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3<cukier> Nae: That link is amazing.
4<@Nae> yepp
5<@Nae> I'd use that to inspire someone to learn to code. Easier than learning Piano XD
6<cukier> I want someone to teach me music theory.
7<@Nae> same
8<@Nae> While I understood some of his lisp, I have no fucking clue about the music theory
9<Yewnyx> lisp is a pretty neat language
10<cukier> I love looking at things that I know how they work and see what's happening there and it's awesome as in Awe.
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12<cukier> And when I listen to the music I feel that things are happening
13<cukier> but I don't understand them.
14<cukier> And I feel like I could have more complete thing if I understood them.
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16<Luminifera> ...
17<Luminifera> You must be joking if you think programming is easier than music
18<howl> music is probably harder to teach than programming
19<Olivebirdy> ehh, maybe
20<Olivebirdy> Singing is pretty easy
21<Olivebirdy> And that's also music.
22<Quanfinigon> no it isn't
23<cukier> ^
24<Olivebirdy> Yes it is.
25<cukier> It's not music theory.
26<cukier> And we were talking about music theory.
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30<Olivebirdy> Ah, music theory is annoying.
31<cukier> Why is it annoying?
32<Olivebirdy> :<
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34<Yewnyx> instruments are wayyyyyyy harder than using a mouse and keyboard, but programming is more like composing than playing music
35<Yewnyx> imo
36<cukier> Yes.
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41<howl> programming is easier than composing
42<Olivebirdy> What would happen if Grue drained/used Weld's power?
43<Olivebirdy> Or Sveta's?
44<howl> the two tasks are functionally identical, but in one of them the target machine is poorly defined, and every instance runs a slightly different OS.
45<Olivebirdy> Maybe Grue gets immunity to Mantpn-Limited powers, Weld's Changer effect gets a bit slower?
46<cukier> I think he would be still made of flesh, but will stick to all the metal
47<cukier> and assuming he gets enough metal in contact with him, then he will swap his flesh for metal
48<cukier> and then he will be immune to manton-limited powers.
49<Benguin> and when it wears off?
50<Benguin> would he be fucked?
51<howl> are metallic bodies really manton toggled towards inorganic matter?
52<Benguin> no
53<howl> Can Vista bend Hookwolf for example?
54<Benguin> both inorganic and organic
55<Benguin> in welds case
56<Benguin> he's hard to target with powers that affect only either of them
57<Benguin> panacea would have a hard time but so would Vista.
58<Benguin> Iirc.
59<howl> shame.
60<howl> They could tag team like "Stretchy Punch!"
61<Olivebirdy> That would be kind of cool.
62<Olivebirdy> Metal sticks to Grue.
63<Panda> Whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you
64<Panda> Cuz I'm Weld and you're Grue
65<Olivebirdy> Then he leaves Weld's range..
66• Panda: nods
67<Panda> I'm caught up.
68<Olivebirdy> And is encased in armor he can't get off.
69<Olivebirdy> Oops.
70<Benguin> he might even integrate it into his body
71<Benguin> and then get very ill once the power is gone
72<cukier> Yes.
73<lankhmar> what happens if grue steals welds power...and then touches weld?
74<lankhmar> bwahaha
75<cukier> :D
76<Benguin> Weld could maybe use him as a power sink
77<Benguin> and sort of
78<Benguin> wick the metal on him to grue
79<Benguin> and then probably die if he has any metal organs
80<howl> Coule a powerful enough ferrokinetic wear Weld like a suit?
81<Benguin> could be a good way to get rid of excess.
82<cukier> Well... Weld counts as both organic and inorganic. So Grue won't stick to organic Weld.
83<Benguin> no
84<lankhmar> oh now that would be funny
85<lankhmar> wearing weld wearing svet
86<Benguin> weld is good against non-organic attacks too remember
87<Benguin> Not sure if it's inviolable immunity thoufgdh
88<howl> Squshy core, Weld outer later, and a Sveta hat.
89<Benguin> or just a "he's fuzzy to me" sort of resistance.
90<howl> the Weldozord needs more parts.
91<howl> shh ben, I'm ignoring reality in favour of my talking Weld suit
92<cukier> Bonesaw can make a suit from most capes.
93<Olivebirdy> Oh god, guys. I love you. <3
94<Olivebirdy> hahah
95<cukier> Panacea too.
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98<cukier> Leto made a suit from small Sandworms.
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102<%JENTHULHU> RAAAAAAAAAAAGE
103<howl> Are you okay JEN?
104<Panda> RISE JENTHULHU
105<Panda> RECLAIM YOUR RIGHTFUL SPOT IN OUR PANTHEON
106<%JENTHULHU> I was tricked into DSL
107<Panda> Oi, Cthunnifer, are you still antithetically opposed to looking at things on SV?
108<Panda> Because there's a decent quality quest where you're a spirit aiming to become a god and it might be your speed.
109<Olivebirdy> maze?
110<Rhetorical> o/ Panda
111<Panda> Hey Rhet
112<Panda> Not that one, Olive
113<Panda> But that's a good one too
114<Panda> https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/into-the-amber-age-original.21137/
115<Panda> This one. Verra good.
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119<lankhmar> that sounds fun
120<lankhmar> oh my god 300 pages
121<lankhmar> this is clearly quite awesome and/or insanely popular
122<Panda> Both.
123<lankhmar> (those don't always correlate)
124<Panda> It helps that there's /always/ a bunch of discussion/debate in between each vote.
125<Panda> Usually it's quality as well, so that helps.
126<howl> I burnt my broccoli. BALLS
127<Panda> bbl
128<Rhet|class> o/
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130• Rhet|class: pokes Elara
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134<Benguin> Guuh never before have I so wanted to posses the ability to turn a straight guy gay
135<howl> got a housemate crush?
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137<Benguin> Made a great friend in my course/tutor group
138<Benguin> he's basically perfect so far
139<Benguin> good work ethic, confident, attractive, willing to learn, really understanding and... has like an intuitive sense of people.
140<Benguin> And yet
141<Benguin> really approachable
142<cukier> http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emily-lakdawalla/2015/09251135-the-solar-system-at-1-km.html
143<cukier> It's hard. :C
144<Rhet|class> Poor Ben
145<Yewnyx> Benguin: sounds like a good person to stick around for
146<Benguin> Have a feeling we'll be good friends
147<Rhet|class> \o/
148<Benguin> He's 6 years older than me though. tried to take uni when he was my age, didn't like the course he chose
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150<Benguin> did a few years of work to raise money
151<Quanfinigon> well that explains it
152<Benguin> having another crack at it
153<Benguin> Yeah these aren't qualities I've seen in someone my age (where all qualities are present)
154<Yewnyx> six years is nothing
155<Benguin> My problem is that I've skipped what seems to be the typical phase of.. "Woo lets party every night"
156<Benguin> Yeah his age isn't an issue
157<Benguin> just mentioning for context.
158<Yewnyx> i've always hated parties
159<Benguin> less partying and more.. going to clubs every night.
160<Rhet|class> I've never been to one
161<Benguin> That said I'm going on a bar crawl on Friday. Primarily because he'll be there and has offered to help me be less shy/anxious in social situations
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163<Rhet|class> Sweet
164<Benguin> The crawl has a 'white shirt and marker pens' theme
165<Benguin> which is gonna be fun / awkward
166<Benguin> I'm setting some goals here. Goal 1 is to attend. Goal 2 is to actually meet at least 3 people, and have conversations with them that aren't small talk. Goal 3 is to write my number on a guy's titty.
167<Benguin> #3 is somethin' of a stretch goal.
168<PC|GM> Ollie, Terrarium is making an appearance in #WDCharlotte
169<Olivebirdy> Noted :)
170<lankhmar> damn that's kind of fun cukier
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172<Rhet|class> Is that a thing, Ben?
173<Benguin> Yeah
174<Rhet|class> Writing numbers on guys' titties
175<lankhmar> Would need to spend a long time learning about planet formation though <_<
176<Benguin> get to draw on everybody \o/
177<Benguin> oh
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179<Benguin> yeah
180<Benguin> if you draw on their titty via white tshirt
181<Rhet|class> Huh
182<ErrantVagrant> . . .
183<Rhet|class> I guess I need to get out more
184<Rhet|class> :P
185<Rhet|class> Heya EV
186<ErrantVagrant> I don't even want to know.
187<ErrantVagrant> Heya Rhet!
188<Olivebirdy> hi
189<ErrantVagrant> Heya Alive!
190<Rhet|class> o/ Olive
191<ErrantVagrant> ...How did I type A instead of O?
192<ErrantVagrant> Ahem, Heya Olive!
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194<lankhmar> it's fine ErrantVagrant, Benguin wants to doodle on men
195<cukier> lankhmar: I can recognise some of them, but the ones that are just craters are too similar.
196<Benguin> s/on//
197<ErrantVagrant> Top o' the day to ya, lankhmar!  And that is slightly more tolerable.
198<lankhmar> is bottom right olympus mons? could be super wrong though
199<cukier> I don't think so.
200<cukier> Could be Mars though
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203<Rhet|class> brb, quiz
204<lankhmar> tbh a good start cukier would probably be trying to get the ones which clearly have active erosion going on
205<cukier> Do you want to hear my guesses that are probably wrong?
206<lankhmar> sure!
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208<cukier> Pretty sure that blurry one on the left is Titan in infrared.
209<cukier> Second from the bottom on the right is Europa. (if not - then bottom center)
210<cukier> Top right looks like Earth - I see something like rivers
211<cukier> and snow
212<cukier> glaciers?
213<lucid> Space planets all look very similar.
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216<cukier> In the distance many of them look much more different.
217<cukier> Bottom right - looks like sand for me. And dried rivers? I think it's Mars.
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219<%JENTHULHU> blar
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221<cukier> Pluto is certainly on these photos. But center top or second from the top on the left?
222<cukier> !
223<cukier> On the left is this funny moon that is black and white
224<howl> I read that the moon is nearly completely black.
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226<cukier> and center top is a Pluto on a border of the Tombvcoihsuiaegvsd regio.
227<cukier> Very flat ice bordering the mountains.
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230<cukier> I heard it too howl.
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233<%JENTHULHU> we need more pictures of Jupiter II
234<cukier> The hell is the second from the bottom on the left?
235<cukier> Hell?
236<cukier> Is this Venus?
237<cukier> Jupiter II is Europa?
238<PC|GM> I fear I'm being too theatrical at playing Olive's avatar in Charlotte.....
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240<PC|GM> Most of my capes are sneaky, snippy, and kind of insane anyway.
241<LopezThePenguin> You guys seen the Worm CTOA?
242<LopezThePenguin> CYOA*
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244<LopezThePenguin> I got hilariously overpower capes
245<LopezThePenguin> overpowered*
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247<LopezThePenguin> All with RNG
248<Olivebirdy> He seems to be playing it up a bit, yeah.
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250<Benguin> ewwww
251<LopezThePenguin> ew?
252<Benguin> ewwwww! http://i.imgur.com/3Xo2iPi.png
253<LopezThePenguin> Bleh
254<cukier> Middle-bottom right is Ceres probably, because white stuff in the craters.
255<howl> What is it?
256<Benguin> I hope that when it says "or gives an Affirmation" is an alternative to swearing on a Holy Book
257<Benguin> and not just an explanation of what swearing on a holy book is or w/e
258<LopezThePenguin> Swear to the necronomicon
259<Benguin> This is Britain damn it
260<Benguin> I thought we separated church and state
261<Benguin> THis is just to change my legal name
262<Olivebirdy> I am so bored, I'm actually nauseous.
263<Olivebirdy> What should i dooo
264<howl> the state is still officially Christian, but in reality things are more secular here than the US where they're separate.
265<Benguin> Learn somethin'
266<LopezThePenguin> Olive try the CYOA
267<LopezThePenguin> I wanna see what other people come up with
268<LopezThePenguin> http://imgur.com/a/SpOdK
269<Olivebirdy> CYOAs are dumb....
270<LopezThePenguin> I enjoy em
271<Olivebirdy> I'll do it.
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273<Olivebirdy> It annoys me that Standard is 'head and shoulders above the parahuman rabble'
274<LopezThePenguin> Yea
275<Lacks> While I'm firmly of the opinion that any idea can be made into a good story, I think that using the CYOA makes it harder than otherwise.  Not really a fan.
276<LopezThePenguin> I did skitter mode
277<LopezThePenguin> I dont do it to make a story its just for my personal enjoyment
278<LopezThePenguin> I also use it to practice making back stories for characters
279<Olivebirdy> Yeah, I'd rather make some sort of OC.
280<Lacks> That's fine, of course.
281<lankhmar> They spoil the big reveal in the opening paragraph
282• lankhmar: is not impressives
283<lankhmar> *impressed
284<Olivebirdy> I've made a single plan for making an OC.
285<LopezThePenguin> Whats the plan Olive?
286<Lacks> I just prefer free-form stuff, unless it's for a tabletop game or something, which I'm pretty sure the CYOA chart isn't.
287<LopezThePenguin> Nope
288<LopezThePenguin> Theres a subreddit, /r/makeyourchoice
289<Olivebirdy> Get in touch with Cauldron, trade all my information for a good anti-Master vial.
290<Megafire> Hello everyone.
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292<LopezThePenguin> Hey mega
293<Olivebirdy> Go kill Cherish.
294<Megafire> What's up?
295<LopezThePenguin> I would dedicate so much time to fuck up that one kid
296<LopezThePenguin> Greg
297<LopezThePenguin> That one
298<Olivebirdy> Become Butcher, minus icky side-effects and personalities.
299<Gundor> > I don't really buy into the "Coil was dumb at X time" or "Taylor was dumb at Y time" arguments pretty much at all.
300<Gundor> That's because you lack creativity, Lacks! :P
301<LopezThePenguin> heh
302<LopezThePenguin> puns
303<Lacks> Man, don't make me go on a rant here...
304<LopezThePenguin> lankhmar the spoilery bit are for the people that havent read worm so they get the general story
305<LopezThePenguin> Most people on /r/makeyourchoice dont read a lot of the stuff
306<LopezThePenguin> Or they read all of it
307<Gundor> (I actually agree with you, just felt an opening for a pun that subtly pokes fun at the arguments you're disagreeing with)
308<Gundor> (i.e. it requires a creative interpretation of the facts to think that :P)
309<Gundor> *evidence
310<Lacks> Well fair enough.
311<Lacks> I'm too tired right now to be anything other than serious :P
312<Lacks> I had a hell of a day.
313<Yewnyx> aw. *pats*
314<Lacks> I there an emote for sleeping?  That'd be useful right about now.
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317<howl> z_z
318<cukier> Zzz...
319<LopezThePenguin> zZz
320<Lacks> Well yes, that works.
321<Lacks> z_z
322<LopezThePenguin> ZzZ
323<cukier> 😴 <- sleeping face emoji
324<howl> looks like a unicode box to me
325<LopezThePenguin> ^
326<Hakurei06> same
327<cukier> http://i.imgur.com/dCE8c3Y.png
328<LopezThePenguin> Why does your browser look magic
329<Rhetorical> Mmm taquitos
330<cukier> What do you mean?
331<Yewnyx> it's just chromium?
332<cukier> It's just chromium.
333<LopezThePenguin> mm
334<Hakurei06> How does anyone think the YG responded to Denis branding himself as Clock?
335<Rhetorical> YG?
336<Olivebirdy> Indignant.
337<Hakurei06> Youth Guard
338<Bruticus> Yao Guai?
339<Bruticus> Oh
340<Rhetorical> The what now?
341<cukier> Earlier somebody asked if they should eat ramen or taquito. I checked what taquito is, Rhetorical.
342<Gundor> what about yaoguai?
343<Hakurei06> What distro is that, Cukier?
344<cukier> Arch.
345<Gundor> Has that fic updated!?!?
346<Yewnyx> fallout fan detected, Bruticus
347<Teller> Would they even be concerned? That's for the PR people to have headaches over.
348<cukier> WM is Cinnamon(default on Mint)
349<Rhetorical> Theme?
350<Hakurei06> I thought they were the concerned moms advocacy group of worm
351<cukier> Numix
352• Rhetorical: takes notes
353<LopezThePenguin> PPA
354<Gundor> > This thread lies dormant for more than 2 Months. Restarting it causes mods to gaze in your direction.
355<cukier> numix gtk, numix icons, numix cinnamon
356<LopezThePenguin> Parahuman Parents Association
357<Gundor> Why'd you bring my hopes up Bruticus !?
358<Rhetorical> numix numix numix
359<Bruticus> Uh...
360<Bruticus> I have no idea what fic you mean
361<cukier> Ubuntu Human cursors. :P
362<Bruticus> I just say Yao Guai because YG
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364<Rhetorical> Hmm
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366<Rhetorical> Do I get my coffee and be a few minutes late to class, or do I sacrifice all the line-waiting I've done so far?
367<Benguin> Yes
368<Rhetorical> Thanks, Ben
369<cukier> Are there any downsides for being late?
370<Rhetorical> Not really
371<cukier> Get your coffee.
372<Rhetorical> None explicit, anyways
373<ErrantVagrant> Get your coffee.
374<Rhetorical> Will do
375<Bruticus> What fic did you mean, Gundor?
376<Rhetorical> Thank you, personal advisory board
377<Rhetorical> :P
378<cukier> No problem.
379<cukier> I too sometimes outsource my decision making.
380<ErrantVagrant> Then yell that you have claimed this coffee in the name of Spain as you enter class at the top of your lungs.
381• ErrantVagrant: gives the best advice
382<lankhmar> but...it's from Yemen
383<cukier> I need a private phone line to you EV
384<lankhmar> or arabia in general apparently
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386<ErrantVagrant> SILENCE
387<cukier> I need your advicegiving.
388• cukier: falls silent.
389<ErrantVagrant> cukier: That is expensive, though.
390<cukier> :(
391<ErrantVagrant> Nono, you can talk.
392<cukier> Private IRC line?
393<ErrantVagrant> Far cheaper.
394<cukier> Public IRC line?
395<Rhetorical> My instructor is Turkish. Should this affect my country of choice for my claim?
396<ErrantVagrant> Slightly more embarrassing as I ask for inane clarifications about unrelated things.
397<ErrantVagrant> Hmmm...  Turkish does change things a bit.
398<ErrantVagrant> An alternative is to loudly complain that this coffee doesn't let you see sound, and is therefore inferior.
399<Rhetorical> Hmm
400<ErrantVagrant> (Turkish coffee is awesome)
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402<Rhetorical> Indeed
403<Rhetorical> So I have heard
404<Rhetorical> Far superior to this Starbucks I hold in my hand
405<ErrantVagrant> After class, ask your teacher what you'd have to bribe them for real coffee.
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407<ErrantVagrant> Offer the souls of your classmates.
408<Rhetorical> They're computer science majors
409<Rhetorical> They already have no souls
410<Bruticus> Ehhhh
411<lankhmar> just ask them the best place in wherever you are for real coffee
412<Rhetorical> Isn't that racist, though?
413<howl> Nobody has no souls!
414<cukier> They have Dark Souls.
415<ErrantVagrant> howl, you've never seen the IT department at the end of the day.
416<Bruticus> Probably 1 and 2
417<cukier> Yes.
418<ErrantVagrant> They're souless husks.
419<howl> I guess they do have Dark Souls
420<howl> some of them might even have Demons' Souls
421<ErrantVagrant> The look in their eyes as they realize they have to do it again tomorrow is harrowing.
422<howl> which I prefer because of how awkward it is to say
423<howl> my company's IT department are pretty chipper at the end of the day
424<ErrantVagrant> That's because they aren't human.
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428<cukier> Aaaaah!
429<cukier> It's so cold outside!
430<cukier> :<
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432<Lacks> How cold is it?
433<Lacks> (I ask this, as a Canadian, for the opportunity to mock you for complaining about the cold)
434<Oz> IT'S COLD AS BALLS, LOUISE
435<cukier> I had to grab water from the balcony
436<cukier> and I had no pants on me
437<Bruticus> Well, cuk is Polish
438<Bruticus> It's pretty freakin' cold there
439<cukier> and I wasn't prepared for it
440Rhetorical is now known as Rhet|class
441• ErrantVagrant: jots that down in preparation for future advice
442<Rhet|class> "Pants are good"
443<cukier> and I live in the coldest part of Poland.
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445<Materia-Blade> I live!
446<ErrantVagrant> Liar!
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448<ErrantVagrant> I mean, hi!
449<cukier> Hi.
450<Materia-Blade> lulz
451<cukier> Pants are good.
452<cukier> You can add this to the quote bot or something.
453<cukier> My advice for everyone.
454<Chrono|> Whats the temps like?
455<lankhmar> brings to mind some advice I gave someone else once for something
456<cukier> 6°C
457<cukier> 279K
458<Materia-Blade> cukier: Huh? I totally disagree.
459<Chrono|> thats pretty pleasant
460<lankhmar> which involved using no-pants as an excuse to talk to people at the mall or something "Had you seen my pants anywhere? They look...well, like pants"
461<tubes> i reccomend chubbies
462<tubes> they're kind of like underwear, but publicly acceptable
463<PC|GM> Aww
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466<Bruticus> Hey Lacks, don't think I've talked to you about the latest Academia chapter
467<Bruticus> That teacher lineup was awesome
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469<Lacks> Agreed.
470<Lacks> Concrete dude is probably my favorite, for some reason.
471<ErrantVagrant> They're like a dress, but enclose each leg individually.
472<Bruticus> He seems calm
473<Lacks> Indeed!
474<Bruticus> I like Present Mic
475<Lacks> Plus concrete-o-mancy is an awesome power.
476<Bruticus> Excited to see his power
477<Lacks> He does have a distinct design, it's true.
478<Oz> I just realised what was so odd about chrome today...
479<Oz> I opened firefox
480<Bruticus> Reminds me of Gladius, a bit, my favourite Dofla Family member
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482• PC|GM: throws her sceptre at the Firefox application
483<Oz> :c
484<PC|GM> Grrr....
485<Lacks> Also the fact that grapes got ninth position on the test was hilarious to me.
486<Materia-Blade> Stop yourspoilers!?!
487<Materia-Blade> Wagggh
488<PC|GM> What test?
489• Materia-Blade: scrolls up
490<Bruticus> Grapes is hilarious
491<Bruticus> And electric guy getting last, think we all saw that coming
492<Lacks> Yep!
493<Bruticus> I'm sure I'll remember their superhero names, but I'll never remember all their real names
494<Lacks> Same.
495<Lacks> I have zero chance.
496<Lacks> Thus, the nicknames.
497<Lacks> Like frog!
498<Lacks> You know, the highly memorable character, frog!
499<Bruticus> Hey, Frog is cool
500<cukier> Hello Frog.
501<Lacks> I do like Frog.
502<Lacks> Frog has been pretty good so far.
503<Bruticus> Sound Jack girl is the best, though
504<Bruticus> Personal pref
505<PC|GM> My fourteen year old sister started reading Worm.
506<Lacks> She's been getting some spotlight recently, yeah.
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508<PC|GM> Not sure how I feel about that, I mean I read it when I was younger than she is.
509<Lacks> I don't have any really stand-out favorites, though, I don't think.
510<Lacks> Except concrete dude.
511<Bruticus> Nah, it'll take some development
512<Lacks> Worried about your sister's suffering, PC?
513<Bruticus> I'm hoping they'll all get their turns soon enough
514<Lacks> Same.
515<Lacks> It's a fun cast.
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517<Bruticus> Why do you like concrete guy? You relate to his disposition, or just like his powers?
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519<Lacks> His power is pretty awesome, but I just like his design.
520<Lacks> I mean, his head is a rectangle, and his eyes are right at the top of his head.
521<Lacks> It amuses me.
522<Lacks> But really it's mostly his power.
523<Bruticus> http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/bokunoheroacademia/images/d/de/Cement.png/revision/latest?cb=20141217032522
524<Lacks> Also, his costume is like, just a black jumpsuit.
525<Bruticus> Looks pretty stoned
526<Bruticus> Ehhhhh
527• JENTHULHU: sends Tenno after Bruticus
528• PC|GM: materializes a ball of fire to defend Tenno, before teleporting away
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533• lankhmar: burns a fire to consume all the oxygen, leave Tenno defenseless and suffocate them
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535• Luminifera: returns from her slumber
536<Luminifera> Not an actual slumber.
537<Luminifera> I was just taking a shower.
538<PC|GM> God my last line in WDCharlotte was great....
539• ErrantVagrant: squeaks a finger against Lumi
540<ErrantVagrant> Yup, clean.
541<ErrantVagrant> XD
542<PC|GM> http://pastebin.com/CjVwC7Zt
543<cukier> Lumi was sleeping in the shower.
544<cukier> Good thing you didn't drown.
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548<PC|GM> Ollie you just tried to kill someone!
549<PC|GM> Olivebirdy / Terrarium is a murderer/hero :)
550<cukier> Does he have a soul?
551<PC|GM> Sort of
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553<PC|GM> Jem Jem!
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555<cukier> Goodnight everyone.
556<cukier> <3
557<Luminifera> night, cuki!
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559<PC|GM> Night Cuki!
560<ErrantVagrant> Night cuki
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569<ErrantVagrant> Hey Panda!
570<Panda> Hey Eve!
571<Benguin> Hm
572<Benguin> I need writing advice, in terms of "how will this paragraph be taken?" any biters?
573<Benguin> I'm helping a friend structure his personal statement for university appliclatiotns
574<Benguin> applications*
575<Panda> Aye.
576<Panda> Wait
577<Benguin> "One other thing that really pushes me towards the direction of obtaining a university education is that nobody in my immediate family has done so before; I’d be the first."
578<Panda> On a scale of 1 to 10, how dry is it?
579<Panda> If it's higher than 5, pass. I might cry.
580<Panda> Yeah that's a run on sentence
581<Benguin> I don't want him to sound like he's trying to score points
582<Benguin> aside from whether it's a run on or not, what do you think?
583<Luminifera> I think it's fine to say something like that
584<Panda> For personal reasons, being the first person from my family to get higher education is a major drive for me.
585<Panda> Something like that.
586<Luminifera> oh
587<Panda> It's an unwieldy sentence as is.
588<Benguin> isn't that a little...
589<Luminifera> I like pandas version better.
590<Panda> Restructure and condense while keeping the core.
591<Benguin> withhold-y?
592<Benguin> 'for personal reasons..'
593<Panda> Take it out
594<Luminifera> yeah
595<Panda> Doesn't matter, it's a more malleable sentence
596<Luminifera> just leave the being... for me part
597<Panda> I was providing an example
598<Benguin> Keep in mind this is more or less a whole paragraph, as the last section that would be about /why/ he wants to go to uni/take CS
599<Panda> Blah blah blah relevant intro to sentence, being the first person-
600<Panda> Something like that that doesn't drag on.
601<Benguin> unless I merge the paragraph with something else
602<Panda> On an unrelated note, I just came from my first philosophy club meeting.
603<Panda> Hnnng.
604<Panda> Good shit.
605<Benguin> heh
606<Benguin> nice
607Rhet|class is now known as Rhetorical
608<Benguin> Hmm did I make it somehow worse? http://i.imgur.com/pTNhvWS.png
609<Benguin> new version is above
610<Benguin> old version below.
611<Benguin> should remove "because of this" probably
612<Rhetorical> What's this for, Ben?
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614<Benguin> Helping a friend write their personal statement.
615<Rhetorical> Hmm
616<howl> What's the university's objective? Are they trying to filter out people who won't stay for the full course?
617<Rhetorical> I'll take a look as soon as I get back to my dorm room
618<Benguin> it's just a personal statement. The single thing about you that can make you stick out from the other students (aside from have 6 A-levels at a* or some shit)
619<Benguin> The same statement is used for all universities
620<Benguin> (by mandate)
621<Panda> "Look, fuck this shit. Let me in and I'll get you all the finest Columbian cocaine. Think about it."
622<Luminifera> https://youtu.be/c8Ag3_v67N0
623<Luminifera> please watch
624<Panda> ^Sticks out.
625<Rhetorical> I wrote something similar in my personal statement
626<Rhetorical> Except about my dad being the first in his family and following in his footsteps, etc.
627<Lacks> This doesn't seem like a very interesting video, Lumi.
628<ErrantVagrant> Oh, I love these videos!
629<howl> I suppose the bit about being the first in their family to go to uni implies that they'll use that as motivation, and therefore are unusually motivated to work hard.
630• Panda: drools
631<Panda> There's a girl passing through the cafeteria who looks like Luna Lovegood, right?
632<Panda> And she's wearing these tights in the best possible way.
633<Rhetorical> Heh
634<Panda> dios mio
635• Panda: cries a lil
636<Rhetorical> Like Evana Lynch, you mean?
637<Panda> Yes
638<Panda> Forgot her name
639• Panda: highfives
640<Rhetorical> Nicr
641<Lacks> Man, it's like they chose the lamest candy to get a negative reaction, or something.
642<Rhetorical> Nice*
643<ErrantVagrant> Hehe, endoscopy pipe?  Haha!
644<Rhetorical> Had a bit of a crush on her...
645<Rhetorical> Her and Bonnie Wright
646<Benguin> I liked this part though "That isn’t the only reason though; part of my passion for computer science is about exploring my curiosity. Every new piece of software is something new to break, fix, and break again. I have something of a explorative learning style."
647<Panda> You have good taste in girl crushes, Rhet.
648<Panda> But they all seem to be a bit unhinged.
649• Panda: glances at Lumi
650• Panda: says nothing
651<Benguin> I originally wrote ('cause this isn't /his/ personal statement it's what I'd write if I were him, and he's going to wreck it afterwards to be his,) "destructive" learning style but w/e
652<Rhetorical> Dem gingers
653<Panda> lawl
654<Rhetorical> And Lumi
655<Panda> hahaha
656<Rhetorical> Seriously, like 90% of my crushes have been gingers
657<Panda> I've had a single ginger crush, who I then dated, so I don't understand this.
658<Luminifera> :/
659• Luminifera: was born with bright red hair
660<Panda> I'm 90% sure I dated the only attractive ginger in the South USA
661<Rhetorical> :/
662• Panda: smiles innocently
663<ErrantVagrant> HA!
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665<Luminifera> Wow panda
666<Luminifera> :o
667<Luminifera> I highly doubt ir
668<Rhetorical> ^
669<Rhetorical> ^^
670<Luminifera> panda hates them gingers
671<Rhetorical> I have a counter-example
672<Luminifera> rhet has a hot ginger neighbor
673<Panda> Not hate
674<Panda> I just don't see that many attractive ones where I'm at
675<Rhetorical> Alas, she has spurned me
676<Panda> Nothing against the poor homely people
677<Rhetorical> I do?
678<Panda> ha
679<Rhetorical> That was I was like, 6
680<Rhetorical> *was when I
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684<Luminifera> sure rhet... you tell yourself that... ;)
685<Rhetorical> Erm
686<Rhetorical> I mean, I'm pretty sure none of my neighbors now are ginger
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688<Shem_Phone> Morning!
689<Rhetorical> Afternoon
690<Rhetorical> :P
691<ErrantVagrant> Thing!
692<Rhetorical> Stuff!
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695<%JENTHULHU> beware
696<Rhetorical> Hmm?
697<%JENTHULHU> the end times are nigh
698<%JENTHULHU> ours is deserved damnation
699<Rhetorical> rip
700<%JENTHULHU> oddly enough
701<%JENTHULHU> no one calls me out on the reference of the quote
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704<Teller> The last part strikes me as being from a poem, but not the other line(s).
705• Teller: probably does not know the reference.
706<%JENTHULHU> Neverwinter Nights
707<%JENTHULHU> it is one of the city background track voices
708<%JENTHULHU> during the plague
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712• JENTHULHU: gives Teller a box of raisin brahms
713• Teller: examines the box curiously.
714<%JENTHULHU> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOsbyuLyPbE
715<Teller> Ah, danke.
716<Teller> It feels odd to say 'danke' even with the context of raisin brahms.
717• Teller: cleanses keyboard.
718<soulpelt|> Heh
719<Luminifera> Hello Shem!
720• JENTHULHU: examines Luminifera
721• Luminifera: stands still while being exanjd
722<Luminifera> examined.
723<Pink2> I just learned that 'Frobenius endomorphism' is a thing.
724<%JENTHULHU> mmm?
725<Pink2> Quiet, chancellor.
726• JENTHULHU: pokes Luminifera's inflation plug
727<Shem_Phone> Hi Fera!
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729<Shem_Phone> Watching a Japanese soap opera right now
730<ErrantVagrant> ...
731<Shem_Phone> It's about a young girl in kimono and lots of angry or excited men
732<Bruticus> Are you just extrapolating from the visuals?
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734<Shem_Phone> Yes
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737ChanServ sets mode +o Clarvel
738• Clarvel: blors
739<@Clarvel> !
740<Shem_Phone> Hi larvae
741<@Clarvel>  /larvae/!?
742<Shem_Phone> *larvae*
743• Luminifera: inflates
744<Luminifera> larvae HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
745<Shem_Phone> New Twig when
746• Clarvel: deflates Luminifera
747<@Wildbow>  4.5 hours, Shem
748• Clarvel: ingflates Luminifera with mild aphrodesiac
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750• Rhetorical: sidles up to Lumi
751<Shem_Phone> Yay!
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753• Rhetorical: dances a traditional Irish jig
754<Rhetorical> Speaking of, where's Twonk been?
755<ErrantVagrant> O_O
756<ErrantVagrant> what the bzrglms
757<Rhetorical> Ayy
758<throwaawy> (08:07:01) JENTHULHU2: How is throwaawy <--- swamped in classwork and procrastinating like a boss
759<@Clarvel> hah
760<@Clarvel> I something due in a week
761<@Clarvel> http://orig06.deviantart.net/6e54/f/2010/092/1/5/pokemon_fail_by_kimimaro100040.jpg
762<Shem_Phone> The D&D aerryi drawing is new?
763<Bruticus> http://outsiderjapan.pbworks.com/f/1202784606/Sd_helmeppo.jpg Clar
764<Bruticus> What even is that? Some crazy tinkertech?
765<@Clarvel> what is this, a picture for ants?
766<Bruticus> Looks fine on mine
767<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: it is the face OF CENSORSHIP
768Benguin is now known as Benguin[ZzZ]
769<Benguin[ZzZ]> o/
770<@Clarvel> ...why did the guys' suit change color?
771<%JENTHULHU> dunno
772<Bruticus> The 4kids version also had some terrible filter on it
773<Bruticus> Made it ugly as hell
774<Rhetorical> Ayy
775<Rhetorical> My Rocket League win percentage is over 50%
776<Rhetorical> 51.4%, to be exact
777<Luminifera> wow
778<Luminifera> congrats on winning half the time
779<Rhetorical> :P
780<Luminifera> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=geFj_kMvasQ
781<Luminifera> here, have some magic tang
782<%JENTHULHU> Megalovania
783<Luminifera> no
784<Luminifera> Not vriska
785• Rhetorical: pokes Lumi
786<%JENTHULHU> Vriska best troll via tie with Terezi
787<Luminifera> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvq7R9dwJ3U
788<Luminifera> Me as a doctor
789<Luminifera> Jen hell yes I agree so much
790<ErrantVagrant> ...Are those gatoraid bottles?
791<Luminifera> :D
792• JENTHULHU: gives ErrantVagrant a bitching beard and mustache
793<@Clarvel> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitching
794• Clarvel: magines a beard and mustache complaining in a californian valley-girl's voice
795<Rhetorical> "Oh my ga-awd"
796<@Clarvel> "could we /be/ any more scraggly?"
797<Lacks> I am now watching The Dark Crystal.
798<@Clarvel> "At least we aren't pubic hair, poor thing"
799<@Clarvel> TDC?
800<ErrantVagrant> Man, I would kill for bitchin' facial hair.
801<Bruticus> The Dark Crystal, classic
802• ErrantVagrant: struts in my suit and vest
803<Bruticus> Skeksis man
804<Lacks> Found it on Blu Ray today for $5
805<Bruticus> Mmmmmmmm
806<Rhetorical> Like, totally
807<Bruticus> "I hate your whimper."
808<Lacks> :D
809<%JENTHULHU> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
810<Rhetorical> I think I will eat, now
811<Rhetorical> o/
812Rhetorical is now known as Rhet|food
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814<Rhet|food> Ayy Panda
815<Bruticus> Bacon, sausage, and mushroom poutine
816<Bruticus> I am become death
817<Rhet|food> Nice
818<Lacks> The destroyer of health?
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820<ErrantVagrant> Bruticus, I hate you.
821<@Wildbow> What's unhealthy about that?
822<ErrantVagrant> With all of my heart and all of my soul, I hate you.
823<ErrantVagrant> I will destroy you but not until after destroying all you love.
824<ErrantVagrant> I want that.  :(
825<@Wildbow> Also, poutine is great, for like, 2 minutes
826<@Wildbow> and then it becomes a soggy mess.
827<ErrantVagrant> If it's a tasty soggy mess, I am okay with this.
828<@Wildbow> Gets cold fast.
829<ErrantVagrant> ftp me some
830<Lacks> What's unhealthy about it, and this is personal experience, is having it three times a day for a year.
831<Lacks> Bit of an edge case, I'll admit, but still.
832<Bruticus> Doesn't help I live down the road from a place with 100 kinds
833<Lacks> Haha
834<Bruticus> I restrict myself to one every 2 weeks.
835<Lacks> How awful/awesome.
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842<Pink|Oubliette> It had mushrooms, it is healthy
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845<Luminifera> me trying really hard to draw something https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zh6uQZMD/IMG_20150928_215344.jpg
846<Luminifera> OH FUCK BOW IS ON
847<Luminifera> he's going to utterly destroy me
848<Luminifera> anyone know how to take pictures out of the internet? :(
849<Luminifera> "how to delete message sent on irc" google search
850<@Glernaj> ahahahahah
851<@Glernaj> that's adorable
852<@Glernaj> you think you can permanently delete things!
853<Teller> What? Bow'll hang it on his fridge, Lumi.
854<@Wildbow> Poor Lillian, not getting any screentime.
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856<@Wildbow> You should ink that shit, Lumpi.  Scan it and convert it to a proper image.  Is good.
857<@Wildbow> When I first glanced at it, I thought the text in the background was wallpaper.
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859<ErrantVagrant> Actually, that's kind of a cool effect, now that you mention it.
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862<@Clarvel> did I miss anything?
863<@Glernaj> did you see lumi's art?
864<@Clarvel> [19:59] Clarvel: do et lumpi
865<@Clarvel> was last msg
866<@Clarvel> also: got synoid simulor!
867<@Clarvel> also met a fan
868<@Glernaj>  so before I even joined then
869<ErrantVagrant> Lumi's pic:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/zh6uQZMD/IMG_20150928_215344.jpg
870<@Glernaj> oh, someone liked your thingy?
871<@Clarvel> yes
872<@Wildbow> Wildbow did.  For what little it counts.
873<@Glernaj> Is that where you got the synoid simulor? :P
874<@Clarvel> some want to pay me to make more
875<@Clarvel> also yes, but that was a trade
876<@Glernaj> (I totally can't remember what it's called)
877<@Wildbow> Met a fan?
878<@Glernaj> (So I'm calling it a thingy)
879<@Glernaj> Wilbur, Clarvel made a real model of an ingame thingy in Warframe
880<@Clarvel> made some 3D statues from a game people like to play
881<@Glernaj> and sent it to the company that makes the game and posted pictures
882<@Glernaj> And it looks awesome
883<@Glernaj> And people now want to pay him to make more!
884<@Wildbow> Oh, I saw the pictures when he was worrying about it getting stopped at the border.
885<@Clarvel> https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/533178-making-of-the-orokitty/
886<@Glernaj> Which leads to fun copyright issues!
887<@Clarvel> ^
888<@Clarvel> which I dun wanna deal with
889<@Clarvel> asked rebecca, she said they're not giving liscences for this type of merchandise
890<@Clarvel> which is 100% understandable
891<@Clarvel> so replicating/selling the design is illegal
892<@Clarvel> unfortunately
893<@Wildbow> That's too bad
894<@Clarvel> I wasnt /planing/ on making money with this
895<@Clarvel> but I've gotten a few pms asking for one, and when I say no they tell me it's like commissioning fanart
896<@Clarvel> which is just not true
897<@Wildbow> Commissioning fanart is questionable, actually.
898<@Clarvel> it is, but it's tolerated because of reasons
899<@Glernaj> Yeaaaah
900<@Clarvel> usually because the fallout of suing a fan/artist is just not worth
901<Lacks> Partly I imagine it's tolerated because you can't really stop it.
902<@Glernaj> It's a messy grey area, and since you like DE, it's not worth stepping on their toes.
903<@Clarvel> ^^^^
904<@Glernaj> I would also say the same if anyone asks you for the design pattern you made for the 3d printer
905<@Wildbow> Do you own the character in question?      Yes? Do what you please!      No? You have no legal right to profit from work featuring characters without permission from copyright holder.      No? You have almost no rights to create such works not for a profit, either.
906<@Clarvel> even if I didn't like DE I wouldnt want the potential for legal action against me
907<@Glernaj> (I assume that that file has a specific format of some type, but I don't know what it is)
908<@Clarvel> the 3D file?
909<@Glernaj> I assume so?
910<@Clarvel> I actually made it on a cloud service, so I export it as certain filetypes
911<@Clarvel> namely stl
912<@Glernaj> right
913<@Clarvel> for makerbot
914<@Glernaj> if anyone asks for that file, I would tell them no.
915<@Clarvel> see: not allowed to replicate
916<@Glernaj> yup
917<@Clarvel> idea: DE should hire me to make more
918<@Clarvel> :3
919<@Glernaj> Are you looking for a job in 3d design?
920<@Clarvel> AI/robotics, but am flexible
921<@Clarvel> half my classes atm are computer graphics oriented, and I've dabbled in 3D printing, building robots, woodworking
922<@Clarvel> if you need soemthing ~ human sized or smaller made I can probably do so without too much trouble
923<@Glernaj> ...
924<@Clarvel> depends what it is thugh
925<Tene> Clarvel: jetpack?
926<@Glernaj> My mind went some very troubling places with that statement.
927<@Clarvel> tene: what kind?
928<@Glernaj> FUNCTIONAL!
929<@Clarvel> rocket fuel I'd be worried about leglity of ownership
930<@Clarvel> there's a water powered one
931<@Clarvel> I think
932<Rhetorical> Yup
933<Rhetorical> I wonder if you could do prop-driven
934<@Clarvel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im1iNq02Kz0
935<Rhetorical> Like a quadcopter
936<@Clarvel> that's fairly dengerous depending on rotor placement
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938<@Clarvel> so yeah for that I'd probably buy a motorboat motor, juryrig the motor controls to one of the arm bars, and setup piping to properly direct the flow
939<@Glernaj> hmmm
940<Rhetorical> Probably have to be more of a hoverboard
941<@Clarvel> that actually looks really smal, I wonder where the engine/energy storage is
942<@Glernaj> on the boat I assume
943<Rhetorical> I think there's a (gas-powered?) pump floating below
944<@Clarvel> wonder if I can put motor and battery in a pod connected to the hose
945<@Glernaj> or is that self-contained?
946<@Clarvel> I thought it was at first
947<@Clarvel> but now am unsire
948<@Clarvel> it looked like just piping on his back
949<@Glernaj> nah
950<@Glernaj> 1:33
951<%JENTHULHU> what should I name my undertale chara
952<@Glernaj> there's a towed unit
953<@Glernaj> it's just hidden in the wake for the most part
954<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: fetish
955<%JENTHULHU> first, that's kinda... wrong
956<@Clarvel> gler: yeah that makes sense
957<%JENTHULHU> second, too many letters I think
958<@Clarvel> aw
959<%JENTHULHU> wait, no, it can have 6 letters
960<%JENTHULHU> but still
961<%JENTHULHU> not Fetish
962<@Glernaj> it's white, so it blends in with the wake
963<@Clarvel> why limit it to 6
964<%JENTHULHU> 6 is the character limit
965<Rhetorical> Only $99k
966<Rhetorical> Not bad
967<%JENTHULHU> in the game
968<@Clarvel> why is that the limit
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970<@Glernaj> looks about the size of a jetski
971<@Clarvel> makes no sense
972<@Glernaj> probably built out of one
973<@Wildbow> Undertale is faux retro
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975<@Wildbow> Postmodern retro?
976<@Wildbow> So it harkens back to the era of limited options there.
977<@Glernaj> Clarvel, I don't think you'd be able to go with a normal outboard motor
978<@Clarvel> what about Choice
979<@Glernaj> something more like a jet ski uses probably
980<@Clarvel> ah
981<@Glernaj> (I'm putting too much thought into this, aren't I?)
982<@Clarvel> jus a lil
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985<@Clarvel> 2min ago convo changed to jen's perdicament
986<@Glernaj> Yeah, but I don't care about undertale!
987<@Glernaj> I care about water jetpacks!
988<%JENTHULHU> well /too bad.
989<%JENTHULHU> start giving name suggestions
990<Teller> JEN, I need details.
991<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: Choice
992<@Glernaj> Doctor?
993<Teller> Who is this person that requires a name?
994<@Clarvel> Regret
995<@Glernaj> (My mind is in a Doctor Who space atm)
996<@Clarvel> Sadnes
997<Teller> Regret is a mean name for a child.
998<@Glernaj> Sorrow
999<@Glernaj> Hatred
1000<@Clarvel> Vegan
1001<@Wildbow> Morsel
1002<@Clarvel> (for a pacifist run)
1003<%JENTHULHU> well
1004<@Glernaj> PreDed
1005<%JENTHULHU> I have a name for a kill 'em all run ready, a perfect name for a murderous unrepentant psycho
1006<@Glernaj> Dexter?
1007<%JENTHULHU> Laird
1008<@Glernaj> He really didn't strike me as "muderous unrepentant psycho" personally
1009<%JENTHULHU> no
1010<@Clarvel> Dexter was great
1011<%JENTHULHU> but he's a monster that deserves to be reviled
1012<@Glernaj> He didn't even really strike me as a monster.
1013<@Glernaj> He was driven, yes
1014<@Glernaj> Monstrous? I'm not so sure.
1015<%JENTHULHU> he is literally unforgivable in my book
1016• Teller: does not even know if this character is male or female.
1017<@Glernaj> For what?
1018<@Glernaj> Male Teller
1019<@Glernaj> From Pact.
1020<%JENTHULHU> basically.... every interaction with the main chara
1021<@Glernaj> Antagonist for the first part of the story.
1022<Teller> I know who Laird is.
1023<Teller> I do not know who JEN's nameless character is.
1024<%JENTHULHU> the Undertale chara is intentionally gender neutral
1025<%JENTHULHU> could be either
1026<Teller> What do we know about them?
1027<%JENTHULHU> they are a blank slate kid who fell in a hole into the monster realm
1028<%JENTHULHU> this run will attempt to be pacifist
1029<Teller> Ah.
1030<%JENTHULHU> and there aren't enough spaces to name the Paarthurnax
1031<@Wildbow> @ Jenthulhu: Laird?
1032<Teller> You should call the murder run version 'Fell'.
1033<@Wildbow> You can be reminded of Laird every time the name comes up.
1034<%JENTHULHU> 'bow, if Laird Behaim were a real live person, I would kill them without reservation
1035<@Glernaj> I'm... pretty sure Laird Behaim is many real people.
1036<%JENTHULHU> if Pact's Laird Behaim
1037<%JENTHULHU> to be picky
1038<@Glernaj> Yes, I know.
1039<PC|GM> NaahhhhNaaahhhhNAaaahhh
1040<@Glernaj> I don't mean the name.
1041<@Glernaj> I mean the character, excluding the obvious time magic and whatnot.
1042<@Glernaj> But the personality?
1043<@Glernaj> Not super uncommon I don't think.
1044• JENTHULHU: starts feeding Glernaj eclairs
1045<%JENTHULHU> "Friendliness Pellets"
1046<PC|GM> Jenny you're quite the serial killer, aren't you.
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1048<%JENTHULHU> PC|GM: huh?
1049<PC|GM> 'Cause.
1050<PC|GM> Cuz*
1051<@Clarvel> A: yes
1052<@Clarvel> B: how has it taken u so long to catch onto this
1053• JENTHULHU: pushes Clarvel back in the box
1054• Clarvel: oozes around jen's grasping tentacles! FREEEEDMMM!!!!
1055<@Clarvel> brb
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1057• JENTHULHU: gives PC|GM many 'Friendliness Pellets'
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1059<Rhetorical> http://i.imgur.com/xlxXq.gif
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1061<%JENTHULHU> "Did you miss it?  Spider Bakesale down and to the right.  Come eat food made by spiders, for spiders, of spiders!"
1062<Quanfinigon> so... the whomping willow is a cat?
1063<Rhetorical> Exactly
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1065<Pink|Oubliette> Poor toriel
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1067• JENTHULHU: gives Pink|Oubliette butterscotch-cinnamon pie
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1070<@Clarvel> FREEEEDOMMMMM
1071<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krT0I/e4ac90a6df.png
1072<%JENTHULHU> *Clarvel is back in the box*
1073<@Clarvel> D:
1074<Teruzi> what's    that?
1075• Clarvel: oozes, making the cardboard soggy and easily breakable and escapes!
1076<@Clarvel> it's a cool fuckup
1077<@Clarvel> I colect them
1078<@Clarvel> 1/?
1079<Teruzi> I see?
1080<Teruzi> um, from where?
1081<@Clarvel> a thing I'm making
1082<Teruzi> what thing
1083<Teruzi> is it pixel art
1084<Teruzi> is it a game
1085<Teruzi> Clarvel are you making a game
1086<@Clarvel> graphics engine
1087<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/kjiaE/302edc9662.png
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1089<Teruzi> oh hey
1090<Teruzi> neat
1091• ErrantVagrant: still digs his bitchin' stache and beard
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1095• Rhetorical: yawns
1096<Nada> The log lady died!
1097• Nada: frowns.
1098<Teruzi> we hardly knew her?
1099<Rhetorical> Johnny?
1100<Rhetorical> Or did you know him?
1101<Rhetorical> (Alas)
1102<ErrantVagrant> ...wat
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1104<Rhetorical> I'm mixing my references
1105<Rhetorical> The second was sort of Hamlet
1106<Rhetorical> The first was Johnny I Hardly Knew Ya
1107<ErrantVagrant> Alas, poor Bob.  He did... Bob... things...
1108Thaliaway is now known as Thalia
1109<Nada> The log lady from Twin Peaks.
1110<Nada> She was seventy-one, but still.
1111<Teruzi> that vaguely sounds like spoilers
1112<ErrantVagrant> Oh, man...  She was awesome.
1113<Nada> I was watching Twin Peaks last week.
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1116<Teruzi> oh wait she died in real life?
1117<Teruzi> well, that makes a lot more sense
1118<Nada> Yeah.
1119<Nada> Instead of Windom Earle pretending to be her being generally nefarious.
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1124<Silent_Oracle> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EscOE4sSYOo
1125<Rhetorical> D:
1126<Rhetorical> ;_;
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1129<Chrono|Ill> oh that sorta looks
1130Chrono|Ill is now known as Chrono|Sick
1131<Chrono|Sick> better
1132<Rhetorical> ChornoII1ll1I!Ill
1133<Chrono|Sick> dont
1134<Chrono|Sick> i physically hurt looking at that
1135<Teruzi> hey, Chrono
1136<Teruzi> you ok?
1137<Chrono|Sick> sick
1138<Rhetorical> Hmm
1139• ErrantVagrant: gets chicken soup STAT
1140<Rhetorical> I've been invited to a Halloween party
1141<Teruzi> neat
1142<Teruzi> go as woody
1143<Rhetorical> I'm supposed to feel free to bring a friend
1144• Teruzi: waggles eyebrows
1145<Rhetorical> I have no friends
1146<Rhetorical> What do?
1147<Teruzi> whatchu got Chrono?
1148<Teruzi> well Rhet
1149<Chrono|Sick> hire an escort
1150<Teruzi> easy asnwer
1151<Chrono|Sick> headcold
1152<Teruzi> get a date
1153<Teruzi> duh
1154<Rhetorical> Hire an escort
1155<Rhetorical> To attend my friends Halloween party
1156<Chrono|Sick> got the seepy nose, weepy eyes & sore throat deal
1157<Rhetorical> My friend
1158<Thalia> I don't answer Rhetorical questions
1159<Rhetorical> that I know from church
1160<Rhetorical> :
1161<Rhetorical> |
1162<@Glernaj> Do it.
1163<Silent_Oracle> lol
1164<Rhetorical> Thalia pls
1165<Silent_Oracle> awkward
1166<Teruzi> literally
1167<Teruzi> the best idea
1168<ErrantVagrant> Rhet: Invite me!
1169<Teruzi> do it Rhet
1170<Teruzi> be subversive
1171<ErrantVagrant> Let me get the entrails.
1172<Silent_Oracle> wait
1173<Silent_Oracle> when's halloween?
1174<Silent_Oracle> what month is this?
1175<Chrono|Sick> like 32 days from now
1176<Rhetorical> October 31
1177<Rhetorical> The party is the 17th, though
1178<@Glernaj> Do you not have any other friends to bring with you Rhet? Or for that matter, do you even feel the need to bring one?
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1181<Rhetorical> Not really
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1183<Rhetorical> I think it's back in Bastrop
1184<@Glernaj> To which question?
1185<Rhetorical> Both
1186<@Glernaj> Gotcha
1187<Thalia> Rhetorical, bring one of us on Skype video chat.
1188<@Glernaj> Thalia, there's a few of us that are actually close enough to show up in person.
1189<Thalia> Even better!
1190<ErrantVagrant> I am thankful that I never have to worry about any of you doing that.
1191<Rhetorical> Heh
1192<@Glernaj> So Rhet, we're talking open bar, right? :P
1193<Rhetorical> Um
1194<Rhetorical> Church party
1195<Chrono|Sick> There are a few groups of us
1196<Silent_Oracle> oh god
1197<@Glernaj> ...
1198<Rhetorical> So....
1199<Rhetorical> Yeah
1200<Teruzi> OH MAn
1201<@Glernaj> so... wine?
1202<Teruzi> invite meeee
1203<Chrono|Sick> The Canadians (Wilbur, Brute and myself)
1204<Teruzi> I'm great at parties
1205<Teruzi> I swear
1206<Chrono|Sick> The Deep South (Anti's clan)
1207<Rhetorical> Tuzi would be a perfect date for me
1208<ErrantVagrant> ...
1209<ErrantVagrant> When you say that Teruzi
1210<Teruzi> I really would
1211<Teruzi> I'm a perfect date to most everyone though
1212<Chrono|Sick> And then the line of 'em that connect like nyc to texas
1213<Chrono|Sick> all along the coast
1214<Teruzi> so it's not really surprising
1215<Teruzi> :D
1216<ErrantVagrant> It makes me afraid.
1217<Rhetorical> Ooh, that's the day of the Alabama game
1218<Rhetorical> Hmm
1219<Teruzi> aw EV, I'm actually good at church parties!
1220<Teruzi> the old ladies love me
1221<Rhetorical> I fear the young ladies would be wasted on you, though
1222<ErrantVagrant> The way you say that only scares me more.
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1224<ErrantVagrant> Meanwhile, I would just dress up as Slenderman and stand in the corner, unmoving
1225<Teruzi> hardly
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1227<Teruzi> they would have fun as well
1228<Teruzi> but there's a small risk
1229<Teruzi> that I might waste the young men
1230<ErrantVagrant> Small risk.
1231<Chrono|Sick> tuzi
1232<Teruzi> yeah?
1233<Chrono|Sick> I don't know what I was gonna say
1234<Chrono|Sick> carry on
1235<Teruzi> ha ha
1236<Chrono|Sick> I fear my wits are slipping in my fever
1237<Teruzi> s'okay
1238<ErrantVagrant> To be fair, Teruzi has yet to be deported, therefore is still a viable choice.
1239<Teruzi> well I mean, I don't even live in the US
1240<Teruzi> hard for me to be deported
1241<Rhetorical> True
1242<Rhetorical> Don't underestimate Border Patrol, though
1243<Rhetorical> :P
1244<Chrono|Sick> GM for my new campaign is full of shit
1245<Teruzi> oh wow
1246<Rhetorical> Anyone I know?
1247<Xtree> you know how to pick em Chrono
1248<Teruzi> it's almost like a trend!
1249<Silent_Oracle> what happened?
1250<Chrono|Sick> no idea what any of the shop prices are; giving me disadvantage for the session's combat
1251<Chrono|Sick> hes never GM'd before, so I'm cutting a lot of slack but its still an issue
1252<Xtree> I know of very few GMs who have shop prices memorized
1253<Xtree> thats what the book is for
1254<Chrono|Sick> but when we had the book out
1255<Chrono|Sick> and go "Arrows are 20 for 1gp"
1256<keyonte0> Very balanced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUrxLgyvw0M
1257<Chrono|Sick> He goes "The guy is charging 200gp for 40 and a quiver"
1258<Teruzi> I see
1259<Silent_Oracle> that quiver is ridiculously awesome
1260<Silent_Oracle> that's the reason
1261<Teruzi> look Chrono as always
1262<Xtree> are you kidding
1263<Chrono|Sick> He gave us a flying carpet at third level
1264<Xtree> just rob him
1265<Teruzi> open communication is the key to a healthy (RP) relationship
1266<Xtree> he must be loaded
1267<Teruzi> ^
1268<Chrono|Sick> He gave me disadvantage all day for going "Okay, you gave the Ranger a Pseudodragon for her class levels, I don't have an issue with that"
1269<Chrono|Sick> "But when you say its a Familiar, that has fundamental, functional differences from an Animal Companion"
1270<Silent_Oracle> what does that mean, exactly?
1271<%JENTHULHU> "I'm thinking of getting a spiked collar to show off my personality.  It makes a statement like... 'Attach a leash to me and take me for a walk please.'"
1272<Xtree> it means "I hate you"
1273<@Mishie> Teruzi: ur a shit
1274<@Mishie> ;0
1275<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krXCS/3a5aa58764.png
1276<Chrono|Sick> Ranger went "Yo pseudodargons are super fuckin' cool can I have one for my Animal Compaion"
1277<@Clarvel> PROGRESSS
1278<Teruzi> Mishie is that why you slap my butt so hard
1279<@Mishie> ;)
1280<Teruzi> is it because I'm bad
1281<Chrono|Sick> DM goes "Yo yea sure"
1282<@Clarvel> JENTHULHU: somehow I don't see that as you
1283<Chrono|Sick> I'm considering taking over and running Pathfinder
1284<Chrono|Sick> hostile takeover
1285<Xtree> thats a good agenda
1286<Chrono|Sick> Oh, and hes having players roll Persuasion against each other
1287<Chrono|Sick> instead of, you know
1288<Xtree> report back when you do it
1289<Rhetorical> :|
1290<Chrono|Sick> talking it out like reasonable human beings
1291<Rhetorical> Numbers > roleplaying
1292<Chrono|Sick> (or 1/2elfs or whatever)
1293<Teruzi> woow
1294<Mazin2> There's a point where you just lean forward on the table and go "Ok. What the fuck is your problem"
1295<Teruzi> speciest pirck
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1297<Teruzi> specist?
1298<@Clarvel> WHO WANTS TO SEE PURPLE HIGHLIGHTS
1299<Teruzi> speciesist?
1300<Teruzi> I do!
1301<Silent_Oracle> speciest
1302<Chrono|Sick> Is it when gm hands out a carpet that can fly
1303<Teruzi> alright, that
1304<Xtree> "roll to see if you agree with me"
1305<Teruzi> half-elfs are people too
1306<Xtree> hey flying carpets are awesome
1307<Chrono|Sick> and calls it a "Magic Carpet"
1308<Chrono|Sick> (it can fly)
1309<Chrono|Sick> and when someone goes "So a Flying Carpet" => "no"
1310<Chrono|Sick> "...Carpet of Flying, right. 5e."
1311<Chrono|Sick> "...No. Magic Carpet."
1312<@Clarvel> (one sec)
1313<Chrono|Sick> (It still only flies. Weighs 45lbs for some reason. Can only carry 400+self in weight)
1314<Xtree> heh I never name magic items
1315<Xtree> ever
1316<Xtree> as a GM I mean
1317<Chrono|Sick> mnhmn, same.
1318<Chrono|Sick> I describe effects, and the players usually whip up something good for it
1319<Xtree> as a player "oh yeah this is definitely a shovel of dwarfness"
1320<Teruzi> the true secret of GMing
1321<Teruzi> is getting the players to do all your work for you
1322<Xtree> yesss
1323<Chrono|Sick> the true secret of GMing
1324<Chrono|Sick> is winging the shit out of it
1325<Xtree> noooo
1326<Chrono|Sick> then taking nowhere near enough notes
1327<Xtree> that's not a secret at all
1328<Chrono|Sick> and finagling a world out of it
1329<Xtree> that's plan A
1330<Xtree> you can tell that's plan A by asking everyone what their name is
1331<Xtree> and then watch the GM sweat out a name
1332<Chrono|Sick> I'm pretty great with names, though.
1333<Silent_Oracle> that seems mean
1334<Xtree> its tradition
1335<Chrono|Sick> (And that doesn't work on text-based set-ups)
1336<Teruzi> I just go with vague things like
1337<Teruzi> "the dude with the sacar"
1338<Teruzi> *scar
1339<@Clarvel> Teruzi: http://puu.sh/krXXW/9497b936cc.png
1340• Chrono|Sick: points at Epoch
1341<@Clarvel> white was better
1342<Teruzi> "the first lady"
1343<Teruzi> alright, Clarv
1344<Xtree> "greetings noble lady, what is your name?"
1345<Chrono|Sick> "Lefty, Righty, Scar, Redhead, Brunette"
1346<Teruzi> at risk of looking idiotic
1347<Silent_Oracle> what're you running, clarvel?
1348<Teruzi> what am I looking at Clarv?
1349<Xtree> you're looking at a computer screen
1350<Teruzi> Well, you make them roll social then Xtree
1351<@Clarvel> "./ppm example.txt"
1352<Chrono|Sick> boobs
1353<Chrono|Sick> But yeah
1354<@Clarvel> you're looking at spheres
1355<Xtree> aw I hate rolling
1356<Teruzi> I didn't ask -at what-
1357<Teruzi> I'm asking what
1358<@Clarvel> that are lit by a light source
1359<Chrono|Sick> Persuasion whenever someone goes "The carpet isn't ours to take"
1360<Xtree> I hate rolling in combat
1361<Teruzi> oooh ok
1362<Chrono|Sick> So obviously, I've got 20 Cha, and am playing a Lore Bard.
1363<Chrono|Sick> +9 Persuasion @ 3rd level
1364<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/krY39/1e38bbe2f4.png
1365<Xtree> too often do sessions devolve into whoever can roll the higher number rather than what is going on
1366<@Clarvel> is the input file
1367<Teruzi> I understand nothing
1368<Teruzi> but it looks neat!
1369<Teruzi> also it has shadows
1370<@Mishie> [13:09]    Teruzi  at risk of looking idiotic
1371<Teruzi> story of my life Mishie
1372<@Clarvel> Teruzi: for one of my classes we have to build a rendering engine
1373<Chrono|Sick> I'll probably have to do that at some point
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1375<@Clarvel> input a text file describing the scene, output an image of the scene
1376<Teruzi> cool
1377<Chrono|Sick> next few months, if not next year
1378<Chrono|Sick> (I'm in a Game Development program)
1379<@Clarvel> CSCI with focus on AI/Robotice
1380<@Clarvel> 'focus'
1381<@Clarvel> would have taken most of the classes anyway
1382<Teruzi> *swoons*
1383<Teruzi> not even joking
1384<@Clarvel> tuz
1385<Xtree> you had me at rendering engine
1386<Teruzi> :D
1387<@Clarvel> yer swooning over nerd cred
1388<Chrono|Sick> b/c we're all huge nerds in here
1389<Teruzi> I swoon over any cred baby
1390<Teruzi> I'm an equal opportunity swooner
1391<@Clarvel> pedo-cred
1392<Xtree> we were just discussing D&D like 5 minutes ago
1393<Chrono|Sick> okay but Collection cred it is best shit
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1395<Chrono|Sick> we were collectively bitching about Gregg, Dungeon Master of Lacking Ability.
1396<Teruzi> yeah, yeah
1397<Teruzi> lets go back on ripping the new GM
1398<Chrono|Sick> and his gross inability to accept critique from someone with more experience with the system
1399<Teruzi> literally first time GMing
1400<Teruzi> a new one
1401<Xtree> giving disadvantage for terrible reasons is pretty shit though
1402<Teruzi> and let us talk fondly of people that believe on overuling a GM
1403<Silent_Oracle> you give newbies a chance, I think
1404<Chrono|Sick> I cannot give a shit he uses active perception when he should have our passive
1405<Xtree> everything else is forgivable
1406<Silent_Oracle> o...kay?
1407<Teruzi> to be fair Chrono who even uses passive perception
1408<Chrono|Sick> I can't give a toss he modulates the AC of skelletons between rounds
1409<Xtree> thats just being a new GM though
1410<Teruzi> who even cares there's two types
1411<Silent_Oracle> some of us don't really know or care about what that is, chrono
1412<Teruzi> also if he's a new GM
1413<Teruzi> why in the flying fuck
1414<Teruzi> did you went with a half-dragon
1415<Chrono|Sick> Its when I go "Alright, but there is a proper way to do it"
1416<Teruzi> whatchamacallit?
1417<Chrono|Sick> and he punishes me for it
1418<Teruzi> couldn't run a simple dwarf
1419<Teruzi> nooooo
1420<Xtree> I had a zombie whose AC went up as parts of him got hacked off
1421<Chrono|Sick> I'm a 1/2 Elf Bard
1422<Teruzi> oh ok
1423<Chrono|Sick> 1) Thats fucking awesome
1424<Teruzi> and yeah, sounds pretty fun
1425<Teruzi> "need the edge in this fight"
1426<Teruzi> *hacks one arm off*
1427<Chrono|Sick> beat them with the arm
1428<Xtree> he was a biter anyway
1429<Chrono|Sick> knock his teef out
1430<Xtree> actually no, he would throw the littlest party members
1431<Xtree> grab n' chuck
1432<Chrono|Sick> yes good
1433<Chrono|Sick> The Good Ol' Hurl & Knurl
1434<Xtree> lots of GMs fuck up stats though
1435<Xtree> if I don't have that shit written down, and I don't ahve the page bookmarked in the MM, the AC defaults to 14 every time
1436<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, its inexperience.
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1438<Chrono|Sick> But when he is actively punishing my character for me as a person after the thing going "Familiars use a different system than Animal Companions"
1439<Silent_Oracle> are you sure that it's intentionally malicious?
1440<Xtree> it doesn't have to be intentional for it to be bad
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1442<Xtree> even an imagined vendetta is poisonous to the fun of the game
1443<Silent_Oracle> true
1444<Silent_Oracle> I'm just saying
1445<Silent_Oracle> not to go too far in the first session
1446<Silent_Oracle> talk about it
1447<Silent_Oracle> shit
1448<Silent_Oracle> I don't know
1449<Xtree> I mean it's a terrible reason for giving disadvantage, if that's the reason he gave
1450<Silent_Oracle> hug
1451<Chrono|Sick> We've had 3 sessions so far
1452<Silent_Oracle> okay, well I heard it was his first time so...
1453<Chrono|Sick> leveled up after the first, and halfway through the second
1454<Chrono|Sick> This Campaign is his first time
1455<Silent_Oracle> maybe try and talk to him about some of the thingsL
1456<Silent_Oracle> *?
1457<Xtree> thats a good idea
1458<Chrono|Sick> I don't want to come off as "Heres how to do a campaign" either
1459<Chrono|Sick> So I'll proably be low-key slipping in help when he asks, and every once & a while
1460<Chrono|Sick> since he seems so opposed for direct corrections
1461<Silent_Oracle> maybe talk to the other players
1462<Chrono|Sick> Only one other player has any experience
1463<Silent_Oracle> have you stated these corrections while the game is running?
1464<Chrono|Sick> Not mid-round, but we do 4 hour sessions, yeah.
1465<Teruzi> I dunno Chrono, I would let him do whatever
1466<Teruzi> then do as you said, offer help when he asks
1467<Silent_Oracle> it can't be fun to be told you're doing something wrong
1468<Teruzi> 'cause otherwise it sounds aggravating as fuck
1469<Silent_Oracle> in the middle of a session
1470<Teruzi> that you're GMing ofr first time and a player keeps telling you you're doing it wrong
1471<Chrono|Sick> I can see that, yeah
1472<Teruzi> it just seems really really annoying
1473<Teruzi> so like, offer help on the background
1474<Teruzi> and let them do whatever
1475<Teruzi> unless it's shit like 200g quivers or whatever
1476<Silent_Oracle> I told you
1477<Silent_Oracle> those are damn good quivers
1478<Silent_Oracle> :P
1479<Chrono|Sick> or 1500gp rings of Spell Storing (only 4 levels tho)
1480<Silent_Oracle> made of dragon leather or something
1481<Chrono|Sick> Went halfsies on that with the Sorcerer
1482<Chrono|Sick> They can hold 40 arrows!
1483<Chrono|Sick> (which is twice as many as the Ranger's current quiver. Apparently.)
1484<Chrono|Sick> And 4500GP for the Blacksmith to "Improve your armor by 1 AC"
1485<Xtree> o_o
1486<Silent_Oracle> whoa
1487<Chrono|Sick> And a Blood-Dagger that heals you by as much as you deal with it
1488<Chrono|Sick> that was out of the price range, don't recall exactly what
1489<Chrono|Sick> So as it stands, I'm trying to convince the Fighter (who grabbed the carpet) to sell it, get everyone enchanted armor & swords
1490<Chrono|Sick> Nearest one is slightly better at 35,000gp, so I'll try to sell it around 30,000
1491<Teruzi> I mean, I dunno
1492<Teruzi> do you need enchanted armor and swrods?
1493<Teruzi> *swords
1494<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, we're all using starter gear
1495<Teruzi> it sounds like the GM is trying to curb out that kind of things, while they get more familiar with this GMing
1496<Chrono|Sick> Actually, the Fighter just got a flamesword deal
1497<Teruzi> that the GM provided?
1498<Chrono|Sick> +1d4 fire, and +2 on Dmg
1499<Chrono|Sick> Yeah, bought it
1500<Teruzi> alright, so let the GM give you better equipment
1501<Teruzi> and unless you're going against a dragon with a quiver of uh
1502<Teruzi> 20 arrows
1503<Teruzi> don't worry too much about it
1504<Chrono|Sick> Hes been talking about dragons and tbh I'm afraid
1505<Teruzi> what's the story so far, anyways?
1506<Chrono|Sick> Met in a Bar Fight, 5Gnomes/Nobles/Elves/Dorfs showed up, nobles start shit, everyone else is dead/btfu
1507<Chrono|Sick> Party groups up, turns out it isn't a bar, actually guild-hall
1508<Teruzi> I ... see
1509<Chrono|Sick> Owner (Tilia) comes in yelling "Go do the thing! Kill the gobs harassing trade"
1510<Chrono|Sick> A contract is involved, we come back after a short trip (involving a "Stone of Returning")
1511<Teruzi> alright, standard RP shit so far
1512<Chrono|Sick> Get paid off, she asks us to deal with some undead in a house
1513<Teruzi> classic
1514<Chrono|Sick> Go up to house, "wtf is going on in here"
1515<Chrono|Sick> skellettes and a few ghouls burst through walls
1516<Chrono|Sick> slaughter ensues
1517<Teruzi> they're a goddamn plague I tell you
1518<Chrono|Sick> Party takes maybe 4 damage the whole time, come back
1519<Teruzi> ha ha
1520<Chrono|Sick> "Hey, go deal with bandits asking for protection money up in the city"
1521<Chrono|Sick> (before this we haven't been able to buy equipment"
1522<Chrono|Sick> whole party sets up, flies the fuck up there, kits up
1523<Chrono|Sick> end of session 3
1524<Teruzi> well you don't need equipment, silly
1525<Teruzi> you took 4 damage in total against a house full of baddies
1526<Teruzi> :|
1527<Chrono|Sick> 1/2 the party is greviously over-powered (Ranger, to an extent, Fighter & myself)
1528<Chrono|Sick> and 1/4 is entirely gimped
1529<Chrono|Sick> We did 4d6 drop lowest, and some got 12,18,16,14,14,20
1530<Chrono|Sick> some got 12,15,11,8,13,14
1531<Teruzi> ow
1532<Teruzi> that 20 tho
1533<Chrono|Sick> Rogue's Dex and my Charisma
1534<Teruzi> absolutely disgusting
1535<Chrono|Sick> correct
1536<Teruzi> and you want enchanted armor
1537<Teruzi> you greedy fuck
1538<Chrono|Sick> No I mean
1539<Xtree> 4d6 drop lowest oh god
1540<Chrono|Sick> Get /everyone/ armor
1541<Chrono|Sick> Because the monk is getting the shit stabbed out of himself, and the Cleric isn't having a good time either
1542<Xtree> you're gonna wreck everything with those stats
1543<Teruzi> ^
1544<Teruzi> if anything, the weaker members should be getting some love
1545<Chrono|Sick> Playing Support for a reason
1546<Teruzi> not the thrio of overpowered fellas
1547<Teruzi> *trio
1548<@Mishie> this is why point buy is a thing
1549<@Mishie> :|
1550<Chrono|Sick> Going for the Inspiring Leader feat next level
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1552<Chrono|Sick> Temp HP for all
1553<Teruzi> hooray
1554<Quanfinigon> I was in a game a few years ago someone rolled 3 18s and nothing lower than 11
1555<Teruzi> rolling for stats can be silly
1556<Thalia> Quanfinigon, I've done that too. It was awesome.
1557<Quanfinigon> he played a cleric and we decided to not have a fighter type
1558<Quanfinigon> so he had to be the front line
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1560<Quanfinigon> unequal stats can be a boon for the whole group if you play it well
1561<Thalia> Mine was Last Airbender and I was a Firebender. Starting level 5, 4 18s, 15, 11
1562<Chrono|Sick> When your stats average out to 15.66, you start taking a lot of feats.
1563<Thalia> I shot a lot of lightning...
1564<ErrantVagrant> My body can't decide if it's tired and passing out or wide awake.
1565<Chrono|Sick> same!
1566• Rhetorical: pokes EV
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1568<Peng> Mine finally just decided on passing out :X
1569<Silent_Oracle> what has?
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1571<Chrono|Sick> meat-body'
1572<ErrantVagrant> GAH
1573<Silent_Oracle> jesus
1574<Silent_Oracle> do some of you have work or school that keeps you up at such ungodly hours?
1575<Rhetorical> Just bad sleeping habits, here
1576<Rhetorical> All natural
1577<ErrantVagrant> I recently stopped a polyphasic sleep schedule, and my body seems to be angry with me about it.
1578<Silent_Oracle> ...
1579<Silent_Oracle> that sounds like something from star trek
1580<Silent_Oracle> explain, please
1581<Teruzi> well yes Silent
1582<Rhetorical> Sleeping 20 minutes every few hours, I think
1583<Teruzi> sometimes work happens just at this time of the night
1584<Teruzi> or morning
1585<Rhetorical> Depending on which schedule
1586<Silent_Oracle> true, I guess
1587<Chrono|Sick> I'm p fucking sick
1588<ErrantVagrant> I would sleep for 15-20 minutes at a time several times throughout the day.
1589<Silent_Oracle> and does that actually help you?
1590<Rhetorical> Supposedly it allows you to get all the different phases of sleep without spending a third of your life asleep
1591<ErrantVagrant> I'd go for about three hours of sleep a day, feeling extremely energized.
1592<Teruzi> EV is that doable?
1593<Teruzi> I've tried before but
1594<Silent_Oracle> I'm pretty sure you aren't even entering deep sleep in just 20 minutes
1595<Teruzi> I van only reduce it to four hours
1596<Teruzi> *can
1597<Teruzi> and my brain feels angry with me
1598<Teruzi> you can train the body to enter REM, suposedly,  Silent
1599<Teruzi> that's the whole point of the 20 minute schedule, I believe
1600<ErrantVagrant> It's doable, but it took me about a month to get down to four, then about a year to three hours.
1601<Silent_Oracle> hmm
1602<Rhetorical> But a lot of the research shows that eventually, most people get symptoms typical of sleep deprivation
1603<Silent_Oracle> well, I'm largely apathetic, so...
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1605<Silent_Oracle> seems easier just to sleep the 8 or so hours
1606<Teruzi> I think four is doable
1607<Silent_Oracle> *shrug*
1608<Rhetorical> But all that wasted time, S_O
1609<Teruzi> and just sleep another hour on the afternoon
1610<Teruzi> a ndelicious nap
1611<ErrantVagrant> Eventually I got to the point where I'd be able to switch to a "normal" sleep schedule for a day or two and then back with no problems.
1612<Teruzi> it's time you could waste in the internet!
1613<Chrono|Sick> EV confimred sleepwizard
1614<Teruzi> no time to sleep, need more cat pictures
1615<Silent_Oracle> until the day that the fancy-ass no sleep cybernetics come out
1616<Silent_Oracle> I'm not gonna try and change my cycles so much just to save time
1617<ErrantVagrant> I like tabletop roleplaying, my groups typically play until the wee hours of the morn.
1618<ErrantVagrant> I work during the day, and during the evenings people want to do stuff with me.
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1620<Silent_Oracle> every evening?
1621<ErrantVagrant> For me, it was the easiest way to balence my life.
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1623<ErrantVagrant> Well, no, not every evening.
1624<ErrantVagrant> Some evenings I waste on Reddit or playing vidya games.
1625<Teruzi> to be honest, eight hours every day seems almost excessive at times
1626<Teruzi> what are you
1627<Teruzi> a cat?
1628<Silent_Oracle> ...
1629<Silent_Oracle> no comment
1630<ErrantVagrant> But my best friend, as well as folks here, convinced me that it was probably making my health issues worse.
1631<Teruzi> oh yeah
1632<Teruzi> wait yes
1633<Teruzi> what the fuck EV I didn't even think about that
1634<Silent_Oracle> wat
1635<ErrantVagrant> Huh?
1636<Silent_Oracle> jesus christ
1637<Silent_Oracle> sleep is /important/. you need it
1638<Silent_Oracle> if you're getting sicker and sicker, something wrong
1639<ErrantVagrant> I hate sleep, but my body disagrees with me.
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1641<Silent_Oracle> try melatonin
1642<ErrantVagrant> I'm hoping in a few more days, it'll get the hang of this sleep all night thing again.
1643<Silent_Oracle> I hope so too
1644<Silent_Oracle> shouldn't run your meatbag into the ground like that
1645<ErrantVagrant> On the plus side, I seem to finally be getting over my walking pneumonia?  :D
1646<Silent_Oracle> hold on
1647<Silent_Oracle> I need to find a gif
1648<Teruzi> hooray
1649<Teruzi> really SO, it's not always bad to sleep less than eight hours
1650• Clarvel: hugifies tuz
1651<@Clarvel> you are not a hug
1652<@Clarvel> now
1653• Teruzi: pats Clarvel
1654<Teruzi> I refuse to bow to you limitations
1655<Silent_Oracle> I'm not saying that you need to sleep eight hours
1656<Teruzi> well it sounds like it
1657<@Clarvel> :(
1658<Silent_Oracle> I'm saying that if you're getting sick (or have been sick), what the hell are you doing trying to limit the amount of sleep that your body needs to function?
1659<@Clarvel> last time I was majorly sick was on a latin overnight field trip in highschool
1660<@Clarvel> I was miserable from the end of day one till day 2
1661<ErrantVagrant> I know, I know.  That's why I'm trying to get back on a more normal sleep schedule.
1662<Silent_Oracle> well
1663<@Clarvel> when I finally got home I slept on the couch for 14 hrs
1664<Silent_Oracle> at least you're trying
1665<Silent_Oracle> that's good
1666<@Clarvel> there was no try
1667<@Clarvel> I sat down
1668<@Clarvel> closed my eyes for a moment
1669<@Clarvel> woke up, had a blanket on me
1670<@Clarvel> and no longer felt like I was dying
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1672<ErrantVagrant> Normally, I don't get sick.  Maybe once a year I get a minor cold.
1673<ErrantVagrant> This was the first time I've been actual sick in almost 20 years.
1674<Teruzi> to be honest, if EV didn't think it was messing with his health, I think the weird sleep schedule is fine
1675<Teruzi> as long as he's functional
1676<Silent_Oracle> eh, I could agree with that
1677<Silent_Oracle> I've heard of people who do such
1678<Rhetorical> I'd say if EV's doctor didn't think it was messing with his health, it'd be fine
1679<Silent_Oracle> that's a good point
1680<ErrantVagrant> ...Admittedly, my doctors have made frowny faces at me in the past.
1681<Silent_Oracle> if you have one, talk to your doctor
1682<Silent_Oracle> or just have regular checkups
1683<ErrantVagrant> I'm currently seeing several specialists.
1684soulpelt| is now known as soulpelt|sleep
1685<Teruzi> EV is a special boy
1686<Chrono|Sick> short bus special or ambulance special
1687<Rhetorical> Yes
1688<Ryuugi> https://forums.spacebattles.com/posts/19090094/
1689<ErrantVagrant> A little of one...
1690<ErrantVagrant> Doing good Ryuugi
1691<Ryuugi> ?
1692<ErrantVagrant> Your update rate is good.
1693<ErrantVagrant> Sadly, I'm not familiar with either fandom, so I don't actually read it when you post updates.  Sorry.
1694<Teruzi> Ryuugi is like the sunrise
1695<Teruzi> never late
1696<Teruzi> or something
1697<Teruzi> I lost the sentence somwhere
1698<Chrono|Sick> Reliable, but'll burn your eyes if you look too close
1699<Ryuugi> I come. And then, much later, I come again.
1700<Ryuugi> Might have lost that analogy somewhere.
1701<ErrantVagrant> I'll get you a towel.  XD
1702<Thalia> Don't forget to bring a towel!
1703<Rhetorical> Ryuugi confirmed not a hoopy frood
1704<@Wildbow> Twig is live.
1705<Teruzi> oh cool
1706<Teruzi> the bleedout
1707<Chrono|Sick> Monstrously, god-hatingly, alive.
1708<Silent_Oracle> god. I have two more stories to read after I finish worm...
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1710<ErrantVagrant> Yaaay Twig!
1711<@Wildbow> You misspelled 'yay', S_O
1712<Silent_Oracle> oh, I'm happy about it
1713<@Wildbow> It's 1am, but I gotta go walk those dogs
1714<Silent_Oracle> it's just, I still haven't finished worm
1715<@Wildbow> brb
1716<Silent_Oracle> you're gonna be old and 20 books in
1717<Silent_Oracle> and I'm gonna be only halfway through twig
1718<Pink> depending on the book size he might already be 20 in
1719<Silent_Oracle> not in terms of individual stories, though
1720• Teller: Twigs.
1721<Teruzi> yeah Teller
1722<Teruzi> you might
1723<Teruzi> you might wanna drink something strong
1724• Teller: looks into the abyss, sober and unflinching.
1725<Teruzi> I meant like
1726<Teruzi> bleach
1727<Teruzi> but ok
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1729<%JENTHULHU> okay
1730<%JENTHULHU> this boss
1731<%JENTHULHU> is a shonen hero fishwoman knight
1732<Teruzi> eh
1733<Teruzi> ?
1734<%JENTHULHU> an Undertale boss
1735<Teruzi> oh yeah
1736<Teruzi> oh hey look
1737<Teruzi> you got internet again
1738<Teruzi> hooray
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1741• JENTHULHU: takes secret panty shots of Teruzi
1742<Teruzi> jokes on you
1743<Teruzi> I have no panties on
1744<@Wildbow> Yeah, the white fabric-looking stuff is a fungal skin condition.
1745<Teruzi> yes, it's very serious
1746<Teruzi> hey 'Bow!}
1747<Teruzi> I read your thing
1748<Teruzi> it was pretty ok, but I kinda felt the very real, very good tension kinda went out with the banter
1749<Teruzi> which I suppose was the intention
1750<Teruzi> so good job?
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1752<Teruzi> great fight tho
1753<Teruzi> :D
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1755• Clarvel: grafts a 5th eye onto Teruzi
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1757<RidtomZZZ> Hey guys and gals
1758<Teruzi> yo
1759RidtomZZZ is now known as Ridtom
1760<Ridtom> Hi Teruzi
1761<Teruzi> also I guess it's a fifth eye 'cause I have glasses?
1762<Teruzi> how observant of you
1763<%JENTHULHU> no
1764<%JENTHULHU> it's a fifth eye because it is eye #5
1765<@Wildbow> Hi Tormid.
1766<Ridtom> Hi Jen
1767<Ridtom> Hi Bildwow
1768<%JENTHULHU> Clarvel just skipped Eyes 3 and 4
1769<Teruzi> gotcha
1770<@Clarvel> wht JENTHULHU dais, but I didnt skip any
1771<Ridtom> Bow when are you going to make a Lillian Web-novel? I'll give you, like, /all/ of my old Chuck-E-Cheese tokens
1772<ErrantVagrant> Dude, take up that offer!
1773<Ridtom> She's just so adorably awkward
1774<Ridtom> Welp, more good news: finished rough draft of the original story idea I had. A nice, below average 1500 words
1775<Teruzi> Ridtom, baby
1776<Teruzi> it's not the lenght of the work
1777<Teruzi> it's what you do with it
1778<Ridtom> Eeey
1779<@Clarvel> or the number of eyes
1780<Ridtom> ...ey?
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1782<@Clarvel> [00:26] Clarvel grafts a 5th eye onto Teruzi
1783<ErrantVagrant> Can I lick it?
1784<Ridtom> I didn't realize Teruzi was Tien
1785<@Clarvel> no, tuz only has 2
1786<Teruzi> plus one
1787<@Clarvel> I keep having to replace them
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1790<Teruzi> speaking of eyes
1791<Teruzi> and replacements
1792<Teruzi> sup Vern
1793<Teruzi> how's the eyelid?
1794<VereorPirate> Yarrr
1795<Thalia> Yarr!
1796<VereorPirate> It's better, but kinda not
1797<ErrantVagrant> Yar!
1798<VereorPirate> It's healing but still not at the level I'd he comfortable with walking to school with.
1799<Silent_Oracle> what'd you do?
1800<Rhetorical> Angered a demon
1801<Silent_Oracle> bad move
1802<Teruzi> you should see the other guy
1803<VereorPirate> I decided to become blind, you noisy oracle. :p
1804<VereorPirate> ^
1805<Rhetorical> "Silent"
1806<Rhetorical> :P
1807<Silent_Oracle> it's a good career path. I can definitely say that it made the business more legit if you don't have eyes to see
1808<Silent_Oracle> and, you can say "where we're going, we won't /need/ eyes"
1809<Silent_Oracle> so, that's a plus too
1810<Silent_Oracle> ... I think I can hear the groans of disappointment from here
1811<VereorPirate> Huh, uh, sorry, I'm actually trying to make myself a cappuccino without my right eye helping my depth perception
1812<VereorPirate> I managed to waste like two cups already
1813<ErrantVagrant> :|
1814<Silent_Oracle> that's a damn shame
1815<VereorPirate> Yeah
1816<VereorPirate> That's nothijg to say about the red arm now that I poured hot water over it twice.
1817<VereorPirate> If it wasn't for autocorrect I couldn't even type correctly on this thing
1818<Silent_Oracle> *facepalm*
1819<Silent_Oracle> you really screwed up your eye, didn't you?
1820<VereorPirate> No, dear
1821<VereorPirate> That was nature
1822<VereorPirate> Nature screwed up my eye
1823<VereorPirate> But this is a game in which only the fittest survive, so I'll deal.
1824<Silent_Oracle> did you walk into a tree, or did the squirrels get you?
1825<VereorPirate> No, I stepped out of the shower and suddenly had an infection in my eye
1826<VereorPirate> Only two days after the hot water was fixed, and the repairmen from the landlord doing their work
1827<VereorPirate> I guess the must've fucked something up
1828<Silent_Oracle> wow
1829<Silent_Oracle> that sucks
1830<VereorPirate> Yeah
1831<VereorPirate> But they, thinking positively
1832<VereorPirate> At least I don't have both eyes infected
1833<Silent_Oracle> true
1834<Teruzi> yet
1835<Silent_Oracle> get well soon
1836<VereorPirate> I'll try
1837<VereorPirate> If I go blind
1838<VereorPirate> You know where to find me
1839<VereorPirate> At least I hope so, because I wouldn't know
1840<Silent_Oracle> they have cybernetic eyes
1841<Silent_Oracle> you'll be fine
1842<Silent_Oracle> or you can get some nifty glasses
1843<Silent_Oracle> but they have to drill a hole in your head to run the wire to your brain
1844<VereorPirate> Uhh
1845<Silent_Oracle> don't worry
1846<VereorPirate> I prefer to remain organic
1847<Silent_Oracle> they've been doing this since the 1900s
1848<Silent_Oracle> I'm sure they won't screw up
1849<VereorPirate> Stiiiiill
1850<VereorPirate> I don't trust German doctors
1851<Silent_Oracle> you could be like jensen, dude
1852<@Nae> *Major
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1854<Bruticus> Ask the one Japanese doctor at the German hospital
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1856<Bruticus> He's probably pretty nice
1857<Teruzi> why wouldn't you trust german doctors, that's silly
1858<VereorPirate> I don't like the Japanese one either
1859<VereorPirate> He's strange
1860<Teruzi> so picky
1861<VereorPirate> For that matter, the Turkish one is even worse
1862<ErrantVagrant> Awww, but if you go cyborg, you might get to date a lovely AI!
1863<Thalia> Indian?
1864<VereorPirate> The Indian is cool, but not a surgeon
1865<Bruticus> Damn it, I was making a reference
1866<Teruzi> no one reads Monster
1867<Teruzi> is a darned shame
1868<Bruticus> Ehhhh Tuzi got it
1869• VereorPirate: also got it,  but the hospitals in Berlin are full of doctors and nurses of every nationality
1870<VereorPirate> Because nothing says multiculturalism more  than being treated by a Muslim doctor, brought food by a German nurse and get your papers brought to you by an Asian guy
1871<Silent_Oracle> eh
1872<Silent_Oracle> I can never tell ethnicities anymore
1873<@Nae> needs African to complete the circle
1874<Silent_Oracle> I wouldn't notice
1875<Teruzi> you say that like it's bad Vern, really
1876<VereorPirate> Nae: do African patients count?
1877<Teruzi> and you're arab as fuck too
1878<VereorPirate> Teruzi depends on the district
1879<@Nae> yep
1880<ErrantVagrant> Nobody ever hires a mi-go.
1881<VereorPirate> For Example, Marzahn is the most German district in Berlin
1882<VereorPirate> But!
1883<VereorPirate> The Germans there
1884<VereorPirate> Are bigger assholes
1885<Quanfinigon> that makes sense
1886<VereorPirate> Than any immigrant who refuses to adapt
1887<Rhetorical> "Do you get up to the Marzahn district?"
1888<ErrantVagrant> Yeah, I'm familiar with that sort of thing.
1889<Rhetorical> "Oh, what am I saying. Of course you don't."
1890<VereorPirate> There's a comedian here
1891<VereorPirate> Whose name is always the full title, for fun
1892<VereorPirate> Cindy from Marzahn
1893<ErrantVagrant> Dang it, now I suddenly want to play Conspiracy X or Delta Green.
1894• VereorPirate: holds a flash light in front of ErrantVagrant
1895<VereorPirate> There is no war in Ba Sing Se
1896<Rhetorical> We have always been at peace
1897<Bruticus> Wait
1898<Bruticus> Did you finally watch it?
1899Thalia is now known as Thaliaway
1900<ErrantVagrant> ...What?
1901<ErrantVagrant> I watched a couple of eps, but that's it so far.
1902<Bruticus> Was talking to Rhet, because he quoted it
1903<Quanfinigon> Did you get to the part with the big blue guys that connect with the giant tree
1904<ErrantVagrant> Ah sorry.
1905<Teruzi> hush
1906<Teruzi> you're spoiling
1907<ErrantVagrant> I forget who was wanting me to watch.
1908<Bruticus> Probably me
1909<Rhetorical> No
1910<Rhetorical> I was quoting 1984
1911<Rhetorical> :P
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1913<Bruticus> Yeah, that's why
1914<Quanfinigon> I was referencing avatar movie :P
1915<Quanfinigon> was a very poorly done joke
1916<ErrantVagrant> I will say this, though.  You people are slave drivers.
1917<Rhetorical> Hmm?
1918<ErrantVagrant> In the past month, I've been pressured into Avatar, Pratchett, and...  I forget what else because I didn't like or dislike it enough to remember it.
1919<ErrantVagrant> A manga.  I forget what.
1920<Quanfinigon> I hear Worm is good. You should read that
1921<Teller> You remembered Avatar and Pratchett. That'll do.
1922<VereorPirate> ^
1923<VereorPirate> Obviously we need a worm animation with the style of avatar
1924<ErrantVagrant> Yeah, I'm on page 20-something of Guards Guards.
1925<Teruzi> eh Pratchett
1926<Quanfinigon> interesting
1927<Quanfinigon> to me, Guards Guards marks the transition from his early haphazard writing into the later more settled style
1928<Quanfinigon> it's the first of his really good books
1929<ErrantVagrant> I've been told similar, yes.
1930<ErrantVagrant> Honestly, no matter what it's honestly a win-win for me to devote the time to reading it, so yeah, I'm giving it a go.
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1932• VereorPirate: has no money for books
1933• VereorPirate: sits here, twiddling thumbs
1934• VereorPirate: realizes he has not yet watched the new doctor who episode
1935<Rhetorical> Look at the second half of your name
1936<Rhetorical> :|
1937<ErrantVagrant> I was waiting for that.  :)
1938<VereorPirate> Mobile phone reading is shit
1939<VereorPirate> At least, for prolonged time
1940<Quanfinigon> I haven't caught up yet on dr who
1941<Quanfinigon> Last time I was watching I think I'm about 1/3 of the way through the 4th doctor
1942<Teller> I fell off the Who wagon this season.
1943<Teller> I just haven't bothered to watch any of the latest episodes.
1944<ErrantVagrant> Quanfinigon, you'd best be talking about Tom Baker.
1945<Quanfinigon> the one with the scarf
1946<ErrantVagrant> Okay, you're good.
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1948<ErrantVagrant> Otherwise I'd have to strangle you with the scarf and bury you in a shallow grave of jelly babies.
1949<Quanfinigon> did you know the original sonic screwdriver's only purpose was to screw/unscrew actuals screws from a distance?
1950<ErrantVagrant> Yup.  Then things got weird.
1951<Pink> props cost money
1952<Pink> best only have one
1953<Quanfinigon> they probably aren't even using the same prop
1954<ErrantVagrant> In the new who, they ended up using the toys because Smith kept breaking them
1955<Pink> well, now
1956<Pink> I'm talking when they used a police box because that's the only prop they had
1957<Pink> and when every alien planet was the same quarry, when it wasn't a room.
1958<ErrantVagrant> ...hey, that quarry is awesome.
1959<Pink> These days anyone with a cellphone can achieve better production values than the first season of dr. who
1960<Rhetorical> Ah, I forgot
1961<ErrantVagrant> They'd need another $10 to do as good as the Troughton era
1962<Rhetorical> I have cookies!
1963<Quanfinigon> One of my favorite things from the early stuff is how Dr would keep going on about not changing history, then when they get to Trojan War he pretends to be Zeus and directly gives them the idea for buliding a big horse
1964<Quanfinigon> companion even calls him out on it
1965<Pink> technically he didn
1966<Pink> 't CHANGE history
1967<Pink> but yes, history is very flexible as a concept to the guy.
1968<Quanfinigon> still
1969<%JENTHULHU> I think I've got my finger on the pulse of what I think is Undertale's strongest quality
1970<Pink> he's no worse about it than, say, jean luc picard
1971<Pink> jen- matronly cowladies?
1972<Pink> suggestively wiggling jellies?
1973<%JENTHULHU> all the characters, even as goofy as they can be(and some of the characters are quite goofy) are genuine
1974<ErrantVagrant> o_oo
1975<%JENTHULHU> also, I'd argue Toriel is more of a goatlady
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1977<Teruzi> she's more like
1978<Teruzi> a monster
1979<%JENTHULHU> but, like, they don't feel like they're reading from a dramatic script, they feel like they're doing things for reasons, which make sense given their character
1980<Pink> I've not been through the whole thing, but yeah
1981<Pink> It does feel a lot like you're intersecting a bunch of lives.
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1983<ErrantVagrant> Finally passing out.  ciao
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1985<Rhetorical> o/ EV
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1993<krahe> hello everyone
1994<Rhetorical> o/
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1999<+Elara> ayyo
2000<Teller> o/
2001<+Elara> how do Teller?
2002<+Elara> I see Rhet's still alive, what's up boyo?
2003• Teller: is decent.
2004<Teller> How's Elara?
2005<+Elara> 'm ok
2006<+Elara> sorta jobhunting, underslept, overworked...otherwise pretty good
2007<Teller> Overworked, underslept, and jobhunting seems to describe a rapidly increasing number of people I know lately.
2008<+Elara> 1) and 3) are pretty directly linked, at least in my case :P
2009<krahe> is Utena worth to watch?
2010<Teruzi> yes
2011<Teruzi> but be warned is heavy on the symbolism
2012<Teruzi> and kinda slow
2013<Teruzi> also it's hyper shoujo
2014<Teruzi> like
2015<Teruzi> dang man
2016<Teruzi> dem shoulderpads
2017<@Wildbow> Trippy pre-battle music though
2018<@Wildbow> I like to listen to it on occasion.
2019<@Wildbow> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3e2GwpZ7ug
2020<Teruzi> indeed
2021<Teruzi> oh man
2022<Teruzi> blocked in my country
2023<Teruzi> ruuude
2024<krahe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkesnF4dR1w this one?
2025<+Elara> o/ 'Bow
2026<+Elara> you're up late
2027<@Wildbow> Nah, this is usual for me
2028<+Elara> how are you? :)
2029<@Wildbow> Not too bad
2030<Teruzi> to be honest, anything Yuki Kajiura tends to be pretty good
2031<@Wildbow> Is that yuki kajiura?
2032<@Wildbow> I didn't realize
2033<@Wildbow> Thought I'd listened to most YK stuff.
2034<Teruzi> isn't it?
2035<Teruzi> I might be misremembering
2036<Teruzi> hm
2037<Teruzi> lemme check
2038<@Wildbow> Not getting the vibe, honestly.
2039<Teruzi> huh yeah
2040<Teruzi> made by some other dude
2041<Teruzi> J.A. Seazer  apparently
2042<krahe> sometime I think that main thought of toho fan artists is 'you know what we need? more crossovers'
2043VernZzZ is now known as Vern|Pirate
2044<Yewnyx> Teruzi: produced by J A  Caesar: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%E3%83%BBA%E3%83%BB%E3%82%B7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B6%E3%83%BC
2045<Yewnyx> Disk 10 (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E9%9D%A9%E5%91%BD%E3%82%A6%E3%83%86%E3%83%8A_%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%88CD-BOX#Disk10)
2046<Teruzi> oh
2047• Teruzi: squints
2048<Yewnyx> no wait, your spelling was right
2049<Teruzi> I don't read japanese
2050<Yewnyx> real name Terahara Takaaki anyhow
2051<Teruzi> but I'll take your word for it?
2052<Yewnyx> it's spelled shi-za-, and pronounced as such, be apparently he preferred the transliteration of "Sea" over "Cae"
2053<Yewnyx> yeah was just finding corroborating sources
2054<Yewnyx> you got it right
2055<Teruzi> aw yee
2056<krahe> oh wow
2057<krahe> it's looks like some of 90's sad adults hit their middle age crisis
2058<krahe> 'now everything is a shit, 90's were great, let's forget all the clusterfuck that it really was and drow in the wave of moronic nostalgia'
2059<krahe> it's just sad and hilarious
2060<krahe> talk right now about new social media trend
2061<krahe> selective memory all the way
2062<Teruzi> well yes
2063<Teruzi> it applies to us as well
2064<Teruzi> eventually
2065Benguin[ZzZ] is now known as Benguin
2066<Vern|Pirate> no
2067<Vern|Pirate> I will never have a midlife crisis
2068<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2069<Teruzi> you have like seven small crisis per week
2070<Teruzi> soon you will find an adaptation so bad
2071<Teruzi> you'll shave your head in protest or something
2072<+Elara> ayy Pirate
2073<krahe> Teruzi, well you didn't have a default, skyrocketed spike of corruption, mass pro-west 'sell everything for nothing' hysteria and emerged from the underground with gusto organized crime in 90s
2074<Teruzi> um, no
2075<Teruzi> I didn't have that
2076<Teruzi> I'm not a country though
2077<Vern|Pirate> uh
2078<Vern|Pirate> Considering how I'm going bald already, Teruzi
2079<krahe> bad frustated english
2080<krahe> sorry
2081<Vern|Pirate> I will shave my head not out of protest
2082<Vern|Pirate> But out of misery and making it look reasonable :|
2083<Teruzi> heh
2084<Teruzi> I bet you'll look fiiiine, even bald
2085<Teruzi> in fact
2086<Teruzi> you could be that one weirdly attracting balding teacher
2087• Teruzi: salivates
2088<krahe> I just can't even imagine how thick lenses on their pink glasses
2089<Teruzi> but but
2090<Teruzi> muh nostalgia
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2092<Quanfinigon> holy shit, just realized Andross from Starfox, name literally means man
2093<Quanfinigon> and he's the only non-animal...
2094<krahe> huh
2095<krahe> neat
2096<+Elara> how...surprising :P
2097<Yewnyx> Teruzi: I grew up in CA during the dot com boom while property prices continued to rise so yeah the 90s were legitimately better from a socioeconomic point of view
2098<Yewnyx> housing bubble burst plus post 9/11 hysteria leading into foreign engagements...the mid to late 90s were at least better than the aughts IMO
2099<Teruzi> yes but
2100<Teruzi> no internet
2101<Quanfinigon> sure there was
2102<Quanfinigon> just no goggle
2103<Quanfinigon> oogle*
2104<Vern|Pirate> I'm on an adventure, guys.
2105<Benguin> But no tumblr
2106<Quanfinigon> I remember asking jeeves for help on school projects
2107<Vern|Pirate> https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/t0ynr/throwaway_time_whats_your_secret_that_could/ this thread is an adventure
2108<Teruzi> ech
2109<Teruzi> I'm not sure I want to have an adventure Vern
2110<Vern|Pirate> BUT
2111<Vern|Pirate> BUUUUT
2112<Vern|Pirate> Okay, yeah
2113<Vern|Pirate> Trigger warning for everything there
2114<Vern|Pirate> And a scary amount of incest
2115<Vern|Pirate> Like
2116<Teruzi> alright
2117<Teruzi> not surprising
2118<Vern|Pirate> One in ten is someone having sex with their cousin.
2119<Teruzi> and still makes me queasy
2120<Vern|Pirate> 36k comments remaining
2121<Teruzi> oh boy
2122<krahe> No
2123<krahe> I learned my lesson, Mr Bones
2124<krahe> I won't get on this ride
2125• Rhetorical: belatedly notices Elara's ping
2126<+Elara> you ok Rhet?
2127<Rhetorical> I am
2128<Rhetorical> How are you?
2129<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: i don't know how you're sorting those comments but the cousin posts are all towards the bottom
2130<Vern|Pirate> It says "top comments"
2131<krahe> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfAHs-CP28g oh wow
2132<Vern|Pirate> BUt sometimes I see comments of 300 upvotes over those with 4000
2133<+Elara> 'm areet, aye
2134<Yewnyx> ah. i sort by 'best'
2135<Teruzi> I just switched to new first
2136<Rhetorical> Elara: did you hear how that date thing turned out?
2137<+Elara> what, the girl asking you out by text and whatnot?
2138<Teruzi> wowowow
2139<Rhetorical> Yeah
2140<Teruzi> what's this
2141• Teruzi: sits down
2142<Teruzi> Do tell
2143<Quanfinigon> it's partly because newer posts are going to have less total votes
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2145<Rhetorical> Well Tuzi
2146<Vern|Pirate> "I once helped out my a female friend's family by taking care of their cat for a week. Every day for a week, I would go over there and snoop around their house. I found my friend's diary, and proceeded to read the entire thing. I used this information to get her to like me, and she is currently my wife."
2147<Rhetorical> It all started last night at 11:05 pm
2148• Vern|Pirate: closes the thread and will enjoy it for the rest of the year
2149<Yewnyx> wait, does it say 'top 200 comments" sorted by best?
2150<Yewnyx> or top 200 comments sorted by top
2151<Rhetorical> When I received a text from a girl, let's call her C, saying, "Rhet, let's date."
2152<Rhetorical> This girl I had met a few times before
2153<Teruzi> oh man, I like her style
2154<Teruzi> please, continue
2155<Vern|Pirate> I just went from "best" to "top" not sure how reddit does shit
2156<Rhetorical> On a somewhat related note, the platform she sent the message on automatically send read receipts
2157<Rhetorical> which I had forgotten about at the time
2158<Vern|Pirate> You mean facebook
2159<Rhetorical> I mean GroupMe
2160<Vern|Pirate> What's that shit
2161<Rhetorical> Group texting, primarily, but individual users can also message each other
2162<Vern|Pirate> That's why you don't get laid, Rhet, you use obscure social networks.
2163<Rhetorical> The latter is how she sent this message
2164<Rhetorical> Anyways
2165<Rhetorical> As I was thinking about how to respond
2166<Rhetorical> Taking into account that I didn't know her that well to begin with, and the little I have gotten to know her suggests she's not at all my type
2167<Rhetorical> And including asking people here for advice
2168<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: it weights time of the votes in, since as a threat gets more popular, it snowballs. 'best' tries to surface the newer comments that rose quickly since another vote late in the game on the highest comments means very little compared to the first few votes
2169<Yewnyx> source: I worked at reddit
2170<Vern|Pirate> You got fired for telling people secrets? ;D
2171• Vern|Pirate: absorbs the Reddit secrets
2172<Vern|Pirate> I still say you should call her out on her bullshit, Rhetorical
2173<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: not for telling people secrets, no.
2174<Rhetorical> At 11:15 pm, she posted a screenshot of her text to me, with the little notice saying I had read it, to the group chat including her, me, and a few other friends
2175<Teruzi> hooo
2176<Vern|Pirate> Yewnyx confirmed redditleaks
2177<Teruzi> hooooooooo
2178<Teruzi> alright
2179<Vern|Pirate> CALL HER OUT ON THIS
2180<Vern|Pirate> And post her reaction
2181<Teruzi> yeah
2182<Teruzi> alright wait wait
2183<Vern|Pirate> :|
2184<Teruzi> finish Rhet, then I'll tell you what I think
2185<Teruzi> let us not color his telling, be honest dude
2186<Teruzi> I'll hold off until the end
2187<Rhetorical> This prompted a slew of reaction gifs in the group chat
2188<Rhetorical> Including this one, from her: http://i.groupme.com/460x432.gif.17a03162f7fc4b5993c44c42f55d2a09.large
2189<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2190<Vern|Pirate> Pls tell me
2191<Vern|Pirate> You wrote in the chat
2192<Vern|Pirate> "You know I'm in here, right?"
2193<Rhetorical> At around 11:20 pm, C's friend from high school, A, texted me asking what I was doing
2194<Quanfinigon> should have takin a screenie of her screenie and posted it
2195<Vern|Pirate> ^
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2197<Rhetorical> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/EcYWcbXf/Screenshot_2015-09-29-04-05-40.png
2198<Rhetorical> Pretend my name's not on that
2199<Teruzi> ok
2200<@Wildbow> You've already let your name slip before
2201<Teruzi> guy though
2202<Rhetorical> "let slip"
2203<Rhetorical> As in, Lumi told everyone
2204<Rhetorical> :P
2205<@Wildbow> That's essentially it
2206<Teruzi> what really
2207<Teruzi> hmph
2208<@Wildbow> When I was reading what you wrote above
2209<Rhetorical> Sorta
2210<Rhetorical> I'd mentioned it above
2211<Rhetorical> *before
2212<@Wildbow> I thought for the longest time you were obliquely referencing lumpi
2213<Teruzi> Lumi who lives in Brazil?
2214<Rhetorical> ^
2215<Teruzi> unlkely
2216• Wildbow: shrugs
2217<Teruzi> *unlikely
2218<Teruzi> but hey, there's a million of us
2219<@Wildbow> Also, do you use f.lux, Rhet?
2220<Teruzi> hard to keep track
2221<Rhetorical> Anyways, I didn't answer A's text, because I assumed she was texting about the thing
2222<Teruzi> flux <3
2223<@Wildbow> Because that's a very pink screenshot to me.  Wondering if it's accumulated f.lux
2224<Teruzi> but so incandescent
2225<Rhetorical> I use an app called Twilight, which is essentially the same thing for Android
2226• Wildbow: nods
2227<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
2228<@Wildbow> Is pretty much pumpkin orange to me
2229<Teruzi> yeah, me too
2230<Benguin> I used to use Redshift
2231<Benguin> similar to f.lux
2232<Teruzi> did the 24 hour preview and voila, orange
2233<Benguin> slightly better laptop support on linux
2234<Rhetorical> Moving on
2235<Teruzi> yeah, continue
2236<Benguin> Yeah jim
2237<Rhetorical> At 11:50 pm, A posted in the group chat, saying, "Rhet, I do have your number. I will give it to her. Please respond."
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2240<Rhetorical> Which she then did
2241<@Wildbow> So much drama
2242<Vern|Pirate> Uh, in... the same chat that the screenshot was posted?
2243<Rhetorical> I let it go to voicemail, because I was not ready to deal with it
2244<Rhetorical> Yes
2245<Vern|Pirate> What is wrong with those kind of people?
2246<Rhetorical> Shortly afterwards, A posted a video of C calling me on speakerphone and getting my voicemail
2247<Vern|Pirate> ...
2248<+Elara> is this all some weird bit of performance art?
2249<Rhetorical> Oh, I'd forgotten about this one
2250<Teruzi> what Elara said
2251<Rhetorical> @Corder Guy R u gonna guest star on the Claudia soap opera or not
2252<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2253<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
2254<Vern|Pirate> Upload the video
2255<Vern|Pirate> :D
2256<Vern|Pirate> Gosh, I'm feeling like an Arabic housewife with all this drama.
2257<Benguin> is rhet being stalk-doxxed?
2258<Rhetorical> It has my phone number visible, so I think not
2259<Teruzi> aight
2260<Vern|Pirate> :(
2261<@Wildbow> Holy shit, bad manner
2262• Vern|Pirate: has Lumi's phone number
2263<@Wildbow> Putting your number online for others to find/see
2264<Rhetorical> It's just the phone call, no commentary
2265<Rhetorical> It's in the private group chat
2266<Rhetorical> With like, six or seven friends in it
2267<Vern|Pirate> Obviously it's only 5 friends
2268<Rhetorical> Not public
2269<Vern|Pirate> With those 2 missing :|
2270<Rhetorical> :|
2271<Vern|Pirate> But Rheeeet
2272<Vern|Pirate> Call them out
2273<Rhetorical> Anyways
2274<Rhetorical> This morning
2275<Rhetorical> I gave her a call as soon as I was awake and we were both not in class
2276<Rhetorical> I had to decided to pretty much ignore all the stuff, because I wasn't interested in dating her in the first place
2277<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate++
2278<Vern|Pirate> :/
2279<Rhetorical> So I call her, and say "I saw your message, and I'm afraid I'm going to have to let you down."
2280<Rhetorical> She says, "That's fine, just post it in the group chat. I have a reaction gif for this."
2281• Vern|Pirate: still thinks you should call them out in the group chat and see who are your real friends#
2282<Teruzi> oh man
2283<Rhetorical> It's at this point that I say "What the fuck"
2284<Rhetorical> After hanging up, of course
2285<Rhetorical> Wouldn't want to ruin my image of a good Christian boy
2286<Teruzi> you're christian?
2287<Teruzi> huh
2288<Vern|Pirate> Did you see his pic?
2289<Teruzi> never knew
2290<Vern|Pirate> Of course he is
2291<Rhetorical> That's profiling
2292<Teruzi> this is shocking
2293<Rhetorical> :P
2294<Teruzi> what an incredible turn of events, anyways
2295<Rhetorical> I don't post in the group chat
2296<Vern|Pirate> Well, at least you aren't Mormon
2297<Benguin> Are you religious christian or is your family christian (out of curiosity)
2298<Rhetorical> She post saying I called and said no
2299<Benguin> Like
2300<Rhetorical> Yes
2301<Teruzi> I digress
2302<Vern|Pirate> Rhet wins
2303<Teruzi> whatcha need help with?
2304<Benguin> Allow me to rephrase if you will: Do you believe in the Christian faith?
2305<Vern|Pirate> CALLLLLLLL THEMMMMM OUUUUUUUUT
2306<Rhetorical> And posts her reaction gif
2307<Vern|Pirate> Or add me to the group!
2308<Rhetorical> Ben: That's a broad statement
2309<Teruzi> Vern, don't be so dramatic, gosh
2310<Rhetorical> That would be hilarious, Vern
2311<Yewnyx> do they not get how violating that is
2312<Benguin> You're right.
2313<Rhetorical> I'm sorely tempted
2314<Yewnyx> jeez >_<
2315<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group, and I will call them out.
2316<@Wildbow> I'd just steer clear of the drama
2317<Rhetorical> I am guessing
2318<Rhetorical> he is more of a peach man
2319<Rhetorical> ^ Re: me
2320<Benguin> Rhetorical: what do you think about this jesus dude though
2321<Rhetorical> I have no idea what that means
2322<Rhetorical> I think he was pretty cool
2323<Benguin> Got ya'
2324<Quanfinigon> he usre likes appearing on toast
2325<Vern|Pirate> Also a broad statement
2326<Vern|Pirate> Jesus is also prophet for the Islam, Benguin
2327<Teruzi> yes, but so is mohamed (oooh)
2328<Benguin> My question wasn't really about like
2329<Benguin> a specific religio
2330<Benguin> n
2331<Teruzi> aight
2332<Teruzi> bottom line
2333<Teruzi> she's cray
2334<Teruzi> stand clear
2335<Rhetorical> And then A texted me earlier today
2336<Yewnyx> Teruzi: and baha'i, no?
2337<Benguin> more "are you an athiest with a religious family or are you yourself religious" but
2338<Vern|Pirate> best way to phrase this question is "Do you believe you are going to burn if you stick your dick into someone without sticking your finger into a ringer first?"
2339<Vern|Pirate> finger into a ringer
2340<Vern|Pirate> wtf hands
2341<Teruzi> oi oi
2342<Teruzi> leave the boy alone
2343<Vern|Pirate> This isn't a typo you can do
2344<Rhetorical> Getting mad at me for reacting to it as though she were being serious, rather than realizing that it was, in A's eyes obviously, a joke.
2345<Vern|Pirate> espc. because "Ringer" means "Wrestler" in German
2346<Benguin> I don't mean to um..
2347<Benguin> probe
2348<Vern|Pirate> <.<
2349<Benguin> Mostly.
2350<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: what kind of ring ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
2351<Teruzi> well maybe she shouldn't have put you on the spot
2352<Rhetorical> Ben want to probe me?
2353<Teruzi> how about -that- shit
2354• Teruzi: shyly raises his hand
2355<Teruzi> I-I'll do it
2356<Benguin> Sure but I don't have my gear and I'd hate to do a half-arsed job.
2357<Rhetorical> Heh
2358<Rhetorical> half-arsed
2359<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group
2360<Benguin> Right I gotta scram
2361<Benguin> later o/!
2362<Quanfinigon> what colourful language
2363<Vern|Pirate> I will send jokingly Nazi reaction pictures
2364<+Elara> you need better chat groups Rhet
2365<Rhetorical> A few excerpts from A's texts
2366<+Elara> like this one :P
2367<Vern|Pirate> "Oh Nein You Didn't"
2368<Rhetorical> Indeed
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2370<Rhetorical> A asked why I didn't respond to her texts
2371<Rhetorical> I said I wasn't interested in the topic
2372<Vern|Pirate> Because she's a bitch?
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2374<Quanfinigon> I bet at least one of them is the kind of person who says "I hate drama"
2375<Rhetorical> Because I sure as hell wasn't going to tell someone else my response to C before I told C
2376<Teruzi> correct
2377<Rhetorical> She said, "Wow. Rude. You know it was somewhat of a joke, right? We didn't expect you to say yes"
2378<Teruzi> I mean, good choice
2379<Teruzi> did you ever talk to C tho
2380<Rhetorical> "Don't get me wrong, I was hoping you'd say yes"
2381<Rhetorical> I did
2382<Rhetorical> Earlier today, in the morning
2383<Rhetorical> I called, she told me to post it to the group chat and then said bye
2384<Teruzi> 'kay
2385<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group chat
2386<Rhetorical> Also later, but I'm going chronologically
2387<Vern|Pirate> I will make sure those kind of people will never talk to you
2388<Vern|Pirate> Ever again.
2389<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2390• Teruzi: pats Vern
2391• Vern|Pirate: tips his tongue with poison
2392<Teruzi> stop being so jelly, it's unsightly
2393<Teruzi> let him finish
2394<Rhetorical> I said posting the thingy to the group chat before I had responded was classless, regardless of whether it was a joke or not
2395<Rhetorical> A said that was the joke
2396<Rhetorical> Because I didn't respond
2397<Rhetorical> (?)
2398<Vern|Pirate> You should jokingly ask for nudes :|
2399<Rhetorical> And that C actually does like me
2400<Vern|Pirate> Or maybe A is a bitch
2401<Vern|Pirate> And wanted an answer quicker
2402<Vern|Pirate> So she posted the pic?!
2403<Vern|Pirate> Call them out!#
2404<Rhetorical> "What are you really mad about, though? That she had the guts to ask you on a date or that she did it publicly?"
2405<Rhetorical> "It was jokingly in case you said no"
2406<Rhetorical> "I tried to throw you a bone, but if you'd rather watch grass die then that's fine too"
2407<Rhetorical> (These are all A)
2408<Vern|Pirate> A is a bitch
2409<Vern|Pirate> I will assume A is the last letter in her name
2410<Vern|Pirate> Her name must be Linda
2411<Yewnyx> I mean if it was me I'd just say "I didn't respond because this experience was intensely violating and not in good humor. However funny you think it is, guilting people, giving out numbers, and trying to induce emotional whiplash for good fun is mean-spirited"
2412<Vern|Pirate> Fucking Linda :|
2413<Rhetorical> A is the first letter
2414<Vern|Pirate> Dammit Rhet
2415<Rhetorical> Then, later
2416<Vern|Pirate> Don't kill my hate boner
2417<Rhetorical> C messaged me
2418<Rhetorical> "Sorry for freaking you out and being too aggressive"
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2420<Quanfinigon> Adnil, then
2421<Rhetorical> I said that wasn't the issue, that I wasn't sure how to react to her posting it on the group chat
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2423<+Elara> it's not about the aggression of askin' tho, is it. it's about publicising it. what are these kids, 12?
2424<Rhetorical> "Idk it started out as a joke with A cuz I think you're cute and I thought maybe you'd think it was funny. Sorry"
2425<Rhetorical> "Sorry for offending you"
2426<+Elara> you are right to not want to date a 12 year old Rhet <3
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2428<Rhetorical> Unless it's Lumi
2429<Rhetorical> C is 18, A is ... 19?
2430<Rhetorical> I think she's 19 now
2431<Vern|Pirate> Okay
2432<Olivebirdy> Lumi is 20.
2433<Olivebirdy> Why?
2434<Vern|Pirate> I will push all blame on A from now on
2435<Rhetorical> Anyways, thus ends the glorious epic of Rhet, A, and C
2436<Vern|Pirate> no
2437Narf is now known as Narf|Sleep
2438<Vern|Pirate> nooooo
2439<Vern|Pirate> This isn't the end
2440<Vern|Pirate> You didn't add me to the group yet
2441<Olivebirdy> What is going on?
2442<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, add me to the group, I need to have a serious talk with A
2443<Vern|Pirate> A very serious talk
2444<krahe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l_LcVNrEhA d'aww
2445<Rhetorical> Vern pls
2446<cukier> I missed the part when you bury A's body?
2447• Olivebirdy: tackles Vern for ignoring him.
2448• Vern|Pirate: throws Olivebirdy down the stairs
2449<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
2450<Rhetorical> A was one of my first friends at uni, and it was through her that I met most of my other friends here
2451• Olivebirdy: drags Vern|Pirate down with him.
2452<Vern|Pirate> A is a bitch, Rhet
2453<Teruzi> Vern
2454<Teruzi> so are you
2455<krahe> lovecraft is the best
2456<Teruzi> AND YET
2457<Teruzi> HERE WE ARE
2458<Vern|Pirate> Yes, Tuzi
2459<Teruzi> :D
2460<Vern|Pirate> But I'm a different kind of bitch
2461<Teruzi> well yeah
2462<Yewnyx> so yeah maybe a heartfelt talk would be nice
2463<Vern|Pirate> I understand that there are lines you can't cross
2464<Yewnyx> rather than anger
2465<Yewnyx> well that, or maybe have Vern|Pirate taint them in haiku form
2466<Rhetorical> I think it's kinda funny, as is
2467<Teruzi> hearfelt is such a weird word
2468<Yewnyx> taunt*
2469<Rhetorical> Wouldn't be so much if I actually were interested in C
2470<Teruzi> "let us have a coronary talk" said no one ever
2471<Vern|Pirate> Admittedly, the lines I wouldn't cross are a bit different to the lines placed in this chat
2472<Vern|Pirate> But I can adapt
2473<Rhetorical> And I'm certainly not going to tell them I think it's funny
2474<Quanfinigon> Elder Gods are like teenagers: no one understands them
2475<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2476<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2477<Vern|Pirate> Add me to the group
2478<Rhetorical> Vern
2479<Olivebirdy> Guys, what are you talking about...
2480<Rhetorical> I don't trust you that much
2481<Olivebirdy> :<
2482<Quanfinigon> vern, no
2483<Vern|Pirate> I need to have a serious talk with all of the involved
2484<Vern|Pirate> :(
2485<Vern|Pirate> I can send you nudes which you can share online if I'm a bad person
2486<Vern|Pirate> Would that balance this out?
2487<Rhetorical> Um
2488<Rhetorical> No?
2489• Vern|Pirate: is untrustworthy and that hurts
2490<Teruzi> oi oi
2491<Teruzi> Vern I have a private chat group
2492<Teruzi> and it has drama
2493<Teruzi> something something dating
2494<Teruzi> something something Linda
2495• cukier: gives Vern a painkillers.
2496<Teruzi> why don't -I- get the same offer?
2497<Teruzi> hmmm?
2498<Teruzi> HMM?
2499<Rhetorical> They'd probably kick you off right away, Vern
2500<Vern|Pirate> BECAUSE YOU NEVER TOLD ME, TUZI
2501<Vern|Pirate> Rhetorical: Okay, I promise! No dick pics or smiling Hitler memes.
2502<Rhetorical> Or being someone they've never met that's going to yell at them :P
2503<Vern|Pirate> I'm not gonna yell at them
2504<Vern|Pirate> I will have a genuine conversation with them, based on facts and a modicum of human decency.
2505<cukier> I have group chat on facebook and there is no drama.
2506<Olivebirdy> If I understand correctly, Rhet is dating a private chat room. Good job!
2507<krahe> Vern|Pirate, http://u.kanobu.ru/comments/images/7a02057e-3a92-490a-976a-dd86a41d434c.gif
2508<Vern|Pirate> I hope this is SFW
2509<krahe> it is
2510<Rhetorical> I don't know if my parents will understand, Olive, but what we have it real
2511<cukier> It's not.
2512<Vern|Pirate> DUDE
2513<krahe> laughter
2514<Vern|Pirate> You sent a German a hitler gif!
2515• Olivebirdy: bro-fists Rhetorical.
2516<Vern|Pirate> The police will come now!
2517<Quanfinigon> it was nice knowing you
2518<krahe> don't care, russian
2519<Vern|Pirate> My mostly elaborate arguments will be aiding your plight, Rhet
2520<krahe> we allowed to make nazi jokes
2521<Vern|Pirate> In making that pack of rabid animals understand
2522<Vern|Pirate> Why exactly their behavior is wrong
2523<Vern|Pirate> And why you shouldn't advocate to such behavior
2524<Vern|Pirate> Also tell A she's a bitch and her daughter Linda will become a hooker.
2525<+Elara> chill out Vern
2526<Olivebirdy> >chill
2527<Olivebirdy> >Vern
2528<Rhetorical> A's dating my roommate from last year, Vern, if that makes you feel any better
2529<Vern|Pirate> ^
2530<Olivebirdy> I love Vern, but he's not going to chill.
2531<Vern|Pirate> Those kind of people
2532<Vern|Pirate> Who can't even see their mistake
2533<Vern|Pirate> Are the people that piss me off
2534<Vern|Pirate> I'm having a hard time being chill about this
2535<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2WzkgkufyE
2536<Vern|Pirate> Getting late for you, Wildbo, maybe you should tuck the pig in
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2538<Rhetorical> pig in a blanket
2539<Rhetorical> Hmm
2540• Vern|Pirate: shoves Rhet away
2541<Vern|Pirate> No cooking the bow
2542<Rhetorical> What if I add more drama to the Vern stew?
2543<Rhetorical> Like if I said A had a crush on me
2544<Vern|Pirate> That would be a lie :|
2545<Rhetorical> Not even
2546<Vern|Pirate> oh?
2547<Vern|Pirate> because if she did
2548<Rhetorical> She didn't tell me until like three months after we'd met, after she'd given up on my picking up hints and started being interested in my roommate, instead
2549<Vern|Pirate> Good riddance you didn't date that bitch
2550<Vern|Pirate> She's a bad person. She deserves the lesser option.
2551<Vern|Pirate> Rhet is obviously only for top-tier girls :|
2552<Rhetorical> If only any of them liked me
2553<Vern|Pirate> See
2554<+Elara> aww Rhet. didja like A?
2555<Vern|Pirate> That's your issue
2556<Vern|Pirate> You gotta do the first step
2557<Rhetorical> Eh, not really my type, either
2558<Vern|Pirate> Go to the next girl you are attracted to and say "Hey, *name* let's date"
2559<Rhetorical> Very smol, cutesy
2560<Rhetorical> Vern: I'll take a screenshot and post it here, when I do
2561<Vern|Pirate> No. Be a good person.
2562<Vern|Pirate> Be better, Rhet.
2563<+Elara> Rhet likes not-smol not-cute girls?
2564<Rhetorical> Smol is okay
2565<Rhetorical> Just maybe not that smol
2566<Rhetorical> And cutesy is the wrong word
2567<Rhetorical> I dunno
2568<+Elara> Rhet not a Madison fan
2569<Rhetorical> People are weird
2570<Vern|Pirate> Rhet does not like women who are bigger than him
2571<Teruzi> man types are so weird
2572<Teruzi> I think my type is pretty much "dude that's available and not repulsive"
2573<Rhetorical> I could tell you the tale of Clare
2574<+Elara> my type is tall, athletic. tallest girl I've dated more than twice is 5'5"
2575<Teruzi> how tall is your girl?
2576<+Elara> types mislead you :P
2577<Teruzi> also you seem tall enough yourself?
2578<+Elara> my partner now is 5'3"
2579<Teruzi> like me!
2580<Teruzi> hooray
2581<Teruzi> types are good for one night stands, ya know
2582<Teruzi> but make poor standards for more involved relationships
2583<+Elara> oh, sure, one night stands. for relationships types are more likely to lead you astray
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2585• Vern|Pirate: likes really long hair
2586<Rhetorical> Types include personality, too
2587<Rhetorical> ++Vern
2588<+Elara> really long hair so impractical
2589<Teruzi> it gets fucking everywhere
2590<Teruzi> my roomie has long ass hair
2591<Rhetorical> Not so much beyond a certain point, I guess
2592<Vern|Pirate> Guys
2593<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2594<Rhetorical> But nice hair is very nice
2595<+Elara> that's gonna lead you, primarily, towards feminine or girly-girls
2596<Teruzi> and I found it all over the place
2597<Vern|Pirate> Oh no, I like short hair as well
2598<Rhetorical> Clare has nice hair
2599<+Elara> Rhet Clare story?
2600<Teruzi> aight
2601<+Elara> tell
2602<Rhetorical> Elara pls
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2604<Rhetorical> It's 5 am
2605<Teruzi> if you wanna tell it so much
2606<Teruzi> just tell it
2607<Teruzi> oh shit
2608<Luminifera> help
2609<Vern|Pirate> Don't pretend you are going to sleep, Rhet
2610• Rhetorical: hugs Lumi
2611<Teruzi> Lumi
2612<Vern|Pirate> Just tell us
2613<+Elara> you said you could like 5 mins ago :P
2614<Teruzi> what do you need?
2615<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
2616<Vern|Pirate> Rhet's heart was broken
2617<Luminifera> im in bed and I can't get up
2618<Vern|Pirate> You need to heal him
2619<+Elara> Luminifera what's up? *hug*
2620<Luminifera> I got the opposite of Rhets problem
2621<Luminifera> hahah
2622<Luminifera> I'm too lazy
2623<Luminifera> I had a crazy dream
2624<Vern|Pirate> two mean girls were mean to him
2625<Rhetorical> That is so not the opposite of my problem
2626<Vern|Pirate> And made fun of him#
2627• Elara: prods Lumi to GTF out of bed
2628<Rhetorical> That is like my exact problem
2629• Luminifera: hugs Rhetorical
2630<Luminifera> I'm don't wanna get up, you don't wanna go to sleep
2631<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2632<Luminifera> sounds like opposites to me
2633<Vern|Pirate> Imagine Lumi came to your place
2634<Rhetorical> Laziness
2635<+Elara> then again IRCcloud tells me you've only been logged off for 6 hours bae
2636<Rhetorical> Yes Vern
2637<Rhetorical> Imagining
2638<Vern|Pirate> ANd you showed all your friends in he group a pic of you
2639<Luminifera> okay. you come here to sleep. and then shove me off the bed.
2640<Luminifera> there
2641<+Elara> maybe not enough sleep for Luminiferifera?
2642<Vern|Pirate> And said that's your girlfriend
2643<Vern|Pirate> I got no need for bitches who don't know the word "privacy"
2644<Luminifera> yes enough sleep, lemme see,
2645<Luminifera> from... uh...
2646<Rhetorical> Wait, tell them Lumi is my girlfriend?
2647<Luminifera> 11 to 7 is 8 hours
2648<Teruzi> Lumi do you have class?
2649<Vern|Pirate> Yes Rhet
2650<Luminifera> vern
2651<Rhetorical> They'd want to meet her
2652<Teruzi> that idea is so fucking bad
2653<Teruzi> I cannot explain
2654<Teruzi> how unnecessary
2655<Teruzi> adn contrived
2656<Teruzi> it is
2657<Luminifera> they'd just think rhet is a loser who has an internet girlfriend
2658<Teruzi> he could just be honest
2659<+Elara> huh, IRCcloud lies to me
2660<Vern|Pirate> That's why I said visiting
2661<Luminifera> why elata
2662<Rhetorical> Elara: add two hours for auto-disconnect to happen
2663<Luminifera> elara*
2664<Rhetorical> Only if you pay for her plane ticket, Vern
2665<Rhetorical> :P
2666<Luminifera> dollars are soooo expensive
2667<Luminifera> Jesus fucking christmas
2668<Rhetorical> mr crae
2669<Teruzi> yeah Lumi
2670<Teruzi> he's gone Rhet
2671<Luminifera> americans
2672<Rhetorical> You know what, I don't have classes for nine more hours
2673<Luminifera> get your economy together
2674<Luminifera> yes
2675<Rhetorical> I can stay up longer
2676<+Elara> Lumi, stop (justifiably) complaining about Americans
2677<Luminifera> go to sleep
2678<Luminifera> sbekdbabfksl
2679<+Elara> Rhet, tell us the story of Clare
2680<Luminifera> true elara
2681<VereorPirate> Clareeeee
2682<Rhetorical> Lumi, should I tell them about Clare?
2683<Teruzi> anyways, Lumi
2684<Luminifera> its our economy thats going to hell
2685<Teruzi> I have to leave like
2686<Teruzi> right now
2687<+Elara> everybody sort your fucking lives out and let me get back to pretending to work while I wait to hear from recruiters
2688<Teruzi> we could leave together!
2689<Luminifera> rhet how should I know?? it's your story not mine haha
2690<Rhetorical> Very well
2691<Luminifera> tuzi hell yes
2692<Teruzi> wait fuck
2693<VereorPirate> I should tell some of my drama stories sometime
2694<Luminifera> wait isn't it like
2695<Luminifera> 6 am for you tuzi
2696<Teruzi> I don't wanna miss the story
2697<Teruzi> 7
2698<Teruzi> class in an hour
2699<Luminifera> wow
2700<Luminifera> we have the same hours
2701<Teruzi> have exactly 30 minutes to shower and eay
2702<Luminifera> bless you
2703<Luminifera> haha
2704<Rhetorical> Go away Tuzi
2705<Teruzi> I might have to skip eating
2706<+Elara> Tuzi...
2707<Teruzi> yes
2708<Teruzi> and yet
2709<Teruzi> fuck you
2710<+Elara> have a nap, skip eating, I can send you logs later
2711<Teruzi> I leave when I want
2712<Teruzi> but then
2713<Luminifera> I have class in 30 minutes, and I'm home and in bed.
2714<Rhetorical> I will og it
2715<Teruzi> I'm sooo late
2716<VereorPirate> I'll keep logs for you, Teruzi
2717<+Elara> <3
2718<Rhetorical> *log
2719<Teruzi> haha, no nap
2720<Rhetorical> LUMI GET UP
2721<Teruzi> 30 minutes to get there
2722<Teruzi> oh well
2723<+Elara> Lumi, you've been doing well lately. go to class!
2724<Luminifera> I'll try to get to the second class
2725<Luminifera> mmmm
2726<Luminifera> =w=
2727<Luminifera> bed is so cozy.
2728<VereorPirate> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g6JYzOjglBs
2729<VereorPirate> For Lumi
2730• Rhetorical: pushes Lumi out of bed
2731• Luminifera: falls unceremoniously on the ground
2732<Luminifera> bluh
2733<Rhetorical> Yay!
2734<Luminifera> fine
2735<Rhetorical> I mean, sorry!
2736<Luminifera> brb u guise
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2739<+Elara> ayy panth
2740<Yewnyx> good night all
2741<Rhetorical> Hmm
2742<Rhetorical> I'm wondering how far back to start
2743<VereorPirate> Start at the meeting
2744<VereorPirate> How did you meet Clare?
2745<Rhetorical> Very well
2746<Rhetorical> So, I used to be very socially inept
2747<Rhetorical> Like, very
2748<Rhetorical> Er, I need to start earlier
2749<Rhetorical> I was homeschooled from first grade to the end of high school
2750<VereorPirate> aight, that we know, you once told us
2751pantherasapiens is now known as panth
2752<Yewnyx> Vern|Pirate: i didn't know that
2753<panth> Ayyy Elara
2754<VereorPirate> Shush, Yewnyx
2755<VereorPirate> Let him continue
2756<panth> So Siberian is a Remote but acts as a Troll
2757<panth> I like
2758• Yewnyx: sleeps
2759<panth> Also I really want to know all about the original Cogent, Varlet, Troll, etc xD
2760<panth> Also hey krahe
2761<VereorPirate> Shut up, panth, we're having an important conversation here
2762<+Elara> maybe as snips, one day panth. now shh, Rhet's telling a story
2763<panth> Ohhhhh right right
2764<Rhetorical> Starting in the fall of 2010, I attended One Day Academy, which is a co-op thingy for homeschoolers, so that kids can learn things that their parents might not be able to teach them that well, like science, math, etc.
2765<Rhetorical> You attend classes one day a week, with teachers and everything
2766<krahe> hey panth
2767<Rhetorical> One of the classes I took was a Worldview class, which was a combination of Language, Literature, History, and Philosophy
2768<Rhetorical> Er, fall of 2009
2769<Rhetorical> Which would be the year before high school
2770<VereorPirate> And there you met Clare?
2771<Rhetorical> In this class was a girl named Clare
2772<Rhetorical> Who I though was very pretty, and quickly started crushing on
2773<Rhetorical> *thought
2774<krahe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnSaBI1U_24 amv, good one
2775<panth> Rhetorical: ...was it reciprocal? ;o
2776<Rhetorical> panth no skipping ahead
2777<Rhetorical> Now, me being the socially inept homeschooled teenager that I was, decided the best course of action would be to not talk to her
2778<Rhetorical> Other than saying hi at the start of class sometimes, and engaging in class discussion
2779<Rhetorical> This continued for most of the year
2780<Rhetorical> I talked to her a bit every now and then
2781<Luminifera> my sneakers are soooo dirty.
2782<Luminifera> oh. never mind. I'll keep quiet. o:
2783<Rhetorical> Starting in the first or second year of high school, I made an effort to talk to her a little more, but never really went anywhere with it
2784<Rhetorical> I got to know her better
2785<Rhetorical> Met her parents, stuff like that
2786<Rhetorical> The Worldview class, by the way, is actually a series of four year-long classes
2787<Rhetorical> So we're still in the same class throughout this
2788<Rhetorical> The third year of high school, the guy who prepares the Worldview curriculum for all the classes in Texas decides to host a historical costume ball for all the Worldview students
2789<Rhetorical> Or rather, I think he'd done this every year, but this was the first one our classes decided to go to
2790<Rhetorical> *our class
2791<Rhetorical> So we had dance lessons as a class
2792<Rhetorical> I got to dance with Clare a few times, which was fun
2793<Rhetorical> We went to the ball, I danced with a few people I knew, a few people I didn't, and with Clare once
2794<Rhetorical> The same year, I helped tutor Clare in a couple subjects
2795<Rhetorical> Maths and physics
2796<Rhetorical> So we got to know each other still better
2797<Rhetorical> She invites me to her birthday party, I go
2798<Rhetorical> I invite her to my birthday party, she can't make it
2799<Rhetorical> Throughout all of this I still have a fairly large crush on her
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2801<Rhetorical> Ah, forgot about Henry
2802<Rhetorical> Henry was my best friend from church, whom I met when we were around 12
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2804<Rhetorical> His dad taught the Worldview classes
2805<Rhetorical> So he was in those classes with me and Clare, as well as a few other classes
2806<Rhetorical> So at the end of my third year of high school, my circle of friends included Henry, Henry's brother Andrew, Clare, and maybe one or two others
2807<Rhetorical> I graduated high school a year early
2808<Rhetorical> I spend the year in between graduating and starting uni doing not much of anything
2809<Rhetorical> Worked out on my family's property some
2810<Rhetorical> Made sure all my uni stuff was in order
2811<Rhetorical> Lots of video games
2812<Rhetorical> :|
2813<panth> The thing where you go to her birthday parties but not vice-versa lasted all the way from (year before high school) to (end of third year of high school), then?
2814<Rhetorical> I went to two of hers
2815<Rhetorical> I didn't have a party one year, and the second year she couldn't make it
2816<Rhetorical> And then the year after both our birthdays were after uni started
2817<Rhetorical> So, at the end of that year, Henry and Clare graduate from high school, and then we start uni in the fall
2818<Rhetorical> Clare and I go to Texas A&M
2819<Rhetorical> Henry thought about A&M, but ended up going to West Point, instead
2820<Rhetorical> First week after we move into uni, there are no classes
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2822<Grist> yo
2823<Grist> Nope. Gonna need another client.
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2825<Rhetorical> So I text Clare, asking her if we could get lunch and catch up after having not seen each other for essentially a year (other than a few hours at a time maybe twice during the summer)
2826<Rhetorical> (at the suggestion of my dad)
2827<Rhetorical> I'd been slowly getting better at the whole social thing, so I thought I was up to the challenge of lunch with her
2828<Rhetorical> She didn't answer
2829<Vern|Pirate> Nooooo
2830<Rhetorical> I got in touch with her later, and she said she'd been busy
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2832<Vern|Pirate> Busy doing what?!
2833<panth> Ha your daddy's a matchmaker
2834<Vern|Pirate> Planning a wedding?!
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2836<Rhetorical> Shh
2837<Rhetorical> So the rest of the semester goes by without too much contact
2838<Rhetorical> I ask her if she wants to go to a football game
2839<Rhetorical> She says she's already going with a group, but she'll ask a mutual friend of our if she wants to join us for the next game
2840<Rhetorical> I say great
2841<Rhetorical> She doesn't respond
2842<Vern|Pirate> >:|
2843<Rhetorical> I text her the day we have to get tickets, and she says she has to go with her roommate because it's her roommates birthday
2844<Rhetorical> (I didn't realize how much Vern is going to like this story)
2845<Luminifera> hahaha
2846<Vern|Pirate> ,
2847<Luminifera> he's going to thoroughly enjoy it
2848<Rhetorical> Anyways, the semester ends
2849<Luminifera> go on tell him already
2850<Rhetorical> Shh
2851<Luminifera> xD
2852<Rhetorical> Lumi go to class
2853<panth> Vern|Pirate is enjoying how much it mirrors /his/ life
2854<Luminifera> hahaha
2855<Rhetorical> Christmas break
2856<panth> Also hey Lumi
2857<Rhetorical> Not much happens
2858<Vern|Pirate> Fuck you, panth
2859• Luminifera: whispers "Hi panth!"
2860<Rhetorical> For Christmas, I get a gift certificate for dance lessons with a group that's associated with the university
2861<panth> From dad?
2862<Rhetorical> From parents
2863<Rhetorical> For which I have to bring a partner
2864<panth> ...did they also coincidentally give her a gift certificate for the same group or... oh.
2865<panth> Ahahahaha.
2866<Vern|Pirate> S-so...
2867<Vern|Pirate> Clare
2868<Rhetorical> The certificate covers the couple, but I still have to find a partner
2869<Rhetorical> So I think
2870<Rhetorical> Er
2871<Rhetorical> I missed a part
2872<Rhetorical> Back to the summer before uni started
2873<Rhetorical> I had been thinking about why I was so bad at talking to Clare
2874<Rhetorical> and people in general
2875<Vern|Pirate> Because homeschooling sucks?
2876<Rhetorical> And during that first fall semester, I'd realized that I probably needed to get over my crush
2877<Rhetorical> I just try to be friends with Clare
2878<Rhetorical> *and just
2879• Vern|Pirate: gives Rhet the porn therapy
2880<Rhetorical> Back to just after Christmas
2881<Rhetorical> Uni has started up again
2882<panth> The German porn therapy? O_O
2883<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
2884<Rhetorical> I think
2885<panth> Also - I must run home, somebody gimme logs later~
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2887<Rhetorical> "I'll invite Clare to the dance lessons. We've been to dance lessons before, so it won't be an obvious date thing."
2888<Rhetorical> or something along those lines
2889<Rhetorical> So I invite her
2890<Rhetorical> She has tickets to a concert on the day of the first lesson, and a uni event on the day of the second
2891<Rhetorical> (there are four lessons)
2892<Rhetorical> But, she says she can make it to the third lesson
2893<Vern|Pirate> She didn't make it to the third? :[
2894<Rhetorical> Which I didn't think would be a problem, because she was already familiar with this style of dance, and we could get there early so the instructors could help her review
2895<Luminifera> what the fuck is porn therapy
2896<Rhetorical> I take another friend of mine to the first two lessons, to whom I have explained my plight and who has agreed to have Clare go to the third lesson
2897<Rhetorical> (this, incidentally, is A from the last tale)
2898<Rhetorical> The first two lessons go well
2899<Rhetorical> A is a pretty good dancer
2900<Rhetorical> I suggested meeting Clare before hand so I could review what we had covered in the first two lessons, but I don't remember my own steps well enough, let alone her part, so it ends awkwardly and we decide to do the instructor review thing instead
2901<Rhetorical> Now, it is the day of the third lesson
2902<Rhetorical> I meet Clare, and we start walking to the lesson together
2903<Rhetorical> We make a bit of small talk
2904<Rhetorical> How are classes going, etc.
2905<Rhetorical> Then she asks me
2906<Rhetorical> "You know Henry and I were in a relationship, right?"
2907<Rhetorical> I do not know this
2908<Rhetorical> Somehow my best friend and a friend I've known for 3.5 year were in a seven month relationship and I never knew about it
2909<Rhetorical> *years
2910<Rhetorical> I say that I didn't know
2911<Rhetorical> We walk a bit more, and she asks if I was surprised (since I took a bit of time in answering)
2912<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2913<Vern|Pirate> Give me Henry's number
2914<Vern|Pirate> I need to talk to him
2915<Rhetorical> I say no, because I really should have noticed that they had liked each other in high school, but I am kinda surprised
2916<Rhetorical> Vern no
2917<Rhetorical> I'm not done yet
2918<Rhetorical> We continue on to the lesson
2919<Rhetorical> I'm thinking about this while the instructors help Clare catch up
2920<Rhetorical> The lesson is about to start, and there's an opportunity for everyone to warm up, if they like.
2921<Rhetorical> I ask Clare if she wants to dance to warm up
2922<Rhetorical> She says no
2923<Rhetorical> I'm still distracted by the revelation, so I say okay and watch the other dancers with her
2924<Rhetorical> Lesson starts
2925<Rhetorical> Goes pretty well
2926<Rhetorical> Clare's an alright dancer
2927<Rhetorical> Lesson ends
2928<Rhetorical> I walk Clare back to her dorm
2929<Rhetorical> She gives me a hug, wishes me goodnight, and goes to her room
2930<Rhetorical> I go to mine
2931<Rhetorical> Thus ends the day of the third lesson
2932<Rhetorical> I take A to the fourth lesson, and all goes well
2933<Rhetorical> There's a second set of lessons starting in a couple weeks
2934<Rhetorical> I ask Clare if she wants to go to them
2935<Rhetorical> She says no
2936<Rhetorical> I say okay
2937<Vern|Pirate> You're tearing me apart, Rhet
2938<Rhetorical> I ask A, she says yes
2939<Rhetorical> I see Clare with a mutual friend at the dining hall a few days later, I say hi, wait a bit to see if they'll invite me to join them, then continue walking when they don't
2940<@Mishie> wat
2941<Rhetorical> Mishie pls
2942<Rhetorical> I'm relating my tale of woe
2943<Vern|Pirate> I'm renouncing my earlier call
2944<Vern|Pirate> Maybe A would have been less of a bitch if you had not tried for Clare
2945<Rhetorical> This was after A was dating my roommate
2946<Vern|Pirate> THAT IS NO EXCUSE
2947<Rhetorical> I find out the next set of dance lessons are on a different day and at a different time
2948<Rhetorical> So I let Clare know, in case it was a time conflict with the previous days and times
2949<Rhetorical> She says no before I tell her when the new dates are, saying she really needs to focus on her studies
2950<Rhetorical> After all, finals are coming up
2951<Vern|Pirate> Oh god
2952<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
2953<Vern|Pirate> Pls
2954<Vern|Pirate> This physically pains me
2955<@Mishie> is this the sad tale
2956<Vern|Pirate> Please tell me there is some kind of happy end to this
2957<@Mishie> of Rhetorical crashing and burning
2958<@Mishie> over and over
2959<@Mishie> and over
2960<Vern|Pirate> Yes
2961<Vern|Pirate> Yes
2962<Vern|Pirate> Yes it is
2963<Vern|Pirate> And I'm feeling this pain, Mishie
2964<Rhetorical> A few days later, I'm stressed because of finals as well, because I've found out I'm pretty much going to fail one of my courses no matter what, which means I'll lose my scholarship
2965<Rhetorical> I can't sleep one night, and go for a walk at around 1 am
2966<Vern|Pirate> Please tell me you didn't lose your scholarship
2967<Rhetorical> Not yet
2968<Vern|Pirate> :(
2969<Rhetorical> I'm on probation
2970<Rhetorical> :|
2971<Vern|Pirate> Ok good
2972<+Elara> what happened on this walk, Rhet?
2973<Rhetorical> I get back to my dorm at around 2 am
2974<Vern|Pirate> You need to concentrate more on your studies and less on girls, Rhet :|
2975<Rhetorical> My dorm is one of four that's attached to a common area
2976<Rhetorical> In this common area, there are food places, a mini shop for groceries and the like, ping pong tables, billiards tables, etc.
2977<Rhetorical> And
2978<Rhetorical> at 2 am
2979<Rhetorical> just before finals
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2981<Vern|Pirate> If you say
2982<Vern|Pirate> That she was on your door
2983<Rhetorical> at the ping pong tables
2984<Vern|Pirate> Oh okay
2985<Vern|Pirate> Go on
2986<Rhetorical> after saying she couldn't go to weekend dance lessons at 7 pm because she needed to study
2987<Rhetorical> there stands Clare
2988<Rhetorical> playing ping pong
2989<Rhetorical> at 2 am on a school night
2990<Rhetorical> It's at this point that I catch on
2991<+Elara> did this finally smack you upside the head with a cluebat Rhet?
2992<Rhetorical> She's been avoiding me
2993<+Elara> ehe
2994<Rhetorical> Yes, I'm very bad at hints
2995<Luminifera> oh my god boys are so whiny!!!!! :/ I've had boys do much worse things than this to me, and I'm not whining here, am I? (ignore all the previous and possible future whinings)
2996<Rhetorical> Lumi pls
2997<Rhetorical> Go to class
2998<Vern|Pirate> ^
2999<krahe> ftl is great
3000<Vern|Pirate> Huh
3001<Vern|Pirate> I just realized
3002<Vern|Pirate> Grist is in Berlin
3003<Vern|Pirate> His IP is from the Freie Universität
3004<@Mishie> [21:04]    Rhetorical  She's been avoiding me
3005<@Mishie> hahahahahahaha
3006<@Mishie> hahahahahahahaaha
3007<+Elara> so, is this the end of the story Rhet? or is there more crashing and burning to come?
3008<Rhetorical> Oh, there's more
3009<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, pls
3010<Luminifera> I'm on my way to a bus I won't be able to get because it'll be too crowded
3011<Rhetorical> It's time for me to make a bad decision
3012<Rhetorical> Like, a really bad decision
3013<Luminifera> now I'm still waiting in a line for the next bus to come, which I'll hopefully get
3014<@Mishie> isn't it always?
3015<+Elara> O.o
3016<@Mishie> but yeah
3017<Rhetorical> So, I'm sleep-deprived, stressed because of finals, and upset that Clare has been avoiding me after I specifically decided to get over my crush on her
3018• Vern|Pirate: braces
3019<Luminifera> keep in mind this is the biggest bus... on this country
3020<@Mishie> as long as you kept your pants on
3021<@Mishie> during said bad decision
3022<Luminifera> omg mishie
3023<Rhetorical> So I get an awesome idea
3024<+Elara> "get over" by asking her to dancing lessons with you. Rhet pls
3025<Rhetorical> Yeah, I know
3026<Rhetorical> Hush
3027<Rhetorical> I've already beat myself up over this
3028<Rhetorical> Also, that's what Lumi said
3029<Vern|Pirate> Rhet
3030<Vern|Pirate> Write an autobiography
3031<@Mishie> is this what happens when we let mormons out into the real world?
3032<Rhetorical> Do you want to hear my awesome idea?
3033<Luminifera> hahaha mishie stop making me laugh
3034<Luminifera> I do, tell me rhey
3035<Luminifera> rhet*
3036<Vern|Pirate> YES
3037<Vern|Pirate> TELL ME
3038<Rhetorical> I decide that I will say to her, "You've been avoiding me. Did I do something wrong?"
3039<Luminifera> vern is shoving all the popcorn into his mouth, voraciously.
3040<Rhetorical> So I text her and arrange a meeting
3041<Rhetorical> And I get the first part out
3042<Rhetorical> and I freeze up
3043<@Mishie> jesus
3044<Luminifera> it was winter
3045<Vern|Pirate> Rhet no
3046<Vern|Pirate> Rhet why
3047<Vern|Pirate> Why rhet
3048<Luminifera> as you know winter in Texas is very cold
3049<Luminifera> freezing, even
3050<Rhetorical> She says she hasn't meant to avoid me, that she's just been busy
3051<Rhetorical> Her next class starts in fifteen minutes, so she has to leave no
3052<Rhetorical> now
3053<Rhetorical> That wasn't even the bad decision
3054<Rhetorical> So now I'm mad at myself for freezing up
3055<Rhetorical> I'm mad at her for lying, since she's obviously avoiding me
3056<Rhetorical> So I get a bright idea
3057<Vern|Pirate> Rhet pls
3058<Rhetorical> If I can't say it to her in person
3059<Rhetorical> I'll write her an email
3060<Rhetorical> Which, to my credit was not angry-sounding, and only a little accusative
3061<Vern|Pirate> Noooooo
3062<Rhetorical> In which I listed a few of the times she had clearly avoided me, so she can't deny it now, and ask if I did anything I need to apologize for.
3063<Rhetorical> (the irony is not lost on me)
3064<Luminifera> hahaha
3065<Luminifera> listening to you telling these things
3066<Luminifera> boys sound so a lie
3067<Luminifera> alien*
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3069<Rhetorical> She responded a couple days later
3070<@Mishie> Luminifera: no see, it's just that Rhetorical is a derp
3071<Rhetorical> ^
3072<Rhetorical> ^^
3073<@Mishie> don't make any assumptions about guys
3074<@Mishie> based on Rhetorical
3075<Vern|Pirate> Probably after asking Henry 👀
3076<@Mishie> he is very much so an anomaly
3077<+Elara> Rhet was definitely a derp in this instance. <3 you Rhet, but you derped out pretty badly in this saga
3078<Rhetorical> Funny you should say that, Vern
3079<@Mishie> in every sense of the word
3080<Rhetorical> I know Elara
3081<Rhetorical> It's so obvious in retrospect
3082<@Mishie> tl;dr
3083<@Mishie> Rhetorical evolved into Rhetnote
3084<Rhetorical> Her response included a few things
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3086<@Mishie> like how you're a creepy stalker?
3087<Vern|Pirate> Write an autobiography man. The cringe compilation by Rhet
3088<Rhetorical> For one, when she had broken up with Henry at the start of the fall before, it hit her hard
3089<Rhetorical> So much so that it made her physically uncomfortable to be around couples doing couple things
3090<Luminifera> I make a lot of assumptions about guys based on vern
3091<Luminifera> :D
3092<Rhetorical> Like, for instance, dancing
3093<Vern|Pirate> Did your know they broke up?
3094<Vern|Pirate> Shut up, Lumi
3095<Rhetorical> I knew that it ended sometime between the middle of summer and the start of uni
3096<Rhetorical> I didn't know the circumstances
3097<Rhetorical> Also, this breakup had left her wanting to not engage in any more relationships for quite some time
3098<Luminifera> oh boy
3099<Rhetorical> Which is, of course, entirely understandable
3100<Luminifera> tell him Rhet
3101<Vern|Pirate> Tell me
3102<Vern|Pirate> Tell me Rhet
3103<Rhetorical> And she thought I was trying to talk to her to get together with her
3104<Vern|Pirate> Tell me she turned lesbian or something
3105<Rhetorical> Which again, is somewhat understandable
3106<Rhetorical> Pm me, Lumi
3107<Rhetorical> which part?
3108• Vern|Pirate: is waiting
3109<Rhetorical> Also she mentioned that the two guys she was playing ping pong with had made it very clear they were not interested in her romantically
3110<Rhetorical> So she felt safe around them
3111<Rhetorical> Implying that she did not feel safe around me
3112<Vern|Pirate> So
3113<Rhetorical> :\
3114<Vern|Pirate> Rhet is a sexual predator
3115<krahe> http://craziestgadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/julius-caesar-knife-block.jpg
3116<Rhetorical> Anyways, that was six months ago
3117<Rhetorical> The end
3118<krahe> simply genius
3119<Vern|Pirate> What a bitch
3120<@Mishie> [21:20]    Rhetorical  Implying that she did not feel safe around me
3121<krahe> >knife block
3122<Rhetorical> Yeah, Mishie
3123<Vern|Pirate> You dodged a bullet there, man. She probably had syphilis or something.
3124<Rhetorical> I have three younger sisters
3125<Rhetorical> A girl saying she doesn't feel safe around me hurts
3126<Vern|Pirate> Or a puffy vagina
3127<Luminifera> tick
3128<Luminifera> tock
3129<Luminifera> tick
3130<Luminifera> tock
3131<Rhetorical> Lumi, I'm not sure what part you're talking about
3132<Rhetorical> PM me
3133<Luminifera> don't talk shit about my genitals vern
3134<Luminifera> I will cut you
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3136<Vern|Pirate> Lumi has a puffy vagina confirmed.
3137<Vern|Pirate> Hi Megafire
3138<Vern|Pirate> Okay, that was a show of trust
3139<Rhetorical> Thus ends the tale of Rhet and Clare
3140<Megafire> Wow.
3141<Megafire> What a sentence to join the channel on.
3142<Vern|Pirate> I'll give you one of my stories in exchange when I'm home again, Rhet
3143<Megafire> Sup Vern.
3144<Rhetorical> In which everyone fucks up
3145<@Mishie> Rhetorical: no uh
3146<@Mishie> it was just you man
3147<Rhetorical> I dunno
3148<Rhetorical> I blame Henry, too
3149<krahe> chat is weird today
3150<krahe> not the weirdest
3151<Rhetorical> Maybe I should call him up and yell at him
3152<krahe> but still
3153<@Mishie> Rhetorical
3154<@Mishie> how many of your problems have you caused
3155<@Mishie> by doing things
3156<Rhetorical> Just this one, really
3157<Rhetorical> I like to think I've learned from it
3158<Luminifera> I have no idea what a puffy vagina even is
3159<Rhetorical> You know
3160<Rhetorical> saying that
3161<Luminifera> and it sounds very anatomically improbable, given that the vagina is a tube
3162<Rhetorical> will get you pictures in PM
3163<Rhetorical> I'm assuming he's talking about the labia
3164<Rhetorical> Oh yeah
3165<Rhetorical> I found out how Henry and Clare broke up
3166<Vern|Pirate> Someone tell Grist he should try irc cloud in case I don't see him coming back?
3167<Vern|Pirate> I need to talk to him
3168<Rhetorical> Through my mom, who heard it from someone, who heard it from someone
3169<Luminifera> ^
3170<@Mishie> Luminifera: go google it
3171<Rhetorical> So Clare, Clare's family, and Henry's family flew up to New York, where Henry is at Uni
3172<Luminifera> nope I won't :P I bet vern meant puffy labia, probably infected.
3173<Rhetorical> For some sort of promise thingy
3174<Rhetorical> Like a mini-engagement, I think
3175<Rhetorical> Some Christian Courtship thing
3176<Luminifera> and I definitely will not discuss anatomical details of my genitalia on this chat
3177<Luminifera> rhet what's Christian courtship.?
3178<Luminifera> cause the name sounds adorable
3179<Rhetorical> Alternative to dating
3180<Rhetorical> Involving lots of parental supervision, I think, at least in some forms
3181<Rhetorical> Anyways
3182<Rhetorical> Henry got cold feet, apparently
3183<Rhetorical> And broke up with her right then
3184• Rhetorical: pokes Elara
3185• Rhetorical: looks at the time
3186<Rhetorical> o_o
3187<Vern|Pirate> Rhet, I think Elara stopped caring :p
3188<Vern|Pirate> You're an adult
3189<Vern|Pirate> If you want to fail classes due to lack of sleep, that's your responsibility
3190<Rhetorical> Your encouragement is uplifting, Vern
3191<Vern|Pirate> But yeah, I'll offer you one of my shit stories to hear when you're more awake
3192<Rhetorical> Yeah, so those are the two big dramas of my life
3193<Rhetorical> One almost entirely my fault, the other not at all
3194<+Elara> I was on the phone bitches
3195<Rhetorical> <3
3196<+Elara> Rhet you are a derp, but probably better off not dating someone whose family are into Courtship
3197• Vern|Pirate: wonders if Grist will ever come back
3198<+Elara> that shit is pretty wacky
3199<Rhetorical> I think it's Henry's family that proposed it, but yeah
3200<Vern|Pirate> Think positively
3201<Rhetorical> I've all but given up on ever fixing this
3202<Vern|Pirate> Even if you have to lie to yourself
3203<Vern|Pirate> Henry probably got her prego and they had a secret abortion
3204<+Elara> fixing what Rhet?
3205soulpelt|sleep is now known as soulpelt|
3206<Rhetorical> I think I still need to apologize for being a derp
3207<Vern|Pirate> You don't. Not in full at least.  Part of the blame lies with Henry
3208<Rhetorical> I've called him once
3209<Luminifera> whenever I listen to 'as long as you're mine' I think of skrue and I laugh so much...
3210<Rhetorical> He had to go because he was at a uni-mandated event
3211<Luminifera> you do need to apologize anyway
3212<+Elara> Rhet no
3213<Luminifera> :/
3214<+Elara> no you don't
3215<+Elara> it's over
3216<Luminifera> not like, kneel at her and beg her for forgiveness
3217<Vern|Pirate> Rhet stahp
3218<+Elara> it's done
3219<Rhetorical> He called me again this past summer, neither of us mentioned anything
3220<Vern|Pirate> Rhet what r u doing
3221<Vern|Pirate> Rhet no
3222<Vern|Pirate> This is a clearly toxic environment, Rhet.
3223<+Elara> that is the way - if you still connect and get on with these people, Henry or Clare or both, do that
3224<Luminifera> just keep on good terms with her... say hey, sorry for that email. I hadn't known. I'll back off
3225<Vern|Pirate> You need better friends
3226<+Elara> don't try to bring it up
3227<Vern|Pirate> Like me
3228<Vern|Pirate> I'll tell you to get laid while also disliking relationships
3229<Rhetorical> I've said hi to her a few time when we've passed in hallways or on sidewalks
3230<Rhetorical> She's said hi back
3231<soulpelt|> ...
3232<Rhetorical> Don't scroll up, spelt
3233<Vern|Pirate> No Rhet
3234<Vern|Pirate> Just no
3235<Vern|Pirate> Stop it
3236<+Elara> Rhet go sleep
3237<soulpelt|> someone give me a tl;dr?
3238<Rhetorical> Rhet is a derp
3239<Vern|Pirate> I'm not going to tell you how to live your life
3240<+Elara> Rhet had a crush
3241<+Elara> it ended badly
3242<Rhetorical> In all things crush-related
3243<Luminifera> eh idk. I like full disclosure.
3244<soulpelt|> D:
3245<Vern|Pirate> But in this case I have to tell you how to live your life
3246<Luminifera> I like communication
3247<Luminifera> better than just letting things go by in awkward silences
3248<Rhetorical> Her response last spring did end with a "if you want to get coffee to talk about this, we can"
3249<Luminifera> and getting that bitter taste in your mouth whenever you remember what happened
3250<Rhetorical> I haven't taken her up on it yet
3251<Luminifera> :/
3252• Vern|Pirate: is trying to make a smiley with his tears on the floor
3253<Luminifera> vern you're so whiney.
3254• soulpelt|: is confused
3255<soulpelt|> I need food
3256<+Elara> too late now Rhet. either say "hey Clare wanna get coffee" or ignore it
3257<Vern|Pirate> I'm not, I just have an infected eye
3258<Luminifera> I bet you're infp or something like that
3259<Luminifera> but I never met such an insensitive infp. maybe you're just istp like I suspect...
3260<Rhetorical> On the bright side, this whole experience pretty much completely destroyed my crush
3261<Vern|Pirate> Good
3262<+Elara> \o/
3263<Vern|Pirate> Now you need strange fetishes
3264<Vern|Pirate> And you are a healthy young man
3265<Rhetorical> I mean, if I met her now, I'd probably still date her
3266<Rhetorical> But yeah
3267<Rhetorical> No more crush
3268<+Elara> now go get a crush on some girl and *ask her out* without going through this whole weird process
3269<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
3270<@Nae> lol
3271<Megafire> Damn, that was a really good Twig chapter.
3272<+Elara> (or some boy or non-binary or whatever, I ain't judging )
3273• Vern|Pirate: remembers the guy who asked 1000 random women on the he street if they wanted to have sex
3274<Vern|Pirate> 2 said yes.
3275<Rhetorical> O
3276<@Nae> he literally asked a thousand women?
3277<Rhetorical> I'm going to go with girl, I think, Elara
3278<Vern|Pirate> Yeah
3279<Vern|Pirate> There was a video and everything
3280<Vern|Pirate> He counted them
3281<@Nae> I mean of course 2 said yes - at some point it becomes a numbers game
3282<Vern|Pirate> German youtuber
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3284<Olivebirdy> Lot of effort
3285<@Nae> would've thought the number would be high tho
3286<Olivebirdy> Also, yeah.
3287<@Nae> at least 20
3288<@Nae> out of a 1000
3289<Megafire> Oh, I think 1 in 10 people will say 'yes' if you ask them out.
3290<+Elara> depends how creepy seeming he is Nae
3291<Megafire> Like, baseline.
3292<Vern|Pirate> Well, he only hit on attractive ones, I think
3293<@Nae> that would be 2%
3294<@Nae> doesn't matter Vern
3295<Vern|Pirate> He was not bad looking
3296<Rhetorical> Who was I discussing the preponderance of gingers among my crushes with?
3297<Rhetorical> Was it Panda?
3298<Olivebirdy> maybe he would have more luck shouting into bars?
3299<Vern|Pirate> But nothing stellar either
3300<@Nae> law of large numbers crushes attraction
3301<Rhetorical> Or was it Vern?
3302<Olivebirdy> "Somebody in here want to have sex?"
3303<Vern|Pirate> Not it
3304<Megafire> There was an SSC post on it.
3305<Rhetorical> Hmm
3306<Rhetorical> Because Clare is a redhead
3307<+Elara> Olive, the answer will be a shouted "Not with you darlin'", everyone laughs, the end
3308<Rhetorical> (for certain definitions of redhead)
3309<Vern|Pirate> Clare is also a bad person for you
3310<Vern|Pirate> Choose better women.
3311<Olivebirdy> Ooh, that would have bee a nice rejoinder,
3312<Vern|Pirate> Like Luminifera
3313<@Nae> yeah
3314<Luminifera> I imagine 998 girls felt very offended
3315<@Nae> choose girls in another continent
3316<@Nae> that'd work
3317<Olivebirdy> But then ice is broken, he comes in,then someone comes over to talk to him.
3318<Rhetorical> Yeah, great idea Vern
3319• Nae: looks at Vern
3320<Luminifera> honestly if a random guy on the street asked me to have sex with him,
3321<Vern|Pirate> Always works
3322<Rhetorical> Very practival
3323<Rhetorical> *practical
3324<Vern|Pirate> :|
3325<Luminifera> I think I'd start panicking.
3326<Olivebirdy> How different a reaction would you have if someone asked you for directions?
3327<Luminifera> it was panda
3328<Luminifera> and Clare looks blonde
3329<+Elara> I would say no to all the men asking me to have sex with them, so y'know, there's that
3330<Rhetorical> Hey Elara
3331<Luminifera> same lara
3332<Luminifera> what the hell
3333<Vern|Pirate> Would you say no to all women? ;D
3334<Luminifera> random stranger
3335<Rhetorical> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
3336<Olivebirdy> Elara, you are not in the target zone.
3337<Luminifera> elara is taken.
3338<Megafire> I'd say that to all the men, too.
3339<Luminifera> hello olive
3340<Olivebirdy> Hey Lumi
3341• Vern|Pirate: would say that to almost all men
3342<+Elara> hell no Vern, just most
3343<Megafire> And I'd probably reflexively say it to all women, too.
3344<@Nae> nobody asks me :'(
3345<Megafire> Because my immediate response is to not do anything weird.
3346<Olivebirdy> I would think about it a bit.
3347<Vern|Pirate> Because you're supposed to have an arranged marriage, Nae
3348<@Nae> what Olive means is: "I would judge based on how hot the person asking is"
3349<Vern|Pirate> Bollywood taught me that
3350<Olivebirdy> Hm, do I feel like having sex with this person?
3351<Rhetorical> Really though, Nae, who wouldn't?
3352<@Nae> yep
3353<@Nae> I know I would.
3354<@Nae> XD
3355<Vern|Pirate> Megafire: thing with women asking that is
3356<@Nae> Vern: D:
3357<@Nae> they never do?
3358<Vern|Pirate> Imagine they're trying to guilt you into taking care of the baby they're hiding!
3359<@Nae> lol
3360<Megafire> I'm autistic, Vern, that shit don't work on me.
3361<Megafire> I guilt-trip myself, I don't let others guilt-trip me.
3362<Vern|Pirate> Heh
3363<Rhetorical> It's like a superpower
3364<Rhetorical> Except not really
3365<Rhetorical> :\
3366<Megafire> Anyway, I feel your pain, Rhet.
3367<Luminifera> WHY would I have sex with a stranger
3368<Luminifera> 1: weird.
3369<Vern|Pirate> Come on Rhet
3370<Luminifera> 2: scary
3371<Vern|Pirate> You got us
3372<+Elara> if you were really horny Lumi
3373<Luminifera> 3: just no
3374<+Elara> ehe
3375<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
3376<Vern|Pirate> Your problem is
3377<Luminifera> 4: I'm not attracted to people I don't know
3378<Vern|Pirate> You are repulsed by all things sexual
3379<Olivebirdy> Okay, 'just no' is irrational.
3380<Luminifera> I'm just not
3381<Luminifera> vern
3382<Rhetorical> Hey Lumi
3383<Luminifera> ... I'm not gonna answer this
3384<Luminifera> :)
3385<Vern|Pirate> You're not the kind of person who fits into the scheme
3386<@Nae> sex with strangers can be a turn on tbh
3387<@Nae> depends entirely on the stranger
3388<+Elara> Vern you're rude
3389<Rhetorical> Depends on how you define stranger
3390<Vern|Pirate> All is okay until the two meter tall and super attractive guy asks you to call him daddy
3391<Rhetorical> ...
3392<@Nae> LOL
3393<Vern|Pirate> And even then it's okay if you're into that
3394<Olivebirdy> HAhaa
3395<Olivebirdy> :)
3396• Olivebirdy: sighs
3397<Olivebirdy> I'm bored.
3398<Rhetorical> Aaaand it's 7 in the morning
3399<Olivebirdy> Who wants to play a game?
3400<Vern|Pirate> Tell us about your first crush, Olivebirdy
3401<Olivebirdy> Hmm
3402<Olivebirdy> Let's see...
3403<Vern|Pirate> Was she Jewish?
3404<Olivebirdy> Never really had much of a crush on anyone, really.
3405<Vern|Pirate> 🇩🇪
3406<Megafire> Man, you are on a roll today, Vern.
3407<@Nae> this feels decidedly like a high school convo
3408<@Nae> also lies Olivebirdy
3409<Olivebirdy> There was a guy I used to blush aroud.
3410<@Nae> such lies
3411<Vern|Pirate> Some people aren't emotionless robots like you, nae
3412<Vern|Pirate> Some people can feel true love
3413<@Nae> oi
3414<Olivebirdy> And a couple of girls I wanted to be close to.
3415<@Nae> I've felt true love
3416<@Nae> or so I thought
3417<Olivebirdy> Other than that, not really.
3418<Vern|Pirate> With who? Rose Tyler?
3419<Vern|Pirate> :P
3420<@Nae> <_<
3421<@Nae> >_>
3422<Vern|Pirate> V.V
3423<@Nae> eh, it's been years. She's probably married now.
3424<Rhetorical> Alright
3425<@Nae> last I heard she was engaged
3426<Rhetorical> Bed time
3427<@Nae> sigh
3428<Rhetorical> o/
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3430<Vern|Pirate> Probably is
3431Rhetorical is now known as Rhet|sleep
3432<Vern|Pirate> David Tennant too... Sigh
3433<Olivebirdy> I mean, Lumi has described to me that a crush is like thinking about people all the time, making you happy...
3434<Vern|Pirate> Hi rid
3435<Olivebirdy> I've never been that into it.
3436<Vern|Pirate> No, that's not what a crush is
3437<@Nae> eh
3438<@Nae> kinda is
3439<@Nae> infatuation
3440<@Nae> you're always thinking about them
3441<@Nae> waiting for the phone to ring
3442<@Nae> etc etc
3443<Luminifera> 8:52 AM <Vern|Pirate> All is okay until the two meter tall and super attractive guy asks you to call him daddy
3444<Vern|Pirate> It seems Lumi jumps right over the slope into obsession :p
3445<Olivebirdy> Nope, not me.
3446<@Nae> puppy love basically
3447<Luminifera> then I'd say
3448<Luminifera> you're not my dad.
3449<Vern|Pirate> You should say 'daddy's bigger than you'
3450<Vern|Pirate> That'd teach him.
3451<Olivebirdy> Lumi is a very literal person.
3452<Luminifera> my dad is 183 cm tall
3453<Rhet|sleep> You should not say that
3454<Luminifera> thus not bigger
3455<Vern|Pirate> That's not what I meant :,^ ]
3456<Luminifera> and I stopped calling him daddy years ago
3457<Olivebirdy> I repeat, <Olivebirdy> Lumi is a very literal person.
3458<@Nae> XD
3459<@Nae> lolol
3460<@Nae> what Olivebirdy said
3461<@Nae> so literal
3462<Luminifera> what did you mean then?
3463<Vern|Pirate> True enough.
3464<Vern|Pirate> Lumi will never understand innuendo
3465<Olivebirdy> He meant penis size.
3466<@Nae> reminds me of Batista
3467<@Nae> in Guardians of the Galaxy
3468<Rhet|sleep> Nothing goes over my head
3469<Vern|Pirate> Things like this go right over Lumi's head
3470<Olivebirdy> I was thinking of Batista, from Dexter.
3471<Rhet|sleep> Bastila
3472<Rhet|sleep> from KoTOR
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3474<Olivebirdy> Gaaaame
3475<Rhet|sleep> Sleeep
3476<Rhet|sleep> o/
3477<Olivebirdy> bye
3478<Olivebirdy> o/
3479<@Nae> \o
3480<soulpelt|> \o/
3481<Olivebirdy> What do you guys know about New Orleans?
3482<@Nae> it's a shithole
3483<Olivebirdy> It is?
3484<Luminifera> our new philosophy teacher kinda looks like bow
3485<@Nae> also, known for Jazz
3486<Olivebirdy> All I know about it is that it is considered sexy, and that there ae drive-thru daiquiris.
3487<@Nae> what's a daiquiri
3488<+Elara> a rum based cocktail
3489<Vern|Pirate> Something Jewish I get
3490<Olivebirdy> Alchoholic slushy.
3491<Vern|Pirate> Bet
3492<+Elara> rum, lime and fruit juice
3493<Vern|Pirate> Jewish slushy
3494<Olivebirdy> ?
3495<@Nae> Vern stop being so German
3496<Olivebirdy> Not a slushy?
3497<@Nae> your Nazi ancestry is showing
3498<Vern|Pirate> Wow, ruse
3499<Vern|Pirate> Rude
3500<+Elara> it's Caribbean Vern you numpty, stop being Jewish-obsessed
3501<Olivebirdy> then what's the alcholic slushy called?
3502<Vern|Pirate> Stop being do British, you island ape.
3503<Vern|Pirate> >¦|
3504<+Elara> Olive it can have ice in it, anywhere from a couple of cubes to filling the glass, but the point of it is rum and fruit juice
3505• Elara: doesn't know, there are hundreds of cocktails
3506<@Nae> I need to learn more about drinks
3507<@Nae> and fine dining
3508<@Nae> every time I go out with rich friends, they have to recc me stuff
3509<Olivebirdy> So, the consensus is that nobody knows much about New Orleans.
3510<Vern|Pirate> Nobody gives a fuck about new Orleans, it seems.
3511<Vern|Pirate> Let's talk about more interesting places
3512<Olivebirdy> Also, I want an alchoholic slushy, though I would settle for a daiquiri.
3513<Vern|Pirate> Like Berlin
3514<+Elara> oh, missed your question there Olive
3515<@Nae> what's interesting in Berlin
3516<Vern|Pirate> Nothing
3517<Vern|Pirate> It's a pretty average city
3518<Vern|Pirate> Sure we got some gardens
3519<@Nae> https://i.imgur.com/7exuxg2.gifv
3520<Vern|Pirate> We got a bunch of nice buildings
3521<@Nae> Pope and Baby Pope
3522<@Nae> XD
3523<Vern|Pirate> But nothing you'd find nowhere else
3524<+Elara> I've heard New Orleans is a very interesting city, lovely bits, plenty of history, a lot of modern poverty and deprived bits
3525<Olivebirdy> So far, sounds pretty good for WD.
3526<Vern|Pirate> Still planning on your quest?
3527<Vern|Pirate> I recommend using a place you know more about
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3529<Olivebirdy> Thinking about it a bit.
3530<+Elara> being on the Mississippi and a major port, there's a lot of stuff going through
3531<Olivebirdy> How important is knowing the place well?
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3534<Vern|Pirate> Like drugs
3535<Olivebirdy> Smuggling?
3536<Vern|Pirate> Very
3537<+Elara> helps for giving it local flavour Olive
3538<Olivebirdy> Point.
3539<+Elara> visiting and paying attention would probably be good enough tho :P
3540<Olivebirdy> I could do an Israel one, but I don't want to get int all the stuff.
3541<Luminifera> ohhh
3542<Luminifera> why not?
3543<Olivebirdy> Also, I don't feel like getting lynched.
3544<Vern|Pirate> WD Auschwitz
3545<Olivebirdy> OI!
3546<Vern|Pirate> Why would you get lynched?
3547<+Elara> hahaha yes, avoiding Israel A+ excellent idea
3548<Luminifera> vern
3549<Luminifera> :/
3550<Vern|Pirate> Lumi
3551<Vern|Pirate> :V
3552<Olivebirdy> Vern, the Internet is a different place than Germany.
3553<+Elara> either that or worldbuild an alternative Scion-caused history of Israel-Palestine that leads to a majorly different situation to OTL
3554<Olivebirdy> ...More Nazis, for one :v
3555<+Elara> but honestly that sounds like a fuck of a lot of work
3556<Megafire> Yes.
3557<Megafire> Too much of it.
3558<Olivebirdy> I could do that, /if/ 'bow were willing to give me more WoG.\
3559<Vern|Pirate> Okay, I redact my earlier statement just run WD Israel on Anonkun.com
3560<Olivebirdy> Fuck no!
3561<Vern|Pirate> :P
3562<Olivebirdy> >:(
3563<Vern|Pirate> But the anonymity
3564<Olivebirdy> hahahaa
3565<Olivebirdy> It would be hilarious, though....
3566<Vern|Pirate> WD Auschwitz is the alternative
3567<Olivebirdy> oh god, Vern, why do you do this to me?
3568<Vern|Pirate> Also, general rule of thumb for WD
3569<Olivebirdy> Also, fuck off, Vern.
3570<Vern|Pirate> Make some shit up
3571<Vern|Pirate> Make a lot of shit up
3572<Olivebirdy> Good plan.
3573<Vern|Pirate> Because wildbow is generally trolling
3574<+Elara> you don't need WoG from 'Bow Olive
3575<Vern|Pirate> Like when he told me to do old Berlin without any nazis or references to them
3576<Megafire> Heh.
3577<Megafire> And you followed through.
3578<Olivebirdy> Ah.
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3580<Olivebirdy> Alright, I'll think up waht to o.
3581<Vern|Pirate> OK, ok
3582<Vern|Pirate> A compromise
3583<Vern|Pirate> WD Stalingrad
3584<+Elara> I mean, I got a bit from him for Fulcrum, but I've done a bunch since then without anything more from Bow
3585• Olivebirdy: glares suspiciously at Vern.
3586<+Elara> Olive where have you visited that isn't Israel?
3587<Vern|Pirate> Imagine all the freezing Shaker
3588<Olivebirdy> New York?
3589<Olivebirdy> Florida.
3590<Vern|Pirate> Shakers*
3591<Olivebirdy> That's about it.
3592<+Elara> ok, so you could do an American game of some kind
3593<Olivebirdy> Yeah.
3594<soulpelt|fud> Do Israel and wing it
3595<+Elara> that, or brush up your 80s politics and come up with an alternate timeline
3596<Olivebirdy> Honestly, I like the idea of doing a smut-based quest in New Orleans.
3597<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
3598<soulpelt|fud> Of bow says it wrong then he can bugger off
3599<soulpelt|fud> *if
3600<Vern|Pirate> If you want to run something smut based
3601<+Elara> Blushy likes that idea, at least
3602<Vern|Pirate> Just run on QQ
3603<soulpelt|fud> Blushy, no
3604<O\\\O> Blushy Yes!
3605<Luminifera> ugh
3606<Luminifera> if I'm gonna do WD curitiba someday, I'd def need to brush up on 80s politics
3607<Luminifera> since we were a dictatorship at the time
3608<Luminifera> and then it was over and huge economic complications happened
3609<Luminifera> blehhh
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3611<Olive> Bleh, Internet went out.
3612<Luminifera> smut based quest?
3613<Luminifera> :/
3614<Olive> Yep.
3615<Luminifera> sounds like ack fic
3616<Luminifera> ewww
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3618<Olive> I would hope to do better than Ack.
3619<Olive> I dislike his characterizations.
3620Olive is now known as Olivebirdy
3621<+Elara> Lumi if you're trying to set something like that up, I can throw some ideas around with you
3622<Olivebirdy> You know how San Francisco became the place to go for gay people?
3623<Olivebirdy> I'm thinking of setting up something like that.
3624<+Elara> I know very little about 80s Brazil, but I'm pretty good on the 80s in general and I've just done a load of this shit for Fulcrum
3625<Olivebirdy> All the alternative lifestyle parahumans coming to one place.
3626<Megafire> Eh, I had some fun figuring out Zuid-Limburg, but filling it up with capes was tedious.
3627<Olivebirdy> Zuid-Limburg?
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3629<soulpelt|fud> Poor Belhamel ;_;
3630<Megafire> Zuid-Limburg is the part of the Netherlands I live in.
3631<soulpelt|fud> Luminifera: I think the dictatorship would've had a cape uprising
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3633<Shem_Phone> Eve!
3634<Shem_Phone> ning
3635<Luminifera> oookay
3636<Olivebirdy> I'm reading up on New Orleans, and it really sounds fascinating.
3637<Luminifera> I think i got this shit
3638<Luminifera> chemical balance
3639<Luminifera> beautiful.
3640<Shem_Phone> What shit?
3641<Shem_Phone> Ahhhh science
3642<Luminifera> no idea what it's called in english
3643<Shem_Phone> What's it called in Brazil speak?
3644<Luminifera> you know when you have that equation and the things keep transforming into other things and the other things keep transforming back into things
3645<Luminifera> equilíbrio químico
3646<+Elara> equilibrium reaction
3647<Shem_Phone> Huh
3648<+Elara> or chemical equilibrium
3649<+Elara> (I love that chemical is quimico, that's quite a pretty word <3)
3650<Luminifera> nice!
3651<Luminifera> :D
3652<Luminifera> guhhh so board
3653<Vern|Pirate> Fuck
3654<Vern|Pirate> So uh
3655<Vern|Pirate> I was at the eye doctor again
3656<Luminifera> and
3657<theACEbabana> @Lumi: You're feeling wooden?
3658<Luminifera> what happened?
3659<Luminifera> I'm bored ace banana :/
3660<Luminifera> I don't feel wooden
3661<Luminifera> how does that even make sense
3662<Luminifera> humans are made of meat
3663<theACEbabana> "Wooden board"
3664<Olivebirdy> What happened, Vern?
3665<Olivebirdy> You okay?
3666<Luminifera> I'm not pinocchio
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3669<Luminifera> verny boy
3670<Vern|Pirate> And it seems that under the puss of the hordeolum
3671<Olivebirdy> ...?
3672<Luminifera> as much as you disgust me, I worry about you
3673<Vern|Pirate> I got something else
3674<Megafire> ...
3675<theACEbabana> A board is a long, flat piece of wood, right?
3676<theACEbabana> I was making a joke.
3677<Luminifera> yes ace
3678<Luminifera> sorry
3679<Vern|Pirate> Apparently I'm the proud owner of herpes on my eye
3680<Luminifera> I didn't get it
3681<Luminifera> wow vern
3682<Megafire> Ew.
3683<Luminifera> how does that even happen
3684<Megafire> What the hell, Vern
3685<Olivebirdy> Oh boy.
3686<Vern|Pirate> Good question, apparently not sexually transmitted :|
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3688<Shem_Phone> Phew
3689<Olivebirdy> Oof, that sucks. Is it chronic?
3690• theACEbabana: has lost his appetite for breakfast
3691<Shem_Phone> The sexually transmitted version of eye herpes is much worse
3692<Vern|Pirate> Not chronic, and not that dangerous either
3693<theACEbabana> How soon till you're better, Vern?
3694<Vern|Pirate> It's just that the medicine she gave me was to treat the hordeolum
3695<Vern|Pirate> Not the herpes so I need to use the other medicines from now on
3696<theACEbabana> Sounds like a lot of pills.
3697<Vern|Pirate> It's painful
3698<Vern|Pirate> Nah, it's a creme I have to apply directly to my eyeball
3699<theACEbabana> *Shivers* I get antsy whenever anything gets close to my eyes. Does it sting?
3700<Shem_Phone> Eye's cream!
3701<Vern|Pirate> It burns
3702<Vern|Pirate> It burns horribly
3703<theACEbabana> What doesn't kill you makes you stronger?
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3706<Vern|Pirate> No
3707<Vern|Pirate> It burns
3708<theACEbabana> Do you still have to attend classes?
3709<Vern|Pirate> And I can use the fact that my eye is teary anyway as an excuse
3710<Vern|Pirate> I need to, or I'll fail the semester
3711<Luminifera> :( aw vern
3712<Luminifera> I really hope you get better soon
3713<Shem_Phone> Get better soon!
3714<theACEbabana> ^Seconded.
3715<cukier> Be like a Lung and let someone tear your eyes away.
3716<cukier> Something you don't have can't hurt.
3717<Vern|Pirate> But cuck
3718<theACEbabana> *Gouge your eyes out
3719<Vern|Pirate> I only have eyes for David Tennant
3720<Shem_Phone> Check for maggots first
3721<Vern|Pirate> But yeah
3722<cukier> Gouge. I like that word.
3723<Vern|Pirate> This kinda sucks
3724<Vern|Pirate> It sucks hard
3725<Luminifera> hahaha
3726<Shem_Phone> You can still make eye puns, right?: /
3727<cukier> Eye think so Shem.
3728<theACEbabana> Well, I have to head to class. See you guys later!
3729<@Mishie> [22:40]    cukier  Be like a Lung and let someone tear your eyes away.
3730<@Mishie> Vern|Pirate will never be like Lungs
3731<@Mishie> not enough drugs
3732<@Mishie> ;)
3733theACEbabana is now known as theACEbabana|Class
3734<+Elara> poor Vern and his fucked eye
3735<Luminifera> see ya ace banana
3736• Vern|Pirate: rubs bis eye all over Lumi
3737<Vern|Pirate> I just realized
3738<Vern|Pirate> With a usually sexually transmitted virus, I'm one step closer to beings true pirate
3739<Megafire> Oh shit.
3740<Megafire> ...
3741<+Elara> ...Vern
3742<@Glernaj> Vern, you have ocular herpes?
3743<Vern|Pirate> Yes
3744<@Mishie> Vern|Pirate: stop turning into Rhet|sleep
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3746<@Glernaj> congratulations on your pinkeye!
3747<Vern|Pirate> It was hidden under puss from a Hordeolum or something
3748<Vern|Pirate> It's a super infection
3749pantherasapiens is now known as panth
3750<panth> ;o
3751<@Glernaj> Although, did you get actual ocular herpes, or did you manage to get genital herpes on your eye?
3752<@Glernaj> They're both possible
3753<panth> So THAT's what the Pirate was referring to
3754<Megafire> So, as a result of Rhet's, hmm, let's call them 'woes', I've been rereading some of my favourite SSC posts: 'Radicalising the Romanceless' and 'Untitled'.
3755<@Glernaj> Rhet has woes now?
3756<cukier> panth: Herpes makes you download illegal multimedia.
3757<Vern|Pirate> Ocular herpes, Rhet
3758<@Mishie> Glernaj: he goofed
3759<Vern|Pirate> Uh
3760<Vern|Pirate> Glernaj
3761<Vern|Pirate> Not Rhet
3762<@Glernaj> oh man, what did he do Mishie?
3763<Olivebirdy> SSC?
3764<@Mishie> uh
3765<Vern|Pirate> Fuck this buuurns
3766<@Mishie> just look up
3767<Vern|Pirate> This BUUUUURNS
3768<@Mishie> or get logs
3769<Shem_Phone> Or a cyclops
3770<Megafire> SlateStarCodex.
3771<@Mishie> ask Vern|Pirate
3772<panth> ...ah
3773<@Mishie> he was there from the start
3774• Vern|Pirate: tips out his eyes
3775<@Glernaj> I only logged in 10 minutes ago!
3776<panth> Vern|Pirate: mind giving me logs of Rhet's story ;o
3777<@Glernaj> I can't look up very far!
3778<Vern|Pirate> Too long didn't read
3779<panth> Pleeeeeease
3780<Shem_Phone> Neither can he,  glern
3781<Vern|Pirate> Rhet fucked up about a girl he had a crush on
3782<Vern|Pirate> Wow Shem
3783<Vern|Pirate> Wow
3784<Vern|Pirate> That was a low blow
3785<Shem_Phone> I try
3786<+Elara> I'll grab the logs and paste bin 'em
3787<+Elara> gimme a tick
3788<Shem_Phone> Vernocular is a word, right?
3789<Megafire> Oh wow, Shem.
3790<Megafire> That is the best pun.
3791<Vern|Pirate> :|
3792<+Elara> http://pastebin.com/uZqek7Za <- Rhet's crush story, for those who were interested
3793<panth> Elara is best Elara
3794<+Elara> Mega I didn't like those posts on SSC, as best I remember them
3795<panth> Shem_Phone: Vernacular actually
3796<panth> But close enough
3797<Shem_Phone> What does it mean?
3798<+Elara> crude
3799<Megafire> I may have been closer to the target audience than you, Elara.
3800<+Elara> or widely spoken
3801<+Elara> possibly so; I guess reading them *knowing* that Scott is generally hostile to feminism doesn't help
3802<Megafire> I can imagine.
3803<Megafire> Given that, around that time, I was pretty hostile to feminism myself, that would explain why I remember them fondly.
3804<@Glernaj> [07:54] <Shem_Phone> What does it mean? <- vernacular is common speech or slang
3805<Luminifera> rhet liked a girl in high school. he never talked to her about it. she was dating his friend and he didn't even know it. eventually they got to uni. she and rhet go to the same uni. her bf goes to another state. one day her family and the bf's family fly to visit the bf with plans of going steady. bf breaks up with her right then. meanwhile rhet keeps trying
3806<Luminifera> to dance with her or go out with her and she keeps refusing him. eventually he gets fed up and emails her asking why she was avoiding him. she tells him the stuff and says she didn't want a relationship now and could see that he had those intentions towards her. she also offered for them to meet some day to talk. he still hasn't answered to this day. every
3807<Luminifera> once in a while they bump into each other and say 'hi' and go their own ways. rhet says he's gotten over her. the end.
3808<Luminifera> whew. there, I summed it up for ya
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3810<+Elara> and what happened Mega, you got better?
3811<Luminifera> 9:56 AM <Megafire> Given that, around that time, I was pretty hostile to feminism myself, that would explain why I remember them fondly.
3812<Luminifera> eww
3813<Megafire> No.
3814<Luminifera> anti-fem boys are the absolute worst
3815<Megafire> Then I am the absolute worst.
3816<Luminifera> :/
3817<+Elara> I like how you say "Rhet says he's gotten over her" Lumi, because I agree he clearly hasn't
3818<Luminifera> xD
3819<Luminifera> he SAYS he did.
3820<Luminifera> that's what I said
3821<cukier> What should I do if sigkill doesn't kill a process?
3822<Luminifera> mega care to explain why? :P
3823<@Mishie> Elara: no really?
3824<@Mishie> :P
3825<Luminifera> cuki: cry
3826<Megafire> I used to be a feminist.
3827<cukier> ;(
3828• cukier: sobs.
3829<Luminifera> hmm
3830<Luminifera> nah
3831<Megafire> Turns out I don't do well with many of their tactics.
3832<Luminifera> you're a boy, aren't you?
3833<cukier> I'm.
3834<Luminifera> I used to be a feminist too :D
3835<Luminifera> you're crying cuki?
3836• Luminifera: pats cuki's shoulder
3837<@Mishie> [23:00]    Luminifera  I used to be a feminist too
3838<Luminifera> keep it up, eventually the problem will solve itself. always works.
3839• Mishie: thinks back to some of the dumb shit Luminifera has said in the past
3840• panth: thought Megafire was a girl
3841<+Elara> whose tactics Mega? I don't want to go all NAFALT on you, but a lot of people use nasty tactics
3842<@Glernaj> cukier, try killing the parent?
3843<Luminifera> mishie what do you mean :(
3844<Luminifera> what did I do :(
3845<@Mishie> just make sweeping generalizations
3846<Luminifera> uh?
3847<@Mishie> like how there shouldn't be male teachers
3848<Megafire> Well, yes, but it became more and more pervasive. The whole 'if you believe men and women are/should be equal, then you're a feminist' thing really bothers me.
3849<Luminifera> like?
3850<@Mishie> because you've had a few creepy ones or whatever
3851<+Elara> yeah, to be fair I've had to start pushing back on that
3852<Luminifera> mish I had no idea teachers in other countries weren't offensive
3853<Luminifera> not a few
3854<Luminifera> literally all of tem
3855<Luminifera> them*
3856<@Glernaj> mmm, depends on where you are Megafire
3857<Luminifera> it's a very very common thing
3858<Megafire> Especially because I was initially roped in by it.
3859<+Elara> because a lot of people use it, and it's misleading
3860<Luminifera> mega oh yeah
3861<Luminifera> that 'equal" thing is bull
3862<Luminifera> :/
3863<Megafire> 'Teach men not to rape' really fucking bothers me.
3864<Luminifera> oh why
3865<Luminifera> you want the right to rape? :P
3866<@Glernaj> Do you really not understand why that bothers us?
3867<Luminifera> you already have it in most countries any way *shrugs*
3868<@Mishie> wat
3869<Megafire> I live in the Netherlands.
3870<+Elara> it's a step up from teaching women to avoid rape, tbh
3871<Megafire> Where I do not have the 'right' to rape.
3872• soulpelt|fud: pays attention again
3873<Luminifera> hello spelt!
3874soulpelt|fud is now known as soulpelt|
3875<Megafire> And, as such, 'I', as an individual, do not have the 'right' to rape.
3876<cukier> I want to take a picture of a trail that tear rolled down my cheek on, but my phone camera can't capture it. :/
3877<Megafire> And no, it's not.
3878<soulpelt|> We on one of those never ending 'internet arguments'?
3879<Megafire> Rapists are going to rape.
3880<cukier> And it's dry now.
3881<@Glernaj> Lumi, the reason that statement bothers us is the assumption that men have to be, in GENERAL, taught not to rape, as opposed to be an action commited by a minority of mentally ill people.
3882<Megafire> Shouting 'rapist no raping' isn't going to change that.
3883<@Glernaj> PLUS, the assumption that all rapists are men.
3884<@Mishie> and y'know
3885<Luminifera> aw cuki :(
3886• cukier: goes to kill parents.
3887<Luminifera> mega what the fu ck
3888<Luminifera> hahahahaha
3889<@Mishie> the fact that it's basically going "yeah so all men might become rapists at a moments notice and we need to make sure it doesn't happen"
3890<Luminifera> you're not serious right
3891<Luminifera> you cannot be serious
3892<Luminifera> can't just cant
3893<Megafire> Lumi, you just called me a potential rapist.
3894<Shem_Phone> Guysssss
3895<Megafire> You do not have the right to accuse me of 'not being serious'.
3896<cukier> I'm serious Lumi.
3897<Luminifera> you think rape is something a minority of mentally I'll men do????
3898<cukier> Glernaj told me to.
3899<Luminifera> wow
3900<Megafire> Or, rather, you do.
3901<@Mishie> Luminifera: the joke is that you're kind of an example of this
3902<Luminifera> I cannot believe
3903<@Glernaj> Erm
3904<@Glernaj> Lumi.
3905<@Glernaj> Yes, yes I do.
3906<Luminifera> wow
3907<Megafire> But I realise that's the point where this conversation stops having a point.
3908<Luminifera> you're all
3909<Luminifera> terribly misinformed
3910<Luminifera> hahahahahahahaahahahahahahaha
3911<Luminifera> okay
3912<Luminifera> wow
3913<@Mishie> so uh
3914<Megafire> Then inform me.
3915<Luminifera> that
3916<@Glernaj> So, uhh
3917<Luminifera> you can't be serious oh my god
3918<@Glernaj> I think you're using the tumblr definition of rape here.
3919<Luminifera> literally every girl knows different
3920<@Glernaj> Which is "not rape"
3921<Luminifera> nope
3922<Luminifera> hahaha
3923<Luminifera> okay
3924<+Elara> Glern serial rapists are a very small portion of people, but calling them mentally ill is...not exactly helpful
3925<Megafire> Literally every girl?
3926<Luminifera> tell me what's the tumblr definition of rape glern
3927<Shem_Phone> Rape is almost always done by men, so saying "men should be taught to stop raping" kind of makes sense
3928<Megafire> Including all the anti-feminist ones?
3929<Luminifera> okay maybe there are a few very sheltered girls out there
3930<@Mishie> I think you're both wrong
3931<@Glernaj> Elara, it's true though.
3932<Luminifera> it isn't though
3933<Luminifera> it is NOT
3934<Luminifera> hahahahahaha
3935<Luminifera> Jesus christ
3936<+Elara> it's not mental illness to immorally use force or deception to get what you want regardless of the consent of others
3937<Luminifera> I'll just
3938<Megafire> 'Very sheltered'?
3939<Megafire> Wow.
3940<Luminifera> maybe when i get home and have access to decent internet access and links I'll continue this
3941<Luminifera> wow
3942<Shem_Phone> Elara is right
3943<Luminifera> I'm baffled
3944<Megafire> I'm really not.
3945<Megafire> I'm saddened.
3946<Luminifera> I almost pity you guys
3947<@Mishie> yeah uh
3948<Megafire> Because this is almost a response I hoped I wouldn't get.
3949<@Mishie> don't lump me in with this
3950<Luminifera> you haven't met the boys I have
3951<Luminifera> hahaha
3952<@Glernaj> So Lumi.
3953<@Glernaj> You think rape is a palatable action to the majority of men?
3954<Shem_Phone> Soooo Lumi!
3955<@Mishie> Luminifera: so what, you're saying that in your area that the only reason why you're not getting raped is because they don't want to get caught or something?
3956<panth> So
3957<Shem_Phone> Palatable means what?
3958<panth> I just finished Rhet's crush story
3959<Shem_Phone> In that context?
3960<@Glernaj> palatable - acceptable
3961<panth> And now the channel is discussing rape
3962<panth> Weelllllllllllp
3963<@Glernaj> a course of action that can be tolerated.
3964<Megafire> I mean, the continued laughing isn't really helping me be sympathetic to you here, Lumi.
3965<@Mishie> also that
3966<Shem_Phone> I agree with Meggie
3967<Shem_Phone> About the laughs
3968<Shem_Phone> Not about the thing
3969<+Elara> Glernaj I think most sexually active people would, in the right circumstances, if they felt they could get away with it, be tempted to push at the boundaries of consent
3970<Luminifera> yay tapeworms!!!!!
3971<+Elara> how many people cross the line, and how far they cross it, is going to be influenced by cultural factors
3972<+Elara> and how much cover the small minority who make a habit of crossing that line have...is going to depend on how many other people walk right up to the line before turning around, and how brightly the line is drawn
3973<panth> And also how many guns shoot you when you get caught crossing it
3974<+Elara> a lot of this stuff about teaching men not to rape, for example, is about trying to make the line a bit brighter and a bit wider, by trying to make more people turn back from the line a leeeettle bit sooner
3975<+Elara> it might not do that job very well, and that's a different discussion that we can have
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3977<@Mishie> and then some people get offended because apparently the line only exists in certain situations
3978<@Mishie> because dumb people say dumb offensive things
3979<Megafire> It does it terribly.
3980<@Mishie> like
3981<@Mishie> yes it needs to be made clear that it's there
3982<@Mishie> but it needs to be made clear to Everybody
3983<+Elara> Mishie sure, I think we need to teach everyone better about personal autonomy and consent
3984<Megafire> Because it paints men as, on the whole, potential rapists, paints rapists as being mostly men (or at least only cares about it when it's men) and might stop people from using otherwise functional ways of protecting themselves.
3985<@Mishie> like
3986<@Mishie> if everybody is sat down and told
3987<@Mishie> "yeah so, shits been happening and it's not kay, here's how to make sure shit is clear"
3988<Megafire> Besides, sexual violence is at an all-time low and still dropping.
3989<+Elara> Megafire I think the difficulty is that, though it might be obvious inside a particular man's head that he's not a rapist, it isn't obvious from outside
3990<@Mishie> "this is information to help stop things on both sides being given to both genders"
3991<Megafire> So, you think all men are potential rapists, then?
3992<@Mishie> realtalk
3993<+Elara> Megafire no
3994<Megafire> Because, that seems to me to be sexism.
3995<@Mishie> just change it from
3996<+Elara> that's not what I said at all
3997<@Mishie> "all men are potential rapists"
3998<@Mishie> to
3999<@Mishie> "all people can fuck up"
4000<@Mishie> "everybody can do bad things"
4001<@Glernaj> It's what was conveyed though Elara.
4002<Megafire> How is it a man's responsibility to not be seen as a rapist?
4003<@Mishie> "this is how we can do our best to stop it"
4004<+Elara> some people, based on their character, their disposition, their whatever, would never ever commit rape
4005<+Elara> there is no signal for consistently telling them from people who would
4006<Megafire> Why would every man have to signal that they are not a rapist before being treated as a human being?
4007<Megafire> And how would they go about doing so?
4008<+Elara> they shouldn't
4009<Megafire> Then what do you mean when you say 'it isn't obvious from the outside'?
4010<@Glernaj> Then why is your stance "it's not obvious that a given man is not a rapist"?
4011<+Elara> what I took from Schrodinger's Rapist was that people should be aware that someone may feel sexually threatened by them
4012<@Mishie> realtalk
4013<@Mishie> is there any reason Elara
4014<@Mishie> that if you and I were to be sat down
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4016<@Mishie> and given a lecture on how to ensure that neither of us fucked up and did anything that could be considered rape
4017<@Mishie> or involved in it
4018<@Mishie> why should either of us be given a different lecture
4019<+Elara> we shouldn't
4020<+Elara> ideally
4021<@Mishie> except lets be real
4022<@Mishie> you'll be told about how you need to always be afraid on on the alert
4023<@Mishie> and I'll be told that I need to be double, triple sure that everything is fine
4024<Megafire> Man, if someone's afraid of black guy because they feel threatened by him, solely because he's black, is that not racism?
4025<@Mishie> and that I should probably have a signed document as well
4026<@Mishie> and maybe just witnesses in case my partner changes their mind
4027<Megafire> So, if someone's afraid of a man because they feel threatened by him, solely because he is a man, is that not sexism?
4028<Megafire> A recording of consent is probably best.
4029<Megafire> You know, just in case.
4030<@Mishie> unless they change their mind after
4031<Megafire> Well, sure.
4032<Megafire> But at least you have it on record that they agreed.
4033<+Elara> Megafire sure it's racist to be afraid of a man just because he's black. we're half-evolved monkeys, that kind of feeling is very human
4034<@Glernaj> is post facto withdrawal of consent accepted by the courts?
4035<@Glernaj> It can't be.
4036<@Glernaj> Right?
4037<Megafire> It's better than a signed document.
4038<Megafire> Because it's easier to claim a document was signed under duress.
4039<+Elara> it isn't racist to be afraid of someone who's got 15 cm of height and 30 kg weight advantage of you, who's walking faster than you on a dark street at night
4040<@Mishie> Elara: tell that to panda
4041<@Mishie> please
4042<@Mishie> I want to see the reaction to that
4043<@Glernaj> oh god, I would not want to be here for that
4044<Shem_Phone> Guysssss
4045<@Glernaj> Yes Shem?
4046<Megafire> So, the other guy needs to change his behaviour just for someone else to feel more comfortable?
4047<Megafire> Most people are not going to hurt you
4048<Shem_Phone> Withdrawing consent isn't the case in most rape cases
4049<@Mishie> well yeah
4050<@Mishie> no shit
4051<@Mishie> it's just an example
4052<+Elara> maybe they do mega
4053<@Glernaj> Yes, we're aware.
4054<Megafire> You protect yourself against the ones that will, and if you feel everyone will, that is your problem and you need a therapist.
4055<@Mishie> thank you captain obvious
4056<+Elara> if you want people to be comfortable around you, acting in ways that make them uncomfortable is not going to help
4057<Megafire> It's called being paranoid.
4058<Megafire> I don't!
4059<+Elara> also WTF is this shit about recording consent?
4060<@Mishie> Elara: literally a joke
4061<@Glernaj> (Also, Elara, if they have 15 cm height on you, they're going to walk faster because they're taller)
4062<@Mishie> hyperbole
4063<Megafire> I act the way the people I give a shit about are comfortable with.
4064<@Mishie> about how shits done differently
4065<@Mishie> the tone
4066<+Elara> dunno Glern, I walk pretty fast
4067<Megafire> Everyone else? That's their problem.
4068<Megafire> If someone paranoid feels threatened by me, that's their problem to solve, not mine.
4069<Megafire> If I need something from them, sure.
4070<Megafire> But I probably don't.
4071<Vern|Pirate> So I just got back to chat after a bit
4072<Vern|Pirate> And see Lumi being a dick
4073<@Mishie> Lumi is p gud at being accidentally offensive
4074<+Elara> what you see as paranoia Mega, some people see as being justifiably wary
4075<+Elara> based on lived experience
4076<Megafire> Yeah.
4077<Megafire> And that's still paranoia.
4078<Vern|Pirate> Yeah, she is
4079<Megafire> And you can get help for that.
4080<+Elara> no, no it's not
4081<Megafire> It's still not everyone else's duty to accomodate you.
4082<+Elara> saying "9 times out of 10 this is fine, but the 10th time it goes horribly wrong", it is not paranoia to avoid that thing
4083<Megafire> Yes, it is.
4084<Megafire> Do not gave me the M&M bowl comparison.
4085<Megafire> Please.
4086<Megafire> Actually, sorry, you are right, that is not paranoia.
4087<@Clarvel> uguu
4088<Vern|Pirate> A certain amount of paranoia is necessary everywhere. Justified wariness is nothing more than paranoia with a nicer name.
4089<Vern|Pirate> Hi Clarvel
4090<Megafire> But, blaming the thing and demanding it to change is still nonsense.
4091<Megafire> You avoid it, if you want to, and if you can't, you learn to deal with it.
4092<@Glernaj> Morning Clarvel
4093<Luminifera> HEY MEGA SO YOU HAVE TONS OF M&MS AND SOME OF THEM ARE POISONED
4094<@Clarvel> ugh
4095<Luminifera> xD
4096<Vern|Pirate> Did you know that women can't be arrested for flashing people on the street?
4097<@Clarvel> hi Vern|Pirate Glernaj
4098<Vern|Pirate> I Germany
4099<Vern|Pirate> In*
4100<Megafire> And, anyway, that's pretty much the argument MGTOW use, too.
4101<@Glernaj> MGTOW?
4102<Megafire> Men Going Their Own Way.
4103<Vern|Pirate> Clarvel:I read your ugh as uguuu
4104<Megafire> Pretty much men who have sworn off women as being 'too much of a risk'.
4105<+Elara> like, say you stop to chat with tramps, because you don't always have money to give them, but they're human too. most of the time they appreciate the conversation, but one day this tramp shouts at you for not giving him money and chases you until you run away
4106<Luminifera> lol
4107<Luminifera> how ironic!!!!
4108<+Elara> you are going to be less likely to talk to tramps from now on
4109<@Glernaj> I'd actually say I was less likely to talk to that specific tramp.
4110<Luminifera> I know girls who have given up boys as 'too much of a risk'
4111<Megafire> Yeah, and that's still my problem, and not the problem of all tramps I come across.
4112<Luminifera> except you know, they just don't wanna be raped and killed
4113<Luminifera> no biggie
4114<Luminifera> :P
4115<+Elara> ok Glernaj that makes sense. now what if it keeps happening?
4116<Luminifera> boys are scary.
4117<Megafire> Tramps do not have a duty to behave differently.
4118<Vern|Pirate> I think I give up on Lumi as too much of a headache :v
4119<Megafire> Yeah, and boys only have to be afraid of being raped in jail for being accused of rapists and having their lives ruined.
4120<Megafire> No biggie.
4121<Megafire> Girls are fucking terrifying.
4122<Luminifera> mega lol
4123<Luminifera> 2% of rapists get incarcerated
4124<Luminifera> two
4125<Luminifera> percent
4126<Megafire> That's bullshit.
4127<+Elara> Lumi that statistic is...dubious
4128<Luminifera> oh really
4129<@Glernaj> Depends on if I have specific motivation for talking to said tramps, but if it's just a casual interest, I'd probably stop, yes.
4130<Megafire> Seriously.
4131<Luminifera> fine prove it
4132<Megafire> That statistic relies on presumed guilt.
4133<soulpelt|> I think that varies per country, Lumi
4134<Vern|Pirate> That statistic sound ridiculously retarded
4135<Luminifera> I've heard of quite a few rapes with girls i know and trust
4136<@Glernaj> Luminifera, statistics on rape are suuuuuuper unreliable
4137<Luminifera> none of the boys went to prison
4138<@Glernaj> largely because a ton don't get reported
4139<@Mishie> [23:31]    Luminifera  fine prove it
4140<@Mishie> yeah uh
4141<Vern|Pirate> Brazil seems to be a shitty country to be a woman in
4142<@Mishie> that's uh
4143<Megafire> Personal experience, Lumi
4144<Luminifera> I think I'll trust the victims more than the attackers
4145<@Mishie> not how it works
4146<Luminifera> yeah vern
4147<Luminifera> you got it rigt
4148<@Mishie> you kinda can't just go
4149<Luminifera> unfortunately
4150<Shem_Phone> Prison rape =/= what people get when they are being called rapists
4151<@Mishie> "here's a statistic, now disprove it"
4152<Vern|Pirate> See, that's the problem, you can't blame the guys here
4153<Megafire> I am sorry that happened to those girls, and I hope their lives are better now.
4154<@Glernaj> And Lumi, the burden of proof is on you to prove the statistic, not for us to disprove it.
4155<Vern|Pirate> Blame the shit stain you call home
4156<@Mishie> realtalk lumi
4157<Luminifera> I hope too. I haven't talked to them in a while
4158<Megafire> But that's still not anything I can do anything with in this discussion.
4159<+Elara> false accusations of rape are pretty fucking rare though. they're not even that heavy in social contexts that don't lead to criminal charges
4160<@Mishie> have you considered that the place you live is just flat out worse than pretty much everywhere that isn't india or africa
4161<Luminifera> vern tbh you seem to hate girls so much, I'd be hella scared of going out with you
4162<@Mishie> hahahahahaha
4163<Shem_Phone> Elara is correct
4164<@Mishie> goddam
4165<Luminifera> not that I would anyway, esp. with your eye thing lmao
4166<Luminifera> it's just that. eh.
4167<@Mishie> ohmygod
4168<Luminifera> I wouldnt rec you to any friends too
4169<@Glernaj> hoooooly crap Lumi
4170<@Mishie> Lumi is just on a roll
4171<Luminifera> you seem risky
4172<Megafire> Well, I don't know, being kicked out of every college for a false rape accusation in campus kangaroo courts isn't something I'd be very happy with, either.
4173<Luminifera> sorry
4174<@Glernaj> where the fuck did this come from?
4175<Luminifera> *shrugs*
4176<@Mishie> Luminifera: is it because he's brown?
4177<Luminifera> my interactions with vern
4178<Luminifera> yeah mishie totally. not like >60% of Brazilians are brown too
4179<Luminifera> :|
4180<Shem_Phone> Kangaroo?
4181<Vern|Pirate> False accusations that lead to incarceration should be punished with an equal sentence. Doesn't happen when the lie is discovered.
4182<@Mishie> Luminifera: literally a joke
4183<Luminifera> and Vern is blond.
4184<Luminifera> he has blue eyes and is german
4185<Luminifera>  if anything he's whiter than me
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4187<Vern|Pirate> Luminifera: you're being an incredible bitch about anything considering my comments about relationships.
4188<Vern|Pirate> No way to mince words here
4189<soulpelt|> guys
4190<soulpelt|> how about we take a break hm?
4191<Vern|Pirate> If you feel uncomfortable with the topic, leave.
4192<Shem_Phone> ^
4193<Shem_Phone> @ both
4194<@Mishie> soulpelt|: no
4195<Megafire> Yeah, I'm good.
4196<@Mishie> this is hilarious
4197<Luminifera> and by calling me a bitch you're not exactly making me feel better about you. sigh
4198<Luminifera> I swear I dont have anything against you as a person
4199<@Mishie> hahahahha
4200<Megafire> Lumi, don't DARVO Vern here.
4201<@Glernaj> er, what?
4202<@Mishie> Luminifera: you literally just said shit way worse
4203<Luminifera> what's darvo
4204<Luminifera> hmm
4205<Luminifera> no I didnt
4206<@Glernaj> Lumi, you JUST SAID you have things against him as a person.
4207<Luminifera> I said I wouldnt feel safe around him
4208<Luminifera> that's all
4209<@Glernaj> And.. you think that isn't saying something about him as a person?
4210<@Mishie> uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
4211<+Elara> Mega wtf is DARVO?
4212<Luminifera> have you ever just felt an instinct about not feeling safe around someone?
4213<Shem_Phone> Guys
4214<@Mishie> that's a pretty personal attack lumi
4215<@Glernaj> I have no idea what darvo is
4216<Megafire> “Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender
4217<+Elara> are you delving into NRx weirdness now
4218<Luminifera> oh
4219<Shem_Phone> Can we address the elephant in the room?
4220<Megafire> It's pretending to be the victim while you're the initial attacker.
4221<Luminifera> I'm not intending to attack anyone.
4222<@Glernaj> what elephant is that Shem?
4223<Luminifera> I'm not a victim? no one here has attacked me
4224<Shem_Phone> Mega's moustache
4225<@Mishie> what
4226<@Mishie> [23:36]    Luminifera  and by calling me a bitch you're not exactly making me feel better about you. sigh
4227<Luminifera> I suddenly don't understand what you're talking about
4228<soulpelt|> xD
4229<+Elara> nobody has to pretend to feel safe if they don't. As long as you don't treat "I don't feel safe around you" as equalling "you are evil", that's fine
4230<Luminifera> calling someone names over the internet isn't attacking, it's just annoying
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4232<+Elara> like, some people just vibe you wrong. that's ok
4233<Shem_Phone> (their moustache vibes you wrong)
4234<Luminifera> tbh I wouldn't feel safe with most of you.
4235<Shem_Phone> Not even Antioch?
4236<Vern|Pirate> That's a problem, Elara. Most people are increasingly hostile to people they are uncomfortable with. Instead of avoiding them, they seek the confrontation, especially on the Internet.
4237<Luminifera> it's the rare boy that I feel okay enough around
4238<Luminifera> I've barely ever talked to anti xD
4239<+Elara> Vern I don't think that's changed, it's just moved venues
4240<Luminifera> I just used vern as an example.
4241<Luminifera> most of you guys would qualify as well.
4242<+Elara> and to a certain extent people who have never felt safe to seek the confrontation do when they find a space where they can finally do it
4243<Shem_Phone> Jen qualifies
4244<Luminifera> I have been friends with people I feel kinda uncomfortable around
4245• Luminifera: shrugs
4246<Luminifera> i don't understand what the big deal is.
4247<Vern|Pirate> Well congratulations, you don't need to be scared of me anymore
4248<Luminifera> because you're never gonna talk to me again?
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4250<Luminifera> I'm not scared of you
4251<Luminifera> I've never even met you
4252<Vern|Pirate> Indeed. So you can feel more comfortable.
4253<Luminifera> and probably never will
4254<Vern|Pirate> It's obviously me how has to accommodate you.
4255<Shem_Phone> Guys :(
4256<Luminifera> I don't feel uncomfortable talking with you on chat
4257<+Elara> like...I wouldn't feel safe pushing back against anti-kink/BDSM stuff offline, because speaking out is basically outing yourself
4258<+Elara> whereas online I'm happy to tear someone a new one
4259<Shem_Phone> Can't we all be friendly friends?
4260<Luminifera> ^
4261<@Clarvel> no
4262<@Glernaj> Christ this conversation has turned into a clusterfuck
4263<@Clarvel> maybe
4264<Luminifera> eh
4265<Luminifera> everyone hates me now probably
4266<+Elara> yes Glern, because too many people are talking at crosspurposes
4267<Shem_Phone> Yup
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4269<+Elara> like, Mega is arguing with his theoretical internet feminist, and at best I've managed to make the point that I am not TIF
4270<@Glernaj> I wouldn't say hate Lumi, more of "rather offended by"
4271<soulpelt|> Hence why I wanted people to take a goddam break, Glernaj.
4272• panth: is just reading Sayaka Quest and ctrl-tabbing back here every few pages
4273<soulpelt|> but noooooo
4274<Vern|Pirate> There's no such things as breaks, spelt
4275<Luminifera> apparently having had tons of bad experiences with boys and not feeling safe around most of them is a very grave offense
4276<Luminifera> :/
4277<@Glernaj> Yeah, honestly contemplating locking the channel.
4278<Vern|Pirate> The moment you call for a break, the conversation doesn't leave.
4279<@Clarvel> sayaka quest?
4280<Vern|Pirate> The hostility doesn't leave
4281<Luminifera> or maybe it's just the fact that I said it
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4283<soulpelt|> but it allows tempers to cool, Vern.
4284<Luminifera> am I supposed to be quietly uncomfortable?
4285<Olivebirdy> I vote against break as well.
4286<Luminifera> I'm just honest. I dont want to offend anyone
4287<Shem_Phone> Hey olive
4288<Vern|Pirate> No, you're supposed to avoid places you feel are toxic to you.
4289<Olivebirdy> Give me a sec to get my laptop.
4290<Shem_Phone> I vote in favor of adding a dumb rule that makes the conversation go away
4291<+Elara> what if that included your school, your high street and the buses Vern?
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4293<Luminifera> vern
4294<OliveB> Whooo
4295<@Glernaj> Christ
4296Glernaj sets mode +m
4297<@Glernaj> Clarvel, how long are you going to be around?
4298<@Clarvel> uh, by 'around' what do you mean
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4300<@Glernaj> Present at your computer and able to lift that +m I just set.
4301<@Clarvel> class in 45min, but I'll have wifi
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4303<@Clarvel> you got a time you want it lifted?
4304<@Glernaj> I'd say give it 15 minutes or so
4305<@Clarvel> kk
4306<@Glernaj> I have to leave for work like nowish though
4307<@Glernaj> So thanks.
4308<@Clarvel> have fun m8
4309<+Elara> later Glern o/
4310<@Glernaj> cheers.
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4312<+Elara> (when did I get voiced? I'm not complaining, but I don't remember it happening)
4313Clarvel sets mode -m
4314<@Clarvel> Elara: I voice ppl who make me laugh
4315<@Clarvel> gj
4316<@Clarvel> was yesterday tho
4317<@Clarvel> I think
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4319<Megafire> I would like to apologise for whatever part I played in the previous conversation.
4320<+Elara> fair enough
4321<Benguin> wee
4322<Benguin> I met a gaggle of gay guys today
4323<+Elara> Ben yay
4324<Benguin> Well it's more like I discovered that I met a gaggle of gay guys the day previous
4325<Olivebirdy> Oh, we're good?
4326<Olivebirdy> Greaaaat
4327<+Elara> Mega I'll PM you, one tick
4328<Megafire> Don't have a lot of time, mind.
4329<Megafire> About to go out for an early dinner.
4330• Vern|Pirate: drinks his hazelnut cappuccino
4331<soulpelt|> \o/
4332<Olivebirdy> So, Luminifera, you have to be willing to change your mind if someone has facts that don't align with your current opinion.
4333<Olivebirdy> Nobody is always right.
4334<Vern|Pirate> Lumi would fit in sv debate threads.
4335<Luminifera> olive please don't make me do this. everyone already hates me. :(
4336<Olivebirdy> Mildly offended.
4337<Olivebirdy> That's not the same as deciding you are an awful person.
4338<Luminifera> no. why are you doing this. I'm anxious.
4339<Luminifera> this is making me very nervous.
4340<Olivebirdy> Because being anxious is okay.
4341<Luminifera> you're being mean Olive
4342<Olivebirdy> Yes, I am.
4343<Olivebirdy> I don't care that you anxious,
4344<soulpelt|> We don't think you're awful Lumi.
4345<Olivebirdy> It's just not a problem.
4346<Vern|Pirate> Playing the victim isn't going to help you now. I'm offended at hypocrisy. If you have an opinion, stand by it. Argue in facts, not in laughter that is dismissive and condescending.
4347<Luminifera> bluh
4348<Olivebirdy> I don't think you are awful.
4349<+Elara> Lumi, the manic laughter was rude
4350<Olivebirdy> I do think that lau^
4351<Luminifera> olive says you think I meant that I think you'd rape me if you could
4352<+Elara> Olive, you are now being a dick
4353<Luminifera> I did not mean that
4354<panth> Clarvel: D:
4355<Olivebirdy> I am bbeing a dick
4356<Luminifera> I thought it was obvious that I didn't
4357<+Elara> and we are not going back there
4358<panth> Everything I've done for you
4359<Luminifera> therefore I didn't elaborate
4360<panth> And I still have no voice
4361<Luminifera> but now I will
4362<panth> But Elara just makes you chuckle a little
4363<Luminifera> you do have a voice panth
4364<panth> Well I see which side the butter's on now D:
4365<soulpelt|> heh
4366• panth: harrumphs
4367<@Clarvel> ...butter?
4368<Megafire> Anyway, I am off to dinner.
4369<Megafire> Later folks.
4370<panth> Elara: but srsly though snippets on how the UK Parahuman categories got named and stuff
4371<Vern|Pirate> See you
4372<@Clarvel> panth: cler tries to not show favoritism
4373<panth> It would be nice
4374<Luminifera> vern, you and a lot of boys, most boys i know, I'd dare say, I don't know why, but seem to think violence is super cool
4375<panth> > not show favouritism
4376<panth> > voices Elara
4377<@Clarvel> and this thing with voice is an established thing I do
4378<panth> ;-;
4379<panth> Yeah I guess xD
4380<Olivebirdy> Instinct is hard to push down
4381<panth> Not like it comes into play a lot anyways
4382<Luminifera> I don't think it's cool, and it makes me feel like if I pissed them off, even unwillingly, they'd get angry at me
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4384<Olivebirdy> I tend to feel worried if someone is bigger than me.
4385<Luminifera> and could hurt me, and I don't want to bw hurt, because I don't like that
4386<soulpelt|class> not thinking violence is cool is fine. *says as he plunders europe and slaughters tens of thousands of French*
4387<panth> I think that happens a lot. I myself get stressed when in loud environments, even if that's just one person talking loudly
4388<Olivebirdy> ^
4389<+Elara> panth yes, as I have time and inspiration, snippets might happen
4390<Olivebirdy> It's legit scary
4391<Luminifera> that's what I meant when I said I wouldn't feel comfortable or safe if I were to interact with you or most boys really irl
4392<+Elara> if you have any ideas lemme know
4393<panth> Just want to know about the capes who inspired the different classes
4394<Luminifera> I don't think boys just randomly get rapey and murderous
4395<panth> Like who was Troll
4396<panth> And what did Varlet do
4397<panth> And how, for example, the K-Types got recognised
4398<Luminifera> it's just that... boys, in my experience, get angry easily
4399<+Elara> those are just questions panthy bae
4400<+Elara> not ideas :P
4401<panth> Those are questions that lead to ideas though
4402<Luminifera> and people can get violent when they're angry
4403<panth> Like you can write, documentary-style
4404<panth> "Today the Suits announced the capture of Varlet, a cape who had been terrorising all of Ireland..."
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4406<Vern|Pirate> I repeat. You must live in a shit environment, in a shit country, Lumi.
4407<Luminifera> people who don't show a lot of self control or that seem not to care too much about expressing their anger (mostly physically) make me wary
4408<Luminifera> and kind of scared
4409<Luminifera> I'm sorry
4410<Vern|Pirate> Being a boy doesn't make you more aggressive
4411<Luminifera> I really didn't mean to offend you, not gravely at least
4412<panth> Being bearded on the other hand
4413<Luminifera> it does, it's testosterone. it's not excuse of course but it does make you more aggressive biologically speaking
4414<panth> (jk jk love the beard Vern)
4415<Luminifera> no excuse*
4416<Chime> we offload our emotional reactions into our beards in order to fool alexandria
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4418<+Elara> XD
4419<+Elara> nice Chime
4420<Luminifera> I don't know. you just say some really violence-advocating stuff on chat sometimes. and that scares me a bit. that's all
4421<+Elara> how often does that come in handy?
4422<Bruticus> Elara, what's with the plus?
4423<Luminifera> I'd be afraid of making you angry
4424<Bruticus> Are you positive today?
4425<+Elara> Clarvel voiced me because he found me funny
4426<Luminifera> elara is voiced
4427<Vern|Pirate> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DTzFo0IH/beard.jpg
4428<+Elara> so far it has let me type two lines after Glern muted the chan to break up the rape chat
4429<@Clarvel> tbf, I thought you'd log off a while ago or somethin
4430<Bruticus> I don't know what that means in this context
4431<Olivebirdy> So, should I go to anger therapy since I have a beard?
4432Clarvel sets mode -v Elara
4433<Chime> hehe, i haven't met alexandria IRL, so I donno
4434<Chime> ... yet
4435• Olivebirdy: is amused at the idea
4436• Chime: shifty eyes
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4438<Elara> eh, new on IRCcloud Clar, I've not logged off all week
4439<Elara> when they kick me off the free trial I'll start logging off again
4440<Olivebirdy> I've actually had the experience that people with beards are nicer, except for Nasrallah.
4441<Luminifera> there, I did the thing olive, can I please retreat into a hole and hide forever before i start crying in the middle of class
4442<Olivebirdy> Yep.
4443• Elara: hugs Luminifera
4444<Olivebirdy> Good job, Lumi!
4445<Elara> people with beards are damnably inconsistent Olive
4446<Elara> the nastiest shoutiest street preachers I see always have massive beards
4447<Elara> and so do some of the biggest harmless goofs
4448<Olivebirdy> Hmm
4449<Benguin> Hmmm
4450<Benguin> I may have a potential date lined up
4451<panth> ...!
4452<panth> Niiiiice
4453<Chime> i am definitely a harmless goof
4454<Olivebirdy> Bearded?
4455<panth> Remember to douche ;D
4456<panth> ...Chime is bearded?
4457<Chime> i mean if mannequin attacked i might try to put a cinderblock on him, but that's about as far as it goes
4458<Benguin> Panth you're incorrigible
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4460<panth> It's probably why I have no dates :<
4461<Chime> yeah
4462<Benguin> It's not a sure thing at all
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4464<Benguin> It's just that, all of those gays I met are single
4465<Benguin> and one of them is cute
4466<Elara> yuss Ben <3
4467<Elara> good luck
4468<Benguin> and I'm going to tutor him in Propositions
4469<Jemnyte> You could probably be more attractive if you tried
4470<Benguin> Oh that's a thing
4471<Benguin> we started doing propositionals today
4472<Benguin> I don't understand the um..
4473<Benguin> <= logic
4474<Elara> logic so fun :D
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4476<Benguin> ≤ is.. if P then Q
4477<Benguin> so the lecturer said
4478<Benguin> but.. if P is false and Q is false, p <= Q is true?
4479<Benguin> why?
4480<Benguin> wait
4481<Benguin> why did it make a symbol
4482<Elara> hmm. run me through your notation here Ben?
4483<Benguin> <= is implication
4484<Chime> it looks like backwards implication?
4485<Benguin> and we demonstrate using p and q
4486<Benguin> err
4487<Benguin> you're right. =>
4488<Chime> i guess the situation is symmetrical so it works either way
4489<Benguin> it's => I don't understand
4490<Jemnyte> Is this math?
4491<Benguin> it's propositional logic
4492<Benguin> so yes
4493<Chime> "p -> q" aka "p leads to q" aka "in any world where p is true, q must also be true" aka "every time p is true, q will be true"
4494<Jemnyte> I think I covered this in middle school, lemme see if I can remember it
4495<Chime> so
4496<Benguin> But..
4497<Chime> if you have "every time p is true BLABLABLA"
4498<Chime> and p is never true
4499<Benguin> Oh
4500<Chime> then that "every time" is automatically satisfied
4501<Benguin> I see, so
4502<Luminifera> haha
4503<Luminifera> ben
4504<Luminifera> show us a pic of your date!!!
4505<Benguin> wait
4506<Benguin> hm
4507<Jemnyte> I think the statement is something like
4508<Jemnyte> if P is true then Q is true
4509<Jemnyte> If P is false, then Q is false
4510<Benguin> Chime: so why if both are false, is p => q true?
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4512<Benguin> oh
4513<Benguin> Well fuckin'
4514<Benguin> Wait
4515<Benguin> no that's equivolence, Jemnyte
4516<Jemnyte> Or something so the statement is true?
4517<Benguin> <=>
4518<Chime> because if you only have half of that entire construction, the rest doesn't matter
4519<Chime> like let's say you have these 2 things
4520<Chime> p is false
4521<Jemnyte> Like I said, I covered this in eighth grade
4522<Chime> "p -> ANYTHING"
4523<Jemnyte> I don't remember it very well
4524<Chime> p -> anything is true
4525<Chime> the fact that q is false doesn't matter
4526<Chime> "{false} -> any conclusion" is true
4527<Benguin> All we were told was
4528<Benguin> if P then Q
4529<Benguin> and "p implies Q"
4530<Benguin> no further explanation other than a truth table
4531<JENTASTIC> bla
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4536<Benguin> why chime
4537<Luminifera> hello Jen!
4538<Jemnyte> Logics are boring, let's talk about geometrical proofs
4539<Chime> the other, more doylist explanation, is that "'false implies anything' is true" has been arbitrarily decided to be how logic equations work by logicians because if it doesn't work that way, a lot of the other logic formulas don't work correctly
4540<Bruticus> Jen, save me
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4542<%JENTHULHU> from?
4543<Bruticus> Save me from this talk of numbers
4544<Benguin> Are you saying it's arbitrary
4545<Luminifera> same
4546<Benguin> ?
4547<Luminifera> please
4548• Luminifera: makes grabby hands at Jen
4549<Luminifera> bruti what's your major?
4550<Bruticus> English
4551<Chime> i only took like one college class in this, and it was quite a while ago, so i donno if "it's arbitrary" is the best answer in the long run
4552<Bruticus> Big surprise
4553<Chime> but if it helps in the short run, then you can think of it that way i guess
4554<Chime> basically "false implies anything" is sort of defined as true
4555<Jemnyte> I don't like how sophists think
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4557<Chime> really it can't be true or not true, false is always false, so it can never be resolved how it affects other things
4558<Benguin> wait I get it
4559<Chime> but defining it as true makes the rest of logic work
4560<Benguin> I was looking at something else
4561<%JENTHULHU> VereorPain: piracy is a dangerous career
4562<Benguin> wait
4563<Benguin> no I don't
4564<Bruticus> Yeah, that one guy just got out of prison
4565<Benguin> well I get false & false  being true
4566<Benguin> but,
4567<Benguin> why then does P being false and Q being true equal true?
4568<Jemnyte> Are you defining it as true, or is it actually true
4569<Benguin> truth tables
4570<Benguin> F => T
4571<Chime> "false implies anything" is true
4572<Chime> fill in the blank for anything
4573<Chime> "false implies false" is true
4574<VereorPain> JENTHULHU: indeed
4575<Chime> "false implies true" is true
4576<Jemnyte> Because your end result is true
4577<Chime> if the moon is the sun, i am a dog
4578<Chime> if the moon is the sun, i am not a dog
4579<Chime> both of those are "true" in logic, because the moon isn't the sun
4580<Chime> (logic is kinda weird)
4581<Jemnyte> if P is true, and Q is false shouldn't the statement be true?
4582<Jemnyte> or false rather
4583<VereorPain> Wow
4584<Chime> "true implies false" is false
4585<Benguin> yes
4586<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: could I interest you in a magic potion with no unwanted side effects whatsoever?
4587<VereorPain> You Transsunphobe, chime
4588<Bruticus> Will it get me drunk?
4589<Jemnyte> If P is true, Q is true
4590<Jemnyte> If Q is true, R is true
4591<Chime> i remember having this exact difficulty when dealing with the concept of "f->t"=t, hehe, and i also remember it made a lot more sense about a month or so later
4592<Jemnyte> thus if P is true, R is true
4593<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus: possibly
4594<Chime> but i couldn't tell you the exact steps that helped it make more sense
4595<Bruticus> Sold
4596<Jemnyte> so that's a true statement?
4597<Chime> yeah jem
4598<Jemnyte> but if R is true when P is true
4599<Benguin> I'm going to think of it as
4600<Jemnyte> and R is true when Q is true
4601<Benguin> I eman
4602<Benguin> I mean*
4603<Chime> there's an axiom for that i think
4604<Jemnyte> Q isn't always true when P is true
4605<Jemnyte> and vise versa
4606<Chime> yeah that's correct
4607<Benguin> when using the "if it is raining, then I have my umbrella" example,
4608<Benguin> if it's not raining, and you  have yoru umb
4609<Benguin> your umbrella
4610<Benguin> F => T
4611<Benguin> then it's T but only because P could have been something else?
4612<Chime> hmmm
4613<Benguin> is.. that right?
4614<Benguin> that's what this video is sort of saying.
4615<Benguin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5vRAnntKI
4616<Jemnyte> but then isn't the statement isn't true?
4617<Jemnyte> it's not true unless both Q and P are true right?
4618<Chime> if you're saying "if it's raining, then i have my umbrella" is P -> Q
4619<Chime> then "it's not raining" is ... !P
4620<%JENTHULHU> ...
4621<%JENTHULHU> are we debating the nature of logic here?
4622<%JENTHULHU> how long have you been at this?
4623<Benguin> but !P isn't in the equation >:C
4624<Chime> i don't think it's so much debating
4625<Benguin> it's P => Q
4626<Benguin> it's not !p, it's just that P is false
4627<Chime> just trying to explain why "F -> T" or, for that matter, "F -> F" is defined as true
4628<@Nae> I can solve this debate
4629<Benguin> I get F=F
4630<@Nae> guise
4631<@Nae> P
4632<@Nae> is equal to
4633<@Nae> NP
4634<@Nae> hurrrrrrr
4635• Nae: flees
4636<Benguin> it's not raining, so of course I don't have my umbrella
4637<Chime> different P :P
4638• VereorPain: pokes holes into nae's logic
4639<Chime> oh i see what you're saying
4640<Chime> so the situation of the world is that it's not raining
4641<Chime> and someone saunters up and says "if it's raining, then you have your umbrella!"
4642<Chime> meanwhile obviously not raining
4643<Chime> that person's statement was technically true, if a bit vacuous
4644<Chime> doesn't mean you have your umbrella, just that "if it's raining" you would
4645<Chime> could also say "if it's raining, then the moon is the sun!"
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4647<Chime> have you gotten to converse/inverse/contrapositive yet?
4648<Chime> i think one or more of those concepts help explain why this is the way it is, but i don't remember exactly how
4649<Jemnyte> if P is false when Q is true
4650<Jemnyte> the end statement is still true because you have your umbrella
4651<Jemnyte> it's just that you reasoning is wrong
4652<Chime> it actually doesn't matter whether you have your umbrella or not
4653<Olivebirdy> So, can we try the rape talk again?
4654<Chime> ha
4655<Olivebirdy> SO much better than logic.
4656<Chime> if someone says "if {{{definitely false thing}}} then you have your umbrella" <-- that if/then statement is a true statement no matter whether you have your umbrella
4657<VereorPain> Olivebirdy confirms: Rape > Umbrellas
4658<VereorPain> In this logic, there's not fault. /s
4659<VereorPain> ;p
4660<Jemnyte> yeah i think that's it
4661<Jemnyte> so like if you say
4662<Jemnyte> I'm 12 so I wear shorts
4663<Jemnyte> but you're not ewelve, you're actually like 8 or something
4664<Jemnyte> it doesn't matter because you're wearing shorts
4665<Olivebirdy> More men than women are rapists, I believe,
4666<Jemnyte> so the statement is true from an conclusional standpoint even if it's based on a wrong starting
4667<Olivebirdy> More men tan women have Asperger's, as well.
4668<Chime> well
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4670<VereorPain> Olivebirdy: I repeat my earlier statement
4671<VereorPain> In discussions like this
4672<Chime> evaluating the truth-value of an if/then statement isn't necessarily the same thing as evaluating the truth-value of the conclusion
4673<VereorPain> There are no breaks
4674<Chime> i'm trying to think of an example like
4675<Olivebirdy> I know.
4676<Olivebirdy> It makes no sense to have  a break.
4677<VereorPain> If you enforce a break, the hostility doesn't leave, but the conversation died out
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4679<VereorPain> And that's what glernaj did
4680<Olivebirdy> People don't have a--- Yes.
4681<Olivebirdy> Exactly.
4682<Chime> let's say "if thor from norse mythology is real, then odin from norse mythology is real"
4683<VereorPain> Hello Teruzi
4684<Chime> because odin was thor's dad
4685<Teruzi> sup
4686<Bruticus> Godin
4687<Benguin> not yet chime
4688<Chime> now, you don't have to believe in norse mythology, you don't have to believe odin is real
4689<Benguin> (late response)
4690<Olivebirdy> Hm..
4691<Chime> but that statement is still true
4692<%JENTHULHU> how long has chime been at this, seriously
4693<Teruzi> what's the discussion?
4694<Bruticus> Jen, you owe me some magic juice
4695<Teruzi> I'm allll about pointlessly talking
4696<Chime> originally: why are "f -> f" and "f -> t" considered to be true in logic
4697<Olivebirdy> If it were true that more Rappelians from Rapeland, were rapists than the norm, should we treat Rappelians differently?
4698<Elara> ayy Tuzi
4699<Elara> did you want the logs of Rhet's story?
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4701<OliveB> Would it be considered racism to force all Rappelians into Sex Consent 101?
4702<VereorPain> Don't try that route, Oliveb
4703<VereorPain> That's just painful.
4704<OliveB> :D
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4707<Luminifera> it
4708<OliveB> Vern, are you racist against Rappelians?
4709<Luminifera> wouldn't work
4710<Luminifera> you need to go to the roots
4711<Bruticus> Rappelians sound like people who love mountain climbing
4712<Chime> ^
4713<Luminifera> ^
4714<Luminifera> hahaha
4715<Luminifera> elara is a rappelian
4716<Elara> rappelling is just getting down
4717<OliveB> Don't oppress their culture, assholes.
4718<Elara> getting up is the fun bit
4719<OliveB> :<
4720<VereorPain> Teruzi: the gist of it is
4721<Bruticus> "Getting up is the fun part"
4722<Bruticus> You said it
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4724<VereorPain> We had a debate that would have made Tumblr proud
4725<Luminifera> I'm not rapist against people who like climbing
4726<OliveB> snerk
4727<Luminifera> I largely ignore tumblr arguments xD
4728<VereorPain> Long story short, situation is tense.
4729<Luminifera> I don't know how some of the girls can manage t.
4730OliveB is now known as Olivebirdy
4731<Luminifera> they get legit threats. if I ever got a threat I'd be so scared I'd delete like all my social media accounts ever
4732<Chime> thus far i have managed to avoid just about all the apps that omit a vowel before the final 'r'
4733<Olivebirdy> Okay, so some people believe that men should be taught not to rape.
4734<Olivebirdy> Which is um, misguided?
4735<Chime> why are you necroing this
4736<Elara> even Grindr Chime?
4737<Elara> ;)
4738<Olivebirdy> Because I think it should be necroed.
4739<Chime> hehe, even grindr
4740<Teruzi> oh man grindr
4741<Teruzi> what a weird experience that grindr is
4742<Elara> I am not touching this rape discussion again in chan. if anybody wants to PM me about it, I think it can be productively discussed one to one, but furballs like the one we had earlier go exactly nowhere
4743<Chime> ^
4744<Olivebirdy> #NoHoldsBarred
4745<Chime> that said, whao it's 10:00, i need to take a shower and go to work
4746<Chime> see you!
4747<Bruticus> What went down earlier?
4748<%JENTHULHU> alright people
4749<%JENTHULHU> time to bake a cake
4750<Elara> basically because between Mishie, Olive, Vern, Mega and Glern, there was far too much stuff to respond to at once, so stuff was just getting missed
4751<%JENTHULHU> Bruticus, go get the eggs
4752<%JENTHULHU> Elara get the milk
4753<%JENTHULHU> Teruzi get the sugar
4754<Teruzi> wait what
4755<Bruticus> Cake time
4756<Olivebirdy> Olive?
4757• Elara: collects ten cows and sets up the milking machine. "We wanted a big cake, right?"
4758<Olivebirdy> I was barely involved.
4759• Bruticus: wants to make strata...
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4761<Luminifera> I think the thing starts much earlier and deeper
4762<Luminifera> "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
4763<Luminifera> it just wouldn't work
4764<Olivebirdy> No kidding
4765<Bruticus> "teaching boys not to rape" is a suggestion that would absolutely piss off a lot of people
4766<Bruticus> Myself included
4767<Olivebirdy> Because it implies that men do all the raping, which people confuse with 'all men are rapists'.
4768• Teruzi: reads the Rhet logs
4769• Teruzi: makes a pained expression
4770<Luminifera> hahaha
4771<Teruzi> Vern
4772<Teruzi> you shitter
4773<Luminifera> xD
4774• VereorPain: hugs Teruzi
4775<VereorPain> I was dying man
4776<Teruzi> you shitterrrrrrrrr
4777<VereorPain> He Tore me apart
4778<Teruzi> man, way to make him feel even worse
4779<Luminifera> ugh olive don't start with the girls rape too thing
4780<Luminifera> please dont
4781<%JENTHULHU> alright
4782<%JENTHULHU> people
4783<%JENTHULHU> as half-op
4784<%JENTHULHU> it is my official suggestion
4785<Luminifera> are you afraid of walking alone at night because a woman might rape you? :(
4786<Luminifera> okay
4787<Olivebirdy> Facts are facts, Lumi, even if they don't conform to your opinion.
4788<%JENTHULHU> that we drop the rape discussion
4789• Teruzi: shoos Olive and Lumi
4790<Olivebirdy> #NoHoldsBarred
4791<%JENTHULHU> people are just going to get pissed off and angry and it won't go well
4792<Luminifera> facts are: boys just don't feel afraid of that
4793<Olivebirdy> ;)
4794<Luminifera> :P
4795<Teruzi> says you Lumi
4796<Luminifera> you hypochrite
4797<Teruzi> you've never walked the alleys -I- walk
4798<soulpelt|class> please for the love of god drop it.
4799<Teruzi> anyways what I was saying
4800<Teruzi> VERN
4801<Teruzi> HE WAS HOMESCHOOLED
4802<Teruzi> AND YOU MADE HIM FEEL WORSE
4803<Bruticus> That's because of physical differences, Lumi
4804<Teruzi> that was unnecessary
4805<Luminifera> no he didnt
4806<Luminifera> rhet got out of that conversation completely unscathed
4807<Bruticus> Women are more likely to rape via using alcohol
4808<%JENTHULHU> AHEM
4809<Luminifera> and now he's sleeping peacefully
4810<%JENTHULHU> I
4811<%JENTHULHU> SUGGEST
4812<Luminifera> like a baby
4813<Luminifera> tiny baby
4814<%JENTHULHU> that everyone either drops the rape discussion
4815<%JENTHULHU> or takes it elsewhere
4816<Luminifera> smol, sheltered home schooled baby
4817<soulpelt|class> Lumi is a smol summer child. :p
4818<panth> All of you are smol
4819<panth> Even Chime.
4820<Teruzi> that word pains me
4821<panth> Especially Tuzi.
4822<panth> ;D
4823• panth: picks up Tuzi and waves him about
4824• Teruzi: sighs
4825• Mishie: stares at Luminifera
4826• panth: puts Tuzi down gently
4827<Teruzi> I'm pretty sure you would be great at carrying me around Panth
4828<@Mishie> how are you so tumblr
4829<@Mishie> hooooow
4830<Teruzi> Mishie please, don't say the T word
4831<Teruzi> that's just rude
4832<Teruzi> I can't even
4833<%JENTHULHU> Tumblr is best used for smut
4834<O\\\O> Smut? *O\\\O perks ears up*
4835• VereorPain: tumblr triggers Teruzi
4836<VereorPain> Mishie:
4837<panth> I'm not sure actually, depending on your weight I guess? I'm capable of piggybacking 60-odd kg about, but that translates to very small people xD
4838<VereorPain> That's nthing
4839<VereorPain> Didyou ever see
4840• Luminifera: hugs spelt
4841<Teruzi> also Mishie you shitter
4842<Teruzi> you also are terrible
4843<panth> VereorPain, without the e's, would be VrorPain
4844<Luminifera> mishie why do you hate me so much? Jesus.
4845<panth> Vrorrrrrrrr
4846<@Mishie> any particular reason?
4847<Teruzi> I know it amuses you but at least -try- not to make fun of the homeschooled boy
4848<VereorPain> The list the tumblrrites channel did?
4849• soulpelt|class: huggles Luminifera
4850<@Mishie> Luminifera: hate is such a strong word
4851<@Mishie> but
4852<VereorPain> The "trigger warning for every Worm chapter" list?
4853<@Mishie> the words you say are just so bad
4854<@Mishie> like
4855<panth> Though hm. Rhet's not homeschooled any more is he?
4856<Teruzi> well no
4857<Elara> Rhet is now at university panth
4858<panth> I mean he did end up at Texas A&M
4859<Teruzi> he's in fucking college, so I should hope so
4860<Luminifera> yeah
4861<@Mishie> people who say shit exactly like you do are what make the problem worse
4862<Luminifera> he has scholarships for being a very smart boy
4863<Luminifera> he's so cute
4864• Teruzi: pats Mishie
4865<Luminifera> ^-^
4866<Teruzi> yo Imma let you finish
4867<panth> He's on scholarship probation for not going to sleep when he's supposed to >;o
4868<Luminifera> hahaha
4869<Teruzi> but beyonce had the best video something something
4870<Luminifera> that too
4871<Elara> Vern how are you projecting the faults of a few people on a whole website, you're a derp
4872<@Mishie> Luminifera: basically, by making shit a huge personal attack, that's literally the worst way to do shit
4873<@Mishie> like
4874<%JENTHULHU> it makes you like a politician
4875<Luminifera> "huge personal attack"
4876• Teruzi: finishes reading logs
4877<Teruzi> oh man
4878<Luminifera> did I stab you
4879<Teruzi> look I'm giving you two shit
4880<Teruzi> but I would
4881<Luminifera> are you hurt
4882<Teruzi> SO
4883<Teruzi> make fun of him as well
4884<Teruzi> goddamm
4885<@Mishie> you're attacking an entire group
4886<@Mishie> also
4887<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  ugh olive don't start with the girls rape too thing
4888<Luminifera> I'm attacking you, you say
4889<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  please dont
4890<Luminifera> an entire group
4891<@Mishie> [01:03]    Luminifera  are you afraid of walking alone at night because a woman might rape you?
4892<Luminifera> I'm attacking them!!!! with spears.
4893<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
4894<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  it just wouldn't work
4895<@Mishie> lumi
4896<@Mishie> if you're just going to be a shit about this
4897<@Mishie> you can sit in time out
4898<Luminifera> mishie
4899<@Mishie> if you want to talk like an adult
4900<@Mishie> you can
4901<@Mishie> :)
4902<@Mishie> I
4903<Olivebirdy> Okay, so what would an 'adult' say?
4904<@Mishie> I'm really trying to be lenient and polite about things
4905<Olivebirdy> I can actually tell.
4906<@Mishie> but if you're not going to bother with that, it's literally proving my point
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4908<Teruzi> yeah, you're actually trying to be polite
4909<Teruzi> huh
4910<@Mishie> Luminifera: let me put it this way, if we both get sat down for a lecture about this topic in an attempt to reduce rape and ensure that people understand consent, should we get the same lecture?  And if not why?
4911<Luminifera> sigh
4912• panth: tries to remember if Mishie is male or female here
4913<Luminifera> if I give statistics you'll all just say I'm lying or demand proof even I I'm on a phone with very limited internet access
4914<@Mishie> please answer the question instead of being dramatic Luminifera :)
4915<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksptL/8c9674c91e.png
4916<@Mishie> I don't want statistics
4917<Luminifera> if I don't you'll demand something else
4918<@Mishie> answer the question
4919<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksqvJ/1f50b22487.png
4920<@Mishie> no
4921<Luminifera> what do you want then
4922<@Mishie> At no point
4923<@Mishie> have I asked for statistics Luminifera
4924<panth> But hm. I'd say the lecture would carry the same /principles/ but have very different advice in /application/?
4925<@Mishie> I have no asked for numbers
4926<Luminifera> because rape is a thing boys do at a startlingly higher rate than girls
4927<Luminifera> that's wy
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4929<@Mishie> so?
4930<Luminifera> because practically speaking
4931<Luminifera> in re a life
4932<panth> Clarvel: what are those
4933<@Mishie> no
4934<@Clarvel> spheres
4935<Luminifera> what actually happens
4936<panth> Yes but
4937<@Clarvel> I'm trying to implement shadows
4938<@Mishie> Luminifera: are you saying that at no point has a woman ever raped a man
4939<Luminifera> is that boys rape much more than girls do
4940<Luminifera> no
4941<@Mishie> or a woman raped a woman
4942<panth> Balloons? bubbles? random platonic ideal spheres?
4943<@Mishie> are you saying
4944<Luminifera> I fucing
4945<%JENTHULHU> Mishie
4946<@Clarvel> but the intersecting spheres are screwing up my calculations
4947<Luminifera> I don't have to do this.
4948<Elara> Mishie she clearly never said that
4949<Luminifera> Jesus fucking Christ.
4950<Luminifera> I'm so done.
4951<Elara> don't be a dick
4952<Luminifera> I'm so fucking done.
4953<@Clarvel> platonic ideal
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4955<@Mishie> so then
4956<@Mishie> Luminifera: should the lecture be the same
4957<@Mishie> Should I learn how to ensure that I am safe
4958<panth> Ah cool
4959<Luminifera> boys are idiots who literally refuse to self-educate, and hate you when they ask you to educate them
4960<@Mishie> and should you learn how to respect your partners consents
4961<Luminifera> I'm so done
4962<@Mishie> hey uh
4963<@Mishie> question
4964<Luminifera> see y'all later
4965<panth> Wonder if it'd be easier in a white-lit background or something
4966<@Clarvel> Luminifera: don't blame the whole on the few
4967<@Mishie> are you going to just keep making insulting generalizations?
4968<panth> The black surroundings don't make the shadows any easier to see
4969<@Mishie> like
4970<%JENTHULHU> do we have to educate against murder?
4971<Elara> Clarvel that is a true thing to say, but depending on what Lumi's personal experience is calling it "the few" might be a bit off, y'know?
4972<@Mishie> well
4973Jon is now known as Surarrin
4974<@Clarvel> Elara: true but lums is talking incredibly broadly
4975<@Mishie> JENTHULHU: I fail to see how having people being educated in ways to prevent anger/rage issues or how to defend themselves is a bad things
4976<@Mishie> like
4977<@Mishie> realtalk
4978Surarrin is now known as Jon
4979<@Clarvel> as in roughly half the population
4980<Elara> sure
4981<@Mishie> education in order to prevent murder seems like a pretty darn great idea
4982<%JENTHULHU> alright
4983<%JENTHULHU> HOW do you do it
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4985<@Clarvel> panth: http://puu.sh/ksqWv/6fffc9cad2.png
4986<Teruzi> how do you do what? properly educating people against rape?
4987<@Mishie> literally just gave two suggestions
4988<%JENTHULHU> well
4989<Elara> and yeah, we educate against murder. every time you tell a kid "you don't hit to get what you want" you're educating in a small way against murder
4990<@Mishie> like
4991<Teruzi> well for starters you could start by educating people about the nature of sexual abuse
4992<@Mishie> are you literally saying
4993<@Mishie> "well, we can't stop every murder/rape via education so we shouldn't try at all"
4994<%JENTHULHU> alright, let me be a bit more clear
4995<@Mishie> because I really hope I'm wrong in getting that vibe
4996<@Mishie> and I think we're getting a bit away from the topic of Luminifera never answering my question
4997<@Mishie> without being insulting
4998<@Mishie> :)
4999<Teruzi> what are preconceptions about it that keep people quiet or make people never seek help. Then you can segue into the rape talk. Which of course, would take in consideration the fact that women are indeed at a highest risk of rape. But that doesn't mean that all men are rapists. Which is the clear implication of what Lumi is saying.
5000<Elara> why are you so fixated on that one question Mishie?
5001<Teruzi> There's a big fucking difference.
5002<Elara> what do you gain from it?
5003<panth> Clarvel: ...hrrrrrh
5004<@Clarvel> ?
5005<panth> Maybe it's too much shadow or the light source needs moving?
5006<VereorPain> Elara: why  am I not allowed to blame Tumblr as a whole
5007<panth> Like I think it's tough because we're looking at the dark side
5008<VereorPain> When  Lumi is blaming half the human race?
5009<@Mishie> Elara: because I'm curious if she'll admit to how biased she's being
5010<@Mishie> that's all
5011<@Mishie> :)
5012<VereorPain> That seems incredibly sexist.
5013<@Clarvel> no, I know what the problem is: the intersecting spheres are not properly blocking the ray when I'm testing
5014<@Clarvel> but I dont know how to fix
5015<Elara> I talk to Lumi about blaming all boys, in ways that are more productive than half the chan shouting at her
5016<panth> ...oh
5017<Elara> I talk to you about blaming whole groups
5018<Elara> please don't assume I'm being unfair
5019• panth: doesn't even know where the ray is coming from Clarvel
5020<@Mishie> just asking a single question waiting for an answer
5021<@Mishie> ;)
5022<@Mishie> :) *
5023<@Clarvel> the light scource
5024<@Clarvel> :)
5025<Elara> Mishie I can see defensible reasons to have separate lectures
5026<Teruzi> your spheres are becoming more sophisticated Clarv
5027<Teruzi> I almost said balls
5028<@Mishie> Elara: such as?
5029<@Clarvel> Teruzi: ikr
5030<Elara> personally I'd opt to have the same ones
5031<@Mishie> but even if the exact details are different
5032<@Mishie> the topics should be the same
5033<Teruzi> well Mishie, it's a fact that rape victims don't always seek help or make denounces out of shame and guilt
5034<Elara> but for example you might believe that men will take the material more seriously if it's delivered by a man saying "right lads, realtalk, this shit won't fly"
5035<VereorPain> Lumi shuts down whenever under scrutiny. She apologizes and leaves to avoid the topic instead of becoming increasingly confrontational, unable to continue to argue her point in an environment that doesn't seem to share her opinion.
5036<@Mishie> Elara: which is a difference between tone and content
5037<@Mishie> wait, poorly worded
5038<Teruzi> separating the classes by gender would help alleviate some of this feelings with teenagers, enabling a more frank discussion
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5040<@Mishie> rephrasing
5041<Chime> irc is used by many to be recreational, it's fair not to want to deal with heavy shit in the middle of recreational activities
5042<Elara> Vern maybe she doesn't want to have a massive fucking fight
5043<@Mishie> Elara: that issue falls under presentation and tone, not under the content of the lecture
5044<Teruzi> HOWEVER this would mean that women and men would probably get two completely different educations, which is bad 'cause then empathizing with the other gender would be considerably harder
5045<@Mishie> Elara: how is this a massive fight
5046<@Mishie> like
5047<Elara> maybe she's been socialised her entire life to back down from confrontation
5048<VereorPain> Chime: doesn't fly with the way she joined into the conversation
5049<VereorPain> I quote
5050<@Mishie> this is a hilariously tame irc convo
5051<Teruzi> this is Mishie using the kiddie gloves
5052<@Mishie> also
5053<@Mishie> also
5054<VereorPain> "hahahahahahahahahahaa
5055<VereorPain> "hahahahahahahahahahahaha
5056<@Mishie> aaaaalssooooo
5057<@Mishie> quick question
5058<VereorPain> "Jesus fuck hahahahahaha"
5059<@Mishie> who was the one slinging around insults
5060<Teruzi> then again, I agree that you two are railing too hard on her
5061<@Mishie> laughing instead of answering
5062<Teruzi> give the girl a break
5063<Teruzi> no one was born learned
5064<panth> VereorPain: I see that as a sort of bitter laughter kind of thing tbh
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5066<@Mishie> LOOK AT HOW NICE I AM
5067<Elara> eh, she has some legitimate rage
5068<@Mishie> NOT EVEN TAKING THAT OPENING FOR A JOKE
5069<Elara> maybe she doesn't express it that well
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5071<@Mishie> WHY TERUZI
5072<@Mishie> ;-;
5073<Elara> but nor does Vern
5074<Teruzi> look man
5075<Elara> so eh
5076<Teruzi> I'm bad at just slinging shit to one side
5077<VereorPain> The only thing I got pissed at as the dismissive laughter and her accusation that I'm a woman hater because I'm. Not a fan or relationships
5078<@Mishie> do you not know how hard it is for me to resist taking your openings Teruzi
5079<@Mishie> ;)
5080<Teruzi> but yes, Mishie your effort is noted
5081<Teruzi> :D
5082<panth> VereorPain: I honestly don't see her laughter as dismissive
5083<Teruzi> I expected you to break back then
5084<@Mishie> ;)
5085<Elara> you can be pretty dismissive of women Vern
5086<@Mishie> I live to surprise
5087<Teruzi> that you can, Vern, I blame the ex
5088<panth> Bitter, or sarcastic, maybe? In a "are you really seriously asking this?" way?
5089<Teruzi> that's fine, but in this kind of discussion
5090<Teruzi> the last thing anyone wants to be
5091<VereorPain> Citation needed, Elara.
5092<Teruzi> is dismissive
5093<@Mishie> Elara: and lets be real, this is nowhere near the first time that Lumi has acted like this
5094<@Mishie> at all
5095<Elara> fine Vern, I will try to remember to cite you next time you do it
5096<Elara> Mishie I know
5097<@Mishie> which is why I find it so annoying
5098<@Mishie> that she finds it alright to snipe
5099<@Mishie> lay in with insults
5100<@Mishie> and then bail
5101<@Mishie> at the very least, when I do that shit I do it deliberately to fuck with people
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5103<VereorPain> The problem is that most of Lumi's defense when she offends someone is 'I didn't mean to'.
5104<@Mishie> hell
5105<@Mishie> the way she was acting before was literally how I act when I'm trying to fuck with the derps in #wd
5106<Elara> my impression is that she starts the conversation, she gets dogpiled, then she nopes out
5107<@Mishie> and I can't be fucked to put in any effort
5108<VereorPain> But her, guess what, not meaning to doesn't flym
5109<@Mishie> yeah well, from what she's said of her home town
5110<@Mishie> she should be used to that
5111<@Mishie> :|
5112<Teruzi> that's my impression as well, but then again, she goes out of her way to generalize all men as children that are rapists and refuse education
5113<Teruzi> and that's just grating
5114<@Clarvel> http://puu.sh/ksrv3/fe4ba0ae5c.png my shadows are backwards
5115<@Clarvel> ;_;
5116<Elara> yeah she's more than used to it Mishie
5117<Elara> that's why she fucking nopes out
5118<Teruzi> just add a minus sign Clarv
5119<Elara> she's had enough of it
5120<@Mishie> except if she's going to say shit
5121<@Clarvel> thats no
5122<@Mishie> either she stands by it
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5124<@Clarvel> t gonna work tuz
5125<VereorPain> Those are some nice balls you got there, clarvel
5126<Elara> yeah, she generalises pretty badly Tuzi
5127<@Clarvel> it's mostly positional data
5128<@Mishie> or is prepared to get hit
5129<panth> Clarvel: I'm guessing the light source is just over the horizon of the upper ball, out of sight?
5130<@Clarvel> yes
5131<@Clarvel> and a little closr to camera
5132<@Mishie> like holy shit what did she expect to happen when she says shit like that
5133<Elara> not gonna deny that, it's a thing that happens. she ain't the only one, but yeah
5134<panth> In which case some of the shadows are... yeah, backwards xD
5135<@Mishie> for everybody to go "yeah, I rape people all the time, in fact I'm literally raping somebody right now"
5136<panth> The little nubbins'
5137<Elara> Mishie I think you are rather misinterpreting what she actually said
5138<@Clarvel> yup
5139<@Mishie> "yeah, all guys want to be rapists and should be treated as such"
5140<Olivebirdy> I'm back. what's up?
5141<Elara> not what she said
5142<Teruzi> same ol'
5143<panth> ...Olivebirdy we're still stuck
5144<@Clarvel> problem right now is the ray returns the closest point hit, which is great for camer but shitty for shadows
5145<Olivebirdy> YAy!
5146<Elara> you lot inferred it
5147<Teruzi> what's camer
5148<Olivebirdy> Okay, so what's the question?
5149<@Clarvel> camera
5150<panth> Camera I'm guess
5151<Teruzi> well to be fair, the implication is pretty obvious
5152<panth> *ing
5153<panth> Yep
5154<Teruzi> ah, I see
5155<@Clarvel> can we stop talking about lumi
5156<@Clarvel> please
5157<Teruzi> yes, sure
5158<panth> Hmmm
5159<@Mishie> [01:00]    Luminifera  "teaching boys not to rape" doesn't go deep enough
5160<panth> Can't the ray return the farthest point or something
5161<Elara> ok Mishie, as you say "realtalk"
5162<Teruzi> I-I say realtalk
5163<@Clarvel> Mishie: Elara: drop it
5164<@Mishie> sadly I can't go back further for the other gems
5165<Elara> areet Clar
5166<@Mishie> rip my logs
5167<@Clarvel> seriously
5168<panth> Mishie could you uh PM Lumi or something and educate her your gentle way
5169<panth> >_>
5170<Elara> no Mishie don't
5171<Throne3d> Hey guys...
5172<@Mishie> panth: no point
5173<@Mishie> she'll just afk
5174<Elara> PM me if you wanna, leave Lumi alone for now
5175<@Clarvel> hey Truth
5176<@Clarvel> Throne3d:
5177• Mishie: shrugs
5178<Throne3d> Lol
5179<@Clarvel> shh
5180<@Mishie> I got dragged back into this derpery
5181<Truth> yes Clarvel?
5182<@Clarvel> mishie just stop replying
5183<panth> I mean it's all very enlightening but uhhh getting bit toxic (and really there's no point to it since she's afk)
5184<@Clarvel> not u Truth, no one wants the Truth
5185<Throne3d> I was confused earlier when I saw the chat, I'm confused now...
5186<panth> Aaaaaanyway
5187<@Mishie> mainly because glernaj was also saying derpy shit
5188<panth> Hey Throne3d
5189<Throne3d> Hey!
5190<Truth> plenty of people want me
5191<Throne3d> I like the truth.
5192<Throne3d> Truth, however, not so sure about.
5193<Throne3d> :P
5194<panth> The whole Truth?
5195<panth> And nothing but the Truth?
5196<Throne3d> And nothing but the truth?
5197<Throne3d> Dammit.
5198<panth> HA IMP'D
5199<@Clarvel> hey Truth are you blind?
5200<Elara> the Truth shall make you fret
5201<Truth> well my eyes suck
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5203<panth> And that's the gospel Truth
5204<Elara> nono it's justice that's blind
5205<Elara> ayy Lacks
5206<Lacks> G'day Elara.  How's it goin'?
5207<Elara> the chan's been derping about rape
5208<Elara> on the bright side, I have an interview a week today
5209<Teruzi> speaking of which
5210<Elara> \o/
5211<Elara> how're you?
5212<Teruzi> hey Clarvel why don't I have a cool % sign next my name?
5213<VereorPain> Hello lacks
5214<Teruzi> Sage does and she's never here
5215<Teruzi> :<
5216<@Clarvel> because uhh
5217<Teruzi> what's with this discrimination
5218<@Mishie> well
5219<VereorPain> No, Elara, we're being offends by shitty opinions. Ll
5220<@Clarvel> you didn't make the cut last time?
5221<@Mishie> because Sage used to be cool
5222<@Clarvel> ^
5223<Teruzi> aw man
5224Mishie sets mode +v Teruzi
5225<@Mishie> done
5226<+Teruzi> I'll take it
5227<@Clarvel> but once she got % she stopped coming by
5228<Lacks> VereorPain, huh?  Eye still a problem.
5229<@Mishie> yeah
5230<@Clarvel> I vote Teruzi replaces Sage
5231<@Mishie> it was p awkward timing
5232<Lacks> Also, good stuff Elara.  Interview for a good job, I assume?
5233<@Mishie> HMMM
5234<VereorPain> It got a bit worse, lacks
5235<Elara> Vern I said the chan in general, not anyone in specific. <3 you (mostly :P )
5236<Lacks> Oh dear...
5237<VereorPain> Seems like it's ocular herpes
5238<Lacks> How'd you manage that?
5239<+Teruzi> look if you need my resume
5240<VereorPain> Good question, I'm not sure.
5241<Elara> hoping it's a good job. signs are good so far, I'ma do some digging, see if the company holds up
5242<+Teruzi> I'm sorta ok to not go apeshit on people
5243<@Clarvel> and at least 3 refrences from the damned
5244<@Mishie> give me a sec
5245<VereorPain> Sure as hell nobody jizzed into my eye :|
5246<+Teruzi> and I promise I can curb bad conversations with a gentle but firm buttslap
5247<@Mishie> to remember how to set hops
5248<+Teruzi> like a loving father
5249<@Mishie> look
5250<panth> VereorPain: maybe it was your own jizz
5251<@Clarvel> ./mode +h Teruzi
5252<@Mishie> if I can remember how to permaset hops
5253<@Mishie> before I stop giving a shit
5254<Lacks> Yeah, Vern...  that's usually easy to rule out.
5255<@Clarvel> permset no idea
5256<@Mishie> Teruzi gets the job
5257<+Teruzi> <3 Clarv
5258<+Teruzi> <3 Mishie
5259<Lacks> Good stuff, Elara.  Good luck with it.
5260<@Mishie> so it's basically Teruzi vs my apathy
5261<VereorPain> But yeah, it is what it is
5262<panth> Pretty unfair fight that
5263<+Teruzi> well I'm gonna milk your lack of apathy
5264<+Teruzi> :D
5265<@Mishie> eh
5266<panth> VereorPain: so does that mean amputation :3
5267<Elara> thanks! if I can rid myself of the damn commute, hopefully more writing time? XD
5268<VereorPain> No.
5269<panth> Elara: YESSSS MORE WRITING
5270<@Mishie> sadly you've hit me in the middle of marathoning a show
5271<Lacks> Ideally, yeah.
5272<+Teruzi> dang
5273<Elara> that would be good right panth? :)
5274<panth> DISC/WORM SNIP ELARA PLS
5275<+Teruzi> it was worth a try
5276<@Clarvel> Teruzi: you are registered, correct?
5277<panth> Yes it would
5278<+Teruzi> yeah
5279<panth> I would totally want to read Granny mouthing off at Scion
5280<Elara> I still dunno how I'd approach a Disc/Worm snip tho panth
5281Mishie kicked Teruzi from the channel (rejoin quick)
5282<Throne3d> Lack... of apathy...
5283<Throne3d> So... the fact they actually care?
5284<Throne3d> xD
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5287<panth> Elara: with aplomb, skill, and your typical Britishness!
5288<@Mishie> jfc who doesn't have ajoin
5289<%Teruzi> I BREATHE
5290<@Mishie> ayyyyy
5291<@Mishie> I'm a god
5292<Throne3d> Je fume.
5293<%Teruzi> you are
5294<Throne3d> Wait, nope, that doesn't mean breathe.
5295<Throne3d> :D
5296<panth> xD
5297<Throne3d> (I actually breathe, not smoke)
5298<%Teruzi> I don't have ajoin, 'cause I care
5299<@Clarvel> ayy
5300<%Teruzi> I even type each name
5301<@Mishie> just a frondly reminder
5302<Throne3d> frondly?
5303<@Mishie> topic says respect ops
5304<Throne3d> Like... leafly?
5305<@Mishie> not hops
5306<@Mishie> :|
5307<panth> With fronds like these, who needs anemones?
5308<@Clarvel> gj mish
5309<%Teruzi> if people were respectful to me, how would I get off?
5310<%Teruzi> it sounds horrid!
5311<@Mishie> ;)
5312<Throne3d> o.e
5313<panth> ...
5314• panth: head tilts at Tuzi
5315• Teruzi: winks
5316• panth: scuttles behind Elara
5317<@Mishie> silly panth
5318<@Mishie> running only makes him harder
5319<@Mishie> :|
5320<%Teruzi> :D
5321<@Clarvel> thts why he scuttled
5322<panth> D:
5323• panth: scuttles /harder/
5324<@Mishie> lood
5325<Elara> right, fuck this shit I'm goin' home o/
5326<@Mishie> toodles
5327<Lacks> Later
5328<@Clarvel> bai
5329<%Teruzi> alright Clarv
5330<%Teruzi> more photos of your balls if you please
5331<%Teruzi> I'm sure you'll get the shadows just right eventually
5332<@Clarvel> takin a break
5333<@Clarvel> gonna ask TA to put slides online after class
5334<%Teruzi> that would be useful
5335<@Mishie> or just keep pming Teruzi pics of your balls
5336<%Teruzi> I mean, I won't be able to help
5337<%Teruzi> but I can appreciate 'em
5338<@Mishie> wait
5339<@Mishie> that's not what you told me
5340<%Teruzi> shh
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5344<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/7gfSN
5345<%Teruzi> TIL orcas are fucking terrifying
5346<Throne3d> That's...
5347<Throne3d> Kinda scary?
5348<%Teruzi> did you see the orca lifting a seal and kinda
5349<%Teruzi> breaking it?
5350<Throne3d> Beaching it?
5351<%Teruzi> no she beached it first, then just chomped down
5352<%Teruzi> also, if raptors can open doors
5353<%Teruzi> orcas can make waves
5354<VereorPain> Holy
5355<VereorPain> Holy shit
5356<VereorPain> My mother just now
5357<VereorPain> "I know we've been refugees as well, but those Syrians are just bad people, we shouldn't let them in."
5358<%Teruzi> isn't she like
5359<%Teruzi> turk
5360<VereorPain> My mother hates Germany, Jews AND refugees. The Holy trinity of racism.
5361<%Teruzi> haha
5362<VereorPain> Lebanese, teruzi
5363<%Teruzi> right, sorry
5364<%Teruzi> well I do hope you said something on the lines of
5365<%Teruzi> "well I mean, you got in"
5366<%Teruzi> "it's not like they have high standards"
5367<%Teruzi> or at the very least sighed very dramatically
5368<VereorPain> I did say the first part, not the second one
5369<soulpelt|class> man
5370<%Teruzi> don't let your dreams be dreams
5371<VereorPain> And she went 'but I know how Syrians are, we had some of them in Lebanon for a time'
5372<soulpelt|class> Poor Syrians man
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5374<VereorPain> I can tell you first hand hoe they are
5375<%Teruzi> "well mom the had lebanese at lebanon too but they ended up kicking them out to germany"
5376<VereorPain> Because the building next to our school
5377<VereorPain> Will be turned into a refugee camp
5378<VereorPain> In a few weeks
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5380<soulpelt|class> ayyyy Chrono|Class
5381<soulpelt|class> feeling better?
5382<Chrono|Class> eeeh
5383<Chrono|Class> not overly so
5384<soulpelt|class> D:
5385<Chrono|Class> totes ready to learn factored terms tho
5386<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/peWoezb
5387<Chrono|Class> entirely prepared for this learn
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5389<soulpelt|class> hahaha
5390<Olivebirdy> Whooo
5391<Olivebirdy> All caught up.
5392<Chrono|Class> its that really awful dry cough
5393<Chrono|Class> and a p much constantly running nose
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5395<%Teruzi> you should grab an onion
5396<%Teruzi> then boil it in milk
5397<%Teruzi> then you add pepper
5398<%Teruzi> and you drink i
5399<%Teruzi> t
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5402<Megafire> Hello folks.
5403<Chrono|Class> I'll consider it
5404<Chrono|Class> When I'm not in class
5405<Yewnyx> wow.
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5407<Yewnyx> i missed a lot last night.
5408<Chrono|Class> Got the hops, tuz?
5409<%Teruzi> yes!
5410<Chrono|Class> nice
5411<%Teruzi> I bothered people
5412<%Teruzi> crying might have been involved
5413<Chrono|Class> I put you & Thalia on the Epoch sheet
5414<cukier> Guys. Guys. I'm programming and things work. I'm happy.
5415<cukier> :)
5416<Chrono|Class> Careful, something is going to go to shit very soon
5417<Chrono|Class> it is inevitible
5418<cukier> Oh no. :(
5419<%Teruzi> <3
5420<%Teruzi> have faith cukier
5421<cukier> Why are you so moodkiller?
5422<%Teruzi> it will be a small thing
5423<%Teruzi> minuscule
5424<%Teruzi> so small, you won't be able to see it.
5425<cukier> :)
5426<%Teruzi> you won't be able to fix it either, but hey
5427<cukier> I mean things don't work all the time, but I'm learning how to make them work.
5428<cukier> And there are solutions.
5429<cukier> So all is good.
5430<Chrono|Class> Do you have a character sheet for Flow, Teruzi
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5432<keyonte0> Gangplank makes a damn good Bruiser with the Juggernaut items, dunno why people don't try it.
5433<%Teruzi> 'cause there's better options
5434<%Teruzi> ones that don't involve someone with a gun
5435<%Teruzi> going melee
5436<keyonte0> Glass cannon, I know
5437<keyonte0> But he still does an absurd amount of damage as a bruiser while being obscenely hard to kill or pin down.
5438<keyonte0> I went Lucidity boots, Triforce, Sterak's Gage, Deadman's Plate, and Spirit Visage.
5439<%Teruzi> oh man, I've played so little lol lately
5440<%Teruzi> I don't even know what Sterak -is-
5441<keyonte0> Was thinking about finishing up with Titanic Hydra just because I had an extra slot and didn't know what to do with it.
5442<cukier> Hmm... I should make a backup of my code.
5443<keyonte0> http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sterak's_Gage
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5446<keyonte0> It increases BASE AD, meaning it synergizes with Trinity  Force.
5447<%Teruzi> huh, neat
5448<VereorPain> My eye
5449<VereorPain> Hurts in every was imaginable
5450<Chrono|Class> It hurts in latin?
5451<VereorPain> way*
5452<%Teruzi> Vern, is it getting worse?
5453<VereorPain> It feels worse
5454<%Teruzi> did you go to the doctor]?
5455<VereorPain> yes
5456<VereorPain> Twice
5457<VereorPain> And I got another appointment on Thurstday
5458<VereorPain> Thursday*
5459<keyonte0> My full build made Gangplank extremely agile and burst resistant, so I was both a bitch to catch, and a bitch to kill when I actually got caught.
5460<keyonte0> Essentially just letting me drop barrels where I please.
5461<keyonte0> And they still did a lot of damage.
5462<%Teruzi> too bad they do little to nothing
5463<keyonte0> They still chunk people hard.
5464<keyonte0> And slow.
5465<keyonte0> So I got the utility in there.
5466<Megafire> Damn, Vern.
5467<Yewnyx> how's your health insurance?
5468<%Teruzi> german
5469<Yewnyx> also this is why i like onemedical, because i can just email my doctor for stuff like this
5470<VereorPain> It's German
5471<VereorPain> Thank you for asking
5472• VereorPain: high-fives Teruzi
5473<%Teruzi> :D
5474• Teruzi: high-fives
5475<Yewnyx> ah.
5476• Yewnyx: has $500/mo health insurance
5477<Yewnyx> not that i use it.
5478<Yewnyx> company used to pay for the bulk of it, I'm on COBRA
5479<VereorPain> Here your insurance is paid in part by your employer, and in part by taxes taken off your income
5480<VereorPain> But if you are unnable to play this yourself due to a lack of job
5481<VereorPain> The government takes care of that
5482<Yewnyx> yeah, i know
5483<Yewnyx> my cousins are german
5484<%Teruzi> it's a pretty ok deal
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5486<VereorPain> Yeah, there
5487<%Teruzi> being awake by day
5488<%Teruzi> is so boring
5489<%Teruzi> why do people do this
5490<Yewnyx> what do you mean?
5491<howl> cultural bias
5492<howl> light didn't used to be cheap and plentiful
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5494<tubes> wait Teruzi do they do the whole "eat dinner at 10pm, go to bed at 4am at the earliest" thing in south america
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5496<%Teruzi> no it's just me
5497<%Teruzi> and I ate dinner at like
5498<%Teruzi> 4 am
5499<%Teruzi> maybe
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5501<%Teruzi> otherwise dinner times vary wildly
5502<%Teruzi> on one hand in Colombia
5503<%Teruzi> dinner tends to be 7-8
5504<%Teruzi> Argentina is all over the fuckin place
5505<%Teruzi> like 8-11
5506<%Teruzi> even on week days
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5509<OliveB> Also because light triggers certain biological cycles.
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5511<cukier> #triggerwarning
5512<Moloch> ?
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5515<Moloch> speak of the devil
5516<cukier> <OliveB>  Also because light triggers certain biological cycles.
5517<OliveB> Oi.
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5520<Moloch> oh boy the party is starting
5521<OliveB> cookie: http://www.supermemo.com/articles/polyphasic.htm
5522<OliveB> It's a good article
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5525<Megafire> Hello Calmaxe.
5526<Megafire> Really enjoyed this Twig chapter.
5527<@Wildbow> Thank you!
5528<@Wildbow> I'm glad
5529• Wildbow: just got back from a grocery run to find the larger of the dogs he's dogsitting had diarrhea in the house.
5530<Megafire> Oh god.
5531<Megafire> That sounds absolutely terrible.
5532<@Wildbow> This is a dog that walks as she poops
5533<%Teruzi> oh
5534<%Teruzi> ew
5535<Megafire> So now you have a trail all over the carpet?
5536<@Wildbow> Thankfully, -thankfully- on hardwood.
5537<@Wildbow> With splashback/spray on three separate walls in the office.
5538<Megafire> Ew.
5539• Wildbow: nods
5540<Megafire> I am so glad I had an early dinner today, because that would easily kill my appetite.
5541<%Teruzi> I do hope you cleaned before logging in
5542<Megafire> Holy shit.
5543<@Wildbow> Got up at 10, let dogs out, came back, went to grocery store, came back to crime scene.
5544<@Wildbow> Was about 11:30
5545<@Wildbow> Just wrapped up now at... 1:05
5546<%Teruzi> sheesh
5547<Megafire> I would be in the mood for a scalding hot shower after that.
5548<Moloch> oh god
5549<Moloch> that's disgusting
5550<%Teruzi> is the dog ok?
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5552<OliveB> Yeah, that was a good chapter.
5553<OliveB> Did Sy pull BAd Cop, Good Cop on purpose, or was that a lucky coincidence?
5554<@Wildbow> Yeah
5555<@Wildbow> Dog is ok
5556<@Wildbow> It's a twice-a-year thing for her
5557<@Wildbow> There's a prescription medication sitting on the counter right now, that I've started giving her
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5559<@Wildbow> It just happened that this year's (second?) explosion happened while I was dogsitting
5560<%Teruzi> a streak of bad luck
5561<%Teruzi> and poop
5562<Elara> Ayy Wilbur o/
5563<@Wildbow> Health problems from being a puppy farm dog
5564<@Wildbow> o/
5565<OliveB> :p
5566<@Wildbow> I'm just glad it was on hardwood and not on the carpet or the tile in the front hallway.
5567<%Teruzi> indeed
5568<Moloch> ohohoho
5569<OliveB> I could make a horrible pun about dogshitting.
5570<@Wildbow> I've dealt with the problem on the tile on a previous year.  It's irregular tile with texture to it, and it's mottled.
5571<OliveB> In fact, I just did :)
5572<OliveB> yuck
5573<@Wildbow> Took me 2.5 hours to clean up well enough that I was sure
5574<OliveB> Yuck, again
5575<Elara> But cracks in the wood, no?
5576<Elara> I mean, our cat's been weeing everywhere because she's stressed by moving house, but I'd rather she did that on the tile than on the wood
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5578<@Wildbow> My uncle is pretty good about taking care of the house, since he only works part-time doing odd jobs.  The laminate seems fresh and there seems to be a good seal between the wood slats.
5579<@Wildbow> But there's nothing I can really do if it has seeped in - I was meticulous and on a final wipe-down with spray, the paper towel came back clean.
5580<Megafire> Yet another reason I don't have a dog.
5581<Elara> even with all that, I still want a dog :(
5582<@Wildbow> I recommended Mr. Money Mustache to a bunch of other writers the other day, got to reading the blog again.
5583<Megafire> The primary reason is that my landlord doesn't allow me to have pets.
5584<@Wildbow> Lots of talk about the pros and cons of dogs, especially financially, given the nature of the blog.
5585<Antioch> As long as the disinfectant seeps in too!
5586<@Wildbow> (I was a little annoyed at the obvious disparity between his 'you want a dog, you're being dumb!' and 'you're allowed to have only one kid!' with no mention of having none.  Pretty clear bias between the sets of articles.
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5588<@Wildbow> But got me thinking about the logistics of having a canine.
5589<Antioch> A lot of financial downsides to be sure but I'd generally say the mental health benefits outweigh the cost
5590<@Wildbow> That's my feeling
5591<%Teruzi> you get sick less with a dog as well
5592<@Wildbow> According to studies, having a dog has a concrete benefit to mental health & happiness.
5593<Lacks> +1 for having a dog being a good thing for mental health.
5594<@Wildbow> Having a baby has a detrimental health to both.
5595<Lacks> I've seen it first hand with my mom.
5596<@Wildbow> *detrimental effect
5597<Megafire> And cats
5598<Megafire> *?
5599<%Teruzi> eeeh
5600<%Teruzi> it has a half and half effect
5601<Antioch> Personally I'm fond of cats, but only certain ones
5602<@Wildbow> Cats do have a benefit, admittedly.
5603<Antioch> The old, fat sleepy ones that move once every 24 hrs
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5605<Antioch> I'm guessing having a dog has a physical health benefit as well, what with all the walks
5606<@Wildbow> I think the benefit of dogs is that they force you to be more adventurous and are more social as creatures.  That's good when you're like me.
5607<Oz> if you walk it
5608<soulpelt|> ayyyyy Antioch
5609<soulpelt|> Dogs are generally more social than cats
5610<soulpelt|> what being pack animals and all
5611<@Wildbow> Ehhhhh!
5612<Yewnyx> dogs interact with people, cats grace you with their presence from time to time, and I say this as a cat person :P
5613<Lacks> Dogs also benefit a schedule, I think.  They require walking, and that's something you need to work into your day if you have one.  Can't just sit around all day when you have a dog.
5614<Antioch> o7
5615<tubes> so why are we discussing the benefits of dogs vs cats vs infant humans as pets?
5616<@Wildbow> Because Wildbow just had to clean up a crime scene and it raised the question.
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5619<cukier> I want to go under the quilt, but I also want to work. I'm afraid that my brain would rather go to sleep if I'm in bed.
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5621<Antioch> Exit the quilt.
5622<cukier> :(
5623<cukier> I'm cold. And I'm missing a sock.
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5625<%JENTHULHU> All the spiders clap along with the music
5626<Megafire> :D
5627<@Clarvel> *clap*
5628<Megafire> Undertale is the best.
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5630<cukier> ./\(00)/\
5631<Antioch> Undertale is fantastic.
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5634<Megafire> I fucking love the Temmies.
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5637<%JENTHULHU> HOI
5638<cukier> o/
5639<@Clarvel> zop?
5640<Megafire> Did you know that 'hoi' is Dutch for 'hi'?
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5642<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/Gkz4pHy
5643<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/CotdFcA.gif
5644<Megafire> Why'd you have to pick something cute and turn it into something horrifying, Clarvel?
5645<@Clarvel> ...have you /met/ me?
5646<Megafire> ...
5647<Megafire> That is a fair point.
5648<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/1B0EQg0
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5650<@Clarvel> I post things that are cool/interesting and if it's really good/topical sometimes you get horror
5651<@Clarvel> plus eldrich things are just nifty
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5653<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/IPjC5mo
5654<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/Xw31jmc
5655<@Clarvel> http://imgur.com/gallery/lYdQ05A
5656<Megafire> Someone really wore that to class.
5657<@Clarvel> yes
5658<Megafire> And those are awesome.
5659<howl> wonder what eldritch meant, before it meant eldritch
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5661<Megafire> Did the word exist?
5662<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/xS2hQjW.jpg
5663<@Wildbow> Eldritch relates to Old English El- (else) and rice (realm); also linked to Scottish variant 'elphrish'.  Used in the context of 'elf's realm'
5664<howl> First known usage 1508, possibly from the Middle English elfriche, meaning fairy kingdom.
5665<@Clarvel> http://i.imgur.com/aGPkvQE.jpg
5666<howl> damn, ninjad
5667<@Wildbow> But took on the meaning of hideous and disconcerting.
5668<Megafire> Huh.
5669<Megafire> That's really interesting.
5670<howl> percent surprised Wildbow knew this: 0%
5671<soulpelt|> mhm
5672<soulpelt|> Was the Lovecraft the one who popularized it as being something so full of 'nope' you shouldn't be near it?
5673<OliveB> Boooowww, did Sy play Bad Cop, Good Cop on purpose? Please say yes :)
5674<@Wildbow> Already did
5675<@Wildbow> Read up
5676<OliveB> :D
5677<OliveB> Loooking up!
5678<OliveB> Oh, thought you were answering the dog question.
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5680<Elara> yay for etymology :D
5681<OliveB> I got suspicious...
5682<soulpelt|> Elara: did you see my Tinkers tech table?
5683<Elara> spelt no?
5684<soulpelt|> Elara lookit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16npLv6SUzc1vGebo3CjvlDwpUIyedMhq3jI2xTYXKGE/edit
5685<Elara> you cheeeeeky fuckers. wow
5686<Elara> so I've got this interview, right. coming up next week
5687<Elara> the recruiter phones me to *talk me through the usual questions this company asks* so I can prepare and have a better shot at getting the job
5688<Megafire> How nice of them.
5689<Lacks> Was it an actual interview?
5690<Lacks> Like, a sneaky on-the-phone interview sort of thing?
5691<@Wildbow> If it's a job you really need & want, then consider doing some research on who is who in the company, and the details on the company beyond the minor stuff.
5692<@Wildbow> I find that's usually big bonus points; I haven't ever had an interview and not gotten a job.
5693<@Wildbow> Getting the interview was always the problem.
5694<Elara> fortunately all the stuff she told me was pretty standard, so I don't feel like I'm cheating
5695<Elara> (if you can't write pseudocode to find the nth term in the Fibonacci sequence, what are you doing going for a programming job?)
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5697<Megafire> Wow, seriously?
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5699<Megafire> n = (n-1) + (n-2)
5700<Megafire> Right?
5701<Megafire> I didn't mess that up, did I
5702<Megafire> *?
5703<cukier> You did.
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5705<cukier> Well...
5706<Jemnyte> Unless you n value is literally 3
5707<Jemnyte> Yes
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5709<cukier> fib(n) = fib(n-1) + fib(n-2)