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1[31/12/2014, 3:01:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: rather than "illegal situation"
2[31/12/2014, 3:01:59 AM] Tesseract: is that the incident they think was a rape/murder lol
3[31/12/2014, 3:02:02 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4[31/12/2014, 3:02:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
5[31/12/2014, 3:02:14 AM] Athena Hollow: they are the worst.
6[31/12/2014, 3:02:16 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
7[31/12/2014, 3:02:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Your involvement in this was what?
8[31/12/2014, 3:02:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: heard about it from our assistant to the head coach
9[31/12/2014, 3:02:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: best person to know on the team is the assistant to the head coach
10[31/12/2014, 3:02:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: you get ALL the gossip
11[31/12/2014, 3:02:43 AM] Peter Coffin: So you have nothing to do with it
12[31/12/2014, 3:02:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: and they love to talk to special teams
13[31/12/2014, 3:02:48 AM] Peter Coffin: And it's dull
14[31/12/2014, 3:02:48 AM] Athena Hollow: oh damn: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst LOL
15[31/12/2014, 3:02:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: not a thing
16[31/12/2014, 3:02:57 AM] Peter Coffin: Snooze
17[31/12/2014, 3:02:59 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
18[31/12/2014, 3:02:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh fuck
19[31/12/2014, 3:03:06 AM] Ian Cheong: POLYGON ACTUALLY WROTE AN ARTICLE CALLING OUT GG
20[31/12/2014, 3:03:08 AM] Tesseract: awwwww yeaahhhhhhh
21[31/12/2014, 3:03:09 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL YUP
22[31/12/2014, 3:03:13 AM] Ian Cheong: bout fucking TIME
23[31/12/2014, 3:03:14 AM] Peter Coffin: Now?
24[31/12/2014, 3:03:24 AM] Peter Coffin: Link
25[31/12/2014, 3:03:25 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, Kuchera has been calling them the fuck out on twitter for a while but yeahhhhh
26[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh yeah, i should probably call the cops today just in case
27[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Athena Hollow: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst
28[31/12/2014, 3:03:27 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.polygon.com/2014/12/30/7460777/gamergate-2014-just-the-worst
29[31/12/2014, 3:03:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: since they doxxed me in the chat last night
30[31/12/2014, 3:03:35 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah Chris.
31[31/12/2014, 3:03:37 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, but it's Kuchera.
32[31/12/2014, 3:03:39 AM] Ian Cheong: they did doxx you, that's fucked up
33[31/12/2014, 3:03:45 AM] Athena Hollow: Only took them HOW MANY MONTHS? lol
34[31/12/2014, 3:03:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, i highly doubt they're stupid enough to follow through on that one, but you never know
35[31/12/2014, 3:03:58 AM] Athena Hollow: I think it's hilarious that the dumb shit used the same name he uses on twitter
36[31/12/2014, 3:04:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: hell, i don't even know if Huntington Beach HAS a swat team
37[31/12/2014, 3:04:18 AM] Athena Hollow: heh.
38[31/12/2014, 3:04:21 AM] Rob: Oh shit, you got doxxed? I'm sorry, man
39[31/12/2014, 3:04:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I just found Kiwikku's comments in that thread. He told Mike the truth. It's amazing. See here: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550004284700389376
40[31/12/2014, 3:04:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: eh
41[31/12/2014, 3:04:26 AM] Rob: It's brutal when that happens
42[31/12/2014, 3:04:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: i was baiting them into it
43[31/12/2014, 3:04:30 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yeah.
44[31/12/2014, 3:04:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: and they were stupid enough to oblige
45[31/12/2014, 3:04:39 AM] Athena Hollow: but, I mean, you've been baiting them to do it for months XD
46[31/12/2014, 3:04:46 AM] Rob: Yeah
47[31/12/2014, 3:04:49 AM] Athena Hollow: and then a gger with his attached twitter handle... obliged.
48[31/12/2014, 3:04:54 AM] Athena Hollow: like a fucking numpty.
49[31/12/2014, 3:04:55 AM] Rob: And it's unlikely anything would happen, but yeah
50[31/12/2014, 3:05:43 AM] Rob: I think I'm gonna get another 16GB of RAM
51[31/12/2014, 3:05:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: on the plus side, by juicebro's definition, i can claim to have been swatted now!
52[31/12/2014, 3:05:54 AM] Rob: :d
53[31/12/2014, 3:06:14 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
54[31/12/2014, 3:06:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: maybe i'll write a piece on how Mike Cernovich tried to get me killed
55[31/12/2014, 3:06:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: i read that one he wrote to my wife last night and she's convinced he's crazy
56[31/12/2014, 3:07:12 AM] Rob: I wish I could code. I want to make a Tapper clone that's Juicebro running a juice bar trying to serve his magic juice but no one shows up during the course of the game so he just breaks down crying and then it turns into a long rant about how feminism and women have screwed him over and how it's all an SJW conspiracy
57[31/12/2014, 3:07:23 AM] Ian Cheong: haha
58[31/12/2014, 3:07:29 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
59[31/12/2014, 3:08:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
60[31/12/2014, 3:08:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry Chris
61[31/12/2014, 3:08:30 AM] Peter Coffin: Didn't realize you were doxxed
62[31/12/2014, 3:08:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: eh, comes with the territory
63[31/12/2014, 3:09:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: and, sadly, with our society being the way it is, when an ex-football player calls the cops about something like this, they're far more likely to actually pay attention :/
64[31/12/2014, 3:09:13 AM] Peter Coffin: True
65[31/12/2014, 3:09:25 AM] Rob: Yeah.
66[31/12/2014, 3:12:38 AM] Peter Coffin: That article is okay but first seem top mention child porn defense from my skim read
67[31/12/2014, 3:12:52 AM] Peter Coffin: That's a big one
68[31/12/2014, 3:13:33 AM] Ian Cheong: God Liana is so annoying.
69[31/12/2014, 3:13:50 AM] Ian Cheong: She butted in on a conversation to say that Gghazi was just as bad as gamergate.
70[31/12/2014, 3:14:16 AM] David Gallant: lol WHAT
71[31/12/2014, 3:14:20 AM] Rob: yeah fucking call me when gghazi runs multiple women out of their homes with death threats
72[31/12/2014, 3:14:43 AM] Athena Hollow: so full of shit.
73[31/12/2014, 3:15:01 AM] Athena Hollow: Because some people called her out on her fucking bullshit after it was posted on ghazi, she lost her cookies.
74[31/12/2014, 3:15:47 AM] Athena Hollow: nevermind that ghazi made a point to say "Let's not do this, ok" after Liana even HINTED towards it being people who visit ghazi...
75[31/12/2014, 3:15:58 AM] Athena Hollow: which is more than any gger has ever fucking done. Ugh. Fuck these people.
76[31/12/2014, 3:17:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qt9he/8chan_owner_and_gamergate_hero_hotwheels_writes/
77[31/12/2014, 3:17:57 AM] Rob: <3
78[31/12/2014, 3:18:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: i didn't want to read that piece
79[31/12/2014, 3:18:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: but i did
80[31/12/2014, 3:18:15 AM] Chris Kluwe: and it's depressing as fuck
81[31/12/2014, 3:18:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: you can see the self-loathing Hotwheels has
82[31/12/2014, 3:18:26 AM] Ian Cheong: Give us the cliff notes.
83[31/12/2014, 3:18:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: him and his brother were born with the bone defect
84[31/12/2014, 3:18:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: state gave dad sole custody
85[31/12/2014, 3:18:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: apparently dad wasn't a great dude
86[31/12/2014, 3:18:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: dad ships them off to foster care at 14
87[31/12/2014, 3:19:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: cue lifetime of self-loathing and wish for other people with genetic defects to have never been born
88[31/12/2014, 3:19:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: THEN POST IT ON NEO NAZI BOARD BECAUSE SURE WHY NOT
89[31/12/2014, 3:19:51 AM] Athena Hollow: heh
90[31/12/2014, 3:20:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Damn, Chris. That really is depressing.
91[31/12/2014, 3:20:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: and what i find depressing, is that it's so obvious that he needs therapy to deal with the fact his life has been fucked, but he won't go get it, and instead chooses the "horrible shit" path
92[31/12/2014, 3:20:28 AM] Rob: Yeah.
93[31/12/2014, 3:20:40 AM] Ian Cheong: I can semi-relate to that.
94[31/12/2014, 3:20:49 AM] Rob: Ditto.
95[31/12/2014, 3:20:57 AM] Rob: I did a lot of bad shit to compensate for bad upbringing.
96[31/12/2014, 3:21:04 AM] Rob: And to make myself feel good by hurting others.
97[31/12/2014, 3:21:53 AM] Athena Hollow: Advocating for all disabled folk to 'not have been born' seems like such a shitty route. Just... wtf... I get it, he has a horrific fucking disease, but how dare he try to argue that his experience means all disabled folk shouldn't exist.
98[31/12/2014, 3:21:54 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
99[31/12/2014, 3:22:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: it sucks, because we should, as a species, have systems in place to deal with that. but we don't, because that costs money :/
100[31/12/2014, 3:22:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: and yeah athena, that's what makes it so bad
101[31/12/2014, 3:22:27 AM] Rob: Universal healthcare FTW
102[31/12/2014, 3:22:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: like, the small amount of sympathy i feel is wiped out by the "well,my life sucked, so lets kill everyone else"
103[31/12/2014, 3:22:43 AM] Rob: Yeah.
104[31/12/2014, 3:23:00 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, that I definitely can't relate to. Haha.
105[31/12/2014, 3:23:01 AM] Peter Coffin: then there's this hatred game now
106[31/12/2014, 3:23:03 AM] Peter Coffin: that helps
107[31/12/2014, 3:23:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: because ETHICS!
108[31/12/2014, 3:23:40 AM] Rob: The forum is what bugs me the most
109[31/12/2014, 3:23:59 AM] Ian Cheong: If you think the forum is bad, wait till they implement Steam Workshop support.
110[31/12/2014, 3:24:04 AM] Rob: The game is meh to me. The 'LET'S PUT IN SJWS TO KILL' thing is alarming
111[31/12/2014, 3:24:07 AM] Rob: oh god
112[31/12/2014, 3:24:10 AM] Ian Cheong: They'll put me and Zoe in the game to shoot and kill.
113[31/12/2014, 3:24:22 AM] Ian Cheong: Because why not, right?
114[31/12/2014, 3:24:32 AM] Rob: Actually knowing you all and talking to you all makes this shit so much more real
115[31/12/2014, 3:24:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: "IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S REAL LIFE JEEZ"
116[31/12/2014, 3:24:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: idiots
117[31/12/2014, 3:24:51 AM] Rob: The meanest part of me, when they say that shit?
118[31/12/2014, 3:24:54 AM] Athena Hollow: "Here, let me show up to your work and make sure I post it MULTIPLE TIMES so you see it"
119[31/12/2014, 3:24:57 AM] Athena Hollow: lulz!!!!!!!!!!!
120[31/12/2014, 3:24:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
121[31/12/2014, 3:25:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the hardest part, is actually not using their tactics
122[31/12/2014, 3:25:13 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yea
123[31/12/2014, 3:25:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: because it would be so satisfying
124[31/12/2014, 3:25:20 AM] Rob: It makes me want to make like... "Total Biscuit Has to Strangle Puppies in Order to Achieve Orgasm: The Tophattening"
125[31/12/2014, 3:25:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: but goddamn are they ethically bankrupt
126[31/12/2014, 3:25:31 AM] Rob: And see if he's all FREEZE PEACH ARTISTIC FREEDOm then.
127[31/12/2014, 3:25:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: rofl rob
128[31/12/2014, 3:25:46 AM] Ian Cheong: It's messed up and shouldn't come under the protection of free speech.
129[31/12/2014, 3:25:48 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah I'll likely make a video Ian
130[31/12/2014, 3:25:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: he'd be the first one in line with a DMCA takedown
131[31/12/2014, 3:25:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): There were a few requests to make Veerender a killable character, too :/
132[31/12/2014, 3:26:00 AM] Rob: Damn straight he would, Chris, lol
133[31/12/2014, 3:26:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Veerender never hurt anyone.
134[31/12/2014, 3:26:19 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. fucking hell.
135[31/12/2014, 3:26:20 AM] Rob: and why it's a pretty disturbing and sick thing to me
136[31/12/2014, 3:26:23 AM] Rob: If that'd help at all?
137[31/12/2014, 3:26:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Vj is a lovely person
138[31/12/2014, 3:26:34 AM] Athena Hollow: can we just, like, set the internet on fire and start over?
139[31/12/2014, 3:26:40 AM] Peter Coffin: People who mess with him deserve top burn
140[31/12/2014, 3:26:48 AM] Peter Coffin: To
141[31/12/2014, 3:26:54 AM] Rob: Top Burn is good too.
142[31/12/2014, 3:26:56 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
143[31/12/2014, 3:27:06 AM] Athena Hollow: it's like 'top kek' but less douchey
144[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 AM] Peter Coffin: It's like top kek
145[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 AM] Rob: hrm, what groceries do I want to order
146[31/12/2014, 3:27:15 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah
147[31/12/2014, 3:27:15 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
148[31/12/2014, 3:27:20 AM] Athena Hollow: vodka?
149[31/12/2014, 3:27:27 AM] Rob: I can't order liquor online :C
150[31/12/2014, 3:27:32 AM] Peter Coffin: Damn mobile
151[31/12/2014, 3:27:36 AM] Rob: but I'll either run by the duty free or the liquor store ont he way home.
152[31/12/2014, 3:27:42 AM] live:riotarms: Yoooo
153[31/12/2014, 3:27:47 AM] Rob: Hey, James.
154[31/12/2014, 3:27:52 AM] Peter Coffin: Yo James
155[31/12/2014, 3:28:01 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey Knife Horse.
156[31/12/2014, 3:28:07 AM] David Gallant: Fried tofu, bok choy, bean sprouts... you know,  the essentials.
157[31/12/2014, 3:28:14 AM] Rob: :C
158[31/12/2014, 3:28:18 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
159[31/12/2014, 3:28:19 AM] Ian Cheong: Did you folks see what I got as a late Christmas gift?
160[31/12/2014, 3:28:25 AM] Peter Coffin: What
161[31/12/2014, 3:28:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): a pony?
162[31/12/2014, 3:28:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Ian is not a brony
163[31/12/2014, 3:28:47 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/549921847194562560
164[31/12/2014, 3:28:49 AM] Rob: Your very own Fisto robot?
165[31/12/2014, 3:28:54 AM] Ian Cheong: This is what I got.
166[31/12/2014, 3:28:58 AM] David Gallant: Ian - GG admitting you're not a Nazi?
167[31/12/2014, 3:29:07 AM] Peter Coffin: That's slick Ian
168[31/12/2014, 3:29:16 AM] David Gallant: Aha, the pipe.
169[31/12/2014, 3:29:20 AM] David Gallant: That explains a bit.
170[31/12/2014, 3:29:21 AM] Ian Cheong: David: One main GGer admitted that. Also Sargon admitted it to me awhile back.
171[31/12/2014, 3:29:26 AM] Rob: Dude, nice, ian
172[31/12/2014, 3:29:39 AM] David Gallant: Ian - wow, so pigs DO fly.
173[31/12/2014, 3:29:45 AM] Athena Hollow: This message has been removed.
174[31/12/2014, 3:29:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Wait, what revenge porn site?
175[31/12/2014, 3:30:02 AM] Rob: One thing I'm gonna miss about my parent's house - fresh eggs from the chickens
176[31/12/2014, 3:30:15 AM] Athena Hollow: This message has been removed.
177[31/12/2014, 3:30:24 AM] Rob: WTF
178[31/12/2014, 3:30:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No. that was another GGer
179[31/12/2014, 3:30:31 AM] Athena Hollow: oh i thought it was sargon?
180[31/12/2014, 3:30:31 AM] Ian Cheong: No, that has to be another GGer.
181[31/12/2014, 3:30:37 AM] Athena Hollow: i could have sworn it was.
182[31/12/2014, 3:30:39 AM] David Gallant: Sargas. FOrcedSargas.
183[31/12/2014, 3:30:42 AM] Athena Hollow: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
184[31/12/2014, 3:30:44 AM] Athena Hollow: nm.
185[31/12/2014, 3:30:49 AM] live:riotarms: Sort of amazing how few of these people are gamers isn't it
186[31/12/2014, 3:30:49 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn these people and their similar names
187[31/12/2014, 3:30:51 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahah
188[31/12/2014, 3:31:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): how weird!
189[31/12/2014, 3:31:21 AM] Athena Hollow: {{previous comments deleted so I don't confuse it again lol}}
190[31/12/2014, 3:31:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): why would he be a GGer?????
191[31/12/2014, 3:31:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: isn't ForceSargeras the one that Randi owned in WoW?
192[31/12/2014, 3:31:33 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
193[31/12/2014, 3:31:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): one of them
194[31/12/2014, 3:31:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
195[31/12/2014, 3:31:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
196[31/12/2014, 3:31:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
197[31/12/2014, 3:31:40 AM] Ian Cheong: hahaha
198[31/12/2014, 3:32:03 AM] Athena Hollow: he's scummyscumscum in every sense of the word.
199[31/12/2014, 3:32:03 AM] Ian Cheong: Here's me smoking my pipe for the first time kinda wrong. https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/549925847415537665
200[31/12/2014, 3:32:20 AM] live:riotarms: If there's one thing I wish had gone down differently about the response to GG it's the "gamers are over" stuff because very few of the leaders are into games
201[31/12/2014, 3:32:43 AM] Athena Hollow: god their fucking "FEMINISTS ARE COMING IN WHO AREN'T GAMERS!" bullshit
202[31/12/2014, 3:33:06 AM] Athena Hollow: And their shitty leaders parrot this crap
203[31/12/2014, 3:33:08 AM] live:riotarms: Fake gamer boys
204[31/12/2014, 3:33:13 AM] Athena Hollow: after flat out saying they themselves aren't gamers.
205[31/12/2014, 3:33:15 AM] Athena Hollow: Like... wtf?!
206[31/12/2014, 3:33:37 AM] live:riotarms: A fun game is to compare Nero and DigimonOtis
207[31/12/2014, 3:33:58 AM] Ian Cheong: Who?
208[31/12/2014, 3:34:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Literally who is DigmonOtis
209[31/12/2014, 3:34:33 AM] live:riotarms: A conservative digimon fan who may or may not be a dril account
210[31/12/2014, 3:34:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
211[31/12/2014, 3:34:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
212[31/12/2014, 3:34:45 AM] Ian Cheong: hah
213[31/12/2014, 3:34:57 AM] Athena Hollow: his DA article was word vomit & lesbian attacks.
214[31/12/2014, 3:35:21 AM] Athena Hollow: The "quit forcing LGBT characters down children's throats!" on a rated MA game was the cherry on top of a shit sundae.
215[31/12/2014, 3:35:25 AM] live:riotarms: I wonder how many people have unfollowed drilbert since I queued up all those Milo memes
216[31/12/2014, 3:39:10 AM] Quinnae: Howdy all.
217[31/12/2014, 3:39:24 AM] Athena Hollow: Morning, Katherine.
218[31/12/2014, 3:39:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey Kath.
219[31/12/2014, 3:39:27 AM] Quinnae: Oh joy, someone on TechRaptor wrote a hit piece about me.
220[31/12/2014, 3:39:33 AM] Ian Cheong: Seriously?
221[31/12/2014, 3:39:35 AM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake
222[31/12/2014, 3:39:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine did they ask you first?
223[31/12/2014, 3:39:53 AM] Athena Hollow: they make TMZ look ethical.
224[31/12/2014, 3:40:04 AM] Quinnae: http://techraptor.net/content/imo-anti-intellectuals-anti-gamergate
225[31/12/2014, 3:40:26 AM] Quinnae: Nope, although the author did pop into my mentions to link the article and ask for a debate. :P
226[31/12/2014, 3:40:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ETHICS
227[31/12/2014, 3:40:38 AM] Athena Hollow: I think my retinas detached from the eye rolling over that title.
228[31/12/2014, 3:41:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL: "Great article. The hypocrisy and lack of self-awareness that these people show will never cease to be astounding."
229[31/12/2014, 3:41:25 AM] Quinnae: Wondering if I should just ignore it or make fun of it on my Twitter. :P
230[31/12/2014, 3:41:42 AM] Ian Cheong: IGnore it. Why give them the attention.
231[31/12/2014, 3:41:59 AM] Ian Cheong: They're a bunch of nobodies.
232[31/12/2014, 3:42:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol i sort of made fun of it but i have them all blocked.
233[31/12/2014, 3:42:21 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/550013899236704257
234[31/12/2014, 3:42:51 AM] Quinnae: Also, bonus...
235[31/12/2014, 3:42:55 AM] live:riotarms: Ah sucks, japanese rival schools is text heavy as hell
236[31/12/2014, 3:43:07 AM] Quinnae: Note at the end, he cites my essay We Will Force Gaming to Be Free.
237[31/12/2014, 3:43:15 AM] live:riotarms: And I forgot you have to manually save in those games
238[31/12/2014, 3:43:26 AM] Quinnae: Like the greatest minds on 8chan, he mistook the title for my personal sentiment, ignoring the quotation marks. :P
239[31/12/2014, 3:43:42 AM] Ian Cheong: He probably never read it.
240[31/12/2014, 3:43:43 AM] live:riotarms: This is a giant wall of word salad
241[31/12/2014, 3:43:52 AM] Rob: Hey katherine
242[31/12/2014, 3:43:55 AM] Rob: Want me to make fun of them?
243[31/12/2014, 3:43:56 AM] Ian Cheong: Isn't TechRaptor the same folks who took "death of the author" literally?
244[31/12/2014, 3:43:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Or am I thinking of another GG website?
245[31/12/2014, 3:44:06 AM] Athena Hollow: nope. that's them.
246[31/12/2014, 3:44:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Make fun of them for that.
247[31/12/2014, 3:44:14 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
248[31/12/2014, 3:44:22 AM] Athena Hollow: they were just made fun of for it yesterday too XD
249[31/12/2014, 3:44:26 AM] Quinnae: You can make fun of them if you wish, Rob.
250[31/12/2014, 3:44:28 AM] Athena Hollow: they are terrible.
251[31/12/2014, 3:44:35 AM] Quinnae: I think I should stay out of the fray as Ian suggested.
252[31/12/2014, 3:44:37 AM] Peter Coffin: Hey Katherine
253[31/12/2014, 3:44:37 AM] Athena Hollow: :)
254[31/12/2014, 3:44:43 AM] Rob: Yeah. You shouldn't get invovled
255[31/12/2014, 3:44:45 AM] Quinnae: Hey Peter. :)
256[31/12/2014, 3:44:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550014579720617985
257[31/12/2014, 3:44:50 AM] Rob: If you'd take pleasure at them being made fun of, though....
258[31/12/2014, 3:45:15 AM] Athena Hollow: lmao izzy
259[31/12/2014, 3:45:29 AM] Ian Cheong: Kuchera is going all out against GamerGate today
260[31/12/2014, 3:45:30 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/BenKuchera/status/550014674025340928
261[31/12/2014, 3:45:44 AM] Ian Cheong: In addition to that article he wrote.
262[31/12/2014, 3:45:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550014844024659971
263[31/12/2014, 3:46:07 AM] Tesseract: here's another thing to make fun of techraptor for http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qau3v/imo_because_of_gamergate_were_all_republicans_now/
264[31/12/2014, 3:48:50 AM] Charloppe: back
265[31/12/2014, 3:49:07 AM] Rob: I just want to tweet out like
266[31/12/2014, 3:49:31 AM] Quinnae: Hi Charlotte!
267[31/12/2014, 3:49:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550015741366657024
268[31/12/2014, 3:49:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: ugh. that techraptr article. IT'S WRITTEN SO POORLY
269[31/12/2014, 3:49:43 AM] Rob: Hilarious. @techraptor whines about "anti-intellectuals" while bashing academia repeatedly in this article. http://techraptor.net/content/imo-anti-intellectuals-anti-gamergate
270[31/12/2014, 3:49:44 AM] Rob: or something
271[31/12/2014, 3:49:46 AM] Charloppe: Hello!
272[31/12/2014, 3:49:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. I think I did a good job of satirizing TechRaptor's writers. (cat)
273[31/12/2014, 3:50:25 AM] Ian Cheong: 40 minutes till Zoe's article goes up on Giant Bomb
274[31/12/2014, 3:50:28 AM] Ian Cheong: prepare for gator tears.
275[31/12/2014, 3:50:34 AM] Quinnae: Also, the idea that I can't be a sociologist due to lacking a Ph.D... more misunderstanding of academia. I'm published already as the sole author of a couple of papers. :P
276[31/12/2014, 3:50:42 AM] Quinnae: Oh my! That should be fun.
277[31/12/2014, 3:50:48 AM] Ian Cheong: It's just a top 10 list of games.
278[31/12/2014, 3:50:51 AM] Ian Cheong: it's a good list!
279[31/12/2014, 3:50:52 AM] Rob: Or. Hrm.
280[31/12/2014, 3:50:59 AM] Ian Cheong: archive it first, Rob.
281[31/12/2014, 3:51:11 AM] Rob: "Hey, @techraptor. If you want to whine about anti-intellectuals and trash academics, learn about academia first."
282[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 AM] SF: 1800 notes, did I miss anything important?
283[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 AM] Rob: archive what?
284[31/12/2014, 3:51:21 AM] Ian Cheong: the TR article.
285[31/12/2014, 3:51:24 AM] Rob: Oh
286[31/12/2014, 3:51:31 AM] Rob: I may just not link to it
287[31/12/2014, 3:51:36 AM] Rob: And be vague and annoy them.
288[31/12/2014, 3:51:58 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
289[31/12/2014, 3:52:11 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/H48yk
290[31/12/2014, 3:52:18 AM] SF: "a self-proclaimed “academic” who’s missing the key credential academics in virtually every field must have, a PhD."
291[31/12/2014, 3:52:19 AM] Athena Hollow: already had it LOL
292[31/12/2014, 3:52:25 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah, they dumb.
293[31/12/2014, 3:52:27 AM] SF: Yeah this sounds about as convincing as I expected.
294[31/12/2014, 3:52:29 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
295[31/12/2014, 3:52:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Someone is jealous of Katherine's success
296[31/12/2014, 3:52:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sounds about right
297[31/12/2014, 3:52:56 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, they couldn't even take properly scaled screen shots of twitter so it doesn't look like a blurry mess ffs.
298[31/12/2014, 3:52:58 AM] SF: And it's just more hypocritical blocker whining.
299[31/12/2014, 3:53:03 AM] Athena Hollow: but they totally understand academia.
300[31/12/2014, 3:53:44 AM] Rob: Hrm
301[31/12/2014, 3:53:47 AM] SF: I just heard about the Dexter actress passing away :(
302[31/12/2014, 3:53:50 AM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake. STOP TALKING YOU RACIST SEXIST DOUCHEBAG J_MILLERWORKS
303[31/12/2014, 3:53:55 AM] Rob: "Hey, @techraptrr, if you want to diss academics and call them "anti-intellectuals", learn something about fucking academia first, assholes." is the best I can do in my state right now.
304[31/12/2014, 3:54:04 AM] Rob: I haven't had any coffee and I've been up for like 10 hours :C
305[31/12/2014, 3:54:20 AM] Quinnae: Hehe, thanks Rob
306[31/12/2014, 3:54:30 AM] Rob: Does that sound right?
307[31/12/2014, 3:54:37 AM] Athena Hollow: god they are eating this shit up
308[31/12/2014, 3:54:43 AM] Athena Hollow: he wasn't fucking fired because he was a gater
309[31/12/2014, 3:54:47 AM] Quinnae: And thanks everyone! Yeah, Rob, sounds good :)
310[31/12/2014, 3:54:57 AM] SF: I'll always remember her as Bunnie in the least awful Sonic cartoon. She was so distinctive.
311[31/12/2014, 3:54:58 AM] Quinnae: Athena, are you talking about the NYS chap?
312[31/12/2014, 3:55:01 AM] Athena Hollow: he was fired because his freelance gig writing for a website WAS ATTACHED TO HIS TWITTER PROFILE THAT WAS GROSS
313[31/12/2014, 3:55:03 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
314[31/12/2014, 3:55:13 AM] Athena Hollow: i hate that guy.
315[31/12/2014, 3:55:22 AM] Quinnae: Mhmm, I'm less than fond myself.
316[31/12/2014, 3:55:35 AM] Rob: Aaaand tweeted
317[31/12/2014, 3:55:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he's racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, ablist, the works
318[31/12/2014, 3:55:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG loves him, unsurprisingly
319[31/12/2014, 3:56:00 AM] Peter Coffin: Sounds like a shock
320[31/12/2014, 3:56:01 AM] Athena Hollow: ughhhh i wanna respond sooo baddddd but i dont wanna deal with gg bullshit LOL
321[31/12/2014, 3:56:05 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm shocked
322[31/12/2014, 3:57:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: "REMEMBER EVERYONE MIKE C AND THE OTHERS ARE TOTES ABOUT OUR CAUSE"
323[31/12/2014, 3:57:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: "NOT THE MONIES"
324[31/12/2014, 3:58:04 AM] Rob: :D
325[31/12/2014, 3:58:28 AM] Peter Coffin: Dollar bills y'all
326[31/12/2014, 3:58:44 AM] Peter Coffin: I know
327[31/12/2014, 3:58:46 AM] SF: Look at the downvotes heh.
328[31/12/2014, 3:58:56 AM] Peter Coffin: Gg just fucked gaming back 5 years
329[31/12/2014, 3:59:02 AM] Peter Coffin: Yippee
330[31/12/2014, 3:59:02 AM] Ian Cheong: try ten years.
331[31/12/2014, 3:59:12 AM] Peter Coffin: Maybe
332[31/12/2014, 3:59:29 AM] Peter Coffin: The last five had been some pretty big strides
333[31/12/2014, 3:59:33 AM] Athena Hollow: The one good thing they've done is prove we aren't fucking crazy and yelling at clouds when we say these elements exist.
334[31/12/2014, 3:59:43 AM] SF: Let's set it back another 10 then we'll be in the 90s.
335[31/12/2014, 3:59:44 AM] Peter Coffin: True
336[31/12/2014, 4:00:01 AM] Athena Hollow: And with high profile voices calling them out, I think it'll end up being a step forward within the next year.
337[31/12/2014, 4:00:13 AM] Peter Coffin: The last five also had retake though
338[31/12/2014, 4:00:15 AM] Athena Hollow: as opposed to the stagnant wasteland it had been dwelling in.
339[31/12/2014, 4:00:27 AM] Peter Coffin: And Jennifer Heller
340[31/12/2014, 4:00:30 AM] Peter Coffin: Helper
341[31/12/2014, 4:00:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Hepler.
342[31/12/2014, 4:00:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
343[31/12/2014, 4:00:39 AM] Tesseract: yeah if gg set gaming back 10 years, good, the past 10 years have been shit
344[31/12/2014, 4:00:42 AM] live:riotarms: GG was sort of inevitable, I think
345[31/12/2014, 4:00:43 AM] Athena Hollow: DEVI OLIBER
346[31/12/2014, 4:00:45 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
347[31/12/2014, 4:00:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry mobile hates everything
348[31/12/2014, 4:00:59 AM] Quinnae: I'm surprised he hasn't called her Devi Belieber yet.
349[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 AM] Athena Hollow: hhahah
350[31/12/2014, 4:01:03 AM] Peter Coffin: Dervlin Berblis
351[31/12/2014, 4:01:08 AM] live:riotarms: It's not good that it was inevitable but this was going to come to a head somehow
352[31/12/2014, 4:01:09 AM] Athena Hollow: how fucking hard is "EVER" how is that hard!?
353[31/12/2014, 4:01:11 AM] Ian Cheong: Dobby Oliver
354[31/12/2014, 4:01:23 AM] live:riotarms: Derby Auger
355[31/12/2014, 4:01:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Dippy Onion
356[31/12/2014, 4:01:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Dopie Erderder
357[31/12/2014, 4:01:51 AM] Peter Coffin: This would do be bullying in a different contact
358[31/12/2014, 4:01:56 AM] Peter Coffin: Context
359[31/12/2014, 4:02:00 AM] Ian Cheong: Haha, yeah.
360[31/12/2014, 4:02:02 AM] Peter Coffin: So
361[31/12/2014, 4:02:08 AM] Peter Coffin: Maybe
362[31/12/2014, 4:02:12 AM] Peter Coffin: In
363[31/12/2014, 4:02:15 AM] SF: Lousy that the Bloomberg lady still states the misleading figure about mobile gaming being where all the women are.
364[31/12/2014, 4:02:18 AM] Peter Coffin: Their
365[31/12/2014, 4:02:19 AM] SF: Ignoring RPGs, MMOs, etc.
366[31/12/2014, 4:02:21 AM] Rob: are we making fun of benedict cumberbatch
367[31/12/2014, 4:02:23 AM] Peter Coffin: Context
368[31/12/2014, 4:02:28 AM] Athena Hollow: we're literally 50% of pc gamers
369[31/12/2014, 4:02:33 AM] Athena Hollow: fucking assholes.
370[31/12/2014, 4:02:49 AM] Athena Hollow: and split 50/50 on men & women as far as 'casual' goes too
371[31/12/2014, 4:03:12 AM] Peter Coffin: Also her name is not devi anymore and they just hate respecting that
372[31/12/2014, 4:03:19 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
373[31/12/2014, 4:03:24 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah it's Grace Lynn
374[31/12/2014, 4:03:34 AM] Peter Coffin: They would not even respect me saying I don't want one calling me mate
375[31/12/2014, 4:03:47 AM] Athena Hollow: "Was she that one or the one who lied about her surgery" GO FUCK YOURSELFFFFF MIKEEEEEEE
376[31/12/2014, 4:03:50 AM] Peter Coffin: He literally made a point to call me mate the rest of the day
377[31/12/2014, 4:04:03 AM] Ian Cheong: oh wtf
378[31/12/2014, 4:04:06 AM] Ian Cheong: huge argument going on in my mentions
379[31/12/2014, 4:04:08 AM] Peter Coffin: What
380[31/12/2014, 4:04:10 AM] Athena Hollow: ??
381[31/12/2014, 4:04:15 AM] Ian Cheong: no idea
382[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Hmm
383[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
384[31/12/2014, 4:04:29 AM] Athena Hollow: i had some of that earlier after I went off on gg for being transphobic shits.
385[31/12/2014, 4:04:38 AM] Athena Hollow: luckily most poeple tapped me out (though some was ok lol)
386[31/12/2014, 4:05:08 AM] SF: She's said she considers Devi as bad as deadnaming her.
387[31/12/2014, 4:05:19 AM] SF: I don't even think I'm going to give that TR article any attention.
388[31/12/2014, 4:05:25 AM] Athena Hollow: it's so dumb lol
389[31/12/2014, 4:05:35 AM] Athena Hollow: so, ya know, on par w/ their usual "I don't get stuff" articles
390[31/12/2014, 4:05:40 AM] live:riotarms: I hope grace is doing OK
391[31/12/2014, 4:05:51 AM] live:riotarms: They need to leave her the fuck alone
392[31/12/2014, 4:06:15 AM] live:riotarms: Ian, you might dig this, I just remembered it exists Haruomi Hosono - Super Xevious: http://youtu.be/8m4deQO2-pI
393[31/12/2014, 4:06:37 AM] Ian Cheong: ill check it out
394[31/12/2014, 4:06:38 AM] Tesseract: brianna got modded on ghazi
395[31/12/2014, 4:06:56 AM] live:riotarms: Member of YMO remixed the Xevious music and I think they also made a fake language as part of some 80s project
396[31/12/2014, 4:07:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh TEss
397[31/12/2014, 4:07:59 AM] Ian Cheong: that's a bad decision
398[31/12/2014, 4:08:04 AM] Ian Cheong: she is a loose cannon
399[31/12/2014, 4:10:12 AM] David Gallant: What exactly will mod status allow her to do?
400[31/12/2014, 4:10:18 AM] Ian Cheong: delete posts.
401[31/12/2014, 4:10:21 AM] Ian Cheong: censor people.
402[31/12/2014, 4:10:27 AM] Ian Cheong: approve posts
403[31/12/2014, 4:10:37 AM] Quinnae: I did note that. I'll try and counsel her a bit on that.
404[31/12/2014, 4:10:44 AM] Quinnae: Frankly I'm disappointed she accepted.
405[31/12/2014, 4:10:49 AM] Ian Cheong: give people flairs (text next to their names)
406[31/12/2014, 4:11:08 AM] David Gallant: Seems weird she would accept that mod position when she's trying to focus more on making games.
407[31/12/2014, 4:11:39 AM] Ian Cheong: This message has been removed.
408[31/12/2014, 4:12:40 AM] Rob: I don't like positions of authority being given out unless the person is going to use them (and well)
409[31/12/2014, 4:12:54 AM] Rob: it's why I always ran kicking and screaming when people wanted to make me an officer in games like WoW and shit
410[31/12/2014, 4:13:04 AM] Ian Cheong: i mean, im fine with inactive mods not doing anything, but it's kinda iffy when a person has a history of being a loose cannon.
411[31/12/2014, 4:15:21 AM] Ian Cheong: Hand me your gun and badge!
412[31/12/2014, 4:15:45 AM] Rob: :D
413[31/12/2014, 4:15:50 AM] Rob: Oh man Ian
414[31/12/2014, 4:15:58 AM] Rob: I just pictured the McGarnigle scenes from Simpsons
415[31/12/2014, 4:17:11 AM] Rob: "You're off the case, McGarnigle."
416"You're off YOUR case, chief!"
417[31/12/2014, 4:17:15 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/DiscordianKitty/status/550021014810525696
418[31/12/2014, 4:17:17 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAH
419[31/12/2014, 4:18:20 AM] David Gallant: I thought "louse" was the singular of "lice"
420[31/12/2014, 4:18:49 AM] Athena Hollow: lol it is, she's mostly just poking fun at occulass terrible spelling.
421[31/12/2014, 4:19:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Also, why the fuck is Occulass back on under a new name? I thought thriff was permabanned?
422[31/12/2014, 4:19:08 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, I know, but then she goes "louses"
423[31/12/2014, 4:19:30 AM] Ian Cheong: delouisineal
424[31/12/2014, 4:19:32 AM] Athena Hollow: I think if she'd said "lice" they'd have not gotten it XD
425[31/12/2014, 4:19:57 AM] Ian Cheong: http://thefineyoungcapitalists.tumblr.com/post/106626400895/porn-charity-information
426[31/12/2014, 4:20:23 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/550023477043163136
427[31/12/2014, 4:20:24 AM] Athena Hollow: "will be moved to a Nonprofit Foundation to fund a merit-based STEM scholarship fund called the “2nd Circle.” The Fine Young Capitalists will be in charge of managing the creation of this foundation as well as handling the creation and distribution of any prizes."
428[31/12/2014, 4:20:24 AM] Ian Cheong: Another way for Matt to make money
429[31/12/2014, 4:20:25 AM] Rob: HEY LOOK ITS SARGON
430[31/12/2014, 4:20:29 AM] Athena Hollow: ummmmmmm it doesnt work that way guys.
431[31/12/2014, 4:20:45 AM] live:riotarms: Matt is such a slimeball
432[31/12/2014, 4:20:48 AM] Charloppe: headesk
433[31/12/2014, 4:21:06 AM] Athena Hollow: merit-based stem scholarship fund.
434[31/12/2014, 4:21:06 AM] Tesseract: I like how they're careful to not call it a charity in their own words
435[31/12/2014, 4:21:09 AM] Charloppe: oh pls sargon show me your wisdom
436[31/12/2014, 4:21:09 AM] Ian Cheong: Applicants will be required to submit a copy of their most recent report card/transcript, a resume, and write a short essay about why they should be chosen for the program. Each section will be scored individually and the total score will be used to chose the student most deserving of the scholarship. Participants will be able to apply online, with final application details being verified by agents of the “2nd Circle Scholarship.”
437[31/12/2014, 4:21:18 AM] Ian Cheong: With people that only Matt can verify, is my guess.
438[31/12/2014, 4:21:32 AM] Athena Hollow: just ugh.
439[31/12/2014, 4:21:44 AM] live:riotarms: He's verifying a trust?
440[31/12/2014, 4:21:45 AM] Athena Hollow: butttttt they are promoting it through theporncharity.org
441[31/12/2014, 4:21:56 AM] David Gallant: Last question, "Will Matt be involved?" He knows he's anathema to everything they do.
442[31/12/2014, 4:21:57 AM] Athena Hollow: there has GOT to be a way to get canadian authorties to say "Oh hell naw"
443[31/12/2014, 4:22:07 AM] live:riotarms: How long before porngate is a thing
444[31/12/2014, 4:22:15 AM] David Gallant: I don't think they're a registered charity.
445[31/12/2014, 4:22:19 AM] Athena Hollow: they tried that shit. it failed because porn is so disjointed.
446[31/12/2014, 4:22:23 AM] Ian Cheong: Will Matt be engaging in the stream:
447Matt will be doing the account and book keeping for the project and will not be attending the stream.
448[31/12/2014, 4:22:27 AM] Rob: Ooooh this is gonna be fun
449[31/12/2014, 4:22:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: taking the kids to the park, be back later
450[31/12/2014, 4:22:33 AM] Athena Hollow: There's way too many people like me in the porn  industry lol
451[31/12/2014, 4:22:34 AM] Athena Hollow: kk
452[31/12/2014, 4:22:36 AM] Ian Cheong: Have fun Chris.
453[31/12/2014, 4:22:55 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, crap. Chris left right when I reached.
454[31/12/2014, 4:23:17 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I had to tell him how amazing he did in the video.
455[31/12/2014, 4:23:50 AM] Veerender Jubbal: How is everyone doing?
456[31/12/2014, 4:24:02 AM] live:riotarms: I bought five psone games today and three are old school shumps
457[31/12/2014, 4:24:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Sweet!
458[31/12/2014, 4:24:28 AM] live:riotarms: Xevious 3D, Thunderforce V, Darius G
459[31/12/2014, 4:24:45 AM] Ian Cheong: This TheonGryJy guy on KIA thinks Patrick Klepek is in trouble with the law because of GamerGate.
460[31/12/2014, 4:24:46 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qu6b0/might_need_more_confirmation_patrick_klepek_left/cn9k1f2
461[31/12/2014, 4:25:00 AM] live:riotarms: I miss having shooters that aren't just copy and paste bullet hell full of moe ankme
462[31/12/2014, 4:25:03 AM] Ian Cheong: And that is the real reason he left GB
463[31/12/2014, 4:25:40 AM] Athena Hollow: HHAHAHAHHA
464[31/12/2014, 4:25:43 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn they are delusional
465[31/12/2014, 4:25:51 AM] Athena Hollow: he flat out said he was going to be still writing
466[31/12/2014, 4:25:54 AM] Athena Hollow: just not on GB XD
467[31/12/2014, 4:27:40 AM] Quinnae: waves!
468[31/12/2014, 4:27:43 AM] Quinnae: Hey Veerender.
469[31/12/2014, 4:27:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: waves
470[31/12/2014, 4:27:55 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I just woke up.
471[31/12/2014, 4:28:08 AM] Veerender Jubbal: My image of Chris spread, and people are mad at me.
472[31/12/2014, 4:28:18 AM] Athena Hollow: of course they are
473[31/12/2014, 4:28:30 AM] Athena Hollow: they're giant flaming assholes lol
474[31/12/2014, 4:29:37 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550025584227520512
475[31/12/2014, 4:29:39 AM] Rob: This is fun
476[31/12/2014, 4:30:25 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
477[31/12/2014, 4:30:41 AM] Rob: I'm wasting the shit out of his time, too
478[31/12/2014, 4:31:06 AM] Charloppe: friends, I am retiring being a gg mole. its to much stupid for one little mole
479[31/12/2014, 4:31:09 AM] live:riotarms: Re: time wasting
480[31/12/2014, 4:31:14 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
481[31/12/2014, 4:31:30 AM] Charloppe: i fully accept being a eeeeevil sjw
482[31/12/2014, 4:31:34 AM] live:riotarms: What I like to do is keep tagging them in as I'm arguing
483[31/12/2014, 4:31:39 AM] Quinnae: Can you be a mole emeritus?
484[31/12/2014, 4:31:41 AM] Athena Hollow: I think this is one of my favorite tweets you've ever posted, Rob https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550024075653816320
485[31/12/2014, 4:31:43 AM] Quinnae: I want to keep tossing you.
486[31/12/2014, 4:31:49 AM] Rob: I'm just making him sit here and keep replying to me
487[31/12/2014, 4:31:51 AM] Rob: I hope he makes a video about it.
488[31/12/2014, 4:31:55 AM] live:riotarms: More and more show up and it's usually so easy to keep them spinning
489[31/12/2014, 4:31:57 AM] Charloppe: only if you toss me a ggs!
490[31/12/2014, 4:31:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs Charlotte
491[31/12/2014, 4:32:45 AM] Charloppe: also yes katherine :3
492[31/12/2014, 4:32:57 AM] Rob: Hey veerender, next time I can make a party based game where I get to name people, you're joining the party again
493[31/12/2014, 4:32:58 AM] Quinnae: But yeah, probably a good idea Charlotte. hugs You've mole'd enough, methinks.
494[31/12/2014, 4:33:01 AM] Charloppe: from now on I'm just a mole
495[31/12/2014, 4:33:10 AM] Rob: Naming my ship after you in ur-quan masters helped me win
496[31/12/2014, 4:33:23 AM] Quinnae: Retire on an island, have little umbrella drinks. (Mole sized)
497[31/12/2014, 4:33:44 AM] live:riotarms: I thought about going deep cover but I'm not sure how I'd do it
498[31/12/2014, 4:34:17 AM] Charloppe: my job is not over yet though. this mole has transphobia to fight
499[31/12/2014, 4:34:44 AM] Charloppe: i will be a mole for great justice
500[31/12/2014, 4:35:00 AM] Charloppe: I shall be flinged at any ggs who support harassment
501[31/12/2014, 4:37:42 AM] Rob: This is so fun
502[31/12/2014, 4:39:38 AM] Charloppe: lol sargon is so fucking stupid
503[31/12/2014, 4:40:04 AM] SF: Take off every zig
504[31/12/2014, 4:40:16 AM] SF: Happy trails Charlotte!
505[31/12/2014, 4:40:39 AM] SF: Assuming you quit for longer than I do each time.
506[31/12/2014, 4:40:50 AM] Charloppe: take care. I will be fine :)
507[31/12/2014, 4:40:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Kind of Racism over here.
508[31/12/2014, 4:41:37 AM] Charloppe: omg is sargon still going on about genocide!?
509[31/12/2014, 4:42:01 AM] Charloppe: way to turn trans girls death into accusations of genocide. just wow.
510[31/12/2014, 4:43:03 AM] Rob: yes
511[31/12/2014, 4:43:03 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/Jumbso/status/550027829098737664 sf did you write this article
512[31/12/2014, 4:44:15 AM] Quinnae: Where is Sargon saying that, Charlotte?
513[31/12/2014, 4:44:35 AM] Rob: He's replying to me.
514[31/12/2014, 4:44:36 AM] Charloppe: to rob
515[31/12/2014, 4:44:37 AM] Rob: He picked a fight.
516[31/12/2014, 4:44:42 AM] Rob: And I'm just wasting his time because it's fun
517[31/12/2014, 4:44:51 AM] Quinnae: Ugh, what an ass.
518[31/12/2014, 4:45:05 AM] Quinnae: Anyway, I have to head downtown to go book shopping with my partner.
519[31/12/2014, 4:45:12 AM] Quinnae: I leave matters in your capable hands. ;)
520[31/12/2014, 4:45:20 AM] Charloppe: :3 have fun katherine
521[31/12/2014, 4:45:21 AM] Tesseract: I need to get a word in here so I can get that sweet twitter block I crave
522[31/12/2014, 4:46:43 AM] Rob: Part of me is really tempted to be classist
523[31/12/2014, 4:46:44 AM] Rob: and be like
524[31/12/2014, 4:47:01 AM] Rob: 'well sargon i'm in the 1%, so yes, i think people take me more seriously than they take you. TOP KEK. REALZ NOT FEELS.'
525[31/12/2014, 4:47:12 AM] Rob: just because I know it'd make him sad in his feels.
526[31/12/2014, 4:47:54 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Fucking white people in my mentions.
527[31/12/2014, 4:48:11 AM] Rob: We're the worst.
528[31/12/2014, 4:48:16 AM] Charloppe: agreed
529[31/12/2014, 4:48:59 AM] Veerender Jubbal: "Veerender is not the sweetest person--he is the most racist!"
530[31/12/2014, 4:49:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, God.
531[31/12/2014, 4:49:14 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooo
532[31/12/2014, 4:49:53 AM] Peter Coffin: look, I'm white and get mistaken for middle eastern in the airport because I am semitic. white people are fucking bullshit.
533[31/12/2014, 4:50:03 AM] Peter Coffin: vj is no racist
534[31/12/2014, 4:50:25 AM] Peter Coffin: you, my friend, have to deal with the worst of white people
535[31/12/2014, 4:50:28 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm sorry
536[31/12/2014, 4:51:10 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550031260827930624
537[31/12/2014, 4:51:16 AM] Rob: (sun)
538[31/12/2014, 4:51:18 AM] Charloppe: funny how most assholes I come across are white
539[31/12/2014, 4:51:20 AM] Rob: Veerender you kick ass
540[31/12/2014, 4:51:26 AM] Charloppe: I wonder why
541[31/12/2014, 4:51:42 AM] Charloppe: lol that tweet
542[31/12/2014, 4:51:42 AM] Veerender Jubbal: blows kiss
543[31/12/2014, 4:52:00 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe accepts all of veerender kissed
544[31/12/2014, 5:01:06 AM] Charloppe: wow my one tweet is almost a 1000 rt
545[31/12/2014, 5:01:11 AM] SF: Are you trying to tell me Tesseract that animals do not all look like squares
546[31/12/2014, 5:01:13 AM] Ian Cheong: wow
547[31/12/2014, 5:01:23 AM] SF: And that I failed kindergarten 3 times for legitimate reasons
548[31/12/2014, 5:01:38 AM] Charloppe: heh i had to redo kindergarten too
549[31/12/2014, 5:02:16 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2quhgd/i_know_she_is_irrelevant_but_i_hope_gb_are_just/
550[31/12/2014, 5:02:18 AM] Ian Cheong: salty.
551[31/12/2014, 5:02:31 AM] Rob: But seriously, screaming baby for the past 5 hours
552[31/12/2014, 5:03:00 AM] Charloppe: seems like gators have stopped dogpiling me right now
553[31/12/2014, 5:03:14 AM] Charloppe: benifit of being a nobody on twitter
554[31/12/2014, 5:03:27 AM] Rob: Anyways, talk to you guys in a while
555[31/12/2014, 5:03:31 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/zoe-quinn-s-top-10-games-of-2014/1100-5156/
556[31/12/2014, 5:03:33 AM] Ian Cheong: check it out
557[31/12/2014, 5:03:36 AM] Ian Cheong: zoe's article!~
558[31/12/2014, 5:04:14 AM] Charloppe: i remember her asking for ideas for that
559[31/12/2014, 5:12:00 AM] Dan Olson: morn... afternoon... anything cray cray happen this morning?
560[31/12/2014, 5:12:07 AM] Charloppe: i got dogpiled
561[31/12/2014, 5:12:20 AM] Charloppe: tweet i made kinda went viral
562[31/12/2014, 5:12:29 AM] Dan Olson: lovely
563[31/12/2014, 5:12:30 AM] Charloppe: its been something
564[31/12/2014, 5:13:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan, like, everyday.
565[31/12/2014, 5:14:22 AM] Charloppe: know how you all feel now
566[31/12/2014, 5:15:10 AM] Charloppe: i dont even know what to think right now
567[31/12/2014, 5:19:09 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550038332806557697
568[31/12/2014, 5:19:17 AM] Charloppe: see how long this one takes to piss them off
569[31/12/2014, 5:26:00 AM] live:riotarms: There's this insane thing someone posted you all have to see
570[31/12/2014, 5:26:27 AM] Charloppe: oh?
571[31/12/2014, 5:26:29 AM] Tesseract: ?
572[31/12/2014, 5:26:43 AM] live:riotarms: https://twitter.com/SuperRetroid/status/549890691166638080
573[31/12/2014, 5:26:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Link?
574[31/12/2014, 5:27:25 AM] Charloppe: lol saw that earlier
575[31/12/2014, 5:27:39 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh that is my tweet
576[31/12/2014, 5:28:15 AM] Ian Cheong: Ethics in waifus
577[31/12/2014, 5:29:01 AM] Charloppe: I will take all of their 2d girls lolol
578[31/12/2014, 5:29:34 AM] live:riotarms: It's about ethics in Hatsune Miku VR sex
579[31/12/2014, 5:31:53 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
580[31/12/2014, 5:34:13 AM] Charloppe: apprently me raising awarness about transphobia is oppression olympics
581[31/12/2014, 5:34:54 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550038332806557697
582[31/12/2014, 5:34:55 AM] David Gallant: Standard deflection tactic, Charlotte. Disregard it for the stupidity it is.
583[31/12/2014, 5:35:25 AM] David Gallant: Also... who the fuck refers to themselves as an "lgbt minority"?
584[31/12/2014, 5:36:05 AM] SF: "As a gay,
585[31/12/2014, 5:36:08 AM] Charloppe: did I word that badly?
586[31/12/2014, 5:36:49 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Amantisme/status/550042456289337344
587[31/12/2014, 5:36:54 AM] SF: I didn't think so.
588[31/12/2014, 5:37:20 AM] SF: Ahaha oh of course by raising awareness we're the real monsters.
589[31/12/2014, 5:37:56 AM] Dan Olson: It takes one to know one!
590[31/12/2014, 5:38:02 AM] Dan Olson: I know you are, but what am I?!
591[31/12/2014, 5:38:56 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I am not a monster, so...
592[31/12/2014, 5:39:10 AM] Charloppe: someone said "waaaah my opression" Ignore that someone killed themselves because of it
593[31/12/2014, 5:39:22 AM] Dina : sup
594[31/12/2014, 5:39:41 AM] Tesseract: hi
595[31/12/2014, 5:39:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dina!
596[31/12/2014, 5:39:48 AM] Dan Olson: Like this whole "Dan must be a pedo if he's pointing out pedos" and "Veerender must be a racist if he's pointing out racists" is basically that schoolyard taunt.
597[31/12/2014, 5:39:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Pretty much.
598[31/12/2014, 5:40:05 AM] Dina : I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I, DAN
599[31/12/2014, 5:40:09 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan is on-point.
600[31/12/2014, 5:40:13 AM] Dina : or should I say... PEDAN
601[31/12/2014, 5:40:20 AM] Dina : (I'm sorry)
602[31/12/2014, 5:40:24 AM] Veerender Jubbal: You are both rad.
603[31/12/2014, 5:40:30 AM] SF: I believe this precedent was set in the landmark case of Rubber v. Glue.
604[31/12/2014, 5:40:36 AM] Dina : Veerender <3
605[31/12/2014, 5:40:39 AM] Tesseract: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2quhgd/i_know_she_is_irrelevant_but_i_hope_gb_are_just/ lollllllllllllllllllllll
606[31/12/2014, 5:40:40 AM] Dina : lol SF
607[31/12/2014, 5:40:47 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs
608[31/12/2014, 5:40:53 AM] Dina : (hug)
609[31/12/2014, 5:41:11 AM] Charloppe: someone just said to me chris kluwe is harassing a trans woman
610[31/12/2014, 5:41:15 AM] Charloppe: seriously doubt that
611[31/12/2014, 5:41:22 AM] SF: Maybe GG is just a campaign to destroy the meaning of the word trolling.
612[31/12/2014, 5:41:50 AM] Charloppe: oh its chobitcoin hes responding to
613[31/12/2014, 5:41:51 AM] Dina : I feel like a dick chuckling at Cerno's weird voice
614[31/12/2014, 5:42:22 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Quite a lot of people have said I am 'inspiring" over the past few days--I am scared.
615[31/12/2014, 5:42:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Apparently calling out chobotcpin means you're harassing a trans person
616[31/12/2014, 5:43:13 AM] Dina : she's trans?
617[31/12/2014, 5:43:35 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah apparently
618[31/12/2014, 5:43:49 AM] Tesseract: yes
619[31/12/2014, 5:44:01 AM] Dina : big whoop
620[31/12/2014, 5:44:05 AM] Dina : still a turd
621[31/12/2014, 5:44:07 AM] Tesseract: anyone know the date gg got kicked off 4chan
622[31/12/2014, 5:44:13 AM] Charloppe: i have seriosu doubts about her being trans
623[31/12/2014, 5:44:21 AM] Charloppe: no one can be trans and this malicious
624[31/12/2014, 5:44:31 AM] Charloppe: espically toward other trans ppl
625[31/12/2014, 5:44:46 AM] Ian Cheong: She says hella transphobic things
626[31/12/2014, 5:44:47 AM] Dina : hm exhibit A: Nero
627[31/12/2014, 5:45:02 AM] Dan Olson: Veerender, if I attended Katha would the gurdwara have spare head coverings for visitors, or should I bring my own?
628[31/12/2014, 5:45:04 AM] Dina : says wicked homophobic things
629[31/12/2014, 5:45:11 AM] Dina : is homosexual
630[31/12/2014, 5:45:15 AM] Dina : afaik
631[31/12/2014, 5:45:30 AM] SF: Some people genuinely do just hate others even more than they love themselves
632[31/12/2014, 5:45:41 AM] SF: Alternatively, they just also hate themselves.
633[31/12/2014, 5:46:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They always have their own.
634[31/12/2014, 5:46:18 AM] Veerender Jubbal: There is a a large box with them.
635[31/12/2014, 5:46:26 AM] Charloppe: I just don't get how a trans person can be that vicious. she should know better by default.
636[31/12/2014, 5:46:45 AM] SF: I sense an emotional separation between her words and their consequences.
637[31/12/2014, 5:46:51 AM] Dina : maybe she's shielded by some sort of privilege?
638[31/12/2014, 5:46:52 AM] SF: "Just trolling" at its most extreme.
639[31/12/2014, 5:46:54 AM] Dina : financial
640[31/12/2014, 5:46:58 AM] Dina : passing
641[31/12/2014, 5:47:00 AM] Dina : white?
642[31/12/2014, 5:47:13 AM] SF: Yeah I think she's comfortable in all those regards.
643[31/12/2014, 5:47:22 AM] SF: So clearly, anyone having a hard time must have brought it on themselves.
644[31/12/2014, 5:48:35 AM] live:riotarms: Some people just like being vile
645[31/12/2014, 5:48:42 AM] Dina : what a fucking bitch
646[31/12/2014, 5:48:44 AM] live:riotarms: Some people are just cruel
647[31/12/2014, 5:48:55 AM] Dina : ugh I hate that word, GG brings out the worst in me
648[31/12/2014, 5:49:49 AM] Charloppe: i was yelling all sorts of things to myself this morning
649[31/12/2014, 5:50:04 AM] Dina : the trolls are mostly sociopath study comes to mind
650[31/12/2014, 5:50:14 AM] David Gallant: I actually got called out by a bunch of GG-supporting trans folks a while back when I ranted about this very thing.
651[31/12/2014, 5:50:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Dan?! Dan?!
652[31/12/2014, 5:50:31 AM] SF: I dunno I think she's a bitch.
653[31/12/2014, 5:50:35 AM] David Gallant: They claimed to have found community within GG, even the strength to come out as trans for the first time.
654[31/12/2014, 5:50:50 AM] Dina : lol that was Devi Ever's bs
655[31/12/2014, 5:50:56 AM] Dina : I remember it David
656[31/12/2014, 5:51:00 AM] David Gallant: I mean... it's all kind of incredulous to believe, since the conversation was about tolerating GG's aggressive transphobia.
657[31/12/2014, 5:51:10 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Grace hates me, so...
658[31/12/2014, 5:51:22 AM] Veerender Jubbal: But a lot of people do! smiles
659[31/12/2014, 5:51:30 AM] SF: And yet it was then-Devi's calling out Milo's transphobia that got her mobbed by GG.
660[31/12/2014, 5:51:55 AM] Charloppe: i feel like grace i slowly coming around to things.
661[31/12/2014, 5:52:08 AM] Dina : Veerender we're besties in that regard too, Grace screen capped every innocuous tweet I made for a while and added commentary like "shut up you bitch"
662[31/12/2014, 5:52:15 AM] SF: Because they love separating opinions as being irrelevant to the cause, until they feel threatened by it.
663[31/12/2014, 5:52:17 AM] Dina : "what a fucking dumb cunt" etc
664[31/12/2014, 5:52:36 AM] live:riotarms: It's really fucking hard dealing with shit so I sympathise with Grace a bit
665[31/12/2014, 5:52:43 AM] SF: She does seem to be trying pretty hard to reform.
666[31/12/2014, 5:53:00 AM] Dan Olson: What what? My name being called? Sorry, I got distracted
667[31/12/2014, 5:53:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Besties for fucking life.
668[31/12/2014, 5:53:03 AM] live:riotarms: I had untreated anxiety and depression for close to a decade and I used to be pretty vile
669[31/12/2014, 5:53:06 AM] David Gallant: She reached out to me privately and very sincerely apologized for what she'd done to me in the past.
670[31/12/2014, 5:53:07 AM] SF: I still wouldn't trust her, but there's a decent human underneath, smothered with channisms.
671[31/12/2014, 5:53:10 AM] Dan Olson: <3
672[31/12/2014, 5:53:19 AM] live:riotarms: Still feel awful, actually
673[31/12/2014, 5:53:19 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/1lb_cake/status/550046728586416128
674[31/12/2014, 5:53:22 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
675[31/12/2014, 5:53:23 AM] SF: As an ex-asshole myself I can sympathize.
676[31/12/2014, 5:53:24 AM] Dina : More power to her, I hope she finds some peace because that stalker shit is appaling
677[31/12/2014, 5:53:25 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
678[31/12/2014, 5:53:29 AM] Charloppe: headdesk
679[31/12/2014, 5:53:30 AM] David Gallant: I think her attempt to reform now is genuine. However, she still has a lot to make up for.
680[31/12/2014, 5:53:35 AM] SF: Not that you're obligated to give her the time of day of course.
681[31/12/2014, 5:53:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: To Dina: https://33.media.tumblr.com/8c6b6247d4cbfe396a41a32da970abd2/tumblr_nbciagchsH1r16thao1_250.gif
682[31/12/2014, 5:54:04 AM] live:riotarms: They want her to kill herself, it's insane
683[31/12/2014, 5:54:33 AM] Charloppe: chobit tried to get chole to kill herself
684[31/12/2014, 5:54:37 AM] live:riotarms: Chobitcoin is a threat to others, I can't stand that
685[31/12/2014, 5:54:42 AM] Ian Cheong: Don't argue with randos
686[31/12/2014, 5:54:44 AM] Charloppe: wants to bully spacedad to kill herself
687[31/12/2014, 5:54:56 AM] SF: Chobit is legit more likely to cause someone to die than all the others combined.
688[31/12/2014, 5:54:58 AM] Charloppe: why in the hell would i support her because shes trans
689[31/12/2014, 5:55:02 AM] SF: Including Rogue.
690[31/12/2014, 5:55:07 AM] Charloppe: agreed
691[31/12/2014, 5:55:07 AM] live:riotarms: The fact she hasn't been run out of GG speaks volumes
692[31/12/2014, 5:55:11 AM] Dan Olson: a'ight, gonna go pick up some hardware and get some editing done since I just realized my deadline on all these cocktail mixing videos is sneaking up on me.
693[31/12/2014, 5:55:30 AM] Veerender Jubbal: hugs Dan
694[31/12/2014, 5:55:37 AM] live:riotarms: Does anyone know what Izels deal is
695[31/12/2014, 5:55:50 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm gonna catch some sleep
696[31/12/2014, 5:55:58 AM] live:riotarms: That guy is almost entertaining to watch he's so disconnected
697[31/12/2014, 5:55:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Take care, Ian!
698[31/12/2014, 5:55:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Good night all
699[31/12/2014, 5:56:01 AM] Dina : Veerender (hug)
700[31/12/2014, 5:56:02 AM] live:riotarms: Later ian
701[31/12/2014, 5:56:06 AM] Dina : night Ian!!
702[31/12/2014, 5:56:12 AM] Dina : thanks for the awesome email today!
703[31/12/2014, 5:56:19 AM] Ian Cheong: No problem
704[31/12/2014, 5:56:37 AM] SF: G'night!
705[31/12/2014, 5:56:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Night!
706[31/12/2014, 5:57:07 AM] SF: I find a lot of the vocal gators vile but Chobit is one I genuinely think needs to be in prison or a psych ward.
707[31/12/2014, 5:57:27 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Polygon's list was super white, David.
708[31/12/2014, 5:57:52 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/1lb_cake/status/550047744102895617
709[31/12/2014, 5:58:00 AM] Charloppe: these ppl exist
710[31/12/2014, 5:58:28 AM] Tesseract: poundingcake is so fucking insufferable
711[31/12/2014, 5:59:10 AM] SF: Chloe ended up in the ER on a subsequent attempt recently IIRC.
712[31/12/2014, 5:59:33 AM] SF: Don't bother engaging. You're not going to teach them empathy.
713[31/12/2014, 6:00:10 AM] Charloppe: sigh these ppl treat suicide like a joke
714[31/12/2014, 6:00:56 AM] live:riotarms: No cure for sociopathy, sadly
715[31/12/2014, 6:01:33 AM] Dina : ...I just hit Chris' gator tears intermission and I snort laughd.
716[31/12/2014, 6:01:42 AM] Dina : so glad no one was around to see that
717[31/12/2014, 6:01:44 AM] Charloppe: i really thought the gaming community was more open then this
718[31/12/2014, 6:01:49 AM] Charloppe: illusion shattared
719[31/12/2014, 6:01:49 AM] Dina : it's not
720[31/12/2014, 6:02:04 AM] Dina : it's basically a wet sticky shart on the face of the artform
721[31/12/2014, 6:02:12 AM] Dina : and reflective of 20 years of gatekeeping
722[31/12/2014, 6:02:28 AM] Tesseract: the gaming community is pure shit
723[31/12/2014, 6:03:20 AM] Charloppe: i just thought that since alot of gamers got bullied they would be more aware of the impact that bullying others can cause.
724[31/12/2014, 6:03:37 AM] SF: You'd think that about nerds in general but look at Silicon Valley.
725[31/12/2014, 6:03:37 AM] Tesseract: I doubt most of them were ever bullied
726[31/12/2014, 6:03:52 AM] drinternetphd: fucking barf
727[31/12/2014, 6:03:57 AM] SF: Pecking orders aren't about whether you're at the top, they're about whether you're at the bottom.
728[31/12/2014, 6:04:03 AM] SF: Everyone just wants someone beneath them.
729[31/12/2014, 6:04:15 AM] drinternetphd: the boston magazine reporter who asked me to talk about my relationship with eron pre-gg is still going ahead with the story
730[31/12/2014, 6:04:17 AM] Dina : yep^
731[31/12/2014, 6:04:21 AM] drinternetphd: despite being told not to multiple times
732[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] Dina : wtf?
733[31/12/2014, 6:04:29 AM] drinternetphd: and has already interviewed eron
734[31/12/2014, 6:04:36 AM] Dina : WTF
735[31/12/2014, 6:04:38 AM] live:riotarms: Ugh
736[31/12/2014, 6:05:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am trying to write a response that isn't just "please fuck off forever"
737[31/12/2014, 6:05:24 AM] drinternetphd: can y'all give me some advice? I can copypaste the correspondence
738[31/12/2014, 6:05:26 AM] SF: As always you're put in a position where you're forced to be a saint when you shouldn't have to be..
739[31/12/2014, 6:05:30 AM] live:riotarms: The Internet has given people some bizzare and harmful ideas about privacy :/
740[31/12/2014, 6:05:40 AM] drinternetphd: spam incoming
741[31/12/2014, 6:05:41 AM] Charloppe: chloe ending up in the er is apparently faking suicide
742[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] drinternetphd: his first email: Dear Ms. Quinn,
743
744I am writing a story on your former relationship with Eron Gjoni for a coming issue of Boston Magazine.
745
746This will not focus on the savage attacks against you and others after Gjoni published his blog, but rather will document the relationship up to the point when Gjoni decided to publish. Are you willing and available for an interview sometime in the next week to share your account of the relationship?
747
748Thank you very much. Please let me know if you have any questions.
749
750Best,
751
752Zak
753[31/12/2014, 6:05:48 AM] Charloppe: I am filled with so much hate right now
754[31/12/2014, 6:06:01 AM] SF: That's TB's kind of reasoning.
755[31/12/2014, 6:06:05 AM] drinternetphd: my response:
756
757Hi Zak, thanks for contacting me.
758
759As you may have discovered in your research, I am currently not willing nor able to discuss any details of my personal life, for fear that any such published information invariably puts me in danger of further attacks by Gamergate, regardless of their veracity or slant. This is, sadly, the reality of the situation, and I am looking out for my personal safety when I say this. Beyond that, I honestly feel that I am entitled to some small semblance of privacy left, and do not think that details of my personal relationships are anyone's business but those involved with them.
760
761You may also know that my ex, Eron Gjoni, is currently under a restraining order from the Boston Municipal Court, the provisions of which dictate that he is unable to discuss my personal life, past or present, in any published form. This has been issued due to the clear danger any such airing of personal information about me places me in.
762
763Please let me know if you have any further questions.
764[31/12/2014, 6:06:26 AM] drinternetphd: His response: 
765
766Thanks very much, Zoe. That would have been my response as well.
767
768I'll let you know if I have any follow-up questions.
769
770Best,
771
772Zak
773[31/12/2014, 6:06:44 AM] drinternetphd: My response: 
774
775I am really, really hoping you're not going to run a one-sided story about this with only my abusive ex's account.
776[31/12/2014, 6:06:59 AM] drinternetphd: His response: 
777
778Dear Zoe,
779
780I would never write nor publish that. Are you available for a very brief phone conversation to discuss the crux of this story, off the record?
781
782Best,
783
784Zak
785[31/12/2014, 6:07:13 AM] SF: Oh, so he lied.
786[31/12/2014, 6:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: My response:
787
788That's good to hear. 
789
790Is there any way we could stick to email instead?
791[31/12/2014, 6:07:22 AM] live:riotarms: Barf
792[31/12/2014, 6:07:34 AM] drinternetphd: (weeks go by)
793[31/12/2014, 6:07:40 AM] David Gallant: Starting to sound sketchy.
794[31/12/2014, 6:07:50 AM] drinternetphd: his response:
795Dear Zoe,
796 
797I’m sorry for the delay.
798 
799The last thing I want this story to be is something that provides attackers with more poison to spew. That was my first question when the editors approached me with the story, and they assured me that all we want to do with Gamergate is include a brief section summarizing the vicious, vile assaults on you and many others.
800 
801This story will focus on Eron Gjoni’s blog post, and how and why it ignited such savagery. It will feature reflections from as many possible sides and as many possible sources as are willing to speak. I would be very happy to talk to anyone you recommend.  And of course the details of your private life you don’t want to reveal are not for the public record. Anything you don’t want to talk about, we wouldn’t talk about. Anything you do, we would.
802 
803This story will not appear for another three months. As Gamergate continues, the story of its origin has blurred, and never really been visited in depth. I aim to do that in this story, and I can’t get at the truth of it without talking to its first victim.
804 
805Thank you very much again. Please let me know if you have any questions.
806 
807Best,
808 
809Zak
810[31/12/2014, 6:07:53 AM] SF: How is the actual nature of your relationship even relevant to what's happened at this point.
811[31/12/2014, 6:08:13 AM] drinternetphd: (I didn't respond so he sent me this this morning)
812[31/12/2014, 6:08:14 AM] drinternetphd: Dear Zoe,
813
814Hope you've been well.
815
816I am finished with the reporting of Mr. Gjoni's side of the story. If you, or anyone you would recommend I speak to, are available to talk sometime soon, please let me know. Again, it would be a tremendous help in crafting the full scope of this story if you are available to talk, about anything you'd like, either over the phone, over dinner, coffee, Skype, anything. I know you've suffered immeasurable pain and abuse, and as I've said, I hope that this story will in some small way help alleviate some of that. If you have any time at all for a conversation about your life, your career, your thoughts on the story, I would greatly appreciate it. To give you a sense of the kind of writing I'm interested in, here are a few recent samples: http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Memorial-Days.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/fea_schools_madeloni-2.pdf, http://zakjason.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Turning-Point_ZEJ.pdf.
817
818Thank you very much.
819
820Best,
821
822Zak
823[31/12/2014, 6:08:44 AM] drinternetphd: currently drafting mine, this is all I have so far:
824
825Zak,
826
827I'm still pretty disappointed to hear that you're going ahead with the story, especially considering my ex has publicly stated that he won't work with any journalist that doesn't spend multiple paragraphs defaming me (source here: ) and has willfully misrepresented people who have interviewed him in the past (source here: ). It's especially disheartening to read this while I am still not allowed to be home in boston because of the frequency and specificity of the threats made against me. I am not sure how continuing to give my ex a platform to try and ruin my life is somehow meant to alleviate this nightmare, or how asking to revisit the relationship that was incredibly traumatic and abusive towards me is either. I sincerely do not understand your motivations here, or why you are continuing to ask this of me.
828[31/12/2014, 6:08:45 AM] SF: So he said "no that's reasonable I agree with you" then came back with an ultimatum.
829[31/12/2014, 6:09:10 AM] live:riotarms: By interviewing Gjoni could he be found to be in contempt of court or open to legal action?
830[31/12/2014, 6:09:31 AM] drinternetphd: fighting this in court so far has been like pushing rope into a small hole
831[31/12/2014, 6:09:46 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550050865592406017 cant believe I have to make this tweet
832[31/12/2014, 6:09:47 AM] live:riotarms: Gah,  I'm sorry
833[31/12/2014, 6:09:52 AM] Charloppe: ppl are so fucking dense
834[31/12/2014, 6:10:03 AM] drinternetphd: so I think I am gonna refer him to other women he's harassed
835[31/12/2014, 6:10:09 AM] SF: I wonder if citing Gjoni's tumblr post where he talks specifically about journalism being a deliberate smokescreen tactic would be useful.
836[31/12/2014, 6:10:54 AM] SF: https://archive.today/OVXNf#selection-49.11-49.113 (that one)
837[31/12/2014, 6:11:12 AM] live:riotarms: You could maybe cite the ethical code he's violating (the same one Milo violated)
838[31/12/2014, 6:12:14 AM] Dina : um
839[31/12/2014, 6:12:26 AM] Dina : I don't think anything would deter this person
840[31/12/2014, 6:12:34 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah
841[31/12/2014, 6:12:35 AM] Dina : they are clearly reaching for maximum drama
842[31/12/2014, 6:12:38 AM] Dina : aka pageviews
843[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] drinternetphd: it seems that way
844[31/12/2014, 6:12:44 AM] Dina : not a shred of decency
845[31/12/2014, 6:12:54 AM] drinternetphd: so now it's about damage control
846[31/12/2014, 6:13:04 AM] Dina : Zoe definitely link him to previous exes he abused
847[31/12/2014, 6:13:08 AM] Dina : if they're willing to talk
848[31/12/2014, 6:13:13 AM] drinternetphd: I'm his second girlfriend
849[31/12/2014, 6:13:19 AM] Dina : that's honestly the best option
850[31/12/2014, 6:13:27 AM] drinternetphd: I am referring him to other women he's since abused tho
851[31/12/2014, 6:13:35 AM] Dina : well the first and I'm sorry you were in a relationship with an abusive shit
852[31/12/2014, 6:13:48 AM] Dina : that too
853[31/12/2014, 6:14:01 AM] drinternetphd: bleh
854[31/12/2014, 6:14:11 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna go for a walk and clear my head I think
855[31/12/2014, 6:14:15 AM] live:riotarms: Who did that Hateful Boyfriend post
856[31/12/2014, 6:14:21 AM] SF: Yeah, good idea.
857[31/12/2014, 6:14:32 AM] live:riotarms: They'd be a good pick to refute his shit
858[31/12/2014, 6:15:28 AM] drinternetphd: yeah I already sent an email asking if she's down
859[31/12/2014, 6:15:34 AM] Dina : hugs, Zoe :(
860[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] live:riotarms: That's awful though, I'm really sorry these arseholes are doing this to you
861[31/12/2014, 6:15:37 AM] drinternetphd: <3
862[31/12/2014, 6:15:42 AM] drinternetphd: if anyone thinks of anything please lemme know
863[31/12/2014, 6:15:43 AM] Dina : (hug)
864[31/12/2014, 6:15:49 AM] Dina : will do
865[31/12/2014, 6:16:01 AM] David Gallant: Hugs if you want them, Zoe. This guy is ridiculous.
866[31/12/2014, 6:17:53 AM] live:riotarms: Only thing I can think of is if you agree to talk about GG beyond Eron if he's willing to let you make suggestions on his final draft
867[31/12/2014, 6:18:50 AM] live:riotarms: That's not really that helpful, sorry
868[31/12/2014, 6:31:33 AM] live:riotarms: Fuckin abusers, argh
869[31/12/2014, 6:33:34 AM] David Gallant: I didn't know Eron had abused other women.
870[31/12/2014, 6:33:37 AM] David Gallant: Goddamnit.
871[31/12/2014, 6:35:47 AM] live:riotarms: What upsets me a bit is this is the hill he wants to die on, in his twenties
872[31/12/2014, 6:36:31 AM] live:riotarms: Regardless of the cost and ugh this isn't the best place for a third party to weigh in with a hot take
873[31/12/2014, 6:38:23 AM] drinternetphd: it continually drives me mad that eron's shit has been totally dropped from the narrative around what GG is
874[31/12/2014, 6:41:10 AM] Charloppe: :( gg has become such a clusterfuck of stupid shit.
875[31/12/2014, 6:41:23 AM] live:riotarms: And you fuckin screencapped them saying LET'S START TALKING ABOUT ETHICS TO CONFUSE THE SJWS
876[31/12/2014, 6:41:43 AM] Remy: Oh fuck me I'm in the wrong chat room again
877[31/12/2014, 6:41:47 AM] Remy: I'm so sorry I just woke up
878[31/12/2014, 6:42:06 AM] Charloppe: no probs
879[31/12/2014, 6:42:32 AM] live:riotarms: I was trying to break down some fucker linking to the log at WHTM and a sealion jumped in going "that log is salted!"
880[31/12/2014, 6:42:42 AM] Remy: Good morning/afternoon everybody
881[31/12/2014, 6:42:43 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/GamerGatoruy/status/550059199020171264
882[31/12/2014, 6:42:45 AM] Charloppe: wow
883[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] live:riotarms: What does that even mean?
884[31/12/2014, 6:42:49 AM] Charloppe: such deflection
885[31/12/2014, 6:42:52 AM] David Gallant: "log is salted"? What?
886[31/12/2014, 6:42:53 AM] drinternetphd: ha that log isn't even mine
887[31/12/2014, 6:43:09 AM] drinternetphd: the irc released it and edited it to make themselves look better
888[31/12/2014, 6:43:21 AM] live:riotarms: yes
889[31/12/2014, 6:43:36 AM] David Gallant: So I guess the log IS salted, just not by Zoe.
890[31/12/2014, 6:43:44 AM] live:riotarms: These fuckers are from Bizzaro World
891[31/12/2014, 6:44:02 AM] live:riotarms: If they edited it to me themselves look BETTER...
892[31/12/2014, 6:44:09 AM] live:riotarms: I shudder to think
893[31/12/2014, 6:46:08 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/GhaziSays Apparently I am now considered "Ghazi" even though I've been there like twice, and they RT'd me talking about homophobia toward Ninja Theory that had nothing to do with GG.
894[31/12/2014, 6:46:50 AM] Remy: Okay
895[31/12/2014, 6:47:04 AM] Remy: And I read that weird series of e-mails, Zoe, sounds like a smarty reporter if they even are one
896[31/12/2014, 6:47:08 AM] Remy: smarmy*
897[31/12/2014, 6:47:20 AM] drinternetphd: I do not like this person
898[31/12/2014, 6:47:54 AM] Remy: Okay so when you say "salted" is this in the sense of "They're salting the mines"
899[31/12/2014, 6:47:57 AM] Remy: As in placing false leads?
900[31/12/2014, 6:49:32 AM] live:riotarms: I assumed it was just usual gater lying
901[31/12/2014, 6:49:57 AM] Remy: nah that's totally a reference to that colloquialism.
902[31/12/2014, 6:49:57 AM] live:riotarms: It's all they got, reality is a SJW
903[31/12/2014, 6:50:23 AM] Remy: life's a beach
904[31/12/2014, 6:50:26 AM] Remy: reality is a SJW
905[31/12/2014, 6:50:40 AM] live:riotarms: Editing that log in the time frame it was published in beyond find and delete would be impossible
906[31/12/2014, 6:51:47 AM] David Gallant: And there's still a lot of shit in there that makes them look horrible.
907[31/12/2014, 6:52:02 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549941396095119360
908[31/12/2014, 6:52:09 AM] David Gallant: Though it probably was edited with the chan ethos, "if it's not illegal, it's okay"
909[31/12/2014, 6:52:11 AM] Charloppe: Really happy ppl are seeing this
910[31/12/2014, 6:52:27 AM] live:riotarms: Nothing that doesn't make them look horrible
911[31/12/2014, 6:52:54 AM] live:riotarms: Zoe, I was totally channelling you during a recent dispute I settled on and can't discuss
912[31/12/2014, 6:53:46 AM] live:riotarms: But it was super helpful to have your example because I tend to melt into a pool of anxiety juice when shit goes down
913[31/12/2014, 6:54:10 AM] Tesseract: 1k rts holy shit
914[31/12/2014, 6:55:56 AM] Remy: Twitter blowing up your phone Tess?
915[31/12/2014, 6:56:21 AM] Charloppe: thats what I said
916[31/12/2014, 6:56:27 AM] Tesseract: charlotte, not me
917[31/12/2014, 6:56:52 AM] Tesseract: the most I've ever gotten was 500 on that RIP roguestar post and only after I pinned it for ages
918[31/12/2014, 6:57:10 AM] Charloppe: never thought my voice that I typed in anger would recieve this attention.
919[31/12/2014, 6:57:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: hola
920[31/12/2014, 6:57:43 AM] Charloppe: Its something parents need to see
921[31/12/2014, 6:57:49 AM] Charloppe: hi chris
922[31/12/2014, 6:57:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: wardell is trying to come after me on twitter! fun time!
923[31/12/2014, 6:58:12 AM] Remy: Oh I didn't see the link
924[31/12/2014, 6:58:15 AM] Charloppe: I got dogpiled for the first time today
925[31/12/2014, 6:58:19 AM] Charloppe: it was weird
926[31/12/2014, 6:58:27 AM] live:riotarms: Fucking Wardell man
927[31/12/2014, 6:58:39 AM] Remy: Oh god
928[31/12/2014, 6:58:39 AM] SF: Wardell is unfortunately better at not putting his foot quite so directly in his mouth so he's more just aggravating to argue with.
929[31/12/2014, 6:58:41 AM] Remy: Wardell
930[31/12/2014, 6:59:06 AM] Remy: For as much as he is compliant with GG's nonsense he is very good at keeping the shit off his shoes
931[31/12/2014, 6:59:50 AM] Remy: Oh wow Leelah is trending on Twitter?
932[31/12/2014, 6:59:58 AM] Remy: I mentioned this in the other chat
933[31/12/2014, 7:00:11 AM] Remy: But I got that station that mis-gendered her in the news report to change their story http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/warren-county/leelah-alcorn-suicide-note-sparks-transgender-discussion
934[31/12/2014, 7:00:25 AM] Remy: They hadn't seen her note and her parents stonewalled them on info
935[31/12/2014, 7:00:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: i've been trying to retweet and raise awareness on Leelah
936[31/12/2014, 7:00:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: that story sucks :/
937[31/12/2014, 7:00:52 AM] Charloppe: I very timid reading articles on trans ppl. all they do is anger me usually
938[31/12/2014, 7:01:10 AM] David Gallant: Funny, we have record of Wardell committing very blatant libel against Zoe earlier today.
939[31/12/2014, 7:01:14 AM] Charloppe: misgendering plus showing photos pre transition
940[31/12/2014, 7:01:34 AM] Remy: I think there needs to be a word spoken in journalism schools on how to properly show respect for a person after death. Seems like it would be a topic they cover but apparently they are clueless when it comes to trans people
941[31/12/2014, 7:02:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think part of the problem is that they just haven't cared to find out if there's a proper way to do it or not
942[31/12/2014, 7:02:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: which hopefully will change
943[31/12/2014, 7:02:25 AM] Remy: David: When I say Wardell is good at keeping the shit off of his shoes, bear in mind I am not a lawyer and have never seen a successful or unsuccessful libel case. In my head it's an imaginary thing people threaten to use but never do
944[31/12/2014, 7:02:26 AM] Charloppe: all article like to start with so and so born a man did x. Upsets me everytime
945[31/12/2014, 7:03:16 AM] Remy: In my head, in the future, it would be considered much the same way braces and eyeglasses are.
946[31/12/2014, 7:03:31 AM] Remy: You wouldn't mention "This girl committed suicide and was wearing corrective eyeglasses"
947[31/12/2014, 7:03:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: right
948[31/12/2014, 7:03:47 AM] Remy: Just like you wouldn't mention "This girl died and at some point in time had a re-alignment surgical procedure"
949[31/12/2014, 7:03:52 AM] Remy: Like... not relevant
950[31/12/2014, 7:03:53 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah that sorry is really sad
951[31/12/2014, 7:04:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: "this football player died and had an ACL surgery at one point"
952[31/12/2014, 7:04:05 AM] Peter Coffin: Story
953[31/12/2014, 7:04:10 AM] Remy: Also the cases where surgery hasn't been adoption and scuh
954[31/12/2014, 7:04:11 AM] David Gallant: Fair point, Stephen. I've been threatened with libel before (baseless) so I'm only going by the Canadian court definition that I know.
955[31/12/2014, 7:04:39 AM] Peter Coffin: My wife sent it to me yesterday, the parents really make me sad
956[31/12/2014, 7:05:00 AM] Charloppe: they are misrepresenting her even in death
957[31/12/2014, 7:05:09 AM] Charloppe: said she got hit by a truck
958[31/12/2014, 7:05:18 AM] Peter Coffin: Yeah
959[31/12/2014, 7:05:42 AM] Peter Coffin: Tbh I consider them monsters, particularly the mom
960[31/12/2014, 7:06:10 AM] Charloppe: they deserve any scorn recieved
961[31/12/2014, 7:06:24 AM] Charloppe: this was a avoidable death
962[31/12/2014, 7:06:31 AM] Charloppe: all they had to do was listen
963[31/12/2014, 7:06:32 AM] Remy: Parents suck
964[31/12/2014, 7:06:43 AM] Peter Coffin: So concerned with their reputation in their church they made their daughter's life so bad
965[31/12/2014, 7:06:51 AM] Remy: I've had to receive more training to drive a vehicle than anyone has had to have for raising a human being
966[31/12/2014, 7:07:03 AM] Charloppe: My heart goes out to leelah but not to her parents
967[31/12/2014, 7:07:32 AM] Peter Coffin: Well the popular approach is you can't know until you are in the situation
968[31/12/2014, 7:07:50 AM] Peter Coffin: This is just not true, though. You can know.
969[31/12/2014, 7:08:01 AM] Peter Coffin: You can read psychology books and research
970[31/12/2014, 7:08:14 AM] Peter Coffin: You can look to your own experience as a child
971[31/12/2014, 7:08:22 AM] Charloppe: I'm really lucky I have the parents I do. If they rejected me I would not be here
972[31/12/2014, 7:08:29 AM] Peter Coffin: There are so many ways to know how to parent
973[31/12/2014, 7:08:39 AM] Charloppe: I was at a breaking point telling them
974[31/12/2014, 7:08:48 AM] Charloppe: agreeed
975[31/12/2014, 7:09:05 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm glad they accepted you
976[31/12/2014, 7:09:31 AM] Charloppe: my mum was accepting right away. dad took awhile but is fully supportive.
977[31/12/2014, 7:11:04 AM] Peter Coffin: It's probably confusing for older generations. They don't even get smart phones
978[31/12/2014, 7:11:04 AM] David Gallant: I'm still afraid to tell my parents I'm bi.
979[31/12/2014, 7:11:37 AM] Charloppe: :( I know that fear all to well
980[31/12/2014, 7:11:40 AM] Charloppe: hugs
981[31/12/2014, 7:11:50 AM] Peter Coffin: Sorry David
982[31/12/2014, 7:12:46 AM] live:riotarms: I sometimes wonder if I'd be bi if not for how my mum acted at times
983[31/12/2014, 7:12:58 AM] live:riotarms: I was quite confused last year
984[31/12/2014, 7:13:08 AM] Peter Coffin: I mean. I'm mayo, I have no "thing I'm afraid to say" but you have my sympathy as a human being. All of you
985[31/12/2014, 7:14:05 AM] Peter Coffin: Regardless of what its about. I just wish people understood it's okay to do or be anything that's not hurting others
986[31/12/2014, 7:14:27 AM] Peter Coffin: And hope much it hurts people to ignore their feelings
987[31/12/2014, 7:15:44 AM] live:riotarms: Homophobia and transphobia are systems as much as anything
988[31/12/2014, 7:16:05 AM] live:riotarms: I figure the parent is afraid for the child as much as of them in most cases
989[31/12/2014, 7:16:26 AM] live:riotarms: Haven't looked into this one for my own mental well being honestly
990[31/12/2014, 7:16:50 AM] Charloppe: You all have my respect. Hearing simple things like "I support you no matter how you identify" is powerful to anyone struggling.
991[31/12/2014, 7:17:50 AM] Remy: <3
992[31/12/2014, 7:18:21 AM] Remy: How very much like humanity
993[31/12/2014, 7:18:32 AM] Remy: Weathering the most wicked storms, we carve out our own little safe space
994[31/12/2014, 7:18:50 AM] Remy: And we huddle and keep each other warm and tell each other stories as we plan for the days to come
995[31/12/2014, 7:19:16 AM] live:riotarms: Life's so fucking hard already
996[31/12/2014, 7:19:23 AM] live:riotarms: Why make it harder?
997[31/12/2014, 7:20:01 AM] Charloppe: very much agree
998[31/12/2014, 7:23:15 AM] Peter Coffin: good question
999[31/12/2014, 7:26:58 AM] Remy: just plat Lego
1000[31/12/2014, 7:27:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: so KiA is starting to eat itself
1001http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qtw66/adrian_chmielarz_wake_up_on_angryjoeshow_and_the/
1002[31/12/2014, 7:27:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: reading the hand wringings and justifications is all the popcorn
1003[31/12/2014, 7:28:13 AM] Rob: WHEEE
1004[31/12/2014, 7:28:23 AM] Tesseract: hehehe
1005[31/12/2014, 7:28:27 AM] Rob: Rob pours himself a mountain of booze.
1006[31/12/2014, 7:28:30 AM] Rob: TIME FOR DRUNKEN SECRET OF MANA
1007[31/12/2014, 7:28:46 AM] Remy: What are they crying about?
1008[31/12/2014, 7:29:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: tone policing
1009[31/12/2014, 7:29:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: within their own ranks
1010[31/12/2014, 7:29:26 AM] David Gallant: Wonderful. :/
1011[31/12/2014, 7:29:33 AM] Remy: Oh wow
1012[31/12/2014, 7:29:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: some are like "Hey, maybe we should try to engage civilly and not throw poop"
1013[31/12/2014, 7:29:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: and the rest are "AAAAAAHHHH AHHHHH AHHHHHHH <feces>"
1014[31/12/2014, 7:29:52 AM] Tesseract: hah
1015[31/12/2014, 7:29:55 AM] Remy: I'm just impressed at how many of them are saying "We gotta un-fuck ourselves"
1016[31/12/2014, 7:30:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: now comes the next step
1017[31/12/2014, 7:30:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: where they realize it's too late
1018[31/12/2014, 7:30:16 AM] Charloppe: whats this? are they becoming self aware?
1019[31/12/2014, 7:30:19 AM] Remy: And the smart ones abandon ship
1020[31/12/2014, 7:30:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: ETHICS!
1021[31/12/2014, 7:30:55 AM] Remy: All hail the SS GG, as it sinks into the pier. Some say there are still those desperate enough for CP to dive down and search the depths for its sunken ruins
1022[31/12/2014, 7:30:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: "If you wish to obliterate the trolls, anonymously donate millions of follower bots to their Twitter accounts and destroy their engagement ranking. Then the trolls, the LWs, and the eCelebs will be finished for good as their tweets will not rank to the top any longer. (Having 2 million followers with a 200 retweet average is the same as having no account at all)
1023
1024http://www.seochat.com/c/a/social/twitter-engagement-measure/
1025
1026Why simply ignore them when you can anonymously cut them off from their attention addiction and be done with them for good? Why even dance around the topic? Why endure any stress of letting them control the narrative at all?
1027
1028Just simply donate the bots to them and tell no one you did it. Solved problem.
1029"
1030[31/12/2014, 7:31:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: curious to see if anyone upboats that
1031[31/12/2014, 7:31:35 AM] Remy: Oh right
1032[31/12/2014, 7:31:40 AM] Remy: They still think we live off of Twitter
1033[31/12/2014, 7:31:48 AM] Remy: I wish they could kick me off of Twitter. I'd get more work done
1034[31/12/2014, 7:32:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol. it's like 50 degress F outside, and my 4 year old is asking if she can go in the pool
1035[31/12/2014, 7:32:39 AM] Rob: is it heated?
1036[31/12/2014, 7:32:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: not right now
1037[31/12/2014, 7:32:50 AM] Rob: oh, boo
1038[31/12/2014, 7:32:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: too expensive in the winter :/
1039[31/12/2014, 7:33:01 AM] Rob: Yeah, it really is
1040[31/12/2014, 7:33:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: even though a socal winter hardly qualifies for the word
1041[31/12/2014, 7:33:04 AM] Remy: Chuggo Buggo is crying up a storm tho
1042[31/12/2014, 7:33:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah he is
1043[31/12/2014, 7:33:10 AM] Remy: "They called us Nazis"
1044[31/12/2014, 7:33:13 AM] Remy: WAAA
1045[31/12/2014, 7:33:14 AM] Rob: I was just in SoCal!
1046[31/12/2014, 7:33:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think ol Chuggo's gonna be back
1047[31/12/2014, 7:33:35 AM] Rob: My parents live in northern santa Barbara county
1048[31/12/2014, 7:33:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh nice
1049[31/12/2014, 7:33:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: my wife's parents live in Ventura
1050[31/12/2014, 7:33:56 AM] Rob: Oh, cool! My parents are in Los Alamos, near santa maria and buelton
1051[31/12/2014, 7:34:17 AM] Remy: Okay but anyone who read Chuggo Buggo's crying, can anyone explain to me why he decided to mention the GamerGate Christmas album?
1052[31/12/2014, 7:34:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i have to get going
1053[31/12/2014, 7:34:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: no idea :p
1054[31/12/2014, 7:34:29 AM] Rob: Later, Chris!
1055[31/12/2014, 7:34:35 AM] Remy: Because I feel like he's saying in a sense of "Why are they bullying us we're such good people, we even made a Christmas album"
1056[31/12/2014, 7:34:43 AM] Remy: later Chris (dance)
1057[31/12/2014, 7:35:18 AM] nicholas.boterf: And I know I’m late (had to help the family bring in groceries), but I’m sorry you got dogpiled Charlotte. That’s never pleasant.
1058[31/12/2014, 7:35:21 AM] live:riotarms: If I lived in SoCal I'd just LARP Repo Man all day
1059[31/12/2014, 7:35:35 AM] Remy: XD
1060[31/12/2014, 7:35:51 AM] Charloppe: someone vomited up this brand of stupid https://twitter.com/BoondockSaint50/status/550072464274096128
1061[31/12/2014, 7:35:52 AM] Rob: I'd LARP demolition man b/c taco bell wins the franchise wars
1062[31/12/2014, 7:36:31 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe runs out of exploding building with tacos!
1063[31/12/2014, 7:36:38 AM] Rob: :D
1064[31/12/2014, 7:36:50 AM] Charloppe: PHOOOOOOENIX BLLLLLARGH
1065[31/12/2014, 7:36:58 AM] Rob: hahaha
1066[31/12/2014, 7:37:01 AM] Rob: I love that movie so much
1067[31/12/2014, 7:37:27 AM] live:riotarms: It would make sense for Repo and Demolition Man to be the same canon
1068[31/12/2014, 7:37:30 AM] Charloppe: many explosions!
1069[31/12/2014, 7:39:29 AM] Peter Coffin: so when is sjwcon
1070[31/12/2014, 7:40:03 AM] Charloppe: ^ this
1071[31/12/2014, 7:40:24 AM] Remy: XD
1072[31/12/2014, 7:40:25 AM] Peter Coffin: i either want there to be a real sjwcon or for us to pretend to organize one
1073[31/12/2014, 7:40:33 AM] Remy: We would all have to wear costumes to protect our identity
1074[31/12/2014, 7:40:35 AM] Peter Coffin: and publicize the shit out of it
1075[31/12/2014, 7:40:41 AM] Remy: lol
1076[31/12/2014, 7:40:46 AM] Remy: We would have to pick a fake address
1077[31/12/2014, 7:41:04 AM] Peter Coffin: yes
1078[31/12/2014, 7:41:16 AM] Peter Coffin: and some people would likely attempt to protest it or something
1079[31/12/2014, 7:41:36 AM] Peter Coffin: which would be amazing
1080[31/12/2014, 7:41:43 AM] live:riotarms: Oh god damn
1081[31/12/2014, 7:41:52 AM] live:riotarms: That's a good idea!
1082[31/12/2014, 7:42:05 AM] Remy: I'm thinking maybe find out the fictional address of Willy Wonka's factory
1083[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 AM] Peter Coffin: nah use a real convention center
1084[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 AM] Remy: This is way better than my April Fool's prank idea
1085[31/12/2014, 7:42:31 AM] David Gallant: ... Chuggo Buggo?
1086[31/12/2014, 7:43:10 AM] Remy: I was gonna propose that we fake a SWATTING during an online stream (only it's us in costumes) and, like, whoever volunteers to be the player pretends to get shot and has to stay out of sight while we fake this massive cover up
1087[31/12/2014, 7:43:17 AM] Remy: The police will wonder what unit responded
1088[31/12/2014, 7:43:24 AM] Remy: Nobody will know where the stream was coming from or who was shot
1089[31/12/2014, 7:43:30 AM] Remy: Was it real? Is it a hoax?
1090[31/12/2014, 7:43:41 AM] live:riotarms: Like the Max Headroom hack
1091[31/12/2014, 7:43:41 AM] Remy: And then you can show the full video of everyone being alive on April 1st
1092[31/12/2014, 7:43:45 AM] David Gallant: Great, Randi's engaging in game dev elitism.
1093[31/12/2014, 7:43:57 AM] David Gallant: AMiB is trying to talk her out of it.
1094[31/12/2014, 7:44:03 AM] Remy: I saw
1095[31/12/2014, 7:44:03 AM] David Gallant: But it's not going well.
1096[31/12/2014, 7:44:04 AM] Peter Coffin: nooooooooooooooo
1097[31/12/2014, 7:44:07 AM] Peter Coffin: randi no
1098[31/12/2014, 7:44:09 AM] Remy: I'm not getting involved
1099[31/12/2014, 7:44:46 AM] Remy: I don't think she'd ever practice that form of elitism if I sent her a twine game and said "what do you think" so honestly I think she's just venting frustration at GG's sock puppets all pretending to be game dev's for cheap social status gains
1100[31/12/2014, 7:45:13 AM] Remy: So I say fuck it, let her get her frustrations out. It gets me frustrated when I see it, too.
1101[31/12/2014, 7:45:23 AM] Remy: And I haven't figured out a non-elitist way  to express those thoughts, either
1102[31/12/2014, 7:45:40 AM] Peter Coffin: I'll tell you how
1103[31/12/2014, 7:45:50 AM] live:riotarms: I asked her to try not to use mental health slurs once and she didn't reply
1104[31/12/2014, 7:45:52 AM] Peter Coffin: talk about how kim Kardashian is a dev
1105[31/12/2014, 7:46:05 AM] live:riotarms: I mean I'm not perfect but it pissed me off
1106[31/12/2014, 7:46:21 AM] Remy: XD I'm sorry, I know "that's not a game" is a shitty argument, but I do not call skinner box's games.
1107[31/12/2014, 7:46:27 AM] Remy: The same way I do not call a slot machine a game
1108[31/12/2014, 7:46:27 AM] Peter Coffin: like, good for kim Kardashian, imo
1109[31/12/2014, 7:46:29 AM] Peter Coffin: BUT
1110[31/12/2014, 7:46:32 AM] Remy: I know that, technically, a slot machine is a game
1111[31/12/2014, 7:46:37 AM] Peter Coffin: none of them look at kim k. that way
1112[31/12/2014, 7:46:41 AM] Peter Coffin: they HATE her
1113[31/12/2014, 7:46:54 AM] Charloppe: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/550075388291203072
1114[31/12/2014, 7:47:17 AM] Charloppe: to solve a prob gg suggusts do nothing and blame fenimism
1115[31/12/2014, 7:47:41 AM] Peter Coffin: third wave feminism
1116[31/12/2014, 7:47:45 AM] Peter Coffin: specifically
1117[31/12/2014, 7:47:55 AM] Remy: I used to criticize Kim Kardashian's popularity and success as flimsy and hollow, but I looked back one day and felt that many of my criticisms had too many roots in sexist thinking. I now prefer to embrace her success. That being said, I do not approve of skinner box games, hers included
1118[31/12/2014, 7:48:00 AM] Peter Coffin: the first vaguely intersectional one
1119[31/12/2014, 7:48:11 AM] Remy: I think they are taking advantage of human biology in a way that many of us do not understand
1120[31/12/2014, 7:48:14 AM] Peter Coffin: nor do I
1121[31/12/2014, 7:48:25 AM] Peter Coffin: and I don't like kim Kardashian, not dislike but just ambivalent towards
1122[31/12/2014, 7:48:31 AM] Peter Coffin: like meh
1123[31/12/2014, 7:48:44 AM] David Gallant: Uh, I think Randi insulted me?!?
1124[31/12/2014, 7:48:48 AM] Peter Coffin: but she has made a game and most consider her nothing
1125[31/12/2014, 7:48:51 AM] live:riotarms: Does anyone here like Jeff Minter games?
1126[31/12/2014, 7:48:51 AM] David Gallant: I have no fucking clue what happened.
1127[31/12/2014, 7:48:52 AM] Peter Coffin: link
1128[31/12/2014, 7:48:59 AM] Remy: She's not going to be in a diplomatic mood. I'm just staying out
1129[31/12/2014, 7:49:08 AM] David Gallant: I like TxK
1130[31/12/2014, 7:49:18 AM] live:riotarms: It's so good right
1131[31/12/2014, 7:49:21 AM] David Gallant: Stephen - she doesn't follow me so she can't even see my tweets right now.
1132[31/12/2014, 7:49:28 AM] David Gallant: Knife - YESSSSSSSS
1133[31/12/2014, 7:49:31 AM] live:riotarms: Can't wait for the PS4 version
1134[31/12/2014, 7:49:37 AM] Remy: That's weird, David
1135[31/12/2014, 7:49:46 AM] live:riotarms: Even though I'll be missing the OLED
1136[31/12/2014, 7:51:38 AM] Remy: Also I'm looking at her thread
1137[31/12/2014, 7:51:40 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't really get randi's tweet on you david
1138[31/12/2014, 7:51:44 AM] Remy: It looks like she's being more pedantic than elitist
1139[31/12/2014, 7:51:47 AM] Peter Coffin: like i don't understand it
1140[31/12/2014, 7:51:53 AM] Remy: She's specifying game dev as the branch of coding and development.
1141[31/12/2014, 7:52:10 AM] Remy: If someone was going artwork, Randi would tell them they should say "I'm in game design"
1142[31/12/2014, 7:52:12 AM] Peter Coffin: ehhhhhhhh
1143[31/12/2014, 7:52:17 AM] Remy: But I haven't seen Randi's tweet on David
1144[31/12/2014, 7:52:44 AM] live:riotarms: Visual design has a mechanical function so fuck that
1145[31/12/2014, 7:53:01 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't necessarily agree with that. A director who may be more in the art or writing area of it - who may have limited coding experience but is obviously a visionary
1146[31/12/2014, 7:53:06 AM] Peter Coffin: is that not a game dev?
1147[31/12/2014, 7:54:36 AM] Peter Coffin: like there are several film directors who know nothing about lenses, and even if they do most hire directors of photography
1148[31/12/2014, 7:54:40 AM] Peter Coffin: are they not filmmakers?
1149[31/12/2014, 7:54:58 AM] live:riotarms: If you're applying a theory you're influencing the gestalt the game will become
1150[31/12/2014, 7:55:21 AM] live:riotarms: Even a twitch bullet hell shooter is affecting your emotional state
1151[31/12/2014, 7:55:23 AM] live:riotarms: Etc
1152[31/12/2014, 7:55:58 AM] Peter Coffin: most directors don't write their movies, too
1153[31/12/2014, 7:56:06 AM] Peter Coffin: the majority
1154[31/12/2014, 7:57:07 AM] Peter Coffin: is the sound guy not helping to make a film?
1155[31/12/2014, 7:57:11 AM] Peter Coffin: are they not a filmmaker?
1156[31/12/2014, 7:57:33 AM] Peter Coffin: I very much disagree with the stance that other cogs in the machine besides coders aren't devs
1157[31/12/2014, 7:58:08 AM] Peter Coffin: apologies for saying sound guy, that is what people tend to say despite it not being a gendered job
1158[31/12/2014, 7:58:31 AM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1159[31/12/2014, 7:58:42 AM] Remy: I dunno but it's made me realize that I need to stop thinking I can make a game
1160[31/12/2014, 7:58:50 AM] Peter Coffin: why\
1161[31/12/2014, 7:58:58 AM] Remy: game dev and game design are two different things and I can't script or code or w/e to save my life
1162[31/12/2014, 7:59:05 AM] Remy: I couldn't even do Twine b/c the HTML freaked me out
1163[31/12/2014, 7:59:17 AM] Remy: On my own I will never be able to make a game, I'm just not smart enough w/computers
1164[31/12/2014, 7:59:31 AM] Peter Coffin: oh same here
1165[31/12/2014, 7:59:53 AM] Peter Coffin: I intend to put together a team eventually though. Don't know how, but I have lofty goals
1166[31/12/2014, 8:00:34 AM] live:riotarms: I've got a basic Mario Land engine running but I got most of that from youtube videos
1167[31/12/2014, 8:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: TBH if I ever am able to make this trilogy of turn based rpgs I have in my head I don't know if anything will seem like there is a point in making
1168[31/12/2014, 8:00:53 AM] live:riotarms: No enemies, sprite art or interactive elements (or sound)
1169[31/12/2014, 8:01:54 AM] live:riotarms: Thinking I might do crude art and level motifs inspired by trio the punch
1170[31/12/2014, 8:04:10 AM] live:riotarms: Mario Land is a great design example because they changed the most complex elements of the NES game to suit
1171[31/12/2014, 8:04:29 AM] live:riotarms: So you get a power ball rather than the flower, and turtles explode
1172[31/12/2014, 8:04:42 AM] live:riotarms: It's so weird and grounded in ancient cultures
1173[31/12/2014, 8:22:28 AM] Tesseract: this dude is arguing with spacedad and I and he just keeps digging himself into deeper holes lol
1174[31/12/2014, 8:22:39 AM] drinternetphd: shit wrong window
1175[31/12/2014, 8:22:49 AM] drinternetphd: gg is digging into literally everywhere I've ever worked http://i.gyazo.com/934a1148960758dd0c1c52f1f69e8bae.png
1176[31/12/2014, 8:23:02 AM] Remy: but it's not about you, right?
1177[31/12/2014, 8:23:09 AM] drinternetphd: fucking psychos
1178[31/12/2014, 8:23:13 AM] Remy: That's what they say on all the t-shirts
1179[31/12/2014, 8:24:19 AM] live:riotarms: Say what you will about the UK's draconian bullshit but that wouldn't stand over here
1180[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: cool there's a thread about my lj from when I was 16/17 too
1181[31/12/2014, 8:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/154362+50.html
1182[31/12/2014, 8:24:57 AM] live:riotarms: (Which is why it pays to tip off any GGers in the UK to the cops online)
1183[31/12/2014, 8:24:59 AM] Remy: Isn't that the one you just said you were able to delete?
1184[31/12/2014, 8:25:47 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
1185[31/12/2014, 8:25:49 AM] drinternetphd: too late tho
1186[31/12/2014, 8:25:53 AM] drinternetphd: fucking. psychos.
1187[31/12/2014, 8:25:55 AM] Remy: I wish they would know how this feels
1188[31/12/2014, 8:26:12 AM] Remy: To have hordes of strangers digging into their past
1189[31/12/2014, 8:28:45 AM] Remy: ugh, today sucks just as bad as yesterday. I'm done
1190[31/12/2014, 8:28:55 AM] Remy: And I still haven't scheduled an appt with the doc
1191[31/12/2014, 8:31:29 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/f2b1b7c4beac6260d8803d69024aee86.png
1192[31/12/2014, 8:31:38 AM] drinternetphd: wish I still had contact with any of those people
1193[31/12/2014, 8:32:55 AM] live:riotarms: And this improves Kotaku how
1194[31/12/2014, 8:33:06 AM] live:riotarms: Dicks
1195[31/12/2014, 8:33:30 AM] drinternetphd: like they've now literally harassed every place I've worked at for more than a few months
1196[31/12/2014, 8:33:40 AM] drinternetphd: also this is yet another charity they're harassing
1197[31/12/2014, 8:34:06 AM] Remy: I wonder if we won't actually see them shut up until a group of businesses decides to sue them for damages
1198[31/12/2014, 8:34:09 AM] Remy: For all of the harassment
1199[31/12/2014, 8:34:23 AM] Remy: Like... if we literally have to get our nations highest class citizens, the corporations, involved
1200[31/12/2014, 8:34:33 AM] Remy: before the feds will get off their asses
1201[31/12/2014, 8:35:05 AM] drinternetphd: I am still talking to lawyers and looking for someone down to set precident. Had a good call with a promising one earlier today.
1202[31/12/2014, 8:36:49 AM] Remy: I'm glad to hear it
1203[31/12/2014, 8:37:02 AM] drinternetphd: the lawyer had something like this done to her too
1204[31/12/2014, 8:37:03 AM] drinternetphd: so
1205[31/12/2014, 8:37:18 AM] Remy: She'll be invested and motivated
1206[31/12/2014, 8:37:21 AM] Remy: Good.
1207[31/12/2014, 8:37:44 AM] Remy: I have trust issues with doctors and lawyers so I like to hear when they have a dog in the fight, so to speak
1208[31/12/2014, 8:37:51 AM] drinternetphd: same here to all of that
1209[31/12/2014, 8:38:05 AM] Remy: ^_^" I'm glad you understand I was afraid that would sound insensitive
1210[31/12/2014, 8:38:16 AM] drinternetphd: nah it makes total sense
1211[31/12/2014, 8:38:30 AM] Remy: And life tends to wear me down and make me cynical and utilitarian
1212[31/12/2014, 8:39:02 AM] live:riotarms: Any kind of union representation that could help?
1213[31/12/2014, 8:39:14 AM] Remy: Hmm... that's a good idea
1214[31/12/2014, 8:40:15 AM] Remy: Don't show business industries usually have remarkably tenacious unions?
1215[31/12/2014, 8:41:02 AM] Remy: Maybe Athena has some contacts who would be interested in joining an action to combat online stalking and abuse
1216[31/12/2014, 8:41:20 AM] live:riotarms: Union reps are good dudes to watch a back
1217[31/12/2014, 8:43:09 AM] Remy: And once the fight can coalesce into multiple complainants bringing forth a united case it would only be a matter of time before video game studios pour in their support by the thousands
1218[31/12/2014, 8:43:52 AM] drinternetphd: this is so CREEPY http://i.gyazo.com/620e9f70aad991c7ac1b17a256b29341.png
1219[31/12/2014, 8:45:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Sadly, offhand, I know nada. Porn industry has dick on that front and all the mainstream entertainment people I know are either 'starving artists' or work with SAG/AFTRA.
1220[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Remy: damn
1221[31/12/2014, 8:46:08 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah, holy fucking shit. How does this not ring bells in their heads that say "NO NO NO TO FAR!"
1222[31/12/2014, 8:46:27 AM] Remy: Just goes to show how much of a clueless outsider I was that I just sort-of assumed y'all would be as wrapped up in unions as the rest of Hollywood
1223[31/12/2014, 8:46:43 AM] Athena Hollow: i wish.
1224[31/12/2014, 8:46:52 AM] Athena Hollow: the porn people in Hollywood might be
1225[31/12/2014, 8:46:56 AM] Athena Hollow: but outside that, nope :-/
1226[31/12/2014, 8:47:00 AM] Remy: What, do they keep the entire porn industry in a film-making ghetto or something?
1227[31/12/2014, 8:47:08 AM] Athena Hollow: more or less lol
1228[31/12/2014, 8:47:13 AM] Remy: Ugh
1229[31/12/2014, 8:47:16 AM] Remy: Of course
1230[31/12/2014, 8:47:21 AM] Athena Hollow: we're lepers. :-/
1231[31/12/2014, 8:47:27 AM] Remy: Because if it has sex it has to be dirty and therefore is indefensible
1232[31/12/2014, 8:47:46 AM] Remy: Okay I'm not gonna lie
1233[31/12/2014, 8:47:57 AM] Remy: When I become a media mogul I will not be centering my production companies in America
1234[31/12/2014, 8:48:13 AM] Remy: I'm building all of my studios in NZ
1235[31/12/2014, 8:48:14 AM] Athena Hollow: most of my friends film in canada for a reason LOL
1236[31/12/2014, 8:48:31 AM] Remy: And I suspect we will partner with Canada frequently
1237[31/12/2014, 8:48:50 AM] Remy: Call me a sucker but most Canadians just win me over in about five minutes of conversation. The rest are assholes.
1238[31/12/2014, 8:48:52 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1239[31/12/2014, 8:50:06 AM] drinternetphd: nothin like finding your dox in a search engine
1240[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Remy: ugh
1241[31/12/2014, 8:50:16 AM] Athena Hollow: -_-
1242[31/12/2014, 8:50:35 AM] Remy: They noticed the journals are deleted already?
1243[31/12/2014, 8:50:49 AM] Remy: They're actively looking at this shit?
1244[31/12/2014, 8:50:56 AM] drinternetphd: ys
1245[31/12/2014, 8:51:04 AM] drinternetphd: hence my skeeved-out ness
1246[31/12/2014, 8:51:05 AM] Remy: Well now we know they have literally nobody who cares about them during the holidays
1247[31/12/2014, 8:51:10 AM] Remy: I'm sorry Zoe
1248[31/12/2014, 8:51:55 AM] Remy: I've wrapped myself up in so many names and identities ever since I was a child that I can't imagine not just jettisoning that entire name and never looking back except to raise my finger
1249[31/12/2014, 8:52:25 AM] Remy: But then again I've lost an identity before and it still hurts, so it's dumb of me to pretendd it's that easy
1250[31/12/2014, 9:01:40 AM] Remy: Hey Zoe do you know if there's like a website people can use to check up on doctors before they choose them? Like... "This doctor is an asshole, don't go to them"
1251[31/12/2014, 9:06:56 AM] Remy: Oh great their offices are closed nevermind
1252[31/12/2014, 9:11:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): \sigh\ https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550095982524780545
1253[31/12/2014, 9:11:41 AM] Charloppe: wow gg will not stop being assholes today
1254[31/12/2014, 9:11:49 AM] Charloppe: one thing after another
1255[31/12/2014, 9:12:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah
1256[31/12/2014, 9:12:54 AM] Charloppe: what a shit day
1257[31/12/2014, 9:13:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hugs
1258[31/12/2014, 9:13:17 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe hugs back
1259[31/12/2014, 9:13:19 AM] Rob: I love all of you <3
1260[31/12/2014, 9:13:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): <3
1261[31/12/2014, 9:13:30 AM] Charloppe: you doing any better rob?
1262[31/12/2014, 9:13:36 AM] Rob: oh fuck yeah
1263[31/12/2014, 9:13:38 AM] Rob: I feel so much better now
1264[31/12/2014, 9:13:50 AM] Charloppe: booze gives your sanity back
1265[31/12/2014, 9:14:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
1266[31/12/2014, 9:14:27 AM] Charloppe: I need booze
1267[31/12/2014, 9:14:50 AM] Rob: Booze + games + not being around super right wing ppl
1268[31/12/2014, 9:15:12 AM] Charloppe: to many transphobes and ggs today
1269[31/12/2014, 9:15:19 AM] Quinnae: hugs folks I return
1270[31/12/2014, 9:15:22 AM] Remy: I replace booze w/weed 'cause well... I relied on alcohol to deal with stress in the Army way too much so I quit when I got out.
1271[31/12/2014, 9:15:27 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe mole hugs
1272[31/12/2014, 9:15:35 AM] Remy: I also quit smoking tobacco cigarettes when I got out, too
1273[31/12/2014, 9:15:38 AM] Charloppe: weed would also be good
1274[31/12/2014, 9:16:08 AM] Remy: Also I just saw way too many other soldiers, like... relying on alcohol and then shooting themselves or someone else or doing something equally life-destroying
1275[31/12/2014, 9:16:19 AM] Charloppe: :(
1276[31/12/2014, 9:17:10 AM] Remy: I wanna throw a huge party with everyone though and have drinks and cookie cake and weed and video games and crazy music and for some reason stuffed animals and balloons
1277[31/12/2014, 9:17:31 AM] Remy: Although some of the stuffed animals should be those little fuzzy microbe and germ stuffed animals those are so cute
1278[31/12/2014, 9:18:07 AM] Charloppe: i would love to do that. Hanging around cool ppl is something I need more of.
1279[31/12/2014, 9:18:15 AM] Remy: Oh wow they have a giant ebola microbe now
1280[31/12/2014, 9:18:20 AM] drinternetphd: :|
1281[31/12/2014, 9:18:24 AM] Remy: http://www.giantmicrobes.com/?gclid=CILOu4CO78ICFYVafgodvoYAVg
1282[31/12/2014, 9:18:29 AM] drinternetphd: while googling my old account names I found a dox on me
1283[31/12/2014, 9:18:30 AM] drinternetphd: " 
1284=== SKYPES ===
1285 
1286drinternetphd
1287Zoe Quinn, Boston, Massachusetts, United States
1288Attached emails:
1289- [REDACTED]
1290- [REDACTED]
1291- [REDACTED]
1292- [REDACTED]
1293 
1294P.S. to Zoe: Attaching more emails doesn't actually make a Skype account easier to recover; just easier to compromise."
1295[31/12/2014, 9:18:51 AM] Remy: wtf
1296[31/12/2014, 9:19:18 AM] Charloppe: im to tired and angry to make a stupid ethics joke
1297[31/12/2014, 9:19:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
1298[31/12/2014, 9:19:50 AM] Charloppe: these ppl deserve crushing loneliness
1299[31/12/2014, 9:22:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): holy crap. just found that pastebin now. that is only a small part of a HUGE dox dump. wtf
1300[31/12/2014, 9:23:49 AM] Charloppe: zoe deserves much better then this. Inhuman monsters.
1301[31/12/2014, 9:25:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I guess we can report it and hope it gets taken down
1302[31/12/2014, 9:26:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hop on over to Serious channel
1303[31/12/2014, 9:44:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD. GamerGate mentioned in a song made by the BBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTU-7aLmhlo
1304[31/12/2014, 9:44:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): around the 36 second mark
1305[31/12/2014, 9:45:47 AM] Tesseract: hehehehe
1306[31/12/2014, 9:46:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Gamer bloody gating
1307[31/12/2014, 9:46:29 AM] Remy: lol
1308[31/12/2014, 9:46:33 AM] Remy: I posted that link Izzy
1309[31/12/2014, 9:46:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Cool
1310[31/12/2014, 9:46:42 AM] Remy: And instantly I got manually RTed by a Gater on my block list XD
1311[31/12/2014, 9:46:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Someone shared it on Ghazi
1312[31/12/2014, 9:46:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
1313[31/12/2014, 9:47:55 AM] Remy: okay I'm gonna put some music on and do some dishes while the tears pile up in my mentions
1314[31/12/2014, 9:48:05 AM] Remy: tra-la-la-la
1315[31/12/2014, 9:48:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha. ok. have fun!
1316[31/12/2014, 9:49:37 AM] Quinnae: laughs I do love Charlie Brooker.
1317[31/12/2014, 9:49:56 AM] Remy: one of these days I need to ask Randi why her bots always fav my tweets randomly
1318[31/12/2014, 9:50:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): She coded them that way.
1319[31/12/2014, 9:50:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They randomly favorite tweets of people they follow
1320[31/12/2014, 9:50:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): COLLUSION to boost your twitter stats
1321[31/12/2014, 9:50:59 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1322[31/12/2014, 9:51:16 AM] Charloppe: hmm sex for favors?
1323[31/12/2014, 9:51:45 AM] Charloppe: something something corruption
1324[31/12/2014, 9:51:57 AM] Remy: I don't wanna sound like a typical lizard-brain human but when they do come out with perfect sex robots y'all will never hear from me again
1325[31/12/2014, 9:52:25 AM] Charloppe: the feminists will steal all of your waifus
1326[31/12/2014, 9:52:29 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
1327[31/12/2014, 9:52:47 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah... same...
1328[31/12/2014, 9:52:51 AM] Charloppe: corrupted me pretty quick
1329[31/12/2014, 9:53:01 AM] Athena Hollow: 3somes w/o dudes gettin weird afterward? sign me right the fuck up.
1330[31/12/2014, 9:53:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
1331[31/12/2014, 9:53:10 AM] Charloppe: insert joke about sjw hivemind
1332[31/12/2014, 9:53:36 AM] Remy: I have technically had a threesome without dudes getting weird about it at the end
1333[31/12/2014, 9:53:45 AM] Remy: But A) we were all dudes and B) None of us were in a long term relationship
1334[31/12/2014, 9:53:49 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
1335[31/12/2014, 9:53:56 AM] Athena Hollow: well amusingly it's never my husband that gets weird about it
1336[31/12/2014, 9:53:58 AM] Charloppe: i have yet to try a threesome
1337[31/12/2014, 9:54:00 AM] Athena Hollow: it's always the other guy.
1338[31/12/2014, 9:54:11 AM] Rob: DEVIL'S THREESOME
1339[31/12/2014, 9:54:13 AM] Remy: Like we were all casual friends at a party and the room was empty and we kinda realized we'd been flirting with each other all weekend
1340[31/12/2014, 9:54:22 AM] Athena Hollow: (when it happens that is. it doesn't always happen that dude gets weird)
1341[31/12/2014, 9:55:26 AM] Remy: Actually now that I think about it... I'd been flirting with each of them but never at the same time, so when they first met I thought I was going to be in big trouble. That's when I found out they already knew each other
1342[31/12/2014, 9:55:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1343[31/12/2014, 9:55:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. just found 2 hilarious comments from paranoid gaters about Google
1344[31/12/2014, 9:55:33 AM] Remy: And then sex happened
1345[31/12/2014, 9:55:34 AM] Rob: One of the bad things about being straight is it really limits your threesome options, I guess
1346[31/12/2014, 9:55:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): gonna tweet in a sec
1347[31/12/2014, 9:55:43 AM] Charloppe: wait whoa I gotta be a sex negative feminist
1348[31/12/2014, 9:55:43 AM] Athena Hollow: THE SEX grasps pearls
1349[31/12/2014, 9:55:48 AM] Remy: XD
1350[31/12/2014, 9:55:50 AM] Charloppe: how dare I crave sex
1351[31/12/2014, 9:56:08 AM] Athena Hollow: only sorta limits Rob haha. My husband is straight and i'm... 'try-anything-sexual'
1352[31/12/2014, 9:56:12 AM] Athena Hollow: sooooooooooo
1353[31/12/2014, 9:56:35 AM] Remy: I had to struggle past an insane amount of internalized homophobia
1354[31/12/2014, 9:56:38 AM] Remy: as a teenager
1355[31/12/2014, 9:56:40 AM] Rob: Well having another dude in the mix would kill my sexy time mood
1356[31/12/2014, 9:56:42 AM] Remy: And a child
1357[31/12/2014, 9:56:51 AM] Rob: I'd just be like 'eh'
1358[31/12/2014, 9:56:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Do you not watch porn with cock in it?
1359[31/12/2014, 9:56:54 AM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Some people aren't into it Rob
1360[31/12/2014, 9:56:57 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
1361[31/12/2014, 9:56:59 AM] Rob: not usually tbh lol
1362[31/12/2014, 9:57:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Well then, never fucking mind! hahahahahahah
1363[31/12/2014, 9:57:07 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
1364[31/12/2014, 9:57:19 AM] Athena Hollow: I always loved bringing that up around super homophobic dudes.
1365[31/12/2014, 9:57:24 AM] Rob: :D
1366[31/12/2014, 9:57:29 AM] Charloppe: i do like girl cock
1367[31/12/2014, 9:57:30 AM] Athena Hollow: (not saying you're homophobic rob. that was a dumb way to say that)
1368[31/12/2014, 9:57:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1369[31/12/2014, 9:57:35 AM] Rob: I mean other guys just aren't attractive to me
1370[31/12/2014, 9:57:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHAHAHA: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550108418724622337
1371[31/12/2014, 9:57:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHAHA
1372[31/12/2014, 9:57:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHA
1373[31/12/2014, 9:57:40 AM] Rob: yeah I don't have a problem w/ that, charlotte
1374[31/12/2014, 9:57:47 AM] Rob: but guys i'm just like - ick no thx
1375[31/12/2014, 9:57:49 AM] Rob: imma play scrabble
1376[31/12/2014, 9:57:53 AM] Charloppe: same lol
1377[31/12/2014, 9:58:41 AM] Charloppe: such sex negative this chat
1378[31/12/2014, 9:58:47 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1379[31/12/2014, 9:58:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I like boobies
1380[31/12/2014, 9:58:57 AM] Rob: :D
1381[31/12/2014, 9:59:00 AM] Athena Hollow: me too!
1382[31/12/2014, 9:59:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
1383[31/12/2014, 9:59:09 AM] Charloppe: they make great pillows
1384[31/12/2014, 9:59:15 AM] Rob: I mean, it's just a preference thing for me
1385[31/12/2014, 9:59:20 AM] Rob: if other people like stuff, cool beans
1386[31/12/2014, 9:59:45 AM] Athena Hollow: They really do make great pillows. Mine would be like laying on a wooden floor though LOLOL
1387[31/12/2014, 10:00:10 AM] Charloppe: sarah has some nice boob pillows
1388[31/12/2014, 10:00:21 AM] Charloppe: they make me sleepy
1389[31/12/2014, 10:00:25 AM] Rob: boobs are cool
1390[31/12/2014, 10:00:25 AM] Athena Hollow: hehe
1391[31/12/2014, 10:00:27 AM] Rob: I'm a butt man, tho
1392[31/12/2014, 10:00:31 AM] Charloppe: YES
1393[31/12/2014, 10:00:33 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah thank god my husband is too
1394[31/12/2014, 10:00:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
1395[31/12/2014, 10:00:38 AM] Athena Hollow: because he'd have been SOL otherwise
1396[31/12/2014, 10:00:57 AM] live:riotarms: I like boobs but there's also a certain kind of flat chest that's hot as hell
1397[31/12/2014, 10:01:05 AM] Athena Hollow: Not that we don't appreciate a nice pair of boobs or anything, but definitely ass people over here.
1398[31/12/2014, 10:01:14 AM] Remy: oh y'all too?
1399[31/12/2014, 10:01:19 AM] Remy: butts are the best
1400[31/12/2014, 10:01:28 AM] Rob: ASS! HIGH FIVES EVERYONE
1401[31/12/2014, 10:01:28 AM] Athena Hollow: I fortunately never have to worry about gravity taking over the boob department, so that's good.
1402[31/12/2014, 10:01:31 AM] Charloppe: butts are fun :3
1403[31/12/2014, 10:01:31 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahahah
1404[31/12/2014, 10:01:43 AM] Rob: LOL god I am so drunk
1405[31/12/2014, 10:01:47 AM] Rob: i rarely talk about this stuff haha
1406[31/12/2014, 10:01:48 AM] Athena Hollow: <3
1407[31/12/2014, 10:01:56 AM] Charloppe: wow rob so sex negative
1408[31/12/2014, 10:01:59 AM] Athena Hollow: I think we all also tend to bring it out in each other hahahahaha
1409[31/12/2014, 10:02:03 AM] Rob: nah I'm kind of a prude when it comes to me
1410[31/12/2014, 10:02:10 AM] Rob: Like I don't mind other people talking about stuff
1411[31/12/2014, 10:02:23 AM] Rob: but I'm all puritan when it comes to me, haha
1412[31/12/2014, 10:02:45 AM] drinternetphd: I'm just negative about everything does that count
1413[31/12/2014, 10:02:58 AM] Charloppe: hmmm sarah butts...it all mkaes sense now
1414[31/12/2014, 10:03:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
1415[31/12/2014, 10:03:11 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
1416[31/12/2014, 10:03:33 AM] Rob: OMG IT DOES MAKE SENSE NOW
1417[31/12/2014, 10:03:35 AM] Charloppe: i sense a conspiracy
1418[31/12/2014, 10:03:40 AM] Rob: IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU FIND OUT THAT VALEN IS SINCLAIR
1419[31/12/2014, 10:03:49 AM] Remy: I usually try to keep my problems to myself lol ^_^" I've opened up a lot more than usual in here with you folks
1420[31/12/2014, 10:04:07 AM] Charloppe: Same :)
1421[31/12/2014, 10:04:38 AM] Rob: Rob boops everyone noses.
1422[31/12/2014, 10:05:22 AM] Remy: Let me know when Sarah sees my new Twitter avatar
1423[31/12/2014, 10:05:24 AM] Remy: lol
1424[31/12/2014, 10:05:44 AM] Charloppe: Ill let her know :D
1425[31/12/2014, 10:05:47 AM] Quinnae: Hey all, I'm back. What's up? :)
1426[31/12/2014, 10:05:52 AM] Rob: KATHERINE!!!!
1427[31/12/2014, 10:05:53 AM] Charloppe: talking bout butts
1428[31/12/2014, 10:05:57 AM] Rob: I'm drunk and gonna play anachronox
1429[31/12/2014, 10:05:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Literally
1430[31/12/2014, 10:06:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Butts
1431[31/12/2014, 10:06:01 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1432[31/12/2014, 10:06:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and boobies
1433[31/12/2014, 10:06:03 AM] drinternetphd: jesus this thread goes straight to 11
1434[31/12/2014, 10:06:04 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/ab459e77f8ce2cfc3302214b7c61c617.png
1435[31/12/2014, 10:06:05 AM] Charloppe: and boobs
1436[31/12/2014, 10:06:13 AM] live:riotarms: Night everyone
1437[31/12/2014, 10:06:18 AM] Charloppe: byyyye
1438[31/12/2014, 10:06:23 AM] Rob: Night!
1439[31/12/2014, 10:06:27 AM] Athena Hollow: holy fucking shit
1440[31/12/2014, 10:06:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe, holy shit
1441[31/12/2014, 10:06:40 AM] Rob: It's not loading for me
1442[31/12/2014, 10:06:42 AM] Athena Hollow: 8chan needs nuked from fucking orbit
1443[31/12/2014, 10:06:43 AM] Remy: I can't load it but I'll assume it's crazy
1444[31/12/2014, 10:06:55 AM] Rob: HOLY SHIT it just loaded
1445[31/12/2014, 10:06:58 AM] Athena Hollow: it's about ethics in revenge rape. :-/
1446[31/12/2014, 10:07:24 AM] Remy: Now might be a good time to mention that at a the end of season 2 Dr. Q finally destroys the H8CHAIN forever by defeating Adam Baldwin in a duel and summoning the Nidhogg
1447[31/12/2014, 10:07:24 AM] Charloppe: Insert shitty ethics joke
1448[31/12/2014, 10:07:42 AM] Charloppe: Shut up and take my money
1449[31/12/2014, 10:07:46 AM] Remy: XD
1450[31/12/2014, 10:07:51 AM] Remy: Your character is a mole
1451[31/12/2014, 10:07:57 AM] Remy: And Sarah is a sleuth reporter
1452[31/12/2014, 10:08:07 AM] Remy: investigative journalist
1453[31/12/2014, 10:08:12 AM] Charloppe: The best of the best
1454[31/12/2014, 10:08:13 AM] Remy: Who can morph into different animals
1455[31/12/2014, 10:08:24 AM] Athena Hollow: i swear my cat Cake is psychic. Everytime I've read completely horrible shit said by people today, she's come wandering in and jumped up in my lap purring.
1456[31/12/2014, 10:08:33 AM] Quinnae: Gods, Zoe, I'm sorry.
1457[31/12/2014, 10:08:42 AM] Quinnae: sighs and flops
1458[31/12/2014, 10:08:54 AM] Charloppe: i dont think my christmas wish came true
1459[31/12/2014, 10:08:58 AM] Quinnae: Well, Stephen... if it helps your artistic direction, draw me as a Valkyrie.
1460[31/12/2014, 10:09:05 AM] Charloppe: asked for gg to stop being shitty
1461[31/12/2014, 10:09:09 AM] Remy: Jesus, Zoe
1462[31/12/2014, 10:09:16 AM] Remy: That's terrible.
1463[31/12/2014, 10:09:42 AM] Remy: Actually, Katherine, I'm very glad to have your input on your character. Valkyrie sounds like a glorious direction for her
1464[31/12/2014, 10:09:48 AM] Tesseract: is randi here or does she have a thing that alerts her when I say her name
1465[31/12/2014, 10:10:04 AM] Remy: Although these are just inspirational characters, I don't want anyone to think it will turn into personal life fan fictions and stalker comics
1466[31/12/2014, 10:10:11 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1467[31/12/2014, 10:10:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, Randi, Randi
1468[31/12/2014, 10:10:48 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1469[31/12/2014, 10:11:00 AM] drinternetphd: I tried a new thing
1470[31/12/2014, 10:11:06 AM] drinternetphd: reported the pastebins and archive.todays for abuse
1471[31/12/2014, 10:11:18 AM] Athena Hollow: me too
1472[31/12/2014, 10:11:21 AM] Remy: same
1473[31/12/2014, 10:11:34 AM] Remy: Izzy prepped a link that auto-filled the links
1474[31/12/2014, 10:11:35 AM] Tesseract: I just reported one pastebin, where were the other ones
1475[31/12/2014, 10:11:50 AM] Remy: ^ I will also report any others that are posted here
1476[31/12/2014, 10:11:53 AM] drinternetphd: http://pastebin.com/sjV15Qg5
1477[31/12/2014, 10:11:59 AM] drinternetphd: http://pastebin.com/xPqpuizp
1478[31/12/2014, 10:12:31 AM] drinternetphd: or really just http://pastebin.com/search?cx=013305635491195529773%3A0ufpuq-fpt0&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=zoe+quinn&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search
1479[31/12/2014, 10:12:38 AM] Remy: Oh wow that will do it
1480[31/12/2014, 10:13:12 AM] Tesseract: http://pastebin.com/rFX1pTfX omg
1481[31/12/2014, 10:14:10 AM] Tesseract: can we get a huge list of shit to report
1482[31/12/2014, 10:14:22 AM] Tesseract: and for what
1483[31/12/2014, 10:14:50 AM] Tesseract: also move to seriouschat
1484[31/12/2014, 10:20:43 AM] Tesseract: .
1485[31/12/2014, 10:25:47 AM] Remy: So hey Zoe I found out that I stink at Nidhogg
1486[31/12/2014, 10:25:55 AM] Remy: I mean it's fun as balls but I suck at it
1487[31/12/2014, 10:26:05 AM] drinternetphd: grow stronger
1488[31/12/2014, 10:26:26 AM] Remy: It was never my style of game, Zoe. Even old-school fighting games like street fighter I was always a button masher at heart
1489[31/12/2014, 10:26:33 AM] Remy: No reflexes, I freak out
1490[31/12/2014, 10:26:36 AM] Remy: I'm a planner
1491[31/12/2014, 10:27:06 AM] Remy: turn-based <3
1492[31/12/2014, 10:31:44 AM] Tesseract: where's dan's updated board list
1493[31/12/2014, 10:35:51 AM] drinternetphd: "But apparently fucking 100 guys in 2 years is totally better than a relationship built on trust.
1494
1495I know you're reading this Liftshit, she's getting gangbanged while you're "defending her honor" you fucking privileged trustfund baby."
1496[31/12/2014, 10:35:58 AM] drinternetphd: whee
1497[31/12/2014, 10:36:14 AM] Remy: :(
1498[31/12/2014, 10:36:24 AM] Remy: They're sociopaths, Zoe, I'm so sorry
1499[31/12/2014, 10:36:35 AM] Remy: They're so utterly detached that they've become dangerous
1500[31/12/2014, 10:36:43 AM] Remy: detached and malicious and dangerous
1501[31/12/2014, 10:36:44 AM] Athena Hollow: blar
1502[31/12/2014, 10:37:27 AM] drinternetphd: what is even wrong with getting gangbanged if that's your thing
1503[31/12/2014, 10:37:34 AM] drinternetphd: also who obsesses over a 17 year old's blog jfc
1504[31/12/2014, 10:38:03 AM] Athena Hollow: but WE'RE the sex negative ones, remember??
1505[31/12/2014, 10:38:05 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
1506[31/12/2014, 10:38:17 AM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, I just went and deleted mine when you mentioned yours for the same reason
1507[31/12/2014, 10:38:31 AM] Athena Hollow: most of it was random shit from before porn, some was after... either way, don't need it.
1508[31/12/2014, 10:39:51 AM] Remy: A lot of my past has been tied up after seeing what they have been doing
1509[31/12/2014, 10:39:57 AM] Remy: But I don't wanna get cocky
1510[31/12/2014, 10:40:10 AM] Remy: There are ends I wish I could remember the passwords to so I could tie them up
1511[31/12/2014, 10:41:47 AM] Remy: Oh wow I almost typed in here what I was going to text to my husband
1512[31/12/2014, 10:42:07 AM] Remy: Which luckily would not have been super dirty but I would have accidentally professed my love to an awful lot of people and promised to do an awful lot of dishes
1513[31/12/2014, 10:42:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's okay, Stephen. We love you too
1514[31/12/2014, 10:42:32 AM] Remy: <3
1515[31/12/2014, 10:42:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Heh
1516[31/12/2014, 10:42:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
1517[31/12/2014, 10:43:49 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1518[31/12/2014, 10:48:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tolvo made another storify documenting GG's harassment toward Veerender. https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550121163733880835
1519[31/12/2014, 10:48:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :/
1520[31/12/2014, 10:50:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: holy shit charloppe got RT'd 1.2k times
1521[31/12/2014, 10:50:20 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
1522[31/12/2014, 10:50:27 AM] Athena Hollow: was a damn good tweet lol
1523[31/12/2014, 10:50:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wait. Which tweet?
1524[31/12/2014, 10:51:00 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Nibelsnarfabarf/status/549941396095119360
1525[31/12/2014, 10:51:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. that's a great tweet
1526[31/12/2014, 10:51:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Rob is drunk: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550117977274990592
1527[31/12/2014, 10:51:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
1528[31/12/2014, 10:52:21 AM] Charloppe: sarah i missed your butt
1529[31/12/2014, 10:52:31 AM] Quinnae: Charlotte kicked butt.
1530[31/12/2014, 10:52:36 AM] Charloppe: the ggs dogpiled
1531[31/12/2014, 10:52:47 AM] Charloppe: and i was all like Im a mole
1532[31/12/2014, 10:52:53 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1533[31/12/2014, 10:56:09 AM] Charloppe: katherine cross fav one of my tweets. teehee
1534[31/12/2014, 10:56:20 AM] Charloppe: sjw hivemind!
1535[31/12/2014, 10:56:33 AM] Athena Hollow: lolol
1536[31/12/2014, 10:56:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550123280087396352 how can they be this dumb
1537[31/12/2014, 10:56:48 AM] Athena Hollow: drugs?
1538[31/12/2014, 10:56:49 AM] Dan Olson: Everyone likes big sexy butts!
1539[31/12/2014, 10:56:56 AM] Athena Hollow: hahha
1540[31/12/2014, 10:56:58 AM] Dan Olson: Also Dan got his 32 gigs of RAM installed
1541[31/12/2014, 10:56:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dan are you drunk too
1542[31/12/2014, 10:57:04 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
1543[31/12/2014, 10:57:13 AM] Athena Hollow: no no we were having a convo about butts earlier XD
1544[31/12/2014, 10:57:18 AM] Charloppe: ooooh they dog onepiled me for that
1545[31/12/2014, 10:57:22 AM] Athena Hollow: and boob pillows. and 3somes. and robot sex machines.
1546[31/12/2014, 10:57:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: everyone likes big sexy butts. except the ones on 8chan ;-;;
1547[31/12/2014, 10:57:31 AM] Dan Olson: 32 gig spells "F U C K Y O U A D O B E A F T E R E F F E C T S"
1548[31/12/2014, 10:57:53 AM] Charloppe: ac unity was glitchy
1549[31/12/2014, 10:57:53 AM] Athena Hollow: ughhhhhh after effects + premiere = the bane to my existence
1550[31/12/2014, 10:57:58 AM] Charloppe: gamers have it tough
1551[31/12/2014, 10:58:03 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is it bad i run with 16 and even just mostly from browser tabs i can run out of memory since i have swap off x-x
1552[31/12/2014, 10:58:21 AM] Athena Hollow: Athena Hollow sighs at her pitiful 4
1553[31/12/2014, 10:58:25 AM] Dan Olson: I love them, but FML trying to Dynamic Link an AE file while it's open
1554[31/12/2014, 10:58:39 AM] Dan Olson: oh, that's me, 100%
1555[31/12/2014, 10:58:52 AM] Dan Olson: I'll be all "I probably have too many tabs open"
1556[31/12/2014, 10:58:58 AM] Dan Olson: and people will challenge me on it
1557[31/12/2014, 10:59:01 AM] Athena Hollow: i cannot wait til i can finally upgrade my computer in a couple months.
1558[31/12/2014, 10:59:08 AM] Dan Olson: "lol, I bet I have more open than you! Tee hee!"
1559[31/12/2014, 10:59:11 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1560[31/12/2014, 10:59:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: tabs are my "i might read this later" and "later" turns into "two weeks from now" x-x
1561[31/12/2014, 10:59:38 AM] Dan Olson: and I'm all "No, mother@$%#er, you definitely do not."
1562[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 AM] Athena Hollow: i have bookmark folders I have to sort through once a week because of that lol
1563[31/12/2014, 11:00:06 AM] Dan Olson: "oh, well, I've got almost 20 tabs open ;-)"
1564[31/12/2014, 11:00:08 AM] drinternetphd: lmao
1565[31/12/2014, 11:00:12 AM] drinternetphd: ">Guitar Center said come back when you're 18. After they said they'd hire me. Fucking assholes. A flat-out "no" would've been a lot less heartbreaking.
1566
1567wait she was doing underage suicide girls style modeling?"
1568[31/12/2014, 11:00:16 AM] Dan Olson: "I'VE GOT 75!"
1569[31/12/2014, 11:00:23 AM] drinternetphd: this guy seriously thinks guitar center is like suicidegirls
1570[31/12/2014, 11:00:24 AM] Charloppe: i got a rock
1571[31/12/2014, 11:00:27 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
1572[31/12/2014, 11:00:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ...
1573[31/12/2014, 11:00:31 AM] Athena Hollow: how fucking dumb
1574[31/12/2014, 11:00:33 AM] nicholas.boterf: Jesus the harassment of Veerender has been worse than I’ve seen. Fuck everything.
1575[31/12/2014, 11:00:43 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what're they going after him for now?
1576[31/12/2014, 11:00:55 AM] Charloppe: cause they are horrible ppl
1577[31/12/2014, 11:00:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They haven't stopped
1578[31/12/2014, 11:01:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): since weeks ago
1579[31/12/2014, 11:01:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): from my understanding
1580[31/12/2014, 11:01:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): MundaneMatt sending his followers after Veerender didn't help
1581[31/12/2014, 11:02:17 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't see MM do that. was it a video or tweets?
1582[31/12/2014, 11:02:22 AM] Remy: ohey Sarah
1583[31/12/2014, 11:02:30 AM] Remy: Do you like my new Twitter Avatar or does it bother you?
1584[31/12/2014, 11:02:41 AM] Athena Hollow: tweets.
1585[31/12/2014, 11:02:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, MundaneMatt screenshotted Veerender saying "video games are garbage" and sent his followers to dogpile
1586[31/12/2014, 11:03:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarcasm is too complex for them to understand
1587[31/12/2014, 11:03:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Even the KiA mods labeled it as "THIS IS SARCASM"
1588[31/12/2014, 11:03:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
1589[31/12/2014, 11:03:28 AM] Athena Hollow: that's how fucking dumb it is.
1590[31/12/2014, 11:03:52 AM] Lars Flyger (Zennistrad): People are still saying that Dan Olsen will be prosecuted for his 8chan article.
1591[31/12/2014, 11:04:02 AM] Athena Hollow: they're dumb.
1592[31/12/2014, 11:04:07 AM] Athena Hollow: Another gger jumps ship: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qvd2f/i_was_wrong_about_gamerghazi_and_gamergate_not/
1593[31/12/2014, 11:04:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Lars, GGer's are dumb. You can throw this link their way when they say what Dan did was illegal: http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-80.html#docCont
1594[31/12/2014, 11:04:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (section 6)
1595[31/12/2014, 11:07:52 AM] Rob: GGers are losers who have been hit by touch of idiocy repeatedly b/c they failed all their saving throws
1596[31/12/2014, 11:08:22 AM] Rob: also they probably smell like cat food
1597[31/12/2014, 11:08:25 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1598[31/12/2014, 11:09:21 AM] Charloppe: i hit them in the head with a plunger. back to the sewer wence they came
1599[31/12/2014, 11:09:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No GGers have tried to engage me today even though I've been using the hashtag in my tweets.
1600[31/12/2014, 11:09:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
1601[31/12/2014, 11:09:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
1602[31/12/2014, 11:10:10 AM] Remy: one of them manually RTed me
1603[31/12/2014, 11:10:14 AM] Remy: with that YT song
1604[31/12/2014, 11:10:16 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
1605[31/12/2014, 11:10:35 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550126776111099909
1606[31/12/2014, 11:13:12 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550118622912192512 someone guy from GG claiming they know what i look like
1607[31/12/2014, 11:13:41 AM] Athena Hollow: ...
1608[31/12/2014, 11:13:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "Buttsy". That's Jordan Owen
1609[31/12/2014, 11:13:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): has to be
1610[31/12/2014, 11:13:50 AM] Athena Hollow: haven't they consistently gotten that wrong? lol
1611[31/12/2014, 11:13:53 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550119503799930880
1612[31/12/2014, 11:13:55 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: they have
1613[31/12/2014, 11:13:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no idea if they're right this time tho
1614[31/12/2014, 11:14:00 AM] Remy: They're always wrong
1615[31/12/2014, 11:14:18 AM] Remy: I thought you kept your accounts clean of personally identifiable info
1616[31/12/2014, 11:14:30 AM] Remy: How could they possibly ever get PID?
1617[31/12/2014, 11:14:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: depending on how dedicated they were it's in theory POSSIBLE just really really hard
1618[31/12/2014, 11:15:03 AM] Charloppe: ONE EXAMPLE sarah
1619[31/12/2014, 11:15:09 AM] Charloppe: give me one
1620[31/12/2014, 11:15:11 AM] Tesseract: nah he's just a huge idiot who doxxed the wrong person
1621[31/12/2014, 11:15:24 AM] Remy: Well my account is temporarily a tribute account to you so maybe that will throw them off the trail
1622[31/12/2014, 11:15:30 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
1623[31/12/2014, 11:16:07 AM] Rob: I'm gonna bed <333333333333333333333333333333
1624[31/12/2014, 11:16:10 AM] Tesseract: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&via=Topsy hehehehehehe
1625[31/12/2014, 11:16:12 AM] Charloppe: nini rob
1626[31/12/2014, 11:16:14 AM] Athena Hollow: <3 night rob
1627[31/12/2014, 11:16:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Looks like he think's you're an SA goon lol
1628[31/12/2014, 11:17:07 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Rasputin_RGLM/status/550119778849787905
1629[31/12/2014, 11:18:15 AM] Charloppe: the fuck did I read
1630[31/12/2014, 11:18:27 AM] Athena Hollow: nonsense from a dummy
1631[31/12/2014, 11:18:42 AM] Charloppe: sarah butts is mine
1632[31/12/2014, 11:18:56 AM] Charloppe: and others who are cool
1633[31/12/2014, 11:20:38 AM] Remy: They always think we're an "SA Goon"
1634[31/12/2014, 11:20:53 AM] Tesseract: they're really obsessed with the goon thing lately
1635[31/12/2014, 11:20:54 AM] Remy: Which makes me feel left out :( the only time I ever heard of Something Awful was in middle school
1636[31/12/2014, 11:21:26 AM] Athena Hollow: They're trying really hard to pin all the bad shit on SA to wash their hands of it
1637[31/12/2014, 11:21:28 AM] Remy: For lunch I would always hide away in the theatre room and fuck around on the internet but sometimes the Edgy Teens would go in there and go look at gory pictures of people getting killed
1638[31/12/2014, 11:21:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess, without RT's, even bigger decline: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate%20-RT&via=Topsy
1639[31/12/2014, 11:21:54 AM] Remy: And I was like fuck that noise I'mma go hand out under the stairwell with the other lonely teens
1640[31/12/2014, 11:22:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hi all
1641[31/12/2014, 11:22:05 AM] Remy: Or go to the Magic: The Gathering table
1642[31/12/2014, 11:23:32 AM] Tesseract: yesss get owned gamergate
1643[31/12/2014, 11:23:37 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've kinda been skimming around, anything important going on today?
1644[31/12/2014, 11:24:01 AM] Tesseract: we're searching pastebin and archive.today in an attempt to scrub the internet of gg's filth
1645[31/12/2014, 11:24:21 AM] Tesseract: I want a response from either of them before I mass report shit to ensure I'm not wasting my time though
1646[31/12/2014, 11:24:23 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: asking them to take things down?
1647[31/12/2014, 11:24:25 AM] Tesseract: yes
1648[31/12/2014, 11:24:35 AM] Tesseract: someone give me an incriminating archive.today to report
1649[31/12/2014, 11:25:12 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: all the ones I have bookmarked are ones I was using as examples
1650[31/12/2014, 11:27:53 AM] Athena Hollow: posted one in serious
1651[31/12/2014, 11:30:11 AM] Remy: Does anyone know how to enable 2FA for one's Amazon account?
1652[31/12/2014, 11:30:22 AM] Remy: That shit has my relatives in from when I ship them gifts
1653[31/12/2014, 11:31:01 AM] Tesseract: why is "government criticism" a report option
1654[31/12/2014, 11:31:12 AM] Athena Hollow: O___________o
1655[31/12/2014, 11:31:15 AM] Athena Hollow: that's...odd
1656[31/12/2014, 11:31:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, I know we do for Amazon Web Services. let me check for Amazon.com
1657[31/12/2014, 11:31:44 AM] Remy: Yeah AWS is listed on the 2factor .org website
1658[31/12/2014, 11:31:49 AM] Remy: But not regular Amazon
1659[31/12/2014, 11:32:13 AM] Remy: Oh well I have to go G'night I'm gonna go quiet while I hang out with my husband and do homework and shit
1660[31/12/2014, 11:32:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. goodnight!
1661[31/12/2014, 11:33:01 AM] Athena Hollow: <3 night Stephen.
1662[31/12/2014, 11:33:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow, looks like Amazon.com doesn't have 2FA yet. Come on retail, get with it. lol
1663[31/12/2014, 11:33:17 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah no shit, since my cc info is fucking saved there. ugh.
1664[31/12/2014, 11:33:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'll ask around tomorrow when I'm at work.
1665[31/12/2014, 11:36:54 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550132971240292352?s=09
1666[31/12/2014, 11:37:14 AM] Peter Coffin: they are just so stupidly transparent
1667[31/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
1668[31/12/2014, 11:37:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
1669[31/12/2014, 11:37:33 AM] Peter Coffin: they were posting on my videos saying "you used to be funny"
1670[31/12/2014, 11:37:47 AM] Peter Coffin: now they go back and say "you used to be much better"
1671[31/12/2014, 11:38:02 AM] Peter Coffin: this is literally a non-comedy video about the friendzone FROM A FEMINIST PERSPECTIVE
1672[31/12/2014, 11:39:11 AM] Peter Coffin: like it used to be current videos, now they go back and act like they liked them from before
1673[31/12/2014, 11:40:31 AM] Peter Coffin: except the problem is they are doing it now, and were not subscrbed from me
1674[31/12/2014, 11:40:49 AM] Peter Coffin: and in most cases arent
1675[31/12/2014, 11:41:54 AM] Peter Coffin: still
1676[31/12/2014, 11:42:06 AM] Peter Coffin: I just don't get why it matters enough to even bother with
1677[31/12/2014, 11:42:25 AM] SF: That's great you got that station to fix the story Stephen.
1678[31/12/2014, 11:42:37 AM] SF: (Anything else of note since earlier?)
1679[31/12/2014, 11:42:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We're dealing with people who spend their whole day on the Internet, harassing and bothering people.
1680[31/12/2014, 11:42:56 AM] SF: Seems like people are trying to enact street justice against her parents. I'm worried innocents will be harmed
1681[31/12/2014, 11:45:57 AM] Peter Coffin: this should be fun https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550135405245255680?s=09
1682[31/12/2014, 11:47:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh boy. That's a good tweet. Looking forward to their replies
1683[31/12/2014, 11:48:41 AM] Tesseract: how is mcinjosh still tweeting
1684[31/12/2014, 11:48:43 AM] SF: No why did my father semicolon nine smiley
1685[31/12/2014, 11:48:46 AM] SF: Do not write that thing dad
1686[31/12/2014, 11:50:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ever try reporting someone for impersonation to twitter?
1687[31/12/2014, 11:50:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's like applying for a bank loan.
1688[31/12/2014, 11:50:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Only lets you report if you are the one they are impersonating
1689[31/12/2014, 11:50:58 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i used to report it under harassment
1690[31/12/2014, 11:51:02 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and explain in the text
1691[31/12/2014, 11:51:05 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but that doesn't work now
1692[31/12/2014, 11:51:23 AM] Tesseract: it worked for me just like an hour ago
1693[31/12/2014, 11:52:00 AM] Tesseract: Harassment>I am>Harassing Me
1694[31/12/2014, 11:52:06 AM] Tesseract: should work
1695[31/12/2014, 11:52:29 AM] Tesseract: unless you're still getting the box and they just aren't suspending anyone anymore
1696[31/12/2014, 12:27:29 PM] SF: Got that, thanks.
1697[31/12/2014, 12:28:13 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/Kotaku/status/550145164166320129 If anyone else pulls the "gamers have it hard too" BS during discussions of trans suicide just link them that.
1698[31/12/2014, 12:29:07 PM] Athena Hollow: hahah
1699[31/12/2014, 12:35:05 PM] Athena Hollow: lol my husband is an asshole. He posts this: https://twitter.com/jthm0138/status/550147434907992064
1700
1701And I say "look at you being all sweet and philosophical" 
1702
1703and then posted this: https://twitter.com/jthm0138/status/550147968796749824
1704[31/12/2014, 12:37:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hah, jthm
1705[31/12/2014, 12:38:06 PM] Athena Hollow: he's not sweet, he's 'dark and brooding' hhahahaha
1706[31/12/2014, 12:42:51 PM] Remy: wtf my Alakazam is missing
1707[31/12/2014, 12:43:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Yeah, sorry about that. We got into a fight and, you know, first thing round 1...
1708[31/12/2014, 12:43:39 PM] Remy: It's not in my PC or in my battle box and I never would have traded or released her
1709[31/12/2014, 12:43:50 PM] Remy: She's my Cleverness champion at the pokemon contest
1710[31/12/2014, 12:44:23 PM] Remy: I may need to start over x-x
1711[31/12/2014, 12:44:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Off saying hi to that one ditto everyone sets up?
1712[31/12/2014, 12:51:12 PM] David Gallant: One of the TechRaptor folks is defending another TechRaptor writer, Georgina, who posted links in KiA to a bunch of FemFreq's business registration & charity registration documents.
1713[31/12/2014, 12:51:26 PM] David Gallant: And I'm just so tempted to say "she's not going to sleep with you."
1714[31/12/2014, 12:51:30 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
1715[31/12/2014, 12:51:34 PM] Tesseract: hahaha
1716[31/12/2014, 12:51:39 PM] Athena Hollow: "FUCKIN WHITE KNIGHT"
1717[31/12/2014, 12:51:41 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahha
1718[31/12/2014, 12:51:43 PM] Tesseract: BETA MANGINA
1719[31/12/2014, 12:51:46 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahah
1720[31/12/2014, 12:52:45 PM] David Gallant: Of course I'm locked, and he won't even see it...
1721[31/12/2014, 12:52:47 PM] David Gallant: David Gallant shurgs
1722[31/12/2014, 12:56:04 PM] David Gallant: TechRaptor employs some FUCKING IDIOTS HOLY SHIT
1723[31/12/2014, 12:56:08 PM] SF: Link me I'll say it.
1724[31/12/2014, 12:56:19 PM] SF: I'm pretty much the alpha bitch of the universe.
1725[31/12/2014, 12:57:32 PM] Tesseract: authors don't need to be your audience. authors are dead
1726[31/12/2014, 12:59:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I hate stuff clearly created for creators
1727[31/12/2014, 1:10:29 PM] Quinnae: What's up at TechRaptor?
1728[31/12/2014, 1:10:36 PM] Quinnae: Are they being fools again?
1729[31/12/2014, 1:10:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): again? they haven't stopped
1730[31/12/2014, 1:12:25 PM] Tesseract: they're the biggest idiots
1731[31/12/2014, 1:15:43 PM] Quinnae: Well, they're really the Washington Post of the gaming world.
1732[31/12/2014, 1:18:30 PM] David Gallant: https://twitter.com/sschinke/status/550157986518564865
1733[31/12/2014, 1:18:48 PM] David Gallant: I've got the fucker muted now but Jesus Christ.
1734[31/12/2014, 1:19:06 PM] David Gallant: They're arguing about this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2nzd5k/feminist_frequency_is_a_registered_charity/
1735[31/12/2014, 1:19:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ugh. GG are the worst: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550159129956732928
1736[31/12/2014, 1:20:05 PM] David Gallant: Isn't that the very opportunism they accuse Brianna of when her dog was dying?
1737[31/12/2014, 1:20:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes
1738[31/12/2014, 1:20:53 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Also, sidenote, I learned you can have multiple selections in firefox by using the Ctrl key
1739[31/12/2014, 1:21:56 PM] Tesseract: whoa
1740[31/12/2014, 1:21:59 PM] Tesseract: this changes everything
1741[31/12/2014, 1:25:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's a bit tricky, because one misclick and you have to start over. but helps when screenshotting, so you don't have to draw boxes using something else :3
1742[31/12/2014, 1:27:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): WOW. This GGer is so dense.
1743[31/12/2014, 1:27:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/Linksaver_/status/550159704681611264
1744[31/12/2014, 1:27:14 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): TIL donating money absolves you of being a horrible person
1745[31/12/2014, 1:27:56 PM] David Gallant: What is GG trying to do?
1746[31/12/2014, 1:28:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Trying to donate to a charity that helps trans people to absolve them of being transphobic pieces of shits
1747[31/12/2014, 1:28:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Or some are planning it, like in my screenshot
1748[31/12/2014, 1:29:07 PM] David Gallant: Huh
1749[31/12/2014, 1:33:33 PM] Tesseract: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/888202-gamergate looooool
1750[31/12/2014, 1:34:05 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
1751[31/12/2014, 1:34:18 PM] Athena Hollow: Obviously we're up against top minds, here.
1752[31/12/2014, 1:34:56 PM] Athena Hollow: "I don’t really get These Anti GG’s anymore…
1753For all the interconnections and figure heads, they sure are unorganized."
1754HAHAHAHAHAHAH
1755[31/12/2014, 1:37:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
1756[31/12/2014, 1:37:57 PM] Quinnae: Hah.
1757[31/12/2014, 1:38:16 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): IDK, maybe because, uh, we're not an organized movement?
1758[31/12/2014, 1:38:18 PM] Athena Hollow: They still really think it's an overly organized effort and not just a bunch of random people that coalesced because of how fucking shitty they are.
1759[31/12/2014, 1:38:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
1760[31/12/2014, 1:38:34 PM] Quinnae: Speaking of GG shittiness...
1761[31/12/2014, 1:38:39 PM] Athena Hollow: The most 'organized' we get is "Report this asshole" lol
1762[31/12/2014, 1:38:57 PM] Quinnae: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ke6pasTCkdIJ:https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/113196.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
1763[31/12/2014, 1:39:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): well, there's us in here, but it's hardly a giant conspiracy
1764[31/12/2014, 1:39:08 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
1765[31/12/2014, 1:39:28 PM] Quinnae: "Specifically regarding katherine cross, she is directly tied to digra ofc as a chairwomen of it, and her other connections are fascinating."
1766
1767I really have to laugh. :P I present one paper and suddenly I'm a "chairwomen"?
1768[31/12/2014, 1:39:47 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, if they try to claim 26 people managed to bring down "THOUSANDS!!11!" of ggers, I wouldn't be surprised but really, it says more about their shitty organization skills than our overt ones LOL
1769[31/12/2014, 1:39:52 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAHAHAH
1770[31/12/2014, 1:39:54 PM] Athena Hollow: nice!
1771[31/12/2014, 1:40:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah.
1772[31/12/2014, 1:40:00 PM] Athena Hollow: Ranking up there, Kath. hahahahah
1773[31/12/2014, 1:40:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): BALLER
1774[31/12/2014, 1:40:16 PM] Quinnae: They're apparently doing some kind of conspiracy op around DiGRA which is a bit worrying.
1775[31/12/2014, 1:40:26 PM] Athena Hollow: they've been doing that for months
1776[31/12/2014, 1:40:31 PM] Athena Hollow: it's gotten... well, nowhere lol
1777[31/12/2014, 1:40:43 PM] Quinnae: A source copypasted this from one of the GG chat rooms:
1778[31/12/2014, 1:40:44 PM] Quinnae: 17:19 < maksev> okay so some news
177917:20 < maksev> part 2 of UBM dig will release today
178017:20 < maksev> Part 3 was gonna be just katherine cross but there will be some zoe quinn stuff too.
1781[31/12/2014, 1:41:23 PM] Quinnae: http://privatepaste.com/3c85a29b32 Their new thing is this nonsense with a firm called UBM that I've never heard of, a consultancy concern in the UK.
1782[31/12/2014, 1:41:53 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1783[31/12/2014, 1:42:05 PM] Athena Hollow: Red mspaint lines of doom
1784[31/12/2014, 1:42:24 PM] David Gallant: Joy.
1785[31/12/2014, 1:42:36 PM] David Gallant: Remember when Zoe Quinn wasn't a central target of GG?
1786[31/12/2014, 1:42:40 PM] David Gallant: Because I sure don't.
1787[31/12/2014, 1:42:43 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1788[31/12/2014, 1:43:32 PM] Quinnae: I admit I'm a touch worried.
1789[31/12/2014, 1:43:51 PM] Athena Hollow: don't be. seriously they are fuckin terrible at this shit.
1790[31/12/2014, 1:44:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: too many broken images for me to see what's up here
1791[31/12/2014, 1:44:04 PM] Athena Hollow: Remember the big "CHRISTMAS HARD DRIVE DUMP!" that never happened?
1792[31/12/2014, 1:44:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: all I'm really getting is someone trying to use "Greed" as a noun, which is making me snicker at a reference too nerdy for anyone to get
1793[31/12/2014, 1:44:54 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1794[31/12/2014, 1:45:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: whats UBM?
1795[31/12/2014, 1:45:39 PM] Athena Hollow: Always remember: Their PROFESSIONAL BASED LAWYER can't remember the word "EVER" lol
1796[31/12/2014, 1:45:58 PM] Athena Hollow: It's like 500 3 stooges re-enactments.
1797[31/12/2014, 1:48:48 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It was the best Christmas eliver.
1798[31/12/2014, 1:49:18 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1799[31/12/2014, 1:55:19 PM] Peter Coffin: derblu fevla
1800[31/12/2014, 1:55:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Now I'm really curious: http://ask.fm/VeerenderJubbal/answer/124209621190
1801[31/12/2014, 1:56:13 PM] Quinnae: Sarah: UBM is... I don't know what. A consulting firm in the UK?
1802[31/12/2014, 1:57:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts hugs katherine D:
1803[31/12/2014, 1:58:31 PM] Peter Coffin: katherine you know you just say the word and you have a bunch of folks here who will jump to help in any way we can.
1804[31/12/2014, 1:59:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, Veerender. https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/550169054736969728
1805[31/12/2014, 2:00:55 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/550169507788890112
1806[31/12/2014, 2:01:23 PM] Athena Hollow: lolol
1807[31/12/2014, 2:01:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Shit, now I want to know how to pronounce his name
1808[31/12/2014, 2:03:21 PM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550167055387742208?s=09
1809[31/12/2014, 2:03:21 PM] Remy: XD
1810[31/12/2014, 2:04:00 PM] Peter Coffin: they're still pissed off kim kardashian has made more games than rogue
1811[31/12/2014, 2:04:04 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
1812[31/12/2014, 2:04:07 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA
1813[31/12/2014, 2:04:11 PM] David Gallant: PFFFFFFT
1814[31/12/2014, 2:04:27 PM] David Gallant: That Kim Kardashian game was all right.
1815[31/12/2014, 2:05:49 PM] Peter Coffin: I just love pointing that out. I take it seriously as a game, I don't personally love it by any means but I do. I just LOVE that someone I flat out know they hate without them even having to say it has made more games than someone who's ran two kickstarters to swindle people with but claims to be a developer
1816[31/12/2014, 2:06:23 PM] Peter Coffin: and they love
1817[31/12/2014, 2:08:55 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOLOLOLOL: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550171530001276930
1818[31/12/2014, 2:10:53 PM] David Gallant: Folks, I'm gonna get booted from this room as I clear my Skype history: can someone invite me back in a few minutes?
1819[31/12/2014, 2:11:30 PM] Athena Hollow: will do.
1820[31/12/2014, 2:12:06 PM] Tesseract: is chris here
1821[31/12/2014, 2:12:09 PM] Tesseract: or can anyone contact
1822[31/12/2014, 2:14:11 PM] Ian Cheong: "Chu is not a fair guy: when Namco said they are against "threats and harassment" they are NOT saying they are against Gamergate. Their statement is almost the same of Blizzard. Chu is distorting the issue on purpose."
1823[31/12/2014, 2:14:17 PM] Ian Cheong: Chu? really?
1824[31/12/2014, 2:14:21 PM] Ian Cheong: the article has my name right fucking there
1825[31/12/2014, 2:14:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): O
1826[31/12/2014, 2:14:25 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): M
1827[31/12/2014, 2:14:26 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): G
1828[31/12/2014, 2:14:35 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.gamepolitics.com/2014/12/30/bandai-namco-clarifies-its-position-gamergate#.VKOS3oqUfjY
1829[31/12/2014, 2:14:39 PM] Ian Cheong: in the comment section
1830[31/12/2014, 2:14:58 PM] Athena Hollow: omfg dude
1831[31/12/2014, 2:15:00 PM] Athena Hollow: omfg lol
1832[31/12/2014, 2:15:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Yes, their statement is almost the same as Blizzard's. Both condemn your hateful little cult.
1833[31/12/2014, 2:15:49 PM] Ian Cheong: except they mention gamergate by name
1834[31/12/2014, 2:15:52 PM] Ian Cheong: which is a plus
1835[31/12/2014, 2:17:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550173803465031680
1836[31/12/2014, 2:20:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess, what do we need to tell Chris?
1837[31/12/2014, 2:20:56 PM] David Gallant: Thanks!
1838[31/12/2014, 2:21:14 PM] David Gallant: Can someone re-add me to Serious Chat too?
1839[31/12/2014, 2:21:32 PM] Tesseract: you're not removed, you just lose the link
1840[31/12/2014, 2:21:38 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): How do we know you're the real David?...
1841[31/12/2014, 2:21:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): jk
1842[31/12/2014, 2:21:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ;)
1843[31/12/2014, 2:21:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really do need to get my membership card to that place sometime
1844[31/12/2014, 2:22:39 PM] SF: David Chu
1845[31/12/2014, 2:23:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Peter Gallant
1846[31/12/2014, 2:23:04 PM] SF: This can be our uniform. Everyone's last name is Chu.
1847[31/12/2014, 2:23:09 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1848[31/12/2014, 2:23:16 PM] Peter Coffin: Pambo Chuffin
1849[31/12/2014, 2:23:26 PM] Tesseract: SJWChuminati
1850[31/12/2014, 2:23:37 PM] Peter Coffin: lol
1851[31/12/2014, 2:23:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): There you go, new display name for Twitter
1852[31/12/2014, 2:24:22 PM] Peter Coffin: Ian Miles Chu would really get their goat
1853[31/12/2014, 2:24:32 PM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
1854[31/12/2014, 2:25:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ian S Chu
1855[31/12/2014, 2:25:28 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No period on the S
1856[31/12/2014, 2:25:39 PM] Peter Coffin: Ian Effect
1857[31/12/2014, 2:25:52 PM] David Gallant: Izzy - you know me too well.
1858[31/12/2014, 2:26:03 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
1859[31/12/2014, 2:26:14 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena Frequency
1860[31/12/2014, 2:26:15 PM] Peter Coffin: izzy is super observant, that is your strength my friend
1861[31/12/2014, 2:26:39 PM] Peter Coffin: and that is one of the better strengths out there
1862[31/12/2014, 2:27:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): thanks!
1863[31/12/2014, 2:29:21 PM] Athena Hollow: ^_^
1864[31/12/2014, 2:41:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550179621720064001
1865[31/12/2014, 2:43:50 PM] Randi Harper: ack. offline for a day or two, and 6666 unread messages in this chat. THAT IS ONE SIX TOO MANY.
1866[31/12/2014, 2:43:59 PM] Tesseract: ha
1867[31/12/2014, 2:44:12 PM] Tesseract: I sent you two twitter reports btw
1868[31/12/2014, 2:44:17 PM] drinternetphd: sorry. they're raiding my family really hard right now and doxing people I went to high school with
1869[31/12/2014, 2:44:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ugh
1870[31/12/2014, 2:44:29 PM] drinternetphd: because they found a livejournal where I was boring and 15/16
1871[31/12/2014, 2:44:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: you knw
1872[31/12/2014, 2:45:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: at this point, the thing to do is put together a detailed report and send it to every member of congress.
1873[31/12/2014, 2:45:23 PM] Randi Harper: going through mentions - david, I didn't see it as game dev elitism. for me, it's a title thing. i'm unaware of any elitism issues surrounding this, so if I wandered into some kind of politicized thing, i'm sorry. didn't mean for it to come off that way. o_O
1874[31/12/2014, 2:46:21 PM] Randi Harper: also not sure how you think I insulted you. what did I say? o_O
1875[31/12/2014, 2:46:29 PM] Peter Coffin: I already forgot about that randi, honestly even if it was some elitism you can't tell me that is even close to what everyone is dealing with
1876[31/12/2014, 2:46:52 PM] Peter Coffin: I was confused by the whole thing in the end
1877[31/12/2014, 2:46:56 PM] Peter Coffin: gave up
1878[31/12/2014, 2:47:01 PM] Randi Harper: yeah, I really didn't mean to come off like that. I don't come from the game world. i'm still new to it. long time gamer, but new to the industry. i'm just used to dev meaning development.
1879[31/12/2014, 2:47:11 PM] Randi Harper: it's not elitism, it's a job description
1880[31/12/2014, 2:47:17 PM] Randi Harper: which is why I ALWAYS say i'm not a dev.
1881[31/12/2014, 2:47:35 PM] Randi Harper: I've done dev, but it's not what I do now.
1882[31/12/2014, 2:47:36 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm not a rapper
1883[31/12/2014, 2:47:49 PM] Randi Harper: I don't classify myself as being in game dev
1884[31/12/2014, 2:48:00 PM] Randi Harper: that entire conversation on twitter just confused the heck out of me, tbh.
1885[31/12/2014, 2:48:11 PM] Peter Coffin: I tried to decipher it
1886[31/12/2014, 2:48:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: except that one time when I was saying it was weird how GG was targeting you when you were neither a dev nor a journo
1887[31/12/2014, 2:48:27 PM] Randi Harper: it's really weird to me that people think that dev is some kind of elitist title.
1888[31/12/2014, 2:48:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Which is it Randi!? Pick a side!
1889[31/12/2014, 2:48:47 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1890[31/12/2014, 2:48:56 PM] drinternetphd: please report any archive.todays you see about me
1891[31/12/2014, 2:48:57 PM] Randi Harper: sgg: at that point, I was doing FOSS dev to shut them up. :) but I don't do dev for work.
1892[31/12/2014, 2:48:57 PM] Peter Coffin: well it's like... game development is very much art, it's very technical art but art
1893[31/12/2014, 2:48:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl adjusts that big ol' ceiling lamp
1894[31/12/2014, 2:49:02 PM] SF: https://twitter.com/Int_Aristocrap/status/550181457398734848
1895[31/12/2014, 2:49:07 PM] SF: Will do Zoe.
1896[31/12/2014, 2:49:13 PM] Peter Coffin: hear you zoe
1897[31/12/2014, 2:49:22 PM] Peter Coffin: if we can do anything else please let us know
1898[31/12/2014, 2:49:26 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: they also use archive.moe or somesuch don't they?
1899[31/12/2014, 2:49:41 PM] drinternetphd: that's for 4chan threads
1900[31/12/2014, 2:49:45 PM] Randi Harper: dev is not glamorous. especially outside of startups/indie. you're basically doing what other people tell you to do, for the most part.
1901[31/12/2014, 2:49:53 PM] Randi Harper: which is why i'm bewildered that anyone would look at it with elitism.
1902[31/12/2014, 2:49:58 PM] drinternetphd: god fucking damnit this means another shitty phone call to my dad
1903[31/12/2014, 2:50:02 PM] Randi Harper: it's like when people that are new to dev are like "IM GONNA BE A KERNEL DEV WHEN I GROW UP"
1904[31/12/2014, 2:50:06 PM] Randi Harper: and it's like... you poor thing.
1905[31/12/2014, 2:50:07 PM] drinternetphd: he just called me two days ago to tell me I need to come home for will stuff
1906[31/12/2014, 2:50:08 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry zoe
1907[31/12/2014, 2:50:10 PM] drinternetphd: so that rules
1908[31/12/2014, 2:50:26 PM] drinternetphd: one of the last conversations I have with my father might be about gamergate.
1909[31/12/2014, 2:50:35 PM] Randi Harper: ack. :(
1910[31/12/2014, 2:50:36 PM] Randi Harper: hugs zoe
1911[31/12/2014, 2:50:56 PM] Peter Coffin: just one shitpile after another and i'm sorry this is how this is going in your life because of these people
1912[31/12/2014, 2:51:10 PM] drinternetphd: really glad the first time i was hanging out with one of alex's family members too ended in me having to bail because a raid was happening
1913[31/12/2014, 2:51:14 PM] drinternetphd: so glad this is my life now
1914[31/12/2014, 2:51:37 PM] Randi Harper: i'm talking to some congressional aide next week. you pursuing that route at all?
1915[31/12/2014, 2:51:57 PM] drinternetphd: haven't had the time
1916[31/12/2014, 2:52:31 PM] Peter Coffin: is it to early to know if they got anything sensitive from you?
1917[31/12/2014, 2:52:58 PM] drinternetphd: just shit to embarass me about having been 17 once
1918[31/12/2014, 2:53:16 PM] drinternetphd: I am more freaked out that they're going after people I haven't talked to in over 10 years and digging into my family again
1919[31/12/2014, 2:53:30 PM] drinternetphd: including in-person stalking my hometown
1920[31/12/2014, 2:53:32 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, that's super weird
1921[31/12/2014, 2:53:55 PM] drinternetphd: it's one thing when it's my life
1922[31/12/2014, 2:54:04 PM] drinternetphd: but when I'm the vector for totally unrelated people being harassed?
1923[31/12/2014, 2:54:09 PM] Peter Coffin: during my thing the attackers went after my ex and she and her now-husband got into contact with me about whether or not I made up a fake girlfriend
1924[31/12/2014, 2:54:10 PM] drinternetphd: when they're bringing up my shitty abusive childhood?
1925[31/12/2014, 2:54:48 PM] drinternetphd: like shit my friend said about shit:
1926[31/12/2014, 2:54:49 PM] drinternetphd: >http://tigerpoetess.livejournal.com/?skip=160
1927
1928>I've been worried about Chelsea again too. She seems unhappy. I love her though and I wish she could find a way to be happy and do something she loves that will take her places in the world. She's definately got the spirit, she just needs the support and help of her friends. She will likely be all of a poet, singer, musician, writer, politician, philosopher, and artist in her adulthood. She's all that now, but I think she'll be recognized soon enough.
1929
1930kek
1931[31/12/2014, 2:54:52 PM] Peter Coffin: it's majorly embarrassing, I'm sorry this is a new level of shit to deal with
1932[31/12/2014, 2:55:06 PM] drinternetphd: they're literally laughing at the fucked up shit I barely lived through when I was that age now
1933[31/12/2014, 2:55:15 PM] drinternetphd: and hurting the people that kept me alive
1934[31/12/2014, 2:55:19 PM] SF: It just goes to show it's not even you personally that they hate. They just hate.
1935[31/12/2014, 2:55:20 PM] drinternetphd: that have nothing to do with me anymore
1936[31/12/2014, 2:55:29 PM] drinternetphd: I don't care what the reasons are
1937[31/12/2014, 2:55:43 PM] Peter Coffin: they hate zoe quinn the symbol
1938[31/12/2014, 2:55:46 PM] drinternetphd: the girl they linked just now is a fucking otherkin
1939[31/12/2014, 2:55:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am scared for her
1940[31/12/2014, 2:55:55 PM] drinternetphd: or at least she was back at that age
1941[31/12/2014, 2:55:56 PM] Peter Coffin: oh fuck
1942[31/12/2014, 2:56:13 PM] Peter Coffin: eeeeeehhhhh that could become a problem if they pursue it
1943[31/12/2014, 2:56:29 PM] Peter Coffin: do you have a way to contact them?
1944[31/12/2014, 2:56:34 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
1945[31/12/2014, 2:56:40 PM] Peter Coffin: wow that sounds so weird
1946[31/12/2014, 2:56:51 PM] Peter Coffin: contact the person you haven't talked to for years to warn them about gamers
1947[31/12/2014, 2:57:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I hate when that flood of awareness comes in like "you should do this! wait, that involves the real world"
1948[31/12/2014, 2:57:27 PM] Peter Coffin: not gameland
1949[31/12/2014, 2:57:33 PM] Peter Coffin: or gateland?
1950[31/12/2014, 2:57:43 PM] Peter Coffin: whatever gg's world is
1951[31/12/2014, 2:58:12 PM] drinternetphd: ffffff
1952[31/12/2014, 2:58:38 PM] drinternetphd: one of the people they're digging into is someone I "dated" when I was 15 and he was like 30
1953[31/12/2014, 2:58:46 PM] drinternetphd: who has a criminal record and used to be a heroin user
1954[31/12/2014, 2:58:50 PM] drinternetphd: I am sure this will go SO FUCKING WELL for me
1955[31/12/2014, 2:58:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
1956[31/12/2014, 2:59:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: So they're on a recruitment drive then.
1957[31/12/2014, 2:59:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm just going to say that sounds like you would by default be the victim in that situation
1958[31/12/2014, 2:59:24 PM] drinternetphd: I am SO FUCKING GLAD that fucking "gamers" are dredging out the shit that I have been trying to heal from and move on from for my entire fucking life
1959[31/12/2014, 2:59:52 PM] drinternetphd: yeah welcome to my fucking origin. a lot of really horrible shit happened to me that I have worked so hard to move on from
1960[31/12/2014, 3:00:10 PM] drinternetphd: and now that's being fucking taken away from me
1961[31/12/2014, 3:00:14 PM] Peter Coffin: i'm sorry
1962[31/12/2014, 3:00:17 PM] drinternetphd: I spent YEARS fighting for that peace of mind
1963[31/12/2014, 3:00:24 PM] drinternetphd: basically crawled out of fucking hell
1964[31/12/2014, 3:01:38 PM] Peter Coffin: god I hate these fucking people.
1965[31/12/2014, 3:01:40 PM] SF: I really wish I had anything helpful to say. It's just exactly as horrible as it looks and there's nothing else to it.
1966[31/12/2014, 3:01:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I can sympathize a little here. I had a rather traumatic trip down memory lane the last time I was in the same room as my father but... yeah, there really are no words here.
1967[31/12/2014, 3:02:29 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I am desperately trying to think of ways to try to ease what kind of stress this has to be causing but I am not great at that
1968[31/12/2014, 3:02:38 PM] SF: I'm almost out of anger. It's just this numb feeling of static and heat.
1969[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Usual offers still apply though, anything you need in any capacity, just ask.
1970[31/12/2014, 3:02:54 PM] SF: These people grew up in the first world and this is what they spend their lives doing. It's unbelievable.
1971[31/12/2014, 3:03:20 PM] Peter Coffin: second that ssg
1972[31/12/2014, 3:03:32 PM] drinternetphd: "I went through them all and ctrl+f'd 'chelsea' and that was the only interestign one. Same girl also said she got chelsea hooked on orson scott card.
1973
1974The last link has so many entries that I got bored with LJ's shitty setup. Can't be bothered to go through all his posts, but he is constantly whining about women.
1975
1976It was fun but I don't think there is much else here other than building more of her character profile."
1977[31/12/2014, 3:03:34 PM] Peter Coffin: I know
1978[31/12/2014, 3:03:35 PM] drinternetphd: "it was fun".
1979[31/12/2014, 3:03:50 PM] drinternetphd: why don't they fucking drive to my dad's house and break the lock off my diary while they're at it
1980[31/12/2014, 3:04:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: remember when it was cool to read OSC books? And they were all about understanding and not judging people?
1981[31/12/2014, 3:04:28 PM] Peter Coffin: you know, I know this is wrong, but there needs to be a reverse hatred
1982[31/12/2014, 3:04:40 PM] Peter Coffin: this is just unexcusable
1983[31/12/2014, 3:04:48 PM] Peter Coffin: these are unredeemable human beings
1984[31/12/2014, 3:04:50 PM] SF: The problem is the opposite of hatred isn't differently aimed hatred.
1985[31/12/2014, 3:05:12 PM] SF: They don't like violence because it implies X group's dominance over Y, they like it because it's violent.
1986[31/12/2014, 3:05:18 PM] SF: They're agents of chaos.
1987[31/12/2014, 3:05:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
1988[31/12/2014, 3:05:41 PM] Athena Hollow: they're fucking children who need their goddamn smart phones taken away.
1989[31/12/2014, 3:05:44 PM] Peter Coffin: I said I know it's wrong, that's why. I'm morally against what I am saying right now. It's just so shitty what these people are doing to someone who literally is basically just defending herself at this point
1990[31/12/2014, 3:06:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: what do you mean "at this point?"
1991[31/12/2014, 3:06:26 PM] SF: Oh I'm not even saying it's morally wrong. I'd feel in the moral right knocking any of their teeth in in real life.
1992[31/12/2014, 3:06:32 PM] SF: But it helps their ultimate goal is the problem.
1993[31/12/2014, 3:06:41 PM] Tesseract: is randi still here
1994[31/12/2014, 3:07:03 PM] Peter Coffin: what proactive things does zoe do to harm them? like legitimately harm gg without an impetus
1995[31/12/2014, 3:07:07 PM] Peter Coffin: that is what I mean
1996[31/12/2014, 3:07:08 PM] drinternetphd: if I leave my number can someone monitor my shit
1997[31/12/2014, 3:07:15 PM] drinternetphd: because they're dissecting how I look naked now
1998[31/12/2014, 3:07:17 PM] drinternetphd: and I just
1999[31/12/2014, 3:07:28 PM] drinternetphd: I don't wanna exist anymore
2000[31/12/2014, 3:07:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Please don't talk like that.
2001[31/12/2014, 3:08:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :( So sorry this is happening.
2002[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] drinternetphd: I'm sorry. I am just really, really tired.
2003[31/12/2014, 3:08:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: And, more to the point, don't think like that.
2004[31/12/2014, 3:08:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I am speechless, very upset for you zoe.
2005[31/12/2014, 3:08:25 PM] drinternetphd: and this isn't going to end
2006[31/12/2014, 3:08:33 PM] drinternetphd: they're going to keep hurting everyone I ever loved
2007[31/12/2014, 3:08:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yes it will
2008[31/12/2014, 3:08:45 PM] drinternetphd: it's been five months
2009[31/12/2014, 3:08:52 PM] drinternetphd: it didn't end for kathy sierra and she vanished
2010[31/12/2014, 3:08:57 PM] drinternetphd: it hasn't even slowed down for anita
2011[31/12/2014, 3:09:11 PM] drinternetphd: they are always going to be hunting me
2012[31/12/2014, 3:09:22 PM] drinternetphd: most days I can deal with that
2013[31/12/2014, 3:09:25 PM] drinternetphd: today isn't one.
2014[31/12/2014, 3:09:37 PM] drinternetphd: I haven't figured out how to cope with them hurting my family
2015[31/12/2014, 3:09:39 PM] SF: Don't deal with it today. Leave it to us.
2016[31/12/2014, 3:10:15 PM] Peter Coffin: you absolutely don't deserve this, this is so wrong
2017[31/12/2014, 3:10:37 PM] SF: Just remember this isn't your fault. You know it isn't but I wanted to assert it out loud. What they do to anyone near you is absolutely no reflection on you or your worth.
2018[31/12/2014, 3:10:51 PM] SF: It's just terrorism and terrorism wouldn't exist if it wasn't good at its job.
2019[31/12/2014, 3:11:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: All I have to say is
2020[31/12/2014, 3:11:22 PM] Peter Coffin: agreed, this has nothing to do with you. the you they have invented is just that, an invention. you are you, and you know you. dont let them distort that
2021[31/12/2014, 3:11:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: The public image of these people is so absolutely deplorable I can't see them ever recruiting anyone new.
2022[31/12/2014, 3:11:49 PM] drinternetphd: that's cold comfort
2023[31/12/2014, 3:11:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Some of them are going to be arrested.
2024[31/12/2014, 3:12:02 PM] drinternetphd: doubt it.
2025[31/12/2014, 3:12:24 PM] drinternetphd: this is just my life now
2026[31/12/2014, 3:12:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Youtube video guy probably is. Randi's office visitor probably is.
2027[31/12/2014, 3:12:50 PM] Peter Coffin: youtube video guy?
2028[31/12/2014, 3:12:54 PM] Peter Coffin: OH
2029[31/12/2014, 3:12:57 PM] Randi Harper: Tesseract: i'm here
2030[31/12/2014, 3:13:06 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry, I keep forgetting that a person did that
2031[31/12/2014, 3:13:08 PM] drinternetphd: I will believe it when a judge doesn't just say the internet doesn't matter
2032[31/12/2014, 3:13:25 PM] Athena Hollow: The fucking fact that you couldn't do this shit in person, or by a goddamn handwritten letter, or phone call... but you can do it online is such fucking crap.
2033[31/12/2014, 3:13:31 PM] Peter Coffin: these people do things I forget a person is on the other end of they are so shitty
2034[31/12/2014, 3:13:34 PM] SF: You've saved lives. Remember that. You've done more good on Earth than most people ever do.
2035[31/12/2014, 3:13:37 PM] Randi Harper: Skype is never a good way to find me, fwiw. and I get grumpy if people Skype at me directly unless it's for WoW arenas or an emergency. :P
2036[31/12/2014, 3:13:38 PM] Tesseract: two things, first since you're a major target I'm going to need you to turn off skype history
2037[31/12/2014, 3:13:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I really have to assume there's SOME formal federal investigation into 8chan, GG related or not, so, odds are good Brennan is
2038[31/12/2014, 3:13:48 PM] Randi Harper: er.
2039[31/12/2014, 3:14:01 PM] Randi Harper: sorry I can't do that. I can leave the chat if that's a problem.
2040[31/12/2014, 3:14:09 PM] Tesseract: damn
2041[31/12/2014, 3:14:15 PM] Randi Harper: if someone breaks into my Skype, they've got bigger worries than gamergate.
2042[31/12/2014, 3:14:28 PM] Tesseract: I guess just make sure you have a shitload of security which you probably already do
2043[31/12/2014, 3:14:33 PM] Peter Coffin: its true zoe, you have truly made a huge difference. likely very small consolation because of the cost it's come with, but you have done more in your life for others than I have.
2044[31/12/2014, 3:14:46 PM] Tesseract: second did you get those two reports I sent you
2045[31/12/2014, 3:14:47 PM] Peter Coffin: and I think others like me would say the same
2046[31/12/2014, 3:14:52 PM] Randi Harper: yes, I wasn't sure who they were from.
2047[31/12/2014, 3:14:56 PM] Randi Harper: I can't really do anything this week.
2048[31/12/2014, 3:15:02 PM] Randi Harper: i did want to make something clear in here, though.
2049[31/12/2014, 3:15:04 PM] Tesseract: alright
2050[31/12/2014, 3:15:17 PM] Randi Harper: while i have contacts at twitter, i feel uncomfortable leaning on them for anything other than an emergency situation.
2051[31/12/2014, 3:15:33 PM] Randi Harper: for example, i'm shooting them an email because one of my friends recently got threatened with swatting if he didn't give up his twitter account name.
2052[31/12/2014, 3:15:46 PM] Randi Harper: i'm contacting them about that because the IP logs are important, and they are deleted quickly.
2053[31/12/2014, 3:15:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I do think, once things properly break apart here, the new normal established will be at least a LITTLE better than the years of proto-GG picking a new target to torment on a monthly basis.
2054[31/12/2014, 3:16:10 PM] Randi Harper: so if it's like direct threats, excessive douchebaggery that is going unchecked, i can work to escalate those.
2055[31/12/2014, 3:16:17 PM] Randi Harper: but my contacts are only valuable if only use them sometimes.
2056[31/12/2014, 3:16:23 PM] Randi Harper: otherwise i become static. background noise in their inbox.
2057[31/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Tesseract: welp
2058[31/12/2014, 3:16:25 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Okay guys, I'm taking Zoe out for some comfort ramen because we havent eaten in 12 hours and I highly suspect that's contributing to the mindset.
2059[31/12/2014, 3:16:44 PM] Athena Hollow: Absolutely good idea.
2060[31/12/2014, 3:16:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, food beats sad pretty often
2061[31/12/2014, 3:16:53 PM] Remy: Yeah GEt some food and rest please
2062[31/12/2014, 3:16:56 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I am recommending everyone use /showplaces to make sure they are only signed on from approved devices.
2063[31/12/2014, 3:17:02 PM] Randi Harper: ramen is comfort food. <3
2064[31/12/2014, 3:17:13 PM] Athena Hollow: done.
2065[31/12/2014, 3:17:14 PM] Peter Coffin: do something good, just do something good. I am worried about you both alex and zoe
2066[31/12/2014, 3:17:15 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Will also ask if someone can re-create the room and re-invite everyone to flush the logs while we're out.
2067[31/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Randi Harper: suggestion.
2068[31/12/2014, 3:17:30 PM] Tesseract: can you ask them the best way to report overlapping use accounts or something
2069[31/12/2014, 3:17:31 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Just to be safe.
2070[31/12/2014, 3:17:33 PM] Tesseract: I can do that
2071[31/12/2014, 3:17:34 PM] Randi Harper: why don't we just switch to google chat?
2072[31/12/2014, 3:17:37 PM] Randi Harper: you can take a specific chat off the recordc
2073[31/12/2014, 3:17:41 PM] Randi Harper: and it's MUCH BETTER THAN SKYPE.
2074[31/12/2014, 3:17:44 PM] Randi Harper: for big group conversations.
2075[31/12/2014, 3:17:49 PM] Tesseract: we'll have to check that out
2076[31/12/2014, 3:17:53 PM] Peter Coffin: id be not upset with that
2077[31/12/2014, 3:17:55 PM] Tesseract: because skype is very bad
2078[31/12/2014, 3:18:01 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Randi: Might be a good idea.
2079
2080Can someone check that out and, if so, coordinate it?
2081[31/12/2014, 3:18:04 PM] Peter Coffin: I looooooooove google chat
2082[31/12/2014, 3:18:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. We've grown too big for Skype
2083[31/12/2014, 3:18:13 PM] Tesseract: and also I use it for other reasons and I'd like to not be constantly alerted to skype shit
2084[31/12/2014, 3:18:15 PM] Randi Harper: Skype is horrible. it is not meant for extended conversations like this. it crashes on multiple devices of mine because they aren't always online.
2085[31/12/2014, 3:18:28 PM] Tesseract: skype is the fucking worst for this shit
2086[31/12/2014, 3:18:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yup
2087[31/12/2014, 3:18:38 PM] Randi Harper: google chat would work. or i could set up a private IP restricted SSL encrypted IRC server if you want to go even more secure.
2088[31/12/2014, 3:18:39 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, I agree
2089[31/12/2014, 3:19:15 PM] Randi Harper: i'm happy to set that up and show people clients to use for how to use such a thing.
2090[31/12/2014, 3:19:23 PM] Randi Harper: it would be nice to untie things from personal accounts.
2091[31/12/2014, 3:19:25 PM] Tesseract: either works
2092[31/12/2014, 3:19:26 PM] Peter Coffin: I'd be happiest with google chat, just because whenever I use irc on mobile devices it basically turns into nothing because I don't get any sort of reminders there's activity
2093[31/12/2014, 3:19:29 PM] Tesseract: unlike skype which does not work
2094[31/12/2014, 3:19:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: IRC is Less Than Great if you're trying not to reveal locations though.
2095[31/12/2014, 3:19:33 PM] SF: I was avoiding Gchat because of Google's shitty name policies making me feel awful every time I have to look at a name I share with family members but I'll bite the bullet for this.
2096[31/12/2014, 3:19:56 PM] Athena Hollow: sf: I should be able to set you up with an account on one of my domains to avoid that.
2097[31/12/2014, 3:19:58 PM] Randi Harper: sigh
2098[31/12/2014, 3:20:01 PM] Randi Harper: i have a question
2099[31/12/2014, 3:20:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes?
2100[31/12/2014, 3:20:08 PM] Randi Harper: will someone here call a dude and be like STOP CALLING MY GIRLFRIEND
2101[31/12/2014, 3:20:15 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahahahha
2102[31/12/2014, 3:20:18 PM] Randi Harper: because this creepster has called me multiple times and i don't freaking know him
2103[31/12/2014, 3:20:28 PM] Randi Harper: he called me at 12 AM before, and he just called again.
2104[31/12/2014, 3:20:36 PM] Peter Coffin: I would but my wife would be extremely unhappy with me
2105[31/12/2014, 3:20:52 PM] Randi Harper: SGG: IRC can use masked IPs
2106[31/12/2014, 3:20:56 PM] Randi Harper: SGG: it would also be a private server.
2107[31/12/2014, 3:21:03 PM] Randi Harper: I would run it on GGAB's infrastructure.
2108[31/12/2014, 3:21:05 PM] SF: Good point I could use an alt.
2109[31/12/2014, 3:21:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: keen
2110[31/12/2014, 3:21:14 PM] Randi Harper: i could limit it to specific IP addresses for each of us.
2111[31/12/2014, 3:21:23 PM] Tesseract: randi is obviously good at this so let's do that
2112[31/12/2014, 3:21:24 PM] SF: IRC sounds sensible.
2113[31/12/2014, 3:21:45 PM] SF: Can we 2FA that though?
2114[31/12/2014, 3:21:46 PM] Peter Coffin: I roam a lot, I have at least three ips and I do not know if any are dynamic
2115[31/12/2014, 3:21:51 PM] Randi Harper: that does mean that I need to know IPs. but i can promise not to do anything with that information at all. it won't be saved outside of GODDAMNIT HE IS CALLING AGAIN
2116[31/12/2014, 3:21:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: masked IPs set server side or have I just been living in the dark there?
2117[31/12/2014, 3:22:14 PM] Randi Harper: IRC doesn't have to 2FA.
2118[31/12/2014, 3:22:26 PM] Randi Harper: no one will be able to even access the port unless they are coming from your home address.
2119[31/12/2014, 3:22:36 PM] SF: Ahh right.
2120[31/12/2014, 3:22:40 PM] Randi Harper: they would have to have access to your internet connection in order to connect.
2121[31/12/2014, 3:22:47 PM] Peter Coffin: I use this from both of my jobs and my home address
2122[31/12/2014, 3:22:56 PM] Randi Harper: what i might be able to do to anonymize this is create a script that sits on my webserver that adds a security group rule anonymously.
2123[31/12/2014, 3:22:56 PM] SF: Wait but could we not connect from outside our home networks then?
2124[31/12/2014, 3:23:04 PM] SF: I'm in cafes on the laptop more than half the time.
2125[31/12/2014, 3:23:07 PM] Randi Harper: if i create that script, you'll be able to add a rule.
2126[31/12/2014, 3:23:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: my IP does tend to float around a bit
2127[31/12/2014, 3:23:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We could try Google Chat first and then if that is not enough, IRC
2128[31/12/2014, 3:23:39 PM] Athena Hollow: IRC sounds like it'd be good, but yeah, with lots of floating I think it'll just end up being a big ol bogged down mess in the end.
2129[31/12/2014, 3:23:44 PM] Athena Hollow: could set it up for the super secure shit though
2130[31/12/2014, 3:23:57 PM] Randi Harper: basically you'd just go to something like https://randi.io/SUPERSECRET, put in some kind of passphrase that we agree upon (or maybe an individual one per person? i like that idea better), and it'll automatically add your IP to the security group.
2131[31/12/2014, 3:23:58 PM] Athena Hollow: and use the google chat for our social chat essentially
2132[31/12/2014, 3:24:00 PM] Randi Harper: this would be trivial for me to set up.
2133[31/12/2014, 3:24:09 PM] Tesseract: what's floating
2134[31/12/2014, 3:24:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: aha, that's a way to go
2135[31/12/2014, 3:24:28 PM] Athena Hollow: by floating I mean people having various IPs due to not always being at home on their computer.
2136[31/12/2014, 3:24:35 PM] Tesseract: ah
2137[31/12/2014, 3:25:11 PM] Peter Coffin: I'd be good as long as there was some way for me to get in from anywhere with relatively few steps, I do agree with google for social though
2138[31/12/2014, 3:25:48 PM] Quinnae: I also agree.
2139[31/12/2014, 3:25:52 PM] Randi Harper: my only problem with google is that it is tied to a google account.
2140[31/12/2014, 3:25:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
2141[31/12/2014, 3:26:16 PM] Randi Harper: and people are notorious for having their google accounts hacked. plus there's the whole real name issue.
2142[31/12/2014, 3:26:28 PM] SF: Oh of course I could use my corporate account.
2143[31/12/2014, 3:26:33 PM] Randi Harper: and i don't know about you, but i'm not logging into 3 separate google accounts. (i already log into 1 for work, 1 for home)
2144[31/12/2014, 3:26:33 PM] Chris Kluwe: deletin the records
2145[31/12/2014, 3:26:36 PM] Tesseract: thanks
2146[31/12/2014, 3:27:13 PM] Randi Harper: okay i am going to get grandpa to call this guy and yell at the creep
2147[31/12/2014, 3:27:19 PM] Randi Harper: if he ever gets home from his girlfriend ffs
2148[31/12/2014, 3:27:24 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, mine are clear to now
2149[31/12/2014, 3:27:25 PM] Randi Harper: dude is still calling
2150[31/12/2014, 3:27:26 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah Chris- Did you do the standard "Hey police? GG's talking about SWATing me, so, heads up?" call?
2151[31/12/2014, 3:27:27 PM] Peter Coffin: I need to sleep, whatever you guys put together I'll be there. Just have to arrange habits around it, I am one of those weirdos
2152[31/12/2014, 3:27:35 PM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
2153[31/12/2014, 3:27:40 PM] Chris Kluwe: they thought i lived at Mumford and Sons
2154[31/12/2014, 3:27:44 PM] Randi Harper: is that a weird call to make? how did they take it?
2155[31/12/2014, 3:27:54 PM] Chris Kluwe: receptionist was pleasant, i had to explain it to her though
2156[31/12/2014, 3:28:00 PM] Chris Kluwe: she put an alert in
2157[31/12/2014, 3:28:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: so if my address pops up they'll call my cell
2158[31/12/2014, 3:28:18 PM] Randi Harper: hm. okay. I've been considering it, just in case. i'm sort of sick of having to wear pants around. thanks gamergate.
2159[31/12/2014, 3:28:23 PM] Chris Kluwe: i'm more worried about my brother than anything, because if they do anything on the first, i wont even be there
2160[31/12/2014, 3:28:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2161[31/12/2014, 3:28:29 PM] Chris Kluwe: it's pretty easy
2162[31/12/2014, 3:29:07 PM] Chris Kluwe: just call them up and say "Hey, there's this group on the internet, they like to reveal people's personal information and then try to call down a Swat team on them, i've seen them reveal mine, just want to give you all a heads up"
2163[31/12/2014, 3:29:28 PM] Remy: This whole conversation is too surreal. Also I can adapt to google hangouts or IRC. So I have no preference.
2164[31/12/2014, 3:29:46 PM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i'm back upstairs, enjoy your night all
2165[31/12/2014, 3:29:50 PM] Randi Harper: if people tell me they want to do the IRC thing, i will go ahead and set that up. but i want to make sure that's what everyone wants vs google.
2166[31/12/2014, 3:29:50 PM] Remy: Randi I'm not sure I think I can call your harasser without resolving to death threats I'm an impatient person
2167[31/12/2014, 3:29:52 PM] Randi Harper: so take a vote or something.
2168[31/12/2014, 3:29:53 PM] Athena Hollow: night chris
2169[31/12/2014, 3:30:12 PM] Randi Harper: for my money, it's a lot more secure. TONS.
2170[31/12/2014, 3:30:16 PM] Tesseract: someone run through the pros and cons of each
2171[31/12/2014, 3:30:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'd vastly prefer the IRC thing
2172[31/12/2014, 3:30:24 PM] Randi Harper: so if that's the issue, it's a good idea. but it does involve a 3rd party program, so it's slightly more of a hassle, depending.
2173[31/12/2014, 3:30:46 PM] Randi Harper: i also have a legitimate SSL cert, so that makes life easier.
2174[31/12/2014, 3:30:50 PM] Randi Harper: not even self-signed.
2175[31/12/2014, 3:30:54 PM] Randi Harper: yay donations.
2176[31/12/2014, 3:31:46 PM] SF: I'm fine with IRC if you're confident the IP filter won't be a huge hassle or a security breach.
2177[31/12/2014, 3:32:10 PM] SF: I have as many as a couple dozen public networks I might be using.
2178[31/12/2014, 3:32:24 PM] Randi Harper: i'm pretty good at those things. it'll take me a night or so to look up how to use the API to add SG rules on AWS, but i'm pretty sure it's possible.
2179[31/12/2014, 3:32:30 PM] Remy: I have no idea what any of that meant
2180[31/12/2014, 3:32:33 PM] Randi Harper: if all else fails, it would still be encrypted, it would still use passwords for each person.
2181[31/12/2014, 3:32:54 PM] Randi Harper: um. a programmatic way to add holes in the firewall so a user can connect.
2182[31/12/2014, 3:34:25 PM] Randi Harper: normally when someone tries to connect to my server, there's like this invisible force field that keeps them out. everything is blocked, except for what i explicitly state can go through. i can tell it explicitly to let you connect from your home.
2183[31/12/2014, 3:34:32 PM] Randi Harper: i just need to make that automated so you can tell it yourself. :)
2184[31/12/2014, 3:34:52 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Also highly suggest anyone who can afford them pick up a YubiKey. We just ordered a few. I can help subsidize if people can't afford one. Warlord money and all.
2185[31/12/2014, 3:35:09 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, keep me updated regarding new room plans. Ramen time.
2186[31/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] SF: Just got mine. Setting it up soon.
2187[31/12/2014, 3:35:24 PM] Tesseract: a what
2188[31/12/2014, 3:35:34 PM] SF: http://yubico.com/
2189[31/12/2014, 3:35:39 PM] SF: Or similar.
2190[31/12/2014, 3:35:50 PM] Randi Harper: isn't that just a RSA keyfob?
2191[31/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Randi Harper: you can get software versions of those for your phone for free. :P
2192[31/12/2014, 3:36:12 PM] Randi Harper: ... if i ever lose my phone, i am completely fucked.
2193[31/12/2014, 3:36:13 PM] Tesseract: also I'm not entirely clear on the pros/cons re: google/irc
2194[31/12/2014, 3:36:18 PM] SF: Yeah that's the problem
2195[31/12/2014, 3:36:20 PM] Tesseract: spell it out for me in 5 year old terms
2196[31/12/2014, 3:36:38 PM] Randi Harper: i'm rather curious what happens when i get a new iPhone. i use duo authenticator. what happens when i install it on the new iPhone?
2197[31/12/2014, 3:36:44 PM] Randi Harper: do i have to disable 2FA on everything and then set it all back up again?
2198[31/12/2014, 3:37:08 PM] Remy: This is the first I've heard of the yubikey
2199[31/12/2014, 3:39:29 PM] SF: Okay so pros of Google (anyone feel free to chime in)
2200[31/12/2014, 3:39:43 PM] SF: - Familiar
2201- Good with large convos
2202[31/12/2014, 3:39:52 PM] SF: - No setup
2203[31/12/2014, 3:39:53 PM] Remy: I don't get how I would physically use that ubikey with my phone though :/
2204[31/12/2014, 3:40:03 PM] Ian Cheong: I vote for Google Hangouts
2205[31/12/2014, 3:40:09 PM] SF: Stephen: If you get the Neo and your phone has NFC you can tap it.
2206[31/12/2014, 3:40:41 PM] Remy: I think it's the later iPhones that have NFC
2207[31/12/2014, 3:40:49 PM] Remy: Isn't that when they started rolling out with Apple Pay?
2208[31/12/2014, 3:40:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Google has 2FA.
2209[31/12/2014, 3:41:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: phones don't have USB ports lately?
2210[31/12/2014, 3:41:20 PM] Remy: no iPhones that would be too convenient
2211[31/12/2014, 3:41:22 PM] Ian Cheong: Depends on the phone. Iphones don't.
2212[31/12/2014, 3:41:24 PM] SF: You could get a converter too.
2213[31/12/2014, 3:41:38 PM] SF: The dongle is just a USB keyboard as far as the phone can tell.
2214[31/12/2014, 3:41:57 PM] SF: Cons of Google:
2215
2216- Big hacking target
2217- Real name policy
2218- Lots of us are already juggling multiple accounts
2219[31/12/2014, 3:41:59 PM] Remy: I feel like I could just kill myself and then nobody would ever learn my passwords :/
2220[31/12/2014, 3:42:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A- they totally would.
2221[31/12/2014, 3:42:59 PM] Remy: I need to just move away and become a hermit monk
2222[31/12/2014, 3:43:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: B- Too much real dealing with suicidal people on my end to be cool with hearing such things lately.
2223[31/12/2014, 3:43:34 PM] Remy: sorry
2224[31/12/2014, 3:43:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: C- Pretty sure you don't need some external deal to set up 2FA if you use a phone for everything in the first place
2225[31/12/2014, 3:44:18 PM] Remy: Did you know according to a recent study that a veteran leaving a mental health appointment is statistically more likely to take their own life than one who doesn't?
2226[31/12/2014, 3:44:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: one who doesn't what? Get into therapy at all?
2227[31/12/2014, 3:44:50 PM] Remy: Yup
2228[31/12/2014, 3:44:55 PM] Remy: Even the doctors are killing us
2229[31/12/2014, 3:44:57 PM] SF: Pros of IRC:
2230
2231- Most secure option
2232- Variety of excellent clients available
2233- Familiar to some of us
2234- Dumber blackhats won't be looking for it like Google accounts
2235- 2FA unnecessary with Randi's setup
2236[31/12/2014, 3:45:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: odd
2237[31/12/2014, 3:45:38 PM] SF: Cons of IRC:
2238
2239- Pain to set up IPs
2240- Less familiar to some of us
2241[31/12/2014, 3:45:49 PM] SF: Did I miss anything on any of those 4 lists?
2242[31/12/2014, 3:45:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sure that's not some statistical fluke where weird hangups mean only the people really dealing with serious PTSD type stuff bother going?
2243[31/12/2014, 3:45:52 PM] Tesseract: well that's pretty strongly in favor of IRC
2244[31/12/2014, 3:46:27 PM] Tesseract: who gives a shit about it being hard to set up, if anyone's not willing to even set up an IRC client then idk what they're doing in this room
2245[31/12/2014, 3:46:46 PM] Ian Cheong: let's set up an IRC then
2246[31/12/2014, 3:46:49 PM] SF: I would agree haha.
2247[31/12/2014, 3:47:15 PM] Remy: SGG:  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ before that they were keeping the bulk of veterans at the VA on a secret waiting list to hide the fact that they weren't being treated as fast as required by law. Soldiers died waiting on secret waiting lists. I'm done trying to hash out whether it's malice or stupidity. I'm just done.
2248[31/12/2014, 3:47:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well in my case, worst case scenario if I forget to switch accounts with Google, oh hey there's my real name I'm so paranoid about leaking out. Worst case for IRC is I spam you all with NPC dialog while running a Pathfinder game
2249[31/12/2014, 3:48:07 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2250[31/12/2014, 3:48:12 PM] Remy: lol
2251[31/12/2014, 3:48:21 PM] Remy: My concerns are eerily similar to SGG's
2252[31/12/2014, 3:48:46 PM] Remy: Although some of you already have my real name
2253[31/12/2014, 3:49:17 PM] Tesseract: is there anyone actually in favor of google over irc
2254[31/12/2014, 3:49:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If we can make the IRC solution easy to use/setup, then I'm in favor. Otherwise, Google
2255[31/12/2014, 3:49:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Google is easy to keep on your phone
2256[31/12/2014, 3:49:52 PM] Ian Cheong: IRC not so much
2257[31/12/2014, 3:49:56 PM] Tesseract: what no who cares how easy it is to set up
2258[31/12/2014, 3:50:03 PM] Tesseract: that is the most trivial thing I can imagine
2259[31/12/2014, 3:50:06 PM] Ian Cheong: I care?
2260[31/12/2014, 3:50:10 PM] Athena Hollow: matters to me not either way. I'm always at home on my computer, I don't think my IP has changed in 6 months or more, and I don't have any real names attached to anything lol
2261[31/12/2014, 3:50:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's totally phone friendly IRC clients
2262[31/12/2014, 3:50:14 PM] Ian Cheong: Because I'm not always at my computer.
2263[31/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] SF: We have spent more time talking about it just now than even the hardest option would take to set up FWIW.
2264[31/12/2014, 3:50:36 PM] Remy: I think IRC drains data and battery less than Skype and Google hangouts on the phone but I could be wrong
2265[31/12/2014, 3:50:49 PM] SF: I think Unreal Engine 4 drains less batter than Skype.
2266[31/12/2014, 3:50:54 PM] Remy: XD
2267[31/12/2014, 3:50:55 PM] Tesseract: isn't mobile skype utter shit
2268[31/12/2014, 3:50:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Skype is bullshit.
2269[31/12/2014, 3:50:59 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2270[31/12/2014, 3:51:01 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah
2271[31/12/2014, 3:51:02 PM] Tesseract: like I had it and I couldn't even turn off notifications
2272[31/12/2014, 3:51:11 PM] Ian Cheong: You can't turn off notifications on Skype.
2273[31/12/2014, 3:51:13 PM] Remy: I'll probably delete it from my phone once we make the move
2274[31/12/2014, 3:51:16 PM] Tesseract: I had to force close it to sleep or my friends would keep me up all night
2275[31/12/2014, 3:51:18 PM] Remy: What Ian said
2276[31/12/2014, 3:51:25 PM] Tesseract: the phone just vibrated endlessly
2277[31/12/2014, 3:51:35 PM] Remy: I've actually shut off this app's access to cellular data and even still when I drive around I still get updates constantly
2278[31/12/2014, 3:51:43 PM] SF: Sounds like my kinda phone
2279[31/12/2014, 3:51:46 PM] Tesseract: lol
2280[31/12/2014, 3:51:49 PM] Remy: I think Skype is run by data munching ghosts
2281[31/12/2014, 3:52:16 PM] Ian Cheong: If we move to IRC please give instructions on where to download a good IRC client
2282[31/12/2014, 3:52:20 PM] Tesseract: well I'm strongly in favor of irc
2283[31/12/2014, 3:52:34 PM] Tesseract: but I'm even more in favor of anything that is not skype
2284[31/12/2014, 3:53:04 PM] Remy: I'm looking up new iPhone IRC clients b/c the last one I used was Colloquy and I hear that app is shit nowadays
2285[31/12/2014, 3:54:10 PM] Alex Lifschitz: As long as IP locking can cope with the fact that Zoe and I are constantly on the move, sure.
2286[31/12/2014, 3:54:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Fwiw, all IRC clients on iOS are horseshit. Most agreeable is Palaver.
2287[31/12/2014, 3:54:46 PM] Remy: That's what it looks like
2288[31/12/2014, 3:54:49 PM] Ian Cheong: see that's a problem with IRC. the IP locking might screw anyone who moves around a lot.
2289[31/12/2014, 3:55:26 PM] SF: Is there an alternative to that Randi?
2290[31/12/2014, 3:55:55 PM] SF: Oh one other fringe con to IRC would be that if Randi got hit it'd take our chat down whereas they're not taking Google down.
2291[31/12/2014, 3:56:05 PM] Alex Lifschitz: If device locking is an option that can work for us.
2292[31/12/2014, 3:56:37 PM] Remy: Y'know
2293[31/12/2014, 3:56:40 PM] Remy: We could use both?
2294[31/12/2014, 3:56:45 PM] Tesseract: why
2295[31/12/2014, 3:56:49 PM] Remy: Google for non-serious chat for convenience and mobility
2296[31/12/2014, 3:56:53 PM] Remy: IRC for secure chat
2297[31/12/2014, 3:56:56 PM] Ian Cheong: Uhh.
2298[31/12/2014, 3:56:58 PM] Tesseract: no
2299[31/12/2014, 3:57:02 PM] Remy: nvmd then
2300[31/12/2014, 3:57:08 PM] Remy: Just spitballin'
2301[31/12/2014, 3:57:42 PM] Tesseract: yeah that would be a huge hassle and we'd abandon one of the two within a day
2302[31/12/2014, 3:57:53 PM] Remy: yeah you're right I'm being ridiculous x-x
2303[31/12/2014, 3:58:42 PM] Randi Harper: SF: the IPs won't be painful for anyone but me. and that's just some coding work i'd have to do. it would literally be going to a webpage and putting in a password to get your IP added. nothing else.
2304[31/12/2014, 3:59:21 PM] Randi Harper: i'm also happy to provide an easy like 5 step tutorial for using it and connecting to the right channel. although i might be able to get people to autojoin a channel.
2305[31/12/2014, 3:59:26 PM] Randi Harper: haven't set up an IRC server in ages.
2306[31/12/2014, 3:59:51 PM] Randi Harper: and it's really, really hard for anyone to get access to my server, fwiw.
2307[31/12/2014, 3:59:59 PM] Randi Harper: they would have to be at my apartment or my office to gain the kind of access they'd need to fuck with it.
2308[31/12/2014, 4:00:05 PM] SF: We could have the roleplaying room I've always dreamed of
2309[31/12/2014, 4:00:10 PM] Randi Harper: and then they'd need my SSH keys and my phone.
2310[31/12/2014, 4:00:15 PM] Tesseract: I 100% support the roleplaying room
2311[31/12/2014, 4:00:22 PM] Tesseract: also sounds awesome
2312[31/12/2014, 4:00:31 PM] Ian Cheong: can i make a quick suggestion?
2313[31/12/2014, 4:00:36 PM] Ian Cheong: instead of irc or google
2314[31/12/2014, 4:00:38 PM] Randi Harper: as far as DDoS goes, it's on AWS. randi.io hasn't been hit with any DDoS attempts so far. it seems unlikely.
2315[31/12/2014, 4:00:42 PM] Ian Cheong: we use Campfire
2316[31/12/2014, 4:00:46 PM] Ian Cheong: it has 2FA
2317[31/12/2014, 4:00:50 PM] Ian Cheong: I use it for business
2318[31/12/2014, 4:00:53 PM] Tesseract: there really can never be too much security in these because we're fucked entirely if it leaks
2319[31/12/2014, 4:00:56 PM] Randi Harper: or hipchat
2320[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 PM] Randi Harper: hipchat is free up to X number of users, i think.
2321[31/12/2014, 4:01:02 PM] SF: Ah DDoS was my concern, good to know.
2322[31/12/2014, 4:01:06 PM] Randi Harper: hipchat is fucking amazing.
2323[31/12/2014, 4:01:12 PM] SF: Are we fucked entirely?
2324[31/12/2014, 4:01:29 PM] Randi Harper: and the built-in emoji and gif support makes life wonderful.
2325[31/12/2014, 4:01:47 PM] SF: I mean their collusion conspiracies about a fictional Anti-GG go WAY beyond the scope of this chat.
2326[31/12/2014, 4:01:54 PM] Remy: I don't know if anyone has tried using Telegram
2327[31/12/2014, 4:02:18 PM] SF: I haven't used any of these so I can't comment.
2328[31/12/2014, 4:02:26 PM] Tesseract: irrelevant, we're pretty fucked if the existence of this chat comes out let alone the logs
2329[31/12/2014, 4:02:30 PM] Randi Harper: i use hipchat for work. it's atlassian, and i have a good working relationship with their dev team.
2330[31/12/2014, 4:02:46 PM] Randi Harper: i vote for hipchat. ease of use is amazing, good mobile support as well as desktop.
2331[31/12/2014, 4:03:07 PM] Tesseract: well it's 3am here so I hope something is figured out but I need to sleep
2332[31/12/2014, 4:03:08 PM] Tesseract: night
2333[31/12/2014, 4:03:29 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hipchat is made by Atlassian. They are a good company
2334[31/12/2014, 4:03:44 PM] Randi Harper: fuck it. i'm setting it up.
2335[31/12/2014, 4:03:50 PM] Randi Harper: any votes for a hipchat name?
2336[31/12/2014, 4:03:52 PM] Ian Cheong: k
2337[31/12/2014, 4:03:56 PM] Randi Harper: i like killallmen.hipchat.com
2338[31/12/2014, 4:03:58 PM] Remy: The Illuminaughty
2339[31/12/2014, 4:04:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): antigamers.
2340[31/12/2014, 4:04:02 PM] SF: How public is the name?
2341[31/12/2014, 4:04:03 PM] Ian Cheong: The Gibson
2342[31/12/2014, 4:04:05 PM] Randi Harper: only for us.
2343[31/12/2014, 4:04:12 PM] SF: What's the opposite of Burgers and Fries.
2344[31/12/2014, 4:04:17 PM] SF: Fish and Chips?
2345[31/12/2014, 4:04:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
2346[31/12/2014, 4:04:22 PM] Randi Harper: chips are fries. :P
2347[31/12/2014, 4:04:31 PM] Remy: fish and chips
2348[31/12/2014, 4:04:32 PM] Quinnae: Referencing that, even ironically, is probably a no-no at this point.
2349[31/12/2014, 4:04:37 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
2350[31/12/2014, 4:04:40 PM] Remy: yeah good point
2351[31/12/2014, 4:04:40 PM] Quinnae: Might come off as insulting to Zoe.
2352[31/12/2014, 4:04:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): solution6
2353[31/12/2014, 4:04:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oproguestar
2354[31/12/2014, 4:04:53 PM] Randi Harper: i default to ggautoblocker for everything, so if someone wants something else, tell me now. :P
2355[31/12/2014, 4:04:54 PM] Remy: lol no
2356[31/12/2014, 4:05:01 PM] SF: DARPA Skunkworks
2357[31/12/2014, 4:05:04 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: who is "youtube video guy"?
2358[31/12/2014, 4:05:07 PM] Remy: they would look for ggautoblocker
2359[31/12/2014, 4:05:12 PM] Randi Harper: they'd have to know we use hipchat.
2360[31/12/2014, 4:05:16 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Hip chat sounds good. If we end up with IRC fwiw Zoe was an IRC mod for years
2361[31/12/2014, 4:05:16 PM] Randi Harper: :P
2362[31/12/2014, 4:05:21 PM] Randi Harper: antigamers?
2363[31/12/2014, 4:05:25 PM] Remy: FOXDIE
2364[31/12/2014, 4:05:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 69chan
2365[31/12/2014, 4:05:36 PM] SF: Chuck C Johnson Pooped on the Floor
2366[31/12/2014, 4:05:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that I was refering to? The one explaining how he was going to murder Bri in a youtube vid
2367[31/12/2014, 4:05:40 PM] Quinnae: Anyway, I'm agnostic on the whole chat thing, I defer to the superior technical wisdom of folks like Randi. I need to go to bed. Body hurts.
2368[31/12/2014, 4:05:46 PM] Remy: ^
2369[31/12/2014, 4:05:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Weaponizedirony
2370[31/12/2014, 4:05:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Gaming's Feminist Illuminati
2371[31/12/2014, 4:05:59 PM] Remy: Except my body doesn't hurt I just like to defer to folks like Randi on tech issues
2372[31/12/2014, 4:06:01 PM] SF: Plastic Skulls
2373[31/12/2014, 4:06:03 PM] Quinnae: I'm sure I'll be able to get in touch with someone for the new details of our next hidey hole once they're available.
2374[31/12/2014, 4:06:06 PM] Randi Harper: has to be a hostname. not a name with spaces.
2375[31/12/2014, 4:06:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also hey, thanks random sea lion for letting me know someone I'm blocking is defaming me
2376[31/12/2014, 4:06:12 PM] Ian Cheong: Oh
2377[31/12/2014, 4:06:13 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sealions
2378[31/12/2014, 4:06:19 PM] Quinnae: (Also I vote for FeministIlluminati)
2379[31/12/2014, 4:06:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sealions.hipchat.com
2380[31/12/2014, 4:06:21 PM] Quinnae: Night all.
2381[31/12/2014, 4:06:24 PM] Randi Harper: sealions.
2382[31/12/2014, 4:06:24 PM] Randi Harper: yes
2383[31/12/2014, 4:06:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sleep well
2384[31/12/2014, 4:06:40 PM] Alex Lifschitz: GO SEA LIONS. MAKE STATE
2385[31/12/2014, 4:06:50 PM] Randi Harper: https://sealions.hipchat.com/invite/233742/122213427bcfb8ab910970abc4be7fe2
2386[31/12/2014, 4:06:54 PM] Randi Harper: go there.
2387[31/12/2014, 4:07:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://twitter.com/mylittlepwnies3/status/550198446536544257 charming!
2388[31/12/2014, 4:07:26 PM] Remy: SGG: That link doesn't work. Tweet already deleted?
2389[31/12/2014, 4:07:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Hipchat is awesome.
2390[31/12/2014, 4:07:47 PM] SF: > You are the 1st person from Sealions to sign up. 
2391
2392aw yeah
2393[31/12/2014, 4:07:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Not sure why I went with CAmpfire instead of this.
2394[31/12/2014, 4:08:13 PM] Randi Harper: i made the room private
2395[31/12/2014, 4:08:16 PM] Randi Harper: so i'll have to invite people
2396[31/12/2014, 4:08:28 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: why are we moving from skype? just precautionary?
2397[31/12/2014, 4:08:35 PM] Remy: Because Skype sucks
2398[31/12/2014, 4:08:35 PM] Ian Cheong: skype is bullshit
2399[31/12/2014, 4:08:38 PM] Ian Cheong: it eats up my phone's battery life
2400[31/12/2014, 4:08:42 PM] Athena Hollow: all of the above lol
2401[31/12/2014, 4:08:47 PM] Athena Hollow: downloading the winapp
2402[31/12/2014, 4:08:57 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm downloading both the iOS and Mac app
2403[31/12/2014, 4:09:14 PM] Remy: there's a Mac app?
2404[31/12/2014, 4:09:15 PM] Randi Harper: you can use the webapp or get a desktop/phone app at https://sealions.hipchat.com/home
2405[31/12/2014, 4:09:18 PM] Randi Harper: yes.
2406[31/12/2014, 4:09:19 PM] Randi Harper: the apps are amazing
2407[31/12/2014, 4:09:22 PM] Randi Harper: i don't use web normally.
2408[31/12/2014, 4:09:31 PM] Remy: app store returned no results
2409[31/12/2014, 4:09:36 PM] Randi Harper: HIGHLY recommend the desktop app
2410[31/12/2014, 4:09:39 PM] Randi Harper: because you can click and drag images
2411[31/12/2014, 4:09:44 PM] Randi Harper: and if you paste a URL it will show the image
2412[31/12/2014, 4:09:47 PM] Randi Harper: including animated gifs
2413[31/12/2014, 4:09:57 PM] Randi Harper: there are also built-in emoticons: https://www.hipchat.com/emoticons
2414[31/12/2014, 4:10:04 PM] Athena Hollow: fucking hell. WHY HAVE I BEEN HAVING ISSUES INSTALLING FROM MSI'S?!
2415[31/12/2014, 4:11:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. you can @mention
2416[31/12/2014, 4:11:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): to get attention
2417[31/12/2014, 4:11:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Kozmik_Pariah/status/550189803384614912 oh lovely they're looking into my dad
2418[31/12/2014, 4:11:37 PM] SF: Oh shit, they've found your identity then?
2419[31/12/2014, 4:12:27 PM] Randi Harper: ew the windows client is ugly
2420[31/12/2014, 4:12:30 PM] Randi Harper: i usually use the mac one :P
2421[31/12/2014, 4:12:44 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm on the MAc one
2422[31/12/2014, 4:12:46 PM] Ian Cheong: looks fine.
2423[31/12/2014, 4:13:14 PM] Randi Harper: the mac one is good
2424[31/12/2014, 4:13:40 PM] Randi Harper: okay so i have to be the one to invite people - until i set this up on my mac, where i can tweak the permissions. i don't seem to have quite the same level of room permissions in the windows client.
2425[31/12/2014, 4:13:59 PM] Randi Harper: i'll make more people owners when i get onto my mac.
2426[31/12/2014, 4:17:09 PM] Athena Hollow: god that was a pain in the fucking ass to get set up on win7.
2427[31/12/2014, 4:17:17 PM] Athena Hollow: i loathe msi installs now -_-
2428[31/12/2014, 4:17:25 PM] Randi Harper: i just ran it. >.>
2429[31/12/2014, 4:17:28 PM] Randi Harper: and it worked
2430[31/12/2014, 4:17:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: same
2431[31/12/2014, 4:17:42 PM] Athena Hollow: wouldn't let me. needed administrator privileges and it said nope
2432[31/12/2014, 4:17:45 PM] Athena Hollow: so i had to cmd it
2433[31/12/2014, 4:21:40 PM] Ian Cheong: So HipChat doesn't have 2FA
2434[31/12/2014, 4:22:24 PM] SF: Yeah, shame as it looked quite good.
2435[31/12/2014, 4:22:45 PM] Ian Cheong: I suggest Campfire but it requires a monthly payment of $10
2436[31/12/2014, 4:22:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Whcih surely we can afford.
2437[31/12/2014, 4:22:52 PM] Randi Harper: huh. that's weird.
2438[31/12/2014, 4:22:55 PM] Randi Harper: i thought hipchat had 2FA.
2439[31/12/2014, 4:23:04 PM] Randi Harper: ohhh
2440[31/12/2014, 4:23:10 PM] Randi Harper: i bet it's because it's tied to our LDAP servers at work.
2441[31/12/2014, 4:25:39 PM] SF: Tess's forum still sounds like a good idea too.
2442[31/12/2014, 4:26:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Once you migrate to Hipchat please purge any logs you may have.
2443[31/12/2014, 4:26:35 PM] Remy: Okay so we're back to Skype
2444[31/12/2014, 4:26:44 PM] Remy: I don't see Telegram messenger saying anything about 2FA just end-to-end encryption
2445[31/12/2014, 4:26:52 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah apparently hipchat doesn't have 2fa.
2446[31/12/2014, 4:27:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so I shouldn't bother running this installer then?
2447[31/12/2014, 4:27:18 PM] SF: Probably not.
2448[31/12/2014, 4:27:19 PM] Athena Hollow: probably not.
2449[31/12/2014, 4:27:22 PM] SF: Skype also does end to end.
2450[31/12/2014, 4:27:36 PM] SF: (Backdoored by the NSA but whatever)
2451[31/12/2014, 4:27:41 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Oh. Nvm.
2452[31/12/2014, 4:28:21 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's all good. SJW's run the government
2453[31/12/2014, 4:28:25 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: skype uses 256 AES
2454[31/12/2014, 4:28:27 PM] SF: True.
2455[31/12/2014, 4:28:30 PM] Randi Harper: there are complications in skype
2456[31/12/2014, 4:28:36 PM] Randi Harper: if you've friended someone, it's trivial to get their IP address.
2457[31/12/2014, 4:28:40 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm going to suggest Campfire again. It supports 2FA, multiple channels, invite only--per account basis.
2458[31/12/2014, 4:28:58 PM] Randi Harper: osx and windows desktop clients? mobile clients?
2459[31/12/2014, 4:29:04 PM] Ian Cheong: checking
2460[31/12/2014, 4:29:28 PM] Remy: It looks like Campfire is subscription based
2461[31/12/2014, 4:29:39 PM] Ian Cheong: Yes it is. someone has to pay for the channel.
2462[31/12/2014, 4:29:51 PM] Ian Cheong: There's campfire for the iphone, everyone else has to use the web app.
2463[31/12/2014, 4:30:09 PM] SF: How much?
2464[31/12/2014, 4:30:18 PM] Ian Cheong: 10 bucks a month
2465[31/12/2014, 4:30:50 PM] Ian Cheong: OH I WAS WRONG
2466[31/12/2014, 4:30:55 PM] Ian Cheong: there are various apps for windows and mac
2467[31/12/2014, 4:30:59 PM] Ian Cheong: https://campfirenow.com/extras
2468[31/12/2014, 4:31:09 PM] Ian Cheong: android phones too
2469[31/12/2014, 4:32:27 PM] Ian Cheong: Aaaand they all cost money, which I understand may be prohibitive for some of you.
2470[31/12/2014, 4:32:30 PM] Randi Harper: they don't have an official app?
2471[31/12/2014, 4:32:31 PM] Randi Harper: o_O
2472[31/12/2014, 4:32:39 PM] Randi Harper: i don't like choices.
2473[31/12/2014, 4:32:55 PM] Remy: Apparently they made their own iPhone app but outside of that they are relying on 3rd party developers
2474[31/12/2014, 4:33:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
2475[31/12/2014, 4:33:14 PM] Ian Cheong: this one's free for Mac. http://fluidapp.com/
2476[31/12/2014, 4:33:24 PM] Ian Cheong: if you pay you get extra features but that's it. it's free.
2477[31/12/2014, 4:33:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: rarewolves.tumblr.com the blog of anyone anyone knows?
2478[31/12/2014, 4:34:04 PM] Ian Cheong: this one's free for windows https://code.google.com/p/flare-browser/
2479[31/12/2014, 4:34:25 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Is it pay per client or per room?
2480[31/12/2014, 4:34:34 PM] Ian Cheong: per server.
2481[31/12/2014, 4:34:39 PM] Ian Cheong: you can have several rooms.
2482[31/12/2014, 4:34:51 PM] SF: Don't know them.
2483[31/12/2014, 4:35:19 PM] Remy: Anyway if y'all don't like Campfire the Telegram app seems to actually require operating based on a phone number and authorization or something
2484[31/12/2014, 4:35:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm willing to foot that if Randi signs off on it re: security confidence.
2485[31/12/2014, 4:35:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is getting weird- https://github.com/gratipay/inside.gratipay.com/issues/118
2486[31/12/2014, 4:35:34 PM] Ian Cheong: https://campfirenow.com/signup
2487[31/12/2014, 4:35:40 PM] SF: If this is going to be worth it for sure I'll pitch in.
2488[31/12/2014, 4:35:43 PM] Ian Cheong: darn it, it has a chatter limit.
2489[31/12/2014, 4:35:56 PM] Ian Cheong: the 12/mo has a limit of 12 people in a single channel.
2490[31/12/2014, 4:35:58 PM] Remy: Like I just downloaded it for my phone and had to type in my number and authorize my own access
2491[31/12/2014, 4:36:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: With all this headache I may toss my vote back with an engineered IRC.
2492[31/12/2014, 4:36:24 PM] Athena Hollow: sgg: ugh that thread devolved into regular gater talking points. shocker.
2493[31/12/2014, 4:36:45 PM] Ian Cheong: let me look up what 'chatters' refers to
2494[31/12/2014, 4:36:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: IRC is my preference after skype
2495[31/12/2014, 4:37:02 PM] Ian Cheong: What are simultaneous chatters?
2496
2497Simultaneous chatters are the total number of people chatting in each room at a time. For example, 78 people may have accounts in your system, but if you’re on the Plus plan only 25 of them can be in each Campfire room at one time.
2498
2499Both invited users and guest chatters count towards the simultaneous chatter limit.
2500[31/12/2014, 4:37:04 PM] Randi Harper: i will look into it more tonight.
2501[31/12/2014, 4:37:13 PM] Randi Harper: arenas right now sorry
2502[31/12/2014, 4:37:35 PM] Ian Cheong: we'd have to limit the channel to 25 people talking at a time for 24/mo
2503[31/12/2014, 4:37:50 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't think there's going to be any problem with that as long as we keep this group small.
2504[31/12/2014, 4:38:02 PM] SF: It'd been half an hour and Twitter still hasn't sent me a code I can set up 2FA with.
2505[31/12/2014, 4:38:16 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: assuming we need a non-skype alternative, what would the problems with IRC be?
2506[31/12/2014, 4:38:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Just Ian going "but myeeeeeeeh! IRC!" I think?
2507[31/12/2014, 4:38:52 PM] SF: Basically just the clients available.
2508[31/12/2014, 4:38:53 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, lemme know what we decide but know I am willing to foot the bill for Campfire. Hardly a dent in my trust fund.
2509[31/12/2014, 4:39:05 PM] Remy: lol
2510[31/12/2014, 4:39:18 PM] Remy: Well if anyone wants to try one more free client I think Telegram looks promising
2511[31/12/2014, 4:39:19 PM] SF: Specifically the mobile clients. But honestly they're better than Skype mobile anyway.
2512[31/12/2014, 4:39:37 PM] SF: And I think logging into this chat from phones is a bad idea in general.
2513[31/12/2014, 4:39:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think IRC would be the best option after skype, if we need to move from there. since there are so many options
2514[31/12/2014, 4:39:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Honestly this whole conversation reminds me of every RPG group I'm in talking about what to use for maps
2515[31/12/2014, 4:39:55 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm fine with IRC, honestly. If we can get a secure one set up, why not.
2516[31/12/2014, 4:40:15 PM] Ian Cheong: Just gotta make sure the IP locking doesn't screw Zoe and Alex.
2517[31/12/2014, 4:40:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: with IRC we could have a room you need to identify to nickserv with to get in for basic security, for more serious we could set up our own ircd
2518[31/12/2014, 4:40:27 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Only asks:
2519
2520- 2FA
2521- flushable logs
2522- not-shit clients
2523- dedicated servers a plus
2524[31/12/2014, 4:40:41 PM] Ian Cheong: Campfire has those.
2525[31/12/2014, 4:40:47 PM] Remy: SGG: Use Roll20 and stop arguing lol
2526[31/12/2014, 4:40:48 PM] Ian Cheong: All four.
2527[31/12/2014, 4:40:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: pretty sure Randi was talking about full on setting a custom server
2528[31/12/2014, 4:40:56 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Rad.
2529[31/12/2014, 4:41:10 PM] SF: Yeah it wouldn't have 2FA but it'd have IP filters.
2530[31/12/2014, 4:41:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'll investigate when we get home.
2531[31/12/2014, 4:41:17 PM] SF: Ideally I'd like a device whitelist.
2532[31/12/2014, 4:41:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also screw roll20. It does half what maptool does and doesn't let me measure as I move.
2533[31/12/2014, 4:41:44 PM] Athena Hollow: /cough/fantasy grounds/cough/
2534[31/12/2014, 4:41:45 PM] SF: I worry that an IP whitelist would be something Zoe and Alex could be harmed by since they're at risk of people going to their physical locations.
2535[31/12/2014, 4:42:09 PM] Randi Harper: i can do a device whitelist
2536[31/12/2014, 4:42:09 PM] Athena Hollow: sf: that plus password plus no room directory listing might help.
2537[31/12/2014, 4:42:10 PM] Randi Harper: with SSL certs
2538[31/12/2014, 4:42:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl me have to look that up, because my saturday group actually is looking to try something new
2539[31/12/2014, 4:42:16 PM] Randi Harper: i think
2540[31/12/2014, 4:42:35 PM] SF: Oh device whitelist would be great then.
2541[31/12/2014, 4:43:12 PM] Ian Cheong: i dont know why but i have the music from hackers playing right now.
2542[31/12/2014, 4:43:27 PM] Athena Hollow: points to my name
2543[31/12/2014, 4:43:29 PM] Remy: lol sorry I like roll20 because it is so drama free for me to set up and play
2544[31/12/2014, 4:43:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2545[31/12/2014, 4:47:09 PM] Athena Hollow: alrighty folks, my kid will be up in a few hours so i need to try and get some sleep.
2546[31/12/2014, 4:54:43 PM] Ian Cheong: http://theralphretort.com/journos-run-patrick-klepek-leaves-giant-bomb-disgrace/
2547[31/12/2014, 4:54:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Journos on the Run: Patrick Klepek Leaves Giant Bomb in Disgrace - The Ralph Retort
2548[31/12/2014, 4:59:18 PM] Alex Lifschitz: So are we just gonna do IRC or should we be looking into Campfire?
2549[31/12/2014, 4:59:30 PM] SF: Randi's going to look into a device whitelist.
2550[31/12/2014, 4:59:35 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Kk.
2551[31/12/2014, 5:00:29 PM] Alex Lifschitz: But again, I'm willing to foot the bill for Campfire of it's too big a pain to kluge our needs into IRC. Just lemme know.
2552[31/12/2014, 5:00:54 PM] Ian Cheong: Yep. 25 a month for the number of chatters we have in here.
2553[31/12/2014, 5:01:08 PM] SF: What was the reason for moving off Skype again?
2554[31/12/2014, 5:01:12 PM] Ian Cheong: simultaneous chatters I should say.
2555[31/12/2014, 5:01:26 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Risk assessment. Skype is a pain and insecure.
2556[31/12/2014, 5:01:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think if we require people to disable logging skype would be fine
2557[31/12/2014, 5:01:46 PM] SF: Oh right the IPs of contacts thing.
2558[31/12/2014, 5:01:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but it's up to other people
2559[31/12/2014, 5:01:58 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, just PM me if we decide on Campfire. Otherwise signing off for the night probably
2560[31/12/2014, 5:02:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: night alex, take care
2561[31/12/2014, 5:02:11 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: thanks again
2562[31/12/2014, 5:02:24 PM] SF: Send Zoe our love.
2563[31/12/2014, 5:02:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: seriously, that was some extra nasty stuff tonight
2564[31/12/2014, 5:03:11 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah for real.
2565[31/12/2014, 5:03:30 PM] Ian Cheong: David Auerbach has a really punchable face.
2566[31/12/2014, 5:03:46 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he was involved in this somehow?
2567[31/12/2014, 5:04:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: go look at AMiB's recent tweets
2568[31/12/2014, 5:04:11 PM] Ian Cheong: He's going after A Man In Black, is confusing him for someone else by that nickname who used to be a Wikipedia admin.
2569[31/12/2014, 5:04:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "kek"
2570[31/12/2014, 5:04:32 PM] SF: Wow they're still on that dead lead
2571[31/12/2014, 5:06:17 PM] Remy: lol
2572[31/12/2014, 5:06:58 PM] Remy: I'm fine with Campfire as well and I will try to pitch in for using it when I can
2573[31/12/2014, 5:07:14 PM] Remy: My check from the VA was another small one so like y'all might have to wait for February's
2574[31/12/2014, 5:07:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm?
2575[31/12/2014, 5:08:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh right, monthly server fees and a lack of kind delusions this'll end next month
2576[31/12/2014, 5:09:15 PM] Remy: Even if by some miracle we managed to stop the harassment against Zoe we would still be in it for the long haul of changing the culture around.
2577[31/12/2014, 5:09:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sad to say, but I think completely reforming the culture is the easier goal there
2578[31/12/2014, 5:11:58 PM] Ian Cheong: https://np.reddit.com/comments/2qvuao/slug/cna2kg5
2579[31/12/2014, 5:12:05 PM] Ian Cheong: folks,  we are literal psychopaths
2580[31/12/2014, 5:13:35 PM] Dan Olson: I will never get over the fact that GG has repeatedly aggressively aligned itself with people who are guilty of everything they claim to be opposed to
2581[31/12/2014, 5:13:53 PM] SF: It was never about video games.
2582[31/12/2014, 5:14:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It was however always about child porn
2583[31/12/2014, 5:14:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://gitgud.net/gamergate/gamergateop/tree/master/Operations/Operation-Disrespectful-Nod
2584[31/12/2014, 5:14:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Scroll all the way down
2585[31/12/2014, 5:15:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and recall that was on there from day 1, when this was on github, and they were on 4chan still
2586[31/12/2014, 5:15:38 PM] Remy: Yup
2587[31/12/2014, 5:15:39 PM] Dan Olson: I forgot about that gif
2588[31/12/2014, 5:15:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Everyone did, that's why I've been reminding people lately
2589[31/12/2014, 5:16:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Along with the fact that 8chan was founded a year ago pretty well exclusively as a child porn site, and yet everyone in GG somehow magically knew to go there to find new threads when they were booted off 4chon
2590[31/12/2014, 5:17:15 PM] Remy: Image
2591[31/12/2014, 5:17:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: like salmon, homing in on the rivers they were born in
2592[31/12/2014, 5:17:28 PM] Remy: Sorry but I jus thad to cage the room real quick
2593[31/12/2014, 5:19:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Come to think of it, I still have no clue why it took github to kick'em
2594[31/12/2014, 5:21:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I was e-mailing them from like, early september and getting back "what's the problem exactly? I'm still not seeing it" so I assume someone with a personal connection eventually spoke up
2595[31/12/2014, 5:21:43 PM] Ian Cheong: Image
2596[31/12/2014, 5:22:04 PM] Remy: XD
2597[31/12/2014, 5:22:19 PM] Remy: Ian I'm stealing that
2598[31/12/2014, 5:22:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: earlier one of mine was playing in a big ol' shopping bag. Got it to stand up, got to ride around a bit.
2599[31/12/2014, 5:41:00 PM] Alex Lifschitz: To everyone who's willing to pitch in on Campfire, no worries. I'm happy to cover the monthly cost. I'm gonna investigate it a little more before bed. If people come to a consensus by the time I wake up tomorrow, I'll set it up. I'd just like Randi's vote of confidence re: security and setting it up on her server first.
2600[31/12/2014, 5:41:46 PM] Remy: Just consider the cash I put down for that Reddit ad as my contribution to the Campfire fund as well pls <3
2601[31/12/2014, 5:41:53 PM] Remy: Since I heard that ad got pulled
2602[31/12/2014, 5:42:07 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yep yep
2603[31/12/2014, 5:42:29 PM] Alex Lifschitz: We might use that cash as a slush fund for more aggro advertisements when we have something suitable
2604[31/12/2014, 5:44:11 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, bed now. Night
2605[31/12/2014, 5:48:25 PM] Remy: nini
2606[31/12/2014, 6:00:00 PM] Ian Cheong: night
2607[31/12/2014, 7:25:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I wrote a thing- http://secretgamergirl.tumblr.com/post/106703392735/morality-legality-and-enforcement
2608[31/12/2014, 7:26:43 PM] Ian Cheong: It's sad that you needed to write that.
2609[31/12/2014, 7:26:56 PM] Ian Cheong: How do people not get that sexually abusing children and promoting the sexual abuse of children is a bad thing?
2610[31/12/2014, 7:32:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A- hell if I know, B- I just spent like 2 hours answering that question and linking to it.
2611[31/12/2014, 7:33:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's pretty easy to mentally distance oneself from terrible shit one isn't DIRECTLY doing
2612[31/12/2014, 7:35:45 PM] Rob: Morning
2613[31/12/2014, 7:35:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hi
2614[31/12/2014, 7:36:41 PM] Rob: did i miss anything while i as asleeeps
2615[31/12/2014, 7:37:43 PM] Ian Cheong: we are probably moving this chat to CAmpfire.
2616[31/12/2014, 7:37:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: GG found a way to make Zoe's life even worse, people decided to abandon this chat for probably IRC, and I wrote a very long blog post explaining to internet companies that contributing to the sexual abuse of toddlers is a bad thing they should stop doing.
2617[31/12/2014, 7:37:55 PM] Rob: Campfire?
2618[31/12/2014, 7:38:04 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah or IRC
2619[31/12/2014, 7:38:09 PM] Ian Cheong: we'll see what Randi suggests.
2620[31/12/2014, 7:38:13 PM] Rob: ah, ok
2621[31/12/2014, 7:38:19 PM] Rob: just keep me in the loop if it happens while i'm gone
2622[31/12/2014, 7:38:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: technically we're 1 person over the cap for campfire, but at least a couple people here never seem to be here, so, hey
2623[31/12/2014, 7:39:20 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, there's no actual limit to the number of people you can invite to the campfire, but we're 1 over the limit for simultaneous users.
2624[31/12/2014, 7:39:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Not a real problem since it's not like this chat is full 100% of the time
2625[31/12/2014, 7:42:21 PM] Ian Cheong: Did you tweet out that article, SGG?
2626[31/12/2014, 7:42:32 PM] Ian Cheong: So I can signal boost it
2627[31/12/2014, 7:42:54 PM] Ian Cheong: fuck it, ill tweet it out myself.
2628[31/12/2014, 7:47:59 PM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/550255940360871936
2629[31/12/2014, 7:48:01 PM] Ian Cheong: there you go
2630[31/12/2014, 7:48:46 PM] Rob: RTed
2631[31/12/2014, 8:03:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm still not quite getting what the problem is with skype if we disable logging?
2632[31/12/2014, 8:19:52 PM] Remy: Skype is just too frequently hacked
2633[31/12/2014, 8:20:22 PM] Remy: And the general consensus is that most of the folks here find the software eats up resources on whatever we're using
2634[31/12/2014, 8:20:58 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: well, changing the log retention settings would also fix the resource use
2635[31/12/2014, 8:21:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but it's up to other people of course
2636[31/12/2014, 8:21:25 PM] Remy: I kept suggesting Telegram :P
2637[31/12/2014, 8:21:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the security on skype is fine with 2FA. the only concern is just making sure people wipe their logs
2638[31/12/2014, 8:22:42 PM] Rob: i say we use ICQ because no one uses ICQ anymore
2639[31/12/2014, 8:22:52 PM] Remy: I'm just repeating what I've heard. I wouldn't mind moving to a less cumbersome medium, though, so I am going with the flow
2640[31/12/2014, 8:23:00 PM] Remy: lol Rob
2641[31/12/2014, 8:23:05 PM] Remy: Takin me back to the '90s
2642[31/12/2014, 8:23:18 PM] Remy: How about I make some popcorn and we go watch Beavis and Butthead Do America
2643[31/12/2014, 8:24:44 PM] Rob: :D
2644[31/12/2014, 8:24:49 PM] Rob: let's play pogs
2645[31/12/2014, 8:25:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: pogs confirmed for new chat venue
2646[31/12/2014, 8:25:06 PM] Rob: haha
2647[31/12/2014, 8:25:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i like how through some weird coincidence everyone in our chat almost all seems to be roughly the same ageish
2648[31/12/2014, 8:26:17 PM] Rob: I think Veerender is the only outlier.
2649[31/12/2014, 8:26:28 PM] Rob: Most of us are 27-33 or so, right?
2650[31/12/2014, 8:26:33 PM] Remy: yup
2651[31/12/2014, 8:27:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: 27-33 ie "the only age range in the world that remembers what pogs were"
2652[31/12/2014, 8:27:06 PM] Rob: haha
2653[31/12/2014, 8:27:19 PM] Rob: And older, too. There's a weird gap of like 10-15 years
2654[31/12/2014, 8:27:26 PM] Rob: "Remember alf? He's back! In pog form!"
2655[31/12/2014, 8:27:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: everything's comin up milhouse
2656[31/12/2014, 8:28:23 PM] Rob: :D
2657[31/12/2014, 9:02:40 PM] Remy: I'm tooling around on minecraft <3
2658[31/12/2014, 9:06:57 PM] Rob: Minecraft is fun
2659[31/12/2014, 10:08:34 PM] Rob: Really fucking hate this guy tweeting at me and veerender. he sent me a picture of a dead woman, too. wonder if it's the dude who used those 2 burner accounts to do that previously
2660[31/12/2014, 10:08:49 PM] Ian Cheong: of course it is.
2661[31/12/2014, 10:08:52 PM] Ian Cheong: its always the same dude.
2662[31/12/2014, 10:09:00 PM] Rob: Yeah
2663[31/12/2014, 10:11:57 PM] Ian Cheong: I despise Auerbach.
2664[31/12/2014, 10:12:05 PM] Ian Cheong: Fuck that guy so much.
2665[31/12/2014, 10:12:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i was gonna try to get not-so-bad at smash but i can't get the tv here working for some reason >:O
2666[31/12/2014, 10:12:24 PM] Ian Cheong: oh no
2667[31/12/2014, 10:12:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: am i getting old
2668[31/12/2014, 10:12:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: will all electronics confuse me
2669[31/12/2014, 10:12:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: forever
2670[31/12/2014, 10:12:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: because i am pretty sure i did everything you are supposed to do!
2671[31/12/2014, 10:13:22 PM] Rob: I hate a lot of people
2672[31/12/2014, 10:13:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Auerbach wrote nasty things about me, which he never consulted me on before writing.
2673[31/12/2014, 10:14:00 PM] Ian Cheong: Dude straight up parrots everything GG says
2674[31/12/2014, 10:14:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: :(
2675[31/12/2014, 10:14:06 PM] Ian Cheong: and does it under the guise of a legitimate journalist
2676[31/12/2014, 10:14:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't know that. that's messed up
2677[31/12/2014, 10:14:28 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
2678[31/12/2014, 10:14:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm still pissed.
2679[31/12/2014, 10:22:06 PM] live:riotarms: Afternoon everyone
2680[31/12/2014, 10:22:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: can you make topsy analytics go back more than 1 month?
2681[31/12/2014, 10:22:43 PM] live:riotarms: Last day of this shitty year which I'm insanely happy about
2682[31/12/2014, 10:22:52 PM] Rob: ahoy hoy, knife
2683[31/12/2014, 10:23:17 PM] live:riotarms: Butts: I'm sure I did when I was doing those cathodedebris bits
2684[31/12/2014, 10:23:27 PM] live:riotarms: What you looking for?
2685[31/12/2014, 10:23:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&via=Topsy just wanted to see that but from the start of the HT
2686[31/12/2014, 10:26:25 PM] live:riotarms: No dice, looks like
2687[31/12/2014, 10:26:37 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ah, ty for trying
2688[31/12/2014, 10:26:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/IjeomaOluo/status/549737116637224961 that is like my favorite tweet
2689[31/12/2014, 10:26:43 PM] live:riotarms: Maybe topsy pro but I've never tried it
2690[31/12/2014, 10:27:06 PM] Dina : headache
2691[31/12/2014, 10:27:08 PM] Dina : why
2692[31/12/2014, 10:27:37 PM] live:riotarms: So this is moving away from Skype?
2693[31/12/2014, 10:28:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: don't think we've officially decided
2694[31/12/2014, 10:28:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my vote is still for skype + require everyone to turn off logs
2695[31/12/2014, 10:28:43 PM] Dina : works for me
2696[31/12/2014, 10:30:04 PM] live:riotarms: Not sure how I do that on the droid client
2697[31/12/2014, 10:30:26 PM] live:riotarms: Gotta say srn, that hashtag plummet is encouraging
2698[31/12/2014, 10:33:06 PM] live:riotarms: I'd vote an IRC system under a seriously boring name like golfchat or some such
2699[31/12/2014, 10:33:12 PM] Rob: the HT shit is misleading too b/c a lot of us who are opposed to it also use it
2700[31/12/2014, 10:33:24 PM] live:riotarms: Oh exactly
2701[31/12/2014, 10:33:25 PM] Rob: also hi dina <3
2702[31/12/2014, 10:33:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550298634760519681
2703[31/12/2014, 10:33:40 PM] live:riotarms: I use that tag to sucker them in
2704[31/12/2014, 10:33:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550298641412665345
2705[31/12/2014, 10:34:15 PM] Dina : hi!
2706[31/12/2014, 10:34:38 PM] Dina : lol Sarah
2707[31/12/2014, 10:34:40 PM] Athena Hollow: This 'cold weather without a central heater' shit can die in a fucking fire :-/
2708[31/12/2014, 10:35:11 PM] live:riotarms: I lived in a flat with no heating for four years because I'm a fucking idiot
2709[31/12/2014, 10:35:58 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): b00nes is such an idiot
2710[31/12/2014, 10:36:16 PM] live:riotarms: Think I have him blocked
2711[31/12/2014, 10:36:34 PM] Athena Hollow: Our furnace broke a few years ago (which is fine because it's gas and cost us $60 on months we didn't use it, and $300+ on months we need heat plus $150 electric O______O) but the past few winters minus a couple days weren't unbearable w/ the electric heaters & radiator we have...
2712[31/12/2014, 10:36:40 PM] Athena Hollow: but today .... fffffffuuuuuu cold.
2713[31/12/2014, 10:37:12 PM] live:riotarms: I'm considering writing "this is why gamergate is impotent in 2015" and sticking it on medium tomorrow
2714[31/12/2014, 10:37:22 PM] Athena Hollow: fucking indiana and shitty windchill -_-
2715[31/12/2014, 10:37:45 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's freezing over here in Seattle, too. Windchill
2716[31/12/2014, 10:37:47 PM] live:riotarms: If anyone wants to suggest bullet points
2717[31/12/2014, 10:38:11 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Plz plz call them out on their "anti-gamer" and "pro-corruption" labels.
2718[31/12/2014, 10:38:15 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's so absurd
2719[31/12/2014, 10:38:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and hilarious
2720[31/12/2014, 10:38:19 PM] live:riotarms: 1 would be "they've pissed off everyone influential"
2721[31/12/2014, 10:38:45 PM] live:riotarms: 2 they've united disperate subcultures against them
2722[31/12/2014, 10:39:01 PM] Dina : barf
2723[31/12/2014, 10:39:11 PM] Athena Hollow: the only havens they have are some of the scum of the earth
2724[31/12/2014, 10:39:26 PM] live:riotarms: 3 they're just a great way of identifying people who've harassed them for years
2725[31/12/2014, 10:39:39 PM] live:riotarms: 4 8chan is going doooown
2726[31/12/2014, 10:39:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 5. Not enough Kiwikkus
2727[31/12/2014, 10:40:02 PM] Athena Hollow: hah
2728[31/12/2014, 10:40:07 PM] Rob: it's pretty warm here. 34, windchill of 27
2729[31/12/2014, 10:40:22 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seriously. They shun every memeber who is like Kiwikku and actually trying to do something positive
2730[31/12/2014, 10:40:23 PM] Athena Hollow: god, i almost want to lionize kiwikku
2731[31/12/2014, 10:40:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2732[31/12/2014, 10:40:25 PM] live:riotarms: On that point I want to stress the leader of 8chan has fled the country, they've been busted for child porn and their Paetron is gone
2733[31/12/2014, 10:40:56 PM] Dina : hot wheels fled the country...?
2734[31/12/2014, 10:41:03 PM] live:riotarms: But yeah 5 they've only got assholes on their side
2735[31/12/2014, 10:41:08 PM] Rob: Yea dina
2736[31/12/2014, 10:41:11 PM] Dina : this whole thing is a mexican soap opera
2737[31/12/2014, 10:41:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. to the Philipines
2738[31/12/2014, 10:41:23 PM] Dina : minus the likable goofiness
2739[31/12/2014, 10:41:37 PM] Dina : oh God as if the Phillipines didn't have enough gross white men shitting it up
2740[31/12/2014, 10:41:40 PM] Athena Hollow: and no one w/ multiple amnesia
2741[31/12/2014, 10:41:46 PM] live:riotarms: He's fled to a sex tourism location and he's already being photographed with seriously young looking girls
2742[31/12/2014, 10:41:50 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, that's one theory
2743[31/12/2014, 10:41:52 PM] Dina : lol Athena you get me
2744[31/12/2014, 10:41:52 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
2745[31/12/2014, 10:41:58 PM] Athena Hollow: <3
2746[31/12/2014, 10:42:08 PM] Dina : yeah why am I not surprised
2747[31/12/2014, 10:42:46 PM] live:riotarms: Oh, I'd need to stress that the hashtag is failing and then emails have failed
2748[31/12/2014, 10:42:58 PM] Athena Hollow: i wanna know how a 19/20 y/o formerly ward of the state kid affords that big of a move
2749[31/12/2014, 10:43:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah the picture is seriously creepy
2750[31/12/2014, 10:43:17 PM] Athena Hollow: especially after seeing that article about him from last april or whatever
2751[31/12/2014, 10:43:18 PM] live:riotarms: He's going to work with 2ch is what I heard
2752[31/12/2014, 10:43:28 PM] live:riotarms: Which article was this?
2753[31/12/2014, 10:43:34 PM] Athena Hollow: where he supposedly had $5k stolen from him that was going to go to a new wheelchair
2754[31/12/2014, 10:43:35 PM] Athena Hollow: one sec
2755[31/12/2014, 10:43:46 PM] Rob: my guess? he sells child porn
2756[31/12/2014, 10:44:02 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah it seems likely doesn't it
2757[31/12/2014, 10:44:30 PM] live:riotarms: I wonder if he's using the public donations to cover for big private kickbacks
2758[31/12/2014, 10:44:33 PM] Dina : so now he's in the Phillipines making a new batch?
2759[31/12/2014, 10:44:36 PM] Athena Hollow: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/nyregion/after-leaving-victim-in-the-cold-the-police-work-to-make-it-right.html?_r=1
2760[31/12/2014, 10:44:40 PM] Dina : I'm... I'm really really sad now
2761[31/12/2014, 10:44:45 PM] live:riotarms: live:riotarms vomits
2762[31/12/2014, 10:44:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The whole thing is fucked up.
2763[31/12/2014, 10:45:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hotwheels is a horrible person. his disability is not an excuse or free pass
2764[31/12/2014, 10:46:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl did you see the picture they made of him
2765[31/12/2014, 10:46:27 PM] Rob: He's the sort of person who if he got hit by a bus I'd say that driver deserves a promotion
2766[31/12/2014, 10:46:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, there are so many. which one?
2767[31/12/2014, 10:46:43 PM] live:riotarms: Man that article made me sad
2768[31/12/2014, 10:46:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: let me see if i can find it
2769[31/12/2014, 10:47:19 PM] live:riotarms: I've got a minor disability but I'm also six foot five and big so I'm not a typical target for violence
2770[31/12/2014, 10:47:36 PM] live:riotarms: But this kid obviously is
2771[31/12/2014, 10:47:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Image
2772[31/12/2014, 10:48:36 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh yeah. that one. SPIN SPIN SPIN
2773[31/12/2014, 10:49:01 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I wasn't even aware Bri was "leading the pack" in this against 8chan? It's pretty much everyone
2774[31/12/2014, 10:49:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: asking patreon to cut off funding for child porn = LITERALLY ATTEMPTED MURDER BASED ON ABLEISM!!11
2775[31/12/2014, 10:49:11 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
2776[31/12/2014, 10:49:22 PM] live:riotarms: What was his job before that?
2777[31/12/2014, 10:49:31 PM] Dina : I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire tbh
2778[31/12/2014, 10:49:32 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he was a software dev
2779[31/12/2014, 10:49:39 PM] live:riotarms: Ah
2780[31/12/2014, 10:49:50 PM] live:riotarms: Work from home deal?
2781[31/12/2014, 10:50:07 PM] Rob: <3 dina
2782[31/12/2014, 10:50:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah there was a mini documentary about him from some place
2783[31/12/2014, 10:50:16 PM] Dina : <3
2784[31/12/2014, 10:51:03 PM] live:riotarms: Work from home web developer sounds like a sweet gig
2785[31/12/2014, 10:51:24 PM] Dina : mini documentary about the worst person alive since Pol Pot
2786[31/12/2014, 10:51:45 PM] Remy: So if he can't have child porn he will literally die?
2787[31/12/2014, 10:51:50 PM] Remy: 'cause I can live with that
2788[31/12/2014, 10:51:54 PM] Dina : LITERALLY
2789[31/12/2014, 10:51:58 PM] live:riotarms: I get that he's a bad person but his life is also basically videodrome
2790[31/12/2014, 10:52:09 PM] Athena Hollow: that moment when being a drug kingpen would be a step up.....
2791[31/12/2014, 10:52:18 PM] Remy: lol
2792[31/12/2014, 10:52:19 PM] Remy: So many steps up
2793[31/12/2014, 10:52:41 PM] Remy: Brennan makes pimps look like honest, hard working folk
2794[31/12/2014, 10:53:07 PM] live:riotarms: I'm not going to look it up because I don't want to spend my NYE fighting off panic attacks about disability body horror but I guess he won't be around for long
2795[31/12/2014, 10:53:34 PM] Remy: let's just try and make it through today without any panic attacks
2796[31/12/2014, 10:53:39 PM] Dina : that sucks for him but I wish he didn't spend his limited time on earth fostering child pornographers
2797[31/12/2014, 10:53:42 PM] Remy: Which for me is a long shot but I hope it's better for the rest of you
2798[31/12/2014, 10:54:03 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, I agree
2799[31/12/2014, 10:54:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: someone linked me leelah alcorn's twitter. apparently she spoke out about GG back in october, had RT'd fem freq etc. that's... really depressing. makes me feel like we were this close to being able to reach out to her :\
2800[31/12/2014, 10:54:31 PM] Remy: wow
2801[31/12/2014, 10:54:33 PM] Dina : :(
2802[31/12/2014, 10:54:33 PM] Athena Hollow: damn :-/
2803[31/12/2014, 10:54:42 PM] Ian Cheong: oh god dammit
2804[31/12/2014, 10:54:43 PM] Remy: I don't wanna see her TL I'll just get sad all over again
2805[31/12/2014, 10:54:43 PM] Ian Cheong: thats depressing
2806[31/12/2014, 10:54:44 PM] live:riotarms: I've just had a tiny glimpse of the machine that made him and it horrifies me
2807[31/12/2014, 10:54:50 PM] Rob: Ugh. damn.
2808[31/12/2014, 10:54:53 PM] live:riotarms: :(
2809[31/12/2014, 10:54:59 PM] Remy: I'm still not sure if I invaded her privacy by linking her suicide note for that newspaper to get her gender right
2810[31/12/2014, 10:55:22 PM] live:riotarms: That note was her voice
2811[31/12/2014, 10:55:24 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: she wanted that note public
2812[31/12/2014, 10:55:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah
2813[31/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Remy: That was what I told myself
2814[31/12/2014, 10:55:28 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
2815[31/12/2014, 10:55:37 PM] Remy: But now their parents are getting awful abuse
2816[31/12/2014, 10:55:40 PM] Remy: I mean I was furious at those parents but
2817[31/12/2014, 10:56:02 PM] Dina : why can't people just not bully
2818[31/12/2014, 10:56:03 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no, as a trans person i was furious at the parents and i'm still furious at anyone that would harass them. it's not the time or place, obviously
2819[31/12/2014, 10:56:07 PM] Remy: Life is always so complicated. It's always so hard to figure out the right thing to do
2820[31/12/2014, 10:56:13 PM] Dina : I hate her parents too but what does bullying them accomplish
2821[31/12/2014, 10:56:22 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah not cool the ppl actively targeting the parents, but yeah, they're shitty parents and people.
2822[31/12/2014, 10:56:50 PM] Remy: I dunno
2823[31/12/2014, 10:56:57 PM] live:riotarms: At the same time it's important for future trans teens and current ones she isn't erased in death
2824[31/12/2014, 10:56:58 PM] Remy: When I first heard the story I was so mad
2825[31/12/2014, 10:57:16 PM] Athena Hollow: i can't imagine being that much more concerned about outward appearances to fellow church folk than my own daughter :-/ Just...fuckin hell.
2826[31/12/2014, 10:57:26 PM] Dina : yep, awful people
2827[31/12/2014, 10:57:33 PM] live:riotarms: I used to be a dumb cis guy about this shit and I felt terrible yesterday
2828[31/12/2014, 10:58:19 PM] live:riotarms: I truly believe any kind of transphobia contributes to the suicide rate, shit like South Park, dumb jokes, etc
2829[31/12/2014, 10:58:21 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, I am not ok with the way people have been treating her parents no matter how sucky.
2830[31/12/2014, 10:58:33 PM] Rob: Agreed, knife
2831[31/12/2014, 10:58:44 PM] Rob: Like I was pretty awfully transphobic up until 2010 or so
2832[31/12/2014, 10:59:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think stuff like south park is complicated. like, the recent episode.. i had no problem with the episode itself. the creators didn't cross any lines. the problem is the audience is largely fucking stupid as shit, and the nuanced difference between what they're saying and what the audience THINKS they're saying is so easily muddled
2833[31/12/2014, 10:59:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think SP is irresponsible, but not transphobic. if that makes sense
2834[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 PM] Remy: The earlier episodes were blatantly transphobic
2835[31/12/2014, 10:59:56 PM] live:riotarms: Well the Ms Garrison arc was
2836[31/12/2014, 11:00:01 PM] Remy: The latest ones, not so much?
2837[31/12/2014, 11:00:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah i mostly meant the recent one
2838[31/12/2014, 11:00:09 PM] Dina : yeah SP has a history of transphobia
2839[31/12/2014, 11:00:25 PM] Athena Hollow: They at least appear to be learning which is a step in the right direction.
2840[31/12/2014, 11:00:38 PM] Remy: And yet their latest episodes were still able to be received and interpreted as "oh, transgender - transtrender, they just want to be trendy"
2841[31/12/2014, 11:00:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, I don't think you could drag an "I'm sorry we were shitty" out of them with any amount of torture lol
2842[31/12/2014, 11:00:42 PM] Rob: It's weird, too, because for everything they get right - like the majority of the 'go god go' episodes, they do horribly transphobic shit - like ms. garrison
2843[31/12/2014, 11:00:54 PM] Rob: Although knowing what dawkins has said, his reaction in that situation is probably what would happen
2844[31/12/2014, 11:00:59 PM] Athena Hollow: but they are willfully ignorant as shit to a lot of stuff for the lulz.
2845[31/12/2014, 11:02:26 PM] live:riotarms: Like, GTA has two tiny transphobic easter eggs
2846[31/12/2014, 11:02:30 PM] live:riotarms: The new one
2847[31/12/2014, 11:02:44 PM] live:riotarms: A truck texture and some trans sex workers
2848[31/12/2014, 11:03:13 PM] live:riotarms: Imagine drawing up an asset spreadsheet for a transphobic joke 5% of players will catch
2849[31/12/2014, 11:03:40 PM] live:riotarms: Totally fucked
2850[31/12/2014, 11:03:49 PM] Rob: I'm torn between saying 'that makes it even more disgusting' and 'at least more people won't see it'
2851[31/12/2014, 11:04:00 PM] Athena Hollow: but then... the internet exists
2852[31/12/2014, 11:04:04 PM] Athena Hollow: so everyone will see it -_-
2853[31/12/2014, 11:04:23 PM] Rob: Yeah...
2854[31/12/2014, 11:04:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah stuff like that is bizarre. like... why include it at all. it adds nothing of substance and just alienates people. like the bayonetta 2 rape joke thing :\
2855[31/12/2014, 11:04:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Lotoc2/status/550304536972513281 welp
2856[31/12/2014, 11:05:17 PM] Athena Hollow: god they overreact to the dumbest fucking shit
2857[31/12/2014, 11:06:22 PM] Dina : wait
2858[31/12/2014, 11:06:28 PM] Dina : there's a Bayonetta 2 rape joke
2859[31/12/2014, 11:06:30 PM] Dina : ?
2860[31/12/2014, 11:06:32 PM] live:riotarms: The sad thing about this suicide is it's going to be the only thing that will make borderline allies listen
2861[31/12/2014, 11:06:34 PM] Athena Hollow: grossly, yes.
2862[31/12/2014, 11:06:45 PM] Dina : I guess I didn't get to it yet
2863[31/12/2014, 11:06:50 PM] live:riotarms: The bayonetta thing is gross but that boss fight is consensual
2864[31/12/2014, 11:06:51 PM] Athena Hollow: (wow that statement works for both what Dina & Knife said heh)
2865[31/12/2014, 11:07:26 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it is, james? i hadn't played it. the scene made it certainly look like it is, though
2866[31/12/2014, 11:07:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dina: it's a fail state
2867[31/12/2014, 11:07:34 PM] live:riotarms: So it's dumb and awful and triggering but not quite as awful as it could be?
2868[31/12/2014, 11:08:00 PM] live:riotarms: That boss is in both games and he's one of Bayonetta's male friends
2869[31/12/2014, 11:08:06 PM] Dina : :(
2870[31/12/2014, 11:08:08 PM] live:riotarms: I believe
2871[31/12/2014, 11:08:58 PM] live:riotarms: I mean it's still awful because that's what the devs think friends with benefits is
2872[31/12/2014, 11:09:17 PM] Dina : PG folks are generally pretty good
2873[31/12/2014, 11:09:20 PM] Rob: I've never had friends with benefits so the concept is a bit alien to me
2874[31/12/2014, 11:09:25 PM] Dina : except that one fucking guy
2875[31/12/2014, 11:09:26 PM] Dina : JP
2876[31/12/2014, 11:09:31 PM] Dina : what a gross motherfucker
2877[31/12/2014, 11:09:37 PM] Dina : calls himself a feminist
2878[31/12/2014, 11:09:47 PM] Rob: I just picture sex and then being like 'so did you see the latest episode of Brooklyn nine-nine?' immediately after completing coitus
2879[31/12/2014, 11:10:06 PM] Athena Hollow: Rob: not innaccurate
2880[31/12/2014, 11:10:16 PM] Athena Hollow: replace that with Doctor Who and welcome to my life ^_^
2881[31/12/2014, 11:10:20 PM] Rob: haha
2882[31/12/2014, 11:10:42 PM] live:riotarms: Hideki is gross as hell and calls women babes but he slams gaters hard, I'm so confused
2883[31/12/2014, 11:10:57 PM] Rob: It's weird, I love peter capaldi as the doctor but hate the new season
2884[31/12/2014, 11:11:08 PM] live:riotarms: What I love about Doctor Who right now is it's a defacto Rick And Morty rip off
2885[31/12/2014, 11:11:10 PM] Athena Hollow: i am back and forth on it, but yes, adore him.
2886[31/12/2014, 11:11:21 PM] Dina : oh Japanese men in general are on their own level of cognitive dissonance
2887[31/12/2014, 11:11:21 PM] Athena Hollow: havent seen the xmas special yet
2888[31/12/2014, 11:11:25 PM] Dina : sorry if that's racist
2889[31/12/2014, 11:11:30 PM] Athena Hollow: I've heard.
2890[31/12/2014, 11:11:32 PM] Dina : but in 5 years of living there
2891[31/12/2014, 11:11:38 PM] live:riotarms: Island nation thinking
2892[31/12/2014, 11:11:43 PM] Dina : yeah as a society men are pretty fucking awful to women
2893[31/12/2014, 11:11:43 PM] Athena Hollow: It's especially prevalent among the upper class, is it not?
2894[31/12/2014, 11:11:51 PM] live:riotarms: They're like us Brits
2895[31/12/2014, 11:12:03 PM] Dina : classes are not as much of a thing in Japan
2896[31/12/2014, 11:12:12 PM] Dina : everyone is more or less equally sexist
2897[31/12/2014, 11:12:14 PM] Athena Hollow: sorry by class I mean more the bosses lol
2898[31/12/2014, 11:12:20 PM] Dina : like compliment my tits at work sexist
2899[31/12/2014, 11:12:24 PM] Athena Hollow: O________________________________o
2900[31/12/2014, 11:12:27 PM] Dina : ^this is considered normal
2901[31/12/2014, 11:12:35 PM] Athena Hollow: .....
2902[31/12/2014, 11:12:37 PM] Athena Hollow: sooooooooooooooooooo
2903[31/12/2014, 11:12:41 PM] Athena Hollow: avoiding Japan. Gotcha. LOL
2904[31/12/2014, 11:12:46 PM] live:riotarms: Birth rate is through the floor isn't it
2905[31/12/2014, 11:12:47 PM] Rob: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
2906[31/12/2014, 11:12:52 PM] Dina : like 40 year old coworker calling me at night crying because he overheard me say I was going on a date
2907[31/12/2014, 11:12:58 PM] Dina : and he thinks we should be together
2908[31/12/2014, 11:13:04 PM] live:riotarms: Oh god
2909[31/12/2014, 11:13:22 PM] Rob: WTF
2910[31/12/2014, 11:13:26 PM] Dina : then shaving his head the next day and telling other coworkers it's to make me feel guilty for rejecting him : D
2911[31/12/2014, 11:13:33 PM] live:riotarms: Way to be sexy and attractive, 40 year old dude
2912[31/12/2014, 11:13:39 PM] Dina : and sending them endless texts complaining about me : D
2913[31/12/2014, 11:13:54 PM] Dina : making my whole work environment somehow worse : D
2914[31/12/2014, 11:13:59 PM] Rob: "MY TEARS ARE A NATURAL APHRODESIAC" - Dina's creepy fucking awful coworker
2915[31/12/2014, 11:14:14 PM] Dina : and then when I tell the Producer, he says to get over it and I could "ruin his life" with this : D
2916[31/12/2014, 11:14:26 PM] Dina : and "take it as a compliment, he eventually backed off" : D
2917[31/12/2014, 11:14:32 PM] live:riotarms: Ugh
2918[31/12/2014, 11:14:36 PM] Rob: I'd stab people.
2919[31/12/2014, 11:14:49 PM] Dina : yeah I hate the Producer of MN9 more than life itself
2920[31/12/2014, 11:15:03 PM] Dina : "don't block people who insult you and be nice to them" Producer
2921[31/12/2014, 11:15:10 PM] Dina : this is on the MN9 forums
2922[31/12/2014, 11:15:15 PM] Dina : where I have to work everyday
2923[31/12/2014, 11:15:30 PM] live:riotarms: Oh damn I'm dumb, I just realised why your name was familiar
2924[31/12/2014, 11:15:34 PM] Rob: keiji inafune? blah
2925[31/12/2014, 11:15:58 PM] Dina : no, a rookie called Nick Yu
2926[31/12/2014, 11:16:01 PM] Rob: Oh
2927[31/12/2014, 11:16:06 PM] Dina : no game dev experience until comcept
2928[31/12/2014, 11:16:11 PM] Rob: Okay I was like
2929[31/12/2014, 11:16:15 PM] Rob: wtf? inafune? that makes me sad
2930[31/12/2014, 11:16:25 PM] Dina : first shipped game was Yaiba Ninja Gaiden Z
2931[31/12/2014, 11:16:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hahaha wtf at the shaving guy story dina x-x
2932[31/12/2014, 11:16:46 PM] Rob: I always wonder - would people like Yu's tune change if the posts were about them?
2933[31/12/2014, 11:16:47 PM] Dina : Inafune is regular old man sexist but otherwise a complete sweetie and a great supportive boss
2934[31/12/2014, 11:16:47 PM] live:riotarms: I heard that's bad
2935[31/12/2014, 11:17:05 PM] Rob: Like if the forums were flooded with "Nick Yu has a small penis and is a convicted dog fucker"
2936[31/12/2014, 11:17:22 PM] Dina : Yaiba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BuVfeDhQHI
2937[31/12/2014, 11:17:27 PM] Dina : please watch this teaser
2938[31/12/2014, 11:17:35 PM] Dina : it tells you all you need to know about my job
2939[31/12/2014, 11:17:35 PM] Rob: Watching
2940[31/12/2014, 11:17:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so are you saying the way to a woman's heart is NOT to call her at 3 in the morning when you barely know her, crying, and shave your head the next day???
2941[31/12/2014, 11:17:51 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts takes down notes
2942[31/12/2014, 11:17:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i've been doing this all wwrong
2943[31/12/2014, 11:18:08 PM] Dina : if YOU do it, Sarah, it'd be more likely to work :3
2944[31/12/2014, 11:18:21 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'd look like a weirdo with a shaved head ;-;; haha
2945[31/12/2014, 11:18:35 PM] Dina : yeah it didn't look good on him either trust me
2946[31/12/2014, 11:19:29 PM] Rob: wow.
2947[31/12/2014, 11:19:30 PM] Rob: this is. wow.
2948[31/12/2014, 11:19:47 PM] live:riotarms: I'm sort of sad Japanese game dev is how it is right now but I guess it was always a dinosaur feeding my inner child
2949[31/12/2014, 11:19:52 PM] Rob: this is like "FOURTEEN-YEAR OLD BOY'S WET DREAM: THE GAME"
2950[31/12/2014, 11:20:15 PM] Dina : HOW MUCH MISOGYNY CAN WE PACK INTO ONE GAME: THE TRAILER
2951[31/12/2014, 11:20:18 PM] Rob: seriously
2952[31/12/2014, 11:21:12 PM] Dina : so yeah there was no way my "SJW erotic aura" was ever going to make a difference at comcept, which makes the proto-GG shitstorm when I got hired that much worse tbh
2953[31/12/2014, 11:21:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it's strange. because in some ways japanese games can be totally refreshing relative to like american AAA games in terms of representation of women
2954[31/12/2014, 11:21:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: like in RPGs and whatnot
2955[31/12/2014, 11:21:59 PM] Rob: it's so infuriating too b/c you're one of the sweetest and nicest people ever
2956[31/12/2014, 11:22:00 PM] Remy: That's the weirdest story ever Dina
2957[31/12/2014, 11:22:06 PM] Remy: You need to find a job where sane people work
2958[31/12/2014, 11:22:16 PM] Rob: I remember when I was doing really poorly at the beginning of the year and you were DMing me to make sure I was okay and stuff, and we hadn't really talked or anything
2959[31/12/2014, 11:22:32 PM] Rob: You're fucking incredibly kind and these people are just total fucking shit demons
2960[31/12/2014, 11:23:03 PM] live:riotarms: This game looks like someone played No More Heroes after having their sense of irony surgically removed
2961[31/12/2014, 11:23:03 PM] Remy: This whole planet is just a giant crazy factory
2962[31/12/2014, 11:23:24 PM] Remy: I can't get this damn Minecraft elevator to work
2963[31/12/2014, 11:23:25 PM] live:riotarms: And thought Travis had all the right moves
2964[31/12/2014, 11:23:51 PM] live:riotarms: (I liked No More Heroes, mind)
2965[31/12/2014, 11:24:46 PM] Dina : Rob you're amazing
2966[31/12/2014, 11:24:55 PM] Dina : and you stood up for me when you had no idea who I was
2967[31/12/2014, 11:25:00 PM] Rob: pft >_<
2968[31/12/2014, 11:25:01 PM] Dina : so I should be thanking you <3
2969[31/12/2014, 11:25:03 PM] Remy: This yaiba thing looks nothing like the ninja gaiden I remember?
2970[31/12/2014, 11:25:09 PM] Rob: Rob kicks rocks. >_<
2971[31/12/2014, 11:25:10 PM] Remy: And did he just say "sugar tits"?
2972[31/12/2014, 11:25:10 PM] Dina : yyyyeeeep
2973[31/12/2014, 11:25:16 PM] Dina : YYYEEEEP
2974[31/12/2014, 11:25:26 PM] Dina : EXCELLENT WRITING BY COMCEPT
2975[31/12/2014, 11:25:27 PM] Remy: Murder everyone involved in the making of this trailer. Possibly the game.
2976[31/12/2014, 11:25:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
2977[31/12/2014, 11:25:31 PM] Remy: Nobody will miss them
2978[31/12/2014, 11:25:36 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
2979[31/12/2014, 11:25:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had a crush on this british girl that used to call me sugar tits ;-;;
2980[31/12/2014, 11:25:43 PM] Rob: But dina, you arew welcome and thank you so, <3
2981[31/12/2014, 11:25:43 PM] Remy: But save whoever was in charge of the dialogue for me
2982[31/12/2014, 11:25:49 PM] Remy: I want them to myself
2983[31/12/2014, 11:25:51 PM] Dina : XD
2984[31/12/2014, 11:26:09 PM] Dina : for the lols: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/editorials/reviews/11163-Yaiba-Ninja-Gaiden-Z-Review-A-Load-Of-Friggin-Crap
2985[31/12/2014, 11:26:20 PM] Dina : the last paragraph in that is Sterling just NAILING IT
2986[31/12/2014, 11:26:28 PM] Remy: Seriously he finishes the trailer by crashing a bus into a giant replica of a woman's spread legs
2987[31/12/2014, 11:26:41 PM] Rob: Dude, I know. it's so sick
2988[31/12/2014, 11:26:59 PM] Rob: I fucking live jim sterling.
2989[31/12/2014, 11:27:01 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: is it bad i saw yaiba on TB's channel before i realized how much of an ass he was
2990[31/12/2014, 11:27:01 PM] Remy: Wow even the Escapist doesn't like it
2991[31/12/2014, 11:27:03 PM] Rob: love, rather.
2992[31/12/2014, 11:27:07 PM] Remy: Oh no wonder it's Jim Sterling
2993[31/12/2014, 11:27:12 PM] Remy: So glad he got out of that slimepit
2994[31/12/2014, 11:27:28 PM] Rob: You know what I find hilarious?
2995[31/12/2014, 11:27:29 PM] Dina : Stephen: HUMOR
2996[31/12/2014, 11:27:31 PM] Dina : FSHOOJAOASD
2997[31/12/2014, 11:27:35 PM] Dina : PANTIES FUNNY
2998[31/12/2014, 11:27:37 PM] Dina : BOOBS
2999[31/12/2014, 11:27:40 PM] Dina : POOPIE
3000[31/12/2014, 11:27:43 PM] Ian Cheong: you folks have no idea why he quit
3001[31/12/2014, 11:27:44 PM] Dina : WIMINS FUCK
3002[31/12/2014, 11:27:45 PM] Rob: Gamergate is so fucking toxic that it's even made people like Spoony rip the shit out of them
3003[31/12/2014, 11:28:02 PM] Dina : Ian nope not a clue also hi and Happy New Year!
3004[31/12/2014, 11:28:06 PM] Rob: I have no idea, ian
3005[31/12/2014, 11:28:09 PM] Ian Cheong: happy new year!
3006[31/12/2014, 11:28:14 PM] Rob: OMG THAT'S RIGHT YOU GUYS ARE IN 2015 NOW, RIGHT?!
3007[31/12/2014, 11:28:18 PM] Ian Cheong: 30 mins
3008[31/12/2014, 11:28:21 PM] Ian Cheong: 30 mins from now
3009[31/12/2014, 11:28:25 PM] Rob: Ohhh
3010[31/12/2014, 11:29:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: where do you live, ian?
3011[31/12/2014, 11:30:05 PM] Ian Cheong: malaysia
3012[31/12/2014, 11:30:18 PM] live:riotarms: I hate this faux grindhouse shit and it's kinda Suda's fault isn't it
3013[31/12/2014, 11:30:30 PM] Dina : friends worked with Suda
3014[31/12/2014, 11:30:34 PM] Dina : he is a fucking monster
3015[31/12/2014, 11:30:37 PM] Dina : lol
3016[31/12/2014, 11:30:50 PM] live:riotarms: You know Tim Rogers by any chance
3017[31/12/2014, 11:30:54 PM] Dina : he once had a freakout about his sandals
3018[31/12/2014, 11:31:02 PM] Dina : Tim Rogers... nope
3019[31/12/2014, 11:31:17 PM] live:riotarms: Ah, I knew this guy at GH
3020[31/12/2014, 11:31:23 PM] Ian Cheong: i know tim rogers
3021[31/12/2014, 11:32:17 PM] Rob: I think the thing I'm really afraid of finding out is like... the Toys for Bob guys or Chris Avellone or Feargus Urquhart or David Gaider or Josh Sawyer or Tim Cain are all evil people who are in a murder cult
3022[31/12/2014, 11:33:23 PM] Rob: YAY
3023[31/12/2014, 11:33:47 PM] Rob: I mean, I know most of them are good people or have said a lot of pro-feminist stuff in the past
3024[31/12/2014, 11:33:52 PM] Rob: But it's one of my secret fears, you know?
3025[31/12/2014, 11:33:54 PM] live:riotarms: Apparently at one point Kojima Pro were telling people not to discuss any details of MGS4 because he was a walking leak
3026[31/12/2014, 11:33:56 PM] Remy: Surprise surprise
3027[31/12/2014, 11:34:10 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: charloppe's been really sad a lot of her favorite youtubers were pro gg creeps
3028[31/12/2014, 11:34:16 PM] Dina : yeah I heard that
3029[31/12/2014, 11:34:25 PM] Dina : also he kept getting them into trouble with the Quiet stuff
3030[31/12/2014, 11:34:28 PM] live:riotarms: I'm thinking of doing youtubes in 2015
3031[31/12/2014, 11:34:30 PM] Rob: That sucks, Sarah :C
3032[31/12/2014, 11:34:38 PM] Dina : Sarah, I used to love Jontron
3033[31/12/2014, 11:34:42 PM] Rob: I fucking hate youtube, but I need to do more videos soon.
3034[31/12/2014, 11:34:42 PM] Dina : DON'T JUDGE ME
3035[31/12/2014, 11:34:59 PM] live:riotarms: Trying to work out a list of "don'ts"
3036[31/12/2014, 11:35:05 PM] Dina : now until he gives me a reason I'm all about PBG
3037[31/12/2014, 11:35:21 PM] Remy: I actually always hated most of those YT "celebrities" just b/c I'm antisocial so watching them all line up to support GG just made me feel good for preemptively hating them
3038[31/12/2014, 11:35:25 PM] live:riotarms: Gamergate is helping with the don'ts
3039[31/12/2014, 11:35:28 PM] Athena Hollow: the closest I've gotten to "a fan of someone on youtube" is that I've seen like 5 green bros vids LOL
3040[31/12/2014, 11:35:36 PM] Rob: Knife, watch thunderf00t videos for another big list of 'dont's
3041[31/12/2014, 11:35:40 PM] Rob: or the amazing atheist.
3042[31/12/2014, 11:35:41 PM] Remy: Which isn't to say that I hate everyone on YT, just the ones that don't do anything entertaining or informative or interesting
3043[31/12/2014, 11:35:53 PM] live:riotarms: I liked Bro Team until they started trying to raise funds for Eron
3044[31/12/2014, 11:35:57 PM] Athena Hollow: like, before GG i had no fucking clue who any of these people were.
3045[31/12/2014, 11:36:02 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm more picky with what i like. stuff like errant signal i love. i wish there was more like that. extra credits, pbs idea channel, etc. and none of them seem like they'd ever be pro gg haha
3046[31/12/2014, 11:36:20 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: bro team posted/rt'd some dox of zoe iirc
3047[31/12/2014, 11:36:37 PM] Athena Hollow: I knew yt was a cesspit, but didnt realize that was partially due to the ppl posting videos. I knew of annoying yters but didnt know about the fucked up ones.
3048[31/12/2014, 11:36:43 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, a gater summoned them to my mentions and he was trying to be reasonable
3049[31/12/2014, 11:36:56 PM] Rob: My stuff is all political. I wish I was better at talking about video games or art in general.
3050[31/12/2014, 11:37:02 PM] Athena Hollow: oh! and the guild! forgot about the guild lol
3051[31/12/2014, 11:37:05 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, that's it.
3052[31/12/2014, 11:37:07 PM] live:riotarms: And I was like dude you follow Erik K and Baldwin
3053[31/12/2014, 11:37:18 PM] Remy: My YT channel is nothing but bugs and glitches I recorded that made me go WTF
3054[31/12/2014, 11:37:21 PM] live:riotarms: I have a love/hate thing with geek stuff
3055[31/12/2014, 11:37:39 PM] live:riotarms: Like I'm a huge geek but I also like understated stuff
3056[31/12/2014, 11:37:42 PM] Athena Hollow: my 8 year old can name more youtube channels than me LOL
3057[31/12/2014, 11:37:49 PM] Dina : wait, riot arms, who are you on Twitter? (sorry)
3058[31/12/2014, 11:38:02 PM] live:riotarms: Yeah, knifehorse
3059[31/12/2014, 11:38:08 PM] Dina : I like yelling at the camera and breaking things :(
3060[31/12/2014, 11:38:14 PM] Dina : go go red letter media
3061[31/12/2014, 11:38:21 PM] Dina : why did you have to make rape jokes
3062[31/12/2014, 11:38:22 PM] live:riotarms: Yessss red letter
3063[31/12/2014, 11:38:27 PM] live:riotarms: Wait what
3064[31/12/2014, 11:38:29 PM] live:riotarms: Argh
3065[31/12/2014, 11:38:37 PM] Dina : plinkett reviews of Episode 1
3066[31/12/2014, 11:38:44 PM] live:riotarms: Auralnauts are good but slow
3067[31/12/2014, 11:38:48 PM] Rob: yeah
3068[31/12/2014, 11:38:59 PM] live:riotarms: They did an amazing re dub of the prequel trilogy
3069[[31/12/2014, 11:39:24 PM] Dina : yyyeeeeeepp
3070[31/12/2014, 11:39:42 PM] Rob: agreed
3071[[31/12/2014, 11:40:32 PM] live:riotarms: Like I love following glinner but he re tweeted a pic of the film south park parodied for that mid rape with the line "it's about ethics in games journalism"
3072[31/12/2014, 11:40:44 PM] live:riotarms: And I was like what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
3073[31/12/2014, 11:41:06 PM] Ian Cheong: people dont think before they tweet
3074[31/12/2014, 11:41:08 PM] Rob: I want to make more feminism videos but I don't want to deal with mras right now. bleh
3075[31/12/2014, 11:41:14 PM] Ian Cheong: someone got mad atm e because i used the word stupid
3076[31/12/2014, 11:41:15 PM] Ian Cheong: guess what tho
3077[31/12/2014, 11:41:18 PM] Ian Cheong: im gonna keep using it
3078[31/12/2014, 11:41:57 PM] Rob: I had someone come at me for saying 'stupid'. I checked their TL and they repeatedly said 'dumb', so I told them to fuck off
3079[31/12/2014, 11:42:01 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3080[31/12/2014, 11:42:27 PM] live:riotarms: Language is a literal mindfield
3081[31/12/2014, 11:42:45 PM] live:riotarms: Didn't they call a transformer spastic a few years ago
3082[31/12/2014, 11:42:48 PM] Athena Hollow: at least stupid has meaning beyond ableism, as in - knowing the right answer but still going w/ the wrong one, but I've become partial to 'willful ignorance'
3083[31/12/2014, 11:43:02 PM] Rob: well that's the thing too
3084[31/12/2014, 11:43:02 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, spastic has zero ableist meaning in the US is why.
3085[31/12/2014, 11:43:09 PM] Rob: I get ableism and yes its a problem
3086[31/12/2014, 11:43:17 PM] Rob: but if they really want to get specific?
3087[31/12/2014, 11:43:23 PM] Rob: okay asshole whining about me using the word stupid
3088[31/12/2014, 11:43:31 PM] Rob: you brag about muting people on twitter
3089[31/12/2014, 11:43:37 PM] Rob: why do you hate people who can't speak you filthy fucking ableist?
3090[31/12/2014, 11:43:40 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3091[31/12/2014, 11:43:58 PM] live:riotarms: It's weird. The c-bomb is never used as a gendered insult over here
3092[31/12/2014, 11:44:15 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, it's almost killed me to not use cunt the past 6 months LOL
3093[31/12/2014, 11:44:19 PM] live:riotarms: It's become divorced from meaning
3094[31/12/2014, 11:44:26 PM] Rob: See, and I learned it from british TV, even as an american
3095[31/12/2014, 11:44:26 PM] Athena Hollow: I'm not British, but it's one of my favorite words hahaha
3096[31/12/2014, 11:44:29 PM] Athena Hollow: along w/ twat.
3097[31/12/2014, 11:44:33 PM] Rob: I watched a lot of british shows growing up so that's how I learned it
3098[31/12/2014, 11:44:47 PM] live:riotarms: Same as fuck and shit, they're just sort of weapons grade ways to punctuate a sentence
3099[31/12/2014, 11:45:10 PM] live:riotarms: But I've cut down on cunt because I interact with a lot of Americans and I see how it's used there
3100[31/12/2014, 11:45:17 PM] Athena Hollow: but I've made a concerted effort to not use them during this whole clusterfuck for a reason, but yeah.... if gg were to comb through my timeline wowee. XD
3101[31/12/2014, 11:45:35 PM] live:riotarms: The Australians get the best out of it, Athena
3102[31/12/2014, 11:45:48 PM] Dina : I personally don't like cunt
3103[31/12/2014, 11:45:48 PM] live:riotarms: It's a term of endearment over there
3104[31/12/2014, 11:45:56 PM] Dina : but I had to actively cut out "bitch"
3105[31/12/2014, 11:46:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: like most words, i think how you're using something like "cunt" is very important. only a silly person is going to be offended if someone's like MY STUPID CUNTING CAR WON'T START, imo
3106[31/12/2014, 11:46:15 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3107[31/12/2014, 11:46:16 PM] Dina : lol
3108[31/12/2014, 11:46:25 PM] Dina : bitching, on the other hand, is totally cool!
3109[31/12/2014, 11:46:27 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, I'll say "God we're cunts"
3110[31/12/2014, 11:46:33 PM] Dina : MY BITCHING CAR IS BITCHING
3111[31/12/2014, 11:46:34 PM] live:riotarms: Ha, well I'm born out of wedlock and I enjoy bastard greatly
3112[31/12/2014, 11:46:46 PM] Athena Hollow: but I don't typically or at least remember, referring to a woman who was being disagreeable as "a cunt"
3113[31/12/2014, 11:47:02 PM] live:riotarms: It's about if the word has power in the context it's used
3114[31/12/2014, 11:47:09 PM] Athena Hollow: I think the closest I've gotten is calling people 'dumb twats'
3115[31/12/2014, 11:47:22 PM] live:riotarms: Some always will I think, like the n-word
3116[31/12/2014, 11:47:31 PM] Ian Cheong: someone i follow on twitter says its wrong to tell people to go fuck themselves because it disregards autosexual people.
3117[31/12/2014, 11:47:32 PM] Ian Cheong: im like what
3118[31/12/2014, 11:47:39 PM] Athena Hollow: ....
3119[31/12/2014, 11:47:49 PM] live:riotarms: Oh wow
3120[31/12/2014, 11:48:03 PM] live:riotarms: Fuck that
3121[31/12/2014, 11:48:15 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, they aren't exactly wrong, but it's obviously not the connotation in anyway lol
3122[31/12/2014, 11:48:22 PM] Ian Cheong: and pissbabies?
3123[31/12/2014, 11:48:24 PM] Ian Cheong: cant say that either
3124[31/12/2014, 11:48:26 PM] Ian Cheong: because it makes fun of the incontinent
3125[31/12/2014, 11:48:29 PM] Athena Hollow: O_O
3126[31/12/2014, 11:48:29 PM] Ian Cheong: like ok
3127[31/12/2014, 11:48:52 PM] Athena Hollow: Ok, now we start getting into literal sjws that were the reason the name was made in the first place IMO lol
3128[31/12/2014, 11:49:01 PM] Remy: fuckwit
3129[31/12/2014, 11:49:03 PM] Remy: shitstain
3130[31/12/2014, 11:49:08 PM] Remy: I still have fallbacks
3131[31/12/2014, 11:49:09 PM] Rob: I heard someone say that if you say you're a sapiosexual, you're ableist
3132[31/12/2014, 11:49:11 PM] Athena Hollow: there's literally not an insult in the world that doesn't inherently demean someone.
3133[31/12/2014, 11:49:14 PM] live:riotarms: I unfollowed someone called MicroPenisRodney because his bot started arguing with a micro penis sufferer
3134[31/12/2014, 11:49:21 PM] Rob: and I think sapiosexual is a silly term
3135[31/12/2014, 11:49:23 PM] Rob: but ableist? wtf?
3136[31/12/2014, 11:49:35 PM] live:riotarms: That was actually an account named after a dril tweet too
3137[31/12/2014, 11:49:55 PM] Athena Hollow: hahaha oh god.
3138[31/12/2014, 11:50:16 PM] live:riotarms: Not sure why that was my wakeup that micropenis isn't something to treat as a causal joke
3139[31/12/2014, 11:50:35 PM] Dina : something something not the size of the boat
3140[31/12/2014, 11:50:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3141[31/12/2014, 11:50:42 PM] Dina : something something hitachi to the rescue
3142[31/12/2014, 11:50:44 PM] Ian Cheong: a micropenis isnt a small penis
3143[31/12/2014, 11:50:46 PM] Athena Hollow: YESSSSSSSSS
3144[31/12/2014, 11:50:50 PM] Dina : did I get that right?
3145[31/12/2014, 11:50:50 PM] Ian Cheong: its a literal medical condition
3146[31/12/2014, 11:50:57 PM] Dina : it is??
3147[31/12/2014, 11:51:02 PM] Dina : I had no idea
3148[31/12/2014, 11:51:07 PM] Rob: Yeah
3149[31/12/2014, 11:51:08 PM] Dina : today I learned
3150[31/12/2014, 11:51:21 PM] Remy: Kind of like how someone with dwarfism isn't just short
3151[31/12/2014, 11:51:44 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: micropenis (or microphallus) is often used in medical literature re: intersex people
3152[31/12/2014, 11:51:46 PM] Athena Hollow: nope. which is why my friends don't call me dwarf, they call me hobbit.... because they are assholes lol
3153[31/12/2014, 11:52:00 PM] live:riotarms: The idea penetration is sex sucks basically
3154[31/12/2014, 11:52:21 PM] Dina : yep
3155[31/12/2014, 11:52:30 PM] Rob: yep
3156[31/12/2014, 11:52:33 PM] Rob: for a lot of reasons
3157[31/12/2014, 11:52:47 PM] live:riotarms: Elvis couldn't do it often believe it or not
3158[31/12/2014, 11:53:06 PM] Dina : why are you aware of that lol
3159[31/12/2014, 11:53:08 PM] Remy: Too busy stealing music from the black community
3160[31/12/2014, 11:53:15 PM] Dina : OUCH
3161[31/12/2014, 11:53:16 PM] live:riotarms: Hahaha to both
3162[31/12/2014, 11:53:18 PM] Remy: XD
3163[31/12/2014, 11:53:25 PM] Dina : Dina  high fives Stephen
3164[31/12/2014, 11:53:32 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3165[31/12/2014, 11:53:43 PM] Dina : this is it, this is the turning point
3166[31/12/2014, 11:53:46 PM] live:riotarms: He had something up with a tight foreskin I read
3167[31/12/2014, 11:53:47 PM] Athena Hollow: so... like... my mother in law grew up around elvish.
3168[31/12/2014, 11:53:51 PM] Dina : where the chat either devolves into smut
3169[31/12/2014, 11:53:51 PM] Athena Hollow: elvis hahaha
3170[31/12/2014, 11:53:52 PM] live:riotarms: So he liked to watch
3171[31/12/2014, 11:53:56 PM] Athena Hollow: goddamn cold fingers.
3172[31/12/2014, 11:53:58 PM] Dina : or goes back the other way
3173[31/12/2014, 11:54:06 PM] Rob: Smut, eh? Go on. CREEPY STARE
3174[31/12/2014, 11:54:12 PM] Athena Hollow: and I had mentioned something about him appropriating black music and she lost her shit O_______O
3175[31/12/2014, 11:54:23 PM] live:riotarms: Dali also hated sex apparently
3176[31/12/2014, 11:54:32 PM] live:riotarms: Oh god I can't stop the trivia
3177[31/12/2014, 11:54:35 PM] live:riotarms: Help
3178[31/12/2014, 11:54:56 PM] Athena Hollow: so we went & researched it and while technically yes, he did, he also grew up in that community as well so it's apparently more akin to Eminem, than say, Igloo Australia.
3179[31/12/2014, 11:55:48 PM] Athena Hollow: And while she defended his music stuff, she did confirm that he was a giant manbaby asshole a lot of the time LOL
3180[31/12/2014, 11:57:01 PM] Remy: well that's comforting
3181[31/12/2014, 11:57:10 PM] Remy: Kinda nice to know Elvis wasn't completely shitty
3182[31/12/2014, 11:57:21 PM] Dina : foreskin too tight
3183[31/12/2014, 11:57:24 PM] Dina : makes me sad
3184[31/12/2014, 11:57:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3185[31/12/2014, 11:57:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: .. where did the foreskin comment come from i'm so confused
3186[31/12/2014, 11:57:56 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
3187[31/12/2014, 11:58:16 PM] Athena Hollow: Knife's full of random penis related information apparently hahahahah
3188[31/12/2014, 11:58:18 PM] Dina : Elvis
3189[31/12/2014, 11:58:26 PM] Remy: we're talking about Elvis' foreskin
3190[31/12/2014, 11:58:34 PM] live:riotarms: I'm a penis savant I think
3191[31/12/2014, 11:58:37 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3192[31/12/2014, 11:58:38 PM] Dina : I once slept with a guy who was all foreskin
3193[31/12/2014, 11:58:40 PM] Dina : like folds
3194[31/12/2014, 11:58:45 PM] Dina : I had no idea what to do
3195[31/12/2014, 11:58:46 PM] Remy: the penis whisperer
3196[31/12/2014, 11:58:53 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL Dina.
3197[31/12/2014, 11:58:53 PM] Dina : (also I was like 20 so)
3198[31/12/2014, 11:59:01 PM] Athena Hollow: I've actually never been w/ an uncut guy >_>
3199[31/12/2014, 11:59:03 PM] live:riotarms: Bad mental image of a full body foreskin
3200[31/12/2014, 11:59:10 PM] Dina : I just kept peeling back but it kept producing more foreskin
3201[31/12/2014, 11:59:12 PM] Dina : help
3202[31/12/2014, 11:59:13 PM] Remy: I have had the same experience Dina it'll put the brakes on an evening
3203[31/12/2014, 11:59:24 PM] Athena Hollow: Which would be impressive if I didn't live in the states where everyone has been circumcised.
3204[31/12/2014, 11:59:25 PM] Dina : yeah I felt really bad
3205[31/12/2014, 11:59:45 PM] Dina : like it's not you dude I just have literally never seen so much foreskin on one penis
3206[31/12/2014, 11:59:52 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
3207[31/12/2014, 11:59:56 PM] live:riotarms: That sounds like a Juni Ito story
3208[01/01/2015, 12:00:03 AM] Dina : I don't know how to approach this
3209[01/01/2015, 12:00:09 AM] Athena Hollow: with a map?
3210[01/01/2015, 12:00:13 AM] Dina : like, layer it down?
3211[01/01/2015, 12:00:21 AM] Dina : or just stroke the whole thing
3212[01/01/2015, 12:00:24 AM] Dina : maybe?
3213[01/01/2015, 12:00:45 AM] Dina : I eventually gave up, apologized and went home
3214[01/01/2015, 12:00:48 AM] Athena Hollow: don't feel too bad, i wouldn't know how to approach said situation either so there's that.
3215[01/01/2015, 12:01:04 AM] Dina : roll it back?
3216[01/01/2015, 12:01:21 AM] live:riotarms: Seeing mostly uncut dudes in porn gave me weird ideas about my junk
3217[01/01/2015, 12:01:36 AM] Dina : huh I only ever see cut dudes in porn
3218[01/01/2015, 12:01:45 AM] live:riotarms: Uh I meant cut
3219[01/01/2015, 12:01:49 AM] Dina : oh
3220[01/01/2015, 12:02:01 AM] Athena Hollow: oh i was about to say "what country you watching porn from?" lol
3221[01/01/2015, 12:02:04 AM] Rob: My school never had sex ed so the first time I saw porn that had an uncut guy in it I was like WHAT IS THAT
3222[01/01/2015, 12:02:10 AM] live:riotarms: Not something you want to mix up too much
3223[01/01/2015, 12:02:10 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
3224[01/01/2015, 12:02:36 AM] Remy: I was so lucky that my schools (or at least my teachers) had no patience for BS in sex ed and evolution classes
3225[01/01/2015, 12:02:38 AM] Remy: Even in the South
3226[01/01/2015, 12:02:41 AM] live:riotarms: The lack of foreskins in porn is damaging I think
3227[01/01/2015, 12:02:55 AM] live:riotarms: But I guess it's a supply issue in the states
3228[01/01/2015, 12:02:59 AM] Dina : agreed knife
3229[01/01/2015, 12:03:03 AM] Athena Hollow: yup was just about to say that.
3230[01/01/2015, 12:03:23 AM] Rob: it's getting more common now tho
3231[01/01/2015, 12:03:31 AM] Rob: it's under 50% for male circumcision for new borns now
3232[01/01/2015, 12:03:36 AM] Dina : I've been watching a lot less porn recently because my sources are all incredibly rapey violent dudebro stuff
3233[01/01/2015, 12:03:46 AM] Dina : and I don't know where the better stuff would be
3234[01/01/2015, 12:03:56 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, pretty much every woman I know outside of the states who's had at least 5 partners has been with an uncut guy.... whereas me, in the states with.... a ... lot... more than that under my belt, hasn't once.
3235[01/01/2015, 12:04:09 AM] live:riotarms: I had an uh... Elvis for a while and it gave me some pretty bad self image issues
3236[01/01/2015, 12:04:20 AM] Athena Hollow: altporn :) but even that is a little rare. some burning angel, some kink.com
3237[01/01/2015, 12:04:42 AM] live:riotarms: Not sure how legal kink is over here these days
3238[01/01/2015, 12:04:49 AM] live:riotarms: They banned facesitting
3239[01/01/2015, 12:04:53 AM] live:riotarms: In porn
3240[01/01/2015, 12:04:54 AM] Ian Cheong: kink is illegal in the UK
3241[01/01/2015, 12:04:57 AM] Remy: XD
3242[01/01/2015, 12:05:06 AM] Athena Hollow: i think it's legal to watch, just not produce iir
3243[01/01/2015, 12:05:18 AM] Dina : ugh
3244[01/01/2015, 12:05:20 AM] live:riotarms: Phew I mean uh that's interesting
3245[01/01/2015, 12:05:25 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
3246[01/01/2015, 12:05:27 AM] Dina : Knife that sucks I'm sorry :(
3247[01/01/2015, 12:05:37 AM] Athena Hollow: they banned FEMALE. EJACULATION.
3248[01/01/2015, 12:05:42 AM] Athena Hollow: dudes can still cum anywhere
3249[01/01/2015, 12:05:42 AM] Dina : oh
3250[01/01/2015, 12:05:43 AM] live:riotarms: God you're all making me realise I'm a huge perv
3251[01/01/2015, 12:05:44 AM] Athena Hollow: but not women
3252[01/01/2015, 12:05:48 AM] Dina : I'd be in trouble
3253[01/01/2015, 12:05:51 AM] Athena Hollow: they banned fisting.
3254[01/01/2015, 12:05:55 AM] Remy: we're all pervs
3255[01/01/2015, 12:05:57 AM] Dina : I'd be in trouble.
3256[01/01/2015, 12:06:03 AM] Athena Hollow: i'm like "mother fuckers. my vagina. back off"
3257[01/01/2015, 12:06:25 AM] live:riotarms: I've been celibate for a long while while I work on my anxiety issues is the thing
3258[01/01/2015, 12:06:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i've known a lot of women that thought they were with cut guys because they didn't realize foreskin usually automatically retracts when erect x-x so they were just confused lol
3259[01/01/2015, 12:06:38 AM] Athena Hollow: here in the states ,they have problems banning that stuff cuz freeze peach, but they have no issues pressuring the cc companies from allowing it to be sold -_-
3260[01/01/2015, 12:06:44 AM] live:riotarms: And that is not something you broadcast as a dude
3261[01/01/2015, 12:06:53 AM] Athena Hollow: heh sarah.
3262[01/01/2015, 12:07:18 AM] Dina : lol Sarah
3263[01/01/2015, 12:07:34 AM] live:riotarms: I have no idea how anyone in porn makes money with all the sites that give it out free
3264[01/01/2015, 12:07:35 AM] Dina : Knife yeah my best friend had similar body issues and it took him forever to start talking about them
3265[01/01/2015, 12:07:42 AM] Athena Hollow: Knife: niche :)
3266[01/01/2015, 12:07:52 AM] live:riotarms: Well I have mild cerebal palsy as well
3267[01/01/2015, 12:07:53 AM] Athena Hollow: geekporn has paid my bills for 8 years now LOL
3268[01/01/2015, 12:08:41 AM] Remy: Nothing makes me feel like the best writer in the world like watching old James Bond movies and laughing at how ridiculous it all is
3269[01/01/2015, 12:08:46 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3270[01/01/2015, 12:08:49 AM] live:riotarms: I've had a weird life!
3271[01/01/2015, 12:09:09 AM] Dina : :O
3272[01/01/2015, 12:09:15 AM] live:riotarms: Still, I just became unemployed in such a way I can do jack shit for four months
3273[01/01/2015, 12:09:17 AM] Athena Hollow: I'd say outside the porn stuff, I've led an extremely normal life but that's a fucking lie lol
3274[01/01/2015, 12:09:25 AM] live:riotarms: I might try and be a normo
3275[01/01/2015, 12:09:30 AM] Remy: don't do it
3276[01/01/2015, 12:09:31 AM] Remy: so boring
3277[01/01/2015, 12:09:33 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3278[01/01/2015, 12:09:52 AM] Remy: stay here and be mad with us
3279[01/01/2015, 12:10:00 AM] Rob: I'm like the most prudish and innocent person here, it's sad
3280[01/01/2015, 12:10:03 AM] live:riotarms: Boring sounds good, the decade I just had hahah
3281[01/01/2015, 12:10:21 AM] Athena Hollow: But, yeah, while my everyday life is total 'stay at home mom', the random shit I get to do & the people I get to meet just blows normal out of the water :D
3282[01/01/2015, 12:10:37 AM] live:riotarms: There's no such thing as normal
3283[01/01/2015, 12:10:57 AM] live:riotarms: That's why most people feel so unsatisfied
3284[01/01/2015, 12:11:11 AM] Athena Hollow: well yeah, but how many people can say they pay their bills from a combination of porn, an indie tabletop rpg, and web design - at the same time LOL
3285[01/01/2015, 12:11:23 AM] Dina : <3
3286[01/01/2015, 12:11:24 AM] Dina : hot
3287[01/01/2015, 12:11:25 AM] live:riotarms: That sounds fun as hell
3288[01/01/2015, 12:12:07 AM] Athena Hollow: so while there is no such thing as normal... my life is definitely on the outer precipice of 'not normal' as well LOL Which is awesome but exhausting.
3289[01/01/2015, 12:12:16 AM] live:riotarms: I still want to see the feminist porn Karin from The Knife/Fever Ray scored
3290[01/01/2015, 12:12:42 AM] live:riotarms: Especially after they pulled all that insane shit with Shaking The Habitual
3291[01/01/2015, 12:12:47 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, shit, we're working on a muppet porn & public domain movie remake series right now LMAO
3292[01/01/2015, 12:13:05 AM] Athena Hollow: odd life is odd lolol
3293[01/01/2015, 12:13:21 AM] live:riotarms: Sounds like you're living in Community in a good way
3294[01/01/2015, 12:13:28 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3295[01/01/2015, 12:14:20 AM] Dina : Athena you've lived a good life so far lol
3296[01/01/2015, 12:14:29 AM] Athena Hollow: :D
3297[01/01/2015, 12:14:36 AM] live:riotarms: http://youtu.be/DoH6k6eIUS4
3298[01/01/2015, 12:14:48 AM] Athena Hollow: definitely won't be going out without leaving a lasting crater, that's for damn sure LOL
3299[01/01/2015, 12:16:07 AM] live:riotarms: The Knife, beloved synth pop duo, bow out with a bizzare drone album with subliminal gender freedom overtones
3300[01/01/2015, 12:16:19 AM] Dina : ugh I wish I didn't have a headache
3301[01/01/2015, 12:16:32 AM] live:riotarms: Don't listen to that track then hahaha
3302[01/01/2015, 12:16:37 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3303[01/01/2015, 12:16:44 AM] Rob: God damn it. My grocery order has been delayed to 'at some point today' instead of 'within the next 45 minutes'
3304[01/01/2015, 12:16:57 AM] Athena Hollow: suck
3305[01/01/2015, 12:16:59 AM] Rob: which is annoying b/c I have nothing to eat since I used the last of my groceries before flying to California.
3306[01/01/2015, 12:17:09 AM] live:riotarms: Going to a SJW hangout tonight hahaha
3307[01/01/2015, 12:17:22 AM] Athena Hollow: nice!
3308[01/01/2015, 12:17:30 AM] live:riotarms: They have full political debates in the toilet wall grafiti
3309[01/01/2015, 12:17:42 AM] Athena Hollow: i'm staying home, deciding what to do. husband caught my flu and im not fully over the cough & sinus shit from it -_-
3310[01/01/2015, 12:17:52 AM] live:riotarms: Ouch
3311[01/01/2015, 12:18:16 AM] live:riotarms: It's different with family I guess
3312[01/01/2015, 12:18:16 AM] Athena Hollow: usually i just get really really drunk but i dunno if that's a good idea lol
3313[01/01/2015, 12:18:35 AM] live:riotarms: If I'm not getting drunk in a dive bar on new year I get really upset
3314[01/01/2015, 12:18:47 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3315[01/01/2015, 12:18:51 AM] live:riotarms: I feel like I've failed at life hahaha
3316[01/01/2015, 12:19:06 AM] Rob: I like getting drunk at home b/c I don't have to wear pants
3317[01/01/2015, 12:19:11 AM] Athena Hollow: i prefer drinking at home. Cheaper and the husband would probably kill someone in a bar on NYE
3318[01/01/2015, 12:19:12 AM] Rob: unless I have company over, I guess
3319[01/01/2015, 12:19:22 AM] Dina : for the first time ever I accepted my mom's invitation to a NYE
3320[01/01/2015, 12:19:26 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah the pants thing is good too.
3321[01/01/2015, 12:19:30 AM] Dina : mom is a decadent dancing drunk type
3322[01/01/2015, 12:19:32 AM] Dina : halp
3323[01/01/2015, 12:19:36 AM] Rob: haha
3324[01/01/2015, 12:19:37 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahah have fun with that
3325[01/01/2015, 12:19:44 AM] Dina : I usually do what she does at parties with my own friends
3326[01/01/2015, 12:19:49 AM] Athena Hollow: mine is a 'get drunk and do karaoke' type so i sort of feel your pain lol
3327[01/01/2015, 12:19:56 AM] Dina : but this year... it's a mother daughter dance off
3328[01/01/2015, 12:20:03 AM] live:riotarms: I think we can all agree 2014 will be good to go to hell tonight
3329[01/01/2015, 12:20:04 AM] Dina : (HELP)
3330[01/01/2015, 12:20:10 AM] Remy: Yup
3331[01/01/2015, 12:20:13 AM] Dina : (THE WOMAN CAN DRINK ME UNDEr THE TABLE)
3332[01/01/2015, 12:20:17 AM] live:riotarms: And that 2015 is going to be a massive improvement
3333[01/01/2015, 12:20:32 AM] Athena Hollow: It'd have to try really fucking hard to be worse
3334[01/01/2015, 12:20:39 AM] live:riotarms: Word
3335[01/01/2015, 12:21:07 AM] live:riotarms: One death in the family, two breakdowns I can't legally discuss because I settled
3336[01/01/2015, 12:21:11 AM] Athena Hollow: between personal losses, and community & global shit, I just can't fathom thinking next year might be worse -_-
3337[01/01/2015, 12:21:37 AM] live:riotarms: But for the first time I have nothing to do but fix my shit and enjoy life
3338[01/01/2015, 12:21:55 AM] live:riotarms: Exciting
3339[01/01/2015, 12:22:14 AM] Remy: I just had this weird idea for a parody sketch of what the world will be in 2025
3340[01/01/2015, 12:22:14 AM] live:riotarms: Sorry to hear that athena
3341[01/01/2015, 12:22:26 AM] Dina : speak of the devil she's dragging me to get my hair done bbiab
3342[01/01/2015, 12:22:33 AM] Athena Hollow: haha cya dina
3343[01/01/2015, 12:23:31 AM] live:riotarms: Later!
3344[01/01/2015, 12:24:33 AM] Remy: Later Dina <3
3345[01/01/2015, 12:30:28 AM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
3346[01/01/2015, 12:30:39 AM] Athena Hollow: mornin peter
3347[01/01/2015, 12:33:26 AM] Rob: Hey, peter!
3348[01/01/2015, 12:35:57 AM] Remy: If anyone ever finds Randi or knows someone who can set up a Markov bot to parody ChuckCJohnson
3349[01/01/2015, 12:36:09 AM] Remy: I will pay $20 to their paypal to set up my DuckCJohnson Twitter account to do that
3350[01/01/2015, 12:36:10 AM] Athena Hollow: oh god lol
3351[01/01/2015, 12:37:17 AM] Rob: CHUCK C. JOHNSON IS... THE FLOOR POOPER
3352[01/01/2015, 12:37:40 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: did he ever comment on the thunderclap lol
3353[01/01/2015, 12:37:47 AM] Peter Coffin: if I were more willing to spend time on something that niche I would have made that already
3354[01/01/2015, 12:38:01 AM] Peter Coffin: it's such a good idea
3355[01/01/2015, 12:38:02 AM] Peter Coffin: rob
3356[01/01/2015, 12:38:12 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550294883186274304
3357[01/01/2015, 12:38:14 AM] Rob: Ahoy hoy
3358[01/01/2015, 12:38:16 AM] Peter Coffin: like an overdone apatow film
3359[01/01/2015, 12:38:19 AM] Rob: haha
3360[01/01/2015, 12:38:20 AM] Ian Cheong: who made this fucker the arbitrator of what games are good for women
3361[01/01/2015, 12:38:21 AM] Peter Coffin: hey ian
3362[01/01/2015, 12:38:24 AM] Ian Cheong: hey peter
3363[01/01/2015, 12:38:28 AM] Athena Hollow: goddammit tb stfu
3364[01/01/2015, 12:39:05 AM] Remy: I know it'll never happen but
3365[01/01/2015, 12:39:12 AM] Peter Coffin: HAHAHA
3366[01/01/2015, 12:39:13 AM] Peter Coffin: YES
3367[01/01/2015, 12:39:15 AM] Remy: I just wish for one second that Kim Kardashian would see his tweet
3368[01/01/2015, 12:39:17 AM] Peter Coffin: THAT IS A SUBTWEET TO ME
3369[01/01/2015, 12:39:18 AM] Peter Coffin: THIS ASS
3370[01/01/2015, 12:39:34 AM] Remy: lol Peter as soon as I read the tweet I knew he was thinking' 'bout you
3371[01/01/2015, 12:39:42 AM] Peter Coffin: this dumb shit
3372[01/01/2015, 12:39:48 AM] Peter Coffin: I tweeted like 3 times yesterday
3373[01/01/2015, 12:39:53 AM] Peter Coffin: that weren't promo
3374[01/01/2015, 12:39:55 AM] live:riotarms: TB... christ
3375[01/01/2015, 12:40:01 AM] Peter Coffin: 1. why does gg care about me
3376[01/01/2015, 12:40:04 AM] Ian Cheong: im pretty sure its a subtweet to leigh alexander, peter.
3377[01/01/2015, 12:40:10 AM] Athena Hollow: I want to respond with "To give an award to a dude who exploits a hate group for page views seems to do a massive disservice to literally everyone in the world"
3378[01/01/2015, 12:40:17 AM] Peter Coffin: really? is she making comments about kim's game?
3379[01/01/2015, 12:40:18 AM] live:riotarms: Ever get the feeling he has no real opinions
3380[01/01/2015, 12:40:33 AM] Ian Cheong: maybe
3381[01/01/2015, 12:40:34 AM] Ian Cheong: i forget
3382[01/01/2015, 12:40:36 AM] Ian Cheong: maybe its you
3383[01/01/2015, 12:40:37 AM] Remy: wow did @notallbhas delete her twitter account?
3384[01/01/2015, 12:40:37 AM] live:riotarms: Just an insubstantial ghost of a neckbeard
3385[01/01/2015, 12:40:40 AM] Ian Cheong: i might be so wrong here
3386[01/01/2015, 12:40:50 AM] Peter Coffin: I have been talking about kim's game relative to rogue for several months
3387[01/01/2015, 12:40:50 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3388[01/01/2015, 12:41:01 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/232790/Gamasutras_Best_of_2014_Leigh_Alexanders_Top_5_Games.php
3389[01/01/2015, 12:41:09 AM] Peter Coffin: hahahah that is awesome
3390[01/01/2015, 12:41:20 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm happy leigh did something that high profile
3391[01/01/2015, 12:41:22 AM] Ian Cheong: Kim Kardashian: Hollywood by Glu Games
3392
3393When you become a video game critic you get on board with certain implicit (and often explicit) arguments: Games do not cause violence; they do not promote 'values' of one kind or another. They are cathartic, they are fantastical, they are toys. They let you have silly fun, and to think too much about it, or to interrogate one another too much about it, is to "miss the point."
3394
3395You know, I'm down with this argument. I made it when I was younger, and even though now I'm an adult and can say things like "maybe an experience can't help but be an expression of some aspect of the creator" or "maybe the content we consume both reflects and affects our culture," I still -- despite everything -- will take issue with the common presumption that games are trash or dangerous or both. 
3396
3397Hooky, unintrusive, digestible, memetic, funny, of-the-minute, fashion and celeb culture spoof Kim Kardashian: Hollywood is really good, and no amount of brand power or lunar gravity could have made it so popular if it wasn't (and hey, look: racial diversity and player-led sexuality like it ain't even a thing. Was that so hard?).
3398[01/01/2015, 12:41:37 AM] Peter Coffin: I was really to jump the fuck onto TB for writing a tweet on someone like me
3399[01/01/2015, 12:41:47 AM] Peter Coffin: that would, imo, be a real "you are a loser" moment for him
3400[01/01/2015, 12:41:47 AM] Ian Cheong: Yet then I heard an entire male-dominated game industry wring its hands: It's trashy! It's a sign of the end times. It instills bad values. All of our breastplate armor dragon babe power fantasies up til now were fine fiction, but this feminine Hollywood power fantasy deserves derision. 
3401
3402Funny how that works. You may now commence your comment thread on whether or not Kim Kardashian is a worthwhile human being and "deserves" her fame or not. You know you're gonna do that.
3403[01/01/2015, 12:41:56 AM] Peter Coffin: because they all think I am the biggest loser of all time
3404[01/01/2015, 12:42:01 AM] Peter Coffin: I was excited there
3405[01/01/2015, 12:42:10 AM] Peter Coffin: BUT
3406[01/01/2015, 12:42:14 AM] Peter Coffin: I am excited leigh did this
3407[01/01/2015, 12:42:16 AM] Athena Hollow: tb did win an award on some game show right?
3408[01/01/2015, 12:42:23 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah
3409[01/01/2015, 12:42:25 AM] Athena Hollow: k
3410[01/01/2015, 12:42:35 AM] Ian Cheong: he won the 'trending gamer' award.
3411[01/01/2015, 12:42:46 AM] live:riotarms: I have a complete disdain for microtransactions so I'm gonna abstain from this
3412[01/01/2015, 12:42:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Heyo, everyone. I'm at work and the office is empty ;_;
3413[01/01/2015, 12:42:57 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/athenahollow/status/550331236213075968
3414[01/01/2015, 12:42:58 AM] Rob: Hey izzy.
3415[01/01/2015, 12:43:09 AM] Rob: lol sargon is still following me
3416[01/01/2015, 12:43:16 AM] Athena Hollow: god that gross shitbag.
3417[01/01/2015, 12:43:22 AM] live:riotarms: I wonder if Jeff Minter ever wrote up his feelings on the MLP app
3418[01/01/2015, 12:43:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he's secretly a fan, Rob
3419[01/01/2015, 12:43:40 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/C418/status/550283316898054144
3420[01/01/2015, 12:43:53 AM] Rob: That makes me want to delete my account
3421[01/01/2015, 12:44:07 AM] Ian Cheong: just block him, then?
3422[01/01/2015, 12:44:17 AM] Rob: Oh, I was kidding
3423[01/01/2015, 12:44:17 AM] Remy: ^
3424[01/01/2015, 12:44:20 AM] Rob: it just makes me laugh he's following me
3425[01/01/2015, 12:44:30 AM] Rob: Besides, I'd rather him waste his time w/ me than do more sexist bullshit
3426[01/01/2015, 12:44:30 AM] Ian Cheong: ok
3427[01/01/2015, 12:44:40 AM] Ian Cheong: I wasn't sure because some people would rather delete their accounts than hurt someone else's fee fees
3428[01/01/2015, 12:44:46 AM] Rob: :D
3429[01/01/2015, 12:44:53 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Rob's a giant asshole.
3430[01/01/2015, 12:44:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, looks like I got dogpiled. Gonna see what GGers were saying (have 30 notifications)
3431[01/01/2015, 12:45:14 AM] Athena Hollow: He'll block Sargon when he knows it'll piss him off the most LOLOL
3432[01/01/2015, 12:45:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol, dumb gaters
3433[01/01/2015, 12:45:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): so dumb
3434[01/01/2015, 12:45:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
3435[01/01/2015, 12:45:27 AM] Peter Coffin: god I am so happy someone high profile shoved kim k's game in their faces
3436[01/01/2015, 12:46:17 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550332049832574976
3437[01/01/2015, 12:46:47 AM] Peter Coffin: that's fucking stupid
3438[01/01/2015, 12:47:21 AM] Ian Cheong: i can't process that tweet.
3439[01/01/2015, 12:47:25 AM] Ian Cheong: that's how dumb it is
3440[01/01/2015, 12:47:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): guys, I'm a retarded star! /s https://twitter.com/fox_sniper/status/550314688227987459
3441[01/01/2015, 12:47:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think they're implying that's actually happening/in immediate danger of happening? i don't even
3442[01/01/2015, 12:48:02 AM] live:riotarms: Remember being a kind when we all played games objectively and wrote reports afterward
3443[01/01/2015, 12:48:44 AM] Remy: Hey I'm gonna tweet out about TB's tweet. Someone gimme a good hashtag for it
3444[01/01/2015, 12:49:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Remember when the internet's biggest problem was those annoying Reply Girls on Youtube?
3445[01/01/2015, 12:49:18 AM] Ian Cheong: before google's youtube algorithm fucked them over.
3446[01/01/2015, 12:49:21 AM] Peter Coffin: #breaktheinternet
3447[01/01/2015, 12:49:24 AM] Ian Cheong: i miss those days
3448[01/01/2015, 12:49:32 AM] Athena Hollow: #douchesplainer
3449[01/01/2015, 12:49:39 AM] Athena Hollow: srsly fuck that guy.
3450[01/01/2015, 12:49:45 AM] Remy: mansplain is a good one though
3451[01/01/2015, 12:49:45 AM] Athena Hollow: he fucking panders to ggers all the time
3452[01/01/2015, 12:49:49 AM] Peter Coffin: #gamesplaining
3453[01/01/2015, 12:49:58 AM] Athena Hollow: and has the audacity to say this one particular game is a disservice to women?
3454[01/01/2015, 12:49:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hehehe: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550332994188103682
3455[01/01/2015, 12:50:00 AM] live:riotarms: #wisefedora
3456[01/01/2015, 12:50:01 AM] Athena Hollow: fuck. him.
3457[01/01/2015, 12:50:22 AM] Remy: No nobody uses mansplain as a hashtag
3458[01/01/2015, 12:50:27 AM] Remy: Who gave me that idea? Do push ups
3459[01/01/2015, 12:50:30 AM] live:riotarms: REAL WORLD FOLKS
3460[01/01/2015, 12:50:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: stole that, izzy https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550333048068538368
3461[01/01/2015, 12:50:44 AM] Ian Cheong: http://patrickklepek.tumblr.com/post/106719076069/i-decided-to-see-what-people-are-saying-about-you
3462[01/01/2015, 12:50:46 AM] Ian Cheong: patrick wins
3463[01/01/2015, 12:50:50 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3464[01/01/2015, 12:51:14 AM] Remy: "retarded star"?
3465[01/01/2015, 12:51:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hah, thanks, Sarah
3466[01/01/2015, 12:51:18 AM] Remy: Do they not even recognize Kirby?
3467[01/01/2015, 12:51:29 AM] Ian Cheong: fake gamer boys
3468[01/01/2015, 12:51:39 AM] Peter Coffin: "on a board I don't frequent"
3469[01/01/2015, 12:51:43 AM] Peter Coffin: as in "I go there"
3470[01/01/2015, 12:51:50 AM] Peter Coffin: "just not frequently"
3471[01/01/2015, 12:51:51 AM] Peter Coffin: which
3472[01/01/2015, 12:52:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, you know, it's JUST the GamerGate official home base
3473[01/01/2015, 12:52:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): nothing special
3474[01/01/2015, 12:52:11 AM] Peter Coffin: to a lot of these people, correct me if I am wrong, frequently means "500 tweets a day"
3475[01/01/2015, 12:52:25 AM] live:riotarms: Does GG have any secret groups
3476[01/01/2015, 12:52:31 AM] Peter Coffin: most likely
3477[01/01/2015, 12:52:37 AM] Peter Coffin: they don't use them well though
3478[01/01/2015, 12:52:39 AM] live:riotarms: It seems insane they'd do it all in public
3479[01/01/2015, 12:52:40 AM] Rob: Whenever I see gamergaters with persona 3 and 4 icons and banne rheaders on their twitter, I want to be like "You don't even know who Philemon is you filthy fucking casual"
3480[01/01/2015, 12:52:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): James, I don't think so. They do everything out in the open
3481[01/01/2015, 12:52:46 AM] Remy: There we go. Tweet deployed
3482[01/01/2015, 12:52:47 AM] Peter Coffin: because they organize everything on a fucking public board
3483[01/01/2015, 12:52:52 AM] Remy: Now to eat food and play pokemon
3484[01/01/2015, 12:53:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I saw a GGer explain that the reason they do things publicly is so other Gaters can find them easier and join in
3485[01/01/2015, 12:53:13 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): they are not very bright
3486[01/01/2015, 12:53:18 AM] Athena Hollow: nope.
3487[01/01/2015, 12:53:33 AM] Remy: I wouldn't be surprised if a small circle of the core nasties are still communicating on IRC or something
3488[01/01/2015, 12:53:40 AM] Peter Coffin: "hey look at that, they're doing something questionably legal, I should also do this"
3489[01/01/2015, 12:53:43 AM] Rob: TBF, I'm sure there are a few quieter groups that do coordinate shit
3490[01/01/2015, 12:53:45 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i would be shocked if they aren't
3491[01/01/2015, 12:53:47 AM] Rob: But I think they're probably informal.
3492[01/01/2015, 12:53:49 AM] Remy: But honestly most of them can't even stand each other
3493[01/01/2015, 12:53:55 AM] Athena Hollow: ^
3494[01/01/2015, 12:54:00 AM] live:riotarms: They have a private IRC that branches from #burgerandfries, or they did
3495[01/01/2015, 12:54:30 AM] Ian Cheong: #GamerGate Mostly Left-Leaning Liberals, According To Survey - William Usher (blogjob.com)
3496[01/01/2015, 12:54:40 AM] Athena Hollow: oh for fuck sake
3497[01/01/2015, 12:54:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): according to GG
3498[01/01/2015, 12:54:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh man, I need to find a reddit post. BRB
3499[01/01/2015, 12:54:53 AM] Athena Hollow: these are same dumb surveys that say LITERAL NAZIS are left
3500[01/01/2015, 12:55:05 AM] Peter Coffin: surveying a group which intentionally skews information about themselves
3501[01/01/2015, 12:55:08 AM] Peter Coffin: hahahahahaha right
3502[01/01/2015, 12:55:11 AM] live:riotarms: Liberal isn't exactly left
3503[01/01/2015, 12:55:16 AM] Athena Hollow: in the states it is.
3504[01/01/2015, 12:55:19 AM] live:riotarms: It's a centrist position
3505[01/01/2015, 12:55:23 AM] Athena Hollow: which is where most of these dudes are
3506[01/01/2015, 12:55:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): In other news, North Korea finds that it is the most humanitarian country in the world
3507[01/01/2015, 12:55:30 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah,  your left wing dropped off
3508[01/01/2015, 12:55:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it's from the political compass site. where 99% of people score "liberal left"
3509[01/01/2015, 12:55:38 AM] Athena Hollow: pretty much anything more liberal than hard core fundie christian LOL
3510[01/01/2015, 12:55:39 AM] live:riotarms: That's gotta be maddening
3511[01/01/2015, 12:55:54 AM] Athena Hollow: Especially maddening when you're a democratic socialist LOL
3512[01/01/2015, 12:56:01 AM] live:riotarms: Yeeeeah
3513[01/01/2015, 12:56:08 AM] live:riotarms: I miss viable socialism
3514[01/01/2015, 12:56:27 AM] Remy: There was a week where I kept running into a Gater troll and I'd search their timeline and I'm like "WTF everything else in their timeline is liberal shit why can't they figure out what pile of turds they've signed up with?"
3515[01/01/2015, 12:56:30 AM] live:riotarms: It's the only reason I can walk
3516[01/01/2015, 12:56:31 AM] Ian Cheong: KIA: "Anti-GG losing their shit over some Anita porn parody. Remember they're NOTHING like those ultra-conservatives!!"
3517[01/01/2015, 12:56:32 AM] Peter Coffin: I am a liberal, at this point I don't even care what politics are prominent - everyone has fucked everything up in the states
3518[01/01/2015, 12:56:54 AM] Ian Cheong: that's such a straw man argument
3519[01/01/2015, 12:57:05 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i usually vote green as a fuck you tbh
3520[01/01/2015, 12:57:05 AM] Peter Coffin: we're so past straw man
3521[01/01/2015, 12:57:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): found my screenshot. BRB tweeting something funny
3522[01/01/2015, 12:57:07 AM] Peter Coffin: hahahaha
3523[01/01/2015, 12:57:10 AM] Ian Cheong: it's like saying you hate hitler because the real reason is that you hate mustaches.
3524[01/01/2015, 12:57:15 AM] Athena Hollow: they brought up the sarah palin porno
3525[01/01/2015, 12:57:16 AM] Annie Kelly: sex-positive = pro-objectification/degradation to them
3526[01/01/2015, 12:57:26 AM] Ian Cheong: i wasn't ok with the sarah palin porno
3527[01/01/2015, 12:57:34 AM] Athena Hollow: except... sarah palin hasn't had to fucking deal with this shit, so even on THAT grounds it wasn't the same.
3528[01/01/2015, 12:57:39 AM] Peter Coffin: in gg's world, yes annie
3529[01/01/2015, 12:57:39 AM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, i wasn't a fan of it either.
3530[01/01/2015, 12:57:45 AM] Annie Kelly: I don't think many "SJWs" were
3531[01/01/2015, 12:58:02 AM] Annie Kelly: its just part of their equating us with the generalised "left" when convenient
3532[01/01/2015, 12:58:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Many people I know legit find Palin physically attractive, if not dumb as a box of rocks.
3533[01/01/2015, 12:58:14 AM] Athena Hollow: With the Anita stuff, it's straight up hate porn.
3534[01/01/2015, 12:58:20 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the sarah palin one was gross, but there's a BIG difference between that happening to someone running for national level political office and a fucking woman talking about games
3535[01/01/2015, 12:58:23 AM] Tesseract: did anything burn down overnight
3536[01/01/2015, 12:58:41 AM] Peter Coffin: there is a big difference in prominence and a big difference in undertones as well
3537[01/01/2015, 12:58:51 AM] Athena Hollow: I'd hide my sex toys under the couch but they are already there lol
3538[01/01/2015, 12:58:53 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah exactly.
3539[01/01/2015, 12:59:03 AM] Athena Hollow: they don't fucking grasp nuance.
3540[01/01/2015, 12:59:07 AM] Rob: christ
3541[01/01/2015, 12:59:10 AM] Rob: Sargon is so stupid
3542[01/01/2015, 12:59:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): HEHEHEHEHE: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550335299947999232
3543[01/01/2015, 12:59:11 AM] Athena Hollow: They think if one person does something that it's ok across the board
3544[01/01/2015, 12:59:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (sun)
3545[01/01/2015, 12:59:18 AM] Athena Hollow: but the context is so fucking important.
3546[01/01/2015, 12:59:29 AM] Peter Coffin: like... I'm sex positive (if it is someone's CHOICE to be sexual, go for it. it's their lives). I'm anti-degredation. Is that really that difficult to grasp?
3547[01/01/2015, 12:59:49 AM] Athena Hollow: apparently so lol
3548[01/01/2015, 12:59:49 AM] Ian Cheong: "I can understand if it was LW, since she's not well known. But Anita's a public figure and the face of radical feminism in gaming (despite not being a gamer). It was bound to happen eventually."
3549[01/01/2015, 1:00:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "radical feminism"
3550[01/01/2015, 1:00:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
3551[01/01/2015, 1:00:06 AM] Athena Hollow: because of one offhand comment 4 goddamn years ago
3552[01/01/2015, 1:00:13 AM] Athena Hollow: yep
3553[01/01/2015, 1:00:17 AM] live:riotarms: I wish I had Anita's collection man
3554[01/01/2015, 1:00:19 AM] Athena Hollow: they're so fucking trash.
3555[01/01/2015, 1:00:21 AM] Athena Hollow: RIGHT?!
3556[01/01/2015, 1:00:30 AM] live:riotarms: They're not gamers ian, that's why
3557[01/01/2015, 1:00:44 AM] Annie Kelly: don't even get me started on their use of "radical feminism"
3558[01/01/2015, 1:00:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey Annie!
3559[01/01/2015, 1:00:52 AM] live:riotarms: Not the core membership, maybe some of the drones
3560[01/01/2015, 1:01:00 AM] Annie Kelly: hello!
3561[01/01/2015, 1:01:03 AM] Remy: I think we all know who's been using the word "feminize" more than whom
3562[01/01/2015, 1:01:14 AM] Remy: pretend I spelled that... y'know
3563[01/01/2015, 1:01:17 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3564[01/01/2015, 1:01:32 AM] live:riotarms: Their idea of "MMO" is "use social media to destroy someone's life"
3565[01/01/2015, 1:01:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had someone try to tell me "radical" can only mean "EXTREME" and i pointed to the dictionary (one of the few times that's relevant to do) and it shows it refers to "root" and they're just like NO NO THEY'RE RADICALS THEY'RE EXTEMISTS
3566[01/01/2015, 1:01:52 AM] Athena Hollow: if they were extremist, why not say extremist?
3567[01/01/2015, 1:01:55 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550335989869068288
3568[01/01/2015, 1:01:58 AM] Athena Hollow: why use a word that means anything BUT extremist?
3569[01/01/2015, 1:02:04 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey Annie
3570[01/01/2015, 1:02:07 AM] Athena Hollow: it just seems so fucking dumb to me.
3571[01/01/2015, 1:02:19 AM] Annie Kelly: yday I saw SO MANY of them complaining about "radfems" pushing transgenderism on people
3572[01/01/2015, 1:02:22 AM] Annie Kelly: like yes, yes
3573[01/01/2015, 1:02:25 AM] Athena Hollow: PUSHING
3574[01/01/2015, 1:02:27 AM] Remy: Because words can mean anything. Gravy is water. Strawmen are appealing to authority. Legos are spicy now
3575[01/01/2015, 1:02:28 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
3576[01/01/2015, 1:02:28 AM] Annie Kelly: THAT IS WHAT RADFEMS ARE KNOWN FOR
3577[01/01/2015, 1:02:37 AM] Athena Hollow: we're telling all people they are now required to be another gender!
3578[01/01/2015, 1:02:46 AM] Rob: omg I can't stop laughing
3579[01/01/2015, 1:02:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol stephen.
3580[01/01/2015, 1:02:52 AM] Rob: sargon is saying b/c Obama is a feminist the USG is feminist
3581[01/01/2015, 1:02:53 AM] Ian Cheong: radfems are as bad as gators.
3582[01/01/2015, 1:02:56 AM] Athena Hollow: OMFG lol
3583[01/01/2015, 1:03:11 AM] Athena Hollow: but radfem =/= what most ppl think of lol
3584[01/01/2015, 1:03:19 AM] Ian Cheong: anita is no radfem
3585[01/01/2015, 1:03:24 AM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooo
3586[01/01/2015, 1:03:26 AM] Remy: Eventually GG's most transphobic argument eventually devolves to "Yeah but then anybody can just declare their gender to be anything whenever they want to" to which I respond "Yeah and so what?"
3587[01/01/2015, 1:03:26 AM] Peter Coffin: no she isn;t
3588[01/01/2015, 1:03:38 AM] Athena Hollow: techncially all feminists are radfems, except, amusingly, CH Sommers. 
3589Going against the status quo is techncially radical
3590[01/01/2015, 1:03:46 AM] Athena Hollow: it's just another buzzword like feminazi
3591[01/01/2015, 1:03:47 AM] live:riotarms: A-top: amen
3592[01/01/2015, 1:03:50 AM] Ian Cheong: CH "I support bullying" Sommers
3593[01/01/2015, 1:03:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's because CHS is an MRA
3594[01/01/2015, 1:04:02 AM] Remy: Oh dear, maybe life might become just a little bit more like a video game. What a fucking nightmare that would be
3595[01/01/2015, 1:04:12 AM] Peter Coffin: CH "wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo smug" S
3596[01/01/2015, 1:04:28 AM] Remy: lol
3597[01/01/2015, 1:04:29 AM] Annie Kelly: exactly I follow quite a few proper radfems (ex-radfem, coming clean) and they don't give a shit about GG
3598[01/01/2015, 1:04:39 AM] Peter Coffin: she seems to not actually know what she is talking about too
3599[01/01/2015, 1:04:45 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "radical" in the context of feminism just refers to "root." as in patriarchy being the root of the oppression of women. that's like.. all there is to it
3600[01/01/2015, 1:04:51 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
3601[01/01/2015, 1:04:53 AM] Peter Coffin: there are times it feels like she is saying things she didn't think about
3602[01/01/2015, 1:04:53 AM] Ian Cheong: "My suggestion to their critics; stand down."
3603[01/01/2015, 1:04:55 AM] Athena Hollow: but it got distorted.
3604[01/01/2015, 1:05:05 AM] Athena Hollow: like ppl who say feminism is about making women superior
3605[01/01/2015, 1:05:09 AM] Athena Hollow: how about "nope"
3606[01/01/2015, 1:05:21 AM] Peter Coffin: that is such a dumb artgument
3607[01/01/2015, 1:05:31 AM] Annie Kelly: lmfao
3608[01/01/2015, 1:05:33 AM] Annie Kelly: so free speech
3609[01/01/2015, 1:05:36 AM] Athena Hollow: because she makes a lot of money from that shit.
3610[01/01/2015, 1:05:41 AM] Athena Hollow: AEI bankrollin
3611[01/01/2015, 1:05:42 AM] Annie Kelly: such inclusive
3612[01/01/2015, 1:05:47 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: annie: do you mind if i ask what made you "ex"?
3613[01/01/2015, 1:06:25 AM] Remy: You know what's fucking ironic... is that the reason GamerGate can't figure out that they're the conservatives is because they're actually sitting on that weird end of the horseshoe/magnet that they used to try and posit that we were sitting on.
3614[01/01/2015, 1:06:30 AM] Remy: Ugh I may have to go dig it up
3615[01/01/2015, 1:06:35 AM] Athena Hollow: personally i'd like to see the words 'radfem' and 'feminazi' go the fuck away. They are so unbelievably strawmanned.
3616[01/01/2015, 1:06:43 AM] live:riotarms: The hilarious thing is patriarchal values aren't doing anything good for message board warriors
3617[01/01/2015, 1:06:45 AM] Dina : oh God I have the Biggest Lebanese Hair (tm)
3618[01/01/2015, 1:06:52 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
3619[01/01/2015, 1:06:53 AM] Remy: Some stupid political spectrum cartoon designed to show how the "extreme' left and the "extreme" right always end up looking the same after a while.
3620[01/01/2015, 1:06:54 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: pix dina ^^
3621[01/01/2015, 1:06:54 AM] Dina : I let my mom pick a hairstyle for me
3622[01/01/2015, 1:06:59 AM] Athena Hollow: oh god hahahahaha
3623[01/01/2015, 1:07:02 AM] live:riotarms: They're just giving them insane complexes
3624[01/01/2015, 1:07:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, pics or you are lying
3625[01/01/2015, 1:07:06 AM] Dina : and I can't see through this helmet of hair and spray
3626[01/01/2015, 1:07:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
3627[01/01/2015, 1:07:12 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
3628[01/01/2015, 1:07:13 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHH
3629[01/01/2015, 1:07:14 AM] Dina : PS: also the newest GoT book
3630[01/01/2015, 1:07:16 AM] Remy: I won't lie I would love to see your hair Dina
3631[01/01/2015, 1:07:30 AM] Dina : A Helmet of Hair and Spray
3632[01/01/2015, 1:07:38 AM] live:riotarms: See for me left wing implies personal liberty
3633[01/01/2015, 1:07:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, why is Chobitcoin watching both of us? https://twitter.com/xvszero/status/550336738863087617
3634[01/01/2015, 1:07:51 AM] Dina : also hello people who have woken up
3635[01/01/2015, 1:07:55 AM] live:riotarms: I don't consider Stalin to have been left wing
3636[01/01/2015, 1:07:57 AM] Remy: wow I'm on a watch list now?
3637[01/01/2015, 1:08:07 AM] Dina : lol Stalin is a stain on the face of leftism
3638[01/01/2015, 1:08:35 AM] Annie Kelly: woops sorry sarah I was watching a video ha, err yeah it was a fairly straightforward cycle, my mum is p heavily TERF so even tho I was way more "modern" on tran issues I still had a lot of residual stuff lying around about sex work/porn etc.
3639
3640what got me out of it was seeing the shitty ways radfems "on my side" treated sex workers, trans women or anyone they deemed a "handmaiden" really
3641[01/01/2015, 1:08:51 AM] Remy: From this Izzy it almost looks like Chobit is watching Andrew
3642[01/01/2015, 1:08:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
3643[01/01/2015, 1:09:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, wait. I don't think either of those accounts are the real Chobitcoin
3644[01/01/2015, 1:09:35 AM] Athena Hollow: WHY WAS CHOBITCOIN NOT BLOCKED?! ugh. goddammit twitter.
3645[01/01/2015, 1:09:40 AM] Remy: And they're both throwaway chobit accounts
3646[01/01/2015, 1:09:44 AM] Remy: I was just going to say that
3647[01/01/2015, 1:09:48 AM] Athena Hollow: that's why. ok.
3648[01/01/2015, 1:09:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): weird
3649[01/01/2015, 1:09:53 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: fair enough, annie! i don't identify as radical for similar reasons. still is like nails on a chalkboard when people use radical incorrectly though haha
3650[01/01/2015, 1:10:01 AM] Remy: I wonder if they belong to that one user.
3651[01/01/2015, 1:10:04 AM] Remy: The erratic one
3652[01/01/2015, 1:10:12 AM] Remy: We need to assign her a handle
3653[01/01/2015, 1:10:29 AM] Annie Kelly: ugh exactly sarah
3654[01/01/2015, 1:10:30 AM] Remy: I can't remember the first one she used tho
3655[01/01/2015, 1:10:32 AM] Athena Hollow: they link to a blog post that links to a Becky App?
3656[01/01/2015, 1:11:04 AM] Ian Cheong: What do you think of people who say men can't identify as feminists?
3657[01/01/2015, 1:11:12 AM] Ian Cheong: What gives them the right to dictate how people choose to identify.
3658[01/01/2015, 1:11:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Becky App is one of Chobitcoin's old aliases
3659[01/01/2015, 1:11:52 AM] live:riotarms: Ian: I want the idea of a patriarchal society gone for my own good as much as anyone elses
3660[01/01/2015, 1:11:55 AM] Remy: And these are throwaway accounts but they are definitely Chobits
3661[01/01/2015, 1:12:03 AM] Remy: They link to Chobit's blog
3662[01/01/2015, 1:12:03 AM] Athena Hollow: welp, blocked for good measure
3663[01/01/2015, 1:12:06 AM] Remy: And recent articles
3664[01/01/2015, 1:12:12 AM] Remy: What is Chobit's pronoun please?
3665[01/01/2015, 1:12:13 AM] live:riotarms: It devalues me as a depressive/disabled man
3666[01/01/2015, 1:12:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chobitcoin is a woman
3667[01/01/2015, 1:12:26 AM] Remy: Thank you
3668[01/01/2015, 1:12:35 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ian: i think the best response to that is to just be a "good" feminist. i think a lot of people alienated over men identifying as feminists are mad at the ones who do such and talk over women in regards to women's issues, for example
3669[01/01/2015, 1:12:38 AM] live:riotarms: So I'd say fuck yeah, I can be a feminist
3670[01/01/2015, 1:12:40 AM] Annie Kelly: Ian: I tend to be more wary of men who identify as feminist, simply bc of the "Listen, kitten," variety, but I still think they should be able to
3671[01/01/2015, 1:12:40 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and that sours the concept for them
3672[01/01/2015, 1:13:07 AM] Remy: I don't call myself a feminist but only b/c I have seen too many dudes like that
3673[01/01/2015, 1:13:13 AM] Remy: I also don't want to be called a "male ally"
3674[01/01/2015, 1:13:16 AM] Remy: Too much stank with that name
3675[01/01/2015, 1:13:32 AM] Annie Kelly: my basic rule of thumb is call yourself a feminist to other men, don't get loud about it with women
3676[01/01/2015, 1:13:42 AM] Ian Cheong: I just find it incredibly ironic that it was a trans woman who tweeted her anger at men identifying as feminists. A TERF could just as easily say that she too is in the wrong for identifying as a feminist because it's a term that should be reserved for "real" women.
3677[01/01/2015, 1:13:54 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: (unless it's the kind of woman that preaches CHS "feminism" lol)
3678[01/01/2015, 1:13:56 AM] Rob: omg omg omg omg omg
3679[01/01/2015, 1:14:03 AM] Rob: Sargon is complaining that I linked him to a 'giant wall of text'
3680[01/01/2015, 1:14:11 AM] Rob: 'I was elected to LEAD not to READ'
3681[01/01/2015, 1:14:15 AM] Annie Kelly: hahahahha
3682[01/01/2015, 1:14:20 AM] Ian Cheong: I was just about to quote that.
3683[01/01/2015, 1:14:24 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
3684[01/01/2015, 1:14:27 AM] Annie Kelly: reading too hard
3685[01/01/2015, 1:14:33 AM] live:riotarms: https://31.media.tumblr.com/19f7175fc9e9a5c0ada7cc163634c406/tumblr_inline_naf92lzxR51svid02.png
3686[01/01/2015, 1:14:41 AM] Athena Hollow: welp, that makes sense & fits in w/ ggers at least lol
3687[01/01/2015, 1:14:44 AM] Annie Kelly: easier to make unwatchable videos where you dissect a women talking word-by-word
3688[01/01/2015, 1:15:02 AM] live:riotarms: Who's that guy who does it with his shirt off
3689[01/01/2015, 1:15:14 AM] Athena Hollow: Jordan Owen
3690[01/01/2015, 1:15:17 AM] Ian Cheong: Thanks for your feedback, sarah, annie.
3691[01/01/2015, 1:15:19 AM] live:riotarms: The Sarkeesian Effect backup bro
3692[01/01/2015, 1:15:25 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ian: as long as men who are feminists recognize that ESPECIALLY when speaking in re: to feminism you need to be really concious of male privilege, i see no issue with it. in fact i encourage men to identify publicly as feminists
3693[01/01/2015, 1:15:34 AM] Ian Cheong: I hate dudes who try to hijack feminism.
3694[01/01/2015, 1:15:37 AM] Ian Cheong: to 'lead' it
3695[01/01/2015, 1:15:49 AM] Ian Cheong: like that Clive guy. Clive? What's his name
3696[01/01/2015, 1:15:52 AM] Ian Cheong: It starts with a C
3697[01/01/2015, 1:15:58 AM] Remy: Charles Clymer
3698[01/01/2015, 1:15:59 AM] Annie Kelly: ohhh clymer
3699[01/01/2015, 1:16:02 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah that guy
3700[01/01/2015, 1:16:03 AM] Ian Cheong: fuck him
3701[01/01/2015, 1:16:09 AM] Remy: that was acutally
3702[01/01/2015, 1:16:14 AM] Remy: One of the times I was a bad ally
3703[01/01/2015, 1:16:14 AM] Dina : Ian same as Misses Butts
3704[01/01/2015, 1:16:15 AM] Annie Kelly: I don't really know anything about him but know loads of people mad at him haha
3705[01/01/2015, 1:16:23 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I have some friends who don't seem to grasp the difference between "your opinion isn't required" and "you don't have the right to an opinion"
3706[01/01/2015, 1:16:32 AM] Remy: A woman was trying to inform me about Clymer and I doubted her and was all like "I don't see the proof tho where is the proo
3707[01/01/2015, 1:16:42 AM] live:riotarms: TFYC are probably the platonic ideal of the kind of male feminist you don't wanna be
3708[01/01/2015, 1:16:45 AM] Remy: Remy sticks their head in an oven
3709[01/01/2015, 1:16:50 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh Stephen
3710[01/01/2015, 1:16:51 AM] Athena Hollow: It's like, look, express your opinions all you like, but ffs, stop trying to act like you own the conversation or that your opinions are going to be the end-all be-all of opinions.
3711[01/01/2015, 1:17:01 AM] Remy: Yeah
3712[01/01/2015, 1:17:10 AM] Remy: I kick myself a lot
3713[01/01/2015, 1:17:14 AM] Remy: for a lot of reasons
3714[01/01/2015, 1:17:17 AM] Remy: I'm just a dummy
3715[01/01/2015, 1:17:20 AM] Ian Cheong: notallbhas did a good job explaining how Clymer is a bad ally.
3716[01/01/2015, 1:17:22 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the focus in feminism should always be on the voices of women (and nonbinary folks too, of course). as long as you recognize that & are cool with that, men are more than welcome as far as i'm concerned
3717[01/01/2015, 1:17:26 AM] Ian Cheong: pointing out to stuff he'd said
3718[01/01/2015, 1:17:38 AM] Remy: Has anyone else noticed notallbhas' account is gone?
3719[01/01/2015, 1:17:41 AM] live:riotarms: I think the point of an ally is to promote the ideas outside of the group they're allied with
3720[01/01/2015, 1:17:53 AM] Rob: Yeah.
3721[01/01/2015, 1:18:12 AM] live:riotarms: Like if you're a white guy and you're anti-racist don't tell black people how it really is
3722[01/01/2015, 1:18:13 AM] Athena Hollow: Knife: you're absolutely right on that one. The same friends I'm talking about don't talk to people who aren't feminists, about feminism, and get pissy when women say "Hey, um, we got this"
3723[01/01/2015, 1:18:13 AM] Ian Cheong: I am also not ok with using the sexual abuse he experienced as a child by his awful mom against him.
3724[01/01/2015, 1:18:21 AM] Ian Cheong: Some people were going after him for that
3725[01/01/2015, 1:18:28 AM] Ian Cheong: saying that he was 'likely to be a rapist' because his mom raped him
3726[01/01/2015, 1:18:31 AM] Athena Hollow: oh ffs.
3727[01/01/2015, 1:18:31 AM] Ian Cheong: that is just uncalled for
3728[01/01/2015, 1:18:35 AM] Rob: yeah, that's fucked up
3729[01/01/2015, 1:18:42 AM] Dina : um wtf
3730[01/01/2015, 1:18:54 AM] Dina : also Stephen you get a friendly roundhouse kick to the butt
3731[01/01/2015, 1:18:58 AM] live:riotarms: I did tell my black friend he was full of shit for thinking idris should only play a Bond villan though
3732[01/01/2015, 1:19:04 AM] Dina : but my leg is wrapped in plushes so
3733[01/01/2015, 1:19:08 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah that's dumb Knife lol
3734[01/01/2015, 1:19:11 AM] Ian Cheong: They cited some bullshit about how men who experience childhood trauma are most likely to commit that trauma onto others as adults.
3735[01/01/2015, 1:19:18 AM] Ian Cheong: And its like whoa there, you don't make that leap.
3736[01/01/2015, 1:19:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, I thought you were going to say your leg is stuck in your big hair. XD
3737[01/01/2015, 1:19:20 AM] Ian Cheong: that's demonizing victims
3738[01/01/2015, 1:19:23 AM] live:riotarms: It's dumb but it's how racism works
3739[01/01/2015, 1:19:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah, that's gross ian
3740[01/01/2015, 1:19:41 AM] Dina : Izzy it could be
3741[01/01/2015, 1:19:43 AM] Dina : ;-;
3742[01/01/2015, 1:19:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and spoilers: that same logic works re: women, too. virtually all women who sexually assault children were abused :\
3743[01/01/2015, 1:19:52 AM] Rob: I mean... there's a statistical possibility of it being more likely
3744[01/01/2015, 1:19:54 AM] Athena Hollow: There's a difference between that and telling a black person they have it X lol
3745[01/01/2015, 1:19:55 AM] Rob: but it's not like
3746[01/01/2015, 1:20:00 AM] Rob: 'if you are abused you will be an abuser'
3747[01/01/2015, 1:20:09 AM] Ian Cheong: yeah
3748[01/01/2015, 1:20:18 AM] live:riotarms: I think it's more like, if you've been abused you learn it as normalised behaviour
3749[01/01/2015, 1:20:22 AM] Rob: Yes
3750[01/01/2015, 1:20:24 AM] Rob: that
3751[01/01/2015, 1:20:26 AM] Remy: Dina: I deserve so many roundhouse kicks
3752[01/01/2015, 1:20:46 AM] live:riotarms: I was pretty abusive for a long time and it was because I'd lived in various kinds of abuse for a decade
3753[01/01/2015, 1:21:13 AM] live:riotarms: But being bitter and shitty is easy to do
3754[01/01/2015, 1:21:13 AM] Athena Hollow: what drives me nuts is the "Oh you work in porn? Were you abused as a child or something?"
3755[01/01/2015, 1:21:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/Redregon/status/550340743890739200 what the fuck is he on about
3756[01/01/2015, 1:21:18 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: this is making me nervous :\
3757[01/01/2015, 1:21:24 AM] live:riotarms: You don't need privilege, even
3758[01/01/2015, 1:21:24 AM] Rob: One of the reasons I never dated anyone until earlier this year is b/c I was afraid of being abusive
3759[01/01/2015, 1:22:26 AM] Annie Kelly: on a somewhat similar note did any of you see what that RidiculousCargo guy said to me last night, it was a really awful moment
3760[01/01/2015, 1:22:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. I finally did it! I pissed off GamerGate enough to care about me
3761[01/01/2015, 1:22:39 AM] Athena Hollow: Sarah: probably linking to dan's article LOL
3762[01/01/2015, 1:22:40 AM] Rob: What did he say?
3763[01/01/2015, 1:22:42 AM] Rob: and what, izzy?
3764[01/01/2015, 1:22:47 AM] Dina : what Athena said
3765[01/01/2015, 1:22:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): This tweet: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550095982524780545
3766[01/01/2015, 1:22:51 AM] Athena Hollow: I caught part of that Annie.
3767[01/01/2015, 1:22:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): has pissed off a lot of gaters
3768[01/01/2015, 1:22:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
3769[01/01/2015, 1:22:59 AM] Peter Coffin: mic dropped on Twitter re: sex positivity
3770[01/01/2015, 1:23:02 AM] Rob: heh!
3771[01/01/2015, 1:23:12 AM] Dina : it's like a 13yo thinking he discovered the meaning of life after watching that video about the Jesus illuminati
3772[01/01/2015, 1:23:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): also, this tweet: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550335299947999232
3773[01/01/2015, 1:23:46 AM] live:riotarms: Annie, what happened?
3774[01/01/2015, 1:23:56 AM] Annie Kelly: we were in a big convo all talking about how great eachother were, and then he said "if you don't take a compliment im gonna hit you" to another guy in it, I said something like "same you cant even hit back bc of FEMALE PRIVILEGE" or whatever
3775[01/01/2015, 1:24:14 AM] Annie Kelly: then he just totally flipped and was like "women don't hit me without facing consequences" or something
3776[01/01/2015, 1:24:28 AM] Ian Cheong: Wow gross.
3777[01/01/2015, 1:24:33 AM] live:riotarms: Ooh, big man
3778[01/01/2015, 1:24:40 AM] Annie Kelly: (not the guy we were talking to, the RidiculousCargo guy who started it all)
3779[01/01/2015, 1:25:01 AM] Annie Kelly: it was a woah, WTF moment for someone I really respected up until that point
3780[01/01/2015, 1:25:07 AM] Dina : uh
3781[01/01/2015, 1:25:10 AM] Dina : issues
3782[01/01/2015, 1:25:14 AM] Dina : more issues
3783[01/01/2015, 1:25:14 AM] Ian Cheong: No shit
3784[01/01/2015, 1:25:15 AM] Dina : than vogue
3785[01/01/2015, 1:25:23 AM] Dina : Dina  sasses
3786[01/01/2015, 1:25:29 AM] Annie Kelly: hahaha dina <3
3787[01/01/2015, 1:25:33 AM] Rob: Did he delete his account?
3788[01/01/2015, 1:25:34 AM] Dina : <3
3789[01/01/2015, 1:25:34 AM] Ian Cheong: I hate dudes like that
3790[01/01/2015, 1:26:26 AM] Annie Kelly: yeah, I kinda tried to explain why it was weird but I dunno if he got it, then he DMed me like "I'm really sorry, I respect you, I've revealed too much about myself gona delete my account now"
3791[01/01/2015, 1:26:35 AM] Dina : wtf
3792[01/01/2015, 1:26:38 AM] Athena Hollow: wow
3793[01/01/2015, 1:26:39 AM] Rob: yeah like. if the woman was my size or trained in fighting or was actually physically damaging me, then i'd strike back
3794[01/01/2015, 1:26:43 AM] Rob: but i'm like 6'0 and 280 lbs
3795[01/01/2015, 1:26:43 AM] live:riotarms: Annie, I gotta say, the time you told a gater to go have a hate wank and calm down was my favourite comeback of this whole sorry affair
3796[01/01/2015, 1:26:50 AM] Rob: yeah a lot of that is fat, but I could break someone pretty easily
3797[01/01/2015, 1:26:53 AM] Rob: I won't hit back unless I have to
3798[01/01/2015, 1:26:58 AM] live:riotarms: That's an... awkward DM
3799[01/01/2015, 1:27:04 AM] Ian Cheong: that is super awkward annie
3800[01/01/2015, 1:27:05 AM] Annie Kelly: hahahahaha thank you
3801[01/01/2015, 1:27:17 AM] Dina : though tbh I agree gender has no bearing and if you swing a punch you should be ready to receive one. I still think if you swing a punch you should be ready to get arrested as an option as well.
3802[01/01/2015, 1:27:26 AM] live:riotarms: You should only use violence if you're in danger is a good rule
3803[01/01/2015, 1:27:31 AM] Dina : Annie is that person 14
3804[01/01/2015, 1:27:39 AM] Annie Kelly: yeah i didn't know how to respond, especially since i had an ex who used to use ANYTHING physical from me as an excuse to hit me
3805[01/01/2015, 1:27:42 AM] Rob: Knife: pretty much
3806[01/01/2015, 1:27:48 AM] Annie Kelly: so i was a bit like "am i overreacting?"
3807[01/01/2015, 1:27:53 AM] Dina : Annie that's fucking awful
3808[01/01/2015, 1:27:56 AM] Dina : I'm so sorry
3809[01/01/2015, 1:27:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Only use violence if you're in danger, yes, I agree.
3810[01/01/2015, 1:28:00 AM] Ian Cheong: That is a good rule.
3811[01/01/2015, 1:28:06 AM] Ian Cheong: If someone slaps you, dont punch them. that's fucked up.
3812[01/01/2015, 1:28:09 AM] Rob: Yeah
3813[01/01/2015, 1:28:11 AM] Annie Kelly: yeah absolutely. it's a last resort, not a tit-for-tat
3814[01/01/2015, 1:28:23 AM] live:riotarms: A girl kicked me in the balls once when I said ska punk sucked, in front of her boyfriend
3815[01/01/2015, 1:28:37 AM] live:riotarms: I didn't to anything because what do you do?
3816[01/01/2015, 1:28:47 AM] Ian Cheong: What an awful person.
3817[01/01/2015, 1:28:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): In 8chan is the UID referring to each unique person?
3818[01/01/2015, 1:28:57 AM] live:riotarms: Yep
3819[01/01/2015, 1:28:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Yes Izzzy
3820[01/01/2015, 1:29:06 AM] Dina : Knife I would have cunt punted her
3821[01/01/2015, 1:29:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok. thanks
3822[01/01/2015, 1:29:14 AM] live:riotarms: That was the Darlington punk scene of 2001, though
3823[01/01/2015, 1:29:26 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. moments like this are when I want to yell out "QUIT BEING A FUCKING TWAT YOU GODDAMN USEFUL IDIOT" https://twitter.com/Verdius/status/550333433134993408
3824[01/01/2015, 1:29:31 AM] Annie Kelly: haha a lawless land
3825[01/01/2015, 1:29:42 AM] Ian Cheong: You know what my favorite video on youtube is
3826[01/01/2015, 1:29:45 AM] Ian Cheong: "how can she slap"
3827[01/01/2015, 1:29:53 AM] Ian Cheong: ok i lie its not my favorite
3828[01/01/2015, 1:29:59 AM] Ian Cheong: but its pretty terrible.
3829[01/01/2015, 1:30:03 AM] live:riotarms: Dina: I was sliding down a bus shelter wondering if she'd done permanent damage
3830[01/01/2015, 1:30:13 AM] Annie Kelly: is it another one of them "equal fights" shit?
3831[01/01/2015, 1:30:15 AM] live:riotarms: How can she slap is a guilty pleasure yeah
3832[01/01/2015, 1:30:17 AM] Dina : holy shit
3833[01/01/2015, 1:30:32 AM] Ian Cheong: it's an indian reality show where a girl slaps the dude and he flips out and slaps her back.
3834[01/01/2015, 1:30:37 AM] Ian Cheong: and then he gets roundly trashed by everyone
3835[01/01/2015, 1:30:38 AM] live:riotarms: At the end where he's just sort of sobbing it
3836[01/01/2015, 1:30:57 AM] Ian Cheong: meanwhile he is screaming "HOW CAN SHE SLAP"
3837[01/01/2015, 1:31:03 AM] Annie Kelly: woahhh
3838[01/01/2015, 1:31:10 AM] Ian Cheong: ill find it, gimme a sec.
3839[01/01/2015, 1:31:15 AM] Rob: I mean tbf
3840[01/01/2015, 1:31:20 AM] Rob: i don't think women should go around hitting men either
3841[01/01/2015, 1:31:22 AM] Ian Cheong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4akMaeZ0-k
3842[01/01/2015, 1:31:33 AM] Rob: b/c there is a problem w/ male victims of domestic abuse, too. not that MRAs actually truly care about that
3843[01/01/2015, 1:31:54 AM] Annie Kelly: no, I wanna make clear I absolutely don't think women should
3844[01/01/2015, 1:32:57 AM] Annie Kelly: but as I say my ex used to like back me against a wall screaming at me, then when i tried to push him away would punch me out and be like "what? you did it first"
3845[01/01/2015, 1:32:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): BOOM: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550343767434088448
3846[01/01/2015, 1:33:09 AM] Annie Kelly: so i'm very verrryyy wary of guys who get into the equal fights rhetoric
3847[01/01/2015, 1:33:14 AM] Annie Kelly: maybe too wary, idk
3848[01/01/2015, 1:33:14 AM] Athena Hollow: i smack my husband, but not like... smack smack.... like a "Hey, you're being an asshole, here's my hand hitting your chest/shoulder, quit it" smack lol
3849[01/01/2015, 1:33:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I should have made the screenshots more square, but whatever. if you click on them, you can actually read what they say
3850[01/01/2015, 1:33:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3851[01/01/2015, 1:34:01 AM] live:riotarms: I knew a male domestic abuse victim at my last job
3852[01/01/2015, 1:34:13 AM] live:riotarms: It's a different problem
3853[01/01/2015, 1:34:49 AM] live:riotarms: Most men don't live in fear of sexual assault but it happens situationally
3854[01/01/2015, 1:35:07 AM] Ian Cheong: "equal rights, equal lefts" is something assholes tell themselves to justify beating women.
3855[01/01/2015, 1:35:25 AM] live:riotarms: And again, the idea men are superior to women ingrained in the culture makes it much harder for them to get help
3856[01/01/2015, 1:35:25 AM] Annie Kelly: that's unfortunately my take on it too
3857[01/01/2015, 1:35:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ^
3858[01/01/2015, 1:36:01 AM] Annie Kelly: Paul Elam's article fucked me up bc I just knew the kind of guys who'd be reading it
3859[01/01/2015, 1:36:02 AM] live:riotarms: So it's actually something more feminism would help, eventually
3860[01/01/2015, 1:36:04 AM] Rob: HUGS ANNIE
3861[01/01/2015, 1:36:24 AM] Annie Kelly: thank you rob :)
3862[01/01/2015, 1:37:20 AM] Rob: <3
3863[01/01/2015, 1:37:22 AM] Annie Kelly: also izzy just clicked, you absolutely served that dude haha
3864[01/01/2015, 1:37:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hehe <3
3865[01/01/2015, 1:37:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :)
3866[01/01/2015, 1:37:57 AM] live:riotarms: I wonder if it would be useful to work out an average of UIDs over a week
3867[01/01/2015, 1:38:09 AM] live:riotarms: Try and size them up again
3868[01/01/2015, 1:38:14 AM] Annie Kelly: i keep reading these as IUDs not gonna lie guys
3869[01/01/2015, 1:38:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3870[01/01/2015, 1:38:21 AM] Ian Cheong: hahaha
3871[01/01/2015, 1:38:26 AM] live:riotarms: I really want to know how many are left
3872[01/01/2015, 1:38:27 AM] Annie Kelly: ethics in birth control
3873[01/01/2015, 1:38:41 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3874[01/01/2015, 1:38:50 AM] Rob: My girlfriend tried to explain the actual science behind IUDs to me like 3 times and i just said "shut up, it's magic"
3875[01/01/2015, 1:39:02 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
3876[01/01/2015, 1:39:05 AM] Ian Cheong: It blocks cum.
3877[01/01/2015, 1:39:06 AM] Annie Kelly: rob, i have one and its honestly magic to me as well
3878[01/01/2015, 1:39:11 AM] Rob: she has a mirena i think
3879[01/01/2015, 1:39:12 AM] Athena Hollow: and irritates the uterus
3880[01/01/2015, 1:39:13 AM] Annie Kelly: i have NO clue how it works
3881[01/01/2015, 1:39:17 AM] Rob: I just picture Gandalf standing in the uterus going
3882[01/01/2015, 1:39:21 AM] Rob: YOU SHALL NOT PASS
3883[01/01/2015, 1:39:21 AM] Athena Hollow: and some have the birth control meds
3884[01/01/2015, 1:39:25 AM] Annie Kelly: SAME! sisters of the mirena
3885[01/01/2015, 1:39:26 AM] Rob: to a spermrog
3886[01/01/2015, 1:39:30 AM] Athena Hollow: that works like taking the pill :)
3887[01/01/2015, 1:39:38 AM] live:riotarms: Where's the ring in that scenario?
3888[01/01/2015, 1:39:43 AM] Athena Hollow: cockring.
3889[01/01/2015, 1:39:44 AM] Rob: it's the anus
3890[01/01/2015, 1:39:46 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahah
3891[01/01/2015, 1:39:50 AM] Annie Kelly: ahahaha athena
3892[01/01/2015, 1:40:44 AM] Athena Hollow: we use rhythm/pullout because it's worked for 11 years lol but at this point I want to just get my tubes tied -_-
3893[01/01/2015, 1:41:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Another Gater served: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550345808436940800
3894[01/01/2015, 1:41:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): this time with better screenshots, lol
3895[01/01/2015, 1:41:52 AM] Annie Kelly: lol all the women in my family get hysterectomies in their 40s for medical reasons, ive often considered just doing it now to save time
3896[01/01/2015, 1:42:01 AM] Athena Hollow: I can't really carry if I do get pregnant again due to cervical cancer surgery (found that out w/ my last miscarriage a few years ago) so it's just dangerous as shit to get pregnant again. plus, I'm pushin 30, my husband is in his mid 30s, at this rate I'll be 39 when my daughter is 18. Good time to not have anymore kids.
3897[01/01/2015, 1:42:11 AM] Athena Hollow: Yea, same w/ mine.
3898[01/01/2015, 1:42:25 AM] Athena Hollow: but that's money and i gots no insurance sooooooo yeah. :-/
3899[01/01/2015, 1:42:39 AM] Annie Kelly: oh America : (
3900[01/01/2015, 1:42:47 AM] Rob: :C
3901[01/01/2015, 1:42:51 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm not having any kids.
3902[01/01/2015, 1:43:04 AM] live:riotarms: Yeah, I'm not either
3903[01/01/2015, 1:43:10 AM] Annie Kelly: the No1 thing people said to me when i went to the US was "but how can you go there?? what if you get sick? YOU HAVE TO PAY"
3904[01/01/2015, 1:43:18 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
3905[01/01/2015, 1:43:24 AM] Annie Kelly: it was just completely alien to everyone here
3906[01/01/2015, 1:43:42 AM] Rob: Yeah, my GF and I talked about 'well if we ever got married, kids?' and both of us at the same time were like 'FUCK NO'
3907[01/01/2015, 1:43:45 AM] Athena Hollow: and sadly, our gross GOP politics are seeping outside the US now.
3908[01/01/2015, 1:43:47 AM] Ian Cheong: I enjoy my life too much to have any kids around.
3909[01/01/2015, 1:43:48 AM] Athena Hollow: sorry about that :-/
3910[01/01/2015, 1:43:57 AM] Rob: We'll have cats and maybe a dog.
3911[01/01/2015, 1:44:03 AM] Athena Hollow: I'd help get rid of them but I'm stuck in a red state -_-
3912[01/01/2015, 1:44:07 AM] Ian Cheong: I have a dog and even that is a big responsibility
3913[01/01/2015, 1:44:09 AM] Annie Kelly: yes! kittens are so much better than babies imo
3914[01/01/2015, 1:44:12 AM] Ian Cheong: Plus dogs are cute and don't shit themselves.
3915[01/01/2015, 1:44:27 AM] live:riotarms: My childhood dog did, sadly
3916[01/01/2015, 1:45:09 AM] Annie Kelly: im fairly certain my cat just doesn't shit
3917[01/01/2015, 1:45:19 AM] Annie Kelly: like I've never seen her do it ever
3918[01/01/2015, 1:45:24 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3919[01/01/2015, 1:45:28 AM] Annie Kelly: i think its an establishment lie that they do
3920[01/01/2015, 1:45:30 AM] Athena Hollow: she indoor/outdoor?
3921[01/01/2015, 1:45:36 AM] Annie Kelly: outdoor
3922[01/01/2015, 1:45:38 AM] Athena Hollow: ahhh
3923[01/01/2015, 1:45:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, my cat shits. and he stinks up the whole house
3924[01/01/2015, 1:45:47 AM] Athena Hollow: XD My cats do when I get them wet food
3925[01/01/2015, 1:45:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Thank God for Frebreeze
3926[01/01/2015, 1:45:58 AM] Annie Kelly: p much all cats are outdoor here, that's another thing people find weird about america
3927[01/01/2015, 1:46:01 AM] Athena Hollow: btw, amazon has some of the best clumping litter that hides smells!
3928[01/01/2015, 1:46:23 AM] live:riotarms: Annie, I had grandparents in the barbican who had indoor cats
3929[01/01/2015, 1:46:23 AM] Athena Hollow: there's a lot of weird cat diseases here :-/
3930[01/01/2015, 1:46:32 AM] live:riotarms: All breeds, so they were mad as fuck
3931[01/01/2015, 1:46:34 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah cats get sick here super easy
3932[01/01/2015, 1:46:39 AM] Rob: One of my girlfriend's cats gets really mad if she goes on a trip for a few days, and he ends up pooping on her bed to teach her a lesson.
3933[01/01/2015, 1:46:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Kitty Leukimia is very common
3934[01/01/2015, 1:46:47 AM] Athena Hollow: and kitty aids.
3935[01/01/2015, 1:46:48 AM] Annie Kelly: really? wow i didn't know that
3936[01/01/2015, 1:46:58 AM] Ian Cheong: kitty leukimia is a transmittable virus weirdly.
3937[01/01/2015, 1:47:02 AM] Athena Hollow: Sorry kitty HIV
3938[01/01/2015, 1:47:08 AM] Annie Kelly: also LOL rob
3939[01/01/2015, 1:47:12 AM] Rob: Yeah, my first cat had kitty leukimia
3940[01/01/2015, 1:47:22 AM] Remy: it's cold as fuck here I'm gonna crawl in bed and play pokemon until I fall asleep
3941[01/01/2015, 1:47:27 AM] Rob: So when my parents put her down, they had to clean the FUCK out of the entire house and wait like a month or two before they got a new cat for me
3942[01/01/2015, 1:47:29 AM] live:riotarms: Shower, brb
3943[01/01/2015, 1:47:30 AM] Athena Hollow: cya stephen <3
3944[01/01/2015, 1:47:34 AM] Annie Kelly: bye Stephen!
3945[01/01/2015, 1:47:35 AM] Remy: <3
3946[01/01/2015, 1:47:35 AM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, freezin balls here too
3947[01/01/2015, 1:47:38 AM] Rob: Later stephen
3948[01/01/2015, 1:47:38 AM] Ian Cheong: cya stephen
3949[01/01/2015, 1:47:40 AM] live:riotarms: Later
3950[01/01/2015, 1:47:46 AM] Peter Coffin: see you stephen
3951[01/01/2015, 1:47:51 AM] Dina : lil bro will not stop listening to Shmurda
3952[01/01/2015, 1:47:53 AM] Dina : help
3953[01/01/2015, 1:47:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3954[01/01/2015, 1:47:59 AM] Dina : bye Stephen!
3955[01/01/2015, 1:48:04 AM] Rob: Dina, just start playing the frozen soundtrack
3956[01/01/2015, 1:48:08 AM] Dina : ugh no
3957[01/01/2015, 1:48:19 AM] Annie Kelly: hahaha
3958[01/01/2015, 1:48:21 AM] Rob: i like frozen :C
3959[01/01/2015, 1:48:22 AM] Peter Coffin: there's collateral damage with that plan
3960[01/01/2015, 1:48:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Rob doesn't care... what they're going to say
3961[01/01/2015, 1:48:39 AM] Annie Kelly: Let It Go was crazy over-played, it set me against frozen before i even watched it
3962[01/01/2015, 1:48:40 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. this cold weather is tearing my knees up :-/
3963[01/01/2015, 1:48:56 AM] Athena Hollow: i am so glad I didn't listen to the radio or, like, go anywhere when it first came out LOL
3964[01/01/2015, 1:49:00 AM] Athena Hollow: because I <3 it all still lol
3965[01/01/2015, 1:49:09 AM] Peter Coffin: frozen is a decent movie. it painted itself as super liberal but it's not so much
3966[01/01/2015, 1:49:14 AM] Peter Coffin: it's some liberal
3967[01/01/2015, 1:49:20 AM] Peter Coffin: not very liberal
3968[01/01/2015, 1:49:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Liberal?
3969[01/01/2015, 1:49:30 AM] Peter Coffin: doesn't do much world building
3970[01/01/2015, 1:49:33 AM] Peter Coffin: either
3971[01/01/2015, 1:49:33 AM] Athena Hollow: I think we painted it that way, tbh. I think Disney just wanted a non-typical step in a different direction
3972[01/01/2015, 1:49:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3973[01/01/2015, 1:49:37 AM] Dina : I want some snuggles dammit
3974[01/01/2015, 1:49:43 AM] Dina : the kind I can't get at home
3975[01/01/2015, 1:49:49 AM] Dina : T_T this hair is in the WAY
3976[01/01/2015, 1:49:52 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
3977[01/01/2015, 1:50:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, did you share a pic? or your hair?
3978[01/01/2015, 1:50:04 AM] Peter Coffin: my issue with it is the lack of the world building. it's a fun kids movie though
3979[01/01/2015, 1:50:06 AM] Dina : lol eff no
3980[01/01/2015, 1:50:14 AM] Dina : I'm trying to subdue it now haha
3981[01/01/2015, 1:50:15 AM] Athena Hollow: I <3 disney flicks.
3982[01/01/2015, 1:50:16 AM] Rob: i wanna see!
3983[01/01/2015, 1:50:20 AM] Annie Kelly: right I NEED to go get ready for work
3984[01/01/2015, 1:50:26 AM] Rob: Later, annie!
3985[01/01/2015, 1:50:26 AM] Dina : I reduced volume by 50%
3986[01/01/2015, 1:50:29 AM] Peter Coffin: world building is very important in a story for me
3987[01/01/2015, 1:50:29 AM] Annie Kelly: happy new year guyyyys xxx
3988[01/01/2015, 1:50:32 AM] Dina : bye Annie!
3989[01/01/2015, 1:50:35 AM] Athena Hollow: I still know all the words to pretty much every disney movie song from their animated (mostly pricness) lines
3990[01/01/2015, 1:50:36 AM] Dina : Happy new year!
3991[01/01/2015, 1:50:40 AM] Athena Hollow: cya annie!
3992[01/01/2015, 1:50:42 AM] Peter Coffin: bye annie, happy new year!
3993[01/01/2015, 1:50:54 AM] Dina : my favorite disney song is Daddy Would You Like Some Sausages
3994[01/01/2015, 1:51:00 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
3995[01/01/2015, 1:51:03 AM] Dina : from the classic Freddie
3996[01/01/2015, 1:51:05 AM] Peter Coffin: HA
3997[01/01/2015, 1:51:11 AM] Peter Coffin: tom green has me blocked on twitter
3998[01/01/2015, 1:51:19 AM] Peter Coffin: also he's become a big shit over the last decade
3999[01/01/2015, 1:51:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): .... FACEPALM .... this person did not get my sarcasm at all, even with the screenshots showing it was more than 2 people... God help them: https://twitter.com/ross_lumbus/status/550347790501421056
4000[01/01/2015, 1:51:32 AM] Peter Coffin: does standup now, it's mainly technophobia
4001[01/01/2015, 1:51:45 AM] Peter Coffin: which is weird because he embraced the internet just ahead of most people
4002[01/01/2015, 1:51:56 AM] Peter Coffin: but eh
4003[01/01/2015, 1:52:07 AM] Peter Coffin: he's funny.
4004[01/01/2015, 1:52:19 AM] Dina : I dun like
4005[01/01/2015, 1:52:20 AM] Peter Coffin: not as a standup
4006[01/01/2015, 1:52:28 AM] Peter Coffin: his old chaotic things
4007[01/01/2015, 1:52:34 AM] Rob: Hrm. Do I want to play more secret of mana, or do i want to play some final fantasy tactics or shadowrun
4008[01/01/2015, 1:52:36 AM] Athena Hollow: I thought he was funny when I was like... 14....>_>
4009[01/01/2015, 1:52:37 AM] Peter Coffin: he is possibly one of the least funny standups ever
4010[01/01/2015, 1:52:47 AM] Peter Coffin: then don't watch his standup
4011[01/01/2015, 1:52:57 AM] Peter Coffin: imagine that minus any charm plus technophobia
4012[01/01/2015, 1:53:01 AM] Athena Hollow: I haven't thought he was funny since I started having sex regularly though LOL
4013[01/01/2015, 1:53:04 AM] Peter Coffin: and I'm sure you'll say there is no charm
4014[01/01/2015, 1:53:09 AM] Peter Coffin: so negative charm
4015[01/01/2015, 1:53:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Who are we talking about? Dane Cook?
4016[01/01/2015, 1:53:32 AM] Peter Coffin: tom green
4017[01/01/2015, 1:53:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah
4018[01/01/2015, 1:53:36 AM] Athena Hollow: same person.
4019[01/01/2015, 1:53:38 AM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
4020[01/01/2015, 1:53:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4021[01/01/2015, 1:53:49 AM] Rob: Dane Cook ugh
4022[01/01/2015, 1:53:58 AM] Peter Coffin: I'd argue dane cook can at least be funny while doing standup. it's rare but it's possibke
4023[01/01/2015, 1:54:00 AM] Rob: I remember freshman year of college, EVERYONE LIKED DANE COOK
4024[01/01/2015, 1:54:01 AM] Peter Coffin: tom green on the other hand
4025[01/01/2015, 1:54:05 AM] Rob: And would listen to his fucking CDs repeatedly.
4026[01/01/2015, 1:54:07 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah when he's doing everyone else's jokes maybe.
4027[01/01/2015, 1:54:26 AM] Peter Coffin: TBH, I hate standup comedy because I hate that world
4028[01/01/2015, 1:54:36 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh you just havne't found the good stuff LOL
4029[01/01/2015, 1:54:44 AM] Athena Hollow: there's really good stand up comedians that aren't total shit
4030[01/01/2015, 1:54:46 AM] Peter Coffin: I hate when "stealing jokes" is the big issue and not "being a terrible person"
4031[01/01/2015, 1:54:48 AM] Athena Hollow: they're just not as popular.
4032[01/01/2015, 1:54:49 AM] Peter Coffin: oh I know
4033[01/01/2015, 1:54:53 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm not saying there aren't
4034[01/01/2015, 1:54:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I love Gabriel Iglesias
4035[01/01/2015, 1:54:58 AM] Athena Hollow: YES
4036[01/01/2015, 1:55:00 AM] Peter Coffin: I'm saying I hate that world with everything in me
4037[01/01/2015, 1:55:06 AM] Peter Coffin: he is very funny, yes
4038[01/01/2015, 1:55:16 AM] Athena Hollow: and yes I agree Peter.
4039[01/01/2015, 1:55:23 AM] Athena Hollow: That's why I hate Tosh.
4040[01/01/2015, 1:55:36 AM] Dina : *reading The Raven* dese Poes ain't loyal
4041[01/01/2015, 1:55:44 AM] Dina : ^my standup
4042[01/01/2015, 1:55:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): omg
4043[01/01/2015, 1:55:49 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
4044[01/01/2015, 1:55:53 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4045[01/01/2015, 1:56:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He has a weird delivery style, but I also really love john mulaney
4046[01/01/2015, 1:56:08 AM] Dina : I won't be quitting my day job anytime soon
4047[01/01/2015, 1:56:16 AM] Peter Coffin: I wanted to do standup for a while, but most of what I wrote was me just shitting on standup comedy
4048[01/01/2015, 1:56:31 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4049[01/01/2015, 1:56:47 AM] Peter Coffin: realized it wasn't for me
4050[01/01/2015, 1:57:04 AM] Peter Coffin: I needed to do something where you're allowed to shit on the royalty
4051[01/01/2015, 1:57:16 AM] Peter Coffin: because fuck the elite
4052[01/01/2015, 1:57:34 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck gate keeping
4053[01/01/2015, 1:57:55 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck anyone who shits on people working their ass off to try to do something
4054[01/01/2015, 2:04:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL. Such feelz over realz. I told a GGer that I can't take them seriously when they use "anti-gamer" and "pro-corruption". A bunch of GGers came to their defense and said they couldn't take me seriously because I use "#StopGamerGate"
4055[01/01/2015, 2:04:55 AM] Tesseract: nou.jpg
4056[01/01/2015, 2:05:30 AM] Dina : QQ.gif
4057[01/01/2015, 2:05:36 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4058[01/01/2015, 2:06:04 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
4059[01/01/2015, 2:06:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): please kill me : https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550352052577001472
4060[01/01/2015, 2:06:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): this GGer is so dumb
4061[01/01/2015, 2:06:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): like, I can't comprehend
4062[01/01/2015, 2:07:16 AM] Athena Hollow: god he is putting the hashtag in literally every post LOL
4063[01/01/2015, 2:07:23 AM] Athena Hollow: it's people like that as to why the tag hasn't died entirely.
4064[01/01/2015, 2:07:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): #GamerGate I
4065[01/01/2015, 2:07:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): #GamerGate hate
4066[01/01/2015, 2:07:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): #GamerGate you
4067[01/01/2015, 2:07:35 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4068[01/01/2015, 2:07:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's like Stevie from Malcolm in the Middle
4069[01/01/2015, 2:08:07 AM] Rob: haha
4070[01/01/2015, 2:08:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/1lb_cake/status/550351784569348096 report that
4071[01/01/2015, 2:09:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GGers actually doing something good?
4072[01/01/2015, 2:09:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Reported
4073[01/01/2015, 2:15:15 AM] Dina : reported
4074[01/01/2015, 2:15:27 AM] Athena Hollow: this is going to end well -_- https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/550354127742857216
4075[01/01/2015, 2:16:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): There she goes again, being impulsive.
4076[01/01/2015, 2:16:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Fun
4077[01/01/2015, 2:16:37 AM] Rob: What did it say? she deleted it
4078[01/01/2015, 2:16:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it was deleted
4079[01/01/2015, 2:16:40 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah
4080[01/01/2015, 2:16:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "GG on @Spacekatgal: Tranny scum. Can't have views on feminism. TG community on @spacekatgal: CIS Scum. Can't have views on TG rights."
4081[01/01/2015, 2:17:12 AM] Rob: Oh dear.
4082[01/01/2015, 2:17:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. I understand what she is trying to say, but that was worded REALLY poorly
4083[01/01/2015, 2:17:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): REALLY poorly
4084[01/01/2015, 2:18:13 AM] Dina : uuuuh wtf
4085[01/01/2015, 2:18:16 AM] Dina : Bri
4086[01/01/2015, 2:18:20 AM] Rob: Rob rubs temples.
4087[01/01/2015, 2:18:26 AM] Athena Hollow: apparently a lot of trans people feel Helen Lewis is a transphobe (I don't know anything about her so I defer to better judgement for that) and she said to not call her that -_-
4088[01/01/2015, 2:19:21 AM] Dina : hair 60% down
4089[01/01/2015, 2:19:37 AM] Dina : approaching human levels of poofiness steadily
4090[01/01/2015, 2:19:47 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4091[01/01/2015, 2:20:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
4092[01/01/2015, 2:20:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, Rob: https://twitter.com/no_genius/status/550338802271932418
4093[01/01/2015, 2:21:22 AM] Rob: HAHAHA
4094[01/01/2015, 2:21:35 AM] Rob: I loved how many people jumped on Sargon over that shit
4095[01/01/2015, 2:23:25 AM] live:riotarms: Heading out guys
4096[01/01/2015, 2:23:34 AM] live:riotarms: Have a lovely fucking new year
4097[01/01/2015, 2:23:39 AM] Athena Hollow: cya!
4098[01/01/2015, 2:23:42 AM] Dina : You too, Knife!
4099[01/01/2015, 2:23:45 AM] Rob: Later, knife!
4100[01/01/2015, 2:23:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): see you next year! (sorry)
4101[01/01/2015, 2:23:56 AM] Rob: TIME FOR BOOZE AND FINAL FANTASY TACTICS! Bec ause my groceries were finally delivered \o/
4102[01/01/2015, 2:24:00 AM] Dina : I should probably start slathering my war paint on
4103[01/01/2015, 2:25:12 AM] Dina : Dina  dunks head in concealer
4104[01/01/2015, 2:25:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4105[01/01/2015, 2:25:22 AM] Dina : perfect.
4106[01/01/2015, 2:25:23 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4107[01/01/2015, 2:26:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I imaged that like a cartoon. all the makeup laid out flat, in reverse layers. and then you push your face against it. and your makeup is done!
4108[01/01/2015, 2:26:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dina, you'll have to teach me to makeup someday
4109[01/01/2015, 2:26:49 AM] Rob: I pictured Dina basically reenacting the scene in Predator where Arnold covers himself in mud
4110[01/01/2015, 2:26:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4111[01/01/2015, 2:27:23 AM] Dina : LOL
4112[01/01/2015, 2:27:27 AM] Rob: ^_^ bows
4113[01/01/2015, 2:27:40 AM] Dina : Sarah I would love to! Make up is super fun!
4114[01/01/2015, 2:27:50 AM] Dina : please don't actually dunk your head in concealer
4115[01/01/2015, 2:27:53 AM] Rob: And one day, Kav, Athena, and I will teach all of you to drink
4116[01/01/2015, 2:27:59 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4117[01/01/2015, 2:28:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
4118[01/01/2015, 2:28:08 AM] Dina : wait Kav is in here?
4119[01/01/2015, 2:28:14 AM] Dina : Which one is Kav?
4120[01/01/2015, 2:28:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): She is but not regularly
4121[01/01/2015, 2:28:17 AM] Rob: Yeah but she's busy traveling so ehs' not as active on skype
4122[01/01/2015, 2:28:24 AM] Dina : oh ok
4123[01/01/2015, 2:28:27 AM] Peter Coffin: kiratails I think
4124[01/01/2015, 2:28:33 AM] Rob: I talk to her on twitter most often
4125[01/01/2015, 2:29:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's so cool when we add someone new and they fangirl over all the people in here :3
4126[01/01/2015, 2:29:13 AM] Rob: and on FB once or twice
4127[01/01/2015, 2:29:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): we are all fans of each other
4128[01/01/2015, 2:29:20 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4129[01/01/2015, 2:29:28 AM] Rob: I'm a fan of me, which is why I buy myself presents like booze
4130[01/01/2015, 2:29:33 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
4131[01/01/2015, 2:30:12 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i wish we could get jenni in here <3 there was someone else i wanted to invite too but i blanked
4132[01/01/2015, 2:30:17 AM] Rob: jenni's awesome.
4133[01/01/2015, 2:30:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Arthur never got back to you?
4134[01/01/2015, 2:30:34 AM] Rob: i never have any idea of someone who'd be good to add
4135[01/01/2015, 2:30:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AMIB would be awesome, too
4136[01/01/2015, 2:30:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): but he declined
4137[01/01/2015, 2:30:50 AM] Tesseract: don't add anyone until we switch to not skype
4138[01/01/2015, 2:31:18 AM] Dina : (Jetta is awesome too)
4139[01/01/2015, 2:31:24 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: arthur never replied. i didn't want to keep bothering him
4140[01/01/2015, 2:31:24 AM] Dina : (but I'm biased)
4141[01/01/2015, 2:31:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Bri is really butting heads with the trans community. :/
4142[01/01/2015, 2:31:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what's happening now izzy?
4143[01/01/2015, 2:31:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/Quinnae_Moon/status/550358414862610432
4144[01/01/2015, 2:31:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my vote is still for staying on skype but requiring people disable logging
4145[01/01/2015, 2:31:53 AM] Rob: like the only other person I really know who is active against GG sometimes is ian boudreau
4146[01/01/2015, 2:32:01 AM] Dina : I vote Skype too
4147[01/01/2015, 2:32:08 AM] Dina : most secure
4148[01/01/2015, 2:32:19 AM] Rob: Skype's more convenient for me but I'll do whatever everyone else wants to b/c I don't really care
4149[01/01/2015, 2:32:24 AM] Dina : @jetta_rae u guise
4150[01/01/2015, 2:32:28 AM] Dina : u guise...
4151[01/01/2015, 2:32:35 AM] Dina : *tiny voice*
4152[01/01/2015, 2:32:40 AM] Rob: :D <3
4153[01/01/2015, 2:32:45 AM] Dina : <3
4154[01/01/2015, 2:32:54 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i don't know jetta that well but i trust your judgment :)
4155[01/01/2015, 2:33:33 AM] Dina : nah wait till you get to know her
4156[01/01/2015, 2:33:36 AM] Dina : she's super cool
4157[01/01/2015, 2:33:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOLOLOL: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/
4158[01/01/2015, 2:33:50 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: does anyone have a link to the helen lewis piece? izzy?
4159[01/01/2015, 2:33:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): EVERYTHING MISREPRESENTS GG, except for GG itself, says GG
4160[01/01/2015, 2:34:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, i'll check.
4161[01/01/2015, 2:34:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: [–]jMerliN19k get 7 points an hour ago 
4162#StopGamerGate2014 never once has ever been above #GamerGate, nor has it ever trended. 
4163
4164hahahaah what. i remember them being SO PISSED that stopgg2014 was trending #1
4165[01/01/2015, 2:34:46 AM] Athena Hollow: wow. So Zoe's jumped from "fucked 5 guys to get ahead" to now "10 guys to get ahead"
4166[01/01/2015, 2:34:54 AM] Athena Hollow: it's the magical increasing vagina usage.
4167[01/01/2015, 2:35:04 AM] Dina : u mad bros
4168[01/01/2015, 2:35:16 AM] Rob: SCHROEDINGER'S BEDPOST NOTCHES
4169[01/01/2015, 2:35:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Doesn't matter, all that matters is she won't have sex with ME --GG
4170[01/01/2015, 2:35:16 AM] Dina : bros be sad they can't get laid
4171[01/01/2015, 2:35:19 AM] Rob: or something
4172[01/01/2015, 2:35:20 AM] Athena Hollow: it's like hearing your senile grandpa tell a story about catching a fish THIIIIIIIIS big
4173[01/01/2015, 2:35:36 AM] Dina : blame vajayjay, blame vajayjay <- rock the casbah tune
4174[01/01/2015, 2:36:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550359783946321920
4175[01/01/2015, 2:37:26 AM] Dina : 9___9
4176[01/01/2015, 2:37:33 AM] Dina : dese guys
4177[01/01/2015, 2:37:35 AM] Dina : I swear
4178[01/01/2015, 2:37:43 AM] Peter Coffin: they never don't fuck it up immediately
4179[01/01/2015, 2:38:38 AM] Athena Hollow: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/cnaim4g
4180[01/01/2015, 2:38:45 AM] Athena Hollow: signed my ban warrant from kia LOL
4181[01/01/2015, 2:39:19 AM] Tesseract: they won't ban you, just downvote you to hell and then claim they support free speech because they didn't ban you
4182[01/01/2015, 2:39:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): BUT THEY WILL BAN KIWIKKU!? WTF IS THIS SHIT
4183[01/01/2015, 2:39:43 AM] Tesseract: hahahahaha
4184[01/01/2015, 2:40:19 AM] Peter Coffin: meritocracy
4185[01/01/2015, 2:40:21 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
4186[01/01/2015, 2:40:23 AM] Rob: Poor Kiwikku
4187[01/01/2015, 2:40:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He got unbanned yesterday or the day before
4188[01/01/2015, 2:40:35 AM] Rob: He's like GG's little brother, tagging along trying to be cool
4189[01/01/2015, 2:40:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ^
4190[01/01/2015, 2:41:01 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/ordinal/status/550360773193891840 rofl good point re: the pol pot. if he called the guy hitler, his followers would've been confused and thought he was complimenting them
4191[01/01/2015, 2:41:08 AM] Rob: and gg's just like "hey kiwikku, if you eat these worms then we'll let you drink our suuuuuper cool natty lights" and kiwikku is like "OKAY GUYS" and he does and then they just laugh at him
4192[01/01/2015, 2:41:22 AM] Rob: and kiwikku just runs back home in tears and cries in the laundry room
4193[01/01/2015, 2:41:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
4194[01/01/2015, 2:41:41 AM] Athena Hollow: lolol
4195[01/01/2015, 2:42:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Which specific tweet from Bri started this whole headbutting with the trans community going on right now with Bri?
4196[01/01/2015, 2:42:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Seems a lot of people want her to apologize for something
4197[01/01/2015, 2:43:39 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/550350565168128000
4198[01/01/2015, 2:44:09 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/550350737772146688
4199[01/01/2015, 2:44:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: did anyone find the Helen Lewis comment/article?
4200[01/01/2015, 2:44:30 AM] Rob: I know Helen Lewis does have a history of transphobic stuff
4201[01/01/2015, 2:44:36 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/549953400855855104
4202[01/01/2015, 2:44:36 AM] Dina : ok Brianna no
4203[01/01/2015, 2:44:50 AM] Rob: but there are a lot of feminists who do
4204[01/01/2015, 2:44:52 AM] Rob: big and small
4205[01/01/2015, 2:44:58 AM] Rob: and they rarely get called on it
4206[01/01/2015, 2:45:02 AM] Rob: By the public at large
4207[01/01/2015, 2:45:06 AM] Rob: so I'm wondering if she just doesn't know?
4208[01/01/2015, 2:45:32 AM] Athena Hollow: in this particular instance, I get what Helen is saying - she's going from a journalistic angle, but if she has a history of transphobic stuff then she should probably just not have said anything at all
4209[01/01/2015, 2:45:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. Where's Zoe? I need to show her this: https://twitter.com/schalart/status/550361925021089792
4210[01/01/2015, 2:45:40 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i don't know helen lewis's history. but that comment alone (though i disagree with it) certainly wasn't transphobic, imo
4211[01/01/2015, 2:45:46 AM] Dina : no I fee like Bri has a weird tendency to co opt the struggle du jour
4212[01/01/2015, 2:45:49 AM] Athena Hollow: i think it's because of her history
4213[01/01/2015, 2:45:49 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: agree, athena
4214[01/01/2015, 2:45:55 AM] Dina : but maybe I'm just being a bitch
4215[01/01/2015, 2:45:57 AM] Athena Hollow: which i also don't know
4216[01/01/2015, 2:46:19 AM] Athena Hollow: I think Bri likes to be an ally, and aknowledges the fact that she has the reach to get the message out there
4217[01/01/2015, 2:46:25 AM] Athena Hollow: but unknowingly speaks over those people
4218[01/01/2015, 2:46:34 AM] Athena Hollow: like those "bad" feminist dudes we were talking about.
4219[01/01/2015, 2:46:39 AM] Dina : speaks over is a great way to put it imho
4220[01/01/2015, 2:46:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): McIntosh
4221[01/01/2015, 2:46:44 AM] Athena Hollow: him. yes.
4222[01/01/2015, 2:46:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I don't like how he does that
4223[01/01/2015, 2:46:47 AM] Athena Hollow: a lot.
4224[01/01/2015, 2:46:52 AM] Dina : who?
4225[01/01/2015, 2:46:55 AM] Rob: I'm always worried about crossing that line, tbh
4226[01/01/2015, 2:47:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): the other half of Feminist Frequency
4227[01/01/2015, 2:47:07 AM] Dina : oooh
4228[01/01/2015, 2:47:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Jonathan McIntosh
4229[01/01/2015, 2:47:13 AM] Rob: since i spend an inordinate amount of time talking about feminism and lgbtq rights or muslim rights etc
4230[01/01/2015, 2:47:23 AM] Dina : yeah I don't follow him, enough white dudes on my TL
4231[01/01/2015, 2:47:26 AM] Dina : no offense
4232[01/01/2015, 2:47:31 AM] Rob: none taken, dina, lol
4233[01/01/2015, 2:47:32 AM] Athena Hollow: The way I handle it Rob, is I pose it as a question instead of a statement if it's something that I don't have cold fact to rely on.
4234[01/01/2015, 2:47:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hey i was a white dude once qq
4235[01/01/2015, 2:47:39 AM] Peter Coffin: none taken
4236[01/01/2015, 2:48:04 AM] Peter Coffin: though sometimes I'm a dirty jew, depends on your racial perspective
4237[01/01/2015, 2:48:07 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4238[01/01/2015, 2:48:18 AM] Rob: And sometimes I'm a filthy border hopper
4239[01/01/2015, 2:48:32 AM] Peter Coffin: you own a pogo stick?
4240[01/01/2015, 2:48:36 AM] Rob: :D
4241[01/01/2015, 2:48:36 AM] Athena Hollow: The way Brianna SHOULD have handled that statement was asking about Helen's transphobic history to see if there was more to it that she is unaware of
4242[01/01/2015, 2:48:43 AM] Athena Hollow: instead she said "We shouldn't call her transphobic"
4243[01/01/2015, 2:49:00 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i have a very racially diverse background. both norwegian AND swedish parents count, right
4244[01/01/2015, 2:49:06 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4245[01/01/2015, 2:49:20 AM] Dina : lol Sarah
4246[01/01/2015, 2:49:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Obama is HALF WHITE
4247[01/01/2015, 2:49:49 AM] Dina : I AM NOT
4248[01/01/2015, 2:49:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :O
4249[01/01/2015, 2:50:06 AM] Dina : I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT
4250[01/01/2015, 2:50:08 AM] Rob: I need thse annoying files to convert faster arglebargle
4251[01/01/2015, 2:50:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4252[01/01/2015, 2:50:25 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL that just reminded me of a guy who was arguing w/ me over privilege and said "Well I'm 1/10th Native American. Don't you erase my heritage!" XD
4253[01/01/2015, 2:50:40 AM] Athena Hollow: becaues I said he was a white dude living on easy street
4254[01/01/2015, 2:50:41 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
4255[01/01/2015, 2:50:56 AM] Rob: haha
4256[01/01/2015, 2:50:57 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "hey i was a white dude once qq"
4257[01/01/2015, 2:50:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): NYS
4258[01/01/2015, 2:51:10 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Oh crap, is that how it works? Do I need to turn my card in?
4259[01/01/2015, 2:51:23 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the terfs were right all along
4260[01/01/2015, 2:51:34 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: brb bleaching my mouth
4261[01/01/2015, 2:51:40 AM] Athena Hollow: Like... really guy? I'm 2/3 (because weird blood maths) NA and I don't play that fucking card unless someone is being a total asshole about me using the goddamn phrase totem pole LOL
4262[01/01/2015, 2:51:43 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4263[01/01/2015, 2:51:55 AM] Rob: yeah i'm somewhere around a quarter
4264[01/01/2015, 2:52:05 AM] Dina : ok time to slather face 4 reals pray4me happy NE
4265[01/01/2015, 2:52:06 AM] Rob: since i have some full blooded Cherokee + my Mexican side of the family are mestizo
4266[01/01/2015, 2:52:13 AM] Athena Hollow: <3 have fun Dina!
4267[01/01/2015, 2:52:16 AM] Rob: but it literally matters not
4268[01/01/2015, 2:52:18 AM] Rob: Later, dina! <3
4269[01/01/2015, 2:52:19 AM] Dina : ;3
4270[01/01/2015, 2:52:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: bai dina <3
4271[01/01/2015, 2:52:45 AM] Athena Hollow: my heritage shows up really prominently when I work outside, which is pretty much never LOL
4272[01/01/2015, 2:53:04 AM] Rob: Me too
4273[01/01/2015, 2:53:07 AM] Athena Hollow: like, I've the cheekbones & the hair, but beyond that, you'd never know... unless I am outside for a week and then it's obvious hahahaha
4274[01/01/2015, 2:53:09 AM] Rob: if I spend a lot of time outside I tan a lot
4275[01/01/2015, 2:53:24 AM] Rob: But I hate the outside since I'm allergic to it.
4276[01/01/2015, 2:53:31 AM] Athena Hollow: I worked at this place around the corner for about a month a few months ago, and mother of god lol
4277[01/01/2015, 2:53:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mexican who can pass for White here. I just burn :(
4278[01/01/2015, 2:53:43 AM] Rob: ^5 Izzy
4279[01/01/2015, 2:53:53 AM] Athena Hollow: I haven't worked there for 2 months and I STILL have tanlines XD
4280[01/01/2015, 2:53:58 AM] Rob: One of the racist kids in my highschool referred to people like us as 'ghost face Mexicans' once
4281[01/01/2015, 2:54:04 AM] Athena Hollow: O_______o
4282[01/01/2015, 2:54:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
4283[01/01/2015, 2:54:29 AM] Rob: yea
4284[01/01/2015, 2:54:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ... God damnit Kiwikku. Pretending to be black again!? https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qxr86/kiwikku_in_the_wild_you_realize_i_am_black_right/
4285[01/01/2015, 2:55:15 AM] Athena Hollow: lol goddammit kiwikku
4286[01/01/2015, 2:55:58 AM] Tesseract: oh god kiwikku's deviantart
4287[01/01/2015, 2:56:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): he's a furry
4288[01/01/2015, 2:56:32 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh hey, I have company. Hooray for being forced away from the horrible horrible internet.
4289[01/01/2015, 2:57:37 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550364568640180224
4290[01/01/2015, 2:57:48 AM] Athena Hollow: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/cnaj48j
4291[01/01/2015, 2:57:50 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4292[01/01/2015, 2:59:00 AM] Tesseract: oh my god
4293[01/01/2015, 2:59:06 AM] Tesseract: homestuck/mlp crossover fic
4294[01/01/2015, 2:59:12 AM] Tesseract: on his deviantart
4295[01/01/2015, 2:59:16 AM] Athena Hollow: .............
4296[01/01/2015, 2:59:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): <3 kiwikku
4297[01/01/2015, 2:59:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): never change
4298[01/01/2015, 2:59:40 AM] Tesseract: http://kiwikku.deviantart.com/art/HORSELUCK-BEGIN-436937353 HORSELUCK
4299[01/01/2015, 3:00:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it all makes sense.
4300[01/01/2015, 3:00:34 AM] Athena Hollow: http://kiwikku.deviantart.com/journal/I-support-GamerGate-and-I-need-your-help-492002963
4301
4302LOL
4303[01/01/2015, 3:00:40 AM] Athena Hollow: Yep. That's Kiwikku alright.
4304[01/01/2015, 3:00:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yup. that's one of his usualy 'call to arms' rants
4305[01/01/2015, 3:01:46 AM] Rob: :D
4306[01/01/2015, 3:02:30 AM] Athena Hollow: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/cnajda8
4307[01/01/2015, 3:02:33 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAHAH
4308[01/01/2015, 3:02:38 AM] Athena Hollow: man they are fucking delusional as SHIT
4309[01/01/2015, 3:04:04 AM] Tesseract: pfffffffffffffffffffff
4310[01/01/2015, 3:04:44 AM] Athena Hollow: I want to draw up something in mspaint but my hands are too cold XD
4311[01/01/2015, 3:08:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550367854478901248
4312[01/01/2015, 3:08:51 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4313[01/01/2015, 3:09:00 AM] Athena Hollow: seriously. FULL ON DELUDED THERE.
4314[01/01/2015, 3:09:16 AM] Athena Hollow: The fact that they told me... it wasn't about her... in a post that was specifically about her is hilarious
4315[01/01/2015, 3:11:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Have Zoe or Alex checked in since last night? Hope they're alright
4316[01/01/2015, 3:11:51 AM] Rob: Did something happen?
4317[01/01/2015, 3:12:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zoe getting raided (GGers trying to hack into her accounts) and them going after her family and old friends
4318[01/01/2015, 3:12:23 AM] Rob: ughh
4319[01/01/2015, 3:12:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. There were 2 huge threads on /gamergate/ digging into anything they could find
4320[01/01/2015, 3:12:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): example: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550195760927490048
4321[01/01/2015, 3:14:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: alex DM'd me earlier
4322[01/01/2015, 3:14:39 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: didn't say much
4323[01/01/2015, 3:16:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah. So many GGers in my mentions today. I really pissed them off yesterday. They are so dumb I don't even know how to reply, though
4324[01/01/2015, 3:16:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what pissed them off?
4325[01/01/2015, 3:16:36 AM] Rob: I surprisingly did not get that much today or yesterday.
4326[01/01/2015, 3:16:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Just called them out over the threads on /gamergate/ digging into Zoe's life/history
4327[01/01/2015, 3:17:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): This thread is just great: https://twitter.com/sleeptax/status/550368983598108673
4328[01/01/2015, 3:18:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes, let the tears flow and keep proving just how horrible you really are
4329[01/01/2015, 3:18:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): idiots
4330[01/01/2015, 3:18:28 AM] Tesseract: sleeptax is one of their most insufferable assholes
4331[01/01/2015, 3:18:44 AM] Rob: Hrm
4332[01/01/2015, 3:18:54 AM] Rob: my other 16 GB of RAM gets here today, but i probably should not install it tonight
4333[01/01/2015, 3:18:56 AM] Rob: because i am already tipsy
4334[01/01/2015, 3:19:01 AM] Rob: and I can see that going horribly wrong
4335[01/01/2015, 3:19:06 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4336[01/01/2015, 3:19:30 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah idk wtf they're on about tbh, zoe's a qt anyhow ~
4337[01/01/2015, 3:19:34 AM] Rob: my goal is to fill all 8 of my RAM slots by march
4338[01/01/2015, 3:19:40 AM] Rob: Just so when GGers call me a fake gamer
4339[01/01/2015, 3:19:47 AM] Rob: i can be like - 'I have 64 GB of RAM you filthy fucking casual'
4340[01/01/2015, 3:19:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm just gonna let them keep replying. They are just showing how horrible they are
4341[01/01/2015, 3:19:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): they are so dumb
4342[01/01/2015, 3:20:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's amazing. this is what you all have to deal with?
4343[01/01/2015, 3:20:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): when you attract the GGers to your tweets?
4344[01/01/2015, 3:20:48 AM] Rob: haha
4345[01/01/2015, 3:20:53 AM] Rob: Dude, Izzy, you know gumba masta?
4346[01/01/2015, 3:21:00 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: izzy
4347[01/01/2015, 3:21:04 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: they never figured it out
4348[01/01/2015, 3:21:13 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: basically i post one horrible thing GG did, and i get 6 more
4349[01/01/2015, 3:21:15 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: repeat
4350[01/01/2015, 3:21:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah
4351[01/01/2015, 3:21:24 AM] Dan Olson: Is this a choice we face, between free and open communication, and a web that's safe for the marginalized?
4352[01/01/2015, 3:21:25 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah they fucking keep you stocked sarah
4353[01/01/2015, 3:21:29 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i only get the content BECAUSE THEY'RE REPLYING
4354[01/01/2015, 3:21:48 AM] Athena Hollow: Dan: Sadly. Yes.
4355[01/01/2015, 3:21:54 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: dan just a heads up you had another impersonator
4356[01/01/2015, 3:22:01 AM] Tesseract: gg wants us to think that's a choice we face because they know it's the only way they can keep doing what they do
4357[01/01/2015, 3:22:04 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: strangely, i think things are better now than they used to be
4358[01/01/2015, 3:22:04 AM] Athena Hollow: true.
4359[01/01/2015, 3:22:17 AM] Athena Hollow: It COULD be better as well, but people are lazy shits.
4360[01/01/2015, 3:22:24 AM] Athena Hollow: And refuse to take a goddamn stand.
4361[01/01/2015, 3:22:28 AM] Dan Olson: It's the same one, they personally nuked the account before I could report it last time, but I haven't been able to lock down that username
4362[01/01/2015, 3:22:34 AM] Athena Hollow: And want to stay with their head in the sand and fly under the radar.
4363[01/01/2015, 3:22:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): WAIT. This is not a real picture of Zoe, is it? The face looks photoshopped in: https://twitter.com/sleeptax/status/550368983598108673
4364[01/01/2015, 3:22:41 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "no girls on the internet" was like.. a thing. it's hard to believe that was a thing, but it was
4365[01/01/2015, 3:23:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): or it may be, but her face looks more blurry. idk
4366[01/01/2015, 3:26:01 AM] Randi Harper: ugh I gotta start getting to sleep at a decent hour. so tired.
4367[01/01/2015, 3:26:58 AM] Athena Hollow: lol they mad http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/cnaim4g
4368[01/01/2015, 3:27:14 AM] Athena Hollow: "IT'S NOT ABOUT HER" ... on a post about her.
4369[01/01/2015, 3:27:15 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4370[01/01/2015, 3:28:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They are still replying and saying horrible shit about Zoe's appearance. They mad
4371[01/01/2015, 3:29:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG IS NOT HORRIBLE! /goes on to say horrible things/
4372[01/01/2015, 3:29:47 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4373[01/01/2015, 3:30:11 AM] Tesseract: tb retweeted a stream one of my friends is in
4374[01/01/2015, 3:30:16 AM] Tesseract: here comes the shitstorm
4375[01/01/2015, 3:30:17 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: like... they still don't get that even IF grayson had written about her while they were romantically involved, the rational response to that is "that's fucked up grayson didn't disclose that" not "SHE HAD SEX FOR PRESS!!!"
4376[01/01/2015, 3:30:27 AM] Athena Hollow: oh goodie
4377[01/01/2015, 3:30:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: why'd he rt it?
4378[01/01/2015, 3:30:47 AM] Tesseract: it's a charity stream
4379[01/01/2015, 3:30:50 AM] Tesseract: he rt'd it for gamergate pr
4380[01/01/2015, 3:31:38 AM] Rob: I love you guys <3
4381[01/01/2015, 3:31:59 AM] Tesseract: it's ablegamers no less
4382[01/01/2015, 3:31:59 AM] Athena Hollow: And yeah, Sarah. This "it's not about her, it's about journalistic ethics" bullshit is proven to be JUST bullshit when they still constantly attack Zoe. BUT YEAH IT'S SO NOT ABOUT HER SEX LIFE AND THAT SHE HAD SEX WITH 10 IMAGINARY DUDES """""""ALLEGEDLY"""""""
4383[01/01/2015, 3:33:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dude, I heard she had sex with 11 guys
4384[01/01/2015, 3:33:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): no wait, probably 1000
4385[01/01/2015, 3:33:32 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4386[01/01/2015, 3:33:33 AM] Tesseract: she fucked infinity dudes
4387[01/01/2015, 3:33:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): why else would people support her?
4388[01/01/2015, 3:33:44 AM] Athena Hollow: oh and btw, they totes aren't slut shamers.
4389[01/01/2015, 3:33:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no rational person jumps to "QUID PRO QUO BANGIN FOR REVIEWS" when the rational explanation IF THE ARTICLE ACTUALLY EXISTED AT THAT TIME would've been "they were romantically involved and the journalist made a mistake by not disclosing"
4390[01/01/2015, 3:33:54 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
4391[01/01/2015, 3:34:00 AM] Athena Hollow: HIS WHOLE FIVE WORDS YO
4392[01/01/2015, 3:34:09 AM] Athena Hollow: in a list, of, what? at least 10 other games? LOL
4393[01/01/2015, 3:34:16 AM] Athena Hollow: for fuck sake they are goddamn dumb lol
4394[01/01/2015, 3:34:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that was published before they were involved no less
4395[01/01/2015, 3:34:34 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh I know I know,.
4396[01/01/2015, 3:34:43 AM] Athena Hollow: it's still just ... fucking hell.
4397[01/01/2015, 3:35:05 AM] Athena Hollow: the fuckery in these morons' heads that allow them to justify the way they treat EVERYONEEEEEE is just goddamn messed up.
4398[01/01/2015, 3:35:57 AM] Peter Coffin: someone came at me about pakman on youtube comments, just thought I'd dump the response here
4399https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550374281213788160 https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550374450898538497
4400[01/01/2015, 3:36:15 AM] Randi Harper: when women don't have sex with dudes, they are teases or lesbians or both. when women do have sex with dudes, they probably did it to gain something, like video game reviews. obviously.
4401[01/01/2015, 3:36:15 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. pakman.
4402[01/01/2015, 3:36:24 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4403[01/01/2015, 3:36:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550374962792370176
4404[01/01/2015, 3:37:05 AM] Randi Harper: man how is my new jigsaw puzzle holder here but amazon didn't ship the new puzzle yet.
4405[01/01/2015, 3:37:05 AM] Randi Harper: jerks.
4406[01/01/2015, 3:37:19 AM] Peter Coffin: rt'd izzy, that's exactly it
4407[01/01/2015, 3:37:21 AM] Randi Harper: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1579128882/ is gonna look pretty on my wall after I get it and put it together.
4408[01/01/2015, 3:37:21 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG on women's sexuality
4409
4410having sex with women? no wonder you're a fucking feminist you ugly dyke
4411sex with men? STOP TRYING TO GET FAVORS FOR SEX
4412not having sex with anyone? see: their treatment of jenni
4413[01/01/2015, 3:37:38 AM] Peter Coffin: accurate
4414[01/01/2015, 3:37:41 AM] Randi Harper: is jenni pixie?
4415[01/01/2015, 3:37:44 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah
4416[01/01/2015, 3:37:49 AM] Randi Harper: WHY DOES EVERYONE CONFUSE US
4417[01/01/2015, 3:38:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Because blue and green hair. but GGers are colorblind
4418[01/01/2015, 3:38:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's okay. Grace Lynn is updating the GGautoblocker soon
4419[01/01/2015, 3:38:19 AM] Randi Harper: jenni: green hair, asexual
4420randi: blue hair, kinkster
4421
4422They've picked on both of us for our sexuality at some point. but now they just get us confused. heck, people not in GG get us confused.
4423[01/01/2015, 3:38:19 AM] Athena Hollow: That's why I called them a puritanical sex negative slut shamer - their own words against them, because every time I turn around, they're slut shaming someone new.
4424[01/01/2015, 3:38:44 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Someone (I HOPE PURPOSEFULLY) mixed up ian & arthur about ian's article yesterday
4425[01/01/2015, 3:38:48 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "slut shaming" bayonetta is a big deal and you should feel bad, you stupid whore
4426[01/01/2015, 3:38:51 AM] Athena Hollow: I'M REALLY HOPING it was on purpose.
4427[01/01/2015, 3:39:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i fucking lost it once when arthur was like IT WAS 15 YEARS AGO ALSO I AM ARTHUR
4428[01/01/2015, 3:39:17 AM] Athena Hollow: the funny thing is they won't be able to remotely say I'm a slut shaming feminist because a cursory google search shows "OMG VAGINA EVERYWHERE!"
4429[01/01/2015, 3:39:25 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4430[01/01/2015, 3:39:41 AM] Randi Harper: ian is the first non-GGer I saw to confuse me and jenni
4431[01/01/2015, 3:39:44 AM] Randi Harper: so, glass houses. ;)
4432[01/01/2015, 3:39:47 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
4433[01/01/2015, 3:39:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, Ian
4434[01/01/2015, 3:40:17 AM] Randi Harper: i was so close to being like... BUT DUDE YOU ARE ASIAN on twitter, but i figured GG would not get my sense of humor.
4435[01/01/2015, 3:40:49 AM] Athena Hollow: OMG RANDI'S RACIST!
4436[01/01/2015, 3:40:55 AM] Athena Hollow: clutches pearls
4437[01/01/2015, 3:41:07 AM] Athena Hollow: then throws out 10 different racial slurs
4438[01/01/2015, 3:41:16 AM] Randi Harper: :P
4439[01/01/2015, 3:41:30 AM] Athena Hollow: They are so bad at emulating people.
4440[01/01/2015, 3:41:35 AM] Randi Harper: I TRY NOT TO BE. although i do give some of my close friends a little grief over fulfilling stereotypes.
4441[01/01/2015, 3:41:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "women with dyed hair" is a race right
4442[01/01/2015, 3:41:46 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i fucking loved that picture w/ GG invading tumblr so much
4443[01/01/2015, 3:41:46 AM] Athena Hollow: I do that to my friends as they do to me LOL
4444[01/01/2015, 3:42:05 AM] Rob: I think Ian and Arthur should swap twitter avis for a day
4445[01/01/2015, 3:42:08 AM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
4446[01/01/2015, 3:42:15 AM] Randi Harper: like when one of my arena partners came to SF to visit, i met up with her at BART after she got off the plane. we walked about a mile to get froyo, and she started complaining that her back hurt... because she brought all of her school books with her just in case she had time to study.
4447[01/01/2015, 3:42:20 AM] Rob: Or like
4448[01/01/2015, 3:42:26 AM] Rob: Do one of those face-combine things
4449[01/01/2015, 3:42:29 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
4450[01/01/2015, 3:42:33 AM] Rob: And then just have the picture's orientation reversed.
4451[01/01/2015, 3:42:46 AM] Athena Hollow: just pic 2 different Jet Li pictures for the hell of it
4452[01/01/2015, 3:42:47 AM] Randi Harper: woah. weird realization that half of my female friends are Asian.
4453[01/01/2015, 3:42:52 AM] Randi Harper: like at least half.
4454[01/01/2015, 3:43:00 AM] Athena Hollow: half mine are trans as I've recently figured out LOL
4455[01/01/2015, 3:43:03 AM] Tesseract: haha oh god this guy https://twitter.com/SJWIlluminati/status/550373109929639936
4456[01/01/2015, 3:43:38 AM] Rob: "some of our best trolls are women" - gamergate
4457[01/01/2015, 3:43:41 AM] Athena Hollow: lol they think your swatting people
4458[01/01/2015, 3:43:46 AM] Randi Harper: i made fun of one of them for being bad at math. she thought that 40% off of $10 made something $8. hm. maybe i am racist.
4459[01/01/2015, 3:43:52 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4460[01/01/2015, 3:44:02 AM] Rob: I made fun of one of my Korean friends in HS when I beat him at starcraft
4461[01/01/2015, 3:44:38 AM] Randi Harper: i sit across from a Korean dude at work, and he jokes about that sometimes.
4462[01/01/2015, 3:44:39 AM] Athena Hollow: lol my best friend is black and he lives 4 doors down and anytime he buys fried chicken & watermelon, I can't contain myself
4463[01/01/2015, 3:44:55 AM] Rob: Yeah in my defense my friend was like 'i'm Korean, rob, i'm gonna kick your ass'
4464[01/01/2015, 3:44:58 AM] Rob: just before we played
4465[01/01/2015, 3:45:18 AM] Randi Harper: i'm kind of curious as to if there's any breeding done for starcraft skills. it's natural for people interested in the same stuff to hook up and have kids, but i never really see any women getting into starcraft.
4466[01/01/2015, 3:45:24 AM] Athena Hollow: but, like, we joke about that shit all the time because of the absurdity of it so it's not like I'm on twitter yelling it at random black people or something lol
4467[01/01/2015, 3:45:36 AM] Rob: zerg rush eugenics
4468[01/01/2015, 3:45:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
4469[01/01/2015, 3:45:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I thought Starcraft was taught in public schools
4470[01/01/2015, 3:45:43 AM] Randi Harper: hahaha oh god
4471[01/01/2015, 3:45:50 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6NUp12CcAEs97I.jpg:large GDI i am the only one without one
4472[01/01/2015, 3:45:55 AM] Rob: I just picture fucking hotwheels now going
4473[01/01/2015, 3:46:00 AM] Athena Hollow: i need one too
4474[01/01/2015, 3:46:03 AM] Rob: "WE HAVE BREEDED THE PERFECT STARCRAFT PLAYER. YEARS OF WORK ACHIEVED!"
4475[01/01/2015, 3:46:07 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHA
4476[01/01/2015, 3:46:20 AM] Athena Hollow: as he pets Jordan Owen's cat with his metal glove.
4477[01/01/2015, 3:46:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): That poor cat
4478[01/01/2015, 3:46:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): alwasy looks annoyed
4479[01/01/2015, 3:46:50 AM] Athena Hollow: if you had to live in that pig sty, wouldn't you be?
4480[01/01/2015, 3:47:04 AM] Randi Harper: so i talked to patreon yesterday.
4481[01/01/2015, 3:47:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh, yeah?
4482[01/01/2015, 3:47:19 AM] Randi Harper: yeah. they sent me an email out of the blue wanting to talk on the phone.
4483[01/01/2015, 3:47:34 AM] Rob: Is it bad that I picture that cat eating Jordan after he accidentally kills himself while performing autoerotic asphyxiation?
4484[01/01/2015, 3:47:38 AM] Randi Harper: spoke with someone there last night. she was a sweetheart. turns out she lives just a few miles from me, and we're gonna go do girlshit together at some point.
4485[01/01/2015, 3:47:45 AM] Athena Hollow: hah
4486[01/01/2015, 3:47:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): cool
4487[01/01/2015, 3:47:57 AM] Randi Harper: it was a strange call. it started out with her asking me to not record it.
4488[01/01/2015, 3:48:00 AM] Athena Hollow: bad that you picture jordan owen masturbating.
4489[01/01/2015, 3:48:05 AM] Randi Harper: i wanted to be like... oh, sweetie. you've been dealing with gamergate for way too long.
4490[01/01/2015, 3:48:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): aww
4491[01/01/2015, 3:48:16 AM] Rob: "He died doing what he loved"
4492[01/01/2015, 3:48:20 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4493[01/01/2015, 3:48:26 AM] Athena Hollow: smothered in belts
4494[01/01/2015, 3:48:53 AM] Rob: Staring at a picture of aurini lying naked on a lounge chair
4495[01/01/2015, 3:48:55 AM] Randi Harper: but to keep it vague but useful, patreon got complaints about me doxxing that dude by posting his email address, and they wanted to talk to me to let me know that they were taking things in context of the situation, so i wasn't in any kind of trouble.
4496[01/01/2015, 3:49:12 AM] Rob: That's good of them
4497[01/01/2015, 3:49:13 AM] Athena Hollow: awesome
4498[01/01/2015, 3:49:22 AM] Randi Harper: so we talked a lot about their community guidelines and where they are going from there, ways to make them better, how the company is treating all the complaints coming in, etc.
4499[01/01/2015, 3:49:38 AM] Randi Harper: i'm pretty happy with them right now based on all the stuff i heard.
4500[01/01/2015, 3:49:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah: https://twitter.com/Nexonius/status/550372122330398720
4501[01/01/2015, 3:49:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I
4502[01/01/2015, 3:49:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm the new srhbutts!
4503[01/01/2015, 3:50:27 AM] Athena Hollow: lolol
4504[01/01/2015, 3:50:31 AM] Rob: god damn it fish
4505[01/01/2015, 3:50:45 AM] Rob: seriously why does wow make the 'U CAUGHT FISH' noise when there's no fish attached. fucking troll
4506[01/01/2015, 3:50:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4507[01/01/2015, 3:50:55 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
4508[01/01/2015, 3:52:45 AM] Randi Harper: god. i hate open source solutions sometimes.
4509[01/01/2015, 3:52:58 AM] Randi Harper: i found a way to use 2FA with IRC. sort of. it's... less than glorious.
4510[01/01/2015, 3:53:01 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
4511[01/01/2015, 3:53:03 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: keep it up izzy <3
4512[01/01/2015, 3:53:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): <3
4513[01/01/2015, 3:53:34 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my vote is to stay on skype & require everyone to turn logging off
4514[01/01/2015, 3:53:42 AM] Randi Harper: the setup involves openotp, ldap, shell scripts, and an ssh proxy. just fuck all that noise. no 2FA.
4515[01/01/2015, 3:53:51 AM] Randi Harper: i can't turn off logging.
4516[01/01/2015, 3:54:01 AM] Randi Harper: if i could do it per conversation, i would.
4517[01/01/2015, 3:54:05 AM] Rob: yeah, ditto, randi
4518[01/01/2015, 3:55:23 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: we could write a script to close skype flush the log for that room and reopen it if we wanted. not an elegant solution lol
4519[01/01/2015, 3:56:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and the reasons why we didn't want to go with Google chat/hangouts was because Google is a big target for hacking accounts and you have to tie your real name?
4520[01/01/2015, 3:56:32 AM] Athena Hollow: yep
4521[01/01/2015, 3:56:37 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550379047520571392 caught janet bloomfield + ralph lying lol
4522[01/01/2015, 3:56:45 AM] Athena Hollow: they're both so gross. ugh.
4523[01/01/2015, 3:56:47 AM] Randi Harper: don't signal boost this publicly because GG likes to data skew, but if you could pass this on to any females you know in the games industry, that would be rad: http://www.reddit.com/r/SampleSize/comments/2qtw1o/academic_women_involved_in_any_aspect_of/
4524[01/01/2015, 3:57:30 AM] Randi Harper: a friend poked me on facebook about it - his friend is the author.
4525[01/01/2015, 3:57:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): .... "I'd recommend taking a look at /r/Kotakuinaction, get a perspective from there"
4526[01/01/2015, 3:57:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ....
4527[01/01/2015, 3:57:44 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i don't know too many but i can pass it on to a few
4528[01/01/2015, 3:57:44 AM] Randi Harper: i'm going to be contacting her to let her know about GG data skew.
4529[01/01/2015, 3:57:59 AM] Randi Harper: shit.
4530[01/01/2015, 3:58:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): should one of us reply and let them know that is the GG subreddit?
4531[01/01/2015, 3:59:23 AM] Rob: II fucking haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate bloomfield
4532[01/01/2015, 3:59:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I will gladly warn them
4533[01/01/2015, 3:59:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i think they know already, since they posted in multiple subreddits but not that one
4534[01/01/2015, 3:59:36 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but good to give them a heads up
4535[01/01/2015, 3:59:52 AM] Tesseract: downvote him also
4536[01/01/2015, 4:00:18 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: are we still interested in inviting more people to the chat or are we mostly staying as is
4537[01/01/2015, 4:00:34 AM] Tesseract: I'd like to not invite anyone until we move off skype
4538[01/01/2015, 4:00:54 AM] Randi Harper: i already emailed
4539[01/01/2015, 4:01:10 AM] Randi Harper: Woah! Be careful with KotakuInAction. That's GamerGate, and they've been participating in a LOT of data skewing with surveys. A few problematic people in that group are flooding surveys about women and gaming to cause havoc. A friend of yours pointed me at your post, and I immediately warned him, but then I saw that someone from GamerGate already saw (hence the KiA comment). 
4540
4541I'm passing this link along quietly to my friends, and asking them to quietly pass it along to their friends. Sadly, I can't publicly signal boost it without the danger of it becoming more of a GamerGate target.
4542
4543Good luck!
4544[01/01/2015, 4:04:31 AM] Peter Coffin: that is very concise
4545[01/01/2015, 4:05:00 AM] Peter Coffin: hopefully gets to them before gg gets particularly involved
4546[01/01/2015, 4:08:04 AM] Randi Harper: hey guys, need a sanity check on something.
4547[01/01/2015, 4:08:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): sure
4548[01/01/2015, 4:08:23 AM] Randi Harper: the appeals group just got an email, and i told everyone to hold off on moving it out of the moderation queue (and i hope they see my email)
4549[01/01/2015, 4:08:39 AM] Randi Harper: the first line of the email is this:
4550
4551So I recently made a new account,  because I half came out as Trans.  I say half, because I'm still terrified, so I use my other account as a safe haven. But I feel I really don't like my old account anymore.
4552[01/01/2015, 4:08:51 AM] Randi Harper: he uses his real name and his new account/old account name.
4553[01/01/2015, 4:09:03 AM] Randi Harper: i'm sending him this email and asking appeals group to hold off until i get a reply:
4554[01/01/2015, 4:09:07 AM] Randi Harper: Hey. The way this list works, any email that's sent is made public on the website. It's a google group, and we aim for transparency. That said, all new posts are held in moderation until we approve them, and I've asked everyone to hold off on approving that one (posting it so they could discuss and vote) so I could talk to you privately first. 
4555
4556This is a pretty serious email you're sending. Are you OK with me going ahead and making it public? This doesn't mean I tweet it or anything, it's not like that. It just means that the conversation is on record. If someone was searching through the appeals records archives, they could see the content of the emails along with your name. This has been the case for every other thread, but since that's a pretty big bomb to drop, I just wanted to make sure that you knew how all of this worked before moving forward with our usual process.
4557[01/01/2015, 4:09:09 AM] Randi Harper: does that make sense?
4558[01/01/2015, 4:09:34 AM] Randi Harper: it's weird to explain a mailing list moderation policy in a way that assumes the reader isn't technical.
4559[01/01/2015, 4:10:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No. that makes sense. You're letting them know you are concerned that you don't want to publish their email (per policy) without them realizing that's how it works
4560[01/01/2015, 4:10:27 AM] Peter Coffin: makes perfect sense to me
4561[01/01/2015, 4:10:28 AM] Athena Hollow: makes sense to me as well
4562[01/01/2015, 4:11:07 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL Tess: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qxem6/the_guardian_misrepresents_gg_again_2014_in/cnal8er
4563
4564right on the money XD
4565[01/01/2015, 4:12:01 AM] Peter Coffin: LOL
4566[01/01/2015, 4:12:13 AM] Peter Coffin: oh my god that is literally EXACTLY what you said
4567[01/01/2015, 4:12:57 AM] Athena Hollow: original post is only at -4. Hrm. Must be a slow day on KiA LOL
4568[01/01/2015, 4:13:14 AM] Peter Coffin: well look at topsy
4569[01/01/2015, 4:13:17 AM] Peter Coffin: it's dying
4570[01/01/2015, 4:13:24 AM] Peter Coffin: like legit dying this time
4571[01/01/2015, 4:13:52 AM] Randi Harper: they are probably sleeping in because their parents told them they could stay up late for NYE.
4572[01/01/2015, 4:14:01 AM] Peter Coffin: http://topsy.com/analytics?q1=%23gamergate&q2=%23gamergate%20-rt&via=Topsy
4573[01/01/2015, 4:14:02 AM] Athena Hollow: LOLOL
4574[01/01/2015, 4:14:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): What happened the 28th?
4575[01/01/2015, 4:14:25 AM] Peter Coffin: dunno
4576[01/01/2015, 4:14:30 AM] Peter Coffin: debate?
4577[01/01/2015, 4:14:33 AM] Athena Hollow: oh yeah, the only reason there's hardly any traffic right now is because of dudes like Izzy was talking to earlier that puts it in every goddamn post
4578[01/01/2015, 4:14:38 AM] Peter Coffin: was that the day of the debate?
4579[01/01/2015, 4:14:40 AM] Athena Hollow: i think so
4580[01/01/2015, 4:14:45 AM] Peter Coffin: HAHAHA
4581[01/01/2015, 4:14:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 29th was
4582[01/01/2015, 4:14:48 AM] Athena Hollow: or was that the 29th
4583[01/01/2015, 4:14:49 AM] Athena Hollow: hrm.
4584[01/01/2015, 4:15:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): but yeah, still declined on the 29th
4585[01/01/2015, 4:15:00 AM] Peter Coffin: 29th is DEAD
4586[01/01/2015, 4:15:12 AM] Athena Hollow: THEY WAS HEARTBROKEN
4587[01/01/2015, 4:15:13 AM] Peter Coffin: 2.8k
4588[01/01/2015, 4:15:27 AM] Peter Coffin: that debate did a lot, whether it was the 28th or 29th
4589[01/01/2015, 4:15:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): this was the top tweet? o.o "@kgwnews: Unclaimed Money, #GamerGate #Ukraine led local searches online http://t.co/P9bWruqOJc"
4590[01/01/2015, 4:15:34 AM] Peter Coffin: doesn't even matter, that is a big deal
4591[01/01/2015, 4:16:06 AM] Peter Coffin: top for the 30th was "December 30th: 3,501
4592
4593@graygunter: Ok but a #GamerGate just for this freeze frame of Olivia Munn http://t.co/rNO0ZD2Kca"
4594[01/01/2015, 4:16:09 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/chrisvcsefalvay/status/550362989657088001
4595[01/01/2015, 4:16:09 AM] Athena Hollow: OH baldwin tweeted something on the 28th
4596[01/01/2015, 4:16:10 AM] Randi Harper: lol
4597[01/01/2015, 4:16:15 AM] Randi Harper: what a moron
4598[01/01/2015, 4:16:24 AM] Peter Coffin: so Baldwin is poison?
4599[01/01/2015, 4:16:34 AM] Athena Hollow: your attacks on him? lolol
4600[01/01/2015, 4:16:41 AM] Athena Hollow: love the shirtgate stuff
4601[01/01/2015, 4:16:55 AM] Athena Hollow: considering the only ppl who keep bringing it up are the assholes who dragged it out past his apology XD
4602[01/01/2015, 4:17:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): who is this guy? the one who said Randi can't do data because she's a girl?
4603[01/01/2015, 4:18:23 AM] Peter Coffin: debate was the 29th
4604[01/01/2015, 4:22:25 AM] Randi Harper: yes
4605[01/01/2015, 4:22:26 AM] Randi Harper: that's the one
4606[01/01/2015, 4:22:30 AM] Randi Harper: the one that published those GG statistics
4607[01/01/2015, 4:22:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
4608[01/01/2015, 4:22:40 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Morning kids
4609[01/01/2015, 4:22:44 AM] Randi Harper: but only read 5k tweets a day including RTs, and his collection time for the US was 11 PM on weeknights.
4610[01/01/2015, 4:22:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Morning, Alex. How goes it?
4611[01/01/2015, 4:23:03 AM] Randi Harper: when i pointed out how shitty his data collection methods were, he claimed harassment.
4612[01/01/2015, 4:23:05 AM] Dan Olson: Morning
4613[01/01/2015, 4:23:06 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Eh, night of clogged sinuses and ramen stomach
4614[01/01/2015, 4:23:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): How's Zoe?
4615[01/01/2015, 4:23:30 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550386680151412738
4616[01/01/2015, 4:23:43 AM] Alex Lifschitz: She's doing okay. Just got up, had to take a few of y sleeping pills to stave off the nightmares
4617[01/01/2015, 4:23:45 AM] Dan Olson: Because they're all on sale I'm grabbing the CoD games I still need for my retrospective, and I can already feel the aching in my joints.
4618[01/01/2015, 4:23:51 AM] Alex Lifschitz: So she's groggy
4619[01/01/2015, 4:24:27 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550386336973479936
4620[01/01/2015, 4:24:39 AM] Dan Olson: That's brutal, Alex. I feel like every time someone else tries to take the heat off they go "wait, we haven't fucked up Zoe's life enough! Let's get back on that!"
4621[01/01/2015, 4:25:04 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: offer hugs from us, alex :(
4622[01/01/2015, 4:25:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, christ if only we made everything we get public people would probably flip out
4623[01/01/2015, 4:25:40 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Saw someone on Ghazi made a thread about the thread so at least that's out there
4624[01/01/2015, 4:26:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think that was me. linking to my tweet of a screenshot from that thread (all info blacked out, of course)
4625[01/01/2015, 4:26:27 AM] Dan Olson: My impersonator was sending out transphobic comments this morning. I'm assuming Ms. Butts screencapped them?
4626[01/01/2015, 4:26:33 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also, was it decided what kinda chat we're moving to? Skype no longer boots on my mac
4627[01/01/2015, 4:26:43 AM] Tesseract: nope
4628[01/01/2015, 4:26:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We are still deciding/working on something
4629[01/01/2015, 4:26:56 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my vote was just to figure out the logging issue on skype. most of us can just change the log settings.
4630[01/01/2015, 4:26:59 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it's up to others of course
4631[01/01/2015, 4:27:01 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but that's my vote
4632[01/01/2015, 4:27:01 AM] Tesseract: I don't really know much on the subject
4633[01/01/2015, 4:27:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: if we're determined to have something other than skype, my next vote is IRC
4634[01/01/2015, 4:27:56 AM] Randi Harper: i can still do IRC. i can set it up like, now. but it'll take a little longer to make the frontend that allows creation of SG rules, so i'd just have to leave it open for now.
4635[01/01/2015, 4:28:06 AM] Randi Harper: unless... izzy, do you know of anything like that?
4636[01/01/2015, 4:28:15 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: SG rules?
4637[01/01/2015, 4:28:26 AM] live:riotarms: What up
4638[01/01/2015, 4:28:28 AM] Randi Harper: i want people to be able to go to a webpage, auth somehow, and it'll use the API to create a SG rule to allow them into the IRC server.
4639[01/01/2015, 4:28:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: are you setting up a daemon or just a channel
4640[01/01/2015, 4:28:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AWS Security Groups
4641[01/01/2015, 4:28:33 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ah
4642[01/01/2015, 4:28:41 AM] Randi Harper: srh: i'm locking it down.
4643[01/01/2015, 4:28:48 AM] Randi Harper: it'll be firewalled to everything but our IPs.
4644[01/01/2015, 4:29:08 AM] Athena Hollow: oh wow. amib's article is on boingboing http://boingboing.net/2014/12/31/how-imageboard-culture-shaped.html
4645[01/01/2015, 4:29:11 AM] Randi Harper: no need for 2FA, no need for any real fanciness on you guys' parts.
4646[01/01/2015, 4:29:17 AM] Rob: I'm down with that, randi
4647[01/01/2015, 4:29:28 AM] Rob: As long as it's something I can handle when super drunk (like I am now), then cool.
4648[01/01/2015, 4:29:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4649[01/01/2015, 4:29:46 AM] live:riotarms: What about people on block IPs?
4650[01/01/2015, 4:29:49 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: holy shit @ boingboing
4651[01/01/2015, 4:30:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ! AMIB IS FAMOUS
4652[01/01/2015, 4:30:15 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I looked at campfire a bit more and it seems really useful/feature rich with all our security needs and not-shit clients.
4653[01/01/2015, 4:30:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: So dunno if people are down for that.
4654[01/01/2015, 4:30:29 AM] Rob: AMIB is fucking awesome.
4655[01/01/2015, 4:30:36 AM] Randi Harper: it would be you going to a website, and it would prompt you for a password. it would be something we set up beforehand, so you'd just enter that password. it's not 2FA. i could do 2FA, but that looks... well, complicated.
4656[01/01/2015, 4:30:42 AM] Rob: Like he's an all around really great guy.
4657[01/01/2015, 4:30:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Gonna snag that AMiB article later for my writeup
4658[01/01/2015, 4:30:47 AM] Tesseract: yessssssss
4659[01/01/2015, 4:30:56 AM] Randi Harper: i need to put more time into working on the stats release for the 4th, so i don't have time to make huge architectural changes. :|
4660[01/01/2015, 4:31:00 AM] Tesseract: jetta_rae still hasn't gotten back to me on that vivian james article
4661[01/01/2015, 4:31:08 AM] Rob: Randi - that works for me; and take your time! your job is more important
4662[01/01/2015, 4:31:26 AM] Randi Harper: not my job. just me shitting on gamergate.
4663[01/01/2015, 4:31:30 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4664[01/01/2015, 4:31:34 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Randi, have you checked out Campfire at all?
4665
4666IRC is still cool but figure this might take some security issues off your hands.
4667[01/01/2015, 4:31:39 AM] Athena Hollow: that's a part time volunteer job for all of us i think
4668[01/01/2015, 4:31:43 AM] Randi Harper: literally taking a dump on the collective faces of gamergate. with numbers and science.
4669[01/01/2015, 4:31:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: 2FA and certificates supported.
4670[01/01/2015, 4:31:55 AM] Rob: OK, not your job: your calling
4671[01/01/2015, 4:31:57 AM] Randi Harper: campfire uses a bunch of 3rd party apps
4672[01/01/2015, 4:32:01 AM] Rob: Srry I'm all tipsy and out of it
4673[01/01/2015, 4:32:09 AM] Randi Harper: and i'm not fond of something we'd have to pay money for that doesn't even have official apps.
4674[01/01/2015, 4:32:14 AM] Rob: I just spent 3 minutes trying ot get the flight master to take me to a flight point I'm already at.
4675[01/01/2015, 4:32:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: So not secure?
4676[01/01/2015, 4:32:19 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Ah
4677[01/01/2015, 4:32:32 AM] Randi Harper: i am not sure about security because it's involving 3rd party apps. :\
4678[01/01/2015, 4:32:45 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Gotcha
4679[01/01/2015, 4:33:37 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Looks like there's an official app though, unless I'm missing something.
4680
4681Either way, IRC works, just need a security solution for those of us on the move.
4682[01/01/2015, 4:34:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, they are still going at it in that twitter thread, bashing Zoe's appearance. wow
4683[01/01/2015, 4:34:15 AM] Athena Hollow: jeez
4684[01/01/2015, 4:34:17 AM] Randi Harper: for security, google is likely the way to go, but there's complications in that with people needing to use some sort of anonymous google account open if they don't want to spread their real account info. there's good 2FA with google, but google accounts are also higher risk just because they are targeted so much.
4685
4686what i'm doing with IRC won't be 2FA, but it'll be traceable if someone gets in. it will be noticeable, and the process is obfuscated just enough for it to be easy for us, but difficult for people that aren't us to figure out.
4687[01/01/2015, 4:34:31 AM] Randi Harper: personally, i'm fond of security through obfuscation. :P
4688[01/01/2015, 4:34:41 AM] Dan Olson: it works
4689[01/01/2015, 4:34:58 AM] Dan Olson: it can be a good tripwire for social engineering, too
4690[01/01/2015, 4:35:04 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Yep
4691[01/01/2015, 4:35:27 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Just gotta find an iOS IRC app that isn't ducking horseshit or supports conversation history
4692[01/01/2015, 4:35:57 AM] Dan Olson: Is Colloquy bad?
4693[01/01/2015, 4:35:59 AM] Randi Harper: i am cracking up at this tweet: https://twitter.com/CriminallyVu1ga/status/550388227622723584
4694[01/01/2015, 4:36:04 AM] Randi Harper: not sure if i'm that tired or it's that funny
4695[01/01/2015, 4:36:17 AM] Randi Harper: i used to use colloquy :)
4696[01/01/2015, 4:36:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Palaver was the only one slightly palatable but they're all kinda shit
4697[01/01/2015, 4:36:39 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL that is a good tweet.
4698[01/01/2015, 4:36:48 AM] Dan Olson: I use it on my desktop and have it on my phone, but I rarely use the phone app.
4699[01/01/2015, 4:36:51 AM] live:riotarms: I had colloquy on ios
4700[01/01/2015, 4:37:02 AM] live:riotarms: Battery killer
4701[01/01/2015, 4:37:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also logs me off every five minutes, it's irritating as shit
4702[01/01/2015, 4:37:23 AM] live:riotarms: Oh yeah, that too
4703[01/01/2015, 4:37:28 AM] SF: Yo. Happy New Year's Steve. Did I miss anything?
4704[01/01/2015, 4:38:01 AM] SF: Also Sarah: The larger security issue with Skype was the way it's easy to find IP addresses, so if so much as one of our friends gets compromised it means they could target us.
4705[01/01/2015, 4:38:07 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hence my aversion to IRC, but I'll swallow it if it means security and ease of use for everyone
4706[01/01/2015, 4:38:42 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, we've unfucked so many peoples' skype accounts from Gamergate's that I'm uncomfortable with it.
4707[01/01/2015, 4:39:55 AM] SF: How goes the survival by the way? Have they done much else to you two?
4708[01/01/2015, 4:39:57 AM] Athena Hollow: If I recall from my olden days of IRC, I believe we can set passwords to the individual rooms as well which should help.
4709[01/01/2015, 4:40:09 AM] Athena Hollow: and I know we can set passwords for usernames
4710[01/01/2015, 4:40:17 AM] Randi Harper: so... I've got a script that i'm watching right now that scrapes every mention of my name from the twitter api. and gamergate isn't tweeting about me.
4711[01/01/2015, 4:40:20 AM] Randi Harper: something weird is happening.
4712[01/01/2015, 4:40:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's dying
4713[01/01/2015, 4:40:43 AM] Athena Hollow: so even if someone somehow manages to get to the server itself, they won't necessarily be able to do dick all beyond that.
4714[01/01/2015, 4:40:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris Kluwe hurt their feelz with his debate with Mike and then huge downspike
4715[01/01/2015, 4:40:56 AM] Tesseract: that debate was the best thing to ever happen
4716[01/01/2015, 4:41:05 AM] Tesseract: god bless chris
4717[01/01/2015, 4:41:08 AM] Athena Hollow: they're also on about bri and her assistant right now too.
4718[01/01/2015, 4:41:10 AM] Alex Lifschitz: IRC fucks battery real hard on mobile and all the clients suck if you want convo history, but  I can keep looking for a solution.
4719[01/01/2015, 4:41:13 AM] live:riotarms: Hastag is under 5k a day right?
4720[01/01/2015, 4:41:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Kiwikku even said Mike did horrible
4721[01/01/2015, 4:41:39 AM] Randi Harper: HAHAHAH
4722[01/01/2015, 4:41:40 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/TheHat2/status/550386388357885952
4723[01/01/2015, 4:41:40 AM] Randi Harper: HAHA
4724[01/01/2015, 4:41:41 AM] Randi Harper: dfhdsdsa
4725[01/01/2015, 4:41:45 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Re: us, they keep digging into shit but it's mostly dealing with invasion of privacy than security threats.
4726[01/01/2015, 4:41:49 AM] Randi Harper: OH GAMERGATE U MAD
4727[01/01/2015, 4:41:52 AM] Athena Hollow: Alex: I am happy with whatever you guys want :) Like I said last night, I pretty much don't go anywhere so as long as I can get it on my computer I'm good LOL
4728[01/01/2015, 4:41:56 AM] Rob: lolol
4729[01/01/2015, 4:41:57 AM] Rob: omfg
4730[01/01/2015, 4:42:00 AM] Randi Harper: HAHA
4731[01/01/2015, 4:42:00 AM] Randi Harper: omg
4732[01/01/2015, 4:42:04 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
4733[01/01/2015, 4:42:06 AM] Randi Harper: okay i am stealing that picture and tweeting it
4734[01/01/2015, 4:42:11 AM] Randi Harper: just a sec
4735[01/01/2015, 4:43:01 AM] Alex Lifschitz: As for me, I've talked with my dad and I'm gonna be publishing my Cernovich article anonymously so he doesn't target my family with PIs or shit, especially since they're in the same city.
4736[01/01/2015, 4:43:26 AM] Athena Hollow: makes sense.
4737[01/01/2015, 4:43:44 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/freebsdgirl/status/550391770425856001
4738[01/01/2015, 4:47:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Twitter's auto-replies are getting shorter.
4739
4740----------
4741Hello,
4742 
4743We have received your request and will get back to you as soon as possible. Thanks for your patience!
4744[01/01/2015, 4:47:45 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Is there any other chat will support convo history, btw?
4745[01/01/2015, 4:48:12 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I ask because Zoe and I are always on the run these days and have no kind of constantly-running setup
4746[01/01/2015, 4:48:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: So we'll probably just only be able to see what happens when we can manage to get live somewhere with our laptops
4747[01/01/2015, 4:50:17 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550391464279420928
4748[01/01/2015, 4:50:23 AM] Alex Lifschitz: WOW TB is a fucking dick
4749[01/01/2015, 4:50:25 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. tb.
4750[01/01/2015, 4:50:56 AM] Athena Hollow: could he be anymore fucking pompous?
4751[01/01/2015, 4:51:03 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Can someone start a Trello card for TB logging his pompous self-righteous mansplainy bullshit?
4752[01/01/2015, 4:51:14 AM] Peter Coffin: on it
4753[01/01/2015, 4:51:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh shit, there's so many
4754[01/01/2015, 4:51:19 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4755[01/01/2015, 4:51:23 AM] Athena Hollow: there's at least two today!
4756[01/01/2015, 4:51:25 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4757[01/01/2015, 4:51:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): we need to add "she's still breathing; not credible death threat"
4758[01/01/2015, 4:51:37 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, just start tossing your backlogs in there in case we need them
4759[01/01/2015, 4:51:45 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like any given twitlonger
4760[01/01/2015, 4:51:50 AM] Peter Coffin: his name is John Bane, right?
4761[01/01/2015, 4:52:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Or that time he thinly veiled his mansplaining to Zoe for what to do in case of getting death threats
4762[01/01/2015, 4:52:52 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like "make sure to NOT share them, and CERTAINLY don't use them to demonize any groups of people on the Internet. I know because I am the total biscuit "
4763[01/01/2015, 4:52:55 AM] Tesseract: bain I think
4764[01/01/2015, 4:53:26 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Or when he took "journalist" out of his Twitter bio when he refused to live up to his own standards lol
4765[01/01/2015, 4:53:26 AM] Peter Coffin: I checked it it's in as bain
4766[01/01/2015, 4:54:05 AM] Athena Hollow: LMAO Tess @ your reply to him
4767[01/01/2015, 4:54:17 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550390504220000257
4768[01/01/2015, 4:54:25 AM] Peter Coffin: https://trello.com/c/eFxCd9jR
4769[01/01/2015, 4:54:29 AM] Athena Hollow: god he managed to somehow take his original statement and make it worse
4770[01/01/2015, 4:54:51 AM] Rob: omg
4771[01/01/2015, 4:54:53 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550394399243644928
4772[01/01/2015, 4:54:54 AM] Rob: no
4773[01/01/2015, 4:54:56 AM] Rob: he made it even worser
4774[01/01/2015, 4:55:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
4775[01/01/2015, 4:55:11 AM] Athena Hollow: fuckinggg helllll duddddddddddeeeeeee
4776[01/01/2015, 4:55:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: What a fucking bully
4777[01/01/2015, 4:56:00 AM] Peter Coffin: all three tweets added and archived
4778[01/01/2015, 4:56:22 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550394999796670464
4779[01/01/2015, 4:56:25 AM] Rob: (sun)
4780[01/01/2015, 4:57:12 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/DurpSA
4781[01/01/2015, 4:57:29 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Remember how he was like "no sensible person would ever become a figurehead in gamergate" and also was the number one supporter of the GamerGate thunderclap
4782[01/01/2015, 4:57:29 AM] Randi Harper: does anyone know this person? can they get through the noise to let person know about ggautoblocker? sounds like they are getting swarmed and taking it hard.
4783[01/01/2015, 4:57:36 AM] Tesseract: trying to think of a clever response
4784[01/01/2015, 4:57:46 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't get involved with tb, I don't want him latching on to me. I tend to be the kind of person who makes enemies when I argue because I don't concede especially if everything backs me up
4785[01/01/2015, 4:58:00 AM] Peter Coffin: him on me would likely result in problems for me though, actual ones
4786[01/01/2015, 4:58:32 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the charity was ablegamers, right?
4787[01/01/2015, 4:58:45 AM] Athena Hollow: i believe so
4788[01/01/2015, 4:58:59 AM] Peter Coffin: the youtube fuckass brigade would likely back him in issues against me, and he could likely fuck some shit up for me
4789[01/01/2015, 4:59:23 AM] Peter Coffin: so I'll help fuck with him but if you wonder why I'm not doing the tweet at him and get angry thing that is why
4790[01/01/2015, 4:59:45 AM] Peter Coffin: at this point, I am no one on yt and he is someone
4791[01/01/2015, 5:00:02 AM] Randi Harper: steam has a huge sale on assassin's creed games right now
4792[01/01/2015, 5:00:04 AM] Peter Coffin: I don't want his help but I don't want him reaching out to certain companies
4793[01/01/2015, 5:00:14 AM] Randi Harper: $5/each
4794[01/01/2015, 5:00:51 AM] Rob: whoa
4795[01/01/2015, 5:01:02 AM] Alex Lifschitz: YOURE DRAGGING MINES TB
4796[01/01/2015, 5:01:47 AM] Rob: TY, Randi, always wanted to get AC3 on my desktop
4797[01/01/2015, 5:01:49 AM] Rob: yoink
4798[01/01/2015, 5:02:08 AM] SF: I really enjoyed the AC games I played but they were so similar that I don't know if I'd get anything out of playing another short of a huge overhaul.
4799[01/01/2015, 5:02:31 AM] SF: Like I played the Ezio arc to death. Do you think there's much fundamentally new in the later ones?
4800[01/01/2015, 5:02:47 AM] Rob: ACIV, yes.
4801[01/01/2015, 5:02:50 AM] Rob: The ship combat is incredible.
4802[01/01/2015, 5:02:55 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: anyone have a link to the gamergate bees picture?
4803[01/01/2015, 5:03:06 AM] Rob: I really liked AC3, even though most people didn't
4804[01/01/2015, 5:03:06 AM] Tesseract: "sorry, you're going to need to buy a bigger PR indulgence than that to pardon the sin of being totalbiscuit"
4805[01/01/2015, 5:03:10 AM] Rob: I've barely touched unity so far.
4806[01/01/2015, 5:03:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: someone help me find that bees comic
4807[01/01/2015, 5:03:33 AM] SF: TB blocked me for that tweet hahahaha
4808[01/01/2015, 5:03:41 AM] SF: I don't even think I was rude.
4809[01/01/2015, 5:04:36 AM] Tesseract: yessssss I got blocked
4810[01/01/2015, 5:04:42 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: you guys know what bees comic i'm talking about right
4811[01/01/2015, 5:05:33 AM] Rob: i think i do
4812[01/01/2015, 5:05:35 AM] Rob: but i don't have a link
4813[01/01/2015, 5:05:36 AM] Rob: and im drunk
4814[01/01/2015, 5:05:38 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/SJWIlluminati/status/550396905147334657
4815[01/01/2015, 5:06:12 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550394931291103232
4816[01/01/2015, 5:06:15 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he blocked me as well
4817[01/01/2015, 5:06:17 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn dude, just fucking stoppppppppppp
4818[01/01/2015, 5:07:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, yes, i know the comic. trying to find it
4819[01/01/2015, 5:07:29 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550397742011666433
4820[01/01/2015, 5:07:52 AM] Randi Harper: O_O
4821[01/01/2015, 5:08:00 AM] Randi Harper: i have 17G of tweet metadata.
4822[01/01/2015, 5:08:05 AM] Randi Harper: that's... text. json.
4823[01/01/2015, 5:08:05 AM] SF: >https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550394931291103232
4824
4825"Nice feed ya got there, shame if something was to happen to it..."
4826[01/01/2015, 5:08:05 AM] Athena Hollow: dyum
4827[01/01/2015, 5:08:08 AM] Randi Harper: 17G of text.
4828[01/01/2015, 5:08:13 AM] Randi Harper: holy shitsnacks.
4829[01/01/2015, 5:08:21 AM] Randi Harper: i was al
4830[01/01/2015, 5:08:22 AM] Randi Harper: root@db:/var/db # df -h
4831Filesystem     Size    Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
4832/dev/ada0a     9.7G    2.4G    6.5G    27%    /
4833devfs          1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev
4834fdescfs        1.0K    1.0K      0B   100%    /dev/fd
4835/dev/xbd3p1     19G     17G    829M    95%    /var
4836/dev/xbd2p1     12G    3.8G    6.9G    35%    /var/db/redis
4837/dev/xbd1p1     12G    268M     10G     2%    /var/db/mysql
4838[01/01/2015, 5:08:25 AM] Randi Harper: why is my shit getting full
4839[01/01/2015, 5:08:26 AM] Randi Harper: and then i saw
4840[01/01/2015, 5:08:27 AM] Randi Harper: oh god.
4841[01/01/2015, 5:12:37 AM] Rob: I don't know what that means so I'm going to assume you've hacked the gibson
4842[01/01/2015, 5:12:42 AM] Rob: with your 28.8 kbps modem
4843[01/01/2015, 5:12:45 AM] Rob: hack the planet. something
4844[01/01/2015, 5:13:01 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: her partitions are exploding
4845[01/01/2015, 5:13:05 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: all of da tweets
4846[01/01/2015, 5:13:06 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: p much
4847[01/01/2015, 5:13:15 AM] Rob: Oh
4848[01/01/2015, 5:13:26 AM] SF: Someone made the same joke seconds earlier damnit.
4849[01/01/2015, 5:13:30 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4850[01/01/2015, 5:14:23 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: OK, I just had a nice pleasant visit with one of my favorite relatives and her giant dog, back to misery. Anything notable today?
4851[01/01/2015, 5:14:29 AM] Athena Hollow: tb
4852[01/01/2015, 5:14:34 AM] Athena Hollow: being unbearably shit
4853[01/01/2015, 5:14:34 AM] Tesseract: tb ruined a charity
4854[01/01/2015, 5:14:43 AM] Athena Hollow: and then acted like a fucking baby
4855[01/01/2015, 5:14:46 AM] Tesseract: a stream which my friends were in no less
4856[01/01/2015, 5:14:48 AM] Athena Hollow: AND THEN THREATENED THEM
4857[01/01/2015, 5:15:13 AM] Athena Hollow: https://archive.today/pqk1T
4858
4859Archive of that one, btw, for someone to toss on trello (I haven't had time to figure it out yet lol)
4860[01/01/2015, 5:15:29 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/550399801180041216
4861[01/01/2015, 5:15:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, that comic is 200% spot on
4862[01/01/2015, 5:15:58 AM] Rob: OMG INFO-SEC TAYLOR SWIFT FAVORITED A TWEET OF MINE
4863[01/01/2015, 5:16:00 AM] Rob: SENPAI NOTICED ME~
4864[01/01/2015, 5:16:05 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4865[01/01/2015, 5:16:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): She's not fond of TB either
4866[01/01/2015, 5:16:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): she's awesome
4867[01/01/2015, 5:16:25 AM] Rob: She followed me during my big anti-GG rant I still don't remember b/c  I was blackout drunk.
4868[01/01/2015, 5:16:28 AM] Athena Hollow: I think Nicholas hit the nail on the head: that tb is finally noticing that gamergate is his brand.
4869[01/01/2015, 5:16:39 AM] Rob: I woke up and was like... wait, InfoSec taylor swift, Arthur chu, movie bob... they all followed me? WHAT DID I DO
4870[01/01/2015, 5:16:45 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
4871[01/01/2015, 5:16:47 AM] Athena Hollow: Before gg, someone might have freaked out or been "ew" about him retweeting their stuff
4872[01/01/2015, 5:16:53 AM] Athena Hollow: but afterwards? nope. toxic hell pit.
4873[01/01/2015, 5:17:09 AM] Athena Hollow: maybe now he'll fucking see that siding with a goddamn hate group is a bad fucking idea.
4874[01/01/2015, 5:18:00 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Only follower I have that weirds me out is Graham Linehan
4875[01/01/2015, 5:18:28 AM] Rob: I just - I don't really say anything profound, half the time I'm just drunk talking about random games or w/e.
4876[01/01/2015, 5:18:35 AM] Rob: So I'm like 'waitwhat'
4877[01/01/2015, 5:18:48 AM] SF: Added that one, Athena.
4878[01/01/2015, 5:18:51 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Eh, you've had some pretty amazing tirades
4879[01/01/2015, 5:19:00 AM] Athena Hollow: thx sf
4880[01/01/2015, 5:19:07 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/550395484071018496 loooooooooool
4881[01/01/2015, 5:19:14 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: often enough that you're one of those people I don't follow just because of sheet tweet volume management
4882[01/01/2015, 5:19:41 AM] Athena Hollow: fuckin crybaby
4883[01/01/2015, 5:19:48 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
4884[01/01/2015, 5:20:01 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck it
4885[01/01/2015, 5:20:05 AM] Athena Hollow: dont worry peter
4886[01/01/2015, 5:20:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550400987090132992
4887[01/01/2015, 5:20:10 AM] Athena Hollow: we had it handled bro :)
4888[01/01/2015, 5:20:23 AM] Athena Hollow: don't go gettin your hands all in this shit lol
4889[01/01/2015, 5:20:24 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550401027581550595
4890[01/01/2015, 5:20:28 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
4891[01/01/2015, 5:20:31 AM] Athena Hollow: LMFAO
4892[01/01/2015, 5:20:34 AM] Athena Hollow: ok that was good.
4893[01/01/2015, 5:20:53 AM] Rob: <3, understandable, SGG
4894[01/01/2015, 5:20:55 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAHA what an idiot.
4895[01/01/2015, 5:21:01 AM] Rob: and thank you
4896[01/01/2015, 5:21:02 AM] Peter Coffin: it's too hard for me to avoid aggravating shit from people like that
4897[01/01/2015, 5:21:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Thought he was gonna be smart & tagged the autobot XD
4898[01/01/2015, 5:21:09 AM] Rob: I know I'm a high volume feed, mainly b/c I'm nearly always at a computer and bored
4899[01/01/2015, 5:21:38 AM] Randi Harper: what the fuck, twitter.
4900[01/01/2015, 5:21:39 AM] Rob: I'm a social recluse IRL and like super shy + anxiety disorders, so stuff like twitter, Skype, etc are my social outlets.
4901[01/01/2015, 5:21:43 AM] Randi Harper: i'm going to have to do some post-processing on all of my data
4902[01/01/2015, 5:21:49 AM] Randi Harper: because twitter search included shit that is not at all related.
4903[01/01/2015, 5:21:53 AM] Athena Hollow: lame
4904[01/01/2015, 5:21:55 AM] Rob: B/c I get really anxious even around people I know super well
4905[01/01/2015, 5:23:24 AM] Randi Harper: this user https://twitter.com/XtinaGCarrera retweeted this status https://twitter.com/cuartopoder/status/541695372469747712 and it was picked up by the filters.
4906[01/01/2015, 5:23:24 AM] Peter Coffin: my wife is that way, I understand rob
4907[01/01/2015, 5:23:32 AM] SF: Yeah, I perform an overconfident extrovert online just to balance out the fact I hyperventilate at the thought of talking to cashiers in meatspace.
4908[01/01/2015, 5:23:33 AM] Athena Hollow: Need to get you hanging around me IRL more often. A ton of my friends were that way before hanging out w/ me LOL
4909[01/01/2015, 5:23:35 AM] Randi Harper: there's others. the only common denominator is that lang isn't en.
4910[01/01/2015, 5:23:45 AM] Randi Harper: fuck you, twitter.
4911[01/01/2015, 5:23:45 AM] SF: Complex PTSD is one of my least recommended pastimes.
4912[01/01/2015, 5:23:47 AM] Peter Coffin: I get really anxous with certain things, but she has it much worse, most situations are very hard for her
4913[01/01/2015, 5:23:53 AM] Athena Hollow: including my friend steve who literally never talked LOL
4914[01/01/2015, 5:24:03 AM] Rob: Yeah Peter - it's like, I can force myself to deal with stuff b/c I just have no other choice, but if I have any choice to avoid stuff whatsoever, I take it
4915[01/01/2015, 5:24:16 AM] Peter Coffin: she does that too
4916[01/01/2015, 5:24:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Athena, it's because you're so cool
4917[01/01/2015, 5:24:18 AM] Rob: and Athena, most people don't realize I'm shy.
4918[01/01/2015, 5:24:32 AM] Rob: I've literally had people say "Shut the fuck up" when I said I'm shy and have extreme social anxiety.
4919[01/01/2015, 5:24:42 AM] Rob: And it's like, a diagnosed thing, too. I literally have SAD
4920[01/01/2015, 5:24:45 AM] Rob: Not just "I'm shy"
4921[01/01/2015, 5:24:57 AM] Athena Hollow: steve had sad as well :D
4922[01/01/2015, 5:25:02 AM] Athena Hollow: I'M JUST THAT GOOD YO
4923[01/01/2015, 5:25:15 AM] Peter Coffin: but what did mr. rogers have, that's what's important
4924[01/01/2015, 5:25:26 AM] Peter Coffin: what mr. rogers thinks and feels
4925[01/01/2015, 5:25:42 AM] Rob: I like that urban legend about mr. rogers being a CIA assassin.
4926[01/01/2015, 5:26:00 AM] Rob: and Athena <3 I do wanna hang out and visit you, and not just b/c you live near gencon
4927[01/01/2015, 5:26:19 AM] Tesseract: alright I'd like a definitive answer to the chat question soon
4928[01/01/2015, 5:26:36 AM] Athena Hollow: gencon is just a good excuse to get people here
4929[01/01/2015, 5:26:38 AM] Rob: I think Randi is gonna set up an IRC thing after the 4th if that's what we want? is what she said?
4930[01/01/2015, 5:26:39 AM] Athena Hollow: two birds, one stone :D
4931[01/01/2015, 5:26:51 AM] Rob: Esp. if I have a place to crash
4932[01/01/2015, 5:26:57 AM] Rob: And can get picked up from an airport.
4933[01/01/2015, 5:27:09 AM] Rob: I imagine there are direct flights from Reagan to Indianananananananapopoulus
4934[01/01/2015, 5:27:13 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4935[01/01/2015, 5:27:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/550402747594326016
4936[01/01/2015, 5:27:59 AM] Randi Harper: LOL https://twitter.com/chrisvcsefalvay/status/549320979617705984
4937[01/01/2015, 5:28:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
4938[01/01/2015, 5:28:31 AM] Peter Coffin: uhhhhhh, isn't that literally what black kids deal with
4939[01/01/2015, 5:28:33 AM] Peter Coffin: non stop
4940[01/01/2015, 5:28:42 AM] Peter Coffin: hell all black people
4941[01/01/2015, 5:28:55 AM] Peter Coffin: like that is as privileged as it gets, that statement right there
4942[01/01/2015, 5:30:08 AM] Athena Hollow: goddamn he's dumb
4943[01/01/2015, 5:30:25 AM] Athena Hollow: you don't need us to educate you you fuckin idiot. There's a whole WORLD of education at your fingertips
4944[01/01/2015, 5:31:08 AM] SF: Moving chat chat to serious ->
4945[01/01/2015, 5:32:03 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: did the people in the stream directly comment on TB's endorsement? anyone have a link?
4946[01/01/2015, 5:32:18 AM] Tesseract: I can ask
4947[01/01/2015, 5:32:20 AM] SF: Nevermind! So we should reach a consensus on chat rather than doing a vote.
4948[01/01/2015, 5:32:28 AM] drinternetphd: wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
4949[01/01/2015, 5:32:29 AM] drinternetphd: http://gyazo.com/332d5729fe3fc1011d2d516cb0392556
4950[01/01/2015, 5:32:38 AM] drinternetphd: that's not vaguely threatening at all
4951[01/01/2015, 5:32:48 AM] SF: Yup, already put that on Trello.
4952[01/01/2015, 5:33:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh hey, is Gencon sneaking up again?
4953[01/01/2015, 5:33:27 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Also morning Zoe
4954[01/01/2015, 5:33:37 AM] Athena Hollow: nah not till august :)
4955[01/01/2015, 5:33:44 AM] Peter Coffin: morning zoe
4956[01/01/2015, 5:33:46 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i posted that on ghazi but people seem unhappy with how i framed it. not sure if i should take it down
4957[01/01/2015, 5:33:51 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck tb so much
4958[01/01/2015, 5:34:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Holy cow what a fucking bully
4959[01/01/2015, 5:34:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): fuck this: https://twitter.com/SomeKindaBoogin/status/550404004891873280
4960[01/01/2015, 5:35:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, I've noticed that on reddit, even in Ghazi, people are quick to defend TB
4961[01/01/2015, 5:36:31 AM] Rob: Yeah zoe, Arthur chu and i called him out on that
4962[01/01/2015, 5:36:50 AM] Rob: like i said on twitter, he sounds like a fucking mobster looking for protection money
4963[01/01/2015, 5:36:59 AM] Rob: "mighty fine shop you have here, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it"
4964[01/01/2015, 5:37:19 AM] Randi Harper: fuck the haters, you do you.
4965[01/01/2015, 5:37:20 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i dont know if i should remove the ghazi post or not
4966[01/01/2015, 5:37:23 AM] drinternetphd: I mean that's kind of what he said to me early on too
4967[01/01/2015, 5:37:24 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/550405309248716802
4968[01/01/2015, 5:37:33 AM] drinternetphd: I tried talking to him privately and it was fucking pointless
4969[01/01/2015, 5:37:46 AM] drinternetphd: he even brought up the patently moronic "personal paypal" argumen
4970[01/01/2015, 5:37:56 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Ig's screenshot there looks chatbotty to me
4971[01/01/2015, 5:38:08 AM] Tesseract: don't remove the ghazi post
4972[01/01/2015, 5:38:28 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i mean, how i framed it was intentionally hyperbolic
4973[01/01/2015, 5:38:30 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/RCColaMoonpies/status/550405355503902720 My mentions right now.
4974[01/01/2015, 5:38:41 AM] Athena Hollow: is it possible to rename?
4975[01/01/2015, 5:38:53 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: doesn't let you
4976[01/01/2015, 5:39:27 AM] Athena Hollow: Damn. Was gonna say "My 390000 followers can't possibly be threatening" would have worked.
4977[01/01/2015, 5:39:43 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh.
4978[01/01/2015, 5:40:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Secret, were you refering to one of my screenshots?
4979[01/01/2015, 5:41:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): On 01/01/2015, at 5:37 AM, Secret Gamer Girl wrote:
4980> Ig's screenshot there looks chatbotty to me
4981
4982[01/01/2015, 5:43:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
4983[01/01/2015, 5:43:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Which one?
4984[01/01/2015, 5:43:26 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://twitter.com/SomeKindaBoogin/status/550404004891873280
4985[01/01/2015, 5:43:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: or, tweet links really
4986[01/01/2015, 5:43:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
4987[01/01/2015, 5:43:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I see
4988[01/01/2015, 5:44:03 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/ChipBrent/status/550405687919259648 wtf are they on about
4989[01/01/2015, 5:44:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: that's just the right mix of "this makes no sense at all" and "wait, the two halves of this sentence seem common"
4990[01/01/2015, 5:44:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Sarah, i don't know. they've been doing that lately, hinting about stuff regarding you
4991[01/01/2015, 5:45:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah. the rest of @SomeKindaBoogin's feed look human enough
4992[01/01/2015, 5:45:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm pretty close to the point where I want to stop blocking people and start calling them on it when they say I'm misrepresenting them
4993[01/01/2015, 5:45:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: because I don't think any of them have a response in their back pocket at the moment for what they're "really about"
4994[01/01/2015, 5:49:55 AM] drinternetphd: http://i.gyazo.com/87dd8075765e40450f11fd8ba149b8be.png
4995[01/01/2015, 5:49:59 AM] drinternetphd: maybe you could calm down
4996[01/01/2015, 5:51:22 AM] Athena Hollow: I've got a cross for him to wear if he really needs it.
4997[01/01/2015, 5:52:06 AM] Athena Hollow: love the "self righteous sociopaths" remark after he willfully skewers someone saying "I don't want your help with my charity event"
4998[01/01/2015, 5:52:31 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/550408964752826369
4999[01/01/2015, 5:52:34 AM] Rob: (sun)
5000[01/01/2015, 5:52:37 AM] Peter Coffin: he is perhaps a non-violent sociopath