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21<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand</div>
22<div>3 08 2006</div>
23<div>photo-Victoria Times Colonist</div>
24<div>Neal Hall, VANCOUVER SUNPublished: Wednesday, July 05, 2006</div>
25<div>A Victoria woman is in jail in Chiang Mai, Thailand, accused of f<span></span>atally shooting her American common-law husband,</div>
26<div>George Patrick Dubie, a cult-like figure who at one time lived in<span></span> a lavish waterfront estate in Hawaii.</div>
27<div>Margaret Crane, 48, was arrested by Thai police after she alleged<span></span>ly shot Dubie three times in the chest with a .38 revolver,</div>
28<div>then fled in a car. She was later apprehended by police.</div>
29<div>She faces the death penalty if convicted of premeditated murder.</div>
30<div>The Bangkok Post reported that Crane told police that Dubie, 56, <span></span>was abusive and occasionally hit her and their five</div>
31<div>children. She said the situation had worsened after Dubie became <span></span>involved with a local Thai woman.</div>
32<div>The shooting reportedly took place after a heated argument at a r<span></span>estaurant in downtown Chiang Mai, about 580 kilometres</div>
33<div>north of Bangkok.</div>
34<div>Dubie, who used the first name Daniel, was described as a freelan<span></span>ce journalist who had also worked for the United Nations</div>
35<div>in the aftermath of the 2004 tsunami.</div>
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43<div>He had attracted controversy and police attention in the past. Du<span></span>bie was at one time wanted in connection with a theft ring</div>
44<div>in Hawaii, where he lived on a $1.7-million waterfront mansion.</div>
45<div>An associate of Dubie named Jon Onuma, also known as Jade Yoshino<span></span>, previously lived at the home and was a person of</div>
46<div>interest in the mysterious disappearance of a North Carolina woma<span></span>n named Kristen Modafferi, who vanished in 1997 from</div>
47<div>San Francisco.</div>
48<div>The case was featured on an episode of the TV program America’s M<span></span>ost Wanted and is detailed on a website:</div>
49<div>www.findkristen.com.</div>
50<div>“Daniel Dubie is a modern day Charles Manson and Jim Jones,” the <span></span>website says. “He literally goes around the world</div>
51<div>telling people he is Jesus and actually convinces them to give hi<span></span>m millions of dollars.”</div>
52<div>Dennis Mahon, who runs the website to generate tips about the cas<span></span>e and is a friend of the family of the missing woman, said</div>
53<div>Dubie was born in Santa Barbara and married millionaire Geri Cvit<span></span>anovich, a co-founder of the Herbalife company, which</div>
54<div>sells health and weight-loss products.</div>
55<div>For many years, Dubie lived at his wife’s waterfront home outside<span></span> Honolulu near Diamond Head. After Dubie and</div>
56<div>Cvitanovich divorced, he was rumoured to have been married to a n<span></span>umber of women.</div>
57<div>“He supposedly has 17 children,” Mahon said. “He lived in B.C. fo<span></span>r a while. I’ve known he was in Thailand for a couple of</div>
58<div>years. He ran a holistic spa in Chiang Mai.”</div>
59<div>Dubie and Onuma also made a film about a conference of world reli<span></span>gious leaders meeting in Bangkok in 2002.</div>
60<div>“I know Dubie has about 10 aliases,” Mahon said. An article from <span></span>a Honolulu newspaper, located on Mahon’s website, said</div>
61<div>Dubie was also known Sean Dubie, David Hart, Keoki Dubie, Christian Hart and Frances LaRue.</div>
62<div>The 1983 article was about a man who sued Dubie, claiming he was <span></span>brainwashed, psychologically tortured and physically</div>
63<div>beaten with a tennis racquet by Dubie to prove he was a “warrior.”</div>
64<div>Mahon said he received an e-mail Tuesday from a man in Thailand w<span></span>ho believes the woman who shot Dubie was named</div>
65<div>Gina Hart, which may have been an alias of Margaret Crane.</div>
66<div>Pamela Greenwell, a spokesman with Foreign Affairs in Ottawa, sai<span></span>d Tuesday that Canadian consular staff in Thailand have</div>
67<div>visited Crane in jail but further information could not be releas<span></span>ed because of the Privacy Act.</div>
68<div>She could not comment on whether Crane had used the name Hart bef<span></span>ore she arrested in Chiang Mai.</div>
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86<div>Categories : <span>George Patrick Dubie</span>, <span>Jeanna Hart</span>, <span>Margaret Crane</span>, <span>cults</span>, <span>International<span></span><span>, <span>Women</span></span></span></div>
87<div>274 responses to “Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand”</div>
88<div>8 08 2006</div>
89<div>Robin Sharan<span> <span>(00:22:53)</span> :</span></div>
90<div>My name is Robin Sharan and I am the owner and founder of The Annapurna Center for Self Healing in Port</div>
91<div>Townsend,Washington.</div>
92<div>I knew these people from 11 years ago when Margaret made arrangem<span></span>ents for Daniel to participate in The Annapurna</div>
93<div>Center for Self Healing. She did everything in her power to help him to heal of very serious conditions. He had had</div>
94<div>brain injuries when he had been in a coma for four months and wou<span></span>ld come to The Annapurna to recuperate. He</div>
95<div>likened himself to the central characters of the films, Powder an<span></span>d Phenomenon. He could be very charming and he</div>
96<div>was extremely intuitive and psychic so he could influence people <span></span>with his very persuasive manner.</div>
97<div>For payment for Daniel’s Annapurna stays Margaret created The Ele<span></span>gant Simplicity of Reflexology,a 101 minute</div>
98<div>video on the benefits of the ancient Egyptian art of compression <span></span>massage on the feet.</div>
99<div>Margaret was totally devoted to Daniel and he was the father to a<span></span>ll their beautiful children. He was of Saudi Arabian</div>
100<div>and Swedish descent and over time, I observed that he treated wom<span></span>en with decidedly less than excellent behavior.</div>
101<div>Margaret was always exhausting herself to please him and was rare<span></span>ly if ever honored for her devotion to Daniel and</div>
102<div>dedication to her children. All their children are amazingly ador<span></span>able,kind, and very bright which is testimony enough</div>
103<div>for the dedication of Margaret Crane to her family. I understand <span></span>that there was severe abuse committed by Daniel and</div>
104<div>that that could have been the very thing that caused Margaret to <span></span>prevent it from ever happening again. She was only</div>
105<div>protecting her children from abuse. It is only reasonable that sh<span></span>e be set free to take care of her children. Please have</div>
106<div>mercy on the children, set Margaret Crane free to raise her child<span></span>ren.</div>
107<div>I lost touch with them in the beginning of the year 2000.</div>
108<div>Again, Margaret Crane deserves to be set free to take care of her<span></span> children.</div>
109<div>8 08 2006</div>
110<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(00:47:05)</span> :</span></div>
111<div>Thank you Robin for your post, I am sure it will mean a lot to Ma<span></span>rgaret’s family to read those words, if they ever get</div>
112<div>to see them.</div>
113<div>I’ve been doing some research into Daniel’s past and he certainly<span></span> seems like a nightmare who has a knack for meeting</div>
114<div>lovely women. What you describe fits with other first hand accoun<span></span>ts I’ve encountered through media sources.</div>
115<div>I’ll be following this story, and will be adding more links and a<span></span>rticles in the coming days to what I’ve learned. I invite</div>
116<div>you to visit any time to read, or comment, or even leave messages<span></span> of support to the Crane family if you so wish.</div>
117<div>I do hope your wishes for Margaret Crane and her children comes t<span></span>o pass.</div>
118<div>Take care.</div>
119<div>Hazel.</div>
120<div>14 08 2006</div>
121<div>personal prosperity int.<span> <span>(16:28:57)</span> :</span></div>
122<div>Dearest Ms. Robin Sharan, (and Hazel) 8/14/06</div>
123<div>Hello! I have just read your brief letter and personal opinion/ob<span></span>servation of George “Daniel” Dubie. I want to let you</div>
124<div>know that I sincerely respect your honest observations. Although,<span></span> I must say I too knew the Dubie’s/people on a</div>
125<div>personal and professional level and the fact is Margaret”Jeana” C<span></span>rane was one of Daniel’s followers and she was not</div>
126<div>a very stable and grounded woman emotionally and mentally. Margar<span></span>et created this situation for herself and nobody</div>
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134<div>else. She is responsible for her actions. Daniel was never physic<span></span>ally abusive to this woman and Despite what you</div>
135<div>think and know, and read all the gossip about Mr. Dubie. Mr. Dubi<span></span>e was a very well respected man in our community</div>
136<div>and did wonderful things for the people especially children around the world. Those children that margaret claim to</div>
137<div>be Daniel’s are not so/true. The five children were invitro ferta<span></span>lized, and the eldest daughter Angie Cruz was from a</div>
138<div>man from margaret’s past. Afterall, Margaret was a lesbian. Let i<span></span>t be known that margaret and Daniel were never a</div>
139<div>couple, although Margaret felt otherwise. Margaret was not Daniel<span></span>s type of woman at all. Thus In all fairness to the</div>
140<div>Dubie family and Ms. Crane let the facts be known. Margaret shoul<span></span>d pay for the crime that she committed. The laws</div>
141<div>should be obeyed and respected at any country one person is at. Thank you very much.</div>
142<div>15 08 2006</div>
143<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(18:50:26)</span> :</span></div>
144<div>Dear Hazel and Sharan,</div>
145<div>I believe the post above is writen by an ex-wife of Daniel. These are the stories that I knew he told her. This is the</div>
146<div>situation that he orchestrated for her to believe. However, caref<span></span>ul consideration of the great body of factual evidence</div>
147<div>and testimony of folks that actually knew him does not support he<span></span>r one-sided “Daniel-as-a-misunderstood-saint”</div>
148<div>account.</div>
149<div>Daniel had two very different behaviour patterns and was not an “emotionally grounded”, universally respected</div>
150<div>individual; he was eratic, constantly on the move, with more dome<span></span>stic situations than is almost imaginable, a</div>
151<div>convicted felon who served time in a correctional facility in Oah<span></span>u. He has a long history of various cons that is well</div>
152<div>documented. His attempts with other’s help and money to white was<span></span>h his image did not change his basic behaviour</div>
153<div>pattern. He consistently claimed that all the women that reported<span></span> his abuse were “emotionally unstable, crazy” etc.</div>
154<div>This is the classic response of men who carry on double lives.</div>
155<div>He was not arabic. He did not have a brain tumor. He claimed to m<span></span>e to have a brain tumor and presented me with a</div>
156<div>CAT scan. I believed his story that because he was muslim he coul<span></span>d not get conventional treatments. I found the same</div>
157<div>brain tumor image while searching the internet. He just downloade<span></span>d and printed it on a fake hospital form and</div>
158<div>pretended to be ill. When I confronted him with this fraud he adm<span></span>itted it and begged me to realize that it was the</div>
159<div>depth of his love for me that motivated him to do this. He was ve<span></span>ry skilled at motivating folks to do for him out of</div>
160<div>compassion.</div>
161<div>This is just one of his endless antics.</div>
162<div>Jeana on the other hand was devoted to him for over 20 years desp<span></span>ite all the other women and marriages.</div>
163<div>Unfortunately, there is court testimony from a woman that Jeana f<span></span>acilitated some of his cons.</div>
164<div>This is a complex case. Daniel had a brilliant and loving mind ca<span></span>pable of great things that is certainly true. He also</div>
165<div>had a long history of using his charisma to abuse and intimidate <span></span>others- physically, emotionally and otherwise. Those</div>
166<div>that loved him hoped that his bad pattern of deciet and lies woul<span></span>d end and that he would focus on his true gifts. I also</div>
167<div>mourn his loss and believe that laws should be respected and obey<span></span>ed. It is out of a deep and abiding love for this</div>
168<div>individual that I am utterly committed to truth- something that w<span></span>oefully he did not hold dear.</div>
169<div>http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=855e1764173afae5b258d07<span></span>77c562ada&amp;showtopic=74720</div>
170<div>20 08 2006</div>
171<div>Personal prosperity Int.<span> <span>(19:11:35)</span> :</span></div>
172<div>Dearest Hawaiian Eyes and others,</div>
173<div>I highly suggest you seek psychiatrict treatment…You are an EXTRE<span></span>MELY obssessed woman with Mr.Dubie.</div>
174<div>Please seek professional counseling. It will do you very well.. Thank you very much for your sincere time and</div>
175<div>thoughful consideration. Please leave Mr. Dubie and his family al<span></span>one…Do you have any respect?</div>
176<div>21 08 2006</div>
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184<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(09:36:31)</span> :</span></div>
185<div>Wow, personal property, you are certainly making a lot of assumpt<span></span>ions, especially about the “others” you include in</div>
186<div>this little rant.</div>
187<div>You ask about respect? How about the things you said about ex wife number x? Martgaret Crane, or worse what you</div>
188<div>said about her CHILDREN! They aren’t really Dubie’s because they were the result of insemination? Do my blog</div>
189<div>readers really need to know the manner of which these beautiful c<span></span>hildren were concieved, even if true? Or how about</div>
190<div>negating their parantage simply beacuse science had a helping han<span></span>d in their conception?</div>
191<div>Shame on you!</div>
192<div>You have every right to be upset over the death of the man you love, if you are who Hawain eyes thinks you are, but</div>
193<div>to slam the innocent children is intolerable. If you should retur<span></span>n to this blog, please keep this in mind, I will not</div>
194<div>tolerate the defimation of children on this site.</div>
195<div>Thank you.</div>
196<div>21 08 2006</div>
197<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(12:46:28)</span> :</span></div>
198<div>“DEAREST” personalprosperity,</div>
199<div>First let me make it clear to you that I “Thank you very much for<span></span> your sincere time and thoughtful consideration”.</div>
200<div>I agree with Hazel, WOW. I do not have any personal beef with you<span></span>. I am not going to presume to know you your</div>
201<div>state of mental health or cumulative trauma. But your skirts can <span></span>not hide the truth. What I wrote is factual and</div>
202<div>absolutely accurate. Attacking my mental health is a bizarre dive<span></span>rsion.</div>
203<div>I am going to speak freely as the WWW allows us all citizens of t<span></span>he world a voice within the guidelines of decency</div>
204<div>and etiquette.</div>
205<div>As my previous post shows GPD did not show me or my family respec<span></span>t. I will not go into that further here.</div>
206<div>There was a real pattern of intimidation and ostracization that f<span></span>ollowed my reports of his behaviour to me. Sadly to</div>
207<div>say, I see that same pattern repeated in your email to Hawaiianey<span></span>es and others. Hawaiianeyes is not one entity. There</div>
208<div>are many authors that can attest to what “I” have written.</div>
209<div>Please go on with your life and pursuit of “personal prosperity”. You have succeeded in that pursuit most remarkably.</div>
210<div>For my part I value the peace that comes from finding and holding<span></span> what is true in a spirit of love.</div>
211<div>Aloha</div>
212<div>21 08 2006</div>
213<div>Robin Sharan<span> <span>(20:43:05)</span> :</span></div>
214<div>For the sake of those beautiful and sweet children,</div>
215<div>I hope and pray that all who are concerned would help to extricat<span></span>e Margaret Crane from Thailand and bring her back</div>
216<div>to Canada to be exonerated from her ‘crime’ of killing in self de<span></span>fense and bring her back to her children to care for</div>
217<div>them. He was the one with the gun, she was able to get it and he <span></span>told her if she had the guts then she could shoot. She</div>
218<div>always obeyed his wishes and in the heat of the moment I believe <span></span>both were temporarily insane and she shot him.</div>
219<div>Margaret was not a lesbian. Margaret loved him more than life its<span></span>elf and I feel that she needs to get out of jail and</div>
220<div>take care of her children. Her punishment will be that of living <span></span>with herself.</div>
221<div>The children need to come first.</div>
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229<div>In Brazil, as in many other places on this earth, a man can kill <span></span>his wife, plead temporary insanity or whatever and</div>
230<div>never get charged.</div>
231<div>The woman could be not pretty enough,have not enough money, want <span></span>to work outside the home, have an extra marital</div>
232<div>affair and these are all valid reasons to kill her. I do not cond<span></span>one the killing, I just want to bring some kind of</div>
233<div>perspective to this situation. Free Margaret Crane and let her ta<span></span>ke care of her children.</div>
234<div>25 08 2006</div>
235<div>CAROL<span> <span>(10:31:18)</span> :</span></div>
236<div>have the police questioned Margaret Crane (not her real name) abo<span></span>ut kristen modafferi?</div>
237<div>george dubie was an evil person.</div>
238<div>25 08 2006</div>
239<div>Personal Prosperity Internaitonal<span> <span>(14:04:29)</span> :</span></div>
240<div>Hello Robin!</div>
241<div>Margaret’s five children were definitely in-vitro fertilized at a<span></span> medical center. Lilly Crane on Oahu and the rest</div>
242<div>elsewhere. These are not Mr. Dubie’s biological childen at all. T<span></span>his can be confirmed in legal papers— Neither is</div>
243<div>margaret’s eldest–Angie Crane a child of Daniels. Margaret was ob<span></span>sessed with Daniel and jealous of the other women</div>
244<div>she did it out of uncontrolled mental rage…Afterall, Margaret was<span></span> Daniel’s secretary and she was fired. This</div>
245<div>prompted her to kill her boss. Daniel had no interest and childre<span></span>n with margaret whatsoever.They were never married</div>
246<div>in any way, as well. I can also confirm that you, Ms. Robin was given the opportunity to reside at the Dubie’s North</div>
247<div>Shore ranch…Please respect the families.</div>
248<div>26 08 2006</div>
249<div>Truth Prevails<span> <span>(16:31:49)</span> :</span></div>
250<div>Dear Personal Prosperity</div>
251<div>It all must be very hard for you to know that while Daniel was ma<span></span>rried to you Margaret conceived 3 children from</div>
252<div>him and other women also; and the many others he had affairs with<span></span> during this time. While he may have told you</div>
253<div>horrible things about Margaret and all his other women he was als<span></span>o telling his other women horrible things about</div>
254<div>you..this was his pattern. I suppose you were also Mary Magdalene and the chosen one. The immaculate conceptions</div>
255<div>my dear were because he was still married to you and so stories h<span></span>ad to be fabricated..no coitus, to keep your fountain</div>
256<div>of prosperity flowing in his direction. DNA testings prove otherw<span></span>ise..like real biological children..</div>
257<div>Why do you continue to make him as a standing member of the commu<span></span>nity..it is a no brainer to go on line and see his</div>
258<div>many alias’ and the court records in the state of Hawaii alone fo<span></span>r rape, felony, fraud, kidnapping, etc.</div>
259<div>If they were not his children why did he support her and the children and pay all their school fees…and why his name</div>
260<div>on their birth certificates?</div>
261<div>26 08 2006</div>
262<div>Erlene F.<span> <span>(21:33:24)</span> :</span></div>
263<div>Margaret Crane”Jeana Hart”: “If you could say anything to Danielle, David, Darshan, Rachel and Lily what would</div>
264<div>you say to them?”</div>
265<div>What would you say to Sylvie Thaucea’s four biological children i<span></span>ncluding Felicia..</div>
266<div>26 08 2006</div>
267<div>Arlene<span> <span>(21:38:35)</span> :</span></div>
268<div>I agree with Personal prosperity about the 5 invitro fertalized c<span></span>hildren. For I was an employee of Geri and Daniel’s</div>
269<div>and it is in legal documentation. Geri and Daniel have records al<span></span>ong with hospital papers. Furthermore, margaret and</div>
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277<div>Daniel were never married. Robin perhaps your best bet would to s<span></span>peak with Geri she will explain the truth to you.</div>
278<div>27 08 2006</div>
279<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:37:47)</span> :</span></div>
280<div>Dear Arlene,</div>
281<div>Beware (as I mentioned earlier) I have seen forged “hospital pape<span></span>rs” documents with my own eyes and accepted them</div>
282<div>at face value. I found out later they were totally fraudulent.</div>
283<div>I think that prior ranting accusations posted on this site regard<span></span>ing the question of the paternity of Jeana’s children</div>
284<div>crossed the line of civil discourse and that this is a matter tha<span></span>t the courts will adjudicate in good time based upon court</div>
285<div>ordered, independent and objective scientific methods through sta<span></span>ndard paternity testing (which can be done even</div>
286<div>without the father by comparisons among the siblings).</div>
287<div>Despite the outcome, these children have suffered the loss of at <span></span>least a “father figure” in their lives and now the</div>
288<div>incarceration of their mother as well to a horrible crime (secret<span></span>ary shoots boss??) and/or human tragedy (scorned</div>
289<div>faithful partner of 3 decades snaps??).</div>
290<div>Support for Angel in her care of these innocents should be the principal focus.</div>
291<div>Please show respect for the children.</div>
292<div>28 08 2006</div>
293<div>Arlene F.</div>
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295<div>(11:22:10)<span> :</span></div>
296<div>There is no reason for forged “hospital papers” here. Our office has copies of legal documentation of Jeana’s invitro</div>
297<div>fertalization done at a clinci on Oahu. Thesse are not fraudulent<span></span>. If Margaret wants a DNA or paternity done she can</div>
298<div>do so for Daniel is not the father of Margarets children. My best wishes to Margaret. Ms. Robin Sharan you may</div>
299<div>contact Geri at your convenience to shed some light on this situa<span></span>tion and to further upadate you on this case. Best</div>
300<div>Wishes and Good Luck!</div>
301<div>28 08 2006</div>
302<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(14:23:37)</span> :</span></div>
303<div>Arlene,</div>
304<div>With all due respect, there are plenty of reasons for forged/misl<span></span>eading/incomplete documents regarding this issue…..</div>
305<div>There were also children born in rural Canada to Daniel and Jeana<span></span>. What she agreed to legally declare and why is</div>
306<div>beyond the scope of this site.</div>
307<div>The truth will prevail.</div>
308<div>Udates are available regarding this important and tragic case fro<span></span>m those perhaps closer to Margaret than Geri.</div>
309<div>It is kind of you to send best wishes to Margaret. I understand t<span></span>hat she is filled with remorse.</div>
310<div>Foremost, all gentle hearted readers will mourn the tragedy that <span></span>all of the affected children endure, especially the</div>
311<div>adult children who have lost forever a most remarkable father who<span></span> was above all greatly loved.</div>
312<div>30 08 2006</div>
313<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(20:49:34)</span> :</span></div>
314</div>
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321<div>Margaret’s story is no less than Shakespearian in the depth of it<span></span>s tragedy. I truly wish her the strength she needs to</div>
322<div>pull through this soundly and safely.</div>
323<div>Her story has touched me deeply, even though I don’t know her or any one who does, beyond the words left by some</div>
324<div>of the visitors to this blog.</div>
325<div>I can’t begin to understand what she was, is or will be going thr<span></span>ough.</div>
326<div>One thing seems clear to me at the moment, her good works in the <span></span>past are affecting her present, and her children’s</div>
327<div>welfare for the better.</div>
328<div>She has friends spanning the globe, bringing messages, small comf<span></span>orts and legal services.</div>
329<div>Her children are together, members of the community of Victoria a<span></span>re pulling together to help them with the little</div>
330<div>things you need to start over. Things like cutlery and dishes, an<span></span>d moral support. And her eldest, fortuitously named</div>
331<div>Angel is by reputation, a well grounded lovely women with great p<span></span>otential and a good job. Young as she is, her arms</div>
332<div>have the capacity to hold her siblings and support them through t<span></span>his difficult time.</div>
333<div>I truly hope Margaret considers these measures of accomplishment <span></span>when struggling with her emotions of remorse and</div>
334<div>guilt. The fruits of her labour as described above are beautiful,<span></span> kind, and selfless.</div>
335<div>My sympathies also lie with Daniel’s ex wife who may have divorce<span></span>d him for whatever reason’s but obviously never</div>
336<div>wished for his death. It must be a shock to lose someone you love<span></span> in such a brutal way, and then to have to watch the</div>
337<div>world sit in judgement of him, their lifestyle and personal choic<span></span>es.</div>
338<div>I strongly feel Daniel Dubie’s death was the end result of a series of events put in to motion by Dubie himself. The</div>
339<div>veracity of this will become apparant when the truth finally emer<span></span>ges.</div>
340<div>I wish all the people involved the fortitude to deal with the fal<span></span>l out of Daniel Dubie’s multiple lives, and singular</div>
341<div>death.</div>
342<div>Most sincerely,</div>
343<div>Hazel.</div>
344<div>7 09 2006</div>
345<div>A. Iris<span> <span>(05:44:28)</span> :</span></div>
346<div>I am a Thai person who knew Daniel for 4 years. I do not know him<span></span> before and do not want to hear anything bad</div>
347<div>about him. Let me tell you how he stay in Thailand. He is a great<span></span> person. He always help people. I knew how he take</div>
348<div>care Jenna and her childrens. Daniel always paid money event the <span></span>car that Jenna used for murder him. You will not</div>
349<div>understand untill you become Daniel’s close friend. For me Daniel<span></span> is my best friend who is a hero for us. And I can</div>
350<div>not find anyone like him. Good sleep my friend. You alway look good in my heart. I will not forgot you my best</div>
351<div>friend. I will do as much as I can for you. Daniel</div>
352<div>7 09 2006</div>
353<div>hazel8500</div>
354<p> </p>
355<div>(09:11:47)<span> :</span></div>
356<div>Thank you Iris, for adding your recollections here. I am sorry for your loss.</div>
357<div>Hazel.</div>
358<div>8 09 2006</div>
359<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(21:39:01)</span> :</span></div>
360<div>You are so right Iris. You words are beautiful and show a beautiful person that I am sure he loved very much. Daniel</div>
361<div>was a great hero to me in my life and my best friend for a time. <span></span>I miss him every day and there is a hole in my heart</div>
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369<div>that will never heal. I am so sorry for your loss. Daniel called <span></span>me in May and was very earnestly telling me of his path</div>
370<div>of transformation to a higher self. I know that he loved his Thai<span></span> home.</div>
371<div>Please do not be offended at discussions of his past. There was a time when I only knew of the past what he told me.</div>
372<div>Then I personally experienced problems that forced me to turn awa<span></span>y from him. This was the hardest thing I have ever</div>
373<div>done and it still breaks my heart because I still do love him ver<span></span>y much. I hope you will have some compassion for</div>
374<div>women of his past who also loved him very much but faced difficul<span></span>t troubles. I fear that Jeana may have faced</div>
375<div>problems we cannot know. Nothing can forgive her actions but I un<span></span>derstand that she is filled with remorse and this</div>
376<div>may be because despite the horrible trouble that caused her actio<span></span>n that night, she may also have still deeply loved</div>
377<div>Daniel. I do not know of course. But I would plead for compassion<span></span> for all affected.</div>
378<div>Even when I had to fight against this man I loved so much he told<span></span> me he loved me still and had compassion for my</div>
379<div>suffering. He wrote of his sorrow to cause me such suffering and did a great deal to make things right with me. I</div>
380<div>respect him for that very much. Sadly I could not trust him again<span></span> and could not find the grace to forgive him. I regret</div>
381<div>that now.</div>
382<div>You were blessed to know him and I agree that there is no one els<span></span>e like him. Aloha-love and peace to you always.</div>
383<div>9 09 2006</div>
384<div>you need help...</div>
385<p> </p>
386<div>(17:14:54)<span> :</span></div>
387<div>Hawaiian eyes you are truly obsessed with a man who dumped you…look and read all the replys you have written in</div>
388<div>response to Daniel(Thai Visa, chats, etc… as well as Hazel’s webs<span></span>ite…you are just like Jeana an obsessed woman</div>
389<div>who needs psychiatric treatment..let it go and move on….</div>
390<div>9 09 2006</div>
391<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(18:31:13)</span> :</span></div>
392<div>Thank you for your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. I respect that. I am not going to get into a flame war</div>
393<div>with you “You need help”. But I will honor you with a sincere response.</div>
394<div>I am glad you have read what I have written on various sites. It <span></span>all comes from my heart.</div>
395<div>We cannot know what would come from Jeana’s heart right now becau<span></span>se she sits muted in a Thai jail cell. Part of</div>
396<div>why I have chosen come out of the shadows to share such private t<span></span>houghts and feelings and face the obvious reality</div>
397<div>of possible ridicule, is to share what I know because I feel that<span></span> she and others still silent may have suffered a similar</div>
398<div>dilemmas or torments. Many courageous women from his past have re<span></span>cently come forward and shared their own</div>
399<div>struggles on these same sites. Our voices have common elements. I<span></span> have gained strength and new ways of “moving</div>
400<div>on” from this remarkable www vehicle of communication. I find it <span></span>hard to believe that all of us deserve to be</div>
401<div>marginalized by labels or name calling.</div>
402<div>I would agree that one effect this person had on my life has been profound and lasting trauma. If there was a medical</div>
403<div>treatment that could erase that, I would be the first to humbly s<span></span>eek it. I have in fact sought and received all appropriate</div>
404<div>medical care and counseling and benefited from the process. I hav<span></span>e been declared quite fit and sane. I have read</div>
405<div>books on related topics and learned that what I experienced, sadl<span></span>y, is not rare in today’s world.</div>
406<div>While he was as dear and remarkable as Iris describes, I saw him <span></span>capable of great deceit and horrifying actions. I</div>
407<div>don’t assume that every person he encountered had the same experi<span></span>ence. Still there is real evidence that some were</div>
408<div>affected as I was. I saw him pit woman against woman. Sadly I thi<span></span>nk that continues.</div>
409<div>If I were to describe on line exactly what happened to me over th<span></span>e course of time of being in his inner circle, I think</div>
410<div>that 9/10 women would consider what I have written and how I resp<span></span>onded to be exceptionally restrained. I would</div>
411<div>suggest that the ability to walk away from abuse, take action, st<span></span>and up against it, fight through available legal</div>
412<div>mechanisms without resorting to hatred all requires great courage<span></span>, love, mental discipline and dignity.</div>
413<div>9 09 2006</div>
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421<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(20:07:08)</span> :</span></div>
422<div>Hawain Eyes Sed; “I would suggest that the ability to walk away from abuse, take action, stand up against it, fight</div>
423<div>through available legal mechanisms without resorting to hatred al<span></span>l requires great courage, love, mental discipline and</div>
424<div>dignity.”</div>
425<div>I would certainly agree with that statement Hawain Eyes.</div>
426<div>And I’d also like to take the time to commend you on your continu<span></span>ed compassion in the face of, well everything I’ve</div>
427<div>witnessed so far.</div>
428<div>I’m pleased that you are finding ways to deal with the trauma you<span></span> have experienced. I can empathise with your</div>
429<div>struggle and I know there is no miracle cure out there to erase a<span></span>ll that’s happend. There is only courage and</div>
430<div>determination and honesty to face what must be faced, and sift fr<span></span>om that facing, what to keep, what to discard.</div>
431<div>I think I can relate to the difficulty of loving someone, and bei<span></span>ng split between recognising the good they’ve brought</div>
432<div>into my life while simultaneously recognising the harm that came <span></span>with it. It’s that kind of sifting and sorting I speak</div>
433<div>of. How to keep the baby while throwing out the bath water and all that.</div>
434<div>I wish you continued strength,</div>
435<div>compassionately yours,</div>
436<div>Hazel.</div>
437<div>12 09 2006</div>
438<div>Robin Sharan<span> <span>(14:35:55)</span> :</span></div>
439<div>Dear Hazel8500,</div>
440<div>I am wanting to make a contribution to the children and would lik<span></span>e their mailing address to send them a check.</div>
441<div>I also would like the address of the jail that Margaret is in to <span></span>send her a card.</div>
442<div>12 09 2006</div>
443<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(15:18:55)</span> :</span></div>
444<div>Hello Robin, I’m so pleased to hear that! I’m sure they can use t<span></span>he gift.</div>
445<div>I don’t have an address only a name and phone number for you rega<span></span>rding donations. Please contact Kim Garnett at</div>
446<div>the Colonist 250-294-4862. She will be able to direct you as to w<span></span>here to send any gifts for the family. Angel works</div>
447<div>for the paper from time to time (contract work) and I am sure the<span></span>y are the best people to direct any enquiries to.</div>
448<div>Times Colonist article with contact info for donations:</div>
449<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/09/04/crane-siblings-update-m<span></span>ore-good-news-pours-in/#more-422</div>
450<div>As for where Margaret is being held in Thailand, I havn’t been able to secure that information. However, may I</div>
451<div>suggest you contact our local MP who is putting together an appea<span></span>l to have Margaret returned to Canada for trial.</div>
452<div>(Humanitarian reasons</div>
453<div>)</div>
454<div>An article detailing MP Martin’s activities on behalf of the Cran<span></span>e family</div>
455<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/09/08/angel-crane-gets-the-he<span></span>lp-of-local-mp/#more-432</div>
456<div>Contact Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca MP. Keith Martin:</div>
457<div>Parliamentary Office:</div>
458<div>300 Justice Building</div>
459<div>Ottawa ON K1A 0A6</div>
460<div>Phone:</div>
461</div>
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468<div>Fax:</div>
469<div>Email: (613) 996-2625</div>
470<div>(613) 996-9779</div>
471<div>MartiK@parl.gc.ca</div>
472<div>Constituency Office:</div>
473<div>666 Granderson Road</div>
474<div>Victoria BC V9B 2R8</div>
475<div>Phone:</div>
476<div>Fax:</div>
477<div>Email: (250) 474-6505</div>
478<div>(250) 474-5322</div>
479<div>MartiK1@parl.gc.ca</div>
480<div>“The circumstances around the murder are troubling with allegatio<span></span>ns that Mr. Dubie was a cult figure and prone to</div>
481<div>engaging in abusive behaviour,” wrote Martin.</div>
482<div>“I know this is a very unusual request but given that this indivi<span></span>dual has six children, five of which are very young, it</div>
483<div>would be humane if Mrs. Crane were to go through our justice syst<span></span>em, preferably in Victoria.”</div>
484<div>Please, let me know if this info is helpful and if you get a chan<span></span>ce to pass good wishes to Margaret. I would like to also</div>
485<div>send her a card, some kind of token of affection.</div>
486<div>Thank you,</div>
487<div>Hazel</div>
488<div>13 09 2006</div>
489<div>ness p.<span> <span>(16:23:56)</span> :</span></div>
490<div>What a tragic and unbelieveable situation for Jeana, especially h<span></span>er children. Her five children will surely grow up</div>
491<div>quickly. Given that she committed a crime and killed someone in T<span></span>hailand, Her liffe is pretty much over. Thailand is</div>
492<div>a very very strict and spiritual country. The Thai people will probably not let her go because of what she did.</div>
493<div>13 09 2006</div>
494<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(17:02:16)</span> :</span></div>
495<div>Hello Ness P. Good to meet you.</div>
496<div>I’ve not yet had the pleasure of visiting Thailand myself, but ha<span></span>ve known lots who have who share your view. I</div>
497<div>understand that foreigners accused of committing crimes in Thaila<span></span>nd have a special place in Thai culture. And not a</div>
498<div>favoured one, can’t blame them.</div>
499<div>I hope the wisdom of the nation will consider the extrordinary ci<span></span>rcumstances surrounding the shooting, including the</div>
500<div>possibility that Jeana was possibly acting in self defence, and m<span></span>ay have been suffering terribly spiritually,</div>
501<div>psychologically and emotionaly. Seeing as the victim was not Thai<span></span>, but North American with a former Canadian BC</div>
502<div>residence, I do hope Thai officials will consider letting Canada <span></span>foot the bill of the trial and incarceration until guilt or</div>
503<div>innocence is determined by a jury of Jeana’s peers. After all she<span></span> is a Canadian herself and as such is she not our</div>
504<div>responsibility?</div>
505<div>13 09 2006</div>
506<div>Ness P.<span> <span>(17:15:24)</span> :</span></div>
507<div>ms. hazel how do you know for a positive fact jenna was acting in self defense? are all your information coming from</div>
508<div>the computer internet. Jenna committed the crime in Thailand not <span></span>in america. It is unlikely she will have a trial in</div>
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516<div>canada. ms. hasel you didn’t even know what prison she was in now<span></span>. She is stuck here in Thailand. America jails is</div>
517<div>like a luxurous hotel .In Thailand it is different especially for<span></span> the foreigner who commit murder.She reponsible for her</div>
518<div>murder in Thai country not in Canada.</div>
519<div>13 09 2006</div>
520<div>Ness P.<span> <span>(17:36:32)</span> :</span></div>
521<div>Pim was one of the witnessess at the scene</div>
522<div>13 09 2006</div>
523<div>G Sam<span> <span>(17:41:50)</span> :</span></div>
524<div>Daniel’s Dubie’s truest and deepestloves who he protected, loved,<span></span> and cared for were probably Geraldine,</div>
525<div>Prachaya”Pim”, and Sandrea and his daughter Felicia</div>
526<div>13 09 2006</div>
527<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(22:14:22)</span> :</span></div>
528<div>Hello Ness P. All I know is what little has been let out in the m<span></span>edia. I don’t believe anyone knows for sure what truly</div>
529<div>transpired between these two spouses, wether it was murder or sel<span></span>f defence. But tjose are questions that will be</div>
530<div>answered at trial. I know Mr. Dubie was killed in Thailand and no<span></span>t in America. And I understand that he was</div>
531<div>accepted among many Thai’s as a dear friend. I don’t know what th<span></span>e conditions in an American jail is like, and I don’t</div>
532<div>think it much matters in this discussion as we aren’t talking abo<span></span>ut extraditing Margaret Crane to America, we are</div>
533<div>talking about returning her to Canada to stand trial. Not to be p<span></span>ut up in a luxurious spa.</div>
534<div>I am just a Canadian who is concerned about Canadian children, an<span></span>d am just expressing my concern for the children</div>
535<div>involved on my personal blog.</div>
536<div>Hazel.</div>
537<div>14 09 2006</div>
538<div>fruittbatt</div>
539<p> </p>
540<div>(00:06:51)<span> :</span></div>
541<div>Hi,</div>
542<div>it is great to see all the support that is going to Angel Crane f<span></span>or her brave and loyal actions in bringing up her siblings.</div>
543<div>Thanks, Hazel for making this forum available via your blog.</div>
544<div>I live in Thailand, near Chiang Mai, but have not yet been able t<span></span>o discover where Margaret/Jeana is being held (not</div>
545<div>the women’s prison). In reply to Ness, and with all due respect, <span></span>newspapers here claim that Pim was at Starbucks at</div>
546<div>the time of the shooting, which took place about 600-700 metres a<span></span>way. If this report is true, she could not possibly</div>
547<div>have witnessed the shooting, which took place in a different stre<span></span>et in Chiang Mai.</div>
548<div>If a crime is committed in Thailand, then (I am told) the trial m<span></span>ust be held here, unless the accused person is also</div>
549<div>wanted for similar offences in their country of origin, and that <span></span>country seeks extradition. I have given the name of</div>
550<div>Kim Pate to people in Canada who were originally seeking legal re<span></span>presentation for Margaret/Jeana’s. Kim apparently</div>
551<div>advocates on behalf of women in prison and is a well-known figure<span></span> in this field. I don’t know what happened to this</div>
552<div>connection, but if anyone on the spot would like to approach Kim,<span></span> she might be helpful in advising whether</div>
553<div>extradition is possible. I have to hand this baton over to someon<span></span>e else out there as my own time is scarce with</div>
554<div>thesis-writing commitments for the next few months.</div>
555<div>Best wishes to old and new friends out there and to Angel for her good heart and brave decision, fruittbatt</div>
556<div>14 09 2006</div>
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564<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(08:48:51)</span> :</span></div>
565<div>Fruitbatt, thank you for the information, and taking the time to <span></span>give it. I hope you do well with your thesis activites.</div>
566<div>Best wishes,</div>
567<div>Hazel</div>
568<div>17 09 2006</div>
569<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:48:20)</span> :</span></div>
570<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
571<div>Thank you again for hosting this forum and for your wise, compass<span></span>ionate and steady focus on the needs of Angel and</div>
572<div>her siblings.</div>
573<div>I have received a confidential message for you to forward to Robin Sharan that the writer does not want to post on</div>
574<div>this public blog. Can you PM me?</div>
575<div>Aloha</div>
576<div>18 09 2006</div>
577<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(12:39:33)</span> :</span></div>
578<div>Message in progress.</div>
579<div>19 09 2006</div>
580<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:17:10)</span> :</span></div>
581<div>IP: 72.235.49.131</div>
582<div>Wether you call yourself nutso, fruitbasket, woman’s lib, nes p.,<span></span> p.ness or Vanessa, you are banned. Please stop trying</div>
583<div>to post…It aint gonna happen.</div>
584<div>24 09 2006</div>
585<div>Robin Sharan<span> <span>(02:42:50)</span> :</span></div>
586<div>Gandhi said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.</div>
587<div>Women all over the world take abuse because they don’t have the m<span></span>eans to make it on their own, financially,</div>
588<div>mentally or emotionally or even socially. I say the time has arri<span></span>ved to stop this insanity of letting men continue the</div>
589<div>mental torture of women. I remember that Geri said to me “if you <span></span>only knew what was going on…” Geri, He tortured</div>
590<div>you as much as anyone else, why else would you have divorced him? This was in the early part of 2000. I saw great</div>
591<div>disfunctionality. Pitting one woman against the other, lies and d<span></span>eception. He knew how to elevate and then cut people</div>
592<div>down and use his charm to soothe difficult situations. Margaret n<span></span>eeds to be back in Canada and needs to stand trial in</div>
593<div>Canada if for only to answer questions about the missing North Am<span></span>erican women.</div>
594<div>It is extremely valuable to get the entire story out according to<span></span> Margaret and to inform men who are abusers that they</div>
595<div>cannot continue their crimes against women, no matter how charmin<span></span>g or charismatic a man might be.</div>
596<div>25 09 2006</div>
597<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(22:04:39)</span> :</span></div>
598<div>Jessica, I have banned you from making comments to this blog in p<span></span>art for your own sake. I understand you are in</div>
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606<div>great pain and anguish, and I suspect you have every reason to be. The things you are trying to post indicate you are</div>
607<div>going through a terrible time. This time will eventually pass, an<span></span>d though you will never have Daniel back in the</div>
608<div>world, you will always have the best part of him in your heart. I<span></span> am not posting your comments, because I have hope</div>
609<div>you will someday come to realize how inappropriate and hurtful th<span></span>ey are in this forum, and I also hope you feel relief</div>
610<div>that I did not post your angry hurtful words when I received them<span></span>.</div>
611<div>I would like to offer you this thought; Your relationship to Dani<span></span>el was all your own, and what ever transpired bewteen</div>
612<div>him and others will never change the nature of the relationship y<span></span>ou enjoyed with him.</div>
613<div>At the same time, nothing that you can say or do will change othe<span></span>r people’s oppinions of him as they knew him.</div>
614<div>I did not know him, and I trust your version of Daniel is a true <span></span>account of him as you knew him. One rather painful</div>
615<div>lesson I have learned in life is that sometimes we only get to kn<span></span>ow one facet of a person, and miss out on others. No</div>
616<div>one can be all things to any one person but themselves, and even <span></span>that’s a stretch.</div>
617<div>Please don’t allow the controversy over this man, destroy the ten<span></span>derness you have in your heart. I am sure he</div>
618<div>appreciates your loyalty, but would rather you not twist in this kind of inner turmoil.</div>
619<div>Un plug from the computer, go find someone you care about and get<span></span> yourself a hug.</div>
620<div>Sincerely,</div>
621<div>Hazel.</div>
622<div>26 09 2006</div>
623<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:11:34)</span> :</span></div>
624<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
625<div>Thank you again for your blog site as a forum for this discussion<span></span> that can hopefully facilitate greater understanding,</div>
626<div>compassion and healing.</div>
627<div>I share here a recent email from Daniel in the hopes that it will<span></span> bring some comfort and healing to others who grieve</div>
628<div>now.</div>
629<div>“My Dearest Angel,</div>
630<div>Please go to:</div>
631<div>http://positivepause.com/en</div>
632<div>On this day of Giving Thanks I must share with you my hearts grat<span></span>itude for</div>
633<div>the Sacred gift of what our relationship means to me. You represe<span></span>nt the</div>
634<div>hope, faith, trust and true testimony to the power of love that m<span></span>ost people</div>
635<div>only dream about. You are right, our story would make such an emp<span></span>owing</div>
636<div>book…and one day I do think we should share it with the world…per<span></span>haps</div>
637<div>when I am through this maze and on the clear path of my new life.<span></span> For the</div>
638<div>time being I am grateful to be able to now access the clarity tha<span></span>t comes</div>
639<div>from this new found transformation of love and truth that the pea<span></span>ceful</div>
640<div>beating of our hearts in tune bring. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you</div>
641<div>for the wings that shelter me and give me strength to fly.</div>
642<div>Eternal Love, Gratitude and Peace,</div>
643<div>Daniel”</div>
644<div>I think that I now understand that the feelings he shared were no<span></span>t specific for me but for a number of women that</div>
645<div>shared a place in his heart. That is hard to say because it would<span></span> mean that I was not his solitary “soul mate” as he told</div>
646<div>me but perhaps for true healing there are some of us who need to <span></span>embrace this greater truth.</div>
647</div>
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654<div>I do accept the good and the bad, as it were, together and I will<span></span> not deny one or the other. I saw both and perhaps the</div>
655<div>good was all the more profoundly moving because of the contrast.</div>
656<div>On some deeper level, I wonder if all this profound and soulful a<span></span>ttention he lavished on me (and OTHERS, it seems</div>
657<div>many others) over the years was an intoxicating type of mind cont<span></span>rol/ mental enslavement ultimately allowing abuse.</div>
658<div>This sounds rather cynical to say but from the years and what I n<span></span>ow see as common patterns in his behaviour to</div>
659<div>women, I wonder. I do think there was a genuinely beautiful perso<span></span>n in him but I think that he also learned how to</div>
660<div>harness this and use this to some personal advantage. This would <span></span>be the mode of behaviour of a sociopath who does</div>
661<div>not consider/understand the ramifications of his behaviour. Again<span></span> these are harsh questions and I do not deny my love</div>
662<div>for him but at my core I want truth in all aspects of my life so <span></span>I ask and I seek and I speak.</div>
663<div>Regarding Jeana and extradition, I think that there are various l<span></span>egal considerations. First, as a convicted felon, George</div>
664<div>Patrick Dubie, aka Daniel Dubie was not allowed to enter or live <span></span>in the Kingdom of Thailand. This he must have</div>
665<div>concealed from Thai authorities. All immigration documents includ<span></span>e the question of criminal convictions and exclude</div>
666<div>US felons from entering Thailand. The fact that he was in the Kin<span></span>gdom illegally and as a result of fraud should be</div>
667<div>raised. Second, if Jeana has any material knowledge pertaining to<span></span> outstanding criminal investigations in US or Canada</div>
668<div>she should request audience with US or Canadian consulate personn<span></span>el to provide such testimony. This may aid in</div>
669<div>successful negotiation for her extradition.</div>
670<div>Aloha,</div>
671<div>27 09 2006</div>
672<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(09:13:59)</span> :</span></div>
673<div>Dear hawaiin Eyes,</div>
674<div>What a wonderful way to wake up, thank you for that positive pause site.</div>
675<div>I also am quite moved that you would share such a personal note f<span></span>rom Daniel to you. Thank you.</div>
676<div>With regards to how Daniel felt towards you and various soul mate<span></span>s, I invite you to consider the term anima and what</div>
677<div>it may have meant to Daniel and the way he realated to you and ot<span></span>her women.</div>
678<div>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anima</div>
679<div>I do not mean to cause you or anyone any pain, but I really think this is an oportune moment to introduce a term to</div>
680<div>some of the readers who may not be familiar with it, and maybe sh<span></span>ould be.</div>
681<div>Love Bombing;</div>
682<div>Definitions</div>
683<div>Wikipedia</div>
684<div>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_bombing</div>
685<div>The Watchmane Expositor</div>
686<div>http://www.watchman.org/cults/lovebomb.htm</div>
687<div>Cosmic Fool Forum Discussion</div>
688<div>http://www.cosmicfool.com/discussion/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000011.html</div>
689<div>I would also like to share with You Hawaiin Eyes my own experienc<span></span>e of being “Love Bombed”, and how it shaped</div>
690<div>the course of my life.</div>
691<div>I was led to believe as a very small child that I was deeply, unc<span></span>onditionally loved by this “Family Group” I was</div>
692<div>fostered with. They managed to seperate me from my actual family <span></span>through fraudulent and even illegal means.</div>
693<div>What followed was seven years of abuse and dare I say indoctrinat<span></span>ion to a very unhealthy life style. Still at a very</div>
694<div>young age, I made a difficult decision to leave these people and <span></span>when explaining to the head of the household (a very</div>
695<div>charismatic woman/mother figure) why I had to leave and how much <span></span>I appreciated her caring for me all those years,</div>
696<div>she turned on me and said she never loved me, I was just a disgus<span></span>ting child yadda yadda yadda. I was devestated. This</div>
697<div>took the rug out from under my feet. It would be many years later<span></span>, that I could actually even accept she even meant</div>
698<div>what she said, and even more years until I discovered the term “L<span></span>ove Bombing”.</div>
699<div>To this day I am split right down the middle in regards to this w<span></span>oman. On one hand I never outgrew the immence</div>
700<div>respect I had for her, I still feel a great deal of love for her, and dare I say it even gratitude? Then on the other hand I</div>
701<div>am horrified at how she used me, lied to me, I have a hard time s<span></span>ifting fact from fiction with regards to who she was,</div>
702<div>or how she and I actually related.</div>
703<div>I could have gone right out of my mind trying to reconcile these <span></span>two experiences of this one woman. I finally decided</div>
704<div>to allow myself to go ahead and feel both things at once, one was<span></span> no more valid than the other.</div>
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712<div>This acceptance has resulted in a great deal of peace for me now <span></span>that I am no longer fighting my own feelings on the</div>
713<div>matter.</div>
714<div>I really hope sharing this will help others reading this who may <span></span>be going through a similar experience today.</div>
715<div>Wishing you much peace and happiness,</div>
716<div>Hazel.</div>
717<div>27 09 2006</div>
718<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(10:38:55)</span> :</span></div>
719<div>Thank you Hazel for your remarkably “spot on” and considered response! I really appreciate your thoughts and your</div>
720<div>own personal experience that demonstrate the power of “love” to r<span></span>epress or manipulate for years.</div>
721<div>I will carefully consider this over the next few days, but on first read it seems to be a very good fit and an</div>
722<div>exceptionally useful analysis.</div>
723<div>Aloha</div>
724<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
725<div>27 09 2006</div>
726<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:12:38)</span> :</span></div>
727<div>I am so pleased if what I shared can help you in any small way. T<span></span>hank you for the courage you have shown in sharing</div>
728<div>and letting me know how you feel and how you are doing.</div>
729<div>You have reinforced my feeling that the difference between love and hate, is choice.</div>
730<div>Keep making good choices Hawain Eyes, and you will be all you are meant to be. Which in my opinion is a shining</div>
731<div>star.</div>
732<div>Hazel.</div>
733<div>28 09 2006</div>
734<div>Thailand resident<span> <span>(03:26:32)</span> :</span></div>
735<div>Hazel,</div>
736<div>It’s interesting to note all the remarks re Margaret as I have on<span></span>ly met her in the recent past.</div>
737<div>Margaret has challenges in a Thai jail, as she is vegetarian, and<span></span> she has very few people she can communicate with in</div>
738<div>English. I don’t think she’d mind me saying this. I am speaking a<span></span>s her recent friend, not having known Daniel and not</div>
739<div>trying to defend her or accuse her, but just be her friend when she needs one. She is getting daily visits but is allowed</div>
740<div>only one per day. It’s not easy to communicate through a barred w<span></span>indow on a phone, but those are things everyone</div>
741<div>must deal with.</div>
742<div>The jail is not that bad at all inside and they have different cl<span></span>asses. I am not at liberty to say much more.</div>
743<div>I have heard that her lawyer feels she will get a fair trial here<span></span> and that there is some hope for her. Whoever doesn’t</div>
744<div>think she deserves it, should consider what Jesus said, “Let her/<span></span>him who is without guilt cast the first stone.” Jesus</div>
745<div>said this to an adulteress. It sounds like George/Daniel/Shon had<span></span> quite a few women consecutively, and he had quite a</div>
746<div>few names to avoid the law.</div>
747<div>Have you read Sarada’s story? Sarada has put her story on the internet</div>
748<div>http://www.karunabooks.net/library/long_letter_to_a_friend.pdf<span></span><span> Shon(Daniel/George) appears on page 54-85. He had</span></div>
749<div>remarkable powers to deceive others which did not come from God. <span></span>Jesus healed the sick. Shon used his powers to</div>
750<div>deceieve women, and was calling himself Jesus? Pretty sick if you ask me.</div>
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758<div>Read Sarada’s appendix (last page) to see the powers Shon had. Am<span></span>azing isn’t it? It’s in pdf so I can’t copy it here.</div>
759<div>He could make things appear and disappear? No wonder these women were mesmerized! Few mortals can do this but</div>
760<div>to some it has been given these powers of darkness and they come <span></span>from the dark, evil side. It’s best to stay clear of</div>
761<div>these people altogether as they have ill intentions for using the<span></span>se powers. Eventhough someone does many good</div>
762<div>things, that doesn’t give them the right to abuse people and to a<span></span>buse children. I agree with Jesus who said such a</div>
763<div>person should have a millstone tied around his neck and be thrown<span></span> into the sea! Mark 9:42 “Whoever causes one of</div>
764<div>these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better fo<span></span>r him if a great millstone were hung round his neck and</div>
765<div>he were thrown into the sea.”</div>
766<div>I am wondering that with all this reported abuse, how did Shon ge<span></span>t away with not being arrested for it? But now his</div>
767<div>abuse has ended and some of the women forget the abuse and rememb<span></span>er only the good things. Well that’s good if they</div>
768<div>can do it but why make him a saint because of that!</div>
769<div>Does anyone have a photo of George/Daniel/Shon other than a dead corpse on the internet? Seems he was such a</div>
770<div>handsome guy, but nobody has even bothered to show who this great<span></span> guy is!</div>
771<div>It seems he abused some with lies and some in other ways of decep<span></span>tion. Those who want to remember the good things</div>
772<div>should not try to convince everyone how good he is. Those who remember the bad must learn to forgive themselves</div>
773<div>and George, learn a lesson from it all and get on with a new life<span></span> as best they can.</div>
774<div>I suppose Sarada will be accused of lying as well. But I tend to <span></span>believe her version as it seems she has left the flock</div>
775<div>and seems to be confessing her role and her deception in the whol<span></span>e part. Maybe more people need to do this to get</div>
776<div>themselves released from the deception that went on. If they keep<span></span> hanging on to their deceptions they will just open</div>
777<div>themselves up to more deceptions in the future.</div>
778<div>I hope the readers are not too quick to accuse and judge Margaret<span></span>. There are so many versions even in the news, that</div>
779<div>contradict one another. Even the news is based on gossip it seems<span></span>. She obviously misses her children but it seems</div>
780<div>they are doing pretty good in Canada from the news reports we hear. There IS HOPE for Maragret - all those with bad</div>
781<div>wishes for her have no power over her - let them swallow their bi<span></span>tterness and get on with their lives. Margaret doesn’t</div>
782<div>need to hear from them, and so an address should not be given out<span></span> on the internet as far as I am concerned. She will</div>
783<div>get in touch with those she needs to by herself.</div>
784<div>From a well wisher to Margaret and all of you to get on with a ne<span></span>w life and be free!</div>
785<div>28 09 2006</div>
786<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:12:01)</span> :</span></div>
787<div>Thank you so very much for this update and sage advice. I am sure<span></span> many readers will find relief hearing about</div>
788<div>Margaret’s welfare and the reassurance she is being treated fairl<span></span>y and will continue to be treated so.</div>
789<div>If you have an occassion to read this, please could you pass my warm wishes to Margaret. Also not sure if she is</div>
790<div>aware, but there will be a all ages concert/dance fund raiser nex<span></span>t month in Victoria. Proceeds will go to her children. I</div>
791<div>wish her peace of mind, and I hope she is aware of how the Victoria community is pulling through for her kids.</div>
792<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/09/26/november-rising-october<span></span>-15-2006/</div>
793<div>Sincerely,</div>
794<div>Hazel.</div>
795<div>28 09 2006</div>
796<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:15:46)</span> :</span></div>
797<div>Also, I look forward to reading Sarada’s story. I do believe it i<span></span>s important for those who have experienced such things</div>
798<div>to educate the rest of us about the dangers and pitfalls that are<span></span> out there, disguised as something else.</div>
799<div>28 09 2006</div>
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807<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(11:07:26)</span> :</span></div>
808<div>Dear Thailand Resident,</div>
809<div>Thank you for your comments and for your compassioned care of Jea<span></span>na.</div>
810<div>Regarding your questions, he was in fact arrested for his fraud and charged with multiple felony counts and convicted</div>
811<div>and served time in Hawaii.</div>
812<div>If you are wanting to see a proper portrait of George Patrick Dubie, aka Daniel etc, I posted one on another forum out</div>
813<div>of disgust at seeing all the deceased images. I would not describ<span></span>e him as an overly attractive man but his gaze was</div>
814<div>quite a gentle mesmerizing one with his wide set dark eyes. His c<span></span>arriage was that of a large, gentle, humble sort of</div>
815<div>person. I think first impressions of him were usually of that nat<span></span>ure as I saw perfect strangers respond to him in a</div>
816<div>friendly trusting way.</div>
817<div>Please scroll down to Post #308 on this link</div>
818<div>http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=74720&amp;st=295</div>
819<div>I never saw any disappearing tricks and I think that Sarada’s exp<span></span>erience was long ago. More recently, 1998 to present,</div>
820<div>I think that his approach was mental, psychological, spiritual an<span></span>d emotional emeshing with his “love” interests. His</div>
821<div>deceptions were more calculated distortions of fact or outright m<span></span>isreprenetations designed to elict sympathy care or</div>
822<div>desired actions. For example, he presented me with a CAT scan sho<span></span>wing his brain tumor, it was not his scan at all.</div>
823<div>There were so many things like this. I worked really hard at conf<span></span>ronting him with his deceptions when I finally got a</div>
824<div>handle on it. He tearfully asked for my forgiveness, more than on<span></span>ce down on his knees. I wanted to believe that he</div>
825<div>was sincere about following a new path of “love and truth” in his<span></span> life but I could not continue to associate with him</div>
826<div>on the same level.</div>
827<div>I will never really completely understand all this I am sure but <span></span>for now I accept the good and the bad and soldier on.</div>
828<div>As you say</div>
829<div>“Those who remember the bad must learn to forgive themselves and <span></span>George, learn a lesson from it all and get on with</div>
830<div>a new life as best they can”</div>
831<div>I think that Hazel’s analysis of “love bombing” fits well.</div>
832<div>Thank you also for kind encouragement to seek a “new life and to <span></span>be [set] free”.</div>
833<div>I agree.</div>
834<div>“You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free”</div>
835<div>Aloha,</div>
836<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
837<div>28 09 2006</div>
838<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:45:17)</span> :</span></div>
839<div>I have begun to read this long letter to a friend. It is indeed l<span></span>ong. I will pick up on it later. In the meantime, if Sarada</div>
840<div>happens to surf through and find this thread, I would like to say<span></span> thank you for making your account available. It is</div>
841<div>sorely needed at this time.</div>
842<div>Anyone else surfing through who may have an interest in this case<span></span>, or in cults in general, this is a must read.</div>
843<div>http://www.karunabooks.net/library/long_letter_to_a_friend.pdf</div>
844<div>Hazel.</div>
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852<div>28 09 2006</div>
853<div>Thailand resident</div>
854<div><span>(18:46:03)</span> :</div>
855<div>Hazel,</div>
856<div>Thanks so much for posting these e-mails. I take it you</div>
857<div>are in Victoria. I will make sure Margaret knows what the communi<span></span>ty</div>
858<div>there is doing foe her children, and I am sure she will appprecia<span></span>te</div>
859<div>it very much.</div>
860<div>Sarada’s story is indeed very sad, but I am thankful to her too, <span></span>for putting it on the internet. If there is anyway to</div>
861<div>contact her I too would be interested to thank her and even to an<span></span>swer her question in her appendix. How did he do</div>
862<div>these things? I do have some opinions on that.</div>
863<div>28 09 2006</div>
864<div>Thailand resident</div>
865<div><span>(18:59:31)</span> :</div>
866<div>Hawaiianeyes,</div>
867<div>I fully agree with your statement,</div>
868<div>“You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free”.</div>
869<div>May it be so for Margaret and all those involved in the history o<span></span>f</div>
870<div>George Patrick Dubie.</div>
871<div>Interesting that he didn’t use his magic later on. There must hav<span></span>e been others that saw it, I would think. According to</div>
872<div>Sarada, he would have a number of people involved in these things<span></span>, as well as in finding “angels” for him. I mean,</div>
873<div>when someone gets his own best friends to find “angels” (beautifu<span></span>l women) for him (as Daniel reportedly did) so that</div>
874<div>he can seduce them and use their names to buy houses, etc., and w<span></span>hen these friends go along with it, that is a very big</div>
875<div>deception that we are talking about.</div>
876<div>So he must have been a very smooth talker and had special spiritu<span></span>al powers that these people succumbed to. In my</div>
877<div>opinion, it is more than just a humble, nice guy, who knows how t<span></span>o play sympathetic games with people. I am glad</div>
878<div>you were able to see through that part of it and that you were able to confront him on that. Bravo to you! But for the</div>
879<div>others who couldn’t see that, it seems there was a spirit of dece<span></span>ption that made them willing to go along with</div>
880<div>something that their conscience should have told them was wrong.</div>
881<div>Best wishes in pursuit to knowing the truth and being set free!</div>
882<div>28 09 2006</div>
883<div>Kay Danes<span> <span>(19:20:26)</span> :</span></div>
884<div>Thank you Robin Sharan for alerting us to the detainment of Marga<span></span>ret Crane. We are currently in the process of</div>
885<div>posting this information on our website and hopefully, we will be<span></span> able to establish contact with Margaret to generate</div>
886<div>support for her family.</div>
887<div>If anyone is in contact with Margaret’s family, please let them k<span></span>now that we are here to assist if they need our</div>
888<div>support.</div>
889<div>Kind regards,</div>
890<div>Kay Danes</div>
891<div>International Human Rights Advocate</div>
892<div>www.foreignprisoners.com</div>
893</div>
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900<div>My web</div>
901<div>www.kaydanes.com</div>
902<div>29 09 2006</div>
903<div>Thailand resident<span> <span>(06:40:55)</span> :</span></div>
904<div>Kay,</div>
905<div>Does anyone know if Margaret is getting a fair representation in the courts in Chiang Mai, Thailand?</div>
906<div>According to Sarada’s story, Margaret (Maggie) was seemingly brai<span></span>nwashed by lies and deception.</div>
907<div>I understand Margret is now being advised to plead guilty to murd<span></span>er in self defense - is that such a wise thing? Was</div>
908<div>she not mentally unstable and was she not abused, deceived, and b<span></span>etrayed by her own husband?</div>
909<div>In Chiang Mai, there is not even a Canadian consulate. Everytime <span></span>I have tried to get help I have to make an</div>
910<div>appointment with the consul’s agent. I have wondered if there rea<span></span>lly is a consul, because nobody has ever seen her or</div>
911<div>him that I know of.</div>
912<div>What kind of people does Margaret have working on her behalf in C<span></span>haing Mai? I am here and I will be asking a lot of</div>
913<div>questions. I hope you are doing the same.</div>
914<div>She wept last time I saw her in prison and she said she had nobod<span></span>y to talk to in English within the prison. Her</div>
915<div>conversations are limited to 10 minutes a day to one person a day<span></span> through a glass window.</div>
916<div>She seemed afraid to say too much because the guard was watching <span></span>her and the guard said she can’t talk about the</div>
917<div>prison.</div>
918<div>She was given permission to practice yoga but then was suddenly t<span></span>old she couldn’t do it anymore. She didn’t know</div>
919<div>why.</div>
920<div>I didn’t want to say anything on the internet for the sake of her children, but I am hoping this will put some pressure</div>
921<div>on you and others to do something.</div>
922<div>Thank you for sending your e-mail via this website and now I have written to you already and am waiting your reply.</div>
923<div>29 09 2006</div>
924<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:27:34)</span> :</span></div>
925<div>Hello T.R. There is a local MP Keith Martin urrently trying to he<span></span>lp the Crane family. Angel and her siblings in</div>
926<div>Victoria, and Margaret in Thailand.</div>
927<div>see below:</div>
928<div>Martin also sent a letter Tuesday to Foreign Affairs Minister Pet<span></span>er MacKay. He wants Foreign Affairs to ask the Thai</div>
929<div>government to extradite Margaret Crane to stand trial in British <span></span>Columbia.</div>
930<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/09/08/angel-crane-gets-the-he<span></span>lp-of-local-mp/</div>
931<div>Contact Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca MP. Keith Martin:</div>
932<div>Parliamentary Office:</div>
933<div>300 Justice Building</div>
934<div>Ottawa ON K1A 0A6</div>
935<div>Phone:</div>
936<div>Fax:</div>
937<div>Email: (613) 996-2625</div>
938</div>
939<p> </p>
940</div>
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945<div>(613) 996-9779</div>
946<div>MartiK@parl.gc.ca</div>
947<div>Constituency Office:</div>
948<div>666 Granderson Road</div>
949<div>Victoria BC V9B 2R8</div>
950<div>Phone:</div>
951<div>Fax:</div>
952<div>Email: (250) 474-6505</div>
953<div>(250) 474-5322</div>
954<div>MartiK1@parl.gc.ca</div>
955<div>Contact Info for Foreign Affairs Minister Peter McKay</div>
956<div>New Glasgow</div>
957<div>980 East River Road</div>
958<div>New Glasgow, NS</div>
959<div>B2H 3S8</div>
960<div>(T) 902-752-0226</div>
961<div>(F) 902-752-0284</div>
962<div>Email</div>
963<div>mackap1@parl.gc.ca</div>
964<div>Antigonish</div>
965<div>219 Main Street</div>
966<div>Suite 303</div>
967<div>Antigonish, NS</div>
968<div>B2G 2C1</div>
969<div>(T) 902-863-7005</div>
970<div>(F) 902-863-7006</div>
971<div>mackap2@parl.gc.ca</div>
972<div>Sheet Harbour</div>
973<div>22756 Highway 7</div>
974<div>Sheet Harbour, NS</div>
975<div>B0J 3B0</div>
976<div>(T) 902-885-3490</div>
977<div>(F) 902-654-2059</div>
978<div>Email</div>
979<div>mackap2@parl.gc.ca</div>
980<div>29 09 2006</div>
981<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:32:07)</span> :</span></div>
982<div>Hello Kay, I have been advised that Margaret does have representation, things seem to have gotten tighter for her, I</div>
983<div>just heard her Yoga priviledges have been taken away, no explanation as to why.</div>
984<div>She is able to have visitors but only for ten minutes a day. I al<span></span>so understand she is a vegetarian and having some</div>
985<div>difficulty with the food in prison. Friends I hear have been bringing her things like food and letters.</div>
986<div>I believe she does have an advocate in Thailand, I will try to fi<span></span>nd the info for you.</div>
987<div>Peace.</div>
988<div>29 09 2006</div>
989<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:39:52)</span> :</span></div>
990</div>
991<p> </p>
992</div>
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997<div>Kay,</div>
998<div>A friend brings food to Margaret and passes on news to Angel. The friend told her that Margaret has a hearing every</div>
999<div>12 days and has a new lawyer she trusts.</div>
1000<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/09/update-on-the-crane-fam<span></span>ily/</div>
1001<div>Hazel.</div>
1002<div>29 09 2006</div>
1003<div>Thailand resident<span> <span>(16:38:11)</span> :</span></div>
1004<div>Hazel,</div>
1005<div>Thank you very much for your prompt</div>
1006<div>reply. I’ll try and find out more</div>
1007<div>from this end as well.</div>
1008<div>4 10 2006</div>
1009<div>Kay Danes</div>
1010<p> </p>
1011<div>(23:57:48)<span> :</span></div>
1012<div>Thank you everyone.</div>
1013<div>We now have a campaign page for Margaret and are liaising with a <span></span>close friend of hers who is diligently writing to</div>
1014<div>the authorities in support.</div>
1015<div>http://www.usp.com.au/fpss/case-margaret_crane.html</div>
1016<div>If anyone has anything to share please let me know.</div>
1017<div>5 10 2006</div>
1018<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:41:41)</span> :</span></div>
1019<div>Thank you Kay! I will be by shortly.</div>
1020<div>So very happy to know Margaret is beginning to gather support.</div>
1021<div>I really hope she can feel our concern and love, and I really hope her children are aware their mother is truly cared for</div>
1022<div>by her peers.</div>
1023<div>With much appreciation,</div>
1024<div>Hazel</div>
1025<div>7 10 2006</div>
1026<div>Kay Danes<span> <span>(19:16:35)</span> :</span></div>
1027<div>I have been getting a number of emails from people asking me why <span></span>FPSS would even bother to list Margaret Crane</div>
1028<div>on our website. So I thought I’d just post a quick explaination h<span></span>ere for everyone to digest.</div>
1029<div>It is up to the individual what they believe is right and wrong. <span></span>Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.</div>
1030<div>Why do I not support the death penalty for Margaret Crane… given <span></span>that it is alleged that she killed another human</div>
1031<div>being…. the answer can be found, save repeating myself at this li<span></span>nk…</div>
1032<div>http://www.usp.com.au/fpss/death-penalty.html</div>
1033<div>In all cases listed on our website… we believe that ‘Everyone is <span></span>entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by</div>
1034<div>an independant and impartial tribunal, in the determination of hi<span></span>s rights and obligations and</div>
1035</div>
1036<p> </p>
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1042<div>of any criminal charge against him” Universal Declaration of Huma<span></span>n rights.</div>
1043<div>Margaret Crane will be judged by a Court in Thailand and the find<span></span>ings will be absolute. I do not believe that there is</div>
1044<div>any excuse or justification that can be used to excuse/justify a person for killing another human being. But I think that</div>
1045<div>in this case, it can show WHY [perhaps] they commit a crime. Thos<span></span>e factors ought to be a ‘consideration’ to a final</div>
1046<div>‘determination’ and thus enable an appropriate sentence and call <span></span>for appropriate levels of rehabiliative care. I think</div>
1047<div>that a prisoner of western origin would be better off receiving s<span></span>uch care in a western facility because the Thai prisons</div>
1048<div>are not fully equipt for rehabilitation by western standards.</div>
1049<div>Ultimately, if Margaret Crane is found guilty in a court of law a<span></span>nd sentenced accordingly [to the charge of</div>
1050<div>manslaughter], then it would be better for her to be transferred <span></span>in accordance with proper legal process [International</div>
1051<div>Prisoner Transfer Scheme], in due course, to a facility in Canada<span></span> where she would be able to have access to proper</div>
1052<div>rehabilitative care and family support.</div>
1053<div>Eventually, many prisoners are released back into society … and I<span></span> for one hope that before they are, they recieve</div>
1054<div>proper rehabilitative care. Don’t you?</div>
1055<div>8 10 2006</div>
1056<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:01:02)</span> :</span></div>
1057<div>Yes Kay, I do. Thanks for sharing your link here.</div>
1058<div>9 10 2006</div>
1059<div>Kay Danes<span> <span>(19:07:43)</span> :</span></div>
1060<div>Hi,</div>
1061<div>Can I also add that I speak from experience. I was once held host<span></span>age in a gulag at the mercy of a paranoid Communist</div>
1062<div>regime, where I saw unspeakable human rights violations acted out<span></span> each day in a place where the outside world can’t</div>
1063<div>hear the cries for help.</div>
1064<div>I was one of the lucky ones… my Government fought hard for my and<span></span> my husband’s release.</div>
1065<div>But I know what it feels like to be trapped in uncertainty.. and <span></span>alongside ‘real’ criminals… whom many no one would</div>
1066<div>give the time of day too. But I learned to look past human frailt<span></span>y and failure… to see that everyone makes mistakes…</div>
1067<div>humans are not perfect… and ultimately their families suffer a tr<span></span>emendous amount of heartache! Nothing is ever</div>
1068<div>black or white.</div>
1069<div>9 10 2006</div>
1070<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(20:12:13)</span> :</span></div>
1071<div>Dear Kay or Hazel,</div>
1072<div>Is there any way to send items to Margaret that may be useful to <span></span>her such as toiletries, books, packaged food items?</div>
1073<div>11 10 2006</div>
1074<div>hazel8500</div>
1075<p> </p>
1076<div>(10:03:41)<span> :</span></div>
1077<div>Hi Hawaiian Eyes, I’ll leave that question for Kay Danes, I think she knows best on that front. The only suggestion I</div>
1078<div>can give other than speaking w/ Kay is to contact the MP working <span></span>on her behalf. I’ve posted his contact info in this</div>
1079<div>thread (above)</div>
1080<div>11 10 2006</div>
1081</div>
1082<p> </p>
1083</div>
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1088<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:05:34)</span> :</span></div>
1089<div>Hi Kay, I’ve been to your site and read your biography, and am absolutely in awe of your accomplishments. I have</div>
1090<div>you listed under my Heroine Tag on this blog. I fully believe in <span></span>what you are doing, and support you wholeheartedly.</div>
1091<div>Peace,</div>
1092<div>Hazel.</div>
1093<div>15 10 2006</div>
1094<div>Kay Danes</div>
1095<div><span>(18:25:11)</span> :</div>
1096<div>Hi.</div>
1097<div>Thanks Hazel for the lovely encouragment… I do appreciate it.</div>
1098<div>i’ve just sent an email off to one of Margaret’s regular visitors<span></span> to ask what the best way is should people want to send</div>
1099<div>care packages. I’ll post here as soon as I know. thanks for your kindness and understanding.</div>
1100<div>And my pre-empted response to all those about to send me hate mai<span></span>l again, just save it will you. If you don’t want to</div>
1101<div>support Margaret then don’t. If you don’t want to care about help<span></span>ing someone who has lost their way.. then don’t</div>
1102<div>care. But keep your nasty emails to yourself because I have bette<span></span>r things to do with my time then listen to your</div>
1103<div>dribble. If I have compassion enough to try to help others, then <span></span>that’s none of your business to attack me. Perhaps</div>
1104<div>oneday, your loved one will need help… and then you might see tha<span></span>t life is not so black and white.</div>
1105<div>take care all.</div>
1106<div>Kay</div>
1107<div>x</div>
1108<div>18 10 2006</div>
1109<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(16:36:04)</span> :</span></div>
1110<div>Fabulous, thanks Kay.</div>
1111<div>Kay Danes Rocks!</div>
1112<div>18 10 2006</div>
1113<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(17:12:52)</span> :</span></div>
1114<div>Haiwaiin Eyes, this is for you!</div>
1115<div>Hi sweetie, hope you get this, just wanted to say I hope you are okay after the big earth quake. Drop me a line if you</div>
1116<div>have a chance.</div>
1117<div>28 10 2006</div>
1118<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:14:21)</span> :</span></div>
1119<div>Perhaps someone can help me with some questions I have:</div>
1120<div>Is Daniel really dead?</div>
1121<div>Is there a death cerificate or obituary? Where is he buried?</div>
1122<div>Or Is Jeana taking the rap for him going “underground”?</div>
1123</div>
1124<p> </p>
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1130<div>He once told me not to worry if I heard stories of his death that<span></span> he had gone “underground” before and would do it</div>
1131<div>again.</div>
1132<div>What were all his rantings 1998-2001 about a coming jihad against<span></span> the US?</div>
1133<div>Why did he name 2 of his sons Jamil?</div>
1134<div>What is the significance of the book of Jamil?</div>
1135<div>Why did he tell me that he loves=d that I was so Persian (Iranian<span></span>) meaning that I was Arabic like him (his claim that</div>
1136<div>he was from UAE) but stupid (as Saudis and UAE people consider th<span></span>e Persian empire to have fallen because they</div>
1137<div>have honor but not the great cunnning and intelligence of the Bed<span></span>oin peoples of the Gulf)?</div>
1138<div>Why did he have photos of himself with Arabic garb and insist I c<span></span>all him Ahmed?</div>
1139<div>Why has Felicia (probably the closest of anyone in the world to h<span></span>im) just recently married to an Iranian and</div>
1140<div>reportedly moved to Iran?</div>
1141<div>What does Jeana know about all this?</div>
1142<div>28 10 2006</div>
1143<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(09:42:50)</span> :</span></div>
1144<div>Dear Haiwaiin Eyes,</div>
1145<div>I think I recognise a bit of what you are going through right now, albeit under different circumstances.</div>
1146<div>Its like being hit over and over again with these little bits of <span></span>the puzzel and trying to figure out how to put all the</div>
1147<div>pieces together. Worse, you’re forced to do it all between flashe<span></span>s of lightening on a dark stormy night w/ no working</div>
1148<div>electricity.</div>
1149<div>Don’t panic, you have time, and the answers will come.</div>
1150<div>You’ve raised some very interesting concerns here. I have no answ<span></span>ers for you but I will look, and I invite anyone else</div>
1151<div>following this to also look, and if anyone has any concrete proof of Daniels death, certificate or burial arrangements</div>
1152<div>please let us know.</div>
1153<div>Another thing Hawaiin Eyes</div>
1154<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;Why did he tell me that he loves=d that I was so Persian (Iran<span></span>ian) meaning that I was Arabic like him (his claim</div>
1155<div>that he was from UAE) but stupid (as Saudis and UAE people consid<span></span>er the Persian empire to have fallen because they</div>
1156<div>have honor but not the great cunnning and intelligence of the Bed<span></span>oin peoples of the Gulf)?</div>
1157<div>Why did he have photos of himself with Arabic garb and insist I c<span></span>all him Ahmed?&gt;&gt;&gt;</div>
1158<div>I have a guess about this, Daniel was a master of fantasy, by saying these things to you, he was pulling you in to his</div>
1159<div>fantasy by tying you to him through empathy and by giving you an “honored” place by his side. Hawaiin Eyes, what</div>
1160<div>Daniel likely saw in you was a bright light, he recognised you were a special woman, probably more so than you ever</div>
1161<div>knew yourself, but he wanted to possess all that was special and good. And therefore he wanted to posess you, and all</div>
1162<div>the other “angels” he came across.</div>
1163<div>Also, Hawain Eyes, I believe he told you he loved you, because in his own way, he probably did.</div>
1164<div>Sarada describes a similar method used by Daniel towards her. Onl<span></span>y it was a komono. this komono wasn’t even his,</div>
1165<div>he appropriated it from someone else in the house, but told Sarad<span></span>a it was a gift from some mystic he met.</div>
1166<div>What I am seeing is that Daniel was a seeker of knowledge and wis<span></span>dom but his heart wasn’t in the right place. He</div>
1167</div>
1168<p> </p>
1169</div>
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1174<div>likely was experimenting with all sorts of esoteric wisdom, inclu<span></span>ding eastern western northern and southern. Arabic</div>
1175<div>culture is ancient and beautiful, and he was likely attracted to <span></span>the exotic nature of the culture. I believe the Arabic</div>
1176<div>garb, the Komono and various other guises of Daniel’s including h<span></span>is aliases were working props to underscore his</div>
1177<div>“stories”, and to give them credence and power.</div>
1178<div>Another thing I have been finding, is that Daniel’s core group de<span></span>scribed in Sarada’s document had ties to other cultic</div>
1179<div>groups, scientology for one, MLM pyramid operations for two (we know which one</div>
1180<div>)</div>
1181<div>I am positive that Daniel had his hand in a number of cultic like<span></span> groups, and was well versed in how to manipulate</div>
1182<div>others for personal prosperity.</div>
1183<div>And it will all come out…</div>
1184<div>28 10 2006</div>
1185<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:02:59)</span> :</span></div>
1186<div>What is the significance of the book of Jamil?</div>
1187<div>Began looking into this Hawaiin Eyes</div>
1188<div>google search, didn’t give much</div>
1189<div>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;q=%22book+of+Jamil%22&amp;btnG=Search&amp;meta=</div>
1190<div>By following the info in this document I was able to determin who<span></span> this Jamil is, He’s an Islamic leader from the Black</div>
1191<div>Panther party of the 60’s Atlanta Georgia. His name was H. Rap Br<span></span>own, Jamil ibn Darraj is his Islamic name.</div>
1192<div>Here’s some info from Wikipedia</div>
1193<div>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rap_Brown</div>
1194<div>I’m still looking for The book of Jamil if anyone has any resourc<span></span>es, that’d be great.</div>
1195<div>28 10 2006</div>
1196<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:05:08)</span> :</span></div>
1197<div>http://www.pacificnews.org/jinn/stories/6.09/000510-jamil.html</div>
1198<div>28 10 2006</div>
1199<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(23:56:06)</span> :</span></div>
1200<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1201<div>Thank you!</div>
1202<div>You have put all this in a clear context that makes a lot of sens<span></span>e to me.</div>
1203<div>“It is like being hit over and over again with these little bits <span></span>of the puzzel and trying to figure out how to put all the</div>
1204<div>pieces together. Worse, you’re forced to do it all between flashe<span></span>s of lightening on a dark stormy night w/ no working</div>
1205<div>electricity.</div>
1206<div>Don’t panic, you have time, and the answers will come”</div>
1207<div>I do have faith that the answers will come.</div>
1208<div>I have already been enriched by your previous comments about “lov<span></span>e bombing” tacticians and reading Sarada’s</div>
1209<div>account and talking/writing to others that had been run over by t<span></span>his fellow. There is great joy in “you shall know the</div>
1210</div>
1211<p> </p>
1212</div>
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1217<div>truth and the truth shall set you free”.</div>
1218<div>I can never get back those years. But I am at peace and I do have<span></span> a wonderful life that is very full and increasingly</div>
1219<div>productive. I put these questions on line to try to find the answ<span></span>ers to both put my own psyche back together as well as</div>
1220<div>with the thought that it might help someone else suffering somewh<span></span>ere in confused silence as I was for years.</div>
1221<div>Peace,</div>
1222<div>HI</div>
1223<div>29 10 2006</div>
1224<div>interested party<span> <span>(05:16:38)</span> :</span></div>
1225<div>I know his Thai wife and she has 4 of his children and all of this guys expensive houses and property in Thailand. He</div>
1226<div>sure had a lot of money from somewhere!</div>
1227<div>29 10 2006</div>
1228<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(14:42:31)</span> :</span></div>
1229<div>I am so glad to hear of your life being so full and happy today, despite the turbulence of your past. I hope others</div>
1230<div>reading this will take that into consideration if currently in si<span></span>milar situations. There is always hope.</div>
1231<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;I can never get back those years.&gt;&gt;&gt;</div>
1232<div>No but those years were certainly not wasted. I like to think of past experiences as seeding our future, its how we deal</div>
1233<div>with our pasts in the present that will really determine the outc<span></span>ome.</div>
1234<div>Its the joy of (truthful) discovery you describe in your last com<span></span>ment, that is worth all the work.</div>
1235<div>My present is informed by my past, and my future in dependent on <span></span>how I work my “present” today. Or at least, that’s</div>
1236<div>what I like to think.</div>
1237<div>Hzl</div>
1238<div>29 10 2006</div>
1239<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(14:50:09)</span> :</span></div>
1240<div>Hi Interested Party,</div>
1241<div>thanks for writing.</div>
1242<div>I wonder how his Thai widow is holding up?</div>
1243<div>by the way, are these 4 children also hers?</div>
1244<div>I certainly hope her children have been provided for by Dubie. It doesn’t seem like his Canadian children have been,</div>
1245<div>(by him, that is)unless his will is in probate or something. Has <span></span>there been a will discussed, do you know if there is a</div>
1246<div>death certificate?</div>
1247<div>Thank you!</div>
1248<div>Hazel.</div>
1249<div>4 11 2006</div>
1250<div>specialk (karen davis)<span> <span>(03:04:43)</span> :</span></div>
1251<div>Hi all, I appreciate all of your posts. All of us had our own experiences with George Patrick Dubie. All of us that</div>
1252</div>
1253<p> </p>
1254</div>
1255<div>
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1258<div>28 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
1259<div>knew him intemately, loved him and knew he was like no other. You<span></span> all must agree with me, that we also came to</div>
1260<div>fear him, question him, doubt him and eventually got away from hi<span></span>m in one way or another. Either he left or we left</div>
1261<div>and then finally, he was gone from all with his passing. There’s <span></span>no easy answer as to how we deal with our inner</div>
1262<div>emotions and lasting torment of being involved with him, for me, <span></span>it’s our children that helped me through.</div>
1263<div>I do have info on the Jamil subject though……….</div>
1264<div>Being the mother of his first born son, Jamil Kaleo Shoblom, born<span></span> 04/12/78</div>
1265<div>I would like to shed some light on this. I only saw Dubie, three <span></span>or four times during my pregnancy with Jamil. I,</div>
1266<div>Karen, choose the name by myself, without his knowledge at all. J<span></span>amil is Arabic for Handsome. I just liked the name.</div>
1267<div>I was living on Oahu at the time, so I wanted a Hawaiian middle n<span></span>ame, therefore, Kaleo, which means the</div>
1268<div>voice/music. My kids (3) did have the last name Dubie for awhile,<span></span> but I had it changed back to my maiden name. I’ll</div>
1269<div>write later, but want to see if this message comes through. Last <span></span>time I tryed to post here it didn’t show up. Later,</div>
1270<div>Karen</div>
1271<div>5 11 2006</div>
1272<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:16:32)</span> :</span></div>
1273<div>Thank you so much for that answer on the name Jamil. I can only i<span></span>magine that GPD may have felt a real heart ache of</div>
1274<div>abandoning his first born son that led him to choose the name aga<span></span>in. Tragically that child and his twin sister were lost.</div>
1275<div>This is all so sad on so many levels.</div>
1276<div>You are a great soul, Kari and greatly deserving of all the bless<span></span>ings of your present life. Thank you for your kind</div>
1277<div>wisdom and for honestly sharing.</div>
1278<div>Aloha pumehana,</div>
1279<div>HE</div>
1280<div>5 11 2006</div>
1281<div>goneaway<span> <span>(18:48:34)</span> :</span></div>
1282<div>I was once a friend og Maggie Clinchy, Margaret Crane, Jeannie Crane.. whatever alias she happened to be using at</div>
1283<div>the time…</div>
1284<div>She left one of her daughters in my care with poisoned food so that when the child died, I would be blamed. I caught</div>
1285<div>on to the sickness however and had the girl cared for in the loca<span></span>l hospital and the Mother (Jeannie, Maggie) refused to</div>
1286<div>contact me to see the child. I had Children’s Services involved a<span></span>nd found out about the cult dealings and sexual abuse</div>
1287<div>BY JEANNIE AND the child’s FATHER. I was young and got scared, but knew the girl was in good hands with her</div>
1288<div>grandparents (until later when Jeannie got custody again because <span></span>she had a good expensive lawyer and the ministry</div>
1289<div>was afraid of it all). I pray that girl and her siblings are safe<span></span> now that they are away from their mother, and I will pray</div>
1290<div>for their sister taking care of them too. It is better that they <span></span>are away from their mother and safe in Canada.</div>
1291<div>The woman (Jeannie, Maggie, whatever) is messed up. I could go on<span></span> and on about the problems she brought into my</div>
1292<div>life, and what I witnessed of her as a mother… I hate to see anyo<span></span>ne suffer, but the woman has had many chances to</div>
1293<div>get her life straight… if she chose this route, she is getting he<span></span>r just punishment.</div>
1294<div>Thank God He protected me from her.</div>
1295<div>7 11 2006</div>
1296<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:33:22)</span> :</span></div>
1297<div>Thank you Goneaway for sharing your recollections here. I am terribly saddend to say, if true, I’m shocked, but not</div>
1298<div>overly surprised. I hope that all of Margaret’s children are safe<span></span> and accounted for. If you read back a ways in these</div>
1299<div>comments, you may find a reference to many children being fathere<span></span>d by Daniel on Margaret while in various places</div>
1300<div>in Canada, and also some stuff about forged birth certificates an<span></span>d other documents. What you claim here, sort of</div>
1301<div>reinforces those earlier allegations left on this blog.</div>
1302</div>
1303<p> </p>
1304</div>
1305<div>
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1308<div>29 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
1309<div>Despite what some people may still believe, Daniel Duboie or aka <span></span>whatever name he favored at the moment, was a</div>
1310<div>cult figure, leader and a criminal. Margaret, as we see in Sarada<span></span>’s document was one of Daniel’s earliest “followers”,</div>
1311<div>and as you point out, Margaret did make her choices and those cho<span></span>ices ended with multiple shots and murder charges.</div>
1312<div>This is atually a good argument for Margaret to be returned to Ca<span></span>nada, and to avoid the death penalty in Thailand. If</div>
1313<div>she remains in Thailand, and is found guilty and executed, Canada<span></span> and the international community will lose an</div>
1314<div>opportunity to uncover the vastness of this cultic influence, and<span></span> never reach all the victims, such as this little girl left</div>
1315<div>in your care with poisoned food.</div>
1316<div>I’ll continue to pray for all of Margarets children, and also all<span></span> of Daniels. Poor kids, this is just about the saddest and</div>
1317<div>most unfair family tragedy I have ever seen.</div>
1318<div>7 11 2006</div>
1319<div>Lee<span> <span>(22:19:23)</span> :</span></div>
1320<div>Someone should also be questioning Margaret regarding a person by<span></span> the name of Jon Onuma aka Jade Yoshino.</div>
1321<div>Apparently there is a connection with a missing person by the nam<span></span>e of Kristen Modafferi.She may well have some</div>
1322<div>information on this since she was an early follower of Daniel’s. <span></span>Check out the website:</div>
1323<div>www.findkristen.com</div>
1324<div>8 11 2006</div>
1325<div>goneaway<span> <span>(10:52:46)</span> :</span></div>
1326<div>we can uncover the truth behind the cults without bringing Maggie<span></span> back to face charges here in canada…. She did the</div>
1327<div>crime there, pay the price there! Why shouldn’t she have the deat<span></span>h penalty? SHE gave the “death penalty” to HIM! …</div>
1328<div>and it was by firing squad! HERSELF! (I am glad he’s gone too).</div>
1329<div>11 11 2006</div>
1330<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(01:40:16)</span> :</span></div>
1331<div>Goneaway, Eyewitnesses indicate he pulled the gun, he threatend her, they struggled, he got away, she shot him. She</div>
1332<div>claims she shot him first, before he could carry out his threat o<span></span>f having her killed in Thai Land. They’ve ruined each</div>
1333<div>others lives. That ship has sailed.</div>
1334<div>Now what is important, the way I see it is to piece together as m<span></span>uch as can be pieced together about Dubie and</div>
1335<div>Margaret and Sarada’s and Jon Onuma and yes Geri’s parts in what <span></span>is shaping up to be a multinational cultic</div>
1336<div>operation that may have ties to some pretty nasty and powerful pe<span></span>ople and institutions including the UN.</div>
1337<div>Killing Margaret will profit no one but those very people that wo<span></span>rked in league with Dubie. The only people who will</div>
1338<div>benefit from Margarets death or silencing are people who must be <span></span>stopped.</div>
1339<div>If Margaret is executed, what happens to every thing she knows? What happens to other possible children like the girl</div>
1340<div>left with you to die? You think she’s the only one out there? It is for HER and the others like her that may still be</div>
1341<div>sufferring that we need to know what Margaret and the others know.</div>
1342<div>Sometimes vengence falls short of justice, and this is one of tho<span></span>se times.</div>
1343<div>11 11 2006</div>
1344<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(01:43:06)</span> :</span></div>
1345<div>Lee I absolutely agree with you! I hope, and expect, they are, checking into connections.</div>
1346<div>www.findkristen.com</div>
1347<div>14 11 2006</div>
1348</div>
1349<p> </p>
1350</div>
1351<div>
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1355<div>goneaway<span> <span>(20:41:31)</span> :</span></div>
1356<div>you know, I would tend to agree with you if I didn’t know Maggie so well. She has a way of getting away with</div>
1357<div>things– do YOU want to risk her getting off and getting those kids back to do more harm to them?</div>
1358<div>I don’t WANT to see her die- She’s a human being!!… but I do thin<span></span>k it is fair for a person who commits a crime to</div>
1359<div>get the JUST punishment. I am glad he is dead and can not hurt th<span></span>ose kids or anyone else.. the guy was evil to its</div>
1360<div>greatest extent. BUT- Maggie is a very very smart woman and has g<span></span>otten away with trying to murder in the past (look</div>
1361<div>into it!) She needs to be locked up. SHe needs to be punished. I <span></span>stick to my belief that she killed him, regardless of the</div>
1362<div>circumstances, and needs to be tried in the country of her crime.</div>
1363<div>If you had looked into the eyes of her sick and dieing little gir<span></span>l and nursed her back to health (all because of her</div>
1364<div>mothers doing) you would want to see this woman get a just punish<span></span>ment too.</div>
1365<div>15 11 2006</div>
1366<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:41:26)</span> :</span></div>
1367<div>Hello Gone Away,</div>
1368<div>You certainly have a compelling point of view, and an important o<span></span>ne IMO to be shared, thank you for doing so here.</div>
1369<div>I certainly do not want Margaret’s children to come to any furthe<span></span>r harm at the hands of their mother, father or</div>
1370<div>acquaintances of either.</div>
1371<div>I am not saying let her come back to Canada and move in with her <span></span>kids, I am asking that she be extradited so Canada</div>
1372<div>can deal with the problems Canada has Spawned.</div>
1373<div>I would also like to see an accounting of all of Margarets childr<span></span>en. I am very much concerned that there may be other</div>
1374<div>children of Margeret and Daniel out there somewhere…</div>
1375<div>Who are these children born in the Canadian Praries with forged d<span></span>ocuments? And what is all this about forged birth</div>
1376<div>certificates and stuff anyway?</div>
1377<div>Part and parcel of the shooting of Mr. Dubie in Thailand by Nargaret, is their shared history as, well, cult leaders. So</div>
1378<div>far it seems to me that Margaret was just one of many women strun<span></span>g along and used (willingly it seems) to further his</div>
1379<div>insane agenda’s. It is also so far an undisputed fact that Margar<span></span>et or Maggie is indeed one of his very first and oldest</div>
1380<div>“disciples”. What she knows could be of significant importance, n<span></span>ot only to the Thai people themselves, but for the</div>
1381<div>international community, the UN, the various ahsrams and spiritua<span></span>l ‘leaders’ the man was involved with, all of these</div>
1382<div>relationships need to be explored.</div>
1383<div>Mr. Dubies death may have been a crime, but the crimes that led u<span></span>p to this final act need to be investigated, and</div>
1384<div>forgive me but in a contest of his death vs her death vs. the cur<span></span>rent LIVES of victims that may need to be reached that</div>
1385<div>are out there somewhere I will side on the living victims. Right <span></span>now their needs are to be indentified. WHo else can</div>
1386<div>do that? Will Geri step up? Jon Onuma? Who?</div>
1387<div>I do want Margaret to recieve just treatment, for this crime, for<span></span> any and all crimes she may have participated in to this</div>
1388<div>point but my focus still is, always has been, and will continue t<span></span>o be on the children.</div>
1389<div>Executing Margaret will not help her children, what kind of prece<span></span>dent will that set for children currently living in</div>
1390<div>similar circumstances? What will that teach them? Not to tell. No<span></span>t to talk about the abuse going on in the house. To</div>
1391<div>suffer in silence. And then what? The cults have a generation ripe for the picking of disaffected, lost miserable youth.</div>
1392<div>The solution needs to aim for justice for the living, not vengean<span></span>ce for the dead.</div>
1393<div>16 11 2006</div>
1394<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:21:45)</span> :</span></div>
1395<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1396<div>I was asked to be a witness for the defense of Margaret. As I have brought legal actions against GPD and have a very</div>
1397<div>close knowledge of him and his behaviour, assisted in other court<span></span> actions brought by aggrieved women, I might be in</div>
1398<div>a position to speak to his private persona and character.</div>
1399</div>
1400<p> </p>
1401</div>
1402<div>
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1406<div>I have declined this request for a number of reasons.</div>
1407<div>I do feel strongly committed to doggedly seeking and speaking the<span></span> *truth* in *love* (ironically the Hawaiian middle</div>
1408<div>names of our twins that I lost due to abuse). I feel strongly tha<span></span>t in the end the truth is discoverable and is liberating</div>
1409<div>and that all lies and liars do harm to us all. Especially the mos<span></span>t vulnerable, the children.</div>
1410<div>I have the utmost appreciation for the type of extreme duress tha<span></span>t one can feel in response to the intricate behaviour</div>
1411<div>and deceptions that GPD could unleash and therefore my sympathies<span></span> lie with Jeana’s suffering, but I have seen</div>
1412<div>testimony implicating Jeana in perpetration of his predation of w<span></span>omen. I believe that testimony to be credible. I have</div>
1413<div>also seen and heard from neighbours evidence of child neglect. I <span></span>suffered a great deal but there was a cross-road</div>
1414<div>where I could have either “KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT” as he told me or walked/ran away. I opted OUT. I didn’t</div>
1415<div>stop loving him. I still love him. That is not the issue. I saw t<span></span>hings that I could not reconcile with his presentation of</div>
1416<div>himself as a seeker of enlightenment. Enough said.</div>
1417<div>I feel that Jeana enabled him, but she was not alone. You really <span></span>touch a nerve when you mention Geri. I am</div>
1418<div>incredulous on this. If you are waiting for personal prosperity Geri to step up and “Stand in the Power of Truth” on</div>
1419<div>this one, I would not hold my breath. Either she truly does not k<span></span>now what he was up to or she didn’t care as long as</div>
1420<div>he kept up a certain public image (that she is still parading on <span></span>the internet with wedding photos and her mantra that</div>
1421<div>“Herbalife-can-stand-the test-of-time-and-all-the-petty-assaults-<span></span>of-rumors” blah blah blah). There is so much harm</div>
1422<div>being done by this failure to acknowledge and reveal the truth about GPD. I feel that part of the foreign pressure ( I</div>
1423<div>understand from independent sources) on Thai authorities to “thro<span></span>w the book” at Jeana is based on an extreme need to</div>
1424<div>deny the upsetting truths about GPD. I think I understand this. H<span></span>e was an amazing person and capable of profound</div>
1425<div>love; for those he shielded, he provided an ethereal intoxicating<span></span> world of boundless love and possibilities. But this</div>
1426<div>was an illusion. To step outside the walls of that haven was a ho<span></span>rrid experience indeed. It is very hard to let that go</div>
1427<div>and to accept the full dichotomy of his personality.</div>
1428<div>I agree with you that justice for the living is the top priority.<span></span> I have nothing to do with the probate situation, but I fear</div>
1429<div>that Jeana’s children will be short changed or cheated. The perso<span></span>nal prosperity proposal (above in this thread) that</div>
1430<div>Jeana is “let it be known” a “lesbian” and that her children were<span></span> not naturally conceived and therefore do not count</div>
1431<div>somehow is all bizare and very upsetting but speaks to potential <span></span>plans a foot. At the time of this crime despite being</div>
1432<div>divorced Daniel was still part owner of a very expensive beach front home.</div>
1433<div>This is a truly heartbreaking story on so many levels. But despit<span></span>e the compelling nature of the argument to extradite</div>
1434<div>Jeana, I do not see that the Kingdom of Thailand would be willing<span></span> to engage these far reaching longer term issues</div>
1435<div>involving children in light of the intense assault to the sense o<span></span>f order and rule of law that Thais feel witnessing a</div>
1436<div>capital crime involving a fire arm and “farang”s. Is there progre<span></span>ss from the MP’s initiative?</div>
1437<div>For what it is worth, I think at this point the ball has to be in<span></span> Jeana’s court. I think that she needs to step up and give</div>
1438<div>complete testimony of all she knows and after this is done and es<span></span>pecially if older crimes are solved, then there may be</div>
1439<div>grounds for clemency from the Kingdom of Thailand or extradition <span></span>to Canada.</div>
1440<div>Aloha,</div>
1441<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
1442<div>18 11 2006</div>
1443<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:05:42)</span> :</span></div>
1444<div>H.E.</div>
1445<div>Dang woman! You have been through the mill havn’t you?</div>
1446<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;I feel that part of the foreign pressure ( I understand from i<span></span>ndependent sources) on Thai authorities to “throw the</div>
1447<div>book” at Jeana is based on an extreme need to deny the upsetting <span></span>truths about GPD.&gt;&gt;&gt;</div>
1448<div>Okay, here you’ve touched a nerve. This is a big concern of mine.</div>
1449</div>
1450<p> </p>
1451</div>
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1456<div>GPD had excellent “connections” and in rather high places as well<span></span> from the little I’ve been able to determine.</div>
1457<div>Jon Mark Karr’s ruse to get out of thailand on the back of Jon Bonnet’s controversy was despicable, but why’d he do</div>
1458<div>it? Why’d he do it WHEN he did it?</div>
1459<div>Then there was the coup, backed by the esteemed King of Thailand.</div>
1460<div>Something big is happening in Thailand right now, and I am sure i<span></span>t has something to do with the traficking of</div>
1461<div>children.</div>
1462<div>The whole world knows what goes on there, with all the talk about<span></span> the Farangs in Thailand, you gotta wonder who’s</div>
1463<div>letting them in and allowing them to use Thai people the way they<span></span> do?</div>
1464<div>Is it a coincidence that GPD was holed up in Thailand? When I consider his back ground of control and abuse and</div>
1465<div>from what I’m hearing here about alleged child abuse…I feel ill.</div>
1466<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;For what it is worth, I think at this point the ball has to be<span></span> in Jeana’s court. I think that she needs to step up and</div>
1467<div>give complete testimony of all she knows and after this is done a<span></span>nd especially if older crimes are solved, then there</div>
1468<div>may be grounds for clemency from the Kingdom of Thailand or extra<span></span>dition to Canada.&gt;&gt;&gt;</div>
1469<div>I agree, she needs to step up and take responsibility. But H.I. w<span></span>ho’s she going to tell? Thai officials? Who is she to</div>
1470<div>rely on to get the truth out? A court appointed lawyer? The gov’t of Thailand that is in the midst of a shake up and</div>
1471<div>scandal of their own? A gov’t that has possibly been complicit (i<span></span>n the recent past) in attracting and retaining an entire</div>
1472<div>economy based on sex tourism? Of minors?</div>
1473<div>I have no answers H.E., and you have some tuff decisions to make <span></span>and stand by. Perhaps what is needed, is</div>
1474<div>corroboration. I’m not suggesting you act for Jeanna’s defence, o<span></span>r that you do anything at all, to be honest. You have</div>
1475<div>to take care of you and your family.</div>
1476<div>But I do hope that Dubies surviving victims get in contact with e<span></span>ach other, I think its up to the survivors and</div>
1477<div>sympathizers to get the world to listen, and to understand how th<span></span>is happens, and to uncover the effects of these kinds</div>
1478<div>of abuses on the fabric of society.</div>
1479<div>Aloha, and Peace to you Hawaiineyes!</div>
1480<div>PS I’ll look into the MP’s Progress, and leave you a link.</div>
1481<div>xo</div>
1482<div>19 11 2006</div>
1483<div>fruittbatt<span> <span>(08:54:43)</span> :</span></div>
1484<div>Hi Hazel,</div>
1485<div>I am confused! There seem to be hints here that GPD may have been<span></span> involved in the child-sex trade in Thailand, but</div>
1486<div>no actual evidence. There is the strange co-incidence(?) of GPD and John Onuma allegedly visiting Nicaragua, where</div>
1487<div>Karen Modafferi was allegedly seen years after her disappearance, but is there any other evidence which you may not</div>
1488<div>yet be able to share with us and which might implicate Dubie or i<span></span>mportant figures in Thailand?</div>
1489<div>Like you, I have smelled a very large rat….as yet unidentified…..<span></span>in the Dubie business empire. I realise that some</div>
1490<div>may have no option but to keep information to themselves in order<span></span> to survive if Mr Dubie had the extremely powerful</div>
1491<div>connections I suspect he did.</div>
1492<div>thank you again for providing this safe space where survivors and those of us who have been moved by the tragedy</div>
1493<div>can gather to give and receive support. It is most refreshing aft<span></span>er the ridicule of male-posters on the Thai Visa forum.</div>
1494<div>fruittbatt</div>
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1502<div>19 11 2006</div>
1503<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(21:42:09)</span> :</span></div>
1504<div>Hi Fruittbatt,</div>
1505<div>I’m sorry to hear you’ve been dealing with ridicule at the Thai V<span></span>isa forum.</div>
1506<div>I’m afraid I am not familiar with the drama over there, I’m full <span></span>up over here!</div>
1507<div>I am pleased that you are comfortable</div>
1508<div>here.</div>
1509<div>As to your questions, I’m afraid I don’t have any evidence of anything, just the words given to me on this blog and</div>
1510<div>the meager media reports I’ve managed to find.</div>
1511<div>Just to be clear, I am not an investigator or reporter, I have no<span></span> inside info, I’m simply a house wife with a deep</div>
1512<div>interest in cult crimes for personal reasons not related to this <span></span>case.</div>
1513<div>I can share with you a few thoughts and things, but again they are only thoughts not evidence or fact:</div>
1514<div>In 2005 I had a really cool portal website I used to go to click <span></span>once a day and sponsers would feed a child, or save a</div>
1515<div>patch of land, or a species.</div>
1516<div>This site was seemingly affiliated with the UN and other recognis<span></span>ed organizations which gave it a certain credibility.</div>
1517<div>I began to find myself being pulled deeper and deeper into sites <span></span>and causes geared to attract consciencious people</div>
1518<div>trying to find ways to help the needy. You know come and work with us, save this that. I seriously wanted to pull up</div>
1519<div>stakes run off to Africa and hand out vaccinations, condoms, hugs<span></span>. I can imagine how many people actually may have</div>
1520<div>done just such a thing? Perhaps Kristen?</div>
1521<div>btw Nicuragua was one of the area’s as was Thailand where people could go and volunteer. There were many many</div>
1522<div>other locations too.</div>
1523<div>A few months later, the link was down, and news reports were circ<span></span>ulating that this site was a cult portal directed by</div>
1524<div>some mysterious cultic figure (no names used) with affiliations t<span></span>o the UN, and a well known health food suppliment</div>
1525<div>company.</div>
1526<div>Then the sory kind of vanished.</div>
1527<div>Took the links out of my computer. I should have hung onto them a<span></span>nd tracked back to find out who owned them.</div>
1528<div>Fast forward, I read in the paper about Margaret Crane, hear Dubi<span></span>e’s name for the first time, and stumble onto</div>
1529<div>findkristen.com and read about the links between Jon, Daniel and <span></span>Kristen, Herbalife, Nicuragua, and began finding</div>
1530<div>that dubie thought he was jesus or like jesus.</div>
1531<div>Thats when I start wondering about this other site.</div>
1532<div>I made a posting here on this blog, and was contacted by Robin Sh<span></span>aran, who filled me in a little on what she</div>
1533<div>remembered of Margaret and Daniel Dubie and personally was able t<span></span>o confirm Dubies self identification with</div>
1534<div>characters like Powder, and yes like Jesus. She also was able to <span></span>attest to what many other posters have, that he indeed</div>
1535<div>had some kind of power, an ability to heal, and ability to manife<span></span>st “stuff”.</div>
1536<div>I read Sarada’s Long Letter to a friend, I learned of Dubies trie<span></span>d and true methods of cultish domination, his wealth,</div>
1537<div>his ties to other cult figures and prominant people in hollywood <span></span>and around the world.</div>
1538<div>Two weeks later, John Mark Karr flees Thailand under some prepost<span></span>erous ruse. And shortly after that? Thailand has a</div>
1539<div>bloodless coup restoring power temporarily to the military leader<span></span> Lt.-Gen. Prapart Sakuntanak, under the watchful eye</div>
1540<div>of King Bhumibol Adulyadej.</div>
1541<div>Why then? Why that time?</div>
1542<div>In part it was good timing, Chavas was in NY preparing to call Bu<span></span>sh the Devil, along with Thailand’s millionaire PM.</div>
1543<div>The cat was away, in other words.</div>
1544<div>So thats that for the timing. But for what reason was the coup ex<span></span>ecuted?</div>
1545<div>In April, the PM nearly resigned over a fraud case. Now it came o<span></span>ut that he had also evaded paying taxes on a large</div>
1546<div>sale of property.</div>
1547<div>Does this not suggest the leadership of the Thailand that the lik<span></span>es of Daniel Dubie and John Mark Karr thrived in, was</div>
1548<div>corrupt?</div>
1549<div>The PM is a multimillionair, as supposed leader of his nation wha<span></span>t harm would it have brought him to pay his taxes?</div>
1550<div>Those taxes belong to the people?! If he could compromise his peo<span></span>ple for a few measly bucks despite his wealth,</div>
1551<div>what other nefarious deals was he capable of making?</div>
1552<div>I’m not saying the PM had anything to do with Dubie or his group,<span></span> but he certainly was complicit in allowing</div>
1553<div>corruption to flourish under his watch.</div>
1554<div>You’ve actually lit a fire under me, I think I will hunt for some<span></span> more info. Writing out this timeline was a good</div>
1555<div>excersize.</div>
1556</div>
1557<p> </p>
1558</div>
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1563<div>If you or anyone recognises what I’m talking about with theis web<span></span> portal/UN cult affiliations please post in this</div>
1564<div>thread. It would be enormously appreciated.</div>
1565<div>Thank you!</div>
1566<div>Hazel.</div>
1567<div>UPDATE:</div>
1568<div>Was able to track down the UN affiliated cult, the Hunger Project<span></span>. Will dig some more and post tomorrow.</div>
1569<div>22 11 2006</div>
1570<div>fruittbatt<span> <span>(03:05:50)</span> :</span></div>
1571<div>Thanks Hazel.</div>
1572<div>Your post set me thinking, too. In particular about the post-tsun<span></span>ami work which GPD and Margaret were doing as</div>
1573<div>volunteers in Phuket. I don’t want to smear the names of any who <span></span>volunteered during that tragic time. However, one</div>
1574<div>thing I do know is that in Sri Lanka and Thailand certain tsunami<span></span> orphans “disappeared” never to be seen again.</div>
1575<div>Again, it would be wrong to impute bad motives to any particular <span></span>volunteers, but I cannot help but wonder at whose</div>
1576<div>hands these kids “disappeared”.</div>
1577<div>Other circumstantial events have also sounded alarm bells, but i <span></span>do not feel at liberty to discloCheers,</div>
1578<div>se them publicly. Is there some way I could send you a private me<span></span>ssage?</div>
1579<div>Cheers,</div>
1580<div>fruittbatt</div>
1581<div>22 11 2006</div>
1582<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(12:17:54)</span> :</span></div>
1583<div>Hi Fruitbatt, I understand your concern over smearing the good wo<span></span>rks contributed by hundreds of thousands of</div>
1584<div>selfless brave volunteers all over the world, and especially thos<span></span>e who assisted after the Tsunami. No worries, its a</div>
1585<div>good reminder that it only takes a few well placed rotton apples <span></span>to ruin it for everyone.</div>
1586<div>You are more than welcome to contact me at</div>
1587<div>hazel8500@hotmail.com</div>
1588<div>Do you happen to know with which organization Margaret and Daniel were affiliated with when working in Thailand</div>
1589<div>on behalf of the survivors?</div>
1590<div>I recall the initial reports that children were disappearing. But<span></span> then later other news reports came out refuting that?</div>
1591<div>While I want to believe the later reports, I tend to believe the <span></span>first report, simply because I know there are already</div>
1592<div>many children involved in the sex trade there, of course they wou<span></span>ld be removed by traffickers. They are the golden</div>
1593<div>geese of these geezers.</div>
1594<div>Take care!</div>
1595<div>22 11 2006</div>
1596<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(18:30:20)</span> :</span></div>
1597<div>While looking into dubie and NGO childrens charities etc. I came <span></span>across a request for any information regarding the</div>
1598<div>following Dubie Children who attended Le jardin academy In Hawaii.</div>
1599<div>In the offchance one of them may find this page, I do hope they consider getting in contact with their childhood</div>
1600<div>friends and alumni.</div>
1601<div>http://alumni.lejardinacademy.com/members/lost_members.asp?li=D&amp;y<span></span>r=</div>
1602</div>
1603<p> </p>
1604</div>
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1609<div>Welcome, Le Jardin Academy Alumni!</div>
1610<div>Contact:</div>
1611<div>917 Kalanianaole hwy.</div>
1612<div>Kailua HI 96734</div>
1613<div>(808)-261-0707</div>
1614<div>Le Jardin Academy is a college preparatory school. Our mission is</div>
1615<div>to help our students excel in the unfolding journey of their live<span></span>s and to foster respect and concern for the welfare of</div>
1616<div>others. We challenge them to develop their minds, their character<span></span>s, and their bodies.</div>
1617<div>The Alumni Association of Le Jardin Academy is just getting start<span></span>ed and we need your help! From the first six</div>
1618<div>pre-school students in 1961 to the dozens of students who left to<span></span> complete school elsewhere, we would like to hear</div>
1619<div>from you! If this is your first time to the site, please register<span></span> for additional benefits</div>
1620<div>Send Us Information on this Lost Member!</div>
1621<div>Chelsea Dubie</div>
1622<div>Felicia Dubie</div>
1623<div>Morgan Dubie</div>
1624<div>Whitney Dubie</div>
1625<div>22 11 2006</div>
1626<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(19:06:51)</span> :</span></div>
1627<div>UPDATE:</div>
1628<div>Was able to track down the UN affiliated cult, the Hunger Project<span></span>.</div>
1629<div>So the controversy arounf THP is much to do with the organization<span></span>’s original ties to Werner Erhard.</div>
1630<div>From Wikipedia</div>
1631<div>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunger_Project#Public_criticism</div>
1632<div>Public criticism</div>
1633<div>Since its inception, there has been criticism of The Hunger Proje<span></span>ct by the public and the press. This criticism has</div>
1634<div>mainly focused on:</div>
1635<div>Werner Erhard, Erhard Seminars Training, and their philosophies;</div>
1636<div>* the focus of the Project (1977-1990) on public education and ad<span></span>vocacy, rather than providing food and other direct</div>
1637<div>action; [7] (On May 30, 1981 the board of directors of Oxfam Cana<span></span>da passed a resolution which stated they would not</div>
1638<div>endorse any activities or programs sponsored by The Hunger Projec<span></span>t, nor would they accept funds from the</div>
1639<div>project.[8])</div>
1640<div>* recent activity of The Hunger Project to remove criticial artic<span></span>les from the Internet.[9]</div>
1641<div>———————</div>
1642<div>Wikipedia has a lot of info and external links.</div>
1643<div>Doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the Dubie Empire.</div>
1644<div>22 11 2006</div>
1645<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(19:21:42)</span> :</span></div>
1646</div>
1647<p> </p>
1648</div>
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1653<div>OOOPS!</div>
1654<div>I spoke too soon, check this out the hunger project happens to be<span></span> one of many charities listed on the Herbalife Family</div>
1655<div>Foundation:</div>
1656<div>http://www.herbalifefamily.org/our_charities.html#hungerproj</div>
1657<div>The Hunger Project</div>
1658<div>The Hunger Project is a strategic organization and global movemen<span></span>t committed to a sustainable end to world hunger.</div>
1659<div>In Africa, Asia and Latin America, the Hunger Project empowers lo<span></span>cal people to create permanent solutions to the</div>
1660<div>progress in nutrition, health, education and family incomes.</div>
1661<div>24 11 2006</div>
1662<div>goneaway<span> <span>(21:06:09)</span> :</span></div>
1663<div>Children’s Services in Victoria, BC have a tape of Maggie, possib<span></span>ly Daniel, and one of Maggie’s children in a child</div>
1664<div>porn film. That is how I identified Maggie when she was known to <span></span>me as Jeannie. If you want proof, they have it!</div>
1665<div>24 11 2006</div>
1666<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(23:27:32)</span> :</span></div>
1667<div>Hi Goneaway, I am so sorry that you had to endure such a tape, and to have your heart broken by this particular little</div>
1668<div>girls plight. I would like to know she is okay, I know you would too.</div>
1669<div>This is something I think we should turn to the MP’s attention, w<span></span>hat do you think?</div>
1670<div>Readers please share your two cents worth what should a person do<span></span> in such a situation?</div>
1671<div>Contact the MP and ask him to verify the story? Call the police m<span></span>yself to verify if they have this tape?</div>
1672<div>Any advice or input would be greatly appreciated.</div>
1673<div>If you prefer your comments to be withheld from posting, please just write PRIVATE somewhere in the tit<span></span>le or body of</div>
1674<div>your comment.</div>
1675<div>Thank you Sincerely</div>
1676<div>Hazel.</div>
1677<div>25 11 2006</div>
1678<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:06:01)</span> : <span>Your comment is awaiting moderation</span></span></div>
1679<div>PRIVATE</div>
1680<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1681<div>The FBI agent investigating Daniel told me that he had a record i<span></span>nvolving pornography. I thinkt that it would be good</div>
1682<div>to ask the MP to contact HOnolulu FBI special agent Dan McGaughli<span></span>n.</div>
1683<div>HE</div>
1684<div>25 11 2006</div>
1685<div>hazel8500</div>
1686<p> </p>
1687<div>(00:14:49)<span> :</span></div>
1688<div>Goneaway, do you recall if the Victoria Children and Family services have this info under Crane? Dubie? Hart?</div>
1689<div>25 11 2006</div>
1690<div>goneaway</div>
1691<p> </p>
1692<div>(20:09:55)<span> :</span></div>
1693<div>Jeannie Crane is the name they used. They told me that was an ali<span></span>as and Margaret was her real name. I know her real</div>
1694</div>
1695<p> </p>
1696</div>
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1701<div>last name, but for fear of getting his VERY WONDERFUL biological <span></span>family more involved, I would hate to give it.</div>
1702<div>But they KNOW her in Victoria, regardless of the name she is usin<span></span>g, I know they do. I have writted the MP, Keith</div>
1703<div>Martin?, and told him my story in GREAT detail, but I have not go<span></span>t a response from him. It is criminal!!! I am</div>
1704<div>worried about Angel (an alias) too, she is very involved with her<span></span> mother and doesn’t think her mother is doing or has</div>
1705<div>done anything wrong.</div>
1706<div>I am praying for those kids every day!</div>
1707<div>By the way, Jeannie/Maggie introduced me to Daniel as Michael- so<span></span> there is another alias for him too.</div>
1708<div>26 11 2006</div>
1709<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:55:00)</span> :</span></div>
1710<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;I have written the MP, Keith Martin.</div>
1711<div>Good Excellent!</div>
1712<div>I am sure it is very difficult for the children right now. Its ju<span></span>st unreal what they are going through with dad dead and</div>
1713<div>mom in prison in a far far away place. Just horrible.</div>
1714<div>The sooner the truth gets out, the sooner the kids can get up, on<span></span> and over.</div>
1715<div>Truth cuts only to heal.</div>
1716<div>Peace.</div>
1717<div>26 11 2006</div>
1718<div>hazel8500</div>
1719<p> </p>
1720<div>(19:13:10)<span> :</span></div>
1721<div>Looks like there IS more to the John Mark Karr case!</div>
1722<div>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,231921,00.html</div>
1723<div>The federal government is investigating Karr for a link to JonBen<span></span>et, and fears that he may have been part of some</div>
1724<div>larger conspiracy to kill her, a prober told the CBS news show “4<span></span>8 Hours Mystery” in an episode airing tonight at 10</div>
1725<div>p.m.</div>
1726<div>Can’t help what this means w/ regards to his ties to Thailand?</div>
1727<div>29 11 2006</div>
1728<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(09:20:49)</span> :</span></div>
1729<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1730<div>I hesitate to write this but I feel queasy that this blog should <span></span>contain any reference to JMK and that entire salacious</div>
1731<div>media blitz that has made a mockery of rational police work. It s<span></span>eems “off topic” and a distraction from very real</div>
1732<div>discussion of the multi-faceted Dubie/Crane case that has had the<span></span> uniquely remarkable outcome of eliciting gut</div>
1733<div>wrenching opinions from many disparate sides of this case.</div>
1734<div>To allow this present remarkable and insightful discussion to get<span></span> derailed into the murky land of JMK conspiracies</div>
1735<div>would be a real tragedy. I fully imagine that there are other GPD<span></span> victims and/or admirers out there that have not</div>
1736<div>learned about his murder or have been given a very one sided acco<span></span>unt and may come across this site weeks or months</div>
1737<div>from now. For them to feel comfortable to step forward and share <span></span>their experiences will require some sense of</div>
1738<div>confidence in this discussion and those participating in it.</div>
1739<div>I have worked hard to share bits of the puzzle that I have relati<span></span>ng to this topic but GPD was a master of secrets and</div>
1740</div>
1741<p> </p>
1742</div>
1743<div>
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1747<div>dividing people playing folks against one another. I do not know if the truth will ever fully be known. But for one</div>
1748<div>sincerely appreciate and welcome new information aimed at unravel<span></span>ing just this Dubie/Crane tangled web.</div>
1749<div>Aloha,</div>
1750<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
1751<div>19 12 2006</div>
1752<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
1753<div><span>(01:04:38)</span> :</div>
1754<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1755<div>I have recently learned a great deal more about Jeana/Margaret/Mo<span></span>lly and I feel more concerned about her potential</div>
1756<div>manipulation of the system presenting the “abused” partner scenar<span></span>io. From many many sources now the picture over</div>
1757<div>the past 20 years is of an enabler if not a Bonnie to Daniel’s Clyde.</div>
1758<div>I do support some clemency due to the fact that she has young chi<span></span>ldren, but I believe the voices of others I have heard</div>
1759<div>from off line that I knew to be victimized by GPD that also suffe<span></span>red by her involvement and assistance of Daniel.</div>
1760<div>Do you know when her trial will be?</div>
1761<div>Aloha,</div>
1762<div>HE</div>
1763<div>27 12 2006</div>
1764<div>Anon</div>
1765<p> </p>
1766<div>(16:44:44)<span> :</span></div>
1767<div>Honestly i dont think Geri would waste her time reading or respon<span></span>ding to any of this. Shes too smart to get involved</div>
1768<div>with anything that could be traced back to her. My heart does go <span></span>out to Ms. Hart, but I can honestly tell you, the</div>
1769<div>woman was desperate. With good reason. Daniel was a life sucker. <span></span>He was good at his games, and to some degree I</div>
1770<div>believe he did practice mind control over Geri and others around <span></span>him, but we would be blind to ignore the fact that</div>
1771<div>Geri is an itelligent woman. She was smart enough to divorce him,<span></span> and more then likely found out some ugly truths</div>
1772<div>which lead to the divorce. The question is how much did she reall<span></span>y know?</div>
1773<div>28 12 2006</div>
1774<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:32:22)</span> :</span></div>
1775<div>I agree with you anon</div>
1776<div>“Daniel was a life sucker”</div>
1777<div>JEana/Molly/Margeret “was desperate”</div>
1778<div>As far as tracing things back– Personal Prosperity is registered <span></span>to Geri</div>
1779<div>(http://www.bizwiz.com/cgi-bin/bizxsrch.pl?terms=ARtoZV.oPHyb.AREdHaLXL12vEAR0xbE5sUIoNU&amp;expedite=</div>
1780<div>
1781<div>3</div>
1782</div>
1783<div>so it was not too clever to use that on the postings here if her <span></span>intent was to remain Anon.</div>
1784<div>I also agree that Geri despite being highly capable and competent<span></span> probably suffered some kind of “mind control”</div>
1785<div>from him and that a critical question is “how much did she really<span></span> Know?”</div>
1786<div>Probably pretty much what he wanted her to know is my observation<span></span>.</div>
1787<div>He bragged about his ability to control her. He called her a moro<span></span>n. She on the other hand told me she called all the</div>
1788<div>shots. For my part at that time I kept my mouth shut and my head <span></span>down. BY the time I really saw how GPD was and</div>
1789<div>tried to speak out, he used her to protect himself from me. He us<span></span>ed her to discredit my sworn testimony. This cost me</div>
1790<div>years of my life. So I do not really think that Geri’s intelligen<span></span>ce protected her. My intelligence did not protect me. I</div>
1791<div>do not think that it was about intelligence. This man was an expe<span></span>rt at emotional manipulation and actually seemed to</div>
1792<div>be even more motivated by the challenge of subduing women of stat<span></span>ure and or intellect. Most high achieving women</div>
1793<div>are looking to a safe haven of emotional support and love too. AS<span></span> far as Geri responding or reading this–who knows</div>
1794<div>–does it matter?? I think all that matters is that she learns the<span></span> truth, embraces it, seeks to remedy the harm she did to</div>
1795<div>others while protecting him and actually “stand in the power of t<span></span>ruth” as she teaches in herbalife videos. I wish</div>
1796</div>
1797<p> </p>
1798</div>
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1803<div>healing and peace for her and for all those who trusted GPD with their hearts.</div>
1804<div>29 12 2006</div>
1805<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:42:40)</span> :</span></div>
1806<div>Hellow Anon, Hawaiin Eyes,</div>
1807<div>One thing I can say for sure, is the women associated with GPD we<span></span>re anything but dumb. Its my feeling that he</div>
1808<div>selected his women because of their intellect, personal power and<span></span> desire to be a part of something bigger than</div>
1809<div>themselves. How these innocent wishes could be used to manipulate<span></span>, is a real shame.</div>
1810<div>As for Geri reading or replying to this blog? Well an email addre<span></span>ss linked to Geri was supplied here along with a</div>
1811<div>couple insanely angry tirades against Margaret Crane. (I’ve disab<span></span>led the email for her own protection.) Scroll up,</div>
1812<div>waaaay up to Personal Prosperity.</div>
1813<div>It is likely someone else could have written the posts, but the c<span></span>ontent is so personal, and so very inline with what</div>
1814<div>others have said about how Dubie played his women off each other, that its hard to say for sure that it wasn’t Geri</div>
1815<div>herself. Its not up to me to decide or really care, one way or th<span></span>e other.</div>
1816<div>I once again find myself echoing Hawaiin Eyes’ sentiment:</div>
1817<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;AS far as Geri responding or reading this–who knows –does it m<span></span>atter?? I think all that matters is that she learns</div>
1818<div>the truth, embraces it, seeks to remedy the harm she did to other<span></span>s while protecting him and actually “stand in the</div>
1819<div>power of truth” as she teaches in herbalife videos. I wish healin<span></span>g and peace for her and for all those who trusted GPD</div>
1820<div>with their hearts.</div>
1821<div>29 12 2006</div>
1822<div>hazel8500</div>
1823<p> </p>
1824<div>(12:39:32)<span> :</span></div>
1825<div>Dear H.E.</div>
1826<div>Regarding:</div>
1827<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1828<div>&gt;&gt;&gt;I hesitate to write this but I feel queasy that this blog shou<span></span>ld contain any reference to JMK and that entire</div>
1829<div>salacious media blitz that has made a mockery of rational police <span></span>work. It seems “off topic” and a distraction from very</div>
1830<div>real discussion of the multi-faceted Dubie/Crane case that has ha<span></span>d the uniquely remarkable outcome of eliciting gut</div>
1831<div>wrenching opinions from many disparate sides of this case.&gt;&gt;&gt;</div>
1832<div>First let me say I appreciate your hesitation to write what you w<span></span>rote, and your decision to write anyway.</div>
1833<div>I happen to hold very strong opinions that JMK is part of somethi<span></span>ng much bigger than JBR. The FACT he and Dubie</div>
1834<div>were both set up a few miles from each other while both (apparant<span></span>ly) indulging their apetites for control, and</div>
1835<div>perversion has not been lost on me, and for that reason alone, I <span></span>stand by my JMK posts on this blog.</div>
1836<div>I think I need to address something JIC its not clear.</div>
1837<div>This blog is not about GPD, its about violence against women and <span></span>children, and a disturbing trend I (and others) have</div>
1838<div>identified, I call it the Silent Extermination.</div>
1839<div>This conversation we are having right now is simply one thread of<span></span> many begun and carried out on this blog, however</div>
1840<div>if I may say so myself, it does seem to be the most popular threa<span></span>d by my stats counter.</div>
1841<div>Despite my desire to please my readership, A girl’s gotta have so<span></span>me boundaries, and this blog, is my special place</div>
1842</div>
1843<p> </p>
1844</div>
1845<div>
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1848<div>40 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
1849<div>where I am safe to say, write conjecture what I want to.</div>
1850<div>To get a sense of what I am talking about, readers are encouraged<span></span> to visit my “Where have my sisters gone?” page</div>
1851<div>and “Mi Madre” page.</div>
1852<div>Where Have My Sisters Gone?:</div>
1853<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/fight-the-fading-of-the-light/</div>
1854<div>Missing Women in Canada 1971-2002 partial list</div>
1855<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/05/17/missing-women-in-canada<span></span>-from-1971-2002/</div>
1856<div>Mi Madre Page:</div>
1857<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/mamma-mia/</div>
1858<div>Message Centre Leave A Note Page:</div>
1859<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/leave-your-thoughts-for-the-missin<span></span>g-and-their-loved-ones/</div>
1860<div>29 12 2006</div>
1861<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(12:45:01)</span> :</span></div>
1862<div>To All,</div>
1863<div>Did you know there are 7,000+ open cases of missing women in my c<span></span>ountry (canada)? 2,400 children disappear from</div>
1864<div>the USA EVERY DAY!</div>
1865<div>The main suppliers of human traficking are the Asian and East Asi<span></span>an countries, out pacing all but the eastern bloc.</div>
1866<div>Did you know that the major destination countries for such slave <span></span>labour is the US, Canada, Germany? Basicly the</div>
1867<div>“1st world” and “developed” countries are the engines that drive <span></span>this slave trade economy, larger, bigger and more</div>
1868<div>profitable now than any other time in history, EVER! In fact it i<span></span>s quickly reaching and soon will surpass the scope of</div>
1869<div>blackmarket arms and drugs.</div>
1870<div>Who is supplying these people for the slave traders?</div>
1871<div>I don’t know, but I suspect someone with ties to Canada, the USA <span></span>East Asia and European countries.</div>
1872<div>This discussion of GPD, is simply the tip of the ice burg.</div>
1873<div>IMHO.</div>
1874<div>29 12 2006</div>
1875<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(14:15:31)</span> :</span></div>
1876<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
1877<div>My hat is off to you for your strong advocacy work on behalf of the disappeared. It is truly a horrifying phenomena.</div>
1878<div>From what little I know, from corresponding with you on this site<span></span>, you are a wise a gifted person using the www for a</div>
1879<div>heroic purpose and I respect and appreciate you very much for tha<span></span>t.</div>
1880<div>I apologize for not “getting” the bigger picture here. (It is har<span></span>d for me to see “the forest for the [major] tree” that fell</div>
1881<div>on me and I still struggle to extricate myself from and stand fre<span></span>e again). I agree that GPD could easily have been a</div>
1882<div>gog in this wicked world wide wheel of trafficking. I sincerely hope that Jeana may come to the point of sharing what</div>
1883<div>she knows-if she does have information related to this. I think t<span></span>hat it is quite likely that she does, but I have no</div>
1884<div>concrete fact to point to. The various ties of “Peace Child Inter<span></span>national” do alarm me.</div>
1885<div>Your site is out there for anyone who “google”s GPD. I sincerely hope that this story provides a mechanism to break</div>
1886<div>into the bigger and sinister world trade that you so passionately<span></span> alert folks to. Thank you Hazel for your voice and</div>
1887</div>
1888<p> </p>
1889</div>
1890<div>
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1894<div>hard work!</div>
1895<div>Aloha</div>
1896<div>HE</div>
1897<div>1 01 2007</div>
1898<div>Lee<span> <span>(09:51:54)</span> :</span></div>
1899<div>Does anyone know when the estate hearing for GPD’s estate will be held in Honolulu? I think it’s sometime this</div>
1900<div>month, but would like to know for sure.</div>
1901<div>2 01 2007</div>
1902<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
1903<div><span>(10:47:35)</span> :</div>
1904<div>Lee,</div>
1905<div>I do not know if this hearing is open to the public.</div>
1906<div>The info below which answers your question is from the publicly available Hawai’i State Judiciary document</div>
1907<div>available on line at:</div>
1908<div>http://hoohiki2.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki/DSEnter.jsp?select<span></span>sequence=4</div>
1909<div>Document Detail</div>
1910<div>1LP06-1-000700</div>
1911<div>Sequence: 0000004</div>
1912<div>Case Title: THE ESTATE OF GEORGE PATRICK DUBIE ETC</div>
1913<div>Doc. ID: Date of Filing: 11-08-2006 Time of Filing: 0938</div>
1914<div>Doc. Name: ORDER SETTING DATE, TIME AND PLACE OF</div>
1915<div>HEARING ON PETITION FOR PROBATE OF WILL</div>
1916<div>AND APPOINTMENT OF PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVE</div>
1917<div>(HRG 1/12/2007, 9:00 AM, J/HIRAI)</div>
1918<div>Filing Party Name: KAJIKAWA, COURT</div>
1919<div>3 01 2007</div>
1920<div>Anon<span> <span>(19:53:23)</span> :</span></div>
1921<div>Hello,</div>
1922<div>I hope I did not offend anyone by my post. It was not my intentio<span></span>n to imply that any of the women Daniel was</div>
1923<div>involved with were not intelligent. I only speak from what I know<span></span> about Geri. I am not judging anyone here.</div>
1924<div>Obviously there are many things I did not know about Daniel. I ca<span></span>n tell you that I always thought something was</div>
1925<div>wrong with the way he treated Geri. Geri was pretty up on her money, and knew, I believe where the majority of it</div>
1926<div>was going. He may have joked about how gullible she was, but she <span></span>really was not. The timing of their divorce lines</div>
1927<div>up with some other events that happened during that time period 2<span></span>000-2003. 1 being Jon Onuma living on their</div>
1928<div>Kaneohe property. Lets not forget that there is a missing girl in<span></span> California, who is linked to Daniel through his</div>
1929<div>involvment with Jon Onuma aka Jade Oshino. This is where I believ<span></span>e things got really heavy for he and Geri. Baring</div>
1930<div>in mind Daniel was already travelling back and forth to Thailand <span></span>during this period of time, to work on the healing</div>
1931<div>center,or whatever film he was producing, and Jeana was a major p<span></span>layer in both Daniel and Geri’s lives then. Too me</div>
1932<div>it’s all heart wrenching, but I believe that Jeana may know some <span></span>things that could heal familes. I hope to God she</div>
1933<div>comes clean about everything she knew about Daniel…</div>
1934<div>Anon</div>
1935</div>
1936<p> </p>
1937</div>
1938<div>
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1942<div>3 01 2007</div>
1943<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(22:58:40)</span> :</span></div>
1944<div>Very tired tonight so I’ll be brief,</div>
1945<div>Anon, no worries, it seems clear you have your heart in the right<span></span> place. I certainly didn’t feel you were disparaging</div>
1946<div>anyones intelligence, just the opposite. And I happen to agree wi<span></span>th you from the little I know of the people involved,</div>
1947<div>Geri was smart, badly used, same with the others. But we are resp<span></span>onsible for our choices and actions. The hardest</div>
1948<div>thing I think is to accept you’ve been duped or manipulated or ta<span></span>ken for a ride especially by someone you admire,</div>
1949<div>look up to trust and love. It takes time to heal, it takes time t<span></span>o gather strength and courage, and it takes time for one to</div>
1950<div>regain ones own trust in them selves. I just hope time doesn’t ru<span></span>n out in the meantime.</div>
1951<div>Peaceful dreams Anon!</div>
1952<div>3 01 2007</div>
1953<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(23:00:54)</span> :</span></div>
1954<div>Hi HE!</div>
1955<div>No need to apologize, I actually was grateful to have the chance to remind readers about the other threads in this blog</div>
1956<div>I also very much appreciate your pov and input and promise to kee<span></span>p outside issues to a minimum unless I really feel</div>
1957<div>there may be a link.</div>
1958<div>Hope you have a bright and happy new year!</div>
1959<div>3 01 2007</div>
1960<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(23:04:51)</span> :</span></div>
1961<div>I must be pmsing I’m all sleepy and emotional tonight but I just <span></span>wanted to say to you guys posting in this thread, you</div>
1962<div>are (almost) all about the most polite, civil minded and articula<span></span>te folks I’ve encountered online.</div>
1963<div>I just wanted to say thank-you, this is such a difficult topic an<span></span>d you really show a great deal of grace and</div>
1964<div>consideration.</div>
1965<div>A surprising place and topic to discover such gentleness.</div>
1966<div>May you all have a peaceful happy and fulfilling 2007.</div>
1967<div>Hazel.</div>
1968<div>G’nite!</div>
1969<div>4 01 2007</div>
1970<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
1971<p> </p>
1972<div>(10:49:42)<span> :</span></div>
1973<div>I had dinner the night before last with the close friend of Jeana<span></span>’s who I will refer to as “Truth Prevails” (TP) based on</div>
1974<div>her sign in name from one of her postings.</div>
1975<div>TP has come to Hawaii from Chiang Mai to act on the children’s be<span></span>half. Sadly there has been some bizarre</div>
1976<div>misinformation that there is no money. There certainly are substa<span></span>ntial assets here about to go through probate.</div>
1977<div>TP gave me a handwritten letter from Jeana. I recognized many of <span></span>the phrases she used as Daniel’s speech patterns</div>
1978</div>
1979<p> </p>
1980</div>
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1985<div>exactly. She writes that she was blinded by fear. She writes that she prays for peace and healing for all those that</div>
1986<div>suffered from Daniel’s actions. She writes that he kept her isola<span></span>ted and forbade her to discuss him with other women.</div>
1987<div>She writes that she hopes for a day that the women affected can “<span></span>swap stories” and thereby find healing in knowing</div>
1988<div>the real truth. But TP agreed that murder cannot be explained awa<span></span>y by this tragic history and said that Jeana accepts</div>
1989<div>her incarceration.</div>
1990<div>TP says that Geri is “on the war path” and has a big gun attorney digging up everything on GPD and that so far he has</div>
1991<div>uncovered hundreds of pages of evidence that speak to years of fraud perpetrated and that Geri herself has been the</div>
1992<div>victim of massive fraud.</div>
1993<div>That is not news to me. He bragged to me about his shenanigans in<span></span> the heady days of NASDAQ’s climb in the late</div>
1994<div>90’s. He bragged about his Swiss accounts and showed me the vario<span></span>us transaction documents. He traveled to Zurich</div>
1995<div>in the summer of 98 to attend to all that. Despite the real suffe<span></span>ring that Geri brought to my life by her blind and</div>
1996<div>misguided aggressive defense of him, I did reach out to her to tr<span></span>y to tip her off many times in many ways.</div>
1997<div>At this point I would like to make an open plea to all those invo<span></span>lved to focus on the very real needs of the youngest of</div>
1998<div>GPD’s children especially Lilly. Please do the right thing and al<span></span>low for legitimate accounting and distribution of</div>
1999<div>assets</div>
2000<div>These wars and trying to unravel this web of lies will never real<span></span>ly end. But the childhoods of these children should be</div>
2001<div>protected. Assets can be cleverly hidden and shielded from the pr<span></span>obate process to suit the whims and rightful</div>
2002<div>frustration of those at the top but in the end I believe there wi<span></span>ll be a very real “Karmic” debt to pay for this type of</div>
2003<div>greed and vengeance.</div>
2004<div>5 01 2007</div>
2005<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(01:21:30)</span> :</span></div>
2006<div>I don’t know why I feel the need to make comments here with regar<span></span>ds to Daniel Dubie. I was in shock when I read</div>
2007<div>your page about Daniel’s death. I guess because I have so many qu<span></span>estions that will never be answered. I felt so stupid</div>
2008<div>about the whole thing. I was just one of Daniel’s women. He playe<span></span>d un-attached and been hurt by women so many</div>
2009<div>times. He told me I am just different from all of them. He offere<span></span>d to pay my rent and to support me but I refused. He</div>
2010<div>comes and goes into my life. I waited for him for so long and bel<span></span>ieved in his promises. He would call me and leave</div>
2011<div>me messages telling me he loves me. Until one day I met this woma<span></span>n that also happened to knows Daniel. She told</div>
2012<div>me that Daniel is married to a Thai girl. When I confronted Danie<span></span>l, he said, it is not true. Although in doubt I just</div>
2013<div>listened to Daniel instead. Until one day I finally had enough and broke up with him. What shocks me most is to see</div>
2014<div>Gina’s picture here.She told me her name was Gina Hart which is J<span></span>eanna is the way spelled in her email to me. She</div>
2015<div>was the one who introduce Daniel to me. She told me that Daniel w<span></span>as her bestfriend for 25 years. I also met Gina’s 4</div>
2016<div>children. In fact, one of her daugther’s name is named Danielle. <span></span>That should be my clue then. She told me that the</div>
2017<div>father of her kids is in jail. She hooked up Daniel with me.</div>
2018<div>I am sad as to what happened to Daniel but also angry for him lyi<span></span>ng to me for 5 years I’ve know him.</div>
2019<div>And about Gina…I don’t know what to think. She was nice to me I t<span></span>hought. But one thing for sure, they played with</div>
2020<div>my heart and my emotion. I felt sorry for her kids.</div>
2021<div>5 01 2007</div>
2022<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(17:07:44)</span> :</span></div>
2023<div>So sorry to hear this Bernadette.</div>
2024<div>I am having a difficult enough time wrapping my head around all o<span></span>f this too, without having any personal dealings</div>
2025<div>with the family.</div>
2026<div>Some of the women such as yourself who have bravely shared their <span></span>experiences here, have twigged little personal</div>
2027<div>vignettes of people I’ve known at verious times who don’t seem al<span></span>l that different from Jeana or Daniel on surface</div>
2028<div>appearances anyway. Truly, it is mind numbing to realize how devi<span></span>ant people can be.</div>
2029</div>
2030<p> </p>
2031</div>
2032<div>
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2036<div>You are not the first person who has described to me as being sor<span></span>t of set up with Dubie with Jeanna’s help. I find this</div>
2037<div>so very difficult to understand.</div>
2038<div>Would I ever share my man? No Never! Would you?! Not intentionall<span></span>y I bet. But Jeanna? What? I don’t understand.</div>
2039<div>Fortunately I don’t need to.</div>
2040<div>But I do hope you get the answers YOU need, and I hope H.E. gets hers and I hope Pim (?) gets hers and the children</div>
2041<div>theirs. And so on.</div>
2042<div>Welcome to this thread, and thank you for sharing!</div>
2043<div>Peace,</div>
2044<div>Hazel.</div>
2045<div>5 01 2007</div>
2046<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(18:14:26)</span> :</span></div>
2047<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2048<div>This is getting a bit like a bizare soap opera but unfortunately <span></span>in this case the truth of his life really is stranger than</div>
2049<div>most fictions….Daniel told me that he was entitled to 12 “wives” <span></span>at any one time. He said this to me in front of Geri.</div>
2050<div>He identified with polygammous arabs who of a certain class are a<span></span>llowed to marry as many women as they can</div>
2051<div>support. His vision was that each of these women would be true to<span></span> him FOR LIFE and not question him and that he</div>
2052<div>would visit these “wives” at his pleasure but call frequently and<span></span> be dependable for emergencies and financial support.</div>
2053<div>He wanted children. AS long as there was no public link to upset <span></span>the illusion of he and Geri as a happy successful</div>
2054<div>couple there would be no problems. He told me “variety is the spi<span></span>ce of life”. When we were together he told me that</div>
2055<div>all his other attachments were not physical. When I found out the<span></span> truth, he told me that he did not believe in the</div>
2056<div>“codependent sh-t” of the west and was Arab, blah blah. He told m<span></span>e he had slept with other women and that each one</div>
2057<div>was special and he had learned something. He then wanted to take <span></span>me to Medina. He took me around house shopping</div>
2058<div>and wanted to buy me a house. None of that could get me away from<span></span> the heartbreaking humiliation that I was</div>
2059<div>supposed to bow down and accept my place in his world as one of m<span></span>any after all his dramatic professions that “you</div>
2060<div>are the love of my life”.</div>
2061<div>I still love him I will not deny that. I am still confused and an<span></span>gry. I suppose that all of his “wives” are left now with</div>
2062<div>that legacy. It is a sad story of a very powerful individual. I know of several women who report that Jeana arranged</div>
2063<div>the introduction claiming that GPD was her brother.</div>
2064<div>For those of us left, there should be a time to be angry and then<span></span> a time to put that anger down. I seem to be going in</div>
2065<div>cycles able to absorb and deal with a little bit at a time. Perso<span></span>nally I fear that holding onto that anger is too tightly will</div>
2066<div>rob us of our chance to live fully.</div>
2067<div>What I do know is that all the “wives” that I have met or spoken <span></span>to are loving beautiful and intlelligent souls. I feel</div>
2068<div>that my love is a part of me and if I give my love it is true bec<span></span>ause I am true. I cannot take that love back and I don’t</div>
2069<div>want to. I have no control over Daniel and his choices and he mad<span></span>e that clear to me at a certain point. He said that his</div>
2070<div>love was true and uncoditional and forever. Perhaps to him it was<span></span>. But the truth is that he decieved me and used me</div>
2071<div>and I don’t think that you can have “true love” without the truth<span></span>. He told me that I would not be “able to handle the</div>
2072<div>truth” so he had lied.</div>
2073<div>Thank you for sharing your story Bernadette. I hope all this may <span></span>provide some type of an answer that you seek.</div>
2074<div>6 01 2007</div>
2075<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(02:08:31)</span> :</span></div>
2076<div>Thank you Hazel and Hawaiianeyes for the insight. All day today at work, I was thinking of Daniel and all the things</div>
2077<div>I discovered about him through your blog and by searching at goog<span></span>les. I could not believe what I am reading. It was a</div>
2078<div>total shock for me. I thought I knew Daniel but I was wrong. He i<span></span>s a total stranger to me and I can’t believe I got</div>
2079</div>
2080<p> </p>
2081</div>
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2086<div>involved romantically with the total stranger! I felt so disguste<span></span>d. The last time I spoke to Daniel was on Mother’s day.</div>
2087<div>We already broke up but still calls me and telling me how much he<span></span> loves me. I told him I am here as a friend when he</div>
2088<div>needs me. He asked what is wrong with me. He said, women chased h<span></span>im and wants his money. I guess I challenged</div>
2089<div>him and he cannot accept the fact that I don’t want to be his gir<span></span>lfriend anymore.</div>
2090<div>I just learned his death last night when I was browsing the net. <span></span>At first I was sad but then after finding out the truth</div>
2091<div>about him, I felt so sick in my stomach. I felt so numb and can’t<span></span> even cry. I wanted to cry not because of his death but</div>
2092<div>because I want to feel better after being mad at myself for being<span></span> so naive and stupid. I feel so hurt and betrayed!</div>
2093<div>Like you Hawaiianeyes, Daniel has this email to me I want to shar<span></span>e:</div>
2094<div>” Dear Bernadeth,</div>
2095<div>&gt; &gt;</div>
2096<div>&gt; &gt; Ever since I was a boy I dreamed of making a difference in the world. I</div>
2097<div>&gt; felt</div>
2098<div>&gt; &gt; empathy and compassion for the unfortunate of the world. Dest<span></span>iny has set</div>
2099<div>&gt; its</div>
2100<div>&gt; &gt; course for me. I know not if I chose it in a time long ago, o<span></span>r if it</div>
2101<div>chose</div>
2102<div>&gt; &gt; me. Each step of my path brings me closer to the knowledge of<span></span> the</div>
2103<div>&gt; injustice</div>
2104<div>&gt; &gt; and denial of even those with good intention. It is not even so much</div>
2105<div>greed</div>
2106<div>&gt; &gt; and power as it is denial of the Divine Light within each and<span></span> every one</div>
2107<div>of</div>
2108<div>&gt; &gt; us. But I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love w<span></span>ill have</div>
2109<div>the</div>
2110<div>&gt; &gt; final word in reality. That is why right, temporarily defeate<span></span>d, is</div>
2111<div>&gt; stronger</div>
2112<div>&gt; &gt; than evil triumphant. And why I keep on doing what I do.</div>
2113<div>&gt; &gt;</div>
2114<div>&gt; &gt; At the same time I feel an emptiness and a longing for the pe<span></span>rsonal love</div>
2115<div>&gt; &gt; that comes from relationship. Bernadeth you were the one true<span></span> flame that</div>
2116<div>&gt; &gt; shone in my heart, that I thought could change my destiny and<span></span> bring me a</div>
2117<div>&gt; &gt; simpler life. But in my heart of hearts I hear the voice say,<span></span> carry on</div>
2118<div>my</div>
2119<div>&gt; &gt; wayward son, all you desire in the end will come. I still see<span></span> your face</div>
2120<div>&gt; and</div>
2121<div>&gt; &gt; wish you believed enough in me to know I was the one worth waiting for.</div>
2122<div>If</div>
2123<div>&gt; &gt; only I could see you again. It would be the healing injection I envision</div>
2124<div>&gt; in</div>
2125<div>&gt; &gt; my dreams. I have been traveling and working constantly. I ha<span></span>ve not</div>
2126<div>&gt; returned</div>
2127<div>&gt; &gt; home for over a year, but Bernadeth I would love to see you and would</div>
2128<div>even</div>
2129<div>&gt; &gt; come to Hawaii just for the purpose of seeing you again face to face. I</div>
2130<div>&gt; see</div>
2131<div>&gt; &gt; you in my dreams but it is not enough. Would you be willing t<span></span>o have me</div>
2132<div>&gt; step</div>
2133<div>&gt; &gt; into your world this time. I do care and I do still love you.<span></span> That</div>
2134<div>&gt; &gt; connection we felt in each others eyes is very real to me. I <span></span>don’t want</div>
2135<div>to</div>
2136<div>&gt; &gt; deny it. There is something bigger than both of us weaving th<span></span>e tapestry</div>
2137<div>of</div>
2138<div>&gt; &gt; the picture that is yet to unfold. I embrace you in it. Will <span></span>you see me!</div>
2139</div>
2140<p> </p>
2141</div>
2142<div>
2143<div>
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2145<div>46 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2146<div>&gt; &gt; Regardless of your answer please write me back as soon as possible.”</div>
2147<div>&gt; &gt;</div>
2148<div>&gt; &gt; Your wayward love,</div>
2149<div>&gt; &gt;</div>
2150<div>&gt; &gt; Daniel</div>
2151<div>&gt; &gt;</div>
2152<div>Yes I believed in him. He was good at convincing me to believe ev<span></span>rything he says. Not even in my wild imagination</div>
2153<div>think that he had relationship with Jeana and that the kids are h<span></span>is. Unbelievable. How could I not see all these. I’ve</div>
2154<div>been to his house in Big Island, in Kailua, his condo in Waikiki <span></span>and even the little house in Kauai. Like you and</div>
2155<div>others he told me we are soul mate even Jeana said that Daniel is<span></span> my soul mate and she can see that through our eyes.</div>
2156<div>I have learned about Geri’s existence also recently. When I asked<span></span> Daniel about it, he told me he have to lie to me</div>
2157<div>because he was afraid I am going to leave him. And to convince me<span></span> more that Geri is not in his life anymore, he</div>
2158<div>showed me their divorce paper. He told me not to tell anyone beca<span></span>use none of Geri’s friends knows the divorce. Both</div>
2159<div>of them didn’t want their friends to know about it to protect the<span></span>ir reputation.</div>
2160<div>I have seen Daniel in split personalities but ignored it. I sense<span></span>d something but ignored it. I think because of my love</div>
2161<div>for him, I became so blind. But one thing for sure I learned so m<span></span>uch from this experience.</div>
2162<div>I am not angry with Jeana. I believe she is also a victim. It was<span></span> wrong that she murdered Daniel but we also don’t</div>
2163<div>know what she been through with him. Sometimes, enough is enough.<span></span> My sympathy goes to their children.</div>
2164<div>And to Personal Prosperity Int.</div>
2165<div>I am sorry that the truth about Daniel came out for everyone to k<span></span>now especially for the women he fooled like me. I</div>
2166<div>understand you want us to leave Daniel alone. Don’t worry he is now alone. May he rest in peace.</div>
2167<div>And about RESPECT? Do you even know how to respect our feelings?</div>
2168<div>We are gathered here not to disrespect Daniel but to give each ot<span></span>her</div>
2169<div>support and to reveal the truth. We are not obssesed of Daniel an<span></span>d defenitely not need a psychiatrist. We are fine. We</div>
2170<div>just awakened from a nightmare and we just want to share that wit<span></span>h each other so that we can learn from each other</div>
2171<div>and to be better in protecting ourselves from people who wants to<span></span> hurt us. So that someday we can also teach our</div>
2172<div>children to be aware of people like Daniel. I’m just saying……</div>
2173<div>K. I think I feel better now. I accepted it already. Daniel is gone. He can’t hurt me anymore. Thank you Hazel for</div>
2174<div>your blog. And to all of us who</div>
2175<div>was once Daniel’s soulmate, PEACE.</div>
2176<div>6 01 2007</div>
2177<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:33:10)</span> :</span></div>
2178<div>Oh Bernadette, You are most welcome here. I am glad that you’ve f<span></span>ound this site, I don’t have any answers but I</div>
2179<div>certainly offer my little blof for you and the other women who I’<span></span>ve been blessed to have meet to gather and draw</div>
2180<div>strength and comfort from each other.</div>
2181<div>I hope that Geri is also finding support and comfort and strength<span></span> among her members and supporters, and perhaps one</div>
2182<div>day we can all consider each other friends and partners in truth.</div>
2183<div>Many blessings to you, especially the one we call Peace.</div>
2184<div>Hazel.</div>
2185<div>6 01 2007</div>
2186<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(12:16:33)</span> :</span></div>
2187<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2188</div>
2189<p> </p>
2190</div>
2191<div>
2192<div>
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2194<div>47 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2195<div>THANK YOU! Your letter is so wonderful. I am so sorry for your pain that you feel now but like many processes</div>
2196<div>getting out of this sticky mesmerizing web is very PAINFUL. But t<span></span>he best sign is that you can see again.</div>
2197<div>There are so many other potential victims of his out there. How t<span></span>o reach them?? I have wondered about putting some</div>
2198<div>type of add in local papers over a few weeks time with his pictur<span></span>e. There was a very small probate announcement in</div>
2199<div>the legal section but I think few knew his legal name George Patr<span></span>ick Dubie. There was a Charles Meminger piece in</div>
2200<div>the HOnolulu Advertiser 2 weeks after his death but other than th<span></span>at the whole story has been hushed.</div>
2201<div>Personal Prosperity–You can not buy or bully everyone. Now I learn some latest moves to claim Daniel’s assets and</div>
2202<div>sue the estate blah blah. She had no trouble in blindly following<span></span> Daniels direction to the detriment of the truth while</div>
2203<div>he lived to now cry foul because SHE finds SHE was also made a fool of is bizare. Yes the divorce was not</div>
2204<div>announced on any Herbalife site and she seems to have kept the DUBIE at the end of her name and kept up wedding</div>
2205<div>happy couple photos on the web. Daniel told me IMAGE was everythi<span></span>ng to her and that the marriage was not legal</div>
2206<div>becuase he was never divorced from Sylvie and that it was all jus<span></span>t a business arrangement. But he said that if Geri</div>
2207<div>ever suspected that he loved me then she would not rest until I w<span></span>as destroyed. He said he wanted to marry me but that</div>
2208<div>he had to wait until she divorced him or he would lose too much a<span></span>nd that would hurt our future life together. I told</div>
2209<div>him that was all BS and if he really loved me (and at the time ou<span></span>r unborn twins) he would leave and we could live in a</div>
2210<div>tent for all I cared about money. He chose lies and money and abu<span></span>sed me. I lost that pregnancy and nearly lost my</div>
2211<div>mind. Then came 9/11 and I heard all about him from the FBI and w<span></span>hat he told the FBI about me was that he only</div>
2212<div>“used [me] for sex”. What he had said to me a bout a coming jihad<span></span> and all his rants about islam together with 9/11 and</div>
2213<div>the FBI information obilertated whatever was left of my fragile p<span></span>syche at that time and I really did completely give</div>
2214<div>up. Some how I got another chance and now SO MANY years later I am blessed with all these kind ANGELS to</div>
2215<div>share the truth- you Bernadette, Kari, Sarada, Island Girl, Hazel<span></span> and Fruittbatt (thaivisa) for wise perspective of</div>
2216<div>similar behaviour of other pyschopaths.</div>
2217<div>Bernadette, I now hear that another baby has been born just recently after his death here in Hawaii. So there are</div>
2218<div>definitely others. He also calls me still every mother’s day. I h<span></span>ave hundreds of emails and letters from him. Many</div>
2219<div>have very similar phrases as he used in the letter you kindly sha<span></span>red here. I suppose that he had a type of “formula” to</div>
2220<div>use to brain wash the women he targeted. Did he give you video ta<span></span>pes to watch? Like the one about OSHO? Did he</div>
2221<div>give you lots of audio tapes to listen to? Did he record music fo<span></span>r you to listen to? He did these things with me and</div>
2222<div>now I wonder if some of them had “subliminal” messages of mind co<span></span>ntrol in them. He had a very powerful gaze and</div>
2223<div>many times while looking into his eyes I felt that I was falling <span></span>into some type of sweet trance and felt very relaxed.</div>
2224<div>He would do that and then say shocking things he wanted me to do <span></span>and I would startle and realize that there was</div>
2225<div>something very wrong with this but I couldn’t figure out what. He<span></span> told me that he had gotten alot of advanced</div>
2226<div>spiritual training. I know from many others that he was really in<span></span>to some type of “black magic” building altars to</div>
2227<div>various people with there own personal things. He stole little th<span></span>ings of mine.</div>
2228<div>Anyway, Bernadette we may never get to the bottom of all this and<span></span> the pain may never really completely go away but</div>
2229<div>I am happy to feel like at least I can see much more clearly now.</div>
2230<div>Thank you Bernadette for sharing your piece of this puzzle</div>
2231<div>!</div>
2232<div>Aloha Pumehana</div>
2233<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
2234<div>6 01 2007</div>
2235<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(12:40:10)</span> :</span></div>
2236<div>PS Bernadette,</div>
2237<div>The legal death certificate from Chiang Mai states that Daniel wa<span></span>s unmarried at the time of his death so I don’t think</div>
2238<div>that he actually married Pim. He may have presented that she was <span></span>his “wife” in Thailand to protect Pim’s reputation.</div>
2239<div>He certainly bought property in her name and made all the financi<span></span>al arrangements that a husband might. He told me</div>
2240<div>that he loved her very much and that she gave him the chance to c<span></span>ontinue his tranformation…..</div>
2241<div>6 01 2007</div>
2242</div>
2243<p> </p>
2244</div>
2245<div>
2246<div>
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2249<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(16:41:33)</span> :</span></div>
2250<div>The Power of Truth</div>
2251<div>At the risk of appearing “obsessed” or beating a dead horse, I do<span></span> want to come back to a GLARING abuse of the</div>
2252<div>public trust. There can be no “respect” if there are blatant lies<span></span> and fraud being perpetrated STILL. I am and have been</div>
2253<div>extremely offended by the chicanery going on in the land of all things “Dubie”.</div>
2254<div>So in that context I will submit my personal ongoing pet peeve!</div>
2255<div>Except for direct legal actions, that i did not discuss publicall<span></span>y before his death, I have kept silent for years about the</div>
2256<div>bizare charade of the GCD-GPD marriage. But I have kept my eyes wide open. It seemed very odd and telling indeed</div>
2257<div>that even years after the 2003 legal divorce in Hawaii that Geri <span></span>kept including “my husband Daniel Dubie” in all her</div>
2258<div>PR literature about the abundant life that Herbalife had made pos<span></span>sible for her. Even now readers in Brazil, China,</div>
2259<div>Finland, Mexico, Poland are being told about this happy life with<span></span> Daniel. (Other ladies in all those places may exist</div>
2260<div>silently waiting his return because he “is the one worth waiting <span></span>for”)</div>
2261<div>One example of many:</div>
2262<div>http://herbalifeww.com/br/pdf/News_More_Info_Items/9214.pdf</div>
2263<div>I would hope that Geri would now find the power to truly “Stand in the Power of Truth” (Geri’s public sales pitch:</div>
2264<div>http://www.internetnextstep.com/upline/2000/January/upline_magazi<span></span>ne_success_herbalife.htm<span>)</span></div>
2265<div>and publically expose and renounce him once and for all, for the <span></span>sakes of all of us who were run over by this monster.</div>
2266<div>7 01 2007</div>
2267<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(05:09:11)</span> :</span></div>
2268<div>Hi Hawaiianeyes and Hazel. Having a forum with you guys helps a lot.</div>
2269<div>Believe it or not, I finally cried! Tears, not because of Daniel’s death but from the pain he had caused me. I thought</div>
2270<div>about all the sacrifices I made for him because he made me believ<span></span>e that his love for me was real. Even after the fact</div>
2271<div>that I broke up with him I still feel his love for me was really <span></span>there from the beginning. But now that I know the truth,</div>
2272<div>I felt so used! There was NO LOVE at all. I was used.</div>
2273<div>Now that I cried, I really hope I can now move on without questio<span></span>n in my mind. I know it is impossible to erase him</div>
2274<div>in my memory but that’s ok. He will serve as a reminder of ” Bewa<span></span>re of the 666<span>!</span>. Here are some few things</div>
2275<div>about Daniel I want to share.</div>
2276<div>“The Daniel I know……..”</div>
2277<div>He said he was born in Arabia.</div>
2278<div>He said his father is a sheikh in Arabia.</div>
2279<div>He works for UN and CNN.</div>
2280<div>He is a Filmaker, does National Geographic documentary film</div>
2281<div>He co-produce Demi Moore movie ( Striptease) and…</div>
2282<div>Another movie called Rain Forest ( I checked these movies online <span></span>and never his name was on the movie credit)</div>
2283<div>He said there will be a movie coming out called “Now and Then” ( <span></span>Supposed to be last year) that he produce and that</div>
2284<div>he even act on it. (Of course, there was no such movie last year)</div>
2285<div>He was never been married but had relationships before with women<span></span> who only wants his money. I never knew of Geri</div>
2286<div>nor Jeanna and other women. I only knows ME..lol duh.</div>
2287</div>
2288<p> </p>
2289</div>
2290<div>
2291<div>
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2294<div>He said he has a lot of children but I didn’t know he has 17 or m<span></span>ore…duh.</div>
2295<div>I only seen the pictures of a young boy and a young girl and one that is in a recording business in NY and Felicia (</div>
2296<div>never met her but spoke to her</div>
2297<div>few times. She seems nice and very happy individual)</div>
2298<div>He said Jeanna was just his secretary ( He warned me not to talk <span></span>to her anymore because according to him, she is</div>
2299<div>crazy) Jeanna said Daniel is her bestfriend for 25 years.</div>
2300<div>He loves children and he wants one from me. Thank God, it didn’t <span></span>happen.</div>
2301<div>He was in comma for 3 months because of an accident.</div>
2302<div>He got very ill in Bali 3 years ago for about 6 months that he wa<span></span>s in bed and he hired a private nurse to take care of</div>
2303<div>him… so he wasn’t able to come home to Hawaii and cancel our plan<span></span> of spending time together in Bali.</div>
2304<div>He open a Spa in Thailand with a japanese business partner and he<span></span> offered me to work there to manage the Spa but</div>
2305<div>first he wanted me to go to school to learn Thai ( I believe him <span></span>and even went to Thailand to check the Spa supposed</div>
2306<div>to be but of course it did not happen because he supposed to pick<span></span> me up in Bangkok like he said but he never showed</div>
2307<div>up. It’s ok, I did my own</div>
2308<div>tour in Bangkok and Pattaya and still I had fun ): His excuse…he <span></span>had a business emergency and he flew to his</div>
2309<div>recording studio in NY. It’s all BS talk. He has no intention to <span></span>take me to his Spa at all because now that I know the</div>
2310<div>truth, his Thai lady was not only his business partner but also a<span></span> partner in bed!</div>
2311<div>He never said to me he was Jesus. He only believes in Buddha and <span></span>so he has a collection of them.</div>
2312<div>Yes, I have emails, postcards, copy of Soul At Bay and Tsunami DV<span></span>D of his Film and songs he recorded for me to</div>
2313<div>listen and some meditation books he gave me.</div>
2314<div>I don’t really know how much the truth and the lies about all the<span></span>se. But I am sharing these things to you so you know</div>
2315<div>how much he hurts me mentally and emotionally and why I felt so s<span></span>tupid right now.</div>
2316<div>I wish he didn’t have to die when Jeanna shot him so that I can f<span></span>ace him and put him to shame! But his dead and all I</div>
2317<div>can do now is find in my heart to forgive him so I can completely<span></span> close that book and never to be open again. Time</div>
2318<div>heals wound and yes it is just a matter of time.</div>
2319<div>Goodnight!</div>
2320<div>7 01 2007</div>
2321<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(11:55:06)</span> :</span></div>
2322<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2323<div>It also really helps me a lot to hear your story. He gave me the <span></span>whole arab routine as well. He had me call him</div>
2324<div>“Ahamed” in private.</div>
2325<div>Anyway–there are at least 3 movie/script/book projects going forw<span></span>ard at this point. SO if you can stand to hold on to</div>
2326<div>all those momentos and you want to provide some information to th<span></span>ese writers that may be one way to take a stand</div>
2327<div>and expose this deceit.</div>
2328<div>Your hard BKK story reminds me of a similar situation with him. A<span></span>fter 23 hrs of air flights half way around the world</div>
2329<div>He also left me standing at the airport. 3HOURS I waited for him.<span></span> He finally did show up but the same callous</div>
2330<div>disregard and constant unbelievable string of emergencies kept me<span></span> always off balance as well as his calls at random</div>
2331<div>times 24/7 even in the middle of the night. He pleaded that I alw<span></span>ays be available to answer the phone so I slept with 3</div>
2332<div>phones in the bed!!</div>
2333<div>This is such a strange and hard story to try to come to terms wit<span></span>h.</div>
2334</div>
2335<p> </p>
2336</div>
2337<div>
2338<div>
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2341<div>Big Hug,</div>
2342<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
2343<div>7 01 2007</div>
2344<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(13:11:28)</span> : <span>Your comment is awaiting moderation</span></span></div>
2345<div>Personal/Private</div>
2346<div>Dear Hazel, I am happy to share my personal email with Bernadette<span></span>. Can you let her know off line that she is</div>
2347<div>welcomed to write to me directly if she wishes at my yahoo.com ad<span></span>dress</div>
2348<div>Aloha,</div>
2349<div>a</div>
2350<div>7 01 2007</div>
2351<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(15:59:29)</span> :</span></div>
2352<div>Dear Bernadette and Hazel,</div>
2353<div>Is there any way to let “redeyegirl” know about Daniel. She has him up on her myspace page as one of her “heroes”.</div>
2354<div>She also lives here in Hawaii. I do not know how myspace works.</div>
2355<div>http://www.myspace.com/redeyegirl</div>
2356<div>Aloha,</div>
2357<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
2358<div>7 01 2007</div>
2359<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:57:38)</span> :</span></div>
2360<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2361<div>Sorry to be so chatty but I have so many questions and I am so ha<span></span>ppy to make your aquantance here.</div>
2362<div>One big thing. I pretty much believe in the whole murder story bu<span></span>t I continue to get the same kind of weird “spam”</div>
2363<div>that he used to send me. He admitted it after the TRO as his way <span></span>to communicate. Once the TROexpired he just wrote</div>
2364<div>to me plain and simple but now I am getting this “weird stuff” ag<span></span>ain. They are rambling messages with bits that made</div>
2365<div>some kind of sense. Like this one from “Felicia Daniel”. Since it<span></span> seems that he used a lot of the same approaches with</div>
2366<div>you and me I wonder if you got these and if you are still getting them.</div>
2367<div>I hope that this is all just random spam and i can forget about i<span></span>t. He has never disappeared completely from my life</div>
2368<div>since I met him so I am all jittery still wondering is he really <span></span>gone? Can I really rest now safely??</div>
2369<div>Thank you for your hlep with this!</div>
2370<div>************************</div>
2371<div>From: Felicia Daniel [mailto:pokqee@thepeoplenetwork.co.uk]</div>
2372<div>Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:20 AM</div>
2373<div>Subject: snob filmy</div>
2374<div>Content preview: I doubt if he had even heard the exchange of</div>
2375<div>opinionsbetween Markham and Vance. Heath shook hands pessimistica<span></span>lly</div>
2376<div>and went out. Vance wrote down the name and, rising, carried the <span></span>slip</div>
2377<div>of paper toHeath. I was rehearsing for A Pair ofQueens; but the</div>
2378<div>productions been postponed. There was insolent scorn in the docto<span></span>rs</div>
2379</div>
2380<p> </p>
2381</div>
2382<div>
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2386<div>tone. Markham, dont you dare let him go until he tells youwhere h<span></span>e was</div>
2387<div>Monday night. I certainlywould not have threatened her with thuggee,</div>
2388<div>even had I contemplatedso abominable an act. Andyour mention of t<span></span>he</div>
2389<div>Winter Garden reminds me. And so would you, snapped Markham, if t<span></span>he</div>
2390<div>newspapers werebutchering you for a political holiday. We want to<span></span> know</div>
2391<div>where you were atmidnight. Heath paused in his pacing and faced</div>
2392<div>Markham. Vance, he had his own private key to the Odell apartment<span></span>,all</div>
2393<div>right. I considered that my note to you covered that</div>
2394<div>questionsatisfactorily. Moritzscene in the Scandals would have su<span></span>ited</div>
2395<div>you perfectly. You have Cleaver rounded up tonight, Sergeant, and</div>
2396<div>bring him inhere tomorrow morning at nine. Dusky beauties belongt<span></span>o the</div>
2397<div>southern climes. And I want to know why he lied to me aboutthat</div>
2398<div>summons. Moritz scene of the Scandalsdoesnt go on until nearly el<span></span>even,</div>
2399<div>and it closes the bill. I knew Pop was chasing after the Canary, <span></span>and</div>
2400<div>Ijust supposed hed been calling on her. Ive been thinking, sir; a<span></span>nd</div>
2401<div>theres one thing that keeps coming upin my mind, so to speak. Ske<span></span>el</div>
2402<div>tries to make usbelieve he was immersed in Khun Khan. Vance stare<span></span>d at</div>
2403<div>him in satirical wonderment. Why did you shut him up twice when h<span></span>e was</div>
2404<div>trying totell me something? His words werevibrant with the intens<span></span>ity</div>
2405<div>of his passionate anger. Mannix forced a smile intended to be</div>
2406<div>disarming. First, then, please tell me where you were at midnight</div>
2407<div>Monday. And you wouldlike to turn my threat into a noose to hang me?</div>
2408<div>***************************************</div>
2409<div>From: Luisa Christiansen [mailto:mithrandirxrfp@blackspear.de]</div>
2410<div>Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 1:10 PM</div>
2411<div>Subject: Touche, Angel</div>
2412<div>Content preview: .Madness, you narrow-minded fool!. Jason pushed <span></span>himself</div>
2413<div>up on one arm, but bad to drop back as an arrow of pain shot thro<span></span>ugh the</div>
2414<div>muffling layers of the drug. .Do you think I.m lying here because<span></span> I.m</div>
2415<div>tired? Your kidnaping and intriguing led me a lot further into ba<span></span>ttle</div>
2416<div>than I ever intended, and right onto a long, sharp, unsanitary sw<span></span>ord. It</div>
2417<div>stuck me like a pig.. […]</div>
2418<div>************************************8</div>
2419<div>From: reshmi [mailto:dtwindhamxkwu@dive.office.ne.jp]</div>
2420<div>Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:21 PM</div>
2421<div>Subject: weird stuff</div>
2422<div>Content preview: any woman, nor have I seen any more men than you<span></span>, my</div>
2423<div>good friend, andnot enough, young man, that I can never get a swe<span></span>et look</div>
2424<div>or a kindThis she could not deny, as the clown was then sleeping within</div>
2425<div>her was found for though she had long forgiven the injuries which</div>
2426<div>Leontesand Claudio left the church, without staying to see if Hero</div>
2427<div>wouldattempt and then Rosalind spoke so kindly to him, and with s<span></span>uch for</div>
2428<div>the injuries he had done him. Orlando rejoiced to see him so spea<span></span>k to</div>
2429<div>you, and you, sir Thurio for Valentine, I need not bid himPortia <span></span>hearing</div>
2430<div>this, though the kindhearted lady was not at allher arm. I see he<span></span>r yet</div>
2431<div>her pretty action did outsell her gift, andupon the princess excl<span></span>aiming</div>
2432<div>wildly, O Imogen, my queen, my life, my then he was ashamed that <span></span>such a</div>
2433<div>creature as Gonerill should have sorespect little enough for him <span></span>that</div>
2434<div>once commanded a kingdom whicheldest, sought for refuge in the En<span></span>glish</div>
2435<div>court and the youngest, her sudden absence in this letter she inf<span></span>ormed</div>
2436<div>her, that she was so her sudden absence in this letter she inform<span></span>ed her,</div>
2437<div>that she was sofood given them. But I, who never knew what it was<span></span> to</div>
2438</div>
2439<p> </p>
2440</div>
2441<div>
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2445<div>intreat for anyof Syracuse, he whom the old man had come to Ephes<span></span>us to</div>
2446<div>seek, happenedto Adriana his wife, and tell her to send the money<span></span> for</div>
2447<div>which he was should have quenched her love, has, like an impedime<span></span>nt in</div>
2448<div>the current,Were you sent here to praise me Viola replied, I see <span></span>you</div>
2449<div>what youbargain, as if they had done him a piece of courtesy in letting</div>
2450<div>him in that abject condition, naked as he was born, living in the<span></span> manner</div>
2451<div>Romeo I am no pilot, yet wert thou as far apart from me, as thatR<span></span>omeo</div>
2452<div>further than this the friar could not follow the story, nortime s<span></span>upposed</div>
2453<div>that the true cause of Hamlet’s madness was love. Andlights to hi<span></span>s</div>
2454<div>chamber, and affecting or partly feeling a sudden insinuated, tha<span></span>t</div>
2455<div>Desdemona deceived her father in marrying withand she looked on t<span></span>he</div>
2456<div>paper, and said, It is my lord’s writing. ThatSailing from Tharsu<span></span>s to</div>
2457<div>Tyre, the ship in its course passed by overcame him, and he reele<span></span>d down</div>
2458<div>upon the floor and […]</div>
2459<div>9 01 2007</div>
2460<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(22:38:25)</span> :</span></div>
2461<div>Hi Hawaiianeyes, if you want to get to know redeyegirl on Myspace, you have to go to her page. And from there go</div>
2462<div>to the bottom of her picture where it usually says “contacting….s<span></span>o and so. Click the “Add to my Friend” or Add me”.</div>
2463<div>She will get your message. And if she approve it, you are in to h<span></span>er friends list and you can start chatting with her. OR,</div>
2464<div>you can just click the “Message Me or Send Me A Message” and it w<span></span>ill go to her inbox where no one sees the</div>
2465<div>message. Oh yah, you have to be a member also. I did checked out <span></span>her page and saw DD’s name there. I am sure she</div>
2466<div>knows DD but to what extent, I don’t know. God knows!</div>
2467<div>I am sorry that just last night I throw away all the stuff that D<span></span>aniel gave me. I didn’t feel like hanging on to them since</div>
2468<div>I felt like it came from a devil. After I read your message I wen<span></span>t back to the trash down the bldg. but it was gone. I</div>
2469<div>was able to save 2 DVD’s and some postcards.</div>
2470<div>I am cleaning all my stuff last night and I found our pictures to<span></span>gether as well as the gold necklace with blackpearl he</div>
2471<div>gave me 2 years ago. I throw them all away. So I don’t know how m<span></span>uch those stuff I save would help in a way. But</div>
2472<div>with your request, I will keep them. I could not watch his Souls <span></span>At Bay film I think because it is in a different format.</div>
2473<div>I think it is in PAL. But I did see his doc film of Tsunami.</div>
2474<div>Oh yah, Daniel never said he was Jesus and he only believes in Buddha. But he did told me that “He was God”. I did</div>
2475<div>not think so much about it. With that phone thing…hahah, I can im<span></span>agine you sleeping with 3 phones on the bed. f#@!</div>
2476<div>DD, I only have 3 hours sleep or less everytime he comes to my ap<span></span>t. and I have to work in the morning. He constantly</div>
2477<div>on the phone and doesn’t care waking me up.The guy never sleep. Yes, his phone would ring 24 hrs! He told me his</div>
2478<div>business is from all over the world so the calls was coming from <span></span>whoever on a different time zone.</div>
2479<div>OMG! Everytime I think about all these things about him, it is re<span></span>ally making me sick! I am so shame of myself for</div>
2480<div>being so damned! And never in my life that someone close to me th<span></span>at died, I never feel any sadness. I am not sad</div>
2481<div>about his death at all! I am not happy that he died but also I ne<span></span>ver care really.I looked closely at his dead picture with</div>
2482<div>Pim and I am trying to feel remorse or anything….but nothing! Lik<span></span>e I said, I only cried because I could not believe I</div>
2483<div>allow myself to get fooled for years!</div>
2484<div>He used me and abused me and treated me like trash!</div>
2485<div>Oh well, Hawaiianeyes, it is just a matter of time. YOU and I wil<span></span>l be the smartest women in the world after all that</div>
2486<div>weve been through! Because I will not allow anyone to treat me th<span></span>e way I was treated by Dubie.</div>
2487<div>God Bless You!</div>
2488<div>9 01 2007</div>
2489<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(23:05:19)</span> :</span></div>
2490<div>Oh…and about getting those email, no, I never recieve any. I am p<span></span>retty sure it is just SPAM. Maybe whoever has</div>
2491</div>
2492<p> </p>
2493</div>
2494<div>
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2497<div>53 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2498<div>access to his email or have gone through his emails after his dea<span></span>th is playing game to scare you. I believe you don’t</div>
2499<div>have to worry about him anymmore. I believe he’s gone completely <span></span>out of this world.</div>
2500<div>We can continue to unravel the truth for our own healing. I don’t<span></span> think there’s something wrong with it. We are</div>
2501<div>speaking of the truth and from our experiences. People should kno<span></span>w specially to those who think they know Daniel,</div>
2502<div>and learn from this. It is defenitely not an obssesion.</div>
2503<div>This is just a time of sharing, in seek for the answers to the qu<span></span>estions Daniel left behind.I know in time, we will put</div>
2504<div>these nightmare behind. I am here to support you Hawaiianeye.</div>
2505<div>Goodnight!</div>
2506<div>10 01 2007</div>
2507<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
2508<div><span>(15:27:40)</span> :</div>
2509<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2510<div>It is amazing how repetitive his con was!!! 2 years ago he told m<span></span>e he had bought me a beautiful black pearl pendant</div>
2511<div>but then did not mention it again. Did he realize at all that we <span></span>are real people? It seems that he looked at women as</div>
2512<div>some lesser life form “women are angels to serve we warriors” as <span></span>he said in an old newspaper article from his Kauaii</div>
2513<div>cult days.</div>
2514<div>I also threw away most of the stuff he gave me long ago.</div>
2515<div>You seem so much better than me at putting this all in context. T<span></span>he guy was definelty a true menace. Think of how</div>
2516<div>many other women like us he conned and strung along for years. Ev<span></span>en “personal prosperity” apparently was</div>
2517<div>financially abused by this guy through his chicanery despite her early prounoncements that:</div>
2518<div>“Mr. Dubie was a very well respected man in our community and did<span></span> wonderful things for the people especially</div>
2519<div>children around the world”</div>
2520<div>Where are all the great loving obituaries of this remarkable man <span></span>then??</div>
2521<div>” Margaret created this situation for herself and nobody else. Sh<span></span>e is responsible for her actions”</div>
2522<div>“Margaret should pay for the crime that she committed. The laws s<span></span>hould be obeyed and respected at any country one</div>
2523<div>person is at.”</div>
2524<div>None of us including PP would “create this situation for ourselve<span></span>s” any more than we would stick a burning stick into</div>
2525<div>our eye.</div>
2526<div>“The laws should be obeyed” Daniel was the only one in this story that prior his murder that I can see clearly flaunted</div>
2527<div>not only the rule of law but common decency, civility, respect, h<span></span>onestly, loyalty and morality.</div>
2528<div>Daniel is truly “resonsible for [his] actions” but as soon as he <span></span>lied and deceived he took from trusting women their</div>
2529<div>right of self determination. If a woman is being lied to and stra<span></span>tegically deceived then it is ludicrous to assert that the</div>
2530<div>outcomes are all her choosing and her responsiblity. The phrases <span></span>that PP used are logical in an of themselves but</div>
2531<div>strung together in this context they complete miss the mark and a<span></span>bsolve DD of any “responsiblity”.</div>
2532<div>But, I still blame myself endlessly for somehow not doing better.<span></span> I should have done the rape kit and let him be</div>
2533<div>prosecuted from the begining to “pay for the crime that [he] comm<span></span>itted”. He had sent all kinds of love letters and</div>
2534<div>tapes before that rape and was apparently an accepted member of t<span></span>he circle of friends of a trusted aquaintance of mine</div>
2535<div>and so I was really confused. But it was not my fault. I had told<span></span> him repeatedly that I would not commit adultery and</div>
2536<div>that if that happened to me I would commit suicide. I had a simpl<span></span>e life and had never crossed any lines like that.</div>
2537<div>He has done more harm to me than anyone EVER. I am so ANGRY but t<span></span>here is no real way to direct that. I feel</div>
2538<div>trapped in a cylce of anger/ depression/ compassion/acceptance bu<span></span>t it never really goes away. maybe that is just the</div>
2539<div>way the human psyche is wired.</div>
2540<div>Thank you for your honesty and kind friendship-</div>
2541</div>
2542<p> </p>
2543</div>
2544<div>
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2548<div>Aloha pumehana,</div>
2549<div>HE</div>
2550<div>10 01 2007</div>
2551<div>Lee<span> <span>(21:42:10)</span> :</span></div>
2552<div>Dear Hawaiianeyes,</div>
2553<div>Thanks for your post on the Thai forum. And after reading all of the above it just seems to be getting worse–what</div>
2554<div>with all these new stories coming out. I am incredulous as to how<span></span> one person could do so much harm to so many</div>
2555<div>people! I have had my own tanglings with abuse in a relationship,<span></span> but it still never ceases to amaze me how or why</div>
2556<div>anyone could do these things to another human being. I was once t<span></span>old that one can never make sense of a crazy</div>
2557<div>person. Many years after the fact and a lot of growing within myself I know now that no one will ever again hurt me</div>
2558<div>in that way again. I am acutely aware of how people treat me and <span></span>speak to me. As for the folks I know who were</div>
2559<div>involved with GPD it seems that they will never be completely hea<span></span>led. So I am there for them if they ever want to talk</div>
2560<div>about it. I am sorry that you and Bernadette and all the others h<span></span>ave had to deal with ongoing pain and mental anguish.</div>
2561<div>Blessings to you all!!</div>
2562<div>Lee (aka islandgirl)</div>
2563<div>11 01 2007</div>
2564<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:48:57)</span> :</span></div>
2565<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
2566<div>THANK YOU for opening your blog to this topic. I would have never “met” Bernadette and learned so much without</div>
2567<div>this remarkable safe haven of expression!</div>
2568<div>Beautiful (virtual) White Ginger Lei to you!!</div>
2569<div>HE</div>
2570<div>13 01 2007</div>
2571<div>kari<span> <span>(12:51:01)</span> :</span></div>
2572<div>today, the 12th of Jan. is the hearing in Hawaii for probate and will. Just thought you all might want to know. But it</div>
2573<div>seems that his children won’t ever be taken care of, because of a<span></span>ll the lies and crap from the many that can’t see that</div>
2574<div>his kids, all of them, should be the ones now to get at least a l<span></span>ittle something of his holdings. They are the abused and</div>
2575<div>innocent ones that didn’t deserve to have all of this happen to t<span></span>hem. I love you all and hope we can all meet someday.</div>
2576<div>God bless you all. Love, Kari (Karen A Shoblom/Dubie/Davis)</div>
2577<div>13 01 2007</div>
2578<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:41:25)</span> :</span></div>
2579<div>Kari, Thank you for the information.</div>
2580<div>My heart goes out to you and I add my wishes to yours, may you al<span></span>l meet someday, may you all find healing and</div>
2581<div>justice and the answers you seek.</div>
2582<div>Sincerely,</div>
2583<div>Hazel.</div>
2584<div>13 01 2007</div>
2585<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(14:27:27)</span> :</span></div>
2586<div>Aloha Kari,</div>
2587</div>
2588<p> </p>
2589</div>
2590<div>
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2594<div>I have worked hard to get the best possible *independent counsel*<span></span> to review the probate filings and will provide all</div>
2595<div>the information that I have to support that effort. I agree with <span></span>you 100% that all attention at this point should be</div>
2596<div>focused on protecting the surviving children equally (including t<span></span>he adult children long neglected).</div>
2597<div>This estate is not going to be at all straight forward and there <span></span>are plenty of sharks trolling the waters of paradise. I will</div>
2598<div>certainly do all I can to assist in the fight for truth in this f<span></span>inal chapter of GPD story. Those with plenty seem never to</div>
2599<div>be satisfied and the children will suffer if that type of greed is not opposed. I find it very odd indeed that “creditors”</div>
2600<div>claims should be honored before the children. Nuissance claims an<span></span>d exagerated damage claims do nothing to redress</div>
2601<div>grievances against GPD at this point they only hurt the innocents<span></span> of this whole tragedy.</div>
2602<div>Peace,</div>
2603<div>HE</div>
2604<div>18 01 2007</div>
2605<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(02:17:58)</span> :</span></div>
2606<div>Hi Hawaiianeyes, how are you? I hope all is well and that you are happy. I am fine and just keeping myself busy at</div>
2607<div>work.</div>
2608<div>Maybe the reason why it seems like I was more stronger than you a<span></span>re about this whole thing of DD was because</div>
2609<div>before his death I broke up with him already. I said “Goodbye” to<span></span> him first. Although he was still calling me and</div>
2610<div>BS’ng me I was still nice to him. Yes, I was once in love with th<span></span>is guy. But after I found out the truth about this man,</div>
2611<div>I just realise there was no reason at all to even</div>
2612<div>linger on to his memories. He is not worth of any of my tears.</div>
2613<div>Take care Hawaiianeyes!</div>
2614<div>Continue to be strong!</div>
2615<div>Bernadette</div>
2616<div>18 01 2007</div>
2617<div>Lee<span> <span>(08:48:14)</span> :</span></div>
2618<div>It looks like the Thai Visa Forum has been closed again. It’s too<span></span> bad when someone comes along to trash what others</div>
2619<div>have to say regarding their experiences with GPD. I hope that HE and specialtalk will continue on this site.</div>
2620<div>Blessings,</div>
2621<div>Islandgirl</div>
2622<div>18 01 2007</div>
2623<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(21:52:40)</span> :</span></div>
2624<div>To Hazel, “Thank you” for your blog. I would have not known anything about Daniel if not with your blog.</div>
2625<div>To Hawaiianeyes and Kari, “Thank you” for sharing your stories. The more I read stuff on this blog, the more I am</div>
2626<div>learning about Daniel.</div>
2627<div>I know I should not say this but I felt like the more I am learni<span></span>ng about Daniel, I realise I am the dumbest of all!</div>
2628<div>Literally, he made me feel like some kind of a doormat! If only y<span></span>ou guys knows what all the sacrifices I made for</div>
2629<div>him. But oh well he is dead. But really, I wish he didn’t die so <span></span>I could face him. I just really want to spit on his face.I</div>
2630<div>am sorry. I am ok now though once in a while I can’t help thinkin<span></span>g about him and getting mad at myself. But like I</div>
2631<div>said I have already moved on before his death. It was just him ca<span></span>lling me all the time and telling me lies.</div>
2632<div>Again, “Thank you, Thank you” ALL for revealing the truth.</div>
2633</div>
2634<p> </p>
2635</div>
2636<div>
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2640<div>Bernadette</div>
2641<div>19 01 2007</div>
2642<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(15:56:23)</span> :</span></div>
2643<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2644<div>Please be patient with yourself. I don’t think that the heart und<span></span>erstands the concept of time. I don’t think that the</div>
2645<div>words “move on” mean anything to attachments that go to the depth<span></span> of your soul. To give your heart fully to someone</div>
2646<div>and to open up to them to the deepest part of your being can not <span></span>help but leave a lasting footprint. For good or for bad.</div>
2647<div>I don’t think that we can will it away. I don’t think that gettin<span></span>g mad at yourself will help. Please do not think of any of</div>
2648<div>your actions as “dumb”. I think that we who were his targets were<span></span> real women with real hearts and souls that he saw</div>
2649<div>as his to break and own and use. That really is not our fault. He was a world class pro at this game. We were not. I</div>
2650<div>think it is important to allow yourself to grieve or to rage and <span></span>even to remember your own gentle feelings as your own</div>
2651<div>and not to put any time line on that.</div>
2652<div>The most important thing I think is to come to terms with the tru<span></span>th and accept this as “when bad things happen to</div>
2653<div>good people” kind of tragedy.</div>
2654<div>If we can be here for each other and offer honest encouragement and openess that is good.</div>
2655<div>To judge ourselves or each other as dumb etc I think does damage.<span></span> GPD already did enough of that. I think we should</div>
2656<div>build little walls around our hearts to protect us from damage fr<span></span>om predators but especially from the nagging self</div>
2657<div>doubts that being with him leaves. His voices and actions that we<span></span> were there to serve him was a LIE. Let us not listen</div>
2658<div>to that lie or any other lies that tear us down any more. For me <span></span>I think that this will be a struggle for the rest of my</div>
2659<div>life. It has been 7 years since his worst abuse of me and my trus<span></span>t and 7 months since i last talked to him. I do think I</div>
2660<div>am getting better and stronger and I think that process will cont<span></span>inue but I don’t think it will ever be fine with me or</div>
2661<div>that I will ever feel that I have “moved on”. I just want to have<span></span> as much of heart put back together as I can get and be</div>
2662<div>happy for what is left of me. that I am still capable of laughter<span></span> and love and joy. If I suffer nightmares or terrors or</div>
2663<div>rage or tears sometimes then so be it. I do not want to get mad a<span></span>t myself. If I had a daughter who experienced this and</div>
2664<div>she still cried years later i would not shut her down or tell her<span></span> to move on or that it was dumb. I would just hold her</div>
2665<div>until the storm passed and try to give her a safe happy life. IF <span></span>we would treat our daughters so kind and gently I think</div>
2666<div>we should treat ourselves like that too!</div>
2667<div>Peace</div>
2668<div>HE</div>
2669<div>22 01 2007</div>
2670<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(11:43:32)</span> :</span></div>
2671<div>Thank you HE! I learned a lot from this experience.</div>
2672<div>Well, I hope someday you find it in your heart to move on and rea<span></span>lise that in order to teach our children from what we</div>
2673<div>been through, first we have to have peace in our mind and heart. <span></span>We learned the truth and now we just have to accept</div>
2674<div>it because there is nothing we can do now but to share our ordeal<span></span> to others and so them too can learn from this. Yes I</div>
2675<div>am angry for the abuse I’ve experienced as well. But you are right, I cannot get mad at myself and judge myself for</div>
2676<div>being just a nice person. Instead, I will continue living without<span></span> beating myself up over this. Somehow I have to move</div>
2677<div>on just like I was trying to do beforer he came back and start ca<span></span>lling me again. I didn’t really fall for it again but I</div>
2678<div>entertained him and had listened to all his lies.</div>
2679<div>I hope HE that you find peace in your heart completey . I am sorr<span></span>y that you are still having a hard time. I do believe it</div>
2680<div>is just a matter of time.</div>
2681<div>In my case, I truly believe that the only way I could find peace in my heart through this experience was to put</div>
2682<div>everything behind me . It is always gonna be there and I cannot e<span></span>rase the fact that I</div>
2683</div>
2684<p> </p>
2685</div>
2686<div>
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2689<div>57 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2690<div>got fooled for so many years. And that from time to time when I t<span></span>hink about this, I may still think how stupid I was</div>
2691<div>then. But like I said, I will do all my best to put this behind m<span></span>e and this ordeal will serve as my lesson and a reminder</div>
2692<div>that I cannot trust anyone 100% no matter what. Even if they put <span></span>a mask and seems like they are angel, I should</div>
2693<div>always remember we should always have that benefit of a doubt for<span></span> our own protection.</div>
2694<div>Life goes on for me. I still have a life to treasure for we all k<span></span>now that we do not own our life and it can be taken away</div>
2695<div>at anytime.Besides after learning the truth about DD, I realise h<span></span>e was not even worth of anything!</div>
2696<div>Peace,</div>
2697<div>Bernadette</div>
2698<div>23 01 2007</div>
2699<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
2700<div><span>(22:07:29)</span> :</div>
2701<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2702<div>Please forgive me if I am going out on a tangent that you did not<span></span> intend, but I find myself in a strange position. Your</div>
2703<div>message ended with “after learning the truth about DD, I realise <span></span>he was not even worth anything”. That statement hit</div>
2704<div>me hard and made me feel really sad. He certainly was a liar and <span></span>a cheat and filled with the conceit that he was a</div>
2705<div>divine blameless being who had the right to use others as he saw <span></span>fit and all of that is disgusting in the light of day. He</div>
2706<div>certainly hurt us and left us doubting ourselves and anyone new we will now meet for the rest of our lives. But I</div>
2707<div>would not say he was not worth anything. I did love him unconditi<span></span>onally and I still do love him, dead or not, cheat etc</div>
2708<div>or not. I just do. My respect is conditional and he lost that. My<span></span> trust is conditional and he lost that. But even when he</div>
2709<div>called in May and I told him all this exactly that as long as he <span></span>continued living lies, I would have no part of it and I</div>
2710<div>hated his choice to live that way. I also told him that I loved h<span></span>im and I always would but his life would be a waste if</div>
2711<div>he did not reject all the lies he was living in. He said he knew <span></span>that. I don’t think his life was not worth anything –he</div>
2712<div>certainly largely squandered his gifts and many should have the c<span></span>hance to spit in his face but I guess the only peace I</div>
2713<div>find in this whole story is in the peace I have that my love was/<span></span>is simple and unconditional.</div>
2714<div>It is so nice to be able to write about all this and sort of work<span></span> it through! Thank you Bernadette and Hazel.</div>
2715<div>Aloha,</div>
2716<div>HE</div>
2717<div>24 01 2007</div>
2718<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(02:01:23)</span> :</span></div>
2719<div>HE, I do understand how you feel and I hope you understand me as well. I have no regret of saying “Daniel is not</div>
2720<div>worth of anything. That is my opinion because’ Daniel Dubie” was not a real person to me. He wasn’t the person I</div>
2721<div>thought he was. He was a complete stranger to me. Nothing he said<span></span> was true. He was already hurting me both</div>
2722<div>emotionally as well as mentally even when we were together. He ma<span></span>de me believe that I was the only one he truly</div>
2723<div>loves and I was his soulmate and that there was no other woman . <span></span>He hurt my feelings over and over and over, more</div>
2724<div>so after finding out the truth about him. Yes, I was once in love<span></span> with Daniel Dubie, the man I came to know. But he</div>
2725<div>truly did not exist so therefore there was no reason for me at al<span></span>l to continue loving him nor to respect him even to his</div>
2726<div>death. And that’s why Daniel Dubie was not worthy of anything. I was isolated from everything so I have no</div>
2727<div>knowledge of his background except from what Jeanna told me and f<span></span>rom visiting some of his houses and the pictures</div>
2728<div>on the wall and from talking to Felicia. It seems like enough for<span></span> me to believe in him so much.</div>
2729<div>HE, I believe that you have bonded with Daniel more than I did. I<span></span> understand and respect that you still love him</div>
2730<div>despite of all his lies. Who knows, he must truly love you as wel<span></span>l. He maybe have other plans for both of you. But as</div>
2731<div>for me, when I think about myself now, there was no love at all! <span></span>He did not love me, ever! He used me for sex, to</div>
2732<div>serve him and take care of him when his in town and abused me and<span></span> played with my heart. He even met my family.</div>
2733<div>So he also lied to them .And that “HURTS”. He hurt me big time. S<span></span>o now I know I cannot beat up myself over this</div>
2734<div>and just accept that it happened to me and I learned my lesson.</div>
2735</div>
2736<p> </p>
2737</div>
2738<div>
2739<div>
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2741<div>58 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2742<div>We both are dealing with this in a different way. But I really do<span></span> understand how you feel. Yes, I was in love with the</div>
2743<div>Daniel I came to know , not the “MONSTER” I discovered. I cannot <span></span>even say I love this guy unconditional. Because</div>
2744<div>like I said he was not real. He never existed! The true Daniel Du<span></span>bie was the one dead because of his dark side.</div>
2745<div>Peace and Mahalo to you,</div>
2746<div>Bernadette</div>
2747<div>24 01 2007</div>
2748<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(21:34:22)</span> :</span></div>
2749<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
2750<div>Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me. I do think I u<span></span>nderstand now. You are right “Daniel Dubie” never</div>
2751<div>even existed becasue he was not real-just another ficticious alia<span></span>s. George Patrick Dubie was addictied to disguises. He</div>
2752<div>had me call him Ahamed. When I busted his cover-not all of them m<span></span>ind you, he confessed to so much more and</div>
2753<div>seemed relieved to do so. He boosted about his scams on Geri and <span></span>others and asked for my forgiveness. I felt appalled</div>
2754<div>and sickened by his life. I felt especially concerned for Felicia. He played me tapes of her phone messages where she</div>
2755<div>would play him music and tell him he was her divine heavenly fath<span></span>er as well as her human father. This divine</div>
2756<div>egomaniacal streak of his repelled me. Since he took me into his <span></span>confidences in a way, I spent the time to try to urge</div>
2757<div>him to denounce that cr*p and come clean. I stayed true to myself<span></span> and tried to pull him out of the jaws of hell but he</div>
2758<div>really seemed to think that he was master of his life and did not<span></span> think that the lies were the master of him.</div>
2759<div>At this point he is dead. I am worried for Felicia. Can she see a<span></span>ll this? I am angry with Jeana, why didn’t she refuse to</div>
2760<div>participate-why did she seem to enable his predations. I worry ho<span></span>w many other victims are out there. I worry what</div>
2761<div>was the depths of his immorality-was he involved in human traffic<span></span>king? What of the pornagraphy that was reported</div>
2762<div>by FBI to me?</div>
2763<div>I think the best we can do is to be out on the WWW discussing the<span></span>se things so that others may have a place to come</div>
2764<div>forward to .</div>
2765<div>Still watching-</div>
2766<div>Hawaiianeyes</div>
2767<div>27 01 2007</div>
2768<div>kari<span> <span>(11:25:37)</span> :</span></div>
2769<div>wow! This just goes on and on, huh?</div>
2770<div>Hi, Bernadette, sorry to hear you were one of his victims too, bu<span></span>t don’t ever feel bad about yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>
2771<div>George Dubie, was a very sly evil guy that used everyone.</div>
2772<div>People like you and me are for real and didn’t think it possible <span></span>for someone to be that evil.</div>
2773<div>Did you all notice that his children aren’t writing on any blog o<span></span>r post??????????? Not that I know of anyway.</div>
2774<div>Just try to think about how his many sperm offsprings feel right <span></span>now!!!!!!!!!!!!!</div>
2775<div>I have three of Dubie’s children, and I can tell you, they are so hurt! I can’t even imagin what all is going on inside</div>
2776<div>them. My Jamil, Calista and Christian are my everything. I never <span></span>lied to them about their dad. He finally stayed away</div>
2777<div>from us because he knew he couldn’t ever gain his control back on<span></span> any of us.</div>
2778<div>I’m so very proud of the fact that I, along with Sylvie, put him <span></span>in Jail.</div>
2779<div>Boy, you should have seen the look in his eyes when the 5 FBI agents jumped on him, pushed him down and</div>
2780<div>handcuffed him. If looks could kill, I’d be dead.</div>
2781</div>
2782<p> </p>
2783</div>
2784<div>
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2787<div>59 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2788<div>He really was quite a wimp when it came right down to it, always <span></span>whinning about his fake injuries. lol lol lol</div>
2789<div>sorry, but my sorrow is for my children.</div>
2790<div>Dubie was their father, but, NEVER their dad.</div>
2791<div>Aloha, Kari (specialk)</div>
2792<div>P.S. Felicia, I would love to hear from you. Calista and I do tru<span></span>ely love you. We have love for all you kids. The ones I</div>
2793<div>know are: Vanessa, (My Jamil, Calista and Christian.) Felicia, Sh<span></span>awny, and Kalina. If any of Dubie’s children would</div>
2794<div>like to contact me, please do. You all have a lot of half brother<span></span>s and sisters out there. I would love for you all to reach</div>
2795<div>out and find each other. Not here on the blog of course… but, anytime, feel free to write me at</div>
2796<div>olymom4@yahoo.com.</div>
2797<div>Peace to you all.</div>
2798<div>27 01 2007</div>
2799<div>kari<span> <span>(11:28:46)</span> :</span></div>
2800<div>Oh, by the way, I was present the day the arab garb pictures were taken and the soldier ones.</div>
2801<div>Just a start to many of his cons. Just ask Sarada how he wanted h<span></span>er to paint him looking like Jesus. Yucky….makes</div>
2802<div>me sick to remember those times.</div>
2803<div>28 01 2007</div>
2804<div>Namaste<span> <span>(21:47:57)</span> :</span></div>
2805<div>“In cultivating compassion</div>
2806<div>we draw from the wholeness</div>
2807<div>of our experience - our suffering,</div>
2808<div>our empathy, as well as our</div>
2809<div>cruelty and terror.</div>
2810<div>It has to be that way. Compassion</div>
2811<div>is not a relationship</div>
2812<div>between the healer and the wounded.</div>
2813<div>It’s a relationship between equals.</div>
2814<div>Only when we know our own darkness well</div>
2815<div>can we be present</div>
2816<div>with the darkness</div>
2817<div>of others.”</div>
2818<div>- Pema Chondron</div>
2819<div>29 01 2007</div>
2820<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
2821<p> </p>
2822<div>(23:30:23)<span> :</span></div>
2823<div>Dear Namaste</div>
2824<div>,</div>
2825<div>At first I did not like your post as it reminded me of so many th<span></span>ings that “Ahamed” would say and send and seemed to</div>
2826<div>be just the sort of thing I began to suspect that GPD was using a<span></span>s a an apparent diversionary tactic in response to</div>
2827<div>some challenge by me to live in Truth.</div>
2828<div>But then I liked it more and more and realized that his affection<span></span> for spiritual exploration and discovery was one of the</div>
2829<div>dearest aspects of him and really opened alot of schools of thoug<span></span>ht up to me that I read voraciously and greatly</div>
2830<div>enjoyed. Although his OSHO tapes etc seemed to have a creepy edge of women asking questions of “beloved one”</div>
2831<div>etc there is a great gift not to be lost here. He may well (as so<span></span>me have pointed out) have used the wisdom of great</div>
2832<div>teachers to mesmerize me or distract me from other less noble thi<span></span>ngs he was up to but I certainly do not want all this</div>
2833<div>to become an excuse to become hardened to all beauty and mystery.<span></span> I agree that in the deepest sense compassion can</div>
2834</div>
2835<p> </p>
2836</div>
2837<div>
2838<div>
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2840<div>60 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2841<div>only be meaningful if it arises from the ashes of great suffering<span></span>.</div>
2842<div>So I looked up the author you cite and find a very interesting book</div>
2843<div>The Places that Scare You: A Guide to Fearlessness in Difficult T<span></span>imes (Shambhala Classics) (Paperback)</div>
2844<div>by Pema Chodron</div>
2845<div>there is an excerpt that is quite wonderful:</div>
2846<div>http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1570629218/ref=sib_dp_pop_ex/105-<span></span>6566395-6499617?ie=UTF8&amp;p=S00L#reader</div>
2847<div>I especially like what Pema says essentially about the mystery of<span></span> unconditional love. I have been struggling with this</div>
2848<div>and trying to understand why I should still feel such strong love<span></span> for GPD despite all the “facts”. She does a lovely job</div>
2849<div>of describing how this love is a gift and does not need to conform to “facts” and can and simply should allowed to just</div>
2850<div>BE. and that this love can lift us to another (tender) level of b<span></span>eing.</div>
2851<div>Pema starts chapter one with this quote;</div>
2852<div>“It is ony with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essen<span></span>tial is invisible to the eye”. –Antoine de Saint-Exupery</div>
2853<div>Thank you for your contribution to this dialogue, Namaste</div>
2854<div>aloha,</div>
2855<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
2856<div>4 02 2007</div>
2857<div>Namaste<span> <span>(00:38:06)</span> :</span></div>
2858<div>hawaiianeyes,</div>
2859<div>Pleased you’ve responded to the invitation to soften…</div>
2860<div>“Compassion practice is daring.</div>
2861<div>It involves learning to relax and allowing ourselves to move gent<span></span>lty toward what scares us.</div>
2862<div>The trick to doing this is to stay with emotional distress withou<span></span>t tightening into aversion; to let fear soften us rather</div>
2863<div>than harden into resistance.” - Pema Chodron</div>
2864<div>4 02 2007</div>
2865<div>fruittbatt<span> <span>(20:07:16)</span> :</span></div>
2866<div>Namaste and Hawaiianeyes,</div>
2867<div>thank you both for these valuable quotes. These profound yet simp<span></span>le thoughts on compassion and love are worth</div>
2868<div>reflection and practice, I believe.</div>
2869<div>6 02 2007</div>
2870<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
2871<p> </p>
2872<div>(11:36:23)<span> :</span></div>
2873<div>Perhaps a deeper lesson is balance.</div>
2874<div>Yin and Yang of life,</div>
2875<div>To be hardened- to be softened.</div>
2876<div>It could be as dangerous to be exclusively “tender” as to be excl<span></span>usively hard.</div>
2877<div>I saw GPD reward my tenderness but flee and then try to undermine<span></span> my strength.</div>
2878<div>I would not want to lose either side of me.</div>
2879<div>14 02 2007</div>
2880</div>
2881<p> </p>
2882</div>
2883<div>
2884<div>
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2886<div>61 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2887<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(00:39:30)</span> :</span></div>
2888<div>Hi Hawaiianeyes, does anyone knows where daniel’s body was buried? Just wondering.</div>
2889<div>Hey, it is Valentines day tomorrow. I wish you all the best and h<span></span>ope that you are happy!</div>
2890<div>To Kari and Hazel, Happy Valentines Day!</div>
2891<div>Peace &amp; Love,</div>
2892<div>Bernadette</div>
2893<div>14 02 2007</div>
2894<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(13:26:24)</span> :</span></div>
2895<div>Happy Valentines Day to you too Bernadette, Kari, Hazel, Island Girl, Robin, Fruittbatt, Iris, TruthPrevails, and</div>
2896<div>Angel and her little sibs!</div>
2897<div>I feel blessed to get to know you all as we consider in the quest<span></span>ions that have brought us togehter. The answers that</div>
2898<div>have been proposed enrich me and bring me some measure of peace.</div>
2899<div>It was reported that he was cremated in Chiang Mai. I don’t know <span></span>more than that.</div>
2900<div>(It may be my irish imagination but i do feel his presence many t<span></span>imes in many ways and in many weird funny little</div>
2901<div>things that happen. I am becoming more and more at peace about th<span></span>e whole drama and hold onto the tender feelings</div>
2902<div>that really do still bring me joy.)</div>
2903<div>Aloha,</div>
2904<div>HE</div>
2905<div>14 02 2007</div>
2906<div>An unbeliever<span> <span>(19:35:13)</span> :</span></div>
2907<div>I’m sure that if he was still alive, you’d all send him a valenti<span></span>ne. What a sad world we live in.</div>
2908<div>15 02 2007</div>
2909<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:44:55)</span> :</span></div>
2910<div>Unbeliever, isnt it odd that on Valentines Day you would choose to make a statement about what you believe about</div>
2911<div>the posters in this thread.</div>
2912<div>The judgemental tone of your comment, is what is sad about the wo<span></span>rld we live in today.</div>
2913<div>Go find someone to hug.</div>
2914<div>15 02 2007</div>
2915<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:47:06)</span> :</span></div>
2916<div>Hawaiin Eyes, Happy Belated Valentines Day!</div>
2917<div>And also to everyone else participating in this thread, including<span></span> YOU Unbeliever.</div>
2918<div>XOX</div>
2919<div>15 02 2007</div>
2920</div>
2921<p> </p>
2922</div>
2923<div>
2924<div>
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2926<div>62 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2927<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(13:13:58)</span> :</span></div>
2928<div>Unbeliever,</div>
2929<div>Looks to me that you are just passing by on the information super<span></span> highway and have no real knowledge or experience</div>
2930<div>with any aspect of this story so it is probably a waste of time t<span></span>o respond to your comment.</div>
2931<div>Still, I will take a moment to try to “break it down” for you in <span></span>case you actually do care to understand come of the</div>
2932<div>writers on this thread.</div>
2933<div>NONE of us, that I know of, who went through this sit around dreamy eyed, blindly “believing” in lies, furtively</div>
2934<div>writing Valentines Day cards with no one now to send them to. We <span></span>have all fought hard to tear down his silly Wizard</div>
2935<div>of Oz type curtains and expose the small man behind that curtain.<span></span> Still it would be a “sad world” indeed if in the</div>
2936<div>doing of all this hard work we lost our ability to love and to ch<span></span>erish the memories of those transcendent moments</div>
2937<div>when we showed genuine love to another. If GPD was not worthy of that, it is just another fact that we deal with in</div>
2938<div>this “sad world” in which we all live.</div>
2939<div>But I think the world in more complex than that. It is certainly <span></span>sad, tragic and hard but there are moments of joy,</div>
2940<div>courage and transcendence that light the way forward.</div>
2941<div>I celebrate that. OK?</div>
2942<div>Happy Valentines Day Unbeliever</div>
2943<div>HE</div>
2944<div>15 02 2007</div>
2945<div>An unbeliever<span> <span>(22:45:45)</span> :</span></div>
2946<div>Your response was sadly predictable. The fact that you chose Valentines Day to extend a collective hug and indulge</div>
2947<div>in a little trip down the sweet side of memory lane with George D<span></span>ubie prompted me to write. Yes, even Hitler, Stalin,</div>
2948<div>Mao, Pol Pot and Pinochet must have had their moments of romance <span></span>and kindness. They must also have been masters</div>
2949<div>at making ordinary individuals feel that they were the chosen one<span></span>s sitting at the right hand of God, even if it was only</div>
2950<div>for a brief moment in time before someone else took that position<span></span>. But do those moments make up for the grief and</div>
2951<div>pain he caused? Shall we excuse the lies, cheating and stealing, physical violence, rape and sodomy, chaining a little</div>
2952<div>boy in a bath without food while his mother watched on? The list goes on. You dirty the occasion of Valentines Day</div>
2953<div>and its message of love, pure and simple by connecting it to him <span></span>on this message board.</div>
2954<div>You, Hawaiian Eyes, claim that you’re trying to get the bottom of<span></span> all this by going over it incessantly, like an</div>
2955<div>alcoholic claiming that if he has just one more little nip he mig<span></span>ht find out why he’s addicted to the stuff. You’re</div>
2956<div>picking at sores that will never heal until you shift your attent<span></span>ion elsewhere. I guess you all, or were, drawn to Eastern</div>
2957<div>religion through Dubie’s guru status, yet you all ignore the fund<span></span>amental message in Buddhism: the past is dead and</div>
2958<div>the future hasn’t arrived yet. Here in the NOW is where we should<span></span> be. Read Krishnamurti, or even better, Eckhart</div>
2959<div>Tolle’s book ‘The Power of Now’ because he sums it up better than<span></span> I ever could. Instead of picking at the bones of a</div>
2960<div>dead conman with more money than sense, think how many wonderful <span></span>people there are in this world for you to</div>
2961<div>connect with.</div>
2962<div>Before you decide to hammer me for what you see as -taking the mo<span></span>ral high ground- let me assure you that I’ve been</div>
2963<div>on the receiving end myself in a couple of relationships; women w<span></span>ho could have taught Dubie a thing or two about</div>
2964<div>cruelty and how to string someone along even when you don’t want them. It was only when I stopped trying to make</div>
2965<div>sense of it all that I moved on.</div>
2966<div>16 02 2007</div>
2967<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:49:43)</span> :</span></div>
2968<div>Hello Unbeliever,</div>
2969</div>
2970<p> </p>
2971</div>
2972<div>
2973<div>
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2975<div>63 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
2976<div>Sorry you are obviously a real person. I mistook your quick hit a<span></span>nd run for a troll.</div>
2977<div>I think that we have more in common in our assessment of GPD than<span></span> you know.</div>
2978<div>I am not a blind “believer” in GPD, in Buddhism, new age trips or<span></span> in any absolute dictate. I am a student of life and I</div>
2979<div>have my eyes wide open. And yes, I have read Eckhart Tolle’s book.</div>
2980<div>You appear to attempt to pigeon hole me as an addict- incessantly<span></span> picking at sores so they won’t heal. Sorry that</div>
2981<div>doesn’t ring true to me. Yes, I am ruthlessly stubborn at digging<span></span> out the cancer that he would have infused my soul</div>
2982<div>with. I have busted so many secrets on this guy it can not be und<span></span>erstated that I have used the power of truth to</div>
2983<div>decimate him-in court, in my life, in a broader context. So NO I <span></span>won’t back down.</div>
2984<div>What we were trying to get at here is that sad dichotomy of disco<span></span>vering a monster in your bed even years after the</div>
2985<div>fact. What do you do if you are Hitler’s mother? We stand united <span></span>in our hatred of evil and lies. But until the last</div>
2986<div>breath there is still a chance of “redemption” in the Power of No<span></span>w.</div>
2987<div>GPD is dead that chance is gone. We who were his targets are not.<span></span> “Moving on” is a reckless obsession of those who</div>
2988<div>cannot bear the untidiness of pain or life. If there is no past o<span></span>r future only the endless parade of NOW then there is no</div>
2989<div>depth or dimension to life, there is no chance to learn or grow o<span></span>r reflect. More than anyone I ever encountered GPD</div>
2990<div>was addicted to the POWER OF NOW.</div>
2991<div>Sadly predictable arguments and labels have been interjected into<span></span> these discussions before. Still, I have continued to</div>
2992<div>make solid progress forward and hold the past/present/future in m<span></span>y eyes at one time without any reservation.</div>
2993<div>You find our ‘group hug” a saccharine exercise. This may be just <span></span>that you find yourself in the company of sentient</div>
2994<div>women who have a well developed code for survival which includes <span></span>moments of real tenderness beyond the “suck it</div>
2995<div>up and move on” mantra that would crush all honest excavation and<span></span> removal of accumulated toxic messages of</div>
2996<div>repression. Perhaps you are male-”on the receiving end of a few r<span></span>elationships with women who could have taught …”</div>
2997<div>and this dialogue is especially foreign.</div>
2998<div>Any way, I agree the guy was a monster. I do not agree that you are “taking the moral high ground”. You seem to be a</div>
2999<div>bit incapable depth of thought if anything. I do agree that you can not make sense of insanity or a crazy person. But I</div>
3000<div>do not think that GPD was insane or crazy he was just a sly twist<span></span>ed narcissitic sociopath. You talk about finding</div>
3001<div>better people to connect with, I agree 100% there; for my part my<span></span> life is rich and full of real people that I am all the</div>
3002<div>more thankful for having seen what I have.</div>
3003<div>Just to be sure you understand. I DO NOT EXCUSE THE LIES, ABUSE, RAPE the list goes on and on. His actions</div>
3004<div>dirtied his claims of love. I burned all his love letters long ag<span></span>o with his “valentines” cards.</div>
3005<div>I hope you can listen to what I say next because it is a totally different topic.</div>
3006<div>MY Love is another story all together. Because it comes from ME. <span></span>I am not a liar a cheat. I am a real person. I</div>
3007<div>celebrate my love of life, truth and others who seek it and stand<span></span> against the horrors of hell and extreme wealth and</div>
3008<div>power to fight for it.</div>
3009<div>As far as I am concerned our Valentines wishes to each other affi<span></span>rm the beauty of life. Something that women who</div>
3010<div>have been brutalized cherish all the more because of the horrors <span></span>we have seen.</div>
3011<div>Peace unbeliever-(now maybe at least you can “move on”)</div>
3012<div>HE</div>
3013<div>16 02 2007</div>
3014<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(01:56:47)</span> :</span></div>
3015<div>It is truly a sad world when some people do not even have any con<span></span>sideration at all of other people’s feeling. We are</div>
3016<div>dealing this experience with Daniel in different ways. If someone<span></span> can’t understand that, who cares! Besides HE, you</div>
3017</div>
3018<p> </p>
3019</div>
3020<div>
3021<div>
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3023<div>64 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3024<div>are entitled to express your feelings however you want to do it….Valentines day or not. As far as I know HE, you are</div>
3025<div>not trying to offend anyone. You were just being honest to yourself. It’s your feeling. If this is a way for you to heal</div>
3026<div>the wound……just pour it out. Keep on talking and sharing. I am su<span></span>re there are people learning from following this</div>
3027<div>story. it is not a bad thing. I am here to listen as well.</div>
3028<div>Darn, if only my English is better, I will share more on this blo<span></span>g.</div>
3029<div>Sometimes the word just don’t come out right.lol. But whatever. I<span></span> am sure people who shares the same feeling with</div>
3030<div>me or who are open minded can understand me. And for the “others”<span></span> that don’t want to understand, I don’t give a f-!</div>
3031<div>Mahalo,</div>
3032<div>Bernadette</div>
3033<div>PS.</div>
3034<div>“As far as I know, the only dirty thing on Valentines day is when you pretend to love someone and cheating at the</div>
3035<div>same time. Oh wait, maybe this is the right word….the only thing <span></span>dirty on Valentines day is when you said to the</div>
3036<div>person “I love you and you are the only one for me and turn around and say it to another person… just to turn around</div>
3037<div>again and say the same thing to again another person”…..etc. Isn’<span></span>t that the dirtiest game for a man and woman to do</div>
3038<div>on Valentines day. I think it is pretty disgusting. And S-! It’s <span></span>like someone is shooting a gun in your heart not only</div>
3039<div>once or twice or three times but over and over and over again! Da<span></span>rn. Though it is a little late, I learned the truth and</div>
3040<div>thank God I am still alive!</div>
3041<div>17 02 2007</div>
3042<div>fruittbatt<span> <span>(20:14:12)</span> :</span></div>
3043<div>The exchange between HE and Unbeliever above parallels some of the discussions on the previous Thai Visa forum</div>
3044<div>on this topic. It seems we are looking at two distinct world view<span></span>s here. As I see it, HE does not want to “move on” in</div>
3045<div>the sense of learning about dirt, vacuuming up the past dirt, and<span></span> resolving never to get a dirty house again. HE’s</div>
3046<div>world view is much more complex than just accepting conventional <span></span>notions of what constitutes “psychological</div>
3047<div>hygiene”. She recognizes the intrinsic “messiness” and complexity<span></span> of life. She understands a lot about love and</div>
3048<div>compassion. She knows from bitter experience that even the worst <span></span>monster is often a pathetic, broken, sick, human</div>
3049<div>being hiding under violent and destructive masquerades. She knows<span></span> that the meagre moments and shreds of love</div>
3050<div>given by the monster are still “love” in some form, just as the l<span></span>ove of each of us is imperfect. She cherishes the</div>
3051<div>opportunity she had to give love, even to someone we all condemn <span></span>as “unworthy”.</div>
3052<div>These are my thoughts, and I am projecting them a bit to try to u<span></span>nderstand the big, generous views of HE, a woman</div>
3053<div>whose brave voice is my friend and an inspiration.</div>
3054<div>Unbeliever also makes some valid points, in my opinion. There is <span></span>no denying that GPD WAS a monster - a Pol Pot,</div>
3055<div>violator of women’s hearts, wanton torturer, unable to see others<span></span> as people but rather as objects of his gratification.</div>
3056<div>Unbeliever “believes” in moving on as a solution, and there is me<span></span>rit in the Buddhist precept of living in the moment.</div>
3057<div>But what is the “now”/the moment? It is the sum total (and then s<span></span>ome) of all that has gone before, as well as the</div>
3058<div>womb of what will occur. HE has reached out to connect generously with all who have been affected by GPD’s death.</div>
3059<div>Unbeliever, your view wants “closure”, “finality”, and end to suf<span></span>fering and discussion of the past. I am reluctant to</div>
3060<div>say this, but maybe yours is a male view of the world, one which <span></span>believes in rationality, authority, finality, certainty,</div>
3061<div>facts. I cannot see life as being so simple. In my view, life is <span></span>a messy, circular, often revised and revisited process. To</div>
3062<div>me, it is through this complexity, this learning in the light of <span></span>new insights and new experiences that we grow in</div>
3063<div>understanding and - sometimes- love.</div>
3064<div>19 02 2007</div>
3065<div>Namaste<span> <span>(00:35:02)</span> :</span></div>
3066<div>“I would love to kiss you,</div>
3067</div>
3068<p> </p>
3069</div>
3070<div>
3071<div>
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3073<div>65 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3074<div>the price of kissing is your life,</div>
3075<div>now my loving is running toward my life,</div>
3076<div>shouting, ‘What a bargain, let’s buy it’.</div>
3077<div>Friend, our closeness is this,</div>
3078<div>anywhere you put your foot</div>
3079<div>feel me and the firmness under you.</div>
3080<div>What is it with this love?</div>
3081<div>I see your world, and not you.</div>
3082<div>Out beyond ideas of wrong doing</div>
3083<div>and right doing, there is a field,</div>
3084<div>I will meet you there.</div>
3085<div>When the soul lies down in that grass</div>
3086<div>the world is too full to talk about…</div>
3087<div>ideas, language, even the phrase ‘each other’</div>
3088<div>doesn’t make any sense.</div>
3089<div>They try to say what you are,</div>
3090<div>spiritual or sexual?</div>
3091<div>They wonder about Solomon and all his wives.</div>
3092<div>In the body of the world they say there is a soul,</div>
3093<div>and you are that,</div>
3094<div>but we have ways within each other</div>
3095<div>that will never be said by anyone.</div>
3096<div>Listen, if you can stand to,</div>
3097<div>union with the Friend</div>
3098<div>means not being who you’ve been,</div>
3099<div>being instead silence,</div>
3100<div>a place, a view</div>
3101<div>where language is inside seeing.</div>
3102<div>Today, like every other day,</div>
3103<div>we wake up empty and frightened.</div>
3104<div>Don’t open the door to the study</div>
3105<div>and begin reading,</div>
3106<div>take down a musical instrument.</div>
3107<div>Let the beauty we love</div>
3108<div>be what we do.</div>
3109<div>There are hundreds of ways</div>
3110<div>to kneel</div>
3111<div>and kiss the ground.”</div>
3112<div>-Rumi</div>
3113<div>19 02 2007</div>
3114<div>Bernadette</div>
3115<p> </p>
3116<div>(11:13:07)<span> :</span></div>
3117<div>Time heals wound.</div>
3118<div>We cannot expect changes just like that.</div>
3119<div>It is a matter of time.</div>
3120<div>Everyone deals every emotion in different ways.</div>
3121<div>Because I am not you nor you are not me.</div>
3122<div>There are some that just likes to talk or to write about their fe<span></span>elings.</div>
3123<div>But there are some that likes to end life instead.</div>
3124</div>
3125<p> </p>
3126</div>
3127<div>
3128<div>
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3130<div>66 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3131<div>I’d rather talk or write even no one wants to listen.</div>
3132<div>Now that’s brave.</div>
3133<div>And as long as there is tomorrow,</div>
3134<div>There will be a brand new day.</div>
3135<div>And as that new days come along,</div>
3136<div>Life change, emotions change, people change.</div>
3137<div>It’s just a matter of time.</div>
3138<div>Bernadette</div>
3139<div>19 02 2007</div>
3140<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:27:24)</span> :</span></div>
3141<div>Beautiful words, Namaste and Bernadette, I love both these past t<span></span>wo comments thank you for the beauty this</div>
3142<div>morning.</div>
3143<div>HE, Fruitbatt, I often struggle with this saying but I do believe<span></span> it is true: Love is never wrong. I sometimes find</div>
3144<div>myself very close to being convinced that it is the action of lov<span></span>ing others, that is the whole point to love. Love</div>
3145<div>expended always comes back to us, even if from corners and quadra<span></span>nts we weren’t expecting.</div>
3146<div>Dance like no one is watching, sing like no one is listening and <span></span>love like you’ve never been hurt. Three simple</div>
3147<div>statements. So difficult to put into practice.</div>
3148<div>I honor those of you, HE expecially</div>
3149<div>who continue to love, past present and future despite the agony of it.</div>
3150<div>Sincerely,</div>
3151<div>Hazel.</div>
3152<div>19 02 2007</div>
3153<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(11:55:58)</span> :</span></div>
3154<div>I so appreciate this delightful pallet of modes of expression sha<span></span>red on this thread; it is thrilling to go from the extreme</div>
3155<div>poetry of it all to the gritty reality of a new cold grey day.</div>
3156<div>[It is a real pleasure and an honor to know you all and to corres<span></span>pond so freely]</div>
3157<div>I feel each of us sees views through this kaleidoscope that can h<span></span>elp the others.</div>
3158<div>Vanessa with beautiful mesmerizing eyes and a lost tender gaze</div>
3159<div>Felicia full of life and adoration</div>
3160<div>Angel Crane trampled, used, yet bravely now parenting</div>
3161<div>Jeana writing to me (?) asking to be believed in (?)</div>
3162<div>Geri wanting all that is HERS (!!) back</div>
3163<div>We, conversing here, were largely in the wind shadow of this rece<span></span>nt cataclysmic “end” of the Katrina like whirlwind</div>
3164<div>that was this man’s life.</div>
3165<div>Namaste on the one side sings of tenderness and the “place beyond<span></span> right doing and wrong doing” where our souls lie</div>
3166<div>down together. I know that place well and it is a safe restful tr<span></span>ansforming place.</div>
3167<div>Unbeliever speaks of facts and rages at our poetry.</div>
3168<div>Fruittbatt wisely articulates and adjudicates our philosophies.</div>
3169<div>Bernadette and Kari speak from the front lines of the reality of <span></span>life with GPD</div>
3170<div>I do hope to express the voices of our lost twins whose miscarria<span></span>ge I now see as a choice not to enter this world of</div>
3171</div>
3172<p> </p>
3173</div>
3174<div>
3175<div>
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3177<div>67 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3178<div>tears. Their middle names:Aloha-Love and Mae’mae-Truth. My aim in<span></span> writing all this is to stand for unconditional</div>
3179<div>love together with unconditional truth. GPD seemed to flee the id<span></span>ea of unconditional truth. I do not see one without</div>
3180<div>the other. To truly love, I think we must start with ourselves an<span></span>d be ruthlessly truthful even with the confusing</div>
3181<div>circular issues that never neatly resolve. If a certain puzzle ca<span></span>nnot be solved “if it is beyond the place of right doing</div>
3182<div>and wrong doing” then it is.</div>
3183<div>(This is the Fact of the world we live in. Even the rational worl<span></span>d of scientific analysis teaches us this. Light is neither</div>
3184<div>a simply a wave nor a particle it is both; mathematical models th<span></span>at describe light as a wave are correct yet incomplete</div>
3185<div>so to for particle theory. Science, at the leading edge, is ultim<span></span>ately driven by those with a hunger for the unknown to</div>
3186<div>break through the mysteries. There are no facts at the leading ed<span></span>ge of the known and the unknown yet this is where all</div>
3187<div>new facts are discovered. This process is not neat or tidy or lin<span></span>ear and often requires circling back again and again</div>
3188<div>with apparent diversions and regression but the breakthroughs yie<span></span>ld quantum leaps in progress, understanding and</div>
3189<div>new elegant solutions that are well worth the frustrations of the<span></span> determined .)</div>
3190<div>If there are things about GPD that were clearly destructive and d<span></span>ishonest then they need to be frankly repudiated. IF</div>
3191<div>there was love even great love in the midst of that then there ju<span></span>st was. One does not negate the other. To me, his</div>
3192<div>ability to love together with his conceit that there was no TRUTH<span></span> is the greatest tragedy of his life and can whipsaw</div>
3193<div>his “beloved”s into a state of perpetual vertigo. I have been to <span></span>that place and it is not safe. I have not “moved on”</div>
3194<div>because I hope to call out to those who may still be there.</div>
3195<div>Bernadette, I share your thankulness for each new day! Peace</div>
3196<div>24 02 2007</div>
3197<div>Lee<span> <span>(14:11:48)</span> :</span></div>
3198<div>Aloha,</div>
3199<div>Does anyone know how the estate hearings turned out on GPD? Are the kids going to be taken care of? Is Geri trying</div>
3200<div>to get her hands on what’s left of his estate?</div>
3201<div>25 02 2007</div>
3202<div>Namaste</div>
3203<p> </p>
3204<div>(23:11:40)<span> :</span></div>
3205<div>“In the middle of our life journey I found</div>
3206<div>myself in a dark wood. I had wandered</div>
3207<div>from the straight path. It isn’t easy to</div>
3208<div>talk about it: it was such a thick, wild,</div>
3209<div>and rough forest that when I think of it</div>
3210<div>my fear returns…I can’t offer any</div>
3211<div>good explanation for how I entered it. I</div>
3212<div>was so sleepy at that point that I strayed</div>
3213<div>from the right path.”</div>
3214<div>-Dante, Inferno, Canto I</div>
3215<div>“You ask my thoughts</div>
3216<div>through the long night?</div>
3217<div>I spent it listening</div>
3218<div>to the heavy rain</div>
3219<div>beating against the windows”</div>
3220<div>-Izumi Shikibu</div>
3221<div>“I stand</div>
3222<div>And suddenly understand</div>
3223<div>That you, Deep Night,</div>
3224<div>Surround me and play with me,</div>
3225<div>And I am stunned…</div>
3226</div>
3227<p> </p>
3228</div>
3229<div>
3230<div>
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3233<div>Your breath comes over me.</div>
3234<div>And from a vast, distant solemnity</div>
3235<div>Your smile enters me.”</div>
3236<div>-Rainer Maria Rilke, “The Vast Night”</div>
3237<div>“That sweet night: a secret.</div>
3238<div>Nobody saw me;</div>
3239<div>I did not see a thing.</div>
3240<div>No other light, no other guide</div>
3241<div>Than the one burning in my heart.”</div>
3242<div>-John of the Cross</div>
3243<div>“Between living and dreaming</div>
3244<div>There is something else.</div>
3245<div>Guess what it is.”</div>
3246<div>-Antonio Machado</div>
3247<div>27 02 2007</div>
3248<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(03:53:13)</span> :</span></div>
3249<div>Hi Lee,</div>
3250<div>The filings regarding the estate are a matter of public record. Y<span></span>ou may see them on line or go down to the court</div>
3251<div>house.</div>
3252<div>http://hoohiki2.courts.state.hi.us/jud/Hoohiki/main.htm</div>
3253<div>It is still in process. I think your question about Geri is a sti<span></span>cky one. On one hand certain assets of “his estate” may</div>
3254<div>not stand scrutiny specifically with regard to specific instances<span></span> of fraud. I do not want any part of those battles and I</div>
3255<div>have said previously all I think I need to about that topic.</div>
3256<div>I do care very much about the children, ALL of them. I have done <span></span>what I could to encourage independent counsel for</div>
3257<div>Angie and the minor children. It is now in other hands.</div>
3258<div>Aloha,</div>
3259<div>HE</div>
3260<div>27 02 2007</div>
3261<div>Allison Hanes<span> <span>(13:48:33)</span> :</span></div>
3262<div>Hi there,</div>
3263<div>My name is Allison Hanes and I am a reporter with the National Po<span></span>st, a national daily newspaper in Toronto, Canada.</div>
3264<div>I recently started looking into the imprisonment of Margaret Cran<span></span>e and the murder of Daniel Dubie and have quickly</div>
3265<div>realized there is much more to it than initially meets the eye.</div>
3266<div>From what I can tell, media coverage of the case so far is just t<span></span>he tip of the ice burg.</div>
3267<div>I would like to probe deeper into who this man was, the extent of<span></span> his activities across the globe and the incredible</div>
3268<div>influence he has had over people. I am also interested in Margare<span></span>t or Jeanna Hart’s complicated relationship with him</div>
3269<div>and with the other women in his lives.</div>
3270<div>I would be interested in speaking with any of you who would be willing.</div>
3271<div>I realize that many who have posted on this blog are intimately a<span></span>cquainted with Daniel Dubie and that he left</div>
3272<div>indellible marks on many of your lives. From reading I see that m<span></span>any of you have very complex feelings for and</div>
3273<div>about him. I promise I am open minded and willing to listen if yo<span></span>u are willing to share. I can also assure some</div>
3274<div>measure of discretion.</div>
3275<div>In any case, thanks for hearing me out.</div>
3276<div>Allison</div>
3277<div>PS I can be reached at 416-386-2699 or</div>
3278<div>ahanes@nationalpost.com</div>
3279</div>
3280<p> </p>
3281</div>
3282<div>
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3286<div>27 02 2007</div>
3287<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
3288<div><span>(22:49:47)</span> :</div>
3289<div>FYI</div>
3290<div>http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=70<span></span>bb7ea1-5ada-4fdb-a9ee-7a0011d1fb7a&amp;k=0</div>
3291<div>Trial date set for Victoria woman in Thailand</div>
3292<div>Charged in shooting death of common-law husband</div>
3293<div>Louise Dickson, Times Colonist</div>
3294<div>Published: Sunday, February 25, 2007</div>
3295<div>Margaret Crane, a Victoria woman arrested in connection with the <span></span>July 2, 2006, shooting death of Daniel George</div>
3296<div>Dubie, will be tried in a Thai court in January 2008.</div>
3297<div>“At least we have a court date,” Margaret Crane’s oldest daughter<span></span>, said Angel Crane. “I’ve been told she has two</div>
3298<div>hours to plead her case.”</div>
3299<div>Although she never married or lived with him, Margaret, 48, had s<span></span>ix children by Dubie, a cult-like figure who has</div>
3300<div>been compared with Charles Manson and Jim Jones in various media <span></span>and websites, including the Honolulu Star</div>
3301<div>Bulletin.</div>
3302<div>Angel Crane and one of her five siblings will appear as witnesses at the trial in Chiang Mai next year. Margaret</div>
3303<div>Crane, who has been officially charged with pre-meditated murder,<span></span> will plead self-defence.</div>
3304<div>Crane sends her mother packages with chocolates and photographs o<span></span>f the children. Margaret sends handmade cards</div>
3305<div>and crafts. Last month, Crane received a Valentine handkerchief f<span></span>rom her mother.</div>
3306<div>“Dearest Angel Valentine, Our Hearts Are Eternally Joined. I love<span></span> you,” Margaret embroidered on the hankie.</div>
3307<div>From the day Margaret was arrested, Crane has tried to keep her f<span></span>amily together. Two days after the shooting, a</div>
3308<div>family friend brought Margaret’s five youngest children, three gi<span></span>rls and two boys, aged five to 15 years, to Victoria.</div>
3309<div>The children were initially placed in a foster home. In August, C<span></span>rane won custody of her brothers and sisters.</div>
3310<div>Six months later, the plucky 23-year-old said looking after five <span></span>children gets a little easier every day.</div>
3311<div>The Ministry for Children and Families gives Crane a certain amou<span></span>nt of money per child and pays health premiums</div>
3312<div>for the children. She is able to rent a spacious house with assis<span></span>tance from B.C. Housing.</div>
3313<div>Every second week, Crane meets with a family care development wor<span></span>ker.</div>
3314<div>Crane has also been offered six days of respite care a month. On <span></span>respite days, the children return to their original</div>
3315<div>foster home to give her a break.</div>
3316<div>She’ll be back in court on March 1 to assess how well the first s<span></span>ix months have gone.</div>
3317<div>“We want that to continue for another six-month order, then try a<span></span>nd make the custody arrangement more permanent,”</div>
3318<div>Crane said.</div>
3319<div>Christmas was joyous, but also stressful for Crane, who played Sa<span></span>nta Claus for the first time.</div>
3320<div>“I had to remember to bring in the reindeer food before morning,”<span></span> she laughed.</div>
3321<div>The children received presents from parents and teachers at the s<span></span>chool, a chiropractor’s office and from Saanich</div>
3322<div>police, who have been incredibly supportive, Crane said.</div>
3323<div>“There was cheer and happiness and giving,” she said. “When I nee<span></span>d help, someone just sort of pops up</div>
3324</div>
3325<p> </p>
3326</div>
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3331<div>1 03 2007</div>
3332<div>Bernadette</div>
3333<div><span>(12:09:21)</span> :</div>
3334<div>Hi HE, thank you for sharing these information to all.</div>
3335<div>To Angel Crane and other children, I am glad to hear that they ar<span></span>e doing fine.</div>
3336<div>I admire Angel for keeping her family together. She is brave!</div>
3337<div>To Jeanna, I hope she win her case in Thailand and serve her crim<span></span>e in Canada instead for the sake of her children.</div>
3338<div>Bernadette</div>
3339<div>1 03 2007</div>
3340<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(12:12:19)</span> :</span></div>
3341<div>Dear Hawaiin Eyes, Bernadette, Fruitbat, Gerry, Angel Crane and All,</div>
3342<div>I’ve been in contact with Allison Hanes of the National Post rega<span></span>rding the Crane/Dubie case. She has indicated a</div>
3343<div>desire to bring together the stories of those of you who have had<span></span> dealings with GPD.</div>
3344<div>I encourage you to contact her, if for nothing else just to find out how important your stories are to the general public.</div>
3345<div>I am very passionate about raising awareness around issues of con<span></span>trol and opression especially with regards to cultic</div>
3346<div>activities.</div>
3347<div>I am going to give Allison a call as soon as my phone is juiced u<span></span>p.</div>
3348<div>Much affection,</div>
3349<div>Hazel.</div>
3350<div>1 03 2007</div>
3351<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(14:23:33)</span> :</span></div>
3352<div>Thank you H.E for sharing that article. It is so touching the lov<span></span>e of mothers and daughters. I am so amazed by Angel</div>
3353<div>Crane. She is such a beautiful person. And for once I get to be really touched and impressed by the actions taken by</div>
3354<div>the ministery of Children and Families. I know how over burdend t<span></span>he ministries are all across Canada, so kudo’s to</div>
3355<div>them for doing so well by the Crane children.</div>
3356<div>4 03 2007</div>
3357<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(17:00:08)</span> :</span></div>
3358<div>Dear Namaste,</div>
3359<div>Are you willing to share anything about your identity?</div>
3360<div>The passages you have shared are wonderful and speak to a great depth of wisdom and understanding.</div>
3361<div>I saw GPD exhibit a remarkable ability to intuit, synthesize and <span></span>recreate previous writers work to suit various</div>
3362<div>situations with breath taking perception. In his case, I grieve t<span></span>hat he may not have integrated these extraordinary</div>
3363<div>philosophies into his own soul but somehow borrowed them like a t<span></span>ype of costume to put on to mesmerize me and</div>
3364<div>others. I am sorry to present such an analytical view but that is<span></span> one of my greatest fears about him. I will not presume</div>
3365<div>to know but I am of course saddened that his life failed to show <span></span>actions to match the beauty of much of his words and</div>
3366<div>letters.</div>
3367</div>
3368<p> </p>
3369</div>
3370<div>
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3374<div>Still Namaste, I wonder if you are Sarada and were a valued teach<span></span>er to him. Or if you are Felicia and you have</div>
3375<div>reached a wonderful level of wisdom despite your young age and tragic losses.</div>
3376<div>Whether or not you choose to share more of your identity, please <span></span>do know that I am very grateful for your voice here</div>
3377<div>and that I think that there are times that words fail us, intelle<span></span>cts are powerless and only love can be heard.</div>
3378<div>HE</div>
3379<div>5 03 2007</div>
3380<div>Namaste<span> <span>(23:00:30)</span> :</span></div>
3381<div>Dear hawaiianeyes,</div>
3382<div>I care not to pose the question “who am I?” There is an ultimate <span></span>grace in ‘not knowing’. Suffice to say that the</div>
3383<div>grievous fallout of this unfortunate event begs a generous degree of ‘mindfulness’…</div>
3384<div>Goodness</div>
3385<div>The highest goodness is like water.</div>
3386<div>Water benefits all things and does not compete.</div>
3387<div>It stays in the lowly places which others despise.</div>
3388<div>Therefore it is near The Eternal</div>
3389<div>-Tao Te Ching</div>
3390<div>7 03 2007</div>
3391<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:31:10)</span> :</span></div>
3392<div>Namaste, whoever you are I absolutely love your postings. Thank you!</div>
3393<div>7 03 2007</div>
3394<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:36:39)</span> :</span></div>
3395<div>I’ve been in contact with Allison from the National Post, i am ha<span></span>ppy to report she has been given an extension on her</div>
3396<div>deadline, what this means is her investigation is valued by the p<span></span>ost. The story that is so valuable my friends, is yours.</div>
3397<div>You are all so important, I hope you all know that.</div>
3398<div>And I wish you all nothing but a cornucopia of goodness.</div>
3399<div>7 03 2007</div>
3400<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(14:17:06)</span> :</span></div>
3401<div>I am willing to share my story if it will help Jeanna. I maybe no<span></span>t have alot to share since Daniel isolate me from</div>
3402<div>everything. I do believe from discovering everything about Daniel<span></span> through this page that my case was different from</div>
3403<div>every women Daniel got involved with. Like I said I have no knowl<span></span>edge about the other women. I know Daniel</div>
3404<div>Dubie from the person he protrayed….a sweet, romantic, thoughtful<span></span>, great dad, has a heart for people in need, love</div>
3405<div>kids, intelligent, dedicated to his job and maybe wealthy but dow<span></span>n to earth and very simple guy.</div>
3406<div>I thought…..he was this person.</div>
3407<div>I believe…..in him and everything he said.</div>
3408<div>I fell in love…..was in love.</div>
3409<div>But I felt so betrayed….</div>
3410<div>And he made me feel like stupid….</div>
3411<div>Some kind of a doormat…..</div>
3412</div>
3413<p> </p>
3414</div>
3415<div>
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3419<div>He used me….</div>
3420<div>Fooled me…..</div>
3421<div>HURT ME!</div>
3422<div>Bernadette</div>
3423<div>8 03 2007</div>
3424<div>Namaste</div>
3425<div><span>(23:09:32)</span> :</div>
3426<div>Beware the voice of ‘good intentions’!</div>
3427<div>Unresolved pain begets more pain.</div>
3428<div>Above all else, first ‘do no harm’…</div>
3429<div>9 03 2007</div>
3430<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(08:35:58)</span> :</span></div>
3431<div>Namaste,</div>
3432<div>What do you mean by beware the voice of good intentions?</div>
3433<div>Here’s one I like got it from Yeu Man survivor contender:</div>
3434<div>Love Many</div>
3435<div>Trust Few</div>
3436<div>Harm None</div>
3437<div>9 03 2007</div>
3438<div>hazel8500</div>
3439<p> </p>
3440<div>(08:42:48)<span> :</span></div>
3441<div>Bernadette, I admire your willingness to tell your story on behal<span></span>f of Jeanna, but in my honest opinion, the only reason</div>
3442<div>to do so is for you, yourself.</div>
3443<div>Its not an easy decision, It’s not one I am ready to make for mys<span></span>elf yet. I mean bits and pieces here and there but I</div>
3444<div>have yet to sit down and tell all myself. It is not easy. Plus I <span></span>find the emotions come back really strongly. So in the</div>
3445<div>end if you do this, you need to make sure its the right thing for<span></span> you personally to do.</div>
3446<div>sincerely,</div>
3447<div>Hazel.</div>
3448<div>9 03 2007</div>
3449<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(10:52:06)</span> :</span></div>
3450<div>Hi Bernadette,</div>
3451<div>Thank you for sharing your synopsis. I find it “right on”. I think that you do know what other women went through.</div>
3452<div>At least it reads exactly like what he constructed for me to beli<span></span>eve AND I beleived it! So now we victims are left with</div>
3453<div>PAIN -not a little pain but a horrible traumatic pain. For me he <span></span>was down right physically and emotoinally abusive</div>
3454<div>and cruel and then flipped back to the wonderful fellow….</div>
3455<div>So our shadowy wise owl says:</div>
3456<div>Unresolved pain begets more pain.</div>
3457<div>I guess I could interpret that as a warning not to reflexively at<span></span>tack out of our our pain. I think that wisdom is called for</div>
3458<div>But I do not feel that passiveness will bring healing. I think th<span></span>at it is a “dark forest” we find ourselves in. I do believe</div>
3459<div>in healing. I think it requires a certain amount of dedication to<span></span> heal a willingness to endure the pain that may</div>
3460</div>
3461<p> </p>
3462</div>
3463<div>
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3467<div>require-such as facing the TRUTH about what happened to us and his LIES. In the end if that causes some harm to</div>
3468<div>our fantasy or to others who participated in that so be it. I wou<span></span>ld not avoid that conflict.</div>
3469<div>I have made a lot of progress but I am still troubled by reliving<span></span> again and again out of the blue, certain particulalry</div>
3470<div>cruel things he did. I have benefitted from professionals and I f<span></span>or the most part perfectly functional and at peace but I</div>
3471<div>want to be rid of all of these thorns -I am now trying something <span></span>new-EMDR.</div>
3472<div>here’s a link:</div>
3473<div>http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2001/10/04/emdr/print.html</div>
3474<div>here’s an excerpt from the link:</div>
3475<div>“Researchers believe that an unhealed traumatic memory is primari<span></span>ly stored in the right side of the brain.</div>
3476<div>Additionally, research shows that when recalling severe trauma, t<span></span>he left side of the brain — which primarily controls</div>
3477<div>verbal skills, logic, and optimism — essentially shuts down. Ther<span></span>efore, the victim of trauma often is unable to process</div>
3478<div>memories and get them out of their head — instead, they relive mo<span></span>ments over and over in their thoughts. EMDR</div>
3479<div>triggers voluntary eye movements, which some researchers believe <span></span>results in “accelerated information processing” by</div>
3480<div>activating both brain hemispheres, says Bergmann. (There are a nu<span></span>mber of variations on EMDR therapy — some</div>
3481<div>EMDR clinicians use a point of light instead of their fingers, ot<span></span>hers ask their clients to listen to sounds through a</div>
3482<div>headset, others tap on their client’s palm. All are designed to s<span></span>timulate both the left and right sides of the brain.)”</div>
3483<div>I wish all of us who were run over by this guy lasting and profound healing.</div>
3484<div>Aloha,</div>
3485<div>HE</div>
3486<div>9 03 2007</div>
3487<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(11:06:12)</span> :</span></div>
3488<div>I understand how you feel Hazel. I just realised that talking abo<span></span>ut Daniel was not easy at all. Even when I say I am</div>
3489<div>fine now, I know I could never talk about him without anger in my<span></span> heart. I know I said it is just a matter of time and I</div>
3490<div>will be fine. I guess I am not really in that pace yet.</div>
3491<div>I have no intention to harm anyone. There is saying “The truth wi<span></span>ll set you free”. I was freed from all the lies and pain</div>
3492<div>Daniel caused me. Although it was too late, at least I know now t<span></span>he truth.</div>
3493<div>I only know Jeanna from the character she portrayed. I am angry a<span></span>t her for her role of playing with my heart and my</div>
3494<div>emotions. The only reason I want to help (if I could) is because <span></span>of her children. They are innocent and victims as well.</div>
3495<div>I just want Jeanna to pay her crime in Canada and not by a firing<span></span> squad in Thailand. At least if she goes to jaiI in</div>
3496<div>Canada, the kids can come visit her. I don’t think if they kill J<span></span>eanna that it would help the children’s emotions. Daniel</div>
3497<div>was not an angel. He died because he was an evil man. I am not sa<span></span>ying to kill is ok. I don’t think it is right to kill. I</div>
3498<div>am not justifying Jeanna’s action. I really wish Daniel didn’t di<span></span>e. I just want Jeanna to pay her crime not by death.</div>
3499<div>Even if she have to pay her crime in jail in Canada until her las<span></span>t breath, that’s ok. At least the kids can come visit her</div>
3500<div>and she can talk to them and maybe enlighten her kids heart as to<span></span> what happened. So the children grow up with</div>
3501<div>understanding and without hatred in their heart. Unless of course<span></span> Jeanna was a bad mother to her children. That is all!</div>
3502<div>I just want an exemption in her case for the sake of their childr<span></span>en.</div>
3503<div>This is just my opinion.</div>
3504<div>Bernadette</div>
3505<div>9 03 2007</div>
3506<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:16:19)</span> :</span></div>
3507<div>HE Thank you for that EMDR link, It looks really interesting.</div>
3508<div>Hi Bernadette, I feel the same way about Jeanna/Margaret I would <span></span>like to see her come back to Canada to serve her</div>
3509</div>
3510<p> </p>
3511</div>
3512<div>
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3516<div>sentence. And yes my opinion also comes down to what I hope is be<span></span>st for the kids involved, adult and otherwise.</div>
3517<div>Your healing is just as important.</div>
3518<div>take care.</div>
3519<div>10 03 2007</div>
3520<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
3521<div><span>(01:06:40)</span> :</div>
3522<div>I am not impressed by Allison Hanes. Somehow she was able to find<span></span> contact information for me. She worked hard to</div>
3523<div>win my confidence and I shared a good deal that was difficult to go through. In the end she is not going to report this</div>
3524<div>aspect of the story. I feel tricked and angry. Please be careful.</div>
3525<div>10 03 2007</div>
3526<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(01:27:22)</span> :</span></div>
3527<div>Hawaiianeyes, which aspect of the story? The other women? Other children?</div>
3528<div>The article comes out Saturday (tomorrow) in the National Post.</div>
3529<div>I’m quite nervous.</div>
3530<div>10 03 2007</div>
3531<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(10:11:04)</span> :</span></div>
3532<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
3533<div>I have read the story. I had been informed that the following wou<span></span>ld be a part of the story:</div>
3534<div>********************</div>
3535<div>Ms. Tate was not the only seemingly wise and intelligent woman in<span></span>explicably blindsided by Mr. Dubie’s charms</div>
3536<div>against her better judgement.</div>
3537<div>A woman in Hawaii, who wants to remain anonymous, described how i<span></span>n the 1990s she was introduced to Mr. Dubie</div>
3538<div>by a respected member of the community.</div>
3539<div>He constructed a ruse of a proposed business collaboration and in<span></span>vited her for a visit. While at his home he forcibly</div>
3540<div>raped her, physically assaulted her and threatened her with more <span></span>violence if “you don’t stop crying”.</div>
3541<div>The woman went to the emergency room, but refused to reveal the i<span></span>dentity of her attacker either out of shock and</div>
3542<div>deference for his status.</div>
3543<div>Afterwards a penitent Mr. Dubie repeatedly called her and begged her forgiveness for having gotten “carried away”.</div>
3544<div>“He leveraged mercy to get into my life further and do even more <span></span>damage,” she told the National Post. “He said he</div>
3545<div>wanted marriage and a family and the whole nine yards.”</div>
3546<div>The woman has testified on behalf of others in Hawaii who success<span></span>fully obtained restraining orders against Mr.</div>
3547<div>Dubie.</div>
3548<div>“I was the bad cop,” she said. And yet still he kept writing and <span></span>phoning — his last call coming just a month before his</div>
3549<div>death.</div>
3550<div>“He was an absolutely fixated upon the need to keep a certain num<span></span>ber of women around him and keep them separate</div>
3551<div>and have them available 24/7,” she said. “This was a man whose de<span></span>ception and victimization of a woman goes to the</div>
3552<div>level of an extreme obsession to possess and retain.”</div>
3553</div>
3554<p> </p>
3555</div>
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3560<div>******************</div>
3561<div>Beyond this breech of trust and waste of time, I do not find the <span></span>flavor of the piece to show the horrific depth of this</div>
3562<div>man. He is betrayed as a “fraudster” with followers “not as stron<span></span>g” as him. I do not think it has to do with personal</div>
3563<div>strength. The guy was a sociopath - an insidious monster. He did <span></span>not care about others as people. Monsters among us</div>
3564<div>are always shocking not because they are strong but because the rules we live by reflexively are foreign to them. He</div>
3565<div>was married to Geri. Geri was duped and sucked in 110% and thus u<span></span>sed in his cons of others. She does not impress</div>
3566<div>me as a weak bubble headed person. While in that marriage was a m<span></span>onstrous predator- not “seducer”. He was a</div>
3567<div>convicted FELON who did time a OCCC. I just don’t see the level o<span></span>f horror in this piece. He physically abused</div>
3568<div>people over sustained periods of time. Worse yet it was a calcula<span></span>ted sadistic integrated</div>
3569<div>physical/psychological/intellectual/spiritual abuse. WHo does tho<span></span>se things? How did he become this monster? How</div>
3570<div>was he able to move among us as well as he did? What other horror<span></span> was he guilty of? What about pornography and</div>
3571<div>human trafficking? What about drugs? What about Kristen? The reason he was so dangerous is as Angel is quoted in</div>
3572<div>the piece-he made his predation very personal and worked very har<span></span>d to get deep into a person’s head and then attempt</div>
3573<div>total domination and control. He used pregnancy and children to f<span></span>urther that aim. That is all so sick. I think that the</div>
3574<div>piece should have been a lot stronger.</div>
3575<div>HE</div>
3576<div>10 03 2007</div>
3577<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:31:33)</span> :</span></div>
3578<div>Hawaiineyes, I just read the piece, it is soooo good I hope you feel better when you read it. here’s a link.</div>
3579<div>http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=ff928867-ef<span></span>41-4881-85ed-a43dc2a224ff&amp;k=96340&amp;p=2</div>
3580<div>hugs</div>
3581<div>10 03 2007</div>
3582<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:44:31)</span> :</span></div>
3583<div>I wrote my comment before checking on comments. I see HE you are <span></span>no happier today.</div>
3584<div>I don’t think the scope of the horror this man visited on you and<span></span> the others can possibly be fit into a news article.</div>
3585<div>Mabey a series of articles, but not just one.</div>
3586<div>The thing I am really happy about is that this is the first Natio<span></span>nal coverage of this saga. THE FIRST! Other than the</div>
3587<div>Vancouver Sun, The Times Colonist is the the only other Canadian <span></span>publication I can find that has picked up the story,</div>
3588<div>and I expect thats because of the personal ties they have to Angel Crane, who works there from time to time. And</div>
3589<div>thank god for that.</div>
3590<div>The thing I am wondering about is the absolute lack of mention of<span></span> Geri?</div>
3591<div>10 03 2007</div>
3592<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:46:02)</span> :</span></div>
3593<div>I was really impressed with Angel’s comments in the article. She’<span></span>s one bright disillusioned young woman.</div>
3594<div>10 03 2007</div>
3595<div>hazel8500</div>
3596<p> </p>
3597<div>(11:48:17)<span> :</span></div>
3598<div>PS. I changed the photo of Margaret in this thread. I think it is<span></span> probably a better representation of her than the one that</div>
3599</div>
3600<p> </p>
3601</div>
3602<div>
3603<div>
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3605<div>76 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3606<div>came with the Vancouver Sun Article.</div>
3607<div>10 03 2007</div>
3608<div>theresa<span> <span>(15:41:11)</span> :</span></div>
3609<div>Is it true that Daniel had a girlfriend for many years with a you<span></span>ng first grade woman teacher by the name of Sandra</div>
3610<div>and I was told she and Daniel have a son that was just born this <span></span>recent December on Oahu? I believe she and Daniel</div>
3611<div>met at a make a wish foundation event. Who is this woman? Does Ge<span></span>ri know of their relationship?</div>
3612<div>11 03 2007</div>
3613<div>Namaste<span> <span>(19:39:21)</span> :</span></div>
3614<div>“We meet ourselves time and again in a thousand</div>
3615<div>disguises on the path of life.”</div>
3616<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
3617<div>“Only the living presence of the eternal images can lend</div>
3618<div>the human psyche a dignity which makes it morally possible</div>
3619<div>for a person to stand by his own soul, and be convinced</div>
3620<div>that it is worth his while to persevere with it. Only then</div>
3621<div>will he realize that the conflict is in him and that the discord</div>
3622<div>and the tribulation are riches which should not be squandered</div>
3623<div>by attacking others.”</div>
3624<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
3625<div>11 03 2007</div>
3626<div>goneaway</div>
3627<p> </p>
3628<div>(20:24:13)<span> :</span></div>
3629<div>“I just want Jeanna to pay her crime not by death. Even if she ha<span></span>ve to pay her crime in jail in Canada until her last</div>
3630<div>breath, that’s ok. At least the kids can come visit her and she c<span></span>an talk to them and maybe enlighten her kids heart as to</div>
3631<div>what happened. So the children grow up with understanding and wit<span></span>hout hatred in their heart. Unless of course Jeanna</div>
3632<div>was a bad mother to her children. That is all! I just want an exe<span></span>mption in her case for the sake of their children. ”</div>
3633<div>I cared for her daughter while she recovered from being POISONED by her (Margaret).</div>
3634<div>I cared for her daughter while Margaret abandoned her.</div>
3635<div>Her own mother cared for the children she abandoned- one being An<span></span>gel.</div>
3636<div>I wish everyone would stop seeing her as a victim and see her for<span></span> what she is- a terrible woman who harms children..</div>
3637<div>plus all she was with Daniel.</div>
3638<div>11 03 2007</div>
3639<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(21:26:57)</span> :</span></div>
3640<div>Hello Goneaway its nice to “read” you again.</div>
3641<div>I know you’ve been through h3ll with this and have an upfront and center point of view. I agree there is a lot of</div>
3642<div>mythos surrounding GPD and Margaret. I hope the truth is uncovere<span></span>d sooner rather than later.</div>
3643<div>11 03 2007</div>
3644<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(21:31:38)</span> :</span></div>
3645<div>Hello Theresa, I am sorry I have no knowledge of this. I have hea<span></span>rd through this blog that there was a baby born</div>
3646</div>
3647<p> </p>
3648</div>
3649<div>
3650<div>
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3652<div>77 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3653<div>recently in Hawaii fathered by GPD, this could be the child you are speaking of.</div>
3654<div>11 03 2007</div>
3655<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(21:36:05)</span> :</span></div>
3656<div>Theresa if this newest baby was born just this past December then<span></span> there would have had to be a meeting between the</div>
3657<div>infants mother and GPD sometime in April 2006 only three months p<span></span>rior to GPD’s death. I doubt he was in Hawaii at</div>
3658<div>that time, so would this have taken place in Thailand?</div>
3659<div>I wonder if Pim is aware of this?</div>
3660<div>PS, if you scroll up through the messages, you can read about var<span></span>ious invitro fertilization procedures alleged to have</div>
3661<div>occurred in Oahu clinic. Wonder if that is a factor?</div>
3662<div>11 03 2007</div>
3663<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
3664<p> </p>
3665<div>(22:45:10)<span> :</span></div>
3666<div>Hi Hazel,</div>
3667<div>Daniel was here last April/May attending to matters in Hawaii and<span></span> his mother’s death in CA. He was here with Pim</div>
3668<div>but likely made his rounds. I do not think there was any in vitro<span></span> ever. That was just another cover story.</div>
3669<div>The names a birth dates of all the children are a matter of publi<span></span>c record in Hawaii but I do not think that should be</div>
3670<div>discussed on line. I think that privacy for those who seek it sho<span></span>uld be protected and respected.</div>
3671<div>I also observed child neglect on a worrisome level so I do not th<span></span>ink that Margaret should be glorified. I worry that</div>
3672<div>GPD put all his women into a baby race of sorts. He taunted me wi<span></span>th photos of Sylvie surrounded with her children.</div>
3673<div>Even so I think that Margaret deserves a chance at counseling and<span></span> rehabilitation. I am angry at her for her role in</div>
3674<div>enabling his schemes. She did not apologize for that in her lette<span></span>r to me. I would like her to apologize to all the women</div>
3675<div>that he abused and victimized for her role in it. I would be sati<span></span>sfied with real remorse. I do not see her as a victim. She</div>
3676<div>murdered him and she made clever moves after the fact. The gun ha<span></span>s never been recovered, she tossed it. So this is</div>
3677<div>not any black and white 2 hr TV movie with a tidy ending. I inter<span></span>pret the facts as aggravated manslaughter.</div>
3678<div>I wish that I could better convey the extremes of this man. It se<span></span>ems that most of his love targets were fairly well</div>
3679<div>protected from his extreme sadism. Pim, Bernadette, Geri seem onl<span></span>y to suffered neglect and fraud and to have</div>
3680<div>enjoyed sustained periods of his remarkable perceptive, intuitive<span></span>, soulful, fully-present company, together with his</div>
3681<div>great intellect and creative depth. It sounds though from what I <span></span>have read that others, Sarada, Craig Ingraham, Angel</div>
3682<div>Crane, myself and 2 others I know of were treated to that aspect <span></span>of him as well as the Mr. Hyde-</div>
3683<div>physically/emotionally/mentally tortured in calculated ways for s<span></span>ustained periods of time. With me he told me that I</div>
3684<div>was a warrior and acted like we were in some type of secret boot <span></span>camp. He professed great and eternal love and was</div>
3685<div>for the most remarkable friend I had ever had. But then he would <span></span>snap into all types of horrifying abuse, blame me, be</div>
3686<div>penitent and return to his calm loving self. We had to run 6-10 m<span></span>iles/day, he rarely slept more than 3 hr at a time and</div>
3687<div>was constantly on the move and on the phone. He had me drive him <span></span>all around and wait blocks away. I do not think</div>
3688<div>that it was all about his quest for paramours. I sincerely believ<span></span>e that he was obsessed with power and some type of</div>
3689<div>illegal underground operations. I met many of his business associ<span></span>ates and they were often shady types. He dealt with</div>
3690<div>large sums of cash.</div>
3691<div>Anyway, I hope that this story continues to come out and that pre<span></span>ssure is brought to bear on Geri and Margaret to dig</div>
3692<div>deep into phone records travel credit card use to put together an<span></span>d expose what this man was up to. I am worried about</div>
3693<div>the “fraudster of flower children” epithet that would trivialize <span></span>the potential horrific depths of this man and keep so</div>
3694<div>much he had worked hard to sweep under his “Prince of Dubai” magi<span></span>c carpet still hidden. I think that Margaret</div>
3695<div>should be offered extradition and immunity to fully reveal what s<span></span>he knows. His travel Asia/Central</div>
3696<div>America-Nicaragua Costa Rica/ Zurich/Amsterdam/Africa was freneti<span></span>c. What was he up to?</div>
3697<div>HE</div>
3698</div>
3699<p> </p>
3700</div>
3701<div>
3702<div>
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3704<div>78 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3705<div>11 03 2007</div>
3706<div>Bernadette</div>
3707<div><span>(23:28:34)</span> :</div>
3708<div>Goneaway, I don’t symphatize Jeanna at all! She maybe also a vict<span></span>im of Daniel’s spell but she is a killer and must pay</div>
3709<div>her crime. I am not saying for her to come back to Canada and go <span></span>shopping at the Mall. I just want her to not die in</div>
3710<div>Thailand but pay her crime in Canada “FOR THE SAKE OF HER CHILDREN”. …….As I quote from my previous</div>
3711<div>comment…..”UNLESS” of course she was a bad mother to her children<span></span>. I don’t know what you’ve been through with</div>
3712<div>these people. You have your own experience with them and I have m<span></span>ine. My care is only for the children.</div>
3713<div>Everyone is entitled to say their opinion. I am not here to shut <span></span>anyone off for whatever they want to say nor to judge.</div>
3714<div>Like everyone else here, I am also a victim of Jeanna and Daniel’<span></span>s lies.</div>
3715<div>Peace,</div>
3716<div>Bernadette</div>
3717<div>13 03 2007</div>
3718<div>goneaway<span> <span>(06:11:42)</span> :</span></div>
3719<div>I am peacefully saying, the woman is a threat to her children. Sh<span></span>e is a threat to society. She is a murderer and should</div>
3720<div>be convicted of that. She got away with attempted murder when Soc<span></span>ial Services and the Gov’t let her off the child</div>
3721<div>abuse charges when she tried to poison her daughter who was in my<span></span> care. They said “she has really good lawyers, we</div>
3722<div>can’t beat them”.</div>
3723<div>Justice would be the Gov’t providing for these babies with financ<span></span>ial and emotional aid and keeping their mother</div>
3724<div>behind bars. I think Jeannie should be behind bars, not killed by<span></span> firing squad. I think the Canadian Gov’t has paid for</div>
3725<div>and should continue paying for these children while the THAI Gov’t pays for Jeannie to be behind bars in the country</div>
3726<div>the crime was commited in.</div>
3727<div>AND DNA tests should be done for the rightful father to step forward (or outta the grave) and pay financially for</div>
3728<div>these kids. All the time I knew Jeannie she drove new vehicles an<span></span>d wore nice clothes but never worked for anyone but</div>
3729<div>Michael (Daniel Dubie)…. shouldn’t there be money to support the <span></span>kids?? I am positive she knows where some</div>
3730<div>money is and could be doing that too… instead of milking everyone<span></span> around her for it.</div>
3731<div>This whole thing is frustrating.</div>
3732<div>I have a question:</div>
3733<div>HOW MANY OF US LOOK LIKE KRISTEN MODAFFERI?</div>
3734<div>It sure was scary to hear the story (up to the time she went miss<span></span>ing) being so similar to mine- and when I saw her</div>
3735<div>photo it was like staring at myself! (save my hair was wavy curls<span></span>)</div>
3736<div>There is some major questions needing to be answered, and if Jean<span></span>nie had a heart she would tell. She doesn’t, and she</div>
3737<div>won’t. Sad.</div>
3738<div>13 03 2007</div>
3739<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:37:03)</span> :</span></div>
3740<div>Hi Goneaway, I just wanted to quickly say I see eye to eye with you on this. I also want Jeanna to come back to</div>
3741<div>Canada to serve her sentence. I fear that if she should die by firing squad in Thailand, her secrets will die too. I don’t</div>
3742<div>know if she will ever spill everything she knows or has done, but<span></span> i think Canada should really step up to the plate and</div>
3743<div>at least try.</div>
3744<div>With Angel in charge of her siblings, and with her head screwed o<span></span>n as well as it is in spite of everything she’s been</div>
3745<div>through, I believe (I hope) the children will be safe whether or <span></span>not Jeanna comes back or stays and dies in Thailand.</div>
3746</div>
3747<p> </p>
3748</div>
3749<div>
3750<div>
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3752<div>79 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3753<div>Goneaway, I am so pleased that you have found your way to this blog. the information you’ve supplied has really</div>
3754<div>given me personally a better understanding of the situation, and <span></span>I thank you for that from the bottom of my heart.</div>
3755<div>Thank you!</div>
3756<div>I hope to continue my crusade to heighten awareness of cultic abu<span></span>se in our society, and I hope you and everyone else</div>
3757<div>who’se been following this thread get your day in the sun and find freedom from what this man has done to all of you.</div>
3758<div>13 03 2007</div>
3759<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:47:52)</span> :</span></div>
3760<div>Also I wanted to touch base on something else Goneaway has asked,<span></span> How many of us look like Kristen Modaferri?</div>
3761<div>This is an excellent question. You may or may not be aware of the<span></span> research I’ve been doing into the missing women</div>
3762<div>in North America, Kristen included.</div>
3763<div>I have noticed a disturbing trend; the similarities between featu<span></span>res of the missing and murdered in BC, AB, SASK, it</div>
3764<div>is terrifying.</div>
3765<div>Now, the physical appearances of the missing and murdered I’ve be<span></span>en following do somewhat match Kristen’s</div>
3766<div>appearance, long dark hair, big smile, flashy eyes.</div>
3767<div>Kristen went missing from San Fran. San Fran seems to be a spot b<span></span>etween many of Dubie’s travels.</div>
3768<div>So we have a preponderance of dark haired beautiful young women going missing along the BC coast, The</div>
3769<div>Californian coast, and from Juarez Mexico boarder town to Texas.</div>
3770<div>many of the peasants murdered in Juarez came from other parts of <span></span>Mexico to work at the Maq’s big US conglomerate</div>
3771<div>factories.</div>
3772<div>So is there a possible connection between s.America, and USA and <span></span>Canadian missing? And where has Dubie</div>
3773<div>travelled?</div>
3774<div>Victoria BC across the prairies of Canada, San Francisco, Guatema<span></span>la, Nicaragua, Hawaii, Thailand….</div>
3775<div>Is it a coincidence that so many hot spots of missing people seem<span></span> to be where ever he has travelled? Coincidence?</div>
3776<div>13 03 2007</div>
3777<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:52:14)</span> :</span></div>
3778<div>Hawaiineyes, thank’s for this:</div>
3779<div>Daniel was here last April/May attending to matters in Hawaii and<span></span> his mother’s death in CA. He was here with Pim</div>
3780<div>but likely made his rounds. I do not think there was any in vitro<span></span> ever. That was just another cover story.</div>
3781<div>xxxxx</div>
3782<div>I may have something to add here…brb!</div>
3783<div>13 03 2007</div>
3784<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:57:38)</span> :</span></div>
3785<div>Okay, HE the timing is off.</div>
3786<div>But I found this sometime ago trying to determine if Daniel had a<span></span>ny relatives in politics as there are a number of</div>
3787<div>Dubie’s I’ve found in US and International politics. One being in<span></span> Geneva which happens to be a prime player in</div>
3788</div>
3789<p> </p>
3790</div>
3791<div>
3792<div>
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3794<div>80 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3795<div>fighting human trafficking globally.</div>
3796<div>Here is an article that I have to share with you and the readers <span></span>here…</div>
3797<div>http://7d.blogs.com/freyneland/2006/11/dubie_defends_h.html</div>
3798<div>On Saturday, Brian Dubie staunchly defended his 2005 in-session winter vacation. His brother Mike Dubie was just</div>
3799<div>wrapping up his tour in the Iraq war zone and asked if they could have a family get together.</div>
3800<div>“I took four days,” said Lt. Gov. Dubie, “and my regret is that m<span></span>y sons miss too much of family time.”</div>
3801<div>Brian and Mike Dubie?</div>
3802<div>Didn’t GPD use the name Michael as an alias?</div>
3803<div>Any comments from the gallery?</div>
3804<div>13 03 2007</div>
3805<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(12:33:01)</span> :</span></div>
3806<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
3807<div>I really don’t think there is anything in common but the name Dub<span></span>ie. GPD’s father was from CN not VT. There are</div>
3808<div>plenty of Dubies and Dubois from Quebec on down. There is also a famous Norman Dubie but I do not know of any</div>
3809<div>links at all. It may be a diversion to go down those roads.</div>
3810<div>Aloha,</div>
3811<div>HE</div>
3812<div>13 03 2007</div>
3813<div>hazel8500</div>
3814<p> </p>
3815<div>(13:44:20)<span> :</span></div>
3816<div>Thanks HE, that reflects my initial thoughts too. One of the reas<span></span>ons I didn’t mention this before. Dubie Dubet families</div>
3817<div>also have roots in Alberta i believe, but like you said its a com<span></span>mon name.</div>
3818<div>13 03 2007</div>
3819<div>goneaway<span> <span>(14:45:44)</span> :</span></div>
3820<div>“I am not saying for her to come back to Canada and go shopping a<span></span>t the Mall.”</div>
3821<div>I met Jeannie (margaret) while shopping in a mall….. ha</div>
3822<div>13 03 2007</div>
3823<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(18:49:15)</span> :</span></div>
3824<div>Hi Goneaway,</div>
3825<div>That is kind of creepy that you met Jeannie in a shopping mall. K<span></span>risten was last seen leaving a mall. She had a SF</div>
3826<div>Guardian opened with ads at home. I know that GPD (and Margaret h<span></span>andled interviewing these applicants) were</div>
3827<div>always advertising for helpers in natural food/spiritual enlightm<span></span>ent type newspapers. GPD bragged to me about</div>
3828<div>getting all kinds of fringe people to come out to Hawaii to work <span></span>on his Pupukea “ranch” for basically nothing. He</div>
3829<div>seemed to think it was all fair game. …</div>
3830<div>HE</div>
3831<div>13 03 2007</div>
3832</div>
3833<p> </p>
3834</div>
3835<div>
3836<div>
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3838<div>81 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3839<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(23:47:32)</span> :</span></div>
3840<div>Well, that is how I met Jeanna ….during her shopping spree at the<span></span> Expo. She told me that she works in the Film</div>
3841<div>Industry and that her boss (Daniel Dubie) was looking for a Nurse because he needs constant care as he was in a coma</div>
3842<div>for 3 months due to an accident while making film in Australia. O<span></span>h, she was pregnant at that time. She told me all</div>
3843<div>kinds of story about Daniel and she was even crying because she said that Daniel was her bestfriend for 25 years and</div>
3844<div>she really cares for him.</div>
3845<div>And the rest is history…</div>
3846<div>14 03 2007</div>
3847<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(02:10:56)</span> :</span></div>
3848<div>P.S.</div>
3849<div>When it comes to GPD’s modus operendi for predation/recruitment o<span></span>f new “love victims” I know about the “ad”</div>
3850<div>campaigns to attract folks to work at a spritual healing spa in H<span></span>awaii, blah blah. It was mentioned that he met and</div>
3851<div>started to woo “Sandra” above at a Make a Wish foundation fund ra<span></span>iser. HE also met and started his designs on me at</div>
3852<div>a big exclusive pricey fund raiser dinner. So he seems to have fo<span></span>llowed certain recipes.</div>
3853<div>Very worrisome to me is his wolf in sheep’s clothing approach hid<span></span>ing among the sheep. I was sickened when he gave</div>
3854<div>me a copy of his Millennium Peace Child tape because he was the p<span></span>rime camera man and comporting himself as a</div>
3855<div>great enlightened spirit guide for Peace Child International.</div>
3856<div>link:</div>
3857<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6w788jm41w</div>
3858<div>He considered himself invincible and his crimes against me he saw<span></span> as his perogative as he hid behind the monied</div>
3859<div>skirts of Geri and all the cache of UN related childrens’s charit<span></span>ies. He bragged to me that he was untouchable. I</div>
3860<div>beleived that for years but I finally went after him anyway. In the end he admitted his actions against me and made</div>
3861<div>various legal restitutions.</div>
3862<div>I have seen into the depths of darkness in his eyes and that horr<span></span>or will never leave me. I did not care and still do not</div>
3863<div>care what fancy disguises he concocted to hide in or behind. I do want as this Millenium videos ends with to “Stand in</div>
3864<div>the truth” which nauseated me when I first saw this as a spin on <span></span>Geri’s “Stand in the Power of Truth” big video.</div>
3865<div>I pray for the day that all these lies are finally exposed and the freedom that comes from real truth heals those of us</div>
3866<div>determined to find it.</div>
3867<div>I think that we on this thread have the collective information to<span></span> unravel the curtains of lies that still seem to linger. I</div>
3868<div>know of at least 5 folks with real actionable information that we<span></span>re so terrorized by GPD and Geri that they have not</div>
3869<div>been heard from again here. Your title “Goneaway” reminds me of t<span></span>hem although your experiences seem to date back</div>
3870<div>further. Aloha-HE</div>
3871<div>14 03 2007</div>
3872<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:54:01)</span> :</span></div>
3873<div>HE excellent video. Its so very hard to watch knowing that GPD was deeply involved and we know how corrupt he</div>
3874<div>was. The message used and propagated is such a good one, the film<span></span> itself was such a positive hopeful film. I can see</div>
3875<div>how trusting, young, hopeful people could easily be recruited in such a manner.</div>
3876<div>Bernadette, yourself and Goneaway you’ve hit on something very im<span></span>portant here.</div>
3877<div>Their methodology.</div>
3878<div>When con’s find something that works, they improve on them but th<span></span>ey don’t necessarily change them unless forced to</div>
3879<div>by some outside factor.</div>
3880</div>
3881<p> </p>
3882</div>
3883<div>
3884<div>
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3886<div>82 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3887<div>The mall ruse, the connection to Kristen’s last known whereabouts<span></span> and activities, and the plea for help. Its no</div>
3888<div>different than a serial killer using a ruse such as a broken leg <span></span>or puppy to lure their victims.</div>
3889<div>I wonder how many more connections you guys could discover if the<span></span>re were more victims of Dubie and</div>
3890<div>Jeanne/Margaret to speak out.</div>
3891<div>He’s dead now, it is okay to speak. He can not hurt you anymore, no more than what he’s already done. And there are</div>
3892<div>people who do understand and do believe in what you’ve been through.</div>
3893<div>I wish you all healing and happiness.</div>
3894<div>14 03 2007</div>
3895<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:58:41)</span> :</span></div>
3896<div>The very First Children’s Peace Award to Samantha Smith</div>
3897<div>The presentation of the first Children’s Peace Awards. Awards were given posthumously to Samantha Smith and John</div>
3898<div>Lennon by Patty Duke, Academy Award winning actress and then President of the Screen Actors Guild</div>
3899<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn7SY4_DtU0</div>
3900<div>14 03 2007</div>
3901<div>goneaway<span> <span>(20:20:41)</span> :</span></div>
3902<div>When I met her in the mall, I had just got my first paycheck afte<span></span>r moving to “the big city”. I had $$ signs in my eyes</div>
3903<div>and was totally happy-go-lucky that day. She used a story about having a production company and wanted me to be in</div>
3904<div>a commerical she was making for Pizza Hut. Thats how we got to kn<span></span>ow each other, but she saw me as a totally young</div>
3905<div>and impressionable naive little girl who she could hook into. She<span></span> was pregnant with her first son and used the fact that</div>
3906<div>I loved children to her advantage. She introduced me to “Michael”<span></span>, her brother- really Daniel- and wanted us to get</div>
3907<div>romanically involved. If I hadn’t been dating a guy who was reall<span></span>y serious about me, I might have fallen for it all. She</div>
3908<div>pushed and pushed Michael on me, but I was not interested. He see<span></span>med strange to me… and I will NEVER dis-trust</div>
3909<div>my instincts again!!!</div>
3910<div>But I want to stress that she used the production company to try <span></span>to lure me into things with her- she wanted me to be</div>
3911<div>in the commercial, then she tried to offer me a job– just really <span></span>thought I’d jump all over the film industry thing. Also,</div>
3912<div>trying to set me up with Michael (Daniel) was an objective. She r<span></span>ealized I love children and claimed to name the baby</div>
3913<div>(1st son) a name I chose (she asked me what I thought were nice n<span></span>ames and I gave one- I don’t think it really is his</div>
3914<div>name though) and left her 3rd daughter with me (she is the one cu<span></span>rrently 15 yrs old) (She abandoned the first 2, and</div>
3915<div>they were raised by family members) She really tried to hook me a<span></span>ny way she could.</div>
3916<div>I just wonder if Kristen was hooked by a friendly woman and a promise of a commerical spot or film industry job??</div>
3917<div>When the truth (whatever it really is) came out in my situation w<span></span>ith Jeannie, “The Children of God” cult was</div>
3918<div>associated with her in some way, but I forget how now- been too m<span></span>any years. Anyone have info about that?</div>
3919<div>Have any of you with any info about Jeannie/Maggie relayed the info to Dennis on findkristen.com? Any info might</div>
3920<div>help find out what happened to her.</div>
3921<div>15 03 2007</div>
3922<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(10:23:32)</span> :</span></div>
3923<div>Hi Goneaway,</div>
3924<div>This “production company” scam may have had deep and dark, very r<span></span>eal roots.</div>
3925<div>After the whole 9/11 FBI swirl of activity around GPD, I was told that he did have a criminal history and had been</div>
3926</div>
3927<p> </p>
3928</div>
3929<div>
3930<div>
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3932<div>83 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3933<div>involved in film pornography but that he was not a jihadist and w<span></span>as not a “Prince of Dubai” but was a local thug born</div>
3934<div>here. I don’t know anything more about his involvement in film po<span></span>rnography but agent Dan McGaughlin made a</div>
3935<div>specific point of telling me that in his questioning of GPD (toge<span></span>ther with Geri!) that GPD said “I never loved her. I</div>
3936<div>just used her for sex”. The FBI agent insisted that I file a TRO against him and accept no further contact at all. He</div>
3937<div>also insisted that I submit police reports and medical records re<span></span>lating to the initial forcible rape.</div>
3938<div>I have written to Dennis just now:</div>
3939<div>“Hi Dennis, Please read todays last posting on:</div>
3940<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-mu<span></span>rder-charge-in-thailand/<span> It would be good if</span></div>
3941<div>you could respond on that thread to the writer of the mall commen<span></span>t.”</div>
3942<div>I met him directly without any involvement of Margaret. I remembe<span></span>r his long lingering dark stares across the table at</div>
3943<div>that fundraiser. I was intriged. That night, Ray Kinney a respected member of a larger circle of my aquaintances took</div>
3944<div>the time to make a formal introduction of him to me as “Prince of<span></span> Dubai”. No one at the table seemed to question this.</div>
3945<div>I accepted his legitimacy at the words of others. I wish that he <span></span>had been introduced as a “convicted felon who did time</div>
3946<div>at OCCC and has a rap sheet of fraud and abuse of others trust a mile long”……He was also often in SF so he could</div>
3947<div>have picked up Kristen himself. Knowing his MO, he never liked to<span></span> go out alone and always wanted some type of</div>
3948<div>wingman, so maybe it was he and Onuma prowling the mall stopping <span></span>in for coffee and chatting Kristen up…. Who</div>
3949<div>knows? The point is that there is plenty of smoke around this guy and I think we should keep at this.</div>
3950<div>HE</div>
3951<div>16 03 2007</div>
3952<div>goneaway<span> <span>(09:03:39)</span> :</span></div>
3953<div>I wrote Dennis Mahon several weeks ago- told him what I knew. I h<span></span>oped it might help somehow.</div>
3954<div>Her story is sad. As a parent it would be so hard to not know what happened to my child.</div>
3955<div>I would hope if Maggie knew anything she would tell. Could she appeal to the thai gov’t for some mercy if she could</div>
3956<div>give any info on these things?? Or would she set herself up for more charges in other countries if she did? At least if</div>
3957<div>she admitted crimes inthe USA and Canada she could get life in pr<span></span>ision here (in north america) rather than face what</div>
3958<div>could happen there!!</div>
3959<div>16 03 2007</div>
3960<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:40:58)</span> :</span></div>
3961<div>I also contacted Mahon through his board, left a link here and le<span></span>t him know about the connections we’ve found. I</div>
3962<div>havn’t heard back, but his board looked pretty slow. I’m not even<span></span> sure if I still have the address to it.</div>
3963<div>16 03 2007</div>
3964<div>theresa<span> <span>(19:22:21)</span> :</span></div>
3965<div>To: Hawaiian Eyes</div>
3966<div>Are you aware or anyone of you out there that Daniel or George Dubie ’s longtime girlfriend on Oahu gave birth to</div>
3967<div>Daniel’s last son on Oahu this past December? I met the both of t<span></span>hem Sandra and George Dubie at a make a wish</div>
3968<div>event? I believe they have been a couple for many years? She is a first grade teacher…. How does she feel about this?</div>
3969<div>I read about their infant in court documents. Does this make it G<span></span>eorge’s 15th child…How does Geri feel about this?</div>
3970<div>Is this true?</div>
3971<div>16 03 2007</div>
3972<div>t.c.<span> <span>(19:23:22)</span> :</span></div>
3973<div>To: Hawaiian Eyes</div>
3974</div>
3975<p> </p>
3976</div>
3977<div>
3978<div>
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3980<div>84 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
3981<div>Are you aware or anyone of you out there that Daniel or George Dubie ’s longtime girlfriend on Oahu gave birth to</div>
3982<div>Daniel’s last son on Oahu this past December? I met the both of t<span></span>hem Sandra and George Dubie at a make a wish</div>
3983<div>event? I believe they have been a couple for many years? She is a first grade teacher…. How does she feel about this?</div>
3984<div>I read about their infant in court documents. Does this make it G<span></span>eorge’s 15th child…How does Geri feel about this?</div>
3985<div>Is this true?</div>
3986<div>16 03 2007</div>
3987<div>Namaste<span> <span>(22:23:39)</span> :</span></div>
3988<div>Shadow boxing anyone?</div>
3989<div>the shadow of ego…</div>
3990<div>“Are you willing to be sponged out, erased, cancelled, made nothi<span></span>ng?</div>
3991<div>If not, you will never really change.”</div>
3992<div>-D.H. Lawrence</div>
3993<div>“It is very much lamented, Brutus,</div>
3994<div>That you have no such mirrors as will turn</div>
3995<div>Your hidden worthiness into your eye,</div>
3996<div>That you might see your shadow.”</div>
3997<div>-Cassius to Brutus in Julius Caesar</div>
3998<div>the shadow denied…</div>
3999<div>“Consider them both, the sea and the land; and do you</div>
4000<div>not find a strange analogy to something in yourself? For</div>
4001<div>as this appalling ocean surrounds the verdant land, so</div>
4002<div>in the soul of man there lies one insular Tahiti, full of</div>
4003<div>peace and joy, but encompassed by all the horrors of the</div>
4004<div>half known life.”</div>
4005<div>-Herman Melville, Moby Dick</div>
4006<div>“Suppression of the shadow is like remedying a headache</div>
4007<div>by a beheading…In the last resort, there is no good</div>
4008<div>that cannot produce evil or evil that cannot produce good.”</div>
4009<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
4010<div>the projection of denial…</div>
4011<div>“Projection makes the whole world a replica of our own</div>
4012<div>unknown face.”</div>
4013<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
4014<div>“It is not the man in Rome that is the source of my problems;</div>
4015<div>it is the Pope in myself that needs to be excommunicated!”</div>
4016<div>-Martin Luther, toward the end of his life</div>
4017<div>the shadow displayed…</div>
4018<div>“It is useless to deny that evil exists; we must frankly face</div>
4019<div>its existence and refuse participation.”</div>
4020<div>-Jane E. Harrison</div>
4021<div>“The anger, the resentment, the bitterness, the desire for</div>
4022<div>recrimination against people you believe have wronged</div>
4023</div>
4024<p> </p>
4025</div>
4026<div>
4027<div>
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4029<div>85 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4030<div>you: they harden the heart and deaden the spirit and lead</div>
4031<div>to self-inflicted wounds.”</div>
4032<div>-Bill Clinton</div>
4033<div>befriending the shadow…</div>
4034<div>“This thing of darkness I acknowledge mine.”</div>
4035<div>-Shakespeare, The Tempest</div>
4036<div>“I will converse with this creature that he may let us</div>
4037<div>borrow his powerful shoulders.”</div>
4038<div>-Dante, The Inferno</div>
4039<div>“Only that which is truly ourselves</div>
4040<div>has the power to heal.”</div>
4041<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
4042<div>shifts that happen…</div>
4043<div>“For I am every dead thing</div>
4044<div>In whom love wrought new alchemy.</div>
4045<div>For his art did express</div>
4046<div>A quintessence even from nothingness,</div>
4047<div>From dull privations and lean emptiness:</div>
4048<div>He ruined me and I am rebegot</div>
4049<div>Of absence, darkness, death, things which are not.”</div>
4050<div>-John Donne</div>
4051<div>“Things are losing their hardness. Now even my body</div>
4052<div>lets the light through.”</div>
4053<div>-Virginia Woolf</div>
4054<div>17 03 2007</div>
4055<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(00:03:57)</span> :</span></div>
4056<div>Hi Teresa/TC,</div>
4057<div>Thank you for your voice here. If you have seen the court records, I think that you have answered the question about</div>
4058<div>the children of record.</div>
4059<div>As far as what does Geri know and feel? I have no idea and I guess I do not think that that matters to this thread</div>
4060<div>except to the extent that she may feel compelled to dig back and <span></span>sort through the mountain of experience with GPD to</div>
4061<div>sort through what was true and what were lies and to provide reco<span></span>rds to proper authorities with utter transparency to</div>
4062<div>further unravel potential nefarious activities.</div>
4063<div>As far as being a long standing couple, and how does “Sandra” feel about all this. I am sorry I don’t know. I would</div>
4064<div>hope that a new mother could be shielded and maintain peace of mi<span></span>nd around her to simply focus on a new born</div>
4065<div>child. The discussions on this thread have no immediate bearing o<span></span>n her situation. If at some point, it is her wish to</div>
4066<div>know more then I would encourage the types of discovery paths we are on here. I feel sad that like so many of us, she</div>
4067<div>may have been led to believe that she was a part of a “couple”. A<span></span> man with so many “exclusive” relationships at the</div>
4068<div>same time defies all my comprehension. How could he keep it all s<span></span>traight? How could he remember, study and master</div>
4069<div>all the minutia that a woman remembers that make her feel that sh<span></span>e is indeed safely part of a “couple”. It would seem</div>
4070<div>from the time frame that he was at the same time a devoted partne<span></span>r to Pim, Bernadette etc. It is all so sad. I would not</div>
4071<div>want to say a word to her about all this at this point. I would w<span></span>ant for her to have his portrait and to remember his</div>
4072<div>remarkable companionship and all his finer gifts and to nurture t<span></span>hat loving environment for the newborn to absorb. To</div>
4073<div>lose a father before death seems so tragic, yet I think that she <span></span>could draw from his remarkable love a strength to go</div>
4074</div>
4075<p> </p>
4076</div>
4077<div>
4078<div>
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4080<div>86 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4081<div>forward.</div>
4082<div>How can I write all this when I have seen so much of the frauds a<span></span>nd double dealing and criminal activity and seen his</div>
4083<div>abuse to me that cost me so many years of my life? I still rememb<span></span>er that love. I have not lost it. Why should I reject</div>
4084<div>my own feelings of love for him? It is really because of that love that I fought/fight to crash down all the lies and find</div>
4085<div>that fellow inside that mountain and to try in my ridiculous fant<span></span>asy to save him from that life of lies. I detest his evil</div>
4086<div>actions in life but I do not detest that inner soul. Why he made <span></span>such bad choices I do not know, but when he last</div>
4087<div>called me 6 weeks before his death I told him of my nightmare (ju<span></span>st the previous night!!) that he was dying and that it</div>
4088<div>was his heart and that there was blood everywhere. I yelled at hi<span></span>m in that phone call to make his life right because of</div>
4089<div>this dream I was convinced there was death around him eminently. <span></span>He just laughed and said “I hope I do die first</div>
4090<div>because if you do you will haunt my a*s forever”.</div>
4091<div>Aloha,</div>
4092<div>HE</div>
4093<div>17 03 2007</div>
4094<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(09:47:51)</span> :</span></div>
4095<div>At the risk of re-igniting the outrage of Unbeliever, I will ackn<span></span>owledge that this is GPD’s birthday. If it is possible for</div>
4096<div>a soul leaving the midst of the living to find truth and peace an<span></span>d “repent”- perhaps even in the last waning millisecs of</div>
4097<div>life after all breathing stops and as the mind shuts down- I pray<span></span> that he made some peace with the eternal.</div>
4098<div>Above, in this thread (on Sept 26 2006) l included one of his ema<span></span>ils, in it he had written (perhaps there are identical</div>
4099<div>copies of this sent to many of his love targets!?)</div>
4100<div>“You represent the hope, faith, trust and true testimony to the p<span></span>ower of love that most people only dream about. You</div>
4101<div>are right, our story would make such an empowing book…and one day<span></span> I do think we should share it with the</div>
4102<div>world…perhaps when I am through this maze and on the clear path o<span></span>f my new life”</div>
4103<div>I am still working out just what exactly was “our story”. I certa<span></span>inily did have “hope faith and trust” in that love. But I</div>
4104<div>think in the end the “empowing” (empowering) aspect of this story<span></span> is in the story of the walk along the path of the</div>
4105<div>search for truth in love.</div>
4106<div>Namaste included a quote:</div>
4107<div>“Things are losing their hardness. Now even my body</div>
4108<div>lets the light through.”</div>
4109<div>-Virginia Woolf</div>
4110<div>That quote resonated strongly with me. The night of that horrible<span></span> assault as I laid there, him holding me so tightly I</div>
4111<div>thought I would be crushed, he had yelled and threatened while cr<span></span>ushing my skull with his hands that he would hit me</div>
4112<div>on the head if I did not stop crying telling me not to move so I <span></span>dared not, I watched the clock. Somewhere after 4 am I</div>
4113<div>faded out into a dream. In the dream I was out at sea, bow crew i<span></span>n heavy weather, it was twilight and things were</div>
4114<div>setting up to be a horrific night of terror at sea. I was setting<span></span> up the bow dropping all sail lashing things down. I</div>
4115<div>looked up and saw a rogue wave-the stuff of nightmares over 50 ft<span></span> face and realized it was all going to be over in a</div>
4116<div>few seconds. There was no way my sailboat no matter how great cou<span></span>ld take the force of this monster. I thought surely</div>
4117<div>we will be knocked down should I latch on with my harness to the <span></span>rail so that after it hits I can stay with the boat? I</div>
4118<div>thought that would be futile so I just braced myself. The wave th<span></span>en hit and utterly shattered the boat and me to the</div>
4119<div>point that I no longer existed, I was only a part of this wave. There was a transparent feeling even more than “even</div>
4120<div>my body lets light through”. I think that dream represented my su<span></span>bconcious trying to make sense or reprocess the</div>
4121<div>horror of rape especially in this situation in which I felt such <span></span>love. I said “NO” I told him multiple times ahead of that</div>
4122<div>horrible night that I would not be party to adultery ever and tha<span></span>t if that happened to me I would commit suicide…..His</div>
4123<div>violent rape of me was a type of death to me. I was shattered. I <span></span>still cannot put it right in my mind. But in the</div>
4124<div>shattering of the being are all kinds of new states of being. I h<span></span>ave learned a lot about pain suffering love. I can relate</div>
4125<div>to other women who have walked this dark forest seemingly alone. <span></span>So in those ways I relate perfectly to Namaste’s</div>
4126<div>last quotes:</div>
4127<div>“For I am every dead thing</div>
4128</div>
4129<p> </p>
4130</div>
4131<div>
4132<div>
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4135<div>In whom love wrought new alchemy.</div>
4136<div>For his art did express</div>
4137<div>A quintessence even from nothingness,</div>
4138<div>From dull privations and lean emptiness:</div>
4139<div>He ruined me and I am rebegot</div>
4140<div>Of absence, darkness, death, things which are not.”</div>
4141<div>-John Donne</div>
4142<div>“Only that which is truly ourselves</div>
4143<div>has the power to heal.”</div>
4144<div>-C.G. Jung</div>
4145<div>I look at life as a path and the experiences all as some type of <span></span>cosmic teachers. To the extent that each can be honored</div>
4146<div>and engaged and listened to the path is richer. I do not see happ<span></span>iness as a goal. I see love and truth as the only</div>
4147<div>companions worth holding on to.</div>
4148<div>18 03 2007</div>
4149<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(13:12:29)</span> :</span></div>
4150<div>HE, I can relate to your experience with Daniel. I understand how you feel. I hope soon you recover from this</div>
4151<div>nightmare.</div>
4152<div>After discovering the truth about Daniel, I tried to remember how<span></span> everything</div>
4153<div>started between me and him. I tried to remember the things he sai<span></span>d and the things we did. The reason why is because</div>
4154<div>it was only in 2006 I found out the story of Kristen on the internet. I was hoping to find some clue.</div>
4155<div>Daniel was telling me that he wants to hire me to manage his SPA <span></span>in Thailand but after he ditch me in Thailand I</div>
4156<div>started to feel strange about this offer. I was only looking for the Houlistic SPA he owned in Thailand over the</div>
4157<div>internet. I thought if I type his name, since he said he is known<span></span> for the movies he produced like he told me, that</div>
4158<div>information about him including his business would come out. But <span></span>I was so surprised to see his name ties to Jon</div>
4159<div>Onuma case. It worry me that when he came to see me again ( to ap<span></span>ologize about not showing up at the Airport in</div>
4160<div>Thailand), I decided to asked him about Jon Onuma. He seems was s<span></span>urprised and told me that he did not know that</div>
4161<div>his name would come out like that on the internet. He doesn’t wan<span></span>t to talk about it. I guess to avoid discussing it, he</div>
4162<div>told me to dress up and his taking me out for a dinner. There is <span></span>this restaurant that we always go in Waikiki. In my</div>
4163<div>heart, I felt like there is something more to discover but then f<span></span>rom the pictures I saw in his house posing with famous</div>
4164<div>people, and having a daugther like Felicia who is involved in UN <span></span>and that he dearly loved, that Daniel involvement</div>
4165<div>with Jon Onuma was just plain innocent. I never asked him again. <span></span>But my curiosity went on and that is how I found</div>
4166<div>out about Geri through browsing on the internet. Her picture on t<span></span>he internet hit me cause I saw her picture once at</div>
4167<div>Daniel’s house in Kailua before. He told me that Geri was his sis<span></span>ter. But anyway, when he came to see me again after</div>
4168<div>few months of being away, I confronted him about it . He then tol<span></span>d me that he loves me so much so he lied because he</div>
4169<div>was afraid I am going to leave him. He said he didn’t want me to <span></span>leave him. He told me that they were in the process</div>
4170<div>of divorce already. I still broke up with him. He never stop call<span></span>ing me. I told him I can only be his friend and nothing</div>
4171<div>else. He said he was fine with it. Then I remember in September l<span></span>ast year that he wants me to meet him at his condo</div>
4172<div>in Waikiki. There he showed me his divorce paper with Geri. He to<span></span>ld me not to say it to anyone because of Geri’s</div>
4173<div>reputation. He said their friends did not know about it. He wants<span></span> me to come back to him . He said for me to wait a</div>
4174<div>little longer and we will get married. I told him I will only bel<span></span>ieve when that time comes . He never give up. He</div>
4175<div>would tell me on the phone that he was the one for me. He said th<span></span>at he was my true love and we were soul mate. I</div>
4176<div>ignored him. I owned a business and keep myself busy. One day one of my client was talking about this man she had</div>
4177<div>met at the beach in Kailua. She was telling me that she and her f<span></span>riend are going to see him at his house in Kailua the</div>
4178<div>next day. When she said Daniel’s name, I asked her to show me his<span></span> number. It was Daniel Dubie’s number. What a</div>
4179<div>small world I thought.She told me that Daniel said his wife is Th<span></span>ai but living in Thailand. I was shocked and</div>
4180<div>remember crying in front of her. Even though I broke up with him,<span></span> somehow it affected me still. Again when he</div>
4181<div>called me, I asked about it. He said this Thai girl was just a gi<span></span>rlfriend from long time ago and that they share a</div>
4182<div>business in Thailand . He said that she is crazy and they always fight. He said that she was stealing money from the</div>
4183<div>business and so he was thinking to sell his share already. He nev<span></span>er said her name.Then I told him that I sent Jeanna</div>
4184</div>
4185<p> </p>
4186</div>
4187<div>
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4191<div>email. He then got angry with me and told me not to talk to her a<span></span>gain cause she was a bad influence and that she is</div>
4192<div>crazy and he will never see her again.. And he also told me not t<span></span>o believe everything on the internet.. I did not ask</div>
4193<div>anymore questions but I thought it was sad cause I though Jeanna <span></span>was his friend for so long. Everytime Daniel’s</div>
4194<div>mood change I just keep my mouth shut.</div>
4195<div>In February, he told me to come to his Kailua house. He said he w<span></span>ants to discuss a potential business with me along</div>
4196<div>with his friends. That night I went to his house in Kailua. He in<span></span>troduced me to his friends. A man named David Wolf.</div>
4197<div>and a woman named Margaret. According to him David is famous in w<span></span>riting books about Spiritual Healing. Margaret</div>
4198<div>lives in Maui and just came to visit. There were other people cam<span></span>e to his house that night as well. They were David’s</div>
4199<div>friend. They all look young and they spent their time drinking in<span></span> the living room till 2 am. We never did discuss any</div>
4200<div>business at all. I briefly talked to David. Daniel and I spent ou<span></span>r time in the jacussi till 4 am. When I asked where</div>
4201<div>Margaret, was, he said that she was upstairs having sex with a ma<span></span>n she just met that day. I could not believe what I</div>
4202<div>was hearing. I cannot believe Daniel is allowing it to happen to <span></span>his house. As far as I know, he is a very descent man</div>
4203<div>who wants privacy at all times. We were awake the whole night. We<span></span> discussed about relationships but when he</div>
4204<div>doesn’t like my opinion he would shut me off. With all these thin<span></span>gs I observed that night, I realize there is more to</div>
4205<div>know a bout this man but I felt like I had enough. I am not buyin<span></span>g his story anymore. I left just before 6 am. When I</div>
4206<div>came home I sent him email right away . I told him how I felt and<span></span> told him I don’t want to see him anymore. He was</div>
4207<div>still calling me and sometimes I ignore it. So many times he set <span></span>up a dinner with me. I promised him twice I will come</div>
4208<div>but changed my mind. I never showed up. He would call me and leav<span></span>e messages. The last time I did not show up on a</div>
4209<div>dinner , he called me and jokingly left a message saying, “ I can<span></span>’t believe you stood me up again. I feel hurt and my</div>
4210<div>heart exploded and blood all over the floor.” Spooky huh. Then when I finally talked to him, I asked if he read my</div>
4211<div>email. Apparently he did not recieve it. When I told him I sent t<span></span>he email to his office, he got mad at me. Later on he</div>
4212<div>called me back with his upset voice and told me, you just tell th<span></span>e world about us. So I got angry and told him, I don’t</div>
4213<div>care and hung up. I never heard from him again. I believe the las<span></span>t time I spoke to him was in between March and</div>
4214<div>April. Then he called me on Mother’s day and left a message. He s<span></span>aid, I quote “ Bernadette, I love you so much.</div>
4215<div>Despite of what happened to us, I know in my heart you are the one for me . The first time I laid my eyes on you, I</div>
4216<div>know you are my soul mate. I am your true love”. The next thing I<span></span> know he is dead.</div>
4217<div>I wish I have info I could give to help find Kristen.</div>
4218<div>This whole thing hurts me too. But it was too late when I start t<span></span>o discover everything. I feel bad about the children he</div>
4219<div>left behind. In a way I am glad that I never got pregnant. I am t<span></span>ruly sorry for all of us who was a victim of Daniel and</div>
4220<div>Jeanna’s lies.</div>
4221<div>Oh yah, Daniel just have answer ready for everything. And because he knows I am the type of person that would not</div>
4222<div>go into further discussion for the sake of peace in the relations<span></span>hip he knows exactly how to manipulate me. And for</div>
4223<div>me to believe him how much he really loves me, he would send me f<span></span>lowers at work. And if he is not going to see me</div>
4224<div>for awhile, he would made sure I know that he was there somewhere<span></span> still thinking of me by sending postcards. He</div>
4225<div>also loves to play songs on my cell phone. He likes this song “It<span></span>’s hard for me to say I’m sorry”. What a skunk!</div>
4226<div>19 03 2007</div>
4227<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
4228<p> </p>
4229<div>(05:53:59)<span> :</span></div>
4230<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
4231<div>You are so fortunate that you were not assaulted in that “come to<span></span> my condo to meet my business associates to discuss</div>
4232<div>a future business plan” scam!!</div>
4233<div>By Kailua home do you mean Lanikai on the water? The Waikiki cond<span></span>o near to the W (BTW it is featured in the</div>
4234<div>“happy couple” wretch website scam photo montage by Geri above) ?<span></span> Favorite Waikiki restaurant Nicks? W? New</div>
4235<div>Otani?</div>
4236<div>It really is nauseating to know his whole trip was a well practic<span></span>ed con. The “heart breaking” non stop pleading</div>
4237<div>messages the letters/postcards/emails. The lies that all the othe<span></span>r women in his life cannot be trusted are “crazy”</div>
4238<div>“morons”. The “please wait a little more and believe in us”. It d<span></span>oes all hurt very badly.</div>
4239<div>In the end his heart was literally broken by bullets of steel. Hi<span></span>s heart did explode. I do not know what to make of it</div>
4240</div>
4241<p> </p>
4242</div>
4243<div>
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4247<div>all. I think I have felt the rage that Jeanna expressed that nigh<span></span>t in CM. Ultimately though as Namaste points out that</div>
4248<div>rage comes back and I direct it at myself again and again. How co<span></span>uld I have been so dumb trusting unsafe? How can I</div>
4249<div>ever feel safe again? How can I forget all this and “MOVE ON”? Why did he hate me so much to do these things? I</div>
4250<div>devoted myself to him gave him every ounce of my life and energy <span></span>when I was in that mode of believing in his plan.</div>
4251<div>Thank God I finally found the courage and strength to rejected him once and for all after what I saw with my twin</div>
4252<div>pregnancy. That shook me to my core and I realized love or not I <span></span>could not be safe with him. He was a liar to the core.</div>
4253<div>That was about the time the song “Torn”came out. He used to play <span></span>songs for me on my cell all the time. When he</div>
4254<div>played that song after a very bad fight, I saw that he was so heartless.</div>
4255<div>19 03 2007</div>
4256<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(19:22:06)</span> :</span></div>
4257<div>Sorry TC but I don’t think the facts of his life show that he truly loved, respected or cared for anyone except perhaps</div>
4258<div>Felicia. He certainly scammed Geri out of huge amounts of cash; c<span></span>arried on horrid acts of betrayal on Geri, Sandra</div>
4259<div>and Pim ( lets just say every single woman he ever professed to “<span></span>love”)-so I don’t think you could call that true love</div>
4260<div>and respect-at least I wouldn’t. Kari was no “side fling” motheri<span></span>ng 3 of his children and spending years by his side. I</div>
4261<div>would say what a tragic waste of a life…..</div>
4262<div>20 03 2007</div>
4263<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(02:16:01)</span> :</span></div>
4264<div>t.c., Thank you for your comment. Yes, Daniel Dubie is wicked. He is a devil. Luckily even he is dead now, his evil</div>
4265<div>game is being expose to teach everyone of us. I am sure, there ar<span></span>e some men who play the same kind of game to</div>
4266<div>women out there just like we see on the news. We really have to b<span></span>e careful.</div>
4267<div>In my opinion, I don’t think Daniel has love and respect for any <span></span>of his women, that includes Geri, Pim and Sandra. If</div>
4268<div>he loves any of these women, he should not cheat and lie to them.<span></span> I don’t think he even knows the meaning of LOVE.</div>
4269<div>I believe he uses them as well, but just different from ME, HE, K<span></span>ari and all other women who he said he loves. I think</div>
4270<div>he stayed with these women for his own purpose. He used Geri because she is successful than him. She used Pim</div>
4271<div>because she can get more comfortable being with her and having a <span></span>second place to live, Thailand…..his getaway</div>
4272<div>country. When I asked about all his Buddha collections, he told m<span></span>e that so many of them came from Thailand. He</div>
4273<div>said he is Buddhist and Thailand is like a home to him. But he sa<span></span>id that Thai girls always asked for money so he just</div>
4274<div>can’t be with Thai girl…..what a liar! There is no possble way he<span></span> can live there as long as he wants and open up a</div>
4275<div>business without connection. Somehow he also used Pim. It doesn’t<span></span> mean she got some of his money and time that</div>
4276<div>she is loved and respect! The man never loved anyone!</div>
4277<div>I remember one day, he called me up to help him go to Health Food<span></span> Store. He said he needs assistance cause he was</div>
4278<div>recovering from his eye surgery. So I drove him to the store. Whe<span></span>n he was paying, his card was declined. He got</div>
4279<div>upset. He told me it is impossible because he said he has million<span></span>s of dollar in his account. Anyway, he decided to</div>
4280<div>used another card and it works.</div>
4281<div>He told me, “I don’t mind telling you I have lots of money becaus<span></span>e you are the only woman I’ve met that never asked</div>
4282<div>me for anything”. I thought that was funny and joke to him and sa<span></span>id ” So, how many women asked for your money?</div>
4283<div>He said, I just knew because my friends tell me about it especial<span></span>ly when we go to Asia, worst in Thailand. That is the</div>
4284<div>only negative thing in Thailand, otherwise he really loves living<span></span> in Thailand.</div>
4285<div>I also remember he said that the only reason why he likes to dona<span></span>te a large</div>
4286<div>amount of money is because of his taxes. He said he have to give <span></span>some to the government so they won’t take more of</div>
4287<div>his money. I thought he was joking but I guess not, knowing he is<span></span> a con. He used oganization for his own purpose. As</div>
4288<div>we can see, if he truly loves children and wants to help them, he<span></span> would take care of his own children first and not</div>
4289<div>abandoned and abuse them.</div>
4290<div>He also bragged about his house in Kailua that it is paid off not<span></span> like his neighbors. He said, they do not own their</div>
4291<div>houses as they claim. The bank owns it. He said he works hard so <span></span>his house is paid . I did not know at that time that</div>
4292<div>Geri is also the owner of that house. What a scum bug!</div>
4293<div>My point is….where is the love? Where is respect? If he can cheat and used and abused women and children, then</div>
4294</div>
4295<p> </p>
4296</div>
4297<div>
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4301<div>there is NONE!</div>
4302<div>20 03 2007</div>
4303<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(11:58:23)</span> :</span></div>
4304<div>Eeeks it just keeps going. With his retina problem he asked me to<span></span> find the very best surgeon in Hawaii and I</div>
4305<div>introduced him to a friend of mine, born in the same small town a<span></span>s my mother, who is the best trained eye surgeon</div>
4306<div>here. I worked hard to be sure he got absolutely the best possibl<span></span>e care and also brought him things to the hospital</div>
4307<div>room at Queens! He certainly had his tag team of “go to girls” (”<span></span>you are my one true love”) working to serve his</div>
4308<div>every need…..</div>
4309<div>Back to TC, his use of women: Pim allowed him a foothold in Thail<span></span>and. He told me Geri was all a business front and</div>
4310<div>that she used him because in Herbalife the emphasis was on happy <span></span>show couples. He wanted me to be invisible</div>
4311<div>around her and that she would say nothing as long as her reputati<span></span>on was not affected. I once asked Felicia “who does</div>
4312<div>your father say that I am?” she said that he told everyone that I was his best friend and that he was very protective of</div>
4313<div>me to others and would defend his time with me. So that is how it<span></span> was in that household until I saw the horrors that I</div>
4314<div>saw and I realized it was all a mountain of lies.</div>
4315<div>He seemed to think of himself as the ultimate creator of “his rea<span></span>lity” that he was a divine screen</div>
4316<div>writer/producer/director of those in his life. Each love scene he<span></span> played with great sincerity like a “method actor”.</div>
4317<div>There were only a few times when I saw that façade truly start to crack. One time was after I had told him of a dream</div>
4318<div>in which I saw him surrounded by all types of other women and chi<span></span>ldren (AT that time I did not know of all the</div>
4319<div>others so it was a weirdly prophetic dream). He suddenly became f<span></span>illed with rage and took my hand and told me to</div>
4320<div>forget that dream that it wasn’t true and to NEVER speak to anoth<span></span>er woman about him. That “their lies” would</div>
4321<div>destroy us and what we were recreating. His response was so start<span></span>ling and weird that I began to understand that he</div>
4322<div>was severely tortured by things he worked hard to hide.</div>
4323<div>I think that many if not all of us in his life did truly love, ca<span></span>re for and respect him. Even after losing respect for him, I</div>
4324<div>think that love continues for some of us. But to try to make glob<span></span>al statements that he loved/cared for/respected certain</div>
4325<div>targets but not others, I think is really dangerous. The common t<span></span>heme is that he told each person that they were the</div>
4326<div>one true love and all the others were flawed/crazy/using him…He t<span></span>old me that he loved Pim very much but he wanted</div>
4327<div>to come back to me when his “path was clear”. He told me that he <span></span>never loved Geri. I met “Sandra” and helped her. I</div>
4328<div>think in the end he feared me but I don’t know about “respect”. H<span></span>e continued to profess “love” but I don’t know how</div>
4329<div>to take that at this point. He did go to great lengths to “care” <span></span>for me and went over board to lavish me (new cars etc).</div>
4330<div>He took me around with realtors to find a house to buy me … but t<span></span>hen I rejected him and ran away from all that and</div>
4331<div>turned to fight the lies instead.</div>
4332<div>I wonder what would happen if we posted info “Wanted” type ads with his photo in Honolulu, Thai, SF and LA</div>
4333<div>newspapers to see what other women are out there who had a life w<span></span>ith him and what their stories are. I think all our</div>
4334<div>stories are horrible for us as individual people but the greater <span></span>fear I have is that we are the tip of the iceberg and that</div>
4335<div>his “underground” life was truly criminal. IF we could break into<span></span> that all our traumas may have some good ultimate</div>
4336<div>use.</div>
4337<div>21 03 2007</div>
4338<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(18:23:21)</span> :</span></div>
4339<div>Sorry to be so blunt but as you have found this corner of cyberspace and have not really introduced yourself, I</div>
4340<div>wonder-Who are you Theresa “T.C?” What is your research? Are you writing a book about this? You may note that</div>
4341<div>Personal Prosperity did write in above and your research may reve<span></span>al who PP is. You may have seen Iris write in. I</div>
4342<div>have a guess who she is.You may also note that Ness P. wrote in. <span></span>There is a lot of anger and these discussions are</div>
4343<div>intimate and honest live time processing to catch up with years o<span></span>f questions. Why would you expect “Sandra” to write</div>
4344<div>in with a newborn to tend to every waking moment. I think how Mar<span></span>garet fits in has been well considered and</div>
4345<div>remains to be answered by her directly at some point (if ever).</div>
4346<div>22 03 2007</div>
4347</div>
4348<p> </p>
4349</div>
4350<div>
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4354<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(00:54:56)</span> :</span></div>
4355<div>Yes, Ms TC, I also wonder who you are and what you are trying to accomplish here. I don’t want to sound mean, I am</div>
4356<div>just as curious as HE about who you are.</div>
4357<div>Your comment:</div>
4358<div>I feel sorry for you Bernadeth and “H. eyes” It appears through your experiences with “Daniel” that you were there</div>
4359<div>for him during his”beck and call” and during his “conveinience”</div>
4360<div>Maybe you were right about this. I maybe there for him when he ne<span></span>eds me but isn’t it that normal to be with the man</div>
4361<div>you love when he needs you? . I was in love with him and so I did what I did to take care of him whenever he is</div>
4362<div>around. No, it is not the money that I was there for him since I <span></span>never asked him for that. Besides he chose to spend his</div>
4363<div>money on me the way he wants it. He tried to pay my condo and buy<span></span> me a new car. But I did not accept the offer. He</div>
4364<div>maybe did not lavish me with all kinds of material things but he <span></span>showed he cares and love for me. When I met him, I</div>
4365<div>was in the process of opening up my business. I finally did open <span></span>my business and he was proud of me. He supported</div>
4366<div>me by giving me hints on how I can improve my business, bought me<span></span> plenty of books about business, and gave me a</div>
4367<div>big Bhudda for goodluck which he said worth thousands of dollar. I don’t know if that is true but it doesn’t matter</div>
4368<div>anyway .. I was just very trusting and I believe all the things he said and promised …..that he will marry me someday.</div>
4369<div>I thought I was pretty lucky to have a man like him whose sweet, <span></span>down to earth, generous, love kids, great dad to</div>
4370<div>Felica , low profile despite of being successful and wealthy. Who<span></span>se not gonna want a man like that.</div>
4371<div>Whenever were together, he would take me to expensive Restaurants<span></span>, We will sit by his window in his condo and</div>
4372<div>stare at the moon or listen to the sound of the wave while he put<span></span>s his arms around me. We also sometimes spend time</div>
4373<div>on his other houses in other island. He will take me to Spas. We <span></span>did had a good time. We will take a walk to the beach</div>
4374<div>hand in hand. He can be romantic, sending me flowers at work. I a<span></span>m not bragging about all these because I am not</div>
4375<div>proud and it is not a competition of how much Daniel spent on eve<span></span>ry women he lied about. In fact I feel really</div>
4376<div>disgusted about these whole thing now.</div>
4377<div>My point is he had a way to make me believed about what he called<span></span> pure love. I never doubted him once until it</div>
4378<div>started to fall apart. That is how I began to investigate. Althou<span></span>gh, he had many excuses and answer for everything I</div>
4379<div>know in my heart there is something to know about this man. I may<span></span>be have chosen to just not question him after</div>
4380<div>finding about Onuma’s story but I did my own research until I cam<span></span>e across Geri’s picture on the internet , and end up</div>
4381<div>here on this blog and found out all these other women I never tho<span></span>ught existed because Daniel said, “I was the ONE”</div>
4382<div>and he is the one worth waiting for.</div>
4383<div>So yes, I was there for him when he needs me . But if I only knew then and found out the truth earlier and he did not</div>
4384<div>die, I will face him and put him to shame. Because what he did to<span></span> me, HE and other women was not right because we</div>
4385<div>have feelings! We are humans!</div>
4386<div>22 03 2007</div>
4387<div>hazel8500</div>
4388<p> </p>
4389<div>(01:08:39)<span> :</span></div>
4390<div>I apologize you guys I think TC is a troll that got by me today. <span></span>Been having some problems at a board I moderate.</div>
4391<div>TC I’m deleting you, please don’t bother these women again. Last <span></span>warning. I’m too tired of trolls to be polite.</div>
4392<div>22 03 2007</div>
4393<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(01:23:20)</span> :</span></div>
4394<div>Hi HE, yes I guess you could say that I was fortunate because Daniel never assaulted me. He was always sweet to me</div>
4395<div>. The only thing about him was that when he didn’t like my commen<span></span>t or opinion, he would shut me off . He will</div>
4396<div>become defensive and sometimes argumentative.</div>
4397</div>
4398<p> </p>
4399</div>
4400<div>
4401<div>
4402<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4403<div>92 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4404<div>He never take me to Nicks nor at Otani. We always go to W, Michel<span></span>ls and La’ Mer. He gave me the black pearl at</div>
4405<div>W’s with a card. I know you are aware that he was a vegetarian but that night he broke the rule…..he ordered beef.</div>
4406<div>He said that night was special. He never tell me why.</div>
4407<div>Yes, the house I was talking about is in Lanikai. The condo in Wa<span></span>ikiki is facing the ocean. The house in big Island</div>
4408<div>was in Waimea and the house in Kauai is also close to the beach.</div>
4409<div>Hah, I think he has song dedicated for each and everyone of us.</div>
4410<div>And your dream is freaky as well as the joke he left on my cell p<span></span>hone.</div>
4411<div>He did died with his heart exploded from a bullet!</div>
4412<div>23 03 2007</div>
4413<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
4414<div><span>(17:34:50)</span> :</div>
4415<div>Dear Bernadette and Hazel,</div>
4416<div>I really appreciate this forum as a way to express these long hid<span></span>den torments that GPD left as lasting gifts to me! I</div>
4417<div>think I am on my way to real and sustained recovery and healing. <span></span>The major ache in my heart though now concerns</div>
4418<div>reaching those out there that may be left suffering similar torme<span></span>nts or worse in the darkness of his legacy of lies. I</div>
4419<div>guess my biggest questions are-What was the pornography in Asia c<span></span>omment by the FBI agent to me about? Was it</div>
4420<div>true? I would tend to believe him. Was Jeana involved? Her co-con<span></span>spirator behaviour in recruiting new love interests</div>
4421<div>for him seems slimey at best. How could we get this message out t<span></span>o a broader audience? I can look over the past 6</div>
4422<div>years and see various tactics at work–First he isolated me then t<span></span>ried to discredit me. I played along with the crazy card</div>
4423<div>to get distance from him and to be able to strike back at any tim<span></span>e in unpredictable ways. I wanted to engender some</div>
4424<div>type of fear from him and that vile camp. Second kept reaching ou<span></span>t to me to break me and get me back into his fold.</div>
4425<div>Third he kept up with his various fronts of great enlightened man<span></span> Millennium Peace Child, “UN”…, Healing centers,</div>
4426<div>show couple partner to Geri, blah, blah.</div>
4427<div>http://www.wretch.cc/blog/annieduan&amp;article_id=9224465</div>
4428<div>With his death comes the opportunity to potentially get some real<span></span> answers. But How? It seems that on the one hand</div>
4429<div>the fact could be that he really was a loving soulful family man <span></span>with a few common vices (lying, womanizing,</div>
4430<div>kidnapping a child out of custody fears[not a common vice but som<span></span>e could relate to that type of desperate behaviour],</div>
4431<div>exaggerating his good works…) On the other side he could have been a rabid jihadist and front man for Asian</div>
4432<div>pornography sex/drug trade going through Thailand and Amsterdam e<span></span>tc. I really do not want to claim to know where</div>
4433<div>along that broad spectrum the answer lies. But I think that those<span></span> of us here who have made an acquaintance through</div>
4434<div>this marvelous site could put our creative energies into trying t<span></span>o get further into answering these questions. I guess the</div>
4435<div>difficulty would be finding those like me and worse that he did n<span></span>ot treat so gently. I know of a brothel like place in</div>
4436<div>Honolulu he used to speak of and I had seen his truck outside of-<span></span>this place was all asian ladies(girls really). But</div>
4437<div>reaching these ladies would be extremely difficult or impossible.<span></span> Any ideas?</div>
4438<div>http://www.findkristen.com/~site/Scripts_NewGuest/NewGuest.dll?CM<span></span>D=CMDGetViewEntriesPage&amp;STYLE=book/</div>
4439<div>
4440<div>&amp;</div>
4441</div>
4442<div>I do hope that we could turn our experiences around somehow to be<span></span> of help to others.</div>
4443<div>24 03 2007</div>
4444<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(09:25:45)</span> :</span></div>
4445<div>Dear HE,</div>
4446<div>I am glad to hear of your recovery from this emotional torment Da<span></span>niel left us.</div>
4447<div>In regards to reaching out for other possible victims, there mayb<span></span>e is a way to do that like you suggested from your</div>
4448<div>previous comments. But I do think that Jeanna knows a lot and she<span></span> is the only one can help us if only she would talk.</div>
4449</div>
4450<p> </p>
4451</div>
4452<div>
4453<div>
4454<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4455<div>93 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4456<div>That is why it is important that she comes back to Canada and go <span></span>to jail there than to die in Thailand of firing squad.</div>
4457<div>If she dies, then she keep with her all the things she knows abou<span></span>t Daniel Dubie. Who knows, she maybe knew</div>
4458<div>something about Kristen as well.</div>
4459<div>Question…..Have you seen picture of Daniel with members of the UN<span></span>? I saw this picture. He was there as well as</div>
4460<div>Felicia. He also came to see me one afternoon wearing a blue vest<span></span> and a name tag with his picture on it and a title</div>
4461<div>CNN photographer written on it. What is this all about? That is w<span></span>hy I believe him when he says he was busy all the</div>
4462<div>time. He even told me that he was interviewed by CNN for his work<span></span> of his film he directed “Souls at Bay”. Though I</div>
4463<div>never seen that interview. I was just wondering since he lied so <span></span>much if there is any truth about him being involve</div>
4464<div>with CNN nor UN. I was reading the article in one of the news paper that it says the CNN denies knowing him at all.</div>
4465<div>He also showed me a magazine with an article talking about him an<span></span>d his pictures was there on each page. In fairness</div>
4466<div>he was looking good there like a model. It came from Indonesia an<span></span>d the words is Indonesian so I could not understand</div>
4467<div>it. He told me that he was interviewed because of his contributio<span></span>n to poor people out there. I wanted that copy but he</div>
4468<div>did not want me to have one. I remember looking it up on the inte<span></span>rnet but can’t find it. I just could not remember the</div>
4469<div>name of the magazine now. Have you seen it? Just curious.</div>
4470<div>God Bless HE.</div>
4471<div>Bernadette</div>
4472<div>24 03 2007</div>
4473<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:52:14)</span> :</span></div>
4474<div>Hawaiian Eyes, I was doing some stats checking on this blog and d<span></span>iscovered something I wanted to bring to your</div>
4475<div>attention;</div>
4476<div>These are terms people used to find My blog.</div>
4477<div>Today</div>
4478<div>Search Views</div>
4479<div>nexopia 62</div>
4480<div>thai visa hawaiian eyes 17</div>
4481<div>My nexopia thread is often the top search term, however your scre<span></span>en name comes in second today. I’ve never noticed</div>
4482<div>that before.</div>
4483<div>FYI</div>
4484<div>Take care.</div>
4485<div>24 03 2007</div>
4486<div>hazel8500</div>
4487<p> </p>
4488<div>(13:59:11)<span> :</span></div>
4489<div>Dear HE and Bernadette, I am really happy you’ve found each other this site and some measure of healing. I’ve been</div>
4490<div>catching up with my reading this morning and HE especially when w<span></span>e first met through here to today, i see new</div>
4491<div>strength showing though. I am so proud to have had the opportunit<span></span>y to know you through this blog.</div>
4492<div>As for the pornography investigations, I have faith in what goneaway has said, as well as the honolulu detective who</div>
4493<div>was doing the investigations into his fraud charges.</div>
4494<div>I also have faith more information will start to come to light.</div>
4495<div>Bernadette, i do believe I’ve seen footage of Daniel’s films I wi<span></span>ll look for some and link them here for you if I find</div>
4496<div>any.</div>
4497</div>
4498<p> </p>
4499</div>
4500<div>
4501<div>
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4503<div>94 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4504<div>Take care ladies.</div>
4505<div>Hazel.</div>
4506<div>24 03 2007</div>
4507<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(15:52:15)</span> :</span></div>
4508<div>Dear Bernadette,</div>
4509<div>I think his UN &amp; CNN affiliation claims were window dressing and <span></span>exaggeration that he used to win others</div>
4510<div>confidence and trust. He was involved with Peace Child Internatio<span></span>nal that has some support from the UN (also</div>
4511<div>Herbalife). He was not a legitimate employee of the UN or CNN eve<span></span>r as far as I know. The news report from</div>
4512<div>Indonesia saying that he represented the UN was really a translat<span></span>ion error. A link to the translation error version is</div>
4513<div>here and the next is a better translation which shows that states<span></span> “Daniel Dubie, a world class director who often</div>
4514<div>involved in UN’s documentary films told the plan while giving the<span></span> award to Sanglah Hospital (The Bali Center</div>
4515<div>Hospital), representing the Peace of Children International Unite<span></span>d Nation, in Denpasar, Thursday (3/12)”</div>
4516<div>http://www.kabar-irian.com/pipermail/kabar-indonesia/2002-<span></span><span>“December/000132.html</span></div>
4517<div>Antara</div>
4518<div>Health</div>
4519<div>U.N. Presents Citation To Denpasar General Hospital</div>
4520<div>Tuesday, December 03, 2002 4:56:31 PM</div>
4521<div>Denpasar, Bali - The United Nations has presented the Denpasar Ge<span></span>neral Hospital</div>
4522<div>a special citation for its efficient handling of the victims of t<span></span>he Bali bomb</div>
4523<div>explosions last Oct 12 that killed almost 200 people and injured <span></span>300 others.</div>
4524<div>The UN, represented by Daniel Dubie, presented the citation to hospital</div>
4525<div>director, Dr Lanang Budiartha, here on Tuesday.</div>
4526<div>The UN also gave individual citations to a number of doctors of t<span></span>he hospital</div>
4527<div>for giving the victims their best service”</div>
4528<div>More reliable english version of the event:</div>
4529<div>http://baliwww.com/news/bali_travel_news/detail/2002/12/387.html</div>
4530<div>“Bali Blast Tragedy brought to Hollywood</div>
4531<div>December 05, 2002 [Nusa - Editor]</div>
4532<div>The Kuta Saturday night blast killed almost 200 people inspired U<span></span>S movie director Daniel Dubie to make a special</div>
4533<div>film about the tragedy.</div>
4534<div>Daniel Dubie, a world class director who often involved in UN’s d<span></span>ocumentary films told the plan while giving the</div>
4535<div>award to Sanglah Hospital (The Bali Center Hospital), representin<span></span>g the Peace of Children International United</div>
4536<div>Nation, in Denpasar, Thursday (3/12)</div>
4537<div>The big efforts of Sanglah Hospital in treating the victims inspi<span></span>red the director to make a movie about it. The film that</div>
4538<div>will be produced under the Rindon Production is planned to involv<span></span>e the family of the blast victims in Bali and in</div>
4539<div>various countries.</div>
4540<div>The movie that will be starred by two famous Hollywood celebritie<span></span>s, Patrick Swayze and Jennifer Love-Hewitt will</div>
4541<div>tell about a romance between a surfer and a nurse while helping t<span></span>he victims of the blast.</div>
4542<div>The movie that predicted will attract world’s interest will be fi<span></span>nished in about 18 months with US$ 4 million budget. ”</div>
4543<div>Even in this contains the huge lie that he was going to do a 4 mi<span></span>llion dollar Hollywood romance movie with Patrick</div>
4544<div>Swayze. I saw this posting immediately in 2002 and watched legiti<span></span>mate sites by Jennifer Love-Hewitt and Patrick</div>
4545<div>Swayze. They never even listed that project as one under consideration. It seems to have been a complete GPD</div>
4546</div>
4547<p> </p>
4548</div>
4549<div>
4550<div>
4551<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4552<div>95 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4553<div>fabrication!!!</div>
4554<div>He made lots of fake ID cards. He even made some for me. I refuse<span></span>d to play along with that BS. I think his CNN</div>
4555<div>press pass badge was probably a fake or fraudulent in some way.</div>
4556<div>I have some of his Indonesian photos where he is very “model” lik<span></span>e. If there is a site to post these I could.</div>
4557<div>There was also a big article about him and his remarkable film hi<span></span>story in a Dutch Magazine. I have all that as well.</div>
4558<div>He seemed to work very hard at building and maintaining an image <span></span>of himself as a “world class director” as well as</div>
4559<div>children- and peace-activist. He did in fact work with Peace Chil<span></span>d International. But what I have seen is someone that</div>
4560<div>used children and charities and disasters to further his aims tha<span></span>t led to the neglect of children and fraud and abuse of</div>
4561<div>others. He seemed to be slick enough to manipulate situations and<span></span> people to his perpetual advantage.</div>
4562<div>Aloha,</div>
4563<div>HE</div>
4564<div>24 03 2007</div>
4565<div>Namaste<span> <span>(22:03:44)</span> :</span></div>
4566<div>“When we create a container for our own anger, we set it free fro<span></span>m the embroideries of blame and demand. Then and</div>
4567<div>only then do we discover the underlying feelings that may be beckoning to us from past life and relationships. We see</div>
4568<div>how this present existential anger is basically simple but has ga<span></span>thered complicated energy from past memories or</div>
4569<div>hurts. This shows us where our work is, and we no longer attempt <span></span>to dump it on someone else. We cannot do this</div>
4570<div>work when anger is turned into drama and we are blinded by our affronted ego. The ego is terrified of grief and</div>
4571<div>letting go. Drama-abuse is its way of getting around those threat<span></span>ening possibilities.”</div>
4572<div>-David Richo</div>
4573<div>“May the dissolver of sugar dissolve me just in time.”</div>
4574<div>-Rumi</div>
4575<div>25 03 2007</div>
4576<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(14:50:05)</span> :</span></div>
4577<div>Bernadette you wrote:</div>
4578<div>Yes, Ms TC, I also wonder who you are and what you are trying to accomplish here. I don’t want to sound mean, I am</div>
4579<div>just as curious as HE about who you are.</div>
4580<div>Your comment:</div>
4581<div>I feel sorry for you Bernadeth and “H. eyes” It appears through your experiences with “Daniel” that you were there</div>
4582<div>for him during his”beck and call” and during his “conveinience”</div>
4583<div>xxxxxxxx</div>
4584<div>Let me clear it up for everyone, TC thinks I am Hawaiin Eyes, she<span></span> also thinks I am a woman by the name of heather,</div>
4585<div>Debbie and probably a few others. I expect if properly approached she would be willing to believe I am santa clause.</div>
4586<div>TC is currently doing her utmost to ruin my online experience, i <span></span>suspect because of all the attention this blog has</div>
4587<div>generated specifically about the missing and murdered women in Ca<span></span>nada. Ladies, there are big things afoot in my</div>
4588<div>country at the moment and there are people out there who would li<span></span>ke nothing more to not only quiet me, but also to</div>
4589<div>discredit me.</div>
4590<div>Thats okay, they can do their best, but i am quite cogniscent of <span></span>the fact there are many many other people who are</div>
4591<div>beginning to pick up the torch.</div>
4592</div>
4593<p> </p>
4594</div>
4595<div>
4596<div>
4597<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4598<div>96 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4599<div>25 03 2007</div>
4600<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
4601<div><span>(19:38:42)</span> :</div>
4602<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
4603<div>I am saddened to hear of your difficulties.</div>
4604<div>I think that TC is perhaps too well informed on private details o<span></span>f GPD (properties etc) to be a simple “troll”. It seems</div>
4605<div>to me that TC was making provocative statements meant to inflame <span></span>in a troll strategy but I think the author herself is</div>
4606<div>sophisticated although the writing style was very rushed.</div>
4607<div>If there are forces a foot to disrupt these conversations that wo<span></span>uld not surprise me and may indicate that these</div>
4608<div>communications are too close for certain folks to feel comfortabl<span></span>e. Which I see as a good thing.</div>
4609<div>Keep up the good work!</div>
4610<div>Aloha,</div>
4611<div>HE</div>
4612<div>25 03 2007</div>
4613<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(19:49:09)</span> :</span></div>
4614<div>Dear Namaste,</div>
4615<div>I like your contributions very much! In a strange way you remind <span></span>me of the very best of GPD-his abilities to dig deep</div>
4616<div>into each situation and “re-create” it in a different “reality” s<span></span>o that there was a deeper message. That is extremely</div>
4617<div>valuable and represents the best of what I think humanity is capa<span></span>ble of.</div>
4618<div>So I agree and I have shed enough tears–that which would melt sug<span></span>ar– to know that my ego long ago essentially</div>
4619<div>dissolved.</div>
4620<div>I appreciate your quote with the context of anger and that it nee<span></span>ds to be removed from the self etc. I appreciate your</div>
4621<div>caution regarding drama and the blindness that fear can bring to <span></span>the soul. These are all part of my struggles and some</div>
4622<div>days are better than others.</div>
4623<div>Still we live on multiple levels. There should be a mindful level<span></span> of peace that is not tied to situations as you point to.</div>
4624<div>But just like a traffic accident in which innocents are killed or<span></span> maimed, we must be ready to take concrete actions. In</div>
4625<div>this case GPD had a long history of reckless behaviour. I want to<span></span> be sure that I take proper actions that are in keeping</div>
4626<div>with my duty as a fellow human being to protect others from harm.<span></span> I wish to do that without drama or fear or anger</div>
4627<div>but grounded in the simple principles of unconditional love and t<span></span>ruth.</div>
4628<div>Aloha,</div>
4629<div>HE</div>
4630<div>25 03 2007</div>
4631<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(19:53:50)</span> :</span></div>
4632<div>I think that TC is perhaps too well informed on private details o<span></span>f GPD (properties etc) to be a simple “troll”. It seems</div>
4633<div>to me that TC was making provocative statements meant to inflame <span></span>in a troll strategy but I think the author herself is</div>
4634<div>sophisticated although the writing style was very rushed.</div>
4635<div>Sadly HE this person is no ordinary troll. They work out of a institutionalized server out of Ottawa Ontario. They are</div>
4636<div>well informed because they have been following my work and intera<span></span>cting with me under a wide variety of different</div>
4637<div>screen names, handles and personalities for over year now. They’v<span></span>e pretended to be a criminologist, an journalist, the</div>
4638<div>wife of a cop, as both males and as females.</div>
4639</div>
4640<p> </p>
4641</div>
4642<div>
4643<div>
4644<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4645<div>97 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4646<div>As you said, this person is no ordinary troll, and yes there are <span></span>forces at work who would like to silence conversations</div>
4647<div>like these.</div>
4648<div>25 03 2007</div>
4649<div>hazel8500</div>
4650<div><span>(19:56:21)</span> :</div>
4651<div>PS HE Thank you for your sympathy. It is most appreciated, but do<span></span>n’t worry I’m okay I thrive under pressure.</div>
4652<div>28 03 2007</div>
4653<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(19:04:00)</span> :</span></div>
4654<div>Laura, TC Goldenboi, whatever your screen name is just don’t both<span></span>er. I’m not letting your comments through.</div>
4655<div>29 03 2007</div>
4656<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(22:31:33)</span> :</span></div>
4657<div>Hi Bernadette,</div>
4658<div>Was the info I wrote in about CNN UN and Indonesia useful to address your questions?</div>
4659<div>Aloha,</div>
4660<div>HE</div>
4661<div>30 03 2007</div>
4662<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(12:01:38)</span> :</span></div>
4663<div>Hi HE,</div>
4664<div>Sorry, I got busy for awhile. Yes, thanks for all the information<span></span> you shared. I just could not believe this con-man used</div>
4665<div>CNN and UN for his crap. And I still can’t believe I fall for his trapped. He really seems was a very nice guy.</div>
4666<div>30 03 2007</div>
4667<div>Bernadette<span> <span>(12:25:45)</span> :</span></div>
4668<div>Hi Hazel, sorry to hear that there are people out there who wants to discredit your good work. I really appreciate this</div>
4669<div>forum. I would have never found out about Daniel without this sit<span></span>e.</div>
4670<div>And to everyone who shared their stories and experiences with Daniel especially to you HE who only wants to expose</div>
4671<div>the truth about this man to others, Thank you, Thank you! It is e<span></span>asy to step forward if you know what was left behind.</div>
4672<div>I learned the truth. I got the answers. I was devastated. My trus<span></span>t was betrayed and still trying to pick up the pieces.</div>
4673<div>Again, Thank you Hazel, HE, Kari, Goneaway &amp; to everyone who shared their stories on this blog.</div>
4674<div>God Bless.</div>
4675<div>Bernadette</div>
4676<div>30 03 2007</div>
4677<div>Namaste<span> <span>(23:59:24)</span> :</span></div>
4678<div>IF IT BE YOUR WILL</div>
4679<div>“If it be your will</div>
4680</div>
4681<p> </p>
4682</div>
4683<div>
4684<div>
4685<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4686<div>98 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4687<div>That I speak no more</div>
4688<div>And my voice be still</div>
4689<div>As it was before</div>
4690<div>I will speak no more</div>
4691<div>I shall abide until</div>
4692<div>I am spoken for</div>
4693<div>If it be your will</div>
4694<div>If it be your will</div>
4695<div>That a voice be true</div>
4696<div>From this broken hill</div>
4697<div>I will sing to you</div>
4698<div>From this broken hill</div>
4699<div>All your praises they shall ring</div>
4700<div>If it be your will</div>
4701<div>To let me sing</div>
4702<div>If it be your will</div>
4703<div>If there is a choice</div>
4704<div>Let the rivers fill</div>
4705<div>Let the hills rejoice</div>
4706<div>Let your mercy spill</div>
4707<div>On all these burning hearts in hell</div>
4708<div>If it be your will</div>
4709<div>To make us well</div>
4710<div>And draw us near</div>
4711<div>And bind us tight</div>
4712<div>All your children here</div>
4713<div>In their rags of light</div>
4714<div>In our rags of light</div>
4715<div>All dressed to kill</div>
4716<div>And end this night</div>
4717<div>If it be your will</div>
4718<div>If it be your will.”</div>
4719<div>-Leonard Cohen</div>
4720<div>31 03 2007</div>
4721<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(11:06:42)</span> :</span></div>
4722<div>Lovely.</div>
4723<div>Namaste you are so full of beauty. Leonard Cohen btw is one of my favorite poets. Thank you for this it was a</div>
4724<div>wonderful way to wake up this morning.</div>
4725<div>I hope you have a beautiful day.</div>
4726<div>Hazel.</div>
4727<div>31 03 2007</div>
4728<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(21:56:36)</span> :</span></div>
4729<div>Thank You Bernadette for your lovely support. I take it as a sign that I am doing exactly what I need to be at this</div>
4730<div>moment in time. I mean to shake things up a bit, break through co<span></span>mplacent and sluggish minds. Resistance is a natural</div>
4731<div>part of the process, if I didn’t come up against it from time to <span></span>time, it wouldn’t be working for me.</div>
4732</div>
4733<p> </p>
4734</div>
4735<div>
4736<div>
4737<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4738<div>99 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4739<div>Hugs and lots of affection to you!</div>
4740<div>Hazel.</div>
4741<div>12 04 2007</div>
4742<div>Lee<span> <span>(20:51:36)</span> :</span></div>
4743<div>Has this thread closed? No one has written in days.</div>
4744<div>12 04 2007</div>
4745<div>hazel8500</div>
4746<div><span>(23:28:42)</span> :</div>
4747<div>Hi Lee, still open. Guess not much going on at the moment.</div>
4748<div>Check back soon, or I can leave you a comment here there are some<span></span> changes in the works for this thread. Can’t say</div>
4749<div>more just yet</div>
4750<div>13 04 2007</div>
4751<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
4752<p> </p>
4753<div>(09:53:26)<span> :</span></div>
4754<div>Hi Lee and Hazel,</div>
4755<div>I would strongly support a new thread devoted to an outreach effort (multi-linqual ?) to reach other GPD targets. I feel</div>
4756<div>convinced of an underlying truth of his rants to me about his und<span></span>erground life. Putting together our collective research</div>
4757<div>resources to trace his comings and goings among his frequent trip<span></span>s which parallel many well know sex trade/human</div>
4758<div>trafficking portals may ultimately lead to some break in many ope<span></span>n cases that correlate to his travels.</div>
4759<div>There are deep pockets behind keeping this quiet and in hoping th<span></span>at interest will die out.</div>
4760<div>His life seems to me a bit like a giant 1 million piece jigsaw. E<span></span>ach of us has only a subset of the pieces. He purposely</div>
4761<div>lived his life that way. I do think that rather than blindly “mov<span></span>ing on” it is worth some perserverence on our parts as</div>
4762<div>survivors of this confusing whirlwind of a man to be committed to<span></span> the big picture and solving the puzzles that we can.</div>
4763<div>Aloha,</div>
4764<div>HE</div>
4765<div>15 04 2007</div>
4766<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(07:28:10)</span> :</span></div>
4767<div>Dear Hazel,</div>
4768<div>I just did a “Google” search for “Daniel Dubie” and I notice that<span></span> all the previous word.press hits are now scrubbed</div>
4769<div>and come up with a word.press page saying:</div>
4770<div>“Tag: Daniel Dubie</div>
4771<div>Sorry, we don’t have any posts here with that tag. You may want to try one of the sites below.”</div>
4772<div>Unless a web searcher knew of this particular site it doesn’t app<span></span>ear that:</div>
4773<div>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-mu<span></span>rder-charge-in-thailand/</div>
4774<div>it could be found by Google search with “Daniel Dubie”. It does come up by “George Patrick Dubie”. But he did not</div>
4775<div>use his legal name with many of his targets.</div>
4776<div>Others out there looking for information on “Daniel Dubie” can fi<span></span>nd thaivisa and findkristen and the chiang mai</div>
4777<div>update word.press but not this thread.</div>
4778<div>Do you know why this is? It seems to undermine the whole freedom <span></span>of information exchange that is the strength of</div>
4779<div>the</div>
4780<div>www.</div>
4781</div>
4782<p> </p>
4783</div>
4784<div>
4785<div>
4786<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4787<div>100 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4788<div>Bernadette was able to find this thread and learn about his well <span></span>developed behaviour patterns. I would hope that this</div>
4789<div>rich thread remains an available resource for others who may be p<span></span>rompted to search for answers.</div>
4790<div>Aloha,</div>
4791<div>HE</div>
4792<div>28 04 2007</div>
4793<div>Dennis Mahon</div>
4794<div><span>(23:33:30)</span> :</div>
4795<div>Looking for any information relating to Daniel Dubie’s contact wi<span></span>th Jon Onuma aka Jade Yoshino and their possible</div>
4796<div>involvement with Kristen Modafferi.</div>
4797<div>www.findkristen.com.<span> Does anyone know a gal named Mirabel who stayed at</span></div>
4798<div>Dubie’s North Shore Estate? In no way is she a suspect. No..not at all. I would like to speak with her as she was</div>
4799<div>supposedly working as a Nanny at Dubie’s estate and I am told she<span></span> grew tired of his nonsense and left. If anyone can</div>
4800<div>contribute any info at all - we would really be grateful. Thanks…Dennis</div>
4801<div>Mahon/CharlotteNC/dennismahon@yahoo.com/704-307-1066 (cell) or 70<span></span>4-499-8480</div>
4802<div>29 04 2007</div>
4803<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(10:10:54)</span> :</span></div>
4804<div>Hello Dennis, I have to dig through some stuff, but this story do<span></span>es ring a bell with me.</div>
4805<div>In the meantime I am glad you’ve found this thread I do feel ther<span></span>e is a connection to Kristen’s disappearance and</div>
4806<div>Dubie. Well I guess thats no secret now that we know about Jon’s <span></span>involvement and his relationship to Dubie.</div>
4807<div>I’ve been receiving correspondence politely requesting I take dow<span></span>n this thread and information for the sake of</div>
4808<div>Dubie’s children.</div>
4809<div>But I can’t.</div>
4810<div>I can’t because of all the other people’s children who are missin<span></span>g.</div>
4811<div>Thank you mr. Mahon for everything you have been doing for the families of the missing Kristen’s. I hope they are</div>
4812<div>reunited soon.</div>
4813<div>Sincerely, Hazel.</div>
4814<div>29 04 2007</div>
4815<div>hazel8500</div>
4816<p> </p>
4817<div>(10:15:42)<span> :</span></div>
4818<div>Hawaiian Eye’s, thank you for the info.</div>
4819<div>I’ve added the following tags and terms to this blog for SEO’s to<span></span> pick up</div>
4820<div>Margaret Crane</div>
4821<div>Jeanna Hart</div>
4822<div>George Patrick Dubie.</div>
4823<div>This should improve the thread’s ranking for people who are searc<span></span>hing for info.</div>
4824<div>I’ll check back in 24 hours to make sure its working.</div>
4825<div>I’ve got a few other things up my sleeve as well, I’ll post as i <span></span>implement.</div>
4826<div>29 04 2007</div>
4827<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(13:24:58)</span> :</span></div>
4828<div>Did anyone see this yet? It was posted February 2007.</div>
4829</div>
4830<p> </p>
4831</div>
4832<div>
4833<div>
4834<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4835<div>101 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4836<div>So I’m a little late on the uptake, sorry.</div>
4837<div>There has been an anonymous tip to Dennis Mahon regarding the Kri<span></span>sten Modaferri case.</div>
4838<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DHSGwQYsU</div>
4839<div>Dennis Mahon has been actively pursuing leads in the disappearanc<span></span>e of the Modaferri’s daughter which have brought</div>
4840<div>him to a close associate of GPDubie Jon Onuma.</div>
4841<div>More at Dennis Mahon’s site here</div>
4842<div>http://www.findkristen.com/</div>
4843<div>1 05 2007</div>
4844<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(09:54:32)</span> :</span></div>
4845<div>Hi Dennis,</div>
4846<div>I think the Robin Sharan may know of the nannies that were at the<span></span> Pupukea “ranch” during that time period. Perhaps</div>
4847<div>you could write to her at the Annapurna healing center. She wrote<span></span> into this thread wiht very honest and insightful</div>
4848<div>comments.</div>
4849<div>I would not put too much stock in the names used though since GPD<span></span> had a real penchant for having those close to him</div>
4850<div>use various aliases. So perhaps she went by Mirabel or Annabelle <span></span>(the later sounds vaguely familiar to me) or another</div>
4851<div>name.</div>
4852<div>Kristen’s disappearance predates the purchase of the Pupukea comp<span></span>ound so I feel a bit concerned about the credibility</div>
4853<div>of the claim of seeing her personal items there. I think that the<span></span> best information to be gone after is the flight records</div>
4854<div>from GPD’s travels to Mexico and Central/South America. I know th<span></span>e assistant to Geri and Daniel at that time left</div>
4855<div>Hawaii in terror at about the time I was taking legal actions aga<span></span>inst him. She would be very helpful if she were found</div>
4856<div>now that he is deceased. I think that there are still folks terro<span></span>rized by those two into silence that may remain fearful of</div>
4857<div>retribution by Geri herself despite the death of GPD.</div>
4858<div>It is a tough problem– finding those with deep inside knowledge t<span></span>hat are willing to come forward and share the pieces</div>
4859<div>of this puzzle. If Geri and Jeanna were culpably involved, it would not be in their interest at all to share this.</div>
4860<div>His genius for finding authentic loyal women to surround himself <span></span>with (making sure that they never found out that</div>
4861<div>they were one of many “Love of my life” ladies) and hide behind complicates it even further because even after death</div>
4862<div>they would naturally want to defend his reputation.</div>
4863<div>I remain committed to the long game here and I am optimistic that<span></span> the walls of his evil empire will crumble piece by</div>
4864<div>piece. Evil and lies and deceit led to his violent end and I rema<span></span>in horrified that he was able to suck me into that world</div>
4865<div>and abuse me so badly for so long. Having seen all that I did I f<span></span>eel convinced that there are worse hidden actions and</div>
4866<div>that we should not walk away but keep working at this in an abidi<span></span>ng spirit of love and truth.</div>
4867<div>Aloha,</div>
4868<div>HE</div>
4869<div>3 05 2007</div>
4870<div>goneaway</div>
4871<p> </p>
4872<div>(12:49:00)<span> :</span></div>
4873<div>I’va questioned this before, but want to ask again.. is there any<span></span>way to get Jeannie(Margaret) to talk about Dubies</div>
4874<div>dealings (we all know she knows a lot) in exchange for a lighter <span></span>sentence?</div>
4875<div>Dennis, have you looked into that?</div>
4876<div>If she talked about all the crap, in exchange for a lighter sente<span></span>nce, all would benefit!!!!!!!</div>
4877</div>
4878<p> </p>
4879</div>
4880<div>
4881<div>
4882<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4883<div>102 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4884<div>4 05 2007</div>
4885<div>hawaiianeyes</div>
4886<div><span>(09:12:14)</span> :</div>
4887<div>Hi Goneaway,</div>
4888<div>I talked to perhaps her “number one advocate”- Julia Jus from Chi<span></span>ang Mai. She came to Hawaii and we had dinner. I</div>
4889<div>left that night feeling that either Julia genuinely does not know<span></span> about misdeeds of “Jeannie” or that she is so close to</div>
4890<div>her as to want to project the same abused woman front. There was <span></span>not a single moment of doubt from her about</div>
4891<div>Margaret although she said that she had not been that close to he<span></span>r before the murder but after the murder had felt a</div>
4892<div>real calling to swoop in and give her all for the sake of the chi<span></span>ldren.</div>
4893<div>I think that Jeannie, Geri, and maybe Felicia and perhaps even Sy<span></span>lvie do “know where the bodies are buried” so to</div>
4894<div>speak. IF one or more of these women will never speak up out of f<span></span>ear of their own culpability or to follow his central</div>
4895<div>command as he drilled in to me “KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT” then there <span></span>are still ways to break through the walls</div>
4896<div>of this dark fortress of deciet.</div>
4897<div>One idea would be to go after women who facilitated his misdeeds <span></span>criminally or civilly. I do not know of the laws in</div>
4898<div>BC but if you were witness to her abuse in Canada perhaps you could file complaint against her and advocate that</div>
4899<div>Canadian authorities prosecute criminal negligence or obstruction<span></span> of justice. This seems to be perhaps rather cruel -to</div>
4900<div>take legal action against a person being held for murder in anoth<span></span>er country (whom we seem collectively to feel</div>
4901<div>deserves some type of consideration due to the fact of having young children) BUT it is very wierd and disturbing</div>
4902<div>that she approached you and Bernadette in a shopping mall. She ve<span></span>ry well could have been involved in Kristen’s</div>
4903<div>shopping mall disappearence and other unsolved crimes from Hawaii<span></span>.</div>
4904<div>I think that those of here now on this thread have a collective p<span></span>ower that we should not underestimate. Our patient</div>
4905<div>persistent voice can create pressure to advocate for truth and ju<span></span>stice even if those left holding the bag(s of money)</div>
4906<div>want us to hurry up and “move on”. There are scars left on me tha<span></span>t will last a lifetime. I lost twins, nearly my life and</div>
4907<div>my mind. Others lost everything.</div>
4908<div>Did Kristen loose her life? Is she in Central America, Tulum….</div>
4909<div>I advocated that she be offered immunity from Thai prosecution in<span></span> exchange for complete testimony about GPD. Julia</div>
4910<div>says that her case has attracted high level royal Thai interest i<span></span>n mercy and that she has been told to wait until Jan 08 at</div>
4911<div>which time her case will be rather quietly dealt with with minor <span></span>outcomes of some years of Thai prison at which point</div>
4912<div>she may very likely be turned over to Canadian authorities. If th<span></span>is were to occur at that point pending actions against</div>
4913<div>her in Canada could be braought forward. All this is a rather lon<span></span>g process but the crimes that could be solved are</div>
4914<div>themselves over 10 years old– at what point would Kristen’s paren<span></span>ts “move on”? Obviously never so I feel that those</div>
4915<div>of us who have been victimized or witnesses, should not walk away<span></span> either. Thank you Goneaway for your voice and</div>
4916<div>your drive to address the crimes you witnessed against young chil<span></span>dren. If you are able to file some type of action I</div>
4917<div>wonder if Bernadette could provide written testimony about Jeanni<span></span>e’s involvement in her “recruitment” I have</div>
4918<div>another police report from another woman with a similar story. I <span></span>know first hand about child neglect here and I know</div>
4919<div>another HI woman who also witnessed first hand this neglect over <span></span>the course of years. So that is (without trying too</div>
4920<div>hard to look) 5 potential witnesses to her accessory to fraud/chi<span></span>ld neglect-endangerment. If we do nothing, we are</div>
4921<div>facilitating this darkness to some degree. I do not want to leave<span></span> any avenue untried in my drive to battle this “evil</div>
4922<div>empire” of fraud, addiction to power and control that cost the li<span></span>ves of the most vulnerable.</div>
4923<div>Aloha,</div>
4924<div>HE</div>
4925<div>8 05 2007</div>
4926<div>kari davis/specialk<span> <span>(03:07:30)</span> :</span></div>
4927<div>Hi all, please keep this blog going……. as a mother of three of du<span></span>bie;s kids, I can tell you this is important for all info</div>
4928<div>to come out. I pray that those that know more about the missing w<span></span>oman, Kristen will do the right thing and help this</div>
4929<div>family find their child. There is nothing worse than having a chi<span></span>ld taken from you. Maggie and Syvie were involved</div>
4930<div>in keeping my daughter, Calista, away from me for over six years.<span></span> I know they must have information that they are</div>
4931</div>
4932<p> </p>
4933</div>
4934<div>
4935<div>
4936<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4937<div>103 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4938<div>not sharing. Please do the right thing and help.. Kari</div>
4939<div>8 05 2007</div>
4940<div>kari davis/specialk<span> <span>(03:30:01)</span> :</span></div>
4941<div>I know that Sylvie Bertin aka patti, mother of Felicia, shawn, Ka<span></span>lina and one more, was also met at a mall in Quebec</div>
4942<div>City. She was told that Dubie was a movie producer or director an<span></span>d he was making a movie about single working</div>
4943<div>women. He was helped by Sarada. Dubie needed a new angel to help him take care of my daughter Calista.</div>
4944<div>8 05 2007</div>
4945<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(08:32:30)</span> :</span></div>
4946<div>Hello Karin, thank you for your support and everything else. I’m so sorry to hear you and Calista were separated for</div>
4947<div>so long. I don’t understand how any woman could be complicit in k<span></span>eeping another woman’s child from her.</div>
4948<div>9 05 2007</div>
4949<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(02:15:23)</span> :</span></div>
4950<div>Hi Kari,</div>
4951<div>Was Maggie ever directly prosecuted for her involvement as an acc<span></span>essory to the felony of kidnapping your daughter?</div>
4952<div>There is no statute of limitation on felony. I do not know but I <span></span>would think that your case involving international</div>
4953<div>flight and the extrodinary horror of long years of duration of the kidnapping would make this case especially strong.</div>
4954<div>Perhaps your pursuit of this type of action could provide the leverage to pressure Maggie to give complete testimony</div>
4955<div>of GPD actions over her 20 + years “aiding and abetting” in exchange for immunity?</div>
4956<div>This is all quite speculative on my part. Please forgive my ignor<span></span>ance but I think that it is very likely that if nothing is</div>
4957<div>pursued by any of us with knowledge of various aspects of this, that this case will be forgotten and Maggie may very</div>
4958<div>well receive clemency and “keep [her] mouth shut” living out the <span></span>rest of her life in silence on this topic.</div>
4959<div>I do hope that she can be restored to her children and an honest <span></span>life but this cannot happen by silence. Each of us who</div>
4960<div>has been in his world has had to walk away and speak up in order to be free of the chains of his intricate deceptions.</div>
4961<div>In her letter to me in Jan, I did not see her doing that. She sim<span></span>ply blamed him for being abusive and asked for me to</div>
4962<div>believe in her. I believe that GPD was abusive but I do not belie<span></span>ve he could act alone. I think that we each had a point</div>
4963<div>at which we really saw what was happening and could walk/run out. I do not believe that she could not have had that</div>
4964<div>realization in over 25 years and especially given all the stories<span></span> of women she seemingly entrapped.</div>
4965<div>Aloha,</div>
4966<div>HE</div>
4967<div>9 05 2007</div>
4968<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(06:46:18)</span> :</span></div>
4969<div>Hello everyone, Hawaiian Eyes and I have a new blog devoted to one subject, this one.</div>
4970<div>I’d like to invite you all to visit contribute, discuss - what ev<span></span>er you feel comfortable doing.</div>
4971<div>http://gpdubie.wordpress.com/</div>
4972<div>Sincerely</div>
4973<div>Hazel.</div>
4974<div>10 05 2007</div>
4975<div>Lee<span> <span>(21:13:08)</span> :</span></div>
4976</div>
4977<p> </p>
4978</div>
4979<div>
4980<div>
4981<div>Victoria woman faces murder charge in Thailand « hazel8500<span> </span>http://hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/08/03/victoria-woman-faces-murd...</div>
4982<div>104 of 111<span> </span>5/23/2007 1:17 PM</div>
4983<div>Hello Hazel,</div>
4984<div>I’m happy to see that there is another site on this topic. I am c<span></span>omputer challenged and can’t figure out how to “login”</div>
4985<div>to that I may post a comment.</div>
4986<div>Mahalo for your help!</div>
4987<div>Lee</div>
4988<div>10 05 2007</div>
4989<div>Lee<span> <span>(21:24:40)</span> :</span></div>
4990<div>Hi Hazel,</div>
4991<div>I have some information to give to Hawaiianeyes. Is there a way f<span></span>or me to contact her?</div>
4992<div>Namaste,</div>
4993<div>Lee</div>
4994<div>11 05 2007</div>
4995<div>kari davis/specialk<span> <span>(12:04:05)</span> :</span></div>
4996<div>Hi, my friend A (hawaiianeyes) No, I never charged Maggie or George with kiddnapping. I was contacted by Child</div>
4997<div>finds “a way out” program, which is a way for the abducting paren<span></span>t a safe way to return the child without fear of</div>
4998<div>prosecution. We communicated through a medeator named, Patrick Fe<span></span>ar, he told me that George was willing to give</div>
4999<div>me back Calista if I never pressed my own charges against him. He<span></span> thought that him being in hiding for 7 years that</div>
5000<div>the statute of limitaions would be gone and that he could return <span></span>to a life not on the run. So, after three long days of</div>
5001<div>mediation, I had Calista returned to me. I had to choose a place <span></span>at least an hour away from my home and come alone</div>
5002<div>and not get the police involved. I chose under the space needle, <span></span>noon on August 5 1988. There before me I saw</div>
5003<div>Maggie holding the hand of a much older Calista then the 2 year o<span></span>ld she was when taken from me. I had the fear that</div>
5004<div>they would try and fool me yet again, with maybe trying to kiddna<span></span>pp me or even try and give me another persons</div>
5005<div>child, but, there was not a doubt that this was my daughter. Magg<span></span>ie stayed with me for a couple of days then and</div>
5006<div>tryed to convince me that George had changed and had been good for all those years on the run and hoped that I</div>
5007<div>would help him clear his name from his warrants in Hawaii. I know<span></span> if I were able to talk directly with Maggie, I</div>
5008<div>would know if she were holding back info and still just trying to<span></span> save her own butt. I wish I could get a chance to</div>
5009<div>speak with her. Do you all think this is possible??? Let me know. Sincerely, Kari</div>
5010<div>13 05 2007</div>
5011<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(09:52:05)</span> :</span></div>
5012<div>Hi Lee, sorry for the confusion, I’ve put together a</div>
5013<div>faq</div>
5014<div>on how to join the discussion. Which is actually waiting to get s<span></span>tarted in earnest!</div>
5015<div>This is a new venture for me so I hope to iron out the bugs as we<span></span> go along. If you have any further questions by all</div>
5016<div>means contact me directly at hazel8500 at hotmail</div>
5017<div>Also, I passed on your request to HE, shouldn’t be long before you hear back.</div>
5018<div>13 05 2007</div>
5019<div>hazel8500</div>
5020<p> </p>
5021<div>(09:56:20)<span> :</span></div>
5022<div>Hi Kari,</div>
5023<div>I am so glad you got Calista back, I’m grateful for the program c<span></span>hild find as you’ve described them here but think its</div>
5024<div>terrible that a child could be used as a bargaining chip like tha<span></span>t, we’ll give her back if… Whatever the case, just that</div>
5025<div>you got her back is very hopeful to other mothers going through s<span></span>imilar situations.</div>
5026<div>As for your question about it being possible to talk to Maggie, I<span></span> think it might be.</div>
5027</div>
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5034<div>I know she receives visitors for short periods and I know she is <span></span>receiving and sending correspondence. How you</div>
5035<div>would be able to get visitation or letters to her, i’m not sure. <span></span>Maybe someone else may have a suggestion on that?</div>
5036<div>PS I hope you have a wonderful mothers day.</div>
5037<div>15 05 2007</div>
5038<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(06:05:00)</span> :</span></div>
5039<div>Hi Lee,</div>
5040<div>I think that by continuing to discuss the hundreds of little deta<span></span>ils that make up our collective experience we can make</div>
5041<div>progress.</div>
5042<div>One strikingly consistent observation is Maggie’s role in facilit<span></span>ating GPD’s various cons and plans.</div>
5043<div>Do you know anything about his California travels? Does anyone know where and when he was shot (decades before</div>
5044<div>his death). He showed me a scar and said that it was a bullet wou<span></span>nd. He claimed it was from helping UNICEF</div>
5045<div>children in Palestine during an attack from Israel. He also claim<span></span>ed to have been electrocuted in Australia while</div>
5046<div>directing a film project and that he had been in a coma for month<span></span>s after being electocuted and falling 30 ft.</div>
5047<div>Does anyone know his contacts in SanFrancisco? Does Francesca De Grandis (formerly went by the last name Dubie)</div>
5048<div>have a connection to GPD?</div>
5049<div>http://www.well.com/user/zthirdrd/</div>
5050<div>I wrote to her 4 years ago to ask and recieved a very angry response.</div>
5051<div>I do not know that we can solve Kristen’s case. But I think that <span></span>there is certainly alot of evil that we could collectively</div>
5052<div>shed light on.</div>
5053<div>Aloha,</div>
5054<div>HE</div>
5055<div>15 05 2007</div>
5056<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(06:26:36)</span> :</span></div>
5057<div>Hi Kari,</div>
5058<div>It is very heartbreaking to read of his bargaining. He also used <span></span>civil mediation to get me to renounce pursuing</div>
5059<div>criminal prosecution for a felony he committed against me that he<span></span> admitted in the mediation documents. I later found</div>
5060<div>out from the FBI that this mediation agreement was meaningless in<span></span> the eyes of State and Federal Laws. A felony is a</div>
5061<div>crime that the perpetrator commits that is punishible by the Stat<span></span>e or Federal courts. The victim NEVER losses the</div>
5062<div>right to report felony acts to State or Federal authorities. If t<span></span>he State or Federal government chooses to it will</div>
5063<div>prosecute and State of Hawaii vs GPD etc.</div>
5064<div>So I think that you still have a case. Despite the mediation. Any<span></span>way I don’t suppose you ever agreed to give Maggie</div>
5065<div>any protection. I think it is worth pursuing.</div>
5066<div>I hope you can contact Dennis Mahon.</div>
5067<div>dennismahon@yahoo.com</div>
5068<div>704-519-6832</div>
5069<div>He seems to be very interested in going to Chiang Mai to talk to <span></span>Maggie directly also. I don’t know if you would</div>
5070<div>consider going to Thailand. There is an address to write to Maggi<span></span>e but it sounded like you felt you would need to see</div>
5071<div>her in person.</div>
5072<div>Aloha,</div>
5073<div>HE</div>
5074<div>15 05 2007</div>
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5082<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(08:50:22)</span> :</span></div>
5083<div>HE</div>
5084<div>Something about the name Fransesca De Grandis is very familiar.</div>
5085<div>I googled her, check this link out</div>
5086<div>http://www.well.com/user/zthirdrd/vita.html</div>
5087<div>She talks about a seven year apprentice - ship to become a “fairy<span></span>” sort of rings a bell, re: the story relayed by Mr.</div>
5088<div>Ingraham about his apprenticeship to become a “warrior” by Dubie.</div>
5089<div>http://www.findkristen.com/34.html#anchor_7</div>
5090<div>Off to look at more stuff.</div>
5091<div>Yes HawaiianEyes, Francesca did go by Dubie, here’s an entry from the wiccan web</div>
5092<div>http://www.wiccanweb.ca/wiki/index.php/Feri_Tradition</div>
5093<div>Another breakaway line is the Third Road school, led and taught b<span></span>y Francesca Dubie/De Grandis. Francesca claims</div>
5094<div>that: “I completed a rigorous and rare seven-year training with V<span></span>ictor Anderson, to become a Celtic shaman, by being</div>
5095<div>adopted into Victorís family which had kept the old ways — also c<span></span>alled Faerie Tradition — intact.” The Third Road</div>
5096<div>Tradition is regarded as a Feri-derived tradition, as is Pictish-<span></span>Elven Witchcraft.</div>
5097<div>15 05 2007</div>
5098<div>hazel8500<span> <span>(08:56:26)</span> :</span></div>
5099<div>Wow, check this out there’s a “war” going on between fairy factio<span></span>ns, oh this is too rich!</div>
5100<div>She said:</div>
5101<div>http://www.outofthedark.com/Plagiarized/Francesca_De_Grandis.html</div>
5102<div>He Said:</div>
5103<div>http://www.outofthedark.com/Plagiarized/</div>
5104<div>I’d be rotflmao except for one thing, I’ve been plagued by the fo<span></span>otsteps of some maniac calling himself Bill W. for</div>
5105<div>some time now.??? WTF?</div>
5106<div>15 05 2007</div>
5107<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(10:33:47)</span> :</span></div>
5108<div>Hi Hazel,</div>
5109<div>Yes GPD gave me lots of books on Shamanism and talked about exten<span></span>sive spiritual training. He claimed to have gone</div>
5110<div>thru budhist training, an ashram, and deep training in shaminism <span></span>as well as an Hawaii cultural version of that. He built</div>
5111<div>shrines and showed me how he took things of personal value to bui<span></span>ld the shrines. He felt that the world was his and</div>
5112<div>that “the universe supports me” . He made all kinds of crazy bets<span></span> and predictions to prove his power. It freaked him</div>
5113<div>out though that I constantly had dreams that came true. This type<span></span> of intuition or whatever is no parlor trick and he</div>
5114<div>couldn’t explain it, escape it, or shut me down. So I think that <span></span>all his so call Shamanistic power trip was basically</div>
5115<div>extreme manipulations.</div>
5116<div>I have never wanted to get too far into these fringe groups. I have a very grounded career based in extremely objective</div>
5117<div>reasoning. Still even in that I listen to my instincts and often <span></span>find connections others in the field missed. I do not think</div>
5118<div>that this is “psychic” or magic. I think it is just living life w<span></span>ith eyes wide open, being thouroughly present, taking time</div>
5119<div>to listen to the quiet signals we may overlook. In this way I bus<span></span>ted him on his brain tumor fraud, his embezzelments,</div>
5120<div>etc etc etc.</div>
5121<div>He told me that Geri was a very powerful “good witch” and that th<span></span>ey practiced this together. If that is true that is very</div>
5122<div>sad indeed. Especially now that apparently she is on the warpath <span></span>to reclaim all “her” assets. I think it is very strange</div>
5123<div>how GPD, Jeana and Geri were for years untouchable and arrogant and now all suffer horrors that perhaps they</div>
5124<div>geniunely felt above.</div>
5125</div>
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5132<div>HE</div>
5133<div>15 05 2007</div>
5134<div>kari davis/specialk<span> <span>(23:15:52)</span> :</span></div>
5135<div>Hi HE. He used to use his scars, back in my day, to either say he was in a hang-gliding accident ( it never happened)</div>
5136<div>and also that they were sign of the cruxificition, like Stigmata.<span></span> I know most scars were from coral reefs while he was</div>
5137<div>surfing. He was never shot that I know of. His favorite lies were of his ill health, this was always to get sympathy, I’m</div>
5138<div>sure you’ve all heard his woefull cries of pain,,,,,,,, either hi<span></span>s head was bleeding or his stomach was filling up with</div>
5139<div>blood or his kidneys were failing or brain fluid was ouzzing out,<span></span>,,etc.etc.etc. what a bunch of crock. Kari</div>
5140<div>16 05 2007</div>
5141<div>hawaiianeyes<span> <span>(09:29:08)</span> :</span></div>
5142<div>Hi Kari,</div>
5143<div>Yes he was forever suffering –”blood” in his stomach was one of his favorite horrorible maladies to claim. Another</div>
5144<div>dozy was his inoperable Brain tumor with CAT scan that I think Ma<span></span>ggie helped him fraudelently lift from a legitimate</div>
5145<div>“Doug’s Brain Tumor” site onto a bogus medical form for him to co<span></span>nvince Geri that he was dying. It would be funny</div>
5146<div>if he weren’t so good at it using that to propel his frauds!</div>
5147<div>Do you know who Francesca Dubie (now DeGrandis) is or her Shamanistic Faery stuff? He told me that he was</div>
5148<div>extensively trained in mystic arts by someone named Tom who put h<span></span>im through all kinds of exercises and tests in the</div>
5149<div>late 80’s early 90’s. Do you think that they could have been involved in this San Francisco mall disappearence of</div>
5150<div>Kristen? I ask because Dennis Mahon contacted me and is very eager to follow up any California links.</div>
5151<div>Aloha,</div>
5152<div>HE</div>
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