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302[02:51] * Set by zifnab!zifnab@alioth.zifnab.net on Thu Jun 15 18:14:00 2017
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501[02:51] <06moniker-> my sd card got renamed by itself i think after nightly update
601[02:51] <06moniker-> is that normal
7[02:52] <02[R]> "renamed"?
801[02:57] <06moniker-> [R] my portable storage never showed this name that i remember http://i.imgur.com/PViSJOL.png
9[02:57] <02[R]> weird
10[02:57] <02[R]> you sure?
1101[02:58] <06moniker-> i think i would notice because i often check free space here
1201[02:58] <06moniker-> that's why i noticed now
1301[02:58] <06moniker-> does the name look weird?
1401[02:58] <06moniker-> like malware?
1501[03:00] <06moniker-> maybe it was done by some app i really cant tell at what time this changed
1601[03:00] <06moniker-> all i know is i flashed new nightly just now and then went to check and noticed weird name
17[03:01] <02[R]> well restore your backup
18[03:01] <02[R]> and check it
1901[03:02] <06moniker-> didn't make one
2001[03:03] <06moniker-> can i manually rename portable storage?
21[03:04] <02utack> huh what kind of a weird device is this? dual microSD?
2201[03:04] <06moniker-> it's one microsd card partitioned into 2 partitions via apps2sd, one for adoptable storage and one fat32
2301[03:04] <06moniker-> so it appears as if i have 2
24[03:05] <02utack> wat...ok
25[03:05] <02utack> not my problem
2601[03:05] <06moniker-> apps2sd can partition sdcard like that
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3204[03:15] <02delt> moniker-: i'd check the fat32 partition on a pc with fsck.vfat or similar
3301[03:15] <06moniker-> cant right now, can i do it on phone
34[03:15] <02delt> or if you have w**dows and it can't even check its own file format, that's just... sad
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3704[03:17] <02delt> moniker-: if you can figure out the /dev node for your sd card, fsck should be able to check it
38[03:18] <02delt> otherwise surely there's an app that can do that for you
3901[03:18] <06moniker-> alright
4004[03:18] <02delt> moniker-: btw what device, and what version of los?
4101[03:19] <06moniker-> lg l70 latest nightly available for download, i think 16/06
4201[03:19] <06moniker-> btw im not claiming los did it
4301[03:19] <06moniker-> i just noticed it now
4401[03:19] <06moniker-> so i came to ask questions
4504[03:19] <02delt> moniker-: no idea, sorry
46[03:20] <02delt> wish i could help
4701[03:20] <06moniker-> np
4801[03:20] <06moniker-> i hope it's benign and not some malware
4901[03:20] <06moniker-> just name looks weird to me
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5304[03:24] <02delt> moniker-: my first guess is filesystem f'up ... now what caused it, not sure
5401[03:24] <06moniker-> but i can access files just fine
55[03:25] <02delt> i'd still run a filesystem check next time it's possible
5601[03:25] <06moniker-> ok
57[03:25] <02delt> you have a pc running a decent os, ie. linux, freebsd, mac, etc...?
5801[03:26] <06moniker-> windows isnt part of decent os group?
5901[03:26] <06moniker-> then no
60[03:26] <02delt> i guess windows will be able to check its own filesystem (fat/vfat) but then again with microsoft "products" you never know what to expect
6101[03:27] <06moniker-> are you assuming i have card reader?
6201[03:27] <06moniker-> or through usb cable
63[03:27] <02delt> is your phone/tab rooted?
6401[03:27] <06moniker-> ye
65[03:28] <02delt> ok, then there will surely be an app to do a fs check on vfat
66[03:28] <02delt> like this one perhaps (haven't tried it) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ihere.repairsdcard
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7804[04:03] <02Lone-Star> moniker-: if you dont have card reader, format the sdcard in twrp as FAT. that's what I had to do with my L70
7901[04:04] <06moniker-> but i can read files just fine
80[04:05] <02Lone-Star> although i formatted it as ext4 and used it as adoptable storage. yeah, you may still be able to read files just fine, but there is something within the OS
8101[04:09] <06moniker-> im not sure if twrp can format without messing up partitions
8201[04:09] <06moniker-> because as i said i have 2 partitions on sd card one for adoptable storage and one fat32
83[04:09] <02Lone-Star> i missed where it had two partitions
8404[04:09] <02delt> moniker-: yeah, twrp will wipe that and redo the partition table with 1 (winDos) partition
8501[04:10] <06moniker-> it's a feature of apps2sd
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8704[04:10] <02delt> moniker-: just install linux on your pc and ditch winpieceofsh....dows :)
8801[04:10] <06moniker-> why ? 
89[04:11] <02Lone-Star> cause windoze sucks
90[04:11] <02Lone-Star> :D
91[04:11] <02delt> cos then you'll have a real operating system and will be able to do all these things without downloading tons of 3rd party malware-infested crippleware apps from the web
92[04:11] <02[R]> lol
93[04:11] <02Lone-Star> or burn a live cd of ubuntu or linux mint
94[04:12] <02delt> yeah, that way you can run it without even installing it
95[04:12] <02delt> i personally recommend mint 18.1, xfce edition
9601[04:12] <06moniker-> wait, how will i be able to read and write sdcard on linux without card reader that i couldnt do on windows?
97[04:12] <02Lone-Star> xfce ftw
98[04:12] <02delt> well any edition, kde will probably be easier if you're used to point and click
9901[04:12] <06moniker-> maybe i missed some magic linux driver that works by proximity
100[04:13] <02delt> oh yeah, you need some way to physically connect the sd card to the computer
101[04:13] <02delt> they're like $1 on ebay
102[04:14] <02delt> well, for reliable ones maybe $5 =)
10301[04:14] <06moniker-> so if i bought card reader then i would be able to do that also on windows
104[04:14] <02Lone-Star> yeah
10504[04:14] <02delt> moniker-: yeah but it would be a pain in the ass
106[04:14] <02Lone-Star> wal mart has card readers for $5
107[04:15] <02delt> and you'd need to dl some app to do it because windows can't do it with its built-in "features"
10801[04:15] <06moniker-> i think wiping windows installing linux to scan filesystem on sdcard would be more pain in the butt
10904[04:15] <02delt> moniker-: plus windows purposely does not support ext filesystems used by android and linux
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11201[04:15] <06moniker-> that's why there are 3rd party tools no?
113[04:16] <02delt> or dual boot if you *HAVE* to keep microsoft for some reason
114[04:16] <02Lone-Star> third party ext tools dont work like you would think in windows
11501[04:16] <06moniker-> now that would be even more pain
116[04:17] <02CreateChange> hello, i installed lineage just a few minutes ago, but am unable to utilize adb
117[04:17] <02CreateChange> says i have insufficient privileges - would someone be able to assist in fixing this?
11801[04:17] <06moniker-> did you miss when i said my second partition on sdcard is fat32?
119[04:17] <02Lone-Star> easiest thing, burn a cd of linux, boot into cd, run gparted and fix the issue
12004[04:17] <02delt> moniker-: the notion of symlinks doesn't exist on a fat partition, or user/group ownerships, or file permissions.... with later "versions" of their filesystem like ntfs they have a crummy implementation of those things at best
121[04:17] <02[R]> CreateChange: what is giing you the error and what is the exact error
122[04:18] <02CreateChange> i am simply trying to "adb reboot bootloader"
12301[04:18] <06moniker-> why would i need symlinks to have second partition on sdcard?
124[04:18] <02CreateChange> and the error is:error: insufficient permissions for device.
125[04:18] <02CreateChange> See [http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html] for more information.
12601[04:18] <06moniker-> you guys are trying ill give you that but make litttle sense XD
127[04:18] <02[R]> CreateChange: what os?
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129[04:18] <02Lone-Star> CreateChange: have you enabled adb in Developer Options?
13001[04:19] <06moniker-> in any case nhf
131[04:19] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: I have [R]: lineage, latest nightly buil
132[04:19] <02CreateChange> d
133[04:19] <02[R]> CreateChange: on your computer...
134[04:19] <02CreateChange> my bad - arch
135[04:19] <02[R]> and did you do what that url said?
13604[04:19] <02delt> moniker-: like Lone-Star said, the simplest option is to just create a live cd/usb from an iso... again using a shitty 3rd party virus infested piece of junk you need to download
13701[04:20] <06moniker-> lol not every 3rd party tool is virus infested
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13901[04:21] <06moniker-> is there 3ds max 2018 for linux?
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141[04:21] <02CreateChange> [R]: could you direct me to where the build.gradle file is?
142[04:21] <02pinPoint> yo
14301[04:22] <06moniker-> what about all the games?
14404[04:22] <02delt> moniker-: well, everyone is stuck with windows because everyone else is stuck with windows. there is *no* other reason to use, develop for, or even support such a crummy excuse for an operating system.
145[04:23] <02[R]> CreateChange: the part where it talks about udev
14601[04:23] <06moniker-> it's not just because others are use it
14701[04:23] <06moniker-> it's because it has all the software
148[04:23] <02delt> for the user it's bad enough, but i can assure you, it's even *much* worse for the programmer, web developer, net admin, etc etc
149[04:24] <02delt> see my statement *develop for*
15001[04:24] <06moniker-> i don't think it's bad for user, in fact depending on the knowhow of user linux might be much greater pain
151[04:24] <02CreateChange> [R]: working on that now - I'll get back to you once I look more into it, need to find vendor ID. thanks for the help
152[04:24] <02CreateChange> lsusb -v
153[04:24] <02CreateChange> whoops
15401[04:24] <06moniker-> plus it depends how you define all these terms you use
15501[04:25] <06moniker-> you just don't have software on linux
156[04:26] <02Lone-Star> CreateChange: Here is my android.rules file, it supports every android device -- https://pastebin.com/cLJDvMnu
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158[04:27] <02delt> wow you've never used (and much less programmed for) a real OS have you
159[04:27] <02TipsyMe> hello
16001[04:27] <06moniker-> i think you're taking it too emotionally now
161[04:28] <02Lone-Star> just create the 51-android.rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d and copy/paste mine into it
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16404[04:30] <02delt> moniker-: just take a good look at the EULA that comes with windows... pay close attention to section 3 :)
165[04:30] <02TipsyMe> anyone use a samsung j7?
166[04:30] <02pinPoint> we can haz all your bazezez?
16701[04:31] <06moniker-> what good is eula or no eula if you don't have software on linux?
168[04:31] <02alphis> delt: link?
169[04:31] <02delt> if linux didn't exist, probably freebsd or openbsd would have filled the same role, with about the same results.
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17101[04:32] <06moniker-> see, you are taking a defensive approach now without me even attacking linux
17201[04:32] <06moniker-> which suggests your passion is speaking louder than reason now
17304[04:34] <02delt> moniker-: i just gave you an argument -against- linux
17401[04:35] <06moniker-> but it makes no sense to go from "you should install linux to check your sdcard filesystem" to this, it's really bizarre argument
175[04:35] <12+Eugene> IRC doesn't have to make sense
176[04:35] <02CreateChange> Thanks Lone-Star, I already had the file, so I replaced it with that
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178[04:35] <02CreateChange> then chmod'd the file, but when running adb devices, it shows the device as connected, but still with no permissions.
17904[04:36] <02delt> moniker-: then just use a live cd/usb, no need to install it
18001[04:37] <06moniker-> why would i even use linux XD
18101[04:37] <06moniker-> it's fat32 partition
182[04:37] <02delt> and the other one is ext4
18301[04:38] <06moniker-> and?
184[04:38] <02delt> 21:26 < delt> i guess windows will be able to check its own filesystem (fat/vfat) but then again with microsoft "products" you never know what to expect
18501[04:38] <06moniker-> remember you are still suggesting me to first buy a card reader
18601[04:38] <06moniker-> i think windows has over time become a mystery for you, so you are not sure how to navigate it
18701[04:39] <06moniker-> probably because you don't use it
188[04:39] <02delt> yeah, if you dont' have a sd card reader, you're stuck using your phone to fix your sd card
18901[04:39] <06moniker-> and in that context every problem is blow out of proportions
19001[04:39] <06moniker-> ~*blown
19104[04:40] <02delt> moniker-: i had my windows "phase" when i tried to convince myself it wasn't so bad, but when you come from.... anything else really, it's a piece of defective worthless junk.
19201[04:40] <06moniker-> so you use hyperbole like every 3rd party software you download is virus infested crap, and you can never know what to expect
19301[04:41] <06moniker-> depends how you define defective worthless junk in your experience
19404[04:41] <02delt> moniker-: everything nowadays is based on some flavour of unix. to put things in perspective, windows started as a "prety face" for DOS, aka QDOS (Quick n Dirty OS) ... which was a copy of CP/M, which in turn was a cheap ripoff of the first unix prototypes from the late 60's early 70's.
19501[04:42] <06moniker-> you are trying to impose your value judgements without even being asked for them
19601[04:42] <06moniker-> that's not a nice way to talk, i can tell you right now, if you are so passionate about converting people you should rethink your approach
197[04:42] <02delt> and bill gates is on record saying to his design team about an early version of windows, and i quote "no, no, it has to be like on the macintosh"
19804[04:43] <02delt> moniker-: i don't want to convert you, i just want to illustrate reality
199[04:43] <02delt> then convert yourself, or not, if you wish
20001[04:43] <06moniker-> we haven't even defined what would be baselines for comparisons that we would agree for each of us depending on how we use computer
20101[04:43] <06moniker-> yet you are throwing terms like windows is bad linux is good, but such generalizations are effectively meaningless 
202[04:44] <02delt> ok, well disclaimer: all this is my personal opinion, bla bla bla, you are free to do whatever you want with it.
20301[04:44] <06moniker-> ofc i understand that, i can see you are passionate about linux
204[04:44] <02delt> 22:31 < delt> if linux didn't exist, probably freebsd or openbsd would have filled the same role, with about the same results.
205[04:45] <02delt> and i may add, probably even better results when it comes to operating on servers
20601[04:45] <06moniker-> but i wasn't part of this "us and them" antagonism neither by what i asked in here nor by my responses when you mentioned linux, i was only pointing out ridiculousness of suggestions to install linux for this particular issue as of yet
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20804[04:46] <02delt> moniker-: then don't install it. just use a livecd, if you wish. once you have a sd card reader of course.
20901[04:46] <06moniker-> you tried hard to drag me into debate why is linux better than windows but im not looking for it :)
21001[04:47] <06moniker-> what im going to do will probably revolve around fixing it inside phone
211[04:47] <02GigabytePro> Linux better than Windows? I'M IN!
21201[04:47] <06moniker-> i dont plan to take sdcard out of the phone
21301[04:47] <06moniker-> or even leave it be as it is since it's working just fine
21404[04:47] <02delt> moniker-: then install an app that can check fat partitions
21501[04:47] <06moniker-> maybe i will
21601[04:47] <06moniker-> was looking into aparted
21701[04:48] <06moniker-> will see if it can
218[04:48] <02delt> but as you said, file access seems fine... doesn't mean 100% of your data isn't corrupted
219[04:48] <02delt> since you don't even know what caused the fs label to go bad
22001[04:49] <06moniker-> yeah well the likelihood of data getting corrupted is small in my estimation
22101[04:49] <06moniker-> plus it's storage mostly for mp3s
22201[04:49] <06moniker-> so i have all the backups
223[04:49] <02delt> ok, so you can easily replace the sd card if it's physically defective
224[04:50] <02delt> which i doubt, if it's a good quality one and it's been working fine before
22501[04:50] <06moniker-> i dont think anything is physically wrong with it, again that would be even smaller than data corruption chance
226[04:50] <02delt> again, on any (real) os, to test this just pop up a terminal window and type a command that has been working on every unix system since the late 1960's
227[04:51] <02delt> that includes android, if you use a terminal app
22801[04:51] <06moniker-> there you go, if i can do it from android terminal why even bother taking card out
22901[04:51] <06moniker-> :)
230[04:52] <02Lone-Star> CreateChange: may have to reboot pc for changes to take/ also make sure your android sdk is up to date
231[04:52] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: ok, I will give that a shot, thanks for checking back in
232[04:52] <02delt> except the /dev part is different on different OS
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23404[04:53] <02delt> moniker-: becausej it's a lot easier to type with a real keyboard than onscreen on a cell phone, but if you're stuck with that, it'll have to do
23501[04:54] <06moniker-> so you never used app that allows screensharing of mobile on pc and controlling it from pc?
236[04:55] <02GigabytePro> By the way, for everyone's future reference, fsck.vfat exists in Cygwin.
23701[04:55] <06moniker-> like AirMore
238[04:55] <02delt> GigabytePro: fwiw it's also in the msys2 repo
23901[04:55] <06moniker-> or AirDroid i think
24004[04:56] <02delt> moniker-: or teamviewer
241[04:56] <02GigabytePro> delt: Am unfamiliar.
242[04:56] <02delt> GigabytePro: i used it a few years ago to port stuff to windows
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244[04:57] <02delt> now i use mxe to cross-compile directly from linux, much less hassle
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246[04:58] <02GigabytePro> delt: Interesting.
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248[04:59] <02tetranitrate> has anyone experienced a crash/reboot upon the receipt of a text message?
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250[05:00] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: no go on the reboot
251[05:00] <02tetranitrate> note 3 lineage 14.1-20170613, it has only happened twice
252[05:01] <02GigabytePro> tetranitrate: logcat and file bug?
253[05:01] <02delt> galaxy s3 (d2att) here, sending/receiving texts seems to work fine
254[05:01] <02tetranitrate> normally my phone will vibrate twice briefly to indicate the receipt of a text, but two times the second vibration has gone on for several seconds and then the phone reboots
255[05:02] <02tetranitrate> I've sent and received dozens of texts after installing this build, so it's not a big enough issue for me to worry about
256[05:02] <02tetranitrate> I'm just wondering if it is a known issue
257[05:03] <02delt> i haven't sent/received dozens of texts since i've installed lineage on my cp though =)
258[05:04] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: I also discovered that I am unable to boot into recovery mode now, too
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261[05:20] <02Lone-Star> CreateChange: power off phone and try using the button combo to boot to twrp, if you cant, then you lost twrp and will have to reflash it
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263[05:21] <02tetranitrate> do I have to have logcat running all the time to catch the error when it occurs?
264[05:21] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: have tried that - how can I reflash it without adb access?
265[05:22] <02Lone-Star> but first, go into developer options and disable "update cyanogen recovery". you flash twrp with fastboot, not adb
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268[05:25] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: I don't have that option in developer settings
269[05:26] <02Lone-Star> k, think its gone in lineageos 14, it's there in lineageos 13. anyways, just reflash twrp the same way you did it the first time
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272[05:34] <02CreateChange> Lone-Star: thanks, i didnt realize they were separate functions - would you suggest simply reinstalling lineage in hopes of fixing the adb issue?
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