· 9 years ago · Oct 26, 2016, 10:58 AM
1Luciifer 4 hours ago
2ohhhhh okies
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4Kairos 2 hours ago
5\\ Burmice I didn't realise you were a god
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7Kairos 2 hours ago
8but i can't say i'm surprised
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10Kairos 2 hours ago
11that is where I will leave this, you are not worth the breath, thought or time of effort...good day
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13Graye ao 2 hours ago
14What's the matter?
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16Kairos 2 hours ago
17her post is no better then my original post of the helms hold siege that khorak brought me up on
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19Graye ao 2 hours ago
20I'm reading it right now. I'm not all the way through but I don't see anything wrong with it so far
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22Kairos 2 hours ago
23that is what is up Graye, countless time's has burmice pulled this stunt out of her hat, everytime something start going south with her character or she feels victimized in an instance, and quiet frankly you can not disclose information that has not been presented additionally she failed to allow the HARPERS or real investigation to take place
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25Kairos 2 hours ago
26and effectivly ruined several rp's that were lined up to take place
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28Kairos 2 hours ago
29example, the harpers were to talk to Cauri, and Bhael but that can't happen now because she's trotted off her whole trial
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31Graye ao 2 hours ago
32I don't get it. She's providing information to a courtroom. Much of this stuff I've heard talk of myself, it's been mentioned in game on several occasions. I see what you mean with the Harpers, Cauri and Bhael thing, but those conversations could still have happened and be retconned into events prior to the trial
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34Kairos 2 hours ago
35She has gone over the heads of those who tried to be make this as 'real' as possible, the two people controlling the overall trial and detainment, I would have expected her to have the deceny to consult her idea's with I don't know say "Those involved"
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37Kairos 2 hours ago
38She progressed with the trial before Lyv and I were ready to go ahead with it
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40Graye ao 1 hour ago
41Yeah I can see that being problematic for consistency
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43Kairos 1 hour ago
44Problematic for consistency, Graye that's like looking at your DM and saying "I want to find a treasure chest full of loot" and not giving the GM time to respond
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46Kairos 1 hour ago
47The siege of helms hold, was a colaberated effort, planned out carefully between the parties involved which we wanted to do with this, but clearly that is not the intention burmice had in mind.
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49Graye ao 1 hour ago
50I could be tired but I don't think I'm seeing what you're seeing. I agree the trial is rushed, but there's no taking control of reactions or opposing agents in the post, it's all one long rant of information from Burmice. Conversations with the Harpers, Cauri and Bhael and other things still have room to take place
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52Kairos 1 hour ago
53How can investigation take place if the Accused has given her testimony to the court
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55Kairos 1 hour ago
56it can't
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58Graye ao 1 hour ago
59retconning. This whole trial doesn't have to have taken place in the ingame timeline yet
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61Kairos 1 hour ago
62Okay this is where forum RP is irritating
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64Kairos 1 hour ago
65and i'll point out why
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67Kairos 1 hour ago
68I have litened to conversation on Mumble, in game and on Discord, and It appears that these "Timelines" are all whitewash
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70Kairos 1 hour ago
71People making "Future posts" and having players in game, bring it up as fact, and vice versa
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73Kairos 1 hour ago
74before events are even able to happen
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76Kairos 1 hour ago
77without producing a clean line as to when things are said / presented, from Forum RP to the IC RP, you get the mash of jumbled inconsistancy that does nothing but create headaches
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79Kairos 1 hour ago
80The problem is, Lyv and I are the effect DM's of this arrest, and to have put forth a testimony without first consulting us on how it would happen, she ran ahead and "Assumed" that's how it would go.
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82Graye ao 1 hour ago
83You are? I was under the impression this was still under Bhael's plot, since it's all tied to that really.
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85Kairos 1 hour ago
86It isn't
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88Kairos 1 hour ago
89It has nothing to do with Bhael
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91Kairos 1 hour ago
92but everyone think it does
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94Graye ao 1 hour ago
95The only reason she's in jail is because Elspeth captured her quasit, which was spying on Graye, who was helping Thia attack Bhael. From where I stand it's almost literally connected
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97Kairos 1 hour ago
98It all stems to two points, 1) Burmice is being tried for her crimes of necromancy, murder, break in enter There is no interest in Bhael from the Tormites or Harpers, The harpers wanted to talk to bhael and ask why the Lord Regent, is associating with a necromancer or known demonoligist,
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100Kairos 1 hour ago
101the second part is 2) She was to be tried for the kidnap of Anora
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103Kairos 1 hour ago
104who is a harper
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106Kairos 1 hour ago
107but I wasn't given the time to consult with the parties i needed to before she went to trial, and began to dictate the judge.
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109Kairos 1 hour ago
110IT was never about bhael
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112Kairos 1 hour ago
113ever
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115Graye ao 1 hour ago
116I mean, Burmice herself, the character, is directly connected to the Bhael plot to begin with. She's not even in the guild IC, but has been included because of her involvement with the Bhael plot.
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118Kairos 1 hour ago
119Yes but Bhael isn't the reason she is being investigated
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121Kairos 1 hour ago
122we all know she's associated
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124Kairos 1 hour ago
125This is what happens when everyone "assumes"
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127Kairos 1 hour ago
128and when you rush on ahead you don't leave time for teh actual fact to come into play.
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130Kairos 1 hour ago
131but hey what do I know, i've only been pulled up on it a couple times;
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133Kairos 1 hour ago
134And I know there are going to be people out there who go "Oh your over-reacting" , Am I? Really? am I not allowed to be irritated, agitated or aggrivated over this action? am I not permitted this?
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136Graye ao 1 hour ago
137Bhael isn't the purpose of her investigation, true. But her investigation is an extension of events that transpired within the Bhael plot.
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139Kairos 1 hour ago
140That's your stance?
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142Kairos 1 hour ago
143Volkswagen motorgroup owns, Porsche and Lamborghini but those companies are allowed to make their own decisions.
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145Kairos 1 hour ago
146they may be an extension but they are their own entities
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148Graye ao 1 hour ago
149There are arguments for both sides. Of course you're allowed to be agitated, but can you really blame Burmice's player for wanting to have a say in 'his own' RP so to speak? So far Burmice has been allowed very little agency in the matter. I know she's a prisoner, but still.
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151Graye ao 1 hour ago
152And I don't think you can compare storylines to car companies
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154Kairos 1 hour ago
155Actually you can compare anything if you make the right links
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157Kairos 1 hour ago
158Burmice is more then permitted, but if your going to make a Trial post, Collaberate, When I got corrected on that horrid helms hold post, Khorak and I sat down and discussed the events, it was all pre-planned the outcome of events the overall goal, everything
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160Graye ao 1 hour ago
161Which is great. And while I still agree the trial post came out of nowhere, Burmice never includes a conclusion or outcome to it. There's only a delivery of information and an open ending allowing for reactions
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163Kairos 1 hour ago
164Which is what I wanted to do with the Trial, I wanted Lyv, Burmice and I to sit down and work out the trial write it out together and then post it all up at once. but Burmice is so adamant on pushing buttons to cause irriation... At what point, Avery would be at the trial for burmices confession or whatever you wish to call it, but icly she's suppose to be consulting with Cauri, this is where timelines get whitewashed
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166Graye ao 1 hour ago
167Yeah that is a bit of a shame. Maybe talk to him and ask if you could sit down for such a talk to get a more interactive trial scene out of it?
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169Khorak 51 mins ago
170why is there talk of a trial going on? I don't see anything in Burmy's post casting it as anything other than stuff she wants to say to the Lord Protector. And I also don't see that Burmy is out to cause 'irritation' with the info dump; it strikes me more as someone with no other options simply putting all her cards on the table.
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172Graye ao 50 mins ago
173Now that you mention it, that also makes sense. I made the assumption of trial because it's described "For the second time now, she stood before the court of the Lord Protector"
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175Khorak 49 mins ago
176Right; but 'court' in this sense is the ruling court, not a trial cout.
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178Luciifer 48 mins ago
179\o/ YAAAAYYYY!!!!!!
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181Khorak 48 mins ago
182yay indeed
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184Graye ao 48 mins ago
185In that case, it's not really out of place at all then.
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187Graye ao 48 mins ago
188Heheh
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190Luciifer 48 mins ago
1913-4 new posts on page 2 and all of page 3 of Tezras thread posted
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193Khorak 48 mins ago
194yep, just a kind of desperation move
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196Khorak 48 mins ago
197yay Tez!
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199Graye ao 48 mins ago
200Jesus fuck Luci
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202Luciifer 48 mins ago
203SHES SURFACE SIDE AGAIN YO
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205Luciifer 47 mins ago
206literally i have done nothing but write all day today haha
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208Khorak 45 mins ago
209good!
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211Luciifer 43 mins ago
212so burmy is gettin outta jail?
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214Khorak 43 mins ago
215no she just got an audience with Lord Protector to tell all
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217Graye ao 43 mins ago
218Not necessarily
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220Luciifer 42 mins ago
221Whatever happened to hold for 24 hours then charge her for something if you have proof or release her?
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223Khorak 42 mins ago
224that may be what it comes to anyway
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226Luciifer 39 mins ago
227Awww i was gonna sexy time with Bhael...but now i'm so exhausted creatively...
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229Luciifer 39 mins ago
230haha
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232Khorak 39 mins ago
233aaaww
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235Luciifer 39 mins ago
236yer goin to bed soon anyway silly
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238Khorak 39 mins ago
239yeah true
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241Luciifer 39 mins ago
242thank you for all your help !!
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244Luciifer 38 mins ago
245Tez will repay Bhael for your help. *eyebrow waggle*
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247Luciifer 37 mins ago
248in cookies!
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250Khorak 36 mins ago
251yay!
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253Luciifer 36 mins ago
254oh that reminds me Tez is gonna be SOO hungry haha
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256Khorak 36 mins ago
257lol
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259Luciifer 35 mins ago
260alright i'm gonna go to bed i'm spent!
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262Graye ao 35 mins ago
263Sleep well o/
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265Luciifer 35 mins ago
266nighty !
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268Khorak 35 mins ago
269yeah me too, g'nite
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271Graye ao 35 mins ago
272Night night!
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274Inquisitor_Rotafer o 27 mins ago
275I see I missed a shitstorm
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277Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
278I will say this much
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280Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
281All this is information burmy was meticulously collecting while she was Maddie's ally, just in case and even passively
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283Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
284There's tons of mention of it in her diaries
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286Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
287she cringed IC at some of the things being told ,plainly
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289Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
290she does have shit on Bhael too, less of it but fairly marked
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292Inquisitor_Rotafer o 26 mins ago
293But hey
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295Inquisitor_Rotafer o 25 mins ago
296He's not the one she wants to take revenge on
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298Inquisitor_Rotafer o 25 mins ago
299I mean, hell, she gloated to Elspeth that maybe she should go to Knox as she'd have interesting things to tell
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301Inquisitor_Rotafer o 24 mins ago
302I mean, I'm sorry, but there's such things as mutual ties. I presume this kind of thing is part of the reason why noone got he arrested yet, and conversely , a part of the reason she hasn't gone to the authorities herself - she didn't want to risk dipping herself in
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304Inquisitor_Rotafer o 23 mins ago
305and Kairos, unlike you I passed this by the GM, and hell, I have pages of paper notes from conversations where things are detailed out
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307Kairos 22 mins ago
308You passed it by Lyv, Elspeth and myself really? I dont recall getting a memo
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310Kairos 21 mins ago
311because this trial wasn't to do with the bhael plot inf act
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313Kairos 21 mins ago
314but hey that's what assuming gets ya right
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316Inquisitor_Rotafer o 21 mins ago
317And for the second time
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319Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
320The first time was Thia's arrest
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322Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
323Hahahah
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325Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
326It hasn't? In what damned sense? I asked Khorak whether it's reasonable she'd rant her way to an audience
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328Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
329he said yes
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331Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
332hence my rply
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334Inquisitor_Rotafer o 20 mins ago
335and now,when you're coming to parallel timelines being frustrating ,I agreee
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337Kairos 19 mins ago
338this trial wasn't to do with the bhael plot in fact, which doesn't make KHORAK the GM
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340Inquisitor_Rotafer o 19 mins ago
341I had a host of my plans boil to nothing because by the time things happened in forums far too slowly for them to be of usewhen they concluded
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343Inquisitor_Rotafer o 19 mins ago
344so welcome to my life
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346Inquisitor_Rotafer o 19 mins ago
347... what how
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349Kairos 19 mins ago
350how many times do we have to say this
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352Kairos 18 mins ago
353Elspeth detained her, but the investigation on her necromancy and various crimes, the kidnapping of anora was what this had to do with
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355Inquisitor_Rotafer o 18 mins ago
356So Elspeth trying to get rid of a soft target that's Bhael's ally and dip him in shit as a result is unrelated to Bhael
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358Inquisitor_Rotafer o 18 mins ago
359yes very much
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361Inquisitor_Rotafer o 18 mins ago
362Read her speech
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364Inquisitor_Rotafer o 18 mins ago
365She mentioned that, then mentioned her unlawful detainment (even though it produced evidence) and reasons for it
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367Inquisitor_Rotafer o 18 mins ago
368Besides, nothing happens /instantly/
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370Inquisitor_Rotafer o 17 mins ago
371Harpers are still free to act
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373Kairos 17 mins ago
374I live with Elspeth, I know everything she posts and clear everything with her. "Unlawful detainment" Seriously unlawful? The Use of demon's to break and enter and spy, is not grounds for detainment?
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376Inquisitor_Rotafer o 17 mins ago
377as is anyone eslse
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379Inquisitor_Rotafer o 16 mins ago
380The mansion Graye lives in is notably abandoned
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382Inquisitor_Rotafer o 16 mins ago
383and as far as I know, she came in with her own personal guard
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385Inquisitor_Rotafer o 16 mins ago
386it had nothing to do with city authorities
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388Inquisitor_Rotafer o 16 mins ago
389those joined in /later/
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391Kairos 16 mins ago
392Right but do you forget Elspeth is apart of shadow, and the shadow stones netowrk, Do you forget SHADOW the organization exists?
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394Inquisitor_Rotafer o 16 mins ago
395Burmy IC isn't entirely aware of it
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397Kairos 15 mins ago
398Your right she isn't
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400Inquisitor_Rotafer o 15 mins ago
401though she has a stone that's currently being analyzed
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403Inquisitor_Rotafer o 15 mins ago
404again, I presume Neverember isn't a Shadow member
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406Kairos 15 mins ago
407but a smart girl like burmice
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409Kairos 15 mins ago
410come on nothing gets by you
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412Inquisitor_Rotafer o 15 mins ago
413Thinks to herself that hell, maybe she can talk her life out of it, and if not, at least she'll drag everyone else down to hell with her.
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415Inquisitor_Rotafer o 12 mins ago
416I mean, hell
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418Inquisitor_Rotafer o 12 mins ago
419There might even be SHADOW spies listening to her testimony
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421Inquisitor_Rotafer o 12 mins ago
422probably warning people down the line that "OH SHIT"
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424Inquisitor_Rotafer o 11 mins ago
425And asides from consulting with the GM here's the difference between this and the thing with Helm's Hold.
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427Inquisitor_Rotafer o 11 mins ago
428I played my character as far as I could stretch it.
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430Inquisitor_Rotafer o 11 mins ago
431You wrote the action and the outcome
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433Inquisitor_Rotafer o 11 mins ago
434not allowing Khorak ...well, nothing to act on, really.
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436Inquisitor_Rotafer o 10 mins ago
437/that/ is what was the big problem. Well, that and that the outcome was hideously implausible
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439Kairos 10 mins ago
440Your right and I was pulled up on it, and "Discussed it with Khorak"
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442Inquisitor_Rotafer o 10 mins ago
443Guess what
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445Inquisitor_Rotafer o 10 mins ago
446I discussed with Khorak
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448Kairos 10 mins ago
449get over it burmice, The trial and your detainment are NOT apart of the bhael story line
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451Inquisitor_Rotafer o 10 mins ago
452and had to remove a bit of information (the bit about speak with dead) that was apparently retconned
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454Inquisitor_Rotafer o 10 mins ago
455... how
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457Kairos 9 mins ago
458Elspeth made the arrest on her own
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460Inquisitor_Rotafer o 9 mins ago
461...and?
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463Kairos 9 mins ago
464Making that event Hers
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466Kairos 9 mins ago
467She hands you to The tormites and harpers
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469Kairos 8 mins ago
470Making you Ours
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472Kairos 8 mins ago
473Hadning the reigns of the event over to us, or was lyv setting the rules of engagment with your character not clear enough
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475Kairos 7 mins ago
476Then making it noted that they were investigating your 'necromancy' and 'kidnapping'
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478Kairos 7 mins ago
479noto association with bhael
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481Inquisitor_Rotafer 7 mins ago
482... hahaha. Right , because suddenly you have run over every single NPC out there
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484Kairos 7 mins ago
485Right and Bhael controlls all the npc's in helms hold
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487Inquisitor_Rotafer 7 mins ago
488uh, the last I heard
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490Inquisitor_Rotafer 7 mins ago
491Will had spies there
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493Kairos 7 mins ago
494no
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496Kairos 7 mins ago
497he doesn't
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499Inquisitor_Rotafer 7 mins ago
500and whatnot
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502Kairos 7 mins ago
503You are grasping at straws
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505Inquisitor_Rotafer 6 mins ago
506No, I'm standing on a turf
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508Kairos 6 mins ago
509and your good at that, get overyourself
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511Kairos 6 mins ago
512Your not standing on anything but your own ego
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514Kairos 5 mins ago
515I'm done speaking with you...you are hardly worth the time of day, or waste of any further thought ta ta
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517Inquisitor_Rotafer 5 mins ago
518Because apparently this is a setting where someone fairly liked at court, and who has suddenly been arrested under odd cicumstances and been accused of capital crimes
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520Inquisitor_Rotafer 5 mins ago
521doesn't get to set testimony before the ruler
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523Inquisitor_Rotafer 5 mins ago
524but where a sought-after assassin can waltz in front of paladins
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526Kairos 4 mins ago
527Welcome to an IMAGINARY world of Imaginary make believe things, where unicorns exist and fairys dance on mushrooms..
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529Inquisitor_Rotafer 4 mins ago
530and where you can pry a barbarian army from the sack of a city without the use of a nuke
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532Inquisitor_Rotafer 4 mins ago
533Yes , an imaginary world
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535Inquisitor_Rotafer 4 mins ago
536which sitll has to make sense
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538Kairos 4 mins ago
539not getting baited
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541Kairos 3 mins ago
542I refuse to allow you to have any further ongoings within my life, hense forth.... cheers please do the kind thing and leave me be.
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544Inquisitor_Rotafer 3 mins ago
545Chesterton's Observation: "It really is more natural to believe a preternatural story, that deals with things we don't understand, than a natural story that contradicts things we do understand. Tell me that the great Mr. Gladstone, in his last hours, was haunted by the ghost of Parnell, and I will be agnostic about it. But tell me that Mr. Gladstone, when first presented to Queen Victoria, wore his hat in her drawingroom and slapped her on the back and offered her a cigar, and I am not agnostic at all. That is not impossible, it's only incredible. But I'm much more certain it didn't happen than that Parnell's ghost didn't appear; because it violates the laws of the world I do understand."
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547Inquisitor_Rotafer 3 mins ago
548I'll rest you with this
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550Inquisitor_Rotafer 3 mins ago
551it is the crux of what we're talking about here
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553Kairos 3 mins ago
554I repeat "I refuse to allow you to have any further ongoings within my life, hense forth.... cheers please do the kind thing and leave me be."
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556Inquisitor_Rotafer 2 mins ago [x]
557and what honestly had me upset throughout yesterday. And get over yourself, you aren't the sole person present