why rich people who have amazon prime can get stuff on sunday but they can’t. they’ll argue economic disparity with the post office.
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328[2018-04-06 23:12:22] <kitties> that's a fair point.
329[2018-04-06 23:13:38] <+jrg> some teary eyed single mother crying that her kid didn’t get a christmas gift she worked 3 jobs to get on time because she ordered it from walmart and not amazon prime because she couldn’t afford a prime account.
330[2018-04-06 23:14:13] <kitties> i'm not 100% sure why i even have prime
331[2018-04-06 23:14:20] <kitties> amazon.ca prime is pretty worthless
332[2018-04-06 23:14:23] <+evolv> same thing for me with netflix
333[2018-04-06 23:14:25] <+evolv> I barely use it
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335[2018-04-06 23:14:33] <kitties> i watch a lot of netflix content tho
336[2018-04-06 23:14:33] <+jrg> b roll of happy rich white people walking outside with christmas smiles and a usps truck in the frame.
337[2018-04-06 23:15:10] <+jrg> i already see it coming lol
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340[2018-04-06 23:15:58] <+jrg> then our awesome reactionary government will find a way to equalize it with debt.
341[2018-04-06 23:16:12] <+jrg> and the amazon deal will run in the red
342[2018-04-06 23:16:24] <+evolv> https://i.imgur.com/rQ72V8Z.jpg
343[2018-04-06 23:17:17] <+jrg> they’ll give it a trendy name like the equal rights delivery act
344[2018-04-06 23:17:59] • kitties: hands out soros bucks to everyone
345[2018-04-06 23:18:06] <+jrg> lol
346[2018-04-06 23:18:41] <+jrg> Soros will start using btc only to hide his billions of tax evaded money :)
347[2018-04-06 23:18:44] <kitties> another day, another ethical violation from the trump admin: https://thinkprogress.org/ivanka-trump-clothing-tariffs-437840f07b83/
348[2018-04-06 23:18:45] <+subtitle> [ Ivanka Trump’s clothing company will be spared from tariffs, thanks to her dad – ThinkProgress ]
349[2018-04-06 23:18:57] <+jrg> kitties: wow hahahaha
350[2018-04-06 23:19:10] <+jrg> that can’t be true
351[2018-04-06 23:19:24] <+kunwon1> how could it possibly be untrue
352[2018-04-06 23:19:27] <+kunwon1> given what we know about trump
353[2018-04-06 23:19:40] <+jrg> kunwon1: yah. haha. that’s a fair point
354[2018-04-06 23:20:00] <+jrg> that’s so messed up you can’t help but laugh
355[2018-04-06 23:20:40] <kitties> i can't even laugh
356[2018-04-06 23:20:43] <kitties> i'm too worn out
357[2018-04-06 23:21:56] <kitties> https://www.theonion.com/you-people-made-me-give-up-my-peanut-farm-before-i-got-1819585048
358[2018-04-06 23:21:56] <+subtitle> [ You People Made Me Give Up My Peanut Farm Before I Got To Be President ]
359[2018-04-06 23:22:41] <_kmh_> kitties,  geez
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362[2018-04-06 23:30:36] <methods_> https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/04/06/blake-farenthold-resigns-abruptly-congress
363[2018-04-06 23:30:37] <+subtitle> [ Blake Farenthold resigns abruptly from Congress after revelations of lewd and abusive behavior | Politics | Dallas News ]
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366[2018-04-06 23:50:10] <+modulus> I hear this video is amusing: https://gfycat.com/GargantuanRegalAsiaticlesserfreshwaterclam
367[2018-04-06 23:50:11] <+subtitle> [ Gfycat GIFs GIF | Create, Discover and Share on Gfycat ]
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373[2018-04-06 23:54:39] <+kunwon1> subtle, innit
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376[2018-01-22 23:07:44] <+subtitle> [ 1 in 8 children in California schools have an undocumented parent – Daily News ]
377[2018-01-22 23:08:09] <+jrg> just going off of that it makes you wonder how many of those children are “dreamers” .. yes it says 1 in 8 have ONE but that means how many have 2?
378[2018-01-22 23:08:59] <lupine> I expect it means one+
379[2018-01-22 23:09:04] <+jrg> imagine the class sizes if 20% of the children disappear from an overcrowded classroom.
380[2018-01-22 23:09:25] <lupine> Imagine the class sizes if schools are funded enouhh
381[2018-01-22 23:09:31] <lupine> Idiot
382[2018-01-22 23:09:59] <lupine> Here, we have high immigration and class sizes of 2-15
383[2018-01-22 23:10:09] <lupine> Suck on it
384[2018-01-22 23:10:09] <+macrobat> better if immigrants have citizenship and rights. they will be slightly less taken advantage of. by employers, landlords, others they come in contact with
385[2018-01-22 23:10:13] <+jrg> lol
386[2018-01-22 23:10:22] <+jrg> sure you do
387[2018-01-22 23:10:33] <lupine> Welcome to Shetland, bitch
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389[2018-01-22 23:10:41] <+macrobat> having some modicum of workplace safety etc etc
390[2018-01-22 23:10:42] <guideX> macrobat: I think they should have the path to citizenship, so they can do everything real americans can do
391[2018-01-22 23:10:47] <guideX> easier+quicker patjh
392[2018-01-22 23:10:54] <lupine> If we get to <2 , the school is mothballed until someone is birthes
393[2018-01-22 23:10:56] <lupine> No kiddong
394[2018-01-22 23:11:00] <lupine> Damn phone
395[2018-01-22 23:11:11] <lupine> U sketchy
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398[2018-01-22 23:11:59] <+macrobat> my 1st to 6th grade class was 10 pupils
399[2018-01-22 23:12:09] <lupine> "Immigrants make bad things worse" is as true as "native-born children male bad things worse"
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401[2018-01-22 23:12:24] <lupine> Make. Fuck.
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403[2018-01-22 23:12:47] <+macrobat> one of the pupils had a norwegian parent. very exotic
404[2018-01-22 23:13:03] <lupine> Rawr
405[2018-01-22 23:13:22] <lupine> I have a Norway fetish
406[2018-01-22 23:13:31] <lupine> Dat sovereign wealth fund
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408[2018-01-22 23:13:40] <guideX> lupine: you notice, there's always an unspoken connotation that the immigrants won't make things better?
409[2018-01-22 23:13:54] <lupine> You know Norwegians have so little debt, they can't use QE?
410[2018-01-22 23:14:14] <lupine> guideX: people often imply so, but I have not found it to be true
411[2018-01-22 23:14:29] <lupine> Immigration here is almost uniformly positive
412[2018-01-22 23:14:43] <+macrobat> is your fetish strong enough for suspicious sausages? https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrp%C3%B8lse#/media/File:Morrp%C3%B8lse.jpg
413[2018-01-22 23:14:44] <+subtitle> [ Morrpølse – Wikipedia ]
414[2018-01-22 23:14:54] <lupine> For sure
415[2018-01-22 23:15:33] <lupine> What's in it?
416[2018-01-22 23:17:01] <+macrobat> oh, I read now that there are many variants. mutton, game, pork, or horse
417[2018-01-22 23:17:36] <lupine> Sounds good
418[2018-01-22 23:18:01] <lupine> Horse makes damn good salamis
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422[2018-01-22 23:20:17] <+macrobat> since article is behind paywall; twitter thread from journo about swedish crime https://twitter.com/bopanc/status/955051953935052801
423[2018-01-22 23:20:19] <+subtitle> [ Bojan Pancevski: “My dispatch from #Sweden, which is experiencing an unprecedented surge in shootings, bombings and sexual crime. The crisis is mainly restricted to areas predominantly populated by immigrants, so ordinary Swedes read the news with disbelief: https://t.co/5aAPKTs044” ]
424[2018-01-22 23:20:53] <lupine> Yay, journalism
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431[2018-01-22 23:21:27] <+macrobat> it's so-so, he gets some criticism
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433[2018-01-23 15:58:16] <DaScoot> I spent way too long in school
434[2018-01-23 15:58:28] <DaScoot> I liked it up til college, but never going back
435[2018-01-23 15:59:01] <lupine> my first degree was taken in very precarious circumstances, with a strong odour of capitalist necessity
436[2018-01-23 15:59:07] <lupine> so I'm looking forward to this one more
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438[2018-01-23 16:01:53] <CosmicWitch> MikeSeth, lol
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449[2018-01-23 16:23:28] <guideX> DaScoot: at 37 I'm looking to go back to school, after being out since 2000
450[2018-01-23 16:23:46] <guideX> to pickup that second skill
451[2018-01-23 16:27:43] <CosmicWitch> IM STILL SOBER
452[2018-01-23 16:27:45] <CosmicWitch> grrrrrr
453[2018-01-23 16:27:51] <CosmicWitch> hi :(
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461[2018-01-23 16:55:31] <schwizz> hellow beautifuls
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465[2018-01-23 17:04:32] <oleo> elloh ugly
466[2018-01-23 17:04:42] <oleo> coyote
467[2018-01-23 17:04:44] <oleo> lol
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469[2018-01-23 17:08:57] <oerheks> I am gorgeous, my mom told me
470[2018-01-23 17:09:36] <oleo> prove it prove it
471[2018-01-23 17:09:38] <oleo> lol
472[2018-01-23 17:09:50] <oleo> i'm here waiting for you
473[2018-01-23 17:09:51] <oleo> hahahaha
474[2018-01-23 17:12:09] <oerheks> everybody know this, what planet are you from?
475[2018-01-23 17:15:38] <oleo> thank cats from the cat planet
476[2018-01-23 17:15:40] <oleo> lol
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486[2018-01-23 17:38:17] <+kunwon1> oh fuck
487[2018-01-23 17:38:21] <+kunwon1> MikeSeth goddammit
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511[2018-01-23 17:44:24] <+kuber> oh neat the special counsel interviewed sessions last week
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525[2018-01-23 17:48:50] <@kunwon1> thanks MikeSeth that's what i wanted to spend my lunch doing
526[2018-01-23 17:48:54] kunwon1 sets mode -o kunwon1
527[2018-01-23 17:50:16] <CosmicWitch> thanks MikeSeth
528[2018-01-23 17:50:22] <CosmicWitch> you are a hero among males
529[2018-01-23 17:50:26] <CosmicWitch> :D
530[2018-01-23 17:51:24] <+kunwon1> looks like i missed one
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540[2018-03-22 22:08:51] <+coffeeguy> from kaddafi
541[2018-03-22 22:09:39] <sangy> I mean it's very rude to take the bribes and then go kill the guy
542[2018-03-22 22:10:05] <sangy> I would give the guy 3 nazipugs out of 10 for that
543[2018-03-22 22:10:13] <+coffeeguy> lol
544[2018-03-22 22:10:49] <+coffeeguy> that poor dog
545[2018-03-22 22:10:53] <Sliffy> coffeeguy, what do you think of teaguy and sodaguy?
546[2018-03-22 22:11:08] <+coffeeguy> i for one do like tea and soda
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548[2018-03-22 22:11:27] <+coffeeguy> or how about Spliffy or Sluffy
549[2018-03-22 22:12:07] <+coffeeguy> welp the penis van hasn't moved
550[2018-03-22 22:12:52] <+coffeeguy> red van parked across the street for weeks, think a hooker is using it for the randavue point
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552[2018-03-22 22:14:01] <+coffeeguy> rondevue' sp
553[2018-03-22 22:14:22] <+coffeeguy> geez i want to move
554[2018-03-22 22:14:24] <+kunwon1> http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/marcos-breton/article206374859.html
555[2018-03-22 22:14:25] <+subtitle> [ You probably won’t be satisfied with how this Sacramento police shooting plays out | The Sacramento Bee ]
556[2018-03-22 22:14:49] <+coffeeguy> that's bad, cops fired 20 shots at one guy
557[2018-03-22 22:15:06] <sangy> what a waste of bullets
558[2018-03-22 22:15:39] <+coffeeguy> remind me if i'm ever in sac. not to raise my cell phone in the air
559[2018-03-22 22:15:53] <+kunwon1> coffeeguy: you really only need to worry about that if you're not white
560[2018-03-22 22:16:56] <fChanX> That statement is incorrect, and divisive. ¬.¬
561[2018-03-22 22:17:14] <+coffeeguy> yah that's pretty fucked up, being black means  that police treat you that way
562[2018-03-22 22:18:06] <+coffeeguy> as soon as they put their flashlights on the man they yell gun
563[2018-03-22 22:18:15] <+kunwon1> fChanX: just being non-white in america makes you three times as likely to get shot by police
564[2018-03-22 22:18:22] <+coffeeguy> and unload a ton of bullets
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566[2018-03-22 22:18:35] <+kunwon1> that's the non-hyperbolic version of the statement
567[2018-03-22 22:18:50] <+coffeeguy> non-hyperbolic?
568[2018-03-22 22:19:03] • coffeeguy: googles
569[2018-03-22 22:19:04] markovchain (~markovcha@c-73-163-179-46.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) joined the channel
570[2018-03-22 22:19:12] <+kunwon1> when i say 'you only need to worry about police if you are not white' i am using hyperbole
571[2018-03-22 22:19:17] <sangy> coffeeguy: as in, it isn't a planar cut of a cone
572[2018-03-22 22:19:17] <+kunwon1> exaggeration that is not meant to be taken literally
573[2018-03-22 22:19:50] <+coffeeguy> oh ok
574[2018-03-22 22:19:59] <fChanX> Sometimes it is hard to know these days. :(
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576[2018-03-22 22:20:39] <fChanX> Division is what I fear over all. All suffer under division, and nothing productive gets done peacefully.
577[2018-03-22 22:20:43] <+coffeeguy> hey kunwon1 what is swoolley's mandate for this channel? his goals?
578[2018-03-22 22:21:25] <+coffeeguy> sometimes i wonder if it's just a test bed for killbot lol
579[2018-03-22 22:21:43] republican_devil (~g@209.6.150.53) joined the channel
580[2018-03-22 22:21:44] <guideX> they're trying to create a product, we're the guinepigs
581[2018-03-22 22:21:44] <+coffeeguy> so many lurkers
582[2018-03-22 22:21:48] <guideX> jk
583[2018-03-22 22:21:53] <republican_devil> how about lowering gov spending and deregulating?
584[2018-03-22 22:21:55] <+coffeeguy> so much trolling
585[2018-03-22 22:21:56] <republican_devil> :)
586[2018-03-22 22:22:14] <+macrobat> tax the trolls. hard
587[2018-03-22 22:22:19] ChanServ sets mode +o kunwon1
588[2018-03-22 22:22:20] <+coffeeguy> i can't say i'm a better or worse person for being here
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593[2018-03-22 22:22:35] <spruit11> Twitter is trying to sell me `Magnetotherapy Boxers` for less money.
594[2018-03-22 22:22:39] <spruit11> Put magnets on your dick.
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596[2018-01-27 15:26:24] • Dysklyver: eats OhPie 
597[2018-01-27 15:26:32] <Dysklyver> and drinks warm water
598[2018-01-27 15:26:37] <Dysklyver> :D
599[2018-01-27 15:26:39] • OhPie: chucks out a jam - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1ljpLQ1V6Y
600[2018-01-27 15:26:40] <+subtitle> [ Sade - Your Love Is King (Official Video) - 3M 38S ]
601[2018-01-27 15:27:09] <OhPie> being great is being small
602[2018-01-27 15:27:50] • Dysklyver: peers at a great tit chirping in the garden
603[2018-01-27 15:28:12] <+Hoffman> OhPie: idk whats up with ye but I hope you get the help you need
604[2018-01-27 15:28:23] <+Hoffman> I'm pretty sure you're just bored and trolling though
605[2018-01-27 15:28:24] <Cowclops> He would not want talk to mueller under oath because he is a pathological liar
606[2018-01-27 15:28:29] <Cowclops> and lying under oath is illegal
607[2018-01-27 15:28:36] <Cowclops> Like, he wants to because he's stupid but his lawyers don't want him to
608[2018-01-27 15:29:14] <+Hoffman> ohpie
609[2018-01-27 15:29:16] <+modulus> aren't presidents immune anyway?
610[2018-01-27 15:29:25] <R13ose> Cowclops: would the lie detector blow up like Homer's did?
611[2018-01-27 15:29:53] <OhPie> I'm willing to put my thought into your face
612[2018-01-27 15:30:25] <OhPie> raise your hand if you write?
613[2018-01-27 15:30:53] • Dysklyver: does
614[2018-01-27 15:31:01] • OhPie: hugs
615[2018-01-27 15:31:17] <+Hoffman> OhPie: I'm not sure you're acting with integrity right now. Are you?
616[2018-01-27 15:31:26] <Dysklyver> i dunno
617[2018-01-27 15:31:53] <OhPie> I'm fully a BONE HARD ORIGINAL Quaker
618[2018-01-27 15:32:14] <Dysklyver> do you like oats?
619[2018-01-27 15:32:17] <+Hoffman> OhPie: are you acting with integrity?
620[2018-01-27 15:32:20] <Dysklyver> I always wondered
621[2018-01-27 15:32:30] <+modulus> oats are bad raw
622[2018-01-27 15:32:32] <OhPie> I am always true to my fingertips
623[2018-01-27 15:32:37] <+Hoffman> oh
624[2018-01-27 15:32:37] <+modulus> only good way i know to eat oats is oat cakes.
625[2018-01-27 15:32:38] <+Hoffman> [09:12:22] OhPie I like people like Cowclops; they think I have integrity :D
626[2018-01-27 15:32:40] <+Hoffman> cuz here
627[2018-01-27 15:32:44] <+Hoffman> you're admitting to trolling
628[2018-01-27 15:33:09] <OhPie> doubt
629[2018-01-27 15:33:27] <Dysklyver> oat cakes are nice
630[2018-01-27 15:33:34] <OhPie> do you lead people?
631[2018-01-27 15:33:46] <+Hoffman> like shoot them with lead bullets?
632[2018-01-27 15:34:03] <OhPie> no; like lead them into better ways of thinking
633[2018-01-27 15:34:12] <+Hoffman> like the socratic method?
634[2018-01-27 15:34:14] <OhPie> do you?
635[2018-01-27 15:34:17] <+Hoffman> ?
636[2018-01-27 15:34:26] <OhPie> no like pie method
637[2018-01-27 15:34:30] Inimesekene (~textual@29-163-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee) left IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
638[2018-01-27 15:34:51] <OhPie> who doesn't enjoy pie
639[2018-01-27 15:34:53] <+Hoffman> OhPie: you admitted to trolling, so if you think Im going to take time to *seriously* respond to your nonsense, you are mistaken
640[2018-01-27 15:35:03] <OhPie> Yuo win
641[2018-01-27 15:35:14] <OhPie> you win
642[2018-01-27 15:35:24] <OhPie> now .. where are we?
643[2018-01-27 15:35:45] <OhPie> it takes time to absorb those things I typed before.
644[2018-01-27 15:35:53] <OhPie> I forgive you.
645[2018-01-27 15:36:03] ChanServ sets mode +o kunwon1
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649[2018-01-27 15:36:46] <+modulus> scottish oats, mediterranean olive oil.
650[2018-01-27 15:36:52] <+modulus> result, delicious oat cakes.
651[2018-01-27 15:37:08] <+modulus> also and for the record, i prefer coarse oat cakes to fine.
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654[2018-03-23 16:06:33] <DaScoot> that guy seems to have a pretty good sense of humor about losing what I would assume is his star attraction
655[2018-03-23 16:06:50] <DaScoot> maybe now he can get an updated version with feathers :P
656[2018-03-23 16:07:01] <cata-doxas> the rock?
657[2018-03-23 16:07:12] <cata-doxas> dudes insane, even if he uses steroids
658[2018-03-23 16:07:14] <cata-doxas> hes almost 50
659[2018-03-23 16:07:18] <cata-doxas> and I mean look at him
660[2018-03-23 16:07:30] <cata-doxas> (im not saying he does I have no idea)
661[2018-03-23 16:07:34] <DaScoot> if the rock burst into flames would anyone be surprised
662[2018-03-23 16:07:57] <cata-doxas> joe rogan said about him
663[2018-03-23 16:08:03] <cata-doxas> he literally gets up at 4:30
664[2018-03-23 16:08:07] <cata-doxas> everyday to start working out
665[2018-03-23 16:08:11] <cata-doxas> wtf kind of life is this
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667[2018-03-23 16:08:39] <DaScoot> when I have time off, my natural sleep schedule seems to be about 2am-10am
668[2018-03-23 16:08:44] <DaScoot> I don't think 4:30 exists
669[2018-03-23 16:08:54] <cata-doxas> oh I dont think it should be a time
670[2018-03-23 16:08:56] <cata-doxas> more of a warcrime
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694[2018-03-23 16:36:59] <+kunwon1> jellyb: if you don't stop being a troll and stop insulting people, you will be banned without further warning
695[2018-03-23 16:40:19] <+MikeSeth> wait
696[2018-03-23 16:40:20] <+MikeSeth> what
697[2018-03-23 16:41:28] <Ezma> i've heard worse being said by kunwon1 XD
698[2018-03-23 16:41:57] <+MikeSeth> I am the only qualified troll here
699[2018-03-23 16:42:01] <+kunwon1> Ezma: don't comment on channel moderation
700[2018-03-23 16:42:25] <Ezma> if thats how its gonna be, why should any one be here?
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711[2018-03-21 00:19:24] <kitties> yet another bomb in austin
712[2018-03-21 00:19:34] <kitties> https://twitter.com/ATCEMS/status/976249771236188160
713[2018-03-21 00:19:35] <+subtitle> [ ATCEMS: “Multiple assets from #ATCEMS @austinfiredept @Austin_Police responding Brodie Ln/W Slaughter Ln (1902) reported explosion with reports of one patient injured. Unknown severity of injuries at this time. Avoid the area and expect closures. More to follow.” ]
714[2018-03-21 00:19:37] <lucky> someone's having fun
715[2018-03-21 00:20:09] <kitties> i have friends down there who are kinda freaking out
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717[2018-03-21 00:20:10] <lucky> kitties: they found a bomb earlier but it hadn't detonated
718[2018-03-21 00:20:22] <lucky> so that's 3 in two days, at a minimum
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720[2018-03-21 00:21:08] <lucky> oh, two packages intercepted
721[2018-03-21 00:21:09] <lucky> so four
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725[2018-03-21 00:23:06] <oerheks> some do anything to get their own wiki-page
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729[2018-03-21 00:28:08] <kitties> hm, the most recent explosion is only 4 miles from one of the locations a bomb was fedex'd from
730[2018-03-21 00:28:33] <kitties> 3.4* miles
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734[2018-03-21 00:40:04] <+cloee>  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-oversaw-cambridge-analyticas-collection-of-facebook-data-according-to-former-employee/2018/03/20/8fb369a6-2c55-11e8-b0b0-f706877db618_story.html?utm_term=.5e3824a376e3
735[2018-03-21 00:40:05] <+subtitle> [ Bannon oversaw Cambridge Analytica’s collection of Facebook data, according to former employee - The Washington Post ]
736[2018-03-21 00:40:45] <oerheks> yeah, all over CNN too .. https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/20/politics/alexander-nix-cambridge-analytica/index.html
737[2018-03-21 00:40:46] <+subtitle> [ Cambridge Analytica suspends CEO Alexander Nix after undercover recordings air - CNNPolitics ]
738[2018-03-21 00:43:18] knowkids (~AndChat23@82.102.28.107) joined the channel
739[2018-03-21 00:43:34] <knowkids> where can I know kids in the biblical sense?
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741[2018-03-21 00:43:56] <knowkids> meat
742[2018-03-21 00:44:25] <knowkids> kunwon1 let's trade child porn
743[2018-03-21 00:44:27] <+cloee> The firm also tested views of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
744[2018-03-21 00:44:27] <+cloee> “The only foreign thing we tested was Putin,” he said. “It turns out, there’s a lot of Americans who really like this idea of a really strong authoritarian leader and people were quite defensive in focus groups of Putin’s invasion of Crimea.”
745[2018-03-21 00:44:46] <knowkids> I have a child in my custody I can do a live rape right now
746[2018-03-21 00:44:57] <oerheks> ...
747[2018-03-21 00:45:00] <knowkids> I also have AIDS
748[2018-03-21 00:45:08] <knowkids> and I'm racist
749[2018-03-21 00:45:19] <+cloee> per Chris Wylie
750[2018-03-21 00:45:24] <oerheks> let me guess, in Austin?
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769[2018-03-21 15:54:58] <lucky> Well, i think you can address it that way
770[2018-03-21 15:55:05] <_kmh_> pokmo,  not happy but that's acceptable
771[2018-03-21 15:55:15] <lucky> a client/citizen-owned credit union is far less likely to sell information like that
772[2018-03-21 15:55:36] <pokmo> how is it a capitalism though
773[2018-03-21 15:55:46] <pokmo> if it was communism, your data could still be misused
774[2018-03-21 15:55:47] <_kmh_> pokmo,  the local data to be generated where you are a registered cunstomer is unavoidable
775[2018-03-21 15:55:55] <pokmo> and has been
776[2018-03-21 15:56:11] <pokmo> _kmh_ like facebook?
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778[2018-03-21 15:56:22] <_kmh_> pokmo,  however the whosale selling and sharing of different data sets is avaoidable and undesirable
779[2018-03-21 15:56:31] <_kmh_> pokmo,  like face book
780[2018-03-21 15:56:41] <lucky> however if it's smaller, decentralized, and run by people who are directly affected by the outcome...
781[2018-03-21 15:57:07] <lucky> the incentives and consequences are different from large scale, centralized and profit-motivated where the actions do not directly affect the workers carrying out the tasks
782[2018-03-21 15:57:09] <_kmh_> pokmo, the biggest problems arise if you combine various database to profile people
783[2018-03-21 15:57:10] <pokmo> see, that's the thing, i seriously don't see why zuckerberg would want to share/wholesale fb's own data
784[2018-03-21 15:57:28] <guideX> imo the question isn't about data, the question is about size, the size of facebook and google and the rest, and the data they hold is too big and volitile, so imo the real question is, do you want to start pulling at these companies which are holding down inflation?
785[2018-03-21 15:57:29] <lucky> pokmo: he/they are not smart enough or specialized enough to use it
786[2018-03-21 15:57:32] <lucky> it's google that holds on
787[2018-03-21 15:57:35] <_kmh_> each of the single database usually gives just a rather incomplete disconnected profile
788[2018-03-21 15:57:37] <lucky> and never lets a single drop of their data out
789[2018-03-21 15:57:40] <pokmo> that's trimming away their own competitive advantage
790[2018-03-21 15:58:08] <pokmo> they could still be just as happy if they keep their data closed and handle the allocation of ads
791[2018-03-21 15:58:26] <pokmo> which makes up a large chunk of their revenue anyway
792[2018-03-21 15:58:27] <_kmh_> pokmo,  i really don't care what zuckerberg wants, it matters what facebook in practice does (intentional or unintentional)
793[2018-03-21 15:58:59] <_kmh_> pokmo,  also there is a difference between longterm and shortterm rvenue
794[2018-03-21 15:58:59] <lucky> Mass social manipulation with AI.  It's too sci-fi-ish for me.
795[2018-03-21 15:59:08] <lucky> Anyone want to move to Antarctica ?
796[2018-03-21 15:59:15] <guideX> me me
797[2018-03-21 15:59:22] <guideX> well, for 6 months or so
798[2018-03-21 15:59:40] <_kmh_> lucky,  currently we're  threatened to create "dumb" ai
799[2018-03-21 15:59:42] <pokmo> it's floating closer as we speak
800[2018-03-21 15:59:50] <_kmh_> by feeding it skewed data sets
801[2018-03-21 16:00:06] <_kmh_> its like indoctrinating children with prejudice
802[2018-03-21 16:00:31] <lucky> _kmh_: I'm not entirely dissuaded by the spontaneous generation hypothesis, where a sufficiently complex information processing system enters some sort of feedback loop and complex emergent intelligent properties arise
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806[2018-03-21 16:00:50] <lucky> 40 years ago it seemed laughable given the capabilities of computers, even 20 years ago
807[2018-03-21 16:00:51] <_kmh_> and the problem comes if that AI is then used for decision making (which increeasingly becomes the case)
808[2018-03-21 16:01:05] <lucky> quadrillions of operations per second billions of terabytes of data is not far away
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810[2018-03-21 16:01:20] <_kmh_> you'll get a new underclass of people unselected/deselected by AI
811[2018-03-21 16:01:22] <lucky> and it'll be a Russian bot :p
812[2018-03-21 16:01:24] <pokmo> see, if you were an advertiser wanting to scrape FB, you make an app and pay for some ads
813[2018-03-21 16:01:37] <pokmo> how much ad money could that possibly generate...
814[2018-03-21 16:01:48] <lucky> oh, advertising actually works you see
815[2018-03-21 16:01:57] <lucky> so oh, $100 billion a year?
816[2018-03-21 16:02:05] <lucky> that's about the global internet advertising expenditure iirc
817[2018-03-21 16:02:13] <_kmh_> lucky,  i'm not talking about "real" intelligence, i'm talking about standard current machine learning
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821[2018-03-21 16:02:30] <lucky> _kmh_: me too, weird shit's gonna happen as side-effects
822[2018-03-21 16:02:38] <pokmo> you make some personality survey app, how much ad money would you throw in to get 270k users
823[2018-03-21 16:02:41] <_kmh_> lucky,  exactly
824[2018-03-21 16:02:43] <lucky> _kmh_: we also forget humans will be linked into these information processing/intelligence loops
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826[2018-01-30 17:56:36] <binaryhermit> or Cole Yuzion
827[2018-01-30 17:56:49] <binaryhermit> (it's pronounced "collusion")
828[2018-01-30 17:56:49] <+kuber> well. this is good anyway http://thehill.com/homenews/house/371375-ryan-rosenstein-doing-a-fine-job
829[2018-01-30 17:56:49] <+subtitle> [ Ryan: Rosenstein 'doing a fine job' | TheHill ]
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831[2018-01-30 17:58:30] <binaryhermit> I'd try to get a funny name on the stream if it didn't involve donating to a cause dedicated to turning America 卐
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833[2018-01-30 17:59:11] <binaryhermit> I have a neighbor who donates to Alliance Defending(sic) Freedom(sic)
834[2018-01-30 17:59:20] <binaryhermit> which is a hate group
835[2018-01-30 17:59:32] <binaryhermit> well, at least according to the SPLC
836[2018-01-30 18:00:26] <binaryhermit> who appointed the SPLC the gatekeeper of hate groups?
837[2018-01-30 18:00:49] <+kuber> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/30/trump-russia-collusion-fbi-cody-shearer-memo
838[2018-01-30 18:00:50] <+subtitle> [ Second Trump-Russia dossier being assessed by FBI | US news | The Guardian ]
839[2018-01-30 18:01:07] <DaScoot> I'm sure other groups do too but they got a head start
840[2018-01-30 18:01:46] <binaryhermit> I mean, they're certainly entitled to their opinion and I've agreed with them when I've seen their opinion, but how did they become the ones who decide what is and isn't a hate group
841[2018-01-30 18:02:16] <binaryhermit> it kinda rubs me the wrong way out of principle
842[2018-01-30 18:02:16] <lupine> since when did people gain an entitlement to be wrong?
843[2018-01-30 18:02:34] <binaryhermit> and I think hilarity would ensue if they declared the GOP a hate group
844[2018-01-30 18:03:00] <binaryhermit> they are racist, anti-lgbt, and sexist, to name 3
845[2018-01-30 18:05:30] <+kuber> https://www.theroot.com/baltimore-cops-kept-toy-guns-to-plant-just-in-case-they-1822546984
846[2018-01-30 18:05:30] <+subtitle> [ Baltimore Cops Kept Toy Guns to Plant Just in Case They Shot an Unarmed Person  ]
847[2018-01-30 18:05:50] <lupine> seems likely
848[2018-01-30 18:07:27] <DaScoot> the SPLC is a civil rights group, fighting against hate groups is probably their main purpose
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852[2018-01-30 18:16:43] <Omega037> ok, back
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856[2018-01-30 18:26:22] <binaryhermit> DaScoot: That's fine.  But who died and made them arbiter of hate groups?
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861[2018-01-30 18:27:30] <binaryhermit> that second part rubs me the wrong way a little bit.  more out of principle
862[2018-01-30 18:28:02] <+kuber> nice piece https://www.justsecurity.org/51630/five-questions-nunes-memo-answer/
863[2018-01-30 18:28:03] <+subtitle> [ Five Questions the Nunes Memo Better Answer | Just Security ]
864[2018-01-30 18:28:05] <binaryhermit> I do seem to be mostly in agreement with their judgement, though
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869[2018-01-30 18:29:11] <+kunwon1> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2018/01/30/heres-what-went-wrong-with-that-hawaii-missile-alert-the-fcc-says/
870[2018-01-30 18:29:11] <+subtitle> [ Hawaii’s false missile alert sent by worker who thought attack on U.S. was imminent, FCC says - The Washington Post ]
871[2018-01-30 18:29:23] <+kunwon1> a supervisor called in a drill, the drill used the phrase 'this is not a drill'
872[2018-01-30 18:29:29] <+kunwon1> and a guy heard that and sent an alert
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874[2018-01-31 00:05:32] <+macrobat> hmm, different from schizophrenia
875[2018-01-31 00:05:45] <binaryhermit> it's schizophrenia+bipolar
876[2018-01-31 00:06:00] <binaryhermit> except you can't have both by definition
877[2018-01-31 00:06:09] <binaryhermit> but if you could
878[2018-01-31 00:06:46] <+macrobat> half and half
879[2018-01-31 00:06:56] <binaryhermit> the real wtf (and I hope I'm wrong) is that as I understand it I can own a gun in 48 of 50 states
880[2018-01-31 00:07:02] <binaryhermit> IL not being one of them
881[2018-01-31 00:07:14] <binaryhermit> though I can own a gun in May 2019
882[2018-01-31 00:07:41] <binaryhermit> if I had access to a gun, something bad would have happened at some point with it
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886[2018-01-31 00:08:16] <erasmus> can't wait for tonights State of the Union.
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888[2018-01-31 00:08:42] <erasmus> can I chat here while you people while I watch it?
889[2018-01-31 00:08:46] <erasmus> *with
890[2018-01-31 00:08:59] <+ogz> something bad or something good?
891[2018-01-31 00:11:41] <binaryhermit> well, I'd be dead, in prison, or a long-term psychiatric hospital
892[2018-01-31 00:11:51] <binaryhermit> probably
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894[2018-01-31 00:13:19] <lupine> https://imgur.com/gallery/n0jXQ
895[2018-01-31 00:13:20] <+subtitle> [                                         Probably my favorite thing on the internet - Album on Imgur ]
896[2018-01-31 00:13:20] <+ogz> you couldnt kill yourself with anything else?
897[2018-01-31 00:13:22] <lupine> ohhhhh yes
898[2018-01-31 00:13:35] <binaryhermit> http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/01/30/woman-denied-emotional-support-peacock-on-united-flight.html
899[2018-01-31 00:13:36] <+subtitle> [ Woman denied emotional support peacock on United flight | Fox News ]
900[2018-01-31 00:14:00] <binaryhermit> I probably could
901[2018-01-31 00:14:08] <+cloe> poor peacock
902[2018-01-31 00:14:15] <binaryhermit> I mean, I probably almost ate myself to death
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904[2018-01-31 00:14:52] <+ogz> the gun seems less agonizing
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909[2018-01-31 00:23:00] <guideX> so we have emotional support peacock, and therapy llamas, which works better
910[2018-01-31 00:23:36] <+coffeeguy> i think emotional support animals should have some type of bowel control
911[2018-01-31 00:24:05] <+ogz> llamas are great
912[2018-01-31 00:24:14] <+coffeeguy> i mean at some point during the flight the emotional support llama is going to make everyone emotional
913[2018-01-31 00:24:21] <+ogz> they herd sheep
914[2018-01-31 00:24:30] <+ogz> guard property
915[2018-01-31 00:24:39] <+ogz> peacocks just poop everywhere
916[2018-01-31 00:24:51] <+coffeeguy> emotional support parakeet would be more ideal
917[2018-01-31 00:25:04] <+coffeeguy> so do llama's
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919[2018-01-31 00:25:20] <+ogz> of course not
920[2018-01-31 00:25:28] <+ogz> I just explained that
921[2018-01-31 00:25:41] <+coffeeguy> i'm telling you you're wrong
922[2018-01-31 00:25:51] <+ogz> doubt it
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927[2018-01-31 00:26:08] <+macrobat> emotional support chimpanzee eating all their faces
928[2018-01-31 00:26:30] <+coffeeguy> anyhoo i think noise cancelling headphones is all i'd need for a flight, just for the jet noises
929[2018-01-31 00:26:43] <+coffeeguy> bose
930[2018-01-31 00:26:49] <+coffeeguy> quiet comfort
931[2018-01-31 00:27:09] <+ogz> how does that help with the pressure
932[2018-01-31 00:27:21] <+coffeeguy> i dunno
933[2018-01-31 00:27:42] <+coffeeguy> pressurized cabin? maybe
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935[2018-01-31 00:28:35] <+coffeeguy> i think that's a different thing right lol
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938[2018-01-31 00:28:56] <+ogz> lol if the cabin is not pressurized everyone would die
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941[2018-01-31 00:29:06] <+coffeeguy> o k
942[2018-01-31 00:29:10] <+coffeeguy> and your point?
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944[2018-01-19 02:03:55] <+TaevDJS> this is when some rabid GOP'er screams LOCK THEM UP
945[2018-01-19 02:04:01] <cata-doxas> the drug consumption rates in the US are pretty much unsurmounted
946[2018-01-19 02:04:08] <cata-doxas> and they spend the most on fighting it
947[2018-01-19 02:04:08] <+TaevDJS> 20 years for marijuana possession!!
948[2018-01-19 02:04:25] <cata-doxas> harsher laws drive up the profit margins
949[2018-01-19 02:04:37] <cata-doxas> imagine the guy who hooks up the saudi kings with coke
950[2018-01-19 02:04:42] <cata-doxas> the margins he makes
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952[2018-01-19 02:04:54] • TaevDJS: is aghast
953[2018-01-19 02:04:59] <+TaevDJS> muslim royalty
954[2018-01-19 02:05:02] <+TaevDJS> using drugs!
955[2018-01-19 02:05:04] <+TaevDJS> never
956[2018-01-19 02:05:10] <cata-doxas> oh theyve been filmed doing it
957[2018-01-19 02:05:14] <cata-doxas> ukranian hookers too
958[2018-01-19 02:05:19] <+TaevDJS> western apostate lies!!
959[2018-01-19 02:05:22] <cata-doxas> i mean if you have a private 747
960[2018-01-19 02:05:27] <+TaevDJS> mmmm ukrainian hookers
961[2018-01-19 02:05:29] <cata-doxas> gotta have some standards
962[2018-01-19 02:05:44] <cata-doxas> apparently (im talking out of my ass ofc)
963[2018-01-19 02:06:09] <+TaevDJS> wow i didnt know the human body had vocal cords in ones ass
964[2018-01-19 02:06:20] <cata-doxas> but in all honesty their royalty has been seen many times using alcohol and worse drugs
965[2018-01-19 02:06:23] <cata-doxas> namely coke
966[2018-01-19 02:06:36] <cata-doxas> i mean a lot of their rich relatives live in london
967[2018-01-19 02:06:39] <cata-doxas> that has to color off:)
968[2018-01-19 02:06:48] <cata-doxas> they are 1# in europe at least
969[2018-01-19 02:06:59] <cata-doxas> when it comes to coke (zurich where i live is second...)
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980[2018-01-19 02:19:35] <dumbguy> are you aware of Delaware?
981[2018-01-19 02:19:54] <cata-doxas> delaware doing the exact same buisinesstactics as zurich
982[2018-01-19 02:20:00] <cata-doxas> after the US cried about it for years
983[2018-01-19 02:20:02] <cata-doxas> till we stopped?
984[2018-01-19 02:20:03] <dumbguy> as a flag of convenience?
985[2018-01-19 02:20:18] <dumbguy> cata-doxas: so you are aware of Delaware.
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987[2018-01-19 02:21:14] <cata-doxas> well i raise you a massive drug launderer of el chapo
988[2018-01-19 02:21:21] <cata-doxas> those we still have
989[2018-01-19 02:21:26] <cata-doxas> apparently;)
990[2018-01-19 02:22:13] <cata-doxas> and other unholy creaters (like waterhouse coopers, experts at undermining any taxburden your corp has in any nation)
991[2018-01-19 02:22:50] <cata-doxas> but from what I gather its no great place to store ilegal money anymore, least of all for americans
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997[2018-01-19 02:23:54] <cata-doxas> if you are an american and open an account here now you have to sign a waiver that alows them to transmit all your data to the fed
998[2018-01-19 02:23:57] <cata-doxas> oh and hes gone:)
999[2018-01-19 02:24:05] <cata-doxas> nevermind then
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1001[2018-04-29 18:49:06] <+macrobat> bad taste makes the world awful
1002[2018-04-29 18:49:09] <pingfloyd> foot binding
1003[2018-04-29 18:49:34] <+modulus> Well, I'm unusual on some axes; I suppose my contacts are bound to be so as well.
1004[2018-04-29 18:49:52] <lupine> did you see the fetlife T&C changes, by the way?
1005[2018-04-29 18:50:05] <+modulus> no, are they bad?
1006[2018-04-29 18:50:13] <nitus> I believe the gay robot porn referred to on the wiki
1007[2018-04-29 18:50:25] <lupine> if you have sex with people, definitely
1008[2018-04-29 18:50:33] <+modulus> lupine: who  does that? perverts.
1009[2018-04-29 18:51:26] <lupine> http://webcamstartup.com/fetlife-updates-tos-response-sesta/
1010[2018-04-29 18:51:26] <+subtitle> [ FetLife Updates TOS In Response To SESTA ]
1011[2018-04-29 18:51:30] <nitus> i hate all the retarded leather and pvc and excessively black costumary
1012[2018-04-29 18:51:51] <lupine> " the major changes for FetLife is the banning of consensual blackmail and financial domination"
1013[2018-04-29 18:52:09] <+modulus> is it blackmail if it's consensual?
1014[2018-04-29 18:52:15] <nitus> ohh, way to drive off all the clever prostitutes
1015[2018-04-29 18:52:36] <lupine> sure
1016[2018-04-29 18:52:43] <+modulus> financial domination seems like a profoundly weird kink to me. what is less sexy than money?
1017[2018-04-29 18:52:44] <lupine> they also ban escorting completely
1018[2018-04-29 18:52:47] <nitus> it's a way for a prostitute to get paid without having to suck dick
1019[2018-04-29 18:53:26] <lupine> the blackmail one is more interesting. the idea is that you send the person something incriminating about yourself then wank vigorously as they threaten to send it to your family, I guess
1020[2018-04-29 18:53:58] <sittbi> financial domination is like roleplaying a wife
1021[2018-04-29 18:53:58] <+modulus> lupine: yeah that one is hotter.
1022[2018-04-29 18:54:10] <+ogz> lol sittbi
1023[2018-04-29 18:54:21] <lupine> cannot confirm
1024[2018-04-29 18:54:23] <sittbi> seriously
1025[2018-04-29 18:54:25] <nitus> financial domination is a kink that descended from porn viewing
1026[2018-04-29 18:54:36] <lupine> but I've always maintained financial independence
1027[2018-04-29 18:54:38] <sittbi> not sure why people are getting married in some states tbh
1028[2018-04-29 18:54:42] <nitus> and when i say it's a way for a whore to get paid without sucking dick, I am not making a joke
1029[2018-04-29 18:54:45] <lupine> if you don't, I have to wonder for your sanity
1030[2018-04-29 18:54:45] <sittbi> the divorce laws are kinda fucked up
1031[2018-04-29 18:55:11] <nitus> marriage should have a standard 5 year term
1032[2018-04-29 18:55:18] <sittbi> btw why are people calling fetishes kinks nowadays?
1033[2018-04-29 18:55:22] <+modulus> why not?
1034[2018-04-29 18:55:26] <+modulus> it's shorter, for one.
1035[2018-04-29 18:55:31] <lupine> sounds more fun, also
1036[2018-04-29 18:55:33] <+modulus> also it's different from fetish.
1037[2018-04-29 18:55:35] <sittbi> it sounds less harmful
1038[2018-04-29 18:55:39] <sittbi> weaker word
1039[2018-04-29 18:55:44] <lupine> right, so it's more appropriate
1040[2018-04-29 18:55:49] <+modulus> for example you can have a kink for pegging.
1041[2018-04-29 18:55:56] <nitus> people always called them kinks, but kink sort of implies that it actively involves other participants
1042[2018-04-29 18:55:57] <+modulus> that would not be a fetish, as fetishes are partialisms or paraphilias.
1043[2018-04-29 18:56:02] <lupine> most people who say "I have a fetish for X" actually do not
1044[2018-04-29 18:56:03] <sittbi> more effeminate
1045[2018-04-29 18:56:15] <lupine> they should say "X turns me on but I can do fine without it"
1046[2018-04-29 18:56:31] <lupine> "Kink" is shorter
1047[2018-04-29 18:56:31] <+modulus> lupine: strictly speaking true.
1048[2018-04-29 18:56:51] <+modulus> also, again, you can't have a fetish for, for example, blood play.
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1050[2018-04-29 18:56:57] <+modulus> but you can have such a kink.
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1054[2018-04-29 18:57:14] <nitus> saying something is a fetish does not imply that you can't find sexual satisfaction without it
1055[2018-04-29 18:57:17] <sittbi> why did you ban him?
1056[2018-04-29 18:57:28] <lupine> nitus: it rather does
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1059[2018-03-20 14:57:13] <DaScoot> it's like having a legislative body, where the only way to get a party to do the right thing is to bribe them with local project funding :P
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1062[2018-03-20 15:02:38] <lupine> yeah, in such a circumstance extermination is the right thing
1063[2018-03-20 15:09:18] <OneMiner> There's a ton of other reasons too. 24hr news constantly has to hype up everything in order to justify their 24hr programming. Online culture, while very useful and freeing, is also causing us to trend towards isolation and less face to face interaction. And that also makes it easier for us to sort ourselves, choosing to live where there's more people just like us so we won't have to challenge or be challenged.
1064[2018-03-20 15:10:32] <OneMiner> I'm sure I could go on. It's not just the parties. But those in power have the responsibility to rise above. Act in the greatest good. Unfortunately, their actions are very logical. They fall in with the group.
1065[2018-03-20 15:10:37] <DaScoot> actually, I've heard a convincing argument that the net actually pushes things the other way
1066[2018-03-20 15:11:11] <DaScoot> back in like 1820, dudes in new york and georgia could go their whole lives never interacting at all
1067[2018-03-20 15:11:25] <DaScoot> they'd probably disagree on everything but they'd never meet so it never mattered
1068[2018-03-20 15:11:50] <DaScoot> nowadays though we do meet, and we can know just how much we hate each other's guts
1069[2018-03-20 15:12:11] <OneMiner> DaScoot I don't find that to be very likely. idk about you, how much time to you spend watching stuff you disagree with completely?
1070[2018-03-20 15:12:27] <DaScoot> since 2016? every day
1071[2018-03-20 15:13:10] <DaScoot> I may not go on the conservaboards myself but I know what they're saying
1072[2018-03-20 15:13:29] <_W_> I've disagreed with people around me since I was a tiny human
1073[2018-03-20 15:14:36] <OneMiner> I'm sure as hell not letting anybody off the hook too. And that's the Republicans. Just look at the thinly veiled way they treated Obama.
1074[2018-03-20 15:14:54] <OneMiner> It's pretty obvious it wasn't policy differences that lead them to treat Obama that way.
1075[2018-03-20 15:14:59] <_W_> what veil?
1076[2018-03-20 15:15:25] <+MikeSeth> not the jews?
1077[2018-03-20 15:15:42] <OneMiner> Cuz he was a black guy with the middle name Hussein
1078[2018-03-20 15:16:39] <OneMiner> They shouted at him from the seats in Congress when he gave the state of the union address. Shoved fingers in his face on flightlines. Promised to oppose him no matter what the content of the discussion....
1079[2018-03-20 15:17:00] <OneMiner> It's pretty freaking obvious it was about race.
1080[2018-03-20 15:17:17] <OneMiner> I hope nobody will insult my intelligence suggesting otherwise ;/
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1082[2018-03-20 15:18:15] <OneMiner> And then the same people lecture all of America about how they should show Trump respect. I've never run across a less respectable group of people
1083[2018-03-20 15:19:08] <kitties> i sorta feel like they're largely brainwashed by right-wing media
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1093[2018-03-20 15:41:59] <+Sabotender> ugh, school shooting reported at Maryland High school
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1096[2018-03-20 15:48:35] <kitties> https://twitter.com/kare11/status/976103984820903936
1097[2018-03-20 15:48:36] <+subtitle> [ KARE 11: “UPDATE: Sheriff confirms male student opened fire inside Maryland High School, targeting female student. She was wounded, as was another male student. School resource officer shot gunman. All 3 students listed as critical. https://t.co/iOoTOPLoUX” ]
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1099[2018-03-20 15:50:01] <+MikeSeth> oh
1100[2018-03-20 15:50:13] <+MikeSeth> 'male student shooting female student and another male student'
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1102[2018-03-20 15:50:39] <+MikeSeth> someone couldnt handle the friendzone
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1104[2018-03-20 16:01:06] <DaScoot> and upgraded to the warzone
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1106[2018-03-20 16:01:54] <DaScoot> apparently the shooter is dead now
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1114[2018-03-20 16:06:52] <+coffeeguy> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/world/americas/trump-venezuela-sanctions-petro.html
1115[2018-03-20 16:06:52] <+subtitle> [ White House Bans Venezuela’s Digital Currency and Expands Sanctions - The New York Times ]
1116[2018-03-20 16:07:33] <+coffeeguy> petro is no dieash
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1119[2018-03-08 21:17:35] <+modulus> which is basically a practice where you sell at a lose to conquer the market
1120[2018-03-08 21:17:39] <+modulus> *loss
1121[2018-03-08 21:17:58] <+modulus> but dumping would have to be proven.
1122[2018-03-08 21:18:13] <+xeno> hmm... I have a ton of paper to recycle, but I guess I should save it, given that our main recycling facility is currently on fire
1123[2018-03-08 21:18:35] <+xeno> also, good evening all
1124[2018-03-08 21:18:36] <spruit11> There's a rationale to stock dropping if Trump starts trade wars to correct the trade deficit but I doubt it'll be 40%.
1125[2018-03-08 21:18:56] <guideX> oh jeez this seems like a long subject, I'll have to read later https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/guide-antidumping-laws-americas-unfair-trade-practice
1126[2018-03-08 21:18:56] <kitties> https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/four-other-people-may-have-the-trump-dick-pics-aka-certain-still-images trump dick pics !
1127[2018-03-08 21:18:56] <+subtitle> [ A Guide to Antidumping Laws: America's Unfair Trade Practice | The Heritage Foundation ]
1128[2018-03-08 21:18:58] <+subtitle> [ Four Other People May Have the Trump Dick Pics (AKA “Certain Still Images”)! – Talking Points Memo ]
1129[2018-03-08 21:19:07] <+modulus> spruit11 - not for that alone but there are reasons to believe the market is bubbly anyway, modulo trump.
1130[2018-03-08 21:19:19] <kitties> the heritage foundation is pure evil ;_;
1131[2018-03-08 21:19:23] <spruit11> The US consumes a lot, thereby pushes a lot of dollars abroad, thereby raises the foreign demand for stock.
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1133[2018-03-08 21:19:34] <+modulus> guideX: few things are more complicatedly regulated than so-called "free trade"
1134[2018-03-08 21:19:35] <spruit11> No consumption, less foreign demand.
1135[2018-03-08 21:19:44] <spruit11> But I doubt it's gonna be 40%.
1136[2018-03-08 21:19:48] <+modulus> if you start reading WTO adenda, separata, etc, it will eat your life entire.
1137[2018-03-08 21:20:16] <guideX> yeah it was a struggle to get to the bottom of that page with the mouse wheel even
1138[2018-03-08 21:20:38] <guideX> certainly not light reading
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1140[2018-03-08 21:21:08] <DaScoot> that's why it's so sad that Trump said this was 'simple' the other day
1141[2018-03-08 21:21:21] <DaScoot> dude clearly doesn't understand fuck all
1142[2018-03-08 21:22:17] <guideX> I mean, I would have someone tackle this for me, maybe a large group of people, I'm sure the us has some organization already for these kinds of decisions
1143[2018-03-08 21:22:53] <DaScoot> you'd be glad to know the guy in charge just resigned in disgust
1144[2018-03-08 21:23:58] <+modulus> guideX: yes, I think in the US the ITC does most of this work.
1145[2018-03-08 21:24:02] <+modulus> could be wrong
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1147[2018-03-08 21:24:25] <+modulus> https://www.usitc.gov/
1148[2018-03-08 21:24:26] <+subtitle> [ USITC | United States International Trade Commission ]
1149[2018-03-08 21:24:27] <guideX> yes that sounds about right
1150[2018-03-08 21:24:59] <guideX> so why doesn't trump just direct them to do something more intelligent
1151[2018-03-08 21:29:35] <spruit11> Less foreign demand for stock is probably an extra for business doing more expensive trading locally which will depress the stock market too.
1152[2018-03-08 21:30:02] <spruit11> But it needs to be one hell of a trade war I imagine before the stock market starts noticing.
1153[2018-03-08 21:31:09] <Thunderguy> One day somebody somewhere must have kicked you around some, who knows maybe you were kidnapped taken away tied up and held for ransom... it dont make no difference to me baby... everybody has the right to be free
1154[2018-03-08 21:32:36] <Thunderguy> dont..have..to..live like a refugee
1155[2018-03-08 21:38:37] <+modulus> Today on .us tortures people: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/07/judge-uses-electric-shock-defendant-3-times-texas-court-throws-out-conviction/404286002/
1156[2018-03-08 21:38:37] <+subtitle> [ Texas judge uses electric shock on defendant, court tosses conviction ]
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1174[2018-03-08 22:24:49] <guideX> South Korea will make a "major announcement" concerning North Korea at 7 pm ET
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1176[2018-06-22 22:52:32] <markovchained> it was much easier to be a militant anti capitalist when people literally died in mines and horrifying workplace maimings were commonplace
1177[2018-06-22 22:52:56] <markovchained> also the capitalist had the pinkerton forces that basically acted as a private military for capitalists
1178[2018-06-22 22:53:32] <markovchained> but the idea that "antifa" existed in name back then is just fucking silly
1179[2018-06-22 22:53:58] <lnnb> perhaps
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1183[2018-06-22 22:56:13] <markovchained> this is a great film on that subject
1184[2018-06-22 22:56:15] <markovchained> http://metanoia-films.org/plutocracy/
1185[2018-06-22 22:56:16] <+subtitle> [ Plutocracy | Metanoia Films ]
1186[2018-06-22 22:57:07] <mabus> thinking about antifa like an organisation suggests one hasnt read so much as the wikipedia article
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1188[2018-06-22 22:57:58] <lnnb> ?
1189[2018-06-22 22:59:18] <markovchained> lol
1190[2018-06-22 22:59:54] <markovchained> thats why i just prefer to link to the actual history of anarchist thought and labor union organizing....
1191[2018-06-22 22:59:57] <markovchained> hence the link
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1193[2018-06-22 23:05:59] <mabus> yeah i wasnt talking about you
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1196[2018-06-22 23:11:32] <binaryhermit> holy crap the war on drugs about to send a former MLB player to federal PMITA prison? https://twitter.com/MassAveSports_/status/1010283486224310278
1197[2018-06-22 23:11:33] <+subtitle> [ Mass Ave Sports: “#Breaking: A man was pulled over with drugs in his car. Suspect says items in car belongs to Hanley Ramirez and then FaceTimes him in front of police. The suspect is linked to a large drug ring in Lawerence, Mass. #RedSox” ]
1198[2018-06-22 23:12:01] <binaryhermit> apparently it was like 435g of fentanyl and a large amount of crack
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1200[2018-06-22 23:15:07] <lnnb> police report?
1201[2018-06-22 23:17:30] <binaryhermit> probably not easy to find because there's no reports of a name on the guy who got pulled over AFAIK
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1203[2018-06-22 23:20:53] <lnnb> well then my money is on one of two possiblities, it's true and this guy is probably on video singing like a canary and desperate to not catch jailtime, or guy is just insane and someone knows the guy, or knows the guys phone number
1204[2018-06-22 23:23:12] <binaryhermit> I'm reminded of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Hurd#Arrest_and_Incarceration
1205[2018-06-22 23:23:13] <+subtitle> [ Sam Hurd - Wikipedia ]
1206[2018-06-22 23:24:26] <binaryhermit> though Hurd was a low-paid NFL player (for a NFL player, I mean.  That's still like half a mil a year at least) and Hanley Ramirez is getting paid $22mil by the Red Sox to play for nobody
1207[2018-06-22 23:25:15] <binaryhermit> still, even being involved in the narcotics trade in an attempt to make ends meet is silly
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1211[2018-06-22 23:26:01] <binaryhermit> but it's even stupider when you're being paid from a 4yr/$88mil contract
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1213[2018-06-22 23:26:41] <lnnb> 3'rd option, they're both being played by the mechanic in some kind of car delivery scheme that had drugs stashed onboard
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1216[2018-06-22 23:28:58] <binaryhermit> baseball-reference suggests that including the remaining part of his 22.75 mil salary this year, he's gotten at least 159.168 megabucks in his career
1217[2018-06-22 23:30:08] <binaryhermit> there's a disclaimer... Salaries may not be complete (especially pre-1985) and may not include some earned bonuses
1218[2018-06-22 23:30:16] <binaryhermit> hence, at least
1219[2018-06-22 23:30:35] <binaryhermit> and they don't have any data from the year he started his career
1220[2018-06-22 23:30:50] <binaryhermit> if he did it, he's a massive Alexandre Dumas
1221[2018-06-22 23:31:02] <binaryhermit> @yt shawshank redemption Dumas
1222[2018-06-22 23:31:30] <binaryhermit> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9p9Yr1U2KA
1223[2018-06-22 23:31:31] <+subtitle> [ Shawshank Redemption- Alexander Dumbass ]
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1233[2018-06-18 05:33:32] <Tylak> ok, I agree with that Omega037
1234[2018-06-18 05:33:33] <+Hoffman> s/forced/coerced/
1235[2018-06-18 05:33:53] <+Hoffman> idk how it should work
1236[2018-06-18 05:34:16] <Tylak> ok Hoffman, insurance is a private contract, that's not what I was talking about
1237[2018-06-18 05:34:35] <Byteflux> anyone who has life insurance agrees that they dont collect if they kill themselves.
1238[2018-06-18 05:34:35] <+Hoffman> Tylak: its what I was talking about
1239[2018-06-18 05:34:42] <+Hoffman> I thought I brought up an interesting discussion topic
1240[2018-06-18 05:34:46] <+Hoffman> how to handle that sort of thing
1241[2018-06-18 05:34:59] <+Hoffman> I guess it wasn't so interesting after all :P
1242[2018-06-18 05:35:16] <+Hoffman> Byteflux: WHAT IF
1243[2018-06-18 05:35:20] <Tylak> I agree Hoffman, I thought you were presenting a counter point, I didn't see your earlier posts
1244[2018-06-18 05:35:21] <+Hoffman> there was some sort of amortization
1245[2018-06-18 05:35:27] <+Hoffman> like, doctor says youll die in 6 months
1246[2018-06-18 05:35:31] <+Hoffman> you kill yourself now
1247[2018-06-18 05:35:33] <+Hoffman> get a reduced payout
1248[2018-06-18 05:35:37] <_kmh_> https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/06/india-faces-worst-water-crisis-report-180616072654630.html
1249[2018-06-18 05:35:38] <+subtitle> [ India faces 'worst-ever' water crisis: report | News | Al Jazeera ]
1250[2018-06-18 05:35:41] <+Hoffman> just off the top of my head
1251[2018-06-18 05:35:59] <Byteflux> Hoffman, yeah i think that's a good point for sure.
1252[2018-06-18 05:36:03] <Tylak> suicide to commit insurance fraud is wrong, I can stand by that
1253[2018-06-18 05:36:15] <+Hoffman> like, if the insurance agrees youre gonna die
1254[2018-06-18 05:36:22] <+Hoffman> its in their best interest to offer a lower payout now
1255[2018-06-18 05:36:27] <Byteflux> if you're going to die, it's certain, a reduced payout for suicide makes sense
1256[2018-06-18 05:36:33] <+Hoffman> seems like a nash equilibrium
1257[2018-06-18 05:36:46] <Byteflux> compared to the alternative of no payout at all
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1259[2018-06-18 05:37:24] <Tylak> my main point is that an assisted suicide option should be available in some cases.
1260[2018-06-18 05:37:33] <Tylak> terminal, etc
1261[2018-06-18 05:38:01] <Tylak> as far as I know it's completely illegal in the US, but I could be wrong
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1263[2018-06-18 05:38:25] <Byteflux> Tylak, it's legal in some states
1264[2018-06-18 05:38:31] <Tylak> yeah?
1265[2018-06-18 05:38:41] <Byteflux> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States
1266[2018-06-18 05:38:42] <+subtitle> [ Assisted suicide in the United States - Wikipedia ]
1267[2018-06-18 05:38:50] <Tylak> thanks
1268[2018-06-18 05:39:55] <Tylak> looking at heatmaps of the US is like looking at a brain in development
1269[2018-06-18 05:40:02] <Byteflux> There doesnt appear to be anything federally that prohibits it so it's up to the states
1270[2018-06-18 05:40:46] <Tylak> good, I'm a lefty but I think states-rights is an important part of federalism.
1271[2018-06-18 05:44:54] <Tylak> but it's nice to talk these things out without all the vitrial I see in media
1272[2018-06-18 05:45:02] <Tylak> Tylak 2020
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1275[2018-06-18 05:46:19] <Tylak> oh I misspelled vitriol
1276[2018-06-18 05:46:29] <+Hoffman> whythryhol
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1278[2018-06-18 05:50:14] <xormor> Tortured dem damn Muzziez.
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1280[2018-06-18 05:51:13] <xormor> I think G. W. Bush sucked as a President and Juha Sipilä of Finland sucks as the Prime Minister of Finland.
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1282[2018-06-18 05:51:18] <+justan0theruser> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1008450201885872129
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1284[2018-06-18 05:51:19] <+subtitle> [ Elon Musk: “@FredericLambert @SwiftOnSecurity They have about three weeks before their short position explodes” ]
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1287[2018-06-18 05:51:27] <+justan0theruser> is this even legal to tweet? lol
1288[2018-06-18 05:53:45] <+Hoffman> justan0theruser: rofl
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1290[2018-06-18 23:45:18] <Byteflux> Skipp_OSX, California and NY have conservative areas just like Texas has progressive areas.
1291[2018-06-18 23:45:21] <Skipp_OSX> mabus um, we have a bi-cameral legistature
1292[2018-06-18 23:45:21] <_kmh_> Skipp_OSX,  texas has more voters than NY
1293[2018-06-18 23:45:27] <Byteflux> Skipp_OSX, Your claim that Cali and NY would take the elections is just blatantly false.
1294[2018-06-18 23:45:35] <Byteflux> Skipp_OSX, Dallas, Houstan, Austin would go Blue
1295[2018-06-18 23:45:42] <Byteflux> Miami
1296[2018-06-18 23:45:46] <mabus> Skipp_OSX: and?
1297[2018-06-18 23:45:51] <+cloe> “I’m hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. That’s a big statement. We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal.”
1298[2018-06-18 23:45:53] <mabus> im talking about a hypothetical democracy
1299[2018-06-18 23:45:56] <mabus> i dont know of any
1300[2018-06-18 23:45:57] <+cloe> http://thehill.com/policy/defense/392799-trump-directs-pentagon-to-create-space-force
1301[2018-06-18 23:45:58] <+subtitle> [ Trump directs Pentagon to create 'space force' | TheHill ]
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1303[2018-06-18 23:46:05] <+cloe> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/06/18/trump-says-hes-directing-pentagon-to-create-a-new-space-force/?utm_term=.376078748648
1304[2018-06-18 23:46:06] <+subtitle> [ Trump says he’s directing Pentagon to create a new ‘Space Force’ - The Washington Post ]
1305[2018-06-18 23:46:11] <_kmh_> Skipp_OSX,  and the US has already other measures in place to prevent that population centers roll over smaller states
1306[2018-06-18 23:46:25] <+cloe> this asshole is doing nothing but having fun with his authority.
1307[2018-06-18 23:46:32] <+cloe> u can hear it, when he speaks.
1308[2018-06-18 23:46:35] <Skipp_OSX> cloe you mean Trump?
1309[2018-06-18 23:46:45] <_kmh_> cloe,  trump watched starshiip troopers the other day
1310[2018-06-18 23:46:54] <+cloe> _kmh_ i don't doubt it.
1311[2018-06-18 23:46:57] <+cloe> he doesn't work.
1312[2018-06-18 23:47:00] <mabus> space force? man, if thats what it takes to get funding for space travel, im about to buy a maga hat
1313[2018-06-18 23:47:01] <+cloe> that's for sure.
1314[2018-06-18 23:47:15] <+cloe> listen to it.
1315[2018-06-18 23:47:18] <+cloe> it's mind blowing to me.
1316[2018-06-18 23:47:22] <Byteflux> you'd think Air Force would be in charge of military space operations lol
1317[2018-06-18 23:47:26] <+cloe> it's yet another left field.
1318[2018-06-18 23:47:31] <Skipp_OSX> _kmh_ but in the case of a Presidential Election the electoral college is the mesure used
1319[2018-06-18 23:47:31] <+cloe> form outta nowhere.
1320[2018-06-18 23:47:36] <_kmh_> cloe,  well to be fair he watched it a while back, he's flaunting that space force idea for a while now
1321[2018-06-18 23:47:36] <Skipp_OSX> measure
1322[2018-06-18 23:47:37] <mabus> isnt like every astronaut from the air force
1323[2018-06-18 23:47:40] <piscina> why is it so "left field" do you say cloe ?
1324[2018-06-18 23:47:40] <+cloe> and i think mattis opposes.
1325[2018-06-18 23:47:46] <+cloe> and has alreayd publicly said so.
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1327[2018-06-18 23:48:02] <Skipp_OSX> Trump has certainly used his power of tarriff and pardon which are the powers exclusive to the executive
1328[2018-06-18 23:48:20] <Skipp_OSX> and 0 vetos so far
1329[2018-06-18 23:48:28] <mabus> trump is kind of a civics lesson on what the president can get away with
1330[2018-06-18 23:48:31] <_kmh_> mabus,  yes but nasa and astronauts sounds too civilian
1331[2018-06-18 23:48:33] <Byteflux> here's to hoping China, Canada and Europe don't cave on the tarrifs, and hit back on the rural areas as hard as they can
1332[2018-06-18 23:48:40] <Skipp_OSX> he is rubber stamping whatever congressional Republicans decide
1333[2018-06-18 23:48:42] <Byteflux> I'm looking forward to the almond tarriffs to hit the California farmers
1334[2018-06-18 23:48:48] <Byteflux> they deserve every bit of it
1335[2018-06-18 23:48:52] <+kunwon1> Skipp_OSX: he doesn't veto, he just refuses to do what they say
1336[2018-06-18 23:48:53] <piscina> this channel is serious lulz
1337[2018-06-18 23:49:01] <Byteflux> and the pork/soy tarriffs i hope destroy rural Iowa lol
1338[2018-06-18 23:49:02] <_kmh_> also afaik not all astronauts come from the military that applied only to the first ones
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1343[2018-06-18 23:49:34] <+kunwon1> Skipp_OSX: like when the congress passed sanctions on russia, and the executive branch refused to carry them out
1344[2018-06-18 23:49:37] <Skipp_OSX> Democrats are refusing to work with Trump there plan is to impeach him come November
1345[2018-06-18 23:49:46] <+kunwon1> democrats are not refusing to work with trump
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1347[2018-06-18 23:55:00] <+kunwon1> he forgot the words to the national anthem therefore trump hates america. doesn't that make sense?
1348[2018-06-18 23:55:01] <Skipp_OSX> my feelling is that the Republicans will maintain the Senate, and narrowly retain the House
1349[2018-06-18 23:55:02] <cata-doxas> I mean in some sense conservatism is almost the same thing as obstructionism (sometimes for good like overspending)
1350[2018-06-18 23:55:03] <cata-doxas> but
1351[2018-06-18 23:55:11] <+kunwon1> Skipp_OSX: well?
1352[2018-06-18 23:55:24] <Skipp_OSX> well, if the Dems win the house they will move to impeach
1353[2018-06-18 23:55:30] <Byteflux> No they won't
1354[2018-06-18 23:55:35] <+kunwon1> are you just ignoring people when they ask you questions now
1355[2018-06-18 23:55:39] <Skipp_OSX> Byteflux because they won't win
1356[2018-06-18 23:55:39] <cata-doxas> god if I have to leave trump one thing, the fucker surprises me almost daily
1357[2018-06-18 23:55:42] <Byteflux> Moving to impeach without a 2/3rds majority in the senate is not going to happen.
1358[2018-06-18 23:55:50] <jrawson> My feeling is that whatever the bent of the person is making predictions they will predict their team "wins" in November, but we're all losers anyway.
1359[2018-06-18 23:55:54] <Byteflux> So Democrats, even if they take the House, isn't going to move to impeach.
1360[2018-06-18 23:55:58] <Skipp_OSX> Byteflux no just simple majority
1361[2018-06-18 23:56:04] <Skipp_OSX> let me double check that...
1362[2018-06-18 23:56:06] <+justanotheruser> $ti gop_house18
1363[2018-06-18 23:56:06] <IrcBook> Claim: gop_house18. Highest bid: 36, lowest ask: 55.
1364[2018-06-18 23:56:07] <_kmh_> Byteflux, trump agenda will continue until he's out of office
1365[2018-06-18 23:56:15] <+kunwon1> Skipp_OSX: you are not debating in good faith, if you keep telling lies and then ignoring people when they question you, you will be banned
1366[2018-06-18 23:56:17] <+cloe> cata-doxas try understand the time frame here..
1367[2018-06-18 23:56:19] <+justanotheruser> $ti repub_senate18
1368[2018-06-18 23:56:19] <+cloe> “You know, I was saying it the other day — because we’re doing a tremendous amount of work in space — I said, ‘Maybe we need a new force, we’ll call it the Space Force.’ ” Trump said during a speech to military personnel in San Diego.
1369[2018-06-18 23:56:19] <IrcBook> Claim: repub_senate18. Highest bid: 63, lowest ask: 68.
1370[2018-06-18 23:56:19] <mabus> i would think this sort of thing is not helpful to your country and you shouldnt want trump impeached even if you wanted hillary or bernie
1371[2018-06-18 23:56:21] <_kmh_> Byteflux,  and dems taking the house won't stop him
1372[2018-06-18 23:56:32] <+cloe> so today..
1373[2018-06-18 23:56:33] <+cloe> “I’m hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon to immediately begin the process necessary to establish a space force as the sixth branch of the armed forces. That’s a big statement. We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal.”
1374[2018-06-18 23:56:36] <mabus> theres a reason for the pardon and immunity from prosecution bits
1375[2018-06-18 23:56:40] <Skipp_OSX> kunwon1 what did I ignore?
1376[2018-06-18 23:56:40] <Byteflux> _kmh_, Dems taking the house means Republicans can no longer legislate.
1377[2018-06-18 23:56:45] <+cloe> just a few days was all it took!
1378[2018-06-18 23:56:46] <cata-doxas> space force assemble!
1379[2018-06-18 23:56:50] <+cloe> lol
1380[2018-06-18 23:56:50] <Byteflux> Which means Republican bills no longer reach Trump's desk.
1381[2018-06-18 23:56:52] <+kunwon1> mabus: trump should be tried at the hague at this point
1382[2018-06-18 23:56:55] <_kmh_> Byteflux,  on the contrary dems taking the house and messing up might ensure Trump his reelection in 2020
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1384[2018-06-18 23:57:11] <+cloe> no research.. no nothin'.
1385[2018-06-18 23:57:13] <+cloe> i hate him.
1386[2018-06-18 23:57:13] <+kunwon1> Skipp_OSX: we're not going to have a conversation about it, i'm done talking to you, just heed the warning and alter your behavior if you want to keep chatting here
1387[2018-06-18 23:57:14] <_kmh_> Byteflux, that is exactly what clinton did
1388[2018-06-18 23:57:14] <mabus> kunwon1: what about kissinger? bush? how far do you go?
1389[2018-06-18 23:57:27] <+kunwon1> mabus: i said the same thing then
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1393[2018-06-18 23:57:40] <_kmh_> Byteflux,  trump doesn't need GOp legislation for much of his agenda
1394[2018-06-18 23:57:42] <cata-doxas> and russia has another international treaty to point at the US broke first:D
1395[2018-06-18 23:57:44] <Skipp_OSX> I will not alter my behaviour as I've done nothign wrong
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1399[2018-06-18 23:57:58] <jrawson> kunwon1: So, not to be a downer, but what international crimes has Trump committed that the ICC should try him?
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1401[2018-06-18 23:58:05] <_kmh_> Byteflux, and he cares very little about legality to begin with
1402[2018-06-18 23:58:10] <Byteflux> _kmh_, yeah he can get a lot done thru EOs, but still the damage is largely mitigated
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1404[2018-06-25 16:24:21] <coderphive> pokmo the statement is true but I don't know the overall impact
1405[2018-06-25 16:24:44] <coderphive> Could be negligible. NPR didn't mention.
1406[2018-06-25 16:25:39] <_methods> https://www.marketwatch.com/story/harley-davidson-sales-decline-continues-2018-01-30
1407[2018-06-25 16:25:39] <+subtitle> [ Harley-Davidson sales decline continues - MarketWatch ]
1408[2018-06-25 16:27:12] <_kmh_> https://youtu.be/wVsAir5fDbs?t=899
1409[2018-06-25 16:27:14] <+subtitle> [ YouTube ]
1410[2018-06-25 16:27:55] <pokmo> coderphive sales in Europe make up about 16%
1411[2018-06-25 16:29:03] <pokmo> are levis still made in the US?
1412[2018-06-25 16:29:14] <pokmo> aren't they mostly made in vietnam?
1413[2018-06-25 16:29:31] <coderphive> so about $1M?
1414[2018-06-25 16:30:13] <coderphive> sorry $1B
1415[2018-06-25 16:31:24] <pokmo> coderphive $1B?
1416[2018-06-25 16:31:50] <coderphive> Annual revenue of 6B, ~960M shifted to the EU
1417[2018-06-25 16:32:14] <coderphive> probably not an accurate figure, but ballpark
1418[2018-06-25 16:32:20] <coderphive> I'd say that's significant
1419[2018-06-25 16:33:44] <pokmo> motorcycle-related revenue: $4.92B
1420[2018-06-25 16:33:55] <pokmo> yeah, around $1B
1421[2018-06-25 16:36:51] <_methods> https://www.marketwatch.com/story/harley-davidson-sales-decline-continues-2018-01-30
1422[2018-06-25 16:36:52] <+subtitle> [ Harley-Davidson sales decline continues - MarketWatch ]
1423[2018-06-25 16:36:54] <_methods> ooops
1424[2018-06-25 16:37:06] <_methods> https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/special-counsel-obtains-trump-ally-erik-princes-phones/story?id=56143477
1425[2018-06-25 16:37:06] <+subtitle> [ Special counsel obtains Trump ally Erik Prince's phones, computer - ABC News ]
1426[2018-06-25 16:37:09] <_methods> meant to post that
1427[2018-06-25 16:37:23] <_methods> i hope that fucker ends up in the same cell as manafort
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1431[2018-06-25 16:48:53] <kitties> not sure he will
1432[2018-06-25 16:48:59] <kitties> there are reports that he's been cooperating with mueller
1433[2018-06-25 16:49:11] <kitties> which means there's probably a plea deal on the table, unfortunately
1434[2018-06-25 16:49:56] <mrig> if we all kept growing up after the age of 14 things would be a lot easier; Seems to me that society wants us to be perpetual demanding teenagers. Shoot look at the baby boom generation they are still like that in their 70's.
1435[2018-06-25 16:50:17] <mrig> ah sorry was reading back several pages there...
1436[2018-06-25 16:50:20] <mrig> heh
1437[2018-06-25 16:51:08] <mrig> Was referring to our 'rights to free expression'.
1438[2018-06-25 16:51:52] <_methods> kitties well i'm fine with that then if he's cooperating
1439[2018-06-25 16:52:00] <_methods> still would be nice to see him do some time
1440[2018-06-25 16:52:04] <_methods> in iraq
1441[2018-06-25 16:52:15] <DaScoot> he's one of the closest things there is to a real life movie villain
1442[2018-06-25 16:53:14] <DaScoot> if this was a movie, it would end with Mueller's team shooting their way into a white house guarded by Blackwater mercs
1443[2018-06-25 16:53:28] <_methods> heheh
1444[2018-06-25 16:53:49] <DaScoot> Prince flying an attack chopper
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1449[2018-06-25 17:09:04] <+cloee> http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/amp/2018/06/where-is-barack-obama.html
1450[2018-06-25 17:09:04] <+subtitle> [ Where Is Barack Obama? ]
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1456[2018-06-25 17:13:39] <cata-doxas> probably swimming in all that $$$
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1458[2018-06-25 17:30:05] <+cloee> it's a nice article.
1459[2018-06-25 17:30:27] <DaScoot> there's not really room in the US system for active ex-presidents
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1461[2018-07-02 01:11:09] <VirusInsane> That is skin color based and inaccurate.
1462[2018-07-02 01:11:11] <+Hoffman> VirusInsane: what did they say when you asked them
1463[2018-07-02 01:11:27] <VirusInsane> Since he does this in USA, then I am only speaking about the African American response to a magic trick.
1464[2018-07-02 01:11:39] <+kunwon1> VirusInsane: please try to stick to politics here from now on
1465[2018-07-02 01:11:48] <VirusInsane> Look, if you're going to get offended, then I'll take it elsewhere.
1466[2018-07-02 01:11:57] <+kunwon1> go on then
1467[2018-07-02 01:12:03] <VirusInsane> Sure.
1468[2018-07-02 01:12:22] <VirusInsane> Why would I talk about something with someone where I'm not welcomed?
1469[2018-07-02 01:12:25] <+Hoffman> VirusInsane: what did they say when you asked them?
1470[2018-07-02 01:12:33] <VirusInsane> That seems counter productive, and I'm a very productive man.
1471[2018-07-02 01:12:43] <+kunwon1> with large hands no doubt
1472[2018-07-02 01:12:50] <+Hoffman> lol
1473[2018-07-02 01:13:22] <VirusInsane> Hoffman: that akes two assumptions. 1) That I asked them, 2) That I am also in USA with access to African Americans. I am not.
1474[2018-07-02 01:13:34] <VirusInsane> Next time, when you wish to be sarcastic, try and think things through.
1475[2018-07-02 01:13:39] <+Hoffman> VirusInsane: you should come here and ask
1476[2018-07-02 01:13:44] <+Hoffman> then you will have the answers you seek
1477[2018-07-02 01:13:56] <VirusInsane> Actually I did not get the answers I sought.
1478[2018-07-02 01:13:58] <VirusInsane> That is clear.
1479[2018-07-02 01:14:08] <+Hoffman> because you did not come to the US and ask any African Americans
1480[2018-07-02 01:14:12] <+Hoffman> you should do that
1481[2018-07-02 01:14:14] <+Hoffman> then you will have the answers you seek
1482[2018-07-02 01:14:15] <VirusInsane> What are you on about? Are you able to think critically? So far the evidence suggests that you cannot.
1483[2018-07-02 01:14:32] <+Hoffman> wuh oh I think the program is angry
1484[2018-07-02 01:14:33] <+Hoffman> brb
1485[2018-07-02 01:15:05] <VirusInsane> Yes, Dr. Phil. Lecture us on the psychological underpinnings of anger based on 2 queries and one sentence.
1486[2018-07-02 01:15:15] <VirusInsane> Heh. This guy. Regular Einstein.
1487[2018-07-02 01:15:42] <+kunwon1> okay, don't talk to hoffman any more either
1488[2018-07-02 01:15:48] <+Hoffman> I was talking about one of y computer programs man
1489[2018-07-02 01:15:49] <+kunwon1> politics only, and no hoffman
1490[2018-07-02 01:15:49] <VirusInsane> No problem.
1491[2018-07-02 01:15:51] <+Hoffman> thats why I was brb
1492[2018-07-02 01:15:51] <+kunwon1> those are your rules
1493[2018-07-02 01:15:59] <VirusInsane> You got it.
1494[2018-07-02 01:16:27] <+Hoffman> I wasnt calling you a computer program fwiw
1495[2018-07-02 01:17:06] <VirusInsane> Others can call me whatever they wish. I'm not in 1st grade. Just because someone calls me something, doesn't mean I am it or I become one. :)
1496[2018-07-02 01:17:40] <VirusInsane> Taking offense to everything is the enterprise of today's youth. I'm from a few generations ago.
1497[2018-07-02 01:17:50] <+kunwon1> this is not politics
1498[2018-07-02 01:18:06] <+kunwon1> i'm starting to think you might be a dirty fucking troll
1499[2018-07-02 01:18:14] <VirusInsane> Yeah, it's not. So let's discuss politics.
1500[2018-07-02 01:18:19] <kitties> the youth isn't so easy to offend as you think
1501[2018-07-02 01:18:32] <kitties> they might be more aware, but that doesn't make them more offended
1502[2018-07-02 01:19:08] <kitties> https://www.thedailybeast.com/michelle-wolf-compares-ivanka-trump-to-herpes-you-always-show-up-when-were-about-to-get-fcked
1503[2018-07-02 01:19:08] <+subtitle> [ Michelle Wolf Compares Ivanka Trump to Herpes: ‘You Always Show Up When We’re About to Get F*cked’ ]
1504[2018-07-02 01:20:01] <VirusInsane> Exerting control is the work of a desperate mind. That's what governments and institutions do. The more laws and 'rules' they create, the more it shows how depseate for control they are, because in the lives of most people, they have very litlte control. They exert it where they can, and sometimes go overboard. This current administration, is clearly a case in point.
1505[2018-07-02 01:20:36] <VirusInsane> Aware of what, kitties?
1506[2018-07-02 01:20:54] <kitties> awareness of things that might be offensive
1507[2018-07-02 01:20:58] <+kunwon1> hey VirusInsane guess what, now you're being banned for being a troll
1508[2018-07-02 01:21:01] <+kunwon1> how'd that work out for you
1509[2018-07-02 01:21:04] <VirusInsane> I don't care.
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1518[2018-07-02 17:36:47] <tsarbomba> this is true. obama tried to harm conservatives.
1519[2018-07-02 17:36:58] <lupine> it's why woo practitioners tend to be discouraged
1520[2018-07-02 17:36:59] <tsarbomba> he also welcomed shariat with open arms.
1521[2018-07-02 17:37:04] <guideX> well, politicians will help people who are on their side
1522[2018-07-02 17:37:10] <ShakespeareFan02> lupine: So that the ineffective or harmful ones aren't used?
1523[2018-07-02 17:37:12] <guideX> so why would you give them control of healthcare
1524[2018-07-02 17:37:14] <tsarbomba> like obama and ISIS
1525[2018-07-02 17:37:15] <lupine> yeah
1526[2018-07-02 17:37:22] <lupine> in .us, your healthcare premiums go and fund reiki practioners or whatever for other people
1527[2018-07-02 17:37:32] <lupine> it's nuts
1528[2018-07-02 17:37:50] <tsarbomba> it is the height of socialism for liberals to expect my premiums to pay for their health care
1529[2018-07-02 17:37:54] <ShakespeareFan02> lupine: IIRC the NHS is going to cull some procedures that aren't clinically effective or necessary
1530[2018-07-02 17:38:01] <ShakespeareFan02> which is long overdue
1531[2018-07-02 17:38:03] <lupine> yeah, it's a mixed bag
1532[2018-07-02 17:38:12] <lupine> and the motive is wrong, regardless
1533[2018-07-02 17:38:33] <tsarbomba> shakespearefan02, will they eliminate on-demand abortion which has been proven to increase the risk of cancer?
1534[2018-07-02 17:38:34] <lupine> tsarbomba: insurance is *exactly* socialised risk
1535[2018-07-02 17:39:01] <ShakespeareFan02> Well if it was about 'clinical effectiveness' culling bad procedures would be a good thing, but given the current UK govt, I wonder if culling stuff has more to do with budgets..
1536[2018-07-02 17:39:09] <lupine> lower-risk individuals do pay lower premiums, but they still fund the healthcare of higher-risk people
1537[2018-07-02 17:39:25] <lupine> note that risk varies by several order of magnitude, while premiums do not
1538[2018-07-02 17:39:36] <ShakespeareFan02> lupine: As was saying earlier, the amount I pay for 'healthcare' may change soon
1539[2018-07-02 17:39:43] <tsarbomba> high-risk pools solve that problem
1540[2018-07-02 17:39:51] <tsarbomba> let the sick pay for their own care
1541[2018-07-02 17:40:05] <lupine> that might take one order of magnitude away
1542[2018-07-02 17:40:07] <ShakespeareFan02> Some sickness is not a lifestyle or market choice
1543[2018-07-02 17:40:08] <lupine> you're still left with 2 or so
1544[2018-07-02 17:40:15] <tsarbomba> why should i have to pay for people who have lived the hunter s. thompson lifestyle all their lives when i've done nothing but kept myself healthy and in shape?
1545[2018-07-02 17:40:27] <lupine> if you pay exactly and only for your own healthcare, then there is no point to it being an insurance model
1546[2018-07-02 17:40:36] <lupine> you might as well just pay individual itemized bills
1547[2018-07-02 17:40:50] <guideX> the companies who offer insurance can deal with those kinds of issues, the government need not get involved imo
1548[2018-07-02 17:40:56] <tsarbomba> we would like to but unfortunately liberals outlawed that, too
1549[2018-07-02 17:41:11] <ShakespeareFan02> tsarbomba: You sound like you would oppose 'nanny' taxes as well
1550[2018-07-02 17:41:15] <tsarbomba> thankfully president trump has made it an option again. no taxes for refusing insurance.
1551[2018-07-02 17:41:20] <tsarbomba> i oppose all taxes.
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1553[2018-07-02 17:41:34] <tsarbomba> if the government can't run on its own wiles, it has no business governing
1554[2018-07-02 17:41:44] <ShakespeareFan02> By nanny taxes I mean things like the tax on soft drinks the UK is implementing
1555[2018-07-02 17:41:53] <tsarbomba> taxation is theft
1556[2018-07-02 17:42:19] <ShakespeareFan02> tsarbomba: So rather than have one crook in town (the govt), you'd prefer several? XD
1557[2018-07-02 17:42:42] <tsarbomba> i can handle crooks.
1558[2018-07-02 17:42:42] <lupine> welp, thanks for indulging me
1559[2018-07-02 17:42:46] <guideX> the thing is, the insurance companies have no incentive to offer a cheap, or a good product this way.
1560[2018-07-02 17:42:49] <tsarbomba> i have bigger guns than the crooks do.
1561[2018-07-02 17:42:52] <lupine> I have not fulfiled my nostalgia quotient for the day
1562[2018-07-02 17:42:55] <lupine> now*
1563[2018-07-02 17:42:56] <tsarbomba> but the government has an unfair advantage
1564[2018-07-02 17:43:00] <guideX> the government will pay them for whatever crappy product
1565[2018-07-02 17:43:10] <lupine> so you can GIT TAE FOOK
1566[2018-07-02 17:43:21] <guideX> they have no reason to compete for a cheaper price, nor do the people have a way to escape with the mandate there
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1571[2018-07-02 17:44:13] <ShakespeareFan02> lupine: Was there a labour candidate somewhere that wanted to abolish things like BUPA?
1572[2018-07-02 17:44:34] <ShakespeareFan02> I felt such a move would be rather worrying..
1573[2018-07-02 17:44:48] <ShakespeareFan02> Given that there are things an NHS would never be able to cover.
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1575[2018-07-02 18:05:03] <_kmh_> free trade and nafta was gop policy
1576[2018-07-02 18:05:07] <dataman2> wrong
1577[2018-07-02 18:05:18] <_kmh_> from reagan all the way to bush
1578[2018-07-02 18:05:34] <_kmh_> and it was done by GOP congress together with clinton
1579[2018-07-02 18:05:41] <slndr> trump said it was a democrat deal, so it must be
1580[2018-07-02 18:05:47] <slndr>  /s
1581[2018-07-02 18:05:48] <dataman2> Who was president in 1993 when NAFTA was signed into law _kmh_
1582[2018-07-02 18:05:50] <_kmh_> slndr,  lol
1583[2018-07-02 18:05:50] <dataman2> quit lying
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1585[2018-07-02 18:06:05] <dataman2> Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law, period.
1586[2018-07-02 18:06:22] <slndr> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nafta.jpg
1587[2018-07-02 18:06:23] <dataman2> next you'll tell us Obamacare was republican
1588[2018-07-02 18:06:23] <+subtitle> [ File:Nafta.jpg - Wikipedia ]
1589[2018-07-02 18:06:26] <_kmh_> <_kmh_> and it was done by GOP congress together with clinton <--- which part of that didn't you understand?
1590[2018-07-02 18:06:29] <slndr> look, clinto is not in the picture
1591[2018-07-02 18:06:30] <slndr> hum
1592[2018-07-02 18:06:41] <dataman2> NAFTA was signed into law in 1993
1593[2018-07-02 18:06:44] <+kunwon1> dataman2: discuss and debate, don't troll
1594[2018-07-02 18:06:53] <dataman2> kunwon1 I'm correcting facts. That is not trolling
1595[2018-07-02 18:06:58] <dataman2> 1993 was Clinton presidency
1596[2018-07-02 18:06:59] <kitties> also it's a bit odd to blame nafta for detroit's auto industry troubles
1597[2018-07-02 18:07:04] <dataman2> no it's not
1598[2018-07-02 18:07:06] <kitties> it's not like canada or mexico are large exporters of automobiles
1599[2018-07-02 18:07:07] <+kunwon1> you are trolling and you need to alter your behavior to avoid an imminent ban, dataman2
1600[2018-07-02 18:07:34] <dataman2> kunwon1 quit being disengenuous and trying to get me booted. The fact is Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law and there's no debating that fact.
1601[2018-07-02 18:07:35] <slndr> >The impetus for a North American free trade zone began with U.S. President Ronald Reagan, who made the idea part of his campaign when he announced his candidacy for the presidency in November 1979
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1603[2018-07-02 18:07:43] <lupine> I remember mexican cars
1604[2018-07-02 18:07:45] kunwon1 kicked dataman2 from the channel (last warning)
1605[2018-07-02 18:07:46] <lupine> not terrible
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1608[2018-07-02 18:08:01] <kitties> yeah, i mean they exist, they're just not, well, sizeable exports
1609[2018-07-02 18:08:12] <_kmh_> "After much consideration and emotional discussion, the US House of Representatives passed the North American Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act on November 17, 1993, 234–200. The agreement's supporters included 132 Republicans and 102 Democrats. The bill passed the Senate on November 20, 1993, 61–38.[21] Senate supporters were 34 Republicans and 27 Democrats"
1610[2018-07-02 18:08:15] <dataman2> American auto market was washed away by NAFTA. All of the cars are made in Mexico now
1611[2018-07-02 18:08:26] <dataman2> Bill Clinton signed NAFTA into law in 1993
1612[2018-07-02 18:08:26] <lupine> if only
1613[2018-07-02 18:08:29] <_kmh_> so it was clearly a gop policy
1614[2018-07-02 18:08:32] <lupine> mexican cars are far more efficient
1615[2018-07-02 18:08:39] <+kunwon1> dataman2: how do you respond to what _kmh_ just pasted?
1616[2018-07-02 18:08:41] <lupine> US cars are environmental disasters
1617[2018-07-02 18:08:43] <_kmh_> in cooperation with clinton
1618[2018-07-02 18:09:13] <slndr> yeah, so a plan that was creted by republicans, nogotiated by republicans and signed by a democrat is a democrats fault
1619[2018-07-02 18:09:15] <_kmh_> lupine,  no
1620[2018-07-02 18:09:29] <lupine> fite me irl
1621[2018-07-02 18:09:40] <_kmh_> lupine,  the mexicans mostly just build American and European crap cars
1622[2018-07-02 18:09:44] <dataman2> Notable that I get banned for saying who signed NAFTA into law.
1623[2018-07-02 18:09:48] <lupine> we'll do an energy efficiency drive in mexican vs american cars
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1626[2018-07-02 18:09:55] <_kmh_> lupine,  which are anything but environmentally friendly
1627[2018-07-02 18:09:57] kunwon1 kicked dataman2 from the channel (no intent to debate)
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1629[2018-07-02 18:10:17] <kitties> > From its peak labor force of 90,000 around 1930, the number of workers there declined to 30,000 by 1960 and only about 6,000 by 1990. This decline was mainly due to automation.[12]
1630[2018-07-02 18:10:18] <kitties> huh
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1632[2018-07-01 19:42:52] <Rothstein> its true
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1634[2018-07-01 19:42:59] <Rothstein> they pray to samples of
1635[2018-07-01 19:43:06] <+audrey> I kind of miss the 1990s atheist Russia
1636[2018-07-01 19:43:08] <Rothstein> john pauls blood in poland
1637[2018-07-01 19:43:11] <+audrey> now the church is in bed with Putin
1638[2018-07-01 19:43:18] <Rothstein> well
1639[2018-07-01 19:43:20] <Rothstein> yes
1640[2018-07-01 19:43:21] <Rothstein> true
1641[2018-07-01 19:43:28] <Rothstein> its about establishing an identity
1642[2018-07-01 19:43:28] <iodev> neomarxism is what I hate the most
1643[2018-07-01 19:43:40] <Rothstein> they have this russian notion of
1644[2018-07-01 19:43:47] <Rothstein> purity, something like that
1645[2018-07-01 19:44:03] <+audrey> People complain about godless Soviet culture, the problem is that what came before was hardly better unless you were super rich and/or piously religious
1646[2018-07-01 19:44:04] <Rothstein> which incorporates the state, the traditional beliefs of the  church,
1647[2018-07-01 19:44:16] <Rothstein> violence against gay people
1648[2018-07-01 19:44:24] <+audrey> Yup, that's why I don't go back there any more, really
1649[2018-07-01 19:44:25] <iodev> Rothstein: gays are not okay
1650[2018-07-01 19:44:29] <iodev> I am no liberal!
1651[2018-07-01 19:44:31] <Rothstein> oh, and the freedom to quash opposition
1652[2018-07-01 19:44:44] <Rothstein> because how dare they oppose this perfect form
1653[2018-07-01 19:44:48] <+kunwon1> iodev: that's not acceptable here, no hate speech
1654[2018-07-01 19:44:49] <+audrey> I don't even like going down south where I can't hold hands with my partner
1655[2018-07-01 19:45:01] <Rothstein> iodev: i know its not ok in many places
1656[2018-07-01 19:45:08] <iodev> kunwon1: hate speech, I just said I do not agree
1657[2018-07-01 19:45:09] <+audrey> russia? eeeh. maybe Moscow. I wouldn't dare to go further afield, though.
1658[2018-07-01 19:45:20] <iodev> they can creap into some hole or something, just don't parade on the streets
1659[2018-07-01 19:45:22] <+audrey> wait, you don't agree with me being lesbian?
1660[2018-07-01 19:45:25] <iodev> they can live ...
1661[2018-07-01 19:45:26] <+audrey> do you agree with me being white?
1662[2018-07-01 19:45:28] <+kunwon1> iodev: if you continue to argue i will ban you, if you continue on this topic i will ban you
1663[2018-07-01 19:45:28] <Rothstein> however, it is your own business in the west
1664[2018-07-01 19:45:32] <iodev> kunwon1: okay
1665[2018-07-01 19:45:33] <iodev> fine
1666[2018-07-01 19:45:36] <iodev> I stop
1667[2018-07-01 19:45:39] • audrey: shrug
1668[2018-07-01 19:45:43] <Rothstein> again
1669[2018-07-01 19:45:46] <Rothstein> we all know
1670[2018-07-01 19:45:51] <+audrey> I don't care about homophobes anymore
1671[2018-07-01 19:45:59] <+audrey> just don't try to harm me, and we're fine
1672[2018-07-01 19:45:59] <Rothstein> if you go slightly east of central in europe
1673[2018-07-01 19:46:05] <Rothstein> actually central already
1674[2018-07-01 19:46:18] <iodev> audrey: I don't care either what you do in your personal life
1675[2018-07-01 19:46:20] <Rothstein> there's a lot of prejudice against LGBT stuff
1676[2018-07-01 19:46:28] <iodev> the problem is that gays should not adopt children
1677[2018-07-01 19:46:36] <iodev> that is not something ... that can be tolerated
1678[2018-07-01 19:46:37] <Rothstein> ok ok
1679[2018-07-01 19:46:38] <Rothstein> stop
1680[2018-07-01 19:46:43] <Rothstein> lkike you made your point
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1686[2018-07-01 19:46:53] <Rothstein> he's a kid
1687[2018-07-01 19:47:03] <Rothstein> and its true kunwon1
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1689[2018-07-04 21:20:06] <kitties> perhaps relatedly: https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/8w0w72/til_that_in_2015_the_town_of_collecchio_in_italy/
1690[2018-07-04 21:20:07] <+Hoffman> you'd be working to stop a symptom rather than a cause
1691[2018-07-04 21:20:10] <+subtitle> [ TIL that in 2015 the town of Collecchio in Italy passed a law requiring the use of "silent fireworks" to help reduce stress on veterans, pets, children, and wildlife. While not completely silent, they are much quieter than traditional fireworks and can be more colorful. : todayilearned ]
1692[2018-07-04 21:20:21] <lupine> Hoffman: because people used to throw them at me
1693[2018-07-04 21:20:27] <+Hoffman> it probably does them a disservice by hiding the problem too
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1695[2018-07-04 21:20:34] <kitties> lupine: that sounds traumatic; have you sought treatment for your trauma
1696[2018-07-04 21:20:39] <+kunwon1> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/technology-innovation/aerial-technology-light-show.html
1697[2018-07-04 21:20:40] <+subtitle> [ Drone Light Shows Powered by Intel ]
1698[2018-07-04 21:20:41] <+kunwon1> more of this
1699[2018-07-04 21:20:43] <lupine> of course not
1700[2018-07-04 21:20:46] <+Hoffman> lupine: that sucks
1701[2018-07-04 21:21:17] <michaelrose> I don't want silent fireworks because people can't put in earbuds for one day and listen to tunes
1702[2018-07-04 21:21:17] <lupine> selling fireworks to anyone who comes along is a terrible idea
1703[2018-07-04 21:21:29] <lupine> I guess they're ok for licensed displayed
1704[2018-07-04 21:21:53] <lupine> licensed displays*
1705[2018-07-04 21:22:18] <lupine> but the idea that some lairy 18-year-old can go pick up a bunch then pop down to the local park to chuck them at his enemies has no supporting argument
1706[2018-07-04 21:22:30] <+justanotheruser> kunwon1: drone military parades
1707[2018-07-04 21:22:44] <michaelrose> lupine, support your argument with the current negative stats
1708[2018-07-04 21:22:45] <+kunwon1> no, drone love parade
1709[2018-07-04 21:22:46] <+kunwon1> s
1710[2018-07-04 21:22:57] <lupine> michaelrose: or what?
1711[2018-07-04 21:22:58] <michaelrose> also show that fireworks are more dangerous than say bikes
1712[2018-07-04 21:23:04] <+justanotheruser> the love industrial complex won't pay intels bills!
1713[2018-07-04 21:23:09] <lupine> fuck off
1714[2018-07-04 21:23:10] <michaelrose> lupine, or your opinion is unfounded and unreasonable
1715[2018-07-04 21:23:21] <lupine> oh noes however will I cope with such an intellectual weight?
1716[2018-07-04 21:23:28] <michaelrose> Its not my fault your not smart enough to defend your argument
1717[2018-07-04 21:23:33] <lupine> you're*
1718[2018-07-04 21:23:35] <+kunwon1> michaelrose: don't be a troll
1719[2018-07-04 21:23:55] <michaelrose> I'm not I don't believe his argument is reasonable
1720[2018-07-04 21:24:01] <+kunwon1> you are, and i don't care
1721[2018-07-04 21:24:06] <+kunwon1> stop it or else
1722[2018-07-04 21:24:13] • lupine: throws fireworks at michaelrose
1723[2018-07-04 21:24:16] <michaelrose> lol
1724[2018-07-04 21:24:19] <lupine> run boi, run
1725[2018-07-04 21:24:25] <+pnint2> I'm not. I don't believe his argument is reasonable*
1726[2018-07-04 21:24:39] <+Hoffman> michaelrose: you are asking in a very antagonistic manner
1727[2018-07-04 21:24:48] <+kunwon1> it's been dealth with, drop it
1728[2018-07-04 21:24:48] <+Hoffman> and worse, doing it to a stranger
1729[2018-07-04 21:24:53] <+Hoffman> ok
1730[2018-07-04 21:25:04] <+Hoffman> I was ignoring your actions kunwon1 per your usual request :P
1731[2018-07-04 21:25:07] <+macrobat> earbuds is not sufficient
1732[2018-07-04 21:25:09] <+Hoffman> dont discuss op stuff
1733[2018-07-04 21:25:11] <michaelrose> Hoffman, yes I was but he told me to fuck off first when I asked him to support his argument reasonably
1734[2018-07-04 21:25:11] <+kunwon1> fucking christ
1735[2018-07-04 21:25:12] <+kunwon1> drop it
1736[2018-07-04 21:25:16] <+Hoffman> ok
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1742[2018-07-04 21:30:22] <+DoYouKnow> I heard some very loud events at the restaurant
1743[2018-07-04 21:30:40] <+justanotheruser> lupine: in america I was able to go get fireworks when I wasn't even a teen
1744[2018-07-04 21:30:40] <+DoYouKnow> I think they were fireworks
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1759[2018-05-28 01:15:41] <BlueLobster> week?
1760[2018-05-28 01:16:03] <BlueLobster> the first week of the french open is like the least relevant week in tennis.
1761[2018-05-28 01:16:12] <BlueLobster> although there were some major upsets today.
1762[2018-05-28 01:16:26] <BlueLobster> I'll go for the second week. :p
1763[2018-05-28 01:23:49] <+justanotheruser> please take this to #boringsports
1764[2018-05-28 01:26:21] chips (~sava@pool-71-172-240-92.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) joined the channel
1765[2018-05-28 01:26:26] <chips> hello bois
1766[2018-05-28 01:26:35] <BlueLobster> hey sexy
1767[2018-05-28 01:26:49] <BlueLobster> you wearin?
1768[2018-05-28 01:27:01] <chips> im wearin a shirt with a fasces on it
1769[2018-05-28 01:27:14] <chips> with a Nazi Germany flag behind me as i am a devout alt righter
1770[2018-05-28 01:27:15] <chips> you?
1771[2018-05-28 01:27:43] <fChanX> I am wearing a gasmask.
1772[2018-05-28 01:27:50] <chips> nice nice
1773[2018-05-28 01:28:06] <BlueLobster> chaps and a codpiece  here
1774[2018-05-28 01:28:16] <chips> so what are your actual political beliefs
1775[2018-05-28 01:28:26] <chips> i'm just a plain ol' fascist with some white nationalism involved
1776[2018-05-28 01:29:48] <+justanotheruser> chips: but aren't jews superior to whites?
1777[2018-05-28 01:29:57] <+justanotheruser> after all, they have higher IQs and tend to be more successful
1778[2018-05-28 01:30:30] <chips> Yes and they use it for evil
1779[2018-05-28 01:30:48] <chips> they also overexaggerate the holocaust to justify their ownership of israel
1780[2018-05-28 01:31:16] <+justanotheruser> don't white people use their intelligence for evil as well?
1781[2018-05-28 01:31:46] <chips> not really
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1783[2018-05-28 01:32:53] <+justanotheruser> seems to me that lots of jews and whites do evil, and lots of jews and whites do good
1784[2018-05-28 01:33:30] <+justanotheruser> e.g. nobel prizes in physics and chemistry
1785[2018-05-28 01:33:35] <chips> they want the whites dead, the jews
1786[2018-05-28 01:33:45] <+justanotheruser> are you a collectivist?
1787[2018-05-28 01:33:58] <chips> we're the only race that poses a real threat towards their ownership of banks and the world economy
1788[2018-05-28 01:34:01] <chips> and yes
1789[2018-05-28 01:34:43] <+justanotheruser> hmm, isn't the biggest bank in the US (JP Morgan) run by a white guy?
1790[2018-05-28 01:34:59] <+justanotheruser> hmm, and the chairman of the federal reserve isn't jewish either
1791[2018-05-28 01:35:00] <+justanotheruser> hmmmmmmm
1792[2018-05-28 01:35:21] <chips> Yes, but that's not the point. They own most of the banks and the world economy and they tend to be greedy at all times
1793[2018-05-28 01:35:27] <chips> Which explains why most of them are capitalist
1794[2018-05-28 01:35:48] <+justanotheruser> hmmm, proof by contradiction isn't the point? hmmmmmmmmm
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1800[2018-05-28 01:40:22] <mabus> jews, like all humans, tend to be greedy
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1803[2018-05-28 15:03:05] <acutulus>  or increasing power within an organization: yet another discussion of office politics and personalities.
1804[2018-05-28 15:03:24] <+meowschwitz> cata-doxas: consumed or produced
1805[2018-05-28 15:03:25] <lupine> See, this is why I don't popalong to a dictionary
1806[2018-05-28 15:03:34] <lupine> It's not very useful
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1808[2018-05-28 15:03:39] <acutulus> ....
1809[2018-05-28 15:03:46] <cata-doxas> meowschwitz, produced
1810[2018-05-28 15:04:48] <lupine> So pick a description you think is better, we can go from there
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1812[2018-05-28 15:04:59] <Byteflux> i still think the shit flinging one is best
1813[2018-05-28 15:05:03] <Byteflux> let's use that
1814[2018-05-28 15:05:11] <+meowschwitz> cata-doxas: so a pro then
1815[2018-05-28 15:05:19] <cata-doxas> poly-tics (many bloodsucking creatures)
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1817[2018-05-28 15:06:33] <lupine> Unless, of course, you're incapable
1818[2018-05-28 15:06:51] <Byteflux> damn, shit's getting real
1819[2018-05-28 15:06:54] <Byteflux> about to be a fight in here
1820[2018-05-28 15:07:00] <lupine> "Hur your definition is bullshit but I cannot express why"
1821[2018-05-28 15:07:22] <Byteflux> ok bored of 2nd grade instigating now, gonna go smoke some weed
1822[2018-05-28 15:07:32] <pingfloyd> gonna?
1823[2018-05-28 15:07:41] <lupine> Gunna get me sum
1824[2018-05-28 15:07:41] <pingfloyd> I haven't stopped smoking it this whole time
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1826[2018-05-28 15:09:29] <acutulus> oh wow really?
1827[2018-05-28 15:09:42] <acutulus> lupine, your definition is bullshit because it has no context
1828[2018-05-28 15:09:45] <+kunwon1> https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1000560049389907969
1829[2018-05-28 15:09:46] <+subtitle> [ Elon Musk: “@joshuatopolsky @oneunderscore__ @ParkerMolloy @2sunsky @ashleyfeinberg Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello.” ]
1830[2018-05-28 15:09:56] <+kunwon1> elon is going full retard
1831[2018-05-28 15:10:07] <acutulus> politics refers to activities with very specific context: governance
1832[2018-05-28 15:10:08] <cata-doxas> hes dating that musician
1833[2018-05-28 15:10:11] <lupine> Acutulus: in fact, the context was the discussion we were in
1834[2018-05-28 15:10:14] <acutulus> here's what happened though
1835[2018-05-28 15:10:14] <cata-doxas> maybe they took some drugs
1836[2018-05-28 15:10:20] <cata-doxas> elon and whatshername
1837[2018-05-28 15:10:29] <lupine> You were arguing that power is separate from politics
1838[2018-05-28 15:10:37] <lupine> I was arguing that power *is* politics
1839[2018-05-28 15:10:43] <cata-doxas> it depends a bit
1840[2018-05-28 15:10:47] <cata-doxas> if you have a military junta
1841[2018-05-28 15:10:48] <cata-doxas> its not
1842[2018-05-28 15:10:49] <acutulus> as often happens in this channel, I got simultaneously fed up of discussing things, and felt a sudden urge to read things so I don't end up as ignorant as the person with whom I got fed up
1843[2018-05-28 15:10:53] <cata-doxas> in social democracies
1844[2018-05-28 15:11:01] nsh- is now known as nsh
1845[2018-05-28 15:11:03] • spruit11: trying to count back how often he got 'assaulted'.
1846[2018-05-28 15:11:06] <cata-doxas> politics has a lot of powers but nowhere near as much as it used to have after ww2
1847[2018-05-28 15:11:13] <cata-doxas> a lot of power moved to the private section
1848[2018-05-28 15:11:13] <acutulus> so I'm going to return to my book now, and you can go ahead emptying your empty head into the channel, k?
1849[2018-05-28 15:11:15] <cata-doxas> and billionaires
1850[2018-05-28 15:11:16] <spruit11> Probably forgot most of it.
1851[2018-05-28 15:11:25] <lupine> In particular, that power relations in society are maintained by political action that is, itself, a power relation
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1856[2018-05-28 17:13:03] <cata-doxas> banjo music fades in
1857[2018-05-28 17:13:04] <Cowclops> so they set their oven to 160 F
1858[2018-05-28 17:13:07] <kitties> spruit11: i don't see that for you, so your irc connection is probably not secured
1859[2018-05-28 17:13:11] <_kmh_> Byteflux,  i'm afraid so, those 2 were just one of the worst examples stopped at the last minute
1860[2018-05-28 17:13:13] <Cowclops> then when the cake is shitty they blame the recipe
1861[2018-05-28 17:13:37] <Cowclops> i feel like thats a plausible real world "I don't believe in facts or processes and theres no such thing as right and wrong"
1862[2018-05-28 17:13:46] <kitties> spruit11: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
1863[2018-05-28 17:13:47] <+subtitle> [ Connecting with SASL - freenode ]
1864[2018-05-28 17:13:47] • Tywin: hands Cowclops a MAGA hat
1865[2018-05-28 17:13:56] <Tywin> Cowclops, it's ok, friend. It's ok.
1866[2018-05-28 17:13:56] <Cowclops> tywin: No thanks, i'm fine
1867[2018-05-28 17:14:03] <Byteflux> you can't even wear a maga hat in my neighborhood without getting beat up >_>
1868[2018-05-28 17:14:05] <kitties> burn all maga hats
1869[2018-05-28 17:14:06] <Byteflux> happened here
1870[2018-05-28 17:14:07] <Cowclops> byteflux: good.
1871[2018-05-28 17:14:17] <Cowclops> #punchanazi
1872[2018-05-28 17:14:18] <nuit> Byteflux: good start
1873[2018-05-28 17:14:23] <kitties> #killanazi
1874[2018-05-28 17:14:24] <nuit> of course not nearly enough
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1876[2018-05-28 17:14:25] <cata-doxas> AX/xAAlEQEBAAIDAQACAQQDAAAAAAAAAQIRAyExEgRBEzNRYcEFIjL/2gAMAwEAAhEDEQA/AOGoQhAIVlpNSKqRjXt6qzmtdYysBAexr24hfskte02O5wU3i+rPovtWe9BVEK1+L+s+h+2Z70eL+s+i+2Z70FUQrX4v6z6L7VnvR4vqz6L7VnvQVRCtfi+rPovtWe9Hi/rPoftme9BVEK1+L+s+h+2Z70eL+s+h+2Z70FUQrX4v6z6H7VnvTJNRaptg50AxGwvPGLngLnMoKuhWvxf1n0P2zPejxf1n0P2zPegqiFa/F/WfQ/bM96PF/WfQ/bM96CqIVr8X9Z9D9sz3o8X9Z9D9sz3oKohWvxf1n0P2zPek/wCAKz6H7ZnvQVVCtR6P6z6H7ZnvUVTqPVMa556mzWPeQJmEkRsdI+wvmcLHG
1877[2018-05-28 17:14:25] <cata-doxas> w4IK0hCEAhCEHp/ohd8Ef30vsuhV5LiqH0SfFH99N7LoVeMa6SdOV9PxHigOKZdIXLWkS4ijEeKgLzwTXTJ8jKxJpcscSFKXHimlTF54pMahxHcgA8bK6RMZFV9c3/xKE8Kxn4sf7lYcA4kqt68RgCkOeVZH+LXrGevl24P6kWkzc00z80NiHA/UlwDh9a105E8I5pPCu9LYfv/AETxGOCdCLwhyOudxUwYOCcWDgm4IesPEp1/+5w9AzTwzgPSUr47ZkhS2BrZcrHMc8r96qvSlIDQPyt2Kj1GqVqay6qXShHahf5tR6jVKZSNS3byuhCFzbCEIQemOik/BH99L7MoVdY5LqmdEwHgrri+dL7MoVehhG5dsb05X0wDvSlikBQbcQm0Q7N6TJSGMcUYwFdiLByTmxu4KUP5p2O3FTdEYjPAJ
1878[2018-05-28 17:14:30] <Cowclops> Whoops.
1879[2018-05-28 17:14:30] <cata-doxas> whKkD0pPNTdVE6BVnX2L+FARuqoj+D1Z3X4qna/yEiKNw/hlwfiuQcbNjQRyz5rj+RyfHHcq9X4PFeXnxxi4NAO9Owc1odV65ssQF7llmnO9xuP4W9C3gct8XJOTCZT9uXPxXi5Lhf0kwIcEzF3Jpz3req5JGyBO6wqJjQN6C7mpoS4yjDfbmsZ0wvmSl8ICvyMwBU/pV+IP82o9RqlZPCFU+k55NC/zKj1GqWbj0svbyyhCFh0CEIQenuiOLFSPz30vsyhV6ZTAb1R+iB3wR/fTey6FXsPW5bpzvper5pgj7ilcmhtkjJ2HkFG+K+4KRj7pcXNOxjtgI3p7U+6W/JXYaG2QSgk7zZVbXfXmn0bES+0k7heKEHtO3XcfkM5nhldFWCrqWMaXPc1rRvJsuZ6c06J5i/Pqm2DLg5j52Hdcn6gF
1880[2018-05-28 17:14:35] <cata-doxas> zSbXaoqqxlRVvBDQ4Njb2ImAg9loJsLm13E32XNhluq/T7XNuIzcjKwD8I3kll233AA3z3b/D+Zjnya45/5fZ/43Ph4MMuW95+Sf7XbRekzBO4OBAFrh3Zu1wBzuOeRV61d0vBWRCWnfibfC4bHMcNrXDcfzGYXKNcdGMrNCQVlOO1TXa8NuSYsWFzXZ3sw2IvsAOxVjow1rdRVTSSOqlLY5gfm3yfyLSb91+K6/i8F4pcZdx5vzvysfybMpjqz3/L0i5gG1MZnsWS4qMsA2L1SvnouqKTwZynjPEJ/VhPqjClpOJCWKIcFmtjHBPAU+zTGEJ4KpdKLSKF9/m1HqNUrvdUzpW+Iv82o9Rqlm5WtSPKSEIWWwhCEHp/ohd8EflvpvZdCryCeSoXRNLakeOdL7MoVd7krpjOnLL1N6fqRg71D2
1881[2018-05-28 17:14:37] <_kmh_> cata-doxas,  geezus
1882[2018-05-28 17:14:39] <nuit> nice
1883[2018-05-28 17:14:40] <cata-doxas> uKUDmVdMnubzQXNH7uk6sb/AM0uQ2BFOvwBSqMkb0txzU0Ecea83dNDf/dZTs7EXp/hjP8AfBekA5vALg3/AKgQPDYCG2Jp7Ej5VpHWHov+K0scybC4i7Gl1vKIBNh6PSrTTQjCQJrB2E+SDbK9gbbNii1brpIo3MY5vaNy1zWuBI2G/lDK4yIWofJM4FoIDJDisLZYzk0HbbNcbd13wymKZms08UU8ELy2OfE2Tg9hccgN1xtO3MrD0PTOllZGwXc9zWgcS42H5paygeG4nDZbZ++a6h0D6sB7310guIz1cII+XbtvHcDYcyeC6YOeVdugAa1rb3IAH1CykMluKj9KCeaunM48ynB9lEXc/wCqXFltKaVkCRL1oWH6fySqfJtldaFT+lR4NA/zaj1GqVlKqfSefgL/ADKj1GqS49LL28tIQ
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1886[2018-05-28 17:14:44] <Cowclops> cata-doxas: careful pasting links from google images, lol
1887[2018-05-28 17:14:45] kunwon1 sets mode -o kunwon1
1888[2018-05-28 17:15:03] <_kmh_> Cowclops,  i hate google for that
1889[2018-05-28 17:15:06] <Cowclops> shit like that used to happen to me all the time
1890[2018-05-28 17:15:12] <Cowclops> so i would paste a url into notepad before pasting into irc
1891[2018-05-28 17:15:18] <Byteflux> this had actually happened like only days after a fatal shooting incident where a police shot a mentally ill man who had a vape in his hand
1892[2018-05-28 17:15:21] <Cowclops> because on mirc if you just hit ctrl-v, no stoping that train
1893[2018-05-28 17:15:24] <Byteflux> so people were already riled up
1894[2018-05-28 17:15:27] <Cowclops> and if you copy paste from google, it doesn't tell you what you've copied.
1895[2018-05-28 17:15:31] <Byteflux> http://thedailyaztec.com/80228/news/san-diego-state-student-attacked-for-supporting-donald-trump/
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1897[2018-05-28 17:15:32] <+subtitle> [ San Diego State student attacked for supporting Donald Trump – The Daily Aztec ]
1898[2018-05-28 17:15:33] <Cowclops> until you paste. which is already too late
1899[2018-05-28 17:15:33] <cata-doxas> Pd9xj/VrFtrcjtrNEU7H9YyJjHnLE1oBPfbuCmcOd/6elcKf0zSn/nu+4x/q0eOWT+c77jH+rSUrubhbjt/efBRvyuTawGZOwDeVw/xySfz3Zf+DH+rUc3S857XMdM4tcCHDwGPMEWI+N8Fr6TTs5r4Lj+PFdzcTe23NnzhnsyOaT+0ISQ0TRkuOEAPbdxOwDPMrhQ11ikB7LpA2PAT4CH2jD8difDNmK5JO3eoYteqdubbtOMSXbRgHGNjritvdPo+XfH6SgaS100YcCQQZGggtbidcE7hmVWukWsjkoXiORj7MnPYcHWBoKu2zjYrltR0hRPJLnvNy5x+CWF3nE42FbYdoB2Wx3a25rGqdeITDLG0vtIyW4bTNjxyPp5YGOc81Tzl1tycJJDQNwUuWyYudoQhZaCtPRrrEaHSEEpeWxF4Z
1900[2018-05-28 17:15:36] <Cowclops> WTF!?!?!
1901[2018-05-28 17:15:38] <+kunwon1> look kid
1902[2018-05-28 17:15:38] <cata-doxas> ML2aY33aS4bCG4sWfzVVkIOyal+E0msVRSOke6NzphKXPP/AMTm44ZSSfLzhAO3tWCqWjm1Gj59IyOlkbJTNkgxBzmmSeZxijcc+12DLKL38gFbLW7WeOSgppo3fDKiCOCpcCMTGUUhIcSMw6R/VOvwiCZ0l6cirBSmDCJKtkdTVdprW9e1gp2sLnEBmDBLtt5d96CLouMEUwqq0Y2zy+BR4je7p2Hr5TfMhrHsaT9OFVtYdGyUFZNBic18MjmtcDhcW7WPBGzEwtPpW+1l0qaXqaSHwSaKCJoD8NPVB8sgD53h1nFt3uLQMso2rY9IjG10VHXNmpvCXwtiq4hUU4cJIyQyUtD9jhfuAbszQWzXeXSf9pUjqZ04hFPTulc4uFKPKMrpi7+HbDtxct9lS9L11ONPtfo52CE1MDQYiWMJLoxKG
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1904[2018-05-28 17:15:42] <Cowclops> lol
1905[2018-05-28 17:15:43] kunwon1 kicked cata-doxas from the channel (cata-doxas)
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1908[2018-05-28 17:16:03] <Byteflux> he prob has no control over it once he hit the paste
1909[2018-05-28 17:16:07] <Byteflux> gotta let his buffer clear through it
1910[2018-05-28 17:16:09] <Cowclops> Yeah
1911[2018-05-28 17:16:15] <_kmh_> lol
1912--
1913[2018-07-07 00:00:15] <+kunwon1> okay, it's friday, enough schadenfreude for one week
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1916[2018-07-07 00:03:13] <+kunwon1> https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1015369813902987264
1917[2018-07-07 00:03:14] <+subtitle> [ Josh Marshall: “Rep Jordan: Same law firm hired to investigate sexual abuse at my wrestling program was tied to the Steele Dossier. https://t.co/tRHFtR5Vhp” ]
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1920[2018-07-07 00:05:24] <brickie> so Justine Trudy was runnin around without a shirt on in Toronto
1921[2018-07-07 00:05:35] <brickie> those lucky torontonians
1922[2018-07-07 00:05:46] <brickie> what i wouldn't give to see justine trudy without a shirt with my own two eyes
1923[2018-07-07 00:05:57] <+kunwon1> who are you and what are you on about
1924[2018-07-07 00:06:11] <brickie> gropegate
1925[2018-07-07 00:06:17] <+kunwon1> oh, you're ban evading
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1930[2018-07-07 00:15:48] <+kunwon1> https://twitter.com/aurabogado/status/1015335114648084480
1931[2018-07-07 00:15:49] <+subtitle> [ Aura Bogado: “SCOOP: Private ICE contractor @mvminc detained dozens of children, incl toddlers, inside a Phoenix office building with dark windows, no kitchen and only a few toilets over the course of 3 weeks during zero tolerance. FULL STORY: https://t.co/YO2t5bxyPz https://t.co/dTibQEyaLl” ]
1932[2018-07-07 00:17:43] <+kunwon1> https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/1015366821145448448
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1934[2018-07-07 02:45:43] <lupine> Media consumption is a poor way of knowing it
1935[2018-07-07 02:45:47] <uberdub> lol
1936[2018-07-07 02:45:49] <lupine> Personal experience is also poor
1937[2018-07-07 02:45:51] <uberdub> not surprised
1938[2018-07-07 02:46:04] <lupine> Rigorous, peer-reviewed study is somewhat better, but not perfect
1939[2018-07-07 02:46:28] <lupine> So, again, if you have evidence of malfeasance with these numbers, great
1940[2018-07-07 02:46:47] <lupine> Nothing would make me happier than to learn than millions of people aren't actually going hungry
1941[2018-07-07 02:46:53] <lupine> Learn that*
1942[2018-07-07 02:47:06] <uberdub> you dont know anything about it
1943[2018-07-07 02:47:16] <lupine> Well, I rather do
1944[2018-07-07 02:47:47] <uberdub> right, for it is written. ohm
1945[2018-07-07 02:47:50] <lupine> I already expanded on various forms of knowing available to us all, including me
1946[2018-07-07 02:48:03] <sscout> I don't even understand what he's trying to argue, that people aren't poor because ... ?
1947[2018-07-07 02:48:08] <uberdub> you ever been to an american ghetto?
1948[2018-07-07 02:48:33] <lupine> He's trying to argue that being poor is fine, because he was poor once and it was fine
1949[2018-07-07 02:48:39] <lupine> Bless his cotton socks
1950[2018-07-07 02:48:50] <uberdub> I am?
1951[2018-07-07 02:48:56] <lupine> You are
1952[2018-07-07 02:49:07] <uberdub> seems you no more about me than I do. theres the pretention again
1953[2018-07-07 02:49:30] <Byteflux> lol, why are you even still here? you're a bad faith actor.
1954[2018-07-07 02:49:59] <lupine> If you wish to assert otherwise, you'll need to retract some of your earlier statements
1955[2018-07-07 02:50:06] <uberdub> im sure youll ban me for melting snowflakes soon enough
1956[2018-07-07 02:50:15] <lupine> Since such an assertion would be incompatible with them
1957[2018-07-07 02:50:38] <+kunwon1> uberdub: we don't discuss bans in this channel, stick to politics
1958[2018-07-07 02:50:40] <uberdub> right, america is so poor
1959[2018-07-07 02:51:00] <Byteflux> america isn't poor. americans are poor.
1960[2018-07-07 02:51:06] <uberdub> lol
1961[2018-07-07 02:51:10] <lupine> Some of them are
1962[2018-07-07 02:51:18] <Byteflux> lupine, no reason ANY of them should be, either. IMO.
1963[2018-07-07 02:51:18] <lupine> Some are extremely rich
1964[2018-07-07 02:51:20] <uberdub> so poor
1965[2018-07-07 02:51:28] <Byteflux> no good reason, that is.
1966[2018-07-07 02:51:29] <lupine> Indeed
1967[2018-07-07 02:51:36] <uberdub> were just another third world
1968[2018-07-07 02:51:38] <uberdub> so poor
1969[2018-07-07 02:51:54] <lupine> Not that bad at all. Definitely second world thougj
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1971[2018-07-07 02:52:13] <uberdub> i mean homeless people dont have cell phones, and food stamps here. no
1972[2018-07-07 02:52:15] <lupine> The report above provides good global context in which we can place the US
1973[2018-07-07 02:52:34] <uberdub> dont care
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1975[2018-07-07 02:52:40] <lupine> SNAP helps about half of those it needs to help
1976[2018-07-07 02:52:50] <uberdub> reports are obviously gospel, and the ultimate reality
1977[2018-07-07 02:52:51] <lupine> Not amazing, not terrible
1978[2018-07-07 02:53:02] <uberdub> living it isnt reality
1979[2018-07-07 02:53:09] <uberdub> reading it is. amazing
1980[2018-07-07 02:53:10] <Byteflux> sounds like we should be expanding/improving snap, not repeal it.
1981[2018-07-07 02:53:14] <lupine> Not a basis on which to assert hunger is nonexistent
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1987[2018-07-07 02:53:53] <lupine> Direct provision of food would be better
1988[2018-07-07 02:54:06] <Byteflux> there's no good reason anyone in a rich and prosperous country like america should be hungry. need better welfare programs.
1989[2018-07-07 02:54:28] <+kunwon1> direct provision of food would be great
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1991[2018-05-27 22:40:21] <BlueLobster> like a beans for the fibre
1992[2018-05-27 22:40:25] <+kunwon1> sandwich with rice and beans
1993[2018-05-27 22:40:32] <BlueLobster> there ya go
1994[2018-05-27 22:40:36] <BlueLobster> extra pickles
1995[2018-05-27 22:40:42] <+kunwon1> i'm debating ordering more chicken for later
1996[2018-05-27 22:40:50] <BlueLobster> dude get a bucket of dark meat
1997[2018-05-27 22:40:56] <BlueLobster> cold chicken straight out of the fridge is classic
1998[2018-05-27 22:41:02] <BlueLobster> cold fried chicken
1999[2018-05-27 22:41:28] <BlueLobster> the japanese
2000[2018-05-27 22:41:45] <BlueLobster> being japanese, never try to reheat their fried chicken (which is fantastic, the japanese being the japanese)
2001[2018-05-27 22:41:50] <BlueLobster> they put it in soup and enjoy the sog out instead
2002[2018-05-27 22:42:11] <BlueLobster> this is sort of like, how when a vase breaks they repair it with a resin mixed with gold powder
2003[2018-05-27 22:42:20] <BlueLobster> so you definitely see the cracks.  Embrace the imperfection, don't try to bury it.
2004[2018-05-27 22:42:52] <+kunwon1> i like to cut it up and put it on a salad sometimes
2005[2018-05-27 22:42:55] <BlueLobster> you CAN of course reheat fried chicken.  It's just less good than the original wheres cold fried chicken is different.
2006[2018-05-27 22:43:01] <Karpe> oh that's nice
2007[2018-05-27 22:43:10] <BlueLobster> sure
2008[2018-05-27 22:43:15] <BlueLobster> arugula or spinach are good choices there
2009[2018-05-27 22:43:19] <BlueLobster> with whatever cheese is on offer
2010[2018-05-27 22:43:30] <spruit11> Oooh. Pretty. I am with Nero.
2011[2018-05-27 22:43:33] <BlueLobster> sometimes a lightly coddled egg makes a nice dressing
2012[2018-05-27 22:43:48] <+kunwon1> or some caesar
2013[2018-05-27 22:45:39] <lupine> "leftovers"?
2014[2018-05-27 22:45:45] <BlueLobster> well
2015[2018-05-27 22:45:50] <BlueLobster> kunwon1:  I now have to yell at you
2016[2018-05-27 22:46:05] <BlueLobster> caesar salad is literally dressed with a coddled egg, lemon juice, garlic croutons, shaved parm and worcestershire sauce
2017[2018-05-27 22:46:16] <BlueLobster> bottled "caesar" should just be called "creamy italian" with anchovies
2018[2018-05-27 22:46:38] <BlueLobster> not that this is a bad thing.  Sometimes when I want a disgusting giant salad bar salad
2019[2018-05-27 22:46:41] <BlueLobster> I want creamy italian on it.
2020[2018-05-27 22:46:50] <BlueLobster> Usually bleu cheese though.
2021[2018-05-27 22:46:56] <BlueLobster> Never ranch.  Ranch is not a dressing, it is a dip.
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2023[2018-05-27 22:48:01] <+kunwon1> BlueLobster: i precipitated and anticipated this outburst
2024[2018-05-27 22:48:18] <+kunwon1> i said it in a way that i knew would offend you
2025[2018-05-27 22:48:34] <+kunwon1> mainly out of laziness
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2027[2018-05-27 22:49:05] <attitudeadjuster> wow gosh hey everybody
2028[2018-05-27 22:49:31] <spruit11> A bit more too the left, attitudeadjuster..
2029[2018-05-27 22:49:37] <spruit11> *to
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2032[2018-05-27 22:50:05] • attitudeadjuster: smacks spruit11 lightly on the righthand side
2033[2018-05-27 22:50:12] <attitudeadjuster> there you go
2034[2018-05-27 22:50:18] <spruit11> Thanks. I need that.
2035[2018-05-27 22:50:23] <attitudeadjuster> you got it :)
2036[2018-05-27 22:50:53] <lupine> we all need that
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2038[2018-05-27 22:51:18] <BlueLobster> poor justan can't even eat a caesar salad
2039[2018-05-27 22:52:27] <attitudeadjuster> whocares
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2046[2018-05-27 22:55:35] <BlueLobster> I dunno man
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2048[2018-05-27 22:55:40] <BlueLobster> a lotof the best salads aren't vegetarian
2049[2018-05-27 22:55:50] <BlueLobster> like som tom
2050[2018-05-27 22:59:55] <_W_> ham and cheese is a salad, right? Or do you have to add pasta to it for it to count?
2051[2018-05-27 23:00:44] <_W_> ah, yes, wikipedia agrees, "usually vegetables" and "may contain virtually any type of ready-to-eat food"
2052[2018-05-27 23:00:46] <Karpe> letuce should do, and perhaps some sauce/dressing as well
2053[2018-05-27 23:01:06] <Karpe> "usually vegetables" sounds right
2054[2018-05-27 23:01:09] <+kunwon1> if tuna and mayo is a salad, then pretty much anything is
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2056[2018-05-27 23:02:18] <Karpe> tastes better with sweet corn
2057[2018-05-27 23:04:09] <+kunwon1> wow, it hit 100F today
2058[2018-05-27 23:04:58] <+kunwon1> record high temperature
2059[2018-05-27 23:05:31] <_W_> Tyranny is currently free to play on Steam, and I have to recommend people at least check it out - I'm enjoying it quite a lot, and will probably buy it if I don't finish the game while it's free
2060[2018-05-27 23:05:44] <BlueLobster> a salad is just something chopped and dressed more or less
2061[2018-05-27 23:05:47] <_W_> (Isometric RPG using same engine as Pillars of Eternity, but with a much better story and plotting)
2062[2018-05-27 23:05:53] <BlueLobster> but sometimes it's not dressed r even mixed
2063[2018-05-27 23:09:43] <+cloe> i made chicken salad this weekend.  again.
2064[2018-05-27 23:09:46] <+cloe> yum.
2065[2018-05-27 23:11:04] <+cloe> celery, applies, grapes, walnuts.  a squeeze of fresh orange.  1/2 mayo 1/2 strawberry yogurt.
2066[2018-05-27 23:11:17] <+cloe> -i
2067[2018-05-27 23:12:21] <acutulus> I don't suppose anyone in here has read anything by Dambisa Moyo?
2068[2018-05-27 23:16:05] <+cloe> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_the_longest_marriages
2069[2018-05-27 23:16:06] <+subtitle> [ List of people with the longest marriages - Wikipedia ]
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2074[2018-05-27 23:19:25] <+justanotheruser> tuna + mayo = tuna
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2076[2018-05-27 23:19:32] <+justanotheruser> just ask subway
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2079[2018-07-08 14:31:47] <pingfloyd> it's never worked like Kiss imagines
2080[2018-07-08 14:31:51] <Kiss> not really at all
2081[2018-07-08 14:32:03] <Kiss> iraq wasn't in an information blackout and the entire country enslaved
2082[2018-07-08 14:32:04] <AimHere> Invade a country quickly, launch a bunch of DeBaathification programs and watch as the country retaliated
2083[2018-07-08 14:32:12] <AimHere> Haha
2084[2018-07-08 14:32:21] <Kiss> and we stayed in iraq
2085[2018-07-08 14:32:25] <Kiss> should've just left
2086[2018-07-08 14:34:29] <pingfloyd> because we're going to leave all that oil behind :P
2087[2018-07-08 14:34:41] <Kiss> exactly
2088[2018-07-08 14:34:51] <Kiss> but we should've imo
2089[2018-07-08 14:35:02] <pingfloyd> we shouldn't have been there to begin with
2090[2018-07-08 14:35:16] <Kiss> based on the intel we had at the time we should have
2091[2018-07-08 14:35:17] <pingfloyd> the whole thing was stupid and accomplished nothing.
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2093[2018-07-08 14:35:45] <Kiss> well...  saddam is dead
2094[2018-07-08 14:35:50] <pingfloyd> so
2095[2018-07-08 14:35:53] <Kiss> so not really nothing
2096[2018-07-08 14:36:10] <Kiss> so he was a problem, no he's not a problem
2097[2018-07-08 14:36:15] <pingfloyd> he kept the neighboring loonies in check
2098[2018-07-08 14:36:15] <vel> minus one enemy it's a big deal anyway
2099[2018-07-08 14:36:35] <pingfloyd> Kiss: he wasn't a problem for us
2100[2018-07-08 14:36:41] <vel> he was
2101[2018-07-08 14:36:41] <Kiss> more bred them
2102[2018-07-08 14:36:43] <Kiss> ya he was
2103[2018-07-08 14:38:07] <pingfloyd> he was a problem for Iran, which is a problem for us
2104[2018-07-08 14:38:38] <pingfloyd> but that's what happens when you have someone of below average intelligence calling all of the shots.
2105[2018-07-08 14:38:48] <pingfloyd> i.e., GWB
2106[2018-07-08 14:39:09] <Kiss> remember desert storm
2107[2018-07-08 14:39:19] <pingfloyd> what about it?
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2114[2018-07-08 15:29:05] <+kunwon1> Kiss: next time i see you insulting or name calling, i'm going to ban you- argue without being an asshole or find someplace else to chat
2115[2018-07-08 15:30:18] <Kiss> so i can't say an idea is moronic ?
2116[2018-07-08 15:30:45] <Kiss> kunwon1
2117[2018-07-08 15:30:58] <+kunwon1> Kiss: that's up to your interpretation of what i just said, which i will not discuss further
2118[2018-07-08 15:31:07] <+kunwon1> i'd recommend you err on the side of civility
2119[2018-07-08 15:32:23] <Kiss> well i was attacked first with name calling of being called a child and generally deamonized so i thought saying something was stupid or moronic was ok but i guess it wasn't even though i was called names first - two wrongs don't make a right, i know -- ok though.  i'll just stick to 'silly' and hope that doesn't offend anyone
2120[2018-07-08 15:32:37] <Kiss> message received
2121[2018-07-08 15:34:22] <Kiss> thanks for calling me a name while saying not to name call too.  that gave it some humor  :-)
2122[2018-07-08 15:34:23] <+kunwon1> Kiss: okay, now you're lying, you called someone a dolt, and then that person called you a child
2123[2018-07-08 15:34:37] <+kunwon1> so now you're an asshole and a liar
2124[2018-07-08 15:34:40] <+kunwon1> fucking drop this topic
2125[2018-07-08 15:34:45] <+kunwon1> talk about politics or shut the fuck up
2126[2018-07-08 15:35:27] <Kiss> lol
2127[2018-07-08 15:35:33] <Kiss> good job
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2134[2018-07-08 15:39:37] <+kunwon1> https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/thai-cave-rescue-live-intl/index.html
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2136[2018-05-31 02:23:03] <cata-doxas> asteele, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleichschaltung
2137[2018-05-31 02:23:04] <+subtitle> [ Gleichschaltung - Wikipedia ]
2138[2018-05-31 02:23:09] <cata-doxas> its the start of fascism basically:)
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2140[2018-05-31 02:23:41] <asteele> the republicans though, i feel like are doing certain things i dont agree with (Such as abortion, expansion of the military and powers among the globe, though i feel like that can be better understood with more information) - the main thing i cant get over is the constant identity politics on the left side, and their inability to denounce bad things.  All racists and violence is denounced from the right
2141[2018-05-31 02:24:18] <cata-doxas> ones inclusive to their own fault the others exclusive to their own fault
2142[2018-05-31 02:24:26] <cata-doxas> I mean racism is a form of identity politics
2143[2018-05-31 02:24:36] <cata-doxas> white identity politics
2144[2018-05-31 02:24:45] • mrdata-: thinks asteele looks at things through a lens
2145[2018-05-31 02:24:49] <cata-doxas> at least then it has the most impackt
2146[2018-05-31 02:25:15] <asteele> mrdata- i came here looking for open discussion so i am very open minded to alternative information
2147[2018-05-31 02:25:37] <+mrdata-> if you think the right is denouncing racism, show me them denouncing it please
2148[2018-05-31 02:25:38] <cata-doxas> as fast as stupid parts of the left will call you a racist
2149[2018-05-31 02:25:45] <cata-doxas> youll get the traitor label from the right
2150[2018-05-31 02:25:53] <cata-doxas> so... make your pick:D
2151[2018-05-31 02:25:56] <asteele> mrdata i guess i would ask if instead you can find any mainstream right side truely supporting racism
2152[2018-05-31 02:26:26] <+mrdata-> asteele, i'm not making a claim at the moment; your burden
2153[2018-05-31 02:26:40] <asteele> i think you would be making the claim, that mainstream right has supported racism
2154[2018-05-31 02:26:47] <cata-doxas> it all depends a bit on what you label what
2155[2018-05-31 02:26:51] <asteele> when denouncing racism should be the rational american position
2156[2018-05-31 02:27:03] <+kunwon1> asteele: you're going to be banned for being a troll in about two seconds, stop trolling or be quiet
2157[2018-05-31 02:27:08] <cata-doxas> i used the word racist for someone who publically holds the oppinion that other people are inferior and is proud of it
2158[2018-05-31 02:27:16] <lupine> eh? the US is an explicitly racist place
2159[2018-05-31 02:27:19] <+mrdata-> asteele, in fact youre making a whole bunch of unsubstantiated claims; no link? dismissed
2160[2018-05-31 02:27:23] <asteele> hmm i mean im new here i guess i dont mind being banned, but i am being honest and trying to have discussion
2161[2018-05-31 02:27:56] <cata-doxas> for example, david duke... hes a racist
2162[2018-05-31 02:27:59] <+kunwon1> asteele: start supporting your statements if you want to have a discussion
2163[2018-05-31 02:28:16] <asteele> what have i said that is not rational
2164[2018-05-31 02:28:19] <asteele> you are being a bit unreasonable
2165[2018-05-31 02:28:20] <+kunwon1> you're making bizarre and outlandish claims and passing them off as obvious
2166[2018-05-31 02:28:27] <asteele> such as?
2167[2018-05-31 02:28:28] <+kunwon1> support them or fuck off
2168[2018-05-31 02:28:28] <spruit11> Its caricatural.
2169[2018-05-31 02:28:46] <+kunwon1> asteele: all of them. i don't mean support them to me, i'm not going to have a discussion with you beyond this final ultimatum
2170[2018-05-31 02:30:57] <asteele> the statements i have made: 'i feel like a central party needs to reemerge' (This is nothing that needs evidence, its subjective) - 'no intelligent person i know supports either side' (subjective again, no evidence needed) - 'i cant get over identity politics, their inability to denounce bad ideas' (Im open to citing some more information on why i think that) 'all racists and violence is denounced from the right' (I agree that
2171[2018-05-31 02:30:57] <asteele>  needs some citation, i asked for it to be refuted because 'everyone on the right' is impossible to capture and work with)
2172[2018-05-31 02:31:28] <asteele> im trying to be honest and have discussion, if you actually ban me for further talk it will be only very telling on your support for rational free speech
2173[2018-05-31 02:31:44] <+kunwon1> so you're making an impossible claim and asking others to refute it because it's too impossible to provide a citation
2174[2018-05-31 02:31:46] <+kunwon1> is what i'm reading
2175[2018-05-31 02:31:48] <cata-doxas> the problem is a first past the post voting system makes 3 party systems all ut impossible
2176[2018-05-31 02:32:03] <lupine> well, that's not hte biggest problem the US has
2177[2018-05-31 02:32:08] <lupine> its main problem is americans themselves
2178[2018-05-31 02:32:12] <lupine> exhibit A
2179[2018-05-31 02:32:19] <cata-doxas> hehehe
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2181[2018-05-31 02:32:22] <asteele> i feel like showing a single example of mainstream right support racism, is way easier than proving 'no right people are racist' is an impossible thing to prove in the false
2182[2018-05-31 02:32:37] <cata-doxas> asteele, its gone out of fashion
2183[2018-05-31 02:32:39] <+kunwon1> no, you're obviously a troll and i'm going to ban you now, have a good evening
2184[2018-05-31 02:32:41] ChanServ sets mode +o kunwon1
2185[2018-05-31 02:32:43] <cata-doxas> most racists think the price is too steep
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2193[2018-05-31 03:27:14] <Byteflux> the irony of trump supporters cheering on for donald as he publicly wages a trade war with china but privately is in cahoots lol
2194[2018-05-31 03:27:34] <+cloe> i had an argument with a really good friend of mine not too long ago.  i said to him "i'll never understand how we went directly from obama to trump".
2195[2018-05-31 03:27:42] <+cloe> he replied.. cuz the black vote turned out for obama.
2196[2018-05-31 03:28:01] <+cloe> they didn't turn out for 2016.
2197[2018-05-31 03:28:06] <+cloe> at first i said no way.
2198[2018-05-31 03:28:15] <+cloe> but the more i think about it.. the more i think he's right.
2199[2018-05-31 03:28:20] <+cloe> further..
2200[2018-05-31 03:28:29] <+cloe> i think the black vote will be back for 2020.
2201[2018-05-31 03:28:34] <+mrdata-> https://twitter.com/SanofiUS/status/1001824999496404992
2202[2018-05-31 03:28:35] <+subtitle> [ Sanofi US: “People of all races, religions and nationalities work at Sanofi every day to improve the lives of people around the world. While all pharmaceutical treatments have side effects, racism is not a known side effect of any Sanofi medication.” ]
2203[2018-05-31 03:28:57] <Byteflux> cloe, Dems need to be super careful who they field, though
2204[2018-05-31 03:29:03] <sscout> that was nice
2205[2018-05-31 03:29:07] <sscout> the tweet
2206[2018-05-31 03:30:14] <sscout> Byteflux: I still can't believe how dems allowed their elections to become a popularity contest starting with JFK
2207[2018-05-31 03:30:27] <Byteflux> Center Dems and left Dems need to work through their differences and unify or this will be another shit show.
2208[2018-05-31 03:30:39] <Cowclops> Yeah, ambien doesn't make you a shithead
2209[2018-05-31 03:30:52] <Cowclops> Even booze just makes you say things you were already thinking
2210[2018-05-31 03:31:15] <sscout> I liked the part where they found a deleted tweet from 2013 where she did the same thing
2211[2018-05-31 03:31:21] <Byteflux> That means no more bernie bashing, no more hillary bashing, no more infighting, no more internal collusion, Dems need to embody the things they claim to value.
2212[2018-05-31 03:32:31] <+justan0theruser> https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/05/29/615120123/study-puts-puerto-rico-death-toll-at-5-000-from-hurricane-maria-in-2017
2213[2018-05-31 03:32:32] <+subtitle> [ Hurricane Maria: 4,645 Died In Puerto Rico From Storm In 2017, Study Says : Shots - Health News : NPR ]
2214[2018-05-31 03:36:11] <sscout> justan0theruser: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/19/donald-trump-puerto-rico-hurricane-response-10-out-of-10
2215[2018-05-31 03:36:12] <+subtitle> [ Donald Trump awards himself 10 out of 10 for Puerto Rico hurricane response | World news | The Guardian ]
2216[2018-05-31 03:36:58] <Cowclops> because of course he does.
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2218[2018-05-31 03:37:34] <Cowclops> just like he got a perfect score on a mental health test that basically just tests to see if you're completely out of your mind or not AND even fully functinoal people aren't supposed to be able to get a "perfect score"
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2220[2018-05-31 03:38:57] <sscout> Cowclops: but he's THE stable genius!
2221[2018-05-31 03:40:23] <Cowclops> I bet he always scores an 18 at his golf course too
2222[2018-05-31 03:40:27] <Cowclops> no. 17
2223[2018-05-31 03:45:54] <Byteflux> California senate passed Net Neutrality bill (all yes votes were Democrats, opposed entirely by Republicans). It goes to Assembly now (overwhelmingly Democrat).
2224[2018-05-31 03:46:16] <Byteflux> Once it clears Assembly, hopefully without changes, it'll be passed into law when Gov Brown signs it :D
2225[2018-05-31 03:48:01] <BlueLobster> dammit
2226[2018-05-31 03:48:06] <BlueLobster> the expanse and brockmire aren't up yet
2227[2018-05-31 03:48:10] <BlueLobster> fucking slow ass pirates
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2234[2018-05-31 04:00:17] <+kunwon1> fucking defer
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2237[2018-05-31 04:00:23] <+kunwon1> i'm starting to like go a lot
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2239[2018-05-31 04:00:50] <stevendale> Hi, https://i.imgur.com/R65OYgw.jpg
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2246[2018-05-31 04:02:06] <+swoolley> oh hai
2247[2018-05-31 04:02:10] <+kunwon1> good evening
2248[2018-05-31 04:02:14] <+kunwon1> i'm learning go
2249[2018-05-31 04:02:25] <+kunwon1> and having a wonderful vacation
2250[2018-05-31 04:02:33] <+swoolley> nice
2251[2018-05-31 04:02:39] <+swoolley> don't waste too much time on irc
2252[2018-05-31 04:02:44] <+swoolley> it's a vacation
2253[2018-05-31 04:02:49] <+swoolley> IRC is for work hours
2254[2018-05-31 04:02:56] <+kunwon1> really, my only priority is relaxation
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2256[2018-05-31 04:03:01] <thatfemaledragon> Hi kunwon1
2257[2018-05-31 04:03:04] <+kunwon1> oh hai
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2263[2018-05-31 04:03:36] <+swoolley> stevendale is the account
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2265[2018-05-31 04:03:53] <@kunwon1> it really isn't, he changed account names without signing out
2266[2018-05-31 04:03:54] <+swoolley> lol
2267[2018-05-31 04:03:59] <@kunwon1> --> | thatfemaledragon [thatfemaledragon] (stevendale) (~stevendal@unaffiliated/stevendale) has joined ##politics
2268[2018-05-31 04:04:06] <@kunwon1> stevendale is his realname and cloak
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2271[2018-05-30 17:03:32] <libbies> baked goods porn
2272[2018-05-30 17:03:40] <cata-doxas> im sure its a thing
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2274[2018-05-30 17:03:43] <cata-doxas> :D
2275[2018-05-30 17:03:53] <+macrobat> jelly roll
2276[2018-05-30 17:03:56] <libbies> hot
2277[2018-05-30 17:04:05] libbies is now known as thicc
2278[2018-05-30 17:04:06] <thicc> :3
2279[2018-05-30 17:04:10] <cata-doxas> huehue
2280[2018-05-30 17:04:24] <freetoad> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1001848460881035265
2281[2018-05-30 17:04:26] <+subtitle> [ Donald J. Trump: “Bob Iger of ABC called Valerie Jarrett to let her know that “ABC does not tolerate comments like those” made by Roseanne Barr. Gee, he never called President Donald J. Trump to apologize for the HORRIBLE statements made and said about me on ABC. Maybe I just didn’t get the call?” ]
2282[2018-05-30 17:04:36] <freetoad> nice
2283[2018-05-30 17:04:39] <thicc> fuck trump
2284[2018-05-30 17:04:52] <+xeno> justan0theruser: if I were to design something to replace it, I think maybe something like an adhoc forum thing, where you create a forum, there's dialogue within it, and then when that is done, you can close the forum and tuck it away...
2285[2018-05-30 17:05:02] <cata-doxas> did you see the new bitchfight between pewdiepie and that twitch woman
2286[2018-05-30 17:05:05] <cata-doxas> hehe
2287[2018-05-30 17:05:12] <freetoad> pewdiewho?
2288[2018-05-30 17:05:15] <+xeno> justan0theruser: together with a way to keep state rather than just pile new messages on top of old ones
2289[2018-05-30 17:05:20] <cata-doxas> some over-popular streamer
2290[2018-05-30 17:05:28] <+xeno> justan0theruser: with gitlab, you mean communication through git?
2291[2018-05-30 17:05:33] <thicc> xeno: self-destructing emails would be nice
2292[2018-05-30 17:05:39] <+xeno> thicc: yeah
2293[2018-05-30 17:05:42] <cata-doxas> thicc, cant really be done
2294[2018-05-30 17:05:45] <cata-doxas> I mean how...
2295[2018-05-30 17:05:52] <cata-doxas> unless you never locally store it
2296[2018-05-30 17:05:55] <thicc> google was testing something a while back
2297[2018-05-30 17:05:58] <+xeno> cata-doxas: can be done, but not for security
2298[2018-05-30 17:06:02] <thicc> https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/13/google-is-testing-self-destructing-emails-in-new-gmail/
2299[2018-05-30 17:06:02] <+subtitle> [ Google is testing self-destructing emails in new Gmail – TechCrunch ]
2300[2018-05-30 17:06:08] <cata-doxas> yeah if you mean it in a snapchat kind of way
2301[2018-05-30 17:06:11] thicc is now known as libbies
2302[2018-05-30 17:06:15] <cata-doxas> you cant save the image of my tits
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2304[2018-05-30 17:06:27] <cata-doxas> well then youre bound to have it work only vs incompetent people
2305[2018-05-30 17:06:27] <cata-doxas> :D
2306[2018-05-30 17:06:32] <+xeno> but right now there
2307[2018-05-30 17:06:33] <libbies> cata-doxas: tits or gtfo
2308[2018-05-30 17:06:36] <cata-doxas> yay
2309[2018-05-30 17:06:56] <cata-doxas> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM0HTU9dRvk
2310[2018-05-30 17:07:21] <guideX> this is the biggest problem with the workplace; you can't look at boobs
2311[2018-05-30 17:07:38] <+xeno> but right now there's no separation of different types of messages, so "there?" and "Here's some important documents, can you keep them for 10 years" are the same
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2315[2018-05-30 17:08:46] <freetoad> https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/05/29/paris-spider-man-rescue-mamoudou-gassama-bell-nr-lwe.cnn imagine how laid this guy is getting right now
2316[2018-05-30 17:08:46] <+subtitle> [ 'Spider-Man' rescue hero lands job as fireman - CNN Video ]
2317[2018-05-30 17:09:01] <nuit> I come with the black hair of a raven. I come as God Socialist!
2318[2018-05-30 17:09:01] <nuit> --Jim Jones
2319[2018-05-30 17:09:04] <nuit> my favorite quote
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2324[2018-05-30 17:11:11] <cata-doxas> freetoad, well that payd off well
2325[2018-05-30 17:11:26] <cata-doxas> from refuge to full citizen status and a job in 3minutes
2326[2018-05-30 17:11:33] <freetoad> ikr
2327--
2328[2018-05-30 18:12:55] <BlueLobster> 5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~
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2330[2018-05-30 18:12:59] <+kunwon1> pivot to video destroys a lot of companies
2331[2018-05-30 18:13:01] <BlueLobster> 5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~5~
2332[2018-05-30 18:13:06] <cata-doxas> i mean pornhub had the sense to start every video loud recognizable non porn sound
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2334[2018-05-30 18:13:08] <S_Gautam> why is it so fucking hard to get myself a Windows boot disk on Linux
2335[2018-05-30 18:13:10] kunwon1 kicked BlueLobster from the channel (broken lobster)
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2337[2018-05-30 18:13:26] <+kunwon1> S_Gautam: you already got a lot of tips on that, and you ignored them, so drop it and talk about politics
2338[2018-05-30 18:13:33] <S_Gautam> wait
2339[2018-05-30 18:13:34] <+kunwon1> or go to another channel for your bitching
2340[2018-05-30 18:13:35] <cata-doxas> kunwon1, do you do that automatically or do you just draw faster than your own shadow
2341[2018-05-30 18:13:38] <cata-doxas> its imporessive:D
2342[2018-05-30 18:13:39] <S_Gautam> let me read the logs
2343[2018-05-30 18:13:45] <+kunwon1> S_Gautam: don't bring it up again
2344[2018-05-30 18:14:28] <+kunwon1> cata-doxas: wat
2345[2018-05-30 18:14:36] <+macrobat> the porn signal is non-recognizable?
2346[2018-05-30 18:14:37] <cata-doxas> you kicked me a bunch for flooding by accident
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2348[2018-05-30 18:14:43] <cata-doxas> and you always do that within a felt 0.75s
2349[2018-05-30 18:14:49] <+macrobat> hush
2350[2018-05-30 18:14:53] <+kunwon1> cata-doxas: nothing automated, i type extremely fast
2351[2018-05-30 18:15:00] <+kunwon1> now let's not talk about bans in this channel
2352[2018-05-30 18:15:01] <+c|oe> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-cohen/cohen-attorney-hurls-leak-accusation-at-stormy-daniels-lawyer-in-u-s-court-idUSKCN1IV1BB
2353[2018-05-30 18:15:02] <+kunwon1> thanks
2354[2018-05-30 18:15:04] <+subtitle> [ Cohen attorney hurls leak accusation at Stormy Daniels' lawyer in U.S. court | Reuters ]
2355[2018-05-30 18:15:17] <+c|oe> "She said that more than a million items from three seized phones had also been designated as not privileged by Cohen and Trump, and would be turned over to prosecutors on Wednesday."
2356[2018-05-30 18:15:19] <cata-doxas> macrobat, its not unrecognizable but I liked the idea behind it
2357[2018-05-30 18:15:31] <cata-doxas> its still better than to have full on porn run in a presentation
2358[2018-05-30 18:15:45] <cata-doxas> I mean at this point everyone knows the sound, you are right
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2360[2018-05-30 18:16:07] <lupine> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/30/russian-journalist-arkady-babchenko-who-was-reported-killed-is-still-alive
2361[2018-05-30 18:16:07] <+subtitle> [ Ukraine reveals it staged 'murder' of Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko | World news | The Guardian ]
2362[2018-05-30 18:16:15] <+c|oe> that's a lot of documents from 3 phones.
2363[2018-05-30 18:16:32] <kitties> c|oe: we were discussing earlier and we assume they are treating each individual email as a document
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2365[2018-05-30 18:17:01] <lupine> Twats
2366[2018-05-30 18:17:08] <+c|oe> could be.
2367[2018-05-30 18:17:44] <kitties> although i have a hard time imagining someone sending or receiving a million emails
2368[2018-05-30 18:18:15] <+c|oe> and attachments probably count too.
2369[2018-05-30 18:18:34] <+kunwon1> i have about 50,000 unread in my inbox, i emptied it last month
2370[2018-05-30 18:19:00] <+kunwon1> mostly cries for help from various daemon processes
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2387[2018-05-30 20:01:05] <tethroar> I had a kid
2388[2018-05-30 20:01:16] <S_Gautam> what a turn of events
2389[2018-05-30 20:01:19] <lucky> Cor blimey.  Those are expensiv.
2390[2018-05-30 20:01:20] <tethroar> well, the past tense doesn't apply, I have a kid
2391[2018-05-30 20:01:42] <S_Gautam> did you give birth to it or did you make someone else do it
2392[2018-05-30 20:01:48] <tethroar> someone else did it
2393[2018-05-30 20:01:49] <S_Gautam> asking the real questions here
2394[2018-05-30 20:01:51] <S_Gautam> ah
2395[2018-05-30 20:01:54] <S_Gautam> outsourcing
2396[2018-05-30 20:02:02] <tethroar> yeah, neoliberalism at work
2397[2018-05-30 20:02:12] <tethroar> I just manage the contracts
2398[2018-05-30 20:02:19] <lucky> externalize baby
2399[2018-05-30 20:02:32] <tethroar> yes, that's the basic idea of childbirth
2400[2018-05-30 20:02:33] <cata-doxas> you mean like angelina jolie?
2401[2018-05-30 20:02:34] <cata-doxas> lol
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2405[2018-05-30 20:02:50] <cata-doxas> she not just outsourced it
2406[2018-05-30 20:02:52] <cata-doxas> she globalized it
2407[2018-05-30 20:03:00] <tethroar> hah
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2409[2018-05-30 20:03:18] <tethroar> so what's new with people here?
2410[2018-05-30 20:03:28] <tethroar> it was a different world when i went away, no brexit or trump
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2412[2018-05-30 20:04:36] <cata-doxas> yeah those were the days man
2413[2018-05-30 20:04:37] <binaryhermit> let's get retarded in here
2414[2018-05-30 20:04:43] <+kunwon1> i've been to the fishmonger and will likely produce sushi this evening
2415[2018-05-30 20:04:49] <binaryhermit> MAGA TRUMP 2020
2416[2018-05-30 20:04:49] <cata-doxas> I miss all the idiots arguing for trump and brexit
2417[2018-05-30 20:04:58] <cata-doxas> had a blast with them everytime
2418[2018-05-30 20:05:01] <binaryhermit> there, I got retarded in here
2419[2018-05-30 20:05:13] <tethroar> kunwon1: something about the phrasing of that made me think you were going to lay it like eggs
2420[2018-05-30 20:05:16] <tethroar> also hi
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2422[2018-05-30 20:05:23] <tethroar> cata-doxas: i was so fucking bored of them when i left
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2424[2018-05-30 20:05:35] <+kunwon1> tethroar: if that were an option it'd be great. sounds easier
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2429[2018-05-30 20:06:01] <tethroar> it was just heart rending to know that however much you craft a reasonable argument with nuance and context, the world keeps spewing out total imbeciles
2430[2018-05-30 20:06:01] <S_Gautam> trump is the greatest human being on earth and brexit was the greatest even that happened on earth
2431[2018-05-30 20:06:13] <cata-doxas> :)
2432[2018-05-30 20:06:34] <cata-doxas> his greatness matches that of the size of his hands
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2435[2018-05-30 20:06:47] <S_Gautam> yup
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2439[2018-05-30 20:06:56] <S_Gautam> he's so humble
2440[2018-05-30 20:07:08] <S_Gautam> that he tells you that you can't even imagine being that humble
2441[2018-05-30 20:07:12] <tethroar> i see people still try to spam while quieted
2442[2018-05-30 20:07:43] <tethroar> S_Gautam: plus, what loving father wouldn't want to go on a date with his daughter?
2443--
2444[2018-07-09 16:44:15] <topguest> Rashad, idk. just the most common version
2445[2018-07-09 16:44:15] <lupine> also "“For perhaps ten years past I have had some grasp of the real nature of capitalist society. I have seen British imperialism at work in Burma, and I have seen something of the effects of poverty and unemployment in Britain…. One has got to be actively a Socialist, not merely sympathetic to Socialism, or one plays into the hands of our always active enemies.”"
2446[2018-07-09 16:44:21] <lupine> so please, quote us again of animal farm
2447[2018-07-09 16:44:37] <fedorafan> che guevara
2448[2018-07-09 16:44:45] <_kmh_> any bets on johnson unseating may?
2449[2018-07-09 16:44:49] <AimHere> Orwell was so left wing that he complained that Stalin didn't go far enough in terms of the worker's revolution
2450[2018-07-09 16:44:49] <fedorafan> lol
2451[2018-07-09 16:44:59] <AimHere> Well that, and being a mass murdering bastard
2452[2018-07-09 16:44:59] <SphericalCow> that was written before people knew socialism was bad
2453[2018-07-09 16:45:02] <fedorafan> lol
2454[2018-07-09 16:45:02] <lupine> orwell was so left wing he went to spain and shot fascists
2455[2018-07-09 16:45:07] <lupine> SphericalCow: quite the contrary
2456[2018-07-09 16:45:08] <SphericalCow> like how everyone thought smoking was great then it killed millions of people
2457[2018-07-09 16:45:25] <AimHere> SphericalCow, that was written late in his career, roughly around the time he wrote Animal Farm, IIRC
2458[2018-07-09 16:45:40] <lupine> he wrote much of it against a reaction of the communisms and capitalisms he saw implemented in his day to day life
2459[2018-07-09 16:45:45] <AimHere> At least the 'since 1936' quote
2460[2018-07-09 16:45:47] <lupine> and in favour of different things
2461[2018-07-09 16:45:51] <fedorafan> devil won
2462[2018-07-09 16:45:55] <fedorafan> you are stupid
2463[2018-07-09 16:45:59] <lupine> including particular forms of socialism, but excluding any form of capitalism
2464[2018-07-09 16:46:17] <tuxick> what devil? Trump?
2465[2018-07-09 16:46:22] <fedorafan> the real one
2466[2018-07-09 16:46:34] <tuxick> uhm
2467[2018-07-09 16:46:36] <_kmh_> fedorafan,  bush?
2468[2018-07-09 16:46:40] <fedorafan> no man
2469[2018-07-09 16:46:42] <fedorafan> the real
2470[2018-07-09 16:46:44] <tuxick> sr or jr?
2471[2018-07-09 16:46:51] <Rashad> topguest: There is a specter haunting europe.
2472[2018-07-09 16:46:59] <_kmh_> tuxick,  the sulphur smeller
2473[2018-07-09 16:47:35] <lupine> https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/how-a-microsoft-font-brought-down-pakistani-prime-minister-nawaz-sharif/article35828938/
2474[2018-07-09 16:47:35] <+subtitle> [ How a Microsoft font brought down Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif - The Globe and Mail ]
2475[2018-07-09 16:47:44] <topguest> Anyway. the communistic manifest just adresses the problem of explotation, but it does not offer any good solutions. the famous 10 points which it offers, are not a solutions at all. these famaous 10 points can only lead to a even worse exploitation
2476[2018-07-09 16:47:50] <fedorafan> laugh on him
2477[2018-07-09 16:47:58] <fedorafan> I think we get him being nervous
2478[2018-07-09 16:48:04] <fedorafan> he doesnt like that
2479[2018-07-09 16:48:09] <+macrobat> the pun that Pakistan is now sans-Sharif
2480[2018-07-09 16:48:14] <fedorafan> cmon
2481[2018-07-09 16:48:14] <fedorafan> try it
2482[2018-07-09 16:48:31] <Rashad> macrobat: Hehe!
2483[2018-07-09 16:49:27] <Rashad> fedorafan: Tell us more what you think.
2484[2018-07-09 16:49:27] <fedorafan> say it hes just a big bitch
2485[2018-07-09 16:49:50] <Rashad> Why is he a big bitch?
2486[2018-07-09 16:50:01] <fedorafan> why not you dont believe in what
2487[2018-07-09 16:50:14] <Rashad> I don't know. Do I?
2488[2018-07-09 16:50:58] <Rashad> The fedorafan bot fails the Turing test.
2489[2018-07-09 16:52:04] <fedorafan> hahaha
2490[2018-07-09 16:52:09] <fedorafan> well
2491[2018-07-09 16:52:13] <fedorafan> you are motherfuckers
2492[2018-07-09 16:52:19] ChanServ sets mode +o kunwon1
2493[2018-07-09 16:52:22] <fedorafan> :)
2494[2018-07-09 16:52:24] kunwon1 sets mode +b $a:fedorafan
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2497[2018-07-09 16:55:47] <_kmh_> what's with this guy?
2498[2018-07-09 16:55:59] <kitties> i can't tell if that scroll back is unintelligible or if it's just because i didn't have my coffee this morning yet
2499[2018-07-09 16:56:08] <+nalkri> It's gibberish
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2501[2018-07-09 21:41:48] <AimHere> Which does make the vomiting episode of GHW Bush all the more surprising
2502[2018-07-09 21:43:01] <guideX> I bet trump runs the white house kitchen like an episode of chopped
2503[2018-07-09 21:50:40] <+Taev> No McNuggets in the WhiteHouse??! SAD!!
2504[2018-07-09 21:50:50] <+Taev> Illegal Mexicans stole all my McNuggets!
2505[2018-07-09 21:51:19] <+Taev> btw true story Clinton once tore through the WH kitchen yelling "WHO THE FUCK ATE MY PIE?!"
2506[2018-07-09 21:51:50] <AimHere> Does history record the White House Pie Stealer?
2507[2018-07-09 21:51:57] <+Taev> no
2508[2018-07-09 21:52:03] <+Taev> but it does record it was Pecan
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2511[2018-07-09 21:55:19] <AimHere> That seems a little ironic
2512[2018-07-09 21:56:08] <AimHere> Bill Clinton, when he was governor, made a big thing of executing some convicted criminal who was so mentally incapable that for his last meal, he saved the slice of pecan pie 'for later'
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2523[2018-07-09 22:45:45] <guideX> I wonder if they're ready with a smear article for each possible conservative judge
2524[2018-07-09 22:47:15] <+macrobat> schmear harder!
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2526[2018-07-09 22:49:38] <+BenderRodriguez> Taev: do you now regret brexit?
2527[2018-07-09 22:49:49] <+Taev> im not english
2528[2018-07-09 22:49:55] <+Taev> but i think its a bad idea
2529[2018-07-09 22:50:20] <+Taev> thats like asking me if i now regret the Winnipeg Riding Re-districting plan in Parliament
2530[2018-07-09 22:50:23] <+Taev> as an american
2531[2018-07-09 22:51:43] <rdococ> brexit will suck - how much it will suck depends on how well the politicians can get their shit together - and by the looks of it, it will suck hard
2532[2018-07-09 22:53:44] <AimHere> Maybe there won't be a Brexit
2533[2018-07-09 22:54:18] <AimHere> I suspect the suckage might be only short term if somehow people manage to call it off
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2535[2018-07-09 22:55:09] <rdococ> I hope so
2536[2018-07-09 22:57:00] <rdococ> it makes me wonder what will happen in the future
2537[2018-07-09 22:57:22] <rdococ> according to multiple sources, socialism is more popular amongst the british public than capitalism
2538[2018-07-09 22:58:00] <rdococ> not sure how reliable they are though
2539[2018-07-09 22:58:22] <rdococ> https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/02/23/british-people-view-socialism-more-favourably-capi/
2540[2018-07-09 22:58:24] <+subtitle> [ YouGov | British people keener on socialism than capitalism ]
2541[2018-07-09 22:58:41] <SphericalCow> lol at the picture
2542[2018-07-09 22:58:58] <SphericalCow> god help us if these people get elected
2543[2018-07-09 22:59:59] <AimHere> Which people?
2544[2018-07-09 23:00:44] <AimHere> I mean, the dude in that yougov picture probably isn't up for election, and if he is, likely not for a major political party
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2548[2018-07-09 23:20:13] <rdococ> what are your views on mutualism?
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2554[2018-07-09 23:24:22] <rdococ> I'm considering syndicalism or mutualism
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2558[2018-06-01 19:53:00] <SuperSeriousCat> ?
2559[2018-06-01 19:53:03] <fChanX> O-bomber.
2560[2018-06-01 19:53:04] <fChanX> lol
2561[2018-06-01 19:53:30] <jhublar> All I learned about geopolitical achievements I learned eating fortune cookies.
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2563[2018-06-01 19:53:48] <jhublar> economies fell, economies rose -- never a miscommunication
2564[2018-06-01 19:54:29] <jhublar> You see -- economies are complex (ancient_aliens.jpg)
2565[2018-06-01 19:54:30] <fChanX> Economies are notoriously complex to predict.
2566[2018-06-01 19:54:43] <jhublar> XD
2567[2018-06-01 19:54:43] <jrawson> fChanX: Hard to govern when you're being fillibustered for 6 years.
2568[2018-06-01 19:54:45] <jhublar> you kill me.
2569[2018-06-01 19:55:19] <fChanX> Americans have such coloquial seeming words for things in politics. :/
2570[2018-06-01 19:55:33] <jhublar> Yeah
2571[2018-06-01 19:55:38] <jhublar> Mine for you is, "Asshat".
2572[2018-06-01 19:56:00] <fChanX> "Fillibuster 25, SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAAAAAAAY (with extra monster trucks)"
2573[2018-06-01 19:56:17] <+kunwon1> jhublar: don't be a cunt
2574[2018-06-01 19:56:31] <jhublar> s/asshat/clownboot
2575[2018-06-01 19:57:11] <fChanX> There is that afadavit thing or whatever too. :/
2576[2018-06-01 19:57:20] <fChanX> It is so odd sounding to me.
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2578[2018-06-01 19:58:08] <Tywin> I think it's called "latin"
2579[2018-06-01 19:58:39] <fChanX> Okay Omega Alpha Phi house. :|
2580[2018-06-01 19:58:45] <fChanX> I just find it odd. :/
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2582[2018-06-01 20:05:58] <kitties> https://apnews.com/6a92b7e254b74111b722271035a0206c/APNewsBreak:-Pentagon-to-take-over-security-clearance-checks
2583[2018-06-01 20:05:59] <+subtitle> [ APNewsBreak: Pentagon to take over security clearance checks ]
2584[2018-06-01 20:06:16] <cata-doxas> lol
2585[2018-06-01 20:06:20] <kitties> http://www.newsweek.com/climate-change-real-postcard-was-one-threats-pruit-954396
2586[2018-06-01 20:06:20] <+subtitle> [ 'Climate Change Is Real!!!' Postcard Was One of 'Threats' to Pruitt ]
2587[2018-06-01 20:06:31] <kitties> pruitt should be fucking fired
2588[2018-06-01 20:08:15] <cata-doxas> or burned at the stake
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2590[2018-06-01 20:08:34] <methods_> or turned into coal
2591[2018-06-01 20:08:41] <cata-doxas> then again that would cause more global warming
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2593[2018-06-01 20:08:48] <cata-doxas> but in this case we can make an exeption
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2595[2018-06-01 20:09:57] <wils0nfisk> no exceptions
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2597[2018-06-01 20:10:44] <Tywin> https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/06/01/italys-new-populist-government-reacts-furiously-juncker-suggesting
2598[2018-06-01 20:10:44] <Tywin> lol
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2600[2018-06-01 20:10:47] <+subtitle> [ Jean-Claude Juncker apologises for remarks suggesting that southern Italy is corrupt and lazy ]
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2602[2018-06-01 20:11:30] <Tywin> Them latins with their siestas, right? :D
2603[2018-06-01 20:12:04] <methods_> riposo
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2605[2018-06-01 20:12:50] <methods_> siesta is spain
2606[2018-06-01 20:13:53] <cata-doxas> sounds like a counter in swordfighting
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2611[2018-06-01 20:14:28] <cata-doxas> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riposte
2612[2018-06-01 20:14:29] <+subtitle> [ Riposte - Wikipedia ]
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2615[2018-06-29 02:26:38] <Byteflux> hopefully he gets deported
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2617[2018-06-29 02:26:55] <Byteflux> UK please take him back
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2619[2018-06-29 02:28:00] <+justanotheruser> he has a visa for being Extraordinary
2620[2018-06-29 02:28:08] <+justanotheruser> O-1
2621[2018-06-29 02:28:14] <+justanotheruser> Extraordinary abilities
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2628[2018-06-29 02:42:00] <Cowclops> ::unintelligible screeching::
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2633[2018-06-29 02:56:01] <czarbomba> oh lovely chrome shit itself again
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2642[2018-06-29 03:16:38] <emmeka> https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/06/28/what-the-hell-does-that-mean-trump-criticizes-canada-then-says-he-doesnt-understand-what-he-just-read.html
2643[2018-06-29 03:16:39] <+subtitle> [ ‘What the hell does that mean?’ Trump criticizes Canada, then says he doesn’t understand what he just read | The Star ]
2644[2018-06-29 03:16:56] <emmeka> “John and Kevin gave me something, they told me this,” he said, likely referring to North Dakota Sen. John Hoeven and Rep. Kevin Cramer. Beginning to read, he said, “Canadian wheat markets consistently discriminate against the United States’s wheat by grading it as feed.” “Do you know what that means? They know what it means,” he said, pointing behind him. “I don’t know what the hell it means. I just know it’s a b
2645[2018-06-29 03:16:57] <emmeka> ad deal. What the hell does that mean?”
2646[2018-06-29 03:17:32] <cata-doxas> since 2003 the price of housing in hong kong has increased by almost 500%
2647[2018-06-29 03:17:33] <cata-doxas> lol
2648[2018-06-29 03:17:37] <cata-doxas> fuck me
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2656[2018-06-29 03:31:27] <PowerPCMAC> Is the hollywood pedo ring real?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfwJA0f0UTg
2657[2018-06-29 03:31:27] <+subtitle> [ Miley Cyrus - BB Talk ]
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2667[2018-06-29 03:34:36] <@kunwon1> :/
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2673[2018-06-29 21:44:29] <+kuber> duh
2674[2018-06-29 21:45:47] <Byteflux> shocking, how long before Trump threatens them to keep the jobs / stop blaming tariffs lol
2675[2018-06-29 21:46:30] <_methods> trump is like a walking talking dunning kruger exhibition
2676[2018-06-29 21:47:17] <_kmh_> lol
2677[2018-06-29 21:47:41] <_kmh_> he is advice resistant for sure
2678[2018-06-29 21:48:04] <_kmh_> today i heard a rumpur that he might consider leaving the wto
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2684[2018-06-29 21:58:45] <tsarbomba> trump doesn't have the power to leave the WTO
2685[2018-06-29 21:58:52] <tsarbomba> requires an act of congress
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2692[2018-06-29 22:26:34] <lupine> https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jun/29/virgin-airlines-no-longer-help-deport-immigrants-lgbt-windrush
2693[2018-06-29 22:26:35] <+subtitle> [ Virgin airlines says it will no longer help to deport immigrants | UK news | The Guardian ]
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2698[2018-06-29 22:38:02] <+Sabotender> thats a goddamn shame, those Journalists that were gunned down
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2704[2018-06-29 22:54:59] <sscout> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrm7M5fZsoY
2705[2018-06-29 22:54:59] <+subtitle> [ LEAKED: Trump Says NATO As Bad As NAFTA ]
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2708[2018-06-29 22:57:04] <lupine> > “Where these offences took place within the context of an international armed conflict, they amount to war crimes, and if the British government fails to prosecute then The Hague is able to do so instead.”
2709[2018-06-29 22:57:06] <lupine> this could get exciting
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2717[2018-06-29 23:25:07] <lupine> weird. I'm filling in a survey and htey've completely forgotten that the SNP exists
2718[2018-06-29 23:25:11] <lupine> they mention plaid cymru though
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2724[2018-06-29 23:34:14] <lupine> ah, there we go, they get a mention at the end
2725[2018-06-29 23:34:48] <lupine> meanwhile, https://voe.social/system/media_attachments/files/000/144/637/original/9c185de2b387595c.png
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2727[2018-06-29 23:37:10] <+justanotheruser> nice
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2729[2018-06-17 07:00:21] <_kmh_> no smile for kyle
2730[2018-06-17 07:00:34] <cata-doxas> vegeta would be sad, killbot is just barely not over 9000
2731[2018-06-17 07:00:39] <cata-doxas> _kmh_, why?
2732[2018-06-17 07:01:07] <_kmh_> justanotheruser,  for those who have them
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2734[2018-06-17 07:02:34] <+justanotheruser> also, that's quite a cherrypicked daterange
2735[2018-06-17 07:02:50] <cata-doxas> ah, I cant watch the video currently
2736[2018-06-17 07:02:56] <+justanotheruser> real hourly earnings have been increasing nearly monotonically https://www.ccn.com/satoshi-nakamoto-admirers-in-ukraine-want-to-replace-lenin-statue-with-monument-to-bitcoin-creator/
2737[2018-06-17 07:02:56] <+subtitle> [ Ukraine Bitcoin Fans Aim to Put Satoshi Statue Where Lenin's Once Stood ]
2738[2018-06-17 07:02:57] <cata-doxas> I just remember him from the election times
2739[2018-06-17 07:02:59] <+justanotheruser> realy hourly income*
2740[2018-06-17 07:03:09] <+justanotheruser> oops, wrong link, here's the right one: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/COMPRNFB
2741[2018-06-17 07:03:10] <+subtitle> [ Nonfarm Business Sector: Real Compensation Per Hour | FRED | St. Louis Fed ]
2742[2018-06-17 07:03:18] <sscout> cata-doxas: https://thinkprogress.org/wages-down-for-workers-since-tax-cut-dae56113144b/
2743[2018-06-17 07:03:19] <+subtitle> [ Workers’ wages fall after passage of GOP tax cuts – ThinkProgress ]
2744[2018-06-17 07:03:37] <cata-doxas> sscout, oh my
2745[2018-06-17 07:04:00] <cata-doxas> what a extraordinary surprise
2746[2018-06-17 07:04:17] <_kmh_> lol
2747[2018-06-17 07:04:39] <+justanotheruser> -0.1% over a year, when you look at the history, is just statistical noise
2748[2018-06-17 07:06:27] <cata-doxas> I dont get the guy... He would have a relatively easy path to both personal gain and a decent presidency
2749[2018-06-17 07:06:35] <cata-doxas> just dont lower taxes and invest tons in infrastructure
2750[2018-06-17 07:06:36] <cata-doxas> and housing
2751[2018-06-17 07:06:47] <cata-doxas> people usually like that, and his mafia friends should too
2752[2018-06-17 07:07:21] <sscout> justanotheruser: it was supposed to go up though :P
2753[2018-06-17 07:08:01] <cata-doxas> repairing all those shitty bridges, roads traintracks powerlines and whatnot would also create tons of jobs
2754[2018-06-17 07:08:28] <cata-doxas> exactly the kind of jobs he promised his base:D
2755[2018-06-17 07:09:01] <+jrg> I don’t get train tracks
2756[2018-06-17 07:09:12] <+jrg> aren’t most of those privately owned?
2757[2018-06-17 07:09:16] <cata-doxas> why?
2758[2018-06-17 07:09:17] <cata-doxas> in the US yes
2759[2018-06-17 07:09:19] <+Hoffman> cata-doxas: he cant do any of that
2760[2018-06-17 07:09:22] <+Hoffman> he isnt congress
2761[2018-06-17 07:09:30] <+jrg> ^
2762[2018-06-17 07:09:40] <+jrg> yeah. he can only talk about it
2763[2018-06-17 07:09:49] <+Hoffman> and congress is not going to vote to spend a lot on infrastructure because the GOP could never agree upon a bill, and they follow the hastert rule
2764[2018-06-17 07:10:04] <+kuber> INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK
2765[2018-06-17 07:10:05] <cata-doxas> well eventually it has to be done no?
2766[2018-06-17 07:10:10] <cata-doxas> haha
2767[2018-06-17 07:10:21] <+jrg> Hoffman: you mean they want to privatize road building
2768[2018-06-17 07:10:40] <+Hoffman> good point
2769[2018-06-17 07:10:50] <+jrg> and every interstate becomes a privately owned toll road
2770[2018-06-17 07:10:53] <cata-doxas> with the low population density of the US
2771[2018-06-17 07:10:56] <cata-doxas> seems like a horrible idea
2772[2018-06-17 07:11:04] <cata-doxas> everyone not living in a place they deem profitable would be fucked
2773[2018-06-17 07:11:16] <+justanotheruser> infrastructure week NOW
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2776[2018-06-17 07:11:21] <+jrg> cata-doxas: isn’t that how it is anyways?
2777[2018-06-17 07:11:21] <+justanotheruser> $INFRA to the moon
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2781[2018-06-17 07:11:44] <+jrg> why should roads be different?
2782[2018-06-17 07:11:51] <cata-doxas> jrg, not in .ch it has its annoyances too.. for example all the important rail connections subsidise the ones in the outback
2783[2018-06-17 07:12:02] <cata-doxas> so we pay way more than we should for certain comutes
2784[2018-06-17 07:12:18] <+Hoffman> jrg: no, at the moment, highways receive federal funding
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2786[2018-06-02 02:25:10] <+coffeeguy> hey peeps! anin't summer great :D i wasn't sure i was going to make it through winter brrr
2787[2018-06-02 02:25:13] <juzemack> HackerII: Quantum of Solace was a great movie
2788[2018-06-02 02:25:16] <cata-doxas> juzemack, but its also more gross than that
2789[2018-06-02 02:25:18] <Omega037> HackerII, is there a political angle here?
2790[2018-06-02 02:25:23] <HackerII> it sukt
2791[2018-06-02 02:25:37] <Omega037> ##physics is a large channel
2792[2018-06-02 02:25:41] <HackerII> you pwubwick schwoolers have a lot to learn !!!
2793[2018-06-02 02:25:53] <Omega037> you can go there are seriously discuss this stuff
2794[2018-06-02 02:25:56] <cata-doxas> the amount of armchair-soldier-fascists that showed up on these places arround when the wars started was so onbearable I left
2795[2018-06-02 02:25:59] <+coffeeguy> lol
2796[2018-06-02 02:26:07] <kitties> HackerII: are you taking your medication as prescribed?
2797[2018-06-02 02:26:35] <cata-doxas> what happened to HackerI btw?
2798[2018-06-02 02:26:39] <cata-doxas> I liked him
2799[2018-06-02 02:26:45] <HackerII> there is nothing to discuss.. physics is limited to what god said you can do.. and your now @ 95%.. go figure
2800[2018-06-02 02:26:57] <juzemack> cata-doxas: lol Doug Stanhope is one of my favs
2801[2018-06-02 02:27:05] <+coffeeguy> Doug!
2802[2018-06-02 02:27:10] <juzemack> HackerII: stop trolling religion
2803[2018-06-02 02:27:15] <cata-doxas> juzemack, and he to will make racist ass jokes in this
2804[2018-06-02 02:27:16] <Omega037> did you know that Black Holes arent actually black
2805[2018-06-02 02:27:20] <Omega037> in fact, they dont have any color
2806[2018-06-02 02:27:26] <cata-doxas> juzemack, all I want to say its not always as simple as the words someone said
2807[2018-06-02 02:27:27] <juzemack> cata-doxas: for sure, in the context of comedy
2808[2018-06-02 02:27:29] <cata-doxas> it depends on context
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2810[2018-06-02 02:27:38] <Omega037> but then i thought about it and, No holes have colors
2811[2018-06-02 02:27:42] <HackerII> religion is what christ died at the cross for.. go figure !!
2812[2018-06-02 02:27:49] <Omega037> so why even call it black?
2813[2018-06-02 02:27:51] <cata-doxas> juzemack, some people want this banned
2814[2018-06-02 02:28:01] <juzemack> cata-doxas: if Doug was caught on film being truly racist, it would hurt his career... maybe that's another topic. Wilfull disbelief that someone is a racist?
2815[2018-06-02 02:28:05] <+coffeeguy> Omega037: heard of the blackhole that's 20billion suns in size and eats a star every 24hours?
2816[2018-06-02 02:28:17] <Omega037> size as in mass or width?
2817[2018-06-02 02:28:22] <HackerII> christ died so that you could be free from it !
2818[2018-06-02 02:28:23] <kitties> eats a sun-sized mass
2819[2018-06-02 02:28:24] <+coffeeguy> i think mass
2820[2018-06-02 02:28:27] <juzemack> cata-doxas: well, I wouldn't draw the line there. I think that would be unreasonable to ban that
2821[2018-06-02 02:28:29] <+coffeeguy> no width
2822[2018-06-02 02:28:47] <Omega037> HackerII, personally i dont think Christ ever existed
2823[2018-06-02 02:28:54] <Omega037> which seems to blow peoples minds
2824[2018-06-02 02:28:55] <+coffeeguy> i said size hehe
2825[2018-06-02 02:29:04] <+coffeeguy> not weight
2826[2018-06-02 02:29:05] <HackerII> be free.. the price was paid.. be free !!
2827[2018-06-02 02:29:12] <kitties> even if christ did not exist, he would have been invented
2828[2018-06-02 02:29:16] <+coffeeguy> 20 billion suns geez
2829[2018-06-02 02:29:16] <Omega037> i think he is a fictional amaglamation of several messianic figures at that time in Judaism
2830[2018-06-02 02:29:21] <juzemack> Christ died just like every other dude in his day, someone just wanted a good story to loop people in for centuries, like people did before him/them
2831[2018-06-02 02:29:25] <cata-doxas> juzemack, there is this super young guy from pakistan
2832[2018-06-02 02:29:27] <cata-doxas> man hes funny
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2835[2018-06-02 02:29:35] <cata-doxas> but man are his jokes evil/uncorrect
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2839[2018-06-02 02:29:59] <Omega037> kitties, well i think you are right about that
2840[2018-06-02 02:30:04] <+coffeeguy> Dominick is pretty funny
2841[2018-06-02 02:30:20] <Omega037> you can follow the writings of the time as they formed these messianic views and cults
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2843[2018-06-16 00:02:48] <+swoolley> ?
2844[2018-06-16 00:02:54] <+swoolley> translate into english
2845[2018-06-16 00:04:13] <oerheks> holy smoke ... https://twitter.com/aidanrdick/status/1007755135072784386
2846[2018-06-16 00:04:14] <+subtitle> [ Aidan Dick: “In the space of a few minutes, the fire has grown and the smoke is getting worse. https://t.co/AfVyOczv0d” ]
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2848[2018-06-16 00:05:49] <+xeno> lupine: you visited Ireland?
2849[2018-06-16 00:06:31] <+xeno> oerheks: performance art at its best?
2850[2018-06-16 00:06:43] <oerheks> 2nd stage
2851[2018-06-16 00:06:58] <oerheks> c/2nd fire
2852[2018-06-16 00:07:39] <+xeno> that is almost like a Monte Cazazza project
2853[2018-06-16 00:08:23] <oerheks> what can those little firehoses do ..
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2858[2018-06-16 00:17:54] <@kunwon1> BenderRodriguez: jill stein
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2860[2018-06-16 00:18:40] <+kunwon1> !randquote
2861[2018-06-16 00:18:40] <lysenko> Quote 697 by unknown: [slimjimflim] the instant mick jagger's song hits the air waves, it's public domain
2862[2018-06-16 00:18:49] <+kunwon1> lol
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2864[2018-06-16 02:58:24] <piscina> it's how we make sense of the extremely complex world
2865[2018-06-16 02:58:27] <spruit11> What is a cloud!
2866[2018-06-16 02:58:38] <piscina> that doesn't mean the lines that we've drawn between ideas are accurate
2867[2018-06-16 02:58:42] <piscina> or that the ideas are even related
2868[2018-06-16 02:58:57] <_W_> piscina: we all have (or at least it seems reasonable to assume that we all have) perception of a reality. We also have some faculty to make sense of our perceptions, to notice patterns and coherences in said perceptions, be it in forming individual light sensing cells into a picture or in noticing that some behaviour gets some outcomes and others get others
2869[2018-06-16 02:59:21] <piscina> it's all relative
2870[2018-06-16 02:59:34] <spruit11> It is?
2871[2018-06-16 02:59:37] <piscina> i'll try and explain it like this
2872[2018-06-16 02:59:55] <_W_> we also have the ability to act - we make decisions about reality, decisions about how we behave, and can observe the result and whether it got us what we wanted or not
2873[2018-06-16 03:00:07] <spruit11> Still all neurons.
2874[2018-06-16 03:00:37] <piscina> can an atheist be an atheist in the western world?  their very understanding of the world has judeo-christian indoctrination intertwined so deeply in it.
2875[2018-06-16 03:00:52] <piscina> the way i perceive the world is a result of the indoctrination which is a result of the way the world around me has been formulated upto this point
2876[2018-06-16 03:00:56] <_W_> some manners of thinking about our perceptions and behaviours appear to be more likely to get us what we want than others, and we can experiment and find those. We can also pass information between each other, read what conclusions others have arrived at from their own experiments
2877[2018-06-16 03:01:31] <_W_> piscina: there's no lack of atheists in the western world
2878[2018-06-16 03:01:44] <piscina> i never said there was...
2879[2018-06-16 03:01:57] <spruit11> He skewed the definition of atheist.
2880[2018-06-16 03:01:59] <piscina> i think the problem we're having is you're not really interested in the idea i'm attempting to express
2881[2018-06-16 03:02:01] <_W_> it appeared that you did, so now it is on you to clarify how that was not what you meant
2882[2018-06-16 03:02:12] <piscina> you're more interested in foucauldian discourse
2883[2018-06-16 03:02:23] <piscina> in which you're attmepting to make me see things the way you think i should see them
2884[2018-06-16 03:02:38] <spruit11> That's impossible.
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2886[2018-06-16 03:03:21] <piscina> it's a matter of power it seems
2887[2018-06-16 03:03:48] <_W_> piscina: I do not care about you, personally. One thing one learns quickly online, and that is that direct dialogue with someone is the least likely way to change someone's mind. People are much more likely to learn and change their mind from seeing /others/ engaged in discussion, not from engaging in it themselves.
2888[2018-06-16 03:03:54] <spruit11> Fight the power!
2889[2018-06-16 03:03:59] <piscina> i'm not attempting to change your mind
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2891[2018-06-16 03:04:18] <xormor> https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-0.13&soc=1.64
2892[2018-06-16 03:04:23] <piscina> i'm just asking where your ideas came from and how you're determining that they're the most accurate
2893[2018-06-16 03:04:33] <spruit11> Who cares?
2894[2018-06-16 03:04:37] <_W_> piscina: so when I engage with your destructive and harmful ideas, it is not you I am improving, it's everyone else that reads your and my words
2895[2018-06-16 03:04:42] <spruit11> Or rather, why bother?
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2898[2018-06-16 03:05:10] <piscina> ideas that you do not hold are harmful and destructive
2899[2018-06-16 03:05:15] <piscina> roger dodger
2900[2018-06-16 03:06:00] <_W_> No, I am happy to disagree with lots of people. But some ideas are harmful and destructive.
2901[2018-06-16 03:06:00] <piscina> beg your pardon for thinking we could have a reasonable conversation on a matter of how a person can believe that their theory of the world is the most accurate
2902[2018-06-16 03:06:38] <spruit11> What does it matter?
2903[2018-06-16 03:06:58] <piscina> wasn't my intention to trigger you
2904[2018-06-16 03:07:02] <spruit11> I just state my bullshit like everyone else.
2905[2018-06-16 03:07:04] <piscina> it was just a conversation i thought
2906[2018-06-16 03:07:24] <_W_> piscina: you asked where our ideas come from and how we're determining they're the most accurate and I answered that rather comprehensively from basic fundaments and you did not engage
2907[2018-06-16 03:07:37] <piscina> sometimes i play devils advocate on points i don't even agree with to better contextualize the idea
2908[2018-06-16 03:07:48] <spruit11> On IRC?
2909[2018-06-16 03:07:52] <spruit11> Hahahaha.
2910[2018-06-16 03:07:54] <piscina> it's really helped my perspective of the world
2911[2018-06-16 03:08:19] <piscina> you claimed it was some kind of objective truth
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2913[2018-06-16 03:08:23] <spruit11> Get a philosophical education.
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2917[2018-06-16 03:08:37] <piscina> but we determined it was relative to the understanding of the population i thought
2918[2018-06-16 03:08:42] <_W_> I can continue if you like, building upon how we experiment to how we experiment with methods of experimentation, and how that leads to various scientific methodologies and guidelines
2919[2018-06-16 03:09:36] <piscina> with regards to, for example, an observable objective truth
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2921[2018-06-12 02:30:02] <Byteflux> what if they were unified, maybe it couldve been better
2922[2018-06-12 02:30:05] <Byteflux> who knows
2923[2018-06-12 02:30:20] <duckgoose> but the reason people are satrving in the north is because of it's leadership
2924[2018-06-12 02:30:31] <duckgoose> how could you be ok with that leadership over the south
2925[2018-06-12 02:30:55] <Byteflux> north and south weren't so different in their early days, everyone was going through a shitty time.
2926[2018-06-12 02:31:23] <duckgoose> the north, lead by the soviet union, invaded the south
2927[2018-06-12 02:31:47] <duckgoose> it the us was not involved, korea would have been under soviet control
2928[2018-06-12 02:31:50] <Byteflux> yes, and the support the US lended was justified, but im not referring to that.
2929[2018-06-12 02:32:13] <Byteflux> im referring to the creation of the north and south as independent countries after being liberated from japan
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2934[2018-06-12 02:35:33] <Deihmos_> anyone saw Rodman?
2935[2018-06-12 02:35:34] <duckgoose> ok Byteflux I see
2936[2018-06-12 02:35:38] <duckgoose> sorry
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2938[2018-06-12 02:36:14] <Byteflux> nothing to be sorry about, it's a love/hate relationship with the US :P
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2940[2018-06-12 02:36:37] <Byteflux> one thing ALL koreans can get behind: fuck japan.
2941[2018-06-12 02:36:42] <Byteflux> there's still strong anti-japanese sentiment
2942[2018-06-12 02:37:49] <Byteflux> mainly because japan tries to undercut the koreas whenever it can
2943[2018-06-12 02:38:22] <Byteflux> downplays their atrocities, elects a nationalist who worships japanese war criminals etc
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2945[2018-06-12 02:41:20] <Deihmos_> holy shit Rodman started to cry
2946[2018-06-12 02:41:39] <chu> lol
2947[2018-06-12 02:41:40] <Byteflux> Tears of Rodman, brought to you by PotCoin.com
2948[2018-06-12 02:42:22] <Byteflux> Rodman seems to try and plug PotCoin whenever he can lol
2949[2018-06-12 02:42:47] <oerheks> i think you can pay with it in trump hotels
2950[2018-06-12 02:45:38] <scampbell> I saw a place where the statesmen served the people and worked toward the common good of all... but they could only keep me in an induced coma for so long.
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2954[2018-06-12 02:50:31] <mcbain> wow trump lookin smooth so far
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2959[2018-06-12 02:52:11] <+Hoffman> mcbain: lol
2960[2018-06-12 02:52:11] <mcbain> no way no major change here when bolton is on the "follow up"
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2964[2018-06-12 02:54:04] <mcbain> if they are still talking after they leave and bolton is asked to come in after, im pretty sure somehow, someway all of nkorea's nukes are belog to us
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2969[2018-06-12 02:55:34] <mcbain> and russia->iran->syria combo is all that stands left
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2973[2018-06-12 02:56:07] <oerheks> + turkey
2974[2018-06-12 02:56:24] <mcbain> ya they went kinda sideways didnt they
2975[2018-06-12 02:56:41] <oerheks> they play  a ugly role in this
2976[2018-06-12 02:57:24] <mcbain> they are so passive agressive   :|
2977[2018-06-12 02:59:12] <mcbain> i think Jong-un and trump are watching peppa pig peace and harmoney espisode and sharing a joint
2978[2018-06-12 03:00:16] <oerheks> no smoking during the happymeal
2979[2018-06-12 03:01:01] <mcbain> its just sad , i bet kim just wants t see this guys orange face, hair  and small hands for the lulz
2980[2018-06-12 03:02:24] <mcbain> take a selfie , so he can go to the 1 network they have in nkorea and post new fb profile photo
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2984[2018-06-12 03:04:28] <lucky> https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/11/health/venezuela-polio-who/index.html whee
2985[2018-06-12 03:04:29] <+subtitle> [ Polio re-emerges in Venezuela nearly 30 years after eradication - CNN ]
2986[2018-06-12 03:08:52] <+justanotheruser> yikes
2987[2018-06-12 03:09:08] <+justanotheruser> Hoffman: nerd
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3004[2018-06-12 03:42:23] <sscout> Attorney General Denies Asylum To Victims Of Domestic Abuse, Gang Violence
3005[2018-06-12 03:42:23] <sscout> Jeff Sessions has broad powers over the nation's immigration courts and has long said that asylum seekers are "gaming" the U.S. system.
3006[2018-06-12 03:42:37] <sscout> https://www.npr.org/2018/06/11/618988483/attorney-general-denies-asylum-to-victims-of-domestic-abuse-gang-violence
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3008[2018-06-12 17:08:30] <NowhereMan> yes, the homo canuck section
3009[2018-06-12 17:09:01] <guideX> I feel like he stole that line from the tv show firefly
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3011[2018-06-12 17:10:06] <lupine> milker-in-chief
3012[2018-06-12 17:10:21] <piscina> have you guys ever listeened to Justine talk?
3013[2018-06-12 17:10:33] <piscina> um uh um mmh um uh uuuhm fuddleduddle!
3014[2018-06-12 17:10:37] <NowhereMan> lol
3015[2018-06-12 17:11:06] <piscina> and his father was a Marxist
3016[2018-06-12 17:11:12] <piscina> Pierre Elliot Trudeau
3017[2018-06-12 17:12:00] <NowhereMan> marxists everywhere
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3019[2018-06-12 17:12:58] <piscina> also listening to Justin speak in the HoC is enough to make anyone wanna blow their own head off
3020[2018-06-12 17:13:08] <NowhereMan> or laugh a lot
3021[2018-06-12 17:13:44] <piscina> when a dude gets asked the same question over and over and over again and all he does is goes off on a tangent with unrelated speaking points after running his campaign on supposed transparency
3022[2018-06-12 17:13:55] <piscina> Trudeau doesn't have much time left in the position he's in.
3023[2018-06-12 17:14:10] <piscina> i figure looking at the provincial election in Ontario should be enough of an indicator
3024[2018-06-12 17:14:21] <piscina> people are tired of the Liberals in Cnada
3025[2018-06-12 17:14:29] <NowhereMan> doesn't seem that way
3026[2018-06-12 17:14:34] <NowhereMan> let's see what happens
3027[2018-06-12 17:14:36] <piscina> you don't think?
3028[2018-06-12 17:14:41] <guideX> piscina, perhaps it's time to build the canadian wall
3029[2018-06-12 17:14:45] <NowhereMan> ^
3030[2018-06-12 17:14:48] <guideX> jk :P
3031[2018-06-12 17:14:51] <piscina> guideX: it'll be a privacy hedge ;]
3032[2018-06-12 17:14:59] <NowhereMan> or just move the US border north 100 miles
3033[2018-06-12 17:15:12] <NowhereMan> the rest the eskimos can have
3034[2018-06-12 17:15:33] <piscina> Canada also seems to be having a problem with rule of law as well.
3035[2018-06-12 17:15:40] <NowhereMan> oh?
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3038[2018-06-12 17:16:01] <piscina> in a placed that rhymes with fun called Regina Saskatchewan they have aboriginals camped out infront of the legislative building who have been given papers to remove themselves
3039[2018-06-12 17:16:17] <piscina> the aboriginals got on the radio and said they will not be moving regardless of anything the government does
3040[2018-06-12 17:17:02] <piscina> the demands of the aboriginals aren't something that can be fixed over night
3041[2018-06-12 17:17:17] <NowhereMan> why cave to the demands?
3042[2018-06-12 17:17:59] <piscina> according to justice.gc.ca website something like 85% or greater acts of violence towards aboriginals is perpetrated by aboriginals
3043[2018-06-12 17:18:11] <NowhereMan> sounds familiar
3044[2018-06-12 17:18:27] <NowhereMan> let me guess, they blame all the violence on others
3045[2018-06-12 17:18:37] <piscina> yet they want a nation wide investigation into the missing and murdered indigenous women and children
3046[2018-06-12 17:18:37] <DaScoot> most violent crimes are committed by people the victim knows
3047[2018-06-12 17:18:44] <NowhereMan> ^
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3049[2018-06-12 17:19:10] <NowhereMan> I don't see much reason to not investigate such a thing
3050[2018-06-12 17:19:21] <piscina> where i live almost daily is some kind of violence offense perpetrated by an aboriginal individual
3051[2018-06-12 17:19:30] <piscina> :s/violence/violent
3052[2018-06-12 17:19:44] <NowhereMan> so if the investigations lead to sentences for their own kind, so be it
3053[2018-06-12 17:20:02] <NowhereMan> but demanding the law addresses an issue while not respecting the law is lame
3054[2018-06-12 17:20:03] <+kunwon1> let's cool off on the racist dog whistles, thanks
3055[2018-06-12 17:20:19] <NowhereMan> oh look! someone just called us a racist!
3056[2018-06-12 17:20:22] <NowhereMan> how fine
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3061[2018-06-12 17:21:11] <piscina> well..  early this year was a court case with a gentleman named Stanley and a boy named Boushie.  Boushie and his friends were intoxicated and going into farm yards and taking things that didn't belong to them.  they tried running Mr. Stanley over with a car.  Stanley claimed self defense as a result of shooting Boushie in the head.
3062[2018-06-12 17:21:29] <piscina> it was the crux of the latest aboriginal movements in Canada
3063[2018-06-12 17:22:07] <piscina> Stanley was found not guilty as a result and the aboriginal communities kicked it into high gear
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3065[2018-06-06 02:22:23] <_kmh_> and with gop congress nobody will stop him anyhow
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3067[2018-06-06 02:22:47] <cata-doxas> once chinese ships launch missiles
3068[2018-06-06 02:22:51] <cata-doxas> congress can do whatever they want
3069[2018-06-06 02:22:52] <_kmh_> xau,  good
3070[2018-06-06 02:22:56] <oerheks_> The War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541–1548) is a federal law intended to check the president's power to commit the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of the U.S. Congress.
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3072[2018-06-06 02:23:04] <Byteflux> the president doesnt have power to declare war, but that hasn't stopped presidents from abusing the position to start wars without calling them a war
3073[2018-06-06 02:23:15] <mabus> extended combat operations
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3077[2018-06-06 02:23:26] <_kmh_> oerheks_,  yes but it isn't even sure whether that law is constitutional
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3079[2018-06-06 02:24:03] <kitties> i wish congress would limit trump's ability to use nukes :/
3080[2018-06-06 02:24:05] <_kmh_> oerheks_,  it's an untested leftover/legislative reaction from the vietnam debacle
3081[2018-06-06 02:24:21] <cata-doxas> kitties, i have no idea why that system still exists
3082[2018-06-06 02:24:27] <cata-doxas> there is no hurry at all to retaliate
3083[2018-06-06 02:24:34] <mabus> um what
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3086[2018-06-06 02:24:35] <oerheks_> nukes, .. the only way to win that war is to drop it on yourself, you win.
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3088[2018-06-06 02:24:42] <cata-doxas> a sub can still destroy russia 5 weeks after the US is no more
3089[2018-06-06 02:24:48] <cata-doxas> there is virtually no hurry
3090[2018-06-06 02:24:53] <cata-doxas> in retaliation
3091[2018-06-06 02:24:57] <kitties> did e.coffee just join part two different nicks and IPs? o_o
3092[2018-06-06 02:25:03] <Byteflux> unless russia has figured out a way to find the ballistic subs :P
3093[2018-06-06 02:25:20] <mabus> they will after they each launch their first one
3094[2018-06-06 02:25:20] <cata-doxas> unlikely
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3096[2018-06-06 02:25:22] <cata-doxas> all of them
3097[2018-06-06 02:25:24] <Byteflux> we don't know for certain that other nations don't have the tech/capability to track our ballistic subs
3098[2018-06-06 02:25:30] <mabus> and you just let russia destroy all your ground stations
3099[2018-06-06 02:25:33] <mabus> and air
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3101[2018-06-06 02:25:58] <mabus> vast majority of your arsenal
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3104[2018-06-06 02:26:19] <mabus> how many nukes do the subs even carry?
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3106[2018-06-06 02:26:24] <Byteflux> enough
3107[2018-06-06 02:26:26] <mabus> im guessing this is above my paygrade
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3109[2018-06-06 02:26:33] <cata-doxas> one carries 24
3110[2018-06-06 02:26:36] <cata-doxas> but they have 8 warheads
3111[2018-06-06 02:26:42] <cata-doxas> that can attack multiple cities
3112[2018-06-06 02:26:43] <mabus> ok and what are the launch codes pls
3113[2018-06-06 02:26:46] <Byteflux> you can be sure it's enough to retaliate and pretty much make the entire earth uninhabitable
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3116[2018-06-06 02:27:05] <mabus> Byteflux: per sub? how many missiles are we talking about here?
3117[2018-06-06 02:27:07] <+coffee_guy> oh geez
3118[2018-06-06 02:27:12] <mabus> oh he said 24
3119[2018-06-06 02:27:14] <Byteflux> nah not per sub, but all of them i'd say
3120[2018-06-06 02:27:14] <mabus> thats a solid answer
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3122[2018-06-07 03:35:33] <S_Gautam> HMM
3123[2018-06-07 03:35:38] <BlueLobster> it is the most beautiful country on Earth
3124[2018-06-07 03:35:50] <Byteflux> S_Gautam, too bad wars aren't won with troops lol
3125[2018-06-07 03:35:50] <+coffee_guy> it's a national thing
3126[2018-06-07 03:35:51] <BlueLobster> and had the most refined aesthetic
3127[2018-06-07 03:35:52] <Byteflux> not any more
3128[2018-06-07 03:36:13] <S_Gautam> Byteflux: well, we can easily enter Tibet with a large army as well as armoured vehicles
3129[2018-06-07 03:36:25] <S_Gautam> considering
3130[2018-06-07 03:36:31] <Byteflux> yeah, but that's tibet.
3131[2018-06-07 03:36:32] <Byteflux> lol
3132[2018-06-07 03:36:35] <S_Gautam> Tibet is sparsely populated
3133[2018-06-07 03:36:37] <BlueLobster> anyway what the fuck am I allegedly trolling about?  sushi and fucking teenaged boys?  these are fairly classical pastimes
3134[2018-06-07 03:36:53] <+coffee_guy> hehe
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3136[2018-06-07 03:37:02] <S_Gautam> and the Indian border with China is much more populated
3137[2018-06-07 03:37:04] <+coffee_guy> Dali lama is going to kick your ass
3138[2018-06-07 03:37:16] <S_Gautam> Dalai Lama has taken refuge in India
3139[2018-06-07 03:37:17] <S_Gautam> rekt
3140[2018-06-07 03:37:33] <BlueLobster> I think you will find that you cannot really enter Tibet while getting bombed to shit by the Chinese
3141[2018-06-07 03:37:38] <+coffee_guy> yup rekt
3142[2018-06-07 03:38:13] <+coffee_guy> of course china will just vaporize you
3143[2018-06-07 03:38:37] <Byteflux> so china. any bets on chinese hegemony in the next 30-50 years?
3144[2018-06-07 03:38:51] <kitties> i'm pretty sure it's already happening
3145[2018-06-07 03:38:59] <BlueLobster> nah if India fucks with China thrill just take all of Kashmir and Sikkim as the tax
3146[2018-06-07 03:39:00] <S_Gautam> BlueLobster: Probably build anti-aircraft stuff across the Chinese border
3147[2018-06-07 03:39:00] <kitties> given the decline of the US under trump
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3149[2018-06-07 03:39:12] <S_Gautam> BlueLobster: We'll nuke Beijing before that
3150[2018-06-07 03:39:15] <+coffee_guy> wow
3151[2018-06-07 03:39:29] <S_Gautam> they have more to lose than us
3152[2018-06-07 03:39:50] <Byteflux> damn lol
3153[2018-06-07 03:39:54] <Byteflux> what was that haha
3154[2018-06-07 03:39:54] <+coffee_guy> lol
3155[2018-06-07 03:39:58] <chu> Whoa, what happened to the Lobster
3156[2018-06-07 03:40:19] <Byteflux> i have no idea, but you usually don't get k-lined for no reason, although i did once get k-lined for no reason :p
3157[2018-06-07 03:40:32] <el> chu: perhaps read their recent lines
3158[2018-06-07 03:41:18] <+coffee_guy> ^5
3159[2018-06-07 03:41:18] <S_Gautam> apu and rajesh are your only hope at civil liberties once ding ling and chong ling start to recolonize europe
3160[2018-06-07 03:42:13] <+kunwon1> what does 'dong ling and chong ling' mean
3161[2018-06-07 03:42:25] <S_Gautam> idk
3162[2018-06-07 03:42:33] <S_Gautam> stereotypical Chinese/Indian names
3163[2018-06-07 03:42:39] <S_Gautam> my attempt
3164[2018-06-07 03:42:40] <+kunwon1> yeah that's what i figured you meant
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3169[2018-06-07 03:43:05] <S_Gautam> i offended a CPC member shit sorry
3170[2018-06-07 03:43:07] <chu> I see
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3176[2018-06-07 03:53:08] <piscina> abhorent
3177[2018-06-07 03:56:23] <Byteflux> http://thehill.com/homenews/media/391115-hannity-advises-witnesses-in-mueller-probe-smash-their-phones-to-little-itsy
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3179[2018-06-04 17:51:23] <_4920616d2e> Taking exception that there are some who call hetero-normative preferences "transphobic"?
3180[2018-06-04 17:51:28] <_4920616d2e> If that's bannable, no need.
3181[2018-06-04 17:51:31] <_4920616d2e> I'll just leave.
3182[2018-06-04 17:51:33] <_4920616d2e> XD
3183[2018-06-04 17:51:36] <+Queenie> "fruitloops who call hetero-normative preference "transphobics"
3184[2018-06-04 17:51:42] <_4920616d2e> Oh.
3185[2018-06-04 17:51:45] <_4920616d2e> pffft.
3186[2018-06-04 17:51:58] <_4920616d2e> If that twists a pantaloon then by all means, send me on my way.
3187[2018-06-04 17:51:59] <+Queenie> I guess you're fortunate in that nobody is paying attention at the moment.
3188[2018-06-04 17:52:02] <_4920616d2e> We'll both be better for it.
3189[2018-06-04 17:52:09] <+Queenie> Oh, no dude, I'm with you
3190[2018-06-04 17:52:21] <_4920616d2e> See?
3191[2018-06-04 17:52:32] <_4920616d2e> There is a toxic air of intolerance.
3192[2018-06-04 17:52:34] <jrawson> I'm reading it.
3193[2018-06-04 17:52:38] <_4920616d2e> That's the knee-jerk.
3194[2018-06-04 17:53:28] <+kunwon1> i wouldn't assume nobody is paying attention
3195[2018-06-04 17:53:28] <jrawson> I have better things to do than to get into a bullshit debate about something I don't care about.
3196[2018-06-04 17:53:35] <_4920616d2e> I'll just sit here and wring my hands.
3197[2018-06-04 17:53:43] • kitties: gives _4920616d2e a croissant
3198[2018-06-04 17:53:53] <+Queenie> kunwon1, I assumed based on a lack of a warning, honestly.
3199[2018-06-04 17:54:01] <kitties> maybe we should just find a new topic
3200[2018-06-04 17:54:01] <+Queenie> Also: HELLO BIG BROTHER
3201[2018-06-04 17:54:03] <_4920616d2e> I wasn't being hateful.
3202[2018-06-04 17:54:05] <+Queenie> Good to know you're watching
3203[2018-06-04 17:54:10] <_4920616d2e> I was having an opinion on an opinion.
3204[2018-06-04 17:54:13] <+kunwon1> _4920616d2e: you've called people here fruit loops and retards, that's not acceptable, alter your behavior
3205[2018-06-04 17:54:18] <+Queenie> _4920616d2e, you weren't, no. As far as I'm concerned, anyway.
3206[2018-06-04 17:54:27] <+Queenie> Aaaand... nevermind, I guess.
3207[2018-06-04 17:54:39] <kitties> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/mueller-has-waited-long-enough-its-subpoena-time/2018/06/04/01330048-6804-11e8-9e38-24e693b38637_story.html
3208[2018-06-04 17:54:40] <+subtitle> [ Mueller has waited long enough. It’s subpoena time. - The Washington Post ]
3209[2018-06-04 17:55:43] <_4920616d2e> kunwon1: I will comply with that though I called no one here a retard or a fruitloop.
3210[2018-06-04 17:56:05] <+kunwon1> yes you did, and if you do anything along those lines again i will ban you, so i suggest you review your logs
3211[2018-06-04 17:56:12] eelster (~eelster@198-178-12-62.denver.co.biz.comcast.net) joined the channel
3212[2018-06-04 17:56:20] <+kunwon1> we're not going to discuss it further, this can be a self-guided study for you
3213[2018-06-04 17:56:40] <+Queenie> Crack that whip. :D
3214[2018-06-04 17:57:02] <_4920616d2e> Oh, I see.  Someone here has the opinion that hetero-normative behavior is, "transphobic".
3215[2018-06-04 17:57:04] <_4920616d2e> enlightening.
3216[2018-06-04 17:57:07] <kitties> oh dear
3217[2018-06-04 17:57:23] <+kunwon1> _4920616d2e: drop this topic and don't bring it up again
3218[2018-06-04 17:57:41] <kitties> https://twitter.com/MicahGrimes/status/1003680988076171265
3219[2018-06-04 17:57:42] <+subtitle> [ Micah Grimes: “Former President George H.W. Bush has been discharged from hospital Monday after being treated for low blood pressure - @NBCPolitics” ]
3220[2018-06-04 17:58:09] <_4920616d2e> Which topic?  Exactly?  "politics"?
3221[2018-06-04 17:58:18] • _4920616d2e: cackles.
3222[2018-06-04 17:58:19] <kitties> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/pruitt-had-aide-do-numerous-personal-tasks-including-a-hunt-for-a-used-trump-hotel-mattress/2018/06/04/a1f72c84-6043-11e8-b2b8-08a538d9dbd6_story.html
3223[2018-06-04 17:58:19] <+subtitle> [ Pruitt had aide do numerous personal tasks, including a hunt for a used Trump hotel mattress - The Washington Post ]
3224[2018-06-04 17:58:36] <kitties> https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/69120590535081987
3225[2018-06-04 17:58:37] <+subtitle> [ Donald J. Trump: “Guests are raving about our exclusive hotel mattress and so we’ve made it available for purchase! http://bit.ly/sertahotel” ]
3226[2018-06-04 17:58:50] <+kunwon1> _4920616d2e: i have no fucking time for your feigned ignorance. don't respond to me further, any response to me at all will result in a ban. drop the topic that you were instructed to drop.
3227[2018-06-04 17:59:15] <_4920616d2e> kunwon1: Understood.
3228[2018-06-04 17:59:20] ChanServ sets mode +o kunwon1
3229[2018-06-04 17:59:24] kunwon1 sets mode +b $a:gruebler
3230[2018-06-04 17:59:27] kunwon1 sets mode +b $a:grueblur
3231[2018-06-04 17:59:29] kunwon1 kicked _4920616d2e from the channel (_4920616d2e)
3232[2018-06-04 17:59:31] kunwon1 sets mode -o kunwon1
3233[2018-06-04 17:59:55] <kitties> so, how about the cavs
3234[2018-06-04 17:59:59] <+Queenie> ...
3235[2018-06-04 18:00:35] <+justanotheruser> kitties: I'm more into thighs