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8Hi, this is Jon Favreau, and this is
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12the director's commentary for the 2019
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16version of The Lion King.
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20This title sequence here
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24for the Disney logo was actually created
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28for The Jungle Book.
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32There's one small difference,
33which is you'll see Tinker Bell
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37circles the top here.
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41This is actually hand-painted
42using the old multiplane techniques.
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46Rob Legato, a name that
47you'll be hearing a lot
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51during this commentary,
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55is our visual effects supervisor
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59and second unit director...
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63On both these projects.
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67And we thought
68a really low-tech beginning
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72to honor the Disney roots
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76was a clever way to go.
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80This shot here
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84is the only actually
85photographed shot in the entire film.
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89Of the 1,400 shots,
90we wanted to put one real one in.
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94Everything else is computer generated.
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98But that first sunrise shot
99is the mystery real shot.
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103All the rest of these were
104created, actually.
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108The environments were created by MPC,
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112which is the one vendor
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117A lot of films use
118a lot of visual effects houses.
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122We used MPC.
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126And the visual effects supervisor
127from MPC, Adam Valdez,
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131who also was a visual effects supervisor
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135on Jungle Book, we met on that project
136and much of the same team.
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140Also, Andy Jones, the lead animator,
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144was also involved with that project.
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148Now, these environments were researched
149pretty exhaustively in Africa,
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153and we had done a lot of photography.
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157There had been a scout
158where we tried to find the locations
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162that inspired the locations
163from the original film
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167'cause that was pretty well documented.
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171And so James Chinlund,
172who is our production designer,
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176who is in charge of
177the whole look of the film...
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181Normally, production designers are
182designing and building sets.
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186In the case of a film where
187we're using virtual photography,
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191he was overseeing the building
192of these virtual environments that,
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196like this shot,
197pays homage to the original,
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201but yet grounds it, hopefully,
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205more in the reality of the topography
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210Now, this shot is interesting
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214'cause we wanted to make it
215look like a helicopter shot,
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219and we brought in some
220drone pilots that actually...
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224You know, we shrunk the set down
225and had the drone fly around it
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229like a helicopter shot.
230It turned out quite well.
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234And Audrey Ferrara is a name
235I should mention as well.
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239Her official title is
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243MPC DFX Supervisor,
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247but really her job is
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251designing the environments
252like an art director
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256and working with the teams of dozens
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260and actually hundreds of artists
261that worked on this to help create
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265this naturalism that we were going for.
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269And of course,
270every one of these characters is
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274designed also by the artists
275over there at MPC
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279and overseen by the production team
280working on the film.
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284Now, if you're familiar
285with the original Lion King,
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289you could see that this sequence here,
290the circle of life, is one
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294where we really tried
295to adhere as much as possible
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299to the original shots
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303to let the audience know,
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307who were fans of the original,
308that we really...
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312We're gonna take... We go
313to great efforts to honor the original.
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317Of course,
318there's a lot of shots in here
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322that are different, but we found that
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326transposing the 2D shots
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330to 3D and to photorealism
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334didn't always translate perfectly.
335And so there are things like
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339the fruit that gets broken open
340with the juice inside,
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344when we looked at
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349and what was really inside of it,
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353it wasn't filled with
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357face paint. It was filled with,
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361you know,
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365a white fleshy fruit.
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369And so we didn't want to depart
370from reality more than we had to.
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374And so in that case,
375we switched it for pigments
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379that were in different plant life there
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383and things that you would
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388And we used that later when
389Rafiki's actually painting on the tree.
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393And so this Circle of Life sequence
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397ending with this big drum boom...
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401(DRUM BOOMS)
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405...that, by the way, I got to play
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409the big drum, the bass drum
410in Hans Zimmer's orchestra,
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414and I got to hit that drum.
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418That was my big contribution.
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422I might also add that
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426the singer who sang that song,
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430this version of the Circle of Life
431was Lindiwe Mkhize,
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435who had been with the London company
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439of the musical production for 20 years
440and had just retired.
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444And Hans had the idea to include her
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448as part of the legacy of the project
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452and bring some of the musical
453stage production feel to our film.
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457Now, this sequence here,
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461this is where
462we really depart from the original.
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466And we wanted to show,
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470using the techniques that
471I'll talk about later, a virtual camera,
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475that we could create something
476that felt more like a documentary.
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480We wanted this thing to feel
481not like an animated remake,
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485but like as though it were
486a live-action production,
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490even though clearly
491everything's animated here.
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495There's nothing live action.
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499The environments aren't,
500the characters aren't.
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504Everything is handmade,
505hand animated, hand created.
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509But everything was meant to
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513contribute to the live-action
514appearance of the film.
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518And so we studied
519a lot of the BBC documentaries
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523like Planet Earth II, I think,
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527which came out around the time
528we were planning this.
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532And we studied the way
533that they used their cameras,
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537the way they operated them,
538the way they edited, used music,
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542used speed changes,
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546all the ways that they brought emotion,
547anthropomorphic emotion
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551to these naturalistic animals,
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555these animals that
556didn't have any expression.
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560We wanted to limit the scope
561as much as we could
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565to the naturalism
566of the animals' behavior.
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570And so borrowing a lot
571and learning a lot
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575from the techniques
576that are used in documentaries,
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580we were able to, I think,
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584bring a lot of the emotion to the film
585that the original had
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589while not being tempted to make them act
590in too much of a cartoony fashion
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594and break the illusion that we were
595really photographing this.
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599There's John Oliver playing Zazu,
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603Chiwetel Ejiofor
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607playing Scar.
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611And here's
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615James Earl Jones returning.
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619And there's our
620Man for All Seasons shot.
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624Henry VIII, (CHUCKLES)
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628blocking the sun.
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632So, here we have
633one of those situations where
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637the scene kind of follows
638what was in the original,
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642though there was a lot more slapstick
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646between Zazu and Scar.
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650But yet I think we captured the spirit.
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654And it's an interesting scene, too,
655because here you have James Earl Jones,
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659who's the only person returning
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663with their voice to this production,
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667other than Lebo M,
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671whose voice is still,
672is singing throughout the piece.
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676But this is the only voice,
677and he's playing against Chiwetel.
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681And of course,
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685Chiwetel's a new voice,
686and Scar has a new look.
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690Because if you just followed
691what was originally there
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695with a, you know, very dark mane,
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699it would've seemed like
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703that's a sign of dominance
704in the animal kingdom among lions.
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708And so from certain angles,
709it looks dark, like here.
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713But, really, we found if we went
714with a black mane, it would look like
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718he would've been the dominant lion,
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722and part of the story
723is that Mufasa is the alpha.
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727And part of Scar's struggle is
728that he wants to be the king.
729
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732MUFASA: As long as I am king,
733that will never change.
734
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737Well, there's one
738in every family, sire.
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742I had a cousin who thought
743he was a woodpecker.
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747FAVREAU: Now,
748it should be said that right now,
749
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752I haven't seen this movie yet
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756with an audience of people
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760who weren't involved with
761making the movie.
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765So, the premiere is actually tomorrow.
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769It would be the first time
770I get to see it with a crowd,
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774so it's a little bit odd
775talking about this film
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779without knowing
780how it's going to be received.
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784But I know that a lot of people
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788worked very hard on it
789and that we cared very deeply about
790
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793honoring the legacy of the film.
794
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797And all the people
798that have worked on it
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802and contributed to it
803before we were ever even involved,
804
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807before this production
808was even launched,
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812the stage production
813and the original animated film.
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817And of course, all of the music
818and the culture that it reflects.
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822Here was a difficult conundrum,
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826because if you remember
827from the old film, he was painting.
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831And we felt Rafiki would
832very easily turn anthropomorphic,
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836and it would blow the illusion of him
837being a real primate
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841if we had him painting.
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845And so the idea of
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849these bugs magically kind of
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853coming together and him nudging them
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857to create some kind of a holdout
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861for blowing pigment onto the tree,
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865kind of like the old
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869cave paintings where
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873ancient humans would hold
874their hand up against the cave wall
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878and blow pigment against it
879
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882and remove their hand,
883and there would be the outline.
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887Here, this was inspired
888by time-lapse photography
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892that you would find in a documentary.
893
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896And now we transition out into
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900a very memorable scene
901from the original film.
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905The more memorable the scene,
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909the more we adhered to
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913what people would remember.
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917And we found that in certain scenes
918we could deviate quite a bit
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922and certain areas
923we had to hold very close
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927to what people's memories were.
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931If I'm not mistaken, all of this is
932
933206
93400:11:10,629 --> 00:11:12,548
935is pretty word-for-word
936
937207
93800:11:13,423 --> 00:11:14,508
939and shot-for-shot.
940
941208
94200:11:14,591 --> 00:11:16,844
943We found that Mufasa's dialogue
944
945209
94600:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,097
947actually held up very well.
948
949210
95000:11:20,597 --> 00:11:23,267
951There are certain things
952that hold up over, you know,
953
954211
95500:11:24,268 --> 00:11:25,686
95625 years,
957
958212
95900:11:26,353 --> 00:11:27,563
960better than other things.
961
962213
96300:11:28,313 --> 00:11:31,066
964And the dialogue of Mufasa reflects
965
966214
96700:11:31,483 --> 00:11:32,818
968timeless truths
969
970215
97100:11:33,151 --> 00:11:36,238
972and lessons that
973one generation passes to the next.
974
975216
97600:11:38,740 --> 00:11:40,617
977Anything that addressed...
978
979217
98000:11:40,868 --> 00:11:43,537
981That was too colloquial or that was
982
983218
98400:11:44,246 --> 00:11:48,083
985comedy, was felt contemporary
986at all at the time,
987
988219
98900:11:48,292 --> 00:11:50,085
990that stuff didn't hold up as well,
991we found.
992
993220
99400:11:50,168 --> 00:11:52,671
995And then tonal things
996that didn't translate well
997
998221
99900:11:52,754 --> 00:11:54,840
1000to live action also,
1001
1002222
100300:11:56,133 --> 00:12:00,429
1004we found that we were better off
1005exploring other possibilities there.
1006
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100800:12:02,389 --> 00:12:03,390
1009But this sequence here of,
1010
1011224
101200:12:03,473 --> 00:12:05,017
1013"Everything the light touches
1014is your kingdom,"
1015
1016225
101700:12:05,142 --> 00:12:07,269
1018is definitely something
1019that people remember.
1020
1021226
102200:12:07,686 --> 00:12:10,814
1023And even getting the lion
1024to sit like that,
1025
1026227
102700:12:10,898 --> 00:12:14,568
1028that's not something
1029you see in nature that often.
1030
1031228
103200:12:14,651 --> 00:12:17,487
1033They do it from time to time,
1034but people remember it more
1035
1036229
103700:12:17,863 --> 00:12:19,907
1038from statues in front of museums...
1039(CHUCKLES)
1040
1041230
104200:12:19,990 --> 00:12:22,034
1043And less from the zoo.
1044
1045231
104600:12:22,492 --> 00:12:25,621
1047But we felt that
1048that was a very strong visual.
1049
1050232
105100:12:27,915 --> 00:12:29,750
1052And now you start to see
1053the camera movement.
1054
1055233
105600:12:29,833 --> 00:12:31,710
1057And here, hopefully, you could see
1058
1059234
106000:12:31,793 --> 00:12:35,505
1061the combination of things like
1062lighting, the first simulations here,
1063
1064235
106500:12:35,589 --> 00:12:39,551
1066which felt like something
1067that you hadn't seen before.
1068
1069236
107000:12:39,843 --> 00:12:42,804
1071The technology really took a big jump.
1072
1073237
107400:12:43,055 --> 00:12:45,599
1075But these shots,
1076these emulated helicopter shots
1077
1078238
107900:12:45,682 --> 00:12:49,519
1080and these long lens shots
1081and the camera movement, crane shots
1082
1083239
108400:12:50,479 --> 00:12:55,067
1085were all created using a technique
1086called virtual camera work
1087
1088240
108900:12:55,150 --> 00:12:56,318
1090where we actually built
1091
1092241
109300:12:56,985 --> 00:12:58,904
1094the animation, built the environments,
1095
1096242
109700:12:59,655 --> 00:13:02,282
1098and instead of just rendering it
1099for the film,
1100
1101243
110200:13:02,366 --> 00:13:06,203
1103we brought it into
1104a 3D virtual reality space.
1105
1106244
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1108And that's where
1109we operated virtual cameras
1110
1111245
111200:13:09,289 --> 00:13:13,085
1113with a live-action film crew
1114within that virtual environment.
1115
1116246
111700:13:13,168 --> 00:13:16,838
1118Often we'd all be wearing the headsets
1119so that we could actually be there.
1120
1121247
112200:13:16,922 --> 00:13:19,299
1123So, like, for a scene like this,
1124I would be standing there
1125
1126248
112700:13:19,383 --> 00:13:22,386
1128watching the lion walk past me
1129with Caleb Deschanel,
1130
1131249
113200:13:22,886 --> 00:13:24,972
1133and we would decide where
1134we should put the camera.
1135
1136250
113700:13:27,224 --> 00:13:30,769
1138This is some beautiful animation
1139right here, using the slow motion.
1140
1141251
114200:13:30,852 --> 00:13:32,270
1143See, their mouths aren't
1144moving back there.
1145
1146252
114700:13:32,354 --> 00:13:34,231
1148This is how you would
1149cut a doc together.
1150
1151253
115200:13:34,523 --> 00:13:35,816
1153And so we took certain leaps that
1154
1155254
115600:13:35,899 --> 00:13:37,651
1157you wouldn't do necessarily
1158in a live-action film,
1159
1160255
116100:13:37,734 --> 00:13:39,361
1162but you would do in a documentary.
1163
1164256
116500:13:39,695 --> 00:13:41,613
1166So, we're trying
1167to put little clues in here
1168
1169257
117000:13:41,697 --> 00:13:43,907
1171to subconsciously make you think
1172you're seeing something
1173
1174258
117500:13:43,991 --> 00:13:45,367
1176that was filmed in the wild.
1177
1178259
117900:13:46,410 --> 00:13:48,453
1180But if you watch
1181all these camera movements,
1182
1183260
118400:13:48,578 --> 00:13:50,288
1185you'll see that they're a bit imprecise.
1186
1187261
118800:13:50,372 --> 00:13:52,416
1189There's a lot of little
1190adjustments going on,
1191
1192262
119300:13:52,749 --> 00:13:55,544
1194because often times it would be
1195Caleb Deschanel on the wheels,
1196
1197263
119800:13:55,627 --> 00:13:59,715
1199operating a camera
1200within a virtual space.
1201
1202264
120300:14:00,215 --> 00:14:03,593
1204And we would generate dailies
1205from those camera movements
1206
1207265
120800:14:04,011 --> 00:14:06,263
1209and supply them to our editors,
1210
1211266
121200:14:06,346 --> 00:14:08,974
1213Mark Livolsi, Adam Gerstel.
1214
1215267
121600:14:09,307 --> 00:14:10,851
1217And they would take the dailies,
1218
1219268
122000:14:10,976 --> 00:14:12,477
1221as they would
1222in a live-action production,
1223
1224269
122500:14:12,561 --> 00:14:14,980
1226they would cut it together
1227into an assembly.
1228
1229270
123000:14:15,564 --> 00:14:18,316
1231And so it was very much
1232a pipeline of a live-action film
1233
1234271
123500:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,152
1236in the middle section.
1237
1238272
123900:14:20,610 --> 00:14:22,654
1240So, in the beginning,
1241we would prepare it as,
1242
1243273
124400:14:23,655 --> 00:14:25,157
1245you know, animators always would,
1246
1247274
124800:14:25,282 --> 00:14:27,784
1249which is pencil drawings
1250in the story department
1251
1252275
125300:14:28,326 --> 00:14:30,746
1254and little animatics or show reels,
1255
1256276
125700:14:31,663 --> 00:14:34,207
1258as Disney Animation would do or Pixar.
1259
1260277
126100:14:34,291 --> 00:14:36,334
1262But then at the point where
1263we would go into layout,
1264
1265278
126600:14:36,418 --> 00:14:38,170
1267that's when we built everything.
1268
1269279
127000:14:38,253 --> 00:14:40,380
1271And Andy Jones oversaw all the animation
1272
1273280
127400:14:40,464 --> 00:14:43,300
1275so that we had some
1276simple versions of the animation
1277
1278281
127900:14:43,383 --> 00:14:45,260
1280done in a game engine called Unity.
1281
1282282
128300:14:45,635 --> 00:14:48,680
1284A company called Magnopus
1285built essentially,
1286
1287283
128800:14:49,222 --> 00:14:52,768
1289along with MPC,
1290essentially a multi-player
1291
1292284
129300:14:53,351 --> 00:14:55,520
1294virtual reality filmmaking game,
1295
1296285
129700:14:55,604 --> 00:14:57,773
1298where we could all be
1299in virtual reality together
1300
1301286
130200:14:57,856 --> 00:14:59,399
1303as though we're on a real film set.
1304
1305287
130600:14:59,816 --> 00:15:01,318
1307And here, you had a real crane.
1308
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131000:15:01,401 --> 00:15:04,404
1311You know, we had a crane
1312that was in our facility,
1313
1314289
131500:15:04,488 --> 00:15:07,032
1316and we would operate the crane in a big,
1317
1318290
131900:15:08,909 --> 00:15:11,286
1320you know, room that looked
1321like a motion capture room.
1322
1323291
132400:15:11,828 --> 00:15:14,748
1325But instead of capturing the movements
1326of the animals or performers,
1327
1328292
132900:15:14,831 --> 00:15:17,209
1330we were instead capturing
1331the movements of the cameras.
1332
1333293
133400:15:17,584 --> 00:15:22,422
1335So, it was using similar techniques,
1336new hardware, virtual reality hardware,
1337
1338294
133900:15:23,548 --> 00:15:27,427
1340game engine technology and having
1341a live-action crew operating cameras.
1342
1343295
134400:15:27,928 --> 00:15:30,680
1345But the lions or the performers,
1346none of them were ever in the room.
1347
1348296
134900:15:30,764 --> 00:15:32,390
1350Those were all pre-animated.
1351
1352297
135300:15:32,557 --> 00:15:35,894
1354And so we would have sequences
1355like this bug sequence where
1356
1357298
135800:15:36,228 --> 00:15:37,521
1359we would decide where the cameras...
1360
1361299
136200:15:37,729 --> 00:15:40,440
1363We would walk around and observe it
1364as though it were a rehearsal,
1365
1366300
136700:15:40,732 --> 00:15:41,900
1368and then Caleb would decide,
1369
1370301
137100:15:41,983 --> 00:15:44,361
1372the camera goes here,
1373where we'd pull focus,
1374
1375302
137600:15:44,945 --> 00:15:45,946
1377how it would move.
1378
1379303
138000:15:46,655 --> 00:15:48,532
1381And so Andy Jones
1382
1383304
138400:15:48,990 --> 00:15:51,868
1385was tasked with our little animation lab
1386
1387305
138800:15:52,285 --> 00:15:54,454
1389to build very naturalistic performances.
1390
1391306
139200:15:54,538 --> 00:15:58,458
1393It's very easy to exaggerate
1394performances on a sequence like this.
1395
1396307
139700:15:58,959 --> 00:16:00,335
1398But it would feel a little bit...
1399
1400308
140100:16:00,418 --> 00:16:02,295
1402The physics would feel
1403a little cartoony.
1404
1405309
140600:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,464
1407So I think there's
1408a really good sense of weight,
1409
1410310
141100:16:04,548 --> 00:16:06,258
1412how the characters move.
1413
1414311
141500:16:06,842 --> 00:16:07,968
1416And again,
1417
1418312
141900:16:08,468 --> 00:16:12,180
1420really no emotion in the face,
1421which is counterintuitive
1422
1423313
142400:16:12,264 --> 00:16:14,099
1425if you're doing a film
1426like Lion King where
1427
1428314
142900:16:14,182 --> 00:16:17,227
1430you want the animals
1431to express a lot of emotion.
1432
1433315
143400:16:17,727 --> 00:16:19,104
1435And so it fell upon the voice cast,
1436
1437316
143800:16:19,187 --> 00:16:21,898
1439in this case it's JD McCrary
1440and Chiwetel Ejiofor,
1441
1442317
144300:16:21,982 --> 00:16:26,111
1444to bring a lot of performance through
1445and emotion through their voices.
1446
1447318
144800:16:26,403 --> 00:16:27,863
1449And also, the camera work.
1450
1451319
145200:16:28,613 --> 00:16:32,367
1453So, you see a shot like this where
1454you start off on a close-up of Simba,
1455
1456320
145700:16:33,869 --> 00:16:37,706
1458and then you see the camera
1459slowly move and the focus rack.
1460
1461321
146200:16:37,789 --> 00:16:40,041
1463And so even though
1464there's no expression on Scar's face,
1465
1466322
146700:16:40,125 --> 00:16:42,002
1468you definitely read a lot (LAUGHS)
1469
1470323
147100:16:42,085 --> 00:16:43,920
1472into what he feels about
1473
1474324
147500:16:44,421 --> 00:16:45,839
1476his little nephew.
1477
1478325
147900:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,508
1480And look at that beautiful environment.
1481
1482326
148300:16:49,259 --> 00:16:54,014
1484This is a shot that I am very proud
1485and impressed with the team.
1486
1487327
148800:16:54,973 --> 00:16:56,474
1489That's...
1490
1491328
149200:16:57,851 --> 00:17:00,979
1493It might not be obvious to people,
1494but that's probably
1495
1496329
149700:17:01,354 --> 00:17:02,772
1498one of the most difficult shots
1499in the movie,
1500
1501330
150200:17:02,856 --> 00:17:04,774
1503to make a naturalistic environment
1504where you could look at
1505
1506331
150700:17:04,858 --> 00:17:07,402
1508everything at the same time,
1509there's no camera movement,
1510
1511332
151200:17:08,028 --> 00:17:10,572
1513and for it to appear to be photographed.
1514
1515333
151600:17:12,073 --> 00:17:15,911
1517And then also a beautiful
1518environment inside Scar's cave,
1519
1520334
152100:17:15,994 --> 00:17:18,371
1522and look at the beautiful
1523lighting in here.
1524
1525335
152600:17:18,663 --> 00:17:21,291
1527I was so grateful
1528to have Caleb Deschanel,
1529
1530336
153100:17:21,374 --> 00:17:24,502
1532who, if you're unfamiliar with his work,
1533
1534337
153500:17:24,586 --> 00:17:26,504
1536you should start
1537with looking up his resume
1538
1539338
154000:17:26,588 --> 00:17:29,466
1541and then just one by one
1542start watching all of his films.
1543
1544339
154500:17:29,549 --> 00:17:33,303
1546It's film school, just watching his work
1547and how he's progressed
1548
1549340
155000:17:33,386 --> 00:17:36,765
1551over so many different periods
1552of filmmaking.
1553
1554341
155500:17:41,686 --> 00:17:44,397
1556And now... He started off at a time
1557when there was...
1558
1559342
156000:17:44,481 --> 00:17:47,442
1561On films with very little visual effects
1562and no CGI technology.
1563
1564343
156500:17:48,318 --> 00:17:49,361
1566And here he is
1567
1568344
156900:17:50,570 --> 00:17:53,281
1570operating cameras
1571and being the cinematographer
1572
1573345
157400:17:53,365 --> 00:17:55,492
1575on a very cutting-edge, technical film,
1576
1577346
157800:17:56,368 --> 00:17:59,454
1579which is to show you that
1580really the technology is just a tool
1581
1582347
158300:17:59,537 --> 00:18:02,916
1584and it's the artist
1585and the experience of the filmmakers,
1586
1587348
158800:18:03,500 --> 00:18:06,002
1589be it cinematographers
1590or camera operators,
1591
1592349
159300:18:06,544 --> 00:18:07,671
1594performers,
1595
1596350
159700:18:08,922 --> 00:18:10,715
1598people who design
1599environments, lighting,
1600
1601351
160200:18:10,799 --> 00:18:12,384
1603all of the people who are...
1604
1605352
160600:18:12,926 --> 00:18:15,428
1607All the artists and filmmakers
1608who are part of the team,
1609
1610353
161100:18:16,388 --> 00:18:19,349
1612if the set of tools are
1613presented in a way
1614
1615354
161600:18:19,766 --> 00:18:24,396
1617that will allow them
1618to take everything they've learned
1619
1620355
162100:18:25,272 --> 00:18:28,358
1622from the old way of making movies,
1623the more traditional way,
1624
1625356
162600:18:28,566 --> 00:18:31,736
1627and if you could tap into
1628that passion, that artistry
1629
1630357
163100:18:31,820 --> 00:18:33,238
1632and that level of skill,
1633
1634358
163500:18:33,321 --> 00:18:35,699
1636then you really get
1637the best of both worlds.
1638
1639359
164000:18:35,782 --> 00:18:37,909
1641You get to push the limits
1642of what the tech could do,
1643
1644360
164500:18:37,993 --> 00:18:39,452
1646but you also get
1647
1648361
164900:18:40,745 --> 00:18:42,789
1650this lifetime of experience
1651
1652362
165300:18:42,872 --> 00:18:45,875
1654that's often pushed to the side
1655as new technologies emerge.
1656
1657363
165800:18:45,959 --> 00:18:47,877
1659And so the effort that we were making
1660
1661364
166200:18:47,961 --> 00:18:52,465
1663and Rob Legato was certainly
1664a big part of this,
1665
1666365
166700:18:53,300 --> 00:18:55,176
1668creating this little infrastructure
1669
1670366
167100:18:55,552 --> 00:18:59,222
1672that we could hire people who didn't
1673have experience in visual effects,
1674
1675367
167600:18:59,306 --> 00:19:04,019
1677but you have a real dolly operator
1678who's pulling the camera and reacting
1679
1680368
168100:19:04,561 --> 00:19:06,521
1682to the movement of these characters
1683
1684369
168500:19:06,604 --> 00:19:09,566
1686like they would
1687if you were filming real performers.
1688
1689370
169000:19:10,275 --> 00:19:13,320
1691And I think, although it's not
1692obvious consciously to people,
1693
1694371
169500:19:13,403 --> 00:19:16,156
1696I think the subconscious takeaway is
1697that you feel like you're watching
1698
1699372
170000:19:16,239 --> 00:19:18,908
1701something more real
1702than an animated movie.
1703
1704373
170500:19:19,075 --> 00:19:21,244
1706At least, that was our contention.
1707
1708374
170900:19:21,578 --> 00:19:23,330
1710How we getting rid
1711of the dodo?
1712
1713375
171400:19:23,496 --> 00:19:25,123
1715Trust me, I got this.
1716
1717376
171800:19:25,290 --> 00:19:26,624
1719Follow me to freedom.
1720
1721377
172200:19:28,043 --> 00:19:29,919
1723ZAZU: Oh, how lovely it is...
1724
1725378
172600:19:31,004 --> 00:19:33,048
1727FAVREAU: So, now
1728we're about to enter into
1729
1730379
173100:19:33,131 --> 00:19:35,133
1732the Can't Wait to be King number.
1733
1734380
173500:19:35,425 --> 00:19:38,762
1736And this was a very challenging one
1737because everybody remembers it.
1738
1739381
174000:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,472
1741It's a very upbeat number.
1742
1743382
174400:19:40,555 --> 00:19:42,891
1745In the original film,
1746it's extremely colorful.
1747
1748383
174900:19:43,016 --> 00:19:44,392
1750It's like a Busby Berkeley
1751
1752384
175300:19:45,018 --> 00:19:46,478
1754choreographed musical.
1755
1756385
175700:19:46,770 --> 00:19:49,689
1758It has very colorful, surreal imagery.
1759
1760386
176100:19:49,773 --> 00:19:52,734
1762If you remember, there's animals
1763standing on top of each other's heads.
1764
1765387
176600:19:52,859 --> 00:19:54,194
1767It's very...
1768
1769388
177000:19:54,444 --> 00:19:57,447
1771It almost exists partially
1772in the imagination of the characters,
1773
1774389
177500:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,367
1776and it's very much
1777in the Disney tradition of the surreal,
1778
1779390
178000:20:01,034 --> 00:20:03,620
1781you know, visually-beautiful,
1782
1783391
178400:20:03,703 --> 00:20:06,998
1785semi-fantasy sequences that pop up,
1786
1787392
178800:20:07,082 --> 00:20:09,292
1789you know, that have been
1790popping up since Dumbo.
1791
1792393
179300:20:11,836 --> 00:20:15,465
1794Now, we didn't want to depart at all
1795from the reality of the film.
1796
1797394
179800:20:15,548 --> 00:20:19,928
1799We didn't want to blow
1800the illusion of real photography.
1801
1802395
180300:20:20,553 --> 00:20:22,180
1804And so part of the challenge
1805
1806396
180700:20:22,263 --> 00:20:24,724
1808with James Chinlund
1809and Audrey and Elliot Newman
1810
1811397
181200:20:24,933 --> 00:20:27,143
1813and the whole visual effects team
1814and Andy was...
1815
1816398
181700:20:27,268 --> 00:20:30,814
1818"How could we create the same feeling
1819that you had from the old movie
1820
1821399
182200:20:30,897 --> 00:20:32,857
1823"without going so stylistic?"
1824
1825400
182600:20:32,941 --> 00:20:35,443
1827And so as you'll see,
1828we start to embrace
1829
1830401
183100:20:35,527 --> 00:20:39,072
1832a different color palette
1833with the flamingos coming up.
1834
1835402
183600:20:39,155 --> 00:20:41,491
1837We used the animals to create this
1838
1839403
184000:20:41,908 --> 00:20:42,992
1841really cool environment,
1842
1843404
184400:20:43,076 --> 00:20:46,496
1845because to these little cubs,
1846those animals are the environment.
1847
1848405
184900:20:46,955 --> 00:20:50,667
1850We, you know, use the animals to create
1851architecture and color around them
1852
1853406
185400:20:51,167 --> 00:20:53,336
1855to hopefully capture
1856some of the same fun and energy
1857
1858407
185900:20:53,461 --> 00:20:55,088
1860that the original production had.
1861
1862408
186300:20:55,630 --> 00:20:56,881
1864ZAZU: Now, when I said that...
1865
1866409
186700:20:56,965 --> 00:20:58,299
1868NALA: (SINGING) No one saying "be there"
1869
1870410
187100:20:58,383 --> 00:20:59,384
1872ZAZU: What I meant was...
1873
1874411
187500:20:59,467 --> 00:21:01,261
1876FAVREAU: And so you see
1877the legs of the animals
1878
1879412
188000:21:01,344 --> 00:21:03,179
1881almost become like forests
1882
1883413
188400:21:03,721 --> 00:21:05,849
1885to these little characters.
1886
1887414
188800:21:06,224 --> 00:21:07,517
1889I should mention also
1890
1891415
189200:21:08,101 --> 00:21:09,978
1893that we have...
1894
1895416
189600:21:10,603 --> 00:21:14,274
1897Shahadi Wright Joseph
1898playing young Nala.
1899
1900417
190100:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,445
1902Of course, the older Nala
1903is played by Beyoncé.
1904
1905418
190600:21:24,909 --> 00:21:28,830
1907And we kept the lyrics
1908the same here from the original.
1909
1910419
191100:21:29,414 --> 00:21:30,915
1912And this sequence was
1913
1914420
191500:21:32,083 --> 00:21:34,127
1916inspired by the original,
1917but we had to depart.
1918
1919421
192000:21:34,210 --> 00:21:36,004
1921And so Dave Lowery, I should mention,
1922
1923422
192400:21:36,129 --> 00:21:37,338
1925who's our head of story,
1926
1927423
192800:21:37,505 --> 00:21:40,175
1929was overseeing
1930a very talented story department
1931
1932424
193300:21:40,258 --> 00:21:42,385
1934that would come up with
1935all these little gags
1936
1937425
193800:21:42,594 --> 00:21:43,887
1939in much the same way
1940
1941426
194200:21:44,345 --> 00:21:46,347
1943it would've been done
1944in Walt Disney's time.
1945
1946427
194700:21:46,514 --> 00:21:50,852
1948You know, we would have sessions
1949where we'd review the storyboards.
1950
1951428
195200:21:51,144 --> 00:21:54,105
1953We'd do little animatics
1954to watch them play as pencil,
1955
1956429
195700:21:54,481 --> 00:21:56,274
1958and we would lay them against the music.
1959
1960430
196100:21:56,357 --> 00:21:58,776
1962And so when we're
1963on the set "photographing,"
1964
1965431
196600:21:58,860 --> 00:22:01,029
1967I say that in quotes.
1968When we're actually capturing
1969
1970432
197100:22:01,696 --> 00:22:05,366
1972the imagery in VR,
1973using virtual cameras,
1974
1975433
197600:22:05,658 --> 00:22:09,287
1977we would have usually Adam Gerstel
1978on the set, the editor.
1979
1980434
198100:22:09,370 --> 00:22:12,749
1982And he would cut in these shots
1983
1984435
198500:22:13,875 --> 00:22:19,422
1986over the pencil drawings
1987and have the music playing behind it.
1988
1989436
199000:22:20,340 --> 00:22:22,967
1991And we would see if the shots worked,
1992
1993437
199400:22:23,051 --> 00:22:24,969
1995and so we were kind of
1996building a sequence like this
1997
1998438
199900:22:25,053 --> 00:22:27,680
2000as we went, in real time.
2001
2002439
200300:22:28,723 --> 00:22:29,974
2004You could also hear,
2005
2006440
200700:22:30,850 --> 00:22:35,730
2008of course, Hans Zimmer is, you know,
2009the beating heart of this film.
2010
2011441
201200:22:35,813 --> 00:22:39,609
2013He really helped,
2014not just helped give advice
2015
2016442
201700:22:40,485 --> 00:22:42,737
2018about what Lion King was about
2019and what the original experience was,
2020
2021443
202200:22:42,820 --> 00:22:45,031
2023but musically, I mean, I think
2024
2025444
202600:22:45,406 --> 00:22:48,868
2027it's really, truly an inspired work.
2028
2029445
203000:22:52,789 --> 00:22:54,541
2031And, you know,
2032he partnered up with Pharrell.
2033
2034446
203500:22:54,624 --> 00:22:56,042
2036He's been working
2037with Pharrell for a while,
2038
2039447
204000:22:56,125 --> 00:22:57,669
2041and what's great in a song like this is
2042
2043448
204400:22:57,752 --> 00:22:59,587
2045you could hear both of the influences,
2046
2047449
204800:22:59,671 --> 00:23:02,131
2049that mixture
2050of two different perspectives
2051
2052450
205300:23:02,215 --> 00:23:04,217
2054but two people who
2055really see eye-to-eye creatively,
2056
2057451
205800:23:04,300 --> 00:23:06,886
2059but come from different traditions
2060
2061452
206200:23:06,970 --> 00:23:11,683
2063that just collaborate on a level of just
2064
2065453
206600:23:13,101 --> 00:23:16,104
2067trying to push the limits musically.
2068So, here we are.
2069
2070454
207100:23:16,187 --> 00:23:18,106
2072Hopefully, it feels
2073just like the old song,
2074
2075455
207600:23:18,189 --> 00:23:19,857
2077but, really, if you listen to this
2078compared to...
2079
2080456
208100:23:19,941 --> 00:23:22,110
2082The new one compared to the old one,
2083
2084457
208500:23:22,193 --> 00:23:24,028
2086you'll see that there's
2087quite a bit of difference.
2088
2089458
209000:23:24,112 --> 00:23:27,156
2091But, again, tried to capture
2092the essence and the spirit.
2093
2094459
209500:23:29,701 --> 00:23:32,161
2096Now, a shot like this is very...
2097
2098460
209900:23:32,620 --> 00:23:34,163
2100More challenging than it might seem.
2101
2102461
210300:23:34,247 --> 00:23:37,542
2104You could see we're using long lenses,
2105and we're using techniques
2106
2107462
210800:23:37,625 --> 00:23:39,002
2109that you would find in a documentary.
2110
2111463
211200:23:39,085 --> 00:23:42,463
2113So, here, we're going pretty natural.
2114You're looking through foreground.
2115
2116464
211700:23:44,382 --> 00:23:46,467
2118And here we have talking animals,
2119you know, and that's...
2120
2121465
212200:23:46,551 --> 00:23:49,429
2123One of the big challenges is,
2124can you make animals talk
2125
2126466
212700:23:49,804 --> 00:23:52,765
2128and not have it be distracting
2129and have it not blow the illusion
2130
2131467
213200:23:53,975 --> 00:23:56,477
2133of watching real animals
2134in a real environment?
2135
2136468
213700:23:57,478 --> 00:23:59,147
2138And part of it is how you photograph it,
2139
2140469
214100:23:59,230 --> 00:24:01,608
2142not drawing too much
2143attention to the talking,
2144
2145470
214600:24:01,691 --> 00:24:04,027
2147but photographing them
2148like they're really doing their thing
2149
2150471
215100:24:05,236 --> 00:24:07,238
2152and having them
2153behave like real animals.
2154
2155472
215600:24:08,072 --> 00:24:09,616
2157We learned a lot on Jungle Book,
2158
2159473
216000:24:11,075 --> 00:24:13,578
2161but we also learned a lot by watching
2162other movies that did it right.
2163
2164474
216500:24:13,661 --> 00:24:15,288
2166I mean, Babe, I still contend,
2167
2168475
216900:24:15,913 --> 00:24:17,123
2170you know, those are just real animals
2171
2172476
217300:24:17,206 --> 00:24:19,000
2174for the most part
2175that they filmed in Babe.
2176
2177477
217800:24:19,334 --> 00:24:21,085
2179It was a little bit of CG
2180to make the mouths move,
2181
2182478
218300:24:21,169 --> 00:24:26,507
2184but I feel tremendous connection
2185emotionally to those characters.
2186
2187479
218800:24:27,467 --> 00:24:30,887
2189So, you know, you got to look for people
2190who have done it well before
2191
2192480
219300:24:30,970 --> 00:24:34,182
2194and people that you want to emulate
2195and things that you want to avoid.
2196
2197481
219800:24:34,265 --> 00:24:36,309
2199That was certainly one
2200that I've always...
2201
2202482
220300:24:36,392 --> 00:24:38,144
2204I think holds up incredibly well.
2205
2206483
220700:24:43,107 --> 00:24:45,443
2208So, here's James,
2209
2210484
221100:24:46,361 --> 00:24:49,697
2212and his art department worked
2213
2214485
221500:24:50,615 --> 00:24:54,661
2216very hard to figure out what should
2217the elephant graveyard look like.
2218
2219486
222000:24:54,744 --> 00:24:56,537
2221And Audrey, you know,
2222
2223487
222400:24:56,829 --> 00:24:58,081
2225over the course of,
2226
2227488
222800:24:58,164 --> 00:25:00,500
2229you know, once
2230the original artwork was done,
2231
2232489
223300:25:00,583 --> 00:25:02,543
2234each one of these shots
2235had to be designed,
2236
2237490
223800:25:02,627 --> 00:25:04,253
2239and the environment had to be designed.
2240
2241491
224200:25:04,671 --> 00:25:05,797
2243How much do you have...
2244
2245492
224600:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,342
2247You didn't want to have,
2248like, boiling green lava
2249
2250493
225100:25:09,425 --> 00:25:11,427
2252like in the old one or the imagery of,
2253
2254494
225500:25:11,928 --> 00:25:13,721
2256you know, that kind of
2257Night on Bald Mountain look
2258
2259495
226000:25:13,805 --> 00:25:16,432
2261that inspired the original, I think.
2262
2263496
226400:25:17,350 --> 00:25:20,228
2265But we had to make it look like
2266they are things that really exist
2267
2268497
226900:25:20,436 --> 00:25:22,855
2270in the African landscape.
2271
2272498
227300:25:23,272 --> 00:25:26,025
2274And so a lot of this was
2275pulled from research.
2276
2277499
227800:25:26,109 --> 00:25:28,236
2279And James Chinlund had, you know,
2280
2281500
228200:25:28,319 --> 00:25:31,698
2283a lot of wonderful artists
2284doing key frame illustrations,
2285
2286501
228700:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,450
2288trying to figure out
2289what the look of this should be.
2290
2291502
229200:25:34,534 --> 00:25:37,120
2293'Cause again, this is one
2294of those areas if we just adhered
2295
2296503
229700:25:37,245 --> 00:25:39,956
2298exactly to what was in the animated film
2299or the stage production,
2300
2301504
230200:25:40,456 --> 00:25:41,999
2303it would feel a bit out of place,
2304
2305505
230600:25:42,375 --> 00:25:45,336
2307both with the characterization
2308and with the environment,
2309
2310506
231100:25:45,545 --> 00:25:48,840
2312and with the number Be Prepared,
2313
2314507
231500:25:48,923 --> 00:25:51,843
2316that's gonna be coming up,
2317I think, in the next reel.
2318
2319508
232000:25:57,682 --> 00:26:00,143
2321So, this area here
2322and the casting of this area
2323
2324509
232500:26:00,226 --> 00:26:01,978
2326was something where we wanted to
2327
2328510
232900:26:02,353 --> 00:26:05,690
2330tip the hat to the original,
2331but we felt that this was an area where
2332
2333511
233400:26:06,023 --> 00:26:09,235
2335we needed to give ourselves
2336the freedom to depart
2337
2338512
233900:26:10,695 --> 00:26:12,321
2340creatively from what was there
2341
2342513
234300:26:12,405 --> 00:26:15,199
2344to help serve the story
2345and this particular project better.
2346
2347514
234800:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,286
2349And so you have Keegan-Michael Key here
2350
2351515
235200:26:18,703 --> 00:26:22,749
2353paired up with Eric André,
2354two very funny improvisers who,
2355
2356516
235700:26:23,583 --> 00:26:27,462
2358if you see behind-the-scenes on this,
2359this is probably the only time
2360
2361517
236200:26:27,545 --> 00:26:28,546
2363they ever said it like this...
2364
2365518
236600:26:28,629 --> 00:26:33,176
2367(LAUGHING) And they did about
236825 different versions of this.
2369
2370519
237100:26:35,470 --> 00:26:39,807
2372I had them together with JD, I believe.
2373
2374520
237500:26:39,891 --> 00:26:41,350
2376I certainly had them together recording.
2377
2378521
237900:26:41,434 --> 00:26:43,394
2380I tried to get the actors together
2381as much as I could
2382
2383522
238400:26:43,478 --> 00:26:45,313
2385so that the performances would feel...
2386
2387523
238800:26:45,897 --> 00:26:48,274
2389There'd be more organic chemistry
2390between them.
2391
2392524
239300:26:48,816 --> 00:26:53,237
2394And I encouraged a lot of improvisation,
2395especially for the comedy sequences.
2396
2397525
239800:26:54,405 --> 00:26:56,699
2399So I hired people
2400who had a improv background,
2401
2402526
240300:26:56,783 --> 00:26:58,993
2404a comedy background, writing background.
2405
2406527
240700:26:59,869 --> 00:27:02,705
2408And Eric and Keegan-Michael Key were
2409
2410528
241100:27:03,831 --> 00:27:05,166
2412very much,
2413
2414529
241500:27:06,375 --> 00:27:09,295
2416you know, creative collaborators.
2417And here is Florence Kasumba,
2418
2419530
242000:27:10,213 --> 00:27:14,801
2421who's a wonderful voice and performer,
2422and a lot of this we also filmed.
2423
2424531
242500:27:15,134 --> 00:27:16,886
2426We would film rehearsals, essentially.
2427
2428532
242900:27:16,969 --> 00:27:20,473
2430We'd record the voices, and we would
2431have a little black box theater,
2432
2433533
243400:27:21,098 --> 00:27:23,893
2435and we would mic all of the actors
2436so that we could use the sound,
2437
2438534
243900:27:23,976 --> 00:27:26,854
2440but we would shoot
2441video reference on long lenses.
2442
2443535
244400:27:26,938 --> 00:27:28,064
2445And we would just have them
2446
2447536
244800:27:28,523 --> 00:27:31,692
2449like... As though it were
2450a theater rehearsal,
2451
2452537
245300:27:32,026 --> 00:27:34,237
2454we would have them actually
2455walk around holding their scripts
2456
2457538
245800:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,947
2459and performing together
2460
2461539
246200:27:36,906 --> 00:27:38,199
2463to get that interactive energy
2464
2465540
246600:27:38,282 --> 00:27:40,743
2467that would also contribute
2468to the live-action feel.
2469
2470541
247100:27:41,077 --> 00:27:42,161
2472That's how you would film a movie.
2473
2474542
247500:27:42,245 --> 00:27:44,831
2476You would rehearse together,
2477and you would do a master,
2478
2479543
248000:27:44,914 --> 00:27:46,123
2481and you would do coverage.
2482
2483544
248400:27:46,374 --> 00:27:49,877
2485And so I wanted to capture
2486that interactive quality
2487
2488545
248900:27:49,961 --> 00:27:51,838
2490that animated films often don't have
2491
2492546
249300:27:51,921 --> 00:27:54,048
2494because they'll record people
2495separately, usually.
2496
2497547
249800:27:54,465 --> 00:27:58,177
2499Here, we tried to just record them in
2500the most natural environment we could.
2501
2502548
250300:27:58,636 --> 00:28:01,597
2504And I was there
2505to help direct and oversee
2506
2507549
250800:28:01,848 --> 00:28:04,183
2509if we wanted to depart
2510from the script or try things.
2511
2512550
251300:28:06,018 --> 00:28:07,436
2514You know, we would have Jeff Nathanson,
2515
2516551
251700:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,856
2518who wrote this version
2519of the script around,
2520
2521552
252200:28:09,981 --> 00:28:12,650
2523and he would react
2524and offer suggestions, too.
2525
2526553
252700:28:14,777 --> 00:28:16,571
2528(HYENAS GROWLING)
2529
2530554
253100:28:18,489 --> 00:28:21,784
2532FAVREAU: And so now we're
2533kind of getting back to where...
2534
2535555
253600:28:22,869 --> 00:28:25,830
2537What was in the original film,
2538because now you're getting into areas
2539
2540556
254100:28:27,290 --> 00:28:31,586
2542that fit better and are very memorable
2543
2544557
254500:28:31,669 --> 00:28:34,046
2546and are plot points
2547for character progression.
2548
2549558
255000:28:35,464 --> 00:28:38,426
2551So, this appearance of Mufasa,
2552
2553559
255400:28:41,095 --> 00:28:42,138
2555and the roar.
2556
2557560
255800:28:42,638 --> 00:28:46,726
2559And of course, now you have
2560Hans Zimmer's themes come in again.
2561
2562561
256300:28:47,768 --> 00:28:49,312
2564And the one thing I learned was
2565
2566562
256700:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,689
2568all this effort we put into
2569the visual effects
2570
2571563
257200:28:51,814 --> 00:28:56,611
2573and the performances and the casting
2574and the environments, you know,
2575
2576564
257700:28:56,694 --> 00:29:00,197
2578and here we were, everybody was
2579really working at the top of their game.
2580
2581565
258200:29:00,615 --> 00:29:04,327
2583But when you heard
2584the score being recorded,
2585
2586566
258700:29:04,410 --> 00:29:05,870
2588you realized that
2589
2590567
259100:29:06,203 --> 00:29:08,706
2592the real thing
2593that pulls you in emotionally
2594
2595568
259600:29:09,123 --> 00:29:12,168
2597on these Disney classics,
2598especially this one, is the music.
2599
2600569
260100:29:12,877 --> 00:29:14,253
2602These songs are...
2603
2604570
260500:29:15,171 --> 00:29:16,589
2606Somehow connect.
2607
2608571
260900:29:17,506 --> 00:29:20,760
2610They're so emotionally evocative,
2611
2612572
261300:29:21,469 --> 00:29:23,679
2614and they bring back
2615all the memories of how you felt
2616
2617573
261800:29:23,763 --> 00:29:26,515
2619when you were younger watching this.
2620There's something about music,
2621
2622574
262300:29:27,350 --> 00:29:28,976
2624especially music that's
2625
2626575
262700:29:29,894 --> 00:29:32,605
2628so beautifully conceived as this
2629and performed
2630
2631576
263200:29:32,688 --> 00:29:36,734
2633that just taps
2634directly into memory emotion.
2635
2636577
263700:29:37,151 --> 00:29:40,112
2638And, you know,
2639some of the stuff you'll see later on
2640
2641578
264200:29:40,196 --> 00:29:44,700
2643that's the most emotional,
2644really is just landing on an image,
2645
2646579
264700:29:44,784 --> 00:29:48,037
2648letting the audience look at the image,
2649and then letting the music just fill
2650
2651580
265200:29:48,704 --> 00:29:49,705
2653the theater.
2654
2655581
265600:29:54,835 --> 00:29:59,882
2657I was very grateful
2658to have this, you know, classic score,
2659
2660582
266100:30:00,758 --> 00:30:02,885
2662and the songs, too, of course,
2663
2664583
266500:30:02,969 --> 00:30:05,930
2666which, you know,
2667they really blend into one another.
2668
2669584
267000:30:06,013 --> 00:30:10,601
2671But you have the songs where
2672you have Elton John, Tim Rice, Lebo M,
2673
2674585
267500:30:10,685 --> 00:30:15,356
2676and all of them were involved, along
2677with Hans Zimmer, with this production.
2678
2679586
268000:30:15,439 --> 00:30:18,067
2681And I found that as I approached people
2682
2683587
268400:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,277
2685who were involved
2686with the original productions,
2687
2688588
268900:30:20,361 --> 00:30:22,738
2690they were very...
2691
2692589
269300:30:22,822 --> 00:30:27,535
2694The original held
2695such a big place in their hearts
2696
2697590
269800:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,412
2699that everybody was extremely generous,
2700
2701591
270200:30:29,495 --> 00:30:31,872
2703whether it was people
2704who worked on the original film,
2705
2706592
270700:30:31,956 --> 00:30:33,082
2708whether it was people
2709who worked on this film,
2710
2711593
271200:30:33,165 --> 00:30:38,546
2713or people that I just reached out to, to
2714ask about what the experience was like,
2715
2716594
271700:30:38,629 --> 00:30:40,339
2718what was important,
2719what they cared about,
2720
2721595
272200:30:40,423 --> 00:30:44,010
2723and I was really
2724
2725596
272600:30:44,844 --> 00:30:47,847
2727impressed with how much people cared
2728and how generous they were
2729
2730597
273100:30:47,930 --> 00:30:50,766
2732with offering their advice
2733and thoughts on it
2734
2735598
273600:30:50,850 --> 00:30:53,978
2737because they had all lived with this,
2738and it meant a lot to them,
2739
2740599
274100:30:54,061 --> 00:30:57,481
2742and they knew how important it was
2743to people who grew up watching this.
2744
2745600
274600:30:58,691 --> 00:31:02,153
2747And so there was a tremendous
2748responsibility that we all felt
2749
2750601
275100:31:02,236 --> 00:31:05,531
2752to make sure that we took into account,
2753
2754602
275500:31:06,157 --> 00:31:10,619
2756you know, all the various perspectives
2757of people who cared about the original
2758
2759603
276000:31:10,703 --> 00:31:12,038
2761and about this one.
2762
2763604
276400:31:12,121 --> 00:31:16,959
2765And so we found that we had
2766to fulfill people's expectations
2767
2768605
276900:31:17,043 --> 00:31:18,878
2770and not let them down,
2771make them understand
2772
2773606
277400:31:18,961 --> 00:31:22,214
2775that we really cared about this movie
2776as much as they did,
2777
2778607
277900:31:22,298 --> 00:31:26,844
2780but also to change things
2781and surprise people wherever possible.
2782
2783608
278400:31:30,514 --> 00:31:32,892
2785But you're not scared
2786of anything.
2787
2788609
278900:31:33,392 --> 00:31:34,894
2790I was today.
2791
2792610
279300:31:34,977 --> 00:31:36,062
2794You were?
2795
2796611
279700:31:36,145 --> 00:31:40,191
2798Yes. I thought
2799I might lose you.
2800
2801612
280200:31:40,274 --> 00:31:43,486
2803FAVREAU: But a sequence like this
2804is one of those where
2805
2806613
280700:31:45,112 --> 00:31:49,492
2808you kind of wanna play it
2809like how it is on the album,
2810
2811614
281200:31:49,575 --> 00:31:50,618
2813(CHUCKLES)
2814
2815615
281600:31:50,701 --> 00:31:52,578
2817to borrow from music.
2818
2819616
282000:31:52,661 --> 00:31:55,498
2821When you play this song live,
2822you want it to sound like on the album.
2823
2824617
282500:31:55,581 --> 00:31:57,917
2826You don't wanna change the solo here.
2827
2828618
282900:31:58,918 --> 00:32:01,796
2830You wanna stick to the same guitar solo,
2831
2832619
283300:32:01,879 --> 00:32:05,508
2834and the music and the imagery
2835and the stars and the dialogue
2836
2837620
283800:32:05,591 --> 00:32:09,470
2839and the performances
2840and James Earl Jones' voice.
2841
2842621
284300:32:09,553 --> 00:32:13,974
2844And how important this scene is,
2845how it sets up
2846
2847622
284800:32:14,725 --> 00:32:18,270
2849the sad moments to come,
2850and then the emotional, happier moments
2851
2852623
285300:32:18,354 --> 00:32:22,316
2854where he's remembering and realizing
2855
2856624
285700:32:22,399 --> 00:32:25,569
2858that his father really does live in him.
2859
2860625
286100:32:26,779 --> 00:32:30,866
2862And, you know, I think it's one of those
2863scenes that we all relate to,
2864
2865626
286600:32:31,992 --> 00:32:37,456
2867you know, as anybody who's been through,
2868who's experienced loss.
2869
2870627
287100:32:37,957 --> 00:32:40,751
2872And you think back
2873on a time before that,
2874
2875628
287600:32:40,835 --> 00:32:44,296
2877and you have very vivid memories
2878of those people in your life.
2879
2880629
288100:32:45,297 --> 00:32:50,261
2882And a conversation that might've
2883just been a casual conversation
2884
2885630
288600:32:50,344 --> 00:32:53,639
2887takes on greater importance
2888when you look back on it.
2889
2890631
289100:32:54,181 --> 00:32:57,726
2892And I think that the original film
2893and the people involved,
2894
2895632
289600:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,814
2897the filmmakers and the people
2898performing the music,
2899
2900633
290100:33:01,897 --> 00:33:04,817
2902writing the music,
2903all really captured that so well there,
2904
2905634
290600:33:05,860 --> 00:33:08,612
2907and hopefully, we captured it as well.
2908
2909635
291000:33:10,698 --> 00:33:13,075
2911And now we get into Be Prepared.
2912
2913636
291400:33:13,826 --> 00:33:17,496
2915And this was a song
2916that we really wrestled with,
2917
2918637
291900:33:17,580 --> 00:33:21,125
2920because we knew
2921we wanted to have something
2922
2923638
292400:33:21,750 --> 00:33:26,463
2925that referenced the original,
2926but we weren't sure, at first,
2927
2928639
292900:33:26,547 --> 00:33:28,883
2930whether we could have
2931a whole song that was sung,
2932
2933640
293400:33:28,966 --> 00:33:31,635
2935because up until this point,
2936
2937641
293800:33:31,719 --> 00:33:38,142
2939everything else felt kind of justified
2940in the reality of the tone of this.
2941
2942642
294300:33:38,225 --> 00:33:41,854
2944But to have Scar break into song
2945and sing it, and if you look
2946
2947643
294800:33:41,937 --> 00:33:43,814
2949at the original lyrics,
2950it doesn't really fit
2951
2952644
295300:33:43,898 --> 00:33:46,775
2954with the way we've conceived
2955the story this time.
2956
2957645
295800:33:46,859 --> 00:33:48,861
2959And then, certainly, the environment,
2960
2961646
296200:33:48,944 --> 00:33:54,241
2963the choreography doesn't feel like
2964it fits into a live action,
2965
2966647
296700:33:54,658 --> 00:33:56,368
2968a film that appears to be live action.
2969
2970648
297100:33:59,955 --> 00:34:03,042
2972As we were wrestling whether
2973we would include the song or not,
2974
2975649
297600:34:03,125 --> 00:34:04,793
2977we reached out to Tim Rice.
2978
2979650
298000:34:04,877 --> 00:34:07,129
2981First, to Hans, which was like,
2982
2983651
298400:34:07,213 --> 00:34:11,884
2985"Hans, is there a version of this song
2986that we could do that fits into ours,
2987
2988652
298900:34:11,967 --> 00:34:13,761
2990"but still feels like the old one,
2991
2992653
299300:34:13,886 --> 00:34:20,643
2994"that still kinda honors people's
2995expectations and the original story?"
2996
2997654
299800:34:20,726 --> 00:34:23,520
2999And then, certainly, in the Disney...
3000
3001655
300200:34:23,604 --> 00:34:27,316
3003When you're doing a Disney movie,
3004a villain song is a big, important part.
3005
3006656
300700:34:27,399 --> 00:34:30,277
3008It's really when they lay
3009their cards on the table.
3010
3011657
301200:34:33,697 --> 00:34:37,368
3013And so, first, it was a monologue
3014that was written by Jeff.
3015
3016658
301700:34:37,743 --> 00:34:41,121
3018And then we started to say, "Well,
3019could we do this with the song?"
3020
3021659
302200:34:41,830 --> 00:34:44,959
3023And remember, in the old one,
3024he already was conspiring with them.
3025
3026660
302700:34:45,042 --> 00:34:50,089
3028In this one, he's presenting a scenario,
3029
3030661
303100:34:50,673 --> 00:34:54,885
3032and he's pitching them
3033on allying with him
3034
3035662
303600:34:54,969 --> 00:34:58,681
3037in a conspiracy against Mufasa.
3038
3039663
304000:35:00,015 --> 00:35:02,393
3041So, we switched it up enough.
3042
3043664
304400:35:02,476 --> 00:35:04,770
3045I mean, unless you know
3046the original movie well,
3047
3048665
304900:35:04,853 --> 00:35:06,105
3050that might've slid by you,
3051
3052666
305300:35:06,188 --> 00:35:08,190
3054but it's a slightly
3055different plot point.
3056
3057667
305800:35:08,274 --> 00:35:09,525
3059And so the lyrics in the original
3060
3061668
306200:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,444
3063reflected a much different relationship
3064between Scar and the hyenas.
3065
3066669
306700:35:15,281 --> 00:35:19,493
3068And so this was the remnants
3069of the original monologue,
3070
3071670
307200:35:19,576 --> 00:35:24,248
3073and then Hans built a whole
3074musical take on this song,
3075
3076671
307700:35:24,331 --> 00:35:25,958
3078which you're seeing here.
3079
3080672
308100:35:26,041 --> 00:35:28,294
3082And then we approached Tim Rice
3083
3084673
308500:35:28,377 --> 00:35:33,757
3086and asked if he would be open
3087to reconceiving the lyrics of this song.
3088
3089674
309000:35:34,258 --> 00:35:39,596
3091And so we showed him the movie,
3092what we had, 'cause it was developing.
3093
3094675
309500:35:40,055 --> 00:35:41,515
3096A lot of this was still
3097in pencil at the time,
3098
3099676
310000:35:41,598 --> 00:35:43,225
3101but we showed him what we had,
3102
3103677
310400:35:43,309 --> 00:35:46,770
3105and he could not have
3106been more collaborative,
3107
3108678
310900:35:46,854 --> 00:35:49,648
3110and so he came up
3111with this beautiful poetry.
3112
3113679
311400:35:50,232 --> 00:35:52,860
3115And so it feels like
3116the old Be Prepared,
3117
3118680
311900:35:52,943 --> 00:35:54,695
3120but if you look in the credits,
3121you'll see it's actually
3122
3123681
312400:35:54,778 --> 00:35:57,281
3125Be Prepared, 2019 version.
3126
3127682
312800:35:59,742 --> 00:36:03,287
3129And so it feels like Be Prepared,
3130
3131683
313200:36:03,370 --> 00:36:06,915
3133but it actually deviates quite a bit.
3134
3135684
313600:36:06,999 --> 00:36:08,959
3137And of course, the visuals
3138deviate quite a bit as well.
3139
3140685
314100:36:09,084 --> 00:36:12,588
3142(SINGING) Decades of denial
3143Is simply why I'll
3144
3145686
314600:36:13,047 --> 00:36:14,965
3147Be king
3148Undisputed
3149
3150687
315100:36:15,132 --> 00:36:17,051
3152Respected
3153Saluted
3154
3155688
315600:36:17,217 --> 00:36:20,220
3157And seen for the wonder I am
3158
3159689
316000:36:20,763 --> 00:36:24,725
3161Yes, my teeth
3162and ambitions are bared
3163
3164690
316500:36:24,892 --> 00:36:26,769
3166Be prepared
3167
3168691
316900:36:29,104 --> 00:36:31,398
3170- HYENAS: Be prepared
3171- Be prepared
3172
3173692
317400:36:31,565 --> 00:36:34,902
3175FAVREAU: This is one of
3176the last sequences to be finished.
3177
3178693
317900:36:37,363 --> 00:36:39,740
3180I love this type of lighting, too.
3181
3182694
318300:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,371
3184I think they talk about
3185Gustave Doré, the artist.
3186
3187695
318800:36:46,080 --> 00:36:50,584
3189You have that very dark foreground
3190
3191696
319200:36:50,667 --> 00:36:56,382
3193and bright, deep backgrounds
3194that create a very graphic quality.
3195
3196697
319700:36:56,465 --> 00:36:59,259
3198And there's the imagery that
3199we wanted to capture from the original.
3200
3201698
320200:36:59,343 --> 00:37:03,597
3203So, even though we deviated quite a bit,
3204we wanted the end of it to feel similar,
3205
3206699
320700:37:04,139 --> 00:37:07,101
3208with the sliver of a moon,
3209
3210700
321100:37:07,267 --> 00:37:09,061
3212the dark, starless sky
3213going into the sun.
3214
3215701
321600:37:14,149 --> 00:37:16,443
3217And now this is the scene
3218
3219702
322000:37:18,195 --> 00:37:19,571
3221where
3222
3223703
322400:37:21,573 --> 00:37:23,992
3225people start to get uncomfortable,
3226
3227704
322800:37:24,076 --> 00:37:27,538
3229because if they've seen the old movie,
3230they know what's coming here.
3231
3232705
323300:37:33,293 --> 00:37:35,754
3234And this is one of the first scenes...
3235
3236706
323700:37:35,838 --> 00:37:38,757
3238I mean, this is some
3239of the first shots we rendered.
3240
3241707
324200:37:38,841 --> 00:37:41,385
3243This sequence, certainly,
3244the stampede was...
3245
3246708
324700:37:41,468 --> 00:37:45,013
3248Even in the original film, the stampede
3249was the sequence that took
3250
3251709
325200:37:46,432 --> 00:37:49,393
3253the longest time,
3254because it was early visual effects,
3255
3256710
325700:37:49,476 --> 00:37:53,981
3258early computer sims to get
3259all the stampeding wildebeests
3260
3261711
326200:37:54,064 --> 00:37:56,692
3263to come down the cliff.
3264
3265712
326600:37:57,693 --> 00:38:00,696
3267If you look here,
3268you could see in the coverage
3269
3270713
327100:38:00,779 --> 00:38:03,949
3272Simba looks a little different
3273than the rest of the film.
3274
3275714
327600:38:05,659 --> 00:38:08,620
3277You see little things,
3278like the shape of the eyes.
3279
3280715
328100:38:08,704 --> 00:38:11,999
3282So, even though we had
3283an approved design of the character,
3284
3285716
328600:38:12,082 --> 00:38:13,834
3287the character evolved quite a bit.
3288
3289717
329000:38:13,917 --> 00:38:16,670
3291Scar stayed pretty much the same,
3292
3293718
329400:38:17,254 --> 00:38:20,757
3295'cause you're talking about
3296three years to make the movie,
3297
3298719
329900:38:20,841 --> 00:38:23,969
3300about two years from the first render
3301to the last render.
3302
3303720
330400:38:34,646 --> 00:38:37,107
3305So, here's a little sequence
3306that actually, I think...
3307
3308721
330900:38:37,191 --> 00:38:40,652
3310This is one of those areas that
3311people really remember the original,
3312
3313722
331400:38:40,736 --> 00:38:45,157
3315because it's so emotional,
3316this whole sequence coming up.
3317
3318723
331900:38:45,782 --> 00:38:47,993
3320So, I believe there was, I remember...
3321
3322724
332300:38:48,076 --> 00:38:50,829
3324We were constantly
3325referencing the old film.
3326
3327725
332800:38:50,913 --> 00:38:52,331
3329Even if we departed from it,
3330
3331726
333200:38:52,414 --> 00:38:55,167
3333we wanted to remind ourselves
3334what they did the first time around,
3335
3336727
333700:38:55,250 --> 00:38:57,377
3338because it really holds up quite well,
3339
3340728
334100:38:57,461 --> 00:39:00,172
3342and we knew that it was a movie
3343that people knew very well,
3344
3345729
334600:39:00,255 --> 00:39:01,882
3347and we wanted to make sure
3348that we understood it
3349
3350730
335100:39:01,965 --> 00:39:03,800
3352as well as the audience did,
3353
3354731
335500:39:03,884 --> 00:39:07,012
3356and if we were gonna depart from it,
3357we wanted to do it for a reason.
3358
3359732
336000:39:10,432 --> 00:39:12,601
3361So, here, now you're getting into...
3362
3363733
336400:39:13,477 --> 00:39:15,103
3365Although the shots
3366are slightly different,
3367
3368734
336900:39:15,187 --> 00:39:17,356
3370each story point is the same.
3371
3372735
337300:39:18,190 --> 00:39:21,151
3374And the idea of the vibration
3375and the movement,
3376
3377736
337800:39:22,110 --> 00:39:23,570
3379and, you know,
3380
3381737
338200:39:24,655 --> 00:39:28,825
3383arriving on this image because it
3384has to be different from the original,
3385
3386738
338700:39:28,909 --> 00:39:31,328
3388'cause it was so extreme
3389in the original,
3390
3391739
339200:39:31,411 --> 00:39:34,665
3393but you still wanted to get
3394that energy and the same feel.
3395
3396740
339700:39:36,250 --> 00:39:40,254
3398And again, a lot was...
3399Rob Legato had worked on Apollo 13,
3400
3401741
340200:39:40,337 --> 00:39:44,007
3403and in that film,
3404he had recreated the...
3405
3406742
340700:39:44,091 --> 00:39:48,262
3408This is my favorite sound moment,
3409as it goes through that virtual camera.
3410
3411743
341200:39:48,345 --> 00:39:52,808
3413We normally wouldn't have the camera
3414be quite that free or fly that freely,
3415
3416744
341700:39:52,891 --> 00:39:56,979
3418because that's a bit of a tell
3419that it's a CG camera move.
3420
3421745
342200:39:57,062 --> 00:39:59,439
3423We tended to want
3424to keep it very grounded
3425
3426746
342700:39:59,523 --> 00:40:02,025
3428in operating it, as though
3429it were a real camera platform.
3430
3431747
343200:40:02,109 --> 00:40:04,945
3433But that's one of the moments
3434where we let ourselves go a little,
3435
3436748
343700:40:05,028 --> 00:40:06,029
3438have a little fun with it,
3439
3440749
344100:40:06,113 --> 00:40:08,532
3442'cause it actually brings
3443a lot of energy if you do it.
3444
3445750
344600:40:08,615 --> 00:40:13,870
3447But, here, that's a real dolly track
3448that we had, and real camera operators.
3449
3450751
345100:40:15,622 --> 00:40:19,042
3452So, those moves were real, you know,
3453a dolly grip, a camera operator.
3454
3455752
345600:40:21,336 --> 00:40:25,841
3457It was done as you would
3458in live action, these moves, too.
3459
3460753
346100:40:27,259 --> 00:40:30,470
3462But as I was saying before,
3463Rob Legato had worked on Apollo 13,
3464
3465754
346600:40:30,554 --> 00:40:33,140
3467and they recreated the launch.
3468
3469755
347000:40:33,223 --> 00:40:37,603
3471And they looked at all the
3472old television footage of the launch,
3473
3474756
347500:40:37,686 --> 00:40:41,315
3476and all the cameras that they had
3477for the original launch of the Apollo.
3478
3479757
348000:40:41,398 --> 00:40:43,400
3481And then they...
3482
3483758
348400:40:44,192 --> 00:40:48,071
3485The trick was that they could deviate
3486from it. But you want...
3487
3488759
348900:40:48,155 --> 00:40:50,115
3490Sometimes, when you deviate from it,
3491
3492760
349300:40:50,198 --> 00:40:52,701
3494you do it in a way where
3495people remember it differently,
3496
3497761
349800:40:52,784 --> 00:40:56,747
3499and a lot of people who had been
3500involved with the original Apollo
3501
3502762
350300:40:56,830 --> 00:40:58,874
3504had asked where they got
3505certain footage from
3506
3507763
350800:40:58,957 --> 00:41:02,919
3509that they hadn't seen before,
3510and he was like, "No, we recreated it."
3511
3512764
351300:41:03,003 --> 00:41:06,089
3514I believe a lot of it was
3515in miniatures and early CG.
3516
3517765
351800:41:06,173 --> 00:41:09,009
3519And so sometimes,
3520
3521766
352200:41:09,468 --> 00:41:15,223
3523our memories are not
3524as photographic as we think.
3525
3526767
352700:41:16,016 --> 00:41:18,894
3528And often, if you can capture
3529the essence of what people remember
3530
3531768
353200:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,479
3533and the emotional memory,
3534
3535769
353600:41:20,562 --> 00:41:23,523
3537you can actually take
3538quite a bit of liberty with it
3539
3540770
354100:41:23,607 --> 00:41:27,736
3542and still make it feel as though
3543you're emulating, shot for shot,
3544
3545771
354600:41:27,819 --> 00:41:29,446
3547what people are used to seeing.
3548
3549772
355000:41:29,780 --> 00:41:34,117
3551So, again, this area should feel
3552very close to shot for shot,
3553
3554773
355500:41:34,201 --> 00:41:36,286
3556but if you actually ran it up
3557against the other film,
3558
3559774
356000:41:36,370 --> 00:41:38,080
3561you'd see we actually
3562departed quite a bit
3563
3564775
356500:41:38,163 --> 00:41:41,166
3566to help maintain
3567
3568776
356900:41:43,460 --> 00:41:45,170
3570more of a plausibility.
3571
3572777
357300:41:47,381 --> 00:41:51,677
3574I love the subtlety of all
3575the performances, all the animators.
3576
3577778
357800:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,013
3579I think we lose sight often,
3580because there's such a...
3581
3582779
358300:41:55,972 --> 00:41:58,725
3584It's so fascinating to hear about
3585the technology associated with this,
3586
3587780
358800:41:58,809 --> 00:42:02,437
3589but you realize that
3590these are handmade films,
3591
3592781
359300:42:03,855 --> 00:42:08,318
3594where every single shot, you know,
3595you have artists, dozens of artists,
3596
3597782
359800:42:08,402 --> 00:42:13,115
3599whether it's environment designers
3600or layout artists or animators,
3601
3602783
360300:42:13,615 --> 00:42:17,369
3604technical directors
3605overseeing the rendering,
3606
3607784
360800:42:17,452 --> 00:42:19,538
3609people refining the lighting,
3610
3611785
361200:42:19,621 --> 00:42:21,707
3613each of these is a handmade shot.
3614
3615786
361600:42:22,416 --> 00:42:24,167
3617And this moment,
3618
3619787
362000:42:24,251 --> 00:42:28,130
3621and just the human emotion
3622in this sequence right here,
3623
3624788
362500:42:28,213 --> 00:42:31,049
3626of the struggle to climb up the hill
3627and how the rocks tumble down
3628
3629789
363000:42:31,133 --> 00:42:35,929
3631and how the light,
3632the backlight makes the fur glow,
3633
3634790
363500:42:37,139 --> 00:42:42,436
3636and how the earth is colored there.
3637
3638791
363900:42:42,519 --> 00:42:45,772
3640And how, you know, it's still graphic,
3641
3642792
364300:42:45,856 --> 00:42:48,817
3644but still accurate
3645to what is really there,
3646
3647793
364800:42:48,900 --> 00:42:54,573
3649the way the camera is moving around,
3650the emotion in the face of young Simba.
3651
3652794
365300:42:54,656 --> 00:42:56,825
3654Even though he can't frown,
3655
3656795
365700:42:56,908 --> 00:42:59,745
3658even though he can't make a face
3659to see so much expression.
3660
3661796
366200:42:59,828 --> 00:43:01,580
3663And of course, the music.
3664
3665797
366600:43:02,330 --> 00:43:05,667
3667You realize that this is
3668a really supremely human medium.
3669
3670798
367100:43:11,381 --> 00:43:12,382
3672(GROWLS)
3673
3674799
367500:43:12,466 --> 00:43:14,050
3676(ROARS)
3677
3678800
367900:43:14,676 --> 00:43:18,096
3680Long live the king!
3681
3682801
368300:43:19,890 --> 00:43:21,266
3684(MUFASA SCREAMING)
3685
3686802
368700:43:22,851 --> 00:43:26,146
3688FAVREAU: And of course,
3689because it's so photorealistic,
3690
3691803
369200:43:26,938 --> 00:43:29,357
3693we wanted to capture
3694the images people remember,
3695
3696804
369700:43:29,441 --> 00:43:31,443
3698but also it's...
3699
3700805
370100:43:31,526 --> 00:43:35,238
3702There's definitely
3703a greater intensity to it,
3704
3705806
370600:43:35,322 --> 00:43:39,910
3707that we wanted to make sure
3708that we would capture the emotion
3709
3710807
371100:43:40,076 --> 00:43:42,662
3712without being too graphic
3713or seeing anything actually happen,
3714
3715808
371600:43:45,081 --> 00:43:48,084
3717which is kind of
3718a Disney tradition as well,
3719
3720809
372100:43:48,168 --> 00:43:50,670
3722but we felt it was
3723even more important here,
3724
3725810
372600:43:50,754 --> 00:43:53,256
3727and so we were very careful about...
3728
3729811
373000:43:53,590 --> 00:43:56,009
3731And this was the sequence
3732coming up right here
3733
3734812
373500:43:56,092 --> 00:43:58,512
3736that I was most concerned about.
3737
3738813
373900:43:58,595 --> 00:44:02,724
3740And part of... One of the big
3741reasons I wanted to hire Caleb is
3742
3743814
374400:44:02,808 --> 00:44:04,601
3745I knew that with
3746
3747815
374800:44:05,352 --> 00:44:08,230
3749such an accomplished
3750and talented photographer,
3751
3752816
375300:44:08,313 --> 00:44:09,940
3754you can have an image like this
3755
3756817
375700:44:10,524 --> 00:44:13,819
3758that relies more on
3759the lighting and composition.
3760
3761818
376200:44:14,528 --> 00:44:20,450
3763And we actually stay very long on
3764a long lens like this for a long time.
3765
3766819
376700:44:23,745 --> 00:44:26,164
3768And of course, the music comes in
3769
3770820
377100:44:28,416 --> 00:44:31,211
3772and really fills the whole thing out.
3773
3774821
377500:44:32,170 --> 00:44:34,005
3776And when I took on this job,
3777
3778822
377900:44:34,089 --> 00:44:37,509
3780I wasn't thinking about how much
3781I would have to watch this sequence.
3782
3783823
378400:44:38,093 --> 00:44:40,512
3785And it's not like it diminishes at all.
3786
3787824
378800:44:47,185 --> 00:44:49,354
3789I love how the animators did this,
3790
3791825
379200:44:50,146 --> 00:44:51,690
3793'cause there's no...
3794
3795826
379600:44:53,358 --> 00:44:57,863
3797They didn't create
3798a human performance on Simba's face,
3799
3800827
380100:44:57,946 --> 00:45:00,365
3802yet you feel tremendous emotion.
3803
3804828
380500:45:06,705 --> 00:45:12,002
3806And being in the recording studio
3807at Sony with the full orchestra
3808
3809829
381000:45:12,586 --> 00:45:15,255
3811and hearing them play this piece
3812while the footage
3813
3814830
381500:45:15,338 --> 00:45:21,303
3816played overhead on the screen
3817was so powerful.
3818
3819831
382000:45:21,386 --> 00:45:23,179
3821One of the things Hans Zimmer did,
3822
3823832
382400:45:23,263 --> 00:45:27,893
3825because he wanted to differentiate this
3826from the original recording,
3827
3828833
382900:45:27,976 --> 00:45:29,686
3830where he felt...
3831
3832834
383300:45:29,769 --> 00:45:32,147
3834At the time, when they were
3835making the original Lion King,
3836
3837835
383800:45:32,230 --> 00:45:35,734
3839it was not the classic that it is now.
3840
3841836
384200:45:35,817 --> 00:45:40,363
3843There wasn't a lot of time
3844or resources to get it right.
3845
3846837
384700:45:40,947 --> 00:45:43,742
3848And so, often times, on a film like that,
3849
3850838
385100:45:43,825 --> 00:45:46,369
3852you always feel like
3853you're rushing at times,
3854
3855839
385600:45:46,453 --> 00:45:49,205
3857or sometimes compromising
3858what you'd like to explore
3859
3860840
386100:45:49,289 --> 00:45:51,333
3862if you had more resources.
3863
3864841
386500:45:51,416 --> 00:45:54,294
3866And so when they came
3867together to do this,
3868
3869842
387000:45:54,377 --> 00:45:58,256
3871Hans was like, "Let me really
3872get in there and fill out the orchestra
3873
3874843
387500:45:58,340 --> 00:46:01,468
3876"in the way that I didn't have
3877the opportunity to do before
3878
3879844
388000:46:01,551 --> 00:46:05,013
3881"and let me take everything I've learned
3882
3883845
388400:46:05,096 --> 00:46:07,891
3885"in these last 25 years
3886and apply it to this."
3887
3888846
388900:46:07,974 --> 00:46:12,562
3890And one of the things that he had
3891learned was that if you have a...
3892
3893847
389400:46:12,646 --> 00:46:16,566
3895Because he's toured with an orchestra
3896and done his scores on the road.
3897
3898848
389900:46:17,067 --> 00:46:19,194
3900And it's a very powerful production,
3901
3902849
390300:46:19,277 --> 00:46:22,656
3904if you ever have the opportunity
3905to see one of Hans Zimmer's live shows.
3906
3907850
390800:46:23,698 --> 00:46:25,158
3909Not only does he have so many...
3910
3911851
391200:46:25,241 --> 00:46:30,914
3913I mean, Lion King is just one
3914of his very prolific catalogue.
3915
3916852
391700:46:31,289 --> 00:46:34,501
3918But hearing it played live with a band
3919
3920853
392100:46:34,584 --> 00:46:37,253
3922that has rehearsed it
3923is much different than...
3924
3925854
392600:46:38,129 --> 00:46:39,547
3927It's a much different energy
3928
3929855
393000:46:39,631 --> 00:46:44,010
3931than just an orchestra
3932recording for the first time.
3933
3934856
393500:46:44,094 --> 00:46:47,013
3936And so Hans Zimmer brought
3937the whole orchestra together
3938
3939857
394000:46:47,097 --> 00:46:50,141
3941and rehearsed them for close to a week,
3942
3943858
394400:46:50,225 --> 00:46:52,936
3945and when we actually recorded the score,
3946
3947859
394800:46:53,019 --> 00:46:56,606
3949he invited everybody
3950who worked on the movie to come.
3951
3952860
395300:46:56,690 --> 00:46:58,191
3954And we set up chairs,
3955
3956861
395700:46:58,274 --> 00:47:00,151
3958and they were actually
3959in the room with the musicians.
3960
3961862
396200:47:00,235 --> 00:47:04,823
3963And so you had the musicians meeting
3964the people who made the visual images
3965
3966863
396700:47:04,906 --> 00:47:10,829
3968and the people who created
3969the visual imagery able to be there,
3970
3971864
397200:47:10,912 --> 00:47:15,291
3973while they handed
3974this project off to the musicians,
3975
3976865
397700:47:15,375 --> 00:47:16,835
3978and they got to be in the room.
3979
3980866
398100:47:16,918 --> 00:47:19,796
3982And the orchestra played
3983the entire score
3984
3985867
398600:47:19,879 --> 00:47:23,258
3987with only short enough
3988breaks to change reels,
3989
3990868
399100:47:23,341 --> 00:47:24,634
3992and they had been rehearsing it.
3993
3994869
399500:47:24,718 --> 00:47:28,972
3996And so we were seeing a live production
3997of the score of The Lion King there,
3998
3999870
400000:47:29,055 --> 00:47:30,974
4001and it was incredibly moving.
4002
4003871
400400:47:31,057 --> 00:47:34,644
4005It's moving anyway,
4006but being in the room,
4007
4008872
400900:47:34,769 --> 00:47:37,147
4010where the air's moving around
4011and the performers are there,
4012
4013873
401400:47:37,230 --> 00:47:41,317
4015and you're seeing them
4016actually play their instruments,
4017
4018874
401900:47:41,401 --> 00:47:45,488
4020and it's just an experience
4021I'll never forget.
4022
4023875
402400:47:46,031 --> 00:47:49,117
4025And we were all very grateful
4026to Hans Zimmer
4027
4028876
402900:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,454
4030for having the insight to create that,
4031
4032877
403300:47:52,537 --> 00:47:55,415
4034and I think it's reflected in...
4035
4036878
403700:47:55,498 --> 00:47:58,668
4038You could feel it,
4039as you hear his recordings here,
4040
4041879
404200:47:58,752 --> 00:48:04,090
4043how much he cared and how hard
4044the musicians worked to rehearse,
4045
4046880
404700:48:04,674 --> 00:48:10,013
4048and the energy and the heart that's
4049in all of these musical performances.
4050
4051881
405200:48:22,025 --> 00:48:24,444
4053Again, another theme.
4054What's so wonderful about this score
4055
4056882
405700:48:24,527 --> 00:48:28,448
4058is that here you have the theme played
4059
4060883
406100:48:28,531 --> 00:48:31,701
4062in such a lonely, sad way
4063with the flute,
4064
4065884
406600:48:31,785 --> 00:48:35,121
4067but when played with the full orchestra,
4068could feel extremely triumphant,
4069
4070885
407100:48:35,205 --> 00:48:38,333
4072and each of the themes
4073is really inspired,
4074
4075886
407600:48:38,416 --> 00:48:42,003
4077and then the choirs
4078that come in and support it,
4079
4080887
408100:48:42,087 --> 00:48:44,756
4082and all of the voices, just so strong.
4083
4084888
408500:48:44,839 --> 00:48:48,635
4086We have both American choirs
4087and African choirs.
4088
4089889
409000:48:48,718 --> 00:48:54,682
4091Lebo M recorded a lot of the choirs,
4092both in South Africa and also here.
4093
4094890
409500:48:55,058 --> 00:49:00,605
4096And Lebo was also just
4097a wonderful person to collaborate with,
4098
4099891
410000:49:02,273 --> 00:49:06,236
4101again giving insight into the story,
4102what the words meant,
4103
4104892
410500:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,822
4106what it was like
4107when they made the original.
4108
4109893
411000:49:08,905 --> 00:49:12,867
4111It was around the time that Mandela...
4112
4113894
411400:49:12,951 --> 00:49:14,869
4115There was a lot going on
4116in South Africa.
4117
4118895
411900:49:14,953 --> 00:49:17,497
4120Mandela was freed.
4121There was a tremendous sense of hope.
4122
4123896
412400:49:17,580 --> 00:49:19,541
4125And a lot of the music,
4126
4127897
412800:49:19,624 --> 00:49:21,626
4129a lot of the energy of the music
4130of the original Lion King,
4131
4132898
413300:49:21,709 --> 00:49:24,921
4134as it was explained to me,
4135was really an expression of a time
4136
4137899
413800:49:25,004 --> 00:49:30,301
4139of positive transformation
4140in that country.
4141
4142900
414300:49:31,636 --> 00:49:34,139
4144And it was an expression of that.
4145
4146901
414700:49:34,222 --> 00:49:37,559
4148And I think that the original film
4149really captured
4150
4151902
415200:49:37,642 --> 00:49:41,396
4153an intersection
4154of so many different factors
4155
4156903
415700:49:41,479 --> 00:49:45,525
4158that contributed to this thing
4159that really feels timeless,
4160
4161904
416200:49:45,608 --> 00:49:50,822
4163and the music and the introduction
4164to those voices
4165
4166905
416700:49:51,781 --> 00:49:53,825
4168was a big part of it.
4169
4170906
417100:49:53,908 --> 00:49:56,703
4172The artistry of the filmmakers
4173and the timeless story,
4174
4175907
417600:49:56,786 --> 00:49:59,873
4177the way that the story came together
4178that was a reflection
4179
4180908
418100:49:59,956 --> 00:50:02,625
4182of not just Lion King,
4183but of Hamlet, and stories,
4184
4185909
418600:50:02,709 --> 00:50:05,211
4187even myths that came before.
4188
4189910
419000:50:05,295 --> 00:50:06,838
4191It really hit it right.
4192
4193911
419400:50:06,921 --> 00:50:11,384
4195And I think that as much as
4196it's part of a Disney tradition,
4197
4198912
419900:50:11,467 --> 00:50:14,512
4200it's also something
4201that feels like it's...
4202
4203913
420400:50:15,263 --> 00:50:21,060
4205That was part of something
4206tapped into something even larger.
4207
4208914
420900:50:22,103 --> 00:50:23,855
4210And that's part
4211of why it holds up so well.
4212
4213915
421400:50:23,938 --> 00:50:29,152
4215And of course, the stage production
4216has been drawing audiences
4217
4218916
421900:50:29,235 --> 00:50:32,363
4220and packing houses for decades now.
4221
4222917
422300:50:32,739 --> 00:50:37,035
4224And that's also a huge legacy.
4225
4226918
422700:50:37,869 --> 00:50:41,247
4228And what's interesting is
4229the stage show is,
4230
4231919
423200:50:41,331 --> 00:50:43,791
4233although it's Lion King,
4234it's quite different.
4235
4236920
423700:50:43,875 --> 00:50:46,377
4238It's quite different from the film,
4239
4240921
424100:50:47,545 --> 00:50:48,963
4242and that's part of what gave us
4243confidence that we might be able
4244
4245922
424600:50:49,047 --> 00:50:54,135
4247to do something here, because the stage
4248production is still seen as Lion King,
4249
4250923
425100:50:54,219 --> 00:50:56,137
4252and we felt that if we could
4253create something that felt like
4254
4255924
425600:50:56,221 --> 00:50:58,556
4257it was yet another medium,
4258
4259925
426000:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,310
4261like a live-action documentary
4262take on the film.
4263
4264926
426500:51:04,062 --> 00:51:06,356
4266If we could emulate that feel,
4267
4268927
426900:51:06,439 --> 00:51:11,653
4270it would feel like yet another
4271interpretation of the story.
4272
4273928
427400:51:21,329 --> 00:51:26,417
4275So, you see a simple shot like that
4276is one where you have the technical,
4277
4278929
427900:51:26,501 --> 00:51:29,295
4280like, all of the beautiful sand
4281simulations, of blowing in the wind.
4282
4283930
428400:51:29,379 --> 00:51:32,757
4285You have the flute player.
4286You have Hans' score.
4287
4288931
428900:51:33,341 --> 00:51:37,053
4290You have Andy Jones' animation.
4291
4292932
429300:51:38,805 --> 00:51:45,144
4294Hans' interpretation of that cue.
4295
4296933
429700:51:47,981 --> 00:51:52,860
4298And all of it just works together
4299to make you feel something,
4300
4301934
430200:51:52,944 --> 00:51:56,823
4303which is I think what people
4304enjoy the most about Lion King,
4305
4306935
430700:51:56,906 --> 00:52:00,702
4308is how much of an emotional ride
4309they go on here.
4310
4311936
431200:52:01,744 --> 00:52:04,122
4313And of course, here,
4314there's our Lawrence of Arabia shot.
4315
4316937
431700:52:04,205 --> 00:52:05,748
4318We looked at that.
4319
4320938
432100:52:08,835 --> 00:52:11,087
4322That reflective sand.
4323
4324939
432500:52:13,548 --> 00:52:14,549
4326I really like this sequence.
4327
4328940
432900:52:14,632 --> 00:52:17,176
4330And this, whether
4331it's in the movie or the play,
4332
4333941
433400:52:18,678 --> 00:52:21,306
4335you're so ready
4336for these guys to show up.
4337
4338942
433900:52:23,641 --> 00:52:27,186
4340You got Billy Eichner,
4341and you got Seth Rogen here.
4342
4343943
434400:52:28,688 --> 00:52:30,857
4345Two of the hardest working people
4346in show business.
4347
4348944
434900:52:32,066 --> 00:52:33,568
4350Although we recorded them live,
4351
4352945
435300:52:33,651 --> 00:52:38,906
4354we recorded them
4355in the recording studio with Donald.
4356
4357946
435800:52:39,782 --> 00:52:44,454
4359But they kept coming in, because I knew
4360people who are comedy writers,
4361
4362947
436300:52:44,537 --> 00:52:48,124
4364they don't like
4365to put their pencils down.
4366
4367948
436800:52:48,207 --> 00:52:50,251
4369(LAUGHS) They keep going.
4370
4371949
437200:52:50,335 --> 00:52:53,880
4373And my thing was like, "I'll work on it
4374as much as you want to,"
4375
4376950
437700:52:53,963 --> 00:52:57,008
4378and so they would record.
4379We would edit it down.
4380
4381951
438200:52:57,091 --> 00:52:59,844
4383We would lay it up against pencils.
4384They'd come back in.
4385
4386952
438700:52:59,927 --> 00:53:01,763
4388They'd watch it.
4389
4390953
439100:53:01,846 --> 00:53:03,431
4392Billy, especially,
4393would be like, "I think I could...
4394
4395954
439600:53:03,514 --> 00:53:04,974
4397"Let me take another crack at this."
4398
4399955
440000:53:05,058 --> 00:53:09,437
4401And so I held off as much as I could
4402into the animation of the mouths.
4403
4404956
440500:53:10,063 --> 00:53:14,400
4406And eventually, you know,
4407we finalized everything,
4408
4409957
441000:53:14,484 --> 00:53:18,571
4411but we kept trying to beat what we had.
4412
4413958
441400:53:19,906 --> 00:53:21,866
4415And that's what's great about
4416hiring people who could improvise,
4417
4418959
441900:53:21,949 --> 00:53:25,870
4420who could write and perform and sing,
4421in this case, especially Billy.
4422
4423960
442400:53:25,953 --> 00:53:30,917
4425Everybody was very impressed
4426with what a beautiful voice Billy has.
4427
4428961
442900:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,588
4430You know, it's an
4431important part of the movie,
4432
4433962
443400:53:35,671 --> 00:53:38,674
4435and you got big shoes to fill
4436with these characters,
4437
4438963
443900:53:38,758 --> 00:53:42,178
4440and so I was really proud
4441how they made it their own.
4442
4443964
444400:53:42,261 --> 00:53:45,932
4445They didn't try to just emulate
4446what had been done before.
4447
4448965
444900:53:46,015 --> 00:53:49,811
4450As good as it was,
4451they found their own interpretation.
4452
4453966
445400:53:49,894 --> 00:53:53,731
4455That also worked with a less
4456cartoony, physical performance,
4457
4458967
445900:53:53,815 --> 00:53:55,149
4460'cause these are two characters
4461
4462968
446300:53:55,233 --> 00:53:58,778
4464where the animators took a lot
4465of liberty with their performances.
4466
4467969
446800:54:02,198 --> 00:54:07,537
4469So, I just find these guys really funny.
4470
4471970
447200:54:07,995 --> 00:54:09,288
4473But you know
4474what you can change?
4475
4476971
447700:54:10,289 --> 00:54:12,333
4478The future.
4479That's our specialty.
4480
4481972
448200:54:12,500 --> 00:54:13,835
4483Kind of our thing.
4484
4485973
448600:54:16,087 --> 00:54:19,048
4487FAVREAU: And so the look of the film
4488changes a little bit here.
4489
4490974
449100:54:19,132 --> 00:54:22,844
4492We get that nice, sunny look
4493and blue sky.
4494
4495975
449600:54:24,053 --> 00:54:25,555
4497And I love all the little...
4498
4499976
450000:54:25,638 --> 00:54:30,977
4501We knew that once
4502we had the performances down vocally...
4503
4504977
450500:54:31,644 --> 00:54:33,438
4506Then I worked with Andy Jones,
4507
4508978
450900:54:33,521 --> 00:54:36,691
4510trying to figure out how could
4511we embellish all the little things
4512
4513979
451400:54:36,774 --> 00:54:39,944
4515without distracting from their dialogue.
4516
4517980
451800:54:40,486 --> 00:54:43,781
4519And so you see it a lot with Timon.
4520
4521981
452200:54:43,865 --> 00:54:49,287
4523You see him chasing that little bug
4524around or picking lice out of his hair.
4525
4526982
452700:54:49,370 --> 00:54:54,792
4528All these little things really
4529add to the performance, I think.
4530
4531983
453200:54:55,668 --> 00:54:58,004
4533And it's one of those
4534situations where...
4535
4536984
453700:54:58,087 --> 00:54:59,964
4538Like this little thing here. (LAUGHING)
4539
4540985
454100:55:00,882 --> 00:55:02,467
4542I like the little guy
4543bossing the big guy around.
4544
4545986
454600:55:03,801 --> 00:55:06,429
4547And he tries to be pushy,
4548but he's too little.
4549
4550987
455100:55:07,847 --> 00:55:10,475
4552And also 'cause he's so little,
4553it gives you permission
4554
4555988
455600:55:10,558 --> 00:55:13,895
4557for him to be a little more aggressive
4558and get away with something
4559
4560989
456100:55:13,978 --> 00:55:16,814
4562that would bump a little more
4563
4564990
456500:55:18,941 --> 00:55:20,818
4566if the bigger character was doing it.
4567
4568991
456900:55:20,902 --> 00:55:23,738
4570(CHUCKLES) But this little guy,
4571he's all tough.
4572
4573992
457400:55:23,821 --> 00:55:25,531
4575He's a little powerhouse.
4576
4577993
457800:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,288
4579And there's the look,
4580and this was inspired by James Chinlund,
4581
4582994
458300:55:32,663 --> 00:55:34,874
4584felt that the cloud forests were...
4585
4586995
458700:55:35,583 --> 00:55:39,712
4588He researched those and took a lot
4589of photography on safari,
4590
4591996
459200:55:39,795 --> 00:55:43,007
4593and we pulled a lot
4594of photographic reference back in,
4595
4596997
459700:55:43,090 --> 00:55:47,512
4598because this look felt like it fit
4599with what's in the old movie,
4600
4601998
460200:55:47,595 --> 00:55:52,600
4603but didn't break the reality
4604of trying to keep it naturalistic.
4605
4606999
460700:55:52,683 --> 00:55:54,769
4608This next little sequence
4609I'm very proud of.
4610
46111000
461200:55:55,686 --> 00:55:58,064
4613Here's where we could depart
4614in a way that I thought was fun,
4615
46161001
461700:55:58,147 --> 00:56:01,526
4618'cause I think they used the regular
4619Pumbaa for the flashback.
4620
46211002
462200:56:02,610 --> 00:56:05,404
4623We found a little...
4624
46251003
462600:56:05,488 --> 00:56:06,697
4627On the Internet,
4628there's a little picture
4629
46301004
463100:56:06,781 --> 00:56:08,533
4632of a little baby warthog. (CHUCKLES)
4633
46341005
463500:56:08,616 --> 00:56:10,284
4636It was the cutest thing,
4637and I brought it in, and I was like,
4638
46391006
464000:56:10,368 --> 00:56:12,286
4641"We gotta have this in the movie."
4642
46431007
464400:56:13,329 --> 00:56:16,374
4645And I love a good flatulence joke.
4646
46471008
464800:56:20,419 --> 00:56:21,504
4649I liked the little guy.
4650
46511009
465200:56:21,587 --> 00:56:24,674
4653I liked him so much we brought him back
4654at the end for the curtain call.
4655
46561010
465700:56:25,675 --> 00:56:27,426
4658I like how they all run away.
4659He's ashamed.
4660
46611011
466200:56:27,510 --> 00:56:29,554
4663And that was based on some drawings
4664that Dave Lowery,
4665
46661012
466700:56:29,637 --> 00:56:31,597
4668our head of story, did.
4669
46701013
467100:56:31,681 --> 00:56:35,601
4672He started little drawings with a little
4673butterfly falling into the water.
4674
46751014
467600:56:37,395 --> 00:56:38,813
4677And we had him sing "farted."
4678
46791015
468000:56:38,896 --> 00:56:40,314
4681I thought that's one thing we could...
4682
46831016
468400:56:40,398 --> 00:56:44,110
46852019, we could say "farted."
4686
46871017
468800:56:45,111 --> 00:56:47,321
4689Kids are ready. They're mature now.
4690
46911018
469200:56:47,405 --> 00:56:49,407
4693With the Internet,
4694they know what farting is.
4695
46961019
469700:56:51,409 --> 00:56:55,371
4698And here's a really nice... This took
4699a long time to get this reveal right,
4700
47011020
470200:56:55,454 --> 00:56:58,583
4703'cause you had to catch them
4704singing the end of this verse,
4705
47061021
470700:56:59,125 --> 00:57:01,502
4708and then reverse and see it.
4709
47101022
471100:57:01,586 --> 00:57:03,087
4712I love the way the mist flies.
4713
47141023
471500:57:03,170 --> 00:57:07,216
4716That's a really nice water sim there,
4717from the waterfall in the foreground.
4718
47191024
472000:57:10,511 --> 00:57:15,224
4721And that little Garden of Eden,
4722and all these great little characters.
4723
47241025
472500:57:15,308 --> 00:57:16,767
4726There's Amy Sedaris.
4727
47281026
472900:57:17,518 --> 00:57:20,646
4730That's Chance,
4731Chance the Rapper in there.
4732
47331027
473400:57:21,272 --> 00:57:22,356
4735- (GASPS)
4736- TIMON: Here we go.
4737
47381028
473900:57:22,732 --> 00:57:25,318
4740Uh, no, no, no, kid,
4741we're fresh out of zebra.
4742
47431029
474400:57:25,484 --> 00:57:26,652
4745Any antelope?
4746
47471030
474800:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,655
4749FAVREAU: Yeah, a lot of these
4750are Chance, actually. (LAUGHS)
4751
47521031
475300:57:29,739 --> 00:57:32,199
4754He's playing about 50 different animals.
4755
47561032
475700:57:32,700 --> 00:57:34,952
4758And there's Josh.
4759(CHUCKLES) That's JD's brother,
4760
47611033
476200:57:35,036 --> 00:57:37,705
4763who was really good
4764as the elephant shrew.
4765
47661034
476700:57:39,874 --> 00:57:43,419
4768This was the last shot that was finished
4769for the film, for trivia fans.
4770
47711035
477200:57:43,502 --> 00:57:46,172
4773And there's the bugs. We never knew
4774what the bugs were gonna be like.
4775
47761036
477700:57:46,255 --> 00:57:50,176
4778Like, we're looking at
4779all the turntables of the bug designs,
4780
47811037
478200:57:50,259 --> 00:57:52,928
4783and we're like,
4784"This could be really disgusting."
4785
47861038
478700:57:54,639 --> 00:57:57,808
4788I like that. "They're local."
4789I think that was an improv line.
4790
47911039
479200:57:59,769 --> 00:58:02,063
4793And we just mixed
4794and matched everything.
4795
47961040
479700:58:03,064 --> 00:58:04,690
4798That's a really good little model.
4799
48001041
480100:58:06,108 --> 00:58:09,737
4802That's great.
4803I like how it's squirming around.
4804
48051042
480600:58:09,820 --> 00:58:12,156
4807It really got it. It captured
4808what was in the original.
4809
48101043
481100:58:12,239 --> 00:58:13,491
4812It's fun. It's gross.
4813
48141044
481500:58:13,574 --> 00:58:15,785
4816It's not too gross
4817where it looks like...
4818
48191045
482000:58:16,744 --> 00:58:19,246
4821Where it looks like, you know,
4822
48231046
482400:58:19,664 --> 00:58:21,165
4825looks like a big
4826
48271047
482800:58:22,083 --> 00:58:23,876
4829thing of maggots.
4830
48311048
483200:58:24,502 --> 00:58:26,295
4833And it's very colorful.
4834
48351049
483600:58:27,213 --> 00:58:30,758
4837And now, well, we had to get this shot.
4838
48391050
484000:58:32,802 --> 00:58:34,053
4841And how do you get it?
4842
48431051
484400:58:34,136 --> 00:58:39,141
4845I mean, look at this silhouette shot
4846with the edge of the moon burning away.
4847
48481052
484900:58:40,267 --> 00:58:42,853
4850And there we go.
4851Oh, now I know I'm okay.
4852
48531053
485400:58:42,937 --> 00:58:45,314
4855Whenever I'm watching a screening,
4856I know when I hear Donald Glover
4857
48581054
485900:58:45,398 --> 00:58:47,942
4860sing this, I know I'm good now,
4861
48621055
486300:58:49,318 --> 00:58:50,945
4864because
4865
48661056
486700:58:51,904 --> 00:58:56,450
4868he's got such a great energy,
4869and the animators really captured it.
4870
48711057
487200:58:58,119 --> 00:59:02,832
4873But I love hearing his voice,
4874and he just is like...
4875
48761058
487700:59:06,502 --> 00:59:09,422
4878After what everybody's been through
4879emotionally in the movie,
4880
48811059
488200:59:09,505 --> 00:59:12,758
4883and then you get to this part,
4884and you hear Donald singing this,
4885
48861060
488700:59:13,175 --> 00:59:17,555
4888and them just all frolicking
4889in the forest together.
4890
48911061
489200:59:22,852 --> 00:59:25,896
4893It's one of my...
4894As a filmmaker,
4895
48961062
489700:59:25,980 --> 00:59:29,024
4898I love when I get
4899to this part of the movie,
4900
49011063
490200:59:29,108 --> 00:59:33,070
4903'cause I know that the energy
4904of the film is changing.
4905
49061064
490700:59:35,656 --> 00:59:40,077
4908And this little improvised
4909walk away is, of course,
4910
49111065
491200:59:40,661 --> 00:59:44,373
4913cut and pasted from whatever
4914dozen times we did that.
4915
49161066
491700:59:45,458 --> 00:59:48,210
4918And now we get back to the drought,
4919
49201067
492100:59:50,296 --> 00:59:53,299
4922echoing the shots
4923from the original sequence.
4924
49251068
492600:59:53,382 --> 00:59:56,469
4927The circle of life, it's like
4928the shadow version of circle of life.
4929
49301069
493100:59:57,428 --> 00:59:58,763
4932When you don't...
4933
49341070
493500:59:59,513 --> 01:00:00,848
4936When you don't
4937
49381071
493901:00:03,017 --> 01:00:04,727
4940participate responsibly.
4941
49421072
494301:00:06,187 --> 01:00:09,732
4944When the king is not in tune with
4945
49461073
494701:00:11,317 --> 01:00:13,736
4948the past and the future.
4949
49501074
495101:00:14,987 --> 01:00:16,614
4952And when they over-hunt the lands.
4953
49541075
495501:00:18,616 --> 01:00:21,577
4956And here's our introduction of Beyoncé.
4957
49581076
495901:00:22,286 --> 01:00:28,375
4960Gave her a nice movie star reveal there,
4961nice turn around and rack.
4962
49631077
496401:00:29,627 --> 01:00:31,170
4965And here's Alfre Woodard.
4966
49671078
496801:00:35,674 --> 01:00:38,928
4969Trouble with the...
4970Even in the original film,
4971
49721079
497301:00:39,011 --> 01:00:41,764
4974the lionesses are designed
4975very similarly.
4976
49771080
497801:00:42,598 --> 01:00:46,310
4979They don't have too many things
4980that distinguish them from one another.
4981
49821081
498301:00:47,228 --> 01:00:50,022
4984And so it's a good thing
4985we have very distinct voices,
4986
49871082
498801:00:50,105 --> 01:00:52,566
4989(LAUGHING) but there's a lot of
4990
49911083
499201:00:52,650 --> 01:00:55,319
4993people saying each other's names
4994when they talk to them
4995
49961084
499701:00:55,986 --> 01:00:57,154
4998to try to help.
4999
50001085
500101:00:57,571 --> 01:00:59,114
5002"Nala." "Yes, Sarabi."
5003
50041086
500501:01:01,158 --> 01:01:03,118
5006People don't do that in real life,
5007
50081087
500901:01:03,869 --> 01:01:06,539
5010but it's one of things where we do.
5011Here's a nice little
5012
50131088
501401:01:08,165 --> 01:01:10,042
5015slo-mo shot.
5016
50171089
501801:01:10,125 --> 01:01:11,752
5019Again, something you would do in a...
5020
50211090
502201:01:11,836 --> 01:01:14,672
5023Documentaries, they rarely go 24 frames.
5024
50251091
502601:01:16,090 --> 01:01:18,133
5027Or, I guess, video it's 30.
5028
50291092
503001:01:21,262 --> 01:01:23,931
5031But they rarely go 100% speed.
5032
50331093
503401:01:24,014 --> 01:01:26,141
5035They usually
5036slow things down a little bit
5037
50381094
503901:01:26,225 --> 01:01:29,270
5040to help create more
5041of an anthropomorphic look.
5042
50431095
504401:01:29,353 --> 01:01:32,940
5045And so, close-ups, if you look
5046closely at documentaries,
5047
50481096
504901:01:33,023 --> 01:01:35,568
5050they're often slowed down a little bit
5051just to give a little bit more
5052
50531097
505401:01:35,651 --> 01:01:38,404
5055of a contemplative look and make it...
5056
50571098
505801:01:38,487 --> 01:01:40,364
5059Their emotions feel a bit more human,
5060
50611099
506201:01:40,447 --> 01:01:42,366
5063and so we snuck that in
5064whenever we could.
5065
50661100
506701:01:42,449 --> 01:01:44,994
5068We slightly did speed changes,
5069
50701101
507101:01:45,077 --> 01:01:47,955
5072again, as you would do
5073in a documentary to help
5074
50751102
507601:01:48,038 --> 01:01:50,749
5077the lions feel a little bit...
5078There's a little more subtext.
5079
50801103
508101:01:53,878 --> 01:01:55,671
5082The king wishes to see you.
5083
50841104
508501:01:57,172 --> 01:01:58,465
5086FAVREAU: So, this is not...
5087
50881105
508901:01:58,549 --> 01:02:00,676
5090I don't think this scene
5091exists in the original.
5092
50931106
509401:02:02,553 --> 01:02:04,471
5095But it's a little bit...
5096We wanted to fill out
5097
50981107
509901:02:04,555 --> 01:02:07,141
5100the characters of Nala and Sarabi more.
5101
51021108
510301:02:07,683 --> 01:02:09,810
5104Actually, there was a bit of a...
5105
51061109
510701:02:09,894 --> 01:02:11,770
5108This was inspired by outtakes
5109
51101110
511101:02:11,854 --> 01:02:14,982
5112from the original film
5113and from what's in the show.
5114
51151111
511601:02:15,065 --> 01:02:18,235
5117But in the show, he's...
5118Scar is interested in Nala,
5119
51201112
512101:02:18,319 --> 01:02:20,195
5122which we didn't want to pursue.
5123
51241113
512501:02:20,279 --> 01:02:23,240
5126But instead felt that
5127him pursuing Sarabi
5128
51291114
513001:02:23,324 --> 01:02:26,452
5131felt like it was connected
5132
51331115
513401:02:26,535 --> 01:02:29,246
5135a bit more to what's going on in Hamlet.
5136
51371116
513801:02:30,039 --> 01:02:32,041
5139Which was often...
5140
51411117
514201:02:32,833 --> 01:02:34,793
5143People draw inspiration...
5144
51451118
514601:02:34,877 --> 01:02:38,380
5147People draw a connection
5148between Lion King and Hamlet
5149
51501119
515101:02:38,464 --> 01:02:40,382
5152for story inspiration.
5153
51541120
515501:02:40,466 --> 01:02:43,469
5156And so as we were looking
5157how to dimensionalize the story more
5158
51591121
516001:02:43,552 --> 01:02:47,932
5161and these characters, the sense
5162that Scar might be seeking out...
5163
51641122
516501:02:49,892 --> 01:02:53,020
5166That he felt jealous of Sarabi,
5167
51681123
516901:02:53,103 --> 01:02:57,816
5170that Sarabi had been
5171Mufasa's queen, and that he's...
5172
51731124
517401:02:59,109 --> 01:03:03,238
5175It added another emotional dimension
5176that was much more specific.
5177
51781125
517901:03:04,114 --> 01:03:07,034
5180And again, Nala escaped, I believe,
5181
51821126
518301:03:07,117 --> 01:03:11,455
5184if I have this right, Nala escaped
5185in the stage production
5186
51871127
518801:03:11,538 --> 01:03:15,167
5189after Scar pursues her.
5190
51911128
519201:03:15,250 --> 01:03:17,711
5193But in this case, we made it Sarabi
5194
51951129
519601:03:17,795 --> 01:03:20,881
5197and it felt a bit more
5198like Hamlet's storyline
5199
52001130
520101:03:21,924 --> 01:03:26,220
5202with his mother and uncle
5203and his father, who had been
5204
52051131
520601:03:28,514 --> 01:03:29,890
5207murdered.
5208
52091132
521001:03:30,766 --> 01:03:33,936
5211So, here we have Nala escapes.
5212
52131133
521401:03:42,236 --> 01:03:45,447
5215And this is really interesting
5216because it's a night shoot.
5217
52181134
521901:03:46,699 --> 01:03:50,536
5220This, by the way, looks particularly
5221good in extended dynamic range,
5222
52231135
522401:03:50,619 --> 01:03:53,622
5225and in 3D.
5226It's a very beautiful movie in 3D.
5227
52281136
522901:03:59,378 --> 01:04:02,756
5230And so this was a sequence where,
5231
52321137
523301:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,636
5234again, there's not a lot of dialogue,
5235so everything's about the animators
5236
52371138
523801:04:08,470 --> 01:04:11,098
5239and about the virtual camera work
5240
52411139
524201:04:11,181 --> 01:04:13,851
5243to get the camera moves just right.
5244So this was a bit more of...
5245
52461140
524701:04:14,685 --> 01:04:16,353
5248This area's sort of like
5249
52501141
525101:04:17,980 --> 01:04:19,273
5252a thriller,
5253
52541142
525501:04:20,274 --> 01:04:21,775
5256the tension.
5257
52581143
525901:04:24,653 --> 01:04:28,115
5260Telling a story through movement
5261of the cameras there, dolly moves.
5262
52631144
526401:04:31,493 --> 01:04:35,873
5265And so this was...
5266Again, the visual storytelling here
5267
52681145
526901:04:35,956 --> 01:04:39,835
5270is more closely akin
5271to what you would have in
5272
52731146
527401:04:41,003 --> 01:04:44,339
5275just figuring out...
5276Working out a scene on the set,
5277
52781147
527901:04:44,423 --> 01:04:48,343
5280using the camera and the actors
5281and telling the story through shots.
5282
52831148
528401:04:49,053 --> 01:04:50,679
5285And this is something that...
5286
52871149
528801:04:52,639 --> 01:04:56,977
5289This creative process really emulated
5290what it felt like to be
5291
52921150
529301:04:57,686 --> 01:04:59,730
5294on a live-action film set.
5295
52961151
529701:04:59,813 --> 01:05:03,442
5298Even though, again, we were looking
5299at pre-animated lions,
5300
53011152
530201:05:04,485 --> 01:05:07,154
5303but the iterative process where we would
5304
53051153
530601:05:08,572 --> 01:05:11,075
5307collaborate, try things, look at it,
5308
53091154
531001:05:12,201 --> 01:05:13,911
5311you know, adjust it.
5312
53131155
531401:05:13,994 --> 01:05:16,872
5315Because no matter
5316how well a movie is scripted
5317
53181156
531901:05:16,955 --> 01:05:18,832
5320or how much shots are planned,
5321
53221157
532301:05:18,916 --> 01:05:21,293
5324sequences like this, where you're
5325trying to tell a story visually,
5326
53271158
532801:05:21,376 --> 01:05:23,921
5329you're kind of feeling your way
5330through it together as a group.
5331
53321159
533301:05:27,424 --> 01:05:30,969
5334And you can only plan so much,
5335and this virtual camera arrangement
5336
53371160
533801:05:31,053 --> 01:05:34,098
5339really allowed for us to have
5340that kind of collaborative conversation,
5341
53421161
534301:05:34,181 --> 01:05:35,682
5344whereas in a traditionally animated film
5345
53461162
534701:05:35,766 --> 01:05:38,143
5348you'd have a director
5349or somebody who's a layout artist
5350
53511163
535201:05:38,227 --> 01:05:40,813
5353who would design
5354all the camera moves ahead of time
5355
53561164
535701:05:40,896 --> 01:05:42,731
5358and then put them all together,
5359
53601165
536101:05:42,815 --> 01:05:45,442
5362and hopefully, they would work and maybe
5363you would go back and adjust them.
5364
53651166
536601:05:46,193 --> 01:05:50,155
5367Here, it felt more like we were
5368
53691167
537001:05:51,156 --> 01:05:54,159
5371playing with a LEGO set,
5372like it feels on a real movie.
5373
53741168
537501:05:54,243 --> 01:05:56,829
5376Everybody's kind of
5377rolling their sleeves up
5378
53791169
538001:05:56,912 --> 01:05:58,831
5381and coming up with ideas
5382and trying things.
5383
53841170
538501:06:01,250 --> 01:06:03,544
5386The difference, of course,
5387was that we would never run out
5388
53891171
539001:06:04,253 --> 01:06:05,671
5391of daylight or night. (LAUGHS)
5392
53931172
539401:06:05,754 --> 01:06:07,798
5395The sun would never come up
5396and end our day.
5397
53981173
539901:06:07,881 --> 01:06:09,675
5400We could always go back
5401and work on it again.
5402
54031174
540401:06:12,970 --> 01:06:14,847
5405And again here, so that we know,
5406
54071175
540801:06:14,930 --> 01:06:17,933
5409(CHUCKLING) Sarabi has to say "Nala"
5410so you know who left.
5411
54121176
541301:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,394
5414I was always concerned about that,
5415
54161177
541701:06:21,228 --> 01:06:22,437
5418that you'd lose track.
5419
54201178
542101:06:23,147 --> 01:06:25,607
5422'Cause I'm the worst when it comes
5423to that stuff when I'm watching a movie.
5424
54251179
542601:06:27,442 --> 01:06:29,653
5427(CHUCKLING) So I tried to make it
5428a little easier for people like me
5429
54301180
543101:06:31,029 --> 01:06:32,781
5432who can't keep track of everything.
5433
54341181
543501:06:34,116 --> 01:06:36,034
5436So this is nice 'cause
5437this should hopefully feel
5438
54391182
544001:06:36,118 --> 01:06:37,744
5441like it's right out of a documentary.
5442
54431183
544401:06:38,453 --> 01:06:41,081
5445And there we go,
5446that long lens photography,
5447
54481184
544901:06:41,874 --> 01:06:43,292
5450and then we break all that tension.
5451
54521185
545301:06:44,918 --> 01:06:46,795
5454Simba! It's you!
5455(SIGHS IN RELIEF)
5456
54571186
545801:06:46,879 --> 01:06:48,255
5459Did you see that?
5460
54611187
546201:06:48,338 --> 01:06:49,715
5463Man, that butterfly
5464was right there!
5465
54661188
546701:06:49,882 --> 01:06:51,008
5468I almost had him.
5469
54701189
547101:06:51,341 --> 01:06:52,634
5472I thought it was a lion.
5473
54741190
547501:06:52,718 --> 01:06:54,052
5476(STAMMERS) You know,
5477the other kind of lion.
5478
54791191
548001:06:54,261 --> 01:06:55,679
5481FAVREAU: Phil LaMarr.
5482
54831192
548401:06:56,763 --> 01:06:58,140
5485Great voice actor.
5486
54871193
548801:06:59,099 --> 01:07:00,475
5489Samurai Jack.
5490
54911194
549201:07:01,935 --> 01:07:03,145
5493Actually,
5494
54951195
549601:07:04,813 --> 01:07:07,608
5497Marvin from Pulp Fiction.
5498
54991196
550001:07:13,864 --> 01:07:17,451
5501(CHUCKLES) Here's the whole
5502circle of life.
5503
55041197
550501:07:17,534 --> 01:07:19,661
5506They came up with this.
5507This is, I think, a lot of this
5508
55091198
551001:07:19,745 --> 01:07:21,622
5511was based on improvisation.
5512
55131199
551401:07:22,539 --> 01:07:24,082
5515"It's not a circle, it's a line.
5516
55171200
551801:07:24,166 --> 01:07:25,542
5519(LAUGHING)
5520
55211201
552201:07:25,626 --> 01:07:27,794
5523"It's not a circle.
5524What are you talking about, a circle?
5525
55261202
552701:07:27,878 --> 01:07:29,504
5528"No circle, it's just a line."
5529
55301203
553101:07:31,924 --> 01:07:34,843
5532So this really... A lot of this
5533came out of, was inspired by stuff
5534
55351204
553601:07:34,927 --> 01:07:38,263
5537when we had a scene written, but they...
5538
55391205
554001:07:40,140 --> 01:07:42,559
5541So some of this was improv,
5542
55431206
554401:07:42,643 --> 01:07:45,229
5545and then we would write it,
5546and then we would go back
5547
55481207
554901:07:46,188 --> 01:07:48,857
5550and do it again, and improv again.
5551
55521208
555301:07:50,943 --> 01:07:54,947
5554And then all the visuals had to be
5555designed by the story department, too.
5556
55571209
555801:07:55,030 --> 01:07:58,700
5559So even though they're talking
5560about these existential issues,
5561
55621210
556301:07:59,576 --> 01:08:03,413
5564you have all the fun, more bugs.
5565
55661211
556701:08:04,331 --> 01:08:07,876
5568'Cause we added more scenes,
5569so we had to kind of...
5570
55711212
557201:08:09,127 --> 01:08:11,755
5573If we added more scenes back,
5574we wanted to expand
5575
55761213
557701:08:11,838 --> 01:08:13,966
5578on the storyline of what's happening
5579back in the Pride Lands,
5580
55811214
558201:08:14,049 --> 01:08:16,093
5583then we had to add more stuff here, too.
5584
55851215
558601:08:16,385 --> 01:08:17,844
5587Let me simplify this for you.
5588
55891216
559001:08:18,011 --> 01:08:19,721
5591- Life is meaningless.
5592- PUMBAA: Yes.
5593
55941217
559501:08:19,888 --> 01:08:21,723
5596That's why you just gotta
5597look out for yourself.
5598
55991218
560001:08:21,890 --> 01:08:23,267
5601That's why you do you, Simba.
5602
56031219
560401:08:23,642 --> 01:08:27,229
5605FAVREAU: So, this is really kind of
5606a downbeat to the scene that follows,
5607
56081220
560901:08:27,312 --> 01:08:29,731
5610which, I think, is from the original.
5611
56121221
561301:08:29,815 --> 01:08:32,109
5614For sure, it's from the original
5615'cause they...
5616
56171222
561801:08:32,192 --> 01:08:33,860
5619I think you cut to them
5620
56211223
562201:08:34,945 --> 01:08:36,613
5623after they've eaten all the bugs.
5624
56251224
562601:08:37,656 --> 01:08:40,659
5627And they're looking up at the stars
5628and talking about
5629
56301225
563101:08:41,868 --> 01:08:44,955
5632the balls of burning gas. That was
5633definitely from the original production.
5634
56351226
563601:08:46,373 --> 01:08:50,419
5637So, again, having really talented
5638performers who could do...
5639
56401227
564101:08:51,044 --> 01:08:54,673
5642Who could make it funny
5643but also getting into some, you know...
5644
56451228
564601:08:55,465 --> 01:08:58,969
5647Kind of what the theme of the movie is.
5648Like, is it about...
5649
56501229
565101:09:00,053 --> 01:09:02,306
5652Is it that you shouldn't worry?
5653
56541230
565501:09:02,389 --> 01:09:03,765
5656You know, sometimes it is.
5657
56581231
565901:09:03,849 --> 01:09:05,809
5660But sometimes,
5661you could take that too far.
5662
56631232
566401:09:06,727 --> 01:09:10,063
5665And the idea that Nala shows up
5666and says, "Hey, we need you.
5667
56681233
566901:09:11,189 --> 01:09:13,317
5670"You're more powerful than you think.
5671
56721234
567301:09:14,234 --> 01:09:16,653
5674"We need you to be responsible.
5675
56761235
567701:09:17,446 --> 01:09:18,989
5678"The rest of us need you."
5679
56801236
568101:09:20,699 --> 01:09:23,410
5682And so it's sort of that balancing act,
5683
56841237
568501:09:23,493 --> 01:09:26,830
5686where sometimes in life,
5687things are too heavy.
5688
56891238
569001:09:26,913 --> 01:09:30,667
5691And you gotta... You need people
5692who can take your mind off of it,
5693
56941239
569501:09:30,751 --> 01:09:33,045
5696but after a while,
5697you gotta get back in it.
5698
56991240
570001:09:33,795 --> 01:09:35,213
5701You can't check out.
5702
57031241
570401:09:36,506 --> 01:09:38,008
5705We need you out here.
5706
57071242
570801:09:40,802 --> 01:09:43,305
5709And so, right here,
5710this is one of those memorable moments
5711
57121243
571301:09:43,388 --> 01:09:45,682
5714where we kind of
5715stuck to what was there.
5716
57171244
571801:09:47,184 --> 01:09:49,519
5719It's interpreted by the performers,
5720
57211245
572201:09:49,603 --> 01:09:52,439
5723and there's sort of a naturalism
5724and casualness to it
5725
57261246
572701:09:52,522 --> 01:09:54,733
5728and there might be a little bit
5729of improv or rewrites here and there,
5730
57311247
573201:09:54,816 --> 01:09:56,693
5733but it's essentially the same old scene.
5734
57351248
573601:09:57,611 --> 01:10:00,280
5737'Cause it's so important thematically,
5738he's remembering when the dad said,
5739
57401249
574101:10:00,364 --> 01:10:02,616
5742"Hey, the kings are up there
5743looking down on you."
5744
57451250
574601:10:04,576 --> 01:10:06,453
5747And, you know, he's...
5748
57491251
575001:10:08,580 --> 01:10:10,374
5751They're making fun of him because
5752
57531252
575401:10:12,542 --> 01:10:16,004
5755it doesn't logically make sense,
5756but in his heart he does feel that.
5757
57581253
575901:10:17,172 --> 01:10:22,260
5760And so for the theme of the film,
5761this is such an important scene.
5762
57631254
576401:10:24,846 --> 01:10:26,264
5765That it isn't all meaningless,
5766
57671255
576801:10:26,348 --> 01:10:29,518
5769and that there is...
5770There is something bigger going on.
5771
57721256
577301:10:29,601 --> 01:10:31,520
5774There's a circle of life that he has,
5775
57761257
577701:10:31,603 --> 01:10:34,356
5778if he wants to be king,
5779he has to protect and participate in.
5780
57811258
578201:10:36,274 --> 01:10:37,818
5783But right now he's sort of...
5784
57851259
578601:10:37,901 --> 01:10:40,278
5787Something in him is telling him
5788that there's more to this
5789
57901260
579101:10:41,071 --> 01:10:43,198
5792and his father's words, you know,
5793
57941261
579501:10:43,281 --> 01:10:45,951
5796are there deep down, and they come out.
5797
57981262
579901:10:47,202 --> 01:10:48,620
5800(CHUCKLES) And I like
5801this little scene here.
5802
58031263
580401:10:48,703 --> 01:10:49,913
5805This is sort of improvised,
5806
58071264
580801:10:49,996 --> 01:10:52,332
5809but I like that it shows that
5810they really care about him,
5811
58121265
581301:10:52,416 --> 01:10:54,042
5814that they feel bad
5815about laughing at him.
5816
58171266
581801:10:54,126 --> 01:10:56,670
5819In the old movie they just laugh at him.
5820Here, they actually feel bad.
5821
58221267
582301:10:59,172 --> 01:11:00,632
5824Shows that they're good friends.
5825
58261268
582701:11:01,633 --> 01:11:03,343
5828And in this sequence here...
5829
58301269
583101:11:03,427 --> 01:11:06,513
5832So in the old movie, it was like
5833there was a little bit of wisp
5834
58351270
583601:11:07,597 --> 01:11:10,934
5837of something that came
5838off of him and landed,
5839
58401271
584101:11:11,017 --> 01:11:12,727
5842and I think Rafiki smells it.
5843
58441272
584501:11:14,354 --> 01:11:18,567
5846And this was an opportunity to...
5847'Cause it wouldn't work as it was.
5848
58491273
585001:11:19,401 --> 01:11:22,446
5851And so the idea came
5852of maybe we could have something
5853
58541274
585501:11:22,529 --> 01:11:26,074
5856that really leans into that kind of
5857documentary-style exploration.
5858
58591275
586001:11:26,700 --> 01:11:28,869
5861But also re-enforces
5862that the circle of life
5863
58641276
586501:11:28,952 --> 01:11:30,579
5866actually works in a way that
5867
58681277
586901:11:32,956 --> 01:11:35,709
5870where there's some forces
5871that are moving, that are...
5872
58731278
587401:11:35,792 --> 01:11:38,753
5875That there's some hand
5876of some divine spirit that's...
5877
58781279
587901:11:41,089 --> 01:11:43,508
5880That helps the circle of life continue.
5881
58821280
588301:11:44,801 --> 01:11:47,888
5884And the idea that all these
5885little creatures and the wind
5886
58871281
588801:11:48,388 --> 01:11:50,223
5889and the birds and the insects,
5890
58911282
589201:11:51,892 --> 01:11:53,185
5893and all of it.
5894
58951283
589601:11:54,936 --> 01:11:59,191
5897So, it's not just blowing in the wind,
5898but there's some chain...
5899
59001284
590101:12:01,443 --> 01:12:04,446
5902Some, like, bucket brigade
5903
59041285
590501:12:05,489 --> 01:12:09,201
5906of all the citizens
5907
59081286
590901:12:11,244 --> 01:12:15,332
5910of the circle of life
5911are somehow magically getting there.
5912
59131287
591401:12:17,209 --> 01:12:19,294
5915And just to be able...
5916We didn't even know if this would work,
5917
59181288
591901:12:19,377 --> 01:12:21,505
5920if you'd be able to follow this
5921or people would understand it.
5922
59231289
592401:12:21,588 --> 01:12:23,256
5925It's not from the old film.
5926
59271290
592801:12:24,883 --> 01:12:26,676
5929But we drew it and we tried it,
5930
59311291
593201:12:27,260 --> 01:12:29,429
5933and then the giraffe eats it.
5934
59351292
593601:12:31,473 --> 01:12:33,600
5937And you think it's over.
5938
59391293
594001:12:34,935 --> 01:12:37,103
5941But you can't stop
5942the circle of life that easy.
5943
59441294
594501:12:40,815 --> 01:12:44,194
5946Here... I think this was...
5947
59481295
594901:12:44,277 --> 01:12:46,446
5950There's some great documentary stuff
5951of dung beetles.
5952
59531296
595401:12:46,530 --> 01:12:49,533
5955I think Microcosmos, I think that
5956was one of the films that had it.
5957
59581297
595901:12:50,784 --> 01:12:53,912
5960But could we visually, actually,
5961make you see that in there
5962
59631298
596401:12:53,995 --> 01:12:56,957
5965and connect visually
5966that that's the same fur?
5967
59681299
596901:13:04,297 --> 01:13:07,676
5970And we knew if it didn't work,
5971we could always just cut it down
5972
59731300
597401:13:07,759 --> 01:13:10,804
5975and make it that the fur flies,
5976and then ends up
5977
59781301
597901:13:10,887 --> 01:13:13,807
5980at Rafiki's tree, and it would be
5981similar to what they had,
5982
59831302
598401:13:14,766 --> 01:13:18,061
5985but we really wanted to try
5986to make this work,
5987
59881303
598901:13:18,144 --> 01:13:22,107
5990and it's one of the moments
5991I really enjoy the most.
5992
59931304
599401:13:22,732 --> 01:13:25,777
5995And I like when we showed
5996the movie to Elton John, he...
5997
59981305
599901:13:25,860 --> 01:13:28,363
6000Of course, I'm a life-long fan.
6001
60021306
600301:13:29,155 --> 01:13:31,199
6004And that he picked this sequence out
6005
60061307
600701:13:32,158 --> 01:13:33,910
6008after he'd seen the film.
6009
60101308
601101:13:33,994 --> 01:13:36,079
6012Of all the things that he's worked on
6013in it and everything,
6014
60151309
601601:13:36,162 --> 01:13:38,081
6017for him to pick this out and say
6018
60191310
602001:13:38,164 --> 01:13:40,458
6021that he really connected with it
6022
60231311
602401:13:41,167 --> 01:13:43,962
6025made me very proud.
6026That's when we knew we pulled it off.
6027
60281312
602901:13:44,045 --> 01:13:46,464
6030'Cause here was somebody who didn't know
6031that we were planning this
6032
60331313
603401:13:46,548 --> 01:13:48,842
6035and watched it in the context
6036of the film and felt that
6037
60381314
603901:13:49,801 --> 01:13:51,636
6040it fit in with what he had...
6041
60421315
604301:13:53,346 --> 01:13:57,100
6044What they had created 25 years ago,
6045
60461316
604701:13:57,183 --> 01:13:59,352
6048that he felt that it fit
6049
60501317
605101:14:00,437 --> 01:14:02,772
6052into the story that he was
6053such a big part of.
6054
60551318
605601:14:05,025 --> 01:14:06,443
6057And I love
6058
60591319
606001:14:07,193 --> 01:14:11,114
6061just the eyes of that render
6062of how Rafiki looks.
6063
60641320
606501:14:12,991 --> 01:14:16,953
6066And then we're back in the old movie,
6067how the old movie plays it out,
6068
60691321
607001:14:17,037 --> 01:14:18,496
6071and there's the theme.
6072
60731322
607401:14:18,580 --> 01:14:21,499
6075There's the theme, so triumphantly
6076played and the choir singing it.
6077
60781323
607901:14:21,583 --> 01:14:24,252
6080That's the same theme
6081that's played on the flute
6082
60831324
608401:14:24,336 --> 01:14:27,130
6085when Simba is alone,
6086wandering off into the desert.
6087
60881325
608901:14:28,715 --> 01:14:31,843
6090And I love the way that
6091Hans Zimmer is able to
6092
60931326
609401:14:33,470 --> 01:14:36,139
6095pull, make a theme sound triumphant
6096
60971327
609801:14:36,890 --> 01:14:39,392
6099in one circumstance
6100and one instrumentation,
6101
61021328
610301:14:39,476 --> 01:14:42,520
6104and then feel really lonely
6105and alone and isolated.
6106
61071329
610801:14:43,229 --> 01:14:44,773
6109And I love this.
6110
61111330
611201:14:45,815 --> 01:14:49,152
6113I love parrots.
6114That's African grey parrots. Well done.
6115
61161331
611701:14:50,028 --> 01:14:54,574
6118Here was another area we wanted
6119to expand on what was there originally.
6120
61211332
612201:14:55,867 --> 01:14:57,661
6123Which is, I think it's just
6124a bit of a throwaway.
6125
61261333
612701:14:57,744 --> 01:15:00,997
6128And when I saw it on stage
6129and I saw it in the movie,
6130
61311334
613201:15:01,081 --> 01:15:02,207
6133it's kind of like a laugh at first.
6134
61351335
613601:15:02,290 --> 01:15:04,793
6137But then we wanted... It was an area
6138where we could expand out.
6139
61401336
614101:15:05,752 --> 01:15:07,337
6142And we give this to Pharrell.
6143
61441337
614501:15:07,879 --> 01:15:09,673
6146Hans Zimmer brought Pharrell in.
6147
61481338
614901:15:09,756 --> 01:15:11,800
6150It was one of the first things
6151he worked on,
6152
61531339
615401:15:11,883 --> 01:15:15,428
6155and so he developed a track for it
6156and a take on it
6157
61581340
615901:15:15,929 --> 01:15:17,972
6160and all the different animals
6161chiming in.
6162
61631341
616401:15:21,476 --> 01:15:23,353
6165And we had Chance.
6166There's Chance the Rapper.
6167
61681342
616901:15:23,436 --> 01:15:25,397
6170He was there, singing.
6171
61721343
617301:15:26,690 --> 01:15:28,233
6174Little hooks. They put it all together.
6175
61761344
617701:15:28,316 --> 01:15:29,943
6178I don't know how they do it.
6179They're like alchemists,
6180
61811345
618201:15:30,026 --> 01:15:31,277
6183putting it all together.
6184
61851346
618601:15:32,404 --> 01:15:33,780
6187But I love the bopping along
6188
61891347
619001:15:33,863 --> 01:15:37,033
6191and how it's sort of a little bit
6192of a nod to Steamboat Willie.
6193
61941348
619501:15:37,117 --> 01:15:39,869
6196That was the first thing that
6197set Walt Disney's work apart,
6198
61991349
620001:15:40,787 --> 01:15:43,164
6201was how they would coordinate.
6202Look how, even today,
6203
62041350
620501:15:43,832 --> 01:15:47,085
6206when you coordinate picture
6207to the soundtrack,
6208
62091351
621001:15:47,168 --> 01:15:49,129
6211when you lock those together,
6212there's something really
6213
62141352
621501:15:50,714 --> 01:15:52,966
6216fulfilling about it,
6217there's something satisfying.
6218
62191353
622001:15:54,426 --> 01:15:57,804
6221And then just as you get into it,
6222boom, we go right into... (LAUGHING)
6223
62241354
622501:15:57,887 --> 01:16:00,390
6226Now, this hopefully looks like
6227just a straight-up documentary.
6228
62291355
623001:16:00,974 --> 01:16:04,352
6231We looked at all the documentaries.
6232We looked at Apocalypto.
6233
62341356
623501:16:04,436 --> 01:16:06,146
6236I think that's a shot
6237from Apocalypto there.
6238
62391357
624001:16:07,272 --> 01:16:10,150
6241But just all that off-speed stuff,
6242that slo-mo,
6243
62441358
624501:16:10,233 --> 01:16:13,528
6246and of course, just throwing in
6247Seth Rogen screaming, always good.
6248
62491359
625001:16:14,154 --> 01:16:15,697
6251Never hurts.
6252
62531360
625401:16:15,780 --> 01:16:17,824
6255And Billy Eichner screaming, too.
6256
62571361
625801:16:18,199 --> 01:16:19,367
6259Pumbaa?
6260
62611362
626201:16:19,659 --> 01:16:21,745
6263I'm gonna die! (YELLING)
6264
62651363
626601:16:21,911 --> 01:16:23,913
6267FAVREAU: And this we shot
6268with virtual cameras
6269
62701364
627101:16:23,997 --> 01:16:27,959
6272and we picked a path, and then
6273we built an environment around it.
6274
62751365
627601:16:28,042 --> 01:16:30,587
6277Very technical. This was
6278a very challenging sequence
6279
62801366
628101:16:30,670 --> 01:16:32,046
6282and of course, to get all that lighting
6283
62841367
628501:16:32,130 --> 01:16:34,007
6286to look naturalistic
6287but still beautiful.
6288
62891368
629001:16:35,175 --> 01:16:38,303
6291All that dapple in those environments.
6292
62931369
629401:16:38,845 --> 01:16:39,846
6295No!
6296
62971370
629801:16:42,015 --> 01:16:43,892
6299FAVREAU: And this.
6300I think this works really well.
6301
63021371
630301:16:44,976 --> 01:16:47,812
6304And this animation,
6305I think, is fantastic.
6306
63071372
630801:16:48,563 --> 01:16:51,524
6309'Cause this stuff's very hard
6310to do right, to get the physics right
6311
63121373
631301:16:51,608 --> 01:16:53,193
6314'cause your mind, you just know.
6315
63161374
631701:16:53,276 --> 01:16:56,905
6318Your eye will tell you it's wrong,
6319but by having this camera-work
6320
63211375
632201:16:56,988 --> 01:16:59,115
6323and having these foreground elements
6324moving around,
6325
63261376
632701:16:59,783 --> 01:17:03,578
6328all of it work together to make it feel
6329like you're watching real lions.
6330
63311377
633201:17:03,661 --> 01:17:06,456
6333And of course, then we get back
6334to the pinning him down moment
6335
63361378
633701:17:06,539 --> 01:17:08,666
6338like they did when they were little.
6339
63401379
634101:17:09,709 --> 01:17:11,169
6342And here's Simba and Nala reunited,
6343
63441380
634501:17:11,252 --> 01:17:13,880
6346except now,
6347it's Donald Glover and Beyoncé.
6348
63491381
635001:17:13,963 --> 01:17:14,964
6351Nala, what're you doing?
6352Oh, my...
6353
63541382
635501:17:15,048 --> 01:17:16,049
6356NALA: I don't believe it!
6357
63581383
635901:17:16,216 --> 01:17:17,467
6360SIMBA: Look at you!
6361
63621384
636301:17:18,301 --> 01:17:19,511
6364FAVREAU: And then,
6365
63661385
636701:17:20,595 --> 01:17:22,639
6368you let the funny guys do their thing.
6369
63701386
637101:17:24,015 --> 01:17:26,392
6372We wrote them stuff,
6373we pulled stuff in from the old one,
6374
63751387
637601:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,979
6377but they are super funny and so quick.
6378
63791388
638001:17:30,271 --> 01:17:31,314
6381(LAUGHING) What fun!
6382
63831389
638401:17:31,731 --> 01:17:34,526
6385FAVREAU: (LAUGHING) I love...
6386
63871390
638801:17:34,609 --> 01:17:37,153
6389I don't know if people know...
6390I mean, from this they'll know him.
6391
63921391
639301:17:37,987 --> 01:17:39,989
6394I think he'll have a whole new audience,
6395
63961392
639701:17:40,073 --> 01:17:42,659
6398but his kind of persona
6399that he developed
6400
64011393
640201:17:42,742 --> 01:17:43,785
6403from Billy on the Street,
6404
64051394
640601:17:43,868 --> 01:17:48,373
6407which I was a fan of for a long time,
6408makes me laugh,
6409
64101395
641101:17:48,456 --> 01:17:51,876
6412and then to plug him in as this guy,
6413I think it really worked well.
6414
64151396
641601:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,213
6417TIMON: King? Simba?
6418
64191397
642001:17:57,090 --> 01:17:58,299
6421FAVREAU: And I love...
6422
64231398
642401:17:59,592 --> 01:18:01,427
6425In this scene
6426and especially in the scene
6427
64281399
642901:18:01,511 --> 01:18:02,971
6430after Can You Feel the Love Tonight,
6431
64321400
643301:18:03,054 --> 01:18:05,598
6434and this whole run
6435with Beyoncé is like...
6436
64371401
643801:18:06,808 --> 01:18:11,145
6439Really infuses the film
6440with this whole other level.
6441
64421402
644301:18:12,438 --> 01:18:14,858
6444Just the curiosity of people hearing
6445
64461403
644701:18:14,941 --> 01:18:17,777
6448how they're gonna both interpret
6449the song together 'cause everybody...
6450
64511404
645201:18:19,362 --> 01:18:22,282
6453Their voices are so...
6454
64551405
645601:18:24,659 --> 01:18:26,160
6457Everybody loves their music.
6458
64591406
646001:18:28,162 --> 01:18:31,040
6461And to hear this old classic
6462done and interpreted
6463
64641407
646501:18:32,083 --> 01:18:34,419
6466by these talented singers
6467
64681408
646901:18:35,086 --> 01:18:37,672
6470is part of what people
6471love from, like...
6472
64731409
647401:18:37,755 --> 01:18:40,925
6475When you hear somebody...
6476Somebody's gonna do a...
6477
64781410
647901:18:42,510 --> 01:18:45,096
6480Where they're gonna do a revival
6481of a Broadway classic,
6482
64831411
648401:18:45,179 --> 01:18:46,764
6485and then you hear
6486who's gonna be in the cast,
6487
64881412
648901:18:46,848 --> 01:18:49,517
6490and part of it is, "I want to hear
6491how they interpret that role
6492
64931413
649401:18:49,601 --> 01:18:50,768
6495"and those songs."
6496
64971414
649801:18:51,686 --> 01:18:53,938
6499And so that's part of the fun
6500for me of this area.
6501
65021415
650301:18:57,233 --> 01:19:00,403
6504And it's one of the reasons
6505that it feels like, you know...
6506
65071416
650801:19:03,489 --> 01:19:06,451
6509The question is always why...
6510
65111417
651201:19:06,534 --> 01:19:10,705
6513Is there room to do enough
6514that you should do the movie again?
6515
65161418
651701:19:11,456 --> 01:19:15,251
6518Is it time for another version of this?
6519'Cause the old one still is so good.
6520
65211419
652201:19:16,210 --> 01:19:18,963
6523And sequences like this
6524where it feels like
6525
65261420
652701:19:19,047 --> 01:19:21,841
6528we're capturing the spirit of it,
6529but there's a lot of difference.
6530
65311421
653201:19:23,551 --> 01:19:27,096
6533And the imagery from the old film
6534
65351422
653601:19:28,139 --> 01:19:31,142
6537was a very heightened reality.
6538
65391423
654001:19:31,643 --> 01:19:34,979
6541You can't have them splashing
6542and swimming at a swimming hole.
6543
65441424
654501:19:36,064 --> 01:19:38,858
6546And if you look at it shot for shot,
6547it doesn't translate well.
6548
65491425
655001:19:38,942 --> 01:19:41,152
6551But there are a few moments like this
6552
65531426
655401:19:42,111 --> 01:19:43,821
6555we could kind of capture it.
6556
65571427
655801:19:45,073 --> 01:19:46,908
6559Part of what
6560
65611428
656201:19:48,034 --> 01:19:51,204
6563made me confident that we could
6564accomplish this in this way
6565
65661429
656701:19:51,287 --> 01:19:54,332
6568was that a lot of the songs like this,
6569they're not actually singing on screen
6570
65711430
657201:19:55,166 --> 01:19:57,168
6573in the original. It's in the score.
6574
65751431
657601:19:57,877 --> 01:20:00,505
6577And so you're not forced to have
6578the mouths form the phonemes
6579
65801432
658101:20:00,588 --> 01:20:02,882
6582and the shapes to have them
6583singing throughout,
6584
65851433
658601:20:02,966 --> 01:20:07,428
6587so you can go for a much more
6588naturalistic sequence montage.
6589
65901434
659101:20:10,014 --> 01:20:12,892
6592And then we knew we had to get...
6593
65941435
659501:20:14,727 --> 01:20:16,813
6596We had to get the close-up of Nala here.
6597
65981436
659901:20:17,772 --> 01:20:18,982
6600There you go.
6601
66021437
660301:20:22,819 --> 01:20:26,072
6604And MPC really pulled off
6605that waterfall.
6606
66071438
660801:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,199
6609I get scared of waterfalls
6610as a director.
6611
66121439
661301:20:28,282 --> 01:20:30,118
6614Whenever we say, "We're gonna
6615make the waterfall look great,"
6616
66171440
661801:20:30,201 --> 01:20:32,286
6619that's one of those things
6620that takes a lot
6621
66221441
662301:20:33,371 --> 01:20:35,707
6624of artistry and craftsmanship to do.
6625
66261442
662701:20:36,582 --> 01:20:39,335
6628And you never know till the end
6629if it's gonna work out.
6630
66311443
663201:20:40,253 --> 01:20:43,006
6633And so, you know, we've worked together
6634for so many years now.
6635
66361444
663701:20:43,089 --> 01:20:44,674
6638I'm like, "Look,
6639can we really pull this off?"
6640
66411445
664201:20:44,757 --> 01:20:47,427
6643And Adam Valdez was like,
6644"Yeah, I think we can pull it off.
6645
66461446
664701:20:47,510 --> 01:20:48,970
6648"I think you're gonna like it."
6649
66501447
665101:20:49,762 --> 01:20:52,432
6652And that's one of those things
6653where you're looking at
6654
66551448
665601:20:52,515 --> 01:20:55,727
6657a temp effect for two years.
6658And then, finally,
6659
66601449
666101:20:55,810 --> 01:20:57,895
6662something pops up,
6663and you're like, "Okay,
6664
66651450
666601:20:58,396 --> 01:21:00,606
6667"this is pretty good. You were right."
6668
66691451
667001:21:04,652 --> 01:21:07,238
6671This is some of my...
6672I don't know why this little shot
6673
66741452
667501:21:07,321 --> 01:21:09,240
6676is some of my favorite animation
6677in the whole film.
6678
66791453
668001:21:09,323 --> 01:21:12,201
6681Something about Seth's voice
6682and Billy's voice,
6683
66841454
668501:21:12,285 --> 01:21:14,912
6686and then I love how
6687he stretches out. I have pets,
6688
66891455
669001:21:16,914 --> 01:21:18,499
6691and I got a dog that does this,
6692
66931456
669401:21:19,292 --> 01:21:21,294
6695that little...
6696(CHUCKLES) Move his little paw back.
6697
66981457
669901:21:21,377 --> 01:21:23,671
6700I don't know. There's something
6701about that that's fantastic,
6702
67031458
670401:21:23,755 --> 01:21:26,591
6705and those water sims.
6706Look how good those water sims are.
6707
67081459
670901:21:28,092 --> 01:21:29,427
6710That's so good.
6711
67121460
671301:21:30,053 --> 01:21:32,430
6714That sort of slow-moving brook.
6715
67161461
671701:21:32,513 --> 01:21:35,016
6718That's not something that was able
6719to be done that long ago.
6720
67211462
672201:21:35,099 --> 01:21:38,269
6723That's really part of the magic.
6724
67251463
672601:21:39,771 --> 01:21:43,024
6727And this is a great little scene
6728here, man. I love this scene.
6729
67301464
673101:21:43,691 --> 01:21:45,359
6732And I love the message of it.
6733
67341465
673501:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,908
6736If there's one scene that really
6737captures the theme of the film,
6738
67391466
674001:21:52,867 --> 01:21:56,412
6741and to have these two actors
6742perform it like this
6743
67441467
674501:21:56,496 --> 01:21:59,248
6746and bring so much feeling to it,
6747
67481468
674901:21:59,332 --> 01:22:04,170
6750even though it's animals that aren't
6751really giving you a lot visually,
6752
67531469
675401:22:04,253 --> 01:22:06,839
6755as far as meaning and emotion.
6756
67571470
675801:22:07,882 --> 01:22:10,927
6759You know, so it's the camerawork,
6760
67611471
676201:22:11,010 --> 01:22:13,679
6763and it's the writing
6764and it's the performance.
6765
67661472
676701:22:14,806 --> 01:22:15,932
6768NALA: Scar told us that...
6769
67701473
677101:22:16,099 --> 01:22:17,308
6772You wouldn't understand!
6773
67741474
677501:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,143
6776FAVREAU: And he doesn't want to face it.
6777
67781475
677901:22:20,561 --> 01:22:21,562
6780What?
6781
67821476
678301:22:21,729 --> 01:22:23,481
6784It's something
6785I learned out here, okay?
6786
67871477
678801:22:23,648 --> 01:22:25,233
6789You see,
6790sometimes bad things happen,
6791
67921478
679301:22:25,316 --> 01:22:26,984
6794and there's nothing
6795you can do about it.
6796
67971479
679801:22:28,611 --> 01:22:30,780
6799FAVREAU: I like her here. "Why worry?"
6800
68011480
680201:22:30,905 --> 01:22:32,782
6803What happened to you?
6804
68051481
680601:22:32,949 --> 01:22:35,243
6807You're not
6808the Simba I remember.
6809
68101482
681101:22:35,910 --> 01:22:37,578
6812FAVREAU: You know, and now I'm a parent.
6813
68141483
681501:22:37,662 --> 01:22:40,915
6816I have three kids
6817that are almost all grown up.
6818
68191484
682001:22:40,998 --> 01:22:43,876
6821And, you know,
6822as a parent, there's a balance.
6823
68241485
682501:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,670
6826You want to teach them
6827not to worry too much
6828
68291486
683001:22:45,753 --> 01:22:49,298
6831and you want to teach them
6832that you gotta step up sometimes.
6833
68341487
683501:22:51,008 --> 01:22:53,094
6836And, you know, "We need you."
6837
68381488
683901:22:55,304 --> 01:22:58,683
6840And so this is a nice scene
6841that sort of captures the conundrum
6842
68431489
684401:22:58,766 --> 01:23:01,310
6845that we all face, of when do you...
6846
68471490
684801:23:02,937 --> 01:23:05,565
6849When are you not acting 'cause
6850you're scared or 'cause you're lazy?
6851
68521491
685301:23:05,648 --> 01:23:07,608
6854When are you not doing it
6855'cause it's the right thing?
6856
68571492
685801:23:08,151 --> 01:23:11,237
6859That's a very good story,
6860
68611493
686201:23:11,821 --> 01:23:16,200
6863and I say the good story
6864dating back to the original
6865
68661494
686701:23:16,284 --> 01:23:18,244
6868that they really caught something
6869and captured it.
6870
68711495
687201:23:18,327 --> 01:23:20,204
6873And we just really tried to preserve it.
6874
68751496
687601:23:21,873 --> 01:23:23,875
6877And I love that dropping down
6878into the forest,
6879
68801497
688101:23:23,958 --> 01:23:26,294
6882if you're going deep, deep,
6883deep down into
6884
68851498
688601:23:28,171 --> 01:23:29,714
6887your inner workings.
6888
68891499
689001:23:30,673 --> 01:23:33,676
6891And you look at scenes like this,
6892and we really wanted to
6893
68941500
689501:23:33,759 --> 01:23:38,181
6896keep true to the tropes.
6897You know, you think of, like,
6898
68991501
690001:23:39,932 --> 01:23:41,601
6901Empire Strikes Back
6902
69031502
690401:23:43,060 --> 01:23:44,312
6905and Dagobah,
6906
69071503
690801:23:44,770 --> 01:23:48,065
6909you know, Yoda teaching Luke.
6910
69111504
691201:23:48,149 --> 01:23:50,443
6913And here you have Rafiki,
6914
69151505
691601:23:50,526 --> 01:23:55,281
6917John Kani, the great John Kani,
6918South African actor, who...
6919
69201506
692101:23:57,450 --> 01:23:59,785
6922While we were working together,
6923he was in...
6924
69251507
692601:24:01,370 --> 01:24:03,873
6927Black Panther came out
6928as we were working on this,
6929
69301508
693101:24:03,956 --> 01:24:06,542
6932and he's in that and plays...
6933
69341509
693501:24:07,418 --> 01:24:10,922
6936He plays T'Challa's father
6937and just was really good in that, too.
6938
69391510
694001:24:12,548 --> 01:24:15,009
6941So, American audiences
6942have gotten to know John Kani,
6943
69441511
694501:24:15,092 --> 01:24:17,178
6946but he's been a real fixture
6947
69481512
694901:24:22,850 --> 01:24:25,770
6950as a South African actor
6951for a long time.
6952
69531513
695401:24:28,981 --> 01:24:32,151
6955And here we have a mixture of Xhosa,
6956
69571514
695801:24:34,028 --> 01:24:36,322
6959mixing the language with English.
6960
69611515
696201:24:36,781 --> 01:24:38,950
6963He died a long time ago.
6964
69651516
696601:24:39,033 --> 01:24:40,534
6967He's alive!
6968
69691517
697001:24:40,618 --> 01:24:43,079
6971FAVREAU: And so John Kani would...
6972We'd give him what we wrote,
6973
69741518
697501:24:43,162 --> 01:24:45,748
6976and a lot of it was based on
6977what was in the original film.
6978
69791519
698001:24:46,457 --> 01:24:50,378
6981We definitely made him
6982more of a mentor-type figure,
6983
69841520
698501:24:50,461 --> 01:24:52,296
6986and he's comic relief to some extent,
6987
69881521
698901:24:52,380 --> 01:24:56,217
6990but really wanted to give him
6991more of a strong mentor presence.
6992
69931522
699401:24:58,135 --> 01:25:02,932
6995And really good work here,
6996this is one of the later scenes.
6997
69981523
699901:25:03,474 --> 01:25:05,351
7000But getting this camerawork
7001and these environments
7002
70031524
700401:25:05,434 --> 01:25:07,603
7005using the tools that we had,
7006the virtual camera tools,
7007
70081525
700901:25:08,229 --> 01:25:11,190
7010a little bit tricky 'cause those
7011environments aren't really there.
7012
70131526
701401:25:11,274 --> 01:25:12,775
7015They're there on the screen,
7016
70171527
701801:25:12,858 --> 01:25:15,486
7019but they're not there on the stage where
7020we're moving the cameras around.
7021
70221528
702301:25:16,570 --> 01:25:19,240
7024But I think that the balance between
7025
70261529
702701:25:19,323 --> 01:25:23,202
7028Rob and Caleb and Adam and Andy,
7029
70301530
703101:25:24,078 --> 01:25:25,830
7032I think it really feels still
7033
70341531
703501:25:25,913 --> 01:25:28,457
7036like the camera's really moving
7037through a real forest here.
7038
70391532
704001:25:29,500 --> 01:25:31,836
7041And the music, of course,
7042is great, the percussion.
7043
70441533
704501:25:35,881 --> 01:25:37,466
7046And then, boom,
7047
70481534
704901:25:38,426 --> 01:25:39,510
7050it's really cool.
7051
70521535
705301:25:43,264 --> 01:25:44,932
7054And now here is the scene.
7055
70561536
705701:25:45,016 --> 01:25:48,477
7058This is some of the last stuff
7059to come in, and we had artwork,
7060
70611537
706201:25:48,561 --> 01:25:50,146
7063and we had different interpretations.
7064
70651538
706601:25:50,229 --> 01:25:53,024
7067How are we gonna make the father
7068appear in the clouds?
7069
70701539
707101:25:53,107 --> 01:25:54,525
7072We knew we needed it.
7073
70741540
707501:25:56,193 --> 01:25:58,696
7076But these are two sight gags here,
7077
70781541
707901:25:58,779 --> 01:26:02,408
7080one is the reflection changing, which
7081we found that by changing lighting,
7082
70831542
708401:26:02,491 --> 01:26:04,910
7085which is kind of an old trick
7086that they did
7087
70881543
708901:26:06,203 --> 01:26:08,622
7090in the old movies,
7091when something would transform,
7092
70931544
709401:26:08,706 --> 01:26:11,167
7095the old werewolf movies,
7096sometimes would be a light cue.
7097
70981545
709901:26:12,084 --> 01:26:14,086
7100So, allowed us to distinguish between
7101
71021546
710301:26:15,588 --> 01:26:18,632
7104Simba and Mufasa,
7105
71061547
710701:26:20,509 --> 01:26:22,887
7108and actually make it look like
7109a transformation happens.
7110
71111548
711201:26:22,970 --> 01:26:24,847
7113And then, of course,
7114you have James Earl Jones' voice
7115
71161549
711701:26:24,930 --> 01:26:27,016
7118and the music, which gets you
7119most of the way there.
7120
71211550
712201:26:27,933 --> 01:26:29,894
7123But then these cloud sims
7124and the lightning,
7125
71261551
712701:26:29,977 --> 01:26:31,562
7128and how literal would you make it?
7129
71301552
713101:26:31,645 --> 01:26:34,690
7132And how much would you make it
7133like you think you're seeing it?
7134
71351553
713601:26:36,275 --> 01:26:39,362
7137And so there were some early drawings
7138where you have
7139
71401554
714101:26:40,696 --> 01:26:42,782
7142the internal illumination,
7143
71441555
714501:26:42,865 --> 01:26:45,493
7146making out pieces
7147of the eyes and the nose.
7148
71491556
715001:26:45,576 --> 01:26:47,203
7151So, it's kind of there.
7152
71531557
715401:26:49,372 --> 01:26:51,040
7155And it's more there
7156as the scene goes on.
7157
71581558
715901:26:51,248 --> 01:26:54,043
7160MUFASA: You must remember who you are.
7161
71621559
716301:26:54,126 --> 01:26:56,504
7164The one true king.
7165
71661560
716701:26:56,837 --> 01:26:59,090
7168FAVREAU: Again, hopefully capturing
7169the spirit of the original
7170
71711561
717201:26:59,173 --> 01:27:01,384
7173but not pushing it so far
7174
71751562
717601:27:01,467 --> 01:27:04,011
7177'cause when you look at the original
7178trying to draw inspiration,
7179
71801563
718101:27:04,095 --> 01:27:06,222
7182it was really like glowing, you know,
7183
71841564
718501:27:06,305 --> 01:27:09,558
7186a lion sitting up there with
7187beams of light coming out of them.
7188
71891565
719001:27:10,851 --> 01:27:13,062
7191I thought it felt too stylized for us.
7192
71931566
719401:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,319
7195And so I think it was done tastefully.
7196
71971567
719801:27:22,071 --> 01:27:24,281
7199Anytime you're working with...
7200You have animators
7201
72021568
720301:27:24,365 --> 01:27:27,201
7204and people working
7205on simulations like clouds,
7206
72071569
720801:27:27,785 --> 01:27:30,621
7209it's always difficult
7210because you're trying to coordinate
7211
72121570
721301:27:31,414 --> 01:27:34,208
7214groups that work differently
7215to try to tell one story.
7216
72171571
721801:27:35,251 --> 01:27:37,545
7219And I think the lighting
7220and the color of the sky really helps
7221
72221572
722301:27:37,628 --> 01:27:40,297
7224and the dawn breaking
7225and the stars going away.
7226
72271573
722801:27:41,048 --> 01:27:42,883
7229And the clouds dissipating,
7230him feeling alone
7231
72321574
723301:27:42,967 --> 01:27:44,593
7234but yet feeling his father's with him.
7235
72361575
723701:27:45,261 --> 01:27:47,179
7238And of course, what a wonderful message
7239
72401576
724101:27:48,139 --> 01:27:49,432
7242that he lives in you.
7243
72441577
724501:27:50,433 --> 01:27:54,019
7246And that's a song from the show
7247
72481578
724901:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,357
7250and from one of the inspired-by albums
7251from the time.
7252
72531579
725401:27:58,441 --> 01:28:00,484
7255He Lives In You. And in the end credits,
7256
72571580
725801:28:01,444 --> 01:28:04,405
7259Lebo performs He Lives In You
7260as the second end credit song.
7261
72621581
726301:28:09,285 --> 01:28:12,121
7264And here is roaring,
7265and here is the song Spirit,
7266
72671582
726801:28:12,788 --> 01:28:14,290
7269performed by Beyoncé.
7270
72711583
727201:28:14,373 --> 01:28:16,917
7273This is a song
7274that wasn't in the original film.
7275
72761584
727701:28:17,001 --> 01:28:21,088
7278There's Lebo singing,
7279Lebo M bringing in the choir.
7280
72811585
728201:28:25,384 --> 01:28:29,221
7283This is, I think, the only song in
7284the film that wasn't in the original.
7285
72861586
728701:28:32,725 --> 01:28:36,770
7288And it fits over this
7289really beautiful montage,
7290
72911587
729201:28:36,854 --> 01:28:41,233
7293and I think captures
7294the emotion of the moment.
7295
72961588
729701:28:43,068 --> 01:28:44,403
7298It's a little thing,
7299
73001589
730101:28:44,487 --> 01:28:47,364
7302but that simulation of the dust,
7303of the sand flying,
7304
73051590
730601:28:47,448 --> 01:28:50,951
7307that backlit sand is so well done,
7308
73091591
731001:28:51,035 --> 01:28:53,996
7311and it's those little details
7312that we concentrate on
7313
73141592
731501:28:54,079 --> 01:28:57,500
7316that actually contribute
7317to the feeling of the movie.
7318
73191593
732001:28:57,583 --> 01:28:59,543
7321It's those little details.
7322
73231594
732401:29:01,045 --> 01:29:04,256
7325And of course, you lay the music
7326over it and it brings it all to life.
7327
73281595
732901:29:07,718 --> 01:29:10,179
7330And you think of classics
7331like The Right Stuff
7332
73331596
733401:29:10,554 --> 01:29:13,599
7335and Black Stallion
7336that Caleb Deschanel lit.
7337
73381597
733901:29:13,682 --> 01:29:18,270
7340You see that aesthetic.
7341
73421598
734301:29:18,354 --> 01:29:20,648
7344It's so interesting watching him
7345carry that aesthetic
7346
73471599
734801:29:20,731 --> 01:29:24,276
7349over into a situation where he could
7350move the sun wherever he wants it,
7351
73521600
735301:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,529
7354and you can manipulate the environment.
7355
73561601
735701:29:27,696 --> 01:29:29,823
7358You're not just selecting
7359from something that's there.
7360
73611602
736201:29:29,907 --> 01:29:32,910
7363It's interesting watching that aesthetic
7364carry through into this technology.
7365
73661603
736701:29:33,953 --> 01:29:35,454
7368And here we go. We're back.
7369
73701604
737101:29:35,538 --> 01:29:38,457
7372Now we're in the part of the movie where
7373
73741605
737501:29:39,500 --> 01:29:41,252
7376the big fight's about to happen.
7377
73781606
737901:29:42,670 --> 01:29:44,922
7380Again, taking an environment
7381that was already designed,
7382
73831607
738401:29:45,005 --> 01:29:46,090
7385trying to keep it photo-real,
7386
73871608
738801:29:46,173 --> 01:29:48,676
7389but trying to make it
7390look like it's desolate.
7391
73921609
739301:29:49,426 --> 01:29:51,387
7394And so a little bit's the bones,
7395a little bit's the dryness...
7396
73971610
739801:29:51,679 --> 01:29:55,474
7399The color palette,
7400the lighting, the skies.
7401
74021611
740301:29:55,891 --> 01:29:58,602
7404If I don't fight for it,
7405who will?
7406
74071612
740801:30:00,020 --> 01:30:01,605
7409I will.
7410
74111613
741201:30:01,772 --> 01:30:03,315
7413It's going to be dangerous.
7414
74151614
741601:30:03,482 --> 01:30:05,442
7417Danger? Ha!
7418
74191615
742001:30:05,526 --> 01:30:08,737
7421I laugh in the face of danger.
7422
74231616
742401:30:08,988 --> 01:30:12,157
7425FAVREAU: And then we have
7426Zazu coming back.
7427
74281617
742901:30:12,241 --> 01:30:13,784
7430And I think this is all basically...
7431
74321618
743301:30:13,867 --> 01:30:15,661
7434I mean, although
7435the dialogue's a bit different,
7436
74371619
743801:30:15,744 --> 01:30:17,830
7439I think it's the same
7440story point as in the original.
7441
74421620
744301:30:18,998 --> 01:30:20,457
7444Showing up, regrouping,
7445
74461621
744701:30:21,875 --> 01:30:24,086
7448the comic relief,
7449"the backup has arrived."
7450
74511622
745201:30:26,630 --> 01:30:28,382
7453The backup has arrived!
7454
74551623
745601:30:28,549 --> 01:30:30,092
7457What are you guys doing here?
7458
74591624
746001:30:30,175 --> 01:30:33,429
7461- Um, we were not worried!
7462- Um... No, not worried.
7463
74641625
746501:30:33,679 --> 01:30:35,055
7466FAVREAU: Pay off the...
7467
74681626
746901:30:35,306 --> 01:30:37,141
7470Even they've come around, see?
7471
74721627
747301:30:37,391 --> 01:30:38,892
7474Even they don't believe in...
7475
74761628
747701:30:39,393 --> 01:30:41,270
7478They believe in the circle of life, too.
7479
74801629
748101:30:45,149 --> 01:30:46,775
7482I like it.
7483They act like they don't care,
7484
74851630
748601:30:46,859 --> 01:30:48,652
7487but really they're good friends.
7488
74891631
749001:30:49,570 --> 01:30:53,449
7491And deep down they feel
7492a sense of shared responsibility, too.
7493
74941632
749501:30:53,824 --> 01:30:57,786
7496(CHUCKLING) I like that little piece
7497of animation where he knocks him over.
7498
74991633
750001:30:58,162 --> 01:31:00,414
7501Yes, Timon.
7502This is my home.
7503
75041634
750501:31:00,581 --> 01:31:02,708
7506Is it behind
7507that terrifying rock?
7508
75091635
751001:31:02,791 --> 01:31:03,917
7511FAVREAU: Yeah, that was it.
7512
75131636
751401:31:04,251 --> 01:31:05,544
7515Improv line.
7516
75171637
751801:31:07,838 --> 01:31:09,590
7519(CHUCKLES) I like that one.
7520
75211638
752201:31:12,551 --> 01:31:14,386
7523This is an improv line, too.
7524
75251639
752601:31:15,095 --> 01:31:16,180
7527"Puffin."
7528
75291640
753001:31:16,263 --> 01:31:19,058
7531I figure a puffin would be good
7532for the fans of Elf,
7533
75341641
753501:31:19,933 --> 01:31:21,352
7536the arctic puffin.
7537
75381642
753901:31:22,728 --> 01:31:25,731
7540I don't know. Maybe that's why
7541I thought of saying "puffin."
7542
75431643
754401:31:28,025 --> 01:31:30,152
7545That's a bonus question.
7546
75471644
754801:31:33,072 --> 01:31:34,365
7549Here we go.
7550
75511645
755201:31:35,115 --> 01:31:36,283
7553End of the reel.
7554
75551646
755601:31:37,493 --> 01:31:39,036
7557End of the fifth reel,
7558
75591647
756001:31:39,662 --> 01:31:40,996
7561slobbering guards.
7562
75631648
756401:31:42,790 --> 01:31:44,750
7565This is basically from the original.
7566
75671649
756801:31:46,794 --> 01:31:48,796
7569Live bait.
7570
75711650
757201:31:50,089 --> 01:31:52,257
7573FAVREAU: These types of gags
7574are so hard.
7575
75761651
757701:31:53,884 --> 01:31:55,344
7578There, it's all timing.
7579
75801652
758101:31:56,470 --> 01:31:59,723
7582The animators timing, Seth's timing,
7583
75841653
758501:32:01,517 --> 01:32:03,102
7586the editing.
7587
75881654
758901:32:06,230 --> 01:32:08,357
7590Why is everyone looking at me?
7591
75921655
759301:32:09,858 --> 01:32:10,984
7594FAVREAU: And here's our...
7595
75961656
759701:32:11,068 --> 01:32:12,653
7598(SPEAKING FRENCH)
7599
76001657
760101:32:14,196 --> 01:32:18,409
7602FAVREAU: ...little tip of the hat
7603to Beauty and the Beast.
7604
76051658
760601:32:21,453 --> 01:32:25,290
7607I noticed in the stage show
7608they poke fun at Frozen,
7609
76101659
761101:32:25,374 --> 01:32:28,335
7612which was another Broadway production.
7613
76141660
761501:32:28,877 --> 01:32:34,258
7616So, here, we give a little nod
7617to Beauty and the Beast,
7618
76191661
762001:32:34,758 --> 01:32:39,471
7621another classic animated film
7622turned live action.
7623
76241662
762501:32:41,640 --> 01:32:42,975
7626There we go.
7627
76281663
762901:32:45,185 --> 01:32:46,687
7630Oh, now it's gonna happen.
7631
76321664
763301:32:48,480 --> 01:32:53,110
7634Now, we couldn't have Rafiki walking
7635around with a stick the whole time
7636
76371665
763801:32:54,111 --> 01:32:56,280
7639because they just don't really do that.
7640
76411666
764201:32:57,114 --> 01:32:58,615
7643It would have looked fake.
7644
76451667
764601:32:59,950 --> 01:33:02,327
7647But he had to have
7648a stick for the fight,
7649
76501668
765101:33:02,703 --> 01:33:04,538
7652so we figured he kept it hidden.
7653
76541669
765501:33:05,706 --> 01:33:09,334
7656I'm curious if people get that
7657when we see it with an audience,
7658
76591670
766001:33:11,128 --> 01:33:12,671
7661(LAUGHING) if people remember the stick.
7662
76631671
766401:33:13,130 --> 01:33:14,465
7665It's like his lightsaber.
7666
76671672
766801:33:18,260 --> 01:33:21,180
7669And so now we get back into...
7670
76711673
767201:33:22,681 --> 01:33:24,099
7673Now we're getting back
7674to the part of the movie
7675
76761674
767701:33:24,183 --> 01:33:25,559
7678where everybody remembers every shot.
7679
76801675
768101:33:25,642 --> 01:33:29,605
7682So, we had to be very careful
7683when we deviated and for what reason.
7684
76851676
768601:33:31,690 --> 01:33:33,776
7687I am ten times
7688the king Mufasa was!
7689
76901677
769101:33:33,942 --> 01:33:36,528
7692You are nothing
7693compared to Mufasa!
7694
76951678
769601:33:37,070 --> 01:33:38,071
7697(GROWLING)
7698
76991679
770001:33:38,155 --> 01:33:44,912
7701FAVREAU: So, here's...
7702Here comes Simba breaking up the fight,
7703
77041680
770501:33:45,412 --> 01:33:48,791
7706and they have to mistake him
7707for Mufasa at first.
7708
77091681
771001:33:49,333 --> 01:33:50,375
7711It can't be.
7712
77131682
771401:33:50,459 --> 01:33:52,544
7715Get away from my mother.
7716
77171683
771801:33:52,628 --> 01:33:53,629
7719FAVREAU: That's a new line.
7720
77211684
772201:33:56,632 --> 01:33:58,550
7723Then she recognizes him, too.
7724
77251685
772601:33:59,259 --> 01:34:01,261
7727You're alive?
7728
77291686
773001:34:01,428 --> 01:34:03,764
7731How can that be?
7732
77331687
773401:34:04,014 --> 01:34:06,058
7735I'm here, Mother.
7736
77371688
773801:34:06,225 --> 01:34:07,226
7739I'm home.
7740
77411689
774201:34:07,392 --> 01:34:08,811
7743SCAR: Simba...
7744
77451690
774601:34:09,311 --> 01:34:11,104
7747I'm so happy to see you.
7748
77491691
775001:34:11,188 --> 01:34:13,649
7751FAVREAU: So, again, the themes
7752are paying off now,
7753
77541692
775501:34:16,401 --> 01:34:18,070
7756the musical themes.
7757
77581693
775901:34:20,197 --> 01:34:21,323
7760You see...
7761
77621694
776301:34:21,698 --> 01:34:23,575
7764they think I'm king.
7765
77661695
776701:34:25,244 --> 01:34:26,370
7768FAVREAU: And now here is...
7769
77701696
777101:34:28,497 --> 01:34:29,790
7772Beyoncé comes in.
7773
77741697
777501:34:31,959 --> 01:34:34,503
7776Simba is the rightful king!
7777
77781698
777901:34:35,212 --> 01:34:38,006
7780FAVREAU: So, all of this
7781was inspired also
7782
77831699
778401:34:39,299 --> 01:34:43,136
7785by seeing her performing live,
7786and there's that call and response.
7787
77881700
778901:34:44,096 --> 01:34:45,889
7790And just the way he or she...
7791
77921701
779301:34:47,766 --> 01:34:50,310
7794The stage presence that Nala has
7795
77961702
779701:34:51,311 --> 01:34:58,277
7798you know, all looking
7799at Beyoncé as a performer,
7800
78011703
780201:34:59,027 --> 01:35:00,696
7803just trying to carry some of that
7804
78051704
780601:35:02,698 --> 01:35:03,866
7807energy into it.
7808
78091705
781001:35:05,951 --> 01:35:10,080
7811And the idea that they're all
7812behind her, all the lionesses.
7813
78141706
781501:35:11,748 --> 01:35:15,043
7816So you haven't told them
7817your little secret?
7818
78191707
782001:35:15,377 --> 01:35:17,546
7821Well, Simba...
7822
78231708
782401:35:18,046 --> 01:35:19,673
7825now's your chance to confess.
7826
78271709
782801:35:19,756 --> 01:35:21,174
7829FAVREAU: And this gets into a part...
7830
78311710
783201:35:21,258 --> 01:35:23,635
7833This is another little solve
7834that we have
7835
78361711
783701:35:25,554 --> 01:35:27,347
7838'cause he gets Scar to admit it,
7839
78401712
784101:35:29,182 --> 01:35:31,685
7842that he... Like, confess to everything.
7843
78441713
784501:35:32,936 --> 01:35:38,567
7846And we thought it might be fun
7847if Sarabi figures it out
7848
78491714
785001:35:39,359 --> 01:35:43,113
7851because he's... Even though he would
7852tell Simba that just to mess with him.
7853
78541715
785501:35:43,739 --> 01:35:46,116
7856Once Simba gets the upper hand,
7857
78581716
785901:35:47,409 --> 01:35:52,205
7860instead of Scar admitting
7861that he did it to everybody
7862
78631717
786401:35:52,456 --> 01:35:54,291
7865that Sarabi would figure it out
7866
78671718
786801:35:55,125 --> 01:35:57,044
7869by an inconsistency in his story,
7870
78711719
787201:35:57,794 --> 01:35:58,795
7873which in this case is...
7874
78751720
787601:35:59,379 --> 01:36:01,214
7877"You said you didn't get
7878to the gorge in time.
7879
78801721
788101:36:01,465 --> 01:36:03,508
7882"Then how did you see
7883the look in his eye?"
7884
78851722
788601:36:04,468 --> 01:36:08,847
7887And realizes that
7888there's a gap in his alibi.
7889
78901723
789101:36:11,642 --> 01:36:15,729
7892And this stuff was really hard, too,
7893to get right for the animators
7894
78951724
789601:36:15,812 --> 01:36:18,190
7897because you want that
7898image of him hanging on.
7899
79001725
790101:36:18,774 --> 01:36:23,737
7902But it takes a lot of doing
7903to get the physics right
7904
79051726
790601:36:23,820 --> 01:36:26,114
7907and it to feel natural without
7908it feeling just like it's a cartoon
7909
79101727
791101:36:26,239 --> 01:36:30,953
7912with a guy hanging from his nails
7913from a branch or a tree.
7914
79151728
791601:36:31,495 --> 01:36:36,083
7917And so the design of the surface
7918and how it's covered
7919
79201729
792101:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,795
7922and how the animators performed it,
7923the angles of the camera,
7924
79251730
792601:36:39,878 --> 01:36:41,338
7927what you're seeing,
7928what you're not seeing,
7929
79301731
793101:36:41,546 --> 01:36:46,385
7932to feel like it's as precarious
7933as it was for Mufasa at the canyon.
7934
79351732
793601:36:47,427 --> 01:36:51,056
7937And I think this is really
7938nice animation when he tells him.
7939
79401733
794101:36:52,140 --> 01:36:54,518
7942There's a little bit
7943of expression in the eyes.
7944
79451734
794601:36:55,227 --> 01:36:59,439
7947And then the lighting with the fire
7948light when he says, "I killed Mufasa."
7949
79501735
795101:37:01,817 --> 01:37:02,818
7952Right there.
7953
79541736
795501:37:03,944 --> 01:37:05,237
7956Look at the way
7957
79581737
795901:37:05,320 --> 01:37:10,117
7960the eyelid picks up just slightly
7961exposing the pupil and the iris.
7962
79631738
796401:37:10,701 --> 01:37:12,452
7965It's really nice, subtle work.
7966
79671739
796801:37:13,954 --> 01:37:15,539
7969And we flashback and then...
7970
79711740
797201:37:16,957 --> 01:37:20,293
7973And using that bite to help
7974justify why he's pulled out.
7975
79761741
797701:37:20,377 --> 01:37:22,379
7978Now, the fires building up
7979on the flashback.
7980
79811742
798201:37:22,462 --> 01:37:23,755
7983We're able to cut to later.
7984
79851743
798601:37:24,131 --> 01:37:25,340
7987All the sparks.
7988
79891744
799001:37:25,424 --> 01:37:28,760
7991Rob Legato's big...
7992'Cause in 3D, the sparks look so good
7993
79941745
799501:37:29,219 --> 01:37:32,431
7996moving around in The Volume.
7997
79981746
799901:37:35,267 --> 01:37:36,518
8000That's true!
8001
80021747
800301:37:36,685 --> 01:37:39,855
8004Then how did you see
8005the look in Mufasa's eyes?
8006
80071748
800801:37:41,231 --> 01:37:42,899
8009Murderer!
8010
80111749
801201:37:42,983 --> 01:37:43,984
8013FAVREAU: Here we go.
8014
80151750
801601:37:49,573 --> 01:37:52,242
8017Beyoncé calls in the cavalry here.
8018
80191751
802001:37:54,453 --> 01:37:55,746
8021Boom.
8022
80231752
802401:37:55,829 --> 01:37:57,205
8025Here's the...
8026
80271753
802801:37:57,372 --> 01:37:59,041
8029Now, we're getting into
8030
80311754
803201:38:01,710 --> 01:38:05,338
8033the territory where you want
8034to have energy and power,
8035
80361755
803701:38:05,464 --> 01:38:09,384
8038but you also don't want it
8039to be too graphic.
8040
80411756
804201:38:09,468 --> 01:38:13,555
8043And so the lighting helps.
8044The silhouettes help. The energy helps.
8045
80461757
804701:38:15,265 --> 01:38:18,477
8048There's a certain degree
8049of intensity, but never...
8050
80511758
805201:38:18,810 --> 01:38:20,520
8053You know, we avoid showing bloodshed,
8054
80551759
805601:38:21,229 --> 01:38:25,025
8057keeping it more suggested
8058than actually shown.
8059
80601760
806101:38:26,777 --> 01:38:28,320
8062Here we go. That's J. Lee.
8063
80641761
806501:38:30,280 --> 01:38:31,865
8066And we changed this one, too,
8067
80681762
806901:38:33,075 --> 01:38:35,327
8070'cause "He called me Mr. Pigs,"
8071
80721763
807301:38:37,454 --> 01:38:39,873
8074I think is the joke from the old one.
8075It felt a little...
8076
80771764
807801:38:43,335 --> 01:38:44,669
8079It didn't feel contemporary. (CHUCKLES)
8080
80811765
808201:38:44,753 --> 01:38:47,339
8083But I also like the idea
8084
80851766
808601:38:48,090 --> 01:38:52,052
8087of him standing up
8088after he doesn't want to be shamed.
8089
80901767
809101:38:52,511 --> 01:38:53,887
8092That he's proud.
8093
80941768
809501:38:55,263 --> 01:38:58,225
8096He doesn't want to be bullied around.
8097It's a good message.
8098
80991769
810001:39:00,268 --> 01:39:01,269
8101(FAVREAU CHUCKLES)
8102
81031770
810401:39:02,395 --> 01:39:06,066
8105That was something, we were coming up
8106with different versions of that.
8107
81081771
810901:39:06,817 --> 01:39:09,694
8110And we gave that one to Seth.
8111I said, "Try this one,"
8112
81131772
811401:39:09,986 --> 01:39:12,197
8115and he came up with the wording of it.
8116
81171773
811801:39:12,948 --> 01:39:14,324
8119But...
8120
81211774
812201:39:15,617 --> 01:39:17,369
8123He was like,
8124"It's a good thing to say, man.
8125
81261775
812701:39:17,452 --> 01:39:19,329
8128"I wish I said it when I was little."
8129(LAUGHING)
8130
81311776
813201:39:21,331 --> 01:39:23,792
8133And I love here that
8134she's standing up to Shenzi,
8135
81361777
813701:39:24,084 --> 01:39:26,753
8138that Nala when she was getting
8139picked on when she was little.
8140
81411778
814201:39:27,170 --> 01:39:28,964
8143Now she's not little anymore.
8144
81451779
814601:39:30,006 --> 01:39:31,383
8147I got him! I got him!
8148
81491780
815001:39:33,093 --> 01:39:34,511
8151FAVREAU: When you're little,
8152you're scared of things.
8153
81541781
815501:39:34,594 --> 01:39:38,306
8156You get older, you realize
8157you're not so little anymore.
8158
81591782
816001:39:39,933 --> 01:39:41,351
8161- KAMARI: Get that bird!
8162- (ZAZU GRUNTS)
8163
81641783
816501:39:42,811 --> 01:39:44,229
8166FAVREAU: Oh, this.
8167
81681784
816901:39:45,856 --> 01:39:47,315
8170Here we go, and now we got...
8171
81721785
817301:39:49,359 --> 01:39:53,530
8174So Rafiki in the old one
8175did a lot of martial arts here.
8176
81771786
817801:39:53,947 --> 01:39:55,282
8179We couldn't quite go that far,
8180
81811787
818201:39:55,365 --> 01:39:57,284
8183but we figured you give him
8184the stick back.
8185
81861788
818701:39:57,742 --> 01:40:03,832
8188He could at least...
8189More like 2001 than The Matrix.
8190
81911789
819201:40:03,999 --> 01:40:07,836
8193But I think it does the job.
8194
81951790
819601:40:09,629 --> 01:40:11,047
8197(HYENAS WHINING)
8198
81991791
820001:40:12,674 --> 01:40:14,509
8201(GRUNTS, YELLS)
8202
82031792
820401:40:21,016 --> 01:40:22,726
8205That never gets old!
8206
82071793
820801:40:23,685 --> 01:40:24,978
8209(BOTH GRUNTING)
8210
82111794
821201:40:26,938 --> 01:40:30,775
8213FAVREAU: And that sort of
8214curtain of fire behind them
8215
82161795
821701:40:30,859 --> 01:40:33,528
8218is something that was very much
8219inspired by the animated film.
8220
82211796
822201:40:38,241 --> 01:40:39,409
8223As she takes care of...
8224
82251797
822601:40:39,743 --> 01:40:42,454
8227Hopefully, you know it's Shenzi.
8228
82291798
823001:40:43,330 --> 01:40:47,500
8231Again, tough in the dark
8232to tell the different animals,
8233
82341799
823501:40:49,085 --> 01:40:50,837
8236which character is which.
8237
82381800
823901:40:52,464 --> 01:40:53,798
8240But that's Scar,
8241
82421801
824301:40:54,299 --> 01:40:56,885
8244and now they're being
8245chased off the rock there.
8246
82471802
824801:40:57,719 --> 01:41:00,430
8249They've vanquished the hyenas.
8250
82511803
825201:41:01,389 --> 01:41:02,682
8253And there we go.
8254
82551804
825601:41:03,642 --> 01:41:06,478
8257Now we all know.
8258We all know where this is going.
8259
82601805
826101:41:07,729 --> 01:41:09,898
8262This is, again,
8263very memorable from the old film.
8264
82651806
826601:41:10,023 --> 01:41:12,651
8267So we wanted to try
8268
82691807
827001:41:14,319 --> 01:41:15,654
8271to capture a lot of the same images.
8272
82731808
827401:41:16,112 --> 01:41:20,408
8275We even tried some
8276of the stuttery slow motion
8277
82781809
827901:41:20,700 --> 01:41:23,703
8280when he's fighting Scar 'cause
8281that's what they had in the original.
8282
82831810
828401:41:23,912 --> 01:41:25,622
8285It just didn't feel right.
8286
82871811
828801:41:25,997 --> 01:41:27,874
8289But we tried it.
8290We rendered it that way.
8291
82921812
829301:41:28,583 --> 01:41:31,503
8294That kind of, like, the stutter frames.
8295
82961813
829701:41:34,547 --> 01:41:38,677
8298It was a nice reference back,
8299but it didn't feel right in the movie.
8300
83011814
830201:41:43,348 --> 01:41:46,977
8303But we kept the sparks
8304being kicked up in his face.
8305
83061815
830701:41:49,688 --> 01:41:53,692
8308Wherever we could,
8309we tried to really stay
8310
83111816
831201:41:55,151 --> 01:41:57,195
8313as close to these moments as we could.
8314
83151817
831601:41:57,570 --> 01:42:00,323
8317This is one of those
8318memorable sequences where people
8319
83201818
832101:42:01,783 --> 01:42:03,243
8322remember them clashing.
8323
83241819
832501:42:05,620 --> 01:42:06,746
8326No, Scar.
8327
83281820
832901:42:08,498 --> 01:42:10,041
8330I'm not like you.
8331
83321821
833301:42:11,543 --> 01:42:13,503
8334FAVREAU: And this whole sequence here,
8335this fight,
8336
83371822
833801:42:14,713 --> 01:42:17,465
8339so we decided that
8340we were gonna use a Steadicam,
8341
83421823
834301:42:17,716 --> 01:42:20,844
8344and we had built tools
8345that would be fake Steadicams,
8346
83471824
834801:42:20,969 --> 01:42:22,512
8349but none of them had the right feel,
8350
83511825
835201:42:22,595 --> 01:42:25,181
8353and we actually brought in
8354a Steadicam operator
8355
83561826
835701:42:25,265 --> 01:42:28,560
8358who used his full Steadicam rig,
8359
83601827
836101:42:28,852 --> 01:42:30,979
8362like, weighted as though
8363it was a real camera,
8364
83651828
836601:42:31,313 --> 01:42:32,605
8367even though we didn't need a camera.
8368
83691829
837001:42:32,689 --> 01:42:36,735
8371We just had a positional
8372data puck on top
8373
83741830
837501:42:36,818 --> 01:42:38,653
8376that we could read the position of.
8377
83781831
837901:42:38,737 --> 01:42:43,033
8380So all we needed was one little thing
8381that weighs three ounces
8382
83831832
838401:42:43,491 --> 01:42:44,617
8385to track the movement.
8386
83871833
838801:42:44,993 --> 01:42:48,621
8389But to get the proper
8390feeling of a Steadicam,
8391
83921834
839301:42:48,747 --> 01:42:52,417
8394we weighted it
8395and actually were in The Volume
8396
83971835
839801:42:53,168 --> 01:42:56,421
8399in our offices,
8400
84011836
840201:42:57,714 --> 01:42:59,049
8403in our warehouse.
8404
84051837
840601:43:00,258 --> 01:43:01,551
8407And he would watch the screen,
8408
84091838
841001:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,180
8411and we would have
8412the movement choreographed.
8413
84141839
841501:43:05,764 --> 01:43:07,557
8416And so...
8417
84181840
841901:43:09,100 --> 01:43:11,978
8420And Caleb would direct him.
8421
84221841
842301:43:12,062 --> 01:43:14,773
8424And so all of these shots,
8425that's why they're not perfect.
8426
84271842
842801:43:14,856 --> 01:43:15,857
8429They're like a Steadicam,
8430
84311843
843201:43:15,940 --> 01:43:18,443
8433where you get good movement
8434and you rehearse it,
8435
84361844
843701:43:18,526 --> 01:43:20,570
8438and you try to get
8439the good part of the shot,
8440
84411845
844201:43:20,653 --> 01:43:23,073
8443but there's always
8444a little bit of sloppiness to it.
8445
84461846
844701:43:23,656 --> 01:43:25,909
8448And that helps it, I think,
8449bring energy to it,
8450
84511847
845201:43:26,034 --> 01:43:27,535
8453and there he is falling down.
8454
84551848
845601:43:29,245 --> 01:43:30,830
8457Again, like in Jungle Book,
8458
84591849
846001:43:31,122 --> 01:43:33,333
8461(CHUCKLING) we borrow
8462a lot of this from Jungle Book
8463
84641850
846501:43:33,458 --> 01:43:35,585
8466before I ever knew
8467I was gonna be doing Lion King.
8468
84691851
847001:43:35,668 --> 01:43:37,420
8471So, like, the stampede
8472
84731852
847401:43:37,587 --> 01:43:41,800
8475and Shere Khan
8476falling down into the fire
8477
84781853
847901:43:42,425 --> 01:43:44,761
8480was very similar to what we have here.
8481
84821854
848301:43:49,557 --> 01:43:53,311
8484And this is really nice.
8485Again, tricky to do.
8486
84871855
848801:43:53,395 --> 01:43:57,440
8489It's hard to understand, but having
8490that fire light motivating it,
8491
84921856
849301:43:58,483 --> 01:44:00,318
8494having that look and that environment,
8495
84961857
849701:44:01,694 --> 01:44:03,113
8498I think this all came together well.
8499
85001858
850101:44:04,114 --> 01:44:08,868
8502It sort of has a spooky,
8503Hitchcock-type look here,
8504
85051859
850601:44:08,952 --> 01:44:14,791
8507especially with the twisting camera
8508going into Shenzi's push-in coming up.
8509
85101860
851101:44:19,170 --> 01:44:22,841
8512This little one here
8513coming out of the smoke,
8514
85151861
851601:44:23,925 --> 01:44:25,135
8517this little one.
8518
85191862
852001:44:28,847 --> 01:44:29,848
8521And then this,
8522
85231863
852401:44:29,931 --> 01:44:33,143
8525how you tilt up off of him
8526onto the shadow onto the wall.
8527
85281864
852901:44:33,226 --> 01:44:34,686
8530Again, easy to do in a cartoon,
8531
85321865
853301:44:34,769 --> 01:44:38,940
8534but a lot of work for the animators
8535and people lighting to get that look.
8536
85371866
853801:44:40,733 --> 01:44:44,571
8539And then we go up to the rain
8540coming back down.
8541
85421867
854301:44:45,447 --> 01:44:48,491
8544And then, of course, the amazing music.
8545
85461868
854701:44:52,537 --> 01:44:55,165
8548And I'll take this moment
8549to mention Hans Zimmer,
8550
85511869
855201:44:55,248 --> 01:44:57,333
8553although he's credited as, I think,
8554
85551870
855601:44:57,417 --> 01:45:03,923
8557executive music producer
8558and composer involved.
8559
85601871
856101:45:04,132 --> 01:45:06,676
8562But he was involved with
8563so much of this production,
8564
85651872
856601:45:07,677 --> 01:45:12,348
8567certainly in helping bring together all
8568the people collaborating on the music.
8569
85701873
857101:45:12,599 --> 01:45:16,227
8572And he had, of course,
8573relationships with Lebo,
8574
85751874
857601:45:17,020 --> 01:45:19,105
8577with Elton, Tim, Pharrell.
8578
85791875
858001:45:19,522 --> 01:45:22,233
8581But all the actors and making everybody,
8582
85831876
858401:45:22,317 --> 01:45:27,864
8585even, like, Seth and Billy,
8586everybody feel comfortable.
8587
85881877
858901:45:28,364 --> 01:45:31,868
8590And he's got his workshop
8591in Santa Monica,
8592
85931878
859401:45:31,951 --> 01:45:33,411
8595and that became like our hub.
8596
85971879
859801:45:34,078 --> 01:45:36,289
8599We listened to music there.
8600We'd record music there.
8601
86021880
860301:45:36,372 --> 01:45:38,082
8604He'd mix it, produce it,
8605
86061881
860701:45:38,333 --> 01:45:40,502
8608and would bring in
8609all these great musicians,
8610
86111882
861201:45:40,585 --> 01:45:42,253
8613and he's just a...
8614
86151883
861601:45:42,337 --> 01:45:45,590
8617And then, not only
8618does he have so much talent,
8619
86201884
862101:45:46,758 --> 01:45:50,929
8622great person
8623to coordinate with everybody,
8624
86251885
862601:45:51,971 --> 01:45:54,724
8627but also cares deeply about storytelling
8628
86291886
863001:45:55,016 --> 01:45:58,436
8631and was, you know, if I was
8632ever wrestling with something
8633
86341887
863501:45:59,020 --> 01:46:02,190
8636or should I do this or that,
8637he was always somebody who I would go to
8638
86391888
864001:46:02,273 --> 01:46:04,275
8641because he was somebody
8642who was there for the original,
8643
86441889
864501:46:04,442 --> 01:46:06,986
8646but he's not afraid of change
8647
86481890
864901:46:07,820 --> 01:46:08,988
8650and not afraid of the future.
8651
86521891
865301:46:09,405 --> 01:46:15,620
8654And he was just
8655a tremendous collaborator
8656
86571892
865801:46:16,746 --> 01:46:18,915
8659throughout the whole process.
8660I'd known him before.
8661
86621893
866301:46:18,998 --> 01:46:21,751
8664I had worked in Remote Control
8665back when we did...
8666
86671894
866801:46:21,834 --> 01:46:25,255
8669I was working with
8670Ramin Djawadi on Iron Man
8671
86721895
867301:46:25,338 --> 01:46:29,133
8674and the score for Iron Man
8675over at his workshop there.
8676
86771896
867801:46:29,592 --> 01:46:31,177
8679And he was part of that process,
8680
86811897
868201:46:31,261 --> 01:46:33,137
8683but this was the first time
8684he'd ever scored for me,
8685
86861898
868701:46:33,221 --> 01:46:34,514
8688and he was just...
8689
86901899
869101:46:34,597 --> 01:46:36,391
8692Gee, I don't know how
8693I would've done this without him.
8694
86951900
869601:46:36,641 --> 01:46:39,811
8697He was so insightful in so many ways.
8698
86991901
870001:46:41,187 --> 01:46:45,733
8701And here we go. Here's the mouse
8702from the beginning of the movie
8703
87041902
870501:46:45,817 --> 01:46:47,610
8706that got away from Scar.
8707
87081903
870901:46:48,319 --> 01:46:50,613
8710And he outlasted Scar.
8711How do you like that?
8712
87131904
871401:46:51,406 --> 01:46:54,409
8715If that's not a lesson, kids,
8716I don't know what is.
8717
87181905
871901:46:55,994 --> 01:46:57,370
8720He made it. Scar didn't.
8721
87221906
872301:46:58,496 --> 01:47:00,164
8724And I love all the little children.
8725
87261907
872701:47:00,248 --> 01:47:02,292
8728I made sure that
8729we had babies for every species.
8730
87311908
873201:47:02,375 --> 01:47:05,420
8733(LAUGHING) There's the little
8734ostrich babies.
8735
87361909
873701:47:07,130 --> 01:47:08,548
8738I love all the little kids.
8739
87401910
874101:47:08,631 --> 01:47:12,135
8742Actually, we just passed by
8743a northern white rhino.
8744
87451911
874601:47:12,218 --> 01:47:13,469
8747We had that.
8748
87491912
875001:47:13,553 --> 01:47:16,347
8751Unfortunately, that species
8752had gone extinct
8753
87541913
875501:47:17,015 --> 01:47:19,058
8756while we were prepping
8757the film, very sad,
8758
87591914
876001:47:19,142 --> 01:47:24,731
8761and we wanted to at least memorialize
8762the memory of that species,
8763
87641915
876501:47:24,814 --> 01:47:29,861
8766and this is why it's so important,
8767hopefully next generation...
8768
87691916
877001:47:29,986 --> 01:47:32,030
8771Look at that little hippo there.
8772
87731917
877401:47:32,322 --> 01:47:34,365
8775Hopefully, the next generation...
8776(CHUCKLES) There's the little warthog,
8777
87781918
877901:47:34,449 --> 01:47:36,909
8780all the little characters
8781that get a curtain call.
8782
87831919
878401:47:37,327 --> 01:47:39,329
8785Hopefully, this develops a relationship
8786
87871920
878801:47:39,412 --> 01:47:44,208
8789as kids come up seeing this
8790as something that's just a fun movie,
8791
87921921
879301:47:45,752 --> 01:47:47,086
8794something that's
8795entertaining emotionally,
8796
87971922
879801:47:48,463 --> 01:47:51,257
8799you know, fun sometimes, emotionally,
8800too, but certainly memorable.
8801
88021923
880301:47:51,341 --> 01:47:53,217
8804It's an emotional ride.
8805
88061924
880701:47:53,676 --> 01:47:55,928
8808But hopefully,
8809if they feel connected to this film,
8810
88111925
881201:47:56,012 --> 01:48:00,016
8813it'll make them seek out what's
8814really out there in the real world
8815
88161926
881701:48:00,099 --> 01:48:04,062
8818and help protect what's still there.
8819
88201927
882101:48:04,312 --> 01:48:09,359
8822And this might be
8823somebody's first exposure
8824
88251928
882601:48:09,525 --> 01:48:13,696
8827to all of these species
8828and all of these parts of the world,
8829
88301929
883101:48:13,780 --> 01:48:17,950
8832and, you know,
8833just like the circle of life,
8834
88351930
883601:48:18,034 --> 01:48:24,207
8837it's our job to keep it going
8838for those that come after us.
8839
88401931
884101:48:26,250 --> 01:48:28,670
8842So, and there's...
8843
88441932
884501:48:29,295 --> 01:48:30,505
8846There you go.
8847
88481933
884901:48:30,797 --> 01:48:34,050
8850There's Elton John singing and Lebo
8851
88521934
885301:48:35,843 --> 01:48:38,346
8854pulled the choir together for that.
8855
88561935
885701:48:38,805 --> 01:48:43,226
8858And of course, Tim Rice, lyricist.
8859
88601936
886101:48:44,185 --> 01:48:46,104
8862So, again, collaborating
8863like on the old one.
8864
88651937
886601:48:46,187 --> 01:48:50,274
8867This is an original song
8868that was written for this.
8869
88701938
887101:48:52,193 --> 01:48:55,363
8872And what a treat for me
8873
88741939
887501:48:55,446 --> 01:48:59,742
8876to be able to collaborate
8877with Elton John.
8878
88791940
888001:48:59,826 --> 01:49:02,078
8881I'm of the generation that we...
8882
88831941
888401:49:02,245 --> 01:49:04,872
8885My whole childhood
8886was informed by his music.
8887
88881942
888901:49:05,540 --> 01:49:10,878
8890And to get to work with him on this
8891was a huge honor, huge treat.
8892
88931943
889401:49:11,421 --> 01:49:13,089
8895And of course, Tim Rice,
8896
88971944
889801:49:13,965 --> 01:49:20,763
8899great to collaborate with, you know,
8900genius from musical theater, lyricist.
8901
89021945
890301:49:21,389 --> 01:49:25,059
8904Again, all of them, what was so fun
8905is now they all have kids and families,
8906
89071946
890801:49:25,143 --> 01:49:28,855
8909and those kids either are
8910or have grown up with the original.
8911
89121947
891301:49:29,397 --> 01:49:36,362
8914(CHUCKLING) And so it really felt like
8915a family picnic where it wasn't just...
8916
89171948
891801:49:36,612 --> 01:49:38,614
8919You wouldn't just have
8920the person you collaborate with,
8921
89221949
892301:49:38,698 --> 01:49:40,491
8924but their kids were coming by
8925and everybody...
8926
89271950
892801:49:40,575 --> 01:49:42,118
8929And my kids were coming by.
8930
89311951
893201:49:42,243 --> 01:49:45,538
8933And it really felt like...
8934Everybody knew what it was.
8935
89361952
893701:49:45,621 --> 01:49:47,165
8938You didn't have to explain it.
8939It's The Lion King.
8940
89411953
894201:49:47,248 --> 01:49:49,417
8943You showed them the visuals.
8944They got it.
8945
89461954
894701:49:49,625 --> 01:49:53,463
8948Everybody was kind of, you know,
8949wanted to see it turn out well
8950
89511955
895201:49:53,671 --> 01:49:55,923
8953and wanted to be around it
8954while it was happening.
8955
89561956
895701:49:56,007 --> 01:49:58,176
8958It was a real treat
8959
89601957
896101:49:58,259 --> 01:50:04,098
8962to be able to carry the torch on this
8963for the three years we worked on it,
8964
89651958
896601:50:04,182 --> 01:50:08,060
8967knowing how many people
8968had worked so hard before
8969
89701959
897101:50:08,352 --> 01:50:10,146
8972and how much people care about the movie
8973
89741960
897501:50:10,229 --> 01:50:12,273
8976and people who worked on it,
8977people who just love it
8978
89791961
898001:50:12,356 --> 01:50:13,357
8981and feel it's part of their lives
8982
89831962
898401:50:13,441 --> 01:50:16,110
8985'cause they've seen it
8986so many times growing up.
8987
89881963
898901:50:17,278 --> 01:50:20,865
8990So, hopefully, we did our job.
8991
89921964
899301:50:20,948 --> 01:50:25,703
8994And we've written another chapter
8995in the book of Lion King
8996
89971965
899801:50:26,204 --> 01:50:28,706
8999and pass it onto the next generation.
9000
90011966
900201:50:29,999 --> 01:50:32,668
9003And there,
9004we see it's based on Lion King.
9005
90061967
900701:50:33,127 --> 01:50:35,755
9008And those are the original writers.
9009
90101968
901101:50:36,172 --> 01:50:37,757
9012And also the filmmakers...
9013
90141969
901501:50:37,965 --> 01:50:41,135
9016Because although
9017we put a lot of work into it,
9018
90191970
902001:50:41,219 --> 01:50:46,140
9021we really were just building on
9022what the filmmakers, writers,
9023
90241971
902501:50:46,224 --> 01:50:50,937
9026and everybody involved
9027with the theater production,
9028
90291972
903001:50:51,020 --> 01:50:54,148
9031we're just building on something
9032that they had already made
9033
90341973
903501:50:54,982 --> 01:50:57,610
9036and bringing new technology to bear,
9037
90381974
903901:50:57,693 --> 01:51:00,780
9040new performers interpreting
9041the music and the roles,
9042
90431975
904401:51:00,863 --> 01:51:03,741
9045but really trying to honor
9046the original as much as we could.
9047
90481976
904901:51:05,535 --> 01:51:09,080
9050And that's about it.
9051
90521977
905301:51:09,163 --> 01:51:11,249
9054We got coming up...
9055
90561978
905701:51:11,332 --> 01:51:16,546
9058(CHUCKLES) Like a DJ, "Coming up is
9059He Lives In You, performed by Lebo M."
9060
90611979
906201:51:17,255 --> 01:51:20,383
9063And then Lebo also performs
9064at the end, Mbube,
9065
90661980
906701:51:20,466 --> 01:51:26,180
9068which I thought was a really,
9069really great way to end the credits
9070
90711981
907201:51:26,597 --> 01:51:28,516
9073because that's the original song
9074
90751982
907601:51:29,642 --> 01:51:36,148
9077written by Solomon Linda in South Africa
9078back in the '20s or '30s,
9079
90801983
908101:51:36,691 --> 01:51:40,486
9082which was the tune that inspired
9083The Lion Sleeps Tonight.
9084
90851984
908601:51:40,570 --> 01:51:43,990
9087Many people don't know that actually
9088comes from a South African song.
9089
90901985
909101:51:44,907 --> 01:51:46,784
9092It was thought to be a traditional
9093
90941986
909501:51:46,868 --> 01:51:51,330
9096back when Pete Seeger recorded it,
9097called Wimoweh.
9098
90991987
910001:51:52,248 --> 01:51:55,585
9101And it actually goes back to
9102Solomon Linda, who performed it.
9103
91041988
910501:51:56,002 --> 01:51:57,795
9106And the tune from
9107The Lion Sleeps Tonight
9108
91091989
911001:51:57,879 --> 01:52:03,509
9111that everybody thinks, most people think
9112is just a doo-wop song from New York,
9113
91141990
911501:52:03,593 --> 01:52:05,553
9116you know, from the doo-wop scene,
9117
91181991
911901:52:05,636 --> 01:52:09,348
9120was actually a tune
9121that was rediscovered
9122
91231992
912401:52:09,765 --> 01:52:11,767
9125for a third time for that version.
9126
91271993
912801:52:12,351 --> 01:52:17,440
9129But the original, we have Lebo M
9130performing the original, Mbube,
9131
91321994
913301:52:18,065 --> 01:52:19,275
9134which is the lion
9135
91361995
913701:52:19,358 --> 01:52:24,488
9138and trying to pay honor to Solomon Linda
9139
91401996
914101:52:24,614 --> 01:52:29,285
9142who wrote and performed it originally,
9143getting back to the earliest...
9144
91451997
914601:52:29,368 --> 01:52:32,747
9147Getting back to the roots
9148of what inspired all this.
9149
91501998
915101:52:33,289 --> 01:52:40,046
9152So, thank you for your patience (LAUGHS)
9153as I talk through the whole thing.
9154
91551999
915601:52:40,129 --> 01:52:42,924
9157There's so much to talk about.
9158So much went into this.
9159
91602000
916101:52:43,007 --> 01:52:45,343
9162But just looking at the list of names,
9163
91642001
916501:52:45,426 --> 01:52:49,305
9166people collaborating on this
9167
91682002
916901:52:49,388 --> 01:52:55,561
9170from Africa, America, Europe, and Asia.
9171
91722003
917301:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,731
9174Everybody contributing
9175to this production,
9176
91772004
917801:52:59,023 --> 01:53:00,608
9179and you could see
9180how many people it takes
9181
91822005
918301:53:00,691 --> 01:53:03,402
9184to bring this to life
9185
91862006
918701:53:03,486 --> 01:53:07,073
9188and hopefully make
9189all the work look invisible.
9190
91912007
919201:53:07,156 --> 01:53:08,741
9193There's no brush strokes.
9194
91952008
919601:53:08,950 --> 01:53:10,117
9197It should just look like
9198
91992009
920001:53:10,201 --> 01:53:12,995
9201hopefully you're looking at
9202real animals doing their thing.
9203
92042010
920501:53:13,371 --> 01:53:14,747
9206But this was quite an adventure,
9207
92082011
920901:53:14,830 --> 01:53:16,624
9210and I'm very proud
9211to have been a part of it,
9212
92132012
921401:53:16,707 --> 01:53:19,835
9215to get the opportunity to collaborate
9216with all these great people
9217
92182013
921901:53:20,127 --> 01:53:21,671
9220and learn so much in the process
9221
92222014
922301:53:21,754 --> 01:53:26,384
9224and hopefully do justice
9225to the legacy of this story.
9226
92272015
922801:53:27,343 --> 01:53:28,678
9229Thank you.