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3<cukier> Nae: That link is amazing.
4<@Nae> yepp
5<@Nae> I'd use that to inspire someone to learn to code. Easier than learning Piano XD
6<cukier> I want someone to teach me music theory.
7<@Nae> same
8<@Nae> While I understood some of his lisp, I have no fucking clue about the music theory
9<Yewnyx> lisp is a pretty neat language
10<cukier> I love looking at things that I know how they work and see what's happening there and it's awesome as in Awe.
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12<cukier> And when I listen to the music I feel that things are happening
13<cukier> but I don't understand them.
14<cukier> And I feel like I could have more complete thing if I understood them.
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16<Luminifera> ...
17<Luminifera> You must be joking if you think programming is easier than music
18<howl> music is probably harder to teach than programming
19<Olivebirdy> ehh, maybe
20<Olivebirdy> Singing is pretty easy
21<Olivebirdy> And that's also music.
22<Quanfinigon> no it isn't
23<cukier> ^
24<Olivebirdy> Yes it is.
25<cukier> It's not music theory.
26<cukier> And we were talking about music theory.
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30<Olivebirdy> Ah, music theory is annoying.
31<cukier> Why is it annoying?
32<Olivebirdy> :<
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34<Yewnyx> instruments are wayyyyyyy harder than using a mouse and keyboard, but programming is more like composing than playing music
35<Yewnyx> imo
36<cukier> Yes.
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41<howl> programming is easier than composing
42<Olivebirdy> What would happen if Grue drained/used Weld's power?
43<Olivebirdy> Or Sveta's?
44<howl> the two tasks are functionally identical, but in one of them the target machine is poorly defined, and every instance runs a slightly different OS.
45<Olivebirdy> Maybe Grue gets immunity to Mantpn-Limited powers, Weld's Changer effect gets a bit slower?
46<cukier> I think he would be still made of flesh, but will stick to all the metal
47<cukier> and assuming he gets enough metal in contact with him, then he will swap his flesh for metal
48<cukier> and then he will be immune to manton-limited powers.
49<Benguin> and when it wears off?
50<Benguin> would he be fucked?
51<howl> are metallic bodies really manton toggled towards inorganic matter?
52<Benguin> no
53<howl> Can Vista bend Hookwolf for example?
54<Benguin> both inorganic and organic
55<Benguin> in welds case
56<Benguin> he's hard to target with powers that affect only either of them
57<Benguin> panacea would have a hard time but so would Vista.
58<Benguin> Iirc.
59<howl> shame.
60<howl> They could tag team like "Stretchy Punch!"
61<Olivebirdy> That would be kind of cool.
62<Olivebirdy> Metal sticks to Grue.
63<Panda> Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you
64<Panda> Cuz I'm Weld and you're Grue
65<Olivebirdy> Then he leaves Weld's range..
66• Panda: nods
67<Panda> I'm caught up.
68<Olivebirdy> And is encased in armor he can't get off.
69<Olivebirdy> Oops.
70<Benguin> he might even integrate it into his body
71<Benguin> and then get very ill once the power is gone
72<cukier> Yes.
73<lankhmar> what happens if grue steals welds power...and then touches weld?
74<lankhmar> bwahaha
75<cukier> :D
76<Benguin> Weld could maybe use him as a power sink
77<Benguin> and sort of
78<Benguin> wick the metal on him to grue
79<Benguin> and then probably die if he has any metal organs
80<howl> Coule a powerful enough ferrokinetic wear Weld like a suit?
81<Benguin> could be a good way to get rid of excess.
82<cukier> Well... Weld counts as both organic and inorganic. So Grue won't stick to organic Weld.
83<Benguin> no
84<lankhmar> oh now that would be funny
85<lankhmar> wearing weld wearing svet
86<Benguin> weld is good against non-organic attacks too remember
87<Benguin> Not sure if it's inviolable immunity thoufgdh
88<howl> Squshy core, Weld outer later, and a Sveta hat.
89<Benguin> or just a "he's fuzzy to me" sort of resistance.
90<howl> the Weldozord needs more parts.
91<howl> shh ben, I'm ignoring reality in favour of my talking Weld suit
92<cukier> Bonesaw can make a suit from most capes.
93<Olivebirdy> Oh god, guys. I love you. <3
94<Olivebirdy> hahah
95<cukier> Panacea too.
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98<cukier> Leto made a suit from small Sandworms.
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102<%JENTHULHU> RAAAAAAAAAAAGE
103<howl> Are you okay JEN?
104<Panda> RISE JENTHULHU
105<Panda> RECLAIM YOUR RIGHTFUL SPOT IN OUR PANTHEON
106<%JENTHULHU> I was tricked into DSL
107<Panda> Oi, Cthunnifer, are you still antithetically opposed to looking at things on SV?
108<Panda> Because there's a decent quality quest where you're a spirit aiming to become a god and it might be your speed.
109<Olivebirdy> maze?
110<Rhetorical> o/ Panda
111<Panda> Hey Rhet
112<Panda> Not that one, Olive
113<Panda> But that's a good one too
114<Panda> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/into-the-amber-age-original.21137/
115<Panda> This one. Verra good.
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119<lankhmar> that sounds fun
120<lankhmar> oh my god 300 pages
121<lankhmar> this is clearly quite awesome and/or insanely popular
122<Panda> Both.
123<lankhmar> (those don't always correlate)
124<Panda> It helps that there's /always/ a bunch of discussion/debate in between each vote.
125<Panda> Usually it's quality as well, so that helps.
126<howl> I burnt my broccoli. BALLS
127<Panda> bbl
128<Rhet|class> o/
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130• Rhet|class: pokes Elara
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135<Benguin> Guuh never before have I so wanted to posses the ability to turn a straight guy gay
136<howl> got a housemate crush?
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138<Benguin> Made a great friend in my course/tutor group
139<Benguin> he's basically perfect so far
140<Benguin> good work ethic, confident, attractive, willing to learn, really understanding and... has like an intuitive sense of people.
141<Benguin> And yet
142<Benguin> really approachable
143<cukier> http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/09251135-the-solar-system-at-1-km.html
144<cukier> It's hard. :C
145<Rhet|class> Poor Ben
146<Yewnyx> Benguin: sounds like a good person to stick around for
147<Benguin> Have a feeling we'll be good friends
148<Rhet|class> \o/
149<Benguin> He's 6 years older than me though. tried to take uni when he was my age, didn't like the course he chose
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151<Benguin> did a few years of work to raise money
152<Quanfinigon> well that explains it
153<Benguin> having another crack at it
154<Benguin> Yeah these aren't qualities I've seen in someone my age (where all qualities are present)
155<Yewnyx> six years is nothing
156<Benguin> My problem is that I've skipped what seems to be the typical phase of.. "Woo lets party every night"
157<Benguin> Yeah his age isn't an issue
158<Benguin> just mentioning for context.
159<Yewnyx> i've always hated parties
160<Benguin> less partying and more.. going to clubs every night.
161<Rhet|class> I've never been to one
162<Benguin> That said I'm going on a bar crawl on Friday. Primarily because he'll be there and has offered to help me be less shy/anxious in social situations
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164<Rhet|class> Sweet
165<Benguin> The crawl has a 'white shirt and marker pens' theme
166<Benguin> which is gonna be fun / awkward
167<Benguin> I'm setting some goals here. Goal 1 is to attend. Goal 2 is to actually meet at least 3 people, and have conversations with them that aren't small talk. Goal 3 is to write my number on a guy's titty.
168<Benguin> #3 is somethin' of a stretch goal.
169<PC|GM> Ollie, Terrarium is making an appearance in #WDCharlotte
170<Olivebirdy> Noted :)
171<lankhmar> damn that's kind of fun cukier
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174<Rhet|class> Is that a thing, Ben?
175<Benguin> Yeah
176<Rhet|class> Writing numbers on guys' titties
177<lankhmar> Would need to spend a long time learning about planet formation though <_<
178<Benguin> get to draw on everybody \o/
179<Benguin> oh
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181<Benguin> yeah
182<Benguin> if you draw on their titty via white tshirt
183<Rhet|class> Huh
184<ErrantVagrant> . . .
185<Rhet|class> I guess I need to get out more
186<Rhet|class> :P
187<Rhet|class> Heya EV
188<ErrantVagrant> I don't even want to know.
189<ErrantVagrant> Heya Rhet!
190<Olivebirdy> hi
191<ErrantVagrant> Heya Alive!
192<Rhet|class> o/ Olive
193<ErrantVagrant> ...How did I type A instead of O?
194<ErrantVagrant> Ahem, Heya Olive!
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196<lankhmar> it's fine ErrantVagrant, Benguin wants to doodle on men
197<cukier> lankhmar: I can recognise some of them, but the ones that are just craters are too similar.
198<Benguin> s/on//
199<ErrantVagrant> Top o' the day to ya, lankhmar!  And that is slightly more tolerable.
200<lankhmar> is bottom right olympus mons? could be super wrong though
201<cukier> I don't think so.
202<cukier> Could be Mars though
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205<Rhet|class> brb, quiz
206<lankhmar> tbh a good start cukier would probably be trying to get the ones which clearly have active erosion going on
207<cukier> Do you want to hear my guesses that are probably wrong?
208<lankhmar> sure!
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210<cukier> Pretty sure that blurry one on the left is Titan in infrared.
211<cukier> Second from the bottom on the right is Europa. (if not - then bottom center)
212<cukier> Top right looks like Earth - I see something like rivers
213<cukier> and snow
214<cukier> glaciers?
215<lucid> Space planets all look very similar.
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218<cukier> In the distance many of them look much more different.
219<cukier> Bottom right - looks like sand for me. And dried rivers? I think it's Mars.
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221<%JENTHULHU> blar
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223<cukier> Pluto is certainly on these photos. But center top or second from the top on the left?
224<cukier> !
225<cukier> On the left is this funny moon that is black and white
226<howl> I read that the moon is nearly completely black.
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228<cukier> and center top is a Pluto on a border of the Tombvcoihsuiaegvsd regio.
229<cukier> Very flat ice bordering the mountains.
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232<cukier> I heard it too howl.
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235<%JENTHULHU> we need more pictures of Jupiter II
236<cukier> The hell is the second from the bottom on the left?
237<cukier> Hell?
238<cukier> Is this Venus?
239<cukier> Jupiter II is Europa?
240<PC|GM> I fear I'm being too theatrical at playing Olive's avatar in Charlotte.....
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242<PC|GM> Most of my capes are sneaky, snippy, and kind of insane anyway.
243<LopezThePenguin> You guys seen the Worm CTOA?
244<LopezThePenguin> CYOA*
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246<LopezThePenguin> I got hilariously overpower capes
247<LopezThePenguin> overpowered*
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249<LopezThePenguin> All with RNG
250<Olivebirdy> He seems to be playing it up a bit, yeah.
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252<Benguin> ewwww
253<LopezThePenguin> ew?
254<Benguin> ewwwww! http://i.imgur.com/3Xo2iPi.png
255<LopezThePenguin> Bleh
256<cukier> Middle-bottom right is Ceres probably, because white stuff in the craters.
257<howl> What is it?
258<Benguin> I hope that when it says "or gives an Affirmation" is an alternative to swearing on a Holy Book
259<Benguin> and not just an explanation of what swearing on a holy book is or w/e
260<LopezThePenguin> Swear to the necronomicon
261<Benguin> This is Britain damn it
262<Benguin> I thought we separated church and state
263<Benguin> THis is just to change my legal name
264<Olivebirdy> I am so bored, I'm actually nauseous.
265<Olivebirdy> What should i dooo
266<howl> the state is still officially Christian, but in reality things are more secular here than the US where they're separate.
267<Benguin> Learn somethin'
268<LopezThePenguin> Olive try the CYOA
269<LopezThePenguin> I wanna see what other people come up with
270<LopezThePenguin> http://imgur.com/a/SpOdK
271<Olivebirdy> CYOAs are dumb....
272<LopezThePenguin> I enjoy em
273<Olivebirdy> I'll do it.
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275<Olivebirdy> It annoys me that Standard is 'head and shoulders above the parahuman rabble'
276<LopezThePenguin> Yea
277<Lacks> While I'm firmly of the opinion that any idea can be made into a good story, I think that using the CYOA makes it harder than otherwise.  Not really a fan.
278<LopezThePenguin> I did skitter mode
279<LopezThePenguin> I dont do it to make a story its just for my personal enjoyment
280<LopezThePenguin> I also use it to practice making back stories for characters
281<Olivebirdy> Yeah, I'd rather make some sort of OC.
282<Lacks> That's fine, of course.
283<lankhmar> They spoil the big reveal in the opening paragraph
284• lankhmar: is not impressives
285<lankhmar> *impressed
286<Olivebirdy> I've made a single plan for making an OC.
287<LopezThePenguin> Whats the plan Olive?
288<Lacks> I just prefer free-form stuff, unless it's for a tabletop game or something, which I'm pretty sure the CYOA chart isn't.
289<LopezThePenguin> Nope
290<LopezThePenguin> Theres a subreddit, /r/makeyourchoice
291<Olivebirdy> Get in touch with Cauldron, trade all my information for a good anti-Master vial.
292<Megafire> Hello everyone.
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294<LopezThePenguin> Hey mega
295<Olivebirdy> Go kill Cherish.
296<Megafire> What's up?
297<LopezThePenguin> I would dedicate so much time to fuck up that one kid
298<LopezThePenguin> Greg
299<LopezThePenguin> That one
300<Olivebirdy> Become Butcher, minus icky side-effects and personalities.
301<Gundor> > I don't really buy into the "Coil was dumb at X time" or "Taylor was dumb at Y time" arguments pretty much at all.
302<Gundor> That's because you lack creativity, Lacks! :P
303<LopezThePenguin> heh
304<LopezThePenguin> puns
305<Lacks> Man, don't make me go on a rant here...
306<LopezThePenguin> lankhmar the spoilery bit are for the people that havent read worm so they get the general story
307<LopezThePenguin> Most people on /r/makeyourchoice dont read a lot of the stuff
308<LopezThePenguin> Or they read all of it
309<Gundor> (I actually agree with you, just felt an opening for a pun that subtly pokes fun at the arguments you're disagreeing with)
310<Gundor> (i.e. it requires a creative interpretation of the facts to think that :P)
311<Gundor> *evidence
312<Lacks> Well fair enough.
313<Lacks> I'm too tired right now to be anything other than serious :P
314<Lacks> I had a hell of a day.
315<Yewnyx> aw. *pats*
316<Lacks> I there an emote for sleeping?  That'd be useful right about now.
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319<howl> z_z
320<cukier> Zzz...
321<LopezThePenguin> zZz
322<Lacks> Well yes, that works.
323<Lacks> z_z
324<LopezThePenguin> ZzZ
325<cukier> ߘ <- sleeping face emoji
326<howl> looks like a unicode box to me
327<LopezThePenguin> ^
328<Hakurei06> same
329<cukier> http://i.imgur.com/dCE8c3Y.png
330<LopezThePenguin> Why does your browser look magic
331<Rhetorical> Mmm taquitos
332<cukier> What do you mean?
333<Yewnyx> it's just chromium?
334<cukier> It's just chromium.
335<LopezThePenguin> mm
336<Hakurei06> How does anyone think the YG responded to Denis branding himself as Clock?
337<Rhetorical> YG?
338<Olivebirdy> Indignant.
339<Hakurei06> Youth Guard
340<Bruticus> Yao Guai?
341<Bruticus> Oh
342<Rhetorical> The what now?
343<cukier> Earlier somebody asked if they should eat ramen or taquito. I checked what taquito is, Rhetorical.
344<Gundor> what about yaoguai?
345<Hakurei06> What distro is that, Cukier?
346<cukier> Arch.
347<Gundor> Has that fic updated!?!?
348<Yewnyx> fallout fan detected, Bruticus
349<Teller> Would they even be concerned? That's for the PR people to have headaches over.
350<cukier> WM is Cinnamon(default on Mint)
351<Rhetorical> Theme?
352<Hakurei06> I thought they were the concerned moms advocacy group of worm
353<cukier> Numix
354• Rhetorical: takes notes
355<LopezThePenguin> PPA
356<Gundor> > This thread lies dormant for more than 2 Months. Restarting it causes mods to gaze in your direction.
357<cukier> numix gtk, numix icons, numix cinnamon
358<LopezThePenguin> Parahuman Parents Association
359<Gundor> Why'd you bring my hopes up Bruticus !?
360<Rhetorical> numix numix numix
361<Bruticus> Uh...
362<Bruticus> I have no idea what fic you mean
363<cukier> Ubuntu Human cursors. :P
364<Bruticus> I just say Yao Guai because YG
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366<Rhetorical> Hmm
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368<Rhetorical> Do I get my coffee and be a few minutes late to class, or do I sacrifice all the line-waiting I've done so far?
369<Benguin> Yes
370<Rhetorical> Thanks, Ben
371<cukier> Are there any downsides for being late?
372<Rhetorical> Not really
373<cukier> Get your coffee.
374<Rhetorical> None explicit, anyways
375<ErrantVagrant> Get your coffee.
376<Rhetorical> Will do
377<Bruticus> What fic did you mean, Gundor?
378<Rhetorical> Thank you, personal advisory board
379<Rhetorical> :P
380<cukier> No problem.
381<cukier> I too sometimes outsource my decision making.
382<ErrantVagrant> Then yell that you have claimed this coffee in the name of Spain as you enter class at the top of your lungs.
383• ErrantVagrant: gives the best advice
384<lankhmar> but...it's from Yemen
385<cukier> I need a private phone line to you EV
386<lankhmar> or arabia in general apparently
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388<ErrantVagrant> SILENCE
389<cukier> I need your advicegiving.
390• cukier: falls silent.
391<ErrantVagrant> cukier: That is expensive, though.
392<cukier> :(
393<ErrantVagrant> Nono, you can talk.
394<cukier> Private IRC line?
395<ErrantVagrant> Far cheaper.
396<cukier> Public IRC line?
397<Rhetorical> My instructor is Turkish. Should this affect my country of choice for my claim?
398<ErrantVagrant> Slightly more embarrassing as I ask for inane clarifications about unrelated things.
399<ErrantVagrant> Hmmm...  Turkish does change things a bit.
400<ErrantVagrant> An alternative is to loudly complain that this coffee doesn't let you see sound, and is therefore inferior.
401<Rhetorical> Hmm
402<ErrantVagrant> (Turkish coffee is awesome)
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404<Rhetorical> Indeed
405<Rhetorical> So I have heard
406<Rhetorical> Far superior to this Starbucks I hold in my hand
407<ErrantVagrant> After class, ask your teacher what you'd have to bribe them for real coffee.
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409<ErrantVagrant> Offer the souls of your classmates.
410<Rhetorical> They're computer science majors
411<Rhetorical> They already have no souls
412<Bruticus> Ehhhh
413<lankhmar> just ask them the best place in wherever you are for real coffee
414<Rhetorical> Isn't that racist, though?
415<howl> Nobody has no souls!
416<cukier> They have Dark Souls.
417<ErrantVagrant> howl, you've never seen the IT department at the end of the day.
418<Bruticus> Probably 1 and 2
419<cukier> Yes.
420<ErrantVagrant> They're souless husks.
421<howl> I guess they do have Dark Souls
422<howl> some of them might even have Demons' Souls
423<ErrantVagrant> The look in their eyes as they realize they have to do it again tomorrow is harrowing.
424<howl> which I prefer because of how awkward it is to say
425<howl> my company's IT department are pretty chipper at the end of the day
426<ErrantVagrant> That's because they aren't human.
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430<cukier> Aaaaah!
431<cukier> It's so cold outside!
432<cukier> :<
433Materia-Blade (Materia-Bl@dlp-3408DCB5.mc.at.cox.net) joined the channel
434<Lacks> How cold is it?
435<Lacks> (I ask this, as a Canadian, for the opportunity to mock you for complaining about the cold)
436<Oz> IT'S COLD AS BALLS, LOUISE
437<cukier> I had to grab water from the balcony
438<cukier> and I had no pants on me
439<Bruticus> Well, cuk is Polish
440<Bruticus> It's pretty freakin' cold there
441<cukier> and I wasn't prepared for it
442Rhetorical is now known as Rhet|class
443• ErrantVagrant: jots that down in preparation for future advice
444<Rhet|class> "Pants are good"
445<cukier> and I live in the coldest part of Poland.
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447<Materia-Blade> I live!
448<ErrantVagrant> Liar!
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450<ErrantVagrant> I mean, hi!
451<cukier> Hi.
452<Materia-Blade> lulz
453<cukier> Pants are good.
454<cukier> You can add this to the quote bot or something.
455<cukier> My advice for everyone.
456<Chrono|> Whats the temps like?
457<lankhmar> brings to mind some advice I gave someone else once for something
458<cukier> 6°C
459<cukier> 279K
460<Materia-Blade> cukier: Huh? I totally disagree.
461<Chrono|> thats pretty pleasant
462<lankhmar> which involved using no-pants as an excuse to talk to people at the mall or something "Had you seen my pants anywhere? They look...well, like pants"
463<tubes> i reccomend chubbies
464<tubes> they're kind of like underwear, but publicly acceptable
465<PC|GM> Aww
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468<Bruticus> Hey Lacks, don't think I've talked to you about the latest Academia chapter
469<Bruticus> That teacher lineup was awesome
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472<Lacks> Agreed.
473<Lacks> Concrete dude is probably my favorite, for some reason.
474<ErrantVagrant> They're like a dress, but enclose each leg individually.
475<Bruticus> He seems calm
476<Lacks> Indeed!
477<Bruticus> I like Present Mic
478<Lacks> Plus concrete-o-mancy is an awesome power.
479<Bruticus> Excited to see his power
480<Lacks> He does have a distinct design, it's true.
481<Oz> I just realised what was so odd about chrome today...
482<Oz> I opened firefox
483<Bruticus> Reminds me of Gladius, a bit, my favourite Dofla Family member
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485• PC|GM: throws her sceptre at the Firefox application
486<Oz> :c
487<PC|GM> Grrr....
488<Lacks> Also the fact that grapes got ninth position on the test was hilarious to me.
489<Materia-Blade> Stop yourspoilers!?!
490<Materia-Blade> Wagggh
491<PC|GM> What test?
492• Materia-Blade: scrolls up
493<Bruticus> Grapes is hilarious
494<Bruticus> And electric guy getting last, think we all saw that coming
495<Lacks> Yep!
496<Bruticus> I'm sure I'll remember their superhero names, but I'll never remember all their real names
497<Lacks> Same.
498<Lacks> I have zero chance.
499<Lacks> Thus, the nicknames.
500<Lacks> Like frog!
501<Lacks> You know, the highly memorable character, frog!
502<Bruticus> Hey, Frog is cool
503<cukier> Hello Frog.
504<Lacks> I do like Frog.
505<Lacks> Frog has been pretty good so far.
506<Bruticus> Sound Jack girl is the best, though
507<Bruticus> Personal pref
508<PC|GM> My fourteen year old sister started reading Worm.
509<Lacks> She's been getting some spotlight recently, yeah.
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511<PC|GM> Not sure how I feel about that, I mean I read it when I was younger than she is.
512<Lacks> I don't have any really stand-out favorites, though, I don't think.
513<Lacks> Except concrete dude.
514<Bruticus> Nah, it'll take some development
515<Lacks> Worried about your sister's suffering, PC?
516<Bruticus> I'm hoping they'll all get their turns soon enough
517<Lacks> Same.
518<Lacks> It's a fun cast.
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520<Bruticus> Why do you like concrete guy? You relate to his disposition, or just like his powers?
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522<Lacks> His power is pretty awesome, but I just like his design.
523<Lacks> I mean, his head is a rectangle, and his eyes are right at the top of his head.
524<Lacks> It amuses me.
525<Lacks> But really it's mostly his power.
526<Bruticus> http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bokunoheroacademia/images/d/de/Cement.png/revision/latest?cb=20141217032522
527<Lacks> Also, his costume is like, just a black jumpsuit.
528<Bruticus> Looks pretty stoned
529<Bruticus> Ehhhhh
530• JENTHULHU: sends Tenno after Bruticus
531• PC|GM: materializes a ball of fire to defend Tenno, before teleporting away
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536• lankhmar: burns a fire to consume all the oxygen, leave Tenno defenseless and suffocate them
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538• Luminifera: returns from her slumber
539<Luminifera> Not an actual slumber.
540<Luminifera> I was just taking a shower.
541<PC|GM> God my last line in WDCharlotte was great....
542• ErrantVagrant: squeaks a finger against Lumi
543<ErrantVagrant> Yup, clean.
544<ErrantVagrant> XD
545<PC|GM> http://pastebin.com/CjVwC7Zt
546<cukier> Lumi was sleeping in the shower.
547<cukier> Good thing you didn't drown.
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552<PC|GM> Ollie you just tried to kill someone!
553<PC|GM> Olivebirdy / Terrarium is a murderer/hero :)
554<cukier> Does he have a soul?
555<PC|GM> Sort of
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557<PC|GM> Jem Jem!
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560<cukier> Goodnight everyone.
561<cukier> <3
562<Luminifera> night, cuki!
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564<PC|GM> Night Cuki!
565<ErrantVagrant> Night cuki
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574<ErrantVagrant> Hey Panda!
575<Panda> Hey Eve!
576<Benguin> Hm
577<Benguin> I need writing advice, in terms of "how will this paragraph be taken?" any biters?
578<Benguin> I'm helping a friend structure his personal statement for university appliclatiotns
579<Benguin> applications*
580<Panda> Aye.
581<Panda> Wait
582<Benguin> "One other thing that really pushes me towards the direction of obtaining a university education is that nobody in my immediate family has done so before; I’d be the first."
583<Panda> On a scale of 1 to 10, how dry is it?
584<Panda> If it's higher than 5, pass. I might cry.
585<Panda> Yeah that's a run on sentence
586<Benguin> I don't want him to sound like he's trying to score points
587<Benguin> aside from whether it's a run on or not, what do you think?
588<Luminifera> I think it's fine to say something like that
589<Panda> For personal reasons, being the first person from my family to get higher education is a major drive for me.
590<Panda> Something like that.
591<Luminifera> oh
592<Panda> It's an unwieldy sentence as is.
593<Benguin> isn't that a little...
594<Luminifera> I like pandas version better.
595<Panda> Restructure and condense while keeping the core.
596<Benguin> withhold-y?
597<Benguin> 'for personal reasons..'
598<Panda> Take it out
599<Luminifera> yeah
600<Panda> Doesn't matter, it's a more malleable sentence
601<Luminifera> just leave the being... for me part
602<Panda> I was providing an example
603<Benguin> Keep in mind this is more or less a whole paragraph, as the last section that would be about /why/ he wants to go to uni/take CS
604<Panda> Blah blah blah relevant intro to sentence, being the first person-
605<Panda> Something like that that doesn't drag on.
606<Benguin> unless I merge the paragraph with something else
607<Panda> On an unrelated note, I just came from my first philosophy club meeting.
608<Panda> Hnnng.
609<Panda> Good shit.
610<Benguin> heh
611<Benguin> nice
612Rhet|class is now known as Rhetorical
613<Benguin> Hmm did I make it somehow worse? http://i.imgur.com/pTNhvWS.png
614<Benguin> new version is above
615<Benguin> old version below.
616<Benguin> should remove "because of this" probably
617<Rhetorical> What's this for, Ben?
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619<Benguin> Helping a friend write their personal statement.
620<Rhetorical> Hmm
621<howl> What's the university's objective? Are they trying to filter out people who won't stay for the full course?
622<Rhetorical> I'll take a look as soon as I get back to my dorm room
623<Benguin> it's just a personal statement. The single thing about you that can make you stick out from the other students (aside from have 6 A-levels at a* or some shit)
624<Benguin> The same statement is used for all universities
625<Benguin> (by mandate)
626<Panda> "Look, fuck this shit. Let me in and I'll get you all the finest Columbian cocaine. Think about it."
627<Luminifera> https://youtu.be/c8Ag3_v67N0
628<Luminifera> please watch
629<Panda> ^Sticks out.
630<Rhetorical> I wrote something similar in my personal statement
631<Rhetorical> Except about my dad being the first in his family and following in his footsteps, etc.
632<Lacks> This doesn't seem like a very interesting video, Lumi.
633<ErrantVagrant> Oh, I love these videos!
634<howl> I suppose the bit about being the first in their family to go to uni implies that they'll use that as motivation, and therefore are unusually motivated to work hard.
635• Panda: drools
636<Panda> There's a girl passing through the cafeteria who looks like Luna Lovegood, right?
637<Panda> And she's wearing these tights in the best possible way.
638<Rhetorical> Heh
639<Panda> dios mio
640• Panda: cries a lil
641<Rhetorical> Like Evana Lynch, you mean?
642<Panda> Yes
643<Panda> Forgot her name
644• Panda: highfives
645<Rhetorical> Nicr
646<Lacks> Man, it's like they chose the lamest candy to get a negative reaction, or something.
647<Rhetorical> Nice*
648<ErrantVagrant> Hehe, endoscopy pipe?  Haha!
649<Rhetorical> Had a bit of a crush on her...
650<Rhetorical> Her and Bonnie Wright
651<Benguin> I liked this part though "That isn’t the only reason though; part of my passion for computer science is about exploring my curiosity. Every new piece of software is something new to break, fix, and break again. I have something of a explorative learning style."
652<Panda> You have good taste in girl crushes, Rhet.
653<Panda> But they all seem to be a bit unhinged.
654• Panda: glances at Lumi
655• Panda: says nothing
656<Benguin> I originally wrote ('cause this isn't /his/ personal statement it's what I'd write if I were him, and he's going to wreck it afterwards to be his,) "destructive" learning style but w/e
657<Rhetorical> Dem gingers
658<Panda> lawl
659<Rhetorical> And Lumi
660<Panda> hahaha
661<Rhetorical> Seriously, like 90% of my crushes have been gingers
662<Panda> I've had a single ginger crush, who I then dated, so I don't understand this.
663<Luminifera> :/
664• Luminifera: was born with bright red hair
665<Panda> I'm 90% sure I dated the only attractive ginger in the South USA
666<Rhetorical> :/
667• Panda: smiles innocently
668<ErrantVagrant> HA!
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670<Luminifera> Wow panda
671<Luminifera> :o
672<Luminifera> I highly doubt ir
673<Rhetorical> ^
674<Rhetorical> ^^
675<Luminifera> panda hates them gingers
676<Rhetorical> I have a counter-example
677<Luminifera> rhet has a hot ginger neighbor
678<Panda> Not hate
679<Panda> I just don't see that many attractive ones where I'm at
680<Rhetorical> Alas, she has spurned me
681<Panda> Nothing against the poor homely people
682<Rhetorical> I do?
683<Panda> ha
684<Rhetorical> That was I was like, 6
685<Rhetorical> *was when I
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689<Luminifera> sure rhet... you tell yourself that... ;)
690<Rhetorical> Erm
691<Rhetorical> I mean, I'm pretty sure none of my neighbors now are ginger
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693<Shem_Phone> Morning!
694<Rhetorical> Afternoon
695<Rhetorical> :P
696<ErrantVagrant> Thing!
697<Rhetorical> Stuff!
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700<%JENTHULHU> beware
701<Rhetorical> Hmm?
702<%JENTHULHU> the end times are nigh
703<%JENTHULHU> ours is deserved damnation
704<Rhetorical> rip
705<%JENTHULHU> oddly enough
706<%JENTHULHU> no one calls me out on the reference of the quote
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709<Teller> The last part strikes me as being from a poem, but not the other line(s).
710• Teller: probably does not know the reference.
711<%JENTHULHU> Neverwinter Nights
712<%JENTHULHU> it is one of the city background track voices
713<%JENTHULHU> during the plague
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717• JENTHULHU: gives Teller a box of raisin brahms
718• Teller: examines the box curiously.
719<%JENTHULHU> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOsbyuLyPbE
720<Teller> Ah, danke.
721<Teller> It feels odd to say 'danke' even with the context of raisin brahms.
722• Teller: cleanses keyboard.
723<soulpelt|> Heh
724<Luminifera> Hello Shem!
725• JENTHULHU: examines Luminifera
726• Luminifera: stands still while being exanjd
727<Luminifera> examined.
728<Pink2> I just learned that 'Frobenius endomorphism' is a thing.
729<%JENTHULHU> mmm?
730<Pink2> Quiet, chancellor.
731• JENTHULHU: pokes Luminifera's inflation plug
732<Shem_Phone> Hi Fera!
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734<Shem_Phone> Watching a Japanese soap opera right now
735<ErrantVagrant> ...
736<Shem_Phone> It's about a young girl in kimono and lots of angry or excited men
737<Bruticus> Are you just extrapolating from the visuals?
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739<Shem_Phone> Yes
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742ChanServ sets mode +o Clarvel
743• Clarvel: blors
744<@Clarvel> !
745<Shem_Phone> Hi larvae
746<@Clarvel>  /larvae/!?
747<Shem_Phone> *larvae*
748• Luminifera: inflates
749<Luminifera> larvae HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
750<Shem_Phone> New Twig when
751• Clarvel: deflates Luminifera
752<@Wildbow>  4.5 hours, Shem
753• Clarvel: ingflates Luminifera with mild aphrodesiac
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755• Rhetorical: sidles up to Lumi
756<Shem_Phone> Yay!
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758• Rhetorical: dances a traditional Irish jig
759<Rhetorical> Speaking of, where's Twonk been?
760<ErrantVagrant> O_O
761<ErrantVagrant> what the bzrglms
762<Rhetorical> Ayy
763<throwaawy> (08:07:01) JENTHULHU2: How is throwaawy <--- swamped in classwork and procrastinating like a boss
764<@Clarvel> hah
765<@Clarvel> I something due in a week
766<@Clarvel> http://orig06.deviantart.net/6e54/f/2010/092/1/5/pokemon_fail_by_kimimaro100040.jpg
767<Shem_Phone> The D&D aerryi drawing is new?
768<Bruticus> http://outsiderjapan.pbworks.com/f/1202784606/Sd_helmeppo.jpg Clar
769<Bruticus> What even is that? Some crazy tinkertech?
770<@Clarvel> what is this, a picture for ants?
771<Bruticus> Looks fine on mine
772<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: it is the face OF CENSORSHIP
773Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
774<Benguin[ZzZ]> o/
775<@Clarvel> ...why did the guys' suit change color?
776<%JENTHULHU> dunno
777<Bruticus> The 4kids version also had some terrible filter on it
778<Bruticus> Made it ugly as hell
779<Rhetorical> Ayy
780<Rhetorical> My Rocket League win percentage is over 50%
781<Rhetorical> 51.4%, to be exact
782<Luminifera> wow
783<Luminifera> congrats on winning half the time
784<Rhetorical> :P
785<Luminifera> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geFj_kMvasQ
786<Luminifera> here, have some magic tang
787<%JENTHULHU> Megalovania
788<Luminifera> no
789<Luminifera> Not vriska
790• Rhetorical: pokes Lumi
791<%JENTHULHU> Vriska best troll via tie with Terezi
792<Luminifera> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvq7R9dwJ3U
793<Luminifera> Me as a doctor
794<Luminifera> Jen hell yes I agree so much
795<ErrantVagrant> ...Are those gatoraid bottles?
796<Luminifera> :D
797• JENTHULHU: gives ErrantVagrant a bitching beard and mustache
798<@Clarvel> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitching
799• Clarvel: magines a beard and mustache complaining in a californian valley-girl's voice
800<Rhetorical> "Oh my ga-awd"
801<@Clarvel> "could we /be/ any more scraggly?"
802<Lacks> I am now watching The Dark Crystal.
803<@Clarvel> "At least we aren't pubic hair, poor thing"
804<@Clarvel> TDC?
805<ErrantVagrant> Man, I would kill for bitchin' facial hair.
806<Bruticus> The Dark Crystal, classic
807• ErrantVagrant: struts in my suit and vest
808<Bruticus> Skeksis man
809<Lacks> Found it on Blu Ray today for $5
810<Bruticus> Mmmmmmmm
811<Rhetorical> Like, totally
812<Bruticus> "I hate your whimper."
813<Lacks> :D
814<%JENTHULHU> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
815<Rhetorical> I think I will eat, now
816<Rhetorical> o/
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819<Rhet|food> Ayy Panda
820<Bruticus> Bacon, sausage, and mushroom poutine
821<Bruticus> I am become death
822<Rhet|food> Nice
823<Lacks> The destroyer of health?
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825<ErrantVagrant> Bruticus, I hate you.
826<@Wildbow> What's unhealthy about that?
827<ErrantVagrant> With all of my heart and all of my soul, I hate you.
828<ErrantVagrant> I will destroy you but not until after destroying all you love.
829<ErrantVagrant> I want that.  :(
830<@Wildbow> Also, poutine is great, for like, 2 minutes
831<@Wildbow> and then it becomes a soggy mess.
832<ErrantVagrant> If it's a tasty soggy mess, I am okay with this.
833<@Wildbow> Gets cold fast.
834<ErrantVagrant> ftp me some
835<Lacks> What's unhealthy about it, and this is personal experience, is having it three times a day for a year.
836<Lacks> Bit of an edge case, I'll admit, but still.
837<Bruticus> Doesn't help I live down the road from a place with 100 kinds
838<Lacks> Haha
839<Bruticus> I restrict myself to one every 2 weeks.
840<Lacks> How awful/awesome.
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847<Pink|Oubliette> It had mushrooms, it is healthy
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850<Luminifera> me trying really hard to draw something https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zh6uQZMD/IMG_20150928_215344.jpg
851<Luminifera> OH FUCK BOW IS ON
852<Luminifera> he's going to utterly destroy me
853<Luminifera> anyone know how to take pictures out of the internet? :(
854<Luminifera> "how to delete message sent on irc" google search
855<@Glernaj> ahahahahah
856<@Glernaj> that's adorable
857<@Glernaj> you think you can permanently delete things!
858<Teller> What? Bow'll hang it on his fridge, Lumi.
859<@Wildbow> Poor Lillian, not getting any screentime.
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861<@Wildbow> You should ink that shit, Lumpi.  Scan it and convert it to a proper image.  Is good.
862<@Wildbow> When I first glanced at it, I thought the text in the background was wallpaper.
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864<ErrantVagrant> Actually, that's kind of a cool effect, now that you mention it.
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867<@Clarvel> did I miss anything?
868<@Glernaj> did you see lumi's art?
869<@Clarvel> [19:59] Clarvel: do et lumpi
870<@Clarvel> was last msg
871<@Clarvel> also: got synoid simulor!
872<@Clarvel> also met a fan
873<@Glernaj>  so before I even joined then
874<ErrantVagrant> Lumi's pic:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zh6uQZMD/IMG_20150928_215344.jpg
875<@Glernaj> oh, someone liked your thingy?
876<@Clarvel> yes
877<@Wildbow> Wildbow did.  For what little it counts.
878<@Glernaj> Is that where you got the synoid simulor? :P
879<@Clarvel> some want to pay me to make more
880<@Clarvel> also yes, but that was a trade
881<@Glernaj> (I totally can't remember what it's called)
882<@Wildbow> Met a fan?
883<@Glernaj> (So I'm calling it a thingy)
884<@Glernaj> Wilbur, Clarvel made a real model of an ingame thingy in Warframe
885<@Clarvel> made some 3D statues from a game people like to play
886<@Glernaj> and sent it to the company that makes the game and posted pictures
887<@Glernaj> And it looks awesome
888<@Glernaj> And people now want to pay him to make more!
889<@Wildbow> Oh, I saw the pictures when he was worrying about it getting stopped at the border.
890<@Clarvel> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/533178-making-of-the-orokitty/
891<@Glernaj> Which leads to fun copyright issues!
892<@Clarvel> ^
893<@Clarvel> which I dun wanna deal with
894<@Clarvel> asked rebecca, she said they're not giving liscences for this type of merchandise
895<@Clarvel> which is 100% understandable
896<@Clarvel> so replicating/selling the design is illegal
897<@Clarvel> unfortunately
898<@Wildbow> That's too bad
899<@Clarvel> I wasnt /planing/ on making money with this
900<@Clarvel> but I've gotten a few pms asking for one, and when I say no they tell me it's like commissioning fanart
901<@Clarvel> which is just not true
902<@Wildbow> Commissioning fanart is questionable, actually.
903<@Clarvel> it is, but it's tolerated because of reasons
904<@Glernaj> Yeaaaah
905<@Clarvel> usually because the fallout of suing a fan/artist is just not worth
906<Lacks> Partly I imagine it's tolerated because you can't really stop it.
907<@Glernaj> It's a messy grey area, and since you like DE, it's not worth stepping on their toes.
908<@Clarvel> ^^^^
909<@Glernaj> I would also say the same if anyone asks you for the design pattern you made for the 3d printer
910<@Wildbow> Do you own the character in question?      Yes? Do what you please!      No? You have no legal right to profit from work featuring characters without permission from copyright holder.      No? You have almost no rights to create such works not for a profit, either.
911<@Clarvel> even if I didn't like DE I wouldnt want the potential for legal action against me
912<@Glernaj> (I assume that that file has a specific format of some type, but I don't know what it is)
913<@Clarvel> the 3D file?
914<@Glernaj> I assume so?
915<@Clarvel> I actually made it on a cloud service, so I export it as certain filetypes
916<@Clarvel> namely stl
917<@Glernaj> right
918<@Clarvel> for makerbot
919<@Glernaj> if anyone asks for that file, I would tell them no.
920<@Clarvel> see: not allowed to replicate
921<@Glernaj> yup
922<@Clarvel> idea: DE should hire me to make more
923<@Clarvel> :3
924<@Glernaj> Are you looking for a job in 3d design?
925<@Clarvel> AI/robotics, but am flexible
926<@Clarvel> half my classes atm are computer graphics oriented, and I've dabbled in 3D printing, building robots, woodworking
927<@Clarvel> if you need soemthing ~ human sized or smaller made I can probably do so without too much trouble
928<@Glernaj> ...
929<@Clarvel> depends what it is thugh
930<Tene> Clarvel: jetpack?
931<@Glernaj> My mind went some very troubling places with that statement.
932<@Clarvel> tene: what kind?
933<@Glernaj> FUNCTIONAL!
934<@Clarvel> rocket fuel I'd be worried about leglity of ownership
935<@Clarvel> there's a water powered one
936<@Clarvel> I think
937<Rhetorical> Yup
938<Rhetorical> I wonder if you could do prop-driven
939<@Clarvel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1iNq02Kz0
940<Rhetorical> Like a quadcopter
941<@Clarvel> that's fairly dengerous depending on rotor placement
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943<@Clarvel> so yeah for that I'd probably buy a motorboat motor, juryrig the motor controls to one of the arm bars, and setup piping to properly direct the flow
944<@Glernaj> hmmm
945<Rhetorical> Probably have to be more of a hoverboard
946<@Clarvel> that actually looks really smal, I wonder where the engine/energy storage is
947<@Glernaj> on the boat I assume
948<Rhetorical> I think there's a (gas-powered?) pump floating below
949<@Clarvel> wonder if I can put motor and battery in a pod connected to the hose
950<@Glernaj> or is that self-contained?
951<@Clarvel> I thought it was at first
952<@Clarvel> but now am unsire
953<@Clarvel> it looked like just piping on his back
954<@Glernaj> nah
955<@Glernaj> 1:33
956<%JENTHULHU> what should I name my undertale chara
957<@Glernaj> there's a towed unit
958<@Glernaj> it's just hidden in the wake for the most part
959<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: fetish
960<%JENTHULHU> first, that's kinda... wrong
961<@Clarvel> gler: yeah that makes sense
962<%JENTHULHU> second, too many letters I think
963<@Clarvel> aw
964<%JENTHULHU> wait, no, it can have 6 letters
965<%JENTHULHU> but still
966<%JENTHULHU> not Fetish
967<@Glernaj> it's white, so it blends in with the wake
968<@Clarvel> why limit it to 6
969<%JENTHULHU> 6 is the character limit
970<Rhetorical> Only $99k
971<Rhetorical> Not bad
972<%JENTHULHU> in the game
973<@Clarvel> why is that the limit
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975<@Glernaj> looks about the size of a jetski
976<@Clarvel> makes no sense
977<@Glernaj> probably built out of one
978<@Wildbow> Undertale is faux retro
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980<@Wildbow> Postmodern retro?
981<@Wildbow> So it harkens back to the era of limited options there.
982<@Glernaj> Clarvel, I don't think you'd be able to go with a normal outboard motor
983<@Clarvel> what about Choice
984<@Glernaj> something more like a jet ski uses probably
985<@Clarvel> ah
986<@Glernaj> (I'm putting too much thought into this, aren't I?)
987<@Clarvel> jus a lil
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990<@Clarvel> 2min ago convo changed to jen's perdicament
991<@Glernaj> Yeah, but I don't care about undertale!
992<@Glernaj> I care about water jetpacks!
993<%JENTHULHU> well /too bad.
994<%JENTHULHU> start giving name suggestions
995<Teller> JEN, I need details.
996<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: Choice
997<@Glernaj> Doctor?
998<Teller> Who is this person that requires a name?
999<@Clarvel> Regret
1000<@Glernaj> (My mind is in a Doctor Who space atm)
1001<@Clarvel> Sadnes
1002<Teller> Regret is a mean name for a child.
1003<@Glernaj> Sorrow
1004<@Glernaj> Hatred
1005<@Clarvel> Vegan
1006<@Wildbow> Morsel
1007<@Clarvel> (for a pacifist run)
1008<%JENTHULHU> well
1009<@Glernaj> PreDed
1010<%JENTHULHU> I have a name for a kill 'em all run ready, a perfect name for a murderous unrepentant psycho
1011<@Glernaj> Dexter?
1012<%JENTHULHU> Laird
1013<@Glernaj> He really didn't strike me as "muderous unrepentant psycho" personally
1014<%JENTHULHU> no
1015<@Clarvel> Dexter was great
1016<%JENTHULHU> but he's a monster that deserves to be reviled
1017<@Glernaj> He didn't even really strike me as a monster.
1018<@Glernaj> He was driven, yes
1019<@Glernaj> Monstrous? I'm not so sure.
1020<%JENTHULHU> he is literally unforgivable in my book
1021• Teller: does not even know if this character is male or female.
1022<@Glernaj> For what?
1023<@Glernaj> Male Teller
1024<@Glernaj> From Pact.
1025<%JENTHULHU> basically.... every interaction with the main chara
1026<@Glernaj> Antagonist for the first part of the story.
1027<Teller> I know who Laird is.
1028<Teller> I do not know who JEN's nameless character is.
1029<%JENTHULHU> the Undertale chara is intentionally gender neutral
1030<%JENTHULHU> could be either
1031<Teller> What do we know about them?
1032<%JENTHULHU> they are a blank slate kid who fell in a hole into the monster realm
1033<%JENTHULHU> this run will attempt to be pacifist
1034<Teller> Ah.
1035<%JENTHULHU> and there aren't enough spaces to name the Paarthurnax
1036<@Wildbow> @ Jenthulhu: Laird?
1037<Teller> You should call the murder run version 'Fell'.
1038<@Wildbow> You can be reminded of Laird every time the name comes up.
1039<%JENTHULHU> 'bow, if Laird Behaim were a real live person, I would kill them without reservation
1040<@Glernaj> I'm... pretty sure Laird Behaim is many real people.
1041<%JENTHULHU> if Pact's Laird Behaim
1042<%JENTHULHU> to be picky
1043<@Glernaj> Yes, I know.
1044<PC|GM> NaahhhhNaaahhhhNAaaahhh
1045<@Glernaj> I don't mean the name.
1046<@Glernaj> I mean the character, excluding the obvious time magic and whatnot.
1047<@Glernaj> But the personality?
1048<@Glernaj> Not super uncommon I don't think.
1049• JENTHULHU: starts feeding Glernaj eclairs
1050<%JENTHULHU> "Friendliness Pellets"
1051<PC|GM> Jenny you're quite the serial killer, aren't you.
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1053<%JENTHULHU> PC|GM: huh?
1054<PC|GM> 'Cause.
1055<PC|GM> Cuz*
1056<@Clarvel> A: yes
1057<@Clarvel> B: how has it taken u so long to catch onto this
1058• JENTHULHU: pushes Clarvel back in the box
1059• Clarvel: oozes around jen's grasping tentacles! FREEEEDMMM!!!!
1060<@Clarvel> brb
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1062• JENTHULHU: gives PC|GM many 'Friendliness Pellets'
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1064<Rhetorical> http://i.imgur.com/xlxXq.gif
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1066<%JENTHULHU> "Did you miss it?  Spider Bakesale down and to the right.  Come eat food made by spiders, for spiders, of spiders!"
1067<Quanfinigon> so... the whomping willow is a cat?
1068<Rhetorical> Exactly
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1070<Pink|Oubliette> Poor toriel
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1072• JENTHULHU: gives Pink|Oubliette butterscotch-cinnamon pie
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1075<@Clarvel> FREEEEDOMMMMM
1076<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krT0I/e4ac90a6df.png
1077<%JENTHULHU> *Clarvel is back in the box*
1078<@Clarvel> D:
1079<Teruzi> what's    that?
1080• Clarvel: oozes, making the cardboard soggy and easily breakable and escapes!
1081<@Clarvel> it's a cool fuckup
1082<@Clarvel> I colect them
1083<@Clarvel> 1/?
1084<Teruzi> I see?
1085<Teruzi> um, from where?
1086<@Clarvel> a thing I'm making
1087<Teruzi> what thing
1088<Teruzi> is it pixel art
1089<Teruzi> is it a game
1090<Teruzi> Clarvel are you making a game
1091<@Clarvel> graphics engine
1092<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/kjiaE/302edc9662.png
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1094<Teruzi> oh hey
1095<Teruzi> neat
1096• ErrantVagrant: still digs his bitchin' stache and beard
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1100• Rhetorical: yawns
1101<Nada> The log lady died!
1102• Nada: frowns.
1103<Teruzi> we hardly knew her?
1104<Rhetorical> Johnny?
1105<Rhetorical> Or did you know him?
1106<Rhetorical> (Alas)
1107<ErrantVagrant> ...wat
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1109<Rhetorical> I'm mixing my references
1110<Rhetorical> The second was sort of Hamlet
1111<Rhetorical> The first was Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya
1112<ErrantVagrant> Alas, poor Bob.  He did... Bob... things...
1113Thaliaway is now known as Thalia
1114<Nada> The log lady from Twin Peaks.
1115<Nada> She was seventy-one, but still.
1116<Teruzi> that vaguely sounds like spoilers
1117<ErrantVagrant> Oh, man...  She was awesome.
1118<Nada> I was watching Twin Peaks last week.
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1121<Teruzi> oh wait she died in real life?
1122<Teruzi> well, that makes a lot more sense
1123<Nada> Yeah.
1124<Nada> Instead of Windom Earle pretending to be her being generally nefarious.
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1129<Silent_Oracle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscOE4sSYOo
1130<Rhetorical> D:
1131<Rhetorical> ;_;
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1134<Chrono|Ill> oh that sorta looks
1135Chrono|Ill is now known as Chrono|Sick
1136<Chrono|Sick> better
1137<Rhetorical> ChornoII1ll1I!Ill
1138<Chrono|Sick> dont
1139<Chrono|Sick> i physically hurt looking at that
1140<Teruzi> hey, Chrono
1141<Teruzi> you ok?
1142<Chrono|Sick> sick
1143<Rhetorical> Hmm
1144• ErrantVagrant: gets chicken soup STAT
1145<Rhetorical> I've been invited to a Halloween party
1146<Teruzi> neat
1147<Teruzi> go as woody
1148<Rhetorical> I'm supposed to feel free to bring a friend
1149• Teruzi: waggles eyebrows
1150<Rhetorical> I have no friends
1151<Rhetorical> What do?
1152<Teruzi> whatchu got Chrono?
1153<Teruzi> well Rhet
1154<Chrono|Sick> hire an escort
1155<Teruzi> easy asnwer
1156<Chrono|Sick> headcold
1157<Teruzi> get a date
1158<Teruzi> duh
1159<Rhetorical> Hire an escort
1160<Rhetorical> To attend my friends Halloween party
1161<Chrono|Sick> got the seepy nose, weepy eyes & sore throat deal
1162<Rhetorical> My friend
1163<Thalia> I don't answer Rhetorical questions
1164<Rhetorical> that I know from church
1165<Rhetorical> :
1166<Rhetorical> |
1167<@Glernaj> Do it.
1168<Silent_Oracle> lol
1169<Rhetorical> Thalia pls
1170<Silent_Oracle> awkward
1171<Teruzi> literally
1172<Teruzi> the best idea
1173<ErrantVagrant> Rhet: Invite me!
1174<Teruzi> do it Rhet
1175<Teruzi> be subversive
1176<ErrantVagrant> Let me get the entrails.
1177<Silent_Oracle> wait
1178<Silent_Oracle> when's halloween?
1179<Silent_Oracle> what month is this?
1180<Chrono|Sick> like 32 days from now
1181<Rhetorical> October 31
1182<Rhetorical> The party is the 17th, though
1183<@Glernaj> Do you not have any other friends to bring with you Rhet? Or for that matter, do you even feel the need to bring one?
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1186<Rhetorical> Not really
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1188<Rhetorical> I think it's back in Bastrop
1189<@Glernaj> To which question?
1190<Rhetorical> Both
1191<@Glernaj> Gotcha
1192<Thalia> Rhetorical, bring one of us on Skype video chat.
1193<@Glernaj> Thalia, there's a few of us that are actually close enough to show up in person.
1194<Thalia> Even better!
1195<ErrantVagrant> I am thankful that I never have to worry about any of you doing that.
1196<Rhetorical> Heh
1197<@Glernaj> So Rhet, we're talking open bar, right? :P
1198<Rhetorical> Um
1199<Rhetorical> Church party
1200<Chrono|Sick> There are a few groups of us
1201<Silent_Oracle> oh god
1202<@Glernaj> ...
1203<Rhetorical> So....
1204<Rhetorical> Yeah
1205<Teruzi> OH MAn
1206<@Glernaj> so... wine?
1207<Teruzi> invite meeee
1208<Chrono|Sick> The Canadians (Wilbur, Brute and myself)
1209<Teruzi> I'm great at parties
1210<Teruzi> I swear
1211<Chrono|Sick> The Deep South (Anti's clan)
1212<Rhetorical> Tuzi would be a perfect date for me
1213<ErrantVagrant> ...
1214<ErrantVagrant> When you say that Teruzi
1215<Teruzi> I really would
1216<Teruzi> I'm a perfect date to most everyone though
1217<Chrono|Sick> And then the line of 'em that connect like nyc to texas
1218<Chrono|Sick> all along the coast
1219<Teruzi> so it's not really surprising
1220<Teruzi> :D
1221<ErrantVagrant> It makes me afraid.
1222<Rhetorical> Ooh, that's the day of the Alabama game
1223<Rhetorical> Hmm
1224<Teruzi> aw EV, I'm actually good at church parties!
1225<Teruzi> the old ladies love me
1226<Rhetorical> I fear the young ladies would be wasted on you, though
1227<ErrantVagrant> The way you say that only scares me more.
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1229<ErrantVagrant> Meanwhile, I would just dress up as Slenderman and stand in the corner, unmoving
1230<Teruzi> hardly
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1232<Teruzi> they would have fun as well
1233<Teruzi> but there's a small risk
1234<Teruzi> that I might waste the young men
1235<ErrantVagrant> Small risk.
1236<Chrono|Sick> tuzi
1237<Teruzi> yeah?
1238<Chrono|Sick> I don't know what I was gonna say
1239<Chrono|Sick> carry on
1240<Teruzi> ha ha
1241<Chrono|Sick> I fear my wits are slipping in my fever
1242<Teruzi> s'okay
1243<ErrantVagrant> To be fair, Teruzi has yet to be deported, therefore is still a viable choice.
1244<Teruzi> well I mean, I don't even live in the US
1245<Teruzi> hard for me to be deported
1246<Rhetorical> True
1247<Rhetorical> Don't underestimate Border Patrol, though
1248<Rhetorical> :P
1249<Chrono|Sick> GM for my new campaign is full of shit
1250<Teruzi> oh wow
1251<Rhetorical> Anyone I know?
1252<Xtree> you know how to pick em Chrono
1253<Teruzi> it's almost like a trend!
1254<Silent_Oracle> what happened?
1255<Chrono|Sick> no idea what any of the shop prices are; giving me disadvantage for the session's combat
1256<Chrono|Sick> hes never GM'd before, so I'm cutting a lot of slack but its still an issue
1257<Xtree> I know of very few GMs who have shop prices memorized
1258<Xtree> thats what the book is for
1259<Chrono|Sick> but when we had the book out
1260<Chrono|Sick> and go "Arrows are 20 for 1gp"
1261<keyonte0> Very balanced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUrxLgyvw0M
1262<Chrono|Sick> He goes "The guy is charging 200gp for 40 and a quiver"
1263<Teruzi> I see
1264<Silent_Oracle> that quiver is ridiculously awesome
1265<Silent_Oracle> that's the reason
1266<Teruzi> look Chrono as always
1267<Xtree> are you kidding
1268<Chrono|Sick> He gave us a flying carpet at third level
1269<Xtree> just rob him
1270<Teruzi> open communication is the key to a healthy (RP) relationship
1271<Xtree> he must be loaded
1272<Teruzi> ^
1273<Chrono|Sick> He gave me disadvantage all day for going "Okay, you gave the Ranger a Pseudodragon for her class levels, I don't have an issue with that"
1274<Chrono|Sick> "But when you say its a Familiar, that has fundamental, functional differences from an Animal Companion"
1275<Silent_Oracle> what does that mean, exactly?
1276<%JENTHULHU> "I'm thinking of getting a spiked collar to show off my personality.  It makes a statement like... 'Attach a leash to me and take me for a walk please.'"
1277<Xtree> it means "I hate you"
1278<@Mishie> Teruzi: ur a shit
1279<@Mishie> ;0
1280<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krXCS/3a5aa58764.png
1281<Chrono|Sick> Ranger went "Yo pseudodargons are super fuckin' cool can I have one for my Animal Compaion"
1282<@Clarvel> PROGRESSS
1283<Teruzi> Mishie is that why you slap my butt so hard
1284<@Mishie> ;)
1285<Teruzi> is it because I'm bad
1286<Chrono|Sick> DM goes "Yo yea sure"
1287<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: somehow I don't see that as you
1288<Chrono|Sick> I'm considering taking over and running Pathfinder
1289<Chrono|Sick> hostile takeover
1290<Xtree> thats a good agenda
1291<Chrono|Sick> Oh, and hes having players roll Persuasion against each other
1292<Chrono|Sick> instead of, you know
1293<Xtree> report back when you do it
1294<Rhetorical> :|
1295<Chrono|Sick> talking it out like reasonable human beings
1296<Rhetorical> Numbers > roleplaying
1297<Chrono|Sick> (or 1/2elfs or whatever)
1298<Teruzi> woow
1299<Mazin2> There's a point where you just lean forward on the table and go "Ok. What the fuck is your problem"
1300<Teruzi> speciest pirck
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1302<Teruzi> specist?
1303<@Clarvel> WHO WANTS TO SEE PURPLE HIGHLIGHTS
1304<Teruzi> speciesist?
1305<Teruzi> I do!
1306<Silent_Oracle> speciest
1307<Chrono|Sick> Is it when gm hands out a carpet that can fly
1308<Teruzi> alright, that
1309<Xtree> "roll to see if you agree with me"
1310<Teruzi> half-elfs are people too
1311<Xtree> hey flying carpets are awesome
1312<Chrono|Sick> and calls it a "Magic Carpet"
1313<Chrono|Sick> (it can fly)
1314<Chrono|Sick> and when someone goes "So a Flying Carpet" => "no"
1315<Chrono|Sick> "...Carpet of Flying, right. 5e."
1316<Chrono|Sick> "...No. Magic Carpet."
1317<@Clarvel> (one sec)
1318<Chrono|Sick> (It still only flies. Weighs 45lbs for some reason. Can only carry 400+self in weight)
1319<Xtree> heh I never name magic items
1320<Xtree> ever
1321<Xtree> as a GM I mean
1322<Chrono|Sick> mnhmn, same.
1323<Chrono|Sick> I describe effects, and the players usually whip up something good for it
1324<Xtree> as a player "oh yeah this is definitely a shovel of dwarfness"
1325<Teruzi> the true secret of GMing
1326<Teruzi> is getting the players to do all your work for you
1327<Xtree> yesss
1328<Chrono|Sick> the true secret of GMing
1329<Chrono|Sick> is winging the shit out of it
1330<Xtree> noooo
1331<Chrono|Sick> then taking nowhere near enough notes
1332<Xtree> that's not a secret at all
1333<Chrono|Sick> and finagling a world out of it
1334<Xtree> that's plan A
1335<Xtree> you can tell that's plan A by asking everyone what their name is
1336<Xtree> and then watch the GM sweat out a name
1337<Chrono|Sick> I'm pretty great with names, though.
1338<Silent_Oracle> that seems mean
1339<Xtree> its tradition
1340<Chrono|Sick> (And that doesn't work on text-based set-ups)
1341<Teruzi> I just go with vague things like
1342<Teruzi> "the dude with the sacar"
1343<Teruzi> *scar
1344<@Clarvel> Teruzi: http://puu.sh/krXXW/9497b936cc.png
1345• Chrono|Sick: points at Epoch
1346<@Clarvel> white was better
1347<Teruzi> "the first lady"
1348<Teruzi> alright, Clarv
1349<Xtree> "greetings noble lady, what is your name?"
1350<Chrono|Sick> "Lefty, Righty, Scar, Redhead, Brunette"
1351<Teruzi> at risk of looking idiotic
1352<Silent_Oracle> what're you running, clarvel?
1353<Teruzi> what am I looking at Clarv?
1354<Xtree> you're looking at a computer screen
1355<Teruzi> Well, you make them roll social then Xtree
1356<@Clarvel> "./ppm example.txt"
1357<Chrono|Sick> boobs
1358<Chrono|Sick> But yeah
1359<@Clarvel> you're looking at spheres
1360<Xtree> aw I hate rolling
1361<Teruzi> I didn't ask -at what-
1362<Teruzi> I'm asking what
1363<@Clarvel> that are lit by a light source
1364<Chrono|Sick> Persuasion whenever someone goes "The carpet isn't ours to take"
1365<Xtree> I hate rolling in combat
1366<Teruzi> oooh ok
1367<Chrono|Sick> So obviously, I've got 20 Cha, and am playing a Lore Bard.
1368<Chrono|Sick> +9 Persuasion @ 3rd level
1369<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krY39/1e38bbe2f4.png
1370<Xtree> too often do sessions devolve into whoever can roll the higher number rather than what is going on
1371<@Clarvel> is the input file
1372<Teruzi> I understand nothing
1373<Teruzi> but it looks neat!
1374<Teruzi> also it has shadows
1375<@Mishie> [13:09]    Teruzi  at risk of looking idiotic
1376<Teruzi> story of my life Mishie
1377<@Clarvel> Teruzi: for one of my classes we have to build a rendering engine
1378<Chrono|Sick> I'll probably have to do that at some point
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1380<@Clarvel> input a text file describing the scene, output an image of the scene
1381<Teruzi> cool
1382<Chrono|Sick> next few months, if not next year
1383<Chrono|Sick> (I'm in a Game Development program)
1384<@Clarvel> CSCI with focus on AI/Robotice
1385<@Clarvel> 'focus'
1386<@Clarvel> would have taken most of the classes anyway
1387<Teruzi> *swoons*
1388<Teruzi> not even joking
1389<@Clarvel> tuz
1390<Xtree> you had me at rendering engine
1391<Teruzi> :D
1392<@Clarvel> yer swooning over nerd cred
1393<Chrono|Sick> b/c we're all huge nerds in here
1394<Teruzi> I swoon over any cred baby
1395<Teruzi> I'm an equal opportunity swooner
1396<@Clarvel> pedo-cred
1397<Xtree> we were just discussing D&D like 5 minutes ago
1398<Chrono|Sick> okay but Collection cred it is best shit
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1400<Chrono|Sick> we were collectively bitching about Gregg, Dungeon Master of Lacking Ability.
1401<Teruzi> yeah, yeah
1402<Teruzi> lets go back on ripping the new GM
1403<Chrono|Sick> and his gross inability to accept critique from someone with more experience with the system
1404<Teruzi> literally first time GMing
1405<Teruzi> a new one
1406<Xtree> giving disadvantage for terrible reasons is pretty shit though
1407<Teruzi> and let us talk fondly of people that believe on overuling a GM
1408<Silent_Oracle> you give newbies a chance, I think
1409<Chrono|Sick> I cannot give a shit he uses active perception when he should have our passive
1410<Xtree> everything else is forgivable
1411<Silent_Oracle> o...kay?
1412<Teruzi> to be fair Chrono who even uses passive perception
1413<Chrono|Sick> I can't give a toss he modulates the AC of skelletons between rounds
1414<Xtree> thats just being a new GM though
1415<Teruzi> who even cares there's two types
1416<Silent_Oracle> some of us don't really know or care about what that is, chrono
1417<Teruzi> also if he's a new GM
1418<Teruzi> why in the flying fuck
1419<Teruzi> did you went with a half-dragon
1420<Chrono|Sick> Its when I go "Alright, but there is a proper way to do it"
1421<Teruzi> whatchamacallit?
1422<Chrono|Sick> and he punishes me for it
1423<Teruzi> couldn't run a simple dwarf
1424<Teruzi> nooooo
1425<Xtree> I had a zombie whose AC went up as parts of him got hacked off
1426<Chrono|Sick> I'm a 1/2 Elf Bard
1427<Teruzi> oh ok
1428<Chrono|Sick> 1) Thats fucking awesome
1429<Teruzi> and yeah, sounds pretty fun
1430<Teruzi> "need the edge in this fight"
1431<Teruzi> *hacks one arm off*
1432<Chrono|Sick> beat them with the arm
1433<Xtree> he was a biter anyway
1434<Chrono|Sick> knock his teef out
1435<Xtree> actually no, he would throw the littlest party members
1436<Xtree> grab n' chuck
1437<Chrono|Sick> yes good
1438<Chrono|Sick> The Good Ol' Hurl & Knurl
1439<Xtree> lots of GMs fuck up stats though
1440<Xtree> if I don't have that shit written down, and I don't ahve the page bookmarked in the MM, the AC defaults to 14 every time
1441<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, its inexperience.
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1443<Chrono|Sick> But when he is actively punishing my character for me as a person after the thing going "Familiars use a different system than Animal Companions"
1444<Silent_Oracle> are you sure that it's intentionally malicious?
1445<Xtree> it doesn't have to be intentional for it to be bad
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1447<Xtree> even an imagined vendetta is poisonous to the fun of the game
1448<Silent_Oracle> true
1449<Silent_Oracle> I'm just saying
1450<Silent_Oracle> not to go too far in the first session
1451<Silent_Oracle> talk about it
1452<Silent_Oracle> shit
1453<Silent_Oracle> I don't know
1454<Xtree> I mean it's a terrible reason for giving disadvantage, if that's the reason he gave
1455<Silent_Oracle> hug
1456<Chrono|Sick> We've had 3 sessions so far
1457<Silent_Oracle> okay, well I heard it was his first time so...
1458<Chrono|Sick> leveled up after the first, and halfway through the second
1459<Chrono|Sick> This Campaign is his first time
1460<Silent_Oracle> maybe try and talk to him about some of the thingsL
1461<Silent_Oracle> *?
1462<Xtree> thats a good idea
1463<Chrono|Sick> I don't want to come off as "Heres how to do a campaign" either
1464<Chrono|Sick> So I'll proably be low-key slipping in help when he asks, and every once & a while
1465<Chrono|Sick> since he seems so opposed for direct corrections
1466<Silent_Oracle> maybe talk to the other players
1467<Chrono|Sick> Only one other player has any experience
1468<Silent_Oracle> have you stated these corrections while the game is running?
1469<Chrono|Sick> Not mid-round, but we do 4 hour sessions, yeah.
1470<Teruzi> I dunno Chrono, I would let him do whatever
1471<Teruzi> then do as you said, offer help when he asks
1472<Silent_Oracle> it can't be fun to be told you're doing something wrong
1473<Teruzi> 'cause otherwise it sounds aggravating as fuck
1474<Silent_Oracle> in the middle of a session
1475<Teruzi> that you're GMing ofr first time and a player keeps telling you you're doing it wrong
1476<Chrono|Sick> I can see that, yeah
1477<Teruzi> it just seems really really annoying
1478<Teruzi> so like, offer help on the background
1479<Teruzi> and let them do whatever
1480<Teruzi> unless it's shit like 200g quivers or whatever
1481<Silent_Oracle> I told you
1482<Silent_Oracle> those are damn good quivers
1483<Silent_Oracle> :P
1484<Chrono|Sick> or 1500gp rings of Spell Storing (only 4 levels tho)
1485<Silent_Oracle> made of dragon leather or something
1486<Chrono|Sick> Went halfsies on that with the Sorcerer
1487<Chrono|Sick> They can hold 40 arrows!
1488<Chrono|Sick> (which is twice as many as the Ranger's current quiver. Apparently.)
1489<Chrono|Sick> And 4500GP for the Blacksmith to "Improve your armor by 1 AC"
1490<Xtree> o_o
1491<Silent_Oracle> whoa
1492<Chrono|Sick> And a Blood-Dagger that heals you by as much as you deal with it
1493<Chrono|Sick> that was out of the price range, don't recall exactly what
1494<Chrono|Sick> So as it stands, I'm trying to convince the Fighter (who grabbed the carpet) to sell it, get everyone enchanted armor & swords
1495<Chrono|Sick> Nearest one is slightly better at 35,000gp, so I'll try to sell it around 30,000
1496<Teruzi> I mean, I dunno
1497<Teruzi> do you need enchanted armor and swrods?
1498<Teruzi> *swords
1499<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, we're all using starter gear
1500<Teruzi> it sounds like the GM is trying to curb out that kind of things, while they get more familiar with this GMing
1501<Chrono|Sick> Actually, the Fighter just got a flamesword deal
1502<Teruzi> that the GM provided?
1503<Chrono|Sick> +1d4 fire, and +2 on Dmg
1504<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, bought it
1505<Teruzi> alright, so let the GM give you better equipment
1506<Teruzi> and unless you're going against a dragon with a quiver of uh
1507<Teruzi> 20 arrows
1508<Teruzi> don't worry too much about it
1509<Chrono|Sick> Hes been talking about dragons and tbh I'm afraid
1510<Teruzi> what's the story so far, anyways?
1511<Chrono|Sick> Met in a Bar Fight, 5Gnomes/Nobles/Elves/Dorfs showed up, nobles start shit, everyone else is dead/btfu
1512<Chrono|Sick> Party groups up, turns out it isn't a bar, actually guild-hall
1513<Teruzi> I ... see
1514<Chrono|Sick> Owner (Tilia) comes in yelling "Go do the thing! Kill the gobs harassing trade"
1515<Chrono|Sick> A contract is involved, we come back after a short trip (involving a "Stone of Returning")
1516<Teruzi> alright, standard RP shit so far
1517<Chrono|Sick> Get paid off, she asks us to deal with some undead in a house
1518<Teruzi> classic
1519<Chrono|Sick> Go up to house, "wtf is going on in here"
1520<Chrono|Sick> skellettes and a few ghouls burst through walls
1521<Chrono|Sick> slaughter ensues
1522<Teruzi> they're a goddamn plague I tell you
1523<Chrono|Sick> Party takes maybe 4 damage the whole time, come back
1524<Teruzi> ha ha
1525<Chrono|Sick> "Hey, go deal with bandits asking for protection money up in the city"
1526<Chrono|Sick> (before this we haven't been able to buy equipment"
1527<Chrono|Sick> whole party sets up, flies the fuck up there, kits up
1528<Chrono|Sick> end of session 3
1529<Teruzi> well you don't need equipment, silly
1530<Teruzi> you took 4 damage in total against a house full of baddies
1531<Teruzi> :|
1532<Chrono|Sick> 1/2 the party is greviously over-powered (Ranger, to an extent, Fighter & myself)
1533<Chrono|Sick> and 1/4 is entirely gimped
1534<Chrono|Sick> We did 4d6 drop lowest, and some got 12,18,16,14,14,20
1535<Chrono|Sick> some got 12,15,11,8,13,14
1536<Teruzi> ow
1537<Teruzi> that 20 tho
1538<Chrono|Sick> Rogue's Dex and my Charisma
1539<Teruzi> absolutely disgusting
1540<Chrono|Sick> correct
1541<Teruzi> and you want enchanted armor
1542<Teruzi> you greedy fuck
1543<Chrono|Sick> No I mean
1544<Xtree> 4d6 drop lowest oh god
1545<Chrono|Sick> Get /everyone/ armor
1546<Chrono|Sick> Because the monk is getting the shit stabbed out of himself, and the Cleric isn't having a good time either
1547<Xtree> you're gonna wreck everything with those stats
1548<Teruzi> ^
1549<Teruzi> if anything, the weaker members should be getting some love
1550<Chrono|Sick> Playing Support for a reason
1551<Teruzi> not the thrio of overpowered fellas
1552<Teruzi> *trio
1553<@Mishie> this is why point buy is a thing
1554<@Mishie> :|
1555<Chrono|Sick> Going for the Inspiring Leader feat next level
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1557<Chrono|Sick> Temp HP for all
1558<Teruzi> hooray
1559<Quanfinigon> I was in a game a few years ago someone rolled 3 18s and nothing lower than 11
1560<Teruzi> rolling for stats can be silly
1561<Thalia> Quanfinigon, I've done that too. It was awesome.
1562<Quanfinigon> he played a cleric and we decided to not have a fighter type
1563<Quanfinigon> so he had to be the front line
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1565<Quanfinigon> unequal stats can be a boon for the whole group if you play it well
1566<Thalia> Mine was Last Airbender and I was a Firebender. Starting level 5, 4 18s, 15, 11
1567<Chrono|Sick> When your stats average out to 15.66, you start taking a lot of feats.
1568<Thalia> I shot a lot of lightning...
1569<ErrantVagrant> My body can't decide if it's tired and passing out or wide awake.
1570<Chrono|Sick> same!
1571• Rhetorical: pokes EV
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1573<Peng> Mine finally just decided on passing out :X
1574<Silent_Oracle> what has?
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1576<Chrono|Sick> meat-body'
1577<ErrantVagrant> GAH
1578<Silent_Oracle> jesus
1579<Silent_Oracle> do some of you have work or school that keeps you up at such ungodly hours?
1580<Rhetorical> Just bad sleeping habits, here
1581<Rhetorical> All natural
1582<ErrantVagrant> I recently stopped a polyphasic sleep schedule, and my body seems to be angry with me about it.
1583<Silent_Oracle> ...
1584<Silent_Oracle> that sounds like something from star trek
1585<Silent_Oracle> explain, please
1586<Teruzi> well yes Silent
1587<Rhetorical> Sleeping 20 minutes every few hours, I think
1588<Teruzi> sometimes work happens just at this time of the night
1589<Teruzi> or morning
1590<Rhetorical> Depending on which schedule
1591<Silent_Oracle> true, I guess
1592<Chrono|Sick> I'm p fucking sick
1593<ErrantVagrant> I would sleep for 15-20 minutes at a time several times throughout the day.
1594<Silent_Oracle> and does that actually help you?
1595<Rhetorical> Supposedly it allows you to get all the different phases of sleep without spending a third of your life asleep
1596<ErrantVagrant> I'd go for about three hours of sleep a day, feeling extremely energized.
1597<Teruzi> EV is that doable?
1598<Teruzi> I've tried before but
1599<Silent_Oracle> I'm pretty sure you aren't even entering deep sleep in just 20 minutes
1600<Teruzi> I van only reduce it to four hours
1601<Teruzi> *can
1602<Teruzi> and my brain feels angry with me
1603<Teruzi> you can train the body to enter REM, suposedly,  Silent
1604<Teruzi> that's the whole point of the 20 minute schedule, I believe
1605<ErrantVagrant> It's doable, but it took me about a month to get down to four, then about a year to three hours.
1606<Silent_Oracle> hmm
1607<Rhetorical> But a lot of the research shows that eventually, most people get symptoms typical of sleep deprivation
1608<Silent_Oracle> well, I'm largely apathetic, so...
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1610<Silent_Oracle> seems easier just to sleep the 8 or so hours
1611<Teruzi> I think four is doable
1612<Silent_Oracle> *shrug*
1613<Rhetorical> But all that wasted time, S_O
1614<Teruzi> and just sleep another hour on the afternoon
1615<Teruzi> a ndelicious nap
1616<ErrantVagrant> Eventually I got to the point where I'd be able to switch to a "normal" sleep schedule for a day or two and then back with no problems.
1617<Teruzi> it's time you could waste in the internet!
1618<Chrono|Sick> EV confimred sleepwizard
1619<Teruzi> no time to sleep, need more cat pictures
1620<Silent_Oracle> until the day that the fancy-ass no sleep cybernetics come out
1621<Silent_Oracle> I'm not gonna try and change my cycles so much just to save time
1622<ErrantVagrant> I like tabletop roleplaying, my groups typically play until the wee hours of the morn.
1623<ErrantVagrant> I work during the day, and during the evenings people want to do stuff with me.
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1625<Silent_Oracle> every evening?
1626<ErrantVagrant> For me, it was the easiest way to balence my life.
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1628<ErrantVagrant> Well, no, not every evening.
1629<ErrantVagrant> Some evenings I waste on Reddit or playing vidya games.
1630<Teruzi> to be honest, eight hours every day seems almost excessive at times
1631<Teruzi> what are you
1632<Teruzi> a cat?
1633<Silent_Oracle> ...
1634<Silent_Oracle> no comment
1635<ErrantVagrant> But my best friend, as well as folks here, convinced me that it was probably making my health issues worse.
1636<Teruzi> oh yeah
1637<Teruzi> wait yes
1638<Teruzi> what the fuck EV I didn't even think about that
1639<Silent_Oracle> wat
1640<ErrantVagrant> Huh?
1641<Silent_Oracle> jesus christ
1642<Silent_Oracle> sleep is /important/. you need it
1643<Silent_Oracle> if you're getting sicker and sicker, something wrong
1644<ErrantVagrant> I hate sleep, but my body disagrees with me.
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1646<Silent_Oracle> try melatonin
1647<ErrantVagrant> I'm hoping in a few more days, it'll get the hang of this sleep all night thing again.
1648<Silent_Oracle> I hope so too
1649<Silent_Oracle> shouldn't run your meatbag into the ground like that
1650<ErrantVagrant> On the plus side, I seem to finally be getting over my walking pneumonia?  :D
1651<Silent_Oracle> hold on
1652<Silent_Oracle> I need to find a gif
1653<Teruzi> hooray
1654<Teruzi> really SO, it's not always bad to sleep less than eight hours
1655• Clarvel: hugifies tuz
1656<@Clarvel> you are not a hug
1657<@Clarvel> now
1658• Teruzi: pats Clarvel
1659<Teruzi> I refuse to bow to you limitations
1660<Silent_Oracle> I'm not saying that you need to sleep eight hours
1661<Teruzi> well it sounds like it
1662<@Clarvel> :(
1663<Silent_Oracle> I'm saying that if you're getting sick (or have been sick), what the hell are you doing trying to limit the amount of sleep that your body needs to function?
1664<@Clarvel> last time I was majorly sick was on a latin overnight field trip in highschool
1665<@Clarvel> I was miserable from the end of day one till day 2
1666<ErrantVagrant> I know, I know.  That's why I'm trying to get back on a more normal sleep schedule.
1667<Silent_Oracle> well
1668<@Clarvel> when I finally got home I slept on the couch for 14 hrs
1669<Silent_Oracle> at least you're trying
1670<Silent_Oracle> that's good
1671<@Clarvel> there was no try
1672<@Clarvel> I sat down
1673<@Clarvel> closed my eyes for a moment
1674<@Clarvel> woke up, had a blanket on me
1675<@Clarvel> and no longer felt like I was dying
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1677<ErrantVagrant> Normally, I don't get sick.  Maybe once a year I get a minor cold.
1678<ErrantVagrant> This was the first time I've been actual sick in almost 20 years.
1679<Teruzi> to be honest, if EV didn't think it was messing with his health, I think the weird sleep schedule is fine
1680<Teruzi> as long as he's functional
1681<Silent_Oracle> eh, I could agree with that
1682<Silent_Oracle> I've heard of people who do such
1683<Rhetorical> I'd say if EV's doctor didn't think it was messing with his health, it'd be fine
1684<Silent_Oracle> that's a good point
1685<ErrantVagrant> ...Admittedly, my doctors have made frowny faces at me in the past.
1686<Silent_Oracle> if you have one, talk to your doctor
1687<Silent_Oracle> or just have regular checkups
1688<ErrantVagrant> I'm currently seeing several specialists.
1689soulpelt| is now known as soulpelt|sleep
1690<Teruzi> EV is a special boy
1691<Chrono|Sick> short bus special or ambulance special
1692<Rhetorical> Yes
1693<Ryuugi> https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/19090094/
1694<ErrantVagrant> A little of one...
1695<ErrantVagrant> Doing good Ryuugi
1696<Ryuugi> ?
1697<ErrantVagrant> Your update rate is good.
1698<ErrantVagrant> Sadly, I'm not familiar with either fandom, so I don't actually read it when you post updates.  Sorry.
1699<Teruzi> Ryuugi is like the sunrise
1700<Teruzi> never late
1701<Teruzi> or something
1702<Teruzi> I lost the sentence somwhere
1703<Chrono|Sick> Reliable, but'll burn your eyes if you look too close
1704<Ryuugi> I come. And then, much later, I come again.
1705<Ryuugi> Might have lost that analogy somewhere.
1706<ErrantVagrant> I'll get you a towel.  XD
1707<Thalia> Don't forget to bring a towel!
1708<Rhetorical> Ryuugi confirmed not a hoopy frood
1709<@Wildbow> Twig is live.
1710<Teruzi> oh cool
1711<Teruzi> the bleedout
1712<Chrono|Sick> Monstrously, god-hatingly, alive.
1713<Silent_Oracle> god. I have two more stories to read after I finish worm...
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1715<ErrantVagrant> Yaaay Twig!
1716<@Wildbow> You misspelled 'yay', S_O
1717<Silent_Oracle> oh, I'm happy about it
1718<@Wildbow> It's 1am, but I gotta go walk those dogs
1719<Silent_Oracle> it's just, I still haven't finished worm
1720<@Wildbow> brb
1721<Silent_Oracle> you're gonna be old and 20 books in
1722<Silent_Oracle> and I'm gonna be only halfway through twig
1723<Pink> depending on the book size he might already be 20 in
1724<Silent_Oracle> not in terms of individual stories, though
1725• Teller: Twigs.
1726<Teruzi> yeah Teller
1727<Teruzi> you might
1728<Teruzi> you might wanna drink something strong
1729• Teller: looks into the abyss, sober and unflinching.
1730<Teruzi> I meant like
1731<Teruzi> bleach
1732<Teruzi> but ok
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1734<%JENTHULHU> okay
1735<%JENTHULHU> this boss
1736<%JENTHULHU> is a shonen hero fishwoman knight
1737<Teruzi> eh
1738<Teruzi> ?
1739<%JENTHULHU> an Undertale boss
1740<Teruzi> oh yeah
1741<Teruzi> oh hey look
1742<Teruzi> you got internet again
1743<Teruzi> hooray
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1746• JENTHULHU: takes secret panty shots of Teruzi
1747<Teruzi> jokes on you
1748<Teruzi> I have no panties on
1749<@Wildbow> Yeah, the white fabric-looking stuff is a fungal skin condition.
1750<Teruzi> yes, it's very serious
1751<Teruzi> hey 'Bow!}
1752<Teruzi> I read your thing
1753<Teruzi> it was pretty ok, but I kinda felt the very real, very good tension kinda went out with the banter
1754<Teruzi> which I suppose was the intention
1755<Teruzi> so good job?
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1757<Teruzi> great fight tho
1758<Teruzi> :D
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1760• Clarvel: grafts a 5th eye onto Teruzi
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1762<RidtomZZZ> Hey guys and gals
1763<Teruzi> yo
1764RidtomZZZ is now known as Ridtom
1765<Ridtom> Hi Teruzi
1766<Teruzi> also I guess it's a fifth eye 'cause I have glasses?
1767<Teruzi> how observant of you
1768<%JENTHULHU> no
1769<%JENTHULHU> it's a fifth eye because it is eye #5
1770<@Wildbow> Hi Tormid.
1771<Ridtom> Hi Jen
1772<Ridtom> Hi Bildwow
1773<%JENTHULHU> Clarvel just skipped Eyes 3 and 4
1774<Teruzi> gotcha
1775<@Clarvel> wht JENTHULHU dais, but I didnt skip any
1776<Ridtom> Bow when are you going to make a Lillian Web-novel? I'll give you, like, /all/ of my old Chuck-E-Cheese tokens
1777<ErrantVagrant> Dude, take up that offer!
1778<Ridtom> She's just so adorably awkward
1779<Ridtom> Welp, more good news: finished rough draft of the original story idea I had. A nice, below average 1500 words
1780<Teruzi> Ridtom, baby
1781<Teruzi> it's not the lenght of the work
1782<Teruzi> it's what you do with it
1783<Ridtom> Eeey
1784<@Clarvel> or the number of eyes
1785<Ridtom> ...ey?
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1787<@Clarvel> [00:26] Clarvel grafts a 5th eye onto Teruzi
1788<ErrantVagrant> Can I lick it?
1789<Ridtom> I didn't realize Teruzi was Tien
1790<@Clarvel> no, tuz only has 2
1791<Teruzi> plus one
1792<@Clarvel> I keep having to replace them
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1795<Teruzi> speaking of eyes
1796<Teruzi> and replacements
1797<Teruzi> sup Vern
1798<Teruzi> how's the eyelid?
1799<VereorPirate> Yarrr
1800<Thalia> Yarr!
1801<VereorPirate> It's better, but kinda not
1802<ErrantVagrant> Yar!
1803<VereorPirate> It's healing but still not at the level I'd he comfortable with walking to school with.
1804<Silent_Oracle> what'd you do?
1805<Rhetorical> Angered a demon
1806<Silent_Oracle> bad move
1807<Teruzi> you should see the other guy
1808<VereorPirate> I decided to become blind, you noisy oracle. :p
1809<VereorPirate> ^
1810<Rhetorical> "Silent"
1811<Rhetorical> :P
1812<Silent_Oracle> it's a good career path. I can definitely say that it made the business more legit if you don't have eyes to see
1813<Silent_Oracle> and, you can say "where we're going, we won't /need/ eyes"
1814<Silent_Oracle> so, that's a plus too
1815<Silent_Oracle> ... I think I can hear the groans of disappointment from here
1816<VereorPirate> Huh, uh, sorry, I'm actually trying to make myself a cappuccino without my right eye helping my depth perception
1817<VereorPirate> I managed to waste like two cups already
1818<ErrantVagrant> :|
1819<Silent_Oracle> that's a damn shame
1820<VereorPirate> Yeah
1821<VereorPirate> That's nothijg to say about the red arm now that I poured hot water over it twice.
1822<VereorPirate> If it wasn't for autocorrect I couldn't even type correctly on this thing
1823<Silent_Oracle> *facepalm*
1824<Silent_Oracle> you really screwed up your eye, didn't you?
1825<VereorPirate> No, dear
1826<VereorPirate> That was nature
1827<VereorPirate> Nature screwed up my eye
1828<VereorPirate> But this is a game in which only the fittest survive, so I'll deal.
1829<Silent_Oracle> did you walk into a tree, or did the squirrels get you?
1830<VereorPirate> No, I stepped out of the shower and suddenly had an infection in my eye
1831<VereorPirate> Only two days after the hot water was fixed, and the repairmen from the landlord doing their work
1832<VereorPirate> I guess the must've fucked something up
1833<Silent_Oracle> wow
1834<Silent_Oracle> that sucks
1835<VereorPirate> Yeah
1836<VereorPirate> But they, thinking positively
1837<VereorPirate> At least I don't have both eyes infected
1838<Silent_Oracle> true
1839<Teruzi> yet
1840<Silent_Oracle> get well soon
1841<VereorPirate> I'll try
1842<VereorPirate> If I go blind
1843<VereorPirate> You know where to find me
1844<VereorPirate> At least I hope so, because I wouldn't know
1845<Silent_Oracle> they have cybernetic eyes
1846<Silent_Oracle> you'll be fine
1847<Silent_Oracle> or you can get some nifty glasses
1848<Silent_Oracle> but they have to drill a hole in your head to run the wire to your brain
1849<VereorPirate> Uhh
1850<Silent_Oracle> don't worry
1851<VereorPirate> I prefer to remain organic
1852<Silent_Oracle> they've been doing this since the 1900s
1853<Silent_Oracle> I'm sure they won't screw up
1854<VereorPirate> Stiiiiill
1855<VereorPirate> I don't trust German doctors
1856<Silent_Oracle> you could be like jensen, dude
1857<@Nae> *Major
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1859<Bruticus> Ask the one Japanese doctor at the German hospital
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1861<Bruticus> He's probably pretty nice
1862<Teruzi> why wouldn't you trust german doctors, that's silly
1863<VereorPirate> I don't like the Japanese one either
1864<VereorPirate> He's strange
1865<Teruzi> so picky
1866<VereorPirate> For that matter, the Turkish one is even worse
1867<ErrantVagrant> Awww, but if you go cyborg, you might get to date a lovely AI!
1868<Thalia> Indian?
1869<VereorPirate> The Indian is cool, but not a surgeon
1870<Bruticus> Damn it, I was making a reference
1871<Teruzi> no one reads Monster
1872<Teruzi> is a darned shame
1873<Bruticus> Ehhhh Tuzi got it
1874• VereorPirate: also got it,  but the hospitals in Berlin are full of doctors and nurses of every nationality
1875<VereorPirate> Because nothing says multiculturalism more  than being treated by a Muslim doctor, brought food by a German nurse and get your papers brought to you by an Asian guy
1876<Silent_Oracle> eh
1877<Silent_Oracle> I can never tell ethnicities anymore
1878<@Nae> needs African to complete the circle
1879<Silent_Oracle> I wouldn't notice
1880<Teruzi> you say that like it's bad Vern, really
1881<VereorPirate> Nae: do African patients count?
1882<Teruzi> and you're arab as fuck too
1883<VereorPirate> Teruzi depends on the district
1884<@Nae> yep
1885<ErrantVagrant> Nobody ever hires a mi-go.
1886<VereorPirate> For Example, Marzahn is the most German district in Berlin
1887<VereorPirate> But!
1888<VereorPirate> The Germans there
1889<VereorPirate> Are bigger assholes
1890<Quanfinigon> that makes sense
1891<VereorPirate> Than any immigrant who refuses to adapt
1892<Rhetorical> "Do you get up to the Marzahn district?"
1893<ErrantVagrant> Yeah, I'm familiar with that sort of thing.
1894<Rhetorical> "Oh, what am I saying. Of course you don't."
1895<VereorPirate> There's a comedian here
1896<VereorPirate> Whose name is always the full title, for fun
1897<VereorPirate> Cindy from Marzahn
1898<ErrantVagrant> Dang it, now I suddenly want to play Conspiracy X or Delta Green.
1899• VereorPirate: holds a flash light in front of ErrantVagrant
1900<VereorPirate> There is no war in Ba Sing Se
1901<Rhetorical> We have always been at peace
1902<Bruticus> Wait
1903<Bruticus> Did you finally watch it?
1904Thalia is now known as Thaliaway
1905<ErrantVagrant> ...What?
1906<ErrantVagrant> I watched a couple of eps, but that's it so far.
1907<Bruticus> Was talking to Rhet, because he quoted it
1908<Quanfinigon> Did you get to the part with the big blue guys that connect with the giant tree
1909<ErrantVagrant> Ah sorry.
1910<Teruzi> hush
1911<Teruzi> you're spoiling
1912<ErrantVagrant> I forget who was wanting me to watch.
1913<Bruticus> Probably me
1914<Rhetorical> No
1915<Rhetorical> I was quoting 1984
1916<Rhetorical> :P
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1918<Bruticus> Yeah, that's why
1919<Quanfinigon> I was referencing avatar movie :P
1920<Quanfinigon> was a very poorly done joke
1921<ErrantVagrant> I will say this, though.  You people are slave drivers.
1922<Rhetorical> Hmm?
1923<ErrantVagrant> In the past month, I've been pressured into Avatar, Pratchett, and...  I forget what else because I didn't like or dislike it enough to remember it.
1924<ErrantVagrant> A manga.  I forget what.
1925<Quanfinigon> I hear Worm is good. You should read that
1926<Teller> You remembered Avatar and Pratchett. That'll do.
1927<VereorPirate> ^
1928<VereorPirate> Obviously we need a worm animation with the style of avatar
1929<ErrantVagrant> Yeah, I'm on page 20-something of Guards Guards.
1930<Teruzi> eh Pratchett
1931<Quanfinigon> interesting
1932<Quanfinigon> to me, Guards Guards marks the transition from his early haphazard writing into the later more settled style
1933<Quanfinigon> it's the first of his really good books
1934<ErrantVagrant> I've been told similar, yes.
1935<ErrantVagrant> Honestly, no matter what it's honestly a win-win for me to devote the time to reading it, so yeah, I'm giving it a go.
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1938• VereorPirate: has no money for books
1939• VereorPirate: sits here, twiddling thumbs
1940• VereorPirate: realizes he has not yet watched the new doctor who episode
1941<Rhetorical> Look at the second half of your name
1942<Rhetorical> :|
1943<ErrantVagrant> I was waiting for that.  :)
1944<VereorPirate> Mobile phone reading is shit
1945<VereorPirate> At least, for prolonged time
1946<Quanfinigon> I haven't caught up yet on dr who
1947<Quanfinigon> Last time I was watching I think I'm about 1/3 of the way through the 4th doctor
1948<Teller> I fell off the Who wagon this season.
1949<Teller> I just haven't bothered to watch any of the latest episodes.
1950<ErrantVagrant> Quanfinigon, you'd best be talking about Tom Baker.
1951<Quanfinigon> the one with the scarf
1952<ErrantVagrant> Okay, you're good.
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1954<ErrantVagrant> Otherwise I'd have to strangle you with the scarf and bury you in a shallow grave of jelly babies.
1955<Quanfinigon> did you know the original sonic screwdriver's only purpose was to screw/unscrew actuals screws from a distance?
1956<ErrantVagrant> Yup.  Then things got weird.
1957<Pink> props cost money
1958<Pink> best only have one
1959<Quanfinigon> they probably aren't even using the same prop
1960<ErrantVagrant> In the new who, they ended up using the toys because Smith kept breaking them
1961<Pink> well, now
1962<Pink> I'm talking when they used a police box because that's the only prop they had
1963<Pink> and when every alien planet was the same quarry, when it wasn't a room.
1964<ErrantVagrant> ...hey, that quarry is awesome.
1965<Pink> These days anyone with a cellphone can achieve better production values than the first season of dr. who
1966<Rhetorical> Ah, I forgot
1967<ErrantVagrant> They'd need another $10 to do as good as the Troughton era
1968<Rhetorical> I have cookies!
1969<Quanfinigon> One of my favorite things from the early stuff is how Dr would keep going on about not changing history, then when they get to Trojan War he pretends to be Zeus and directly gives them the idea for buliding a big horse
1970<Quanfinigon> companion even calls him out on it
1971<Pink> technically he didn
1972<Pink> 't CHANGE history
1973<Pink> but yes, history is very flexible as a concept to the guy.
1974<Quanfinigon> still
1975<%JENTHULHU> I think I've got my finger on the pulse of what I think is Undertale's strongest quality
1976<Pink> he's no worse about it than, say, jean luc picard
1977<Pink> jen- matronly cowladies?
1978<Pink> suggestively wiggling jellies?
1979<%JENTHULHU> all the characters, even as goofy as they can be(and some of the characters are quite goofy) are genuine
1980<ErrantVagrant> o_oo
1981<%JENTHULHU> also, I'd argue Toriel is more of a goatlady
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1984<Teruzi> she's more like
1985<Teruzi> a monster
1986<%JENTHULHU> but, like, they don't feel like they're reading from a dramatic script, they feel like they're doing things for reasons, which make sense given their character
1987<Pink> I've not been through the whole thing, but yeah
1988<Pink> It does feel a lot like you're intersecting a bunch of lives.
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1990<ErrantVagrant> Finally passing out.  ciao
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1992<Rhetorical> o/ EV
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2000<krahe> hello everyone
2001<Rhetorical> o/
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2006<+Elara> ayyo
2007<Teller> o/
2008<+Elara> how do Teller?
2009<+Elara> I see Rhet's still alive, what's up boyo?
2010• Teller: is decent.
2011<Teller> How's Elara?
2012<+Elara> 'm ok
2013<+Elara> sorta jobhunting, underslept, overworked...otherwise pretty good
2014<Teller> Overworked, underslept, and jobhunting seems to describe a rapidly increasing number of people I know lately.
2015<+Elara> 1) and 3) are pretty directly linked, at least in my case :P
2016<krahe> is Utena worth to watch?
2017<Teruzi> yes
2018<Teruzi> but be warned is heavy on the symbolism
2019<Teruzi> and kinda slow
2020<Teruzi> also it's hyper shoujo
2021<Teruzi> like
2022<Teruzi> dang man
2023<Teruzi> dem shoulderpads
2024<@Wildbow> Trippy pre-battle music though
2025<@Wildbow> I like to listen to it on occasion.
2026<@Wildbow> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3e2GwpZ7ug
2027<Teruzi> indeed
2028<Teruzi> oh man
2029<Teruzi> blocked in my country
2030<Teruzi> ruuude
2031<krahe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkesnF4dR1w this one?
2032<+Elara> o/ 'Bow
2033<+Elara> you're up late
2034<@Wildbow> Nah, this is usual for me
2035<+Elara> how are you? :)
2036<@Wildbow> Not too bad
2037<Teruzi> to be honest, anything Yuki Kajiura tends to be pretty good
2038<@Wildbow> Is that yuki kajiura?
2039<@Wildbow> I didn't realize
2040<@Wildbow> Thought I'd listened to most YK stuff.
2041<Teruzi> isn't it?
2042<Teruzi> I might be misremembering
2043<Teruzi> hm
2044<Teruzi> lemme check
2045<@Wildbow> Not getting the vibe, honestly.
2046<Teruzi> huh yeah
2047<Teruzi> made by some other dude
2048<Teruzi> J.A. Seazer  apparently
2049<krahe> sometime I think that main thought of toho fan artists is 'you know what we need? more crossovers'
2050VernZzZ is now known as Vern|Pirate
2051<Yewnyx> Teruzi: produced by J A  Caesar: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%E3%83%BBA%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC
2052<Yewnyx> Disk 10 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E9%9D%A9%E5%91%BD%E3%82%A6%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A_%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88CD-BOX#Disk10)
2053<Teruzi> oh
2054• Teruzi: squints
2055<Yewnyx> no wait, your spelling was right
2056<Teruzi> I don't read japanese
2057<Yewnyx> real name Terahara Takaaki anyhow
2058<Teruzi> but I'll take your word for it?
2059<Yewnyx> it's spelled shi-za-, and pronounced as such, be apparently he preferred the transliteration of "Sea" over "Cae"
2060<Yewnyx> yeah was just finding corroborating sources
2061<Yewnyx> you got it right
2062<Teruzi> aw yee
2063<krahe> oh wow
2064<krahe> it's looks like some of 90's sad adults hit their middle age crisis
2065<krahe> 'now everything is a shit, 90's were great, let's forget all the clusterfuck that it really was and drow in the wave of moronic nostalgia'
2066<krahe> it's just sad and hilarious
2067<krahe> talk right now about new social media trend
2068<krahe> selective memory all the way
2069<Teruzi> well yes
2070<Teruzi> it applies to us as well
2071<Teruzi> eventually
2072Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin
2073<Vern|Pirate> no
2074<Vern|Pirate> I will never have a midlife crisis
2075<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2076<Teruzi> you have like seven small crisis per week
2077<Teruzi> soon you will find an adaptation so bad
2078<Teruzi> you'll shave your head in protest or something
2079<+Elara> ayy Pirate
2080<krahe> Teruzi, well you didn't have a default, skyrocketed spike of corruption, mass pro-west 'sell everything for nothing' hysteria and emerged from the underground with gusto organized crime in 90s
2081<Teruzi> um, no
2082<Teruzi> I didn't have that
2083<Teruzi> I'm not a country though
2084<Vern|Pirate> uh
2085<Vern|Pirate> Considering how I'm going bald already, Teruzi
2086<krahe> bad frustated english
2087<krahe> sorry
2088<Vern|Pirate> I will shave my head not out of protest
2089<Vern|Pirate> But out of misery and making it look reasonable :|
2090<Teruzi> heh
2091<Teruzi> I bet you'll look fiiiine, even bald
2092<Teruzi> in fact
2093<Teruzi> you could be that one weirdly attracting balding teacher
2094• Teruzi: salivates
2095<krahe> I just can't even imagine how thick lenses on their pink glasses
2096<Teruzi> but but
2097<Teruzi> muh nostalgia
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2099<Quanfinigon> holy shit, just realized Andross from Starfox, name literally means man
2100<Quanfinigon> and he's the only non-animal...
2101<krahe> huh
2102<krahe> neat
2103<+Elara> how...surprising :P
2104<Yewnyx> Teruzi: I grew up in CA during the dot com boom while property prices continued to rise so yeah the 90s were legitimately better from a socioeconomic point of view
2105<Yewnyx> housing bubble burst plus post 9/11 hysteria leading into foreign engagements...the mid to late 90s were at least better than the aughts IMO
2106<Teruzi> yes but
2107<Teruzi> no internet
2108<Quanfinigon> sure there was
2109<Quanfinigon> just no goggle
2110<Quanfinigon> oogle*
2111<Vern|Pirate> I'm on an adventure, guys.
2112<Benguin> But no tumblr
2113<Quanfinigon> I remember asking jeeves for help on school projects
2114<Vern|Pirate> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/t0ynr/throwaway_time_whats_your_secret_that_could/ this thread is an adventure
2115<Teruzi> ech
2116<Teruzi> I'm not sure I want to have an adventure Vern
2117<Vern|Pirate> BUT
2118<Vern|Pirate> BUUUUT
2119<Vern|Pirate> Okay, yeah
2120<Vern|Pirate> Trigger warning for everything there
2121<Vern|Pirate> And a scary amount of incest
2122<Vern|Pirate> Like
2123<Teruzi> alright
2124<Teruzi> not surprising
2125<Vern|Pirate> One in ten is someone having sex with their cousin.
2126<Teruzi> and still makes me queasy
2127<Vern|Pirate> 36k comments remaining
2128<Teruzi> oh boy
2129<krahe> No
2130<krahe> I learned my lesson, Mr Bones
2131<krahe> I won't get on this ride
2132• Rhetorical: belatedly notices Elara's ping
2133<+Elara> you ok Rhet?
2134<Rhetorical> I am
2135<Rhetorical> How are you?
2136<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: i don't know how you're sorting those comments but the cousin posts are all towards the bottom
2137<Vern|Pirate> It says "top comments"
2138<krahe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfAHs-CP28g oh wow
2139<Vern|Pirate> BUt sometimes I see comments of 300 upvotes over those with 4000
2140<+Elara> 'm areet, aye
2141<Yewnyx> ah. i sort by 'best'
2142<Teruzi> I just switched to new first
2143<Rhetorical> Elara: did you hear how that date thing turned out?
2144<+Elara> what, the girl asking you out by text and whatnot?
2145<Teruzi> wowowow
2146<Rhetorical> Yeah
2147<Teruzi> what's this
2148• Teruzi: sits down
2149<Teruzi> Do tell
2150<Quanfinigon> it's partly because newer posts are going to have less total votes
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2152<Rhetorical> Well Tuzi
2153<Vern|Pirate> "I once helped out my a female friend's family by taking care of their cat for a week. Every day for a week, I would go over there and snoop around their house. I found my friend's diary, and proceeded to read the entire thing. I used this information to get her to like me, and she is currently my wife."
2154<Rhetorical> It all started last night at 11:05 pm
2155• Vern|Pirate: closes the thread and will enjoy it for the rest of the year
2156<Yewnyx> wait, does it say 'top 200 comments" sorted by best?
2157<Yewnyx> or top 200 comments sorted by top
2158<Rhetorical> When I received a text from a girl, let's call her C, saying, "Rhet, let's date."
2159<Rhetorical> This girl I had met a few times before
2160<Teruzi> oh man, I like her style
2161<Teruzi> please, continue
2162<Vern|Pirate> I just went from "best" to "top" not sure how reddit does shit
2163<Rhetorical> On a somewhat related note, the platform she sent the message on automatically send read receipts
2164<Rhetorical> which I had forgotten about at the time
2165<Vern|Pirate> You mean facebook
2166<Rhetorical> I mean GroupMe
2167<Vern|Pirate> What's that shit
2168<Rhetorical> Group texting, primarily, but individual users can also message each other
2169<Vern|Pirate> That's why you don't get laid, Rhet, you use obscure social networks.
2170<Rhetorical> The latter is how she sent this message
2171<Rhetorical> Anyways
2172<Rhetorical> As I was thinking about how to respond
2173<Rhetorical> Taking into account that I didn't know her that well to begin with, and the little I have gotten to know her suggests she's not at all my type
2174<Rhetorical> And including asking people here for advice
2175<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: it weights time of the votes in, since as a threat gets more popular, it snowballs. 'best' tries to surface the newer comments that rose quickly since another vote late in the game on the highest comments means very little compared to the first few votes
2176<Yewnyx> source: I worked at reddit
2177<Vern|Pirate> You got fired for telling people secrets? ;D
2178• Vern|Pirate: absorbs the Reddit secrets
2179<Vern|Pirate> I still say you should call her out on her bullshit, Rhetorical
2180<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: not for telling people secrets, no.
2181<Rhetorical> At 11:15 pm, she posted a screenshot of her text to me, with the little notice saying I had read it, to the group chat including her, me, and a few other friends
2182<Teruzi> hooo
2183<Vern|Pirate> Yewnyx confirmed redditleaks
2184<Teruzi> hooooooooo
2185<Teruzi> alright
2186<Vern|Pirate> CALL HER OUT ON THIS
2187<Vern|Pirate> And post her reaction
2188<Teruzi> yeah
2189<Teruzi> alright wait wait
2190<Vern|Pirate> :|
2191<Teruzi> finish Rhet, then I'll tell you what I think
2192<Teruzi> let us not color his telling, be honest dude
2193<Teruzi> I'll hold off until the end
2194<Rhetorical> This prompted a slew of reaction gifs in the group chat
2195<Rhetorical> Including this one, from her: http://i.groupme.com/460x432.gif.17a03162f7fc4b5993c44c42f55d2a09.large
2196<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2197<Vern|Pirate> Pls tell me
2198<Vern|Pirate> You wrote in the chat
2199<Vern|Pirate> "You know I'm in here, right?"
2200<Rhetorical> At around 11:20 pm, C's friend from high school, A, texted me asking what I was doing
2201<Quanfinigon> should have takin a screenie of her screenie and posted it
2202<Vern|Pirate> ^
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2204<Rhetorical> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EcYWcbXf/Screenshot_2015-09-29-04-05-40.png
2205<Rhetorical> Pretend my name's not on that
2206<Teruzi> ok
2207<@Wildbow> You've already let your name slip before
2208<Teruzi> guy though
2209<Rhetorical> "let slip"
2210<Rhetorical> As in, Lumi told everyone
2211<Rhetorical> :P
2212<@Wildbow> That's essentially it
2213<Teruzi> what really
2214<Teruzi> hmph
2215<@Wildbow> When I was reading what you wrote above
2216<Rhetorical> Sorta
2217<Rhetorical> I'd mentioned it above
2218<Rhetorical> *before
2219<@Wildbow> I thought for the longest time you were obliquely referencing lumpi
2220<Teruzi> Lumi who lives in Brazil?
2221<Rhetorical> ^
2222<Teruzi> unlkely
2223• Wildbow: shrugs
2224<Teruzi> *unlikely
2225<Teruzi> but hey, there's a million of us
2226<@Wildbow> Also, do you use f.lux, Rhet?
2227<Teruzi> hard to keep track
2228<Rhetorical> Anyways, I didn't answer A's text, because I assumed she was texting about the thing
2229<Teruzi> flux <3
2230<@Wildbow> Because that's a very pink screenshot to me.  Wondering if it's accumulated f.lux
2231<Teruzi> but so incandescent
2232<Rhetorical> I use an app called Twilight, which is essentially the same thing for Android
2233• Wildbow: nods
2234<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
2235<@Wildbow> Is pretty much pumpkin orange to me
2236<Teruzi> yeah, me too
2237<Benguin> I used to use Redshift
2238<Benguin> similar to f.lux
2239<Teruzi> did the 24 hour preview and voila, orange
2240<Benguin> slightly better laptop support on linux
2241<Rhetorical> Moving on
2242<Teruzi> yeah, continue
2243<Benguin> Yeah jim
2244<Rhetorical> At 11:50 pm, A posted in the group chat, saying, "Rhet, I do have your number. I will give it to her. Please respond."
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2247<Rhetorical> Which she then did
2248<@Wildbow> So much drama
2249<Vern|Pirate> Uh, in... the same chat that the screenshot was posted?
2250<Rhetorical> I let it go to voicemail, because I was not ready to deal with it
2251<Rhetorical> Yes
2252<Vern|Pirate> What is wrong with those kind of people?
2253<Rhetorical> Shortly afterwards, A posted a video of C calling me on speakerphone and getting my voicemail
2254<Vern|Pirate> ...
2255<+Elara> is this all some weird bit of performance art?
2256<Rhetorical> Oh, I'd forgotten about this one
2257<Teruzi> what Elara said
2258<Rhetorical> @Corder Guy R u gonna guest star on the Claudia soap opera or not
2259<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2260<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
2261<Vern|Pirate> Upload the video
2262<Vern|Pirate> :D
2263<Vern|Pirate> Gosh, I'm feeling like an Arabic housewife with all this drama.
2264<Benguin> is rhet being stalk-doxxed?
2265<Rhetorical> It has my phone number visible, so I think not
2266<Teruzi> aight
2267<Vern|Pirate> :(
2268<@Wildbow> Holy shit, bad manner
2269• Vern|Pirate: has Lumi's phone number
2270<@Wildbow> Putting your number online for others to find/see
2271<Rhetorical> It's just the phone call, no commentary
2272<Rhetorical> It's in the private group chat
2273<Rhetorical> With like, six or seven friends in it
2274<Vern|Pirate> Obviously it's only 5 friends
2275<Rhetorical> Not public
2276<Vern|Pirate> With those 2 missing :|
2277<Rhetorical> :|
2278<Vern|Pirate> But Rheeeet
2279<Vern|Pirate> Call them out
2280<Rhetorical> Anyways
2281<Rhetorical> This morning
2282<Rhetorical> I gave her a call as soon as I was awake and we were both not in class
2283<Rhetorical> I had to decided to pretty much ignore all the stuff, because I wasn't interested in dating her in the first place
2284<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate++
2285<Vern|Pirate> :/
2286<Rhetorical> So I call her, and say "I saw your message, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you down."
2287<Rhetorical> She says, "That's fine, just post it in the group chat. I have a reaction gif for this."
2288• Vern|Pirate: still thinks you should call them out in the group chat and see who are your real friends#
2289<Teruzi> oh man
2290<Rhetorical> It's at this point that I say "What the fuck"
2291<Rhetorical> After hanging up, of course
2292<Rhetorical> Wouldn't want to ruin my image of a good Christian boy
2293<Teruzi> you're christian?
2294<Teruzi> huh
2295<Vern|Pirate> Did you see his pic?
2296<Teruzi> never knew
2297<Vern|Pirate> Of course he is
2298<Rhetorical> That's profiling
2299<Teruzi> this is shocking
2300<Rhetorical> :P
2301<Teruzi> what an incredible turn of events, anyways
2302<Rhetorical> I don't post in the group chat
2303<Vern|Pirate> Well, at least you aren't Mormon
2304<Benguin> Are you religious christian or is your family christian (out of curiosity)
2305<Rhetorical> She post saying I called and said no
2306<Benguin> Like
2307<Rhetorical> Yes
2308<Teruzi> I digress
2309<Vern|Pirate> Rhet wins
2310<Teruzi> whatcha need help with?
2311<Benguin> Allow me to rephrase if you will: Do you believe in the Christian faith?
2312<Vern|Pirate> CALLLLLLLL THEMMMMM OUUUUUUUUT
2313<Rhetorical> And posts her reaction gif
2314<Vern|Pirate> Or add me to the group!
2315<Rhetorical> Ben: That's a broad statement
2316<Teruzi> Vern, don't be so dramatic, gosh
2317<Rhetorical> That would be hilarious, Vern
2318<Yewnyx> do they not get how violating that is
2319<Benguin> You're right.
2320<Rhetorical> I'm sorely tempted
2321<Yewnyx> jeez >_<
2322<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group, and I will call them out.
2323<@Wildbow> I'd just steer clear of the drama
2324<Rhetorical> I am guessing
2325<Rhetorical> he is more of a peach man
2326<Rhetorical> ^ Re: me
2327<Benguin> Rhetorical: what do you think about this jesus dude though
2328<Rhetorical> I have no idea what that means
2329<Rhetorical> I think he was pretty cool
2330<Benguin> Got ya'
2331<Quanfinigon> he usre likes appearing on toast
2332<Vern|Pirate> Also a broad statement
2333<Vern|Pirate> Jesus is also prophet for the Islam, Benguin
2334<Teruzi> yes, but so is mohamed (oooh)
2335<Benguin> My question wasn't really about like
2336<Benguin> a specific religio
2337<Benguin> n
2338<Teruzi> aight
2339<Teruzi> bottom line
2340<Teruzi> she's cray
2341<Teruzi> stand clear
2342<Rhetorical> And then A texted me earlier today
2343<Yewnyx> Teruzi: and baha'i, no?
2344<Benguin> more "are you an athiest with a religious family or are you yourself religious" but
2345<Vern|Pirate> best way to phrase this question is "Do you believe you are going to burn if you stick your dick into someone without sticking your finger into a ringer first?"
2346<Vern|Pirate> finger into a ringer
2347<Vern|Pirate> wtf hands
2348<Teruzi> oi oi
2349<Teruzi> leave the boy alone
2350<Vern|Pirate> This isn't a typo you can do
2351<Rhetorical> Getting mad at me for reacting to it as though she were being serious, rather than realizing that it was, in A's eyes obviously, a joke.
2352<Vern|Pirate> espc. because "Ringer" means "Wrestler" in German
2353<Benguin> I don't mean to um..
2354<Benguin> probe
2355<Vern|Pirate> <.<
2356<Benguin> Mostly.
2357<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: what kind of ring ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
2358<Teruzi> well maybe she shouldn't have put you on the spot
2359<Rhetorical> Ben want to probe me?
2360<Teruzi> how about -that- shit
2361• Teruzi: shyly raises his hand
2362<Teruzi> I-I'll do it
2363<Benguin> Sure but I don't have my gear and I'd hate to do a half-arsed job.
2364<Rhetorical> Heh
2365<Rhetorical> half-arsed
2366<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group
2367<Benguin> Right I gotta scram
2368<Benguin> later o/!
2369<Quanfinigon> what colourful language
2370<Vern|Pirate> I will send jokingly Nazi reaction pictures
2371<+Elara> you need better chat groups Rhet
2372<Rhetorical> A few excerpts from A's texts
2373<+Elara> like this one :P
2374<Vern|Pirate> "Oh Nein You Didn't"
2375<Rhetorical> Indeed
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2377<Rhetorical> A asked why I didn't respond to her texts
2378<Rhetorical> I said I wasn't interested in the topic
2379<Vern|Pirate> Because she's a bitch?
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2381<Quanfinigon> I bet at least one of them is the kind of person who says "I hate drama"
2382<Rhetorical> Because I sure as hell wasn't going to tell someone else my response to C before I told C
2383<Teruzi> correct
2384<Rhetorical> She said, "Wow. Rude. You know it was somewhat of a joke, right? We didn't expect you to say yes"
2385<Teruzi> I mean, good choice
2386<Teruzi> did you ever talk to C tho
2387<Rhetorical> "Don't get me wrong, I was hoping you'd say yes"
2388<Rhetorical> I did
2389<Rhetorical> Earlier today, in the morning
2390<Rhetorical> I called, she told me to post it to the group chat and then said bye
2391<Teruzi> 'kay
2392<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group chat
2393<Rhetorical> Also later, but I'm going chronologically
2394<Vern|Pirate> I will make sure those kind of people will never talk to you
2395<Vern|Pirate> Ever again.
2396<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2397• Teruzi: pats Vern
2398• Vern|Pirate: tips his tongue with poison
2399<Teruzi> stop being so jelly, it's unsightly
2400<Teruzi> let him finish
2401<Rhetorical> I said posting the thingy to the group chat before I had responded was classless, regardless of whether it was a joke or not
2402<Rhetorical> A said that was the joke
2403<Rhetorical> Because I didn't respond
2404<Rhetorical> (?)
2405<Vern|Pirate> You should jokingly ask for nudes :|
2406<Rhetorical> And that C actually does like me
2407<Vern|Pirate> Or maybe A is a bitch
2408<Vern|Pirate> And wanted an answer quicker
2409<Vern|Pirate> So she posted the pic?!
2410<Vern|Pirate> Call them out!#
2411<Rhetorical> "What are you really mad about, though? That she had the guts to ask you on a date or that she did it publicly?"
2412<Rhetorical> "It was jokingly in case you said no"
2413<Rhetorical> "I tried to throw you a bone, but if you'd rather watch grass die then that's fine too"
2414<Rhetorical> (These are all A)
2415<Vern|Pirate> A is a bitch
2416<Vern|Pirate> I will assume A is the last letter in her name
2417<Vern|Pirate> Her name must be Linda
2418<Yewnyx> I mean if it was me I'd just say "I didn't respond because this experience was intensely violating and not in good humor. However funny you think it is, guilting people, giving out numbers, and trying to induce emotional whiplash for good fun is mean-spirited"
2419<Vern|Pirate> Fucking Linda :|
2420<Rhetorical> A is the first letter
2421<Vern|Pirate> Dammit Rhet
2422<Rhetorical> Then, later
2423<Vern|Pirate> Don't kill my hate boner
2424<Rhetorical> C messaged me
2425<Rhetorical> "Sorry for freaking you out and being too aggressive"
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2427<Quanfinigon> Adnil, then
2428<Rhetorical> I said that wasn't the issue, that I wasn't sure how to react to her posting it on the group chat
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2430<+Elara> it's not about the aggression of askin' tho, is it. it's about publicising it. what are these kids, 12?
2431<Rhetorical> "Idk it started out as a joke with A cuz I think you're cute and I thought maybe you'd think it was funny. Sorry"
2432<Rhetorical> "Sorry for offending you"
2433<+Elara> you are right to not want to date a 12 year old Rhet <3
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2435<Rhetorical> Unless it's Lumi
2436<Rhetorical> C is 18, A is ... 19?
2437<Rhetorical> I think she's 19 now
2438<Vern|Pirate> Okay
2439<Olivebirdy> Lumi is 20.
2440<Olivebirdy> Why?
2441<Vern|Pirate> I will push all blame on A from now on
2442<Rhetorical> Anyways, thus ends the glorious epic of Rhet, A, and C
2443<Vern|Pirate> no
2444Narf is now known as Narf|Sleep
2445<Vern|Pirate> nooooo
2446<Vern|Pirate> This isn't the end
2447<Vern|Pirate> You didn't add me to the group yet
2448<Olivebirdy> What is going on?
2449<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, add me to the group, I need to have a serious talk with A
2450<Vern|Pirate> A very serious talk
2451<krahe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l_LcVNrEhA d'aww
2452<Rhetorical> Vern pls
2453<cukier> I missed the part when you bury A's body?
2454• Olivebirdy: tackles Vern for ignoring him.
2455• Vern|Pirate: throws Olivebirdy down the stairs
2456<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
2457<Rhetorical> A was one of my first friends at uni, and it was through her that I met most of my other friends here
2458• Olivebirdy: drags Vern|Pirate down with him.
2459<Vern|Pirate> A is a bitch, Rhet
2460<Teruzi> Vern
2461<Teruzi> so are you
2462<krahe> lovecraft is the best
2463<Teruzi> AND YET
2464<Teruzi> HERE WE ARE
2465<Vern|Pirate> Yes, Tuzi
2466<Teruzi> :D
2467<Vern|Pirate> But I'm a different kind of bitch
2468<Teruzi> well yeah
2469<Yewnyx> so yeah maybe a heartfelt talk would be nice
2470<Vern|Pirate> I understand that there are lines you can't cross
2471<Yewnyx> rather than anger
2472<Yewnyx> well that, or maybe have Vern|Pirate taint them in haiku form
2473<Rhetorical> I think it's kinda funny, as is
2474<Teruzi> hearfelt is such a weird word
2475<Yewnyx> taunt*
2476<Rhetorical> Wouldn't be so much if I actually were interested in C
2477<Teruzi> "let us have a coronary talk" said no one ever
2478<Vern|Pirate> Admittedly, the lines I wouldn't cross are a bit different to the lines placed in this chat
2479<Vern|Pirate> But I can adapt
2480<Rhetorical> And I'm certainly not going to tell them I think it's funny
2481<Quanfinigon> Elder Gods are like teenagers: no one understands them
2482<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2483<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2484<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group
2485<Rhetorical> Vern
2486<Olivebirdy> Guys, what are you talking about...
2487<Rhetorical> I don't trust you that much
2488<Olivebirdy> :<
2489<Quanfinigon> vern, no
2490<Vern|Pirate> I need to have a serious talk with all of the involved
2491<Vern|Pirate> :(
2492<Vern|Pirate> I can send you nudes which you can share online if I'm a bad person
2493<Vern|Pirate> Would that balance this out?
2494<Rhetorical> Um
2495<Rhetorical> No?
2496• Vern|Pirate: is untrustworthy and that hurts
2497<Teruzi> oi oi
2498<Teruzi> Vern I have a private chat group
2499<Teruzi> and it has drama
2500<Teruzi> something something dating
2501<Teruzi> something something Linda
2502• cukier: gives Vern a painkillers.
2503<Teruzi> why don't -I- get the same offer?
2504<Teruzi> hmmm?
2505<Teruzi> HMM?
2506<Rhetorical> They'd probably kick you off right away, Vern
2507<Vern|Pirate> BECAUSE YOU NEVER TOLD ME, TUZI
2508<Vern|Pirate> Rhetorical: Okay, I promise! No dick pics or smiling Hitler memes.
2509<Rhetorical> Or being someone they've never met that's going to yell at them :P
2510<Vern|Pirate> I'm not gonna yell at them
2511<Vern|Pirate> I will have a genuine conversation with them, based on facts and a modicum of human decency.
2512<cukier> I have group chat on facebook and there is no drama.
2513<Olivebirdy> If I understand correctly, Rhet is dating a private chat room. Good job!
2514<krahe> Vern|Pirate, http://u.kanobu.ru/comments/images/7a02057e-3a92-490a-976a-dd86a41d434c.gif
2515<Vern|Pirate> I hope this is SFW
2516<krahe> it is
2517<Rhetorical> I don't know if my parents will understand, Olive, but what we have it real
2518<cukier> It's not.
2519<Vern|Pirate> DUDE
2520<krahe> laughter
2521<Vern|Pirate> You sent a German a hitler gif!
2522• Olivebirdy: bro-fists Rhetorical.
2523<Vern|Pirate> The police will come now!
2524<Quanfinigon> it was nice knowing you
2525<krahe> don't care, russian
2526<Vern|Pirate> My mostly elaborate arguments will be aiding your plight, Rhet
2527<krahe> we allowed to make nazi jokes
2528<Vern|Pirate> In making that pack of rabid animals understand
2529<Vern|Pirate> Why exactly their behavior is wrong
2530<Vern|Pirate> And why you shouldn't advocate to such behavior
2531<Vern|Pirate> Also tell A she's a bitch and her daughter Linda will become a hooker.
2532<+Elara> chill out Vern
2533<Olivebirdy> >chill
2534<Olivebirdy> >Vern
2535<Rhetorical> A's dating my roommate from last year, Vern, if that makes you feel any better
2536<Vern|Pirate> ^
2537<Olivebirdy> I love Vern, but he's not going to chill.
2538<Vern|Pirate> Those kind of people
2539<Vern|Pirate> Who can't even see their mistake
2540<Vern|Pirate> Are the people that piss me off
2541<Vern|Pirate> I'm having a hard time being chill about this
2542<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2WzkgkufyE
2543<Vern|Pirate> Getting late for you, Wildbo, maybe you should tuck the pig in
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2545<Rhetorical> pig in a blanket
2546<Rhetorical> Hmm
2547• Vern|Pirate: shoves Rhet away
2548<Vern|Pirate> No cooking the bow
2549<Rhetorical> What if I add more drama to the Vern stew?
2550<Rhetorical> Like if I said A had a crush on me
2551<Vern|Pirate> That would be a lie :|
2552<Rhetorical> Not even
2553<Vern|Pirate> oh?
2554<Vern|Pirate> because if she did
2555<Rhetorical> She didn't tell me until like three months after we'd met, after she'd given up on my picking up hints and started being interested in my roommate, instead
2556<Vern|Pirate> Good riddance you didn't date that bitch
2557<Vern|Pirate> She's a bad person. She deserves the lesser option.
2558<Vern|Pirate> Rhet is obviously only for top-tier girls :|
2559<Rhetorical> If only any of them liked me
2560<Vern|Pirate> See
2561<+Elara> aww Rhet. didja like A?
2562<Vern|Pirate> That's your issue
2563<Vern|Pirate> You gotta do the first step
2564<Rhetorical> Eh, not really my type, either
2565<Vern|Pirate> Go to the next girl you are attracted to and say "Hey, *name* let's date"
2566<Rhetorical> Very smol, cutesy
2567<Rhetorical> Vern: I'll take a screenshot and post it here, when I do
2568<Vern|Pirate> No. Be a good person.
2569<Vern|Pirate> Be better, Rhet.
2570<+Elara> Rhet likes not-smol not-cute girls?
2571<Rhetorical> Smol is okay
2572<Rhetorical> Just maybe not that smol
2573<Rhetorical> And cutesy is the wrong word
2574<Rhetorical> I dunno
2575<+Elara> Rhet not a Madison fan
2576<Rhetorical> People are weird
2577<Vern|Pirate> Rhet does not like women who are bigger than him
2578<Teruzi> man types are so weird
2579<Teruzi> I think my type is pretty much "dude that's available and not repulsive"
2580<Rhetorical> I could tell you the tale of Clare
2581<+Elara> my type is tall, athletic. tallest girl I've dated more than twice is 5'5"
2582<Teruzi> how tall is your girl?
2583<+Elara> types mislead you :P
2584<Teruzi> also you seem tall enough yourself?
2585<+Elara> my partner now is 5'3"
2586<Teruzi> like me!
2587<Teruzi> hooray
2588<Teruzi> types are good for one night stands, ya know
2589<Teruzi> but make poor standards for more involved relationships
2590<+Elara> oh, sure, one night stands. for relationships types are more likely to lead you astray
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2592• Vern|Pirate: likes really long hair
2593<Rhetorical> Types include personality, too
2594<Rhetorical> ++Vern
2595<+Elara> really long hair so impractical
2596<Teruzi> it gets fucking everywhere
2597<Teruzi> my roomie has long ass hair
2598<Rhetorical> Not so much beyond a certain point, I guess
2599<Vern|Pirate> Guys
2600<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2601<Rhetorical> But nice hair is very nice
2602<+Elara> that's gonna lead you, primarily, towards feminine or girly-girls
2603<Teruzi> and I found it all over the place
2604<Vern|Pirate> Oh no, I like short hair as well
2605<Rhetorical> Clare has nice hair
2606<+Elara> Rhet Clare story?
2607<Teruzi> aight
2608<+Elara> tell
2609<Rhetorical> Elara pls
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2611<Rhetorical> It's 5 am
2612<Teruzi> if you wanna tell it so much
2613<Teruzi> just tell it
2614<Teruzi> oh shit
2615<Luminifera> help
2616<Vern|Pirate> Don't pretend you are going to sleep, Rhet
2617• Rhetorical: hugs Lumi
2618<Teruzi> Lumi
2619<Vern|Pirate> Just tell us
2620<+Elara> you said you could like 5 mins ago :P
2621<Teruzi> what do you need?
2622<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
2623<Vern|Pirate> Rhet's heart was broken
2624<Luminifera> im in bed and I can't get up
2625<Vern|Pirate> You need to heal him
2626<+Elara> Luminifera what's up? *hug*
2627<Luminifera> I got the opposite of Rhets problem
2628<Luminifera> hahah
2629<Luminifera> I'm too lazy
2630<Luminifera> I had a crazy dream
2631<Vern|Pirate> two mean girls were mean to him
2632<Rhetorical> That is so not the opposite of my problem
2633<Vern|Pirate> And made fun of him#
2634• Elara: prods Lumi to GTF out of bed
2635<Rhetorical> That is like my exact problem
2636• Luminifera: hugs Rhetorical
2637<Luminifera> I'm don't wanna get up, you don't wanna go to sleep
2638<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2639<Luminifera> sounds like opposites to me
2640<Vern|Pirate> Imagine Lumi came to your place
2641<Rhetorical> Laziness
2642<+Elara> then again IRCcloud tells me you've only been logged off for 6 hours bae
2643<Rhetorical> Yes Vern
2644<Rhetorical> Imagining
2645<Vern|Pirate> ANd you showed all your friends in he group a pic of you
2646<Luminifera> okay. you come here to sleep. and then shove me off the bed.
2647<Luminifera> there
2648<+Elara> maybe not enough sleep for Luminiferifera?
2649<Vern|Pirate> And said that's your girlfriend
2650<Vern|Pirate> I got no need for bitches who don't know the word "privacy"
2651<Luminifera> yes enough sleep, lemme see,
2652<Luminifera> from... uh...
2653<Rhetorical> Wait, tell them Lumi is my girlfriend?
2654<Luminifera> 11 to 7 is 8 hours
2655<Teruzi> Lumi do you have class?
2656<Vern|Pirate> Yes Rhet
2657<Luminifera> vern
2658<Rhetorical> They'd want to meet her
2659<Teruzi> that idea is so fucking bad
2660<Teruzi> I cannot explain
2661<Teruzi> how unnecessary
2662<Teruzi> adn contrived
2663<Teruzi> it is
2664<Luminifera> they'd just think rhet is a loser who has an internet girlfriend
2665<Teruzi> he could just be honest
2666<+Elara> huh, IRCcloud lies to me
2667<Vern|Pirate> That's why I said visiting
2668<Luminifera> why elata
2669<Rhetorical> Elara: add two hours for auto-disconnect to happen
2670<Luminifera> elara*
2671<Rhetorical> Only if you pay for her plane ticket, Vern
2672<Rhetorical> :P
2673<Luminifera> dollars are soooo expensive
2674<Luminifera> Jesus fucking christmas
2675<Rhetorical> mr crae
2676<Teruzi> yeah Lumi
2677<Teruzi> he's gone Rhet
2678<Luminifera> americans
2679<Rhetorical> You know what, I don't have classes for nine more hours
2680<Luminifera> get your economy together
2681<Luminifera> yes
2682<Rhetorical> I can stay up longer
2683<+Elara> Lumi, stop (justifiably) complaining about Americans
2684<Luminifera> go to sleep
2685<Luminifera> sbekdbabfksl
2686<+Elara> Rhet, tell us the story of Clare
2687<Luminifera> true elara
2688<VereorPirate> Clareeeee
2689<Rhetorical> Lumi, should I tell them about Clare?
2690<Teruzi> anyways, Lumi
2691<Luminifera> its our economy thats going to hell
2692<Teruzi> I have to leave like
2693<Teruzi> right now
2694<+Elara> everybody sort your fucking lives out and let me get back to pretending to work while I wait to hear from recruiters
2695<Teruzi> we could leave together!
2696<Luminifera> rhet how should I know?? it's your story not mine haha
2697<Rhetorical> Very well
2698<Luminifera> tuzi hell yes
2699<Teruzi> wait fuck
2700<VereorPirate> I should tell some of my drama stories sometime
2701<Luminifera> wait isn't it like
2702<Luminifera> 6 am for you tuzi
2703<Teruzi> I don't wanna miss the story
2704<Teruzi> 7
2705<Teruzi> class in an hour
2706<Luminifera> wow
2707<Luminifera> we have the same hours
2708<Teruzi> have exactly 30 minutes to shower and eay
2709<Luminifera> bless you
2710<Luminifera> haha
2711<Rhetorical> Go away Tuzi
2712<Teruzi> I might have to skip eating
2713<+Elara> Tuzi...
2714<Teruzi> yes
2715<Teruzi> and yet
2716<Teruzi> fuck you
2717<+Elara> have a nap, skip eating, I can send you logs later
2718<Teruzi> I leave when I want
2719<Teruzi> but then
2720<Luminifera> I have class in 30 minutes, and I'm home and in bed.
2721<Rhetorical> I will og it
2722<Teruzi> I'm sooo late
2723<VereorPirate> I'll keep logs for you, Teruzi
2724<+Elara> <3
2725<Rhetorical> *log
2726<Teruzi> haha, no nap
2727<Rhetorical> LUMI GET UP
2728<Teruzi> 30 minutes to get there
2729<Teruzi> oh well
2730<+Elara> Lumi, you've been doing well lately. go to class!
2731<Luminifera> I'll try to get to the second class
2732<Luminifera> mmmm
2733<Luminifera> =w=
2734<Luminifera> bed is so cozy.
2735<VereorPirate> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6JYzOjglBs
2736<VereorPirate> For Lumi
2737• Rhetorical: pushes Lumi out of bed
2738• Luminifera: falls unceremoniously on the ground
2739<Luminifera> bluh
2740<Rhetorical> Yay!
2741<Luminifera> fine
2742<Rhetorical> I mean, sorry!
2743<Luminifera> brb u guise
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2746<+Elara> ayy panth
2747<Yewnyx> good night all
2748<Rhetorical> Hmm
2749<Rhetorical> I'm wondering how far back to start
2750<VereorPirate> Start at the meeting
2751<VereorPirate> How did you meet Clare?
2752<Rhetorical> Very well
2753<Rhetorical> So, I used to be very socially inept
2754<Rhetorical> Like, very
2755<Rhetorical> Er, I need to start earlier
2756<Rhetorical> I was homeschooled from first grade to the end of high school
2757<VereorPirate> aight, that we know, you once told us
2758pantherasapiens is now known as panth
2759<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: i didn't know that
2760<panth> Ayyy Elara
2761<VereorPirate> Shush, Yewnyx
2762<VereorPirate> Let him continue
2763<panth> So Siberian is a Remote but acts as a Troll
2764<panth> I like
2765• Yewnyx: sleeps
2766<panth> Also I really want to know all about the original Cogent, Varlet, Troll, etc xD
2767<panth> Also hey krahe
2768<VereorPirate> Shut up, panth, we're having an important conversation here
2769<+Elara> maybe as snips, one day panth. now shh, Rhet's telling a story
2770<panth> Ohhhhh right right
2771<Rhetorical> Starting in the fall of 2010, I attended One Day Academy, which is a co-op thingy for homeschoolers, so that kids can learn things that their parents might not be able to teach them that well, like science, math, etc.
2772<Rhetorical> You attend classes one day a week, with teachers and everything
2773<krahe> hey panth
2774<Rhetorical> One of the classes I took was a Worldview class, which was a combination of Language, Literature, History, and Philosophy
2775<Rhetorical> Er, fall of 2009
2776<Rhetorical> Which would be the year before high school
2777<VereorPirate> And there you met Clare?
2778<Rhetorical> In this class was a girl named Clare
2779<Rhetorical> Who I though was very pretty, and quickly started crushing on
2780<Rhetorical> *thought
2781<krahe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnSaBI1U_24 amv, good one
2782<panth> Rhetorical: ...was it reciprocal? ;o
2783<Rhetorical> panth no skipping ahead
2784<Rhetorical> Now, me being the socially inept homeschooled teenager that I was, decided the best course of action would be to not talk to her
2785<Rhetorical> Other than saying hi at the start of class sometimes, and engaging in class discussion
2786<Rhetorical> This continued for most of the year
2787<Rhetorical> I talked to her a bit every now and then
2788<Luminifera> my sneakers are soooo dirty.
2789<Luminifera> oh. never mind. I'll keep quiet. o:
2790<Rhetorical> Starting in the first or second year of high school, I made an effort to talk to her a little more, but never really went anywhere with it
2791<Rhetorical> I got to know her better
2792<Rhetorical> Met her parents, stuff like that
2793<Rhetorical> The Worldview class, by the way, is actually a series of four year-long classes
2794<Rhetorical> So we're still in the same class throughout this
2795<Rhetorical> The third year of high school, the guy who prepares the Worldview curriculum for all the classes in Texas decides to host a historical costume ball for all the Worldview students
2796<Rhetorical> Or rather, I think he'd done this every year, but this was the first one our classes decided to go to
2797<Rhetorical> *our class
2798<Rhetorical> So we had dance lessons as a class
2799<Rhetorical> I got to dance with Clare a few times, which was fun
2800<Rhetorical> We went to the ball, I danced with a few people I knew, a few people I didn't, and with Clare once
2801<Rhetorical> The same year, I helped tutor Clare in a couple subjects
2802<Rhetorical> Maths and physics
2803<Rhetorical> So we got to know each other still better
2804<Rhetorical> She invites me to her birthday party, I go
2805<Rhetorical> I invite her to my birthday party, she can't make it
2806<Rhetorical> Throughout all of this I still have a fairly large crush on her
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2808<Rhetorical> Ah, forgot about Henry
2809<Rhetorical> Henry was my best friend from church, whom I met when we were around 12
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2811<Rhetorical> His dad taught the Worldview classes
2812<Rhetorical> So he was in those classes with me and Clare, as well as a few other classes
2813<Rhetorical> So at the end of my third year of high school, my circle of friends included Henry, Henry's brother Andrew, Clare, and maybe one or two others
2814<Rhetorical> I graduated high school a year early
2815<Rhetorical> I spend the year in between graduating and starting uni doing not much of anything
2816<Rhetorical> Worked out on my family's property some
2817<Rhetorical> Made sure all my uni stuff was in order
2818<Rhetorical> Lots of video games
2819<Rhetorical> :|
2820<panth> The thing where you go to her birthday parties but not vice-versa lasted all the way from (year before high school) to (end of third year of high school), then?
2821<Rhetorical> I went to two of hers
2822<Rhetorical> I didn't have a party one year, and the second year she couldn't make it
2823<Rhetorical> And then the year after both our birthdays were after uni started
2824<Rhetorical> So, at the end of that year, Henry and Clare graduate from high school, and then we start uni in the fall
2825<Rhetorical> Clare and I go to Texas A&M
2826<Rhetorical> Henry thought about A&M, but ended up going to West Point, instead
2827<Rhetorical> First week after we move into uni, there are no classes
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2829<Grist> yo
2830<Grist> Nope. Gonna need another client.
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2832<Rhetorical> So I text Clare, asking her if we could get lunch and catch up after having not seen each other for essentially a year (other than a few hours at a time maybe twice during the summer)
2833<Rhetorical> (at the suggestion of my dad)
2834<Rhetorical> I'd been slowly getting better at the whole social thing, so I thought I was up to the challenge of lunch with her
2835<Rhetorical> She didn't answer
2836<Vern|Pirate> Nooooo
2837<Rhetorical> I got in touch with her later, and she said she'd been busy
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2839<Vern|Pirate> Busy doing what?!
2840<panth> Ha your daddy's a matchmaker
2841<Vern|Pirate> Planning a wedding?!
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2843<Rhetorical> Shh
2844<Rhetorical> So the rest of the semester goes by without too much contact
2845<Rhetorical> I ask her if she wants to go to a football game
2846<Rhetorical> She says she's already going with a group, but she'll ask a mutual friend of our if she wants to join us for the next game
2847<Rhetorical> I say great
2848<Rhetorical> She doesn't respond
2849<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2850<Rhetorical> I text her the day we have to get tickets, and she says she has to go with her roommate because it's her roommates birthday
2851<Rhetorical> (I didn't realize how much Vern is going to like this story)
2852<Luminifera> hahaha
2853<Vern|Pirate> ,
2854<Luminifera> he's going to thoroughly enjoy it
2855<Rhetorical> Anyways, the semester ends
2856<Luminifera> go on tell him already
2857<Rhetorical> Shh
2858<Luminifera> xD
2859<Rhetorical> Lumi go to class
2860<panth> Vern|Pirate is enjoying how much it mirrors /his/ life
2861<Luminifera> hahaha
2862<Rhetorical> Christmas break
2863<panth> Also hey Lumi
2864<Rhetorical> Not much happens
2865<Vern|Pirate> Fuck you, panth
2866• Luminifera: whispers "Hi panth!"
2867<Rhetorical> For Christmas, I get a gift certificate for dance lessons with a group that's associated with the university
2868<panth> From dad?
2869<Rhetorical> From parents
2870<Rhetorical> For which I have to bring a partner
2871<panth> ...did they also coincidentally give her a gift certificate for the same group or... oh.
2872<panth> Ahahahaha.
2873<Vern|Pirate> S-so...
2874<Vern|Pirate> Clare
2875<Rhetorical> The certificate covers the couple, but I still have to find a partner
2876<Rhetorical> So I think
2877<Rhetorical> Er
2878<Rhetorical> I missed a part
2879<Rhetorical> Back to the summer before uni started
2880<Rhetorical> I had been thinking about why I was so bad at talking to Clare
2881<Rhetorical> and people in general
2882<Vern|Pirate> Because homeschooling sucks?
2883<Rhetorical> And during that first fall semester, I'd realized that I probably needed to get over my crush
2884<Rhetorical> I just try to be friends with Clare
2885<Rhetorical> *and just
2886• Vern|Pirate: gives Rhet the porn therapy
2887<Rhetorical> Back to just after Christmas
2888<Rhetorical> Uni has started up again
2889<panth> The German porn therapy? O_O
2890<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
2891<Rhetorical> I think
2892<panth> Also - I must run home, somebody gimme logs later~
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2894<Rhetorical> "I'll invite Clare to the dance lessons. We've been to dance lessons before, so it won't be an obvious date thing."
2895<Rhetorical> or something along those lines
2896<Rhetorical> So I invite her
2897<Rhetorical> She has tickets to a concert on the day of the first lesson, and a uni event on the day of the second
2898<Rhetorical> (there are four lessons)
2899<Rhetorical> But, she says she can make it to the third lesson
2900<Vern|Pirate> She didn't make it to the third? :[
2901<Rhetorical> Which I didn't think would be a problem, because she was already familiar with this style of dance, and we could get there early so the instructors could help her review
2902<Luminifera> what the fuck is porn therapy
2903<Rhetorical> I take another friend of mine to the first two lessons, to whom I have explained my plight and who has agreed to have Clare go to the third lesson
2904<Rhetorical> (this, incidentally, is A from the last tale)
2905<Rhetorical> The first two lessons go well
2906<Rhetorical> A is a pretty good dancer
2907<Rhetorical> I suggested meeting Clare before hand so I could review what we had covered in the first two lessons, but I don't remember my own steps well enough, let alone her part, so it ends awkwardly and we decide to do the instructor review thing instead
2908<Rhetorical> Now, it is the day of the third lesson
2909<Rhetorical> I meet Clare, and we start walking to the lesson together
2910<Rhetorical> We make a bit of small talk
2911<Rhetorical> How are classes going, etc.
2912<Rhetorical> Then she asks me
2913<Rhetorical> "You know Henry and I were in a relationship, right?"
2914<Rhetorical> I do not know this
2915<Rhetorical> Somehow my best friend and a friend I've known for 3.5 year were in a seven month relationship and I never knew about it
2916<Rhetorical> *years
2917<Rhetorical> I say that I didn't know
2918<Rhetorical> We walk a bit more, and she asks if I was surprised (since I took a bit of time in answering)
2919<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2920<Vern|Pirate> Give me Henry's number
2921<Vern|Pirate> I need to talk to him
2922<Rhetorical> I say no, because I really should have noticed that they had liked each other in high school, but I am kinda surprised
2923<Rhetorical> Vern no
2924<Rhetorical> I'm not done yet
2925<Rhetorical> We continue on to the lesson
2926<Rhetorical> I'm thinking about this while the instructors help Clare catch up
2927<Rhetorical> The lesson is about to start, and there's an opportunity for everyone to warm up, if they like.
2928<Rhetorical> I ask Clare if she wants to dance to warm up
2929<Rhetorical> She says no
2930<Rhetorical> I'm still distracted by the revelation, so I say okay and watch the other dancers with her
2931<Rhetorical> Lesson starts
2932<Rhetorical> Goes pretty well
2933<Rhetorical> Clare's an alright dancer
2934<Rhetorical> Lesson ends
2935<Rhetorical> I walk Clare back to her dorm
2936<Rhetorical> She gives me a hug, wishes me goodnight, and goes to her room
2937<Rhetorical> I go to mine
2938<Rhetorical> Thus ends the day of the third lesson
2939<Rhetorical> I take A to the fourth lesson, and all goes well
2940<Rhetorical> There's a second set of lessons starting in a couple weeks
2941<Rhetorical> I ask Clare if she wants to go to them
2942<Rhetorical> She says no
2943<Rhetorical> I say okay
2944<Vern|Pirate> You're tearing me apart, Rhet
2945<Rhetorical> I ask A, she says yes
2946<Rhetorical> I see Clare with a mutual friend at the dining hall a few days later, I say hi, wait a bit to see if they'll invite me to join them, then continue walking when they don't
2947<@Mishie> wat
2948<Rhetorical> Mishie pls
2949<Rhetorical> I'm relating my tale of woe
2950<Vern|Pirate> I'm renouncing my earlier call
2951<Vern|Pirate> Maybe A would have been less of a bitch if you had not tried for Clare
2952<Rhetorical> This was after A was dating my roommate
2953<Vern|Pirate> THAT IS NO EXCUSE
2954<Rhetorical> I find out the next set of dance lessons are on a different day and at a different time
2955<Rhetorical> So I let Clare know, in case it was a time conflict with the previous days and times
2956<Rhetorical> She says no before I tell her when the new dates are, saying she really needs to focus on her studies
2957<Rhetorical> After all, finals are coming up
2958<Vern|Pirate> Oh god
2959<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2960<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2961<Vern|Pirate> This physically pains me
2962<@Mishie> is this the sad tale
2963<Vern|Pirate> Please tell me there is some kind of happy end to this
2964<@Mishie> of Rhetorical crashing and burning
2965<@Mishie> over and over
2966<@Mishie> and over
2967<Vern|Pirate> Yes
2968<Vern|Pirate> Yes
2969<Vern|Pirate> Yes it is
2970<Vern|Pirate> And I'm feeling this pain, Mishie
2971<Rhetorical> A few days later, I'm stressed because of finals as well, because I've found out I'm pretty much going to fail one of my courses no matter what, which means I'll lose my scholarship
2972<Rhetorical> I can't sleep one night, and go for a walk at around 1 am
2973<Vern|Pirate> Please tell me you didn't lose your scholarship
2974<Rhetorical> Not yet
2975<Vern|Pirate> :(
2976<Rhetorical> I'm on probation
2977<Rhetorical> :|
2978<Vern|Pirate> Ok good
2979<+Elara> what happened on this walk, Rhet?
2980<Rhetorical> I get back to my dorm at around 2 am
2981<Vern|Pirate> You need to concentrate more on your studies and less on girls, Rhet :|
2982<Rhetorical> My dorm is one of four that's attached to a common area
2983<Rhetorical> In this common area, there are food places, a mini shop for groceries and the like, ping pong tables, billiards tables, etc.
2984<Rhetorical> And
2985<Rhetorical> at 2 am
2986<Rhetorical> just before finals
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2988<Vern|Pirate> If you say
2989<Vern|Pirate> That she was on your door
2990<Rhetorical> at the ping pong tables
2991<Vern|Pirate> Oh okay
2992<Vern|Pirate> Go on
2993<Rhetorical> after saying she couldn't go to weekend dance lessons at 7 pm because she needed to study
2994<Rhetorical> there stands Clare
2995<Rhetorical> playing ping pong
2996<Rhetorical> at 2 am on a school night
2997<Rhetorical> It's at this point that I catch on
2998<+Elara> did this finally smack you upside the head with a cluebat Rhet?
2999<Rhetorical> She's been avoiding me
3000<+Elara> ehe
3001<Rhetorical> Yes, I'm very bad at hints
3002<Luminifera> oh my god boys are so whiny!!!!! :/ I've had boys do much worse things than this to me, and I'm not whining here, am I? (ignore all the previous and possible future whinings)
3003<Rhetorical> Lumi pls
3004<Rhetorical> Go to class
3005<Vern|Pirate> ^
3006<krahe> ftl is great
3007<Vern|Pirate> Huh
3008<Vern|Pirate> I just realized
3009<Vern|Pirate> Grist is in Berlin
3010<Vern|Pirate> His IP is from the Freie Universität
3011<@Mishie> [21:04]    Rhetorical  She's been avoiding me
3012<@Mishie> hahahahahahaha
3013<@Mishie> hahahahahahahaaha
3014<+Elara> so, is this the end of the story Rhet? or is there more crashing and burning to come?
3015<Rhetorical> Oh, there's more
3016<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, pls
3017<Luminifera> I'm on my way to a bus I won't be able to get because it'll be too crowded
3018<Rhetorical> It's time for me to make a bad decision
3019<Rhetorical> Like, a really bad decision
3020<Luminifera> now I'm still waiting in a line for the next bus to come, which I'll hopefully get
3021<@Mishie> isn't it always?
3022<+Elara> O.o
3023<@Mishie> but yeah
3024<Rhetorical> So, I'm sleep-deprived, stressed because of finals, and upset that Clare has been avoiding me after I specifically decided to get over my crush on her
3025• Vern|Pirate: braces
3026<Luminifera> keep in mind this is the biggest bus... on this country
3027<@Mishie> as long as you kept your pants on
3028<@Mishie> during said bad decision
3029<Luminifera> omg mishie
3030<Rhetorical> So I get an awesome idea
3031<+Elara> "get over" by asking her to dancing lessons with you. Rhet pls
3032<Rhetorical> Yeah, I know
3033<Rhetorical> Hush
3034<Rhetorical> I've already beat myself up over this
3035<Rhetorical> Also, that's what Lumi said
3036<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
3037<Vern|Pirate> Write an autobiography
3038<@Mishie> is this what happens when we let mormons out into the real world?
3039<Rhetorical> Do you want to hear my awesome idea?
3040<Luminifera> hahaha mishie stop making me laugh
3041<Luminifera> I do, tell me rhey
3042<Luminifera> rhet*
3043<Vern|Pirate> YES
3044<Vern|Pirate> TELL ME
3045<Rhetorical> I decide that I will say to her, "You've been avoiding me. Did I do something wrong?"
3046<Luminifera> vern is shoving all the popcorn into his mouth, voraciously.
3047<Rhetorical> So I text her and arrange a meeting
3048<Rhetorical> And I get the first part out
3049<Rhetorical> and I freeze up
3050<@Mishie> jesus
3051<Luminifera> it was winter
3052<Vern|Pirate> Rhet no
3053<Vern|Pirate> Rhet why
3054<Vern|Pirate> Why rhet
3055<Luminifera> as you know winter in Texas is very cold
3056<Luminifera> freezing, even
3057<Rhetorical> She says she hasn't meant to avoid me, that she's just been busy
3058<Rhetorical> Her next class starts in fifteen minutes, so she has to leave no
3059<Rhetorical> now
3060<Rhetorical> That wasn't even the bad decision
3061<Rhetorical> So now I'm mad at myself for freezing up
3062<Rhetorical> I'm mad at her for lying, since she's obviously avoiding me
3063<Rhetorical> So I get a bright idea
3064<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
3065<Rhetorical> If I can't say it to her in person
3066<Rhetorical> I'll write her an email
3067<Rhetorical> Which, to my credit was not angry-sounding, and only a little accusative
3068<Vern|Pirate> Noooooo
3069<Rhetorical> In which I listed a few of the times she had clearly avoided me, so she can't deny it now, and ask if I did anything I need to apologize for.
3070<Rhetorical> (the irony is not lost on me)
3071<Luminifera> hahaha
3072<Luminifera> listening to you telling these things
3073<Luminifera> boys sound so a lie
3074<Luminifera> alien*
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3076<Rhetorical> She responded a couple days later
3077<@Mishie> Luminifera: no see, it's just that Rhetorical is a derp
3078<Rhetorical> ^
3079<Rhetorical> ^^
3080<@Mishie> don't make any assumptions about guys
3081<@Mishie> based on Rhetorical
3082<Vern|Pirate> Probably after asking Henry ß‘
3083<@Mishie> he is very much so an anomaly
3084<+Elara> Rhet was definitely a derp in this instance. <3 you Rhet, but you derped out pretty badly in this saga
3085<Rhetorical> Funny you should say that, Vern
3086<@Mishie> in every sense of the word
3087<Rhetorical> I know Elara
3088<Rhetorical> It's so obvious in retrospect
3089<@Mishie> tl;dr
3090<@Mishie> Rhetorical evolved into Rhetnote
3091<Rhetorical> Her response included a few things
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3093<@Mishie> like how you're a creepy stalker?
3094<Vern|Pirate> Write an autobiography man. The cringe compilation by Rhet
3095<Rhetorical> For one, when she had broken up with Henry at the start of the fall before, it hit her hard
3096<Rhetorical> So much so that it made her physically uncomfortable to be around couples doing couple things
3097<Luminifera> I make a lot of assumptions about guys based on vern
3098<Luminifera> :D
3099<Rhetorical> Like, for instance, dancing
3100<Vern|Pirate> Did your know they broke up?
3101<Vern|Pirate> Shut up, Lumi
3102<Rhetorical> I knew that it ended sometime between the middle of summer and the start of uni
3103<Rhetorical> I didn't know the circumstances
3104<Rhetorical> Also, this breakup had left her wanting to not engage in any more relationships for quite some time
3105<Luminifera> oh boy
3106<Rhetorical> Which is, of course, entirely understandable
3107<Luminifera> tell him Rhet
3108<Vern|Pirate> Tell me
3109<Vern|Pirate> Tell me Rhet
3110<Rhetorical> And she thought I was trying to talk to her to get together with her
3111<Vern|Pirate> Tell me she turned lesbian or something
3112<Rhetorical> Which again, is somewhat understandable
3113<Rhetorical> Pm me, Lumi
3114<Rhetorical> which part?
3115• Vern|Pirate: is waiting
3116<Rhetorical> Also she mentioned that the two guys she was playing ping pong with had made it very clear they were not interested in her romantically
3117<Rhetorical> So she felt safe around them
3118<Rhetorical> Implying that she did not feel safe around me
3119<Vern|Pirate> So
3120<Rhetorical> :\
3121<Vern|Pirate> Rhet is a sexual predator
3122<krahe> http://craziestgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/julius-caesar-knife-block.jpg
3123<Rhetorical> Anyways, that was six months ago
3124<Rhetorical> The end
3125<krahe> simply genius
3126<Vern|Pirate> What a bitch
3127<@Mishie> [21:20]    Rhetorical  Implying that she did not feel safe around me
3128<krahe> >knife block
3129<Rhetorical> Yeah, Mishie
3130<Vern|Pirate> You dodged a bullet there, man. She probably had syphilis or something.
3131<Rhetorical> I have three younger sisters
3132<Rhetorical> A girl saying she doesn't feel safe around me hurts
3133<Vern|Pirate> Or a puffy vagina
3134<Luminifera> tick
3135<Luminifera> tock
3136<Luminifera> tick
3137<Luminifera> tock
3138<Rhetorical> Lumi, I'm not sure what part you're talking about
3139<Rhetorical> PM me
3140<Luminifera> don't talk shit about my genitals vern
3141<Luminifera> I will cut you
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3143<Vern|Pirate> Lumi has a puffy vagina confirmed.
3144<Vern|Pirate> Hi Megafire
3145<Vern|Pirate> Okay, that was a show of trust
3146<Rhetorical> Thus ends the tale of Rhet and Clare
3147<Megafire> Wow.
3148<Megafire> What a sentence to join the channel on.
3149<Vern|Pirate> I'll give you one of my stories in exchange when I'm home again, Rhet
3150<Megafire> Sup Vern.
3151<Rhetorical> In which everyone fucks up
3152<@Mishie> Rhetorical: no uh
3153<@Mishie> it was just you man
3154<Rhetorical> I dunno
3155<Rhetorical> I blame Henry, too
3156<krahe> chat is weird today
3157<krahe> not the weirdest
3158<Rhetorical> Maybe I should call him up and yell at him
3159<krahe> but still
3160<@Mishie> Rhetorical
3161<@Mishie> how many of your problems have you caused
3162<@Mishie> by doing things
3163<Rhetorical> Just this one, really
3164<Rhetorical> I like to think I've learned from it
3165<Luminifera> I have no idea what a puffy vagina even is
3166<Rhetorical> You know
3167<Rhetorical> saying that
3168<Luminifera> and it sounds very anatomically improbable, given that the vagina is a tube
3169<Rhetorical> will get you pictures in PM
3170<Rhetorical> I'm assuming he's talking about the labia
3171<Rhetorical> Oh yeah
3172<Rhetorical> I found out how Henry and Clare broke up
3173<Vern|Pirate> Someone tell Grist he should try irc cloud in case I don't see him coming back?
3174<Vern|Pirate> I need to talk to him
3175<Rhetorical> Through my mom, who heard it from someone, who heard it from someone
3176<Luminifera> ^
3177<@Mishie> Luminifera: go google it
3178<Rhetorical> So Clare, Clare's family, and Henry's family flew up to New York, where Henry is at Uni
3179<Luminifera> nope I won't :P I bet vern meant puffy labia, probably infected.
3180<Rhetorical> For some sort of promise thingy
3181<Rhetorical> Like a mini-engagement, I think
3182<Rhetorical> Some Christian Courtship thing
3183<Luminifera> and I definitely will not discuss anatomical details of my genitalia on this chat
3184<Luminifera> rhet what's Christian courtship.?
3185<Luminifera> cause the name sounds adorable
3186<Rhetorical> Alternative to dating
3187<Rhetorical> Involving lots of parental supervision, I think, at least in some forms
3188<Rhetorical> Anyways
3189<Rhetorical> Henry got cold feet, apparently
3190<Rhetorical> And broke up with her right then
3191• Rhetorical: pokes Elara
3192• Rhetorical: looks at the time
3193<Rhetorical> o_o
3194<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, I think Elara stopped caring :p
3195<Vern|Pirate> You're an adult
3196<Vern|Pirate> If you want to fail classes due to lack of sleep, that's your responsibility
3197<Rhetorical> Your encouragement is uplifting, Vern
3198<Vern|Pirate> But yeah, I'll offer you one of my shit stories to hear when you're more awake
3199<Rhetorical> Yeah, so those are the two big dramas of my life
3200<Rhetorical> One almost entirely my fault, the other not at all
3201<+Elara> I was on the phone bitches
3202<Rhetorical> <3
3203<+Elara> Rhet you are a derp, but probably better off not dating someone whose family are into Courtship
3204• Vern|Pirate: wonders if Grist will ever come back
3205<+Elara> that shit is pretty wacky
3206<Rhetorical> I think it's Henry's family that proposed it, but yeah
3207<Vern|Pirate> Think positively
3208<Rhetorical> I've all but given up on ever fixing this
3209<Vern|Pirate> Even if you have to lie to yourself
3210<Vern|Pirate> Henry probably got her prego and they had a secret abortion
3211<+Elara> fixing what Rhet?
3212soulpelt|sleep is now known as soulpelt|
3213<Rhetorical> I think I still need to apologize for being a derp
3214<Vern|Pirate> You don't. Not in full at least.  Part of the blame lies with Henry
3215<Rhetorical> I've called him once
3216<Luminifera> whenever I listen to 'as long as you're mine' I think of skrue and I laugh so much...
3217<Rhetorical> He had to go because he was at a uni-mandated event
3218<Luminifera> you do need to apologize anyway
3219<+Elara> Rhet no
3220<Luminifera> :/
3221<+Elara> no you don't
3222<+Elara> it's over
3223<Luminifera> not like, kneel at her and beg her for forgiveness
3224<Vern|Pirate> Rhet stahp
3225<+Elara> it's done
3226<Rhetorical> He called me again this past summer, neither of us mentioned anything
3227<Vern|Pirate> Rhet what r u doing
3228<Vern|Pirate> Rhet no
3229<Vern|Pirate> This is a clearly toxic environment, Rhet.
3230<+Elara> that is the way - if you still connect and get on with these people, Henry or Clare or both, do that
3231<Luminifera> just keep on good terms with her... say hey, sorry for that email. I hadn't known. I'll back off
3232<Vern|Pirate> You need better friends
3233<+Elara> don't try to bring it up
3234<Vern|Pirate> Like me
3235<Vern|Pirate> I'll tell you to get laid while also disliking relationships
3236<Rhetorical> I've said hi to her a few time when we've passed in hallways or on sidewalks
3237<Rhetorical> She's said hi back
3238<soulpelt|> ...
3239<Rhetorical> Don't scroll up, spelt
3240<Vern|Pirate> No Rhet
3241<Vern|Pirate> Just no
3242<Vern|Pirate> Stop it
3243<+Elara> Rhet go sleep
3244<soulpelt|> someone give me a tl;dr?
3245<Rhetorical> Rhet is a derp
3246<Vern|Pirate> I'm not going to tell you how to live your life
3247<+Elara> Rhet had a crush
3248<+Elara> it ended badly
3249<Rhetorical> In all things crush-related
3250<Luminifera> eh idk. I like full disclosure.
3251<soulpelt|> D:
3252<Vern|Pirate> But in this case I have to tell you how to live your life
3253<Luminifera> I like communication
3254<Luminifera> better than just letting things go by in awkward silences
3255<Rhetorical> Her response last spring did end with a "if you want to get coffee to talk about this, we can"
3256<Luminifera> and getting that bitter taste in your mouth whenever you remember what happened
3257<Rhetorical> I haven't taken her up on it yet
3258<Luminifera> :/
3259• Vern|Pirate: is trying to make a smiley with his tears on the floor
3260<Luminifera> vern you're so whiney.
3261• soulpelt|: is confused
3262<soulpelt|> I need food
3263<+Elara> too late now Rhet. either say "hey Clare wanna get coffee" or ignore it
3264<Vern|Pirate> I'm not, I just have an infected eye
3265<Luminifera> I bet you're infp or something like that
3266<Luminifera> but I never met such an insensitive infp. maybe you're just istp like I suspect...
3267<Rhetorical> On the bright side, this whole experience pretty much completely destroyed my crush
3268<Vern|Pirate> Good
3269<+Elara> \o/
3270<Vern|Pirate> Now you need strange fetishes
3271<Vern|Pirate> And you are a healthy young man
3272<Rhetorical> I mean, if I met her now, I'd probably still date her
3273<Rhetorical> But yeah
3274<Rhetorical> No more crush
3275<+Elara> now go get a crush on some girl and *ask her out* without going through this whole weird process
3276<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
3277<@Nae> lol
3278<Megafire> Damn, that was a really good Twig chapter.
3279<+Elara> (or some boy or non-binary or whatever, I ain't judging )
3280• Vern|Pirate: remembers the guy who asked 1000 random women on the he street if they wanted to have sex
3281<Vern|Pirate> 2 said yes.
3282<Rhetorical> O
3283<@Nae> he literally asked a thousand women?
3284<Rhetorical> I'm going to go with girl, I think, Elara
3285<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
3286<Vern|Pirate> There was a video and everything
3287<Vern|Pirate> He counted them
3288<@Nae> I mean of course 2 said yes - at some point it becomes a numbers game
3289<Vern|Pirate> German youtuber
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3291<Olivebirdy> Lot of effort
3292<@Nae> would've thought the number would be high tho
3293<Olivebirdy> Also, yeah.
3294<@Nae> at least 20
3295<@Nae> out of a 1000
3296<Megafire> Oh, I think 1 in 10 people will say 'yes' if you ask them out.
3297<+Elara> depends how creepy seeming he is Nae
3298<Megafire> Like, baseline.
3299<Vern|Pirate> Well, he only hit on attractive ones, I think
3300<@Nae> that would be 2%
3301<@Nae> doesn't matter Vern
3302<Vern|Pirate> He was not bad looking
3303<Rhetorical> Who was I discussing the preponderance of gingers among my crushes with?
3304<Rhetorical> Was it Panda?
3305<Olivebirdy> maybe he would have more luck shouting into bars?
3306<Vern|Pirate> But nothing stellar either
3307<@Nae> law of large numbers crushes attraction
3308<Rhetorical> Or was it Vern?
3309<Olivebirdy> "Somebody in here want to have sex?"
3310<Vern|Pirate> Not it
3311<Megafire> There was an SSC post on it.
3312<Rhetorical> Hmm
3313<Rhetorical> Because Clare is a redhead
3314<+Elara> Olive, the answer will be a shouted "Not with you darlin'", everyone laughs, the end
3315<Rhetorical> (for certain definitions of redhead)
3316<Vern|Pirate> Clare is also a bad person for you
3317<Vern|Pirate> Choose better women.
3318<Olivebirdy> Ooh, that would have bee a nice rejoinder,
3319<Vern|Pirate> Like Luminifera
3320<@Nae> yeah
3321<Luminifera> I imagine 998 girls felt very offended
3322<@Nae> choose girls in another continent
3323<@Nae> that'd work
3324<Olivebirdy> But then ice is broken, he comes in,then someone comes over to talk to him.
3325<Rhetorical> Yeah, great idea Vern
3326• Nae: looks at Vern
3327<Luminifera> honestly if a random guy on the street asked me to have sex with him,
3328<Vern|Pirate> Always works
3329<Rhetorical> Very practival
3330<Rhetorical> *practical
3331<Vern|Pirate> :|
3332<Luminifera> I think I'd start panicking.
3333<Olivebirdy> How different a reaction would you have if someone asked you for directions?
3334<Luminifera> it was panda
3335<Luminifera> and Clare looks blonde
3336<+Elara> I would say no to all the men asking me to have sex with them, so y'know, there's that
3337<Rhetorical> Hey Elara
3338<Luminifera> same lara
3339<Luminifera> what the hell
3340<Vern|Pirate> Would you say no to all women? ;D
3341<Luminifera> random stranger
3342<Rhetorical> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
3343<Olivebirdy> Elara, you are not in the target zone.
3344<Luminifera> elara is taken.
3345<Megafire> I'd say that to all the men, too.
3346<Luminifera> hello olive
3347<Olivebirdy> Hey Lumi
3348• Vern|Pirate: would say that to almost all men
3349<+Elara> hell no Vern, just most
3350<Megafire> And I'd probably reflexively say it to all women, too.
3351<@Nae> nobody asks me :'(
3352<Megafire> Because my immediate response is to not do anything weird.
3353<Olivebirdy> I would think about it a bit.
3354<Vern|Pirate> Because you're supposed to have an arranged marriage, Nae
3355<@Nae> what Olive means is: "I would judge based on how hot the person asking is"
3356<Vern|Pirate> Bollywood taught me that
3357<Olivebirdy> Hm, do I feel like having sex with this person?
3358<Rhetorical> Really though, Nae, who wouldn't?
3359<@Nae> yep
3360<@Nae> I know I would.
3361<@Nae> XD
3362<Vern|Pirate> Megafire: thing with women asking that is
3363<@Nae> Vern: D:
3364<@Nae> they never do?
3365<Vern|Pirate> Imagine they're trying to guilt you into taking care of the baby they're hiding!
3366<@Nae> lol
3367<Megafire> I'm autistic, Vern, that shit don't work on me.
3368<Megafire> I guilt-trip myself, I don't let others guilt-trip me.
3369<Vern|Pirate> Heh
3370<Rhetorical> It's like a superpower
3371<Rhetorical> Except not really
3372<Rhetorical> :\
3373<Megafire> Anyway, I feel your pain, Rhet.
3374<Luminifera> WHY would I have sex with a stranger
3375<Luminifera> 1: weird.
3376<Vern|Pirate> Come on Rhet
3377<Luminifera> 2: scary
3378<Vern|Pirate> You got us
3379<+Elara> if you were really horny Lumi
3380<Luminifera> 3: just no
3381<+Elara> ehe
3382<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
3383<Vern|Pirate> Your problem is
3384<Luminifera> 4: I'm not attracted to people I don't know
3385<Vern|Pirate> You are repulsed by all things sexual
3386<Olivebirdy> Okay, 'just no' is irrational.
3387<Luminifera> I'm just not
3388<Luminifera> vern
3389<Rhetorical> Hey Lumi
3390<Luminifera> ... I'm not gonna answer this
3391<Luminifera> :)
3392<Vern|Pirate> You're not the kind of person who fits into the scheme
3393<@Nae> sex with strangers can be a turn on tbh
3394<@Nae> depends entirely on the stranger
3395<+Elara> Vern you're rude
3396<Rhetorical> Depends on how you define stranger
3397<Vern|Pirate> All is okay until the two meter tall and super attractive guy asks you to call him daddy
3398<Rhetorical> ...
3399<@Nae> LOL
3400<Vern|Pirate> And even then it's okay if you're into that
3401<Olivebirdy> HAhaa
3402<Olivebirdy> :)
3403• Olivebirdy: sighs
3404<Olivebirdy> I'm bored.
3405<Rhetorical> Aaaand it's 7 in the morning
3406<Olivebirdy> Who wants to play a game?
3407<Vern|Pirate> Tell us about your first crush, Olivebirdy
3408<Olivebirdy> Hmm
3409<Olivebirdy> Let's see...
3410<Vern|Pirate> Was she Jewish?
3411<Olivebirdy> Never really had much of a crush on anyone, really.
3412<Vern|Pirate> ߇߇
3413<Megafire> Man, you are on a roll today, Vern.
3414<@Nae> this feels decidedly like a high school convo
3415<@Nae> also lies Olivebirdy
3416<Olivebirdy> There was a guy I used to blush aroud.
3417<@Nae> such lies
3418<Vern|Pirate> Some people aren't emotionless robots like you, nae
3419<Vern|Pirate> Some people can feel true love
3420<@Nae> oi
3421<Olivebirdy> And a couple of girls I wanted to be close to.
3422<@Nae> I've felt true love
3423<@Nae> or so I thought
3424<Olivebirdy> Other than that, not really.
3425<Vern|Pirate> With who? Rose Tyler?
3426<Vern|Pirate> :P
3427<@Nae> <_<
3428<@Nae> >_>
3429<Vern|Pirate> V.V
3430<@Nae> eh, it's been years. She's probably married now.
3431<Rhetorical> Alright
3432<@Nae> last I heard she was engaged
3433<Rhetorical> Bed time
3434<@Nae> sigh
3435<Rhetorical> o/
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3437<Vern|Pirate> Probably is
3438Rhetorical is now known as Rhet|sleep
3439<Vern|Pirate> David Tennant too... Sigh
3440<Olivebirdy> I mean, Lumi has described to me that a crush is like thinking about people all the time, making you happy...
3441<Vern|Pirate> Hi rid
3442<Olivebirdy> I've never been that into it.
3443<Vern|Pirate> No, that's not what a crush is
3444<@Nae> eh
3445<@Nae> kinda is
3446<@Nae> infatuation
3447<@Nae> you're always thinking about them
3448<@Nae> waiting for the phone to ring
3449<@Nae> etc etc
3450<Luminifera> 8:52 AM <Vern|Pirate> All is okay until the two meter tall and super attractive guy asks you to call him daddy
3451<Vern|Pirate> It seems Lumi jumps right over the slope into obsession :p
3452<Olivebirdy> Nope, not me.
3453<@Nae> puppy love basically
3454<Luminifera> then I'd say
3455<Luminifera> you're not my dad.
3456<Vern|Pirate> You should say 'daddy's bigger than you'
3457<Vern|Pirate> That'd teach him.
3458<Olivebirdy> Lumi is a very literal person.
3459<Luminifera> my dad is 183 cm tall
3460<Rhet|sleep> You should not say that
3461<Luminifera> thus not bigger
3462<Vern|Pirate> That's not what I meant :,^ ]
3463<Luminifera> and I stopped calling him daddy years ago
3464<Olivebirdy> I repeat, <Olivebirdy> Lumi is a very literal person.
3465<@Nae> XD
3466<@Nae> lolol
3467<@Nae> what Olivebirdy said
3468<@Nae> so literal
3469<Luminifera> what did you mean then?
3470<Vern|Pirate> True enough.
3471<Vern|Pirate> Lumi will never understand innuendo
3472<Olivebirdy> He meant penis size.
3473<@Nae> reminds me of Batista
3474<@Nae> in Guardians of the Galaxy
3475<Rhet|sleep> Nothing goes over my head
3476<Vern|Pirate> Things like this go right over Lumi's head
3477<Olivebirdy> I was thinking of Batista, from Dexter.
3478<Rhet|sleep> Bastila
3479<Rhet|sleep> from KoTOR
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3481<Olivebirdy> Gaaaame
3482<Rhet|sleep> Sleeep
3483<Rhet|sleep> o/
3484<Olivebirdy> bye
3485<Olivebirdy> o/
3486<@Nae> \o
3487<soulpelt|> \o/
3488<Olivebirdy> What do you guys know about New Orleans?
3489<@Nae> it's a shithole
3490<Olivebirdy> It is?
3491<Luminifera> our new philosophy teacher kinda looks like bow
3492<@Nae> also, known for Jazz
3493<Olivebirdy> All I know about it is that it is considered sexy, and that there ae drive-thru daiquiris.
3494<@Nae> what's a daiquiri
3495<+Elara> a rum based cocktail
3496<Vern|Pirate> Something Jewish I get
3497<Olivebirdy> Alchoholic slushy.
3498<Vern|Pirate> Bet
3499<+Elara> rum, lime and fruit juice
3500<Vern|Pirate> Jewish slushy
3501<Olivebirdy> ?
3502<@Nae> Vern stop being so German
3503<Olivebirdy> Not a slushy?
3504<@Nae> your Nazi ancestry is showing
3505<Vern|Pirate> Wow, ruse
3506<Vern|Pirate> Rude
3507<+Elara> it's Caribbean Vern you numpty, stop being Jewish-obsessed
3508<Olivebirdy> then what's the alcholic slushy called?
3509<Vern|Pirate> Stop being do British, you island ape.
3510<Vern|Pirate> >¦|
3511<+Elara> Olive it can have ice in it, anywhere from a couple of cubes to filling the glass, but the point of it is rum and fruit juice
3512• Elara: doesn't know, there are hundreds of cocktails
3513<@Nae> I need to learn more about drinks
3514<@Nae> and fine dining
3515<@Nae> every time I go out with rich friends, they have to recc me stuff
3516<Olivebirdy> So, the consensus is that nobody knows much about New Orleans.
3517<Vern|Pirate> Nobody gives a fuck about new Orleans, it seems.
3518<Vern|Pirate> Let's talk about more interesting places
3519<Olivebirdy> Also, I want an alchoholic slushy, though I would settle for a daiquiri.
3520<Vern|Pirate> Like Berlin
3521<+Elara> oh, missed your question there Olive
3522<@Nae> what's interesting in Berlin
3523<Vern|Pirate> Nothing
3524<Vern|Pirate> It's a pretty average city
3525<Vern|Pirate> Sure we got some gardens
3526<@Nae> https://i.imgur.com/7exuxg2.gifv
3527<Vern|Pirate> We got a bunch of nice buildings
3528<@Nae> Pope and Baby Pope
3529<@Nae> XD
3530<Vern|Pirate> But nothing you'd find nowhere else
3531<+Elara> I've heard New Orleans is a very interesting city, lovely bits, plenty of history, a lot of modern poverty and deprived bits
3532<Olivebirdy> So far, sounds pretty good for WD.
3533<Vern|Pirate> Still planning on your quest?
3534<Vern|Pirate> I recommend using a place you know more about
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3536<Olivebirdy> Thinking about it a bit.
3537<+Elara> being on the Mississippi and a major port, there's a lot of stuff going through
3538<Olivebirdy> How important is knowing the place well?
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3541<Vern|Pirate> Like drugs
3542<Olivebirdy> Smuggling?
3543<Vern|Pirate> Very
3544<+Elara> helps for giving it local flavour Olive
3545<Olivebirdy> Point.
3546<+Elara> visiting and paying attention would probably be good enough tho :P
3547<Olivebirdy> I could do an Israel one, but I don't want to get int all the stuff.
3548<Luminifera> ohhh
3549<Luminifera> why not?
3550<Olivebirdy> Also, I don't feel like getting lynched.
3551<Vern|Pirate> WD Auschwitz
3552<Olivebirdy> OI!
3553<Vern|Pirate> Why would you get lynched?
3554<+Elara> hahaha yes, avoiding Israel A+ excellent idea
3555<Luminifera> vern
3556<Luminifera> :/
3557<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
3558<Vern|Pirate> :V
3559<Olivebirdy> Vern, the Internet is a different place than Germany.
3560<+Elara> either that or worldbuild an alternative Scion-caused history of Israel-Palestine that leads to a majorly different situation to OTL
3561<Olivebirdy> ...More Nazis, for one :v
3562<+Elara> but honestly that sounds like a fuck of a lot of work
3563<Megafire> Yes.
3564<Megafire> Too much of it.
3565<Olivebirdy> I could do that, /if/ 'bow were willing to give me more WoG.\
3566<Vern|Pirate> Okay, I redact my earlier statement just run WD Israel on Anonkun.com
3567<Olivebirdy> Fuck no!
3568<Vern|Pirate> :P
3569<Olivebirdy> >:(
3570<Vern|Pirate> But the anonymity
3571<Olivebirdy> hahahaa
3572<Olivebirdy> It would be hilarious, though....
3573<Vern|Pirate> WD Auschwitz is the alternative
3574<Olivebirdy> oh god, Vern, why do you do this to me?
3575<Vern|Pirate> Also, general rule of thumb for WD
3576<Olivebirdy> Also, fuck off, Vern.
3577<Vern|Pirate> Make some shit up
3578<Vern|Pirate> Make a lot of shit up
3579<Olivebirdy> Good plan.
3580<Vern|Pirate> Because wildbow is generally trolling
3581<+Elara> you don't need WoG from 'Bow Olive
3582<Vern|Pirate> Like when he told me to do old Berlin without any nazis or references to them
3583<Megafire> Heh.
3584<Megafire> And you followed through.
3585<Olivebirdy> Ah.
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3587<Olivebirdy> Alright, I'll think up waht to o.
3588<Vern|Pirate> OK, ok
3589<Vern|Pirate> A compromise
3590<Vern|Pirate> WD Stalingrad
3591<+Elara> I mean, I got a bit from him for Fulcrum, but I've done a bunch since then without anything more from Bow
3592• Olivebirdy: glares suspiciously at Vern.
3593<+Elara> Olive where have you visited that isn't Israel?
3594<Vern|Pirate> Imagine all the freezing Shaker
3595<Olivebirdy> New York?
3596<Olivebirdy> Florida.
3597<Vern|Pirate> Shakers*
3598<Olivebirdy> That's about it.
3599<+Elara> ok, so you could do an American game of some kind
3600<Olivebirdy> Yeah.
3601<soulpelt|fud> Do Israel and wing it
3602<+Elara> that, or brush up your 80s politics and come up with an alternate timeline
3603<Olivebirdy> Honestly, I like the idea of doing a smut-based quest in New Orleans.
3604<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
3605<soulpelt|fud> Of bow says it wrong then he can bugger off
3606<soulpelt|fud> *if
3607<Vern|Pirate> If you want to run something smut based
3608<+Elara> Blushy likes that idea, at least
3609<Vern|Pirate> Just run on QQ
3610<soulpelt|fud> Blushy, no
3611<O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
3612<Luminifera> ugh
3613<Luminifera> if I'm gonna do WD curitiba someday, I'd def need to brush up on 80s politics
3614<Luminifera> since we were a dictatorship at the time
3615<Luminifera> and then it was over and huge economic complications happened
3616<Luminifera> blehhh
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3618<Olive> Bleh, Internet went out.
3619<Luminifera> smut based quest?
3620<Luminifera> :/
3621<Olive> Yep.
3622<Luminifera> sounds like ack fic
3623<Luminifera> ewww
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3625<Olive> I would hope to do better than Ack.
3626<Olive> I dislike his characterizations.
3627Olive is now known as Olivebirdy
3628<+Elara> Lumi if you're trying to set something like that up, I can throw some ideas around with you
3629<Olivebirdy> You know how San Francisco became the place to go for gay people?
3630<Olivebirdy> I'm thinking of setting up something like that.
3631<+Elara> I know very little about 80s Brazil, but I'm pretty good on the 80s in general and I've just done a load of this shit for Fulcrum
3632<Olivebirdy> All the alternative lifestyle parahumans coming to one place.
3633<Megafire> Eh, I had some fun figuring out Zuid-Limburg, but filling it up with capes was tedious.
3634<Olivebirdy> Zuid-Limburg?
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3636<soulpelt|fud> Poor Belhamel ;_;
3637<Megafire> Zuid-Limburg is the part of the Netherlands I live in.
3638<soulpelt|fud> Luminifera: I think the dictatorship would've had a cape uprising
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3640<Shem_Phone> Eve!
3641<Shem_Phone> ning
3642<Luminifera> oookay
3643<Olivebirdy> I'm reading up on New Orleans, and it really sounds fascinating.
3644<Luminifera> I think i got this shit
3645<Luminifera> chemical balance
3646<Luminifera> beautiful.
3647<Shem_Phone> What shit?
3648<Shem_Phone> Ahhhh science
3649<Luminifera> no idea what it's called in english
3650<Shem_Phone> What's it called in Brazil speak?
3651<Luminifera> you know when you have that equation and the things keep transforming into other things and the other things keep transforming back into things
3652<Luminifera> equilíbrio químico
3653<+Elara> equilibrium reaction
3654<Shem_Phone> Huh
3655<+Elara> or chemical equilibrium
3656<+Elara> (I love that chemical is quimico, that's quite a pretty word <3)
3657<Luminifera> nice!
3658<Luminifera> :D
3659<Luminifera> guhhh so board
3660<Vern|Pirate> Fuck
3661<Vern|Pirate> So uh
3662<Vern|Pirate> I was at the eye doctor again
3663<Luminifera> and
3664<theACEbabana> @Lumi: You're feeling wooden?
3665<Luminifera> what happened?
3666<Luminifera> I'm bored ace banana :/
3667<Luminifera> I don't feel wooden
3668<Luminifera> how does that even make sense
3669<Luminifera> humans are made of meat
3670<theACEbabana> "Wooden board"
3671<Olivebirdy> What happened, Vern?
3672<Olivebirdy> You okay?
3673<Luminifera> I'm not pinocchio
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3676<Luminifera> verny boy
3677<Vern|Pirate> And it seems that under the puss of the hordeolum
3678<Olivebirdy> ...?
3679<Luminifera> as much as you disgust me, I worry about you
3680<Vern|Pirate> I got something else
3681<Megafire> ...
3682<theACEbabana> A board is a long, flat piece of wood, right?
3683<theACEbabana> I was making a joke.
3684<Luminifera> yes ace
3685<Luminifera> sorry
3686<Vern|Pirate> Apparently I'm the proud owner of herpes on my eye
3687<Luminifera> I didn't get it
3688<Luminifera> wow vern
3689<Megafire> Ew.
3690<Luminifera> how does that even happen
3691<Megafire> What the hell, Vern
3692<Olivebirdy> Oh boy.
3693<Vern|Pirate> Good question, apparently not sexually transmitted :|
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3695<Shem_Phone> Phew
3696<Olivebirdy> Oof, that sucks. Is it chronic?
3697• theACEbabana: has lost his appetite for breakfast
3698<Shem_Phone> The sexually transmitted version of eye herpes is much worse
3699<Vern|Pirate> Not chronic, and not that dangerous either
3700<theACEbabana> How soon till you're better, Vern?
3701<Vern|Pirate> It's just that the medicine she gave me was to treat the hordeolum
3702<Vern|Pirate> Not the herpes so I need to use the other medicines from now on
3703<theACEbabana> Sounds like a lot of pills.
3704<Vern|Pirate> It's painful
3705<Vern|Pirate> Nah, it's a creme I have to apply directly to my eyeball
3706<theACEbabana> *Shivers* I get antsy whenever anything gets close to my eyes. Does it sting?
3707<Shem_Phone> Eye's cream!
3708<Vern|Pirate> It burns
3709<Vern|Pirate> It burns horribly
3710<theACEbabana> What doesn't kill you makes you stronger?
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3713<Vern|Pirate> No
3714<Vern|Pirate> It burns
3715<theACEbabana> Do you still have to attend classes?
3716<Vern|Pirate> And I can use the fact that my eye is teary anyway as an excuse
3717<Vern|Pirate> I need to, or I'll fail the semester
3718<Luminifera> :( aw vern
3719<Luminifera> I really hope you get better soon
3720<Shem_Phone> Get better soon!
3721<theACEbabana> ^Seconded.
3722<cukier> Be like a Lung and let someone tear your eyes away.
3723<cukier> Something you don't have can't hurt.
3724<Vern|Pirate> But cuck
3725<theACEbabana> *Gouge your eyes out
3726<Vern|Pirate> I only have eyes for David Tennant
3727<Shem_Phone> Check for maggots first
3728<Vern|Pirate> But yeah
3729<cukier> Gouge. I like that word.
3730<Vern|Pirate> This kinda sucks
3731<Vern|Pirate> It sucks hard
3732<Luminifera> hahaha
3733<Shem_Phone> You can still make eye puns, right?: /
3734<cukier> Eye think so Shem.
3735<theACEbabana> Well, I have to head to class. See you guys later!
3736<@Mishie> [22:40]    cukier  Be like a Lung and let someone tear your eyes away.
3737<@Mishie> Vern|Pirate will never be like Lungs
3738<@Mishie> not enough drugs
3739<@Mishie> ;)
3740theACEbabana is now known as theACEbabana|Class
3741<+Elara> poor Vern and his fucked eye
3742<Luminifera> see ya ace banana
3743• Vern|Pirate: rubs bis eye all over Lumi
3744<Vern|Pirate> I just realized
3745<Vern|Pirate> With a usually sexually transmitted virus, I'm one step closer to beings true pirate
3746<Megafire> Oh shit.
3747<Megafire> ...
3748<+Elara> ...Vern
3749<@Glernaj> Vern, you have ocular herpes?
3750<Vern|Pirate> Yes
3751<@Mishie> Vern|Pirate: stop turning into Rhet|sleep
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3753<@Glernaj> congratulations on your pinkeye!
3754<Vern|Pirate> It was hidden under puss from a Hordeolum or something
3755<Vern|Pirate> It's a super infection
3756pantherasapiens is now known as panth
3757<panth> ;o
3758<@Glernaj> Although, did you get actual ocular herpes, or did you manage to get genital herpes on your eye?
3759<@Glernaj> They're both possible
3760<panth> So THAT's what the Pirate was referring to
3761<Megafire> So, as a result of Rhet's, hmm, let's call them 'woes', I've been rereading some of my favourite SSC posts: 'Radicalising the Romanceless' and 'Untitled'.
3762<@Glernaj> Rhet has woes now?
3763<cukier> panth: Herpes makes you download illegal multimedia.
3764<Vern|Pirate> Ocular herpes, Rhet
3765<@Mishie> Glernaj: he goofed
3766<Vern|Pirate> Uh
3767<Vern|Pirate> Glernaj
3768<Vern|Pirate> Not Rhet
3769<@Glernaj> oh man, what did he do Mishie?
3770<Olivebirdy> SSC?
3771<@Mishie> uh
3772<Vern|Pirate> Fuck this buuurns
3773<@Mishie> just look up
3774<Vern|Pirate> This BUUUUURNS
3775<@Mishie> or get logs
3776<Shem_Phone> Or a cyclops
3777<Megafire> SlateStarCodex.
3778<@Mishie> ask Vern|Pirate
3779<panth> ...ah
3780<@Mishie> he was there from the start
3781• Vern|Pirate: tips out his eyes
3782<@Glernaj> I only logged in 10 minutes ago!
3783<panth> Vern|Pirate: mind giving me logs of Rhet's story ;o
3784<@Glernaj> I can't look up very far!
3785<Vern|Pirate> Too long didn't read
3786<panth> Pleeeeeease
3787<Shem_Phone> Neither can he,  glern
3788<Vern|Pirate> Rhet fucked up about a girl he had a crush on
3789<Vern|Pirate> Wow Shem
3790<Vern|Pirate> Wow
3791<Vern|Pirate> That was a low blow
3792<Shem_Phone> I try
3793<+Elara> I'll grab the logs and paste bin 'em
3794<+Elara> gimme a tick
3795<Shem_Phone> Vernocular is a word, right?
3796<Megafire> Oh wow, Shem.
3797<Megafire> That is the best pun.
3798<Vern|Pirate> :|
3799<+Elara> http://pastebin.com/uZqek7Za <- Rhet's crush story, for those who were interested
3800<panth> Elara is best Elara
3801<+Elara> Mega I didn't like those posts on SSC, as best I remember them
3802<panth> Shem_Phone: Vernacular actually
3803<panth> But close enough
3804<Shem_Phone> What does it mean?
3805<+Elara> crude
3806<Megafire> I may have been closer to the target audience than you, Elara.
3807<+Elara> or widely spoken
3808<+Elara> possibly so; I guess reading them *knowing* that Scott is generally hostile to feminism doesn't help
3809<Megafire> I can imagine.
3810<Megafire> Given that, around that time, I was pretty hostile to feminism myself, that would explain why I remember them fondly.
3811<@Glernaj> [07:54] <Shem_Phone> What does it mean? <- vernacular is common speech or slang
3812<Luminifera> rhet liked a girl in high school. he never talked to her about it. she was dating his friend and he didn't even know it. eventually they got to uni. she and rhet go to the same uni. her bf goes to another state. one day her family and the bf's family fly to visit the bf with plans of going steady. bf breaks up with her right then. meanwhile rhet keeps trying
3813<Luminifera> to dance with her or go out with her and she keeps refusing him. eventually he gets fed up and emails her asking why she was avoiding him. she tells him the stuff and says she didn't want a relationship now and could see that he had those intentions towards her. she also offered for them to meet some day to talk. he still hasn't answered to this day. every
3814<Luminifera> once in a while they bump into each other and say 'hi' and go their own ways. rhet says he's gotten over her. the end.
3815<Luminifera> whew. there, I summed it up for ya
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3817<+Elara> and what happened Mega, you got better?
3818<Luminifera> 9:56 AM <Megafire> Given that, around that time, I was pretty hostile to feminism myself, that would explain why I remember them fondly.
3819<Luminifera> eww
3820<Megafire> No.
3821<Luminifera> anti-fem boys are the absolute worst
3822<Megafire> Then I am the absolute worst.
3823<Luminifera> :/
3824<+Elara> I like how you say "Rhet says he's gotten over her" Lumi, because I agree he clearly hasn't
3825<Luminifera> xD
3826<Luminifera> he SAYS he did.
3827<Luminifera> that's what I said
3828<cukier> What should I do if sigkill doesn't kill a process?
3829<Luminifera> mega care to explain why? :P
3830<@Mishie> Elara: no really?
3831<@Mishie> :P
3832<Luminifera> cuki: cry
3833<Megafire> I used to be a feminist.
3834<cukier> ;(
3835• cukier: sobs.
3836<Luminifera> hmm
3837<Luminifera> nah
3838<Megafire> Turns out I don't do well with many of their tactics.
3839<Luminifera> you're a boy, aren't you?
3840<cukier> I'm.
3841<Luminifera> I used to be a feminist too :D
3842<Luminifera> you're crying cuki?
3843• Luminifera: pats cuki's shoulder
3844<@Mishie> [23:00]    Luminifera  I used to be a feminist too
3845<Luminifera> keep it up, eventually the problem will solve itself. always works.
3846• Mishie: thinks back to some of the dumb shit Luminifera has said in the past
3847• panth: thought Megafire was a girl
3848<+Elara> whose tactics Mega? I don't want to go all NAFALT on you, but a lot of people use nasty tactics
3849<@Glernaj> cukier, try killing the parent?
3850<Luminifera> mishie what do you mean :(
3851<Luminifera> what did I do :(
3852<@Mishie> just make sweeping generalizations
3853<Luminifera> uh?
3854<@Mishie> like how there shouldn't be male teachers
3855<Megafire> Well, yes, but it became more and more pervasive. The whole 'if you believe men and women are/should be equal, then you're a feminist' thing really bothers me.
3856<Luminifera> like?
3857<@Mishie> because you've had a few creepy ones or whatever
3858<+Elara> yeah, to be fair I've had to start pushing back on that
3859<Luminifera> mish I had no idea teachers in other countries weren't offensive
3860<Luminifera> not a few
3861<Luminifera> literally all of tem
3862<Luminifera> them*
3863<@Glernaj> mmm, depends on where you are Megafire
3864<Luminifera> it's a very very common thing
3865<Megafire> Especially because I was initially roped in by it.
3866<+Elara> because a lot of people use it, and it's misleading
3867<Luminifera> mega oh yeah
3868<Luminifera> that 'equal" thing is bull
3869<Luminifera> :/
3870<Megafire> 'Teach men not to rape' really fucking bothers me.
3871<Luminifera> oh why
3872<Luminifera> you want the right to rape? :P
3873<@Glernaj> Do you really not understand why that bothers us?
3874<Luminifera> you already have it in most countries any way *shrugs*
3875<@Mishie> wat
3876<Megafire> I live in the Netherlands.
3877<+Elara> it's a step up from teaching women to avoid rape, tbh
3878<Megafire> Where I do not have the 'right' to rape.
3879• soulpelt|fud: pays attention again
3880<Luminifera> hello spelt!
3881soulpelt|fud is now known as soulpelt|
3882<Megafire> And, as such, 'I', as an individual, do not have the 'right' to rape.
3883<cukier> I want to take a picture of a trail that tear rolled down my cheek on, but my phone camera can't capture it. :/
3884<Megafire> And no, it's not.
3885<soulpelt|> We on one of those never ending 'internet arguments'?
3886<Megafire> Rapists are going to rape.
3887<cukier> And it's dry now.
3888<@Glernaj> Lumi, the reason that statement bothers us is the assumption that men have to be, in GENERAL, taught not to rape, as opposed to be an action commited by a minority of mentally ill people.
3889<Megafire> Shouting 'rapist no raping' isn't going to change that.
3890<@Glernaj> PLUS, the assumption that all rapists are men.
3891<@Mishie> and y'know
3892<Luminifera> aw cuki :(
3893• cukier: goes to kill parents.
3894<Luminifera> mega what the fu ck
3895<Luminifera> hahahahaha
3896<@Mishie> the fact that it's basically going "yeah so all men might become rapists at a moments notice and we need to make sure it doesn't happen"
3897<Luminifera> you're not serious right
3898<Luminifera> you cannot be serious
3899<Luminifera> can't just cant
3900<Megafire> Lumi, you just called me a potential rapist.
3901<Shem_Phone> Guysssss
3902<Megafire> You do not have the right to accuse me of 'not being serious'.
3903<cukier> I'm serious Lumi.
3904<Luminifera> you think rape is something a minority of mentally I'll men do????
3905<cukier> Glernaj told me to.
3906<Luminifera> wow
3907<Megafire> Or, rather, you do.
3908<@Mishie> Luminifera: the joke is that you're kind of an example of this
3909<Luminifera> I cannot believe
3910<@Glernaj> Erm
3911<@Glernaj> Lumi.
3912<@Glernaj> Yes, yes I do.
3913<Luminifera> wow
3914<Megafire> But I realise that's the point where this conversation stops having a point.
3915<Luminifera> you're all
3916<Luminifera> terribly misinformed
3917<Luminifera> hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
3918<Luminifera> okay
3919<Luminifera> wow
3920<@Mishie> so uh
3921<Megafire> Then inform me.
3922<Luminifera> that
3923<@Glernaj> So, uhh
3924<Luminifera> you can't be serious oh my god
3925<@Glernaj> I think you're using the tumblr definition of rape here.
3926<Luminifera> literally every girl knows different
3927<@Glernaj> Which is "not rape"
3928<Luminifera> nope
3929<Luminifera> hahaha
3930<Luminifera> okay
3931<+Elara> Glern serial rapists are a very small portion of people, but calling them mentally ill is...not exactly helpful
3932<Megafire> Literally every girl?
3933<Luminifera> tell me what's the tumblr definition of rape glern
3934<Shem_Phone> Rape is almost always done by men, so saying "men should be taught to stop raping" kind of makes sense
3935<Megafire> Including all the anti-feminist ones?
3936<Luminifera> okay maybe there are a few very sheltered girls out there
3937<@Mishie> I think you're both wrong
3938<@Glernaj> Elara, it's true though.
3939<Luminifera> it isn't though
3940<Luminifera> it is NOT
3941<Luminifera> hahahahahaha
3942<Luminifera> Jesus christ
3943<+Elara> it's not mental illness to immorally use force or deception to get what you want regardless of the consent of others
3944<Luminifera> I'll just
3945<Megafire> 'Very sheltered'?
3946<Megafire> Wow.
3947<Luminifera> maybe when i get home and have access to decent internet access and links I'll continue this
3948<Luminifera> wow
3949<Shem_Phone> Elara is right
3950<Luminifera> I'm baffled
3951<Megafire> I'm really not.
3952<Megafire> I'm saddened.
3953<Luminifera> I almost pity you guys
3954<@Mishie> yeah uh
3955<Megafire> Because this is almost a response I hoped I wouldn't get.
3956<@Mishie> don't lump me in with this
3957<Luminifera> you haven't met the boys I have
3958<Luminifera> hahaha
3959<@Glernaj> So Lumi.
3960<@Glernaj> You think rape is a palatable action to the majority of men?
3961<Shem_Phone> Soooo Lumi!
3962<@Mishie> Luminifera: so what, you're saying that in your area that the only reason why you're not getting raped is because they don't want to get caught or something?
3963<panth> So
3964<Shem_Phone> Palatable means what?
3965<panth> I just finished Rhet's crush story
3966<Shem_Phone> In that context?
3967<@Glernaj> palatable - acceptable
3968<panth> And now the channel is discussing rape
3969<panth> Weelllllllllllp
3970<@Glernaj> a course of action that can be tolerated.
3971<Megafire> I mean, the continued laughing isn't really helping me be sympathetic to you here, Lumi.
3972<@Mishie> also that
3973<Shem_Phone> I agree with Meggie
3974<Shem_Phone> About the laughs
3975<Shem_Phone> Not about the thing
3976<+Elara> Glernaj I think most sexually active people would, in the right circumstances, if they felt they could get away with it, be tempted to push at the boundaries of consent
3977<Luminifera> yay tapeworms!!!!!
3978<+Elara> how many people cross the line, and how far they cross it, is going to be influenced by cultural factors
3979<+Elara> and how much cover the small minority who make a habit of crossing that line have...is going to depend on how many other people walk right up to the line before turning around, and how brightly the line is drawn
3980<panth> And also how many guns shoot you when you get caught crossing it
3981<+Elara> a lot of this stuff about teaching men not to rape, for example, is about trying to make the line a bit brighter and a bit wider, by trying to make more people turn back from the line a leeeettle bit sooner
3982<+Elara> it might not do that job very well, and that's a different discussion that we can have
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3984<@Mishie> and then some people get offended because apparently the line only exists in certain situations
3985<@Mishie> because dumb people say dumb offensive things
3986<Megafire> It does it terribly.
3987<@Mishie> like
3988<@Mishie> yes it needs to be made clear that it's there
3989<@Mishie> but it needs to be made clear to Everybody
3990<+Elara> Mishie sure, I think we need to teach everyone better about personal autonomy and consent
3991<Megafire> Because it paints men as, on the whole, potential rapists, paints rapists as being mostly men (or at least only cares about it when it's men) and might stop people from using otherwise functional ways of protecting themselves.
3992<@Mishie> like
3993<@Mishie> if everybody is sat down and told
3994<@Mishie> "yeah so, shits been happening and it's not kay, here's how to make sure shit is clear"
3995<Megafire> Besides, sexual violence is at an all-time low and still dropping.
3996<+Elara> Megafire I think the difficulty is that, though it might be obvious inside a particular man's head that he's not a rapist, it isn't obvious from outside
3997<@Mishie> "this is information to help stop things on both sides being given to both genders"
3998<Megafire> So, you think all men are potential rapists, then?
3999<@Mishie> realtalk
4000<+Elara> Megafire no
4001<Megafire> Because, that seems to me to be sexism.
4002<@Mishie> just change it from
4003<+Elara> that's not what I said at all
4004<@Mishie> "all men are potential rapists"
4005<@Mishie> to
4006<@Mishie> "all people can fuck up"
4007<@Mishie> "everybody can do bad things"
4008<@Glernaj> It's what was conveyed though Elara.
4009<Megafire> How is it a man's responsibility to not be seen as a rapist?
4010<@Mishie> "this is how we can do our best to stop it"
4011<+Elara> some people, based on their character, their disposition, their whatever, would never ever commit rape
4012<+Elara> there is no signal for consistently telling them from people who would
4013<Megafire> Why would every man have to signal that they are not a rapist before being treated as a human being?
4014<Megafire> And how would they go about doing so?
4015<+Elara> they shouldn't
4016<Megafire> Then what do you mean when you say 'it isn't obvious from the outside'?
4017<@Glernaj> Then why is your stance "it's not obvious that a given man is not a rapist"?
4018<+Elara> what I took from Schrodinger's Rapist was that people should be aware that someone may feel sexually threatened by them
4019<@Mishie> realtalk
4020<@Mishie> is there any reason Elara
4021<@Mishie> that if you and I were to be sat down
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4023<@Mishie> and given a lecture on how to ensure that neither of us fucked up and did anything that could be considered rape
4024<@Mishie> or involved in it
4025<@Mishie> why should either of us be given a different lecture
4026<+Elara> we shouldn't
4027<+Elara> ideally
4028<@Mishie> except lets be real
4029<@Mishie> you'll be told about how you need to always be afraid on on the alert
4030<@Mishie> and I'll be told that I need to be double, triple sure that everything is fine
4031<Megafire> Man, if someone's afraid of black guy because they feel threatened by him, solely because he's black, is that not racism?
4032<@Mishie> and that I should probably have a signed document as well
4033<@Mishie> and maybe just witnesses in case my partner changes their mind
4034<Megafire> So, if someone's afraid of a man because they feel threatened by him, solely because he is a man, is that not sexism?
4035<Megafire> A recording of consent is probably best.
4036<Megafire> You know, just in case.
4037<@Mishie> unless they change their mind after
4038<Megafire> Well, sure.
4039<Megafire> But at least you have it on record that they agreed.
4040<+Elara> Megafire sure it's racist to be afraid of a man just because he's black. we're half-evolved monkeys, that kind of feeling is very human
4041<@Glernaj> is post facto withdrawal of consent accepted by the courts?
4042<@Glernaj> It can't be.
4043<@Glernaj> Right?
4044<Megafire> It's better than a signed document.
4045<Megafire> Because it's easier to claim a document was signed under duress.
4046<+Elara> it isn't racist to be afraid of someone who's got 15 cm of height and 30 kg weight advantage of you, who's walking faster than you on a dark street at night
4047<@Mishie> Elara: tell that to panda
4048<@Mishie> please
4049<@Mishie> I want to see the reaction to that
4050<@Glernaj> oh god, I would not want to be here for that
4051<Shem_Phone> Guysssss
4052<@Glernaj> Yes Shem?
4053<Megafire> So, the other guy needs to change his behaviour just for someone else to feel more comfortable?
4054<Megafire> Most people are not going to hurt you
4055<Shem_Phone> Withdrawing consent isn't the case in most rape cases
4056<@Mishie> well yeah
4057<@Mishie> no shit
4058<@Mishie> it's just an example
4059<+Elara> maybe they do mega
4060<@Glernaj> Yes, we're aware.
4061<Megafire> You protect yourself against the ones that will, and if you feel everyone will, that is your problem and you need a therapist.
4062<@Mishie> thank you captain obvious
4063<+Elara> if you want people to be comfortable around you, acting in ways that make them uncomfortable is not going to help
4064<Megafire> It's called being paranoid.
4065<Megafire> I don't!
4066<+Elara> also WTF is this shit about recording consent?
4067<@Mishie> Elara: literally a joke
4068<@Glernaj> (Also, Elara, if they have 15 cm height on you, they're going to walk faster because they're taller)
4069<@Mishie> hyperbole
4070<Megafire> I act the way the people I give a shit about are comfortable with.
4071<@Mishie> about how shits done differently
4072<@Mishie> the tone
4073<+Elara> dunno Glern, I walk pretty fast
4074<Megafire> Everyone else? That's their problem.
4075<Megafire> If someone paranoid feels threatened by me, that's their problem to solve, not mine.
4076<Megafire> If I need something from them, sure.
4077<Megafire> But I probably don't.
4078<Vern|Pirate> So I just got back to chat after a bit
4079<Vern|Pirate> And see Lumi being a dick
4080<@Mishie> Lumi is p gud at being accidentally offensive
4081<+Elara> what you see as paranoia Mega, some people see as being justifiably wary
4082<+Elara> based on lived experience
4083<Megafire> Yeah.
4084<Megafire> And that's still paranoia.
4085<Vern|Pirate> Yeah, she is
4086<Megafire> And you can get help for that.
4087<+Elara> no, no it's not
4088<Megafire> It's still not everyone else's duty to accomodate you.
4089<+Elara> saying "9 times out of 10 this is fine, but the 10th time it goes horribly wrong", it is not paranoia to avoid that thing
4090<Megafire> Yes, it is.
4091<Megafire> Do not gave me the M&M bowl comparison.
4092<Megafire> Please.
4093<Megafire> Actually, sorry, you are right, that is not paranoia.
4094<@Clarvel> uguu
4095<Vern|Pirate> A certain amount of paranoia is necessary everywhere. Justified wariness is nothing more than paranoia with a nicer name.
4096<Vern|Pirate> Hi Clarvel
4097<Megafire> But, blaming the thing and demanding it to change is still nonsense.
4098<Megafire> You avoid it, if you want to, and if you can't, you learn to deal with it.
4099<@Glernaj> Morning Clarvel
4100<Luminifera> HEY MEGA SO YOU HAVE TONS OF M&MS AND SOME OF THEM ARE POISONED
4101<@Clarvel> ugh
4102<Luminifera> xD
4103<Vern|Pirate> Did you know that women can't be arrested for flashing people on the street?
4104<@Clarvel> hi Vern|Pirate Glernaj
4105<Vern|Pirate> I Germany
4106<Vern|Pirate> In*
4107<Megafire> And, anyway, that's pretty much the argument MGTOW use, too.
4108<@Glernaj> MGTOW?
4109<Megafire> Men Going Their Own Way.
4110<Vern|Pirate> Clarvel:I read your ugh as uguuu
4111<Megafire> Pretty much men who have sworn off women as being 'too much of a risk'.
4112<+Elara> like, say you stop to chat with tramps, because you don't always have money to give them, but they're human too. most of the time they appreciate the conversation, but one day this tramp shouts at you for not giving him money and chases you until you run away
4113<Luminifera> lol
4114<Luminifera> how ironic!!!!
4115<+Elara> you are going to be less likely to talk to tramps from now on
4116<@Glernaj> I'd actually say I was less likely to talk to that specific tramp.
4117<Luminifera> I know girls who have given up boys as 'too much of a risk'
4118<Megafire> Yeah, and that's still my problem, and not the problem of all tramps I come across.
4119<Luminifera> except you know, they just don't wanna be raped and killed
4120<Luminifera> no biggie
4121<Luminifera> :P
4122<+Elara> ok Glernaj that makes sense. now what if it keeps happening?
4123<Luminifera> boys are scary.
4124<Megafire> Tramps do not have a duty to behave differently.
4125<Vern|Pirate> I think I give up on Lumi as too much of a headache :v
4126<Megafire> Yeah, and boys only have to be afraid of being raped in jail for being accused of rapists and having their lives ruined.
4127<Megafire> No biggie.
4128<Megafire> Girls are fucking terrifying.
4129<Luminifera> mega lol
4130<Luminifera> 2% of rapists get incarcerated
4131<Luminifera> two
4132<Luminifera> percent
4133<Megafire> That's bullshit.
4134<+Elara> Lumi that statistic is...dubious
4135<Luminifera> oh really
4136<@Glernaj> Depends on if I have specific motivation for talking to said tramps, but if it's just a casual interest, I'd probably stop, yes.
4137<Megafire> Seriously.
4138<Luminifera> fine prove it
4139<Megafire> That statistic relies on presumed guilt.
4140<soulpelt|> I think that varies per country, Lumi
4141<Vern|Pirate> That statistic sound ridiculously retarded
4142<Luminifera> I've heard of quite a few rapes with girls i know and trust
4143<@Glernaj> Luminifera, statistics on rape are suuuuuuper unreliable
4144<Luminifera> none of the boys went to prison
4145<@Glernaj> largely because a ton don't get reported
4146<@Mishie> [23:31]    Luminifera  fine prove it
4147<@Mishie> yeah uh
4148<Vern|Pirate> Brazil seems to be a shitty country to be a woman in
4149<@Mishie> that's uh
4150<Megafire> Personal experience, Lumi
4151<Luminifera> I think I'll trust the victims more than the attackers
4152<@Mishie> not how it works
4153<Luminifera> yeah vern
4154<Luminifera> you got it rigt
4155<@Mishie> you kinda can't just go
4156<Luminifera> unfortunately
4157<Shem_Phone> Prison rape =/= what people get when they are being called rapists
4158<@Mishie> "here's a statistic, now disprove it"
4159<Vern|Pirate> See, that's the problem, you can't blame the guys here
4160<Megafire> I am sorry that happened to those girls, and I hope their lives are better now.
4161<@Glernaj> And Lumi, the burden of proof is on you to prove the statistic, not for us to disprove it.
4162<Vern|Pirate> Blame the shit stain you call home
4163<@Mishie> realtalk lumi
4164<Luminifera> I hope too. I haven't talked to them in a while
4165<Megafire> But that's still not anything I can do anything with in this discussion.
4166<+Elara> false accusations of rape are pretty fucking rare though. they're not even that heavy in social contexts that don't lead to criminal charges
4167<@Mishie> have you considered that the place you live is just flat out worse than pretty much everywhere that isn't india or africa
4168<Luminifera> vern tbh you seem to hate girls so much, I'd be hella scared of going out with you
4169<@Mishie> hahahahahaha
4170<Shem_Phone> Elara is correct
4171<@Mishie> goddam
4172<Luminifera> not that I would anyway, esp. with your eye thing lmao
4173<Luminifera> it's just that. eh.
4174<@Mishie> ohmygod
4175<Luminifera> I wouldnt rec you to any friends too
4176<@Glernaj> hoooooly crap Lumi
4177<@Mishie> Lumi is just on a roll
4178<Luminifera> you seem risky
4179<Megafire> Well, I don't know, being kicked out of every college for a false rape accusation in campus kangaroo courts isn't something I'd be very happy with, either.
4180<Luminifera> sorry
4181<@Glernaj> where the fuck did this come from?
4182<Luminifera> *shrugs*
4183<@Mishie> Luminifera: is it because he's brown?
4184<Luminifera> my interactions with vern
4185<Luminifera> yeah mishie totally. not like >60% of Brazilians are brown too
4186<Luminifera> :|
4187<Shem_Phone> Kangaroo?
4188<Vern|Pirate> False accusations that lead to incarceration should be punished with an equal sentence. Doesn't happen when the lie is discovered.
4189<@Mishie> Luminifera: literally a joke
4190<Luminifera> and Vern is blond.
4191<Luminifera> he has blue eyes and is german
4192<Luminifera>  if anything he's whiter than me
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4194<Vern|Pirate> Luminifera: you're being an incredible bitch about anything considering my comments about relationships.
4195<Vern|Pirate> No way to mince words here
4196<soulpelt|> guys
4197<soulpelt|> how about we take a break hm?
4198<Vern|Pirate> If you feel uncomfortable with the topic, leave.
4199<Shem_Phone> ^
4200<Shem_Phone> @ both
4201<@Mishie> soulpelt|: no
4202<Megafire> Yeah, I'm good.
4203<@Mishie> this is hilarious
4204<Luminifera> and by calling me a bitch you're not exactly making me feel better about you. sigh
4205<Luminifera> I swear I dont have anything against you as a person
4206<@Mishie> hahahahha
4207<Megafire> Lumi, don't DARVO Vern here.
4208<@Glernaj> er, what?
4209<@Mishie> Luminifera: you literally just said shit way worse
4210<Luminifera> what's darvo
4211<Luminifera> hmm
4212<Luminifera> no I didnt
4213<@Glernaj> Lumi, you JUST SAID you have things against him as a person.
4214<Luminifera> I said I wouldnt feel safe around him
4215<Luminifera> that's all
4216<@Glernaj> And.. you think that isn't saying something about him as a person?
4217<@Mishie> uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
4218<+Elara> Mega wtf is DARVO?
4219<Luminifera> have you ever just felt an instinct about not feeling safe around someone?
4220<Shem_Phone> Guys
4221<@Mishie> that's a pretty personal attack lumi
4222<@Glernaj> I have no idea what darvo is
4223<Megafire> “Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender
4224<+Elara> are you delving into NRx weirdness now
4225<Luminifera> oh
4226<Shem_Phone> Can we address the elephant in the room?
4227<Megafire> It's pretending to be the victim while you're the initial attacker.
4228<Luminifera> I'm not intending to attack anyone.
4229<@Glernaj> what elephant is that Shem?
4230<Luminifera> I'm not a victim? no one here has attacked me
4231<Shem_Phone> Mega's moustache
4232<@Mishie> what
4233<@Mishie> [23:36]    Luminifera  and by calling me a bitch you're not exactly making me feel better about you. sigh
4234<Luminifera> I suddenly don't understand what you're talking about
4235<soulpelt|> xD
4236<+Elara> nobody has to pretend to feel safe if they don't. As long as you don't treat "I don't feel safe around you" as equalling "you are evil", that's fine
4237<Luminifera> calling someone names over the internet isn't attacking, it's just annoying
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4240<+Elara> like, some people just vibe you wrong. that's ok
4241<Shem_Phone> (their moustache vibes you wrong)
4242<Luminifera> tbh I wouldn't feel safe with most of you.
4243<Shem_Phone> Not even Antioch?
4244<Vern|Pirate> That's a problem, Elara. Most people are increasingly hostile to people they are uncomfortable with. Instead of avoiding them, they seek the confrontation, especially on the Internet.
4245<Luminifera> it's the rare boy that I feel okay enough around
4246<Luminifera> I've barely ever talked to anti xD
4247<+Elara> Vern I don't think that's changed, it's just moved venues
4248<Luminifera> I just used vern as an example.
4249<Luminifera> most of you guys would qualify as well.
4250<+Elara> and to a certain extent people who have never felt safe to seek the confrontation do when they find a space where they can finally do it
4251<Shem_Phone> Jen qualifies
4252<Luminifera> I have been friends with people I feel kinda uncomfortable around
4253• Luminifera: shrugs
4254<Luminifera> i don't understand what the big deal is.
4255<Vern|Pirate> Well congratulations, you don't need to be scared of me anymore
4256<Luminifera> because you're never gonna talk to me again?
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4258<Luminifera> I'm not scared of you
4259<Luminifera> I've never even met you
4260<Vern|Pirate> Indeed. So you can feel more comfortable.
4261<Luminifera> and probably never will
4262<Vern|Pirate> It's obviously me how has to accommodate you.
4263<Shem_Phone> Guys :(
4264<Luminifera> I don't feel uncomfortable talking with you on chat
4265<+Elara> like...I wouldn't feel safe pushing back against anti-kink/BDSM stuff offline, because speaking out is basically outing yourself
4266<+Elara> whereas online I'm happy to tear someone a new one
4267<Shem_Phone> Can't we all be friendly friends?
4268<Luminifera> ^
4269<@Clarvel> no
4270<@Glernaj> Christ this conversation has turned into a clusterfuck
4271<@Clarvel> maybe
4272<Luminifera> eh
4273<Luminifera> everyone hates me now probably
4274<+Elara> yes Glern, because too many people are talking at crosspurposes
4275<Shem_Phone> Yup
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4277<+Elara> like, Mega is arguing with his theoretical internet feminist, and at best I've managed to make the point that I am not TIF
4278<@Glernaj> I wouldn't say hate Lumi, more of "rather offended by"
4279<soulpelt|> Hence why I wanted people to take a goddam break, Glernaj.
4280• panth: is just reading Sayaka Quest and ctrl-tabbing back here every few pages
4281<soulpelt|> but noooooo
4282<Vern|Pirate> There's no such things as breaks, spelt
4283<Luminifera> apparently having had tons of bad experiences with boys and not feeling safe around most of them is a very grave offense
4284<Luminifera> :/
4285<@Glernaj> Yeah, honestly contemplating locking the channel.
4286<Vern|Pirate> The moment you call for a break, the conversation doesn't leave.
4287<@Clarvel> sayaka quest?
4288<Vern|Pirate> The hostility doesn't leave
4289<Luminifera> or maybe it's just the fact that I said it
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4291<soulpelt|> but it allows tempers to cool, Vern.
4292<Luminifera> am I supposed to be quietly uncomfortable?
4293<Olivebirdy> I vote against break as well.
4294<Luminifera> I'm just honest. I dont want to offend anyone
4295<Shem_Phone> Hey olive
4296<Vern|Pirate> No, you're supposed to avoid places you feel are toxic to you.
4297<Olivebirdy> Give me a sec to get my laptop.
4298<Shem_Phone> I vote in favor of adding a dumb rule that makes the conversation go away
4299<+Elara> what if that included your school, your high street and the buses Vern?
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4301<Luminifera> vern
4302<OliveB> Whooo
4303<@Glernaj> Christ
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4305<@Glernaj> Clarvel, how long are you going to be around?
4306<@Clarvel> uh, by 'around' what do you mean
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4308<@Glernaj> Present at your computer and able to lift that +m I just set.
4309<@Clarvel> class in 45min, but I'll have wifi
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4311<@Clarvel> you got a time you want it lifted?
4312<@Glernaj> I'd say give it 15 minutes or so
4313<@Clarvel> kk
4314<@Glernaj> I have to leave for work like nowish though
4315<@Glernaj> So thanks.
4316<@Clarvel> have fun m8
4317<+Elara> later Glern o/
4318<@Glernaj> cheers.
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4320<+Elara> (when did I get voiced? I'm not complaining, but I don't remember it happening)
4321Clarvel sets mode -m
4322<@Clarvel> Elara: I voice ppl who make me laugh
4323<@Clarvel> gj
4324<@Clarvel> was yesterday tho
4325<@Clarvel> I think
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4327<Megafire> I would like to apologise for whatever part I played in the previous conversation.
4328<+Elara> fair enough
4329<Benguin> wee
4330<Benguin> I met a gaggle of gay guys today
4331<+Elara> Ben yay
4332<Benguin> Well it's more like I discovered that I met a gaggle of gay guys the day previous
4333<Olivebirdy> Oh, we're good?
4334<Olivebirdy> Greaaaat
4335<+Elara> Mega I'll PM you, one tick
4336<Megafire> Don't have a lot of time, mind.
4337<Megafire> About to go out for an early dinner.
4338• Vern|Pirate: drinks his hazelnut cappuccino
4339<soulpelt|> \o/
4340<Olivebirdy> So, Luminifera, you have to be willing to change your mind if someone has facts that don't align with your current opinion.
4341<Olivebirdy> Nobody is always right.
4342<Vern|Pirate> Lumi would fit in sv debate threads.
4343<Luminifera> olive please don't make me do this. everyone already hates me. :(
4344<Olivebirdy> Mildly offended.
4345<Olivebirdy> That's not the same as deciding you are an awful person.
4346<Luminifera> no. why are you doing this. I'm anxious.
4347<Luminifera> this is making me very nervous.
4348<Olivebirdy> Because being anxious is okay.
4349<Luminifera> you're being mean Olive
4350<Olivebirdy> Yes, I am.
4351<Olivebirdy> I don't care that you anxious,
4352<soulpelt|> We don't think you're awful Lumi.
4353<Olivebirdy> It's just not a problem.
4354<Vern|Pirate> Playing the victim isn't going to help you now. I'm offended at hypocrisy. If you have an opinion, stand by it. Argue in facts, not in laughter that is dismissive and condescending.
4355<Luminifera> bluh
4356<Olivebirdy> I don't think you are awful.
4357<+Elara> Lumi, the manic laughter was rude
4358<Olivebirdy> I do think that lau^
4359<Luminifera> olive says you think I meant that I think you'd rape me if you could
4360<+Elara> Olive, you are now being a dick
4361<Luminifera> I did not mean that
4362<panth> Clarvel: D:
4363<Olivebirdy> I am bbeing a dick
4364<Luminifera> I thought it was obvious that I didn't
4365<+Elara> and we are not going back there
4366<panth> Everything I've done for you
4367<Luminifera> therefore I didn't elaborate
4368<panth> And I still have no voice
4369<Luminifera> but now I will
4370<panth> But Elara just makes you chuckle a little
4371<Luminifera> you do have a voice panth
4372<panth> Well I see which side the butter's on now D:
4373<soulpelt|> heh
4374• panth: harrumphs
4375<@Clarvel> ...butter?
4376<Megafire> Anyway, I am off to dinner.
4377<Megafire> Later folks.
4378<panth> Elara: but srsly though snippets on how the UK Parahuman categories got named and stuff
4379<Vern|Pirate> See you
4380<@Clarvel> panth: cler tries to not show favoritism
4381<panth> It would be nice
4382<Luminifera> vern, you and a lot of boys, most boys i know, I'd dare say, I don't know why, but seem to think violence is super cool
4383<panth> > not show favouritism
4384<panth> > voices Elara
4385<@Clarvel> and this thing with voice is an established thing I do
4386<panth> ;-;
4387<panth> Yeah I guess xD
4388<Olivebirdy> Instinct is hard to push down
4389<panth> Not like it comes into play a lot anyways
4390<Luminifera> I don't think it's cool, and it makes me feel like if I pissed them off, even unwillingly, they'd get angry at me
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4392<Olivebirdy> I tend to feel worried if someone is bigger than me.
4393<Luminifera> and could hurt me, and I don't want to bw hurt, because I don't like that
4394<soulpelt|class> not thinking violence is cool is fine. *says as he plunders europe and slaughters tens of thousands of French*
4395<panth> I think that happens a lot. I myself get stressed when in loud environments, even if that's just one person talking loudly
4396<Olivebirdy> ^
4397<+Elara> panth yes, as I have time and inspiration, snippets might happen
4398<Olivebirdy> It's legit scary
4399<Luminifera> that's what I meant when I said I wouldn't feel comfortable or safe if I were to interact with you or most boys really irl
4400<+Elara> if you have any ideas lemme know
4401<panth> Just want to know about the capes who inspired the different classes
4402<Luminifera> I don't think boys just randomly get rapey and murderous
4403<panth> Like who was Troll
4404<panth> And what did Varlet do
4405<panth> And how, for example, the K-Types got recognised
4406<Luminifera> it's just that... boys, in my experience, get angry easily
4407<+Elara> those are just questions panthy bae
4408<+Elara> not ideas :P
4409<panth> Those are questions that lead to ideas though
4410<Luminifera> and people can get violent when they're angry
4411<panth> Like you can write, documentary-style
4412<panth> "Today the Suits announced the capture of Varlet, a cape who had been terrorising all of Ireland..."
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4414<Vern|Pirate> I repeat. You must live in a shit environment, in a shit country, Lumi.
4415<Luminifera> people who don't show a lot of self control or that seem not to care too much about expressing their anger (mostly physically) make me wary
4416<Luminifera> and kind of scared
4417<Luminifera> I'm sorry
4418<Vern|Pirate> Being a boy doesn't make you more aggressive
4419<Luminifera> I really didn't mean to offend you, not gravely at least
4420<panth> Being bearded on the other hand
4421<Luminifera> it does, it's testosterone. it's not excuse of course but it does make you more aggressive biologically speaking
4422<panth> (jk jk love the beard Vern)
4423<Luminifera> no excuse*
4424<Chime> we offload our emotional reactions into our beards in order to fool alexandria
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4426<+Elara> XD
4427<+Elara> nice Chime
4428<Luminifera> I don't know. you just say some really violence-advocating stuff on chat sometimes. and that scares me a bit. that's all
4429<+Elara> how often does that come in handy?
4430<Bruticus> Elara, what's with the plus?
4431<Luminifera> I'd be afraid of making you angry
4432<Bruticus> Are you positive today?
4433<+Elara> Clarvel voiced me because he found me funny
4434<Luminifera> elara is voiced
4435<Vern|Pirate> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DTzFo0IH/beard.jpg
4436<+Elara> so far it has let me type two lines after Glern muted the chan to break up the rape chat
4437<@Clarvel> tbf, I thought you'd log off a while ago or somethin
4438<Bruticus> I don't know what that means in this context
4439<Olivebirdy> So, should I go to anger therapy since I have a beard?
4440Clarvel sets mode -v Elara
4441<Chime> hehe, i haven't met alexandria IRL, so I donno
4442<Chime> ... yet
4443• Olivebirdy: is amused at the idea
4444• Chime: shifty eyes
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4446<Elara> eh, new on IRCcloud Clar, I've not logged off all week
4447<Elara> when they kick me off the free trial I'll start logging off again
4448<Olivebirdy> I've actually had the experience that people with beards are nicer, except for Nasrallah.
4449<Luminifera> there, I did the thing olive, can I please retreat into a hole and hide forever before i start crying in the middle of class
4450<Olivebirdy> Yep.
4451• Elara: hugs Luminifera
4452<Olivebirdy> Good job, Lumi!
4453<Elara> people with beards are damnably inconsistent Olive
4454<Elara> the nastiest shoutiest street preachers I see always have massive beards
4455<Elara> and so do some of the biggest harmless goofs
4456<Olivebirdy> Hmm
4457<Benguin> Hmmm
4458<Benguin> I may have a potential date lined up
4459<panth> ...!
4460<panth> Niiiiice
4461<Chime> i am definitely a harmless goof
4462<Olivebirdy> Bearded?
4463<panth> Remember to douche ;D
4464<panth> ...Chime is bearded?
4465<Chime> i mean if mannequin attacked i might try to put a cinderblock on him, but that's about as far as it goes
4466<Benguin> Panth you're incorrigible
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4468<panth> It's probably why I have no dates :<
4469<Chime> yeah
4470<Benguin> It's not a sure thing at all
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4472<Benguin> It's just that, all of those gays I met are single
4473<Benguin> and one of them is cute
4474<Elara> yuss Ben <3
4475<Elara> good luck
4476<Benguin> and I'm going to tutor him in Propositions
4477<Jemnyte> You could probably be more attractive if you tried
4478<Benguin> Oh that's a thing
4479<Benguin> we started doing propositionals today
4480<Benguin> I don't understand the um..
4481<Benguin> <= logic
4482<Elara> logic so fun :D
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4484<Benguin> ≤ is.. if P then Q
4485<Benguin> so the lecturer said
4486<Benguin> but.. if P is false and Q is false, p <= Q is true?
4487<Benguin> why?
4488<Benguin> wait
4489<Benguin> why did it make a symbol
4490<Elara> hmm. run me through your notation here Ben?
4491<Benguin> <= is implication
4492<Chime> it looks like backwards implication?
4493<Benguin> and we demonstrate using p and q
4494<Benguin> err
4495<Benguin> you're right. =>
4496<Chime> i guess the situation is symmetrical so it works either way
4497<Benguin> it's => I don't understand
4498<Jemnyte> Is this math?
4499<Benguin> it's propositional logic
4500<Benguin> so yes
4501<Chime> "p -> q" aka "p leads to q" aka "in any world where p is true, q must also be true" aka "every time p is true, q will be true"
4502<Jemnyte> I think I covered this in middle school, lemme see if I can remember it
4503<Chime> so
4504<Benguin> But..
4505<Chime> if you have "every time p is true BLABLABLA"
4506<Chime> and p is never true
4507<Benguin> Oh
4508<Chime> then that "every time" is automatically satisfied
4509<Benguin> I see, so
4510<Luminifera> haha
4511<Luminifera> ben
4512<Luminifera> show us a pic of your date!!!
4513<Benguin> wait
4514<Benguin> hm
4515<Jemnyte> I think the statement is something like
4516<Jemnyte> if P is true then Q is true
4517<Jemnyte> If P is false, then Q is false
4518<Benguin> Chime: so why if both are false, is p => q true?
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4520<Benguin> oh
4521<Benguin> Well fuckin'
4522<Benguin> Wait
4523<Benguin> no that's equivolence, Jemnyte
4524<Jemnyte> Or something so the statement is true?
4525<Benguin> <=>
4526<Chime> because if you only have half of that entire construction, the rest doesn't matter
4527<Chime> like let's say you have these 2 things
4528<Chime> p is false
4529<Jemnyte> Like I said, I covered this in eighth grade
4530<Chime> "p -> ANYTHING"
4531<Jemnyte> I don't remember it very well
4532<Chime> p -> anything is true
4533<Chime> the fact that q is false doesn't matter
4534<Chime> "{false} -> any conclusion" is true
4535<Benguin> All we were told was
4536<Benguin> if P then Q
4537<Benguin> and "p implies Q"
4538<Benguin> no further explanation other than a truth table
4539<JENTASTIC> bla
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4544<Benguin> why chime
4545<Luminifera> hello Jen!
4546<Jemnyte> Logics are boring, let's talk about geometrical proofs
4547<Chime> the other, more doylist explanation, is that "'false implies anything' is true" has been arbitrarily decided to be how logic equations work by logicians because if it doesn't work that way, a lot of the other logic formulas don't work correctly
4548<Bruticus> Jen, save me
4549Olve is now known as Olivephone
4550<%JENTHULHU> from?
4551<Bruticus> Save me from this talk of numbers
4552<Benguin> Are you saying it's arbitrary
4553<Luminifera> same
4554<Benguin> ?
4555<Luminifera> please
4556• Luminifera: makes grabby hands at Jen
4557<Luminifera> bruti what's your major?
4558<Bruticus> English
4559<Chime> i only took like one college class in this, and it was quite a while ago, so i donno if "it's arbitrary" is the best answer in the long run
4560<Bruticus> Big surprise
4561<Chime> but if it helps in the short run, then you can think of it that way i guess
4562<Chime> basically "false implies anything" is sort of defined as true
4563<Jemnyte> I don't like how sophists think
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4565<Chime> really it can't be true or not true, false is always false, so it can never be resolved how it affects other things
4566<Benguin> wait I get it
4567<Chime> but defining it as true makes the rest of logic work
4568<Benguin> I was looking at something else
4569<%JENTHULHU> VereorPain: piracy is a dangerous career
4570<Benguin> wait
4571<Benguin> no I don't
4572<Bruticus> Yeah, that one guy just got out of prison
4573<Benguin> well I get false & false  being true
4574<Benguin> but,
4575<Benguin> why then does P being false and Q being true equal true?
4576<Jemnyte> Are you defining it as true, or is it actually true
4577<Benguin> truth tables
4578<Benguin> F => T
4579<Chime> "false implies anything" is true
4580<Chime> fill in the blank for anything
4581<Chime> "false implies false" is true
4582<VereorPain> JENTHULHU: indeed
4583<Chime> "false implies true" is true
4584<Jemnyte> Because your end result is true
4585<Chime> if the moon is the sun, i am a dog
4586<Chime> if the moon is the sun, i am not a dog
4587<Chime> both of those are "true" in logic, because the moon isn't the sun
4588<Chime> (logic is kinda weird)
4589<Jemnyte> if P is true, and Q is false shouldn't the statement be true?
4590<Jemnyte> or false rather
4591<VereorPain> Wow
4592<Chime> "true implies false" is false
4593<Benguin> yes
4594<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: could I interest you in a magic potion with no unwanted side effects whatsoever?
4595<VereorPain> You Transsunphobe, chime
4596<Bruticus> Will it get me drunk?
4597<Jemnyte> If P is true, Q is true
4598<Jemnyte> If Q is true, R is true
4599<Chime> i remember having this exact difficulty when dealing with the concept of "f->t"=t, hehe, and i also remember it made a lot more sense about a month or so later
4600<Jemnyte> thus if P is true, R is true
4601<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: possibly
4602<Chime> but i couldn't tell you the exact steps that helped it make more sense
4603<Bruticus> Sold
4604<Jemnyte> so that's a true statement?
4605<Chime> yeah jem
4606<Jemnyte> but if R is true when P is true
4607<Benguin> I'm going to think of it as
4608<Jemnyte> and R is true when Q is true
4609<Benguin> I eman
4610<Benguin> I mean*
4611<Chime> there's an axiom for that i think
4612<Jemnyte> Q isn't always true when P is true
4613<Jemnyte> and vise versa
4614<Chime> yeah that's correct
4615<Benguin> when using the "if it is raining, then I have my umbrella" example,
4616<Benguin> if it's not raining, and you  have yoru umb
4617<Benguin> your umbrella
4618<Benguin> F => T
4619<Benguin> then it's T but only because P could have been something else?
4620<Chime> hmmm
4621<Benguin> is.. that right?
4622<Benguin> that's what this video is sort of saying.
4623<Benguin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5vRAnntKI
4624<Jemnyte> but then isn't the statement isn't true?
4625<Jemnyte> it's not true unless both Q and P are true right?
4626<Chime> if you're saying "if it's raining, then i have my umbrella" is P -> Q
4627<Chime> then "it's not raining" is ... !P
4628<%JENTHULHU> ...
4629<%JENTHULHU> are we debating the nature of logic here?
4630<%JENTHULHU> how long have you been at this?
4631<Benguin> but !P isn't in the equation >:C
4632<Chime> i don't think it's so much debating
4633<Benguin> it's P => Q
4634<Benguin> it's not !p, it's just that P is false
4635<Chime> just trying to explain why "F -> T" or, for that matter, "F -> F" is defined as true
4636<@Nae> I can solve this debate
4637<Benguin> I get F=F
4638<@Nae> guise
4639<@Nae> P
4640<@Nae> is equal to
4641<@Nae> NP
4642<@Nae> hurrrrrrr
4643• Nae: flees
4644<Benguin> it's not raining, so of course I don't have my umbrella
4645<Chime> different P :P
4646• VereorPain: pokes holes into nae's logic
4647<Chime> oh i see what you're saying
4648<Chime> so the situation of the world is that it's not raining
4649<Chime> and someone saunters up and says "if it's raining, then you have your umbrella!"
4650<Chime> meanwhile obviously not raining
4651<Chime> that person's statement was technically true, if a bit vacuous
4652<Chime> doesn't mean you have your umbrella, just that "if it's raining" you would
4653<Chime> could also say "if it's raining, then the moon is the sun!"
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4655<Chime> have you gotten to converse/inverse/contrapositive yet?
4656<Chime> i think one or more of those concepts help explain why this is the way it is, but i don't remember exactly how
4657<Jemnyte> if P is false when Q is true
4658<Jemnyte> the end statement is still true because you have your umbrella
4659<Jemnyte> it's just that you reasoning is wrong
4660<Chime> it actually doesn't matter whether you have your umbrella or not
4661<Olivebirdy> So, can we try the rape talk again?
4662<Chime> ha
4663<Olivebirdy> SO much better than logic.
4664<Chime> if someone says "if {{{definitely false thing}}} then you have your umbrella" <-- that if/then statement is a true statement no matter whether you have your umbrella
4665<VereorPain> Olivebirdy confirms: Rape > Umbrellas
4666<VereorPain> In this logic, there's not fault. /s
4667<VereorPain> ;p
4668<Jemnyte> yeah i think that's it
4669<Jemnyte> so like if you say
4670<Jemnyte> I'm 12 so I wear shorts
4671<Jemnyte> but you're not ewelve, you're actually like 8 or something
4672<Jemnyte> it doesn't matter because you're wearing shorts
4673<Olivebirdy> More men than women are rapists, I believe,
4674<Jemnyte> so the statement is true from an conclusional standpoint even if it's based on a wrong starting
4675<Olivebirdy> More men tan women have Asperger's, as well.
4676<Chime> well
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4678<VereorPain> Olivebirdy: I repeat my earlier statement
4679<VereorPain> In discussions like this
4680<Chime> evaluating the truth-value of an if/then statement isn't necessarily the same thing as evaluating the truth-value of the conclusion
4681<VereorPain> There are no breaks
4682<Chime> i'm trying to think of an example like
4683<Olivebirdy> I know.
4684<Olivebirdy> It makes no sense to have  a break.
4685<VereorPain> If you enforce a break, the hostility doesn't leave, but the conversation died out
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4687<VereorPain> And that's what glernaj did
4688<Olivebirdy> People don't have a--- Yes.
4689<Olivebirdy> Exactly.
4690<Chime> let's say "if thor from norse mythology is real, then odin from norse mythology is real"
4691<VereorPain> Hello Teruzi
4692<Chime> because odin was thor's dad
4693<Teruzi> sup
4694<Bruticus> Godin
4695<Benguin> not yet chime
4696<Chime> now, you don't have to believe in norse mythology, you don't have to believe odin is real
4697<Benguin> (late response)
4698<Olivebirdy> Hm..
4699<Chime> but that statement is still true
4700<%JENTHULHU> how long has chime been at this, seriously
4701<Teruzi> what's the discussion?
4702<Bruticus> Jen, you owe me some magic juice
4703<Teruzi> I'm allll about pointlessly talking
4704<Chime> originally: why are "f -> f" and "f -> t" considered to be true in logic
4705<Olivebirdy> If it were true that more Rappelians from Rapeland, were rapists than the norm, should we treat Rappelians differently?
4706<Elara> ayy Tuzi
4707<Elara> did you want the logs of Rhet's story?
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4709<OliveB> Would it be considered racism to force all Rappelians into Sex Consent 101?
4710<VereorPain> Don't try that route, Oliveb
4711<VereorPain> That's just painful.
4712<OliveB> :D
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4715<Luminifera> it
4716<OliveB> Vern, are you racist against Rappelians?
4717<Luminifera> wouldn't work
4718<Luminifera> you need to go to the roots
4719<Bruticus> Rappelians sound like people who love mountain climbing
4720<Chime> ^
4721<Luminifera> ^
4722<Luminifera> hahaha
4723<Luminifera> elara is a rappelian
4724<Elara> rappelling is just getting down
4725<OliveB> Don't oppress their culture, assholes.
4726<Elara> getting up is the fun bit
4727<OliveB> :<
4728<VereorPain> Teruzi: the gist of it is
4729<Bruticus> "Getting up is the fun part"
4730<Bruticus> You said it
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4732<VereorPain> We had a debate that would have made Tumblr proud
4733<Luminifera> I'm not rapist against people who like climbing
4734<OliveB> snerk
4735<Luminifera> I largely ignore tumblr arguments xD
4736<VereorPain> Long story short, situation is tense.
4737<Luminifera> I don't know how some of the girls can manage t.
4738OliveB is now known as Olivebirdy
4739<Luminifera> they get legit threats. if I ever got a threat I'd be so scared I'd delete like all my social media accounts ever
4740<Chime> thus far i have managed to avoid just about all the apps that omit a vowel before the final 'r'
4741<Olivebirdy> Okay, so some people believe that men should be taught not to rape.
4742<Olivebirdy> Which is um, misguided?
4743<Chime> why are you necroing this
4744<Elara> even Grindr Chime?
4745<Elara> ;)
4746<Olivebirdy> Because I think it should be necroed.
4747<Chime> hehe, even grindr
4748<Teruzi> oh man grindr
4749<Teruzi> what a weird experience that grindr is
4750<Elara> I am not touching this rape discussion again in chan. if anybody wants to PM me about it, I think it can be productively discussed one to one, but furballs like the one we had earlier go exactly nowhere
4751<Chime> ^
4752<Olivebirdy> #NoHoldsBarred
4753<Chime> that said, whao it's 10:00, i need to take a shower and go to work
4754<Chime> see you!
4755<Bruticus> What went down earlier?
4756<%JENTHULHU> alright people
4757<%JENTHULHU> time to bake a cake
4758<Elara> basically because between Mishie, Olive, Vern, Mega and Glern, there was far too much stuff to respond to at once, so stuff was just getting missed
4759<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus, go get the eggs
4760<%JENTHULHU> Elara get the milk
4761<%JENTHULHU> Teruzi get the sugar
4762<Teruzi> wait what
4763<Bruticus> Cake time
4764<Olivebirdy> Olive?
4765• Elara: collects ten cows and sets up the milking machine. "We wanted a big cake, right?"
4766<Olivebirdy> I was barely involved.
4767• Bruticus: wants to make strata...
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4769<Luminifera> I think the thing starts much earlier and deeper
4770<Luminifera> "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
4771<Luminifera> it just wouldn't work
4772<Olivebirdy> No kidding
4773<Bruticus> "teaching boys not to rape" is a suggestion that would absolutely piss off a lot of people
4774<Bruticus> Myself included
4775<Olivebirdy> Because it implies that men do all the raping, which people confuse with 'all men are rapists'.
4776• Teruzi: reads the Rhet logs
4777• Teruzi: makes a pained expression
4778<Luminifera> hahaha
4779<Teruzi> Vern
4780<Teruzi> you shitter
4781<Luminifera> xD
4782• VereorPain: hugs Teruzi
4783<VereorPain> I was dying man
4784<Teruzi> you shitterrrrrrrrr
4785<VereorPain> He Tore me apart
4786<Teruzi> man, way to make him feel even worse
4787<Luminifera> ugh olive don't start with the girls rape too thing
4788<Luminifera> please dont
4789<%JENTHULHU> alright
4790<%JENTHULHU> people
4791<%JENTHULHU> as half-op
4792<%JENTHULHU> it is my official suggestion
4793<Luminifera> are you afraid of walking alone at night because a woman might rape you? :(
4794<Luminifera> okay
4795<Olivebirdy> Facts are facts, Lumi, even if they don't conform to your opinion.
4796<%JENTHULHU> that we drop the rape discussion
4797• Teruzi: shoos Olive and Lumi
4798<Olivebirdy> #NoHoldsBarred
4799<%JENTHULHU> people are just going to get pissed off and angry and it won't go well
4800<Luminifera> facts are: boys just don't feel afraid of that
4801<Olivebirdy> ;)
4802<Luminifera> :P
4803<Teruzi> says you Lumi
4804<Luminifera> you hypochrite
4805<Teruzi> you've never walked the alleys -I- walk
4806<soulpelt|class> please for the love of god drop it.
4807<Teruzi> anyways what I was saying
4808<Teruzi> VERN
4809<Teruzi> HE WAS HOMESCHOOLED
4810<Teruzi> AND YOU MADE HIM FEEL WORSE
4811<Bruticus> That's because of physical differences, Lumi
4812<Teruzi> that was unnecessary
4813<Luminifera> no he didnt
4814<Luminifera> rhet got out of that conversation completely unscathed
4815<Bruticus> Women are more likely to rape via using alcohol
4816<%JENTHULHU> AHEM
4817<Luminifera> and now he's sleeping peacefully
4818<%JENTHULHU> I
4819<%JENTHULHU> SUGGEST
4820<Luminifera> like a baby
4821<Luminifera> tiny baby
4822<%JENTHULHU> that everyone either drops the rape discussion
4823<%JENTHULHU> or takes it elsewhere
4824<Luminifera> smol, sheltered home schooled baby
4825<soulpelt|class> Lumi is a smol summer child. :p
4826<panth> All of you are smol
4827<panth> Even Chime.
4828<Teruzi> that word pains me
4829<panth> Especially Tuzi.
4830<panth> ;D
4831• panth: picks up Tuzi and waves him about
4832• Teruzi: sighs
4833• Mishie: stares at Luminifera
4834• panth: puts Tuzi down gently
4835<Teruzi> I'm pretty sure you would be great at carrying me around Panth
4836<@Mishie> how are you so tumblr
4837<@Mishie> hooooow
4838<Teruzi> Mishie please, don't say the T word
4839<Teruzi> that's just rude
4840<Teruzi> I can't even
4841<%JENTHULHU> Tumblr is best used for smut
4842<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
4843• VereorPain: tumblr triggers Teruzi
4844<VereorPain> Mishie:
4845<panth> I'm not sure actually, depending on your weight I guess? I'm capable of piggybacking 60-odd kg about, but that translates to very small people xD
4846<VereorPain> That's nthing
4847<VereorPain> Didyou ever see
4848• Luminifera: hugs spelt
4849<Teruzi> also Mishie you shitter
4850<Teruzi> you also are terrible
4851<panth> VereorPain, without the e's, would be VrorPain
4852<Luminifera> mishie why do you hate me so much? Jesus.
4853<panth> Vrorrrrrrrr
4854<@Mishie> any particular reason?
4855<Teruzi> I know it amuses you but at least -try- not to make fun of the homeschooled boy
4856<VereorPain> The list the tumblrrites channel did?
4857• soulpelt|class: huggles Luminifera
4858<@Mishie> Luminifera: hate is such a strong word
4859<@Mishie> but
4860<VereorPain> The "trigger warning for every Worm chapter" list?
4861<@Mishie> the words you say are just so bad
4862<@Mishie> like
4863<panth> Though hm. Rhet's not homeschooled any more is he?
4864<Teruzi> well no
4865<Elara> Rhet is now at university panth
4866<panth> I mean he did end up at Texas A&M
4867<Teruzi> he's in fucking college, so I should hope so
4868<Luminifera> yeah
4869<@Mishie> people who say shit exactly like you do are what make the problem worse
4870<Luminifera> he has scholarships for being a very smart boy
4871<Luminifera> he's so cute
4872• Teruzi: pats Mishie
4873<Luminifera> ^-^
4874<Teruzi> yo Imma let you finish
4875<panth> He's on scholarship probation for not going to sleep when he's supposed to >;o
4876<Luminifera> hahaha
4877<Teruzi> but beyonce had the best video something something
4878<Luminifera> that too
4879<Elara> Vern how are you projecting the faults of a few people on a whole website, you're a derp
4880<@Mishie> Luminifera: basically, by making shit a huge personal attack, that's literally the worst way to do shit
4881<@Mishie> like
4882<%JENTHULHU> it makes you like a politician
4883<Luminifera> "huge personal attack"
4884• Teruzi: finishes reading logs
4885<Teruzi> oh man
4886<Luminifera> did I stab you
4887<Teruzi> look I'm giving you two shit
4888<Teruzi> but I would
4889<Luminifera> are you hurt
4890<Teruzi> SO
4891<Teruzi> make fun of him as well
4892<Teruzi> goddamm
4893<@Mishie> you're attacking an entire group
4894<@Mishie> also
4895<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  ugh olive don't start with the girls rape too thing
4896<Luminifera> I'm attacking you, you say
4897<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  please dont
4898<Luminifera> an entire group
4899<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  are you afraid of walking alone at night because a woman might rape you?
4900<Luminifera> I'm attacking them!!!! with spears.
4901<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
4902<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  it just wouldn't work
4903<@Mishie> lumi
4904<@Mishie> if you're just going to be a shit about this
4905<@Mishie> you can sit in time out
4906<Luminifera> mishie
4907<@Mishie> if you want to talk like an adult
4908<@Mishie> you can
4909<@Mishie> :)
4910<@Mishie> I
4911<Olivebirdy> Okay, so what would an 'adult' say?
4912<@Mishie> I'm really trying to be lenient and polite about things
4913<Olivebirdy> I can actually tell.
4914<@Mishie> but if you're not going to bother with that, it's literally proving my point
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4916<Teruzi> yeah, you're actually trying to be polite
4917<Teruzi> huh
4918<@Mishie> Luminifera: let me put it this way, if we both get sat down for a lecture about this topic in an attempt to reduce rape and ensure that people understand consent, should we get the same lecture?  And if not why?
4919<Luminifera> sigh
4920• panth: tries to remember if Mishie is male or female here
4921<Luminifera> if I give statistics you'll all just say I'm lying or demand proof even I I'm on a phone with very limited internet access
4922<@Mishie> please answer the question instead of being dramatic Luminifera :)
4923<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksptL/8c9674c91e.png
4924<@Mishie> I don't want statistics
4925<Luminifera> if I don't you'll demand something else
4926<@Mishie> answer the question
4927<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksqvJ/1f50b22487.png
4928<@Mishie> no
4929<Luminifera> what do you want then
4930<@Mishie> At no point
4931<@Mishie> have I asked for statistics Luminifera
4932<panth> But hm. I'd say the lecture would carry the same /principles/ but have very different advice in /application/?
4933<@Mishie> I have no asked for numbers
4934<Luminifera> because rape is a thing boys do at a startlingly higher rate than girls
4935<Luminifera> that's wy
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4937<@Mishie> so?
4938<Luminifera> because practically speaking
4939<Luminifera> in re a life
4940<panth> Clarvel: what are those
4941<@Mishie> no
4942<@Clarvel> spheres
4943<Luminifera> what actually happens
4944<panth> Yes but
4945<@Clarvel> I'm trying to implement shadows
4946<@Mishie> Luminifera: are you saying that at no point has a woman ever raped a man
4947<Luminifera> is that boys rape much more than girls do
4948<Luminifera> no
4949<@Mishie> or a woman raped a woman
4950<panth> Balloons? bubbles? random platonic ideal spheres?
4951<@Mishie> are you saying
4952<Luminifera> I fucing
4953<%JENTHULHU> Mishie
4954<@Clarvel> but the intersecting spheres are screwing up my calculations
4955<Luminifera> I don't have to do this.
4956<Elara> Mishie she clearly never said that
4957<Luminifera> Jesus fucking Christ.
4958<Luminifera> I'm so done.
4959<Elara> don't be a dick
4960<Luminifera> I'm so fucking done.
4961<@Clarvel> platonic ideal
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4964<@Mishie> so then
4965<@Mishie> Luminifera: should the lecture be the same
4966<@Mishie> Should I learn how to ensure that I am safe
4967<panth> Ah cool
4968<Luminifera> boys are idiots who literally refuse to self-educate, and hate you when they ask you to educate them
4969<@Mishie> and should you learn how to respect your partners consents
4970<Luminifera> I'm so done
4971<@Mishie> hey uh
4972<@Mishie> question
4973<Luminifera> see y'all later
4974<panth> Wonder if it'd be easier in a white-lit background or something
4975<@Clarvel> Luminifera: don't blame the whole on the few
4976<@Mishie> are you going to just keep making insulting generalizations?
4977<panth> The black surroundings don't make the shadows any easier to see
4978<@Mishie> like
4979<%JENTHULHU> do we have to educate against murder?
4980<Elara> Clarvel that is a true thing to say, but depending on what Lumi's personal experience is calling it "the few" might be a bit off, y'know?
4981<@Mishie> well
4982Jon is now known as Surarrin
4983<@Clarvel> Elara: true but lums is talking incredibly broadly
4984<@Mishie> JENTHULHU: I fail to see how having people being educated in ways to prevent anger/rage issues or how to defend themselves is a bad things
4985<@Mishie> like
4986<@Mishie> realtalk
4987Surarrin is now known as Jon
4988<@Clarvel> as in roughly half the population
4989<Elara> sure
4990<@Mishie> education in order to prevent murder seems like a pretty darn great idea
4991<%JENTHULHU> alright
4992<%JENTHULHU> HOW do you do it
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4994<@Clarvel> panth: http://puu.sh/ksqWv/6fffc9cad2.png
4995<Teruzi> how do you do what? properly educating people against rape?
4996<@Mishie> literally just gave two suggestions
4997<%JENTHULHU> well
4998<Elara> and yeah, we educate against murder. every time you tell a kid "you don't hit to get what you want" you're educating in a small way against murder
4999<@Mishie> like
5000<Teruzi> well for starters you could start by educating people about the nature of sexual abuse
5001<@Mishie> are you literally saying
5002<@Mishie> "well, we can't stop every murder/rape via education so we shouldn't try at all"
5003<%JENTHULHU> alright, let me be a bit more clear
5004<@Mishie> because I really hope I'm wrong in getting that vibe
5005<@Mishie> and I think we're getting a bit away from the topic of Luminifera never answering my question
5006<@Mishie> without being insulting
5007<@Mishie> :)
5008<Teruzi> what are preconceptions about it that keep people quiet or make people never seek help. Then you can segue into the rape talk. Which of course, would take in consideration the fact that women are indeed at a highest risk of rape. But that doesn't mean that all men are rapists. Which is the clear implication of what Lumi is saying.
5009<Elara> why are you so fixated on that one question Mishie?
5010<Teruzi> There's a big fucking difference.
5011<Elara> what do you gain from it?
5012<panth> Clarvel: ...hrrrrrh
5013<@Clarvel> ?
5014<panth> Maybe it's too much shadow or the light source needs moving?
5015<VereorPain> Elara: why  am I not allowed to blame Tumblr as a whole
5016<panth> Like I think it's tough because we're looking at the dark side
5017<VereorPain> When  Lumi is blaming half the human race?
5018<@Mishie> Elara: because I'm curious if she'll admit to how biased she's being
5019<@Mishie> that's all
5020<@Mishie> :)
5021<VereorPain> That seems incredibly sexist.
5022<@Clarvel> no, I know what the problem is: the intersecting spheres are not properly blocking the ray when I'm testing
5023<@Clarvel> but I dont know how to fix
5024<Elara> I talk to Lumi about blaming all boys, in ways that are more productive than half the chan shouting at her
5025<panth> ...oh
5026<Elara> I talk to you about blaming whole groups
5027<Elara> please don't assume I'm being unfair
5028• panth: doesn't even know where the ray is coming from Clarvel
5029<@Mishie> just asking a single question waiting for an answer
5030<@Mishie> ;)
5031<@Mishie> :) *
5032<@Clarvel> the light scource
5033<@Clarvel> :)
5034<Elara> Mishie I can see defensible reasons to have separate lectures
5035<Teruzi> your spheres are becoming more sophisticated Clarv
5036<Teruzi> I almost said balls
5037<@Mishie> Elara: such as?
5038<@Clarvel> Teruzi: ikr
5039<Elara> personally I'd opt to have the same ones
5040<@Mishie> but even if the exact details are different
5041<@Mishie> the topics should be the same
5042<Teruzi> well Mishie, it's a fact that rape victims don't always seek help or make denounces out of shame and guilt
5043<Elara> but for example you might believe that men will take the material more seriously if it's delivered by a man saying "right lads, realtalk, this shit won't fly"
5044<VereorPain> Lumi shuts down whenever under scrutiny. She apologizes and leaves to avoid the topic instead of becoming increasingly confrontational, unable to continue to argue her point in an environment that doesn't seem to share her opinion.
5045<@Mishie> Elara: which is a difference between tone and content
5046<@Mishie> wait, poorly worded
5047<Teruzi> separating the classes by gender would help alleviate some of this feelings with teenagers, enabling a more frank discussion
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5050<@Mishie> rephrasing
5051<Chime> irc is used by many to be recreational, it's fair not to want to deal with heavy shit in the middle of recreational activities
5052<Elara> Vern maybe she doesn't want to have a massive fucking fight
5053<@Mishie> Elara: that issue falls under presentation and tone, not under the content of the lecture
5054<Teruzi> HOWEVER this would mean that women and men would probably get two completely different educations, which is bad 'cause then empathizing with the other gender would be considerably harder
5055<@Mishie> Elara: how is this a massive fight
5056<@Mishie> like
5057<Elara> maybe she's been socialised her entire life to back down from confrontation
5058<VereorPain> Chime: doesn't fly with the way she joined into the conversation
5059<VereorPain> I quote
5060<@Mishie> this is a hilariously tame irc convo
5061<Teruzi> this is Mishie using the kiddie gloves
5062<@Mishie> also
5063<@Mishie> also
5064<VereorPain> "hahahahahahahahahahaa
5065<VereorPain> "hahahahahahahahahahahaha
5066<@Mishie> aaaaalssooooo
5067<@Mishie> quick question
5068<VereorPain> "Jesus fuck hahahahahaha"
5069<@Mishie> who was the one slinging around insults
5070<Teruzi> then again, I agree that you two are railing too hard on her
5071<@Mishie> laughing instead of answering
5072<Teruzi> give the girl a break
5073<Teruzi> no one was born learned
5074<panth> VereorPain: I see that as a sort of bitter laughter kind of thing tbh
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5076<@Mishie> LOOK AT HOW NICE I AM
5077<Elara> eh, she has some legitimate rage
5078<@Mishie> NOT EVEN TAKING THAT OPENING FOR A JOKE
5079<Elara> maybe she doesn't express it that well
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5081<@Mishie> WHY TERUZI
5082<@Mishie> ;-;
5083<Elara> but nor does Vern
5084<Teruzi> look man
5085<Elara> so eh
5086<Teruzi> I'm bad at just slinging shit to one side
5087<VereorPain> The only thing I got pissed at as the dismissive laughter and her accusation that I'm a woman hater because I'm. Not a fan or relationships
5088<@Mishie> do you not know how hard it is for me to resist taking your openings Teruzi
5089<@Mishie> ;)
5090<Teruzi> but yes, Mishie your effort is noted
5091<Teruzi> :D
5092<panth> VereorPain: I honestly don't see her laughter as dismissive
5093<Teruzi> I expected you to break back then
5094<@Mishie> ;)
5095<Elara> you can be pretty dismissive of women Vern
5096<@Mishie> I live to surprise
5097<Teruzi> that you can, Vern, I blame the ex
5098<panth> Bitter, or sarcastic, maybe? In a "are you really seriously asking this?" way?
5099<Teruzi> that's fine, but in this kind of discussion
5100<Teruzi> the last thing anyone wants to be
5101<VereorPain> Citation needed, Elara.
5102<Teruzi> is dismissive
5103<@Mishie> Elara: and lets be real, this is nowhere near the first time that Lumi has acted like this
5104<@Mishie> at all
5105<Elara> fine Vern, I will try to remember to cite you next time you do it
5106<Elara> Mishie I know
5107<@Mishie> which is why I find it so annoying
5108<@Mishie> that she finds it alright to snipe
5109<@Mishie> lay in with insults
5110<@Mishie> and then bail
5111<@Mishie> at the very least, when I do that shit I do it deliberately to fuck with people
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5113<VereorPain> The problem is that most of Lumi's defense when she offends someone is 'I didn't mean to'.
5114<@Mishie> hell
5115<@Mishie> the way she was acting before was literally how I act when I'm trying to fuck with the derps in #wd
5116<Elara> my impression is that she starts the conversation, she gets dogpiled, then she nopes out
5117<@Mishie> and I can't be fucked to put in any effort
5118<VereorPain> But her, guess what, not meaning to doesn't flym
5119<@Mishie> yeah well, from what she's said of her home town
5120<@Mishie> she should be used to that
5121<@Mishie> :|
5122<Teruzi> that's my impression as well, but then again, she goes out of her way to generalize all men as children that are rapists and refuse education
5123<Teruzi> and that's just grating
5124<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksrv3/fe4ba0ae5c.png my shadows are backwards
5125<@Clarvel> ;_;
5126<Elara> yeah she's more than used to it Mishie
5127<Elara> that's why she fucking nopes out
5128<Teruzi> just add a minus sign Clarv
5129<Elara> she's had enough of it
5130<@Mishie> except if she's going to say shit
5131<@Clarvel> thats no
5132<@Mishie> either she stands by it
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5134<@Clarvel> t gonna work tuz
5135<VereorPain> Those are some nice balls you got there, clarvel
5136<Elara> yeah, she generalises pretty badly Tuzi
5137<@Clarvel> it's mostly positional data
5138<@Mishie> or is prepared to get hit
5139<panth> Clarvel: I'm guessing the light source is just over the horizon of the upper ball, out of sight?
5140<@Clarvel> yes
5141<@Clarvel> and a little closr to camera
5142<@Mishie> like holy shit what did she expect to happen when she says shit like that
5143<Elara> not gonna deny that, it's a thing that happens. she ain't the only one, but yeah
5144<panth> In which case some of the shadows are... yeah, backwards xD
5145<@Mishie> for everybody to go "yeah, I rape people all the time, in fact I'm literally raping somebody right now"
5146<panth> The little nubbins'
5147<Elara> Mishie I think you are rather misinterpreting what she actually said
5148<@Clarvel> yup
5149<@Mishie> "yeah, all guys want to be rapists and should be treated as such"
5150<Olivebirdy> I'm back. what's up?
5151<Elara> not what she said
5152<Teruzi> same ol'
5153<panth> ...Olivebirdy we're still stuck
5154<@Clarvel> problem right now is the ray returns the closest point hit, which is great for camer but shitty for shadows
5155<Olivebirdy> YAy!
5156<Elara> you lot inferred it
5157<Teruzi> what's camer
5158<Olivebirdy> Okay, so what's the question?
5159<@Clarvel> camera
5160<panth> Camera I'm guess
5161<Teruzi> well to be fair, the implication is pretty obvious
5162<panth> *ing
5163<panth> Yep
5164<Teruzi> ah, I see
5165<@Clarvel> can we stop talking about lumi
5166<@Clarvel> please
5167<Teruzi> yes, sure
5168<panth> Hmmm
5169<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
5170<panth> Can't the ray return the farthest point or something
5171<Elara> ok Mishie, as you say "realtalk"
5172<Teruzi> I-I say realtalk
5173<@Clarvel> Mishie: Elara: drop it
5174<@Mishie> sadly I can't go back further for the other gems
5175<Elara> areet Clar
5176<@Mishie> rip my logs
5177<@Clarvel> seriously
5178<panth> Mishie could you uh PM Lumi or something and educate her your gentle way
5179<panth> >_>
5180<Elara> no Mishie don't
5181<Throne3d> Hey guys...
5182<@Mishie> panth: no point
5183<@Mishie> she'll just afk
5184<Elara> PM me if you wanna, leave Lumi alone for now
5185<@Clarvel> hey Truth
5186<@Clarvel> Throne3d:
5187• Mishie: shrugs
5188<Throne3d> Lol
5189<@Clarvel> shh
5190<@Mishie> I got dragged back into this derpery
5191<Truth> yes Clarvel?
5192<@Clarvel> mishie just stop replying
5193<panth> I mean it's all very enlightening but uhhh getting bit toxic (and really there's no point to it since she's afk)
5194<@Clarvel> not u Truth, no one wants the Truth
5195<Throne3d> I was confused earlier when I saw the chat, I'm confused now...
5196<panth> Aaaaaanyway
5197<@Mishie> mainly because glernaj was also saying derpy shit
5198<panth> Hey Throne3d
5199<Throne3d> Hey!
5200<Truth> plenty of people want me
5201<Throne3d> I like the truth.
5202<Throne3d> Truth, however, not so sure about.
5203<Throne3d> :P
5204<panth> The whole Truth?
5205<panth> And nothing but the Truth?
5206<Throne3d> And nothing but the truth?
5207<Throne3d> Dammit.
5208<panth> HA IMP'D
5209<@Clarvel> hey Truth are you blind?
5210<Elara> the Truth shall make you fret
5211<Truth> well my eyes suck
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5213<panth> And that's the gospel Truth
5214<Elara> nono it's justice that's blind
5215<Elara> ayy Lacks
5216<Lacks> G'day Elara.  How's it goin'?
5217<Elara> the chan's been derping about rape
5218<Elara> on the bright side, I have an interview a week today
5219<Teruzi> speaking of which
5220<Elara> \o/
5221<Elara> how're you?
5222<Teruzi> hey Clarvel why don't I have a cool % sign next my name?
5223<VereorPain> Hello lacks
5224<Teruzi> Sage does and she's never here
5225<Teruzi> :<
5226<@Clarvel> because uhh
5227<Teruzi> what's with this discrimination
5228<@Mishie> well
5229<VereorPain> No, Elara, we're being offends by shitty opinions. Ll
5230<@Clarvel> you didn't make the cut last time?
5231<@Mishie> because Sage used to be cool
5232<@Clarvel> ^
5233<Teruzi> aw man
5234Mishie sets mode +v Teruzi
5235<@Mishie> done
5236<+Teruzi> I'll take it
5237<@Clarvel> but once she got % she stopped coming by
5238<Lacks> VereorPain, huh?  Eye still a problem.
5239<@Mishie> yeah
5240<@Clarvel> I vote Teruzi replaces Sage
5241<@Mishie> it was p awkward timing
5242<Lacks> Also, good stuff Elara.  Interview for a good job, I assume?
5243<@Mishie> HMMM
5244<VereorPain> It got a bit worse, lacks
5245<Elara> Vern I said the chan in general, not anyone in specific. <3 you (mostly :P )
5246<Lacks> Oh dear...
5247<VereorPain> Seems like it's ocular herpes
5248<Lacks> How'd you manage that?
5249<+Teruzi> look if you need my resume
5250<VereorPain> Good question, I'm not sure.
5251<Elara> hoping it's a good job. signs are good so far, I'ma do some digging, see if the company holds up
5252<+Teruzi> I'm sorta ok to not go apeshit on people
5253<@Clarvel> and at least 3 refrences from the damned
5254<@Mishie> give me a sec
5255<VereorPain> Sure as hell nobody jizzed into my eye :|
5256<+Teruzi> and I promise I can curb bad conversations with a gentle but firm buttslap
5257<@Mishie> to remember how to set hops
5258<+Teruzi> like a loving father
5259<@Mishie> look
5260<panth> VereorPain: maybe it was your own jizz
5261<@Clarvel> ./mode +h Teruzi
5262<@Mishie> if I can remember how to permaset hops
5263<@Mishie> before I stop giving a shit
5264<Lacks> Yeah, Vern...  that's usually easy to rule out.
5265<@Clarvel> permset no idea
5266<@Mishie> Teruzi gets the job
5267<+Teruzi> <3 Clarv
5268<+Teruzi> <3 Mishie
5269<Lacks> Good stuff, Elara.  Good luck with it.
5270<@Mishie> so it's basically Teruzi vs my apathy
5271<VereorPain> But yeah, it is what it is
5272<panth> Pretty unfair fight that
5273<+Teruzi> well I'm gonna milk your lack of apathy
5274<+Teruzi> :D
5275<@Mishie> eh
5276<panth> VereorPain: so does that mean amputation :3
5277<Elara> thanks! if I can rid myself of the damn commute, hopefully more writing time? XD
5278<VereorPain> No.
5279<panth> Elara: YESSSS MORE WRITING
5280<@Mishie> sadly you've hit me in the middle of marathoning a show
5281<Lacks> Ideally, yeah.
5282<+Teruzi> dang
5283<Elara> that would be good right panth? :)
5284<panth> DISC/WORM SNIP ELARA PLS
5285<+Teruzi> it was worth a try
5286<@Clarvel> Teruzi: you are registered, correct?
5287<panth> Yes it would
5288<+Teruzi> yeah
5289<panth> I would totally want to read Granny mouthing off at Scion
5290<Elara> I still dunno how I'd approach a Disc/Worm snip tho panth
5291Mishie kicked Teruzi from the channel (rejoin quick)
5292<Throne3d> Lack... of apathy...
5293<Throne3d> So... the fact they actually care?
5294<Throne3d> xD
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5297<panth> Elara: with aplomb, skill, and your typical Britishness!
5298<@Mishie> jfc who doesn't have ajoin
5299<%Teruzi> I BREATHE
5300<@Mishie> ayyyyy
5301<@Mishie> I'm a god
5302<Throne3d> Je fume.
5303<%Teruzi> you are
5304<Throne3d> Wait, nope, that doesn't mean breathe.
5305<Throne3d> :D
5306<panth> xD
5307<Throne3d> (I actually breathe, not smoke)
5308<%Teruzi> I don't have ajoin, 'cause I care
5309<@Clarvel> ayy
5310<%Teruzi> I even type each name
5311<@Mishie> just a frondly reminder
5312<Throne3d> frondly?
5313<@Mishie> topic says respect ops
5314<Throne3d> Like... leafly?
5315<@Mishie> not hops
5316<@Mishie> :|
5317<panth> With fronds like these, who needs anemones?
5318<@Clarvel> gj mish
5319<%Teruzi> if people were respectful to me, how would I get off?
5320<%Teruzi> it sounds horrid!
5321<@Mishie> ;)
5322<Throne3d> o.e
5323<panth> ...
5324• panth: head tilts at Tuzi
5325• Teruzi: winks
5326• panth: scuttles behind Elara
5327<@Mishie> silly panth
5328<@Mishie> running only makes him harder
5329<@Mishie> :|
5330<%Teruzi> :D
5331<@Clarvel> thts why he scuttled
5332<panth> D:
5333• panth: scuttles /harder/
5334<@Mishie> lood
5335<Elara> right, fuck this shit I'm goin' home o/
5336<@Mishie> toodles
5337<Lacks> Later
5338<@Clarvel> bai
5339<%Teruzi> alright Clarv
5340<%Teruzi> more photos of your balls if you please
5341<%Teruzi> I'm sure you'll get the shadows just right eventually
5342<@Clarvel> takin a break
5343<@Clarvel> gonna ask TA to put slides online after class
5344<%Teruzi> that would be useful
5345<@Mishie> or just keep pming Teruzi pics of your balls
5346<%Teruzi> I mean, I won't be able to help
5347<%Teruzi> but I can appreciate 'em
5348<@Mishie> wait
5349<@Mishie> that's not what you told me
5350<%Teruzi> shh
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5354<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/7gfSN
5355<%Teruzi> TIL orcas are fucking terrifying
5356<Throne3d> That's...
5357<Throne3d> Kinda scary?
5358<%Teruzi> did you see the orca lifting a seal and kinda
5359<%Teruzi> breaking it?
5360<Throne3d> Beaching it?
5361<%Teruzi> no she beached it first, then just chomped down
5362<%Teruzi> also, if raptors can open doors
5363<%Teruzi> orcas can make waves
5364<VereorPain> Holy
5365<VereorPain> Holy shit
5366<VereorPain> My mother just now
5367<VereorPain> "I know we've been refugees as well, but those Syrians are just bad people, we shouldn't let them in."
5368<%Teruzi> isn't she like
5369<%Teruzi> turk
5370<VereorPain> My mother hates Germany, Jews AND refugees. The Holy trinity of racism.
5371<%Teruzi> haha
5372<VereorPain> Lebanese, teruzi
5373<%Teruzi> right, sorry
5374<%Teruzi> well I do hope you said something on the lines of
5375<%Teruzi> "well I mean, you got in"
5376<%Teruzi> "it's not like they have high standards"
5377<%Teruzi> or at the very least sighed very dramatically
5378<VereorPain> I did say the first part, not the second one
5379<soulpelt|class> man
5380<%Teruzi> don't let your dreams be dreams
5381<VereorPain> And she went 'but I know how Syrians are, we had some of them in Lebanon for a time'
5382<soulpelt|class> Poor Syrians man
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5384<VereorPain> I can tell you first hand hoe they are
5385<%Teruzi> "well mom the had lebanese at lebanon too but they ended up kicking them out to germany"
5386<VereorPain> Because the building next to our school
5387<VereorPain> Will be turned into a refugee camp
5388<VereorPain> In a few weeks
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5390<soulpelt|class> ayyyy Chrono|Class
5391<soulpelt|class> feeling better?
5392<Chrono|Class> eeeh
5393<Chrono|Class> not overly so
5394<soulpelt|class> D:
5395<Chrono|Class> totes ready to learn factored terms tho
5396<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/peWoezb
5397<Chrono|Class> entirely prepared for this learn
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5399<soulpelt|class> hahaha
5400<Olivebirdy> Whooo
5401<Olivebirdy> All caught up.
5402<Chrono|Class> its that really awful dry cough
5403<Chrono|Class> and a p much constantly running nose
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5405<%Teruzi> you should grab an onion
5406<%Teruzi> then boil it in milk
5407<%Teruzi> then you add pepper
5408<%Teruzi> and you drink i
5409<%Teruzi> t
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5412<Megafire> Hello folks.
5413<Chrono|Class> I'll consider it
5414<Chrono|Class> When I'm not in class
5415<Yewnyx> wow.
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5417<Yewnyx> i missed a lot last night.
5418<Chrono|Class> Got the hops, tuz?
5419<%Teruzi> yes!
5420<Chrono|Class> nice
5421<%Teruzi> I bothered people
5422<%Teruzi> crying might have been involved
5423<Chrono|Class> I put you & Thalia on the Epoch sheet
5424<cukier> Guys. Guys. I'm programming and things work. I'm happy.
5425<cukier> :)
5426<Chrono|Class> Careful, something is going to go to shit very soon
5427<Chrono|Class> it is inevitible
5428<cukier> Oh no. :(
5429<%Teruzi> <3
5430<%Teruzi> have faith cukier
5431<cukier> Why are you so moodkiller?
5432<%Teruzi> it will be a small thing
5433<%Teruzi> minuscule
5434<%Teruzi> so small, you won't be able to see it.
5435<cukier> :)
5436<%Teruzi> you won't be able to fix it either, but hey
5437<cukier> I mean things don't work all the time, but I'm learning how to make them work.
5438<cukier> And there are solutions.
5439<cukier> So all is good.
5440<Chrono|Class> Do you have a character sheet for Flow, Teruzi
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5443<keyonte0> Gangplank makes a damn good Bruiser with the Juggernaut items, dunno why people don't try it.
5444<%Teruzi> 'cause there's better options
5445<%Teruzi> ones that don't involve someone with a gun
5446<%Teruzi> going melee
5447<keyonte0> Glass cannon, I know
5448<keyonte0> But he still does an absurd amount of damage as a bruiser while being obscenely hard to kill or pin down.
5449<keyonte0> I went Lucidity boots, Triforce, Sterak's Gage, Deadman's Plate, and Spirit Visage.
5450<%Teruzi> oh man, I've played so little lol lately
5451<%Teruzi> I don't even know what Sterak -is-
5452<keyonte0> Was thinking about finishing up with Titanic Hydra just because I had an extra slot and didn't know what to do with it.
5453<cukier> Hmm... I should make a backup of my code.
5454<keyonte0> http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sterak's_Gage
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5457<keyonte0> It increases BASE AD, meaning it synergizes with Trinity  Force.
5458<%Teruzi> huh, neat
5459<VereorPain> My eye
5460<VereorPain> Hurts in every was imaginable
5461<Chrono|Class> It hurts in latin?
5462<VereorPain> way*
5463<%Teruzi> Vern, is it getting worse?
5464<VereorPain> It feels worse
5465<%Teruzi> did you go to the doctor]?
5466<VereorPain> yes
5467<VereorPain> Twice
5468<VereorPain> And I got another appointment on Thurstday
5469<VereorPain> Thursday*
5470<keyonte0> My full build made Gangplank extremely agile and burst resistant, so I was both a bitch to catch, and a bitch to kill when I actually got caught.
5471<keyonte0> Essentially just letting me drop barrels where I please.
5472<keyonte0> And they still did a lot of damage.
5473<%Teruzi> too bad they do little to nothing
5474<keyonte0> They still chunk people hard.
5475<keyonte0> And slow.
5476<keyonte0> So I got the utility in there.
5477<Megafire> Damn, Vern.
5478<Yewnyx> how's your health insurance?
5479<%Teruzi> german
5480<Yewnyx> also this is why i like onemedical, because i can just email my doctor for stuff like this
5481<VereorPain> It's German
5482<VereorPain> Thank you for asking
5483• VereorPain: high-fives Teruzi
5484<%Teruzi> :D
5485• Teruzi: high-fives
5486<Yewnyx> ah.
5487• Yewnyx: has $500/mo health insurance
5488<Yewnyx> not that i use it.
5489<Yewnyx> company used to pay for the bulk of it, I'm on COBRA
5490<VereorPain> Here your insurance is paid in part by your employer, and in part by taxes taken off your income
5491<VereorPain> But if you are unnable to play this yourself due to a lack of job
5492<VereorPain> The government takes care of that
5493<Yewnyx> yeah, i know
5494<Yewnyx> my cousins are german
5495<%Teruzi> it's a pretty ok deal
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5497<VereorPain> Yeah, there
5498<%Teruzi> being awake by day
5499<%Teruzi> is so boring
5500<%Teruzi> why do people do this
5501<Yewnyx> what do you mean?
5502<howl> cultural bias
5503<howl> light didn't used to be cheap and plentiful
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5506<tubes> wait Teruzi do they do the whole "eat dinner at 10pm, go to bed at 4am at the earliest" thing in south america
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5508<%Teruzi> no it's just me
5509<%Teruzi> and I ate dinner at like
5510<%Teruzi> 4 am
5511<%Teruzi> maybe
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5513<%Teruzi> otherwise dinner times vary wildly
5514<%Teruzi> on one hand in Colombia
5515<%Teruzi> dinner tends to be 7-8
5516<%Teruzi> Argentina is all over the fuckin place
5517<%Teruzi> like 8-11
5518<%Teruzi> even on week days
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5522<OliveB> Also because light triggers certain biological cycles.
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5524<cukier> #triggerwarning
5525<Moloch> ?
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5528<Moloch> speak of the devil
5529<cukier> <OliveB>  Also because light triggers certain biological cycles.
5530<OliveB> Oi.
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5533<Moloch> oh boy the party is starting
5534<OliveB> cookie: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic.htm
5535<OliveB> It's a good article
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5538<Megafire> Hello Calmaxe.
5539<Megafire> Really enjoyed this Twig chapter.
5540<@Wildbow> Thank you!
5541<@Wildbow> I'm glad
5542• Wildbow: just got back from a grocery run to find the larger of the dogs he's dogsitting had diarrhea in the house.
5543<Megafire> Oh god.
5544<Megafire> That sounds absolutely terrible.
5545<@Wildbow> This is a dog that walks as she poops
5546<%Teruzi> oh
5547<%Teruzi> ew
5548<Megafire> So now you have a trail all over the carpet?
5549<@Wildbow> Thankfully, -thankfully- on hardwood.
5550<@Wildbow> With splashback/spray on three separate walls in the office.
5551<Megafire> Ew.
5552• Wildbow: nods
5553<Megafire> I am so glad I had an early dinner today, because that would easily kill my appetite.
5554<%Teruzi> I do hope you cleaned before logging in
5555<Megafire> Holy shit.
5556<@Wildbow> Got up at 10, let dogs out, came back, went to grocery store, came back to crime scene.
5557<@Wildbow> Was about 11:30
5558<@Wildbow> Just wrapped up now at... 1:05
5559<%Teruzi> sheesh
5560<Megafire> I would be in the mood for a scalding hot shower after that.
5561<Moloch> oh god
5562<Moloch> that's disgusting
5563<%Teruzi> is the dog ok?
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5565<OliveB> Yeah, that was a good chapter.
5566<OliveB> Did Sy pull BAd Cop, Good Cop on purpose, or was that a lucky coincidence?
5567<@Wildbow> Yeah
5568<@Wildbow> Dog is ok
5569<@Wildbow> It's a twice-a-year thing for her
5570<@Wildbow> There's a prescription medication sitting on the counter right now, that I've started giving her
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5572<@Wildbow> It just happened that this year's (second?) explosion happened while I was dogsitting
5573<%Teruzi> a streak of bad luck
5574<%Teruzi> and poop
5575<Elara> Ayy Wilbur o/
5576<@Wildbow> Health problems from being a puppy farm dog
5577<@Wildbow> o/
5578<OliveB> :p
5579<@Wildbow> I'm just glad it was on hardwood and not on the carpet or the tile in the front hallway.
5580<%Teruzi> indeed
5581<Moloch> ohohoho
5582<OliveB> I could make a horrible pun about dogshitting.
5583<@Wildbow> I've dealt with the problem on the tile on a previous year.  It's irregular tile with texture to it, and it's mottled.
5584<OliveB> In fact, I just did :)
5585<OliveB> yuck
5586<@Wildbow> Took me 2.5 hours to clean up well enough that I was sure
5587<OliveB> Yuck, again
5588<Elara> But cracks in the wood, no?
5589<Elara> I mean, our cat's been weeing everywhere because she's stressed by moving house, but I'd rather she did that on the tile than on the wood
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5591<@Wildbow> My uncle is pretty good about taking care of the house, since he only works part-time doing odd jobs.  The laminate seems fresh and there seems to be a good seal between the wood slats.
5592<@Wildbow> But there's nothing I can really do if it has seeped in - I was meticulous and on a final wipe-down with spray, the paper towel came back clean.
5593<Megafire> Yet another reason I don't have a dog.
5594<Elara> even with all that, I still want a dog :(
5595<@Wildbow> I recommended Mr. Money Mustache to a bunch of other writers the other day, got to reading the blog again.
5596<Megafire> The primary reason is that my landlord doesn't allow me to have pets.
5597<@Wildbow> Lots of talk about the pros and cons of dogs, especially financially, given the nature of the blog.
5598<Antioch> As long as the disinfectant seeps in too!
5599<@Wildbow> (I was a little annoyed at the obvious disparity between his 'you want a dog, you're being dumb!' and 'you're allowed to have only one kid!' with no mention of having none.  Pretty clear bias between the sets of articles.
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5601<@Wildbow> But got me thinking about the logistics of having a canine.
5602<Antioch> A lot of financial downsides to be sure but I'd generally say the mental health benefits outweigh the cost
5603<@Wildbow> That's my feeling
5604<%Teruzi> you get sick less with a dog as well
5605<@Wildbow> According to studies, having a dog has a concrete benefit to mental health & happiness.
5606<Lacks> +1 for having a dog being a good thing for mental health.
5607<@Wildbow> Having a baby has a detrimental health to both.
5608<Lacks> I've seen it first hand with my mom.
5609<@Wildbow> *detrimental effect
5610<Megafire> And cats
5611<Megafire> *?
5612<%Teruzi> eeeh
5613<%Teruzi> it has a half and half effect
5614<Antioch> Personally I'm fond of cats, but only certain ones
5615<@Wildbow> Cats do have a benefit, admittedly.
5616<Antioch> The old, fat sleepy ones that move once every 24 hrs
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5618<Antioch> I'm guessing having a dog has a physical health benefit as well, what with all the walks
5619<@Wildbow> I think the benefit of dogs is that they force you to be more adventurous and are more social as creatures.  That's good when you're like me.
5620<Oz> if you walk it
5621<soulpelt|> ayyyyy Antioch
5622<soulpelt|> Dogs are generally more social than cats
5623<soulpelt|> what being pack animals and all
5624<@Wildbow> Ehhhhh!
5625<Yewnyx> dogs interact with people, cats grace you with their presence from time to time, and I say this as a cat person :P
5626<Lacks> Dogs also benefit a schedule, I think.  They require walking, and that's something you need to work into your day if you have one.  Can't just sit around all day when you have a dog.
5627<Antioch> o7
5628<tubes> so why are we discussing the benefits of dogs vs cats vs infant humans as pets?
5629<@Wildbow> Because Wildbow just had to clean up a crime scene and it raised the question.
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5632<cukier> I want to go under the quilt, but I also want to work. I'm afraid that my brain would rather go to sleep if I'm in bed.
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5634<Antioch> Exit the quilt.
5635<cukier> :(
5636<cukier> I'm cold. And I'm missing a sock.
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5638<%JENTHULHU> All the spiders clap along with the music
5639<Megafire> :D
5640<@Clarvel> *clap*
5641<Megafire> Undertale is the best.
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5643<cukier> ./\(00)/\
5644<Antioch> Undertale is fantastic.
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5647<Megafire> I fucking love the Temmies.
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5650<%JENTHULHU> HOI
5651<cukier> o/
5652<@Clarvel> zop?
5653<Megafire> Did you know that 'hoi' is Dutch for 'hi'?
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5655<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/Gkz4pHy
5656<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/CotdFcA.gif
5657<Megafire> Why'd you have to pick something cute and turn it into something horrifying, Clarvel?
5658<@Clarvel> ...have you /met/ me?
5659<Megafire> ...
5660<Megafire> That is a fair point.
5661<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/1B0EQg0
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5663)
5664<@Clarvel> I post things that are cool/interesting and if it's really good/topical sometimes you get horror
5665<@Clarvel> plus eldrich things are just nifty
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5667<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/IPjC5mo
5668<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/Xw31jmc
5669<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/lYdQ05A
5670<Megafire> Someone really wore that to class.
5671<@Clarvel> yes
5672<Megafire> And those are awesome.
5673<howl> wonder what eldritch meant, before it meant eldritch
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5675<Megafire> Did the word exist?
5676<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/xS2hQjW.jpg
5677<@Wildbow> Eldritch relates to Old English El- (else) and rice (realm); also linked to Scottish variant 'elphrish'.  Used in the context of 'elf's realm'
5678<howl> First known usage 1508, possibly from the Middle English elfriche, meaning fairy kingdom.
5679<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/aGPkvQE.jpg
5680<howl> damn, ninjad
5681<@Wildbow> But took on the meaning of hideous and disconcerting.
5682<Megafire> Huh.
5683<Megafire> That's really interesting.
5684<howl> percent surprised Wildbow knew this: 0%
5685<soulpelt|> mhm
5686<soulpelt|> Was the Lovecraft the one who popularized it as being something so full of 'nope' you shouldn't be near it?
5687<OliveB> Boooowww, did Sy play Bad Cop, Good Cop on purpose? Please say yes :)
5688<@Wildbow> Already did
5689<@Wildbow> Read up
5690<OliveB> :D
5691<OliveB> Loooking up!
5692<OliveB> Oh, thought you were answering the dog question.
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5694<Elara> yay for etymology :D
5695<OliveB> I got suspicious...
5696<soulpelt|> Elara: did you see my Tinkers tech table?
5697<Elara> spelt no?
5698<soulpelt|> Elara lookit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16npLv6SUzc1vGebo3CjvlDwpUIyedMhq3jI2xTYXKGE/edit
5699<Elara> you cheeeeeky fuckers. wow
5700<Elara> so I've got this interview, right. coming up next week
5701<Elara> the recruiter phones me to *talk me through the usual questions this company asks* so I can prepare and have a better shot at getting the job
5702<Megafire> How nice of them.
5703<Lacks> Was it an actual interview?
5704<Lacks> Like, a sneaky on-the-phone interview sort of thing?
5705<@Wildbow> If it's a job you really need & want, then consider doing some research on who is who in the company, and the details on the company beyond the minor stuff.
5706<@Wildbow> I find that's usually big bonus points; I haven't ever had an interview and not gotten a job.
5707<@Wildbow> Getting the interview was always the problem.
5708<Elara> fortunately all the stuff she told me was pretty standard, so I don't feel like I'm cheating
5709<Elara> (if you can't write pseudocode to find the nth term in the Fibonacci sequence, what are you doing going for a programming job?)
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5711<Megafire> Wow, seriously?
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5713<Megafire> n = (n-1) + (n-2)
5714<Megafire> Right?
5715<Megafire> I didn't mess that up, did I
5716<Megafire> *?
5717<cukier> You did.
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5719<cukier> Well...
5720<Jemnyte> Unless you n value is literally 3
5721<Jemnyte> Yes
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5723<cukier> fib(n) = fib(n-1) + fib(n-2)