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2Session Start: Wed Oct 21 20:40:56 2015
3Session Ident: @View
4Session Start: Fri Oct 16 23:46:40 2015
5Session Ident: #Rank-Talk
603[23:46] * Now talking in #Rank-Talk
701[23:46] <WyzDM> alright boys
8[23:46] <[TZ]Galeforce> What's up
901[23:46] <WyzDM> It's time
1001[23:46] <WyzDM> Well 
1103[23:47] * [TZ]Rain sets mode: +o WyzDM
1203[23:47] * [TZ]Rain sets mode: +v [TZ]DAZ
1303[23:47] * [TZ]Rain sets mode: +o [TZ]Galeforce
1401[23:47] <@WyzDM> I just brought this up to rain
15[23:47] <@[TZ]Galeforce> we don't really need op in here lol. 
1601[23:47] <@WyzDM> he's had it on his mind for a while
1701[23:47] <@WyzDM> maybe longer than me
18[23:47] <@[TZ]Galeforce> what we doing
19[23:47] <@[TZ]Rain> Restructuring our site
20[23:47] <@[TZ]Galeforce> we busting out the strippers finally 
2101[23:47] <@WyzDM> but we're talking about mroe than just some site reconstruction
22[23:47] <@[TZ]Rain> As it stands we're the only "
23[23:47] <@[TZ]Rain> clan"
2401[23:47] <@WyzDM> We need to redefine ourselves
25[23:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Via... what? 
2601[23:48] <@WyzDM> We
2701[23:48] <@WyzDM> are a team. But a team with the purpose 
28[23:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> forums got shot down when we started using mibbit
2901[23:48] <@WyzDM> of challenging each other, and others
3001[23:48] <@WyzDM> to push everything forward
3101[23:48] <@WyzDM> Yeah
32[23:48] <@[TZ]Rain> Essentially, what we want is for Zenith to be more open
3301[23:48] <@WyzDM> This is why we're no longer going to remain inclusive
34[23:48] <@[TZ]Rain> more of a community group 
3501[23:49] <@WyzDM> Yes
36[23:49] <@[TZ]Rain> But with sponsored players at the top
3701[23:49] <@WyzDM> In the past, it was more up to us because
3801[23:49] <@WyzDM> we had more numbers
3901[23:49] <@WyzDM> trying to compte in groups
4001[23:49] <@WyzDM> directly
4101[23:49] <@WyzDM> Now, this doesn't happen
42[23:49] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So are we getting ready to possibly drop the name and move on to something larger? 
4301[23:49] <@WyzDM> No, the name sticks
44[23:49] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Basically take over the scene as a whole? 
4501[23:49] <@WyzDM> But yes
4601[23:49] <@WyzDM> we're taking over
4701[23:49] <@WyzDM> as a sponsorship
48[23:49] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Figured as much
49[23:49] <@[TZ]Rain> Think like big esports teams
50[23:50] <@[TZ]Rain> Like liquid or cloud9
5101[23:50] <@WyzDM> I'm already funding many events
5201[23:50] <@WyzDM> and players
53[23:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> and that makes us what? lol
54[23:50] <@[TZ]Rain> Zenith.
5501[23:50] <@WyzDM> To be quiet honest
5601[23:50] <@WyzDM> *quite
5701[23:50] <@WyzDM> we don't exactly have a direct plan
58[23:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So the idea is there. But how are we going to push forward with this? 
5901[23:50] <@WyzDM> for how we can treat you, as a sponsored player
60[23:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> answered that question 
61[23:50] <@[TZ]Rain> As I stated before gale
62[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> The first step on this is a restructuring of the site
6301[23:51] <@WyzDM> But we first recognize how we need to evlolve
6401[23:51] <@WyzDM> *evolve
65[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> Make it more open, more inclusive, and hopfully
66[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> More active.
67[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> This requires a lot though
68[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> The framework is there
69[23:51] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So, here's my idea. 
70[23:51] <@[TZ]Rain> but we can be so much more
7101[23:51] <@WyzDM> What's that?
72[23:52] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We start new. We build a new site, and get CJ on board with the situation. From there, we have him set the link to our new site into the SE lobby, so literally anyone and everyone can see it, rather than having to search the forums.
73[23:52] <@[TZ]Galeforce> And we open more so of an event forum
74[23:53] <@[TZ]Rain> See without a solid case as to WHY we should be linked in the lobby
75[23:53] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Forum, site, however it needs to be dealt with
76[23:53] <@[TZ]Rain> We won't be - plain and simple
77[23:53] <@[TZ]Galeforce> To increase activity and competitiveness to the game
7801[23:53] <@WyzDM> As great as taht sounds Gale,
79[23:53] <@[TZ]Rain> See but HOW? We need to be able to proove that we can
8001[23:53] <@WyzDM> he had an issue when for sign ups to rumble
81[23:53] <@[TZ]Rain> before we claim that we will
82[23:53] <@[TZ]Galeforce> And get CJ to fucking advertise good god
8301[23:53] <@WyzDM> I linked our website
8401[23:53] <@WyzDM> he told me flat out
8501[23:53] <@WyzDM> why he didn't want our site to be linked
86[23:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> oh sorry
87[23:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Which would be why
88[23:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> i tabbed away
8901[23:54] <@WyzDM> because it's his game, and he was funding part of rumble
90[23:54] <@[TZ]Rain> and thats why youre just voiced. lol
9101[23:54] <@WyzDM> and he didn't understand why players needed to go from his forums
9201[23:54] <@WyzDM> to ours
93[23:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Understandable 
9401[23:54] <@WyzDM> and tbh, fair point
95[23:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> But this game could explode with the right treatment 
9601[23:54] <@WyzDM> Agreed.
97[23:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> giving us a small section of stick page forums isn't exactly going to help us get noticed 
98[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> That's why we want this site
99[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> To help be a catylyst for growth
100[23:55] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Majority of players don't even know there are forums
10101[23:55] <@WyzDM> Players already know who we are
10201[23:55] <@WyzDM> they know what we do
10301[23:55] <@WyzDM> but... we're not inviting them
104[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> Maybe vaugely
10501[23:55] <@WyzDM> as much as we can
106[23:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> it feels weird
107[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> BUt i've been trying to recruit
108[23:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> to split away from a clan into a community-esque clan
109[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> For ovewr a year
110[23:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> but i think it's the right decision
111[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> the general sentiment these days is
112[23:55] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I've been trying to pull new players too.
113[23:55] <@[TZ]Rain> "whats the point of a clan?"
114[23:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> "why do we need a clan"
115[23:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> ^^qft
116[23:55] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Wizacademy, Organization, and a few others. 
11701[23:55] <@WyzDM> See we wouldn't be a clan
11801[23:56] <@WyzDM> we'd be a sponsorship
119[23:56] <@[TZ]Rain> No, I know. 
120[23:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Just an open organization that runs tournaments. 
121[23:56] <@[TZ]Rain> that's just why we don't have members now
12201[23:56] <@WyzDM> we in a way, already are
123[23:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I would be totally down with that. 
12401[23:56] <@WyzDM> little more than that Galeforce
12501[23:56] <@WyzDM> but yeah that's how it's starting
126[23:56] <@[TZ]Rain> Indeed
127[23:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> What more are you thinking? 
128[23:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> LAN parties? lol
12901[23:56] <@WyzDM> lol
130[23:56] <@[TZ]Rain> Think like team liquid's site
13101[23:56] <@WyzDM> Well I have a few ideas
132[23:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Not familiar with these teams
133[23:57] <@[TZ]Rain> http://www.teamliquid.net
13401[23:57] <@WyzDM> The first, is that there's obviously us 4 and zomar and spino
13501[23:57] <@WyzDM> and a few select others
13601[23:57] <@WyzDM> we're the die hards
13701[23:57] <@WyzDM> but mroe than that
13801[23:57] <@WyzDM> all of us give in a way
13901[23:57] <@WyzDM> into Zenith
14001[23:57] <@WyzDM> I want to also turn that around
14101[23:57] <@WyzDM> so Zenith gives out
142[23:57] <+[TZ]DAZ> hm/
14301[23:57] <@WyzDM> and even more so to you
14401[23:58] <@WyzDM> We have a community channel
145[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> Think about it like this
146[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> Before we thrived because we rode the atmosphere of the time -
147[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> Clan wars, clan events, clan hype
148[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> Now that atmosphere is gone
14901[23:58] <@WyzDM> ^
150[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> rather than wait for it to come back
151[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> we should CREATE a new atmosphere
152[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> We can't merely subsist
15301[23:58] <@WyzDM> just as we created the former
154[23:58] <@[TZ]Rain> we have to thrive
15501[23:58] <@WyzDM> tbh
15601[23:58] <@WyzDM> at least Dae and I did with gale
157[23:58] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We look like those old badasses that spent all their life fighting wars overseas lol
15801[23:59] <@WyzDM> lol
159[23:59] <+[TZ]DAZ> lool
160[23:59] <@[TZ]Rain> :P
16101[23:59] <@WyzDM> Well how about this for you
162[23:59] <@[TZ]Galeforce> "Man back in my day I'd whoop that ass... etc etc
16301[23:59] <@WyzDM> When we're talking membership now
16401[23:59] <@WyzDM> players join the site
16501[23:59] <@WyzDM> ...and they get a lot of previledges
16601[23:59] <@WyzDM> they are a member. boom. no app
16701[23:59] <@WyzDM> then there's premium member
168Session Time: Sat Oct 17 00:00:00 2015
169[00:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ..with a commission. :D
17001[00:00] <@WyzDM> we can come up with benefits and perks for that
171[00:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> TL+
172[00:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> Kappa
17301[00:00] <@WyzDM> now after that
17401[00:00] <@WyzDM> there's spnsored
17501[00:00] <@WyzDM> you guys
176[00:00] <@[TZ]Rain> If we can get regular content and streams going
17701[00:00] <@WyzDM> I was also thinking that
178[00:00] <@[TZ]Rain> We could perhaps get a cash flow of donations and twitch subs
17901[00:00] <@WyzDM> we all but daz
18001[00:00] <@WyzDM> have our own channels
181[00:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I've been trying my best to get this game on Youtube 
18201[00:00] <@WyzDM> if we made a commitment
18301[00:00] <@WyzDM> to upload one item a week
18401[00:01] <@WyzDM> to the team zenith youtube
18501[00:01] <@WyzDM> we'd go so big
18601[00:01] <@WyzDM> it wouldn't even be funny
187[00:01] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Assuming we can get the growth we're after
18801[00:01] <@WyzDM> I could probably pay for the fucking website with just that
189[00:01] <@[TZ]Rain> Hey, if ase can half ass shitty vids
19001[00:01] <@WyzDM> not to mention anything we want
191[00:01] <@[TZ]Rain> and get a thousand die hards
19201[00:01] <@WyzDM> ikr
193[00:01] <@[TZ]Rain> We can do better
194[00:01] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Looooooooooool
19501[00:01] <@WyzDM> loool
196[00:01] <@[TZ]Galeforce> asshat mcgee
19701[00:01] <@WyzDM> that kinda brings us to the next phase
198[00:01] <@[TZ]Rain> asehat
199[00:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> crush competition? lol
200[00:02] <+[TZ]DAZ> I can contribute on the organisational/tournament side of things
20101[00:02] <@WyzDM> instead of applications
202[00:02] <+[TZ]DAZ> i think that rounds it out nicely
20301[00:02] <@WyzDM> we look for the new sponsored
20401[00:02] <@WyzDM> we hand pick
20501[00:02] <@WyzDM> instead of from apps
20601[00:02] <@WyzDM> but from the field directly
207[00:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So basically what you're telling me
208[00:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Is that I'm about to get THE Zenith I've always wanted, from day one? 
20901[00:02] <@WyzDM> ...Yes
21001[00:02] <@WyzDM> Yes it is
211[00:03] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Fuck it why not. Let's go. 
212[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> It will take time
21301[00:03] <@WyzDM> some time sure
214[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> We need to put our best foot forward
215[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> but we can do it
216[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> We've been here a while
217[00:03] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So we still need a somewhat plan 
218[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> Surely we can invest this meager amount
21901[00:03] <@WyzDM> First thing on the plan
220[00:03] <@[TZ]Rain> To make this game better, hm?
22101[00:03] <@WyzDM> is site
22201[00:03] <@WyzDM> not the beauties
22301[00:03] <@WyzDM> but the structure
224[00:03] <@[TZ]Galeforce> How do we want to advertise this site? 
22501[00:03] <@WyzDM> we need more open forums, and fix the rankings of user
22601[00:04] <@WyzDM> That's easy
227[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> That comes next, I suppose.
22801[00:04] <@WyzDM> leave that to me ;)
229[00:04] <+[TZ]DAZ> Should we
230[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> Through content
231[00:04] <+[TZ]DAZ> completely dissect
23201[00:04] <@WyzDM> content
233[00:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Streams, your vids, my vids, rain's streams
234[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> Regular content and activity
235[00:04] <+[TZ]DAZ> the member system?
236[00:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> DAZ you're making videos now, congrats 
23701[00:04] <@WyzDM> and me uploading "FUCKING TEAM ZENITH IS PIMPED THE @#$% OUT!
238[00:04] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol gale
239[00:04] <+[TZ]DAZ> this is starting to sound like a plan
240[00:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> !
241[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> We need some goals
24201[00:04] <@WyzDM> the member system does not reflect what we want
243[00:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So what about the hiccups 
244[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> Not transient ones
24501[00:04] <@WyzDM> goal #1 for me
246[00:04] <@[TZ]Rain> Solid, written goals.
24701[00:04] <@WyzDM> is to fix forums
248[00:05] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We still have other clans out there that might bitch 
249[00:05] <@[TZ]Rain> How specifically wyz?
250[00:05] <@[TZ]Galeforce> that we've taken over 
251[00:05] <@[TZ]Rain> Be specific
252[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> @gale
253[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> we tell them
25401[00:05] <@WyzDM> I'll elborate
255[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> to fuck off
256[00:05] <@[TZ]Rain> In fact lets make a google doc with it
257[00:05] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Fuck it good enough
258[00:05] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll write this down and share it
25901[00:05] <@WyzDM> We're going to set it up very similar to SPP/TL
260[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> SPP"?
261[00:05] <@[TZ]Rain> gimme your emails ill share it
262[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> wtf is SPP
26301[00:05] <@WyzDM> SP stfu daz
264[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> oh
265[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> OH
266[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> thought you were talking about
267[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> a smash forum
26801[00:05] <@WyzDM> We're gonna have greetings
269[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> or something LOL
27001[00:05] <@WyzDM> lol
27101[00:05] <@WyzDM> and anouncements
272[00:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> I think TL is what we want to look like
27301[00:06] <@WyzDM> general shit
274[00:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Abreviations are fucking with my head
27501[00:06] <@WyzDM> alright, less abrevs.
276[00:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I WANNA MAKE THIS SHIT LOOK FANCY AF
27701[00:06] <@WyzDM> ;)
27801[00:06] <@WyzDM> afterwards
27901[00:06] <@WyzDM> Stick EMpires base
28001[00:06] <@WyzDM> I want lots of forums and sub forums
281[00:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ..later, other games base. 
282[00:06] <+[TZ]DAZ> of what?
283[00:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> profit
28401[00:06] <@WyzDM> One entire section for Stick War Campaign
28501[00:06] <@WyzDM> One for Stick War 2 Campaign
28601[00:07] <@WyzDM>  section for Stick Empires Multiplayer
287[00:07] <@[TZ]Galeforce> All this sounds great man, but we're thinking seriously big scale
288[00:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> SW campaign?
289[00:07] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I still think we need to CJ on board. 
290[00:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> SW2 campaign?
29101[00:07] <@WyzDM> CJ will not get on board
292[00:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> do you see how dead SP's forums on those are
293[00:07] <@[TZ]Rain> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GQWHElNOftrIDkaUTp3x3xvhjexpWMwv2TfbfrrDMRw/edit?usp=sharing
294[00:07] <@[TZ]Rain> here
29501[00:07] <@WyzDM> as cool as it would be
296[00:07] <@[TZ]Rain> Dont go sharing that
29701[00:07] <@WyzDM> it won't happen
29801[00:07] <@WyzDM> I like this
29901[00:08] <@WyzDM> Okay
30001[00:08] <@WyzDM> Can we move past google drive
30101[00:08] <@WyzDM> for 2 seconds
30201[00:09] <@WyzDM> rain
30301[00:09] <@WyzDM> halp
304[00:09] <@[TZ]Galeforce> This is fucking awesome
305[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> Lol
306[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> Regardless
307[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> That's what I wanted us to write in
308[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> So that we have the goals there
30901[00:09] <@WyzDM> okay
310[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> In front of os
31101[00:09] <@WyzDM> I like this
312[00:09] <@[TZ]Rain> So that we dont forget
31301[00:10] <@WyzDM> how can we make it so we know who is editing
31401[00:10] <@WyzDM> would really help
315[00:10] <+[TZ]DAZ> sign in
316[00:10] <+[TZ]DAZ> kek
317[00:10] <@[TZ]Galeforce> assume the stupid shit is mine
318[00:10] <@[TZ]Rain> There
319[00:10] <+[TZ]DAZ> yo
320[00:11] <@[TZ]Rain> WyzDM
32101[00:11] <@WyzDM> Me
322[00:11] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I got my FUCK THE PO in 
323[00:11] <@[TZ]Rain> You know by signing in
324[00:11] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I don't have access anymore though
325[00:11] <@[TZ]Rain> And marking what you say
32601[00:11] <@WyzDM> I am signed in through email
327[00:11] <@[TZ]Rain> What are your google accounts?
328[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> i'm signed in
329[00:11] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll share directly
330[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> via tzx's
331[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> account
332[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> just put it on the tz youtube email
333[00:11] <@[TZ]Galeforce> How do I sign in? 
33401[00:11] <@WyzDM> I am wyzdm.tz
335[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> i like sit on it now lol
33601[00:11] <@WyzDM> @gmail.com
337[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFKtYCcMWT4
338[00:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> tzxparallax@gmail.com
339[00:12] <+[TZ]DAZ> just throw that
340[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> [TZ]Galeforce
341[00:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Why do we need email? 
342[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> ?
343[00:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I'm trying to figure it out. 
344[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> so that you can sign in on the sheet
345[00:12] <+[TZ]DAZ> google
346[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> and we know whos saying what
347[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> and so I dont have to do
348[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> "anyone with link can edit"
349[00:12] <@[TZ]Rain> incase its leaked
350[00:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Galeforce515@gmail.com
35101[00:12] <@WyzDM> ^
352[00:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I do believe that's what my YT is linked to
35301[00:13] <@WyzDM> mine as well
354[00:13] <@[TZ]Rain> Good.
355[00:13] <@[TZ]Rain> Sign in
356[00:13] <@[TZ]Rain> and refresh
357[00:13] <@[TZ]Rain> then we can tell whos who on the sheet
35801[00:15] <@WyzDM> okay rain wanna lock this up
359[00:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> okay
360[00:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> let's use irc
361[00:15] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Don't lock it
362[00:16] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Just move onto IRC
363[00:16] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Rain is still talking on docu
364[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> ^^qft
365[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> we should get roles sussed
366[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> and get this initiative rolling
36701[00:16] <@WyzDM> That's what we were doing
36801[00:16] <@WyzDM> before hell broke loose
369[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> p.s.
370[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> wyzdm
371[00:16] <@[TZ]Rain> Sorry lol.
37201[00:16] <@WyzDM> I talked about changing the forums
373[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> you can
374[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> put wild mtournaemnt
375[00:16] <+[TZ]DAZ> iunto zenith open infrastructure
37601[00:16] <@WyzDM> that would be great
377[00:16] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Yeah, thi sis pretty cool though. I didn't know it was a thing.
378[00:17] <@[TZ]Rain> Wild tournament is just spot tourneys though
37901[00:17] <@WyzDM> True, but if we had
380[00:17] <@[TZ]Rain> To have it in a structured day-set format
381[00:17] <@[TZ]Rain> defeats the purpose
38201[00:17] <@WyzDM> not just me setting them up
38301[00:17] <@WyzDM> and we had players idling there
384[00:17] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Random tourneys every day are cool though.
38501[00:17] <@WyzDM> on the regular
386[00:17] <@[TZ]Rain> yeah
387[00:17] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Keeps players active 
38801[00:17] <@WyzDM> it would be amazing
38901[00:17] <@WyzDM> Wait
39001[00:17] <@WyzDM> we could do this
39101[00:17] <@WyzDM> very simple
39201[00:18] <@WyzDM> ...We could register #stick-empires
393[00:18] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Was thinking IRC
394[00:18] <@[TZ]Galeforce> But we still have to get players INTO the IRC
39501[00:18] <@WyzDM> been doing that for 2 weeks
39601[00:18] <@WyzDM> very few problems
397[00:18] <+[TZ]DAZ> no i mean
39801[00:18] <@WyzDM> it also removes the ID ten tee errors
399[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> Well
400[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> Active idlers in IRC
401[00:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> simply re-work zenith open\
402[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> and people just in IRC for a tounrey
403[00:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> as the name the tourneys log under
404[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> is different
405[00:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> you can put in strucuted say once a week
406[00:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> or just do spot tourneys with it
407[00:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> but the infrastructure is ther
408[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> people don't seem to understand that you idle in the IRC
409[00:19] <@[TZ]Rain> Rather than it just being like omeagle or soemthing
41001[00:20] <@WyzDM> We'll change that when it's more inviting
41101[00:20] <@WyzDM> I have a lot of influence
41201[00:20] <@WyzDM> If I told someone on SE I was in the chat room
41301[00:20] <@WyzDM> and put in lobby
414[00:20] <@[TZ]Rain> Gale brought up something to me in PM
415[00:20] <@[TZ]Rain> we could do like pokemonshowdown or some other sites
41601[00:20] <@WyzDM> hey guys you can join me at *insert switft irc link*
417[00:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> They hold many, many IRC's at once.
418[00:20] <@[TZ]Rain> Integrated IRC with autotournaments
419[00:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Each with a different topic. 
42001[00:20] <@WyzDM> They do?
421[00:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ^
422[00:20] <@[TZ]Rain> "tours" they call them
42301[00:20] <@WyzDM> How
42401[00:21] <@WyzDM> wait
42501[00:21] <@WyzDM> auto tourneys in irc
426[00:21] <@[TZ]Rain> You'd have to ask their staff, I guess. lol
42701[00:21] <@WyzDM> z0mg that sounds amazing
428[00:21] <@[TZ]Galeforce> http://play.pokemonshowdown.com/
429[00:21] <@[TZ]Rain> Yeeeaaah
430[00:21] <@[TZ]Rain> go to the tournaments room
431[00:21] <@[TZ]Rain> its all day
432[00:21] <@[TZ]Rain> Something like that is great for activity
433[00:21] <@[TZ]Galeforce> As long as they have someone op'ed they usually go smooth. 
434[00:22] <@[TZ]Rain> They have specialized infastructure for it onsite I believe though
435[00:22] <@[TZ]Rain> We don't need something quite that lavish for now
436[00:22] <@[TZ]Rain> But as stated before - something SIMILAR would be great.
437[00:22] <@[TZ]Rain> In general we need to spruce up the IRC
438[00:23] <@[TZ]Rain> and make it more accessable
43901[00:23] <@WyzDM> Yes
440[00:23] <@[TZ]Rain> That comes with the site adjustment though
441[00:23] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll put it on the list as a subpoint
44201[00:23] <@WyzDM> I can look into the scripting I suppose
44301[00:23] <@WyzDM> but for right now
44401[00:23] <@WyzDM> I want to tackle the forums
44501[00:23] <@WyzDM> and the user management
446[00:23] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I just don't see forums as the way to go
44701[00:23] <@WyzDM> They're important to have
44801[00:24] <@WyzDM> I mean, the SE section of SP isn't that active
449[00:24] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Important, yes. But I don't think they should be the centerpoint. 
45001[00:24] <@WyzDM> but remember when
45101[00:24] <@WyzDM> we had amazing forums
45201[00:24] <@WyzDM> it's nto center point, true
453[00:24] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Yeah you killed it. lol. 
45401[00:24] <@WyzDM> but again
45501[00:24] <@WyzDM> wait
45601[00:24] <@WyzDM> I killed it
45701[00:24] <@WyzDM> what
458[00:24] <+[TZ]DAZ> hmm
459[00:24] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Spam Kingdom made forum activity spike
46001[00:24] <@WyzDM> I didn't do that actually
461[00:24] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ..Who did then? lol.
46201[00:24] <@WyzDM> you can thank someone else for making that
46301[00:25] <@WyzDM> I haven't touched the site layout in over a year
464[00:25] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Beside the point. Anyway
46501[00:25] <@WyzDM> :\
466[00:25] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Rain is working on the document. 
46701[00:26] <@WyzDM> Well let's address what we need to help
468[00:26] <@[TZ]Rain> Yeah forums are very very important
46901[00:26] <@WyzDM> we first need to attract
470[00:26] <@[TZ]Rain> People often underestimate how much an active forums helps spur growth
47101[00:26] <@WyzDM> as many people as popular to come to the site
47201[00:26] <@WyzDM> yeah
473[00:26] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Okay, so if CJ doesn't want to get on board, at least maybe he'll help advertise. 
474[00:26] <@[TZ]Rain> If people are seeing "hey this community is active"
475[00:26] <@[TZ]Rain> its pretty jive
47601[00:26] <@WyzDM> forums are a great stimulus
47701[00:26] <@WyzDM> I would just keep CJ out of the picture. He's a dev
47801[00:26] <@WyzDM> but he's not getting intertwined
479[00:26] <@[TZ]Galeforce> With an influence though
48001[00:27] <@WyzDM> It would be amazing
48101[00:27] <@WyzDM> but first
482[00:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I don't care about what he does, I just want him to advertise our game
483[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> We don't want CJ intertwined necesarily either
484[00:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> our idea*
48501[00:27] <@WyzDM> we need to do this bootleg
486[00:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> sorry
487[00:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> i'll read up in a mo
48801[00:27] <@WyzDM> yeah tbh
489[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> If we gave him the ability to 
490[00:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> and make a proper comment
491[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> Pay for us
49201[00:27] <@WyzDM> last time CJ tried to uh
493[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> or advert us
49401[00:27] <@WyzDM> TO with me
495[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> he'd want to have decision making power
49601[00:27] <@WyzDM> he made that awful call
497[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> and thats not what we wantr
49801[00:27] <@WyzDM> lol
499[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> If we're gonna do this
500[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> we need to do it right
501[00:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Like I said, I don't want him involved in any means, other than advertising our idea front page of Stick Empires.
502[00:27] <@[TZ]Rain> and we need to advertise the right way
503[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> Think like the SE wiki
504[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> He saw it was a nice project run by competent people
505[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> so he linked it
506[00:28] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol
507[00:28] <+[TZ]DAZ> shots
508[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> Likewise when our site becomes populare
509[00:28] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Exactly what I'm suggesting 
510[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> and we show its run by competent people
511[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> He may link it in place of the forums
512[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> we can't just force him to do it though
513[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> It wouldn't work
514[00:28] <@[TZ]Rain> especially not with the site
515[00:29] <@[TZ]Rain> in the state its in curtrently
516[00:29] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Of course not
517[00:29] <@[TZ]Rain> Right
518[00:29] <@[TZ]Galeforce> This is just the solution to tackle advertisement once we get things moving. 
519[00:29] <+[TZ]DAZ> need to read properly
520[00:29] <+[TZ]DAZ> but CJ shouldn't stay involved
521[00:29] <+[TZ]DAZ> directly
522[00:30] <+[TZ]DAZ> it'd be nice if he posts there
523[00:30] <@[TZ]Galeforce> All I'd want him for is to influence and draw more players. 
52401[00:30] <@WyzDM> that will happen
52501[00:30] <@WyzDM> when we blow up
52601[00:30] <@WyzDM> Se blows up
527[00:30] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Don't want him doing shit otherwise 
52801[00:30] <@WyzDM> and the relationship is beneficial
52901[00:30] <@WyzDM> right now, it doesn't nothing
53001[00:30] <@WyzDM> think of it like youtube promoting
53101[00:30] <@WyzDM> you have to get big
53201[00:30] <@WyzDM> before youtube says "hey get bigger"
533[00:32] <@[TZ]Rain> Once we've crossed that threshold
534[00:32] <@[TZ]Rain> we know our plan has come into motion fully
535[00:32] <@[TZ]Rain> the only thing left to do then is keep running
536[00:32] <@[TZ]Rain> but for now, just baby steps
537[00:32] <@[TZ]Galeforce> baby steps
53801[00:32] <@WyzDM> I'ma baby step the shit out of the office
53901[00:32] <@WyzDM> baby step the shit outa the elevator
54001[00:33] <@WyzDM> and baby step my wall all through those mother fucking forums
54101[00:33] <@WyzDM> *my way
542[00:33] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So we're all in on this, it would seem.
543[00:33] <@[TZ]Galeforce> How many others do we want involved? 
544[00:34] <+[TZ]DAZ> Zomar?
545[00:34] <@[TZ]Rain> Zomar, maybe spino
546[00:35] <@[TZ]Rain> The regulars here that have been active for a year+
547[00:35] <@[TZ]Rain> once we get the groundwork going we can include more people
54801[00:35] <@WyzDM> Myself and Rain are Owners
549[00:35] <@[TZ]Rain> but for now we just want our trusted few to be wokring close in
550[00:35] <@[TZ]Galeforce> meh? Gonna dip me out like that? :/ 
551[00:36] <@[TZ]Rain> Well WyzDM and I control our funding
55201[00:36] <@WyzDM> DAZ, Zomar, Galeforce, Skeletonwarlord, Spino, jli, Terry, lvl, and jude
55301[00:36] <@WyzDM> well
554[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> skeles good
55501[00:36] <@WyzDM> we need ot break that up
556[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> esp since he worked on wiki
557[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> and lvl?
558[00:36] <@[TZ]Rain> Though you've been our leader since the beginning
559[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> lvl 9001?
56001[00:36] <@WyzDM> DAZthe first 5
561[00:36] <@[TZ]Rain> I could say we'd have a case for gale as leader
56201[00:36] <@WyzDM> the 4 of us honestly
563[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol
564[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> discussing this while gale is here
56501[00:36] <@WyzDM> as lond as you don't fucking touch the forums ever again daz
56601[00:36] <@WyzDM> *long
567[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> ??
56801[00:36] <@WyzDM> <3 you
569[00:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> why
570[00:36] <@[TZ]Rain> Well what? We're not saying anything bad daz
571[00:36] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Doesn't bother me any
572[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> what did i do
57301[00:37] <@WyzDM> oh nothing
574[00:37] <@[TZ]Rain> JUST GOT RIF OF A YEARS WORTH OF LEGACY THREADS
575[00:37] <@[TZ]Rain> FFS
57601[00:37] <@WyzDM> ^
577[00:37] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So.. that leaves DAZ who deleted SK? 
578[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> i didn't
579[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> wtf
580[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> i didn't delete anything
581[00:37] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Someone's catching some salt 
582[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> LOL
583[00:37] <@[TZ]Rain> Well, whatever
584[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> nice job wyz
585[00:37] <@[TZ]Rain> its in the past
586[00:37] <+[TZ]DAZ> deleting SK kek
58701[00:38] <@WyzDM> anyway
58801[00:39] <@WyzDM> I'll be the forum manager
58901[00:39] <@WyzDM> have you three decided on anything?
590[00:39] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I don't mind TO'ing. 
591[00:39] <+[TZ]DAZ> tourney exp
592[00:39] <+[TZ]DAZ> and pr
593[00:39] <@[TZ]Galeforce> And can help site development. 
59401[00:40] <@WyzDM> Toing right now isn't an issue
59501[00:40] <@WyzDM> we're trying to work on the site
59601[00:40] <@WyzDM> once the website is top notch
59701[00:41] <@WyzDM> ...that's when we do the three P
59801[00:41] <@WyzDM> *ps
599[00:41] <+[TZ]DAZ> three Ps
600[00:41] <+[TZ]DAZ> which is
601[00:41] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I can help with that, quite a lot tbh. 
60201[00:41] <@WyzDM> Produce, Promote, Populate
603[00:41] <@[TZ]Rain> Eh, I can't really say I could help with anything specific any more than you three coukd
604[00:41] <@[TZ]Rain> Abstract ideas, maybe.
605[00:42] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I can promote. I'm gaining a bit of a foothold with active players watching my channel.
606[00:42] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Still not as big as yours, WyzDM.
60701[00:42] <@WyzDM> It's more than our channels
60801[00:42] <@WyzDM> We need to have a plan
609[00:42] <@[TZ]Rain> See that's player centric
61001[00:42] <@WyzDM> that all of us, once a week at least
611[00:42] <@[TZ]Rain> What we want is team centric
612[00:42] <@[TZ]Rain> We ARE team zenith
61301[00:43] <@WyzDM> have some kind of production to the Team zenith channel
614[00:43] <@[TZ]Galeforce> What kind of content are you wanting on the channel?
615[00:43] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Weekly recaps? 
616[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> We need to just keep pushing out content at a regular scedule
617[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> Tourney vods
618[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> guides
619[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> Breakdowns
620[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> Fun stuff too, maybe
621[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> But the importnat thing is-
622[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> Consistency
623[00:43] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I am gonna say though 
624[00:43] <@[TZ]Rain> "New uploads every x at y"
625[00:43] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Uploading and editing is a pain to do
626[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> You gotta just mass upload
627[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> and set it to upload at a scheduled time
628[00:44] <+[TZ]DAZ> don't mass upload
629[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> that way
630[00:44] <+[TZ]DAZ> too often
631[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> no no
632[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> Dont RELEASE it all at once
633[00:44] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ANd space it out
634[00:44] <+[TZ]DAZ> or subscribers "burnout"
635[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> thats not consistent
636[00:44] <+[TZ]DAZ> as in YT burns them out
637[00:44] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ^
638[00:44] <+[TZ]DAZ> once every few days/week is good
639[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> Like I said daz
640[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> CONSISTENCY
641[00:44] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Youtube has an auto feature that releases vids at a set time
642[00:44] <@[TZ]Rain> MAss upload them but dont make them public
64301[00:45] <@WyzDM> Yes Gale
64401[00:45] <@WyzDM> thank you for saying that
64501[00:45] <@WyzDM> I noticed that the other day
64601[00:45] <@WyzDM> thinking of using it for myself
647[00:45] <@[TZ]Rain> I've heard from a few guys that
648[00:45] <@[TZ]Rain> Uploading consistently at set times helps growth
649[00:45] <@[TZ]Rain> as people know when to expect uploads
650[00:45] <+[TZ]DAZ> okay reading everything up
651[00:46] <@[TZ]Rain> If we can get those consistent uploads
652[00:46] <@[TZ]Rain> we can get consistent growth
653[00:46] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ^
654[00:46] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Rain nailed it
65501[00:46] <@WyzDM> I like this
656[00:46] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I'm soon going to be uploading at noon every day. 
657[00:46] <@[TZ]Rain> Every day?
658[00:46] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Pops up in everyone's feed during the day 
65901[00:46] <@WyzDM> Save 1 upload for zenith
66001[00:46] <@WyzDM> :P
661[00:46] <@[TZ]Rain> In fact
66201[00:46] <@WyzDM> I'll also upload something to zenith
663[00:46] <@[TZ]Rain> Make a couple videos
66401[00:46] <@WyzDM> I'm thinking of doing match analysis
665[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> "This video is hosted on the Team Zenith channel!"
666[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> Like for collabs
667[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> and shit
668[00:47] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I would still like to continue the growth of my own channel though.
669[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> Of course
670[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> But alongside your own intro
671[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> Try and add something Zenithy
672[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> We want the viewers curious
673[00:47] <+[TZ]DAZ> okay
674[00:47] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Yeah could do that if Wyz would like to supply that
675[00:47] <+[TZ]DAZ> read up
676[00:47] <@[TZ]Rain> "Gee whats this Zenith?"
677[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> @Gale
678[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> don't do daily
679[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> do say every 2 days
680[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> it works better
681[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> "Must be pretty cool if this cool guy is doing it"
682[00:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> i'll do daily if I want lol.
683[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> no i'm serious
684[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> if you oversaturate content
685[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> Daily can lead to sub burnout
686[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> people won't watch all of it
687[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> ^^qft
688[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> Subs will literally
689[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> not see you have new videos
690[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> anymore
691[00:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Idk man. I watch some Youtubers consistently 
692[00:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> every day 
693[00:48] <@[TZ]Galeforce> and I almost feel left out if I don't see a vid from them
694[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> No -
695[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> This is an issue of youtube itself
696[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> not showing the videos
697[00:48] <@[TZ]Rain> in sub boxes
698[00:48] <+[TZ]DAZ> yeah
699[00:49] <@[TZ]Rain> because rate of upload is too frequent
70001[00:49] <@WyzDM> youtube subscription system sucks
70101[00:49] <@WyzDM> ass
702[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> besides, if you upload less
703[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> less, but consistently
704[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> people WANT more content
705[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> they won't go
706[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> "damn, there's too much"
707[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> and backlog all that
708[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> and then end up never watching it
709[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> come on, how many have "watch later" videos
710[00:49] <+[TZ]DAZ> they never get around to watching
711[00:49] <@[TZ]Rain> I have 500+ tbh
712[00:49] <@[TZ]Rain> Lol
713[00:50] <+[TZ]DAZ> lool
714[00:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I have
715[00:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> none
716[00:50] <+[TZ]DAZ> point proven
717[00:50] <@[TZ]Rain> Anyway
718[00:50] <@[TZ]Rain> Back onto the topic at hand
719[00:50] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Side note, almost at $5 on my channel.
720[00:50] <@[TZ]Rain> consistent content on the clan channels
721[00:50] <@[TZ]Rain> as well as our own
722[00:50] <@[TZ]Rain> Will help us to grow
72301[00:51] <@WyzDM> Galeforce
72401[00:51] <@WyzDM> I have a request
725[00:51] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ?
72601[00:51] <@WyzDM> you're a boss at making stuff like pngs
727[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> ?
728[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> mm
729[00:51] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So I've been told
730[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> i think
73101[00:51] <@WyzDM> We could use png symbols for fourms/users
732[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> ethan's better than gale
733[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> should we get ethan on board?
73401[00:51] <@WyzDM> daz stuf
73501[00:51] <@WyzDM> lmfao
73601[00:51] <@WyzDM> *stfu
737[00:51] <@[TZ]Galeforce> oh okay you guys can use him
738[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> okay
739[00:51] <+[TZ]DAZ> but seriously
740[00:52] <+[TZ]DAZ> could we get TL flairs
74101[00:52] <@WyzDM> ...
742[00:52] <+[TZ]DAZ> that would be sickkk
74301[00:52] <@WyzDM> Galeforce what i'm asking right
744[00:52] <+[TZ]DAZ> maybe O/C/E
745[00:52] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Abbreviations killing me again
74601[00:52] <@WyzDM> is PNG images
74701[00:52] <@WyzDM> that would say the following
748[00:52] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I still have playercard templates in the back man
74901[00:53] <@WyzDM> "member" "premium member" "Sponsored" (team zenith logo somewhere) and "Owner"
75001[00:53] <@WyzDM> just forum sized kinda things
751[00:53] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I see
752[00:53] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Could use the same font enjin uses if you want
753[00:53] <+[TZ]DAZ> Do we want badges
754[00:53] <+[TZ]DAZ> in a community website?
75501[00:54] <@WyzDM> Tournament badges
75601[00:54] <@WyzDM> good rewards
75701[00:54] <@WyzDM> :)
758[00:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> hmm
759[00:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We'll get to that.
760[00:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We have to build the site first.
76101[00:54] <@WyzDM> Yes
762[00:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> so 
76301[00:54] <@WyzDM> We're pretty much revamping this site
764[00:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> what do we want to keep
765[00:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> on our current site
766[00:54] <+[TZ]DAZ> and what do we want to remove
767[00:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> the goddamn red and black scheme 
768[00:54] <@[TZ]Rain> Event callendar is a good thing
769[00:54] <@[TZ]Galeforce> be gone with it
770[00:54] <@[TZ]Rain> Yessss
771[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> its also very foreboding
772[00:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> yeah, i'll keep event calendar locked and loade
773[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> toward new users
774[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> Not open 
77501[00:55] <@WyzDM> ...does anyone like snowy mountain tops?
776[00:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> what do we suggest
777[00:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> for a new colour scheme?
778[00:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> SP-esque?
779[00:55] <+[TZ]DAZ> like the new SP version?
780[00:55] <@[TZ]Galeforce> yet again, we'll get to that
781[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> tl esque
782[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> more like
783[00:55] <@[TZ]Galeforce> these are minor details
784[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> yeah we cant be bikeshedding already
785[00:55] <@[TZ]Rain> lol
78601[00:55] <@WyzDM> http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/114/f/d/team_zenith_by_element_arrow-d7fv8ku.swf
78701[00:56] <@WyzDM> Hi
788[00:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> ..ehh..
789[00:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> can we not
790[00:56] <@[TZ]Rain> its alright
791[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> yeah
792[00:56] <@[TZ]Rain> but we want something
793[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> let's not
794[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> snowy mountain
795[00:56] <@[TZ]Rain> -Easily recognizable
796[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> i think we need something iconic
797[00:56] <@[TZ]Rain> -Brandable
798[00:56] <@[TZ]Rain> -Simple
799[00:56] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I can do something nice. 
800[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> reminds me of
801[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> NZ flag discussion lol
80201[00:56] <@WyzDM> alright
803[00:56] <+[TZ]DAZ> we're having a flag referendum
804[00:57] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I've been holding back from you guys for nearly 3 years
805[00:57] <+[TZ]DAZ> and there's so much bullshit being thrown out
806[00:57] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I can do some rather interesting things
807[00:57] <+[TZ]DAZ> oh?
80801[00:57] <@WyzDM> If there was ever a time
80901[00:58] <@WyzDM> to bring all the cards to the table
81001[00:58] <@WyzDM> this is the time
811[00:58] <@[TZ]Galeforce> this card is like the ace in 21
812[00:58] <@[TZ]Galeforce> either fucks ya or it doesn't
813[00:58] <@[TZ]Rain> heh
814[00:58] <@[TZ]Rain> either the value highest or least
815[00:58] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol
81601[00:59] <@WyzDM> 5 cards insta win tho
817[00:59] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I'll have to start practicing again
818[00:59] <@[TZ]Rain> Remember
819[00:59] <@[TZ]Rain> Simple, Memorable.
820[00:59] <@[TZ]Rain> Overly complex logos arent remembered
821[00:59] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We need a logo
822[00:59] <@[TZ]Galeforce> that isn't just a simple fuckin Z
823[01:00] <@[TZ]Rain> Something we can put everywhere
824[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> You know how hard that is 
825[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Z
82601[01:00] <@WyzDM> Rise to the Top is our motto
827[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Bigger Z
828[01:00] <@[TZ]Rain> Like Team Liquid's horsehead
82901[01:00] <@WyzDM> I thought
830[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Oh let's slant this Z
83101[01:00] <@WyzDM> TZ
83201[01:00] <@WyzDM> was our logo
833[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> no it's awful
83401[01:00] <@WyzDM> oh.
835[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> we need an ACTUAL logo
83601[01:00] <@WyzDM> ... I kinda liked it...
837[01:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol?
838[01:00] <@[TZ]Rain> Its not bad
839[01:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> not as a logo
840[01:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> though
841[01:00] <@[TZ]Rain> its just not memorable
84201[01:00] <@WyzDM> ;.;
843[01:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> it's not memorable
844[01:00] <+[TZ]DAZ> exactly
845[01:00] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I'm man enough to admit that I do not have the graphic skills adequate enough to create a decent one
846[01:01] <+[TZ]DAZ> a logo doesn't have to be complex
847[01:01] <+[TZ]DAZ> but it needs to be designed
848[01:01] <+[TZ]DAZ> exquisitely
84901[01:01] <@WyzDM> Well I'm man enough to admit that I have the paper to pay for one
850[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> Once again
851[01:01] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Good enough
852[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> We're bikeshedding a bit
853[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> New theme for the site
854[01:01] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We do need a new logo though. That's been a task that needed to be tackled for a while.
855[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> logo, banners, etc is good
856[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> A consistent logo is verrrry good
857[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> because we can plater it everywhere
858[01:01] <@[TZ]Rain> twitch, yt, forums
859[01:02] <@[TZ]Rain> and people will know it
860[01:02] <@[TZ]Rain> have it resonate
861[01:02] <@[TZ]Rain> "this is what zenith is about"
86201[01:02] <@WyzDM> Well then if we're getting a new logo
86301[01:02] <@WyzDM> I need to know only one thing
86401[01:02] <@WyzDM> are we keeping red and black for colors
865[01:02] <@[TZ]Rain> No
866[01:02] <@[TZ]Rain> absolutely not
86701[01:02] <@WyzDM> Okay
86801[01:02] <@WyzDM> What colors?
869[01:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I want a color-neutral theme 
87001[01:02] <@WyzDM> wait
871[01:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> black or white
87201[01:02] <@WyzDM> ...what about
87301[01:02] <@WyzDM> a spearton shield
87401[01:02] <@WyzDM> I mean we used one in the ty intro
875[01:02] <@[TZ]Galeforce> no
87601[01:02] <@WyzDM> *yt
877[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> Its for visual effect
878[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> its not particularly memorable
879[01:03] <+[TZ]DAZ> i don't want anything
880[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> Something that fits our theme
881[01:03] <+[TZ]DAZ> to do with black imo
882[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> A bird?
883[01:03] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Decent logo, example 
884[01:03] <@[TZ]Galeforce> http://www.naruto-arena.com/images/avatars/uploaded/4476256.jpg
885[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> To be soaring 
886[01:03] <@[TZ]Rain> rising
887[01:04] <@[TZ]Rain> to the top, and such
888[01:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> the symbol in the left
88901[01:04] <@WyzDM> um
890[01:04] <@[TZ]Rain> Its just a symbol we want to be associated 
891[01:04] <@[TZ]Rain> with the team
892[01:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Exactly 
893[01:04] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Not something specifically from the game
894[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> Think like KFC for a second
89501[01:05] <@WyzDM> We still want the name team zenith right?
896[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> Some pasty ass white guy has nothing to do with chicken
897[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> But it is associated closely with it
898[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> because its simple and consistent
899[01:05] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Drop the Team
900[01:05] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Let's just be Zenith
901[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> I could argue that Team Zenith sounds better
902[01:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> oh?
903[01:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> TZ
904[01:05] <+[TZ]DAZ> I prefer TZ
905[01:05] <@[TZ]Rain> But just 
90601[01:06] <@WyzDM> Team Zenith is something I've come to like
907[01:06] <@[TZ]Rain> "Zenith" sounds more concise
908[01:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Zenith has a better taste 
909[01:06] <@[TZ]Rain> it doesnt really demonstrate though
910[01:06] <@[TZ]Rain> That its a group
91101[01:06] <@WyzDM> We call ourselves zenith for short anyway
912[01:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Zenith Sponsored Players 
913[01:06] <@[TZ]Rain> a collaborative effort
91401[01:06] <@WyzDM> we could could just keep it that
915[01:06] <@[TZ]Rain> hmmph
916[01:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Another logo I really like, is this. It's simple, but works 
917[01:06] <@[TZ]Galeforce> http://i61.tinypic.com/35jff3q.jpg
918[01:07] <@[TZ]Rain> I suppose
919[01:07] <@[TZ]Rain> that if we want it to be more of a community site
920[01:07] <@[TZ]Rain> To have it be "team" zenith is a bit more restrictive
921[01:07] <@[TZ]Rain> at least, ostensibly
922[01:07] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I'd be okay with stealing that logo tbh lmao
923[01:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> let's look at the most iconic community sites
924[01:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> what
925[01:07] <+[TZ]DAZ> TL?
926[01:08] <+[TZ]DAZ> Reddit?
927[01:08] <@[TZ]Rain> I dunno
928[01:08] <@[TZ]Rain> Team Liquid as a brand was a lot more established than we are at the moment
929[01:08] <@[TZ]Rain> I feel like keeping the "Team" branding would be a bit archiac
930[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> In an era without many "teams" or "clans"
931[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> On the other hand
932[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> Having "Team" being not just within our ethos but within the name itself
933[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> helps show that we are a group of players
934[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> idk
935[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> What do you guys think
936[01:09] <@[TZ]Rain> Keep it, or no?
937[01:09] <+[TZ]DAZ> http://www.zenith.com/
938[01:09] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We could have Zenith
939[01:10] <+[TZ]DAZ> ?
940[01:10] <@[TZ]Galeforce> And have our sponsored players be Team Zenith
941[01:10] <@[TZ]Galeforce> best of both worlds
942[01:10] <@[TZ]Rain> hmm
943[01:10] <@[TZ]Rain> [TZ]DAZ WyzDM
944[01:10] <@[TZ]Rain> thoughts
945[01:10] <@[TZ]Rain> |?
946[01:10] <+[TZ]DAZ> ?
947[01:11] <+[TZ]DAZ> that's actually an interesting idea
94801[01:12] <@WyzDM> back
94901[01:12] <@WyzDM> thinking
950[01:12] <@[TZ]Rain> ead up
951[01:12] <@[TZ]Rain> read*
952[01:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So I may
953[01:12] <@[TZ]Galeforce> have just made us a simple logo
954[01:12] <@[TZ]Rain> oh?
95501[01:13] <@WyzDM> one issue about changing the name to zenith: the domain'
956[01:13] <@[TZ]Galeforce> If you look at a triangle, how do you typically decipher it, I suppose. 
95701[01:13] <@WyzDM> I'd have to get a new domain
95801[01:13] <@WyzDM> and that's expensive as hell right now
959[01:13] <@[TZ]Galeforce> A base and a point, right? 
96001[01:13] <@WyzDM> zenith is already used in a domain
961[01:13] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Or an equal bases, that works on all sides
96201[01:13] <@WyzDM> and we already have rights to team zenith
963[01:13] <@[TZ]Galeforce> keep the domain, no big deal
964[01:13] <+[TZ]DAZ> ^^
965[01:13] <+[TZ]DAZ> we don't want to
966[01:14] <+[TZ]DAZ> re-link all our stuff
967[01:14] <+[TZ]DAZ> to another URL anyway
96801[01:14] <@WyzDM> we don't
969[01:14] <@[TZ]Rain> Then, for now
970[01:14] <@[TZ]Rain> We keep Team Zenith branding
971[01:14] <@[TZ]Rain> Seems simple enough
972[01:14] <+[TZ]DAZ> mm
973[01:14] <+[TZ]DAZ> should we consider
974[01:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> what we want to remain oin the site?
975[01:15] <@[TZ]Rain> Legacy forums
976[01:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> Event Calendar, Upcoming events should be staples
977[01:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> i think
978[01:15] <@[TZ]Galeforce> So are we becoming Zenith with our sponsored being Team Zenith? 
979[01:15] <@[TZ]Rain> but we mostly want it to be a hell of a lot cleaner
980[01:15] <@[TZ]Rain> what we have now is so clunky
981[01:15] <@[TZ]Galeforce> The URL doesn't matter imo.
982[01:15] <+[TZ]DAZ> should we restructure latest threads?
983[01:15] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Hell Nissan dealership doesn't even own nissan.com 
984[01:15] <@[TZ]Galeforce> I say we do away with Enjin completely if that's an option
985[01:15] <@[TZ]Rain> steam doesnt own http://www.steam.com
986[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> lol
987[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> ...yes enjin is a bit restrictive
98801[01:16] <@WyzDM> as cool as it would be to leave enjin
989[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> If we could hire someone to code up a new site
99001[01:16] <@WyzDM> I don't know where else to go
991[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> I'd do it in a heartbeat
992[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> but
993[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> Wait
994[01:16] <@[TZ]Galeforce> We could look into it.
995[01:16] <@[TZ]Galeforce> No hurry yet
996[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> Ben knows how to mess with enjin shit
997[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> he did all hsi weeb stuff
99801[01:16] <@WyzDM> I thought
999[01:16] <@[TZ]Rain> We could consult him about it
100001[01:16] <@WyzDM> he got someone to do that
1001[01:17] <@[TZ]Rain> hmm...
100201[01:17] <@WyzDM> 99% sure he did
100301[01:17] <@WyzDM> someone else did it
1004[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> it was
1005[01:17] <@[TZ]Galeforce> There's plenty of websites we can use
1006[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> reaver
1007[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> i think
1008[01:17] <@[TZ]Rain> we could ask him to share some contacts, then
1009[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> but if we stay on enjin
1010[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> we remain contact with ET and other shared clans atm
1011[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> what are they going to do
1012[01:17] <+[TZ]DAZ> when we announce this
1013[01:17] <@[TZ]Rain> Best case scenario
1014[01:17] <@[TZ]Rain> We get our own website structured
1015[01:17] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Like you said
1016[01:17] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Tell them fuck off
1017[01:17] <@[TZ]Rain> and we use like vbulletin forums or something
101801[01:17] <@WyzDM> ET isn't a clan. it's a skype group
101901[01:18] <@WyzDM> I like that Rain
1020[01:18] <@[TZ]Rain> A skype group that has literal group masterbation
1021[01:18] <@[TZ]Rain> And spammed ass forums
1022[01:18] <@[TZ]Rain> I'd like that to remain as far away from us as possible
1023[01:18] <@[TZ]Rain> even max dislikes new ET
102401[01:18] <@WyzDM> well I don't have much time to put a lot of work int osite design, that's my only issue
1025[01:18] <@[TZ]Rain> that says something
102601[01:18] <@WyzDM> so if we got a new site build up
102701[01:18] <@WyzDM> someone else would need to do it. I can manage the forums
102801[01:19] <@WyzDM> but that's all I can really do
1029[01:19] <@[TZ]Rain> hmm
1030[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> lol
1031[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> ET dislikes it?
1032[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> *max
1033[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> lmao
103401[01:19] <@WyzDM> however
103501[01:19] <@WyzDM> I will totally pay for someone
103601[01:19] <@WyzDM> to give us an awesome job
1037[01:19] <@[TZ]Galeforce> meh? http://i.imgur.com/qOqiRiX.png
103801[01:19] <@WyzDM> thing is I hear that goes for a lot
1039[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> wtf
1040[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> does that
1041[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> stand for
1042[01:19] <+[TZ]DAZ> gale
1043[01:19] <@[TZ]Galeforce> looks like mountains 
1044[01:19] <@[TZ]Rain> Kinda
1045[01:20] <+[TZ]DAZ> ..
1046[01:20] <+[TZ]DAZ> are you serious
1047[01:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> rough drafting it quite hard 
1048[01:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Talk shit won't make another one
1049[01:20] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Choose your words
1050[01:20] <+[TZ]DAZ> well why do we need mountains?
1051[01:20] <@[TZ]Rain> Yeah WyzDM professional website design is hefty price
105201[01:20] <@WyzDM> guys
1053[01:20] <@[TZ]Rain> However
1054[01:20] <@[TZ]Rain> Website management trhough coding
105501[01:20] <@WyzDM> Rain you have contacts?
1056[01:20] <+[TZ]DAZ> i'm not sure mountains
1057[01:20] <@[TZ]Rain> is significantly less
1058[01:20] <+[TZ]DAZ> is the most iconic choice
105901[01:20] <@WyzDM> true
106001[01:20] <@WyzDM> let's keep enjin for now
106101[01:20] <@WyzDM> I did look up some coding stuff and I bet
106201[01:21] <@WyzDM> I could squeeze a few things around
1063[01:21] <@[TZ]Rain> Gale, if you'd be willing
106401[01:21] <@WyzDM> one thing enjin will let me do is through in html injection after html injection
1065[01:21] <@[TZ]Rain> to pump out art assets for a new site
1066[01:21] <@[TZ]Rain> That would not only save us hundreds in hiring a graphic designer
106701[01:21] <@WyzDM> yeah forum pngs would be great
1068[01:21] <@[TZ]Rain> it would give us complete control
1069[01:21] <@[TZ]Rain> over how it would look
107001[01:21] <@WyzDM> and they don't have to be amazing
1071[01:21] <+[TZ]DAZ> yes
1072[01:22] <+[TZ]DAZ> http://www.teamzenith.com/forum/page/1/m/10823342/viewthread/24602139-imasteri-application#p107540109
1073[01:22] <+[TZ]DAZ> sidenote
107401[01:22] <@WyzDM> they just have to follow a consisten theme
1075[01:22] <@[TZ]Rain> ah yes, application structure
1076[01:22] <@[TZ]Rain> One of the most archic things we have
107701[01:22] <@WyzDM> We're gonna toss this entirely
107801[01:22] <@WyzDM> lol
1079[01:22] <@[TZ]Rain> mmm
108001[01:23] <@WyzDM> it served its purpose
108101[01:23] <@WyzDM> at the time
108201[01:23] <@WyzDM> really did
108301[01:23] <@WyzDM> but now
1084[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> We should probably broaden our rules to cover things we need
108501[01:23] <@WyzDM> bleah
1086[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> like a tos
108701[01:23] <@WyzDM> I can fix that too
108801[01:23] <@WyzDM> all part of the forums
108901[01:23] <@WyzDM> anything forums, I can absolutely do
109001[01:23] <@WyzDM> fuck guys I need to get some sleep
1091[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> hmmph alright.
109201[01:23] <@WyzDM> but uh
1093[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> We got a lot done
109401[01:23] <@WyzDM> you guys can still talk if you need to
1095[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll log this chat and put it in pastebin
1096[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> on the sheet
109701[01:23] <@WyzDM> this weekend I can try to tack the forum shit
1098[01:23] <@[TZ]Rain> I have to work in a couple hours
109901[01:24] <@WyzDM> and some site stuff
1100[01:24] <@[TZ]Rain> so I need to get going soon as well
1101[01:24] <+[TZ]DAZ> what time is it
1102[01:24] <+[TZ]DAZ> wyz
110301[01:24] <@WyzDM> only 1:30 AM
1104[01:26] <@[TZ]Galeforce> http://i.imgur.com/Sh9jr2t.png
1105[01:26] <@[TZ]Galeforce> rough ideas be rough
1106[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> hmm
1107[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> i don't know
1108[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> the sharp angles feel "menacing"
1109[01:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> fine with me
1110[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> and perhaps that's not the impression we want across for a community site
1111[01:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Just has to be a brand
1112[01:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> just needs to look cool
1113[01:27] <@[TZ]Rain> Its not quite standing out to me
1114[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> that as well
1115[01:27] <@[TZ]Galeforce> rough drafting pretty hard
1116[01:27] <@[TZ]Rain> Has to be a bit less abstract
1117[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> it doesn't feel impactful
1118[01:27] <@[TZ]Rain> imo
1119[01:27] <+[TZ]DAZ> a generic "menace" i think
1120[01:28] <@[TZ]Galeforce> yeah just making rough ideas
1121[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> Well 
1122[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> i'm glad we all had this discussion
1123[01:29] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Still don't have a plan though
1124[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll keep editing the doc over the day while I'm at work and free
1125[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> but otherwise
1126[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> I'll see you guys tommorrow
1127[01:29] <@[TZ]Rain> bye :)
112802[01:29] * @[TZ]Rain (~rain@Swift-34D28774.midco.net) Quit (Quit: )
1129[01:29] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Cya Rain
1130[01:30] <+[TZ]DAZ> peace
113101[01:31] <@WyzDM> gnight
1132[01:31] <+[TZ]DAZ> night wyzzie
1133[01:31] <+[TZ]DAZ> gale you going soon?
1134[01:31] <@[TZ]Galeforce> Gonna shower off soon
1135[01:35] <+[TZ]DAZ> alright
1136[01:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> we'll talk later
1137[01:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> this is an interesting initiative
1138[01:36] <+[TZ]DAZ> but i think it's the right one
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1141Session Close: Sat Oct 17 01:49:46 2015
1142Session Start: Sat Oct 17 23:23:41 2015
1143Session Ident: #rank-talk
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1147Session Start: Tue Oct 20 23:24:43 2015
1148Session Ident: #rank-talk
114903[23:24] * Now talking in #rank-talk
1150[23:24] <Gale> We've gathered here today
1151[23:25] <Gale> to address Daz's overwhelming concern
115201[23:25] <WyzDM> yeah yeah yeah what's the sentence
1153[23:25] <Gale> of a typo
1154[23:25] <Gale> Idk what's on your mind DAZ
1155[23:26] <Gale> You bring rank talk
1156[23:26] <Gale> then bail
1157[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> lol
1158[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> we should just talk
1159[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> rather than
1160[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> pming each other invidually
1161[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> but yeah, wtf did you do with the posts forum
1162[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> oh p.s.
1163[23:28] <@[TZ]DAZ> itano is asking what he can be doing
1164[23:28] <Gale> I gotta redo my intro :(
1165[23:29] <Gale> Don't think anyone know's what to do
1166[23:29] <Gale> All I know is I'm trying to redo the forums background.
1167[23:29] <Gale> but enjin is pretty fucking retarded about the way it handles things
1168[23:30] <@[TZ]DAZ> why gale?
1169[23:30] <@[TZ]DAZ> what's up
1170[23:30] <Gale> Massive black bars around the forum that refuse to die
1171[23:31] <Gale> or make way for your image
1172[23:32] <@[TZ]DAZ> wait what
1173[23:32] <Gale> fixed it
1174[23:32] <@[TZ]DAZ> i feel like
1175[23:32] <@[TZ]DAZ> if we can't guarantee a stable forum
1176[23:33] <@[TZ]DAZ> that we can open up
1177[23:33] <@[TZ]DAZ> that it's halting our momentum
1178[23:35] <Gale> Logo
1179[23:35] <Gale> Color scheme
1180[23:35] <Gale> style
118101[23:40] <WyzDM> [TZ]DAZ
118201[23:40] <WyzDM> is Itano is on
118301[23:40] <WyzDM> also
118401[23:40] <WyzDM> I think I have another idea
118501[23:40] <WyzDM> for a name
118601[23:41] <WyzDM> i'd get the url too
118701[23:41] <WyzDM> if we can do it
118801[23:41] <WyzDM> Does anyone like...
118901[23:41] <WyzDM> "New Zenith"
119001[23:41] <WyzDM> I thought about it
119101[23:41] <WyzDM> and we would be NZ
119201[23:41] <WyzDM> instead of TZ
1193[23:41] <Gale> .. New Era
119401[23:41] <WyzDM> NE?
119501[23:41] <WyzDM> That's my region
1196[23:41] <Gale> Zenith: New Era
119701[23:41] <WyzDM> I also don't think era holds weight as a word
119801[23:41] <WyzDM> see that's like
1199[23:41] <Gale> neither does new lol
120001[23:41] <WyzDM> not really a name for a team
120101[23:42] <WyzDM> idk, we wouldn't always be
120201[23:42] <WyzDM> a new era though
120301[23:42] <WyzDM> but a new zenith
120401[23:42] <WyzDM> can be transferable 
120501[23:42] <WyzDM> because we're talking about new challenges or mountains we face
120601[23:42] <WyzDM> and climb
120701[23:42] <WyzDM> and conquer
1208[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> what
120901[23:42] <WyzDM> meh
121001[23:42] <WyzDM> I like Team Zenith tho
1211[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> i don't think it's necessary
1212[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> also wyz
1213[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> itano can fund $$$
1214[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> as well
1215[23:42] <@[TZ]DAZ> js
1216[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> he has dirty itano money
1217[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> and he's not on
1218[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> conflicting timezone with you
121901[23:43] <WyzDM> Daz
1220[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> but i usually see him in say 6 hours
122101[23:43] <WyzDM> is itano on
1222[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> read up ^^
122301[23:43] <WyzDM> so you say
122401[23:43] <WyzDM> he'll be on
122501[23:43] <WyzDM> in 6 hours?
1226[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> roughly around that time
1227[23:43] <@[TZ]DAZ> is when he comes on daily
122801[23:43] <WyzDM> okay
122901[23:43] <WyzDM> then I'll be up to see him
123001[23:44] <WyzDM> Do we want to make him an admin with us?
123101[23:44] <WyzDM> or just forum mod
1232[23:44] <Gale> Admin is a big step
123301[23:44] <WyzDM> Yeah but we need some help with the LWG and I trust Itano
1234[23:44] <Gale> Forum mod works for me. 
123501[23:44] <WyzDM> he's not someone who would screw us over
1236[23:44] <@[TZ]DAZ> Itano will crack at LWG community like nothing
1237[23:44] <@[TZ]DAZ> like
1238[23:44] <@[TZ]DAZ> he's almost
1239[23:44] <@[TZ]DAZ> naively passionate/optimistic
124001[23:45] <WyzDM> I think a site admin will help the best then
1241[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> i'd say you guys would need to offer advice on upping his quality of his videos
1242[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> nevertheless
124301[23:45] <WyzDM> because he could help us with front page articles and some general site stuff
1244[23:45] <Gale> I trust him, I just don't know what him being an admin does for us
1245[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> it's because he's the only content creator in lwg basically
1246[23:45] <Gale> We could do that as well. 
1247[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> so there's no "can you help me with X"
1248[23:45] <Gale> I'm just worried something may happen and he pulls a DAZ
124901[23:45] <WyzDM> pretty much
1250[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> hey wyz, is it safe to re-post threads?
1251[23:45] <Gale> And screws half the forum
125201[23:45] <WyzDM> and LOL
1253[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> and pulls a DAZ?
1254[23:45] <@[TZ]DAZ> fuck you guysss
125501[23:45] <WyzDM> and DAZ i would wait
1256[23:46] <@[TZ]DAZ> ITANo'S OJN
1257[23:46] <Gale> Hey you're the one who did it lol
125801[23:46] <WyzDM> I don't know why
1259[23:46] <Gale> DAZ
126001[23:46] <WyzDM> but my post ocunt is reset
1261[23:46] <Gale> Do me a favor
126201[23:46] <WyzDM> yet yours and rain's aren't
126301[23:46] <WyzDM> I think it's just admins
126401[23:46] <WyzDM> wait
126501[23:46] <WyzDM> that gives me an idea
1266[23:46] <@[TZ]DAZ> do me a favor...?
126701[23:46] <WyzDM> DAZ and gale
1268[23:46] <Gale> Go find the dimensions of Enjin's background
126901[23:46] <WyzDM> can you delete your own post history pl0x?
127001[23:46] <WyzDM> and tell me what happens after
1271[23:46] <Gale> all I can find is width is 1100 pixels wide
127201[23:46] <WyzDM> if your post count really goes to 0
1273[23:46] <@[TZ]DAZ> wyz, how'd the ticket go?
1274[23:46] <Gale> Little salty I have to do my intro again
1275[23:46] <@[TZ]DAZ> fuck
1276[23:47] <@[TZ]DAZ> itano logged off
1277[23:47] <Gale> should get his skype
127801[23:49] <WyzDM> I THOUGHT YOU SAID HE WASN
127901[23:49] <WyzDM> ON
1280[23:49] <@[TZ]DAZ> he logged on briefly
1281[23:49] <@[TZ]DAZ> and logged off
128201[23:49] <WyzDM> lol
1283[23:49] <@[TZ]DAZ> probs just checking his phone
128401[23:49] <WyzDM> anyway
1285[23:49] <@[TZ]DAZ> he usually
1286[23:49] <@[TZ]DAZ> logs on
1287[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> consistently
1288[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> for hours
128901[23:50] <WyzDM> I have no response from the ticket
1290[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> in the evening
129101[23:50] <WyzDM> could day a couple days
129201[23:50] <WyzDM> *take
1293[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> wyz
1294[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> did you do reset post count
1295[23:50] <@[TZ]DAZ> or delete all post count?
1296[23:51] <@[TZ]DAZ> reset post count seems to be fucked up
1297[23:51] <@[TZ]DAZ> but i wonder if delete all post count clears properly
1298[23:51] <@[TZ]DAZ> Gale
1299[23:51] <@[TZ]DAZ> 1920x1080
1300[23:52] <Gale> Don't think that's it. 
1301[23:52] <Gale> or link to wherever it came from
130201[23:53] <WyzDM> there's no option to reset post ocunt daz
130301[23:53] <WyzDM> I'm tring to delete post count
130401[23:53] <WyzDM> through deleting posts
130501[23:53] <WyzDM> didn't mean to hit you and gale tho
1306[23:54] <@[TZ]DAZ> gale, i googled
1307[23:54] <@[TZ]DAZ> and that was the first answer
1308[23:55] <Gale> i've tried it before though
1309[23:55] <Gale> it wasn't it
1310[23:55] <@[TZ]DAZ> ouch then
1311[23:55] <@[TZ]DAZ> http://www.enjin.com/forums/m/10826/viewthread/5879925-website-background-size
1312[23:55] <@[TZ]DAZ> maybe cause it was 2013
1313[23:56] <Gale> 1080p is way too big
1314[23:56] <@[TZ]DAZ> http://www.enjin.com/help/
1315[23:56] <@[TZ]DAZ> try find something here?
1316[23:56] <@[TZ]DAZ> i;'m looking
1317[23:59] <Gale> okay
1318[23:59] <Gale> we're getting somewhere
1319[23:59] <@[TZ]DAZ> oh?
1320[23:59] <Gale> i'm doing this old school way
1321[23:59] <@[TZ]DAZ> does it say something gale?
1322[23:59] <Gale> no
1323[23:59] <Gale> i'm doing it by hand
1324[23:59] <Gale> i've made 6 different test
1325[23:59] <Gale> to see where the size is
1326[23:59] <Gale> all I know is it's small af
1327Session Time: Wed Oct 21 00:00:00 2015
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1329[00:04] <Gale> go find out how to change a page to a liquid layout
1330[00:04] <Gale> rather than static 
133102[00:04] * @[TZ]DAZ (~qwebirc@20E0D052.D21C9F0A.E94878EC.IP) Quit (Ping timeout)
133203[00:05] * [TZ]DAZ_ is now known as [TZ]DAZ
1333[00:05] <[TZ]DAZ> liquid layout
1334[00:05] <[TZ]DAZ> what
1335[00:05] <[TZ]DAZ> as in repeating?
1336[00:05] <[TZ]DAZ> or changes as you scroll?
1337[00:05] <Gale> changes as you scroll
1338[00:07] <Gale> got it
1339[00:07] <[TZ]DAZ> nice one gale :)
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1344[00:13] <Gale> You busy wyz?
1345[00:13] <[TZ]DAZ> kk
1346[00:13] <Gale> it stretches across the screen
1347[00:13] <[TZ]DAZ> wtf
1348[00:13] <[TZ]DAZ> gale
1349[00:13] <[TZ]DAZ> all the image assets
1350[00:13] <[TZ]DAZ> are fucked up so hard lol
1351[00:13] <Gale> yep.
1352[00:14] <Gale> I can deal with those later though.
1353[00:14] <[TZ]DAZ> LOL
1354[00:15] <[TZ]DAZ> then minimise
1355[00:15] <[TZ]DAZ> rip screen
135601[00:15] <WyzDM> [TZ]Daz and gale
1357[00:15] <[TZ]DAZ> yo?
135801[00:15] <WyzDM> did you guys delete yoru own forum posts yet
135901[00:15] <WyzDM> or try to
136001[00:15] <WyzDM> I need to see if that will reset your counts
1361[00:15] <Gale> kinda busy right now 
1362[00:15] <Gale> if it's pressing matter i'll stop and do it
136301[00:16] <WyzDM> It's not pressing
136401[00:16] <WyzDM> ugh
136501[00:16] <WyzDM> it would be super easy
136601[00:16] <WyzDM> if Rain was here
1367[00:16] <Gale> green and grey
1368[00:16] <Gale> looks sweet af
136901[00:16] <WyzDM> cause all I'm doing is fiddling to see if I can find some work around
137001[00:16] <WyzDM> but rain being the site admin
137101[00:16] <WyzDM> can just remove and add users again
137201[00:16] <WyzDM> so we could all like
137301[00:16] <WyzDM> entirely refresh
1374[00:18] <Gale> any chance I could do it? 
1375[00:18] <Gale> Fun fact
1376[00:18] <Gale> Rain nearly gave me site admin at one point
1377[00:18] <Gale> lol
1378[00:19] <Gale> Wyz, if things start going crazy with the forums, all is fine
1379[00:19] <Gale> i'm just playing with different styles we could be using
1380[00:19] <Gale> the red/black thing has gotta go
1381[00:20] <[TZ]DAZ> @wyz
1382[00:20] <[TZ]DAZ> i'll delete npow
1383[00:20] <Gale> delete mine while you're at it
1384[00:22] <[TZ]DAZ> delete doesn't do anything
1385[00:23] <[TZ]DAZ> i deleted
1386[00:23] <[TZ]DAZ> followed by reset
1387[00:23] <[TZ]DAZ> at least
1388[00:23] <[TZ]DAZ> wyz is working properly
138901[00:25] <WyzDM> it may take some time
139001[00:25] <WyzDM> relax
139101[00:25] <WyzDM> It didn't work for me right away
139201[00:25] <WyzDM> DAZ add your posts again if you'd like
1393[00:26] <Gale> How do you guys feel 
1394[00:26] <Gale> about a general white theme? 
1395[00:26] <Gale> white/light blue maybe
1396[00:27] <[TZ]DAZ> @Wyz
1397[00:27] <[TZ]DAZ> is it safe lol
1398[00:31] <Gale> any news on these forums being open 
1399[00:31] <Gale> or is still admin locked
1400[00:32] <[TZ]DAZ> still admin locked
1401[00:37] <[TZ]DAZ> this is
1402[00:37] <[TZ]DAZ> the third time
1403[00:37] <[TZ]DAZ>  i have to post my threads
1404[00:37] <[TZ]DAZ> i'm salty
1405[00:37] <[TZ]DAZ> lol
1406[00:37] <Gale> Can't you copy paste at this point
1407[00:38] <Gale> I have to redo my entire intro lol
1408[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> yeah
1409[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> but still salty
1410[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> lol
1411[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> WHOA
1412[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> GALE
1413[00:39] <[TZ]DAZ> WHAT DID YOU DO TO BG
1414[00:39] <Gale> :D
1415[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> buttons
1416[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> and shit look so out of place
1417[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> now lol
1418[00:40] <Gale> not all gonna be pretty at first
1419[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> my yellow glowy name is so hard to read now
1420[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> is that a temp colour
1421[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> or will it be changed
1422[00:40] <[TZ]DAZ> cause it shouldn't stay yellow if this is the scheme lol
1423[00:40] <Gale> you have no idea how much work I had to do to get the first layout to look good
1424[00:40] <Gale> chill out fam
1425[00:40] <Gale> you're worrying about minor shit
1426[00:40] <Gale> takes 30 seconds to change your name color
1427[00:41] <[TZ]DAZ> this is the first layout
1428[00:41] <[TZ]DAZ> ?
1429[00:41] <Gale> no
1430[00:41] <[TZ]DAZ> and yeah, that was just a side-note
1431[00:41] <Gale> lowkey thought about pranking everyone
1432[00:42] <Gale> and setting a site password
143301[00:42] <WyzDM> please don't
1434[00:42] <Gale> also WyzDM
143501[00:42] <WyzDM> ?
1436[00:42] <Gale> I may implement the Twitch stream feature into the site
1437[00:42] <Gale> Since Enjin can do that
1438[00:42] <[TZ]DAZ> yeah
143901[00:42] <WyzDM> That would be coo. SO that would be like on a seperate page?
144001[00:42] <WyzDM> also
1441[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> twitch straem would be swelll
1442[00:43] <Gale> Think it would be integrated into the normal page
144301[00:43] <WyzDM> Is there anyway to change the website layout to widescreen? bEcause the layout is set to the old box monitors 
1444[00:43] <Gale> watch a live stream with IRC beside it
1445[00:43] <Gale> I just switched it back to static
1446[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> Liquid Layout
144701[00:43] <WyzDM> static?
1448[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> LMAO
1449[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> Liquid/Static
1450[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> Static is always the same
1451[00:43] <[TZ]DAZ> Liquid changes BG as you scroll, and also adjusts to screen size
1452[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> except it fucked up all the image assets\
145301[00:44] <WyzDM> I don't mean background
145401[00:44] <WyzDM> I mean like
145501[00:44] <WyzDM> here
145601[00:44] <WyzDM> I'll show you
145701[00:44] <WyzDM> sec
1458[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> no, like
1459[00:44] <Gale> look at the forums now
1460[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> huh
1461[00:44] <Gale> Fuuuuuck me
1462[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> what did you change gale
1463[00:44] <Gale> That whole A Wild Tournament Appeared thread I made
1464[00:44] <Gale> is gone too
1465[00:44] <Gale> I spent 20 minutes on that
1466[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> yeah
1467[00:44] <[TZ]DAZ> =/
146801[00:45] <WyzDM> http://imgur.com/a/BDOOV
146901[00:45] <WyzDM> See the difference
147001[00:45] <WyzDM> Both use the same dimensions
147101[00:45] <WyzDM> like I copied the same screen area just about
1472[00:46] <Gale> Top is static
1473[00:46] <Gale> liquid I mean
1474[00:46] <Gale> bottom is static
147501[00:46] <WyzDM> ...so why don't we make the website liquid
1476[00:46] <Gale> Look at ours now
147701[00:46] <WyzDM> amazing
147801[00:46] <WyzDM> let us keep this
1479[00:46] <Gale> I did, and just switched it back in the time frame you were doing whatever lol
148001[00:46] <WyzDM> lol
148101[00:47] <WyzDM> z0mg
148201[00:47] <WyzDM> DAZ
148301[00:47] <WyzDM> YOUR POSTS
148401[00:47] <WyzDM> THEY RESET
148501[00:47] <WyzDM> z0mG
148601[00:47] <WyzDM> GALEFORCE
148701[00:47] <WyzDM> DID YOU RESET YOUR POSTS
1488[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> what
148901[00:47] <WyzDM> IN THE USERS TAB
1490[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> i reset/delete his
149101[00:47] <WyzDM> http://www.teamzenith.com/forum/m/34695256/viewthread/24667379-zenith-presents-chaos-dominated-part-1/post/last#last
1492[00:47] <Gale> Told DAZ to do it
149301[00:47] <WyzDM> FUCKKK
1494[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> i figured gale's posts already got deleted
149501[00:47] <WyzDM> DAZ
149601[00:47] <WyzDM> You don't understand..
1497[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> so i wasn't gonna trash anymore
149801[00:47] <WyzDM> Why do you think I told you
1499[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> sup wyzziepoo?
150001[00:47] <WyzDM> to do it for your own account?
1501[00:47] <[TZ]DAZ> um..
150201[00:47] <WyzDM> ..if I hadn't already tried to do it
150301[00:48] <WyzDM> ...
1504[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> i did?
150501[00:48] <WyzDM> I know
1506[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> what
150701[00:48] <WyzDM> so galeforce
150801[00:48] <WyzDM> I need you
150901[00:48] <WyzDM> to do the same
1510[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> to do wht
151101[00:48] <WyzDM> lol
1512[00:48] <Gale> gahhhhh
1513[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> is gale's reset?
1514[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> i did it for him
1515[00:48] <Gale> you said it wasn't pressing lol
151601[00:48] <WyzDM> Daz
151701[00:48] <WyzDM> that's point
151801[00:48] <WyzDM> I don't think
151901[00:48] <WyzDM> we can do it
152001[00:48] <WyzDM> to each other
152101[00:48] <WyzDM> because we're all admins
152201[00:48] <WyzDM> Otherwise
1523[00:48] <[TZ]DAZ> what
152401[00:48] <WyzDM> I wouldn't need to ask you
152501[00:48] <WyzDM> ffs
152601[00:48] <WyzDM> it's like this
152701[00:49] <WyzDM> I got my post count reset
1528[00:49] <Gale> Mine shows 0
1529[00:49] <Gale> I think he's good.
153001[00:49] <WyzDM> wait really?
1531[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> yes
153201[00:49] <WyzDM> well wtf
1533[00:49] <Gale> I'm keeping my likes though
153401[00:49] <WyzDM> Um
1535[00:49] <Gale> fuck you guys +61
1536[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> can we not have likes showing?
153701[00:49] <WyzDM> that shouldn't happen
1538[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> fuck yoy
1539[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> +254
1540[00:49] <Gale> I like likes
1541[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> BITCH
1542[00:49] <Gale> Use them
154301[00:49] <WyzDM> I'll see if I can refresh that
154401[00:49] <WyzDM> sec
1545[00:49] <Gale> Makes you look useful
1546[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> but really
1547[00:49] <[TZ]DAZ> i think having likes shouldn't exist lol
1548[00:50] <Gale> Just like Reddit
1549[00:50] <[TZ]DAZ> checked gale's account
1550[00:50] <[TZ]DAZ> it's looking fine
1551[00:50] <Gale> +1 kharma
1552[00:50] <[TZ]DAZ> reddit karma
1553[00:50] <[TZ]DAZ> is full of shit
1554[00:50] <[TZ]DAZ> lol
1555[00:50] <Gale> But look at how successful Reddit is
155601[00:51] <WyzDM> BOOM
155701[00:51] <WyzDM> DONE
155801[00:51] <WyzDM> I CAN RESET FORUM VOTES
155901[00:51] <WyzDM> FUCK YEA
1560[00:51] <Gale> I'm about to do something
156101[00:51] <WyzDM> Gale if you have 0 posts
1562[00:51] <Gale> Quite hillarious 
156301[00:51] <WyzDM> you're safe to post
1564[00:51] <Gale> And I'm not going to tell either of you what it is
1565[00:51] <[TZ]DAZ> wyz
1566[00:51] <[TZ]DAZ> what happened
1567[00:52] <[TZ]DAZ> Gale
1568[00:52] <[TZ]DAZ> I have something hilarious for you
1569[00:52] <[TZ]DAZ> how was getting your intro and tourney post reset
157001[00:52] <WyzDM> I like this layout, are we keeping it?
1571[00:52] <Gale> fuck off daz lol
1572[00:52] <Gale> Yeah, we're keeping it. 
1573[00:52] <[TZ]DAZ> yeah sorry
1574[00:52] <[TZ]DAZ> i know it sucks
1575[00:52] <Gale> I just have to do a lot of adjusting.
1576[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> looks okay gale
157701[00:53] <WyzDM> Yeah
1578[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> looks generic tbh
1579[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> but i know you'll add your touches
158001[00:53] <WyzDM> yeah if we touch it up we're good
1581[00:53] <Gale> Didn't we want more generic
158201[00:53] <WyzDM> Generic, but like
1583[00:53] <Gale> cause apparently my blood splatters was too aggressive for daz
158401[00:53] <WyzDM> something that doesn't like too much like sp
158501[00:53] <WyzDM> which it kinda does
1586[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> "blood"
1587[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> ^^qft
1588[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> also, it's koolaid
1589[00:53] <[TZ]DAZ> let's get it right
1590[00:54] <Gale> You thought it was blood all this time
1591[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> brb
1592[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> grabbing food
1593[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> no, i knew it was koolaid
1594[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> from the beginning
1595[00:54] <Gale> Oh Wyz, not sure if you were aware of that lol
1596[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> i've worked with the same texture pack
1597[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> kappa
1598[00:54] <Gale> Riiiiiiiiiight.
159901[00:54] <WyzDM> Um
1600[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> a seasoned artist like me
1601[00:54] <Gale> .. (not even a texture pack)
1602[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> haaa
1603[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> well
160401[00:54] <WyzDM> I do have one thing though galeforce
1605[00:54] <Gale> the 'blood splatters' 
1606[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> anywayyy
1607[00:54] <Gale> were not actually blood splatters 
1608[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> i need to grab food
160901[00:54] <WyzDM> The default unread/read forum icons
1610[00:54] <[TZ]DAZ> back in a bit
1611[00:54] <Gale> is boring yes
161201[00:55] <WyzDM> are too similar besides our stick empire custom pictures
161301[00:55] <WyzDM> they're not boring I would say
1614[00:55] <Gale> Just gotta tackle one thing at a time
161501[00:55] <WyzDM> the only difference is >
1616[00:55] <Gale> Do me a favor and include it in the zenith document
161701[00:55] <WyzDM> okay
1618[00:55] <Gale> so I can get around to it tomorrow
161901[00:55] <WyzDM> sweet
1620[00:55] <Gale> vivid detail is best
1621[00:55] <Gale> so I don't have to wait around on you to see what you want exactly
1622[00:57] <Gale> What > are you talking about
1623[00:58] <Gale> Oh I see
1624[00:59] <Gale> Yoooooooo that's tight
1625[00:59] <Gale> I can pull your stream up straight from any page on Enjin WyzDM
162601[01:03] <WyzDM> GUYS
162701[01:03] <WyzDM> I HAVE A NEW CONCEPT FOR A LOG
162801[01:03] <WyzDM> *LOGO
162901[01:03] <WyzDM> and that's dope Gale
163001[01:28] <WyzDM> you guys still here?
163101[01:28] <WyzDM> Gale [TZ]DAZ
1632[01:31] <Gale> I am
1633[01:31] <Gale> WyzDM
1634[01:37] <[TZ]DAZ> back
163501[01:40] <WyzDM> I think I may have a new log idea
163601[01:40] <WyzDM> SOmething similar to the avengers but not blatantly copying them, and making the sphere the TZ is in
163701[01:40] <WyzDM> more 3d like
163801[01:41] <WyzDM> https://www.google.com/search?q=define+zenith&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=979&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAmoVChMImeL5k-3SyAIVxms-Ch1fRgdI
163901[01:41] <WyzDM> This gave me ideas
1640[01:41] <[TZ]DAZ> ?
164101[01:43] <WyzDM> It's like
164201[01:43] <WyzDM> an actual zenith
164302[01:43] * Disconnected
1644Session Close: Wed Oct 21 01:43:23 2015
1645Session Start: Wed Oct 21 18:55:02 2015
1646Session Ident: #rank-talk
164703[18:55] * Now talking in #rank-talk
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164903[19:11] * [TZ]DAZ (~qwebirc@20E0D052.D21C9F0A.E94878EC.IP) has joined #rank-talk
1650[19:11] <[TZ]DAZ> sorry
1651[19:11] <[TZ]DAZ> im late
1652[19:23] <[TZ]DAZ> iig
165303[19:33] * [TZ]Rain (~rain@Swift-34D28774.midco.net) has joined #rank-talk
1654[19:33] <[TZ]Rain> hey
1655[19:33] <[TZ]Rain> whats the problem?
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165701[19:47] <@WyzDM> FUCK
165801[19:47] <@WyzDM> DAZ I SAID QUERY ME
165901[19:47] <@WyzDM> FFS
1660[19:47] <[TZ]DAZ> I WAS
1661[19:47] <[TZ]DAZ> IN-GAME
1662[19:48] <[TZ]DAZ> FUCK YOU WYZ
1663[20:00] <[TZ]DAZ> "http://teamzenith.com/"
1664[20:00] <[TZ]DAZ> Got the day off work to help get some other stuff done.
1665[20:00] <[TZ]DAZ> yo
166601[20:01] <@WyzDM> yo
166703[20:04] * Gale (Mibbit@3C982DD0.1D38592A.3F769CDF.IP) has joined #rank-talk
166801[20:04] <@WyzDM> ok
166901[20:04] <@WyzDM> [TZ]DAZ
167001[20:04] <@WyzDM> I wanted rain in here first
167101[20:04] <@WyzDM> but whatever
1672[20:04] <Gale> I see Itano joined
167301[20:04] <@WyzDM> we can go over this ourselves
167401[20:04] <@WyzDM> Yes
1675[20:04] <[TZ]DAZ> itano
1676[20:04] <[TZ]DAZ> is coming
167701[20:04] <@WyzDM> Thank
167801[20:05] <@WyzDM> He's included in this as well
167901[20:05] <@WyzDM> 8thanks
168001[20:05] <@WyzDM> But pretty much
168103[20:05] * ItanoCircus (~qwebirc@Swift-E999D92C.panda-world.ne.jp) has joined #rank-talk
168201[20:05] <@WyzDM> I want to break down
1683[20:05] <ItanoCircus> Hello all.  I'm here.
168401[20:05] <@WyzDM> what we've been talking about
1685[20:05] <Gale> Howdy.
168601[20:05] <@WyzDM> Itano welcome
1687[20:05] <ItanoCircus> I'm going to start some laundry... moving out of my country soon anyways :)
168801[20:05] <@WyzDM> I gotto do that too
168901[20:05] <@WyzDM> where you moving to>?
1690[20:05] <ItanoCircus> I technically got the day off so I can prepare for my move, so it might be a bit busy for me, but I'm here.
1691[20:05] <Gale> Sigh. I need to as well.
1692[20:05] <ItanoCircus> I'm in Japan and I have to move to San Diego, CA, USA
169301[20:05] <@WyzDM> oh snap
1694[20:05] <Gale> 'Murica
169501[20:05] <@WyzDM> Well you'll be in the US, that's cool
1696[20:05] <ItanoCircus> In about ten days, and with no assistance from a moving company.
169701[20:06] <@WyzDM> oh wow
169801[20:06] <@WyzDM> Well I'll try to make this quick anyway
169901[20:06] <@WyzDM> I'm doing shit and I may be moving out of state as well
170001[20:06] <@WyzDM> anyway
1701[20:06] <[TZ]DAZ> sup itano
170201[20:06] <@WyzDM> Point #1 is that Itano, we've been talking about
170301[20:06] <@WyzDM> what name, logo, motto, etc we want to use when we change over
170401[20:06] <@WyzDM> so I wanted to break down these things in
170501[20:06] <@WyzDM> a simple matter of pros and cons
170601[20:06] <@WyzDM> and take things one step at a time
1707[20:07] <[TZ]DAZ> i'd like to get slammer on board with media btw @ Itano
1708[20:07] <[TZ]DAZ> don't want you doing it all alone
170901[20:07] <@WyzDM> The first being name. If we're changing out name, nothing else is as important because it will have to follow whatever we change it
171001[20:07] <@WyzDM> DAZ not yet
171101[20:07] <@WyzDM> anyway
1712[20:07] <Gale> Agreed, name needs to be figured out.
171301[20:07] <@WyzDM> We need to decide right now
171401[20:07] <@WyzDM> if we're changing or keeping
171501[20:07] <@WyzDM> so before we do
171601[20:07] <@WyzDM> pros and cons list
171701[20:07] <@WyzDM> I want you all to contribute
1718[20:07] <Gale> So far you like New Zenith.
171901[20:07] <@WyzDM> not really
1720[20:07] <Gale> I like Zenith: New Era.
172101[20:07] <@WyzDM> I thought about this more and will give my 2 cents later
172201[20:08] <@WyzDM> anyway
172301[20:08] <@WyzDM> pros list to a new name: shoot
1724[20:08] <Gale> Or we can change the name entirely. 
1725[20:08] <Gale> New start. Shows we're different, things have changed
1726[20:08] <Gale> We already reset the forums, may as well go all out
172701[20:09] <@WyzDM> anything else?
1728[20:09] <Gale> My main reasoning is to signify change
1729[20:09] <Gale> Other than that I have no concerns. 
173001[20:09] <@WyzDM> I am actually looking for
173101[20:09] <@WyzDM> contributions from [TZ]DAZ and Itano
1732[20:09] <ItanoCircus> Team Zenith has a competitive, inclusive vibe to it.
1733[20:09] <[TZ]DAZ> hmm
173401[20:09] <@WyzDM> I was about to say that
1735[20:09] <ItanoCircus> But also exclusive due to an elite status, competition, etc.
173601[20:10] <@WyzDM> Okay, DAZ comment?
1737[20:10] <ItanoCircus> You don't want people, particularly from Stick Empires, to believe that they're not welcome or somehow that this is just a collection of the "Good-Ole-Boys-Club"
1738[20:10] <Gale> Do you say that because of the word 'team'? 
1739[20:10] <[TZ]DAZ> obviously as a long-term member, I've grown used to Team Zenith
1740[20:10] <[TZ]DAZ> and attached to it
174101[20:10] <@WyzDM> DAZ share what are pros to a name change
1742[20:10] <[TZ]DAZ> and in a way, i have the same feeling towards the colour scheme
1743[20:10] <ItanoCircus> I say that because I know that Team Zenith is on the top of Stick Empires commentary and tournaments,
174401[20:10] <@WyzDM> if you can't think of any sau so.
1745[20:10] <[TZ]DAZ> it's nice, reminds me of zenith, but isn't right for a community hub
1746[20:11] <[TZ]DAZ> A change represents a fresh start
1747[20:11] <ItanoCircus> and if the eventual goal is to have team leagues that stretch beyond just one game or just one team,
1748[20:11] <[TZ]DAZ> This is NEW zenith. This is our legacy to build.
1749[20:11] <ItanoCircus> then having that MONO-TEAM legacy is harmful to the end goal / product.
1750[20:11] <[TZ]DAZ> a lot of our art assets would also have to get changed, not that they don't already
175101[20:11] <@WyzDM> DAZ 
175201[20:11] <@WyzDM> PROS
175301[20:11] <@WyzDM> stay focused
1754[20:11] <ItanoCircus> Pros, as I see them, are in three points.
1755[20:12] <ItanoCircus> 1.) You don't risk alienating existing Stick Empires players
1756[20:12] <ItanoCircus> 2.) You recreate an atmospher of inclusiveness by focusing the COMMUNITY HUB over the TEAM ZENITH portion of the website
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175901[20:13] <@WyzDM> 3?
1760[20:13] <Gale> Could someone paste what was said after Itano's 1
176101[20:13] <@WyzDM> to recap for gale
1762[20:13] <ItanoCircus> 3.) Even if the names involved stay similar, there is a plausible sense that this is not just a self-interested collab
176301[20:13] <@WyzDM> 1.) You don't risk alienating existing Stick Empires players
176401[20:13] <@WyzDM> 2.) You recreate an atmospher of inclusiveness by focusing the COMMUNITY HUB over the TEAM ZENITH portion of the website
176501[20:13] <@WyzDM> 3.) Even if the names involved stay similar, there is a plausible sense that this is not just a self-interested collab
176601[20:13] <@WyzDM> Ok thank you Itano
1767[20:14] <ItanoCircus> I'd also address two other points.
1768[20:14] <Gale> Reasonable pros
1769[20:14] <[TZ]DAZ> oh?
1770[20:14] <ItanoCircus> 1.) Even if we did not change the name, the art assets would have to be adjusted for Reasons #2 and #3 above
1771[20:14] <Gale> ^
1772[20:14] <Gale> I was going to address that in cons
177301[20:14] <@WyzDM> Yes let's stick to pros
1774[20:15] <ItanoCircus> 2.) If the name were not changed, it would be hard to express this as a collaboration with other, new entities (team and LWG) if the website APPEARED on a surface area to be unmodified.
1775[20:15] <ItanoCircus> Despite designed layout changes.
1776[20:15] <ItanoCircus> People are sticklers for those things xD
177701[20:15] <@WyzDM> Mhm
1778[20:16] <Gale> So are you suggesting a new name all together? 
177901[20:16] <@WyzDM> Not yet
178001[20:16] <@WyzDM> we're merely going over pros and cons
178101[20:16] <@WyzDM> before we decide
178201[20:16] <@WyzDM> are we satisfied with the pros list?
1783[20:16] <Gale> What are your pros Wyz
178401[20:16] <@WyzDM> You guys hit my points prety much
1785[20:16] <Gale> Your opinion is important as well
178601[20:16] <@WyzDM> My biggest was how our name
178701[20:16] <@WyzDM> is competetive by nature
178801[20:17] <@WyzDM> and how we've only used it so far in the name of war
1789[20:17] <[TZ]DAZ> i think that's also part of "Zenith"
1790[20:17] <[TZ]DAZ> having Team next to "at the top"
1791[20:17] <[TZ]DAZ> persay
1792[20:17] <[TZ]DAZ> gives moff that competitive vibe
1793[20:17] <Gale> There are other names we can use to show a competitive vibe
179401[20:17] <@WyzDM> Yes, but do we want to?
179501[20:17] <@WyzDM> Anyway
179601[20:18] <@WyzDM> Cons list to making a new name
1797[20:18] <Gale> To further emphasize the point of a new start, I wouldn't object. 
179801[20:18] <@WyzDM> Go
1799[20:18] <Gale> Artwork has to be changed 
180001[20:18] <@WyzDM> artwork as in
1801[20:18] <Gale> All red/black color schemes have to go 
1802[20:18] <Gale> We have to identify ourselves again
180301[20:18] <@WyzDM> wait
1804[20:18] <[TZ]DAZ> unfortunately, yes
180501[20:18] <@WyzDM> nvm
180601[20:18] <@WyzDM> okay
1807[20:19] <Gale> Stick Empires players know that Team Zenith is the dominant clan 
1808[20:19] <Gale> Changing our name just means we have to establish our reputation once more
1809[20:19] <[TZ]DAZ> if we remove Zenith, I think
1810[20:19] <Gale> Which given our players and talents, that should not be an issue.
1811[20:19] <[TZ]DAZ> having Zenith will keep our reputation
181201[20:19] <@WyzDM> DAZ
181301[20:19] <@WyzDM> focus
181401[20:20] <@WyzDM> Big picture changes
1815[20:20] <Gale> Cons also 
1816[20:20] <Gale> We further delay our forums by taking the time for a new name
1817[20:20] <Gale> Not sure how pressed for time we want to be
181801[20:20] <@WyzDM> We're not pressed for time
181901[20:20] <@WyzDM> but I hate being underconstruction
1820[20:20] <ItanoCircus> We have two issues, one from the LWG side of the house, as well as a third already taken up
182101[20:20] <@WyzDM> didn't even think of that
182201[20:21] <@WyzDM> Intano share
1823[20:21] <ItanoCircus> 1.) It will be difficult to ensure 100% of the people that were following Team Zenith will follow onto the new website.
1824[20:21] <ItanoCircus> What I mean by that is this:
1825[20:21] <Gale> I suppose that touches back to what I said
1826[20:21] <ItanoCircus> If you split into a new organization, that might allow others to think they can be competing organizations again, competing teams.
1827[20:21] <[TZ]DAZ> on SE?
1828[20:21] <ItanoCircus> Which, while great for the scene on that sense, is absolutely destructive to getting everybody on the same page.
1829[20:21] <ItanoCircus> So some kind of ... force, or impetus is needed.
1830[20:22] <ItanoCircus> Effectively, I'd recommend a statement along the lines of 
1831[20:22] <ItanoCircus> "Team Zenith is disbanded.  We (names of people) are now working on (new name) with the goal of <goal> 
1832[20:22] <ItanoCircus> "If you have supported or enjoyed the content of <content creators> 
183301[20:23] <@WyzDM> That's out of the scope, but the first point on how getting those on board again
1834[20:23] <ItanoCircus> "Then please check out <site> at <time>"
1835[20:23] <ItanoCircus> I'm sure that's a smaller issue though, given, as was stated, that it's out of the current scope.
1836[20:23] <Gale> An issue for another time; how are we going to draw members to the site who are not interested in the competitive aspect of either game?
1837[20:24] <ItanoCircus> 2.) LWG-side - Right now most of the traffic is on the game itself, with the Subreddit taking second place and the existing forums taking third
183801[20:24] <@WyzDM> That's easy
183901[20:24] <@WyzDM> name change or not
1840[20:24] <ItanoCircus> So how do we plan on attracting / ensuring that traffic for the player goes from there to the new website?
1841[20:25] <ItanoCircus> In one sense, it would be easier to send them to an existing large site with an already-followed name so there's a sense of establishment.
1842[20:25] <Gale> Let's touch back up on this topic in after we've established the name situation
1843[20:25] <[TZ]DAZ> It'll be easy for me to get all the big names on lwg
1844[20:25] <ItanoCircus> Unknown to what degree that's a problem.
1845[20:25] <[TZ]DAZ> then you, as a community figure can just send people over for "help" and develop it
1846[20:25] <[TZ]DAZ> when the under construction is over we're hitting the forums hard and fast
1847[20:26] <ItanoCircus> 3.) Art assets are thrown out the window.  HOWEVER, I do not believe this is something that can be avoided given the new website layout / design.
1848[20:26] <ItanoCircus> Nor do I believe it would be correct to try and save the existing assets, though it would save us a lot of work.
1849[20:26] <Gale> No, that's definitely too much work.
1850[20:26] <[TZ]DAZ> Considering we're completely revamping the colour scheme
1851[20:26] <[TZ]DAZ> I think we have to get new art assets
1852[20:26] <Gale> I agree with simply starting over with graphics. 
1853[20:26] <ItanoCircus> Not 100% of the existing graphics, I meant. And throwing EVERYTHING out of the way is insane.
1854[20:27] <Gale> Even if that means I have to bare the entire weight of that on my shoulders.
1855[20:27] <ItanoCircus> That's what I was getting at @Gale / @[TZ]DAZ
1856[20:27] <ItanoCircus> Sorry Gale ._.
1857[20:27] <Gale> No pressure lol.
185801[20:27] <@WyzDM> What about
1859[20:27] <[TZ]DAZ> lol gale
1860[20:27] <[TZ]DAZ> we know you'll pull sick shit
186101[20:27] <@WyzDM> needing to get another domain name
186201[20:27] <@WyzDM> another youtube name
186301[20:27] <@WyzDM> irc name
186401[20:27] <@WyzDM> etc
1865[20:28] <Gale> New YT name won't be an issue
1866[20:28] <Gale> We can draw players in through our individual channels
186701[20:28] <@WyzDM> But we already have a channel
186801[20:28] <@WyzDM> with videoso n it
1869[20:28] <[TZ]DAZ> can you re-name?
1870[20:28] <Gale> That's fine. We'll just make more content. 
187101[20:28] <@WyzDM> Nope
187201[20:28] <@WyzDM> I don't believe so
187302[20:28] * ItanoCircus (~qwebirc@Swift-E999D92C.panda-world.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
187401[20:28] <@WyzDM> and even if you can
187501[20:28] <@WyzDM> that will confuse people
187601[20:28] <@WyzDM> shit Itano left
187703[20:29] * ItanoCircus (~qwebirc@Swift-E999D92C.panda-world.ne.jp) has joined #rank-talk
1878[20:29] <[TZ]DAZ> he's still on
1879[20:29] <[TZ]DAZ> nice itano
1880[20:29] <[TZ]DAZ> scare us
1881[20:30] <Gale> Okay. 
188201[20:30] <@WyzDM> Okay
1883[20:30] <[TZ]DAZ> Okay
188401[20:30] <@WyzDM> lol gale
188501[20:30] <@WyzDM> what about
1886[20:31] <Gale> Dominance Island. :o
188701[20:31] <@WyzDM> first
188801[20:31] <@WyzDM> someone wanna summerize points made
1889[20:31] <[TZ]DAZ> dominance island
1890[20:31] <[TZ]DAZ> ?
1891[20:31] <[TZ]DAZ> what
189201[20:32] <@WyzDM> Okay me then
1893[20:32] <Gale> tl;dr We want a new name, but we want it to be open. Art revamp is needed. Content would have to be moved or changed, media and graphics.
189401[20:32] <@WyzDM> Gale not yet
189501[20:32] <@WyzDM> We haven't discussed it
189601[20:32] <@WyzDM> Still need to compile the con list
189701[20:33] <@WyzDM> 1) would be keeping the current followers on board
1898[20:33] <Gale> Let's get some cons then 
1899[20:33] <[TZ]DAZ> cons for changing name right?
190001[20:33] <@WyzDM> 2) generating site traffic
190101[20:33] <@WyzDM> Yes
190201[20:34] <@WyzDM> 3) social media/youtube/irc/domain name change
190301[20:35] <@WyzDM> 4) All the art and designs are out the window (while most are anyway, this means none could be used again)
190401[20:35] <@WyzDM> anyone have any others to share?
1905[20:35] <Gale> Regarding the name? No. 
1906[20:35] <ItanoCircus> Not regarding the name.
190701[20:35] <@WyzDM> DAZ?
190801[20:36] <@WyzDM> [TZ]DAZ
1909[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> maybe
1910[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> all links break?
191101[20:36] <@WyzDM> What do you mean?
1912[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> minor thing
1913[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> as in, all the URL links
191401[20:36] <@WyzDM> OHH
1915[20:36] <Gale> Can deal with that later. 
1916[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> to teamzenith will break
191701[20:36] <@WyzDM> that's true
1918[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> that's the only other thing i can think of
191901[20:36] <@WyzDM> but miner I guess
192001[20:36] <@WyzDM> okay
1921[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> i think you  guys mostly covered it
192201[20:36] <@WyzDM> oh and
1923[20:36] <Gale> miner lol
192401[20:36] <@WyzDM> delay in reconstruction
1925[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> lol
192601[20:36] <@WyzDM> anyway
1927[20:36] <[TZ]DAZ> wyz drunk in SE?
192801[20:37] <@WyzDM> So
192901[20:37] <@WyzDM> Keep it simple
193001[20:37] <@WyzDM> DO you want a name change (however simple or drastic)
193101[20:37] <@WyzDM> Say yes or no
1932[20:37] <Gale> Yes.
193301[20:37] <@WyzDM> I am personally not for it
193401[20:37] <@WyzDM> [TZ]DAZ and ItanoCircus?
1935[20:37] <[TZ]DAZ> No.
1936[20:37] <[TZ]DAZ> it's fine
1937[20:37] <[TZ]DAZ> but i don't mind, at the core
1938[20:38] <Gale> So you're either way I suppose
193901[20:38] <@WyzDM> Well so that means
1940[20:38] <Gale> Neutral 
194101[20:38] <@WyzDM> you're not against a name change?
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194301[20:38] <@WyzDM> RAINNN
1944[20:38] <Gale> Party is here
1945[20:38] <[TZ]DAZ> RAIN
1946[20:38] <[TZ]DAZ> FUCK
194701[20:38] <@WyzDM> Rain we just went over
1948[20:38] <[TZ]DAZ> we need you
1949[20:38] <[TZ]Rain> Oh, hello
195001[20:38] <@WyzDM> pros and cons for a site name change
195101[20:38] <@WyzDM> because we all talk about it
195201[20:38] <@WyzDM> but I wanted to organize our thoughts
1953[20:38] <[TZ]Rain> I see Mr Reid is here as well
195401[20:38] <@WyzDM> into something constructive
195501[20:38] <@WyzDM> Yes
195601[20:38] <@WyzDM> So Rain quick things we covered
1957[20:38] <ItanoCircus> I am ^^
1958[20:39] <Gale> Two seconds. Going to add all this to a pastebin so Rain can read.
1959[20:39] <[TZ]DAZ> gale
196001[20:39] <@WyzDM> Ty Gale
1961[20:39] <[TZ]Rain> Excellent
1962[20:39] <[TZ]DAZ> log it on the doc as well
196301[20:39] <@WyzDM> anyway
196401[20:39] <@WyzDM> quick pros n cons list
1965[20:39] <[TZ]Rain> Sorry, I've been busy the past two days
1966[20:39] <ItanoCircus> Shit, have to go.
1967[20:39] <Gale> I dc'ed so whatever before then I don't have
196801[20:39] <@WyzDM> for pros we had how it shows a new direction and purpose
196901[20:39] <@WyzDM> I got it
1970[20:39] <[TZ]Rain> The last time I talked to you on mobile was the most I could do
197102[20:39] * ItanoCircus (~qwebirc@Swift-E999D92C.panda-world.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: Page closed)
197201[20:39] <@WyzDM> sec
1973[20:39] <[TZ]Rain> for a while
1974[20:40] <Gale> http://pastebin.com/FuaYdwDX