· 6 years ago · Dec 26, 2019, 03:42 PM
119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> rofl remorse
219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's all good it's not like I'm shutting off residential lines, I'm dropping whole countries
319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> also
519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i would alo like another shirt kthnx
619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah ive def done that... in my case its accidental :>
819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> no comment
919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> ;)
1019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> they will send you another one
1119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> they go out in batches like every couple of months
1219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we know mother fuckers love those bastards
1319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> word
1419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i ran across someone at defcon who told me he made a bot to run the course
1519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I need to get on that
1619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> run it once get free tishirt
1719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> oh snap
1819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i was like
1919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lulz
2019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> niiiiiice
2119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> he thought i was gonna be mad or something
2219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> and i was like helll no
2319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we love that kinda shit
2419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I got a free ipv6 tunnel with my new shirt <3
2519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i actually dont even have a sage shirt
2619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i just have all the employee ones
2719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I haven't in a few years
2819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I do miss it though
2919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I used to wear it when I was stuck doing stupid jobs
3019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that had nothing to do with tech
3119.12.26|06:55:15 <xmassubz> hmm
3219.12.26|06:55:15 <xmassubz> monte
3319.12.26|06:55:15 <xmassubz> yo
3419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CI6CLSXWcAAWei2.jpg:large
3519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I wore it to meetups and stuff
3619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it was cool
3719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its ipv6 splooge all over it
3819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> gotta love it
3919.12.26|06:55:15 <xmassubz> hmm
4019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
4119.12.26|06:55:15 <xmassubz> mot
4219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I want someof dat ipv6 splooge on me ;)
4319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> rofl
4419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> just email us send me another one
4519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we will
4619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we stopped caring if the dog ate the homework
4719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> hellz yeah
4819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I like teh sounds of that
4919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> :)
5019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'll send over a mail sometime here
5119.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie sighs
5219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I wanted my guy friend to come pay attention to me but he's busy grading papers still :(
5319.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie is lonely
5419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
5519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> what kinda papers
5619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> philosphy final exams
5719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> he's a professor here
5819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we were dating
5919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> not shit's just complicated
6019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I still want him to come and snuggle with me
6119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> :'(
6219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
6319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> why are you laughing at me
6419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's sad
6519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> not funny
6619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you should be crying
6719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> :P
6819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i stand by my original reaction
6919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> :)
7019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I know
7119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm just upset
7219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause he can't figure out what he wants
7319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> which is clearly me
7419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but he hasn't figured it out yet
7519.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie sighs
7619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i guess I could just go find a new boyfriend
7719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but then it'll prolly finally hit him
7819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and then everything will be all fucked up
7919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I'll cry
8019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you know
8119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> guys
8219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> gotta make things complicatred
8319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> guys are usually pretty simple but im bias
8419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> biased
8519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i dont understand people in general but i dont understand chicks even more
8619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> maybe I just need to stop attracting infp guys
8719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> needa find me a nice enfj guy to snuggle me
8819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> whats infp?
8919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> personality type
9019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> like myers briggs
9119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> ahhhh
9219.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie is an infp
9319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah theres like a 4 by 4 grid or something right
9419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i forget
9519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we are all like this too
9619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its like dtmf for personality
9719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
9819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yep yep
9919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's a useful tool too gain insight
10019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i know what you mean
10119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> meh its all over simplification in the end anyway
10219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> about yourself others, and how they interact and what motivates them
10319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
10419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but we built forums
10519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> to talk to each other
10619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and expand on the knowlege of different types
10719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that's where you start to gain really interesting insights about it all
10819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we all stand on the shoulders of giants indeed
10919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> at this point I'm getting really good at typing people
11019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so my guesses are getting really good
11119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so if i can watch you, and tell you what the test is gonna tell you, there is something too it
11219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> lotta people are good at it
11319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause once you learn how to spot the different types it makes it easier to understand people and interact, and find people you are compatable with
11419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I really like NF types
11519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they are the most emotional of the types really
11619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so we tend to get along with each other
11719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but infps get on well with intj and intp peoples
11819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and you will find prolly the majority in tech are intj and intp
11919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> with some infp people like me mixed in
12019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause as emotional and irrational as we seem we possess strong logic which draws us into the computers
12119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i have noticed many people with similar storys on #c over the years
12219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> stories
12319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> even
12419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
12519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> there is something too it all
12619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is not like astrology
12719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is actually founded on real world observatoins and all sorts of info
12819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> everyone is differnt
12919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it accurately describes the lense people veiw reality through
13019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is pretty much what it's about
13119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i noticed about 1:100 in general popluation and about 1:10 on #c
13219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
13319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that's wat I'm saying
13419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah its stats but its not rand
13519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> tech people are disprortionately intj and intp types with infps mixed in
13619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> theres something to it
13719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> for sure
13819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> which
13919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we all tend to get along well enough
14019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so it all works
14119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> most infps become artists and musicans and writers and stuff, lotta counselors and jobs dealing with helping people with damaged emotions
14219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but a lot of us opt to become programmers and work in tech
14319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> if you wanna make an intj mad
14419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> explain to them how emotional logic works
14519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> shit i wrote some of my best code when i was most miserable
14619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intp on the other hand will prolly just run and hide
14719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they like to avoid their feelings cause they are hard to process
14819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i cant do art just stick figures
14919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but i can bang out code
15019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> and it make me feel better
15119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
15219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> so its art enoguh for me
15319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> your likely an intj or an intp
15419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> prolly an intp
15519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> if I was gonna guess based on the little I know of you
15619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> what does that mean again? lol
15719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> intp
15819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i ean
15919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> im thinkin like pointer to int
16019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but im guessing not
16119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> int *p;
16219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> <- teh wurst :(
16319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intp are logicians
16419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that's what they call them
16519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intj I think they call architects or masterminds
16619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> both are very analytical intelligent mind types
16719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intj come off like antisocial computer nerds more than intp sometimes
16819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause they clash with a lot of types
16919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and have an interal sense of being the smartest
17019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and can get a little arogant about it at times
17119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but they are cool
17219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause usually they really are smart as fuck
17319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but sometimes it damages their relationships without them realizing why
17419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they actually get pretty hostile about shit
17519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but for some unfucking explained reason they tend to love infps
17619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it doesn't make much sense
17719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it just is what it is
17819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we are good at making their hearts melt
17919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
18019.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie shrugs
18119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> oh shit
18219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> infps we are underestimated and under appreciated cause when we are doing out thing no one really notices, just people be happy and things be going good around us when we are well, cause we do a lot to tend to others that goes unaccounted for, but people notice when we stop doing that stuff
18319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> thats actually pretty interesting lol
18419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah for real
18519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> these are my observations
18619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i mean i assume its like psychology on crack or something though
18719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah pretty much
18819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that's what it is
18919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> hah
19019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I find it all fascinating
19119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I like to know what makes people the way they are
19219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I can help them better
19319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and communicate better
19419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause I take the time to understand
19519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so when people are able to tell me their type, or when I'm able to accurately guess it, I can change up how I interact with them so the style suits us both better
19619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it helps me know their strenghts and weaknesses, so I know what I can bring to them to ask for help and what I'm able to help them with and how
19719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well i mean at the end of the day its like hard core compounded effects from massive neural networks
19819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
19919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they form patterns
20019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we seperated us out into 16 generic patterns that tend to manifest in people
20119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is what it is
20219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> isfj are the most common type
20319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> right but the 16 different boxes are big
20419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> the world is largely setup to accomodate them
20519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> there are too many of them
20619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I think it's because they been killing off the people that are different for so long it fucked up the pattern distribution
20719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> theres a lot of people out there
20819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we might have to cull them if there numbers get to far outta check
20919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> ;-
21019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> just saying :P
21119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
21219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> not really
21319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but kinda really
21419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
21519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> attempting to steer humanity never works
21619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> stear?
21719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> steer?
21819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i forget which is cow and which is car
21919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> whatever
22019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> saddly instead of recognizing why infp types struggle the most in our world and helping us, they just tell us to stop being infp
22119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it's not possible
22219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we are like this whether we like it or not
22319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but everyone is under the expectation we can just stop being ourselves to fit in the mold they think is normal which is basically isfj
22419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but they aren't normal
22519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah i mean were all half hardware and half software for sure
22619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they just are the biggest group
22719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it fucks the people like me because we are expected to become like them to be allowed to survive
22819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so infp tend to have the worst employment stats, the most poverty, and the highest rate of suicide among the types
22919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we don't fit in well
23019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah but aggregates never tell the full story
23119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> till we find a place we do
23219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> like ten people vote on a movie
23319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> 5 zeros and 5 tens
23419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you get 5
23519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yet no one voted 5
23619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its not a reflection of reality
23719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its just the best we got
23819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> for now
23919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> world isn't setup to accomodate infp types is wat it is, a lot of the less common types struggle with that too
24019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we are just the most likely to be emotionally damaged by not finding a place we can fit in
24119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and are more likely to try and kill ourselves if we cant find a way to be successful which most of us suck at
24219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's pretty fucking sad really
24319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> people talk a lot of shit about us
24419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well i mean you also got weight maps on everything
24519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but if they was just a little fucking nicer they would see we are awesome we are just different
24619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> what makes you care about what
24719.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie doesn't fit into the box
24819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> the saddest part about it
24919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you need to readjust yer weight maps
25019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is infp are rare, it's terrible to lose one of us cause we love everyone
25119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we are the most likely to go like that
25219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> world is cruel like that
25319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> sucks for everyone involved really
25419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well you sure dont get what you deserve in this world
25519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we seek each other out though
25619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you kinda get what you can get
25719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and try to give each other support and hope
25819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it helps
25919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you can influence to a degree
26019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i mean at least at the very least you won the lotto by being born into a human
26119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah I certainly didn't deserve to have to be hurt so much, or have to live in poverty, or wish for death every day of my life
26219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> must suck to land on anything else
26319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but that's my life
26419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah it's so fucked there won't be much else to choose from soon
26519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> fucking plastic choking all the life on earth
26619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the world will be fine
26719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well be fucked
26819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
26919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
27019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> shell get alone just fine without us
27119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> when I think about it all though
27219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it doesn't give my much hope for the future
27319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah
27419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so some days I'm not even sure it's going to be worth sticking around to see it
27519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i used to freak out about like the sun buning out in billions of years
27619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I try not to let it get me down
27719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> still do to a bit
27819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I don't really like living anymore
27919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> things i will clearly not be around for
28019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> makes it hard to get up and do all the things
28119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> side effect of being human
28219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we'll see how it all works out
28319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'll either find a place I fit in to work on stuff and make enought to live or I won't
28419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well i mean life is prepared for that
28519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its quite modular :)
28619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> either way my problems will get sorted
28719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I either find something and prosper
28819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> or freeze or starve to death and have no problems anymorew
28919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> necessity is the mother of invention
29019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> guy I was talking about is trying to get me a spot at the school
29119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> hours suck
29219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> pays not great but better than all the other bullshit here
29319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> prolly still not enough for me to be okay
29419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it'll keep me alive
29519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> alive is all you need for now
29619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> until I find a way to make what else I need or give up
29719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> nah
29819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I fucking need access to healthcare before I end up another suicide
29919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> to be honest
30019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but no one likes that that's a real thing
30119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah well dont fuckin do that
30219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> right
30319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm trying hard not oto
30419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but keeping me from the treatments the doctors all say will help isn't helping you know
30519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I live with suicidal thoughts every day of my life for as long as I can remember though, so I'm resilient
30619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but at the same time, I'm prone to self destructive acts
30719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Im only here cause I'm tough as fucking nails
30819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> sounds like for now you need a ship in a bottle
30919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i have poisoned myself, thrown myself off bridge, slit my wrist, hung myself on a branch not sturdy enough to hold me up, fallen alseep on the train tracks, all sortsa shit that could and or should have killed me and I just survived anyway
31019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> sounds like groundhog day
31119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's fucked
31219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it's all true
31319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but eventually
31419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm not gonna survive
31519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I'm trying to get the help I need before I test my luck with that shit again
31619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause it's always when I'm overwhelmed split second is all it takes to die
31719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> one split second of loosing control to the voice telling me i'll be better off dead and I will be
31819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah there a decent amount of safty networks built into your brain
31919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
32019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they work most the time
32119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's miserable
32219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I manage to survive
32319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but sometimes they fail
32419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> wouldnt have gotten this far if they wernt there
32519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I'm just lucky I'm hard to kill
32619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> over generations i mean
32719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so that shit is a serious problem for me
32819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I could be fucking fine for days on end
32919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and have a thought pop in my head that crushes me at the wrong time and end up dead to it
33019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I been trying to figure out how to fix this shit my whole life
33119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and so far I've not been able too
33219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> makes it hard to be friends with someone like me, takes a certain kinda person to realize they have a good chance of losing someone, and deciding to love them in spite of that
33319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah sounds like you got some loop shit going on
33419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> like getting a song stuf in yourself
33519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> type shit
33619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
33719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it gets really bad
33819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i know that one well :(
33919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I've been socially isolated a lot
34019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i do what I can
34119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm awesome
34219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I'm damaged
34319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it makes me a risk to myself
34419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so when I'm well I'm awesome
34519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> when I'm not I struggle to function
34619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause all my energy and focus is on trying to fight my way through all the fucked up thoughts and not die
34719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you cant diagnose your self the the eyes of someone that doesnt know what theyre looking at
34819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> why you listen to other poeple
34919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> a lot of days I can cope
35019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> when I can't
35119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> waste of time
35219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I talk about it
35319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> before I do anything
35419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> ack shit pee brb
35519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> people don't like hearing it, but the ones that love me would rather I talk about it than act on it
35619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but at the same time, I'm the kind of person that loves people like that, and sometimes I loose them, because lifes fucked and it happens, so I know how it all feels
35719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I just hope I was able to make their time here a little better than it would have been without me, and I live with the loss when it happens
35819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause like they say
35919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> eugh much better
36019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is better to have loved and lost
36119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah you know what you need to do
36219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I do what I'm able too
36319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you need to chillax
36419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> every day I get up and try again
36519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> with mixed success
36619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> always another chance
36719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> to just chill the fuck out
36819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I keep picking myself up and trying again so far
36919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
37019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm not good at it
37119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i cant tell
37219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i know a lot of coders like this
37319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause I gotta constantly worry if I'm going to die cause I can't make enough cash is half of it
37419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> fuck
37519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well that def doesnt help
37619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> without that stress I might be a little more stable I suppose
37719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I'm still fucked in the head
37819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> you need to figure out a way to make stress make you more stable
37919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is what it is, I'm a fucking genius bursting with talent, but my brains fucked at the same time
38019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> cause thats when you need to think clear
38119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> right
38219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but that's one of those things minds like mine struggle with
38319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah its a bitch
38419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> some of us figure it out though
38519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but the majority of us are pretty unstable in this world
38619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i try to think of the mind as like a field with weeds
38719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the more you walk the same path
38819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but I make fucking awsome art
38919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the easier it is to walk
39019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> stock minds are more stable, but they don't all do stuff like that
39119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I guess
39219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
39319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> its a mixed bag
39419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the mind guys would say "neurons that fire together wire together"
39519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
39619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I was fucked from the get go
39719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause my childhood was fucked
39819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I been fighting an uphill battle since day one
39919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> thast not how you should think of that though
40019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> lotta people are like that
40119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> it means you can rewire yourself
40219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but its hard
40319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
40419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> your an intp
40519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I can tell
40619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
40719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> nah for reals
40819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intp are good at pointing out when infp have become irrational or illogical
40919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but tend to have dampended emotional responses to it, making it easier for them to look at us objectively and point out the problems in how we are thinking, but they struggle when they actually want to make us feel better about it
41019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i mean i assume if you chop the spectrum up i have to land somewhere :)
41119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> daum
41219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> which tends to make them feel a little uneven, cause infp are great at helping them cope with their own difficult feelings, so they often seek to help us with ours in return but aren't as well equiped but they are good at correcting the flawed logic leading to problems
41319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i would be forced to tend to agree to that
41419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> lol
41519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
41619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I've analyzed this stuff enough to believe it is pretty accurate
41719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> though everyone is different
41819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> each type tends to possess certain traits in common with the others of that type basically
41919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> and its a 4 by 4?
42019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so it's really about categorizing human traits
42119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it gets deeper
42219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that's generic
42319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but in general
42419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but deep enough to work with
42519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> there are systems that break it up further
42619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but this one is pretty useful as is
42719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> like i guess its nice to know im more than a 4 bit nibble :)
42819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> nah you just posess a bunch of the positive traits intp are known for
42919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so you are likely in that group
43019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> or I'd guess intj
43119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it's hard to tell without knowing someone well
43219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but
43319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'd bet you
43419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> if you go take the test
43519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm right
43619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and that's what it'll tell you
43719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> ahhh theres an iq like test for it eh
43819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
43919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's pretty quick
44019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> if you take it and read about your type
44119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i dont test well with anything
44219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you'll realize they are pretty damn good about describing generic types
44319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it's pretty much just asking you what you are like so they can tell you which group of people most closely matches you
44419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and thats the group it puts you in
44519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it's in depth
44619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> once you get into it
44719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> is it gonna make me choose between star wars star trek and battlestar?!?!
44819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and gets into a bunch of functions they use to break up the groups
44919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> nah
45019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> cause i dont think i could deal with that
45119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i lub them all
45219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it'll ask if it's more important to have a plan or be spontaneous
45319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and stuff like that
45419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> oh plan of course
45519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is it more important to be right, or not hurt someones feelings in a debate
45619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> hurt someones feelings
45719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i try to avoid that over being right
45819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah it's a bunch of stuff like that
45919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and then it looks at all your answers and types you with the group you most closely resemble
46019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so like infp pretty much all pick a similar set of answers to describe ourselves
46119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and so on
46219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test
46319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i dont like being quantified
46419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they gots one there that is pretty quick
46519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's okay
46619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I already guessed your type
46719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm just gonna roll with that if you don't correct me ;)
46819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you have been typed
46919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> rofl
47019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> what ever your type is though I rather enjoy talking with you
47119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
47219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> takes less than *12* mins
47319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> nooooooooooo
47419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> can they just do it with needles?!?!
47519.12.26|06:55:15 * remorse runs :)
47619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> shit now that i think of it i dont even know my bloodtype
47719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> hahaha
47819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah nah they can't do it with blood
47919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> has to be a questionaire
48019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it breaks it into 8 cognitive functions
48119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Each of us has a "dominant" function that is our strongest function and the one that comes most naturally. For discussion sake, assume it describes about 75% of who we are.
48219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Your strong points and the things you are really good at doing will usually be a direct result of what your dominant function is.
48319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Each of us has an "auxiliary" function. It is our second strongest function and it supports the dominant function. Assume the auxiliary function describes about 15% of who we are.
48419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Together the dominant and auxiliary describe about 90% of us. By age ~20, both of these functions are normally well developed.
48519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Thus if you know someone's dominant and auxiliary function you can predict many things about their behavior and their preferences.
48619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> This is the key to understanding people who are different than us.
48719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> The 3rd and 4th function develop later in life and tend to represent areas where we are challenged. Areas where you might be weak or troubled can be predicted by knowing your 3rd and 4th function.
48819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> The 4 letter personality type code, is simply a way to identify what order the functions appear in each of us. For example, an INTJ will have a Introverted iNtuition as a dominant, with Extraverted Thinking as the auxiliary.
48919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> http://www.cognitiveprocesses.com/Cognitive-Functions/
49019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> then it gets deeper
49119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> about every function
49219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and how the order of functions people use break them into types
49319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and then breaks it down into life phases and how they relate to the developement of those functions
49419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> my dominant function being introverted feeling, and the auxillory being extraverted intuition
49519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and this is what it says about the people who's dominant function is introverted feeling
49619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> https://www.careerplanner.com/8CognitiveFunctions/Introverted-Feeling.cfm
49719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Fi is a judging function where the individual makes decisions based on their own personal value system.
49819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Thus people with a dominant Introverted Feeling function will normally be making decisions based on emotions rather than objective facts and data.
49919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Many times, people with Fi do not recognize or understand their own personal values until someone accidentally steps all over them.
50019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Introverted Feelers are the most sensitive of all types. They can react emotionally for no obvious reason. It takes some effort to drill down and uncover these personal values that are so easily insulted.
50119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Now if that all sounds bleak and negative, it's because we have not talked about the strongest benefits of having a dominant Fi.
50219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Introverted Feelers are able to tune into individuals who are in need of help. They can have the highest level of empathy of any types. Why? Because they know what it's like to be hurt, or to be in pain.
50319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Thus Introverted Feelers are often found in nursing, healthcare and counseling careers where they can help people in a one on one fashion.
50419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> How does it work? If a person is emotionally mistreated or hurt by a spouse or partner, the Fi can look deep inside themselves and relate to how that must feel.
50519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Because Introverted Feelers are so easily insulted or offended, they know what it's like to be hurt and they will treat others with sensitivity, caring and warmth.
50619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> If you wanted someone to empathize with you, a person with dominant or auxiliary Introverted Feeling would be a good choice.
50719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and that describes what I'm like pretty fucking well, but I have 3 other cognitive functions I use that get deeper into who I am and how I think and see the world
50819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> ahh just read it
50919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah i can see how people can be classified like this
51019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I had to restart my client so I missed anything since what ever I typed last
51119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> up till ahh just read it
51219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> join only took 87 seconds to sync
51319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
51419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah last thing i saw was
51519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> <EMPixie> and that describes what I'm like pretty fucking well, but I have...
51619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
51719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that was it
51819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so infp and intp and intj as well as infj types are all using extroverted intuition as their auxillary function
51919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it gives us all a certain amount in common in how we think but not a whole lot
52019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah the beauty of the system is that mother nature lies to none of us
52119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> er tht's not quite accurate
52219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but only cause I forget the details
52319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's all pretty well spelled out online
52419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intp types use introverted intuitoin as their dominant function
52519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> Introverted Intuition is the ability to grasp and get a sense of a pattern or plan. Information that is usually hard to understand and dissect is easily processed through Introverted Intuition.
52619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> or rather intjs use that one
52719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they are nerds
52819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's cool
52919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intp use introverted thinking as a dominant function
53019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> just having the word dominant and introverted in the same sentence blows my mind
53119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they are also nerds <3
53219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> People with Introverted Thinking want the world to make sense in a logical manner. They form an internal framework of how the world works. It is constantly being modified and improved through life experience and experiments.
53319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i mean thats how a normal person would do it too
53419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you only think that cause you are an intp
53519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so that's normal too you
53619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> hurmmm
53719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> cant argue the logic
53819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but
53919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> hurrm
54019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so you have people with this strong internal logic, and these people able to dissect patterns in things
54119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and those two types
54219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> are strongly represented in tech
54319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> for obvious reasons
54419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but the you guys get some of us introverted feelers in with you
54519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> because a lot of use possess strong logic and are into the same stuff
54619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we are just super emotional and really easilly hurt or offended, but we are some of the most kind and caring because of it
54719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and these groups are heavilly represented on irc
54819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and it explains a ton of the drama we have here
54919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> ;(
55019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause irc brings in the introverts and especially the computer nerds
55119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> efnet prolly doesn't have a ton of infp people
55219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause efnet is fucked
55319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we are like the most easilly offended people ever
55419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so you do the math
55519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> thats what i still love irc
55619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i will irc on efnet even if its only just me left
55719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but you guys like having us around
55819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the ying and the yang yo
55919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> :)
56019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause when we are well we have an almost magic ability to cheer you guys up and help you process troubled emotions cause that's like all we do
56119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> your thinking and intuitive types might struggle with it more than feeling types
56219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> im one very disconnected mother fucker
56319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause I legit process intense emotions all day we lack the ability to dampen them that other types have but it makes us beautiful people on the inside if we fight through it all
56419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yrah
56519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> in real life 9 times out of 10 im on a totally different planet to whatevers goin on right in front of me... no drugs even
56619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so for people that are easilly able to create that disconnect, they have an easier time day to day, but when they catch those feelings it hits them hard cause they aren't as practiced at processing them
56719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah i never tried to disconnect
56819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and that's when they notice how magical your introverted feelers are
56919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> just kinda drifted lol
57019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause we done felt that shit you are feeling before, and figured out what to do with it
57119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we help you process it without you even realizing
57219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so you don't get stuck
57319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but like I said, my type benefits a lot from the types with strong internal logic, cause they are great at spoting flaws in my own internal logic that isn't as well developed
57419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so we get along wel
57519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we help you guys process difficult emotions when you get them, and you guys try to point out when we are legit being irrational because of some flawed logic or just straight lack of using it
57619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> which is a lot of the time, cause we all about how shit makes us feel and what we believe is right and wrong
57719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we develope or interal morals strongly
57819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we learn what we believe is right and wrong based on how shit makes us feel
57919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so if some shit hurts us, we prolly aint gonna do that shit to others
58019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah this is futher in psychology than im willing to dabble :)
58119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i respected the pursute though
58219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah it's pretty immersive
58319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> but its above my paygrade :)
58419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but my point is your likely using introverted thinking as your dominant function
58519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I like talking to people who do
58619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i am def introverted by nature
58719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause they tend to be great intellectual conversations
58819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> not like i dont like peoplep or anything
58919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> nah
59019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i just get my cool down by being by myself
59119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we just get exhausted by too much social contact or too many people
59219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so we recharge in our alone time
59319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yes
59419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> exactly
59519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> introverts aren't asocial we just need time alone to process our thoughts to integrate the new information and experiences we gain in social settings
59619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> because we are constantly revising our world views
59719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> intps are constantly improving thier logic, and infps are constantly improving their sense of morality
59819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but it gets deep down into our underused functions
59919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and often strenghten those functions and learning to use them is what helps us become stable healthy people later in life
60019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause we come to rely on our other cognitive functions where they are better suited than our dominant ones
60119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and we are all capable of using any cognitive function, it's just about which you actually use for stuff
60219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its an interesting mother fucker
60319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> oh
60419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I find it extremely fascinating
60519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> as you can tell I'm sure
60619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> man today is 21 days of when my dad died (of natual causes)
60719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> long ago but still sucks
60819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> err
60919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> s/days/years/
61019.12.26|06:55:15 * EMPixie hugs remorse
61119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you must miss him a lot
61219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's never easy to lose the ones we love
61319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> no matter how much time passes
61419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah it sucks
61519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> it never goes away
61619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> just kidna becomes a part of you
61719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah it does
61819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but that's because the memories of that person are part of you
61919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so they live on in your heart
62019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it hurts though
62119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> cause they leave a kind of hole that can never be filled
62219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is good to cherish your memories though, and focus on the time you did have together, the time you have to spend apart won't hurt as much if your able too
62319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> is kind of about what you focus on, you can focus on the pain of the loss and time you spend apart, or you can focus on the beauty of the time you had together
62419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you can never really just do one or the other, but it won't hurt as much if you keep the good memories in mind
62519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so you can focus on the hole they leave, or you can fill that hole with the good memories as best as you can
62619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> yeah im not focused on the hole
62719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i think my dad would be happy with the birds eye of what im trying to do
62819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah that's a good outlook
62919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm sure he would be proud of you
63019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I've lost people too, and sometimes as much as it hurts I gotta be glad I had the time I had with them, and remember they loved me and nothing can ever change that
63119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> eugh i knoe :(
63219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I know they looking down on me with love where ever they are
63319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i miss niv
63419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> etc
63519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I cry everytime I think about it
63619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> :/
63719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I wish I'd have had more time to talk to him that's for sure
63819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i think everyone is still sad about it, we all wish he was still here
63919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I've lost a lot people I care about this past year
64019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I didn't know niv as long as a lot of his friends here, but I talked to him almost everyday in chat for a long time, I cared about him a lot he was a good person
64119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I certainly miss him often
64219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> we still keep him in our topic
64319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i had a #c can you topic it contest
64419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> while keeping his nick in functional code
64519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> even if just a comment
64619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> -// Topic for #c: C Programming Discussion | char*b="L+#G+'&#=+':#G5#=5'0#3&'S#=:'+#30':'+#)+'?'?#G4#G4#G4#";main(a){while(a=a>39?a-5:*b++)putchar("\n #$*"[a%5]);}//RIP nujrzydvl
64719.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> the challange was to make the picture of that tree that that code produces
64819.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> and honor niv
64919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> and fit in the topic
65019.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> that one was from dave0
65119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> awwwww
65219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
65319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> that fits perfectly into to the topic without a byte to spare
65419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> beautiful
65519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I gotta make myself get back to work on my projects
65619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> kinda late tonight
65719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> maybe I can devote part of tomorrow to writing this code
65819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i want to upload what I have now to github too, I should do some of that tomorrow
65919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'll show you have I'm working on as my side project
66019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> <3
66119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> i hearts teh side projects always
66219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's not a lot of code, but it's pretty well refine code
66319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> quality over quantity always
66419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> all the functions to generate packets, and I've got some stuff I'm working on to unpack them too I'll add soon
66519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> i stripped out a lot of the code reuse, so now the ipv4 and ipv6 functions and structures are integrated
66619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I rewrote the structures for the packets, but I'm on the fence about it, I think ultimately I'm going to switch to that, but I want to get this working with netinet first as an example of how to get started with this, then switch the code to use my headers in the next branch
66719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I reused the checksum function from the one rfc I forget the number, and then wrote my own code to do all the types of checksums using it
66819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and now the focus is gonna be on building out the code to unpack the packets on the other side, but got detoured by drivers stuff
66919.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> hah yeah i know which crc yer talkin about :)
67019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I figured as much
67119.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> well theres a couple of strats there
67219.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> could just catch evereverything and ifgure out the difference after
67319.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> or you can tr yto track everything
67419.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> try to track even
67519.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> its doable
67619.12.26|06:55:15 <remorse> like you remmeber that you sent PING to 1.2.3.4 with internal seq/id of 0xdeadbeef (random id)
67719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah I'll be working on setting that stuff up soon
67819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> It often seems that at the very moment they feel confident about a given conclusion or decision, Ne finds a way to inject doubt and uncertainty. This can be frustrating for INFPs who feel they are working so hard to find their rightful place in the world. At times, Ne may even cause them to worry that they have made no real progress toward anything substantial, or worse, that they may never find what they are
67919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> looking for.
68019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> oh snap
68119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's like they are in my head sometimes
68219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> For INFPs, the allure of their inferior function, Extraverted Thinking (Te), is illustrated in their frequent attraction to characteristically T careers such as math, science, law, economics, computers, accounting, engineering, and the like. The most ?left-brained? of all functions, Te can be associated with structure, organization, quantification, and the ability to manage T things, such as time and finances.
68319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> The concerns of Te are myriad, spanning from the laws of physics, to state and federal laws, to workplace policies and procedures, to time management, to household organization.
68419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> At times, the measured and rational character of Te may cause INFPs to be mistaken for thinking types.
68519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> rofl
68619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> sometimes you could almost mistake us for being rational <3
68719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so when I'm working on this code stuff, I'm also working on developing my inferior cognitive function which helps with integration
68819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> there are a bunch of types that have a knack for tech but a lot of them don't persue it
68919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so it's pretty well dominated by intp and intj in a lot of spaces
69019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I use extraverted thinking and extraverted intution, estj types use these too they are the executive types, and they rarely dive into the tech even though it would be easy for them too
69119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's a little more exhausting for me to working with extraverted thinking because its my inferior function, but when I do I'm bringing the same cognitive functions to the table as the executive types would if they cared to get into it
69219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> we kind bridge the gap between the two mind types dominating tech, but it's kinda draining for us
69319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> to work with those functions
69419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> but we promote harmony and add a lot in addition to our tech skils especially in terms of ethics and morallity cause we are into tackling those topic
69519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so saddly we are often overlooked, but we actually bring a lot of skills with us that can be lacking without us
69619.12.26|06:55:15 <ces> hey EMPixie
69719.12.26|06:55:15 <ces> u up l8
69819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> kinda
69919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> yeah
70019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> crying
70119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and thinking about killing myself
70219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> you know
70319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I hate the body I live in
70419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm going to kill it so I never have to wake up in it again if I can't make enough to get the help I need
70519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> fuck life
70619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's not worth living like this
70719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I got about 0 hope of being able to make enough
70819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I'm probably going to kill myself in a few weeks
70919.12.26|06:55:15 <fckd> mornin
71019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> because this life is garbage
71119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and I'll never be worth enough to get the help I need
71219.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> and no one cared enough about whether I lived or died to help me
71319.12.26|06:55:15 <fckd> bbl
71419.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> so I'm probably going to die
71519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it is what it is
71619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm tired of it all anyway
71719.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I don't even want ot stay and try and fix this life
71819.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I just want to not exist at all
71919.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> get a livejournal
72019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> won't need one
72119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> fuck life
72219.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> u need one right now
72319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I hate living
72419.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> the whole backlog is emo buffer
72519.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> we need you to have one
72619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I'm not gonna stay long enough to use it
72719.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> you could use it now
72819.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> instead of spamming the channel with emoblog
72919.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> I guess I could just give up now too
73019.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> that doesn't sound so bad
73119.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> why fucking talk about it
73219.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> do a flip
73319.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> when I can just go kill myself
73419.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> nobody here wants to be your therapist
73519.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> it's all good
73619.12.26|06:55:15 <EMPixie> they can fucking live with it then when I'm gone
73719.12.26|06:55:15 <weev_> lol sounds like they're going to deadjournal
73819.12.26|06:55:15 <***> Playback Complete.
73919.12.26|07:25:27 <axis> lol weev
74019.12.26|07:29:52 <axis> fucking broken coffee pot.
74119.12.26|07:36:19 <weev_> my limit for this tranny drama is one day, i offered them paying work yesterday when they were whining about not being able to get a job
74219.12.26|07:37:19 <weev_> told them if they installed signal and msg'd me they'd have gainful employment in the morning, merry christmas
74319.12.26|07:37:32 <weev_> next day wake up, just more sobbing about how nobody wants to help them (give them free shit)
74419.12.26|07:37:41 <weev_> people like this should be beaten to death
74519.12.26|07:38:03 <weev_> seriously a lead pipe should be used to bash their brains upon the pavement
74619.12.26|07:38:16 <weev_> and everyone who acts remotely like that should be forced upon all fours and made to taste the brains
74719.12.26|07:38:35 <weev_> so that they can be brought to the realization that they're going to be next if they don't stop being a useless whining faggot and get a fucking job
74819.12.26|07:38:38 <weev_> kill fags
74919.12.26|07:38:39 <weev_> kill trannies
75019.12.26|07:38:42 <weev_> kill whiners
75119.12.26|07:38:47 <weev_> kill their families too imo
75219.12.26|08:03:19 <axis> I prefer your speel than hers
75319.12.26|08:03:27 <redbull> yo
75419.12.26|08:03:30 <redbull> subz
75519.12.26|08:06:40 <elf> sup sup
75619.12.26|08:06:42 <elf> sup axis
75719.12.26|08:08:40 <axis> just walked to the store did about 1.9 miles
75819.12.26|08:09:05 <axis> now I"m working from home, bbl while I do shit
75919.12.26|08:10:53 <elf> dammn okay i see
76019.12.26|08:56:48 <axis> I guess I'll turn this CentOS host into a libvirt/kvm integration
76119.12.26|08:56:59 <axis> anyone here have any virtualization experience with libvirt
76219.12.26|08:57:18 <axis> or any alternatives that are not Xen and ESXi or VMware
76319.12.26|08:57:26 <axis> I want command line only virtualization management
76419.12.26|08:57:41 <axis> yeah I can connect the libvirt/kvm to a remote VNC instanfce to view it
76519.12.26|08:57:48 <axis> and that's enough GUI management as I need
76619.12.26|08:58:07 <axis> the problem with Xen is that iti would never see my virtual NICs
76719.12.26|08:58:14 <axis> it only saw eth0
76819.12.26|08:58:20 <axis> and I have eth0:0-eth0:15
76919.12.26|09:02:39 <axis> "The virsh program is the main interface for managing virsh guest domains. The program can be used to create, pause, and shutdown domains. It can also be used to list current domains. Libvirt is a C toolkit to interact with the virtualization capabilities...The library aims at providing a long term stable C API . It currently supports Xen, QEmu, KVM , LXC , OpenVZ, VirtualBox and VMware ESX ."
77019.12.26|09:22:43 <chopchop1> oh neat a 20 page back scroll of pixie sheet
77119.12.26|09:25:02 <elf> sup axis
77219.12.26|09:25:04 <elf> you around?
77319.12.26|09:26:41 <anettu> lol weev_, nice job saying what everyone r thinking :)
77419.12.26|09:26:52 <elf> 'sup anettu
77519.12.26|09:28:36 <anettu> yo
77619.12.26|09:28:46 <anettu> vacationing