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1VereorNox> She [ADDED CENTRIFUGAL FORCE] Mishie 
213:54 <Megafire> Vern, what are you reading?
313:54 <Megafire> And why are you reading it?
413:54 <Elara> *Centripetal force
513:54 <Megafire> *Centripedal.
613:54 <VereorNox> I'm not even reading it
713:54 <Megafire> We're not working with flowers here.
813:54 <VereorNox> I just clicked on the latest chapter
913:54 <Elara> Megafire
1013:54 <VereorNox> Fugal, not Fungal
1113:55 <Megafire> :D
1213:55 <VereorNox> hah, Petal, pedal, Fugal, Fungal
1313:55 <VereorNox> Fuck
1413:55 <Luminifera> I find it absurdly cute how everyone here is a total nerd
1513:55 <VereorNox> We're on a roll
1613:55 <Luminifera> ^-^
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1913:55 <VereorNox> speak for yourself
2013:55 <VereorNox> I find all of you revolting
2113:55 <VereorNox> :<
2213:55 <Megafire> Vern, you love us and you knowit.
2313:55 <Megafire> *know it
2413:55 <Elara> centripetal means seeking the centre, centripedal means "I'm Dutch and I don't know what I'm talking about" :P
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2613:55 <Megafire> Fuck this stupid fucking keyboard.
2713:56 <Megafire> :D
2813:56 <Luminifera> Vern it's okay <3 we love you!!!
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3013:56 <Megafire> You know what, Elara?
3113:57 <Megafire> You are entirely correct.
3213:57 <Megafire> And I apologise.
3313:57 <Elara> <- learned Latin
3413:57 <Megafire> *studied
3513:57 <Megafire> :D
3613:58 <Megafire> I only had 2 years of Latin a long time ago.
3713:58 — •Glernaj grumbles about centrifugal force not being a thing.
3813:59 <Belaris> Is too a thing
3913:59 <Belaris> It's a resultant component other than a force in it's own right, but it certainly exists.
4013:59 <Belaris> *its
4113:59 <•Glernaj> the behavior exists, yes
4213:59 <•Glernaj> the force does not
4313:59 <Elara> eh, frames of reference, Relativity schmelativity, you can make things work with centrifugal force. it's just more complicated and messy
4414:00 <Elara> like, ooh, I don't know, phlogiston
4514:00 <Luminifera> centripedal.
4614:00 <Luminifera> a center foot
4714:00 <Luminifera> foot on the center
4814:01 <Luminifera> only one foot. 
4914:01 <•Glernaj> belaris, the fun thing? Texas state law uses the exact term "centrifugal force" as a part of it's definition of illegal knives
5014:01 <Elara> you'd have to hop around Lumi
5114:01 <Luminifera> hop hop hop
5214:01 — Luminifera checks for hops
5314:01 <Luminifera> no half ops
5414:01 <Elara> why do you need to talk about centrifugal force in the context of knives?
5514:01 <Belaris> I'm sorry?
5614:01 <Belaris> What?
5714:01 <Belaris> Why?
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5914:01 — Belaris has so many questions
6014:01 <•Glernaj> you know what a gravity knife is?
6114:02 <Elara> narp
6214:02 <Elara> ayy Suomi sieb
6314:02 <•Glernaj> it's basically a hollow handle, with a blade pressed into the handle by a spring inside
6414:02 <VereorNox> "Let's role play it!"
6514:02 <•Glernaj> you drop the knife as a hold, and jerk the handle upward
6614:02 <sieb> 'ello Britain Elara
6714:02 <VereorNox> "Obviously, let's roleplay it."
6814:02 <VereorNox> Wow
6914:02 <VereorNox> Fuck you, Undertale
7014:02 <•Glernaj> gravity keeps the blade dropping against the spring, and the lock engages
7114:02 <Belaris> I do now
7214:02 <Megafire> :D
7314:02 <Belaris> Just looked it up
7414:02 <•Glernaj> they can ALSO be opened with a strong flicking motion
7514:03 <Belaris> So are they allowed, or nah?
7614:03 <Megafire> You've had the Neutral ending, Vern?
7714:03 <•Glernaj> not allowed
7814:03 <Belaris> That seems... specific
7914:03 <•Glernaj> they're a type of switchblade basically
8014:03 <VereorNox> yeah, Megafire 
8114:03 <Belaris> Unless it's part of the general prohibition against-
8214:03 <Belaris> Yeah
8314:03 <VereorNox> Fuck that fucking boss fight
8414:03 <VereorNox> Crashing my game the entire time
8514:03 <•Glernaj> the specific passage prohibits gravity knives specifically, and sort of kind implicitly prohibits butterfly knives if you have no idea how they work
8614:04 <Megafire> That rotten bastard, yeah.
8714:04 <•Glernaj> (this is carry only, not possession)
8814:04 <•Glernaj> For even more reference Belaris, this same chunk of law also defines as an "illegal knife" a spear
8914:05 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
9014:05 <VereorNox> Is... is anime realß
9114:05 <VereorNox> ?
9214:05 <VereorNox> ANIME IS REAL, RIGHT?!
9314:05 <•Glernaj> also defined as an illegal knife? a sword
9414:05 <•Glernaj> here's a fun one: (C)  dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
9514:05 <Megafire> Hardest question in that game.
9614:06 <Belaris> I mean... I guess? If you're trying to keep the number of statutes down, that'll do it
9714:06 <VereorNox> Nah man, the hardest question in the game is "Who does Dr. Alphys have a crush on." Megafire ;D
9814:06 <•Glernaj> what the fuck happened that they felt the need to legislatively specify a dirk, stilleto, and poniard?
9914:06 <Elara> stiletto I can see, t'other two seem pretty odd
10014:06 <Megafire> There are no wrong answers to that question.
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10214:07 <Belaris> D&D has taught me that if I don't know the name of a weapon, it's a polearm, so a poniard is like a bunch of knives tied to a stick?
10314:07 <•Glernaj> it's a type of dagger
10414:07 <•Glernaj> (If you can't tell, I'm copy/pasting from the Texas penal code right now"
10514:07 <Belaris> More specifically, a Renaissance-era dagger
10614:08 <•Glernaj> check out THIS definition: (11)  "Switchblade knife" means any knife that has a blade that folds, closes, or retracts into the handle or sheath and that opens automatically by pressure applied to a button or other device located on the handle or opens or releases a blade from the handle or sheath by the force of gravity or by the application of centrifugal force.  The term does not include 
10714:08 <•Glernaj> a knife that has a spring, detent, or other mechanism designed to create a bias toward closure and that requires exertion applied to the blade by hand, wrist, or arm to overcome the bias toward closure and open the knife.
10814:08 <Belaris> Wtf happened in texas
10914:08 <Elara> basically means any knife that opens one handed is banned
11014:08 <•Glernaj> not at all Elara
11114:09 <Elara> but one that takes both hands to open then locks into place is ok
11214:09 <Elara> oh? that's how I read that
11314:09 <•Glernaj> folding knives are perfectly legal.
11414:09 <•Glernaj> like I said, that's describing a gravity knife
11514:09 <Elara> thing is tho, I've got a folding knife, but once I lubricated the hinge a bit it opens like a gravity knife
11614:10 <VereorNox> Megafire: Okay
11714:10 <VereorNox> True Lab is genuinely creepy
11814:10 <Megafire> :D
11914:10 <Belaris> D:
12014:10 <Megafire> Did you sleep in the bed yet?
12114:10 <Chrono|Mobile> meanwhile in Canada
12214:10 <Belaris> Elara criminal mastermind confirmed
12314:10 <Elara> ...I use it camping, FFS :P
12414:10 <Chrono|Mobile> you can't have any Gravity assisted, force-assisted or spring-assisted knives.
12514:11 <Belaris> Can I have a sword?
12614:11 <Chrono|Mobile> swords are legal
12714:11 <•Glernaj> Also, Belaris, have you heard of catle laws/doctrines?
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12914:11 <Chrono|Mobile> Cutter's Knives sells swords
13014:11 <•Glernaj> castle*
13114:11 <VereorNox> Megafire: I... I just opened the tap
13214:11 <Belaris> I have heard of castle law
13314:11 <Megafire> Heh.
13414:12 <•Glernaj> in Texas, it's legal to use lethal force in defense of:
13514:12 <•Glernaj> Your home.
13614:12 <•Glernaj> Your vehicle.
13714:12 <•Glernaj> Your place of business or employment.
13814:12 <VereorNox> If those logs are made by Alphys, Mega
13914:12 <VereorNox> Wow
14014:12 <VereorNox> Respect 
14114:12 <VereorNox> OH GOD
14214:12 <VereorNox> WHAT IS THAT BEHIND THE BED
14314:13 <Elara> Texas wow. fairly sure in the UK it is legal to use lethal force in defence of: your own life; another person's life
14414:13 <Elara> and that's basically it
14514:13 <•Glernaj> Right, self-defense is an entirely separate law.
14614:13 <VereorNox> Awww
14714:13 <VereorNox> That was adorable
14814:14 <Megafire> :D
14914:14 <•Glernaj> (Elara, they do have be trying to either forcefully remove you, forcefully enter, or be attempting/currently commiting aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery)
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15114:14 <•Glernaj> So not completely blanket.
15214:15 <Elara> you can use force in defence of your home, but only if you have either retreated, or have nowhere to retreat to, and use of lethal force would be deemed excessive
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15414:15 <•Glernaj> eugh, duty to retreat laws.
15514:16 <Elara> if you use or threaten force and they run away, you can attempt to exercise a citizen's arrest, but you cannot continue to use force on them
15614:16 <Elara> actually that's not quite right. hmmm. basically you can't attack them with a weapon if they're running away
15714:17 <VereorNox> Megafire: Why are there videos from my character
15814:17 <Megafire> :D
15914:17 <VereorNox> Is this a reference to restarting the game?
16014:17 <Megafire> I freaked out so much when I got to that room.
16114:17 <Megafire> Is it?
16214:17 <VereorNox> Because I kinda did that after I killed Toriel because I didn't know how to spare here before
16314:17 <Elara> personally I don't see what's wrong with saying you have a duty to retreat *if possible*. vast majority of burglars will run like fuck if they just become aware of someone in the household
16414:17 <Megafire> Is that at all possible, Vern?
16514:17 <Megafire> Did you ever see Asgore and Toriel together?
16614:18 <VereorNox> <.<
16714:18 <VereorNox> I'm pretty sure those two are married or something
16814:18 <VereorNox> The video tapes also indicate that
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17014:18 <VereorNox> Their houses WERE THE SAME
17114:18 <•Glernaj> Eh, Elara, just a lot of cultural weight towards the "stand your ground" reaction
17214:19 <Megafire> *Are* married, Vern?
17314:19 <Megafire> Then why do they live on opposite ends of the underground?
17414:19 <Megafire> And why did Toriel warn you of how dangerous it was outside if her husband wanted to kill you?
17514:19 <VereorNox> Well, it obviously has to do with the fact that in the Neutral ending he kinda told me they declared war on humanity and she was digusting
17614:19 <VereorNox> I'm on my way to the pacifist ending! I know this shit already! :D
17714:20 <Elara> see from my perspective I find SYG terrifying, as to me that sounds like...hmmm, spin a tale....say I drunkenly try to climb back into my house one night, except I got the wrong house (because drunk). under SYG someone can shoot me for that
17814:20 <VereorNox> Flowey told me how to get the best ending. Most creepy piece of shit in the entire game taht he is
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18314:21 <•Glernaj> Sort of Elara?
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18514:21 <Megafire> So.
18614:21 <•Glernaj> Actually, I'm not sure how that case would play out here.
18714:21 <Elara> personally I have quite a good sense of direction, even when drunk, but I know people who've pulled shit like that. I think duty to retreat takes all uncertainty out of the situation - if you've warned someone, and retreated, and yet they're still coming, they're definitely a threat
18814:21 <Megafire> You have never been here.
18914:21 <Megafire> You were not there when those videos were recorded.
19014:21 <Megafire> Yet, your name is on them.
19114:22 <Megafire> :D
19214:22 <VereorNox> It was also on the coffin
19314:22 <Megafire> :D
19414:22 <VereorNox> <.<
19514:22 <VereorNox> Fuck you, Mega.
19614:22 <Megafire> (You are not who you think you are.)
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19914:22 <•Glernaj> Eh, duty to retreat makes sense in defense of person to me, but not in the context of castle laws.
20014:22 <•Glernaj> retreating away from the house kinda defeats the purpose of defending it
20114:22 <Megafire> Or, rather, you did not name who you thought you named, and you are not who you think you are.
20214:23 <Elara> nah, you don't have to retreat from the whole house
20314:23 <Elara> it's about retreating within the house, e.g into another room
20414:23 <Megafire> And this is not yet the biggest curve ball the game has thrown you yet.
20514:24 <Elara> certainly in UK law it's just one way of showing you weren't looking for a chance to use force, and were acting reasonably when you did use force
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21014:27 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
21114:27 <VereorNox> >What if something without a soul gets the will to live
21214:27 <VereorNox> >The flower is gone
21314:27 <VereorNox> ._.
21414:27 <Megafire> :D
21514:28 <Megafire> Now you also know why Alphys considers herself trash, by the way.
21614:28 <VereorNox> Eh
21714:28 <VereorNox> come on
21814:28 <VereorNox> She likes Anime
21914:28 <VereorNox> Of course she's trash
22014:28 <VereorNox> She's waifu trash
22114:29 <Megafire> Nah, the kind of shit she did down here caused major self-esteem issues.
22214:30 <VereorNox> "Do you think we can be friends again?"
22314:30 <VereorNox> "NO, Asgore!"
22414:31 <VereorNox> Dunno, I feel bad for him
22514:31 <VereorNox> He's a miserable king with his decisions, but his personality makes me feel bad for him all the time D:
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22714:31 <Megafire> Heh.
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22914:33 <VereorNox> NO
23014:33 <VereorNox> FLOWEY
23114:33 <VereorNox> YOU TRAITOR
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23614:34 <Megafire> Well, guess who your best friend was?
23714:34 <VereorNox> Shush
23814:34 <VereorNox> I'm enjoying the scenery
23914:34 <VereorNox> That is to say
24014:34 <VereorNox> I can't do anything
24114:34 <VereorNox> Besides watching my friends block his attacks
24214:35 <VereorNox> Asriel Dreemur
24314:35 <VereorNox> Well, shit
24414:36 <Megafire> :D
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24614:38 <Elara> what are you talking about Vern?
24714:38 <•Mishie> Undertale
24814:39 <Elara> this is the game krahe was talkin' bout recently, right?
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25014:45 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
25114:45 <VereorNox> The shit is that
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25314:45 <Megafire> Hmm?
25414:45 <VereorNox> Giant wings
25514:45 <VereorNox> This is not even my final form1
25614:47 <Chime> hah final reality xiii
25714:47 — Chime references link from hours ago
25814:49 <Elara> that's Chime for ya, always on the ball
25914:50 — Chime stands on a giant ball, balancing precariously
26014:52 — Luminifera hugs chime
26114:53 <Chime> aww :) 
26214:53 <Elara> careful Lumi, don't make him fall off!
26314:53 — Chime falls off of giant ball
26414:53 <Chime> whoa what- 
26514:53 — Elara sighs, deploys the trampoline under Chime
26614:54 <Chime> i'm glad it's so easy to manifest bouncy objects in virtualspace
26714:54 — Megafire sets it all on fire.
26814:55 <Elara> I was ready for that Chime
26914:55 <Elara> I wasn't ready for mega though
27014:55 — Elara runs screaming
27114:56 <VereorNox> Shit
27214:56 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
27314:56 <VereorNox> I don't wanna do a genocide run after this
27414:56 <VereorNox> this ending is too perfect
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27614:57 — Luminifera happily dies in a fire
27714:57 <Megafire> Yeah, I'm in the same boat.
27814:57 <Megafire> I tried starting the genocide run, but, eh.
27914:57 <Megafire> Did you go back to talk to Asriel, though?
28014:58 <Elara> o/ panth
28114:58 — Elara weeps over Lumi's ashes
28214:58 <VereorNox> On my way, Mega
28314:58 <Megafire> Cool.
28414:58 pantherasapiens → panth
28514:59 — panth observes Lumi
28614:59 <panth> Heyo Elara 
28714:59 <panth> And vern et al
28815:02 <Elara> wow, I didn't think I could get to dislike the Duke much more
28915:02 — Elara caught up on Twig
29015:04 <panth> o_o
29115:04 <Luminifera> Lumiashesra
29215:06 — Elara infuses Lumiashesra with Regeneration Energy to turn her back into Luminifera
29315:06 <Luminifera> :D
29415:07 <Luminifera> thank you!
29515:07 <Luminifera> that would be impossible, but thank you
29615:08 <panth> Elara is the Doctor now?
29715:08 <Elara> ha, I'm much more likely to be Missy, surely?
29815:08 <Chime> Elara for 13th doctor
29915:09 <panth> Well Elara is certainly bananas!
30015:09 — panth wouldn't put a Cyber-army past Elara
30115:09 <Chime> hehe
30215:09 <Elara> I'm a terrrrrible actor Chime
30315:10 <Megafire> Anyway, yeah, the Duke's... unhinged.
30415:11 <Chime> eh, we can touch that up in post-production. somehow. with timelord technology.
30515:11 <panth> Are there any Let's Reads for Twig or Pact?
30615:11 <Elara> run one panth
30715:11 <panth> I'm thinking of it yeah
30815:11 <panth> xD
30915:12 <Megafire> Oh, that does sound very interesting, yeah.
31015:13 <Elara> I don't think the Duke is unhinged though, I think he just comes from a really weird (to us) context
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31215:14 <Shem_Phone> morning! 
31315:14 <Shem_Phone> or evening or whatever
31415:14 <panth> Hey Shem
31515:15 <Shem_Phone> I'm in Venice, heading back to Israel
31615:15 <Shem_Phone> *Vienna
31715:16 <Megafire> The end result's the same, though.
31815:17 <Elara> mmm kinda sorta
31915:17 <•Clarvel> http://6dollarshirts.com/t-shirts/Sex-Tape-T-Shirt-p-13290.html
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32115:20 <Luminifera> hello shem!
32215:21 <Shem_Phone> :D hi Lum! 
32315:21 <Shem_Phone> I see you're back
32415:21 <Luminifera> I am
32515:21 <Luminifera> I am also front
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33015:25 <Shem_Phone> hi ascii
33115:28 <Megafire> Goddamnit Lumi.
33215:28 <Megafire> That joke was bad and you should feel bad!
33315:28 <Luminifera> :(
33415:28 <Luminifera> sorry
33515:29 — Elara scowls at Megafire for making Lumi feel bad
33615:30 <Megafire> I did not make her feel bad, I said she should feel bad! There is a marked difference!
33715:31 <Megafire> inb4 'scowl deepens'.
33815:31 <Megafire> You know, I need to figure out what I'm going to do with punctuation in these cases.
33915:31 <Elara> you wanted her to feel bad, you expressed that want, she feels bad. clear correlation, even if you're denying the causation, I feel justified in blaming you :P
34015:31 <Megafire> Boo.
34115:32 <Olivebirdy> :P
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34315:33 <Elara> what's wrong with your punctuation mega?
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34515:33 <Megafire> Oh, it's flawless, of course.
34615:34 <Megafire> However, there are times where I fuck it up on purpose for effect.
34715:34 <Megafire> 'inb4 'scowl deepens'.'
34815:34 <Megafire> No capital at the start.
34915:34 <Megafire> Yet, I still ended that with a period.
35015:34 <Megafire> Why did I do that?
35115:34 <Megafire> I don't know.
35215:35 <Luminifera> ...
35315:35 <Luminifera> lol
35415:35 <Chime> i spent years IRC'ing in a channel where proper capitalizaton and some kinds of punctuation were sort of regarded as like... overly formal for the casual setting, so i've kinda gotten accustomed to it
35515:35 <Luminifera> punctuation ceases to exist for me online
35615:35 <Luminifera> it just doesnt
35715:36 <Luminifera> see
35815:36 <Luminifera> no apostrophe
35915:36 <Chime> lumi you punctuate with enter keys
36015:36 <Luminifera> fuck da rulez
36115:36 <Chime> hehe
36215:36 Nae|afk → •Nae
36315:36 <Elara> I try to keep up with capitalisation for proper nouns, and apostrophes, for the sake of clarity if nothing else
36415:36 <Megafire> See, but proper punctuation is my calling card.
36515:37 <Megafire> It's like, the thing I do.
36615:37 <Elara> the enter key is functionally a full stop in this context though, and starting with a capital seems unnecessary
36715:37 <Chime> *nods*
36815:37 <Megafire> It sets me apart from the plebes, makes me unique.
36915:37 <Luminifera> the thing I do is... nothing
37015:37 <Megafire> Also, it makes me feel better.
37115:37 <Luminifera> I have no thing I do and I don't care if it makes anyone feel better :P
37215:37 <Chime> I find I tend to capitalize/punctuate more properly if I'm trying to put two full sentences in. Otherwise it's just a run-on in the middle which looks horrible
37315:37 <Luminifera> I punctuate with emojis
37415:38 <Luminifera> also autocorrect
37515:38 <Chime> (and yes, i purposefully put two sentences in that line)
37615:38 <Megafire> Also, could someone tell me why I'm reading a take-down of Stepping on Worm again?
37715:38 <Elara> autocorrect is, IME, far more likely to 'correct' an unusual word than to correct an actual typo
37815:38 <Megafire> Because I'm not sure I should be doing that.
37915:39 <Elara> other than a transposition
38015:39 <Chime> my phone somehow lost the uncapitalized version of the word "Cape" yesterday, it kept autocorrecting "cape" into "Cape"
38115:39 <Chime> no idea how that even happens
38215:39 <JETHULHU> I rise
38315:39 <Elara> if you've capitalised it too many times
38415:40 <Elara> I had that happen with a few things
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39015:41 <Luminifera> where's the n
39115:41 <Shem_Phone> oh god, wildbow, why
39215:41 <Luminifera> shem
39315:41 <Luminifera> NO SPOILERS
39415:41 <Luminifera> :|
39515:41 <Shem_Phone> why is it so excruciatingly slow
39615:41 <Shem_Phone> to download Pact chapters
39715:41 — Elara points at topic
39815:41 <Luminifera> ah.
39915:42 <Shem_Phone> it's like 35 seconds, per chapter, to download it offline
40015:42 <Luminifera> elara, twig spoilers about the most recent chapter are a matter of politeness.
40115:42 <Shem_Phone> imagine an unskippable 35 sec ad on YouTube, but on pact
40215:43 <Luminifera> imagine copying and pasting every chapter on a .txt file
40315:43 — Shem_Phone is on Pact 5.3
40415:43 <Shem_Phone> lumi, you did it on Pact? 
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40915:44 <Shem_Phone> a Worm PDF I have, but if I had one for pact it would be miraculous
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41415:45 <Luminifera> I did it on worm
41515:46 — Elara hopes Shem donates to the Patreon
41615:46 — Shem_Phone wants to...
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41815:46 — Shem_Phone really wants to
41915:47 <Shem_Phone> Blake is so tough, by the way
42015:47 <Elara> when you're getting Army pay Shem
42115:47 <Elara> :P
42215:47 <Shem_Phone> he got like 5 Guts
42315:47 <Shem_Phone> Elara, maybe I actually will! 
42415:47 <Shem_Phone> it's like 50 dollars a month, I think
42515:48 <Shem_Phone> oh! two things I really like in Pact so far
42615:49 <Shem_Phone> the lying mechanic and the third victory
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42815:49 <Elara> they pay you 50 bucks a month? yaysus
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43015:49 <Shem_Phone> it's high? it's low? 
43115:49 <Shem_Phone> it's supposed to be a symbolic payment
43215:49 <Elara> that's fuck all
43315:50 <Elara> they should at least pay you minimum wage
43415:50 <Shem_Phone> people in need of more money get more money
43515:50 <Shem_Phone> but it's not really supposed to pay minimum wage
43615:50 <Shem_Phone> because mandatory
43715:50 <Shem_Phone> ...
43815:51 <Elara> when we had National Service, it paid
43915:51 <Shem_Phone> oh, no, just asked my brother who worked on it
44015:51 <Shem_Phone> 500 Shekels
44115:51 <Shem_Phone> so, like 140 dollars
44215:52 <Elara> then again, we got rid of National Service because the generals were begging to be allowed a professional army back :P
44315:54 <Elara> oh my god, sudden rainstorm outsid
44415:54 <Elara> I can barely see the other side of the road
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45015:58 <VereorNox> ...
45115:58 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
45215:58 <VereorNox> I ust realized something
45315:58 <Megafire> Yes?
45415:58 <Shem_Phone> gah. do slow.
45515:58 <VereorNox> when you take a look at the coffin again, it's not completely empty, there's a bunch of bandages in it
45615:58 <VereorNox> And what is the starting armor?
45715:58 <Megafire> A bandage.
45815:58 <Megafire> Interesting.
45915:59 <Shem_Phone> so*. and the worst part is, I keep accidentally spoiling myself
46015:59 <Megafire> But, of course, you are not you.
46115:59 <Megafire> Basically, there are three people involved here.
46215:59 <VereorNox> So if you go full Pacifist, you were able to completely ignore Chara's influence
46315:59 <Shem_Phone> at least my hair feels sweet
46415:59 <Megafire> Yes.
46515:59 <VereorNox> But if you go genocide...
46615:59 <Megafire> Chara takes over and then kills you.
46716:00 <Megafire> And if you try to reset they demand you sell them Frisk's soul, otherwise they'll permanently lock the game.
46816:00 <Megafire> This corrupts any Pacifist runs you try to do afterwards.
46916:01 <Luminifera> ohh
47016:02 <Megafire> Also, in Neutral runs, Chara is split between you and Flowey.
47116:02 <Elara> whassup Lumi?
47216:02 <Megafire> As in, Flowey is not just Asriel, but also partially Chara, as they fused their souls before going out on their happy little murder spree.
47316:03 <Megafire> Which Asriel prevented.
47416:03 <Olivebirdy> I got 400 a month.
47516:03 <Olivebirdy> But, Shem, don't forget, you get a lot? of money at the end. 
47616:03 <Megafire> And now all we need to figure out is how Gaster and Sans are involved inthat.
47716:03 <Megafire> *in that
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48216:19 <Shem_Phone> Olivebirdy: how much is it? 
48316:20 <Olivebirdy> I was a jobnik, rama daled or gimmel, I think?
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48816:22 <Olivebirdy> 10-11,000 clean, + 20,000 for marriage, education, buying a house, making a business and I forgot the fifth one.
48916:23 <Elara> ...the government pays you to get married?
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49116:23 <Olivebirdy> Well, allows you to use your money for marriage.
49216:24 <Olivebirdy> (We're not actually considered that mature)
49316:24 <Elara> encouraging immature people to get married, that'll end so well
49416:24 <Luminifera> ^
49516:24 <Luminifera> aww olive
49616:24 <Luminifera> how cute!!!
49716:24 <Olivebirdy> Someone in the government decided that kids fresh from the army should be encouraged to do something productive.
49816:25 <Elara> or reproductive, apparently
49916:25 <Luminifera> I have three ex-classmates who are girls my age getting married in the next couple of months
50016:25 <Twonk> Good to come back to wordplay
50116:25 <Luminifera> hahahahha
50216:25 <Luminifera> good one elara
50316:28 <Olivebirdy> TAking down the sukkah~
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50516:29 <Elara> how's Twonky?
50616:30 <Twonk> Pretty good ^^ Just finished tutoring, heading into town to meet my Dad before he heads off for a while
50716:30 <Olivebirdy> Oh, dear me, I should have said 'tabernacle'.
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50916:30 <soulpelt|> tbf given the tumultuous history of Israel and her people  being paid to expand your family and shit is to be expected
51016:31 <Olivebirdy> Or, maybe the government is being nice?
51116:31 <VereorNox> Megafire: 
51216:31 <VereorNox> Considering the following
51316:31 <Olivebirdy> SOmeone wants to get married, they get to use the money.
51416:31 <Megafire> I am preparing to consider.
51516:31 <VereorNox> Chara's Soul was in the tube at Asgore, right?
51616:31 <soulpelt|> sure Olive, let's go with that.
51716:31 <VereorNox> Are we sure that Chara whose soul was fused with Asriel and Chara whose soul is in the tube are the same?
51816:32 <Elara> yeah, government policy is so often built around being nice
51916:32 <soulpelt|> .....wat
52016:32 <VereorNox> What if the one that was fused with Asriel was actually another soul that had possessed the first kid that fell down? 
52116:32 <Elara> especially in states that have spent much of their history in a state of cold or hot war
52216:33 — soulpelt| pats Olive on the head
52316:33 <Shem_Phone> no, it's even more evil than that
52416:33 <Shem_Phone> See, arabs who live in Israel are not recruited 
52516:34 <Shem_Phone> so, even though they don't have to serve
52616:34 <Shem_Phone> THEY don't get paid for reproducing
52716:35 <Elara> obviously, gotta maintain that precious demographic majority
52816:35 <VereorNox> Megafire: The thing that got me on the idea is because I am watching a genocide playthrough, don't think I can do it myself
52916:35 <soulpelt|> VereorNox: K I L L
53016:35 <VereorNox> And at one point, Undyne says "You will kill them all, monsters, humans." and "Whatever you are."
53116:35 <Megafire> It wasn't in the tube.
53216:35 <soulpelt|> BLOOD AND FIRE, FIRE AND BLOOD
53316:36 <Megafire> One tube was empty.
53416:36 <VereorNox> Yes, that's the tube that your soul was supposed to go in
53516:36 <VereorNox> Right?
53616:36 <Megafire> And there was no red heart among the six that were there, while Chara's tomb did have a red heart.
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53816:36 <VereorNox> There were six souls, though
53916:36 <Megafire> Yes.
54016:36 <soulpelt|> Anyone want to buy me Undertale? :P
54116:37 <Megafire> Six other children, but none of those soulds were Chara's (and yours) red one.
54216:37 <VereorNox> So the first child's soul, isn't actually Chara's soul
54316:37 <VereorNox> And you aren't the 7th kid, but the theoretical 8th
54416:38 <Megafire> The First Child's Soul is Chara's, but not one of the ones Asgore has.
54516:38 <soulpelt|> (take it to PM perhaps Meg and Vern?)
54616:38 <Shem_Phone> What date does afterbirth come out? 
54716:38 <VereorNox> A few minutes after the actual birth, Shem_Phone 
54816:38 <Shem_Phone> and I sort of agree with soult
54916:39 <Shem_Phone> I asked what date, vern
55016:39 <Shem_Phone> like, second date?  fifth? 
55116:39 <VereorNox> Same date
55216:39 <VereorNox> A few minutes afterwards
55316:39 <Shem_Phone> ah
55416:39 <soulpelt|> October 30th Shem_Phone 
55516:40 <Shem_Phone> oh, just a few days after Fall 10th, neat
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56016:41 <Bruticus> Morning, people
56116:41 <Elara> hey Bruti
56216:42 <Bruticus> Hey 'lar
56316:43 <Elara> :( some people in my government are so evil
56416:43 <Bruticus> Same
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56616:43 <Bruticus> Though maybe not as evil as yours
56716:44 <Twonk> Shem, you see the most recent Afterbirth update post?
56816:44 <howl> o/
56916:44 <Shem_Phone> how recent? 
57016:44 <Shem_Phone> howl hi
57116:45 <Elara> it's probably positioning for a leadership run, but Theresa May has given a speech at conference claiming (contrary to actual government data) that immigration is teerrrriiiibbbblllleee and evil and must be stopped before we all die horribly
57216:45 <Twonk> Released yesterday, I think
57316:45 <howl> I literally have nightmares about Theresa May becoming prime minister.
57416:46 <soulpelt|> is England blowing up yet?
57516:46 <Twonk> Danielle had the baby, so he didn't have time to write a full post. Instead he wrote a couple short things and accompanied it with a picture of the literal afterbirth
57616:46 <Bruticus> No, the Millennium zeppelins haven't shown up yet
57716:47 <Bruticus> Nor the Catholic Church
57816:47 <Elara> fortunately not spelt
57916:47 <Luminifera> Olivebirdy: 
58016:47 <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
58116:47 <Elara> I'm not sure she's much worse than Gideon howl?
58216:48 <Bruticus> Lumi. is really the time to ask?
58316:48 <Luminifera> :( sorry. I don't know.
58416:48 <howl> Osborne was born Gideon? Haha.
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58616:49 <howl> I guess he changed it because "Gideon Osborn" is too darklord-ish.
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58816:49 <Elara> I'm still kicking myself for voting Tory in '10
58916:50 <Bruticus> Just jokin' Lums
59016:50 <howl> Cameron always seemed paradoxically human, even to me, even now, after the benefits act and the dystopian speeches.
59116:51 <Elara> yeah
59216:51 <Elara> I think that's because he believes
59316:53 <howl> or because he's the most accomplished shapeshifter the Lizardine can front.
59416:54 <howl> ._. I'm joking. Why is it so quiet now.
59516:54 <Elara> oh do calm yourself Mr Icke
59616:55 <Shem_Phone> Olive, answer the question! 
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59816:56 <Chime> http://imgur.com/gallery/wu8b62y
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60317:01 <Luminifera> only alive live live live!
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60517:01 <Elara> Lumi wut?
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60717:02 <soulpelt|> I think Lumi is being silly
60817:02 <howl> I'd guess she's singing.
60917:02 <Megafire> ^
61017:02 <Luminifera> yes!!!!!
61117:02 — Luminifera gives howl a surprise present
61217:02 <soulpelt|> takei.jpeg
61317:02 <howl> Is it a recording of an adventure time song played on guitar?
61417:03 <Luminifera> uh?
61517:03 <Luminifera> open it. it's a surprise.
61617:03 <howl> I'm fearful of surprises.
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61817:03 <Chime> daddy~~~ why did you steal my fries~~
61917:04 <Elara> Nae has done away with all the other ops
62017:04 <Elara> Nae is now the overlord
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62517:05 <Chime> a challenger appears!
62617:05 <Luckylee> yo Mishie 
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62817:05 <•Mishie> ;)
62917:06 <Luckylee> Did you invite Kumar to the channel yet 
63017:06 <Luckylee> He'd fit right in
63117:06 <Luckylee> :^)
63217:06 <Luminifera> Taylor is a Mary sue?
63317:07 <Luckylee> No she is a Herbear.
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63517:07 <howl> We didn't need so many ops. The only people who break "respect ops" are untouchable anyway.
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63717:08 <howl> the rule probably should have just been "respect".
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63917:09 <•Mishie> howl: hmm?
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64117:10 <Luckylee> r00d.
64217:10 <•Mishie> Luckylee: I will ban you from here since I know you're just here to troll :)
64317:10 <Luckylee> I didn't do shit
64417:10 <Luckylee> Wtf
64517:10 <Luckylee> I just observe.
64617:10 <Luckylee> and make crappy one liners
64717:10 <Luckylee> cmon man
64817:10 <•Mishie> this will end with WD as admin of #lol
64917:10 <BillDoor> If that was a bannable offence wouldn't everyone on dlp get banned
65017:10 <Luckylee> That'd be like banning the entirety of spacebattles
65117:10 <tubes> meems
65217:10 <•Mishie> BillDoor: it's because Luckylee is a special brand of bads
65317:10 <Luckylee> It won't Mishie
65417:11 <Luckylee> It will end with Sree rigging my sig and getting me banned by World
65517:11 <BillDoor> it's all the internal rage and cancer
65617:11 <BillDoor> it does things to him
65717:11 <Luckylee> I blame NA Solo Que
65817:11 <Luckylee> It does.
65917:11 <Luckylee> It's not my fault
66017:11 <Luckylee> I'm not sorry
66117:11 <Nae`cloud> Lucky 
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66317:11 <howl> I've been wondering, was Hereacles a Mary Sue of greek mythology?
66417:11 <Luckylee> yo, Nae.
66517:11 <Nae`cloud> Are you trolling again 
66617:11 <Luckylee> I mean, yo Highest Indian Authority.
66717:11 <Luckylee> No.
66817:11 <Luckylee> Not at all.
66917:12 <Nae`cloud> :|
67017:12 <Luckylee> :D
67117:12 <Elara> not really howl, he's no more OP than a bunch of the other demigods and heroes :P
67217:13 <howl> Hmm
67317:14 <howl> I've also been imagining cavemen playing a D&D equivalent with carved bones around a campfire.
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67517:15 <howl> "You're on hunt, and you meet bear. He angry. Throw bone for initiative" etc.
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68017:16 <Quanfinigon> "I want cast magic missile"
68117:18 <Elara> you use stupid made up words. bear swipe your head off. you dead
68217:18 <panth> Elara: I started a Let's Read Twig thread
68317:18 <panth> And blamed you
68417:18 <panth> ;D
68517:18 <howl> The caveman equivalent of magic missile is "big rock". It does 1b4 points of damage per rock thrown.
68617:18 <Elara> so rude :(
68717:18 <howl> Panth - link?
68817:18 <panth> Well you WERE a driving force you can't deny
68917:19 <panth> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/lets-read-twig-no-spoilers-please.22898/
69017:19 <howl> ta
69117:19 <panth> Though I've probably made a whole bunch of wrong assumptions/ missed obvious clues
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69617:22 <Elara> you mentioned Frankenstein. you picked up Wollstone as a name worth noting, and you didn't make the link?
69717:22 <Olivebirdy>  
69817:22 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> Olivebirdy: 
69917:22 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
70017:22 <Olivebirdy> Sure, eventually.
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70217:23 <panth> ...oh. OH.
70317:23 <panth> HA.
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70817:24 <panth> See, I told you I'm sure I missed obvious clues!
70917:24 <howl> If you share them like that Olive people are going to stop proposing to you in PM.
71017:24 <Elara> that was asked in chan howl, 's ok :P
71117:24 <Olivebirdy> Why is Wollstone important?
71217:24 <Olivebirdy> ^Elara
71317:25 <panth> Mary Wollstonecraft, writer of the Frankenstein novel
71417:25 <panth> >_>
71517:25 <howl> I missed it >_<
71617:25 <Elara> Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley wrote Frankenstein
71717:25 <Bruticus> Bit of a mouthful
71817:25 <panth> Also 'bow WOULD start the thing by killing cats xD
71917:25 <howl> lol
72017:26 <panth> Decided not to mention that but still
72117:26 <tubes> Luminifera: you'll have to convert
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72317:26 <tubes> Olivebirdy: presumably in twig-verse, frankenstein wasn't a work of fiction, but an instruction manual
72417:26 <howl> I don't know /my/ maiden name, let alone Mary Shellys.
72517:27 <Elara> ...you have a maiden name, howl? :P
72617:27 <tubes> uh
72717:27 <tubes> how would you not know your maiden name?
72817:27 <tubes> were you hit in the head or something?
72917:27 <howl> I suppose I meant my mum's maiden name >_>
73017:28 <Elara> that's a bit different. also only requires knowing your grandparents' name
73117:28 <Olivebirdy> No, I mean, Frankenstine was writter by Mary Shelley.
73217:28 <Olivebirdy> Was Wollstone her penname?
73317:28 <Olivebirdy> Ohhh
73417:29 <tubes> wllstonecraft was her maiden name
73517:29 <Elara> not even tubes, it was her mother's surname
73617:29 <Olivebirdy> The book was presumably called Wollstone's Crafts.
73717:29 <Elara> Mary Shelley seems to have used it as a middle name, her birth name was Godwin
73817:29 <tubes> well her mother was semi-famous
73917:30 <tubes> as a philosopher type or whatever
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74517:30 <tubes> speak of the devil
74617:30 <Elara> hey Wilbur
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74817:30 <Elara> panth has finally started reading Twig, and doing it in public XD
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75017:32 <Elara> o/ Lacks
75117:32 <howl> I'll look later so nobody can figure out what my sv username is.
75217:32 <Lacks> G'day Elara.  How's it goin'?
75317:32 <Elara> I had a job interview this mornin'. went ok I think, hear in a couple of days
75417:33 <Elara> other than that nm
75517:33 <Lacks> Fun times.
75617:33 <Elara> how bout you?
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76117:34 <Bruticus> So I finally picked Cenotaph back up
76217:34 <howl> Elara, are you in London?
76317:34 <Elara> howl no, why?
76417:34 <howl> I assumed you were since you were getting oxbridge applicants.
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76617:35 <howl> I was just wondering what the software employment landscape looked like in non-Leeds cities.
76717:35 <Elara> ahaha no, I went to London to interview people who want to go to Oxbridge
76817:35 <Lacks> Not too much right now, I'd say.  Physio is picking up, and my back is seeing some improvement, so I'm happy.  But it's exhausting and often really painful.
76917:35 <Lacks> So I got basically zero energy.
77017:35 <Lacks> Kind of just working on physio and sleeping, this last week or so.
77117:36 <Elara> um, good in Oxford so far? not great in Birmingham. good in Cambridge, I hear, seems to be pretty good in Bristol
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77317:39 <Elara> shitloads of stuff in London, but good luck getting paid enough you can afford to live there :P
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78417:47 <Luminifera> tubes ?
78517:49 <tubes> wat
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78717:52 <Luminifera> convert.. ???
78817:53 <Olivebirdy> He means to Judaism.
78917:53 <Luminifera> why????
79017:54 <Luminifera> I'm agnosticn
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79217:56 <Olivebirdy> In other words, not jewish.
79317:56 <Luminifera> ah yeah that too.
79417:56 <howl> I had an ex-Albanian coworker who tried to convert to Mormonism for his girlfriend.
79517:57 <Luminifera> why would i want to be?
79617:57 <Luminifera> no offense.
79717:57 <tubes> to marry Olivebirdy ?
79817:57 <tubes> you did propose to him earlier
79917:57 <Luminifera> I did???
80017:58 — Olivebirdy mimics Dory: "I have short-term memory loss."
80117:59 <Luminifera> :(
80217:59 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> Olivebirdy: 
80317:59 <Olivebirdy> <Luminifera> do you want to get married?
80418:00 <Luminifera> but
80518:00 <•Wildbow> Did Olive say yses?
80618:00 <•Wildbow> *yes?
80718:00 <Luminifera> I didn't ask you to marry me, I just asked if he wanted to marry someone
80818:00 <Nae`cloud> Why can't Olivebirdy convert instead 
80918:00 <Luminifera> convert to agnosticism? xD
81018:01 <Nae`cloud> Yeah 
81118:01 <Olivebirdy> I said 'Sure'.
81218:01 <Nae`cloud> Just stop believing 
81318:01 <Nae`cloud> Simples 
81418:01 <Olivebirdy> I'm an athiest.
81518:01 <Luminifera> ah
81618:01 <Lacks> Know what game I liked?  Legend of Mana.  One of my favorite PS1 games.
81718:01 <Luminifera> then we're peachy!!!
81818:02 <Olivebirdy> My parents would be somewhat annoyed.
81918:02 <howl> Reading about Fanny Imlay, sad story :/
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82418:03 <Luminifera> my parents too :)
82518:03 <Luminifera> hahaa
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82718:05 <Olivebirdy> ;)
82818:07 <Nae`cloud> Lumi/olive otp 
82918:07 <Shem_Phone> who's gonna be the bridesmaid? 
83018:07 <Shem_Phone> or are they bridesmaids, plural
83118:07 <howl> "whilst I lend fresh blushes to the rose, I sharpen the thorns that will wound the breast I would fain guard—I dread to unfold her mind, lest it should render her unfit for the world she is to inhabit—Hapless woman! what a fate is thine!" - Mary Wollstonecraft.
83218:07 <howl> ~"If I teach her to actually think, she'll be sad at how screwed she is."
83318:08 <howl> Can I be a bridesmaid?
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83818:09 <Shem_Phone> Did she really just choke a woman with her own arm? 
83918:09 <OliveB> WHo?
84018:10 <Shem_Phone> Twig spoilers! 
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84518:12 <Shem_Phone> Wildbow: if you aren't planning to publish Pact, why is there no PDF of it? :/
84618:12 <Luminifera> howl
84718:12 <Luminifera> yes
84818:13 <•Wildbow> In part I'm just wanting to forget Pact exists.
84918:13 <•Wildbow> It's not -bad- but it's not work I'm terribly proud of
85018:14 <Shem_Phone> noooo but it's so great so far
85118:14 <Shem_Phone> (arc 5)
85218:15 <soulpelt|> good lord Telltale games is doing a fucking Minecraft game. 
85318:16 <Shem_Phone> they've announced it a year ago, didn't they? 
85418:16 <Shem_Phone> It can't be that bad, it's a telltale game
85518:17 — soulpelt| laughs and points to The Walking Dead game
85618:17 <howl> It's going to be a minecraft themed adventure game, right?
85718:17 <Shem_Phone> but my standards for games are pretty low. And Telltale do have a tendency to repeat mistakes
85818:18 <•Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/f3YBhak
85918:19 <OliveB> Shem, feel like doing a Let's Read?
86018:20 <Shem_Phone> If only I had the writing skills for it, or the idea to start or 5 arcs ago
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86218:20 <Shem_Phone> I kind of suck at giving interesting feedback
86318:22 <Bruticus> The Walking Dead is pretty damn good
86418:22 <Bruticus> The game, at least
86518:22 <•Wildbow> @ Spelt - I don't take issue with the walking dead game.
86618:22 <Shem_Phone> I liked it too
86718:23 <•Wildbow> I think it's limited in options, and I don't like the setting, but it's not a horrible thing
86818:23 <•Wildbow> Execution is decent enough for what it is
86918:23 <soulpelt|> more of the options never seem to matter
87018:23 <Shem_Phone> Oh. I wanted to say: Avis is a fine name for a birdkeeper.
87118:24 <Shem_Phone> Also, does The Duke have a name too, or does he only have a title? 
87218:24 <Luminifera> oh rly :P
87318:24 <Luminifera> avis
87418:24 <Luminifera> what was her last name again?
87518:25 <Shem_Phone> something like Mendelbach
87618:25 <Shem_Phone> or Leidenbrot
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87818:26 <Bruticus> Though TFTB is my favourite Telltale work
87918:27 <•Wildbow> Tales from the...?
88018:27 <Shem_Phone> "Avis Pardoe"
88118:27 <Shem_Phone> I was close
88218:27 <Shem_Phone> Tales from the Borderlands.
88318:28 <Shem_Phone> Probably my favorite as well, even though I don't like the Borderlands games
88418:28 <Bruticus> I find the writing and in game options so damn funny
88518:29 <Luminifera> pardoe sounds like bird stuff too
88618:30 <Shem_Phone> Pardoe sounds weird. hardly avian
88718:30 <Shem_Phone> should be Avis Aglierra
88818:30 <Luminifera> http://41.media.tumblr.com/3abcf21e13a6f8366d8252fa8673c22e/tumblr_njbp4sbyep1un3k3to1_540.png
88918:30 <Luminifera> you gotta
89018:31 <Shem_Phone> *You Gotta
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89518:37 <•Wildbow> It would be weird if she just had a bird first and last name
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89718:42 <Bruticus> Jesus Christ I can't wait for breakfast
89818:42 <Lacks> It's almost 2pm...
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90018:42 <Bruticus> I know
90118:42 <Lacks> I think the time for breakfast is passed.
90218:43 <Lacks> past
90318:43 <VereorNox> Ohai Wildbo!
90418:43 <Bruticus> But that's what happens when you get up at 11:15 for a 12 lecture
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90618:43 <Bruticus> And there's a place in town that serves all day breakfast
90718:43 — Luminifera salutes the waldo
90818:43 <Lacks> Well fair enough then.
90918:43 <Luminifera> my mom still calls you Aldo
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91118:43 <Bruticus> Eggs Benedict is waiting for me
91218:43 <Lacks> On another note, everyone talks about the cannons in the 1812 Overture, but nobody ever really mentions the church bells.  I wonder why?
91318:44 <Teruzi> the cannons are way more interesting?
91418:44 <Teruzi> I mean, realtalk
91518:44 <Teruzi> using church bells is hard, but doable
91618:44 <tubes> ^
91718:44 <Teruzi> using cannons means you went out of your way to get them
91818:44 <tubes> church bells super doable
91918:44 <tubes> since you know, churches use them all the time
92018:44 <Teruzi> and incorporated them into the song
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92218:44 <Lacks> The cannons are cool, to be sure, but the bells add a lot more to the piece, I think.
92318:44 <Teruzi> and you did it properly! 
92418:45 <tubes> think about back in the day with those cannons
92518:45 <tubes> he had to find them
92618:45 <tubes> and roll them into the concert hall
92718:45 <tubes> he had artillerymen in his orchestra
92818:45 <Lacks> Plus, it's not easy to use church bells like that.  There was a whole art to it, that was nearly lost in the Russian Revolution.
92918:46 <Shem_Phone> it's really hard to differentiate between cannons and fannons, sometimes
93018:46 <Lacks> Tchaikovsky wrote the piece as a victory anthem for something-or-other, also, so getting cannons for it wouldn't have been *that* hard.
93118:47 <VereorNox> Hi Lacks!
93218:47 <Lacks> G'day Vern.
93318:47 <Lacks> How's it goin'?
93418:47 <VereorNox> Slowly
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93618:47 <Lacks> Still having eye problems?
93718:48 <VereorNox> Nah, but I'm mute for a while
93818:48 <VereorNox> My throat hurts horribly
93918:48 <Teruzi> that's ... the opposite of a problem
94018:48 <Lacks> You just can't catch a break, huh?
94118:48 <Teruzi> that's an improvement 
94218:48 <VereorNox> All noises I make are mostly pitiful whines
94318:48 <Teruzi> (not that anyone can tell the difference)
94418:48 <Teruzi> aw, that was mean
94518:48 <Teruzi> I'm sorry Vern
94618:49 <Teruzi> I hope you get better
94718:49 <Teruzi> :<
94818:49 <Luminifera> Vern :(
94918:49 <Lacks> But seriously Vern, what do you do to get all these infections or whatever?
95018:51 <VereorNox> Eh, my brother had something before he left for Italy
95118:52 <Teruzi> man, that's some luck
95218:52 <Teruzi> being sick on the school trip 
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95818:57 <howl> In Dwarf Fortress, is it cheating to send a suicide squad of dedicated miners out, to dig themselves to death building your city and infrastrucutre, then send out another party of the actual citizens to reclaim the ruins?
95918:57 <howl> Because to me, it just seems like sensible planning.
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96119:02 <Teruzi> no man
96219:02 <Teruzi> it sounds dworfy 
96319:05 <•Clarvel> ^
96419:05 <•Clarvel> proper dorf
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97419:43 <•Clarvel> got quiet
97519:43 — VereorNox will never forget the adventures of Clarvel dorf
97619:44 <•Clarvel> ?
97719:44 <•Clarvel> clarv tried DF once
97819:45 <•Clarvel> took an nour to start
97919:45 <VereorNox> i made a fort with a bunch of people from chat 
98019:45 <•Clarvel> at least, I think I started
98119:45 <VereorNox> Clarvel dorf got hung by a chain, thrown off a tower 
98219:45 <VereorNox> and lost his legs while falling down
98319:45 <•Clarvel> D:
98419:45 <Elara> soooo....my rent was paid. well, a slightly wrong amount was paid
98519:45 <•Clarvel> DD:
98619:45 <Elara> I cannot find what bank account it was paid *from*
98719:45 <•Clarvel> above or below
98819:45 <Elara> £20 below
98919:46 <•Clarvel> how many banks do you have?
99019:46 <Elara> so the amount it's short is no biggie
99119:46 <Elara> 3 accounts
99219:46 <Elara> have checked all of them
99319:46 <•Clarvel> the statements may not have updated?
99419:46 <•Clarvel> can you wait a day?
99519:46 <•Clarvel> contact your local branch?
99619:46 <Teruzi> ....
99719:46 <Teruzi> who paid it?
99819:46 <Teruzi> AND WHY
99919:46 <Teruzi> Elara, you're either in a romantic comedy
100019:46 <Teruzi> a drama
100119:46 <Teruzi> or a horror movie
100219:46 <•Nae> check timestamp on latest transaction in all three accounts
100319:47 <•Clarvel> or JENTHULHU's stomach
100419:47 <Elara> well this is the thing lads, it shoulda been paid on the 1st
100519:47 <•Clarvel> a tad late then
100619:47 <Elara> so yeah I have records after that for all the accounts
100719:47 <•Nae> also isn't there a confirmation message you get on every successful transaction? 
100819:47 <•Nae> via email or text
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101019:54 <Elara> Nae nope. think I could set it up for sending people money, but not for direct debits or standing orders
101119:54 <•Nae> I get confirmation for literally everything
101219:54 <•Nae> :|
101319:55 <•Nae> ATM, debit 
101419:55 <Elara> that would drive me bonkers
101519:55 <•Nae> I find it comforting
101620:01 <Elara> about the only possibility left is that I set it up on my partner's personal account, but how the hell would I have logged in as her? :S
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102320:09 <•Clarvel> hey lank
102420:10 <lankhmar> hiya
102520:10 <lankhmar> how're you doing?
102620:10 <•Clarvel> inda tired
102720:11 <lankhmar> heh I know the feeling
102820:11 <•Clarvel> busy week this week
102920:11 <•Clarvel> better than yesterday, was falling asleep in class
103020:12 <lankhmar> heheh students
103120:12 <•Clarvel> last semester
103220:12 <Elara> feckin studos
103320:12 <•Clarvel> studos?
103420:12 <lankhmar> Last week I was at work from 9-7 every day, and that's not including the day I started at 6 because I forgot I had 2 hours of meetings in the afternoon
103520:13 <lankhmar> And experimental timepoints can only be shifted 2 ways XD
103620:13 <Elara> students = studos :P
103720:13 <•Clarvel> ah
103820:13 <•Clarvel> clarv has 2 midterms monday
103920:13 <•Clarvel> ;_;
104020:14 <lankhmar> Well the student life is variable
104120:14 <lankhmar> yea was going to say, varies from little to AHAHA NO TIME, NO TIME, AAAHHH
104220:14 <Teruzi> persevere Clarv
104320:14 <Teruzi> I got exams this week as well
104420:14 <Elara> I once knew a particularly foulmouthed Welsh infantry sergeant (but I repeat myself) who made "studo" sound like more of a swearword than cunt or fuck
104520:14 <Teruzi> not particularly scared tho
104620:14 <•Nae> what does studo even mean
104720:15 <Elara> oh scroll up laddy :P
104820:15 <•Nae> oh
104920:15 <•Nae> derp
105020:15 <•Nae> so he was basically Filch from harry potter
105120:15 <•Nae> XD
105220:15 <lankhmar> well no because filch was in a *PG* story
105320:16 <lankhmar> XD
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105520:16 <•Nae> it's only PG in your mind lank
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105720:16 <•Nae> ;)
105820:16 <Teruzi> that sounded filthy
105920:16 <Teruzi> o_o
106020:16 <lankhmar> well that *does* put a new spin on the "chains in his office" bit hahahaha
106120:17 <•Nae> Teruzi bby it was meant to be
106220:17 <Elara> Filch is welsh?
106320:17 — •Nae wiggles his eyes at Teruzi
106420:17 <Teruzi> oh my
106520:17 — JENTHULHU waggles her tentacles around the room
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106720:23 <Olivebirdy> Lankmar; Wow, it does. And the fact that he complained about not being able to whip students...
106820:25 <howl> And why did they even have a cleaner when the place was full of house elves.
106920:26 <Teruzi> ....
107020:26 <Teruzi> man everything got a lot creepier 
107120:26 <Elara> he's probably like wossname, Hagrid. I get the sense Hogwarts has a thing for waifs and strays :P
107220:27 <Olivebirdy> Oh god, howl.
107320:27 <Olivebirdy> wossname! <3
107420:27 <howl> Wossname?
107520:28 <howl> Oh wossname.
107620:30 <tubes> Elara: have you seen the kay and peele skit
107720:30 <Elara> no
107820:31 <tubes> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=399_1357408167&comments=1
107920:31 <tubes> got dmca'd off youtube i think
108020:31 <tubes> but it's p gr9
108120:31 <tubes> "Last week I confiscated a wand with a silencer on it. WHY? I ask again, WHY?"
108220:33 <howl> So Filch, a squib, is responsible for keeping the entire castle clean. A job which he knows is superfluous thanks to the house elves everywhere. Every room he sweeps, every suit of armour he polishes, he knows could have been done in the snap of a house elf's fingers. At the same time he has to watch rich, entitled brats running around, casually displaying power he can see but can never grasp, becoming nothing but a joke to them. At the 
108320:33 <howl> same time, because he has so few options as a squib, he has to keep working at it. He has to be grateful for it. Whoever hired Filch is a complete sadist.
108420:34 <tubes> he doesn't clean the castle, does he?
108520:34 <tubes> i always figured he was like, hall monitor basically
108620:34 <tubes> he mostly appears to complain about STUDENTS OUT AFTER CURFEW
108720:34 <howl> I assume so, he was caretaker.
108820:35 <tubes> i really doubt he does much in the way of manual cleaning
108920:35 <Teruzi> actually
109020:35 <Bruticus> There needs to be a story about a Squib who uses their ability to see magical occurrences but uses modern technology such as firearms
109120:35 <Teruzi> Filch AT LEAST is payed 
109220:36 <Teruzi> I'm not sure if the elfs receive compensation for being
109320:36 <Teruzi> uh
109420:36 <Teruzi> slaves
109520:36 <Bruticus> They'd hunt trolls or something
109620:37 <howl> The house elves are even-more-domesticated Brownies aren't they?
109720:38 <howl> Brownies traditionally felt insulted and left if you tried to pay them.
109820:38 <cukier> Brownies are alive? :0 I ate so many of them!
109920:39 <Megafire> You monster.
110020:39 <cukier> :(
110120:39 <howl> D: the brownimity
110220:40 <Luminifera> hello
110320:40 <Luminifera> my mom is making a cake
110420:40 <Luminifera> it's nice
110520:40 <Megafire> What kind of cake?
110620:40 <cukier> Hello.
110720:40 <Luminifera> ah, not brownies.
110820:40 <Elara> brownies would play tricks on you if you didn't pay up
110920:40 <Luminifera> a banana cake. made with bananas. and orange juice. and oatmeal and stuff
111020:40 <Luminifera> hello cuki!
111120:40 <Megafire> Ew, bananas.
111220:41 <cukier> Cake with orange juice?
111320:41 <Elara> ooh banana cake :)
111420:41 <Bruticus> Banana bread though
111520:41 <Bruticus> Hot banana bread with butter
111620:41 <howl> banana cake? :&
111720:41 <Elara> banana cake is better
111820:41 <Luminifera> Orange juice instead of water/milk
111920:41 <Elara> orange juice is an interesting addition tho
112020:41 <Bruticus> You tell that to my face, Elara
112120:42 <cukier> I want to know how it tastes.
112220:42 <Bruticus> And you tell that to my gran's face
112320:42 — Elara looks Bruti in the face "banana cake is better than banana bread"
112420:43 <Luminifera> in a few, I'll tell you, cuki c:
112520:43 — Bruticus implodes in on himself in a space-time rift and vanishes
112620:43 <howl> Carrot cake > Bananana cake
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112820:44 — cukier is waiting patiently for Lumi's description.
112920:45 <Megafire> Look, look, look!
113020:45 <Megafire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AerA9uNw98
113120:45 <Megafire> It's my choir singing!
113220:45 <cukier> Are you in the video Mega?
113320:46 <Megafire> I am.
113420:46 <howl> btw, researched it, Filch totally had to manually clean. Maybe he was being punshed for something.
113520:46 <cukier> Which person are you?
113620:46 <Megafire> Front row, dude on the right.
113720:46 <Megafire> The guy wearing glasses.
113820:48 <cukier> :)
113920:48 <cukier> Nice.
114020:49 <•Nae> what are you singing
114120:49 — •Nae wants to know before clicking
114220:49 <•Nae> :p
114320:49 <Megafire> Ordinary Love from U2.
114420:50 <JENTHULHU> you should sing the ballad of irving
114520:51 <howl> ._.
114620:51 <JENTHULHU> ?
114720:52 <Luminifera> the cake is in the oven, cuki
114820:52 <Luminifera> it's not ready yet
114920:52 <Teruzi> U2 tho
115020:52 <Teruzi> eh
115120:52 <cukier> But, but... I want a cake.
115220:52 <cukier> :(
115320:53 <Elara> you're such a skinny nerd Mega <3
115420:53 — JENTHULHU offers cake....
115520:53 <Megafire> I really am.
115620:53 <Megafire> I am the skiniest nerd.
115720:53 <Teruzi> which one is Mega?
115820:53 <Megafire> Front row dude with glasses.
115920:53 — howl foolishly takes slice of cake
116020:53 <JENTHULHU> *howl becomes cukier*
116120:54 <Teruzi> hmm
116220:54 <Teruzi> pretty thin!
116320:54 <•Nae> Teruzi
116420:54 — howl replaces cake slice
116520:54 <•Nae> perform your duties
116620:54 <Teruzi> Nae
116720:54 — cukier eaths cake.
116820:54 <Teruzi> yes
116920:54 <cukier> eats*
117020:54 <cukier> Om nom nom.
117120:54 <cukier> Thank you!
117220:54 <Megafire> I weigh about 63 kg and I'm 1.88 meters tall.
117320:54 <Megafire> So, yeah.
117420:54 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6okxuiiHx2w
117520:54 — cukier hugs JENTHULHU.
117620:54 <Teruzi> also Mega, if I saw you in bar I would hit on you
117720:54 <Teruzi> :3
117820:54 <•Nae> <3 Teruzi 
117920:54 <Megafire> What, really?
118020:55 <Teruzi> yeah, sure
118120:55 <Teruzi> why not
118220:55 <JENTHULHU> *cukier becomes a mermaid*
118320:55 <•Nae> this is good
118420:55 <Teruzi> people with standards are boring
118520:55 <cukier> :0
118620:55 <Megafire> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIMVnKjcaCg
118720:55 <Teruzi> yeah Nae, it's a good video too
118820:55 <cukier> Where are my legs?
118920:55 <Megafire> Oh boo.
119020:55 <Teruzi> :D
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119220:55 <•Nae> you know what this server needs
119320:55 <•Nae> a #music
119420:55 <•Nae> that's what
119520:55 — •Nae used to run one
119620:55 <JENTHULHU> cukier: you have a fish tail instead
119720:55 <cukier> I liked my legs. :(
119820:55 <•Nae> but nobody had any interest :(
119920:56 <JENTHULHU> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HVsgAWdQX8
120020:56 <Teruzi> pfft, we can talk music here
120120:56 <Teruzi> I mean, most people listen to odd music anyways
120220:56 <Teruzi> :D
120320:56 <Teruzi> (also Mega, I was joking, you're cute enough)
120420:56 <Teruzi> (and I do have standards, gosh)
120520:56 <Megafire> (Could've fooled me.)
120620:57 <•Nae> lol
120720:57 <Megafire> And now I'm not sure whether I'm insulting you or me.
120820:57 <Teruzi> yes
120920:57 <Teruzi> both
121020:57 <Megafire> Anyway, thank you.
121120:57 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6BwvDcANg
121220:57 <Teruzi> Nae
121320:57 <Teruzi> more
121420:57 <Teruzi> alt J is a hit or miss
121520:57 <Teruzi> kinda deal
121620:57 <•Nae> nice
121720:58 <•Nae> I like the video too
121820:58 — cukier flaps his tail.
121920:58 <JENTHULHU> her
122020:58 <JENTHULHU> you're a mermaid
122120:58 <Teruzi> woo
122220:58 <JENTHULHU> not a merman
122320:58 <cukier> :D
122420:58 <cukier> Magi
122520:58 — cukier splashes
122620:58 <cukier> Karp
122720:58 <Teruzi> oh yeah, I saw the Sans fight on youtube 
122820:58 <Teruzi> that shit is insane
122920:58 <Teruzi> o_o
123020:59 <•Nae> wut
123120:59 <howl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhIc8IIXuIY
123220:59 <cukier> Do I have fabulous hair Jen?
123320:59 <cukier> And everything?
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123820:59 <JENTHULHU> maybe
123920:59 — cukier looks at his boobs.
124020:59 <cukier> her*
124121:00 <howl> The famous shells are actually anatomical. You're not a mammal.
124221:00 <Luminifera> mega
124321:00 <Teruzi> something from Undertale, Nae
124421:00 <Luminifera> you look like a nerd
124521:00 <Luminifera> xD
124621:00 <Teruzi> want more?
124721:00 <Megafire> Well, Lumi, I am a nerd.
124821:01 <Megafire> So that's just efficient social signalling.
124921:01 <•Nae> moar
125021:01 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51V1VMkuyx0
125121:01 <•Nae> moar
125221:01 — •Nae demands more
125321:01 <Teruzi> that one is relatively popular
125421:01 <Teruzi> you've heard it before, I'm sure
125521:01 <Teruzi> but hey
125621:01 <Teruzi> it's nice
125721:01 <•Nae> oh I've heard it
125821:01 <•Nae> yes
125921:01 <cukier> Howl: You're such moodkiller.
126021:01 <•Nae> still good
126121:01 <•Nae> man I can't remember where I've heard it though
126221:01 <•Nae> some video game/
126321:02 <Teruzi> probably the radio, or a game
126421:02 <Teruzi> yeah
126521:02 <howl> Actually wearing seashells of cretures you know personally to be sentient and capable of playing music with you would be like wearing a bra made of human skulls.
126621:02 <cukier> SO METAL
126721:02 <Teruzi> doable 
126821:02 <Teruzi> ALSO PRETTY METAL
126921:02 <Teruzi> yes
127021:03 <cukier> I need some human skulls bra.
127121:03 <cukier> I can wear it over seashells.
127221:03 <tubes> "Last year one in five students at Clothor's was pregnant with a DEMON BABY" "Now lets not exaggerate, the mothers, they're good kids, but, uh, yes, the babies were indeed evil demon babies"
127321:04 <howl> good luck not getting killed on sight by sailors. Skull bras aren't a good omen for sailors.
127421:04 <Teruzi> what is a good omen for sailors? 
127521:04 <Teruzi> fuckers can't walk 'cause it's a bad omen
127621:04 <Teruzi> the barely breathe 
127721:05 <cukier> I heard women weren't allowed on ships because bad omen.
127821:05 <cukier> So normal bras are bad for them too.
127921:05 <cukier> Skulls or no skulls.
128021:06 <Megafire> Pfft, mermaids drew sailors to the deep anyway.
128121:06 <Megafire> So you being a mermaid is a bad omen.
128221:06 <howl> black cats, whistling, and kobolds are considered lucky by sailors.
128321:06 <cukier> Yeah. So two skulls one way or another wouldn't make a difference.
128421:06 <howl> If you were a kobold, you'd be fine.
128521:06 <Elara> black cats *are* lucky
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128721:08 <Luminifera> I bet I look incredibly silly with my hair like this
128821:08 <Elara> hair like what Lumi?
128921:09 <Teruzi> Nae!
129021:09 <Teruzi> you've heard Metronomy?
129121:10 <cukier> Can kobolds swim and have fabulous hair? I don't think so.
129221:10 <•Nae> no...
129321:10 <cukier> I want to be a mermaid.
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129521:10 <Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PnOG67flRA
129621:10 <Teruzi> bap
129721:10 <Luminifera> have a nice background of kitchen cupboards https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GmAVstld/irccloudcapture-831094335.jpg
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130921:10 <Luminifera> gosh I look so tired.
131021:10 <Luminifera> I feel tired
131121:10 <Elara> you're so cute
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131321:10 <Luminifera> :P
131421:10 <cukier> You are cute.
131521:11 <Teruzi> you look 12
131621:11 <Teruzi> it's kinda shocking 
131721:11 <Luminifera> :P
131821:11 <Luminifera> is it really
131921:11 <Teruzi> how young you seem?
132021:11 <Elara> Tuzi rude
132121:11 <Teruzi> yes
132221:11 <Teruzi> yes it is
132321:11 <•Nae> not bad Teruzi 
132421:11 <Teruzi> pfft, it's not a bad thing
132521:11 <Teruzi> I'm telling her she looks young
132621:11 <Teruzi> and she does
132721:11 <•Nae> I could get used to this
132821:11 <Luminifera> I am actually 12
132921:11 •Teruzi was halfopped (+h) by ChanServ
133021:11 <Luminifera> 12 people
133121:11 <•Teruzi> ha ha
133221:11 <•Teruzi> a coven
133321:11 <Luminifera> we present ourselves as one
133421:11 <•Teruzi> well Nae, I'm just linking you shit from my playlist
133521:12 <•Nae> :D
133621:12 <•Nae> good good
133721:12 <•Nae> I don't listen to new music much
133821:12 <•Nae> make this a daily routine Teruzi. Feed meeee
133921:12 <•Teruzi> hmmm
134021:12 <•Teruzi> could do like
134121:12 <•Teruzi> four songs a day, I guess
134221:12 <•Teruzi> sure
134321:13 <•Nae> I also use this btw
134421:13 <•Nae> noonpacific.com
134521:13 <•Nae> emails me a list of songs
134621:13 <•Nae> but that's weekly
134721:13 <•Teruzi> I click stuff
134821:14 <•Teruzi> and my cousin listens to a lot of music
134921:14 <•Teruzi> so I hear a lot of new shit
135021:14 <•Nae> music discovery is my main problem yeah
135121:14 <•Nae> don't know many people irl who are into new stuff
135221:14 <•Nae> or any really
135321:15 <Luminifera> me looking weird. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GpI03uCy/irccloudcapture-458154488.jpg
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136521:15 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY
136621:15 <•Nae> you really do look weird in that one
136721:15 <•Teruzi> well, I can help some
136821:15 <•Nae> ha
136921:15 <•Nae> Nightcall
137021:15 <•Nae> I love this
137121:15 <•Nae> Drive <3
137221:16 <•Teruzi> it was a good movie
137321:16 <•Teruzi> but the soundtrack was literally 100% of the reason I like it as much as I do
137421:16 <howl> My music discovery took a hit when John Peel died, and then another when I stopped watching TV and stopped watching Joolz
137521:16 <•Nae> I obsessed over this song for months 
137621:16 <Luminifera> we are actually 12 very smol people with very differentiated bodies that look like a skinny female human's body parts.
137721:17 <Megafire> Huh.
137821:17 <Elara> that's pretty impressive
137921:17 <Luminifera> the "me" that speaks to you is mostly just the fingers part.
138021:17 <•Teruzi> good coordination 
138121:17 <Elara> coordination like that is quite tricky
138221:17 <Luminifera> the "me" of the selfies is the face.
138321:17 <howl> Isn't that an Adventure Time plot?
138421:17 <•Nae> ~~They're talking about you boy...but you're still the same~
138521:17 <Megafire> That's some impressive synchronised evolution, too.
138621:17 <Luminifera> there's also the "me" of the butt which we are very ashamed of. our condolences
138721:17 <•Teruzi> well, if you've listened to that one already
138821:17 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa7lkYLJfiw
138921:17 <•Teruzi> this one you probably haven't
139021:17 VereorNox → vernZzZz
139121:18 <Luminifera> thank you! we are a very cohesive society.
139221:18 <howl> You should had the keyboard over to butinifera for a bit, give her a voice.
139321:19 <howl> I can't imagine how stifled I'd feel if I weren't allowed to ever speak.
139421:19 <•Nae> nice nice
139521:19 <Luminifera> she can't type.
139621:19 <Luminifera> :| it's a butt.
139721:19 <•Teruzi> apparently that dude does everything in the song
139821:19 <•Teruzi> from voice to instruments
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140021:19 <Elara> you could interpret for her or something Lumifingers
140121:20 <Megafire> And all of your bodyparts are female?
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140321:21 <howl> I hadn't listened to Kavinksy before.
140421:22 <•Teruzi> it's pretty sweet
140521:22 <•Teruzi> if you liked that song, you'll like the rest of his work
140621:23 <cukier> Guys. I just want to brag to you. My happiness level is a lot above average. I don't feel excited, but... content? I think that's the word. I would like to feel like this all the time.
140721:24 <•Teruzi> is it because of drugs Sugar?
140821:25 <cukier> No.
140921:25 <Megafire> What did you do, Cukier?
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141121:25 <howl> Mermaidhood agrees with cookei.
141221:25 <cukier> Unless you count one glass of wine in the middle of a day(it's night now) as drugs.
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141421:26 <cukier> I did nothing substantial. I was programming all day. And things went smoothly.
141521:26 <•Nae> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZictXwrEUI Teruzi 
141621:26 <cukier> And I made tasty... what's the name... in the morning.
141721:26 <Megafire> Nice.
141821:27 <cukier> Scrambled eggs?
141921:27 <Megafire> Probably.
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142121:28 <•Teruzi> well, I'm glad you're glad
142221:28 <Luminifera> the cake is ready!!!!
142321:28 <•Teruzi> yeah Nae, I like the whole album
142421:28 <cukier> And now I want to drive a bike while listening to the podcasts.
142521:28 <•Teruzi> I even bought it
142621:28 <•Nae> buying music in 2015
142721:28 <cukier> Have you noticed that everything sounds different at night?
142821:28 <•Nae> wow
142921:29 <•Nae> I respect you 
143021:29 <•Nae> XD
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143221:29 <•Teruzi> yyyeah, well
143321:29 <cukier> Lumi! Send me some cake!
143421:29 <•Nae> cukier: it's the ambiance 
143521:29 <•Teruzi> I do it for certain artists 
143621:29 <Luminifera> :D
143721:29 <•Nae> put on music with low volume at night
143821:29 <•Teruzi> and only if the music is available in youtube
143921:29 <•Nae> and everything's chill
144021:29 <•Nae> ~~
144121:29 <cukier> Nae: I'm buying albums mainly because they aren't on the internet. :(
144221:30 <•Nae> last time I purchased music, I was < 15yo and it was a cassette Teruzi 
144321:30 <•Nae> not even joking
144421:30 <•Nae> XD
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144621:30 <cukier> Nae: Or rather it's only on youtube and probably only about 3 songs from the album.
144721:30 <•Nae> cukier: everything is on the internet
144821:31 <•Nae> you just have to find the right place
144921:31 <Luminifera> cake https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RjdigAjP/irccloudcapture-1749061647.jpg
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146121:31 <•Nae> I'm actually a member of a super secret music tracker
146221:31 <•Teruzi> oh my
146321:31 <•Nae> but I barely download
146421:31 <Elara> ooh nice
146521:31 <•Nae> cake <3
146621:31 <howl> I don't feel particularly happy or sad.
146721:32 <cukier> Nae: I got a request for you in this case
146821:32 <Luminifera> I feel okay right now :)
146921:32 <•Nae> sure
147021:32 <howl> Argh bananana cake
147121:32 <cukier> Sara Brylewska - skąd przyszłaś
147221:32 <cukier> :D
147321:32 <howl> † get back
147421:33 <cukier> Full album please. :D
147521:33 <Luminifera> nae weren't you a child 15 years ago?
147621:33 <•Nae> lemme check
147721:33 <•Nae> yes Lumi
147821:33 <•Nae> I was
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148021:33 <Elara> not surprised you feel ok Lumi, cake is always good
148121:33 <•Nae> I went to buy an album with my dad
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148321:33 <•Nae> uhh cukier , which is the album and which is the artist
148421:34 <•Nae> <_<
148521:34 <cukier> Sara Brylewska is the artist
148621:34 <Luminifera> Sara is the artist?
148721:34 <•Nae> nvm found
148821:34 <Luminifera> I meam
148921:34 <Luminifera> Sara is a name
149021:34 <cukier> and "Skąd Przyszłaś" is the name of the album.
149121:34 <•Nae> eh albums can have weird names as well
149221:34 <cukier> \o/
149321:34 <howl> Can you find Trout Mask Replica by Captain Beefheart? I already have it, I'm just curious.
149421:35 <•Nae> I see 2014 - Hatti Vatti - Worship Nothing Bookmark Vote: by Sara Brylewska 
149521:35 <•Nae> nothing else
149621:35 <•Nae> I can fill out a request I guess
149721:35 <cukier> What is this secret tracker? And can I have an invitation?
149821:36 <•Nae> you'd have to pass an IRC interview
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150021:36 <•Nae> what.cd
150121:36 <•Nae> invites are disabled or otherwise I'd invite you
150221:36 <cukier> Mhm.
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150421:37 <•Nae> howl: found it
150521:37 <howl> I was curious just because I can't imagine anyone wanting to share it.
150621:37 <•Nae> 400+ people seeding it
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150821:37 <•Nae> https://www.dropbox.com/s/eamyplz1fg5o22w/Screenshot%202015-10-07%2002.07.23.png?dl=0
150921:38 <Luminifera> Hello Luna!
151021:38 <Luminifera> net cologne
151121:38 — Luminifera remembers that colon post
151221:38 — Luminifera starts giggling
151321:38 <Luna> Yo, what's up?
151421:38 <Luminifera> you are a teal color on irccloud.
151521:38 <howl> I used to work with a guy who claimed it was one of the best albums ever made.
151621:39 <cukier> Colon post? o.0
151721:39 <Luminifera> hahsha
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151921:40 <Luminifera> several twitter screen shots of girls talking about how they love the smell of their boyfriends' colon
152021:40 <Rhetorical> wat
152121:40 <Elara> Rhetorical!
152221:40 <•Nae> howl: a review
152321:40 <•Nae> "you should at least realise that it's very technically layered, and the songs were recorded with almost complete disregard to music theory, so it's naturally going to be inaccessible to most people"
152421:40 <Rhetorical> Elara! 
152521:40 <Elara> you're alive
152621:40 <Rhetorical> I am
152721:40 <Luminifera> Or how they love it when a cute boy passes by and you can smell his colon
152821:40 <•Nae> " It took me years and many listenings to appreciate this album. It was worth the effort."
152921:40 <•Nae> o_O
153021:40 <Luminifera> It just made me laugh so much
153121:40 <•Nae> now I'm curious
153221:40 <•Teruzi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4pzKvuEQM
153321:40 <•Teruzi> bam Nae 
153421:40 <howl> Give it an experimental listen.
153521:40 <•Teruzi> this is good
153621:41 <•Teruzi> and the video is entertaining 
153721:41 <howl> To be fair, it took my a year of gestation before I suddenly started like the mars volta, and that is real music.
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156021:50 <Elara> *shrug* something on the server, it's multiple chans
156121:50 <Elara> hey EV
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157821:51 <ErrantVagrant> Hey hey!  Not on for long, I'm afraid.  I'm still at work, but the boss called and insisted I take a break.
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158621:51 <Elara> I like your boss
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159621:51 <ErrantVagrant> Well, I'm in goddamn bloodhound mode, and she knows that I'll skip breaks if I don't.
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160221:52 <ErrantVagrant> But on the plus side, I think I've found why the numbers have been bothering me.
160321:52 <Luminifera> http://40.media.tumblr.com/ee24b82e1ba02dfeb97de769ca054b6e/tumblr_nv90z0kCp11qkvbwso1_500.png
160421:52 <howl_> If we're cast adrift on the foamy sea of infinity meet in irc.systemnet.info/#parahumans
160521:52 <Elara> what are you hunting down, Captain Bloodhound?
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160721:52 <Luminifera> big fucking deal
160821:52 <Luminifera> I made a project like that last yeqr
160921:52 <Luminifera> :/
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161121:52 <Luminifera> I was a first-year graphic design student
161221:52 <•Nae> Lumi
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161721:52 <•Nae> your dismissal of anything without understanding the nuance behind it is quite annoying
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161921:53 <Luminifera> ehhhhhhhhh
162021:53 <Luminifera> sorry.
162121:53 <Luminifera> It's just.
162221:53 <ErrantVagrant> I think that someone in another office is embezzling.
162321:53 <•Nae> the system in question creates paintings via Machine Learning
162421:53 <Skrattybones> you made an AI for a first year graphic design project? O_o
162521:53 <Luminifera> ah
162621:53 <•Nae> do you understand what that is?
162721:53 <Luminifera> No, I didn't :P
162821:53 <Elara> machine learning is pretty seriously cool
162921:53 <Luminifera> And no, I dont
163021:53 <•Nae> well then
163121:53 <•Nae> suffice to say
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163321:53 <•Nae> it is a big fucking deal
163421:53 <Luminifera> Why teach machines to do... this
163521:53 <Rhet|mobile> What is wrong with my connection right now 
163621:54 <•Nae> Rhet|mobile: netsplit
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163821:54 <Luminifera> It's your cingular net
163921:54 <Rhet|mobile> Huh? 
164021:54 <Rhet|mobile> On IRCCloud? 
164121:54 <Skrattybones> it's the server, not you, Rhet
164221:54 <Elara> you know the saying that the only way to really know something is to teach it, Lumi?
164321:54 <Rhet|mobile> Ah
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165021:54 <Luminifera> :/ 
165121:54 <ErrantVagrant> Before I take what I've found to the accountants, I want to make absolutely sure that I'm seeing what I'm seeing.
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165321:54 <Olivebirdy> Hi
165421:54 <Elara> makes sense EV
165521:54 <Luminifera> eevee what jacketed?
165621:54 <Rhet|mobile> What's up, EV? 
165721:54 <Luminifera> happened*
165821:55 <Olivebirdy> What's going on? 
165921:55 <Elara> well if you can teach it to a computer, you *really* get how it works :P
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166121:55 <howl_> At my last job I came up with a simple bayesian classifier to do sentiment analysis, it could do what three dedicated members of the admin team were doing with 90% accuracy. I presented it to the admin manager, and she did not want to take it further.
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166421:55 <•Nae> Luminifera: it's the thing that will lead us to self driving cars
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166621:55 <•Nae> actually
166721:55 <•Nae> let me correct myself
166821:55 <ErrantVagrant> I think someone in another office is embezzling.
166921:55 <Elara> nobody wants to fire most of their team howl
167021:55 <•Nae> that has already led us to self driving cars
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167221:55 <ErrantVagrant> So I'm pulling OT tonight.
167321:55 <Rhet|mobile> o_o
167421:55 <Luminifera> don't say those words in my presence... now my head won't shut up about he man feeling a little peculiar
167521:55 <Olivebirdy> Occupational Therapy? 
167621:55 <Luminifera> nae :P
167721:55 <howl_> Yeah Elara, that's why I quietly dropped it. I was only willing to offer it if it made her team's job easier.
167821:55 <Luminifera> :O *
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168021:56 <Luminifera> seriously???
168121:56 <howl_> I didn't want to get anyone sacked.
168221:56 <•Nae> and the latest article I read this week - is being used to predict crime ala Minority Report
168321:56 <Luminifera> Wow, I take it back.
168421:56 <Luminifera> I super take it back
168521:56 <•Nae> is used to identify cancer cells
168621:56 <•Nae> etc etc
168721:56 <Luminifera> I thought it was just "hey let's make random photos look like some famous painting"
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168921:56 <Luminifera> like
169021:56 <Luminifera> Why.
169121:56 <•Nae> and the simplest use case of course - optical character recognition 
169221:56 <Elara> thing is howl most places I've worked, there's always scope for stuff like that, because there's always a backlog of other work
169321:56 <Elara> but YMMV
169421:57 <Luminifera> eevee what's embezzling?
169521:57 <ErrantVagrant> Lumi:  Stealing from the company.
169621:57 <Elara> nicking money from the company
169721:57 <Skrattybones> I want that AI to turn a picture of my butt into a van Gogh :(
169821:57 <•Nae> http://googleresearch.blogspot.in/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html
169921:57 <Luminifera> !!!!!
170021:57 <•Nae> the original research post from which that meme was probably inspired 
170121:57 <ErrantVagrant> If I'm seeing things right
170221:57 <Luminifera> Skrattybones omg
170321:58 <ErrantVagrant> and I might not be, which is why I'm covering my ass
170421:58 <howl_> Can the algorithm turn me into literally van gogh?
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170921:58 <Luminifera> eevee you're a very good employee!!!! ^-^ congratulations!
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171121:58 <ErrantVagrant> But if I'm seeing things right, last month they might have gotten away with $60,000
171221:58 <Luminifera> O:
171321:58 <Elara> 60k doesn't just disappear
171421:58 <Luminifera> !!!!!!!
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171621:59 <ErrantVagrant> Exactly
171721:59 <howl_> How do you report something like that? Do you just pass it to finance and say "These look a bit odd to me, do they look odd to you?" or is it more like "This guy looks like he's embezzeling."
171821:59 <ErrantVagrant> So, yeah, I'm obsessing.
171921:59 <•Nae> you do it very very carefully 
172021:59 <ErrantVagrant> Here's how I'm going to do it.
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172222:00 <Luminifera> can you get in trouble for this? :(
172322:00 <•Nae> we don't want EV to end up in a ditch somewhere
172422:00 <•Nae> D:
172522:00 <Luminifera> ^
172622:00 <Luminifera> :(
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173222:00 <•Nae> "IT WAS ME EV, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG! I WAS STEALING THE MONEY"
173322:00 <•Nae> *SHOOT*
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173922:01 <ErrantVagrant> I'm collecting all the evidence that I can, and I'm going to call a meeting.  If I can show that the numbers have all been fudged by one person in particular, then I can say with absolute certainty that SOMETHING is up, most likely embezzling.
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174122:01 <ErrantVagrant> From there, I let them take it over.
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174322:01 <Elara> if it's numbers going squiffy from multiple people, that's either incompetence or a conspiracy :P
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174522:02 <Olivebirdy> Also, is there a time limit? 
174622:02 <Teruzi> or both
174722:02 <ErrantVagrant> If I can't show that it's all from one person, then I ask accounting to look over it all and see what they can determine, which could (in theory) lead to me getting into trouble.
174822:02 <ErrantVagrant> But probably not.
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175022:02 <ErrantVagrant> Olive:  Other than someone stealing more money a month than I make in a year?  No.
175122:02 <ErrantVagrant> And I'd like to specify, this is in another office, not my own.
175222:03 <ErrantVagrant> But I take a gander at paperwork that affects my office, which is what started bothering me.  The numbers were a little too perfect.
175322:03 <Elara> too perfect?
175422:04 <ErrantVagrant> There's always a degree of variance.
175522:04 <ErrantVagrant> I can't go into details, sorry.
175622:04 <lankhmar> I know a friend in accounting, suffice to say the stupidity of people is mindboggling
175722:04 <Elara> that's ok, I get the vague idea
175822:05 <lankhmar> I think the best is someone who bought something, wanted twice as much so they just *paid* twice as much and assumed people would work it out
175922:05 <Olivebirdy> Mhm.
176022:05 <Elara> bwahahaha
176122:05 <lankhmar> No wait, the company who tried to give a refund and then paid it into one of their own accounts
176222:06 <lankhmar> Just imagine stuff like that
176322:06 <howl_> Aw, I thought this was going to be the reveal scene.
176422:06 <ErrantVagrant> With how my company works, brief periods of intense work that needs done yesterday and then stretches of utter boredom, it's easy for things to happen.
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176622:06 <Teruzi> EV, you should totes
176722:06 <Teruzi> tell someone when you inevitably find evidence of wrong doing
176822:06 <Teruzi> otherwise you're gonna get shot or something
176922:06 <Teruzi> to keep the secret down
177022:06 <Teruzi> it happens always in movies
177122:07 <lankhmar> <_<
177222:07 <ErrantVagrant> Ha!  It won't.
177322:07 <ErrantVagrant> But my boss also knows what I'm doing.
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177522:07 <howl_> But EV is more like the Poirot of this situation.
177622:07 <howl_> Wait, how insistent was your boss that you take a break from your investigation?
177722:07 <ErrantVagrant> And the accounts etc are being logged.
177822:08 <Teruzi> yeah but
177922:08 <Teruzi> what if your -boss- is on it?
178022:08 <Elara> EV = Poirot XD
178122:08 <ErrantVagrant> She called me because she remembered that I worked through lunch.
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178322:08 <Elara> if the boss is in on it, the boss' best way forwards is to use EV's enforced break to split herself off from the trouble
178422:09 <ErrantVagrant> "Did you take any breaks?"  "I... think so?"  "For fucks sakes take a break!"
178522:09 <howl_> okay, but don't go on her boat
178622:09 <Teruzi> ^
178722:09 <Teruzi> or go talk to her in her house
178822:09 <ErrantVagrant> ....The skinniest Poirot
178922:09 <lankhmar> or accept an offer to pet the sharks
179022:09 <ErrantVagrant> B-but bitey!
179122:10 <ErrantVagrant> He's adorable!
179222:10 <Elara> you can be Hastings if you want EV?
179322:10 <Elara> just gotta find your Poirot :P
179422:10 <howl_> "Oh, that's old Flesrender. He would't hurt a fly. He's my little goose."
179522:10 <Luminifera> hehehe
179622:10 <ErrantVagrant> ...Can I be Magnum PI without the mustache?
179722:10 <Teruzi> yes
179822:10 <howl_> no
179922:11 <howl_> you may be MacGuyver
180022:11 <ErrantVagrant> ...I ACCEPT THIS
180122:11 <Luminifera> ?
180222:11 <ErrantVagrant> Now I need a stick of gum, a roll of toilet paper, and an old bicycle to solve this accounting nightmare!
180322:11 <Elara> EV = Richard Dean Anderson
180422:11 <Elara> in a few years you'll be Jack O'Neill
180522:12 <ErrantVagrant> "How did they do this?"  "....Magnets?"
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180722:12 — Rhetorical pictures EV with a mullet
180822:13 <howl_> What was going on with mullets >.> Why, The 1980s, Why!?
180922:13 <Olivebirdy> I lost a thousand shekel once. 
181022:13 <Olivebirdy> In tge canteen. 
181122:14 <Olivebirdy> Then I panicked, and found it again. 
181222:14 <Olivebirdy> :|
181322:14 <Olivebirdy> Numbers are hard. 
181422:15 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, but this is kinda comparable to losing an expensive house every year.
181522:15 <howl_> I thought that was going to be about magnets.
181622:15 <howl_> I'm now frustrated.
181722:15 <ErrantVagrant> "Damn it, I know I had that four car garage yesterday."  "Did you look under the couch?"  "YES."
181822:16 <howl_> Does anybody have an anecdote about a magnet being useful.
181922:16 <ErrantVagrant> My wit is lost on the medium of text.  I can't even milk spiders here.
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182122:17 <Olivebirdy> I have found refrigerator magnets to be useful. 
182222:18 <ErrantVagrant> Okay, I'm going to nuke my lunch a few hours too late and then get back to work.  Seeya all!
182322:18 <Olivebirdy> Bye! 
182422:18 <howl_> A while after I started playing D&D, I started always equipping my PC with a magnet, fishing hook, twine, wire etc, because they were light, and cheap, and occasionally near-magical. A while later I realised I could actually be also carrying that stuff in real life. So now I always have them with me.
182522:18 <howl_> bye EV!
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182722:18 <lankhmar> $60,000 dollars is an expensive house?
182822:18 <lankhmar> bwahaha
182922:18 — howl_ whsipers "Remember, no boats."
183022:18 <lankhmar> where I live that won't get you a flat
183122:18 <lankhmar> even a small one
183222:18 <Rhetorical> 60k a month 
183322:18 <Rhetorical> Expensive house every year 
183422:18 <lankhmar> oh
183522:19 <lankhmar> right I can't read bwahaha
183622:19 <Rhetorical> :P
183722:19 <Olivebirdy> Uh, well. 
183822:19 <Olivebirdy> I wonder if 60,000$ could get you a house here. 
183922:21 <Rhetorical> That's almost 1.5 times the median household income in the US 
184022:21 <Rhetorical> I think 
184122:21 <Olivebirdy> How many square meters is a normal house? 
184222:22 <Elara> ..who measures houses in sq m?
184322:22 <Rhetorical> 2k square feet is typical 
184422:22 <Rhetorical> Maybe 
184522:22 <Rhetorical> Here 
184622:22 <Rhetorical> I dunno 
184722:22 <Olivebirdy> Hm. 
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185422:32 <Luminifera> forget s9 00.
185522:32 <Luminifera> s9000*
185622:32 <Luminifera> http://slaughterhouse90210.tumblr.com
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185822:35 <howl_> Ah the S9. I wonder if Myrddin was ever tempted to form his group of 9 brave warrors. A Brute there'd be, and a Mover also, and a Thinker. 9 companions, one for each of the Nine.
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186322:36 <Luminifera> :D would be nice!
186422:36 <Luminifera> 6:19 PM <Olivebirdy> I wonder if 60,000$ could get you a house here. 
186522:36 <howl_> "I'll lend my Halberd to your quest." "And my arbalest." "AND MY AXE." "Who are you shorty? Do you have powers?" "... no."
186622:36 <Luminifera> Hmm. 
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186822:37 <Luminifera> two hundred and something something reais... yeah
186922:37 <Luminifera> you can buy a house
187022:37 <Luminifera> Not a very good one
187122:37 <Luminifera> But yeah
187222:38 <JENTHULHU> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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187422:39 <howl_> Also 'worrors'? Wtf, spelling brain.
187522:39 <•Teruzi> forgot tot od that again
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188222:46 <Bruticus> But seriously, banana desserts > carrot desserts
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188922:57 <cukier> Lumi, Lumi.
189022:57 <cukier> How does it taste?
189122:58 <cukier> You sent a picture, but describe taste for me.
189222:58 <Olivebirdy> Are you guys coming to the other server? 
189322:58 <•Teruzi> oi oi
189422:58 <cukier> What other server?
189522:58 <•Teruzi> easy there
189622:59 <Olivebirdy> Zip
189722:59 <Bruticus> cuk, have you never eaten banana bread/cake?
189822:59 <cukier> I did not.
189923:07 <Skrattybones> you know
190023:08 <Skrattybones> considering the lengths the cast of Persona 4 went to keeping that shit on the DL, by the end of all the spinoff games a fucking LOT of people know about it
190123:08 <•Teruzi> indeed
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191323:09 <Luminifera> It tastes... like...
191423:09 <Luminifera> banana cake...
191523:09 <Luminifera> .-.
191623:09 <Luminifera> how do you go to the other server?
191723:09 <cukier> Banana cake with orange juice?
191823:10 <Luminifera> Yes.
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192023:14 <Rhetorical> ... 
192123:14 <Rhetorical> rip
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192323:16 <Olivebirdy> I'm booored. 
192423:17 <lankhmar> well...you want something to read?
192523:17 <Olivebirdy> Sure! 
192623:17 <Olivebirdy> What have you got? 
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192823:18 <lankhmar> webcomics, some translated novels, 
192923:18 <lankhmar> general fantasy/sf book recommendations 
193023:18 <lankhmar> any genres / media types?
193123:19 <Olivebirdy> Have you read Unsounded? 
193223:19 <lankhmar> oh yesssss
193323:19 <Olivebirdy> :D
193423:19 <Olivebirdy> Werw you the person who recced it to me? 
193523:19 <lankhmar> although I dropped it for a little bit because each individual update was killing me
193623:19 <lankhmar> maybe, maybe not
193723:19 <lankhmar> no idea
193823:19 <Olivebirdy> Because if you are, thanks so much. 
193923:20 <Olivebirdy> Amazing art, dialogue! 
194023:20 <Olivebirdy> Characters are great, colors are wonderful (if a bit red at the moment) 
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194223:20 <Olivebirdy> Humor is really good. 
194323:20 <lankhmar> ahahah yes
194423:20 <Olivebirdy> Hi Empy
194523:21 <Empy> Heya olive
194623:21 <Olivebirdy> What webcomic do you like? 
194723:21 <lankhmar> You might like http://flakypastry.runningwithpencils.com/ then
194823:22 <lankhmar> although the art isn't so nice to start with
194923:22 <Olivebirdy> I'll check it out. 
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195823:22 <Olivebirdy> Have you read... Not Halo... Grrl Power? 
195923:23 <lankhmar> yep :)
196023:23 <Olivebirdy> I like how happily the artist draws people. 
196123:23 <lankhmar> good humour, lovely colours
196223:23 <lankhmar> very interesting art style
196323:24 <Olivebirdy> It's like, 'yay, imma draw people without shirts! And I will enjoy it, too!' 
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196523:24 <Olivebirdy> It's nice to see someone having fun. 
196623:24 <lankhmar> I think somone mentioned they were dissapointed the comic was taking the creater away from smut
196723:24 <O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
196823:24 <lankhmar> could be thinking of someone else though :P
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197023:25 <Olivebirdy> That was Jenthulhu. 
197123:25 <JENTHULHU> mmmmmmm?
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197323:25 <JENTHULHU> yes
197423:25 <JENTHULHU> they had entertaining smut
197523:25 <Olivebirdy> I checked out the smut, didn't find anything very interesting to me. 
197623:25 <Olivebirdy> I was hoping for Anvil smut... 
197723:25 <Olivebirdy> :p
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197923:26 <lankhmar> hahaha
198023:26 <Olivebirdy> Hmm, who else do I like to see... Xkcd used to be really funny. 
198123:26 <Olivebirdy> But then it just wasn't anymore. 
198223:26 <lankhmar> still has some very interesting comics though
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198523:31 <lankhmar> Oh actually this is very good http://www.fantasycomic.com/index.php?p=c1
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199923:53 <Narf> Wildbow.
200023:54 <•Wildbow> Yes?
200123:54 <Narf> Do you realize that the only reason people were being so stupid is because you couldn't bring yourself to handle them?
200223:54 <Narf> You don't like Lumi, but you didn't tell her to calm down and stop offending people.
200323:54 <•Wildbow> It's not my responsibility to handle DLPers
200423:54 <Narf> You ignored the problem and stayed in #weaversdice
200523:55 <Narf> And didn't communicate in here.
200623:55 <Narf> I'm not talking about DLPers.
200723:55 <•Wildbow> Oh
200823:55 <•Wildbow> DLPers were an issue though
200923:55 <Narf> I'm talking about your rampant followers.
201023:55 <Narf> I'm not denying that at all.
201123:55 <•Wildbow> Ok
201223:55 <•Wildbow> Don't sweat it, narf.
201323:55 <•Wildbow> We're working on getting out of your hair
201423:56 <•Wildbow> Sorry for the inconvenience
201523:56 <•Wildbow> You're right, I've been preoccupied, and it's a large population to handle, I did make mistakes on that front
201623:56 <•Wildbow> I hope there are no hard feelings in the long-term.
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202800:09 <•Glernaj> morning Jon
202900:09 <Ched> Hello errybody
203000:10 <howl_> Who wanted comics?
203100:10 <Jon> Deadpool or nuffin'.
203200:10 <tubes> speaking of comics
203300:10 <tubes> is secret wars any good
203400:10 <tubes> thought about reading it
203500:10 <tubes> or will it just make me mad
203600:10 <•Teruzi> it was eh
203700:10 <•Teruzi> very eh
203800:10 <•Teruzi> if you like hank pym or the was
203900:10 <•Teruzi> p
204000:10 <howl_> http://www.qwantz.com/index.php http://sssscomic.com/ http://www.smbc-comics.com/ 
204100:11 <•Teruzi> it will be painful
204200:11 <tubes> i don't like them
204300:11 <howl_> I think Olive and Lankh were discussing.
204400:11 <tubes> but they have been getting butchered for like
204500:11 <•Teruzi> oh man, smbc 10/10
204600:11 <tubes> 10 years now
204700:11 <•Teruzi> one of my facorite ones
204800:11 <•Teruzi> do you like the thunderbolts?
204900:11 <•Teruzi> they had a cool thing for the secret wars
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205500:12 <howl_> oh http://drmcninja.com/ ofc
205600:13 <apoc> Teruzi> it will be painful
205700:13 <apoc> For you.
205800:14 <•Teruzi> like I said, it's only painful if you like some characters 
205900:14 <•Glernaj> Ah, Dr. McNinja
206000:14 <apoc> Thunerbolts are awesome though
206100:14 <•Glernaj> wait, was someone looking for webcomics to read or something?
206200:15 <•Teruzi> yes they are
206300:15 <•Glernaj> who is?
206400:15 <•Glernaj> Is it Tuzi?
206500:15 <•Teruzi> (it isn'y)
206600:15 <•Teruzi> *isn't
206700:15 <•Teruzi> we're just talking about it
206800:15 <•Glernaj> Also, I am gravely dissapointed at howl_'s failure to link oglaf
206900:15 <•Teruzi> anyways, the dark reign run of the Thunderbolts is my favorite thing of that part of marvel
207000:15 <•Teruzi> oglaf is da bomb
207100:16 <howl_> It's in my daily check folder, but I don't tend to link it.
207200:16 <•Glernaj> pfft
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207400:16 <Narf> did you need something, Yewnyx?
207500:16 <Jon> Well that was weird.
207600:16 <howl_> It's not everyone's cup of mysterious fluid.
207700:16 <Jon> What were we talking about?
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207900:17 <•Glernaj> apparently webcomics now
208000:17 <Pink> http://maze.icomix.com/
208100:17 <•Glernaj> howl, darths and droids?
208200:17 — howl shakes head, confused.
208300:18 <Yewnyx> Narf: was just checking if you were ircop.
208400:18 <Yewnyx> Wasn't sure
208500:18 <tubes> Teruzi: i haven't really read any mainline series in a while
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208700:19 <tubes> last big 2 thing i read was like, half of civil war
208800:19 <tubes> no wait
208900:19 <tubes> i was the question
209000:19 <tubes> the "good" run
209100:19 <•Teruzi> civil war, ech
209200:19 <•Teruzi> so bad
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209400:19 <tubes> yeah got bored like halfway through
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210200:21 <tubes> Teruzi: so anyway, secret wars y/n
210300:21 <•Teruzi> y
210400:21 <•Teruzi> if you download it
210500:21 <tubes> i saw a couple of panels from "renew your vows" so i was like hmmmmm
210600:21 <•Teruzi> n if you buy it
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210800:21 <tubes> oh yeah obviously i'm not going to pay for it
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211000:21 <tubes> marvel has some of the biggest hacks in existence writing now
211100:22 <tubes> and dc is still a clusterfuck from the last reboot
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211300:22 <tubes> anyway
211400:24 <•Teruzi> I don't think I've read anything good from the new 52
211500:24 <•Teruzi> a bloody waste
211600:25 <Jon> http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11120/111209791/4760654-6325113101-secre.jpg <- all that needs to be said.
211700:25 <Jon> !
211800:26 <tubes> isn't there a one alternate-universe one where the celestials return to destroy the earth
211900:26 <tubes> and doom is the last man standing
212000:26 <Jon> I think so.
212100:27 <Jon> I remember someone mentioning at some point that doom is like the last hero or something
212200:27 <Jon> Lemme check.
212300:27 <tubes> i saw the page once and couldn't find it again
212400:29 <Jon> So, cards on the table.
212500:29 <tubes> ?
212600:29 <Jon> Were you guys even gonna say thank you for hosting you, or just leave without a word? Lol.
212700:29 <Jon> I get Xiph and Narf were dicks, but seriously.
212800:29 <Jon> Bit rude.
212900:29 <•Wildbow> I was going to say so when things were further along, but atm, just making sure things are working right and starting to point people in the right direction.
213000:30 <•Wildbow> Sorta preoccupied.
213100:30 <Jon> I see.
213200:30 <Jon> I believe that's called hedging your bets.
213300:30 <Shem_Phone> Thank you, Jon! 
213400:30 <•Wildbow> No, it's called just having only so much time, with other things to focus on.
213500:30 <Jon> You're welcome Shem. Sorry about the last week or two of turbulence. :) Hope you weren't impacted personally. 
213600:30 <Jon> Fair enough Wildbow, if thats how you see it.
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213800:31 <•Wildbow> And this isn't so much about anyone being problematic or rules or anything
213900:32 <Jon> It was more of a courtesy thing. Personally I understand if Xiph and Narf and co. were causing you issues.
214000:34 <Gundor> wouldn't have been my place to utter such a thank you on behalf of the group, but I do appreciate DLP
214100:35 <Yewnyx> Same
214200:35 <Yewnyx> And your discourtesy is imagined -  We only finished testing the server hours ago. And it's still being developed.
214300:37 <Roarian> take advantage and make it so anyone joining gets a randomly assigned superpower from the local omnipotent space parasite
214400:37 <Roarian> also known as the mod
214500:37 <Roarian> ;p
214600:37 <•Teruzi> ha ha
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214800:38 <Jon> Yewnyx: Lol, doesn't take that much effort to setup an irc server and 'test' it. However, I can accept that reasoning if its the first time you guys have had to deal with one on a technical level. Still doesn't absolve.
214900:39 <Jon> Funny story actually.
215000:39 <Jon> DLP originally was hosted on another server by some other people, before we got our own up and running.
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215500:39 <•Wildbow> It's the natural progression of things, Jon
215600:39 <Ridtired> Hey guys and gals
215700:39 <•Teruzi> most certainly gonna leave without saying thank you, Jon. DLP has been a fucking cool.
215800:39 <Jon> cool?
215900:39 <•Wildbow> You might've misworded that, Tuzi
216000:40 <Jon> a fucking cool?
216100:40 <•Teruzi> oh oops
216200:40 <•Teruzi> has been fucking cool
216300:40 <•Wildbow> *not gonna leave
216400:40 <•Teruzi> but as things stand, more and more people have been coming to parahumans
216500:40 <Jon> I believe something got lost in translation.
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216700:40 <•Teruzi> yes, apologies
216800:40 <Jon> No dramas.
216900:40 <•Wildbow> Yeah.  As I said in #Darklordpotter....  Just to clear up misconceptions though - this isn't about any individuals or rule changes.  It's more about the fact that we've grown to the size we have and we're still really in your backyard.  It just feels like it makes more sense, and as a professional writer I like the legitimacy of having a separate server instead of pitching tent in yours.
217000:40 <Gundor> Teruzi, lern inglesk
217100:40 <•Teruzi> >_>
217200:40 <•Teruzi> kill me
217300:41 <Jon> There seems to be a misunderstanding here.
217400:41 <Ridtired> Hm, what'd I miss?
217500:41 <•Teruzi> anyways, what Piggie said. Some of the people here have been derps. And you shouldn't be dealing with that.
217600:41 <Jon> It's completely natural to want your own server and we in no way would impede you in your efforts to get one up and running yourself.
217700:41 <•Wildbow> Appreciated, Jon.  You've been a cool guy.
217800:41 <Jon> The issue is that you were underhanded about it, either intentionally and unintentionally.
217900:41 <Jon> Apparently the server is being spread via PMs.
218000:42 <Jon> You haven't even set it at the channel title.
218100:42 <•Teruzi> it's at #WeaversDice
218200:42 <•Teruzi> on the topic
218300:42 <Jon> I'm sure you can see why it comes across as being deceitful. 
218400:42 <Jon> The fact that when I brought it up you defended yourself rather than taking the time to say anything positive is also baffling.
218500:42 <•Wildbow> ?
218600:43 <Pink> ...
218700:43 <Pink> ahahahahaha.
218800:45 <Jon> I take it back.
218900:45 <Jon> Sorry, Wildbow.
219000:45 <•Wildbow> Really truly, we just got the server up and running a short time ago.  We've been talking about it openly and pointing people over there if they're curious, but we're still loading up tools and getting the very preliminary stuff sorted out.  I'm not too familiar with IRC and I'm having to read up on stuff to just get channels and ops stuff set up right, while taking care of sick dogs.  No...
219100:45 <•Wildbow> ...slight or subterfuge was intended.
219200:45 <Jon> I was focusing on here rather than the DLP channel.
219300:45 <Jon> Wasn't aware you were messaging in there.
219400:45 <Gundor> /topicappend irc://irc.parahumans.net/parahumans
219500:46 <Gundor> perhaps?
219600:46 •Glernaj set the topic: New parahumans IRC @ irc.parahumans.net
219700:46 <•Glernaj> Bam
219800:46 <•Teruzi> *swoons*
219900:47 •Wildbow set the topic: We're in the process of migrating over to a new server: irc://irc.parahumans.net/parahumans // Join us over there as you're able // Thank you to DLP!
220000:47 <•Teruzi> I do love a man that's decisive 
220100:48 <•Wildbow> I said my bit to DLP, thank you for the prod, Jon.  I tend to overfocus on stuff, especially when people are involved.  If you wanted to mention it or let people know as they asked, that would be handy.
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220300:49 <Jon> All good Wildbow. Sorry about the confrontation. It was me or someone worse, you understand.
220400:49 <•Wildbow> If it's alright I'll stick around for a bit as we carry out the migration, to make sure you aren't pestered by lost newbies & the people who only check in periodically.  I'll be available for any questions if anything comes up.
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220600:58 <Jon> The decision isn't up to me solely, if it was I'd be fine with it.
220700:59 <Jon> Are your dogs terribly sick? I've gained new appreciation for the sheer level of concern a pet can elicit since getting my puppy at the start of the year. I have nights where I wake up panicking that she's been hurt. o_o;.
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220901:02 <•Wildbow> Not terribly.  I removed burrs from one dog's ear the other night, and used olive oil to get the burrs out.
221001:03 <•Wildbow> It was super late by the time I finished, so I gave her a quick wash and left it, found more burrs in the armpit yesterday, used more olive oil to help comb them out, but I think the dogs licked at the olive oil and made themselves sick
221101:03 <•Wildbow> So I had a small mess to clean up earlier
221201:03 <•Wildbow> Then took them for a walk, with one dog being very sluggish/uncooperative
221301:03 <•Teruzi> (read: drunk)
221401:03 <•Wildbow> I don't think olive oil makes you drunk
221501:03 <•Wildbow> 99% sure
221601:03 <Jon> They big dogs or small?
221701:03 <•Wildbow> Golden doodle & cocker spaniel.
221801:03 <•Wildbow> Medium-large and small, respectively
221901:03 <Jon> That 1% involve italian food.
222001:04 <Jon> That sucks man. :(
222101:04 <Jon> I have a mini foxy/chihuahua cross.
222201:04 <Jon> She's normally fine except she throws up anytime she's in the car.
222301:04 <•Wildbow> Big one is a rescue from a puppy mill.  She's always had a super sensitive stomach.
222401:05 <•Wildbow> Like, give her a bone and she'll basically expel her stomach contents over wall, floor, and ceiling a few hours later.
222501:05 <Jon> The first few times we took her to the vet she threw up as we got there. Made for a super panicky moment.
222601:05 <Jon> Ah damn.
222701:05 <Jon> Whats her usual food?
222801:05 <Jon> Can she eat carrot?
222901:05 <•Wildbow> Just regular dog food.
223001:05 <•Wildbow> With no treats or other food, ever.
223101:05 <•Wildbow> They're my aunt's dog.  But since my schedule is flexible, I often dogsit
223201:06 <•Wildbow> This year it's been two different three-four week stints.  Which is wearing on me just a little.
223301:06 <Jon> That would.. yeah.
223401:06 <Jon> Especially if they require a lot of care.
223501:06 <•Wildbow> It's when the big one gets sick and it's a 1-2 hour cleanup that's brutal
223601:06 <Jon> I'll be back in half an hour. o/
223701:06 <•Wildbow> Pretty sure it was the little one today
223801:06 <•Wildbow> Later, Jon
223901:09 •Clarvel set the topic: We're in the process of migrating over to a new server:  irc.parahumans.net  channel:  #parahumans ||  Join us over there as you're able || Thank you to DLP!
224001:09 <•Clarvel> there, now it makes better sense
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225201:20 <keyonte0> I love nurses.
225301:20 <keyonte0> "Have you tried Tylenol"
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225501:21 <•Wildbow> What's wrong, Keyster?
225601:21 <keyonte0> "Yes, and it didn't work"
225701:21 <keyonte0> "Well we're gonna give you some Tylenol"
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225901:22 <Nadaesque> Yeah.  Sometimes you think people have been replaced with really crappy flowcharts and it's not all that helpful.
226001:22 <keyonte0> My mom has an issue with countless hospitals repeatedly attempting to give her shit she explicitly said she was allergic to.
226101:22 <Nadaesque> "More Tylenol.  They can do liver transplants now."
226201:23 <Nadaesque> keyonte0: "They" (the nebulous they) are working on ways to integrate that kind of information into patient recommendations, but it's been slow.
226301:27 <keyonte0> It seems that the common MO among ER doctors and nurses is the opposite of customer service.
226401:27 <keyonte0> "The patient is always wrong"
226501:27 <•Glernaj> To be fair, that's my stance on customer service too
226601:28 <•Glernaj> Also, generally, going into an ER and saying "I'm allergic to [common painkiller]" is a trademark phrase used by junkies looking to score opioids.
226701:28 <keyonte0> Also a more extreme version of Occam's Razor.
226801:29 <keyonte0> "The most simplest answer is always the correct one"
226901:29 <keyonte0> the simplest*
227001:30 <•Glernaj> eh, in triage situations at an ER, it's usually more "the simplest answer usually won't kill the patient, and dear god we have HOW MANY people in the waiting room right now, and oh fuck EMS is bringing in a trauma code"
227101:31 <keyonte0> Most likely the most common reason doctors misdiagnose. Take a brief glance over the symptoms and give a diagnosis solely based on what the most statistically probably cause is.
227201:31 <•Glernaj> Well, there's that, and there's also the fact that it might be something completely outside of their specialty
227301:32 <Nadaesque> It's a pain^H^H^H^Hgreat difficulty finding a doctor who write sufficiently strong scripts.  The palliative care types are looking towards cancer, etc.
227401:33 <•Glernaj> Well, does her PCP not provide her with "in case of debilitation, break glass" pain pills?
227501:34 <keyonte0> Also giving completely wrong scripts based on a completely wrong diagnosis.
227601:34 — Nadaesque clutches the Orange Power Battery ^H^H^H^H^H amber pill bottle to his chest. "MINE!"
227701:35 <keyonte0> Medical error is a very common cause of death in the US, I'd like to note.
227801:35 <Nadaesque> Iatrogenic booboos, yuss.
227901:37 <keyonte0> I can think of more than 5 family members off the top of my head who are either dead thanks to or suffered serious consequences thanks to a misdiagnosed ailment.
228001:37 <howl> darths and droids is amaaazing
228101:37 <keyonte0> Or malpractice.
228201:38 <howl> sorry for butting in without reading.
228301:38 <keyonte0> I'm pretty sure everyone in this chat does it.
228401:39 <keyonte0> Hell I do it OFTEN.
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228601:40 <keyonte0> Actually, I'm googling it a bit, and I've seen like 3 pages list medical error as the 3rd leading cause of death in the US.
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228801:44 <ErrantVagrant> Heya Nuhuh
228901:44 <Nadaesque> I think the fifth leading cause is regular use of Questionable Content.
229001:44 <Nuhuh> Errant o/
229101:44 <Nuhuh> and all
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229301:47 <Nuhuh> Hmm a new channel
229401:47 <Nuhuh> Is that where all the hip kids are going?
229501:48 <•Glernaj> new channel on a new server
229601:51 <Nadaesque> I'll probably be left behind.  Picked last for the team.  Okay.jpg.
229701:53 <•Glernaj> hm?
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229901:53 <•Glernaj> the info is right there in the channel topic
230001:53 <•Glernaj> do you not know how to switch servers?
230101:54 <Nadaesque> I do.  I'm just being goofy.
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230802:02 <Nuhuh> Hmm, well I just started showing up here and you all are leaving?! Anyway, good luck to whoever moves. I'm sure this channel will continue, there are quite a few of us at DLP who read worm and worm fanfic.
230902:02 <•Wildbow> Thanks for having us, Nuh.
231002:03 <•Wildbow> I'm sure a number will hang around, if they're welcome.
231102:03 <ErrantVagrant> Yar, thar be cool people here.
231202:03 <Nuhuh> Hey man, I just had arranged for a Worm section on DLP, so you and anyone is welcome to stay. 
231302:04 <•Clarvel> you can come with us huh
231402:04 <•Clarvel> nuh
231502:05 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, and somehow someone got Ritic to post on it.  I am impressed.
231602:05 <Nuhuh> Thanks Clarvel 
231702:05 <Nuhuh> I will stop by when the transition is over.
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232202:12 <Nuhuh> ErrantVagrant: Ritic? Do they not post usually?
232302:14 <ErrantVagrant> Hahaha, to say that Ritic has social anxiety would be an understatement.
232402:15 <Nuhuh> oh lord
232502:15 <Nuhuh> someone should've mentioned it
232602:15 <Nuhuh> might have to white knight
232702:15 <ErrantVagrant> Just...  give it time.
232802:15 <ErrantVagrant> I'm proud of him for it, seriously.
232902:15 <Nuhuh> ErrantVagrant: what thread? So I can keep watch.
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233402:16 <Nuhuh> haha ok. I know DLP can be critical, but if you get over the initial bump, it can be very helpful as well.
233502:17 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, he signed up because there was a post that could be seen as ripping that he took as "OH SHIT SON, that's where I need to improve on my work!"
233602:17 <Nuhuh> ah cool, great attitude. 
233702:18 <ErrantVagrant> He apparently messaged the guy to thank him, and the guy asked him to post a rebuttal.
233802:19 <ErrantVagrant> Getting him to post in an open forum is pretty tricky these days, so really, I'm very pleased by it.  I can't even get him to post on IRC, and him getting a Reddit account is right out.
233902:20 <Nuhuh> haha, well, baby steps then, DLP today, Tomorrow, and day after Reddit
234002:21 <Jon> That's one of the things I love about DLP. If someone comes to DLP genuinely wanting to improve then it's welcoming.
234102:21 <Jon> If someone comes looking to argue or fight about things then they get what they want as well.
234202:21 <Jon> xD
234302:21 <Nuhuh> True enough. Haha.
234402:21 <ErrantVagrant> Yeah, seems pretty cool like that.
234502:21 <Jon> I've seen long time members getting shat on because they picked on someone who had come looking for help/advice.
234602:22 <Nuhuh> ^
234702:22 <Nuhuh> Work By Author section is practically hallowed ground as far as that attitude goes. It's presumed you're there to get help
234802:24 <JENTHULHU> mmm
234902:24 <Jon> Some days I want to make a new account and posts stories under it so people would critique me more. ;_;
235002:25 <•Glernaj> That would require you to actually continue a story though Jon :P
235102:25 <Jon> Psh.
235202:25 — JENTHULHU offers Jon some Pemmican
235302:25 <Jon> Not my fault that people can't engage with with critique which leads to stories being dropped.
235402:26 <Jon> I have no idea what that is Jen, lol. But thanks all the same. <3
235502:26 <Jon> Glernaj did you see the review happy g left me?
235602:26 <•Glernaj> mmm, type of trail food
235702:26 <Jon> Narf legit fell in love.
235802:26 <•Glernaj> now I didn't
235902:26 <Jon> It was glorious
236002:27 <apoc> it was also a shitty review >.>
236102:27 <Jon> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=856272
236202:28 <Jon> This and onward.
236302:28 <Jon> I don't disagree with her on that line tbh, it reads badly.
236402:28 <Jon> Turns out that she was actually handicapped and she lost her collective shit.
236502:29 <•Glernaj> I'm super amused that she couldn't even name the sarlacc correctly
236602:29 <ErrantVagrant> Heading out for now.  Need foods and sleeps.
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236802:29 <apoc> "the entire story is in past tense"
236902:29 <apoc> <.<
237002:30 <Jon> tbh she's technically right.
237102:30 <Jon> I should go post modern and use future tense.
237202:30 <Pink> The internet is a bad place to go for polite and useful reviews of creative works.
237302:30 <Jon> that's what DLP is for.
237402:30 <Jon> Well
237502:30 <Jon> Useful
237602:30 <Jon> Not so much polite.
237702:31 <apoc> Yes but Jon, her review was neither useful nor polite
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237902:31 <Jon> That was the issue, yeah.
238002:31 <apoc> Sree just loves her because of the sass
238102:31 <Jon> And in her follow up where she spent like 1k+ words 'reviewing' me.
238202:31 <Jon> it covered like 2 paragraphs.
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238402:31 <apoc> and specifically, that she sassed you, if she'd done that to him he would've probably banned her
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238602:32 <Jon> Sree loves everyone who hates me.
238702:32 <Nuhuh> she was handicapped?
238802:32 <Jon> Uh
238902:32 <Nuhuh> I feel awful now
239002:32 <Jon> Dont read the rest of the thread.
239102:32 <•Glernaj> nah nuhuh
239202:32 <•Glernaj> not mentally
239302:32 <Jon> Shit goes DLPs distinct flavour of abusive, rofl.
239402:32 <Nuhuh> oh
239502:32 <•Glernaj> car accident it says
239602:33 <Jon> Xiph is right in his element.
239702:33 <Nuhuh> loool
239802:33 <Nuhuh> now I have to read
239902:33 <JENTHULHU> onwords to new pastures it seems
240002:33 <JENTHULHU> er
240102:33 <JENTHULHU> onwards
240202:33 <•Glernaj> so wheelchair, not mental
240302:33 <JENTHULHU> cya
240402:33 <Jon> Later.
240502:33 <Nuhuh> later
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240702:33 <apoc> tenages counter review was pretty top kek
240802:34 <Jon> Uh, back to the original point.
240902:34 <Jon> Which was something about a worm writer.
241002:34 <Jon> ^_^;.
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241502:35 <Nuhuh> Rittic the Brave
241602:35 <Jon> Rittic the Noble.
241702:36 <Nuhuh> I have to see where he posted
241802:36 <apoc> still wish I'd gotten more of a response on my Worm thread
241902:36 <apoc> Thinker6 chipping in was good, but I don't want people who just agree with my point to varying degrees of intensity
242002:37 <apoc> and no one except Panda said anything when I brought it up here
242102:38 <Nuhuh> link apoc
242202:38 <apoc> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=30389
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242903:19 <•Wildbow> To the unaware, we're in the process of moving ourselves to another server.  See the topic.
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246605:37 <Ryuugi> https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/19192482/
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248606:23 <Ereus> hey all hey bow
248706:24 <•Wildbow> Hi Ereus
248806:24 <•Wildbow> Take note of the topic.
248906:24 <•Wildbow> We're migratin'
249006:25 <Ereus> can i get a link?
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249506:26 <Ereus> im trying to find it
249606:26 <•Wildbow> See the topic
249706:26 <•Wildbow> Type /topic to see it
249806:26 <Ereus> how do i find the channel i mean bow
249906:26 <•Wildbow> Once you're on the server, type /join #Parahumans
250006:27 <Ereus> and how do i find the server?
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250206:28 <Ereus> sorry to bother you bow
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250706:30 <•Wildbow> Type /server irc.parahumans.net
250806:30 <•Clarvel> hes gone bow
250906:30 <•Wildbow> Ah
251006:30 <•Wildbow> D'oh
251106:31 <•Clarvel> but srsly, he got on here okay, migrating shouldnt be hard
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251306:32 <agdag> really?
251406:32 <agdag> also whats the port?
251506:33 <agdag> number
251606:33 <•Clarvel> 6667
251706:33 <agdag> who banned me?
251806:33 <jelly> Default
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252006:33 <•Clarvel> u were banned?
252106:33 <•Clarvel> reason?
252206:33 <•Clarvel> date?
252306:34 <agdag> no im Ereus why was ereus banned
252406:34 <•Wildbow> He wasn't
252506:34 agdag → Ereus
252606:34 <Ereus> it said i was
252706:35 <Jon> it's because you're australian.
252806:35 <Jon> !
252906:36 <Ereus> really? you banned me?
253006:36 <Ched> *facepalm*
253106:36 <Jon> How would I do that?
253206:37 <Jon> You're here talking to me.
253306:37 <Ereus> nvm
253406:37 <Ched> This talk of Australian makes me want toast.
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253606:38 <Ched> Cuz I had this Aussie roommate once, who put that marmite shite on all the toast.
253706:38 <Ched> Mmmm, toast.
253806:38 <Ched> :D
253906:38 <Jon> That was weird.
254006:38 <Jon> you mean vegemite?
254106:38 <Jon> marmite is a uk thing isn't it?
254206:39 <Ched> Vegemite then, maybe I got it confused. There was one that she deemed not good enough
254306:39 <Ched> so probably didn't use the marmite but loved the vegemite then
254406:39 <Jon> personally prefer promite.
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255006:49 <Yewnyx> Nae: why not stay?
255106:49 <•Nae> DLP is my home <3
255206:50 <•Nae> I do hope you stick around in #prog here as well though Yewnyx :)
255306:50 <•Clarvel> aww, nae
255406:50 <•Clarvel> it's just another server connection
255506:50 <•Nae> If only. We differ ideologically. :p
255606:51 <•Nae> I tried to resist!!
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255806:52 <Stumble> Hey someone told me this channel is on another server now?
255906:52 <•Nae> see topic Stumble 
256006:52 <Stumble> Ah thank you
256106:52 <Ched> Eh, Nae, if you use mIRC or something you could be at both DLP and their new place at the same time
256206:52 <•Nae> I know
256306:53 <•Nae> I also am always on Freenode
256406:53 <Ched> I used to hang out in another IRC channel for writing but they got pissy and told me not to sit in it if I was ever gonna be AFK
256506:53 <Ched> so XD
256606:53 <•Nae> wait did they?
256706:53 <•Nae> lol
256806:53 <•Nae> IRC idling isn't uncommon
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257006:53 <•Nae> if anything, it's the norm
257106:53 <Yewnyx> Ched: nae is a mac user using Textual 
257206:53 — Yewnyx uses Textual as well, bounced through ZNC
257306:53 <Ched> yeah, Nae, lol.
257406:53 <•Wildbow> I'm in another writing chat and one or two members are sorta sensitive about sharing their writing when there are silent eyes watching.
257506:53 — •Nae also uses znc
257606:54 <Ched> Mhm, Wildbow, but in my case that wasn't it. No one shared writing in that IRC. But that would be a good point.
257706:54 <•Wildbow> Was it more about the process of writing?
257806:54 <Ched> I'd DC about once a day and reconnect, and they'd say "hello" but I wouldn't be there
257906:54 <•Wildbow> Or just a hangout?
258006:54 <Ched> and that drove them up the wall
258106:54 <Ched> Just a hangout
258206:54 <•Mishie> ha
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258406:55 <Ched> They got passive aggressive about it too, which just sort of turned me off them :P
258506:55 <Ched> heheh
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259307:14 <Jon> http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/burger-kings-halloween-black-whopper-is-causing-peoples-stools-to-turn-bright-green/story-fnq2oad4-1227560529418
259407:15 <•Nae> ...
259507:15 <Jon> They arent available in australia
259607:16 <Jon> ;_
259707:16 <•Nae> you want green poop Jon?
259807:17 <Jon> Yes. Absolutely.
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260007:17 <Jon> If I could, I would choose to poop the rainbow.
260107:17 <•Nae> A reasonable request. 
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260307:17 <Jon> Would you not?
260407:17 <•Nae> Green isn't really my colour...
260507:17 <•Nae> mayhaps 
260607:17 <•Nae> blue
260707:18 <Thalia> Next time it should be red poop. Really scare some people.
260807:18 <•Nae> Red poop would scare the shit out of me
260907:18 <Thalia> Exactly.
261007:18 <•Wildbow> Haha
261107:20 <•Nae> purple 
261207:20 <Yewnyx> I have had neon orange poop before.
261307:20 <yak> Jon: They arent available in australia <-- this is an outrage
261407:20 <yak> We're always getting shat on
261507:20 <yak> Why can't we do the shitting?
261607:20 <•Nae> just regular colour shit
261707:20 <Yewnyx> I had some beef and it was like 50% beef 50% really really spicy stuff poured on top
261807:20 <yak> Green. Poop.
261907:21 <•Nae> XD
262007:21 <•Mishie> yak: The Dream
262107:21 <•Nae> "neon orange"
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262707:28 <Yewnyx> off i go.
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263908:00 <yak> https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=30588
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265108:46 <Vereorskool> Clarvel: or mishie 
265208:46 <•Clarvel> ?
265308:46 <•Mishie> wat
265408:46 <Vereorskool> https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.parahumans.net/?nick=Para-Guest|?&theme=cli#parahumans,#weaverdice throw that link into the topic maybe? 
265508:46 <•Mishie> wat?
265608:46 <Vereorskool> So newbies who don't know shit about irc can use it 
265708:46 <•Clarvel> why
265808:46 <•Clarvel> how would irc newbs even get here
265908:47 <Vereorskool> I had to help luna and Lacks already
266008:47 <•Clarvel> in the first place
266108:47 <Vereorskool> Reddit sidebar
266208:47 <•Mishie> so many questions
266308:47 <Vereorskool> Wilbur didn't update it yet 
266408:47 <Vereorskool> And even regulars don't know about irc sometimes 
266508:47 <Vereorskool> Like lacks and Luna 
266608:47 <Vereorskool> Had to help them yesterday
266708:47 <•Wildbow> I'm bad with reddit CSS
266808:48 <Vereorskool> Ask Yewnyx, wildbo, he used to be a reddit admin
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267008:49 <Vereorskool> It's a direct link to the channel, for people who don't use proper clients 
267108:49 <Vereorskool> What's so bad about it? :V
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267708:50 <•Wildbow> Added sidebar link
267808:50 <panth> o_O
267908:50 <panth> Hey 'Bow
268008:50 <panth> I started a Let's Read of Twig last night
268108:51 <•Wildbow> Oh?
268208:51 <panth> It's only got one chapter done in it so far though
268308:51 <•Wildbow> Link?
268408:51 <panth> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/lets-read-twig-no-spoilers-please.22898/
268508:51 — •Wildbow give Panth a Wildbow Coin.
268608:51 <•Wildbow> *gives
268708:52 — panth bronzes and frames it in place of honour on the wall
268808:52 <Vereorskool> Gg panth
268908:52 <Vereorskool> Gg
269008:52 — panth plots to one day get Blake Hannon MSPaint Art too, just like the Let's Read Worm thread
269108:52 <panth> Ohey Vern
269208:52 <Vereorskool> Also panth 
269308:52 <panth> >_> Elara gets some credit too for nagging at me!
269408:52 <Vereorskool> Congratulations on your increased word count 
269508:53 <Vereorskool> In your quest 
269608:53 <panth> I didn't know you'd been reading it o///o
269708:53 <Vereorskool> :v
269808:55 <panth> What d'you think of the writing?
269908:55 <panth> (Such as it is anyway)
270008:56 <Vereorskool> Eh, it's good enough :p
270108:56 <panth> >_>
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270709:01 — Vereorskool will camp here to tell every irc inept person the way
270809:01 <Vereorskool> Call me prophet 
270909:02 <Vereorskool> For i guide the way 
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271109:04 <panth> Will #weaversdice be migrating too, d'you think?
271209:04 <Jon> So...
271309:04 <Jon> 7:31 PM <~Wildbow> But above all else, I don't like being on a server where I don't have control over the community.  There were DLP people being asshats to my people and not communicating about bans and kicks.
271409:05 <panth> But he'll still be (at least) room op, if not /global/ op?
271509:05 <Jon> ?
271609:05 <Nae`cloud> Like I said 
271709:05 <Jon> Oh don't worry.
271809:06 <Jon> They've setup their own server
271909:06 <Jon> Link in the description.
272009:06 <Jon> Has everything they were doing here, just less of the lying through teeth bit.
272109:06 <Nae`cloud> Wants a personal fiefdom 
272209:06 <panth> ...the "lying through teeth" bit sounds reeeeeally bad tho
272309:07 <•Wildbow> Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
272409:07 <Jon> Unfortunately it's accurate.
272509:07 <panth> Even though I have like zero context on that.
272609:07 <Jon> What boggles my mind.
272709:07 <Jon> man, I'm just over it, lol.
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272909:07 <Jon> I'm sick of adovating for you guys and then this shit popping up.
273009:07 <•Wildbow> Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
273109:08 <Jon> No.
273209:08 <Jon> Quite frankly if it was an issue you should have brought it up as one.
273309:08 <Jon> Like a normal person would.
273409:08 <Jon> 'hey person x did y, can you do something about that?'
273509:08 — Jon shakes his head.
273609:08 <Jon> If you aren't going to be upfront about stuff, how can you expect it to be handled? boggles my mind.
273709:08 — panth doesn't get it.
273809:09 <Roarian2> man, people can get so irritable
273909:09 <•Wildbow> How am I supposed to get it handled when the people in charge are the people who are causing the problems?
274009:09 <Jon> Xiph is literally one person
274109:09 <Jon> Not even at the top of the list.
274209:09 <•Wildbow> I thought he was?
274309:09 <panth> I'm assuming Xiph appeared, took issue with somebody, and banned them at once without explanation or something, but said it was something else? Whoever he is
274409:09 <Jon> No.
274509:09 <Jon> Jesus christ.
274609:09 — •Wildbow scratches his head
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274809:09 <•Wildbow> I was led to believe he was.
274909:09 <Jon> If you even tried to communicate about this shit it would have been sorted.
275009:09 <•Wildbow> I did very early on
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275209:10 <•Wildbow> But the attitude was 'you can't do anything about [individual], they're a supermod
275309:10 <Jon> Raven is the top authority.
275409:10 <•Wildbow> So I just put up with it and shut up
275509:10 <Jon> He is the person who said you were allowed here.
275609:10 <•Wildbow> Because this is your playground and I didn't want to rock the boat
275709:10 <•Mishie> [18:06]	Wildbow	Jon, were you there when Xiph popped his head in the other night?
275809:10 <•Mishie> question
275909:10 <Jon> If you pointed out what Xiph was doing he would have been reprimanded harshly.
276009:10 <•Mishie> you mean when he came in
276109:10 <•Mishie> to talk
276209:10 <Vereorskool> Zombie said so, Narf behaved so, LuckyLee did shit as well
276309:10 <•Mishie> and from what I saw was polite the entire time
276409:10 <WalkingDisaster> Raven is the one you go to when this stuff happens. I had to do it once, when I had an issue with a member of the staff. He's very professional about it.
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276609:11 <Vereorskool> I did say go to Raven about it at the start 
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276809:11 <Nae`cloud> And you guys didn't think to pop over in main 
276909:11 <•Wildbow> I mean when he stuck his head into Weaverdice and was like, "Wow, the people in that room are even more immature than the people in parahumans.  So creepy."
277009:11 <Vereorskool> Nobody listens to Vern 
277109:11 <Jon> The other day someone asked who was in charge
277209:11 <Jon> I told them Raven.
277309:11 <WalkingDisaster> Zombie and Luckylee are trolls of the highest order. Literally not worth pouring  water on if they were burning.
277409:11 <apoc> Xiph0 wasn't even doing anything, aside from when Jen tried to crusade against him
277509:11 <Nae`cloud> And figure out who actually runs dlp 
277609:11 <WalkingDisaster> Well, zombie is alright.
277709:11 <•Wildbow> Zombie seems ok
277809:12 <•Mishie> why is WalkingDisaster in here
277909:12 <•Mishie> also
278009:12 <•Wildbow> I've never had a problem with Zombie
278109:12 <WalkingDisaster> Because I wanted to see, Mishie
278209:12 <Jon> At a glance
278309:12 <Jon> I can see a dozen DLP members in here
278409:12 <apoc> that says a lot lol
278509:12 <•Mishie> when I saw luckylee here I said I was going to kick
278609:12 <Jon> Who would have told you who to talk to.
278709:12 <•Mishie> and only let him stay because he said he wasn't just here to troll
278809:12 <•Mishie> and because it was 4am
278909:12 <•Mishie> and I was about to sleep
279009:12 <Nae`cloud> Mishie has been  with you guys since the beginning 
279109:13 <Nae`cloud> And even he is salty now
279209:13 <•Mishie> I've just stopped caring
279309:13 <Jon> The situation with Jen was that she tried to pull rank on Xiph or Narf
279409:13 <Jon> Is that correct, as I understand it?
279509:13 <Vereorskool> Yes. 
279609:13 <•Wildbow> She was snarky about Narf supposedly abusing his powers
279709:14 <Vereorskool> You'd need to ask xiph for logs
279809:14 <•Wildbow> and then snarky with Xiph
279909:14 <Jon> That's like a school teacher trying to pull rank on a principal.
280009:14 <•Wildbow> I don't agree with what Jen did
280109:14 <Vereorskool> ^
280209:14 <Jon> Fair enough.
280309:14 <Jon> in that line I pasted.
280409:14 <apoc> I have the logs
280509:14 <Jon> There were DLP people being asshats to my people and not communicating about bans and kicks.
280609:15 <Jon> I flat out came in here and explained the situation about Jen.
280709:15 <Jon> I literally unbanned her.
280809:15 <Jon> Which I'm NOT TECHNICALLY ALLOWED TO DO.
280909:15 <Nae`cloud> Bye, I remember being threatened by bans in wd as well 
281009:15 <Nae`cloud> Btw 
281109:15 <Jon> Because we don't tread on each others feet.
281209:15 <•Wildbow> But the chafing there and the awkwardness and just the fact that I can't control my own community and keep them from bothering you guys and I was under the impression I couldn't do anything about the people bothering us guys, I just thought it was time to go.
281309:15 <Jon> I removed her HOP as recompense. 
281409:15 <Nae`cloud> Which is why I'm never there 
281509:15 <Jon> You complain about us not communicating.
281609:15 <Jon> But I'd like to put forth the case that you haven't been.
281709:16 <•Wildbow> Fair
281809:16 <Jon> if you had brought any of this up to any of the other staff 
281909:16 <Jon> Raven, Me, Syao, nuhuh, Minion, Sesc, Ched
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282109:16 <Jon> Oz
282209:16 <Jon> World
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282409:16 <Jon> There are literally a dozen people you could have talked to about this.
282509:16 <•Wildbow> Ok, but again, I was led to believe that I couldn't do anything.
282609:16 <Jon> By who?
282709:16 <Jon> Your users?
282809:17 <Jon> If I had to deal with Xiph the first thing I would have asked was who was above him or what the chain of command was.
282909:17 <Nae`cloud> I doubt he knows who they are, given people here have made zero effort to get to know dlp 
283009:17 <Jon> He is a gigantic asshole.
283109:17 <Jon> He is a self confessed gigantic asshole.
283209:17 <•Mishie> friendly reminder
283309:17 <•Mishie> Pretty sure people said "hey, talk shit out" more than a few times
283409:17 <apoc> I'm actually somewhat nostalgic now
283509:17 <apoc> this is the second time I've been banned on my first day on a new server
283609:17 <Jon> I've been in here for what..
283709:17 <Nae`cloud> Wow 
283809:17 <Jon> the last four months?
283909:18 <Vereorskool> Apoc: tbf, I did say all this was ridiculously hasty. 
284009:18 <Jon> Mishie how long have I been in here?
284109:18 <Nae`cloud> Stay classy 
284209:18 <apoc> Nae pls, Sree banned me for lulz
284309:18 <Jon> The first thing I said was that I was an ircop and if you guys needed anything to just ask.
284409:18 <Vereorskool> And all of it started with the tree reminder not to spam empty channels 
284509:18 <Vereorskool> That'll appear on list 
284609:18 <Jon> I can go back in my log and copy paste if you want.
284709:18 <•Mishie> uhhhhh
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284909:18 <•Mishie> a while?
285009:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] 竊・Joined channel #parahumans
285109:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] * Channel mode is +ntrc
285209:19 <Jon> [2014-07-22 15:20:49] * Channel timestamp is 1391678243
285309:19 <Jon> Over a year.
285409:20 <panth> Admittedly, in all that time I don't think I've really ever talked to you (or vice-versa), and I've been here a few months
285509:20 <Jon> I didn't say I was talking.
285609:20 <Jon> Just that I've been available.
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285809:21 <•Wildbow> Look, I'm sorry.  I had a really shitty summer and I was honestly not paying attention to much of IRC (except to work on Weaverdice stuff) because we had an influx of newbs and I couldn't stand many of them.  I find it difficult to take action and drop the hammer on my community when I'm reliant on it for goodwill - and I've been somewhat hands off, except when I saw issues I could tackle,...
285909:21 <•Wildbow> ...so it was hard to just kick people for being derps.
286009:21 <panth> Mmm, yeah, I guess. At least now we know who to go to if shit happens again?
286109:21 <Jon> I don't care about that tbh.
286209:21 <Jon> I liked having you guys around.
286309:21 <Jon> I like having varieties of people on irc.
286409:21 <Jon> It makes life interesting.
286509:21 <Nae`cloud> ^
286609:21 <Jon> I'm not gonna grill you for your mistakes man.
286709:21 <Jon> I'm not gonna sneer at you for being too nice to community manage.
286809:21 <Vereorskool> Tldr 
286909:22 <panth> The influx of un-stand-able newbs has dried up, too XD
287009:22 <Vereorskool> Jon is having a hard time saying goodbye 
287109:22 <Jon> Nor am I gonna berate you for trying to take the easy road.
287209:22 <Jon> The hardest time, Vere.
287309:22 <ched> To summarize: Sorry to see you guys go, enjoy your new server.
287409:22 <Jon> I'm gonna need a hand, if you catch my drift.
287509:22 ched → Ched
287609:22 <Ched> but
287709:22 — Vereorskool pats Jon
287809:22 <Jon> Ched, be the mean one please.
287909:22 <Ched> people in here always seemed pretty easy to offend, ridiculously so
288009:22 <Nae`cloud> Yeah 
288109:22 <Nae`cloud> Exactly 
288209:23 <panth> Some of them have really thin skin :/
288309:23 <•Wildbow> Some do.
288409:23 <Nae`cloud> And coming from Ched who is super nice 
288509:23 <•Mishie> also
288609:23 <Ched> I'm not denying that some DLP members (maybe a mod) came in here and acted like they'd normally act in a DLP main channel
288709:23 <Ched> And what is considered normal/fine there isn't so here.
288809:23 <•Mishie> I'm pretty sure a few of us have volunteered to play badcop for you Bow
288909:23 <•Mishie> against the really bad derps
289009:24 <Jon> Anyway.
289109:24 <•Mishie> instead of just y'know, ignoring them and hoping the problem would go away
289209:24 <Jon> Good luck with your new server. I hope you eventually realize that if no one is the bad guy, everyone becomes bad guys.
289309:24 <Nae`cloud> I know I've been a dick here
289409:24 — panth points out that Mish is super great at being badcop
289509:24 <Jon> I hope you at least stick around on the server and chat every now and then, I enjoy talking to other writers.
289609:24 <Nae`cloud> But it was never that bad tbh
289709:24 <Nae`cloud> Anywho 
289809:24 <panth> Jon: I'm sure you'd be quite welcome over there too? o_o
289909:25 <•Wildbow> I don't think you're a bad guy, Jon.  I just have had moments where I had really low tolerance for dickishness, and didn't feel I had the right/clout/ability to act against it.
290009:25 <Jon> I'm not a bad guy.
290109:25 <Jon> I'm a fucking balls to the walls awesome guy.
290209:25 <•Wildbow> You've been really cool through this entire thing
290309:25 <Jon> But like I said, sometimes you have to be the bad guy.
290409:25 <•Wildbow> I do see where you're coming from
290509:25 <apoc> I will say 
290609:25 <apoc> >didn't feel I had the right/clout/ability to act against it.
290709:25 <•Wildbow> I wish I could convey where I'm coming from or draw more concrete examples
290809:26 <Ched> Eh, Wildbow
290909:26 <apoc> seems weird, considering the sorta-disturbing levels of worship you see in this chat
291009:26 <panth> As an aside, I've never understood "balls to the walls" as a metaphor. It sounds extremely uncomfortable.
291109:26 <Jon> Mm.
291209:26 <Ched> Regardless of any problems, it's true that you dont' own/control this server. And apparently you have a massive-ass fanbase
291309:26 <Jon> Me either tbh.
291409:26 <Jon> Urban dictionary to the rescue.
291509:26 <Jon> "term used by pilots. when accelerating quickly, the throttle is pushed all the way to the panel and the throttle lever (ball) actually touches the panel (wall). Hence, balls to the wall."
291609:26 <•Wildbow> It's a term used by...
291709:26 <•Wildbow> You beat me to it
291809:26 <Ched> So it's understandable you want that full control. But if there were issues with the over-sensibilities of the folks in here versus DLP folks, most of us didn't hear about it.
291909:26 <Jon> I'm the fastest man alive.
292009:27 <apoc> that's some mighty quick googlin' you got there jon
292109:27 <•Mishie> ;)
292209:27 <Jon> At least that's what that prostitute said.
292309:27 <Jon> :(
292409:27 <•Wildbow> A lot of it was stuff that was hard to point to, but really had a small, cumulative effect
292509:27 <apoc> Really?
292609:27 <Jon> Communication is good.
292709:27 <•Mishie> once again, if people aren't told of the problems
292809:27 <•Wildbow> and I'll have to point to my banning of the word 'dank' in the Weaversdice channel
292909:27 <•Mishie> shit wont change
293009:27 <Jon> Take that as a lesson going forward.
293109:27 <•Mishie> hell
293209:27 <panth> ...we migrate to a new channel, and it's /still/ "weaversdice" rather than "weaverdice"
293309:27 <•Mishie> using that as an example
293409:28 <Ched> I think someone in the Parahumans community that the fans respected probably needed to say "Ignore the trolls, don't get so easily offended" or something. And on DLPs end we could have said "stop trolling quite so hard" if we'd known.
293509:28 <•Wildbow> No it isn't.
293609:28 <apoc> It felt a lot like after the "cut down the number of channels" talk, tubes, Yewnyx, and SCG sorta just took off and decided parahumans was going rogue
293709:28 <•Mishie> panth: jfc you're illiterate
293809:28 <•Mishie> :|
293909:28 <panth> Oh wait, there's that too
294009:28 <panth> There's /both/
294109:28 <Jon> Anyway. Wildbow sorry for taking up so much of your writing time the past few days.
294209:28 <panth> ...huh.
294309:28 <•Wildbow> Nah, it's actually been reasonably well timed.
294409:29 <•Wildbow> There were only a few events that came down on/immediately after writing days.
294509:29 <Ched> But seriously, Wildbow, I get wanting your own place. Hope it kicks ass. I'll come join sometime if I ever get around to reading Worm :P Hopefully they won't kick me immediately for mentioning I'm from DLP. Heheh.
294609:29 <•Wildbow> So no worries on that front
294709:29 <•Wildbow> We'd be happy to have you, Ched.
294809:29 — panth is not familiar enough with Ched to have an opinion either way
294909:29 <Jon> Ched's a lovely girl.
295009:29 <•Mishie> panth: #WeaversDice is where the derps go
295109:30 <Ched> Hah, yeah, I'm apparently "the nice one" on DLP. And even I felt like i had to walk on eggshells in this channel b/c of how easily offended everyone seemed to be. ;)
295209:30 — panth sniffs
295309:30 <Ched> Well, not /everyone/, but most.
295409:30 <Ched> *pats Panth* I don't know you either dear.
295509:30 <Jon> Ched.
295609:30 <Nae`cloud> As an aside, can I just say
295709:30 <Jon> I'll be honest.
295809:30 <panth> Maybe we should hang out, get a nice drink or two
295909:30 <Jon> I always thought Tinn was the nice one.
296009:30 <Jon> Turns out she was only nice to me.
296109:30 <Nae`cloud> content creator being the one to control the community
296209:30 <•Mishie> wow
296309:30 <•Mishie> rip
296409:30 <Nae`cloud> feels like a bad idea
296509:31 <Nae`cloud> also lol
296609:31 <Jon> She fucking tore other people a new one.
296709:31 <Nae`cloud> ^
296809:31 <Jon> Nae: tbh it's better that way.
296909:31 <Nae`cloud> I've seen Tinn in action.
297009:31 <Jon> If WB is in control he doesn't have to worry about a coup.
297109:31 <Ched> lol, I never thought of myself as nice. But *shrug*
297209:31 <Nae`cloud> You're like the nicest DLPer Ched
297309:31 <Jon> You're at the nice end of the sliding DLP scale.
297409:31 <Jon> You literally asked me to help design your friends book cover to help her out.
297509:31 <Jon> That's nice.
297609:31 <Roarian2> I am nice to basically everyone except WD
297709:32 <Roarian2> ;p
297809:32 <Ched> XD
297909:32 <Jon> WD deserves it though.
298009:32 <Roarian2> does he ever
298109:32 <Nae`cloud> nobody is nice to WD
298209:32 <Jon> He's.. a walking disaster.
298309:32 <•Mishie> mhm
298409:32 <Ched> He's alright
298509:32 <apoc> Ched he really isn't
298609:33 <apoc> He really, really, really isn't
298709:33 <Roarian2> and yeah, ched is what passes for kind among our band of raving marauders
298809:33 <Ched> *shrug* If you're serious, tell me about it in pm.
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299009:33 <Elara> o/ morning
299109:33 <apoc> There's only so much general idiocy one can take Ched
299209:33 <panth> Elaraaaaaaa
299309:33 <panth> 'Bow posted in my Let's Read thread
299409:34 <panth> And you haven't
299509:34 <panth> Go rectify that ;D
299609:34 <Elara> ahahaha no
299709:34 <Elara> so much work to do :(
299809:35 <panth> You've already interviewed! You're one foot out the door as is
299909:35 <panth> Work can be left to your successor!
300009:35 <Elara> didn't get the job :(
300109:36 <Ched> :(
300209:36 <panth> D:
300309:37 <panth> On the bright side, at least they told you
300409:37 <Elara> they gave me feedback and everything
300509:37 <panth> Ah
300609:37 <Elara> I'm just sad because I wanted it
300709:37 <panth> That's very nice of them
300809:37 <panth> At least you know your improvement targets though
300909:37 — panth pats Elara
301009:38 <Vereorskool> Jon u can join the new server as well ofc
301109:38 — Vereorskool isn't gonna abandon any server
301209:38 <Roarian2> what let's read thread, panth?
301309:38 <Nae`cloud> Vern <3
301409:39 <Roarian2> I should do one of those, but then chronicle my adventures in trying to find gems among shitfic
301509:39 <panth> Roarian2: I started a Let's Read Twig
301609:39 <Nae`cloud> I'm hoping soul and Teruzi stick around too
301709:39 <Vereorskool> Nae <3
301809:39 <Roarian2> panth, I haven't even read it
301909:39 <Roarian2> so
302009:39 <panth> Mostly because Elara prodded me to
302109:39 <Nae`cloud> also Elara
302209:39 <panth> Yeah neither have I xD
302309:39 <Nae`cloud> hmm, who else
302409:39 <Elara> mmm Nae?
302509:39 <panth> Not me apparently :<
302609:40 <Nae`cloud> see channel topic Elara
302709:40 <Nae`cloud> you suck panth :p
302809:40 <Roarian2> tbh after worm I was kinda tired of starting another wildbow epic so I put it off
302909:40 <Nae`cloud> but sure, stick around!
303009:40 <Roarian2> figured I could get to it when it was done
303109:40 <Elara> ah yuss, I am on there already Nae
303209:40 <Roarian2> but now there's like a third story
303309:40 — Roarian2 rubs forehead
303409:40 <panth> Yeah I skipped Pact entirely D
303509:40 <panth> XD
303609:40 <Elara> IRCcloud good for running more than one server
303709:40 <•Wildbow> Twig is getting a much better reception than Pact
303809:40 <•Wildbow> Real life got in the way of Pact
303909:40 <panth> Mmhmm
304009:41 <Nae`cloud> I basically don't know half the people in the channel list
304109:41 <•Wildbow> Though Pact is maintianing a fairly low readership #, the income stream is still strong.
304209:41 <Nae`cloud> o_O
304309:41 <•Wildbow> We had an insurgence from reddit
304409:41 <•Wildbow> I don't know a lot of them.
304509:41 <apoc> Twig is better, objectively than either Pact or Worm imo
304609:41 <panth> Aren't insurgencies generally a... military thing?
304709:41 <Elara> I am loving Twig atm Wilbur. I still can't see where the hell the story is going
304809:41 <Elara> but eh
304909:41 <Nae`cloud> apoc: orly
305009:41 <apoc> but the aesthetic and world of Worm is more attractive to many I think
305109:42 <Nae`cloud> might give it a read then
305209:42 <Roarian2> tbf, think about it
305309:42 <•Wildbow> Yeah.  I think Worm was a bit of a lucky break
305409:42 <Roarian2> how many superhero epics are there in written form
305509:42 <Nae`cloud> see people, that's how you rec stuff
305609:42 <Roarian2> just, anywhere
305709:42 <•Wildbow> Because it came out around the time the good superhero movies did
305809:42 <Roarian2> even good superhero stories in general 
305909:42 <•Wildbow> and people were more receptive
306009:42 <Roarian2> they're rare as hell
306109:42 <Roarian2> and mostly in comics
306209:42 <panth> I've also said before that I think Worm has the benefit of having knocked around your head for a few years in drabbles and drafts and what-not
306309:42 <Elara> to be fair, I got receptive enough to superhero stuff that I'd give Worm a try because of Phil Sandifer
306409:43 <apoc> Mmmm, maybe. It was, at the very least, a very unique combination of a strong character based novel with an attractive aesthetic and theming, yet different enough to make it much more interesting
306509:43 <Jon> Vereorskool: I don't actually read any of WB's stuff. >_>;.
306609:43 <Jon> I've been gearing toward my own original stuff lately so I've been avoiding reading a lot and mostly been focusing on introspective bits.
306709:43 <•Wildbow> It's tripe anyway
306809:43 <Vereorskool> :P
306909:43 <Jon> Every author hates their own stuff.
307009:43 <•Wildbow> What do you write, Jon?
307109:43 <Vereorskool> You should read Twig
307209:43 <Jon> And if they don't then they're assholes.
307309:43 <•Wildbow> I love my stuff, but I think it's tripe.
307409:44 <Jon> New stuff is brilliant.
307509:44 <Jon> Old stuff...
307609:44 — Jon shudders.
307709:44 <Jon> I've put things into words that never should have.
307809:44 — apoc grins
307909:44 <•Wildbow> What genre?
308009:44 <•Mishie> Jon: Abjuration
308109:44 <Jon> Wildbow: Whatever takes my fancy.
308209:44 <•Mishie> ;)
308309:44 <Nae`cloud> Jon writes smut
308409:44 <O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
308509:44 <Nae`cloud> blushy, no
308609:44 <•Mishie> god
308709:44 <O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
308809:44 <Vereorskool> Blushy, no
308909:44 <O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
309009:44 <•Mishie> at least you're not as bad
309109:44 <•Wildbow> I wish I could write smut
309209:44 <•Mishie> As Shezza and Denarian
309309:44 <Jon> I mainly do fanfiction because playing on someone elses sandbox is easier than making your own.
309409:44 — Vereorskool remembers the Smutment
309509:45 <•Mishie> the cringe is just amazing whenever anybody mentions it
309609:45 <Jon> Lol.
309709:45 <Elara> and I got into Phil Sandifer because I am a nerd and he was writing interestingly on Dr Who
309809:45 <Jon> It was great at the time.
309909:45 <Elara> so it's all a bit circular
310009:45 <•Wildbow> On all the writing boards, people talk about how smut is the way to financial success as a writer
310109:45 <Jon> But you can't even force Shez to look at Denarian.
310209:45 <Jon> Uh.
310309:45 <Jon> yes and no.
310409:45 <keyonte0> I'm almost certain a complete idiot is response for creating Facebook's report categories.
310509:45 <Nae`cloud> latest Dr Who was awesome
310609:45 <•Wildbow> Or they do the novel thing and smut on the side to pay the bills.
310709:45 <Jon> Smut is easy money.
310809:45 <•Wildbow> ^
310909:45 <Jon> But if you get linked to it you get tarnished.
311009:45 <Elara> key they don't want to get reports
311109:45 <Elara> that would be work
311209:46 <Jon> Elara yep.
311309:46 <keyonte0> In general it's remarkable how incompetent Facebook is at moderating their site.
311409:46 <Jon> FB's DMCA is a joke.
311509:46 <Roarian2> meanwhile 50 shades is a glorified smutty fanfic which somehow manages to be a household name
311609:46 <Roarian2> 'o.o
311709:46 <Jon> Feh.
311809:46 <Jon> 50 Shades.
311909:46 <Jon> Started as a twilight fanfic
312009:46 <Jon> and was repurposed.
312109:46 <Roarian2> one of those dreadful AU fanfics
312209:46 <apoc> But
312309:46 <apoc> Buuuut
312409:46 <Jon> Literally all she did was ctrl f replace the names.
312509:46 <Roarian2> where only the names are kept
312609:46 <keyonte0> Which was about a self-insert's romance with a Mary Sue.
312709:47 <keyonte0> Noticing a trend, here?
312809:47 <apoc> Jon can't even use persona non grata correctly
312909:47 <apoc> jeez
313009:47 <Nae`cloud> oh
313109:47 <keyonte0> Those teenager writing those awful fanfics seem to have the right idea about what sells.
313209:47 <Nae`cloud> has she replied
313309:47 <Nae`cloud> happyg?
313409:48 <•Mishie> One Day
313509:48 <O\\\O> hey
313609:48 <Jon> lol apoc.
313709:48 <Nae`cloud> Aww
313809:48 <O\\\O> 50 shades was more than a glorified smutfic
313909:48 <Jon> That actually gave me pause.
314009:48 <Nae`cloud> regardless of the overly pedantic stuff in her post
314109:48 <Jon> and I had to check if I did use it incorrectly.
314209:48 <Roarian2> keyonte, a lot of published fiction is much shittier than people suspect because only the good stuff gets the recognition
314309:48 <apoc> it was the surety in her tone
314409:48 <Elara> a lot of published fiction is genuinely shite
314509:48 <Nae`cloud> I wanted her to stick around
314609:48 <Nae`cloud> but damn Tenages and Xiph in that thread tho
314709:49 <Roarian2> most of them are decent in terms of spelling and grammar, compared to fanfic
314809:49 <O\\\O> it was the distilled glorified smutfic of a bunch of fans, mixing in popular fanon and headcanon and making a lot of fans really happy
314909:49 <Roarian2> but there's a lot of bad plotting going on
315009:49 <Ched> ^
315109:49 <O\\\O> until she took it and changed the names and sold it
315209:49 <Nae`cloud> tbh
315309:49 <panth> Oh, lord.
315409:49 <apoc> and then sometimes you get Menace
315509:49 <O\\\O> cutting out the fandom entirely
315609:49 <panth> Elara: write Worm/ My Immortal
315709:50 <apoc> who somehow churns out 30+ pages of story without a single typo
315809:50 <Roarian2> in which Taylor is a goff
315909:50 <Roarian2> ?
316009:50 <panth> "My name is Tay'lor De'mentia Dark'ness Way"
316109:50 <Elara> panth nobody deserves that
316209:50 <apoc> the 13-year old abomination
316309:50 <Elara> not even you
316409:50 <panth> "...IT WAS ARMSMASTER!!!"
316509:50 <Roarian2> *Raven Way
316609:50 <Roarian2> get it right
316709:50 <O\\\O> i put up my middle finger at him 
316809:50 <panth> Yes yes that
316909:51 <panth> Would be great
317009:51 <Roarian2> the undersiders are now a rock group who all took edgy names instead of their canon ones
317109:51 <panth> The Prepbringers
317209:51 <panth> They h8 Goffton Bay
317309:52 <Roarian2> Jack or someone would just wander in on occasion and talk in ye olde english
317409:52 <Roarian2> I hath telekinesis
317509:52 <panth> Ye olde /butcherede/ Ynglyshe
317609:53 <•Wildbow> Fun fact.  The Y in Ye was pronounced 'Th'.
317709:53 <•Wildbow> 'Ye old butcher shop' is said the same way as The old butcher shop
317809:54 <Ched> I didn't know that.
317909:54 <Ched> Cool
318009:54 <Elara> it's an Anglo-Saxon letter called Thorn, that just looks kinda like y
318109:55 <panth> Something like how they wrote "s" to look like "f"
318209:55 <panth> And fo you got ftrange-looking fpellings, fometimes
318309:58 <Jon> my Immortal was a masterpiece
318409:58 <Jon> almost better than..
318509:59 <Jon> https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8181390/1/Doom-Repercussions-of-Evil-Repost
318609:59 <panth> ...Sanic?
318709:59 <Jon> This is a repost of the original master piece.
318809:59 <•Wildbow> Gotta go fast sanic?
318909:59 <Nae`cloud> My Original
319009:59 <Nae`cloud> Immortal even
319109:59 <Nae`cloud> so great
319209:59 <Nae`cloud> can never forget
319310:00 <Nae`cloud> I wonder what the author of My Immortal thinks of their work now.
319410:00 <Nae`cloud> especially given its fame
319510:01 <Jon> All as planned.
319610:01 <keyonte0> I think part of the appeal of bad fiction is that the typical reader resonates more with something that they probable could've written.
319710:01 <•Wildbow> Was My Immortal intentionally bad or was it just the stars aligning right?
319810:01 <keyonte0> I feel the same way about music.
319910:02 <apoc> We'll never truly know 
320010:02 <•Wildbow> I was under the impression people weren't certain
320110:02 <Nae`cloud> It was one of those things that was probably really written by a 13 year old girl Wildbow 
320210:02 <Jon> No one is certain even now.
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320410:02 <Nae`cloud> but given the quality 
320510:02 <Nae`cloud> you really do wonder
320610:03 <Klackerz> hmm New server
320710:03 <Nae`cloud> surely nobody is that bad unless it's intentional 
320810:03 <Jon> That's why it was amazing.
320910:03 <Jon> Klackerz sorry buddy.
321010:03 <keyonte0> My Immortal felt WAYY to stereotypicallly bad.
321110:03 <Jon> it's the [No Klackerzs] Club.
321210:03 <Jon> They already have a Klackerz...
321310:03 <Klackerz> wut
321410:03 <Nae`cloud> yeah
321510:03 <•Mishie> mhm
321610:03 <Nae`cloud> they wanted a Klackerz but you're not good enough
321710:03 <Klackerz> WHAT
321810:04 <Jon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbXjt_ZlVOE <- reference
321910:04 <keyonte0> I don't thing it's possible for a writer to do damn near every fucking thing wrong like My Immortal did.
322010:04 <Nae`cloud> ugh
322110:04 <•Wildbow> Can you really have too many klackerz?
322210:04 <Nae`cloud> can we get GlaDoS in here now
322310:04 <Klackerz> One is more than enough Wildbow XD
322410:04 <Nae`cloud> I hate clicking on links without looking at the title and GlaDoS is really handy for that
322510:04 <Jon> It's a simpsons clip
322610:04 <Jon> from the episode 'No Homers'
322710:05 <apoc> keynote0 I'm not sure if you've really read enough fanfiction if you think that
322810:05 <Jon> Homer joins that secret society and takes over, only for everyone to leave after he decides to use the position for good.
322910:05 <keyonte0> Oh I've read plenty.
323010:06 <keyonte0> And even the worst fanfics I've read manage to not fuck up at EVERY turn.
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323510:08 <Jon> I disagree.
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323710:08 <apoc> You've never met Minion, I take it
323810:08 <Jon> Minion is the Master of finding badfics.
323910:09 — panth read a Dwarf Fortress/Worm crossover yesterday
324010:09 <Vereorskool> ^
324110:09 <panth> It wasn't... bad, just odd
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324610:23 <krahe> hey
324710:23 <Ched> ohai
324810:23 <Elara> who'm be Ched?
324910:24 <•Wildbow> Ched be a righteous DLPer
325010:24 <Ched> ? I'm Ched. I say "hi" to people who hi
325110:24 <Ched> :D
325210:24 <•Wildbow> Sorry to out you, Ched.
325310:24 <Ched> I never hid it, any of the other times I was in here.
325410:24 <Elara> are you from Cheddar?
325510:24 <Ched> Ched = Cheddar = CheddarTrek
325610:24 <Ched> I have a craptastic internet connection.
325710:25 <Ched> So I DC a lot and come back as an alter-ego.
325810:25 <•Wildbow> Oh, whoops, got my channels turned around.  Had new parahumans to the left and parahumans <2> here.  Bah.
325910:25 <Ched> Haha
326010:25 <Ched> Oh, thought I'd popped over to the new IRC? Probably won't, least not til I've started reading.
326110:26 <•Wildbow> Fair enough
326210:26 <Ched> :)
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326810:44 <•Wildbow> Turning in.  G'night, guys.
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327310:52 <Yak> &Wildbow: Ched be a righteous DLPer
327410:52 <Yak> hahahaha
327510:52 <Yak> when did wildbow turn rastafarian
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328010:58 <Elara> I think he was responding to my use of language, in saying "who'm be Ched"
328110:59 <Nae`cloud> Rastafarian 
328210:59 <Nae`cloud> Targaryen 
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328911:54 <•Clarvel> Skrattybones: check teh toic
329011:54 <•Clarvel> or perhaps u already ahve
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330612:48 <Chono|Class> o7
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331212:57 <krahe> sometime it really hard with modern techno to distinct when it's a musical technique and when it just my computer being laggy
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331412:59 <krahe> oh damn, I entered the stage where I complain about modern music...
331513:04 <jellysnake> Dun dun daa
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332213:21 <krahe> fallout 4, it taunts me
332313:21 <krahe> taunts
332413:21 <krahe> 33 days left
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