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1So, our rebuttal to the post criticizing Free-Market Capitalism received a rebuttal from the author. Below is our rebuttal to his rebuttal of our rebuttal of his post.
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3Original post: https://www.facebook.com/KalavaiVenkat/posts/2086622908284741
4Our rebuttal: https://www.facebook.com/TheIndianRight/photos/a.1603844933005977.1073741828.1602079706515833/1874514042605730/?type=3&theater
5His rebuttal (quoted below): https://www.facebook.com/KalavaiVenkat/posts/2094810550799310?comment_id=2094907114122987&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R4%22%7D&hc_location=ufi
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7//You’re attempting an arbitrary definition which is fallacious. I was defining free market as it is practiced. Let me know how many CEOs protested TARP bailout… //
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9Once again, that's an equivocation fallacy. Please look up the definition here: [1] 
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11When you redefine a word to suit your argument, in this case, making up your own definition which has nothing to do with free markets (absence or less intervention of the state in economics), it is fallacious. 
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13It is also fallacious to equate what capitalists do with what capitalism is. The objective of capitalists is to maximize their profits. Capitalism or the free market system is based on low government intervention in the economic sphere. You cannot say “West is free market, west interferes and it’s bad, therefore free market bad.” That’s what you’re trying to do. We are not children. Don’t throw this nonsense at us.
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15The rational objective of any capitalist would be to maximize their profits and monopolize the market while capitalism works against monopolies through competition among producers. Capitalism and capitalists are not the same thing. It's funny that you argue against government intervention (bailouts) because government intervention is anti-market. There is also a reason why big corporations do not favor free market policies. What is pro-market is not necessarily pro-business or pro-cronyism. Pro-market is usually pro-consumer because it induces competition. Big domestic corporations (example: Patanjali) also favor protectionism because that shields them from competition from foreign producers. The Indian consumer should not be punished and forced to subsidize the incompetent domestic producers. This money could be channeled in more efficient ways. Big corporations also favor minimum wage laws, although minimum wage laws are anti-market, because they help them monopolize by putting small start-ups out of business. The whole point of free market proposal is to reduce government so that unscrupulous cronies don't get to rig the game. Yet, you want more of that.
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17//Otherwise, you’re indulging in the usual dishonest argument of the type the pseudo-scholar Ayn Rand dished out. The problem is that free market advocates invoke a definition which is not at all (and has never been and shall never be) in practice only when free market is critiqued!//
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19Still, the point remains that the closer to the definition we practice it, the better things get. You cannot oppose proper practice of an idea and then go about pretending you have refuted the very possibility and the other side is being dishonest. That is something you are doing, but we'll get to that later.
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21//Your response is irrelevant. My statement is intended to show that the IP laws which the West enforces are aimed at benefiting western corporations. So, the West would zealously enforce it! They don’t lose much by protecting a rare non-western patent. This is like the equally phony religious freedom argument. The West would demand that India open its borders to Christian missionaries and argue that it is reciprocally opening its borders to Hindu missionaries. The problem is that there are no Hindu missionaries and the West knows it. So, this enforcement argument is a straw man! 
22The West has devised other means to ensure that foreign wares are not hurting American corporations’ interests. No pharmacy would fill out a prescription written by an Indian doctor for a medicine which has been approved by Indian authorities. They would fear liability lawsuits. FDA won’t allow you to carry an Indian mango and plant it in America. The West has perfected means to protect the interests of western corporations.//
23How is our response irrelevant? We just pointed out that your argument is wrong in that the West implements IP laws strongly for all patents. Attributing motives to this arrangement is fallacious. Without intellectual property, Indian inventors will have no incentives to innovate either. False equivalence to missionary activity. Do you always throw jargon like “Christian”, “West”, “Missionary” to make emotional points? Western countries aren't advocating for missionary activity through diplomatic or political channels. Hindus very rarely proselytize in the West (except for ISKON), but this example is a red herring.
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25As for IP laws, they are aimed at benefiting innovators regardless of their race, color, and nationality. Simply because the West has innovated more doesn’t imply that they work only for the West. That is a stupid statement. You do realize that they enforce patents of an Indian and Chinese company working in their country as earnestly? What you're proposing is that we cannot innovate, so we will steal and even try to sell it back to you as knockoff.
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27It did work for China but because it offered complete disregard for labor and property rights on other fronts which allowed Western companies to manufacture goods for cheap. Why would anyone lobby to cut the same slack to India with its democracy and mess? Which leads to inevitable conclusion - Anyone agreeing with this and cheering for your proposal stands for dictatorship and a pirate nation.
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29//No pharmacy would fill out a prescription written by an Indian doctor for a medicine which has been approved by Indian authorities. //
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31No pharmacy would fill out a prescription written by an American doctor for a medicine which has not been approved by Indian authorities. So there.
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33//They would fear liability lawsuits.//
34Are you saying you are for letting people sell medicine without safety regulations? That's an Ancap-tier free market. Are you sure you are against it through a well thought position?
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36//No such free market ever existed, exists, or will exist. Such a scenario is not desirable either. Should I be free to sell a drug claiming to cure cancer when it cannot? Should I be free to release toxic waste from my industrial plant into the ecosystem? Should I be free to sell you a nuclear reactor so that you can install it in the basement of your home? Should you be allowed to import the latest Sukhoi fighter so you could fly it over the San Francisco airspace? //
37Collusion of the state with the market is referred to as crony capitalism. It has literally nothing to do with free markets. We see that the equivocation fallacy is strongly present throughout your post.
38You're setting up a boogeyman with Google and the Indian govt. by calling it a market policy and then pretending to bash it. If anything, you're the one arguing for government collusion with domestic companies in the form of protectionism while simultaneously criticizing government collusion with Google and calling it free market.
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40The free market does not mean that the role of the government is completely absent. Regulations are justified when there are externalities. When two or more parties engage in a voluntary transaction that also adversely affects a party that didn't consent to the transaction, the government needs to step in and play a regulatory role. Releasing toxic industrial waste into water bodies is one such instance. Nice attempt at a strawman.
41It’s not us who are complaining about regulating for externalities. Don't ask questions like "If I come from monkey then why there are monkeys around?" It just goes on to show you have little idea what you're trying to reject.
42//I am neither a socialist nor a Communist. Those are not the only alternatives to free market economy. Google is precluding the emergence of an Indian alternative by investing loose change. It is harvesting massive amounts of data worth billions.//
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44Your argument leans enough to the far left for you to be called a leftist and a socialist. Restrictive laws on private property for a self-professed common good is precisely what is carried out under socialism. Interventionism is inherently on the left while laisses-faire is on the right. Socialism and communism are merely extreme degrees of intervention in the market. Google isn't precluding anything. There are no laws in place that prevent Indians from starting the next Google. What's stopping innovation and entrepreneurism in India is the poor protection of patents, lack of R&D in the country, excessive red-tape, bureaucracy, and the ensuing corruption that prevents start-ups from functioning smoothly. In short, precisely the things you are arguing against. You do not realize that not everybody is hooked on your dope idea of “a united mindset where everybody works for the good of the nation.”. That’s a communist notion. People work and use products that suit them best. Nobody is forcing people to use Google. If there was a better alternative, people would switch to it. Before Google, there was Netscape Navigator, which dominated the market. People moved to Google because it was simpler and faster.
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46//In the long run, it doesn’t benefit India’s poor. Those who’re satisfied with getting a free wi-fi in a train station are like those content with the orgasm resulting from a quickie sex. They don’t realize that there is more to romance, sex, and marriage. The point here is that Google is taking over a market of 1.3 billion people virtually for free. Yes, the common man doesn’t know what is good for him or her. This is exactly why traditional Hinduism privileged the observations of a viprah over the opinions of the not so discerning laity. //
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48Yeah people should remain poor and starved like we used to. You don't know what's good for you. Let me decide what you can and cannot access. 
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50If Google is taking 1.3 billion people virtually for free, then so can our own billionaires of which many come from the telecom background. If they don't step up, then let the poor benefit. You can't predict their future and for what they'll use wi-fi access. 
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52//You don’t understand memetic algorithms. I have written extensively on memetics over the years. You may want to consult those. Here is one example of how social media is used to manipulate public opinion//
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54Like we said, everything is used to influence public opinion. Why even let our own oligarch influence us through their privately-owned media? Only the state can be trusted with such power, amirite? All political parties and domestic businessmen are angels who would never abuse the data collected to influence politics. Better yet – let’s pull the plug on electronics and go live in ancient golden age which you believe has managed to elucidate a living style suitable for all times.
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56And unfortunately for you, one of the authors is an AI researcher who understands memetic algorithms very well. So please don't try to throw random jargon that you do not understand at the reader in the hope that they will be confused enough to accept your point. That NDTV article you posted has nothing pertaining to memetic algorithms. It talks about the use of social media bots to spread information. That barely even qualifies as AI. 
57Please *specifically* state the memetic algorithm and link a journal/conference paper that describes it along with a link to the dataset used in a study to show that memetic algorithms shape public opinion. This is a factually incorrect claim. 
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59//I have written extensively on memetics over the years. You may want to consult those.//
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61Memetics have nothing to do with memetic algorithms. Memetics is a field of study that comes out a term called “meme” coined by Richard Dawkins, that refers to a reproducible unit of information. Memes compete in this evolutionary space and evolve over time in what they refer to as the “memesphere”. Memetics is not recognized as a valid field in science because memes have no predictive power. It is pseudoscience.
62https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics
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64//I am afraid this is reduction to univariate level of a multi-variate phenomenon.//
65It is not a reduction to a univariate level. To recognize the effect of one independent variable on the dependent variable does not override the effects of other independent variables, if any. Your examples are rather vague. The rise of intellectual property rights correlates with inventions and the countries with the strongest intellectual property rights also produce the most inventions and drive innovation.
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67//Nalanda University, when it was destroyed by the hordes of Muslims, housed 9 million books. Each one of those was authored without any IP incentive. Great works of art, literature, mathematics, music, and dance have all been created without IP. Ilayaraja wrote thousands of scores without any IP to protect those.//
68//Each one of those was authored without any IP incentive. Great works of art, literature, mathematics, music, and dance have all been created without IP. //
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70Blah! blah! blah! people are going to invent without property rights? Yes, they will. But will they innovate in same amount? Nope. Nice job comparing a primitive time with the modern world where every 5th person is trying to invent something. Nobody will be able to raise a billion dollars to find the cure for cancer if they can't safeguard their findings against copycat gangs. No one will bother to risk printing millions of copies of a books and make it accessible for masses without expecting some stable profits. But that's not surprising. You are the sort who find comfort in bling of oligarchs. You hate the fact that the poor benefit from free Wi-Fi and search engines, but you'll love making them pay to buy shitty knockoffs and products of our oligarchs. When you speak of wealth distribution, you are not arguing for redistribution between the West and the East, but between the rich and the poor here, and one where the rich get richer with little hope for the downtrodden to uplift themselves, as was the case with Nehruvian socialism.
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72//My point is that national interests should override IP controls. A nation should break West-imposed IP laws, if needed, to safeguard national interest. It can always design IP laws that benefit those who contribute to the nation. The West innovated more in recent times because – among other positive things -//
73Again, the assumption that everybody in India will work selflessly with the goal of making India a superpower, sacrificing their personal interest. Or as they call it – a communist utopia. Let India turn into innovation giant before we talk of anything like that. The net investment of both public and private sector despite historical rise in GDP and profits is abysmal. Our patent offices are ill staffed and can't process patent output as they are. That we have kept research in public sector away from "profit motive" hasn't helped in standing out with innovation or receiving the bang for our buck. And this is all despite these individuals being motivated to a degree by awe for science and stuff.
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75// it also had the benefit of huge colonial loot. It waged one war after another which fueled innovations. Let us not forget that India had 24% of world’s GDP (the same proportion which the USA has today) until the 1600s without IP laws.//
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77Hahahahaha! that's the dumbest thing ever. Comparing industrializing societies’ wealth generation and growth rate of innovation with agrarian ones stuck in a Malthusian trap. Maybe pick up those charts that capture a mostly flat line for thousands of years followed by a forever skyrocketing upward boom in the wake of the industrial revolution. Sure, the disparity between us and the West comes in considerable part from the colonial episode and they did benefit from looting us, but to think that all that glitters in west has been looted from the East is to have a faulty understanding of the nature of wealth. 
78The wealth of West as we see now comes from productivity. Yes, they robbed minerals and timber and gems from us. But ultimately, the fact they were able to build 20-fold on it is something that is creditable. If most of their findings were stolen from the East, what stopped rebuilding us back to 24% GDP? Japan and Germany were able to return with full steam despite getting leveled, nuked, disarmed, and having their intellectual property seized by victors and brain drain in its wake. 
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80It would be against anybody's interest except that of plagiarists and cheap replicators to dismantle IP laws. Without going into the whole colonial loot argument, the argument about India having 24% of the world GDP is a load of bullshit. India also had 25% of the world's population, so that much in an agrarian and pre-industrialized world is average at best. Now, if you factor in the fact that India had among the highest GINI levels in the world (income inequality), it would mean that the average Indian led a horrible life (lower than the standards of the average world citizen) and the wealth was skewed by the income of the elites.
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83When you match for size, Western Europe had a comparable GDP proportion to Eastern patches like China and the Indian subcontinent. GDP proportions are misleading anyway. What was the total global GDP back then? Surely it wasn't to tune of $80 trillion of today. We, with an economy inching towards 2.8 trillion dollars, are churning out more wealth today than entire world did back then. So, what? > Inb4 “GDP is a foreign concept.”
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85Here are some numbers from same study you harp about [2]:
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87//That is what is brought out by Maddison’s estimates of GDP per capita, again in PPP terms in 1990 dollars. In 1 AD, India’s GDP per capita was $450, as was China’s. But Italy under the Roman Empire had a per capita income of $809. In 1000 AD, India’s per capita income was $450 and China’s $466. But the average of the West Asian countries, such as Turkey and Iraq, was much higher at $621. In terms of general prosperity, therefore, it was the Arab world that was doing well a millennium ago. The Caliphate in Baghdad was a centre of power at the time and both science and culture flourished.//
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89//By 1500, though, new centres of prosperity had emerged. India’s per capita income was $550 and China’s $600 in 1500. The Arab world had declined. But standards of living in Western Europe at that time had already gone far ahead. Italy topped the table, with a per capita income of $1,100, the Netherlands following with a per capita income of $761. This was the Italy of the Renaissance, the Italy of Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci, of Raphael and Titian. The UK was not far behind, with a per capita income of $714.
90By 1600, the centre of Europe had shifted northwards and the golden age of Holland had begun. Dutch per capita income was $1,381 in 1600, while Britain in Shakespeare’s time had a per capita income of $974.
91Recall that 1600 was the year the East India Company was founded. In contrast, India’s per capita income continued to be $550, while China’s was $600. Note that even Ireland, one of the poorest of Western Europe’s countries, had a per capita income of $615, higher than India’s and China’s. In short, the per capita GDP numbers mirror the changes in power, prosperity and cultural and scientific achievement.//
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93//You missed the point. Data would be the bedrock of AI. As the Chinese focus on Made in China 2025 shows those countries which prioritize high-end technology would generate most wealth. This won’t be possible unless you zealously guard data. Yes, I want every country to have not only a restricted network but also a unique protocol for networking and computing. Any handshake between two countries should only be on trust and reciprocity. Public are swayed by propaganda. Most people cannot think beyond their next meal and their next orgasm – most of them over-eat and don’t experience the latter! So, they’re easy prey to hostile foreign propaganda. Every country should follow the Chinese model of restricting. Call it elitist if you want. I have never been an advocate of mediocrity. Just think. China has not had a riot since it acted decisively on Tiananmen and threw the western journalists out. India is being laid waste to by rioting scumbags. If those are mobilized on WhatsApp, the government should not only monitor but also block the networks which allow activities against national interest. I am also a strong advocate of rigorous technical monitoring all communications – including phone calls. //
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95Blocking exchange of information leads to civilizational collapse. Civilizations and cultures that isolate themselves from other cultures in terms of trade and cultural exchange (example: natives in Australia, North America, and tribal societies in sub-Saharan Africa) tend to fall behind and become backward over time. How is that model working out for North Korea by the way?
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97//Yes, I want every country to have not only a restricted network but also a unique protocol for networking and computing.//
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99Pray tell us what this "unique" protocol looks like and how it inhibits exchange with other countries. Are we also to ban citizens from traveling abroad and making ISD phone calls?
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101//Data would be the bedrock of AI.//
102Social media and search result data isn't the only data around.
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104//As the Chinese focus on Made in China 2025 shows those countries which prioritize high-end technology would generate most wealth.//
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106Sure, but international collaboration is essential for them to fulfill their ultimate potential.
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108//This won’t be possible unless you zealously guard data. Yes, I want every country to have not only a restricted network but also a unique protocol for networking and computing. //
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110Yeah, our scientists should receive and send data from particle experiments in incompatible data formats requiring "ICBM Minute men"-tier authorization to unlock for temporary use. People going abroad for work should use credit card and electronics that don't work out there. etc. What a dumb idea.
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112And why only for IT? Let’s also make our seaports and other infrastructure incompatible so that invading ships can't park. I say we should even ditch the metric system for R&D. And by your logic, the West should stop outsourcing data entry jobs to East. They should stop maintaining servers in the East because the Chinese and others can steal data of their citizens. Let’s add tremendous deliberate friction instead of improving interoperability to facilitate transactions because you're paranoid. Let dumb government clerks vet research collaboration between our scientists and rest of the world. Because it worked out very well for North Korea and the USSR.
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114Also, AI and data sciences aren't the only fields undergoing revolution, and certainly are not the end of innovation. You have fields like biotechnology, energy, sensing technology, to material sciences that will benefit from respecting agreements about protecting IP. All of that can be appropriated in name of national security. If we won't play by rules, they will have no reason to either. We will experience brain drain anyway as our own innovators will flock to innovate and market their products abroad, where they can earn some actual money for their hard work. Next, you'll say we should impose emigration control, so that they can rot with their potential here. Forever inching closer to North Korea.
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116//Any handshake between two countries should only be on trust and reciprocity. Public are swayed by propaganda. Most people cannot think beyond their next meal and their next orgasm – most of them over-eat and don’t experience the latter! So, they’re easy prey to hostile foreign propaganda. Every country should follow the Chinese model of restricting. Call it elitist if you want. I have never been an advocate of mediocrity. //
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118You are an advocate of mediocrity because that's what dictatorships breed. You love that because it allows you to hide in the crowd. For someone who thinks so highly of himself, you display a profound amount of ignorance and hubris about your own core premises. Maybe stop getting your facts from Whatsapp forwards?
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120//Just think. China has not had a riot since it acted decisively on Tiananmen and threw the western journalists out. India is being laid waste to by rioting scumbags. .//
121Govt. already does that. Temporary suspension of speech for security purposes is a different issue. Don't need to stay in emergency mode all the time. Your utopian “common good” is not going to take place because people are selfish, and that’s just human nature.
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123//If those are mobilized on WhatsApp, the government should not only monitor but also block the networks which allow activities against national interest. //
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125Which govt.? The current one? they have their own notorious Whatsapp cell.
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127//I am also a strong advocate of rigorous technical monitoring all communications – including phone calls//
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129LOL. You are free to mail all that information about yourself daily to the nearest relevant govt. office. Or you are free to live in China/North Korea where this already happens. We suggest you to start there.
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131//Once again, this is reduction to univariate level of a multi-variate phenomenon. The West sat on colonial loot. It is like the son of a corrupt and rich politician starting a business. India of the 90s profited by becoming the outsourcing outpost of the West doing low end work for short term gains. It came at a terrible cost because India failed to invest in real infrastructure and research. Its brightest ended up doing glorified clerical jobs for MNCs. Bright minds which should’ve worked on serious algorithms to predict how an actuary would fare 50 years from now wasted their time on abominations like agile and scrum. It is hardly the model to emulate. Interestingly, this 90s shift negated much of the gains India had made thanks to Nehru’s investments in and prioritizing of institutions of higher learning and R&D labs. //
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133Attributing the West's success to colonialism alone is a victimhood narrative. There are plenty of countries such as Sweden, Canada, Australia, and the US that never indulged in colonialism to the same extent as the British, French, Dutch, Spanish, or the Portuguese. 
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135//Interestingly, this 90s shift negated much of the gains India had made thanks to Nehru’s investments in and prioritizing of institutions of higher learning and R&D labs.//
136Absolutely false. R&D output is experiencing upward trend post 90's and especially since 2000's despite poor structuring and stagnant share of GDP allocated to R&D because we simply have more money in net terms to spare. More people can aspire to STEM education and more people can hope to get their research financed. Perhaps you should try backing these idiotic statements with some numbers.
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138Nehru's model was an abysmal failure. The economy under Nehru and his successors from the Congress was an absolute joke. No socialist policy has helped alleviate the poor in India to the same extent as the liberalization of the 90s. When the poor are given economic freedom to decide the course of their own lives as opposed to high handed preachiness of socialists like Nehru or Indira (or you, for that matter), they are in better position to lift themselves out of poverty. There is enough data to demonstrate the effects of the 90s liberalization [3] [4].
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140//Traditional Hindu India was highly protectionist. The Arthashastra talks about shreni (guilds) which protected the interests of the local artisans. India then was the richest nation on the earth and innovated and invented on multiple dimensions. Oh, in case you haven’t realized yet, India wasn’t following free market economy!//
141We are no longer a nation of artisans, nor is it sustainable to be a nation of artisans and we do not have quantifiable measured for the innovation, invention, or wealth production in India in that time. It is also to be noted that it was primarily an agrarian society and not an industrial one. India did thrive on trade with its neighbors and amassed wealth for centuries, but that's beside the point here. This is another logical fallacy: Appeal to Tradition [5].
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143And besides, the fact that all the dumb protectionism of that time didn't stop us from getting colonized only goes on to refute your remedy. See reference [2].
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145//Are you aware that China has blocked FB and Google and has developed alternatives? //
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147Are you aware China is a left-wing dictatorship? That's what dictatorships do. Should we hand over power to the Communist Party of India because China? China has blocked FB and Google and installed cheap substitutes in its place. It's funny you bring up China because the rise of "Communist" China's economy has been due to economic reforms brought about by Mao - greater economic freedom, opening sectors to private entrepreneurship and foreign investment, lowering of tariffs, etc. You may feel sorry for someone who cannot build the next Google or Facebook, but what's stopping them from building one now? And instead of being copycats, they could focus on solving new problems. To call someone brainwashed is not really an argument.
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149//There is just no reason why India cannot block these and develop an alternative in under a year. //
150The question is why should it? And if the argument is that people are too much of sheep, then let’s block cable TV and cut the internet cable to the outside world. 
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152//Reward those who spearhead that innovation – either by IP or by huge profit-sharing.//
153Market will already do that if they can come up with superior product, but then you have crony awards in mind.
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155//However, the moment an otherwise bright person feels that he cannot innovate (or beat) Google, I feel sorry for him. The free market brainwashing has taken a toll!//
156You are woke. Go get them Tiger!
157//The West disproportionately gobbles up the resources of the earth. You may even sell your child for $ 100 out of desperation – many Hindus did that under the Islamic and Christian colonial rule. That doesn’t have anything to do with the intrinsic worth of your child. The fact that an Indian would perform for $ 5 the work which an American would perform for $100 has a lot to do with the military might of America. That is what bestows bargaining power upon America and the West. That in turn controls trade and commerce. It doesn’t matter whether you create new wealth or deal with what exists today, this disproportionate distribution must change. //
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159There is no intrinsic value of a commodity. The value of a commodity depends on supply-demand. Cue: Theory of marginal utility. 
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161////The West disproportionately gobbles up the resources of the earth.//
162They are fully industrialized. That's how consumption patterns turn out in societies that can produce an abundance of goods. It’s not their fault that you refuse to improve productivity without arm twisting of crises and are busy pontificating your once-glorious years, and how many industrial licenses can dance on the head of a pin, and how it’s everyone else’s fault and conspiracy. For someone not standing for mediocrity, you surely make excuses a lot.
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164//You may even sell your child for $ 100 out of desperation – many Hindus did that under the Islamic and Christian colonial rule. That doesn’t have anything to do with the intrinsic worth of your child. The fact that an Indian would perform for $ 5 the work which an American would perform for $ 100 has a lot to do with the military might of America.//
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166Kindly explain how. And nice job conflating a child with a commodity to make a baseless, emotional argument. An Indian worker is far less productive than an American worker, leading to the lower wages. Canada and Scandinavian countries have comparable wages to the US with a much smaller military strength. Wages depend on productivity, not military strength. That is a very dumb statement. The total amount of wealth in the world is not fixed and there is no law of conservation of wealth. If you produce something that is of value to others in society and engage with them in a transaction, you will produce wealth.
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168//That is what bestows bargaining power upon America and the West. That in turn controls trade and commerce. It doesn’t matter whether you create new wealth or deal with what exists today, this disproportionate distribution must change.//
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170Do you even know who trade partners of India are? Out of our top 15 trade partners, only 4 are from the West. The US is second largest trading partner with a trade volume of $140 billion, while we are their 9th. We export more than we import. Something that would be called "Forced trade" and "Colonialism" in your speak. You are saying they almost spend some $600 billion+ dollars on military might to do a $140 billion trade and run 23 billion dollars in deficit? [6] [7] [8]
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172Slow clap for you, Indian Lenin. You have pulled every card in the leftist text book to fear-monger and romanticize times that are never going to come back. From "If you don't get communism then you have been brainwashed with capitalist false consciousness" to Lenin's theory of imperialism. What you propose is being a secretive cheat and copycat because others are doing it too on some level. Your opinion of our people's potential under freedom is no better than colonial oppressors you lament. You also subscribe to a zero-sum view of wealth just like we accused you when you claim to redistribute wealth between the West and the East by not honoring agreements. Maybe you also think that the only way to get rich is by plundering other nations, much like colonial powers.
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174References: 
175[1] https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/81/Equivocation
176[2] https://www.livemint.com/Opinion/Nb7KkZ3yOVSNW3vHf9K1oM/World-history-by-per-capita-GDP.html
177[3] https://voxeu.org/article/revisiting-poverty-reduction-india-60-years-data
178[4] http://econ.lse.ac.uk/staff/rburgess/wp/abrz031002.pdf
179[5] https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/44/Appeal-to-Tradition
180[6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_largest_trading_partners_of_India
181[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Trade_relations
182[8] https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/india-us-trade-estimated-to-touch-140-billion-in-2017/article22641977.ece