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1Mormon Leaks 
2Title:	In Which They Fret Over Science and Worldly Morals
3LDS title:	Have We No Conscience?
4Recorded:	6/11/2008
5Length:	8:02
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7Transcript
8English (Automatic Captions)
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100:02	good afternoon how we no conscience
110:09	coming over the horizon beginning to the evidence but not entirely visible as an
120:16	emerging debate it centers on what call some call the science of moral sense
130:22	these three articles seem at first unrelated a new york times article the
140:30	moral instinct a psychology journal article Buddhist and psychological
150:35	perspectives on emotions and well-being and then inside lead article the light
160:40	of Christ all three teach moral conscience and that should be a warning
170:45	to us to be aware of what the called science of moral sense proposes first
180:52	proposition descriptively the science of moral sense says quote moral intuitions
190:59	are being drawn out of people in the lab on websites in brain scanners are being
201:05	examined and explain with tools from game theory neuroscience and
211:10	evolutionary biology second proposition prescriptive Lee quote the science of
221:17	moral sense can advance morality understanding proposition one may help
231:24	us counter the basic contradiction inherent in proposition to some say
241:31	moralization switch employees distinctive mindsets which differentiate
251:36	for example that which is immoral killing that which is disagreeable say
261:41	Brussels sprouts that which is unfashionable say bell-bottoms and that
271:47	which is simply imprudent don't scratch mosquito bites clinicians same or all
281:52	feeling often comes first followed by rational explanation that is feeling
291:58	first then some other kind of rationalization moral psychologist
302:03	conducted web experiments involving two hundred thousand individuals in a
312:08	hundred countries they found that that broad range of people share five basic
322:14	moral norms harm that is it's bad to harm others and good to help them
332:20	fairness is good to read
342:22	deprecated favors report reward benefactors and punish cheaters loyalty
352:28	to group or community respect for authority and purity I'm glad a wicked
362:34	world cannot extinguish a moral attraction to purity current research
372:40	suggests preschoolers early distinguished societal convention from
382:44	moral principle four-year-old say it's not okay to wear pajamas to school
392:49	well most of us would consider a societal convention and also it's not
402:53	okay to hit a little girl for more reach for no reason what we would consider a
412:58	moral principle if we ask the same preschoolers say the principle allows
423:03	you to wear pajamas or allows you to hit the little girl with these actions then
433:09	be okay
443:10	most children say if the principles allowed them it would then be okay to
453:15	wear pajamas to school that is okay to change the social convention but still
463:20	not okay to have a little girl for no reason rapidly advancing euro biology
473:26	biochemistry and gene therapy raised new opportunities and new questions for
483:33	example should church members consider using new drugs or gene therapy to break
493:38	addiction counter homosexuality help shy teen agers become more outgoing or
503:45	enhance student performance the question of students using performance-enhancing
513:49	drugs to concentrate during tests after studying all night is already here do
523:56	any such drugs contradict the word of wisdom another question will new
534:03	societal definitions of injured or impaired brain or moral functions invite
544:07	church handbook explanations or expectations regarding moral
554:12	accountability for example as they may be related to baptism church discipline
564:18	temple worthiness for those potentially affected and that like consider briefly
574:24	if you would please to real-life cases involving accountability after head
584:29	injury and stroke
594:31	the first involves the San Francisco Bay Area food plant manager
604:35	who ran a plant making delicious salami in a car accident he suffers head
614:41	injuries which everyone says leave him a slightly different person one day
624:46	inspectors find food safety violations at his plant places plant on probation
634:52	and say they will return to reinspect in a month when the food inspectors arrive
644:58	a month later the food plant managers indeed waiting for them
655:02	the plant manager kills the food inspectors according to a careful plan
665:06	the issue has the plant managers accident and head injury impaired his
675:13	moral judgment such that the jury should not hold him responsible for murder a
685:18	second case a grandfather serves as a church patriarch and is venerated in his
695:24	family and community he suffers a stroke which seems to leave him a slightly
705:30	different person one day the grandfather fondles a grandchild both a child and
715:36	the family are traumatized the issue has a church patriarchs the grandfather's
725:43	stroke and brain damage imperatives moral judgment such that he should be
735:48	count held accountable in a slightly or different way
745:51	in conclusion a co-op science of moral sense seems a contradiction it is worth
755:58	monitoring especially if it is used to explain away conscience the light of
766:03	Christ or the holy ghost case you're interested
776:08	the jury found the food plant manager guilty i don't know how the bishop and
786:12	stake president helped grandfather that's today's update hope you have a
796:18	wonderful week
806:21	Mansell Teddy Roosevelt was president had a list of what he called weasel
816:29	words that one word sexual meaning out of another you talk about the weasels
826:34	sucking the eighth and voluntary universal military conscription we want
836:42	and nothing yet listed this case scientists science and morality those
846:52	two words they they might go together but science has got a lot to learn first
856:56	you've got to at least admit that there's something spiritual and so any
867:04	other comment its timely that as as always Garrett so timely and up-to-date
877:10	but there's just a lot being written about this right now in the popular
887:14	press across a wide spectrum now the one subject in which the handbook currently
897:22	treats this there is some reference to the bishops making a judgment of whether
907:30	to baptize or ordained a mentally retarded child notice that with very few
917:40	exceptions and all of church administration the Lord has organized
927:44	presidencies three the president of two counselors and that's great insurance
937:52	against something like that
947:55	alright
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97Mormon Leaks 
98Title:	In Which They Fret Over Politics
99LDS title:	The 2008 Elections
100Recorded:	11/19/2008
101Length:	52:12
102
103Transcript
104English (Automatic Captions)
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1060:01	rather were fortunate today to have Dina David magal be with us he is the Dean of
1070:07	family home and Social Sciences College as well as the one of the founders and
1080:12	principles of the Center for the Study of elections and democracy at brigham
1090:17	young university is one of the few had to take a handful simply a single
1100:22	handful of the of the most important electoral analyst the United States Dave
1110:26	Maggie would have to be in that small handful he himself is also a an expert
1120:32	in what might be called director legislative democracy in fact is written
1130:37	a book on that subject looking at in fact issues of referenda and initiatives
1140:42	in California he's going to do an analysis today of some of the
1150:48	implications and the outcomes of the various elections that took place just
1160:52	two weeks ago himself in addition to all of his professional responsibilities is
1170:57	the he married well above himself i can attest to that personally marvelous
1181:03	woman served some some years on the general board of the the primary has
1191:08	four children he himself is a has served as a bishop and is a member of the stake
1201:14	presidency of the 19 steak single stake in brigham young university David it's
1211:20	wonderful to have you here
1221:21	Thank You other wood and I'm honored and humbled by this invitation and brother
1231:30	my understanding is that you may have questions I'd be happy to entertain
1241:34	those as we go so please don't hesitate the 2008 election was a remarkable event
1251:43	as elderwood and I were chatting about before we started for political
1261:46	scientists had so many interesting twists and turns that I'll share only
1271:52	some of them with you today we had an african-american nominee for the first
1281:58	time we had the oldest nominee of a major party we had a serious candidacy
1292:03	from a latter-day Saint Mitt Romney we very nearly had our first female on
1302:09	nominee for president in $YEAR senator Clinton it seemed to go on forever and
1312:15	indeed the protracted contest for the Democratic nomination meant for the
1322:20	first time in many many years all of the voters in that party were able to
1332:26	participate meaningfully in caucuses or in conventions or in primaries because
1342:32	they were a consequence and in some respects I think that provided Obama and
1352:36	his campaign with the infrastructure to broaden the electoral playing field as
1362:41	all described in a few minutes as is normal in a presidential election year
1372:46	much attention was focused on the contest for the White House but contests
1382:51	for the US Senate for the US House 411 governorships and for state legislatures
1392:58	and especially as we know very pointedly on statewide ballot initiatives provided
1403:03	a very dynamic and dramatic election season the statewide election in
1413:09	California on proposition 8 was a vote with national implications and is seen
1423:15	as such I think not only by members of our faith but by lots and lots of people
1433:21	around the world the poor state of the economy and unpopular war in iraq and a
1443:28	nominee that failed to generate much enthusiasm among Republican voters all
1453:32	work to the benefit of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party let's start by
1463:38	taking a look at turnout this chart plots overall turnout and i should say
1473:46	turn out with respect to specific sectors turnout overall was up slightly
1483:50	compared to $MONTH 2004 given the attention in the media it was expected
1493:55	that turnout might actually go up even more than it did a couple of points it
1504:01	didn't go up more than it did because it went up in some sectors and down in
1514:05	others as you can see here it was down for Republicans by nearly six percent
1524:11	overall by white voters by those ages 40 to 49 and by moderate voters in terms of
1534:19	young voters 18 to 24 it was
1544:22	up the same for Latino latino women and people of other races besides whites and
1554:29	latinos it was up by about two percent for Democrats the same for
1564:33	african-american and for those of no religion and up by about three percent
1574:37	for those who claim to be independent
1584:40	now these look like fairly small differences but in a context like 2008
1594:47	and given the numbers involved
1604:50	these were substantial differences and made a big difference in the overall
1614:55	result so for instance it was as i set up modestly for those 18 to 24 year old
1625:03	and Latino African Americans and so forth but in the context of proposition
1635:08	8 which we'll talk about a little later it made a huge difference for the yes
1645:12	side that turnout was up for some of these particular segments of voters now
1655:18	in terms of battle grounds as i said earlier the net effect of the long
1665:24	protracted primary and caucus season and a bold and ambitious plan to compete on
1675:30	a broader battlefield gave Democrats some opportunities that became quite
1685:35	important in the overall selection in $MONTH 2008 Obama was able to expand the
1695:41	battleground to include previously predictable Republican states like
1705:46	Virginia North Carolina Indiana colorado new mexico and nevada that meant that
1715:53	mccain had to play defense in those previously Republican or bush in 2000
1726:00	2004 victory states and also had to play aggressively to hold States the bush it
1736:06	carried like Ohio which is you can see is colored blue here Obama having won
1746:12	Ohio i should say that in my comments i'll become I'll be referring to some
1756:17	case studies that i'm looking at in 2008 and a project funded by the Pew
1766:21	Charitable Trusts since 1998 that foundation has funded research done at
1776:26	BYU that involves teams of academics in key competitive states
1786:32	in this election season we were in North Carolina Ohio New Hampshire Colorado and
1796:38	New Mexico all competitive presidential States but for the five at highly
1806:43	competitive senate elections and all of them also had competitive house
1816:47	elections in most of those states the Republicans had incumbent senators or
1826:54	incumbent house members whose races we were closely monitoring now the states
1836:58	that are colored in yellow are describing as these expanded
1847:02	battleground states and as you can see obama carried all of those that are
1857:07	colored in that way now you may wonder if I'm confused about Nebraska because
1867:13	part of it is colored battleground and part of it is not that's because
1877:17	nebraska and main alone in our 50 States allocate their electoral votes not
1887:24	winner-take-all statewide the winner-take-all by congressional
1897:28	district and then whoever wins the statewide vote gets the two US Senate
1907:32	votes and Senator Obama in fact carried that part of Nebraska colored there is
1917:38	battleground the Omaha area narrowly much as we've learned today he carried
1927:42	salt lake county narrowly a big part of the success of the Obama campaign was a
1937:50	widely dispersed and well-organized field operation in political terms when
1947:56	we talk about mobilizing voters registering voters communicating with
1958:00	voters we call that field work and in many ways in the seventies and eighties
1968:06	and nineties we shifted the campaign's being largely done on television and in
1978:11	the late nineteen nineties and into this decade the field has been rediscovered
1988:17	and the importance of personal contact much as we would know for missionary
1998:21	work face-to-face reinforced by mail and by phone is the way campaigns are now
2008:27	aged if any of us had been living in one of these battleground states we would
2018:32	have been besieged with mail and phone calls and robo calls sometimes receiving
2028:37	as many as 14 to 16 pieces of mail
2038:40	day in the three weeks leading up to the election that was true again in 2008 I
2048:46	was speaking with some consultants on both sides of the campaign last week in
2058:50	Washington and they mentioned that targeted populations for their group or
2068:54	party committee received as many as 60 different touches as they described it
2079:00	during the course of the general election campaign that was not
2089:04	necessarily exclusive of the Obama campaign they had their own operation
2099:09	and it was scalable and largely volunteer-based Obama for instance setup
2109:16	field offices throughout the battleground states to register voters
2119:20	to communicate with them and then to turn them out and turning out voters has
2129:25	become more complicated in 2008 because we have changed our voting rules
2139:30	gone are the days when we all vote on Election Day and the new mode for at
2149:35	least 30 states in $MONTH 2008 and i think the number will go up after 2008
2159:39	is early voting and absentee voting down somewhat differently in different states
2169:44	but in Colorado a battleground state as much as 75 percent of the vote was cast
2179:50	before election day either in early voting vote centers or bye-bye ballot as
2189:57	you know oregon was the leader in this innovation having shifted to an entirely
21910:02	vote by mail system Bob oh alright i thought i saw your hand go up apologies
22010:07	so what that means is the field operation of the campaigns including
22110:12	ballot proposition campaigns have to understand that the vote is being cast
22210:16	over a prolonged period it makes campaigns more expensive because you
22310:20	have to rise to the level of peak communications earlier and sustain them
22410:24	longer as voters are in fact deciding in their living rooms rather than in the
22510:29	ballot boxes
22610:31	the outcome was a popular vote majority for Obama 53-percent and while that
22710:37	sounds like a narrow victory it in fact is a much wider victory in the system
22810:42	designed by our founding fathers the electoral college where obama is
22910:46	projected to get sixty-eight percent of the electoral vote now the one state
23010:51	that was in dispute and I actually spoke to the staff here and had them color
23110:55	Missouri red was Missouri I think that's fair to say that that's almost certainly
23211:00	going to be a McCain state even though final votes are not official in in these
23311:05	states until they're certified his victory margin is wide enough that he
23411:12	can chart i think his own course if he wants to
23511:15	I was meeting with someone on 63 in Washington who pointed across the street
23611:20	at the afl-cio last week and this person has previously worked for the unions and
23711:26	he said the margin is wide enough that he can be his own man even respect with
23811:31	respect to them and pointed across the street to the headquarters of the
23911:35	afl-cio so I don't think he will have to accede to the wishes of any single
24011:40	interest group but i think he demonstrated in the campaign that is
24111:43	pretty savvy about building coalitions and he will choose his battles carefully
24211:48	before Election Day groups on both sides of the partisan divide we're talking
24311:54	about whether the Democrats would get to a 60-vote majority in the senate it
24412:00	takes 60 votes as you know foreclosure in the Senate and this number became
24512:05	important for both sides
24612:07	it became a target for the Democrats which was I think by all accounts our
24712:11	reach to have a net gain of nine seats would have been extraordinary especially
24812:16	on top of their net gain in the last cycle which put them barely into the
24912:20	majority going into this election the Senate was essentially tied 49 Democrats
25012:25	49 Republicans to independence who voted with the Democrats one of them as you
25112:31	know is Senator Lieberman the other socialist Barney Sanders from Vermont
25212:35	but those two independents gave harry reid the narrowest of margins 5149
25312:41	that's not going to be the case in the new Senate he has a lot more room to two
25412:47	lead and that margin could get to 60 votes is too soon to know the news is
25512:53	projecting that in Alaska which was one of the Senate races which had not been
25612:57	decided the the race is large and has likely not gone to ted stevens and so
25713:05	that would make the margin 58 240 as of today the two states that are not
25813:11	decided our Minnesota which has a razor-thin margin and will be decided
25913:18	and I think I recount mandated by state law in Minnesota and georgia which has
26013:23	an interesting provision federalism is still alive and well in our country
26113:26	state law determines how we elect US senators and in Georgia you have to get
26213:32	a majority to go to the Senate if you fall short of a majority of the votes
26313:36	cast then you go into a runoff and so Georgia will have a runoff on December
26413:41	second i think it is to determine who will occupy that Senate seat
26513:47	I think it's unlikely the Chambliss the incumbent senator from Georgia will lose
26613:53	so the marginal either be 5842 or 5941 not to the majority that the Democrats
26714:03	had hoped for in the republicans and their allied interest groups most
26814:06	notably the Chamber of Commerce of the united states were trying very hard to
26914:10	avoid newly elected senators include to you dolts tom udall from New Mexico and
27014:19	mark Udall in Colorado as well as que hagan in North Carolina Mark Warner in
27114:26	Virginia and jeff merkley who defeated latter-day Saint gordon smith in a very
27214:31	tight race in Oregon as of today the Democrats have a party advantage of
27314:39	about $OPERAND to 56 to 176 in favor of Democrats there are still three races by
27414:45	my count that are undecided too close to call that gives the Democrats a net gain
27514:50	of 20 seats it could go up from
27614:53	that they did this by picking up all 11 open seats
27714:59	those were switched from Republican to Democrat some hands but assuming they
27815:05	picked up 11 seats there are more open seats than that and those 11 went from
27915:08	Republican to Democrat 13 Republican incumbents were defeated and for
28015:13	Democratic incumbents were defeated it was not a good year for Republicans at
28115:18	the US Senate or the US House in US House races voters in three states cast
28215:27	ballots on same-sex marriage defining marriages of as between a man and a
28315:33	woman the California measure was the most contested and the outcome here the
28415:38	closest 52-percent voting yes the vote on on proposition 8 was not unlike the
28515:50	vote on Arizona's proposition 102 which had 56% voting yes and Florida's
28615:55	marriage amendment which passed with 62-percent going for it to show you some
28716:00	of the demographic trends that explain the slight differences but by far the
28816:05	california proposition was the most contested and became the focal point at
28916:11	initiatives have the potential to become agenda centers the classic example of
29016:16	this would be california's proposition 13 to reduce property taxes which was on
29116:21	the June 1978 ballot in California and spawned dozens of tax reduction measures
29216:28	in other states thereafter and so often a vote in a single state on an
29316:34	initiative becomes a bellwether for groups on both sides and by the way for
29416:39	legislative action it's pointed to as the borough has the marker for future
29516:44	action i believe that california's proposition 8 was playing that role for
29616:49	groups on both sides in 2008 and since the battles not over its being waged as
29716:55	you know and and
29816:56	in front of our temples and in many other places a possible future
29917:02	significance was a related vote in Arkansas that was a ban on gay couples
30017:09	from adopting children or serving as foster parents
30117:14	it passed with 57% voting yes my sense is that some in the interest group
30217:22	community will want to push this Arkansas measure onto the ballots of
30317:25	states like california and other states in the future there were also that it's
30417:36	important I think to talk a little bit about how people make up their minds on
30517:39	ballot initiatives this plots proposition 8 support over time from
30617:45	publicly available polls i suspect that some in this room will have had access
30717:49	to private polls that will show of a more finely grained variation in public
30817:55	opinion over time for subjects upon which voters have a firm and resolved
30918:02	opinion abortion same-gender marriage opinion tends to change less on many
31018:08	ballot propositions opinion changes rather dramatically the norm for those
31118:13	measures the ones upon which people have not formed opinions firmly yet is for
31218:18	them to start out about sixty percent support and then for that support to
31318:22	gradually diminish over time as the opposition campaign makes its case it
31418:29	makes its case by saying this will cost too much or it goes too far or it's
31518:33	unnecessary and so if you watch these across time and across States the
31618:40	general pattern is for the slope to be downwards from of from yes towards no
31718:46	overtime and the only question is the intercept of the election day will it
31818:51	happen at a point in which the downward slope is above or below fifty percent as
31918:55	you can see here that was not the case with proposition 8 if the vote has been
32019:00	cast at the start in may or june it would have failed fairly substantially
32119:07	the initial opinion
32219:10	on proposition 8 was not in favor of passage and that remains fairly true in
32319:15	the California pole and other media polls that i was able to access really
32419:20	until mid-september and then in mid-september this line changes and
32519:24	actually they cross paths here the no on 8 campaign kicked it into gear in early
32619:32	October with additional advertising fundraising and communication and they
32719:37	passed the s side towards the middle or end of october and in the last publicly
32819:42	available polls the margin was going to be fifty percent against forty-seven
32919:48	percent in favor the fact that was reversed is very unusual in my study of
33019:56	statewide ballot propositions the north side as I said rebounded to take the
33120:03	lead shortly before november fourth election day but in the end the
33220:07	initiative passed the side
33320:09	fifty-two percent of the vote a major reason for that passage is barack obama
33420:16	he and his campaign i describe this grassroots field operation of
33520:23	mobilization registration and activation turned out it extraordinary numbers of
33620:29	African American and Latino voters that was important in California because
33720:34	black voters voted seventy percent for proposition 8 and Latino voters voted
33820:42	53-percent if proposition 8 had only been decided by white and asian voters
33920:47	it would have failed 49-percent and forty-nine percent according to network
34020:52	exit polls so in an irony of of history the mobilization of of african-americans
34121:01	and Latinos was important in terms of composition of the California electorate
34221:06	in 2008 blacks constituted about ten percent that's up a couple of percent
34321:11	from 04 and 2000 and Latinos turned out at eighteen percent again up a percent
34421:20	or two from prior cycles
34521:22	White's as i said in the earlier slide were down $PERCENT nationally and they
34621:25	were down proportionately in California now it's interesting of course is the
34721:30	California was not a presidential battleground state Californians were not
34821:33	getting 17 pieces of mail a day in the presidential rice it did not have a
34921:37	highly contested Senate race the voters who would be the most marginal voters
35021:42	based upon education and experience would be these black and Latino voters
35121:47	they turned out because of an identification with a particular
35221:50	presidential candidate and while they're also voted YES on Proposition 8 in
35321:57	fairly large numbers i would say for african-americans very large numbers now
35422:02	I tried to estimate there are no numbers i know of that can give us a better
35522:06	number you may have numbers i would not estimate that LDS voters made up more
35622:11	than two two-and-a-half percent of the California electorate on november for it
35722:18	this race was not determined by latter-day Saint voters Catholics were
35822:24	important they were thirty percent of the votes and it's fair for you to know
35922:28	in the context of these other demographics that according to exit
36022:33	polls Catholics voted sixty-four percent on the yes side now possible interest to
36122:40	you would be some other ballot initiatives around the country as I said
36222:45	these tend to come and come again and again abortion was put on the ballot in
36322:51	three states it's been on the ballot in virtually re-election in one way or
36422:54	another either to limit it or to expand it
36522:57	the three measures that were on the ballot in $MONTH 2008 would have limited
36623:02	it further restricted it further in California would have required parental
36723:06	notification it went down
36823:09	forty-eight percent yes a majority voting note the flip side there four of
36923:14	the same gender marriage which makes it all the more interesting that the
37023:18	margins were that close
37123:20	Colorado's definition of a person initiative is a very interesting measure
37223:25	it defines a person person FS part per state law in Colorado should have passed
37323:31	as being a person from the moment of fertilization that's the language in the
37423:35	initiative or I assume conception and for all kinds of implications therefore
37523:39	would essentially outlaw abortion but create a set of other I think challenges
37623:44	to the political process in the medical profession perhaps it was very
37723:49	substantially defeated seventy-three percent voting assume he's sixty-three
37823:54	percent voting not only three percent voting though South Dakota had an
37923:59	abortion ban initiative it has had one previously that also failed 45% voting
38024:05	yes
38124:05	so these three measures that some would have considered also indicators of a
38224:10	conservative tied or a conservative movement all failed while same-gender
38324:15	marriage
38424:16	all in all three cases past questions about proposition 8 or the ballot
38524:23	initiatives generally before we turn to candidates and a bit about utah
38624:28	elections in two thousand question how much weight was put on the fact that the
38724:34	judges had erased the will of the people that wasn't a campaign theme and on the
38824:42	yes side especially and that's a real challenge president packer in terms of
38924:47	direct democracy and ballot initiatives because you know now we're going to be
39024:51	going back to the courts and the judges will be deciding again the courts have
39124:56	always been involved in adjudicating direct legislation direct democracy
39225:01	initiatives and referendums colleague of and a good friend of mine Jim Gordon and
39325:06	I teaches at the law school to an article years ago on pre-election
39425:10	judicial review of initiatives things like single-subject rule ballot
39525:15	signature solicitation processes and frankly this argument that's now come up
39625:20	about whether or not it needed to go to the legislature would have all been
39725:23	grounds for a pre-election judicial review and in Prior circumstances and
39825:28	judges have been willing to throw off the ballot measures that failed on some
39925:32	of those tests they also have been willing to declare unconstitutional
40025:36	state wide majority votes
40125:40	the classic example is
40225:42	a California ballot initiative about housing in 1964 the right at the open
40325:47	housing law the majority of Californians voted for that and the state Supreme
40425:53	Court and US supreme court reversed it saying that essentially the voters of
40525:57	California do not have the right to take away open housing that is blacks and
40626:02	asians can buy a house just like white people which was what does the subject
40726:07	of the open housing law had been in the california legislature on that basis I
40826:12	think it could be challenged both in state court and in federal court and I
40926:16	think it's likely going to be challenged all the way to the US Supreme Court well
41026:19	the same judgment be really in the state Supreme Court yes i'm not aware elder
41126:26	cook would probably know if there's been any change in this election cycle i
41226:29	don't think that any of them are up that were not returned to the state Supreme
41326:32	Court and understanding judges so it'll be the same judges even proposition 8
41426:37	was overturned by the judges cannot be appealed US Supreme Court yeah you my
41526:45	understanding is it could be because they could argue now whether the court
41626:48	would take the case would be going to get begin be at their discretion but I
41726:55	would assume the appellants would be able to make the case that the court
41826:57	over reached and that i think the supreme court gets to do whatever it
41927:02	wants to do on a matter like this but but that would test that
42027:06	yes add on the exit polling to the only one I could find it that night was a an
42127:13	election poll that an exit all that and it was a little over two thousand voters
42227:17	and and that's the one that had the seven percent Africans voting for it and
42327:23	I is there is there pretty good evidence that these exit polls on only only
42427:29	calling 2,000 people really give you the kind of assurance that the percentage of
42527:36	voters that were voting for something is along the lines that we we we've been
42627:41	talking about is we have a lot of confidence in those are is that well
42727:45	that's a good question
42827:47	I could follow up and we'll be happy to with a guy named Mark dicamillo who
42927:52	heads the field poll organization now when I was a grad student years ago mr.
43027:58	field himself was running it and and they probably have done some post
43128:01	election polling the answer to the short answer to you is often you can rely upon
43228:05	it the markers would be how did the overall volt projection for obama and
43328:10	mccain do and and how did they do it a couple of other places but they're
43428:15	frankly their demographic break out that i put up rings true compared to national
43528:22	data i'm pretty confident that they're within the margin of error now the
43628:27	challenge as mr. field himself would have told you having miss called the
43728:31	Bradley election the so-called Bradley effect that you were reading about in
43828:35	this election was Muirfield error because he had not factored in absentee
43928:40	voting that was the first major statewide election California and he had
44028:44	Election Day voting as he pointed out to me more than once and on Election Day
44128:48	Bradley one of people who voted now the challenge for pollsters is to know how
44228:53	many of these votes were early votes they have they have worked on methods to
44328:58	try and factor that in
44429:00	I suspect a lot of the african-american vote in this cycle in California was
44529:05	Election Day voting it ought to be mentioned that there was substantial
44629:09	money and resource that went from the coalition into the black and Hispanic
44729:15	communities that was very smart lot of money was spent there getting to them
44829:21	and their basic issue with blacks was they didn't see it as a civil right and
44929:27	that was a big issue to them some ways it offends them when it's it is if it
45029:32	demeans their struggle you know gays are not profiled in the same way that
45129:38	african-americans have been and
45229:39	they haven't been excluded from graduate schools and ask to drink water at a
45329:44	different fountain
45429:45	yes the resident you commented the Catholic little came out sixty percent
45529:52	in favor of offices proposition 8 yes was an LDS little feel taken so we know
45629:59	how to the LDS voted not in any of the other polling I've been able to get
45730:03	we're not a large enough demographic to have a breakout that they would report
45830:07	with statistical confidence so for example when I compared to California
45930:11	votes i gave you with Arizona and Florida back to other cooks question
46030:15	there wasn't a large enough and in the sample in Arizona or florida for me to
46130:19	do the same detailed demographic of agent and race and so forth there was a
46230:25	big enough and and the margins were wide enough and things like that Latinos and
46330:29	blacks the day and I am comfortable but I given the nature of the issue you
46430:37	would you would need to a much larger sample than 2,000 to get sufficient a
46530:41	latter-day saints in the in the random sample to do it but I think we can
46630:45	predict with some confidence that the latter-day Saint vote on this would have
46730:48	been well above the catholic vote the charge that i think is an unfair charges
46830:52	that mormons determine the outcome of this election they certainly didn't with
46930:57	their votes
47030:58	I think they were very important with their dollars in their volunteers some
47131:03	black activists are now saying that it's not fair because the black people did
47231:09	not understand what they were voting for trying to give you know that you picked
47331:14	up but yes i have picked up on that and I don't like this maybe again a divide
47431:18	between the activist and the permission or so to speak
47531:22	I i do think in many ways and african-americans and Latinos get it
47631:27	they are they are in these respects more conservative and very family-oriented
47731:33	and and you know they wouldn't want to go out of their way to be discriminatory
47831:39	towards any person in a wider range of cases but they don't know why they need
47931:44	to be able to play mary
48031:45	which has a right and they they don't see that as a civil right they see that
48131:49	as a religious question and frankly it's an area where their religion in both
48231:53	cases the Latinos in the blocks helps explain it i mean in some ways we could
48331:57	have put another demographic here which was a 10 church weekly or religion which
48432:00	are also in the exit polls and those markers . in the same direction so this
48532:06	is a some ways a vote of the church towards the unchurched the catholic vote
48632:09	in the Hispanics are largely Catholic so that's right Nancy percent that's right
48732:15	and I think that vote based upon what I've read about it swung a little bit
48832:18	later I think if we were to go back to the overtime chart some of that surge at
48932:23	the end i think was the word got out in that last week apparently quite
49032:29	effectively to Catholic that's what we were that's our private all show the
49132:33	same thing and that's where the work was being done
49232:37	elder anderson how we followed California Arizona quite closely can you
49332:41	explain at that wide margin in florida it better to is I suspect but I don't
49432:48	know again that the sample was not as informative there and I board down a
49532:52	little bit more on california but i think it's probably a strong evangelical
49632:56	vote there and it's a it's a state that is quite conservative so I died in some
49733:05	ways I think that was not a wise state for them to choose to do to make their
49833:11	bellwether if if I'd been advising them and obviously I wasn't I would
49933:15	originally put all their eggs in California basket this time use it then
50033:19	try and generate an argument that they have a national popular mandate for what
50133:24	they've only so far accomplished in in courts and if in a couple of State
50233:28	Legislatures well let me shift to Canada elections because they turn out to be
50333:37	important and enduring and the way that political scientists study candidate
50433:43	elections is to look at three variables
50533:48	first and most important what we call party identification is like a brand
50633:52	label preference
50733:54	it's a standing choice that people made and continue to hold to some people
50834:01	change but many don't often required in and youth sometimes even in childhood
50934:07	that tends to endure and is very predictive it's asked in the following
51034:14	way generally speaking in politics do you consider yourself to be a Republican
51134:19	Democrat independent or what
51234:22	then the follow-up question is do you consider yourself as a strong or not
51334:27	very strong Republican we won't tell them but we define the not very strong
51434:31	as weak Republicans and if you answered independent and the follow-up question
51534:36	should be gallop now agrees
51634:39	do you consider yourself as leaning towards the Republican or democratic
51734:42	party that gives you then seven categories plus the people who refuse to
51834:46	classify themselves in national survey since we first do it began doing it this
51934:50	way its 1952 only about two or three percent have been anything other than
52034:55	those three independent Republican or Democrat so they tend not to amount to
52134:59	an important law very large enough group to worry much about does it matter well
52235:05	here's what you had in 2008 in the National that of the Democrats and I
52335:10	classified the independent leanin Democrats as Democrats and the
52435:14	independent leanin Republicans as Republicans that's because they really
52535:17	are closeted Democrats and closet Republicans behaviorally you can scratch
52635:22	an independent in and an independent leanin independent you'll find a
52735:27	partisan eighty-nine percent of Democrats voted for obama ninety percent
52835:32	of republicans voted for mccain this is a classic pretty straight party vote
52935:38	relative to other presidential elections neither candidate made major inroads
53035:43	among the other parties voters
53135:45	well then why why did it turn out to be a margin as wide as it was for Obama
53235:51	well it was because i showed you at the beginning not as many Republicans turned
53335:54	out and in the last four years substantially increase in Democrats
53436:00	have registered to vote and some people have switch party the surgeon Democrats
53536:04	has come mostly among young voters and new voters and so some of those are new
53636:09	immigrants and so forth
53736:11	independence split 5244 for obama now who are these independence there about
53836:16	ten percent of the electorate they're not your league of women voters ideal
53936:20	voter they tend to be the least informed and the least connected the strong
54036:24	partisans tenda tend to be the most informed and the most connected
54136:29	despite sort of the popular notion in the public in terms of party
54236:34	identification among utah voters let me talk a little bit about Canada appeal i
54336:39	said there are three variables the second one is candidate appeal what you
54436:41	like and you don't like about the candidates these are often general
54536:46	traits but they can become quite specific traits in the exit polling 31 I
54636:52	thought were informative in terms of which candidate just does this candidate
54736:57	have sufficient experience that you're comfortable voting for them both of them
54837:01	past the majority threshold fifty percent said yes for Obama fifty-nine
54937:05	percent for mccain is the candidate in touch with people like you
55037:10	does he relate well to you somebody like you in other words and hear obama does
55137:15	20 points or so better than mccain people saw him as more in touch with
55237:20	them maybe it's because he's got his blackberry judgment an area where i
55337:26	think both Hillary Clinton and McCain aggressively went negative on obama he
55437:31	still prevailed by about eight points more people considered him to have the
55537:35	judgment suitable for president then considered McCain to have that now
55637:38	people could say both and many did so I wasn't either or it was a question of
55737:43	enough of these gather characteristics that you would vote for in the broad
55837:47	area of Canada appeal then obama carried the election there are a few dimensions
55937:52	experience in national security for example where McCain clearly was
56037:57	outperforming Obama reporter David on the middle category in touch
56138:02	McCain tried to portray himself as a man of the people down
56238:08	earth military veteran you know spoke the language of the southern redneck so
56338:16	to speak where is Obama was painted a lot even sometimes by their Collins is a
56438:23	little bit out of touch right harvard-educated spoke in this kind of
56538:27	highfalutin language how did it come out this way what are you can't well it's a
56638:31	good question . i don't get to ask the follow-up to the exit also i'm
56738:36	speculating here but my sense is that part of that was age we had a lot of
56838:43	younger voters and I think a lot of people related to obama i think they
56938:50	felt that he was in touch on the one major crisis of the campaign which was
57038:54	the economic meltdown and how the two candidates dealt with it that speaks I
57138:59	think also to the judgment dimension
57239:02	I don't know for sure good question let's shift to utah now and this gives
57339:10	you a sense of party identification we didn't choose BYU and utah colors by
57439:14	making the Republicans read here just so you know I understand that you check
57539:18	each other's ties this week
57639:21	Republicans and 2008 again had a substantial more than two-to-one
57739:25	advantage again this is a standing brand label preference and that gives them a
57839:31	substantial advantage in utah politics and elections Democrats a 25-percent
57939:36	independence at about 13 other at about four
58039:39	let's look at how it matters in terms of how people vote this is the votes for
58139:44	congressman bishop in the 1st congressional district as you can see he
58239:48	got ninety-four percent of the strong Democrats ninety-one percent of the week
58339:52	that Republicans are strong republican sweep Republicans he got eighty-four
58439:56	percent of the independent leanin Republicans they're really not
58539:59	independence and not only nineteen percent of the independently Democrats
58640:04	they're really not independent
58740:07	he picked up a majority of the pure independence and this gives him what i
58840:12	would call the kind of normal distribution for Michael Levitt jon
58940:15	huntsman kind of Republican campaign in utah and that is that normal
59040:21	I think you top
59140:22	outer now let's look at the matheson vote in $MONTH 2008 and this is not
59240:25	unlike numbers i've shown you in Prior cycles Matheson wins as a Democrat in a
59340:30	largely Republican district by getting ninety-seven percent of the Democrats I
59440:35	can't believe this number so I'm a double check it when i get home but a
59540:38	hundred percent of the week Democrats and ninety-eight percent of the
59640:41	independent Democrat so on average something approaching 99% of the
59740:46	Democrats but he also gets thirty-one percent of the strong Republicans this
59840:51	is like heresy sixty-two percent of the week Republicans and fifty-nine percent
59940:56	of the independent Republicans week Republicans and weak Democrats are the
60041:01	groups that you target as swing voters more than independent Democrats and
60141:05	independents Republicans these are the Reagan Democrats national week Democrats
60241:09	and this is a group that Democrats when they win are able to get forty fifty
60341:15	percent and around fifty nine percent of the independent Republicans the
60441:20	Democrats made a concerted effort especially in utah county to run
60541:23	candidates who were active latter-day saints moderate and they got about
60641:29	twenty six to twenty eight percent of the vote so the party identification
60741:32	factor is even more predictive in low-information elections when you know
60841:38	less about the the race you vote your party preference you know your brand
60941:41	label preference that concludes what i prepared a brother and if there are any
61041:46	other questions I'd be happy to take them
61141:48	thank you very much
61241:51	hey would you look at all of the state legislature we do we track for a
61341:59	textbook that I work on those I haven't I haven't looked at carefully there were
61442:03	some inroads for Democrats there as well it's fair to say that the interest
61542:07	groups understanding the redistricting is coming sought 2008 is an important
61642:14	part of a two-step profits to get the legislators where they want them for the
61742:18	next decades boundary drawing and i think democrats picked up some some
61842:23	houses in some state legislators and held some Republicans were contesting in
61942:27	states like Colorado how do you see the gay lesbian
62042:31	coalitions moving forward in the power are you see them going well for them
62142:38	this is very centrally and closely-held issue it's very much a part of their
62242:44	identity and they want validation and that's part of why they're stepping into
62342:47	the public square and seeking it in these ways I think so they're not going
62442:50	to go away they will be very aggressive frankly they're very smart in their use
62542:55	of the media both news media but also even more the popular media that's why I
62643:00	think the issue of tolerance which became so central to proposition 8 did
62743:04	not start in this campaign that had been a multi-year effort to try and define
62843:09	this issue is about acceptance and tolerance and and we can all get along
62943:14	so I think they will continue with their garage in the media and I think I said
63043:20	early on to some friends if this becomes a vote of the gays versus the Mormons
63143:24	were going to lose twice and it needed to be and was a broader coalition
63243:31	because they would love to and they're choosing to disparage just because in
63343:36	the public eye were less understood and more negatively viewed then are
63443:40	african-americans or Latinos or the Catholic Church and so they will they
63543:45	will do what I think they're doing they will try and make this a a referendum on
63643:50	what they're going to call hate and intolerance and I don't think they're
63743:57	going to make inroads it given the new administration in terms of any national
63844:02	legislation I mean part of this is a lot of that Obama vote will be writing him
63944:08	to one of the things I saw as i visited both McCain and Obama headquarters is an
64044:12	extraordinary connection this is a level of engagement that I've never seen in
64144:17	politics before the Obama campaign is more data-driven and committed to
64244:21	engagement
64344:22	it's not just about a contribution and a vote it's about talking to a friend
64444:26	it's about communicating with others and I think when they reach out they will
64544:31	that those grassroots people were in the store front offices and watching other
64644:36	places are going to communicate on their issues so i think it's going to be ways
64744:41	at the state level and the local level
64844:44	with respect to marriage but they are going to push on other parts of their
64944:49	agenda and I certainly don't think it's gonna go away
65044:54	how far do you think it will be it's less powerful now after what happened on
65144:59	November forth the vote is a marker as I said and that's why they fought it so
65245:05	aggressively and why they're so bitterly disappointed that it didn't go their way
65345:10	I think they read those polling numbers that i showed you and became
65445:14	overconfident and a bit complacent in their margin of support and I don't
65545:22	think that'll happen again i do think in response president packer requesting
65645:26	that they will come back on the ballot in California if i look at issue agendas
65745:30	overtime and because this is driven by a petition they just have to meet a fairly
65845:36	low threshold for a well-funded group and they're going to try and find some
65945:40	other way to do it but when they're doing that you're going to be on the no
66045:43	side which you were on proposition 22 and when when your initiative on the no
66145:48	side you have important structural advantages with the argument because
66245:52	you're defending the status quo in that instance they're trying to change things
66345:56	and that gives the church an advantage position i think is gonna be fascinating
66446:03	to see how the courts deal with this and the whole topic of unelected judges and
66546:09	so forth and so on
66646:10	it was ballot initiative years ago which got Chief Justice rose bird of the
66746:16	California Supreme Court in trouble and the California attorneys in the room
66846:19	with no better than I what the institutional memory is about that but
66946:23	they vote against a popular they vote against the popular vote at their own
67046:29	peril in California because they must stand for a retention election as a
67146:32	state Supreme Court justice and an organized group took it down three
67246:36	sitting state California Supreme Court judges and Cal justice in California so
67346:42	there's a bit of the accountability mechanism built into California law
67446:45	which may be will influence them to see this differently now that the votes
67546:50	podcast and I don't want to over generalize I don't know enough to be
67646:54	sure
67746:55	yes you detach your are you aware of any group formal and informal behind the LSD
67847:04	and movement I i know of no group behind it i mean the the major front group for
67947:11	them a is that human rights campaign and notice how skillful these groups on both
68047:17	sides are in terminology and labeling it's like choice with abortion so human
68147:22	rights campaign doesn't that doesn't that at convey that who could be against
68247:26	human rights right and it speaks to the whole issue you confronted in this right
68347:30	well you'd have to say that the entertainment industry is very strong on
68447:34	this case I'd yes
68547:35	for example they had one evening and Barbra Streisand's home and raise three
68647:41	million nine hundred thousand dollars and 12 hour meeting at her all give you
68747:46	an idea of the power of the of the media that's also i think why the media puts
68847:51	the twist on this they do that's right i think you are taking on a well-funded
68947:57	side but i don't think there's a group behind that I mean I in other words i
69048:01	think things like the human rights campaign and others organize those
69148:04	donors and and then have political consultants and others that are going to
69248:10	target their their opportunities Allen's a question we got the think one of the
69348:16	things that was surprising is that the ad against that is showing the two
69448:20	missionaries that came on at the end it was a group and in that group they
69548:24	identified one of the identified groups was moveon.org which surprised us a
69648:29	little bit on that I think that's a really important question that we need
69748:34	to follow up on a little bit and that's why we want door to door open and to
69848:39	that might not particularly surprising you
69948:41	yeah well I've interviewed mr. Boyd actually in his home in the berkeley
70048:44	hills it's so berkeley two dogs you know find a spot to sit if you can move the
70148:50	dogs and I'm a little surprised to I mean I would think there's a lot of
70248:56	overlap in the in the constituencies of both groups and
70349:01	and and I think there's going to be sympathy there they will bring a
70449:07	substantial network and they are innovators in the use of the Internet as
70549:13	a tool for politics much of what Obama did expand upon what move on had done I
70649:20	think it took it to whole new levels but I think move on is a formidable group
70749:24	and if they're going to become involved it suggests a broadening of the
70849:28	coalition which would have been smart for them from the get-go so you know
70949:33	they may have been finally reaching out two groups as they saw your numbers that
71049:37	the yes numbers rise and say we go we gotta build a coalition hear you
71149:43	endorsements and and support initiative is important it's not like a vote for a
71249:49	candidate where you have a standing choice you got the white hats in the
71349:53	black hats for the red ties in the blue ties and you know kind of where you
71449:56	stand
71549:57	initially we gotta make up your mind every time and you've got a whole bunch
71650:00	of them coming at you
71750:01	so you're looking for cues and the importance of cues to an initiative
71850:05	voters very important where those come from groups editorial endorsements are
71950:11	often very important now
72050:13	advertising is very important and it's often a motive and it's often not linked
72150:19	to the issue i did some consulting on the horse race gambling vote in utah
72250:24	some years ago and Wendell Ashton and had invited me to help with that and I
72350:30	remember going to my first meeting and and so labeling and how the issue gets
72450:34	defined is critical
72550:36	you must be in charge of the definition of the question now was on the ballot
72650:40	what's in the voters heads and we were meeting and he said this is a vote about
72750:44	paramutual wagering and I raised my hand I said this is the last time we'll ever
72850:49	use those two words is about horse race gambling and not paramutual wagering if
72950:56	we are defining this is parameter wagering we've lost this election that
73051:00	cleans it up
73151:01	most people have no idea what paramutual is an insurance company and what is
73251:06	wagering we're all for that are with so
73351:08	so but again if you if you went to the technical no offense intended lawyer
73451:14	speak of the measure you'd fall into a trap you had to call it what you needed
73551:19	to call it to the voters understood what it was and there's going to be an
73651:22	intense battle over definition issue definition is going to be the most
73751:26	important thing you do in an initiative race that's why state's same-sex and not
73851:30	same gender and I think it's wise men and I think you want to do a lot of
73951:35	research on how to frame the question if you're in charge of it and then you need
74051:40	to do a lot of research on how you can try and interpret the question to
74151:46	persuade voters and and initiative purists get really upset when I'm about
74251:50	this point of the conversation as they say what we wanted to be vote on what we
74351:53	intended i said well that's not what's going to happen we're going to fight
74451:56	this out with a public that has a limited attention span and is looking
74552:00	for a queue and they understand what it's about and the other side is going
74652:04	to take one small part of it and make that what's important
74752:09	thank you thank you great
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749========================================================
750Mormon Leaks 
751Title:	In Which They Fret Over The Young Single Adults
752LDS title:	Young Single Adults
753Recorded:	11/12/2008
754Length:	50:03
755
756Transcript
757English (Automatic Captions)
758
7590:01	it's been asked for that study single-use the Department commission to
7600:15	get some figures and facts for us on this very important subject and so I'm
7610:22	the direction been working very good share those results this is dale bet
7620:42	you're not as you to regain your composure after that but it occurs to me
7630:51	that those soldiers are in the age group
7640:56	we're going to be talking about for the most part it's not something i heard of
7651:02	fine returned missionary give a stirring report on this mission in my own words
7661:07	for sacrament meeting afterwards I went up to talk to him about what he was
7671:12	going to do now to keep that fire alive and to serve with all the capacity he
7681:20	had developed those returned missionaries are at the heart the
7691:25	spiritual heart of the group we're talking about they're really the future
7701:28	of the church and so that to have our feelings stirred in that way is is not
7711:37	inappropriate
7721:38	we don't want to lose anybody in this group either i'm happy to welcome Alan
7731:46	Wilkins you wouldn't
7741:49	and if you would know Alan he just returned from presiding over a mission
7751:52	in Argentina worked at BYU for some years earlier president of a student's
7761:58	take at BYU other Dale redland is an area 17 who lives here in Salt Lake City
7772:04	and has had some responsibility for a young single
7782:08	those in utah and particularly solid like and was involved in some very fine
7792:15	work a few years ago that led to a First Presidency later we'll be referring to
7802:19	the work we report to you today builds on that letter the other members of the
7812:26	task community who have been working for about a year include members of the
7822:30	General relief society presidency welcome sister back here she has a great
7832:35	interest in this subject
7842:36	we've also had representatives of the young women's presidency the young man's
7852:40	general board put a Perry Cunningham from research information who made a
7862:46	presentation on the this age group to this committee a few weeks ago and as I
7872:51	recall President Bacco you asked him
7882:53	so what does this mean for us and really that's where we'll pick up today
7892:57	focusing on what it does mean for us i love i mentioned that letter I'll talk
7903:05	in just a second about a couple key points made in that letter and know that
7913:10	this letter about young single adults and increasing their accountability in
7923:15	the accountability of state president's for the rear was sent only two leaders
7933:19	in north america and so it was intended we would see what came of that and and
7943:24	see where we go next
7953:25	so this interim report also provides you with some context for some proposals
7963:31	that will come forward for revised handbook to we've identified two or
7973:36	three issues review them with the handbook committee and Anwar glass with
7983:41	this opportunity for you to see the the background from which those specific
7993:46	proposals will come and you will note 2 or 3 and what follows that that will
8003:51	need that kind of review in general they're kind of committee has felt so
8013:57	many of us all I guess all know from personal experience young single adults
8024:02	are among the church's most underutilized resources they have
8034:07	enormous potential buttface high risks in today's world first invite Alan
8044:13	Wilkins to report on the main findings of
8054:15	committee and then I would introduce y'all to Rendon to report on the main
8064:20	recommendations as a very Cunningham presented to you
8074:36	this is an age group the twenties young single adults when these they would
8084:42	where people are most likely to be inactive in churches this is a true
8094:46	across North America but it is also true in the church and we want to talk about
8104:53	some of the reasons for that young single adults were talking about now in
8114:57	the church take longer to finish education Mary and begin a career than
8125:01	they did to that case ago
8135:04	there there seems to be a need for more education for many of the jobs that are
8145:11	that are now in our economy in North America particularly and there seemed to
8155:16	be a decrease in norms that favor marriage now the social norms more often
8165:24	allow and favor and experimenting and trying things out
8175:29	cohabitation as they call it and not having as many children and so the
8185:35	average age for members of The Church who marry outside of the temple it is 27
8195:41	for marriage for men and 25 for women when they marry in the temple it's 24
8205:47	for men and 23 for women
8215:50	those are numbers that have the ages averages that have been increasing over
8225:55	the last couple of decades and so they cost significant concern the principal
8236:01	concern is that the Lang marriage in an area of high immorality more increasing
8246:06	access to pornography constitutes and significant very high risks for our
8256:12	young single adults what we've noticed is that church activity begins to
8266:17	decline in the teenage years and continues to decline into the twenties
8276:21	the current activity rate for young single adults in North America's
8286:27	30-percent 20-percent internationally is to about twenty-five percent world why
8296:32	what's interesting about that to us is that married adults young adults people
8306:40	of the same age who get married are twice as active a single so there's
8316:45	something about being single
8326:49	this is something that Robert was now of sociologists at Princeton whose work
8336:56	very cunning and used significantly in his report to you found across religions
8347:02	that is in north america at least where they have very good data what they're
8357:07	finding both in surveys as well as an interview studies is that young people
8367:12	who are not married don't feel as welcome they don't feel that they are
8377:15	needed they are given positions and opportunities to serve as much and they
8387:20	don't feel that they that their interests and these are being addressed
8397:23	and so that this is true across the religions but even and even more so
8407:29	another religious frankly then then in our church as we look internationally
8417:33	six percent of international members are temple married by age 30 and that's
8427:39	that's been declining over the last couple of decades the implication of
8437:44	that is for us is significant it's beyond what's happening to young single
8447:49	adults and becomes an issue about the establishment of the church as a
8457:54	multi-generational institution the elements that would be required to have
8468:00	a multi-generational church include first retaining our young people through
8478:05	their youth and you
8488:06	legal adult good having to marry in the temple and then having them have
8498:10	children each of those three areas shows declining rates in the last couple of
8508:16	decades
8518:17	we're having declining activity for having declined marriages in the temple
8528:21	and the fertility rates are decreasing and so the the question then is how we
8538:28	establish the internet search with really given what's happening to young
8548:34	single adults is a significant one it's difficult as you as you all know to find
8558:39	a companion and internationally particularly about 70 active men for 100
8568:46	active women across many of these countries and beyond that many of the
8578:52	women are more educated than the man sister already the relief society
8588:57	presidency came back from Central America she just met with a large group
8599:00	of young men and women in this age group principles of high schools doctors
8609:06	lawyers significant education they couldn't find somebody in the church
8619:12	they're equal and in many cases the norms men are willing to have the the
8629:18	woman put them through schools might be the case in North America significant
8639:23	problems and bringing them together that we want to talk about at least try to
8649:29	address we also discovered that most young single adults are not in young
8659:37	single adult or student wards where they might find where they might be gathered
8669:42	together and might have more likely go to finding a companion they're often as
8679:47	well
8689:47	invisible to their war leaders twenty percent of the records of young single
8699:52	adults worldwide that are are here in church headquarters we don't know where
8709:57	they belong
8719:58	another twenty to thirty percent in samplings of
87210:01	of Bishops as they've been asked to identify who are these people who are on
87310:05	your records these young single adults twenty to thirty percent of they don't
87410:09	know
87510:09	another 22 Britain to thirty percent are less active they know them but but
87610:15	they're not involved and not active one of the problems is that our current for
87710:21	reporting system does not let local leaders tracking single adult activity
87810:25	at the group or individual level as you know once they leave youth programs we
87910:30	don't keep role and so we don't have individual attendance data and hard 4a
88010:36	state president to say this was having some difficulty in and this one isn't as
88110:40	mice in terms of activity and hard for Bishop to track individual early-warning
88210:45	scientists they're not involved but even more significant those who are active
88310:51	are typically not involved in serving in positions of responsibility both elder
88410:57	claimed Christensen and sister back have talked about experiences and Creoles
88511:01	share interesting time sister became back from a visit to Korea had noticed
88611:05	that youth and young single adults were not particularly involved and colleagues
88711:09	and ask them about that and as I remember sister back they were saying
88811:12	well they're too busy preparing for national exams & 4 in their schooling
88911:17	well how did you run the church had to leave the church when you were young and
89011:23	most of them were the the high school and college h people who led the church
89111:28	in those days well we just had to sacrifice that they had to do balls
89211:31	that's part of the problem they're not too trusting not giving the challenge to
89311:38	the young single adult seller will be Clayton is not with us today but was my
89411:42	area president when I was in Argentina was the first one to admit to teach me
89511:46	the st principal the same 10 people tend to rotate through the significant
89611:53	responsibilities
89711:54	and award and that was certainly true in Latin American he was saying in other
89811:57	parts of the world we've been seeing that with respect to young single adults
89912:01	they're not they're not being challenged and given opportunities beyond that we
90012:07	think this isn't just about having calling as a district president or an
90112:12	elders quorum president it's being significantly involved in the key work
90212:16	of the kingdom
90312:17	that's the part that were hearing from young single adults that their that
90412:22	they're feeling they're not as involved in since most of them are in
90512:25	conventional Wars how does that happen well there's such lessons we could learn
90612:29	for the conventional ways that we can learn from some of the strongest young
90712:33	single adult and student wards those play those groups tend to do two things
90812:39	they gather people and that doesn't have to be the size of a war they gathered
90912:43	them in smaller groups and they engage them in meaningful service together what
91012:47	we're seeing in a number of cases is they will let in some young single adult
91112:52	wars have created a second relief society create a second elders quorum
91212:56	both to provide more opportunity to serve but also to reach the individuals
91313:01	to activate and to reactivate them but we've also been seeing in a number of
91413:05	young single adult student Wars farming of the formation of committees for
91513:10	example these are digital world friendly youth who can do wonderful things with
91613:17	the computer and identifying doing family history work for example and also
91713:23	in teaching others in the ward how to do that there are communities that have
91813:28	informed to do reactivation to reach out and a number of other experiences where
91913:34	they feel like they're involved in the core work of the church while we're
92013:38	noticing is that this is anecdotal we don't have great data but we have any
92113:44	why you for example 1 and and some of you have been if you want you to know
92213:48	that we have lots of superlatives there and sometimes people exaggerate this so
92313:51	take this with a grain of salt 1 state president said after having
92413:55	significantly worked on establishing these kinds of committees he said we had
92513:59	three times the temple marriages of any other state and BYU
92614:04	it was not the parties it was getting them involved in doing this work
92714:08	together that made the difference
92814:10	they lost themselves and this is about themselves they weren't in a meat market
92914:13	they were that they were doing the core work of the church and and now getting
93014:17	to know one another and he thought that made a significant difference
93114:21	we're not sure about three times but but it seems to make quite a difference to
93214:26	be able to do this kind of thing so the sine summary are key findings are that
93314:31	we're losing an increasing number of our young single adults
93414:35	this poses a threat not only to this age group but to the growth of a
93514:38	multi-generational church and paradoxically we're losing them because
93614:42	we are using them in meaningful wise and thank your own brother NASA as a
93714:55	foundation for the recommendations that will follow from elder remnant like to
93815:01	refer to the First Presidency letter sent in October of 2006 the phrase comes
93915:07	from that letter the letter assigned young single adult accountability to
94015:11	stake presidents asking each stake in North America to be accountable for all
94115:17	young single adults residing in their steak to identify locate and Shepherd
94215:23	each one and to support multi stake activities
94315:27	those are the essential components of that letter the letter was the result of
94415:31	a great deal of preparation and it has led to a great deal of action is through
94515:35	the Princeton lines in north america and as this committee has worked and looked
94615:41	deeper and longer since that time they've concluded this was exactly the
94715:46	place to start and so what you hear in the findings will be based on that
94815:51	foundation the advantages of of locating responsibility for young single adults
94915:56	at the state level are such as these state presidents have the keys and the
95016:02	all ready to hold the ward young single adult committees accountable those
95116:06	committees have been in the handbook for years they typically don't function
95216:11	member of the relief society presidency remember the others presidency chaired
95316:16	by member of the bishopric not much happens but more could happen if they
95416:21	were held accountable by those who have the vision another factor that's very
95516:25	important is that at the state level I've seen especially in my international
95616:30	experience the institute of religion typically function at the state level
95716:34	and so if you want to have a stronger partnership stronger a coordination with
95816:39	the Institute's under President direction to achieve that at the state
95916:43	level as well and multi-state interaction of course will be better
96016:48	facilitated when when that takes place at the state level the state president
96116:52	can also organize a stronger structure organize the then then we have been
96216:58	seeing and will have just a couple of ideas to share on that toward the end as
96317:03	we introduce the recommendations I just wanted to say something to both the
96417:10	focus on our two main points 1 state level responsibility and number to
96517:15	emphasize spiritual development too often we have thought of social
96617:21	development as the main need of young single adults we all want them to get
96717:24	married and you assume that you get married if you go to social things this
96817:28	committee based on its research has reached quite a different conclusion as
96917:32	Alan has already indicated they found that when young single adults are
97017:36	engaged and spiritually oriented service that blesses them not only spiritually
97117:43	but with greater opportunities for marriage and so coming from this
97217:50	foundation one of the recommendations will be to call more of them to possess
97317:54	change of responsibility heard overhaul and say this morning in a meeting of NBC
97417:59	and ABC talking about a young woman of 29 called to be one primary president
97518:05	how did you feel
97618:06	she said it was her lifeline it saved her she thought she was of no use to
97718:10	anyone because no one was marrying her married her but she she has really
97818:14	blossomed into primary president and yet we tend to overlook them so we would
97918:20	hope to shift the orientation of all young single adults including those and
98018:24	young single adult student Wars to a spiritual service focused that includes
98118:29	sociality of course it's important but its secondary it's not primary just to
98218:35	give two quick examples before I sit down I share these with the brother
98318:40	thought maybe I to working with us
98418:44	just last week you won't remember elder ballard read to a number of us an email
98518:51	he received from a young single adult who had worked on Proposition 8 in
98618:55	California and I really was struck by what she said one thing was because of
98719:01	her service in this cause she learned the meaning of marriage now she
98819:07	understood what the church had been teaching because she'd been involved is
98919:11	like a missionary saying now I understand the gospel because I've been
99019:15	preaching it and she was thankful for the opportunity to be involved you can
99119:20	just sense what it meant to have involved that kind of cost in which he
99219:25	had work in the service of of the the Lord's servants another example of that
99319:30	on the other end of the continent i was at a state president a few months ago
99419:35	we're going to stake conference they had hundreds of young single adults in this
99519:40	state wonderfully educated young men and women who are in washington DC working
99619:45	and congressional offices and other places state president said one of the
99719:49	great discoveries he made in that state was how those young single adults could
99819:53	help the inner-city war he has in that state that baptize them
99919:58	number of young people from minority backgrounds who live in poverty who
100020:03	aren't very literate and he brought his young single adults together with those
100120:08	young people from that inner city steak every wednesday night and on a
100220:13	one-on-one basis but young single adults would tutor them and help them do their
100320:18	high school homework and convey a vision about education about the future that
100420:24	can happen only in that relationship and he started to three examples of those
100520:28	who had succeeded the graduates of books and basketball who went on a couple of
100620:33	them to BYU and they're carrying that on after they after they've studied they'll
100720:38	play a little basketball read the scriptures and have refreshments and
100820:42	that's very much the flavor of of the kind of service that can involve young
100920:48	single adults serving youth and building themselves spiritually and finally
101020:53	surrendered to continue with the recommendations as elder hangin
101121:04	mentioned the new priest Department recommendations extend beyond the
101221:08	accountability aspect of the First Presidency letter of october two
101321:12	thousand six to go on to encourage state presidents to use all active young
101421:20	single adults including those in young single adult wards to help convert
101521:24	retain and activate youth and other young single adults in mistake this is a
101621:30	plea to deploy young single adults to participate in the gathering of
101721:35	scattered Israel and to use them in the cause of sine and the winter 14th Lord
101821:42	in this valley a young single adult ward young single adults there have gone out
101921:48	and literally tracked it out the last active young single adults in their
102021:53	state and in the neighboring Salt Lake milk crates take they have helped update
102121:59	membership records they have reactivated some and they themselves have
102222:05	experienced a greater commitment
102322:08	and an increase in faith because they have been involved in that effort if it
102422:14	helps with either the accountability aspect or the mobilizing aspect of it
102522:19	state president's could create more than one release society or elders quorum and
102622:24	award when justified by local conditions and numbers this would be an option to
102722:29	use if it helps the state president achieve better accountability or
102822:34	mobilized and better
102922:35	this could be done stake presidents and this has been done to good effect and
103022:42	several boards throughout this state and elsewhere state presence would also be
103122:49	encouraged to mobilize young single adult task groups for various forms of
103222:54	church service our Haven mentioned the proposition 8 experience the boats in
103323:00	basketball initiatives that was in washington DC books in basketball
103423:04	occurred in palo alto california and in cambridge massachusetts as well
103523:09	in fact there's no challenge the church faces or any aspect of the mission of
103623:15	the church to which the strength energy and vitality of the young single adults
103723:20	cannot be applied in addition the recommendations would extend the 2006
103823:31	First Presidency letter to all international areas both in the
103923:36	accountability part and in the second paragraph of that letter which was the
104023:41	grouping of beyond the steak or the district to increase the numbers for
104123:48	activities this has been done elsewhere throughout the world already elder
104223:53	priests oxen told this General Conference about the young single those
104323:57	from Moldova who went to hungry for a young single adult conference the six
104424:03	states and around sydney australia have sponsored jointly of fireside each month
104524:09	for the young single adults in their six steaks and similar things have happened
104624:15	Europe and in Asia the recommendations would modify the current reporting
104724:22	system to enable reporting of young single adult activity as brother Wilkins
104824:27	mentioned young single adults are often invisible to their priesthood leaders as
104924:33	the pilot programs in late $MONTH 2005 the elder oaks and elder bednar directed
105024:38	many conventional or bishops were surprised and shocked that they they had
105124:44	underestimated the number of young single adults who have membership
105224:48	records in their wards by five to ten fold they were shocked that they had
105324:53	that many and they're invisible
105424:56	President Monson has said of course when performance is measured performance
105525:00	improves hence this recommended modification there's a way to accomplish
105625:07	this without increasing the work as a bishop and without creating a new report
105725:12	rather modifying the current report today that are already been collected
105825:17	ministering to young single adults is complex and perhaps unnecessarily so we
105925:26	make distinctions among the among them when the priest it needs are in fact the
106025:31	same for instance in midvale utah we have a stake a conventional steak where
106125:39	the state president holds priesthood keys for that geography we also have the
106225:45	salt lake university seven steak a single students take where the state
106325:50	president holds priesthood keys for the very same geography
106425:54	additionally we have yet another solid university single students take the salt
106526:00	lake university six take that presides over the LDS Business College and
106626:05	westminster college that also that state president has keys for that cell same
106726:10	territory this overlapping jurisdiction
106826:14	create ambiguity and accountability increases choices for young single
106926:19	adults which leads to work shopping and generates conflict among priesthood
107026:24	leaders one could say well the student state presidents have recent case for
107126:31	students but in practice that distinction is actually blurred and the
107226:37	reason is blurred well that the the data are that in the salt lake university
107326:41	single student States less than thirty percent of the members are in fact
107426:47	students and even at BYU once we get off-campus the the non student
107526:54	membership goes between about twenty-five $MONEY and fifty percent of
107626:59	those students takes the it's also problematic to define a student if I am
107727:08	young single adult and I matriculated college student this semester but not
107827:15	next
107927:16	do we really want to have to stake presidents one each semester if i
108027:22	matriculated student my roommate isn't should really have two different stake
108127:28	presidents and should the student refer just to college and roll students or
108227:35	does it refer to any form of post-high school education such as massage therapy
108327:40	or cosmetology to reduce the complexity increase accountability and unified
108427:49	priesthood leaders in ministering to young single adults the recommendations
108527:54	would eliminate the overlapping jurisdictional conflict occurs when
108627:59	multiple sets of equivalent keys are operative for the same geographic
108728:03	territory the recommendations would eliminate the distinction between
108828:11	student wards and young single adult awards this elimination makes sense
108928:17	because the priesthood needs are the same for a young single adult was a
109028:21	student as well as one who is not a student
109128:24	moreover the simplification and increase accountability occur because one would
109228:29	never have two young single adult words operative in the same geographical
109328:33	territory the recommendations would further encourage all young single
109428:39	adults to attend institute classes and activities the state structure would be
109528:47	strengthened by creating aids state committee specifically for young single
109628:53	adults this would be chaired right now we have a state committee for single
109728:58	members that includes all singles this would be one specific to young single
109829:02	adults it would be chaired by state president's counselor it would have a
109929:06	high councilor assigned to it it would also include stake relief society
110029:11	presidency remember married couple who was service advisors and young single
110129:17	adults call from the units of that steak the ward could also have a stronger
110229:25	structure for an award young single adult committee there would be a bishop
110329:29	remember who has served as chairman relief society and elders quorum
110429:34	presidency member a married couple the service advisors some young single
110529:39	adults would also serve on that committee each young single adult in the
110629:45	ward would be accounted for regularly by the war committee the I single adult the
110729:52	ward young single adult committee to the ward council each young single adult
110829:57	would be interviewed annually by a bishop remember preferably the one who
110930:02	serves as the chair of that young single adult committee at the word level each
111030:07	and single adult would be visited by elders quorum and release society
111130:11	presidency members annually preferably the same ones who serve on the young
111230:15	single adult committee and each single adult would be accounted for regularly
111330:21	by the bishop to the first to the to the state president we heard about the final
111430:29	salute and that we should bring them home and I think
111530:33	that's what this effort is about Nathan
111630:37	well thank you another random brother and this concludes our presentation our
111730:44	summary is that the best way to strengthen young single adults is to
111830:48	engage them in the mainstream work of the church second their greater
111930:53	spiritual engagement will bless the entire church because they will increase
112030:58	the number of of young people who are married married in the temple and
112131:02	raising families in the pattern of establishing the Church long-term with
112231:07	unless we do that anything we do programmatically makes relatively little
112331:12	difference so there's much at stake and how we respond the best organizational
112431:17	step the committee has recommended and we endorse the executive directors in
112531:22	the prison department to clarify and emphasize the stakes responsibility and
112631:28	flexibility to serve the needs of these young people in the ways that we have
112731:32	discussed we invite comments and questions very eager to take your
112831:38	counsel
112931:39	thank you much any questions in the rental the modification of the reporting
113031:52	system to better identify young single adults and account form are you speaking
113131:57	of the quarterly report the Jordans they do or others they will give my
113232:06	understanding and then the last color happened to correct me they currently
113332:10	they quarterly report the word clerk has noted what proportion attend meetings
113432:17	during the quarter total population little adults
113532:21	ok with any advantage one could I believe easily make it so that one just
113632:26	separates out the young single adults from the non young single adults from
113732:31	the total adults and report that without again increasing work for the bishop or
113832:37	creating a new report we've already talked to glenn Buckner
113932:43	MSR has been working on this for some time to help us see if it's possible and
114032:47	he recommends that you would need to have the clerk once a quarter print out
114132:54	the list of young single adult names and then indicate have they attended a
114232:58	meeting within the last month of the quarter and he would know that or could
114333:02	learn it from word council members and then he can send in a the numbers of
114433:06	young adults attending in single adults that would be a split the adult line
114533:12	into two parts young single adults and other adults now that would be just a
114633:18	quarter report right but the warden you also need more data right when I would
114733:22	come from the board to the stake so the word would have its own reports right
114833:25	but we wouldn't system is set up already set up to print houses young single
114933:31	doesn't just went out if they know the ages already dented out that list right
115033:36	at the word level another question for brother redland could you elaborate just
115133:42	a little bit on the mechanics and the implications of of combining the young
115233:48	single adult wars in the student awards
115333:50	I'm a little hazy on that and if you could elaborate examples are in the salt
115433:55	lake valley that's the hardest place to conceptualize that I believe that the
115534:02	they if one thinks of the parameter to look at as the density of the population
115634:12	of young single adults one would have circumstances where it's exclusively
115734:17	young single adult such as BYU on-campus housing exclusively young single adult
115834:24	that's easy because it will function like our current young single adult or
115934:28	our current students takes do now there are areas where the young single adult
116034:35	population density isn't moderate or high away from campus where where it
116134:43	really is there just is its is the responsibility is given to this
116234:48	conventional stake president the tools he has available are several
116334:54	and.and however best you can increase accountability and mobilize them could
116434:59	create them a state-based young single adult word if you chose to do that as
116535:04	the best way to accomplish what we've asked him the difficult place is of
116635:09	course where it's moderate to high density population density let's say the
116735:14	salt lake central state in the Salt Lake Central steak with President Adams may
116835:19	look for instance and say you know I've got 1,100 active why essays that live
116935:24	within the bounds of my steak i do not have the priesthood capacity to call 6
117035:30	bishoprics from the members of my steak
117135:33	therefore i will make it so it's as a YSA steak even and but it's including
117235:41	not just the students and not just be active but is there for all all young
117335:49	single adults and and it overlays precisely for instance the salt lake
117435:55	central stake to some extent that conventional stake president defers or
117536:02	bestows the responsibility for the on single adults to that other state
117636:09	president you would bring back students now in university of utah stakes to the
117736:17	conventional stay the conventional steak
117836:21	yes but it wouldn't do away with students takes for student housing areas
117936:27	where the density is large grip
118036:29	thank you that helps me understand it I wonder and and this is something that's
118136:39	been on my mind for a good long time I hope I'm not speaking out of school but
118236:45	i wonder if the trend that we see emerging at the young single adult age
118336:51	doesn't start much much earlier and where your we should must do what's been
118436:58	recommended i believe in terms of an interdiction that starts bringing them
118537:03	back but if we watch the pattern among the ironic priest
118637:07	it that pattern of Los simply carries through into the young single adult
118737:13	effort and i'm curious as to whether or not we couldn't go back further and
118837:21	start addressing the needs of young single adults in terms of their service
118937:26	in the church instead of being entertained in the church in terms of
119037:29	significant callings a neuronic priesthood with responsibility that goes
119137:33	with it rather not to the exclusion of activities but something really
119237:39	substantive and start to develop a new trip a trend that says to a very young
119337:45	man this is precious and when I'm a young single adult that pattern has
119437:50	already been established somehow arrest the trend earlier in its cycle and I I
119537:59	really do believe rather than that the opportunity for young people who bear
119638:05	young man for example who bear the Aaronic priesthood in terms of
119738:09	substantive service and contribution of the kingdom is far more than we are
119838:14	tapping and the pattern they become used to it is simply a pattern that things
119938:20	continue again an expectation that continues into the young single adult
120038:24	life
120138:24	there used to be entertained they're used to being given things are used to
120238:27	staying on the sidelines while others do things and and when they're young single
120338:32	adults
120438:32	that's where they end up so that's just an observation and I like to make
120538:38	another want to take very seriously the one word that's been missing in all of
120638:44	this family has been said what I wish you'd go back and analyze everything
120738:51	you've done and in truth the family into the middle of it and see what's
120838:56	happening there
120938:58	the original jurisdiction until they're married is there in the bread home to
121039:03	the family and we spent a lot of time on what they do and as compared to trying
121139:10	to figure out what they are and if you do some real skull practice on that
121239:17	what they are is compared to what they do and also what's the family fit into
121339:20	all of this
121439:22	this activity we're having writing all directions and where's dad and mom
121539:26	remember years ago
121639:33	Ernest Wilkinson cross lighting for BYU they were building BYU and he was very
121739:41	vigorous it had the support of the Brethren and it was a great move in the
121839:47	church and one of I guess it meant that presently they said well your daughter's
121939:58	by the university of utah missing atmosphere BYU and he said something
122040:04	very everybody said well i think the university of utah and her mother is
122140:12	more important to my daughter than BYU without her
122240:15	think about it that your mother had been that hella handing out yet
122340:24	okay now don't ignore in regard to what President Beyers said you talked about
122440:33	returned missionaries is sort of being a core of young single adults but at age
122540:39	18 when young men leave high school
122640:43	it's almost like a fall off a cliff that way they're not on a mission had some of
122740:49	them go to school and then a good student work with a lot don't they just
122840:53	worked for a year and there's a huge loss and activity just during that one
122940:58	year if they don't want a mission you know they did kind of disappear so I
123041:06	think we need to start its kinda gets back to what fishermen wanna say we need
123141:11	to start right when they turn 18 or even younger looking at what happens to not
123241:17	just one area home from actually
123341:19	lovely day and it's worse with the young men and young women in its words is no
123441:24	mission right and that's that's one of the reasons why we're glad to have
123541:28	sister back there we've been talking very active or about that the transition
123641:31	issue you're all aware of that but that starts immediately upon graduation and
123741:37	part of the challenges that the church is so structured with young men and
123841:41	young women program with personal progress and annual interviews with
123941:45	priesthood leaders and they walk right up to age 18 and go off the edge without
124041:51	the structure and support so that's part of what we're recommending and and the
124141:58	intent of course present is to involve families as long as those young people
124242:03	are at home even when they are at home that's the whole purpose of four were
124342:08	seeking to do here is to strengthen down carefully what we do yeah we should
124442:16	Burton just passed me a statistic that seventy two percent of young adults are
124542:21	already enacted before age 20 which means that's happened in the right east
124642:26	year and I'm I thought present as you are saying is the best thing we can do
124742:32	for youth is to make their parents better parent you have to keep in mind
124842:40	that internationally a lot of them are converse parents and the parents you
124942:46	they don't know totally totally out of touch with their parents or their
125042:49	friends don't support the miniature also much here but internationally
125142:55	that's true even outside this and someone else I'd Utah but what one of
125243:01	the good things internationally and nail and come to the church . base they find
125343:07	groundhog by father mother and the church someone
125443:12	doctors-medical a lot of lot of they they
125543:16	some years ago the church to get great decision to stylesheet institutes and m0
125643:23	and other places and soft black each was a great decision because they have a
125743:29	house they have a home and they they have people taking care of
125843:34	that's one of the hard things for the after mission age is that to Indonesia
125943:41	they receive at least eight personal interviews and year from the mission
126043:46	president when they come back home they are not interviewed by the former
126143:51	presidents that's one of the great challenges might be those are Perry one
126243:57	of the one of the great blessings of your service in Europe was to clarify
126344:01	for for everybody there's just one church there isn't a CES church there is
126444:08	no missionary church and bringing that group together with the Institute's as a
126544:13	as a kind of magnet for the young single adults i can see other Costa nodding
126644:17	that must be that the pattern elsewhere too thats that's another step we we need
126744:23	to take isn't it
126844:25	and then of course the importance of it adult couple yes available to them is
126944:32	the next most important thing I get all the credit for what happened in Europe
127044:36	this is the genius find what occurred over there i just walked through it my
127144:40	rip raw and horror on all the stuff got it work . that's all the contribution i
127244:46	made easy easy architect of what happened over there even snow is this
127344:53	race to sand reported the data that are young people are married both in and out
127444:58	of activity in the church they're married a later day we know that my time
127545:03	the priests apartment we had a lot of letters from young women who were kind
127645:08	of devastated by the fact that when they turn 30 they were no longer welcome that
127745:13	young single adult activities there been any discussion at all about extending
127845:18	that day or that
127945:20	young single adult age a little over or softening that page 30 question on your
128045:28	comment it quite a lot of discussion about that they're meeting and marrying
128145:32	later shouldn't we extend the H later our sense is that this ought to be a
128245:37	temporary period in their lives if indeed they are a young single adult or
128345:41	student ward it out of the focus on getting leadership experience etc but we
128445:46	ought to rely on strengthening this convention awards much more
128545:49	significantly it felt like being banished to go to a conventional ward
128645:53	strengthening the family and strengthen the conventional war and providing for
128745:57	them opportunities and multi stake in other gatherings to have service
128846:01	opportunities as felt like a better way to address and then to continue to the
128946:06	lengthen out of the matter of fact that certain that seems to approve of the
129046:11	notion that they they keep putting it off
129146:14	it's time to to do it now and then to move on and and basically as we talked
129246:20	to other Clayton Christensen has been doing some of this in the in the
129346:23	Northeast working with stake president so that rather than having people be
129446:27	pushed out of young single adult wars or student wards may be pulled into the
129546:32	conventional war so that they did that the two bishops would work together and
129646:36	say it
129746:38	this is this person is about to turn 31 could you meet that person the
129846:43	conventional war and could there be a calling to invite them back and the that
129946:48	felt like a better way to to do it well we want you to push pole instead of push
130046:52	that the notion of saying well it's 33 then or its there is always arbitrary
130146:57	and it will always be a date with somebody says you've destroyed my life
130247:00	because I'm not any longer in this war blog where I'll be able to get married
130347:04	well let's make connections that are that are happening the conventional ones
130447:09	that are happening multi-state levels at the state level and and then have this
130547:13	bad habit probably i'll have to be an arbitrary agent some point doesn't back
130647:17	here mothers . you
130747:20	23 thoughts as this discussion is first one is why do you have a ward and I
130847:30	think it's the same purpose rare remember the church need to place to go
130947:34	in your covenants certifier worthiness and serving build the kingdom when we
131047:43	think internationally almost a discussion that takes place talks about
131147:47	utah really and most what I see is international church and a single adult
131247:53	word is devastating out there because these people are like one of the words
131348:02	of the branches they hold up primaries and reduce societies they were in the
131448:06	auxiliary the storms and take care of back and if we siphon them off you just
131548:11	wouldn't have a leadership there the energy and enthusiasm by a large
131648:15	international church i love the idea of strengthening a priest in line
131748:21	strengthen the relief society president in that she has to provide that mother
131848:28	role that girl is a mother and there is not never done thought about
131948:35	strengthening illogical health how to take care of people on minister to
132048:41	people we also learned in this to me that most marriages don't occur in these
132148:48	words so our goal is marriage internal families it doesn't happen in these
132248:54	warts they network outside of that so they're not getting married in the
132348:59	people the singles worldwide
132449:02	don't like to make people they're warning messes up their social and then
132549:12	we have some organizing i think one of the things that works with you
132649:21	the whites take pulls them together with young men young women pressin see for
132749:27	one or two great things and your youth conference or a track or a service
132849:32	project or something they have a built-in committee and system with that
132949:36	we can fortify that state level with this group in line and help them worship
133049:42	where they need to worship keep cabinets where they need to keep them engaged in
133149:48	the Lord's work and then have a committee that pulls them together to
133249:52	use those are some parts of life stays over time
133349:59	finally our time this happened
1334
1335========================================================
1336Mormon Leaks 
1337Title:	In Which They Watch a Clip From Pirates of the Caribbean
1338LDS title:	Piracy
1339Recorded:	12/3/2008
1340Length:	5:54
1341
1342Transcript
1343English (Automatic Captions)
1344
13450:02	horrified after reading about deadly terrorist attacks in mumbai you turn to
13460:08	690 American British and Australian Federal messenger grateful you're aboard
13470:14	star luxury cruise liner for growing to Singapore and then you come face-to-face
13480:20	with piracy the london-based international maritime organization IMO
13490:27	reports piracy and armed robbery again ships including regional frequency
13500:33	analysis and patterns piracy is defined quote as illegal acts of violence or
13510:40	detention or any active depredation which occurs quote outside the
13520:45	jurisdiction of any state little we get chips is defined when such occurs quote
13530:53	within a state jurisdiction this year as you've been following Pirates have
13540:59	attacked some ninety two ships off Somalia's coast to date about 36
13551:04	successfully with some 250 crew 14 ships and among other things
13561:10	thirty-six thousand metric tons of wheat Soviet battle tanks and two million
13571:15	barrels of crude oil being held for ransom most piracy occurs in three
13581:21	geographic areas one the gulf of aden and the eastern coast of Somalia second
13591:28	the coast of West Africa particularly off nigeria and third the Indonesian
13601:33	archipelago including the Malacca Straits pirates usually operate close to
13611:39	land the hijacking of the saudi oil tanker serious star was unusual in part
13621:45	because pirates seized it 457 miles out on the high sea as you know a modern
13631:52	super tanker is a high-value slow-moving duck supertanker volume increases as a
13641:59	function of the cube of its length
13652:01	this is why super tankers are as as long as a quarter of a mile and why crew
13662:07	members use bicycles to get around many super tankers are so efficient
13672:13	single propeller it cost about a hundred and twenty million dollars to build a
13682:18	supertanker yet given oils high-cost as few as four trips from Saudi Arabia to
13692:25	North America can we pay its building costs and transport by supertanker ads
13702:31	reportedly only 23 cents per gallon sympathetic interviews with Somali
13712:38	pirates imply a Robin Hood factor economic distress justifies the poor
13722:45	taking from the rich some put it this way
13732:49	exxonmobil posted third-quarter net profit of fourteen point eight billion
13742:53	dollars the highest quarterly profit of any US company ever somalia in contrast
13753:01	has per capita gross domestic product of six hundred dollars a year less than two
13763:06	dollars a day for whatever reason Russia India Saudi Arabia Iran the United
13773:12	States and other countries continue to tolerate the failed state of somalia is
13783:17	harboring pirates communities and parts collecting 20 to 30 million dollars in
13793:22	recent ransoms pirate mythology infuses popular culture it was interesting to
13803:29	see some 300 movies featuring pirates I didn't watch them all that I i noticed
13813:35	that there were that many Ireland treasure island Peter Pan and costello
13823:41	meet captain kidd Errol Flynn and Captain Blood today's most famous pirate
13833:47	maybe disney's captain jack sparrow played by johnny down
13844:01	yeah
13854:05	yeah
13864:06	yeah
13874:08	he becomes only mention X that's the mimes well well thanks pero isn't it
13884:16	captain dexterity you are without doubt the worst part under the hood of what
13894:25	you have had off disney's parts of the caribbean trilogy as you know has
13904:36	garnered an amazing worldwide box office of almost 2.7 billion dollars i show up
13914:42	because momentum fun
13924:45	Captain Jack makes pirating appear good and traditional Authority appear silly
13934:50	says the Saudi foreign minister quote piracy like terrorism is a disease which
13944:57	is against everybody and everybody must address it together titled why don't we
13955:04	hang pirates anymore Street Journal article provocatively states quote a
13965:10	society that erases the memory of how it overcame barbarism in the past
13975:15	inevitably lose sight of the meaning of civilization and the means of sustaining
13985:20	it end of quote
13995:22	I am NOT for willy nilly hanging parts of the book of mormon repeatedly warns
14005:28	about robbers and thieves and reports the hanging of Guardian robbers in our
14015:34	day it may be worth continuing to stress even economic distress does not entitle
14025:41	individuals to steal from others
14035:45	today's update comments or questions thank you very interesting
1404
1405========================================================
1406Mormon Leaks 
1407Title:	In Which They Fret About Religious Freedom With Some Classic Bednar in the Last Five Minutes
1408LDS title:	Religious Freedom
1409Recorded:	5/16/2012
1410Length:	55:19
1411
1412Transcript
1413English (Automatic Captions)
1414
14150:00	as you know the first presidency is and the 12 been engaged in the vital subject
14160:06	of protecting our cherries religious freedoms which is under attack from many
14170:12	quarters one of the primary directives from the first presidency was the church
14180:17	should work together with other faith groups to secure our freedoms today
14190:23	Governor Mike Michael Levitt we don't use useful names here and led to do it
14200:32	better is with us to give us an update on what has happened in this important
14210:39	to show us the roads mapped operating we're just delighted to have dr. Robert
14220:45	P George emin Catholics car from Princeton will be introduced later as
14230:52	the work progresses
14240:54	we're also delighted to welcome Louis tell as president founder of Witherspoon
14251:00	Institute another significant ally in this endeavor would welcome both of you
14261:07	all we ask of you as you donate your frequent flyer miles fighting
14271:14	contribution to be a bad so we'll ask him he'll ever make the presentation
14281:24	thank you may I say before I begin
14291:29	you've heard the formal introduction of a professor George but I would simply
14301:34	like to add that the last many months has provided me with it set of insights
14311:42	not listed on that by biography it did not comment on the nobility of his
14321:47	purposes did not comment on the general gentleness of his manner it did not
14331:53	competent did not comment on the degree to which his competence is dependent
14341:58	upon around the world and I've enjoyed greatly the friendship that has
14352:02	developed between us i'm so pleased
14362:06	Robbie that you're here
14372:08	today our subject obviously has been spoken is religious freedom and this is
14382:13	a the second report that we will have made to this body much has happened
14392:18	since then the velocity of religious freedom activity is clearly increasing
14402:24	some of its good
14412:26	some of it is not just a six-month sampler in the judiciary much-discussed
14422:35	hosanna-tabor decision in the US Supreme Court considered by many to be the most
14432:40	significant event since 1990 when the Smith decision was handed down this was
14442:46	a discussion of what role government should play in the choosing of clergy an
14452:52	important victory for those of us who would defend religious freedom on the
14462:56	legislative side Affordable Care Act regulations requiring employers or their
14473:03	insurance companies to pay for contraceptive products and services
14483:07	no matter what they may have as religious views to the contrary in the
14493:13	state in state legislatures we have seen states continue to act to legalize gay
14503:18	marriage on the other hand we've seen states begin pushback on various federal
14513:23	requirements on religious freedom grounds and we've seen new interest
14523:27	begin to evolve in religious freedom restoration act around the country in
14533:33	the political front on the political front we've seen north carolina in the
14543:36	last two weeks pass a constitutional amendment in a very positive and
14553:42	affirmative way protecting marriage we have seen freedom of religion begin to
14563:48	emerge as a national issue in the context of the presidential election in
14573:53	some ways good in some ways not good
14583:56	culturally we get a continued to see national surveys reporting that people
14594:01	do not value or understand religious freedom as much as they did 10 years ago
14604:07	it was mentioned that the first presidency has very clearly instructed
14614:13	the public affairs committee and their instruction can be encapsulated in this
14624:16	phrase engage as part of a chorus
14634:20	not as a soloist as a result the public affairs committee has developed a
14644:27	strategy that on religious freedom that has three parts strategy one warned
14654:34	members of the church and the world second defend legally and third engage
14664:42	with allies in the public policy arena on strategy one you can see this
14674:49	manifest in several ways
14684:52	recent outcome recent speeches major speeches by elder oaks another cook and
14694:56	others carried by world media underscoring that religious freedom is
14705:01	under siege and that the church is taking a stand our social media and
14715:06	websites carrying an introductory series and a lot of news and and commentary on
14725:11	this point the Deseret News editorial board speaking directly on the need to
14735:15	protect religious freedom again warning members of the church in the world
14745:20	the second strategy is defending legally the church has stood by the Becket fund
14755:27	the public interest law firm specializing in religious freedom
14765:32	matters elder Lance Wickman has now become a member of the board of
14775:36	directors there are a number of prominent members of the church you
14785:38	serve important roles there they were a very important part of the Hosanna table
14795:43	case but in addition to our support of the Becket fund amicus briefs were filed
14805:48	on a regular basis under which this the church plays a very important role in
14815:52	both coalescing and organizing and riding those briefs strategy 3 and this
14825:59	is the discussion that we will engage in most today is engaging with allies in
14836:04	the public policy arena after receiving the instruction to be a chorus not a
14846:11	soloist we reached out to our good friend professor George you'll see on
14856:17	the screen a picture of his Eminence Timothy cardinal dolan the archbishop of
14866:22	New York in consultation with Cardinal dawn Robbie rod George
14876:30	crafted with him a strategy to begin to work closely with us they made they
14886:37	helped us understand that the Catholic Church operate somewhat differently than
14896:42	ours and that within the US Conference of may have of of Bishops there would
14906:48	not be a uniform response to this issue and that perhaps it would be better if
14916:52	we were to engage informally outside that structure with our religious
14926:57	freedom committee and so our efforts began to build that way i mentioned
14937:02	previously that part of the last six months has been has seen the
14947:05	contraception issue that galvanized in a very real way the catholic church's
14957:11	response on religious freedom and made it a very important priority of the US
14967:15	Conference of Catholic Bishops and meeting that I had recently with with
14977:20	cardinal Dolan he asked me do you believe we're getting the institutional
14987:25	churches support adequately and as we discussed it he said I think now is the
14997:29	time for us to move from this less formal structure into a more formal
15007:34	structure and I hope that that dr. George will comment on that a very
15017:39	important development because as you'll see later they've begun to use what they
15027:44	call their ad hoc committee as the means by which they will engage at with us on
15037:50	this issue in partnership then with the Catholic Church we developed at the
15047:55	ethics and Public Policy Center what we call the American religious freedom
15058:00	program or a rfp the purposes of a rfp are to educate to prevent further
15068:08	erosion to expand statutory and regulatory protections on religious
15078:13	freedom a bit of a timeline on how that's proceed proceeded we had a in
15088:19	August we hired our first to staff member in November we held a public
15098:23	announcement of the launching of the organization in march we hired a state
15108:27	director that will be more clear in just a moment in May will have a national
15118:30	conference that will highlight the fact that this group is coming together to
15128:36	fight back and lastly in July we'll have our first set of what all excel
15138:42	introducing the moment as religious freedom caucuses and networks in the
15148:47	context of building a chorus of interfaith allies we have done so by
15158:54	inviting key religious figures and scholars and others to join and an
15169:01	advisory board and i believe you will see this truly is becoming a chorus in
15179:06	the faith community it is represented on from our church by elder L clayton al
15189:13	Whitney Clayton by the catholic church bishop Salvador cordial oniy who is a
15199:18	very well-respected advocate for religious freedom on the Southern
15209:23	Baptist Convention and dr. Richard land the orthodox christian orthodox
15219:28	christianity by Reverend dr. Chad Hadfield you will see that the
15229:34	assemblies of god George would a general superintendent and seventh day adventist
15239:39	rattle doing and Dwayne Leslie now I want to add that we do not have their
15249:44	formal agreement though they have both individually said they were inclined to
15259:49	but we're waiting for their church process to to bless that but we
15269:53	anticipate it will occur you can see we have representatives of Judaism Islam
15279:58	and then with a group of academics and political leaders john harvey the Garvey
152810:05	rather the president of Catholic University Mary Ann Glendon who is a
152910:09	respected scholar at Harvard University dr. Donald Landry and william p mumma
153010:15	who is the president of the of the Becket fund an important point that we
153110:20	are closely coordinating our legal strategy with our strategy to in the
153210:25	public policy arena and you'll see other noted scholars one stephen d smith was a
153310:31	member of our church
153410:33	Gordon h smith who of course a former US senator and Rabbi David Novak so a
153510:39	chorus is forming the new battleground for religious freedom is in the States
153610:46	what we need is organization on the ground
153710:52	and hence we are proposing the development or have begun to develop
153810:56	religious freedom legislative caucuses in each state and religious freedom
153911:02	state networks in each state now I'd like you to just visualize both pieces
154011:09	because they are independent but work together as they and we will win the
154111:15	mistake first of all the religious freedom caucuses these would-be caucuses
154211:20	made up of state legislators from both parties they would form they would they
154311:25	would be part of the formal legislative structure in that state and there would
154411:30	be leadership elected by the caucus members the religious freedom networks
154511:36	on the other hand the foundation will be volunteers from various faiths
154611:40	organizations the leadership will be appointed by a rfp and it will act as
154711:47	staff for the caucuses so if you could think of that foundation as being a
154811:52	coalition of members of our church the Catholic Church the seventh-day
154911:55	Adventists and others in the local area who then will form and support the
155012:01	religious freedom caucuses you will have the right picture a little more detail
155112:05	about the religious freedom networks again they will be chartered by a rfp
155212:10	this gives us a degree of centralized coordination and control it gives us a
155312:16	point of cola coalescence for the faith community itself and it will create a
155412:21	continuous some continuity among and between states in addition the functions
155512:28	of it will be to monitor and at the act for activity in to gather intelligence
155612:33	he's become listening posts in the States so that we begin to see things
155712:37	manifest earlier and we can get in head i get ahead of them and solve them
155812:41	before they manifest as problems it will be a means to organize and maintain
155912:45	religious freedom caucuses and it will advance a legislative agenda and what
156012:51	will the legislative agenda be well first we'll of course oppose bad
156112:54	legislation will introduce religious freedom exemption language where it's
156212:59	necessary and will support state Religious Freedom Restoration Act
156313:03	and other protective legislation the state like that religious freedom
156413:09	carcasses will as i mentioned be organized by by the by the network and
156513:15	we want we're working very hard to ensure that they are bipartisan and that
156613:19	they are multi-denominational their functions will be to provide an avenue
156713:24	for influence in each state will have members of state legislatures in each
156813:29	state who we have identified as being friendly to our purpose who can begin to
156913:34	not just listen but act proactively identify sympathetic officials it'll be
157013:40	a means by which we can channel a distribution of public messages and
157113:44	we'll have education vehicles that we can begin to keep up-to-date as new
157213:48	legislators coming together so we envision and hope we hope you can a one
157313:54	of these in every state now we have currently achieved beachheads if you
157413:59	will in 15 states vary and where various points in development we believe by
157514:04	December of this year will be in 25 states and by july of next year in 40
157614:09	states but will not stop until we end up with a religious freedom caucus and
157714:14	network in each state in 2013 will begin and that to build a religious freedom
157814:21	caucus in the united states congress and will begin working to develop what we
157914:27	hope will be a sec to be a populist movement there are millions of people
158014:32	members of many faith communities who feel deeply about this and we need to
158114:38	harness up the power of social networking facebooking and twitter
158214:42	twitter and all of the other means to be able to sound that alarm
158314:47	our vision is that will have a robust social media presence that will enable
158414:51	us at a rfp to direct the response toward legislators and members of
158514:56	Congress the media and others by the end of $MONTH 2012 we will have this
158615:02	standing we hope to have 500 contributors financial contributors who
158715:07	have given more than just their affirmation and online followers by 2013
158815:13	more
158915:14	and by 2014 who perhaps as many as 5,000 contributors making small donations and
159015:21	demonstrating a willingness to engage on this subject now let me just give you a
159115:27	sense of a hypothetical case on how we would hope this vision could unfold the
159215:32	picture you see is a building at Vanderbilt University Vanderbilt is a
159315:36	private university where the the administration responding to a Supreme
159415:43	Court decision has concluded that faith-based organizations on university
159515:48	campuses cannot participate in a in the usual way this is affecting the LDS
159615:53	essay for example they're having to move it off campus because they are deemed to
159715:59	discriminate in their policies because they don't believe in gay marriage if we
159816:07	had a rfp and it's full support at this point in time
159916:11	how would we react well state networks would be acting is listening posts and
160016:15	we begin to detect that a trend was happening in the marketplace of ideas
160116:20	then a rfp would conduct research and develop briefings and sample press
160216:25	releases and modern and model of legislation and would communicate to the
160316:30	state networks rfp would then develop op-ed pieces and blogs and state
160416:35	networks would begin to develop customized responses you could imagine
160516:39	in every state press releases going out with the names of supportive state
160616:43	legislators making comments about situations in their community not just a
160716:48	national response and lastly we would then turn on our social network and we
160816:53	begin to see twitter we begin to see people who use twitter and facebook and
160916:59	google+ and all of the other components begin to weigh in and be able to signal
161017:03	legislators others and media that that the faith community is standing up for
161117:08	religious freedom we have a national conference as i mentioned that will be
161217:12	held
161317:13	on the twenty-fourth our goal is very directly to communicate the message that
161417:20	the faith community is uniting and that we're fighting back at the conference
161517:27	will have attendees from various faith leaders from all of the denomination's
161617:31	you've seen mentioned and many others we will actually have state legislative
161717:35	representatives and potential network organizers from 13 to 15 states and of
161817:41	course we hope to have news media there too and expect to the program will be a
161917:46	panel series of panels on on current topics there will be a panel on
162017:53	religious live at religious for of religious leaders that elder Clayton
162117:58	will participate on chaired by dr. George there will be one among state
162218:02	legislators that will talk about what's going on at state and state issues
162318:06	religious freedom in the in the military
162418:08	all of which will drive toward this point that we're going to form religious
162518:12	freedom caucuses in every state because we're uniting and we're going to defend
162618:17	religious freedom that's the way rfp our three-part strategy and it's now my
162718:24	pleasure to turn the podium to dr. George who will give you his perspective
162818:29	i don't use PowerPoint I'm so medieval that I still tell time with a wristwatch
162918:39	unlike my students ooh don't know what wristwatches are but they tell times
163018:43	with the cell phones and i see that there are some medieval lists it out
163118:47	their money as well so if you don't mind I'll just sit here and get my present
163218:53	presentation1 again by saying how keenly i'm aware of the honor you pay me by
163318:59	inviting you to address this meeting I recognize that it's a very high honor
163419:05	for me the honor is increased by the esteem and affection and gratitude that
163519:12	I have for the LDS Church and for the individual members of the church too
163619:17	many individual members of the church at all levels that I've had the pleasure of
163719:21	working with since about $MONTH
163819:25	and eight uh I of course I want to pay tribute especially to the church for its
163919:32	heroic leadership and prop eight in the battle for marriage more generally and
164019:36	now in the in the battle for religious freedom are this is a an intense fight
164119:43	of many people think that it's a losing battle
164219:46	uh I don't believe that but it's going to be a tough battle to win but we would
164319:53	be in no position to win it on either front whether the marriage front of the
164419:57	religiously at liberty front and I'm going to talk a little bit about the
164520:00	relationship between those two were it not for the contributions that the
164620:03	church has made and the sacrifices that faithful LDS people have been willing to
164720:08	make around the country for these values that that we so deeply share across the
164820:15	lines of theological difference i want to thank Mike for partnering with me in
164920:22	this project which i think is very important
165020:25	it's been a great pleasure to work with mike on it he's a great leader mike was
165120:30	a hero of mine before I ever took his hand
165220:33	admin person and that's because of his leadership in putting into place when he
165320:39	was secretary of health and human services is very relevant to our
165420:42	conversation today conscience protections religious freedom
165520:47	protections in the regulations concerning federal regulations
165620:52	concerning abortion they were much-needed they were long overdue it
165720:56	was under Mike's leadership when he was secretary of HHS that they finally were
165821:01	put into place only alas to be abrogated uh-oh moments after the new
165921:06	administration took power but Mike led the way and god willing those
166021:12	regulations will be put back in place in the future and no one will need to
166121:18	reinvent the wheel will simply have to go back to what Mike accomplished Mike
166221:24	my colleagues at Princeton I think would have been tickled by your described
166321:29	describing my gentle manner
166421:31	I appreciated that I'm sure they would have been very amused by one of the
166521:40	first things I want to say is I want to affirm the importance of what Mike
166621:45	describes as working as a course rather than as a group of soloists a little
166721:51	while after i had the honor of giving one of the form addresses at Brigham
166821:54	Young University of cardinal francis george to my am not related by blood
166921:59	although i call Michael Francis came and he gave before address and at that form
167022:04	address he said many wonderful things about the importance of cooperation
167122:07	between the LDS in the catholic church but to me the most moving and important
167222:15	was when he said you know we have been strangers 430 years it's time for that
167322:20	to end and no longer will we be strangers will be friends and will be
167422:26	brothers will be working together and will be cooperating together and we'll
167522:29	be praying together and I just think that's beautiful and I think that does
167622:33	reflect my can correct me if I'm wrong I some of the other members of the of the
167722:38	leadership of the church I think can weigh on this as well this is what i
167822:45	find not only with cardinal francis george but Cardinal Timothy Dolan and
167922:50	with Catholic officials across the board here in the United States and in the
168022:54	Vatican the feelings of warmth and gratitude for the LDS Church even among
168123:02	those who still don't know very much about the LDS faith is palpable to
168223:08	anybody who deals with them and talks about the marriage issue with the
168323:10	religious liberty issue they know what the LDS have done to protect the
168423:15	institution of marriage and to preserve religious liberty and they like me are
168523:21	deeply grateful for it and that lays the foundation for much further cooperation
168623:28	now
168723:31	Mike mentioned that at the beginning of the leadership of the American Catholic
168823:37	Church believe that it would be best on there and for the LDS committee that
168923:41	Mike chairs to coordinate with an essentially led committee which was
169023:48	formed under my chairmanship although it didn't include Bishop Salvatore Corleone
169123:52	Mike mentioned and we have worked together fruitfully since that time but
169223:58	as the assault on religious liberty and i'm going to be very blunt with you all
169324:03	today your dear friends many of you are close friends
169424:08	there's no reason for me to be anything but honest with you so i'm going to call
169524:11	it what it is the assault on religious liberty since the assault on religious
169624:15	liberty began uh in earnest of the church the Catholic Church leadership
169724:24	has recognized that it's time for more formal cooperation with the church
169824:30	administrative structure itself and so in addition to the work that the LDS
169924:36	committee under Mike's leadership will be doing with my committee it will now
170024:40	be working with the at what's called the ad hoc committee on religious liberty
170124:45	which is being chaired by Archbishop William Lori who was installed today as
170224:52	Archbishop of baltimore now archbishop lori is a very important man in the
170324:58	Catholic Church he's a genuine leader he's what we call a john paul the second
170425:02	Bishop which means that said the bishop who is who is firm and joyful in the
170525:07	faith and very open to the world and especially to our brothers and sisters
170625:12	in other traditions who want to work with us so he's the ideal man now of
170725:17	course some of you will know from your US history that Baltimore for Catholics
170825:21	maryland in general but Baltimore for Catholics is very important so the
170925:25	signal being sent by the Vatican in sending Lori who is absolutely focused
171025:32	on the religious liberty question to baltimore in the current socio-political
171125:37	context is unmistakable
171225:39	it's very important and that Archbishop Dolan tells Mike that he wants my
171325:45	x committee now moving to the next level to be working more closely with the ad
171425:49	hoc committee and not merely with the late led committee that I chair is a is
171525:54	a wonderful thing I can't quite say Mike Misha because we're still going to be as
171626:01	there's still some work for the lay led committee to do but it's a very good
171726:05	thing that there will be work with the with the bishops with the bishops
171826:09	committee
171926:10	um I also want to point out since i'm on this topic of Catholic LDS relations
172026:15	which is something I believe in so deeply because i think there's so much
172126:18	fruit to b2b one from this both for your church and from my church and for the
172226:25	larger culture and the broader christian world while I'm on that i want to say
172326:30	that below the leadership level certainly in the intellectual world you
172426:37	find a degree of LDS Catholic cooperation that I think people 20 years
172526:41	ago would have thought is unimaginable so the work of Catholic scholars
172626:46	philosophers theologians sociologists working with LDS scholars people like
172726:52	Steve Smith fantastic scholar constitutional law scholar at the
172826:56	university of san diego catholic university actually I and and work with
172927:02	people like Steve by Catholics around the country is really tremendous
173027:06	especially in the family area one of the key issues that we have in common common
173127:11	concern the question of marriage the question of the family if you look in
173227:15	family sociology you see wonderful cooperation between Catholics and LDS
173327:19	scholars and I think that is something very much to be valued and to be to be
173427:24	promoted so it's not just at the formal hierarchy level that this cooperation is
173527:30	happening and should be happening it is happening it should be happening in the
173627:34	lower levels as well now on the issue that we're fundamentally concerned about
173727:39	today of religious liberty there is an assault going on the assault is part of
173827:45	a larger cultural struggle it has to do fundamentally with what it means to be a
173927:51	human being and whether or not we are under the sovereignty of a transcendent
174027:55	and providential god this
174127:58	is where the battle lines are drawn uh if we are under the sovereignty of a
174228:05	providential God who has spoken to man who has revealed himself to man a God
174328:13	who shares with us the divine power of loss of reason by which we can cooperate
174428:19	with him in achieving his ends his will for us then there are certain
174528:26	non-negotiables that are out there and the people of the LDS faith in the
174628:30	people of evangelical faith and the people of the Jewish faith and I believe
174728:34	people of the Muslim faith certainly people of the Catholic faith all believe
174828:37	this and that is that marriage is the union of a man and woman the human life
174928:43	is sacred and cannot be disposed of in a utilitarian manner that people's first
175028:48	and most profound obligation is to God and not to Caesar yes we will render
175128:55	unto Caesar that which is Caesars our Savior tells us that we will do it but
175229:00	our Savior also tells us that we are never to render unto Caesar that which
175329:03	is God's and for believers in a providential God has revealed himself in
175429:09	his will to us that is a non-negotiable the folks on the other side don't
175529:15	understand that they don't get it they think it's a matter of our stubbornness
175629:19	of Iran unwillingness to get on the right side of history of our refusal to
175729:26	go along with with what they regard as progress and so they think they can
175829:33	simply in the end force us to yield they think they can do that to the Catholic
175929:37	Church on the contraceptive mandate which mike as you know is not merely a
176029:41	contraceptive mandate it's an abortion drug mandate they somehow think that if
176129:45	they just stick it to the Catholic Church the church will in the end yield
176229:51	they haven't gotten hold of the fact that the Catholic Church can read people
176329:56	in the Catholic Church can read we can read the Bible we know what it says we
176430:01	cannot yet we will close our Institute believe me we will close our
176530:06	institutions before we will yield two
176630:10	something that we believe God has said no to now the Catholic Church is the
176730:17	largest provider outside of the government of health education and
176830:21	welfare in the United States on a per capita basis I suspect it's the LDS but
176930:28	there are lot many more of us for a moment there are of you so in absolute
177030:32	terms it's the Catholic Church imagine the consequences of the Catholic Church
177130:36	being forced to close its its institutions now people may say gosh it
177230:41	will never come to that
177330:43	who would have thought anything 40 years ago 30 years ago 20 years ago
177430:49	like what's happening now would happen I mean Michaels 30 years ago can imagine
177530:54	somebody saying a man will be able to marry a man and that if you don't go
177630:59	along with that you can have your accreditation pulled if you're an
177731:03	educational institution your license taken away if you're a sight
177831:06	psychologist or counselor was that imaginable 30 years ago that was
177931:10	manageable so it's more than imaginable that the Catholic Church the LDS Church
178031:17	other Christian denominations the people of the Orthodox Jewish based could be
178131:23	forced to close their institutions rather than conform to the will of a
178231:28	government that believes that it is on the side of a higher God then God and
178331:32	that is the side of progress for the side of of of history so this is the
178431:38	fight of our lives
178531:40	now one thing I plead with you to not accept because it's going to be put on
178631:49	the table it already has put on the table is what i call the grand bargain
178731:53	for those who cares we do deeply about religious liberty the following grand
178831:59	bargain will be offered if you will yield to us on marriage if you will
178932:04	yield to us on abortion on demand we will give you in return
179032:11	full protection of your religious freedom right so you won't have to
179132:13	participate in abortions and you won't have to bless same-sex marriages or have
179232:19	your institutions recognize same-sex marriages that is a fool's bargain
179332:26	there is no way it can hold or will hold all the ideas that gave you an abortion
179432:33	on demand began in the intellectual culture someone who was paying attention
179532:37	in the early 1960s could see which way it would go the ideas that gave rise to
179632:43	the sexual revolution to cohabitation to same-sex marriage to the divorce culture
179732:49	all began in the intellectual culture in the universities especially someone who
179832:54	was paying attention could see where it goes if we pay attention now to what's
179933:00	going on in the intellectual culture and especially in the university's elder
180033:06	oaks if we look at the law reviews and what is being published there we see
180133:11	very clearly because they feel they have no need to hide it where this goes
180233:16	got the substantive victories on abortion and on same-sex marriage first
180333:22	yield if you have to formal religious liberty of conscience protections and
180433:29	then we can spend the next 10 years
180533:31	one-by-one eroding them and taking them away because every recognition of
180633:37	religious liberty is an insult to the Equality of LGBT people what we are
180733:45	being offered in the grand bargain is no bargain at all it's a three-card Monte
180833:52	trick believe me and it will not hold you want to have the best way to defend
180933:58	religious liberty is defend the substance of values the respect for
181034:06	which has placed our churches and our people's religious liberty in jeopardy
181134:12	we protect the sanctity of human life in the end we will not have to worry about
181234:20	people forcing our physicians to perform elective abortions or to refer for
181334:26	abortions or dispensing park board efficient drugs if we win the substance
181434:30	of battle for marriage
181534:31	we will not have to worry about all the bad things that are going
181634:35	non now in the religious liberty area as a result of refusal to recognize
181734:40	same-sex marriages the accreditation is being taken away the licensing being
181834:45	taken away for having 2nd Massachusetts i just learned coming over here from
181934:49	from my friend Paul Edwards of Deseret News he now has a case that's been
182034:54	reported to the paper where young woman from from a family he didn't say whether
182134:58	it was an LDS or an evangelical or Catholic family i'll bet it was one of
182235:01	them in a Massachusetts School a family that believes in conjugal marriage
182335:09	traditional historic marriage because that's what her faith teaches that's
182435:12	what our tradition teaches that's her family's moral view
182535:16	well she subjected not only two gay propaganda all through the school's two
182635:20	moments at day of silence days to re-education with the old communist
182735:26	would call re-education training and so forth no that's not enough because she's
182835:30	a kind of shy girl we all know shy little girls and a little withdrawn her
182935:37	guidance counselor takes her in 12 years old to say well she's noticed she's a
183035:42	little shy and backward does this have done something to do with her sexual
183135:45	orientation
183235:46	what about the parental rights of those parents not to have their children
183335:52	subjected to something like that
183435:54	what about the religious freedom of those parents that all went up in smoke
183536:01	when the state of Massachusetts decided from judicial court of the state of
183636:05	Massachusetts decided to impose same-sex marriage and then from there of course
183736:09	the logic leads to that guidance counselor's office in that poor little
183836:14	girl 12 years old
183936:16	wish I enough already being asked by a teacher whether she's thought about her
184036:19	sexual orientation
184136:21	well I've gone on for too long but I appreciate very much the opportunity to
184236:25	be with you today and the honor that you have paid me the General Authorities of
184336:29	the church to give me the opportunity to be with you Michael you like to address
184436:35	some questions if there are any that would be pleased to do that I think I
184536:39	won't have a question I have a statement if they take little movable on these
184636:44	issues
184736:44	they do not notice never will budge on this tournament face if they think we
184836:52	will they know very little about amen god Bless You president at it
184937:03	sake is this question that financially you're you're thinking now you're going
185037:10	to broaden the donor base by trying to get smaller donations we anticipate your
185137:18	stand that this little better thank you
185237:20	we anticipate broadening it by seeking smaller donations
185337:24	here's the reality of smaller donations over a period of time you gain a lot of
185437:30	them but it costs some money to get them but what you get is not just a donation
185537:34	you get a subscriber who begins to pay attention to the issue and so will
185637:38	likely invest in building up both populations and hope to break even in
185737:43	doing it I'm hopefully at some point have a hundred thousand people who have
185837:47	made a donation and who will engage but we've also began to the process of
185937:52	seeking others who could make meaningful contributions I've had a very good
186037:57	meeting with the knights of columbus for example carl anderson has given us great
186138:01	reasons to be optimistic that they and fact may be willing to be of assistance
186238:07	and will seek others but our plan is to seek both large and small donations
186338:12	going forward
186438:13	yeah up the governor of the caucus and network strategy I may have missed this
186538:23	but is that going to be at the light level primarily or does that have
186638:26	institutional implications if you remember the diagram that was the
186738:31	foundation of the right of the network and on top of that the caucuses the the
186838:37	foundation of networks will be late people imagine a member of our church
186938:44	likely a member of Public Affairs Committee somewhere a member of the
187038:49	seventh-day adventist a member of the
187138:52	someone the Catholic councils that the right term probably one of the things
187238:58	that Bishop that Archbishop Lori has unlocked for us is an introduction to
187339:04	all of the Catholic councils in every area which is a group that deals with
187439:08	public policy matters and so we are now seeking them out to do the same as we
187539:12	would have our our public affairs council . someone who can be assigned to
187639:17	spend time there the family family focus on family the same the Southern Baptist
187739:23	Convention the same so each of these become in miniature what we're doing in
187839:29	in the parent of a rfp their primary function will be then to form a
187939:36	religious freedom caucus in the state legislature in some states they have a
188039:41	formal process for the state legislators actually provide leadership of the
188139:46	legislature to form that in those cases were doing it we want this to be of
188239:52	course bipartisan and we wanted to be as formalized as we can these people the
188339:58	legislators change a lot
188440:00	the idea is to make these more stable so that has these change we can educate
188540:04	educate and then service staff for them
188640:09	Robbie you we are primary effort here was to have a religious freedom and I
188740:14	think it's been covered well you've crossed over and I think they always
188840:16	will cross over to marriage in your chairman of the board of Nam as well as
188940:20	your relationship here as you look at Maryland and Minnesota and Washington
189040:26	can you just give us a snapshot of where you think things are in that at this
189140:29	point
189240:30	yeah absolutely are the most powerful argument that the media runs on behalf
189340:35	of those who would redefine marriage is that it's inevitable the redefinition of
189440:41	marriage is inevitable get on the right side of history you'll be left in the
189540:46	dust with the bigots and treated as if your bull connor unless you come along
189640:50	our time after time when that's but to the people whether in liberal states
189740:54	like California are four main uh or Wisconsin it's defeated
189841:01	constable marriage prevails most recently unveiled by 61-39 vote in North
189941:06	Carolina this is a state that is trending more in the liberal direction
190041:10	although it's a southern state of lots of folks from the Northeast move down to
190141:14	get good high-paying jobs down there it's got a large student population in
190241:18	places like Durham and Chapel Hill uh it was thought to be a place where uh a
190341:25	marriage referendum would actually lose the other side port an enormous amount
190441:30	of money and we were being outspent down there by three two one
190541:33	we've always something like that arm and we were still able to win and it was
190641:38	state president obama carried last time were able to be able to win it in a
190741:42	landslide up but each of those victories requires a campaign and those campaigns
190841:50	require financial support we don't need to spend at the level of our opponents
190941:55	they cannot spend us 3i think they cannot spend a sport and one and we can
191041:58	still win but we need to be enough in the game we need the resources to be
191142:02	able to get our message out
191242:05	we know the message that works and it's basically just tell the truth about
191342:08	marriage so we know what works we can do it we can win as long as our side
191442:14	doesn't lose heart and lose hope and by the other side's back ourselves into the
191542:19	other side's believe that this is inevitable
191642:23	we also need first-rate people now there were so fortunate to have Frank Schubert
191742:26	was run campaign starting in California and just one by this landslide in in in
191842:32	North Carolina and uh we have formed an organization a company called mission
191942:38	public affairs you know about it
192042:40	elder cook and we hope the church will support mission public affairs become
192142:44	part of it because you do need first-rate people are in each of these
192242:49	places to win the battles you can't have a situation where in every case you've
192342:56	got local people who have never done this before up against sophisticated
192443:02	highly trained well-financed national people who've done in 15 or 20 times
192543:06	that's what needs to be defeated and that's what mission public affairs
192643:10	appears is designed to defeat very quickly on the legal front
192743:14	of course we're still concerned about what will happen as a result of the UH
192843:20	challenge constitutional challenge to prop eight California that was of course
192943:26	overturned by a district court that district court has been affirmed in a
193043:30	very funny elder oaks a very odd opinion by Justice Ryan are very carefully
193143:35	crafted opinion trying to save it
193243:39	uh trying to save the lower court's judgment in the case it's now on
193343:45	petition for on bonk reviewing the night circuit will eventually end up in the
193443:48	supreme court of the united states i have some confidence because I think
193543:53	events are conspiring to make it very unlikely that sprinkle the United States
193643:57	will go along with an invalidation of prop eight so I'm cautiously optimistic
193744:01	there things are a little more problematic on the cement Defense of
193844:06	Marriage Act front we'll have to see where that goes that's a series of cases
193944:11	around the country challenging the federal Defense of Marriage Act the
194044:14	federal Defense of Marriage Act is very important to defend for two reasons one
194144:18	it preserves the right of individual states like you tore my home state of
194244:22	West Virginia not to recognize before us to recognize Massachusetts or Vermont
194344:27	same-sex marriages and number two for purposes of federal law hit
194444:31	institutionalizes the constable conception urges the company Union
194544:35	husband and and and wife
194644:38	the good news on that is we have a tremendous a lawyer Paul clemente who
194744:44	who who was the lawyer who did so brilliantly in the in the healthcare
194844:50	case you probably heard him on the on c-span is tremendous lawyer he did a
194944:55	great job he's doing a great job leading our fight and in doma so on that one I
195045:00	can't say I'm quite as optimistic as i am on Prop 8 but it's gonna be a close
195145:05	run thing is away all the five sorry you asked me about the four of referendum
195245:10	elder cook UH Minnesota things are looking good
195345:14	we seem to be consistently up by about five points there that looks like 5545
195445:19	which is what Wisconsin looked like toward the end a few years ago when it
195545:22	ended up being 5941
195645:25	maryland there everything is going to depend on the black clergy and i think
195745:30	that the black clergy have been energized by President Obama's to them
195845:34	shocking to me not shocking announcement that he was in favor of same-sex
195945:39	marriage I've been stunned by been in touch closely in touch as you can
196045:42	imagine the past few days with our black clergy leaders and the marriage movement
196145:46	around the country and they were general Davis genuinely believe President Obama
196245:50	when he said that he was against same-sex marriages they're absolutely
196345:52	stunned their outrage
196445:54	so our hope is that that this energy that they now have will carry us to a
196545:59	victory in in Maryland of Maine is gonna be difficult then it's absolutely
196646:05	imperative that we win in Maine if we lose in Maine that's bad for two reasons
196746:09	one it would be our very first loss and we'll feed the media narrative of
196846:13	inevitability number two it's the first time the other side took the issue to
196946:19	the people in every other case 32 out of 32 we took the issue to the people
197046:24	they're saying we want to take the issue to the people were confident enough in
197146:28	our own position that will let the people decide so we have to win there
197246:32	where our organization on is active in in all of those areas were stretched
197346:36	beyond our limits we need help but were where were in the fight
197446:41	thank you that's for you
197546:45	you said that the roots solution is to establish the core values such as the
197646:51	sanctity of life you've referred to that the class you orthodoxies pass but how
197747:00	do we do that maybe what you just said is part of it but what is it that it's
197847:04	going to take to persuade the majority at least of the necessity of those
197947:11	values being ones that government you know it's very interesting
198047:14	um I got into I was always interested in ideas even since I was a little kid but
198147:21	I got into activism was about 14 years old my dear mother recruited me into the
198247:26	pro-life movement and she was going to meetings
198347:30	my mother's not an educated person my mother had been to college or anything
198447:33	like that but she felt very strongly about sanctity of human life and and
198547:36	and started taking meetings when I was 14 years old the local pro-life group in
198647:40	west virginia and you you're the some of your old enough to remember in those
198747:47	times it kind of looked away marriage look today there was a movement sweeping
198847:51	across the country for abortion an abortion was a humane solution to
198947:55	women's problems and so and became a feminist cause although in the 19th
199048:01	century the feminists were leading the opposition to abortion is very
199148:04	interesting they did a flip
199248:06	same with the American Medical Association and there were even
199348:09	conservatives who said well abortion will be a good thing because it's going
199448:12	to keep down the number of welfare people and and so forth and we were told
199548:18	i remember this even as an adolescent we were told history is against you
199648:23	history is going to move toward more legal abortion it's going to be like
199748:27	Europe there's no stopping it it's just a few elderly priest mostly Catholics a
199848:33	few elderly clergy who are opposed to it and that young people are all for it and
199948:37	when that old priest and old people die out there people won't even think twice
200048:42	about abortion look at where we are today more than half of americans
200148:46	identify themselves as pro-life and our young people even in places like
200248:50	Princeton are more pro-life than their older relatives the kids are more for
200348:54	life than their parents and other reasons for that sonography these are
200448:58	kids who grew up with a sonogram they have pictures of their little babies and
200549:01	even themselves little baby brothers and sisters in the womb and so forth and so
200649:05	on the pro-life movement has played it very smart incremental strategy pushing
200749:10	back elective abortion and so I think that that all the signs look very good
200849:16	we're making progress in the States we have lots of good pro-life laws course
200949:21	we have to get rid of Roe versus Wade to do something finally decisive but my
201049:24	hope is it's very realistic hope that we'll have a future president will make
201149:28	the supreme court-appointed appointments that will will do that now things look
201249:32	very different on the marriage front things look more like they looked on the
201349:38	abortion front back in the nineteen seventies but i think what that chance
201449:43	your question the key thing is people need to understand the critical
201549:47	importance of having a mother and a father for rearing children when people
201649:54	take on board the unique contributions in parenting made by the mom and by the
201750:00	dad that will be the thing that that breaks that the damn people now are
201850:04	intimidated by the arguments on the other side they want to be called bigots
201950:07	they don't want to be thought of as unsophisticated people religious
202050:11	fanatics or fundamentalist and they don't know what to say when people say
202150:15	well you know two men can raise a child as well as to a man and a woman the
202250:22	social science will continue to show something decisive will be out within
202350:26	the next three weeks we still as it's going to be making a presentation about
202450:32	this later to your public affairs people right now everything secret embargoed
202550:36	but important information important studies coming up
202650:40	jun 11 that will really quite decisively show in a way that has never been shown
202750:46	before it was a massive study the importance of having a male and a female
202850:50	parent mother and father and I think that's the message that's the winning
202950:55	message in the intuitively people know that intuitively people no because they
203051:00	were most people raise my mom and dad they know what their mom contributed and
203151:03	what their dad contributed brad wilcox is a great great Catholic sociologist at
203251:08	the University of Virginia who works with Jason Carol's LDS person at BYU
203351:12	brad wilcox says there's no such thing as parenting is only mothering and
203451:20	fathering and mothering and fathering are so different that parenting is just
203551:26	a construct it's not a reality no such thing as parenting there's what mother's
203651:29	doing what father's to let me see if I can make this question clear and it's
203751:37	for everybody but governor love it you may be best to position to respond to
203851:41	this initially what does the engagement of ordinary latter-day saints look like
203951:48	in the battle for religious freedom so if we go to prop eight we talk about the
204051:54	institution but ultimately boils down to a mom and
204151:57	daughter standing on the street with the sign while people yell at him spit out
204252:01	and do stuff
204352:03	what does the engagement of ordinary latter-day saints look like in the
204452:10	battle for religious freedom you have thoughts about all of you but what are
204552:14	your thoughts about what does that look like I have thoughts about this i think
204652:18	there's a day when using the the social networking media that hundreds of
204752:27	thousands of members of our church can engage in this debate in a very
204852:30	important way I i mean i'm involved a bit now when I go to large events for
204952:36	their crowds and media and I stand behind them and I see the writers and
205052:44	they all have their laptop up and when i stand behind them i can see uniformly
205152:49	they're looking at the Twitter feeds that's what they write from there
205252:56	looking for the hashtags to see who's doing what
205353:00	there is a movement of mommy blogs that that many many many lbs mothers are now
205453:10	participating in some of which have wide circulation and interest they need to be
205553:17	writing about mothering and fathering about the importance of religious
205653:20	freedom that's the way the average member of the church I think begins to
205753:24	engage in this there will be moments in time when a piece of legislation comes
205853:28	up to the religious freedom caucus they need to be able to call and know who
205953:33	they are and how to call but this is a this is a a tool that will allow
206053:39	ordinary people to be heard
206153:42	we end would you agree or disagree that we have an absolutely overwhelming
206253:47	resource with the rank-and-file latter-day saints given what you just
206353:52	said I absolutely agree president we have used our time up
206453:57	we want to thank you for coming
206554:02	that most constructive the voltage marring telling us to get to work and do
206654:08	something
206754:09	thank you very much breaking out of there now I began where believe what we
206854:14	began that this on these issues we will not budge
206954:19	that's understood I think I membership understand it because finances cause
207054:26	time and so I will do that we will not much and we will fight I will fight i
207154:34	suspect that those books in front of you were probably copy of the book of mormon
207254:38	a copy of the Bible in the Bible Jesus tells us essentially what it means to be
207354:47	a follower and it's a hard message but what he says listen the version that
207454:53	I've always read is it means taking up your cross and following him didn't say
207555:00	it's going to be easy and pleasant people of us throw flowers around our
207655:04	necks in things hard teaching take up your cross and follow that's what it
207755:08	means to be his disciple to me
207855:10	pokemon said is not common for the more part of people deserve that was not
207955:15	right
208055:16	we believe that
2081
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2083Mormon Leaks 
2084Title:	In Which They Fret Over the Growing Popularity of Marijuana
2085LDS title:	Marijuana
2086Recorded:	11/11/2010
2087Length:	8:36
2088
2089Transcript
2090English (Automatic Captions)
2091
20920:01	last Tuesday voters in california arizona oregon and South Dakota voted
20930:08	down measures proposing the medical use for legalization of marijuana but as
20940:14	Paul Harvey would say there's more to the story variously spelled the word
20950:20	marijuana originates in mexican spanish the Oxford English Dictionary sites its
20960:25	first printed appearance in 1873 marijuana as you know is also kind of
20970:31	commonly known as cannabis hemp Mary Jane 14 US states have decriminalized
20980:37	some marijuana use regarding so-called medical marijuana in Arizona 50.3
20990:48	percent voted against allowing residents with specific medical conditions to be
21000:53	treated with certain amounts of marijuana for personal use in Oregon 57%
21010:57	voted against establishing a supply system of license dispensaries and
21021:02	producers and in South Dakota 64% board against legalizing marijuana possession
21031:09	use distribution of cultivation in california which of course has medical
21041:15	marijuana dispensaries and pays a reported 100 million dollars in medical
21051:20	marijuana taxes fifty-four percent of citizens also voted against proposition
21061:25	19 also known as regulate ctrl + tax cannabis Act of 2010 the Act would have
21071:32	allowed adults 21 years or older to possess cultivate and transport
21081:37	marijuana for personal use to put the initiative on the ballot California's
21091:42	supporters submitted 694 thousand signatures well over the 434 thousand
21101:50	required maybe we can just take them in and put four elements and broader
21111:55	perspective one the marketplace of debate needs credible voices and solid
21122:01	arguments i just did a very skur sri summary of the kinds of materials that
21132:07	were produced in California on this and it's not surprising how many different
21142:12	voices on so many different positions that
21152:14	are in today's media world some provocations do not deserve response at
21162:21	the same time I was started in the California marijuana debate even very
21172:25	unlikely arguments gained perhaps some credibility because they were repeated
21182:31	unchallenged for example quote unlike alcohol no death sort of ripped apart me
21192:37	are directly attributable Bolton marijuana use that to me just seems like
21202:42	a far-fetched argument yet that came up again and again and again in the
21212:46	literature so on occasion that some of these things need to be refuted second
21222:51	moral authority can be lost if moral voices become just another position i
21232:58	was struck by some California media contrasting the drug policy Alliance
21243:03	how's that for a benign name drug policy alliance with the international
21253:08	faith-based coalition effectively the drug policy alliance in my view as a
21263:13	wolf in sheep's clothing and they used the faith-based coalition as rhetorical
21273:18	punching bag third marijuana proponents employed an effective double strategy
21283:25	whipsawing public opinion and gubernatorial Authority you may have
21293:30	seen despite the popular vote 1975 then Governor Jerry Brown now reelected
21303:36	reduced marijuana possession to a misdemeanor with a hundred-dollar fine
21313:40	on october first of this year Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger reduce the penalty
21323:47	to a civil infraction so whatever the voters were thinking the legislature i'm
21333:53	sorry the executive has already taken a different kind of action on 4th public
21343:59	opinion of course changes over time and it's particularly changeable when
21354:04	well-funded and well-organized single focus interest groups lobby over time
21364:09	through clever national and local legislative executive and judicial
21374:13	strategies these of course of that public opinion no on marijuana and yes
21384:18	on marijuana iris truck that we sometimes focus on the high-intensity
21394:23	battle but we also have to make sure that we
21404:26	when the long-term war you can win each battle along the way but if missed the
21414:32	long-term war then we end up in the wrong place church implications
21424:38	I happen to be in California last Tuesday on election day i was reminded
21434:44	of the ongoing opportunity to help our members and their families understand
21444:48	gospel doctrinal reasons for the hope within them
21454:52	we generally defined to take a specific example the word of wisdom to include
21464:56	tea coffee alcohol and illegal drugs common sense dictates that not every
21475:02	foolish action need specific a petition such as not jumping into an empty
21485:08	swimming goal that said I wonder if it makes sense if it would be helpful to
21495:14	our seminary students or young LDS members in California elsewhere to be
21505:19	clearly reminded that popular classification of a substance as legal
21515:25	or illegal is not what determines obedience to the word of wisdom and it
21525:30	reasons of course the question of medical use of marijuana today's update
21535:36	comments or questions LOL so jensen and I had a priesthood leadership conference
21545:42	in Colorado Springs last Saturday and it was time for their question-and-answer
21555:47	session the very first question was medical marijuana Church's position
21565:51	that's never happened to us before this morning
21575:58	physical therapist that I work with you also posted at the hospital Logan City
21586:04	as a patient 27 years old that's 12 only these unmet and he said that the woman
21596:15	comes to see him once in a while about a three-year-old girl that just placed a
21606:20	wasted life can understand or greater emphasis on getting rid of tobacco tin
21616:29	star
21626:31	project increase marijuana so inconsistent I understand there are 14
21636:38	states I believe that allow medical and it's so easy to get a hold up now that
21646:44	young people are saying they get there one more easily than alcohol which is
21656:50	constructed regulator but marijuana's kind of a underworld
21666:55	well but what answer did you get the elder nelson on the mid agents and
21677:00	handled it and it we just said that we have a bishop who is the judge in Israel
21687:12	and he has the scriptures and the handbooks and that he would counsel with
21697:17	the individual and teach him about the word of wisdom with the decision there
21707:22	between him and the board and at the churchmen position church has no
21717:29	position that is country has no position specifically on medical i'm back on
21727:35	medical medical marijuana generally no I'm medical marijuana that was class
21737:40	president when you raise the matter of math that opens a whole different world
21747:45	because that young Housewives can cook up on their kitchen burner and you
21757:51	remember some years ago I think brother Alex Morrison was doing a lot to get
21767:55	into that in this community about how widespread to widespread that was along
21778:00	the Wasatch Front when the revelation was given that revelation says given as
21788:10	a principal with a promise and it was not really considered a law until the
21798:17	administration of Joseph Smith when he had presented in general conference the
21808:23	proposition that it the word of wisdom be considered as a lot of the gospel
21818:28	voted on and passed
21828:32	alright
2183
2184========================================================
2185Mormon Leaks
2186Title:	Addressing the Problem of Mormons Marrying Later in Life
2187LDS title:	Marriage Myths and Facts
2188Recorded:	2/21/2007
2189Length:	6:13
2190
2191Transcript
2192English (Automatic Captions)
2193
21940:03	you know repeated often enough a myth can become a fact in the popular mind a
21950:11	blurred line between myth in fact can in fact shape important expectations
21960:17	regarding marriage
21970:18	perhaps you are dismayed as I was by the January sixteenth New York Times
21980:26	headline front page which red 51-percent of women are now living without a spouse
21990:33	the story went on to say up from thirty-five percent in 1950 and
22000:39	forty-nine percent in two thousand quote probably for the first time more
22010:45	American women are living without a husband then with one dismayed came on
22020:50	two fronts first that so many women were living without a spouse and second that
22030:57	the article seem to take some glee in proclaiming that many of these women
22041:02	quote were delighting a newfound freedom
22051:05	end of quote what's interesting is the story turns out not to be true
22061:11	well marriage is under pressure it is untrue that a majority of us
22071:17	marriageable age women are living without a spouse in typical are Connick
22081:22	fashion when the New York Times retracted or modified its story it said
22091:27	simply that it's earlier calculations were based on women quote 15 years and
22101:33	older it makes sense if you include 15 to 17 year olds that the numbers would
22111:39	be skewed because of course ninety percent or more of the 15 to 17 year
22121:44	olds live at home with their families and are not married in fact as you see
22131:48	the 2005 census shows that 56.9 percent of women over age 18 a more marriage to
22141:57	belay JH are married and fifty-three percent have a spouse present among
22152:02	women 32 34 years old 67.3 percent are married and among women 35 to 39 again
22162:09	the important marriageable ages the US census indicates 70.5 percent mirror
22172:14	another example of media myth becoming fact is the now infamous New York
22182:20	Newsweek story the marriage crunch you may remember this the data used was
22192:27	early data from yale and harvard researchers and they projected that the
22202:32	chances of a 30-year old white college-educated single woman marrying
22212:36	were twenty percent and we all remember this still quoted tagline the chances
22222:42	that are 40 year old woman would be married were quote she was more likely
22232:47	to be killed by a terrorist than to marry that also turns out to be untrue
22242:52	on the 20th anniversary of its earlier article news we corrected itself in a
22252:59	new cover story why we were wrong
22263:02	rethinking marriage after 40 the update recognized ninety percent of baby boomer
22273:09	women and men either have married or will marry a ratio that's well in line
22283:14	with historical averages it also noted
22293:17	according to the 1996 senses a single woman at age 40 had a 48-point a 40
22303:23	point eight percent chance of eventually marrying much higher than the 2.7% they
22313:28	had initially calculated it is true that patterns of hanging out
22323:36	don't help marriage is elder oaks defined hanging out consists of numbers
22333:41	of young men and numbers of young women and some group activity it is very
22343:46	different from dating also as you're aware for some young adults hanging out
22353:52	can lead to hooking up variously defined in terms of forms of physical expression
22363:58	without commitment
22374:00	also as you see US census data shows that the percentage of men and women
22384:05	over 18 never married is in fact still rising from 26.8 percent 228 . two
22394:13	percent for men and 19.4 220 one-point-six percent for women in even
22404:19	only the last decade we note that both total number of women and total number
22414:25	of women never married is increase
22424:27	sing the 21.6 percent over 80 never married translates into 24 million
22434:33	318,000 individuals never married across all marriages lage groups terms of
22444:42	church implications you've discussed in great detail that though we like the
22454:46	world's trend LDS men and women are marrying later and having fewer children
22464:52	speaking from someone who's on the BYU campus it's very clear that the lemons
22474:57	are very real for many of our young men and young women or young adult women who
22485:02	want to serve missions but not miss Eric marriage opportunities for young men and
22495:07	young women who want to pursue education but not allow education or debt to delay
22505:13	marriage or children and those who want to plan but we do not need to see the
22515:18	whole future before making faithful decisions on family and marriage today
22525:23	you know that many of these young women and young men listen very carefully to
22535:28	what you say in teach so as the recent and sign reprinted elder oaks article on
22545:34	timing it's so helpful when you continue to teach those correct principles indeed
22555:40	separating marriage myth in fact may help our young LDS adults maintain the
22565:47	faith and hope they need as AC can connect to marriage today today's update
22575:54	comments or questions thank you
22585:58	well we're glad you improved everything ok
22596:04	sometimes the glasses more than half full yeah thank you thank you
2260
2261========================================================
2262Mormon Leaks 
2263Title:	In Which They Discuss Politics With Senator Gordon Smith
2264LDS title:	Washington Public Affairs
2265Recorded:	2/18/2009
2266Length:	48:38	
2267
2268Transcript
2269English (Automatic Captions)
2270
22710:00	brothers were honored to have with us today going Smith about party these two
22720:08	rather than this form models work for public affairs and for the church in
22730:14	general it's a privilege to have them here we've asked Ralph he would
22740:18	introduce our wonderful senator so pleased to have you with us now turn it
22750:27	over to you brother but not the computer is Senator we appreciate it
22760:34	dear brethren I have known senator Gordon Harold Smith now a youthful 56
22770:47	years of age since he was a boy to when his parents milan d and Jessica you doll
22780:54	brought their large family from the east to the east Morgan to Washington where
22791:00	milan his father became chief of staff to the Secretary of Agriculture is to
22801:05	have Benson so for the next 17 years washington DC was beyond Gordon's home
22811:12	there then followed a glorious mission to New Zealand a temple marriage to the
22821:18	love of his life Sharon graduation from BYU law school and editorship of the law
22831:25	review a clerkship with the new mexico supreme court and finally private
22841:31	practice but it was not to last very long
22851:34	not even two years later and still in his twenties Gordon cobble together the
22861:42	funds necessary and summoning all of his powers of advocacy persuaded creditor
22871:49	banks to let him rescue and near-bankrupt family frozen food
22881:53	business and he succeeded magnificently today
22891:58	Smith frozen foods packs nearly twenty percent of the nation's frozen peas
22902:04	carrots and other vegetables in fact he learned well certainly as two peas his
22912:11	father's maxim many Archie
22922:13	old but fewer frozen then true to his heritage as a member of one of America's
22932:22	great political dynasties and following his service as a bishop in this church
22942:29	Gordon was elected in 1992 the Oregon State Senate where he became the senate
22952:34	president in 1996 Gordon was elected to the United States Senate where he served
22962:41	with great distinction for 12 years think of it what it means to bubble up
22972:46	out of that state where we have so few latter-day saints to the position of the
22982:51	United States Senator through service on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
22992:57	which I think was is his first love in the Senate and other powerful committees
23003:03	committees such as finance commerce and other committees he earned the affection
23013:09	and respect of colleagues on both sides of the aisle in the Senate Gordon became
23023:16	a skilled legislature and of greatest importance to this council today and in
23033:25	this sanctuary
23043:30	I stand as a witness of his tireless advocate advocacy for the vital interest
23053:41	of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints for in my experience
23063:48	he always stood ready
23073:51	first and foremost as I priest and as a covenant member of the Church of Jesus
23083:58	Christ of latter-day saint and receptive and able and willing to serve its most
23094:04	vital interest in Washington and in fact internationally though I can't remember
23104:12	any latter-day saints that were permanent members of his staff it was
23114:18	fair to say that his staff in the Senate was church broke in fact not many months
23124:24	ago his
23134:25	legislative director called me on the phone he said Ralph you haven't called
23144:31	us for six weeks
23154:32	what are we supposed to be doing Gordon Sharon Smith are the parents of three
23164:39	children all adopted and one deceased and they were soon welcomed their first
23174:46	grandchild
23184:48	Gordon was shortly join the distinguish well-known Washington law firm of
23194:54	Covington and Burling as a partner and he will continue to own his productive
23205:00	business in Washington but he has delegated that well to the stake
23215:05	president of the walla walla washington state who has run it for him for these
23225:09	many years while he's been in public service and is a great honor that I
23235:14	introduce senator Gordon Harold Smith thank you very much real for your way
23245:21	too generous introduction rather than I a mom I'm honored to be in your presence
23255:27	my parents milan Smith and Jessica Udall raised me with a fundamental principle
23265:34	and that is to follow the Brethren and so while i'm somewhat accustomed to
23275:39	speaking with with the United States senators and even presence the United
23285:44	States my stand humbly before you because I know who you are and I know my
23295:51	covenants and I know the role that you play in this world in building the
23305:57	kingdom of God and Caesars world that's the title that I used as an address to
23316:03	your Public Affairs Committee the other day a combination of committees I assume
23326:09	but building the kingdom of God and Caesars world is is a great challenge
23336:16	because the world could not be more secular could not be more unbelieving
23346:22	and perhaps in many ways the world could not be in a more calamitous condition i
23356:31	read to that committee a statement i would like to read to get to you
23366:39	and if you'll excuse me I've been losing my eyesight in the service of my country
23376:43	where is there a man that can step forth and alter the destiny of Nations and
23386:54	promote the happiness of the world or where is there a kingdom nation that can
23396:59	promote the universal happiness of its own subjects or even their general
23407:05	well-being our nation which possesses greater resources than any other is rent
23417:13	from Center to circumference with party strife political intrigues and sectional
23427:20	interest are counselors are panic-stricken our legislators are
23437:26	astonished our senators are confounded i can confirm that by the way our
23447:33	merchants are paralyzed are tradesmen are disheartened our mechanics are out
23457:39	of employ our farmers distressed and our poor crying for bread our banks are
23467:47	broken our credit ruined our state's overwhelmed in debt
23477:53	you might think that President Monson made that statement it was in fact made
23488:02	by the Prophet Joseph Smith not much has changed in terms of the world in which
23498:10	you have to do the Lord's work i would like to suggest to you and not as any
23508:19	definitive authority but what I regarded as my role as one who regards his temple
23518:27	recommend as more important than an election certificate when I went into
23528:32	politics I recognized that when the brethren would give conference talks
23538:39	about not engaging in contention that I was somewhat it cross purposes with that
23548:43	because it was a very contentious world in which i entered but i believe it is
23558:49	really important
23568:51	the latter day saints be encouraged to get involved in public affairs to the
23578:56	extent that they can stand it I remember serving as a bishop
23589:03	I've been serving four and a half years and a group of local leaders of my party
23599:10	businessmen and Pendleton Oregon came to me and said and may we take you to lunch
23609:15	may I said sure and they asked me to run for the state Senate they wanted to back
23619:21	me I told them that I was interested and had been since a little being a little
23629:26	boy growing up with a father who worked for eisenhower a mother whose last name
23639:31	is Udall but that I could not as a sitting ecclesiastical Authority but i
23649:38	told him i would get my wife's permission first and then go to my steak
23659:42	for president to see if it would be appropriate for me to do this so I met
23669:48	with president would and i told him i was being asked to run and that i wanted
23679:53	to but that I could not and should not do both things and would leave the
23689:58	decision to him he thought for a minute and then he said bishop if you want to
236910:04	run we will release you if you do not run we will fire you
237010:11	in retrospect I think he was a wise stake president and there are many
237110:16	brethren particularly in the Intermountain West who are underutilized
237210:22	in the church and maybe with an occasionally an odd shot would get them
237310:26	into public service because there is nothing quite as effective as one Ralph
237410:31	hardy calls me and says we need a meeting in Rome we need a meeting in
237510:35	Madrid we need a meeting in Belgium a u.s. senator can get those meetings and
237610:41	the latter-day saints tend to excel in all kinds of professions but not
237710:45	necessarily in the professions of government and having them in there and
237810:51	knowing that their temple recommend is more important than their election
237910:55	certificate is of inestimable value in terms of what i have seen but when they
238011:02	go into public life I would remind
238111:05	them to read the hundred and thirty-four section of the doctrine covenants
238211:08	because most of what we deal with in the public life is about stuff and its
238311:16	distribution the whole point of it is the pursuit of social justice
238411:22	how do you best achieve that and I often thought perhaps the Lord didn't care
238511:27	about those things but if you read the hundred and thirty-four section the
238611:30	doctrine covenants I think that this was for me a guide perhaps it is for other
238711:36	latter-day saints in public life said the Lord and verse 2 we believe that no
238811:42	government can exist in peace accept such laws are framed such laws are
238911:49	framed and held in violet as will secure to each individual one the free exercise
239011:57	of conscience to the right and control of property and three the protection of
239112:05	life if you'll permit me out speak briefly to each of those three areas
239212:10	that I think are the principles the Lord cares about and relationship to politics
239312:18	the free exercise of conscience is the first right of man if you're not allowed
239412:25	to believe certain things and have nearly unfettered right to practice in
239512:31	pursuit of your beliefs then government fails you and the church's ability to
239612:37	prosecute or proselyte its mission is retarded i believe one of the things
239712:45	that Ralph is called on me to do in Madrid and in Rome in India and in
239812:51	Belgium and other places in Russia have usually related to the issue of the
239912:56	freedom of conscience and the right of the church to have its representation
240013:02	there and to practice the faith that we hold dear that is under threat all kinds
240113:09	of place but what is essential to occur is the rule of law to occur
240213:14	I know and have been a critic of the Iraq war
240313:18	but i also admit to I voted for it because I felt the Lord's hand in it i
240413:24	hope it works out but i can promise you this will never send missionaries to the
240513:29	arab street until the rule of logs is in Arabia and it has taken root in Iraq and
240613:37	ultimately i think that if that succeeds there will be an opportunity to begin
240713:45	building the church in the middle east which is a deeply troubled place i'll
240813:52	give you an example early in the Iraq war i took occasion to go to Kirkuk it
240914:01	is in the northern part of Iraq in the Kurdish region when I went there into a
241014:08	mangy Jordan I was picked up in a military c-130 transport we flew towards
241114:14	Kirkuk and as we were preparing to descend the pilot informed me that the
241214:21	airfield where to land out and we're 200 Oregon National Guardsmen were awaiting
241314:25	meet to speak to them that it was under RPG rocket fire and he asked do I still
241414:35	want to go in and i had spent a lot of time going halfway around the world to
241514:39	go and talk to these Oregon soldiers so I said yes I think we better go in and
241614:45	we went in and the landing was so hard that the hydraulics of the plane broke i
241714:52	was hustled into a large bunker area where I spoke to these Oregon soldiers
241814:58	and after greeting them taking their mothers names and addresses the general
241915:04	informed me that our plane was broken and they were going to have to fly in
242015:09	another to get me out because these Rockets would come in periodically he
242115:14	asked if i wanted something to eat I said sure we went into a huge tented
242215:18	mess hall
242315:19	we got our food and the general I were walking through what was surely 2,000
242415:23	American soldiers looking for a place to sit out i heard call-out Bishop Bishop
242515:29	Smith I turned her
242615:32	out and I looked and saw one of my ronic priesthood boys in the arm in the
242715:36	uniform of an American army captain we had our sons of Mosiah greetings and
242815:44	then he after our conversation said are you going to general conference and i
242915:49	said if i get outta here oh hi
243015:52	why I will he said well if you do and you see any of the Brethren will you
243115:57	tell them that the Kurdish people are ready for the gospel and we've already
243216:01	baptized for I don't know if you've got their records but that there are
243316:06	baptisms occurring in iraq i believe the Lord's hand exist in the affairs of
243416:16	Nations i have seen it this captain gaily asked me to tell this story to you
243516:24	I had occasion to tell it to president hinckley and when I did tears coursed
243616:31	down his cheeks and he said senator are missionaries always follow in this
243716:36	footsteps of American soldiers the Lord governs in the affairs of nations even
243816:44	if the nation's don't know it so wars and rumors of wars there will be but the
243916:51	Lord is in charge just as he is in Iraq on a macro basis
244016:56	the second principle the right in control of property it is my observation
244117:04	and I'm not here to be political but is my observation that those parts of the
244217:10	world that become too socialistic become more and more difficult for our
244317:15	missionaries to find converts because the people in those countries look to
244417:20	government to live and not to God to live and our country and all others in
244517:27	Western society are beset by a number of enormous problems
244617:31	central to those is simply demographics we're not having children like we used
244717:38	to and the economic structures of the socialist welfare states of europe japan
244817:44	and and even to a more limited degree the United States these are pyramid
244917:52	schemes as Noble as are the the motives of Social Security Medicare and Medicaid
245017:57	which I have voted to support i must tell you that what can't go on forever
245118:02	won't and the awful arithmetic in relationship to entitlement programs the
245218:08	United States will ultimately by 2030 at least but the effects will be unbearable
245318:14	by 2015 will destroy the economics of the United States of America if they are
245418:20	not fixed they will have to be fixed and they will have to be fixed before that
245518:24	time because there will only be one department of government standing under
245618:30	current law and that's the department of health and human services and the
245718:36	government will exist as a transfer payment agency i don't think that this
245818:40	is sustainable but it's certainly something that you ought to be aware of
245918:46	thirdly the protection of life I i have the stripes on my back as a pro-life
246018:55	advocate in the state of oregon in the most pro-abortion state in america i
246119:02	believe the Lord cares about the sanctity of life i believe he cares and
246219:07	opposes abortion assisted suicide and all manner of genocide and i must say
246319:16	that in caring about this principle i know that the struggle you have with the
246419:22	issue of gay rights and lest I be and delicate about this i don't mean to be
246519:28	but I know I can only imagine how tiresome an issue it is for you early in
246619:34	my Senate career I had occasion to visit with President Hinckley president monson
246719:40	present fast towards the end of that interview I asked them if I could ask a
246819:45	question about this issue
246919:48	I told them that I had been characterized in my campaigning is
247019:53	disliking gays and lesbians
247119:56	I do not like this like
247219:57	them or anyone and I wanted to know where the boundaries are I told them if
247320:03	you want to know my position on issues in relationship to culture they could
247420:10	find them in my bishops handbook and those her how I voted but I said 22
247520:17	presently I don't unridden understand why I couldn't be helpful to them on
247620:22	issues like housing and and healthcare and and an employment and public safety
247720:30	and i will tell you the good and the bad of what i learned he told me those are
247820:39	fine and I should vote that in terms of my own Christian conscience because no
247920:45	matter ones transgressions in the public square we all need rights and we need
248020:50	protection of law and so I was able to make at least some alliance with the gay
248120:57	and lesbian community helping them on some issue but making clear from the
248221:01	beginning that when it came to marriage I would never be there for them when it
248321:06	came to teaching this issue two children I would always oppose them that seems
248421:13	sufficient for a time and this is the negative of helping you will never
248521:18	pleased them you can't win the argument with them because ultimately what they
248621:24	want is the secular sanctification of their relationships in law
248721:31	the problem with that is that marriage is an ideal that is certainly a
248821:40	commandment but it is an ideal that teaches the public that there is an
248921:44	enduring value to the foundational organization of a mother and a father
249021:49	and a boy and a girl and a dog and a cat in a house and when we mix that up and
249121:56	refuse that message societies that i have observed particularly in Europe who
249222:01	change this law they fundamentally change the incentives and relationship
249322:06	to marrying and building a home
249422:09	so while I have
249522:11	aight friends among the gay and lesbian community they turn from me when I voted
249622:16	to make it a constitutional amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman
249722:22	I think your audience is the larger American public not the gay community a
249822:32	larger American public agrees with you still in majority and I believe that
249922:38	that ought to be the focus of your of your words that there is an enduring
250022:44	value in an important spring beyond what society general and generally
250122:49	understands about marriage and it's not about consenting adults alone
250222:55	it's about the rearing and nurture children and the and the raising of the
250323:00	next generation of Americans I know it's hard to be called names to be protested
250423:08	I've lived it with it for 12 years and I know sometimes it might feel like maybe
250523:13	we ought to turn down the heat and I think where you can you should and
250623:18	there's probably second guessing about the wisdom of the position that the
250723:23	church took and proposition 8 but let me tell you there's always two sides to a
250823:29	political story there's opposition in all things and while the members there
250923:33	have taken eat and maybe our buildings have suffered some the political world
251023:40	take took notice of the church that when it does stand-up and its members deliver
251123:46	it is a force and there is an upside to that recognition in the powers-that-be
251223:53	in the world but at the end of the day rather than the issues i focused on our
251324:00	the freedom of conscience the sanctity of property and the protection of life
251424:06	because all of those things bear on God's children and His purposes for them
251524:13	and that is in my view the sum and substance of governments purpose and
251624:18	that was mine now in democracy you always get your say but you don't always
251724:24	get to win
251824:24	I am standard of living evidence of that principle and i thank god for the
251924:33	privilege i have had in public life and hopefully we have done some good let me
252024:40	close by telling you what i know of the Holy Ghost I know that God lives
252124:47	I know that jesus is the christ and I know what the prophet saw in the sacred
252224:57	grove and I know on your shoulders is the kingdom of God on earth i reverence
252325:06	that and I thank you for what you do and I bear this in the name of Jesus Christ
252425:12	I now I'd be happy
252525:16	president to take any closer to nature
252625:20	yeah their first of all I want to thank you for paying my budget and building
252725:30	fund for many years when i lived in idaho better explain that you never
252825:38	turned over their plan to our ward we produce speeches that we sold a potlatch
252925:44	forest and we could sell any number that would produce and pay for everything
253025:50	that we needed our particular war that's to god I hate even to change the spirit
253125:58	that you've created here center one
253226:01	what are the concerns as you've been there in Washington that you think we
253326:04	ought to be most aware of what are the forces that you're most concerned about
253426:07	is as a senator that that you think could really be difficult for us
253526:12	well one I mentioned which is secularism that is fueled by socialism I think that
253626:19	just counterproductive to an environment that is receptive to missionary work
253726:25	secondly I would say
253826:28	weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a fanatical branch of great religion
253926:35	that believes their purpose on earth is not to gain a body and to learn to
254026:41	choose between right and wrong but to die as a martyr probably by this year
254126:47	Iran may well have with their now I think 3000 centrifuges enough is this
254226:53	I'll material to create a nuclear bomb they have in their battle plans and some
254327:00	of this Navy classic maybe the 2009 date is classified still but they will they
254427:06	have the rocketry to hit Israel and the fight between Sunnis and Shias for
254527:13	supremacy in Islam sort of in their mind is to be won or lost based upon who
254627:20	district who exterminates the Jews Israel has nuclear weapons make no
254727:26	mistake about it in a conversation and frankly a friendship i had with ariel
254827:31	sure own we discuss this issue of Iran nuclear weapons and he said senator if
254927:38	the world thinks the Jews are going to burn again they need to understand we're
255027:42	not going to burn along so the formula for Armageddon probably comes out of the
255127:52	sunni-shia fight as to who this race to exterminate the Jews it's a very real
255227:59	issue and they don't care about human life and death they care about martyrdom
255328:05	and supremacy that's their tragic religious belief
255428:11	thirdly i would say you can look at the issue of demographics the Lord is in
255528:21	charge of economics to and I think his hand will be there but there will be
255628:28	great economic turmoil in the days ahead because of demographics it's simply
255728:35	unsustainable to continue these very politically popular programs with so few
255828:41	workers and so
255928:42	many retirees and that's just an arithmatic fact i think other issues
256028:51	that relate to the culture obviously say knows that if he can attack the
256128:58	principle of life that's central to that is a family and the family gets devalued
256229:04	if you change the definition of marriage and so I've already spoken to that some
256329:11	other issues that are subsets everyone of us believes in a clean environment
256429:18	and we ought to be more energy efficient and you spoke about that at the
256529:22	beginning of your meeting with this good professor my own experience with a
256629:29	radical environmental constituency in oregon is that environmentalism is &
256729:35	Noble as it is to a point at a point becomes a religion and it is it is the
256829:44	worship of the created rather than the worship of the creator and some of the
256929:49	schemes that relate to climate change whether accurate or not ultimately
257029:55	involve economic power and the redistribution of control of money and
257130:01	that's in my own view what cap-and-trade needs for washington DC a whole lot of
257230:06	money and has tremendous suppression of disposable income that people in America
257330:12	currently have
257430:14	so I would watch those the issue of energy is a tripwire it would be nice to
257530:21	be able to say that we can burn our groceries and get our gasoline we have
257630:28	learned sadly that you cannot do that effectively or efficiently the cost of
257730:34	ethanol for example is let's get it approaches and sometimes exceeds
257830:41	depending on where a hundred and fifty dollars a barrel
257930:45	it doesn't make money and it uses as much diesel to produce as ethanol that
258030:50	it creates so we were sold a bill of goods on that
258130:54	and the other alternatives out there all of which are good and Noble simply are
258231:03	not cost competitive so let's say ethanol is a hundred and fifty barrel
258331:08	which it is at least the Saudi cost of lift in light crude is two dollars a
258431:16	barrel you got our big gap there and their ability to damage those kinds of
258531:24	things is they just open up the spicket but we will reach a point on earth a
258631:30	tipping point where known reserves are simply being exhausted and we're not
258731:37	finding enough replacement and that tipping point may have already been
258831:41	reached
258931:43	but at that point I think energy becomes a spark for tremendous conflict so you
259031:51	have internal cultural decay in terms of just people standards you have economic
259131:59	stresses in terms of entitlements burdens on government and Taxation
259232:04	levels you have external challenges with terrorism and then you have obviously
259332:10	the issue of energy which is enormously fraught with peril as it relates to
259432:17	conflict between nations
259532:19	it's good thank you
259632:22	the center what do you see as the future of the Republican Party and in on what
259732:29	basis do you think it would cost to make comeback what changes would have to take
259832:34	place
259932:34	well I think we all as Americans and mostly Americans I believe in this room
260032:41	which President Obama well i wish i had more confidence in this economic
260132:48	stimulus plan that is out there but candidly everything in that bill is Penn
260232:53	pent up spending demand that President Bush and Republicans deny Democrats for
260332:59	the last eight years there's little in it that has anything to do with stimulus
260433:03	and tragically all of this set 800 billion dollars goes into baseline
260533:10	funding they're going to cut this next year and this is unbanked money that
260633:16	there aren't the tax revenues to support it and the Chinese and the Saudis are
260733:20	not buying our debt like they used to and so they will print paper and it will
260833:26	create inflation this is generational larceny that is occurring and it is
260933:32	accelerated again by are tight our entitlement arithmetic
261033:36	so while i wish the president well frankly my confidence in this succeeding
261133:43	is rather small but what I do believe the Republican Party will eventually be
261233:51	able to come back
261333:52	based upon Obama success or lack of it and you know there is opposition in all
261433:59	things and that certainly is true in politics and Obama has created something
261534:05	of a nightmare of expectations as those are not met he will run into more and
261634:11	more political head winds and does that occurs the Republican Party will rise
261734:16	again in the same former will have to make changes and reforms well all both
261834:21	the Democratic and Republican parties are uncomfortable coalition's the
261934:26	Democrats are labor unions environmental as trial lawyers and other assorted
262034:32	miscreants
262134:34	that judgmental i know the Republican Party our economic types they are
262234:42	Christian evangelical conservatives they they they tend to be culturally
262334:51	conservative people and so the republican party's ability to hold to
262434:56	Family Values
262534:58	well i'm glad i did i know i paid a political price for it in a secular
262635:03	state but i also know that today if you if Thomas Jefferson were alive
262735:13	Thomas Jefferson who is the founder of the Democratic Party would register as a
262835:17	Republican I suspect Abraham Lincoln it was the first Republican President
262935:21	probably would be a Democrat no one did more to grow central power of government
263035:25	or taxation or or pursue protectionism more than Abraham Lincoln
263135:32	fortunately save the Union so we forget all that other stuff so party you will
263235:38	watch parties over time simply change chairs and there will need to be an
263335:43	opposition and whatever uncomfortable coalition the republican party becomes i
263435:49	hope we hit it remains centered in family values and low taxation and and
263535:57	fiscal conservatism is appalling a job as we did I must not I'm make no excuse
263636:05	i simply offer the explanation that nothing happens in Washington that 60
263736:10	senators don't agree to and we never had 60 senators so everything that came out
263836:14	was a compromise and everything that came out of committee as a compromise my
263936:20	Democratic friends try to double on the floor so that they could accuse me of
264036:24	cutting budgets for the widows and orphans even though they were
264136:27	dramatically increased i would say this is elder ballard knives and elder cook
264236:34	have talked about your challenge in getting a fair shake for the church in
264336:40	the aftermath of proposition 11 your friends are Fairweather friends
264436:46	a coalition that the churches in the Lord tells us the doctrine covenants
264536:51	were to be independent of all things under the celestial world i don't think
264636:55	that doesn't mean you don't need friends
264736:57	Winston Churchill was right when he said the only thing worse than and then it
264837:03	then allies is not having any and the truth is the Catholics and the app
264937:08	angelical is our allies but to a point
265037:12	my experience with Catholic leaders the Cardinals i have met have been without
265137:17	exception and a great integrity scholarship and leadership on the other
265237:23	hand they they they lead a church that is in the American Catholic Church's
265337:28	libertarian they they preach to a congregation that doesn't believe what
265437:33	they teach on abortion or on the sanctity of the family among the
265537:39	evangelicals that you deal with and there are exceptions and I mean no
265637:44	disrespect and speaking to that up this way about them but many and maybe most
265737:50	that i have worked with run businesses is described in the Book of Mormon that
265837:57	are priestcraft these are cults of personality that are in the business of
265938:02	religion and they use the latter-day saints to make money and so if you
266038:07	expect them to come to your defense the church's defense in the public square
266138:13	you'll wait a long time and take a lot of stones and waiting
266238:18	so my own view is that use them as you can but as you look to the east where
266338:24	these measures that of the family are spreading you don't need to be as out
266438:32	front as you were in california i will tell you as someone with a lot of
266538:38	experience in lawmaking it's easy to introduce the legislation it's just as
266638:43	easy to kill it and where you will find your most likely success and killing
266738:48	legislation that goes after the principle of life isn't going to the
266838:54	Catholic fathers and saying who are your state wraps and state senators
266938:58	in $YEAR in new york who know how to kill a bill on the basis of a moral
267039:04	principle essential to the health of the American people and you can do it very
267139:10	quickly with them that way and you can do it arm-in-arm in them with them you
267239:15	go to the south and there are Southern Baptists who will meet with you on those
267339:18	terms and help us find the people the legislators who know how to get it done
267439:23	and that will lower the profile of the church little bit take down the
267539:30	temperature a little bit but I want to tell you as it as a member of the
267639:35	rank-and-file of the church
267739:37	I'm so proud of what you did and standing up to this principle and yes
267839:42	there's downside but there's upside that you represent the significant temporal
267939:48	force a west of the Mississippi that the world has taken notice of and so there's
268039:55	always some good and some bad and politics and the Republican Party will
268140:01	rise but the church of jesus christ of latter-day saints win in the end was a
268240:08	video question
268340:09	she's response when asked about the stimulus package really understand every
268440:13	feels about right now I would not have voted for but that isn't to say there
268540:18	are not many things in there that are worthy but it is hard for me to
268640:23	understand how this stimulates you all are very wise men and many school and
268740:29	economics if you want to help that this is why i registered as a Republican
268840:35	along with some family value reasons if you want to help grow opportunity to
268940:41	remember that every dollar that is in a community will turn over a multiplier
269040:45	effect four times if you take that dollar to washington DC if you're lucky
269140:52	you'll get 20 cents back and it will turn over in that community one time so
269240:58	if you believe the government actually runs the economy and create jobs then
269341:02	send it to Washington but if you really want to help people with opportunity and
269441:08	growth trust them to leave the money at home
269541:12	because it will do more good for more people more of the time and brother and
269641:18	perhaps closer I don't mean to take your time but i would just say I have great
269741:23	sympathy for the challenge which you have in communicating I remember feeling
269841:27	a lot of time going from being a bishop of 602 a senator bishop of 3.5 million
269941:33	people that I was always communicating i was always teaching I was always doing
270041:41	town halls but nobody seemed to be listening
270141:44	it's kind of like being the Undertaker or the greenskeeper in a cemetery
270241:49	you're in charge but nobody's listening i said i say that because i know you're
270341:56	teaching our kids not just the what marriage definition is but the y but you
270442:04	can't quit it has to be repeated with simplicity and clarity and at stake is
270542:12	the family and the if the double wins the war over the family's one
270642:17	thank you God bless you . do you make any comments
270742:25	I you know I think I've reflected my my views in my introduction of the senator
270842:35	and again what I just can't stress what it means to the church of jesus christ
270942:41	of latter-day saints to have five and which we've had five top of caring
271042:49	temple recommend caring high priest in the United States on it and a large
271142:54	number and housework is and it's what it means to the transaction of business to
271243:00	have access to be able to influence decisions to reach beyond our shores and
271343:08	as i said in my introduction what senator Smith is done and I could say
271443:13	the same for our other brother and of both parties
271543:18	it is of inestimable value to this church and i hope that in the days and
271643:24	years ahead that the miracle of these brother and being in Washington will be
271743:29	will be repeated and that worthy brothers and sisters of this church in
271843:36	this country and in other lands will rise up and find ways to be in elective
271943:42	office and to be able to help carry the burden because there is a political and
272043:49	economic component that is vital to get in how the church operates in the some
272143:55	of the critical getting decisions that are made as the church and other
272243:59	countries how it exists what we can do in this country i think there have been
272344:03	an elder wickman is a eyewitness of this and there are things that are miraculous
272444:08	that have happened for the church and I go back to what i used to hear elder
272544:14	Neal a Maxwell say so often that the Lord is in the details and we see in the
272644:20	details in government things happen that otherwise we would never think would
272744:24	happen because of intervention that is taking place and in this in this regard
272844:30	senator Smith has played a vital vital role its kind of his you know that of a
272944:37	point i would like to share with you this experience that was dramatic is
273044:43	anything i had as a bishop or as a missionary in New Zealand Ralph asked me
273144:50	to see if I could get an appointment with with the US the Indian ambassador
273244:56	of the United States pastor sin I did and they come immediately to a senator's
273345:03	office
273445:04	bathurst and is a very quiet and meat man a very nice person and I began
273545:10	meeting with rouse permission representing the United States in the
273645:15	growing india relate at us relationship sharing values like the freedom of
273745:21	conscience freedom of religious free exercise really important to the future
273845:27	between our nation's and then I
273945:30	represented that the church was not being treated fairly in india and
274045:35	ambassador send and I know and I price i was with elder oaks and I was with
274145:42	President Hinckley and I promised him i was going to do something and he said
274245:46	this is what I think just send your Indian converts to india and i said well
274345:53	i don't know how many we have and that's not a bad idea but surely we can do
274445:57	better than that the meeting broke up with him
274546:01	I think feeling guilty that he had not delivered on his promise to president
274646:06	hinckley he said let me think on this and they left my office is on a thursday
274746:12	on a friday morning i was putting my bag in my car to go to dulles airport flight
274846:19	oregon and i heard the phone ring and Sharon was already in oregon and i would
274946:24	knowing the answer it and I got in my car and i thought surely it's the staff
275046:32	a column on the way the airport and it's clear as you hear my voice I heard
275146:36	answer that phone
275246:38	I got out and answered it was ambassador sin he said I apologize for calling so
275346:46	much so early in the morning but i have been able to sleep all night and I've
275446:51	got an idea you send me the visas that you need for your missionaries and i
275546:59	will issue them over my signature and will establish it a pattern of feeling
275647:04	that will get around the india bureaucracy and he said how many need
275747:11	senator and I said thinking in my mind what we had 200 missionaries and my
275847:16	mission I said we need 200 there was a pause in the Gulf and he said okay send
275947:22	me 200 on the way to the airport I didn't call my staff I called our hardy
276047:27	and I hope your brother know that our heart is a lawyer but I don't know
276147:31	whatever doesn't legal work
276247:33	works full time for the church and I said Ralph if there's any way you can go
276347:40	to the ambassador's home he's expecting you codify this as best we can
276447:45	I believe we have a mission Indian l-222 it started from that meeting and this is
276547:52	the way that you ought to use my crapo this way out to you Terry read the way
276647:56	you ought to use orrin hatch and and and bob bennett these are great men these
276748:02	are great colleagues and their dedicated latter-day saints and it was my
276848:07	privilege to respond not often enough when you'd call you didn't call enough
276948:12	but when he did we saw miracles are very grateful to both of you have a great
277048:18	respect for both happy we know both of you and what you doing what you don't
277148:23	which is equally powerful so we extend our blessings to you for coming here and
277248:30	blessing us we've been very instructive and very move we bless you on your way
277348:37	thank you
2774
2775========================================================
2776Mormon Leaks
2777Title:	CHD reorg
2778LDS title:	
2779Recorded:	6/19/2008??? (Date unclear on slide)
2780Length:	1:38:00
2781
2782Transcript
2783
2784Automatic transcript not yet available
2785
2786
2787
2788========================================================
2789Mormon Leaks
2790Title:	In Which They Express Confidence That Kurds Will One Day Become Mormon
2791LDS title:	Kurds: Nation without a country
2792Recorded:	6/13/2012
2793Length:	11:57
2794
2795Transcript
2796English (Automatic Captions)
2797
27980:01	residents i begin the update that me it begin by expressing my thanks to you for
27990:08	the extraordinary opportunity I've had this past year participating in the area
28000:12	committee
28010:13	this will be my last update and it's been a great blessing for me thank you
28020:19	for the opportunity expect you to stay updated we'll do our best
28030:25	today's presentation Kurds the nation without a country when the assyrian king
28040:32	Daniel was asked by King Belshazzar to interpret the writing on the wall he
28050:37	told the king that because of his wickedness this is the Syrian nation
28060:41	would be overrun the Belshazzar would be defeated and the kingdom would be given
28070:46	to the Medes and the Persians and Medes are an ancient people occupying the area
28080:53	across Central Asia today that we know as northwestern iran azerbaijan and
28090:58	armenia they were mentioned by Ezra Jeremiah and Isaiah although the Medes
28101:05	began their rise to power in the seventh century CE Horace the great is seen as
28111:11	the first great median ruler governing from 6052 585 today's modern day Kurds
28121:18	consider CR is to be the father of their nation and people the Kurdish people
28131:23	king CA King crs empire which you can see here in yellow covered the area that
28141:31	we've described previously the capital city you can see in the red . in the
28151:37	center act batana was located midway between Baghdad inter on the meats
28161:45	practiced a religion called mazda is a more Zoroastrianism focused on have
28171:52	fight between good and evil and had a priesthood which was especially focused
28181:58	on reading the signs in the heavens they were known as the Magi the median Empire
28192:05	was overthrown by Cyrus the Great and 550 BC and the power of the Medes ebbed
28202:12	and flowed throughout the centuries that followed
28212:15	as we move into the middle ages the courage work that the Medes became more
28222:24	known as the Kurds the different tribes that assembled it evolved from being
28232:28	needs to Kurds and the courage were then conquered by the Arab ssin Islam was
28242:34	imposed in the ninth century AD but the Kurds re-emerged politically and
28252:39	militarily during the 10 through the 14th centuries the most famous of the
28262:45	curd Kings was a man named solidi who conquered western Turkey Syria and Egypt
28272:51	and drove the Crusaders from Jerusalem in 1187 ad after the 14th century
28283:00	British power went into decline and they live for several hundred years with
28293:05	varying degrees of autonomy under the yoke of the Ottoman rulers at the end of
28303:10	world war two the victorious Allies divided up the territory of the Ottoman
28313:15	Empire among themselves creating the boundaries of today's modern Middle East
28323:20	States this was done in a treaty negotiated called the Treaty of severus
28333:25	in 1920 the Treaty of severus and contemplated the creation of an
28343:31	independent Kurdish State Kurdistan the the proposed boundaries covered much of
28353:39	what had been their traditional homeland but that treaty was not accepted by the
28363:45	new rulers in Turkey and eventually a second treaty was negotiated in 1923
28373:50	which created today's political boundaries and the Kurds who are left
28383:55	where it left as a nation without a country you can see how they fit in the
28394:01	modern-day map as we look at where the Kurds are and what their population is
28404:08	there's about 38 million worldwide they make up twenty-three percent of Iraq 10%
28414:16	of Iran nine percent of Syria and twenty-five percent of turkey the Turks
28424:21	don't acknowledge that the Kurds exist they call them mountain turks and
28434:27	there's been a long
28444:28	going battle between them and the curt Turkish government
28454:34	there's also a large diaspora in Europe about 1.3 million Kurds and about
28464:41	500,000 the United States so you there's a population 38 million worldwide a
28474:47	nation the size of Poland with no country despite being separated by
28484:54	political boundaries the Kurds have remained a cohesive community with a
28494:58	distinctive identity
28505:00	they've been consistently engaged in efforts to gain their independence and
28515:04	to have an independent country by political and sometimes military means
28525:09	these efforts have been repeatedly and at times brutally suppressed by Turkey
28535:14	Iran Iraq and Syria the Kurds speaking Iranian dialect and have diverse
28545:20	religious connections including Sunni Muslims Christians and some remnants of
28555:25	Zoroastrianism culturally they're much more liberal than others in the Middle
28565:30	East women and men condensed together women are not required to cover their
28575:35	heads in 1991 the efforts of the courage to gain an independent nation gain some
28585:44	traction President Bush established a no-fly zone in response to Saddam
28595:51	Hussein's brutal repression of the Kurds including the use of nerve gas the Kurds
28605:57	of northern Iraq seize the opportunity to establish a relatively autonomous
28616:01	government for that reason they love bush and they love the United States
28626:05	after the overthrow of saddam hussein the courage with us support were able to
28636:12	negotiate the establishment of a semi-independent status in under the new
28646:16	Iraqi Constitution the Kurdish area known as the kurdish regional government
28656:22	has its own laws security and foreign relations it has been the most stable
28666:27	and safest part of Iraq since the US invasion the current president of Iraq
28676:34	has occurred
28686:35	july talabani as is the president of the KRG
28696:41	kurdish northern Iraq has become even more important with the emergence of the
28706:45	Arab Spring and the departure of US troops the day after US troops left Iraq
28716:51	the Prime Minister attempted to arrest the Sunni vice president of the country
28726:55	on charges of terrorism he fled to northern Iraq to the Kurdish autonomous
28737:01	region for safety and protection the same thing that many Christians have
28747:06	done over the past eight years Turkey Iran Iraq and Syria all worried that the
28757:12	Kurds will use the potential combined chaos of Iraq's transition the Arab
28767:17	Spring and a possible strike on iran to attempt again to establish an
28777:22	independent Kurdish country the Kurds are one of the many wild card still on
28787:27	the table during these turbulent times in the Middle East
28797:31	despite or in spite of the chaos the gospel continues to roll fourth is
28807:36	foreseen by Daniel the descendants of the ancient median kingdom and the
28817:41	Kingdom of the restored gospel are finding and embracing each other one of
28827:46	these his sister Kajol Romani a prominent curd and a convert to the
28837:50	church with the assistance of brother Clayton Christensen she's a professor of
28847:56	anthropology has taught at Harvard Boston College among others and
28858:00	continues to build academic and humanitarian bridges between the church
28868:04	and the Kurds there are also some families of the church living in the
28878:10	Kurdish autonomous region of iraq the truck that writing is truly on the wall
28888:16	despite the political challenges of the day the gospel one day reach these
28898:20	ancient people and the kingdom of god and the ancient king and will grow
28908:24	together and among them again that's today's update comments or questions get
28918:32	the applications and comment on it relationships at that school mentioned
28928:37	she was instrumental in helping her accept the gospel she was a she had
28938:44	converted to Christianity from Islam at the time she was teaching at Harvard and
28948:50	he met her and he began to explain some
28958:53	questions about life and she became interested in the gospel is here today
28968:59	no he's not
28979:02	she's a member of the church she is a member of the church dedicated and
28989:07	committed to the gospel and to where people interesting question been a very
28999:15	good very in time
29009:16	thank you and yep all out enter in the particular in Iraq but in the other
29019:23	areas there is there are there huge pockets of a non Kurdish population I
29029:30	mean do they in the areas where you show them are they pretty dominant or they
29039:35	have a lot of it people interspersed with them that are not Kurds there are
29049:42	places where they're very dominant the some of the places where you see
29059:45	violence in northern Iraq kook for instances where there is a fight for
29069:51	political domination between Sunnis and the courage or that's that's usually the
29079:56	conflict there are places where there's absolute dominance and where they really
290810:00	control silly money and places like that
290910:03	thank you muslim they are they have some Muslims and they have some Christians
291010:09	there's a in her build the capital of Kurdistan in northern Iraq there there's
291110:15	a there's a place where there's over 60,000 Christians and and many ancient
291210:20	Christians those are Christians who are coptic christian are not Coptic but
291310:25	they're syriac and still use Aramaic in their masses in some parts of bridge
291410:35	you're shaking your head and I here damn it about the director of the religion
291510:42	yes anything well we we have I was thinking earlier that may be why should
291610:47	my interesting enough we've had a family living in Kurdistan in the cursory
291710:53	public from huntsville utah a family with how many children . legs and
291810:58	children children and they lived there for about three years in perfect peace
291911:03	they're known to be latter-day saints
292011:05	no problems it's it's just a very stable part of Iraq safe part of Iraq we've
292111:11	considered have been asked by this sister kajal to to do more there and the
292211:18	only hesitancy we've had is that anything we do in Kurdistan will be
292311:24	viewed very negatively by the Turks and we're moving into turkey so it's kinda
292411:31	puts us in a little bit of a dilemma one place we might have as Paul is speaking
292511:35	i thought one place we might look at is a diaspora and trying to locate curves
292611:41	in the united states and europe began to teach them i think it's a fertile ground
292711:46	that timetable to look at any comments and questions reading last name is thank
292811:55	you thank you
292911:56	yeah
2930
2931========================================================
2932Mormon Leaks
2933Title:	In Which the Apostles Crack Jokes About Gambling in Las Vegas and 9 11
2934LDS title:	401(k)
2935Recorded:	10/29/2008
2936Length:	11:55
2937
2938Transcript
2939English (Automatic Captions)
2940
29410:01	global uncertainties become personal in the 401k the Internal Revenue Code 401k
29420:10	provision from 1978 allows deferral of taxes on income save for retirement
29430:17	there are of course various retirement vehicles 403b 457 is Kiyo's IRS and so
29440:24	on but 401k is the familiar proxy name for defined contribution retirement
29450:30	plans 65 million americans own 401 case worth four point five trillion dollars
29460:37	that year and 2007 today worth about three trillion says the wife to the
29470:44	husband
29480:44	I told you not to check the 401k some called downsize for one case 201 bees in
29490:55	part to chef retirement responsibility to individuals retirement plans
29501:00	definitely moved from defined benefits in the nineteen thirties through
29511:04	nineteen seventies to define contributions in the nineteen nineties
29521:09	in the nineteen nineties defined-contribution 401k plans but
29531:15	Americans into the market often through mutual funds
29541:19	thus in 1980 less than six percent of american households own mutual funds by
29551:25	2007 44-percent did
29561:28	no wonder so many Phil eggs as markets decline
29571:33	well up yesterday ten percent and holding it seems steady at least is when
29581:39	i saw it a few minutes ago the Dow Industrials as you know last five . four
29591:43	percent last week
29601:45	twenty-three percent last month and forty-one percent over the last year the
29611:51	Congressional Budget Office testified fifteen to twenty percent losses across
29621:56	retirement plans could quote lead people to reduce or delay purchases of goods
29632:01	and services or delay the retirement imagine a perfect storm when Social
29642:08	Security and state and local government retirement provisions lose value
29652:13	at the same time as 401 k retirement plans Social Security statements
29662:20	here's an example that came to be recently in the mail now carry this
29672:23	disclaimer page one right column quote social security is a compact between
29682:29	generations in 2017 it's nine years from now we will begin paying more and
29692:35	benefits then we collect $MONEY in taxes without changes by 2041 the social
29702:41	security trust fund will be exhausted state and local government retirement
29712:46	plan assets declined by more than 300 billion dollars between second quarter
29722:53	2007 at second quarter 2008 well the 20 largest public pension plans have funded
29733:01	ratios of about ninety percent on average some smaller plans have funded
29743:07	ratios below sixty percent our credit default swaps a form of derivative the
29753:15	next shoe to drop the red bar on the left shows 54.6 trillion dollars in
29763:21	credit default swaps outstanding is larger than world gross domestic product
29773:27	the gray bar in the middle credit default swaps are also larger than the
29783:33	combined total value of all stocks in the New York Stock Exchange us gross
29793:38	domestic product and US national debt shown the black bar on the right
29803:44	in fact credit default swap market nearly doubled each year from 2001
29813:51	through 2007 some politely call credit default swaps quote and unregulated on
29823:58	capitalize insurance market others more bluntly call them gaining contracts a
29834:04	form of leverage financial gambling in 2002 and the berkshire hathaway annual
29844:10	report or in profit Paul derivatives time bombs quote financial weapons of
29854:16	mass destruction carrying dangers that well now ladened are potentially lethal
29864:21	those all
29874:25	under have less time to recover from market declines in the church 774
29884:32	thousand members are 65 years or older about 8% 317,000 members 65 and older
29894:41	constitute about six percent of the International Church which is younger on
29904:46	average than the church in north america in the united states and canada 457
29914:53	thousand members are 65 or older about ten percent what happens when a temple
29925:01	married senior couple husband age 63 to 65 years old planning to serve a mission
29935:07	sees the retirement drop according to the research information division if
29945:13	anticipated senior missionary services delayed intervening financial health or
29955:18	other family factors can make it difficult for some senior couples ever
29965:23	to serve a mission expenses are difficult of course for senior couples
29975:28	to calculate these expenses vary by location and country and unpredictably
29985:33	increase with a weak US dollar many senior couples may feel the need to help
29995:39	children and grandchildren as part of a general monitoring of financial and
30005:44	spiritual trends would it be useful the tracks in your couples who asked to
30015:48	postpone serving who asked for early release is due to rising financial
30025:53	challenges or who request assignment changes to less expensive locations
30035:58	within their own mission boundaries in conclusion the heritage of the saints is
30046:05	to grow together by spiritual refinement through trial weather over the fence or
30056:11	across the world each generation can be taught to prepare and may be useful to
30066:17	monitor financial and spiritual impact on specific groups of members children
30076:22	young women and young men young adults adults are seniors today's update
30086:30	comments or questions thank you convinced me i'll delay my retirement
30096:36	tell what was that credit derivative you referred to that had such a huge figures
30106:49	associated with it
30116:50	good water is going to default swaps yeah what is that
30126:55	yeah and other alts this is the the cover story from fortune magazine called
30137:01	the 55 trillion-dollar credit these are essentially contracts let me give you
30147:07	the example that I found clearest american international group insured
30157:13	bonds for companies and enterprises around the world including lehman
30167:17	brothers when lehman brothers went bankrupt the bonds that Lehman Brothers
30177:23	issued billions and billions of those bonds called on aig insurance
30187:28	arg then having initially figured never to have to pay those suddenly have these
30197:34	contracts which he came do that effect of course its own credit ratings its
30207:38	ability to to raise the cash they needed to cover its positions and so on as of
30217:44	jun 30 of the the number was the number that we show their about 55 million
30227:48	since june thirtieth some of that has been unwound the leverage is starting to
30237:53	to be unleveraged as it were but it's still a huge number mean it's surprising
30247:58	that's larger than world gdp and that's part of what's lurking out there still
30258:02	that I think gives many people cause to pause and say that despite some happy
30268:08	news yesterday were probably not out of the woods
30278:11	would it be accurate to say that these credit default swaps are the equivalent
30288:15	of life insurance but the policy is written on the integrity of of corporate
30298:20	bonds or things like that
30308:22	yes I think that elder hales and others who have a specialized expertise be able
30318:27	to correctly but that's as i understand it what it is and because it's
30328:31	unregulated and uncap alized it works fine so long as no one calls them you
30338:36	know but otherwise it's really a form of gaming the other part party of this is
30348:41	part of the old maid scenario they were ensuring effective
30358:48	instruments at the time that they did it and not only that but other investment
30368:54	houses would ensure our other investment houses so that it was the delusion of
30379:01	collusion that I talked about they all knew that they were dealing with
30389:06	defective merchandise but they never thought they default on it because they
30399:11	thought they could work their way through it
30409:13	pigeons yeah i've never heard of these before that's why I had to ask her
30419:20	definition like life in each other let's partner up everybody in the war of you
30429:25	prove to everybody in the world is affected by aig every nation every
30439:32	corporation and many small companies and individuals and the sad part about it is
30449:39	that if you take the ratings that were put on the instruments that all of this
30459:46	gun if you take standards and floors
30469:48	I don't go into it but they were defective in their ratings as well and
30479:53	they have frozen you I've had people call me they can't even get standard &
30489:59	poor's to rate bonds they need for their business for their capital for the
304910:03	mergers because right now they're readjusting everything they're literally
305010:09	having to stop the merry go around to find out where all of this is and is
305110:14	firstly impossible but that's what they're trying to do is that designs
305210:18	that helpful
305310:19	every guy i think it's very helpful part part of what's interesting just small
305410:25	last footnote if you can say it's insured
305510:29	then you can take on a great deal of moral hazard you can you can switch your
305610:34	conscience and all kinds of things if you can persuade yourself that you've
305710:38	bought an insurance policy i was chairman over beneficial for never years
305810:43	and I look at life insurance and it amounted to this they looked at charge
305910:48	and they bet that I've got to live shows off i bet that I wasn't so i started
306010:54	paying money to prove it
306110:56	that about whether it's a lot quicker go to Las Vegas Jeffrey for a happy nobody
306211:07	else
306311:07	yeah let's go to let's go to something like 911 now that you course and the
306411:16	johnsons all my quarters Samuel Johnson to present a Colonel's this morning who
306511:22	said once that he tried to study philosophy once but happiness kept
306611:26	breaking through the doorway or for that matter
306711:32	well there's a very good thank you thank you
306811:37	we have to pause and remember that we're leaving 13 million people worldwide and
306911:45	this estimate is it is touching off so we got to settle down sober up and why's
307011:53	that
3071
3072========================================================
3073Mormon Leaks
3074Title:	Church Preparedness
3075LDS title:	Church Preparedness
3076Recorded:	5/15/2008
3077Length:	47:04
3078
3079Transcript
3080English (Automatic Captions)
3081
30820:02	express gratitude for the opportunity to be with you with this afternoon and talk
30830:08	a little bit about the church preparedness and another Guinness left
30840:13	with wills the managing director of welfare services department will join me
30850:17	in making that presentation and then its conclusion will invite our guests to
30860:22	come in to participate in to this little bit of a discussion with you if we may
30870:28	and people who are on the front lines the people who have really understand
30880:33	what to is taking place as we think about to church preparedness in a very
30890:37	broad fashion but to understand church preparedness we really have to have a
30900:45	little bit of an understanding that the pillar of church preparedness is really
30910:51	family preparedness and we are as an institution about only as strong as we
30921:00	we have families who are prepared for what ever eventualities may come their
30931:06	way family preparedness is the foundation it's really the foundation of
30941:11	of church preparedness and we depend on the families and the church to provide
30951:18	that pillar you'll recall that after a general welfare committee discussion
30961:25	some little over a year ago it was determined that we needed to simplify
30971:30	the message to families and that simplification included to gradually
30981:37	Weekly and In daily start that little preparation process and gradually over
30991:43	time acquire a three-month supply of the things you use everyday company with
31001:48	quantity of drinking water to start if you have not already a financial
31011:54	reserves even if it's only a few cents a day and to then and when you've
31021:59	accomplished those first three bullets then start thinking about the longer
31032:05	term the wii the beans the powdered milk the other kinds of things that can
31042:11	sustain life over a long
31052:13	real-time it's that pillar of family preparedness that everything else in
31062:18	terms of the institutional churches is predicated upon and so the purposes then
31072:26	of church preparedness comes to the point that as an institution we provide
31082:34	life-sustaining assistance for the ongoing poor and needy who have claimed
31092:39	on the church we will always have the poor amongst even though self-reliance
31102:44	is the key to what we do we will always have a portion of our population who
31112:51	will be in need we provide the life-sustaining assistance for church
31122:58	members who are displaced are unable to provide for themselves because of
31133:02	conditions beyond their control and were then talking about the Emergencies
31143:07	several of which we have had in the last several days and weeks and the others to
31153:15	the extent of the church has resources in cooperation with community agencies
31163:19	thanks to the generosity of our folks we have been in the position to extend to
31173:27	many others assistance as these kinds of events take place brother left Earth
31183:35	will now take us through what the the mechanics and the logistics as it
31193:40	relates to this purposes of church prepared this so get us if you come
31203:46	forward and then take us through that next two segments place thanks bishop
31213:56	excuse me one of the questions he's way ahead of me
31223:59	we want to be a little unusual today and invite you to ponder as we go through
31234:07	Dennis's preparation and presentation a couple of questions that we'd like to
31244:13	discuss after he's completed but here are some of the things that maybe you
31254:18	keep in mind
31264:20	as the presentation goes forward either additional steps the church should take
31274:25	to help families prepare and so as you see what we're now doing are there other
31284:30	things that might come to your attention
31294:32	in addition to family preparedness what more should the church do to prepare for
31304:36	emergencies and three what changes should be made to the president's
31314:42	strategy and for watching the church do to prepare outside of the US and canada
31324:48	will come back to each of those questions but if you just keep those
31334:52	kinds of things in mind it would help as we get further along and discussion mode
31344:57	fixes thank you
31354:59	I knew I speak on the out of our staff how grateful we are for bishop burton
31365:03	and the counselors just a pleasure working with them as we mentioned during
31375:09	the last conference welfare has been busy as a church we've participated in
31385:15	nearly a disaster and emergency one every other day and this year is no
31395:20	difference between we've had a lot of disasters from Florida Midwest and
31405:25	Myanmar brewing around and generally when we look at our approach to
31415:32	disasters there are three planning levels one would be local short-term
31425:40	emergencies and most emergencies we do with our local short-term emergencies
31435:45	secondly wide-scale long-term emergencies and thirdly pandemics like
31445:52	to take just a few minutes and go through each of these three different
31455:55	planning levels and how the church response to them the first of all the
31465:59	local short-term emergency such as pleasant fires earthquakes Strauss and
31476:04	east and recessions in response to these we have leadership and volunteers is
31486:08	perhaps our greatest strength and assisting and helping here we have a
31496:13	million members up in Washington during the floods december two thousand seven
31506:18	ready willing to help
31516:22	second of all we have storehouse supplies that are available for those in
31526:26	need
31536:26	I went down this row first square this morning and a sister missionary
31546:30	from Honduras and she told me when she was first assigned to work their welfare
31556:36	square she walked in and saw all the food cans the labels she started to cry
31566:42	she said because during hurricane mitch her family had nothing and they received
31576:47	the supplies out of the storehouse that in Honduras and now there's a storehouse
31586:51	in Honduras where they can provide supplies quickly respond to emergencies
31596:57	right away this particular store houses in uruguay in addition to the food we
31607:02	also have tarps sleeping wear clothing chain saws in high-risk areas
31617:10	the second is of media analysis very critical resource we have the church to
31627:15	respond in this case we have the tents set up the shoulders and proved last
31637:19	year during the earthquake the next slide shows the cultural center being
31647:25	used as a shelter for the fires in California last fall and thirdly this
31657:32	warehouse has been used the cultural hall has been used as a warehouse in NS
31667:37	Lydell after Hurricane Katrina likewise in the employment centers and LDS family
31677:46	services are a great resource to help afterwards and this is the Slidell story
31687:52	i'll still providing help for those who are trying to get on their feet after
31697:56	the flood
31707:57	likewise we have pre-established agreements with other agencies the Red
31718:02	Cross and one reason why the church was able to give them up
31728:06	myanmar so quickly just recently because of pre-established agreements and
31738:13	relationships with care and united parcel service will ship in supplies for
31748:18	us it's been very helpful have these arrangements before the crisis occurs
31758:23	and lastly thinking this we have sake presences and bishops who are prepared
31768:29	planning the local level how best to respond to their people the next level
31778:35	of planning is would be wide-scale long-term emergencies such as economic
31788:40	depression
31798:41	laps droughts civil disturbances and here we have as our major response our
31808:49	strategic reserves and central to this would be our wheat a point seven million
31818:55	bushels stored around the United States and Canada based upon our criteria
31829:00	provided for about thirty percent of the members beans you haven't personally 7
31839:05	million pounds of beans toward million birdie and restore enough beans to care
31849:10	for the children and the elderly and after all other people
31859:14	same with rice and next we have the powdered milk again for the needy and we
31869:19	have diesel fuel to move if you're able to the product from the farms and from
31879:24	the other storage locations here we have a slide that shows where the 30
31889:29	facilities are in the United States storing 8.7 million bushels of grain
31899:34	next in terms of response for long-term emergencies we have the food processing
31909:42	the canneries milk plant the greenery successor the process the flower you
31919:49	have farm production and here we have two different kinds of farms yeah well
31929:54	for farms about 53 farms and welfare most the product all comes into the
319310:00	system about 60,000 acres of farmland the it is used to produce the we dry
319410:09	beans etc we produce enough wheat to rotate the storage once every three
319510:14	years
319610:15	the second group is run by what we used to call farm management company a
319710:21	fantasy is now called AG reserves and they have by far much more land the
319810:27	productive capacity is really remarkable in this arm of the church we have about
319910:33	a hundred 45,000 acres there now producing these products and in addition
320010:41	that the lease out about 244,000 a KERS that could be converted into productive
320110:47	farmland next on distribution
320210:52	there's six Bishop central storehouses United States this is Atlanta washington
320310:57	DC Indianapolis cold in California Oregon and salt lake distribution also
320411:04	we have 36 trucks 94 traders and the storage of diesel fuel and the visa
320511:11	strategic locations pandemics is a third-level planning is different than
320611:20	the other but I met with red cross and they said of all the planning options
320711:25	pandemics is the most difficult to plan for simply because of the need to
320811:31	quarantine people last couple years we've had a number of initiatives taken
320911:36	elder Nelson when participated back in Washington DC a few months ago and
321011:42	presented with the church is doing to help if there were a pandemic and the
321111:48	response as he mentioned we've recently published four members the two brochures
321211:55	a bishop burton mentioned they should ask food available at home
321312:00	likewise information then publish to BYU and other universities to help the
321412:07	students respond if there were a demi we have publications on the website as well
321512:14	that members can look at all so we've pre-positioned supplies masks for
321612:22	example you have 250,000 mask available in these several locations that could be
321712:27	distributed if needed
321812:29	plus other food and supplies likewise we have communication networks available
321912:36	through the storehouses and steaks Stewart and regions the church we worked
322012:43	closely with other agencies both nationally and locally coordinated plan
322112:49	and review what could be done and thirdly there's been an initiative for
322212:56	some time now looking at what we do at headquarters in terms of who would come
322313:01	and help
322413:02	manage the operations if there were a pandemic therefore guidelines that we
322513:13	use to govern how we store and produce food the first is to store your supply a
322613:20	basic foods to meet current storehouse needs so in all of our storehouses we
322713:24	have about a year's supply of the normal foods for the poor and the needy
322813:29	next we maintain strategic reserves at the 2006 target levels has to lead in
322913:37	the beans we showed earlier so we made a decision several years ago not to
323013:42	continue expanding that but to keep it a certain level and put more focus on
323113:46	families have been prepared
323213:50	thirdly restore your supply relief items based on past usage so the past many
323313:58	years we have a pretty good feel of how many chainsaws real barrels blankets we
323414:02	need for the hurricane season and other disasters and we keep about a year
323514:08	supply on hand for that
323614:11	and lastly we produce enough food to replace the annual storehouse needs and
323714:16	rotate one third of this strategic reserves so that's a summary of strategy
323814:25	and approach to the church is now taking so perhaps Bishop we could go back to
323914:29	the questions to see if you have any further discussions your colleagues to
324014:35	come forward and introduce them you would . good thanks Gary flake on his
324114:40	way up
324214:41	he's been man has been busy with Myanmar and China and the other issues were
324314:46	facing first given nearly walked around a different way by Kevin yield is over
324414:55	he's the director of storehouses the the canneries and the grain storage
324515:00	production next name is Brad bass and bread basket the director of the
324615:07	humanitarian development major initiatives neonatal resuscitation
324715:12	vision immunizations water etc and Gary flake as we advertised as we began the
324815:26	meeting we'd like to go to some of these discussions and make it a participatory
324915:30	kind of a other day and you know as latter-day saints was we'd always seem
325015:37	to need a little economic incentive to be participants and things were a little
325115:41	reluctant debutante sometimes and so I had a little meeting with president
325215:47	packer before the meeting started and he consented it we can all be considered a
325315:51	full-time players at five percent if we participated in the discussion so you
325415:56	get all the blessings but only half the price
325515:59	we'd invite you to participate in the discussion we ask you to ponder it is on
325616:05	the board but they're Sheffield is going to write down some of your comments and
325716:09	ideas elder scott please
325816:12	I wonder if we couldn't be more effective in helping families know how
325916:16	to reach out to their extended family before they turn in the church that's an
326016:21	excellent excellent idea and you know that's always been one of the basic
326116:27	ongoing pillars of our processor is it difficult to do
326216:33	it's really difficult to do because many of our bishops don't have the time to
326316:37	help them council that way and many of the recipients are reluctant to involve
326416:42	their families but it's a superb concept and one that needs to be reinforced I
326516:48	think so long i have written down can we help families be more effective reaching
326616:53	out to their extended families and assuming they extended family kind of
326716:57	responsibility other ballot as your powder we know
326817:03	what percentage of our families are really prepared
326917:08	Dennis once you responded to their you can have some recent surveys that there
327017:13	are fairly complete the last year before we initiate this new simplified approach
327117:18	about ten percent and a 15-percent were prepared with food internationally it's
327217:25	three percent or less so we'll take another survey soon to find out if we
327317:31	made a difference increased the percentage do that in the quick query
327417:36	elder ballard is that 33 year much supply that the years supply are the
327517:43	longer term i'm talking your month or three months or three months it's more
327617:49	like eighteen to twenty percent have sufficient for three months it is dead
327717:55	of a quick query because of the way we're going to me the way the world is
327818:01	going with will it be advisable at some point to to recommend that will come we
327918:07	have a survey through the bishops that is more than just a quick query so we
328018:12	really know what's going on and they and and the families that I would I would I
328118:20	would think we'd want to know whether or not we're really gaining on this thing
328218:25	the way the world's i think that's it would be a wise idea for us to do to get
328318:32	together a detailed study on that Hungary where we started Dennis please i
328418:37	just mentioned it campus keeping track of how much we going outside of the of
328518:43	storage units this quadruple last couple months
328618:47	look at a graph chart last year in january-february large this is good
328718:54	nice pressure related to that when you talk about rotating the three years does
328819:00	that go into the system and used or is it just lost that is sold on the open
328919:05	market the rotating 410 disciples it there's not that much need internally
329019:13	other folks please question on on medical supplies both for home storage
329119:23	and in our storehouses more and more as the population ages and for other
329219:31	reasons that we have people who are dependent for life upon a flow of
329319:36	medical supplies if that were upset
329419:39	how have we counseled our members and how are we positioned in our storehouse
329519:43	to to help maintain life by other means and food script question that anybody
329619:52	like volunteering answer or observation all often operation the storehouses
329720:00	present time carry a pretty basic menu product the internationally
329820:08	it's about 25 tapas in the United States it's about a hundred twenty items on a
329920:15	stock list medical I believe bring some challenges with having and distributing
330020:23	this particular restriction medicine and we we probably take a look
330120:28	kind of family work around on that but in the event of a pandemic or some kind
330220:37	of a great emergency
330320:40	I can foresee a time when people are less fussy the law is less fussy about
330420:45	prescription and also we don't want to be in a position of being able to
330520:50	maintain a life that's already been surrendered because we couldn't to
330620:53	provide a no that's essential medical something we really need to think
330720:58	through because of the laws bday two prescriptions and those kinds of things
330821:02	and possession of narcotics and so on that are the basis of many that that
330921:07	really needs to have some serious thought Gary view going to Bishop
331021:11	Katrina was radio wake up column is to a lot of people and the Red Cross and
331121:17	others are really starting to put an emphasis perhaps there's an emphasis
331221:21	that we ought to consider the same because people are on dialysis or just
331321:29	that there's a whole group of people that suffer disaster that they didn't
331421:35	need to bring upon themselves besides the disaster that they were already in
331521:38	and I think that a lot of this education and perhaps we need to think about the
331621:44	possibility of reminding people that it only remaining from home but maybe
331721:49	institutionally where where we can we may need to have a monocle of those
331821:54	kinds of supplies or expertise to assist great question any other observation yes
331922:02	please just reading a study that Michigan did
332022:06	it's on gardening it said that the 40 years ago ninety percent of the
332122:11	population knew how to cart today ninety percent of the population do not know
332222:15	how to guard and so I wonder whether we need to teach our members how actually
332322:22	to grow their own food including in an urban setting using these kind of window
332422:27	boxes because if in fact my hunch is that we fewer of our members actually
332522:33	know how to grow their own food and become self-sufficient in terms of
332622:37	growing their own food and then
332722:39	you might imagine environment that was something which we assume when I was
332822:42	growing up but apparently we can assume it anymore
332922:44	I think you're right we can see what we are doing some limited things there and
333022:48	what you asked the question to Brett why don't you respond to what we're doing on
333122:52	the humanitarian sign that my question had to do with the international church
333222:58	so to speak
333322:59	I think there's quite a few countries that you have laws prohibiting hoarding
333423:06	or storage of food and I don't know how far those laws go or which countries are
333523:10	affected but how can we help those members prepare our is are they just
333623:16	relying on the grace of the Lord there but let's hold that one for just a
333723:21	second and respond as a family gardening issue we're currently in the process of
333823:26	bringing the benson institute from brigham young university into welfare
333923:29	services that's been done events institute has a lot of experience with
334023:33	that alongside that has been a an initiative that we've undertaken to help
334123:39	with family gardening we realize in the emerging church will call it there are
334223:44	many of our members live in urban areas so we do currently have projects
334323:48	underway that were piloting to work with priesthood leaders and members of the
334423:54	church in doing these family gardening project have good please just to follow
334524:00	on ever have we got up when we build a building to actually have a plot of land
334624:04	big enough that the ward members could actually grow right at the church itself
334724:10	some food we actually have experience with that Zimbabwe of all places is a
334824:15	place where there have been gardens run by members or sometime and save them
334924:22	zimbabwe really great blessing where they've been able to keep it together
335024:26	and do the work
335124:27	it's been a great blessing to them i know that that has been done in
335224:31	something so we thought of extending as a kind of programmatic kinda way just
335324:36	just for emergencies
335424:38	I don't know that we give it serious thought but something we should give
335524:41	serious thought to thank you for the question let's go back to the question
335624:45	relative to horny laws or international application we're going to have one
335724:50	question at the bottom your discussion relative to what what can we do
335824:53	internationally he is this different to that maybe any other observation yes
335924:59	please
336025:00	and in terms of helping families prepare their our present-day pioneers who have
336125:07	great lessons to teach and they don't live in the developed parts of the world
336225:11	where I've been in Africa they wouldn't have a problem if the electrical grid
336325:17	went down because it goes down every day they wouldn't have a problem if cell
336425:22	phone towers went down because they aren't up i think in the established
336525:28	areas of the church would have a real problem if we didn't have microwaves and
336625:31	cell phones and so there are lessons to learn from people who live that way all
336725:37	the time and it's not us helping them but they could help us and I don't think
336825:43	we facilitate that learning process from present-day pioneers to the people in
336925:48	the established areas you think we get it when i'm not sure we get it you know
337025:53	I think we're pretty sure we don't get it
337125:55	thank you the rules that are on the subject of water if we had serious
337226:01	disruptions water would soon be a major source of of disease and deprivation and
337326:10	and even death
337426:12	there will be water around but it'll be polluted are we
337526:18	situated in the council we've given people for home storage and for central
337626:23	to do water purification
337726:27	Rep John going enterprise
337826:30	certainly there are many options that are available and I believe her quite
337926:35	well known in the in this North America area and around the world people are
338026:41	more and more understanding through the efforts of the world health organization
338126:44	and and ourselves boiling water and those types of things in areas were
338226:50	boiling water is the key fuel becomes the issue if filtration ceramic filters
338326:58	or carbon filters and those things its longevity and replacement that becomes
338427:02	the issue they have a value and then there are there's a new type of water
338527:08	purification that is a powder packet that you mix and it has a shelf life
338627:13	issue and also fairly technical instructions that go with it and you add
338727:19	to that bleach and iodine those are all of the options as we've communicated in
338827:26	our water storage pamphlets that Kevin knows about we talk about the basics of
338927:31	water purification but it's not global it doesn't meet cultural needs we talk
339027:40	about boiling water and in Sudan you don't boil water so there is a
339127:44	sensitivity that we could in our materials in our approach we could be
339227:49	more sensitive to tested any carry anything you want i wanna i would say it
339327:54	in a country like ours much of what we're talking about probably goes back
339427:58	to the very basic message to having the water on hand that is they that is safe
339528:05	and then there is a much larger challenges the it was
339628:09	for long-term basis but the council to lay out the store and sent some things
339728:16	aside seems to be one of the things that needs to be continually talked at least
339828:21	moving in that direction with unity i think at the at the personal level I
339928:28	warrant that very very few families would have a three-month supply water
340028:33	issue and if they don't we ought to have specific options for them to have to
340128:40	approximate three-month supply water bye-bye purification supplies could
340228:45	potentially had your hand ever
340328:48	ok he is that even feasible a three-month supply water to find our
340428:52	education at two weeks on two weeks and for their observations on the first
340529:00	discussion question let's go to the second one an interesting time in
340629:03	addition to family preparedness what more should the church do to prepare for
340729:07	emergencies
340829:08	we've named some of those that thank you as we've got through the first question
340929:12	but other just focus on emergencies now these are the acts of god mother nature
341029:21	generally speaking we're talking about here rather than the family emergencies
341129:25	of dislocation or or financial reversals are those kinds of things
341229:30	anything come to mind that would be helpful for us as we try to think
341329:34	through family preparedness and what more should the church do to prepare for
341429:38	emergencies and in addition to family preparedness excuse me you can think of
341529:46	let's tell you then just briefly what's taking place in the two that situations
341629:50	that are most current Gary would you first tell them what we're doing in my
341729:57	mar and then what the proposal is for China that us
341830:02	little bit this through having the organizational connections and knowing
341930:07	where some of these organizations are successful we knew that care had been me
342030:12	tomorrow for a long time and had a good relationship there are couples we have
342130:18	two couples of humanitarian assignments new of that Association so we made
342230:24	contact with them we provided two hundred thousand dollars that they have
342330:29	been able to make purchases in country and distribute to 15,000 pounds since it
342430:35	occurred
342530:36	regardless of the politics and the part of the borders and all of that we've
342630:40	been able to provide resources and have a portion then respond based upon that
342730:46	then
342830:46	united parcel service came to us and said we know of your medical supplies
342930:52	and working with care about amount of Atlanta can we pick up empty 11 full of
343030:59	medical supplies and deliver them to care in bangkok who would go ahead and
343131:05	get them in and smaller shipments into me anymore without raising the pan pair
343231:10	of all of the border this or thing because of their relationship to work in
343331:15	that case working through the organization working very closely with
343431:19	your presidency of course and having the couple's on the ground to try to provide
343531:24	some sort of a true squad of Iraq there's another organization or two that
343631:29	were looking at and considering that's where Mr the appropriations committee
343731:36	set aside a half-a-million dollars for those endeavors with the provider that
343831:40	we could review that when that was gone now in terms of China please again
343931:45	immediately with China visited with the air
344031:48	presidency and the military officer vta what they would like to do and suggested
344131:56	a few options to them then they came back and have said what we would like to
344232:01	do is to involve what members we can we like this red lines in Hong Kong or
344332:07	elsewhere in making hygiene kids following this an army the science and
344432:14	art department thirty thousand hygiene kits and ship them out just realize it
344532:18	was a great blessing to them so the proposal is that they would like to make
344632:23	some place between 30 to 50,000 hygiene kits as soon as they can and get the
344732:28	been working either directly with the Ministry of Civil Affairs in China to
344832:36	the connections in our channel other hand or that they would earth through
344932:41	the all-china Women's charity group you know one of the groups that they've been
345032:45	working and then the other things that would do would be to look for the
345132:50	ditches the tents the blankets other things we purchased in China and keep it
345232:56	as a response within China of the church is boring and China so that's the way
345333:01	that we're moving on that at this point soon very wise to me on tuesday we
345433:07	presented the appropriations request to the new budget appropriations for a
345533:11	million dollars to support that endeavor in in China but again I i think my
345633:18	credit is to them Association relationships that they have built in
345733:22	China that when one of these comes along that it allows us to fit into the to the
345833:27	extreme of where they're going
345933:30	here's a really long this point don't you have a church planning emergency
346033:36	preparedness by local stakes areas and such for emergencies like flooding we do
346133:42	you know it isn't that ongoing that's on billing and you'll recall of Dennis's
346233:46	presentations the bottom item was an expression of appreciation for those
346333:51	words and state plans
346433:52	tests are out there this is economics one of the comment on the united states
346533:58	with some of the fires and other things we're doing in the united states we've
346634:03	been a conscious effort the last couple of years that absolutely is a church
346734:08	respond directly and use priesthood leaders of course and meet mr we've got
346834:14	to respond have a third-party organization to work with
346934:17	we don't have to have them here we know that we can respond directly in the
347034:21	volunteers and the other things involved but one of the interesting things to me
347134:26	as the Church considers emergency preparation is that we have members the
347234:31	church literally in every little town in America
347334:34	I'm just amazed when a tornado hits Northcutt North Dakota or flooding and
347434:40	joliet illinois and we start to look into it there's always four five or six
347534:45	hours the church then they've got some connections and I used to take these
347634:49	little towns across America we didn't have in church members we're finding
347734:53	just a lot of the tornadoes last week in joplin missouri working with President
347835:00	Jones and through our elder anderson of course there are 18 church member
347935:05	families had significantly damaged tones because of the tornado it's just the
348035:10	increase in church members and and it is all emergency preparedness is a church
348135:16	is even greater I feel as we have large numbers of members thank you for those
348235:23	particular any other items before we go to the next discussion . what changes
348335:28	should be made in our present strategy obviously there's some strategic
348435:32	suggestions and some of the ideas that have been presented but strategically
348535:37	you remember what our storehouses have the beans the week and so on are there
348635:43	any suggestions for what we can do differently given the restraints that we
348735:49	have in any kind of a long-term dislocation what is that what is the
348835:55	current understanding of
348935:57	a bishop for example as it relates to an emergency response in other words
349036:03	something's happening that we weave training the bishopric sufficiently that
349136:10	they know who to go to and particle in response to i think in the united states
349236:17	and canada Coordinating Council and the discussion has gone on there and the
349336:21	grouping together of steaks to respond to one another's issues is pretty well
349436:26	established and if they know that they have not in their steak organization but
349536:32	they have the multi stake organizations and then are ready to jump in
349636:36	maybe the members of the seven presidents have a better perspective
349736:40	than we do on that issue any observations present in your college
349836:44	nothing which is that is accurate internationally it's a different picture
349936:49	and that though we've got a number of places where the Helping Hands idea is
350036:57	percolating I'm not sure it's to the level that we have at other places
350137:05	Bishop please out in the poorest parts of the church throughout Salvador
350237:11	bolivia and especially among the rural poor well really all poor for them an
350337:18	emergency is an increase in the price of food that's true on thinking afford it
350437:22	doesn't have to be a calamity in and I know you're talking about emergency
350537:27	preparedness but what are we doing in enhance our strategy deal with that kind
350637:33	of a problem for people simply suddenly dropped from being poor to being
350737:37	destitute and even having their lives in danger how can we make sure that
350837:41	everybody its theoretically it said its education in our bishops Archbishop's
350937:47	have that responsibility and the generosity of the saints as relates to
351037:51	keeping the sacredness in the of the fast last year a little over nearly
351138:00	three hundred million dollars were used by our bishops
351238:04	in terms of cash lot of let alone the commodities to react to some of those
351338:09	issues for members of the church we think it's set the unit level and it's
351438:15	the the bishop who has the checkbook without a balanced so to speak that can
351538:21	reach out and help in those kinds of situations as an institution that's our
351638:26	preparedness as it relates to our members in those areas
351738:29	it's a perfect situation
351838:33	do we have perfect administration we have a long way to go to get that but
351938:37	that's the basic premise which we operate Dennis having you like that it
352038:46	is a serious problem with emphasis don't know and 19 the last time he came into
352138:53	the whole general committee we talked about finding hell through employment
352238:58	and have a three-pronged approach with placing and jobs jobs available helping
352339:05	them develop the skill and small business to microcredit Michael loans
352439:11	available the community and the other long-term we have approached the
352539:15	short-term with you with the rising price of food serious issue many
352639:19	families did you just look at a member who lives an award or we built a
352739:25	hundred-thousand-dollar meeting house which is more than the entire Ward will
352839:30	make in 10 years and they wonder why we can find a way to feed them
352939:35	I mean that's it
353039:37	well that's a tragedy if that occurs because the means are there if they're
353139:42	get the local trees the leaders search are doing what they're asking dude
353239:47	please Kevin it in the international star houses have been established in
353339:54	Latin America in the larger cities where the peat work are in a reasonable
353439:59	distance of that storehouse the vision can help them immediately with food now
353540:06	obviously there are people with more distance becomes and we're not as
353640:11	pervasive as with storehouses internationals we could be and I'm one
353740:16	of the questions will have you will talk about that issue
353840:19	thank you Scott another one reality into I've seen overseas is that a few people
353940:25	come to the bishop and ask but the real need don't and they don't go out to
354040:30	evaluate those who are need to it's a very serious problem with the scripture
354140:36	says the bishops should seek out the poor and imagines the magic words and
354240:40	sieges happen that comes with training happen now I got actually the things in
354340:46	place to do it but it's not being bad things to change but it is only prayer z
354440:51	is the ward council operating properly on this is were cancelling his corns
354540:56	release society of course were members of that cancelled because of the handle
354641:00	here here for what I wonder if we need to we used to do a fair bit when I was
354741:05	young we don't do much anymore do we need to teach our members basic
354841:10	competencies in reciting in our corner meetings I think about my father in
354941:16	terms of being a Robinson Caruso would have a far greater chance of survival
355041:20	and I would and I would bet that I have a better chance of survival and my
355141:25	grandchildren will that we're losing basic competency tikki being a robinson
355241:29	crusoe in an urban environment including it developed developed society but even
355341:36	if you got a nice i've noticed him even in Brazil were people when they first
355441:40	come into the city they know how to cope when it gets the generation thereafter
355541:44	they don't know they don't know how to cope anymore
355641:46	I mean in an honest way
355741:48	and I wondering whether we need to teach competencies which we haven't done in a
355841:53	long time and most of our so good actually question good question we have
355941:57	to make certain we've got that on the horizon here I think you're exactly
356042:04	right any other items before we get the last of what should we do to prepare
356142:11	outside of the US and canada look like enter at our first when's the meeting
356242:17	while we have all of this welfare storage and we have this magnificent
356342:22	for-profit that in the places that things are most likely to be terrible
356442:28	Africa Philippines that we have neither storage nor do we have farms and ranches
356542:32	or anything else is there a plan or should there be a plan for those that
356642:37	are we know where parentally going to be the most difficult places in the world
356742:42	and we have a back at plant even utilizing everything's there
356842:47	it's an excellent question and at this point in time we have x strategy focused
356942:52	on those few places in the world where the soils are the best where we can be
357042:59	more profitable and probably were little my optic unit comes to that good
357143:03	observation we have not considered the acquisition as a part of the providing
357243:11	of resources every place and that probably is a great suggestion good rest
357343:19	hoarding if you yeah thank you for money
357443:22	governor breath to the issues surrounding in some places it's a it's
357543:29	not appropriate legally for members to acquire food supply in your basement or
357643:35	have an unusual amount of food on hand at my response to that would be in
357743:42	in many of those places this country not me one we're in now the idea might be
357843:48	instead of having a few pounds of food on hand that takes us for a couple of
357943:54	days that maybe there's we work to have enough pounds of food on and takis for a
358044:01	couple of weeks now one of the bastards would be considered call according in a
358144:05	given country I don't know that it may be that basic bread is as you looked
358244:11	around the humanitarian endeavors
358344:13	tell us about your experience there in most of the areas where we're doing
358444:17	humanitarian work there may be those kinds of laws but they're not enforced
358544:20	number one is very little enforcement number two I have seen where they
358644:25	recommend that have cash or something to barter so you can acquire and i actually
358744:32	was in high priest group in kenya where they were discussing that very fact that
358844:37	they weren't able to store at that time the three-month thing had been released
358944:42	it and they were talking about how can we be liquid enough to be able to get
359044:46	what we need from each other
359144:48	good resort to a barter system perhaps I raised a few pigs and you do something
359244:55	else and we exchanged any other suggestions brother know we've had you
359345:00	for nearly the hour but are there some some things that any feelings any
359445:05	perceptions from you or anybody else in the audience for that matter about to
359545:11	where we're going what we're doing plays elder i think one thing we might do to a
359645:16	greater extent than we now do is is regionalize this question and instead of
359745:21	trying to do it at headquarters say to people in goner say to people in the
359845:26	Philippines what do you think is the solution to this problem we can't solve
359945:30	this you know your local conditions we might regionalize to a greater planning
360045:36	and counsel to people to a greater extent than we've done i think that's a
360145:41	good suggestion you know the basic underlying pillars of policy and
360245:47	so on are the same around the world but how you do it
360345:52	Carrie vast addresses in the end the Philippines as the ballard and I were
360445:56	just talking about that the coping skills are way up here they've got a lot
360546:04	of problems but they are survivors and they know how to cope and so we ought to
360646:09	be saying to them what what can we do to help you in these emergencies and
360746:13	they're coping skills are applied to that situation and and they could give
360846:17	better council out of manila for the needs of half a million members of the
360946:23	philippines and we could ever possibly absolutely great observation
361046:27	yes please I is 1 comment i think these simplified pamphlets that you just
361146:34	quickly what I should see them use the law when I go out plus visit we hope
361246:41	that's the case hopefully with a simple fighter approach came out of a general
361346:45	welfare committee discussion that we had not too long ago and I think it's paid
361446:49	dividends
361546:50	thank you for your participation your ideas and thank you for the time and
361646:56	thanks to my esteemed colleagues for Rick carrying the ball today we are
361747:00	grateful for the opportunity of sharing with you
361847:03	thank you
3619
3620========================================================
3621Mormon Leaks
3622Title:	In Which They Discuss How Relations With Islam Can Be Improved
3623LDS title:	The Church and Islam
3624Recorded:	2/15/2012
3625Length:	43:40
3626
3627Transcript
3628English (Automatic Captions)
3629
36300:00	several years ago elder always visited Africa in the country of nigeria he
36310:08	observed how muslims were being slowly integrated into the church and stated to
36320:14	the 12 on return I believe the Lord is sending us to school in nigeria helping
36330:21	us learn what we need to learn to prepare to take the Gospels to the
36340:26	Muslim nations subsequently president packer organized and Islamic working
36350:32	group consisting of elder oaks our fallen our Piper and amacarin in August
36360:41	elder cardin on his return from his service in Africa was added to the group
36370:47	the charge to the group was to prepare to take the gospel to the Islamic world
36380:54	the presentation today we'll review or provide some background on islam and
36391:01	then a report on the work of the group has undertaken to date we're grateful
36401:11	that Islamic working group is grateful for this opportunity to present to you
36411:15	today on the topic the church in Islam today will elder cardin will begin by
36421:21	giving us some scriptural and prophetic declaration is associated with Islam
36431:26	other Kieran will then provide information about the development of
36441:30	Islam and then we'll discuss our efforts it outreach and building relationships
36451:35	and some of the current efforts and proselytizing those who are of the
36461:40	Muslim faith
36471:41	finally we'll discuss some of our findings and look forward to what we
36481:47	might do in the future and we welcome your thoughts and insights at that point
36491:52	so we'll start with elder garden take your fiber response to his meetings with
36502:00	the Lord for posterity and the blessings of the priesthood Lord showed Abraham
36512:05	the heavens and louder
36522:08	the Lord short Abraham the heavens and said look now toward heaven and count
36532:16	the stars so shall thy seed be and in thy seed after thee shall all the
36542:21	families of the earth be blessed
36552:23	even with the blessings of the gospel Abraham's firstborn son was Hagar saris
36562:29	was to Hagar Sarah's handmade while pregnant Hagar fled from Sarah's wrath
36572:34	into the wilderness and was visited by an angel who told her to return the
36582:38	angel told her she would have a son and to name him Ishmael meaning God hears
36592:43	the Lord told her further that her seed would be multiplied exceedingly and it's
36602:48	still not be numbered for multi later the Lord told Abraham regarding national
36612:53	I have blessed him and we'll make him fruitful and multiply him exceedingly
36622:58	twelve Prince's shall he beget and I i will make him a great nation the Lord
36633:05	blessed Ishmael's posterity they prospered and spread throughout the
36643:09	Arabian Peninsula in 1974 president kimball taught the regional
36653:14	representatives of the twelve saying quote it seems to me that the Lord chose
36663:22	his words when he said every nation every land uttermost bounds of the earth
36673:27	every time every people every soul all the world many lands
36683:33	surely there is significance in these words close quote with these thoughts in
36693:39	mind we now look at the rise of Islamic nations healthcare muhammad was born in
36703:45	Mecca in 5 70 AD his father died before he was born his mother died when he was
36713:51	around six years old he was raised by various relatives including his uncle
36723:56	his upbringing included experience and shepherding and trading in 610 ad at the
36734:04	age of four see Muhammad while meditating in a cave near Mecca claims
36744:09	have been visited and taught by the angel Gabriel in subsequent years he
36754:13	received other visits and teachings these teachings were written and
36764:17	compiled into a book that we
36774:19	no as the Quran Allah Muhammad lived most of his life between the cities of
36784:24	Mecca and Medina when he fled from Mecca to Medina with his followers to escape
36794:30	persecution in 622 ad the event became known as the Israel or the beginning of
36804:36	Islam and became the first year of the Muslim calendar before his death in 632
36814:42	ad Muhammad had United most of the tribes in the Arabian Peninsula as you
36824:49	know the Islam has five pillars
36834:52	the first is Shahada their profession of faith being that there is no god but God
36844:58	and Muhammad is His Messenger the second salat refers to the five daily prayers
36855:03	the third the cut two arms giving forth all song fasting particularly during
36865:10	Ramadan but other times too and the fifth Hajj the pilgrimage to Mecca which
36875:15	they are expected to conduct at least once in a lifetime the Quran is about
36885:21	the same length as the new testament contains many events and professor a-and
36895:26	and profits familiar to Christians and Jews is not an historical narrative but
36905:32	a collection of what the Muslims believe to be God's teaching with no overall
36915:36	theme Islam expand expanded northward and westward along the Mediterranean
36925:44	southward and eastward through asia by a mixture of conquest and trade the spread
36935:50	of Islam began shortly after the death of Muhammad in the first after death
36945:54	muhammad in the first centuries conversion to Islam follow the rapid
36955:58	growth of the Muslim world created by the conquest of the Callas muslim
36966:04	dynasties were soon established in subsequent empires were among the
36976:08	largest in the world the people of of the Islamic world created numerous
36986:12	sophisticated centers of culture and science with far-reaching mercantile
36996:17	that networks contributing to what became known as the Golden Age of Islam
37006:22	the majority of Muslims about ninety percent are sunnis and they follow
37016:30	Muhammad's example the other 10
37026:32	sent are Shiites who follow Muhammad's cousin and brother in law in the family
37036:37	line around 780 there was a schism over succession and incorporation of non
37046:44	Quranic elements while we share a number of broad beliefs it may be helpful to
37056:51	identify where we differ for the Muslims God is one God the ever our everlasting
37066:57	refuge he has taken no wife he is but he has not forgotten not been forgotten and
37077:05	equal to him is none other as they say Mohammed is considered to be the seal of
37087:10	the prophets which is most often interpreted to mean the last of the
37097:15	prophets but could also be interpreted as the authentic or confirming seal is
37107:21	worth noting that a majority of committed Muslims cherish war family
37117:25	bonds and for the most part very hospitable to non-muslims living among
37127:29	them today there are a number of number of flashpoints with Islam around the
37137:34	world often this relates to some form of extremism extremism in turn is often
37147:41	associated with jihad and two most Muslims jihad refers to an inner
37157:46	striving for cleansing but it has been assumed by a minority to reflect a more
37167:51	outward holy war in West westernized cultures tensions are often most
37177:57	apparent where where the arrival of Islam in a nation or region is in its
37188:02	first or second-generation more than sixty percent of the world 2 billion
37198:10	Christians live between the tenth and 40 of parallels along with half the world's
37208:16	1.6 billion Muslims touch points in places like Sudan nigeria Indonesia
37218:22	Malaysia and the Philippines are where Christians and Islam often collide or
37228:28	can collide economic and demographic tensions have played their role in this
37238:32	to one of the assertions of groups like al-qaeda is that Islam is in danger at
37248:39	the hands of the West this map
37258:43	this next map illustrates countries where muslim population where where the
37268:49	Muslim proportion of the population is over fifty percent of the total globally
37278:55	the rate of growth in the number of Muslims is projected to increase at
37289:00	twice the rate of non-muslims and increased by approximately thirty-five
37299:04	percent over the next 20 years from 1.6 billion to 2.2 billion however in terms
37309:11	of the world's total population this would represent an increase from 23.4
37319:17	ascent Muslim 226 . four percent by 2030 despite the dire predictions of a Muslim
37329:26	demographic demographic takeover politically by a particularly by
37339:30	politicians in Europe the Muslim population of the continent is projected
37349:34	to grow from six percent currently to eight percent by 2030 Pakistan is
37359:41	projected to surpass indonesia is the country with the world's largest
37369:45	population at 256 million in the United States the Muslim population is
37379:52	projected to increase from 8.8 of 1% to one-point-seven percent of the
37389:57	population putting it up on a par with the percentage of Jews latter-day saints
373910:03	the expanding Muslim in church presence in the US and the world means that these
374010:09	two faiths and their adherence are increasingly coming into contact with
374110:13	each other the Islamic working group has begun to identify points of contact
374210:18	patterns and successes and look at ways that they can be expanded the purpose of
374310:24	our efforts is 21 understand Islam better to build better relationships and
374410:31	three better educate our members about Islam an important aspect of reaching
374510:38	out to islam is to have for materials about the church and its teachings in
374610:42	the principal languages of Islam analysis of what we have currently
374710:47	indicates that we could reach approximately eighty percent of Muslims
374810:52	with are latter-day scriptures and basic church materials that are already
374910:56	complete
375010:57	Devore in process of translation it's important to continue this work so that
375111:02	these tools can be available to educate Muslims about the church now and to help
375211:09	preach the gospel in the future the Lord continues to raise up men and women to
375311:14	perform this work
375411:16	another witness that he is involved in the details of the kingdom in a MTG two
375511:22	years ago with the head of the non-related Muslim religions in Iraq mr.
375611:27	Abdullah he told me the problem with you is that nobody knows about you you need
375711:33	to send me more copies of the book of mormon the problem is that it is
375811:39	impossible to send materials into many Muslim nations with materials and key
375911:44	Islamic languages available and in preparation the iwg are in Islamic
376011:50	working group is carefully exploring ways to extend their reach to the Muslim
376111:55	populations utilizing the lds.org platform area presidencies are using
376212:01	simple language landing pages that contain basic materials about the church
376312:06	this modest arabic-language landing page was posted several months ago those
376412:13	requesting copies of the book of mormon from closed countries previously were
376512:18	told we just couldn't send a copy to them now we simply refer them to the
376612:24	website the page is receiving an average of about 500 hits a month from countries
376712:29	such as Egypt Iraq Rocco Saudi Arabia tunisia and cutter in addition Arab
376812:37	members are now linking the landing page to their Facebook pages ensuring it
376912:41	through other social media the Islamic working group has also begun exploring
377012:47	the interactions of church members and institutions with Islam this includes
377112:52	discussions with public affairs area presidencies universities and other
377212:56	organizations
377312:58	our objective is to identify and develop relationships with persons of influence
377413:03	within the Islamic community both domestically and internationally and
377513:08	I'll today discuss two
377613:10	examples of those efforts Brigham Young University provides a wealth of
377713:15	experience and contacts with Islam developed through personal relationships
377813:21	of professors academic programs and research efforts in many nations we're
377913:26	trying to appropriately leverage this storehouse wherever possible
378013:33	one of the great nuggets in the storehouses the Islamic translation
378113:38	series this is operates within that the framework of the Neal a Maxwell center
378213:44	for religious scholarship the initiative selects classic texts of literary and
378313:51	scientific value from the Golden Age of Islam and utilizes world-class scholars
378413:56	to translate them and print them in a side-by-side format in Arabic in English
378514:02	this initiative makes text available for first for the first time in the non-arab
378614:09	speaking world and helps to build bridges between eastern and western
378714:13	scholars 11 volumes have been translated and published to date these volumes have
378814:19	been presented to scholars and government officials as a demonstration
378914:22	of the church's respect for Islam and and a commitment to dialogue and
379014:27	interfaith harmony
379114:29	another example is the upcoming exhibit of Islamic card at the BYU art museum
379214:34	from late februari through September of 2012 BYU will host this unique in all
379314:41	the world exhibit new working group has recognized the potential that this
379414:46	exhibit has to expand outreach using and and we'll use the opportunity to build
379514:53	relationships with key Muslim community leaders in the US and to familiarize
379614:58	them with the church and its teachings and also has plans to help use this
379715:04	exhibit to educate church members regarding Muslim culture and teachings
379815:09	thank you fiber current church policy permits Muslims to be taught and
379915:15	baptized in countries where there is broad constitutionally-protected
380015:19	religious freedom provided the can
380115:22	it has citizenship in one of these countries or long-term visa is pursuing
380215:27	long-term residence in a country where the church is established and freedom of
380315:31	religion is permitted and has no known family members who violently opposed to
380415:36	retaliate against the conversions when these conditions are met with careful
380515:41	supervision from the mission president including specific instructions to the
380615:46	candidate regarding risk and other things with some investigators may be
380715:50	taught and baptized
380815:52	please note however that the current policy also states that only Muslims who
380915:58	approached the church or who are encountered during routine cross
381016:01	lighting maybe talk the policy specifically states that there should be
381116:05	no outreach programs directed toward Muslim populations or neighborhoods the
381216:11	church is now present with organized units or humanitarian efforts in more
381316:15	than 170 countries and territories represented here in blue in the vast
381416:20	majority of these countries Muslims could be caught in baptized under the
381516:24	current policy if encountered during routine possible cross lighting
381616:28	activities the countries represented here in green are where we are not
381716:32	proselytizing listens
381816:34	although we do not keep records on the prior religion of our converts the
381916:39	records of the church indicate that based on their place of birth and other
382016:43	circumstances there are approximately 20 to 25,000 members who may have can
382116:49	converted from Islam we don't know the full scope of what is happening in
382216:55	countries where we are teaching and baptizing Muslims but we are beginning
382316:58	to study and understand more we would like to share with you what we are
382417:03	learning and in a few minutes we will also share a few personal stories that
382517:07	exemplify some of these things during the past several weeks members of the
382617:12	Islamic working group visited separately to missions where there are large
382717:16	concentrated Iranian populations and visited with the mission presidents the
382817:20	missionaries and a few converts and investigators eldercare and visited Los
382917:25	Angeles and found that consistent with the current policy there are no outreach
383017:30	pro
383117:31	grams to the Muslim population there and that accordingly
383217:34	there's virtually no missionary activity among them the missionaries reported
383317:38	teaching Muslims very rarely and doing so only in English with only one or two
383417:43	baptisms per year perhaps understandably the mission president is somewhat
383517:48	daunted by the current from policy in visiting drunko we learned that the
383617:54	circumstances there are quite different in 2007 while presiding over the mission
383717:59	president a dark austere wrote a letter to church headquarters seeking direction
383818:04	permission to baptize a few Persian investigators and authorization to
383918:09	expand cross lighting work among them in response he received verbal
384018:13	authorization from Elder Robert S would thus a measured monitored work among the
384118:19	Persians began with the help of the former state president who is an
384218:22	attorney working on immigration matters with canadian government careful
384318:26	attention was given to visa immigration immigration and residency matters a few
384418:32	infield elders were assigned to learn Farsi and active cross lighting efforts
384518:36	began the current mission president now infield only a few months actively
384618:42	supports this effort he has refined the monitoring of the polit policy
384718:47	principles considerably and has four elders who are learning Farsi and
384818:51	teaching Persian investigators regularly these fine elders are respectful of
384918:56	Islam and they simply do not teach anyone who is not openly interested in
385019:01	learning about the church almost exclusively they are teach those they
385119:06	are teaching our friends version members on average just from these four elders
385219:13	about 40 Persians per year are joining the church in this mission the converts
385319:18	are readily assimilated and welcomed into the local units by the members now
385419:26	we would like to show you and share with you the stories of several Muslim
385519:30	converse to help you see the diversity of those that have joined the church
385619:34	both in culture and in-country Muhammad already I've is from baghdad iraq
385719:43	in 2003 after the US invasion Muhammad was visiting the hospital where his wife
385819:49	worked as he walked down the hall he saw in one of the rooms US Army private
385919:53	Jessica Lynch had been captured by Iraqi forces at great risk to his own life he
386019:59	reported what he had seen to the US marine headquarters help diagram the
386120:03	hospital for them and led them to her after the rescue in march of $YEAR 2003
386220:09	mom and his wife and two children were granted asylum in the United States to
386320:12	protect them from retribution in early $MONTH 2010 Muhammad was was standing
386420:19	outside electronic store trying to figure out how to use a new smartphone
386520:23	he had just purchased yes two young men passing by and white shirts and ties for
386620:28	help they soon began teaching him the pivotal moment in Muhammad's conversion
386720:35	occurred when he watched finding faith in Christ the video when he finished
386820:40	Muhammad had tears in his eyes and declared that Jesus Christ was much
386920:44	greater than the Prophet Muhammad who never walked on water raise the dead or
387020:49	healed the sick Muhammad was baptized in virginia on 15 maze 2010 and several of
387120:56	his friends of accept the invitation to hear the lessons his wife has not yet
387221:01	joined the church next is bulent bullet bullet was born and raised in Istanbul
387321:09	Turkey and in his twenties moves salt lake city in 1997 to work with the 2002
387421:15	$YEAR winter olympics
387521:17	he grew up in a Muslim family learned arabic read the Quran and attended
387621:21	mosque he had an undeniable conviction his heart about God's existence wouldn't
387721:27	had a sincere desire to learn truth and study the beliefs of other religions
387821:32	after arriving in utah he began inquiring about the teachings of the
387921:36	church by the horns hordes Horace Milligan invited bullet to a fireside
388021:44	and his ward
388121:45	although Boland could not understand much of what was said he was deeply
388221:49	touched by the spirit one Saturday night while reading the book of mormon bulent
388321:55	prayed fervently
388421:56	need to know if the savior lives he fell asleep by his bedside and woke up with
388522:02	no apparent answer that more that morning bulletin went to church with
388622:07	brother Milligan as they began to sing the opening hymn him he had never sung
388722:12	before it was unmet unmistakeably familiar
388822:16	he then realized that he had been humming that very soon since he had
388922:20	awoken that morning went then read the title of the him i know that my redeemer
389022:27	lives and received by the power of the Spirit in that moment the witness of the
389122:33	living reality of Jesus Christ all of this in answer to his prayers the
389222:38	previous night he was baptized in salt lake city in 1998 and was subsequently
389322:45	married in the temple last year he was called to serve as president of the Salt
389422:50	Lake granite park stake my mood evangel was raised muslim in God he attended
389523:09	Islamic schools will start how to identify the flaws and Christianity your
389623:16	members were needed Jesus Christ cannot be the son of god because god is not be
389723:19	gotten
389823:20	neither can he get along with some reported biblical contradictions
389923:25	however owing to strong a strong desire to find True Religion he joined three
390023:30	different Christian group churches successfully successively but eventually
390123:34	reverted to Islam after some months he met the missionaries he was surprised to
390223:41	learn of the book of mormon of the word of wisdom which peaked his interest but
390323:44	there was a lingering question if Christianity and Islam were both playing
390423:49	that without being Christian or being Muslim one could not inherit the kingdom
390523:52	of God then all was to become his great-grandparents who knew Peter after
390623:59	the missionaries introduced him to the plan of salvation and the temple he
390724:04	reported one morning on my way to work as I pondered over the
390824:09	thoughts I felt a sensation that I had never experienced before in my life my
390924:17	reaction to this sensation was to start running and shouting I got it I got it
391024:26	Muhammad was baptized his wife later joined him and a year later they and
391124:31	their children were sealed
391224:32	next is the medrad nnamani family pedrad nnamani was born and raised in Iran he
391324:42	chose to study at BYU because of its study it because of its standards while
391424:47	attending school he worked at kby you there he had the opportunity to watch
391524:52	the devotionals and messages from general conferences he felt something
391624:59	that he could not explain whenever he heard the name of the Lord he knew why
391725:04	what he felt that Jesus was special
391825:07	he returned home to Iran and became began working there and there he met and
391925:13	married his wife Miriam in 1995 they return to BYU for graduate studies and a
392025:20	daughter mary was born he reported everybody around us was so helpful
392125:26	friendly and kind they invited us to their activities in church the
392225:32	experience we had was very special
392325:34	they had so much love for someone that was not a member of their church my wife
392425:39	once said these people are much more Muslim then we are the love and service
392525:49	they express supersedes the Muslims they follow the commandments of God they are
392625:55	the true believers we just talk about it after a period back in Iran they
392726:01	returned to the United States this time to houston to pursue a PhD and they
392826:06	miraculously received a visa after a few days in Houston Miriam said we need to
392926:13	find the moments they did and they were welcomed in they knew that conversion
393026:18	was punishable by death if they return to
393126:21	Iran but now they were residents of the united states they knew the gospel was
393226:26	true and made the decision to be baptized they have been sealed and are
393326:31	now helping on the translation of the Book of moment into Fosse and they
393426:34	express powerful testimonies wrought among Garcia was raised in a traditional
393526:42	cosmic village he married almost schoolteacher and they moved to Almaty
393626:46	where he opened a business selling goods at an open-air market
393726:50	murat and Alma had a son and a daughter max up and Sabina it was in the market
393826:56	where murata nominate a member of the church who invited them to attend
393926:59	activities they soon that they have found the truth but it took longer for
394027:04	them to sort out and understand the implications it would have for their
394127:09	family and community traditions rot carefully looked at the church doctrines
394227:14	and practices related to every aspect of his life two berths two deaths to
394327:20	funerals to holidays to be sure that he would be able to be a faithful member
394427:24	and honor and I and honor his family and culture his son moxa received his
394527:30	witness early on and wanted to be baptized but out of respect insisted
394627:34	that he could not be baptized before his father and his father's urging microsoft
394727:39	was baptized and was joined a few months later by the rest of the family oxide
394827:45	has now served a successful mission to Ukraine and Russia and is engaged to be
394927:49	married in the temple this summer
395027:52	Sabine is putting in her mission papers to leave after the wedding the story of
395127:58	stories of these members provide a small sampling of the way Muslims are
395228:02	encountering the gospel and embracing membership in the church it is clear
395328:07	that the Lord's hand is upon these people in mind such diverse places Asia
395428:13	Eastern Europe and the Near East and West Africa other cure on will now share
395528:18	some of what we're learning problem are remarkable thing and work is unfolding
395628:25	among the Muslims in places where there is a natural confluence of Christianity
395728:30	and Islam you might say in countries where there is a broadcast
395828:34	traditionally protected religious freedom where this work is most
395928:38	effective it is the result of a natural interest that has developed on the part
396028:43	of individual Muslims occasion in part by the confidence that their interest
396128:49	will not invite persecution or or reprisal from their family or
396228:53	community's interest is often founded on a relationship with a good neighbor
396328:59	this work is most effective also weather is a capable competent mission president
396429:06	who understands the policy of the church relating to teaching and baptizing
396529:10	Muslims and is willing to hold the missionaries accountable accordingly
396629:15	this is unfolding without providing special lesson lessons or materials
396729:20	current materials are being used effectively with simple adaptations and
396829:25	occasional added emphasis missionaries are adept at identifying where special
396929:30	emphasis made main may need to be placed in the teaching process following preach
397029:35	my gospel guidelines received obstacles to the conversion of Muslims such as
397129:41	Jesus Christ being the son of god and profits following Muhammad can be
397229:46	overcome
397329:47	not by reason or deep optional engagement but rather by the Spirit is
397429:52	missionaries teach the truth their testimony and invite Muslim
397529:57	investigators to ask God and listen to his answer
397630:02	we're learning that those muslims who indicate interest in restored gospel are
397730:07	often spiritual in nature and receptive to the voice of the Spirit while
397830:13	missionaries may sometimes struggle when teaching other Christians about some of
397930:17	the unique elements of the restored gospel Muslims can be more prepared to
398030:23	receive them in perhaps unexpected ways for example while interested muslims may
398130:29	initially questioned a possible the possibility of a profit after Muhammad
398230:34	they're not put off by the reality of God speaking to a profit centuries after
398330:39	Jesus Christ the same can be said about the reality of additional scriptures
398430:44	such as the book moment
398530:47	even on things where there should be general religious acceptance among
398630:51	Christians Muslims can recognize the importance of adhering to a divine moral
398730:56	code and the value of dietary guidelines and fasting they are receptive to the
398831:02	divine origin of the commandment to pay tithes and offerings they come with a
398931:07	disposition for and a habit of regular prayer in all of these things for
399031:13	Muslims enjoying the security of protected religious freedom their
399131:17	Islamic training and background can prepare them well to receive the
399231:21	restored gospel truth there are many things that could be considered as
399331:26	possible steps forward it may be helpful to think in terms of both short-term
399431:31	efforts and long-term efforts among other things possible shorthand term
399531:35	efforts could include the following identify countries and areas of the
399631:40	world for religious freedom is protected where there is a sufficient
399731:43	concentration of Muslims to work possible missionary activity and where
399831:47	there is a societal mingling of Christianity and Islam that broadly
399931:51	encourages tolerance and mutual respect
400031:54	review the current policy and consider a refinement that would allow and
400131:58	carefully monitor outreach to muslims in such locations in such locations allow
400232:05	for respectful and measured cross lighting among muslims and provide the
400332:08	means for those Muslims to indicate interest in the church to be taught and
400432:12	baptized subject to careful adherence to approve guidelines consider individual
400532:18	mission by mission authorization for outreach efforts in approved locations
400632:22	provide specialized training permission presidents of approved missions consider
400732:28	translating into target languages existing materials that would be useful
400832:31	and approved missions consider providing periodical language training at the MTC
400932:36	and targeted languages to assist in the measured and monitored expansion of the
401032:41	work in approved missions long-term efforts might include the following
401132:45	continue bridge building efforts with key people and organizations like those
401232:50	elder Piper mentioned earlier foster a receptive environment with
401332:54	in the church for muslim convert through education and integration and develop
401432:59	muscle converts through leadership opportunities that would prepare them
401533:03	for future service whenever and wherever the Lord may call either elder oaks our
401633:10	elder Hollander here who provide our direction in this committee president
401733:16	we've enjoyed this assignment
401833:18	it's a challenging assignment but we followed that direction in 1980 shortly
401933:24	after the revelation on priesthood was received a member of this court said the
402033:28	following looking ahead we see the gospel preached in all nations and to
402133:35	every people with success attended we see the Lord break down the barriers so
402233:42	that the world of Islam and the world of communism hear the message of the
402333:47	restoration and we glory in the fact that ish MO as well as Isaac and Esau as
402433:55	well as Jacob shall have an inheritance in the eternal Kingdom we see
402534:02	congregations of the covenant people worship worshiping the lord in Moscow
402634:08	and peaking and Saigon we see sights of the most high raising their voices in
402734:15	Egypt and India and Africa we see stakes of Zion in all parts of the earth and
402834:23	Israel the chosen people gathering into these cities of holiness as it were to
402934:29	await the coming of their kid that's the report of our work president
403034:38	president have just a comment that i think will be of interest everybody this
403134:43	you've got al Jazeera here this this weekend you're working with them and
403234:49	Richard hinckley said taking them through a guided tours and he was
403334:54	looking at that I think this was said one sport before but elder ballard and I
403435:00	were in New York to see Fox News and meet with the wall street journal
403535:04	editorial board aljazeera sent word through Achmed our public affairs that
403635:08	the african-american there that that they really wanted to have a broadcast
403735:15	to the Arabic world this was december of 2007 they were intensely interested that
403835:21	Mitt Romney was a Mormon it was the last election and they wanted to have
403935:25	somebody come on i was quite rude reserved about doing that but other out
404035:31	about it ask well how many people would see it and they said millions and 100
404135:36	said I'll do it and so we went down to al-jazeera studio and they had a very
404235:42	respectful moderator there and I got to listen as he had the interview with him
404335:48	are battered basically went through a first lesson first discussion in the and
404435:54	the it preach my gospel based on the questions that were that were asked and
404536:00	I i listened to it and and they were supposedly translating what was going on
404636:06	other what about it said and Joseph Smith was a prophet and what I heard
404736:12	comeback was arabic language that said something about Muhammad which hadn't
404836:17	been said I'm sure they sent back
404936:19	of course we know that there's no prophet muhammad I was some this was
405036:24	this was shown on December 23rd or 24th 2007 to millions of people in the
405136:30	testimony under the first lesson and and I subsequently had a up and when i was
405236:36	in washington DC couple years later this man came up to me says I heard this
405336:41	young man he says I heard another Ballard do that I'm i speak Arabic I
405436:46	tried to find out what he was doing I decided he was with the CIA because he
405536:49	wouldn't tell me what he was doing but I asked him if he would get me an english
405636:54	transcript of the of what has been said in Arabic so that i could see how what
405737:00	it actually ended up going out and he sent that to me and it really was it a
405837:06	wonderful first lesson to millions of people over algae's our december twenty
405937:11	third 2007 or 24 December 24 2007 in the context of we want you to know what one
406037:18	Mormon candidate believes that is running for president I states that was
406137:22	that that was the context of line
406237:25	that's all I might add the tip when I went to Turkey last June to see if we
406337:31	could make some progress there this president bullet was very helpful to me
406437:37	and what I might say to that think tank who wanted to know something about our
406537:43	church and but I haven't seen him before
406637:47	you've shown this picture a most remarkable story was a great help to us
406737:55	and incidentally when the Europeans tarea presidency reports to the area
406838:00	committee there about the next one up so they will close with their comments on
406938:07	the progress that's been made in turkey where you have this great opportunity of
407038:14	preaching Christianity in his Islamic country and they will end their
407138:19	presentation with our progress injury is a very significant what's going on in
407238:25	Toronto because there are a lot of
407338:29	of the people of Islam so it moved into trono and I'm grateful to see that were
407438:37	finally actually tried to do what they're starting to see what's there and
407538:44	there are a lot of other places just like Toronto I think so your ideas about
407638:49	picking what missions we can work on earth to make spot-on yet present to
407738:55	automation here well here's all the other valid exactly right there is a
407839:02	large enclave the knows that the Islamic may be had when i was there probably a
407939:10	hundred members of the church between two different branches it was
408039:14	interesting that a number of them told me that we we have participated in the
408139:20	Islamic culture but we have many reservations about the Islam things
408239:24	that's opened our minds here missionaries with some limited approval
408339:30	we actually had missionaries who wanted to learn farsi on their own language of
408439:37	from Iran's and remarkably these missions are this very difficult
408539:41	language on their own these videos this is incredible
408639:46	they could do i spent a day with one of them and I saw him with various people
408739:51	from Iran come in and you would write on the board from right to lat talk with
408839:56	them they interchange went out on the streets were just talking with people
408940:01	and this is all these two young ladies probably young adults walk by asked if
409040:09	they had interest in the church and they said they had no interest whatsoever and
409140:14	then he must have detected they were from around and he started to speak to
409240:17	enforce they just stopped dead in their tracks and talked with him for a long
409340:23	time but maybe five or seven minutes it just opened the door so i think a little
409440:29	by little with the doors opening certainly true
409540:32	it's one of those key locations
409640:36	thank you one of the preparations i think in addition to far we talked to
409740:42	them but it's preparing our members and how to receive them what we're getting a
409840:48	lot of bias developed when we listen to the news with the terrorist activities
409940:55	and the perception that these are not right
410041:01	exactly so i think that that's part of the plant needs to be operated I just
410141:10	had one other thing from from when i was in Toronto to being up there a year and
410241:18	a half ago
410341:19	it's like you can't believe the change of the congregation that's like that
410441:25	like the united nations up there I mean is we held a stake conference and I
410541:31	couldn't believe what i was looking at and so that we've got to get to those
410641:35	that's way we're going to get to a lot of those nations that date
410741:39	I don't think they have a problem being assimilated in that maybe as you talk
410841:44	where we gotta work i think that's we've we hear some stories of people coming to
410941:50	church and then being asked questions that reflect ignorance on the part of
411041:55	the member
411141:56	we've got to fix that don't open the door for this Patrick year and a half
411242:02	ago and i was in england i want to go over president hinckley first apartment
411342:06	was totally Muslim isn't and that is that whole area it is it is I water
411442:13	mother 45 waterworld there isn't it late already born Englishman with in many
411542:18	many ways
411642:19	Indonesia has a largest percentage president constellations any country in
411742:29	the world we have a mission there 10 million Christians and Indonesia have a
411842:36	sticker to question we have the steak there too
411942:40	that's right just recently that there's a lot of contacts for that those were
412042:50	reported in the Asia report and they focused on those three Muslim nations of
412142:55	malaysia Pakistan Indonesia and we kind of tried not to retread that territory
412243:02	or go to Turkey where we know that Europe East is focused so where they
412343:05	were in contact and we're trying to provide a supporting role and seeing
412443:09	what we can do it headquarters to support them in their efforts i think
412543:12	this is important for better know as we branch out even though it's in other
412643:18	area you're very much part of it in instructing them help with the dentist
412743:25	Norwich wander and his wife getting things started in Turkey are grateful
412843:33	anything out and really reports
412943:37	well as that for you
4130
4131========================================================
4132Mormon Leaks
4133Title:	In Which the Apostles Obsess Over Chelsea Manning's Sexuality
4134LDS title:	WikiLeaks
4135Recorded:	1/12/2011
4136Length:	7:07
4137
4138Transcript
4139English (Automatic Captions)
4140
41410:00	could we keeley cakes or a group like WikiLeaks embarrass or damage the church
41420:07	WikiLeaks describes itself as a not-for-profit media organization which
41430:14	provides quote innovative secure and anonymous ways for independent sources
41440:19	to leak information to journalists in other words it's dedicated to radical
41450:26	involuntary transparency or another way to providing untraceable and uncensored
41460:33	ways to expose the secrets of governments and corporations says
41470:40	WikiLeaks director 39-year old Australian Julian Assange speaking is
41480:46	inherently an anti-authoritarian add we get information in the mail
41490:52	we vet it like a regular news organization release it to the public as
41500:57	you've been following front page for the last several weeks
41511:01	US Army Private Bradley Manning contributed to worldwide stir by using a
41521:08	music CD it wasn't actually this one but it looked something like this and a
41531:13	drive or several to transfer hundreds of thousands of confidential us reports on
41541:20	Afghanistan Iraq and US diplomacy to WikiLeaks which then made it made them
41551:26	public now as you may be aware WikiLeaks is threatening to quote take down a
41561:30	major American bank and as you've also seen bank of america shares fell for a
41571:36	period of time
41581:37	everyone assumes that there are the target three WikiLeaks implications
41591:43	first headlines to the contrary
41601:46	most analysts agree WikiLeaks revealed no war changing state secrets they
41611:51	really had none to reveal though it did breach US diplomatic confidences and
41621:56	chilled future candor second in sympathy with WikiLeaks this is I think more
41632:03	troubling development anonymous shadowy hackers group
41642:09	coordinated online attacks against Visa MasterCard and PayPal and threatened if
41652:15	WikiLeaks for attack to unleash cyber Armageddon third publix ask our
41662:23	WikiLeaks groups heroes or anarchists as often happens a virtue like information
41672:30	freedom can be taken to an extreme and become advice three possible church
41682:36	implications first technical attack are we sufficiently protected against
41692:42	industrial-strength cyber attacks by well-funded capable countries or groups
41702:49	which probed the church each day
41712:51	let me give you an example a Russian hacker claims to have broken the
41722:55	encryption with authenticates photographs in other words he says
41733:00	there's no technical way to show that these photographs are not real
41743:04	we look at them we know instantly that they can't be real
41753:08	you can have a Russian flag on the moon but he says if you look at the
41763:12	encryption involved you can tell technically that they have been doctored
41773:15	second personnel attack breaches often begin within disgruntled individual on
41783:24	the inside often in a lower level position with access in a remote
41793:29	location private Manning reportedly became depressed after his homosexual
41803:36	companion left him and then lecture him and on his Facebook page private Manning
41813:41	wrote i am not a piece of equipment he said he could access sensitive documents
41823:47	court because of weak servers week logging week physical facility we
41833:52	counterintelligence inattentive signals analysis . a perfect storm so technical
41844:00	personnel third is the unintended do we have appropriate protocols in case of
41854:07	accidental loss or theft of the church laptop and ipad or data drive with
41864:13	sensitive information a question that's worth asking frequently either
41874:19	in the end this we do know and the rebellious shall be pierced with much
41884:26	sorrow for their iniquities shall be spoken upon the housetops and their
41894:31	secret acts are the ones that shall be revealed
41904:35	comments questions I'm forgotten by the sergeant is now he's in solitary
41914:43	confinement they're worried about him committing suicide
41924:48	I think what they're trying to do is to build a case that perhaps there was some
41934:53	solicitation of the material the the WikiLeaks people say no no it came to us
41944:59	we had no idea where was coming from
41955:01	it's not clear whether that's in fact the case that he has confirmed your
41965:05	homosexual is has anything because that been in the news
41975:08	yes yes york new york times is that some peace just in the very beginning
41985:15	yeah there was a elder oaks initially a concern the possibility that had been
41995:22	reprimanded for homosexual issues but that was not in the news after which he
42005:29	is I think openly homosexual and the reports whereas other Cook was
42015:34	mentioning that his companion left in many became depressed and that seems to
42025:40	been based on his his facebook writings one of the features that caused him to
42035:44	do it again
42045:45	the reason i asked question is not related to this presentation but I i'm
42055:49	suspicious that the news media didn't cover up anything involving homosexuals
42065:56	when it would work to the disadvantage of the homosexual agenda and so on i
42076:01	just wanted to do some of that in this it was in the collateral press in New
42086:05	York Times covered as hell right to begin
42096:07	thank you it required that Ollie bright stars and in band Ollie processes are
42106:14	corrupt
42116:17	surely it must not be the case that everyone who is bright and inviting
42126:20	things as crop but clearly someone specifically the ones that have
42136:27	my own senses you listen to this particular man Julian Assange the
42146:35	rhetoric is surely a nice idea that there should be freedom of information
42156:39	but when you when you listen to me get a feel from you get a much more of the
42166:44	anarchist and the freedom fighter
42176:46	yeah was he gay yeah I don't know he was under indictment as as you're alluding
42186:53	to for sexual assault but it seemed to be rape charges that that he was coming
42196:57	or not
42206:58	not for being gay well thank you I think
4221
4222========================================================
4223Mormon Leaks
4224Title:	Breifing on the Housing Crisis
4225LDS title:	Moral Hazard
4226Recorded:	11/17/2008
4227Length:	7:19
4228
4229Transcript
4230English (Automatic Captions)
4231
42320:02	things at home things abroad world attention is riveted this week on the US
42330:09	financial crisis including the issue of moral hazard dating to the sixteen
42340:16	hundreds and often associated with insurance moral hazard is defined as a
42350:21	situation where individuals or institutions do not bear the full cost
42360:27	of their actions and consequently they take more or greater risks often leaving
42370:33	another party to bear some responsibility for their decisions x
42380:38	sante moral hazard arises when an insured party takes greater risks for
42390:44	example a car owner with theft insurance maybe less careful locking his car if he
42400:50	thinks insurance will pay off the car stolen ex-post moral hazard arises when
42410:56	an incident occurs and an insured party seeks more goods or services then they
42421:02	would have had they not been insured for example some might forgo inexpensive
42431:08	surgical procedure if they were paying for it themselves but elected if
42441:12	insurance pays a popular example of moral hazard comes from the American
42451:18	League 1973 designated hitter rule economist hypothesized that quote
42461:24	because they are not required to appear at the plate American league pitchers
42471:29	can throw it opposing hitters with greater and community that is at a lower
42481:34	cost the national league pitchers who must take their turn it back
42491:39	in fact I have a scholarly article by three economist says quote American
42501:47	League batters have been hit by pitches ten to fifteen percent more frequently
42511:51	than nationally batters since the designated hitter rule was introduced
42521:56	evidence consistent with a classic moral hazard problem financial moral hazard
42532:04	came front-and-center this past Friday when the US government as we have all
42542:08	been reading refused to bail out deeply troubled Lehman Brothers Merrill ensure
42552:13	american international group aig this surprised me because the US Treasury and
42562:19	Federal Reserve had recently of course stepped in to facilitate the sale of
42572:24	bear stearns and to take into conservatorship affordable housing
42582:28	Giants freddie mac and fannie mae yesterday is we've all seen the US
42592:33	government maintained its no moral hazard resolve but try to come financial
42602:38	markets through two actions
42612:40	first the fed in the unanimous phone left the key federal funds interest rate
42622:46	unchanged at two percent and second the US government extended an 85 billion
42632:51	bailout loan to AIG for 79.99 percent equity stake in the company whose market
42642:58	value a shrunk from a hundred and seventy billion dollars a year ago to 10
42653:03	billion dollars today but whose derivatives and other financial
42663:06	involvement effect 130 countries the American financial landscape is
42673:13	dramatically altered with the loss of these venerable iconic institutions
42683:18	founded in 1850 lehman brothers had an 858 year institutional history merrill
42693:25	lynch and 96 year institutional history embarrassed earns an 85-year history
42703:31	collectively the six troubled institutions were responsible at 1.4
42713:36	4.69 a trillion dollars in assets and 230,000 936 employees how did we get to
42723:46	today
42733:48	many trays to pre lead to problems subprime crisis to the year 2000 when
42743:54	federal reserve interest rate cuts spur an unprecedented number of mortgage
42753:59	originations lower borrowing costs and loosen standards open the way for many
42764:05	new homebuyers some of them did not initially qualify for home mortgages
42774:10	real home prices skyrocket by 2006 subprime and so-called all Taillow
42784:18	documentation loans become a significant percentage of total mortgage origination
42794:23	his elder hales pointed out buyers sellers brokers lenders underwriters
42804:29	investors all play a moral hazard game of slicing dicing packaging relaxing
42814:35	standards and passing risk to someone else while speculating on prices and
42824:41	taking handsome fees even as home price appreciation plateaus or turns downward
42834:47	in September 2007 meltdown begins the top 25 lenders names we know such as
42844:56	hsbc finance new century Countrywide Financial begin hemorrhaging on some 543
42855:04	billion dollars in tainted loans 2008 to date over 450 billion dollars of
42865:11	subprime related writedowns have been announced with more anticipated
42875:16	coincidentally i was in new york yesterday for financial futures forum
42885:21	and if you'll allow me would share three brief observations on things that
42895:25	reminded me deeply that we have some commotion but no need for fear first
42905:33	though not a member of the church a friend's summarize the situation
42915:36	essentially by courting the book of mormon he said quote fear always follows
42925:43	greed we had greed and now we have fear but things will right themselves until
42935:50	greed sets in again second serene and happy was average sing the cab driver
42945:59	from the Punjab in India
42956:01	with whom I wrote in from JFK he's worked the last 14 years basically every
42966:07	day to support his parents brother and sister and now he's preparing to return
42976:13	home
42986:14	this December now 30
42996:17	he smiled shyly and says it is now my turn to marry and have a family his of
43006:25	the Sikh religion but I telling families can be forever
43016:29	he smiles he says he believe so too
43026:32	and finally the perfect response to might be called the moral agency moral
43036:39	hazard for we know that is by grace that we are saved
43046:44	after all we can do today's update comments or questions thank you get a
43056:56	property interest lol down
43067:00	you didn't untag ulit I'm not sure to entangle easily but isn't it interesting
43077:06	that life goes on for most people despite this commotion at the top
43087:11	thanks very much thank you
4309
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