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3Bicentennial hats here!
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7Bicentennial hats.
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11Excuse me, do you feel patriotic?
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15Patriotic is... is not the real feeling
16that I have right now.
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20People like bicentennial hats,
21I sell 'em bicentennial hats.
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25Uh-huh.
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29Ladies and gentlemen,
30of this beautiful day
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34and this bicentennial day, right here,
35downtown in New York City,
36
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39ladies and gentlemen.
40
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43Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
44songwriter of New York City.
45
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48Otherwise, Uncle Sam is going to sing
49
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52one of his versions
53of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
54
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57Ladies and gentlemen,
58"The Star-Spangled Banner" with new music.
59
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62Words by Francis Scott Key
63and music by Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
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67dedicated to the future of America,
68God save the republic.
69
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72Are you ready, maestro?
73
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76No maestros? I'll sing it myself.
77
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80<i>♪ O say, can you see
81By the dawn's early light ♪</i>
82
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85It's one dollar.
86
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89Get your copies here.
90
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93I've got four versions of...
94
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97<i>♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪</i>
98
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101<i>♪ Play a song for me ♪</i>
102
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105<i>♪ I'm not sleepy
106And there is no place I'm going to ♪</i>
107
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110<i>♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪</i>
111
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114<i>♪ Play a song for me ♪</i>
115
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118<i>♪ In the jingle jangle morning ♪</i>
119
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122<i>♪ I'll come followin' you ♪</i>
123
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126<i>♪ Though I know that evenin's empire ♪</i>
127
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130<i>♪ Has returned into sand... ♪</i>
131
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134We're gathered
135in this historic house
136
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139for the celebration
140of the 200th anniversary
141
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144of the United States,
145
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148but I refer to the words that were spoken
149
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152by those who at the time
153of the Declaration of Independence
154
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157thought of the mission of America,
158
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161what America could mean to the world.
162
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165And one of them said
166that we act not just for ourselves,
167
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170but for all mankind.
171
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174<i>♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man</i> ♪
175
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178<i>♪ Play a song for me... ♪</i>
179
18042
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182Saigon had fallen.
183
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186People had seemed to, uh,
187lost their sense of,
188
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191uh, conviction for...
192
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195for just about anything.
196
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199<i>♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man...</i> ♪
200
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203Lot of arguments about why...
204
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207America was chased out of Vietnam...
208
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211in such a humiliating way.
212
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215Two people tried to shoot the president
216in one month.
217
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220<i>♪ Take me on a trip
221Upon your magic... ♪</i>
222
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225Let us set for our goal in 1976
226
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229to move forward in the realm
230of the American spirit.
231
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234<i>♪ My hands can't feel to grip ♪</i>
235
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238That the opportunity that everybody
239in this room has had...
240
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243is something that is a realizable dream
244
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247that can be achieved
248
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251for anyone who has the good fortune
252to be born in this country,
253
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256or anyone who has the good fortune
257to come to this country.
258
25960
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261<i>♪ Ready for to fade
262Into my own parade... ♪</i>
263
26461
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266The idea was to put a tour up,
267
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270combination of different acts
271on the same stage
272
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275for a variety of, uh, musical styles.
276
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279I wouldn't say it was a, uh,
280traditional revue,
281
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284but it was in the, uh, traditional...
285um...
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289form of, uh, of a revue.
290
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293That's all clumsy bullshit.
294
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297- Okay.
298- Y'know.
299
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302- So what...
303- I'm trying to get to the...
304
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307To the core thing.
308
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311To the core of what
312this Rolling Thunder thing is all about,
313
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316and I don't have a clue,
317
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320because it's not... It's about nothing.
321
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324It's a... It's just something that happened
32540 years ago.
326
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329And that's the truth of it.
330
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333- Why don't we go down that road?
334- Okay, we can.
335
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338Let's go.
339
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342All right, let's go.
343
34479
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346I don't remember a thing
347about Rolling Thunder.
348
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351- Okay.
352- I mean, it... it happened
353
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356so long ago, I wasn't even born, you know?
357
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360Uh, I... So, what do you wanna know?
361
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364<i>♪ And take me disappearing ♪</i>
365
36684
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368<i>♪ Through the smoke rings of my mind ♪</i>
369
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372<i>♪ Down the foggy ruins of time ♪</i>
373
37486
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376<i>♪ Far past the frozen leaves ♪</i>
377
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380<i>♪ The haunted, frightened trees ♪</i>
381
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384<i>♪ Out to the windy beach ♪</i>
385
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388<i>♪ Far from the twisted reach
389Of crazy sorrow ♪</i>
390
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393<i>♪ Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky ♪</i>
394
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397<i>♪ With one hand waving free ♪</i>
398
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401<i>♪ Silhouetted by the sea ♪</i>
402
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405<i>♪ Circled by the circus sands ♪</i>
406
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409<i>♪ With all memory and fate ♪</i>
410
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413<i>♪ Driven deep beneath the waves ♪</i>
414
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417<i>♪ Let me forget about today
418Until tomorrow ♪</i>
419
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422<i>♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man ♪</i>
423
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426<i>♪ Play a song for me ♪</i>
427
42899
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430<i>♪ I'm not sleepy... ♪</i>
431
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434Is that Bob Dylan?
435That is Bob Dylan!
436
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439Life isn't about finding yourself...
440
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443or finding anything.
444Life is about creating yourself.
445
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448- Playing tonight?
449- And creating things.
450
451104
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453And I want to introduce
454another fine...
455
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458entertainer here at Folk City,
459
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462so everybody...
463
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466Summer, 1975.
467
468108
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470It was a very odd scene in New York.
471
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474Unusual. Sort of.
475The folk era had died out. Or did it?
476
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479Joan Baez
480
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483and her friend Bob Dylan!
484
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487Let's have a nice hand for Joan Baez...
488
489113
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491Rumor came around
492that the inspired Dylan was back,
493
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496gathering all... all his forces.
497
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500<i>♪ When ev'rything that I'm sayin' ♪</i>
501
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504<i>♪ You can say it just as good ♪</i>
505
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508Woo!
509
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512And pretty soon,
513they were all jamming together
514
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517as if they were young musicians
518having fun,
519
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522actually in direct contact
523with each other.
524
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527<i>♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪</i>
528
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531<i>♪ And all the hills echoèd ♪</i>
532
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535<i>♪ My name is Juanano de Castro ♪</i>
536
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539Lord...
540
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543<i>♪ My father was a Spanish grandee ♪</i>
544
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547Excuse me, please!
548
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551We're really running short of time.
552I wanna introduce...
553
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556Miss Patti Smith and Eric Anderson.
557
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560Let's have a nice hand.
561
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564Let's hear it! Get up here!
565
566131
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568There was a...
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572There was an archer...
573
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576There was an archer who was in love
577with his sister.
578
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581So, the archer looked at his sister
582
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585and he said,
586
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589"All the madness
590between me and you is real private."
591
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594But the sister was too scared,
595so the sister...
596
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599the sister put down her cigarette
600and she married the sultan.
601
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604So the archer became a... the archer
605for the king.
606
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609So, it was the wedding night,
610and the sultan and the sister
611
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614were gonna get married.
615
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618And so...
619
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622the archer went out the door,
623and he had on his armor,
624
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627and he was going. There was all, like...
628
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631You know how like the gran... ground was
632in 16th-century Japan?
633
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636It was black and green like a chessboard.
637
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640So the archer was walking
641on the black part of the chessboard,
642
643148
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645and he looked
646at the black part of the chessboard,
647
648149
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650and it looked
651like the back of his sister's hair.
652
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655And so...
656
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659You know how it is.
660
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663Yeah.
664
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667Anyway, it looked... Oh, what a mess.
668
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671Looked like the back of his sister's hair,
672
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675and so he couldn't advance
676and be the king's archer no more,
677
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680because he looked over at the palace,
681and over at the palace,
682
683157
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685he saw his sister undressing
686
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689for the sultan.
690
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693So the prince took off a...
694took off all his armor,
695
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698and he started walking toward the palace.
699
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702He started walking in another direction,
703
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706started walking in another dimension,
707
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710started walking in another dimension.
711
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714He moved in another dimension.
715
716165
71700:09:16,305 --> 00:09:19,600
718<i>♪ I move in another dimension ♪</i>
719
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722<i>♪ I move in another dimension ♪</i>
723
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726<i>♪ I move in another dimension ♪</i>
727
728168
72900:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,152
730<i>♪ I move in another dimension ♪</i>
731
732169
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734<i>♪ And he kept on walking ♪</i>
735
736170
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738<i>♪ And he walked real slow ♪</i>
739
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742<i>♪ Here is the first archer ♪</i>
743
744172
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746<i>♪ In rock 'n' roll ♪</i>
747
748173
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750<i>♪ He walked toward the palace ♪</i>
751
752174
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754<i>♪ Toward the palace of answers ♪</i>
755
756175
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758<i>♪ He took big steps ♪</i>
759
760176
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762<i>♪ He took big steps ♪</i>
763
764177
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766<i>♪ He walked seven ways ♪</i>
767
768178
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770<i>♪ He walked seven ways ♪</i>
771
772179
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774<i>♪ He freed the elements ♪</i>
775
776180
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778<i>♪ The hurricane just burst
779From his hands ♪</i>
780
781181
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783<i>♪ You are my sunshine ♪</i>
784
785182
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787<i>- ♪ My only sunshine ♪</i>
788- Let's go!
789
790183
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792<i>♪ You make me happy</i> ♪
793
794184
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796<i>- ♪ When skies are gray ♪</i>
797- Whoopee!
798
799185
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801<i>♪ You'll never know, dear
802How much I... ♪</i>
803
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806October, November, uh...
807
808187
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810Dylan might have some idea
811to do something.
812
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815Sort of like a... con man,
816
817189
81800:10:38,512 --> 00:10:40,598
819carny medicine show of old,
820
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823where you just get in a bus
824and go from town...
825
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828or a carriage, and go from town to town.
829
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832It's like Dylan is taking us out to try
833and give us each... He's presenting us.
834
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837I mean, that's his conception.
838I mean, it hasn't been made overt.
839
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842His idea is, uh...
843
844195
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846to show how beautiful he is...
847
848196
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850...by showing how beautiful we are...
851
852197
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854by showing how beautiful...
855
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858the ensemble is.
859
860199
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862So, it's to show the actual community.
863
864200
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866Which is way... the way... the way life is,
867the way that life of poets is.
868
869201
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871<i>♪ I live in an apartment ♪</i>
872
873202
87400:11:13,881 --> 00:11:15,675
875<i>♪ Sink leaks through the walls ♪</i>
876
877203
87800:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,677
879<i>♪ Lower East Side full of bedbugs ♪</i>
880
881204
88200:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,637
883<i>♪ Junkies in the halls ♪</i>
884
885205
88600:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,597
887<i>♪ House been broken into ♪</i>
888
889206
89000:11:21,681 --> 00:11:23,641
891<i>♪ Tibetan thangkas stole ♪</i>
892
893207
89400:11:23,724 --> 00:11:25,559
895<i>♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪</i>
896
897208
89800:11:25,643 --> 00:11:27,478
899<i>♪ And made my love a fool ♪</i>
900
901209
90200:11:27,561 --> 00:11:29,522
903<i>♪ Speed freaks took my statues ♪</i>
904
905210
90600:11:29,605 --> 00:11:32,733
907<i>♪ And made my love a fool ♪</i>
908
909211
91000:11:35,111 --> 00:11:37,238
911- Do you wanna hear more or...?
912- Yeah.
913
914212
91500:11:37,321 --> 00:11:38,864
916I got this big audition.
917
918213
91900:11:39,448 --> 00:11:42,576
920There was this party
921at Allen Ginsberg's apartment.
922
923214
92400:11:42,660 --> 00:11:44,420
925And that's where you met Dylan?
926
927215
92800:11:44,453 --> 00:11:45,453
929Uh, yes.
930
931216
93200:11:46,247 --> 00:11:49,458
933- What did you think of him?
934- Uh, Dylan was fine.
935
936217
93700:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,470
938There were all these crazy people,
939
940218
94100:11:52,503 --> 00:11:54,338
942all getting high and coming up to him
943
944219
94500:11:54,422 --> 00:11:57,466
946and spinning faster and faster,
947and Bob didn't react.
948
949220
95000:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,802
951I think he just, uh,
952watched the whole thing.
953
954221
95500:11:59,885 --> 00:12:01,470
956I think he liked the chaos.
957
958222
95900:12:01,554 --> 00:12:05,516
960<i>♪ I am a rake and a rambling boy ♪</i>
961
962223
96300:12:06,517 --> 00:12:10,938
964<i>♪ There's many a city I did enjoy ♪</i>
965
966224
96700:12:11,021 --> 00:12:16,402
968- Woo!
969<i>- ♪ But now I married me a better wife ♪</i>
970
971225
97200:12:17,069 --> 00:12:21,198
973<i>♪ And I love her dearer
974Than I love my life ♪</i>
975
976226
97700:12:27,455 --> 00:12:30,082
978My idea was
979to have a kind of a jug band,
980
981227
98200:12:30,166 --> 00:12:31,584
983uh, for the whole show,
984
985228
98600:12:32,126 --> 00:12:37,631
987something, uh, along the lines
988of maybe, uh, Kweskin Jug Band...
989
990229
99100:12:38,674 --> 00:12:39,674
992but that didn't happen.
993
994230
99500:12:42,219 --> 00:12:45,556
996They were in the middle
997of the rehearsals at SIR Studio,
998
999231
100000:12:45,639 --> 00:12:50,060
1001and I talked to Levy, and he asked Dylan
1002if it was all right for me to shoot
1003
1004232
100500:12:50,144 --> 00:12:51,604
1006B-roll of the rehearsal.
1007
1008233
100900:12:52,062 --> 00:12:55,733
1010Dylan was all right with it,
1011but Levy told me there was no budget.
1012
1013234
101400:12:55,816 --> 00:12:58,611
1015Because I thought that this was really
1016going to go somewhere,
1017
1018235
101900:12:58,694 --> 00:13:00,112
1020I took all the money that I had,
1021
1022236
102300:13:00,196 --> 00:13:02,740
1024and I paid for everything
1025out of my own pocket.
1026
1027237
102800:13:05,034 --> 00:13:07,721
1029- Did Bob like you?
1030- I don't know, who knows?
1031
1032238
103300:13:07,745 --> 00:13:09,622
1034He was...
1035It was like looking into a mirror.
1036
1037239
103800:13:09,705 --> 00:13:11,499
1039You either saw what you wanted to see,
1040
1041240
104200:13:11,582 --> 00:13:13,083
1043or you hated what you saw.
1044
1045241
104600:13:13,584 --> 00:13:16,337
1047I can tell you this,
1048back then I used to smoke,
1049
1050242
105100:13:16,420 --> 00:13:18,214
1052and I held my cigarette like this,
1053
1054243
105500:13:18,297 --> 00:13:19,924
1056you know, the European style.
1057
1058244
105900:13:20,216 --> 00:13:23,928
1060After that night at Ginsberg's,
1061Bob started holding it like that, too.
1062
1063245
106400:13:24,220 --> 00:13:25,262
1065That was me.
1066
1067246
106800:13:25,346 --> 00:13:27,306
1069<i>♪ Rita May, Rita May ♪</i>
1070
1071247
107200:13:28,891 --> 00:13:30,893
1073<i>♪ How did you ever get that way? ♪</i>
1074
1075248
107600:13:32,812 --> 00:13:34,688
1077<i>♪ When'd you ever see the light? ♪</i>
1078
1079249
108000:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,526
1081<i>♪ Don't you ever feel afraid? ♪</i>
1082
1083250
108400:13:40,820 --> 00:13:42,905
1085<i>♪ You got me burning and a-turning ♪</i>
1086
1087251
108800:13:42,988 --> 00:13:44,740
1089<i>♪ But I know I must be learning ♪</i>
1090
1091252
109200:13:44,824 --> 00:13:45,824
1093<i>♪ Rita May ♪</i>
1094
1095253
109600:13:49,328 --> 00:13:52,665
1097<i>♪ And I don't sense affection ♪</i>
1098
1099254
110000:13:52,748 --> 00:13:55,251
1101<i>♪ No gratitude or love ♪</i>
1102
1103255
110400:13:55,960 --> 00:13:59,588
1105<i>♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪</i>
1106
1107256
110800:13:59,672 --> 00:14:02,508
1109<i>- ♪ But to the stars above ♪</i>
1110- Yeah!
1111
1112257
111300:14:03,551 --> 00:14:08,097
1114<i>♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪</i>
1115
1116258
111700:14:10,891 --> 00:14:15,271
1118<i>♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪</i>
1119
1120259
112100:14:16,772 --> 00:14:19,191
1122<i>♪ To the valley below ♪</i>
1123
1124260
112500:14:21,902 --> 00:14:25,197
1126I was going
1127to a jazz musician friend of mine house
1128
1129261
113000:14:25,281 --> 00:14:26,615
1131in the Lower East Side,
1132
1133262
113400:14:26,991 --> 00:14:31,829
1135and I was just about to cross the street,
1136and a car cut me off.
1137
1138263
113900:14:33,122 --> 00:14:34,122
1140It was Bob.
1141
1142264
114300:14:34,456 --> 00:14:35,541
1144It was Dylan.
1145
1146265
114700:14:37,126 --> 00:14:38,126
1148And...
1149
1150266
115100:14:39,461 --> 00:14:40,838
1152It was never verbalized.
1153
1154267
115500:14:40,963 --> 00:14:43,257
1156I knew who he was, or he knew I knew.
1157
1158268
115900:14:43,424 --> 00:14:45,676
1160Just sort of passed, you know.
1161
1162269
116300:14:47,052 --> 00:14:50,431
1164We just played music all day
1165and all night.
1166
1167270
116800:14:50,598 --> 00:14:54,393
1169We went to The Bottom Line
1170and played with Muddy Waters,
1171
1172271
117300:14:54,810 --> 00:14:58,022
1174and we went that night
1175to Victoria Spivey's house.
1176
1177272
117800:14:58,606 --> 00:15:00,357
1179She's an old blues singer.
1180
1181273
118200:15:01,066 --> 00:15:02,066
1183And, um...
1184
1185274
118600:15:02,234 --> 00:15:06,405
1187we played music
1188till about six in the morning.
1189
1190275
119100:15:06,488 --> 00:15:07,740
1192It was really great.
1193
1194276
119500:15:07,865 --> 00:15:10,034
1196She wears a turtle...
1197
1198277
119900:15:10,117 --> 00:15:13,245
1200<i>♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪</i>
1201
1202278
120300:15:13,329 --> 00:15:15,122
1204<i>♪ And a nylon shoe ♪</i>
1205
1206279
120700:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,377
1208<i>♪ She wears a turtleneck sweater ♪</i>
1209
1210280
121100:15:21,086 --> 00:15:23,505
1212<i>♪ And a nylon shoe ♪</i>
1213
1214281
121500:15:26,175 --> 00:15:28,302
1216<i>♪ There's nothing she won't say ♪</i>
1217
1218282
121900:15:28,385 --> 00:15:30,888
1220<i>♪ And there's nothing that she won't do ♪</i>
1221
1222283
122300:15:35,017 --> 00:15:39,021
1224There are 52 people.
1225If each person asks him is he okay,
1226
1227284
122800:15:39,730 --> 00:15:42,983
1229it becomes a long, hard
1230question and answer period for him.
1231
1232285
123300:15:43,150 --> 00:15:44,902
1234Is the light bothering him?
1235
1236286
123700:15:45,194 --> 00:15:46,487
1238Is the guitar right?
1239
1240287
124100:15:46,737 --> 00:15:48,072
1242Does he like the lighting?
1243
1244288
124500:15:48,155 --> 00:15:49,657
1246Is the sound monitor okay?
1247
1248289
124900:15:49,907 --> 00:15:53,077
1250He's a big man,
1251and he knows what he wants.
1252
1253290
125400:15:53,327 --> 00:15:55,371
1255♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
1256
1257291
125800:15:56,121 --> 00:15:57,998
1259♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
1260
1261292
126200:15:58,707 --> 00:16:03,087
1263<i>♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪</i>
1264
1265293
126600:16:04,254 --> 00:16:05,881
1267Five ten.
1268
1269294
127000:16:06,632 --> 00:16:07,992
1271- Five ten?
1272- Yeah.
1273
1274295
127500:16:09,259 --> 00:16:10,259
1276So what does he do?
1277
1278296
127900:16:10,803 --> 00:16:12,972
1280He's a director.
1281
1282297
128300:16:13,347 --> 00:16:14,181
1284Theater.
1285
1286298
128700:16:14,264 --> 00:16:15,264
1288Theater?
1289
1290299
129100:16:16,308 --> 00:16:17,476
1292But that's not...
1293
1294300
129500:16:17,559 --> 00:16:20,396
1296That's why I'm saying it's tricky
1297because it's not marriage, is it?
1298
1299301
130000:16:20,479 --> 00:16:21,998
1301I mean, unless you actually make it...
1302
1303302
130400:16:22,022 --> 00:16:24,274
1305Well, I mean,
1306maybe marriage to the theater.
1307
1308303
130900:16:25,734 --> 00:16:26,860
1310But when you said marriage,
1311
1312304
131300:16:26,944 --> 00:16:29,780
1314I assumed you... you meant marriage
1315between two people.
1316
1317305
131800:16:30,531 --> 00:16:31,365
1319- Yeah.
1320- Did you?
1321
1322306
132300:16:31,448 --> 00:16:32,825
1324Well, no, mental marriage.
1325
1326307
132700:16:33,242 --> 00:16:34,952
1328- Mental marriage?
1329- Yeah.
1330
1331308
133200:16:35,411 --> 00:16:37,955
1333Ah, well, that's interesting.
1334
1335309
133600:16:41,417 --> 00:16:43,919
1337<i>♪ Some speak of the future ♪</i>
1338
1339310
134000:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,798
1341<i>♪ My love, she speaks softly ♪</i>
1342
1343311
134400:16:48,507 --> 00:16:51,844
1345<i>♪ 'Cause there's no success like failure ♪</i>
1346
1347312
134800:16:52,302 --> 00:16:55,556
1349<i>♪ And failure's no success at all ♪</i>
1350
1351313
135200:16:57,558 --> 00:16:58,600
1353Hey!
1354
1355314
135600:16:59,101 --> 00:17:01,821
1357I'm doing a... a thing on a tour
1358for <i>Rolling Stone </i>magazine.
1359
1360315
136100:17:01,854 --> 00:17:02,998
1362- Yes.
1363- Okay?
1364
1365316
136600:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,107
1367And... And basically, I saw Bob leave,
1368
1369317
137000:17:05,566 --> 00:17:09,945
1371uh, after that... uh, um, the dialogue
1372you did with him, the marriage thing.
1373
1374318
137500:17:10,029 --> 00:17:10,904
1376Yes.
1377
1378319
137900:17:10,988 --> 00:17:14,616
1380And he said to one of the cameramen,
1381"That is hot. That was a hot scene."
1382
1383320
138400:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,511
1385- Okay.
1386- Oh, I'm really flattered. I'm touched.
1387
1388321
138900:17:16,535 --> 00:17:18,871
1390Okay, now, look,
1391I... I... I just wanna know,
1392
1393322
139400:17:19,163 --> 00:17:21,182
1395how did... how did it happen?
1396I mean, was it set up?
1397
1398323
139900:17:21,206 --> 00:17:22,966
1400- It happened... No.
1401- Was it a set up scene?
1402
1403324
140400:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,376
1405It was totally spontaneous.
1406
1407325
140800:17:24,752 --> 00:17:26,545
1409I was on my way to the bathroom...
1410
1411326
141200:17:26,712 --> 00:17:27,588
1413Yeah.
1414
1415327
141600:17:27,671 --> 00:17:31,759
1417...when, uh, on my way, uh,
1418Mel Howard introduced me to Bob Dylan.
1419
1420328
142100:17:31,925 --> 00:17:34,053
1422What... What did you say?
1423And what was your point...
1424
1425329
142600:17:34,136 --> 00:17:36,072
1427- What did I say to...
1428- In the conversation to Bob?
1429
1430330
143100:17:36,096 --> 00:17:38,474
1432Well, it was a sort of free...
1433
1434331
143500:17:39,933 --> 00:17:42,037
1436- uh, going from one thing to another.
1437- Freewheeling?
1438
1439332
144000:17:42,061 --> 00:17:43,163
1441- Freewheeling.
1442- It wasn't...
1443
1444333
144500:17:43,187 --> 00:17:45,856
1446It wasn't meant to be specifically...
1447specifically that.
1448
1449334
145000:17:45,939 --> 00:17:47,699
1451Yeah, but you started talking
1452about marriage.
1453
1454335
145500:17:47,733 --> 00:17:48,901
1456Out of the blue,
1457
1458336
145900:17:48,984 --> 00:17:51,445
1460- the subject of marriage came up.
1461- But what did you say?
1462
1463337
146400:17:51,528 --> 00:17:55,115
1465<i>♪ Come gather 'round, fellers ♪</i>
1466
1467338
146800:17:55,324 --> 00:18:00,537
1469<i>♪ So young and so fine ♪</i>
1470
1471339
147200:18:01,455 --> 00:18:04,666
1473<i>♪ And seek not your fortune ♪</i>
1474
1475340
147600:18:05,501 --> 00:18:09,171
1477<i>♪ Down in the mine ♪</i>
1478
1479341
148000:18:10,422 --> 00:18:12,257
1481♪ <i>It will form... ♪</i>
1482
1483342
148400:18:12,424 --> 00:18:16,053
1485Was the idea to make
1486a behind-the-scenes film of the tour?
1487
1488343
148900:18:16,136 --> 00:18:18,136
1490I think that's
1491what they were expecting.
1492
1493344
149400:18:18,180 --> 00:18:20,891
1495They just thought that
1496I was going to make it a concert film,
1497
1498345
149900:18:20,974 --> 00:18:23,414
1500but I was trying to make something
1501really serious out of this.
1502
1503346
150400:18:23,936 --> 00:18:27,189
1505First, what I wanted to show was
1506musicians working together,
1507
1508347
150900:18:27,272 --> 00:18:28,524
1510making music together.
1511
1512348
151300:18:28,732 --> 00:18:30,234
1514That was them doing their job.
1515
1516349
151700:18:30,567 --> 00:18:31,777
1518That was, you know,
1519
1520350
152100:18:31,860 --> 00:18:34,988
1522that was as if I went to film my father
1523in his shoe store.
1524
1525351
152600:18:35,489 --> 00:18:36,489
1527Focus in on that.
1528
1529352
153000:18:37,616 --> 00:18:38,867
1531What is that, Patti?
1532
1533353
153400:18:38,951 --> 00:18:41,203
1535I seen th... this Rimbaud book,
1536
1537354
153800:18:41,453 --> 00:18:43,163
1539and I saw this picture.
1540
1541355
154200:18:43,247 --> 00:18:45,916
1543I saw this vogue picture,
1544and I thought it looked like you,
1545
1546356
154700:18:45,999 --> 00:18:48,001
1548- and I thought he was a neat guy, y'know?
1549- Yeah?
1550
1551357
155200:18:48,085 --> 00:18:51,797
1553And I thought you were neat, so I used to,
1554like, pretend he was my boyfriend.
1555
1556358
155700:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,341
1558Or if... Or if you were.
1559You know, it doesn't matter, right?
1560
1561359
156200:18:54,424 --> 00:18:55,259
1563So anyway...
1564
1565360
156600:18:55,342 --> 00:18:56,426
1567What did you say?
1568
1569361
157000:18:56,510 --> 00:18:57,761
1571- What did I say?
1572- Yeah.
1573
1574362
157500:18:57,970 --> 00:19:00,681
1576I gave my thoughts on...
1577
1578363
157900:19:00,764 --> 00:19:03,267
1580He spoke about <i>mental </i>marriage.
1581
1582364
158300:19:03,559 --> 00:19:05,036
1584- When he asked me...
1585- Mental marriage?
1586
1587365
158800:19:05,060 --> 00:19:06,979
1589Uh, Superman takes a piece of coal,
1590
1591366
159200:19:07,062 --> 00:19:09,648
1593and he puts it in his hand,
1594and he starts squeezing it,
1595
1596367
159700:19:09,731 --> 00:19:11,942
1598and squeezing it, and squeezing it,
1599and squeezing it,
1600
1601368
160200:19:12,025 --> 00:19:13,425
1603and then it becomes like a diamond.
1604
1605369
160600:19:13,485 --> 00:19:14,485
1607- It's real hard.
1608- Yeah.
1609
1610370
161100:19:14,528 --> 00:19:16,280
1612And then, like, he drops it
1613on the ground,
1614
1615371
161600:19:16,363 --> 00:19:17,674
1617- on the baseball diamond.
1618- Yeah.
1619
1620372
162100:19:17,698 --> 00:19:20,258
1622And the kids, the kids keep kicking it,
1623the kids keep kicking it.
1624
1625373
162600:19:20,284 --> 00:19:21,804
1627- Yeah.
1628- Then it goes round and round.
1629
1630374
163100:19:21,869 --> 00:19:23,909
1632And after years and years
1633of kids kicking it around,
1634
1635375
163600:19:23,954 --> 00:19:26,456
1637it gets smooth, but it's not...
1638It's just changed.
1639
1640376
164100:19:26,540 --> 00:19:29,418
1642It's still the same crystal,
1643but it's smooth, so it's a crystal ball.
1644
1645377
164600:19:29,501 --> 00:19:30,941
1647So it's sitting there in the middle,
1648
1649378
165000:19:31,003 --> 00:19:33,815
1651the crystal ball is sitting there
1652in the middle of the baseball diamond.
1653
1654379
165500:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,279
1656- Right.
1657- Okay? Now you can look in.
1658
1659380
166000:19:39,469 --> 00:19:41,889
1661I hated the <i>ristelaars...</i>
1662
1663381
166400:19:42,097 --> 00:19:44,141
1665the, you know, the... the facilitators.
1666
1667382
166800:19:44,224 --> 00:19:46,518
1669You know,
1670the... the people hanging around him.
1671
1672383
167300:19:46,727 --> 00:19:49,021
1674People pretending that they had access,
1675
1676384
167700:19:49,104 --> 00:19:50,772
1678so that they could behave badly.
1679
1680385
168100:19:51,064 --> 00:19:52,649
1682This film was going to show
1683
1684386
168500:19:52,733 --> 00:19:56,236
1686the counterpoint
1687between the... the excesses of the people
1688
1689387
169000:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,031
1691on the tour
1692and the dissolution of society.
1693
1694388
169500:19:59,281 --> 00:20:01,450
1696- Come on, everybody.
1697- Allen!
1698
1699389
170000:20:01,533 --> 00:20:03,911
1701I wanted to show
1702the land of Pet Rocks
1703
1704390
170500:20:03,994 --> 00:20:06,371
1706and Super Slurpees from 7-Eleven.
1707
1708391
170900:20:07,039 --> 00:20:08,415
1710<i>L'Amérique insolite.</i>
1711
1712392
171300:20:09,499 --> 00:20:12,836
1714I would go on the road
1715with the Rolling Thunder Revue.
1716
1717393
171800:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,379
1719Right here.
1720
1721394
172200:20:14,630 --> 00:20:17,341
1723See you Thursday.
1724
1725395
172600:20:19,301 --> 00:20:22,804
1727<i>This is a true story.
1728Actually, they're all true.</i>
1729
1730396
173100:20:23,639 --> 00:20:26,350
1732Boy. Sure hope we get to Boston on time.
1733
1734397
173500:20:43,825 --> 00:20:45,327
1736<i>♪ I married Isis ♪</i>
1737
1738398
173900:20:45,577 --> 00:20:47,079
1740<i>♪ On the fifth day of May ♪</i>
1741
1742399
174300:20:47,663 --> 00:20:49,498
1744<i>♪ But I could not hold on ♪</i>
1745
1746400
174700:20:49,957 --> 00:20:51,250
1748<i>♪ To her very long ♪</i>
1749
1750401
175100:20:51,792 --> 00:20:53,335
1752<i>♪ So I cut off my hair ♪</i>
1753
1754402
175500:20:53,835 --> 00:20:55,462
1756<i>♪ And I rode straight away ♪</i>
1757
1758403
175900:20:55,921 --> 00:20:57,756
1760<i>♪ For the wild, unknown country ♪</i>
1761
1762404
176300:20:57,839 --> 00:20:59,591
1764<i>♪ Where I could not go wrong ♪</i>
1765
1766405
176700:21:00,175 --> 00:21:01,969
1768<i>♪ I came to a high place ♪</i>
1769
1770406
177100:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,804
1772<i>♪ Of darkness and light ♪</i>
1773
1774407
177500:21:04,137 --> 00:21:06,098
1776<i>♪ The dividing line ran ♪</i>
1777
1778408
177900:21:06,181 --> 00:21:07,808
1780<i>♪ Through the center of town ♪</i>
1781
1782409
178300:21:08,308 --> 00:21:10,102
1784<i>♪ I hitched up my pony ♪</i>
1785
1786410
178700:21:10,185 --> 00:21:12,145
1788<i>♪ To a post on the right ♪</i>
1789
1790411
179100:21:12,396 --> 00:21:14,064
1792<i>♪ Went into a laundry ♪</i>
1793
1794412
179500:21:14,147 --> 00:21:16,149
1796<i>♪ To wash my clothes down ♪</i>
1797
1798413
179900:21:16,525 --> 00:21:18,193
1800<i>♪ A man in the corner ♪</i>
1801
1802414
180300:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,195
1804<i>♪ Approached me for a match ♪</i>
1805
1806415
180700:21:20,654 --> 00:21:22,322
1808<i>♪ I knew right away ♪</i>
1809
1810416
181100:21:22,406 --> 00:21:24,116
1812<i>♪ He was not ordinary ♪</i>
1813
1814417
181500:21:24,658 --> 00:21:26,118
1816<i>♪ He said, "Are you looking ♪</i>
1817
1818418
181900:21:26,410 --> 00:21:28,495
1820<i>♪ For something easy to catch?" ♪</i>
1821
1822419
182300:21:28,578 --> 00:21:30,122
1824<i>♪ I said, "I got no money, man" ♪</i>
1825
1826420
182700:21:30,205 --> 00:21:32,624
1828<i>♪ He said, "That ain't necessary" ♪</i>
1829
1830421
183100:21:49,266 --> 00:21:50,934
1832<i>♪ We set out that night ♪</i>
1833
1834422
183500:21:51,101 --> 00:21:52,853
1836<i>♪ For the cold in the north ♪</i>
1837
1838423
183900:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,105
1840<i>♪ I gave him my blanket ♪</i>
1841
1842424
184300:21:55,188 --> 00:21:56,732
1844<i>♪ And he gave me his word ♪</i>
1845
1846425
184700:21:57,357 --> 00:21:58,984
1848<i>♪ I said, "Where we goin'?" ♪</i>
1849
1850426
185100:21:59,067 --> 00:22:01,028
1852<i>♪ He said, "We be back by the fourth" ♪</i>
1853
1854427
185500:22:01,403 --> 00:22:03,196
1856<i>♪ I said, "That's the best news ♪</i>
1857
1858428
185900:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,198
1860<i>♪ That I've ever heard" ♪</i>
1861
1862429
186300:22:05,282 --> 00:22:07,200
1864<i>♪ I was thinkin' about turquoise ♪</i>
1865
1866430
186700:22:07,284 --> 00:22:09,244
1868<i>♪ I was thinkin' about gold ♪</i>
1869
1870431
187100:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,163
1872<i>♪ I was thinkin' about diamonds ♪</i>
1873
1874432
187500:22:11,246 --> 00:22:13,373
1876<i>♪ And the world's biggest necklace ♪</i>
1877
1878433
187900:22:13,457 --> 00:22:15,459
1880<i>♪ As we rode through the canyons ♪</i>
1881
1882434
188300:22:15,542 --> 00:22:17,419
1884<i>♪ Through the devilish cold ♪</i>
1885
1886435
188700:22:17,544 --> 00:22:19,254
1888<i>♪ I was thinkin' about Isis ♪</i>
1889
1890436
189100:22:19,338 --> 00:22:21,757
1892<i>♪ How she thought I was so reckless ♪</i>
1893
1894437
189500:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,385
1896<i>♪ She told me, though, that one day
1897We would meet up again ♪</i>
1898
1899438
190000:22:25,886 --> 00:22:27,763
1901<i>♪ And things would be different ♪</i>
1902
1903439
190400:22:27,888 --> 00:22:29,681
1905<i>♪ The next time we wed ♪</i>
1906
1907440
190800:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,767
1909<i>♪ If I could only just hang on ♪</i>
1910
1911441
191200:22:31,933 --> 00:22:33,685
1913<i>♪ And be her friend ♪</i>
1914
1915442
191600:22:34,144 --> 00:22:35,729
1917<i>♪ I still can't remember ♪</i>
1918
1919443
192000:22:35,812 --> 00:22:37,773
1921<i>♪ All the best things she said ♪</i>
1922
1923444
192400:22:54,414 --> 00:22:56,166
1925<i>♪ We came to the pyramids ♪</i>
1926
1927445
192800:22:56,249 --> 00:22:57,959
1929<i>♪ All embedded in ice ♪</i>
1930
1931446
193200:22:58,251 --> 00:22:59,753
1933<i>♪ He said, "There's a body ♪</i>
1934
1935447
193600:22:59,836 --> 00:23:02,005
1937<i>♪ That I'm tryin' to find ♪</i>
1938
1939448
194000:23:02,214 --> 00:23:03,882
1941<i>♪ If I carry it out ♪</i>
1942
1943449
194400:23:04,091 --> 00:23:06,093
1945<i>♪ It'll bring a good price" ♪</i>
1946
1947450
194800:23:06,426 --> 00:23:07,969
1949<i>♪ 'Twas then that I knew ♪</i>
1950
1951451
195200:23:08,095 --> 00:23:10,138
1953<i>♪ What he had on his mind ♪</i>
1954
1955452
195600:23:10,222 --> 00:23:12,182
1957<i>♪ Well, the wind, it was howlin' ♪</i>
1958
1959453
196000:23:12,265 --> 00:23:14,267
1961<i>♪ And the snow was outrageous ♪</i>
1962
1963454
196400:23:14,351 --> 00:23:16,019
1965<i>♪ We chopped through the night ♪</i>
1966
1967455
196800:23:16,269 --> 00:23:18,271
1969<i>♪ And we chopped through the dawn ♪</i>
1970
1971456
197200:23:18,355 --> 00:23:20,315
1973<i>♪ When he died, I was hopin' ♪</i>
1974
1975457
197600:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,275
1977<i>♪ That it wasn't contagious ♪</i>
1978
1979458
198000:23:22,442 --> 00:23:24,403
1981<i>♪ But I made up my mind ♪</i>
1982
1983459
198400:23:24,486 --> 00:23:26,488
1985<i>♪ That I had to get on ♪</i>
1986
1987460
198800:23:43,004 --> 00:23:44,673
1989<i>♪ I picked up his body ♪</i>
1990
1991461
199200:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,258
1993<i>♪ And I dragged him inside ♪</i>
1994
1995462
199600:23:46,716 --> 00:23:48,427
1997<i>♪ Threw him down in a hole ♪</i>
1998
1999463
200000:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,429
2001<i>♪ And I put back the cover ♪</i>
2002
2003464
200400:23:50,971 --> 00:23:52,514
2005<i>♪ I said a quick prayer ♪</i>
2006
2007465
200800:23:52,681 --> 00:23:54,558
2009<i>♪ Just to feel satisfied ♪</i>
2010
2011466
201200:23:54,850 --> 00:23:56,518
2013<i>♪ Then I went back to find Isis ♪</i>
2014
2015467
201600:23:56,601 --> 00:23:58,812
2017<i>♪ Just to tell her I love her ♪</i>
2018
2019468
202000:23:58,895 --> 00:24:00,730
2021<i>♪ She was there in the meadow ♪</i>
2022
2023469
202400:24:00,814 --> 00:24:03,191
2025<i>♪ Where the creek used to rise ♪</i>
2026
2027470
202800:24:03,275 --> 00:24:04,818
2029<i>♪ Blinded by sleep ♪</i>
2030
2031471
203200:24:04,901 --> 00:24:06,903
2033<i>♪ And in need of a bed ♪</i>
2034
2035472
203600:24:06,987 --> 00:24:08,697
2037<i>♪ I came in from the East ♪</i>
2038
2039473
204000:24:08,780 --> 00:24:10,907
2041<i>♪ With the sun in my eyes ♪</i>
2042
2043474
204400:24:11,241 --> 00:24:14,703
2045<i>♪ I cursed her one time
2046Then I rode on ahead ♪</i>
2047
2048475
204900:24:15,078 --> 00:24:16,830
2050<i>♪ She said, "Where you been?" ♪</i>
2051
2052476
205300:24:17,205 --> 00:24:19,082
2054<i>♪ I said, "No place special" ♪</i>
2055
2056477
205700:24:19,166 --> 00:24:22,544
2058<i>♪ She said, "You look different"
2059I said, "Well, I guess" ♪</i>
2060
2061478
206200:24:23,211 --> 00:24:24,671
2063<i>♪ She said, "You been gone" ♪</i>
2064
2065479
206600:24:24,754 --> 00:24:28,508
2067<i>♪ I said, "That's only natural"
2068She said, "You gonna stay?" ♪</i>
2069
2070480
207100:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,178
2072<i>♪ I said, "If you want me to, yeah!" ♪</i>
2073
2074481
207500:24:47,861 --> 00:24:49,529
2076<i>♪ Isis, oh, Isis ♪</i>
2077
2078482
207900:24:49,613 --> 00:24:51,281
2080<i>♪ You a mystical child ♪</i>
2081
2082483
208300:24:51,531 --> 00:24:53,366
2084<i>♪ What drives me to you ♪</i>
2085
2086484
208700:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,494
2088<i>♪ Is what drives me insane ♪</i>
2089
2090485
209100:24:55,952 --> 00:24:57,496
2092<i>♪ I still can remember ♪</i>
2093
2094486
209500:24:57,579 --> 00:24:59,623
2096<i>♪ The way that you smiled ♪</i>
2097
2098487
209900:24:59,706 --> 00:25:01,541
2100<i>♪ On the fifth day of May ♪</i>
2101
2102488
210300:25:01,625 --> 00:25:04,044
2104<i>♪ In the drizzlin' rain ♪</i>
2105
2106489
210700:25:35,450 --> 00:25:36,450
2108Hi, Bob.
2109
2110490
211100:25:36,493 --> 00:25:39,162
2112- Hi, what you guys want? An interview?
2113- Sure.
2114
2115491
211600:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,248
2117- Ah, wh...
2118- How was it, Bob?
2119
2120492
212100:25:41,748 --> 00:25:42,874
2122How was what?
2123
2124493
212500:25:44,334 --> 00:25:46,503
2126What did Bob say about the tour?
2127
2128494
212900:25:46,586 --> 00:25:48,773
2130I never asked him anything
2131because, you know,
2132
2133495
213400:25:48,797 --> 00:25:50,507
2135he wouldn't answer direct questions.
2136
2137496
213800:25:50,590 --> 00:25:52,425
2139Dylan, you're beautiful.
2140
2141497
214200:25:53,927 --> 00:25:56,263
2143Bob!
2144
2145498
214600:25:57,639 --> 00:25:58,890
2147A legend is in town,
2148
2149499
215000:25:58,974 --> 00:26:01,518
2151and it's not just another...
2152rock 'n' roll show.
2153
2154500
215500:26:01,601 --> 00:26:03,853
2156I mean, it's rock 'n' roll,
2157but it's a special event.
2158
2159501
216000:26:03,937 --> 00:26:05,897
2161where rock 'n' roll
2162has four or five legends,
2163
2164502
216500:26:06,314 --> 00:26:09,234
2166this is one of them, and maybe
2167the biggest one at the present time.
2168
2169503
217000:26:18,952 --> 00:26:21,705
2171Not to brag,
2172but Rolling Thunder was kinda my idea,
2173
2174504
217500:26:21,788 --> 00:26:22,622
2176you know.
2177
2178505
217900:26:22,706 --> 00:26:24,958
2180Bob had done that tour with The Band
2181a few years back,
2182
2183506
218400:26:25,041 --> 00:26:26,918
2185and that was super successful,
2186
2187507
218800:26:27,002 --> 00:26:30,297
2189and then Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
2190were filling 50,000 seats a night.
2191
2192508
219300:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,633
2194And Zeppelin was huge.
2195I mean, there was money everywhere.
2196
2197509
219800:26:33,717 --> 00:26:36,344
2199You know, all you had to do
2200was bend down, pick it up.
2201
2202510
220300:26:36,636 --> 00:26:40,682
2204So, I had an idea that some kind of revue
2205with Bob would be a gold mine.
2206
2207511
220800:26:41,266 --> 00:26:42,976
2209So I went off and pitched the idea,
2210
2211512
221200:26:43,059 --> 00:26:45,145
2213and a bunch of local promoters
2214were interested.
2215
2216513
221700:26:45,645 --> 00:26:48,440
2218And then by the time I was done,
2219I ended up with 15 headliners.
2220
2221514
222200:26:50,817 --> 00:26:53,445
2223<i>♪ I'm gonna have to go to college
2224'Cause you are... ♪</i>
2225
2226515
222700:26:53,528 --> 00:26:55,488
2228Now you've asked for it!
2229
2230516
223100:26:56,072 --> 00:26:58,199
2232We took a big risk. And, uh, you know,
2233
2234517
223500:26:58,283 --> 00:27:01,578
2236you had to put up the money,
2237get everybody, you know, hotels, catering,
2238
2239518
224000:27:01,661 --> 00:27:03,371
2241cars, all this stuff, buses.
2242
2243519
224400:27:03,913 --> 00:27:07,542
2245And you had to keep all these guys happy
2246and, you know, focused.
2247
2248520
224900:27:07,709 --> 00:27:11,004
2250And so... And that was, you loaded up
2251before you went out on the road.
2252
2253521
225400:27:11,421 --> 00:27:14,174
2255Then you hope you got paid.
2256And you hope the show worked.
2257
2258522
225900:27:15,592 --> 00:27:17,632
2260Did you have any interaction with Bob?
2261
2262523
226300:27:17,677 --> 00:27:20,096
2264The only time I saw Bob
2265was when he was onstage
2266
2267524
226800:27:20,180 --> 00:27:21,306
2269or driving the bus.
2270
2271525
227200:27:21,514 --> 00:27:23,308
2273You know? Bob kept to himself.
2274
2275526
227600:27:23,850 --> 00:27:25,852
2277How did it become
2278"Rolling Thunder Revue"?
2279
2280527
228100:27:25,935 --> 00:27:28,271
2282Well, I asked Bob.
2283He said originally he was gonna call it
2284
2285528
228600:27:28,355 --> 00:27:29,522
2287Montezuma's Revue,
2288
2289529
229000:27:29,689 --> 00:27:30,982
2291but then he said he was home,
2292
2293530
229400:27:31,107 --> 00:27:34,110
2295and he was just kind of trying to think
2296of a name for the tour,
2297
2298531
229900:27:34,194 --> 00:27:36,613
2300when all of a sudden in the sky,
2301he heard, "Boom!"
2302
2303532
230400:27:36,696 --> 00:27:38,948
2305And then, from left to right,
2306
2307533
230800:27:39,074 --> 00:27:40,075
2309punctuating the sky,
2310
2311534
231200:27:40,241 --> 00:27:41,534
2313"Boom, boom, boom, boom!"
2314
2315535
231600:27:41,993 --> 00:27:44,579
2317So he said,
2318"Hey, let's call it 'Rolling Thunder.'"
2319
2320536
232100:27:44,663 --> 00:27:45,997
2322So before we even left,
2323
2324537
232500:27:46,206 --> 00:27:48,083
2326Chesley Millikin, who was on the tour,
2327says,
2328
2329538
233000:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,519
2331"Bob, you know what 'rolling thunder'
2332means to the Indians?"
2333
2334539
233500:27:50,543 --> 00:27:53,588
2336And he goes, "What, man?"
2337And Chesley goes, "Speaking truth."
2338
2339540
234000:27:53,713 --> 00:27:56,299
2341And then Bob goes,
2342"I'm glad to hear that, man."
2343
2344541
234500:27:56,508 --> 00:27:59,260
2346Of course, later on we found out
2347that Rolling Thunder was actually
2348
2349542
235000:27:59,344 --> 00:28:02,180
2351the code name
2352for, uh, Nixon's bombing of Cambodia.
2353
2354543
235500:28:02,722 --> 00:28:06,518
2356And that Guam, the backup band,
2357was the base that, uh, they took off from.
2358
2359544
236000:28:06,601 --> 00:28:08,081
2361So, who knows what the real story is.
2362
2363545
236400:28:08,436 --> 00:28:11,564
2365This is the leaflet for a concert
2366they're having in town next week.
2367
2368546
236900:28:12,357 --> 00:28:15,276
2370Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Jack Elliott.
2371
2372547
237300:28:15,360 --> 00:28:16,903
2374Right in the Civic Center.
2375
2376548
237700:28:16,986 --> 00:28:19,186
2378You know me,
2379I'm too old for that kind of stuff.
2380
2381549
238200:28:19,239 --> 00:28:20,365
2383Oh, well.
2384
2385550
238600:28:21,616 --> 00:28:22,742
2387- Okay.
2388- So...
2389
2390551
239100:28:22,826 --> 00:28:24,577
2392when did you first hear about Bob?
2393
2394552
239500:28:25,328 --> 00:28:28,289
2396This is like a... a...
2397It sounds like a fairy tale,
2398
2399553
240000:28:28,832 --> 00:28:31,292
2401but all... a lot of the...
2402
2403554
240400:28:31,459 --> 00:28:34,671
2405It doesn't happen continuously
2406for more than a few days at a time,
2407
2408555
240900:28:34,754 --> 00:28:36,589
2410but a lot of my life,
2411
2412556
241300:28:37,424 --> 00:28:39,968
2414I feel like I really am leading
2415a charmed life,
2416
2417557
241800:28:40,051 --> 00:28:44,139
2419because miracles start happening
2420in threes or fours.
2421
2422558
242300:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,789
2424One thing I could tell you
2425about Ramblin' Jack,
2426
2427559
242800:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,436
2429he's more of a sailor than a singer.
2430
2431560
243200:28:49,936 --> 00:28:54,149
2433He can tie a bowline, a clove hitch,
2434and he could tie a rolling hitch,
2435
2436561
243700:28:54,816 --> 00:28:55,942
2438all blindfolded.
2439
2440562
244100:28:56,025 --> 00:28:58,361
2442If you're ever on a boat or sailing ship,
2443
2444563
244500:28:59,904 --> 00:29:03,616
2446you would rather have Ramblin' Jack
2447there as a sailor than a singer.
2448
2449564
245000:29:04,117 --> 00:29:07,454
2451<i>♪ Now, London is a fine town
2452For sailors ♪</i>
2453
2454565
245500:29:08,288 --> 00:29:12,167
2456<i>♪ California and back to France, so... ♪</i>
2457
2458566
245900:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,812
2460Which would you rather be,
2461the Pilgrims or the Indians?
2462
2463567
246400:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,963
2465- Pilgrims.
2466- Why the Pilgrims?
2467
2468568
246900:29:17,464 --> 00:29:18,784
2470Why do you wanna be the Pilgrims?
2471
2472569
247300:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,217
2474'Cause the Pilgrims all land
2475and they turn into wax dolls,
2476
2477570
247800:29:21,301 --> 00:29:23,595
2479and they're wax dolls
2480for the rest of the universe.
2481
2482571
248300:29:23,678 --> 00:29:24,929
2484So the Indians.
2485
2486572
248700:29:25,054 --> 00:29:28,433
2488Well, you know, the Indians, that's true...
2489Well, we're all wax dolls, so...
2490
2491573
249200:29:29,017 --> 00:29:33,396
2493The first concert will take place
2494in Plymouth...
2495
2496574
249700:29:34,189 --> 00:29:38,193
2498Uh, where the, uh, Pilgrims stepped
2499off their <i>Mayflower.</i>
2500
2501575
250200:29:38,693 --> 00:29:40,570
2503We're... as if we're... we're Pilgrims.
2504
2505576
250600:29:40,862 --> 00:29:42,697
2507Pilgrims in the sense of searchers,
2508
2509577
251000:29:43,239 --> 00:29:45,241
2511looking for the, uh, kingdom of a nation
2512
2513578
251400:29:45,992 --> 00:29:47,744
2515with maybe a different intention.
2516
2517579
251800:29:48,244 --> 00:29:49,871
2519Making America a kingdom of poetry,
2520
2521580
252200:29:49,954 --> 00:29:51,080
2523a nation of poetry.
2524
2525581
252600:30:05,136 --> 00:30:07,138
2527Well, look at this. Lookit.
2528
2529582
253000:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,108
2531Have you ever heard of Bob Dylan?
2532
2533583
253400:30:09,140 --> 00:30:11,518
2535- Yeah.
2536- Yeah, I've heard of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez,
2537
2538584
253900:30:11,601 --> 00:30:12,601
2540Bob Neuwirth.
2541
2542585
254300:30:13,311 --> 00:30:16,731
2544...performing
2545at Memorial Auditorium. Anybody?
2546
2547586
254800:30:17,607 --> 00:30:18,691
2549Pass 'em out.
2550
2551587
255200:30:19,567 --> 00:30:21,736
2553<i>♪ I left Rome ♪</i>
2554
2555588
255600:30:23,488 --> 00:30:25,698
2557<i>♪ And pulled into Brussels ♪</i>
2558
2559589
256000:30:27,617 --> 00:30:29,285
2561<i>♪ On a plane ride ♪</i>
2562
2563590
256400:30:29,536 --> 00:30:32,455
2565<i>♪ So bumpy that I almost cried ♪</i>
2566
2567591
256800:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,544
2569<i>♪ Clergymen in uniform ♪</i>
2570
2571592
257200:30:37,627 --> 00:30:40,380
2573<i>♪ Young girls pullin' muscles ♪</i>
2574
2575593
257600:30:41,881 --> 00:30:44,175
2577<i>♪ Well, it sure has been ♪</i>
2578
2579594
258000:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,136
2581<i>♪ One hell of a ride ♪</i>
2582
2583595
258400:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,558
2585<i>♪ Newspapermen ♪</i>
2586
2587596
258800:30:52,433 --> 00:30:55,270
2589<i>♪ Eating candy, ooh ♪</i>
2590
2591597
259200:30:56,646 --> 00:30:58,940
2593<i>♪ They had to be held back ♪</i>
2594
2595598
259600:30:59,315 --> 00:31:01,359
2597<i>♪ By big police ♪</i>
2598
2599599
260000:31:03,987 --> 00:31:08,783
2601<i>♪ Someday
2602Everything is gonna be different ♪</i>
2603
2604600
260500:31:10,410 --> 00:31:16,833
2606<i>♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪</i>
2607
2608601
260900:31:18,334 --> 00:31:19,544
2610<i>♪ Train wrecks ♪</i>
2611
2612602
261300:31:19,961 --> 00:31:23,339
2614<i>♪ Running through the back of my memory ♪</i>
2615
2616603
261700:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,176
2618<i>♪ When I ran on the hilltop ♪</i>
2619
2620604
262100:31:27,260 --> 00:31:29,971
2622<i>♪ Following a pack of wild geese ♪</i>
2623
2624605
262500:31:32,557 --> 00:31:37,562
2626<i>♪ Someday
2627Everything is gonna be beautiful ♪</i>
2628
2629606
263000:31:38,938 --> 00:31:45,069
2631<i>♪ When I paint that masterpiece ♪</i>
2632
2633607
263400:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,615
2635<i>♪ When I paint ♪</i>
2636
2637608
263800:31:49,240 --> 00:31:56,122
2639<i>♪ That masterpiece ♪</i>
2640
2641609
264200:32:04,088 --> 00:32:06,132
2643Any idea why he would wear a mask?
2644
2645610
264600:32:06,215 --> 00:32:09,469
2647Are you being funny?
2648
2649611
265000:32:09,552 --> 00:32:11,363
2651Well, it was kind of a leading question.
2652
2653612
265400:32:11,387 --> 00:32:13,765
2655Yeah, okay.
2656Well, get to the point.
2657
2658613
265900:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,518
2660We didn't have enough masks on that tour.
2661
2662614
266300:32:19,354 --> 00:32:21,356
2664We should have had masks for everybody.
2665
2666615
266700:32:21,773 --> 00:32:23,483
2668When somebody's wearing a mask,
2669
2670616
267100:32:23,608 --> 00:32:25,610
2672uh, he's gonna tell you the truth.
2673
2674617
267500:32:26,402 --> 00:32:27,402
2676Uh...
2677
2678618
267900:32:27,612 --> 00:32:30,406
2680when he's not wearing a mask,
2681it's highly unlikely.
2682
2683619
268400:32:30,823 --> 00:32:33,242
2685<i>Shocking Blue!</i>
2686
2687620
268800:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,125
2689<i>♪ Her weapons were her crystal eyes ♪</i>
2690
2691621
269200:32:42,210 --> 00:32:44,420
2693<i>♪ Making every man mad ♪</i>
2694
2695622
269600:32:45,838 --> 00:32:48,091
2697I'd been filming Shocking Blue.
2698
2699623
270000:32:48,424 --> 00:32:50,927
2701Their song "Venus" was
2702at the top of the charts.
2703
2704624
270500:32:51,427 --> 00:32:53,471
2706- Wow!
2707- And we needed more footage.
2708
2709625
271000:32:53,846 --> 00:32:55,932
2711And at the time, I liked psychedelics.
2712
2713626
271400:32:56,432 --> 00:32:58,977
2715Oh, LSD was my drug of choice.
2716
2717627
271800:32:59,310 --> 00:33:01,729
2719You know, it was trans... transformative.
2720
2721628
272200:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,067
2723And I filmed a lot of newspeople
2724and things from the TV,
2725
2726629
272700:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,070
2728like camera right on the TV,
2729like kinescoped,
2730
2731630
273200:33:09,153 --> 00:33:12,407
2733and I cut these serious things,
2734these speeches, with the rock 'n' roll.
2735
2736631
273700:33:12,615 --> 00:33:15,076
2738<i>♪ A goddess on a mountaintop ♪</i>
2739
2740632
274100:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,746
2742<i>♪ Was burning like a silver flame ♪</i>
2743
2744633
274500:33:19,622 --> 00:33:21,374
2746<i>♪ Well, I'm your Venus ♪</i>
2747
2748634
274900:33:21,833 --> 00:33:26,421
2750<i>- ♪ I'm your fire at your desire ♪
2751- </i>It was<i> brood en spelen, </i>uh...
2752
2753635
275400:33:26,504 --> 00:33:28,506
2755You know, like, "bread and circus."
2756
2757636
275800:33:29,340 --> 00:33:31,676
2759I made an indictment of popular culture.
2760
2761637
276200:33:32,260 --> 00:33:35,138
2763I called it "Burning Like A Silver Flame."
2764
2765638
276600:33:35,930 --> 00:33:38,057
2767It played the local art film circuit,
2768
2769639
277000:33:38,516 --> 00:33:41,394
2771uh, and it started to have
2772a life of its own.
2773
2774640
277500:33:41,644 --> 00:33:44,522
2776Um, later, when I won
2777the Heinrich Greif Award,
2778
2779641
278000:33:44,605 --> 00:33:45,982
2781America came calling.
2782
2783642
278400:34:05,334 --> 00:34:06,377
2785Van Dorp,
2786
2787643
278800:34:06,753 --> 00:34:08,504
2789I hadn't even heard of him before,
2790
2791644
279200:34:09,422 --> 00:34:11,382
2793but, uh, he seemed like an okay guy.
2794
2795645
279600:34:11,549 --> 00:34:12,925
2797I liked his film history.
2798
2799646
280000:34:13,342 --> 00:34:17,597
2801He did some film work
2802at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
2803
2804647
280500:34:18,514 --> 00:34:21,517
2806His idea was to, uh, make this film...
2807
2808648
280900:34:22,226 --> 00:34:26,230
2810appear to be like old newsreels
2811we used to see at movie theaters...
2812
2813649
281400:34:26,898 --> 00:34:27,898
2815growing up,
2816
2817650
281800:34:28,691 --> 00:34:30,610
2819which I thought was a splendid idea.
2820
2821651
282200:34:32,028 --> 00:34:35,198
2823Van Dorp, I wanted to tell you something.
2824
2825652
282600:34:37,158 --> 00:34:41,954
2827I thought Sam would be perfect
2828for van Dorp to, uh, collaborate with,
2829
2830653
283100:34:42,538 --> 00:34:46,501
2832because Sam's got
2833that special knowledge of the underworld
2834
2835654
283600:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,379
2837that van Dorp didn't seem
2838to have a clue about.
2839
2840655
284100:34:51,798 --> 00:34:54,509
2842I think I asked him once,
2843"Sam, how you write all those plays?"
2844
2845656
284600:34:54,592 --> 00:34:55,592
2847And he said...
2848
2849657
285000:34:56,385 --> 00:34:57,553
2851"Man," he said,
2852
2853658
285400:34:59,222 --> 00:35:01,057
2855"it's like I commune with the dead."
2856
2857659
285800:35:02,975 --> 00:35:04,268
2859I said, "Yeah, yeah,
2860
2861660
286200:35:04,811 --> 00:35:08,231
2863uh, you'd have to
2864to write plays like that."
2865
2866661
286700:35:08,773 --> 00:35:11,651
2868And I asked him if he wanted to, uh,
2869write for, uh,
2870
2871662
287200:35:12,485 --> 00:35:15,029
2873this movie
2874that this guy van Dorp was making.
2875
2876663
287700:35:15,321 --> 00:35:20,576
2878And he went to meet with van Dorp,
2879and then he came back, and he said, uh...
2880
2881664
288200:35:20,952 --> 00:35:22,787
2883he didn't know where the guy
2884was coming from,
2885
2886665
288700:35:22,870 --> 00:35:25,081
2888but if I wanted him to do it, he would.
2889
2890666
289100:35:25,164 --> 00:35:27,583
2892So, that's how Sam got involved.
2893
2894667
289500:35:28,167 --> 00:35:30,419
2896I was living
2897in Homestead Valley, California,
2898
2899668
290000:35:31,045 --> 00:35:35,758
2901running a horse boarding farm.
2902
2903669
290400:35:36,801 --> 00:35:40,888
2905It was a little bit unclear
2906what... what exactly he wanted me to do.
2907
2908670
290900:35:40,972 --> 00:35:44,100
2910I was like a screenwriter
2911or writer for hire, you know.
2912
2913671
291400:35:44,183 --> 00:35:46,561
2915So, sure. So, I joined up.
2916
2917672
291800:35:47,353 --> 00:35:50,898
2919I was just kind of there for the ride,
2920basically,
2921
2922673
292300:35:50,982 --> 00:35:52,859
2924and... and as an observer
2925
2926674
292700:35:52,942 --> 00:35:57,238
2928and trying to make sense of something,
2929you know.
2930
2931675
293200:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,704
2933New England was just
2934experiencing the backbone
2935
2936676
293700:36:04,787 --> 00:36:06,789
2938of that economic fallout,
2939
2940677
294100:36:06,873 --> 00:36:10,376
2942you know, way back then,
2943it was, you know, desolate...
2944
2945678
294600:36:10,668 --> 00:36:13,838
2947Uh, really,
2948really difficult economic times, you know.
2949
2950679
295100:36:13,921 --> 00:36:17,341
2952People suffering behind that, you know.
2953
2954680
295500:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,179
2956Rock 'n' roll was some kind of, a...
2957
2958681
295900:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,181
2960I don't know, a kind of medicine
2961or something.
2962
2963682
296400:36:23,264 --> 00:36:25,104
2965Do you have tickets
2966for the concert?
2967
2968683
296900:36:25,141 --> 00:36:27,185
2970- Yeah.
2971- How come he's coming here?
2972
2973684
297400:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,896
2975I know, how come he picked
2976such a small place?
2977
2978685
297900:36:29,979 --> 00:36:32,773
2980Tickets are on sale at the collis...
2981the little Plymouth auditorium.
2982
2983686
298400:36:35,401 --> 00:36:37,801
2985Wasn't that the year
2986of the bicentennial, also?
2987
2988687
298900:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,697
2990The bicentennial,
2991
2992688
299300:36:39,822 --> 00:36:41,502
2994particularly in the little towns,
2995you know,
2996
2997689
299800:36:41,574 --> 00:36:43,034
2999they didn't give a shit, you know.
3000
3001690
300200:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,453
3003"What is the bicen..."
3004You know what I mean?
3005
3006691
300700:36:45,536 --> 00:36:49,123
3008They... They certainly weren't celebrating
3009the... the birth of America. You know?
3010
3011692
301200:36:49,457 --> 00:36:52,043
3013- We love you, Bobby!
3014- Yeah!
3015
3016693
301700:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,424
3018<i>♪ How many roads must a man walk down</i> ♪
3019
3020694
302100:36:59,717 --> 00:37:02,470
3022<i>♪ Before you call him a man? ♪</i>
3023
3024695
302500:37:04,055 --> 00:37:07,850
3026<i>♪ How many seas must a white dove sail ♪</i>
3027
3028696
302900:37:08,768 --> 00:37:11,854
3030<i>♪ Before she sleeps in the sand? ♪</i>
3031
3032697
303300:37:13,481 --> 00:37:17,485
3034<i>♪ How many times
3035Must the cannonballs fly ♪</i>
3036
3037698
303800:37:18,110 --> 00:37:20,947
3039<i>♪ Before they're forever banned? ♪</i>
3040
3041699
304200:37:22,365 --> 00:37:24,492
3043<i>♪ The answer, my friend ♪</i>
3044
3045700
304600:37:24,575 --> 00:37:26,702
3047<i>♪ Is blowin' in the wind ♪</i>
3048
3049701
305000:37:26,953 --> 00:37:30,164
3051<i>♪ The answer is blowin' in the wind ♪</i>
3052
3053702
305400:37:33,042 --> 00:37:38,130
3055It always had this feeling of...
3056of almost a circus atmosphere,
3057
3058703
305900:37:38,547 --> 00:37:40,049
3060a dog and pony show sort of thing.
3061
3062704
306300:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,885
3064It's the first song
3065I ever heard Woody Guthrie sing
3066
3067705
306800:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,470
3069on a little radio station.
3070
3071706
307200:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,056
3073He was telling a story...
3074
3075707
307600:37:49,267 --> 00:37:52,436
3077about traveling across the country
3078on freight trains,
3079
3080708
308100:37:52,812 --> 00:37:54,480
3082and he had a fiddle with him...
3083
3084709
308500:37:56,399 --> 00:37:58,317
3086in a violin case.
3087
3088710
308900:37:59,819 --> 00:38:01,654
3090Every time the train would stop,
3091
3092711
309300:38:02,738 --> 00:38:06,784
3094police would come on and look through,
3095they'd see him with that violin case...
3096
3097712
309800:38:09,412 --> 00:38:10,538
3099make him open it up,
3100
3101713
310200:38:12,248 --> 00:38:13,374
3103and look inside.
3104
3105714
310600:38:14,208 --> 00:38:15,960
3107They was looking for an outlaw...
3108
3109715
311000:38:17,044 --> 00:38:18,754
3111named Pretty Boy Floyd,
3112
3113716
311400:38:19,505 --> 00:38:23,050
3115who was also traveling with a violin case.
3116
3117717
311800:38:29,056 --> 00:38:35,771
3119<i>♪ If you'll gather 'round me, children ♪</i>
3120
3121718
312200:38:38,065 --> 00:38:43,529
3123<i>♪ A story I will tell
3124About Pretty Boy Floyd, an outlaw ♪</i>
3125
3126719
312700:38:46,032 --> 00:38:48,617
3128<i>♪ Oklahoma knew him well ♪</i>
3129
3130720
313100:38:51,037 --> 00:38:53,456
3132I do recall sort of looking over,
3133
3134721
313500:38:53,539 --> 00:38:57,168
3136from a distance, Jack Elliott's shoulder
3137as he did his solo set.
3138
3139722
314000:38:58,210 --> 00:39:00,379
3141You know, that was something
3142so new to me, and...
3143
3144723
314500:39:01,589 --> 00:39:02,757
3146gee, it seemed so authentic,
3147
3148724
314900:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,511
3150I had no idea he was, you know,
3151a Jewish dentist's son from Brooklyn.
3152
3153725
315400:39:07,845 --> 00:39:10,845
3155You know, you could've knocked me over
3156with a feather when I found that out.
3157
3158726
315900:39:10,931 --> 00:39:13,142
3160Ramblin' Jack!
3161Take a bow, Jack.
3162
3163727
316400:39:16,103 --> 00:39:18,143
3165I got another friend
3166for you to meet now.
3167
3168728
316900:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,536
3170They... They had an entity
3171about them, you know.
3172
3173729
317400:39:32,912 --> 00:39:34,497
3175It wasn't stardom.
3176
3177730
317800:39:34,580 --> 00:39:35,915
3179It wasn't people were looking at,
3180
3181731
318200:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,792
3183"Oh, there's Dylan and there's Joan Baez."
3184
3185732
318600:39:37,875 --> 00:39:39,585
3187No, they were looking at a band.
3188
3189733
319000:39:40,086 --> 00:39:42,171
3191<i>♪ Well, I ride on a mailtrain, baby ♪</i>
3192
3193734
319400:39:43,047 --> 00:39:45,299
3195<i>♪ Can't buy a thrill ♪</i>
3196
3197735
319800:39:48,511 --> 00:39:50,805
3199<i>♪ I been up all night, baby ♪</i>
3200
3201736
320200:39:51,013 --> 00:39:53,557
3203<i>♪ Leanin' on a windowsill ♪</i>
3204
3205737
320600:39:56,977 --> 00:39:59,623
3207Once again, good night
3208on behalf of the Rolling Thunder Revue.
3209
3210738
321100:39:59,647 --> 00:40:01,899
3212We thank you for coming. Good night.
3213Go in peace.
3214
3215739
321600:40:27,133 --> 00:40:28,884
3217And particularly
3218with those songs
3219
3220740
322100:40:28,968 --> 00:40:32,847
3222that had this kind of saga element
3223about 'em, you know,
3224
3225741
322600:40:32,930 --> 00:40:37,101
3227it had a rejuvenating effect, I think,
3228you know, it was very exhilarating.
3229
3230742
323100:40:37,268 --> 00:40:42,773
3232It was a feeling of exhilaration,
3233of... of... of being alive.
3234
3235743
323600:40:43,107 --> 00:40:45,943
3237It... That sounds corny, but it's true,
3238you know.
3239
3240744
324100:40:47,278 --> 00:40:48,821
3242Take, uh, Shakespeare, Will.
3243
3244745
324500:40:48,904 --> 00:40:52,158
3246He grew up
3247in, uh, uh, Stratford-on-Avon,
3248
3249746
325000:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,702
3251you know, where the...
3252where these rivers cross,
3253
3254747
325500:40:54,785 --> 00:40:57,872
3256and it was on the way outskirts of London.
3257
3258748
325900:40:58,330 --> 00:41:01,208
3260And these troubadours and vagabonds
3261
3262749
326300:41:01,292 --> 00:41:07,131
3264and carnival people from all over
3265were coming into London to perform.
3266
3267750
326800:41:07,506 --> 00:41:10,426
3269And they would stop at this crossroads
3270of these rivers.
3271
3272751
327300:41:10,509 --> 00:41:15,139
3274And as a kid, he's seeing this,
3275and then he writes those fucking plays.
3276
3277752
327800:41:15,473 --> 00:41:17,183
3279You know?
3280
3281753
328200:41:18,517 --> 00:41:20,436
3283That's... extraordinary.
3284
3285754
328600:41:20,728 --> 00:41:23,564
3287You know,
3288that somebody is charged up like that
3289
3290755
329100:41:23,647 --> 00:41:26,692
3292from something passing
3293through their lives, you know.
3294
3295756
329600:41:26,942 --> 00:41:29,445
3297- Let me ask you a question.
3298- Sure.
3299
3300757
330100:41:30,488 --> 00:41:32,865
3302What were you gonna do on Halloween night?
3303
3304758
330500:41:33,032 --> 00:41:35,117
3306What was I gonna do on Halloween night?
3307
3308759
330900:41:35,868 --> 00:41:37,328
3310Just get a buzz on.
3311
3312760
331300:41:39,413 --> 00:41:40,664
3314Nothing else to do.
3315
3316761
331700:41:41,499 --> 00:41:43,250
3318Yep, just party.
3319
3320762
332100:41:47,796 --> 00:41:50,841
3322♪ <i>Where have you been
3323My blue-eyed son? ♪</i>
3324
3325763
332600:41:51,550 --> 00:41:54,929
3327<i>♪ Where have you been
3328My darling young one? ♪</i>
3329
3330764
333100:41:57,598 --> 00:42:01,185
3332<i>♪ I've stumbled on the side
3333Of twelve misty mountains ♪</i>
3334
3335765
333600:42:01,685 --> 00:42:05,397
3337<i>♪ Walked and I've crawled
3338On six crooked highways ♪</i>
3339
3340766
334100:42:05,481 --> 00:42:08,484
3342<i>♪ Been in the middle
3343Of seven sad forests ♪</i>
3344
3345767
334600:42:09,068 --> 00:42:12,279
3347<i>♪ Been out in front
3348Of a dozen dead oceans ♪</i>
3349
3350768
335100:42:12,363 --> 00:42:15,449
3352<i>♪ Been ten thousand miles
3353In the mouth of a graveyard ♪</i>
3354
3355769
335600:42:15,533 --> 00:42:16,617
3357<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3358
3359770
336000:42:17,368 --> 00:42:18,911
3361<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3362
3363771
336400:42:18,994 --> 00:42:20,454
3365<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3366
3367772
336800:42:21,121 --> 00:42:22,456
3369<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3370
3371773
337200:42:22,873 --> 00:42:25,876
3373<i>♪ Well, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪</i>
3374
3375774
337600:42:29,213 --> 00:42:32,424
3377<i>♪ What did you see
3378My blue-eyed son? ♪</i>
3379
3380775
338100:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,637
3382<i>♪ What did you see
3383My darling young one? ♪</i>
3384
3385776
338600:42:38,722 --> 00:42:41,934
3387<i>♪ Saw a newborn baby
3388With wild wolves all around it ♪</i>
3389
3390777
339100:42:42,393 --> 00:42:45,604
3392<i>♪ I saw a highway of diamonds
3393With nobody on it ♪</i>
3394
3395778
339600:42:46,063 --> 00:42:49,233
3397<i>♪ Saw a black branch
3398With blood that kept drippin' ♪</i>
3399
3400779
340100:42:49,650 --> 00:42:52,820
3402<i>♪ Saw a room full of men
3403With their hammers bleedin' ♪</i>
3404
3405780
340600:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,365
3407<i>♪ Saw a white ladder
3408Covered in water ♪</i>
3409
3410781
341100:42:56,699 --> 00:43:00,202
3412<i>♪ Saw ten thousand talkers
3413Whose tongues are all broken ♪</i>
3414
3415782
341600:43:00,619 --> 00:43:03,581
3417<i>♪ Guns and sharp swords
3418In the hands of young children ♪</i>
3419
3420783
342100:43:03,664 --> 00:43:04,873
3422<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3423
3424784
342500:43:05,541 --> 00:43:06,834
3426<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3427
3428785
342900:43:07,376 --> 00:43:08,669
3430<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3431
3432786
343300:43:09,253 --> 00:43:10,629
3434<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3435
3436787
343700:43:10,963 --> 00:43:13,924
3438<i>♪ Oh, it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪</i>
3439
3440788
344100:43:17,303 --> 00:43:20,180
3442<i>♪ What did you hear
3443My blue-eyed son? ♪</i>
3444
3445789
344600:43:20,889 --> 00:43:24,310
3447<i>♪ What did you hear
3448My darling young one? ♪</i>
3449
3450790
345100:43:26,770 --> 00:43:29,982
3452<i>♪ Heard the sound of a thunder
3453That roared out a warnin' ♪</i>
3454
3455791
345600:43:30,399 --> 00:43:33,819
3457<i>♪ Heard the roar of a wave
3458Could drown the whole world ♪</i>
3459
3460792
346100:43:34,278 --> 00:43:37,448
3462<i>♪ One person starved
3463I heard many people laughin' ♪</i>
3464
3465793
346600:43:37,781 --> 00:43:41,076
3467<i>♪ Heard the song of a poet
3468Who died in the gutter ♪</i>
3469
3470794
347100:43:41,327 --> 00:43:44,538
3472<i>♪ Heard the sound of a clown
3473Crying in the alley ♪</i>
3474
3475795
347600:43:44,622 --> 00:43:46,165
3477<i>- ♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3478- Yeah!
3479
3480796
348100:43:46,248 --> 00:43:47,708
3482<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3483
3484797
348500:43:48,083 --> 00:43:49,585
3486<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3487
3488798
348900:43:49,918 --> 00:43:51,295
3490<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3491
3492799
349300:43:51,670 --> 00:43:54,798
3494<i>♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪</i>
3495
3496800
349700:43:57,801 --> 00:44:00,888
3498<i>♪ Who did you meet
3499My blue-eyed son? ♪</i>
3500
3501801
350200:44:01,472 --> 00:44:06,060
3503<i>♪ Who did you meet
3504My darling young one? ♪</i>
3505
3506802
350700:44:07,603 --> 00:44:10,439
3508<i>♪ Met a young child
3509Beside a dead pony ♪</i>
3510
3511803
351200:44:10,981 --> 00:44:14,109
3513<i>♪ Met a white man
3514Who walked a black dog ♪</i>
3515
3516804
351700:44:14,568 --> 00:44:17,613
3518<i>♪ Met one woman
3519Whose body was burning ♪</i>
3520
3521805
352200:44:17,988 --> 00:44:21,241
3523<i>♪ Met a young girl
3524She gave me a rainbow ♪</i>
3525
3526806
352700:44:21,450 --> 00:44:24,995
3528<i>♪ I met one man
3529Wounded in love ♪</i>
3530
3531807
353200:44:25,162 --> 00:44:28,123
3533<i>♪ Met another man
3534Wounded in hatred ♪</i>
3535
3536808
353700:44:28,207 --> 00:44:29,416
3538<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3539
3540809
354100:44:29,875 --> 00:44:31,251
3542<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3543
3544810
354500:44:31,669 --> 00:44:33,170
3546<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3547
3548811
354900:44:33,420 --> 00:44:34,963
3550<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3551
3552812
355300:44:35,255 --> 00:44:38,217
3554<i>♪ And it's a hard rain gonna fall ♪</i>
3555
3556813
355700:45:09,873 --> 00:45:12,835
3558<i>♪ What'll you do now
3559My blue-eyed son? ♪</i>
3560
3561814
356200:45:13,419 --> 00:45:17,047
3563<i>♪ What'll you do now
3564My darling young one? ♪</i>
3565
3566815
356700:45:19,174 --> 00:45:22,428
3568<i>♪ I'm goin' back out
3569When the rain starts a-fallin' ♪</i>
3570
3571816
357200:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,889
3573<i>♪ Walk to the depths
3574Of the deepest dark forest ♪</i>
3575
3576817
357700:45:26,140 --> 00:45:29,393
3578<i>♪ Where the people are many
3579And their hands are all empty ♪</i>
3580
3581818
358200:45:29,643 --> 00:45:33,105
3583<i>♪ Where the pellets of poison
3584Are flooding their waters ♪</i>
3585
3586819
358700:45:33,188 --> 00:45:36,525
3588<i>♪ Where the home in the valley
3589Meets the damp, dirty prison ♪</i>
3590
3591820
359200:45:36,608 --> 00:45:40,028
3593<i>♪ Where the executioner's face
3594Is always well-hidden ♪</i>
3595
3596821
359700:45:40,112 --> 00:45:43,699
3598<i>♪ Where the hunger is ugly
3599Where souls are forgotten ♪</i>
3600
3601822
360200:45:43,782 --> 00:45:47,077
3603<i>♪ Where black is the color
3604None is the number ♪</i>
3605
3606823
360700:45:47,369 --> 00:45:50,706
3608<i>♪ And I'll tell it and think it
3609And speak it and breathe it ♪</i>
3610
3611824
361200:45:50,956 --> 00:45:54,460
3613<i>♪ Reflect from the mountain
3614So all souls can see it ♪</i>
3615
3616825
361700:45:54,543 --> 00:45:57,629
3618<i>♪ Then I'll stand on the ocean
3619Until I start sinkin' ♪</i>
3620
3621826
362200:45:57,838 --> 00:46:01,049
3623<i>♪ But I'll know my song well
3624Before I start singin' ♪</i>
3625
3626827
362700:46:01,133 --> 00:46:02,176
3628<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3629
3630828
363100:46:02,676 --> 00:46:04,261
3632<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3633
3634829
363500:46:04,470 --> 00:46:05,971
3636<i>♪ Well, it's a hard ♪</i>
3637
3638830
363900:46:06,305 --> 00:46:07,723
3640<i>♪ And it's a hard ♪</i>
3641
3642831
364300:46:08,015 --> 00:46:10,559
3644<i>♪ It's a hard rain gonna fall ♪</i>
3645
3646832
364700:46:49,598 --> 00:46:51,158
3648<i>- Hello?</i>
3649- Bob?
3650
3651833
365200:46:51,183 --> 00:46:52,368
3653- <i>Yeah.</i>
3654- This is Larry.
3655
3656834
365700:46:52,392 --> 00:46:54,520
3658- <i>Larry, how you doing?</i>
3659- You got a minute?
3660
3661835
366200:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,605
3663I gotta do a story in an hour,
3664
3665836
366600:46:56,688 --> 00:46:59,107
3667and I just need
3668about two or three paragraphs.
3669
3670837
367100:47:00,108 --> 00:47:01,276
3672- <i>Okay.</i>
3673- Are you up?
3674
3675838
367600:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,611
3677<i>Yeah, sort of.</i>
3678
3679839
368000:47:08,075 --> 00:47:10,762
3681What do you... Why don't you
3682just talk about the music, okay?
3683
3684840
368500:47:10,786 --> 00:47:12,026
3686<i>What do you wanna know?</i>
3687
3688841
368900:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,199
3690I've never seen you
3691so fuckin' great onstage.
3692
3693842
369400:47:14,248 --> 00:47:16,542
3695I've never seen you so loose. How come?
3696
3697843
369800:47:17,543 --> 00:47:20,743
3699<i>Jesus Christ, you really got me
3700early in the morning, I can't even think.</i>
3701
3702844
370300:47:20,796 --> 00:47:22,464
3704<i>Uh...</i>
3705
3706845
370700:47:22,756 --> 00:47:25,634
3708<i>Well, it's just the element
3709I work best in, you know?</i>
3710
3711846
371200:47:25,884 --> 00:47:27,344
3713<i>You seen those Italian...</i>
3714
3715847
371600:47:27,427 --> 00:47:29,555
3717<i>those Italian troupes
3718that go around in Italy,</i>
3719
3720848
372100:47:29,638 --> 00:47:31,616
3722<i>- those Italian street theaters...</i>
3723- Yeah.
3724
3725849
372600:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,142
3727<i>The wagon, the wagon troupes,
3728Commedia dell'arte?</i>
3729
3730850
373100:47:34,226 --> 00:47:35,269
3732Yeah, right.
3733
3734851
373500:47:35,352 --> 00:47:37,813
3736<i>This is kind of an extension
3737of that, only musically.</i>
3738
3739852
374000:47:37,896 --> 00:47:39,916
3741- Music Commedia dell'arte?
3742<i>- Yeah.</i>
3743
3744853
374500:47:39,940 --> 00:47:40,816
3746Come on, Red!
3747
3748854
374900:47:40,941 --> 00:47:42,067
3750Riva!
3751
3752855
375300:47:42,150 --> 00:47:43,610
3754- Jane!
3755- Jane!
3756
3757856
375800:47:44,194 --> 00:47:45,487
3759Get it, Merty!
3760
3761857
376200:47:45,737 --> 00:47:48,174
3763If somebody told you Bob Dylan
3764was coming to Providence,
3765
3766858
376700:47:48,198 --> 00:47:51,034
3768you probably wouldn't believe them,
3769but he is, along with Joan Baez,
3770
3771859
377200:47:51,118 --> 00:47:53,203
3773Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Bob Neuwirth,
3774
3775860
377600:47:53,745 --> 00:47:58,083
3777and it's called the Rolling Thunder Revue
3778at the Providence Civic Center, Tuesday...
3779
3780861
378100:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,002
3782You'd book the venues,
3783
3784862
378500:48:00,085 --> 00:48:02,421
3786make deals with each
3787of the local promoters,
3788
3789863
379000:48:02,713 --> 00:48:04,464
3791and then you'd show up.
3792
3793864
379400:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,092
3795And, you know,
3796you'd have a deal for the gate.
3797
3798865
379900:48:07,175 --> 00:48:08,427
3800And, you know,
3801
3802866
380300:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,512
3804hopefully everything would go out,
3805would go well,
3806
3807867
380800:48:10,596 --> 00:48:12,036
3809and everybody'd make a little money.
3810
3811868
381200:48:12,097 --> 00:48:14,308
3813Hey, man, it wasn't your door
3814and you weren't invited.
3815
3816869
381700:48:14,391 --> 00:48:17,102
3818- Hey, don't yell at me, all right?
3819- Oh, I am yelling at ya.
3820
3821870
382200:48:17,185 --> 00:48:18,979
3823- Okay.
3824- Go get your cop,
3825
3826871
382700:48:19,062 --> 00:48:20,707
3828- so you can get some fuckin' help.
3829- Okay.
3830
3831872
383200:48:20,731 --> 00:48:23,483
3833The overall promoter
3834was a longtime friend of Bob's
3835
3836873
383700:48:23,567 --> 00:48:24,484
3838and a fishmonger.
3839
3840874
384100:48:24,568 --> 00:48:26,486
3842I mean, he never had managed
3843a tour before,
3844
3845875
384600:48:26,570 --> 00:48:27,821
3847let alone one of this size.
3848
3849876
385000:48:28,363 --> 00:48:30,324
3851It's bad for your, uh,
3852high blood pressure.
3853
3854877
385500:48:30,407 --> 00:48:32,492
3856- Yeah, okay.
3857- Bad for your high blood pressure.
3858
3859878
386000:48:32,576 --> 00:48:34,762
3861- Read him some poetry, Allen.
3862- Anything you wanna say...
3863
3864879
386500:48:34,786 --> 00:48:36,830
3866So he was out of his element
3867and underprepared,
3868
3869880
387000:48:36,914 --> 00:48:38,594
3871and he wasn't very well-liked on the tour.
3872
3873881
387400:48:38,874 --> 00:48:42,127
3875Then tell him the ushers left.
3876Tell him... Tell him we're framingit.
3877
3878882
387900:48:42,419 --> 00:48:43,921
3880- Hi, Barry.
3881- Nice.
3882
3883883
388400:48:45,631 --> 00:48:48,300
3885This guy, Barry Imhoff,
3886was his second-in-command,
3887
3888884
388900:48:48,383 --> 00:48:50,093
3890and he'd worked for Bill Graham for years,
3891
3892885
389300:48:50,177 --> 00:48:52,095
3894but just prior to Rolling Thunder
3895
3896886
389700:48:52,179 --> 00:48:54,598
3898had got out on his own
3899and started Zebra Productions.
3900
3901887
390200:48:54,681 --> 00:48:58,268
3903And this was one of, you know,
3904if not exactly, his first tour.
3905
3906888
390700:48:58,352 --> 00:49:00,455
3908What kind of jobs
3909would the promoter do?
3910
3911889
391200:49:00,479 --> 00:49:02,773
3913I did whatever needed to get done.
3914
3915890
391600:49:03,023 --> 00:49:05,525
3917So one day, you're delivering pizza
3918to the band,
3919
3920891
392100:49:05,817 --> 00:49:06,817
3922and the next day,
3923
3924892
392500:49:06,860 --> 00:49:09,237
3926I'm... got a bag full of $15,000,
3927
3928893
392900:49:09,321 --> 00:49:11,799
3930and I'm walking through a parking lot
3931looking over my shoulder,
3932
3933894
393400:49:11,823 --> 00:49:14,076
3935thinking everybody knows
3936exactly what I'm doing.
3937
3938895
393900:49:14,284 --> 00:49:17,329
3940Well, you did what you had to do.
3941Some things we don't talk about.
3942
3943896
394400:49:21,208 --> 00:49:24,044
3945My mom wanted to go see this tour.
3946
3947897
394800:49:24,628 --> 00:49:28,840
3949Now, you know, nobody wants
3950to go to a concert with their mom.
3951
3952898
395300:49:29,341 --> 00:49:32,177
3954Especially when they're 19 years old.
3955
3956899
395700:49:32,844 --> 00:49:36,682
3958So, rebelliously,
3959I... I wore a Kiss T-shirt.
3960
3961900
396200:49:37,432 --> 00:49:40,560
3963So, I don't know which one of us
3964was more embarrassed,
3965
3966901
396700:49:40,644 --> 00:49:42,646
3968whether it was me or my mom.
3969
3970902
397100:49:42,729 --> 00:49:44,648
3972And we went to this concert.
3973
3974903
397500:49:45,148 --> 00:49:46,608
3976We're trying to get in,
3977
3978904
397900:49:47,150 --> 00:49:49,069
3980and the guy's giving us
3981kind of a hard time
3982
3983905
398400:49:49,152 --> 00:49:52,239
3985and looking at our tickets and the thing,
3986and we can't get in...
3987
3988906
398900:49:52,364 --> 00:49:55,075
3990And then, this guy comes walking up,
3991
3992907
399300:49:56,243 --> 00:49:58,829
3994and he doesn't have tickets,
3995and he tries to get in.
3996
3997908
399800:49:58,912 --> 00:50:00,712
3999And the cop at the door
4000is not letting him in,
4001
4002909
400300:50:00,747 --> 00:50:01,957
4004and not letting him in.
4005
4006910
400700:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,376
4008And so, finally, like, a bunch of people
4009come out,
4010
4011911
401200:50:04,459 --> 00:50:07,212
4013and they get Bob,
4014and Bob turns around and he's like...
4015
4016912
401700:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,466
4018And I'm just like this...
4019And my mom's like, "Come on."
4020
4021913
402200:50:11,550 --> 00:50:13,343
4023And I don't wanna, "come on,"
4024
4025914
402600:50:13,635 --> 00:50:17,431
4027but my mother pushes us through,
4028and so we go in with Bob, and, um...
4029
4030915
403100:50:17,848 --> 00:50:19,891
4032Bob turned around and he saw my shirt,
4033
4034916
403500:50:20,726 --> 00:50:21,768
4036and he was like,
4037
4038917
403900:50:22,561 --> 00:50:23,603
4040"Do you like them?"
4041
4042918
404300:50:23,979 --> 00:50:26,398
4044And then I realized he wanted
4045to talk about Kiss.
4046
4047919
404800:50:26,565 --> 00:50:29,860
4049I think I was trying to...
4050to sound like I was...
4051
4052920
405300:50:30,694 --> 00:50:32,738
4054smart, and so I started saying,
4055
4056921
405700:50:32,821 --> 00:50:37,617
4058"Well, you know, I think that they paint
4059their faces in this Kabuki style."
4060
4061922
406200:50:37,993 --> 00:50:38,827
4063And he said,
4064
4065923
406600:50:38,910 --> 00:50:43,248
4067"Oh, I bet Okuni never spit blood
4068into the audience."
4069
4070924
407100:50:43,540 --> 00:50:46,084
4072And I was like, "Okuni?"
4073
4074925
407500:50:46,418 --> 00:50:48,837
4076And he's like, "Izumo no Okuni."
4077
4078926
407900:50:49,296 --> 00:50:50,672
4080Oh, and that's, you know,
4081
4082927
408300:50:50,756 --> 00:50:53,008
4084it's one of the guys who started,
4085uh, Kabuki.
4086
4087928
408800:50:53,300 --> 00:50:54,300
4089So...
4090
4091929
409200:50:54,342 --> 00:50:58,597
4093<i>♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪</i>
4094
4095930
409600:50:59,473 --> 00:51:01,266
4097<i>♪ And party every day ♪</i>
4098
4099931
410000:51:01,349 --> 00:51:04,853
4101<i>♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪</i>
4102
4103932
410400:51:05,771 --> 00:51:07,564
4105<i>♪ And party every day ♪</i>
4106
4107933
410800:51:07,647 --> 00:51:10,817
4109<i>♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪</i>
4110
4111934
411200:51:10,901 --> 00:51:12,319
4113I can't hear you!
4114
4115935
411600:51:12,402 --> 00:51:13,779
4117<i>♪ And party every day ♪</i>
4118
4119936
412000:51:13,862 --> 00:51:15,947
4121<i>♪ I wanna rock and roll... ♪</i>
4122
4123937
412400:51:16,031 --> 00:51:18,071
4125Scarlet Rivera was some piece of work.
4126
4127938
412800:51:18,116 --> 00:51:21,369
4129Most people'd kind of stay away
4130from Scarlet, but, uh, not me.
4131
4132939
413300:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,750
4134Her boyfriend at the time
4135was the leader of Kiss.
4136
4137940
413800:51:28,085 --> 00:51:30,170
4139And she took me over to Queens
4140to see them play.
4141
4142941
414300:51:31,088 --> 00:51:34,007
4144They were playing in a small club.
4145They had face paint on,
4146
4147942
414800:51:34,091 --> 00:51:35,967
4149and I thought that was
4150kind of interesting.
4151
4152943
415300:51:37,302 --> 00:51:39,096
4154I kind of filed that away somewhere.
4155
4156944
415700:51:39,429 --> 00:51:41,014
4158Clap your hands!
4159
4160945
416100:51:41,515 --> 00:51:45,977
4162<i>♪ I wanna rock and roll all night ♪</i>
4163
4164946
416500:51:50,065 --> 00:51:53,860
4166Yeah, I remember a lot of things.
4167They... They said I had a wonderful time.
4168
4169947
417000:51:53,944 --> 00:51:56,238
4171I think I did.
4172
4173948
417400:51:56,655 --> 00:51:58,824
4175They said every time
4176we used to do any interviews,
4177
4178949
417900:51:58,907 --> 00:52:02,160
4180all they wanted to know was,
4181"Ronnie, we wanna hear about the orgies."
4182
4183950
418400:52:02,327 --> 00:52:03,370
4185I said, "Orgies?"
4186
4187951
418800:52:03,453 --> 00:52:06,224
4189I said, "God damn, we never had
4190any orgies. That sounds nasty as hell."
4191
4192952
419300:52:06,248 --> 00:52:10,752
4194I said, "We might have had 14 or 15 people
4195in love a time or two, but no orgies."
4196
4197953
419800:52:12,546 --> 00:52:13,546
4199Look who's here.
4200
4201954
420200:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,172
4203Yo, man.
4204
4205955
420600:52:15,549 --> 00:52:17,592
4207Well, Ronnie Hawkins, now,
4208
4209956
421000:52:17,676 --> 00:52:21,429
4211he looked like a shitkicker,
4212but he spoke with the wisdom of a sage.
4213
4214957
421500:52:22,556 --> 00:52:23,556
4216He was like a...
4217
4218958
421900:52:24,724 --> 00:52:25,724
4220a...
4221
4222959
422300:52:27,102 --> 00:52:28,395
4224gladiator or something...
4225
4226960
422700:52:29,020 --> 00:52:30,605
4228that wrestled and raced
4229
4230961
423100:52:30,689 --> 00:52:33,900
4232in, uh, in...
4233in some nondescript Roman arena.
4234
4235962
423600:52:34,276 --> 00:52:35,110
4237Uh...
4238
4239963
424000:52:35,193 --> 00:52:38,071
4241you expected Ronnie to, uh,
4242to wear a toga...
4243
4244964
424500:52:40,699 --> 00:52:42,367
4246instead of that ratty cowboy hat.
4247
4248965
424900:52:43,493 --> 00:52:45,847
4250- Remember Scarlet Rivera?
4251- Oh, yeah.
4252
4253966
425400:52:45,871 --> 00:52:47,998
4255She fell in love with my rhythm man
4256
4257967
425800:52:48,081 --> 00:52:49,541
4259from my band, Scarlet did.
4260
4261968
426200:52:50,500 --> 00:52:54,087
4263Yeah, they put on some interesting shows
4264there, up there in my room.
4265
4266969
426700:52:57,424 --> 00:52:59,843
4268I think I narrated a couple of 'em.
4269I'm not sure.
4270
4271970
427200:53:00,343 --> 00:53:03,054
4273But, uh, yeah, she was something else...
4274wore a sword.
4275
4276971
427700:53:03,847 --> 00:53:05,727
4278She had...
4279She wore a sword everywhere she went,
4280
4281972
428200:53:05,765 --> 00:53:06,808
4283that girl, so I didn't...
4284
4285973
428600:53:06,892 --> 00:53:09,728
4287I was a little bit uneasy
4288about trying to slip her out,
4289
4290974
429100:53:10,145 --> 00:53:12,939
4292'cause, boy, if you didn't satisfy her,
4293she's liable to stab you.
4294
4295975
429600:53:16,401 --> 00:53:17,652
4297She was unusual.
4298
4299976
430000:53:17,736 --> 00:53:20,572
4301I went to her room once,
4302and there was a box of stuff.
4303
4304977
430500:53:21,156 --> 00:53:24,701
4306Like, chains and mirrors...
4307
4308978
430900:53:25,535 --> 00:53:26,661
4310candelabras and...
4311
4312979
431300:53:27,996 --> 00:53:29,164
4314She had swords.
4315
4316980
431700:53:29,831 --> 00:53:30,832
4318She had a snake.
4319
4320981
432100:53:31,499 --> 00:53:32,499
4322Just, uh...
4323
4324982
432500:53:32,876 --> 00:53:35,670
4326many things in... in a trunk.
4327
4328983
432900:53:37,130 --> 00:53:40,800
4330And, uh, that told me more about her
4331than anything she had to say.
4332
4333984
433400:53:44,304 --> 00:53:45,664
4335She didn't say much.
4336
4337985
433800:53:47,515 --> 00:53:48,892
4339But she didn't have to.
4340
4341986
434200:53:51,353 --> 00:53:55,398
4343- What's that?
4344- This? This is my friend.
4345
4346987
434700:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,445
4348He keeps me company while I play.
4349
4350988
435100:54:00,946 --> 00:54:03,573
4352He's playing the dance beyond his limits.
4353
4354989
435500:54:05,325 --> 00:54:07,827
4356Something that most people
4357would say is impossible.
4358
4359990
436000:54:09,162 --> 00:54:13,375
4361But artists like to challenge
4362the impossible, I guess.
4363
4364991
436500:54:14,292 --> 00:54:17,045
4366That's why we wear
4367the makeup we wear, I guess, too.
4368
4369992
437000:54:19,506 --> 00:54:21,883
4371It's a striking image
4372you have onstage.
4373
4374993
437500:54:24,094 --> 00:54:26,596
4376Mr. Tambourine Man gives us
4377the opportunity
4378
4379994
438000:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,307
4381to be whoever we wish to be.
4382
4383995
438400:54:45,699 --> 00:54:49,035
4385This, uh, young, beautiful,
4386young lady over here is Scarlet.
4387
4388996
438900:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,287
4390She plays with us, too.
4391
4392997
439300:55:09,639 --> 00:55:14,436
4394I'd been at the high holy gypsy holiday
4395at Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer,
4396
4397998
439800:55:14,519 --> 00:55:15,519
4399South of France.
4400
4401999
440200:55:20,442 --> 00:55:23,778
4403It happens to be on my birthday,
4404so it was like going home.
4405
44061000
440700:55:41,421 --> 00:55:43,006
4408Manitas de Plata was there,
4409
44101001
441100:55:43,089 --> 00:55:45,467
4412and he played all night
4413along the campfire.
4414
44151002
441600:55:46,426 --> 00:55:48,219
4417I mean, he was fantastic.
4418
44191003
442000:55:49,054 --> 00:55:53,350
4421And, uh, I stayed up till dawn
4422just listening to him play.
4423
44241004
442500:56:31,137 --> 00:56:33,932
4426Some time after that,
4427couldn't have been more than a week,
4428
44291005
443000:56:34,474 --> 00:56:37,435
4431that song came to me in a dream.
4432
44331006
443400:56:37,894 --> 00:56:39,646
4435<i>♪ Your breath is sweet ♪</i>
4436
44371007
443800:56:39,729 --> 00:56:43,274
4439<i>♪ Your eyes are like
4440Two jewels in the sky ♪</i>
4441
44421008
444300:56:45,819 --> 00:56:48,488
4444<i>♪ Your back is straight
4445Your hair is smooth ♪</i>
4446
44471009
444800:56:48,571 --> 00:56:51,366
4449<i>♪ On the pillow where you lie ♪</i>
4450
44511010
445200:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,496
4453<i>♪ But I don't sense affection ♪</i>
4454
44551011
445600:56:56,579 --> 00:56:58,415
4457<i>♪ No gratitude or love ♪</i>
4458
44591012
446000:57:00,250 --> 00:57:02,877
4461<i>♪ Your loyalty is not to me ♪</i>
4462
44631013
446400:57:02,961 --> 00:57:05,839
4465<i>♪ But to the stars above ♪</i>
4466
44671014
446800:57:07,132 --> 00:57:11,344
4469<i>♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪</i>
4470
44711015
447200:57:14,347 --> 00:57:18,685
4473<i>♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪</i>
4474
44751016
447600:57:20,228 --> 00:57:23,481
4477<i>♪ To the valley below ♪</i>
4478
44791017
448000:57:35,827 --> 00:57:39,247
4481<i>♪ Your daddy, he's an outlaw ♪</i>
4482
44831018
448400:57:39,330 --> 00:57:41,499
4485<i>♪ And a wanderer by trade ♪</i>
4486
44871019
448800:57:43,793 --> 00:57:46,546
4489<i>♪ He'll teach you how to pick and choose ♪</i>
4490
44911020
449200:57:46,629 --> 00:57:49,424
4493<i>♪ And how to throw the blade ♪</i>
4494
44951021
449600:57:51,342 --> 00:57:53,803
4497<i>♪ He oversees his kingdom ♪</i>
4498
44991022
450000:57:54,262 --> 00:57:57,182
4501<i>♪ So no stranger does intrude ♪</i>
4502
45031023
450400:57:58,266 --> 00:58:01,519
4505<i>♪ His voice, it trembles as he calls out ♪</i>
4506
45071024
450800:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,063
4509<i>♪ For another plate of food ♪</i>
4510
45111025
451200:58:05,356 --> 00:58:09,569
4513<i>♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪</i>
4514
45151026
451600:58:12,530 --> 00:58:16,659
4517<i>♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪</i>
4518
45191027
452000:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,247
4521<i>♪ To the valley below ♪</i>
4522
45231028
452400:58:33,801 --> 00:58:37,096
4525<i>♪ Your sister sees the future ♪</i>
4526
45271029
452800:58:37,180 --> 00:58:39,224
4529<i>♪ Like your mama and yourself ♪</i>
4530
45311030
453200:58:41,643 --> 00:58:44,187
4533<i>♪ You've never learned to read or write ♪</i>
4534
45351031
453600:58:44,395 --> 00:58:47,357
4537<i>♪ There's no books upon your shelf ♪</i>
4538
45391032
454000:58:48,650 --> 00:58:51,611
4541<i>♪ And your pleasure knows no limits ♪</i>
4542
45431033
454400:58:52,028 --> 00:58:54,614
4545<i>♪ Your voice is like a meadowlark ♪</i>
4546
45471034
454800:58:55,823 --> 00:58:58,535
4549<i>♪ But your heart is like an ocean ♪</i>
4550
45511035
455200:58:58,993 --> 00:59:02,247
4553<i>♪ Mysterious and dark ♪</i>
4554
45551036
455600:59:02,956 --> 00:59:07,126
4557<i>♪ One more cup of coffee for the road ♪</i>
4558
45591037
456000:59:10,171 --> 00:59:14,634
4561<i>♪ One more cup of coffee 'fore I go ♪</i>
4562
45631038
456400:59:16,094 --> 00:59:19,389
4565<i>♪ To the valley below ♪</i>
4566
45671039
456801:00:04,434 --> 01:00:06,811
4569Are you used
4570to going to rock shows?
4571
45721040
457301:00:08,021 --> 01:00:10,481
4574No, it's one of the very few I've seen.
4575
45761041
457701:00:12,233 --> 01:00:16,195
4578I finally realized, after last night,
4579I've been missing an awful lot.
4580
45811042
458201:00:17,530 --> 01:00:19,490
4583I thought it was
4584the most unusual occurrence.
4585
45861043
458701:00:19,574 --> 01:00:21,826
4588I never... I never noticed...
4589
45901044
459101:00:22,577 --> 01:00:24,746
4592as a... as a part of an audience,
4593
45941045
459501:00:26,414 --> 01:00:27,957
4596I never paid attention to a...
4597
45981046
459901:00:29,751 --> 01:00:32,837
4600to a response between an audience
4601and people on the stage,
4602
46031047
460401:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,172
4605performers onstage.
4606
46071048
460801:00:34,922 --> 01:00:38,176
4609That, to me,
4610was like a show all by itself.
4611
46121049
461301:00:39,177 --> 01:00:41,804
4614It was like one battery charging another.
4615
46161050
461701:00:45,308 --> 01:00:46,309
4618And...
4619
46201051
462101:00:47,143 --> 01:00:50,521
4622you not only could feel the vibes,
4623you could... you could almost see them.
4624
46251052
462601:00:52,774 --> 01:00:53,816
4627There was a...
4628
46291053
463001:00:55,860 --> 01:00:58,571
4631a love affair between the performers
4632and the audience.
4633
46341054
463501:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,204
4636Uh, I was thinking about the forces
4637
46381055
463901:01:06,287 --> 01:01:07,580
4640that draw people together.
4641
46421056
464301:01:08,039 --> 01:01:14,295
4644The magnetism that makes the unit
4645that's now formed as Rolling Thunder.
4646
46471057
464801:01:14,837 --> 01:01:15,837
4649And, uh...
4650
46511058
465201:01:16,047 --> 01:01:18,716
4653to me, the future already exists.
4654
46551059
465601:01:20,009 --> 01:01:22,553
4657For some people, maybe for everyone.
4658
46591060
466001:01:25,348 --> 01:01:28,976
4661It's just a matter
4662of tuning yourself to it.
4663
46641061
466501:01:34,065 --> 01:01:38,778
4666"I saw the best minds
4667of my generation destroyed by madness,
4668
46691062
467001:01:39,112 --> 01:01:41,698
4671starving hysterical naked,
4672
46731063
467401:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,535
4675dragging themselves
4676through the negro streets at dawn
4677
46781064
467901:01:45,618 --> 01:01:47,745
4680looking for an angry fix..."
4681
46821065
468301:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,457
4684Allen Ginsberg was a saintlike figure.
4685
46861066
468701:01:52,208 --> 01:01:55,211
4688It was like having a...
4689kinda like a father figure.
4690
46911067
469201:01:55,294 --> 01:01:56,587
4693He was always very sober.
4694
46951068
469601:01:58,005 --> 01:02:01,217
4697No, Allen Ginsberg
4698was anything but a father figure.
4699
47001069
470101:02:02,635 --> 01:02:04,679
4702He was definitely not a father figure.
4703
47041070
470501:02:05,221 --> 01:02:06,472
4706Allen Ginsberg,
4707
47081071
470901:02:06,556 --> 01:02:10,184
4710a guy I really... I really miss,
4711of the ones that are gone.
4712
47131072
471401:02:10,685 --> 01:02:13,855
4715We became very friendly,
4716I mean, you know, he... he...
4717
47181073
471901:02:14,147 --> 01:02:17,775
4720I wasn't a bad-looking, you know,
4721little 19-year-old at the time,
4722
47231074
472401:02:17,859 --> 01:02:20,403
4725and he had a thing for straight,
4726
47271075
472801:02:20,611 --> 01:02:21,611
4729talented...
4730
47311076
473201:02:22,488 --> 01:02:23,488
4733um...
4734
47351077
473601:02:23,990 --> 01:02:25,616
4737teenage boys.
4738
47391078
474001:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,744
4741So, that probably added to it, I suppose.
4742
47431079
474401:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,687
4745One thing people
4746don't know about Ginsberg
4747
47481080
474901:02:36,711 --> 01:02:38,337
4750is that he was an incredible dancer.
4751
47521081
475301:02:38,421 --> 01:02:39,797
4754Um... who...
4755
47561082
475701:02:39,881 --> 01:02:44,677
4758he would just do these steps
4759that were so unusual and exciting.
4760
47611083
476201:02:44,761 --> 01:02:47,388
4763You know, and he'd always have
4764a good dance partner, too.
4765
47661084
476701:02:47,472 --> 01:02:51,434
4768Uh, usually somebody from the tour,
4769somebody we'd pick up along the way.
4770
47711085
477201:02:51,768 --> 01:02:54,187
4773Uh... He danced a lot, Ginsberg.
4774
47751086
477601:02:56,856 --> 01:02:59,609
4777"& shaman
4778he swings a skinny leg to the sky
4779
47801087
478101:02:59,692 --> 01:03:01,861
4782& shaman
4783he desires you be there watching
4784
47851088
478601:03:01,944 --> 01:03:03,696
4787shaman don't care about eating now
4788
47891089
479001:03:03,821 --> 01:03:06,240
4791he's got his paint on he's ready for jive
4792
47931090
479401:03:06,574 --> 01:03:08,993
4795& shaman's going to sway
4796& gesture in space
4797
47981091
479901:03:09,076 --> 01:03:12,371
4800& shaman's shouting yeah for you
4801& singing your sorrow
4802
48031092
480401:03:12,455 --> 01:03:14,248
4805shaman's not faithful except to you
4806
48071093
480801:03:14,332 --> 01:03:16,334
4809shaman does it for you you know all this
4810
48111094
481201:03:16,417 --> 01:03:18,753
4813shaman's got his eyes on the violin."
4814
48151095
481601:03:21,380 --> 01:03:23,925
4817There was this yearning,
4818Allen's yearning,
4819
48201096
482101:03:24,509 --> 01:03:26,093
4822to either be Bob or...
4823
48241097
482501:03:27,094 --> 01:03:29,013
4826have Bob love him more.
4827
48281098
482901:03:29,096 --> 01:03:31,015
4830And I remember Bob saying,
4831
48321099
483301:03:31,098 --> 01:03:33,226
4834"Just go out and sing
4835on the street corners."
4836
48371100
483801:03:33,309 --> 01:03:34,811
4839So Allen was essentially doing that.
4840
48411101
484201:03:35,144 --> 01:03:37,021
4843<i>♪ Ah... ♪</i>
4844
48451102
484601:03:37,104 --> 01:03:40,775
4847Seeing Ginsberg was
4848like going to see the Oracle of Delphi.
4849
48501103
485101:03:41,234 --> 01:03:44,195
4852He didn't care about material wealth
4853or political power.
4854
48551104
485601:03:44,779 --> 01:03:46,447
4857He was his own kind of king.
4858
48591105
486001:03:48,157 --> 01:03:50,409
4861But... he wanted to play music.
4862
48631106
486401:03:52,870 --> 01:03:55,206
4865He had already achieved
4866what any national poet
4867
48681107
486901:03:55,289 --> 01:03:56,541
4870could hope to achieve.
4871
48721108
487301:03:56,624 --> 01:03:59,919
4874"I saw the best minds of my generation
4875destroyed by madness."
4876
48771109
487801:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,129
4879Very few poets have done that.
4880
48811110
488201:04:02,964 --> 01:04:04,215
4883Robert Frost, maybe.
4884
48851111
488601:04:04,841 --> 01:04:07,301
4887"Promises to keep,
4888miles to go before I sleep."
4889
48901112
489101:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,221
4892Whitman said,
4893"I am large, I contain multitudes."
4894
48951113
489601:04:10,304 --> 01:04:12,139
4897We still remember those lines today.
4898
48991114
490001:04:13,140 --> 01:04:16,394
4901Today's poets don't reach
4902into the public consciousness that way.
4903
49041115
490501:04:17,395 --> 01:04:20,523
4906So it was remarkable
4907that Allen had actually broken through.
4908
49091116
491001:04:21,274 --> 01:04:25,736
4911Nowadays, lines that people remember
4912are lines from songs, lyrics from songs...
4913
49141117
491501:04:27,071 --> 01:04:29,115
4916"Your cheatin' heart will make you weep."
4917
49181118
491901:04:29,198 --> 01:04:32,034
4920"Don't change your hair for me,
4921not if you care for me."
4922
49231119
492401:04:32,827 --> 01:04:35,580
4925"I'm in the mood for love."
4926"What a difference a day makes."
4927
49281120
492901:04:35,663 --> 01:04:36,706
4930"Ain't misbehavin'."
4931
49321121
493301:04:37,039 --> 01:04:40,459
4934Allen wanted his lines
4935to be remembered like that,
4936
49371122
493801:04:41,085 --> 01:04:42,753
4939but he was a poet.
4940
49411123
494201:04:43,504 --> 01:04:44,881
4943He wasn't a songwriter.
4944
49451124
494601:04:46,841 --> 01:04:50,803
4947By 1970 through 1975,
4948
49491125
495001:04:50,970 --> 01:04:54,599
4951all of the, uh, heroes of song and poetry
4952
49531126
495401:04:55,558 --> 01:04:57,059
4955were out on their own,
4956
49571127
495801:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,560
4959uh...
4960
49611128
496201:04:59,854 --> 01:05:01,522
4963in the solitude...
4964
49651129
496601:05:02,481 --> 01:05:03,481
4967doing their art.
4968
49691130
497001:05:05,234 --> 01:05:08,029
4971The people that were going to die
4972or drink themselves to death,
4973
49741131
497501:05:08,112 --> 01:05:10,531
4976as many great artists did,
4977or get strung out...
4978
49791132
498001:05:11,198 --> 01:05:15,161
4981uh, went down to... uh...
4982
49831133
498401:05:16,162 --> 01:05:18,789
4985She'ol, as Kerouac did,
4986
49871134
498801:05:19,373 --> 01:05:22,627
4989105 miles from this ocean,
4990buried in Lowell.
4991
49921135
499301:05:23,711 --> 01:05:26,797
4994But that's where I got all my poetry,
4995out of <i>Mexico City Blues.</i>
4996
49971136
499801:05:27,840 --> 01:05:28,840
4999You ever read this?
5000
50011137
500201:05:29,050 --> 01:05:30,384
5003- Sure.
5004- This book...
5005
50061138
500701:05:30,843 --> 01:05:33,387
5008- This is my favorite.
5009- Yeah, I... I read this. Uh...
5010
50111139
501201:05:34,764 --> 01:05:37,433
5013My good friend Dave Whitaker
5014gave me a copy of this book.
5015
50161140
501701:05:37,516 --> 01:05:40,853
5018- When?
5019- Uh, in Minneapolis in 1959.
5020
50211141
502201:05:40,937 --> 01:05:41,937
5023Uh-huh.
5024
50251142
502601:05:42,438 --> 01:05:45,608
5027I remember when David gave me this book,
5028it just blew a hole in my mind.
5029
50301143
503101:05:45,942 --> 01:05:46,942
5032Really?
5033
50341144
503501:05:47,777 --> 01:05:50,071
5036Yeah.
5037"What's been buried in the grave?
5038
50391145
504001:05:50,154 --> 01:05:50,988
5041Dust.
5042
50431146
504401:05:51,155 --> 01:05:52,341
5045- Perfect..."
5046- "Perfect dust."
5047
50481147
504901:05:52,365 --> 01:05:54,659
5050"Perfect dust in time."
5051
50521148
505301:05:55,409 --> 01:05:57,036
5054He wrote a lot about being dead.
5055
50561149
505701:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,790
5058"Once I went to a movie
5059At midnight, 1940,
5060
50611150
506201:06:00,873 --> 01:06:02,375
5063<i>Mice and Men,</i> the name of it.
5064
50651151
506601:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,419
5067The Red Block Boxcars
5068Rolling by
5069
50701152
507101:06:05,878 --> 01:06:06,712
5072Yessir
5073
50741153
507501:06:06,796 --> 01:06:08,673
5076life finally gets tired of living -
5077
50781154
507901:06:09,215 --> 01:06:11,759
5080On both occasions I had wild
5081Face looking into lights
5082
50831155
508401:06:11,842 --> 01:06:13,219
5085Of streets where phantoms
5086
50871156
508801:06:13,302 --> 01:06:16,180
5089Hastened out of sight
5090Into Memorial cello time."
5091
50921157
509301:06:16,263 --> 01:06:17,863
5094Oh, yeah.
5095
50961158
509701:06:17,932 --> 01:06:20,267
5098Here's one.
5099"Dead and don't know it,
5100
51011159
510201:06:20,351 --> 01:06:21,394
5103Living and do.
5104
51051160
510601:06:21,811 --> 01:06:23,562
5107The living have a dead idea.
5108
51091161
511001:06:24,105 --> 01:06:25,856
5111A person is a living idea;
5112
51131162
511401:06:25,982 --> 01:06:27,775
5115after death, a dead idea.
5116
51171163
511801:06:27,858 --> 01:06:29,402
5119When rock becomes air..."
5120
51211164
512201:06:29,485 --> 01:06:30,569
5123"I will be there."
5124
51251165
512601:06:31,570 --> 01:06:33,280
5127- He's here.
5128- Yeah, this is where he is.
5129
51301166
513101:06:33,364 --> 01:06:35,700
5132- Yeah. So rock has become air.
5133- Yeah.
5134
51351167
513601:06:38,744 --> 01:06:40,784
5137- Let's sit down a minute, relax.
5138- Well, this is...
5139
51401168
514101:06:41,330 --> 01:06:44,834
5142- Yes, it's not every day...
5143- Kerouac, he honored life.
5144
51451169
514601:06:45,710 --> 01:06:48,963
5147I had to read everything again,
5148that Kerouac wrote.
5149
51501170
515101:06:49,046 --> 01:06:51,882
5152Not that I did,
5153but I thought about it differently.
5154
51551171
515601:06:52,425 --> 01:06:54,301
5157All of a sudden, <i>On the Road,</i>
5158
51591172
516001:06:55,761 --> 01:06:57,680
5161he was talking about the road of life.
5162
51631173
516401:07:07,231 --> 01:07:09,025
5165"Strange now to think of you,
5166
51671174
516801:07:09,108 --> 01:07:11,235
5169gone without corsets and eyes,
5170
51711175
517201:07:11,318 --> 01:07:13,112
5173while I walk
5174on the sunny pavement
5175
51761176
517701:07:13,195 --> 01:07:14,405
5178of Greenwich Village,
5179
51801177
518101:07:15,197 --> 01:07:16,782
5182downtown Manhattan,
5183
51841178
518501:07:17,033 --> 01:07:18,242
5186clear winter noon,
5187
51881179
518901:07:18,576 --> 01:07:20,578
5190and I've been up all night talking,
5191
51921180
519301:07:20,661 --> 01:07:21,662
5194talking,
5195
51961181
519701:07:21,746 --> 01:07:23,247
5198reading the Kaddish aloud,
5199
52001182
520101:07:23,664 --> 01:07:25,166
5202listening to Ray Charles
5203
52041183
520501:07:25,249 --> 01:07:27,752
5206blues shout blind on the phonograph
5207
52081184
520901:07:28,169 --> 01:07:29,962
5210The rhythm, the rhythm
5211
52121185
521301:07:30,629 --> 01:07:32,910
5214and your memory in my head..."
5215"like a poem in the dark...
5216
52171186
521801:07:32,965 --> 01:07:35,301
5219escaped back to Oblivion...
5220
52211187
522201:07:35,926 --> 01:07:37,178
5223No more to say,
5224
52251188
522601:07:37,261 --> 01:07:40,723
5227and nothing to weep for
5228but the Beings in the Dream,
5229
52301189
523101:07:40,806 --> 01:07:42,516
5232trapped in its disappearance,
5233
52341190
523501:07:43,017 --> 01:07:44,017
5236sighing,
5237
52381191
523901:07:44,268 --> 01:07:45,268
5240screaming with it,
5241
52421192
524301:07:45,603 --> 01:07:48,856
5244buying and selling pieces of phantom,
5245
52461193
524701:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,525
5248laughing and weeping over mahjong,
5249
52501194
525101:07:51,776 --> 01:07:53,444
5252worshipping each other,
5253
52541195
525501:07:53,611 --> 01:07:56,072
5256worshipping the God included in it all...
5257
52581196
525901:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,908
5260longing or inevitability?
5261
52621197
526301:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,327
5264while it lasts, a Vision...
5265
52661198
526701:08:01,786 --> 01:08:05,164
5268Death, stay thy phantoms!
5269
52701199
527101:08:05,748 --> 01:08:08,292
5272O mother
5273what have I left out
5274
52751200
527601:08:08,876 --> 01:08:11,420
5277O mother
5278what have I forgotten
5279
52801201
528101:08:11,796 --> 01:08:14,465
5282O mother
5283farewell
5284
52851202
528601:08:14,799 --> 01:08:16,801
5287with a long black shoe
5288
52891203
529001:08:17,301 --> 01:08:19,720
5291farewell
5292with Communist Party
5293
52941204
529501:08:19,804 --> 01:08:21,305
5296and a broken stocking
5297
52981205
529901:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,933
5300farewell
5301with six dark hairs
5302
53031206
530401:08:24,016 --> 01:08:25,684
5305on the wen of your breast
5306
53071207
530801:08:26,185 --> 01:08:28,562
5309farewell
5310with your old dress
5311
53121208
531301:08:28,646 --> 01:08:31,649
5314and a long black beard around the vagina
5315
53161209
531701:08:32,066 --> 01:08:35,569
5318with your eyes
5319with your eyes of Russia
5320
53211210
532201:08:35,653 --> 01:08:37,822
5323with your eyes of no money
5324
53251211
532601:08:37,947 --> 01:08:40,241
5327with your eyes of Aunt Elanor
5328
53291212
533001:08:40,533 --> 01:08:42,326
5331with your eyes of shock
5332
53331213
533401:08:42,618 --> 01:08:44,829
5335with your eyes of lobotomy
5336
53371214
533801:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,583
5339with your eyes of divorce
5340with your eyes of stroke
5341
53421215
534301:08:49,792 --> 01:08:52,002
5344with your eyes alone
5345
53461216
534701:08:52,169 --> 01:08:53,337
5348with your eyes
5349
53501217
535101:08:53,754 --> 01:08:54,964
5352with your eyes
5353
53541218
535501:08:55,214 --> 01:08:57,883
5356with your death full of flowers."
5357
53581219
535901:09:20,406 --> 01:09:23,701
5360<i>♪ She walks alone
5361Through the city blocks ♪</i>
5362
53631220
536401:09:24,493 --> 01:09:27,705
5365<i>♪ Oh, hears the tickin' of the clocks ♪</i>
5366
53671221
536801:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,625
5369<i>♪ Hunts for her by the waterfront docks ♪</i>
5370
53711222
537201:09:31,834 --> 01:09:34,670
5373<i>♪ Where the sailors all come in ♪</i>
5374
53751223
537601:09:35,838 --> 01:09:38,340
5377<i>♪ Maybe he'll see her there once again ♪</i>
5378
53791224
538001:09:39,592 --> 01:09:42,803
5381<i>♪ How long must he wait? ♪</i>
5382
53831225
538401:09:44,638 --> 01:09:48,976
5385<i>♪ One more time
5386For a simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5387
53881226
538901:09:52,021 --> 01:09:54,040
5390<i>Tell me a bit
5391about the spirit of the tour.</i>
5392
53931227
539401:09:54,064 --> 01:09:56,501
5395<i>- 'Cause you're doing new songs, right?
5396- Yeah.</i>
5397
53981228
539901:09:56,525 --> 01:09:59,528
5400<i>And a lot of people in
5401the audience expected the old songs.</i>
5402
54031229
540401:09:59,612 --> 01:10:01,464
5405<i>But Ratso, you know,
5406that's the first...</i>
5407
54081230
540901:10:01,488 --> 01:10:03,383
5410<i>- one of the first rules...
5411- What's that?</i>
5412
54131231
541401:10:03,407 --> 01:10:04,807
5415<i>The expectations, you know?</i>
5416
54171232
541801:10:04,867 --> 01:10:07,369
5419<i>If you have big expectations,
5420you're gonna be let down.</i>
5421
54221233
542301:10:07,453 --> 01:10:09,371
5424<i>You can't have any expectations.</i>
5425
54261234
542701:10:09,455 --> 01:10:11,135
5428<i>But people do
5429have preconceptions.</i>
5430
54311235
543201:10:11,207 --> 01:10:13,918
5433<i>That's their problem, Ratso.
5434That's their own problem.</i>
5435
54361236
543701:10:14,001 --> 01:10:16,587
5438<i>We can't account for everybody
5439who's walking around, you know?</i>
5440
54411237
544201:10:16,670 --> 01:10:18,088
5443<i>Like having expectations.</i>
5444
54451238
544601:10:18,172 --> 01:10:19,590
5447<i>I mean, who gives a shit?</i>
5448
54491239
545001:10:19,673 --> 01:10:20,841
5451<i>Yeah.</i>
5452
54531240
545401:10:20,925 --> 01:10:24,094
5455<i>♪ They sat together in the park ♪</i>
5456
54571241
545801:10:25,137 --> 01:10:27,723
5459<i>♪ As the evening sky got dark ♪</i>
5460
54611242
546201:10:28,933 --> 01:10:31,477
5463<i>♪ She looked at him and he felt a spark ♪</i>
5464
54651243
546601:10:32,853 --> 01:10:35,356
5467<i>♪ Tingle to his bones ♪</i>
5468
54691244
547001:10:36,774 --> 01:10:39,360
5471<i>♪ 'Twas then he felt alone ♪</i>
5472
54731245
547401:10:40,611 --> 01:10:43,739
5475<i>♪ And he wished he'd gone straight ♪</i>
5476
54771246
547801:10:44,990 --> 01:10:49,828
5479<i>♪ And watched out
5480For a simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5481
54821247
548301:10:53,874 --> 01:10:56,919
5484<i>♪ They walked along by the old canal ♪</i>
5485
54861248
548701:10:57,962 --> 01:11:00,714
5488<i>♪ A little confused, I remember well ♪</i>
5489
54901249
549101:11:02,091 --> 01:11:04,885
5492<i>♪ And stopped into a strange hotel ♪</i>
5493
54941250
549501:11:05,469 --> 01:11:08,430
5496<i>♪ With a neon burnin' bright ♪</i>
5497
54981251
549901:11:09,598 --> 01:11:12,601
5500<i>♪ He felt the heat of the night ♪</i>
5501
55021252
550301:11:13,519 --> 01:11:17,731
5504<i>♪ Hit him like a freight train ♪</i>
5505
55061253
550701:11:18,023 --> 01:11:22,778
5508<i>♪ Moving with a simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5509
55101254
551101:11:26,907 --> 01:11:29,952
5512<i>♪ A saxophone someplace softly played ♪</i>
5513
55141255
551501:11:30,869 --> 01:11:33,831
5516<i>♪ As she was walkin' on by the arcade ♪</i>
5517
55181256
551901:11:34,999 --> 01:11:37,876
5520<i>♪ She heard the melody rise and fade ♪</i>
5521
55221257
552301:11:38,585 --> 01:11:41,380
5524<i>♪ The sun was coming up ♪</i>
5525
55261258
552701:11:42,214 --> 01:11:45,551
5528<i>♪ She dropped a coin into the cup ♪</i>
5529
55301259
553101:11:46,343 --> 01:11:49,680
5532<i>♪ Of a blind man at the gate ♪</i>
5533
55341260
553501:11:50,681 --> 01:11:55,686
5536<i>♪ And forgot about
5537A simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5538
55391261
554001:12:00,024 --> 01:12:03,110
5541<i>♪ He woke up, she was gone ♪</i>
5542
55431262
554401:12:03,902 --> 01:12:06,739
5545<i>♪ He didn't see nothing but the dawn ♪</i>
5546
55471263
554801:12:07,906 --> 01:12:11,076
5549<i>♪ He got out of bed
5550And put his clothes back on ♪</i>
5551
55521264
555301:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,288
5554<i>♪ Pushed back the blinds ♪</i>
5555
55561265
555701:12:15,247 --> 01:12:18,292
5558<i>♪ Found a note she'd left behind ♪</i>
5559
55601266
556101:12:19,126 --> 01:12:22,629
5562<i>♪ To which he just could not relate ♪</i>
5563
55641267
556501:12:24,214 --> 01:12:28,469
5566<i>♪ All about a simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5567
55681268
556901:12:34,391 --> 01:12:37,853
5570<i>♪ He hears the ticking of the clocks ♪</i>
5571
55721269
557301:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,024
5574<i>♪ And walks alone
5575Through the city blocks ♪</i>
5576
55771270
557801:12:42,649 --> 01:12:45,861
5579<i>♪ Hunts her down by the waterfront docks ♪</i>
5580
55811271
558201:12:45,944 --> 01:12:48,947
5583<i>♪ Where the sailors all roll in ♪</i>
5584
55851272
558601:12:49,740 --> 01:12:52,993
5587<i>♪ Maybe he'll spot her once again ♪</i>
5588
55891273
559001:12:53,494 --> 01:12:57,206
5591<i>♪ How long must he wait? ♪</i>
5592
55931274
559401:12:58,791 --> 01:13:03,337
5595<i>♪ One more time
5596For a simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5597
55981275
559901:13:07,549 --> 01:13:10,177
5600<i>♪ People tell me it's a crime ♪</i>
5601
56021276
560301:13:11,428 --> 01:13:14,640
5604<i>♪ To know too much for too long a time ♪</i>
5605
56061277
560701:13:15,724 --> 01:13:18,977
5608<i>♪ She should've caught me in my prime ♪</i>
5609
56101278
561101:13:19,728 --> 01:13:22,106
5612<i>♪ She would've stayed with me ♪</i>
5613
56141279
561501:13:22,773 --> 01:13:26,026
5616<i>♪ Instead I'm going off to sea ♪</i>
5617
56181280
561901:13:26,652 --> 01:13:30,531
5620<i>♪ And leaving me to meditate ♪</i>
5621
56221281
562301:13:31,824 --> 01:13:37,079
5624<i>♪ Upon that simple twist of fate ♪</i>
5625
56261282
562701:14:27,504 --> 01:14:30,924
5628I shall resign the presidency
5629effective at noon tomorrow.
5630
56311283
563201:14:31,008 --> 01:14:33,927
5633Vice President Ford will be sworn in
5634as president
5635
56361284
563701:14:34,428 --> 01:14:37,055
5638at that hour in this office.
5639
56401285
564101:14:37,139 --> 01:14:40,851
5642<i>♪ I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine ♪</i>
5643
56441286
564501:14:40,976 --> 01:14:43,896
5646<i>♪ Alive as you or me... ♪</i>
5647
56481287
564901:14:44,188 --> 01:14:47,274
5650Thomas Jefferson said,
5651"The people...
5652
56531288
565401:14:48,108 --> 01:14:52,821
5655are the only sure reliance
5656for the preservation of our liberty."
5657
56581289
565901:14:52,905 --> 01:14:56,867
5660<i>♪ With a blanket underneath his arm ♪</i>
5661
56621290
566301:14:56,950 --> 01:14:58,994
5664<i>♪ And a coat of solid gold... ♪</i>
5665
56661291
566701:14:59,077 --> 01:15:02,831
5668Abraham Lincoln renewed
5669this American article of faith
5670
56711292
567201:15:02,915 --> 01:15:08,003
5673asking, "Is there any better way
5674or equal hope in the world?"
5675
56761293
567701:15:08,128 --> 01:15:09,129
5678Go!
5679
56801294
568101:15:09,213 --> 01:15:10,964
5682Everybody get out of the way, now!
5683
56841295
568501:15:11,131 --> 01:15:12,131
5686Get down!
5687
56881296
568901:15:12,341 --> 01:15:13,383
5690Get out of the way!
5691
56921297
569301:15:16,136 --> 01:15:19,389
5694<i>♪ Come out ye gifted kings and queens... ♪</i>
5695
56961298
569701:15:19,473 --> 01:15:22,976
5698We've got too many people
5699who are knocking every institution,
5700
57011299
570201:15:23,143 --> 01:15:25,521
5703including the Congress, the president,
5704the flag,
5705
57061300
570701:15:25,604 --> 01:15:26,604
5708everything.
5709
57101301
571101:15:26,813 --> 01:15:28,398
5712I think it's time to stand up and say,
5713
57141302
571501:15:28,482 --> 01:15:31,527
5716"Well, we believe in these institutions,
5717and we believe in America."
5718
57191303
572001:15:32,236 --> 01:15:34,154
5721And I think America ought to sing
5722a little bit.
5723
57241304
572501:15:34,238 --> 01:15:35,822
5726<i>♪...accordingly ♪</i>
5727
57281305
572901:15:35,906 --> 01:15:40,786
5730<i>♪ And know you're not alone ♪</i>
5731
57321306
573301:15:44,248 --> 01:15:46,792
5734Now, we're talking about
5735Bob Dylan the man,
5736
57371307
573801:15:46,917 --> 01:15:49,836
5739that's who we're talking about,
5740the message he preaches when he sings...
5741
57421308
574301:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,232
5744- You can't use microscopes on everything.
5745- The happiness...
5746
57471309
574801:15:52,256 --> 01:15:53,549
5749You're not using microscopes.
5750
57511310
575201:15:53,632 --> 01:15:56,426
5753- You can't use a scalpel that way.
5754- You're using the message.
5755
57561311
575701:15:56,969 --> 01:15:58,971
5758I thought it was sort of depressing...
5759
57601312
576101:15:59,555 --> 01:16:02,683
5762that people would stand in line
5763for two days to see a man.
5764
57651313
576601:16:02,766 --> 01:16:04,142
5767It just so... shows...
5768
57691314
577001:16:05,894 --> 01:16:08,564
5771they have that need for something
5772or somebody to...
5773
57741315
577501:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,318
5776bring salvation or something. You know?
5777
57781316
577901:16:13,986 --> 01:16:15,153
5780But I did it, too.
5781
57821317
578301:16:16,196 --> 01:16:17,196
5784I don't know.
5785
57861318
578701:16:17,406 --> 01:16:20,033
5788About five in the afternoon,
5789the day before the show, right?
5790
57911319
579201:16:20,117 --> 01:16:20,993
5793- Yeah.
5794- You were there,
5795
57961320
579701:16:21,076 --> 01:16:23,596
5798you'd been there for a couple of days,
5799you hit on me right away.
5800
58011321
580201:16:23,662 --> 01:16:25,222
5803You said you wanted this button, right?
5804
58051322
580601:16:25,289 --> 01:16:26,969
5807Thought I was Dylan
5808or some shit like that.
5809
58101323
581101:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,584
5812- Yeah, right. Mm-hmm.
5813- Yeah.
5814
58151324
581601:16:29,167 --> 01:16:31,336
5817A lot of people think you are, Larry.
5818
58191325
582001:16:31,753 --> 01:16:34,256
5821Well, it's pretty obvious.
5822
58231326
582401:16:34,339 --> 01:16:36,341
5825Take your glasses off
5826for a minute.
5827
58281327
582901:16:37,467 --> 01:16:39,511
5830- I'm not him.
5831- Well, anyways...
5832
58331328
583401:16:39,636 --> 01:16:42,806
5835That little shit Ratso,
5836he was the worst.
5837
58381329
583901:16:42,889 --> 01:16:45,517
5840He dressed like Dylan,
5841he tried to talk like Dylan,
5842
58431330
584401:16:45,601 --> 01:16:47,561
5845always trying to ingratiate himself.
5846
58471331
584801:16:47,644 --> 01:16:49,104
5849He thought he was Hunter Thompson
5850
58511332
585201:16:49,187 --> 01:16:51,481
5853just because he was writing
5854for <i>Rolling Stone.</i>
5855
58561333
585701:16:51,565 --> 01:16:54,276
5858He didn't want anyone else
5859with vision around.
5860
58611334
586201:16:55,235 --> 01:16:57,338
5863Did he wind up
5864causing problems for you?
5865
58661335
586701:16:57,362 --> 01:16:58,363
5868Please.
5869
58701336
587101:16:58,655 --> 01:17:01,450
5872Does the cockroach really cause problems
5873for the house?
5874
58751337
587601:17:01,700 --> 01:17:03,368
5877No, it's just a nuisance.
5878
58791338
588001:17:03,702 --> 01:17:05,871
5881Van Dorp was an unusual guy.
5882
58831339
588401:17:06,455 --> 01:17:09,416
5885He's one of those kind of people
5886who's trying to... just needs an enemy.
5887
58881340
588901:17:09,499 --> 01:17:10,499
5890And...
5891
58921341
589301:17:10,542 --> 01:17:13,420
5894uh, he was trying to make enemies
5895where there weren't any,
5896
58971342
589801:17:13,670 --> 01:17:16,256
5899and, uh, he... he was...
5900
59011343
590201:17:16,340 --> 01:17:17,966
5903he was successful at that.
5904
59051344
590601:17:20,052 --> 01:17:23,764
5907He... He angered a lot...
5908lots of people, especially in catering.
5909
59101345
591101:17:23,847 --> 01:17:26,975
5912He would eat two or three, uh, meals
5913
59141346
591501:17:27,142 --> 01:17:30,437
5916that really...
5917really were for somebody else.
5918
59191347
592001:17:31,813 --> 01:17:34,441
5921So, he ate more than he was supposed to,
5922
59231348
592401:17:35,025 --> 01:17:36,985
5925and I think... and I think he...
5926
59271349
592801:17:39,529 --> 01:17:43,950
5929...uh, I think he stuck his nose in places
5930it might've should not have been.
5931
59321350
593301:17:45,661 --> 01:17:47,496
5934He was also a very paranoid person.
5935
59361351
593701:17:48,246 --> 01:17:50,540
5938Complained to people
5939that his room was bugged.
5940
59411352
594201:17:51,708 --> 01:17:54,961
5943Uh, which, you know,
5944McGuinn was on that tour,
5945
59461353
594701:17:55,170 --> 01:18:00,384
5948and McGuinn who at that point was into,
5949uh, very sophisticated electronics.
5950
59511354
595201:18:00,467 --> 01:18:02,469
5953So I'm not saying it wasn't bugged but...
5954
59551355
595601:18:03,261 --> 01:18:05,430
5957but I'm not saying that it was bugged,
5958
59591356
596001:18:05,514 --> 01:18:07,099
5961because I don't know that for a fact.
5962
59631357
596401:18:07,182 --> 01:18:09,267
5965All tickets are $8.50 a ticket.
5966
59671358
596801:18:10,018 --> 01:18:11,937
5969What were the audiences like...
5970
59711359
597201:18:12,020 --> 01:18:13,105
5973that you played to?
5974
59751360
597601:18:15,357 --> 01:18:17,609
5977Well, they would all be...
5978
59791361
598001:18:18,652 --> 01:18:19,820
5981hysterically happy.
5982
59831362
598401:18:20,404 --> 01:18:22,155
5985So, I mean, you can't really judge much
5986
59871363
598801:18:22,239 --> 01:18:24,282
5989from saying,
5990"What would the audiences be like?"
5991
59921364
599301:18:24,366 --> 01:18:27,536
5994They would all be people who would've
5995slit each other's throats to get there.
5996
59971365
599801:18:32,624 --> 01:18:35,877
5999What a lovely couple!
6000
60011366
600201:18:38,422 --> 01:18:41,466
6003- Don't make myths. A couple of what?
6004- A couple of what?
6005
60061367
600701:18:52,519 --> 01:18:57,190
6008♪ <i>They say ev'rything can be replaced ♪</i>
6009
60101368
601101:19:00,444 --> 01:19:04,322
6012<i>♪ That ev'ry distance is not near ♪</i>
6013
60141369
601501:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,872
6016<i>♪ So I remember ev'ry face ♪</i>
6017
60181370
601901:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,045
6020♪ <i>Of ev'ry man who put me here ♪</i>
6021
60221371
602301:19:19,588 --> 01:19:21,757
6024Joan Baez
6025and me could sing anything.
6026
60271372
602801:19:22,632 --> 01:19:24,551
6029We could sing together in our sleep.
6030
60311373
603201:19:25,427 --> 01:19:26,553
6033As a matter of fact,
6034
60351374
603601:19:27,095 --> 01:19:29,931
6037lot of times when I was sleeping,
6038I'd hear her voice.
6039
60401375
604101:19:32,142 --> 01:19:35,896
6042<i>♪ Yonder down here in this lonely crowd ♪</i>
6043
60441376
604501:19:39,649 --> 01:19:43,904
6046<i>♪ Is a man who swears he's not to blame ♪</i>
6047
60481377
604901:19:47,491 --> 01:19:51,953
6050<i>♪ All day long I hear him shouting loud ♪</i>
6051
60521378
605301:19:54,790 --> 01:19:59,044
6054<i>♪ Crying out that he been framed ♪</i>
6055
60561379
605701:20:01,630 --> 01:20:03,006
6058<i>♪ I see my light... ♪</i>
6059
60601380
606101:20:03,131 --> 01:20:05,133
6062Joan was so courageous.
6063
60641381
606501:20:06,092 --> 01:20:07,092
6066Self-disciplined.
6067
60681382
606901:20:08,011 --> 01:20:11,264
6070When I first met her, it seemed like
6071she'd come down to Earth from a meteorite.
6072
60731383
607401:20:11,890 --> 01:20:12,890
6075And she's never changed.
6076
60771384
607801:20:12,933 --> 01:20:15,852
6079She always seems like she's just come down
6080from a meteorite.
6081
60821385
608301:20:20,482 --> 01:20:23,318
6084You had no reservations
6085about going on tour?
6086
60871386
608801:20:24,152 --> 01:20:25,152
6089Well...
6090
60911387
609201:20:25,654 --> 01:20:27,030
6093Sure.
6094
60951388
609601:20:27,781 --> 01:20:28,781
6097I mean...
6098
60991389
610001:20:29,533 --> 01:20:34,579
6101I think it probably sounded like... fun,
6102but I also had experienced Dylan,
6103
61041390
610501:20:34,913 --> 01:20:38,500
6106and, you know, how much fun
6107that can be on any tour or not.
6108
61091391
611001:20:38,959 --> 01:20:39,959
6111So, um...
6112
61131392
611401:20:40,418 --> 01:20:43,630
6115But I think, know... knowing
6116that it was gonna be a lot of people,
6117
61181393
611901:20:43,713 --> 01:20:46,842
6120and I was gonna have my own family
6121with me...
6122
61231394
612401:20:51,638 --> 01:20:54,391
6125It sounded exciting, you know.
6126
61271395
612801:21:04,401 --> 01:21:06,027
6129I had my own freedom...
6130
61311396
613201:21:06,111 --> 01:21:09,865
6133to sing and dance in a way
6134that I didn't do on my own stage.
6135
61361397
613701:21:16,830 --> 01:21:18,766
6138Maybe there wasn't enough
6139for her to do
6140
61411398
614201:21:18,790 --> 01:21:20,470
6143and she'd begin to go a little stir-crazy.
6144
61451399
614601:21:20,500 --> 01:21:21,500
6147Started doing, uh...
6148
61491400
615001:21:21,710 --> 01:21:25,422
6151boogaloo and hanging out with people
6152maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with,
6153
61541401
615501:21:25,505 --> 01:21:26,506
6156and, um...
6157
61581402
615901:21:27,299 --> 01:21:28,299
6160Ugh.
6161
61621403
616301:21:29,593 --> 01:21:30,927
6164I don't know what happened.
6165
61661404
616701:21:32,387 --> 01:21:34,890
6168Boy, sitting right next to Bob Dylan, man.
6169Whew.
6170
61711405
617201:21:34,973 --> 01:21:37,017
6173I got a light if you got a smoke.
6174
61751406
617601:21:37,726 --> 01:21:40,103
6177One time,
6178I got all dressed up as Bob,
6179
61801407
618101:21:40,186 --> 01:21:41,855
6182which I would do periodically.
6183
61841408
618501:21:42,063 --> 01:21:45,567
6186I used to put these little beard markings
6187all over and have a mustache on.
6188
61891409
619001:21:45,901 --> 01:21:48,028
6191And then I'd put his hat on
6192
61931410
619401:21:48,570 --> 01:21:49,863
6195and some whiteface.
6196
61971411
619801:21:50,155 --> 01:21:52,240
6199♪ <i>All the time you dress so fine ♪</i>
6200
62011412
620201:21:53,617 --> 01:21:56,745
6203♪ <i>Threw the bums a dime in your prime... ♪</i>
6204
62051413
620601:21:56,828 --> 01:21:59,623
6207I walked over with nobody really
6208paying attention,
6209
62101414
621101:21:59,706 --> 01:22:01,166
6212and I'd be Bob.
6213
62141415
621501:22:01,666 --> 01:22:05,003
6216And there was this table of,
6217like, food and catering and coffee,
6218
62191416
622001:22:05,337 --> 01:22:07,213
6221and Louie was there, and I said...
6222
62231417
622401:22:07,297 --> 01:22:09,257
6225"Handsome, give me some coffee."
6226
62271418
622801:22:09,966 --> 01:22:12,552
6229Instantly,
6230people got me some coffee like that.
6231
62321419
623301:22:13,136 --> 01:22:16,014
6234"D'you want this? D'you want this?
6235You want milk? Do you want sugar?"
6236
62371420
623801:22:16,097 --> 01:22:18,934
6239And I just had a cigarette in my hand,
6240going like that,
6241
62421421
624301:22:19,017 --> 01:22:21,019
6244and they treated me
6245the way they treat Bob.
6246
62471422
624801:22:21,102 --> 01:22:23,102
6249"D'you want this? D'you want that?
6250What can we do?"
6251
62521423
625301:22:23,146 --> 01:22:24,272
6254It was amazing.
6255
62561424
625701:22:24,981 --> 01:22:27,859
6258It was amazing
6259until finally I said something like,
6260
62611425
626201:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,196
6263"Oh, for Christ sake, Louie."
6264And then he realized.
6265
62661426
626701:22:31,279 --> 01:22:34,366
6268Oh, yeah, and I had a little wig on
6269with my hair coming out underneath it.
6270
62711427
627201:22:34,658 --> 01:22:36,910
6273Terrible.
6274
62751428
627601:22:40,330 --> 01:22:43,625
6277It's like the court of Henry VIII
6278or something, you know?
6279
62801429
628101:22:43,833 --> 01:22:46,836
6282Who's Anne Boleyn, you know?
6283Which one is gonna get the ax, you know?
6284
62851430
628601:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,465
6287You know what I mean?
6288You know, there's that kind of dynamic.
6289
62901431
629101:22:50,548 --> 01:22:52,884
6292And people are maneuvering to get closer,
6293
62941432
629501:22:52,968 --> 01:22:55,804
6296and then there are the people
6297who are using you to maneuver.
6298
62991433
630001:22:56,137 --> 01:22:58,974
6301David Mansfield wanted to sing a song
6302with me, uh...
6303
63041434
630501:22:59,182 --> 01:23:00,934
6306Ugh. God.
6307
63081435
630901:23:01,226 --> 01:23:03,687
6310That, uh, a drummer did.
6311
63121436
631301:23:03,812 --> 01:23:06,022
6314I didn't see what the point of it all was.
6315
63161437
631701:23:07,691 --> 01:23:11,069
6318- What does makeup do for you?
6319- I don't know.
6320
63211438
632201:23:11,152 --> 01:23:13,780
6323Just hides, you know, the ugliness
6324a little bit.
6325
63261439
632701:23:16,032 --> 01:23:19,828
6328Everyone, of course, you know,
6329wanted their shot,
6330
63311440
633201:23:19,911 --> 01:23:21,454
6333wanted their time in the sun.
6334
63351441
633601:23:22,330 --> 01:23:24,582
6337But we all know that, you know,
6338you have to...
6339
63401442
634101:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,543
6342give for the good of the show.
6343
63441443
634501:23:26,668 --> 01:23:28,753
6346And it was such an honor to be there,
6347
63481444
634901:23:29,838 --> 01:23:31,297
6350so that was no problem.
6351
63521445
635301:23:36,094 --> 01:23:38,739
6354Who were the people
6355you were closest with on the tour?
6356
63571446
635801:23:38,763 --> 01:23:41,558
6359I know this sounds funny,
6360but I felt close to Bob.
6361
63621447
636301:23:42,058 --> 01:23:45,145
6364I just always felt close to him
6365from the moment I met him.
6366
63671448
636801:23:45,353 --> 01:23:48,273
6369Um, I'm sure many people
6370that feel that way.
6371
63721449
637301:23:49,107 --> 01:23:50,108
6374Um...
6375
63761450
637701:23:50,942 --> 01:23:54,070
6378I know Mick Ronson told me, however,
6379when I said, um...
6380
63811451
638201:23:54,988 --> 01:23:57,308
6383you know, "Don't you love Bob?"
6384and he said, "I don't know.
6385
63861452
638701:23:57,365 --> 01:23:58,616
6388He's never spoken to me."
6389
63901453
639101:24:00,118 --> 01:24:03,371
6392Um, and then once we were
6393in Massachusetts,
6394
63951454
639601:24:03,913 --> 01:24:05,540
6397and people were about to arrive.
6398
63991455
640001:24:05,623 --> 01:24:08,501
6401I don't know who they were,
6402but not our little group.
6403
64041456
640501:24:09,002 --> 01:24:12,380
6406Bob and I were alone in the basement,
6407and Bob said, "Ronee, help."
6408
64091457
641001:24:12,714 --> 01:24:13,923
6411And I said, "Help what?"
6412
64131458
641401:24:15,175 --> 01:24:19,137
6415And... And I felt so bad about that
6416afterwards because I didn't mean to be...
6417
64181459
641901:24:19,846 --> 01:24:23,850
6420cruel or thoughtless to Bob,
6421but I always thought, you know,
6422
64231460
642401:24:23,933 --> 01:24:25,935
6425I had to treat him
6426just like a regular person
6427
64281461
642901:24:26,019 --> 01:24:27,896
6430if I were going to be friends with him.
6431
64321462
643301:24:29,814 --> 01:24:33,777
6434But later on, I understood a little more
6435what he might be asking help for.
6436
64371463
643801:24:34,027 --> 01:24:35,421
6439What was he asking help for?
6440
64411464
644201:24:35,445 --> 01:24:37,280
6443I think the onslaught of strangers.
6444
64451465
644601:24:39,157 --> 01:24:41,076
6447Hello, take my picture, please!
6448
64491466
645001:24:41,493 --> 01:24:42,577
6451Hiya, man.
6452
64531467
645401:24:47,957 --> 01:24:52,796
6455I was in the park
6456with another one of my modeling jobs.
6457
64581468
645901:24:53,421 --> 01:24:55,461
6460Of course, the whole park is full
6461of everybody doing
6462
64631469
646401:24:55,507 --> 01:24:59,511
6465whatever they're doing,
6466and suddenly I hear, "Hey, Kiss,"
6467
64681470
646901:24:59,928 --> 01:25:01,888
6470and I'm just, of course, mortified.
6471
64721471
647301:25:01,971 --> 01:25:03,389
6474And then I realize...
6475
64761472
647701:25:03,973 --> 01:25:05,350
6478that it's him.
6479
64801473
648101:25:05,767 --> 01:25:08,436
6482So, of course, I'm even more mortified.
6483
64841474
648501:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,065
6486I think I met her with her mother.
6487
64881475
648901:25:12,190 --> 01:25:13,316
6490She was a nice girl.
6491
64921476
649301:25:13,608 --> 01:25:14,608
6494Uh...
6495
64961477
649701:25:15,527 --> 01:25:17,278
6498She was so young, anyway, you know.
6499
65001478
650101:25:18,822 --> 01:25:20,323
6502But she seemed old for her age.
6503
65041479
650501:25:22,575 --> 01:25:24,869
6506Everybody wants
6507to be a movie star...
6508
65091480
651001:25:25,036 --> 01:25:26,036
6511don't they?
6512
65131481
651401:25:26,955 --> 01:25:29,749
6515But, you know, when you live
6516in the middle of nowhere,
6517
65181482
651901:25:29,833 --> 01:25:32,594
6520when you tell somebody you wanna be
6521a movie star, they think you're...
6522
65231483
652401:25:33,294 --> 01:25:34,294
6525insane.
6526
65271484
652801:25:36,005 --> 01:25:38,133
6529She, uh, used to tell me,
6530
65311485
653201:25:38,216 --> 01:25:40,718
6533uh, someday
6534she's going to be a famous actress.
6535
65361486
653701:25:41,511 --> 01:25:42,511
6538Uh, okay.
6539
65401487
654101:25:43,263 --> 01:25:45,807
6542A couple of days later he said, um...
6543
65441488
654501:25:47,183 --> 01:25:48,268
6546"You know, hey...
6547
65481489
654901:25:49,686 --> 01:25:53,439
6550how about if you just
6551come on the road with us?"
6552
65531490
655401:25:55,275 --> 01:25:58,319
6555And I thought, "And do what?"
6556
65571491
655801:26:01,030 --> 01:26:03,658
6559"You know, you could help out
6560with the costumes
6561
65621492
656301:26:03,741 --> 01:26:06,369
6564and help out backstage and stuff."
6565
65661493
656701:26:07,453 --> 01:26:10,123
6568- "Just Like a Woman."
6569- What?
6570
65711494
657201:26:10,540 --> 01:26:12,750
6573- "Just Like a Woman"?
6574- Yeah!
6575
65761495
657701:26:12,834 --> 01:26:15,314
6578- Do we know that song?
6579- I don't know, we could fake it.
6580
65811496
658201:26:15,378 --> 01:26:17,422
6583It was one of the first shows.
6584
65851497
658601:26:18,256 --> 01:26:20,717
6587- I was backstage.
6588- ...we'll try it.
6589
65901498
659101:26:21,050 --> 01:26:23,261
6592Joan Baez had asked me to iron her shirt.
6593
65941499
659501:26:24,387 --> 01:26:27,682
6596A second later I hear, "Hey... Sharon."
6597
65981500
659901:26:28,766 --> 01:26:32,854
6600And there was this, um,
6601really decrepit old piano
6602
66031501
660401:26:32,937 --> 01:26:37,650
6605shoved off to the side,
6606and Bob was kinda hunched over it.
6607
66081502
660901:26:37,942 --> 01:26:40,069
6610And he gives me that... that look.
6611
66121503
661301:26:41,613 --> 01:26:44,324
6614He's like, "I wrote a song about you."
6615
66161504
661701:26:44,824 --> 01:26:49,746
6618<i>♪ Nobody feels any pain ♪</i>
6619
66201505
662101:26:52,248 --> 01:26:57,003
6622<i>♪ Tonight as I stand inside the rain ♪</i>
6623
66241506
662501:26:58,254 --> 01:27:00,131
6626And then he gets to the line...
6627
66281507
662901:27:00,840 --> 01:27:06,179
6630<i>♪ And she makes love just like a woman ♪</i>
6631
66321508
663301:27:08,014 --> 01:27:10,141
6634<i>♪ But she breaks ♪</i>
6635
66361509
663701:27:10,767 --> 01:27:16,439
6638<i>♪ Just like a little girl ♪</i>
6639
66401510
664101:27:18,608 --> 01:27:23,738
6642I just broke out crying. You know?
6643Full-on tears.
6644
66451511
664601:27:23,947 --> 01:27:26,991
6647I get... I think T Bone's the one
6648who told me that the song was...
6649
66501512
665101:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,619
6652ten years old.
6653
66541513
665501:27:29,953 --> 01:27:31,287
6656"Just Like a Woman."
6657
66581514
665901:27:31,371 --> 01:27:33,289
6660Yeah!
6661
66621515
666301:27:33,748 --> 01:27:35,083
6664What's just like a woman?
6665
66661516
666701:27:35,375 --> 01:27:36,626
6668What's just like a woman?
6669
66701517
667101:27:36,751 --> 01:27:39,379
6672Nothin' like a woman.
6673
66741518
667501:27:45,510 --> 01:27:46,970
6676Do a protest song!
6677
66781519
667901:27:51,933 --> 01:27:53,393
6680Yeah, here's the one for you.
6681
66821520
668301:28:19,252 --> 01:28:24,257
6684<i>♪ Oh, sister, when I come
6685To lie in your arms ♪</i>
6686
66871521
668801:28:26,426 --> 01:28:31,055
6689<i>♪ You should not treat me
6690Like a stranger ♪</i>
6691
66921522
669301:28:33,599 --> 01:28:39,439
6694<i>♪ Our Father would not like
6695The way that you act ♪</i>
6696
66971523
669801:28:40,732 --> 01:28:45,778
6699<i>♪ And you must realize the danger ♪</i>
6700
67011524
670201:29:16,601 --> 01:29:21,356
6703<i>♪ Oh, sister, am I not a brother to you ♪</i>
6704
67051525
670601:29:23,733 --> 01:29:29,072
6707<i>♪ And one deserving of affection? ♪</i>
6708
67091526
671001:29:31,032 --> 01:29:36,371
6711<i>♪ And is our purpose not the same
6712On this earth ♪</i>
6713
67141527
671501:29:38,122 --> 01:29:43,169
6716<i>♪ To love and follow His direction? ♪</i>
6717
67181528
671901:30:13,491 --> 01:30:15,952
6720<i>♪ We grew up together ♪</i>
6721
67221529
672301:30:16,244 --> 01:30:19,205
6724<i>♪ From the cradle to the grave ♪</i>
6725
67261530
672701:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,959
6728<i>♪ We died and were reborn ♪</i>
6729
67301531
673101:30:23,167 --> 01:30:30,133
6732<i>♪ And then mysteriously saved ♪</i>
6733
67341532
673501:30:35,972 --> 01:30:41,185
6736<i>♪ Oh, sister, when I come
6737To knock on your door ♪</i>
6738
67391533
674001:30:42,937 --> 01:30:48,025
6741<i>♪ Don't turn away, you'll create sorrow ♪</i>
6742
67431534
674401:30:49,944 --> 01:30:55,241
6745<i>♪ Time is an ocean
6746But it ends at the shore ♪</i>
6747
67481535
674901:30:56,993 --> 01:31:01,622
6750<i>♪ You may not see me tomorrow ♪</i>
6751
67521536
675301:31:40,786 --> 01:31:42,830
6754Bob Dylan for president!
6755
67561537
675701:31:45,500 --> 01:31:47,084
6758President of what?
6759
67601538
676101:31:49,587 --> 01:31:52,131
6762Was he in a special mode
6763of singing at that time?
6764
67651539
676601:31:52,215 --> 01:31:54,175
6767Was he different
6768than you'd seen him before?
6769
67701540
677101:31:54,258 --> 01:31:56,385
6772It was... There was
6773a Rolling Thunder energy.
6774
67751541
677601:31:57,053 --> 01:32:00,223
6777That was his invention, you know,
6778and all these people showed up.
6779
67801542
678101:32:00,848 --> 01:32:01,848
6782So, yeah.
6783
67841543
678501:32:05,186 --> 01:32:07,706
6786- What do you got, Larry?
6787- The tour was very open-ended,
6788
67891544
679001:32:07,730 --> 01:32:10,066
6791so whatever city they went to,
6792
67931545
679401:32:10,358 --> 01:32:12,485
6795if there was a local friend and musician,
6796
67971546
679801:32:12,777 --> 01:32:14,820
6799there would be a slot for them
6800to come up and play.
6801
68021547
680301:32:14,904 --> 01:32:17,573
6804For example, uh, in Connecticut,
6805Joni Mitchell...
6806
68071548
680801:32:18,157 --> 01:32:20,076
6809came up, did a couple of songs,
6810
68111549
681201:32:20,368 --> 01:32:22,928
6813and loved it so much that she stayed on
6814for the rest of the tour.
6815
68161550
681701:32:22,954 --> 01:32:25,289
6818She just became part of the...
6819this experience.
6820
68211551
682201:32:30,753 --> 01:32:32,880
6823How did you two end up on the road?
6824
68251552
682601:32:32,964 --> 01:32:34,483
6827- I don't know...
6828- I came through Allen.
6829
68301553
683101:32:34,507 --> 01:32:36,133
6832She came through Allen Ginsberg.
6833
68341554
683501:32:36,467 --> 01:32:39,428
6836Um... I had finished a project and...
6837
68381555
683901:32:40,137 --> 01:32:40,972
6840was, you know,
6841
68421556
684301:32:41,055 --> 01:32:42,765
6844in a kind of a postnatal state
6845
68461557
684701:32:42,848 --> 01:32:45,560
6848and wanted to come and see a concert,
6849
68501558
685101:32:45,643 --> 01:32:48,312
6852and, uh, got sucked into it.
6853
68541559
685501:32:48,396 --> 01:32:50,982
6856You know, just shelved everything that...
6857
68581560
685901:32:51,524 --> 01:32:54,652
6860Everything else seemed, uh,
6861minorly important
6862
68631561
686401:32:54,735 --> 01:32:56,988
6865compared to this, like, as an experience,
6866
68671562
686801:32:57,071 --> 01:33:01,033
6869and an experiment in communal existence.
6870You know?
6871
68721563
687301:33:01,909 --> 01:33:02,952
6874What do you think?
6875
68761564
687701:33:03,035 --> 01:33:05,454
6878I think you've gotta come on the stage
6879right now.
6880
68811565
688201:33:05,538 --> 01:33:06,956
6883Okay, I'm coming.
6884
68851566
688601:33:08,374 --> 01:33:11,252
6887<i>♪ Ah ♪</i>
6888
68891567
689001:33:21,846 --> 01:33:24,724
6891Some days, I'd see it
6892as this kind of allegorical thing
6893
68941568
689501:33:24,807 --> 01:33:29,228
6896or as this group of pilgrims
6897on a kind of journey and quest.
6898
68991569
690001:33:29,312 --> 01:33:32,857
6901Of course, you... you know, you...
6902the deal is you find yourself back home,
6903
69041570
690501:33:32,940 --> 01:33:34,900
6906but you have to take this whole journey.
6907
69081571
690901:33:35,443 --> 01:33:38,487
6910And then when you open it up to, you know,
6911here you are in America,
6912
69131572
691401:33:38,571 --> 01:33:41,824
6915and... and all the things
6916that Bob seemed to care about
6917
69181573
691901:33:41,907 --> 01:33:44,493
6920in terms of these other...
6921the... the folk culture
6922
69231574
692401:33:44,577 --> 01:33:46,245
6925is getting thrown in there.
6926
69271575
692801:33:48,497 --> 01:33:50,708
6929And that's another weave.
6930This sort of...
6931
69321576
693301:33:50,791 --> 01:33:54,211
6934This... This American yearning for,
6935I don't know, redemption.
6936
69371577
693801:33:55,838 --> 01:34:00,092
6939<i>♪...circle be unbroken ♪</i>
6940
69411578
694201:34:00,176 --> 01:34:04,555
6943<i>♪ By and by, Lord, by and by ♪</i>
6944
69451579
694601:34:05,556 --> 01:34:06,724
6947<i>♪ There's a better... ♪</i>
6948
69491580
695001:34:06,807 --> 01:34:10,394
6951Columbus didn't discover America.
6952There were people here already.
6953
69541581
695501:34:10,811 --> 01:34:14,440
6956Even though they stole most everything
6957they could get their hands on.
6958
69591582
696001:34:15,483 --> 01:34:20,029
6961Our land, children,
6962women, whatever, they took it.
6963
69641583
696501:34:20,821 --> 01:34:22,615
6966Left us very poor people.
6967
69681584
696901:34:22,865 --> 01:34:25,368
6970A lot of our people homeless
6971in our own country.
6972
69731585
697401:34:26,285 --> 01:34:28,162
6975But the best things of all,
6976
69771586
697801:34:29,038 --> 01:34:30,331
6979that they had no value,
6980
69811587
698201:34:30,915 --> 01:34:32,458
6983was our way of life.
6984
69851588
698601:34:40,466 --> 01:34:43,594
6987It's beautiful music
6988when that thunder rolls.
6989
69901589
699101:34:44,845 --> 01:34:46,764
6992And that's the way I got my name.
6993
69941590
699501:34:47,431 --> 01:34:50,726
6996I used to scream like a little eagle
6997is what they told me.
6998
69991591
700001:34:50,893 --> 01:34:54,897
7001Even when I was a baby in diapers,
7002run right out in the storm.
7003
70041592
700501:34:55,690 --> 01:34:56,690
7006Yeah, I love it.
7007
70081593
700901:34:57,233 --> 01:35:00,945
7010And that lightning flash,
7011there's a lot of power in it, I tell you.
7012
70131594
701401:35:03,572 --> 01:35:06,012
7015This tour was named after
7016Chief Rolling Thunder.
7017
70181595
701901:35:06,450 --> 01:35:11,539
7020So, it made sense that we go
7021to the Tuscarora Indian Reservation and...
7022
70231596
702401:35:12,957 --> 01:35:13,957
7025and play.
7026
70271597
702801:35:14,083 --> 01:35:15,876
7029We're gonna let our guests get their food.
7030
70311598
703201:35:16,210 --> 01:35:19,797
7033I was just told it's gonna be
7034cafeteria style.
7035
70361599
703701:35:20,506 --> 01:35:22,883
7038Bob was seated
7039right across the table from me,
7040
70411600
704201:35:22,967 --> 01:35:23,967
7043and he said,
7044
70451601
704601:35:24,009 --> 01:35:28,389
7047"You remember Peter's song
7048about Ira Hayes?"
7049
70501602
705101:35:29,348 --> 01:35:33,018
7052And even today,
7053there are things to write about...
7054
70551603
705601:35:34,019 --> 01:35:36,188
7057for a cowboy, and I'm a cowboy.
7058
70591604
706001:35:36,772 --> 01:35:38,858
7061An Indian, and I'm part Indian.
7062
70631605
706401:35:39,108 --> 01:35:40,568
7065Or a human being.
7066
70671606
706801:35:41,402 --> 01:35:43,654
7069This is a song about a human being,
7070
70711607
707201:35:45,156 --> 01:35:46,741
7073who is also an Indian.
7074
70751608
707601:35:49,326 --> 01:35:51,412
7077And if you don't remember his name,
7078
70791609
708001:35:52,371 --> 01:35:55,416
7081I think you may after this song.
7082
70831610
708401:35:55,583 --> 01:35:58,461
7085It's called Ira Hayes.
7086
70871611
708801:36:04,925 --> 01:36:08,262
7089- Where would you want me to stand?
7090<i>- </i>Anywhere you want. It'll be all right.
7091
70921612
709301:36:31,911 --> 01:36:35,831
7094<i>♪ Come gather 'round me, people
7095And a story I will tell ♪</i>
7096
70971613
709801:36:36,791 --> 01:36:40,836
7099<i>♪ About Ira Hayes, an Indian
7100You should remember well ♪</i>
7101
71021614
710301:36:41,962 --> 01:36:46,425
7104<i>♪ From the tribe of Pima Indians
7105A proud and a peaceful band ♪</i>
7106
71071615
710801:36:47,259 --> 01:36:51,263
7109<i>♪ They farmed the Phoenix Valley
7110In the Arizona land ♪</i>
7111
71121616
711301:36:52,807 --> 01:36:57,603
7114<i>♪ Down their ditches for a thousand years
7115The running water rushed ♪</i>
7116
71171617
711801:36:57,853 --> 01:37:00,439
7119<i>♪ Till the white man
7120Stole the water rights ♪</i>
7121
71221618
712301:37:00,523 --> 01:37:02,483
7124<i>♪ And the running water hushed ♪</i>
7125
71261619
712701:37:05,402 --> 01:37:10,491
7128<i>♪ Now Ira's folks were hungry
7129And their farms grew crops of weeds ♪</i>
7130
71311620
713201:37:11,325 --> 01:37:16,580
7133<i>♪ But when war came, Ira volunteered
7134And forgot the white man's greed ♪</i>
7135
71361621
713701:37:17,581 --> 01:37:22,086
7138<i>♪ Now they started up Iwo Jima hill
7139With two hundred and fifty men ♪</i>
7140
71411622
714201:37:22,837 --> 01:37:27,174
7143<i>♪ But only twenty-seven lived
7144To walk back down that hill again ♪</i>
7145
71461623
714701:37:27,758 --> 01:37:32,012
7148<i>♪ And when the fight was over
7149And Old Glory raised ♪</i>
7150
71511624
715201:37:32,763 --> 01:37:36,892
7153<i>♪ One of the men that held it high
7154Was the Indian Ira Hayes ♪</i>
7155
71561625
715701:37:37,810 --> 01:37:40,521
7158<i>♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪</i>
7159
71601626
716101:37:40,604 --> 01:37:42,606
7162<i>♪ He won't answer anymore ♪</i>
7163
71641627
716501:37:43,357 --> 01:37:45,484
7166<i>♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪</i>
7167
71681628
716901:37:45,568 --> 01:37:47,945
7170<i>♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪</i>
7171
71721629
717301:37:48,737 --> 01:37:51,323
7174<i>♪ Call him drunken Ira Hayes ♪</i>
7175
71761630
717701:37:51,407 --> 01:37:53,701
7178<i>♪ He won't answer anymore ♪</i>
7179
71801631
718101:37:54,368 --> 01:37:56,579
7182<i>♪ Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian ♪</i>
7183
71841632
718501:37:56,745 --> 01:37:59,456
7186<i>♪ Or the Marine that went to war ♪</i>
7187
71881633
718901:38:00,666 --> 01:38:03,794
7190This is a United States
7191diplomatic medal.
7192
71931634
719401:38:04,461 --> 01:38:06,297
7195It has... It has, uh...
7196
71971635
719801:38:07,339 --> 01:38:12,177
7199an Indian and the first diplomatic team
7200of... of the United States,
7201
72021636
720301:38:12,553 --> 01:38:17,725
7204was given in Philadelphia
7205on July the 4th, 1776.
7206
72071637
720801:38:18,559 --> 01:38:21,270
7209Also, been told that there's a possibility
7210
72111638
721201:38:21,562 --> 01:38:23,731
7213that these could be the same beads,
7214
72151639
721601:38:23,856 --> 01:38:26,734
7217these, uh, larger ones, that Peter Minuit
7218
72191640
722001:38:27,484 --> 01:38:30,571
7221traded the...
7222our people for Manhattan Island.
7223
72241641
722501:38:30,654 --> 01:38:33,115
7226Will you accept this?
7227
72281642
722901:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,619
7230Thanks for everything.
7231What do you say, folks?
7232
72331643
723401:38:38,996 --> 01:38:40,796
7235But somewhere along the line,
7236
72371644
723801:38:40,831 --> 01:38:42,291
7239something has failed, and...
7240
72411645
724201:38:42,458 --> 01:38:46,170
7243we hope that this country
7244can straighten out before too long,
7245
72461646
724701:38:46,253 --> 01:38:49,590
7248because there are many things
7249that's going to happen to shape
7250
72511647
725201:38:49,673 --> 01:38:51,508
7253not only this country but the world.
7254
72551648
725601:38:53,135 --> 01:38:54,135
7257Bob.
7258
72591649
726001:38:55,137 --> 01:38:56,889
7261What you... You guys still here?
7262
72631650
726401:38:58,349 --> 01:39:00,309
7265Can I ask just one question?
7266
72671651
726801:39:06,565 --> 01:39:09,652
7269<i>♪ William Zanzinger
7270Killed poor Hattie Carroll ♪</i>
7271
72721652
727301:39:10,319 --> 01:39:13,989
7274<i>♪ With a cane that he twirled
7275Round his diamond ring finger ♪</i>
7276
72771653
727801:39:14,281 --> 01:39:17,701
7279<i>♪ At a Baltimore hotel
7280Society gath'rin' ♪</i>
7281
72821654
728301:39:18,285 --> 01:39:21,914
7284<i>♪ And the cops were called in
7285And his weapon took from him ♪</i>
7286
72871655
728801:39:22,247 --> 01:39:25,960
7289<i>♪ As they rode him in custody
7290Down to the station ♪</i>
7291
72921656
729301:39:26,043 --> 01:39:30,255
7294<i>♪ And booked William Zanzinger
7295For first-degree murder ♪</i>
7296
72971657
729801:39:33,133 --> 01:39:36,971
7299♪ <i>Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace ♪</i>
7300
73011658
730201:39:37,054 --> 01:39:39,974
7303<i>♪ And criticize all fear ♪</i>
7304
73051659
730601:39:41,225 --> 01:39:45,020
7307<i>♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪</i>
7308
73091660
731001:39:45,312 --> 01:39:48,732
7311<i>♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪</i>
7312
73131661
731401:39:54,279 --> 01:39:58,659
7315Everything is forgiven
7316whenever I would see Bob sing.
7317
73181662
731901:39:59,743 --> 01:40:01,078
7320It is so...
7321
73221663
732301:40:01,495 --> 01:40:02,830
7324the charisma...
7325
73261664
732701:40:03,914 --> 01:40:06,291
7328that he has, I've never seen anywhere,
7329
73301665
733101:40:06,917 --> 01:40:08,293
7332before or since.
7333
73341666
733501:40:09,169 --> 01:40:12,047
7336And the beauty of those songs...
7337
73381667
733901:40:13,924 --> 01:40:14,925
7340I don't.
7341
73421668
734301:40:15,134 --> 01:40:17,553
7344Jack Kerouac, uh, writes like ticker tape.
7345
73461669
734701:40:18,554 --> 01:40:20,681
7348I used to see you write like ticker tape.
7349
73501670
735101:40:21,640 --> 01:40:25,227
7352I used to feed you salad and red wine
7353while you wrote like ticker tape.
7354
73551671
735601:40:25,811 --> 01:40:26,687
7357Yeah, I remember.
7358
73591672
736001:40:26,770 --> 01:40:28,856
7361Brilliant stuff. William Zanzinger.
7362
73631673
736401:40:29,064 --> 01:40:31,150
7365Overlooking the Pacific.
7366
73671674
736801:40:31,859 --> 01:40:34,069
7369The wild Pacific Ocean in Big Sur, right?
7370
73711675
737201:40:34,153 --> 01:40:36,030
7373- William Zanzinger.
7374- Where was that written?
7375
73761676
737701:40:36,113 --> 01:40:38,741
7378"Hattie Carroll." One of the best songs
7379I think you ever wrote.
7380
73811677
738201:40:38,824 --> 01:40:40,544
7383I think it's one of the best songs
7384you sing.
7385
73861678
738701:40:40,576 --> 01:40:43,579
7388Thank you.
7389How come you take it on the stage now?
7390
73911679
739201:40:43,954 --> 01:40:46,123
7393'Cause you won't sing it.
7394
73951680
739601:40:47,249 --> 01:40:48,249
7397Oh, Bob.
7398
73991681
740001:40:49,251 --> 01:40:50,251
7401Sure, I will.
7402
74031682
740401:40:51,211 --> 01:40:52,796
7405Just 'cause I screwed up the words.
7406
74071683
740801:40:53,047 --> 01:40:54,927
7409- Well, it really...
7410- How do you like my dress?
7411
74121684
741301:40:54,965 --> 01:40:57,676
7414...displeases me that you...
7415that you went off and got married
7416
74171685
741801:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,011
7419and... and, uh...
7420
74211686
742201:41:00,637 --> 01:41:03,140
7423You went off and got married first
7424and didn't tell me.
7425
74261687
742701:41:03,682 --> 01:41:05,684
7428Yeah, but...
7429
74301688
743101:41:09,188 --> 01:41:12,399
7432- You should have told me or something.
7433- But I married the woman I loved.
7434
74351689
743601:41:12,483 --> 01:41:13,483
7437I know, that's true.
7438
74391690
744001:41:14,568 --> 01:41:17,404
7441That's true.
7442And I married the man I thought I loved.
7443
74441691
744501:41:22,284 --> 01:41:24,244
7446See, that's what thought
7447has to do with it.
7448
74491692
745001:41:24,328 --> 01:41:25,829
7451Thought will fuck you up.
7452
74531693
745401:41:27,206 --> 01:41:28,540
7455You're right. I agree with that.
7456
74571694
745801:41:28,624 --> 01:41:30,876
7459See, it's heart, it's not... it's not head.
7460
74611695
746201:41:39,718 --> 01:41:42,221
7463<i>♪ Hattie Carroll was
7464A maid of the kitchen ♪</i>
7465
74661696
746701:41:42,638 --> 01:41:46,225
7468<i>♪ She was fifty-one years old
7469And gave birth to ten children ♪</i>
7470
74711697
747201:41:46,725 --> 01:41:50,521
7473<i>♪ She cleaned up the dishes
7474Hauled out the garbage ♪</i>
7475
74761698
747701:41:50,896 --> 01:41:53,816
7478<i>♪ And never sat once
7479At the head of the table ♪</i>
7480
74811699
748201:41:54,608 --> 01:41:57,945
7483<i>♪ She just cleaned up
7484All the food from the table ♪</i>
7485
74861700
748701:41:58,529 --> 01:42:01,824
7488<i>♪ And emptied the ashtrays
7489On a whole other level ♪</i>
7490
74911701
749201:42:02,282 --> 01:42:06,078
7493<i>♪ Got killed by a blow
7494Lay slain by a cane ♪</i>
7495
74961702
749701:42:06,245 --> 01:42:09,915
7498<i>♪ That sailed through the air
7499And came down through the room ♪</i>
7500
75011703
750201:42:10,290 --> 01:42:13,794
7503<i>♪ Doomed and determined
7504To destroy all the gentle ♪</i>
7505
75061704
750701:42:14,002 --> 01:42:17,881
7508<i>♪ And she never done nothing
7509To William Zanzinger ♪</i>
7510
75111705
751201:42:20,801 --> 01:42:27,516
7513<i>♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace
7514And criticize all fears ♪</i>
7515
75161706
751701:42:28,809 --> 01:42:32,771
7518<i>♪ Take the rag away from your face ♪</i>
7519
75201707
752101:42:32,855 --> 01:42:36,066
7522<i>♪ Now ain't the time for your tears ♪</i>
7523
75241708
752501:43:00,007 --> 01:43:03,552
7526<i>♪ In the courtroom of honor
7527The judge pounded his gavel ♪</i>
7528
75291709
753001:43:04,094 --> 01:43:07,681
7531<i>♪ To show that all's equal
7532And that the courts are on the level ♪</i>
7533
75341710
753501:43:07,890 --> 01:43:11,310
7536<i>♪ That the strings in the books
7537Ain't pulled and persuaded ♪</i>
7538
75391711
754001:43:11,852 --> 01:43:15,480
7541<i>♪ And that even the nobles
7542Get properly handled ♪</i>
7543
75441712
754501:43:15,856 --> 01:43:19,484
7546<i>♪ Once that the cops
7547Have chased after and caught 'em ♪</i>
7548
75491713
755001:43:19,735 --> 01:43:22,946
7551<i>♪ That the ladder of law
7552Has no top and no bottom ♪</i>
7553
75541714
755501:43:23,655 --> 01:43:27,326
7556<i>♪ Stared at the person
7557Who killed for no reason ♪</i>
7558
75591715
756001:43:27,492 --> 01:43:31,288
7561<i>♪ Who just happened to be feelin'
7562That way without warnin' ♪</i>
7563
75641716
756501:43:31,455 --> 01:43:35,375
7566<i>♪ And he spoke through his cloak
7567So deep and distinguished ♪</i>
7568
75691717
757001:43:35,709 --> 01:43:39,171
7571<i>♪ Handed out strongly
7572For penalty and repentance ♪</i>
7573
75741718
757501:43:39,421 --> 01:43:43,383
7576<i>♪ William Zanzinger
7577With a six-month sentence ♪</i>
7578
75791719
758001:43:46,011 --> 01:43:49,806
7581<i>♪ Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace</i> ♪
7582
75831720
758401:43:49,932 --> 01:43:52,851
7585<i>♪ And criticize all fear ♪</i>
7586
75871721
758801:43:54,186 --> 01:43:57,814
7589<i>♪ Bury the rag deep in your face ♪</i>
7590
75911722
759201:43:58,148 --> 01:44:01,151
7593<i>♪ Now is the time for your tears ♪</i>
7594
75951723
759601:44:25,092 --> 01:44:27,678
7597<i>♪ But sleep won't come ♪</i>
7598
75991724
760001:44:29,388 --> 01:44:31,515
7601<i>♪ The whole night through ♪</i>
7602
76031725
760401:44:33,642 --> 01:44:37,646
7605<i>♪ Your cheatin' heart ♪</i>
7606
76071726
760801:44:37,938 --> 01:44:39,898
7609<i>♪ Will tell on you ♪</i>
7610
76111727
761201:44:42,317 --> 01:44:45,570
7613<i>♪ You'll walk the floor ♪</i>
7614
76151728
761601:44:46,655 --> 01:44:49,241
7617<i>♪ And shout my name ♪</i>
7618
76191729
762001:44:50,951 --> 01:44:52,470
7621<i>The hours are creeping down.</i>
7622
76231730
762401:44:52,494 --> 01:44:55,122
7625<i>- We got to get the story.
7626- I'm getting it!</i>
7627
76281731
762901:44:55,205 --> 01:44:58,417
7630<i>I'm only up all fuckin' night
7631when the hours are creeping down.</i>
7632
76331732
763401:44:59,042 --> 01:45:01,104
7635<i>Well, I mean,
7636you had two fuckin' weeks, Larry.</i>
7637
76381733
763901:45:01,128 --> 01:45:01,962
7640<i>To do what?</i>
7641
76421734
764301:45:02,045 --> 01:45:05,275
7644- <i>To get a story, instead of...
7645- I gave you a story, I gave you...</i>
7646
76471735
764801:45:05,299 --> 01:45:07,426
7649<i>That had a lot
7650of fuckin' holes in it.</i>
7651
76521736
765301:45:07,509 --> 01:45:09,988
7654- <i>Well, but you're a bureaucrat.
7655- Oh, bullshit.</i>
7656
76571737
765801:45:10,012 --> 01:45:11,948
7659<i>- Where do you get that crap?
7660- You ask...</i>
7661
76621738
766301:45:11,972 --> 01:45:13,932
7664<i>You </i>are <i>a bureaucrat.
7665You ask me fuckin'...</i>
7666
76671739
766801:45:14,016 --> 01:45:15,934
7669<i>uh, </i>Wall Street Journal <i>questions.</i>
7670
76711740
767201:45:16,018 --> 01:45:18,037
7673<i>- Bullshit.
7674- Those are the questions...</i>
7675
76761741
767701:45:18,061 --> 01:45:19,831
7678<i>Everybody in the fuckin' country
7679wants to know...</i>
7680
76811742
768201:45:19,855 --> 01:45:23,066
7683<i>You're asking me
7684music business questions, man.</i>
7685
76861743
768701:45:23,483 --> 01:45:24,711
7688<i>That's part of it, isn't it?</i>
7689
76901744
769101:45:24,735 --> 01:45:26,462
7692<i>But that's not
7693what the kids wanna read.</i>
7694
76951745
769601:45:26,486 --> 01:45:29,281
7697- <i>How do you know?
7698- I know kids, man! I ask them.</i>
7699
77001746
770101:45:29,364 --> 01:45:33,118
7702<i>♪...and call my name ♪</i>
7703
77041747
770501:45:33,201 --> 01:45:36,288
7706<i>Rolling Stone </i>magazine
7707was interested in the economics,
7708
77091748
771001:45:36,371 --> 01:45:38,290
7711how much are these people getting paid...
7712
77131749
771401:45:38,373 --> 01:45:41,084
7715You know, why are they playing
7716bigger halls as the tour went on?
7717
77181750
771901:45:41,168 --> 01:45:43,128
7720Those were the kind of questions
7721they were asking,
7722
77231751
772401:45:43,211 --> 01:45:44,651
7725and I didn't give a shit about that.
7726
77271752
772801:45:44,713 --> 01:45:48,717
7729I mean, what I was concerned with was,
7730you know, chronicling this...
7731
77321753
773301:45:49,593 --> 01:45:51,470
7734this, uh, cultural event.
7735
77361754
773701:45:52,846 --> 01:45:55,182
7738- Can I offer you a beer?
7739- Sure.
7740
77411755
774201:45:57,184 --> 01:45:58,935
7743- There we go.
7744- Thank you.
7745
77461756
774701:46:00,312 --> 01:46:02,689
7748There ain't too many Medicis
7749around these days,
7750
77511757
775201:46:03,065 --> 01:46:06,276
7753and whether you're out on the road
7754with a lot of people,
7755
77561758
775701:46:06,360 --> 01:46:07,652
7758or you're making a movie,
7759
77601759
776101:46:07,736 --> 01:46:11,031
7762or any kind of creative endeavor
7763that takes resources,
7764
77651760
776601:46:11,865 --> 01:46:12,865
7767you need money.
7768
77691761
777001:46:12,949 --> 01:46:15,410
7771And you gotta go to somebody
7772who believes
7773
77741762
777501:46:15,494 --> 01:46:18,497
7776that they're gonna get their money back
7777and maybe a little more.
7778
77791763
778001:46:18,580 --> 01:46:21,583
7781So, yeah,
7782there's always this natural tension
7783
77841764
778501:46:21,666 --> 01:46:22,918
7786between art and commerce.
7787
77881765
778901:46:23,001 --> 01:46:25,063
7790Okay, how 'bout...
7791We gotta cut one of Jack's.
7792
77931766
779401:46:25,087 --> 01:46:28,232
7795- He says to cut "Muleskinner."
7796- He wants to cut "Muleskinner."
7797
77981767
779901:46:28,256 --> 01:46:30,217
7800All right. Okay.
7801
78021768
780301:46:31,051 --> 01:46:32,719
7804I'll talk to Bob about this.
7805
78061769
780701:46:33,720 --> 01:46:36,515
7808- All right, Allen's gonna do something?
7809- Five minutes. Very brief.
7810
78111770
781201:46:36,598 --> 01:46:39,410
7813You got a whole different audience.
7814Did you look at those people?
7815
78161771
781701:46:39,434 --> 01:46:42,354
7818They're not familiar with Dylan or Baez
7819or anybody else.
7820
78211772
782201:46:42,437 --> 01:46:43,271
7823Right.
7824
78251773
782601:46:43,355 --> 01:46:45,715
7827If you go up and spill poetry
7828for any length of time,
7829
78301774
783101:46:45,774 --> 01:46:47,734
7832they're gonna be, you know, gone,
7833you know?
7834
78351775
783601:46:47,818 --> 01:46:49,319
7837Make it two minutes, Allen.
7838
78391776
784001:46:49,403 --> 01:46:51,238
7841Two minutes is plenty,
7842I'm telling you.
7843
78441777
784501:46:51,321 --> 01:46:52,864
7846- Okay.
7847- What about more cuts?
7848
78491778
785001:46:52,948 --> 01:46:54,866
7851- Two minutes.
7852- We're still cutting.
7853
78541779
785501:46:54,950 --> 01:46:57,202
7856The show was originally
7857three hours.
7858
78591780
786001:46:57,285 --> 01:47:00,372
7861Ginsberg, who appeared
7862in the show originally,
7863
78641781
786501:47:00,997 --> 01:47:04,584
7866there was not enough time for him
7867to perform during the show,
7868
78691782
787001:47:04,668 --> 01:47:06,711
7871so his section was cut.
7872
78731783
787401:47:10,715 --> 01:47:13,760
7875He and Peter Orlovsky
7876became the baggage handlers.
7877
78781784
787901:47:15,137 --> 01:47:18,807
7880We would put our bags outside the door,
7881and he would take them every day.
7882
78831785
788401:47:19,641 --> 01:47:21,059
7885You're a fuckin' luggage handler?
7886
78871786
788801:47:21,143 --> 01:47:23,645
7889- God, yeah, and I give massages sometimes.
7890- You're a poet!
7891
78921787
789301:47:23,728 --> 01:47:26,314
7894I make myself useful around, on the, uh...
7895
78961788
789701:47:27,023 --> 01:47:31,403
7898Uh... helping Chris with the newsletter
7899and putting out the newsletter.
7900
79011789
790201:47:31,486 --> 01:47:32,904
7903- You do errands?
7904- Errands, right.
7905
79061790
790701:47:32,988 --> 01:47:34,531
7908I can't believe this shit.
7909
79101791
791101:47:34,614 --> 01:47:37,367
7912What kind of tour is this?
7913You're a fuckin' great poet, Peter.
7914
79151792
791601:47:37,451 --> 01:47:40,871
7917I'm learning... Been practicing banjo,
7918and I've been sitting every morning...
7919
79201793
792101:47:40,954 --> 01:47:44,166
7922Uh, tomorrow morning, we're gonna sit
7923with Allen for one hour.
7924
79251794
792601:47:44,249 --> 01:47:46,585
7927- To do what?
7928- After we wake up, sit and meditate.
7929
79301795
793101:47:49,087 --> 01:47:51,423
7932At a party
7933at Gordon Lightfoot's house,
7934
79351796
793601:47:51,506 --> 01:47:52,966
7937Toronto, Canada.
7938
79391797
794001:48:19,117 --> 01:48:22,496
7941Joni Mitchell, she would go out
7942and do her new songs.
7943
79441798
794501:48:22,579 --> 01:48:23,872
7946She wouldn't do any hits.
7947
79481799
794901:48:24,289 --> 01:48:27,459
7950And the audience reaction
7951was a little sort of muted
7952
79531800
795401:48:27,542 --> 01:48:28,835
7955for these new songs,
7956
79571801
795801:48:28,919 --> 01:48:31,421
7959as it usually is when artists
7960try to do new songs.
7961
79621802
796301:48:31,505 --> 01:48:33,548
7964And I remember,
7965she came off and she said,
7966
79671803
796801:48:33,632 --> 01:48:36,927
7969"McGuinn, I don't know why
7970I'm so scared out there. I just don't..."
7971
79721804
797301:48:37,010 --> 01:48:38,553
7974I said, "You're just doing new songs.
7975
79761805
797701:48:38,637 --> 01:48:40,437
7978You ought to do something
7979that they recognize,
7980
79811806
798201:48:40,514 --> 01:48:42,349
7983and then they'll, you know, loosen up."
7984
79851807
798601:48:42,432 --> 01:48:45,727
7987She said, "No, no, I... I can't do that.
7988I think that's a bad idea."
7989
79901808
799101:48:52,025 --> 01:48:56,196
7992I admired her for her courage
7993to do the new stuff only.
7994
79951809
799601:48:58,615 --> 01:49:00,909
7997Joni wrote this song
7998about this tour,
7999
80001810
800101:49:00,992 --> 01:49:03,370
8002and on this tour, and for this tour.
8003
80041811
800501:49:23,014 --> 01:49:24,182
8006Okay, D-minor now.
8007
80081812
800901:49:28,603 --> 01:49:30,063
8010Yeah, some dissonance.
8011
80121813
801301:49:31,356 --> 01:49:37,153
8014I had been loudly proclaiming
8015that my three favorite male songwriters
8016
80171814
801801:49:37,529 --> 01:49:40,156
8019were Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen,
8020and Kinky Friedman.
8021
80221815
802301:49:40,949 --> 01:49:45,870
8024So, Jonistarted interrogating me
8025backstage one day, saying,
8026
80271816
802801:49:46,621 --> 01:49:48,206
8029"What do you mean, male?
8030
80311817
803201:49:48,290 --> 01:49:50,458
8033Why do you make that distinction,
8034male songwriters?
8035
80361818
803701:49:50,542 --> 01:49:52,210
8038I mean, what about my stuff?
8039
80401819
804101:49:52,419 --> 01:49:55,338
8042I mean, don't you characterize my stuff,
8043like, you know,
8044
80451820
804601:49:55,422 --> 01:49:57,882
8047in the same league as Bob
8048and Leonard Cohen?"
8049
80501821
805101:50:00,552 --> 01:50:02,637
8052And we got into
8053this long discussion about,
8054
80551822
805601:50:02,721 --> 01:50:06,182
8057well, the male versus female perspective,
8058and anima-animus,
8059
80601823
806101:50:06,266 --> 01:50:08,810
8062and, you know, male-female dynamic,
8063and everything, you know.
8064
80651824
806601:50:08,893 --> 01:50:12,731
8067But it became this long,
8068drawn-out confrontation,
8069
80701825
807101:50:12,814 --> 01:50:14,274
8072and we bonded on that.
8073
80741826
807501:50:15,442 --> 01:50:17,152
8076<i>♪ No regrets, Coyote ♪</i>
8077
80781827
807901:50:17,861 --> 01:50:20,905
8080<i>♪ We just come from such different sets
8081Of circumstance ♪</i>
8082
80831828
808401:50:20,989 --> 01:50:22,699
8085<i>♪ I'm up all night in the studios ♪</i>
8086
80871829
808801:50:22,782 --> 01:50:26,453
8089<i>♪ And you're up early on your ranch ♪</i>
8090
80911830
809201:50:26,995 --> 01:50:29,289
8093<i>♪ Brushing out a broodmare's tail ♪</i>
8094
80951831
809601:50:29,456 --> 01:50:31,041
8097<i>♪ While the sun is ascending ♪</i>
8098
80991832
810001:50:31,124 --> 01:50:34,961
8101<i>♪ And I'll just be getting home
8102With my reel-to-reel ♪</i>
8103
81041833
810501:50:35,545 --> 01:50:37,255
8106<i>♪ There's no comprehending ♪</i>
8107
81081834
810901:50:38,006 --> 01:50:40,425
8110<i>♪ Just how close
8111To the bone and the skin ♪</i>
8112
81131835
811401:50:40,675 --> 01:50:43,428
8115<i>♪ And the eyes and the lips you can get ♪</i>
8116
81171836
811801:50:43,887 --> 01:50:46,389
8119<i>♪ And still feel so alone ♪</i>
8120
81211837
812201:50:46,931 --> 01:50:49,059
8123<i>♪ And still feel related ♪</i>
8124
81251838
812601:50:49,517 --> 01:50:51,519
8127<i>♪ Like stations in a relay ♪</i>
8128
81291839
813001:50:51,936 --> 01:50:54,939
8131<i>♪ You're not a hit-and-run driver
8132No, no ♪</i>
8133
81341840
813501:50:55,565 --> 01:50:57,150
8136<i>♪ Racing away ♪</i>
8137
81381841
813901:50:58,234 --> 01:51:00,070
8140<i>♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪</i>
8141
81421842
814301:51:00,654 --> 01:51:05,408
8144<i>♪ A prisoner of the white lines
8145On the freeway ♪</i>
8146
81471843
814801:51:15,418 --> 01:51:17,462
8149<i>♪ We saw a farmhouse burning down ♪</i>
8150
81511844
815201:51:18,296 --> 01:51:21,007
8153<i>♪ In the middle of nowhere
8154In the middle of the night ♪</i>
8155
81561845
815701:51:21,132 --> 01:51:23,343
8158<i>♪ And we rolled right past that tragedy ♪</i>
8159
81601846
816101:51:23,551 --> 01:51:26,346
8162<i>♪ Till we came to some roadside lights ♪</i>
8163
81641847
816501:51:26,638 --> 01:51:29,015
8166<i>♪ And a local band was playing ♪</i>
8167
81681848
816901:51:29,099 --> 01:51:32,185
8170<i>♪ Locals were mincin'
8171And shakin' on the floor ♪</i>
8172
81731849
817401:51:32,477 --> 01:51:33,978
8175<i>♪ The next thing I know ♪</i>
8176
81771850
817801:51:35,271 --> 01:51:36,815
8179<i>♪ That Coyote's at my door ♪</i>
8180
81811851
818201:51:37,899 --> 01:51:40,694
8183<i>♪ And he pins me in a corner
8184And he won't take no ♪</i>
8185
81861852
818701:51:41,111 --> 01:51:42,946
8188<i>♪ He drags me out on the dance floor ♪</i>
8189
81901853
819101:51:43,029 --> 01:51:46,032
8192<i>♪ And we're dancin' close and slow ♪</i>
8193
81941854
819501:51:46,366 --> 01:51:48,493
8196<i>♪ He's got a woman at home ♪</i>
8197
81981855
819901:51:48,827 --> 01:51:52,080
8200<i>♪ One for the night
8201And now he wants one for the day ♪</i>
8202
82031856
820401:51:52,414 --> 01:51:56,501
8205<i>♪ Oh, why'd you have to get so drunk
8206And lead me on that way? ♪</i>
8207
82081857
820901:51:57,711 --> 01:51:59,629
8210<i>♪ You just picked up a hitcher ♪</i>
8211
82121858
821301:52:00,296 --> 01:52:04,467
8214<i>♪ A prisoner of the white lines
8215And the freeway ♪</i>
8216
82171859
821801:52:32,954 --> 01:52:34,581
8219Let's call Hopper, man.
8220
82211860
822201:52:34,664 --> 01:52:36,458
8223Fuck yeah.
8224Let me change channels.
8225
82261861
822701:52:36,541 --> 01:52:38,251
8228Why do you have that?
8229
82301862
823101:52:38,334 --> 01:52:39,878
8232What are you on, channel 31?
8233
82341863
823501:52:39,961 --> 01:52:41,796
8236- Uh, give me, uh...
8237- Okay.
8238
82391864
824001:52:42,005 --> 01:52:42,839
8241Okay.
8242
82431865
824401:52:42,922 --> 01:52:45,967
8245<i>♪ I took my troubles
8246Down to Madame Rue ♪</i>
8247
82481866
824901:52:46,885 --> 01:52:49,971
8250<i>♪ You know that gypsy
8251With the gold-capped tooth ♪</i>
8252
82531867
825401:52:50,555 --> 01:52:53,892
8255<i>♪ She's got a pad
8256Down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine ♪</i>
8257
82581868
825901:52:54,392 --> 01:52:59,564
8260<i>♪ Sellin' little bottles
8261Of Love Potion Number Nine ♪</i>
8262
82631869
826401:52:59,647 --> 01:53:01,065
8265What poetry is,
8266
82671870
826801:53:01,941 --> 01:53:04,861
8269the natural object, where we are now,
8270
82711871
827201:53:04,944 --> 01:53:06,696
8273is always adequate symbol,
8274
82751872
827601:53:06,780 --> 01:53:09,616
8277so you don't have
8278to invent romantic myths,
8279
82801873
828101:53:10,033 --> 01:53:12,702
8282diamond dancers on oceansides.
8283
82841874
828501:53:13,953 --> 01:53:18,124
8286The scratching of the pen
8287or the noise in the back of the bar
8288
82891875
829001:53:18,541 --> 01:53:19,667
8291is part of the music.
8292
82931876
829401:53:21,211 --> 01:53:24,756
8295<i>♪ She bent down, turned around
8296And gave me a wink ♪</i>
8297
82981877
829901:53:25,006 --> 01:53:28,384
8300<i>♪ She said, "I'm gonna mix it up
8301Right here in the sink" ♪</i>
8302
83031878
830401:53:28,718 --> 01:53:30,553
8305<i>♪ It smelled like turpentine... ♪</i>
8306
83071879
830801:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,848
8309I've never had more faith in America
8310
83111880
831201:53:34,516 --> 01:53:35,558
8313than I do today.
8314
83151881
831601:53:36,351 --> 01:53:37,644
8317We have an America
8318
83191882
832001:53:38,186 --> 01:53:39,896
8321that, in Bob Dylan's phrase,
8322
83231883
832401:53:40,438 --> 01:53:42,190
8325is busy being born,
8326
83271884
832801:53:43,525 --> 01:53:44,776
8329not busy dying.
8330
83311885
833201:53:48,154 --> 01:53:50,990
8333I was very enamored
8334of Jimmy Carter.
8335
83361886
833701:53:51,074 --> 01:53:54,994
8338He... I thought he was a really soulful,
8339interesting guy,
8340
83411887
834201:53:55,078 --> 01:53:56,246
8343and he liked me.
8344
83451888
834601:53:56,788 --> 01:53:59,874
8347So, you know, Imaintained
8348a relationship with him for a long time.
8349
83501889
835101:53:59,958 --> 01:54:01,167
8352And he's the guy
8353
83541890
835501:54:01,709 --> 01:54:05,338
8356who got me into the Rolling Thunder
8357concert that night.
8358
83591891
836001:54:05,547 --> 01:54:06,756
8361Jimmy Carter.
8362
83631892
836401:54:07,340 --> 01:54:08,508
8365Which is another story.
8366
83671893
836801:54:09,467 --> 01:54:13,137
8369I was... I was one of the youngest members
8370of the Congress.
8371
83721894
837301:54:13,221 --> 01:54:14,931
8374And so I was, um...
8375
83761895
837701:54:16,140 --> 01:54:19,269
8378Yeah, I mean,
8379I was torn between two generations there.
8380
83811896
838201:54:19,352 --> 01:54:22,480
8383I was being pulled in both...
8384You know, you want to get anything done,
8385
83861897
838701:54:22,564 --> 01:54:24,691
8388you have to get along
8389with people in the Congress.
8390
83911898
839201:54:24,858 --> 01:54:28,361
8393You know, you don't get anything done
8394anymore because nobody wants to, but...
8395
83961899
839701:54:28,736 --> 01:54:30,905
8398in my day you, you know,
8399you made an effort
8400
84011900
840201:54:31,155 --> 01:54:32,365
8403to get along with these guys.
8404
84051901
840601:54:32,448 --> 01:54:34,492
8407And most of them were considerably older
8408than I was.
8409
84101902
841101:54:34,576 --> 01:54:38,413
8412And Dylan was considered the enemy,
8413really, by a lot of these guys.
8414
84151903
841601:54:38,746 --> 01:54:41,541
8417I had grown up in this era where,
8418you know, you wanted to be an adult,
8419
84201904
842101:54:41,624 --> 01:54:44,085
8422you wanted to drink a martini
8423with your dad, you know.
8424
84251905
842601:54:44,168 --> 01:54:45,211
8427And now...
8428
84291906
843001:54:45,503 --> 01:54:48,131
8431you know, "Never trust anybody over 30."
8432Right?
8433
84341907
843501:54:48,214 --> 01:54:51,092
8436And I'm caught in the middle of this,
8437and I'm dealing in the Congress
8438
84391908
844001:54:51,175 --> 01:54:52,760
8441with all these old guys, and...
8442
84431909
844401:54:52,927 --> 01:54:55,555
8445You know, it's an interesting conundrum.
8446
84471910
844801:54:56,598 --> 01:54:59,518
8449<i>My own
8450interest in the criminal justice system</i>
8451
84521911
845301:54:59,601 --> 01:55:00,935
8454<i>is very heartfelt.</i>
8455
84561912
845701:55:01,436 --> 01:55:03,646
8458<i>One of the sources
8459for my understanding about</i>
8460
84611913
846201:55:03,771 --> 01:55:05,523
8463<i>what's right and wrong in this society</i>
8464
84651914
846601:55:05,607 --> 01:55:08,318
8467<i>is from a personal,
8468very close friend of mine</i>
8469
84701915
847101:55:08,693 --> 01:55:10,653
8472<i>a great poet named Bob Dylan.</i>
8473
84741916
847501:55:11,696 --> 01:55:15,199
8476<i>After listening to his records
8477about "The Ballad of Hattie Carroll"</i>
8478
84791917
848001:55:15,283 --> 01:55:17,160
8481<i>and "Like a Rolling Stone,"</i>
8482
84831918
848401:55:17,744 --> 01:55:23,666
8485<i>I've learned to appreciate the dynamism
8486of change in a modern society.</i>
8487
84881919
848901:55:24,542 --> 01:55:27,587
8490<i>I grew up as a landowner's son,</i>
8491
84921920
849301:55:27,962 --> 01:55:31,132
8494<i>but I don't think I ever realized
8495that the proper interrelationship</i>
8496
84971921
849801:55:31,215 --> 01:55:33,968
8499<i>between the landowner
8500and those who worked on a farm</i>
8501
85021922
850301:55:34,385 --> 01:55:36,846
8504<i>until I heard Dylan's record,</i>
8505
85061923
850701:55:36,930 --> 01:55:39,349
8508<i>"I Ain't Gonna Work On Maggie's Farm
8509No More."</i>
8510
85111924
851201:55:40,433 --> 01:55:42,953
8513So I went to this meeting,
8514I believe it was in Atlanta.
8515
85161925
851701:55:43,478 --> 01:55:47,690
8518Jimmy was there,
8519and he and I spoke about a few things.
8520
85211926
852201:55:47,774 --> 01:55:51,402
8523And I can't remember exactly
8524what was left unsaid,
8525
85261927
852701:55:51,486 --> 01:55:54,072
8528but I told him that I would call him back
8529that night,
8530
85311928
853201:55:54,155 --> 01:55:56,074
8533and we were gonna finish
8534this conversation.
8535
85361929
853701:55:56,157 --> 01:55:57,700
8538I had to get to the airport.
8539
85401930
854101:55:58,201 --> 01:56:00,328
8542So I get on the flight,
8543I'm trying to get home.
8544
85451931
854601:56:00,828 --> 01:56:05,375
8547And I got caught in a storm,
8548and we got diverted to Niagara Falls.
8549
85501932
855101:56:06,042 --> 01:56:08,962
8552And I get stashed
8553in this cheesy little motel
8554
85551933
855601:56:09,045 --> 01:56:10,546
8557that the airline put us up in.
8558
85591934
856001:56:11,005 --> 01:56:12,725
8561I called Jimmy to say
8562I hadn't reached home,
8563
85641935
856501:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,009
8566but we could talk tomorrow,
8567and he said, "Where are you?"
8568
85691936
857001:56:15,093 --> 01:56:17,387
8571And I said, "I'm in Niagara Falls."
8572And he says, "Well,
8573
85741937
857501:56:17,470 --> 01:56:19,764
8576you just hit the jackpot because...
8577
85781938
857901:56:19,847 --> 01:56:22,934
8580because Bob Dylan's
8581doing this Rolling Thunder concert
8582
85831939
858401:56:23,017 --> 01:56:25,144
8585there tonight, and you can go."
8586
85871940
858801:56:25,603 --> 01:56:29,232
8589He said, "I'll call him
8590and I'll get you in."
8591
85921941
859301:56:29,691 --> 01:56:32,151
8594Dylan!
8595
85961942
859701:56:33,069 --> 01:56:34,862
8598Dylan, you're beautiful!
8599
86001943
860101:56:36,823 --> 01:56:39,325
8602<i>Uncle Sam is going to sing</i>
8603
86041944
860501:56:39,409 --> 01:56:42,537
8606<i>one of his versions
8607of "The Star-Spangled Banner."</i>
8608
86091945
861001:56:42,787 --> 01:56:43,787
8611<i>Ladies and gentlemen...</i>
8612
86131946
861401:56:43,830 --> 01:56:46,541
8615<i>I saw
8616the best minds of my generation</i>
8617
86181947
861901:56:46,624 --> 01:56:48,334
8620<i>destroyed by madness,</i>
8621
86221948
862301:56:48,418 --> 01:56:49,627
8624<i>starving hysterical...</i>
8625
86261949
862701:56:49,752 --> 01:56:52,255
8628<i>This song about a human being</i>
8629
86301950
863101:56:52,338 --> 01:56:53,589
8632<i>who is also an Indian.</i>
8633
86341951
863501:56:55,550 --> 01:56:58,803
8636- <i>"Let America be America again."
8637- And if you don't remember...</i>
8638
86391952
864001:56:58,886 --> 01:57:00,972
8641<i>"Let it be the dream it used to be."</i>
8642
86431953
864401:57:08,312 --> 01:57:09,992
8645No, I'm sorry, you... you can't...
8646
86471954
864801:57:10,023 --> 01:57:12,859
8649- Excuse me. You can't shoot in here.
8650- You need authorization.
8651
86521955
865301:57:12,942 --> 01:57:14,819
8654You cannot shoot in here, sir.
8655
86561956
865701:57:14,902 --> 01:57:17,780
8658- Why can't I shoot in here?
8659- He's running the camera.
8660
86611957
866201:57:17,864 --> 01:57:19,344
8663What organization are you from?
8664
86651958
866601:57:21,826 --> 01:57:23,494
8667Do you know
8668where you're going to?
8669
86701959
867101:57:23,578 --> 01:57:25,121
8672I don't know. You'll have to ask him.
8673
86741960
867501:57:26,539 --> 01:57:30,501
8676I'm sorry you had the hassle.
8677Uh, we didn't know you were coming.
8678
86791961
868001:57:31,335 --> 01:57:32,335
8681Obviously.
8682
86831962
868401:57:32,378 --> 01:57:34,148
8685We just happened to be
8686in the neighborhood.
8687
86881963
868901:57:34,172 --> 01:57:37,050
8690- I heard it was you.
8691- I brought a friend if you don't mind.
8692
86931964
869401:57:37,133 --> 01:57:40,011
8695No, I don't mind, but I'm sorry
8696you had any trouble downstairs.
8697
86981965
869901:57:40,094 --> 01:57:41,554
8700Uh, Irwin, this is Bob.
8701
87021966
870301:57:41,637 --> 01:57:42,847
8704- How are you?
8705- Good.
8706
87071967
870801:57:42,930 --> 01:57:44,182
8709But if you're looking...
8710
87111968
871201:57:45,224 --> 01:57:46,726
8713to help the guy, in effect,
8714
87151969
871601:57:46,934 --> 01:57:50,646
8717you know, and your purpose is a social one
8718rather than a record one,
8719
87201970
872101:57:51,022 --> 01:57:54,275
8722then I think it probably would make sense,
8723you know, to comment, you know, early.
8724
87251971
872601:57:54,358 --> 01:57:56,986
8727You know what I'm saying?
8728I don't know what your motivations are.
8729
87301972
873101:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,840
8732You're kind of throwing it out
8733and I haven't given a lot of thought.
8734
87351973
873601:57:59,864 --> 01:58:01,532
8737I think there's a Top 40 AM problem.
8738
87391974
874001:58:01,616 --> 01:58:05,453
8741Conversely,
8742there may be a lot of black radio play,
8743
87441975
874501:58:05,536 --> 01:58:06,954
8746for example, in the east.
8747
87481976
874901:58:07,205 --> 01:58:09,916
8750- Or you make it AM play.
8751- So WWRL would...
8752
87531977
875401:58:09,999 --> 01:58:12,835
8755It's a Bob Dylan statement,
8756that it is unique.
8757
87581978
875901:58:12,919 --> 01:58:14,271
8760Whoever wants to play it can play it,
8761
87621979
876301:58:14,295 --> 01:58:15,975
8764but the idea is he wants it
8765on the streets,
8766
87671980
876801:58:16,005 --> 01:58:18,257
8769so people can do with it what they want.
8770
87711981
877201:58:18,341 --> 01:58:19,842
8773But with those caveats,
8774
87751982
877601:58:19,926 --> 01:58:22,970
8777your motivation is to try to do
8778what you can for the guy,
8779
87801983
878101:58:23,054 --> 01:58:25,454
8782then it probably makes sense
8783to do it as quickly as possible.
8784
87851984
878601:58:25,515 --> 01:58:27,809
8787- That's the motivation.
8788- Uh...
8789
87901985
879101:58:27,892 --> 01:58:31,104
8792<i>♪ Pistol shots ring out
8793In a barroom night ♪</i>
8794
87951986
879601:58:31,646 --> 01:58:35,358
8797<i>♪ Enter Patty Valentine
8798From the upper hall ♪</i>
8799
88001987
880101:58:35,775 --> 01:58:39,028
8802<i>♪ She sees the bartender
8803In a pool of blood ♪</i>
8804
88051988
880601:58:39,612 --> 01:58:43,199
8807<i>♪ Cries out, "My God
8808They killed them all"... ♪</i>
8809
88101989
881101:58:43,282 --> 01:58:46,452
8812If they can get it out on the street
8813in a week that's, you know, that's good.
8814
88151990
881601:58:46,536 --> 01:58:47,995
8817That's what they were talking about.
8818
88191991
882001:58:49,122 --> 01:58:52,041
8821Rubin Carter
8822was an amazing boxer,
8823
88241992
882501:58:52,125 --> 01:58:53,000
8826middleweight,
8827
88281993
882901:58:53,084 --> 01:58:54,794
8830who had been framed
8831
88321994
883301:58:55,419 --> 01:58:57,713
8834for a murder in New Jersey
8835
88361995
883701:58:57,797 --> 01:59:01,425
8838and was languishing now
8839in Rahway State Prison.
8840
88411996
884201:59:02,677 --> 01:59:04,277
8843Bob wrote this incredible song,
8844
88451997
884601:59:04,846 --> 01:59:08,641
8847"Hurricane," and was very concerned
8848about getting him out.
8849
88501998
885101:59:09,267 --> 01:59:12,854
8852I'd written songs about boxers before,
8853so that was nothing new, but, uh...
8854
88551999
885601:59:13,938 --> 01:59:16,357
8857I hadn't really thought about,
8858uh, Hurricane...
8859
88602000
886101:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,318
8862because I didn't know about Hurricane.
8863
88642001
886501:59:19,610 --> 01:59:20,610
8866Uh...
8867
88682002
886901:59:21,028 --> 01:59:22,028
8870It...
8871
88722003
887301:59:23,114 --> 01:59:24,949
8874It never really crossed my path.
8875
88762004
887701:59:26,367 --> 01:59:27,967
8878I got the book. I read it.
8879
88802005
888101:59:27,994 --> 01:59:30,997
8882Um, I, you know, made a mental note
8883that if I was coming east,
8884
88852006
888601:59:31,080 --> 01:59:33,249
8887or if I was east, I would, uh, visit him.
8888
88892007
889001:59:33,499 --> 01:59:36,294
8891We were there for, you know,
8892most of the day,
8893
88942008
889501:59:36,377 --> 01:59:37,628
8896as far as I can remember.
8897
88982009
889901:59:37,837 --> 01:59:40,923
8900Uh, we got there in the morning
8901and then left him when it was dark.
8902
89032010
890401:59:41,757 --> 01:59:43,217
8905I realized the man's philosophy
8906
89072011
890801:59:43,301 --> 01:59:46,679
8909and my philosophy were running
8910on the same road.
8911
89122012
891301:59:46,888 --> 01:59:49,765
8914You know, and, uh,
8915you don't meet too many people like that,
8916
89172013
891801:59:49,849 --> 01:59:55,062
8919you know, that you just know that kinda
8920on the same path, mentally, you know.
8921
89222014
892301:59:55,146 --> 01:59:56,272
8924Yeah.
8925
89262015
892701:59:56,355 --> 02:00:00,401
8928Dylan was different than other people
8929who came to see me.
8930
89312016
893202:00:00,776 --> 02:00:03,571
8933I mean, other people would ask
8934the obvious questions.
8935
89362017
893702:00:03,654 --> 02:00:05,198
8938"Rubin, are you guilty?"
8939
89402018
894102:00:05,573 --> 02:00:08,784
8942You know, "Did you commit this crime?"
8943"Did you do that?" You know.
8944
89452019
894602:00:08,868 --> 02:00:10,328
8947But Dylan wasn't asking that.
8948
89492020
895002:00:10,828 --> 02:00:14,373
8951Not at all. It seemed
8952like he was searching for something else.
8953
89542021
895502:00:14,665 --> 02:00:16,417
8956It was as if he was saying,
8957
89582022
895902:00:17,543 --> 02:00:18,544
8960"Who are you, man?"
8961
89622023
896302:00:19,045 --> 02:00:21,422
8964You know, "Are you what I see?"
8965
89662024
896702:00:22,590 --> 02:00:26,928
8968I had a friend of mine send me his lyrics
8969to his songs,
8970
89712025
897202:00:27,511 --> 02:00:29,138
8973and so I could read his lyrics,
8974
89752026
897602:00:29,222 --> 02:00:33,601
8977so I can get an... an idea
8978of who I'm talkin' to here, you know.
8979
89802027
898102:00:34,518 --> 02:00:35,518
8982And...
8983
89842028
898502:00:35,853 --> 02:00:39,523
8986I found something
8987that was, uh, very interesting.Very...
8988
89892029
899002:00:39,857 --> 02:00:41,234
8991That really connected us.
8992
89932030
899402:00:41,525 --> 02:00:46,280
8995Both of us were... were performers
8996and crowd-pleasers.
8997
89982031
899902:00:46,572 --> 02:00:49,033
9000You know, me with the vicious left hook,
9001
90022032
900302:00:49,825 --> 02:00:54,080
9004you know, whose parents grew up
9005in the Jim Crow South,
9006
90072033
900802:00:54,664 --> 02:01:00,378
9009and Dylan, uh, you know, with his... uh...
9010the troubadour.
9011
90122034
901302:01:00,836 --> 02:01:03,636
9014So you got back, and you had
9015the germ of an idea to do a song?
9016
90172035
901802:01:03,714 --> 02:01:04,858
9019- Yeah.
9020- Why?
9021
90222036
902302:01:04,882 --> 02:01:07,176
9024I mean, you know,
9025is this a return to protest...
9026
90272037
902802:01:07,301 --> 02:01:08,594
9029I mean...
9030
90312038
903202:01:08,678 --> 02:01:11,681
9033You know,
9034is this, uh, "Hattie Carroll" revisited?
9035
90362039
903702:01:12,932 --> 02:01:15,851
9038Um, there's an injustice
9039that has been done, you know.
9040
90412040
904202:01:15,935 --> 02:01:18,437
9043And the fact is
9044that it can happen to anybody.
9045
90462041
904702:01:18,521 --> 02:01:19,957
9048- Mm-hmm.
9049- You know?
9050
90512042
905202:01:19,981 --> 02:01:22,525
9053- And we have to be confronted with that.
9054- So... So...
9055
90562043
905702:01:23,025 --> 02:01:25,027
9058This song is called "Hurricane."
9059
90602044
906102:01:26,821 --> 02:01:28,864
9062If you got any political pull at all,
9063
90642045
906502:01:28,948 --> 02:01:31,367
9066maybe you can help us get this man
9067out of jail,
9068
90692046
907002:01:31,993 --> 02:01:33,536
9071back onto the streets.
9072
90732047
907402:01:58,477 --> 02:02:01,314
9075<i>♪ Pistol shots ring out
9076In the barroom night ♪</i>
9077
90782048
907902:02:01,814 --> 02:02:04,817
9080<i>♪ Enter Patty Valentine
9081From the outer hall ♪</i>
9082
90832049
908402:02:05,276 --> 02:02:07,987
9085<i>♪ She sees the bartender
9086In a pool of blood ♪</i>
9087
90882050
908902:02:08,279 --> 02:02:11,282
9090<i>♪ Cries out, "My God,
9091They've killed 'em all!" ♪</i>
9092
90932051
909402:02:11,949 --> 02:02:14,410
9095<i>♪ Here comes the story of the Hurricane ♪</i>
9096
90972052
909802:02:15,328 --> 02:02:17,705
9099<i>♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪</i>
9100
91012053
910202:02:18,581 --> 02:02:20,583
9103<i>♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪</i>
9104
91052054
910602:02:21,876 --> 02:02:25,421
9107<i>♪ Put in a prison cell
9108But one time he coulda been ♪</i>
9109
91102055
911102:02:25,671 --> 02:02:27,965
9112<i>♪ The champion of the world ♪</i>
9113
91142056
911502:02:36,599 --> 02:02:38,893
9116<i>♪ Three bodies lyin' there
9117Does Patty see ♪</i>
9118
91192057
912002:02:39,894 --> 02:02:43,064
9121<i>♪ And another man named Bello
9122Movin' mysteriously ♪</i>
9123
91242058
912502:02:43,189 --> 02:02:45,941
9126<i>♪ "I didn't do it," he says
9127And he throws up his hands ♪</i>
9128
91292059
913002:02:46,025 --> 02:02:49,362
9131<i>♪ "I was only robbin' the register
9132You understand ♪</i>
9133
91342060
913502:02:49,737 --> 02:02:52,323
9136<i>♪ I saw them leave, though" he says
9137And he stops ♪</i>
9138
91392061
914002:02:52,990 --> 02:02:55,618
9141<i>♪ "One of us had better
9142Call on the cops" ♪</i>
9143
91442062
914502:02:56,243 --> 02:02:58,412
9146<i>♪ And so Patty calls the cops ♪</i>
9147
91482063
914902:02:59,538 --> 02:03:03,167
9150<i>♪ And they arrive on the scene
9151With their red lights flashin' ♪</i>
9152
91532064
915402:03:03,250 --> 02:03:05,169
9155<i>♪ In the hot New Jersey night ♪</i>
9156
91572065
915802:03:14,011 --> 02:03:16,514
9159<i>♪ Meanwhile, far away
9160In another part of town ♪</i>
9161
91622066
916302:03:16,680 --> 02:03:19,892
9164<i>♪ Rubin Carter and a couple of friends
9165Are drivin' around ♪</i>
9166
91672067
916802:03:20,142 --> 02:03:23,062
9169<i>♪ Number one contender
9170For the middleweight crown ♪</i>
9171
91722068
917302:03:23,354 --> 02:03:26,524
9174<i>♪ Had no idea what kinda shit
9175Was about to go down ♪</i>
9176
91772069
917802:03:27,066 --> 02:03:29,568
9179<i>♪ When a cop pulled him over
9180To the side of the road ♪</i>
9181
91822070
918302:03:30,194 --> 02:03:33,114
9184<i>♪ Just like the time before
9185And the time before that ♪</i>
9186
91872071
918802:03:33,197 --> 02:03:35,574
9189<i>♪ In Paterson, that's the way things go ♪</i>
9190
91912072
919202:03:35,908 --> 02:03:40,079
9193<i>♪ If you're black, you might as well
9194Not show up on the streets ♪</i>
9195
91962073
919702:03:40,287 --> 02:03:42,832
9198<i>♪ 'Less you want to draw the heat ♪</i>
9199
92002074
920102:03:51,048 --> 02:03:53,634
9202<i>♪ Alfred Bello, he laid this rap
9203On the cops ♪</i>
9204
92052075
920602:03:53,717 --> 02:03:56,804
9207<i>♪ "Me and Arthur Dexter Bradley
9208Were in here prowlin' around ♪</i>
9209
92102076
921102:03:57,138 --> 02:04:00,141
9212<i>♪ We saw two men runnin' out of here
9213They looked like middleweights ♪</i>
9214
92152077
921602:04:00,433 --> 02:04:03,686
9217<i>♪ Jumped into a white car
9218With out-of-state plates" ♪</i>
9219
92202078
922102:04:04,061 --> 02:04:06,730
9222<i>♪ And Miss Patty Valentine
9223Just nodded her head ♪</i>
9224
92252079
922602:04:06,856 --> 02:04:09,608
9227<i>♪ Cop said, "Wait a minute, boys
9228This one's not dead" ♪</i>
9229
92302080
923102:04:09,692 --> 02:04:12,361
9232<i>♪ So they took him to the infirmary ♪</i>
9233
92342081
923502:04:13,612 --> 02:04:15,573
9236<i>♪ And though this man could hardly see ♪</i>
9237
92382082
923902:04:15,656 --> 02:04:19,452
9240<i>♪ They told him that he could identify
9241The guilty men ♪</i>
9242
92432083
924402:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,296
9245<i>♪ Four in the mornin'
9246And they haul Rubin in ♪</i>
9247
92482084
924902:04:30,963 --> 02:04:34,049
9250<i>♪ Took him to the hospital
9251And they brought him upstairs ♪</i>
9252
92532085
925402:04:34,133 --> 02:04:36,886
9255<i>♪ The wounded man looks up
9256Through his one dyin' eye ♪</i>
9257
92582086
925902:04:37,136 --> 02:04:40,514
9260<i>♪ Says, "Why'd you bring him in here for?
9261He ain't the guy!" ♪</i>
9262
92632087
926402:04:40,764 --> 02:04:43,184
9265<i>♪ Yes, here's the story of the Hurricane ♪</i>
9266
92672088
926802:04:44,018 --> 02:04:46,395
9269<i>♪ The man the authorities came to blame ♪</i>
9270
92712089
927202:04:47,229 --> 02:04:49,315
9273<i>♪ For somethin' that he never done ♪</i>
9274
92752090
927602:04:50,399 --> 02:04:53,652
9277<i>♪ Put in a prison cell
9278But one time he coulda been ♪</i>
9279
92802091
928102:04:54,069 --> 02:04:56,238
9282<i>♪ The champion of the world ♪</i>
9283
92842092
928502:05:04,663 --> 02:05:07,291
9286<i>♪ Four months later
9287The ghettos are in flame ♪</i>
9288
92892093
929002:05:07,625 --> 02:05:10,503
9291<i>♪ Rubin's in South America
9292Fightin' for his name ♪</i>
9293
92942094
929502:05:11,086 --> 02:05:13,756
9296<i>♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley's
9297Still in the robbery game ♪</i>
9298
92992095
930002:05:13,839 --> 02:05:15,639
9301<i>♪ And the cops are
9302Puttin' the screws to him</i> ♪
9303
93042096
930502:05:15,674 --> 02:05:17,384
9306<i>♪ Lookin' for someone to blame ♪</i>
9307
93082097
930902:05:17,593 --> 02:05:20,054
9310<i>♪ "Remember that murder
9311That happened in a bar? ♪</i>
9312
93132098
931402:05:20,763 --> 02:05:23,265
9315<i>♪ Remember you said you saw
9316The getaway car? ♪</i>
9317
93182099
931902:05:23,682 --> 02:05:26,227
9320<i>♪ You think you'd like to play ball
9321With the law? ♪</i>
9322
93232100
932402:05:26,936 --> 02:05:30,356
9325<i>♪ Think it mighta been that fighter
9326That you saw runnin' that night? ♪</i>
9327
93282101
932902:05:30,439 --> 02:05:33,817
9330<i>♪ Don't forget now, you're white" ♪</i>
9331
93322102
933302:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,911
9334<i>♪ Arthur Dexter Bradley said
9335"I'm really not sure" ♪</i>
9336
93372103
933802:05:44,328 --> 02:05:46,914
9339<i>♪ Cops said
9340"A poor boy like you could use a break ♪</i>
9341
93422104
934302:05:47,331 --> 02:05:50,626
9344<i>♪ We got you for the motel job
9345We're talkin' to your friend Bello ♪</i>
9346
93472105
934802:05:50,709 --> 02:05:54,171
9349<i>♪ You don't wanna have to go back to jail
9350Be a nice fellow ♪</i>
9351
93522106
935302:05:54,296 --> 02:05:56,882
9354<i>♪ You'll be doin' society a favor ♪</i>
9355
93562107
935702:05:57,341 --> 02:06:00,177
9358<i>♪ That son of a bitch is brave
9359And gettin' braver</i> ♪
9360
93612108
936202:06:00,553 --> 02:06:02,680
9363<i>♪ We want to put his ass in stir ♪</i>
9364
93652109
936602:06:03,764 --> 02:06:07,101
9367<i>♪ We want to pin this triple murder
9368On him ♪</i>
9369
93702110
937102:06:07,393 --> 02:06:09,853
9372<i>♪ He ain't no Gentleman Jim" ♪</i>
9373
93742111
937502:06:17,861 --> 02:06:20,614
9376<i>♪ All of Rubin's cards were marked
9377In advance ♪</i>
9378
93792112
938002:06:20,906 --> 02:06:23,826
9381<i>♪ The trial was a pig-circus
9382He never had a chance ♪</i>
9383
93842113
938502:06:24,076 --> 02:06:27,121
9386<i>♪ The judge made Rubin's witnesses
9387Drunkards from the slums ♪</i>
9388
93892114
939002:06:27,204 --> 02:06:30,416
9391<i>♪ To the white folks who watched
9392He was a revolutionary bum ♪</i>
9393
93942115
939502:06:30,749 --> 02:06:33,377
9396<i>♪ And to the black folks
9397He was just a crazy nigger ♪</i>
9398
93992116
940002:06:34,128 --> 02:06:36,547
9401<i>♪ No one doubted
9402That he pulled the trigger ♪</i>
9403
94042117
940502:06:37,172 --> 02:06:39,550
9406<i>♪ And though they could not produce
9407The gun ♪</i>
9408
94092118
941002:06:40,342 --> 02:06:43,512
9411<i>♪ The DA said he was the one
9412Who did the deed ♪</i>
9413
94142119
941502:06:43,762 --> 02:06:46,599
9416<i>♪ And the all-white jury agreed ♪</i>
9417
94182120
941902:06:54,773 --> 02:06:56,984
9420<i>♪ Rubin Carter was falsely tried ♪</i>
9421
94222121
942302:06:57,401 --> 02:07:00,279
9424<i>♪ The crime was murder one
9425Guess who testified? ♪</i>
9426
94272122
942802:07:00,946 --> 02:07:03,282
9429<i>♪ Bello and Bradley, and they both lied ♪</i>
9430
94312123
943202:07:03,741 --> 02:07:06,910
9433<i>♪ And the newspapers
9434They all went along for the ride ♪</i>
9435
94362124
943702:07:07,286 --> 02:07:09,455
9438<i>♪ How can the life of such a man ♪</i>
9439
94402125
944102:07:10,539 --> 02:07:13,000
9442<i>♪ Be in the palm of some fool's hand? ♪</i>
9443
94442126
944502:07:13,459 --> 02:07:15,753
9446<i>♪ To see him obviously framed ♪</i>
9447
94482127
944902:07:16,837 --> 02:07:20,174
9450<i>♪ Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed
9451To live in a land ♪</i>
9452
94532128
945402:07:20,507 --> 02:07:23,135
9455<i>♪ Where justice is a game ♪</i>
9456
94572129
945802:07:30,726 --> 02:07:33,687
9459<i>♪ Now all the criminals
9460In their coats and their ties... ♪</i>
9461
94622130
946302:07:34,521 --> 02:07:37,858
9464"Now all the criminals
9465in their coats and ties
9466
94672131
946802:07:37,941 --> 02:07:41,737
9469are free to drink martinis and watch the...
9470and watch the sun rise."
9471
94722132
947302:07:42,154 --> 02:07:45,282
9474"While Rubin sits like Buddha
9475in a ten-foot cell,
9476
94772133
947802:07:45,491 --> 02:07:47,534
9479an innocent man in a living hell."
9480
94812134
948202:07:47,743 --> 02:07:49,745
9483I thought that was great.
9484
94852135
948602:07:50,204 --> 02:07:53,374
9487Because the ballad of the Hurricane...
9488
94892136
949002:07:54,208 --> 02:07:59,463
9491uh, sent an indelible message
9492of justice gone awry,
9493
94942137
949502:08:00,089 --> 02:08:01,173
9496you know what I mean?
9497
94982138
949902:08:01,298 --> 02:08:02,298
9500So... So...
9501
95022139
950302:08:02,508 --> 02:08:07,388
9504Dylan doing that
9505spread the word far and wide.
9506
95072140
950802:08:10,265 --> 02:08:12,476
9509<i>♪ That's the story of the Hurricane ♪</i>
9510
95112141
951202:08:13,394 --> 02:08:15,938
9513<i>♪ But it won't be over
9514Till they clear his name ♪</i>
9515
95162142
951702:08:16,605 --> 02:08:18,774
9518<i>♪ And give him back the time he's done ♪</i>
9519
95202143
952102:08:19,692 --> 02:08:23,237
9522<i>♪ Put in a prison cell
9523But one time he coulda been ♪</i>
9524
95252144
952602:08:23,529 --> 02:08:26,532
9527<i>♪ The champion of the world ♪</i>
9528
95292145
953002:08:35,749 --> 02:08:37,376
9531Let me introduce you to everybody.
9532
95332146
953402:08:38,752 --> 02:08:41,352
9535Many of the people who came
9536to help me were white people,
9537
95382147
953902:08:41,797 --> 02:08:44,216
9540which must have surprised the authorities,
9541
95422148
954302:08:44,299 --> 02:08:47,428
9544because the authorities claimed
9545that I committed this crime
9546
95472149
954802:08:47,511 --> 02:08:49,346
9549because of my hatred for white people.
9550
95512150
955202:08:49,513 --> 02:08:51,473
9553But here's all these white folks
9554
95552151
955602:08:52,099 --> 02:08:54,435
9557coming to help this poor black man
9558
95592152
956002:08:54,643 --> 02:08:56,895
9561who's in prison for something
9562that he didn't do,
9563
95642153
956502:08:56,979 --> 02:08:59,606
9566something that he didn't do.
9567I mean, it... it was great.
9568
95692154
957002:08:59,982 --> 02:09:02,862
9571What happens if the courts
9572say no, where do you go from there?
9573
95742155
957502:09:02,943 --> 02:09:05,320
9576Are you gonna go back into the courts
9577once again?
9578
95792156
958002:09:05,404 --> 02:09:07,990
9581If the courts say no,
9582we just keep on fighting.
9583
95842157
958502:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,868
9586There's no such...
9587There's no such thing as no.
9588
95892158
959002:09:11,326 --> 02:09:12,578
9591There's just yes,
9592
95932159
959402:09:12,661 --> 02:09:15,289
9595and the road is straight ahead,
9596and we keep on going.
9597
95982160
959902:09:16,415 --> 02:09:18,083
9600Bob always been searching.
9601
96022161
960302:09:18,167 --> 02:09:22,171
9604Every time I see Bob now, and which
9605we don't see each other frequently,
9606
96072162
960802:09:22,504 --> 02:09:26,759
9609but every time I see him, I ask Bob,
9610"Have you found it yet, Bob?"
9611
96122163
961302:09:27,968 --> 02:09:29,636
9614And Bob says, "Yeah, I found it."
9615
96162164
961702:09:30,095 --> 02:09:33,849
9618But I know he hasn't,
9619'cause he keeps searching.
9620
96212165
962202:09:35,142 --> 02:09:38,187
9623He'd always say,
9624"Hey, what are you searching for today?"
9625
96262166
962702:09:38,270 --> 02:09:39,354
9628I'd say, "What?"
9629
96302167
963102:09:39,438 --> 02:09:42,191
9632He'd say, "I know you're a searcher.
9633What are you searching for?"
9634
96352168
963602:09:42,566 --> 02:09:46,528
9637I'd say, uh, "Well, Hurricane,
9638I'm searching for the Holy Grail."
9639
96402169
964102:09:46,904 --> 02:09:47,905
9642And he'd say, "What?"
9643
96442170
964502:09:48,155 --> 02:09:52,326
9646I said, "I'm gonna search until I find it,
9647like Sir Galahad."
9648
96492171
965002:09:54,453 --> 02:09:55,788
9651That's what I'm looking for.
9652
96532172
965402:09:58,749 --> 02:10:02,628
9655- Five minutes. Five minutes.
9656- Do you think he's a genius?
9657
96582173
965902:10:03,462 --> 02:10:05,005
9660Is Bob Dylan a genius?
9661
96622174
966302:10:06,423 --> 02:10:08,884
9664I don't know.
9665That's a strange word.
9666
96672175
966802:10:10,052 --> 02:10:11,052
9669Maybe.
9670
96712176
967202:10:11,220 --> 02:10:15,140
9673I think the most brilliant thing he did
9674was putting a group of highly motivated
9675
96762177
967702:10:15,349 --> 02:10:18,393
9678and ambitious people
9679on a train with no supervision,
9680
96812178
968202:10:18,602 --> 02:10:21,939
9683and then let them become
9684the most extreme versions of themselves.
9685
96862179
968702:10:22,439 --> 02:10:24,599
9688Is that how you'd describe
9689what happened?
9690
96912180
969202:10:24,650 --> 02:10:26,401
9693I know that's what happened to me.
9694
96952181
969602:10:26,527 --> 02:10:28,904
9697Let's go. Let's go.
9698
96992182
970002:10:30,364 --> 02:10:31,364
9701Let's go.
9702
97032183
970402:10:31,865 --> 02:10:34,010
9705So, why did you come here
9706to speak to me?
9707
97082184
970902:10:34,034 --> 02:10:38,497
9710Well, to try and, you know, stake my claim
9711
97122185
971302:10:38,580 --> 02:10:42,334
9714and say, "Here I am, this is me.
9715I'm the one who made this.
9716
97172186
971802:10:42,417 --> 02:10:43,544
9719You're using it.
9720
97212187
972202:10:43,961 --> 02:10:47,631
9723This wouldn't exist without me.
9724I'm the filmmaker here."
9725
97262188
972702:10:49,132 --> 02:10:52,135
9728December 4th, 1975, Montreal, Canada,
9729
97302189
973102:10:52,219 --> 02:10:54,847
9732last scheduled concert
9733for the Rolling Thunder Revue.
9734
97352190
973602:10:55,806 --> 02:11:00,644
9737We phantoms are assembled
9738at the end of the Rolling Thunder tour.
9739
97402191
974102:11:00,769 --> 02:11:02,479
9742Roger? Let's go. Luther?
9743
97442192
974502:11:02,563 --> 02:11:05,399
9746We started out
9747trying to recover America.
9748
97492193
975002:11:05,482 --> 02:11:08,318
9751We discovered a certain amount of truth
9752about ourselves.
9753
97542194
975502:11:08,777 --> 02:11:11,363
9756Old friends who thought
9757their loves had been lost
9758
97592195
976002:11:11,613 --> 02:11:15,325
9761were able to get together
9762and, uh, face each other eye to eye
9763
97642196
976502:11:15,617 --> 02:11:17,995
9766and sing over an electrical microphone
9767
97682197
976902:11:18,078 --> 02:11:22,332
9770to please the desires
9771of myriad young yearners,
9772
97732198
977402:11:22,416 --> 02:11:25,544
9775who had been seeking some kind
9776of union and community
9777
97782199
977902:11:25,627 --> 02:11:27,629
9780and saw therein an image
9781of that community.
9782
97832200
978402:11:28,755 --> 02:11:30,340
9785Was the tour a success?
9786
97872201
978802:11:30,757 --> 02:11:33,427
9789The tour was a disaster,
9790it was a catastrophe.
9791
97922202
979302:11:33,510 --> 02:11:34,761
9794- Why?
9795- Well,
9796
97972203
979802:11:34,845 --> 02:11:37,764
9799I told 'em we should be playing
9800to 20,000-seaters,
9801
98022204
980302:11:37,848 --> 02:11:40,559
9804but instead, you know, they wanted
9805to play all these small joints.
9806
98072205
980802:11:40,642 --> 02:11:43,645
9809Now you've got 16 to 18 people onstage,
9810
98112206
981202:11:43,729 --> 02:11:46,356
9813and you got 15 people on the back line.
9814
98152207
981602:11:47,024 --> 02:11:50,485
9817Buses and hotel rooms and catering,
9818and you're only playing to houses
9819
98202208
982102:11:50,569 --> 02:11:53,363
9822with 3,000 seats,
9823so you're gonna hemorrhage money.
9824
98252209
982602:11:53,447 --> 02:11:55,532
9827We were in the red
9828before we even got on the road.
9829
98302210
983102:11:55,616 --> 02:11:57,868
9832No, it wasn't a success.
9833
98342211
983502:11:58,619 --> 02:12:00,954
9836Not if you measure success
9837in terms of profit.
9838
98392212
984002:12:02,247 --> 02:12:03,916
9841But it was a sense of adventure.
9842
98432213
984402:12:05,208 --> 02:12:09,379
9845So, in many ways, yes,
9846it was very successful.
9847
98482214
984902:12:10,797 --> 02:12:11,840
9850Let's go.
9851
98522215
985302:12:12,758 --> 02:12:14,009
9854Time to go.
9855
98562216
985702:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,721
9858- Come on. We're on.
9859- Yeah, Rob, you look pretty.
9860
98612217
986202:12:22,392 --> 02:12:24,561
9863What remains of that tour to this day?
9864
98652218
986602:12:24,645 --> 02:12:25,645
9867Nothing.
9868
98692219
987002:12:26,855 --> 02:12:28,106
9871Not one single thing.
9872
98732220
987402:12:28,690 --> 02:12:29,690
9875Ashes.
9876
98772221
987802:12:33,236 --> 02:12:37,240
9879<i>♪ Mama, wipe the blood off of my face ♪</i>
9880
98812222
988202:12:40,911 --> 02:12:44,164
9883<i>♪ I can't see through it anymore ♪</i>
9884
98852223
988602:12:47,584 --> 02:12:51,922
9887<i>♪ I need someone to talk to
9888And a new hiding place ♪</i>
9889
98902224
989102:12:55,676 --> 02:12:59,221
9892<i>♪ I feel like I'm knockin'
9893On heaven's door ♪</i>
9894
98952225
989602:13:02,975 --> 02:13:06,561
9897<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9898On heaven's door ♪</i>
9899
99002226
990102:13:10,315 --> 02:13:13,944
9902<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9903On heaven's door ♪</i>
9904
99052227
990602:13:17,656 --> 02:13:21,952
9907<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9908On heaven's door ♪</i>
9909
99102228
991102:13:24,955 --> 02:13:29,209
9912<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9913On heaven's door ♪</i>
9914
99152229
991602:13:32,421 --> 02:13:35,674
9917<i>♪ Mama, I can hear that thunder roll ♪</i>
9918
99192230
992002:13:39,803 --> 02:13:43,473
9921<i>♪ Echoing down from God's distant shore ♪</i>
9922
99232231
992402:13:46,852 --> 02:13:50,856
9925<i>♪ I can hear Him calling out for my soul ♪</i>
9926
99272232
992802:13:54,317 --> 02:13:57,863
9929<i>♪ l feel I'm knocking on heaven's door ♪</i>
9930
99312233
993202:14:01,867 --> 02:14:05,620
9933<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9934On heaven's door ♪</i>
9935
99362234
993702:14:09,249 --> 02:14:13,503
9938<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9939On heaven's door ♪</i>
9940
99412235
994202:14:16,673 --> 02:14:21,053
9943<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9944On heaven's door ♪</i>
9945
99462236
994702:14:23,930 --> 02:14:28,643
9948<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
9949On heaven's door ♪</i>
9950
99512237
995202:14:51,374 --> 02:14:55,212
9953You who saw it all,
9954or saw flashes and fragments,
9955
99562238
995702:14:55,629 --> 02:14:58,173
9958take from us some example,
9959
99602239
996102:14:58,256 --> 02:15:00,467
9962try and get yourselves together,
9963
99642240
996502:15:00,550 --> 02:15:03,345
9966clean up your act, find your community,
9967
99682241
996902:15:03,637 --> 02:15:07,182
9970pick up on some kind of redemption
9971of your own consciousness,
9972
99732242
997402:15:07,432 --> 02:15:10,018
9975become more mindful of your own friends,
9976
99772243
997802:15:10,102 --> 02:15:11,186
9979your own work,
9980
99812244
998202:15:11,269 --> 02:15:13,063
9983your own proper meditation,
9984
99852245
998602:15:13,146 --> 02:15:14,397
9987your own proper art,
9988
99892246
999002:15:14,481 --> 02:15:15,482
9991your own beauty.
9992
99932247
999402:15:15,607 --> 02:15:18,819
9995Go out and make it for your own eternity.
9996
99972248
999802:15:23,115 --> 02:15:27,786
9999<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
10000On heaven's door ♪</i>
10001
100022249
1000302:15:30,580 --> 02:15:35,001
10004<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
10005On heaven's door ♪</i>
10006
100072250
1000802:15:37,754 --> 02:15:42,717
10009<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
10010On heaven's door ♪</i>
10011
100122251
1001302:15:45,178 --> 02:15:50,142
10014<i>♪ Knock, knock, knockin'
10015On heaven's door ♪</i>
10016
100172252
1001802:15:54,521 --> 02:15:59,317
10019<i>♪ The water is wide ♪</i>
10020
100212253
1002202:15:59,568 --> 02:16:02,529
10023<i>♪ And I can't cross over ♪</i>
10024
100252254
1002602:16:05,949 --> 02:16:09,911
10027<i>♪ I've neither wings ♪</i>
10028
100292255
1003002:16:11,246 --> 02:16:16,001
10031<i>♪ That I could fly ♪</i>
10032
100332256
1003402:16:16,376 --> 02:16:21,131
10035<i>♪ Build me a boat ♪</i>
10036
100372257
1003802:16:21,882 --> 02:16:26,136
10039<i>♪ That can carry two ♪</i>
10040
100412258
1004202:16:27,387 --> 02:16:30,891
10043<i>♪ And both shall row ♪</i>
10044
100452259
1004602:16:33,059 --> 02:16:37,731
10047<i>♪ My love and I ♪</i>
10048
100492260
1005002:16:46,364 --> 02:16:50,785
10051<i>♪ There is a ship ♪</i>
10052
100532261
1005402:16:51,536 --> 02:16:54,372
10055<i>♪ And it sails on the sea ♪</i>
10056
100572262
1005802:16:57,709 --> 02:17:01,713
10059<i>♪ Loaded deep ♪</i>
10060
100612263
1006202:17:02,464 --> 02:17:07,052
10063<i>♪ As deep can be ♪</i>
10064
100652264
1006602:17:07,802 --> 02:17:12,515
10067<i>♪ But not as deep ♪</i>
10068
100692265
1007002:17:13,058 --> 02:17:17,854
10071<i>♪ As the love I'm in ♪</i>
10072
100732266
1007402:17:18,563 --> 02:17:21,816
10075<i>♪ And both shall row ♪</i>
10076
100772267
1007802:17:23,777 --> 02:17:29,741
10079<i>♪ My love and I ♪</i>
10080
100812268
1008202:17:55,517 --> 02:17:57,519
10083Bob!
10084
100852269
1008602:18:00,146 --> 02:18:01,898
10087Encore!
10088
100892270
1009002:18:08,113 --> 02:18:10,407
10091<i>♪ Hot chili peppers
10092In the blistering sun ♪</i>
10093
100942271
1009502:18:13,326 --> 02:18:16,121
10096<i>♪ Dust on my face and my cape ♪</i>
10097
100982272
1009902:18:18,790 --> 02:18:21,710
10100<i>♪ Me and Magdalena on the run ♪</i>
10101
101022273
1010302:18:24,212 --> 02:18:27,924
10104<i>♪ I think this time we shall escape ♪</i>
10105
101062274
1010702:18:29,384 --> 02:18:32,429
10108<i>♪ Sold my guitar to the baker's son ♪</i>
10109
101102275
1011102:18:34,889 --> 02:18:38,685
10112<i>♪ For a few crumbs and a place to hide ♪</i>
10113
101142276
1011502:18:40,312 --> 02:18:43,189
10116<i>♪ But I can get another one ♪</i>
10117
101182277
1011902:18:45,191 --> 02:18:49,279
10120<i>♪ And I'll play for Magdalena as we ride ♪</i>
10121
101222278
1012302:18:50,322 --> 02:18:53,033
10124♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
10125
101262279
1012702:18:53,825 --> 02:18:55,535
10128♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
10129
101302280
1013102:18:56,036 --> 02:18:59,873
10132<i>♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪</i>
10133
101342281
1013502:19:00,498 --> 02:19:03,251
10136♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
10137
101382282
1013902:19:03,460 --> 02:19:05,545
10140<i>♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪</i>
10141
101422283
1014302:19:06,171 --> 02:19:09,924
10144<i>♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪</i>
10145
101462284
1014702:19:21,144 --> 02:19:24,189
10148<i>♪ Past the Aztec ruins
10149And the ghosts of our people ♪</i>
10150
101512285
1015202:19:26,066 --> 02:19:29,444
10153<i>♪ Hoofbeats like castanets on stone ♪</i>
10154
101552286
1015602:19:30,612 --> 02:19:33,823
10157<i>♪ At night, I dream of bells
10158In the village steeple ♪</i>
10159
101602287
1016102:19:35,367 --> 02:19:39,287
10162<i>♪ Then I see the bloody face of Ramon ♪</i>
10163
101642288
1016502:19:40,372 --> 02:19:43,666
10166<i>♪ Was it me that shot him down
10167In the cantina? ♪</i>
10168
101692289
1017002:19:45,960 --> 02:19:49,130
10171<i>♪ Was it my hand that held the gun? ♪</i>
10172
101732290
1017402:19:50,799 --> 02:19:53,635
10175<i>♪ Come let us fly, my Magdalena ♪</i>
10176
101772291
1017802:19:55,428 --> 02:19:58,640
10179<i>♪ The dogs are barking
10180And what's done is done ♪</i>
10181
101822292
1018302:19:59,849 --> 02:20:02,727
10184♪ No llores, mi querida ♪
10185
101862293
1018702:20:03,269 --> 02:20:05,021
10188♪ Dios nos vigila ♪
10189
101902294
1019102:20:05,647 --> 02:20:09,025
10192<i>♪ Soon the horse will take us to Durango ♪</i>
10193
101942295
1019502:20:09,818 --> 02:20:12,362
10196♪ Agárrame, mi vida ♪
10197
101982296
1019902:20:12,445 --> 02:20:14,656
10200<i>♪ Soon the desert will be gone ♪</i>
10201
102022297
1020302:20:15,240 --> 02:20:18,743
10204<i>♪ Soon you will be dancing the fandango ♪</i>
10205
102062298
1020702:20:29,212 --> 02:20:32,465
10208<i>♪ At the corrida, we'll sit in the shade ♪</i>
10209
102102299
1021102:20:34,008 --> 02:20:37,345
10212<i>♪ And watch the young torero stand alone ♪</i>
10213
102142300
1021502:20:39,013 --> 02:20:42,308
10216<i>♪ Drank tequila
10217Where our grandfathers stayed ♪</i>
10218
102192301
1022002:20:43,393 --> 02:20:46,896
10221<i>♪ When they rode with Villa into Torreón ♪</i>
10222
102232302
1022402:20:48,356 --> 02:20:51,901
10225<i>♪ And the padre will recite
10226The prayers of old ♪</i>
10227
102282303
1022902:20:53,194 --> 02:20:56,948
10230<i>♪ In the little church this side of town ♪</i>
10231
102322304
1023302:20:57,991 --> 02:21:01,453
10234<i>♪ I'll wear new boots
10235And an earring of gold ♪</i>
10236
102372305
1023802:21:02,662 --> 02:21:06,458
10239<i>♪ You'll shine with diamonds
10240In your wedding gown ♪</i>
10241
102422306
1024302:21:08,126 --> 02:21:10,962
10244<i>♪ Was that the thunder that I heard? ♪</i>
10245
102462307
1024702:21:12,797 --> 02:21:15,842
10248<i>♪ My head is vibrating
10249I feel a sharp pain ♪</i>
10250
102512308
1025202:21:17,385 --> 02:21:20,138
10253<i>♪ Come sit by me, don't say a word ♪</i>
10254
102552309
1025602:21:22,182 --> 02:21:25,393
10257<i>♪ Oh, can it be that I am slain? ♪</i>
10258
102592310
1026002:21:26,895 --> 02:21:29,397
10261<i>♪ Quick, Magdalena, take my gun ♪</i>
10262
102632311
1026402:21:31,608 --> 02:21:34,819
10265<i>♪ Look up in the hills
10266That flash of light ♪</i>
10267
102682312
1026902:21:36,529 --> 02:21:39,157
10270<i>♪ Aim well, my little one ♪</i>
10271
102722313
1027302:21:41,117 --> 02:21:44,621
10274<i>♪ We may not make it through the night ♪</i>