· 7 years ago · Jun 11, 2018, 07:16 PM
117:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok louis
217:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we need to talk now
317:48 - *Louis*: about?
417:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: just GFL in general
517:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'm not for or against you
617:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but this 'arguement/fued/fight/war/discussion' in the management needs to stop
717:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and I can help, ok?
817:49 - *Louis*: you need to see it from my point of view
917:49 - *Louis*: each day i wake up and another "full council" meeting has occurred for which i was not present
1017:49 - *Louis*: and when i make a reasonable suggestion such as
1117:49 - *Louis*: "can we please discuss this on the forums instead?"
1217:50 - *Louis*: i'm shot down with pathetic excuses like "no we needed to do it now" and "it was a full council meeting... you just were asleep"
1317:50 - *Louis*: and then changes are made that break the buttery merge agreement
1417:50 - *Louis*: and i fume
1517:50 - *Louis*: and everyone looks at me like im the bad guy
1617:50 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I don't know who rejected your forum suggestion because I wasn't present
1717:51 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but I'll explain eveerything to you
1817:51 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok?
1917:51 - *Louis*: i dont want explanation, i want inclusion in discussion
2017:51 - *Louis*: the only way that can possibly happen
2117:51 - *Louis*: is if the forums are used for their proper purpose
2217:51 - *Louis*: and everyone slows the fuck down
2317:51 - *Louis*: and stops rushing things
2417:51 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok fine
2517:51 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll make a thread right now
2617:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I see that it is unfair for you
2717:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok?
2817:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but before that
2917:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I need to tal kto you
3017:52 - *Louis*: dont bother making the thread, i've nearly finished writing my resignation
3117:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: You're not giving me a chance to put this right
3217:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: or the rest of us
3317:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the meetings were held in an emergency-like state
3417:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we don't see you as the bad guy
3517:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we just don't like some of the things you are doing
3617:53 - *Louis*: can you please explain to me how a meeting to purchase a >$200/month dedicated server was needed as an emergency?
3717:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that wasn't what it was about
3817:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that's just what bagel came to talk to you about
3917:54 - *Louis*: and can you explain to me why it was so urgent that i supply $50 for a minecraft server that both the owners of the clan (roy and I) did not agree on purchasing?
4017:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that's not the urgent thing
4117:55 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: listen
4217:55 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and answer when i'm done
4317:55 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: What would you prefer if you was in a council
4417:55 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Each major decision being made behind the scenes with only the leaders discussing
4517:56 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Or having the council actually be a council and chip in the dicussion
4617:56 - *Louis*: 2nd option
4717:56 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and the majoirt/unanimous vote being passed/
4817:56 - *Louis*: ahh but you see
4917:56 - *Louis*: there lies the problem
5017:56 - *Louis*: because
5117:56 - *Louis*: you guys vote
5217:56 - *Louis*: and i wake up the next day
5317:57 - *Louis*: it's already fucking voted on... i dont get to add my 2 cents
5417:57 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Don't resign
5517:57 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok?
5617:57 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll guide everyone through this
5717:57 - *Louis*: i work in the hosting industry... i know how servers work... when you guys vote on upgrading a server that doesnt actually need upgrading... i get shitty
5817:57 - *Louis*: because it's a waste of money
5917:57 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'm just doing everything to help GFL
6017:57 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
6117:58 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well can you move the proposal thread out of louis' trashbin
6217:58 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and put it back in the council sectionb
6317:59 - *Louis*: i dont see the point... as long as toast is one of the leaders he will always get his way because he's made friends with the entire council and turned most of them against me even though he doesnt realise it
6417:59 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Look
6517:59 - *Louis*: my voice can no-longer be heard
6617:59 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Don't resign
6717:59 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll fix this
6817:59 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok?
6917:59 - *Louis*: the past few days have been so shit for me that i'm in a state of semi-depression
7017:59 - *Louis*: this clan is not fun for me
7117:59 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I know
7217:59 - *Louis*: it's shit
7318:00 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I've read the chat logs
7418:00 - *Louis*: if i could, i'd get rid of buttery and put it back to how it was
7518:00 - *Louis*: but
7618:00 - *Louis*: tbh
7718:00 - *Louis*: that'll kill it more
7818:00 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: listen louis
7918:00 - *Louis*: so if i resign it isnt my problem
8018:00 - *Louis*: and i can move on
8118:00 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: please don't resign
8218:00 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we all want what's best for GFL and ourselves
8318:01 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I can't handle both you, roy and toast all being upset over this
8418:01 - *Louis*: ok, well i wont resign if the following conditions are met:
8518:01 - *Louis*: 1:
8618:01 - *Louis*: council meetings/discussions/whatever cannot be held on steam, they must be done in the forums where all of the council can see them and be able to respond at any time of the day or night
8718:02 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yup
8818:02 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: what else?
8918:04 - *Louis*: 2: my aim is not to create a dictatorship, but more of something like POTUS has with the US Millitary... but in this case it would be shared between roy and me.... The owner role is to be reinstated and will be used as an EMERGENCY backup that can only be used if both roy and I are in agreement... this is only to be able to put an end to future disputes that go on for too long and remain unresolved
9018:04 - *Louis*: i think that's reasonable
9118:05 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: But louis, the owner thing does suggest some form of power-greediness
9218:05 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: having the simple 'leader' title would be fine
9318:05 - *Louis*: the problem is though
9418:05 - *Louis*: toast broke the terms of the merge agreement and we now have too many leaders
9518:05 - *Louis*: we have 6 leaders
9618:05 - *Louis*: there's MASSIVE room for dispute
9718:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: toast,bread,you,phone,roy
9818:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: 5
9918:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :/
10018:06 - *Louis*: viper
10118:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: oh right
10218:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: lol
10318:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that's fine
10418:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: you can all do wonders for GFL
10518:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: And you all know it
10618:06 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: you all believe in eachother
10718:07 - *Louis*: i disagree... it's a deadly mix of people (including myself) that have large egos and voices... a single disagreement will start a war
10818:07 - *Louis*: as has been evident over the last few days
10918:07 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well
11018:07 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: form me perspective
11118:07 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the war is over all the power you have compared to everypone
11218:07 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: even roy
11318:07 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: from my perspective*
11418:08 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and
11518:08 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we all want to be sure
11618:08 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that the database/money/servers are in good hands
11718:08 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: so is all leaders have access to the resources
11818:08 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we can be sure in all of you
11918:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: because in the council right now, we all trust you
12018:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yes people are against you because of toast's popularity
12118:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but
12218:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: If they see your side of it
12318:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: they can empathise
12418:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Don't resign
12518:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: trust me
12618:09 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: one thing
12718:10 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I want EVERY decision to be via majority vote in the council AND leaders
12818:10 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: also the resources should be in the hands of all of the leaders
12918:10 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: if you 6 learn to be friends with eachother
13018:10 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: GFL will progress massively
13118:10 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and also
13218:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: disrespect within the council is ok, but making eachother feel shitty isn't
13318:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: stuff like that will call for a vote within the leaders
13418:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: is that fair?
13518:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well disrespect isn't the right word
13618:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: disrespect is never ok
13718:11 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: more like negative opinions
13818:12 - *Louis*: it's 10 past 2 in the morning for me, i need to give this some thought and make an appropriate decision when i'm less fatigued.
13918:12 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok sure
14018:12 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but stay with GFL for now, k?
14118:12 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: delete your resignation
14218:12 - *Louis*: for now, sure
14318:12 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I would truly hate for you to go
14418:12 - *Louis*: lol i havent posted it yet
14518:12 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I know
14618:13 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but delete the notepad file
14718:13 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :P
14818:13 - *Louis*: nah i hang on to that for now ;)
14918:13 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: lol k
15018:13 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: remember the fun we had on ze together?
15118:14 - *Louis*: indeed - remember how much more fun it was when there wasn't changes being made to the group every 5 seconds and everyone was able to discuss things at a reasonable pace and decisions werent rushed?
15218:14 - *Louis*: :P
15318:14 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: lol yh
15418:14 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well i have to admit this
15518:14 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I won't lie for respect
15618:14 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I was slightly leaning against you when we had our meeting and wanted some changes, even more when you moved the post
15718:14 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: however
15818:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: when I saw it through your eyes
15918:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and read the log of your chat with toast
16018:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I feel for you
16118:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and this conversation reassures me
16218:15 - *Louis*: thank you
16318:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :)
16418:15 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: SO will you be willing to comprimise for the good of the community?
16518:15 - *Louis*: perhaps, need to think more atm
16618:16 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
16718:16 - *Louis*: because
16818:16 - *Louis*: tbh
16918:16 - *Louis*: if i wake up tomorrow
17018:16 - *Louis*: and hear more crap about me
17118:16 - *Louis*: that isnt true
17218:16 - *Louis*: or is a bad rumour
17318:16 - *Louis*: i'm just gona leave
17418:16 - *Louis*: coz im fed up with it
17518:16 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
17618:16 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll do my best to stop that
17718:16 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :)
17818:16 - *Louis*: heh, thx
17918:16 - *Louis*: umm
18018:17 - *Louis*: i have a question
18118:17 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: sure
18218:17 - *Louis*: how did john become council?
18318:17 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: wut
18418:17 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: WHAT
18518:17 - *Louis*: .john is in the council o.O
18618:17 - *Louis*: see... shit needs to be discussed on the forums
18718:17 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: *sigh*
18818:17 - *Louis*: steam will not, and never will work
18918:17 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: i'll investigate
19018:17 - *Louis*: unless ALL major decisions are made on the forums
19118:18 - *Louis*: and done slowly
19218:18 - *Louis*: shit will only fall downhill
19318:18 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Yes I know, I'm slightly baffled by this
19418:18 - *Louis*: i've run enough clans in my life to know this
19518:18 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I've been in enough to know too
19618:18 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but GFL will not be the type of community that falls
19718:18 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: so
19818:18 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll check this john thing
19918:19 - *Louis*: umm
20018:19 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: because it contradicts alot of the rumours against you
20118:19 - *Louis*: just so you know
20218:19 - *Louis*: about an hour ago
20318:19 - *Louis*: i disabled the AdminCP on the forums coz some dick was playing with the payment records of admins
20418:19 - *Louis*: so im not gona be reenabling that tonight for anyone
20518:19 - *Louis*: leader or otherwise
20618:19 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: haven't you got a log system?
20718:20 - *Louis*: i do, but it's showing viper did it and he doesnt even have access permissions to it (i even went in to his account and checked)
20818:20 - *Louis*: so something's funny
20918:20 - *Louis*: i'll need to look in to it more
21018:20 - *Louis*: before i point fingers
21118:20 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
21218:20 - *Louis*: so please dont mention viper's name
21318:20 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: what was happening in the panel though?
21418:21 - *Louis*: someone tampered with the paypal payment gateway
21518:21 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: have any idea of the purpose?
21618:22 - *Louis*: i could venture a guess but it would probably be a biased guess something along the lines of "they're trying to put money in to a different paypal account so they dont have to rely on mine"
21718:22 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yes
21818:22 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that's exactly right
21918:22 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we were threatened about you leaving
22018:22 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: incase you don't hand back the money
22118:22 - *Louis*: well 2 things
22218:22 - *Louis*: 1) i wouldnt be wanting to leave if i wasnt being treated like dog shit
22318:23 - *Louis*: 2) as per the terms and conditions of admin purchases, the paypal account is entirely owned by me and I can (i'm not obliged to... but im a nice guy) use it for GFL related expences
22418:23 - *Louis*: so there's nothing to "hand back"
22518:23 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: louis
22618:23 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: please
22718:23 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: please
22818:23 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: listen
22918:24 - *Louis*: if im not treated like dog shit, there's no reason for me to leave
23018:24 - *Louis*: you guys keep asking me to listen
23118:24 - *Louis*: but in the end
23218:24 - *Louis*: i get stepped on
23318:24 - *Louis*: over and ober
23418:24 - *Louis*: over*
23518:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'm not trying to step on you
23618:24 - *Louis*: i know YOU arent
23718:24 - *Louis*: but others are
23818:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'm trying to help you and gfl
23918:24 - *Louis*: particularly toast
24018:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok fine
24118:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but
24218:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: please
24318:24 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: change the T&C so that the money is owned by GFL
24418:25 - *Louis*: tbh, I doubt i'm gona make any further decisions before I talk with roy
24518:25 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: if it's owned by you then people will turn on you
24618:25 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: because of the situation
24718:25 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: make it so the paypal account is GFL's
24818:25 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and the leaders have acces
24918:26 - *Louis*: why should i change the paypal account ownership? it's good leverage for me to be able to leave and set up another clan without a leadership team of 6 and a council of over 9000
25018:26 - *Louis*: if u guys dont want me to leave
25118:26 - *Louis*: prove it
25218:26 - *Louis*: quit with the rumours
25318:26 - *Louis*: quit with the trash talk
25418:26 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Ok tell me
25518:26 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: who is trash talking you
25618:26 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that is unacceptable
25718:26 - *Louis*: well
25818:26 - *Louis*: for example
25918:27 - *Louis*: toast's thread complaining about "me deleting the threads"
26018:27 - *Louis*: no one had any proof of me deleting the threads
26118:27 - *Louis*: they could only guess
26218:27 - *Louis*: unless they have proof
26318:27 - *Louis*: they should keep their mouths shut
26418:27 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: roy had proof
26518:27 - *Louis*: that's not possible... the threads arent deleted
26618:27 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: your tashbin
26718:27 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we can't access
26818:27 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: so as far as we're concerned
26918:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: it was deleted
27018:28 - *Louis*: no, i can restore them at any time
27118:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
27218:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and
27318:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the merge agreement
27418:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the council should have had a say
27518:28 - *Louis*: what about it
27618:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: if people can't be trusted
27718:28 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: they shouldnt be council
27818:28 - *Louis*: well yes, looking back i agree with you
27918:29 - *Louis*: and that was a mistake
28018:29 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :)
28118:29 - *Louis*: however
28218:29 - *Louis*: none the less
28318:29 - *Louis*: a merge agreement was entered in to
28418:29 - *Louis*: and it was broken
28518:29 - *Louis*: so u can see why im pissed off
28618:29 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: how about this
28718:29 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we redo the merge
28818:29 - *Louis*: hah, that'll never work
28918:29 - *Louis*: it's already done
29018:30 - *Louis*: unless you have a time machine?
29118:30 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I mean
29218:30 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Scrap the current agreement
29318:30 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and make a enw one
29418:30 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: it'll be for the best
29518:30 - *Louis*: that would be pointless because
29618:30 - *Louis*: if the agreement cant be made
29718:30 - *Louis*: what happens
29818:30 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the agreement can be made
29918:30 - *Louis*: it's not like we can say "well the merge wont go ahead then:
30018:30 - *Louis*: it's already done
30118:31 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: how about this
30218:31 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: When i make the thread
30318:31 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: we can dicuss and change the merge agreement in it
30418:31 - *Louis*: there's no point mate, the merge has been done
30518:31 - *Louis*: it would now be just GFL rules
30618:31 - *Louis*: or policies
30718:31 - *Louis*: not a merge agreement
30818:32 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: redo it
30918:32 - *Louis*: for example
31018:32 - *Louis*: one of the merge terms
31118:32 - *Louis*: was that toast would be the only added leader from buttery
31218:32 - *Louis*: next day i wake up, bread is a leader too
31318:32 - *Louis*: ????????????????????????????????
31418:32 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: hmm
31518:32 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok that is wrong
31618:32 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: please
31718:32 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: take out the technicalities
31818:33 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: redo the agreement
31918:33 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: or atleast change it
32018:33 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: to what we all want
32118:33 - *Louis*: it's not just "technicalities"
32218:33 - *Louis*: it's toast lying thru his teeth
32318:33 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Ok, he did something wrong
32418:33 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but can we put that behind us?
32518:33 - *Louis*: i've spoken to enough people (outside of the council) to now know that toast has done this with countless numbers of other people
32618:33 - *Louis*: he's a backstabber
32718:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: hmm
32818:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well
32918:34 - *Louis*: and
33018:34 - *Louis*: tbh
33118:34 - *Louis*: well
33218:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: If we do it the majority way
33318:34 - *Louis*: actually
33418:34 - *Louis*: i wont say what i was about to say
33518:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: toast won't be able to backstab
33618:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: what was u going to say?
33718:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: just tell me
33818:34 - *Louis*: roy's opinion of him
33918:34 - *Louis*: no, im not gona say it
34018:34 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: roy doesn't like him?
34118:35 - *Louis*: understatement of the century
34218:35 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: roy hates him
34318:35 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but needs his members
34418:35 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ?
34518:35 - *Louis*: well yeh u see that's the problem
34618:35 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: hmm ok
34718:35 - *Louis*: roy's a kid running a clan (and doing a good job if u ask me) and along comes toast and boosts his clan activity A FUCK LOAD
34818:35 - *Louis*: if you were a kid
34918:35 - *Louis*: running a clan
35018:35 - *Louis*: and a guy like that came along
35118:36 - *Louis*: but he was a total asshole afterwards
35218:36 - *Louis*: how would u deal with it?
35318:36 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I see
35418:36 - *Louis*: ur mind would be going back and forth like mad
35518:36 - *Louis*: and i dont blame the guy
35618:36 - *Louis*: he's been agreeing to everything u guys do in council to keep the peace
35718:36 - *Louis*: btw
35818:36 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Just wondering, what asshole things has toast done? Besides bread
35918:36 - *Louis*: if you tell anyone about this conversation
36018:36 - *Louis*: you're dead to me
36118:37 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: this whole conversation?
36218:37 - *Louis*: no, just the roy section of it
36318:37 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
36418:37 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but that's quite harsbh
36518:37 - *Louis*: i discussed these things with roy in confidence with him
36618:37 - *Louis*: and i feel you need to know
36718:37 - *Louis*: but
36818:37 - *Louis*: it doesnt need to be repeated at this stage
36918:38 - *Louis*: and if it does, roy and i will repeat it ourselves
37018:38 - *Louis*: not thru a 3rd party
37118:38 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
37218:38 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: so
37318:38 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: erm
37418:38 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Why does roy dislike toast?
37518:38 - *Louis*: well
37618:38 - *Louis*: for example
37718:38 - *Louis*: and
37818:38 - *Louis*: this is just one example
37918:39 - *Louis*: toast gave the "okay" for gust to go ahead and set up a minecraft server
38018:39 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: who's paying for the MC server?
38118:39 - *Louis*: roy never agreed to an MC server... and the next day gust comes to me and is like... hey man I need $50 for a MC server
38218:40 - *Louis*: so roy and I are liek
38318:40 - *Louis*: o.O
38418:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok yh
38518:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I understand that
38618:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: The MC thing was out of line
38718:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: it contradicts most of the arguments toast had against you
38818:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: however
38918:40 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: if what you say is true
39018:41 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: then roy is playing two siders
39118:41 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: sides*
39218:41 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but probably doesn't know
39318:41 - *Louis*: if you ask toast he will say "but we had a full council meeting on steam at x time with y people and it was agreed that we would get an MC server"
39418:41 - *Louis*: i trust you see my frustration with these steam meetings now?
39518:41 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I don't remeber an agreement for an MC server
39618:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yes I see
39718:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Ok well my voice is heard alot
39818:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: even echoed
39918:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: so I'll tell them to stop the meetings
40018:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: It is extremely unfair on you
40118:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: So this is what will happen
40218:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Ideally
40318:42 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: in the near future
40418:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: The merge agreement will change to what most council+ want
40518:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: You will comprimise some stuff
40618:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: toast will
40718:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: roy will
40818:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and everyone will stop hating eachother
40918:43 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: because
41018:44 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: It does take alot to pull me out of my council position to talk to what i call 'the three leaders'
41118:44 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: you,roy,toast
41218:44 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: leaders of all the merge communities
41318:44 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: shouldn't you all be treated equally?
41418:44 - *Louis*: there's too many leaders for it to possibly work as a full team of 6
41518:44 - *Louis*: see
41618:44 - *Louis*: the thing about clans is
41718:45 - *Louis*: online democracys dont work
41818:45 - *Louis*: well
41918:45 - *Louis*: they can
42018:45 - *Louis*: but
42118:45 - *Louis*: a single dispute
42218:45 - *Louis*: and
42318:45 - *Louis*: it's not like a country
42418:45 - *Louis*: everyone can just leave in an online world
42518:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: mhm
42618:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ok
42718:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well
42818:45 - *Louis*: unless there is a set group of 1-3 people
42918:45 - *Louis*: max
43018:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: if you all have the same accessabilities
43118:45 - *Louis*: it's doomed for failure
43218:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and all disputes are behind the public eye
43318:45 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: then
43418:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the 6 of you can hold together
43518:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: because trying to start an argument will be useless
43618:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: tbh if you ask me
43718:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the council is too big
43818:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: that doesn't mean they're not worthy
43918:46 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but we have to deal with it
44018:47 - *Louis*: see this is another merge agreement term broken... council was to be added to at a later stage, not immediately
44118:47 - *Louis*: and that's why the dispute between me and ph0ne broke out
44218:47 - *Louis*: because he started adding council
44318:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: ah
44418:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I see
44518:47 - *Louis*: and added bread as leader
44618:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yh
44718:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Well
44818:47 - *Louis*: see i had this all planned out
44918:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Since we have got to know the council
45018:47 - *Louis*: to work perfectly
45118:47 - *Louis*: yet procedure was not followed
45218:47 - *Louis*: and shit hit the fan
45318:47 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yh
45418:48 - *Louis*: as it always does when procedure is not followed
45518:48 - *Louis*: i've made the mistake too many times in previous clans
45618:48 - *Louis*: i was determined to not let it happen here
45718:48 - *Louis*: but it was too late
45818:48 - *Louis*: the damage was done
45918:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: yh
46018:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: well
46118:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the only thing that can happen
46218:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: is that we redo the agreement together
46318:48 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: and cut out any fighting
46418:49 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: the fighting and back-talk and all that is tearing all of us apart
46518:49 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I had no idea that the problem was this deep-set
46618:50 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: but it can still be fixed
46718:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: Everyone keeps their position, the rules in council and leaders are made very strict, stepping out of line too many times will result in a vote for your fate The merge agreement is changed, any form of back-talk is stricly prohibited.
46818:52 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: this is turning too much into a stereotypical american highschool
46918:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: thoughts?
47018:53 - *Louis*: will be provided tomorrow
47118:53 - *Louis*: it's nearly 3AM
47218:53 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: going to bed?
47318:54 - *Louis*: indeed, i have work tomorrow and my eyes are dry from having aircon blasted at them while looking at a computer screen in a dark room
47418:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: lol ok
47518:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: goodnight mate
47618:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: :)
47718:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: I'll handle this while you're gone
47818:54 - Hunter/Zombiephobia/Knife: as much as I can