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10An Open Letter to the Community - HF22.5
11steemitblog 74  •  8 hours ago (Edited)
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14An Open Letter to the Community
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16On February 22, 2020, Steem Witnesses launched Soft Fork 22.2, with the sole intent to freeze the original stakes owned by Steemit, Inc.
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18Originally, as the core development team behind the Steem blockchain and key contributor to the ecosystem, Steemit used their stake for continued development of the Steem blockchain, onboarding users, and not voting for witnesses. The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions. With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community. Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.
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20Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal. The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member, on any terms they want. They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger. This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.
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22On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.
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24Commitment to the Community
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26    The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.
27    Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.
28    For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses. The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, add transparency, and receive community suggestions and advice.
29    After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.
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31Product Roadmap
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33The Steemit team had a very productive and exciting conversation with TRON on the future roadmap and we can’t wait to share this with everyone. The following features are what we will be focusing on:
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35    Maintain Steem blockchain running in parallel with TRON
36    Launch Smart Media Tokens
37    Launch Cross Chain Atomic Swaps
38    Improve Overall Steemit.com User Experience And Onboard More Users
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40Smart Media Tokens (SMTs)
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42SMTs are on our public testnet. We have GitHub testing issues created that once completed will ensure confidence in the release.
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44Alongside the SMT release is the SMT Wizard, a simple front end for creating SMTs, and client libraries. Client library work is mostly done except for small changes being made to the protocol during testing and is awaiting testing.
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46Cross Chain Atomic Swaps (CCAS)
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48CCAS will use a combination of Hashed Timelocked Contracts (HTLC) and Header Only Verification (HOV) to seamlessly move tokens (STEEM, TRC-20s, and SMTs) between TRON and Steem.
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50Steemit.com User Experience Improvements
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52Steemit.com is an opportunity to onboard massive numbers of users into our ecosystem through a social network / viral media model, now with TRON’s ecosystem and resources, this goal is more achievable than ever.
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54We are on target for feature parity with reddit.com. With communities core launched, we are very close to this goal. The remaining tasks are around onboarding, including an invite system for new accounts, and optimizing content discovery.
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56Specifically, our primary goal is to emphasize the organic and sustainable models for growth that Steemit.com enables. We plan on doing this by:
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58    Lowering the barriers to entry by streamlining the signup and first-use experience on steemit.com and on the Steem blockchain.
59    Contributing to the quality and authenticity of the user base by implementing an invite / referral signup system.
60    Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads, optimizing the front page, making the rewards system easy to use through browser extensions, and integrating the wallet with the main site.
61    Enhancing the mobile experience.
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63More Rewards to Witnesses
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65Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards.
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67More Users
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69TRON is known for its thriving ecosystem, and now Steemit has access to TRON’s active 15 million user community, a distribution network of over 600 million DAU, meanwhile leveraging TRON’s powerful marketing resources as well as some top industry leaders.
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71More Content
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73A social network without content won’t go far. Steemit.com has a perfect foundation and we will reward more to the content creators and/or curators to feed the users.
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75More Development
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77More developer support will be provided. Not only do we have access to more engineer support, but also we can run more hackathons and devote more capital to support the development of community projects.
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79More Liquidity
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81We’ll be learning a lot from TRON’s team on how to build a healthy exchange relationship and we’ll be having more conversations with exchanges to learn the best way to get listed and have more trading pairs.
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83A Brighter Future
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85Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history, but now with TRON’s resources and ecosystem behind it, it’s time to course correct and build a healthier and thriving ecosystem around this dynamic community.
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87This will be nothing but an exciting future.
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89The Steemit Team
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99575 Comments
100holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
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102    More Rewards to Witnesses
103    Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards.
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105But a platform like this is nothing without content. Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly? Do people use reddit, instagram, and facebook to see drama about reddit, instagram and facebook?
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107No, they go there to follow and discuss things that they are interested in.
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109We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities.
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115emrebeyler 74 8 hours ago
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117It's a strategy to say that "witness rewards will be boosted" because in the end they need witnesses supporting this hostile takeover. Think it is like a bribe.
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122tarazkp 79 6 hours ago
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124It is a bribe. But the witnesses will be the exchanges and Tron BPs or whatever they are called.
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126"Community" witnesses.
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131v4vapid 72 6 hours ago
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133Completely, this is to ensure compliance with the new CENTRAL AUTHORITY!
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138berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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143tarazkp 79 5 hours ago
144All aboard the C-Train!!
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146^It works on several levels.
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151aagabriel 57 5 hours ago
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153FUCK YOU STEEMIT.jpg
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158whatsthatcryptom 55 6 hours ago
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160They HAVE witnesses appointed at the moment. Who do you think they have to talk to?
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165berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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170holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
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172While at the end of the day, witnesses are needed to maintain the infrastructure - what is the point of infrastructure or the blockchain at all if creators aren't rewarded in an equitable manner?
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174As I stated - people don't come to steem to see the marvels of its underlying technology, they come for the ability to etch their statements into an immutable ledger, get a reward in exchange for that, or to share their creations with the world.
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179therealwolf 74 6 hours ago
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181Imagine there would be only Steemit. No SteemMonsters, DTube, 3Speak, Steempeak, SteemWorld,etc.
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186holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
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188It doesn't stop the stuff running on the chain, it just takes away the incentive.
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190Also, do I read this in an Elton John sing song voice?
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195blacklux 67 5 hours ago
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197Oh wow, thanks! Impossible to read that without singing now! XD
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202holoz0r 70 5 hours ago
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204Sorry, not sorry. Great song though!
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209jerrytsuseer 66 4 hours ago
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211I don't get it.
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216bobydimitrov 52 3 hours ago
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218And no wonder you don't get it when @holoz0r meant John Lennon, not Elton John...
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223kus-knee 74 3 hours ago
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225John Lennon I think.
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230ciska 50 6 hours ago
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232Imagine there could be a hell of a lot more if it wasn't for most of the witnesses their greed.
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237berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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242nationalpark 63 3 hours ago
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244Don't worry, new APPs will fill the vacuum
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249bobinson 63 5 hours ago
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251    While at the end of the day, witnesses are needed to maintain the infrastructure - what is the point of infrastructure or the blockchain at all if creators aren't rewarded in an equitable manner?
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253Its a bad approach and we have seen it failing first hand. There must be an intrinsic utility value provided by the chain like dApp which generates revenue. Otherwise, the system is flawed.
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258holoz0r 70 5 hours ago
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260A suggestion could be that when a post is promoted or featured, the money used for that promotion or feature is spread to the accounts that delivered page views or clicks on that promotion, paying content creators for the impressions made.
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262It's need an ad sense like anti spam / anti gaming mechanism to stop bots, but it's another way to share revenue.
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267bobinson 63 5 hours ago
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269yes, something like that. A part of the revenue can be paid back to the apps. In anycase we are seeing the first generation apps and also seeing the issues around it. What we are witnessing, IMHO is the evolutionary steps in the blockchain paradigm. Time will tell beyond the Bitcoin usecase, will the public-ledger will live or not.
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274holoz0r 70 5 hours ago
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276I hope so. I came to this chain to say what I want and to stand by the history of what I say, acknowledging that my changing opinions and thoughts of matters can be scrutinised openly.
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278It's okay for someone to change their opinion and outline the reasons for it.
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280It is n it okay for them to delete all traces of what their opinion or idea was at a certain stage of history.
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285bobinson 63 4 hours ago
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287Interestingly I was reading a paper given below today ...
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294berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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299galenkp 74 8 hours ago
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301Witness's = Tron puppets on strings.
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306mindtrap 72 7 hours ago
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308They didn’t even set @null or something as beneficiary....
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310Hahaha...pathetic
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315galenkp 74 7 hours ago
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317And downvoted my comment...
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324berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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329ciska 50 6 hours ago
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331You shouldn't be hostile to begin with.
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337galenkp 74 6 hours ago
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339Freedom of speech, I believe in it, which is why I will not downvote your comment.
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344ash 72 6 hours ago
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346downvotes do not limit your freedom of speech
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351mindtrap 72 6 hours ago
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353He just wanted to point out that they already started using their stake.
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355He wasn’t offended by the DV...
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360ash 72 6 hours ago
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362ahh, misunderstanding then! sorry :)
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367galenkp 74 6 hours ago
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369Thanks mate, I wasn't going to bother saying this, but I appreciate you doing so @mindtrap
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381berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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386tarazkp 79 8 hours ago
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388The witnesses are theirs... they don't give AF
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393holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
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395Popcorn sales through the roof right now, I'm sure!
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400bobinson 63 5 hours ago
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402and Netflix subscriptions are getting cancelled!
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407streetstyle 72 3 hours ago
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409did someone say !popcorn ?
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414adetorrent 74 7 hours ago
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419nonsowrites 69 7 hours ago
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421Ditto
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426berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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431adetorrent 74 4 hours ago
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433It’s 2 years for me, but it hurts like 4 :/
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438atma.love 54 5 hours ago
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440Where can we regroup to discuss tactics? Not here on 22.5. Can we somehow connect to 22.2 which presumably previous witnesses are still running?
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445tarazkp 79 5 hours ago
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447I am guessing they are forking the chain as we speak...
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452atma.love 54 5 hours ago
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454let me know when you see announcements please, in case i miss.
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459ura-soul 74 4 hours ago
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461My thoughts on all of this are here - Anarchy vs. Empire. ;)
462https://steempeak.com/witness/@ura-soul/ura-soul-witness-update-anarchy-vs-empire-tron-replaces-top-witnesses-and-takes-over-the-steem-blockchain
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467crypto.piotr 69 7 hours ago
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469Hi @holoz0r
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471    But a platform like this is nothing without content.
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473Very true. Correct me if I'm wrong - but did current witnesses supported content creators? Most of them unfortunatelly didn't.
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475Perhaps new witnesses will.
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477    Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly?
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479I rather see witnessed being rewarded instead of seeing steem being dumped on the market, the way STINC has been doing for very long.
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481    We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities.
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483YOu nailed it.
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485Yours, Piotr
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490holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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492Thank you. I've made this opinion known for quite some time, and even tried to get a witness node up and running myself at one point.
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494I respect the work that is done by curie, ocd, csquared, and other such community accounts and projects, and support them with my witness votes.
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496Witnesses were more than sustainable, and many do delegate to curation projects, and competitions which promoted people to bring new content to steem, but these rewards were not ... as philanthropic as say, patrons in the traditional art world.
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501rafalski 64 6 hours ago
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503    Perhaps new witnesses will.
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505there are no new witnesse, these 20 accounts are SUN the dictator
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510aagabriel 57 5 hours ago
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512@crypto.piotr
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514    Perhaps new witnesses will.
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516there are no new witnesse, these 20 accounts are SUN the dictator
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521berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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526enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
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528In re:
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530    A very select few were on trails and if you bugged a few enough times, they would vote your post, but very very very rarely did you get a comment out of them.
531    I think the current rewards are a little skewed, top 20's make a killin while backups not so much. More of a linear curve would be better.
532    Exactly.
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537berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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542cadawg 68 3 hours ago
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544What new witnesses? They're all justin sun
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549enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
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551You know what would be really funny? If they froze all those witnesses that froze them, just you know, temporarily.
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556jaki01 73 6 hours ago
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558I hope both sides find a way to deescalate the situation ...
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563enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
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565Hear, here hombre. I imagine some have already coded a hardfork are working on it right now to make a 'new steem' apart from TRON. Saddens me most that they didn't even really give new management a chance to prove themselves. I'm hoping for the best!
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570berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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575chronocrypto 72 3 hours ago
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577That would sure be hilarious.
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582dalz 67 4 hours ago
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584The 30 witnesses voting rule.
585That is who to blame!
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587Lesson learned the hard way.
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592drakos 69 4 hours ago
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594He wants to reward HIS witnesses.
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599moeknows 58 7 hours ago
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601I think it's kind of telling that one of the first things they want to do after gaining the top 20 witness accounts is to give more rewards to the witnesses.
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606holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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608It'd have to be some pretty significant bribe to make it worth their while.
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610This is a bit of counter ransom, to the initial ransom that was 0.22.2 Soft Fork.
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615enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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617Ransom, good word.
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622holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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624Just put it between H1 headers and bold, and its even better. :D
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629enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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631!giphy ha+ha+ha+funny
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636giphy 52 7 hours ago
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640giphy is supported by witness untersatz!
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645enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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647Not what I was going for but oh wells. LOL
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652holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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654Bot does what the bot wants.
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656Apt though, I suspect for many, this is exactly what they'll do, walk through a door (or a lift) and never return.
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661enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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663Change is scary man, especially when it hits some of them in the pocketbook. The funniest thing is one of the witnesses names is @nicetry001 bwahahahaaa!
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668holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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670waitforyou1 is poignant as well
671coronashallgo ....
672waitforyou1 ...
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677enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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679Or or or, goodguy123 instead of someguy123? Was a little thought put into the names.
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684holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
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686definitely
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691enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
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693Community indeed!
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698berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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703aagabriel 57 5 hours ago
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705Scummunity
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710mobbs 69 6 hours ago
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712You say that like anyone in power is reading comments lolz
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717holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
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719I'm reading the replies to this - and its something I'm super passionate about, and always have been!
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724mobbs 69 5 hours ago
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726Yeah I mean JSun and co aren't. Maybe get a vague inkling of who's on their side. They don't give a rats butt what we think here in the comments
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731berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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736aljif7 58 4 hours ago
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738It looks like the ambience in steemit will be worse.
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743berniesanders 76 6 hours ago
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745Everything that has been done that past 4 years here was just wiped out by a fucking communist piece of shit. Congrats @ned and @justinsunsteemit, you just made Steem 100% worthless.
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747Fucking halfwits.
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753daan 68 5 hours ago
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755Fucking hell, never thought I'd actually say this, but you seem to have been right all along.
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760drakos 69 4 hours ago
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762We told you so.
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767daan 68 4 hours ago
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769Fair play, I didn't see this coming, but it's impossible to ignore anymore.
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774berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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776Amen.
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781daan 68 4 hours ago
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783Yeah, if only you could combine all your insults from the past couple of years and send them towards Ned and Justin. They completely deserve it
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788geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
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790He might have destroyed Tron by this action too. You were right all along. These scammers like JustinSun are sneaky.
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795atma.love 54 5 hours ago
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797How can we get out of this? Where to discuss? Don't really wanna do it here on this illegal hardfork.
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802mobbs 69 5 hours ago
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804I mean, just get out of Steem. Even if he took back this move, who would want to work on a blockchain owned by such a character constantly casting his red shadow? Sounds kinda gross
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809atma.love 54 5 hours ago
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811I dont wanna get out of Steem, just this crooked hardfork version
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816berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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821tsnaks 63 5 hours ago
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823What's this 4 about ?
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825About how many crocs Justins' nan sells everyday `?
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830stoodkev 69 3 hours ago
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8324 and death are pronounced the same in Chinese
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837chronocrypto 72 3 hours ago
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839#steemclassic
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844vampire-steem 47 6 hours ago
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846Steemit finally went to hell? How terrible.
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851ssjsasha 67 3 hours ago
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853It didn’t take long for your optimism to get wiped out.
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858whatsthatcryptom 55 6 hours ago
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860@berniesanders Downvoted because you self voted and think your response is valuable in any way but it actually isn't.
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866berniesanders 76 6 hours ago
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868Congrats. You’re a fucking douchebag with a $0 vote. Poor pleb.
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873whatsthatcryptom 55 6 hours ago
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875Whahaha you are even more stupid then I thought. Being a bully because you got yourself some stake (good luck using that). You are a hostile person and when I read your comments I am not sure if some rich kid is trolling or if you are serious. So much anger. Well Karma is a bitch.
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880berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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882No, no, your mom is the bitch. Don't get confused.
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887whatsthatcryptom 55 4 hours ago
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889Exactly my point
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894berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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899geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
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901Justin has shown he doesn’t care about decentralization or blockchain at all. Way to throw his reputation to garbage in this space. Nobody will take him seriously again.
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903Give me my Steem back. Hard fork already!
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909mobbs 69 6 hours ago
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911He's from China, under the wing of Jack Ma, two of the most centralised entities on the planet. Not that surprising
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916geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
917
918Well, you seem to be right. Binance, huobi, and tron orchestrated this take over together. Looks like they all are connected and act like mafia.
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923bil.prag 67 4 hours ago
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925I am not informed about this so Binance in their contracts is free to do with peoples coin whatever they want? if that is right, maybe people should know that.
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930holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
931
932A lot of witness nodes are physically centralised in European data centres. They're spread out, sure - but Steem was never as decentralised as other cryptocurrency projects are.
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937geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
938
939So one person running the Steem and 21 different voted in by thousands of users is the same to you?
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944holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
945
946No, definitely not. This is a hostile takeover, but a good time to talk about the physical decentralisation along with the benefits of multiple, independent human beings (proof of brain!) running the chain simultaneously.
947
948We can have both.
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953geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
954
955I don't think so. Not until this is settled. Dictatorship vs people at this point. If people win then we can talk about other issues, otherwise, there is no point.
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960holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
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962Wherever the community goes, I'll go.
963
964There's no point scrawling out my life on a wall that no one reads or engages in. :)
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969berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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974nationalpark 63 6 hours ago
975
976If you know @freedom or @pumpkin, you would know Steem is not decentralized long time ago. That account was able to decide whether a witness can be top 20
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981geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
982
983You have no clue, freedom is an opportunist and profiteer. Not a dictator.
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988nationalpark 63 3 hours ago
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990Right, I have no clue who is freedom/pumpkin. Do you have any information about him?
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995berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1000ciska 50 6 hours ago
1001
1002Finally someone with reason. Give to people who build bridges instead of walls (softforkwink)
1003I was happy someone like Justin bought into this project. And we gave him a warm welcome. It shameful and I hope order will be restored quickly! We could have reached out to them, request a meeting, open dialog, find balance. No, @justinsunsteemit MIGHT be hostile, let's destroy ourselves and block him out. Let's start a war. Unbelievable
1004@steemitblog, If you need a witness who stands behind you and is passionate about making this place awesome, sustainable and profitable. I am here for you.
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1010aagabriel 57 5 hours ago
1011
1012    We could have reached out to them, request a meeting, open dialog, find balance. No, @justinsunsteemit MIGHT be hostile, let's destroy ourselves and block him out. Let's start a war. Unbelievable
1013    @steemitblog, If you need a witness who stands behind you and is passionate about making this place awesome, sustainable and profitable. I am here for you.
1014
1015Bootlicker.
1016
1017You just want to protect your own "investment" without realizing what is actually at stake. Freedom of speech and immutability is what made the ChiCom Knight Steemplar Justin Sun come running to take this over...
1018
1019beg for scraps, slave. It's all you will ever get.
1020
1021Justin Sun's interest in tech mergers and acquisitions has NEVER been beneficial for both parties, only one! And you know why? Because the ChiCom party is the ONLY Party.
1022
1023One party to rule them all. Your life for the Party. Aint no party like a coronavirus party.
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1028ciska 50 5 hours ago
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1030Omg in these times you really see how dumb some people actually are.
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1035aagabriel 57 4 hours ago
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1042holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
1043
1044I tried to get a node up and running once upon a time. It was a difficult journey I gave up on as my personal funds wouldn't support it on an ongoing matter. I also wanted to own the physical hardware, not rent it. :)
1045
1046We shall see what the next few days bring.
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1051ciska 50 6 hours ago
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1053I am pretty sure some of the witnesses will not need their equipment anymore. Could strike a bargain
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1058holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
1059
1060Most of that hardware is in European data centres, not owned by them, but leased.
1061
1062A lot of it is Intel gear as well, that basically needs a nuclear powerplant to run. :P
1063
1064I'd rather have AMD EPYC hardware at this point :P
1065
1066I've got no room in the house to put it, let alone the knowledge of how to get a witness node up and running.
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1071aagabriel 57 4 hours ago
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1078forykw 64 6 hours ago
1079
1080Done that passed that long time ago... then tried EOS... then gave up... =) I have better and bigger machines where I work that I can't use for this.. and not having codes that can use the full potential of hardware even if the target is to sustain decentralization, its not a good path in my view.
1081
1082Performance from some players might be better, but that does not mean they have the same profits or play in the game. For the later, you have real'estate. Not blockchain.
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1087holoz0r 70 6 hours ago
1088
1089It would be nice if setting up a node was as easy as it was to mine dogecoin back in the day. :)
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1094berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1099ocupation 68 3 hours ago
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1101Yeah, you seem like a good choice to secure the blockchain. Lol
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1106bobinson 63 8 hours ago
1107
1108Where can we see the code for HF22.5 ?
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1113ben 54 6 hours ago
1114
1115Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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1121v4vapid 72 5 hours ago
1122
1123Thanks for killing Steem @ben, great job!
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1128mindtrap 72 4 hours ago
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1130You mean @ned...
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1135berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1140jedigeiss 71 6 hours ago
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1142Full support! Where is the code
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1147berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1152joanstewart 65 6 hours ago
1153
1154Noticed only the "new" witnesses have thee 22.5 code, all at the top, cuddly cozy little spot.
1155
1156Devil is always in the details....
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1161bala41288 69 7 hours ago
1162
1163I guess the code is not open anymore as the chain is not decentralized anymore. :)
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1169netuoso 70 7 hours ago
1170
1171You can't. Not only is it centralized it is closed source and owned by the Chinese government
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1177aagabriel 57 5 hours ago
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1179YEP!
1180antimalware.news-Trojan-horse.jpg
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1185roelandp 74 8 hours ago
1186
1187Do you understand this is exactly what we wanted to prevent?
1188
1189With this move you:
1190
1191    literally killed Steem.
1192    used Customer Funds, called your "friends" at exchanges. And without customer knowing, used funds residing on exchanges, to power up and vote.
1193    centralised the Steem chain.
1194
1195Preventing this is the reason why softfork 22.2 was implemented in the first place. But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges. We discussed it but we could not believe crypto-world would be so stupid. Apparently exchanges pick a side.
1196
1197Please understand you have killed a wonderful community of four years. Real people. From all over the world. Not bots or gambling apps.
1198
1199Maybe your chain will continue, but it will be an empty shell. Happy pumping.
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1205tarazkp 79 7 hours ago
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1207seriously, they used the stake to downvote comments....
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1212scooter77 67 7 hours ago
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1214@ben is a steem whale. Early Adopter. Not sure how he is aligned to Steemit....
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1219apsu 65 6 hours ago
1220
1221It's a Justin Sun/Steemit account.
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1226enforcer48 68 7 hours ago
1227
1228That account has been sold.
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1233tarazkp 79 6 hours ago
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1235@ned is/was a steem whale. Early founder.
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1240tuck-fheman 74 7 hours ago
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1247fervi 66 6 hours ago
1248
1249But you fucked up
1250
1251I'm sorry to say this, but you've been neglecting yourself for years, leading to Steem's death. That wasn't done by Justin Sun, but by Witnesses (and many whales).
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1256scooter77 67 7 hours ago
1257
1258And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason? That doesn't make sense and obviously won't be a community decision! Centralization at it's best!
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1263enforcer48 68 5 hours ago
1264
1265So his exchange buddies can power down all the customers' funds they powered up to save STINC stake.
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1270ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
1271
1272Why? Of course to un-power all what's recyclable, and probably to somewhat defend against any attempt to enforce things like https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights with its 30 day period, but of course that one is dead anyways, as it can be issued ONLY by the owner of given account (owner decides to do a self-locking). It's dead because no malicious user will ever decide to self-lock the voting rights, and I don't expect steemit or justin or exchanges to do that, especially now. Considering that the steem API probably doesn't have any "lock that bad guy" ops (that could be easily misused), then changing the power-down period now can only mean one thing: INCOMING RAPID FUND DRAIN.
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1277berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1282sneak 64 5 hours ago
1283
1284    And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason?
1285
1286After centralizing the chain so totally and all of the dapps shutting down in protest, it would otherwise take weeks for every single user to rush to the exits as fast as possible and the price of STEEM to tank to zero. This way, the dumping can commence the day after they unilaterally change monetary/issuance policy of their centrally-managed, centrally-issued, unregistered publicly traded security.
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1291fredrikaa 69 4 hours ago
1292
1293I think it's more likely that they had to agree on doing this in order to have the exchanges move along with powering up all of their user's STEEM.
1294
1295They knew that as soon as the SP on the exchanges was used to give back voting rights to the Steemit Inc accounts, those in turn can implement the new fork and they wouldn't need to use the tokens on those exchanges for voting anymore.
1296
1297So the power down is likely added to allow the exchanges to power down quickly again once everything is "back in order", so that their users won't be too mad.
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1302joythewanderer 77 7 hours ago
1303
1304    But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges.
1305
1306because it's not "officially" inc accounts lol
1307softfork was soft af
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1312roelandp 74 6 hours ago
1313
1314no exactly.
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1316little could one know exchanges just pick sides.
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1321ciska 50 6 hours ago
1322
1323So you mean witnesses started this hostile behavior without taking into consideration what the consequences could be? Looks to me like a plan that was quickly setup out of fear and the biggest shouters got their deal. Freezing their accouns was by far the biggest mistakes you guys made
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1329joythewanderer 77 6 hours ago
1330
1331I see your point. I see the dilemma. HF225 is like "violence" against "soft violence" (at least inc believe). I believe that was all you guys can do at that moment, but I don't think HF225 is all they can do at this moment, to me it looks more like power tripping. But what otherwise with that SF, expect him to negotiate or? How can we know if it's trustful and enforceable even when he agrees on something.
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1336roelandp 74 4 hours ago
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1338it already says in the post above that stake will be used in the future. So it's basically saying what softfork222 wanted to prevent that it will be done.
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1343mamanovasim 60 8 hours ago
1344
1345justin sun loves bots and gambling dapps so he can't understand our feeling
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1350berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1355ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
1356
1357https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
1358
1359You did this to Steem. It's exactly an accurate description but it fits well enough.
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1364wikitextbot 46 7 hours ago
1365
1366Streisand effect
1367The Streisand effect is a phenomenon whereby an attempt to hide, remove, or censor a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely, usually facilitated by the Internet. It is an example of psychological reactance, wherein once people are aware that some information is being kept from them, their motivation to access and spread it is increased.It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose 2003 attempt to suppress photographs of her residence in Malibu, California, inadvertently drew further public attention to it. Similar attempts have been made, for example, in cease-and-desist letters to suppress files, websites, and even numbers. Instead of being suppressed, the information receives extensive publicity and media extensions such as videos and spoof songs, often being widely mirrored on the Internet or distributed on file-sharing networks.
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1372geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
1373
1374lol now they are downvoting!! Stupid!!
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1379chekohler 69 7 hours ago
1380
1381I wonder how many of that so called 15 mil users on Tron are bots, proxy and bag holders who just go with the flow. Does anyone in their community even contest things? We might not be the most pleasant bunch but at least we're not just yes men for everything
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1386enforcer48 68 7 hours ago
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1388They don't exist.
1389
1390There's exactly one person from Tron that's commenting here and it's @will-richards.
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1395ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
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1397Simple: all of them.
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1402chekohler 69 6 hours ago
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1404Sure looks like it, I've never heard a bag holder of Tron shit on anything they do.
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1409ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
1410
1411I think all exchanges should: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights before being allowed to operate on the chain, or before people trust their funds to them. But of course, it's now a far too late to shout about it :|
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1416berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1421ben 54 6 hours ago
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1423Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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1429geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
1430
1431Your end is near...0.22.6 soon, please...
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1436anshia 57 6 hours ago
1437
1438But who can make 22.6 when new top 20 witnesses are under his control?
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1443geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
1444
1445Old top witnesses, I hope. Either way, I am done with Justin, Tron and his scams.
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1450sneak 64 5 hours ago
1451
1452Sure. But my money's on the exchanges and steemit.com remaining pointed at the current coup-fork. Without websites, a Steem Classic fork (or would it be simply Steem? Ethereum Classic is the one that declined to arbitrarily impose new state) would probably not really go anywhere.
1453
1454It seems that the exchanges have already placed their bets; a chain without liquidity isn't a very relevant chain.
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1459apsu 65 5 hours ago
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1461You're a very rare kind of loser.
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1466berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1471firstamendment 55 3 hours ago
1472
1473remove your witness votes for this fork. Put it back into the witnesses running 22.2. Your investment in steem is about to become worthless is you don't-just like the rest of ours.
1474
1475If you are a steemit employee/contractor, please do the right thing and send them a resignation letter and protest the CCP takeover. Might want to release 22.6 and install which deletes all the coins held by houbi, binance, and steemit inc too. That'll be interesting when the exchanges who robbed this community realize they can no longer pay back the real owners of the coin and the exchanges are forced to buy it themselves.
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1480will-richards 51 8 hours ago
1481
1482How compatible with TRC10, TRC20 and various ERC standards does SMTs intend to be?
1483
1484Posted using Partiko Android
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1490fluffcloud 50 6 hours ago
1491
1492I think one ERC1155 multi-token contract for all Steem tokens could work
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1497anomadsoul 76 8 hours ago
1498
1499So basically you hostile takeover Steem's governance claiming it's because you're striving for decentralization, and yet you do it by centralizing governance by voting the top 20 witnesses with one super powered up account.
1500
1501But screw the 4 years and thousands of witness votes from the community that's been here every day for years, right?
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1507lordbutterfly 69 8 hours ago
1508
1509And the fucking exchanges used customer funds! Its beyond unethical.
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1514ash 72 8 hours ago
1515
1516you know the old saying... not your keys not your coins.
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1521ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
1522
1523Not long ago I found this brillant operation in steem docs: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights - the community should have required any exchange to do precisely that on their technical accounts, so such things cannot happen.. too bad I learned about that op a week ago and I myself didn't consider the exchanges when SF was being prepared :|
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1528sneak 64 5 hours ago
1529
1530AIUI, that op was explicitly created to render whale stake nonvoting to be able to remove the centralization of power risk to the chain. Today, that risk became non-theoretical. (That's actually also a pun. Hi @ben!)
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1535ookamisuuhaisha 57 5 hours ago
1536
1537AIUI: Exactly. Today: actually, I'd say it also prooved that this op was very much needed, and very much forgotten, and probably it's mostly rendered useless now :)
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1542friendlystranger 53 7 hours ago
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1544Buy more STEEM and vote for your witness. It's really that simple! STEEM was DPOS from the beginning.
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1549chekohler 69 7 hours ago
1550
1551I'm kind of happy they showed their hand and that the soft fork happened. We had till the town hall to discuss all of this and they pulled a fast one. There's not going to be discussions, just dictating.
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1556jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
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1558I initially thought that the supposed 'town hall' was just a tactic to delay the valid witnesses while they (Steemit Inc.) re-grouped and implemented a takeover. Sadly I was correct.
1559
1560Edited for clarity.
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1565chekohler 69 5 hours ago
1566
1567I honestly didn't think that lol how naive I was, here I was thinking okay we can now bring parties to the table but it looks like we're as divided as ever. I wonder if any of the witnesses will stick around for the great handing back of the chain
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1572jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
1573
1574I doubt there will be any handing back. Justin Sun did the same thing to the Tron blockchain recently (with the aide of Binance) and has not 'handed it back' either.
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1579chekohler 69 4 hours ago
1580
1581I admit I know zero about Tron and never been interested in it. I don't get why people like these want to get into decentralised projects? Why not focus on something you can control then if thats what you want.
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1586jacobpeacock 66 4 hours ago
1587
1588I think that calling something 'decentralized' has marketing appeal for someone only interested in making money.
1589
1590Perhaps also Mr. Sun has control issues and can never quite deal with a truly decentralized platform but likes to be looked upon as a pioneer in the field for more complicated and perhaps narcissistic/megalomaniac reasons.
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1595chekohler 69 4 hours ago
1596
1597I think you're spot on there its more about the narrative and selling people on the idea and then obfuscating the implementation like oh we're not as shit as banks but low key we are exactly the same. Lets not forget the VC money Justin throws around naturally comes with conditions
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1602jacobpeacock 66 4 hours ago
1603
1604Indeed!
1605
1606When you look at the comments i this posts you can see that there is an obvious play being made to control the narrative.
1607
1608I would also say 'to save face' but obviously @justinsunsteemit does not have any 'face' to save to begin with.
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1613berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
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1618mys 62 8 hours ago
1619
1620It is interesting that nobody complain when witnesses did same thing 2 weeks ago :D
1621Comments fiesta!
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1627lordbutterfly 69 7 hours ago
1628
1629This is in no way similar. A witness consensus voted by community stake is a decentralized action.
1630Exchanges taking customer funds to do a hostile takeover and completely centralizing the chain is an abomination of crypto.
1631
1632Steem, at this moment is 100% centralized.
1633There is no point in it being a blockchain.
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1639jedigeiss 71 7 hours ago
1640
1641Community stake ? You needed what ?blocktrades and or freedom vote to be in top 20 ? Is that the community consensus ?
1642I seriously don't know if that's the case
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1647lordbutterfly 69 6 hours ago
1648
1649Vast majority of witnesses and community members were on board with the SF. This is an action by 1 guy that bought himself a blockchain by telling his friend CZ to use customer funds to takeover the chain for him.
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1654mobbs 69 6 hours ago
1655
1656Has this not always been the case though? I've maintained since forever that all it takes is one wealthy bad actor, a youtuber prank or something and bam, centralised on a whim. Decentralization has always seemed somewhat of an illusion mixed with a pipe dream to me that only really functioned because Steem isn't popular or known
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1661bil.prag 67 3 hours ago
1662
1663not really, because you can't buy that much from exchanges and not skyrocket the price.
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1668isnochys 65 6 hours ago
1669
1670Welcome to capitalism!
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1674
1675mys 62 7 hours ago
1676
1677Customer funds?
1678Exchanges bought a lot of STEEMs 2 days ago causing +25% price pump...
1679They literally bought blockchain.
1680
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1683
1684lordbutterfly 69 7 hours ago
1685
1686They didnt buy 100 million Steem. The price would have gone up much higher.
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1690
1691jedigeiss 71 7 hours ago
1692
1693I di mys because it was like taking an aggressive stance and blowing the first strike. Fear is never a good advisor and the results are obvious. The other has to strike back if not intentionally than just in order not to lose his face.
1694Now please could we just go back to the table and try to deescalate before everything gets totally out of hand ?
1695Yours Jan
1696
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1699
1700shadowspub 70 7 hours ago
1701
1702Now that's an optimist when you don't think things are totally out of hand now.
1703
1704Too bad Justin didn't have the courage to sign the post instead of using the Steemit Inc team as cannon fodder. Cowardly to say the least.
1705
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1708
1709jedigeiss 71 7 hours ago
1710
1711I still do have hope. Because when we are really spiralling into an all out war then we are all going to lose big time. Just like in every other war. And I seriously can not believe that we are really wanting this to happen.
1712
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1714    0.20 
1715
1716tarazkp 79 7 hours ago
1717
1718He didn't write it.
1719
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1722
1723shadowspub 70 5 hours ago
1724
1725how do you figure he didn't write it? well his people at his instructions would be more accurate... it's clearly not been written by the Steemit team we all know even though it has been written to appear it was.
1726
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1729
1730jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
1731
1732Did you expect anything different from a one-percenter shitheel?
1733
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1736
1737carapthian 44 7 hours ago
1738
1739Exactly de-escalation is what we need. Things usually go south when people get emotional and let emotions rule over common sense. The emotional response has been impressive and has been resulting in an impressive escalation
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1744ash 72 8 hours ago
1745
1746witnesses started this by blocking accounts. This is action-reaction, and they should've seen this coming.
1747
1748Anyways, a hardfork in inevitable IMO, could've gone much smoother without the 222 drama though
1749
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1752
1753ciska 50 6 hours ago
1754
1755100% behind your statement. Justin/Steemit/Tron, none of them started this. I call it karma
1756
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1759
1760markkujantunen 74 3 hours ago
1761
1762The very first thing he did as the owner of Steemit, Inc was to declare he was going to dismantle the chain.
1763
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1766
1767bil.prag 67 3 hours ago
1768
1769but if he really had no intention to use that stake to vote for witnesses then there was no problem with that. He could wait till the meeting, make an agreement, where it would say he will not us it for voting witnesses... But he wanted to do this, he does not like to not be in charge...
1770
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1773
1774enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
1775
1776Some of us did.
1777
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1780
1781mindtrap 72 7 hours ago
1782
1783Wtf? Ben’s account who has been inactive since...forever, now upvotes those comments? Controlled by Justin? Wtf is going on?
1784
1785Who knows...maybe @mottler jumps in too...or even @freedom if he pulls back the delegations...
1786
1787Disgusting
1788
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1791
1792tarazkp 79 7 hours ago
1793
1794ben...
1795
1796ben|ned
1797
1798    4
1799    0.49 
1800
1801mindtrap 72 7 hours ago
1802
1803Extreme...
1804
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1807
1808geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
1809
1810looks like it belongs to steemit.
1811
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1814
1815enforcer48 68 7 hours ago
1816
1817The ownership was updated several hours ago if you check Steemd.
1818
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1821
1822holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
1823
1824A few people did.
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1829fredrikaa 69 6 hours ago
1830
1831where were you? There were tonnes of heated debates after the soft fork.
1832
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1835
1836geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
1837
1838Really? You like dictatorship?
1839
1840How is that a same thing when you had consensus witnesses with an intention of preserving Steem and now one centralized entity trying to force things?
1841
1842P.S. They downvoted most opposing comments here.
1843
1844    3
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1847
1848mys 62 7 hours ago
1849
1850It is not what I like, just how I see the situation.
1851
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1854
1855ciska 50 6 hours ago
1856
1857Because they are teaching people a lesson in being not hostile. Should have not started this war in the first place. The witnesses didn't preserve steemit. They were on the verge of killing it.
1858
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1861
1862jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
1863
1864Ass kiss much?
1865
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1868
1869enforcer48 68 5 hours ago
1870
1871He really thinks Justin will pick him up in his new Steem order.
1872
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1875
1876ciska 50 5 hours ago
1877
1878Can't write much?
1879
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1882
1883jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
1884
1885I write a lot actually. Thanks for noticing.
1886
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1889
1890ciska 50 5 hours ago
1891
1892I just noticed you got a thriving blog. Keep writing and one day you got enough pennies!
1893
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1896
1897jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
1898
1899Thanks so much for your facetiously kind words. Hopefully all your ass kissing disinformation earns you some pennies as well.
1900
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1903
1904ciska 50 5 hours ago
1905
1906I already got plenty of pennies. You kissed the ass of witnesses before, you did. But because you can't see the reality you probably don't even notice.
1907
1908    0
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1910
1911apsu 65 8 hours ago
1912
1913Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.
1914
1915Now it's centralized power.
1916
1917Don't go full retard.
1918
1919    1
1920    1
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1922
1923rafalski 64 8 hours ago
1924
1925Why they didnt protect before? Because Ned told them he will not use it? It is laugh
1926
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1929
1930ciska 50 6 hours ago
1931
1932YES, controlled by the second largest name in the whole crypto industry. And you just unleashed the beast. We should be proud of ourselves.
1933
1934    0
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1937fervi 66 6 hours ago
1938
1939    Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.
1940
1941Lol. After all, a lot of whales are whales because they were involved in ninja mining. You didn't block their accounts, so...?
1942
1943    0
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1945
1946bil.prag 67 3 hours ago
1947
1948feel free to read this and see why https://steempeak.com/steem/@joseph/the-history-of-steem-steemit-launch-in-the-words-of-dan-larimer-from-the-early-launch-days
1949
1950    0
1951    0.00 
1952
1953jga 65 7 hours ago
1954Why the softfork 0.22.2 didn't prevent this?
1955How this was done?
1956
1957They used the funds in several exchanges to power up. Concretely:
1958Account	Steem Power	Time of Power up
1959@binance-hot	31 730 053.775 SP	March 2
1960@huobi-withdrawal	8 002 101.000 SP	March 2
1961@poloniex	2 293 743.643 SP	March 2
1962@ben	1 536 362.853 SP	Last year (Feb 2019)
1963@bitdev100	800 109.047 SP	March 2
1964@pacemaker	636 317.641 SP	March 2
1965@joe767676	240 516.435 SP	March 2
1966@imadev	227 153.927 SP
1967@geos	180 006.613 SP	March 2
1968
1969In total 45.6 million Steem Power... This is more or less the steem power that the previous witnesses received in votes.
1970
1971They needed at least 17 new witnesses in the top 20 in order to apply a new fork... With this amount of power it is possible, then they changed the top witnesses.
1972
1973The new fork allowed Steem account to vote for witnesses... then finally they used this power to vote for the new witnesses, which is around 60 million more steem power. So, at the end, they reached 106 million steem power in votes (more than double the previous witnesses).
1974
1975All the funds of these exchanges are powered up, meaning they will not work for steem for at least 3 months (unless they change the rules for a short quit power down only for this group, take this in mind).
1976
1977Bittrex didn't participate in this movement. They still have liquid steem (15 million in total). So the alternative to sell (if you want) is using Bittrex or Blocktrades.
1978
1979Very bad days. I want to sell.
1980
1981    11
1982    6.92 
1983
1984sorin.cristescu 71 7 hours ago
1985
1986On the contrary, this looks like an interesting time ! Finally, steem elicits interest ! Rather than a sleepy old blockchain, this move which seems a relatively straightforward power fight will probably hit the headlines !
1987
1988There is no such thing as "bad publicity" :-)
1989
1990Posted using Partiko Android
1991
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1994
1995ura-soul 74 5 hours ago
1996
1997Yeah, hitler was in the news a lot. happy days.
1998
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2002netuoso 70 5 hours ago
2003
2004You say "interesting times" I say "the Chinese Communist Party has used their investment in Tron to gain control of yet another social media landscape they can control the narrative of"
2005
2006Don't be so naive. This is the epitome of "bad publicity" for the security and integrity of the network. This chain has become Eastern controlled. Enjoy
2007
2008    1
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2010
2011enforcer48 68 6 hours ago
2012
2013Bring the popcorn!
2014
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2017
2018popcornexpress 59 3 hours ago
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2023scorer 58 5 hours ago
2024
2025Yeah, I enjoyed this move too. ??
2026!popcorn
2027
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2030
2031popcornexpress 59 3 hours ago
2032
2033    0
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2035
2036jeffjagoe 70 3 hours ago
2037
2038.... until we realize @justinsuntron and exchanges paid hush-money to the major crypto outlets so this story does not see the daylight.
2039
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2042
2043fluffcloud 50 5 hours ago
2044
2045Hmm... Whose money were on these exchanges' acccounts? The exchanges' customers? IANAL but these exchanges clearly don't respect their customers' rights to their assets
2046
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2049
2050firstamendment 55 3 hours ago
2051
2052ddos binance and houbi?
2053
2054    0
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2056
2057jacekw 64 8 hours ago
2058
2059Good luck! You just lost whole community, the most valuable thing here.
2060
2061    14
2062    5.60 
2063
2064haikubot 54 8 hours ago
2065
2066Good luck! You just lost
2067Whole community, the most
2068Valuable thing here.
2069
2070                 - jacekw
2071
2072I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
2073
2074    5
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2076
2077ausbitbank 72 8 hours ago
2078
2079Reserving this comment space for when I'm not having a rage stroke.
2080
2081    17
2082    4.67 
2083
2084holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
2085
2086Deep breaths, man, deep breaths.
2087
2088    0
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2090
2091penderis 63 8 hours ago
2092
2093Find a new space I have marked this as my fave comment so far.
2094
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2097
2098chekohler 69 7 hours ago
2099
2100Joins in quiet contemplation
2101
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2104
2105theadmiral0 52 7 hours ago
2106
2107Mutual
2108
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2111
2112howo 69 7 hours ago
2113
2114hahahaha
2115
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2118
2119sneak 64 3 hours ago
2120
2121Everybody's allowed to vote their stake. Always has been.
2122
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2125
2126fredrikaa 69 8 hours ago
2127
2128If it has been your intent all along to use the Steemit stake for further Steem blockchain and community development according to what has been promised to the investors and users who have stayed here for 4 years, then why not just commit to it in a trustless way?
2129
2130This was the absolute worst way to build trust with the community going forward. A sad day for decentralization.
2131
2132    19
2133    2
2134    2.97 
2135
2136enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2137
2138Who cast the first stone?
2139
2140    1
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2142
2143jedigeiss 71 6 hours ago
2144
2145Why do we need to cast stones anyway ? Out of fear ? Out of whatever ? Damn we are not learning at all
2146
2147    6
2148    0.16 
2149
2150fredrikaa 69 7 hours ago
2151
2152Steemit.
2153
2154    1
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2156
2157apsu 65 7 hours ago
2158
2159Steemit did.
2160
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2163
2164lordbutterfly 69 7 hours ago
2165
2166Are you stupid or just pretending to be?
2167
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2170
2171enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2172
2173I'm totally stupid.
2174
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2177
2178ocupation 68 5 hours ago
2179
2180Look at this @ben doing some downvoting, piece of shit
2181
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2184
2185enginewitty 70 8 hours ago
2186
2187MALICIOUSLY STRUCTURED! Fully agree. They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it. I said burn it all and they told me to fuck off. Regardless if it was ninja mined and 'promised' or not. I understand why they did, but did not agree with it. I am curious though, where is 22.4? Looks like you pissed off a lot of people. To be expected. There are some majorly valid points down there, especially concerning the community aspect of it and the sheer numbers of supporters many have. Those numbers (albeit some long since inactive accounts - and I imagine some are even from themselves) represent what Steem really is. The community. As long as you all don't do anything too drastic and have the blockchain's best interests at it's core, that community will remain. But the blockchain without the community is - nothing.
2188
2189    5
2190    28
2191    2.73 
2192
2193therealwolf 74 7 hours ago
2194
2195The SF was structured to protect the decentralised governance. Nobody (at least the far majority of Witnesses) wanted to go anywhere near forking off their stake, we simply wanted to have a place to talk, without having the chain overtaken (which happened now).
2196
2197And the fact that you call the SF malicious, while you were in favor of burning it? Are you stupid? I told you already that burning it off is far too extreme, but you're calling the SF malicious? Again, are you stupid?
2198
2199The SF was built on the promises (not to use the stake for voting & governance) by the previous owners of Steemit Inc. Nothing more, nothing less.
2200
2201Since Justin is now the steerer of the ship, he made his move. Centralising the chain to bring change. I don't want to be the person who judges whether it's wrong or right, but one thing is for sure: @ned has always been full of shit and for the last 2+ years, he's been a useless idiot. He should have known that selling it to Tron, will result in this outcome. So either he's stupid/naive, or he never cared about decentralisation.
2202
2203    5
2204    4.39 
2205
2206enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2207
2208In favor of burning it after the fact. That way nobody could keep abusing it. I would have never voted to do this, never upgraded to 22.2. I get why you all did it. Who was benefitting from the SPS? Same people. Look, I don't agree with hijacking anything. And now we're all gonna pay the price for it. I don't blame them, I blame other people that were impatient and jumped the gun before there was any kind of actual talk aside from a marketing commercial. And yes, I'M AS STUPID AS THEY GET.
2209
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2212
2213therealwolf 74 7 hours ago
2214
2215    In favor of burning it
2216
2217It doesn't matter what comes after. Burning is only okay, if it's a whole new blockchain & branding. Nobody would have ever burned Steemit Incs stake like that, on the original Steem blockchain. Stop spreading lies.
2218
2219Also, if Steem ever has only people like you left, then good riddance. Spineless idiot.
2220
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2223
2224enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2225
2226People like me? Do elaborate. Because, I'm too stupid to understand exactly what just happened the past month.
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2230
2231jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
2232
2233You do not sound stupid... you sound like a fucking shitheel mealy mouthed shithead.
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2237
2238enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2239
2240Why thank you! I try hard to uphold my standards and procure plenty of salty shit for the masses.
2241
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2244
2245jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
2246
2247LOLZ!
2248
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2251
2252pangoli 68 4 hours ago
2253
2254I agree. The witnesses probably should have tried to talk about this before taking actions to freeze steemit's accounts.
2255
2256I remember the last time there was as little as a whisper about forking steemit's stakes, ned started powering down. They agreed such a thing won't happen as long as he accepted to use the stakes for development purposes, which he did.
2257
2258Under new leadership, we should have reached out to rediscuss those terms first. But no, we had to act out of fear by freezing their stakes first. At that point, our intent didn't matter to Justin Sun. He bought the company with his money and he had to protect his assets from threats.
2259
2260I also think we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake in the first place. If we believed it didn't belong to him, freezing it was a move we should have done a long, long time ago.
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2264
2265snook 69 7 hours ago
2266
2267I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how you would act.
2268
2269Sun would have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA.
2270
2271think about this from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.
2272
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2275
2276enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2277
2278You're a pretty smart cookie. But I'm the one they keep calling stupid.
2279
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2282
2283haikubot 54 6 hours ago
2284
2285You're a pretty smart
2286Cookie. But I'm the one they
2287Keep calling stupid.
2288
2289                 - enginewitty
2290
2291I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
2292
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2295
2296lucylin 64 6 hours ago
2297
2298lol. It comes with the territory of not following group think, I'm afraid.
2299
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2302
2303enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2304
2305"Follow none, carry some & lead the way while helping all you can."
2306
2307    Witty
2308
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2311
2312lucylin 64 6 hours ago
2313
2314#newsteemparadigm.
2315
2316Your words are my actions on here. I've been trading, making profits and giving back to my supporters in steem, direct to them.
2317
2318    0
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2320
2321stoodkev 69 7 hours ago
2322
2323wow, good job Justin, now you upvote the 3 posts that agree with you and downvote the 50 that call you for what you are, you really have no limits to how you ll abuse of your power. Congratulations for killing our chain.
2324
2325image.png
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2327    11
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2329
2330enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2331
2332Actually, this @ben account was created during the initial mining of Steem when it launched, which means, this is an old account, nothing to do with @justinsunsteemit. So uh, I would say somebody might be interested to see where Steem goes.
2333
2334    0
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2336
2337stoodkev 69 7 hours ago
2338
2339huh, maybe check steemd and you will see the ownership was changed at the same time as the other Ned's accounts...
2340
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2343
2344enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2345
2346Touche'
2347
2348    0
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2350
2351therealwolf 74 7 hours ago
2352
2353    Actually, this @ben account was created during the initial mining of Steem when it launched, which means, this is an old account, nothing to do with @justinsunsteemit.
2354
2355Again, are you stupid?
2356
2357    1
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2359
2360enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2361
2362I'M SO STUPID I DON'T EVEN TAKE OFFENSE AT OFFENSIVE REMARKS. Just rolling with the punches.
2363
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2366
2367ciska 50 6 hours ago
2368
2369Looks like the witnesses are. Never start a war you can't win. Whats plan B, fork away and have zero exchanges list your coin? Good idea
2370
2371    0
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2373
2374novacadian 57 4 hours ago
2375
2376    Again, are you stupid?
2377
2378From a witness which installed 22.2 this is rich. ?
2379
2380    0
2381    0.00 
2382
2383geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
2384
2385so belongs to steemit, hence belongs to justin.
2386
2387    0
2388    0.00 
2389
2390apsu 65 7 hours ago
2391
2392It's Steemit controlled account. You don't seem to have any idea on what you're talking about.
2393
2394    0
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2396
2397enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2398
2399Nope, I'm an idiot.
2400
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2403
2404apsu 65 6 hours ago
2405
2406And I'm upset, so I wish you don't take this personally.
2407
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2410
2411enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2412
2413No worries. There'll be a lot of passion and fear and all kinds of crazy emotions flaring the next few days. :P
2414
2415    0
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2417
2418joythewanderer 77 6 hours ago
2419
2420lol justinsun = steemit inc now
2421
2422    0
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2424
2425firstamendment 55 3 hours ago
2426
2427The more @Ben votes the less influence he will have. Keep pissing him off.
2428
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2431
2432lucylin 64 6 hours ago
2433
2434    They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it.
2435
2436At least it showed the extreme level of naivety that the 'collective' witnesses possess.
2437
2438Not being one to say 'I told you so...'
2439but....lmao.
2440
2441    1
2442    0.03 
2443
2444enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
2445
2446I feel you. Was a 'pretty wise move' thinking they could actually get away with it.
2447
2448    1
2449    0.00 
2450
2451snook 69 7 hours ago
2452
2453    But the blockchain without the community is - nothing.
2454
2455This! This right here
2456
2457    1
2458    0.00 
2459
2460therealwolf 74 7 hours ago
2461
2462How about
2463
2464    the blockchain without projects is nothing
2465
2466Steem only survived & brought in new users, because people built other projects on top of it (SteemMonsters, DTube, Dlive, etc.) I guess Justin truly thinks those are worthless, because many Witnesses built apps & projects themselves, Witnesses who he seems to consider malicious.
2467
2468    1
2469    0.03 
2470
2471enginewitty 70 7 hours ago
2472
2473The biggest one, besides Steemit, has been Splinterlands/SteemMonsters, and that didn't use a single penny from any SPS or Steemit ninja-mined stake. Projects are great and they help us thrive, but without a community to use any projects, projects are worthless.
2474
2475    1
2476    0.00 
2477
2478ocupation 68 7 hours ago
2479
2480Holy shit, didn't see that coming. You're actually trying to establish an order with premined stake while decentralizing this place? Haha
2481Fuck this shit, you actually showed that soft for was absolutely neccessary. Btw i dont think you have 15 mil active users, whole crypto combined doesnt have that much???
2482By removing our witnesses you have proved to be not worthie of our trust. We should have forked you out completely.
2483
2484    4
2485    2.48 
2486
2487roelandp 74 6 hours ago
2488
2489In a response to this I have shutdown my Steem Apps for iOS and Android: https://steemwallet.app - removed from appstores.
2490
2491Additional apps have already been shut down by their respective owners to signal distrust in the centralisation of the Steem Chain:
2492
2493    steemSql
2494    Steemitboard
2495    SteemApps
2496    SmartSteem
2497    SteemWallet.app for iOS & Android
2498    dPOLL
2499
2500C.R.A.Z.Y.
2501
2502    16
2503    2.30 
2504
2505eqko 61 6 hours ago
2506
2507Sounds like an excellent idea to deprive 'The Community' you're claiming to fight for of the tools to interact with the blockchain. insert facepalm
2508
2509    1
2510    0.02 
2511
2512enginewitty 70 5 hours ago
2513
2514Right? Some community support there.
2515
2516    0
2517    0.00 
2518
2519firstamendment 55 3 hours ago
2520
2521They can be reactivated on a future forked chain which will be community based. No sense allowing justin Sun to benefit from their hard work.
2522
2523    0
2524    0.00 
2525
2526eqko 61 3 hours ago
2527
2528Meanwhile, said community (assuming the aim is to move get everyone over to said hypothetical forked chain) has been blinded, maimed and deprived of their tools. Still not seeing how Steemit Inc or Justin Sun benefits or get's hurt by the removal of those tools.
2529
2530If the aim is to 'seduce' all current chain users to come over to the new chain (again, there is none, so hypothetical) by taking away their tools on this chain, then it's certainly a hamfisted way of doing so.
2531
2532I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with Justin Sun or SteemitInc benefiting from those tools. It's the community that benefits (or not right now) from them.
2533
2534    0
2535    0.00 
2536
2537jeffjagoe 70 3 hours ago
2538
2539I support this. All STEEM apps/infrastructure should protest by going dark and maybe even using a MEMO to inform all users of the hostile takeover and its implications.
2540
2541@justinsuntron and @steemitblog should know that without the STEEM Community, Justin bought nothing but a big pile of worthless SHITcoins.
2542
2543    0
2544    0.00 
2545
2546lacking 57 6 hours ago
2547
2548Good job!
2549
2550Now that it's apparent forking doesn't work this is the best way to fight this kind of bullshit.
2551
2552    0
2553    1
2554    0.00 
2555
2556ash 72 8 hours ago
2557
2558as expected...
2559
2560    2
2561    1.33 
2562
2563roundbeargames 70 8 hours ago
2564
256511059798-3x2-700x467.jpg
2566welcome to steem yall
2567
2568    12
2569    1.30 
2570
2571chekohler 69 7 hours ago
2572
2573What's next? All steemians to be quarantined?
2574
2575    1
2576    0.02 
2577
2578enforcer48 68 6 hours ago
2579
2580Forcibly removed with drive-bys.
2581
2582    0
2583    0.00 
2584
2585novacadian 57 3 hours ago
2586
2587? That ^^.
2588
2589    0
2590    0.00 
2591
2592arcange 73 6 hours ago
2593Go fuck yourself Steemit inc!
2594
2595I will NEVER support you anymore nor develop for your proprietary blockchain!
2596You finally revealed your true face: FAKE decentralization advocates!
2597
2598    9
2599    1.09 
2600
2601preparedwombat 69 5 hours ago
2602
2603    The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions.
2604
2605Translation: 0.1% constitutes a part.
2606
2607    usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.
2608
2609Translation: complete control by TRON.
2610
2611    may be deemed illegal and criminal
2612
2613Translation: we didn’t like it.
2614
2615    The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member
2616
2617Translation: The group behind this was never going to do this for any stake other than ninja-mined.
2618
2619    On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.
2620
2621We smashed the will of the community who’d voted for witnesses of their choice and imposed our will.
2622
2623    The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.
2624
2625Translation: Since the witnesses we select are the community deciders, the Steem blockchain will be abandoned or merged to TRON.
2626
2627    Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible
2628
2629Translation: There will be no discussion, as there have been with ALL other Hard Forks. Your corporate overlord knows what’s best.
2630
2631    For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community
2632
2633Translation: Until the next Plenary Session, The Central Committee of the Politburo will exercise unfettered executive control.
2634
2635    After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.
2636
2637Translation: Once we have broken the back of those who dared to oppose the Central Authority, the governance of the puppet state of New Manchukuo will be in place.
2638
2639    5
2640    1.04 
2641
2642mobbs 69 4 hours ago
2643
2644    our corporate overlord knows what’s best.
2645
2646Communist*
2647
2648    0
2649    0.00 
2650
2651kevinwong 76 5 hours ago
2652
2653    3
2654    1.04 
2655
2656edje 69 3 hours ago
2657
2658I shall follow you in just sit back and relax on my large coach and view the war unfolding :)
2659
2660    0
2661    0.00 
2662
2663raycoms 70 8 hours ago
2664
2665Well, now you did exactly what the community feared you would do and what was the reason for this softfork all along.
2666You have just proven all of them right.
2667
2668    4
2669    0.91 
2670
2671sneak 64 6 hours ago
2672
2673I wonder how the government regulators will feel about a single organization unambiguously unilaterally dictating the price feeds for the SBD conversion.
2674
2675Now that the blockchain has a single operator, they can manipulate the SBD conversion rate to whatever they like.
2676
2677Right now, the only thing getting pegged are the existing holders of STEEM.
2678
26792 Mar 2020: The day we learned that @dan's DPoS experiment is finally and incontrovertibly a failure.
2680
2681    8
2682    0.79 
2683
2684noisy 67 5 hours ago
2685
2686with Exchanges, which can vote with not their funds.... from now every PoS can be considered as failure
2687
2688    1
2689    0.00 
2690
2691sneak 64 4 hours ago
2692
2693It seems that they can and did. I don't even think there is a reasonable presumption that they should not. After all, the money is entrusted to them and is under their control. Why shouldn't they vote it?
2694
2695    0
2696    0.00 
2697
2698noisy 67 4 hours ago
2699
2700Maybe they should be able to do that, maybe not. But for sure, locking up stake of their clients by converting to Steem Power (with all implications of that) IMO is a crime.
2701
2702    0
2703    0.00 
2704
2705ash 72 4 hours ago
2706
2707not your keys... etc. by sending DPoS tokens to an exchange, you give up your voting rights, and make them your "proxy".
2708
2709I hate it too, but those are the rules.
2710
2711    0
2712    0.00 
2713
2714sneak 64 4 hours ago
2715
2716Crimes aren't generally matters of opinion, and most cryptocurrency exchanges have "locked up" their customer funds offline for safety purposes, taking several days to access them from cold wallets. This doesn't seem that different to me.
2717
2718What laws do you think have been broken, in which countries?
2719
2720    0
2721    0.00 
2722
2723fredrikaa 69 4 hours ago
2724
2725Philosophically I agree that whoever owns a token should be able to vote with it. (Nevermind the discussion of whether or not STINC was bound by their promise not to vote).
2726
2727But any DPoS chain that wants me involved going forward need to have some sort of mechanism that still prevents this type of take-over from being possible.
2728
2729Maybe a delay in time from when tokens are staked to when they can be used to vote for witnesses/BP combined with max votes being reduced to 5 would be sufficient.
2730
2731    0
2732    0.00 
2733
2734vlemon 75 6 hours ago
2735
2736RIP Decentralization !
2737
2738Huobi and Binance are joining the party to overtake STEEM with their friend TRON.
2739
2740Decentralization lost I guess...
2741
2742Sad time for STEEM that actually proved it was decentralized when OUR witnesses resisted an hostile takeover with Justin Sun lying from the very st day !
2743
2744    1
2745    0.75 
2746
2747martie7 62 4 hours ago
2748
2749Decentralization was lost long time ago.
2750
2751    0
2752    0.00 
2753
2754galenkp 74 7 hours ago
2755
2756Decentralised means freedom of speech mate. Obviously that's not a thing here anymore...Nice $18 downvote on my previous comment.
2757
2758Screen Shot 2020-03-02 at 10.21.03 pm.png
2759
2760    6
2761    0.72 
2762
2763themarkymark 77 6 hours ago
2764
2765Nuff said.
2766
2767    10
2768    0.65 
2769
2770enginewitty 70 5 hours ago
2771
2772Saw that too huh??
2773
2774    0
2775    0.00 
2776
2777stoodkev 69 7 hours ago
2778
2779On top of the rest, Ben (one of Ned's account) is now heavily the 95% of the community that is standing to them, and upvoting the other 5% of scumbags.
2780
2781Centralization : Done
2782Censure : Done
2783
2784Good job, Steem looks more and more like China by the minute.
2785
2786    4
2787    0.41 
2788
2789fredrikaa 69 6 hours ago
2790
2791    They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger.
2792
2793Where does this statement stem from?
2794
2795    1
2796    0.40 
2797
2798jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
2799
2800From an obvious disinformation campaign spearheaded by Steemit Inc!
2801
2802    0
2803    0.00 
2804
2805mahdiyari 66 7 hours ago
2806
2807Calm down, people!
2808Without community, these boys are worth nothing. Let them enjoy their shit show!
2809
2810    7
2811    0.35 
2812
2813mindtrap 72 7 hours ago
2814
2815This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2.
2816
2817Happy now? This is what they wanted all along....
2818
2819    4
2820    0.29 
2821
2822geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
2823
2824If they didn’t do that, he would not have shown his true dictator face. Now I am glad they did the soft fork. Better to know earlier who you are dealing with than later.
2825
2826    3
2827    0.01 
2828
2829mindtrap 72 7 hours ago
2830
2831Oh...we knew exactly who we were dealing with. It’s just that some people are romantically naive...
2832
2833Do we really expect some progress at that meeting? Sheeesh....
2834
2835    0
2836    0.00 
2837
2838geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
2839
2840I didn’t. Now I know.
2841
2842    0
2843    0.00 
2844
2845ladybug146 66 7 hours ago
2846
2847I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he could have been a good guy before shitting bricks but clearly never trust a commie.
2848
2849    1
2850    0.07 
2851
2852novacadian 57 3 hours ago
2853
2854    This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2.
2855
2856My objection to 22.2 was that it did not fix anything and in some comments even mentioned that a "...billionaire could still but majority stake tomorrow". Guess this is tomorrow. The lesson to be learned is don't take a knife to a gun fight and don't piss off a billionaire.
2857
2858    0
2859    0.00 
2860
2861mindtrap 72 3 hours ago
2862
2863There wouldn’t be a consensus to freeze a giant stakeholder’s assets if they purchased their stake in the open market.
2864
2865As a matter of fact this would have skyrocketed the price and would have been beneficial for everyone. Do you feel benefited now?????
2866
2867This stake was mined...illegally...and transferred to the highest bidder whose intentions were unknown....or should I say...known?
2868
2869    0
2870    0.00 
2871
2872geekgirl 71 8 hours ago
2873
2874YOU HAVE MADE A BIG MISTAKE!!!
2875
2876STOP IMMEDIATELY JUSTIN!!!
2877
2878Do you really think you can take over this chain??? Don’t be stupid!!!
2879
2880OMG!!!
2881
2882Now we will wipe out your stakes for sure!!!
2883
2884    12
2885    3
2886    0.28 
2887
2888ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
2889
2890I understand your shock, I'm surprised as well, but the plan you've just stated won't help in anything but further escalating the conflict.
2891
2892    0
2893    0.00 
2894
2895geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
2896
2897I didn’t state any plan. I am not a plan stater or executer. Just super disappointed.
2898
2899    0
2900    0.00 
2901
2902ookamisuuhaisha 57 6 hours ago
2903
2904I'm referring to "Now we will wipe out your stakes for sure!!!". That's what they were afraid of. That's a pretty hefty amount of money, and I'm sure the now-main-investor wasn't happy about losing control over this pool of money. IF the wittnesses were clear about their intents and IF they were super-transparent that they absolutely will not erase it, then maybe today's takeover weren't happening. Just maybe. But I'm sure that agitating the crowd to erase those funds will not make the situation lighter. That's all what I wanted to say.
2905
2906    0
2907    0.00 
2908
2909geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
2910
2911I am pretty sure we will end up with two chains now. 100% centralizing the chain was not the way to go.
2912
2913At this point Justin is worthless in the blockchain space. Tron will tank after these actions. What a scammer!
2914
2915    1
2916    0.00 
2917
2918ookamisuuhaisha 57 6 hours ago
2919
2920Yup. Everything looks like this is going to happen. Especially 100% wittness pool + 24h powerdown. I'm actually pretty surprised that it's 24h, not 1 minute or "immediate". I wonder why did they even considering leaving any delay. But, we'll see. There's some slight chance that this will actually be positive. Wanna a lotto ticket, anyone?
2921
2922    0
2923    0.00 
2924
2925geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
2926
2927What do you mean 24hr power-down? I just tried, it is still 13 weeks. or is it only for their accounts?
2928
2929    0
2930    0.00 
2931
2932ookamisuuhaisha 57 6 hours ago
2933
2934In this article under which we're commenting now (https://steempeak.com/@steemitblog/an-open-letter-to-the-community-hf22-5) there is a note in "Commitment to the Community" stating that they are going to reduce the power-down time to 24h. Now this article has been edited and the same note states
2935
2936    Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.
2937
2938They changed 24h to 1-3 days, probably it sounds now less outrageous :)
2939
2940    0
2941    0.00 
2942
2943fractalnode 58 4 hours ago
2944
2945it should have been done a long time ago and restore SBD settlement in STEEM after 24h, as it used to be
2946
2947    1
2948    0.00 
2949
2950geekgirl 71 6 hours ago
2951
2952Ok, thanks.
2953
2954    0
2955    0.00 
2956
2957lordbutterfly 69 7 hours ago
2958
2959Further escalating what??? He already took over the chain. Its like i beat you with a bat and someone comes in and tell you: "Hey dont be mad, youll further escalate the situation".
2960Its already escalated dumbass
2961
2962    0
2963    0.00 
2964
2965ookamisuuhaisha 57 6 hours ago
2966
2967If you are lying on the floor bleeding becuase you just got your shit beaten out of you, will you further shake your fists at the attackers? That's how you get killed IRL by an angry mob. It works only on the movies where some superhero in a plastic suit may rescue you and congratulate you your courage in dire times. I absolutely agree that it's just about as escalated as it could ever be. But will shouting empty threats help in anything? If I shout Im gonna erase them all, will that fix anything? If we all shout this, will that fix anything? The best we can do now is to either GTFO to another medium/chain so they loose all their customers and momentum, or to somehow get it all on a more diplomatic/al way instead of kicking around and stealing candies one from each other.
2968
2969    0
2970    0.00 
2971
2972lordbutterfly 69 6 hours ago
2973
2974Youre already dead...
2975
2976    0
2977    0.00 
2978
2979v4vapid 72 6 hours ago
2980FORK YOU!
2981
2982
2983Crime Scene.png
2984
2985    5
2986    0.26 
2987
2988liberosist 70 6 hours ago
2989
2990    This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.
2991
2992Irony as thick as a rhinoceros' hide.
2993
2994    5
2995    0.24 
2996
2997whatamidoing 69 6 hours ago
2998
2999An appeal to steemit users:
3000
3001As this drama plays out, please reach out to the friends you’ve made here and make sure you stay connected even if this place falls apart. Love you all
3002
3003    4
3004    0.22 
3005
3006shmoogleosukami 53 5 hours ago
3007
3008So basically steemit has full control over everything that goes into the steem blockchain.
30091-3day powerdown. WTF!!! we never wanted that. We already had a massive debate about it saying anything lower than 4 weeks seem risky due to how account recovery works and such.
3010
3011You've already thrown in a ton of things you are planning on doing without even consulting the community and we have no say now cause you've just demonstrated that at any point in time you can take full control of the blockchain.
3012
3013There is absolutely no way anyone can trust the blockchain as it is now. There is no decentralized governance anymore as you've just demonstrated.
3014
3015Well done.
3016
3017    1
3018    0.17 
3019
3020snook 69 6 hours ago
3021
3022I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how the Witnesses would act.
3023
3024JSun should have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA. He should have known we are Steemians and the word SMT.
3025
3026Think about what all has happened from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.
3027
3028Now it is getting even better because everyone is fighting in the comments from fear and disbelief while watching our home fall apart.
3029
3030Everyone knew how much money JSun has. Take away a new toy from someone and do you think they will be happy?
3031
3032Would you? if you, meaning anyone on Steem, had a billion dollars and spent some pocket change on a new toy just sit back while people took it away from you.
3033
3034Okay, not all of it away, but tied you up in a corner to sit and think about what you have not done yet...
3035
3036We Steemian either ALL stick together and now wait or leave. Either way, fighting in the comments with each other and calling people names brings us Steemians farther apart not closer.
3037
3038Now if you had just written the post above would you want everyone fighting and not talking to each other like below OR it quiet so you do not know what is going on?
3039
3040Just my thoughts.......
3041
3042    7
3043    0.14 
3044
3045enginewitty 70 6 hours ago
3046
3047Exactly. There was never any confusion on their end, but they sure instilled it with a few purposefully guided word raps and fed the dogs their bones. They have been giving @ned shit for years and trying to bully him into doing this that and the other. SO, he said, fine, you don't like me, ta hell with ya. Let someone else deal with you for awhile. Now, the new guy, isn't as tolerant as the last guy. He'll take his toys back and punch you in the damn face. Just sayin. It is sad everyone calling them names and when it comes right down to it, they haven't GIVEN THEM A GODDAM CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING YET. Sorry, got stupid there for a second.
3048
3049    2
3050    0.01 
3051
3052enforcer48 68 5 hours ago
3053
3054The only stupid you got there is thinking he even needed a chance to do anything.
3055
3056He doesn't need your chances. His mind was made up day one.
3057
3058He doesn't need you in his new platform. He doesn't even need the community. There are enough people in China to fill the void.
3059
3060    0
3061    0.00 
3062
3063enginewitty 70 5 hours ago
3064
3065We're all doomed! Run for the hills!
3066
3067    0
3068    0.00 
3069
3070enforcer48 68 5 hours ago
3071
3072Tis a minor inconvenience.
3073
3074    0
3075    0.00 
3076
3077freedomtowrite 64 5 hours ago
3078
3079Are you sure you are smart enough for this comment? ??
3080
3081    0
3082    0.00 
3083
3084enginewitty 70 5 hours ago
3085
3086Prolly not.
3087
3088    0
3089    0.00 
3090
3091berniesanders 76 5 hours ago
3092
3093Who the fuck are you? You don't even have any stake here you poor little bitch.
3094
3095    0
3096    0.00 
3097
3098enginewitty 70 5 hours ago
3099
3100I'm Batman! The Joker? The Riddler. Nobody.
3101
3102    0
3103    0.00 
3104
3105novacadian 57 3 hours ago
3106
3107    Sorry, got stupid there for a second.
3108
3109Just because your stupid does not mean you are not correct. ?
3110
3111    0
3112    0.00 
3113
3114enginewitty 70 2 hours ago
3115
3116Facts are facts. Regardless how people feel about them.
3117
3118    0
3119    0.00 
3120
3121freedompoint 74 5 hours ago
3122
3123I can't help but stand back and slow clap!
3124
3125I do not ever debate the idea of "right" or "wrong" , but I do appreciate playing chess which has moves and counter moves.
3126
3127Anyone can see there has been actions and reactions. It seems like the witnesses idea to protect the chain was to use gasoline to put out a fire that wasn't even burning yet due to fear...and now it is burning.
3128
3129I think when it comes to decisions that are made it is simple...if someone makes a decision they should be willing to live with whatever comes from their decisions...... Welcome to #newsteem ??
3130
3131    6
3132    0.08 
3133
3134enginewitty 70 4 hours ago
3135
3136Well put hombre. Who in their right mind, knowing it could be easily countered, would have done what they did? Just saying. It was like going to play football against the Seahawks when all they knew how to play was Jenga.
3137
3138    0
3139    0.00 
3140
3141mahdiyari 66 6 hours ago
3142
3143image.png
3144
3145    3
3146    0.07 
3147
3148scooter77 67 8 hours ago
3149
3150RIP Steem - A wonderful community ruined by the greedy actions of a few. I can't believe that you used customer funds sitting on exchanges to make this happen. Disgraceful.
3151
3152Fork out their stake. Now to decide what shall we call the new Fork of Steem?
3153
3154    7
3155    0.07 
3156
3157holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
3158
3159Steem-Safu?
3160
3161    1
3162    0.00 
3163
3164theadmiral0 52 6 hours ago
3165
3166Holy crap - You've just shown your WILLING to do the EXACT same thing you are saying is HOSTILE to do?
3167
3168    If STEEMINC don't like something whats stops you doing the same thing in the future?
3169    How can you build a trusting community when you don't value it.
3170    Isn't it a bit hypocritical?
3171
3172    4
3173    0.07 
3174
3175osavi 55 6 hours ago
3176
3177What the hell?!
3178"New witness" accounts were created yesterday and today they are steem witness? How? Everything is on the blockchain.
3179What we can learn from TRON? How to centralize the ecosystem? How to impose censorship?
3180THIS IS NOT STEEM WHAT WE WANT TO!
3181Only #SteemClassic
3182
3183    5
3184    0.06 
3185
3186maiyude 60 8 hours ago
3187
3188牛逼，可以预见一个分叉要发生了。
3189
3190    48
3191    0.04 
3192
3193trumpman 71 7 hours ago
3194
3195HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
3196
3197    4
3198    0.04 
3199
3200lucylin 64 6 hours ago
3201
3202I couldn't have said it better myself.
3203
3204    0
3205    0.00 
3206
3207mobbs 69 5 hours ago
3208
3209Classic Trumpman lol
3210
3211    0
3212    0.00 
3213
3214d0zer 59 5 hours ago
3215
3216I had hope when you bought Steemit but now it’s all over. Community, maybe we can come together and start one last initiative? An international powerdown day.
3217
3218    1
3219    0.03 
3220
3221moeknows 58 8 hours ago
3222
3223I am a bit of a layperson here, but doesn't this action kind of justify the soft fork? It seems like better communication should have taken place.
3224
3225    6
3226    0.03 
3227
3228notconvinced 52 7 hours ago
3229
3230No the softfork is the same difference as this. The Softfork highlighted Steems flaw and Justin doubled down to prove its been Centralized all along.
3231
3232    2
3233    0.02 
3234
3235moeknows 58 7 hours ago
3236
3237Good point
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3242stoodkev 69 8 hours ago
3243
3244It does, they basically just centralized Steem, using funds on exchanges that probably don t even belong to them. But hey, what we did was criminal.
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3249lordbutterfly 69 8 hours ago
3250
3251Of course the funds dont belong to them.
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3256ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
3257
3258This isnt mutually exclusive, Binance can be criminals as well as the steem witnesses. But I suspect the TOS of Binance probably make them proxies to your steem (or other cryptos) otherwise you could literally call autorities.
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3263joythewanderer 77 7 hours ago
3264
3265It's sad that exchanges agree to do that, time to boycott those exchanges I guess, centralised exchanges are now the big player on crypto world, but it doesn't mean it will forever be the case lol.
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3270netuoso 70 7 hours ago
3271
3272This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid. We knew it would happen because of Suns previous actions on Tron. Welcome to Tron 2.0
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3277moeknows 58 7 hours ago
3278
3279Well, again speaking as a layperson, it seems that the fears were Justified.
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3284novacadian 57 3 hours ago
3285
3286    This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid.
3287
3288<sarcasm>That worked out well.</sarcasm>
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3293skinnercrypto 54 5 hours ago
3294
3295You know what? This might be fair. I figured that increased interoperability and continued maintenace of Steem instead of abandonment or replacement is good. I want that. I like Steem a lot.
3296
3297Lets find a crossroads people, and get through this. Steem on.
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3302ladybug146 66 8 hours ago
3303
3304Bye bye decentralization hello hostile takeover just like much of the community suspected eh! Fucking sellout douche canoe.
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3309gerber 61 8 hours ago
3310
3311you just basically did the same thing... dpos in action :) now we have full decentralization :D so much fun :)
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3316udezee 65 7 hours ago
3317
3318This is hilarious. Broken promises.
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3323ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
3324
3325Well, he technically didnt use the steemit funds.:p
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3330udezee 65 7 hours ago
3331
3332Read the announcement again.
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3337pangoli 68 4 hours ago
3338
3339He 'technically' didn't use steemit's stake. lol
3340We froze steemit's stake last week, remember?
3341He got his friends from the exchanges (binance and Huobi) to help him vote his cronies and took over the chain.
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3346bala41288 69 7 hours ago
3347
3348    Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.
3349
3350Using the stake from exchanges to take over the blockchain is also a crime and illegal act if you don't get it. This is a stupid move from you Justin. Now we all understand that you are as bad as Ned.
3351
3352After all this, I had hopes on steemit and stayed neutral on this. Now I'm skeptical about the future of this chain.
3353
3354You guys open your big mouth to talk today and give an announcement. Where did you keep your azz on 13th when all this shit happened. I guess the announcement and all this should have been told to us when Ned met Justin in a bar to sell off Steemit.
3355
3356I guess this one action will make people understand how bad you are. Such a shame!!
3357
3358Today may not be the end of Steem but this place will be full of shit. Sad day for the community.
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3363ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
3364
3365Did you know that we HAD a tool that could prevent that?
3366https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights
3367It was explicitely designed for this reason: lock-out voting rights of accounts that should not be able to vote at all. Sounds like exchanges' virtual/technical accounts, right? I'm so sad that I accidentally learned about that operation only like a week ago.. [thanks to inertia186's https://github.com/steemit/steem-ruby/blob/f477239d45212fd2294f68364c32b80f91f42089/test/steem/broadcast_test.rb#L38 :) ]
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3372crypto.piotr 69 6 hours ago
3373
3374It's hard not to agree with most of your points @bala41288
3375
3376I wonder how things would look if soft fork wouldn't happen. The moment when this fork took place - I felt that our community declared open conflict with Justin and I figured that if I were him - I would do anything and everything to remove current witnesses from their positions. I really feel that we didn't give him any reason to avoid doing it.
3377
3378Cheers, Piotr
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3383donekim 76 6 hours ago
3384
3385What the fuck are you guys doing...?
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3390enforcer48 68 4 hours ago
3391
3392The Party has come to take over I guess.
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3397howo 69 7 hours ago
3398
3399Well, today is the day steem dies. As a witness I am sorry, we tried hard to prevent this from happening but the game was rigged from the start.
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3404chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3405
3406If you were against the soft fork I'd love to hear what you have to say now
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3411penderis 63 7 hours ago
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3416chekohler 69 4 hours ago
3417
3418You're just trying to stir things up aren't you
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3423ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
3424
3425I was against the soft fork and I still am. You dont resolve issues by escalating.
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3430chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3431
3432You don't that's correct, but you do show peoples character when you escalate!
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3437techcoderx 64 7 hours ago
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3439Yes I am against the soft fork as I do not believe in censorship. I think that 0.22.2 just didn't work at all
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3444chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3445
3446Well, I guess you sort of got your way since they're just jumped over the soft fork! I think it was a good acid test for the new management and they failed with this move
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3451pangoli 68 4 hours ago
3452
3453The witnesses probably should have tried to talk about this before taking actions to freeze steemit's accounts.
3454
3455I remember the last time there was as little as a whisper about forking steemit's stakes, ned started powering down. They agreed such a thing won't happen as long as he accepted to use the stakes for development purposes, which he did.
3456
3457Under new leadership, we should have reached out to rediscuss those terms first. But no, we had to act out of fear by freezing their stakes first. At that point, our intent didn't matter to Justin Sun. He bought the company with his money and he had to protect his assets from threats.
3458
3459I also think we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake in the first place. If we believed it didn't belong to him, freezing it was a move we should have done a long, long time ago.
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3464chekohler 69 4 hours ago
3465
3466From what I read, they tried to reach out and got radio silence and saw an opportunity to force comms with the soft fork before they were voted out like what has just happened. I think the end result is basically the same, they would have been kicked out sooner or later.
3467
3468It's just good to see the length at which these so-called decentralisation evangelists are willing to go to keep control, he showed his hands and it looks plenty filthy to me, but that's just my opinion
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3473novacadian 57 3 hours ago
3474
3475The reason for me being against 22.2 was that it did not fix the problem of a majority stake holder in a universal way but instead targeted specific accounts which broke the trust of the chain. STINC's actions has proven me correct on the first point and it is hard to see how that trust can be fixed.
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3480chekohler 69 3 hours ago
3481
3482Yea sure it didn’t fix anything but I just thought it was to get discussions going over what to do with it since a new stake holder could do what they did now! I thought it was about agreeing new social contracts that community would be okay with I read a post about proposals on what to do with the stake which sounded good
3483
3484Anyway thing of the past now
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3489gadrian 65 8 hours ago
3490
3491well done. we really needed an escalation of the mess and if you talk about an action that could be "deemed illegal and criminal", then what's yours like?
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3496baah 61 6 hours ago
3497
3498    On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.
3499
3500Bullshit. Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community but by slandering them in this way and the overwhelming majority stakeholders that vetted them with their STAKE and supported the hf in effort of keeping the integrity of our chain as intact as possible, you've revealed yourselves as two faced liars. You do not care about the integrity of the project, especillay as the hf you deem hostile was in response to direct threats of underming the entire EcoSystem by having it moved over to Tron, as numerous sources have reported Internal Communications and plans for this. You have nothing, no more thin veneer of respect, no more trust, you have forefited everything that you claim, including your stake, exactly by Undoing the CONSENSUS Fork, and we all know that Consensus is Law, you went Directly Against the code.
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3505novacadian 57 3 hours ago
3506
3507    Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community
3508
3509Every witness that had my support and installed 22.2 lost my vote on the day it was announced. They broke the trust of the chain, regardless of what actions have followed.
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3514firstamendment 55 4 hours ago
3515
3516remember, now that they control the witnesses-they are the community. So when they say the community decides....it means they decide.
3517
3518Time to serve an injunction up their a__, if anyone has the money for such a suit.
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3523dalz 67 4 hours ago
3524
3525The 30 witnesses voting rule.
3526That is who to blame!
3527
3528Lesson learned the hard way.
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3533tsnaks 63 5 hours ago
3534
3535This post talks so much about TRON
3536
3537I came to this platform because of STEEM . . .
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3542jeffjagoe 70 4 hours ago
3543
3544I usually hate government intervention... but I would be very happy to see the SEC investigate and prosecute you criminals.
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3549thelogicaldude 62 4 hours ago
3550
3551I get to do another 100% downvote! This was the bullshit we were afraid of in the first place!
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3556allcapsonezero 61 4 hours ago
3557
3558"This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen."
3559
3560I think it just did.
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3565sn0n 59 5 hours ago
3566
3567Breathe everyone. This may seem crazy, but things will work themselves out and correct. The technology stack is what makes steem, steemians make it home. Our home has been a bit cluttered lately, maybe a cleanup is what's needed?
3568Where do your values lay?
3569
3570Because if it's decentralization, go for the pure decentralized services, the ones not involving currency, the ones doing it because it's the right thing.
3571
3572If it's because you "get paid for your content", this takeback is the right thing, because it shows that the blockchain integrity of wallets, won't be compromised.
3573
3574You can change the deck at a poker game, but you can never steal someone's chips. The decks been stacked, time to shuffle it.
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3579funnyman 70 4 hours ago
3580
3581Softfork 22.2 shouldn't have happened in the first place and more than half of the community was against it. Justin, being a rich and smart man with great connections would have anyway taken it back. I won't say that this is the right move to do it but he only had this choice left to get what it's his.
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3586spectrumecons 68 7 hours ago
3587
3588WhatisTHIS.jpg
3589
3590This is insane.
3591
3592Is this legal?
3593
3594It certainly feels disgusting.
3595
3596OurNEWwitnesses.jpg
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3601techslut 70 4 hours ago
3602
3603What the what now? So... this was never a decentralized blockchain but a bad illusion of one? Shame I wasted so much time on it. Prepare for mass exodus and posts of community leaders announcing what crypto-blogging platform they're moving to. See you all there, I guess.
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3608tonytrillions 65 7 hours ago
3609Y'all have to come to your senses and stop lying to yourselves.
3610
3611Steemit is centralised and that's why it can be sold away, but #Bitcoin? Nobody can buy that crypto tech, moreover its owner is anonymous making ít even more decentralised.
3612
3613Its only in steemit where a group of so called witnesses can freeze a stake. I have never heard of a freeze of Bitcoin. Difference between centralisation and decentralisation
3614
3615Y'all authors & curators you thinking you're special in any case? LoL You ain't different either, they can freeze your $10000 stake and you can do nothing about it....so wake up. Dreamtime is over!
3616
3617When the dust settles and many come to this realization, they will be trembling like a jackhammer
3618Justin wants to use Steemit for his own gain then dump y'all...
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3623apshamilton 64 6 hours ago
3624
3625But I can't post my blog on Bitcoin.
3626There was hope that Steem could be trully decentralised (and it was being slowly but surely).
3627This has set things back a long way.
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3632justyy 73 7 hours ago
3633
3634牛掰 !thumbup 干的漂亮
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3639movingman 69 8 hours ago
3640
3641I wasnt confused until Im reading the comments.. So the ninja mined stake of steemit wont be frozen? Now im confused!
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3646chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3647
3648They've got a brand of new witnesses they can reverse the fork and go back to what it was. Using a massive borrowed stake to unlock their Ninja mine
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3653movingman 69 3 hours ago
3654
3655Thanks, I just read that on the post from taskmaster. What a clusterfuck ?
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3660jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
3661
3662They used the ninja mined stake to vote with combined with stake that was bought off exchanges.
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3667drakos 69 4 hours ago
3668
3669Congratulations asshole, you just alienated the whole STEEM community.
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3674bil.prag 67 4 hours ago
3675
3676anyone care to tell people what exchanges are doing with their coin? or i just did not know that is a normal thing.
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3681costanza 68 7 hours ago
3682
3683RIP STEEM
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3688flaws 72 8 hours ago
3689
3690Thanks for your quick explanation, I was just packing up my stuff. Let's hope things go well from now on. :)
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3695ammonite 66 8 hours ago
3696
3697That escalated quickly!
3698
3699    . The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions.
3700
3701can you be more specific?
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3706chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3707
3708aka turn steemit into a gambling app. Lol its all lip service. Couldn't even wait for the town hall. No user has a say on this chain as of now
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3713ammonite 66 6 hours ago
3714
3715Damn it. What a start to the week!
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3720holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
3721
3722Are funds safu?
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3727ausbitbank 72 8 hours ago
3728
3729I would withdraw anything you have from exchanges (sell to btc first, this wont end well). They cannot possibly cover withdrawals because they powered up a heap of customer funds illegally to do this.
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3734holoz0r 70 8 hours ago
3735
3736I'd be interested to see how much liquid steem is left on exchange accounts or cold storage at this stage.
3737
3738Right now, I really fucking regret my car's licence plates.
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3743roelandp 74 7 hours ago
3744
3745Your carplate has "binance" or "huobi" on it?
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3750holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
3751
3752even worse... steemit
3753
3754See my regrets from late last year here
3755
3756https://steempeak.com/steem/@holoz0r/my-failed-attempt-to-promote-steem-it-through-automotive-propaganda-and-vanity
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3761apshamilton 64 6 hours ago
3762
3763LOL!
3764Justin probably owns them too :-)
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3769elliotjgardner 61 6 hours ago
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3771B8B0338F-941C-4E4F-8C5D-9A7B97FA787A.png
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3776mamanovasim 60 8 hours ago
3777
3778sad to see this.. you are ruining my steem blockchain
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3783apsu 65 8 hours ago
3784
3785Also, you just pointed out you have no interest in the community. You aren't committed, it seems you never have been committed. You don't care about the community or the users.
3786
3787You don't dare to say that you're committed. You are the bad actors and the other witnesses cared about the community.
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3792crypto-pilot 25 7 hours ago
3793
3794Anything that is owned by or that can be bought by someone is not decentralized. This has just been proven. In fact, as a crypto investor for years I believe that we we have all been fooled into thinking that we are investing in a decentralized solution, and, it may have started out that way. Like anything, the rich will centralize everything they can and make you pay for it. Nothing changed, the world is still the same as it was before 2009. Good luck everyone. :-)
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3799yogajill 61 7 hours ago
3800
3801Well, That went from bad to worse. Ok Steem Fam, ❤? What next.....
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3806chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3807
3808I guess we become another gambling app on tron lol
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3813yogajill 61 7 hours ago
3814
3815Ugh ....talk about buzz kill! This is such a wild, crazy ride man. Just ?. This is so precisely why decentralization is needed!
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3820chekohler 69 7 hours ago
3821
3822Yes indeed, I always told myself i'll be here till it goes to 0 or to the moon, seems 0 is more likely now! Seems like chains aren't as immutable as we've been sold
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3827ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
3828
3829So, what does this hard fork do exactly?
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3834ammonite 66 7 hours ago
3835
3836Capture_2.jpg
3837
3838Are these all new witnesses or are they just voted up in ranking?
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3843spectrumecons 68 7 hours ago
3844
3845Fake witnesses.
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3850netuoso 70 7 hours ago
3851
3852They are running a single server for all those witnesses most likely
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3857pundito 64 5 hours ago
3858
3859Just a thought:
3860If it is a single server and this server goes down (DDOS, Corona, fire) all 20 "witnesses" were gone, right? Who would take their position and what are their rights @netuoso?
3861
3862Just a thought ...
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3867netuoso 70 4 hours ago
3868
3869If the server went down the witnesses would miss blocks and the chain latency would increase. Since the witnesses have higher votes than any others, they would not get voted out and the chain would suffer degradation of quality.
3870
3871Eventually the chain would become fully unstable.
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3876pundito 64 4 hours ago
3877
3878OK - I somehow hoped the system would replace them with the next available ones - but I guess you know that :)
3879
3880So that's no option - thanks for explaining it to me!!!
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3885abitcoinskeptic 73 7 hours ago
3886
3887    With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community.
3888
3889Either that is a typo and you Mean MARCH 13th, or you are full of shit.
3890
3891Please confirm.
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3896shadowspub 70 5 hours ago
3897
3898seems about right .. hold a meeting on Friday the 13th .. fits with the rest of the train wreck moves
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3903abitcoinskeptic 73 4 hours ago
3904
3905I think it was an issue with clarity. What they meant to say is that they met on Feb 13th and plan to meet at an unspecified date.
3906In anycase, this is a disaster. 20 witnesses and their supporters (I personally didn't like all of them) is certainly better than 1 person.
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3911shadowspub 70 3 hours ago
3912
3913Feb 13th would have put a meeting the day before the acquisition was announced .. the Steemit team found out the same way we did on the 14th so I think Feb. should have read March
3914
3915And yes 20 people we know are real is always preferable to 20 sock puppets and one puppeteer
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3920abitcoinskeptic 73 3 hours ago
3921
3922I was just thinking the same it was late Friday afternoon here (korean time) so it was definitely not the 13. In anycase, I don't think they care about this. The point is it is their puppet show now.
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3927aagabriel 57 7 hours ago
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3929antimalware.news-Trojan-horse.jpg
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3934notconvinced 52 7 hours ago
3935
3936Well, you single-handedly taking over the witnesses and changing the powerdown to 24 hours will tank the value and send ppl running.
3937
3938I just came back to Steem a few weeks ago after 2 years. Now I'm thinking that's a bad idea.
3939
3940Way to make an Oligarchy claiming to be decentralized even worse...
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3945holoz0r 70 7 hours ago
3946
3947Is that 20 day powerdown in the new code?
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3952notconvinced 52 7 hours ago
3953
3954Sorry, I mistyped...I meant 24hrs, it's early here.
3955
3956It says above that Justin will be changing powering down to 24hrs to bring it in line with other blockchains.
3957
3958Quote,
3959"Deploy Hard Fork 22.6 as soon as possible to reduce power down to 24 hours in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications."
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3964will-richards 51 7 hours ago
3965
3966Why is there no PR, release, commit or link to 22.5 that I can find? How can we validate what these new witnesses are running?
3967
3968Posted using Partiko Android
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3973crystalandbones 56 6 hours ago
3974
3975It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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3980abdulmanan 66 5 hours ago
3981
3982https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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3988ammonite 66 7 hours ago
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3990I am sorry for the American community when they wake up to this.
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3995jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
3996
3997Worst thing to wake up to in a very long time.
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4002ammonite 66 5 hours ago
4003
4004Sorry, I think everyone is in shock and didn't want to wake you.
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4009jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
4010
4011Gah! We should have hard forked and not given them the benefit of the doubt that they were decent human beings.
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4016ammonite 66 5 hours ago
4017
4018I think a Hardfork will probably be in the works right now.
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4023jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
4024
4025Yeah. Unfortunately it is the only solution at this point.
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4030aagabriel 57 7 hours ago
4031
4032@justinsunsteemit studied in the typical #mkultra inductee universities and became the new trojan horse for Gen Y wannabee trusted Knight Steemplars of the CCP & PLA.
4033
4034image.png
4035
4036    A fantasy journey of "post-90s entrepreneurial leaders"
4037    This is the longest push of GQ24 in history. It gathers two character reports published in the August issue, which respectively record the growth path and spiritual world of the two "time youths". One of them is Sun Yuchen from Peking University and the other is Liang Zhi from Tsinghua University.
4038
4039http://www.gq.com.cn/celebrity/news_182560eb97720e71.html
4040
4041https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gq.com.cn%2Fcelebrity%2Fnews_182560eb97720e71.html
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4046ragnarokdel 57 7 hours ago
4047
4048It's funny how people are taking a stance against Steemit taking a unilateral decision with this when this is exactly what the witnesses did not long ago with the soft fork. Both things happened within closed meetings with code that wasnt spoken of until it was in place.
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4053scorer 58 7 hours ago
4054
4055Roadmap without dates is a dream.
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4060beingunknown 25 7 hours ago
4061
4062What a load of bullcrap. This blockchain was living off of the interactions and the community. And now you are destroying it for personal gains. Textbook superiority complex..
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4067yungchief 63 7 hours ago
4068
4069Whatever its best for the community, like Justin said in his Open letter, that he will be having a meeting with 50 witnesses. I think it is time for that. MSP waves can make the discussion faster. This is time for everyone to work together
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4074enforcer48 68 7 hours ago
4075
4076Of which 20 is him? lol
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4081pangoli 68 4 hours ago
4082
4083lmao
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4088moon32walker 71 7 hours ago
4089
4090These are the consequences when one person @ned decides to sell, all that talk about decentralization was just a marketing trick, dpos proved to be a flawed system, specially if you include premined coins.
4091
4092What can I say this was the worst imaginable start of new partnership, witnesses did a radical move with softfork, steemit inc did even more radical move with voting in new witnesses. The trust is ruined for sure on both sides.
4093
4094With all this going on I have a legitimate fear that I wasted almost 4 years of my life on this blockchain. Things will calm down as they always do, but being an active Steemian during these days of radical moves is not easy at all.
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4099nonsowrites 69 7 hours ago
4100
4101As a community member i am totally against the actions of steemit and tron to hostilely take over the steem blockchain. This wont pan out well for any body. The beginning of the end.
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4106chewing 52 7 hours ago
4107
4108Good way! Make STEEM better platform for people!
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4113creativeblue 59 7 hours ago
4114
4115Wow. What a day.
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4120fullcoverbetting 69 7 hours ago
4121
4122Well this is getting interesting. If you do call the previous softfork maliciously, this one also should be called malicious. No information has been given what is included in this harfork.
4123I guess we have to live with this fact at the moment, because according to the SP vested I was a so called call of the community!
4124
4125Cheers,
4126Peter
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4131lucylin 64 6 hours ago
4132
4133Malicious was the intent, reaction was the reaction to malicious intent.
4134Naive beyond belief to believe anything else would have been the _re_action.
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4139cwow2 65 7 hours ago
4140
4141Hmm... So I happy I just powered up x)
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4146apsu 65 6 hours ago
4147
4148What a dickless owner on Steemit inc. and whole Steemit team is built from fucking losers. No wonder how Steemit.com has always been a fucking disaster, when people are spineless and stupid as hell.
4149
4150Enjoy flagging all critical comments and pretending to care about the community? You have no value.
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4155sayee 66 6 hours ago
4156
4157Thinking positively is good. I do hope more users from Tron will be able to enjoy the experience that steemit has given us and also enjoy playing splinterlands game. I already have used tronlink and wallet to buy dec for the ingame. It would be great to see a post on tron based games in here too so that we people can also learn more about it.
4158
4159I am a nearly veteran user of steemit and associated apps and I just do not want to be taken in by the FUD that is circling our heads as of now. We are all users who have invested both time, money and even based our life around this website and are really scared about what will happen to us steemians. So, I hope you guys will keep the steem side of it and hope it will not affect us all badly.
4160
4161Wishing you all the best of luck and may good happen to all.
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4166adetorrent 74 6 hours ago
4167
4168    Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.
4169
4170Dang! This is kind of good. I'd go for 3 days just to offer some protection from hackers.]
4171
4172    For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community .........
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4177deniskj 63 6 hours ago
4178
4179Today, the Steem blockchain as we know it died. Implement the hardfork so I can take out my stake and leave.
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4184sneak 64 6 hours ago
4185
4186    Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.
4187
4188Wow. Somebody doesn’t know how blockchains or p2p works.
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4193ash 72 5 hours ago
4194
4195I think 80% here have no idea about DPoS and the plutocracy that comes with it.
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4200sneak 64 5 hours ago
4201
4202This isn't about DPoS. It's simply not illegal or criminal to patch a f/oss p2p app running on your own machine, which is what the witnesses did. This ain't a bank account, it's a blockchain: it's a game where everything's made up and the points don't matter.
4203
4204Nobody "froze" an account, because there are no accounts and nothing to steal.
4205
4206Cryptocurrency tokens aren't assets. They're not property. You can't own them. You can have knowledge of a key, and you can publish transactions derived from it. They're speech, not property.
4207
4208Freedom of association means that nobody has to listen to your speech if they don't like what you're saying. This includes your transactions, and applies to block producers.
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4213crystalandbones 56 6 hours ago
4214
4215It looks like they just published the code. There is a pull request on their github. https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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4220rycharde 63 6 hours ago
4221
4222    open for discussion for better economic implications.
4223
4224I have studied this Steem blockchain and ecosystem for over 2 years and have an understanding of how the different parts fit together.
4225
4226The macro-economics of Steem is astonishingly stable and self-correcting.
4227
4228The micro-economics needs some work as the same parameters of reward curve and curation split do not affect users in the way people seem to think. That needs some work - and some thinking.
4229
4230I have spoken before to a previous Steemit Inc dev - was some time ago and about how to attenuate vote-rings. It didn't come to anything then, but feel free to get in touch on Discord (same username).
4231
4232The other bullet points sound like what I had envisioned happening.
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4237sneak 64 4 hours ago
4238
4239https://sneak.berlin/20200220/discord-is-not-an-acceptable-choice-for-free-software-projects/
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4244ash 72 4 hours ago
4245
4246OT: isn't matrix/riot a good replacement?
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4251sneak 64 4 hours ago
4252
4253AFAIK, there are no good implementations of the matrix protocol yet. Everyone I've talked to says Synapse is hot garbage. I have no desire to run prototype-grade software any longer; I already spent a big chunk of my life keeping early versions of steemd from falling over.
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4258joanstewart 65 6 hours ago
4259
4260    Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history.
4261
4262Downvoted this since it looks Rogue, all top witnesses are not original Steem Witnesses, all on 22.5 all on same income value....
4263
4264If it looks like shit, smells like shit it must be..... Sorry just the way I feel!
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4269vgalue 65 6 hours ago
4270
4271Socialism was imposed by steemit inc?
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4276lacking 57 6 hours ago
4277
4278Way to prove how decentralized this platform is. I'm out. I knew as soon as the Sun rumors started in December that Steemit was deader than dicks. Why I decided to stick around is beyond me. Fuck the Steemit team. Individually and personally.
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4283kus-knee 74 6 hours ago
4284
4285Floggings will continue until moral improves!
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4290jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
4291
4292An important question to ask here is what was changed in the code of 0.22.5?
4293
4294There is absolutely no documentation of it anywhere.
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4299crystalandbones 56 6 hours ago
4300
4301It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618
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4306jacobpeacock 66 6 hours ago
4307
4308A little late on that.
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4313r1s2g3 58 6 hours ago
4314
4315If power down window is 3 days then what will be post payout window?
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4320planetenamek 63 6 hours ago
4321
4322Da fuck :-D !
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4327edje 69 6 hours ago
4328
4329Hmmmm, how does this work?
4330Hostile takeover is possible?
4331
4332In Marketing they say: Bad news is also good; But I do wonder what happened here will do any good to Steem, as well as to the hard working community giving value to Steem.
4333
4334Additionally: How is it possible to reward Witness more as well as Content creators and/or curators? Does STINC plans to change the Steem token generation algorithms? Floating more Steem per day, and increasing the total finite amount of Steem?
4335
4336Am very concerned about the blah blah marketing message in this post; And the realisation no concrete information is given at all; Did you Guys really thought things through?
4337
4338ps Too bad you guys didn’t pick up on the recent Tweet by Dan Larimer with his congratulations for the development of MIRA; Something he now considers to use at EOS. THAT message should’ve been used for Marketing purposes last few days; Not this blockchain takeover! Did you guys ever went to some sort of Business School?
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4343theguruasia 67 6 hours ago
4344
4345@steemitblog, @ned, @justinsunsteemit,
4346I can express my feeling by 2 words. (fk off)
4347
4348Congratz you just made an unethical move and the chain became centralized. I think it's time to move to the STEEM Classic or whatever.
4349
4350Cheers with your fking centralized sh!t
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4355pele23 67 6 hours ago
4356
4357Well, the weird prt is: nothing illegal happened here... This was about to happenn
4358And we could have this move comin after soft fork22.2...
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4363ayijufridar 68 6 hours ago
4364
4365I should be calm with the closing sentence This will be nothing but an exciting future. But reading a lot of worries in the comments column, my eyes turn dark.
4366
4367Is this the beginning of the end?
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4372holm 67 5 hours ago
4373
4374"Decentralized"... A word with little meaning to the steemit team it seems. :) Good job on fucking everything up.
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4379namiks 64 5 hours ago
4380
4381Go fuck yourselves.
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4386kryptokayden 58 5 hours ago
4387
4388REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
4389
4390image.png
4391https://media.tenor.co/videos/3d800f1bcec32014ff9a7864750c27d6/mp4
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4396coinchaos 63 5 hours ago
4397
4398This is so funny. You are all criminals!
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4403vikisecrets 68 5 hours ago
4404
4405Exchanges voting with customer funds to remove all 20 community voted witnesses is a criminal action! This is exactly what the community wanted to prevent by temporarily freezing the ninja-mined assets of Steemit. On the plus site we and the crypto community as a whole are now learning a great lesson about the weaknesses of a DPOS system and how to improve it in the future. We need to deescalate the situation now and work an a better Steem 2.0 which is more decentralized.
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4410jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
4411
4412This post by @apshamilton sums thing up rather well...
4413HF 22.5: Binance, Poloniex & Houbi Take over Steem
4414
4415https://steempeak.com/palnet/@apshamilton/hf-22-5-binance-poloniex-and-houbi-take-over-steem
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4420tsnaks 63 5 hours ago
4421
4422    Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.
4423
4424You know I am not a crypto guy, I don't have much knowledge about what's going on.
4425
4426But fucking hell, 1-3 days to power down ?? That's criminal
4427
4428Make it at least a week, or more.
4429Powering up should mean commitment.
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4434tamiil 65 4 hours ago
4435
4436Not to mention it was protection against hacks and phishing. Now if someone gets hold of your keys they can instantly cash out. Before this you had time to initiate Steem's account recovery process and secure your account before you lost your money.
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4441namiks 64 5 hours ago
4442
4443This post was given to you by the Communist Party of China.
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4448haikubot 54 5 hours ago
4449
4450This post was given
4451To you by the Communist
4452Party of China.
4453
4454                 - namiks
4455
4456I'm a bot. I detect haiku.
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4461glory7 75 5 hours ago
4462
4463Wow. What a "eye for an eye" movement.
4464
4465After one side did soft fork to remove other side's "rights" without any public conversation/discussion,
4466
4467the other side came back with the same sneak attack and got its "rights" back.
4468
4469Things are getting interesting. Look forward to the town hall meeting.
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4474tamiil 65 5 hours ago
4475
4476Thank you, but I'm done with this version of Steem. If community chosen witnesses decide to fork to Steem Classic or whatever then I go with them, but this here is the last straw. Time to power down and leave.
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4481bil.prag 67 4 hours ago
4482
4483"open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses"
4484that is really easy now that one man is controlling all the witnesses. maybe he will be talking to himself. we want that live.
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4489jacobpeacock 66 4 hours ago
4490
4491Maybe he will do another AMA where he is apparently/possibly/allegedly all coked out.
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4496firepower 79 4 hours ago
4497
4498Disappointed by this hostile take over of the Steem blockchain to say the least!
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4503freddio 59 4 hours ago
4504
4505i dont know,
4506
4507Both hardforks are not that good i think. Will this 1-3 Days powerdown stays forever? Because i dont like it.
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4512tamiil 65 4 hours ago
4513
4514Don't you want scammers to get away with your money or smth? Previously you had plenty of time to get your account back before someone else could get away with your funds in case of phishing. Now not so much, a brighter future indeed.
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4519adetorrent 74 4 hours ago
4520
4521With any luck, the Steem price will surpass my DCA so I can exit to BitCoin or something.
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4526jacobpeacock 66 4 hours ago
4527
4528For those spreading disinformation (and for those who are curious) about Soft Fork 0.22.2 that was intended to prevent this sort of hostile takeover I recommend that you read the following article by @blocktrades
4529The Legal Basis of Cryptocurrency Forks
4530
4531https://steempeak.com/cryptocurrency/@blocktrades/the-legal-basis-of-cryptocurrency-forks
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4536martie7 62 4 hours ago
4537
4538    Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.
4539
4540Yes, it's hurt)))
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4545jacobpeacock 66 4 hours ago
4546
4547This is rather illuminating:
4548@ura-soul Witness Update - Anarchy vs. Empire: TRON Replaces Top Witnesses and Takes Over the STEEM Blockchain
4549
4550https://steempeak.com/witness/@ura-soul/ura-soul-witness-update-anarchy-vs-empire-tron-replaces-top-witnesses-and-takes-over-the-steem-blockchain
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4555jacobpeacock 66 3 hours ago
4556
4557A good video by @lukestokes explaining how STEEM on exchanges was used to vote in new witnesses.
4558Your stake in Steem on centralized exchanges was just used to take over the Steem Blockchain
4559
4560https://steempeak.com/steem/@lukestokes/your-stake-in-steem-on-centralized-exchanges-was-just-used-to-take-over-the-steem-blockchain
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4565glastar 67 3 hours ago
4566
4567China quality!
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4572alexvanaken 66 3 hours ago
4573
4574    More Rewards to Witnesses
4575
4576You mean more for yourself now that you just took over all top 20 witness spots with your sock puppet accounts? @justinsunsteemit
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4581bil.prag 67 3 hours ago
4582
4583    Hello Steemians, we apologize for not updating you sooner but the last thing we wanted to do was give you inaccurate or untruthful information. We have now met with the TRON team and are excited to share with you the outcome of those meetings.
4584
4585you kinda lied just 3 days ago. and you are right, exciting things, you just forgot to tell that exciting things will be a hostile takeover.
4586
4587Also i would like to say hello and thank you to people in SteemIt inc, as they know about this for sure.
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4592namiks 64 3 hours ago
4593
4594    This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.
4595
4596Almost like something you've just done.
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4601flemingfarm 68 3 hours ago
4602
4603Giant cunts! It wasn't a small group it was most of the witnesses. Sounds like you just stole the user funds that were on the exchanges to do something illegal. Nice to see this is how Steem ends. In a pile of flames and rubble. Hoping to see the real witnesses hardfork Steemit and ALL their stake out! Enough of your ineffectiveness! Might be good to look at the number of people who are powering down as a good tell of what the user base thinks of this bullshit.
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4608d00k13 75 3 hours ago
4609
4610Thank you for enabling me to cash out quicker now that you have exposed the flaws to the control of this platform! We may have backed you into a corner but your inability to communicate does not show promise for our community! Do you fully understand that we are not just a blockchain investment to be controlled but a group of real people with interest that can easily change?
4611
4612Can’t say I didn’t see this coming ?‍♂️
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4617crypto.piotr 69 7 hours ago
4618
4619Dear @steemitblog
4620
4621I've surely mixed feeelings about entire situation, however I do understand that recent soft fork could be seen as a hostile behaviour towards new major stakeholder. And I also thought that it could be potentially illegal to do what they did.
4622
4623Already at that moment I thought that if I were Justin, then I would lose my faith in any chance of collaborating with current witnesses and I would feel pushed towards removing them. I'm very worried about future of steemit and steem blockchain - however I would most likely react the same way Justing did.
4624
4625So to certain degree I understand what just happened, as I would do the same.
4626
4627    Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads
4628
4629Removing ads? I wonder why?
4630
4631Yours, Piotr
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4637edje 69 6 hours ago
4638
4639What STINC did (shows how centralisation works) is much more harmfull to the future of Steem and all its services as well as community and foremost the trust and value of the Steem currency, then what the witnesses did with the previous softfork (shows how decentralisation works).
4640
4641Ads: no income and just annoying the users. Revenue model in cryptospace shall not be based on old world models like add.
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4646okean123 64 7 hours ago
4647
4648That's very good news! Good move from Steemit, Binance and Justin!
4649
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4654netuoso 70 7 hours ago
4655
4656    Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.
4657
4658Haha thanks for showing that we were right all along. SteemIt stake was supposed to be nonvoting so you colluded with exchanges to bypass DpoS governance just like you did on your shit chain Tron
4659
4660Ladies and gentlemen, Steemit is now owned by the Chinese government. Bow down and salute your communist overlords
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4666geekgirl 71 7 hours ago
4667
4668They know how to push opposing comments down too. So stupid.
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4673trincowski 67 7 hours ago
4674
4675I created my account on 24 December of 2017. I had never used the Power Down feature ... until now.
4676
4677With this scammy move, you've killed this Network. It's time for me to cash out, while I still can.
4678
4679otgs29.png
4680
4681Thank you, Justin Bieber, for being such a dishonest prick.
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4687ookamisuuhaisha 57 7 hours ago
4688
4689You're powering down, ok, I myself am considering that. But, as the exchanges cooperate with "them", are you sure you really can withdraw your funds? ;)
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4694trincowski 67 5 hours ago
4695
4696Thankfully I was using Bittrex and Blocktrades, which don't appear to be accomplices in this criminal takeover.
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4701yungchief 63 6 hours ago
4702
4703Lol, Not Bieber but Sun. If care its not taken, the sunlight of steemit might soon go off
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4708aagabriel 57 7 hours ago
4709
4710天王蓋地虎，反流氓政府！ Uranus is a tiger, an anti-rogue government!
4711寶塔鎮河妖，中共挨千刀！ The Pagoda Zhenhe Yao, the Chinese Communist Party suffers thousands of swords!
4712嘟∼嘟嘟，開涮習頭豬！ Toot ~ Toot, learn about pigs!
4713嘀∼嘀嘀，拉下習主席！ pull down President Xi!
4714TRONNIE SCUM COMMIE SCUM!!! FUCK YOU TO HELL AND BACK, CUNTS!
4715
4716Central Cyberspace Affairs Comission.png
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4722friendlystranger 53 7 hours ago
4723
4724Finally! Thank you.
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4730witnesstools 44 7 hours ago
4731Hello @steemitblog! You are great!
4732
4733command: !thumbup is powered by witness @justyy and his contributions are: https://steemyy.com
4734More commands are coming!
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4740witnesstools 44 7 hours ago
4741Hello @steemitblog! You are wonderful!
4742
4743command: !thumbup is powered by witness @justyy and his contributions are: https://steemyy.com
4744More commands are coming!
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4750galenkp 74 7 hours ago
4751
4752I'd like to come up with something really intelligent and wise to say but I'm a bit speechless at the moment. So...
4753
4754Fuck you, cock-knocker, will have to suffice.
4755
4756That's all.
4757
4758Actually...
4759
4760Asshole!
4761
4762There. That is all.
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4768lordbutterfly 69 8 hours ago
4769
4770You fucking used exchanges to take over the chain!! ARE YOU RETARDED? That has to be illegal somehow!
4771
4772You commie pieces of shit.
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4778ciska 50 6 hours ago
4779
4780You are the retard. I can see it from the way you behave and talk. Makes zero sense and stop whining like a baby because you got slapped for supporting this violent behavior . Your witnesses made you believe what they want They only protected their monthly stake
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4786apsu 65 8 hours ago
4787
4788Well I have to say, you guys are fucking assholes. Steemit inc. has got their SP in an unjust way and now you're ruining the entire blockchain.
4789
4790Fuck you.
4791
4792Steem is an centralized blockchain controlled by small minded shitheads. You are just a cancer on Steem and you're ruining everything we've hold dear.
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4798stoodkev 69 8 hours ago
4799
4800You re the only bad actor here, you've just centralized a blockchain, using exchanges to make a hostile takeover.
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4806ciska 50 6 hours ago
4807
4808How is this different from what they did to steemit? Freezing accounts who should never been frozen in the first place.
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4813jacobpeacock 66 5 hours ago
4814
4815There was a verbal contract in place that the ninja-mined stake would not be used to vote in witnesses with. Are you just a Justin Sun troll or are you really absolutely clueless about all the nuances involved?
4816
4817Quit spreading lies, misinformation and disinformation in these comments!
4818I just read every one of them from newest to oldest (all 200 and something when I started) on this post and that is your consistent theme.
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