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3They were all in
4agreement about what
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8we could do for Charlie,
9what the treatment
10
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13options were, there was drugs,
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17and there was brain surgery
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21and you're out of luck, and so.
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25It was a while ago but .
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29So Charlie was born
30March 11th, 1992,
31
328
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34and he had a pretty
35normal first year
36
379
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39and then right around his first
40birthday a little before
41his first birthday
42
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45I was actually pushing
46him in a swing one day
47
4811
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50and he kind of threw
51his arm up in the air
52
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55and twitched his head
56a little bit
57
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60and I didn't even
61think much of it
62
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65and I asked my
66wife Nancy, I said,
67
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70have you seen anything like that
71
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74and she said yeah,
75I've seen a bunch of it.
76
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79So that was the beginning and we
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83started seeing neurologists.
84
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87Okay, Charlie, okay.
88
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91The seizures
92increased in intensity
93
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96and in duration, he
97wound up having seizures
98
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101in the arms of the Chief
102of Pediatric Neurology
103
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106at Boston Children's
107Hospital, Seattle
108
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111Children's Hospital, UCLA,
112LA Children's Hospital
113
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116so we tried all the drugs
117that were available
118
11926
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121at the time. Charlie
122had a brain surgery
123
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126a horrendous brain
127surgery and nothing
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131really stopped his seizures
132and we lost hope
133
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136we were basically
137told there was no hope.
138
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141And one day after
142the visit, I stopped
143
14431
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146at the Medical Library. As
147soon as I started researching
148
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151pediatric epilepsy,
152one of the first things
153
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156that came up was
157a ketogenic diet
158
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161and was kinda
162shocking to me because
163
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166what it said was, uh,
167that about a third
168
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171of the kids with epilepsy
172as bad as Charlie
173
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176um, who go
177on a ketogenic diet have
178
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181their seizures go away,
182and another third
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186are significantly
187improved, and for a third
188
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191it doesn't work, and
192yet all of these folks
193
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196that we had taken Charlie to see
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200never mentioned
201a word about diet.
202
20343
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205Nutrition information
206can be so confusing and as
207advanced as we are medically
208
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211and scientifically, the question remains what foods should we
212eat to achieve good health?
213
21445
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216We're in a war for information
217
21846
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220and the fallout
221affects all of us.
222
22347
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225The media's just gonna sell what
226
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229people are gonna
230buy and if people
231
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234knew the truth, they would
235know what to ask for.
236
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239My name is Vinnie
240Tortorich and I've been
241
24251
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244in the health and fitness game
245
24652
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248for the better part of 40 years,
249
25053
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252specializing in weight loss.
253
25454
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256Over the years, I've seen
257everything come and go
258
25955
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261at least a hundred times,
262but as a country,
263
26456
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266we've only gotten fatter.
267
26857
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270What should I eat, what
271pills should I take,
272
27358
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275should I take a pill, what
276about those protein shakes?
277
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280We all know someone who's
281trying to lose weight
282
28360
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285and most of those
286people don't realize
287
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290simply losing weight
291doesn't mean good health.
292
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295My mother, for
296instance, she was always
297
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300on some diet, one week
301it was the Cambridge Diet
302
30364
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305the next week it was
306the Scarsdale diet,
307
30865
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310the next week it was
311the Cabbage Soup diet.
312
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315But wait a minute, the next week
316
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319she ate nothing but bananas.
320
32168
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323Where did that come from?
324
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327I always wonder about
328things like eight,
329
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332eight ounce glasses
333of water per day.
334
33571
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337Really, where did
338that come from?
339
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342High blood pressure,
343your doctor will say
344
34573
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347oh, you have high
348blood pressure,
349
35074
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352stop drinking coffee, really?
353
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356These are all just myths.
357
35876
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360The myths have become ingrained
361
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364in our society far too strongly
365
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368for people to realize
369they're myths.
370
37179
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373What are some of the
374health myths we hear every day?
375
37680
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378Grains are good for you
379and fat is bad for you.
380
38181
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383Obesity is an energy
384balance disorder.
385
38682
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388Calorie in, calorie out.
389
39083
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392Calories in, calories out
393
39484
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396as long as you're burning
397enough calories,
398
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401you can ingest
402whatever you want.
403
40486
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406That you have to exercise
407to have better health.
408
40987
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411Saturated fat is the cause
412of heart disease.
413
41488
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416A low fat diet is
417a healthy diet.
418
41989
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421We saw fat in the
422coronary arteries
423
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426and that must come
427from ingested fat.
428
42991
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431A growing number of
432doctors are learning
433
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436that almost everything we're
437taught about nutrition is wrong.
438
43993
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441And I realize there was
442this incredible story
443
44494
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446that we had gotten
447it pretty much
448
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451completely upside down
452and backward on fat.
453
45496
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456Believe it or not, the
457story of how we got to where
458we are today, started in
459
46097
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462the 1860s, with the
463Seventh-day Adventist Church
464
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467and a woman named Ellen White.
468
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471Ellen was a higher
472up in the church
473
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476and she would have
477these premonitions
478
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481and one night she had a dream,
482that God came to her
483
484102
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486and said that we
487shouldn't eat anything
488
489103
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491-with a face.
492-I was taken to another place
493
494104
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496high above this world and I
497
498105
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500I-- I heard a voice.
501
502106
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504There started
505modern-day veganism.
506
507107
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509It really didn't exist before
510then, there were other
511religious groups
512
513108
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515who were more vegetarian,
516they would eat eggs
517
518109
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520and dairy and so on and so forth
521
522110
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524and as a matter of fact,
525God also told her
526
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529that coffee and tea were bad,
530which made no sense
531
532112
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534because both of those
535are vegetation.
536
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539Not long after in our
540history, there was
541
542114
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544a man named
545Vilhjalmur Stefansson.
546
547115
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549He also believed,
550to a certain extent
551
552116
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554that a vegetable heavy
555diet was mandatory
556
557117
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559for good health,
560he was an explorer
561
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564who ended up living with Inuits
565in Canada in 1906 and
566in that time and place
567
568119
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570he was forced to
571adopt a new diet
572due to the lack of options.
573
574120
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576He made a discovery
577that will change
578the way you look at food.
579
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582Now this raises the whole
583question of food, then.
584
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587You yourself must have
588longed for a green
589
590123
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592-vegetable once in a while.
593-Well, I did at first.
594
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597At first his
598preconceived notion is
599
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602I'm gonna die, there
603is nothing green here.
604
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607There is no
608vegetation, they simply
609
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612eat fish and drink water.
613
614128
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616It was unlike anything that
617he'd experienced, right?
618
619129
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621Completely unlike
622the Western diet,
623
624130
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626it was probably 70 to 80% fat,
627the Inuit lived
628
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631half the year on
632caribou
633
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636and half the year on whatever
637they could fish out of the sea.
638
639133
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641For four and a half months,
642I lived on literally nothing
643but fish and water
644
645134
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647and at the end of four and
648a half months, I was healthier
649than I'd ever been before.
650
651135
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653And this is on an
654exclusive meat diet?
655
656136
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658That was
659exclusive fish in this case.
660
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663On this diet, they
664were perfectly healthy.
665
666138
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668I mean, Stefansson
669was somebody from
670
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673the medical world and
674he knew what cancer
675
676140
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678looked like, he knew what
679heart disease looked like
680
681141
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683and he did not see
684anyone suffering
685
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688from ill health
689in that community.
690
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693When he came back to
694the United States,
695
696144
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698no one believed him, of course,
699
700145
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702what, people eating
703nothing but meat and fat,
704
705146
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707how could that be, they
708certainly would die.
709
710147
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712Dr. Charles Norris,
713Chief Medical Examiner
714
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717does not approve of
718an all meat diet.
719
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722We have a weakness
723of not learning
724
725150
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727from the natives, but
728rather teaching them.
729
730151
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732You see everything through
733the colored spectacles
734
735152
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737of your education,
738your bringing up.
739
740153
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742We go through this
743whole idea of green good
744
745154
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747red bad, Greenpeace,
748a light turns green
749
750155
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752it means go, eat your
753greens, yet when you look
754
755156
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757at red, well red means
758stop, blood is red,
759
760157
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762it doesn't take long
763for media to pick up
764
765158
76600:08:08,270 --> 00:08:11,186
767on these thing and we don't
768realize it's happening
769
770159
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772but it's happening
773right in front of us.
774
775160
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777It's 10 p.m.
778do you know where
779
780161
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782your children are?
783
784162
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786Back to Ellen White
787and her visions.
788
789163
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791Ellen was having
792these premonitions
793
794164
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796and all of this was
797happening, the rioting's
798
799165
80000:08:26,636 --> 00:08:29,987
801were happening,
802in the mid-1860s,
803
804166
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806but ten years earlier in
8071856, a 12 year old boy
808
809167
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811came to work with the
812church, his family
813
814168
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816was in a church and
817that was John Kellogg.
818
819169
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821John, by the time he
822was 16, was writing
823
824170
82500:08:44,698 --> 00:08:47,091
826and putting out
827literature for the church.
828
829171
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831He would go on to share
832some of the most bizarre
833
834172
83500:08:49,354 --> 00:08:51,487
836beliefs that Ellen White
837and the church had
838
839173
84000:08:51,618 --> 00:08:53,097
841including the idea
842that masturbation
843
844174
84500:08:53,228 --> 00:08:54,098
846and sex were off limits.
847
848175
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850Excuse me, Ricky.
851
852176
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854To stave off these
855sins of the flesh,
856
857177
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859you should never eat
860meat because meat
861
862178
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864increases sexual desire.
865Well, this is what
866
867179
86800:09:02,846 --> 00:09:04,587
869eventually led to Cornflakes.
870
871180
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873That's right,
874Cornflakes were created
875
876181
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878by Seventh-day Adventists
879to curb sexual desires.
880
881182
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883He was the guy who
884figured out something
885
886183
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888that he termed
889dextrinization, it's when
890
891184
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893you cook down grains
894so much it turns
895
896185
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898into dextrose, it
899turns into a sugar.
900
901186
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903Today when you see
904dextrose in a product
905
906187
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908you should run in the
909opposite direction.
910
911188
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913It's as bad as seeing
914high-fructose corn syrup.
915
916189
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918It's used for bacon,
919it's used in salami,
920
921190
92200:09:33,747 --> 00:09:36,358
923all the luncheon
924meats that you get
925
926191
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928includes dextrose
929nowadays because
930
931192
93200:09:38,708 --> 00:09:41,015
933it gives it a shelf
934life, it's a way
935
936193
93700:09:41,145 --> 00:09:44,496
938to cure it fast, it's
939cheap, it's easy to do
940
941194
94200:09:44,627 --> 00:09:47,325
943so something that
944John Kellogg started
945
946195
94700:09:47,456 --> 00:09:49,153
948way back in the day
949has also seeped
950
951196
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953across to the other side,
954into the meat industry.
955
956197
95700:09:54,289 --> 00:09:56,073
958There are two issues,
959there's always
960
961198
96200:09:56,204 --> 00:09:58,206
963multiple questions, one
964is if you switch from
965
966199
96700:09:58,336 --> 00:10:00,904
968a standard American
969diet of processed foods
970
971200
97200:10:01,035 --> 00:10:03,254
973and sugary beverages
974and, you know, for lack
975
976201
97700:10:03,385 --> 00:10:05,343
978of a better word,
979we'll call it junk
980
981202
98200:10:05,474 --> 00:10:09,173
983and switch to a vegan
984diet with healthy
985
986203
98700:10:09,304 --> 00:10:11,828
988vegetables and beans
989and legumes and fruit
990
991204
99200:10:11,959 --> 00:10:13,787
993you're getting rid
994of a lot of crap
995
996205
99700:10:13,917 --> 00:10:15,615
998that's probably bad for you,
999which is the sugar
1000
1001206
100200:10:15,745 --> 00:10:18,530
1003and the highly refined
1004processed foods.
1005
1006207
100700:10:18,661 --> 00:10:20,184
1008You would expect
1009somebody to feel better
1010
1011208
101200:10:20,315 --> 00:10:22,665
1013if they did that,
1014the second question is
1015
1016209
101700:10:22,796 --> 00:10:25,407
1018if you did that and switched to
1019
1020210
102100:10:25,537 --> 00:10:28,802
1022a whole food diet that
1023was animal food based
1024
1025211
102600:10:28,932 --> 00:10:32,370
1027rather than plant
1028based, would you be
1029would they be healthier?
1030
1031212
103200:10:32,501 --> 00:10:35,809
1033I have spent aggregated
1034more than six years
1035
1036213
103700:10:35,939 --> 00:10:39,160
1038on red meat that is
1039seal meat, caribou meat,
1040
1041214
104200:10:39,290 --> 00:10:42,119
1043muskox meat, polar bear,
1044grizzly bear, so on.
1045
1046215
104700:10:42,250 --> 00:10:44,121
1048The Stefansson diet
1049was considered
1050
1051216
105200:10:44,252 --> 00:10:47,734
1053an all meat diet, so what he did
1054
1055217
105600:10:47,864 --> 00:10:52,652
1057in 1928, was subjected
1058himself and a friend of his
1059
1060218
106100:10:52,782 --> 00:10:55,176
1062to living in a hospital,
1063being monitored
1064
1065219
106600:10:55,306 --> 00:10:58,092
1067for an entire year
1068eating nothing but meat
1069
1070220
107100:10:58,222 --> 00:11:01,225
1072fish and water, and that became
1073the famous Bellevue Study.
1074
1075221
107600:11:02,836 --> 00:11:05,708
1077The studies on Stefansson,
1078which were intensively made
1079
1080222
108100:11:05,752 --> 00:11:10,800
1082from every clinical angle, started on February 13th, 1928.
1083
1084223
108500:11:10,931 --> 00:11:12,933
1086Stefansson was tested
1087during the experiment
1088
1089224
109000:11:13,063 --> 00:11:16,414
1091with an excessively high
1092protein, minimal fat diet
1093
1094225
109500:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,025
1096and as a result, became ill.
1097
1098226
109900:11:18,155 --> 00:11:20,810
1100Stefansson said the only
1101time that he felt ill
1102
1103227
110400:11:20,941 --> 00:11:22,856
1105was when he ate
1106too much lean meat
1107
1108228
110900:11:22,986 --> 00:11:25,902
1110not accompanied by the fat,
1111but that some thick steaks
1112
1113229
111400:11:26,033 --> 00:11:27,991
1115made him feel better
1116again .
1117
1118230
111900:11:28,122 --> 00:11:30,167
1120You have to have
1121fat with the lean
1122
1123231
112400:11:30,298 --> 00:11:34,519
1125as lean and fat together
1126make a perfect diet.
1127
1128232
112900:11:34,650 --> 00:11:37,479
1130At the end, there were six
1131publications that came out of
1132that experiment
1133
1134233
113500:11:37,609 --> 00:11:41,004
1136by different doctors looking at
1137whether or not they got enough
1138vitamins and minerals
1139
1140234
114100:11:41,135 --> 00:11:43,267
1142and everything
1143they could possibly
1144measure and they were found
1145
1146235
114700:11:43,398 --> 00:11:44,878
1148to be in perfect health.
1149
1150236
115100:11:59,719 --> 00:12:04,549
1152I wanted to try to
1153dispel from the world
1154
1155237
115600:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,552
1157the same misconceptions
1158which I had
1159
1160238
116100:12:07,683 --> 00:12:10,033
1162of the Arctic when I went north.
1163
1164239
116500:12:10,164 --> 00:12:12,732
1166I used to think that
1167I was well-informed
1168
1169240
117000:12:12,862 --> 00:12:14,385
1171on the Arctic
1172before I went north,
1173
1174241
117500:12:14,995 --> 00:12:19,260
1176and-- but I concluded
1177eventually that out of
1178
1179242
118000:12:19,390 --> 00:12:22,437
1181ten things that I
1182believed about the Arctic
1183
1184243
118500:12:22,567 --> 00:12:24,874
1186before I went north,
1187about six were wrong.
1188
1189244
119000:12:27,834 --> 00:12:30,750
1191The medical community
1192has been promoting
1193
1194245
119500:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,622
1196saturated fat as
1197being the bad actor
1198
1199246
120000:12:33,753 --> 00:12:37,104
1201for heart disease mainly
1202and that really
1203
1204247
120500:12:37,234 --> 00:12:40,237
1206came from weak science
1207called epidemiology.
1208
1209248
121000:12:40,368 --> 00:12:42,936
1211Experimental evidence that shows
1212
1213249
121400:12:43,066 --> 00:12:45,765
1215that that's actually
1216true has never been done.
1217
1218250
121900:12:45,895 --> 00:12:47,810
1220For example, you
1221could radio label
1222
1223251
122400:12:47,941 --> 00:12:50,247
1225saturated fat in
1226the food and see
1227
1228252
122900:12:50,378 --> 00:12:53,294
1230if it shows up on the arteries.
1231That's never been done.
1232
1233253
123400:12:53,424 --> 00:12:55,992
1235The entire teaching
1236about saturated fat
1237
1238254
123900:12:56,123 --> 00:12:59,169
1240being bad for the heart
1241is not really
1242
1243255
124400:12:59,300 --> 00:13:00,780
1245founded in good science.
1246
1247256
124800:13:02,259 --> 00:13:04,784
1249It's not that the
1250information is not out there.
1251
1252257
125300:13:04,914 --> 00:13:07,003
1254I remember early on
1255when I was in college,
1256
1257258
125800:13:07,134 --> 00:13:09,919
1259I had a college professor
1260explain to us
1261
1262259
126300:13:10,050 --> 00:13:14,141
1264that fat was our body's
1265preferred source of energy.
1266
1267260
126800:13:14,271 --> 00:13:18,493
1269Okay, fat is a very
1270good way to have energy
1271
1272261
127300:13:18,623 --> 00:13:20,582
1274and that same professor
1275a couple of weeks
1276
1277262
127800:13:20,712 --> 00:13:23,715
1279later said, our
1280bodies prefer sugar
1281
1282263
128300:13:23,846 --> 00:13:26,806
1284when we do exercise.
1285Weren't we talking
1286
1287264
128800:13:26,936 --> 00:13:28,590
1289about fat just a
1290couple of weeks ago?
1291
1292265
129300:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,592
1294Yeah, forget about
1295all that, it's sugar.
1296
1297266
129800:13:30,722 --> 00:13:33,813
1299So, the message even
1300in top universities
1301
1302267
130300:13:33,943 --> 00:13:34,901
1304right here in the United States
1305
1306268
130700:13:35,031 --> 00:13:36,728
1308are a bunch of mixed messages.
1309
1310269
131100:13:41,908 --> 00:13:43,910
1312Do I think there's
1313a big responsibility
1314
1315270
131600:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,650
1317for media to do the right thing?
1318
1319271
132000:13:45,781 --> 00:13:48,305
1321Yes, I do, you know, we have
1322three big networks,
1323
1324272
132500:13:48,436 --> 00:13:51,265
1326the big three, ABC, CBS and NBC.
1327
1328273
132900:13:51,395 --> 00:13:53,745
1330Whatever they told us,
1331we went with.
1332
1333274
133400:13:53,876 --> 00:13:55,835
1335Hell, when I was a kid,
1336there was still
1337
1338275
133900:13:55,965 --> 00:13:57,793
1340even cigarette
1341commercials on the air.
1342
1343276
134400:13:57,924 --> 00:14:00,361
1345At least we figured out
1346that that was a bad idea.
1347
1348277
134900:14:00,491 --> 00:14:03,190
1350♪ Don't settle for
1351some of the taste ♪
1352
1353278
135400:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,845
1355♪ Some of the time
1356
1357279
135800:14:05,975 --> 00:14:08,238
1359It's very easy to
1360see how someone
1361
1362280
136300:14:08,369 --> 00:14:10,327
1364can think something
1365or just say something
1366
1367281
136800:14:10,458 --> 00:14:12,895
1369and that becomes a reality.
1370
1371282
137200:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,202
1373Breakfast,
1374no eggs or fatty meats
1375
1376283
137700:14:15,332 --> 00:14:17,117
1378instead, eat grains and fiber
1379
1380284
138100:14:17,247 --> 00:14:19,206
1382that actually lower cholesterol.
1383
1384285
138500:14:19,336 --> 00:14:21,686
1386How about the
1387term heart healthy grains.
1388
1389286
139000:14:21,817 --> 00:14:24,124
1391We've all seen it,
1392many people believe it.
1393
1394287
139500:14:24,254 --> 00:14:27,388
1396After all, the terms come from
1397studies that prove it
1398to be true, right?
1399
1400288
140100:14:27,518 --> 00:14:30,130
1402Those were studies
1403looking at whole grains
1404
1405289
140600:14:30,260 --> 00:14:33,916
1407versus white processed
1408flours and grains.
1409
1410290
141100:14:34,047 --> 00:14:35,570
1412So of course, when
1413you're comparing it
1414
1415291
141600:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,920
1417to something like
1418white processed flour,
1419
1420292
142100:14:38,051 --> 00:14:40,662
1422it's going to be better,
1423but does that mean
1424
1425293
142600:14:40,792 --> 00:14:43,665
1427it in and of itself is
1428therefore heart healthy?
1429
1430294
143100:14:43,795 --> 00:14:47,277
1432You could make the
1433argument that whole grains
1434
1435295
143600:14:47,408 --> 00:14:51,064
1437are less bad for you
1438than refined grains
1439
1440296
144100:14:51,194 --> 00:14:54,197
1442but that doesn't make
1443whole grains good.
1444
1445297
144600:14:54,328 --> 00:14:58,114
1447Oatmeal, or oat bread,
1448or an oat muffin
1449
1450298
145100:14:58,245 --> 00:15:01,030
1452or oat bran that can
1453either incorporated
1454
1455299
145600:15:01,161 --> 00:15:03,032
1457into some other cereal product.
1458
1459300
146000:15:03,163 --> 00:15:04,773
1461It's like cigarettes,
1462you can have
1463
1464301
146500:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,949
1466cigarettes with a filter on
1467and they're less
1468
1469302
147000:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,518
1471bad for you perhaps than
1472unfiltered cigarettes.
1473
1474303
147500:15:10,648 --> 00:15:14,652
1476Doesn't make the
1477filtered cigarettes good.
1478It just means they're less bad
1479
1480304
148100:15:14,783 --> 00:15:18,221
1482and the same thing is true for
1483whole grains. They are less bad.
1484
1485305
148600:15:18,352 --> 00:15:22,008
1487We should put more emphasis on
1488our vegetables we should think
1489about the vegetables
1490
1491306
149200:15:22,138 --> 00:15:24,184
1493we're gonna have for dinner
1494rather than the meat portion.
1495
1496307
149700:15:24,314 --> 00:15:26,838
1498Listen I'm not
1499a doctor, I'm just a guy
1500
1501308
150200:15:26,969 --> 00:15:28,579
1503with a physical education degree
1504
1505309
150600:15:28,710 --> 00:15:30,451
1507who became a trainer and somehow
1508
1509310
151000:15:30,581 --> 00:15:32,453
1511found myself in the
1512world of modeling.
1513
1514311
151500:15:34,368 --> 00:15:36,370
1516Before I became
1517a trainer to the stars
1518
1519312
152000:15:36,500 --> 00:15:37,980
1521and eventually, a
1522best-selling author
1523
1524313
152500:15:38,111 --> 00:15:40,635
1526and podcaster, but
1527when I started modeling
1528
1529314
153000:15:40,765 --> 00:15:44,160
1531in LA in the early 90s, I
1532realized that the media will
1533sell us anything
1534
1535315
153600:15:44,291 --> 00:15:47,207
1537to make a buck, regardless of
1538whether it's healthy or not.
1539
1540316
154100:15:47,337 --> 00:15:49,383
1542Let's face it, every
1543beer commercial
1544
1545317
154600:15:49,513 --> 00:15:52,560
1547you've ever seen is a
1548bunch of ripped-up guys
1549
1550318
155100:15:52,690 --> 00:15:54,301
1552on a beach playing
1553volleyball because
1554
1555319
155600:15:54,431 --> 00:15:55,955
1557that's what beer
1558drinkers look like.
1559
1560320
156100:16:00,698 --> 00:16:03,179
1562If you have ripped up abs
1563or you have
1564
1565321
156600:16:03,310 --> 00:16:06,661
1567a nice set of shoulders,
1568they want you
1569
1570322
157100:16:06,791 --> 00:16:09,011
1572modeling everything
1573in the infomercials.
1574
1575323
157600:16:09,142 --> 00:16:11,448
1577It was the heyday
1578of the infomercial.
1579
1580324
158100:16:11,579 --> 00:16:13,842
1582If we
1583think fat, then we are.
1584
1585325
158600:16:13,973 --> 00:16:15,583
1587Fad diets,
1588powders, pills,
1589
1590326
159100:16:15,713 --> 00:16:17,889
1592still my weight's been
1593up and down like a yo-yo
1594
1595327
159600:16:18,020 --> 00:16:19,543
1597until the Ayds Plan
1598taught me how to
1599
1600328
160100:16:19,674 --> 00:16:21,371
1602take off weight and
1603help keep it off.
1604
1605329
160600:16:21,502 --> 00:16:23,330
1607Just 20 minutes a day will turn
1608
1609330
161000:16:23,460 --> 00:16:25,680
1611your body into a
1612calorie burning furnace.
1613
1614331
161500:16:25,810 --> 00:16:28,422
1616We were coming into
1617this age of, hey,
1618
1619332
162000:16:28,552 --> 00:16:30,728
1621if you just do what I tell you,
1622
1623333
162400:16:30,859 --> 00:16:34,732
1625you can look like this guy
1626or this woman in just
1627a few weeks.
1628
1629334
163000:16:34,863 --> 00:16:38,258
1631Dexatrim did it, I lost
1632weight and feel great!
1633
1634335
163500:16:38,388 --> 00:16:40,695
1636Nobody wanted the truth,
1637they just wanted
1638
1639336
164000:16:40,825 --> 00:16:43,002
1641a lie that they could
1642get everyone to believe.
1643
1644337
164500:16:43,132 --> 00:16:45,439
1646Now you can
1647lose weight without diets...
1648
1649338
165000:16:45,569 --> 00:16:47,136
1651No, this product
1652really doesn't work.
1653
1654339
165500:16:47,267 --> 00:16:48,398
1656...without pills.
1657
1658340
165900:16:48,529 --> 00:16:50,096
1660No, that product
1661really doesn't work.
1662
1663341
166400:16:50,226 --> 00:16:51,967
1665...without exercise.
1666
1667342
166800:16:52,098 --> 00:16:53,534
1669Well, what does work?
1670
1671343
167200:16:53,664 --> 00:16:54,796
1673Now you can lose weight
1674
1675344
167600:16:54,926 --> 00:16:56,276
1677just by watching television.
1678
1679345
168000:16:56,406 --> 00:16:58,626
1681So I learned very
1682quickly, be careful
1683
1684346
168500:16:58,756 --> 00:16:59,627
1686as to what you advertise.
1687
1688347
168900:17:09,332 --> 00:17:11,552
1690The 1920s and 30s it
1691was a lot different,
1692
1693348
169400:17:11,682 --> 00:17:14,120
1695we were learning a lot
1696of things back then.
1697
1698349
169900:17:14,250 --> 00:17:17,166
1700We were discovering
1701vitamins for the first time.
1702
1703350
170400:17:17,297 --> 00:17:20,648
1705Uh, we also learned
1706that food could heal
1707
1708351
170900:17:20,778 --> 00:17:22,780
1710and a lot of these
1711therapies are what
1712
1713352
171400:17:22,911 --> 00:17:24,913
1715were being used to heal people.
1716
1717353
171800:17:25,044 --> 00:17:28,656
1719They were using non-starchy,
1720non-sugary diets
1721
1722354
172300:17:28,786 --> 00:17:32,703
1724to starve cancer in
1725the 1920s and 30s.
1726
1727355
172800:17:33,139 --> 00:17:34,792
1729Take Otto Warburg for instance.
1730
1731356
173200:17:34,923 --> 00:17:37,360
1733He was doing cancer
1734studies on rats.
1735
1736357
173700:17:42,670 --> 00:17:44,367
1738He thought that the
1739outcome would be
1740
1741358
174200:17:44,498 --> 00:17:46,804
1743that oxygen was what was fueling
1744
1745359
174600:17:46,935 --> 00:17:49,633
1747cancer cells to grow
1748and what he learned
1749
1750360
175100:17:49,764 --> 00:17:52,419
1752with rats was that it
1753was actually the sugar.
1754
1755361
175600:17:52,854 --> 00:17:54,247
1757♪ Eat an apple everyday
1758
1759362
176000:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,140
1761His discovery was well known as
1762
1763363
176400:18:18,271 --> 00:18:21,274
1765the Warburg Effect and
1766it was shown to help
1767
1768364
176900:18:21,404 --> 00:18:24,233
1770in somewhere near
177180% of the cases
1772
1773365
177400:18:24,364 --> 00:18:27,193
1775of people who had cancer.
1776Why does it feel like
1777
1778366
177900:18:27,323 --> 00:18:28,672
1780no one knows this information?
1781
1782367
178300:18:32,981 --> 00:18:35,114
1784We were making
1785these discoveries.
1786
1787368
178800:18:35,244 --> 00:18:38,029
1789So what else contributed
1790to them not taking hold?
1791
1792369
179300:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,771
1794We had a Great
1795Depression and then
1796we had a war,
1797
1798370
179900:18:40,902 --> 00:18:44,253
1800a lot of people were having
1801trouble putting food
1802in their mouth, period,
1803
1804371
180500:18:44,384 --> 00:18:47,909
1806so I don't think people were
1807caring that much about their
1808health, people were just
1809
1810372
181100:18:48,039 --> 00:18:50,912
1812trying to eat anything,
1813people didn't eat out as much.
1814
1815373
181600:18:51,042 --> 00:18:53,132
1817We made home-made dressings,
1818you didn't have
1819
1820374
182100:18:53,262 --> 00:18:55,525
1822dressings that were
1823full of processed oils
1824
1825375
182600:18:55,656 --> 00:18:58,180
1827and we weren't adding
1828high-fructose corn syrup
1829
1830376
183100:18:58,311 --> 00:19:02,576
1832to everything that we ate,
1833we ate real whole foods
1834
1835377
183600:19:02,706 --> 00:19:04,273
1837that were cooked at home.
1838
1839378
184000:19:04,404 --> 00:19:06,623
1841Even fast food
1842was different back
1843
1844379
184500:19:06,754 --> 00:19:10,236
1846in the 1940s and 50s.
1847If you had french fries
1848
1849380
185000:19:10,366 --> 00:19:13,108
1851they were made from
1852rendered animal fat.
1853
1854381
185500:19:13,239 --> 00:19:16,285
1856Basically beef tallow,
1857which was a better way
1858
1859382
186000:19:16,416 --> 00:19:19,245
1861to cook junk food,
1862so even our junk food
1863
1864383
186500:19:19,375 --> 00:19:22,422
1866was better in the
18671940s and 50s and 60s.
1868
1869384
187000:19:27,253 --> 00:19:30,169
1871It wasn't until we
1872got to the 1950s
1873
1874385
187500:19:30,299 --> 00:19:33,172
1876where people start to
1877become more prosperous.
1878
1879386
188000:19:36,262 --> 00:19:38,046
1881We saw the advent of TV dinners
1882
1883387
188400:19:38,177 --> 00:19:39,482
1885and other stuff and more sugar
1886
1887388
188800:19:39,613 --> 00:19:42,006
1889and processed foods
1890came from everywhere.
1891
1892389
189300:19:43,921 --> 00:19:48,491
1894But what really happens
1895happened in 1955
1896
1897390
189800:19:48,622 --> 00:19:51,581
1899when one of the most popular
1900Presidents of our time,
1901
1902391
190300:19:51,712 --> 00:19:54,323
1904Dwight D. Eisenhower,
1905had a heart attack.
1906
1907392
190800:19:56,543 --> 00:19:58,371
1909News of
1910President Eisenhower's
1911
1912393
191300:19:58,501 --> 00:20:00,329
1914sudden illness,
1915described by his doctors
1916
1917394
191800:20:00,460 --> 00:20:03,724
1919as coronary thrombosis, came as a severe shock to us all.
1920
1921395
192200:20:03,854 --> 00:20:07,380
1923Films of President Eisenhower
1924made just before
1925his heart attack
1926
1927396
192800:20:07,510 --> 00:20:11,253
1929are dramatic evidence of the
1930suddenness of the illness that
1931shocked the nation.
1932
1933397
193400:20:11,384 --> 00:20:13,037
1935President
1936Eisenhower's heart attack...
1937
1938398
193900:20:23,526 --> 00:20:26,225
1940Well, if he could die, what
1941could happen to me?
1942
1943399
194400:20:26,355 --> 00:20:27,835
1945You have to understand,
1946this is a period
1947
1948400
194900:20:27,965 --> 00:20:30,316
1950in the 1950s when America is in
1951
1952401
195300:20:30,446 --> 00:20:33,057
1954a complete panic about the
1955rising tide of heart disease.
1956
1957402
195800:20:33,188 --> 00:20:35,408
1959Before that, we never
1960thought about heart attacks,
1961
1962403
196300:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,627
1964we never thought about
1965health and fitness,
1966
1967404
196800:20:37,758 --> 00:20:39,455
1969we didn't think abut
1970the food we were eating.
1971
1972405
197300:20:39,586 --> 00:20:42,632
1974No one back in the 1950s
1975knew what
1976
1977406
197800:20:42,763 --> 00:20:45,374
1979their cholesterol
1980score was, much less
1981
1982407
198300:20:45,505 --> 00:20:47,768
1984even knew what the
1985world cholesterol meant.
1986
1987408
198800:21:05,351 --> 00:21:07,875
1989Cholesterol is kind of
1990a fat type molecule,
1991
1992409
199300:21:08,005 --> 00:21:10,660
1994it's in all of our cells,
199530 trillion cells.
1996
1997410
199800:21:10,791 --> 00:21:12,488
1999Cholesterol is
2000actually so important
2001
2002411
200300:21:12,619 --> 00:21:14,447
2004to the body that
2005it actually makes
2006
2007412
200800:21:14,577 --> 00:21:16,623
2009the majority of cholesterol
2010that's in your blood
2011
2012413
201300:21:16,753 --> 00:21:19,147
2014right now, most of the
2015dietary cholesterol
2016
2017414
201800:21:19,278 --> 00:21:22,193
2019you eat will go through you
2020and very little
2021
2022415
202300:21:22,324 --> 00:21:24,326
2024actually gets absorbed,
2025and of that cholesterol
2026
2027416
202800:21:24,457 --> 00:21:27,764
2029you find in the blood, most
2030of it was made by your liver.
2031
2032417
203300:21:27,895 --> 00:21:30,158
2034It is an essential
2035of nerve tissue for instance...
2036
2037418
203800:21:41,169 --> 00:21:44,433
2039If you eat more cholesterol,
2040your body will make less,
2041if you eat less
2042
2043419
204400:21:44,564 --> 00:21:47,306
2045your body will make more,
2046which makes it very interesting
2047
2048420
204900:21:47,436 --> 00:21:49,786
2050that it was maligned in
2051the past few decades.
2052
2053421
205400:21:49,917 --> 00:21:52,398
2055Heart disease had been rare in
2056
2057422
205800:21:52,528 --> 00:21:54,791
2059the early 1900s and
2060had really risen
2061
2062423
206300:21:54,922 --> 00:21:57,272
2064since the late 1920s
2065to be the number one
2066
2067424
206800:21:57,403 --> 00:21:59,318
2069killer disease by the 1950s.
2070
2071425
207200:21:59,448 --> 00:22:02,016
2073We took a collective gasp
2074in this country.
2075
2076426
207700:22:02,146 --> 00:22:04,235
2078We didn't wanna have another
2079President die in office.
2080
2081427
208200:22:04,366 --> 00:22:06,150
2083Just imagine your
2084President not being
2085
2086428
208700:22:06,281 --> 00:22:08,805
2088in the Oval Office for
2089ten days and he's in bed.
2090
2091429
209200:22:08,936 --> 00:22:10,503
2093Besides, this guy
2094was very popular,
2095
2096430
209700:22:10,633 --> 00:22:13,070
2098people wanted to find out
2099what caused it.
2100
2101431
210200:22:13,201 --> 00:22:15,725
2103Could it have been
2104his diet, and if so,
2105
2106432
210700:22:15,856 --> 00:22:18,075
2108what was he eating and
2109how can we change it?
2110
2111433
211200:22:18,206 --> 00:22:22,341
2113This is also the time when the
2114media was more prevalent.
2115
2116434
211700:22:22,471 --> 00:22:24,604
2118Motion picture cameras join newspaper reporters
2119
2120435
212100:22:24,647 --> 00:22:26,388
2122in the old
2123State Department building
2124
2125436
212600:22:26,432 --> 00:22:29,043
2127for an historic
2128Presidential press conference.
2129
2130437
213100:22:29,173 --> 00:22:31,437
2132The first ever filmed in
2133sound by newsreel cameramen.
2134
2135438
213600:22:31,567 --> 00:22:33,352
2137I see we're trying
2138a new experiment
2139
2140439
214100:22:33,482 --> 00:22:35,658
2142this morning, I hope
2143it doesn't prove
2144
2145440
214600:22:35,789 --> 00:22:37,138
2147to be a disturbing influence.
2148
2149441
215000:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,019
2151The power of media,
2152you can't really
2153
2154442
215500:22:49,150 --> 00:22:52,632
2156tell that story without telling
2157the story of Oprah Winfrey.
2158
2159443
216000:22:53,197 --> 00:22:57,680
2161It was 1993 and by
2162happenstance, I was put
2163up for an appearance on Oprah.
2164
2165444
216600:22:57,811 --> 00:23:01,510
2167They needed someone the next
2168day. They were looking for
2169younger men who were dating
2170
2171445
217200:23:01,641 --> 00:23:06,210
2173older women and since my
2174girlfriend was seven years older
2175at the time, I was invited on.
2176
2177446
217800:23:06,341 --> 00:23:09,692
2179I wasn't into it, I had no idea
2180what really happened on Oprah,
2181
2182447
218300:23:09,823 --> 00:23:11,651
2184but I was told no,
2185you have to do it,
2186
2187448
218800:23:11,781 --> 00:23:13,392
2189it'll be great for your career.
2190
2191449
219200:23:13,522 --> 00:23:15,394
2193So they fly me
2194to Chicago and I get
2195
2196450
219700:23:15,524 --> 00:23:17,396
2198to the green room,
2199I was introduced
2200
2201451
220200:23:17,526 --> 00:23:18,788
2203to a woman named Doe.
2204
2205452
220600:23:20,616 --> 00:23:24,403
2207The theme of the show
2208was younger men
2209
2210453
221100:23:24,533 --> 00:23:26,753
2212who were dating older women.
2213
2214454
221500:23:26,883 --> 00:23:28,407
2216Older women having the courage
2217
2218455
221900:23:28,537 --> 00:23:29,712
2220to live their dreams and fulfill
2221
2222456
222300:23:29,843 --> 00:23:31,453
2224their fantasies and
2225live their lives
2226
2227457
222800:23:31,584 --> 00:23:33,542
2229exactly the way they wanted to,
2230
2231458
223200:23:33,673 --> 00:23:36,850
2233including dating younger men.
2234
2235459
223600:23:36,980 --> 00:23:41,202
2237Doe said that I
2238would have to pretend
2239
2240460
224100:23:41,332 --> 00:23:44,379
2242that I was dating her and I said
2243what are you talking about?
2244
2245461
224600:23:44,510 --> 00:23:46,773
2247My guests today,
2248they're all members
2249
2250462
225100:23:46,903 --> 00:23:49,863
2252of a provocative new
2253kind of dating service.
2254
2255463
225600:23:49,993 --> 00:23:52,300
2257I told her that I
2258would not go on stage
2259
2260464
226100:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,041
2262and lie, that I
2263would go on stage
2264
2265465
226600:23:54,171 --> 00:23:55,825
2267and sit next to Doe,
2268but I would not say
2269
2270466
227100:23:55,956 --> 00:23:58,132
2272that we dated,
2273I quickly realized
2274
2275467
227600:23:58,262 --> 00:24:00,482
2277that I had been
2278bamboozled, because Doe
2279
2280468
228100:24:00,613 --> 00:24:01,875
2282introduced me as her boyfriend.
2283
2284469
228500:24:02,005 --> 00:24:04,051
2286I'd like you meet
2287Vinnie Tortorich,
2288
2289470
229000:24:04,181 --> 00:24:06,009
2291he's a Beverly Hills
2292fitness expert,
2293
2294471
229500:24:06,140 --> 00:24:08,490
2296he's hot, sweet, he loves women
2297
2298472
229900:24:08,621 --> 00:24:10,666
2300and he's emotionally accessible.
2301
2302473
230300:24:10,797 --> 00:24:12,233
2304-Ah, get out of here.
2305
2306474
230700:24:12,363 --> 00:24:13,713
2308I couldn't believe
2309what was happening
2310
2311475
231200:24:13,843 --> 00:24:17,107
2313and at that moment,
2314I said to myself,
2315
2316476
231700:24:17,238 --> 00:24:20,937
2318I'm gonna turn this
2319into not the Oprah show
2320but the Vinnie show.
2321
2322477
232300:24:21,068 --> 00:24:22,939
2324Number one, women don't even hit
2325
2326478
232700:24:23,070 --> 00:24:25,376
2328their sexual prime
2329until they hit 40,
2330
2331479
233200:24:25,507 --> 00:24:27,422
2333they don't even know what's
2334going on until they're 40!
2335
2336480
233700:24:30,556 --> 00:24:32,035
2338I've been dating older women--
2339
2340481
234100:24:32,166 --> 00:24:34,560
2342-Gee, I'm only 39!
2343
2344482
234500:24:34,690 --> 00:24:37,867
2346I'm gonna make this show so bad
2347that they won't possibly
2348
2349483
235000:24:37,911 --> 00:24:39,913
2351be able to run it
2352on national television.
2353
2354484
235500:24:40,043 --> 00:24:42,437
2356You wanna be with an older
2357woman, it's the difference
2358between riding in
2359
2360485
236100:24:42,481 --> 00:24:45,571
2362a Volkswagen and a Cadillac.
2363If you wanna ride
2364in a Volkswagen,
2365
2366486
236700:24:45,701 --> 00:24:47,007
2368go right ahead, if
2369you want the Cadillac,
2370
2371487
237200:24:47,137 --> 00:24:49,009
2373-go for an older woman.
2374-Well, now--
2375
2376488
237700:24:51,402 --> 00:24:53,056
2378It turned into a circus,
2379the people
2380
2381489
238200:24:53,187 --> 00:24:55,972
2383in the audience actually
2384believed all this.
2385
2386490
238700:24:56,103 --> 00:24:57,713
2388Doe and I had just met.
2389
2390491
239100:24:57,844 --> 00:25:00,107
2392It was like the audience
2393was participating
2394
2395492
239600:25:00,237 --> 00:25:01,891
2397in this huge game of Mad Libs.
2398
2399493
240000:25:02,022 --> 00:25:03,371
2401Two different generations.
2402
2403494
240400:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,504
2405How was school, oh I
2406learned arithmetic.
2407
2408495
240900:25:05,634 --> 00:25:07,680
2410I don't see how two people
2411can have something in common
2412
2413496
241400:25:07,723 --> 00:25:08,942
2415if they're not the same age.
2416
2417497
241800:25:09,072 --> 00:25:10,334
2419It seems like people are
2420treating this
2421
2422498
242300:25:10,378 --> 00:25:11,466
2424like some sort of fetish.
2425
2426499
242700:25:11,597 --> 00:25:12,423
2428What could you possible
2429
2430500
243100:25:12,467 --> 00:25:13,337
2432have in common?
2433
2434501
243500:25:13,468 --> 00:25:14,513
2436Let's say Cher
2437
2438502
243900:25:14,556 --> 00:25:15,514
2440walked into the room
2441
2442503
244300:25:15,644 --> 00:25:17,472
2444and said she had to have you.
2445
2446504
244700:25:21,215 --> 00:25:23,391
2448Sally, get Cher on the phone!
2449
2450505
245100:25:23,522 --> 00:25:26,916
2452I ended up asking
2453Cher out on a date
2454
2455506
245600:25:27,047 --> 00:25:29,528
2457-during the show.
2458-Cher is on the phone.
2459
2460507
246100:25:29,658 --> 00:25:31,573
2462Cher, my name is
2463Vinnie Tortorich and...
2464
2465508
246600:25:33,923 --> 00:25:35,272
2467I wanna say this in front
2468of the whole country.
2469
2470509
247100:25:35,316 --> 00:25:36,709
2472-Is the camera on me?
2473-Yeah, the cameras on you.
2474
2475510
247600:25:36,752 --> 00:25:40,016
2477Cher, I live in Beverly Hills,
2478let's get together
2479
2480511
248100:25:40,147 --> 00:25:43,106
2482and have lunch, I'll have my
2483agent call your agent,
2484and we'll do it
2485
2486512
248700:25:43,150 --> 00:25:44,455
2488because we'll have a great time.
2489
2490513
249100:25:44,586 --> 00:25:46,806
2492No matter how outlandish I got,
2493
2494514
249500:25:46,936 --> 00:25:48,329
2496they seemed to enjoy it
2497more and more.
2498
2499515
250000:25:48,459 --> 00:25:50,505
2501What I wanna know
2502is from the ladies
2503
2504516
250500:25:50,636 --> 00:25:53,073
2506in the audience, should I
2507have lunch with this guy?
2508
2509517
251000:25:53,987 --> 00:25:55,728
2511As a matter of fact,
2512you can see Oprah,
2513
2514518
251500:25:55,858 --> 00:25:57,773
2516Oprah started dancing
2517in the aisles.
2518
2519519
252000:26:01,908 --> 00:26:03,779
2521The show ended
2522and I went back to LA
2523
2524520
252500:26:03,910 --> 00:26:05,738
2526and I just assumed, well
2527that show's gonna bomb.
2528
2529521
253000:26:05,868 --> 00:26:07,957
2531As of last year,
2532it was the seventh
2533
2534522
253500:26:08,088 --> 00:26:10,612
2536highest rated show
2537in Oprah's history.
2538
2539523
254000:26:10,743 --> 00:26:13,093
2541People still recognize
2542me for it today
2543
2544524
254500:26:13,223 --> 00:26:15,574
2546and virtually none
2547of it was true.
2548
2549525
255000:26:15,704 --> 00:26:18,185
2551I took that
2552realization that media
2553
2554526
255500:26:18,315 --> 00:26:19,316
2556can change everything.
2557
2558527
255900:26:20,579 --> 00:26:23,146
2560Eisenhower has a heart
2561attack and he wants
2562
2563528
256400:26:23,277 --> 00:26:24,713
2565the whole country
2566to know that this
2567
2568529
256900:26:24,844 --> 00:26:26,976
2570-was a real issue.
2571-I am happy the doctors
2572
2573530
257400:26:27,107 --> 00:26:31,590
2575have given me at least
2576a parole if not a pardon
2577
2578531
257900:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,594
2580and I expect to be back
2581at my accustomed duties
2582
2583532
258400:26:35,724 --> 00:26:37,857
2585although they say
2586I must ease my way
2587
2588533
258900:26:37,987 --> 00:26:40,468
2590into 'em and not
2591bulldoze my way into 'em.
2592
2593534
259400:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,339
2595But the media had other ideas.
2596
2597535
259800:26:42,470 --> 00:26:44,603
2599They have their own agenda, ah,
2600
2601536
260200:26:44,733 --> 00:26:46,605
2603he had the common
2604cold of heart attacks,
2605
2606537
260700:26:46,735 --> 00:26:48,171
2608he didn't really have a bad one.
2609
2610538
261100:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,086
2612The media was trying to show him
2613
2614539
261500:26:50,217 --> 00:26:52,611
2616on the golf course, having
2617a great round of golf.
2618
2619540
262000:26:55,526 --> 00:26:59,443
2621It was thought that diet was
2622the cause. He was also like
2623a four pack a day smoker.
2624
2625541
262600:26:59,574 --> 00:27:02,490
2627Which may very well have
2628given him his heart attack.
2629
2630542
263100:27:02,621 --> 00:27:04,623
2632Yes, according to this survey,
2633
2634543
263500:27:04,753 --> 00:27:08,061
2636more doctors smoke Camel
2637than any other cigarette.
2638
2639544
264000:27:08,191 --> 00:27:09,671
2641Try Camels yourself.
2642
2643545
264400:27:09,802 --> 00:27:12,413
2645Right around that time,
2646enters Ancel Keys.
2647
2648546
264900:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,635
2650Ancel Keys was a pathologist
2651
2652547
265300:27:16,765 --> 00:27:18,332
2654at the University of Minnesota.
2655
2656548
265700:27:18,462 --> 00:27:23,554
2658He got the idea in the
26591950s that saturated fat
2660
2661549
266200:27:23,685 --> 00:27:26,383
2663and cholesterol were what
2664caused heart diseases.
2665
2666550
266700:27:26,514 --> 00:27:32,172
2668It strikes without warning.
2669Of ten men, we can
2670expect five to get it.
2671
2672551
267300:27:35,958 --> 00:27:40,571
2674But we can't say
2675who or when or why.
2676
2677552
267800:27:41,181 --> 00:27:44,663
2679Ancel Keys was this
2680incredibly persuasive person.
2681
2682553
268300:27:44,793 --> 00:27:49,145
2684He had a really outsized
2685belief in his own ideas.
2686
2687554
268800:27:49,276 --> 00:27:52,105
2689The facts are simple,
2690you know the chief killer
2691
2692555
269300:27:52,235 --> 00:27:54,803
2694of Americans is
2695cardiovascular disease.
2696
2697556
269800:27:54,934 --> 00:27:57,719
2699Disorders and degeneration of
2700the heart and blood vessels.
2701
2702557
270300:27:59,634 --> 00:28:01,288
2704Here are vital statistics.
2705
2706558
270700:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,336
2708They show that this
2709problem here in America
2710is the worst in the world.
2711
2712559
271300:28:06,467 --> 00:28:08,687
2714Ancel Keys was
2715famous for something
2716
2717560
271800:28:08,817 --> 00:28:10,427
2719called the Seven
2720Countries Study.
2721
2722561
272300:28:10,558 --> 00:28:11,733
2724This is where he
2725went and studied
2726
2727562
272800:28:11,864 --> 00:28:14,867
2729seven different countries
2730and came up with
2731
2732563
273300:28:14,997 --> 00:28:18,000
2734this hypothesis as to
2735how we're supposed to eat
2736
2737564
273800:28:18,131 --> 00:28:19,436
2739based on correlation.
2740
2741565
274200:28:19,567 --> 00:28:21,090
2743Ancel Keys is the
2744one who proposed
2745
2746566
274700:28:21,221 --> 00:28:22,701
2748what he called the
2749Diet Heart Hypothesis
2750
2751567
275200:28:22,831 --> 00:28:26,008
2753and that was that saturated
2754fat and cholesterol,
2755
2756568
275700:28:26,139 --> 00:28:28,750
2758dietary cholesterol would
2759give you a heart attack,
2760
2761569
276200:28:28,881 --> 00:28:32,754
2763especially saturated fat,
2764like hot oil
2765
2766570
276700:28:32,885 --> 00:28:35,017
2768down a cold stove pipe,
2769it would just
2770
2771571
277200:28:35,148 --> 00:28:37,280
2773clog up your arteries and
2774give you a heart attack.
2775
2776572
277700:28:37,411 --> 00:28:39,718
2778The problem is, he cherry picked
2779
2780573
278100:28:39,848 --> 00:28:42,503
2782these countries
2783to fit what he was
2784
2785574
278600:28:42,633 --> 00:28:44,592
2787trying to hypothesize
2788and set out
2789
2790575
279100:28:44,723 --> 00:28:46,246
2792to prove that the
2793more calories you got
2794
2795576
279600:28:46,376 --> 00:28:47,726
2797from fat, the better
2798chance you had
2799
2800577
280100:28:47,856 --> 00:28:49,553
2802of getting heart disease.
2803
2804578
280500:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,686
2806It seemed like a
2807straight line between
2808
2809579
281000:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,471
2811the least fat consumed
2812and the most fat consumed
2813
2814580
281500:28:54,602 --> 00:28:55,908
2816with the US at the top.
2817
2818581
281900:28:56,473 --> 00:28:59,999
2820The only problem is,
2821Key studied 22 countries
2822
2823582
282400:29:00,129 --> 00:29:01,827
2825and if you factor in
2826all of those countries,
2827
2828583
282900:29:01,957 --> 00:29:03,829
2830the results are
2831all over the place.
2832
2833584
283400:29:04,830 --> 00:29:06,483
2835He just took the seven countries
2836
2837585
283800:29:06,614 --> 00:29:09,312
2839that proved his point that
2840fat causes heart disease.
2841
2842586
284300:29:09,443 --> 00:29:11,793
2844This study made Keys
2845the temporary savior
2846
2847587
284800:29:11,924 --> 00:29:14,622
2849of the medical community,
2850and therefore, the world.
2851
2852588
285300:29:14,753 --> 00:29:16,755
2854Such that he was able to get on
2855
2856589
285700:29:16,885 --> 00:29:19,627
2858to the American Heart
2859Association Nutrition Committee
2860
2861590
286200:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,890
2863and he turned the whole
2864Association around
2865
2866591
286700:29:22,021 --> 00:29:24,806
2868in one year and
2869got them, in 1961
2870
2871592
287200:29:24,937 --> 00:29:27,200
2873to recommend that all Americans
2874
2875593
287600:29:27,330 --> 00:29:29,768
2877restrict saturated fat
2878and cholesterol
2879
2880594
288100:29:29,898 --> 00:29:32,248
2882in their diets in order
2883to fight heart disease.
2884
2885595
288600:29:49,483 --> 00:29:52,268
2887This is the first advice
2888anywhere in the world
2889
2890596
289100:29:52,399 --> 00:29:54,575
2892telling people not
2893to eat saturated fat
2894
2895597
289600:29:54,705 --> 00:29:56,838
2897and cholesterol to
2898fight heart attacks
2899
2900598
290100:29:56,969 --> 00:29:59,145
2902that's like the
2903beginning of it all.
2904
2905599
290600:29:59,275 --> 00:30:02,017
2907That is what just
2908blossomed, bloomed,
2909
2910600
291100:30:02,148 --> 00:30:05,325
2912grew into the giant oak tree
2913of advice that we have now.
2914
2915601
291600:30:05,455 --> 00:30:08,676
2917We have no credible
2918evidence to say
2919
2920602
292100:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,461
2922that saturated fat
2923causes heart disease
2924
2925603
292600:30:11,592 --> 00:30:14,073
2927and that sounds crazy
2928to say when you look
2929
2930604
293100:30:14,203 --> 00:30:16,815
2932at our Government guidelines
2933and our dietary guidelines,
2934
2935605
293600:30:16,945 --> 00:30:20,688
2937but there is no high level,
2938credible evidence
2939
2940606
294100:30:20,819 --> 00:30:24,387
2942to show that saturated fat
2943causes heart disease.
2944
2945607
294600:30:24,518 --> 00:30:25,649
2947The interesting
2948thing about Key's
2949
2950608
295100:30:25,780 --> 00:30:27,826
2952he got virtually
2953everything wrong,
2954
2955609
295600:30:27,956 --> 00:30:31,220
2957but it never infected
2958his humility.
2959
2960610
296100:30:34,310 --> 00:30:35,529
2962We're living in a time right now
2963
2964611
296500:30:35,659 --> 00:30:37,096
2966when we've had a
2967narcissistic term
2968
2969612
297000:30:37,226 --> 00:30:39,011
2971people are very primitive
2972and narcissistic
2973
2974613
297500:30:39,141 --> 00:30:40,403
2976a lot of injuries in childhood,
2977
2978614
297900:30:40,534 --> 00:30:43,363
2980and it has caused us
2981to, umm, perhaps not
2982
2983615
298400:30:43,493 --> 00:30:45,452
2985have the most
2986secure sense of self
2987
2988616
298900:30:45,582 --> 00:30:48,194
2990and identity. People
2991attach themselves
2992
2993617
299400:30:48,324 --> 00:30:50,936
2995to one particular
2996approach to diet
2997
2998618
299900:30:51,066 --> 00:30:53,373
3000and it develops into an identity
3001
3002619
300300:30:53,503 --> 00:30:56,680
3004around which people
3005maintain a religious
3006
3007620
300800:30:56,811 --> 00:30:59,683
3009intensity, they
3010defend it as though
3011
3012621
301300:30:59,814 --> 00:31:02,599
3014any question in
3015their dogma is like
3016
3017622
301800:31:02,730 --> 00:31:04,645
3019you're questioning
3020their religious dogma
3021
3022623
302300:31:04,775 --> 00:31:07,909
3024or threatening their very sense
3025of the fabric of reality and so
3026
3027624
302800:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,348
3029we start looking around for
3030things to attach ourselves to
3031and political groups,
3032
3033625
303400:31:12,479 --> 00:31:16,135
3035religious organizations,
3036different diet fads.
3037
3038626
303900:31:16,265 --> 00:31:18,615
3040We attach ourselves
3041to these groups
3042
3043627
304400:31:18,746 --> 00:31:21,096
3045and we look to the groups
3046for our identity
3047
3048628
304900:31:21,227 --> 00:31:23,882
3050so our going forward
3051in life is somehow
3052
3053629
305400:31:24,012 --> 00:31:25,884
3055threatened by somebody saying,
3056
3057630
305800:31:26,014 --> 00:31:27,929
3059hey maybe fat's
3060not so bad for you.
3061
3062631
306300:31:28,060 --> 00:31:32,586
3064It's positively comedic but
3065it's becoming ridiculous.
3066
3067632
306800:31:32,716 --> 00:31:34,980
3069The United States'
3070coronary heart disease
3071
3072633
307300:31:35,110 --> 00:31:38,505
3074is so common that you
3075all wanna have to do
3076
3077634
307800:31:38,635 --> 00:31:41,334
3079to study the complete
3080natural history
3081
3082635
308300:31:41,464 --> 00:31:43,902
3084of the disease is to
3085take a sample of men,
3086
3087636
308800:31:44,032 --> 00:31:47,949
3089any sample of men that are known
3090healthy follow them, wait
3091a little while,
3092
3093637
309400:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,082
3095and a lot of them will have
3096coronary heart disease.
3097
3098638
309900:31:50,212 --> 00:31:53,041
3100But it wasn't very long
3101before it appeared
3102
3103639
310400:31:53,172 --> 00:31:56,001
3105there was some
3106connection between
3107
3108640
310900:31:56,131 --> 00:31:58,917
3110coronary heart disease and
3111cholesterol in the blood.
3112
3113641
311400:31:59,047 --> 00:32:02,398
3115No question, we hear over
3116and over and over again
3117
3118642
311900:32:02,529 --> 00:32:04,574
3120that cholesterol
3121equals mortality.
3122
3123643
312400:32:04,705 --> 00:32:06,446
3125We've seen it in
3126the commercials.
3127
3128644
312900:32:06,576 --> 00:32:07,969
3130Fleischmann's margarine!
3131
3132645
313300:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,579
3134It's the only leading
3135margarine made
3136
3137646
313800:32:09,710 --> 00:32:12,582
3139from 100% corn oil,
3140it has no cholesterol!
3141
3142647
314300:32:12,713 --> 00:32:15,063
3144We've heard about
3145it from our doctor.
3146
3147648
314800:32:15,194 --> 00:32:17,761
3149Over time, the build up
3150on the walls of
3151veins and arteries
3152
3153649
315400:32:17,892 --> 00:32:19,938
3155helping to clog them,
3156restricting blood flow,
3157
3158650
315900:32:20,068 --> 00:32:22,331
3160it's what causes heart
3161attacks and strokes.
3162
3163651
316400:32:22,462 --> 00:32:25,726
3165We've heard about it plenty
3166of times from our friends
3167and our family,
3168
3169652
317000:32:25,856 --> 00:32:29,817
3171and because of that,
3172we tend to think
3173it's just simply the truth.
3174
3175653
317600:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,559
3177It certainly has the degree of
3178repetition that we would expect.
3179
3180654
318100:32:32,689 --> 00:32:35,388
3182In the 60s and 70s
3183we were focusing
3184
3185655
318600:32:35,518 --> 00:32:38,217
3187more on the specific
3188types of cholesterol,
3189
3190656
319100:32:38,347 --> 00:32:43,483
3192LDL and HDL and LDL became
3193known as the bad cholesterol
3194
3195657
319600:32:43,613 --> 00:32:47,139
3197and all of a sudden,
3198medicine was focused on LDL.
3199
3200658
320100:32:47,269 --> 00:32:49,706
3202It was noticed that
3203higher cholesterol
3204
3205659
320600:32:49,837 --> 00:32:52,057
3207in the blood
3208appeared to correlate
3209
3210660
321100:32:52,187 --> 00:32:54,973
3212or track with higher
3213heart disease rates.
3214
3215661
321600:32:55,103 --> 00:32:58,977
3217Cholesterol is carried
3218in the blood by proteins called low density lipoproteins,
3219
3220662
322100:32:59,107 --> 00:33:01,631
3222or LDLs, the more
3223cholesterol we eat
3224
3225663
322600:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,156
3227the more the number of LDLs,
3228and that's dangerous.
3229
3230664
323100:33:04,286 --> 00:33:06,375
3232So essentially, the
3233idea was developed
3234
3235665
323600:33:06,506 --> 00:33:08,116
3237that the higher
3238cholesterol was getting
3239
3240666
324100:33:08,247 --> 00:33:10,901
3242in to your arteries
3243and was causing
3244
3245667
324600:33:11,032 --> 00:33:12,381
3247the arterial disease.
3248
3249668
325000:33:12,512 --> 00:33:15,906
3251Because the higher that
3252lipoprotein level goes
3253
3254669
325500:33:16,037 --> 00:33:17,647
3256the greater the risk
3257of heart disease.
3258
3259670
326000:33:17,778 --> 00:33:21,129
3261There are some studies
3262that show a correlation.
3263
3264671
326500:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,044
3266Does that mean
3267causation, and this
3268
3269672
327000:33:23,175 --> 00:33:25,525
3271is a very important
3272differentiation
3273
3274673
327500:33:25,655 --> 00:33:28,745
3276that is too infrequently made.
3277
3278674
327900:33:28,876 --> 00:33:30,443
3280Because something is correlated,
3281
3282675
328300:33:30,573 --> 00:33:32,575
3284doesn't mean it is the cause.
3285
3286676
328700:33:32,706 --> 00:33:35,013
3288So if high
3289cholesterol is present
3290
3291677
329200:33:35,143 --> 00:33:37,624
3293in people who are
3294having heart disease
3295
3296678
329700:33:37,754 --> 00:33:39,191
3298we have to look a little further
3299
3300679
330100:33:39,321 --> 00:33:41,715
3302as to why that is and if
3303there are other factors.
3304
3305680
330600:33:41,845 --> 00:33:43,717
3307When you really
3308look at the studies
3309
3310681
331100:33:43,847 --> 00:33:46,415
3312and you crunch the
3313data, LDL is not
3314
3315682
331600:33:46,546 --> 00:33:48,417
3317the best marker
3318for heart disease.
3319
3320683
332100:33:48,548 --> 00:33:51,333
3322What's even more
3323powerful, are your ratios.
3324
3325684
332600:33:51,464 --> 00:33:54,467
3327So whether it's your total
3328cholesterol to HDL ratio
3329
3330685
333100:33:54,597 --> 00:33:57,122
3332or your triglyceride
3333to HDL ratio.
3334
3335686
333600:33:57,252 --> 00:34:01,256
3337Those have better predictive
3338value than LDL itself.
3339
3340687
334100:34:01,387 --> 00:34:04,042
3342The ratios indicate your level
3343
3344688
334500:34:04,172 --> 00:34:07,132
3346of insulin sensitivity
3347or insulin resistance
3348
3349689
335000:34:07,262 --> 00:34:08,916
3351so the best cholesterol measures
3352
3353690
335400:34:09,047 --> 00:34:11,092
3355are not actually
3356even talking about
3357
3358691
335900:34:11,223 --> 00:34:14,182
3360a cholesterol thing,
3361they are indirectly
3362
3363692
336400:34:14,313 --> 00:34:16,445
3365talking about insulin
3366resistance and health.
3367
3368693
336900:34:16,576 --> 00:34:21,711
3370A lot of the fat research, well
3371look we saw fat in
3372the coronary arteries
3373
3374694
337500:34:21,842 --> 00:34:24,279
3376and we thought that fat must
3377be coming from somewhere,
3378it must come from
3379
3380695
338100:34:24,410 --> 00:34:25,976
3382circulating fat and
3383that must come from
3384
3385696
338600:34:26,107 --> 00:34:29,023
3387ingested fat, it was a very
3388simplistic kind of idea.
3389
3390697
339100:34:29,154 --> 00:34:34,159
3392The contrary opinion,
3393the alternative hypothesis
3394
3395698
339600:34:34,289 --> 00:34:37,075
3397which has been
3398around for, ooh, a couple
3399
3400699
340100:34:37,205 --> 00:34:40,078
3402of hundred years,
3403is that we get fat
3404
3405700
340600:34:40,208 --> 00:34:43,168
3407because we eat
3408carbohydrates like pasta
3409
3410701
341100:34:43,298 --> 00:34:45,083
3412potatoes, bread, they
3413used to be called
3414
3415702
341600:34:45,213 --> 00:34:49,957
3417simple carbohydrates,
3418uhm, now the terminology
3419
3420703
342100:34:50,088 --> 00:34:51,611
3422is changing to
3423adjust to the fact
3424
3425704
342600:34:51,741 --> 00:34:53,961
3427that a lot of people
3428think maybe these
3429
3430705
343100:34:54,092 --> 00:34:55,615
3432starches as my
3433mother called them
3434
3435706
343600:34:55,745 --> 00:34:57,182
3437are not quite so good for us.
3438
3439707
344000:34:57,312 --> 00:35:01,186
3441We focused in, just
3442by timing and bad luck
3443
3444708
344500:35:01,316 --> 00:35:04,493
3446on this idea that saturated
3447fat causes heart disease
3448
3449709
345000:35:04,624 --> 00:35:06,191
3451and we bought into
3452it even though
3453
3454710
345500:35:06,321 --> 00:35:09,716
3456the evidence ultimately
3457didn't really support it
3458
3459711
346000:35:09,846 --> 00:35:13,763
3461and we made everything
3462else we believed
3463
3464712
346500:35:13,894 --> 00:35:17,115
3466about diet have to be
3467reconciled with that.
3468
3469713
347000:35:19,029 --> 00:35:21,031
3471Dr. Keys
3472singling out of excessive...
3473
3474714
347500:35:27,690 --> 00:35:29,301
3476In front of us, day by day, are
3477
3478715
347900:35:29,431 --> 00:35:34,088
3480increasingly more and
3481more very tempting foods.
3482
3483716
348400:35:34,219 --> 00:35:38,179
3485In the mid-1960s, John Yudkin
3486comes on the scene, he's
3487a British scientist.
3488
3489717
349000:35:38,310 --> 00:35:40,268
3491He thinks sugar's the problem.
3492
3493718
349400:35:43,663 --> 00:35:46,622
3495When people have heart disease,
3496they don't just have
3497elevated cholesterol.
3498
3499719
350000:35:46,753 --> 00:35:49,495
3501In fact they often don't
3502have elevated cholesterol,
3503
3504720
350500:35:49,625 --> 00:35:52,585
3506they have a whole cluster
3507of metabolic abnormalities.
3508
3509721
351000:35:52,715 --> 00:35:55,196
351110, 15, 20 things
3512you could measure
3513
3514722
351500:35:55,327 --> 00:35:58,765
3516and Yudkin was saying
3517if I feed animals sugar
3518
3519723
352000:35:58,895 --> 00:36:00,854
3521or I feed college
3522students that I'm using
3523
3524724
352500:36:00,984 --> 00:36:02,551
3526in my experiments,
3527sugar, I could cause
3528
3529725
353000:36:02,682 --> 00:36:04,118
3531pretty much all of these things
3532
3533726
353400:36:04,249 --> 00:36:05,598
3535just by giving them
3536a lot of sugar.
3537
3538727
353900:36:07,426 --> 00:36:09,950
3540So you're apt to say
35412 or 300 years ago,
3542
3543728
354400:36:09,993 --> 00:36:11,256
3545the average consumption
3546
3547729
354800:36:11,386 --> 00:36:13,954
3549of sugar in this
3550country was about
3551
3552730
355300:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,435
3554four pounds a year and
3555that's splendid,
3556
3557731
355800:36:16,565 --> 00:36:18,045
3559I'd be very happy
3560if everybody had
3561
3562732
356300:36:18,176 --> 00:36:19,699
3564four pounds of sugar a year.
3565
3566733
356700:36:19,829 --> 00:36:21,657
3568They eat a hundred pounds.
3569
3570734
357100:36:30,623 --> 00:36:34,192
3572Moreover, many sugar
3573containing foods,
3574cakes, candies, cookies,
3575
3576735
357700:36:34,322 --> 00:36:36,106
3578chocolate, ice
3579cream, various kinds
3580
3581736
358200:36:36,237 --> 00:36:38,283
3583of puddings, also contain fat.
3584
3585737
358600:36:38,413 --> 00:36:41,242
3587You always eat some fat,
3588so if you eat
3589
3590738
359100:36:41,373 --> 00:36:44,202
3592high carb foods, you
3593raise your blood glucose
3594
3595739
359600:36:44,332 --> 00:36:47,466
3597you raise your fat
3598storing hormone insulin
3599
3600740
360100:36:47,596 --> 00:36:49,511
3602and you're gonna store
3603the fat that you eat.
3604
3605741
360600:36:49,642 --> 00:36:51,339
3607It's all individual how much
3608
3609742
361000:36:51,470 --> 00:36:54,951
3611you can tolerate,
3612but if you eat more
3613
3614743
361500:36:55,082 --> 00:36:58,085
3616than your body can
3617tolerate, then you will
3618
3619744
362000:36:58,216 --> 00:37:00,130
3621most likely gain
3622weight, gain fat.
3623
3624745
362500:37:14,188 --> 00:37:16,234
3626And instead of looking at it,
3627
3628746
362900:37:16,364 --> 00:37:18,714
3630Ancel Keys just jumps
3631right on top of it
3632
3633747
363400:37:18,845 --> 00:37:22,631
3635in the media and turns
3636this guy into a nut job.
3637
3638748
363900:37:22,762 --> 00:37:25,808
3640Keys was really a bully
3641when it came to
3642
3643749
364400:37:25,939 --> 00:37:28,246
3645trying to quash anybody
3646who opposed him.
3647
3648750
364900:37:28,376 --> 00:37:30,248
3650Ancel Keys wasn't
3651gonna let anyone
3652
3653751
365400:37:30,378 --> 00:37:32,162
3655come in and rain on his parade.
3656
3657752
365800:37:32,293 --> 00:37:35,818
3659He published a
3660nine page rebuttal
3661
3662753
366300:37:35,949 --> 00:37:37,907
3664in a journal called
3665Atherosclerosis,
3666
3667754
366800:37:38,038 --> 00:37:40,823
3669in print, he said Yudkin is
3670a "mountain of nonsense."
3671
3672755
367300:37:49,528 --> 00:37:51,530
3674...in the etiology
3675of heart disease.
3676
3677756
367800:37:51,660 --> 00:37:53,445
3679Keys and his colleagues managed
3680
3681757
368200:37:53,575 --> 00:37:56,099
3683to paint Yudkin as a quack
3684and portray Yudkin
3685
3686758
368700:37:56,230 --> 00:37:58,232
3688and his sugar theory as quackery
3689
3690759
369100:37:58,363 --> 00:38:01,148
3692and to say there is absolutely
3693no evidence to support it.
3694
3695760
369600:38:07,546 --> 00:38:14,509
3697Keys was more-- had more
3698political influence
3699and more savvy maybe
3700
3701761
370200:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,730
3703than Yudkin and somehow,
3704this dietary, and we were
3705
3706762
370700:38:17,860 --> 00:38:20,776
3708spending money testing
3709the dietary fat hypothesis
3710
3711763
371200:38:20,907 --> 00:38:23,997
3713so even though the tests
3714weren't confirming it,
3715
3716764
371700:38:24,127 --> 00:38:25,955
3718the more money they spent,
3719the more people
3720
3721765
372200:38:26,086 --> 00:38:28,697
3723were wedded to the hypothesis
3724having to be right.
3725
3726766
372700:38:28,828 --> 00:38:31,744
3728These studies are
3729extremely expensive
3730
3731767
373200:38:31,874 --> 00:38:34,050
3733and there have been
3734enough good studies done
3735
3736768
373700:38:34,181 --> 00:38:36,444
3738to support our
3739moderate approach,
3740
3741769
374200:38:36,575 --> 00:38:39,142
3743which is looking
3744at balanced foods,
3745
3746770
374700:38:39,273 --> 00:38:43,016
3748vegetables, fruits, grains, and
3749lean meat and dairy products.
3750
3751771
375200:38:43,146 --> 00:38:46,324
3753The argument once again
3754is it has to be tested
3755
3756772
375700:38:46,454 --> 00:38:48,543
3758when you believe it's
3759wrong, Prima facie,
3760
3761773
376200:38:48,674 --> 00:38:50,284
3763you're not gonna spend
3764the money to test it.
3765
3766774
376700:38:50,415 --> 00:38:52,504
3768Why are these
3769nutrition scientist
3770
3771775
377200:38:52,634 --> 00:38:55,115
3773just not more curious
3774about other ideas?
3775
3776776
377700:38:55,245 --> 00:38:56,769
3778I was at a conference recently
3779
3780777
378100:38:56,899 --> 00:38:58,510
3782where we talked about
3783a low carb study
3784
3785778
378600:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,860
3787where they reversed
3788the diagnosis
3789
3790779
379100:39:00,990 --> 00:39:04,342
3792of diabetes for, it was a
3793large university-based study
3794
3795780
379600:39:04,472 --> 00:39:06,735
3797in just one year, on
3798a very low-carb diet
3799
3800781
380100:39:06,866 --> 00:39:10,217
3802and one of them said wait
3803what, diabetes reversal,
3804
3805782
380600:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,828
3807wow, how'd you do that, can you
3808just explain your study
3809a little bit to us
3810
3811783
381200:39:12,959 --> 00:39:15,309
3813because that's what we,
3814as nutrition experts
3815
3816784
381700:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,832
3818we really need to do in America.
3819
3820785
382100:39:16,963 --> 00:39:19,357
3822And I
3823actually got up to ask
3824
3825786
382600:39:19,487 --> 00:39:20,967
3827a question from
3828the audience I said--
3829
3830787
383100:39:21,097 --> 00:39:23,622
3832I said, did you hear that,
3833that was 60% reversal
3834
3835788
383600:39:23,752 --> 00:39:26,755
3837of diabetes, should that
3838not be headline news
3839
3840789
384100:39:26,886 --> 00:39:28,453
3842and should you not be curious?
3843
3844790
384500:39:28,583 --> 00:39:30,542
3846Why are you not even
3847curious about these ideas?
3848
3849791
385000:39:31,281 --> 00:39:32,805
3851You know it makes
3852you think of stories
3853
3854792
385500:39:32,935 --> 00:39:34,241
3856like the McKenzie family.
3857
3858793
385900:39:34,372 --> 00:39:36,156
3860Parents in South
3861Dakota who realized
3862
3863794
386400:39:36,286 --> 00:39:38,463
3865they had to take matters
3866into their own hands
3867
3868795
386900:39:38,593 --> 00:39:41,379
3870when their son lost five
3871pounds in five days.
3872
3873796
387400:39:41,509 --> 00:39:44,251
3875I called the doctor that morning
3876and I explained that
3877I thought my son
3878
3879797
388000:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,775
3881had rapidly lost weight
3882and something was wrong
3883
3884798
388500:39:46,906 --> 00:39:48,386
3886and we knew within five minutes
3887
3888799
388900:39:48,516 --> 00:39:50,300
3890of him doing
3891a urine analysis test
3892
3893800
389400:39:50,431 --> 00:39:52,346
3895that there was
3896sugar in his urine
3897
3898801
389900:39:52,477 --> 00:39:54,914
3900and we were escorted
3901to the hospital
3902
3903802
390400:39:55,044 --> 00:39:56,698
3905to learn how to
3906manage our new life.
3907
3908803
390900:39:59,092 --> 00:40:00,485
3910We both concluded that we were
3911
3912804
391300:40:00,615 --> 00:40:03,009
3914gonna make drastic
3915changes in our diet,
3916
3917805
391800:40:03,139 --> 00:40:04,924
3919reducing carbohydrate intake.
3920
3921806
392200:40:06,186 --> 00:40:07,927
3923Shortly thereafter, we were told
3924
3925807
392600:40:08,057 --> 00:40:09,581
3927that we didn't need to do that,
3928
3929808
393000:40:09,711 --> 00:40:12,801
3931that we could feed our
3932son recently diagnosed
3933
3934809
393500:40:12,932 --> 00:40:15,108
3936with Type 1 diabetes
3937whatever he wanted to eat.
3938
3939810
394000:40:15,238 --> 00:40:16,979
3941Take a look.
3942
3943811
394400:40:17,110 --> 00:40:18,981
3945I'm trusting these
3946people, who are now
3947
3948812
394900:40:19,112 --> 00:40:20,418
3950in charge of caring for my son,
3951
3952813
395300:40:20,548 --> 00:40:22,420
3954and they're telling
3955me give him pancakes
3956
3957814
395800:40:22,550 --> 00:40:24,683
3959and give him french fries
3960and cupcakes
3961
3962815
396300:40:24,813 --> 00:40:27,120
3964and pizza, because
3965now that your kid
3966
3967816
396800:40:27,250 --> 00:40:29,992
3969has this disease, his life
3970is pretty crummy already
3971
3972817
397300:40:30,123 --> 00:40:31,603
3974and the worst thing you could do
3975
3976818
397700:40:31,733 --> 00:40:33,169
3978as a parent is to try
3979and change his food.
3980
3981819
398200:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,042
3983I fed my kid the exact
3984prescribed amount
3985
3986820
398700:40:36,172 --> 00:40:39,262
3988of carbohydrates, I
3989pre-bolused his insulin
3990
3991821
399200:40:39,393 --> 00:40:41,482
3993I put a continuous
3994glucose monitor on him
3995
3996822
399700:40:41,613 --> 00:40:43,658
3998I bought him a
3999diabetes alert dog,
4000
4001823
400200:40:43,789 --> 00:40:46,139
4003I literally did everything
4004in my own capacity
4005
4006824
400700:40:47,183 --> 00:40:50,143
4008to follow the guidelines
4009and manage his disease
4010
4011825
401200:40:50,273 --> 00:40:51,405
4013and I failed miserably.
4014
4015826
401600:40:51,536 --> 00:40:53,451
4017- Riv?
4018
4019827
402000:40:55,975 --> 00:40:59,152
4021Do you want the yogurt,
4022the tablets, or the gel?
4023
4024828
402500:40:59,805 --> 00:41:02,242
4026I put a big message out
4027in the social media groups
4028
4029829
403000:41:02,372 --> 00:41:04,374
4031that I'm connected to in
4032the diabetes community
4033
4034830
403500:41:04,505 --> 00:41:07,377
4036and I asked, how are
4037you people achieving
4038
4039831
404000:41:07,508 --> 00:41:09,031
4041normal blood sugars,
4042what are you doing?
4043
4044832
404500:41:09,162 --> 00:41:11,077
4046And about every fifth
4047answer I got
4048
4049833
405000:41:11,207 --> 00:41:12,470
4051was that these
4052people were changing
4053
4054834
405500:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,473
4056their children's
4057diet and implementing
4058
4059835
406000:41:15,603 --> 00:41:16,735
4061a very, very low carb diet.
4062
4063836
406400:41:18,780 --> 00:41:20,434
4065We removed
4066all the processed carbs,
4067
4068837
406900:41:20,565 --> 00:41:24,090
4070the flour, the sugar,
4071the grains, the fruit
4072
4073838
407400:41:24,220 --> 00:41:25,918
4075anything that would
4076spike his blood sugar
4077
4078839
407900:41:26,048 --> 00:41:27,963
4080and so the next
4081appointment we had
4082
4083840
408400:41:28,094 --> 00:41:30,009
4085with our endocrinologist
4086I skipped in there
4087
4088841
408900:41:30,139 --> 00:41:31,227
4090like I had won the lottery.
4091
4092842
409300:41:31,358 --> 00:41:33,012
4094Oh my goodness, I stumbled upon
4095
4096843
409700:41:33,142 --> 00:41:36,145
4098a low-carb diet and look
4099at my son's blood sugars
4100
4101844
410200:41:36,276 --> 00:41:38,278
4103and during that
4104appointment, our very
4105
4106845
410700:41:38,408 --> 00:41:40,541
4108kind-hearted doctor looked at me
4109
4110846
411100:41:40,672 --> 00:41:42,891
4112and told me my son
4113was going to resent me
4114
4115847
411600:41:43,022 --> 00:41:45,198
4117for the rest of his life,
4118that this way
4119
4120848
412100:41:45,328 --> 00:41:47,505
4122of eating is not
4123sustainable, that I'm
4124
4125849
412600:41:47,635 --> 00:41:49,985
4127subjecting my son to
4128an eating disorder
4129
4130850
413100:41:50,116 --> 00:41:51,987
4132and he also handed me
4133a business card
4134
4135851
413600:41:52,118 --> 00:41:55,121
4137to go see a therapist,
4138uhm, because he thought
4139
4140852
414100:41:55,251 --> 00:41:57,253
4142maybe I was struggling
4143with some things
4144
4145853
414600:41:57,384 --> 00:42:00,430
4147and had some issues
4148for wanting to do this
4149
4150854
415100:42:00,561 --> 00:42:01,910
4152for my son and to
4153change his diet.
4154
4155855
415600:42:02,041 --> 00:42:04,478
4157And I'm told to follow
4158these guidelines
4159
4160856
416100:42:04,609 --> 00:42:06,524
4162because without
4163those carbohydrates,
4164
4165857
416600:42:06,654 --> 00:42:09,570
4167my child won't grow properly
4168and his brain function
4169
4170858
417100:42:09,701 --> 00:42:11,877
4172will be compromised,
4173so when you're a parent
4174
4175859
417600:42:12,007 --> 00:42:13,531
4177of a Type 1 and you're told
4178
4179860
418000:42:13,661 --> 00:42:15,533
4181the American
4182Diabetes Association,
4183
4184861
418500:42:15,663 --> 00:42:18,318
4186this large governing body,
4187that must know
4188
4189862
419000:42:18,448 --> 00:42:19,928
4191exactly what we're up against,
4192
4193863
419400:42:20,059 --> 00:42:23,062
4195they're recommending this,
4196that's intimidating.
4197
4198864
419900:42:24,629 --> 00:42:26,544
4200We either had to
4201either make a change
4202
4203865
420400:42:26,674 --> 00:42:28,850
4205or accept mediocre care.
4206
4207866
420800:42:28,981 --> 00:42:31,592
4209I'm an orthopedic
4210surgeon, it seems now
4211
4212867
421300:42:31,723 --> 00:42:34,290
4214as if it's the patients
4215that are trying
4216
4217868
421800:42:34,421 --> 00:42:36,728
4219to make the medical
4220community aware
4221
4222869
422300:42:36,858 --> 00:42:38,599
4224of what they
4225already know of what
4226
4227870
422800:42:38,730 --> 00:42:42,603
4229the patients know,
4230because they have tried
4231
4232871
423300:42:42,734 --> 00:42:46,128
4234to follow the rules as given
4235to them and they failed.
4236
4237872
423800:42:46,259 --> 00:42:48,740
4239When somebody comes
4240to me with the belief
4241
4242873
424300:42:48,870 --> 00:42:52,047
4244that they-- and they tell me,
4245I believe your son
4246
4247874
424800:42:52,178 --> 00:42:53,571
4249is gonna do better
4250if you feed them
4251
4252875
425300:42:53,701 --> 00:42:57,096
4254more carbohydrates,
4255I know they're wrong.
4256
4257876
425800:42:57,226 --> 00:42:59,446
4259And when it comes to
4260my son, I'm gonna do
4261
4262877
426300:42:59,577 --> 00:43:01,970
4264what I know as opposed
4265to what they believe.
4266
4267878
426800:43:03,276 --> 00:43:05,931
4269Our son went from
4270taking 45 to 50
4271
4272879
427300:43:06,061 --> 00:43:09,761
4274units of insulin every day
4275to maybe 15 units of insulin.
4276
4277880
427800:43:09,891 --> 00:43:12,328
4279If you extrapolate
4280that over every child
4281
4282881
428300:43:12,459 --> 00:43:14,026
4284with this disease,
4285you're gonna understand
4286
4287882
428800:43:14,156 --> 00:43:16,245
4289that that's gonna
4290have a marked effect
4291
4292883
429300:43:16,376 --> 00:43:18,987
4294on the profitability
4295of the disease.
4296
4297884
429800:43:19,118 --> 00:43:22,208
4299I think we underestimate
4300peoples ability
4301
4302885
430300:43:22,338 --> 00:43:24,602
4304to make a change, and
4305I think if there were
4306
4307886
430800:43:25,515 --> 00:43:27,953
4309doctors and nurses
4310and dieticians
4311
4312887
431300:43:28,083 --> 00:43:29,607
4314who were willing
4315to give patients
4316
4317888
431800:43:29,737 --> 00:43:31,173
4319that option, I think the face
4320
4321889
432200:43:31,304 --> 00:43:32,566
4323of diabetes would be different.
4324
4325890
432600:43:32,697 --> 00:43:34,612
4327We're a very weird
4328culture, because
4329
4330891
433100:43:34,742 --> 00:43:37,484
4332we have an endless
4333amount of energy
4334
4335892
433600:43:37,615 --> 00:43:39,355
4337to talk about almost everything,
4338
4339893
434000:43:39,486 --> 00:43:42,968
4341but when it comes
4342to the core issues
4343
4344894
434500:43:43,098 --> 00:43:45,797
4346and the ones that just
4347effect everything,
4348
4349895
435000:43:45,927 --> 00:43:48,495
4351such as family or such as diet,
4352
4353896
435400:43:48,626 --> 00:43:52,107
4355we have-- you know, just went
4356through an election.
4357
4358897
435900:43:52,238 --> 00:43:54,893
4360We talked about
4361everything, but no one
4362
4363898
436400:43:55,023 --> 00:43:57,722
4365ever talked about diet or family
4366or any of this stuff.
4367
4368899
436900:43:57,852 --> 00:44:01,508
4370Now you have kids
4371with Type 2 diabetes
4372you have fatty liver disease,
4373
4374900
437500:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,684
4376you have sleep apnea,
4377none of this stuff
4378
4379901
438000:44:03,815 --> 00:44:06,861
4381existed before and if you
4382think it's just old people
4383
4384902
438500:44:06,992 --> 00:44:09,472
4386using this, it's getting
4387younger and younger
4388
4389903
439000:44:09,603 --> 00:44:11,344
4391-and younger.
4392-It's an epidemic
4393
4394904
439500:44:11,474 --> 00:44:13,738
4396and it's one of those
4397things, like hey,
4398
4399905
440000:44:13,868 --> 00:44:15,783
4401powers that be, hey
4402folks in charge,
4403
4404906
440500:44:15,914 --> 00:44:18,264
4406let's, this is gonna
4407break the bank.
4408
4409907
441000:44:18,394 --> 00:44:22,311
4411How do people scream
4412all day about Medicare
4413
4414908
441500:44:22,442 --> 00:44:25,010
4416-and this doesn't come up?
4417-It never comes up.
4418
4419909
442000:44:25,140 --> 00:44:26,707
4421Because it's not sexy,
4422it doesn't work.
4423
4424910
442500:44:26,838 --> 00:44:29,231
4426You want votes, telling people
4427
4428911
442900:44:29,362 --> 00:44:33,235
4430like hard news, like, hey mom,
4431you're poisoning your kid
4432
4433912
443400:44:33,366 --> 00:44:35,585
4435get your shit together,
4436no votes for you.
4437
4438913
443900:44:37,892 --> 00:44:40,329
4440The current recommendations,
4441it started in
4442
4443914
444400:44:40,460 --> 00:44:43,463
4445the late 60s in response
4446to a documentary
4447
4448915
444900:44:43,593 --> 00:44:46,335
4450that aired on CBS News
4451called Hunger in America.
4452
4453916
445400:44:46,771 --> 00:44:48,686
4455This spring, a private agency,
4456
4457917
445800:44:48,816 --> 00:44:50,688
4459The Citizens' Board of Inquiry,
4460
4461918
446200:44:50,818 --> 00:44:52,907
4463released an exhaustive
4464report claiming
4465
4466919
446700:44:53,038 --> 00:44:56,302
4468that serious hunger
4469exists many places
4470
4471920
447200:44:56,432 --> 00:44:58,783
4473in the United States,
4474out of a total population
4475
4476921
447700:44:58,913 --> 00:45:01,089
4478of 200 million,
4479the report states,
4480
4481922
448200:45:01,220 --> 00:45:03,831
448330 million Americans
4484are impoverished.
4485
4486923
448700:45:03,962 --> 00:45:07,313
4488With family income
4489below $3000 a year.
4490
4491924
449200:45:07,443 --> 00:45:09,315
4493Five million of these
4494people are helped
4495
4496925
449700:45:09,445 --> 00:45:12,231
4498by two existing
4499Federal food programs.
4500
4501926
450200:45:12,361 --> 00:45:14,886
4503Now, a new figure must be added.
4504
4505927
450600:45:15,016 --> 00:45:17,279
4507Of the 30 million
4508who ae impoverished,
4509
4510928
451100:45:17,410 --> 00:45:19,891
451210 million Americans,
4513whether or not
4514
4515929
451600:45:20,021 --> 00:45:22,154
4517they are reached by
4518Federal aid, are hungry.
4519
4520930
452100:45:22,284 --> 00:45:24,286
4522The Federal food
4523program might be
4524
4525931
452600:45:24,417 --> 00:45:25,853
4527better administered
4528by the Department
4529
4530932
453100:45:25,984 --> 00:45:27,942
4532of Health, Education and Welfare
4533
4534933
453500:45:28,073 --> 00:45:30,728
4536or by a special commission
4537whose only concern
4538
4539934
454000:45:30,858 --> 00:45:33,643
4541would be to see that
4542hungry Americans are fed.
4543
4544935
454500:45:33,774 --> 00:45:37,212
4546This leads right to 1968
4547and the McGovern Committee.
4548
4549936
455000:45:37,343 --> 00:45:38,910
4551Public calls to
4552address the issue
4553
4554937
455500:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,999
4556of hunger had been
4557building, ever since
4558
4559938
456000:45:41,129 --> 00:45:43,088
4561Robert F. Kennedy had
4562toured the devastated
4563
4564939
456500:45:43,218 --> 00:45:44,611
4566slums of Mississippi.
4567
4568940
456900:45:44,742 --> 00:45:46,787
4570It's obviously as
4571great a poverty
4572
4573941
457400:45:46,918 --> 00:45:48,920
4575as we've had and
4576they're going to lead
4577
4578942
457900:45:49,050 --> 00:45:50,922
4580a very difficult, unhappy life
4581
4582943
458300:45:51,052 --> 00:45:52,837
4584for the rest of their existence.
4585
4586944
458700:45:52,967 --> 00:45:55,013
4588But it was George
4589McGovern, the Senator
4590
4591945
459200:45:55,143 --> 00:45:57,102
4593from South Dakota who
4594would head a committee
4595
4596946
459700:45:57,232 --> 00:46:00,235
4598that started in 1968,
4599privy to the poverty
4600
4601947
460200:46:00,366 --> 00:46:01,933
4603that the nation
4604was now aware of,
4605
4606948
460700:46:02,063 --> 00:46:03,761
4608the former director
4609of Food for Peace
4610
4611949
461200:46:03,891 --> 00:46:06,024
4613in JFK's administration
4614was intent
4615
4616950
461700:46:06,154 --> 00:46:08,853
4618on bringing change that would
4619eventually effect all of us.
4620
4621951
462200:46:08,983 --> 00:46:13,553
4623It's always bothered me
4624to see hungry people
4625
4626952
462700:46:13,683 --> 00:46:15,773
4628in the world, I like to eat.
4629
4630953
463100:46:17,035 --> 00:46:20,473
4632If we are to save
4633ourselves in this country
4634
4635954
463600:46:20,603 --> 00:46:23,693
4637it seems to me that
4638a radical restructuring
4639
4640955
464100:46:23,824 --> 00:46:28,263
4642of our policies and priorities
4643is absolutely necessary.
4644
4645956
464600:46:31,963 --> 00:46:34,487
4647There is nothing
4648more to say, really.
4649
4650957
465100:46:34,617 --> 00:46:38,099
4652Senator Kennedy died
4653at 1.44 this evening.
4654
4655958
465600:46:41,189 --> 00:46:42,756
4657We've got to draw
4658the line at violence,
4659
4660959
466100:46:42,887 --> 00:46:44,976
4662so I have mixed emotions,
4663I'm supporting
4664
4665960
466600:46:45,106 --> 00:46:47,282
4667the President as he tries to
4668bring this war to a close.
4669
4670961
467100:46:48,240 --> 00:46:49,981
4672It was quite sad,
4673really, to break up
4674
4675962
467600:46:50,111 --> 00:46:52,374
4677with the Beatles, 'cause to see
4678it just fall apart was sad.
4679
4680963
468100:46:55,073 --> 00:46:56,422
4682We have a mystery story
4683
4684964
468500:46:56,552 --> 00:46:58,163
4686out of Washington, five people
4687
4688965
468900:46:58,293 --> 00:46:59,817
4690have been arrested and
4691charged with breaking
4692
4693966
469400:46:59,947 --> 00:47:01,383
4695into the headquarters of
4696the Democratic National
4697
4698967
469900:47:01,514 --> 00:47:02,820
4700Committee in the
4701middle of the night.
4702
4703968
470400:47:02,950 --> 00:47:06,084
4705When you think of 1972, 1973,
4706
4707969
470800:47:06,214 --> 00:47:08,651
4709we're still in Vietnam,
4710it's not a popular war.
4711
4712970
471300:47:08,782 --> 00:47:13,700
4714-Then 1972 comes around
4715and we have Watergate.
4716
4717971
471800:47:13,831 --> 00:47:15,702
4719People have gotta
4720know whether or not
4721
4722972
472300:47:15,833 --> 00:47:18,139
4724their President's a crook,
4725well I'm not a crook.
4726
4727973
472800:47:18,270 --> 00:47:21,708
4729People were just in
4730a haze about diet.
4731
4732974
473300:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,363
4734No one was really
4735paying attention to
4736this McGovern Committee,
4737
4738975
473900:47:24,493 --> 00:47:26,365
4740we had bigger problems.
4741
4742976
474300:47:26,495 --> 00:47:28,933
4744-This complacency at the time
4745
4746977
474700:47:29,063 --> 00:47:31,718
4748is what allowed these
4749health myths to seep in.
4750
4751978
475200:47:32,937 --> 00:47:34,852
4753As you know, I
4754represent all sorts
4755
4756979
475700:47:34,982 --> 00:47:37,419
4758of delicious things,
4759greasy bacon,
4760
4761980
476200:47:38,638 --> 00:47:41,467
4763potato chips, french
4764fries, potatoes,
4765
4766981
476700:47:41,902 --> 00:47:45,166
4768fatty meats and gobs of
4769butter on everything.
4770
4771982
477200:47:45,297 --> 00:47:47,516
4773-Now as you know, us fats
4774
4775983
477600:47:47,647 --> 00:47:49,475
4777separately are just little guys,
4778
4779984
478000:47:49,605 --> 00:47:51,999
4781but put us all together
4782and what do you have?
4783
4784985
478500:47:52,130 --> 00:47:53,348
4786You have millions of calories,
4787
4788986
478900:47:53,479 --> 00:47:55,002
4790that's what,
4791I have to store those
4792
4793987
479400:47:55,133 --> 00:47:57,439
4795calories as fat and I
4796can't take it anymore.
4797
4798988
479900:47:57,570 --> 00:48:00,355
4800I'm getting bigger
4801and bigger and bigger!
4802
4803989
480400:48:00,486 --> 00:48:02,096
4805And the bigger he gets,
4806the harder
4807
4808990
480900:48:02,227 --> 00:48:03,881
4810his heart cells have
4811to work, Mr. Fat,
4812
4813991
481400:48:04,011 --> 00:48:04,882
4815you're a real killer!
4816
4817992
481800:48:06,492 --> 00:48:08,276
4819You know, I don't know
4820the answer, but why is it
4821
4822993
482300:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,235
4824whenever a new study
4825comes out, it's always
4826
4827994
482800:48:10,365 --> 00:48:13,325
4829talking about how food
4830is gonna kill you?
4831
4832995
483300:48:13,455 --> 00:48:14,892
4834I think that's a
4835major misdirection
4836
4837996
483800:48:15,022 --> 00:48:17,285
4839to what we should be focused on.
4840
4841997
484200:48:17,416 --> 00:48:19,809
4843Food should be used
4844to prevent illness,
4845
4846998
484700:48:19,940 --> 00:48:22,203
4848not to just help reverse
4849it once it's too late.
4850
4851999
485200:48:22,334 --> 00:48:23,901
4853One of the areas we
4854haven't talked about
4855
48561000
485700:48:24,031 --> 00:48:25,903
4858until recently, is
4859how food can affect
4860
48611001
486200:48:26,033 --> 00:48:27,121
4863your brain health.
4864
48651002
486600:48:28,427 --> 00:48:29,907
4867I became interested
4868in mental health
4869
48701003
487100:48:30,037 --> 00:48:31,909
4872and the connection
4873between mental health
4874
48751004
487600:48:32,039 --> 00:48:33,867
4877and diet after I
4878had developed a lot
4879
48801005
488100:48:33,998 --> 00:48:36,652
4882of my own health
4883problems and had changed
4884
48851006
488600:48:36,783 --> 00:48:39,351
4887my diet and discovered that diet
4888
48891007
489000:48:39,481 --> 00:48:41,614
4891had a lot more to do with health
4892
48931008
489400:48:41,744 --> 00:48:44,791
4895and mental health than I had
4896ever been taught that it had.
4897
48981009
489900:48:44,922 --> 00:48:46,619
4900In my early 40s,
4901about ten years ago,
4902
49031010
490400:48:46,749 --> 00:48:48,534
4905I developed a number
4906of mysterious symptoms
4907
49081011
490900:48:48,664 --> 00:48:50,536
4910that I think a lot
4911of people, especially
4912
49131012
491400:48:50,666 --> 00:48:52,538
4915middle aged women
4916will identify with,
4917
49181013
491900:48:52,668 --> 00:48:55,802
4920so things like chronic
4921pain, fibromyalgia,
4922
49231014
492400:48:55,933 --> 00:48:59,414
4925IBS, chronic fatigue, migraines,
4926
49271015
492800:48:59,545 --> 00:49:02,548
4929uh, lots of different
4930symptoms that all
4931
49321016
493300:49:02,678 --> 00:49:04,811
4934of my very smart
4935Harvard-affiliated doctors
4936
49371017
493800:49:04,942 --> 00:49:07,248
4939couldn't help me with.
4940After about six months
4941
49421018
494300:49:07,379 --> 00:49:09,947
4944of trial and error, I
4945arrived at this diet
4946
49471019
494800:49:10,077 --> 00:49:12,775
4949that was completely upside down
4950
49511020
495200:49:12,906 --> 00:49:14,690
4953from what I had been
4954taught was good for me.
4955
49561021
495700:49:14,821 --> 00:49:16,779
4958It was basically a
4959mostly meat diet,
4960
49611022
496200:49:16,910 --> 00:49:19,391
4963high in meat and
4964fat and cholesterol
4965
49661023
496700:49:19,521 --> 00:49:22,002
4968and when I arrived at that diet,
4969
49701024
497100:49:22,133 --> 00:49:23,525
4972all of the symptoms
4973that I had been
4974
49751025
497600:49:23,656 --> 00:49:26,746
4977struggling with
4978completely went away
4979
49801026
498100:49:26,876 --> 00:49:30,793
4982and I thought, you know, this
4983diet actually is also
4984
49851027
498600:49:30,924 --> 00:49:32,273
4987improving my mental
4988health and I'm
4989
49901028
499100:49:32,404 --> 00:49:34,536
4992a psychiatrist,
4993the most powerful way
4994
49951029
499600:49:34,667 --> 00:49:35,973
4997to change your brain chemistry
4998
49991030
500000:49:36,103 --> 00:49:37,583
5001would be through food,
5002because that's where
5003
50041031
500500:49:37,713 --> 00:49:39,802
5006brain chemicals come from
5007in the first place.
5008
50091032
501000:49:39,933 --> 00:49:42,066
5011If you're getting
5012most of your sugar
5013
50141033
501500:49:42,196 --> 00:49:44,459
5016and most of your
5017glucose from the
5018
50191034
502000:49:44,590 --> 00:49:46,461
5021outside of the body,
5022you run the risk
5023
50241035
502500:49:46,592 --> 00:49:49,464
5026of getting spikes,
5027uh, peaks and troughs
5028
50291036
503000:49:49,595 --> 00:49:51,205
5031in your blood sugar
5032and insulin level
5033
50341037
503500:49:51,336 --> 00:49:54,034
5036and those can destabilize
5037brain chemistry,
5038
50391038
504000:49:54,165 --> 00:49:55,993
5041so those can create mood swings,
5042
50431039
504400:49:56,123 --> 00:49:58,996
5045insomnia, irritability, changes
5046
50471040
504800:49:59,126 --> 00:50:00,823
5049in appetite throughout
5050the course of the day.
5051
50521041
505300:50:00,954 --> 00:50:02,477
5054When you eat a ketogenic diet,
5055
50561042
505700:50:02,608 --> 00:50:05,480
5058you're using fat
5059primarily for energy
5060
50611043
506200:50:05,611 --> 00:50:08,962
5063and the brain is using,
5064to a large extent,
5065
50661044
506700:50:09,093 --> 00:50:10,616
5068ketones instead of glucose.
5069
50701045
507100:50:10,746 --> 00:50:13,967
5072Today, if you're
5073anywhere near Google
5074
50751046
507600:50:14,098 --> 00:50:15,360
5077you will learn that
5078
50791047
508000:50:15,490 --> 00:50:17,144
5081this is known as
5082dietary ketosis.
5083
50841048
508500:50:20,147 --> 00:50:24,804
5086Most healthcare professionals
5087are familiar with ketoacidosis,
5088and that's a state
5089
50901049
509100:50:24,934 --> 00:50:26,762
5092where the body is
5093out of control.
5094
50951050
509600:50:26,893 --> 00:50:28,590
5097Diabetes it out of control.
5098
50991051
510000:50:28,721 --> 00:50:30,723
5101Blood glucose is
5102through the roof,
5103
51041052
510500:50:30,853 --> 00:50:32,507
5106insulin is not able
5107to keep up with
5108
51091053
511000:50:32,638 --> 00:50:34,814
5111this glucose derangement
5112and so that's
5113
51141054
511500:50:34,944 --> 00:50:37,164
5116a life threatening
5117state when you're
5118
51191055
512000:50:37,295 --> 00:50:39,253
5121a Type 2 diabetic of control.
5122
51231056
512400:50:39,384 --> 00:50:43,083
5125Nutritional ketosis is
5126quite a different scenario.
5127
51281057
512900:50:43,214 --> 00:50:46,217
5130Blood sugar's
5131absolutely under control,
5132
51331058
513400:50:46,347 --> 00:50:48,393
5135the patient is healthy
5136in every single way
5137
51381059
513900:50:48,523 --> 00:50:52,266
5140electrolytes, insulin, glucose,
5141perfectly, perfectly controlled.
5142
51431060
514400:50:52,397 --> 00:50:55,182
5145We have now trained
5146the body to switch over
5147
51481061
514900:50:55,313 --> 00:50:58,185
5150from burning carbohydrate
5151as the primary fuel.
5152
51531062
515400:50:58,316 --> 00:51:01,188
5155Now the individual
5156becomes fat adapted
5157
51581063
515900:51:01,319 --> 00:51:05,279
5160and they use fat as the
5161primary source of energy
5162
51631064
516400:51:05,410 --> 00:51:07,586
5165and that's really
5166the difference between
5167
51681065
516900:51:07,716 --> 00:51:10,632
5170a very unhealthy and
5171a very healthy state.
5172
51731066
517400:51:13,722 --> 00:51:19,076
5175We had a scientific question in
5176the 1960s where the researchers
5177asked the wrong question,
5178
51791067
518000:51:19,206 --> 00:51:21,078
5181but they were questions
5182we needed answered.
5183
51841068
518500:51:21,208 --> 00:51:23,428
5186We know that the
5187way you gain weight
5188
51891069
519000:51:23,558 --> 00:51:28,041
5191is you take in more calories
5192than you don't-- than you burn.
5193
51941070
519500:51:28,172 --> 00:51:30,261
5196And those calories
5197can be fat or they
5198
51991071
520000:51:30,391 --> 00:51:31,479
5201can be carbohydrate.
5202
52031072
520400:51:31,610 --> 00:51:33,220
5205And so they get this hypothesis
5206
52071073
520800:51:33,351 --> 00:51:35,092
5209which sounds reasonable
5210that fat people
5211
52121074
521300:51:35,222 --> 00:51:36,789
5214get fat because they
5215accumulate a little
5216
52171075
521800:51:36,919 --> 00:51:40,184
5219of extra calories every day
5220and we could get
5221
52221076
522300:51:40,314 --> 00:51:42,099
5224back to this by
5225not asking how much
5226
52271077
522800:51:42,229 --> 00:51:44,101
5229extra calories, they
5230don't have to really
5231
52321078
523300:51:44,231 --> 00:51:46,146
5234confront the problems
5235with the hypothesis
5236
52371079
523800:51:46,277 --> 00:51:48,844
5239and that becomes the
5240theory ever since.
5241
52421080
524300:51:48,975 --> 00:51:50,585
5244The history of
5245science once again,
5246
52471081
524800:51:50,716 --> 00:51:53,110
5249is full of common sensical facts
5250
52511082
525200:51:53,240 --> 00:51:55,416
5253that turned out to be dead wrong
5254when we did the science.
5255
52561083
525700:51:55,547 --> 00:51:58,724
5258You're certain, you use
5259words like it proves
5260
52611084
526200:51:58,854 --> 00:52:03,250
5263when you look at the data, it
5264either isn't there, or we
5265just didn't do the experiment.
5266
52671085
526800:52:03,381 --> 00:52:05,861
5269Speaking of
5270experiments, here's a timeline
5271
52721086
527300:52:05,992 --> 00:52:08,125
5274of events that happened
5275with the McGovern Committee.
5276
52771087
527800:52:08,255 --> 00:52:10,214
5279After a year of
5280fighting for funding,
5281
52821088
528300:52:10,344 --> 00:52:13,347
5284the committee operations
5285began in 1969.
5286
52871089
528800:52:13,478 --> 00:52:15,306
5289There were Democrats
5290and Republicans
5291
52921090
529300:52:15,436 --> 00:52:17,003
5294including future
5295Presidential candidates,
5296
52971091
529800:52:17,134 --> 00:52:20,354
5299George McGovern, Walter
5300Mondale and Bob Dole.
5301
53021092
530300:52:20,485 --> 00:52:22,139
5304The initial goals
5305of the committee
5306
53071093
530800:52:22,269 --> 00:52:24,184
5309centered around hunger
5310and malnutrition
5311
53121094
531300:52:24,315 --> 00:52:26,578
5314and this led to the
5315legislation in 1970
5316
53171095
531800:52:26,708 --> 00:52:28,188
5319with principles of
5320free food stamps
5321
53221096
532300:52:28,319 --> 00:52:30,408
5324and nationwide standards
5325for eligibility.
5326
53271097
532800:52:32,236 --> 00:52:34,847
5329It was in 1971 that
5330the committee expanded
5331
53321098
533300:52:34,977 --> 00:52:37,066
5334to focus on eating habits
5335in poor neighborhoods,
5336
53371099
533800:52:37,197 --> 00:52:40,461
5339but in 1972, this
5340extremely pressing issue
5341
53421100
534300:52:40,592 --> 00:52:42,071
5344was put on hold so that McGovern
5345
53461101
534700:52:42,202 --> 00:52:44,944
5348could run for President.
5349When he lost 49 States
5350
53511102
535200:52:45,074 --> 00:52:46,293
5353to Richard Nixon,
5354who would eventually
5355
53561103
535700:52:46,424 --> 00:52:48,774
5358resign and be
5359replaced by this guy,
5360
53611104
536200:52:48,904 --> 00:52:50,602
5363it was back to fixing
5364America's health.
5365
53661105
536700:53:05,704 --> 00:53:08,707
5368Unfortunately, dietary
5369guidelines, were based
5370
53711106
537200:53:08,837 --> 00:53:12,537
5373on the singular focus
5374to lower cholesterol.
5375
53761107
537700:53:12,667 --> 00:53:14,321
5378Why we're treating heart disease
5379
53801108
538100:53:14,452 --> 00:53:16,758
5382by supposedly lowering
5383bad cholesterol,
5384
53851109
538600:53:16,889 --> 00:53:18,847
5387we're gonna help
5388people lose weight.
5389
53901110
539100:53:19,935 --> 00:53:22,329
5392If you tell a public
5393of 250 million people
5394
53951111
539600:53:22,460 --> 00:53:24,026
5397what they're eating
5398is gonna kill em
5399
54001112
540100:53:24,157 --> 00:53:25,376
5402they're gonna probably listen.
5403
54041113
540500:53:26,377 --> 00:53:28,030
5406And the unintended
5407consequence is that
5408
54091114
541000:53:28,161 --> 00:53:30,032
5411someone is gonna step in
5412and take advantage
5413
54141115
541500:53:30,163 --> 00:53:32,600
5416of these people when
5417it doesn't work, right?
5418
54191116
542000:53:34,341 --> 00:53:36,387
5421Coincidentally, drug
5422companies were spending
5423
54241117
542500:53:36,517 --> 00:53:40,217
5426millions of dollars developing
5427drugs to target LBL.
5428
54291118
543000:53:40,347 --> 00:53:42,958
5431In the 80s and 90s,
5432a class of drugs
5433
54341119
543500:53:43,089 --> 00:53:44,482
5436was invented called the statins,
5437
54381120
543900:53:44,612 --> 00:53:47,528
5440and these drugs did
5441lower the cholesterol
5442
54431121
544400:53:47,659 --> 00:53:49,791
5445very effectively and
5446they also were shown
5447
54481122
544900:53:49,922 --> 00:53:51,228
5450to lower heart disease rates.
5451
54521123
545300:53:51,358 --> 00:53:53,230
5454But the question
5455that's probably more
5456
54571124
545800:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,406
5459interesting to me,
5460that I think should be
5461
54621125
546300:53:55,536 --> 00:53:58,191
5464more interesting
5465to you, is does it
5466help you live longer?
5467
54681126
546900:53:58,322 --> 00:54:00,367
5470It might reduce heart attacks
5471
54721127
547300:54:00,498 --> 00:54:03,501
5474by 20 or 30 percent at best,
5475and it doesn't
5476
54771128
547800:54:03,631 --> 00:54:05,590
5479really reduce mortality much.
5480
54811129
548200:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,548
5483We like simple
5484answers that we have
5485
54861130
548700:54:07,679 --> 00:54:09,724
5488treatments for, but
5489that's not where
5490
54911131
549200:54:09,855 --> 00:54:13,946
5493the best evaluation and
5494treatment for heart disease is.
5495
54961132
549700:54:14,076 --> 00:54:16,078
5498It's absolutely
5499amazing to me,
5500
55011133
550200:54:16,209 --> 00:54:18,472
5503the trajectory of
5504statins and low fat diets
5505
55061134
550700:54:18,603 --> 00:54:19,908
5508with everything
5509we have today stem
5510
55111135
551200:54:20,039 --> 00:54:21,649
5513from a Committee
5514that was focused
5515
55161136
551700:54:21,780 --> 00:54:23,303
5518on poverty and
5519people who weren't
5520
55211137
552200:54:23,434 --> 00:54:25,479
5523getting enough to
5524eat. And somehow
5525
55261138
552700:54:25,610 --> 00:54:28,526
5528cholesterol got into the
5529mix, thanks to Ancel Keys.
5530
55311139
553200:54:28,656 --> 00:54:30,354
5533-And in a complete U-turn...
5534
55351140
553600:54:30,484 --> 00:54:32,921
5537...in 1974, they
5538expanded the committee
5539
55401141
554100:54:33,052 --> 00:54:34,662
5542to focus on overnutrition.
5543
55441142
554500:54:34,793 --> 00:54:36,708
5546The very recommendations made
5547
55481143
554900:54:36,838 --> 00:54:38,884
5550led to people
5551eating way too much
5552
55531144
555400:54:39,014 --> 00:54:41,278
5555of the wrong kind of food,
5556so now we have
5557
55581145
555900:54:41,408 --> 00:54:42,844
5560just the opposite problem,
5561we don't have
5562
55631146
556400:54:42,975 --> 00:54:46,239
5565a hunger problem, we
5566have an obesity epidemic.
5567
55681147
556900:54:47,632 --> 00:54:49,460
5570- The Senate Committee
5571
55721148
557300:54:49,590 --> 00:54:51,940
5574finally issued a
5575set of dietary goals
5576
55771149
557800:54:52,071 --> 00:54:55,944
5579in December 1977, the
5580McGovern Committee
5581
55821150
558300:54:56,075 --> 00:54:58,251
5584issued a set of
5585nutritional guidelines
5586
55871151
558800:54:58,382 --> 00:55:00,645
5589for all Americans,
5590intended to battle
5591
55921152
559300:55:00,775 --> 00:55:02,995
5594heart disease, cancers, strokes,
5595
55961153
559700:55:03,125 --> 00:55:04,866
5598high blood pressure, obesity.
5599
56001154
560100:55:04,997 --> 00:55:07,304
5602In the dietary
5603guidelines for Americans,
5604
56051155
560600:55:07,434 --> 00:55:10,307
5607they recommend fewer
5608calories, less fat,
5609
56101156
561100:55:10,437 --> 00:55:13,092
5612less saturated fat,
5613less cholesterol,
5614
56151157
561600:55:13,222 --> 00:55:15,007
5617more poly-unsaturated fat.
5618
56191158
562000:55:15,137 --> 00:55:18,489
5621All in favor of nominating
5622vegetable oils, say aye.
5623
56241159
562500:55:18,619 --> 00:55:20,491
5626Aye.
5627
56281160
562900:55:20,621 --> 00:55:22,319
5630Less sugar, less salt,
5631
56321161
563300:55:22,449 --> 00:55:24,321
5634more fiber, more starchy food.
5635
56361162
563700:55:24,451 --> 00:55:25,974
5638The Committee's original report
5639
56401163
564100:55:26,105 --> 00:55:27,889
5642urged Americans
5643to reduce the risk
5644
56451164
564600:55:28,020 --> 00:55:30,283
5647of heart attacks by
5648reducing their intake
5649
56501165
565100:55:30,414 --> 00:55:33,373
5652of cholesterol, down
5653to the equivalent
5654of about one egg a day.
5655
56561166
565700:55:33,504 --> 00:55:35,070
5658This great
5659experiment we were doing
5660
56611167
566200:55:35,201 --> 00:55:37,508
5663with tax dollars
5664seemed to have one idea
5665
56661168
566700:55:37,638 --> 00:55:40,989
5668repeated over and over,
5669cholesterol is bad,
5670cholesterol is bad.
5671
56721169
567300:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,991
5674On its own or in conjunction
5675with other things.
5676
56771170
567800:55:43,122 --> 00:55:44,602
5679One way to look at it, is that
5680
56811171
568200:55:44,732 --> 00:55:47,300
5683saturated fats are healthy
5684when you're not
5685
56861172
568700:55:47,431 --> 00:55:49,955
5688eating carbohydrates,
5689or that saturated fat
5690
56911173
569200:55:50,085 --> 00:55:52,392
5693was never unhealthy all along,
5694
56951174
569600:55:52,523 --> 00:55:54,351
5697but that gets you into the realm
5698
56991175
570000:55:54,481 --> 00:55:57,092
5701of you're telling people that
5702what they've believed, is wrong.
5703
57041176
570500:55:57,223 --> 00:55:59,356
5706As time has
5707gone on, both doctors
5708
57091177
571000:55:59,486 --> 00:56:01,836
5711and private citizens have
5712done their own experiments.
5713
57141178
571500:56:01,967 --> 00:56:03,838
5716As a software engineer,
5717I look a lot
5718
57191179
572000:56:03,969 --> 00:56:06,754
5721at networks.
5722Networks are basically
5723
57241180
572500:56:06,885 --> 00:56:09,278
5726objects talking to
5727each other and a lot
5728
57291181
573000:56:09,409 --> 00:56:11,019
5731of understanding a
5732network is kind of like
5733
57341182
573500:56:11,150 --> 00:56:13,848
5736understanding a brain,
5737no one cell in the brain
5738
57391183
574000:56:13,979 --> 00:56:16,242
5741controls your whole body,
5742and actually
5743
57441184
574500:56:16,373 --> 00:56:18,244
5746cholesterol was part of a larger
5747
57481185
574900:56:18,375 --> 00:56:20,202
5750network of objects and how it is
5751
57521186
575300:56:20,333 --> 00:56:23,031
5754that they can move about to
5755provide us with what we need.
5756
57571187
575800:56:23,162 --> 00:56:24,424
5759Another thing we
5760don't talk about
5761
57621188
576300:56:24,555 --> 00:56:26,339
5764is how complicated
5765the human body is.
5766
57671189
576800:56:26,470 --> 00:56:27,775
5769For the Government
5770to even recommend
5771
57721190
577300:56:27,819 --> 00:56:29,429
5774what you should be
5775eating in the first place
5776
57771191
577800:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,649
5779is one thing, but
5780for them to do it
5781
57821192
578300:56:31,779 --> 00:56:33,607
5784in such a simplistic
5785way, is another.
5786
57871193
578800:56:33,738 --> 00:56:35,217
5789There were certain
5790scientists that
5791
57921194
579300:56:35,348 --> 00:56:37,045
5794had some hypothesis
5795and they said
5796
57971195
579800:56:37,176 --> 00:56:39,221
5799well some of the
5800stuff we're looking at
5801
58021196
580300:56:39,352 --> 00:56:41,746
5804is leaning towards
5805red meat might be
5806
58071197
580800:56:41,876 --> 00:56:45,358
5809bad for your heart, the
5810Commission would say
5811well, what do you think?
5812
58131198
581400:56:45,489 --> 00:56:47,404
5815Doctors took issue
5816with that at the hearing
5817
58181199
581900:56:47,534 --> 00:56:49,406
5820saying that eight
5821studies involving
5822
58231200
582400:56:49,536 --> 00:56:51,843
5825five thousand patients
5826failed to show
5827
58281201
582900:56:51,973 --> 00:56:53,410
5830hard medical evidence that diet
5831
58321202
583300:56:53,540 --> 00:56:55,412
5834has anything to do
5835with heart attacks.
5836
58371203
583800:56:55,542 --> 00:56:57,892
5839I pleaded in my report
5840and will plead again
5841
58421204
584300:56:58,023 --> 00:57:00,547
5844orally here for more
5845research on the problem
5846
58471205
584800:57:00,678 --> 00:57:02,680
5849before we make announcements
5850to the American public.
5851
58521206
585300:57:03,681 --> 00:57:07,075
5854Yes, before you make
5855announcements to the public,
5856you should have data
5857
58581207
585900:57:07,206 --> 00:57:10,775
5860that proves what you're saying.
5861Maybe like Dave Feldman did.
5862
58631208
586400:57:10,905 --> 00:57:15,432
5865My story's a bit interesting.
5866I found that I could
5867move my cholesterol
5868
58691209
587000:57:15,562 --> 00:57:18,783
5871up and down with the
5872dietary fat that I ate.
5873
58741210
587500:57:18,913 --> 00:57:22,003
5876The more fat I ate,
5877the lower my LDL-C.
5878
58791211
588000:57:22,134 --> 00:57:25,311
5881The less fat I ate,
5882the higher my LDL-C.
5883
58841212
588500:57:27,008 --> 00:57:28,836
5886On a three
5887day diet of over
5888
58891213
589000:57:28,967 --> 00:57:32,100
58915000 calories and
5892450 grams of fat,
5893
58941214
589500:57:32,231 --> 00:57:34,581
5896he lowered every
5897marker of cholesterol.
5898
58991215
590000:57:34,712 --> 00:57:36,322
5901I eventually got a number
5902of other people
5903
59041216
590500:57:36,453 --> 00:57:38,237
5906to replicate this,
5907the success rate
5908
59091217
591000:57:38,367 --> 00:57:40,457
5911is somewhere around
591285% of those people
5913
59141218
591500:57:40,587 --> 00:57:42,023
5916when on a low carb
5917high fat diet.
5918
59191219
592000:57:42,154 --> 00:57:44,983
5921Fatty cheeses, fatty
5922meats, fatty nuts
5923
59241220
592500:57:45,113 --> 00:57:47,855
5926and in doing so, even
5927though their calories
5928
59291221
593000:57:47,986 --> 00:57:49,335
5931increase substantially,
5932even though
5933
59341222
593500:57:49,466 --> 00:57:52,077
5936their saturated fat just
5937jumps through the roof,
5938
59391223
594000:57:52,207 --> 00:57:55,689
5941their LDL-C and their total
5942cholesterol plummeted.
5943
59441224
594500:57:55,820 --> 00:57:57,474
5946It's a very unintuitive,
5947but sure enough
5948
59491225
595000:57:57,604 --> 00:58:01,478
5951the more fat they would eat,
5952the lower their LDL-C.
5953
59541226
595500:58:01,608 --> 00:58:03,436
5956Dave Feldman
5957is not a doctor at all.
5958
59591227
596000:58:03,567 --> 00:58:07,222
5961This guy took all of the
5962science that was available
5963
59641228
596500:58:07,353 --> 00:58:09,529
5966and figured it out, yet members
5967
59681229
596900:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,183
5970of a publicly funded Committee
5971
59721230
597300:58:11,313 --> 00:58:12,880
5974took ten years to
5975find nothing and when
5976
59771231
597800:58:13,011 --> 00:58:15,361
5979they were pressured to
5980change recommendations
5981
59821232
598300:58:15,492 --> 00:58:16,710
5984with no science to back it up
5985
59861233
598700:58:16,841 --> 00:58:18,495
5988they ran around in
5989circles for a while
5990
59911234
599200:58:18,625 --> 00:58:19,713
5993and came out with
5994the same report
5995
59961235
599700:58:19,844 --> 00:58:21,410
5998but this time they
5999said, oh, you can
6000
60011236
600200:58:21,541 --> 00:58:23,500
6003have some meat and some salt.
6004
60051237
600600:58:23,630 --> 00:58:25,632
6007I would only argue that Senators
6008
60091238
601000:58:25,763 --> 00:58:29,027
6011don't have the luxury that
6012a research scientist does
6013
60141239
601500:58:29,157 --> 00:58:32,509
6016of waiting until every last
6017shred of evidence is in.
6018
60191240
602000:58:32,639 --> 00:58:34,989
6021So there you have
6022it, the national advice
6023
60241241
602500:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,688
6026that everything you
6027see today is based on.
6028
60291242
603000:58:37,818 --> 00:58:41,387
6031That report was then taken over
6032
60331243
603400:58:41,518 --> 00:58:43,911
6035to become Government--
6036official Government policy
6037
60381244
603900:58:44,042 --> 00:58:46,435
6040so it went over to the US
6041Department of Agriculture
6042
60431245
604400:58:46,566 --> 00:58:50,178
6045and by 1980, they came
6046out with the policy
6047
60481246
604900:58:50,309 --> 00:58:53,268
6050which was the dietary
6051guidelines for all Americans.
6052
60531247
605400:58:53,399 --> 00:58:55,793
6055I think it's audacious
6056that the Government
6057
60581248
605900:58:55,923 --> 00:58:58,622
6060based on very weak
6061evidence should tell
6062
60631249
606400:58:58,752 --> 00:59:01,581
6065Americans what to eat, a
6066healthy population at the time.
6067
60681250
606900:59:01,712 --> 00:59:03,757
6070How do you tell some
6071guy from the Midwest
6072
60731251
607400:59:03,888 --> 00:59:06,020
6075who's been living on
6076beef his entire life
6077
60781252
607900:59:06,151 --> 00:59:08,457
6080to start eating vegetables,
6081especially at that time
6082
60831253
608400:59:08,588 --> 00:59:10,764
6085you couldn't get em
6086year round, you couldn't
6087
60881254
608900:59:10,895 --> 00:59:13,637
6090get fruit year round, it
6091wasn't like it is today
6092
60931255
609400:59:13,767 --> 00:59:17,510
6095where we refrigerate and ship
6096fruits and vegetables
6097around the world.
6098
60991256
610000:59:17,641 --> 00:59:19,207
6101You're telling people
6102from different parts
6103
61041257
610500:59:19,338 --> 00:59:21,383
6106of the United States what to do,
6107
61081258
610900:59:21,514 --> 00:59:23,385
6110how to do it and everyone's just
6111
61121259
611300:59:23,516 --> 00:59:24,604
6114throwing their hands up, going,
6115
61161260
611700:59:24,735 --> 00:59:26,084
6118I'm gonna do the best I can.
6119
61201261
612100:59:27,651 --> 00:59:29,566
6122Do I think the
6123Government was complicit
6124
61251262
612600:59:29,696 --> 00:59:32,438
6127in causing this problem, yes.
6128
61291263
613000:59:32,569 --> 00:59:35,833
6131Do I think they meant to
6132do it, absolutely not.
6133
61341264
613500:59:35,963 --> 00:59:38,575
6136I think McGovern's heart
6137was in the right place,
6138
61391265
614000:59:38,705 --> 00:59:40,489
6141they just went the
6142wrong way about it.
6143
61441266
614500:59:40,620 --> 00:59:43,884
6146But we went on that experiment
6147and the Government put us
6148
61491267
615000:59:43,928 --> 00:59:46,670
6151on that experiment, they didn't
6152ask us about it,
6153they didn't
6154
61551268
615600:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,369
6157ask our advice, they just told
6158us how to eat, then they
6159told the food industry,
6160
61611269
616200:59:50,499 --> 00:59:54,329
6163uh, asked the food industry to
6164produce low fat food products.
6165
61661270
616700:59:54,460 --> 00:59:57,115
6168Industry
6169slowly is responding
6170
61711271
617200:59:57,245 --> 00:59:58,682
6173to it, producing
6174foods that are lower
6175
61761272
617700:59:58,812 --> 01:00:01,075
6178in salt and fat and
6179so on and people
6180
61811273
618201:00:01,206 --> 01:00:02,207
6183are beginning to
6184get the message.
6185
61861274
618701:00:02,337 --> 01:00:04,339
6188Low cholesterol, no cholesterol,
6189
61901275
619101:00:04,470 --> 01:00:06,341
6192-lowers cholesterol.
6193-Good fat, bad fat,
6194
61951276
619601:00:06,472 --> 01:00:08,605
6197-low fat, non-fat.
6198-Milk suddenly came
6199
62001277
620101:00:08,735 --> 01:00:12,783
6202in, you know, a bewildering
6203number of varieties
6204
62051278
620601:00:12,913 --> 01:00:16,134
6207all of them reduced in fat
6208and whether or not
6209
62101279
621101:00:16,264 --> 01:00:17,701
6212it was a result
6213of the experiment,
6214
62151280
621601:00:17,831 --> 01:00:20,704
6217this coincided with
6218the obesity explosions
6219
62201281
622101:00:20,834 --> 01:00:23,141
6222in obesity and diabetes
6223we've been seeing today.
6224
62251282
622601:00:27,275 --> 01:00:30,844
6227The 1980s brought in all
6228sorts of brand new foods.
6229
62301283
623101:00:40,637 --> 01:00:42,377
6232There's a
6233Dannon body in everybody.
6234
62351284
623601:00:42,508 --> 01:00:44,336
6237Unlike some yogurts,
6238it's low in fat.
6239
62401285
624101:00:44,466 --> 01:00:45,337
6242Wow!
6243
62441286
624501:00:45,467 --> 01:00:47,426
6246The whole thought pattern was,
6247
62481287
624901:00:47,556 --> 01:00:49,863
6250if you didn't eat fat,
6251you couldn't get fat.
6252
62531288
625401:00:49,994 --> 01:00:52,344
6255Not having fat does
6256not automatically
6257
62581289
625901:00:52,474 --> 01:00:54,172
6260make something health food
6261and that's where
6262
62631290
626401:00:54,302 --> 01:00:57,001
6265we get into this
6266debate about is it just
6267
62681291
626901:00:57,131 --> 01:00:59,786
6270calories in, calories out,
6271does it not matter
6272
62731292
627401:00:59,917 --> 01:01:01,701
6275what we eat as long as
6276we're burning
6277
62781293
627901:01:01,832 --> 01:01:03,181
6280enough calories to burn it off?
6281
62821294
628301:01:03,311 --> 01:01:04,922
6284We still don't know if
6285eating a low fat diet
6286
62871295
628801:01:05,052 --> 01:01:08,186
6289is a good thing, some of
6290the smartest scientists
6291
62921296
629301:01:08,316 --> 01:01:10,579
6294and the President of the
6295National Academy of Sciences
6296
62971297
629801:01:10,710 --> 01:01:13,887
6299in the late 1970s called
6300this a huge experiment
6301
63021298
630301:01:14,018 --> 01:01:17,456
6304in which the American
6305public were the subjects.
6306
63071299
630801:01:29,424 --> 01:01:31,775
6309Let's examine why
6310there is so much
6311
63121300
631301:01:31,905 --> 01:01:34,516
6314confusion about good nutrition.
6315
63161301
631701:01:34,647 --> 01:01:36,388
6318One reason is that
6319we have been given
6320
63211302
632201:01:36,518 --> 01:01:38,738
6323a lot of misinformation, usually
6324
63251303
632601:01:38,869 --> 01:01:40,479
6327by those looking
6328to make a profit.
6329
63301304
633101:01:40,609 --> 01:01:43,264
6332-Today, there are still
6333
63341305
633501:01:43,395 --> 01:01:46,267
6336many unusual ideas as
6337to what you should eat.
6338
63391306
634001:01:49,270 --> 01:01:51,620
6341People tend to believe
6342that just because
6343
63441307
634501:01:51,751 --> 01:01:54,406
6346it's in print or on
6347television, it must be true.
6348
63491308
635001:01:54,536 --> 01:01:56,669
6351The 80s also
6352brought in all sorts
6353
63541309
635501:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,192
6356of new fitness trends.
6357
63581310
635901:02:01,848 --> 01:02:03,589
6360Make the commitment now
6361
63621311
636301:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,591
6364and watch how fast
6365you see results.
6366
63671312
636801:02:08,333 --> 01:02:09,682
6369Are you ready to do the workout?
6370
63711313
637201:02:09,813 --> 01:02:13,425
6373We couldn't get enough
6374of fitness in the 1980s,
6375
63761314
637701:02:13,555 --> 01:02:15,819
6378but although we were
6379doing all of this,
6380
63811315
638201:02:15,949 --> 01:02:17,298
6383we weren't getting any thinner.
6384
63851316
638601:02:17,429 --> 01:02:19,170
6387Sugar consumption increases
6388
63891317
639001:02:19,300 --> 01:02:20,780
6391in part with the introduction of
6392
63931318
639401:02:20,911 --> 01:02:22,826
6395high-fructose corn syrup
6396and that's
6397
63981319
639901:02:22,956 --> 01:02:24,915
6400an unintended
6401consequence of these
6402
64031320
640401:02:25,045 --> 01:02:27,526
6405Government actions,
6406it's arguably the case
6407
64081321
640901:02:27,656 --> 01:02:31,573
6410if they had done
6411nothing, we wouldn't
6412
64131322
641401:02:31,704 --> 01:02:32,923
6415have had this epidemic,
6416we might have had
6417
64181323
641901:02:33,053 --> 01:02:36,927
6420it anyway, but they probably,
6421
64221324
642301:02:37,057 --> 01:02:39,190
6424almost assuredly, made it worse.
6425
64261325
642701:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,844
6428For 25 years we've been pushing
6429
64301326
643101:02:40,974 --> 01:02:43,585
6432a low fat dogma, that
6433said eat less fat
6434
64351327
643601:02:43,716 --> 01:02:47,198
6437first it said eat less
6438total fat and you'll have
6439less heart disease,
6440
64411328
644201:02:47,328 --> 01:02:51,028
6443-less cancer and
6444you'll weigh less.
6445-But that's not exactly true.
6446
64471329
644801:02:51,158 --> 01:02:53,900
6449This started because
6450there's incontrovertible
6451
64521330
645301:02:54,031 --> 01:02:56,729
6454evidence that
6455saturated fat is bad
6456
64571331
645801:02:56,860 --> 01:03:00,037
6459and that is well established
6460in long-term trials.
6461
64621332
646301:03:00,167 --> 01:03:02,213
6464You build up in a
6465community, institutions
6466
64671333
646801:03:02,343 --> 01:03:04,868
6469organizations, everybody
6470collects to them,
6471
64721334
647301:03:04,998 --> 01:03:07,914
6474people who think
6475just like they do.
6476
64771335
647801:03:08,045 --> 01:03:10,787
6479Like we like each other,
6480we respect each other
6481
64821336
648301:03:10,917 --> 01:03:13,964
6484'cause we think alike
6485you know.
6486
64871337
648801:03:14,094 --> 01:03:15,269
6489I know nothing about
6490you other than that
6491
64921338
649301:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,402
6494you think like I do,
6495so I respect
6496
64971339
649801:03:17,532 --> 01:03:20,405
6499the way you think and
6500institutions do this
6501
65021340
650301:03:20,535 --> 01:03:21,798
6504and then somebody
6505else comes along
6506
65071341
650801:03:21,928 --> 01:03:23,974
6509from the outside
6510and says, oh you guys
6511
65121342
651301:03:24,104 --> 01:03:26,367
6514all got it wrong, look,
6515here's the evidence,
6516
65171343
651801:03:26,498 --> 01:03:28,892
6519all these obese diabetic
6520people neck-deep
6521
65221344
652301:03:29,022 --> 01:03:32,025
6524in obesity and diabetes,
6525we gotta change everything.
6526
65271345
652801:03:32,939 --> 01:03:36,900
6529It's hard to accept,
6530it's hard to back out of.
6531
65321346
653301:03:37,030 --> 01:03:38,902
6534There's no way to back out of it
6535
65361347
653701:03:39,032 --> 01:03:40,991
6538that doesn't destroy
6539your credibility.
6540
65411348
654201:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,733
6543In this country, we
6544have freedom of choice
6545
65461349
654701:03:44,864 --> 01:03:47,388
6548to say what we wanna say,
6549we have freedom
6550
65511350
655201:03:47,519 --> 01:03:50,827
6553of choice to print
6554what we wanna print
6555
65561351
655701:03:50,957 --> 01:03:52,829
6558we have freedom
6559of choice to think
6560
65611352
656201:03:52,959 --> 01:03:55,048
6563what we wanna
6564think, but we do not
6565
65661353
656701:03:55,179 --> 01:03:58,008
6568have freedom of choice
6569for our own healthcare.
6570
65711354
657201:03:58,138 --> 01:04:00,967
6573Why, I guess profit
6574and politics and power.
6575
65761355
657701:04:01,098 --> 01:04:05,232
6578The MDs and nutritionists
6579and all people
6580
65811356
658201:04:05,363 --> 01:04:08,192
6583need to work together
6584for the total benefit
6585
65861357
658701:04:08,322 --> 01:04:09,889
6588of this country's health.
6589
65901358
659101:04:10,020 --> 01:04:12,805
6592So in 1992, we did
6593the most brilliant
6594
65951359
659601:04:12,936 --> 01:04:14,851
6597thing we've ever
6598done as a country.
6599
66001360
660101:04:14,981 --> 01:04:18,071
6602We started the food pyramid.
6603
66041361
660501:04:18,202 --> 01:04:22,119
6606Now, this is so ridiculous
6607that I can't even
6608
66091362
661001:04:22,249 --> 01:04:24,904
6611ever remember--
6612because in my own mind
6613
66141363
661501:04:25,035 --> 01:04:27,211
6616it makes no sense,
6617I always have to
6618
66191364
662001:04:27,341 --> 01:04:29,256
6621read it off of a piece of paper.
6622
66231365
662401:04:29,387 --> 01:04:32,433
6625The pyramid at the base,
6626the biggest part
6627
66281366
662901:04:32,564 --> 01:04:34,958
6630was bread, cereal and rice, six
6631
66321367
663301:04:35,088 --> 01:04:37,699
6634to eleven servings,
6635not per week,
6636
66371368
663801:04:37,830 --> 01:04:39,179
6639hang on folks, per day!
6640
66411369
664201:04:39,310 --> 01:04:40,920
6643If you went to the
6644maximum vegetables,
6645
66461370
664701:04:41,051 --> 01:04:42,443
6648that's five vegetables a day.
6649
66501371
665101:04:42,574 --> 01:04:45,055
6652Five servings, and
6653fruit, if you went
6654
66551372
665601:04:45,185 --> 01:04:47,884
6657to the max, that's four,
6658that's 20 servings
6659
66601373
666101:04:48,014 --> 01:04:50,016
6662of carbohydrates
6663every day and then
6664
66651374
666601:04:50,147 --> 01:04:51,931
6667when you get into
6668milk and dairy,
6669
66701375
667101:04:52,062 --> 01:04:54,847
6672milk has carbohydrates,
6673there's lactose in milk
6674
66751376
667601:04:54,978 --> 01:04:56,544
6677that's like drinking sugar,
6678and on meat?
6679
66801377
668101:04:56,675 --> 01:04:59,199
6682The most you can have
6683in any given day
6684
66851378
668601:04:59,330 --> 01:05:02,550
6687is three servings.
6688Now it gets even worse
6689
66901379
669101:05:02,681 --> 01:05:04,204
6692because we start wondering this,
6693
66941380
669501:05:04,335 --> 01:05:07,164
6696what's a serving, what's
6697a serving of meat?
6698
66991381
670001:05:07,294 --> 01:05:08,817
6701They didn't tell you
6702how many ounces.
6703
67041382
670501:05:08,948 --> 01:05:11,037
6706Well I could tell you
6707it was two to three
6708
67091383
671001:05:11,168 --> 01:05:13,387
6711ounces per serving,
6712but who knew that?
6713
67141384
671501:05:13,518 --> 01:05:14,911
6716You gotta
6717eat the right stuff.
6718
67191385
672001:05:15,041 --> 01:05:17,348
6721Start with a little meat,
6722a little dairy,
6723
67241386
672501:05:17,478 --> 01:05:19,002
6726you gotta add a bunch of fruit.
6727
67281387
672901:05:19,132 --> 01:05:21,613
6730You have Timon and Pumba
6731telling people
6732
67331388
673401:05:21,743 --> 01:05:24,572
6735-to eat more grains!
6736-Bread, cereal, rice,
6737
67381389
673901:05:24,703 --> 01:05:27,488
6740-noodles.
6741-And eat a whole lot less fat
6742
67431390
674401:05:27,619 --> 01:05:29,403
6745and if you thought
6746that was ridiculous,
6747
67481391
674901:05:29,534 --> 01:05:31,623
6750the servings ad they did give us
6751
67521392
675301:05:31,753 --> 01:05:34,321
6754with the food pyramid
6755did not match
6756
67571393
675801:05:34,452 --> 01:05:37,063
6759what the Government told us
6760that servings should be
6761
67621394
676301:05:37,194 --> 01:05:39,631
6764on the packages of food,
6765those servings,
6766
67671395
676801:05:39,761 --> 01:05:41,372
6769which are also mandated
6770by the Government,
6771
67721396
677301:05:41,502 --> 01:05:44,375
6774were completely different
6775from the servings
6776
67771397
677801:05:44,505 --> 01:05:46,768
6779that we heard about
6780when it came to
6781
67821398
678301:05:46,899 --> 01:05:48,945
6784what was on the pyramid.
6785
67861399
678701:05:49,075 --> 01:05:54,733
6788The new food label represents
6789nothing less than a major
6790victory for the consumer
6791
67921400
679301:05:54,863 --> 01:05:56,909
6794and for the public health.
6795
67961401
679701:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,476
6798When you're given a percentage
6799
68001402
680101:05:58,519 --> 01:06:02,045
6802and you see that this
6803is 50% or this is 10%
6804
68051403
680601:06:02,175 --> 01:06:04,090
6807of your expected daily total
6808
68091404
681001:06:04,221 --> 01:06:06,179
6811then you know very
6812quickly that this food
6813
68141405
681501:06:06,310 --> 01:06:07,833
6816either contributes a lot of fat
6817
68181406
681901:06:07,964 --> 01:06:10,096
6820or a little bit of fat
6821and how to plan
6822
68231407
682401:06:10,227 --> 01:06:12,185
6825the rest of your diet
6826around this particular food.
6827
68281408
682901:06:12,316 --> 01:06:16,059
6830This food label which
6831will be on virtually
6832
68331409
683401:06:16,189 --> 01:06:20,106
6835all foods, will be a
6836benchmark for nutrition
6837
68381410
683901:06:20,237 --> 01:06:24,458
6840information well into
6841the 21st century.
6842
68431411
684401:06:24,589 --> 01:06:26,808
6845The Government makes
6846the manufacturers
6847
68481412
684901:06:26,939 --> 01:06:30,029
6850put the product ingredient
6851list and the amount
6852
68531413
685401:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,207
6855in which it appears on the
6856package. If the number one
6857thing is grains,
6858
68591414
686001:06:34,338 --> 01:06:38,298
6861you will rice first, if
6862the second thing is sugar
6863you will see sugar second.
6864
68651415
686601:06:38,429 --> 01:06:40,518
6867These companies got
6868really smart at some point
6869
68701416
687101:06:40,648 --> 01:06:42,259
6872and figured out
6873hey, wait a minute
6874
68751417
687601:06:42,389 --> 01:06:44,174
6877we can't do it this
6878way because people
6879
68801418
688101:06:44,304 --> 01:06:47,090
6882are seeing sugar,
6883sugar, sugar, sugar,
6884
68851419
688601:06:47,220 --> 01:06:50,528
6887so what they do is they name
6888the sugars other things.
6889
68901420
689101:06:50,658 --> 01:06:54,184
6892At last count, we
6893were at 70 names.
6894
68951421
689601:06:54,314 --> 01:06:57,230
689770 different names
6898for sugar on packages.
6899
69001422
690101:07:01,017 --> 01:07:03,106
6902Let's say you're
6903diabetic, Type 1, Type 2
6904
69051423
690601:07:03,236 --> 01:07:05,282
6907it doesn't matter,
6908if you don't know how
6909
69101424
691101:07:05,412 --> 01:07:09,286
6912to read these labels, your
6913life hangs in the balance.
6914
69151425
691601:07:09,416 --> 01:07:11,723
6917This is the world
6918we live in, this is
6919
69201426
692101:07:11,853 --> 01:07:14,030
6922our society, this
6923is our community
6924
69251427
692601:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,945
6927and if we don't fix it,
6928who will? No one will.
6929
69301428
693101:07:17,076 --> 01:07:20,210
6932The food label has become
6933a veritable minefield
6934
69351429
693601:07:20,340 --> 01:07:22,125
6937of misleading and
6938downright false claims.
6939
69401430
694101:07:22,777 --> 01:07:24,692
6942And many in Congress
6943feel the same way
6944
69451431
694601:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,042
6947they're concerned
6948that any confusion
6949
69501432
695101:07:26,172 --> 01:07:27,739
6952over the truthfulness
6953of health claims
6954
69551433
695601:07:27,869 --> 01:07:30,046
6957could be dangerous because
6958the potential benefit
6959
69601434
696101:07:30,176 --> 01:07:31,873
6962of displaying important
6963health information
6964
69651435
696601:07:32,004 --> 01:07:34,137
6967on food labels would
6968be lost if consumers
6969
69701436
697101:07:34,267 --> 01:07:35,964
6972lose confidence in what
6973they're being told.
6974
69751437
697601:07:36,095 --> 01:07:37,966
6977When I was a kid
6978in the late 70s,
6979
69801438
698101:07:38,097 --> 01:07:42,188
6982the term metabolic syndrome
6983did not exist at all.
6984
69851439
698601:07:42,449 --> 01:07:44,886
6987Metabolic syndrome
6988is not one thing
6989
69901440
699101:07:45,017 --> 01:07:47,889
6992it's several things,
6993it's fatty liver disease
6994
69951441
699601:07:48,020 --> 01:07:49,935
6997it's Type 2 diabetes,
6998something else
6999
70001442
700101:07:50,066 --> 01:07:52,894
7002that barely existed in
7003the 70s, we have people
7004
70051443
700601:07:53,025 --> 01:07:55,593
7007on statins and
7008metformin, none of this
7009
70101444
701101:07:55,723 --> 01:07:58,944
7012existed in this quantity
7013in the 70s.
7014
70151445
701601:07:59,075 --> 01:08:02,513
7017We've gone from here to here
7018in just a few short years.
7019
70201446
702101:08:02,643 --> 01:08:05,168
7022So the same foods in
7023my mother's generation
7024
70251447
702601:08:05,298 --> 01:08:08,084
7027grew up believing would
7028go right to their hips.
7029
70301448
703101:08:08,214 --> 01:08:10,869
7032You know, by the 1980s,
7033we were being told
7034
70351449
703601:08:10,999 --> 01:08:13,306
7037to eat six to eleven
7038servings per day
7039
70401450
704101:08:13,437 --> 01:08:15,308
7042they were the base of
7043the food diet pyramid
7044
70451451
704601:08:15,439 --> 01:08:19,182
7047in the 1990s and they coincided
7048with this obesity epidemic.
7049
70501452
705101:08:26,014 --> 01:08:27,277
7052I mean we couldn't
7053have screwed up
7054
70551453
705601:08:27,407 --> 01:08:29,540
7057the science of obesity more
7058if we had tried.
7059
70601454
706101:08:30,628 --> 01:08:32,064
7062We don't know what to do.
7063
70641455
706501:08:32,195 --> 01:08:33,631
7066Nutrition experts,
7067the establishment,
7068
70691456
707001:08:33,761 --> 01:08:35,937
7071the orthodoxy, just
7072doesn't know what to do
7073
70741457
707501:08:36,068 --> 01:08:37,156
7076so they continue raising money
7077
70781458
707901:08:37,287 --> 01:08:38,549
7080for the American
7081Heart Association,
7082
70831459
708401:08:38,679 --> 01:08:39,854
7085the American
7086Diabetes Association,
7087
70881460
708901:08:39,985 --> 01:08:41,595
7090but they don't
7091have any new ideas.
7092
70931461
709401:08:43,467 --> 01:08:45,338
7095They keep saying just keep
7096applying the advice
7097that we've given you
7098
70991462
710001:08:45,469 --> 01:08:48,080
7101and somehow, it'll turn out
7102different this time.
7103
71041463
710501:08:48,211 --> 01:08:49,951
7106One of the things
7107that I always say is
7108
71091464
711001:08:50,082 --> 01:08:51,997
7111why not just be
7112open to new ideas?
7113
71141465
711501:08:52,128 --> 01:08:54,130
7116Like, here's some other
7117ideas coming along
7118
71191466
712001:08:54,260 --> 01:08:55,870
7121let's just consider them.
7122Don't we have
7123
71241467
712501:08:56,001 --> 01:08:58,308
7126an obligation to the
7127public to consider
7128
71291468
713001:08:58,438 --> 01:08:59,787
7131at least, other ideas?
7132
71331469
713401:09:01,963 --> 01:09:05,271
7135You're about to meet a father who refused to give up, a man who defied
7136
71371470
713801:09:05,402 --> 01:09:07,621
7139the doctors and went
7140looking for a miracle.
7141
71421471
714301:09:07,752 --> 01:09:10,624
7144My generation remembers
7145Jim Abrahams quite well.
7146
71471472
714801:09:10,755 --> 01:09:12,670
7149He did some of our
7150favorite movies
7151
71521473
715301:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,107
7154like Airplane!and
7155Hot Shots!and all
7156
71571474
715801:09:15,238 --> 01:09:17,153
7159of these funny movies
7160in the 70s and 80s.
7161
71621475
716301:09:17,283 --> 01:09:20,460
7164Well it wasn't very
7165funny when Jim Abrahams
7166
71671476
716801:09:20,591 --> 01:09:24,856
7169had a 16 month old son
7170who was having
7171
71721477
717301:09:24,986 --> 01:09:27,337
7174seizure after
7175seizure after seizure
7176
71771478
717801:09:27,467 --> 01:09:30,296
7179and he was going-- because he
7180was a big producer
7181
71821479
718301:09:30,427 --> 01:09:32,429
7184and he had the means,
7185he went to the top
7186
71871480
718801:09:32,559 --> 01:09:34,039
7189doctors In the United States.
7190
71911481
719201:09:34,170 --> 01:09:36,389
7193And at the time,
7194Charlie was averaging
7195
71961482
719701:09:36,520 --> 01:09:38,565
7198about a dozen seizures a day.
7199
72001483
720101:09:38,696 --> 01:09:42,090
7202He was on four
7203anti-epileptic medicines.
7204
72051484
720601:09:42,221 --> 01:09:44,310
7207If you have a
7208critically ill kid,
7209
72101485
721101:09:44,441 --> 01:09:47,922
7212what would your choice be?
7213
72141486
721501:09:48,053 --> 01:09:51,883
7216Do you wanna drug him, do
7217you wanna cut his brain
7218
72191487
722001:09:52,013 --> 01:09:54,015
7221or do you wanna
7222change what he eats?
7223
72241488
722501:09:54,146 --> 01:09:55,669
7226And it just seems obvious to me.
7227
72281489
722901:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,280
7230This is not to blame doctors.
7231
72321490
723301:09:57,410 --> 01:10:00,413
7234Doctors are spread
7235really thin and they have
7236
72371491
723801:10:00,544 --> 01:10:02,067
7239to try to do the best they can,
7240
72411492
724201:10:02,198 --> 01:10:04,548
7243but it was Jim who
7244figured out on his own
7245
72461493
724701:10:04,678 --> 01:10:08,204
7248by going to a library
7249in the hospital
7250
72511494
725201:10:08,334 --> 01:10:10,206
7253and just happened to open a book
7254
72551495
725601:10:10,336 --> 01:10:13,992
7257to a page that showed
7258the ketogenic diet
7259
72601496
726101:10:14,122 --> 01:10:17,169
7262as being the best way to deal
7263with seizures in infants.
7264
72651497
726601:10:17,300 --> 01:10:18,823
7267The book claimed
7268that experts here
7269
72701498
727101:10:18,953 --> 01:10:21,129
7272in Baltimore were
7273perfecting something called
7274
72751499
727601:10:21,260 --> 01:10:24,307
7277the ketogenic diet,
7278a diet consisting
7279
72801500
728101:10:24,437 --> 01:10:26,134
7282largely of something
7283most doctors
7284
72851501
728601:10:26,265 --> 01:10:28,528
7287-tell us to avoid.
7288-I called Dr. Freeman
7289
72901502
729101:10:28,659 --> 01:10:31,052
7292from Johns Hopkins,
7293told him about Charlie
7294
72951503
729601:10:31,183 --> 01:10:34,142
7297and he said, send
7298his medical records,
7299
73001504
730101:10:34,273 --> 01:10:37,320
7302we did and he said,
7303well bring Charlie
7304
73051505
730601:10:37,450 --> 01:10:39,060
7307out to Hopkins and
7308we'll try the diet
7309
73101506
731101:10:39,191 --> 01:10:42,238
7312and we started the diet
7313and in two days
7314
73151507
731601:10:42,368 --> 01:10:43,239
7317his seizures were gone.
7318
73191508
732001:10:44,283 --> 01:10:46,329
7321- Two days?
7322-Two days.
7323
73241509
732501:10:46,459 --> 01:10:49,375
7326Jim was angry
7327and puzzled that none
7328
73291510
733001:10:49,506 --> 01:10:53,031
7331of the six doctors
7332he went to for help
7333ever mentioned the diet.
7334
73351511
733601:10:53,161 --> 01:10:54,902
7337What has stopped
7338Charlie's seizures
7339
73401512
734101:10:55,033 --> 01:10:57,209
7342has been in existence
7343for 70 years,
7344
73451513
734601:10:57,340 --> 01:10:59,820
7347it's been sitting there,
7348it was waiting for him.
7349
73501514
735101:10:59,951 --> 01:11:02,693
7352You had some knowledge
7353that this diet
7354
73551515
735601:11:02,823 --> 01:11:05,435
7357was probably working
7358back at Johns Hopkins
7359
73601516
736101:11:05,565 --> 01:11:09,830
7362and yet you dissuaded
7363the Abrahams from attempting it.
7364How come?
7365
73661517
736701:11:09,961 --> 01:11:14,444
7368Well, because I don't think we
7369had exhausted all of the medical
7370approaches yet.
7371
73721518
737301:11:14,748 --> 01:11:20,276
7374Uh... There were actually
7375still other medications
7376that we hadn't tried yet.
7377
73781519
737901:11:20,406 --> 01:11:22,539
7380Dr. Freeman tells us
7381that 50 to 70%
7382
73831520
738401:11:22,669 --> 01:11:24,280
7385of the patients that
7386come through his doors
7387
73881521
738901:11:24,410 --> 01:11:27,152
7390and get put on a diet
7391have success.
7392
73931522
739401:11:27,587 --> 01:11:31,025
7395Can you think of any drugs
7396in these hard cases
7397
73981523
739901:11:31,156 --> 01:11:33,289
7400that have 50 to 70%
7401success rates.
7402
74031524
740401:11:33,419 --> 01:11:36,553
7405Probably not anything that
7406comes up to that level.
7407
74081525
740901:11:36,683 --> 01:11:39,947
7410In another month, Dr. Freeman
7411weaned him off
7412
74131526
741401:11:40,078 --> 01:11:43,342
7415all four anti-epileptic
7416medicines and
7417
74181527
741901:11:44,604 --> 01:11:48,304
7420Charlie went from a
7421prognosis of a lifetime
7422
74231528
742401:11:48,434 --> 01:11:51,916
7425of seizures and what they
7426call "progressive retardation"
7427
74281529
742901:11:52,046 --> 01:11:55,267
7430to we got our son back
7431and his smile is back
7432
74331530
743401:11:55,398 --> 01:11:58,836
7435and he was happy again,
7436and our family
7437
74381531
743901:11:58,966 --> 01:12:00,403
7440could go on with life.
7441
74421532
744301:12:00,533 --> 01:12:04,624
7444This is Charlie Abrahams
7445and his mom, Nancy.
7446
74471533
744801:12:04,755 --> 01:12:07,279
7449I've known him since
7450birth, I watched
7451
74521534
745301:12:07,410 --> 01:12:09,455
7454his delightful
7455personality emerge
7456
74571535
745801:12:09,586 --> 01:12:11,849
7459through a normal first year,
7460I witnessed
7461
74621536
746301:12:11,979 --> 01:12:14,330
7464his debilitating
7465battle with seizures
7466
74671537
746801:12:14,460 --> 01:12:16,984
7469and medicines, I
7470rejoiced with his family
7471
74721538
747301:12:17,115 --> 01:12:20,379
7474when the ketogenic diet
7475stopped his epilepsy
7476
74771539
747801:12:20,510 --> 01:12:22,642
7479and now I derive
7480strength and joy
7481
74821540
748301:12:22,773 --> 01:12:24,340
7484like so many of
7485his other friends
7486
74871541
748801:12:24,470 --> 01:12:27,299
7489as we watch him begin
7490to develop again.
7491
74921542
749301:12:27,430 --> 01:12:29,736
7494It's too early to tell
7495whether the nine months
7496
74971543
749801:12:29,867 --> 01:12:32,130
7499of pummeling from
7500seizures and medicines
7501
75021544
750301:12:32,260 --> 01:12:34,959
7504did any permanent damage
7505to Charlie's brain.
7506
75071545
750801:12:35,089 --> 01:12:37,265
7509If he has anything
7510to say on that matter
7511
75121546
751301:12:37,396 --> 01:12:40,834
7514I know they won't,
7515however, it's not too early
7516
75171547
751801:12:40,965 --> 01:12:43,402
7519to tell that had
7520Charlie's parents
7521
75221548
752301:12:43,533 --> 01:12:45,273
7524been informed about
7525the existence of
7526
75271549
752801:12:45,404 --> 01:12:48,146
7529the ketogenic diet
7530when he first got sick,
7531
75321550
753301:12:48,276 --> 01:12:50,496
7534and about the success
7535they've had with it
7536
75371551
753801:12:50,627 --> 01:12:53,238
7539at Johns Hopkins,
7540a vast majority
7541
75421552
754301:12:53,369 --> 01:12:55,762
7544of Charlie's seizures
7545would not have occurred.
7546
75471553
754801:12:55,893 --> 01:12:59,157
7549And most of his $100,000
7550worth of medical,
7551
75521554
755301:12:59,287 --> 01:13:02,595
7554surgical and drug treatment
7555would not have been necessary.
7556
75571555
755801:13:06,077 --> 01:13:11,430
7559Even today, 1.5 out
7560of every 10,000 people
7561
75621556
756301:13:11,561 --> 01:13:15,826
7564with epilepsy who would
7565benefit from a ketogenic diet
7566
75671557
756801:13:15,956 --> 01:13:19,395
7569are using it today.
7570Doctors are not taught
7571
75721558
757301:13:19,525 --> 01:13:24,400
7574diet therapy or even
7575nutrition in medical school,
7576
75771559
757801:13:24,530 --> 01:13:27,359
7579they just simply aren't.
7580Try an informal
7581
75821560
758301:13:27,490 --> 01:13:29,274
7584survey on your own,
7585next time you see
7586
75871561
758801:13:29,405 --> 01:13:31,407
7589a doctor, your
7590doctor, any doctor,
7591
75921562
759301:13:31,537 --> 01:13:33,583
7594say, "When you were
7595in medical school,
7596
75971563
759801:13:33,713 --> 01:13:37,456
7599how long were you, how much time
7600
76011564
760201:13:37,587 --> 01:13:39,676
7603did you spend
7604investigating and learning
7605
76061565
760701:13:39,806 --> 01:13:42,156
7608about nutrition
7609and diet therapy?"
7610
76111566
761201:13:42,287 --> 01:13:44,942
7613I didn't really have
7614much nutritional
7615training like most doctors.
7616
76171567
761801:13:45,072 --> 01:13:47,031
7619In four years of
7620psychiatry training,
7621
76221568
762301:13:47,161 --> 01:13:48,728
7624we didn't talk about food once.
7625
76261569
762701:13:48,859 --> 01:13:51,252
7628The extent of my training,
7629I got in nutrition,
7630
76311570
763201:13:51,383 --> 01:13:54,299
7633let's see, year one,
7634two, three, four
7635
76361571
763701:13:54,430 --> 01:13:56,040
7638then four years of
7639residency, zero.
7640
76411572
764201:14:00,174 --> 01:14:02,699
7643Zero, I got zero
7644in addiction too.
7645
76461573
764701:14:02,829 --> 01:14:04,744
7648Zero in nutrition,
7649zero in addiction.
7650
76511574
765201:14:04,875 --> 01:14:07,834
7653We were-- we were so damn busy
7654taking care of sick
7655
76561575
765701:14:07,965 --> 01:14:09,575
7658taking care of
7659illness and trying
7660
76611576
766201:14:09,706 --> 01:14:11,534
7663to push that back and save lives
7664
76651577
766601:14:11,664 --> 01:14:13,144
7667that trying to prevent illness
7668
76691578
767001:14:13,274 --> 01:14:14,537
7671was not really on our radar.
7672
76731579
767401:14:17,061 --> 01:14:20,543
7675I feel anger, I'm pissed off
7676
76771580
767801:14:20,673 --> 01:14:25,156
7679and again, I think
7680that part-- that the reasons
7681
76821581
768301:14:25,286 --> 01:14:28,202
7684that the diet hasn't
7685become more popular
7686
76871582
768801:14:28,333 --> 01:14:30,596
7689has nothing to do
7690with efficacy at all.
7691
76921583
769301:14:30,727 --> 01:14:33,947
7694It has to do with
7695revenue sources
7696
76971584
769801:14:34,078 --> 01:14:36,559
7699that are more lucrative.
7700The ketogenic diet
7701
77021585
770301:14:36,689 --> 01:14:39,344
7704isn't that expensive,
7705the problem is
7706
77071586
770801:14:39,475 --> 01:14:43,391
7709it doesn't generate revenue
7710for the medical world.
7711
77121587
771301:14:43,522 --> 01:14:46,960
7714There are powerful
7715forces at work
7716
77171588
771801:14:47,091 --> 01:14:50,094
7719in our medical system
7720that have nothing
7721
77221589
772301:14:50,224 --> 01:14:51,225
7724to do with good health.
7725
77261590
772701:14:51,661 --> 01:14:53,401
7728My patients have
7729been getting fatter
7730
77311591
773201:14:53,532 --> 01:14:55,752
7733and sicker over
7734the last few decades
7735
77361592
773701:14:55,882 --> 01:14:58,189
7738and in particular,
7739we're starting to see
7740
77411593
774201:14:58,319 --> 01:15:00,626
7743diabetes out of control,
7744and that changes everything.
7745
77461594
774701:15:01,714 --> 01:15:03,542
7748I used to see the
7749occasional person
7750
77511595
775201:15:03,673 --> 01:15:05,631
7753who needed diabetic
7754foot ulcer management
7755
77561596
775701:15:05,762 --> 01:15:09,156
7758and needing an amputation,
7759and it started becoming
7760virtually weekly.
7761
77621597
776301:15:09,287 --> 01:15:13,683
7764When you come into a clinic
7765and there's patients
7766
77671598
776801:15:13,813 --> 01:15:17,295
7769with, you know, rotting flesh
7770and it is rotting flesh
7771
77721599
777301:15:17,425 --> 01:15:21,386
7774and it smells bad, it looks bad
7775
77761600
777701:15:21,517 --> 01:15:23,649
7778and all you're doing
7779is just trimming
7780
77811601
778201:15:23,780 --> 01:15:26,696
7783off a little bit of foot,
7784starts with a toe,
7785
77861602
778701:15:26,826 --> 01:15:29,525
7788starts with an ulcer,
7789then it moves up the foot
7790
77911603
779201:15:29,655 --> 01:15:34,530
7793and sometimes you know,
7794you get to a point after
7795doing two or three operations
7796
77971604
779801:15:34,660 --> 01:15:37,707
7799it's been going a couple of
7800months and then the decision
7801is you've actually
7802
78031605
780401:15:37,837 --> 01:15:38,664
7805got to chop that leg off.
7806
78071606
780801:15:42,799 --> 01:15:45,062
7809There's something
7810which really upsets me
7811
78121607
781301:15:45,192 --> 01:15:46,716
7814and that's when you
7815actually amputate
7816
78171608
781801:15:46,846 --> 01:15:49,240
7819someone's limb, there's
7820a sound of actually
7821
78221609
782301:15:49,370 --> 01:15:50,981
7824dropping that leg into a bucket.
7825
78261610
782701:15:53,940 --> 01:15:56,116
7828I don't want anyone to hear
7829that, you know, that noise,
7830
78311611
783201:15:56,247 --> 01:16:01,034
7833it's just... Yeah it's just
7834sickening, I started talking
7835
78361612
783701:16:01,165 --> 01:16:03,341
7838to my patients
7839about reducing sugar
7840
78411613
784201:16:03,471 --> 01:16:05,082
7843and the benefits were immediate.
7844
78451614
784601:16:05,212 --> 01:16:08,564
7847Not only would the peoples
7848fatty liver disease
7849
78501615
785101:16:08,694 --> 01:16:11,697
7852get better, not only
7853would all of their blood
7854
78551616
785601:16:11,828 --> 01:16:13,830
7857numbers get better, but in fact,
7858
78591617
786001:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,485
7861he would not have to end up
7862chopping off a foot or a leg.
7863
78641618
786501:16:17,616 --> 01:16:20,663
7866I then went to the
7867hospital dieticians
7868
78691619
787001:16:20,793 --> 01:16:22,447
7871and said hang on, this
7872is really exciting
7873
78741620
787501:16:22,578 --> 01:16:25,189
7876this stuff about sugar,
7877started talking about it
7878
78791621
788001:16:25,319 --> 01:16:28,671
7881to the staff and then
7882I started implementing
7883
78841622
788501:16:28,801 --> 01:16:31,848
7886a sugar reduction
7887for my patients,
7888
78891623
789001:16:31,978 --> 01:16:33,589
7891only to find out
7892that I was starting
7893
78941624
789501:16:33,719 --> 01:16:35,068
7896to tread on some big toes.
7897
78981625
789901:16:35,199 --> 01:16:37,810
7900The dieticians then
7901started kicking up
7902
79031626
790401:16:37,941 --> 01:16:40,596
7905a stink about that involving
7906their parent organization,
7907
79081627
790901:16:40,726 --> 01:16:42,815
7910the Dieticians
7911Association of Australia
7912
79131628
791401:16:42,946 --> 01:16:46,819
7915who started becoming
7916involved into pressuring
7917
79181629
791901:16:46,950 --> 01:16:48,604
7920the hospital into silencing me.
7921
79221630
792301:16:48,734 --> 01:16:50,823
7924We received evidence in Sydney
7925
79261631
792701:16:50,954 --> 01:16:53,478
7928from a medical
7929practitioner in Tasmania,
7930
79311632
793201:16:53,609 --> 01:16:57,874
7933Dr. Gary Fettke,
7934he gave the evidence to
7935
79361633
793701:16:58,004 --> 01:16:59,832
7938the Committee in the
7939morning of our hearing
7940
79411634
794201:16:59,963 --> 01:17:03,923
7943in Sydney, three hours
7944later, he received
7945
79461635
794701:17:04,054 --> 01:17:05,751
7948an official caution from APRA.
7949
79501636
795101:17:05,882 --> 01:17:07,274
7952The first time I heard
7953this story,
7954
79551637
795601:17:07,405 --> 01:17:08,580
7957I just thought it was a joke.
7958
79591638
796001:17:08,711 --> 01:17:11,017
7961The Boards actual
7962statement requires
7963
79641639
796501:17:11,148 --> 01:17:13,672
7966that doctors double check
7967that their personal beliefs
7968
79691640
797001:17:13,803 --> 01:17:15,848
7971don't compromise care,
7972that they don't put
7973
79741641
797501:17:15,979 --> 01:17:18,285
7976their commercial interest
7977in front of patients
7978
79791642
798001:17:18,416 --> 01:17:20,287
7981and lastly, doctors
7982should provide
7983
79841643
798501:17:20,418 --> 01:17:22,463
7986appropriate dietary advice.
7987
79881644
798901:17:22,594 --> 01:17:24,814
7990Ultimately, the Medical
7991Board made a ruling
7992
79931645
799401:17:24,944 --> 01:17:29,166
7995that I am now the only
7996doctor as far as we know
7997
79981646
799901:17:29,296 --> 01:17:31,647
8000in the world to be
8001banned from advising
8002
80031647
800401:17:31,777 --> 01:17:35,215
8005his patients to reduce their
8006sugar and junk food intake.
8007
80081648
800901:17:36,564 --> 01:17:39,045
8010And if that sounds crazy,
8011then that's what it is.
8012
80131649
801401:17:39,872 --> 01:17:43,789
8015We recognize that uh, the--
8016being subject
8017
80181650
801901:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,922
8020to the notifications
8021process for a practitioner
8022
80231651
802401:17:46,052 --> 01:17:48,794
8025can be an extraordinarily
8026stressful, uh, thing
8027
80281652
802901:17:48,925 --> 01:17:51,928
8030because there are pretty
8031serious issues at stake
8032
80331653
803401:17:52,058 --> 01:17:53,581
8035ultimately in terms
8036of their practice
8037
80381654
803901:17:53,712 --> 01:17:56,367
8040-of their profession and--
8041-And their reputation.
8042
80431655
804401:17:56,497 --> 01:18:00,240
8045And their reputation
8046and, uh, despite the fact
8047
80481656
804901:18:00,371 --> 01:18:02,286
8050that we are not
8051punitive in our focus,
8052
80531657
805401:18:02,416 --> 01:18:03,722
8055we are protective in our focus
8056
80571658
805801:18:03,853 --> 01:18:06,246
8059and our mandate is a
8060public protection focus
8061
80621659
806301:18:06,377 --> 01:18:08,118
8064we understand and
8065appreciate that it may not
8066
80671660
806801:18:08,248 --> 01:18:09,989
8069feel like that for
8070the practitioner
8071
80721661
807301:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,295
8074involved in the process.
8075
80761662
807701:18:11,425 --> 01:18:12,775
8078For a long time, I
8079couldn't actually
8080
80811663
808201:18:12,905 --> 01:18:14,777
8083work out why there
8084was anything actually
8085
80861664
808701:18:14,907 --> 01:18:17,083
8088against what I
8089was talking about,
8090
80911665
809201:18:17,214 --> 01:18:20,478
8093everything about reducing
8094sugar and carbohydrate
8095
80961666
809701:18:20,608 --> 01:18:22,872
8098is basic biochemistry,
8099it's in the first
8100
81011667
810201:18:23,002 --> 01:18:27,659
8103hundred pages of textbooks,
8104so there's nothing
8105
81061668
810701:18:27,790 --> 01:18:30,967
8108extreme about it, once
8109you see the results
8110
81111669
811201:18:31,097 --> 01:18:34,753
8113of reducing sugar and carbs,
8114particularly in diabetes,
8115
81161670
811701:18:34,884 --> 01:18:36,276
8118you can't unsee them.
8119
81201671
812101:18:36,407 --> 01:18:40,411
8122You know, at this point,
8123I think there is active
8124
81251672
812601:18:40,541 --> 01:18:42,413
8127suppression of this science,
8128
81291673
813001:18:42,543 --> 01:18:44,937
8131and this has been
8132going on since the 60s.
8133
81341674
813501:18:45,068 --> 01:18:46,722
8136One of the things I found
8137in my research,
8138
81391675
814001:18:46,852 --> 01:18:49,507
8141the biggest ever test of
8142Ancel Keys' hypothesis
8143
81441676
814501:18:49,637 --> 01:18:51,814
8146was something called The
8147Minnesota Coronary Survey
8148
81491677
815001:18:51,944 --> 01:18:54,904
8151it was on more than nine
8152thousand men and women
8153
81541678
815501:18:55,034 --> 01:18:59,299
8156in five Minnesota mental
8157hospitals, which was a really
8158well-controlled study
8159
81601679
816101:18:59,430 --> 01:19:02,825
8162because somebody in a hospital,
8163you can control everything
8164they're eating.
8165
81661680
816701:19:02,955 --> 01:19:07,003
8168They gave half the people what
8169was considered the normal
8170amount of saturated fat,
8171
81721681
817301:19:07,133 --> 01:19:10,658
8174regular milk, regular meat,
8175cheese, butter etcetera.
8176
81771682
817801:19:10,789 --> 01:19:13,749
8179The other half they
8180gave 9% saturated fats
8181
81821683
818301:19:13,879 --> 01:19:15,707
8184soy-filled milk,
8185soy-filled cheese,
8186
81871684
818801:19:15,838 --> 01:19:18,536
8189soy-filled burgers, they
8190found that the people
8191
81921685
819301:19:18,666 --> 01:19:21,844
8194on the vegetable oil,
8195soy-filled diets
8196
81971686
819801:19:21,974 --> 01:19:24,716
8199there was no effect on
8200cardiovascular mortality
8201
82021687
820301:19:24,847 --> 01:19:26,631
8204or total mortality. That study
8205
82061688
820701:19:26,762 --> 01:19:29,460
8208was not published for 16 years.
8209
82101689
821101:19:30,591 --> 01:19:31,897
8212One of the principle
8213investigators,
8214
82151690
821601:19:32,028 --> 01:19:33,638
8217Ivan Frantz was
8218asked by a journalist
8219
82201691
822101:19:33,769 --> 01:19:35,509
8222why did you not
8223publish this study?
8224
82251692
822601:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,860
8227He said well, there was
8228really nothing wrong with it
8229
82301693
823101:19:37,990 --> 01:19:40,993
8232we were just so disappointed
8233in the way it came out.
8234
82351694
823601:19:41,341 --> 01:19:44,910
8237Well that's basically
8238scientific fraud,
8239
82401695
824101:19:45,041 --> 01:19:46,085
8242not publishing your results.
8243
82441696
824501:19:47,870 --> 01:19:51,787
8246I started to ask the
8247question what got in the way?
8248
82491697
825001:19:51,917 --> 01:19:55,094
8251What's withholding the message?
8252
82531698
825401:19:55,225 --> 01:19:59,969
8255Well, there is a
8256pharmaceutical and medical
8257
82581699
825901:20:00,099 --> 01:20:02,841
8260device industry
8261that makes billions
8262
82631700
826401:20:02,972 --> 01:20:05,975
8265selling their
8266products to doctors
8267
82681701
826901:20:06,105 --> 01:20:09,500
8270who have no interest
8271in diet therapy.
8272
82731702
827401:20:09,630 --> 01:20:14,505
8275There, uh, is a sugar
8276industry that adds
8277
82781703
827901:20:14,635 --> 01:20:17,464
8280sugar to all of
8281our processed foods
8282
82831704
828401:20:17,900 --> 01:20:21,512
8285that has no interest in
8286promoting a sugar-free diet.
8287
82881705
828901:20:21,642 --> 01:20:25,124
8290There is a cardiology
8291community led by
8292
82931706
829401:20:25,255 --> 01:20:27,605
8295the American Heart Association
8296
82971707
829801:20:27,735 --> 01:20:31,130
8299that has been spreading
8300misinformation
8301
83021708
830301:20:31,261 --> 01:20:35,178
8304about a high-fat diet
8305based on flawed science
8306
83071709
830801:20:35,308 --> 01:20:37,180
8309for over 70 years.
8310
83111710
831201:20:37,310 --> 01:20:39,182
8313Those diets have
8314been used in children
8315
83161711
831701:20:39,312 --> 01:20:41,532
8318for many years who have epilepsy
8319
83201712
832101:20:41,662 --> 01:20:43,273
8322and those children show definite
8323
83241713
832501:20:43,403 --> 01:20:46,406
8326cognitive dysfunction,
8327also those diets.
8328
83291714
833001:20:46,537 --> 01:20:48,147
8331Which means they don't
8332think as clearly.
8333
83341715
833501:20:48,278 --> 01:20:49,845
8336-That's right.
8337-Those children are also
8338
83391716
834001:20:49,975 --> 01:20:51,498
8341children who have as
8342many, they're intransigent
8343
83441717
834501:20:51,629 --> 01:20:52,848
8346childhood epilepsy,
8347they have as many
8348
83491718
835001:20:52,978 --> 01:20:55,851
8351as 400 seizures a month,
8352they're untreatable
8353
83541719
835501:20:55,981 --> 01:20:58,636
8356by drugs, they go on
8357the diet, and the diets
8358
83591720
836001:20:58,766 --> 01:21:01,465
8361I think it cures 33%
8362of them, cures them.
8363
83641721
836501:21:01,595 --> 01:21:04,903
8366The epilepsy and then
8367they aren't able to think.
8368
83691722
837001:21:05,034 --> 01:21:10,169
8371Today Charlie is a
8372elementary school teacher
8373
83741723
837501:21:10,300 --> 01:21:12,868
8376a certificate in early
8377childhood education,
8378
83791724
838001:21:12,998 --> 01:21:16,784
8381he boxes, he plays
8382piano, and we are
8383
83841725
838501:21:17,742 --> 01:21:21,224
8386beyond grateful every day
8387for his outcome.
8388
83891726
839001:21:21,354 --> 01:21:23,356
8391I'm not sure what
8392would have become of me
8393
83941727
839501:21:23,487 --> 01:21:26,707
8396if my family hadn't
8397found the ketogenic diet.
8398
83991728
840001:21:26,838 --> 01:21:30,407
8401But I doubt that today,
8402I would be an A student
8403
84041729
840501:21:30,537 --> 01:21:32,931
8406in high school with
8407lots of friends.
8408
84091730
841001:21:33,062 --> 01:21:35,368
8411I doubt I would have been
8412playing piano
8413
84141731
841501:21:35,499 --> 01:21:37,066
8416for the last eight years
8417and I doubt
8418
84191732
842001:21:37,196 --> 01:21:39,720
8421I could hit an 8 iron
8422a 160 yards.
8423
84241733
842501:21:40,852 --> 01:21:43,115
8426And they just couldn't accept
8427that they were
8428dealing with these
8429
84301734
843101:21:43,246 --> 01:21:46,031
8432intractable conditions
8433and not just pediatric
8434
84351735
843601:21:46,162 --> 01:21:48,642
8437epilepsy, but obesity is
8438an intractable condition,
8439
84401736
844101:21:48,773 --> 01:21:51,907
8442diabetes, Type 2 diabetes
8443is an intractable condition,
8444
84451737
844601:21:52,037 --> 01:21:53,909
8447Type 1 is, and here
8448you have this diet
8449
84501738
845101:21:54,039 --> 01:21:56,563
8452that appears to put these
8453conditions into remission.
8454
84551739
845601:21:56,694 --> 01:21:59,044
8457The establishment here,
8458represented
8459
84601740
846101:21:59,175 --> 01:22:01,046
8462by our friends, its
8463a little too dogmatic
8464
84651741
846601:22:01,177 --> 01:22:02,918
8467and that we may
8468never know the truth
8469
84701742
847101:22:03,048 --> 01:22:05,746
8472unless we acknowledge that
8473there is a counter-theory
8474
84751743
847601:22:05,877 --> 01:22:07,487
8477that has never been
8478tested and that
8479
84801744
848101:22:07,618 --> 01:22:09,054
8482that theory more and more people
8483
84841745
848501:22:09,185 --> 01:22:11,970
8486are beginning to accept
8487parts of the theory,
8488
84891746
849001:22:12,101 --> 01:22:14,146
8491as being legitimate
8492and that it could
8493
84941747
849501:22:14,277 --> 01:22:15,800
8496answer a lot of problems
8497and it could
8498
84991748
850001:22:15,931 --> 01:22:17,584
8501even make it easier for
8502Americans to lose weight.
8503
85041749
850501:22:17,715 --> 01:22:19,369
8506People are able to
8507reverse diabetes,
8508
85091750
851001:22:19,499 --> 01:22:21,806
8511people are able to lose
8512weight sustainably.
8513
85141751
851501:22:21,937 --> 01:22:24,504
8516Most, if not all
8517cardiovascular risk factors
8518
85191752
852001:22:24,635 --> 01:22:26,942
8521are improved along
8522the way on a lower
8523
85241753
852501:22:27,072 --> 01:22:30,989
8526carbohydrate diet. That diet
8527ought to be at least considered.
8528
85291754
853001:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,122
8531If it turns out to be true,
8532I'll be the first
8533
85341755
853501:22:33,252 --> 01:22:34,906
8536to change my mind,
8537but show me the data.
8538
85391756
854001:22:35,037 --> 01:22:36,952
8541Well, here's
8542just one study that says
8543
85441757
854501:22:37,082 --> 01:22:39,389
8546that long term ketosis
8547reduces body weight,
8548
85491758
855001:22:39,519 --> 01:22:42,261
8551triglycerides, LDL,
8552and blood glucose
8553
85541759
855501:22:42,392 --> 01:22:44,394
8556and shows that it's
8557safe to use a long term
8558
85591760
856001:22:44,524 --> 01:22:46,526
8561-ketogenic diet.
8562-You can lose weight on
8563
85641761
856501:22:46,657 --> 01:22:48,137
8566a plant-based diet,
8567you can lose weight
8568
85691762
857001:22:48,267 --> 01:22:50,487
8571on a ketogenic diet, but are you
8572
85731763
857401:22:50,617 --> 01:22:51,967
8575mortgaging your health
8576when you do that,
8577
85781764
857901:22:52,097 --> 01:22:54,012
8580and the answer is yes,
8581the ketogenic diet
8582
85831765
858401:22:54,143 --> 01:22:56,145
8585when you look at the
8586arteries of people
8587
85881766
858901:22:56,275 --> 01:22:58,495
8590or animals that go
8591on a ketogenic diet
8592
85931767
859401:22:58,625 --> 01:23:00,062
8595they tend to be more clogged,
8596
85971768
859801:23:00,192 --> 01:23:01,237
8599even though...
8600
86011769
860201:23:03,195 --> 01:23:06,416
8603Imagine someone who spent
8604his whole career getting the
8605wrong answer,
8606
86071770
860801:23:06,546 --> 01:23:08,157
8609and not only getting the wrong
8610answer, getting the wrong
8611
86121771
861301:23:08,287 --> 01:23:09,985
8614answer that dangerous,
8615that actually
8616
86171772
861801:23:10,115 --> 01:23:12,552
8619may have killed
8620tens of thousands
8621
86221773
862301:23:12,683 --> 01:23:14,467
8624of hundreds of
8625thousands of people.
8626
86271774
862801:23:14,598 --> 01:23:16,121
8629Millions of people
8630prematurely, there's no
8631
86321775
863301:23:16,252 --> 01:23:17,993
8634way to tell, then
8635these outsiders
8636
86371776
863801:23:18,123 --> 01:23:20,125
8639come along and say you're wrong,
8640
86411777
864201:23:20,256 --> 01:23:23,128
8643not only are you wrong,
8644you're completely wrong
8645
86461778
864701:23:23,259 --> 01:23:25,870
8648or not even wrong
8649it's so senseless
8650
86511779
865201:23:26,001 --> 01:23:27,263
8653what you've been doing
8654and you're killing people
8655
86561780
865701:23:27,393 --> 01:23:29,004
8658and you have to switch.
8659I don't think
8660
86611781
866201:23:29,134 --> 01:23:31,484
8663any human being, I mean
8664were just not wired
8665
86661782
866701:23:31,615 --> 01:23:34,574
8668to be able to say oh
8669yeah, that's a good point
8670
86711783
867201:23:34,705 --> 01:23:36,098
8673I get it, I see
8674what you're saying
8675
86761784
867701:23:36,228 --> 01:23:39,275
8678and I'm sorry. And if
8679you're an institution
8680
86811785
868201:23:39,405 --> 01:23:41,016
8683like the American
8684Heart Association,
8685
86861786
868701:23:41,146 --> 01:23:43,322
8688I mean imagine the press release
8689
86901787
869101:23:43,453 --> 01:23:45,194
8692you would have to write,
8693"Dear American public
8694
86951788
869601:23:45,324 --> 01:23:47,892
8697we're sorry if we
8698killed prematurely
8699
87001789
870101:23:48,023 --> 01:23:50,503
8702your loved ones and your parents
8703
87041790
870501:23:50,634 --> 01:23:53,071
8706and maybe we're killing
8707you, but in retrospect
8708
87091791
871001:23:53,202 --> 01:23:56,074
8711we shouldn't have given
8712the advice we did."
8713
87141792
871501:23:56,205 --> 01:23:59,947
8716-You know, we think
8717
87181793
871901:24:00,078 --> 01:24:02,950
8720about corporations are--
8721our Government
8722
87231794
872401:24:03,081 --> 01:24:07,042
8725which is a corporation,
8726and the first question is
8727
87281795
872901:24:07,172 --> 01:24:10,045
8730do we blame them?
8731Well, you can't hurt
8732
87331796
873401:24:10,175 --> 01:24:12,177
8735the Government's feelings,
8736you can't hurt
8737
87381797
873901:24:12,308 --> 01:24:14,049
8740the corporations'
8741feeling because
8742
87431798
874401:24:14,179 --> 01:24:16,703
8745corporations and
8746governments are not people.
8747
87481799
874901:24:17,443 --> 01:24:20,229
8750They're machines, they're
8751just big giant machines
8752
87531800
875401:24:20,359 --> 01:24:23,710
8755and any person in that
8756machine is just a cog
8757
87581801
875901:24:23,841 --> 01:24:25,582
8760and there's no way to
8761hurt anyone's feelings
8762
87631802
876401:24:25,712 --> 01:24:27,671
8765or to get on anyone's bad side.
8766
87671803
876801:24:27,801 --> 01:24:29,368
8769It's just a machine
8770that keeps running.
8771
87721804
877301:24:31,588 --> 01:24:34,982
8774Decisions of a nation,
8775and of a Government
8776
87771805
877801:24:35,113 --> 01:24:38,160
8779that at one time could tolerate
8780
87811806
878201:24:38,290 --> 01:24:41,815
8783three or four weeks
8784of study, now demand
8785
87861807
878701:24:41,946 --> 01:24:45,428
8788almost instantaneous a reaction.
8789
87901808
879101:24:45,558 --> 01:24:47,082
8792The people of the United States
8793
87941809
879501:24:47,212 --> 01:24:51,695
8796recognize one by one,
8797thousand by thousand,
8798
87991810
880001:24:51,825 --> 01:24:54,089
8801million by million
8802that this I a problem
8803
88041811
880501:24:54,219 --> 01:24:56,656
8806which solution is long overdue.
8807
88081812
880901:24:56,787 --> 01:24:59,485
8810Long before Lyndon Johnson
8811came into position
8812
88131813
881401:24:59,616 --> 01:25:02,140
8815of power, our leaders
8816were recommending
8817
88181814
881901:25:02,271 --> 01:25:06,101
8820great advances in the
8821field of civil rights
8822
88231815
882401:25:06,231 --> 01:25:07,972
8825and great advances in
8826the field of health
8827
88281816
882901:25:08,103 --> 01:25:09,669
8830and things of that nature.
8831
88321817
883301:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,716
8834Uh, I just happened to
8835be the catalyst.
8836
88371818
883801:25:12,846 --> 01:25:15,414
8839We're living in a fast age
8840and all of us
8841
88421819
884301:25:15,545 --> 01:25:17,112
8844are rather impatient.
8845
88461820
884701:25:17,242 --> 01:25:20,115
8848I am proposing today a new
8849national health strategy.
8850
88511821
885201:25:20,245 --> 01:25:23,161
8853Emphasizes keeping people well,
8854
88551822
885601:25:23,292 --> 01:25:25,424
8857not just making people well.
8858
88591823
886001:25:25,555 --> 01:25:28,123
8861I do envision the
8862day when we may use
8863
88641824
886501:25:28,253 --> 01:25:30,299
8866the private health
8867insurance system,
8868
88691825
887001:25:30,429 --> 01:25:33,693
8871to offer more middle
8872income families
8873
88741826
887501:25:33,824 --> 01:25:37,132
8876high quality health services
8877at prices they can afford
8878
88791827
888001:25:37,262 --> 01:25:41,614
8881and shield them also from
8882their catastrophic illnesses.
8883
88841828
888501:25:41,745 --> 01:25:44,400
8886Today I'm proposing
8887to the Congress
8888
88891829
889001:25:44,530 --> 01:25:48,404
8891a national health plan,
8892this major initiative
8893
88941830
889501:25:48,534 --> 01:25:50,449
8896will meet the most urgent needs
8897
88981831
889901:25:50,580 --> 01:25:52,582
8900in health care of
8901the American people.
8902
89031832
890401:25:52,712 --> 01:25:55,019
8905Our Administration will
8906propose to Congress
8907
89081833
890901:25:55,150 --> 01:25:58,457
8910a comprehensive plan to
8911cover catastrophic illnesses.
8912
89131834
891401:25:58,588 --> 01:26:01,156
8915I am proud to have been
8916part of an Administration
8917
89181835
891901:26:01,286 --> 01:26:03,897
8920that passed the first
8921Catastrophic Health Bill.
8922
89231836
892401:26:04,028 --> 01:26:05,464
8925Whatever form it takes,
8926
89271837
892801:26:05,595 --> 01:26:07,858
8929a catastrophic
8930illness costs money.
8931
89321838
893301:26:07,988 --> 01:26:09,947
8934There are some little
8935known but very important
8936
89371839
893801:26:10,077 --> 01:26:12,254
8939provisions in this
8940new balanced budget
8941
89421840
894301:26:12,384 --> 01:26:15,170
8944that will take us
8945a tremendous step
8946
89471841
894801:26:15,300 --> 01:26:17,911
8949forward in our fight
8950against diabetes.
8951
89521842
895301:26:18,042 --> 01:26:20,218
8954These investments
8955total more than
8956
89571843
895801:26:20,349 --> 01:26:23,178
8959two billion dollars over
8960the next five years.
8961
89621844
896301:26:23,308 --> 01:26:25,832
8964We must remember that the
8965best health care decisions
8966
89671845
896801:26:25,963 --> 01:26:29,227
8969are not made by Government
8970and insurance companies
8971
89721846
897301:26:29,358 --> 01:26:31,577
8974but by patients
8975and their doctors.
8976
89771847
897801:26:33,318 --> 01:26:34,667
8979Because you're eating heathy,
8980
89811848
898201:26:34,798 --> 01:26:36,582
8983and you're out there
8984active and you're playing
8985
89861849
898701:26:36,713 --> 01:26:38,193
8988sports and you're
8989out in the playground
8990
89911850
899201:26:38,323 --> 01:26:41,761
8993and doing all those
8994things, not only
8995
89961851
899701:26:41,892 --> 01:26:44,764
8998are you gonna have
8999a better life,
9000
90011852
900201:26:44,895 --> 01:26:47,027
9003but you're also
9004helping to create
9005
90061853
900701:26:47,158 --> 01:26:48,551
9008a stronger, healthier America,
9009
90101854
901101:26:48,681 --> 01:26:50,292
9012and that saves us money,
9013it means people
9014
90151855
901601:26:50,422 --> 01:26:52,772
9017are not sick as much,
9018it means that
9019
90201856
902101:26:52,903 --> 01:26:55,079
9022our health care costs go down.
9023
90241857
902501:26:55,210 --> 01:26:58,213
9026When you roll up at a McDonalds,
9027what does Donald Trump order?
9028
90291858
903001:26:58,343 --> 01:27:01,520
9031A Fish-O-Filet sometimes, right.
9032
90331859
903401:27:01,651 --> 01:27:04,741
9035The Big Macs are great, the
9036Quarter Pounder with cheese,
9037I mean there's great stuff.
9038
90391860
904001:27:04,871 --> 01:27:07,047
9041Do people at the windows
9042be like, "What?"
9043
90441861
904501:27:07,091 --> 01:27:08,397
9046I think all of those
9047places, Burger King
9048
90491862
905001:27:08,527 --> 01:27:10,442
9051McDonalds, I can live with them.
9052
90531863
905401:27:10,573 --> 01:27:12,357
9055I had the other night, I
9056had Kentucky Fried Chicken,
9057
90581864
905901:27:12,488 --> 01:27:13,880
9060not the worst thing
9061in the world.
9062
90631865
906401:27:14,446 --> 01:27:16,231
9065If you think it's up to
9066Government, you're wrong,
9067
90681866
906901:27:16,274 --> 01:27:18,015
9070if you think
9071it's up to industry,
9072
90731867
907401:27:18,145 --> 01:27:20,278
9075you're wrong, it's up to
9076you. And if you're gonna
9077
90781868
907901:27:20,409 --> 01:27:22,498
9080make a change, if
9081you're watching this,
9082
90831869
908401:27:22,628 --> 01:27:24,935
9085change right now,
9086tonight, don't wait
9087
90881870
908901:27:25,065 --> 01:27:27,242
9090until tomorrow, if
9091it's a Friday night
9092
90931871
909401:27:27,372 --> 01:27:29,287
9095don't say Monday
9096you're gonna start,
9097
90981872
909901:27:29,418 --> 01:27:32,247
9100start now, there's no
9101time better than right now
9102
91031873
910401:27:32,377 --> 01:27:33,944
9105to get your life in order.
9106
91071874
910801:29:25,925 --> 01:29:29,799
9109I've been doing a
9110podcast with Anna Vocino
9111for about seven years.
9112
91131875
911401:29:29,929 --> 01:29:33,672
9115When we first started
9116the podcast, uh,
9117nobody was listening.
9118
91191876
912001:29:33,803 --> 01:29:35,848
9121Someone's gone, alright,
9122I wanna lose weight
9123
91241877
912501:29:35,979 --> 01:29:38,329
9126wait, that steak
9127is 1200 calories.
9128
91291878
913001:29:39,199 --> 01:29:42,072
9131This bowl of pasta
9132is 500 calories less?
9133
91341879
913501:29:42,202 --> 01:29:44,379
9136And, as a woman, you're told
9137
91381880
913901:29:44,509 --> 01:29:46,337
9140don't eat more than
91411200 calories a day
9142
91431881
914401:29:46,468 --> 01:29:48,383
9145if you wanna lose weight,
9146so you think
9147
91481882
914901:29:48,513 --> 01:29:50,733
9150oh, I can't have that steak,
9151because that's my whole day!
9152
91531883
915401:29:50,863 --> 01:29:52,474
9155We started attracting
9156the attention
9157
91581884
915901:29:52,604 --> 01:29:54,563
9160of people in the
9161low carb community,
9162
91631885
916401:29:54,693 --> 01:29:57,217
9165doctors, authors,
9166like Gary Taubes
9167
91681886
916901:29:57,348 --> 01:29:59,350
9170and Nina Teicholz,
9171it's important for us
9172
91731887
917401:29:59,481 --> 01:30:01,961
9175to have the experts on,
9176'cause we're like see
9177
91781888
917901:30:02,092 --> 01:30:03,354
9180what that guy said .
9181
91821889
918301:30:03,485 --> 01:30:06,662
9184Anna also, turns out,
9185is a great cook.
9186
91871890
918801:30:06,792 --> 01:30:09,360
9189As a person who works
9190with food a lot,
9191
91921891
919301:30:09,491 --> 01:30:12,319
9194I get asked many questions about
9195
91961892
919701:30:12,450 --> 01:30:16,062
9198fake sweeteners or
9199fake this or fake that
9200
92011893
920201:30:16,193 --> 01:30:18,195
9203and I personally think
9204it's gonna have to
9205
92061894
920701:30:18,325 --> 01:30:19,762
9208go in an even more
9209natural direction
9210
92111895
921201:30:19,892 --> 01:30:22,286
9213to where we just have
9214this return to just
9215
92161896
921701:30:22,417 --> 01:30:26,072
9218eating food in its
9219most natural state.
9220
92211897
922201:30:35,212 --> 01:30:37,780
9223Vinnie and I are very passionate
9224
92251898
922601:30:37,910 --> 01:30:39,521
9227about this topic,
9228let's say you watched
9229
92301899
923101:30:39,651 --> 01:30:41,392
9232this documentary,
9233let's say you watched
9234
92351900
923601:30:41,523 --> 01:30:43,133
9237the others and you're
9238like, this is it,
9239
92401901
924101:30:43,263 --> 01:30:45,962
9242I'm gonna do this.
9243I am going to give up
9244
92451902
924601:30:46,092 --> 01:30:47,572
9247the processed sugars and grains
9248
92491903
925001:30:47,703 --> 01:30:50,227
9251and I'm gonna go for a
9252high-fat, low-carb diet
9253
92541904
925501:30:50,357 --> 01:30:53,230
9256and which you should,
9257do it, try it.
9258
92591905
926001:30:53,360 --> 01:30:57,887
9261It can't hurt to not
9262have sugars and grains.
9263
92641906
926501:30:58,017 --> 01:31:01,891
9266Like just try it.
9267When that happens
9268
92691907
927001:31:02,021 --> 01:31:03,980
9271and there's an adjustment phase,
9272
92731908
927401:31:04,110 --> 01:31:06,809
9275all of us in this country,
9276myself included,
9277
92781909
927901:31:06,939 --> 01:31:08,724
9280have been in the diet mentality.
9281
92821910
928301:31:08,854 --> 01:31:11,030
9284If we can peel back
9285that diet mentality,
9286
92871911
928801:31:11,161 --> 01:31:12,379
9289it would be amazing.