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1[00:00:01] <DoctorGyarados> I should get one of those for Cait
2[00:00:07] <DoctorGyarados> and write in "praise the sun"
3[00:00:08] <Caitiri> ?
4[00:00:15] <DoctorGyarados> I don't know why, but she giggles every time she says it
5[00:00:19] <Caitiri> PRAISE THE SUN
6[00:00:21] <Caitiri> =3
7[00:01:23] <DoctorGyarados> Also, Cait, if you get some free time this week, you should try to fight that Black Knight in the forest, get your own Grass Crest Shield
8[00:01:28] <DoctorGyarados> and maybe wreck Havel's day
9[00:01:32] <DoctorGyarados> Same forest
10[00:01:36] <Caitiri> yes
11[00:01:39] <Caitiri> yes i should
12[00:01:51] <DoctorGyarados> Dark Souls homework is best homework
13[00:02:27] <Caitiri> i want to learn to praise the sun
14[00:02:49] <DoctorGyarados> the altar is past the mean dragon on the bridge
15[00:03:01] <DoctorGyarados> so if you want to figure out a way past him/her
16[00:03:11] <DoctorGyarados> it's literally right behind that door
17[00:04:11] <DoctorGyarados> I'm going to become a Boobguard
18[00:04:22] <DoctorGyarados> They get the healing miracles later in the game
19[00:04:23] <Symphony> ok Ièm gonna go get pizza
20[00:04:30] <Symphony> ...whoa now keyboard
21[00:04:39] <Symphony> I'm*
22[00:04:41] <DoctorGyarados> it switched to French mode
23[00:04:44] <DoctorGyarados> BURN LE WITCH
24[00:04:47] <Symphony> sacre bleu
25[00:04:49] <DoctorGyarados> or la, I guess?
26[00:04:50] <Caitiri> hah your keyboard went canada
27[00:04:52] <LuckieNewt> I thought that was homework from sex ed class
28[00:04:54] <LuckieNewt> :P
29[00:04:58] *Symphony rolls out*
30[00:05:50] <DoctorGyarados> but yeah I get two really powerful healing spells
31[00:06:00] <DoctorGyarados> that affect the entire party, unlike the other healing spells in DS1
32[00:06:16] <DoctorGyarados> One of them requires 48 Faith, though, and that sounds like a lot
33[00:07:08] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v rikadyn
34[00:08:12] <EldraziOutlaw> 48 is a lot
35[00:08:18] <EldraziOutlaw> that's like 48 levels
36[00:08:56] <Zeke229> hello rikadyn
37[00:09:08] <EldraziOutlaw> Caitiri what build are you making in Dark Souls? I assume DoctorGyarados is faith
38[00:09:23] <Caitiri> pyromancer
39[00:09:26] <DoctorGyarados> I mean, yes I have put points in Faith, but I'm still a generic beatsman
40[00:09:32] <DoctorGyarados> I have a beatstick and I beat mans
41[00:09:46] <DoctorGyarados> There are no attack miracles outside of the Sunbro covenant, unfortunately
42[00:09:48] <EldraziOutlaw> ah
43[00:10:05] <DoctorGyarados> My build is literally "Can I stand in front of Caitiri?"
44[00:10:07] *EldraziOutlaw is magic :D*
45[00:10:21] <Caitiri> and i have a giant lance
46[00:10:30] <EldraziOutlaw> I have floating cystal balls :D
47[00:10:34] <Caitiri> tat i poke enemies with through doc
48[00:11:10] <EldraziOutlaw> I need to farm humanity for spiderwoman
49[00:11:44] <DoctorGyarados> Got a Dark Hand or w/e yet?
50[00:11:50] <Roosevelt> ~weather
51[00:11:51] <PyHeufyBot> Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, United States | Temp: 30.5°C / 86.9°F | Weather: Sky Is Clear | Humidity 51% | Wind Speed: 1.9 kmph / 1.2 mph | Wind Direction: WSW | Latest Update: 58 minute(s) ago.
52[00:12:10] <Roosevelt> man the sun is down and it's in the mid 80s
53[00:12:49] <DoctorGyarados> the sun also _just_ went down
54[00:13:10] <EldraziOutlaw> DoctorGyarados I do not
55[00:13:16] <DoctorGyarados> humhum
56[00:13:23] <DoctorGyarados> that's the only way I know to farm humanity
57[00:13:45] <EldraziOutlaw> I have 4 twin and 14 singles in my invintory
58[00:13:47] <EldraziOutlaw> as well as 1 soft
59[00:14:43] <DoctorGyarados> Because if you had a Dark Hand, you can drain humanity from friendly NPCs without turning them hostile or sinning
60[00:16:25] <Dezren> the final area of the dlc is the best place
61[00:16:34] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v CaptainSpam
62[00:17:33] <EldraziOutlaw> Dezren I haven't opened any of the dlc yet
63[00:17:39] <CaptainSpam> Oh, hey, nice.  The latest student loan management site they've shuffled me off to apparently has a site survey when you click the Log Off button.  If you don't either fill it out or explicitly decline it, it doesn't log you out.  Good, that's... design.
64[00:17:41] <UnsafeBot> CaptainSpam: I don't think :qs is a command < From lunik1 on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:31:30 UTC (1 hour 46 minutes ago)
65[00:20:17] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Vaelith
66[00:27:16] <Zeke229> ^mtgb gatecrash
67[00:27:18] <DideRobot> Boosterpack for 'Gatecrash' contains: Basic land: Plains. Rare: Consuming Aberration. Uncommon: Orzhov Charm; Ætherize; Ordruun Veteran. Common: Boros Guildgate; Aerial Maneuver; Dimir Guildgate; Purge the Profane; Warmind Infantry; Pit Fight; Slaughterhorn; Daring Skyjek; Simic Guildgate; Foundry Street Denizen.
68[00:28:58] <Zeke229> http://abcnews.go.com/US/man-struck-lightning-crashes-motorcycle-fast-lane-miraculously/story?id=33131941
69[00:28:59] <PyMoronBot> Man Struck by Lightning, Crashes His Motorcycle in the Fast Lane, Miraculously Survives - ABC News (at abcnews.go.com)
70[00:33:18] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v rikadyn
71[00:33:47] <KidSpanner> Zeke229: What's your pick there?
72[00:34:33] <Zeke229> is consuming aberration any good in draft
73[00:35:16] <KidSpanner> Dimir is not great, but it's gonna be open because everyone knows it's not great
74[00:35:37] <HPBriefcase> Self correcting draft
75[00:35:39] <Dezren> how do people with like 100k tweets ever leave the house?
76[00:36:27] <KidSpanner> Well, time to figure out what regular people do after work
77[00:36:29] <KidSpanner> Later chat
78[00:36:50] *KidSpanner throws a pie at Fay *
79[00:37:09] *Fay ducks*
80[00:37:20] *Dezren gooses*
81[00:40:28] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LadySephiroth
82[00:40:54] <CaptainSpam> "TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND." -- Well, good to know the ticket is non-refundable in case of refund.
83[00:44:18] <Zeke229> can i sleep until saturday
84[00:45:54] <ylegm-blah> only if we get matching pajamas
85[00:49:00] <Zeke229> my motorcycle arrives saturday
86[00:49:21] <Zeke229> i dont wear pajamas ylegm
87[00:52:17] <CaptainSpam> Well, then you can't sleep until Saturday.  The terms are pretty clear.
88[00:56:02] <Zeke229> https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10390034_644857588951876_3364660116414739637_n.jpg?oh=7865ed212a1dc6ab148779cf907519c1&oe=56476419
89[00:56:41] <ylegm-blah> nice
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91[00:59:21] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v zeke
92[00:59:37] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Sedorox
93[01:00:43] <LambMower_> Master_Gunner, Illfonic is laying people off now because the development on the FPS module is almost complete. Hyep!
94[01:00:55] <LambMower_> Laying off is probably the completely wrong thing though
95[01:01:09] <LambMower_> More like "People on contract have completed their contract"
96[01:03:09] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Juliamon
97[01:03:16] <Master_Gunner> normal ebb and flow of the game industry
98[01:03:28] <Master_Gunner> but good to know.
99[01:03:47] <LambMower_> Yeah, it basically gives us more and more proper confirmation that FPS is starting to get wrapped up
100[01:04:03] <LambMower_> Most of the work left on FPS is on Foundry 42 now
101[01:04:10] <LambMower_> Because animations and engine stuff is most of the work left
102[01:05:38] <LambMower_> But yeah, Illfonic have let 6 people go, 3 of which were working on the FPS module
103[01:05:50] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v tachyondecay
104[01:07:31] <Senstaku> Hmm.
105[01:13:58] <Master_Gunner> !tell ekim* Took my turn in Civ, sorry for the delay.
106[01:13:59] <UnsafeBot> Ok, I'll tell ekim* next time I see them speak.
107[01:14:20] <Durugai> Master_Gunner, you better be sorry :P
108[01:14:50] <Master_Gunner> eh, not that sorry
109[01:14:55] <Durugai> fair
110[01:17:02] <Kite> Turn 2 in civ is happening, progresssss :D
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113[01:24:33] <EldraziOutlaw> DoctorGyarados I saved sunbro :D
114[01:24:42] <DoctorGyarados> congrutalions
115[01:24:48] <DoctorGyarados> now kill him and get his talisman
116[01:24:57] <EldraziOutlaw> or
117[01:25:09] <EldraziOutlaw> and hear me out, I leave me since talismans are useless to me
118[01:25:15] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v tachyondecay_
119[01:26:11] <DoctorGyarados> I will pay you in thigh high stockings
120[01:26:24] <EldraziOutlaw> :O
121[01:26:26] <EldraziOutlaw> that is tempting
122[01:26:47] <betsy> uuuh
123[01:27:02] <betsy> the dns can't resolve twitch right now
124[01:27:04] <betsy> wtf
125[01:27:37] <EldraziOutlaw> it's on your end betsy
126[01:27:46] <betsy> I'm aware
127[01:27:52] <betsy> I'm just really confused
128[01:27:53] <EldraziOutlaw> try resetting router, that fixes a lot of dns issues for me
129[01:29:09] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v SinisterDuck
130[01:30:36] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v BrainStew
131[01:35:18] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v HPBraincase
132[01:39:39] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Busser780588
133[01:42:44] <HPBroadcast-Prep> .twitch HPBraincase
134[01:42:46] <PyMoronBot> 03HPBraincase "Bonus Braincase of the Mondays - Rockets Go to Space, right?"14, playing Rocket League03 (Live with 2 viewers) 14| https://twitch.tv/hpbraincase
135[01:43:13] <HPBroadcast> If anyone is bored
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137[01:50:10] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v KidSpanner
138[01:50:30] <KidSpanner> rawr
139[01:50:31] <RoBoBo> KidSpanner is NOT A DINOSAUR
140[01:56:47] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Canadork
141[02:00:05] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v betsy
142[02:04:46] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v rye_and_wheat
143[02:09:33] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Zeke229
144[02:09:39] <Zeke229> hello
145[02:15:02] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Moatman
146[02:20:37] <Roosevelt> meep
147[02:26:56] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Dan9299
148[02:28:35] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v sektor88
149[02:34:28] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LambMower__
150[02:34:40] <Cuttlefishman> Roosevelt, you want western comics?
151[02:34:54] <Roosevelt> like what?
152[02:35:09] <Roosevelt> I'm not really into that stuff, but I haven't researched it either
153[02:35:21] <Cuttlefishman> http://www.sssscomic.com/index.php
154[02:35:22] <PyMoronBot> Stand Still. Stay Silent - webcomic (at www.sssscomic.com)
155[02:35:25] <Cuttlefishman> is really pretty
156[02:35:54] <Roosevelt> oh webcomics
157[02:36:12] <Cuttlefishman> and full of worldbuilding
158[02:36:13] <Cuttlefishman> and snow
159[02:36:15] <Roosevelt> for pretty I go with Romantically Apocalyptic :P
160[02:36:21] <Roosevelt> http://romanticallyapocalyptic.com/
161[02:36:23] <PyMoronBot> Romantically Apocalyptic - 0 (at romanticallyapocalyptic.com)
162[02:36:26] <Cuttlefishman> but snow is expected because of it's nordic origins
163[02:37:15] <Cuttlefishman> read that one before
164[02:40:11] <Roosevelt> OMG
165[02:40:20] <Roosevelt> remember how I said my friend is fostering 4 kittens?
166[02:40:28] <Roosevelt> the cat has claimed one for her own https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11902287_10207564632902479_7518929424736006897_n.jpg?oh=9efbcab487340f997d7093b0c4f2e9ab&oe=5670A789
167[02:40:29] <Roosevelt> ;_;
168[02:44:00] <LuckieNewt> bleh
169[02:44:36] <ricin> https://youtu.be/kYDSqRzOVKE
170[02:44:37] <PyMoronBot> VR SHOOT OUT - Hover Junkers 14| 09:30 14| Node 14| http://www.hoverjunkers.com/ What game should we play next? Let us know! Don't forget to like/follow us on Facebook & Twitter! ...
171[02:45:23] <Cuttlefishman> Hmmm
172[02:45:28] <Cuttlefishman> reminds me of the old comic http://www.blastwave-comic.com/index.php
173[02:45:30] <PyMoronBot> Gone with the Blastwave - Because war can be boring too. (at www.blastwave-comic.com)
174[02:45:33] <LuckieNewt> daww kitteh surrogate
175[02:46:04] *LuckieNewt got through meeting with sore throat*
176[02:46:17] <Roosevelt> the little one was sick when I visited yesterday and was asleep the whole time
177[02:46:21] <Roosevelt> looks happy now
178[02:46:33] <LuckieNewt> aww
179[02:46:38] <Roosevelt> his name is LBC  = Little Boy Cat :P
180[02:47:38] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Wildy
181[02:49:52] <LuckieNewt> https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11144789_961006587297632_2492648456741536606_n.jpg?oh=1b099ddbf2c0381a69257abb4d50cc03&oe=5682D7FE
182[02:54:37] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Dicey
183[02:56:30] <KaniDroid> Hai
184[02:59:52] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v dinokittehfrog
185[03:00:44] <dinokittehfrog> meow
186[03:00:45] *RoBoBo points at dinokittehfrog, "NOT KITTEH"*
187[03:00:47] <dinokittehfrog> rawr
188[03:00:48] <RoBoBo> dinokittehfrog MIGHT BE A DINOSAUR
189[03:00:50] <dinokittehfrog> ribbit
190[03:00:51] <PyMoronBot> dinokittehfrog is DEFINITELY a frog.
191[03:00:54] <EldraziOutlaw> DoctorGyarados woo 2nd lord soul :D
192[03:01:37] <DoctorGyarados> Who's left? Nito and 4 Kings?
193[03:01:51] <EldraziOutlaw> yeah
194[03:02:13] <DoctorGyarados> Did you get Moonlight from Seath?
195[03:02:21] <EldraziOutlaw> probably leave 4kings to last, so I can do part of the DLC first and get the extra scene with Sif
196[03:02:23] <EldraziOutlaw> na
197[03:02:32] <DoctorGyarados> aw
198[03:02:39] <DoctorGyarados> Apparently it shoots lasers or something
199[03:02:41] <DoctorGyarados> scales off int?
200[03:02:49] <EldraziOutlaw> it's S scaling with Int yeah
201[03:03:40] <EldraziOutlaw> it's also a pain in the ass cause you need to cut his tail
202[03:03:51] <Kite> If you want a webcomic that's pretty, has great worldbuilding, and great character interaction, go with http://www.skindeepcomic.com/
203[03:03:52] <PyMoronBot> Skin Deep (at www.skindeepcomic.com)
204[03:04:01] <Kite> Oh, I didnt scroll down
205[03:04:03] <Kite> oops
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208[03:16:08] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v CaptainSpam
209[03:17:58] *Heinz_Doofenshertz glares at nickserv*
210[03:19:41] <KidSpanner> !tell Chuzzle These are quite ginger, thanks for the recommendation
211[03:19:43] <UnsafeBot> Ok, I'll tell Chuzzle next time I see them speak.
212[03:19:59] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> ginger snaps?
213[03:20:09] <KidSpanner> Gin-Gins
214[03:20:23] <KidSpanner> Ginger candy. I got the coffee ones.
215[03:20:26] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> ahh
216[03:25:15] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LambMower_
217[03:25:29] <dinokittehfrog> coffe and ginger?
218[03:35:09] *CaffeinatedLemur wanders in*
219[03:37:02] <KaniDroid> Boop
220[03:37:03] <PyMoronBot> Boop! http://i.imgur.com/yexMjOl.gif
221[03:38:12] <CaptainSpam> Hey, Lemur.
222[03:38:32] <dialmformara> CaffeinatedLemur: Canageek here. Are you streaming tonight?
223[03:39:20] <CaffeinatedLemur> probably not, too darn tired, feeling better though
224[03:39:46] <dialmformara> CaffeinatedLemur: Canageek: Awwwww. Glad you are feeling better though. Mara says sleep well.
225[03:39:59] <dialmformara> CaffeinatedLemur: Canageek: Feels like I've not had time to watch your stream in a while.
226[03:42:50] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Dumorimasoddaa
227[03:43:18] <CaffeinatedLemur> it happens
228[03:43:31] <CaffeinatedLemur> sorry last few weeks have been odd for me so not streaming as much as I would like
229[03:43:51] *Heinz_Doofenshertz hands more caffine to lemur*
230[03:45:09] <EldraziOutlaw> DoctorGyarados: So todoy I killed O&S, Seath, Capra Demon, Gaping Dragon, Ceasless Discharge, Demon Firesage, Centipede Demon, and Stray Demon  :D
231[03:45:49] <DoctorGyarados> A lot further than Cait and I got the other day
232[03:46:09] <DoctorGyarados> we played for like 6 hours and got to just the beginning of Sen's
233[03:48:24] <EldraziOutlaw> I'm guessing you had to do a lot of things twice though, to get you both through it
234[03:49:07] <DoctorGyarados> or more than twice :I
235[03:49:12] <EldraziOutlaw> also yeah, i've gotten like 24hours into this play through, since I started it
236[03:49:18] <EldraziOutlaw> which was what like yesterday?
237[03:49:26] <DoctorGyarados> Not sure what our total time is
238[03:49:54] <EldraziOutlaw> well if I am in summon range and you guys need/want a third let me know :)
239[03:50:30] <DoctorGyarados> If you've already beaten two of the four lords, you're probably ~70ish right now
240[03:50:56] <EldraziOutlaw> 68
241[03:51:39] <DoctorGyarados> within 2 levels is a pretty great guess, considering I've only ever beaten the game twice
242[03:51:41] <EldraziOutlaw> my planned build finished at 51, and I just started dumping into vit finally
243[03:52:09] <EldraziOutlaw> let me tell you, doing O&S with 8 vit was... interesting
244[03:52:17] *LuckieNewt flops *
245[03:52:49] <DoctorGyarados> I believe the idea is "Kill the fast one so you don't have to worry about being hit" with 8 VIT
246[03:53:51] <EldraziOutlaw> yeah
247[03:54:05] <EldraziOutlaw> I was trying to kill the fat one first... it didn't work :P
248[03:54:23] <EldraziOutlaw> what level are you DoctorGyarados? I think you said 53?
249[03:54:34] <DoctorGyarados> Sounds about right?
250[03:55:23] <EldraziOutlaw> then I am just in summon range :P
251[03:55:49] <DoctorGyarados> My character's levels are [12:17:43]	<+DoctorGyarados>	52, 88, 13, 87
252[03:56:02] <DoctorGyarados> characters'*
253[03:56:35] <dialmformara> CaffeinatedLemur: part of it is also Canageek and I go out for dinner some sundays
254[03:57:13] <EldraziOutlaw> 52 I think I am at your max range
255[03:57:35] <DoctorGyarados> I think 88 just started NG+, and 87 is doing Manus
256[03:57:58] <DoctorGyarados> 52 is coop with Cait, and 13 is coop with a local friend
257[03:59:40] <EldraziOutlaw> ah nice
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260[04:06:25] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Canadork
261[04:12:46] <LuckieNewt> oh yay here comes the coughing
262[04:26:47] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v chrono2x_alt
263[04:27:17] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Zeke229
264[04:27:20] <Zeke229> http://www.polygon.com/2015/4/22/8470473/dungeons-dragons-virtual-tabletop-fantasy-grounds
265[04:27:21] <PyMoronBot> D&D now on Steam, complete with dice and a Dungeon Master | Polygon (at www.polygon.com)
266[04:30:16] <HubbeWork> bleep bloop
267[04:30:17] <PyMoronBot> HubbeWork is not the droid you are looking for.
268[04:30:33] <HubbeWork> yes i am clearly a regular meathuman
269[04:30:58] <EldraziOutlaw> I thought you were a fox?
270[04:32:14] <HubbeWork> yes i am clearly not a sentient ai construct born from the sheer weirdness of chat
271[04:32:27] <HubbeWork> :P
272[04:34:21] *LuckieNewt might be a fox*
273[04:34:42] <LuckieNewt> o.o
274[04:34:44] <EldraziOutlaw> :O
275[04:34:48] *EldraziOutlaw pets LuckieNewt*
276[04:36:14] *LuckieNewt snuggles Outlaw*
277[04:36:36] *HubbeWork noses at LuckieNewt*
278[04:37:45] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v chrono2x
279[04:44:55] *LuckieNewt snuggles HubbeWork too*
280[04:45:02] <HubbeWork> so what's hippening and hoppening in chat this fine morning
281[04:45:11] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> I'm at work again
282[04:45:36] *LuckieNewt watches Hotel Transylvania*
283[04:45:44] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> people are going insane because Illfonic, one of the outsource companies working on the FPS for star citizen laid off 6 people
284[04:47:24] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> SC is now 12.5m from 100m dollars in funding and 37k citizens from 1m backers
285[04:47:42] <chrono2x> !hangout
286[04:48:30] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> if they each back for $337.84 SC will cross both lines at the same time
287[04:50:55] <HubbeWork> I have a feeling that won't happen though
288[04:51:10] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> probably not, my sample average is 178
289[04:52:29] <HubbeWork> People who've already backed tend to sometimes buy new things though
290[04:52:35] <HubbeWork> So who knows?
291[04:52:36] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> true
292[04:52:44] <HubbeWork> Also, you've gathered data on this?
293[04:52:45] <HubbeWork> Rad
294[04:53:09] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> well my sample size is only for the UOLTT org, and is about 1040ish members
295[04:53:18] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> that have reported ships data
296[04:53:26] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> out of 2500 people
297[04:54:15] <HubbeWork> I wonder if SC would be willing to part with some data in the future
298[04:54:34] <HubbeWork> Would be really interesting to see how backer averages actually pan out
299[04:54:39] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> http://www.insanemaths.com/statlist.cfm
300[04:54:42] <PyMoronBot> Insane Maths Department (at www.insanemaths.com)
301[04:54:48] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> 1027 sorry
302[04:56:20] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> getting close to 200k in reported and already over 250k in projected if we say that anyone who hasn't reported has a aurora base
303[05:03:21] <EldraziOutlaw> people going insane about SC things... shocking
304[05:03:52] <EldraziOutlaw> In other news, water is still wet
305[05:04:28] *LuckieNewt wets her whistle*
306[05:04:40] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> really, I thought water was dry
307[05:06:10] <Heinz_Doofenshertz> maybe I'm mixing that up with vermuth
308[05:09:37] <HubbeWork> I honestly do not understand why so many people are going apeshit over SC
309[05:10:00] <HubbeWork> Is it really just because it's the first enormously successful kickstarted project?
310[05:12:11] <EldraziOutlaw> HubbeWork that is one of the reasons, another one is because the dev process is being shown so openly, people are getting to see that it isn't all smiles and smooth sailing, causing them to freak out at every little problem that pops up
311[05:15:33] <EldraziOutlaw> it's almost like the vast majority of people have zero idea what it takes to make something of that scale
312[05:17:20] <HubbeWork> I feel like everyone should try making a game at some point
313[05:17:36] <ElementalAlchemist> meow
314[05:17:37] *RoBoBo points at ElementalAlchemist, "KITTEH"*
315[05:17:39] <ElementalAlchemist> rawr
316[05:17:41] <RoBoBo> ElementalAlchemist is NOT A DINOSAUR
317[05:17:42] <HubbeWork> Just to see how tricky a process it actually is
318[05:18:14] *HubbeWork glances at his and Mara's abandoned visual novel game for android that he still has the basic structure lined out for somewhere in a folder*
319[05:18:54] <HubbeWork> Protip, if neither you nor the person you're making your story-driven game with are writers, maybe don't make a story-driven game
320[05:19:39] <EldraziOutlaw> HubbeWork: god no, you are assuming they would then sympathise with the devs? All that would happen is the bitching would start with "Well when I made a game..."
321[05:20:14] <HubbeWork> heh
322[05:20:17] <HubbeWork> True enough
323[05:20:46] <LuckieNewt> well when I made a game....it's not finished prototype yet
324[05:20:58] <LuckieNewt> :P
325[05:21:12] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LambMower__
326[05:22:00] <LuckieNewt> food on the table and rent blah blah I'm not the coder and this week I'm the only artist...
327[05:23:46] <HubbeWork> Well when I made a game, I was the coder and we didn't really have a writer... or an artist...
328[05:23:53] <HubbeWork> Okay we basically had nothing
329[05:24:08] <HubbeWork> We could have planned that thing a bit better :P
330[05:24:12] <Sani> CHAT I NEED AN ADULT
331[05:24:21] <HubbeWork> WE ARE ADULTS
332[05:24:22] *ElementalAlchemist is an adult*
333[05:24:25] <Noy2222> No adults here
334[05:24:34] <CaptainSpam> I'm not a different adult.
335[05:24:36] *HubbeWork touches Sani's adult butt*
336[05:24:43] <Sani> I am considering giving $50 to the conman thing to get a firefly photobook
337[05:25:31] <Sani> if I pledge the $50  I get a book with nathan fillion's provate photos from firefly
338[05:25:39] <Sani> *private
339[05:26:06] <henine> conman?
340[05:26:20] <ElementalAlchemist> Is this a "bid responsibly and get your tax receipts" type deal?
341[05:28:40] <Sani> no
342[05:28:58] <Sani> it is just $50 and I get the thing as a indiegogo pldege
343[05:29:02] <Sani> *pledge
344[05:29:49] <Sani> so conman is a series that nathan fillion and alan tudyk crowd funded through indie gogo
345[05:30:57] <henine> ohok. i thought you wanted to give money to an actual conman
346[05:34:34] <Sani> nonono I just need to not spend $50 on an awesome thing
347[05:36:04] <henine> IF YOU SPEND THOSE $50 ON AN AWESOME THING I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND STARE AT YOU DISAPPROVINGLY. FOR HOURS. there. that helped?
348[05:36:06] <ElementalAlchemist> So it is a "bid responsibly and get your tax receipts" sort of thing
349[05:36:27] <ElementalAlchemist> Where you see an awesome thing and must give your money to get it, except that you can't because then you can't afford to be alive
350[05:36:37] <ElementalAlchemist> DON'T DO IT WE WANT YOU TO LIVE
351[05:37:19] <HubbeWork> yes pls don't become broke
352[05:38:12] <ElementalAlchemist> (This one in particular is more "bid responsibly" than "get your tax receipts")
353[05:42:52] <Hiramas> my showerhead just broke -.-
354[05:43:39] <Hiramas> now I have to drive to the hardware store
355[05:44:25] *Sani holds Hubbe*
356[05:44:30] <henine> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q16yI2d9sNE
357[05:44:31] <PyMoronBot> Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store - Music Video 14| 04:45 14| 15tomjordan123456789 14| Weird Al Yankovic - Hardware Store - Music Video XD hahaha
358[05:44:43] *HubbeWork hugs Sani*
359[05:45:16] <Sani> Oh I will live I will just become more in debt because AMERICA
360[05:45:51] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v BrainStew
361[05:46:10] <henine> as is tradition!
362[05:46:11] <PyMoronBot> As is tradition.
363[05:47:14] <ElementalAlchemist> But
364[05:47:22] <ElementalAlchemist> The whole "American dream" thing Republicans keep talking about!
365[05:48:19] <HubbeWork> I believe a wise man once said
366[05:48:36] <HubbeWork> "It's called the American Dream... because you have to be asleep to believe it."
367[05:50:23] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LambMower_
368[05:51:05] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Canageek
369[05:51:06] *LuckieNewt coughs and sighs*
370[06:00:18] <LuckieNewt> Alex_LRR draw stream soon
371[06:00:29] <LuckieNewt> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMq1-cZUEAAWABS.jpg:large
372[06:01:47] <LuckieNewt> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMq1-biVAAAgvJ1.jpg:large
373[06:02:11] <LuckieNewt> *cycles two images over and over quickly*
374[06:02:44] <SinisterDuck> wired alex makes for good streaming
375[06:03:13] <LuckieNewt> yes
376[06:03:38] <LuckieNewt> jjj-java it in
377[06:06:24] <LuckieNewt> ...
378[06:07:04] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Hiramas|mobile
379[06:07:58] <rootpotato> Ah man. I bored. But I don't.  Wanna go to sleep cause alex might stream.
380[06:08:31] *LuckieNewt draws on rootpotato's board*
381[06:08:44] <rootpotato> D:
382[06:08:54] <LuckieNewt> dickbutt!
383[06:09:01] <rootpotato> I cam spell
384[06:09:11] <rootpotato> Leaf me alone
385[06:09:25] *LuckieNewt wasn't refering to your spelling*
386[06:09:40] <rootpotato> I was referring to your butt
387[06:09:47] <rootpotato> :P
388[06:10:06] <LuckieNewt> o.o
389[06:10:17] <LuckieNewt> you know you need a permit for that
390[06:10:34] <rootpotato> YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!
391[06:10:47] <rootpotato> #FuckThePolice
392[06:11:13] *LuckieNewt gags rootpotato and ties him to the police box*
393[06:11:34] <rootpotato> Gees, not I'm public chat
394[06:11:41] <rootpotato> In*
395[06:11:46] <LuckieNewt> in*
396[06:11:54] <rootpotato> Fuck you
397[06:11:58] <rootpotato> :P
398[06:12:02] <LuckieNewt> XD
399[06:12:52] <HubbeWork> nownow, children
400[06:13:02] <rootpotato> Ugggggh I'm so bored. Stream already ALEX!
401[06:13:52] *EldraziOutlaw boops LuckieNewt*
402[06:13:53] <PyMoronBot> Boop! http://i.imgur.com/RKzPhan.gif
403[06:14:25] <LuckieNewt> aww I <3 that boop
404[06:14:37] *LuckieNewt boops Outlaw back*
405[06:15:07] *LuckieNewt takes more tylenol for her throat*
406[06:15:58] <LuckieNewt> http://www.twitch.tv/voxlunch
407[06:15:59] <PyMoronBot> 05Voxlunch "Voxlunch || The devil coffee made me do it"14, playing Creative04 [Mature]05 (Offline)
408[06:16:50] <KidSpanner> !tell Didero Other obvious things about cursed weapons: You should not eat them
409[06:16:54] <UnsafeBot> Ok, I'll tell Didero next time I see them speak.
410[06:17:59] *EldraziOutlaw rubs his head against LuckieNewt*
411[06:19:02] <LuckieNewt> <3
412[06:19:07] <Sani> I succeeded at adult
413[06:19:24] <Sani> I kind of want to go to gen con next year
414[06:19:56] <HubbeWork> yay adultness
415[06:21:17] <EldraziOutlaw> <3
416[06:22:51] *LuckieNewt unadulteratedly adults*
417[06:23:42] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Dragoon
418[06:24:25] *EldraziOutlaw does adult things with LuckieNewt*
419[06:24:28] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v henine
420[06:24:52] <LuckieNewt> hehe
421[06:32:20] <Sani> I just remembered about shut up & sit down
422[06:32:40] *HubbeWork shuts down and sits up*
423[06:32:45] <HubbeWork> ...wait
424[06:34:12] *EldraziOutlaw touches HubbeWork's power button*
425[06:38:50] *HubbeWork powers back up*
426[06:44:00] <KidSpanner> I don't understand how Rick & Morty is a real show
427[06:44:21] <KidSpanner> It's so ridiculous that this can exist
428[06:45:43] <Ranneko> It doesn't, it is in fact a mass hallucination.
429[06:46:03] <KidSpanner> I can live with that, as long as it continues to happen
430[06:47:42] <Hiramas|mobile> Quack
431[06:47:43] <PyMoronBot> Hiramas|mobile /might/ be a duck.
432[06:49:00] <Hiramas|mobile> Might might might
433[06:49:05] <KidSpanner> blub
434[06:49:06] <PyMoronBot> KidSpanner /might/ be a deep one.
435[06:49:13] <KidSpanner> woof
436[06:49:14] <PyMoronBot> KidSpanner is not a puppeh.
437[06:49:20] <KidSpanner> awooo
438[06:49:21] <PyMoronBot> KidSpanner is DEFINITELY a wolf.
439[06:49:35] <Hiramas|mobile> Ah, a clear answer for once
440[06:49:39] <Ranneko> meow
441[06:49:40] *RoBoBo points at Ranneko, "MEHBEH KITTEH"*
442[06:49:42] <Hiramas|mobile> Hoot
443[06:49:43] <PyMoronBot> Hiramas|mobile is not a owl.
444[06:49:45] <KidSpanner> 2
445[06:49:50] <KidSpanner> 3 now.
446[06:50:22] <Hiramas|mobile> He is wrong, though, I feel very owl today
447[06:50:24] <Ranneko> Zugzug
448[06:51:37] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Carl_Miller
449[06:51:42] <Hiramas|mobile> Doctor's waiting rooms must be the most boring place ever
450[06:51:54] <KidSpanner> DMV
451[06:52:32] <Hiramas|mobile> There can be interesting people at the dmv, here it's just old people
452[06:52:58] <HubbeWork> I have been to what would be the DMV exactly three times in my life
453[06:53:39] <Hiramas|mobile> Since that is all the same agency where I live, I have been there more often
454[06:54:21] <HubbeWork> 1) getting my moped license, 2) trying to get my drivers license, 3) actually succeeding at getting my drivers license
455[06:54:25] <Hiramas|mobile> The offices for dmv stuff and IDs for example are just one door or so apart
456[06:55:02] <HubbeWork> IDs are handled by the police here
457[06:55:13] <HubbeWork> The DMV literally only does drivers license things
458[06:55:17] <Gilles> here, they're not even one door apart
459[06:55:22] <Gilles> they are the same people
460[06:56:08] <Gilles> of course, they don't actually issue the cards on site.. they only take your photo and info there
461[06:56:19] <Gilles> then they mail us the cards
462[06:56:36] <HubbeWork> Everything's handled by different people here
463[06:56:57] <HubbeWork> You have to go to an actual photo place to take your photo, then go to the police and fill about a few forms
464[06:57:09] <HubbeWork> And then it gets mailed not to you, but to the nearest "secure" location
465[06:57:28] <HubbeWork> Where you have to go with your old ID (which hopefully is still valid) to receive your new ID
466[06:57:39] <HubbeWork> And god help you if your ID is out of date
467[06:58:01] <Gilles> what if it's your first ID card?
468[06:58:02] <HubbeWork> Renewing an expired ID is a shitton of paperwork for some retarded reason
469[06:58:13] <Hiramas|mobile> Gilles they are just different departments of the same civil services agency. But yeah, the actual cards are coming from the federal printery
470[06:58:18] <HubbeWork> Then have fun bringing your parents, Gilles
471[06:58:57] <HubbeWork> Unless they've changed it in the past year, you need a valid ID in order to get a new ID.
472[06:59:23] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Pienne
473[06:59:36] <Hiramas|mobile> First ID is with 16, before that you have a children's version. Renewing it is easy, just go to the civil services with your old one
474[06:59:38] <Gilles> here in Canada, the only ID done at federal level is passports and birth certificates
475[06:59:47] <Gilles> all other ID is done by the province
476[07:00:08] <Gilles> how the provincial ID works varies by province
477[07:00:32] <HubbeWork> IDs are a bit weird in the EU
478[07:00:49] <Gilles> here in BC, they are in the process of merging driver and health card IDs into one card
479[07:01:17] <Hiramas|mobile> Uh, that seems practical and stupid
480[07:01:21] <HubbeWork> A drivers license is a valid ID, but you can't leave the EU without a passport... and for some, but not all, countries inside the EU you also need a passport to travel between them
481[07:01:30] <Hiramas|mobile> For data security reasons
482[07:01:40] <Gilles> many people agree
483[07:01:51] <Gilles> in some provinces, it's actually illegal to use a health card as ID
484[07:01:56] <Gilles> not here
485[07:02:05] <Hiramas|mobile> Hubby you don't need a passport between the Schengen states
486[07:02:12] <HubbeWork> Health cards here are not IDs
487[07:02:22] <HubbeWork> Hiramas I know, hence the "some but not all" bit
488[07:02:37] <Gilles> here, they contain all your info and a photo
489[07:02:40] <HubbeWork> It's just a bit more confusing than it honestly has any right to be
490[07:02:41] <henine> Hiramas|mobile, also some nonschengen states
491[07:02:48] <Hiramas|mobile> I honestly don't know where you would need a passport...
492[07:02:58] <HubbeWork> My health cards lists my name and SSN.
493[07:03:02] <HubbeWork> Nothing more
494[07:03:09] <HubbeWork> I believe it also has my signature on the back
495[07:03:10] <Gilles> we require a passport to travel anywhere outside the country
496[07:03:24] <HubbeWork> Could check, I'm pretty sure it's in my wallet
497[07:03:38] <Gilles> because they merged it all, it's the only ID I have here
498[07:03:59] <Gilles> until 9/11, Canadians could go to the US without a passport
499[07:04:08] <Gilles> now we require one
500[07:04:25] <HubbeWork> Ah, I actually have THREE different health cards
501[07:04:45] <HubbeWork> One that's only for Finland, one that's for the entire EU, and one that's a worldwide travellers insurance card
502[07:04:52] <Gilles> we were also allowed to go to Mexico without one
503[07:04:59] <HubbeWork> None of them have photos or are valid IDs of any sort
504[07:05:31] <HubbeWork> They just list my full name, SSN, and a numerical identifier for the health system they're for
505[07:06:05] <HubbeWork> The EU and worldwide cards also list an adress to which my medical bills are to be sent if I'm hospitalized when outside of Finland
506[07:06:37] <HubbeWork> Being entitled to free emergency care basically anywhere in the world is nice :)
507[07:06:44] <HubbeWork> Well
508[07:06:46] <HubbeWork> "free"
509[07:06:50] <Gilles> my health card looks like this http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/vital-statistics/government-id/bc-services-card/see-the-card/photo-bc-services-card
510[07:06:53] <PyMoronBot> Photo BC Services Card - Province of British Columbia (at www2.gov.bc.ca)
511[07:06:58] <HubbeWork> It's paid for by my taxes so technically not free
512[07:07:08] <Gilles> if I had a driver's license, it would look like this http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/vital-statistics/government-id/bc-services-card/see-the-card/bc-driver-s-licence-services-card
513[07:07:09] <PyMoronBot> BC Driver's Licence & Services Card - Province of British Columbia (at www2.gov.bc.ca)
514[07:07:42] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Didero
515[07:07:45] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v InquisitorJL
516[07:08:18] <Didero> Mornin'
517[07:08:20] <UnsafeBot> Didero: In retrospect, I should have realised you can't throw cursed weapons < From KidSpanner on Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:23:01 UTC (10 hours 45 minutes ago)
518[07:08:21] <UnsafeBot> Didero: Other obvious things about cursed weapons: You should not eat them < From KidSpanner on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 06:16:54 UTC (51 minutes ago)
519[07:08:27] <HubbeWork> The EU health insurance card looks like this https://www.e111.org.uk/images/european-health-insurance-card.jpg
520[07:08:45] <Hiramas|mobile> My tablet will be out of power soon
521[07:08:47] <Didero> KidSpanner: Learning is fun! (For certain definitions of 'fun')
522[07:09:52] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v henine_
523[07:10:21] <Gilles> apparently in most of Canada (excluding Quebec, of course), the provincial health ministries will bill each other so you're effectively covered
524[07:10:54] <Gilles> outside of Canada, you have to pay up front and then make a claim, and they'll only pay up to what they'd cover in province
525[07:11:05] <Gilles> (I just looked that up)
526[07:11:48] <Ranneko> Yes, the terror of a cursed shuriken.
527[07:11:50] <KidSpanner> Didero: I took so much damage off eating that sledgehammer
528[07:12:11] <Didero> So you get damage instead of the benefits, or on top of them?
529[07:12:34] <KidSpanner>  do not remember, all I remember is I was suddenly at 1HP
530[07:12:40] <Didero> Also, the few times I've seen a cursed weapon, I've just not touched them
531[07:14:47] <KidSpanner> Didero: Well cursed weapons are more advanced, you just can't switch them out except for other cursed weapons unless they're cleansed
532[07:15:47] <KidSpanner> I've been trying Robot with Cursed Crown today
533[07:15:50] <Ranneko> I've never really thought about what not being able to unequip a cursed item really means.
534[07:15:51] <Didero> How do you cleanse them?
535[07:15:53] <KidSpanner> You et some solid stuff
536[07:16:28] <Didero> Yeah, the benefit of cursed weapons is that they drop before they 'should', but then you're stuck with 'em
537[07:16:30] <Ranneko> I mean in games where layering actually takes place, cursed gauntlets can prevent you from removing your armour and the like.
538[07:16:35] <KidSpanner> Enter Crown Vault and touch pedestal, Take Last Wish, or enter the 7-3 level ending portal
539[07:17:08] <KidSpanner> "Stuck"
540[07:17:18] <Ranneko> But can I really never let go of a cursed dagger? If I had a pair of them does that mean I have to eat with them like bizarre chopsticks?
541[07:17:21] <KidSpanner> The key is not to grab weapons that are actually kinda shit
542[07:17:38] <KidSpanner> Like the disc gun or whatever
543[07:17:53] <HubbeWork> So would you say
544[07:17:55] <HubbeWork> The key is
545[07:17:58] <HubbeWork> To get good?
546[07:18:08] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Hira
547[07:18:17] <KidSpanner> Get experienced
548[07:18:25] <KidSpanner> Get knowledgable
549[07:18:26] <Didero> The disc gun is hilarious though :P
550[07:18:28] <Ranneko> Make mistakes and then learn from them
551[07:18:35] <Ranneko> Which game is this by the way?
552[07:19:20] <Didero> .steam nuclear throne
553[07:19:22] <PyMoronBot> Nuclear Throne14 by Vlambeer 14| Genres: Action, Indie, RPG, Early Access 14| Release Date: Oct 11, 2013 14| $12.99/£9.99/%u20AC12.99 14| Nuclear Throne is Vlambeers latest action roguelike-like about mutants fighting their way through a post-apocalyptic world. The radioactive waste in ... 14|
554[07:19:23] <PyMoronBot> http://store.steampowered.com/app/242680
555[07:19:33] <HubbeWork> I believe "Make mistakes and then learn from them" is just life
556[07:19:37] <Ranneko> Ah, always been meaning to try them.
557[07:19:46] <Noy2222> WOOHOO!
558[07:19:49] <HubbeWork> That is how you're supposed to do life, I think
559[07:19:50] <Noy2222> Junk stock is in profit!
560[07:19:55] <KidSpanner> It is a damn good game that just got a big updte
561[07:20:03] <Ranneko> It also has a daily challenge mode
562[07:20:07] <KidSpanner> Yup
563[07:20:12] <Ranneko> And I used to stream games daily challenges
564[07:20:16] <KidSpanner> I remember when that update happened, was great
565[07:20:21] <Didero> I've played it for 84 hours already, and I don't usually stick with games
566[07:20:50] <KidSpanner> They've recently made chcaracter unlocks more difficult, and introduced hard mode
567[07:21:03] <Didero> Yeah, according to Steam, it's my second-most-played game, after TF2
568[07:21:13] <Didero> Also, great pro: Samurai Chicken
569[07:21:15] <HubbeWork> I don't really go for rougelikes :/
570[07:21:25] <Hira> Are you still talking about live?
571[07:21:26] <Didero> It's a roguelike-like though :P
572[07:21:27] <HubbeWork> Mostly because I am bad at videogames
573[07:21:43] *Noy2222 is in $226 profit for now*
574[07:21:45] <HubbeWork> Well no
575[07:21:49] <KidSpanner> Didero: Wait until they take away that unlock all button and you have to earn to shooot guns
576[07:21:50] <Hira> Life
577[07:21:52] <HubbeWork> Mostly because I am bad at actually doing new things
578[07:22:03] <HubbeWork> As much as I sometimes really want to
579[07:22:06] <KidSpanner> Though it seems Chicken's throw is way better now that it scales
580[07:22:07] <Didero> They'll have to add persistent saving before that though, so it shouldn't be too bad
581[07:22:25] <Hira> I tried to mod life, didn't work.
582[07:22:30] <KidSpanner> At level 7 she can kill the Frozen City boss in 3 throws
583[07:22:32] <Didero> Noy2222: I've been thinking about looking at and possibly investing in stocks too, but it seems a bit daunting
584[07:22:47] <Noy2222> Don't do it. Hell of a drug
585[07:22:50] <Noy2222> WOOO! MONEY!
586[07:22:55] <Hira> the money cheat has also been patched out, except for premium gamers
587[07:23:00] <Didero> Chicken needs an upgrade that makes her thrown weapon boomerang back :P
588[07:23:15] <Didero> Seems more useful than piercing throws
589[07:23:17] <Noy2222> $272
590[07:23:30] <Noy2222> I made $46 in 90 seconds
591[07:24:01] <KidSpanner> Didero: You know about Ultra Mutations?
592[07:24:08] <Didero> I've heard about them
593[07:24:11] <Didero> Never had one though
594[07:24:24] <KidSpanner> It's the final mutation, you get your choice of 2
595[07:24:28] <Noy2222> *9 months
596[07:24:33] <KidSpanner> One of Chicken's does that.
597[07:24:57] <Noy2222> $358
598[07:25:06] <Didero> woo, boomerang sword
599[07:25:31] <Didero> Noy2222: There's sites where you can invest fake money, as a sort of practice, right? Maybe I should try that
600[07:25:47] <Didero> Noy2222: Also, did you just decide to dive in, or did you read up on it first?
601[07:25:58] <Didero> KidSpanner: I don't think I've ever gotten far enough to max out my mutations
602[07:26:16] <Noy2222> I bought safe stocks about 10 years ago
603[07:26:18] <KidSpanner> Practice makes something
604[07:26:36] <Noy2222> Made money, bought some more long term stocks
605[07:26:49] <Noy2222> Then made stupid investments that haunt me to this day
606[07:27:08] <Noy2222> Then recently made a few smart investments that got me a little bit of extra money
607[07:27:34] <Noy2222> But step 1 would be to have a huge amount of money to invest, or else you're dealing with peanuts.
608[07:27:51] <Didero> So you're just sort of winging it? Or do you read up a lot on everything you invest in?
609[07:27:59] <Noy2222> Totally winging it
610[07:28:04] <Didero> What would a 'huge amount' be in this case?
611[07:28:12] <Didero> Hundreds? Thousands?
612[07:28:15] <Didero> MILLIONS?
613[07:28:17] <Noy2222> "Oh, Netflix is in the news. That would be a good investment *buys*"
614[07:28:25] <Noy2222> I have about $25000
615[07:28:44] <Didero> I hope that wasn't too personal a question, you're not supposed to ask people about their finances, right? >_>
616[07:29:05] <Didero> Also, hmm, my savings aren't quite there yet, and these driving lessons aren't helping with that either
617[07:29:08] <Noy2222> Less actually, considering how much losses I have tied down
618[07:29:32] <Noy2222> At any rate, if the stock's not gonna fall soon, that's my trip paid off.
619[07:30:40] <Noy2222> It's a game of chicken, now
620[07:30:55] <Noy2222> Stock's been booming for a couple of days, now I gotta figure out when to sell.
621[07:31:02] <Noy2222> After waiting for 9 months.
622[07:31:10] <Didero> I always overthink everything way too much to be able to wing anything, especially something involving that much money :P
623[07:31:27] <Didero> Don't get greedy, you might lose it all
624[07:31:44] <Didero> The only experience I have with investments is the stock market in Neopets :P
625[07:31:54] <Noy2222> I'll take Box #2!
626[07:32:08] <Didero> Which is inaccurate, surprisingly
627[07:32:35] <Didero> Who'd have thought a game aimed at kids does not simulate an entire economy and finance sector accurately?
628[07:37:15] <HubbeWork> I think EVE Online has a stock market type thing
629[07:38:16] <Didero> yeah but that would require playing EVE Online :P
630[07:38:28] <henine_> eve has more of a goods market
631[07:38:30] *EldraziOutlaw EVEs Didero*
632[07:38:43] <Didero> I don't think that means anything
633[07:38:47] <Didero> But I appreciate the effort?
634[07:40:38] <ekimekim> morning
635[07:40:40] <UnsafeBot> ekimekim: Took my turn in Civ, sorry for the delay. < From Master_Gunner on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:13:59 UTC (6 hours 26 minutes ago)
636[07:41:27] <ekimekim> woo turn 2
637[07:41:40] <Didero> I didn't get a Steam notification...
638[07:41:45] *henine_ moves his warriors 1 hex.*
639[07:41:51] <ekimekim> hmm. did you enable it?
640[07:41:56] <Didero> I think so
641[07:42:01] <HubbeWork> I didn't check this morning
642[07:42:24] <ekimekim> no emails sent, darn
643[07:42:25] <HubbeWork> But I didn't get an email, though I'm guessing you haven't set that up yet
644[07:42:29] <ekimekim> i set it up
645[07:42:32] <ekimekim> but no worky
646[07:42:37] <HubbeWork> hrm
647[07:42:41] <EldraziOutlaw> Didero it means, EVE is fun! :(
648[07:42:42] <ekimekim> fuckin email
649[07:43:11] <Didero> EldraziOutlaw: I'll take your word for that. I've played it a bit, ages ago, but it didn't really stick
650[07:43:15] <HubbeWork> What settings are you using, ekimekim?
651[07:43:30] <KidSpanner> Alright, sleep
652[07:43:35] <Didero> Night, Kid
653[07:43:37] <KidSpanner> G'night chat
654[07:43:51] *KidSpanner tosses Didero a healthkit and some ammo*
655[07:44:04] <Didero> I don't need ammo, I've got a SWORD
656[07:44:38] <ekimekim> email address: <my shitty backup email>@gmail.com  email server: smtp.gmail.com  use tls: true  port: 587  username: same as email address  password: obvious
657[07:45:21] <HubbeWork> hrm
658[07:45:24] <HubbeWork> That should be correct
659[07:45:41] <ekimekim> which is exactly the same config as ekimbot's smtp
660[07:45:44] <ekimekim> which works
661[07:45:51] <HubbeWork> unless it requires you to not have the @gmail.com part in the username section for some dumbs
662[07:46:04] <ekimekim> hmm. worth trying?
663[07:46:43] <Hira> The doctors office is full of homeopathic crap
664[07:46:50] <LambMower_> Run
665[07:46:53] <LambMower_> Run far away
666[07:46:58] <LambMower_> This is not the doctor you're looking for
667[07:47:26] <Hira> She has been reliable so far and, sadly, you can find this nearly anywhere these days
668[07:47:49] <LambMower_> I'm pretty sure it's illegal for doctors to try to sell homeopathic stuff here
669[07:47:58] <ekimekim> huh...the password field had the wrong number of characters (it's ****'d out)
670[07:48:10] <ekimekim> possible i mistyped?
671[07:48:19] <HubbeWork> Maybe
672[07:48:33] <HubbeWork> Or maybe it obscures password length for some raisin?
673[07:48:38] <henine_> probably defaults to 'password' for display
674[07:48:39] <ekimekim> also possible
675[07:48:42] <HubbeWork> Can't hurt to try though
676[07:50:05] <henine_> what the shit HTC?!
677[07:50:33] <henine_> they won't be releasing an update for M8 until later this year
678[07:50:48] <ekimekim> they wat m8
679[07:51:04] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Ranneko
680[07:52:05] <henine> they want to update directly to android m, but with 3 major security flaws going around: what the actual shit HTC?!
681[07:53:11] <HubbeWork> murgh
682[07:53:16] <HubbeWork> That's pretty dumbs of them
683[07:53:32] <HubbeWork> Which reminds me I haven't upgraded my nexus 9 yet I should get on that
684[07:54:03] <Gilles> if I ran Android, I would only get a model I could upgrade to the latest available version myself
685[07:54:26] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v ojii
686[07:55:12] <HubbeWork> So any model, just install cyanogenmod? :P
687[07:55:17] <henine> actually HTC is a pretty good bet there. you can unlock their phones freely
688[07:55:41] <HubbeWork> I've yet to encounter a phone that you couldn't unlock and root pretty easily
689[07:55:47] <Gilles> I was under the impression that cyanogenmod ran better on some models than others
690[07:56:05] <HubbeWork> Samsung's latest ones are a bit iffy about it with their efuse warranty bits, though
691[07:56:22] <Gilles> certainly that was the case with early Android devices
692[07:56:25] <HubbeWork> Eh, sortof?
693[07:56:27] <Gilles> I admittedly haven't kept up
694[07:56:44] <HubbeWork> Cyanogenmod runs pretty good on most devices, but the official devs don't have time to support everything
695[07:57:00] <HubbeWork> So a lot of devices just get unofficial versions, which can be a bit shoddier
696[07:57:23] <Gilles> also, Cyanogenmod is neccessarily behind official releases
697[07:57:34] <Gilles> and you have to root your phone to install it
698[07:57:39] <Gilles> which is not a thing I like to do
699[07:57:43] <henine> not root. just unlock
700[07:58:16] <HubbeWork> Cyanogenmod is almost always up to date with the latest android sources
701[07:58:28] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Ranneko
702[07:58:40] <Gilles> how does unlocking a phone allow the installation of a different OS?
703[07:58:43] <HubbeWork> And if not, they're at most a few days or weeks behind as they patch up their custom stuff to work with new changes
704[07:59:24] <henine> normally the bootloader prevents writes to the system partitions. so you have to change that somehow (depends on the phone)
705[07:59:38] <henine> then you can install a new OS
706[07:59:44] <HubbeWork> Of course, not all phone-specific cyanogenmod builds are always all that up to date with the latest
707[07:59:49] <HubbeWork> anyway, lunchtims
708[07:59:52] <Gilles> so isn't that rooting the phone?
709[08:00:04] <henine> no rooting is getting root access to the OS
710[08:00:13] <Gilles> I suppose
711[08:01:36] <henine> in theory the two are completely orthogonal
712[08:02:01] <Gilles> if I wasn't using iOS, I think my preference would actually be Windows, but there is no app support for that
713[08:03:17] <Gilles> I'm mostly happy with Apple's eco-system though
714[08:03:47] <Gilles> there's a few things I wish they'd do, but I'm sure it'd be the same on another platform
715[08:05:12] <elcalen> Every OS Sucks
716[08:05:17] <Gilles> indeed
717[08:05:42] <Gilles> the one that bugs me the most is their policy of not allowing anyone to sell anything on their platform unless they get a cut
718[08:06:52] <Gilles> so you have to buy things in the browser, and then jump back to the app to use them
719[08:07:00] <Gilles> which is completely stupid
720[08:07:07] *Noy2222[Lalalala] rolls naked in cash*
721[08:07:48] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> $371 profit at the moment
722[08:07:59] <Gilles> and their cut is always a hard 30%.. non-negotiable
723[08:08:30] <Gilles> which no retailer would give up.. many of them don't even get that kind of cut
724[08:08:52] *elcalen listens to his tummy rumble*
725[08:09:46] <Gilles> US and EU investigates them for other stupid things, but not about that blatant abuse of power
726[08:10:09] <Hira> Lamb sadly it's legal here.
727[08:11:21] <Gilles> that's legal, but Microsoft bundling a browser in Windows is illegal
728[08:11:27] <Hira> But I am not looking for medicine per se, I wanted a referral from her and I got it.
729[08:11:29] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +ov AeroCmdr AeroCmdr
730[08:11:44] <Hira> Gilles, I was continuing an earlier thing
731[08:11:57] <Gilles> oh, I know
732[08:12:07] <Gilles> I was just continuing my rant
733[08:15:10] <ekimekim> i just realised something. those "shocking" images that show you how much sugar is in a can of coke...make me want a coke
734[08:15:25] <elcalen> eeyup.
735[08:15:38] <Gilles> and half the stuff in those images is bullshit or misleading
736[08:15:40] *ekimekim consumes coke*
737[08:16:13] <Gilles> the stuff that isn't is the stuff you pretty much knew anyway
738[08:16:30] <Gilles> sugar and caffeine do stuff to your body!
739[08:16:36] <elcalen> whoo!
740[08:16:37] <PyMoronBot> elcalen is not a owl.
741[08:16:45] <Gilles> (or corn syrup, as the case may be)
742[08:17:13] <ekimekim> i'm planning on bringing checked baggage on my next trip home
743[08:17:22] <ekimekim> so on the way back i can load it up with soft drinks
744[08:17:31] <elcalen> no way! all these chemicals will certainly pass through my body without doing anything! :P
745[08:18:13] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> I think I'll take my vacation in a month's time. makes more sense.
746[08:18:15] <PyMoronBot> New LRRCast! Title: Magnum Rewatch 24 - Wave Goodbye | http://goo.gl/9VSnKr
747[08:18:20] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> And now it's totally sponsored
748[08:18:27] <Gilles> ekimekim: presumably not on a plane then?
749[08:18:50] <Gilles> because planes won't let you do that
750[08:19:01] <ekimekim> they won't?
751[08:19:19] <ekimekim> i know they chuck a fit at liquids on carry-on
752[08:19:27] <ekimekim> but checked baggage?
753[08:19:39] <Gilles> oh right, checked..
754[08:19:50] <Gilles> well, there's still a weight limit you'll have to be mindful of
755[08:19:54] <ekimekim> nod
756[08:20:04] <Gilles> soft drinks in bulk are heavy
757[08:20:20] <elcalen> well, liquid in general in bulk
758[08:20:29] <Ranneko> I really need to get my hands on a source for Magnum PI, why did they remove it from US Netflix? Why did they never add it to Nordic netflix too.
759[08:21:13] <ekimekim> see, this is why I get all my tv shows from an easy, reliable source
760[08:21:42] <ekimekim> that just so happens to be free, which is a shame because i can't give money to the content creators
761[08:21:47] <Ranneko> Is it some kind of place where you can find them to1,1r1,0rent?
762[08:22:05] <ekimekim> ...i'm talking about pirate bay
763[08:22:27] <Ranneko> Yeah
764[08:22:42] <elcalen> I... don't find torrents particularly reliable, especially for any slightly older content
765[08:23:07] <ekimekim> really? i never have any problem at all. I find it in one search, I download, it works.
766[08:23:10] <Fay> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
767[08:23:13] <Ranneko> A running joke in my friend group is to pronounce torrent to-rrent
768[08:23:20] <Didero> Eh, Magnum PI was popular enough, right? So it shouldn't be too hard to find
769[08:23:21] <elcalen> either there are no seeds, or quality is shit or whatever
770[08:23:37] <Fay> Iwillbegettingonaplanein32hours
771[08:23:48] <Ranneko> Fay: Where are you headed?
772[08:23:49] <Didero> Oh hey, just found about 5 seasons of Magnum PI
773[08:23:56] <Fay> Ireland
774[08:23:58] <Fay> For smooches
775[08:24:01] <Didero> 400 MB per episode, that's not too bad
776[08:24:09] <Ranneko> Fay: Cool
777[08:24:16] <elcalen> Didero: 'popular enough' being the keyword, it's not reliable for everything
778[08:24:17] <Ranneko> Is it a long/short flight from where you live?
779[08:24:19] <Fay> And grad school
780[08:24:25] <Fay> It's a 14-hour trip
781[08:24:31] <Ranneko> But the priority being irish smooches?
782[08:24:36] <Didero> elcalen: NEVER WATCH ANYTYHING UNPOPULAR AGAIN. You and your weird personal taste
783[08:24:37] <Didero> :P
784[08:24:48] <Didero> But yeah, fair point
785[08:24:50] <Fay> The priority being the smooches of the beau I've been courting for five years
786[08:25:20] <Ranneko> Yeah, those sound like pretty good smooches
787[08:25:27] <Fay> Yeeeee
788[08:25:36] <ekimekim> speaking as someone who has moved continents before, good luck with local documentation / taxes / phone / banking / etc etc
789[08:25:49] <Fay> We will finally get to live together for longer than a few months
790[08:25:55] <Fay> I'll be on a student visa for two years, ekim
791[08:26:00] <Fay> So *slightly* less hassle
792[08:26:12] <ekimekim> right, no work authorization so no tax issues
793[08:26:16] <Fay> And I'm on his insurance because Demonware offers insurance to partners as well as spouses
794[08:26:23] <Fay> Actually I do have part-time work allowed
795[08:26:26] <ekimekim> oh
796[08:26:33] <Fay> But the work I'll be doing is still at my old job, remotely
797[08:26:37] <Fay> Which is a US company
798[08:26:40] <Fay> And I'm a US citizen
799[08:26:45] <ekimekim> ah
800[08:26:46] <Fay> So I *think* I'm in the clear
801[08:26:49] <ekimekim> well that makes things easier
802[08:26:53] <Fay> Yup!
803[08:27:04] <Ranneko> Look up how tax will work.
804[08:27:10] *ekimekim got badly dicked around by US SSN and other tax stuff when he first arrived*
805[08:27:12] <Ranneko> You may need to lodge a tax return in both places
806[08:27:22] <Ranneko> And also the tax years may not line up perfectly
807[08:27:26] <Ranneko> For extra headaches
808[08:27:30] <ekimekim> yeah.
809[08:27:56] <Ranneko> But yeah, Ireland may want to know how much you are earning in/from the US and how much tax you have paid on it.
810[08:27:59] <ekimekim> that reminds me, i need to file an extension for my aus tax for the first half of this year so i can file it a year later once i've done my us tax for the first half of this year
811[08:28:14] <Ranneko> ekimekim: Woo.
812[08:28:24] <Ranneko> I need to file my AU tax return at some point.
813[08:28:33] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +ov Heufneutje Heufneutje
814[08:28:35] <Fay> I tried to look it up a bit but there was a lot of stuff :/
815[08:28:42] <Ranneko> And to inform my bank I have moved so I don't have to keep doing that.
816[08:28:44] <Fay> But yeah, point
817[08:28:47] <Heufneutje> meow
818[08:28:48] *RoBoBo points at Heufneutje, "KITTEH"*
819[08:29:09] <Fay> I think, at least for 2015, I'll have done so little of it in Ireland that I should be set
820[08:29:13] *Fay crosses fingers*
821[08:29:33] <Ranneko> And my understanding is that as a US Citizen the US believes it can tax any unearned income you get regardless of the source or location that you live in.
822[08:29:52] <Ranneko> And unearned income can include payments from foreign governments.
823[08:30:07] <Gilles> I believe that's correct
824[08:30:26] <Heufneutje> -.---.-.
825[08:30:29] <Heufneutje> oops
826[08:30:30] *Ranneko knows one american that is no longer a US citizen to avoid dealing with that.*
827[08:30:31] <Heufneutje> .
828[08:30:34] <Heufneutje> ...
829[08:30:38] <Heufneutje> goddamnit keyboard
830[08:30:52] <ekimekim> Ranneko yeah, that's one reason i don't want to pursue a US citizenship
831[08:31:11] <Gilles> the US taxes everything
832[08:31:32] <HubbeWork> dognobbit Heufneutje
833[08:31:45] <HubbeWork> you can't just leave before I have time to boop you :I
834[08:31:46] <PyMoronBot> Boop! http://i.imgur.com/vC5gy.jpg
835[08:31:54] <Gilles> if you win a car in the US, you have to pay the taxes on it
836[08:32:01] <Gilles> on its MSRP
837[08:32:06] <Didero> ...why is Heufneutje talking in Morse all of a sudden?
838[08:32:55] <Gilles> if you win money, you have to pay taxes on it, but at least in that case they just withhold a portion
839[08:33:12] <Gilles> if you win a physical object, you actually have to pay money to get that object
840[08:33:38] <ekimekim> i've always found morse a little weird. It's a ternary system with variable-length encoding, except that one of the three characters is exclusively used to end every symbol
841[08:33:43] <HubbeWork> That is how lotteries work here aswell
842[08:34:03] <HubbeWork> Well I dunno about taxes on physical objects
843[08:34:09] <Didero> Yeah, you have to pay taxes on lottery winnings. But most lotteries just advertise the net prize money
844[08:34:23] <Didero> I'll just go win a car or something and report back on that :P
845[08:34:24] <Gilles> not here
846[08:34:28] <HubbeWork> If you win a car, you have to start paying tax on having that car
847[08:34:32] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +ov Heufneutje Heufneutje
848[08:34:34] <ekimekim> I'm just saying that you could probably get a more efficient system that's easier to understand if you dropped the idea of pauses and just did huffman encoding on the alphabet for . and -
849[08:34:38] <HubbeWork> But I don't believe you have to pay tax just to receive said cair
850[08:34:42] <HubbeWork> Ah!
851[08:34:46] *HubbeWork boops Heufneutje*
852[08:34:47] <PyMoronBot> Boop! http://i.imgur.com/ddiNHHz.jpg
853[08:34:49] <Heufneutje> eep
854[08:34:52] <Heufneutje> there much bnetter
855[08:34:53] <HubbeWork> Silly Heufy you left before I could boop you
856[08:34:55] <Heufneutje> beter
857[08:34:56] <Fay> Five yearrssss
858[08:34:58] <Heufneutje> BETTER
859[08:34:59] <Fay> And then smooches
860[08:35:01] <Fay> Man
861[08:35:03] *Heufneutje touches HubbeWork*
862[08:35:06] <Didero> ekimekim: Do you mean one of the characters is a space?
863[08:35:17] <Gilles> here in Canada, anything you win is yours, tax-free
864[08:35:26] <Gilles> because it wasn't earned
865[08:35:34] <ekimekim> Didero: yes
866[08:35:42] <ekimekim> the three characters in morse are . - and " "
867[08:35:52] <ekimekim> because .. != . .
868[08:36:04] <Heufneutje> I should reboot my server but
869[08:36:07] <Heufneutje> l a z y
870[08:36:10] <Didero> ekimekim: Also, morse code is made for telegraph transmission and the like, I'm not sure you could send what you're proposing over that?
871[08:36:20] *Heufneutje flops*
872[08:36:21] <ekimekim> all i'm proposing is to drop the spaces
873[08:36:23] <HubbeWork> You'd still have to have spaces though
874[08:36:27] <HubbeWork> For word separation
875[08:36:31] <ekimekim> that's what i'm saying
876[08:36:39] <Gilles> how do you send a space by telegraph?
877[08:36:43] <Didero> But how do you know when a letter ends then?
878[08:36:44] <Gilles> just pause?
879[08:36:55] <ekimekim> if every sequence was unambiguous
880[08:36:58] <HubbeWork> You separate letters with a pause
881[08:37:06] <ekimekim> eg. if ..- was a letter
882[08:37:08] <HubbeWork> And words with a longer pause, I belive
883[08:37:10] <ekimekim> then .. could not be a letter
884[08:37:19] <HubbeWork> And sentences are normally ended with STOP
885[08:37:21] <Didero> Then you'd need all letters to be the same length
886[08:37:24] <ekimekim> because then you can't tell if ..- is .. - or ..-
887[08:37:32] <ekimekim> no you wouldn't
888[08:37:35] <Fay> In general, liability for Irish taxes depends on your residence status. You're considered resident in Ireland for tax purposes if you spend 183 or more days there in a tax year
889[08:37:39] <ekimekim> .wiki Huffman Encoding
890[08:37:40] <PyMoronBot> Huffman coding 14| In computer science and information theory, a Huffman code is a particular type of optimal prefix code that is commonly used for lossless data compression. 14| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_coding
891[08:37:43] <Fay> Looks like I'm set for 2015 at least
892[08:37:55] <Gilles> what if your sentence includes the word "stop"? :P
893[08:38:06] <Didero> Yeah, I'm already reading that, ekimekim. But I'm still a bit confused
894[08:38:15] <Didero> Actually,
895[08:38:19] <Didero> s/a bit //
896[08:38:20] <PyMoronBot> Yeah, I'm already reading that, ekimekim. But I'm still confused
897[08:38:43] <ekimekim> the idea is that every sequence is either a) a letter or b) a prefix of a letter but not both
898[08:39:02] <ekimekim> so if one letter is .., then no other letter can start with ..
899[08:39:06] <Ranneko> I wonder if Ireland does the same thing Sweden does, where it sends you a thing which is "We think this is how much you earnt, and this is how much tax you owe/are getting back" If you agree, pay the tax owing and everything is done.
900[08:39:11] <ekimekim> then any time you see ".." you know that's the end of the letter
901[08:39:56] <Didero> So basically you'd construct a tree based on probability, with 'left' being a letter and 'right' meaning going down a node?
902[08:40:00] <ekimekim> Huffman encoding is a way of devising such a map of letters so that more common letters are shorter
903[08:40:13] <ekimekim> not nessecarily
904[08:40:22] <ekimekim> left and right could both be down a node
905[08:40:27] <ekimekim> or one could be a letter
906[08:40:29] <ekimekim> or both
907[08:40:57] <ekimekim> if every second letter was "e", then using a 1-bit encoding for e (eg. ".") would be more efficient
908[08:41:21] <ekimekim> but if only every 1/4 letters was "e", then using 1 bit for "e" would mean other things take longer and you lose out overall
909[08:41:32] <ekimekim> because now nothing else can start with "."
910[08:41:49] <Didero> But there's probably been a lot of research in letter occurrences in the English language
911[08:42:17] <HubbeWork> Yes there has
912[08:42:19] <Didero> So yeah, go back to when morse code was invented, and suggest a better way! :P
913[08:42:25] <ekimekim> heh, fair
914[08:42:31] *Heufneutje licks HubbeWork's ear*
915[08:42:50] <Heufneutje> mw
916[08:43:40] <ekimekim> also, appropos of nothing:
917[08:43:41] <ekimekim> "It seems that in the November 2014 election, voting machines in one precinct were repeatedly crashing, and it was hypothesized to be due to some interference from someone trying to download music using their iPhone."
918[08:44:01] <Didero> That's just embarassing
919[08:44:22] <Didero> Oh, ekimekim, maybe you know: Is JetBrains' Java IDE as good as their Python one?
920[08:44:28] <ekimekim> no idea
921[08:44:35] *ekimekim doesn't java, also doesn't IDE*
922[08:44:36] <Didero> Thanks, that really helps :P
923[08:44:53] <Didero> You don't use IDEs?
924[08:44:57] <ekimekim> vim
925[08:45:18] <Didero> That's just a text editor, right?
926[08:45:19] <HubbeWork> eep
927[08:45:26] <ekimekim> more or less
928[08:45:37] <HubbeWork> Most of JetBrains' IDEs are really good
929[08:45:48] <HubbeWork> I haven't tried out their C one yet, though
930[08:45:49] <ekimekim> it can be tricked out a ton, but the way i use it yeah it's a pretty dumb text editor
931[08:45:56] <Didero> I don't think I could code without an IDE. If I didn't have autocomplete, my variable names would be shorter and less descriptive, for one
932[08:46:07] <ekimekim> (dumb meaning simple, not fancy or highly integrated)
933[08:46:14] *Heufneutje licks Didero's ear as well*
934[08:46:21] <Didero> ew
935[08:46:26] <Heufneutje> :<
936[08:46:32] <Heufneutje> mewwww...
937[08:46:51] <ekimekim> I guess i'm just used to it, I have no problem typing out variables
938[08:47:06] <Heufneutje> also Didero to answer your question
939[08:47:09] <ekimekim> besides, I dislike autocomplete for python because it's impossible to be always correct
940[08:47:14] <Heufneutje> Yes, IntelliJ is just as good as PyCharm
941[08:47:40] <Didero> I'll take autocomplete occasionally being wrong over not having it at all
942[08:47:50] <ekimekim> yeah, i know
943[08:47:54] <ekimekim> it's just a personal thing
944[08:48:00] <Didero> And thanks, Heufneutje
945[08:48:14] <HubbeWork> I love IDEs for their project structure stuff alone
946[08:48:31] <HubbeWork> I'm the WORST at organizing stuff so every little bit of help in that regard is super useful
947[08:48:37] <Heufneutje> PyCharm is pretty much a clone of IntelliJ that's changed to work with Python
948[08:48:46] <ekimekim> i'm pretty anal about keeping my code well organized
949[08:49:00] <Heufneutje> So they're kinda identical except for the language
950[08:49:13] <ekimekim> and i'm naturalized to the command line now, so ls and grep make more sense to me than a folder UI
951[08:50:52] <Didero> NERD
952[08:50:53] <Didero> :P
953[08:51:01] <Heufneutje> your face is a nerd
954[08:51:04] <Heufneutje> :y
955[08:51:09] <Didero> of course it is, as is the rest of me
956[08:51:14] <Didero> you should know this by now
957[08:51:17] *LuckieNewt snuggles Heufy *
958[08:51:18] <Heufneutje> :P
959[08:51:24] *Heufneutje snuggles LuckieNewt*
960[08:51:31] <LuckieNewt> :3
961[08:51:35] <HubbeWork> I am also a nerd
962[08:51:44] <Heufneutje> I think most of us are
963[08:51:48] <HubbeWork> There are many nerds here yes
964[08:51:52] *LuckieNewt also snuggle piles ekimekim and Didero*
965[08:51:58] <HubbeWork> And we all have our own issues
966[08:52:01] <Didero> ohhi
967[08:52:05] <HubbeWork> We're all of us broken in our own ways
968[08:52:11] <LuckieNewt> and Hubbe
969[08:52:22] <HubbeWork> I just wish I knew what's broken with me
970[08:52:34] <HubbeWork> Would probably be easier to fix if I knew what it all was
971[08:53:04] <Didero> My problem is probably lack of direction, and an inability or unwillingness to fix that
972[08:53:25] <Didero> Basically I should just stop messing around and just go do something :P
973[08:53:36] <Didero> Which is of course easier said than done
974[08:53:47] <ekimekim> Having gone and done something, i've now found an equalibrium point
975[08:53:55] <ekimekim> now i'm not sure how to get out...or if i want to
976[08:54:01] *Heufneutje lazesssssss*
977[08:54:05] <Heufneutje> I should do a thing
978[08:54:54] <Didero> Hey, if you're doing what you want to do, and it's sustainable, there's no reason to change
979[08:54:55] *LuckieNewt goes to bed*
980[08:54:59] <LuckieNewt> that's a thing
981[08:55:14] <LuckieNewt> gnite
982[08:55:24] <Didero> night!
983[08:55:42] <ekimekim> i dunno. i'm happy where I am, but I'm not going anywhere
984[08:55:51] <HubbeWork> My main problem is not knowing what I want
985[08:55:55] <ekimekim> ^
986[08:55:57] <HubbeWork> And also the depression
987[08:56:08] <HubbeWork> Though I'd put money on them being at least a bit related
988[08:56:09] <Didero> Yeah, I have NO idea what I want to do with my life
989[08:56:10] <Ranneko> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-16/metadata-retention-privacy-phone-will-ockenden/6694152
990[08:56:12] <PyMoronBot> How your phone tracks your every move - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (at www.abc.net.au)
991[08:56:22] <Ranneko> They make the data pretty easy to explore in that story
992[08:56:24] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> you know what you need Hubbe
993[08:56:29] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> INTERNET HUGS!!
994[08:56:31] *Anubis169|w0rkthing huggles HubbeWork *
995[08:56:59] <Didero> And it doesn't help that my parents are really pushing me to get a job. Especially my dad just wants me to get any job, as long as it's a job. Which doesn't sound like a good solution
996[08:57:23] <ekimekim> if you're financially stable as is, it is a bad idea to get a job you'll hate
997[08:57:38] <Didero> Yeah, that's my thinking too
998[08:57:59] <Didero> But maybe that's a bit too newfangled thinking for my parents :P
999[08:58:03] <Didero> They're old!
1000[08:58:22] <HubbeWork> Money's less important to me than mental health
1001[08:58:25] <Didero> Then again, I'm only financially stable because I'm still living with my parents, which isn't something I want to keep up for years
1002[08:58:39] <HubbeWork> I'd much rather be unemployed than have a grindy desk job that I hate
1003[08:59:06] <Gilles> I quit my last job precisely because money was less important to me than mental health
1004[08:59:17] <Didero> Yeah, me too Hubbe
1005[08:59:40] <Gilles> (and of course have found nothing since)
1006[09:00:23] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Cuttlefishman
1007[09:00:29] <Hiramas> home again
1008[09:00:38] <Hiramas> minus a vampire-snack sized portion of blood
1009[09:01:09] <HubbeWork> I can't wait for this week to be over
1010[09:01:22] <HubbeWork> Then I can just not go back to work for a week and then uni starts
1011[09:01:30] <HubbeWork> So much better
1012[09:02:12] <Didero> I've had a summer job just filling out Excel sheets, and it was probably one of the most boring things I've ever done
1013[09:02:20] <Didero> And I have an Economics degree!
1014[09:02:22] <Didero> :P
1015[09:02:23] <Heufneutje> sshhhh
1016[09:02:25] <Heufneutje> don't tell Xela
1017[09:02:33] <Didero> Hey, to each their own
1018[09:02:53] *Gilles types random numbers in all the Excel sheets*
1019[09:02:54] <Didero> He'd probably get bored shitless if we made him write an IRC bot in Python :P
1020[09:03:08] <Heufneutje> hroom
1021[09:03:09] <Didero> Gilles: There's a function for that!
1022[09:03:14] *Heufneutje sneezes*
1023[09:03:20] <Didero> Ooh, he should write an IRC bot in Excel!
1024[09:03:26] <Heufneutje> oh god
1025[09:03:38] <Hiramas> HubbeWork: yay uni!
1026[09:03:54] <Gilles> Didero: well yes, but that's not as fun as replacing correct numbers with random ones :P
1027[09:04:11] <ekimekim> you laugh, but in the finance sector implementing a multi-million dollar trading algorithm in excel is seen as "how you do it"
1028[09:04:17] <Gilles> manually, that is
1029[09:04:48] <Gilles> all praise to VBA? :P
1030[09:04:54] <Didero> But they run on microseconds, wouldn't they want something faster?
1031[09:05:01] <HubbeWork> frigging excel and its dumbs
1032[09:05:44] <ekimekim> Didero: granted i'm not an expert here, but i'm pretty sure this isn't a HFT sort of thing
1033[09:06:32] <Tyranic-Moron> mornin'
1034[09:06:35] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> yo!
1035[09:06:56] <Didero> Hi
1036[09:08:39] <Hiramas> They build a community city in Skylines during Gamescom which is seriously broken and you can now download and try to fix it XD
1037[09:09:14] *Gilles downloads it, deletes everything, and rebuilds*
1038[09:09:16] <Gilles> fixed!
1039[09:10:34] <Gilles> they should make everything in it locked in and undeletable
1040[09:10:45] <Gilles> and you have to fix it by building around it
1041[09:11:19] <Hiramas> interesting
1042[09:12:32] <Gilles> come to think of it, that'd be an interesting way to build a sort of challenge mode into the game
1043[09:13:07] <Gilles> create template cities that are broken and have the player try to fix them
1044[09:16:23] <Tyranic-Moron> https://twitter.com/exitingcorpse/status/633562581526032385
1045[09:16:25] <PyMoronBot> 14[2015/08/18 01:54] @exitingcorpse: whats the deal with seasonal adjectives. 14| autumnal 14| summery 14| wintery 14| ...springy? 14| do americans say fallal? fally?
1046[09:17:26] <Gilles> I think only summery and wintery are really used
1047[09:17:42] <Gilles> the other two are transitional seasons
1048[09:18:08] <HubbeWork> The feelings associated with them are feelings of change aswell
1049[09:18:25] <Tyranic-Moron> I've definitely seen autumnal in english writing
1050[09:18:32] <HubbeWork> So You'd likely use something like "fleeting" instead
1051[09:18:37] <Didero> .find autumnal
1052[09:18:38] <PyMoronBot> Autumnal | Define Autumnal at Dictionary.com 14| Autumnal definition, belonging to or suggestive of autumn; produced or gathered in autumn: autumnal colors. See more. 14| http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/autumnal
1053[09:18:41] <HubbeWork> Oh hello capital Y
1054[09:18:44] <Didero> Aw, a boring definition
1055[09:18:46] <HubbeWork> Where did you come from
1056[09:18:49] <Gilles> oh, I'm sure it's used
1057[09:18:58] <Gilles> but not as commonly
1058[09:19:21] <Gilles> at least over on this side of the pond
1059[09:21:31] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v Cider
1060[09:22:05] <henine> .ud autumnal
1061[09:22:05] <PyMoronBot> Autumnal: Autumn-like
1062[09:22:07] <PyMoronBot> Example(s): The leaves will fall from skies, and turn autumnal brown
1063[09:22:08] <PyMoronBot> Prescott 14| 09+1214/04-7 14| More defs: http://Autumnal.urbanup.com/
1064[09:22:10] <Heufneutje> hmmmm
1065[09:22:12] <Heufneutje> My controller is being very wonk
1066[09:22:13] <HubbeWork> ~tell HubbeKing Find a pyhon API for pushbullet and get you coding you butt
1067[09:22:15] <PyHeufyBot> Okay, I'll tell HubbeKing that next time they speak.
1068[09:23:29] <Tyranic-Moron> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pushbullet.py
1069[09:23:30] <PyMoronBot> pushbullet.py 0.8.1 : Python Package Index (at pypi.python.org)
1070[09:23:42] <Tyranic-Moron> looks like a pretty good API
1071[09:24:55] <elcalen> 'autumnal' to me sounds more familiar than 'summery' or 'wintery'
1072[09:25:18] <elcalen> also I'd spell it 'wintry'
1073[09:25:55] <elcalen> 'summery' sounds odd and unfamiliar
1074[09:27:03] <Tyranic-Moron> and like summary
1075[09:27:08] <Tyranic-Moron> :P
1076[09:27:11] <elcalen> indeed
1077[09:27:13] <HubbeWork> ~tell HubbeKing TM did the finding so get coding you butt https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pushbullet.py
1078[09:27:14] <PyHeufyBot> Okay, I'll tell HubbeKing that next time they speak.
1079[09:27:15] <PyMoronBot> pushbullet.py 0.8.1 : Python Package Index (at pypi.python.org)
1080[09:28:42] <HubbeWork> I'm planning on making a pushbullet api for Hubbot
1081[09:28:43] <Hubbot> Hm, wonder if that matters for your application
1082[09:28:57] <HubbeWork> So people can use that to send me messages if they need to
1083[09:29:09] <HubbeWork> And also so I can +pushbullet myself things without having to log into pushbullet :P
1084[09:30:53] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v InquisitorJL
1085[09:32:22] <ekimekim> i did a similar thing with ekimbot and email
1086[09:32:42] <HubbeWork> Sadly it looks like you can't arbitrarily pushbullet others things. You'd need to add their pushbullet accounts into your contacts first...
1087[09:32:45] <ekimekim> if i'm mentioned and i don't respond, it emails me
1088[09:33:05] <ekimekim> in other news, -70c superconductor O.o
1089[09:33:09] <ekimekim> http://www.nature.com/news/superconductivity-record-sparks-wave-of-follow-up-physics-1.18191
1090[09:33:10] <PyMoronBot> Superconductivity record sparks wave of follow-up physics : Nature News & Comment (at www.nature.com)
1091[09:33:11] <HubbeWork> Yup
1092[09:33:20] <HubbeWork> Science!
1093[09:33:51] <HubbeWork> also yaaaaaaaaay my previous landlord just emailed me and he'll be paying my deposit back this week
1094[09:33:54] <HubbeWork> yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay money
1095[09:34:20] <Hiramas> one day they will manufacture a superconducter that is easily usable in everyday use
1096[09:35:19] <HubbeWork> Still, -70 is HUGE
1097[09:35:36] <Hiramas> it is
1098[09:35:38] <HubbeWork> You don't need nearly as much expensive coolant to maintain that kind of temperature
1099[09:35:55] <HubbeWork> Compared to the -200 superconductors of the past
1100[09:35:56] <ekimekim> however, the material in question needs to be at super high pressure
1101[09:36:00] <ekimekim> and is very, very toxic
1102[09:36:07] <HubbeWork> Yeah...
1103[09:36:09] <HubbeWork> Still!
1104[09:36:11] <HubbeWork> Baby steps
1105[09:36:21] <ekimekim> "It's more lethal than hydrogen cyanide, and despite its powerful stench at low concentrations (detectable by humans at half a part per billion), it becomes odorless (by paralyzing your sense of smell) right around when you need to start getting worried."
1106[09:36:30] <elcalen> no, don't let your baby near this thing
1107[09:37:57] <ekimekim> heh, best comment: "maybe it's just the (near dead) chemist in me geeking out" "Work around enough H2S and it will take you the rest of the way."
1108[09:38:37] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Woohoo!
1109[09:38:45] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> $470 profit and counting
1110[09:39:24] <Tyranic-Moron> "Zhang in Dallas and Yugui Yao of the Beijing Institute of Technology in China predict that substituting 7.5% of the sulfur atoms in hydrogen sulfide with phosphorus and upping the pressure to 2.5 million atmospheres (250 GPa) could raise the superconducting transition temperature all the way to 280 K6, which is above water's freezing point."
1111[09:39:33] <Tyranic-Moron> so, making it even more dangerous
1112[09:40:06] <Tyranic-Moron> oh, that 6 is a reference marker
1113[09:40:22] <elcalen> 2.5 million atmospheres... that sounds like a lot of pressure
1114[09:41:24] <Tyranic-Moron> still, good news, assuming it gets verified
1115[09:43:21] *Noy2222[Lalalala] dances the rich man dance.*
1116[09:44:29] <ekimekim> .find youtube if i were a rich man
1117[09:44:30] <PyMoronBot> Fiddler on the roof - If I were a rich man (with subtitles) - YouTube 14| Aug 19, 2006 ... If I were a rich man, Ya ha deedle deedle, bubba bubba deedle deedle dum.... All day long I'd biddy biddy bum. If I were a wealthy man. 14| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHZFYpQ6nc
1118[09:44:45] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> I think I'll hold 'till 10%
1119[09:44:51] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> I'm too chicken to wait for more
1120[09:45:29] <elcalen> and what exactly is biddy biddy bumming?
1121[09:45:46] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Ask your parents
1122[09:46:32] <elcalen> also now I have If I Were a Deep One playing in my head, which is the more familiar version of this song to me :P
1123[09:47:20] <elcalen> blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub blub
1124[09:47:21] <PyMoronBot> elcalen is DEFINITELY a deep one.
1125[09:47:25] <elcalen> welp
1126[09:48:05] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Not that I liked the song in the first place, it's been plagued in my head by the new pop version
1127[09:48:22] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> It's WAY too slow
1128[09:48:23] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> uh oh...
1129[09:48:25] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> umm
1130[09:48:37] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> i accidentally bit my upper lip last night
1131[09:48:49] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> like 1/4 way along from the left
1132[09:49:02] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Was it tasty?
1133[09:49:08] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> i still can't feel anything around that point :/
1134[09:49:14] <elcalen> owwie
1135[09:49:33] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> not owwie.. nothing, that's the problem
1136[09:49:47] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> no hot, no cold, no pain, no sense at all ;/
1137[09:50:01] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> hope it wasn't a nerve i bit into :/
1138[09:50:06] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Are you a zombie?
1139[09:50:23] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> nope, i've had my morning tea
1140[09:50:24] <Hubbot> I don't think so either.
1141[09:52:14] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Ok, ok, stop looking at the stock market.
1142[09:52:20] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> It will never boil
1143[09:53:10] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> selling time?
1144[09:53:44] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> I want to, but it's set to rise so much
1145[09:53:56] :ChanServ!ChanServ@services.desertbus.org MODE #desertbus +v LambMower
1146[09:53:59] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> want me to do something a little.. questionable to boost it? :P
1147[09:54:07] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> Nuh
1148[09:54:34] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> i'm pretty sure twitterbombs can affect the stock market these days
1149[09:54:36] <elcalen> Anubis169|w0rkthing: are you actually a global conspiracy that controls the world's economy?
1150[09:54:57] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> I just need to control myself
1151[09:54:58] <Anubis169|w0rkthing> nope, just somebody who doesn't give a flying monkey's about a lot of things :)
1152[09:55:11] <LambMower> http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-08-15-your-mind-is-mine/
1153[09:55:12] <PyMoronBot> Your mind is mine (Commander / EDH MTG Deck) (at tappedout.net)
1154[09:55:17] <LambMower> Now I need 13 equally disgusting cards
1155[09:55:22] <Noy2222[Lalalala]> But if you can make Apple release their new iPhone quicker...
1156[09:56:05] <HubbeWork> ^mtg Sen Triplets
1157[09:56:06] <DideRobot> Sen Triplets [Legendary Artifact Creature %u2014 Human Wizard] (2 W U B, CMC 5) (3/3 P/T). At the beginning of your upkeep, choose target opponent. This turn, that player can't cast spells or activate abilities and plays with his or her hand revealed. You may play cards from that player's hand this turn.
1158[09:56:11] <HubbeWork> Truly this card is gross
1159[09:56:47] <elcalen> that is... quite nasty
1160[09:57:18] <LambMower> Just look at my entire deck list
1161[09:57:28] <LambMower> That's my main commander deck :P I forgot how gross it was
1162[09:57:33] <Sani> sooooo !log
1163[09:57:49] <LambMower> I'm adding cards to make it full again, sold off a ton of rares a year back
1164[09:57:51] <Sani> daman it keyboard
1165[09:57:53] <Sani> !log