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· 6 years ago · Mar 13, 2019, 02:48 AM
1https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:48:41     Patryn  I don&#39;t see anything about verification here?
2https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:48:58     Patryn  Love the &#34;references&#34; section btw.
3https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:55:02     Patryn  Yeah
4https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:55:56     Patryn  Interesting. How is a contract calculated? Doesn&#39;t seem to be $100?
5https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:56:21     Patryn  Are they different? It just asks &#34;quantity&#34; and price.
6https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:56:51     Patryn  I don&#39;t see it stating XBU or XBT
7https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:56:59     Patryn  aha
8https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:57:00     Patryn  ah
9https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:57:21     Patryn  XBTH15, one contract $1.15?
10https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:57:41     Patryn  $1.
11https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:58:04     Patryn  Looks like gross value 0.0032 XBT for 1 contract of XBTH15
12https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 02:58:53     Patryn  Am I looking at this wrong? It seems like one contract is closer to one dollar in the XBT books?
13https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:03:10     Patryn  Ah. Gotcha. I guess that becomes more viable once your order books fill up a bit.
14https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:06:06     Patryn  So if i were to short 1000 units in XBTH15, I am entering into a contract to sell 3.55 bitcoins for $1260? I find this a bit confusing.
15https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:07:25     Patryn  Right, i&#39;m wondering how much profit as the &#34;quantity&#34; contract doesn&#39;t seem to correlate to anything that I see.
16https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:08:46     Patryn  Say I purchase 3.55 bitcoins at $320 on an exchange at spot right now, and then short 1000 units at $355 on XBTH15, am I pretty much guaranteed $35/coin in March unless you fold?.
17https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:09:00     Patryn  So roughly $100 profit after all fees?
18https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:11:13     Patryn  Sounds like another guide could be written for double futures + swap earnings.
19https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:11:51     Patryn  30% here, 30% to hedge this on another futures exchange, rest in swaps... at least until the arb is gone.
20https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:18:51     Patryn  Longest confirmations ever
21https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:19:03     Patryn  haha
22https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 03:36:15     Patryn  25m and counting, no confirmations. Slow day.
23https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:24:17     Patryn  Which, with 30% deposit, is $596
24https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:30:50     Patryn  Those exchanges also only require 2-10% margin. If you manually increase that to the 30% required by Bitmex, you won&#39;t find any instances of the market moving quickly enough for that to happen.
25https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:31:04     Patryn  I feel that it&#39;s more of a risk of high leverage exchanges, not a chinese exchange risk management issue.
26https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:32:26     Patryn  Unless I manually add margin on the other exchange as well, no? Outside of a rare clawback situation.
27https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:32:46     Patryn  It would need to move by $260 quickly for me to auto liquidate with 30% margin.
28https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:32:51     Patryn  You can add margin manually on OKCoin.
29https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:32:56     Patryn  In order to match the 30% default on BitMex.
30https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:33:54     Patryn  Could do an arb between two futures exchanges with only 30% down.
31https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:34:06     Patryn  stick the rest on BFX swaps.
32https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:34:21     Patryn  As a profit squeezing comparison to simple arb between two exchanges.
33https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:34:45     Patryn  There&#39;s roughly $24 difference between the March futures here and on okcoin
34https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:35:12     Patryn  I guess if I never check during that time period, it&#39;s an issue
35https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:35:20     Patryn  As a trader, that&#39;s unlikely to happen
36https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:36:07     Patryn  Goes down by $260, not to $60
37https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:36:11     Patryn  The price would have to be $60.
38https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:36:17     Patryn  With 30% margin
39https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:36:38     Patryn  Though my math may be missing something
40https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:37:28     Patryn  It&#39;s hedged in the other direction on the other exchange.
41https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:37:42     Patryn  If I lose on one from the price moving down, i&#39;m winning on the other.
42https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:38:01     Patryn  I earn from the price gap between the two exchanges, not from price movement. Right now, that gap exists because bitmex is a new exchange.
43https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:38:16     Patryn  super thin order book for march.
44https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:38:47     Patryn  I just cleared $15 of the order book with under 20 coins. I&#39;m thinking it&#39;s a temporary situation.
45https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:39:09     Patryn  trying to take advantage of it while I can. Took an hour to get my confirmation, glad nobody took the arb opp.
46https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 04:40:08     Patryn  The fees are extremely high for a new exchange with no MM. I figure they&#39;ll change it, people will join, arb will close.
47https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 13:19:50     Patryn  I believe it&#39;s currently both EU and US trading hours. Only $100 worth of asks on the March xbt order books.
48https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 13:20:30     Patryn  Sounds like you need more market makers. Your order books are incredibly thin.
49https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 14:08:22     Patryn  Wally, those contracts obviously were not on xbth15 when I complained. There were closer to 250 contracts worth of asks open, or less than one bitcoin worth of risk.
50https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 14:12:06     Patryn  Looks like your mm stuck an ask order at 368. One 40 coin order generally will not be seen as sufficient market depth for many traders to join and pay these fees... I feathered a few more asks in that book ad well. Hopefully helps. Would be cool to be able to close my position reasonably.
51https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2000            2014-12-22 14:16:28     Patryn  His bids are keeping quarterly pretty high. Still good arb available there.
52https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 16:35:48     Patryn  Looks like I currently have approx $9000 worth of open positions. I have over ten coins deposited. Despite only being at 54% margin used (2.63x leverage), my auto liquidation price for my quarterly order is 10% above my avg entry price (389). With the amount of margin available, it should be much higher no? How do I fix this?
53https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 16:36:30     Patryn  avg entry price being 358. Liquidation being 389.
54https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 16:37:08     Patryn  I should have this liquidation price with 10% margin. I see no option to manually add it. As your thin order books are causing a $40 gap for quarterly futures, i&#39;m concerned about liquidation.
55https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 19:51:00     Patryn  Shortly after I mentioned that in chat, the quarterly futures price jumped to $389 haha
56https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 19:51:05     Patryn  Someone tried to liquidate me ;p
57https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-23 19:53:05     Patryn  Wally: Gotcha. Thanks. It&#39;s a bit different from other exchanges, so taking me a bit to get used to.
58https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-26 08:50:33     Patryn  3 hours until my first bitmex settlement. How exciting.
59https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-26 16:13:41     Patryn  Where can I see details regarding my settled position?
60https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2014-12-26 19:38:16     Patryn  thank you
61https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:10:18     Patryn  20% drop, barely doubled my margin here. Tragic. Isn&#39;t there a max profit on this site? Perhaps I should close my position now.
62https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:21:19     Patryn  Is there a max profit on this site?
63https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:21:30     Patryn  I believe I read something about that somewhere.
64https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:48:15     Patryn  No. If there&#39;s no max profit, there&#39;s no issue.
65https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:48:44     Patryn  So if I have a short at 350, I can earn all the way to $100? Earn several hundred percent profit?
66https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2500            2015-01-04 15:49:38     Patryn  I was under the impression that capping profits was one of bitmex&#39;s ways of avoiding claw backs etc.
67https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3000            2015-01-13 23:56:12     Patryn  Hah. I got liquidated a few times there as well
68https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3000            2015-01-13 23:56:43     Patryn  Luckily I held on here with shorts from back when the MMs tried to liquidate me at $80 above index lol. Made back a small percentage of my OKC losses.
69https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=140500          2016-05-06 13:22:06     Patryn  Question: My entry price in XBTU16 is $581. Market price, $561. My unrealized PNL is in the negative... a $20 dip in my favour isn&#39;t enough to generate a profit?
70https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=140500          2016-05-06 13:24:04     Patryn  Gotcha, thanks.
71https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=148500          2016-05-28 22:18:28     Patryn  Yeah, I got liquidated hard on OKC futures
72https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=148500          2016-05-28 22:18:34     Patryn  Tried sending some deposits. No confirmations for over an hour.
73https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=148500          2016-05-28 22:18:54     Patryn  Liquidated at 572, it&#39;s 575 now. Would be nice to be able to add some coins at some point.
74https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=149500          2016-05-29 13:09:48     Patryn  When I place a trade, what is the estimated liquidation price in the pop up box? It&#39;s nowhere near the estimated liquidation price in my position box...
75https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=149500          2016-05-29 13:10:31     Patryn  It isn&#39;t merely adjusting for the potential order. It&#39;s also several hundred away if i place a one contract order.
76https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=149500          2016-05-29 13:13:33     Patryn  So the one in my positions section is accurate?
77https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=149500          2016-05-29 13:13:44     Patryn  Seems more accurate than the pop up one
78https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=149500          2016-05-29 13:14:44     Patryn  lol
79https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=166000          2016-06-13 15:21:13     Patryn  QQ
80https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=166000          2016-06-13 15:21:24     Patryn  Got liquidated near the top, rode that bitch for nearly $200.
81https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 08:49:43     Patryn  How is the &#34;mark price&#34; calculated? Wondering about this $175 spread for Quarterly.
82https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 08:50:33     Patryn  thank you
83https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 09:20:10     Patryn  lol
84https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 09:25:58     Patryn  Ã¢Ë†Å¾
85https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 09:27:02     Patryn  It&#39;s the infiniti symbol on my screen.
86https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 09:27:09     Patryn  infinity*
87https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=169500          2016-06-15 09:27:48     Patryn  U+221E
88https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1047500         2017-07-04 15:16:13     Patryn  We fell nearly 1%. This must be the big crash.
89https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096000         2017-07-15 14:16:10     Patryn  There are actually hundreds of legit waterfront homes in Brooklyn. It&#39;s amazing how often people screw up that joke.
90https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:17:15     Patryn  glad I loaded up on shorts during that bounce. Those 45k, 50k, and 20k sales were mine. Planning to start going long around 1980
91https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:17:58     Patryn  Seems like another GS self-fulfilling prophecy. Not the first time. Crash should end before 1850, then bounce.
92https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:18:45     Patryn  The profit that i&#39;ve made from predicting where to catch the falling knife is more of a favour than the stress of having to keep cost averaging down.
93https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:19:27     Patryn  60% of the time, he&#39;s right every time.
94https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:20:42     Patryn  Lets touch 1980 first so I can switch to long.
95https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1096500         2017-07-15 15:21:16     Patryn  It&#39;s the blood of crypto holders who just lost their newfound fortunes.
96https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1097500         2017-07-15 19:12:31     Patryn  If you need 2 to get laid, you have bigger problems, buddy
97https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1097500         2017-07-15 19:12:51     Patryn  lol
98https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1210500         2017-07-27 23:38:58     Patryn  Most probably, dude. I&#39;m going all in
99https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1210500         2017-07-27 23:39:56     Patryn  I&#39;m actually shorting this rise, expecting to close my position on a short term dip..
100https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1228500         2017-07-30 06:31:20     Patryn  3% freefall
101https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1230000         2017-07-30 12:27:13     Patryn  My understanding is that bitmex won&#39;t be providing bcc to those with btc on the platform. So our BTC becomes BCS only. BCC is currently trading at 12% the value of BTC, so we are expected, in a perfect market, to see a 12% drop in two days.
102https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:02:38     Patryn  Yeah i&#39;m not liking this random wave.
103https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:02:49     Patryn  Lot of people also have their coins off exchanges now, waiting.
104https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:02:57     Patryn  No volume on stamp or bfx
105https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:04:22     Patryn  Nice premium im an hour
106https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:06:23     Patryn  No volume or depth. Stamp can be moved $10 with a couple of coins
107https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1231500         2017-07-30 18:06:32     Patryn  and just was
108https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:08:43     Patryn  Under 3% for two months. Not too crazy. Usually a positive premium tho
109https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:09:42     Patryn  Bitmex isn&#39;t giving us BCC, and BCC is trading at 12% bitcoin value on other futures exchanges, so it makes sense that most of us expect a price drop of the core chain.
110https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:10:31     Patryn  With some conspiracy thinking thrown in: The BCC split is already priced in, and we&#39;re about to see an epic short squeeze.
111https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:12:04     Patryn  On BitMex, our xbt does not contain BCC (won&#39;t be given to us). I&#39;m thinking priced in on individual exchanges, not globally.
112https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:12:26     Patryn  Is kraken actually trading at a $60 premium though? Keep in mind that kraken takes 10-15 minutes to process a market order during movement like todays. I wonder if you can actually sell for that premium.
113https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:13:30     Patryn  Rado: No, check reddit. Literally hundreds of client complaints, people losing money left and right over this.
114https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:13:44     Patryn  arbee: Good point, plus arb would make it difficult as exchanges are still relatively close to each other globally.
115https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:15:02     Patryn  BCC is trading $325 on okcoin, etc. Shitcoin or not, a 12% bonus is a 12% bonus.
116https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:15:33     Patryn  Once the fork is complete, i&#39;ll move my coins back here.
117https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1233500         2017-07-31 01:16:26     Patryn  Problem is now with substantially fewer coins on the exchange, my leverage is much higher than i&#39;m used to. At risk of pretty serious rekt... assuming i&#39;m not the only one. We might see some fun liquidations soon.
118https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:41:13     Patryn  okex is a great place to trade BCC Futures now. Trading at around 12% btc value right now
119https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:42:42     Patryn  OKEX stopped deposits and withdrawals for three days.
120https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:44:36     Patryn  elmorte: Click on &#34;spot&#34; when you login to OKEX.com. THey just stopped it, but you were able to trade BCC against BTC.
121https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:44:48     Patryn  And until it stopped, it was trading at 12%+ BTC value.
122https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:45:23     Patryn  You were able to split your BTC into BCS and BCC on the exchange, then trade them against each other.
123https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:47:53     Patryn  What i&#39;m confused about is the value, and exchanges stance. The market has already pegged a value of 12%+ for BCC, or $330. Those with coins on exchange like bitmex will not get the BCC, so we have to either consider that the price of BTC here will drop by 12% and we should all be short, or it&#39;s already priced in and we&#39;re missing out on 12% free money.
124https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:50:10     Patryn  Bitmex seemed quite clear that it won&#39;t. &#34;prolly in a few months&#34; isn&#39;t the best basis for a financial decision. If many in the community are correct about it being a useless shitcoin, the 12% could be 1% by then.
125https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:51:22     Patryn  Not saying you&#39;re wrong about them changing their minds in a few months amid outcry of dissatisfied clients, just saying it could be too late.
126https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:55:27     Patryn  Skitrx: Why idiots? It&#39;s a great way to get free BCC if you&#39;re holding fiat.
127https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:56:12     Patryn  Skitrx: The majority of these people have very high margin, 3000+ won&#39;t be a problem.
128https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:56:14     Patryn  Buy coins using fiat, margin short on BFX
129https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:56:26     Patryn  They&#39;re able to short at 1:1
130https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:56:33     Patryn  Lock in value of USD, get free BCC.
131https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:57:23     Patryn  You wouldn&#39;t get much more if the price per bitcoin dropped, the short hedges your USD.
132https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:58:18     Patryn  stems: Say you have 100k USD sitting around in fiat, waiting for the bitcoin debacle to end as you have no idea where the price will go. Instead, you purchase 100k USD worth of coins on bitfinex at spot. Then you do a margin short position for the exact same number of coins.
133https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:58:43     Patryn  You lock in your coins value at $100k, no price movement will change your value due to the short position. However, bitfinex will give you free BCC.
134https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:59:15     Patryn  Binbbongfly: They have confirmed that they will.
135https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 11:59:54     Patryn  bingbongfly: Your quote does not refute my statement. Stating that the amount may not be 1:1 is not the same as saying that they will not be distributing the coins.
136https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:00:09     Patryn  No, you will not get 0
137https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:00:44     Patryn  The probability of 0 is negligable. I&#39;d say a larger risk is counterparty, due to BFX being BFX. As such, i did the same but borrowed some BTC and took most of mine off chain. I&#39;ve got a $3800 liquidation price.
138https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:01:49     Patryn  stems: My shorts in BFX insure my fiat, so i&#39;m not really concerned about the price. If you&#39;re asking about my entry for liquidation purposes, it&#39;s $2703 entry.
139https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:02:21     Patryn  I&#39;m paying a pretty high swap rate to borrow those bitcoins, 0.3% per day, but that&#39;ll only be for another dayish.
140https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:03:11     Patryn  Slightly_Favored: We&#39;d have to spike by nearly 40% in a day for me to get liquidated, then crash back down for that to matter. Not really concerned.
141https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:03:38     Patryn  The ratio isn&#39;t about longs:shorts, we are currently estimating 80%, not 30%
142https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:04:33     Patryn  If you margin short on BFX, you lock in your USD value.
143https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:04:50     Patryn  I&#39;m describing a strategy being used by those holding fiat to get free BCC on BFX. This isn&#39;t a crypto to crypto trading strategy.
144https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:08:37     Patryn  arbee: &#34;Note that if there&#39;s 60% the longs compared to shorts, that does not mean that you&#39;re getting 60% the BCH. You need to figure out the net liability of the system. f you need 20k BCH from the system to pay the shorters, and there&#39;s 100k btc on bitfinex then the you&#39;ll be getting 8 BCH on 10 BTC. So what matters is the net shorts vs longs in nominal terms, not the ratio.&#34;
145https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:09:02     Patryn  Current estimate is 80%.
146https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:09:20     Patryn  Keep in mind, my strategy is free BCC vs holding fiat. This strategy will give you more risk-free money than holding fiat.
147https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:10:34     Patryn  A lot of people are holding fiat, waiting for the dust to settle. Uncertainly of the split, possible devaluation due to current futures value of BCC, plenty of reason. You&#39;ve made a decision to enter a trade, others are holding on the sidelines waiting. This strategy will give them superior gains to holding fiat.
148https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:15:06     Patryn  Looks like bcc is down to 9.5% on viaBTC.
149https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:16:10     Patryn  elozar: Seems like viabtc/okex were a great deal, then. Will be interesting to see what happened.
150https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:16:14     Patryn  *happens
151https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:16:54     Patryn  I could wait the day or two of coin lockup for that much of a free money bonus.
152https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:17:03     Patryn  Unlikely to increase my stash by 12% by trading during those two days.
153https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:17:29     Patryn  aron: The strategy involves a margin short, it still works perfectly if BTC crashes tomorrow. In fact, it works better if BTC crashes tomorrow, otherwise you&#39;d be better off without the short.
154https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:18:12     Patryn  viaBTC and okex were the larger exchanges offering BCC futures. OKEX has stopped it today.
155https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:18:45     Patryn  arbee: Not ignoring you. Don&#39;t have access to the link right now, looking while trying to manage a few close-to-liquidation trades.
156https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:19:30     Patryn  arbee: Closed the tab before you asked for it. Usually work with a dozen tabs open, constantly opening/closing.
157https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1236000         2017-07-31 12:21:16     Patryn  aron: Not sure. Most exchanges seem to have halted, or are in the process of halting deposits as we speak.
158https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1237000         2017-07-31 13:48:32     Patryn  Margin spot exchange there, this is a futures platform
159https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1241000         2017-08-01 01:41:08     Patryn  They claimed their position.
160https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1241000         2017-08-01 01:42:00     Patryn  Looks like we&#39;re closer to 1:1 BCC distribution on BFX now.
161https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1245000         2017-08-01 11:31:19     Patryn  a real trader would consider trading to be going to work
162https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1251000         2017-08-02 03:16:40     Patryn  arbee: Quarterly is still at a discount, mex is definitely not bullish. There&#39;s a $10 premium coming in 43 minutes, hence the $10 premium on swap.
163https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:56:48     Patryn  Well this is cool. Received 0% of my coins on BFX as bcash
164https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:56:56     Patryn  hmmmYea: It is a thing, on okex etc.
165https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:57:35     Patryn  Bitmex isn&#39;t supporting bcash. Why would they allow bcash futures when they won&#39;t even credit our bcash coins?
166https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:58:20     Patryn  You not understanding != my statement not making sense.
167https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:58:28     Patryn  Creating a new trading pair, maintaining and implementing it, takes more work.
168https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:59:13     Patryn  Your welcome. As an exchange founder who is crediting bcash, I have a bit of insight.
169https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:59:21     Patryn  *You&#39;re
170https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 13:59:54     Patryn  We&#39;re crediting and allowing withdrawals of bcash today. Not allowing trading anytime soon, much bigger can of worms.
171https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:01:01     Patryn  Do you honestly DGAF now that the conversation isn&#39;t going your way, or am I expected to continue now that you&#39;re posting post-DGAF follow ups? You&#39;re a waste of time.
172https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:01:06     Patryn  bullwhale: Quadriga
173https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:01:47     Patryn  viaBTC seems to be accepting BCH deposits, but the number of confirmations required could take a day or two.
174https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:02:03     Patryn  MrRGnome: Scroll up. I said that I am the founder of Quadriga, not that I &#34;Work for&#34; Them.
175https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:02:59     Patryn  I Take pride in the 75% market share and $1M per month of revenue.
176https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:03:18     Patryn  Support could use some improvement, as is the case with most exchanges.
177https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:07:38     Patryn  hmmmyea: I believe that most exchanges will be listing it shortly due to demand. Everyone has it and now wants to trade it.
178https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:09:28     Patryn  The spike today shows quite a few buyers.
179https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:10:02     Patryn  arbee: Yes. I waited until the first bcash block was mined, safe now.
180https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:10:46     Patryn  Looks like bcash up to 0.26. Was at 0.08 last night.
181https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:12:06     Patryn  I turned fiat into a margin short on bfx. Got no bcash. Gotta love when exchange owners change their minds about crediting funds AFTER THE FACT and make those changes retroactive.
182https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:14:59     Patryn  arbee: It was a small short, around 200 coins. Was much larger here.
183https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:15:30     Patryn  I&#39;m glad that I didn&#39;t have 1:1 collateral for it. At least I got bcash for the coins I withdrew.
184https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:17:42     Patryn  arbee: A guy &#34;claimed&#34; like a 20k coin short. Compared to people like that, yeah, i&#39;m small potatoes.
185https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:22:24     Patryn  arbee: I&#39;m not sure if he was forced to claim it, or if it was voluntary. I wasn&#39;t given an option or any contact regarding it, but again, comparatively small potatoes.
186https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:23:34     Patryn  I bought some coins on BFX and placed margin short with around 1:2.5 leverage. Before the split. The coins which I had on the platform which were being used as collateral should have received the bcash... they did not.
187https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:24:00     Patryn  I turned some fiat into 200 bitcoins, then tried to short those 200 bitcoins on BFX.
188https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:24:29     Patryn  If it was a 1:1 margin ratio, i can understand some argument for possible manipulation. However, I was max leveraged, could have theoretically been liquidated. Took that risk, no upside.
189https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:25:39     Patryn  I exited my bfx short hours after the first bcash block was mined. Entered the position over 24h before the fork.
190https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:25:56     Patryn  My short position was insurance against my fiat balance, so the price didn&#39;t really matter when I was closing.
191https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:26:08     Patryn  *didn&#39;t matter to me
192https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:26:36     Patryn  No, my coins are still there.
193https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:27:20     Patryn  arbee: I would have done the same, but I decided that their official statement and official posts from drew could be considered trustworthy
194https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:27:40     Patryn  Stupid decision on my part. I&#39;ll have Stu contacted if I don&#39;t get my BCC soon.
195https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:47:31     Patryn  Sept premium finally disappering.
196https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:47:40     Patryn  Sept *discount
197https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:51:28     Patryn  Bunch of people in this trollbox and on reddit.
198https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:52:35     Patryn  I was bashed for a good 20m for deciding to take my coins off this platform for free bcash, in the trollbox. Now i have an extra six figures worth of coin while many are begging bmex for their &#34;worthless&#34; bcc. Hopefully it&#39;s still worth something by the time i can deposit and sell it somewhere.
199https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:53:32     Patryn  Seems to already be #3 for trading volume, despite deposits not being viable on any platform.
200https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:54:44     Patryn  A expect a ton of selling pressure at that time. We&#39;ll see how the buying side looks.
201https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:55:36     Patryn  I usually trade 5-10x here. I was up to 25x, and $13 away from a seven figure liquidation during the deposit/withdrawal suspension. I think I aged five years during that day.
202https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:56:13     Patryn  The price actually crossed my liquidation point a few minutes after deposits were re-enabled and mine went through. Was able to add margin *just* in time.
203https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:57:08     Patryn  Worst part is that it was on sept quarterly, so the discount turning into a premium could have liquidated me, instead of an actual spot move.
204https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1254000         2017-08-02 14:57:31     Patryn  Back to 5x now, slept soundly last night. Whew.
205https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1256500         2017-08-02 23:11:17     Patryn  Yep, waiting for exchanges to allow deposits.
206https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1256500         2017-08-02 23:12:18     Patryn  Numerous reports of delayed btc withdrawals and so forth, rather wait for an exchange i&#39;m more familiar with to accept it. Plus, with the number of confirmations they require, it could take a couple of days.
207https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1262500         2017-08-04 07:25:14     Patryn  Confirmation times seem to have decreased substantially with BCC. Took just a few minutes for me to get two confirmations.
208https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1262500         2017-08-04 07:27:39     Patryn  Slightly_Favored: It is. And there&#39;s a large price spread between exchanges. I&#39;m basically locking in the price by shorting on BFX while I wait for the bazillion confirmations needed on via and rex.
209https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1262500         2017-08-04 07:28:44     Patryn  Hmm. rex needs 20, why did I think the same for via. Thanks for the heads up
210https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1262500         2017-08-04 07:31:02     Patryn  hitbtc requires 2, but the price there is substantially lower.
211https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:08:58     Patryn  You can short bcc on bfx
212https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:14:18     Patryn  Ahhere: Yep. I&#39;ve made quite a bit, shorting from this morning. For the most part, it&#39;s useful as a hedge while waiting for confirmations.
213https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:14:48     Patryn  BFX wants something like 20 confirmations for BCC deposits. You can simply short BCH using XBT as margin, then claim once your deposit confirms.
214https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:15:16     Patryn  Arbee: Still 20. I&#39;m now at 9/20 from my deposit last night
215https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:15:25     Patryn  hitbtc requires 2.
216https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:16:08     Patryn  Made over 30% shorting from this morning.
217https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:16:36     Patryn  Finex.
218https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:16:48     Patryn  Waiting for my bcc deposits to clear
219https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:18:20     Patryn  15
220https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:19:18     Patryn  arbee: Finex also doesn&#39;t seem to list it. however, once you deposit, you see that circle counter which states 0/15 confirmations.
221https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:19:54     Patryn  I&#39;ll be paying around 0.25% interest for the day while waiting for confirmations. So far, that hedge has saved me 30%
222https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1264000         2017-08-04 15:21:44     Patryn  Nice rate.
223https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:21:13     Patryn  lol. 100x? 50x?
224https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:24:27     Patryn  Price is down less than 1%...
225https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:26:29     Patryn  I think we play in very different leverage sandboxes. My hair would turn grey if I had to deal with bitcoin volatility with 25-50x leverage.
226https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:28:06     Patryn  I trade with lower leverage.
227https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:28:24     Patryn  Your game is more exciting.
228https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:36:47     Patryn  valanity: Usually 5-10x
229https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:37:46     Patryn  Sleep better with lower leverage. I can&#39;t count the number of times I was awoken by a price alert last year.
230https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1265000         2017-08-04 19:38:17     Patryn  A 10% movement while I sleep isn&#39;t incredibly uncommon.
231https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:40:00     Patryn  No...
232https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:40:23     Patryn  You would need triggers, I don&#39;t believe that feature is available through the web interface.
233https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:42:32     Patryn  Self-fulfilling prophecy, not the first time we&#39;ve had that with goldman sachs predictions of crypto
234https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:43:38     Patryn  Premium disappearing again, looks like sentiment is beariish
235https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:53:00     Patryn  Quarterly premium still well under 1%. Hmm.
236https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1307500         2017-08-10 14:57:00     Patryn  I&#39;m pretty heavily short.
237https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532000         2017-09-09 12:16:47     Patryn  Hmm. Orders placed on XBTU17 don&#39;t seem to show up in the order book.
238https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532000         2017-09-09 12:17:00     Patryn  PLaced and cancelled a couple of bids, refreshes and the like.
239https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532000         2017-09-09 12:18:32     Patryn  Seems like it was lag, that was one hell of a spike. All good now
240https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532000         2017-09-09 12:20:04     Patryn  I&#39;m just moving my hedges over from quarterly to perpetual
241https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532000         2017-09-09 12:20:17     Patryn  PRice action choppy, i don&#39;t see a clear direction right now.
242https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532500         2017-09-09 12:26:16     Patryn  want another 125k?
243https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=1532500         2017-09-09 12:27:15     Patryn  lol
244https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2064500         2017-10-23 02:58:35     Patryn  Wow, look at that quarterly premium
245https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2064500         2017-10-23 03:20:27     Patryn  Wow, lot of liquidations for such a small % drop.
246https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:47:45     Patryn  Wow, there we go. Negative premium on quarterly
247https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:47:51     Patryn  perpetual is higher
248https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:48:25     Patryn  If you&#39;re expecting a rise today, looks like a great time to quarterly long
249https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:49:32     Patryn  I still have my massive shorts, sitting here thinking about that attractive quarterly long.
250https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:49:40     Patryn  Fighting sentiment can be profitable, though I suppose risky.
251https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069000         2017-10-23 10:52:45     Patryn  Banks opening in a couple of hours in the states. If there&#39;s a correlation, that should be relevant.
252https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:53:46     Patryn  No, they go to the banks and send wires in order to fund their exchange accounts and get bitcoin. NO claims of magic involved.
253https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:55:06     Patryn  Bank wires usually are a one day thing for larger banks.
254https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:55:16     Patryn  SEPA is usually same day to one day, domestic usually same day
255https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:55:47     Patryn  Don&#39;t need proof, it&#39;s common sense that the average American with disposable income holds it in the bank. If said person decided to purchase bitcoin after Friday afternoon, he would have to wait until two hours from now for the banks to open in order to move fiat for purchase.
256https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:56:39     Patryn  Yes, I pulled common sense and facts regarding banking hours out of my ass...
257https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:58:10     Patryn  Facts regarding banking hours and where disposable income is held. I did not presume that this would lead to a pump.
258https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 10:59:26     Patryn  bfx usd funding rate dropped from 0.16 to 0.09 during the last few hours.
259https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 11:00:31     Patryn  angelobtc: I&#39;m thinking the same, holding my shorts.
260https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2069500         2017-10-23 11:01:27     Patryn  Quarterly sentiment seems to agree. Negative premium looking super attractive to enter a long, will likely do so after a more violent correction. Lets see some larger liquidations.
261https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2083000         2017-10-24 03:06:54     Patryn  Every site didn&#39;t, the official BTG website and numerous others have had countdown timers.
262https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2083000         2017-10-24 03:12:32     Patryn  BFX was at $5543 for a sec. Futures crashed hard during that drop
263https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2083000         2017-10-24 03:13:39     Patryn  obviously. i&#39;m going to mortgage my house and yolo 50x
264https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:24:31     Patryn  bmex won&#39;t be giving out b2x coins. They&#39;re currently trading for nearly $900. So in theory, post fork, our quarterly futures should drop by said $900. In an efficient market, of course.
265https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:27:09     Patryn  PenDrg0n: Look closelier, lol.
266https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:27:15     Patryn  Quarterly futures $5524
267https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:27:34     Patryn  Badbets: What do you mean by bullshit?
268https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:28:21     Patryn  18 days?
269https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:28:53     Patryn  Why $1500? B2X coins are worth around $900 right now.
270https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:29:31     Patryn  Badbets: You can currently trade B2x futures on other exchanges such as BitFinex. On these exchanges, you could go long on the core coin, then short here, to lock in a 10% arbitrage profit.
271https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:30:18     Patryn  Your reasoning is similar to that of those before BCH, who left their coins here because that &#34;shitcoin&#34; would have no value. I remember those same people crying on trollbox about their &#34;stolen&#34; shitcoin the next day.
272https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:31:15     Patryn  I&#39;m assuming that those attempting to profit from the arbirtage spread or expected price gap aren&#39;t gambling with 25-50x leverage.
273https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:31:26     Patryn  I&#39;m using 5x right now, fairly large positions.
274https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:31:45     Patryn  Upon settlement, there should be a clear 10%+ profit.
275https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151000         2017-10-28 10:32:55     Patryn  5868 perpetual, 5941 quarterly
276https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:33:14     Patryn  $1.5M and $2.4M respectively. I&#39;m not loving these swap funding fees.
277https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:34:44     Patryn  Frog: Short positions, i&#39;m not long at the moment.
278https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:35:57     Patryn  @BadBets In theory, the price of index should rise at least somewhat alongside the rise of quarterly futures. If the price were to increase by $600 tomorrow, it would be around 6% higher than current index.
279https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:36:09     Patryn  It doesn&#39;t have to go up at the same ratio as futures.
280https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:36:48     Patryn  Futures will settle at index, which will lock in that arbitrage profit. Until then, there will be a bit of volatility. I Would imagine that if futures here increased by $600 without a rise of index purely due to sentiment, that even more people would be taking advantage of the now nearly 20% spread.
281https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:37:22     Patryn  You can trade B2X tokens against XBT on Bitfinex. So yes, same ratio increase as index.
282https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:37:54     Patryn  Currently 0.87 bitcoins per B2X coin
283https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:38:23     Patryn  bitfinex.com
284https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:39:13     Patryn  https://www.bitfinex.com/trading/BT1BTC
285https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:40:34     Patryn  I did this with about 50 coins a couple of days ago. Grabbed BC1 tokens on BFX, shorted here. Of course, there wasn&#39;t a 4% discount then.
286https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:41:14     Patryn  Made around 10% on the split, should make another 10% on the arb.
287https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:42:29     Patryn  Sure, but there&#39;s no zero involved here.
288https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:42:44     Patryn  Pre-sold my B2X tokens, doesn&#39;t matter if it becomes a shitcoin.
289https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:43:10     Patryn  You&#39;re a valuable addition to this trollbox.
290https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:43:23     Patryn  Such great key advice, I don&#39;t know where I would be without you
291https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:43:38     Patryn  Tarnation: Didn&#39;t sell all of them, just a few to play this spread.
292https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:44:37     Patryn  B2X happens in around 19 days. You can only trade the futures.
293https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:45:30     Patryn  Supporting exchanges allow you to split your XBT into BC1 and BC2 on their platform, trade futures for both chains.
294https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:45:41     Patryn  Upon settlement, you get the appropriate number of both coins.
295https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:45:51     Patryn  or upon fork
296https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:46:09     Patryn  No, it only requires that the ratio be similar upon settlement.
297https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:46:44     Patryn  They&#39;re both. You&#39;re trading said IOU&#39;s based ont he future price of a nonexistent asset.
298https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:46:54     Patryn  Badbets: The ratio
299https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:47:57     Patryn  If I buy BC1 at $5000 right now and short at $5700, I would expect a 14% spread upon settlement. Similar to my entry. If there is volatility between now and then changing the ratio, that doesn&#39;t really change my plans other than ensuring that I have enough margin to ride it out.
300https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:48:23     Patryn  and i&#39;d probably wish I had beek lucky enough to take advantage of that more profitable entry.
301https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:48:53     Patryn  Most seem to believe the odds are incredibly low. Why do you believe them to be high?
302https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2151500         2017-10-28 10:52:03     Patryn  BFX TOS also seems to infer that it is extremely unlikely that only one chain survives. Seems like the only issue which separates this is the opt-in replay protection.
303https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2152000         2017-10-28 11:47:34     Patryn  High risk, high potential return as a contrarian investor. The short premium exists for a reason.
304https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2152500         2017-10-28 11:50:32     Patryn  OKEx quarterly futures also tanked
305https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2152500         2017-10-28 11:50:37     Patryn  $5296
306https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2152500         2017-10-28 11:50:45     Patryn  weekly at $5640
307https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2152500         2017-10-28 11:56:50     Patryn  There we go, glad I didn&#39;t switch from short to long for funding. Just dropped much more than the %
308https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2165000         2017-10-29 16:09:14     Patryn  Anyone else getting almost kraken-like latency issues here?
309https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2216000         2017-11-02 05:15:10     Patryn  Traders are giving it such a discount due to where index is coming from. There&#39;s a wide disparity between prices right now.
310https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2216000         2017-11-02 05:16:00     Patryn  FOMO buying on GDAX, $6988. It&#39;s $6836 on BFX.
311https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2216000         2017-11-02 05:20:08     Patryn  aaaqwerqwef: No, funding fees would be the issue.
312https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2218000         2017-11-02 07:14:29     Patryn  dwarrel: Support upside?
313https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2223500         2017-11-02 11:22:12     Patryn  BitMEX_Stefan: Many of us are experiencing problems with exiting trades on your system, please check again.
314https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2223500         2017-11-02 11:22:33     Patryn  BitMEX_Stefan: Many of us are experiencing problems with exiting trades on your system, please check again. I just received two gateway timeouts in a row when attempting to exit a position. Your slight lag is actually intense lag which is making your system unusable.
315https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2223500         2017-11-02 11:23:02     Patryn  ...still can&#39;t exit a position or place a trade. Consistent timeouts fro minutes.
316https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2223500         2017-11-02 11:23:39     Patryn  Bitmex trading engine starting to remind me of Kraken. Tech issues resulting is our loss of funds. This seems to be happening all the time now.
317https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2223500         2017-11-02 11:25:17     Patryn  remember_me: Could start by accepting/recognizing the problem. TElling us that there are no issues when the entire trollbox is complaining about issues isn&#39;t cool.
318https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2224000         2017-11-02 11:27:01     Patryn  ORder timeout, then both appear, now i can&#39;t cancel the other one. Awesome.
319https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2543000         2017-11-12 23:25:30     Patryn  Wow, so the current required bitmex bitcoin withdraawl fee is over $60?
320https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=2543000         2017-11-12 23:26:59     Patryn  @ @GodBleesYou Yep, 0.0112 bitcoins.
321https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3279500         2017-12-07 11:22:34     Patryn  Korean market is at $17.5k
322https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3287000         2017-12-07 15:19:27     Patryn  Interesting. I have a 280 coin short, 68 coins margin, says 9.5x
323https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3287500         2017-12-07 15:29:20     Patryn  Margin &#34;X&#34; seems to be broken. I&#39;ve got 25% margin, shows 10x
324https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3305000         2017-12-07 23:54:41     Patryn  A *new* lambo still costs nowhere near 10xbt. Weird site, showing prices for used lambos
325https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3390000         2017-12-10 03:18:13     Patryn  DarcWynd021: The swaps are taken in BTC from one side and given to the other side. BTC is not bought or sold for it, and this leverage does not come from coins being moved on market. I suggest looking up how futures actually works before giving advice.
326https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3390000         2017-12-10 03:23:02     Patryn  lol
327https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3391500         2017-12-10 04:05:38     Patryn  xmr crashing, mymonero down with sync issues. People having difficulty selling
328https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3392000         2017-12-10 04:08:13     Patryn  system overloaded again :(
329https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3829000         2017-12-22 03:20:56     Patryn  Would be cool if I could submit an order. Success is more like 1/30 now
330https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3829500         2017-12-22 03:24:14     Patryn  More like $200 jump on spot. A futures jump when the system is overloaded isn&#39;t the best indicator.
331https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3829500         2017-12-22 03:26:48     Patryn  lol &#34;never short bitcoin&#34; right after a 32% drop
332https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3829500         2017-12-22 03:27:17     Patryn  The real lesson is don&#39;t short bitcoin with excessive leverage.
333https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3839500         2017-12-22 08:34:04     Patryn  March premium has been cut in half
334https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3839500         2017-12-22 08:34:06     Patryn  Was 13% a few days ago
335https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3849000         2017-12-22 14:34:46     Patryn  CME cirtcuit breakers supposed to kick in at 20%, no?
336https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3932500         2017-12-26 04:39:27     Patryn  I wonder when bmex plans on reducing the withdrawal fee. Still looking at $100.
337https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3932500         2017-12-26 04:40:12     Patryn  A 0.0065xbt fee is not necessary for reasonable confirmation. It is higher than the fee on any other exchange that I can find.
338https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3932500         2017-12-26 04:40:54     Patryn  0.0065xbt isn&#39;t $41...
339https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3932500         2017-12-26 04:41:34     Patryn  bundabrg: Gotcha. Thanks.
340https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=3933000         2017-12-26 05:16:29     Patryn  Just opened a short. Expecting a dip or sufficient choppiness from here to close in the short term.
341https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4003500         2017-12-28 15:49:58     Patryn  Nice being a moron shorter when the price is trending downwards.
342https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4213000         2018-01-05 09:57:45     Patryn  We need a Blockfolio Pro version. Seems to collapse during every major movement
343https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4342000         2018-01-11 03:10:21     Patryn  btcfomo: lol yes we are, it&#39;s after 10am here.
344https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4342500         2018-01-11 03:10:26     Patryn  11am in hong kong
345https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4342500         2018-01-11 03:10:51     Patryn  btcfomo: Most of &#34;asia&#34; is up well before 10am.
346https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4460000         2018-01-16 02:52:37     Patryn  so... Bitfinex deleveraged my highly profitable short which has a liquidation of 25k
347https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4460000         2018-01-16 02:52:42     Patryn  Any idea why that would happen?
348https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4460000         2018-01-16 02:53:10     Patryn  Oh, I was penalized for being too proftaible. Awesome.
349https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4913500         2018-01-30 19:37:43     Patryn  One day, the system will stop being overloaded and actually place an order.
350https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4922500         2018-01-31 01:09:09     Patryn  ETH and XMR also down equally. Altcoins down 20%
351https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4922500         2018-01-31 01:09:11     Patryn  Has to be more than tether fud
352https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=4965000         2018-02-01 11:00:08     Patryn  lol can anyone place an order here?
353https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=5054000         2018-02-03 11:59:28     Patryn  so is there some sort of backup option available for times such as this where i&#39;d like to amend/cancel an order but the system is overloaded? 12 tries.
354https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=5148000         2018-02-05 22:50:21     Patryn  This is going to become like Kraken soon
355https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=5148000         2018-02-05 22:50:28     Patryn  Any bit of volatility and the trading engine is overloaded
356https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=7466500         2018-03-18 02:45:30     Patryn  Damn, russian, TMI about your anal adventures.
357https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8381500         2018-03-30 09:25:15     Patryn  TROLLL: yes
358https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8672500         2018-04-03 09:35:05     Patryn  lol, nobody trading on U18. This is like watching paint dry. Finally made it up to my sell order, and now sitting fitty cent away.
359https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8672500         2018-04-03 09:38:09     Patryn  Applying for welfare now
360https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8672500         2018-04-03 09:38:49     Patryn  lol. It&#39;s actually part of a hedge. But TBH, i did lose like $500k in funding premiums this year by stupidly having too much of the hedge in perpetual.
361https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8672500         2018-04-03 09:39:01     Patryn  maybe more. hmm
362https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8673000         2018-04-03 09:41:07     Patryn  paloalto: Have to scale in., particularly on quarterly.
363https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8673000         2018-04-03 09:41:35     Patryn  Moved $3M from perpetual to quarterly a few days ago, had to place 12 orders. If you see a bunch of $250k or $400k orders popping up, it&#39;s probably me ;p
364https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8673000         2018-04-03 09:42:41     Patryn  persian: No, just closed my long from 7k. Re-shorting soon.
365https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8673000         2018-04-03 09:44:29     Patryn  Whale Poacher: Long-term, i&#39;m short. I scalp long trades based on sentiment and momentum.
366https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8673000         2018-04-03 09:48:56     Patryn  Stone Cold Steve Austin: 5x
367https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8674000         2018-04-03 10:05:35     Patryn  haha
368https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8793000         2018-04-05 01:08:20     Patryn  GypsÃƒÂ¼-TokohotzÃƒÂ» lines are intersecting on the near-term elliot wave. I&#39;m going long!
369https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8793000         2018-04-05 01:09:53     Patryn  Kuta837: Gotta focus on your plumbing issue first
370https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8793000         2018-04-05 01:10:45     Patryn  weiron: Heavy risks provide heavy rewards. Do you want to retire in a yacht, or a jetta?
371https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8823000         2018-04-05 11:23:19     Patryn  Jesus, finally
372https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8823000         2018-04-05 11:24:00     Patryn  aeaeaa: I&#39;ve been trying to get that filled for awhile with 250k chunks, then was chasing up the price. Good to finally have it closed.
373https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8834000         2018-04-05 14:14:31     Patryn  gogo short squeeze
374https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8834500         2018-04-05 14:15:53     Patryn  Far too many people over leveraged. That was pretty crazy for that quick 1% pump
375https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942000         2018-04-07 04:49:50     Patryn  Everyone seems to be selling, this damned wall isn&#39;t going anywhere.
376https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942000         2018-04-07 04:52:01     Patryn  Aw come on, i&#39;ve been waiting for someone to buy my 6848 forever. mini walls keep moving under it
377https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942000         2018-04-07 04:52:37     Patryn  jinbi: ecstatic
378https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942500         2018-04-07 04:53:03     Patryn  jinbi: Have a massive long position, starting to close it.
379https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942500         2018-04-07 04:54:18     Patryn  SteveS.: &#34;One&#34; of the worst that you&#39;ve ever visited? Which rapey countries do you frequent which you&#39;ve found to be worse?
380https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942500         2018-04-07 04:59:35     Patryn  chrisjooones: Your education and google-fu are lacking, then.
381https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=8942500         2018-04-07 04:59:55     Patryn  Canada has Sanctions against 19 countries
382https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9246000         2018-04-12 03:00:14     Patryn  Futures still lagging far behind with no volume, tragic.
383https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9246000         2018-04-12 03:00:38     Patryn  Everyone &#34;talking&#34; about going long for the short squeeze, but funding rate and futures are still short.
384https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9338000         2018-04-13 07:56:33     Patryn  Wow. 73 attempts in a row to add margin, system overloaded. I guess your awesome tech is going to get me liquidated.
385https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9338500         2018-04-13 07:57:40     Patryn  This is becoming pretty useless as a place to trade. Only the troll box works reliably.
386https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9338500         2018-04-13 08:00:36     Patryn  218 attempts and counting. Site still has no functional trading features.
387https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9338500         2018-04-13 08:01:25     Patryn  Stone Cold Steve Austin: I could send him a text, but that won&#39;t get this fixed in time.
388https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9463000         2018-04-15 05:19:20     Patryn  Hah, i had set a couple of buy orders before going to bed. Just realized that this one filled
389https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9524500         2018-04-16 05:16:58     Patryn  I wish I could close m y short.
390https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9524500         2018-04-16 05:17:10     Patryn  One day Bitmex. Will work during movement
391https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9938000         2018-04-22 12:56:43     Patryn  Stops under 5%, will add to my position if we dip a bit more. I think we&#39;re going up for awhile.
392https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=9938000         2018-04-22 12:56:53     Patryn  10x
393https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10042500        2018-04-24 00:41:20     Patryn  I think the trollbox is the only thing working
394https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10045500        2018-04-24 01:23:27     Patryn  lol. It&#39;s a Hedge, but still depressing to see that number red.
395https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10045500        2018-04-24 01:24:39     Patryn  scalping: No, I sold at $17k average. Have been closing and reopening my hedge to lower CB. I&#39;ve been auto-deleveraged a few times in the past, best to keep hedge in teh red on bitmex.
396https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10045500        2018-04-24 01:25:06     Patryn  scalping: Also futures. Expired, had to re-open ;p
397https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10046000        2018-04-24 01:26:06     Patryn  sayword: Bitmex can auto-develerage a heavily profitable position. This means they will force you to close part of your position, automatically, without your knowing.
398https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10046000        2018-04-24 01:26:35     Patryn  I&#39;ve had them auto-deleverage part of a hedge while I was asleep. Woke up to see the price much lower, I lost quite abit of money.
399https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10065500        2018-04-24 06:56:53     Patryn  Where&#39;d the mods go?
400https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:13:22     Patryn  Zapoes: you mean m18?
401https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:14:21     Patryn  Where do I put my gamblers fund donation address
402https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:14:28     Patryn  rekt2riches: hedge
403https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:15:18     Patryn  FakeMoney: I&#39;m mostly out right now. My only trade is a 400k short from a couple of percent up.
404https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:17:13     Patryn  Tax loss harvesting
405https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:17:16     Patryn  Lol
406https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10166500        2018-04-25 10:19:22     Patryn  Antone: liquidation closer to 11k. Plenty of margin left
407https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10167000        2018-04-25 10:23:12     Patryn  Antone: it&#39;s a hedge. Joking around. No worries.
408https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10240000        2018-04-26 08:50:27     Patryn  Going downnn
409https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10240000        2018-04-26 08:50:59     Patryn  pouria: 10x
410https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10244500        2018-04-26 10:20:26     Patryn  gogo
411https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10356000        2018-04-28 01:43:48     Patryn  gogo
412https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10356000        2018-04-28 01:44:21     Patryn  LongKingCrypt0: Not a hedge. This is my hedge:
413https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10356000        2018-04-28 01:45:26     Patryn  LongKingCrypt0: Last two are hedges. My only trade is $3M short at $8895. I&#39;m good.
414https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10356000        2018-04-28 01:46:20     Patryn  Felk: lol
415https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10356000        2018-04-28 01:47:49     Patryn  Ã°Å¸â€Æ’ XBTUSD: YourMom Cont @ 6495.5
416https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:01:35     Patryn  Loving these funding rebates
417https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:02:03     Patryn  From like two days ago. Another 0.235 xbt in an hour
418https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:02:50     Patryn  More commenting on the funding rebates
419https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:03:12     Patryn  FRENZY_: 7200?
420https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:03:28     Patryn  Oh, thta&#39;s futures
421https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:03:43     Patryn  I have futures hedges on quarterly. This is a perpet trade
422https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10359000        2018-04-28 03:05:04     Patryn  ace85: I&#39;m hedged from over 14k average. Had to renew quarterly when it expired, so shows a lower entry.
423https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10362000        2018-04-28 04:04:01     Patryn  TT
424https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10362000        2018-04-28 04:04:50     Patryn  Someone once told me that the market can stay irrational longer than I can stay solvent. I say, challenge accepted!
425https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10362000        2018-04-28 04:05:21     Patryn  Freeride: Unless something crazy happens, yeah. Nice premium, no faith.
426https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10362000        2018-04-28 04:06:09     Patryn  Freeride: ADAM18? Yes.
427https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10362500        2018-04-28 04:10:54     Patryn  Lets get that funding rebate back, gogo
428https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381000        2018-04-28 10:01:39     Patryn  Is SloppySnynapses here?
429https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381000        2018-04-28 10:02:14     Patryn  Houdini84: It was you!
430https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381000        2018-04-28 10:03:25     Patryn  hi :)
431https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381000        2018-04-28 10:03:53     Patryn  Yah, scroll up.
432https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:04:24     Patryn  GR33DYa: No, my hedges are in quarterly
433https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:04:59     Patryn  My hedge average price is closer to 14k. Had to renew when quarterly expired, so appears like a lower entry.
434https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:06:02     Patryn  jovinok: For which position?
435https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:07:05     Patryn  n00bn00b: Hedge.
436https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:08:08     Patryn  jovinok: I&#39;m up around 500% from trading, but have been at it for a few years.
437https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:08:52     Patryn  jovinok: I run a fund but I don&#39;t trade with client money. Personal.
438https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10381500        2018-04-28 10:09:32     Patryn  jovinok: Expecting this to fall under 8500. Will abandon my position if we clear 9400 with strength.
439https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:11:09     Patryn  gmoney1: lol not any more. I hated my Gallardo, but am willing to try a Murcielago in the future. I live in a crowded downtown area, Bentley GT and Tesla S.
440https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:13:41     Patryn  This is annoying, why won&#39;t it fall ;p
441https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:14:17     Patryn  Geckoo: Market is still bearish, zoom out.
442https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:16:14     Patryn  gmoney1: That&#39;s an interesting comment. Both CBOE and CME futures are under spot.
443https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:16:21     Patryn  That&#39;s &#34;bearish&#34;, not bullish...
444https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:16:47     Patryn  jovinok: No. Sorry.
445https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382000        2018-04-28 10:18:26     Patryn  DacoMax: We were at nearly 12k twice since then. Not clearing a bottom doesn&#39;t mean bullish.
446https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382500        2018-04-28 10:19:23     Patryn  gmoney1: I certainly dont&#39; take 500m traded to show a price under spot to be a bullish sign.
447https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10382500        2018-04-28 10:19:45     Patryn  DacoMax: Sounds like you need to unbunch your panties and take a breather.
448https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10442500        2018-04-29 08:53:56     Patryn  Perpet being stubborn
449https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10442500        2018-04-29 08:53:58     Patryn  gogogo
450https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10452500        2018-04-29 11:48:30     Patryn  Loving these 0.5xbt swap funding payments. Now, if we could just drop another 2.5%...
451https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10453000        2018-04-29 11:59:02     Patryn  TracerQ: Click on the &#34;Hidden&#34; button when selling.
452https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10453000        2018-04-29 11:59:11     Patryn  It&#39;s one of your like three options.
453https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10564000        2018-05-01 01:40:50     Patryn  Including funding rates and maker fees, finally out of the red.
454https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10564500        2018-05-01 01:41:39     Patryn  iamwudi: Expecting it to drop further.
455https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10564500        2018-05-01 01:41:49     Patryn  fssssss: LOL, this isn&#39;t a 100X position. Not rekt.
456https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10753000        2018-05-03 23:09:47     Patryn  Almost wonder how people are placing all these orders. Only the trllbox working for me
457https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10903500        2018-05-06 06:29:19     Patryn  Been holding this for days, finally profitable. 1.5XBT in funding fees.
458https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10903500        2018-05-06 06:29:54     Patryn  SteveS,: My short is like two day sold.
459https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10903500        2018-05-06 06:30:14     Patryn  SteveS,: Raked in 1.5 bitcoins worth of funding fees during the chop.
460https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10919000        2018-05-06 10:16:01     Patryn  From swaps
461https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10919500        2018-05-06 10:18:15     Patryn  YOOJONGHWA: Ãâ€“â€°Ã¬Å¡Â´Ã¬ï¿½â‚¬ ÃªÂµÂµÃ¬ï¿½â‚¬ ÃªÂ¸â‚¬Ã¬â€Â¨Ã«Â¥Â¼ Ã¬â€žÂ ÃËœÂ¸Ãâ€¢Å“Ã«â€¹Â¤.
462https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10921500        2018-05-06 11:05:12     Patryn  Trailing stops sent, gogogo
463https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10922000        2018-05-06 11:06:28     Patryn  K06: Trailing stops staggered below my CB.
464https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10922000        2018-05-06 11:07:08     Patryn  Will be AFK for the next few hours, will rest more peacefully with the stops. Otherwise would monitor.
465https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10922000        2018-05-06 11:07:46     Patryn  Moneyboy: Why? Love it. As a trader, volatility is my friend.
466https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=10922000        2018-05-06 11:08:37     Patryn  arbee101: Nice
467https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=11172000        2018-05-10 09:30:28     Patryn  Climb so slowww
468https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=11172500        2018-05-10 09:34:20     Patryn  jovinok: Closed at a profit a long time ago
469https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=11172500        2018-05-10 09:34:32     Patryn  Unless you meant my hedges? Those are still open
470https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=11226500        2018-05-11 03:46:15     Patryn  Finally
471https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185000        2018-05-25 13:47:17     Patryn  lol, hedge soon to be profitable at this rate.
472https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185000        2018-05-25 13:47:47     Patryn  rfcdejong: Pretty sure a 1.5% loss doesn&#39;t count as REKT
473https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185000        2018-05-25 13:49:07     Patryn  rfcdejong: Old hedge. My trade is long on perpet
474https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185000        2018-05-25 13:50:23     Patryn  rfcdejong: No funding in futures.
475https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185000        2018-05-25 13:51:10     Patryn  rfcdejong: I had it in perpet during much of last year and earned very well with funding rates. Then Q1 this year happened and funding rates were slaughtering my position, moved to futures.
476https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 13:54:10     Patryn  rfcdejong: Lost over a million dollars before I finally bit the bullet and moved it to futures. Those rates were slaughter.
477https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 13:54:43     Patryn  Something like 10% in a little over a month
478https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 13:58:08     Patryn  JCrypto: My hedge is 10x the size of my trade, and on different order books. Otherwise yes, i could just reduce/refill/increase it for trades.
479https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 13:59:14     Patryn  Moneyboy: Yeah, the charts since Consensus support this. Clearly all that buying pressure is why we&#39;re down over 10%
480https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 13:59:57     Patryn  LukeE: No, it would crash.
481https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12185500        2018-05-25 14:02:05     Patryn  LukeE: The space is young, any criminally linked news about it leads to prices dropping. There has been a pump nearly every time a large chunk of USDT is printed. Many would assume that current price levels are artificial due to the fraudulent USDT, and short. Prices would plummet, the same as they do every time a major exchange is hacked or comes under fire.
482https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12186000        2018-05-25 14:02:57     Patryn  USDT is the fiat backbone of numerous exchanges, including Binance. It would be largely problematic.
483https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12187500        2018-05-25 14:42:47     Patryn  long
484https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12311500        2018-05-27 16:26:12     Patryn  shhe&#39;s profitable!
485https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12311500        2018-05-27 16:27:10     Patryn  Sosft: lol
486https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12311500        2018-05-27 16:28:29     Patryn  necro: hah, nothing. It&#39;s part of my hedge. Has been open forever. My naked trade is long.
487https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12314000        2018-05-27 17:27:17     Patryn  blue54: The &#34;risk&#34; is defined as likelihood to be liquidated during a chop. Not sure why you would like that.
488https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12420000        2018-05-29 09:07:24     Patryn  Site broken again. Had 35xbt available for withdrawal. Removed 50xbt from margin from one of my positions. Still 35xbt available. Refresh doesn&#39;t help, can&#39;t withdraw more than 35
489https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=12469500        2018-05-30 02:40:34     Patryn  Holz: lol
490https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13159500        2018-06-10 01:42:31     Patryn  Bear father is really Mr T
491https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13160500        2018-06-10 01:55:32     Patryn  sylas: Cool, so you made a prediction but didn&#39;t believe it enough to place a trade. We should remember this why?
492https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13160500        2018-06-10 01:57:18     Patryn  It can always go either way...
493https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:04:14     Patryn  Petrucci: A lot of traders will also short the continuing downtrend. Whales and miners shorting their holdings, etc. I don&#39;t think &#34;weak hands&#34; have much impact on the market at this point.
494https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:05:30     Patryn  Banks provide lending and insurance/storage of currency. Bitcoin isn&#39;t a competitor.
495https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:06:05     Patryn  The average person loses their FB password regularly and is in debt. &#34;be your own bank&#34; isn&#39;t for the masses.
496https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:07:41     Patryn  fishy: I don&#39;t see any correlation between these statements.
497https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:08:04     Patryn  Computers and the internet were never meant to replace established financial institutions which the masses are dependent on.
498https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161000        2018-06-10 02:09:07     Patryn  Petrucci: Gotta 100x (our FDs) for those tendies. Do you want to retire on a yacht, or in a jetta? :P
499https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:10:18     Patryn  Petrucci: If everyone goes long with high margin, that would speed up a bullrun...
500https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:10:51     Patryn  We had futures markets (mex, okex) during the last bullrun. The CME and CBOE bitcoin markets have nil volume, they don&#39;t significantly impact the price.
501https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:11:11     Patryn  Petrucci: They sell into newer longs.
502https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:11:31     Patryn  Not everyone will decide to go long and place the trades at the same time.
503https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:12:22     Patryn  You get arbitrage, staggered positions based on conviction, contrarian traders being liquidated, etc. These bullruns are never one giant green candle, this is why we have breaks.
504https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:14:42     Patryn  marcion: The survival of bitcoin is not dependant on the price being that current levels
505https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:14:51     Patryn  *above current levels
506https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:19:30     Patryn  Petrucci: Perpetual has funding rates and no expiration. That&#39;s pretty much the difference.
507https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:19:38     Patryn  Depends on your goal.
508https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:20:11     Patryn  Petrucci: Depends on how the market behaves, the fees are based on distance of perpet price from index.
509https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13161500        2018-06-10 02:20:42     Patryn  Changes every 8 hours. No one good answer. It will be profitable to have a long position in a couple o fhours due to funding rates. It could become the opposite tomorrow.
510https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:21:39     Patryn  Petrucci: If you&#39;re planning to short, and funding rates stay similar, then futures is a better place to open your position.
511https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:21:46     Patryn  *at the moment.
512https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:23:39     Patryn  Silos: It changes. Not always. Right now, shorts will be paying longs.
513https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:24:45     Patryn  Starting a long position in perpet in a sec.
514https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:26:52     Patryn  mcfly99: Yep, also shorted the dump from 20k to 18k etc.
515https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:29:35     Patryn  Petrucci: I&#39;ve been trading btc since the Gox days. Ups and downs.
516https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13162000        2018-06-10 02:33:08     Patryn  Petrucci: Yeah, those people are usually the loudest.
517https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13179000        2018-06-10 08:22:49     Patryn  last chance to sohrt bitcoin over 7200
518https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13179000        2018-06-10 08:26:05     Patryn  tldr: It might go up , or it might go down
519https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13179500        2018-06-10 08:27:49     Patryn  leftbrainmt: That was a short. Which is now pretty profitable.
520https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13179500        2018-06-10 08:27:59     Patryn  madhatter: A few hours ago.
521https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13180000        2018-06-10 08:39:38     Patryn  &#34;experts&#34;
522https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13235000        2018-06-11 00:38:48     Patryn  fidelio: If we keep dumping like this...
523https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13235500        2018-06-11 00:48:58     Patryn  fidelio: usually keep it around 250-300
524https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13261500        2018-06-11 09:52:33     Patryn  Ernossdaboss: dropped 67% this year. Still trending down. Why would you not?
525https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13261500        2018-06-11 09:52:58     Patryn  Ernossdaboss: *could*
526https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13261500        2018-06-11 09:53:18     Patryn  Ernossdaboss: buying the top?
527https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13262000        2018-06-11 09:56:13     Patryn  Ernossdaboss: or late following the trend, not risking lack of bounce
528https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13312500        2018-06-12 08:24:44     Patryn  gogo
529https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13927500        2018-06-22 14:33:37     Patryn  TheOtherBoot: have been reducing.
530https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13927500        2018-06-22 14:34:05     Patryn  WhereistheLight: I don&#39;t think you understand what rekt means. :P
531https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13927500        2018-06-22 14:37:45     Patryn  God&#39;sPlan: hodling it for a long time
532https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13928000        2018-06-22 14:38:51     Patryn  Is this the price is right? Great way to deal with price discovery lol
533https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=13928000        2018-06-22 14:43:00     Patryn  God&#39;sPlan: 5x
534https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14032500        2018-06-24 06:04:28     Patryn  gogo
535https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:06:35     Patryn  futs settlement should be interesting.
536https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:07:35     Patryn  raggragg: No fees.
537https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:08:00     Patryn  freakybtc2: Three hours. Settlement lol
538https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:08:47     Patryn  Now to figure out how to move this over to September futs without losing much or being too greedy.
539https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:09:55     Patryn  778899: Don&#39;t have a guesstimate for the bottom. I still see it trending down.
540https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:10:16     Patryn  Lith1.: The left side of your screen. Contract details.
541https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:10:56     Patryn  778899: Yep, will be moving tihs over to september futs soon
542https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:11:18     Patryn  Hoping for a bounce with volume during which to do this. Otherwise looking at a 0.5-1% loss... which is substantial.
543https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:11:33     Patryn  Might have some settlement shenanigans.
544https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:12:08     Patryn  tofurocks: I don&#39;t trade because I need money. I enjoy it.
545https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:12:39     Patryn  Monkeyboy: LOL!
546https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:14:05     Patryn  raggragg: LOL. I&#39;m a poker player, yes. :) It&#39;s more about competition and winning.
547https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:14:30     Patryn  manut: I&#39;ve been shorting since 14k. I had to re-open this position when the last quarterly expired, which is why it shows a lower average.
548https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:15:10     Patryn  Champion Trader: Institutional money to pump the market seems like the dragons during the first 5435453 episodes of Game of Thrones. &#34;They&#39;re coming guys, we promise!&#34;
549https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:17:11     Patryn  russianbot: Dude gotta be careful. They&#39;ve been holding those bags all year, getting pretty jacked.
550https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:17:48     Patryn  hm2: Most alts on bitmex trade in relation to bitcoin, not usd. I&#39;m long the ETHBTC pair.
551https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:19:13     Patryn  hm2: I was long last year. I&#39;ve been short during most of this year. Not trying to catch a falling knife, no hopium.
552https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336000        2018-06-29 09:19:29     Patryn  Was shorting from 2013-2016 heh. Lost $2mm there.
553https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:20:29     Patryn  CryptoFuture1: I agree, we should see a small spike. Shorts closing and so forth. I&#39;ve got a small autistic XBTUSD long for it.
554https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:21:34     Patryn  778899: Same. Didn&#39;t troll much there.
555https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:22:10     Patryn  hm2: 5-10x.
556https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:25:47     Patryn  kiddcrs: During two of my last posted positions, ibankbtc basically disagreed with my long due to technical indicators. We then promptly crashed. It&#39;s not always nonsense .
557https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:26:44     Patryn  kiddcrs: About as technically accurate as your 80% number :P
558https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:27:58     Patryn  elfamosoinvestor: Something like that. I plan on trying to hold my short by moving it to september futs. I expect a short term bounce. Shorts closing and so forth.
559https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:28:23     Patryn  I want a $8MM short on futs. Right now have 7.23, split between the quarters.
560https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:28:51     Patryn  Might stack the sept order book with a ton of six figure orders hah.
561https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14336500        2018-06-29 09:30:26     Patryn  778899: bfx USD funding rates are at 35. Seems like its being lent.
562https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:02:09     Patryn  CryptoFuture1: This year has been fear, and the price has dropped 70%. I hope you aren&#39;t taking your own advice.
563https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:02:30     Patryn  Going against the trend is a high risk bet which hasn&#39;t been paying off in this market.
564https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:03:05     Patryn  CryptoFuture1: My trades are futs
565https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:04:06     Patryn  Champion Trader: too much margin even with it maxed out at this rate. started at 5x
566https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:04:20     Patryn  CryptoFuture1: I&#39;ll be moving it to september futs. Not closing most of it.
567https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:04:28     Patryn  so far
568https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:05:41     Patryn  Bottmlesss: Expecting some settlement shenanigans. Will try to move it over to sept at that point.
569https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:05:53     Patryn  Rocky1: No, not from funding. Futures doesn&#39;t have funding. I closed some of the position, it was larger.
570https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:06:47     Patryn  Rocky1: Would have been destroyed with funding fees. Has favored longs, by a large margin, tihs year.
571https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:07:33     Patryn  Bottmlesss: June futures expires in around two hours. I can manually close bits and reopen in sept, or wait for settlement. I&#39;ll likely end up with a combination of the two, there isn&#39;t enough volume there right now for me to move this size of a position.
572https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:07:48     Patryn  Admiral Akbar: I&#39;m short. I would have paid a couple mil in funding rebates in perpetual this year.
573https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:08:44     Patryn  Admiral Akbar: Staying short until I see a confirmed change in this trend.
574https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:09:41     Patryn  Bottmlesss: Correct. I&#39;ve actually been shorting since around 14k, but had to reopen when march contracts expired. So now my entry shows as $7459
575https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:10:43     Patryn  florentg: I&#39;ve got 265 coins margin right now. So... 4x.
576https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338000        2018-06-29 10:10:55     Patryn  Can&#39;t reduce it.
577https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:11:54     Patryn  Bottmlesss: I&#39;ll lose less money moving to september futs if we have a mini pump. Discount will reduce. Hoping for it.
578https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:13:05     Patryn  Futures premium/discount is based on market sentiment. Price is higher during bull movement, lower after a dump.
579https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:13:38     Patryn  barbearian: If you see like 40 $200k orders on sept futs in a couple of hours, you know I paid for settlement lol
580https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:14:36     Patryn  supie: Bitmex doesn&#39;t accept or pay out in cash, only coin. You&#39;ll receive the number of coin matching your current unrealized pnl, minus the fee.
581https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:14:56     Patryn  Sorry, your margin. Not unrealized pnl
582https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:15:17     Patryn  Barnicles: Two hours.
583https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:15:51     Patryn  supie: Yes, bitcoin. You&#39;re holding an etherium contract against bitcoin.
584https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:16:33     Patryn  Your margin is always displayed in bitcoin, for every position. That&#39;s what you&#39;ll receive at settlement, minus fees.
585https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:17:44     Patryn  Admiral Akbar: Lack of liquidity. The market can move against me with a limit order which never gets filled, or i&#39;ll move the market with a market order.
586https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14338500        2018-06-29 10:18:04     Patryn  kds600: I&#39;ve founded a few companies including a crypto exchange. Sold them.
587https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14339000        2018-06-29 10:19:42     Patryn  keikei: No. Click the sell button after reading the FAQ.
588https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14339000        2018-06-29 10:20:22     Patryn  Gerazer: It is not forbidden to trade deritivates in any country which allows investing and gambling. Not sure what you&#39;re talking about.
589https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14339000        2018-06-29 10:22:00     Patryn  mrgreed: No. Usually get a better entry
590https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14347000        2018-06-29 12:49:58     Patryn  At what price was futures settlement? Despite closing a huge position, I can&#39;t seem to find that info anywhere in history.
591https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14347000        2018-06-29 12:50:32     Patryn  Thank you John
592https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:29:31     Patryn  sebjunk: The trend is bearish. A few hours of spikes which hasan&#39;t even returned us to last week&#39;s prices isn&#39;t a reversal.
593https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:30:53     Patryn  MONERO_XMR: Have been shorting since $14k. I hear this every week or so in the trollbox. Hurts my feelings, will cry myself to sleep on the pile of money i&#39;ve heard from these trades ;p
594https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:31:01     Patryn  *made*
595https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:31:45     Patryn  tennisbtc: Will stop when the trend changes.
596https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:32:20     Patryn  MONERO_XMR: Doesn&#39;t have to work indefnitely... only until I close my trades ;p
597https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:32:36     Patryn  StringTheory: You must be trading on 5m charts. Zoom out, we are nowhere near a bull reversal.
598https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14383000        2018-06-30 02:33:03     Patryn  We were at these prices a week ago.
599https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14384000        2018-06-30 02:50:02     Patryn  Esko: Half a percent isn&#39;t rekt ;p
600https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14384000        2018-06-30 02:50:23     Patryn  mmhmm
601https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14384000        2018-06-30 02:51:04     Patryn  bshea69: Seems like it on sept futs, books hella thin. Orders filling slow
602https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14384000        2018-06-30 02:51:57     Patryn  bshea69: Most of those six figure orders are mine, trying to increase this to 7.5mm
603https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14482500        2018-07-02 04:06:50     Patryn  MGL24: haven&#39;t had a long position in over a week.
604https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14482500        2018-07-02 04:08:01     Patryn  Someone fill my December futs short orders. Lol. The 250k ones
605https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14482500        2018-07-02 04:09:24     Patryn  theheirophant: pretty much at breakeven. Closed xbtm18 with 300 coins pnl, that was hot
606https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14482500        2018-07-02 04:10:32     Patryn  MGL24: where are you seeing 1000x leverage with options? Lol, FD calls?
607https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:12:10     Patryn  MGL24: that doesn&#39;t sound reasonable for traditional equities. Few pennies in the wrong direction liquidates?
608https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:13:03     Patryn  Dying Whale: yep, and if one dumps as per the year long trend, I can buy another Lambo. Gotta take some risk for those sweet tendons
609https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:13:07     Patryn  Tendies
610https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:13:18     Patryn  Haolin: funding fees have not favored shorts this year
611https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:15:05     Patryn  Haolin: futs don&#39;t have to deal with funding fees, and the discount is currently negligible. If the market becomes bullish, I could miss out on some funding rebates, but this is the safe bet. I lost 7 figures with a large short on perpets earlier this year, not making that mistake again.
612https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:16:22     Patryn  Dying Whale: sounds like you&#39;re making a few assumptions regarding my leverage I&#39;m using 5x.
613https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:16:37     Patryn  Haolin: roll over into the next quarter
614https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:17:52     Patryn  Haolin: if I leave this open until expiry, it will settle at index price and I&#39;ll eat a small settlement fee.
615https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:18:39     Patryn  That happened when June futs expired. Not enough liquidity for me to 4oll it over.
616https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:18:58     Patryn  Haolin: no, it closes as index price automatically and I can re open on December futs
617https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:20:21     Patryn  Haolin: yep
618https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14483000        2018-07-02 04:22:35     Patryn  Dying Whale: I&#39;ve been trading futures, options, listing penny stocks and so forth for a few years. Emotions are in check. I&#39;m. Prepared to eat a loss of the marker moves against me.
619https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:16:59     Patryn  TT
620https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:18:07     Patryn  Haolin: I&#39;m still comfortably holding this position.
621https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:19:00     Patryn  Stevie Cohen: A liquidation of this position at $7700 still wouldn&#39;t leave me penniless. No worries.
622https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:19:52     Patryn  CryptoRiddler: 7.75m sept futs, 1m perpet, 250k dec futs
623https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:20:08     Patryn  6350-6400
624https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:20:16     Patryn  Down 54xbt
625https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:20:56     Patryn  7700
626https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14537500        2018-07-03 03:21:21     Patryn  lol
627https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14538000        2018-07-03 03:22:39     Patryn  Haolin: Not overly worried about a random 5% spike.
628https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14726000        2018-07-06 07:26:04     Patryn  gogo
629https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14726000        2018-07-06 07:27:14     Patryn  Esko: Down half of a percent, not concerned.
630https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14726000        2018-07-06 07:27:50     Patryn  I love BitMEX: Anyone more than 25x is gambling. Likely one reason for all of the barting, and liquidations after 3% moves.
631https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14726000        2018-07-06 07:29:00     Patryn  This one doing well so far.
632https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14984000        2018-07-11 06:46:47     Patryn  Maumau811: you wouldn&#39;t have been when we hit 6800 lol. This 5x position has been open since settlement.
633https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=14984000        2018-07-11 06:47:35     Patryn  Maumau811: porn.
634https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15041500        2018-07-12 08:02:11     Patryn  monsterer: opened on the day following settlement during a pump so was able to sell into volume
635https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:45:29     Patryn  Slowest crash ever.
636https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:45:56     Patryn  upnl down over 25 coins today
637https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:46:26     Patryn  GreatGazoo: Long? Trying to get me liquidated? :(
638https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:48:36     Patryn  jmtcoiner: Light a candle.
639https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:49:33     Patryn  That&#39;s my most underweight position lol
640https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15102000        2018-07-13 08:49:38     Patryn  *underwater
641https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15276500        2018-07-16 11:45:24     Patryn  TT
642https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15276500        2018-07-16 11:46:25     Patryn  Janet Yellen: yep. Gotta walk boelegged. Like Vince mcmahon
643https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15277000        2018-07-16 11:46:44     Patryn  Capricoinn: hopefully. Down
644https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15277000        2018-07-16 11:47:02     Patryn  papabizz: no.
645https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15277000        2018-07-16 11:48:20     Patryn  Capricoinn: 5x. Hodling this position.
646https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:08:17     Patryn  TT
647https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:08:47     Patryn  I love BitMEX: $6380, not quite the bottom
648https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:09:07     Patryn  tofurocks: 7600
649https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:10:14     Patryn  tofurocks: I&#39;m a semi-retired PM. I trade for entertainment.
650https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:10:35     Patryn  tofurocks: portfolio manager. &#34;institutional investor&#34;
651https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15341500        2018-07-17 10:11:24     Patryn  tofurocks: I believe it has its uses with regard to resistance/support identification and so forth. I don&#39;t believe it to be a crystal ball which will accurately predict future price movements in a mature market.
652https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15374500        2018-07-17 18:47:01     Patryn  TT
653https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15374500        2018-07-17 18:48:14     Patryn  cks: yep
654https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565000        2018-07-20 08:59:26     Patryn  TT
655https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565000        2018-07-20 09:00:06     Patryn  Ewolman: hah getting there
656https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565000        2018-07-20 09:01:06     Patryn  This one&#39;s doing well hah
657https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:02:22     Patryn  Palpatine: Yep
658https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:02:49     Patryn  Palpatine: I prefer having my hedge in the red. Reduced chance of forced position reduction.
659https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:02:57     Patryn  Ewolman: $8309
660https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:03:45     Patryn  KillabeeBTC: Opened bits and pieces during rallys. Took awhile, yes lol. That&#39;s why forced position reduction is an issue. I&#39;ve lost quite a bit while I slept due to it.
661https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:05:42     Patryn  KillabeeBTC: I lost $1M in funding fees during Q1 this year by hedging in swaps. Definitely not better during a bear market.
662https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:06:34     Patryn  Palpatine: Insurance fund used for forced liquidations. Forced position reduction is based on having a large profitable position.
663https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:08:28     Patryn  Palpatine: In theory, but i&#39;m sure that the order books currently have enough liquidity to cover that position.
664https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:09:03     Patryn  If you currently had a say $5MM position in dec futures which was profitable, say a long from $6000, you would be at risk of auto deleverage.
665https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:10:30     Patryn  jop988888: &#34;Deleveraging priority is calculated by profit and leverage. More profitable and higher leveraged traders are deleveraged first.&#34;
666https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15565500        2018-07-20 09:12:12     Patryn  jop988888: BitMex will ADL you based on the priority order mentioned in my last message. When the order books lack liquidity to fill a liquidation within a reasonable period of time.
667https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15566000        2018-07-20 09:15:25     Patryn  Palpatine: Yes, you lose some profits. When its a hedge, you can take a real loss.
668https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15897500        2018-07-24 23:45:20     Patryn  anonymous1: big position, well underwater.
669https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15897500        2018-07-24 23:45:54     Patryn  papabizz: Yep
670https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15897500        2018-07-24 23:46:39     Patryn  It&#39;s a hedge, no real loss. Just a staggering upnl
671https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15897500        2018-07-24 23:47:24     Patryn  position ethu18
672https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=15897500        2018-07-24 23:47:26     Patryn  TT
673https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16330500        2018-07-31 02:23:49     Patryn  Looks like that did well.
674https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16330500        2018-07-31 02:24:22     Patryn  hah
675https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16330500        2018-07-31 02:25:08     Patryn  nor: run an ICO
676https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16330500        2018-07-31 02:25:33     Patryn  Capricoinn: Hedged. Just looks depressing.
677https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:26:29     Patryn  Capricoinn: For this type of position, yeah.
678https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:27:39     Patryn  cyrptomoney: hedge from settlement.
679https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:28:27     Patryn  AA114: Would love to trade, hah.
680https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:29:10     Patryn  btcline: Can&#39;t be sure of much with this market. It&#39;s a hedge, so i&#39;m not concerned much. My only open trade is a $500k long.
681https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:29:56     Patryn  nel22: Yep, different position. This is also a hedge.
682https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:30:19     Patryn  Haolin: Soon
683https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:30:34     Patryn  Liquidation prices well over $9200. Should be fine.
684https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16331000        2018-07-31 02:31:05     Patryn  EternityTrader: Guess i&#39;ll have to add more margin.
685https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16975000        2018-08-08 17:12:58     Patryn  gogo
686https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16975500        2018-08-08 17:13:56     Patryn  nor2: Only one month.
687https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=16979000        2018-08-08 18:03:40     Patryn  AUDto0: I&#39;m right there with you
688https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008000        2018-08-09 04:49:47     Patryn  Capricoinn: Expecting another leg down
689https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008000        2018-08-09 04:49:59     Patryn  Still holding this as well
690https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008000        2018-08-09 04:50:52     Patryn  Capricoinn: I don&#39;t see any reason to be bullish right now. Bear trend seems intact.
691https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008000        2018-08-09 04:52:13     Patryn  cryptologist: 5x on futures, it can withstand a 20% squeeze.
692https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008000        2018-08-09 04:53:19     Patryn  Haolin: Large trades don&#39;t mean that you&#39;re a great trader. It does however signifiy that you haven&#39;t lost your shirt by gambling yet.
693https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:54:14     Patryn  ABitWhale: Sounds like your 4k could be better used elsewhere. Perhaps a job recruiter and nice suit?
694https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:55:44     Patryn  Haolin: Yep, and a lot to win. And large traders who consistently lose generally stop being large traders. I believe that proper risk mitigation is key, never trade with a large portion of your stack. trade size should be dependant on stack size. A larger trade for a fresh trader following proper risk mitigation merely means that he has a larger stack to play with.
695https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:56:53     Patryn  The market seems to expect the price to continue to drop, based on funding cost and futures price.
696https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:57:32     Patryn  lol. It&#39;s funny how so many people get excited &#34;LONG SQUEEZE! MOON!&#34; when the price spikes $4
697https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:58:55     Patryn  d4rks1d3: Price just spiked 0.0006% against me. So squeezed!
698https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 04:59:54     Patryn  These funding rates are pretty terrible for me. I&#39;ve lost 0.2xbt since yesterday, looking at the next cost will be 0.18xbt
699https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 05:00:46     Patryn  SatoshiCrashmoto: Yep, and great entry
700https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 05:01:19     Patryn  I&#39;ve been seeing this ETF pump annually for like 4 years. Since the Winklevoss first started their attempts.
701https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 05:02:21     Patryn  flndwndrnk: How much are these &#34;dumbasses&#34; shorting up tihs year?
702https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 05:03:14     Patryn  flndwndrnk: The price dropped over 20% during the last week. How is the bear trend over?
703https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17008500        2018-08-09 05:03:25     Patryn  we&#39;re back to near lows for the year. Again.
704https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009000        2018-08-09 05:04:10     Patryn  flndwndrnk: mmhmm.
705https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009000        2018-08-09 05:04:39     Patryn  flndwndrnk: See you and your broke &#34;smart money&#34; friends at $6k.
706https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009000        2018-08-09 05:05:27     Patryn  flndwndrnk: Likewise ;)
707https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009000        2018-08-09 05:10:29     Patryn  zetLi: That&#39;s the correct question.
708https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009000        2018-08-09 05:11:31     Patryn  stinkdink: These small retraces are indicative of shorts closing more than buying pressure IMO
709https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:12:24     Patryn  stinkdink: Yep, overwhelming selling pressure.
710https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:13:34     Patryn  To be fair, anyone who went long when I went to bed 10 hours ago did pretty well. Not many other timeframes I can cherrypick recently lol
711https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:17:24     Patryn  I&#39;m going to add another mil to my short. Lets get another one of those crazy short squeeze 0.5% bumps
712https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:18:35     Patryn  123sd: I have never been liquidated, you might be talking to the wrong guy :P
713https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:18:53     Patryn  My stops hit when I went long twice during the last two weeks. My shorts have more than made up for them.
714https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:19:55     Patryn  123sd: Can I borrow your crystal ball? Everyone else who has been saying that this year seems to get REKT and leave bitmex. Yours must be of vastly superior quality, assuming not made in china.
715https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17009500        2018-08-09 05:20:50     Patryn  123sd: Ah, so you&#39;re just guessing with factual confidence. Smart man.
716https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:22:28     Patryn  cryptodealer.io: DCA those shorts, hah
717https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:22:41     Patryn  Dollar Cost Average
718https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:24:58     Patryn  Miller23: Pretty much all year outside of short term spikes
719https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:25:08     Patryn  /orders```:bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 1000000 @ 6388 BTU18: Sell 500000 @ 7337 BTUSD: Sell 550000 @ 8568
720https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:25:09     Patryn  lets go
721https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:27:18     Patryn  Marcion.: For Connor?
722https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:28:00     Patryn  Connor4real. Love the donkey roll. Such an entertaining movie.
723https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:31:20     Patryn  gbus: SEC&#39;s was created fo rthis reason
724https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:31:51     Patryn  If the BCSC and OSC would do their jobs properly, people wouldnt be getting scammed monthly on the CSE/TSXV markets.
725https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:32:42     Patryn  trump sucks: Protected private wealth is the point of owning and using Bitcoin. trading it on unregulated centralized exchanges is another story.
726https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010000        2018-08-09 05:32:55     Patryn  We want the exchanges regulated, not the tech.
727https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:33:29     Patryn  trump sucks: Growth outpacing inflation.
728https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:34:20     Patryn  hb_trader: Satoshi was likeable and intelligent. CWS and Trump are neither.
729https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:35:07     Patryn  But if we&#39;re going for amusing conspiracy theories. I say 2pac never died. He went dark to create bitcoin.
730https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:35:37     Patryn  I&#39;m more interested in Spanktoshi Nakabooty.
731https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:35:43     Patryn  long SPANK
732https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:36:19     Patryn  Negito: LOL that quote was hilarious, but gotta wonder at the logistics.
733https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:37:43     Patryn  Conspiracy theory 2: Satoshi gave up his private key sduring his meeting with the feds. We are currently supporting the CIA&#39;s black market ponzi scheme.
734https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:38:08     Patryn  trtz: Yes, but maintenance margin should also be considered. You aren&#39;t making a 100btc trade with 1btc margin
735https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:40:33     Patryn  trump sucks: 2.7% treasury yields. Borrowing costs are extremely low, deep markets not incredibly concerned by the deficit.
736https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:40:50     Patryn  Deficit has grown substantially while borrowing costs have tanked.
737https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:41:31     Patryn  In 1980, the treasury yield was over 10%. It&#39;s currently under 3%. Debt is a useful tool.
738https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:41:38     Patryn  ...for those woh are responsible.
739https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17010500        2018-08-09 05:42:06     Patryn  trump sucks: Yep, while borrowing costs have reduced by 70%
740https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:45:41     Patryn  scriewy: The problem is that the top charts also include hedges.
741https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:46:18     Patryn  scriewy: Bitmex can&#39;t differentiate
742https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:46:47     Patryn  If your cold storage was worth $20mm and you shorted at $14k, then held that riskless short until $6k, you make the hall of fame.
743https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:48:55     Patryn  Marcion.: Can&#39;t go long at zero. A 100% gain still puts you at zero.
744https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:49:55     Patryn  Sherm: i went with the latter
745https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:50:31     Patryn  The Emerging Bull: lol &#34;it&#39;s all over the fake news&#34;
746https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:50:40     Patryn  reading the onion?
747https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:51:00     Patryn  GreatGatsby: No idea, crystal ball needs cleaning.
748https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:51:15     Patryn  illiquid manipulated market, any news could start a short term rally
749https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:52:33     Patryn  Marcion.: News is supposed to be a cayalist for a pump. Supports nonsense manipulation, causing others to see validty and follow.
750https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011000        2018-08-09 05:53:39     Patryn  Marcion.: bakkt/starbucks/microsoft news was all the same and clearly stated that starbucks will not be accepting bitcoin.
751https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:54:47     Patryn  Marcion.: I&#39;m clarifying and responding. You haven&#39;t clearly mentioned any positive news which could not be used as a catalyst for a manipulated pump
752https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:55:08     Patryn  This is also how penny stocks work. Random news, put out press release, promoters pump the price, plebs buy into their sales.
753https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:56:21     Patryn  Marcion.: I clarified that the news you mentioned was not good news.
754https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:56:59     Patryn  Marcion.: Starbucks/bakkt is not good for bitcoin. Starbucks is offering another way for us to sell our coins for fiat, and will not be accepting bitcoin for their coffee. Making it easier to sell should not result in price increase.
755https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:57:37     Patryn  News that a giant retailer will help you to dump your bags and doesn&#39;t want to hold your coins or accept it for their services is not good for bitcoin. Not the price anyway.
756https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 05:59:22     Patryn  Marcion.: Bringing up NYSE and physicall backed futures to discredit my statements about starbucks/bakkt is bizarro world ;p
757https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 06:00:44     Patryn  Marcion.: Yep, and the positive news could have easily resulted in a slowdown of our bear trend. Slowing down the flow. One piece of positive news is not enough to overturn everything else.
758https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 06:03:23     Patryn  Marcion.: Adding an insult to every comment does not improve your argument. I argued with your statement regarding starbucks/bakkt, your replies seem to revolve around insults and comments regarding NYSE physically backed futures. I don&#39;t see you defending your original statement regarding starbucks/bakkt.
759https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 06:03:43     Patryn  At no point did I say that every piece of positive news will result in a significant pump.
760https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17011500        2018-08-09 06:04:55     Patryn  Marcion.: &#34;I made an incorrect statement. Instead of backing it, I will bring up random statements which may support my original theory more accurately and lace it with insults in order to feel superior. &#34;
761https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17012000        2018-08-09 06:06:15     Patryn  GenghisChan: https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43pq8p/starbucks-will-not-be-accepting-bitcoin?utm_source=reddit.com
762https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17012000        2018-08-09 06:06:26     Patryn  Ugly link
763https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17012000        2018-08-09 06:07:02     Patryn  Marcion.: You seem to have severe reading comprehension issues, so i&#39;m going to stop wasting my time here. As for my trade not working out...
764https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:04:44     Patryn  REKT Bot says we should stop trading.
765https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:04:45     Patryn  :(
766https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:05:13     Patryn  gk: Futures at $6265.
767https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:05:41     Patryn  Sentiment is obviously still very bearish
768https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:06:45     Patryn  whenmoon888: How are those funding fees treating you
769https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:07:27     Patryn  whenmoon888: I asked about funding fees ;p
770https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:08:04     Patryn  whenmoon888: I lost over a mil in funding fees before moving my hedge over to futures this year. Has been brutal, can&#39;t imagine holding it all year.
771https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:08:39     Patryn  whenmoon888: ...you&#39;ve been shorting all year and don&#39;t understand how this platform works?
772https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:09:09     Patryn  whenmoon888: You see that number on the left side of your screen which says &#34;funding fees&#34; and the funds which have been deducted from your account every 8 hours all year? Those are your fees ;p
773https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:09:42     Patryn  whenmoon888: Your profit may be closer to 300k without. May be worth considering moving the short to futures.
774https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:10:13     Patryn  whenmoon888: This is a derivatives platform. Swaps don&#39;t settle, they aren&#39;t futures.
775https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:10:34     Patryn  whenmoon888: Perpetual.
776https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:10:58     Patryn  whenmoon888: The other two which expire in the future.
777https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:11:20     Patryn  Can we get a mod to ban all of this graphic spam? Jesus
778https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:11:28     Patryn  whenmoon888: Correct, no funding fees at all.
779https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:11:46     Patryn  whenmoon888: Yep. I&#39;ve been reopening after settlement for over a year.
780https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:12:26     Patryn  whenmoon888: Five minutes of clicking isn&#39;t much work for me to save over a mil in fees.
781https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:12:42     Patryn  whenmoon888: Only needs to be done 3-4 days per year.
782https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:13:40     Patryn  whenmoon888: That&#39;s the correct term for this type of never ending derivative privately traded between parties .
783https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:14:39     Patryn  whenmoon888: a $10mm short right now will incur a loss of over a bitcoin every 8 hours. Adds up when this happens three times a day all year.
784https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:15:08     Patryn  whenmoon888: Happy to help
785https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:15:31     Patryn  whenmoon888: Whatever your position size, the funding cost is based on % so you&#39;ll have substantially more money by moving such a long term short over.
786https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019000        2018-08-09 09:15:49     Patryn  whenmoon888: Yeah, I re-open my futures shorts after every settlement. Usually 8-10mm in value.
787https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:16:36     Patryn  PinappleFarm: I believe it was around 200 bitcoins last quarter. Currently 30 coins for this quarter.
788https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:17:01     Patryn  Maumau811: Different trade. The $1mm is in swaps, didn&#39;t want to open with that 1% spread.
789https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:17:40     Patryn  SirGodrick: Hedge your bitcoins. Voila, store of value. hah
790https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:18:56     Patryn  SirGodrick: Depends on your point. If you want a stable and reliable store of value, it works pretty well. Can do the same with most stoks lol
791https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:20:03     Patryn  Maumau811: The price on futures is currently 1% below that of swaps. If i&#39;m shorting, i&#39;m taking a 1% loss straight off the bat.
792https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:20:38     Patryn  Assuming you hold until settlement and don&#39;t close while it&#39;s still 1% under.
793https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:21:56     Patryn  Maumau811: Not unless you expect the swap funding fees to exceed that 1% loss.
794https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:24:15     Patryn  Maumau811: Reallly depends on your expected duration of trade and price. If you believe that sentiment will be more bullish at the end of next month, you&#39;re better off shorting Sept, then moving it to Dec at settlement when the price is more advantageous. If you expect sentiment to remain bearish or become even more bearish, i&#39;d go with december now.
795https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:25:16     Patryn  I&#39;m currently increasing my short position. Fairly confident that the bear trend will continue.
796https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:26:07     Patryn  Metalivo: I keep hearing that while making money on these shorts by people who end up getting REKT and leaving bitmex with their high leveraged longs.
797https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:26:32     Patryn  arni: $7432.5
798https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:27:53     Patryn  We&#39;re back to the same price that we were at a month ago.
799https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:28:36     Patryn  $haft: 5x
800https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:29:48     Patryn  Massiveattack: Nope, just following the trend. My long term positions have been short during most of the year with an average price of 14k
801https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:30:20     Patryn  Massiveattack: Note that this trollbox said I was a retard for shorting during that entire time. My trading stack has doubled, they seem to be missing. Hmm.
802https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17019500        2018-08-09 09:31:57     Patryn  While i&#39;ve been mostly correct regarding the direction of bitcoin, it&#39;s worth noting that my ETH and XMR bags are giving me spinal compression issues. My crystal ball was made in china.
803https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:34:05     Patryn  sarena: Yeah, that&#39;s my concern with this short on swaps. Lost a couple grand since last night and doesn&#39;t seem to be improving.
804https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:34:15     Patryn  Looks like i&#39;ll be down another couple grand in two hours.
805https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:34:46     Patryn  sgt: Yep. shorted, went to bed. Woke up at around the same price minus 0.2xbt in funding fees.
806https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:35:04     Patryn  chayke: This year, long term, short.
807https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:35:48     Patryn  sgt: Was. We are expecting to see it drop lower, now that we&#39;re reaching the same &#34;literal bottom&#34; we saw last month.
808https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:36:44     Patryn  sgt: Despite the rally, we&#39;re right back down here a month later. This is not indicative of a permanent floor.
809https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:37:43     Patryn  sgt: BTC has no defined intrinsic value. Not sure why you feel that you know the real value despite no experts being able to pinpoint it.
810https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:37:54     Patryn  We&#39;re still in the price discovery phase.
811https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:39:29     Patryn  ..__..: My point is that nobody knows the instrinsic value of this new piece of tech. We originally said it was a currency, then realized it can&#39;t scale. Then we said its a store of value, but its about as volatile as the Venezuelan dollar. No use cases found by any of the companies investing in it. We are still in the early price discovery phase, no experts or plebs know where this will end up. Could be $1000 or $50000.
812https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:41:24     Patryn  It&#39;s become a medium of transfer, and a speculative asset for trading.
813https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:42:16     Patryn  ..__..: Is it being used to pay your bill sand purchase stuff, or are companies simply buying your bitcoin, turning it into cash, and using/accepting that?
814https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:43:25     Patryn  ..__..: The volatility is also problematic with regard to paying your bills. Not the best currency when you don&#39;t know if the $5000 you invest today will pay your rent, buy you a car, or buy you a cheeseburger next month.
815https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:44:21     Patryn  ..__..: We use a proper store of value to purchase petrol. we don&#39;t consider petrol to be a store of value or currency.
816https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:44:44     Patryn  Maumau811: lol
817https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:45:44     Patryn  Fishermanaka: Wow, i&#39;d hate to be accountable for that bet. Not sure if i&#39;d want to be rich and dickless.
818https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:46:24     Patryn  CarlosM: Oil prices are determined by OPEC. Local petrol/gas prices don&#39;t have a direct correlation. Gas prices have substantially increased in much of North America while the price of oil has declined substantially.
819https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020000        2018-08-09 09:47:19     Patryn  ..__..: The powers that be are accoutnable for that store of value, and it has become the world reserve currency over gold due to its stability.
820https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:49:46     Patryn  ..__..: There are numerous steps and movements ,employees and licenses and fees to cover while that grain makes it way from the farmer to the end consumer. Unless you&#39;re referring to a situation where consumers are able to purchase directly from said farmer, vs being forced to accept the higher retail fees.
821https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:50:18     Patryn  farm to table etc.
822https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:51:31     Patryn  ..__..: Monopolies are broken up all the time. It is also unfair for an entity which spent 100 years risking and investing, establishing partnerships to become dominant, to have to reduce operations and profit margins so that some new kid can compete with him on the same level.
823https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:53:05     Patryn  CarlosM: Money is the store of value, medium of exchange for purchasing said goods and services.
824https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:54:08     Patryn  ..__..: New kids get their fair shot at dominance on a regular basis when they create a superior product. FANG companies are market leaders, younger than most of us here, and have overtaken such giants as IBM.
825https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:55:23     Patryn  CarlosM: I&#39;d say that the waste in form of electricity to support the network is causing substantial harm to the environment, and most of what we do with this seems to be speculative investment.
826https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:55:24     Patryn  So far.
827https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:56:30     Patryn  ..__..: I don&#39;t run around killing people because there are murderers out there. The goal is not to be equal to those who are destroying our world and society.
828https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:56:40     Patryn  arni: never, hjopefully :)
829https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:57:38     Patryn  arni: Good thing bitcoin likes to swing wildly in both directions.
830https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:57:58     Patryn  If we hodl our positions, could both exit proftably. hah.
831https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 09:59:45     Patryn  arni: My Sept futures short is over a month old. Price spiked over 20%, I held. Now i&#39;m profitable. Never know ;p
832https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 10:01:10     Patryn  ..__..: I also criticize those actions. However, i don&#39;t believe that it alleviates the incredible waste of resources of our network.
833https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 10:01:29     Patryn  Pointing at someone else who is committnig worse crimes does not make ours any less severe, in my opinion.
834https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17020500        2018-08-09 10:03:34     Patryn  CarlosM: I&#39;m certainly not saying that this is a permanent problem with no future solution, merely criticizing the current state of things.
835https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17021000        2018-08-09 10:04:04     Patryn  cryptodinero: I&#39;m also independently independent. And financial :)
836https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17021000        2018-08-09 10:04:36     Patryn  CarlosM: I&#39;m fairly certain that we are burning substantially more resources to maintain the network today than we were a year ago...
837https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17021000        2018-08-09 10:05:35     Patryn  SirGodrick: We see Tesla the company in the news, see their cars driving around. Nicky T, on the other hand, is only heard of in historical references. In a world where most can&#39;t name the US Vice president, i&#39;m not surprised.
838https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17021000        2018-08-09 10:06:49     Patryn  SirGodrick: We also use cell phones. I have no idea who invented that technology...
839https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17021000        2018-08-09 10:07:32     Patryn  CarlosM: Commie! :P
840https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 03:57:33     Patryn  Closing this now. Wondering where those trading geniuses are who insisted I was going to lose on this one... two days ago
841https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 03:57:48     Patryn  AngeloWUZ: 7k
842https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 03:58:34     Patryn  zap: yep
843https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 03:59:50     Patryn  Canadaskiller: No, opened during the last few days,limit. I rarely market sell
844https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 03:59:54     Patryn  acridotheres: 10x
845https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17145500        2018-08-11 04:00:01     Patryn  zap: Nowish
846https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17146000        2018-08-11 04:01:17     Patryn  REKTBot says to stop trading folks. Close all positions.
847https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17146000        2018-08-11 04:07:57     Patryn  ooh, finally an eth/usd pairing here. Going long ;p
848https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17146500        2018-08-11 04:19:03     Patryn  EverythingIsChrome: If you&#39;re going to sit around waiting for someone to ask, you&#39;re going to be left sharing your opinions with yourself in the shower.
849https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17147500        2018-08-11 04:39:18     Patryn  why does it seem like i&#39;m th eonly one trading the USD/ETH pair? No movement in nearly an hour?
850https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17147500        2018-08-11 04:40:38     Patryn  ABitWhale: IF history is any indication, this is the point where plebs will mock you for shorting the temporary bottom. In a week, you&#39;ll be holding their bitcoins and they&#39;ll /ragequit complaining of market manipulation.
851https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17147500        2018-08-11 04:42:08     Patryn  bitcorntrader: Happy to see the pair up. Though my eth/btc trade has been getting slaughtered.
852https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17147500        2018-08-11 04:42:45     Patryn  Pretty terrible when you make a $2MM trade which becomes 5% profitable after a day, and your winnings don&#39;t make up for the losses from your ETH and XMR hodlings.
853https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17147500        2018-08-11 04:43:42     Patryn  ETH POS 5% gains for the next 30 years being priced in this year.
854https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17148000        2018-08-11 04:49:05     Patryn  Wiz0rd: Your $6050 long should hav efilled...
855https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17148000        2018-08-11 04:49:22     Patryn  Someone fill that 250k long
856https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=17965000        2018-08-22 21:06:49     Patryn  Still confident in this
857https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=18215500        2018-08-26 08:22:28     Patryn  supidupi: They wouldn&#39;t be very hidden if we could.
858https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=18374500        2018-08-28 13:21:51     Patryn  pu88: Holding out a bit longer
859https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=18673500        2018-09-01 15:32:07     Patryn  when lambo
860https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=18674000        2018-09-01 15:33:10     Patryn  Ssded: 6400
861https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19190500        2018-09-09 03:06:42     Patryn  jeckjeck: Did a long time ago. Unfortunately I don&#39;t live in the best place to drive one.
862https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:27:23     Patryn  FrenzyCrypto: 10x
863https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:27:45     Patryn  Have been waiting for todays dip for awhile
864https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:28:49     Patryn  FrenzyCrypto: Some. Will reduce some positions now, re-open during the next spike.
865https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:29:03     Patryn  TradingRobbo: From all trades so far this quarter: 65xbt
866https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:29:41     Patryn  TradingRobbo: I have large quarterly positions, have to renew those quarterly so started calculating within those timeframes.
867https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:30:06     Patryn  No idea about the next hour or two. Such short timeframes are a guessing games
868https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=19715500        2018-09-17 22:31:44     Patryn  nirland: Long term, yeah. We keep hammering against it, and there&#39;s plenty of negative market news coming. The listing of funds like Galaxy Digital have been a huge failure. As an institutional investor, I still feel that most aren&#39;t interested.
869https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:41:12     Patryn  gogo
870https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:42:22     Patryn  4x: No particular exit price. Will close when I see clear signs of a reversal.
871https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:42:59     Patryn  Have been holding onto similar positions all year. Avg price changes when I need to re-open after expiry. Has been working quite well so far.
872https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:43:19     Patryn  longshort: I lost over $1 MM early tihs year in swap funding fees.
873https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:43:59     Patryn  My petpet position is quite small now.
874https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:45:09     Patryn  Tsukiyomix100: Yep, all moved over to futures now. No more perpet ;p
875https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:45:52     Patryn  FakeMoney: No, i&#39;m up less than 400 coins so far this year. I&#39;m pretty far from the threshold.
876https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:46:07     Patryn  ghjkkk: lol
877https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:48:07     Patryn  FakeMoney: Need the price to drop another 9% or so with my current positions.
878https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:49:52     Patryn  marios istambul: Yep. Everyone stopped using pretty much every PC and mobile operating system created 9+ years ago. None of us use Linux, osx, or windows.
879https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:50:23     Patryn  Android is 10 years old as well, I believe.
880https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:50:56     Patryn  marios istambul: No, I also don&#39;t use the version of Bitcoin from 2009.
881https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:51:19     Patryn  Both have been heavily updated and modified from their previous iteration.
882https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:51:41     Patryn  marios istambul: Less than 30% of the code is the same. Far from the same version.
883https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:53:05     Patryn  hephyrius: Bitcoin is up 2x from a year ago, not 30x.
884https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20153500        2018-09-25 09:53:37     Patryn  Actually, less than 2x. The price of bitcoin was around $4k one year ago.
885https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:11:19     Patryn  Anon1293102: Dec futures has a discount, no premium.
886https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:11:39     Patryn  Criterion811: trade history
887https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:12:54     Patryn  PinappleFarm: 5x
888https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:13:38     Patryn  tienson412: don&#39;t have a set exit, will close when I feel that the trend has changed direction.
889https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:13:47     Patryn  Sturgy: expired
890https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:14:11     Patryn  Sturgy: few hours ago
891https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:14:25     Patryn  10.million: 1
892https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:15:24     Patryn  10.million: If you say so. Bitmex and my screen say otherwise.
893https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335000        2018-09-28 12:16:23     Patryn  10.million: with around 10x leverage, not including maintenance margin, yes.
894https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:17:01     Patryn  It&#39;s amazing how many people are freaking out about their positions being closed today. Why do you guys trade products which you don&#39;t understand and haven&#39;t bothered to read anything about? Quarterly Sept futures expired today.
895https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:18:43     Patryn  Systenae: lol
896https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:19:04     Patryn  Enhanced Investor: yes. Bitmex did this crazy illegal thing where they let contracts expire on expiry date. Without consent.
897https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:19:39     Patryn  matolsi78: liquidity.
898https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:20:24     Patryn  matolsi78: lol more here. We don&#39;t trade here because there&#39;s less liquidity.
899https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:21:03     Patryn  Nice
900https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=20335500        2018-09-28 12:21:37     Patryn  eyad-btc: I stole them
901https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039000        2018-11-19 22:41:47     Patryn  I can&#39;t seem to open a proper short order. It half-fills, then I get a system error which states that filling would lead to immediate liquidation. That obviously isn&#39;t true. How can I get quick support for this bug?
902https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039000        2018-11-19 22:44:12     Patryn  Cool. Bitmex bug not allowing me to short. Moon time?
903https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039000        2018-11-19 22:45:34     Patryn  Owoc: I did...
904https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039500        2018-11-19 22:49:06     Patryn  Owoc: 10x
905https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039500        2018-11-19 22:51:22     Patryn  Owoc: $50k?
906https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039500        2018-11-19 22:51:41     Patryn  Owoc: $2mm on futures, 500k perpet
907https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039500        2018-11-19 22:52:03     Patryn  LongBTC: They said the same at 7k, 6600, 6300, 6000.
908https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23039500        2018-11-19 22:53:11     Patryn  LongBTC: Is it also different from 5k, 5300, and 5600?
909https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23040000        2018-11-19 22:55:28     Patryn  That&#39;s my short at $4805. Lets see if the Bitmex bug allows it to fill.
910https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23040000        2018-11-19 22:55:35     Patryn  xbtz18
911https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=23040000        2018-11-19 22:56:14     Patryn  Cool. working now.
912https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:15:24     Patryn  Stampede: Already retired, pretty much.
913https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:16:11     Patryn  sanjeetREKT: Not yet Getting pretty close.
914https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:18:09     Patryn  thanks. Yeah, closing soon.
915https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:18:51     Patryn  mfcrypt: Temporarily, if I market close.
916https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:19:22     Patryn  mfcrypt: Unless I get very unlucky with timing, i&#39;m more likely to slowly close with limit orders. Earn from fees instead of paying them, etc.
917https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:20:33     Patryn  nicely: Arbitrage allows this derivative market to move the spot market price.
918https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24624500        2018-12-17 05:23:48     Patryn  sanjeetREKT: Nope. Just have a stack that i&#39;ve been holding onto forever, watching the value dwindle.
919https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:40:15     Patryn  Gotta close this &gt;&lt;
920https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:41:03     Patryn  dullboy: Yes, 500k from xbtusd
921https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:41:27     Patryn  Jommy: Yup. Adding to my position now, just moving to another book as this one expires in 10 days and has no volume right now.
922https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:42:32     Patryn  TurtleSopa: Moving the position out of xbtz18
923https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:43:05     Patryn  TRPLDROP: Liquidation price is $5618. I&#39;m happy to DCA my short if it hits 4k
924https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:45:29     Patryn  Jesus. I can&#39;t even get 100k orders filled on xbtz18
925https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:45:42     Patryn  Someone trade against me &gt;&lt;
926https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690000        2018-12-18 04:46:15     Patryn  amolct: yep
927https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690500        2018-12-18 04:47:11     Patryn  yep, within reason as the price could swing fast.
928https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24690500        2018-12-18 04:48:06     Patryn  TRPLDROP: Profitably :)
929https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691000        2018-12-18 05:13:01     Patryn  /orders```:bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 2000000 @ 3504
930https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691000        2018-12-18 05:13:04     Patryn  gogo
931https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691000        2018-12-18 05:14:10     Patryn  Still there, not pulling it.
932https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691000        2018-12-18 05:14:24     Patryn  amolct: lol.
933https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:18:02     Patryn  Kerlim: Trying to increase it. Roughly 30k.
934https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:18:06     Patryn  Sorry, 3k
935https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:18:25     Patryn  Trying to increase the position to temporarily move over from xbtz18
936https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:18:40     Patryn  Kerlim: Increase my position.
937https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:22:23     Patryn  Shorting
938https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:24:04     Patryn  12454: Bit of both.
939https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24691500        2018-12-18 05:25:50     Patryn  12454: Unfortunately, I never invested when first learning about it. Built a crypto exchange, but was shorting it as early as possible on OKCoin.
940https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:27:57     Patryn  electronicshd: sure
941https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:28:40     Patryn  electronicshd: Scared of what?
942https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:29:24     Patryn  electronicshd: No. I have my entry/exit plans mapped out, reasonable margin levels. The position started off smaller.
943https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:30:04     Patryn  amolct: I have reasonable stop orders, and am not trading with more than I can afford to lose. A loss can be disappointing and stressful, but if you&#39;re trading scared, you shouldn&#39;t be trading.
944https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:30:56     Patryn  Believe in Yourself: 5x
945https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:32:57     Patryn  I&#39;m shorting, but this is taking a really long time to fill &gt;&lt;
946https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:32:59     Patryn  /orders```:bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 2000000 @ 3503
947https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692000        2018-12-18 05:38:02     Patryn  Username in use: I&#39;ll move the order down
948https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:41:28     Patryn  Had to move it down
949https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:41:29     Patryn  /orders```:bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 2000000 @ 3490
950https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:42:26     Patryn  so close!
951https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:42:42     Patryn  CryptoDude: 66 xbtusd, around 440 xbtz18
952https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:43:01     Patryn  knn: 3k
953https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:43:32     Patryn  knn: 850k usd, 3.7mm z18
954https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:43:51     Patryn  Trying to add. One dollar away hah
955https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:43:55     Patryn  knn: Yep
956https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:45:21     Patryn  amolct: $500k usd
957https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:49:48     Patryn  order filling
958https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:49:48     Patryn  yay
959https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24692500        2018-12-18 05:49:50     Patryn  /orders```:bitmex: XBTUSD: Sell 2000000 @ 3490
960https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698000        2018-12-18 08:48:10     Patryn  Cool, got my fill
961https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698000        2018-12-18 08:51:00     Patryn  PickleTickle: Closed some from xbtz18. Added some to xbtusd
962https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698500        2018-12-18 08:51:08     Patryn  scriewy: yeah
963https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698500        2018-12-18 08:51:57     Patryn  cryptologist: Not yet. Need to drop a couple more points hah
964https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698500        2018-12-18 08:52:52     Patryn  scriewy: Yep. around 3mm short on xbtusd, and 4mm on xbtz
965https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24698500        2018-12-18 08:57:19     Patryn  bbv: 3k
966https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24752000        2018-12-19 04:02:13     Patryn  shrek: closed much of that short yesterday, yeah
967https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24772000        2018-12-19 11:20:49     Patryn  Gogo
968https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24772500        2018-12-19 11:24:33     Patryn  augpolariz: novogratz fund investors would have made more money by buying Bitcoin at the top. I don&#39;t know why you care about his trading tips.
969https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24772500        2018-12-19 11:25:04     Patryn  Private placement at $5. Current price like $0.95
970https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24772500        2018-12-19 11:25:33     Patryn  Can we get a mod to ban the autists?
971https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24829500        2018-12-20 08:59:44     Patryn  RIPO: yep. Would have more profit otherwise.
972https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24840000        2018-12-20 11:51:14     Patryn  From fundings
973https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=24840500        2018-12-20 12:00:22     Patryn  hmm
974https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=25329000        2018-12-29 11:20:17     Patryn  Gogo
975https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=25329000        2018-12-29 11:21:12     Patryn  JessieCrypto: 3k
976https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=25329000        2018-12-29 11:21:26     Patryn  Comae: 5x
977https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=25359500        2018-12-30 00:23:58     Patryn  MrClownberg: short
978https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=25998000        2019-01-11 01:55:59     Patryn  SniperVic: yep
979https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26029000        2019-01-11 16:14:48     Patryn  rpnl is from funding fees
980https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26062500        2019-01-12 11:35:59     Patryn  TA Synchronicity: Yep. Futures isn&#39;t looking anyu better.
981https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26126000        2019-01-13 20:16:01     Patryn  Manuel54521: 500k usd
982https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26126000        2019-01-13 20:16:40     Patryn  cheesy: no, my trades are using personal funds. My fund does not get involved in crypto trading.
983https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26126000        2019-01-13 20:17:09     Patryn  Jack_the_Crypter: yes, I make a living by trading.
984https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26126000        2019-01-13 20:17:51     Patryn  Jack_the_Crypter: no, not always. I was an entrepreneur for many years, built and sold startups.
985https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26290500        2019-01-17 08:36:27     Patryn  Where&#39;s that dump
986https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26440500        2019-01-20 15:23:38     Patryn  lastofthemohicans: hope so
987https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:50:56     Patryn  fml funding fees
988https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:51:48     Patryn  gloops4512: Month or so
989https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:52:35     Patryn  king rekt: 10x
990https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:52:37     Patryn  crypto__gain: yep
991https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:53:17     Patryn  king rekt: Start with?
992https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:53:47     Patryn  BillKankers: Magic 8-ball broken. Might not be able to time re-entry before the next leg down.
993https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483000        2019-01-21 14:55:08     Patryn  king rekt: $500k worth, trading it up casually.
994https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26483500        2019-01-21 15:00:31     Patryn  mfcrypt: Hopefully close to 3k
995https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26813500        2019-01-28 14:10:01     Patryn  smallio btc: same
996https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26813500        2019-01-28 14:10:29     Patryn  smallio btc: 42 here
997https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26813500        2019-01-28 14:10:40     Patryn  njaffrey: 10x
998https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26814000        2019-01-28 14:11:02     Patryn  Finding fees
999https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26814000        2019-01-28 14:15:58     Patryn  nirland: price was like 4% lower
1000https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26847000        2019-01-29 07:37:56     Patryn  Already started closing. Started at 6.i
1001https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26847000        2019-01-29 07:37:59     Patryn  6.8
1002https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26847000        2019-01-29 07:38:10     Patryn  Blackbear: 52 bitcoins in funding fees
1003https://www.bitmex.com/chatArchive?channelID=1&count=500&start=26988000        2019-02-01 06:27:27     Patryn  Funding fees were actually 55. Closed some of my position.