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19Well, I highly doubt you are the only one wondering
20the halls in search for your place.. I beleive tghe
21mojority of people, sane or not, are still
22searching... Just don't end up the one that Stops
23looking.. It'll come.
24
25DB
26
27--- Eric B <ericb333@hotmail.com> wrote:
28>
29> Today I ate a meal at a fancy restaurant. I like to
30> do that
31> sometimes. It makes me feel like I'm part of the
32> world. Makes me
33> realize nothing is impossible.
34>
35> A man sat near me. He was wearing a ponytail. The
36> waiter came and
37> said: "Yes sir." The man said: "Yes. Do you have a
38> salad? I'm not
39> supposed to be eating." And the waiter said: "A
40> very nice arugula."
41> The man said: "Arugula? No, no more arugula, if I
42> have one more piece
43> of arugula I'm going to die. What sort of plain
44> fish do you have?"
45> And the waiter said: "I can ask." And the man said:
46> "how does it
47> come?" And the waiter said: "With capers and
48> sun-dried tomatos. It
49> is very nice." And the man looked troubled and
50> paused and bit his
51> lower lip and squinted his eyes a little as if he
52> were trying to see
53> the waiter better, then he said: "All right, I guess
54> I'll have that."
55>
56> I was very impressed by the man because he seemed to
57> be comfortable
58> with who he was. He belonged to something, he was
59> part of something
60> bigger. He knew his place.
61>
62> I don't know my place. I wish I did.
63>
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87From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 10 20:15:29 2000
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91From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
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107Uh... I'm kinda confused. What did the man do to indicate he was comfortable
108with himself? Do you mean to imply that the ponytail was a sign of
109nonconformity? How did he know his place??
110
111-Other Eric, feeling like he missed something. I haven't slept in a while...
112
113Eric B wrote:
114
115> Today I ate a meal at a fancy restaurant. I like to do that
116> sometimes. It makes me feel like I'm part of the world. Makes me
117> realize nothing is impossible.
118>
119> A man sat near me. He was wearing a ponytail. The waiter came and
120> said: "Yes sir." The man said: "Yes. Do you have a salad? I'm not
121> supposed to be eating." And the waiter said: "A very nice arugula."
122> The man said: "Arugula? No, no more arugula, if I have one more piece
123> of arugula I'm going to die. What sort of plain fish do you have?"
124> And the waiter said: "I can ask." And the man said: "how does it
125> come?" And the waiter said: "With capers and sun-dried tomatos. It
126> is very nice." And the man looked troubled and paused and bit his
127> lower lip and squinted his eyes a little as if he were trying to see
128> the waiter better, then he said: "All right, I guess I'll have that."
129>
130> I was very impressed by the man because he seemed to be comfortable
131> with who he was. He belonged to something, he was part of something
132> bigger. He knew his place.
133>
134> I don't know my place. I wish I did.
135
136--
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165In a message dated 3/10/00 4:08:32 PM Pacific Standard Time,
166ericb333@hotmail.com writes:
167
168<< Today I ate a meal at a fancy restaurant. I like to do that
169 sometimes. It makes me feel like I'm part of the world. >>
170
171Which restaurant was this? Sounds like fun.
172
173Oh, and how do I get info on the east-bay coffee thingy? I was gone when
174this all changed and am in the dark.
175
176Guess I'll be at Assimilate tonight even though I look like crapola. Anyone
177see an indian/mexican looking guy with Vinyl pants, say Hi!
178
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181Anthony
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188From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 10 23:46:39 2000
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191From: Zagor <gsxrr@earthlink.net>
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207Hey Eric,
208
209Sounds like a wonderful moment.
210I know exactly what you mean.
211Stuff like that happens to me more often as I grow older.
212I actually kind of live for those moments now.
213
214In a way that guy is a part of you,
215You know that don't you?
216
217You will find your place.
218
219best,
220Zagor.
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227From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sat Mar 11 01:56:12 2000
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230From: cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com>
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247I don't think anyone ever truly "finds their place" in
248any permanence. Over the years I've felt that I've
249found it but it never lasts. "The place" keeps
250changing for me as I grow older and experience more of
251what life has to offer. Perhaps that just for me.
252Finding momentary "places of me".
253How do you define "finding your place"? Is it knowing
254who you are and accepting it or is it knowing your
255place in this world, how you fit into it?
256
257=====
258Drawn to Bacchus's abode, I sought there to conspire.
259But it was in the city of the dead that I found my heart's desire.
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269From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 12 07:58:37 2000
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272From: Aki Sasaki <lucifer@darksecretlove.com>
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289Eric B pontificatemeditatesoliloquized:
290
291> Sometimes I feel like I know what life is.
292
293 this philosobyte was brought to you
294 by the letter y and the number -i.
295
296i liked the bit about the dog shit,
297perverse sense of humor here,
298and i really liked the bit about the feeling being over.
299this philosobyte made a lot more sense to me than the previous one.
300
301 this philosoreview was brought to you
302 by the late night munchies after shrine.
303
304aki
305mm, mm, ramen.
306
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335>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
336>
337>Sometimes I feel like I know what life is. I can feel it. I think,
338>this is what Zen masters feel. for one moment, I feel like it all
339>makes sense.
340
341To understand the universe, start with a blade of grass.
342
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352From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 13 11:53:13 2000
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370I don't think that "finding your place" has snything
371to do with acceptance. You should never settle for
372anything.. regardless of what it is.. There is always
373something better.. Once you feel comfortable, maybe
374thrn, that is "your place"... But I think you're
375right... We don't have any specific "place" to call
376our own.... we are either following someone else's
377guidlines. or ge lost along the way..
378
379--- cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com> wrote:
380>
381>
382>
383> I don't think anyone ever truly "finds their place"
384> in
385> any permanence. Over the years I've felt that I've
386> found it but it never lasts. "The place" keeps
387> changing for me as I grow older and experience more
388> of
389> what life has to offer. Perhaps that just for me.
390> Finding momentary "places of me".
391> How do you define "finding your place"? Is it
392> knowing
393> who you are and accepting it or is it knowing your
394> place in this world, how you fit into it?
395>
396> =====
397> Drawn to Bacchus's abode, I sought there to
398> conspire.
399> But it was in the city of the dead that I found my
400> heart's desire.
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423From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 13 13:20:34 2000
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425Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:16:48 -0700
426From: Zagor <gsxrr@earthlink.net>
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447cat anime wrote:
448
449> I don't think anyone ever truly "finds their place" in
450> any permanence. Over the years I've felt that I've
451> found it but it never lasts. "The place" keeps
452> changing for me as I grow older and experience more of
453> what life has to offer. Perhaps that just for me.
454> Finding momentary "places of me".
455> How do you define "finding your place"? Is it knowing
456> who you are and accepting it or is it knowing your
457> place in this world, how you fit into it?
458>
459
460It is probably best to describe what this place is. The first thing that
461comes to my mind when somebody says my place, is the place in universe,
462the earth, nature. When Eric first wrote about the guy with the pony
463tail he wrote about the way this guy ordered his food. He had enough of
464arugula salad so he decided to eat fish. Both are health food.
465To me health food especially relates to nature. Eating right and knowing
466whats good for your body is a connection with nature, and also something
467spiritual which is also good for your soul. One way to start finding
468your place. :)
469I do believe that I am a tiny piece of this whole big existance. Being
470harmonius with nature and other people gives me the sense of belonging
471and knowing my place. Which I feel good about. Learning more about
472myself seems like a good way to improve on being in harmony.
473I believe everything there is to know about nature and existance, we can
474find within. Hologram theory. The picture of the whole can be seen in
475every little particle.
476Does that make us ordinary, common, being just one of millions of dots.
477If one of us seases to exist then the whole is not the same anymore, may
478be it is not whole anymore.
479I don't know you but I feel like I exist to be harmonious with the
480whole.
481How? is another long story.
482
483Zagor.
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491<I>cat anime wrote:</I>
492<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><I>I don't think anyone ever truly "finds their place"
493in</I>
494<BR><I>any permanence. Over the years I've felt that I've</I>
495<BR><I>found it but it never lasts. "The place" keeps</I>
496<BR><I>changing for me as I grow older and experience more of</I>
497<BR><I>what life has to offer. Perhaps that just for me.</I>
498<BR><I>Finding momentary "places of me".</I>
499<BR><I>How do you define "finding your place"? Is it knowing</I>
500<BR><I>who you are and accepting it or is it knowing your</I>
501<BR><I>place in this world, how you fit into it?</I>
502<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
503It is probably best to describe what this <U>place</U> is. The first thing
504that comes to my mind when somebody says my place, is the place in universe,
505the earth, nature. When Eric first wrote about the guy with the pony tail
506he wrote about the way this guy ordered his food. He had enough of arugula
507salad so he decided to eat fish. Both are health food.
508<BR>To me health food especially relates to nature. Eating right and knowing
509whats good for your body is a connection with nature, and also something
510spiritual which is also good for your soul. One way to start finding your
511place. :)
512<BR>I do believe that I am a tiny piece of this whole big existance. Being
513harmonius with nature and other people gives me the sense of belonging
514and knowing my place. Which I feel good about. Learning more about myself
515seems like a good way to improve on being in harmony.
516<BR>I believe everything there is to know about nature and existance, we
517can find within. Hologram theory. The picture of the whole can be seen
518in every little particle.
519<BR>Does that make us ordinary, common, being just one of millions of dots.
520<BR>If one of us seases to exist then the whole is not the same anymore,
521may be it is not whole anymore.
522<BR>I don't know you but I feel like I exist to be harmonious with the
523whole.
524<BR>How? is another long story.
525
526<P>Zagor.
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537From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 13 15:06:56 2000
538Subject: Re: [SFG] my place
539To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
540Date: Mon, 13 Mar 100 11:57:30 -0800 (PST)
541From: Grey Wolf <greymage@armory.com>
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555> From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
556>
557> I don't think that "finding your place" has snything
558> to do with acceptance.
559
560Not acceptance by other people, no... in fact, you have no chance of
561really finding your place, so long as you pin hopes on that.
562However acceptance *by yourself* is key to finding your place, and
563that's a lot easier if you know (notice) who you are.
564
565> --- cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com> wrote:
566> >
567> > I don't think anyone ever truly "finds their place"
568> > in any permanence.
569
570*smile* What *is* permanence?
571
572> > Over the years I've felt that I've
573> > found it but it never lasts. "The place" keeps
574> > changing for me as I grow older and experience more
575> > of life has to offer. Perhaps that just for me.
576> > Finding momentary "places of me".
577> > How do you define "finding your place"?
578
579Any way you like, I suppose... but there is a place that is you,
580and you're in it right now.
581
582> > Is it knowing
583> > who you are and accepting it or is it knowing your
584> > place in this world, how you fit into it?
585
586It's more like knowing who you are and experiencing that... and it's
587something which people never, never do, with very rare exception.
588Most people don't even really start to try.
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594From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 16 15:50:42 2000
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596Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 15:44:10 -0500 (EST)
597From: deborah k <vampyra@mail.com>
598To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
599Subject: RE: [SFG] old
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612
613growing old is inevitable.. but hey, i think it would be nice to grow old..
614i know i will apprecaite life, and everything around me more. i always
615wondered what i would look like old and wrikled, and grey... i'm not in a
616rush to get there, but, i know i won't mind when i am.
617
618------Original Message------
619From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
620To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
621Sent: March 16, 2000 8:17:26 PM GMT
622Subject: [SFG] old
623
624
625
626I listened to some people talking in the supermarket today. They were
627being friendly to each other. A very old man wearing a hearing aid
628was buying an apple. The lady behind the cash register said, "Mr. G.,
629how are you today?" He said, "What?" and then she said, "How are you
630today?" He said, "I'm living." And she said, "Well, that's
631important." He said, "What?" And she said, "That's important." He
632didn't say anything after that.
633
634It's good to be young. It's terrible to be old. When you're old, all
635you think about are parts of your body.
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654From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 16 16:35:53 2000
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656Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:26:31 -0800 (PST)
657From: Aki Sasaki <lucifer@darksecretlove.com>
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673
674> He said, "I'm living." And she said, "Well, that's
675> important." He said, "What?" And she said, "That's important."
676
677i have been brought up to believe that mental age is just as important
678as physical age, if not more.
679
680i've seen thirty- or forty- something people ready to give up on
681life, reduced to the day to day bit of working, slouching, eating,
682defecating, whining, sleeping, and aching... lower lifeform base
683survival stuff. no 'life' to speak of... not in the physical sense,
684slightly in the social sense, but intensely in the energy, mental
685mindstate sense.
686
687akira kurosawa was what, seventy? eighty? and half blind when he
688filmed ran.
689
690physical health can and will affect mental mindstate. but i agree
691with my parents on this whole thing. y'all may have seen sixty or
692seventy year olds who look younger than some people who are forty
693or fifty. i know i have. i've seen completely jaded teenagers
694who had all the potential and energy in the world but no drive to do
695anything.
696
697my parents can be kinda smart. sometimes.
698even though they're my parents ;-)
699
700aki
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711From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 07:53:34 2000
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714Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 04:50:12 -0800
715From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
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731What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the posts
732you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote myself,
733"WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax intellectual and
734have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW WHERE
735THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally trying to
736confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you posting
737radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have opposable
738thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
739
740Eric B wrote:
741
742> I wonder what it would be like to be a criminal. Someone who does
743> really bad things and no one knows about them. Like a spy. Or an FBI
744> agent. People who steal cars must be like that. Working alone in the
745> middle of the night. Like performers without an audience.
746>
747> I could write something on a wall and everyone would see it but no one
748> would know I wrote it. I could even stand there acting innocent and
749> point at the writing and say, "Look at what someone did!"
750>
751> I could stick a piece of sticky paper to someone's back in the subway
752> and all day long they would have it sticking to them and never know.
753> In fact I've done that. Just a small piece.
754>
755> I could stand on a crowded sidewalk and not move and no one would know
756> why.
757
758--
759"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
760Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
761 -Industrial 101
762
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769From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 08:19:17 2000
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772From: reverie <solace@accesscom.com>
773To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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786
787My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends purposefully respond
788like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then they all go have a
789good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
790
791Teresa
792
793Eric Gottesman wrote:
794
795> What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the posts
796> you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote myself,
797> "WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax intellectual and
798> have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW WHERE
799> THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally trying to
800> confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you posting
801> radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have opposable
802> thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
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809From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 09:06:06 2000
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812From: "Garvan Power" <synthetic_minds@hotmail.com>
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814Subject: Re: [SFG] criminal
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827
828*sits back and laughs* it would seem that there is at least one on every
829list.........
830
831G.
832
833>From: reverie <solace@accesscom.com>
834>Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
835>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
836>Subject: Re: [SFG] criminal
837>Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:13:00 -0700
838>
839>
840>My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends purposefully
841>respond
842>like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then they all go
843>have a
844>good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
845>
846>Teresa
847>
848>Eric Gottesman wrote:
849>
850> > What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the
851>posts
852> > you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote myself,
853> > "WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax
854>intellectual and
855> > have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW
856>WHERE
857> > THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally
858>trying to
859> > confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you
860>posting
861> > radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have
862>opposable
863> > thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
864>
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878From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 09:21:53 2000
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898fumed eric at another eric:
899>What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the
900>posts you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote
901>myself, "WTF?". . . . Are you posting radomly to the list without actually
902>subscribing to it? Do you have opposable thumbs? Is anybody else getting
903>this?
904<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
905well, yeah, i get it . . . i remember thinking this way myself . . . back
906when i was, oh, around 11 or 12
907
908. . . rowan! <missmogg@slip.net>
909"you can call me rude
910just don't call me any more"
911
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918From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 10:43:38 2000
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920Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 07:39:25 -0800 (PST)
921From: Sherilyn Connelly <lndgnwtr@hooked.net>
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938
939On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Eric Gottesman wrote:
940
941> What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the posts
942> you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote myself,
943> "WTF?".
944
945 When reading his posts (which, admittedly, is my own damn fault), the
946same thing keeps going through my head:
947
948 *syrupy music* "And Now, Deep Thoughts By Jack Handey..."
949
950
951<!--Sherilyn Connelly, n-N.A.G. ICQ:28086299-->
952That's me in the corner.
953
954
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961From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 12:45:24 2000
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964From: "Grant" <preyforme@hotmail.com>
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979
980>eric lights a nice fire:
981> >What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the
982> >posts you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote
983> >myself, "WTF?". . . . Are you posting radomly to the list without
984>actually
985> >subscribing to it? Do you have opposable thumbs? Is anybody else getting
986> >this?
987
988*roasts some marshmellows over the flame*
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997From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 12:48:42 2000
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1014
1015 I wonder what it would be like to be a criminal. Someone who does
1016 really bad things and no one knows about them. Like a spy. Or an FBI
1017 agent. People who steal cars must be like that. Working alone in the
1018 middle of the night. Like performers without an audience.
1019
1020Probably unfulfilling, and dull, not to mention not a very profitable line of
1021work. Except the spy thing, they probably get payed pretty well. I think you
1022have to be a ninja, so why don't you go to where ever it is that ninjas train
1023and become one.
1024
1025 I could write something on a wall and everyone would see it but no one
1026 would know I wrote it. I could even stand there acting innocent and
1027 point at the writing and say, "Look at what someone did!"
1028
1029And people would say " some idiot wrote on a wall, who cares, people do it
1030all the time.
1031
1032 I could stick a piece of sticky paper to someone's back in the subway
1033 and all day long they would have it sticking to them and never know.
1034 In fact I've done that. Just a small piece.
1035
1036Do you often commit random acts of mischief on stangers, where is the pay
1037off. Does it give you some sense of power, or a warm fuzzy feeling, knowing
1038that you know something know one else does, for instance where the hell your
1039going with this.
1040
1041 I could stand on a crowded sidewalk and not move and no one would know
1042 why.
1043
1044Well yes, everyone who is smaller than you would probably go around you, but
1045when someone bigger than you came up, and pushed you out of the way for being
1046an incovienience, then where would you be. Someone will know something that
1047you do not. Your weird, but easily pushed aside. This will probably give him
1048a warm fuzzy feeling, its nice that you want to spread that feeling around.
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1054From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 13:50:33 2000
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1057From: "Shadow Phredd" <shadowphredd@hotmail.com>
1058To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
1059Subject: Re: [SFG] criminal
1060Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:43:14 GMT
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1072
1073Again, I find myself professing undying affection for Eric G.
1074
1075-Phredd
1076>
1077>
1078>What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of the
1079>posts
1080>you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote myself,
1081>"WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax intellectual
1082>and
1083>have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW
1084>WHERE
1085>THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally trying
1086>to
1087>confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you posting
1088>radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have
1089>opposable
1090>thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
1091>
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1101From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 13:58:02 2000
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1119
1120Dearest Eric BBBBBBBBB....
1121your sweet yet amazingly meaningless words of spaghetti-like noodling are
1122immensely amusing.
1123it's refreshing to see something completely wihtout thought,
1124something based soley on the chemical emanations of dow jone's favorite
1125crackpipe.
1126And the best part, the veryest very bestest part?
1127You've successfully confuddled, inflamed, chafed, and comboozleated the
1128rest of the list.
1129LET THE POINTLESS RUMPUS BEGIN!
1130post something else, preferably about the way that people dont resemble
1131squid at all.
1132
1133-=Perki
1134
1135Q. why aren't people small, hard, round, and white?
1136
1137A. because if they were, THEY'D BE ASPIRIN!!!!
1138
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1154From: "Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>
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1156Subject: RE: [SFG] criminal
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1176
1177> My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends
1178> purposefully respond
1179> like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then
1180> they all go have a
1181> good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
1182
1183I don't know about anyone else, but the posts make perfect sense to me as
1184pseudo-koans. It's nice to see more thoughtful pearls thrown out amid the
1185normal chatter and life-maintenance posts of a social list. Raises the
1186interest:noise ratio & adds that little bit of incentive to stay; if the
1187poster really does think that way, I will be interested in meeting him when
1188that event comes to pass. Keep it up.
1189
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1198From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 16:03:40 2000
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1200Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:05:55 -0800
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1216
1217> Eric Gottesman wrote:
1218
1219> Do you persistently smoke crack before posting?
1220
1221Well, why the hell not smoke some crack?!? Let's all have ourselves a
1222communial crack smoking fest. How's about it, ya'll? Yee-haw!
1223
1224Smoke Crack. It sure will get ya going, I tell ya. It'll even clean
1225those pesky fecal stains from yer toilet bowl that yer Uncle Jethro left
1226after a family Christmas Dinner - almost 15 years ago.
1227
1228Good as an automobile scouring powder - use it on my trusty Chevrolet
1229pick-up myself - for scraping the innards and hair from those damn
1230forest creatures waiting on the side of the road with their thumps up
1231all the goddamn time. Serves 'em right.
1232
1233hektika :)
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1242From: "j450n Morales" <neurodancer@hotmail.com>
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1257
1258If that is the sort of thing that passes for intellectual now, I want to be
1259ignorant.
1260
1261~ neurodancer ~ newer waver ~
1262if(!kill(self))
1263 self.strength++;
1264
1265
1266> > My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends
1267> > purposefully respond
1268> > like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then
1269> > they all go have a
1270> > good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
1271>
1272>I don't know about anyone else, but the posts make perfect sense to me as
1273>pseudo-koans. It's nice to see more thoughtful pearls thrown out amid the
1274>normal chatter and life-maintenance posts of a social list. Raises the
1275>interest:noise ratio & adds that little bit of incentive to stay; if the
1276>poster really does think that way, I will be interested in meeting him when
1277>that event comes to pass. Keep it up.
1278>
1279>Reason
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1290From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 16:24:31 2000
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1293From: "tis BeRnIe" <tis_bernie@hotmail.com>
1294To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
1295Subject: [SFG] STORY TIME! w/ Bernie!
1296Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:18:07 GMT
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1308
1309 Yes folks, maybe you don't remember my FIRST story, but rest assured,
1310this one will be like stuff!
1311
1312 So like I was walking around and I went and drove about and there was
1313this guy and he was looking at me and I thought to myself, wow, it's a guy.
1314So then I'm all like, who the fuck are you bitch ass, and why you lookin' at
1315me like ya wanna throw down. And he said,
1316
1317"|I come for the purple|"
1318
1319I was all like, whoa, damn dude, but he was just standing there, lookin' at
1320me funny. So I was just like, hey man, wanna rob a bank. So he started
1321followin' me, and I gave him my 9mm, and we walked into the bank and
1322shouted,
1323
1324"Get your ass on the floor motherfuckers!"
1325
1326Then we ran around and the cops came and we all shot at each other, but then
1327I saw a door in the middle of the street, so I figured, WHOA! It's a trip to
1328the CANDY PLANET!
1329
1330*click-blink*
1331
1332So I wandered around the candy planet, and it was all hella comercialized.
1333So I stole some sees candy, and I'm all like, what's up purple dude, and he
1334was just like,
1335
1336"|Death comes not once but thrice|"
1337
1338So I was just all like, ahwahawahwhat? And then I wandered around and said,
1339wow dude, it's all like short and stuff so finally I just turned around and
1340I looked around and I looked more and I searched and I found. THE EV01 ball
1341of CHOCOLATE ORANGE. and this chocolate orange opened and looked and it said
1342that it was the orange. and I was just all like,
1343
1344"No shit dumbfuck."
1345
1346And then we all wandered around, but the purple dude was all like I hate you
1347orange thing and they kicked each others asses so orange thing left and
1348never got to wander around with us. So I was just wanderiing around and I'm
1349all like, all this candy blows ass and is ripping up my throat, fuck 'dat
1350shit. You crack head, lets blow this pig sty. So we went up to a blast
1351furnace and jumped in.
1352
1353*gasp, sizzle, pop"
1354
1355-BeRnIe
1356 ... Yo like post script do0d
1357
1358 If someone comes out and says their point, which is meaningless, does the
1359make it harder to understand than when someone comes and posts something
1360completly non-sensical anbd meaningless?
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1369From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 16:37:02 2000
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1374Subject: Re: [SFG] criminal
1375Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:30:29 GMT
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1386
1387
1388We're suppossed to ask why you posted this, and you aren't suppossed to tell
1389us, and then just then it will be as your post said.
1390
1391There's only one problem.
1392
1393No one cares.
1394
1395It's OK though, because then you'll see the darkness, and it will devour
1396you, and then you will be good and whole, like everyone else. Innocence is
1397the blind currency of the weak. Only through chaos and destruction can a
1398person truly be realised. for without focus there is pure energy, focus to
1399a point and you miss all around it. But everyone already knows this.
1400
1401just like everyone knows what you just said.
1402
1403Which is why no one really cares.
1404
1405- Dave
1406 ...init:block
1407
1408>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
1409
1410>I wonder what it would be like to be a criminal. Someone who does
1411>really bad things and no one knows about them. Like a spy. Or an FBI
1412>agent. People who steal cars must be like that. Working alone in the
1413>middle of the night. Like performers without an audience.
1414>
1415>I could write something on a wall and everyone would see it but no one
1416>would know I wrote it. I could even stand there acting innocent and
1417>point at the writing and say, "Look at what someone did!"
1418>
1419>I could stick a piece of sticky paper to someone's back in the subway
1420>and all day long they would have it sticking to them and never know.
1421>In fact I've done that. Just a small piece.
1422>
1423>I could stand on a crowded sidewalk and not move and no one would know
1424>why.
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1464
1465
1466> If that is the sort of thing that passes for intellectual
1467> now, I want to be ignorant.
1468
1469There can be tangible differences between language constructs that are the
1470result of intelligent thought or the intent to convey specific data and
1471language constructs designed to provoke intelligent thought or generate data
1472remotely. The two approaches can be mixed within a single construct or
1473either can stand alone. As a sweeping generality, the second type of
1474construct -- in any dilution -- can be viewed as intellectual, dadaism,
1475idiocy, or whatever you want to make of it; the point being that your
1476expressed view of anything like that is a mirror held to the self. Angled,
1477in this case, pointing outwards.
1478
1479Perki was entirely right about the squid. The last piece of shareware I
1480installed just gave me the following error message: "squid did not receive
1481your data." Probably true, but worrying.
1482
1483Second post for the day done, any more alleged intellectualism/ignorance
1484that involves me can take place offlist. I'd actually welcome the
1485distraction -- many more patch cable splices and I'll lapse into a coma.
1486
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1495From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 17:07:12 2000
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1513
1514Eric Gottesman wrote:
1515>>
1516>> > What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of
1517>>the
1518>>posts
1519>> > you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote
1520>>myself,
1521>> > "WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax
1522>>intellectual and
1523>> > have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW
1524>>WHERE
1525>> > THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally
1526>>trying to
1527>> > confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you
1528>>posting
1529>> > radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have
1530>>opposable
1531>> > thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
1532
1533Eat a salad, Eric. How is it these posts are so offensive to you, and yet no
1534one said a word about Brandon posting the url for a pic of a woman with an
1535avocado up her ass? Isn't that a bit more offensive? Is there any point to
1536that? Is there any point to half of the stuff posted on this forum?
1537 And for all of you that whine about precious bandwidth being taken up,
1538then post a few lines complaining about it. You are wasting bandwidth also.
1539
1540Theresa wrote:
1541
1542>>My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends purposefully
1543>>respond
1544>>like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then they all go
1545>>have a
1546>>good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
1547>>
1548>>Teresa
1549
1550Kinda like all the "In-listie" clique getting together to flame them for
1551this? If you knew this person, would you flame them? I have seen many well
1552known listies post stuff just as useless, including myself, and not be
1553flamed for it.
1554If you don't care, just delete. If it is a troll, don't feed it. It will die
1555of boredom. But perhapse there is something being said you are just not
1556getting.
1557
1558~FSO~
1559
1560P.S.
1561I am not flaming Eric or Teresa, just trying to do my part to make sure the
1562list does not turn into an online version of the clique of people who sit on
1563the speakers at Roddericks.
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1591
1592 Great, 2:30 and I'm on my last post for the day! I didn't say I was
1593-offended- by Eric B's post; I don't think that's an accurate wording. And yes,
1594I really could have lived without that avacado picture. Although the fact that
1595Brandon was able to react to being accused of having an avacado up his ass so
1596quickly and accurately was both amusing and disturbing, I really wish I hadn't
1597seen it!
1598 Anyhow, I see things that I might have been just as happy without having
1599seen on this list somewhat frequently; it doesn't mean I'm going to react to all
1600of them. Now, I actually spent a fair amount of time attempting to decipher a
1601couple of Eric B's earlier posts, and this morning noticed a disturbing pattern
1602of a. pretention, b. faux intellectualism (somethng that -really- bugs me) and
1603c. utter incomprehensibility. Furthermore, he doesn't respond to anything! Why
1604hasn't he written back telling me I'm being dumb or something? I just went
1605through every post I've ever made to this list, and found that exactly 1 post
1606was a totally new topic. Not to say that people shouldn't post new topics more
1607often than that, but Eric B. has had a total of four posts, they've all been on
1608new topics, he hasn't ever reacted to anybody else saying anything, to my
1609knowledge none of us know him in real life, and for all we know he could just be
1610writing mails to sfglj@sfgoth.com and not even be subscribed? Wazzup wit dat?
1611 Ok, now I'm just rambling because I'm bored. I really don't care all that
1612much about this, but Eric B., if you're listening, what were you trying to say
1613with that post? If it can be demonstrated to me that there is some greater
1614substance to your posts that's just flying over my head, I'll probably rescind
1615every negative comment I've made about you.
1616
1617Fuzzy happy dancing hampster fish.
1618
1619Fernando Orozco wrote:
1620
1621> Eric Gottesman wrote:
1622> >>
1623> >> > What the hell are you talking about? I just went through all four of
1624> >>the
1625> >>posts
1626> >> > you've made, and every single one has left me going, and I quote
1627> >>myself,
1628> >> > "WTF?". I kinda get the feeling that you're attempting to wax
1629> >>intellectual and
1630> >> > have no real substance, but I can't even say that because I DON'T KNOW
1631> >>WHERE
1632> >> > THE HELL YOU'RE GOING WITH ANY OF YOUR POINTS! Are you intentionally
1633> >>trying to
1634> >> > confuse us? Do you persistently smoke crack before posting? Are you
1635> >>posting
1636> >> > radomly to the list without actually subscribing to it? Do you have
1637> >>opposable
1638> >> > thumbs? Is anybody else getting this?
1639>
1640> Eat a salad, Eric. How is it these posts are so offensive to you, and yet no
1641> one said a word about Brandon posting the url for a pic of a woman with an
1642> avocado up her ass? Isn't that a bit more offensive? Is there any point to
1643> that? Is there any point to half of the stuff posted on this forum?
1644> And for all of you that whine about precious bandwidth being taken up,
1645> then post a few lines complaining about it. You are wasting bandwidth also.
1646>
1647> Theresa wrote:
1648>
1649> >>My theory is that he posts nonsensical stuff and his friends purposefully
1650> >>respond
1651> >>like they make sense so that OTHER listies will respond. Then they all go
1652> >>have a
1653> >>good laugh and feel like they've done something really clever.
1654> >>
1655> >>Teresa
1656>
1657> Kinda like all the "In-listie" clique getting together to flame them for
1658> this? If you knew this person, would you flame them? I have seen many well
1659> known listies post stuff just as useless, including myself, and not be
1660> flamed for it.
1661> If you don't care, just delete. If it is a troll, don't feed it. It will die
1662> of boredom. But perhapse there is something being said you are just not
1663> getting.
1664>
1665> ~FSO~
1666>
1667> P.S.
1668> I am not flaming Eric or Teresa, just trying to do my part to make sure the
1669> list does not turn into an online version of the clique of people who sit on
1670> the speakers at Roddericks.
1671>
1672
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1684From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 18:20:10 2000
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1687From: "Ceren Ercen" <ceren_ercen@hotmail.com>
1688To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
1689Subject: Re: [SFG] criminal(ly pointless.)
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1702
1703Fernando ventured:
1704
1705------------------------------------------------------------------
1706Kinda like all the "In-listie" clique getting together to flame them for
1707this? If you knew this person, would you flame them?
1708--------------------------------------------------------------------
1709
1710No. I'd personally poke them and ask them why they were being such a dork in
1711front of 300 people.
1712
1713These are very mindless posts. I agree with rowan. This stuff was "deep
1714thoughts" when I was about 11 or 12.
1715
1716Personally, I don't "know" people who decide that their mental epiphany
1717about sticking a piece of paper to someone, or being obnoxious just because
1718they want to be mysterious on a sidewalk is Just So Damn Deep And Special
1719they have to share it with a 300-person list that didn't sign up for
1720pretentious (and really bad) philosophical posing being shipped to them
1721daily.
1722
1723Okay, so, on some days we manage to avoid this. ;)
1724
1725-----------------------------------------------------------------
1726But perhapse there is something being said you are just not
1727getting.
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1729
1730Uh. right.
1731
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1733I am not flaming Eric or Teresa, just trying to do my part to make sure the
1734list does not turn into an online version of the clique of people who sit on
1735the speakers at Roddericks.
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1737
1738I suppose, then, that eric and teresa are doing just that. pointing at
1739someone's post that's just so sickeningly "oh. I am so deep" and going "uh,
1740that's really pointless."
1741
1742We have enough people wandering around, stoping on sidewalk to think about
1743how deep they are to have scribbled a bad word on the wall yesterday, and
1744like, d00d, the police won't like, ever find out, or nothin. word. Adding
1745pseudo-philosophy to that character is pretty annoying.
1746
1747Ceren / Deviltry's Seraph
1748(who put up with enough freshman college philosophy majors for one
1749lifetime.)
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1777
1778For Eric B:
1779Steps to Actually Being Vaguely Intellectual, Confusing, And Yet Still
1780Entertaining:
17811. Read Bernie's posts.
17822. Admit that he is far better at it than you.
17833. Go home (we only need one court jester, thanks, and we like our current
1784one just fine).
1785
1786Rae
1787
1788At 09:30 PM 3/19/00 GMT, you wrote:
1789>
1790>We're suppossed to ask why you posted this, and you aren't suppossed to tell
1791>us, and then just then it will be as your post said.
1792>
1793>There's only one problem.
1794>
1795>No one cares.
1796>
1797>It's OK though, because then you'll see the darkness, and it will devour
1798>you, and then you will be good and whole, like everyone else. Innocence is
1799>the blind currency of the weak. Only through chaos and destruction can a
1800>person truly be realised. for without focus there is pure energy, focus to
1801>a point and you miss all around it. But everyone already knows this.
1802>
1803>just like everyone knows what you just said.
1804>
1805>Which is why no one really cares.
1806>
1807>- Dave
1808> ...init:block
1809>
1810>>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
1811>
1812>>I wonder what it would be like to be a criminal. Someone who does
1813>>really bad things and no one knows about them. Like a spy. Or an FBI
1814>>agent. People who steal cars must be like that. Working alone in the
1815>>middle of the night. Like performers without an audience.
1816>>
1817>>I could write something on a wall and everyone would see it but no one
1818>>would know I wrote it. I could even stand there acting innocent and
1819>>point at the writing and say, "Look at what someone did!"
1820>>
1821>>I could stick a piece of sticky paper to someone's back in the subway
1822>>and all day long they would have it sticking to them and never know.
1823>>In fact I've done that. Just a small piece.
1824>>
1825>>I could stand on a crowded sidewalk and not move and no one would know
1826>>why.
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1850From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 22:59:30 2000
1851MIME-Version: 1.0
1852Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:56:44 -0800 (PST)
1853From: cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com>
1854Subject: Re: [SFG] STORY TIME! amd criminal
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1867
1868Yes this is a totally meaningless post that probably
1869no one will read but I just wanted to throw in my 2
1870cents. I really enjoy coming home from a long day at
1871work and reading such posts as these. Sometimes I just
1872don't want to use my brain to think or anything. I
1873just want to sit back, and read something for no other
1874reason than that it is amusing. If I miss some deeper
1875meaning that the writer intended, oh well. I got my
1876entertainment and no harm done. If I was offended by
1877what I read it's my fault for reading it.
1878Thank you to those who do the wonderfully amusing and
1879non-sensical or not posts.
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1885But it was in the city of the dead that I found my heart's desire.
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1896From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 19 22:59:30 2000
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1898Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 19:56:44 -0800 (PST)
1899From: cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com>
1900Subject: Re: [SFG] STORY TIME! amd criminal
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1913
1914Yes this is a totally meaningless post that probably
1915no one will read but I just wanted to throw in my 2
1916cents. I really enjoy coming home from a long day at
1917work and reading such posts as these. Sometimes I just
1918don't want to use my brain to think or anything. I
1919just want to sit back, and read something for no other
1920reason than that it is amusing. If I miss some deeper
1921meaning that the writer intended, oh well. I got my
1922entertainment and no harm done. If I was offended by
1923what I read it's my fault for reading it.
1924Thank you to those who do the wonderfully amusing and
1925non-sensical or not posts.
1926
1927
1928
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1930Drawn to Bacchus's abode, I sought there to conspire.
1931But it was in the city of the dead that I found my heart's desire.
1932
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1963
1964
1965Eric started with the notion of criminal behavior.
1966
1967Its easy.
1968to be a suspect.
1969its easy to accidentally take a loan and not know how to ever pay it back.
1970
1971its easy to place something in pocket and never look back
1972forget its even there
1973forget even why you wanted it in the first place
1974its easy to steal from the giving
1975its easy to make others believe they owe you money.
1976its easy to just look like a thief.
1977its easy
1978to just be
1979something no one ever thought you to be
1980worse to be what you aren't and thought to be
1981just cause your there
1982worrrying about it
1983all those times you commited the act
1984inside your mind
1985all the times you thought about running a person down
1986to fight till the end over a hurt emotion
1987its easy to accidentally kill
1988when you feel threatened and needing to be free like 5 miniutes away from
1989there.
1990its easy to pick a fight.
1991its easy to begin a life of crime
1992it isn't so easy to keep the sweat away
1993its easy to forget
1994its easy
1995to never forgive
1996
1997its easy to take from another
1998who doesn't know how to keep another
1999from doing what they see no reason
2000to not hurt another
2001
2002to hurt another
2003to hurt oneself
2004
2005with the usual "I didn't mean to."
2006"I don't know why"
2007"I got away with it"
2008"they made me do it, I had to."
2009
2010~the above has nothing to do with the sender who sollumly swears to have
2011never done any of the above ever. just heard a few kids talking one day
2012while she slept near by and remembers it all.
2013
2014Sometimes I think I would like to work for the FBI. Sales just suck that
2015much.
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2022From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 14:11:56 2000
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2024Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:08:11 -0700
2025From: Zagor <gsxrr@earthlink.net>
2026To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
2027Subject: Re: [SFG] smart?
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2046Eric B wrote:
2047
2048> What would happen if you were so smart that you were too smart and no
2049> one could understand you? There have been people who were smarter
2050> than everyone else. Albert Einstein was like that. A genius. But
2051> what if you were even smarter than that? If no one could keep up with
2052>
2053> you? So you had to become stupid just so you could have someone to
2054> talk to? Would it be worth the sacrifice? Or would it be better to
2055> just stay smart and alone? But then what would be the point?
2056>
2057
2058If you are that smart, you'll find a way to interact with people on a
2059different level and not feel lonely or isolated. For example you can
2060talk to people about usual subjects and learn about their subconscious.
2061I think even the most common type of people are full of information and
2062knowledge. Since you are so smart you can play a game, like, how to
2063interact with common people? game. Make sure you are honest and don't
2064hurt anybodys feelings though ! :)
2065
2066Zagor.
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2074<I>Eric B wrote:</I>
2075<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE><I>What would happen if you were so smart that you
2076were too smart and no</I>
2077<BR><I>one could understand you? There have been people who were
2078smarter</I>
2079<BR><I>than everyone else. Albert Einstein was like that. A
2080genius. But</I>
2081<BR><I>what if you were even smarter than that? If no one could keep
2082up with</I>
2083<BR><I>you? So you had to become stupid just so you could have someone
2084to</I>
2085<BR><I>talk to? Would it be worth the sacrifice? Or would it
2086be better to</I>
2087<BR><I>just stay smart and alone? But then what would be the point?</I>
2088<BR><I></I> </BLOCKQUOTE>
2089If you are that smart, you'll find a way to interact with people on a different
2090level and not feel lonely or isolated. For example you can talk to people
2091about usual subjects and learn about their subconscious. I think even the
2092most common type of people are full of information and knowledge. Since
2093you are so smart you can play a game, like, how to interact with common
2094people? game. Make sure you are honest and don't hurt anybodys feelings
2095though ! :<FONT COLOR="#F5050F">)</FONT>
2096
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2108From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 14:34:01 2000
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2110Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:28:29 -0800 (PST)
2111From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
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2125
2126
2127
2128I think intelligence is a burden, and is going to be
2129the downfall of the human race.. We are too amsrt for
2130our own good. Everything we think up, or create, is to
2131destroy all that we already own. Why is that? I know
2132I'm not the only one that feels this way.. Sometimes I
2133wish the human species could be simple minded. We
2134might live longer...
2135
2136Than again, with knowledge, we might be able to cure
2137this disease we've created called technology.. Or
2138altleast use it to make things that are beneficial.
2139We may think what we have created is this great life,
2140of coputers, and automobiles, an anything that we use
2141in our daily life, but all we are, is a parasite on
2142the stem of life.
2143
2144But I have to admit, I myself have fallen into that
2145league. I use these things that i complain about. But
2146that's life, right? We bitch and moan, but do nothing
2147to make it better. I try to do what I can. I'm not
2148superwomen or anything, but I feel better everytime I
2149do something that might partake in this "recycling
2150craze".
2151
2152Isn't it pretty outside?
2153
2154d }:oP
2155
2156
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2167From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 14:55:16 2000
2168MIME-Version: 1.0
2169Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 11:50:41 -0800 (PST)
2170From: LadyJ <jstpark@yahoo.com>
2171Subject: Re: [SFG] smart?
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2183
2184
2185What about sharing? Teaching? Taking what it is
2186that you have and spreading it around! hehe,
2187"that sounded weird" um? Just the excitement of
2188showing someone how to and watching them
2189implement that into their lives, weather it be
2190knowledge or something else. There are rewards
2191of feeling good about yourself and the ability to
2192positively (hopefully)influence someone's life.
2193
2194~LadyJ
2195
2196 "There is no Darkness, only the unseen"
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2208MIME-Version: 1.0
2209From: "Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>
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2211Subject: [SFG] Re: smart?
2212Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 12:06:50 -0800
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2229
2230Anti-intelligence sentiments seem to be a common enough viewpoint throughout
2231the ages. Ignorance is perceived to be bliss by some, understanding a curse.
2232But as a species, we stand at the cusp of godhood because of -- and only
2233because of -- our sentience.
2234
2235And the only way to live longer is to use our intelligence to understand and
2236manipulate the physical reality within which we dwell. The particular
2237varient of solipsism quoted below is currently a prettified
2238suicide...solipsism is a reward/fate that can only be safely taken once
2239humanity has transcended.
2240
2241Reason
2242http://www.exratio.com/
2243
2244> I think intelligence is a burden, and is going to be
2245> the downfall of the human race.. We are too amsrt for
2246> our own good. Everything we think up, or create, is to
2247> destroy all that we already own. Why is that? I know
2248> I'm not the only one that feels this way.. Sometimes I
2249> wish the human species could be simple minded. We
2250> might live longer...
2251>
2252> Than again, with knowledge, we might be able to cure
2253> this disease we've created called technology.. Or
2254> altleast use it to make things that are beneficial.
2255> We may think what we have created is this great life,
2256> of coputers, and automobiles, an anything that we use
2257> in our daily life, but all we are, is a parasite on
2258> the stem of life.
2259>
2260> But I have to admit, I myself have fallen into that
2261> league. I use these things that i complain about. But
2262> that's life, right? We bitch and moan, but do nothing
2263> to make it better. I try to do what I can. I'm not
2264> superwomen or anything, but I feel better everytime I
2265> do something that might partake in this "recycling
2266> craze".
2267>
2268> Isn't it pretty outside?
2269>
2270> d }:oP
2271>
2272>
2273>
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2292From: "E.Villedame" <elenorevilledame@yahoo.com>
2293Subject: Re: [SFG] smart? and then some...
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2307--- D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com> wrote:
2308>
2309> I think intelligence is a burden, and is going
2310to be the downfall of the human race.. We are
2311> too amsrt for our own good. Everything we think
2312up, or create, is to destroy all that we
2313> already own. Why is that? I know I'm not the
2314only one that feels this way...
2315
2316Indeed you are not:
2317
2318"The world we have made as a result of the level
2319of thinking we have done thus far creates
2320problems we cannot solve at the same level of
2321thinking at which we created them." —Albert
2322Einstein
2323
2324And how amusing is misspelling the word "smart"?
2325<giggle>
2326
2327And answering to the criminal rant:
2328
2329 Eric wrote:
2330
2331I could write something on a wall and everyone
2332would see it but no one
2333 would know I wrote it. I could even stand there
2334acting innocent and
2335 point at the writing and say, "Look at what
2336someone did!"
2337
2338GarmRia responded:
2339
2340And people would say " some idiot wrote on a
2341wall, who cares, people do it all the time.
2342
2343And I say:
2344
2345Yeah, but my favorite part in *Catcher in the
2346Rye" is when Holden almost goes mad from seeing
2347the word "fuck" written everywhere... Dunno why,
2348but that cracked me up.
2349
2350And hey, Kimberly? Just when I'm thinking you're
2351a total wingnut (although a wingnut I happen to
2352adore), you come up with your criminal rant, and
2353I see your genius... Brava.
2354
2355Oh, and since I've got your attention--if anyone
2356has been thinking about a new car (GarmRia,
2357specifically), I just got an *amazing* deal on a
23582000 Ford Focus (look at it first before damning
2359it because it's a Ford, really--
2360http://www.fordvehicles.com/vehiclehome.asp?vid=11),
2361with very little money down and really great
2362payments (Ford has their own financing, so
2363they're much more liberal with loans and interest
2364rates than most other dealers), and I have a
2365pretty crappy credit history (thank you,
2366divorce...). It's not the most flashy car on the
2367road, but I really like it. So, the point of all
2368of this is, if any of y'all are thinking of a new
2369car and are interested in the Focus, let me know,
2370because if you buy it from the guy I bought mine
2371from (or maybe just buy one at all, and say that
2372I recommended you, I'm not sure), I get a half
2373month off of my car payment, which, goodness
2374knows, I could use right about now... I'll even
2375drive you up to Novato (where I bought mine), if
2376you're serious about it.
2377
2378Laurelei
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2393From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 15:27:06 2000
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2412
2413At 12:06 PM 3/20/00 -0800, you wrote:
2414>
2415
2416Why is everyone replying to what is effectively a troll of sorts?
2417
2418 As the lovely Eric G pointed out, this other Eric guy doesnt even seem to
2419be on the list, much less a real person behind the curtain.
2420
2421Bella, bitch du jour
2422
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2457i was just mentioning to perki this weekend in fact, that life was much
2458easier when i was a blonder... people expected less of me... ;-)
2459
2460As far as technology being the problem, i would disagree with you. though
2461i'm a sysadmin by trade, my degree is in human ecology (I worked for the
2462Environmental Protection Agency for awhile). It means I'm qualified to run
2463around in a grass skirt, eat papayas, and write ethnographies... a little
2464too academic for me at this stage in my life....
2465
2466Technology isn't a disease. And though an epidemioogical model may be useful
2467for making a point for how humanity spreads (and believe you me, it will
2468only get worse until we break out of our test-tube, good ol' SpaceShip
2469Earth), i believe this is where the similarity ends.
2470Technology has allowed us to push the carrying capacity of our
2471environments-- better agricultural techniques, et al.
2472
2473If it weren't for technology, i wouldn;t have Unreal Tournament... ;-)
2474 ooo.... no vinyl...eeeek....
2475
2476god bless technology.... ;-)
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2494<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>i was just mentioning to perki this weekend in fact, =
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2497
2498<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As far as technology being the problem, i would =
2499disagree with you. though i'm a sysadmin by trade, my degree is in =
2500human ecology (I worked for the Environmental Protection Agency for =
2501awhile). It means I'm qualified to run around in a grass skirt, eat =
2502papayas, and write ethnographies... a little too academic for me at =
2503this stage in my life....</FONT></P>
2504
2505<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Technology isn't a disease. And though an =
2506epidemioogical model may be useful for making a point for how humanity =
2507spreads (and believe you me, it will only get worse until we break out =
2508of our test-tube, good ol' SpaceShip Earth), i believe this is where =
2509the similarity ends. </FONT></P>
2510
2511<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Technology has allowed us to push the carrying =
2512capacity of our environments-- better agricultural techniques, et =
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2515
2516<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>If it weren't for technology, i wouldn;t have Unreal =
2517Tournament... ;-)</FONT>
2518<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> ooo.... no vinyl...eeeek.... </FONT>
2519</P>
2520
2521<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>god bless technology.... ;-)</FONT>
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2532From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 17:09:32 2000
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2534Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:58:39 -0800 (PST)
2535From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
2536Subject: RE: [SFG] smart?
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2549
2550
2551>
2552> Technology has allowed us to push the carrying
2553> capacity of our
2554> environments-- better agricultural techniques, et
2555> al.
2556-------- yes tis true, but if we never had the
2557knowlegde, and were a simple species, we would never
2558haver come up with the structure, or killed off
2559millions of trees and acres upon acres of land rather
2560than living from them.
2561We are the reason the earth is dying. The dinosaurs
2562had there chance.They didn't have the access to
2563intelligence, to create things that are made to
2564destroy. What makes us so special that we are still
2565here? We destroy everything we touch. There's nothing
2566special about technology. Yeah, it's created a lot for
2567us to use, but in the meantime, it has killed off
2568about over 2000 species of other life that has never
2569done anything to harm their creator.
2570Yet, as I sit here and speak of this,I amtyping on a
2571computer at work. I work for Sony, who is a
2572contributor to the madness. Technological giant. But I
2573have to live, right? but why should I get the chance
2574to continue in life, just because I was gited with the
2575life of a human who has the knowlegde, when all the
2576animals and other species are dying off because of it,
2577and have done nothing wrong but to live?
2578I guess we'll never know. It's a question we'll all be
2579pondering until our time comes. I love my life, I love
2580the fact that I have the intelligence that I do. And I
2581thank my mother for giving this to me.
2582But I think it's just a weapon we've been given, and
2583toyed with it irresponisbly. One day it will bite us
2584in the butt, and we'll have only ourselves to blame...
2585and we'll be stuck pondering the thought " why
2586couldn't I have just left it to the imagination?",
2587But we're too selfish...
2588
2589But I do respect your point. I work in a technolocally
2590filled environment, and love it. I just wonder
2591sometimes. why?
2592
2593
2594
2595d
2596> god bless technology.... ;-)
2597>
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2625
2626okay.....now hold on just one cotton pickin' minute
2627here DeeKay, if that really is your name (to
2628paraphrase ^,,^)
2629I've had it up to here with "people are the reason the
2630earth is dying" and "technology sucks" and "life is so
2631horrible" and "woe is us blood blood"...etc etc etc.
2632Get a grip man, come to yer senses, wake up and smell
2633the goddamn photons!
2634Until someone figures out how to make magic work on a
2635less than personal scale technology is the only hope
2636we've got of making outta this century. You think that
2637tree-hugging hippy crap is going to save the planet?
2638Think again, things have gone too far. Yesh, I will
2639swiftly grant you the humans have made a mess of
2640things, but hell, who's to say something else wouldn't
2641have come along and made a cock-up of it all anyway?
2642hell, might as well blame the earth itself for
2643allowing humans to develop in the first place...yeah,
2644yeah, thats it, mother earth has a fucking suicidal
2645deathwish, THE GODDESS IS MANIC DEPRESSIVE! sheesh.
2646If it really depresses you that much, well hell,
2647quitcher handwringing and DO something! Me personally,
2648I think the world and the humans are going to be just
2649fine........in the long run.
2650
2651-=perki
2652 ...who still has some shred of faith that every
2653little thing is gonna be all right....DAMN being
2654raised by hippies.
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2683
2684> > Technology has allowed us to push the carrying
2685> > capacity of our
2686> > environments-- better agricultural techniques, et
2687> > al.
2688>-------- yes tis true, but if we never had the
2689>knowlegde, and were a simple species, we would never
2690>haver come up with the structure, or killed off
2691>millions of trees and acres upon acres of land rather
2692>than living from them.
2693>We are the reason the earth is dying. The dinosaurs
2694
2695This is a phrase that really bothers me. "The Earth" is not dying, it is
2696not alive to begin with. We don't have the capacity to destroy the Earth.
2697In theory, we may be able to bring it to a state in which we can not inhabit
2698it, but that is far from "dead".
2699
2700>had there chance.They didn't have the access to
2701>intelligence, to create things that are made to
2702>destroy. What makes us so special that we are still
2703>here? We destroy everything we touch. There's nothing
2704>special about technology. Yeah, it's created a lot for
2705>us to use, but in the meantime, it has killed off
2706>about over 2000 species of other life that has never
2707>done anything to harm their creator.
2708
2709Extinction happens. Humans did not invent this. Of course you could say
2710that we are causing more than our fair share, but at what point did we
2711become a seperate entity from all other life? We've adapted better than
2712anything else, if we do not continue to adapt we won't survive, no different
2713from any other species.
2714
2715>Yet, as I sit here and speak of this,I amtyping on a
2716>computer at work. I work for Sony, who is a
2717>contributor to the madness. Technological giant. But I
2718>have to live, right? but why should I get the chance
2719>to continue in life, just because I was gited with the
2720>life of a human who has the knowlegde, when all the
2721>animals and other species are dying off because of it,
2722>and have done nothing wrong but to live?
2723
2724Be a martyr or don't.
2725
2726>I guess we'll never know. It's a question we'll all be
2727>pondering until our time comes. I love my life, I love
2728>the fact that I have the intelligence that I do. And I
2729>thank my mother for giving this to me.
2730>But I think it's just a weapon we've been given, and
2731>toyed with it irresponisbly. One day it will bite us
2732>in the butt, and we'll have only ourselves to blame...
2733>and we'll be stuck pondering the thought " why
2734>couldn't I have just left it to the imagination?",
2735>But we're too selfish...
2736
2737No. Intelligence will never be the end of things. Stupidity is the
2738problem. Intelligence creates things, stupidity abuses the creations.
2739Technology itself is not inherently anything, it can only be what it's user
2740makes it to be.
2741
2742
2743>But I do respect your point. I work in a technolocally
2744>filled environment, and love it. I just wonder
2745>sometimes. why?
2746
2747How about because it improves your quality of life? This whole damning of
2748technology argument just really grates on me. No one is willing to give up
2749their TV, car, hospitals, food or running water, but it's oh so vogue to
2750talk about how terrible these things are.
2751
2752
2753
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2783
2784First of all mr.perki, i am not a tree hugging hippy..
2785i also love technology. i know we as a species are ok,
2786and quite gifted, and are going to be ok..
2787i was just making a point the particular person who
2788posted the original message.. so before you go and ram
2789a pole up someone's ass, try to look at it from their
2790point of view and the whole story. i was not whining,
2791nor was i giving a reason the earth is dying. I never
2792said technology sux. if you read my post, you would
2793notice i mentioned that i love it, and i'm glad we
2794have it, and now that we've come this far, it's
2795imperitive we keep going. we can't change right now,
2796what we have already done.
2797And i was reffering to my mom, as in the woman who
2798spread her legs and pushed me out.. not mother earth..
2799i thanked her, my mom, for my life.. not the friggen
2800planet. so, have fun with your retort to me or the
2801other people who might feel the same way.
2802I myself am tired of all the protesters who go about
2803chaining themselves to a tree, Hell, that tree could
2804bee added to my home as a shelf or something. I know
2805I'm looking for one right now, but that's not the
2806point i was making. I was just simply stating, that
2807knowledge / intelligence (which the original post was
2808about to begin with) sometimes, isn't all that great,
2809and sometimes, it's the greatest damn thing that could
2810have ever happened to us.. I was stating that to some,
2811it could be burden. to others, a precious gift. As i
2812see, you, like me, see it as a gift,, although there
2813are times, like i mentioned before, where i wonder why
2814us? why humans? it was more of a rhetorical remark
2815than anything..
2816But thank you for your opinion! it was most riveting..
2817
2818
2819i love disputes.
2820
2821d
2822
2823p.s. DK are my initials.. yes, my REAL initials..
2824first, and last. -------- TAG.... you're it.
2825
2826
2827--- Blud Pudle <bludpudle@yahoo.com> wrote:
2828>
2829> okay.....now hold on just one cotton pickin' minute
2830> here DeeKay, if that really is your name (to
2831> paraphrase ^,,^)
2832> I've had it up to here with "people are the reason
2833> the
2834> earth is dying" and "technology sucks" and "life is
2835> so
2836> horrible" and "woe is us blood blood"...etc etc etc.
2837> Get a grip man, come to yer senses, wake up and
2838> smell
2839> the goddamn photons!
2840> Until someone figures out how to make magic work on
2841> a
2842> less than personal scale technology is the only hope
2843> we've got of making outta this century. You think
2844> that
2845> tree-hugging hippy crap is going to save the planet?
2846> Think again, things have gone too far. Yesh, I will
2847> swiftly grant you the humans have made a mess of
2848> things, but hell, who's to say something else
2849> wouldn't
2850> have come along and made a cock-up of it all anyway?
2851> hell, might as well blame the earth itself for
2852> allowing humans to develop in the first
2853> place...yeah,
2854> yeah, thats it, mother earth has a fucking suicidal
2855> deathwish, THE GODDESS IS MANIC DEPRESSIVE! sheesh.
2856> If it really depresses you that much, well hell,
2857> quitcher handwringing and DO something! Me
2858> personally,
2859> I think the world and the humans are going to be
2860> just
2861> fine........in the long run.
2862>
2863> -=perki
2864> ...who still has some shred of faith that every
2865> little thing is gonna be all right....DAMN being
2866> raised by hippies.
2867>
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2891From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 20:49:57 2000
2892MIME-Version: 1.0
2893From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
2894Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:44:48 -0800
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2898Subject: Re: [SFG] smart?
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2910
2911I believe that most geniuses are quite eccentric if you look at their personal lives. I believe I saw a program on the psychology of genius once and it said that many geniuses are thinking so far ahead of their society that they are labeled crazy. Oscar Wilde was a brilliant writer and creative genius. He was also quite eccentric and got in quite a bit of trouble for having a male lover. James Joyce (correct me if I got the wrong name) another brilliant writer, but his poem Finnegan's Wake, well I have yet to hear of anyone making any sense of it. Some scholars say that the language he uses in that poem is too advanced for us to understand at this point in the evolution of English.
2912
2913And yes, most TV is targeted at the hoi polloi, and survey says that most people are stupid. So Dan Rather, whether or not he is actually an idiot, must communicate to the generally stupid population with simple language and ideas. Someone once told me that most newspapers are written at about the 8th grade reading level.
2914
2915and I happen to like reading random things by this Eric B person. maybe he is a genius and we are just interpreting his posts and nonsense because we are the idiots.
2916
2917Katy
2918
2919---- Begin Original Message ----
2920 From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
2921What would happen if you were so smart that you were too smart and no
2922one could understand you? There have been people who were smarter
2923than everyone else. Albert Einstein was like that. A genius. But
2924what if you were even smarter than that? If no one could keep up with
2925you? So you had to become stupid just so you could have someone to
2926talk to? Would it be worth the sacrifice? Or would it be better to
2927just stay smart and alone? But then what would be the point?
2928
2929It just seems so obvious that everyone is so stupid. When I watch the
2930evening news with Dan Rather sometimes it looks like he's smiling.
2931Maybe because he knows it's all so stupid. He'd probably just as soon
2932be describing the chimpanzee cage in the zoo.
2933
2934Of course there really are people suffering in other countries. I
2935guess if I lived in one of those countries he talks about and I was
2936starving to death or being shot at, I would have a different opinion.
2937---- End Original Message ----
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2950From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Mar 20 23:18:39 2000
2951MIME-Version: 1.0
2952Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:08:53 -0800
2953From: Tom Spindler <dogcow@redback.com>
2954To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
2955Subject: Re: [SFG] smart?
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2968
2969> What would happen if you were so smart that you were too smart and no
2970> one could understand you? There have been people who were smarter
2971> than everyone else. Albert Einstein was like that. A genius. But
2972> what if you were even smarter than that? If no one could keep up with
2973> you? So you had to become stupid just so you could have someone to
2974> talk to? Would it be worth the sacrifice? Or would it be better to
2975> just stay smart and alone? But then what would be the point?
2976
2977I find being stupid allows me to post on sfglj and get replies fairly
2978easily. Posting intelligently garners few if any responses.
2979
2980Tom,
2981who was told to write this by his MAGIC CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE
2982CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE CAPE.
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2989From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 03:13:17 2000
2990Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:04:29 -0800 (PST)
2991From: John M Vinopal <banshee@abattoir.com>
2992To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
2993Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3003
3004
3005
3006>The people on TV, the actors, killing each other - everybody knows
3007>about them. I get a free ride by watching them. At least I know I'm
3008>doing something a lot of other people are doing - we're all doing it
3009>at the same time, we're all watching TV. We're all together.
3010
3011Tonight I'm watching you on tv. You sit there, very still, watching
3012someone else, as if you can't tell I'm watching you. But its best to
3013be cautious about such things so I sit very still, watching you watch
3014someone else. In my stillness I nurse perceived slights against myself,
3015but salve them in the joy that I am not you, sitting still, and watching
3016someone else. How pathetic you look there, hunched down as if you'd
3017never been taught correct posture. An orphan no doubt, in principle if
3018not in fact. Sitting so still because your foster parents would beat
3019you otherwise. Pathetic. I'm watching you, and thereby I know I'm
3020better than you. Sit still boy, I'm watching you.
3021
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3028From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 03:38:31 2000
3029MIME-Version: 1.0
3030Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:34:04 -0800 (PST)
3031From: Aki Sasaki <lucifer@darksecretlove.com>
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3034Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3047
3048Eric B posted again:
3049<snip>
3050
3051I'd like to say that these quirky odd thoughts amuse me.
3052
3053But there seems to be a very vocal group of people who
3054don't like these on the list...
3055
3056If we can't work something out,
3057I wouldn't mind donating some web space for these thoughts
3058from Eric B, but I would mind giving out my password or
3059being someone else's web peon for no money, if it were on
3060an ongoing basis.
3061So that isn't a fix.
3062
3063But if you were to put these on a website instead of
3064sending them to the list, send me the URL Eric...,
3065my small list of sites I visit daily for amusement are
3066starting to run dry.
3067I'm glad Jamie Zawinski has a lot of useless junk on
3068his website that I find entertaining =)
3069I laughed pretty hard at his pheasantly numb story.
3070Yes, I'm a sick bastard.
3071
3072Apparently I'm just rambling.
3073Too bad I missed DG's 7th... work to do, no car.
3074Catching cold.
3075
3076aki
3077* need new car.
3078 need cargo space for music equipment.
3079 need to keep stuff out of rain.
3080 a friend is telling me to get an suv.
3081 can't parallel park hearse.
3082 can't afford humvee.
3083 can't picture self driving vw bus.
3084 is pickup + top really that different from an suv?
3085 argh.
3086 the humiliation. *
3087
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3097From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 04:38:44 2000
3098From: majcher@chorn.com
3099Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 04:34:58 -0500
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3103 (message from Aki Sasaki on Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:34:04 -0800 (PST))
3104Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3115
3116
3117Aki Sasaki <lucifer@darksecretlove.com>:
3118:
3119:I'd like to say that these quirky odd thoughts amuse me.
3120
3121I'm also sort of amused by Eric's rainman-like incoherency,
3122but yeah, I could see it getting old after a while. But...
3123
3124:But there seems to be a very vocal group of people who
3125:don't like these on the list...
3126
3127Geez, some guy posts three or four of his (as far as I can
3128tell) "Deep Thoughts" to the list, and everyone flips the
3129fuck out on him for invading their precious little space.
3130Maybe I haven't been keeping up with the traffic lately,
3131but it looks like he's at least sparked a semi-interesting
3132discussion or two.
3133
3134Like every other post here really matters to 300+ people.
3135
3136Lighten up.
3137
3138That means you too, Eric - maybe if you toned down the
3139self-inflicted melodrama, folks wouldn't be so hostile
3140toward you. Or not. Only one way to find out, hm?
3141
3142
3143DVS
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3149From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 05:52:32 2000
3150MIME-Version: 1.0
3151Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 02:37:30 -0800
3152From: saktii@pacbell.net
3153Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3166
3167I just wanted you to know that despite what everyone thinks, I find your
3168insights quite beautiful and I love your soul..... Thank you for being whatever
3169it is that you are...
3170
3171Eric B wrote:
3172
3173> I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3174> all the people shooting each other.
3175>
3176> I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3177>
3178> The people on TV, the actors, killing each other - everybody knows
3179> about them. I get a free ride by watching them. At least I know I'm
3180> doing something a lot of other people are doing - we're all doing it
3181> at the same time, we're all watching TV. We're all together.
3182>
3183> But then a commercial comes on or I see a reflection of myself in the
3184> window and because I stopped for a minute I realize what I'm doing.
3185> So I turn off the TV. And now I'm just sitting writing this. I
3186> forgot how nice it is to sit in the closet with the door closed.
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3202From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 10:11:31 2000
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3205From: "Grant" <preyforme@hotmail.com>
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3207Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3220
3221>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
3222>
3223>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3224>all the people shooting each other.
3225>
3226>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3227>
3228
3229Try Paxil.
3230
3231~G~
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3246Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3259
3260At 02:37 AM 3/21/00 -0800, you wrote:
3261>
3262>I just wanted you to know that despite what everyone thinks, I find your
3263>insights quite beautiful and I love your soul..... Thank you for being
3264whatever
3265>it is that you are...
3266>
3267
3268
3269You know it's not that some of us wouldnt mind reading odd thoughts from a
3270listee, but the boy hasnt ever really posted anything other than his own
3271special version of Jack Handey.
3272
3273He doesnt respond to threads, or to direct questions (ok he wrote me saying
3274he was too real). But it doesnt feel as he's truly a part of the
3275community, but that he's just using us to mentally masturbate into.
3276
3277 Is he actually a real person, or some second account by one of the listees
3278here poking at the hive with a stick again?
3279
3280Bella
3281---------------------------------------
3282*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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3289From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 16:39:42 2000
3290MIME-Version: 1.0
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3292From: "Adrienne A." <battymama@hotmail.com>
3293To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
3294Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3306
3307
3308>>
3309>>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3310>>all the people shooting each other.
3311>>
3312>>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3313>>
3314>
3315>Try Paxil.
3316>
3317>~G~
3318
3319
3320Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
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3349
3350>>
3351>>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3352>>all the people shooting each other.
3353>>
3354>>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3355>>
3356>
3357>Try Paxil.
3358>
3359>~G~
3360
3361Miss Adrienne wrote:
3362
3363Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
3364
3365Now wait just a gall darn tootin' moment here! Please don't even joke about
3366heroin use; I know too many people who've had their lives fucked up by
3367heroin use. I don't give a rat's ass if I get flamed about this, but please
3368don't joke about shit like that.
3369
3370Egan >:>
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3379From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 17:18:39 2000
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3382From: "Shadow Phredd" <shadowphredd@hotmail.com>
3383To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
3384Subject: Re: [SFG] late
3385Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:03:32 GMT
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3398>
3399>
3400>>>
3401>>>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3402>>>all the people shooting each other.
3403>>>
3404>>>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3405>>>
3406>>
3407>>Try Paxil.
3408>>
3409>>~G~
3410>
3411>Miss Adrienne wrote:
3412>
3413>Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
3414>
3415>Now wait just a gall darn tootin' moment here! Please don't even joke
3416>about
3417>heroin use; I know too many people who've had their lives fucked up by
3418>heroin use. I don't give a rat's ass if I get flamed about this, but
3419>please
3420>don't joke about shit like that.
3421>
3422Oh, shit, Adrienne was kidding? So I shouldn't have just shot up? Jeez, I
3423should read through all thezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.../thud
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3432From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 17:18:39 2000
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3435From: "Shadow Phredd" <shadowphredd@hotmail.com>
3436To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
3437Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3450
3451>
3452>
3453>>>
3454>>>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3455>>>all the people shooting each other.
3456>>>
3457>>>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3458>>>
3459>>
3460>>Try Paxil.
3461>>
3462>>~G~
3463>
3464>Miss Adrienne wrote:
3465>
3466>Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
3467>
3468>Now wait just a gall darn tootin' moment here! Please don't even joke
3469>about
3470>heroin use; I know too many people who've had their lives fucked up by
3471>heroin use. I don't give a rat's ass if I get flamed about this, but
3472>please
3473>don't joke about shit like that.
3474>
3475Oh, shit, Adrienne was kidding? So I shouldn't have just shot up? Jeez, I
3476should read through all thezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.../thud
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3485From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 17:41:38 2000
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3488From: "Adrienne A." <battymama@hotmail.com>
3489To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
3490Subject: Re: [SFG] junkie jokes
3491Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:23:16 GMT
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3503
3504>
3505>Miss Adrienne wrote:
3506>
3507>Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
3508>
3509>Now wait just a gall darn tootin' moment here! Please don't even joke
3510>about
3511>heroin use; I know too many people who've had their lives fucked up by
3512>heroin use. I don't give a rat's ass if I get flamed about this, but
3513>please
3514>don't joke about shit like that.
3515>
3516>Egan >:>
3517
3518
3519I have earned the right to joke about it.
3520I was a junkie once. My life used to be fucked up by heroin too. I used
3521to do a lot of heroin.
3522I don't anymore. Joking about it is like comic relief.
3523In fact I've done heroin with Chris Connelly. and William Tucker. and
3524Jonathan Melvoin. Thankfully Chris and I are still alive. I'm happy to still
3525be alive now. My life is better than it has ever been.
3526Hopefully your "friends'" lives aren't fucked up anymore. My heart goes out
3527to them. Sincerely.
3528
3529
3530Adrienne
3531
3532yes I know I've posted a lot today, but a lot I have read has hit home and
3533most of my posts are tied together today and it's that time of the month and
3534goddamn this is a long runon sentence
3535
3536
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3546From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Mar 21 21:17:48 2000
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3548Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:57:52 -0800
3549From: saktii@pacbell.net
3550Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3563
3564I understand your point, but even if it is some listee trying to rile people
3565up, I personally appreciate those random idiotically poetic little diatribes of
3566his. they're kind of pretty in their simplicity and there are just so many of
3567those "Hey you want to go to coffee?" "Yes, I want to go to coffee" listee
3568emails that I can take.
3569Who cares if he doesn't respond to other people's posts? i hardly ever do.
3570
3571Paula Ashton wrote:
3572
3573> At 02:37 AM 3/21/00 -0800, you wrote:
3574> >
3575> >I just wanted you to know that despite what everyone thinks, I find your
3576> >insights quite beautiful and I love your soul..... Thank you for being
3577> whatever
3578> >it is that you are...
3579> >
3580>
3581> You know it's not that some of us wouldnt mind reading odd thoughts from a
3582> listee, but the boy hasnt ever really posted anything other than his own
3583> special version of Jack Handey.
3584>
3585> He doesnt respond to threads, or to direct questions (ok he wrote me saying
3586> he was too real). But it doesnt feel as he's truly a part of the
3587> community, but that he's just using us to mentally masturbate into.
3588>
3589> Is he actually a real person, or some second account by one of the listees
3590> here poking at the hive with a stick again?
3591>
3592> Bella
3593> ---------------------------------------
3594> *sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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3608From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 22 01:53:42 2000
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3610From: LilethDawn@aol.com
3611Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 01:39:33 EST
3612Subject: Re: [SFG] late
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3625
3626In a message dated 3/21/00 1:34:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
3627battymama@hotmail.com writes:
3628
3629<< >>
3630 >>I can't sleep. I tried watching television but I got frightened by
3631 >>all the people shooting each other.
3632 >>
3633 >>I feel as if no one knows I'm here.
3634 >>
3635 >
3636 >Try Paxil.
3637 >
3638 >~G~
3639
3640
3641 Heroin works even better for sleeping. Sometimes you don't even wake up.
3642 >>
3643I seem to have had the same problem for quite some time now, but
3644unfortunately Paxil has the lovely side effect of violent and rather tiring
3645dreams- the kind where you awaken with bruises and such. 6 months of bad
3646dreaming was no picnic, but I wonder sometimes if I would rather have that
3647than all of the godforsaken infomercial people on TV running amok through my
3648head before I sleep. My condolences-
3649
3650L.
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3656From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 22 20:42:30 2000
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3658From: Ross <ross@roundpeg.com>
3659To: "'sfglj@sfgoth.com'" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
3660Subject: RE: [SFG] cheese
3661Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:29:00 -0800
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3681
3682its all about the cheese.....
3683by why be good? Ya think yer gonna go to heaven when you die?
3684
3685lemme tell you son, your saviour is in a box... pre-packaged, shrink-wrapped
3686and mass produced...
3687your saviour makes old, white slothful priveleged men fat and happy....
3688and they feed off your pain.
3689the fat lazy bastards.
3690and ya, you can beat your head against the wall... 1000 by 1000 they beat
3691their heads against the walls, until there is nothing but a bloody
3692stump, and a messy wall...
3693and you know the wall doesn;t care either...
3694
3695yah, smack is god for some... TV is god for others...
3696you can end it all, or be like the Buddhists and strive for a cessation to
3697samsara...
3698but samsara and nirvana are one and the same.
3699
3700me? i worship myself, and even that god i can't trust all the time
3701either....
3702but at least my god doesn;t tell me no sex til marriage
3703or that meat is murder (puhhhhhleeeez)
3704
3705 CHEESE IS EVIL. ;-)
3706
3707-----Original Message-----
3708From: Eric B [mailto:ericb333@hotmail.com]
3709Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:04 PM
3710
3711
3712I will make a resolution today to improve my life. I will learn
3713people's names. I will be more disciplined. I will care about other
3714people. I won't think negative thoughts. I won't have bad
3715fantasies. I won't want things. I will be good.
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3732
3733<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>its all about the cheese.....</FONT>
3734<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>by why be good? Ya think yer gonna go to heaven when =
3735you die?</FONT>
3736</P>
3737
3738<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>lemme tell you son, your saviour is in a box... =
3739pre-packaged, shrink-wrapped and mass produced...</FONT>
3740<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>your saviour makes old, white slothful priveleged =
3741men fat and happy....</FONT>
3742<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and they feed off your pain.</FONT>
3743<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the fat lazy bastards.</FONT>
3744<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and ya, you can beat your head against the wall... =
37451000 by 1000 they beat their heads against the walls, until there is =
3746nothing but a bloody</FONT></P>
3747
3748<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>stump, and a messy wall...</FONT>
3749<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and you know the wall doesn;t care either...</FONT>
3750</P>
3751
3752<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>yah, smack is god for some... TV is god for others... =
3753</FONT>
3754<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>you can end it all, or be like the Buddhists and =
3755strive for a cessation to samsara...</FONT>
3756<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but samsara and nirvana are one and the same.</FONT>
3757</P>
3758
3759<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>me? i worship myself, and even that god i can't trust =
3760all the time either....</FONT>
3761<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but at least my god doesn;t tell me no sex til =
3762marriage</FONT>
3763<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>or that meat is murder =
3764(puhhhhhleeeez)</FONT>
3765</P>
3766
3767<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> CHEESE IS EVIL. ;-) </FONT>
3768</P>
3769
3770<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
3771<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Eric B [<A =
3772HREF=3D"mailto:ericb333@hotmail.com">mailto:ericb333@hotmail.com</A>]</F=
3773ONT>
3774<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 5:04 PM</FONT>
3775</P>
3776<BR>
3777
3778<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I will make a resolution today to improve my =
3779life. I will learn</FONT>
3780<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>people's names. I will be more =
3781disciplined. I will care about other</FONT>
3782<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>people. I won't think negative thoughts. =
3783I won't have bad</FONT>
3784<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>fantasies. I won't want things. I will =
3785be good.</FONT>
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3796From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 22 20:53:47 2000
3797MIME-Version: 1.0
3798From: "Talaitha DerDraigen" <talaitha@dynamine.net>
3799To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
3800Subject: Re: [SFG] cheese
3801Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 17:22:53 -0800
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3817
3818
3819man...where are you finding this stuff?
3820
3821i've never seen someone who so blatantly screamed 'monologues give me
3822hard-ons!'
3823seriously, you post these long, usually non-sensical posts, then don't
3824participate in the discussion.
3825
3826~yen, who wonders how you can even type with them handfuls of cheese
3827crackers.
3828
3829~**~*~»§«:*´`³¤³´`*:»§«~*~**~
3830 <talaitha@dynamine.net>
3831 glitter~goth~grl~thing
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3835
3836----- Original Message -----
3837From: Eric B <ericb333@hotmail.com>
3838
3839> I was thinking the other day about how much I like to eat cheddar
3840> cheese crackers. It's a passion for me. I could eat them for hours.
3841> And I'll take a handful and think, "This is the last one." But then
3842> I'll just take another handful. Then I'll think, "Now I'm going to
3843> put the box away." And then I'll eat another handful just before I
3844> close up the cardboard top. And I usually have to exert tremendous
3845> willpower just to put the box back on the shelf. I wonder if I didn't
3846> make an effort to stop eating them, if I ever would? What if I just
3847> let go and ate until I didn't want any more? Just be myself.
3848>
3849> They must be fattening. I would get enormous like those overweight
3850> people in shopping malls who waddle around smoking cigarettes. But
3851> that wouldn't be so bad. Then I wouldn't have to think so much. I
3852> would just think, "I am fat, I wish I weren't fat anymore."
3853>
3854> But I think like that anyway. I want to improve in many ways. I
3855> should go to therapy so I can become a better person. Life should be
3856> a continuing effort toward self-improvement. If you don't improve
3857> your life, why be alive? Then everything would be the same as it was
3858> before, so you would already know it. That would be pointless, so you
3859> have to improve.
3860>
3861> I will make a resolution today to improve my life. I will learn
3862> people's names. I will be more disciplined. I will care about other
3863> people. I won't think negative thoughts. I won't have bad
3864> fantasies. I won't want things. I will be good.
3865
3866
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3874From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
3875Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:12:30 -0800
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3892
3893---- Begin Original Message ----
3894 From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
3895
3896I will make a resolution today to improve my life. I will learn
3897people's names. I will be more disciplined. I will care about other
3898people. I won't think negative thoughts. I won't have bad
3899fantasies. I won't want things. I will be good.
3900
3901---- End Original Message ----
3902
3903
3904hey man! Here's an idea! Be at the next avaliable club or event and introduce yourself and meet us and prove that you are a real person or other living being. I will give you a cookie. Improve your life!!!
3905
3906Katy
3907
3908____________________________________________________________
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3918From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 23 13:16:24 2000
3919MIME-Version: 1.0
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3921Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 10:09:02 -0800
3922To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
3923From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
3924Subject: Re: [SFG] cheese
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3937
3938At 05:04 PM 3/22/00 -0800, you wrote:
3939>
3940>
3941>I will make a resolution today to improve my life. I will learn
3942>people's names. I will be more disciplined. I will care about other
3943>people. I won't think negative thoughts. I won't have bad
3944>fantasies. I won't want things. I will be good.
3945>
3946
3947
3948How about
3949
3950I will reveal my true identity
3951I will stop poking the hive under a false name
3952I will shut the fuck up and get a life?
3953
3954Bella, bitch du jour, on 1 hour of sleep
3955PS. Dar Khan said to say g'bye to all and that that he really enjoyed his
3956last (for awhile) EBD
3957---------------------------------------
3958*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
3959--------------------------------------
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3965From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 23 23:06:41 2000
3966X-Originating-IP: [209.239.209.169]
3967From: "Sam hain" <Mitsutotsuba@hotmail.com>
3968To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
3969Subject: Re: [SFG] cheese
3970Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 20:00:19 -0800
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3984
3985
3986----- Original Message -----
3987From: the cute monster <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
3988To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
3989Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2000 12:12 AM
3990Subject: Re: [SFG] cheese
3991
3992
3993
3994
3995---- Begin Original Message ----
3996 From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
3997
3998I will make a resolution today to improve my life. I will learn
3999people's names. I will be more disciplined. I will care about other
4000people. I won't think negative thoughts. I won't have bad
4001fantasies. I won't want things. I will be good.
4002
4003---- End Original Message ----
4004
4005
4006hey man! Here's an idea! Be at the next avaliable club or event and
4007introduce yourself and meet us and prove that you are a real person or other
4008living being. I will give you a cookie. Improve your life!!!
4009
4010Katy
4011
4012____________________________________________________________
4013 I actually want to meet Eric too.
4014sometimes i frighten even myself
4015dark
4016and getting darker all the time...
4017We live in Tromaville. Where do YOU live?
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4029From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 24 17:24:15 2000
4030MIME-Version: 1.0
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4032Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 14:24:47 -0800
4033To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4034From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
4035Subject: Re: [SFG] eric
4036In-Reply-To: <20000324221252.72737.qmail@hotmail.com>
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4048
4049At 02:12 PM 3/24/00 -0800, you wrote:
4050>
4051>E.R.I.C.: Electronic Robotic Infiltration Construct
4052>______________________________________________________
4053
4054
4055Can you say Irony?
4056
4057
4058Bella
4059---------------------------------------
4060*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
4061--------------------------------------
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4067From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 24 21:39:02 2000
4068X-Originating-IP: [209.239.209.169]
4069From: "Sam hain" <Mitsutotsuba@hotmail.com>
4070To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
4071Subject: Re: [SFG] eric
4072Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 18:36:43 -0800
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4085
4086
4087
4088> E.R.I.C.: Electronic Robotic Infiltration Construct
4089>
4090all i wanna know is
4091is it fully functional?
4092
4093~samhain
4094this is not a one liner
4095
4096
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4101
4102From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sat Mar 25 03:47:27 2000
4103MIME-Version: 1.0
4104X-Originating-IP: [216.174.196.23]
4105From: "Katzen Kaiser" <katzenkaiser@hotmail.com>
4106To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4107Subject: Re: [SFG] Stupid people - was.. Two more pedestrians killed
4108Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 08:38:24 GMT
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4119
4120
4121
4122
4123 Hmmmm... It's really late, I can't remember exactly what I was going to
4124say. Something about stupid people and driving, no doubt. Maybe, um... Hey,
4125it's a new day! Can you believe it, I got in an argument with a friend of
4126mine, and now she won't take me to the city with her... and some of my other
4127friends are going... leaving me here alone. But I'm not stupid enough to try
4128and walk. No, no, no! They're stupid enough to drive, though. Which makes me
4129feel good... Knowing that, since I am not going anywhere, I'm sitting
4130still... therefore, neither walking nor driving. So I'm not stupid. But,
4131however, I am a loser... An intelligent loser... Which is better? At least I
4132have Clan of Xymox to keep me company. I guess I could watch TV... Great.
4133Son Of Sam was a really bad movie... so was Stigmata. I saw them both for
4134the first time last night. Needless to say, I don't know how either of them
4135end. Heh. I'm sorry if you don't like my email, it's probably boring you. I
4136hope not. I'd really hate to bore you, any of you. Bye!
4137
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4146From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sat Mar 25 05:15:07 2000
4147MIME-Version: 1.0
4148X-Originating-IP: [216.174.196.23]
4149From: "Katzen Kaiser" <katzenkaiser@hotmail.com>
4150To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4151Subject: Re: [SFG] summer of sam
4152Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 10:11:04 GMT
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4164
4165
4166
4167Yeah, summer of sam. The movie was so bad I couldn't remember the title. Or
4168maybe I'm suffering the memory loss side effect of the Sertraline. Heh. I
4169didn't leave the house today. I just sat around eating donuts. The donuts
4170were gross, but I was hungry, and I wanted a donut. So I ate them. After a
4171while, eating the donuts didn't seem so bad. I had grown to enjoy the taste.
4172They were old, these donuts. and the white powder wreaked havoc on my
4173clothes... which were black. I hate being so cliche. But it makes for good
4174stories. Anyways... I ate the donuts. despite the taste. My craving was
4175satisfied. But I would lose in the long run... after consuming so many
4176donuts, I got a stomach ache. I read Basilica today. It's a good book. It's
4177funny. Next I read The Drowning people. Sounds good. about an old man that
4178killed his wife, although no one ever suspected him, so he got away, only to
4179confess years later. I hope to get out today. For a small amount of time.
4180I'm feeling rather lonely here at 2:04Am, writing email to a mail list thing
4181that most likely doesn't care. This is news though. A human interest story.
4182You know? Of course you do. You'll learn to love me. Yes you will. Everyone
4183does. Sooner or Later.
4184
4185
4186
4187
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4196From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Mar 26 16:46:05 2000
4197MIME-Version: 1.0
4198X-Originating-IP: [216.174.196.23]
4199From: "Katzen Kaiser" <katzenkaiser@hotmail.com>
4200To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4201Subject: Re: [SFG] music
4202Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 21:36:14 GMT
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4213
4214
4215
4216
4217 Why does it make you happy to know others are happy? Knowing everyone
4218else is happy just makes me sad that I'm not enjoying things as much as the
4219next person. So, someone somewhere that has it all really doesn't make me
4220feel too hot about myself, knowing that I really don't have anywhere near
4221what that person does. You know? If I lived in a box with a radio... I'd be
4222pissed because I wouldn't have anywhere to plug it in.
4223
4224
4225 Love always, KatzenKaiser.
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4234From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 29 12:54:15 2000
4235MIME-Version: 1.0
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4237Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 09:52:08 -0800
4238To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4239From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
4240Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
4241In-Reply-To: <20000329083523.67286.qmail@hotmail.com>
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4253
4254At 03:35 AM 3/29/00 -0500, you wrote:
4255>
4256>Sometimes I will wake up in the morning and I will remember a dream I
4257>had where I went to a place I remember from long ago. A field with
4258>small hills and some large old trees. And after I wake up, I really
4259>miss the place. I feel sad that I haven't gone there for a long
4260>time. I think, "When I used to go there, things were easier for me."
4261>But when I try to remember exactly when I went to the place, I can't.
4262>I'm no sure I ever went there, but I miss it so much.
4263>______________________________________________________
4264
4265
4266Wow, what do you know? I used to go there too!
4267
4268Only I kept a map <G> if I show you the map will you promise to go and
4269leave your computer and worries behind?
4270
4271Hey, I bet you could live out there permanently, live in a treehouse and
4272eat nuts and berries. It would be good for you!
4273
4274
4275Bella
4276---------------------------------------
4277*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
4278--------------------------------------
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4284From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 29 13:36:54 2000
4285MIME-Version: 1.0
4286X-Originating-IP: [216.174.196.23]
4287From: "Katzen Kaiser" <katzenkaiser@hotmail.com>
4288To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4289Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
4290Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 18:23:00 GMT
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4301
4302
4303
4304
4305
4306
4307 Hills and trees? Wow. Not many places match that description. I'll keep
4308my eyes open.
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4317From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 29 21:30:53 2000
4318MIME-Version: 1.0
4319Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:30:03 -0700
4320From: alicia scott <antipathy@earthlink.net>
4321To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4322Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
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4333
4334
4335Sometimes I dream that at least half of the posts on the sfglj mailing
4336list won't consist of babbling self-absorbed idiots pontificating their
4337own navels (or blue tongues).
4338But then I wake up and realize that my dreams are incredibly unrealistic
4339and that the maturity level of the average junkies subscriber currently
4340resembles something akin to a vampyre chat room on AOL. Do carry on.
4341
4342-Alicia
4343
4344Eric B wrote:
4345>
4346> Sometimes I will wake up in the morning and I will remember a dream I
4347> had where I went to a place I remember from long ago. A field with
4348> small hills and some large old trees. And after I wake up, I really
4349> miss the place. I feel sad that I haven't gone there for a long
4350> time. I think, "When I used to go there, things were easier for me."
4351> But when I try to remember exactly when I went to the place, I can't.
4352> I'm no sure I ever went there, but I miss it so much.
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4358From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Mar 29 22:06:43 2000
4359MIME-Version: 1.0
4360X-Originating-IP: [132.189.76.130]
4361From: "flyallnight zoe" <flyallnight2@hotmail.com>
4362To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4363Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
4364Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 02:44:45 GMT
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4375
4376
4377
4378
4379alicia scott snipped:
4380
4381
4382>
4383>
4384>Sometimes I dream that **** at least half of the posts** on the sfglj
4385>mailing
4386>list won't consist of **** babbling self-absorbed idiots pontificating***
4387>their
4388>own navels (or blue tongues).
4389>But then I wake up and realize that my dreams are incredibly unrealistic
4390>and that the maturity level of the ** average *** junkies subscriber
4391>currently
4392>resembles something akin to a vampyre chat room on AOL. Do carry on.
4393
4394
4395gee. I can't decide if I should say:
4396
43971) Eric B. represents our average?
4398
43992) wow. you are such a bad ass. Do you hang out at Rodericks?
4400
44013) DO NOT FEED THE TROLL
4402
4403-Zoe, golly gosh. I have never seen the vampyre chat room on AOL. That
4404must be why I don't care for this post.
4405
4406
4407
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4416From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 30 01:41:39 2000
4417MIME-Version: 1.0
4418From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
4419Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 22:36:05 -0800
4420X-Priority: Normal
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4422To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4423Subject: [SFG] The nature of the list?? Was: dream
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4436Ok now, everyone raise your hand if you are not at least one of the following: babbling, self-absorbed, an idiot, doing weird colorful things with navels and tounges. I can't imagine that there are many hands raised. So we're a bunch of kooks bored at work or at school or wherever. If you don't like it then why are YOU here, Aliciapoo?? We are having fun, well at least I am. And I have no idea what the vampyre chat room at AOL is like, but if it is spelled "vampyre" I have to wonder. I can't imagine that many of the people here think they are "vampyres", and I would even go so far as to say that most of the people here would say "Yay! I'm NOT dead!"
4437What was that thing that the sfgoth shirt thing said? Something about if you are here you must be mad too!
4438HA!
4439
4440Katy, babbling, self-absorbed, an idiot, and once had a blue tongue (it was from hair dye of course! I have pictures to prove it)
4441
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4444 From: alicia scott <antipathy@earthlink.net>
4445Sent: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:30:03 -0700
4446To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4447Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
4448
4449
4450Sometimes I dream that at least half of the posts on the sfglj mailing
4451list won't consist of babbling self-absorbed idiots pontificating their
4452own navels (or blue tongues).
4453But then I wake up and realize that my dreams are incredibly unrealistic
4454and that the maturity level of the average junkies subscriber currently
4455resembles something akin to a vampyre chat room on AOL. Do carry on.
4456
4457-Alicia
4458
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4472From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Mar 30 06:27:47 2000
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4474From: Jordanna6@aol.com
4475Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 05:38:23 EST
4476Subject: [SFG] My tongue is blue!
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4490
4491In a message dated 3/29/00 10:38:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, alicia scott
4492<antipathy@earthlink.net> writes:
4493
4494> consist of babbling self-absorbed idiots pontificating their
4495> own navels (or blue tongues).
4496
4497I sometimes tell myself that the list has tripled in size since then... I
4498mean, people must have forgotten by now... Or at least there are just so
4499many more of us that the ones who remember are few and far between.
4500
4501I am apparently so wrong.
4502
4503And whenever I see someone make reference, I am torn between owning what I
4504considered to be a marvelous moment in my life (i.e., discovery the wonders
4505of the 7-11 Slurpee), and hiding in the space between my desk and the floor.
4506
4507Now, I am certain that my last post regarding the matter did not, in fact,
4508involve pontification. I do care enough about you folks, and of course you,
4509Alicia, that I shall do so now to ensure that your words have not been wasted.
4510
4511Because I have been reading way too much SARK these days (yay SARK for
4512helping us Darlings with this life thing), I have decided to not only own it,
4513but to finally thank you all for encouraging me to have my first Slurpee, and
4514for being an audience to what was for me, a moment of pure Blue-Tongued-Joy.
4515Not only did the Slurpee live up to its promise of sugary, icey goodness, it
4516came with a really cool straw and, of course, a blue tongue.
4517
4518I have had only one Slurpee since that day, as I have been in constant fear
4519that after consuming the delicious treat I may, without warning, be forced to
4520tell you all the color of my tongue.
4521
4522After reading Eric's posts, I am not sure that my fear is warranted, as the
4523color of my tongue is arguably more interesting than most of what he has to
4524say...
4525
4526In any event, I am releasing my fear to the Universal Consciousness...
4527Consequently, I will be making it over to 7-11 to once again delight in the
4528unique creature that is The Slurpee. I will do my best to not post about it.
4529 I urge you to do the same.
4530
4531Yours ever,
4532Romi -- self-absorbed human (who will now contemplate her navel, and be sure
4533to babble on about it any minute now, if it suits her)
4534
4535
4536PS When's Gothnic dammit?
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4542From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 31 02:36:05 2000
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4545From: "Dave Haaz-baroque" <shadowcircus@hotmail.com>
4546To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4547Subject: [SFG] only psuedo-relevant psycho-babble
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4560
4561
4562
4563 Tomorrow i officialy move back to San Francisco. I have been gone for
4564fifteen months, having moved to Hollywood for reasons i don't even remember
4565anymore.
4566 I am writing this from my mother's house in Modesto where i am
4567visiting. Behind me, covered in a plastic tarp is the six boxes that
4568constitute everything i own. In Hollywood i had a decent sized abode. I have
4569left that behind now, for a residential hotel in the tenderloin. Most of my
4570things will be left with my mother. I will take some clothes, a few of my
4571favourite puppets to show off at the clubs and that is all. I will not have
4572room for much more. Even my cat i am sending away for later.
4573 I return to San francisco with much of my future clear. I'm a
4574puppeteer. Not a children's puppeteer. I have puppets that get drunk and
4575start fights on stage - that do drugs and invent religions. In LA, nobody
4576would book me. I don't think ANYWHERE would be very enthusiastic about what
4577i do.
4578 Except at home. I will go home. I will probably always live in dingy
4579places in the worst parts of San Francisco. The only fame i will ever lay
4580claim to is the small group of Haight street wingnuts that really get what i
4581do (coz i'm one, too). Maybe... (probably) if i tried really hard i could
4582have stayed in Hollywood and puppeteered for Disney. Maybe been a character
4583on 'The Bear in the Blue House' and pulled myself out of poverty. I probably
4584could of, if i'd have dyed my hair a normal colour and stopped making my
4585puppets swear like truck drivers. I knew a few people (in Hollywood, who
4586doesn't? Ha Ha.)
4587I could have pulled together a comfortable life.
4588 But i'm not doing so. I don't think a lot of people in LA understood
4589why. I'm gonna go back to SF and be an SF crazy again. I'm gonna live in
4590poverty and minimalism and always dodge the radar of real success.
4591 I'm NEVER gonna own a damn car.
4592 Dear Gods! Is it possible for any person to be happier with life?
4593
4594 On a more linear note, i don't know WHEN i'll have a phone line again.
4595I know i wasn't on the list very long and didn't post very much, but, for
4596awhile i'll be posting even less. I will rely on the few of you i do know
4597personally to keep me up to speed. As for the rest of you, say hi when i get
4598home. I have Tigger-striped hair and lots o' mardi gras beads and probably
4599at least one puppet on me at any given time... and i am MUCH less dramatic
4600than this post would suggest. Sorry for anyone who is rolling their eyes at
4601what is probably going to be construed as an 'eric B moment.' It's just that
4602i'm VERY happy to be going home again, and wanted to share that.
4603
4604 And if i ever see another fuckin' palm tree, i'll scream...
4605
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4632
4633ericb333@hotmail.com writes:
4634
4635I saw a man on the street today who had a sign that said: I'M HUNGRY,
4636PLEASE HELP ME. So I bought him a sandwich at the store and sat with
4637him and talked.
4638
4639Although his breath was pretty bad, he was nice. But after he ate the
4640sandwich he told me to go away. He said he was a drug addict and had
4641to get drugs now.
4642
4643I asked him if he would be there tomorrow so we could talk some more,
4644but he said, "No, I won't be here."
4645
4646I gave him a dollar to buy drugs with.
4647
4648Ok Eric I understand that you are probably a caring person and there is
4649nothing wrong with that, but what type of wisdom do you think this man would
4650have. There are more obvious places to go searching for answers to lifes
4651questions ( this is assuming you do not want to be a homeless drug addict )
4652As I said before I would imagine you are a caring person, so I understand the
4653sandwich, but why help a drug addict get drugs, that is hardly helpful to the
4654situation. I know he is going to get more drugs, where you just trying to
4655ease the suffering of this man ?
4656
4657As the typical insensitive person myself, it is far from me to understand the
4658reasoning of helping homeless people, I am part of the nasty majority that
4659just wish they went away. I know that does not make me a " good person" oh
4660well, at least it is honest. I have seen to many homeless people approach
4661women, and intimidate them for money. " give me a dollar, as they block the
4662path at the BART station" They don't bug me, but given my size that is not
4663much of a surprise. They are aggresive "GIVE ME A DOLLAR" if they can get
4664away with it, and they are submissive when it serves them. A couple of
4665friends and I all went out to dinner, a few years ago and as we entered the
4666restaraunt, we where approached by a bum, who asked for money. We all passed
4667him, and went inside to eat. A few minutes this homeless man, and his
4668colleages where seen, throwing a rock through the window of my friends car.
4669So after we got done kicking the crap out of them, my friend said "OK now
4670what" its not like these people have any money to pay for this. These
4671assholes, think that just because they have it so bad (boo hoo) that we
4672should all feel sorry for them, and give them our money.
4673
4674I do find these human parasites helpful sometimes when I am lost in the city,
4675but I would gladly get one of those little laminated maps, if this place was
4676not littered with them.
4677
4678I hope you do find some speck of wisdom from your new charity case Eric, I
4679truly do, it will probably be the first helpful thing this guy has done in
4680years.
4681
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4688From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 31 10:21:45 2000
4689MIME-Version: 1.0
4690From: "James R Huie" <jhuie@home.com>
4691To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
4692Subject: Re: [SFG] help
4693Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 07:15:55 -0800
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4708
4709
4710Thats because your a fucking idiot..."why, wouldnt the world be a better
4711place if we happily supported all the folks who wont get up and do for
4712themselves???"
4713
4714"A bus station is where a bus stops.
4715A train station is where a train stops.
4716On my desk I have a workstation...."
4717ArKhaine of the Ebon Flame
4718----- Original Message -----
4719From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
4720To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
4721Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:52 AM
4722Subject: [SFG] help
4723
4724
4725>
4726> I saw a man on the street today who had a sign that said: I'M HUNGRY,
4727> PLEASE HELP ME. So I bought him a sandwich at the store and sat with
4728> him and talked.
4729>
4730> Although his breath was pretty bad, he was nice. But after he ate the
4731> sandwich he told me to go away. He said he was a drug addict and had
4732> to get drugs now.
4733>
4734> I asked him if he would be there tomorrow so we could talk some more,
4735> but he said, "No, I won't be here."
4736>
4737> I gave him a dollar to buy drugs with.
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4772
4773At 03:52 AM 3/31/00 -0500, you wrote:
4774>
4775>I saw a man on the street today who had a sign that said: I'M HUNGRY,
4776>PLEASE HELP ME. So I bought him a sandwich at the store and sat with
4777>him and talked.
4778>
4779>Although his breath was pretty bad, he was nice. But after he ate the
4780>sandwich he told me to go away. He said he was a drug addict and had
4781>to get drugs now.
4782>
4783>I asked him if he would be there tomorrow so we could talk some more,
4784>but he said, "No, I won't be here."
4785>
4786>I gave him a dollar to buy drugs with.
4787>______________________________________________________
4788>
4789
4790If I give you a dollar will you go away?
4791
4792Sheesh
4793
4794Bella, not even going to joke about giving him a dollar for drugs, he
4795doesnt seem to need any !
4796---------------------------------------
4797*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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4804From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Mar 31 13:15:17 2000
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4806Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 10:05:49 -0800 (PST)
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4823
4824On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Eric B wrote:
4825
4826> I gave him a dollar to buy drugs with.
4827
4828i'll give you a dollar if you unsubscribe from this list.
4829
4830
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4845Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
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4858
4859----Original Message Follows----
4860From: alicia scott <antipathy@earthlink.net>
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4862To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
4863Subject: Re: [SFG] dream
4864Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 19:30:03 -0700
4865
4866"...But then I wake up and realize that my dreams are incredibly unrealistic
4867and that the maturity level of the average junkies subscriber currently
4868resembles something akin to a vampyre chat room on AOL..."
4869
4870What 700 years old and living in the family basement...
4871or, 25 years old with delusions of superior motives and higher intelligence
4872blah, blah, blah...
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4887Subject: Re: [SFG] help
4888Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 05:03:23 -0800
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4904
4905Eric B,
4906
4907Haven't you been paying attention?
4908Reread one of my earlier posts.
4909You do need some help.
4910Get calloused.
4911come out to play.
4912ONLY GIVE THEM MONEY IF THEY ARE CUTE!
4913
4914Tonight one of the street walkers poked me with a sharp impliment as he
4915stood right behind me rather than saying excuse me. Wasn't sharp enough to
4916grab my attention more than looking to see whose in need of a reality check
4917on human behavior. As he probably thought I was blocking *his* sidewalk.
4918
4919I use to have all the answers now I just don't know.
4920
4921Answering phones with irritated individuals, consumed with idiocy, ideas and
4922notions other than reality, fueled with unecessary fear of medical advice.
4923
4924Today's winner went to:
4925its been two weeks waiting for a perscription. I could have died by now. I'm
492665 and I have a cough. (think all those times calling in sick to work with
4927fake coughs and listen to it from someone else. I have a worse cough than
4928her and mine doesn't go away.<not doing anything about it cause I just don't
4929care to.>)
4930
4931~Kim
4932there must be a job out there that wont make me loose my mind day in and day
4933out. like painting, drawing, reading, writing. Oh wait. I do these to keep a
4934bit more sane.
4935
4936p.s.
4937has anyone seen my cat.
4938I mean the priceless posession that gives me cat perch shoulders?
4939I'm going to cry now.
4940
4941p.s.s.
4942if you have any spare change....
4943give it to me. I need to save up for a motorcycle and posibly a new place to
4944live.
4945motorcycle most important! :>
4946
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4952From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 08:14:59 2000
4953MIME-Version: 1.0
4954From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
4955To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
4956Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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4975
4976Ok.. that's IT...
4977I KNOW one of you is Eric.. and you're just trolling along trying to see who
4978bites...
4979I have bets on either Brandon or Perki..
4980Not sure why I picked them..but they seem like the likely culprits..
4981>From now on I am disbelieving in Eric B and the wondrous posts of
4982nothingness.
4983
4984
4985
4986Or maybe they are just working out the bugs on a new AI and its 1st test is
4987inane babbling to our list.,...
4988No wait.. Berni fills that one already..
4989
4990
4991
4992
4993"they.. you know.. them.. "
4994
4995Tzeentch
4996The Changer of Ways
4997Tzeentch@home.com
4998
4999-----Original Message-----
5000From: owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com [mailto:owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com] On Behalf Of
5001Eric B
5002Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:56 AM
5003To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5004Subject: [SFG] famous
5005
5006
5007I was walking along today and suddenly I realized that famous people
5008probably have the same problems as everybody else, they probably don't
5009have as good a time as they want everyone to believe. And a lot of
5010poor people have a great time. But it's got to be better to have some
5011money. Depending on what you have to do to get the money in the first
5012place.
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5026From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 09:03:03 2000
5027MIME-Version: 1.0
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5029Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 05:57:59 -0700
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5045
5046I was reading my email today and decided AGAINST posting directionless (not to
5047mention obvious) "revelations" and other inanity to a list of 300 people. And
5048now, a blanket generalization with nothing to back it up:
5049
5050NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU. EITHER POST SOMETHING RELEVENT OR DON'T POST AT ALL.
5051
5052 A listee who will remain anonymous suggested to me that Eric B. is here
5053entirely to piss me off. That may be the case, and mayhap I shouldn't feed the
5054troll, but I'm kinda irritable and feel like flaming somebody. But the
5055important thing is that I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the
5056time.
5057
5058Eric B wrote:
5059
5060> I was walking along today and suddenly I realized that famous people
5061> probably have the same problems as everybody else, they probably don't
5062> have as good a time as they want everyone to believe. And a lot of
5063> poor people have a great time. But it's got to be better to have some
5064> money. Depending on what you have to do to get the money in the first
5065> place.
5066
5067--
5068"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
5069Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
5070 -Industrial 101
5071
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5078From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 14:45:59 2000
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5081Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
5082From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
5083To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5084Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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5097
5098On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Tzeentch wrote:
5099
5100>
5101> Ok.. that's IT...
5102> I KNOW one of you is Eric.. and you're just trolling along trying to see who
5103> bites...
5104> I have bets on either Brandon or Perki..
5105
5106 I'm going to say this one more time:
5107
5108 I have no desire or need to create a false identity with
5109 which to cause problems. I'm perfectly willing to do it
5110 by myself and with my own name - I've worked pretty hard
5111 to have a reputation as someone who doesn't do things that
5112 he won't take credit or blame from.
5113
5114 Also, Eric B has a hotmail account, and anyone who knows
5115 me also knows that hotmail and microsoft are an anathema
5116 to me.
5117
5118
5119 So there.
5120
5121
5122
5123
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5133From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 15:59:38 2000
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5136Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:54:48 -0700 (PDT)
5137From: Josh Bailey <joshbailey@lucent.com>
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5139To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5140Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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5153
5154On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Brandon Harris wrote:
5155
5156> Also, Eric B has a hotmail account, and anyone who knows
5157> me also knows that hotmail and microsoft are an anathema
5158> to me.
5159
5160...and what better way to divert the finger of suspicion?
5161
5162Note: this message has a smiley in it. :-)
5163
5164--
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5172From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 16:02:14 2000
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5175Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
5176From: Josh Bailey <joshbailey@lucent.com>
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5178To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5179Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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5192
5193On Sun, 2 Apr 2000, Tzeentch wrote:
5194
5195> No wait.. Berni fills that one already..
5196
5197A friend of mine, whose name also is Josh, once wrote a Eliza-style
5198parody of a mutual acquaintance that lurked FidoNet for a while.
5199
5200It was called Robo-Julie; it would pick various posts (seemingly at
5201random, though in reality just those with particular regexps), and reply
5202with things like, "Hi Hon! I'm blonde, Hon! Where's my pencil, Hon?"
5203
5204The real Julie promptly left FidoNet and went back to the Realm of
5205Searchlight. We declared Frank La Rosa and his ANSI flashing signature
5206enabled SLNET were welcome to her.
5207
5208--
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5216From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 16:21:29 2000
5217Subject: Re: [SFG] help
5218To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5219Date: Sun, 2 Apr 100 13:17:33 -0700 (PDT)
5220From: Grey Wolf <greymage@armory.com>
5221In-Reply-To: <13.349d97b.26161760@aol.com> from "GarmRia@aol.com" at Mar 31, 0 09:59:44 am
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5232
5233
5234GarmRia@aol.com writes
5235>
5236> ericb333@hotmail.com writes:
5237>
5238>> I saw a man on the street today who had a sign that said: I'M HUNGRY,
5239>> PLEASE HELP ME. So I bought him a sandwich at the store and sat with
5240>> him and talked.
5241>
5242>> Although his breath was pretty bad, he was nice. But after he ate the
5243>> sandwich he told me to go away. He said he was a drug addict and had
5244>> to get drugs now.
5245>
5246>> I gave him a dollar to buy drugs with.
5247
5248OK part of me is like "why not start a new movement: Drugs Not Bombs
5249and give away free drugs to losers? You could mix up 55gallon drums of
5250crystal meth or whatever right at curbside. :-)
5251
5252But then some people are really committed to their lifestyle, and I've
5253seen people ask for things so clearly that you empathize with them and
5254want to help them get what they want. Okay.
5255
5256
5257> As the typical insensitive person myself, it is far from me to understand the
5258> reasoning of helping homeless people, I am part of the nasty majority that
5259> just wish they went away. I know that does not make me a " good person" oh
5260> well, at least it is honest.
5261
5262I make a distinction between "homeless people" and "panhandlers".
5263Homeless people are simply unhomed. They're men, couples, families,
5264tribes, even single women, every imaginable race, and they leave "us"
5265alone.
5266
5267Panhandlers are almost always single men, foul smelling and indignant.
5268They want to rub in our faces what society has "done to them", to reinforce
5269their attitudes about themselves and the world, and to get that tiny
5270"jones" of human recognition... that's why some will follow you 100 feet
5271and make an emotional drama play about asking for a single penny.
5272
5273(the exception is the kids on Haight Street who seem to be pretty happy,
5274a lot of them do activism like Earth First and the WTO, and anyone
5275who'll take pepper spray in the face to save our world is OK with me.)
5276
5277So there's a confusion between homeless people and panhandlers, and
5278panhandlers exploit that to lay their trip on, and to make people say
5279things like "I know it doesn't make you a good person" [to help them].
5280Au contraire, it means you can see their toxic energy for what it is,
5281and you get that giving them a quarter won't help them. And that means
5282you have the clarity to not waste your charity, and that means you have
5283it left over for people who want to be helped.
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5289From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 19:06:50 2000
5290MIME-Version: 1.0
5291X-Originating-IP: [38.28.75.83]
5292From: "Fernando Orozco" <fsoii@hotmail.com>
5293To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5294Subject: Re: [SFG] famous
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5307
5308
5309>
5310>I was walking along today and suddenly I realized that famous people
5311>probably have the same problems as everybody else, they probably don't
5312>have as good a time as they want everyone to believe. And a lot of
5313>poor people have a great time. But it's got to be better to have some
5314>money. Depending on what you have to do to get the money in the first
5315>place.
5316
5317Having worked around alot of famous people, I would have to say, in most
5318cases, being famous is quite a burden to bear, unless you are the right
5319personality type to deal with it. When I met Siouxsie, I thought she was a
5320total bitch, but then I sat back and thought about how hard it must have
5321been to be inandated with rabid fans for the last 20 years. Better to be
5322rich and annonymous. Go work for a .com with stock options.
5323
5324~Fernando~
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5333From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 2 19:34:27 2000
5334MIME-Version: 1.0
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5336From: "GAF Dncing" <gafdncing@hotmail.com>
5337To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5338Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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5351
5352>From Eric G:
5353
5354NOBODY HERE LIKES YOU. EITHER POST SOMETHING RELEVENT OR DON'T POST AT ALL.
5355
5356>From Tseentch:
5357
5358Ok.. that's IT...I KNOW one of you is Eric.. and you're just trolling along
5359trying to see who bites...
5360
5361>From GAF:
5362
5363Well, Eric B, you certainly have everyone talking and interested. Much more
5364than the usually sh^^^^^t. I love it! Keep up the good work. Hope to see
5365you and all the reactions again, same bat channel, same bat time.
5366
5367Dancing
5368 Laughing all the way to the cave.
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5377From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 3 01:12:16 2000
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5379From: Ross <ross@roundpeg.com>
5380To: "'sfglj@sfgoth.com'" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
5381Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
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5402
5403>>been to be inandated with rabid fans for the last 20 years. Better to be
5404>>rich and annonymous. Go work for a .com with stock options.
5405>>~Fernando~
5406
5407Being one who works for a .com with stock options (and somewhat anonymous),
5408I can safely say that I will never have tons of adoring fans clawing over
5409one another to get me into their beds... ;-)
5410 not that after a few months of meaningless sex with beautiful women, i
5411wouldn't get bored of it.. you know...
5412 the parties, the photoshoots, not worrying about reservations...
5413;-P
5414yeah...right...
5415how the fuck can Morrissey be so depressed? it must be so tough being rich
5416and having girls throw their panties at you.
5417
5418*giggle* ok, i guess all the really plastic people who live off you like
5419leeches would play out in all of about 5 secs, the
5420fat-lazy-eeeeveeell-whore-mongers (music exceutives) who pay your wage would
5421make me homicidal, and knowing that
5422finding a person of substance to have an intelligent conversation with would
5423be few and far between...
5424
5425ok...point taken fernando...
5426i still wouldn't mind having groupies though... ;-P
5427-=-=-Ross
5428
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5445
5446<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>been to be inandated with rabid fans for the =
5447last 20 years. Better to be </FONT>
5448<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>rich and annonymous. Go work for a .com with =
5449stock options.</FONT>
5450<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>~Fernando~</FONT>
5451</P>
5452
5453<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Being one who works for a .com with stock options =
5454(and somewhat anonymous), I can safely say that I will never have tons =
5455of adoring fans clawing over one another to get me into their beds... =
5456;-)</FONT></P>
5457
5458<P><FONT SIZE=3D2> not that after a few months of meaningless sex =
5459with beautiful women, i wouldn't get bored of it.. you know...</FONT>
5460<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> the =
5461parties, the photoshoots, not worrying about reservations... =
5462;-P</FONT>
5463<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>yeah...right... </FONT>
5464<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>how the fuck can Morrissey be so depressed? it must =
5465be so tough being rich and having girls throw their panties at =
5466you.</FONT>
5467</P>
5468
5469<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>*giggle* ok, i guess all the really plastic people =
5470who live off you like leeches would play out in all of about 5 secs, =
5471the fat-lazy-eeeeveeell-whore-mongers (music exceutives) who pay your =
5472wage would make me homicidal, and knowing that </FONT></P>
5473
5474<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>finding a person of substance to have an intelligent =
5475conversation with would be few and far between...</FONT>
5476</P>
5477
5478<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>ok...point taken fernando... </FONT>
5479<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>i still wouldn't mind having groupies though... =
5480;-P </FONT>
5481<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-=3D-=3D-Ross</FONT>
5482<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2> </FONT>
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5493From owner-ds9@chorn.com Mon Apr 3 16:29:38 2000
5494MIME-Version: 1.0
5495Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:29:37 -0500 (EST)
5496From: "Joel D. Arandia" <arandia@chorn.com>
5497To: ds9@kadath.com
5498Subject: Re: weekend update
5499In-Reply-To: <20000403161512.E29418@chorn.com>
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5504
5505If you have ever read the Bogosian novel, "Notes from the Underground",
5506it's quite funny. Bogosian is quite manipulative in a way that he gets you
5507to agree with him and then sucker punches you with something really
5508disturbing. It alternates between you intimately identifying with the hero
5509and then being totally appalled.
5510
5511it's funny seeing the list people going through the same rollercoaster.
5512
5513On Mon, 3 Apr 2000 chorn@chorn.com wrote:
5514
5515> On 2000/04/03 16:06:13 -0400, majcher@chorn.com wrote:
5516>
5517> > I don't remember if I posted this to the list yet, but you can watch
5518> > it as it progresses at http://www.majcher.com/underground/ - I'll
5519> > pretty it up in a while, but for now you can just read the responses...
5520>
5521> If you did, I think I missed it. I glanced through things a bit, but
5522> I don't quite get the point.
5523>
5524> As far as I can tell, there IS no point, it's just a bunch of lame
5525> threads. :)
5526>
5527
5528From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 3 18:58:06 2000
5529MIME-Version: 1.0
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5531From: "tis BeRnIe" <tis_bernie@hotmail.com>
5532To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5533Subject: RE: [SFG] famous
5534Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:46:56 GMT
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5546
5547I AM NOT ERIC!
5548
5549REALLY!
5550I'm NOT!
5551
5552Will you fucking believe me already!
5553
5554I even responded a post, why would I do that! I wouldn't ever dream of
5555throwing you off the trail! I mean... uhmmm... It's NOT ME!
5556
5557-Bernie
5558 ... Yes, it really is NOT me.
5559
5560>From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
5561
5562>Ok.. that's IT...
5563>I KNOW one of you is Eric.. and you're just trolling along trying to see
5564>who
5565>bites...
5566>I have bets on either Brandon or Perki..
5567>Not sure why I picked them..but they seem like the likely culprits..
5568>From now on I am disbelieving in Eric B and the wondrous posts of
5569>nothingness.
5570>
5571>
5572>
5573>Or maybe they are just working out the bugs on a new AI and its 1st test is
5574>inane babbling to our list.,...
5575>No wait.. Berni fills that one already..
5576>
5577>
5578>
5579>
5580>"they.. you know.. them.. "
5581>
5582>Tzeentch
5583>The Changer of Ways
5584>Tzeentch@home.com
5585>
5586>-----Original Message-----
5587>From: owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com [mailto:owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com] On Behalf Of
5588>Eric B
5589>Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 1:56 AM
5590>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5591>Subject: [SFG] famous
5592>
5593>
5594>I was walking along today and suddenly I realized that famous people
5595>probably have the same problems as everybody else, they probably don't
5596>have as good a time as they want everyone to believe. And a lot of
5597>poor people have a great time. But it's got to be better to have some
5598>money. Depending on what you have to do to get the money in the first
5599>place.
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5621From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 06:32:11 2000
5622MIME-Version: 1.0
5623From: Ross <ross@roundpeg.com>
5624To: "'sfglj@sfgoth.com'" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
5625Subject: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha... we know hi
5626 s name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one shot to blow him away!
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5648>>I AM NOT ERIC!
5649>>REALLY!
5650>>I'm NOT!
5651I know, for my small part in the parlance of the day, that I appreciate the
5652non-sequiturs and complete facile deameanor of the writing of Eric B.
5653i am a firm believer that true worth of living can only be seen with the
5654eyes of a child.
5655but, of couse,
5656i wouldn;t want the guy to date any of my sisters, and if he was a coworker,
5657i'm sure he'd be voted most likely to go postal.
5658and i hope the Prozac or shock therapy Eric is getting is helping him.....
5659
5660the innocence that his (or her, as it could be a woman) writing is meant to
5661convey does pull at me.
5662and, as much as i know that EricB is (from my analysis of the writing) not a
5663real persona, per se (there are too many indicators that tell me that EricB
5664is a figment of some listie's creativity), i hope to someday catch the
5665person who is writing them, as the controversy as to both his (or her, or
5666trannie's) identity and the source of his illusions has been a good topic of
5667conversation for an otherwise (usually interesting) but sometimes mundane
5668list.
5669
5670and no, i'm not EricB either. ;-P
5671-=-=Ross aka TheDarkSilk
5672
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5691
5692<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>I AM NOT ERIC!</FONT>
5693<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>REALLY!</FONT>
5694<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>>I'm NOT!</FONT>
5695<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I know, for my small part in the parlance of the =
5696day, that I appreciate the non-sequiturs and complete facile deameanor =
5697of the writing of Eric B. </FONT></P>
5698
5699<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>i am a firm believer that true worth of living can =
5700only be seen with the eyes of a child.</FONT>
5701<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>but, of couse, </FONT>
5702<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>i wouldn;t want the guy to date any of my sisters, =
5703and if he was a coworker, i'm sure he'd be voted most likely to go =
5704postal.</FONT></P>
5705
5706<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>and i hope the Prozac or shock therapy Eric is =
5707getting is helping him..... </FONT>
5708</P>
5709
5710<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>the innocence that his (or her, as it could be a =
5711woman) writing is meant to convey does pull at me.</FONT>
5712<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and, as much as i know that EricB is (from my =
5713analysis of the writing) not a real persona, per se (there are too many =
5714indicators that tell me that EricB is a figment of some listie's =
5715creativity), i hope to someday catch the person who is writing them, as =
5716the controversy as to both his (or her, or trannie's) identity and the =
5717source of his illusions has been a good topic of conversation for an =
5718otherwise (usually interesting) but sometimes mundane list.</FONT></P>
5719
5720<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>and no, i'm not EricB either. ;-P</FONT>
5721<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-=3D-=3DRoss aka TheDarkSilk</FONT>
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5732From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 12:49:30 2000
5733MIME-Version: 1.0
5734Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:36:50 -0700 (PDT)
5735From: Jonny Faw <jonnyfaw@yahoo.com>
5736Subject: Re: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha... we know hi s name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one shot to blow him away!
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5749
5750Why don't you just trace his e-mail address? You can
5751find out if the account is being used at the same
5752address as someone else on the list and then you'll
5753all know the truth......
5754
5755Jonny Faw
5756
5757--- Ross <ross@roundpeg.com> wrote:
5758> >>I AM NOT ERIC!
5759> >>REALLY!
5760> >>I'm NOT!
5761> I know, for my small part in the parlance of the
5762> day, that I appreciate the
5763> non-sequiturs and complete facile deameanor of the
5764> writing of Eric B.
5765> i am a firm believer that true worth of living can
5766> only be seen with the
5767> eyes of a child.
5768> but, of couse,
5769> i wouldn;t want the guy to date any of my sisters,
5770> and if he was a coworker,
5771> i'm sure he'd be voted most likely to go postal.
5772> and i hope the Prozac or shock therapy Eric is
5773> getting is helping him.....
5774>
5775
5776
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5790From: Nicole Delessert Shields <nshields@turing.csc.smith.edu>
5791To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5792Subject: Re: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha... we know his name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one shot to blow him away!
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5805
5806> At 03:23 AM 4/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
5807
5808> > i am a firm believer that true worth of living can only be seen with the
5809> eyes
5810> > of a child.
5811> >
5812> > the innocence that his (or her, as it could be a woman) writing is meant to
5813> > convey does pull at me.
5814
5815Kids, innocent? HA! Kids are cruel, cunning, devious creatures. Yes, they
5816are cute and loveable and have very nice qualities as well. But they are
5817NOT innocent.
5818
5819-Nicole
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5831From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
5832Subject: Re: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the
5833 Buddha... we know his name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one
5834 shot to blow him away!
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5853At 03:23 AM 4/4/00 -0700, you wrote:
5854
5855>
5856> i am a firm believer that true worth of living can only be seen with the
5857eyes
5858> of a child.
5859>
5860> the innocence that his (or her, as it could be a woman) writing is meant to
5861> convey does pull at me.
5862
5863
5864
5865What, you think those are originals? Are you freaking kidding me?
5866
5867Bella, very very grumpy
5868---------------------------------------
5869*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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5874<html>
5875At 03:23 AM 4/4/00 -0700, you wrote: <br>
5876<br>
5877<font size=2><blockquote type=cite cite>i am a firm believer that true
5878worth of living can only be seen with the eyes of a
5879child.</font><font size=3> <br>
5880<br>
5881</font><font size=2>the innocence that his (or her, as it could be a
5882woman) writing is meant to convey does pull at me.</font><font size=3>
5883</font></blockquote><br>
5884<br>
5885<font size=2>What, you think those are originals? Are you freaking
5886kidding me?<br>
5887<br>
5888Bella, very very grumpy</font><br>
5889<div>---------------------------------------</div>
5890<div>*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my
5891sister</div>
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5902From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 14:17:56 2000
5903MIME-Version: 1.0
5904From: Ross <ross@roundpeg.com>
5905To: "'sfglj@sfgoth.com'" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
5906Subject: RE: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha...
5907 we know his name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one shot to blow
5908 him away!
5909Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:09:35 -0700
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5930yah...you are grumpy. ;-)
5931i never said his shite was original. some of it is just annoying platitudes
5932in a sense.
5933some of it sounds like the "Deep Thoughts" from SNL
5934but just becuz somebody repeats other people's words doesn;t make the words
5935wrong, or have less meaning, does it?
5936
5937What, you think those are originals? Are you freaking kidding me?
5938
5939Bella, very very grumpy
5940
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5954<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN
5955class=240435517-04042000>yah...you are grumpy. ;-) </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
5956<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=240435517-04042000>i
5957never said his shite was original. some of it is just annoying platitudes in a
5958sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
5959<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=240435517-04042000>some
5960of it sounds like the "Deep Thoughts" from SNL</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
5961<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=240435517-04042000>but
5962just becuz somebody repeats other people's words doesn;t make the words wrong,
5963or have less meaning, does it?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
5964<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=2>What, you think those are originals? Are you
5965 freaking kidding me?<BR><BR>Bella, very very
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5974From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 14:58:49 2000
5975MIME-Version: 1.0
5976From: Jennifer_Jehnsen@broadview.com
5977Subject: RE: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
5978To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
5979Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:37:09 -0700
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5992
5993
5994Once again I'm putting in my two cents...
5995
5996It seems like this Eric B is a rather contraversial fellow. I have noticed
5997that he has caused quite a stirring.
5998
5999First of all, it doesn't matter whether or not Eric B. is another member
6000from the list using an alias, or if he's just some guy posting random shite
6001to the list. The fact is, he posts, and that is that.
6002My suggestion is that if you don't like his "deep thoughts", then just
6003delete the posts from him, or filter them.
6004Conversely, if you like his posts, there is no need to rant on and on.
6005Private email works very well for that.
6006Do three hundred junkies, most who probably don't care either way, really
6007need to read/continuously delete arguments about whether another junkie is
6008brilliant or braindead?
6009Just accept him for who he is or ignore him.
6010
6011I don't mean to sound grumpy, it just seemed a bit of common sense.
6012
6013Love,
6014Christobel
6015
6016_____________________________
6017And you don't seem the lying kind
6018A shame then I can read your mind
6019 And all the things that I read there
6020Candle lit smile that we both share
6021-Jasmine Rogers, Duvet (Lain theme)
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6029From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 18:49:27 2000
6030MIME-Version: 1.0
6031From: "Auros Symtheos" <rmharman@earthling.net>
6032To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
6033Subject: Re: [SFG] sore
6034Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:31:54 -0700
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6049
6050
6051You nitwit. AIDS doesn't give you a sore throat. AIDS kills your immune
6052system so you just can't fight off other opportunistic infections. So you
6053can die of a cold. I thought they taught this stuff in sex-ed at this
6054point, right? All part of the program to teach kids that "sex is bad,
6055mmmkay?"
6056
6057Auros
6058
6059... everything astonishes me, myself most of all. When I think of myself
6060I can scarcely believe my senses. But there it is, all my friends tell me
6061I actually exist and by an act of faith I have come to believe them.
6062-- Christopher Fry, _The Lady's Not For Burning_
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6069From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 19:08:51 2000
6070MIME-Version: 1.0
6071From: "Chaos Monkey" <chaosmonkey@vajravai.com>
6072To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
6073Subject: RE: [SFG] sore
6074Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:10:36 -0700
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6091
6092
6093maybe the activity that Eric was engaging in, in order to catch the sexually
6094transmitted disease, gave him the sore throat. Was he too big for you Eric?
6095
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6101From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 19:21:47 2000
6102MIME-Version: 1.0
6103X-Sender: lunatic@bierpe3.apple.com
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6105Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
6106Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:11:36 -0700
6107To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6108From: Peter Bierman <lunatic@cs.wisc.edu>
6109Subject: Troll (was: [SFG] sore)
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6119
6120
6121>I didn't write yesterday because I've had a really terrible sore
6122>throat. Maybe I have AIDS?
6123
6124
6125This is a troll. Please do not respond to it.
6126
6127Once again, my standard speech:
6128
6129If you don't like a person, or thread, the best way to make it go away is
6130to IGNORE it.
6131
6132-pmb
6133
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6136Packet with a bit not set | http://www.mycds.com/pmb/
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6138We all go down. -A. Stern | tremendous energy merely to be normal."-Al Camus
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6146From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 19:27:29 2000
6147MIME-Version: 1.0
6148Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:21:45 -0700
6149From: Tobias <phix@think.org>
6150X-Accept-Language: en
6151To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6152Subject: Re: [SFG] sore
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6163
6164
6165It is my guess that he has gotten a sore throat from eating all these
6166emails that you keep feeding him.
6167
6168Now I'm getting a sore throat from having to swallow not only one lame
6169email, but all the lame replies to it.
6170
6171Ok, I will leave it at before I start eating my own excrement.
6172
6173I think that jamba juice went straight to my head. I'm getting saucy
6174again.
6175
6176-=tobias=-
6177
6178
6179
6180"...remember that old comic book character called the Human Toch, who
6181could say the words 'flame on' and catch himself on fire? Well, I saw a
6182guy do that the other day, only he didn't have no 'flame on'
6183super-powers or nuttin'. He was just a regular guy on fire."
6184--Lance Xtra Spicey Panda Juice--
6185
6186
6187
6188
6189
6190Chaos Monkey wrote:
6191>
6192> maybe the activity that Eric was engaging in, in order to catch the sexually
6193> transmitted disease, gave him the sore throat. Was he too big for you Eric?
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6199From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 19:27:31 2000
6200MIME-Version: 1.0
6201From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
6202Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:16:31 -0700
6203X-Priority: Normal
6204Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
6205To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6206Subject: [SFG] hooray for Eric B!!!
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6216
6217
6218Eric B. uses standard English punctuation and grammar.
6219He does not post in html.
6220He signs his name at the bottom of his email.
6221He does not forward things or send attachments.
6222He only includes the relevant part of whatever he is quoting and trims headers, and stuff. (Well he doesn't exactly quote things, but there aren't any annoying random bits of other posts included for no real reason)
6223He does post content of more than one line. It may not have anything to do with anything else happening on the list, but it is content.
6224
6225I like Eric B. How is he a criminal? I would rate him less annoying then a lot of people on the list.
6226
6227Katy
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6239From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 19:42:51 2000
6240MIME-Version: 1.0
6241X-Sent: 4 Apr 2000 23:32:09 GMT
6242Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:35:38 -0700
6243From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
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6246Subject: Re: [SFG] sore
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6258
6259Oh my god! Eric! You've obviously got AIDS! This is terrible! The only known
6260cure for your rare but deadly form of the syndrome is to cover your entire body
6261in vaseline and chocolate and leave it for 6 days! Otherwise you could die any
6262minute! HURRY!
6263
6264--
6265"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
6266Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
6267 -Industrial 101
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6275From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 21:50:37 2000
6276MIME-Version: 1.0
6277X-Originating-IP: [209.1.113.206]
6278From: "Clever Gothic Alias" <trickassbich@hotmail.com>
6279To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6280Subject: Re: [SFG] hooray for Eric B!!!
6281Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:35:24 PDT
6282Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
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6293
6294The term "content" is relative.
6295
6296>>I can't think about this any more today. I'm going to masturbate.
6297
6298going to?
6299
6300>It may not have anything to do with anything else happening on the >list,
6301>but it is content.
6302
6303Almost, try it like this: It does not have anything to do with anything.
6304
6305-CGA, I can sign my name too. What does that say about me again?
6306
6307
6308
6309
6310----Original Message Follows----
6311From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
6312Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6313To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6314Subject: [SFG] hooray for Eric B!!!
6315Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:16:31 -0700
6316
6317
6318Eric B. uses standard English punctuation and grammar.
6319He does not post in html.
6320He signs his name at the bottom of his email.
6321He does not forward things or send attachments.
6322He only includes the relevant part of whatever he is quoting and trims
6323headers, and stuff. (Well he doesn't exactly quote things, but there aren't
6324any annoying random bits of other posts included for no real reason)
6325He does post content of more than one line. It may not have anything to do
6326with anything else happening on the list, but it is content.
6327
6328I like Eric B. How is he a criminal? I would rate him less annoying then a
6329lot of people on the list.
6330
6331Katy
6332
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6351From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 22:37:34 2000
6352MIME-Version: 1.0
6353Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
6354From: Gear Head <gears_n_da_head@yahoo.com>
6355Subject: Re: [SFG] we're on the road, and we're gunning for the Buddha... we know his name and he mustn't get away.... It'll take one shot to blow him away!
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6367
6368
6369Hey, at least their good for mowing the lawn and
6370chores and you never know when there's going to be a
6371food shortage, umm.....tender, young meat.
6372
6373>
6374> Kids, innocent? HA! Kids are cruel, cunning, devious
6375> creatures. Yes, they
6376> are cute and loveable and have very nice qualities
6377> as well. But they are
6378> NOT innocent.
6379>
6380> -Nicole
6381>
6382>
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6401From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 4 23:52:22 2000
6402MIME-Version: 1.0
6403Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:46:48 -0700
6404From: Michael Mierzwa <mmierzwa@ix.netcom.com>
6405Organization: Mon Calamari Diplomatic Mission
6406To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6407Subject: Re: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
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6418
6419
6420Jennifer_Jehnsen@broadview.com wrote:
6421>
6422> I don't mean to sound grumpy, it just seemed a bit of common sense.
6423
6424You don't sound grumpy at all!
6425
6426You sound exactly on the level.
6427As does Aki, who's advice applies to all of us any time we choose. It
6428is easy. Listen to Aki.
6429
6430I'm also gonna agree with Katy and say that I can't help but admire that
6431he generally follows the rules, doesn't feel a need to top himself over
6432folks (or if he has, it has passed my notice). He really doesn't seem
6433to be causing much harm.
6434
6435I also want to agree with Peter ... he/she is trolling.
6436
6437And yes, I am pretty sure he is just an alias, but Christobel is right:
6438it doesn't matter.
6439
6440Now this is where I disagree by agreeing with others ...
6441
6442I also see the point Paula and Eric have posted several times. It is a
6443bit distrubing that the new Eric doesn't seem to respond. I personally
6444like the idea that groups of people can talk here. He doesn't seem
6445interested in that. I'd like to see threads where people exchange
6446ideas, not battles (including one sided ones).
6447
6448(As an asside: Iron Chuck, thanks for the WonderCon reminder! I totally
6449forgot and need to dig in some comic bins for old Star Wars stuff. I'll
6450keep an eye out for all the listies going there.) =)
6451
6452Michael
6453-with an onion on my belt too, no fucking clue why though
6454--
6455
6456Philosopher by day, Magician Among the Spirits by night
6457"It was never about reading, it has always been about the writing."
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6463From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 00:56:11 2000
6464MIME-Version: 1.0
6465X-Originating-IP: [38.28.76.117]
6466From: "Fernando Orozco" <fsoii@hotmail.com>
6467To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6468Subject: Re: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
6469Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 04:50:46 GMT
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6481
6482
6483>I also want to agree with Peter ... he/she is trolling.
6484
6485Well Duh! ;P
6486
6487>
6488>Now this is where I disagree by agreeing with others ...
6489>
6490>I also see the point Paula and Eric have posted several times. It is a
6491>bit distrubing that the new Eric doesn't seem to respond. I personally
6492>like the idea that groups of people can talk here. He doesn't seem
6493>interested in that. I'd like to see threads where people exchange
6494>ideas, not battles (including one sided ones).
6495
6496Maybe he is just someone who is so socialy disfunctional, he is incapible of
6497conversation. I have been meeting an increasing number of people like this
6498in our scene lately. It's my new favorite disturbing trend.
6499
6500~FSO~
6501
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6511From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 01:25:19 2000
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6514Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:13:37 -0700
6515To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6516From: Paula Ashton <Bellalune@phoenix-alliance.com>
6517Subject: Re: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
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6529
6530
6531At 09:50 PM 4/4/00 , you wrote:
6532
6533
6534>>I also see the point Paula and Eric have posted several times. It is a
6535>>bit distrubing that the new Eric doesn't seem to respond. I personally
6536>>like the idea that groups of people can talk here. He doesn't seem
6537>>interested in that. I'd like to see threads where people exchange
6538>>ideas, not battles (including one sided ones).
6539>
6540>Maybe he is just someone who is so socialy disfunctional, he is incapible
6541>of conversation. I have been meeting an increasing number of people like
6542>this in our scene lately. It's my new favorite disturbing trend.
6543
6544
6545Or how about "Eric B" is just a bot of some kind?
6546
6547I have to be offline alll day tomorrow at some meeting. Boss wants me to
6548go and take notes, long hand. I dont even know if I can write with a pen
6549for an extended length of time anymore!!!
6550
6551Bella
6552http://www.sfgoth.com/~bella
6553I have seen the True Path. I will not
6554warm myself by the fire ~ I will become the Flame.
6555
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6561From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 01:36:59 2000
6562MIME-Version: 1.0
6563Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:23:45 -0700 (PDT)
6564From: cat anime <faerycat@yahoo.com>
6565Subject: Re: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
6566To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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6577
6578
6579What if this Eric B. is some sort of pyschology
6580student doing an experiment? Posting but not
6581participating in threads just to see what various
6582reactions are received, trying to figure out the "goth
6583psyche". Using this list as a group of controlled rats
6584in a lab. Or just some curious, demented, lonely,
6585socially disfunct person that enjoys sharing their
6586personal thoughts but is afraid to respond to others'
6587for fear of rejection. Isn't agoraphobia what they
6588call a fear of the outside world? It could be possible
6589that in some strange way Eric B. is reaching out for
6590some sort of connection he/she is unable to do in
6591person.
6592
6593Ever wonder what this person may think about what
6594he/she reads what we say about him/her? If they're
6595read by this person at all. This person could be
6596laughing at us all this very minute,reading this exact
6597same post at the same time as any of you. Of course
6598it's always possible that Eric B. never reads anything
6599and just posts randomly for his/her own amusement as
6600has been suggested earlier, or an alias for another
6601listee who's trolling.Ah, the possibilities are
6602endless as to the identity and mind of this unknown
6603person.
6604
6605Cat~
6606anyone have some good cheddar or blue cheese? How
6607about munster?
6608
6609=====
6610Drawn to Bacchus's abode, I sought there to conspire.
6611But it was in the city of the dead that I found my heart's desire.
6612
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6622From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 03:01:13 2000
6623MIME-Version: 1.0
6624X-Sent: 5 Apr 2000 06:50:11 GMT
6625Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:53:43 -0700
6626From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
6627X-Accept-Language: en
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6640
6641
6642In pseudo-defense of Eric B., her did once email me privately in a response to
6643something I said about him on the list.
6644So he exists on some level.
6645But the important thing is that this post is 3 lines long.
6646
6647--
6648"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
6649Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
6650 -Industrial 101
6651
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6658From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 03:23:12 2000
6659MIME-Version: 1.0
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6661Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:17:51 -0700 (PDT)
6662From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
6663To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6664Subject: Re: [SFG] gunning down Eric B?
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6676
6677
6678
6679
6680 If it *really* bothers you:
6681
6682 :0:
6683 * ^(To|From|Cc|Reply-To|Bcc):.*eric_b@hotmail.com
6684 /dev/null
6685
6686 Can you guys ignore and drop it now, please?
6687
6688
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6697From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 05:16:05 2000
6698MIME-Version: 1.0
6699From: PogoQueenX@aol.com
6700Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 05:08:40 EDT
6701Subject: Re: Re: [SFG] sore
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6713
6714
6715
6716
6717<<Now I'm getting a sore throat from having to swallow not only one lame
6718email, but all the lame replies to it.
6719>>
6720
6721We both know a lot about sore throats.. don't we ,Tobias? That guy probably
6722has strep throat.. I know it all too well.--Gia
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6729From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 17:06:30 2000
6730MIME-Version: 1.0
6731From: "Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>
6732To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
6733Subject: [SFG] re: special
6734Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 13:55:35 -0700
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6751
6752
6753
6754> will have children or not have children. Certainly they will eat and
6755> they will shit. And one day, they will die.
6756>
6757> In a hundred years or so they will be nothing. They will not be
6758> remembered by anyone, not even by their grandchildren. Maybe their
6759> grandchildren. Probably they will be remembered by their
6760> grandchildren.
6761
6762Education: in one hundred years or so, most of them will still be alive.
6763Certainly those that want to be. In fifty years, the human condition will
6764likely have ceased to exist as anything other than an interesting option for
6765living. We are entering uncertain times and the very essence of the ways we
6766live, think and aspire now will come to seem as interesting, alluring or
6767quaint as firedancing, the SCA or primitives-by-choice.
6768
6769We do not live in a wheel, endlessly turning. We live in an express train
6770that is taking us far from the fields we know and into a future beyond the
6771wildest imaginings of our ancestors.
6772
6773Reason
6774http://www.exratio.com/
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6780
6781From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 18:21:53 2000
6782From: majcher@chorn.com
6783Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:17:19 -0400
6784X-Authentication-Warning: chorn.com: majcher set sender to majcher@chorn.com using -f
6785To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6786In-reply-to: <000101bf9f41$4a7f4a90$64055e3f@praetoriangroup.com>
6787 (reason@PraetorianGroup.com)
6788Subject: Re: [SFG] re: special
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6799
6800
6801"Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>:
6802
6803:We do not live in a wheel, endlessly turning. We live in an express train
6804:that is taking us far from the fields we know and into a future beyond the
6805:wildest imaginings of our ancestors.
6806
6807I WANT MY FLYING CAR! WHERE'S MY GODDAMN FLYING CAR?
6808
6809
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6816From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 18:31:13 2000
6817MIME-Version: 1.0
6818From: Ross <ross@roundpeg.com>
6819To: "'sfglj@sfgoth.com'" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
6820Subject: RE: [SFG] re: special
6821Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:26:58 -0700
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6841
6842hehe...
6843i just wanta Rosey, the robotic maid from the Jetsons.
6844and yes, i want one with just as much attitude....
6845
6846just becuz she has no sense of smell, and wouldn't mind emptying the kitty
6847litter....
6848 the things i do for my cats.....
6849
6850-----Original Message-----
6851From: majcher@chorn.com [mailto:majcher@chorn.com]
6852Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:17 PM
6853To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
6854Subject: Re: [SFG] re: special
6855
6856
6857
6858
6859"Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>:
6860
6861:We do not live in a wheel, endlessly turning. We live in an express train
6862:that is taking us far from the fields we know and into a future beyond the
6863:wildest imaginings of our ancestors.
6864
6865I WANT MY FLYING CAR! WHERE'S MY GODDAMN FLYING CAR?
6866
6867
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6886
6887<P><FONT SIZE=2>hehe...</FONT>
6888<BR><FONT SIZE=2>i just wanta Rosey, the robotic maid from the Jetsons.</FONT>
6889<BR><FONT SIZE=2>and yes, i want one with just as much attitude.... </FONT>
6890</P>
6891
6892<P><FONT SIZE=2>just becuz she has no sense of smell, and wouldn't mind emptying the kitty litter....</FONT>
6893<BR><FONT SIZE=2> the things i do for my cats.....</FONT>
6894</P>
6895
6896<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
6897<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: majcher@chorn.com [<A HREF="mailto:majcher@chorn.com">mailto:majcher@chorn.com</A>]</FONT>
6898<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 3:17 PM</FONT>
6899<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com</FONT>
6900<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: Re: [SFG] re: special</FONT>
6901</P>
6902<BR>
6903<BR>
6904<BR>
6905
6906<P><FONT SIZE=2>"Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>:</FONT>
6907</P>
6908
6909<P><FONT SIZE=2>:We do not live in a wheel, endlessly turning. We live in an express train</FONT>
6910<BR><FONT SIZE=2>:that is taking us far from the fields we know and into a future beyond the</FONT>
6911<BR><FONT SIZE=2>:wildest imaginings of our ancestors.</FONT>
6912</P>
6913
6914<P><FONT SIZE=2>I WANT MY FLYING CAR! WHERE'S MY GODDAMN FLYING CAR? </FONT>
6915</P>
6916<BR>
6917
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6933From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 19:06:24 2000
6934MIME-Version: 1.0
6935X-Sent: 5 Apr 2000 22:27:10 GMT
6936Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:30:47 -0700
6937From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
6938X-Accept-Language: en
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6940Subject: Re: [SFG] special/pirates
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6951
6952
6953Eric B wrote:
6954
6955>
6956> I went to a pawnshop and bought a little telescope. Like the pirate
6957> kind. And I got a good look at what he was touching. A small piece
6958> of baby blanket from when he was a small baby. Probably he always
6959> held it and he had an unhappy childhood. So now touching this small
6960> piece of cloth makes him happy. And it's his own special secret.
6961
6962You know what I say to that??? ARRR!!! That's what I say!! ARR!!! SHIVER ME
6963TIMBERS ERIC B.! AND PREPARE TA WALK THE PLANK, YA SCURVY LANDLUBBER!! (I don't
6964know why a 'landlover', i.e. a non-seafaring person, would contract scurvy, but
6965ARR!!) ARR!!! HE WHO DARES TO RIDE PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN AT DISNEYLAND
6966SHOULD HEED THESE WORDS: THE RESAURANT YOU SEE PEOPLE EATING AT WHIlE YOU'RE
6967STANDING IN LINE IS REALLY EXPENSIVE!!! AND I'VE NEVER EATEN THERE BUT IT'S
6968PROBABLY NOT THAT GOOD!! ARRRRRRRR!!!!!
6969
6970In closing,
6971
6972
6973
6974
6975
6976AAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6977
6978
6979-Eric G., who has a peg leg, a parrot, an eye-patch, a plastic sword, a silly
6980hat, stripey tights, and a shirt that has a tie-collar thingee that reveals too
6981much of his chest.
6982
6983Ok, I actually just have stripey tights (which are black and purple and not
6984very pirate-like) and the shirt, neither of which do I wear very often. But
6985ARR!!!
6986
6987
6988--
6989"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
6990Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
6991 -Industrial 101
6992
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6999From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 19:06:32 2000
7000MIME-Version: 1.0
7001X-Authentication-Warning: elohim.gaijin.com: bharris owned process doing -bs
7002Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 15:32:08 -0700 (PDT)
7003From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
7004To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7005Subject: Re: [SFG] re: special
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7018
7019On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 majcher@chorn.com wrote:
7020>
7021> "Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>:
7022>
7023> :We do not live in a wheel, endlessly turning. We live in an express train
7024> :that is taking us far from the fields we know and into a future beyond the
7025> :wildest imaginings of our ancestors.
7026>
7027> I WANT MY FLYING CAR! WHERE'S MY GODDAMN FLYING CAR?
7028
7029 The same people who failed to bring you year 2000 terrorist
7030 attacks and bombings also failed to bring your your flying
7031 car, Majcher.
7032
7033 Get back in your cage.
7034
7035
7036_____________________________________________b r a n d o n h a r r i s___
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7044From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 20:45:59 2000
7045MIME-Version: 1.0
7046X-Originating-IP: [128.32.208.21]
7047From: "Matthew Hayes" <matthewhades@hotmail.com>
7048To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7049Subject: Re: [SFG] re: special
7050Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 17:35:20 PDT
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7061
7062
7063<Hand sheepishly raises>
7064
7065Umm, that would be me. Yeah.
7066
7067Sorry.
7068
7069Fuck.
7070
7071M
7072
7073(But there were, like, security guards, and dogs 'n shit! Whaddya fuckin'
7074want from me?!)
7075
7076 *SOMEONE* failed to get me nuclear detonators.
7077
7078 <cough cough cough>
7079
7080
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7089From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 5 22:58:07 2000
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7092From: "GAF Dncing" <gafdncing@hotmail.com>
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7094Subject: Re: [SFG] special
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7107
7108I forwarded your post from yesterday to a person in my office and now you
7109are the office star. Periodically you will hear someone say "and now I'm
7110going to masturbate". So, I did it again today. (yes both)
7111
7112Dancing
7113
7114----Original Message Follows----
7115From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
7116Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7117To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7118Subject: [SFG] special
7119Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:53:48 EDT
7120
7121
7122I was feeling better today so I went for a walk. I saw these college
7123students walking arm in arm. They think they are so unusual. They
7124are so arrogant. Arm in arm watching the flowers blooming and they
7125think they're the only people who ever lived. They know they are
7126young and they will make love and think thoughts and be very concerned
7127about the world. Maybe they will protest something. But in the end
7128it doesn't make any difference. They will marry or not marry, they
7129will have children or not have children. Certainly they will eat and
7130they will shit. And one day, they will die.
7131
7132In a hundred years or so they will be nothing. They will not be
7133remembered by anyone, not even by their grandchildren. Maybe their
7134grandchildren. Probably they will be remembered by their grandchildren.
7135
7136But they did spend some time on earth helping to destroy it with their
7137pissing and shitting and car driving and house building.
7138
7139I feel a bit better today. My sore throat is gone. But I have an
7140itchy scab on my elbow. My landlady says I should "get it looked at."
7141She just wants me to be in good health so I can keep paying her rent.
7142
7143I would hate to lose this apartment. Not that there's anything nice
7144about it. But it just happens to look out at other apartments, and if
7145I turn my lights out and stand in the shadows just the right way I can
7146watch people when they are safe at home and don't think anyone is
7147watching them.
7148
7149There's a woman who takes her clothes off and stands in front of the
7150window with all the lights on. But she isn't very interesting except
7151that I saw her once in the supermarket and I had to laugh to myself.
7152I thought: "Yes, that's right, buy your toilet paper, I know what
7153you're going to do with it!"
7154
7155There's a man who sits at his kitchen table and drinks whiskey and
7156smokes cigarettes. Usually he does this right after he's come home
7157from being out or just before he goes out. I guess if you enjoy
7158watching someone smoke cigarettes and drink, it's worthwhile. But I don't.
7159
7160There is a man who I can't see too well. I can only see his legs and
7161arms. A little of his mouth. He lies in be almost every night and
7162reads stacks of magazines. He doesn't smoke. He doesn't drink. He
7163doesn't eat. He's very disciplined. He holds something in his hand.
7164For a long time I couldn't figure out what he was holding. He would
7165fondle this thing.
7166
7167I went to a pawnshop and bought a little telescope. Like the pirate
7168kind. And I got a good look at what he was touching. A small piece
7169of baby blanket from when he was a small baby. Probably he always
7170held it and he had an unhappy childhood. So now touching this small
7171piece of cloth makes him happy. And it's his own special secret.
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7189From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 06:47:50 2000
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7192Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 03:46:05 -0700
7193From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
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7196Subject: Re: [SFG] The City of Despair
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7208
7209That was a *little* bit cheezy, but a hell of a lot better than any of Eric B's
7210posts! At least it was interesting and well written!
7211Hm. Actually I think I like it! Is there a story behind it Sam?
7212
7213Sam hain wrote:
7214
7215> I am the City of Despair. My streets are old, twisted and broken. My
7216> buildings hunch over under their own weight and house only echoes. Nothing
7217> grows here but mildew and decay. You never want to visit here. Not even
7218> the sun bothers to shine through my tear stained windows. How dare anyone
7219> call me home? I am not home; I am not Summerland. Not a soul lingers here,
7220> not even my own. Nothing stirs the still, heavy air neither pallbearer nor
7221> crow. I am without release, without end. I am the prison no one can see
7222> and I am the incarcerated.
7223> You pass through me nearly everyday. You make the silence that much more
7224> unbearable. To you, I am invisible. I have no blood. I have no voice. I
7225> am without humanity. Yet this road map of who I was crosses my face and
7226> hands. These scars and lines, the stains and dirt, they are a chronicle you
7227> can not read. This is the history you ignore because it not yours and you
7228> are full of your own. So this perpetual gray storm clouded sky, icy steel
7229> and unyielding stone that is never warm, this I call home. If I cry out in
7230> outrage or scream as loud as I can, or even ask you to help me, my voice is
7231> less than a whisper because it is you who are the ghost in these, my empty
7232> streets. There is no one to hear or to care. Even I don't remember how I
7233> came here to The City of Despair.
7234> It is always the bitterest winter in my city. Within the frozen promise of
7235> seeds that my yet bloom in spring only the shortness of my breath counts
7236> away the moments. I think those seeds lie not dormant but dead, buried
7237> beneath too many years of frozen soil that is now my body and my skin. No
7238> one tends the garden, not even me. No bright promise to be born upward
7239> through poison ash left by the corpses like you who burned me down. Soon,
7240> but not soon enough the darkness and I will enfold until one and the other
7241> are indistinguishable. But the City will always remain. Patiently waiting
7242> crowed to its borders with the lost, so lost that they could not see each
7243> other or save themselves.
7244>
7245
7246--
7247"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
7248Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
7249 -Industrial 101
7250
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7257From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 15:11:22 2000
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7260Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:04:33 -0700
7261From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
7262X-Accept-Language: en
7263To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7264Subject: Re: [SFG] baby
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7276
7277Waitaminute Eric B... You're right! When things go bad, it IS your fault! All
7278of it! YOU are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for EVERYTHING wrong with ME! Thank you so
7279much for taking blame! This alleviates me of so much pressure! I'll never take
7280responsibility for anything ever again!
7281
7282"Say Eric G., why did you just shoot that little kid in the foot?"
7283"It's Eric B.'s fault!"
7284"Yeah! That BASTARD! I HATE HIM SO MUCH!"
7285"Me too!"
7286"Let's go rob a bank! And then we'll have sex!"
7287"Okay!"
7288
7289Thank you Eric B.! I hate you for everything you've done!
7290
7291Fucking hippy.
7292
7293Eric B wrote:
7294
7295> I wish I could be a baby again. Then I would be innocent. Being
7296> grown-up just means being confused most of the time and unhappy all of
7297> the time. Just when things get going in a good direction, everything
7298> changes. And then I feel bad, like it's my fault everything started
7299> to go bad. And then I want to do bad things. Which doesn't help at all.
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7308--
7309"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
7310Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
7311 -Industrial 101
7312
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7319From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 16:58:17 2000
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7322From: "jo jo" <jo_jo_242@hotmail.com>
7323To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7324Subject: [SFG] scents
7325Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 20:50:30 GMT
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7336
7337
7338My fingers smell like pizza but I haven't had pizza since yesterday. Does
7339this mean I haven't washed my hands since yesterday? I have showered and
7340yet my fingers STILL smell like pizza.
7341
7342Do you just scratch your head and sniff your fingers afterwards? It is a
7343lovely smell if you've washed your hair. I'd hate to think of what it might
7344smell like if you didn't.
7345
7346I like to smell things. I think it makes you more aware of your
7347surroundings. Whether it be a pleasant smell or a malodorous smell.
7348I think everyone should take the time to stop and smell the roses.
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7357From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:21:38 2000
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7360From: "Youth in Asia" <spongy666@hotmail.com>
7361To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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7373
7374
7375So, I'm curious about something. Why are there all of a sudden a whole slew
7376of Jack Handley wannabe's sprouting up like weeds on this list?
7377
7378Egan >:>
7379
7380"If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier
7381about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed
7382all the time, for no good reason."
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7392From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:24:33 2000
7393MIME-Version: 1.0
7394From: "Talaitha DerDraigen" <talaitha@dynamine.net>
7395To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
7396Subject: Re: [SFG] scents
7397Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:16:15 -0700
7398Organization: http://talaitha.dynamine.net
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7413
7414
7415uhm, you're not Eric B.'s even eviler clone, are you?
7416[& no, this is not a one-liner.<----there's my second line, see?]
7417
7418~yen
7419
7420~**~*~»§«:*´`³¤³´`*:»§«~*~**~
7421 <talaitha@dynamine.net>
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7427----- Original Message -----
7428From: jo jo <jo_jo_242@hotmail.com>
7429> My fingers smell like pizza but I haven't had pizza since yesterday. Does
7430> this mean I haven't washed my hands since yesterday? I have showered and
7431> yet my fingers STILL smell like pizza.
7432>
7433> Do you just scratch your head and sniff your fingers afterwards? It is a
7434> lovely smell if you've washed your hair. I'd hate to think of what it
7435might
7436> smell like if you didn't.
7437>
7438> I like to smell things. I think it makes you more aware of your
7439> surroundings. Whether it be a pleasant smell or a malodorous smell.
7440> I think everyone should take the time to stop and smell the roses.
7441
7442
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7448From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:28:27 2000
7449MIME-Version: 1.0
7450From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
7451Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:23:05 -0700
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7454To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7455Subject: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
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7466
7467Eric B has just reached the point of bad evil in my book. I didn't mind it when one random and mysterious person was randomly and infrequently posting "deep thoughts", but enough is enough. Eric B!! I hope you are reading this because you started this thing and it is all your fault! I am sick of hearing like ten random people sending out several random "deep thoughts" a day. Maybe the "deep thoughts" people need to start their own list so they can fill each other's inboxes with "deep thoughts" all day.
7468
7469Just my suggestion.
7470
7471Yeah, so I'm grumpy from sacrificing almost all my sleep to write a paper that I am still going to have to turn in late.
7472
7473Is it the weekend yet? I'll be at Shrine like I am every week.
7474
7475Katy
7476
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7487From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:39:08 2000
7488MIME-Version: 1.0
7489X-Authentication-Warning: elohim.gaijin.com: bharris owned process doing -bs
7490Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:34:23 -0700 (PDT)
7491From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
7492To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7493Subject: [SFG] Re: your mail
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7505
7506
7507On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Youth in Asia wrote:
7508
7509>
7510> So, I'm curious about something. Why are there all of a sudden a whole slew
7511> of Jack Handley wannabe's sprouting up like weeds on this list?
7512
7513
7514 Becasue one person is doing it, now a couple others are clones.
7515
7516 It *always* happens.
7517
7518 Treat the others like you treat the first. Don't stress it.
7519
7520
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7529From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:40:41 2000
7530MIME-Version: 1.0
7531Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:27:37 -0700
7532From: Mark Wilson <mwilson@us.oracle.com>
7533Organization: Oracle Corporation
7534X-Accept-Language: en
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7548
7549> So, I'm curious about something. Why are there all of a sudden a whole slew
7550> of Jack Handley wannabe's sprouting up like weeds on this list?
7551
7552Because Eric B, Katzen Kaiser, and Jo Jo are probably all the same
7553person.
7554
7555Mark
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7561From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 17:47:47 2000
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7566From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
7567Subject: Re: [SFG] Re: your mail
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7580
7581At 02:34 PM 4/6/00 -0700, Brandon wrote:
7582>
7583>On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Youth in Asia wrote:
7584>
7585>>
7586>> So, I'm curious about something. Why are there all of a sudden a whole
7587slew
7588>> of Jack Handley wannabe's sprouting up like weeds on this list?
7589>
7590>
7591> Becasue one person is doing it, now a couple others are clones.
7592>
7593> It *always* happens.
7594>
7595> Treat the others like you treat the first. Don't stress it.
7596
7597
7598Dont feed the strays ;-0
7599
7600um, anything good gossip-wise in the music scene happening?
7601
7602Bella
7603---------------------------------------
7604*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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7611From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 18:43:09 2000
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7614From: "j450n Morales" <neurodancer@hotmail.com>
7615To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7616Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
7617Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:29:34 GMT
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7629
7630That was quick.
7631
7632
7633~ neurodancer ~ newer waver ~
7634if(!kill(self))
7635 self.strength++;
7636
7637
7638>From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com> Subject: [SFG] hooray
7639>for Eric B!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:16:31 -0700
7640>
7641>I like Eric B. How is he a criminal? I would rate him less annoying >then a
7642>lot
7643>of people on the list.
7644>
7645>Katy
7646
7647
7648>From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
7649>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:23:05 -0700
7650>
7651>Eric B has just reached the point of bad evil in my book. I didn't mind it
7652>when one random and mysterious person was randomly and infrequently posting
7653>"deep thoughts", but enough is enough. Eric B!! I hope you are reading this
7654>because you started this thing and it is all your fault! I am sick of
7655>hearing like ten random people sending out several random "deep thoughts" a
7656>day. Maybe the "deep thoughts" people need to start their own list so they
7657>can fill each other's inboxes with "deep thoughts" all day.
7658>
7659>Just my suggestion.
7660>
7661>Katy
7662
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7672From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 18:44:26 2000
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7675From: "j450n Morales" <neurodancer@hotmail.com>
7676To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7677Subject: Re: [SFG] scents
7678Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 22:33:13 GMT
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7689
7690
7691This is in protest of idiotic pseudo-cute attempts at justification.
7692
7693>From: "Talaitha DerDraigen" <talaitha@dynamine.net>
7694>
7695>uhm, you're not Eric B.'s even eviler clone, are you?
7696>[& no, this is not a one-liner.<----there's my second line, see?]
7697>
7698>~yen
7699>
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7709From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 18:58:22 2000
7710MIME-Version: 1.0
7711From: Voiletmist@aol.com
7712Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:50:55 EDT
7713Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
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7726
7727Katy Sez:
7728
7729Eric B has just reached the point of bad evil in my book. I didn't mind it
7730when one random and mysterious person was randomly and infrequently posting
7731"deep thoughts", but enough is enough.
7732
7733Right! I have to second the motion that they move it somewhere else. I was
7734deftly deleting all of Eric B's posts but with all these imitators running
7735around it is nearly impossible to filter out all of this crap. I enjoy
7736reading peoples serious thoughts on some of the issues brought up, even if I
7737don't necessarily agree with them all. But this randomness is just so
7738juvenile, if I wanted to read this kind of thing I would join a bad poetry
7739news group!
7740
7741Yeah, so I'm grumpy from sacrificing almost all my sleep to write a paper
7742that I am still going to have to turn in late.
7743
7744Funny, I seem to be in the same mood for the same cause. Then again I find I
7745actually write better at 3:00 am. Two out of three Essays are done, all of
7746which are due in about three hours! Maybe I should stop procrastinating on
7747that last one and get down to work!
7748Carrie
7749
7750We faren as he that dronke is as a mous.
7751A dronke man woot wel he hath a hous,
7752But he noot which the righte wey is thider,
7753And to a dronke man th way is slider.
7754And certes, in this world so faren we.
7755We seken faste after felicitee,
7756But we goon wrong ful often trewely.
7757 -G. Chaucer _Knight's Tale_
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7763From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 18:58:22 2000
7764MIME-Version: 1.0
7765From: Voiletmist@aol.com
7766Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:50:55 EDT
7767Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
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7780
7781Katy Sez:
7782
7783Eric B has just reached the point of bad evil in my book. I didn't mind it
7784when one random and mysterious person was randomly and infrequently posting
7785"deep thoughts", but enough is enough.
7786
7787Right! I have to second the motion that they move it somewhere else. I was
7788deftly deleting all of Eric B's posts but with all these imitators running
7789around it is nearly impossible to filter out all of this crap. I enjoy
7790reading peoples serious thoughts on some of the issues brought up, even if I
7791don't necessarily agree with them all. But this randomness is just so
7792juvenile, if I wanted to read this kind of thing I would join a bad poetry
7793news group!
7794
7795Yeah, so I'm grumpy from sacrificing almost all my sleep to write a paper
7796that I am still going to have to turn in late.
7797
7798Funny, I seem to be in the same mood for the same cause. Then again I find I
7799actually write better at 3:00 am. Two out of three Essays are done, all of
7800which are due in about three hours! Maybe I should stop procrastinating on
7801that last one and get down to work!
7802Carrie
7803
7804We faren as he that dronke is as a mous.
7805A dronke man woot wel he hath a hous,
7806But he noot which the righte wey is thider,
7807And to a dronke man th way is slider.
7808And certes, in this world so faren we.
7809We seken faste after felicitee,
7810But we goon wrong ful often trewely.
7811 -G. Chaucer _Knight's Tale_
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7817From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 18:43:09 2000
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7820From: "j450n Morales" <neurodancer@hotmail.com>
7821To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
7822Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
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7835
7836That was quick.
7837
7838
7839~ neurodancer ~ newer waver ~
7840if(!kill(self))
7841 self.strength++;
7842
7843
7844>From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com> Subject: [SFG] hooray
7845>for Eric B!!! Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:16:31 -0700
7846>
7847>I like Eric B. How is he a criminal? I would rate him less annoying >then a
7848>lot
7849>of people on the list.
7850>
7851>Katy
7852
7853
7854>From: "the cute monster" <rebelrebel@tromaville.com>
7855>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:23:05 -0700
7856>
7857>Eric B has just reached the point of bad evil in my book. I didn't mind it
7858>when one random and mysterious person was randomly and infrequently posting
7859>"deep thoughts", but enough is enough. Eric B!! I hope you are reading this
7860>because you started this thing and it is all your fault! I am sick of
7861>hearing like ten random people sending out several random "deep thoughts" a
7862>day. Maybe the "deep thoughts" people need to start their own list so they
7863>can fill each other's inboxes with "deep thoughts" all day.
7864>
7865>Just my suggestion.
7866>
7867>Katy
7868
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7878From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 19:43:32 2000
7879MIME-Version: 1.0
7880From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
7881To: "SFGOTH List \(E-mail\)" <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
7882Subject: [SFG] Things to do....
7883Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:36:42 -0700
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7899
7900
7901I still think we should sub that trio onto an OneList group, force add them
7902to that.. then add that list to one of those hyper active anime listserves
7903(the ones that seem to get 450 posts a day).
7904
7905Its not so much that I mind fluff, or even crap posts.. but most folks on
7906this list that post fluff at least respond when questioned on it. I am just
7907to used to the class structure we have here.. there are the MASS amounts of
7908Lurkers that never post, there are the Lurkers that post once in a blue moon
7909(but they respond when questioned), and then there are the day to day
7910posting folks like me, IronChuck, Bella, Zoe, Brandon, Perki, Eric G., 10K
7911Michael, Kim Baldwin, the list for that group goes on. (Please ignore all
7912run-on sentences and grammar errors.. I seem to be).
7913
7914Its just the Bot like postings that I don't like.. its like talking to an
7915NPC in some computer game.. scripted responses at given times.. I swear..
7916it was more fun to make C^rtman talk on IRC.
7917
7918Yes Brandon I know you said to ignore them... and you even posted a nice
7919kill file string for those that run unix like mail programs.. but it is much
7920more fun to just complain to 300 people about it.
7921
7922
7923
7924P.S. Eric G... HAHAHA you missed it!!! Starscream was on Beast Wars today..
7925and you didn't see it....
7926Just had to add that.
7927
7928
7929Tzeentch
7930Not Changing to Many Ways Today
7931Tzeentch@home.com
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7938From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 20:16:34 2000
7939MIME-Version: 1.0
7940From: DrkValntyn@aol.com
7941Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:09:40 EDT
7942Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
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7955
7956<<Maybe the "deep thoughts" people need to start their own list so they
7957can fill each other's inboxes with "deep thoughts" all day.>>
7958
7959Dammit! I agree! I too am tired of the crap. It was interesting even at first...now I just go through and delete....I'm wondering though....are these copy-cats one and the same as our infamous Eric B??? Hmmmm??? Go somewhere else please, I have enough email to weed through as it is.
7960Taysanna
7961
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7968From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 20:52:15 2000
7969MIME-Version: 1.0
7970From: Carpet7@aol.com
7971Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:45:56 EDT
7972Subject: [SFG] Eric Bogosian
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7985
7986Has anyone else noticed that Eric B.'s writing style/content bears a striking
7987resemblance to the playwright Eric Bogosian? I found it interesting, as I am
7988a huge fan of Bogosian, and especially since our friend Eric B.'s email
7989address is ericb333. Perhaps, he is a dedicated fan as well. It could be
7990that his "deep thoughts" are none other but fictional monologues fashioned
7991after a great playwright- in which case Eric B. should be directed to
7992*another* list. <shrug> Who really knows- people will still gripe
7993about/commend his "works". Just a thought.
7994
7995L.
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8001From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 6 23:29:40 2000
8002MIME-Version: 1.0
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8004From: "Grant" <preyforme@hotmail.com>
8005To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
8006Subject: Re: [SFG] Eric Bogosian
8007Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:25:53 -0400
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8022
8023
8024You're EricB I assume?
8025
8026~G~
8027
8028----- Original Message -----
8029From: <Carpet7@aol.com>
8030To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
8031Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 8:45 PM
8032Subject: [SFG] Eric Bogosian
8033
8034
8035>
8036> Has anyone else noticed that Eric B.'s writing style/content bears a
8037striking
8038> resemblance to the playwright Eric Bogosian? I found it interesting, as I
8039am
8040> a huge fan of Bogosian, and especially since our friend Eric B.'s email
8041> address is ericb333. Perhaps, he is a dedicated fan as well. It could be
8042> that his "deep thoughts" are none other but fictional monologues fashioned
8043> after a great playwright- in which case Eric B. should be directed to
8044> *another* list. <shrug> Who really knows- people will still gripe
8045> about/commend his "works". Just a thought.
8046>
8047> L.
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8059From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 02:10:47 2000
8060MIME-Version: 1.0
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8062From: "Fernando Orozco" <fsoii@hotmail.com>
8063To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8064Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
8065Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 06:04:34 GMT
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8077
8078Damn, Jason. Eat a salad or something. Having a bad week? I think maybe you
8079are trying out to be Brandon jr., kinda like Jo Jo is with Eric B.
8080And Eric B., I have one question for you. Where's Rakim?
8081
8082~Fernando~
8083Just bitter he is not the best scratch DJ on the list anymore.
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8092From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 11:58:30 2000
8093MIME-Version: 1.0
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8095From: "Shadow Phredd" <shadowphredd@hotmail.com>
8096To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8097Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
8098Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:51:07 GMT
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8109
8110
8111I suppose I'm a realist; I don't think my life was simpler & more innocent
8112then.
8113
8114I'm just free now. My life is as simple & innocent as I want it to be.
8115
8116-Phredd
8117
8118danielle <ikestrel@uclink4.berkeley.edu> queried:
8119>
8120>Actually I did have a question. It's a common idea nowadays that the lost
8121>innocence of childhood and simplicity are to be longed for. How many
8122>people actually think we had it better as babys, and how many think we
8123>romanticize?
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8133From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 00:48:24 2000
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8136From: "tis BeRnIe" <tis_bernie@hotmail.com>
8137To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8138Subject: Re: [SFG] I have given in to the dark side
8139Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 04:43:03 GMT
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8150
8151
8152This is advice that no child should be without:
8153
8154You are not special
8155You will not accomplish anything extraordinary
8156You will fail and we WILL laugh at you
8157You ARE pathetic, and it shows
8158
8159I am ashamed to have contributed to your genetics
8160You are worthless
8161Spare the air and do yourself off now
8162If you ammount to anything, it won't be much.
8163
8164And it is
8165within these times
8166that we see
8167just who we
8168really are.
8169
8170Because with our journeys
8171to the far
8172we've gone thru the mirror
8173to the stars.
8174
8175If I burn brighter
8176I can watch it
8177all burn,
8178burn from above
8179with awe.
8180
8181And if I burn lighter
8182I can watch it
8183all freeze,
8184until time dies.
8185
8186Because I was
8187brought unto you
8188with undieing passion
8189for the end
8190of reality today.
8191
8192That is why
8193when time came
8194to be,
8195I was.
8196
8197- Dave
8198 ...
8199
8200Deep thoughts? No, they are observations and the expanded thoughts that came
8201with them.
8202
8203They are only annoying if you allow them to be.
8204
8205I will NEVER be on the crowds page... OK I might some day.
8206
8207I will never unsub... wait, that was perki's line...
8208
8209They are NOT incoherant, they are the oposite, they are ultra coherant, and
8210moron can understand exactly what he's saying. they are RANDOM. They have no
8211real purpose or relation to anything.
8212
8213Copy cats, you will always be less than the original; which wasn't much to
8214begin with. Unless of course you do it better.
8215
8216This would be a one liner if this was the only line.
8217
8218The more you shout of how you do not care, the more it is evident that you
8219do.
8220
8221Yes the above poem should have went to the writers list. Fuck off.
8222
8223If you read this far, you should be aware that you've come to the end of the
8224road. Now go have a cookie.
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8233From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 19:10:53 2000
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8236From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
8237To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8238Subject: [SFG] ps
8239Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:07:55 EDT
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8251
8252Whoever unsubscribed me: fuck you.
8253
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8262From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 19:25:06 2000
8263MIME-Version: 1.0
8264Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:19:54 -0700 (PDT)
8265From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
8266Subject: Re: [SFG] coffee
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8279
8280
8281
8282--- Eric B <ericb333@hotmail.com> wrote:
8283
8284> If I had a tumor in my rectum I wouldn't be able to
8285> think about
8286> anything else. The whole world would disappear,
8287> everything would go
8288> away except my asshole.
8289
8290Kinda like a cockroach.
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8305=====
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8317From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 19:43:21 2000
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8319X-Sent: 7 Apr 2000 23:40:42 GMT
8320Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 16:44:00 -0700
8321From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
8322X-Accept-Language: en
8323To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8324Subject: Re: [SFG] coffee
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8335
8336
8337Wow Eric. You've improved your bowel movements. Will you go out with me now?
8338Cuz there's nothing, and I mean NOTHING more attractive than a man who's
8339regular. Did you cover yourself in vaseline like I told you to?
8340
8341Eric B wrote:
8342
8343> I've stopped drinking coffee and I feel better already. My bowel
8344> movements have improved, probably because of the increased water in my
8345> system.
8346>
8347> Coffee has a diuretic effect.
8348>
8349> If I had a tumor in my rectum I wouldn't be able to think about
8350> anything else. The whole world would disappear, everything would go
8351> away except my asshole.
8352
8353--
8354"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
8355Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
8356 -Industrial 101
8357
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8364From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 7 23:04:32 2000
8365MIME-Version: 1.0
8366Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:54:39 -0700
8367From: saktii@pacbell.net
8368Subject: [SFG] Speaking of being unsubscribed...
8369To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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8380
8381
8382Somehow, I was unsubscribed as well.
8383If someone did it to me on purpose, then i'm very hurt (especially
8384because I've met some of you and you were very nice to me)
8385But if my having been unsubscribed had something to do with the fact
8386that they did an inactive email check recently, then forgive me my
8387geriatric ramblings.
8388Could anyone tell me why I was unsubscribed?
8389
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8395From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sat Apr 8 03:19:26 2000
8396MIME-Version: 1.0
8397From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
8398To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
8399Subject: RE: [SFG] ps
8400Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:16:08 -0700
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8417
8418
8419HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8420HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8421HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
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8424HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8425HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8426HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8427HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8428HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8429HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA
8430
8431
8432
8433Um.. no it wasn't me.. I don't have that kind of power.. but oh my god is
8434that funny
8435
8436Tzeentch
8437The Changer of Ways
8438Tzeentch@home.com
8439
8440-----Original Message-----
8441From: owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com [mailto:owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com] On Behalf Of
8442Eric B
8443Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 4:08 PM
8444To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8445Subject: [SFG] ps
8446
8447
8448Whoever unsubscribed me: fuck you.
8449
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8462
8463From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Sun Apr 9 15:37:31 2000
8464MIME-Version: 1.0
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8466From: "j450n Morales" <neurodancer@hotmail.com>
8467To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8468Subject: Re: [SFG] membership
8469Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 19:32:59 GMT
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8480
8481
8482Does this mean it's over?
8483
8484>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
8485>on their minds and they are doing you a favor by smiling. I bet
8486>Hitler's SS had the same look on their faces.
8487
8488
8489~ neurodancer ~ newer waver ~
8490if(!kill(self))
8491 self.strength++;
8492
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8500
8501From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 04:06:22 2000
8502MIME-Version: 1.0
8503Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:59:31 -0700
8504From: Badger <thebadger@earthlink.net>
8505Organization: Scar Machine
8506X-Accept-Language: en
8507To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8508Subject: Re: [SFG] membership
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8519
8520
8521
8522
8523Eric B wrote:
8524
8525> They smil a small tight smile like they have something very important
8526> on their minds and they are doing you a favor by smiling. I bet
8527> Hitler's SS had the same look on their faces.
8528
8529Congratulations. You've managed to invoke the Hitler rule on yourself before
8530this
8531stupid thread of yours went on too long.
8532
8533
8534Now shut the fuck up.
8535
8536
8537--
8538
8539 Badger
8540
8541 >>Badger's Warren<< : http://home.earthlink.net/~thebadger
8542
8543 "And just when i think
8544 that things are in their place
8545 the heavens are secure
8546 the whole thing blows up in my face"
8547
8548
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8553
8554From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 20:11:05 2000
8555MIME-Version: 1.0
8556Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
8557From: "E.Villedame" <elenorevilledame@yahoo.com>
8558Subject: Re: [SFG] geekranting (was: weekend...etc)
8559To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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8570
8571
8572the ever upbeat Matthew spat:
8573
8574> Romantic aura my ass.
8575
8576Why yes, darling Matthew, now that you mention
8577it, in the right light, your ass *does* invoke
8578thoughts of roses, chocolates, and poetry...
8579
8580Heh.
8581
8582General statements 'cause I'm busy:
8583
8584Newbies, sit back and read a bit longer to get
8585the vibe of the list before posting.
8586
8587Cool folks, inside jokes get old. Really quick.
8588Yeah, you're cool. Who cares?
8589
8590Jack Handy wannabes: die
8591
8592Laurelei
8593bitch du jour who will *kill* the next rat
8594bastard who cleans their windows on the freeway
8595in front of me, thereby fucking up mine
8596
8597=====
8598____________________________________________________________________________
8599"I am a woman meant for a man, but I never met a man who could compete." --Bette Davis
8600
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8609
8610From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 21:02:25 2000
8611MIME-Version: 1.0
8612From: DrkValntyn@aol.com
8613Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:55:14 EDT
8614Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating
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8626
8627
8628ENOUGH!
8629This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was amused.
8630But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I don't
8631mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation, or
8632otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one who
8633feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I usually
8634check all my mail, and delete if it's of no interest. But one line from you
8635is enough. Just stop. If I wanted to know about yours, or anyones sexual
8636habits, I would ask. This is not funny anymore. It's not even ignorable
8637anymore. It's completely over the line. And Yes, I've had a long day, and I'm
8638tired, and therefore a little cranky. But YOU made it worse. Eric B whoever
8639you are....give it up. I think that most of us are not amused anymore.
8640
8641Disgustedly,
8642Taysanna
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8648From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 21:14:38 2000
8649MIME-Version: 1.0
8650X-Sender: phoenix-alliance@pop.batnet.com
8651Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:12:55 -0700
8652To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8653From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
8654Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating
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8666
8667
8668At 08:55 PM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
8669>
8670>ENOUGH!
8671>This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was amused.
8672>But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I don't
8673>mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation, or
8674>otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one who
8675>feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I usually
8676
8677
8678
8679It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
8680Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that end~
8681
8682Bella
8683
8684---------------------------------------
8685*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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8691
8692From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 21:20:12 2000
8693MIME-Version: 1.0
8694Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:36:19 -0700 (PDT)
8695From: <ben@ultraswank.com>
8696To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8697Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating
8698In-Reply-To: <77.2e25e6d.2623d1f2@aol.com>
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8709
8710
8711I'm guessing this was in response to an Eric B post correct? Dear you
8712must get introduced to the wonderful world of filtering. Ain't no way to
8713make the little troll go away, but you can automate ignoring him.
8714
8715-Ben Newman
8716
8717Zorak does not like R.E.M. with the bald weirdo flailing about and is
8718irked when no one offers alternatives in modern times.
8719 -- Zorak, evil space mantis
8720
8721
8722On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 DrkValntyn@aol.com wrote:
8723
8724>
8725> ENOUGH!
8726> This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was amused.
8727> But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I don't
8728> mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation, or
8729> otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one who
8730> feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I usually
8731> check all my mail, and delete if it's of no interest. But one line from you
8732> is enough. Just stop. If I wanted to know about yours, or anyones sexual
8733> habits, I would ask. This is not funny anymore. It's not even ignorable
8734> anymore. It's completely over the line. And Yes, I've had a long day, and I'm
8735> tired, and therefore a little cranky. But YOU made it worse. Eric B whoever
8736> you are....give it up. I think that most of us are not amused anymore.
8737>
8738> Disgustedly,
8739> Taysanna
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8751From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 21:26:57 2000
8752MIME-Version: 1.0
8753X-Originating-IP: [216.230.100.83]
8754From: "GAF Dncing" <gafdncing@hotmail.com>
8755To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8756Subject: Re: [SFG] ps
8757Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:18:01 PDT
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8768
8769
8770This made me laugh out loud. Now my co-workers who are all still saying
8771they are going to masturbate but never seem to (at least I haven't seen them
8772and they're all still bitchy) think I'm nuts.
8773
8774So,
8775
8776STOP BEING SO DAMN FUNNY EVERYBODY!
8777
8778It's bad for my reputation...
8779
8780Dancing
8781
8782http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=dncing4thedevil
8783
8784
8785----Original Message Follows----
8786From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
8787Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8788To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8789Subject: [SFG] ps
8790Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 19:07:55 EDT
8791
8792
8793Whoever unsubscribed me: fuck you.
8794
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8803
8804Dancing
8805
8806http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=dncing4thedevil
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8816From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 21:47:12 2000
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8819Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
8820From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
8821To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8822Subject: Re: [SFG] Trolls.
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8834
8835
8836
8837
8838 Fascism.
8839
8840 Removing someone in this manner goes against everything
8841 I stand for. This would be a petty act, and one that
8842 bespeaks a cowardice on many levels.
8843
8844 There are mail filters.
8845
8846
8847 Ignore if you choose; silence never.
8848
8849
8850
8851
8852On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Eric Gottesman wrote:
8853
8854>
8855> Yeah I know I'm over my limit. And I'll be at Deathguild.
8856> Question: Is it possible to have certain trolls (whose status we now
8857> seem to have consensus on) involuntarily removed from the list? I mean,
8858> this is getting ridiculous. And yes I know I can click past it, but a
8859> lot of people are using web-based email for list mail, and one more
8860> click can be a bitch. Besides, it doesn't matter how little of a
8861> nuisance it is; we shouldn't have to put up with it at all.
8862> Shit. I'm missing simpsons.
8863>
8864> --
8865> "When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of
8866> angry Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
8867> -Industrial 101
8868>
8869>
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8884From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 22:08:28 2000
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8889Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:56:36 -0700
8890To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8891From: Peter Bierman <lunatic@cs.wisc.edu>
8892Subject: Re: [SFG] Trolls.
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8902
8903
8904>Yeah I know I'm over my limit. And I'll be at Deathguild.
8905>Question: Is it possible to have certain trolls (whose status we now
8906>seem to have consensus on) involuntarily removed from the list? I mean,
8907>this is getting ridiculous. And yes I know I can click past it, but a
8908>lot of people are using web-based email for list mail, and one more
8909>click can be a bitch. Besides, it doesn't matter how little of a
8910>nuisance it is; we shouldn't have to put up with it at all.
8911
8912
8913I already zapped him once, he just resubbed (and bitched about the
8914indignity of being given the boot.)
8915
8916I could put a filter against his email address, but he'd just create a new one.
8917
8918In short, as long as there are free email services like hotmail, there's
8919pretty much nothing that can be done using our current system.
8920
8921Please don't reply to his posts. It just feeds the troll.
8922
8923Brandon H. wrote:
8924> Fascism.
8925>
8926> Removing someone in this manner goes against everything
8927> I stand for. This would be a petty act, and one that
8928> bespeaks a cowardice on many levels.
8929
8930
8931Well, call me a fascist, since I just removed him from the list *again*.
8932
8933There's an entire Internet worth of free speech out there. This mailing
8934list is for discussions (implying two or more people) about San Francisco
8935goth-related topics.
8936
8937Eric B's posts fail to be relevent to this list. Plus, he's a blatent,
8938shameless troll, which pisses me off to no end because it's some asshole
8939who thinks he's being clever when in fact he's wasting too much of MY
8940precious time without my permission.
8941
8942So Brandon, you're free to create the "Eric B List" at onelist.
8943
8944-pmb
8945
8946--
8947Ring around the Internet, | Peter Bierman <pmb@pez.com>
8948Packet with a bit not set | http://www.mycds.com/pmb/
8949SYN ACK SYN ACK, |"Nobody realizes that some people expend
8950We all go down. -A. Stern | tremendous energy merely to be normal."-Al Camus
8951
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8958From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Mon Apr 10 23:13:54 2000
8959MIME-Version: 1.0
8960Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:02:37 -0700
8961From: Michael Mierzwa <mmierzwa@ix.netcom.com>
8962Organization: Mon Calamari Diplomatic Mission
8963To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
8964Subject: Re: [SFG] Trolls.
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8975
8976
8977The Gods Must Be Crazy ... and so am I.
8978
8979
8980
8981On Trolls / Filters:
8982
8983Peter Bierman wrote:
8984>
8985> I could put a filter against his email address, but he'd just create a new one.
8986
8987Right!
8988
8989Doing that would mean those of us that took matters in our own hands and
8990added this troll to our own killfilters would have to do it again.
8991Exactly, just ask people to use their own judgement and give him/her
8992zero attention. Trolls / Flame Wars / Assholes, all about the same
8993thing. They swell when giving attention.
8994
8995Frankly I blame the people who continue to respond to his posts (now
8996including myself for saying this) for the continuing problem.
8997
8998> Please don't reply to his posts. It just feeds the troll.
8999
9000Here is how I set up my killfilter using Netscrape 4.0:
9001
90021. Pull down the <Edit> menu.
90032. Select the <Mail Filters> option.
90043. Click on the <New> button.
90054. Name the filter, try "Eric B".
90065. Leave the next two combo boxes set to "sender" and "contains".
90076. Put the email address of the troll in the next box,
9008 try "ericb333@hotmail.com".
90097. Leave the "Move to folder" or choose the "Delete" option.
90108. If you choose "move to folder", then select "Trash".
90119. Click on the <OK> button.
9012
9013I've done this in the past for other people whom I got tired of. There
9014is nothing wrong about using a killfilter. It is not fascist. In fact,
9015it is a rather level headed, mature and responsible thing to do.
9016
9017[Yes, I know I shouldn't have used Eric's stats above, but I really want
9018the people bitching about him to stop feeding his/her need for
9019attention, thankyoudamnit! I've done your homework, now copy it
9020please.]
9021
9022
9023
9024
9025
9026On Name Calling:
9027
9028
9029> > Fascism.
9030> >
9031> > Removing someone in this manner goes against everything
9032> > I stand for. This would be a petty act, and one that
9033> > bespeaks a cowardice on many levels.
9034>
9035> Well, call me a fascist, since I just removed him from the list *again*.
9036
9037Peter, I hardly would call you a fascist for this.
9038
9039I'd have to know you better to make that call.
9040:)
9041Do you stand tall?
9042Do you hide your emotions?
9043Consider yourself hyper rational (NT personalities often)?
9044Are you an obsessive compulsive?
9045Do you wear fooking huge stomping boots?
9046Does the phrase, "Lick my boots" ... ooops wrong list. *grin*
9047Do you love to march, stomp, and strike when you dance?
9048When asked, do you label your tastes as more Industrial?
9049Vorlon or Shadow? Vorlon scores major fascist points.
9050Do you like to wear uniforms, even at home? ;)
9051
9052
9053Though I personally think it is wrong to KICK / BAN people. I know
9054other people who regularly do it. I'm not sure how that is any
9055different. Does this speak to their own cowardice? Or is it different
9056when they do it?
9057
9058I'd hate to think people would accuse others who provide a service to
9059this community of being something based on essentially kicking a troll,
9060__and__ practice the same exact behavior on a non-troll. Shame! That
9061is wrong. Give Peter and the other list maintainers a fucking break.
9062
9063This kind of double standard speaks more to a person's character than
9064kicking, banning, unsubbing does. At least in my book. And like Tycho
9065before me, I'm pretty sure the universe revolves around the Earth,
9066because I'm here, which means it revolves around __me__!
9067
9068> Eric B's posts fail to be relevent to this list. Plus, he's a blatent,
9069> shameless troll, which pisses me off to no end because it's some asshole
9070> who thinks he's being clever when in fact he's wasting too much of MY
9071> precious time without my permission.
9072
9073Well, it is your list. That is the key here too! Yours. Not mine, not
9074Eric's, not really anybody else's.
9075
9076I understood the reason for the 2 post limit, and current 3 post limit.
9077And I respect those decisions.
9078I had my own opinions, but this is still a private email list.
9079
9080I appreciate your justifications to us all, but please know that there
9081are some of us that actually appreciate the moral difficulty you face
9082and understand some of this.
9083
9084There are a handful of listies I wouldn't ever invite to my home. A
9085growing number I really don't want in my Mustang. Banning them hardly
9086makes me a fascist (though the boots, marching, OC behavior, music, and
9087a love of uniforms ... hmmm). *snicker*
9088
9089So all you bitter fish heads, if you want to call people fascists:
9090(1) ask the relevant questions,
9091(2) carry around mirrors, even vampires have reflections,
9092(3) buy them cool medals to wear! :)
9093
9094Michael
9095P.S. I know what I did and said. Yup, not a brillant move, but I
9096honestly think Peter and co. need our support right NOW. If anybody has
9097a problem with my __opinion__, don't expect me to reply, as I'm now
9098adding this thread to my subject killfilter. So pluck yew! :p
9099--
9100
9101Philosopher by day, Magician Among the Spirits by night
9102"It's not my fault!"
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9108From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 01:50:46 2000
9109MIME-Version: 1.0
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9111From: "tis BeRnIe" <tis_bernie@hotmail.com>
9112To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9113Subject: Re: [SFG] Trolls.
9114Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:44:38 GMT
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9125
9126
9127
9128I concur with Brandon,
9129
9130 that and hotmail, which I'm using for list mail
9131 has filters that are better than Netscapes in my
9132 opinion. Cause I can figure out how to make more
9133 than ONE filter work... grrrr....
9134
9135- Dave
9136 ...If I do the paragraph thing does it make ME cool!?
9137
9138>From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
9139
9140> Fascism.
9141
9142> > Yeah I know I'm over my limit. And I'll be at Deathguild.
9143> > Question: Is it possible to have certain trolls (whose status we now
9144> > seem to have consensus on) involuntarily removed from the list? I mean,
9145> > this is getting ridiculous. And yes I know I can click past it, but a
9146> > lot of people are using web-based email for list mail, and one more
9147> > click can be a bitch. Besides, it doesn't matter how little of a
9148> > nuisance it is; we shouldn't have to put up with it at all.
9149> > Shit. I'm missing simpsons.
9150> >
9151> > --
9152> > "When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of
9153> > angry Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
9154> > -Industrial 101
9155> >
9156> >
9157> >
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9183From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 06:07:09 2000
9184MIME-Version: 1.0
9185From: ross@roundpeg.com
9186To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9187Subject: RE: [SFG] Trolls.
9188Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 03:00:50 -0700
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9200
9201
9202despite my differences with Mr. PusFilledGoatTesticles, i have to concur...
9203there are few venues left that people can voice themselves against the
9204tyranny of the majority
9205and there is nothing a zealot loves more than persecution...
9206it makes them feel justified in their rage, and powerful in their stupidity
9207yes, there is no profundity in fecundity, and Eric B has overplayed his/her
9208hand.
9209once was funny, the second was amusing... the rest was less than boring.
9210there is a time and place for everything,
9211to know that is wisdom, to use it is Art. Feng shui, dear boi.
9212Trolls have their place too (would Gandalf have Glamdring if not for killing
9213some Trolls?)
9214
9215 -Ross
9216(who read the Silmarillion in 3rd grade, and even reading it again many
9217years later, still couldn't keep track of who is who in that damned book
9218without a score card....everybody kept changing their freekin' names every
9219time something happened to them...jeez!)
9220
9221
9222>> Fascism.
9223>> Removing someone in this manner goes against everything
9224>> I stand for. This would be a petty act, and one that
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9230From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 11:22:18 2000
9231MIME-Version: 1.0
9232X-Authentication-Warning: elohim.gaijin.com: bharris owned process doing -bs
9233Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:14:15 -0700 (PDT)
9234From: Brandon Harris <bharris@gaijin.com>
9235To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9236Subject: RE: [SFG] Trolls.
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9249
9250On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 ross@roundpeg.com wrote:
9251
9252>
9253> despite my differences with Mr. PusFilledGoatTesticles,
9254
9255
9256 Dude.
9257
9258 Bring it on or shut the fuck up.
9259
9260
9261
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9270From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 14:48:11 2000
9271MIME-Version: 1.0
9272X-Originating-IP: [63.80.205.17]
9273From: "Adrienne A." <battymama@hotmail.com>
9274To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9275Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating wannabe writer
9276Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:38:39 GMT
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9287
9288
9289It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this list.
9290And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out of
9291a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet he
9292can't even masturbate without tweezers.
9293And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
9294feeding him.
9295And I'm laughing my ass off.
9296
9297:)
9298
9299
9300>From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
9301>Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9302>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9303>Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating
9304>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:12:55 -0700
9305>
9306>
9307>At 08:55 PM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
9308> >
9309> >ENOUGH!
9310> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
9311>amused.
9312> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
9313>don't
9314> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation,
9315>or
9316> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one who
9317> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I usually
9318>
9319>
9320>
9321>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
9322>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
9323>end~
9324>
9325>Bella
9326>
9327>---------------------------------------
9328>*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
9329>--------------------------------------
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9343From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:05:09 2000
9344MIME-Version: 1.0
9345X-Originating-IP: [208.192.78.18]
9346From: "Youth in Asia" <spongy666@hotmail.com>
9347To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9348Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating wannabe writer
9349Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:57:07 AKDT
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9360
9361
9362Why not do what I've already done; use "block sender" (or whatever the
9363equivalent is for all you non-Hotmail users)!
9364
9365Egan >:>
9366
9367----Original Message Follows----
9368From: "Adrienne A." <battymama@hotmail.com>
9369Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9370To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9371Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating wannabe writer
9372Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:38:39 GMT
9373
9374
9375It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this list.
9376And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out of
9377a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet he
9378can't even masturbate without tweezers.
9379And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
9380feeding him.
9381And I'm laughing my ass off.
9382
9383:)
9384
9385
9386>From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
9387>Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9388>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9389>Subject: Re: [SFG] masturbating
9390>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:12:55 -0700
9391>
9392>
9393>At 08:55 PM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
9394> >
9395> >ENOUGH!
9396> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
9397>amused.
9398> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
9399>don't
9400> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation,
9401>or
9402> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one who
9403> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I usually
9404>
9405>
9406>
9407>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
9408>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
9409>end~
9410>
9411>Bella
9412>
9413>---------------------------------------
9414>*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
9415>--------------------------------------
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9436
9437From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:06:24 2000
9438MIME-Version: 1.0
9439X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
9440From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
9441To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9442Subject: [SFG] yawn
9443Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:00:18 EDT
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9454
9455
9456Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
9457trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
9458
9459Finish it yourself:
9460
9461http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
9462http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9463
9464Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
9465
9466Ta,
9467Eric
9468
9469>It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this
9470>list.
9471>And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out
9472>of
9473>a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet
9474>he
9475>can't even masturbate without tweezers.
9476>And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
9477>feeding him.
9478>And I'm laughing my ass off.
9479>
9480>:)
9481>
9482>> >
9483>> >ENOUGH!
9484>> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
9485>>amused.
9486>> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
9487>>don't
9488>> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces, masterbation,
9489>>or
9490>> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one
9491>>who
9492>> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I
9493>>usually
9494>>
9495>>
9496>>
9497>>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
9498>>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
9499>>end~
9500>>
9501>>Bella
9502>>
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9510
9511From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:20:34 2000
9512MIME-Version: 1.0
9513Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
9514From: Blud Pudle <bludpudle@yahoo.com>
9515Subject: [SFG] *yawn* - an open letter to "ericb" and any other who wants to see.
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9527
9528
9529my one and only direct response ot the troll who calls
9530himself Eric B.
9531
95321) I dont care if you're really eric bogosian or not.
9533
95342) I dont care if you're famous or not.
9535
95363) I don't like your writing, never have.
9537
95384) Thank you for knocking it off.
9539
95405) A lesson for the future mister. In forums like this
9541it is a good idea to see what the prevailing mood is,
9542then try messing with it from there. Think of lists as
9543petri dishes for playing in, not as fertile ground for
9544fresh creation. here are brains for fooling with and
9545twisting, a test bed as it were for ideas. If it
9546doesnt work, you stop, if it DOES work, you stop, take
9547it back, refine it, and use it somewhere else.
9548
9549Thank you.
9550Drive Through.
9551
9552-=perki
9553
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9563From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:21:06 2000
9564MIME-Version: 1.0
9565Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:11:35 -0700
9566From: Badger <thebadger@earthlink.net>
9567X-Accept-Language: en
9568To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9569Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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9580
9581
9582
9583
9584Eric B wrote:
9585
9586> Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
9587> trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
9588>
9589> Finish it yourself:
9590>
9591> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
9592> http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9593>
9594> Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
9595
9596So what is this supposed to mean? Are we to understand that you're Eric
9597Bogosian? And your postings here are, what, bad excerpts from your shitty little
9598book? Trolling for sales, eh?
9599
9600Either this, or you *want* to be Eric Bogosian.
9601
9602Whatever. Either way, so long. Don't let the door his your ass on the way out.
9603
9604-badger
9605--
9606"The difference between tattooed and non-tattooed people is that
9607we don't care if you're not tattooed."
9608
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9615From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:26:51 2000
9616MIME-Version: 1.0
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9618Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:26:11 -0700
9619To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9620From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
9621Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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9633
9634
9635At 03:00 PM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote:
9636>
9637>Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
9638>trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
9639>
9640>Finish it yourself:
9641>
9642>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
9643>http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9644>
9645>Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
9646>
9647>Ta,
9648>Eric
9649
9650
9651two words:
9652
9653as if
9654
9655two more:
9656
9657Buh bye!
9658
9659Bella
9660---------------------------------------
9661*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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9668From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:28:59 2000
9669MIME-Version: 1.0
9670X-Originating-IP: [63.80.205.17]
9671From: "Adrienne A." <battymama@hotmail.com>
9672To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9673Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
9674Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:24:51 GMT
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9685
9686
9687awwww... I think someone is feeling a little...busted?
9688Poor wittew "Eric B."
9689*still laughing my ass off*
9690
9691Good try at bowing out gracefully btw
9692What a LOSER.
9693
9694>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
9695>Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9696>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9697>Subject: [SFG] yawn
9698>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:00:18 EDT
9699>
9700>
9701>Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
9702>trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
9703>
9704>Finish it yourself:
9705>
9706>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
9707>http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9708>
9709>Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
9710>
9711>Ta,
9712>Eric
9713>
9714>>It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this
9715>>list.
9716>>And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out
9717>>of
9718>>a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet
9719>>he
9720>>can't even masturbate without tweezers.
9721>>And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
9722>>feeding him.
9723>>And I'm laughing my ass off.
9724>>
9725>>:)
9726>>
9727>>> >
9728>>> >ENOUGH!
9729>>> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
9730>>>amused.
9731>>> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
9732>>>don't
9733>>> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces,
9734>>>masterbation,
9735>>>or
9736>>> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one
9737>>>who
9738>>> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I
9739>>>usually
9740>>>
9741>>>
9742>>>
9743>>>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
9744>>>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
9745>>>end~
9746>>>
9747>>>Bella
9748>>>
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9764
9765From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:49:35 2000
9766MIME-Version: 1.0
9767Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:46:14 -0500
9768From: shoe <ilatif@houston.rr.com>
9769Organization: Ninja Death Squad
9770X-Accept-Language: en
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9772Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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9784
9785Eric B wrote:
9786
9787> http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9788
9789
9790all i have to say is he wrote subUrbia. well if this is all true anyway.
9791i've been wanting to see who was responsible for that crap. don't be
9792confusing your shit with the good suburbia from 1984. yo, i'm down for
9793finding his ass and having a boot party! eh, j/k.
9794
9795shoe
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9800
9801From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 15:58:21 2000
9802MIME-Version: 1.0
9803In-Reply-To: <20000411192451.48186.qmail@hotmail.com>
9804Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:25:50 -0700
9805To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9806From: Carli Schultz <carli@organic.com>
9807Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
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9818
9819
9820>awwww... I think someone is feeling a little...busted?
9821>Poor wittew "Eric B."
9822>*still laughing my ass off*
9823>
9824>Good try at bowing out gracefully btw
9825>What a LOSER.
9826>
9827if hes even still here, like he cares.
9828heh.
9829
9830car
9831--------------------------------------------->>>
9832House of the Moon Carli Schultz
9833http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
9834 San Francisco
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9840From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:31:57 2000
9841Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
9842From: John M Vinopal <banshee@abattoir.com>
9843To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9844Subject: [SFG] I LOVE ERICB!
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9855
9856
9857God you people are easily baited. Although on a 300 person list, its
9858like morning traffic, it only take 3% to generate 10 followups and spread
9859the ill will wide. At least he was more entertaining than this web-generator
9860said my penis was in the shape of Danny DeVito or _whatever_ the fuck that
9861was.
9862
9863Anyhow, on to content. The Crowne has sold out for Convergence and I'm
9864wondering which of the other hotels is within close proximity of the stuff.
9865Please mail me directly, I'll summarize for the list if anyone cares.
9866
9867-j
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9873From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:32:11 2000
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9876From: "Grant" <preyforme@hotmail.com>
9877To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
9878Cc: <ericb333@hotmail.com>
9879Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
9880Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:26:03 -0400
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9895
9896
9897Yah know, I met the real Eric Bogosian before. He was doing a performance
9898along with a lot of other poets on New Years Eve (98'-99') in the SOHO
9899district on Manhatten.
9900
9901I can't say I know him well, but having met him I feel confident enough to
9902say, son, your are no Eric Bogosian.
9903
9904The real one would not just post and then not discuss. Hell, the real one
9905wouldn't blindly post to some list at all. But if he did, I could tell just
9906from meeting him that he would definately engage and interact. Discuss.
9907
9908But you can't do that, since you aren't Eric Bogosian.
9909
9910~G~
9911
9912----- Original Message -----
9913From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
9914To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
9915Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:00 PM
9916Subject: [SFG] yawn
9917
9918
9919>
9920> Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
9921> trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
9922>
9923> Finish it yourself:
9924>
9925> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
9926> http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
9927>
9928> Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
9929>
9930> Ta,
9931> Eric
9932>
9933> >It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this
9934> >list.
9935> >And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out
9936> >of
9937> >a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet
9938> >he
9939> >can't even masturbate without tweezers.
9940> >And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
9941> >feeding him.
9942> >And I'm laughing my ass off.
9943> >
9944> >:)
9945> >
9946> >> >
9947> >> >ENOUGH!
9948> >> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
9949> >>amused.
9950> >> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
9951> >>don't
9952> >> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces,
9953masterbation,
9954> >>or
9955> >> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one
9956> >>who
9957> >> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I
9958> >>usually
9959> >>
9960> >>
9961> >>
9962> >>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
9963> >>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
9964> >>end~
9965> >>
9966> >>Bella
9967> >>
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9981
9982From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:33:31 2000
9983MIME-Version: 1.0
9984Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
9985From: Kerisu <kerisu@afterpoint.com>
9986X-Sender: kerisu@sirvix.lewellyn.san-jose.ca.us
9987To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
9988Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
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10000
10001
10002On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Carli Schultz wrote:
10003> >awwww... I think someone is feeling a little...busted?
10004> >Poor wittew "Eric B."
10005>
10006> if hes even still here, like he cares.
10007> heh.
10008
10009Aw, now why do you say that? Eric B's probably still alive and well on
10010this list...
10011
10012From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10013X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
10014
10015$ nslookup 207.76.138.72
10016
10017Name: bob.organic.com
10018Address: 207.76.138.72
10019
10020> car
10021> --------------------------------------------->>>
10022> House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10023> http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10024> San Francisco
10025
10026Say hi to him sometime for me.
10027
10028- Kerisu
10029
10030---
10031.----[ Kerisu Jurio ]--/--[ kerisu@afterpoint.com ]--------------.
10032| If we get the trance effects, then we'll feel the info high... |
10033`----------------------[ http://homepages.go.com/~bluepulse ]----'
10034
10035
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10041From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:37:08 2000
10042MIME-Version: 1.0
10043Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:31:47 -0700 (PDT)
10044From: "E.Villedame" <elenorevilledame@yahoo.com>
10045Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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10057
10058
10059--- Badger wrote:
10060>
10061> So what is this supposed to mean? Are we to
10062understand that you're Eric
10063> Bogosian? And your postings here are, what, bad
10064excerpts from your shitty little
10065> book? Trolling for sales, eh?
10066
10067Yeah, and besides, would a *real* published
10068writer look for material on a mailing list?
10069
10070Heeey, waitaminute....
10071
10072:)
10073
10074Laurelei
10075
10076=====
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10089From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:54:38 2000
10090MIME-Version: 1.0
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10092From: "Æschere Bane" <akhbast@hotmail.com>
10093To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10094Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
10095Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:49:38 PDT
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10106
10107
10108 Lets just hope that this is for good. I saw the listie number go from
10109300 to 299 around the same time "it" said "it" unsubbed. We can at least
10110dream we won't have to deal with this idiotic crap on the list anymore...
10111
10112>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10113
10114>Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
10115>trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
10116>
10117>Finish it yourself:
10118>
10119>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
10120>http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
10121>
10122>Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
10123>
10124>Ta,
10125>Eric
10126
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10135From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:59:22 2000
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10138 <Pine.LNX.4.21.0004111328040.16279-100000@sirvix.lewellyn.san-jose.ca.us>
10139Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:30:02 -0700
10140To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10141From: Carli Schultz <carli@organic.com>
10142Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
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10154
10155
10156>
10157>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10158>X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
10159>
10160>$ nslookup 207.76.138.72
10161>
10162>Name: bob.organic.com
10163>Address: 207.76.138.72
10164>
10165>> car
10166>> --------------------------------------------->>>
10167>> House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10168>> http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10169>> San Francisco
10170>
10171>Say hi to him sometime for me.
10172>
10173>- Kerisu
10174damn!
10175only problem is, all of us here are bob.organic.com, so I've got 300
10176or so people to sort thru.....
10177when I figure out who he is, I will!
10178
10179Car
10180--------------------------------------------->>>
10181House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10182http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10183 San Francisco
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10189From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 16:59:22 2000
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10191In-Reply-To:
10192 <Pine.LNX.4.21.0004111328040.16279-100000@sirvix.lewellyn.san-jose.ca.us>
10193Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:30:02 -0700
10194To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10195From: Carli Schultz <carli@organic.com>
10196Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
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10208
10209
10210>
10211>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10212>X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
10213>
10214>$ nslookup 207.76.138.72
10215>
10216>Name: bob.organic.com
10217>Address: 207.76.138.72
10218>
10219>> car
10220>> --------------------------------------------->>>
10221>> House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10222>> http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10223>> San Francisco
10224>
10225>Say hi to him sometime for me.
10226>
10227>- Kerisu
10228damn!
10229only problem is, all of us here are bob.organic.com, so I've got 300
10230or so people to sort thru.....
10231when I figure out who he is, I will!
10232
10233Car
10234--------------------------------------------->>>
10235House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10236http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10237 San Francisco
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10243From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 17:44:17 2000
10244MIME-Version: 1.0
10245Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:01:31 -0700 (PDT)
10246From: <ben@ultraswank.com>
10247To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10248Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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10260
10261
10262I'd agree with you there. Having read most of his work and read and seen
10263several interviews with him, he's definatly a New Yorker. If this thing
10264really was Eric Bogosian we wouldn't have a problem with him not
10265responding to posts. If anything we would have problems getting him to
10266shut up (kinda like Perki). Besides, he produces so much work, he
10267wouldn't be regurgitating 7 year old material.
10268
10269BTW, when looking at Bogosian's film history you should ignore subUrbia.
10270Not only does it take it's title fromone of the best movies ever and make
10271it impossible to find information on the lesser known (but much better)
10272film, it's not his best work. Check out Talk Radio instead.
10273
10274-Ben Newman
10275
10276Zorak does not like R.E.M. with the bald weirdo flailing about and is
10277irked when no one offers alternatives in modern times.
10278 -- Zorak, evil space mantis
10279
10280
10281On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Grant wrote:
10282
10283>
10284> Yah know, I met the real Eric Bogosian before. He was doing a performance
10285> along with a lot of other poets on New Years Eve (98'-99') in the SOHO
10286> district on Manhatten.
10287>
10288> I can't say I know him well, but having met him I feel confident enough to
10289> say, son, your are no Eric Bogosian.
10290>
10291> The real one would not just post and then not discuss. Hell, the real one
10292> wouldn't blindly post to some list at all. But if he did, I could tell just
10293> from meeting him that he would definately engage and interact. Discuss.
10294>
10295> But you can't do that, since you aren't Eric Bogosian.
10296>
10297> ~G~
10298>
10299> ----- Original Message -----
10300> From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10301> To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
10302> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:00 PM
10303> Subject: [SFG] yawn
10304>
10305>
10306> >
10307> > Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
10308> > trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
10309> >
10310> > Finish it yourself:
10311> >
10312> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
10313> > http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
10314> >
10315> > Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
10316> >
10317> > Ta,
10318> > Eric
10319> >
10320> > >It's not a bot. It's a sad boring little man who knows someone on this
10321> > >list.
10322> > >And he probably with a REALLY small penis. And he is copying verbatum out
10323> > >of
10324> > >a stupid book. He's not even creative about his masturbation trash. I bet
10325> > >he
10326> > >can't even masturbate without tweezers.
10327> > >And he is a stupid troll who needs attention really bad. And you are all
10328> > >feeding him.
10329> > >And I'm laughing my ass off.
10330> > >
10331> > >:)
10332> > >
10333> > >> >
10334> > >> >ENOUGH!
10335> > >> >This is sick, offensive and completely unfunny now. At first, I was
10336> > >>amused.
10337> > >> >But now, I am offended and turing to rapid block deleting my emails. I
10338> > >>don't
10339> > >> >mind fluff, but I DO NOT need or want to hear about feces,
10340> masterbation,
10341> > >>or
10342> > >> >otherwise. Keep it to yourself. And I strongly doubt I'm the only one
10343> > >>who
10344> > >> >feels this way. Sure....if I don't want to read it, then don't. I
10345> > >>usually
10346> > >>
10347> > >>
10348> > >>
10349> > >>It's a damn bot, I'm betting. Why bother to respond? There is no
10350> > >>Ericb666, so dont waste your time writing, aint no-body reading on that
10351> > >>end~
10352> > >>
10353> > >>Bella
10354> > >>
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10374
10375From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 18:22:03 2000
10376MIME-Version: 1.0
10377X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
10378From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10379To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10380Subject: [SFG] response
10381Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:15:27 EDT
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10392
10393
10394...has been overwhelming. Thank you! *bows* Thank you! You're *so*
10395easy...
10396
10397Here's my one and probably not only response to the illustrious Senator
10398Perki, from the Moon:
10399
10400>I dont care if you're really eric bogosian or not.
10401
10402Obviously not, no more than a third-rate actor in the park is Shakespeare.
10403(Take the shot, if it will make you feel better.)
10404
10405>I don't like your writing, never have.
10406
10407I don't care, never have.
10408
10409>Thank you for knocking it off.
10410
10411No, thank *you*. Now that your ignorance and hostility has compelled me to
10412end the performance, I have literally minutes of extra time every day. I
10413feel as if an immense burden has been lifted off of me.
10414
10415>A lesson for the future mister. In forums like this
10416>it is a good idea to see what the prevailing mood is,
10417>then try messing with it from there. Think of lists as
10418>petri dishes for playing in, not as fertile ground for
10419>fresh creation. here are brains for fooling with and
10420>twisting, a test bed as it were for ideas. If it
10421>doesnt work, you stop, if it DOES work, you stop, take
10422>it back, refine it, and use it somewhere else.
10423
10424Done it, done it, done it. It has been done, it has worked, and it was been
10425tweaked and played with for better performance. This is the third or fourth
10426list I've done this on over the years, and the only one so far that was
10427obviously not going to make it through all the way to the end. It's quite
10428good, when it works. Sad, sad, sad. You missed out. We didn't even get to
10429the *bad* parts, yet. I will have to adjust it further to accommodate more
10430intolerance, territorialism, and megalomania than I've ever had to deal with
10431before.
10432
10433As an interesting side note, and as I've already mentioned to someone in
10434private correspondence, it's interesting to see how the public and private
10435responses differed so drastically. Privately, I've had many people send
10436positive and encouraging responses, saying things like, "I know exactly what
10437you mean - I feel like that sometimes, too - It's so good to know I'm not
10438alone." Publicly, well, you know. "Flame", if you want to stretch the
10439definition that much. Let me break that down for you a little bit more,
10440kids: mean people out in the open, nice people hiding in private. Meditate
10441on this, and think about how it affects your little community.
10442
10443It's amazing how much of a twist you sad children get into over less than
10444twenty posts over the course of less than a month. It really is.
10445
10446Get a grip. Jeez.
10447
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10456From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 18:39:17 2000
10457MIME-Version: 1.0
10458Subject: [SFG] yawn
10459Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:31:54 -0700
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10475
10476It's amazing how much of a twist you sad children get into over less than
10477twenty posts over the course of less than a month. It really is.
10478
10479I for one am sorry that the performance is over at least there was some
10480depth, depraved, but depth and it made people think and more importantly
10481re-act. If all of you deny that at least in some part you could relate
10482to what Eric B. said then I denounce you all as liars.
10483
10484David
10485
10486Je sens fondre sur moi de lourdes épouvantes
10487Et de noirs bataillons de fantomes épars,
10488Qui veulent me conduire en des routes mouvantes
10489Qu'un horizon sanglant ferme de toutes parts.
10490 * * * * * * * * * *
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10497From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 18:43:21 2000
10498MIME-Version: 1.0
10499Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:29:12 -0700
10500From: saktii@pacbell.net
10501Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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10513
10514
10515Well, I for one, ALWAYS liked your posts. I think I've said this a dozen or so
10516times before, but it sure beats the hell out of 400 responses to, "So, you want
10517to get together for coffee in some non-descript east bay town?"
10518Also, I find it immensley hilarious that so many people got so bothered by talk
10519to masturbation. I guess sexual liberation extends only as far as one's
10520wardrobe in the goth scene these days.
10521Anyway, I've said it all. And you folks can hate me for it, if you want, but at
10522least I have the guts to say what I mean and not fall into this sheep-like
10523trance of "Let's be mean to that Eric B. guy cause everybody else is doing it"
10524I personally don't give a fuck who he is. I was entertained, which is all one
10525can ever really hope for from life.
10526
10527saktii, the girl who would like to be able to incite riots if she could
10528
10529Eric B wrote:
10530
10531> ...has been overwhelming. Thank you! *bows* Thank you! You're *so*
10532> easy...
10533>
10534> Here's my one and probably not only response to the illustrious Senator
10535> Perki, from the Moon:
10536>
10537> >I dont care if you're really eric bogosian or not.
10538>
10539> Obviously not, no more than a third-rate actor in the park is Shakespeare.
10540> (Take the shot, if it will make you feel better.)
10541>
10542> >I don't like your writing, never have.
10543>
10544> I don't care, never have.
10545>
10546> >Thank you for knocking it off.
10547>
10548> No, thank *you*. Now that your ignorance and hostility has compelled me to
10549> end the performance, I have literally minutes of extra time every day. I
10550> feel as if an immense burden has been lifted off of me.
10551>
10552> >A lesson for the future mister. In forums like this
10553> >it is a good idea to see what the prevailing mood is,
10554> >then try messing with it from there. Think of lists as
10555> >petri dishes for playing in, not as fertile ground for
10556> >fresh creation. here are brains for fooling with and
10557> >twisting, a test bed as it were for ideas. If it
10558> >doesnt work, you stop, if it DOES work, you stop, take
10559> >it back, refine it, and use it somewhere else.
10560>
10561> Done it, done it, done it. It has been done, it has worked, and it was been
10562> tweaked and played with for better performance. This is the third or fourth
10563> list I've done this on over the years, and the only one so far that was
10564> obviously not going to make it through all the way to the end. It's quite
10565> good, when it works. Sad, sad, sad. You missed out. We didn't even get to
10566> the *bad* parts, yet. I will have to adjust it further to accommodate more
10567> intolerance, territorialism, and megalomania than I've ever had to deal with
10568> before.
10569>
10570> As an interesting side note, and as I've already mentioned to someone in
10571> private correspondence, it's interesting to see how the public and private
10572> responses differed so drastically. Privately, I've had many people send
10573> positive and encouraging responses, saying things like, "I know exactly what
10574> you mean - I feel like that sometimes, too - It's so good to know I'm not
10575> alone." Publicly, well, you know. "Flame", if you want to stretch the
10576> definition that much. Let me break that down for you a little bit more,
10577> kids: mean people out in the open, nice people hiding in private. Meditate
10578> on this, and think about how it affects your little community.
10579>
10580> It's amazing how much of a twist you sad children get into over less than
10581> twenty posts over the course of less than a month. It really is.
10582>
10583> Get a grip. Jeez.
10584>
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10600From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 18:50:55 2000
10601MIME-Version: 1.0
10602Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
10603From: Delicious Daemon <deliciousdaemon@yahoo.com>
10604Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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10616
10617
10618I agree with David.
10619I found his posts rather entertaining. I mean
10620truthfully I delete almost every post on this list due
10621to the lack of interesting content.
10622
10623But I did however, read every single one of "Erics"
10624posts. They were interesting, insightful, and yes, I
10625couold relate to some of the things he said.
10626
10627My theory is, why get your panties in a bunch over
10628something you can just delete? It's simple.
10629
10630I was looking forward to "Erics" next installment.
10631
10632My pitiful $.02
10633Emilie
10634
10635--- decay <decay@sirius.com> wrote:
10636
10637> I for one am sorry that the performance is over at
10638> least there was some
10639> depth, depraved, but depth and it made people think
10640> and more importantly
10641> re-act. If all of you deny that at least in some
10642> part you could relate
10643> to what Eric B. said then I denounce you all as
10644> liars.
10645>
10646> David
10647>
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10666From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 18:51:17 2000
10667MIME-Version: 1.0
10668Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
10669From: "E.Villedame" <elenorevilledame@yahoo.com>
10670Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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10683
10684> Anyway, I've said it all. And you folks can
10685hate me for it, if you want, but at
10686> least I have the guts to say what I mean and
10687not fall into this sheep-like
10688> trance of "Let's be mean to that Eric B. guy
10689cause everybody else is doing it"
10690
10691Um, hey, how about actually acknowledging that
10692most of us didn't really give a rat's ass either
10693way? Block him if you don't like him. Simple. But
10694no, people couldn't, and the chaos that ensued
10695after his posts was just stupid.
10696
10697So, he's gone. That's that. Can this be over now,
10698please? Savior on a stick, people, stop posting
10699about postings about postings about, etc. You're
10700boring me even more than Eric B. I'd rather see
10701an empty inbox than a bunch of empty postings.
10702
10703Next topic--if you were a flower, what kind of
10704flower would you be?
10705
10706(and if even one of you think I'm serious, I've
10707got a big orange bridge that I'm sellin'
10708cheap...")
10709
10710Laurelei
10711
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10725From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 19:01:53 2000
10726MIME-Version: 1.0
10727Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT)
10728From: Kerisu <kerisu@afterpoint.com>
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10731Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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10744
10745On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Eric B wrote:
10746> Done it, done it, done it. It has been done, it has worked, and it was been
10747> tweaked and played with for better performance. This is the third or fourth
10748> list I've done this on over the years, and the only one so far that was
10749> obviously not going to make it through all the way to the end.
10750
10751Just offhand, if I am to understand you correctly, you are copying
10752passages verbatim out of this book, are you not? I don't suppose you have
10753permission from the original author, do you?
10754
10755- Kerisu
10756
10757---
10758.----[ Kerisu Jurio ]--/--[ kerisu@afterpoint.com ]--------------.
10759| If we get the trance effects, then we'll feel the info high... |
10760`----------------------[ http://homepages.go.com/~bluepulse ]----'
10761
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10768From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 19:03:59 2000
10769MIME-Version: 1.0
10770From: "Micah" <micah-ra@mindspring.com>
10771To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
10772Subject: [SFG] tripe
10773Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:57:00 -0500
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10788
10789
10790It must be easy to be smug, hiding behind a hotmail account and abusing us.
10791
10792why are you wasting your time with us "children"?
10793Have you nothing even remotely more important to do?
10794
10795why not attack some public forum of a more "important" group?
10796
10797stop wasting your time on us, and go play in traffic.
10798
10799Okay, I promise I will say nothing more on this.
10800
10801I go click on Tools and Rules now.
10802
10803Micah
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10810From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 19:05:40 2000
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10813Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:01:23 -0700
10814To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10815From: Paula Ashton <BellaLune@phoenix-alliance.com>
10816Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
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10828
10829
10830At 03:31 PM 4/11/00 -0700, you wrote:
10831>
10832>It's amazing how much of a twist you sad children get into over less than
10833>twenty posts over the course of less than a month. It really is.
10834>
10835>I for one am sorry that the performance is over at least there was some
10836>depth, depraved, but depth and it made people think and more importantly
10837>re-act. If all of you deny that at least in some part you could relate
10838>to what Eric B. said then I denounce you all as liars.
10839>
10840>David
10841>
10842
10843Feh, I dig you David , but denounce away.
10844
10845I dont relate well to being used like a hankie, nor do I relate well when
10846people aren't bothering to actually engage with me, only throw things in my
10847general direction.
10848
10849IAnd that, has been my beef since the beginning. I'm not a guinea pig, I
10850didnt join the list to be a guinea pig, I joined to interact with people I
10851might have things in common with.
10852
10853Bella, sleepy now
10854
10855---------------------------------------
10856*sniff* I haven't been the same since that house fell on my sister
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10863From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 19:14:28 2000
10864MIME-Version: 1.0
10865Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:04:21 -0700 (PDT)
10866From: Andre de la Reza <juggling_chaos@yahoo.com>
10867Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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10879
10880
10881
10882blah blah blah I was Eric B blaha blah blah poor
10883children upset about 20 postings blah blah
10884
10885<snip>
10886
10887yawn... I am glad this is all over, Eric whoever I
10888hope you had fun, everyone who flamed, I hope you feel
10889vindicated, the rest of us I hope the aftermath will
10890end soon (I know I am adding to it myself, I guess
10891boredom at work has me unlurking for the most inane of
10892threads)
10893
10894in response to a much more intersting question:
10895
10896I really dig snap dragons, I think they are my
10897favorite flower.
10898
10899<relurking>
10900-Gypsy
10901
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10911From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 19:40:12 2000
10912MIME-Version: 1.0
10913From: ross@roundpeg.com
10914To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10915Subject: RE: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
10916Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:31:51 -0700
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10928
10929
10930hmmm.... how many people are on the list that work for Organic? not bloody
10931many....
10932
10933
10934-----Original Message-----
10935From: Carli Schultz [mailto:carli@organic.com]
10936Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:30 PM
10937To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
10938Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
10939
10940
10941
10942
10943>
10944>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
10945>X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
10946>
10947>$ nslookup 207.76.138.72
10948>
10949>Name: bob.organic.com
10950>Address: 207.76.138.72
10951>
10952>> car
10953>> --------------------------------------------->>>
10954>> House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10955>> http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
10956>> San Francisco
10957>
10958>Say hi to him sometime for me.
10959>
10960>- Kerisu
10961damn!
10962only problem is, all of us here are bob.organic.com, so I've got 300
10963or so people to sort thru.....
10964when I figure out who he is, I will!
10965
10966Car
10967--------------------------------------------->>>
10968House of the Moon Carli Schultz
10969http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
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10980From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 20:04:10 2000
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10986Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn - and favorite goths?
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11000
11001
11002Don't mean to sound like a bitch, but if you all feel like singing praises/
11003denouncing Eric B, could you kindly take it to private email for those of us who
11004don't really care either way and are sick of deleting? (I know that was a huge
11005run on sentence. Sorry.) You are merely feeding his craving for attention and
11006clogging up other people's emails. Please? For the rest of us? *bats lashes*
11007
11008And now we return to our regularly scheduled topics...
11009
11010here's a question... with all of the different "types" of goth nowdays (i.e.
11011perky, mopey, fetish, etc.), What is everyone's favorite look? It doesn't have
11012to be your personal look, just the one that you like to see. And what's the
11013most fun one for you to dress as?
11014
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11067From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 20:10:49 2000
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11070From: "Matthew Hayes" <matthewhades@hotmail.com>
11071To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11072Subject: [SFG] Yawn squared
11073Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:00:21 PDT
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11085
11086How many people are annoyed by the obtusity used to arrive at such an
11087awe-inspiring conclusion? Gosh, what a detective we have in our midst.
11088
11089let it the fuck go
11090
11091
11092
11093----Original Message Follows----
11094From: ross@roundpeg.com
11095Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11096To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11097Subject: RE: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
11098Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:31:51 -0700
11099
11100
11101hmmm.... how many people are on the list that work for Organic? not bloody
11102many....
11103
11104
11105-----Original Message-----
11106From: Carli Schultz [mailto:carli@organic.com]
11107Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 1:30 PM
11108To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11109Subject: Re: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
11110
11111
11112
11113
11114 >
11115 >From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
11116 >X-Originating-IP: [207.76.138.72]
11117 >
11118 >$ nslookup 207.76.138.72
11119 >
11120 >Name: bob.organic.com
11121 >Address: 207.76.138.72
11122 >
11123 >> car
11124 >> --------------------------------------------->>>
11125 >> House of the Moon Carli Schultz
11126 >> http://www.lunesse.com Organic, http://www.organic.com
11127 >> San Francisco
11128 >
11129 >Say hi to him sometime for me.
11130 >
11131 >- Kerisu
11132damn!
11133only problem is, all of us here are bob.organic.com, so I've got 300
11134or so people to sort thru.....
11135when I figure out who he is, I will!
11136
11137Car
11138
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11148From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 20:11:20 2000
11149MIME-Version: 1.0
11150Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
11151From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
11152Subject: [SFG] Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on us
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11164
11165
11166Now that I've ended the performance, I'm free to break
11167character and
11168reply:
11169
11170>I have been reading all of your postings, and your
11171>nonchalant attitude towards everyone's reactions to
11172>those postings, is almost comical. They are feeding
11173>you all this attention. you probably don't care.
11174
11175Actually, I do care, but I've been disappointed. Once
11176a year I do this to a list I'm on, and collect the
11177responses. It's very interesting, from my end, at
11178least, to watch the reactions. Usually people just
11179accept them, and then fall for the sucker punch at the
11180end, but these goth kids were just too upset at
11181someone they didn't know intruding on their turf, they
11182blew it
11183before it even got good. Ah, well.
11184
11185>You post almost what could be considered a script.
11186>Those are obviously written in that manner for the
11187>attention.
11188
11189It is totally a script. It's an Eric Bogosian story
11190presented as a series of journal entries. I've
11191adapted them so that they work in an electronic
11192format, but it's basically the same story. It usually
11193works quite
11194well, but y'all are wound way too tight, I reckon.
11195
11196>Like an individual had previously posted, ":if you
11197don't like it, don't read".. as thought they are
11198>compelled to do so. So, if you were trying to get a
11199>reaction such as you have received, such a "i hate
11200>that guy, but i can't help
11201>but read his wordings," i think you have accomplished
11202>your deed.
11203
11204What I was expecting was to be ignored for a month or
11205two, maybe discussed a bit, and then freak people out
11206near the end. Again, too bad. It would have
11207been fun. It was, however, very enlightening to watch
11208the responses - SF goths are far more intolerant,
11209territorial, ignorant and mean than I had ever
11210imagined. Surprising what you can learn about people
11211you thought you knew after listing with them for over
11212a year... Maybe not so surprising, after all.
11213
11214>Personally, I think you're posts are interesting. A
11215>little weird, but interesting..
11216
11217Thanks - another thing I found interesting was the
11218dynamic of the tones of the replies. Almost all the
11219public replies were hostile and negative, but
11220almost all of the replies I received privately were
11221encouraging me to continue, either through curiosity
11222or plain old interest. Some people even wrote to me
11223saying, "I know exactly what you mean - I feel like
11224that sometimes, too - It's so good to know I'm not
11225alone." I wonder what would happen to the list if
11226more people felt comfortable writing things like this
11227in public. It's a shame that people think that being
11228nasty is an indication of intelligence or coolness.
11229
11230Anyway. I'm done. See you later - feel free to share
11231my thoughts...
11232
11233Eric
11234
11235
11236~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
11237personally, i think he is a little ignorant in his
11238gweneralization of the goth's in san fran. this is
11239just a lit.. not all of us are from san fran, and not
11240all of us ever posted a response to him. I wrote him
11241this little peice as listed above, not expecting a
11242response, but i did... so here you go..
11243
11244besides, i'm a little bored her at eork, and really
11245don't have anything better to deo.
11246I like the people on the list. you all have your own
11247completely different personalities.. Just goes to show
11248you one thing.... we're not "all those freaks are the
11249same.. depressed, sucidal, maniacle, and freay
11250looking" kinda people. we're cool man.
11251
11252 ok.. i'm gonna go now.
11253
11254d
11255
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11268From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 21:03:19 2000
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11270From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
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11272Subject: RE: [SFG] response
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11290
11291
11292I would rather go to coffee with friends than spend my days talking about
11293masturbation on a list......
11294Coffee is GOOOOOOD... espresso is GOOOOOD... Mocha's are Goooood
11295
11296Geoff Baker
11297Tzeentch@home.com
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11299-----Original Message-----
11300From: owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com [mailto:owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com] On Behalf Of
11301saktii@pacbell.net
11302Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:29 PM
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11304Subject: Re: [SFG] response
11305
11306
11307Well, I for one, ALWAYS liked your posts. I think I've said this a dozen or
11308so
11309times before, but it sure beats the hell out of 400 responses to, "So, you
11310want
11311to get together for coffee in some non-descript east bay town?"
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11318From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 20:19:45 2000
11319MIME-Version: 1.0
11320Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:34:03 -0700 (PDT)
11321From: ben@ultraswank.com
11322To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11323Subject: RE: [SFG] busted (was "yawn")
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11336
11337I know of at least three: myself, Carli and Brandon. Organic also employs
11338over 300 people in SF, and there are lots quirky tech people in that
11339bunch. As this list was created with the help of one of Organic's
11340founders there could be quite a few Organic people on it.
11341
11342-Ben Newman
11343
11344Zorak does not like R.E.M. with the bald weirdo flailing about and is
11345irked when no one offers alternatives in modern times.
11346 -- Zorak, evil space mantis
11347
11348
11349On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 ross@roundpeg.com wrote:
11350
11351>
11352> hmmm.... how many people are on the list that work for Organic? not bloody
11353> many....
11354>
11355>
11356
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11367Subject: [SFG] Re: Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on us
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11386
11387
11388The comments culled out below are kinda interesting; my wife has a very low
11389opinion of SF goths, an opinion largely gleaned from this list and a couple
11390of visits. I personally see the list -- in the brief time I've been on it --
11391as being much more fractious and intolerant than comparative Texas lists & I
11392cannot stand the rl Texas scene, nor most of the rl people who participate
11393in it.
11394
11395Not that that is either here or there; I view and listen because I view and
11396listen. But it is interesting that a scene I've found -- for the most
11397part -- very friendly and much more mature out in the real world produces a
11398mailing list with this sort of perceived character.
11399
11400Reason
11401http://www.exratio.com/
11402
11403-----------------
11404
11405> Thanks - another thing I found interesting was the
11406> dynamic of the tones of the replies. Almost all the
11407> public replies were hostile and negative, but
11408> almost all of the replies I received privately were
11409> encouraging me to continue, either through curiosity
11410> or plain old interest. Some people even wrote to me
11411> saying, "I know exactly what you mean - I feel like
11412> that sometimes, too - It's so good to know I'm not
11413> alone." I wonder what would happen to the list if
11414> more people felt comfortable writing things like this
11415> in public. It's a shame that people think that being
11416> nasty is an indication of intelligence or coolness.
11417>
11418> Anyway. I'm done. See you later - feel free to share
11419> my thoughts...
11420>
11421> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
11422> personally, i think he is a little ignorant in his
11423> gweneralization of the goth's in san fran. this is
11424> just a lit.. not all of us are from san fran, and not
11425> all of us ever posted a response to him. I wrote him
11426> this little peice as listed above, not expecting a
11427> response, but i did... so here you go..
11428
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11440 (ben@ultraswank.com)
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11452
11453
11454ben@ultraswank.com:
11455:
11456:I know of at least three: myself, Carli and Brandon. Organic also employs
11457:over 300 people in SF, and there are lots quirky tech people in that
11458:bunch. As this list was created with the help of one of Organic's
11459:founders there could be quite a few Organic people on it.
11460
11461Make that at least four - and I just found out about Ben. That's
11462four, just in the twenty feet around me or so, and he's right - we've
11463got that many freaks* here, and like twice that worldwide. But what-ever.
11464Now shut up about the git, already.
11465
11466Murali
11467"I'm Spartacus!"
11468
11469*OK, they're not all freaks - most of them aren't, really. Enough to
11470 mix it up, though.
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11480Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:35:24 -0700
11481To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
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11483Subject: [SFG] Re: Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on
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11496
11497>The comments culled out below are kinda interesting; my wife has a very low
11498>opinion of SF goths, an opinion largely gleaned from this list and a couple
11499>of visits. I personally see the list -- in the brief time I've been on it --
11500>as being much more fractious and intolerant than comparative Texas lists & I
11501>cannot stand the rl Texas scene, nor most of the rl people who participate
11502>in it.
11503
11504Are the Texas lists as large as this one? I think one reason that
11505this list seems to viciously stomp on anything that "it" (that is to
11506say "some vocal members") perceives as annoying is because if even a
11507small fraction of the list (say 1-5%) were to engage in annoying
11508behavior, the list would rapidly degenerate into something utterly
11509useless.
11510
11511With this many people on a single list it's hard to keep everyone on
11512the same page about what constitutes acceptable behavior. As a
11513result, people with strong views tend to make those views known
11514rather vehemently.
11515
11516
11517The dynamics of this list are really interesting to watch. One thing
11518I noticed was that "Eric B" did succeed at being a thread-starter. I
11519seem to be a thread-stopper, that is people rarely respond to my
11520posts on-list. I wonder what kinds of threads are more likely to
11521generate responses. Maybe it's time to do some more statistical
11522analysis...
11523
11524
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11533Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:48:31 -0700
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11548
11549Well, it's nice to see that your thimbleful of imagination at least extends to
11550the love of a good cup of joe.
11551
11552Tzeentch wrote:
11553
11554> I would rather go to coffee with friends than spend my days talking about
11555> masturbation on a list......
11556> Coffee is GOOOOOOD... espresso is GOOOOOD... Mocha's are Goooood
11557>
11558> Geoff Baker
11559> Tzeentch@home.com
11560>
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11566> Subject: Re: [SFG] response
11567>
11568> Well, I for one, ALWAYS liked your posts. I think I've said this a dozen or
11569> so
11570> times before, but it sure beats the hell out of 400 responses to, "So, you
11571> want
11572> to get together for coffee in some non-descript east bay town?"
11573>
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11586From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 22:09:41 2000
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11589From: "Æschere Bane" <akhbast@hotmail.com>
11590To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11591Subject: Re: [SFG] Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on us
11592Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:03:15 PDT
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11604
11605 What I think is the funniest thing is this supposed outlook on "us". I
11606don't believe that many of the people were reacting in any way but to stop
11607the pointless drivel and say "use the delete key" as was previously pointed
11608out. In fact, out of 300 listies I don't think that even a quarter of the
11609list stated or posted anything to Eric B's inane chatter. That is not a very
11610statistical or logical way to get the opinion of 300 listies (or all San
11611Francisco goths/rivets/etc), especially sense we happen to have some people
11612on the list that are a little more post/flame happy.
11613
11614 Aeschere Bane
11615
11616>From: D K <demonbutterfly@yahoo.com>
11617>Reply-To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11618>To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11619>Subject: [SFG] Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on us
11620>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:22:59 -0700 (PDT)
11621>
11622>
11623>Now that I've ended the performance, I'm free to break
11624>character and
11625>reply:
11626>
11627> >I have been reading all of your postings, and your
11628> >nonchalant attitude towards everyone's reactions to
11629> >those postings, is almost comical. They are feeding
11630> >you all this attention. you probably don't care.
11631>
11632>Actually, I do care, but I've been disappointed. Once
11633>a year I do this to a list I'm on, and collect the
11634>responses. It's very interesting, from my end, at
11635>least, to watch the reactions. Usually people just
11636>accept them, and then fall for the sucker punch at the
11637>end, but these goth kids were just too upset at
11638>someone they didn't know intruding on their turf, they
11639>blew it
11640>before it even got good. Ah, well.
11641>
11642> >You post almost what could be considered a script.
11643> >Those are obviously written in that manner for the
11644> >attention.
11645>
11646>It is totally a script. It's an Eric Bogosian story
11647>presented as a series of journal entries. I've
11648>adapted them so that they work in an electronic
11649>format, but it's basically the same story. It usually
11650>works quite
11651>well, but y'all are wound way too tight, I reckon.
11652>
11653> >Like an individual had previously posted, ":if you
11654>don't like it, don't read".. as thought they are
11655> >compelled to do so. So, if you were trying to get a
11656> >reaction such as you have received, such a "i hate
11657> >that guy, but i can't help
11658> >but read his wordings," i think you have accomplished
11659> >your deed.
11660>
11661>What I was expecting was to be ignored for a month or
11662>two, maybe discussed a bit, and then freak people out
11663>near the end. Again, too bad. It would have
11664>been fun. It was, however, very enlightening to watch
11665>the responses - SF goths are far more intolerant,
11666>territorial, ignorant and mean than I had ever
11667>imagined. Surprising what you can learn about people
11668>you thought you knew after listing with them for over
11669>a year... Maybe not so surprising, after all.
11670>
11671> >Personally, I think you're posts are interesting. A
11672> >little weird, but interesting..
11673>
11674>Thanks - another thing I found interesting was the
11675>dynamic of the tones of the replies. Almost all the
11676>public replies were hostile and negative, but
11677>almost all of the replies I received privately were
11678>encouraging me to continue, either through curiosity
11679>or plain old interest. Some people even wrote to me
11680>saying, "I know exactly what you mean - I feel like
11681>that sometimes, too - It's so good to know I'm not
11682>alone." I wonder what would happen to the list if
11683>more people felt comfortable writing things like this
11684>in public. It's a shame that people think that being
11685>nasty is an indication of intelligence or coolness.
11686>
11687>Anyway. I'm done. See you later - feel free to share
11688>my thoughts...
11689>
11690>Eric
11691>
11692>
11693>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
11694>personally, i think he is a little ignorant in his
11695>gweneralization of the goth's in san fran. this is
11696>just a lit.. not all of us are from san fran, and not
11697>all of us ever posted a response to him. I wrote him
11698>this little peice as listed above, not expecting a
11699>response, but i did... so here you go..
11700>
11701>besides, i'm a little bored her at eork, and really
11702>don't have anything better to deo.
11703>I like the people on the list. you all have your own
11704>completely different personalities.. Just goes to show
11705>you one thing.... we're not "all those freaks are the
11706>same.. depressed, sucidal, maniacle, and freay
11707>looking" kinda people. we're cool man.
11708>
11709> ok.. i'm gonna go now.
11710>
11711>d
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11720From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 23:14:04 2000
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11723From: "Fernando Orozco" <fsoii@hotmail.com>
11724To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11725Subject: Re: [SFG] Re: Not that you care,,, but this is Eric B's "outlook" on us
11726Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:08:33 GMT
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11739
11740
11741>From: "Reason" <reason@PraetorianGroup.com>
11742>The comments culled out below are kinda interesting; my wife has a very low
11743>opinion of SF goths, an opinion largely gleaned from this list and a couple
11744>of visits. I personally see the list -- in the brief time I've been on it
11745>--
11746>as being much more fractious and intolerant than comparative Texas lists &
11747>I
11748>cannot stand the rl Texas scene, nor most of the rl people who participate
11749>in it.
11750>
11751>Not that that is either here or there; I view and listen because I view and
11752>listen. But it is interesting that a scene I've found -- for the most
11753>part -- very friendly and much more mature out in the real world produces a
11754>mailing list with this sort of perceived character.
11755
11756Heh. You hit on my pet peeve of the Internet. Many people talk realy big
11757shit over the web, and in real life, they can't realy back it up. I take
11758almost eveything I see on the net with a bag of salt, especialy flame wars,
11759trolls, or pickup lines in goth chat rooms.
11760 Eric B pulled a pretty good one on us here, but in the end, he is the one
11761who looks stupid, and it realy doesnt matter anyway, cause we will all
11762forget about this in a week. I am glad we didn't ignore him and let him
11763spout his little psychodrama here. We would have been what he wanted us to
11764be, a bunch of lab rats. He came into a specific type of list, and gave us
11765the same test he would have if we were a discussion group for the "Hells
11766Angels Quilting discussion Mailing list". Its just as bad as someone coming
11767here and trying to convert us to any given organized religion.
11768I am glad that we are not sheep who follow some dorks bait. We thought he
11769was trolling for our attention, he was just giving us a socioligy test. I am
11770proud of all of you that we failed.
11771
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11781From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Tue Apr 11 23:59:30 2000
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11784From: "Anti Goth" <anti_goth@hotmail.com>
11785To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11786Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
11787Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 03:55:17 GMT
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11799
11800
11801
11802>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
11803>
11804>Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
11805>trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
11806>
11807>Finish it yourself:
11808>
11809>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
11810>http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
11811>
11812>Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
11813>
11814>Ta,
11815>Eric
11816
11817...childish melodramtic hysterics... ie this letter your sending to a group
11818of people i'm purdy sure couldn't give a flying phuck bout you? shits n
11819giggles
11820
11821
11822that stick up your ass must hurt
11823how bout i take it out and beat you with it?
11824
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11834From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Wed Apr 12 00:35:01 2000
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11836Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:30:56 -0700 (PDT)
11837From: Blud Pudle <bludpudle@yahoo.com>
11838Subject: [SFG] idiots online and other stuff
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11851
11852heh.
11853Rae, you friggin rawk.
11854
11855Having met Krystal...
11856well, she's quite nice, and like everyone else here a
11857real sweetie IRL. In the words of Kiki da ferret,
11858"stay good".
11859
11860About Idiots not having the internet....
11861NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Then *I* wouldn't be able to play!!!
11862
11863Um...oh yeah. One last (I promise) word about that
11864eric person.
11865I didnt like what he wrote, and I found most of his
11866respones pretty inane, BUT (and heres the kicker), the
11867point of his/her/its experiment was valid to an
11868extent. In that it did make me consider my own
11869behaviour on this list, and my reactions. I wasn't
11870aware I was being hostile (then again, given that the
11871general tone of this list is a twee bit
11872uberbitchy....) but apparently that came across as
11873such. So, I think I'll try being "nice" again. Maybe
11874some of the rest of us should consider the same thing.
11875I love a witty flame as much as the next, but if that
11876becomes all we are, then we are no better than the
11877labrats Eric thinks we are.
11878
11879thank you, drive through.
11880
11881-=Perki
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11896To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11897Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn - and favorite goths? a delurk
11898Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:15:27 PDT
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11910
11911Hi lovelies,
11912
11913I've been around for about a month or so on this list and I have to say that
11914I'm actually disappointed that this Eric B is gone. I was really enjoying
11915his posts and everyone's reaction's to them. I also like to study other
11916people for curiosity's sake. However I don't think I would ever have the
11917balls to throw a handful of boulders in a pond just to see what happens. As
11918a visual that's how I saw his postings. It was amazing to see how people
11919became so offended and heated from his postings. Sometimes those are the
11920moments when life is real, when one really FEELS something enough to share
11921it with others, to express their outrage or disgust or even amusement. Life
11922can get pretty boring at times and personally I feel good after getting
11923riled up about something. It means I'm alive and living, not just existing.
11924
11925And now back to lighter stuff........
11926
11927>What is everyone's favorite look? It doesn't have
11928>to be your personal look, just the one that you like to see. And > what's
11929>the
11930>most fun one for you to dress as?
11931>
11932
11933I just LOVE men in Victorian outfits or gender-bending looks. Especially the
11934longhaired ones. Yummy.
11935
11936Women are always fabulous in corsets......and velvet, lace-I guess what I
11937like to call an Ethereal/Faery goth look. Victorian and medieval are great
11938too.PVC-I guess I like just about everything but T-shirts and jeans.
11939
11940Mostly "elegant" is the look I go for in whatever goth style I feel like
11941wearing.
11942
11943back to lurking............until next time. :)
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11954From: "Tzeentch" <tzeentch@home.com>
11955To: <sfglj@sfgoth.com>
11956Subject: RE: [SFG] yawn
11957Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:26:33 -0700
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11974
11975
11976Ok.. so basically you're just working your way though all 300 people
11977insulting each one..
11978How neat..
11979Can you please insult AT LEAST 3-5 per post.. that way you will generate
11980less crap for us all to delete.
11981I don't mind some crap from some people some of the time..
11982But your postings are 100% crap all of the time.
11983At least find SOMETHING interesting to post once in a while.. mix it up a
11984bit.. keep everyone on their toes.
11985
11986
11987
11988Tzeentch
11989The Changer of Ways
11990Tzeentch@home.com
11991
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11994Anti Goth
11995Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 8:55 PM
11996To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
11997Subject: Re: [SFG] yawn
11998
11999
12000
12001
12002>From: "Eric B" <ericb333@hotmail.com>
12003>
12004>Your childish, melodramatic hysterics bore me. You kids are far more
12005>trouble than it's worth to continue this performance.
12006>
12007>Finish it yourself:
12008>
12009>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1559361425/
12010>http://www.ericbogosian.com/notes.html
12011>
12012>Sad. Absolutely my worst audience, ever.
12013>
12014>Ta,
12015>Eric
12016
12017...childish melodramtic hysterics... ie this letter your sending to a group
12018of people i'm purdy sure couldn't give a flying phuck bout you? shits n
12019giggles
12020
12021
12022that stick up your ass must hurt
12023how bout i take it out and beat you with it?
12024
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12043Subject: RE: [SFG] yawn
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12062
12063To relate to it I would have had to read it 1st.
12064
12065Geoff Baker
12066Tzeentch@home.com
12067
12068-----Original Message-----
12069From: owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com [mailto:owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com] On Behalf Of
12070decay
12071Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 3:32 PM
12072To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
12073Subject: [SFG] yawn
12074
12075
12076It's amazing how much of a twist you sad children get into over less than
12077twenty posts over the course of less than a month. It really is.
12078
12079I for one am sorry that the performance is over at least there was some
12080depth, depraved, but depth and it made people think and more importantly
12081re-act. If all of you deny that at least in some part you could relate
12082to what Eric B. said then I denounce you all as liars.
12083
12084David
12085
12086Je sens fondre sur moi de lourdes épouvantes
12087Et de noirs bataillons de fantomes épars,
12088Qui veulent me conduire en des routes mouvantes
12089Qu'un horizon sanglant ferme de toutes parts.
12090 * * * * * * * * * *
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12102From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 13 00:01:49 2000
12103MIME-Version: 1.0
12104Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:56:15 -0700 (PDT)
12105From: LadyJ <jstpark@yahoo.com>
12106Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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12118
12119
12120...
12121
12122 You watch alot of Howard Stern don't you? It
12123is persumptious to presume that it was the
12124refferences to *Masterbation* that we all found
12125annoying. Bit of a fixation on your part?
12126
12127 Anyway, my biggest complaint would have to be
12128his incestious whinning! He sounded like a
12129teenage kid talking to his shrink.
12130
12131 It was irrelivent and it was a nuisance.
12132Perhaps your right maybe we should rip you for
12133contending we're all sheep. What if we're all
12134right and you're just wrong?
12135
12136 Just my opinion, don't hold it against me, it's
12137just as valid as yours.
12138
12139~As dictated to LadyJ by GothLordJ~
12140
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12155From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 13 01:11:30 2000
12156MIME-Version: 1.0
12157Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:00:21 -0700
12158From: saktii@pacbell.net
12159Subject: Re: [SFG] response
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12172
12173Hey sweetie, did "Gothlord" dictate your embarassing lack of adult-level
12174spelling skills, as well?
12175Do I watch Howard Stern? Well, er, no actually. I wasn't aware that one could
12176watch a radio show. How long did you spend, sweating over the keyboard, trying
12177to pen that oh-so-clever jab at my intelligence?
12178Boy, are you ever d-e-f-e-n-s-i-v-e. got the spelling of that? you can write
12179it down and study it later, if you need to.
12180why did I comment on the fact that I thought it was hilarious that people got
12181oh-so-offended at references to masturbation? well, because it was hilarious.
12182Grow some fortitude.
12183Maybe everyone else is right, and I'm wrong. Do you really think I give a
12184fuck? I wasn't aware that personal opinions were subject to being either right
12185or wrong.
12186And YES I do have a problem with sheep-like behavior, and social retards who
12187think that their personal little on-line nirvana is completely untouchable.
12188Next time you want to pick on someone, sweetie, look a little further down the
12189gene pool.
12190Oh--by the way-- "presumtutous to presume" is akin to saying "He was stupidly
12191stupid." R-e-d-u-n-d-a-n-t. Go look it up.
12192Go back to English class before you embarass yourself like that again.
12193But hey-- that's just my opinion, and it's just as valid as yours :).
12194Yeah, ya gotta hate that "incestuous whinning".
12195
12196saktii, the girl who has" fuck you" dripping on her tongue like the sweetest
12197bit of honey.
12198
12199
12200>
12201>
12202>
12203>
12204>
12205>
12206>
12207>
12208>
12209>
12210>
12211>
12212>
12213>
12214>
12215>
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12232From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 13 01:14:12 2000
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12235From: "femme mystique" <merryminx@hotmail.com>
12236To: sfglj@sfgoth.com
12237Subject: Re: [SFG] idiots online and other stuff
12238Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 05:09:24 GMT
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12250
12251>extent. In that it did make me consider my own
12252>behaviour on this list, and my reactions.
12253
12254Repent you devious sinner. But you are forgiven my child. Go forth into
12255the cyber-ether dispensing wry wit and levity.
12256
12257Stay on keeping it interesting, Perki.
12258
12259- Mystique (aka Shawn)
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12268From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Thu Apr 13 16:12:58 2000
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12270Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT)
12271From: Jonny Faw <jonnyfaw@yahoo.com>
12272Subject: Re: [SFG] *yawn* - an open letter to "ericb" and any other who wants to see.
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12285
12286So Eric B. appears to have come to a sad end on the
12287list. Well Eric if you'd like a real challenge at
12288annoying an e-mail list then I would suggest joining
12289mtn-raves@hyperreal.org you have been warned that you
12290will in fact have met you match.
12291
12292--- Blud Pudle <bludpudle@yahoo.com> wrote:
12293>
12294> my one and only direct response ot the troll who
12295> calls
12296> himself Eric B.
12297>
12298> 1) I dont care if you're really eric bogosian or
12299> not.
12300>
12301> 2) I dont care if you're famous or not.
12302>
12303> 3) I don't like your writing, never have.
12304>
12305> 4) Thank you for knocking it off.
12306>
12307> 5) A lesson for the future mister. In forums like
12308> this
12309> it is a good idea to see what the prevailing mood
12310> is,
12311> then try messing with it from there. Think of lists
12312> as
12313> petri dishes for playing in, not as fertile ground
12314> for
12315> fresh creation. here are brains for fooling with and
12316> twisting, a test bed as it were for ideas. If it
12317> doesnt work, you stop, if it DOES work, you stop,
12318> take
12319> it back, refine it, and use it somewhere else.
12320>
12321> Thank you.
12322> Drive Through.
12323>
12324> -=perki
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12349From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 14 06:32:44 2000
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12351X-Sent: 14 Apr 2000 10:26:42 GMT
12352Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 03:30:37 -0700
12353From: Eric Gottesman <dcpticon@sfgoth.com>
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12356Subject: Re: [SFG] Junkie Gathering - Shrine
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12368
12369Um... I don't think I know you... Have you ever been to Shrine? Shrine -is- a
12370listie hangout! Fully half (check me on this approximation someone? maybe less
12371now that we're on saturdays...) of the people at Shrine on any given night are
12372listies. You just don't know them...
12373If you really want to find listies, try standing in the middle of the bar and
12374screaming "I AM ERIC B.!" and see what happens.
12375
12376femme mystique wrote:
12377
12378> Ah God, with the multitude of listies headed to Shrine it is going to be
12379> hard to discern anyone I don't know, especially when everyone blends into
12380> the hordes or into the dark of the dance room. The clothing descriptions
12381> rarely help unless they're really outlandish.
12382>
12383> Could we claim one of the booths as a junkie hangout? Rallying flag,
12384> banner, or gang colors much needed...
12385>
12386> - mystique
12387
12388--
12389"When she says 'What's Industrial music?', tell her it's the sound of angry
12390Belgians having a fight with a washing machine."
12391 -Industrial 101
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12399From owner-sfglj@sfgoth.com Fri Apr 14 17:20:50 2000
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12402Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:05:38 -0700
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12404From: nightbird <rhhayden@sprynet.com>
12405Subject: Re: [SFG] Junkie Gathering - Shrine
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12418
12419At 03:30 AM 4/14/2000 -0700, Eric Gottesman wrote:
12420>
12421>If you really want to find listies, try standing in the middle of the bar and
12422>screaming "I AM ERIC B.!" and see what happens.
12423
12424 I'm not ready to die just yet.
12425
12426 However, I plan to be wearing a cheesy Pirate outfit at Shrine.
12427
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