· 7 years ago · Feb 16, 2019, 01:58 AM
1Ryan_1998
2#0470
3Omega, Sam🔥 💥, Ace., Ethan, xTNAx02, Asianjesus, Cansky
4
5Ace. added Sam🔥 💥 to the group.02/08/2019
6You missed a call from Ace..02/08/2019
7Cansky02/08/2019
8https://desteria.com/community/forums/report-faction-claims.42/
9Ace.02/08/2019
10https://gyazo.com/3ce401fe579054c072c89a08da3e6b21
11Gyazo
12Gyazo
13
14https://youtu.be/5iXdwH5wWvQ
15YouTube
16Ace Herc
17Raid Alerts: Illegal use of Alt
18
19https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW5UhLqgzow
20YouTube
21Focused Bard
22Desteria pvp
23
24https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUcN764DzFw
25YouTube
26Focused Bard
27Goin taking no kb desteria
28
29https://gyazo.com/7f36138a38941b0f2284dad9524f09fc
30Gyazo
31Gyazo
32
33Ace.02/08/2019
34https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSQcuJ7UIKw&t=63s
35YouTube
36Coe Kane
37Skinny frail skeleton whiteboys use alerts
38Ace. added Ethan to the group.02/08/2019
39Ace.02/09/2019
40So its been a full 24 hrs. Have you taken a look at any if this?
41Cansky02/09/2019
42Yeah, I've seen Coe's, Bard's videos about kb that I already told you, the illegal use of alt- which I will talk to Management about
43Ace.02/09/2019
44What about the 8x7 cannon box claim?
45It was there long enough for Eo to take a screenshot, they weren't accidental claims.
46Cansky02/09/2019
47I needed coordinates for it
48Ace. added Asianjesus to the group.Last Sunday at 5:08 AM
49AsianjesusLast Sunday at 5:50 AM
50Cansky we have just bought a corner off a faction and it’s unfixable. So are you able to world edit out the whole base and all the walls?
51Now I understand you guys did this for a faction a few maps ago
52If you can’t then I can’t see a point in us playing
53We’re not asking for you to cheat for us. We just want a corner to start fresh. And it’s pretty much fried
54Grief*
55CanskyLast Sunday at 5:51 AM
56We can not do that
57AsianjesusLast Sunday at 6:08 AM
58Why?
59It’s literally a greifed corner
60Like surely there’s something you can manage
61CanskyLast Sunday at 6:09 AM
62Trench for yourself.
63I can not manage anything for you
64Ace.Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
65What's the update?
66CanskyLast Sunday at 2:32 PM
67About the nuisance claims, I see a report made that Tna had replied to about the situation. waiting on @Ethan 's reply there.
68Ace.Last Sunday at 2:38 PM
69What about the other reports?
70CanskyLast Sunday at 2:39 PM
71I'm leaving Coe's report open until we act on the alts and resolve it.
72Ace.Last Sunday at 2:39 PM
73I don't think Ethan will be replying to that report. If you'd like to share it with me, that'd be great.
74CanskyLast Sunday at 2:40 PM
75https://gyazo.com/8b36ea4b8c2eb126158685eebe9e9da7
76Gyazo
77Gyazo
78
79Ace.Last Sunday at 2:40 PM
80What about the illegal alt that stopped a map ending raid? We were 8 walls, 8 walls away. Until they pull out their handy illegal alt they've used and abused for the 6th time now to stop us from gemning sand. If we'd done the same thing, we'd still have our base.
81CanskyLast Sunday at 2:41 PM
82OmegaToday at 3:43 AM
83Talked to EO about this and need to ask if Lemon can remove the restriction in it completely. Raiders will just be responsible for recording defenders using sand gens to replace walls
84Ace.Last Sunday at 2:41 PM
85They're also moving to another server... I don't see how letting them abuse this restriction will benefit you.
86CanskyLast Sunday at 2:42 PM
87I just asked if there could be a punishment, and if so- what.
88Ace.Last Sunday at 2:42 PM
89So instead of giving them punishment, you planned on changing the rule... Okay...
90CanskyLast Sunday at 2:42 PM
91Mentioning the importance of the abuse.
92Nope.
93CanskyToday at 1:25 AM
94Thoughts on this and how we would punish for it? If we should?
95Ace.Last Sunday at 2:43 PM
96Idk, you're the admin, punish them accordingly.
97Who did you send that to?
98Wasn't me.
99CanskyLast Sunday at 2:43 PM
100This was my initial comment, keen on punishing them as the reason the plugin exists is to stop patching
101This is off of a management group chat for Admins and higher
102That's where I took the message from Omega
103Ace.Last Sunday at 2:45 PM
104About the claims, can't tna check when those two extra claims were unclaimed?
105They were obviously there for a long enough while for Ethan to be able to screenshot it and cannon into it.
106CanskyLast Sunday at 2:45 PM
107No unfortunately. We can check player specific command lines that they ran, but we have no clue of who to check, and the /f unclaim is all there is. No coordinates attached
108Ace.Last Sunday at 2:46 PM
109I was told GetNuked was disbanded 3 maps ago for having 1 extra chunk on a cannon box. These guys have 2.
110He gave you coorditnates in the report. Look at the screenshot and figure it out?
111CanskyLast Sunday at 2:48 PM
112I think the issue was Ethan / Tna didn't have this screenshot
113https://gyazo.com/7f36138a38941b0f2284dad9524f09fc
114Gyazo
115Gyazo
116
117Ace.Last Sunday at 2:48 PM
118Well, now you have it
119CanskyLast Sunday at 2:48 PM
120I just attached it to the report and asked Tna. I'll see about it.
121Ace.Last Sunday at 2:48 PM
122You've had it*
123For a while now
124Thank you
125Have you figured out what punishment they will recieve for using that alt to stop our raid?
126If not, could you check now?
127CanskyLast Sunday at 2:57 PM
128It's not about checking what punishment exactly, but rather reaching a mutual decision with the others in management
129Ace.Last Sunday at 2:57 PM
130Well, what's on the table right now.
131Hello?
132CanskyLast Sunday at 3:01 PM
133It could be a 1d plugin misuse, or worse. It depends
134Abuse of a glitch, possibly? 7d.
135Or more. Depends like I said.
136Ace.Last Sunday at 3:02 PM
137Lol what
138Its not a glitch
139They've abused it many times now
140And it stopped a map ending raid on raidalerts that cost us a lot of time, money, and members.
141They knew what they were doing
142They knew they'd stop the raid with it
143Sam🔥 💥Last Sunday at 3:03 PM
144i wont add much because i dont think its my place but they have atleast used it 3 times to stop us
145CanskyLast Sunday at 3:03 PM
146I'm saying it could be interpreted as one DUE to the fact that the plugin's intention is disabling gen buckets nearby enemy players so people can't patch. Not because people can't sand gen bucket
147Ace.Last Sunday at 3:04 PM
148Okay, well it shouldnt be
149CanskyLast Sunday at 3:04 PM
150Well then there's nothing for it to be illegal for.
151Ace.Last Sunday at 3:04 PM
152This illegal misuse in context is much more important than that
153CanskyLast Sunday at 3:04 PM
154You're assuming a rule that's not defined or put in place.
155Ace.Last Sunday at 3:04 PM
156This illegal misuse in context is much more important than that
157CanskyLast Sunday at 3:04 PM
158We don't have a rule to counter the way they used that function.
159Atleast, not yet.
160Ace.Last Sunday at 3:05 PM
161Then how come you tped our alts and warned us when we first tried it?
162We did the same thing, they were tped to spawn.
163We never did it again after that.
164But they did.
165Multiple times.
166To stop the biggest raid this map.
167Would've cleared them off f top. But because they used the alt illegally, they were able to keep their f top, giving them the chance to take ours.
168Sam🔥 💥Last Sunday at 3:06 PM
169^
170Ace.Last Sunday at 3:07 PM
171Please don't dumb it down to a glitch abuse
172We all know this is much more important and severe than that
173CanskyLast Sunday at 3:08 PM
174I didn't tp any alt to spawn
175Ace.Last Sunday at 3:08 PM
176Not only are they going to abuse and clear your f top, but they're moving to another server. I don't see how this benefits you or the server.
177Maybe tna did.
178Point is: don't dumb it down to a glitch abuse. We all know this is much more important and severe than that.
179That's all I have to say about that. I'm sure you understand the severity of their abuse.
180by now.
181CanskyLast Sunday at 3:41 PM
182The genbucket disabling near enemies will be fixed in /ar
183Ace.Last Sunday at 3:41 PM
184/ar
185I could care less about that. Its a good plugin, it stops kids from patching illegally.
186All you need to do is punish people who use it to stop raids.
187Or 'abuse' it
188CanskyLast Sunday at 3:42 PM
189Yeah, problem is there was never a rule in place to justify punishing the people who abused it.
190Unfortunately, that won't happen
191Ace.Last Sunday at 3:43 PM
192Then why were my alts tped to spawn when I tried it.
193Why were their alts tped to spawn, the first time they tried it.
194Explain please.
195Why won't they be punished, wtf
196CanskyLast Sunday at 3:44 PM
197I'm not sure. You'd have to ask Tna if he did that.
198Ace.Last Sunday at 3:44 PM
199Or you could
200CanskyLast Sunday at 3:44 PM
201Because there is no rule that tells them they'd be punished for doing so
202Ace.Last Sunday at 3:44 PM
203Ask tna why he did what he did then
204Because of what he did, we were to assume it was illegal.
205Which is why we didn't do it
206They assumed it was illegal as well, but still did ut
207it
208Their alts were tped to spawn the first time they did it
209They knew it was not allowed, and still did it
210So what if there isn't a rule? This is clearly not fair.
211Please figure out what your staff is doing and why.
212There is no explaintion for this
213CanskyLast Sunday at 3:47 PM
214"They knew it was not allowed, and still did it" - Who said it wasn't allowed, and where?
215I'm asking Tna, but the explanation is simple.
216There's no rule against something you're trying to get people punished for.
217Ace.Last Sunday at 3:47 PM
218Everything's already been done, all you can do now to reimburse us for the unequal chances at the game.
219It was implied
220Why were our alts tped to spawn then
221Sam🔥 💥Last Sunday at 3:48 PM
222if u tp the alt away and warn us its not allowed?
223Ace.Last Sunday at 3:48 PM
224Don't try and pin this on me, misinterpretting anything.
225CanskyLast Sunday at 3:48 PM
226I'm not pinning anything on you. I'm stating a fact that is there has been no rules made against that situation, and I have no idea about what you mean regarding your accounts being tped to spawn.
227Ace.Last Sunday at 3:49 PM
228Figure it out?
229Sam🔥 💥Last Sunday at 3:49 PM
230maybe it wasnt exactally you but we were told we cant do that
231Ace.Last Sunday at 3:49 PM
232It wasn't
233Figure it out
234CanskyLast Sunday at 3:49 PM
235And where were you told?
236Where can I see
237Ace.Last Sunday at 3:50 PM
238Idk who talked to tna, I may have a recording from when we were attempting them.
239Regardless you and your staff should be able to figure it out.
240You should be able to figure it out since it was Desteria's staff that TPed them to spawn.
241Not us
242And whoever talked to them was NOT me.
243Sam🔥 💥Last Sunday at 3:51 PM
244nor me
245Ace.Last Sunday at 3:51 PM
246If I dig for a recording I'll probably find it on my laptop
247I'm not on it right now
248But I shouldn't need to provide proof if your own staff did this.
249Casnky biggest jebait 2k19
250Top 10 Anime Jebaits Feburuary 2019
251You'll admit, it was broken, needs a fix, it was abused, but you won't punish them. I wouldn't even care about this, but it seems you don't care to understand the severity of them abusing this.
252CanskyLast Sunday at 3:59 PM
253There's no severity on this until there's a rule that lists the action to a certain severity. I understand from your POV that it's unfair, although you could and you had done it aswell - with no proof and no warning, no statement from a staff member that someone told you this is illegal etc we can't help you
254Ace.Last Sunday at 4:00 PM
255Ask
256your
257staff
258Cansky, I'm busy right now, but I want to talk to you, if you're not doing anything about this.
259When are you available
260CanskyLast Sunday at 4:02 PM
261I'll be busy aswell for a while. Thing is, there's nothing to talk about here- we've repeated our sentences a few times by now and it's clear what I mean, versus what you want to punish people for without a rule
262Ace.Last Sunday at 4:02 PM
263I still want to talk
264Are you telling me you won't talk to me
265CanskyLast Sunday at 4:03 PM
266I'll talk to you. I'm just not going to bother arguing much longer if we're saying the same thing over and over again.
267Ace.Last Sunday at 4:03 PM
268Sounds good
269When is a good time
270CanskyLast Sunday at 4:04 PM
271Probably tomorrow afternoon US time, night EU time. It's already 7pm for me here, and I'll be busy tonight.
272Ace.Last Sunday at 4:04 PM
273Alright
274AsianjesusLast Sunday at 9:59 PM
275So what you’re saying cansky is “yes we’ve fucked up and literally caused a map ending raid to not happen, what we can do for you is literally nothing and no compensation is in place for the bs we’ve caused to about half the servers entire Comp†I remember when logic was manager and disbanded us over raid claims, we told him the server would die if he did. And what do yah know the server died and had to unblacklist our whole faction. I understand this is a server and you have to try and act professional (even though you are not in this matter) we will quit again and you guys will again be a dead server
276and not only has our faction alone supported the server (spending almost $2k alone) you guys refuse to do anything to reimburse us with the bs this server continues to do to factions that keep it alive
277CanskyLast Monday at 5:11 PM
278That's your interpretation of a situation that wasn't against the rules. Why would we be reimbursing you / spawning in items for you because you got raided?
279Ace.Last Monday at 6:55 PM
280Cansky
281Call
282You missed a call from Cansky.Last Monday at 8:21 PM
283Ace.Last Monday at 9:09 PM
284https://gyazo.com/4caf5eb439c3ecaa8353992b86185889
285Gyazo
286Gyazo
287
288Ace.Last Monday at 9:43 PM
289Cansky
290Look at those claims.
291Been there for a long while now.
292AsianjesusLast Monday at 11:36 PM
293It’s not an interpretation. You guys literally fuck the people that support your server over, again and again.
294Stop being such stupid cunts and I won’t feel the need to feel cheated
295You guys don’t even know your own fucking rules
296Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:20 AM
297@Cansky Any updates?
298CanskyLast Tuesday at 4:55 AM
299‘if we look at this part of the rules:
300
301"If you want more than one corner for your ‘faction’, you should split your group of players into separate factions at the START OF THE MAP and remain separate but allied throughout the course of the map"
302
303they are doing what the rules say they do if you want two corners. So, in that sense, I don't see the problem with having two corners, especially since they have separate f top values. Gameplay wise I don't see too big of a problem either. They can't win two f top prizes because of the f top rules. ‘
304So this means Logan can’t move himself back into Bucks otherwise that’d be illegal to have the faction consisting of alts
305Ace.Last Tuesday at 1:22 PM
306Logan was in Bucks before
307They split into 2 factions
308Your information is wrong
309Logan was in Bucks before
310They did not split into 2 factions at the begenning of the map
311This happend this week.
312CanskyLast Tuesday at 1:28 PM
313That’s not what I’m saying, the quote is off of the rules. If Logan leaves the leadership of that faction to an alt and moves back into Bucks, that’s illegal. But they have atleast one actual player playing in TheFrat, that’s fine because they split their players. And the fact that it should happen at the beginning is for when corners are just being taken. Anybody could split and make part of their players create another faction and claim another corner at any time- ftop isn’t affected by that
314Ace.Last Tuesday at 1:37 PM
315The alt faction wasn't owned by Logan until recently
316It was owned by an alt until that point
317Ace.Last Tuesday at 1:53 PM
3181 faction, 2 corners
319I swear when it comes to the interest of GetNuked, you guys change the rules or the context.
320I'd like to talk to you again if your final answer is no.
321Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:21 PM
322What you're saying makes it illegal was already illegal.
323I'd like to talk to you again if your final answer is no. <<
324If there is someone else I should talk to, then let me know.
325CanskyLast Tuesday at 4:53 PM
326They’re doing what they have to do in order to use two corners. Splitting players
327Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:53 PM
328It used to be owned by their alt
329CanskyLast Tuesday at 4:53 PM
330Unless there’s no longer a player but just alts, it’s legal - as I said and with the opinion of everyonr
331It no longer is, so it doesn’t apply anymore
332Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:54 PM
333So if I had brought this up while their alt was leader, they'd need to give 1 up
334CanskyLast Tuesday at 4:55 PM
335They would have probably just split players to keep it then
336Since I can’t straight out unclaim it
337Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM
338You're a :nut:
339CanskyLast Tuesday at 4:55 PM
340But yeah. That’s how it is
341Ace.Last Tuesday at 4:55 PM
342I got it
343Ace.Last Tuesday at 6:21 PM
344So are you saying they can use both bases and both factions for f top prizes?
345CanskyLast Tuesday at 6:33 PM
346They technically could as long as they don't merge again
347So seeing Logan in Bucks, or the core of the base ever claimed by Bucks, is the illegal part
348Ace.Last Tuesday at 6:56 PM
349Is there a rule about inactive corner claims?
350CanskyLast Tuesday at 6:56 PM
351No
352Ace.Last Wednesday at 12:57 AM
353https://gyazo.com/be361ffb4d5a0190043b38e6d10dc26d
354Gyazo
355Gyazo
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357https://gyazo.com/8d7c71e7776d5e96975bafcb4b113b9c
358Gyazo
359Gyazo
360
361Its literally an alt faction they're using to claim two corners.
362Its one faction
363See? Its owned by the alt.
364@Cansky
365CanskyToday at 1:33 PM
366They technically could as long as they don't merge again
367Well, they did. Do something about it.
368You have all the proof you need.
369Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
370
371Its Illegal now
372And you got the proof
373CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:11 PM
374yup
375Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
376I swear to god, if they're not unclaimed Cansky
377We're talking again
378@Cansky can you kick my main acc, AceHerc
379CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:25 PM
380I'm here, you still need it?
381Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
382No, Blorbin kicked it for me
383Thanks
384Just get to unclaiming! :mmLol:
385Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
386@Cansky
387https://gyazo.com/4caf5eb439c3ecaa8353992b86185889
388Gyazo
389Gyazo
390
391Another Strike!
392EthanLast Wednesday at 2:34 PM
393EXTENDED BUFFER
394MORE THEN A @) CHUNK CLAIM
395ALLIES CLAIMING
396CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:37 PM
397The whole base just got unclaimed, I wouldn't strike them for that over the claims they shouldn't have had anyway
398Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
399Those claims were there since like 2 to 3 days ago
400Check the time and date
401CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:38 PM
402Yeah, I remember the first time you sent me the SS
403Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
404Did you strike them then??
405If not, they should've been
406This was before you unclaimed
407CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:39 PM
408but it wasn't used for any reason, it didn't block anybody, nobody was raiding this base, there are no extra defences or anything on them
409It wouldn't be worth a strike
410Ace.Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
411But its illegal
412CanskyLast Wednesday at 2:39 PM
413Seems like they just forgot about it.
414Ace.Today at 1:00 AM
415Ace.Today at 7:55 PM
416?
417Ryan_1998Today at 7:56 PM
418yo okay so I randomly typed Deters name into desteria discord
419and he type this recently
420https://gyazo.com/7e92570c5a4c11f10711a9f173114bfa
421Gyazo
422Gyazo
423
424https://gyazo.com/db700ead46894649bdd134858ea2e8b6
425I then search it on google to see what it translates to and it opens this paste bin doc
426this paste bin doc includes pages where you are supposed to copy and paste into a book and quill to dupe
427seen in this video
428https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw7vEGhKoH8
429YouTube
430Earthcomputer
431Chunk Savestates and Item Duping
432
433Ryan_1998Today at 7:59 PM
434look in the description its a link to the same exact page to what he linked/typed
435but as I dont play idk if they are duping or not, prob trying to hide it a much a possible as they got caught out last time and all was banned
436Gyazo
437Gyazo
438
439YouTube
440Earthcomputer
441Chunk Savestates and Item Duping
442
443@Cansky
444Cansky added xTNAx02 to the group.Today at 1:11 AM
445Cansky added Omega to the group.Today at 1:11 AM
446CanskyToday at 1:12 AM
447Added you guys regarding the dupe, and some things that came up ^
448OmegaToday at 1:46 AM
449What are the "some things"
450CanskyToday at 1:46 AM
451Deters' relation to the dupe, his faction including himself specifically have sold Titan rank notes
452OmegaToday at 1:47 AM
453Can we get an actual copy of that text?
454We'd be able to recreate the issue on beta with that.
455Ace.Today at 1:47 AM
456Here
457CanskyToday at 1:48 AM
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459OmegaToday at 1:48 AM
460We've known about it and are trying to counter it - but it's difficult to do.
461CanskyToday at 1:48 AM
462Found it through Desteria general
463OmegaToday at 1:48 AM
464thanks
465CanskyToday at 1:48 AM
466Where he sent it as screenshots show
467Ace.Today at 1:49 AM
468also https://gyazo.com/559afe9b30e4eb3ffd8d97a32df360c6
469Gyazo
470Gyazo
471
472ganp told me about all these fake notes
473they could be selling them on alts or some shit or spreading them around to troll/waste ppls money
474or make loads of legit money
475Gyazo
476Gyazo
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478OmegaToday at 1:49 AM
479I'm not really concerned about the rank notes since they won't work if they are duped.
480and we're already refunding money to people who buy them.
481CanskyToday at 1:50 AM
482^ I've taken one off Deters and TooDumbToHack who're both RaidAlerts
483OmegaToday at 1:50 AM
484When did Deters post that?
485CanskyToday at 1:50 AM
486They have scammed two people
487OmegaToday at 1:50 AM
488We can take care of the scams.
489That isn't hard to do.
490CanskyToday at 1:50 AM
491Last Monday
4923:43pm for me
493So morning US time
494If you search messages under his tag in desteria general
4952nd most recent anyways