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1[28/12/2014, 9:51:37 AM] Ian Cheong: I've never written any long stories. Just short ones.
2[28/12/2014, 9:51:38 AM] Faruk Ates: Also: long walks through nature
3[28/12/2014, 9:51:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: long stories were a changeup for me
4[28/12/2014, 9:51:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: since sparkleponies is basically short stories and essays
5[28/12/2014, 9:52:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: but i found that having an idea of what you want to have happen at the quarter point, halfway point, three quarter point, and end is VERY helpful
6[28/12/2014, 9:52:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: because then you're working toward discrete goals
7[28/12/2014, 9:52:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: instead of being like "ummm, i'm 5k words in, and the end is so far off, how do i get there?"
8[28/12/2014, 9:53:14 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah that's kind of my challenge as well
9[28/12/2014, 9:53:28 AM] Faruk Ates: I often have later segments worked out in much clearer detail
10[28/12/2014, 9:53:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: even if it's just an idea of "halfway through, protagonist has a disaster"
11[28/12/2014, 9:53:40 AM] Faruk Ates: and getting to those points is where I'm like, hrmmmmmmmm
12[28/12/2014, 9:53:42 AM] Randi Harper: is the whole "senpai" thing specific to chan culture
13[28/12/2014, 9:53:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: at least you have some idea
14[28/12/2014, 9:53:51 AM] Ian Cheong: it's anime culture, randi
15[28/12/2014, 9:53:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: ummm, i think it's anime
16[28/12/2014, 9:53:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
17[28/12/2014, 9:54:01 AM] Ian Cheong: i hope chris senpai notices me on twitter
18[28/12/2014, 9:54:03 AM] Ian Cheong: for example.
19[28/12/2014, 9:54:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: there's a lot of bleedover from anime onto chan though
20[28/12/2014, 9:54:16 AM] Faruk Ates: Or when Chris RT's you, going "senpai noticed me!"
21[28/12/2014, 9:54:18 AM] Faruk Ates: ;)
22[28/12/2014, 9:54:24 AM] Ian Cheong: it's self-deprecating to an extent.
23[28/12/2014, 9:54:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: i believe it's the translation of "teacher," correct?
24[28/12/2014, 9:54:31 AM] Ian Cheong: yup
25[28/12/2014, 9:54:32 AM] Faruk Ates: Multiple things
26[28/12/2014, 9:54:41 AM] Faruk Ates: Teacher is one and the more literal translation
27[28/12/2014, 9:54:48 AM] Faruk Ates: But it can also be "mentor" and informal
28[28/12/2014, 9:54:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: like, teacher/mentor/advisor/parent almost?
29[28/12/2014, 9:54:56 AM] Ian Cheong: its like someone can be older and wiser than you so you call them senpai because you look up to them.
30[28/12/2014, 9:54:58 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah exactly
31[28/12/2014, 9:55:12 AM] Ian Cheong: like i said, it's pretty self-deprecating.
32[28/12/2014, 9:55:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: you see it a lot in fighting animes
33[28/12/2014, 9:55:34 AM] Faruk Ates: But not in a healthy manner
34[28/12/2014, 9:55:46 AM] Faruk Ates: Self-deprecation can be good, or bad, depending on how you apply it
35[28/12/2014, 9:55:56 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Lately people have been getting me into Kamen Rider. Such a nice change of pace to have some media from Japan where everyone is a highschool graduate and people generally aren't pervy creepers.
36[28/12/2014, 9:56:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: ugh, that's the hardest part of anime
37[28/12/2014, 9:56:10 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, in anime it's very "I'm obsessed w/ this person, I exist for them to aknowledge me" typically.
38[28/12/2014, 9:56:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: is finding stuff without the pervy parts
39[28/12/2014, 9:56:16 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Plus who doesn't like a good rubber suit fight?
40[28/12/2014, 9:56:22 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah, I've been trying to get into some animes but the pervy stuff is ick
41[28/12/2014, 9:56:32 AM] Ian Cheong: mostly because it's not consensual or denies women agency.
42[28/12/2014, 9:56:52 AM] Ian Cheong: in Sword Art Online the female characters exist to serve the male character.
43[28/12/2014, 9:56:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's like, this one i'm watching now, Deadman Wonderland, has a girl who looks like a teenager in what is basically a skintight suit the color of her skin
44[28/12/2014, 9:57:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: and it's like "GODDAMMIT SHE'S A STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER STAHHHHHHHP"
45[28/12/2014, 9:57:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh man, that. I turned that off the instant she showed up
46[28/12/2014, 9:57:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: it fucking bugs me every time i see it
47[28/12/2014, 9:57:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Just, nope. Too much dignity.
48[28/12/2014, 9:57:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: because it's so unnecessary
49[28/12/2014, 9:57:38 AM] Faruk Ates: Is there any feminist-friendly anime right now?
50[28/12/2014, 9:57:41 AM] Faruk Ates: Like, genuinely so
51[28/12/2014, 9:57:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: and the show is dealing with all these other concepts that are really intriguing
52[28/12/2014, 9:57:49 AM] Randi Harper: guu
53[28/12/2014, 9:57:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: BUT NOPE, GOTTA HAVE THE PERVSUIT
54[28/12/2014, 9:57:57 AM] Faruk Ates: Because my friend Jenn and I were talking the other day about the brilliant Onion article we both identified with a bit too much
55[28/12/2014, 9:58:06 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Currently? Nothing really comes to mind
56[28/12/2014, 9:58:13 AM] Athena Hollow: Sailor Moon? LOL
57[28/12/2014, 9:58:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: a lot of it is cultural
58[28/12/2014, 9:58:17 AM] Athena Hollow: that's about all i got.
59[28/12/2014, 9:58:20 AM] Faruk Ates: ( This one: http://www.theonion.com/articles/woman-takes-short-halfhour-break-from-being-femini,35026/ )
60[28/12/2014, 9:58:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I GUESS Madoka's relatively OK, if you can watch it without the intro?
61[28/12/2014, 9:58:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: Madoka was really interesting
62[28/12/2014, 9:58:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: but yeah, the intro
63[28/12/2014, 9:58:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: OH LOOK, UPSKIRT SCHOOLGIRL SHOTS
64[28/12/2014, 9:58:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: STAHHHHHHHHHP JAPAN
65[28/12/2014, 9:58:49 AM] Faruk Ates: This, right here, is why I stopped watching Anime.
66[28/12/2014, 9:58:50 AM] Athena Hollow: Ghost in the Shell is back & forth, IMO.
67[28/12/2014, 9:58:51 AM] Faruk Ates: Pity.
68[28/12/2014, 9:59:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: GitS season 1 is one of my favorite anime seasons ever
69[28/12/2014, 9:59:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, GitS has a general lack of female characters
70[28/12/2014, 9:59:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think the only one that's come close recently is Attack on Titan
71[28/12/2014, 9:59:45 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: also a general lack of character development
72[28/12/2014, 9:59:48 AM] Faruk Ates: I was so massively into it, way back in the late 90s and early 00's
73[28/12/2014, 10:00:01 AM] Randi Harper: <3 lain
74[28/12/2014, 10:00:01 AM] Athena Hollow: I personally just tell everyone to watch the movies & ignore the show LOL but yeah
75[28/12/2014, 10:00:06 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, Attack on Titan's pretty decent
76[28/12/2014, 10:00:13 AM] Ian Cheong: Haven't seen Attack.
77[28/12/2014, 10:00:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: you should watch it
78[28/12/2014, 10:00:17 AM] Faruk Ates: but to see that even still today, nobody can really think of a good feminist-friendly anime show is just… makes me sad :(
79[28/12/2014, 10:00:21 AM] Ian Cheong: I love GitS.
80[28/12/2014, 10:00:26 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: go a bit older and there's Black Lagoon
81[28/12/2014, 10:00:30 AM] Faruk Ates: I had Attack on Titan recommended to me by someone else
82[28/12/2014, 10:00:31 AM] Athena Hollow: I think a lot of that has to do with the culture, Faruk.
83[28/12/2014, 10:00:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: it deals with a lot of the emotions of way, and how people are changed by it
84[28/12/2014, 10:00:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: *war
85[28/12/2014, 10:00:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: not way
86[28/12/2014, 10:00:47 AM] Athena Hollow: Like, someone was just arrested for 'indecent' art, cuz it had a vagina.
87[28/12/2014, 10:00:48 AM] Athena Hollow: in japan.
88[28/12/2014, 10:00:50 AM] Faruk Ates: Athena: yeah, totally
89[28/12/2014, 10:00:53 AM] Ian Cheong: I'll check it out Chris.
90[28/12/2014, 10:00:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: guh
91[28/12/2014, 10:01:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: BECAUSE VAGINAS DON'T EXIST UNLESS THEY'RE UPSKIRT SHOTS
92[28/12/2014, 10:01:08 AM] Athena Hollow: 50 mile tall cocks? totally ok.
93[28/12/2014, 10:01:10 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: where hey, the most significant, powerful character in the series is some cigar chomping crime boss lady with a napalm-scarred face
94[28/12/2014, 10:01:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: dammit japan
95[28/12/2014, 10:01:20 AM] Athena Hollow: Vaginas in a painting? OMG END OF THE WORLD.
96[28/12/2014, 10:01:22 AM] Athena Hollow: It's so weird.
97[28/12/2014, 10:01:28 AM] Faruk Ates: But that's not something that I care to overlook for my media consumption since I have so very little time for it as it is :(
98[28/12/2014, 10:01:45 AM] Faruk Ates: I've stopped watching most stuff altogether due to lack of time
99[28/12/2014, 10:01:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but then you've got the twins arc in there, going way way way too dark and making it tough to recommend the series
100[28/12/2014, 10:01:49 AM] Athena Hollow: (And it's not like the US is any different, don't get me wrong lol)
101[28/12/2014, 10:02:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: anyone seen Psycho Pass?
102[28/12/2014, 10:02:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: true athena
103[28/12/2014, 10:02:19 AM] Faruk Ates: Well, but at least the US produces (much more) feminist-friendly shows
104[28/12/2014, 10:02:19 AM] Ian Cheong: I have Psycho Pass. Haven't seen it yet though.
105[28/12/2014, 10:02:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: Psycho Pass is solid
106[28/12/2014, 10:02:24 AM] Ian Cheong: Like I bought the blu-rays when they were on sale.
107[28/12/2014, 10:02:32 AM] Faruk Ates: I'll check it out
108[28/12/2014, 10:02:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: i got a very Cowboy Bebop vibe from it
109[28/12/2014, 10:02:41 AM] Athena Hollow: Oh definitely. I just meant on the raw 'penis vs vagina = obscenity' thing.
110[28/12/2014, 10:02:43 AM] Faruk Ates: ooh
111[28/12/2014, 10:02:46 AM] Athena Hollow: Both are a big no no here at least LOL
112[28/12/2014, 10:02:47 AM] Faruk Ates: yeah
113[28/12/2014, 10:02:50 AM] Ian Cheong: There's a new Ghost in the Shell.
114[28/12/2014, 10:02:55 AM] Athena Hollow: but boobs on a woman, still obscene facepalm
115[28/12/2014, 10:03:04 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
116[28/12/2014, 10:03:06 AM] Ian Cheong: Just came out on bluray.
117[28/12/2014, 10:03:08 AM] Ian Cheong: Might wanna grab that.
118[28/12/2014, 10:03:19 AM] Ian Cheong: series, btw.
119[28/12/2014, 10:03:26 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: American shows generally also suffer from "female characters? Plural?" as a rule
120[28/12/2014, 10:03:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's something you see a lot
121[28/12/2014, 10:03:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: "we'll throw in a strong female character"
122[28/12/2014, 10:03:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: "who're her friends?"
123[28/12/2014, 10:03:49 AM] Ian Cheong: You know what's a good American show with strong female characters?
124[28/12/2014, 10:03:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: "DUDES"
125[28/12/2014, 10:03:53 AM] Ian Cheong: Characters, plural.
126[28/12/2014, 10:03:54 AM] Ian Cheong: Fringe.
127[28/12/2014, 10:04:04 AM] Faruk Ates: Canadian-American, British-American or British shows generally do a lot better
128[28/12/2014, 10:04:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Orphan Black pretty much wins
129[28/12/2014, 10:04:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: i still need to watch that
130[28/12/2014, 10:04:33 AM] Faruk Ates: I watch Castle despite its formulaic-ness because the character chemistry is awesome AND because the cast is very diverse
131[28/12/2014, 10:04:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: i've heard it's amazing
132[28/12/2014, 10:04:35 AM] Ian Cheong: Same.
133[28/12/2014, 10:04:36 AM] Faruk Ates: Orphan Black is AMAZING
134[28/12/2014, 10:04:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it is
135[28/12/2014, 10:04:39 AM] Faruk Ates: SO GOOOOOOD
136[28/12/2014, 10:04:42 AM] Ian Cheong: I need to see it.
137[28/12/2014, 10:04:47 AM] Faruk Ates: Yes you do
138[28/12/2014, 10:04:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: is it on Netflix?
139[28/12/2014, 10:05:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: not streaming last I checked
140[28/12/2014, 10:05:03 AM] Ian Cheong: I don't get Netflix over here so I'll have to buy the BR's.
141[28/12/2014, 10:05:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: drat
142[28/12/2014, 10:05:10 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: might be wrong
143[28/12/2014, 10:05:12 AM] Faruk Ates: http://www.canistream.it/search/tv/orphan%20black
144[28/12/2014, 10:05:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I think the first season JUST finally came out on DVD?
145[28/12/2014, 10:05:34 AM] Faruk Ates: doesn't look like it is streaming atm
146[28/12/2014, 10:05:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: i just want everything to move to the Netflix model
147[28/12/2014, 10:05:41 AM] Faruk Ates: me too
148[28/12/2014, 10:05:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: and i know there's economic reasons why we don't have that yet
149[28/12/2014, 10:05:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: BUT I WANT
150[28/12/2014, 10:05:57 AM] Ian Cheong: It'll happen.
151[28/12/2014, 10:05:59 AM] Ian Cheong: Just a matter of time.
152[28/12/2014, 10:06:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
153[28/12/2014, 10:06:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's frustrating, because its something I keep trying to get people into, but its EXCESSIVELY serial in nature, and you just can't find the first season
154[28/12/2014, 10:06:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: that was something that always pissed me off about buying anime videos
155[28/12/2014, 10:06:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: back when videotape was a thing
156[28/12/2014, 10:06:37 AM] Faruk Ates: lol: https://twitter.com/radicalbytes/status/549023004898754560
157[28/12/2014, 10:06:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: you'd get these stores that have 2-18 of a series
158[28/12/2014, 10:06:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: 2 episodes for $30? $35 subbed?
159[28/12/2014, 10:06:47 AM] Athena Hollow: I fucking love Orphan Black
160[28/12/2014, 10:06:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
161[28/12/2014, 10:06:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: and i'm like "I WANT TO WATCH THE FIRST ONE SO I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING"
162[28/12/2014, 10:07:04 AM] Athena Hollow: WHEN DOES THE NEW SEASON START!?!?!?
163[28/12/2014, 10:07:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
164[28/12/2014, 10:07:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and, soon I think?
165[28/12/2014, 10:07:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Just saw a preview during Doctor Who
166[28/12/2014, 10:07:23 AM] Faruk Ates: Best thing about Orphan Black's pilot: there is only one straight white male and he's a tertiary character
167[28/12/2014, 10:07:25 AM] Athena Hollow: YAYYYYY
168[28/12/2014, 10:07:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: wait, there's a straight white male in the pilot?
169[28/12/2014, 10:07:46 AM] Athena Hollow: Ex boyfriend
170[28/12/2014, 10:07:47 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh right
171[28/12/2014, 10:07:48 AM] Faruk Ates: Paul
172[28/12/2014, 10:07:48 AM] Athena Hollow: baby daddy
173[28/12/2014, 10:07:53 AM] Athena Hollow: OH and Paul
174[28/12/2014, 10:07:54 AM] Athena Hollow: So there's 2
175[28/12/2014, 10:08:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Still, lots of 'not straight white dude' as well
176[28/12/2014, 10:08:08 AM] Faruk Ates: is the ex in the pilot?
177[28/12/2014, 10:08:15 AM] Athena Hollow: OH missed that sorry
178[28/12/2014, 10:08:17 AM] Athena Hollow: :)
179[28/12/2014, 10:08:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I think, but, also you missed the white qualifier there, no?
180[28/12/2014, 10:08:43 AM] Athena Hollow: Is the ex not white? Always thought he was >_>
181[28/12/2014, 10:08:48 AM] Faruk Ates: he's unclear
182[28/12/2014, 10:08:51 AM] Athena Hollow: Ahh
183[28/12/2014, 10:09:16 AM] Faruk Ates: he has a bit of an ethnic slant to him, buuuuuuut it's something that could be Russian or Polish instead of, say, Latina or Middle Eastern
184[28/12/2014, 10:09:22 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah.
185[28/12/2014, 10:09:45 AM] Athena Hollow: I mean, if he ever identifies, then kick ass
186[28/12/2014, 10:09:48 AM] Faruk Ates: anyway, yes, Orphan Black is awesome
187[28/12/2014, 10:10:00 AM] Athena Hollow: Yes. Love it love it love it.
188[28/12/2014, 10:10:02 AM] Ian Cheong: It's funny to read you two geeking out over Orphan Black.
189[28/12/2014, 10:10:04 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
190[28/12/2014, 10:10:10 AM] Faruk Ates: Tatiana is just mindblowingly good as the lead
191[28/12/2014, 10:10:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
192[28/12/2014, 10:10:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: plus it's just a darn well written show
193[28/12/2014, 10:10:33 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah
194[28/12/2014, 10:10:37 AM] Faruk Ates: I was really into Continuum as well
195[28/12/2014, 10:10:42 AM] Ian Cheong: Oh I believe it.
196[28/12/2014, 10:10:48 AM] Faruk Ates: shot and situated in Vancouver, where I lived for 1.5 years
197[28/12/2014, 10:10:56 AM] Faruk Ates: great time travel writing
198[28/12/2014, 10:10:58 AM] Athena Hollow: I wanted to be into Continuum... but there was something that I just couldn't get into, which sucked.
199[28/12/2014, 10:11:01 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: constantly sets up these new apparent status quos that last like, 2 or 3 episodes at best
200[28/12/2014, 10:11:03 AM] Athena Hollow: I dont know what that thing was
201[28/12/2014, 10:11:16 AM] David Gallant: I have returned.
202[28/12/2014, 10:11:19 AM] Faruk Ates: I couldn't get into the last season with Continuum
203[28/12/2014, 10:11:22 AM] Faruk Ates: wb David!
204[28/12/2014, 10:11:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: hola
205[28/12/2014, 10:11:34 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey David.
206[28/12/2014, 10:12:18 AM] Faruk Ates: Oh man, Cernovich and his obsession with Jian Ghomeshi is so telling
207[28/12/2014, 10:12:20 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: anyway though, now I'm trying to think of shows in general with decent numbers of women in their casts and I'm consistently looking back to stuff from the late '90s early '00s.
208[28/12/2014, 10:12:27 AM] Faruk Ates: "SJW" WELL NOT REALLY.
209[28/12/2014, 10:12:33 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: which, yeah, that's a shame
210[28/12/2014, 10:12:49 AM] Faruk Ates: Transparent is good
211[28/12/2014, 10:12:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: you missed the juicebroparty yesterday faruk
212[28/12/2014, 10:13:02 AM] Faruk Ates: Oh yeah, I did indeed
213[28/12/2014, 10:13:10 AM] Faruk Ates: Busy cooking a Christmas brunch
214[28/12/2014, 10:13:15 AM] Chris Kluwe: i finished going through all ten years of his blog posts
215[28/12/2014, 10:13:16 AM] Faruk Ates: I was sous-cheffing
216[28/12/2014, 10:13:18 AM] Faruk Ates: Wow
217[28/12/2014, 10:13:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: and blecchhhh
218[28/12/2014, 10:13:24 AM] Athena Hollow: god that blog is soul rending.
219[28/12/2014, 10:13:32 AM] Faruk Ates: How many hugs do you need, Chris?
220[28/12/2014, 10:13:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
221[28/12/2014, 10:13:50 AM] Ian Cheong: I can't imagine.
222[28/12/2014, 10:13:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's just like, you see this disintegration of a person
223[28/12/2014, 10:13:52 AM] Faruk Ates: Faruk Ates gives Chris a baker's dozen
224[28/12/2014, 10:13:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: and on the one hand it's really sad
225[28/12/2014, 10:14:01 AM] Ian Cheong: Wanna see something dumb?
226[28/12/2014, 10:14:04 AM] Quinnae: hugs Chris
227[28/12/2014, 10:14:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: and on the other it's like "ASSHOLE STOP HARASSING PEOPLE"
228[28/12/2014, 10:14:12 AM] Faruk Ates: It's worse than that: it eats away at your own humanity
229[28/12/2014, 10:14:16 AM] Ian Cheong: https://twitter.com/retrogamingfan/status/548996534730493954/photo/1
230[28/12/2014, 10:14:17 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah :(
231[28/12/2014, 10:14:32 AM] Athena Hollow: I think I just need to get everyone's PO box or whatever, and just constantly make cookies as a "Eat these and feel better about having to deal with awful people" package LOL
232[28/12/2014, 10:14:37 AM] Chris Kluwe: like, you can see where he started out genuinely believing he was going to make a difference and fight corruption and all this
233[28/12/2014, 10:14:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: and then stuff happens, and he just can't deal with it
234[28/12/2014, 10:15:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: and he turns into the very thing he wanted to fight
235[28/12/2014, 10:15:11 AM] Ian Cheong: That's pitiful.
236[28/12/2014, 10:15:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: and he still doesn't recognize it
237[28/12/2014, 10:15:26 AM] David Gallant: Cernovich is obsessed with Ghomeshi now? I guess that figures.
238[28/12/2014, 10:15:27 AM] Ian Cheong: When you gaze into the abyss...
239[28/12/2014, 10:15:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's the other thing!
240[28/12/2014, 10:15:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: he's READ Nietzsche
241[28/12/2014, 10:15:42 AM] Faruk Ates: Chris: so, he totally Harvey Dent'ed?
242[28/12/2014, 10:15:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh completely
243[28/12/2014, 10:15:50 AM] Ian Cheong: So he should totally get that. Why doesn't he get it?
244[28/12/2014, 10:16:04 AM] Faruk Ates: I find this stuff so fascinating
245[28/12/2014, 10:16:11 AM] David Gallant: Ugh
246[28/12/2014, 10:16:14 AM] Athena Hollow: Ian. ugh. that thread....
247[28/12/2014, 10:16:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think he's become a narcissistic sociopath without recognizing that he's become one
248[28/12/2014, 10:16:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: and he keeps twisting away from applying what he knows to himself
249[28/12/2014, 10:16:46 AM] Faruk Ates: because, like, I constantly find myself in those positions and then find myself making the obvious (to me) decision to _not_ go down the path of "stooping to the level at which they operate"
250[28/12/2014, 10:16:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: i don't even think it's conscious at this point
251[28/12/2014, 10:17:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: because at some level, if he ever does acknowledge all the stuff he's done
252[28/12/2014, 10:17:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's it
253[28/12/2014, 10:17:14 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah athena it's pretty bad.
254[28/12/2014, 10:17:17 AM] Faruk Ates: yeah
255[28/12/2014, 10:17:45 AM] Faruk Ates: That's usually the problem keeping people 'stuck' in this ever-harsher defense of the status quo
256[28/12/2014, 10:18:06 AM] Athena Hollow: So, Chris, basically we need to find someone who, back in the day he thought was completely gutless and horrible, and ask MC a question that would harken an answer similar to what that person answered.
257[28/12/2014, 10:18:13 AM] Athena Hollow: Then put them up, side by side.
258[28/12/2014, 10:18:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: he's already done that
259[28/12/2014, 10:18:22 AM] Faruk Ates: So, I've been dealing with sexist bros in the tech industry for a number of years, very actively
260[28/12/2014, 10:18:22 AM] Athena Hollow: Because short of that, I don't think he's ever going to see it.
261[28/12/2014, 10:18:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: on his blog
262[28/12/2014, 10:18:30 AM] Athena Hollow: ............
263[28/12/2014, 10:18:31 AM] Faruk Ates: and this is what I see as the most common issue
264[28/12/2014, 10:18:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: if you compare what he's said currently
265[28/12/2014, 10:18:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: to what he talked about when it first started
266[28/12/2014, 10:18:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's night and day
267[28/12/2014, 10:18:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's why i keep trying to pin him down on Hotwheels
268[28/12/2014, 10:19:01 AM] Faruk Ates: when people are trying to entertain our points, it forces them to acknowledge the damage they've caused being complicit in the systems of inequality
269[28/12/2014, 10:19:09 AM] Faruk Ates: and _that_ acknowledgement scares them
270[28/12/2014, 10:19:11 AM] Faruk Ates: terrifies them
271[28/12/2014, 10:19:14 AM] Faruk Ates: and makes them dig in their heels
272[28/12/2014, 10:19:17 AM] Faruk Ates: double down on their stance
273[28/12/2014, 10:19:19 AM] Faruk Ates: and fight instead
274[28/12/2014, 10:19:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: no one wants to think they weren't the hero all along
275[28/12/2014, 10:19:28 AM] Faruk Ates: yeah
276[28/12/2014, 10:19:45 AM] Faruk Ates: it's such a constant thing, so much so I've started making it a part of every talk I give
277[28/12/2014, 10:19:54 AM] Faruk Ates: well, all but the purely tech talks
278[28/12/2014, 10:19:57 AM] Athena Hollow: I think that's why I've always been so very attentive to how people act & react & call me out if I fuck up, because I don't ever wanna be 'that guy'.
279[28/12/2014, 10:19:59 AM] David Gallant: Fuck that, I know I'm never the hero.
280[28/12/2014, 10:20:15 AM] Athena Hollow: I don't want to be the hero, but I don't wanna be a doubling down douchebag either lol
281[28/12/2014, 10:20:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: right athena, it's always this introspective stuff
282[28/12/2014, 10:20:32 AM] Faruk Ates: We like to think of ourselves as good people; some have a harder time dealing with the imperfections we all have, as well.
283[28/12/2014, 10:20:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: where if i make a mistake, fuck, but i'm gonna do my damndest not to make that mistake again
284[28/12/2014, 10:20:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: instead of doubling down on it
285[28/12/2014, 10:20:43 AM] Athena Hollow: exactly
286[28/12/2014, 10:20:49 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep. It's called growing as a person.
287[28/12/2014, 10:20:50 AM] Athena Hollow: And everyone fucks up. All of us.
288[28/12/2014, 10:20:56 AM] Athena Hollow: It's how we handle it from there that's important.
289[28/12/2014, 10:20:59 AM] Faruk Ates: Having a (social) safety net plays a role in this
290[28/12/2014, 10:21:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: honestly, i think that's one of the subconscious problems of gamergate
291[28/12/2014, 10:21:11 AM] Faruk Ates: When it's okay to fuck up, people are more okay with the act of fucking up
292[28/12/2014, 10:21:18 AM] Chris Kluwe: is that they're used to being able to go back to a previous save state
293[28/12/2014, 10:21:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: if they screw up
294[28/12/2014, 10:21:21 AM] Faruk Ates: And more okay with acknowledging that
295[28/12/2014, 10:21:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: and then do it right
296[28/12/2014, 10:21:28 AM] Ian Cheong: Ha yeah Chris.
297[28/12/2014, 10:21:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: AS IF THE MISTAKE NEVER EXISTED
298[28/12/2014, 10:21:34 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah seriously
299[28/12/2014, 10:21:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm still not buying the whole "GG plays videogames" thing
300[28/12/2014, 10:21:40 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
301[28/12/2014, 10:21:49 AM] Faruk Ates: "Milo was never against gamers, he just needed to load a previous save"
302[28/12/2014, 10:21:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh, i don't think they play as much as they think they play
303[28/12/2014, 10:21:51 AM] Athena Hollow: I think the anonymity plays a big role w/ that. They can delete & start over
304[28/12/2014, 10:21:59 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I mean, case in point here, no, this is a channer thing
305[28/12/2014, 10:22:04 AM] Ian Cheong: Gamergate was founded on harassment, but wait, it's now about ethics in game journalism! You have to forget the part where it was about harassment!
306[28/12/2014, 10:22:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: exactly
307[28/12/2014, 10:22:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: if I say something horrible, its OK, because nobody knows I was the one who said it"
308[28/12/2014, 10:22:27 AM] Ian Cheong: They think they can perform a mulligan in real life.
309[28/12/2014, 10:22:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: the well is poisoned, well, i'll just reload a different character who didn't drink from that well
310[28/12/2014, 10:22:39 AM] Faruk Ates: "Mike C never mocked gamers as being pitiful beings. **loads previous save**"
311[28/12/2014, 10:22:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
312[28/12/2014, 10:23:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is also why you so often get the whole "Hey! It's only a few bad eggs saying things like that!" bit, then look at their timeline and see nothing but things like that
313[28/12/2014, 10:23:03 AM] Athena Hollow: Of course, this only works in THEIR personal perception, not the world's, and they're lost because of it.
314[28/12/2014, 10:23:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: again, if they were capable of introspection, they'd be long gone
315[28/12/2014, 10:23:22 AM] Athena Hollow: The world doesn't operate in chan-world.
316[28/12/2014, 10:23:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: the whole "personal history" concept is totally alien to them
317[28/12/2014, 10:23:28 AM] Ian Cheong: They need to try harder at being human. You can't make people forget what you did or said to them.
318[28/12/2014, 10:23:32 AM] Faruk Ates: This is also something I've talked about in this chat room before it had a lot of people in it
319[28/12/2014, 10:23:37 AM] Faruk Ates: These people live in their games
320[28/12/2014, 10:23:38 AM] Faruk Ates: BUT
321[28/12/2014, 10:23:45 AM] Faruk Ates: games are a very poor representation of humans
322[28/12/2014, 10:23:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh definitely
323[28/12/2014, 10:23:55 AM] Athena Hollow: hell, humans are poor representation of humans lol
324[28/12/2014, 10:23:56 AM] Faruk Ates: the writing in games rarely lets characters make human mistakes
325[28/12/2014, 10:24:12 AM] Ian Cheong: I wonder though.
326[28/12/2014, 10:24:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: again though, the whole game thing is a fiction
327[28/12/2014, 10:24:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Is this what humans are destined to become?
328[28/12/2014, 10:24:20 AM] Ian Cheong: Sociopathic and uncaring.
329[28/12/2014, 10:24:21 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: that's why their references are all so flawed and dated
330[28/12/2014, 10:24:21 AM] Faruk Ates: the writing in games rarely lets characters have proper human emotions
331[28/12/2014, 10:24:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: i don't think so ian
332[28/12/2014, 10:24:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: because if we do, then we'll kill ourselves off
333[28/12/2014, 10:24:39 AM] Faruk Ates: the writing in games rarely lets characters mess up and apologize for it and resolve conflicts
334[28/12/2014, 10:24:50 AM] Faruk Ates: the writing in games is also just really sloppy and poor
335[28/12/2014, 10:25:03 AM] Faruk Ates: it's just so sad sometimes
336[28/12/2014, 10:25:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: well, for a long time, it was seen as secondary to graphics and/or mechanics
337[28/12/2014, 10:25:14 AM] Ian Cheong: I guess not, because we (that is us, in this group) stand as a testament to the empathy that exists in humanity.
338[28/12/2014, 10:25:16 AM] Faruk Ates: this medium is AMAZING for telling powerful stories of human interactions
339[28/12/2014, 10:25:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: very few people realize that story is just as much a mechanic as your combat system
340[28/12/2014, 10:25:37 AM] Faruk Ates: it's THE best way of putting you as a person in another person's shoes and have them walk five miles
341[28/12/2014, 10:25:41 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I still wish more people would play Siren
342[28/12/2014, 10:25:42 AM] Faruk Ates: and yet
343[28/12/2014, 10:25:50 AM] Faruk Ates: so few games bother doing so
344[28/12/2014, 10:26:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: that sucker is the BEST at conveying personality through gameplay
345[28/12/2014, 10:26:25 AM] Faruk Ates: Ian: "Is this what humans are destined to become? Sociopathic and uncaring."  ← No, I don't think so
346[28/12/2014, 10:26:29 AM] David Gallant: SGG - you mean the survival horror game from PS2/PS3?
347[28/12/2014, 10:26:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i'm gonna head out to dinner
348[28/12/2014, 10:26:37 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: granted, it's also a 20 hour stealth/horror game, so, I'm asking a lot
349[28/12/2014, 10:26:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: see you all tomorrow
350[28/12/2014, 10:26:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: try not to let the world burn down :p
351[28/12/2014, 10:26:43 AM] Faruk Ates: If anything, people are becoming better all the time
352[28/12/2014, 10:26:43 AM] Ian Cheong: See you Chris.
353[28/12/2014, 10:26:44 AM] Dan Olson: Later Chris
354[28/12/2014, 10:26:45 AM] Faruk Ates: See ya Chris!
355[28/12/2014, 10:26:47 AM] David Gallant: Take care, Chris.
356[28/12/2014, 10:26:49 AM] Ian Cheong: It was good chatting.
357[28/12/2014, 10:27:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and yes... except don't say "survival" when you aren't talking early RE games.
358[28/12/2014, 10:27:04 AM] Faruk Ates: Ian: look at the younger generation today
359[28/12/2014, 10:27:17 AM] Ian Cheong: faruk: True. Tumblr comes to mind.
360[28/12/2014, 10:27:21 AM] Ian Cheong: Lots of empathetic folks on there.
361[28/12/2014, 10:27:28 AM] Ian Cheong: Well, dismissing the call out culture bullshit.
362[28/12/2014, 10:27:29 AM] Faruk Ates: they examine and self-examine SO MUCH MORE than I did their age
363[28/12/2014, 10:27:53 AM] Faruk Ates: and I was ahead of the curve for my generation (or at least in my regional vicinity of high schoolers)
364[28/12/2014, 10:28:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: kind of a pet peeve. RE called itself that because it had Robinson's Requiem style tense inventory management
365[28/12/2014, 10:28:18 AM] Faruk Ates: (but, since I'm Dutch, I think we were ahead of the curve overall a bit ;))
366[28/12/2014, 10:28:26 AM] Ian Cheong: hah
367[28/12/2014, 10:29:32 AM] Faruk Ates: The Netherlands was the first country to legalize same-sex marriage, one of the first to be sex-positive about sex workers, and one of the first (and still only) to understand that regulation and legalization of weed was a good thing. #PROUD
368[28/12/2014, 10:29:54 AM] Faruk Ates: We also were awful throughout history, but hey, we _mostly_ stopped that
369[28/12/2014, 10:30:09 AM] Faruk Ates: And now we're changing our racist Black Peter tradition
370[28/12/2014, 10:30:48 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but anyway as I was saying, Siren does a really great job of communicating everyone's personality by way of the actions you have to take when playing as them, mostly just via solid level design
371[28/12/2014, 10:31:17 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/AnnieKNK/status/549029539608035328
372[28/12/2014, 10:31:19 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: which is the sort of gameplay/storytelling marriage I love to death
373[28/12/2014, 10:31:20 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHHAHAHA
374[28/12/2014, 10:31:35 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Shadow of the Collosus kinda manages too
375[28/12/2014, 10:31:40 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and Super Metroid
376[28/12/2014, 10:31:41 AM] Athena Hollow: "STOP TELLING US NAZIS ARE BAD!"
377[28/12/2014, 10:31:46 AM] Remy: So I was curious, but I don't want to randomly change the topic ( I do that way too much) but this made me wanna ask... what was the first game y'all ever played that allowed same-sex/non-hetero marriage?
378[28/12/2014, 10:31:48 AM] Ian Cheong: awwwww hell yeah this is great.
379[28/12/2014, 10:31:52 AM] Remy: or relationships, not even marriage per se
380[28/12/2014, 10:31:52 AM] Ian Cheong: they're turning on milo
381[28/12/2014, 10:31:57 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: come to think of it, all the best stories come in games with basically no dialog
382[28/12/2014, 10:32:08 AM] Athena Hollow: the sims 2 >_>
383[28/12/2014, 10:32:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: The Sims?
384[28/12/2014, 10:32:15 AM] Remy: I think the first one I played was Temple of Elemental Evil on PC, but a few years later the XBOX came out and they released Fable
385[28/12/2014, 10:32:32 AM] Athena Hollow: yeah it was either sims 1 or 2 dont remember which
386[28/12/2014, 10:32:36 AM] Remy: I've never owned an xbox but I begged my friend to let me borrow his system so I could play
387[28/12/2014, 10:32:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I can't think of a lot of non-Sims games where it even comes up, really.
388[28/12/2014, 10:32:57 AM] Athena Hollow: not until bioware at least
389[28/12/2014, 10:33:00 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: The Sims, sandbox-y RPGs
390[28/12/2014, 10:33:10 AM] Remy: omg somewhere in Texas is a straight dude with an old xbox with a save file of a Hero who has saved the world and banged a questionably large number of digital men
391[28/12/2014, 10:33:14 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
392[28/12/2014, 10:33:46 AM] Remy: It's like the boy scouts say, always leave an area better than how you found it
393[28/12/2014, 10:35:42 AM] Ian Cheong: so hey anyone find it ironic that after all this bullshit about calling me a neo-nazi, their very own fredrick brennan comes out as a white nationalist and they all jump to defend him
394[28/12/2014, 10:35:44 AM] Athena Hollow: well, foxigon leaving gg lasted, what? a few hours? http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qkvh6/foxigon_is_asking_for_help_on_a_project_anyone/word
395[28/12/2014, 10:35:53 AM] Athena Hollow: of course they do.
396[28/12/2014, 10:36:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: No, because I have basic pattern recognition skills
397[28/12/2014, 10:36:10 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
398[28/12/2014, 10:36:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: if a GGer accuses you of anything negative, that accusation actually applies to that GGer.
399[28/12/2014, 10:36:42 AM] Remy: lol
400[28/12/2014, 10:36:44 AM] Remy: so true
401[28/12/2014, 10:36:52 AM] Remy: lol seriously Foxigon
402[28/12/2014, 10:36:53 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hence my absolute horror that time a bunch of them were "worrying" about "SJWs making a martyr of someoen"
403[28/12/2014, 10:36:56 AM] Remy: no dedication
404[28/12/2014, 10:38:10 AM] Quinnae: Oh my gods, this guy will not stop https://twitter.com/locke742/status/549030999821398016
405[28/12/2014, 10:38:18 AM] Faruk Ates: I see this one a lot: "SJWs are infighting!"  No, we're just having a discussion about feminism where some of us disagree with others.
406[28/12/2014, 10:39:01 AM] Remy: You know what would just put the best cherry on top of this GamerGate cake?
407[28/12/2014, 10:39:08 AM] David Gallant: ... which happens a lot, because we're not a fucking hivemind.
408[28/12/2014, 10:39:09 AM] Remy: I wanna see Last Week Tonight dedicate an entire episode to it.
409[28/12/2014, 10:39:09 AM] Athena Hollow: that person is fucking dumb Katherine.
410[28/12/2014, 10:39:22 AM] Remy: I mean, really. The neo-nazi conspiracies, the ridiculousness of it all
411[28/12/2014, 10:39:28 AM] Remy: It needs to be laughed at by professionals
412[28/12/2014, 10:39:29 AM] Athena Hollow: "YOUR PEOPLE ARE ATTACKING ME BECAUSE I SAID A DUMB THING IN YOUR STATUS ATTACKING YOU FIRST!"
413[28/12/2014, 10:39:46 AM] Faruk Ates: John Oliver is doing a really good job with LWT
414[28/12/2014, 10:39:48 AM] Athena Hollow: instead of just goddamn admitting he fucked up and apologizing.
415[28/12/2014, 10:39:50 AM] Remy: Colbert did a nice little interview and all but
416[28/12/2014, 10:39:52 AM] Athena Hollow: is it really that fucking hard to do???
417[28/12/2014, 10:40:08 AM] Remy: I need someone to dive into GamerGate head first and then jump out and just skewer them
418[28/12/2014, 10:40:12 AM] Athena Hollow: yes.
419[28/12/2014, 10:40:23 AM] David Gallant: Been there. Tried that. Got hurt.
420[28/12/2014, 10:40:36 AM] Remy: They have been lighting up the "stranger than fiction" button for so damn long it doesn't even register to me anymore. Poe's law means nothing to me now
421[28/12/2014, 10:40:41 AM] Remy: Nothing is true. Everything is permitted
422[28/12/2014, 10:40:51 AM] Randi Harper: oh my god
423[28/12/2014, 10:40:51 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: "I wanna see Last Week Tonight dedicate an entire episode to it."
424[28/12/2014, 10:40:53 AM] Randi Harper: i trolled trade chat
425[28/12/2014, 10:40:58 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: what's funny is, last I checked, they do too
426[28/12/2014, 10:41:01 AM] Randi Harper: with /2 "it's about ethics in games journalism" - literally all i said, no context
427[28/12/2014, 10:41:09 AM] Remy: XD
428[28/12/2014, 10:41:15 AM] Randi Harper: the conversation from there:
429[28/12/2014, 10:41:18 AM] Randi Harper: wat r ethics
430[28/12/2014, 10:41:20 AM] Remy: at this point "ethics" is all you need to say
431[28/12/2014, 10:41:21 AM] Randi Harper: how r ethics formed
432[28/12/2014, 10:41:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: because surely, John Oliver isn't some corrupt SJW who will tell the REAL story
433[28/12/2014, 10:41:29 AM] Randi Harper: explain/debate ethics
434[28/12/2014, 10:41:45 AM] Randi Harper: ethics: when you choose not to rape someone because, well... it's the right thing to do.
435[28/12/2014, 10:41:48 AM] Remy: Your friend buys you both sodas and then trips on the way back to you, spilling both sodas over both of your shoes. You just roll your eyes at her and say "Nice ethics, bro"
436[28/12/2014, 10:42:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but then on the other hand
437[28/12/2014, 10:42:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://secretgamergirl.tumblr.com/post/106312136150/a-few-misconceptions-about-gamergate
438[28/12/2014, 10:42:10 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
439[28/12/2014, 10:42:18 AM] Ian Cheong: im heading out
440[28/12/2014, 10:42:22 AM] Faruk Ates: John Oliver is one of the most SJW-like people in mainstream media
441[28/12/2014, 10:42:22 AM] Ian Cheong: ill catch you folks later.
442[28/12/2014, 10:42:26 AM] Faruk Ates: cya Ian!
443[28/12/2014, 10:42:29 AM] Quinnae: See you, Ian!
444[28/12/2014, 10:42:56 AM] Remy: At first I wasn't excited about another tv show with a white dude but I'll make room for Jon Oliver
445[28/12/2014, 10:43:02 AM] Faruk Ates: BTW, Athena: that's another thing that games never show and thus never teach their players
446[28/12/2014, 10:43:04 AM] Faruk Ates: apologizing
447[28/12/2014, 10:43:05 AM] Remy: I can't remember if it's Jon or John
448[28/12/2014, 10:43:45 AM] Faruk Ates: Count the number of times a game's protagonist 1. Makes a mistake. 2. Owns up to it (instead of making excuses). 3. Apologizes.
449[28/12/2014, 10:43:52 AM] Athena Hollow: These children need some Sesame Street & Mr Rogers in their lives.
450[28/12/2014, 10:43:58 AM] Randi Harper: ugh
451[28/12/2014, 10:44:01 AM] David Gallant: Forreal
452[28/12/2014, 10:44:04 AM] Randi Harper: so, i feel like such a jerk right now
453[28/12/2014, 10:44:09 AM] Faruk Ates: how come Randi?
454[28/12/2014, 10:44:11 AM] David Gallant: What happened, Randi?
455[28/12/2014, 10:44:33 AM] Randi Harper: because all these randos added me on facebook after all this stuff happened. and they are good people. but they keep messaging me and i just want to throw my phone when i get messages from people that i don't really know.
456[28/12/2014, 10:44:42 AM] Randi Harper: and i'm not really sure how to tell them to go away.
457[28/12/2014, 10:44:51 AM] Athena Hollow: do what I did and do a friends cull
458[28/12/2014, 10:45:01 AM] Athena Hollow: just say you're having to lock down
459[28/12/2014, 10:45:05 AM] Randi Harper: i have reasons outside of gamergate to not do that.
460[28/12/2014, 10:45:06 AM] Remy: ^ this is why I have tried to be so careful not to swarm and crowd all y'all while I express my admiration and shit
461[28/12/2014, 10:45:17 AM] Remy: I don't wanna cross the line from "fan" to "rude/stalker"
462[28/12/2014, 10:45:23 AM] Faruk Ates: Randi: any reason you keep your FB public and not private?
463[28/12/2014, 10:45:35 AM] Randi Harper: i have had jobs in the past where my bonus was directly tied to my klout score.
464[28/12/2014, 10:45:39 AM] Athena Hollow: .....
465[28/12/2014, 10:45:41 AM] Randi Harper: i'm a public person.
466[28/12/2014, 10:45:43 AM] Randi Harper: have been for a long time.
467[28/12/2014, 10:45:48 AM] Faruk Ates: mkay
468[28/12/2014, 10:45:52 AM] Remy: And most of y'all are "celebrities" against your will? So  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm already an asshole by reaching out to y'all without an introduction first anyway
469[28/12/2014, 10:45:55 AM] Randi Harper: i was a technical evangelist before.
470[28/12/2014, 10:46:02 AM] Faruk Ates: I never used FB for public things; it's my private social network since it's only friends and family
471[28/12/2014, 10:46:06 AM] Randi Harper: Stephen: not me, not exactly. for this, yes. maybe.
472[28/12/2014, 10:46:09 AM] Randi Harper: i knew what i was doing.
473[28/12/2014, 10:46:10 AM] Athena Hollow: I think that's why I have an fb page and a profile
474[28/12/2014, 10:46:22 AM] Randi Harper: it used to be my job to network
475[28/12/2014, 10:46:26 AM] Athena Hollow: so that i can keep em separated (and tie my klout to my page ;) )
476[28/12/2014, 10:46:42 AM] Faruk Ates: I don't really "get" the use of FB for something public, personally; I own business accounts on FB but they do little more than namesquat
477[28/12/2014, 10:46:47 AM] Remy: Randi: No I wasn't trying to imply that about you. Some of the folks in here have established careers in the public eye. But a lot of the folks here were just trying to do their thing
478[28/12/2014, 10:46:50 AM] Randi Harper: ah.
479[28/12/2014, 10:46:52 AM] Remy: Sorry ^_^"
480[28/12/2014, 10:47:04 AM] Remy: I communicate myself poorly
481[28/12/2014, 10:47:13 AM] Athena Hollow: I've even got 2 modeling pages: one all ages cosplay, one porn stuff LOL
482[28/12/2014, 10:47:16 AM] Randi Harper: faruk: it used to be my job to be approachable, on a level from engineering to CXOs
483[28/12/2014, 10:47:21 AM] Faruk Ates: Anyway, Randi: are they sending messages or posting on your wall?
484[28/12/2014, 10:47:31 AM] Randi Harper: having a public facebook presence was just expected.
485[28/12/2014, 10:47:31 AM] Faruk Ates: Yeah, that makes total sense
486[28/12/2014, 10:47:36 AM] Randi Harper: sending messages.
487[28/12/2014, 10:47:38 AM] Faruk Ates: If you're a tech evangelist? Absolutely.
488[28/12/2014, 10:47:45 AM] Faruk Ates: (or were, previously)
489[28/12/2014, 10:47:55 AM] Randi Harper: my usual approach when i'm busy - which is TERRIBLE, i realize - is to just ignore it
490[28/12/2014, 10:47:59 AM] Randi Harper: and eventually respond when I've got more time
491[28/12/2014, 10:48:05 AM] Randi Harper: but a few of these folks are messaging me every single night
492[28/12/2014, 10:48:12 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh ww
493[28/12/2014, 10:48:15 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: wow, even
494[28/12/2014, 10:48:23 AM] Faruk Ates: There's no way to set different priority levels between people you know (= connected to) and people you don't know sending messages, right?
495[28/12/2014, 10:48:36 AM] Randi Harper: yeah. i'm not sure how to break it to them that i am not down for making a highly personal friendship with them.
496[28/12/2014, 10:48:42 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: some GGer reblogged this thing I tossed up last night and added like 50 links to how various things "really started"
497[28/12/2014, 10:48:53 AM] David Gallant: UGH
498[28/12/2014, 10:48:55 AM] Faruk Ates: ugh
499[28/12/2014, 10:49:00 AM] Randi Harper: ew.
500[28/12/2014, 10:49:34 AM] Faruk Ates: hey, sorry to be unrelated to everything for a second, but: how is Wasteland 2? Has anyone played it, and if so, is it worth buying?  (it's currently 25% off on Steam)
501[28/12/2014, 10:49:47 AM] Remy: It's totally fun
502[28/12/2014, 10:49:54 AM] Remy: I haven't finished it but that's more due to scheduling than fun factor
503[28/12/2014, 10:50:03 AM] Remy: Do you like turn based tactics?
504[28/12/2014, 10:50:26 AM] Faruk Ates: sometimes
505[28/12/2014, 10:50:35 AM] Faruk Ates: I love Jagged Alliance 2 and the new XCOM
506[28/12/2014, 10:50:51 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and not the original X-Com?
507[28/12/2014, 10:51:03 AM] Faruk Ates: gameplay was too frustrating by the time I played it
508[28/12/2014, 10:51:07 AM] Faruk Ates: I had higher standards
509[28/12/2014, 10:51:22 AM] Remy: It's harder to break into the "classics" if you didn't get introduced to them first
510[28/12/2014, 10:51:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Oh just because the difficulty selection is bugged the hell out
511[28/12/2014, 10:51:37 AM] Remy: And do not bother with The Bureau: XCOM Declassified
512[28/12/2014, 10:51:50 AM] Remy: The only XCOM game to spontaneously decide that women can't be in combat I guess
513[28/12/2014, 10:52:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: X-Com is pretty sink or swim, but when it clicks it's pretty great
514[28/12/2014, 10:52:03 AM] Remy: And also suddenly forget how to tell a story that doesn't suck
515[28/12/2014, 10:52:16 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: that said, I tend to go through every save slot every round of combat
516[28/12/2014, 10:52:21 AM] Remy: XD
517[28/12/2014, 10:52:38 AM] Remy: SGG if you're looking for that kind of experience maybe try out Xenonauts?
518[28/12/2014, 10:52:44 AM] Remy: Spiritual successor to XCOM on Steam
519[28/12/2014, 10:53:09 AM] Dan Olson: My XCOM Psychic Canadian Girl Squad is the best
520[28/12/2014, 10:53:16 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's a lot of spiritual successors to X-Com on steam, most of which don't work for me for some reason.
521[28/12/2014, 10:53:20 AM] Dan Olson: Had to go through a LOT of recruits
522[28/12/2014, 10:53:30 AM] Remy: lol
523[28/12/2014, 10:53:49 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I don't mean I dislike them, I mean, why do all these X-Com clones crash on their title screens?
524[28/12/2014, 10:54:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: and then of course there's Rebelstar- the semi-obscure GBA game by the original X-Com devs which is, essentially, the tutorial X-Com always needed
525[28/12/2014, 10:58:57 AM] Rob: Howdy, folks
526[28/12/2014, 10:59:24 AM] Athena Hollow: howdy rob
527[28/12/2014, 10:59:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hi
528[28/12/2014, 10:59:31 AM] David Gallant: Hey Rob.
529[28/12/2014, 10:59:32 AM] Quinnae: Dan, that Psychic Canadian Girl squad sounds amazing.
530[28/12/2014, 10:59:54 AM] Rob: I'm full in my tummy-tum-tum-tum
531[28/12/2014, 11:00:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
532[28/12/2014, 11:00:34 AM] Dan Olson: It was, though I think I lost that save file
533[28/12/2014, 11:00:35 AM] Faruk Ates: Stephen: yeah, XCOM Declassified did not seem good at all, in thee end
534[28/12/2014, 11:01:15 AM] Faruk Ates: Dan: did you deliberately put all non-Canadian, non-female recruits in the line of danger?
535[28/12/2014, 11:01:21 AM] Faruk Ates: hey Rob
536[28/12/2014, 11:01:25 AM] Rob: Ahoy
537[28/12/2014, 11:01:42 AM] Faruk Ates: ANYHOO: thanks for the tip, it sounds like Wasteland 2 may be worth the money then?
538[28/12/2014, 11:01:48 AM] Remy: I would have loved to see XCOM Declassified done properly. The adaptation of teamwork and strategy into a real-time shooter (admittedly by borrowing almost entirely from Mass Effect) was an amazing experience. But it was muted by the terrible dialogue
539[28/12/2014, 11:01:57 AM] Dan Olson: No, I just delayed the base assault indefinitely while recruiting and recruiting and recruiting
540[28/12/2014, 11:02:44 AM] Dan Olson: recruit 50, dismiss all but 0-2,
541[28/12/2014, 11:02:52 AM] Faruk Ates: wow
542[28/12/2014, 11:03:01 AM] Dan Olson: then I just save-scummed the psychic test until I got the results I wanted.
543[28/12/2014, 11:03:05 AM] Faruk Ates: :)
544[28/12/2014, 11:03:23 AM] Faruk Ates: oh geeze, looks like everything on my Steam wish list is for sale
545[28/12/2014, 11:03:46 AM] Athena Hollow: haha most of mine is too
546[28/12/2014, 11:04:16 AM] Athena Hollow: but I'm waiting to see if FFVIII & Hatoful Boyfriend come down closer to 50% >_>
547[28/12/2014, 11:04:21 AM] Faruk Ates: I still need to finish Divinity: Original Sin
548[28/12/2014, 11:04:52 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549038091743551488
549[28/12/2014, 11:05:36 AM] Faruk Ates: Stephen: how would you compare Wasteland 2 to Jagged Alliance 2, if you played the latter?
550[28/12/2014, 11:06:16 AM] Remy: Let me think it's been a month or so since I've played either
551[28/12/2014, 11:06:45 AM] Remy: JA isn't going to focus so much on your character sheet
552[28/12/2014, 11:06:52 AM] Quinnae: Sarah: the response to that is so unsurprising.
553[28/12/2014, 11:06:59 AM] Remy: Wasteland 2 follows more along Fallout's path
554[28/12/2014, 11:07:03 AM] Faruk Ates: ok
555[28/12/2014, 11:07:11 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i know right katherine
556[28/12/2014, 11:07:17 AM] Faruk Ates: that sounds good actually, I'd not have minded more character focus in JA2
557[28/12/2014, 11:07:25 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "yes hes' advertising to nazis, what's wrong with that? he just wants visitors to his site!"
558[28/12/2014, 11:07:35 AM] Remy: And Wasteland 2 is going to have more in0depth dialogue and character development IMO
559[28/12/2014, 11:07:57 AM] Remy: It starts off acting all macho and stuff but honestly the plot so far seems pretty good and characters are memorable
560[28/12/2014, 11:08:42 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: "what he's doing is legal, how could you possibly object?!"
561[28/12/2014, 11:08:58 AM] Faruk Ates: OK, I will get it
562[28/12/2014, 11:09:07 AM] Faruk Ates: I'm sure I'll have time to play it sometime in 2015 ;)
563[28/12/2014, 11:09:16 AM] David Gallant: It's super hard to be surprised by any of this anymore.
564[28/12/2014, 11:09:24 AM] Faruk Ates: also getting Never Alone despite lacking a PC
565[28/12/2014, 11:09:50 AM] Faruk Ates: (I can put it on my roommate's gaming PC I'm allowed to use)
566[28/12/2014, 11:10:33 AM] Faruk Ates: thanks!
567[28/12/2014, 11:12:56 AM] Randi Harper: gamergate is just way too obsessive. https://twitter.com/lizzyf620/status/548557317583945730
568[28/12/2014, 11:13:56 AM] Athena Hollow: yep.
569[28/12/2014, 11:14:13 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what was that referring to randi? the original comment
570[28/12/2014, 11:14:19 AM] Athena Hollow: Don't blame wars in the middle east on Gamergate, but for fuck sake, if it's stuff they are doing, then goddammit, they are at fault.
571[28/12/2014, 11:14:22 AM] Rob: Too bad she didn't bother to read your earlier statements on the SJW autoblocker, or her brain would have grown three sizes that day
572[28/12/2014, 11:15:11 AM] Randi Harper: no kidding.
573[28/12/2014, 11:15:22 AM] Randi Harper: there was an article about gamergate
574[28/12/2014, 11:15:30 AM] Randi Harper: it attributed sjw autoblocker to coming out of gamergate
575[28/12/2014, 11:15:34 AM] Randi Harper: i argued with the reporter after it was released
576[28/12/2014, 11:15:40 AM] Athena Hollow: Did they ever clear that up?
577[28/12/2014, 11:15:47 AM] Rob: I saw that argument. I was kind of stunned by his response
578[28/12/2014, 11:15:48 AM] Randi Harper: it took her a while to get the retraction in. and she stuck to her guns of saying that perception was basically more important than facts.
579[28/12/2014, 11:15:52 AM] Rob: oh, her
580[28/12/2014, 11:15:59 AM] Rob: I didn't see who the author was, just saw some of the response
581[28/12/2014, 11:16:02 AM] Faruk Ates: UGH
582[28/12/2014, 11:16:12 AM] Randi Harper: like "well, you can't PROVE it wasn't gamergate" is just so fucking lazy.
583[28/12/2014, 11:16:14 AM] Randi Harper: i wrote the code.
584[28/12/2014, 11:16:18 AM] Randi Harper: literally an expert in ggautoblocker thanks
585[28/12/2014, 11:16:26 AM] Athena Hollow: lol yea it was dumb as hell.
586[28/12/2014, 11:16:33 AM] Athena Hollow: "Except... I CAN prove it, you moron"
587[28/12/2014, 11:16:52 AM] Rob: I thought you stole the code because you can't get a security clearance anywhere and also you';re a woman so obviously you stole code because man are made all things, though.
588[28/12/2014, 11:16:57 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
589[28/12/2014, 11:17:43 AM] Rob: But seriously, if you were just interested in internet 'politicking' or w/e, you saying 'YEP ITS GG TOTES MCGOTES' would be the 'smart' play given how you've spoken out repeatedly against GG, so I have no idea why someone would  refuse to take you at your word re: something like the SJW autoblocker
590[28/12/2014, 11:17:56 AM] Randi Harper: lollll
591[28/12/2014, 11:17:56 AM] Randi Harper: https://tidy.cc/NPQXKhBK
592[28/12/2014, 11:19:14 AM] Faruk Ates: ok, that is TOO FUNNY
593[28/12/2014, 11:19:39 AM] Faruk Ates: "Don't abuse the report system."  "QUICK, EVERYONE, REPORT HER FOR SAYING THIS!"
594[28/12/2014, 11:19:46 AM] Athena Hollow: .... they are too dumb to figure out how to report? LOL
595[28/12/2014, 11:20:04 AM] Athena Hollow: Note: If the original tweet is deleted, put any other tweet by the same user in the "Reported Tweet URL" section, and paste the "Further description of problem" section as-is.
596[28/12/2014, 11:20:13 AM] Athena Hollow: OH TOO BAD THEY DONT ACCEPT ARCHIVED LINKS MOTHERFUCKERS
597[28/12/2014, 11:20:19 AM] Faruk Ates: they are too young and inexperienced with things, in any case
598[28/12/2014, 11:20:22 AM] Athena Hollow: otherwise, we would have already had a ton of you guys banned forever.
599[28/12/2014, 11:20:42 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. dumb kids.
600[28/12/2014, 11:20:43 AM] Faruk Ates: nah, the archived stuff barely matters
601[28/12/2014, 11:21:04 AM] Faruk Ates: Twitter's unwilling to see harassment as harassment is the reason they haven't all had their accounts deleted
602[28/12/2014, 11:21:27 AM] Athena Hollow: oh absolutely but some things have blatantly crossed every line that SHOULD have had them blocked (as it did for others)
603[28/12/2014, 11:21:32 AM] David Gallant: Wait. "Attempting to abuse the reporting system through corruption."
604[28/12/2014, 11:21:36 AM] Athena Hollow: but since it was deleted "Whoops! no harm/no foul!"
605[28/12/2014, 11:21:37 AM] David Gallant: "THROUGH CORRUPTION"
606[28/12/2014, 11:21:51 AM] David Gallant: THEY LITERALLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT WORD MEANS ANYMORE
607[28/12/2014, 11:21:52 AM] Remy: So hey, I never heard the final results of that ad that was put out on KiA
608[28/12/2014, 11:21:56 AM] Remy: How did that go over?
609[28/12/2014, 11:22:03 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHAH it got removed
610[28/12/2014, 11:22:08 AM] Athena Hollow: and $50 refunded
611[28/12/2014, 11:22:18 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's times like this the overzealous September blocktogether list really bugs me: https://twitter.com/SLAwrites/status/548913672111005697
612[28/12/2014, 11:22:25 AM] Faruk Ates: aight I gotta go
613[28/12/2014, 11:22:30 AM] Athena Hollow: cya Faruk
614[28/12/2014, 11:22:35 AM] Faruk Ates: catch you all later. Hugs for everyone! <3
615[28/12/2014, 11:23:09 AM] David Gallant: Later!
616[28/12/2014, 11:24:01 AM] David Gallant: SGG, I don't understand the context of Samantha's tweet?
617[28/12/2014, 11:24:29 AM] Remy: lol how did it get removed?
618[28/12/2014, 11:24:58 AM] Randi Harper: god i hate vacations
619[28/12/2014, 11:25:00 AM] Randi Harper: i never get anything done
620[28/12/2014, 11:25:04 AM] Randi Harper: i haven't worn pants in 3 days
621[28/12/2014, 11:25:07 AM] Randi Harper: today i ate bacon and napped
622[28/12/2014, 11:25:07 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
623[28/12/2014, 11:25:18 AM] Athena Hollow: i've had comfy NBC jammy pants on for 2 days cuz sick
624[28/12/2014, 11:25:35 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: It needs context? That's just really amusing, and I went to hit fav and NOPE.
625[28/12/2014, 11:25:56 AM] Quinnae: I've been in PJs for the last few days myself. Not gone out much because I've really just needed to relax.
626[28/12/2014, 11:25:58 AM] David Gallant: Oh, Samantha has you blocked. Now I understand.
627[28/12/2014, 11:26:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Because like, half of all feminists have me blocked on twitter because someone set up a reall stupid auto-blocker
628[28/12/2014, 11:26:03 AM] Rob: I get sad when people make me wear pants
629[28/12/2014, 11:26:55 AM] Randi Harper: i don't know of any other autoblockers.
630[28/12/2014, 11:27:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yours is the good one
631[28/12/2014, 11:27:31 AM] David Gallant: You referring to the original BlockTogether?
632[28/12/2014, 11:27:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
633[28/12/2014, 11:27:51 AM] David Gallant: Because BlockTogether is just the framework. ggautoblocker uses it too.
634[28/12/2014, 11:28:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Whoa. this chat has been super busy today!
635[28/12/2014, 11:28:04 AM] Randi Harper: HAHAHA
636I AM THE NAPOLEON HITLER OF GAMERGOOT
637[28/12/2014, 11:28:05 AM] David Gallant: The problem was people sharing their blocklists around.
638[28/12/2014, 11:28:10 AM] Randi Harper: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qk7i1/the_antigamergate_playbook_reaxxion/cn6v7u8
639[28/12/2014, 11:28:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Back in September, someone put together a list of: "anyone who has ever used the tag, with an account created in August or later"
640[28/12/2014, 11:28:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: which is VERY STUPID.
641[28/12/2014, 11:28:21 AM] Athena Hollow: HAHHAHAHAHA
642[28/12/2014, 11:28:27 AM] David Gallant: Ugh
643[28/12/2014, 11:28:34 AM] David Gallant: Okay, I see how that would go.
644[28/12/2014, 11:28:35 AM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, that's dumb.
645[28/12/2014, 11:28:48 AM] David Gallant: Weird how I'm not covered by that list, because I tweeted on the tag a lot.
646[28/12/2014, 11:29:04 AM] David Gallant: Oh wait, "created in August or later"
647[28/12/2014, 11:29:08 AM] Athena Hollow: I never used any lists except my own til Randi's, and not for a few weeks after that at least.
648[28/12/2014, 11:29:09 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Because seriously, if nothing else, if someone were to have the account compromised and start a new one, hey, they'd be blocked, and their compromised account wouldn't.
649[28/12/2014, 11:29:16 AM] Randi Harper: ahhh
650[28/12/2014, 11:29:18 AM] Randi Harper: it's kind of stupid.
651[28/12/2014, 11:29:25 AM] Randi Harper: but honestly i usually block accounts that are <1 yr old.
652[28/12/2014, 11:29:28 AM] David Gallant: Yeah, that's a recipe for a lot of false positives.
653[28/12/2014, 11:29:35 AM] Randi Harper: i could care less about false positives.
654[28/12/2014, 11:29:44 AM] Athena Hollow: Though I did share my 'manual gg blocktogether' list. But it was all verified GGers.
655[28/12/2014, 11:29:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): That's a horrible playbook. None of us even do those things
656[28/12/2014, 11:30:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So, it looks like GGers are trying to get Milo to support the Neo-Nazi's in the group? https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549043694519980033
657[28/12/2014, 11:30:48 AM] Athena Hollow: heh yep
658[28/12/2014, 11:31:15 AM] David Gallant: This is bringing back memories of the Polygon blocklist.
659[28/12/2014, 11:31:28 AM] Athena Hollow: I still think Milo distancing himself has nothing to do with Milo being opposed to it; but rather 
660
6611) He can still spin the CP stuff in his book, NOT an association w/ Nazis
6622) He WANTS to be spurned and hated to make the last chapter best.
663[28/12/2014, 11:32:01 AM] Athena Hollow: Remember, he did put "I am not anti-Semitic" on the back of his last book lol
664[28/12/2014, 11:32:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ...
665[28/12/2014, 11:32:12 AM] Athena Hollow: the fact that he had to say that is reason enough to believe that he's pretty fucking out there
666[28/12/2014, 11:32:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
667[28/12/2014, 11:32:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: that's one of those phrases where, if you have to say it, it's never true
668[28/12/2014, 11:32:53 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
669[28/12/2014, 11:32:57 AM] Athena Hollow: "I'm not racist but.............."
670[28/12/2014, 11:33:26 AM] Rob: I'm not racist, but I really wish I had some whiskey right now
671[28/12/2014, 11:33:29 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
672[28/12/2014, 11:33:31 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: also are people all over this yet? https://gratipay.com/infinitechan/
673[28/12/2014, 11:34:02 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549045485278076928
674[28/12/2014, 11:35:26 AM] Remy: "I'm not racist, but..."
675[28/12/2014, 11:35:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm not a racist, but I hate Nascar
676[28/12/2014, 11:35:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
677[28/12/2014, 11:36:08 AM] Remy: Like, I always wanna stop them and be like
678[28/12/2014, 11:36:15 AM] Remy: "Before you continue..."
679[28/12/2014, 11:36:22 AM] Rob: :D
680[28/12/2014, 11:36:29 AM] Remy: "Did you know that 'but' is a conjunction that implies you are about to contradict your preceding statement?"
681[28/12/2014, 11:36:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "I'm not a racist but" --> "I'm about to say something racist, but please don't judge me for it"
682[28/12/2014, 11:41:00 AM] Quinnae: Ah, good times.
683[28/12/2014, 11:41:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
684[28/12/2014, 11:42:05 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: all this NYPD stuff today almost has me thinking "I can't believe the police in New York of all plays would be..." but then I remember literally everything I've ever heard about the NYPD.
685[28/12/2014, 11:42:14 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: places
686[28/12/2014, 11:42:17 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: weird typo
687[28/12/2014, 11:42:30 AM] Quinnae: As a lifelong New Yorker I can tell you it's not in the least bit surprising.
688[28/12/2014, 11:43:13 AM] Athena Hollow: sent an email to gratipay :)
689[28/12/2014, 11:45:17 AM] David Gallant: Not sure if gratipay is related to gittip; I think I heard it was?
690[28/12/2014, 11:45:59 AM] Athena Hollow: gittip is gratipay
691[28/12/2014, 11:46:31 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/srhbutts/status/549048605588615168
692[28/12/2014, 11:48:31 AM] SF: Playing TF2 with my father again is reminding me why I quit gaming.
693[28/12/2014, 11:48:32 AM] David Gallant: That's not promising. They've taken heat for enabling shitty users before.
694[28/12/2014, 11:48:40 AM] Athena Hollow: :-/
695[28/12/2014, 11:48:51 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah but this one specifically breaks their TOS so who knows.
696[28/12/2014, 11:48:59 AM] SF: Everything is a team game because everyone feels entitled to winning with no effort. Everyone's a dudebro that just types in "ayy lmao rekt u wot" pidgins.
697[28/12/2014, 11:49:07 AM] Athena Hollow: I would think they wouldn't want to get lumped in with "child porn enablers" at least LOL
698[28/12/2014, 11:49:36 AM] David Gallant: That sounds horrible, SF. Reminds me why I don't play TF2, or any multiplayer game online.
699[28/12/2014, 11:49:48 AM] David Gallant: Let's hope, Athena
700[28/12/2014, 11:51:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Did you toss along links to Dan and Simone's articles?
701[28/12/2014, 11:51:48 AM] SF: I can't find any non-narrative games that have stimulating gameplay without being competitive multiplayer either because they're all so braindead easy otherwise.
702[28/12/2014, 11:52:02 AM] Quinnae: SF, for a second I thought you were talking about GamerGate.
703[28/12/2014, 11:52:26 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Tetris?
704[28/12/2014, 11:52:59 AM] SF: I can do the perfect speed algorithms in puzzle games similar to Tetris, gets boring fast.
705[28/12/2014, 11:53:26 AM] Dan Olson: If this movie were a US production Lotte Köhler would have been merged into a composite character with Heinrich Blücher.
706[28/12/2014, 11:53:28 AM] Athena Hollow: I linked Dan's & the daily dot one
707[28/12/2014, 11:53:32 AM] Athena Hollow: they are the ones I had links to on hand
708[28/12/2014, 11:53:47 AM] Quinnae: Dan, you and I need to talk about this movie.
709[28/12/2014, 11:54:43 AM] Dan Olson: I'm still barely half way through. They're just prepping her manuscript for publication.
710[28/12/2014, 11:55:04 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/vivian_games/status/549050677285367808
711heh.
712[28/12/2014, 11:55:23 AM] David Gallant: burn
713[28/12/2014, 11:55:40 AM] David Gallant: Movie?
714[28/12/2014, 11:56:16 AM] Dan Olson: Hannah Arendt
715[28/12/2014, 11:56:24 AM] Dan Olson: it's a biopic about Hannah Arendt
716[28/12/2014, 11:56:42 AM] David Gallant: Oh cool.
717[28/12/2014, 11:56:45 AM] Quinnae: I love that movie.
718[28/12/2014, 11:57:12 AM] Quinnae: I'm an Arendt nerd, so I'm biased, but... to me it was a rather good piece of filmmaking.
719[28/12/2014, 11:57:27 AM] Dan Olson: It's a very good piece of film making
720[28/12/2014, 11:58:14 AM] Dan Olson: especially since it's a conflict of ideas and philosophies
721[28/12/2014, 11:58:51 AM] Dan Olson: there's very little "personal demons" sub plot
722[28/12/2014, 11:59:09 AM] Dan Olson: which would be main plot in any American biopic
723[28/12/2014, 11:59:48 AM] Dan Olson: see also every "here's how I kicked heroin (while writing a hit album)" biopic
724[28/12/2014, 12:00:20 PM] Dan Olson: or "here's how I kicked heroin (while inventing a world changing device)"
725[28/12/2014, 12:00:28 PM] Athena Hollow: this is the best: https://twitter.com/WTFKAREEM/status/549037690713563137
726[28/12/2014, 12:02:02 PM] Quinnae: Dan, I agree, that's part of why I like it. It manages to be engaging without resorting to all the usual tropes, and its handling of what would otherwise be a subject of prurient interest (the affair with Heidegger) is actually quite tasteful and substantive.
727[28/12/2014, 12:02:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: When I was your age, fedoras were a force fot good. Michael Jackson through them at mobsters and zombies.
728[28/12/2014, 12:02:40 PM] Rob: I can't wear my fucking fedora any more because of these assholes :C
729[28/12/2014, 12:02:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: threw
730[28/12/2014, 12:03:21 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: brain, why you making me type all these words that are close to the words I mean to type today? Is this about the 3 hours sleep per night for 4 months?
731[28/12/2014, 12:06:46 PM] Athena Hollow: Oh damn! i missed that they banned kiwikku
732[28/12/2014, 12:06:56 PM] Athena Hollow: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2q0412/a_message_to_gamergate/cn2186s
733[28/12/2014, 12:06:59 PM] Dan Olson: also this film strikes deep right now, due to proximal issues
734[28/12/2014, 12:07:25 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: who is kiwikku again
735[28/12/2014, 12:07:31 PM] Athena Hollow: bitcoin
736[28/12/2014, 12:07:32 PM] Dan Olson: adorable KiAer
737[28/12/2014, 12:07:40 PM] Athena Hollow: claimed he was a PoC but was white lol
738[28/12/2014, 12:07:45 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): KIWIKKU! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
739[28/12/2014, 12:07:48 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I WILL AVENGE YOU
740[28/12/2014, 12:07:50 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
741[28/12/2014, 12:08:11 PM] Athena Hollow: His threads were the best. He was the little ethics that could.
742[28/12/2014, 12:08:12 PM] David Gallant: Wait, kiwikku is white but pretended to be a PoC?
743[28/12/2014, 12:08:31 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah, he claimed he was a PoC, but then someone found some pics he posted of a tattoo he had and he's so totally white lol
744[28/12/2014, 12:09:02 PM] Athena Hollow: so he backed off that thing entirely lol
745[28/12/2014, 12:09:18 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah, man that dude was a special snowflake.
746[28/12/2014, 12:10:00 PM] Dan Olson: He was KiA's dumb, misplaced heart, trying desperately to steer KiA towards his child's understanding of ethics.
747[28/12/2014, 12:10:34 PM] Athena Hollow: I still don't know if he was just a really good troll or serious
748[28/12/2014, 12:10:42 PM] David Gallant: OH HE WAS THAT ONE
749[28/12/2014, 12:10:43 PM] Athena Hollow: but either way, it was good popcorn reading.
750[28/12/2014, 12:10:46 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549054717574119425
751[28/12/2014, 12:10:50 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Please RT.
752[28/12/2014, 12:10:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :(
753[28/12/2014, 12:10:52 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
754[28/12/2014, 12:12:10 PM] Randi Harper: jezebel has a dick pic post
755[28/12/2014, 12:12:13 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yesssss another "who have you lost" thread https://8chan.co/gamergate/res/143795.html
756[28/12/2014, 12:12:16 PM] Randi Harper: plot twist: it's disney
757[28/12/2014, 12:12:34 PM] David Gallant: Heya Alex
758[28/12/2014, 12:12:34 PM] Dan Olson: linklinklinklink
759[28/12/2014, 12:12:36 PM] Dan Olson: Randi
760[28/12/2014, 12:12:37 PM] Dan Olson: link
761[28/12/2014, 12:12:46 PM] Randi Harper: looking
762[28/12/2014, 12:12:49 PM] Randi Harper: i was viewing the peen on my phone
763[28/12/2014, 12:13:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Alex: the tears sustain me from these.
764[28/12/2014, 12:13:16 PM] Randi Harper: found it
765[28/12/2014, 12:13:20 PM] Randi Harper: http://jezebel.com/disney-dudes-dicks-what-your-favorite-princes-look-lik-1621694437
766[28/12/2014, 12:13:22 PM] Randi Harper: NSFW
767[28/12/2014, 12:13:24 PM] Randi Harper: because cartoon peen
768[28/12/2014, 12:13:34 PM] Athena Hollow: OMG YES! hahahah
769[28/12/2014, 12:13:39 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAHA IT'S SO SPARKLY
770[28/12/2014, 12:13:46 PM] Randi Harper: I KNOW
771[28/12/2014, 12:13:48 PM] Randi Harper: LOOK AT PRINCE ADAM
772[28/12/2014, 12:13:52 PM] Randi Harper: he has sparkledick
773[28/12/2014, 12:14:24 PM] Athena Hollow: HAHAAHHAH
774[28/12/2014, 12:14:41 PM] Randi Harper: the descriptions are awesome
775[28/12/2014, 12:14:44 PM] David Gallant: This post is from August... I've definitely seen these dicks before.
776[28/12/2014, 12:14:57 PM] Randi Harper: i have no idea why it just now showed up on my facebook
777[28/12/2014, 12:15:00 PM] Randi Harper: but i approve of this post.
778[28/12/2014, 12:15:20 PM] Athena Hollow: From "LOST PEOPLE CUZ GG" thread:
779
780"She was a pretty chill chick until her friends made her make a tumblr. Then she read Homestuck.
781It was a painful loss indeed."
782[28/12/2014, 12:15:22 PM] Athena Hollow: ahhjdhfsadfjkldfjaskljasf
783[28/12/2014, 12:15:53 PM] David Gallant: It's a lot of good dick.
784[28/12/2014, 12:15:57 PM] Dan Olson: hahaha, Aladdin "grower, not show-er"
785[28/12/2014, 12:16:05 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
786[28/12/2014, 12:16:08 PM] Dan Olson: John Smith "too much dick"
787[28/12/2014, 12:17:30 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
788[28/12/2014, 12:17:38 PM] Athena Hollow: Nope, gg isn't racist:
789
790"Just the one friend who ran a Pokemon themed tumblr. She was a really kind and gentle person and she honestly kept a rather neutral stance on GG.
791
792It was when the Ferguson stuff happened was when we split apart. She ignored all the evidence and all the facts and insisted that Darren Wilson was a devil and that Michael Brown was a good boy who dindu nuffin."
793[28/12/2014, 12:18:02 PM] David Gallant: David Gallant sighs
794[28/12/2014, 12:18:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: flipped the names there
795[28/12/2014, 12:18:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: or at least I certainly hope you did
796[28/12/2014, 12:19:29 PM] Athena Hollow: Huh?
797
798No no, they were saying they lost a friend that "insisted that Darren Wilson was a devil and that Michael Brown was a good boy who dindu nuffin"
799[28/12/2014, 12:19:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
800[28/12/2014, 12:19:47 PM] Randi Harper: how do i tell a guy that wants a relationship that he has cats and plays a pally and i could basically never do anything other than FWB with someone like that.
801[28/12/2014, 12:19:54 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
802[28/12/2014, 12:20:19 PM] Athena Hollow: Um. That he's FWB type and you can't see it working out in the long run
803[28/12/2014, 12:20:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Shout "cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria!"
804[28/12/2014, 12:20:24 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
805[28/12/2014, 12:20:36 PM] Athena Hollow: But that some fuzzy bumping isn't out of the question
806[28/12/2014, 12:20:45 PM] Randi Harper: he's complained about women only wanting him for sex in the past.
807[28/12/2014, 12:20:49 PM] Athena Hollow: welp
808[28/12/2014, 12:20:53 PM] Athena Hollow: um.
809[28/12/2014, 12:21:00 PM] Athena Hollow: Then skip that first part? lol
810[28/12/2014, 12:21:11 PM] Randi Harper: maybe he should ditch the cats and play a class that doesn't almost ALWAYS end up being some needy guy irl
811[28/12/2014, 12:21:15 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
812[28/12/2014, 12:21:21 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Also we all know cat people and dog people don't mix, but what's wrong with paladins?
813[28/12/2014, 12:21:35 PM] David Gallant: Ditch the cats? Blasphemy
814[28/12/2014, 12:21:35 PM] Athena Hollow: Definitely almost; hubby plays a pally but luckily isn't a needy guy haha
815[28/12/2014, 12:21:38 PM] Randi Harper: i have never met a male paladin that didn't have severe issues with being high maintenance.
816[28/12/2014, 12:21:54 PM] Athena Hollow: Mine asks for a bj once in a while XD
817[28/12/2014, 12:21:58 PM] Randi Harper: high maint isn't necessarily a bad thing, just doesn't work with me.
818[28/12/2014, 12:22:06 PM] Randi Harper: i'm a... see you ever Friday but ignore you the rest of the week type.
819[28/12/2014, 12:22:41 PM] Randi Harper: basically the worst at relationships, ever.
820[28/12/2014, 12:22:49 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
821[28/12/2014, 12:22:54 PM] Athena Hollow: Then tell him that!
822[28/12/2014, 12:23:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl often ends up playing paladins with new groups just because so many seem to need to be shown an example of how to do it right.
823[28/12/2014, 12:23:56 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, we go w/ pally/priest combo here because it works well for us as we know the classes and literally sit next to each other on the couch to play LOL
824[28/12/2014, 12:24:02 PM] Athena Hollow: so it's easy for us to coordinate
825[28/12/2014, 12:24:09 PM] Quinnae: Quinnae Flash of Light spams SGG.
826[28/12/2014, 12:24:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but APPARENTLY you're talking WoW paladins
827[28/12/2014, 12:24:20 PM] Rob: I'm nananananananana FISHING
828[28/12/2014, 12:24:21 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL yes.
829[28/12/2014, 12:24:39 PM] Athena Hollow: Pallys in D&D are a pita. Goddamn lawfuls. Fuckin up my rogues.
830[28/12/2014, 12:24:54 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, Brad Wardell hates cats ;)
831[28/12/2014, 12:24:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: which IIRC originally had no Horde representation, so, screw those guys sure
832[28/12/2014, 12:24:59 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (sorry, lol)
833[28/12/2014, 12:25:06 PM] Rob: I've been banned from playing lawful good in my tabletop group
834[28/12/2014, 12:25:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and see, that's exactly what I'm saying right there
835[28/12/2014, 12:25:22 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah everyone plays lawful good pallys lol
836[28/12/2014, 12:25:26 PM] Athena Hollow: which is annoying as shit.
837[28/12/2014, 12:25:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: if you think paladins ruin the lives of rogues, you've never seen one played properly (or your rogues really have it coming)
838[28/12/2014, 12:25:41 PM] Athena Hollow: ESPECIALLY annoying when they break out the "exhalted deeds" book.
839[28/12/2014, 12:25:48 PM] Rob: exalted deeds <3
840[28/12/2014, 12:25:51 PM] Athena Hollow: lol I actually don't play rogues that way.
841[28/12/2014, 12:25:56 PM] Quinnae: Heyyyyy
842[28/12/2014, 12:25:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I have mixed feelings about that book
843[28/12/2014, 12:26:04 PM] Athena Hollow: I'm usually the Lara Croft of rogues in D&D games.
844[28/12/2014, 12:26:09 PM] Athena Hollow: FUCK. THAT. BOOK.
845[28/12/2014, 12:26:10 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahah
846[28/12/2014, 12:26:14 PM] Rob: VoP is so fucking hacks if you play a druid.
847[28/12/2014, 12:26:18 PM] Rob: But Druids are OP anyways
848[28/12/2014, 12:26:20 PM] Rob: fucking tier 0 class
849[28/12/2014, 12:26:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I have a HUGE problem with "these are mechanically the same as poison but only work on evil people so there's no ethical issue with using them constantly"
850[28/12/2014, 12:27:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but... I really dig the whole vow of povertry deal
851[28/12/2014, 12:27:20 PM] Rob: If you stick it on a druid or unarmed swordsage you basically murder everything
852[28/12/2014, 12:27:20 PM] Athena Hollow: VoP is awesome; VoNV SUCKS. ASS.
853[28/12/2014, 12:27:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sometimes I just don't want to collect a ridiculously huge pile of magic junk, you know?
854[28/12/2014, 12:28:26 PM] Rob: I think the most WTF character I made was a cleric/warlock combo
855[28/12/2014, 12:28:40 PM] Rob: I forgot exactly how I built it, but I got the eldritch scythe
856[28/12/2014, 12:28:47 PM] Quinnae: Just so you know, LG Paladins are awesome. This needed to be said.
857[28/12/2014, 12:28:51 PM] Rob: and so basically I was heavy melee and just bypassed all AC.
858[28/12/2014, 12:28:58 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
859[28/12/2014, 12:29:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but seriously, the proper way to be a paladin is to go all lead-by-example Dale Cooper style with it
860[28/12/2014, 12:29:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the weird fire and brimstone judgemental A-hole thing that made its way into the nerd racial memory is pretty blatantly in violation of the actual alignment restrictions
861[28/12/2014, 12:30:27 PM] Athena Hollow: Oh definitely. It's just annoying as shit lol.
862[28/12/2014, 12:30:29 PM] Rob: I typically play LN characters
863[28/12/2014, 12:30:52 PM] Rob: So I'll justify doing awful stuff all the time.
864[28/12/2014, 12:31:13 PM] Athena Hollow: My husband tends to build characters that appear to be one thing, but aren't. Like, he had one named John Barker w/ a cohort named Fammy Taye. He APPEARED to be a cleric, but he was actually a rogue bard combo LOL
865[28/12/2014, 12:31:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I was about to say the one I've been playing has never once had a disagreement with the party's rogue but oh right we don't have a rogue
866[28/12/2014, 12:31:49 PM] Athena Hollow: He tends to get GMs who love him, and players that fucking hate him hahahah
867[28/12/2014, 12:32:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: heh
868[28/12/2014, 12:32:22 PM] Rob: I made a random throwaway rogue named 'Billy' once b/c the party had split and I was the only one who could make both sessions and my PC was off doing something else.
869[28/12/2014, 12:32:39 PM] Rob: He was the most bizarrely made character I ever made. Rogue, throw anything feat, improvised weapons
870[28/12/2014, 12:32:41 PM] Rob: Super high bluff.
871[28/12/2014, 12:32:53 PM] Rob: He just threw longswords at people and pretended to be a mage at some point.
872[28/12/2014, 12:33:01 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
873[28/12/2014, 12:33:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I ran a game a while ago where like, 3 levels in, the player of the cleric told me she just really was not at all digging it, but didn't want to go bringing a new character in
874[28/12/2014, 12:33:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so I let her totally redo her stats as a ninja and said "she was secretly using a lot of wands."
875[28/12/2014, 12:33:34 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
876[28/12/2014, 12:33:44 PM] Rob: And he always introduced himself as "Billy the Alleged X", X being some crime he was accused of
877[28/12/2014, 12:33:55 PM] Rob: Because he met half the party by breaking them out of jail.
878[28/12/2014, 12:34:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's kinda sad how many people I tell that too who say "wow, my GM would never allow that sort of thing"
879[28/12/2014, 12:34:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: to
880[28/12/2014, 12:34:54 PM] Athena Hollow: My best, and most successful, characters were all hopeless by modifier standards LOL
881[28/12/2014, 12:35:05 PM] Athena Hollow: Between a -3 & a -1 total modifier XD
882[28/12/2014, 12:35:14 PM] Athena Hollow: Some fucking way, they always survived
883[28/12/2014, 12:35:17 PM] David Gallant: I'd totally allow shit like that, SGG
884[28/12/2014, 12:35:20 PM] Rob: The first character I made for one of my two college groups? I rolled 5 18s and a 16.
885[28/12/2014, 12:35:22 PM] Rob: In front of everyone.
886[28/12/2014, 12:35:27 PM] Athena Hollow: hah
887[28/12/2014, 12:35:34 PM] Randi Harper: brad wardell hates cats?
888[28/12/2014, 12:35:35 PM] Randi Harper: well
889[28/12/2014, 12:35:37 PM] Randi Harper: hitler likes dogs
890[28/12/2014, 12:35:39 PM] Athena Hollow: XD
891[28/12/2014, 12:35:41 PM] Randi Harper: everyone gets one thing right
892[28/12/2014, 12:35:53 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahahaha
893[28/12/2014, 12:36:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw9AwaJaVGU
894[28/12/2014, 12:36:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Checkmate.
895[28/12/2014, 12:37:04 PM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
896[28/12/2014, 12:37:12 PM] Athena Hollow: that was an awesome fucking cat
897[28/12/2014, 12:38:41 PM] drinternetphd: apparently I googled "how do I talk to mara wilson"
898[28/12/2014, 12:38:48 PM] drinternetphd: earlier today when I had to talk to mara wilson
899[28/12/2014, 12:39:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Approach from the side and avoid showing teeth?
900[28/12/2014, 12:39:10 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
901[28/12/2014, 12:40:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: wait, had to?
902[28/12/2014, 12:41:46 PM] David Gallant: Mara Wilson seems pretty cool.
903[28/12/2014, 12:41:59 PM] drinternetphd: yeah my friend who's friends with her put me in a fb group chat so I could ask her stuff about pitching nonfiction
904[28/12/2014, 12:42:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: aha
905[28/12/2014, 12:43:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: lol https://www.dropbox.com/s/y992papzukg92tf/Screenshot%202014-12-27%2020.04.13.png?dl=0
906[28/12/2014, 12:43:44 PM] Alex Lifschitz: i guess that guy is followed by Rare Basement and Dudehugs
907[28/12/2014, 12:44:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do when you're doing battle with evil wizards- http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qjrw0/fredrick_hotwheels_brennan_outs_himself_as_a/cn6rv1l
908[28/12/2014, 12:45:06 PM] David Gallant: Rare Basement?
909[28/12/2014, 12:45:15 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Weird Twitter royalty
910[28/12/2014, 12:45:20 PM] Athena Hollow: lol what idiots
911[28/12/2014, 12:45:25 PM] Dan Olson: The problem is Lawful Stupid.
912[28/12/2014, 12:45:32 PM] Dan Olson: and Mara Wilson is a boss
913[28/12/2014, 12:45:40 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: think you're a few topics behind there Dan
914[28/12/2014, 12:45:43 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm starting to kind of weirdly enjoy my mythology in Gamergate
915[28/12/2014, 12:45:43 PM] drinternetphd: lol
916[28/12/2014, 12:45:45 PM] Quinnae: Ah, I missed a good discussion about LG because I went to mix drinks!
917[28/12/2014, 12:45:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: heh
918[28/12/2014, 12:45:57 PM] Quinnae: throws nectarines at people
919[28/12/2014, 12:46:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I thought it was weird you weren't chiming in
920[28/12/2014, 12:46:04 PM] Dan Olson: I felt left out :-(
921[28/12/2014, 12:46:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but yeah seriously
922[28/12/2014, 12:46:13 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
923[28/12/2014, 12:46:20 PM] Dan Olson: and I'm playing a Paladin in our next D&D game, so it's topical for m
924[28/12/2014, 12:46:33 PM] Athena Hollow: yeah, your mythology gets bigger & scarier every re-telling, Alex
925[28/12/2014, 12:46:35 PM] David Gallant: I wish I had a D&D group.
926[28/12/2014, 12:46:43 PM] Rob: I wish I had a RIFTS group
927[28/12/2014, 12:46:46 PM] Quinnae: What if we became a D&D group?
928[28/12/2014, 12:46:51 PM] Athena Hollow: Soon enough, your dad is going to be not only running guns, but also his own country with nukes.
929[28/12/2014, 12:46:51 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I've stopped correcting people because 1. I don't wanna drag my dad into this any further and 2. I am eagerly awaiting the day I encounter someone saying that about me in person
930[28/12/2014, 12:47:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm already GMing 2 nights a week so not it
931[28/12/2014, 12:47:22 PM] Dan Olson: but, yeah, I got to spend 8 hours in a car with Mara and it was awesome, also that's a lie, no one wishes they had a RIFTS group, because that would mean *playing* RIFTS and not just *thinking about playing* RIFTS
932[28/12/2014, 12:47:33 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
933[28/12/2014, 12:47:40 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've had sooooo many conversations where people are going on and on about detect-smite-kill and reading the quotes from official alignment descriptions, noting that by Pathfinder's definitions, no, that's straight-up CE dude.
934[28/12/2014, 12:47:53 PM] David Gallant: LOL Dan. RIFTS was my first system that I never got to play more than once.
935[28/12/2014, 12:48:03 PM] Athena Hollow: 2nd ed ad&d for me
936[28/12/2014, 12:48:10 PM] David Gallant: Glitter Boys for life, FREE QUEBEC FOREVER
937[28/12/2014, 12:48:14 PM] Athena Hollow: lolol
938[28/12/2014, 12:48:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I... own more Rifts books than I care to publicly admit.
939[28/12/2014, 12:48:38 PM] Rob: I love rifts
940[28/12/2014, 12:48:43 PM] Dan Olson: the problems with RIFTS are basically as long as the books are.
941[28/12/2014, 12:48:45 PM] Rob: I've only played it for like 10 sessions though
942[28/12/2014, 12:49:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Here's how you make Rifts work:
943[28/12/2014, 12:49:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Don't set the campaign on Rifts Earth
944[28/12/2014, 12:49:17 PM] David Gallant: I think the ideas in RIFTS books are great but I don't think I'd ever "play" the system.
945[28/12/2014, 12:49:22 PM] Dan Olson: don't use the actual written rules of RIFTS
946[28/12/2014, 12:49:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the rules are fine
947[28/12/2014, 12:49:32 PM] David Gallant: But then, as a GM I always played very loose with the rules.
948[28/12/2014, 12:49:38 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, SDC/MDC is wonky
949[28/12/2014, 12:49:40 PM] Rob: I played a pilot from the 'murica space station. Basically all the space stations and the Lunar base decided to send a team down to Earth to see what was up, so I was piloting a NEMA Silver Eagle SAMAS
950[28/12/2014, 12:49:41 PM] Dan Olson: The rules are busted.
951[28/12/2014, 12:49:50 PM] Rob: But our transport ship got splorted by a dragon so only a few of us lived.
952[28/12/2014, 12:49:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: worked great for Robotech, but, the scale change is important
953[28/12/2014, 12:50:03 PM] Rob: And we were running from the Coalition b/c they wanted to capture our NEMA gear and other stuff.
954[28/12/2014, 12:50:55 PM] David Gallant: SAMAS are coo, I guess. They're no Glitter Boys, though.
955[28/12/2014, 12:51:04 PM] Rob: Someone already was playing a glitter boy
956[28/12/2014, 12:51:17 PM] Dan Olson: SDC/MDC is broken. The combat round is terribly laid out, there's dozens of redundant systems, the classes are... well... I wouldn't even say "unbalanced" since "literal Hobo out of the 1930s" is right next to "sapient space station"
957[28/12/2014, 12:51:28 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
958[28/12/2014, 12:51:37 PM] David Gallant: Too true, Dan.
959[28/12/2014, 12:51:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'll defend the class selection
960[28/12/2014, 12:52:07 PM] Dan Olson: the class selection can at least be made to work if everyone's on the same page as to the tone and scope of the campaign
961[28/12/2014, 12:52:09 PM] Rob: I like that they're blatant about the fact it's nto balanced
962[28/12/2014, 12:52:19 PM] David Gallant: Back when I was publishing a free d20 pdf magazine, I wrote a class called the "C-Aug Soldier" that was basically a d20 Juicer.
963[28/12/2014, 12:52:23 PM] Rob: D&D tries to claim the classes are balanced but they're really not.
964[28/12/2014, 12:52:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Intentionally tossing out PC options all over the power-scale is a cool thing to do, let's you run a campaign on any of those scales
965[28/12/2014, 12:53:14 PM] Dan Olson: but when you go "kay, everyone make a character!" you're going to end up with some dude with an SDC knife who's schtick is that he's got a pet dog next to a someone piloting a flying Howitzer.
966[28/12/2014, 12:53:36 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Right, but going "kay, everyone make a character!" is a terrible way to start any campaign
967[28/12/2014, 12:53:43 PM] Rob: but I can also make a Dog Boy named Sgt. McGruff, so there's that.
968[28/12/2014, 12:54:10 PM] David Gallant: Maybe not - as a GM, I can think of ways that every character gets to shine, even the dude with no hope in heavy combat.
969[28/12/2014, 12:54:21 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it usually works out with D&D, because after 40 years, everyone has enough of a handle on how a typical D&D campaign plays out that they're just naturally on the same page
970[28/12/2014, 12:54:21 PM] David Gallant: It's all up to the GM.
971[28/12/2014, 12:54:56 PM] Dan Olson: which loops into a cultural flaw with TTRPGs in general, since almost all of them hold "you decide what you want to play" up as a sacred principle, and throw in "maybe talk about it as a group?" as a "helpful suggestion"
972[28/12/2014, 12:55:24 PM] Rob: Did anyone here ever play Conspiracy X?
973[28/12/2014, 12:55:26 PM] David Gallant: Not everyone at the table has that kind of experience, either.
974[28/12/2014, 12:55:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: otherwise though, you really need to go "OK, so here's the concept- you're all a bunch of lowly street urchins just scraping by in the slums north of Detroit, and towards the end of the first session, everything's going to go to hell in an invasion of insect people"
975[28/12/2014, 12:55:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and then get character pitches discussed openly to make sure everyone's on the same wavelength
976[28/12/2014, 12:57:12 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is largely why I'm a huge fan of a lot of weird indie RPGs, and a bit of a fan of Shadowrun and Eclipse Phase. It's very very important to establish a baseline for the actual game you're going to play. Way too many people just describe the setting as a whole and call it a day.
977[28/12/2014, 12:58:32 PM] Dan Olson: I love TTRPGs, but 90% of them are terrible, and the remainder are mediocre. It's an incredibly inbred and stale genre.
978[28/12/2014, 12:58:37 PM] SF: That Jezebel article has made more money than my entire gaming career.
979[28/12/2014, 12:59:20 PM] Dan Olson: Because the "core" players are conservative players in the worst kind of way
980[28/12/2014, 12:59:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: eh, there's also the new indie RPG scene
981[28/12/2014, 12:59:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: which... honestly also has some Issues
982[28/12/2014, 12:59:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but they're different issues
983[28/12/2014, 12:59:55 PM] Dan Olson: and no one's willing to be radical about courting a different audience, or challenging core conceits
984[28/12/2014, 1:00:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: no no, that there's plenty of
985[28/12/2014, 1:00:32 PM] Dan Olson: Eh, Dungeon World and 13th Age are still pulling their punches, IMO.
986[28/12/2014, 1:00:41 PM] Dan Olson: but this is a subject that I probably get irrational about
987[28/12/2014, 1:01:08 PM] Tesseract: so what happened today
988[28/12/2014, 1:01:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I know tons of people who are exclusively into that flavor of game that puts so much emphasis on player-controlled-narative that they full on cross the line from roleplaying to collaborative story writing
989[28/12/2014, 1:01:18 PM] Tesseract: I'm hearing about hotwheels writing for daily stormer
990[28/12/2014, 1:01:21 PM] Athena Hollow: Milo said "Neo nazis are too far"
991[28/12/2014, 1:01:27 PM] Athena Hollow: Kuwikku was apparently banned from KiA
992[28/12/2014, 1:01:31 PM] Tesseract: oh noooooooooo
993[28/12/2014, 1:01:33 PM] Tesseract: why
994[28/12/2014, 1:01:34 PM] Athena Hollow: Zoe isn't banned from patreon
995[28/12/2014, 1:01:40 PM] Tesseract: THANK GOD
996[28/12/2014, 1:01:45 PM] Tesseract: BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY
997[28/12/2014, 1:01:51 PM] Randi Harper: >I am eagerly awaiting the day I encounter someone saying that about me in person
998
999See, I am terrified of that.
1000[28/12/2014, 1:01:51 PM] Dan Olson: I do like Dogs in the Vineyard and Burning Wheel (though BW has many, many problems, and thus the Mouseguard variant is best.)
1001[28/12/2014, 1:01:55 PM] Tesseract: WHY WOULD THOSE MONSTERS DO THIS TO KIWIKKU
1002[28/12/2014, 1:02:01 PM] Athena Hollow: They're assholes.
1003[28/12/2014, 1:02:32 PM] Athena Hollow: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2q0412/a_message_to_gamergate/cn2186s
1004[28/12/2014, 1:02:36 PM] Quinnae: Okay, what the fuck is wrong with this guy? https://twitter.com/locke742/status/549067098123939841
1005[28/12/2014, 1:02:51 PM] Quinnae: He will not stop messaging me and I'm getting this creepy vibe from him.
1006[28/12/2014, 1:02:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: same thing as every GGer?
1007[28/12/2014, 1:03:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: He's trying to parrot back what people have said to him and not getting the proper context of the words he's stringing together
1008[28/12/2014, 1:03:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... or possibly intentionally giving that impression to better get under your skin and waste your time
1009[28/12/2014, 1:03:51 PM] Athena Hollow: lol i responded to his dumbass Katherine XD
1010[28/12/2014, 1:04:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'd have blocked him and moved on a while ago
1011[28/12/2014, 1:04:12 PM] Dan Olson: That's super creepy
1012[28/12/2014, 1:04:13 PM] Athena Hollow: I'll probably be blocking him too.
1013[28/12/2014, 1:04:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but anyway, seriously, here's how you make Rifts playable-
1014[28/12/2014, 1:04:33 PM] Quinnae: Athena, you're my hero. And yeah, SGG, I agree. I just kept him unblocked because he was just creepy enough I felt I needed to see what he was saying in order to be careful.
1015[28/12/2014, 1:04:41 PM] Quinnae: But I probably should just block him.
1016[28/12/2014, 1:04:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: You don't use the default setting as the setting, you use it as the big threat
1017[28/12/2014, 1:05:06 PM] SF: Does anyone else think Patreon not being a dick to Zoe redeems them? I'm still feeling like I'm morally opposed to using them myself (especially after pandachi's BS responses) but I'd be interested in counter-arguments.
1018[28/12/2014, 1:05:38 PM] Randi Harper: holy crap
1019[28/12/2014, 1:05:47 PM] Randi Harper: every time i mention my patreon i get more donations and it freaks me out.
1020[28/12/2014, 1:05:51 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
1021[28/12/2014, 1:05:52 PM] Randi Harper: i think i'm going to close it out after all of this is over.
1022[28/12/2014, 1:06:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: start everyone off with some very tight race/class restrictions (or just full on use a different Palladium game), keep things nice and grounded, and make the whole thing about dealing with this portal opening up into the hellish chaotic kitchen sink that is Rifts Earth
1023[28/12/2014, 1:06:27 PM] Athena Hollow: I think they are trying to be as calm as possible to avoid ddosing & harassment of their team.
1024[28/12/2014, 1:06:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: could just re-donate cash to people who really need it?
1025[28/12/2014, 1:07:03 PM] David Gallant: Pandachi's apology to Slade was disgusting.
1026[28/12/2014, 1:07:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Personally though, I'm still real far removed from any thoughts of ever touching Patreon
1027[28/12/2014, 1:07:33 PM] SF: Yeah not to mention him insisting 8chan had no CP.
1028[28/12/2014, 1:07:44 PM] Randi Harper: people kept asking what they could do to help with ggab, so i was flailing and like "HERE PAY FOR THE BILLS"
1029[28/12/2014, 1:07:45 PM] SF: Even when linked directly, he claimed the "child modelling" was fine.
1030[28/12/2014, 1:07:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Tomorrow, they are theoretically doing something which still doesn't even reach the bare minimum of basic ethical behavior.
1031[28/12/2014, 1:07:57 PM] David Gallant: Which sucks, because I JUST started using Patreon. I'm actually in a position where I need it.
1032[28/12/2014, 1:08:00 PM] SF: And he talked to Cernovich about "gamergate versus SJWs"
1033[28/12/2014, 1:08:04 PM] SF: His words
1034[28/12/2014, 1:08:18 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, we were looking into it to develop some smaller regular things for our system, like monster packs & class/race templates. But I think instead we're just gonna set up our own.
1035[28/12/2014, 1:08:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, they're not the only game in town keep in mind
1036[28/12/2014, 1:08:39 PM] SF: The thing is the others all have less strict rules.
1037[28/12/2014, 1:08:43 PM] Athena Hollow: Yep.
1038[28/12/2014, 1:08:48 PM] SF: And are probably therefore just as awful, they just haven't been tested.
1039[28/12/2014, 1:08:49 PM] David Gallant: I don't know of the alternatives, to be honest.
1040[28/12/2014, 1:09:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: What's the actual advantage Patreon has over just, direct donations via paypal/amazon/whatever?
1041[28/12/2014, 1:09:23 PM] Athena Hollow: traffic.
1042[28/12/2014, 1:09:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: not from what I hear?
1043[28/12/2014, 1:09:35 PM] Athena Hollow: Same reason to use kickstarter as opposed to crowdsource your own.
1044[28/12/2014, 1:09:36 PM] Randi Harper: i'm not sure if you can easily set up a small monthly donation over paypal/amazon?
1045[28/12/2014, 1:09:42 PM] Randi Harper: what is my undead doing
1046[28/12/2014, 1:09:43 PM] Athena Hollow: Yep. You can.
1047[28/12/2014, 1:09:45 PM] SF: Automatic reward management.
1048[28/12/2014, 1:09:46 PM] Randi Harper: is she.. holding her breath?
1049[28/12/2014, 1:09:46 PM] David Gallant: Traffic and infrastructure.
1050[28/12/2014, 1:09:48 PM] Randi Harper: she's undead
1051[28/12/2014, 1:09:55 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1052[28/12/2014, 1:09:58 PM] SF: Familiar splash page, brand recognition.
1053[28/12/2014, 1:10:09 PM] SF: Like how Kickstarters are almost a mark of quality now, as backward as that is.
1054[28/12/2014, 1:10:19 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Kickstarter has a bunch of promotion built into it
1055[28/12/2014, 1:10:33 PM] Athena Hollow: http://zombieorpheus.com/fanscription-tour/
1056Can definitely do it yourself :)
1057[28/12/2014, 1:10:36 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah.
1058[28/12/2014, 1:10:36 PM] SF: Isn't that only if you're already kinda successful?
1059[28/12/2014, 1:11:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Patreon... really doesn't, and has the sort of busted search where looking for Chloe Sagal's page gives you that nasty hit piece someone did on her
1060[28/12/2014, 1:11:14 PM] Athena Hollow: I was thinking more from within the network itself.
1061[28/12/2014, 1:11:22 PM] Athena Hollow: Like, people cross promoting - much like how kickstarter started.
1062[28/12/2014, 1:11:29 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so, all you really get from it is brand recognition which is... less and less of an upside lately
1063[28/12/2014, 1:11:45 PM] Randi Harper: http://imgur.com/svOx0lX,5RZYyYm
1064[28/12/2014, 1:11:59 PM] Randi Harper: she's holding her goddamn breath
1065[28/12/2014, 1:12:10 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, how our kickstarter hit it's tiny goal was the main person from Giant in the Playground mentioning us during his OOTS reprint KS.
1066[28/12/2014, 1:12:15 PM] Randi Harper: o_O
1067[28/12/2014, 1:12:20 PM] Athena Hollow: and LMAO
1068[28/12/2014, 1:12:24 PM] Randi Harper: Athena, are you associated with zombie Orpheus?
1069[28/12/2014, 1:12:41 PM] Athena Hollow: Sort of.
1070[28/12/2014, 1:12:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: sure, but again, you can plug someone's personal page just as easily
1071[28/12/2014, 1:12:55 PM] Athena Hollow: Friends w/ all of them, helped work on the last movie, wrote the Humans & Households quickstart :D
1072[28/12/2014, 1:13:01 PM] Randi Harper: o_O
1073[28/12/2014, 1:13:05 PM] David Gallant: Randi - I'm guessing it's a global animation trigger that they never thought to disable for undead.
1074[28/12/2014, 1:13:06 PM] Randi Harper: HI LETS BE FRIENDS
1075[28/12/2014, 1:13:08 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahah
1076[28/12/2014, 1:13:25 PM] Randi Harper: i went out after PAX with a bunch of the gamers actors
1077[28/12/2014, 1:13:27 PM] Randi Harper: and it was amaze
1078[28/12/2014, 1:13:32 PM] Athena Hollow: They are the best.
1079[28/12/2014, 1:13:36 PM] Randi Harper: gamers: dorkness rising is one of my favorite movies of all times.
1080[28/12/2014, 1:13:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: what's a global animation trigger/
1081[28/12/2014, 1:13:51 PM] Athena Hollow: Randi's undead holding it's breath in water.
1082[28/12/2014, 1:14:02 PM] Randi Harper: sorrrrta made out with one of them but then he got all weird
1083[28/12/2014, 1:14:03 PM] Randi Harper: so w/e
1084[28/12/2014, 1:14:07 PM] Athena Hollow: But yeah, I only ever get to see them during Gen Con, so we spend a lot of time together.
1085[28/12/2014, 1:14:08 PM] Athena Hollow: Christian?
1086[28/12/2014, 1:14:19 PM] Randi Harper: hah. i'll never tell which. :P
1087[28/12/2014, 1:14:20 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1088[28/12/2014, 1:14:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
1089[28/12/2014, 1:14:36 PM] Athena Hollow: Well, it's relatively easy to discern since I know which ones are married and which ones arent LOL
1090[28/12/2014, 1:14:42 PM] Athena Hollow: but yeah mums the word hahahaha
1091[28/12/2014, 1:14:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: mechanically that's a thing though isn't it? They just hold their breath better than non-undead?
1092[28/12/2014, 1:15:04 PM] Athena Hollow: Technically undead shouldn't breathe at all
1093[28/12/2014, 1:15:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah but apparently that'd be overpowered or something
1094[28/12/2014, 1:15:23 PM] Randi Harper: undead don't breathe!
1095[28/12/2014, 1:15:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also then they couldn't talk
1096[28/12/2014, 1:15:32 PM] Athena Hollow: But yes, Zoe are amazing people. The whole group of them <3
1097[28/12/2014, 1:15:36 PM] Randi Harper: they used to have a much longer underwater timer before drowning
1098[28/12/2014, 1:15:38 PM] Dan Olson: It can't be a global trigger. They just spent months re-doing all the facial skeletons from scratch for each race
1099[28/12/2014, 1:15:48 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm not sure which of the Gamers movies is my favorite
1100[28/12/2014, 1:15:51 PM] Randi Harper: i participated in their kickstarter for gamers 3 :D
1101[28/12/2014, 1:15:57 PM] Athena Hollow: I have to say the one I worked on is mine, but yeah LOLOL
1102[28/12/2014, 1:16:00 PM] Randi Harper: and went to the screening in seattle
1103[28/12/2014, 1:16:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: The first one I think has the best gags, second one is more of a proper movie, 3rd one is a bit lacking in humor, but it's a giant love letter to the L5R card game and I kinda really want a copy of the actual clone game they made with KS money
1104[28/12/2014, 1:17:23 PM] Dan Olson: Odd question: does anyone know of any current reputable research, or even just ethnographic writing, on trans* demographics?
1105[28/12/2014, 1:17:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: anything you're specifically looking for?
1106[28/12/2014, 1:18:25 PM] Randi Harper: 1st one seemed harder to get into for people that didn't play RPGs. 2nd one was accessible to everyone. 3rd was more for con folk.
1107[28/12/2014, 1:18:28 PM] Randi Harper: just diff audiences to me.
1108[28/12/2014, 1:18:34 PM] Randi Harper: i did love some of the jokes in the 1st one though
1109[28/12/2014, 1:18:38 PM] Randi Harper: backstab with a ballista.
1110[28/12/2014, 1:18:40 PM] Dan Olson: transmale vs transfemale frequency
1111[28/12/2014, 1:18:52 PM] Athena Hollow: We still run around yelling "THE SHAAAAADOWWWWWWW'
1112[28/12/2014, 1:19:04 PM] David Gallant: Dread Gazebo...
1113[28/12/2014, 1:19:10 PM] Dan Olson: frequency makes the term sound weird, too depersonalizing, I don't like it
1114[28/12/2014, 1:19:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Pretty sure it's tricky to get hard data there
1115[28/12/2014, 1:19:40 PM] Dan Olson: I figure as much.
1116[28/12/2014, 1:19:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's a rarity to begin with, and then there's a lot of people REALLY committed to staying in the closet for fear of being murdered...
1117[28/12/2014, 1:20:07 PM] Athena Hollow: http://youtu.be/ZNxJNpb590c?t=57s tee hee
1118[28/12/2014, 1:20:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and the degree to which that fear is a factor is bound to skew across gender lines
1119[28/12/2014, 1:20:18 PM] Athena Hollow: my only appearance LOL I worked mostly behind the scenes
1120[28/12/2014, 1:20:26 PM] Peter Coffin: hello folks
1121[28/12/2014, 1:20:36 PM] Athena Hollow: I did cosplay coordinating for extras and was random assistant lady lol
1122[28/12/2014, 1:20:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and then there's the total lack of public awareness to the point where plenty of people are totally trans and aren't even aware that's what their deal is
1123[28/12/2014, 1:21:01 PM] Dan Olson: I'm just... I find it curious that I've become aware of a lot of transwomen writers/creators/producers in the last few months, but only one transman. It makes me wonder if I'm just oblivious, or if there's other factors at play.
1124[28/12/2014, 1:21:08 PM] Athena Hollow: I wasn't even gonna be in it, just behind the scenes, and then Matt told me I had to be because I was in my Jack costume LOL
1125[28/12/2014, 1:21:34 PM] Athena Hollow: hi peter
1126[28/12/2014, 1:21:54 PM] Peter Coffin: I would suggest part of it is that misogynistic people are probably more likely to be transmisogynistic and that has made more trans women more visible
1127[28/12/2014, 1:21:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, when dealing with a lot of misogynists, women are more likely to speak up than men, so there's that
1128[28/12/2014, 1:22:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
1129[28/12/2014, 1:22:30 PM] Randi Harper: Athena, that's awesome :D
1130[28/12/2014, 1:22:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I know someone was mentioning the other day that any major public event trying to get a lot of trans people together tends to be male dominated
1131[28/12/2014, 1:23:14 PM] Peter Coffin: also if you had transitioned to male, wouldn't you rather not get dragged into something that ruined you for "actually being a woman"
1132[28/12/2014, 1:23:37 PM] Peter Coffin: I can't imagine how they'd act towards trans men they identified
1133[28/12/2014, 1:24:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... and speaking purely annecdotaly, I meet a LOT more trans women than trans men, within the particular subcultural intersection of really being into RPGs and hanging around message boards and such, but again, that skews along gender lines anyway
1134[28/12/2014, 1:24:34 PM] SF: Undead could breathe for pleasure.
1135[28/12/2014, 1:25:23 PM] Randi Harper: i know 0 trans men
1136[28/12/2014, 1:25:25 PM] SF: I'm trans and my encounters with trans men are also few and far between.
1137[28/12/2014, 1:25:36 PM] SF: I know lots of trans women personally and no trans men.
1138[28/12/2014, 1:25:36 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah I know lots of gender fluid people, but I honestly don't know of any trans men besides Buck Angel and I don't personally know them. >_>
1139[28/12/2014, 1:25:37 PM] Randi Harper: but so many trans women, mostly from tech meetups. trans pretty much dominates woman in tech meetups lately.
1140[28/12/2014, 1:26:05 PM] SF: Anyone saying slurs against trans men should try saying it to Buck Angel's face.
1141[28/12/2014, 1:26:10 PM] SF: I wonder how long they'd keep it up.
1142[28/12/2014, 1:26:11 PM] Athena Hollow: Right?!
1143[28/12/2014, 1:26:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: But again, if you want hard numerical statistics, you really kind of need to first establish a society where people, generally, know what it means to be trans and are totally cool with it
1144[28/12/2014, 1:26:42 PM] SF: It might be because starting as boys meant we got our foot in the door with tech.
1145[28/12/2014, 1:26:55 PM] SF: Whereas men raised as young girls were probably discouraged from pursuing such careers on average.
1146[28/12/2014, 1:27:40 PM] SF: And the tech circles is where most trans people are visible in general nowadays.
1147[28/12/2014, 1:27:41 PM] Dan Olson: The two off-the-cuff theories in my head - anglo femininity is "broad enough" to encompass masculine non-conformity, due to the dominant position of masculinity in society, so more transmen don't feel the pressure to present quite as hard.
1148[28/12/2014, 1:28:08 PM] SF: Also a good point. Like "tomboys" are already a common gender identity and that might mean less dysphoria is present.
1149[28/12/2014, 1:28:14 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
1150[28/12/2014, 1:28:29 PM] SF: I wonder sometimes if I'd be fine with being a "femboy" if that weren't significantly less acceptable than being a trans woman right now.
1151[28/12/2014, 1:28:44 PM] Peter Coffin: whereas if you are even slightly feminine as a male you're mocked
1152[28/12/2014, 1:28:45 PM] Randi Harper: tech culture is getting a little bit uncomfortable for a lot of people lately. i'm honestly kind of waiting for an implosion of some sort.
1153[28/12/2014, 1:28:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It's also POSSIBLE that trans men really are more rare, just because the weird crazy in-womb-hormone-imbalances responsible are more common in that direction
1154[28/12/2014, 1:29:04 PM] SF: Yeah. I got shit all the time presenting as male before because I just couldn't be masculine no matter how hard I try.
1155[28/12/2014, 1:29:08 PM] Randi Harper: based on conversations I've had, i think a lot of cis women that were already quiet and feeling out of place are going to retreat even more or leave the industry entirely.
1156[28/12/2014, 1:29:10 PM] SF: On the plus side I pass without hormones, heh.
1157[28/12/2014, 1:29:24 PM] Dan Olson: OR, sgg just beat me to it, transmen are literally just less common.
1158[28/12/2014, 1:29:31 PM] Athena Hollow: Let's just all leave the bro industry and tell them to go fuck themselves and make our own LOL
1159[28/12/2014, 1:29:37 PM] Athena Hollow: god if it were only that fucking easy -_-
1160[28/12/2014, 1:29:41 PM] Peter Coffin: I'm not particularly masculine other than the fact I grow facial hair ridiculously
1161[28/12/2014, 1:29:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: don't have any data at all on that one way or the other though
1162[28/12/2014, 1:29:55 PM] SF: I grow less hair than cis women.
1163[28/12/2014, 1:29:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I probably have you beat on that front
1164[28/12/2014, 1:30:09 PM] Peter Coffin: I get shit on a lot. I can't imagine someone entirely not masculine
1165[28/12/2014, 1:30:14 PM] Peter Coffin: who is presenting as male
1166[28/12/2014, 1:30:18 PM] Peter Coffin: the shit they would get
1167[28/12/2014, 1:30:22 PM] Peter Coffin: people are assholes
1168[28/12/2014, 1:30:32 PM] Athena Hollow: I hate you all. I get all Chewbacca from the waist down (minus my ass LOL)
1169[28/12/2014, 1:30:39 PM] Athena Hollow: after like 3 days of not shaving.
1170[28/12/2014, 1:30:46 PM] SF: It wasn't easily especially given my voice is fairly passable when I loosen up. Before I had to force it down really hard and it made me hoarse all the time.
1171[28/12/2014, 1:30:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I mean, I'm obviously not bragging, but I kinda can't not have a beard
1172[28/12/2014, 1:30:56 PM] SF: I was in my mid 20s sounding like a 13 year old trying to sound older.
1173[28/12/2014, 1:31:25 PM] Peter Coffin: oh I am hairy as hell. just kind of limp in movement, people hate it
1174[28/12/2014, 1:31:30 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: takes other people like 2 weeks if not a month to get what I do in a day
1175[28/12/2014, 1:31:32 PM] SF: It raises interesting questions as to whether my resulting dysphoria was in fact genetic, or learned.
1176[28/12/2014, 1:32:21 PM] Peter Coffin: what is your theory
1177[28/12/2014, 1:33:05 PM] SF: No one's asked me that, hmm...
1178[28/12/2014, 1:33:36 PM] Peter Coffin: who better to ask?
1179[28/12/2014, 1:33:46 PM] SF: I guess I've had it as long as I can remember, but I've also had judgement for my non-masculine mannerisms even from a young age (parents), so I don't think I can meaningfully say which it's more likely to be.
1180[28/12/2014, 1:33:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: which is actually, weirdly, a big part of how I worked out the whole trans bit. Oh hey, it makes sense that I've got all this super hardcore tertiary manliness going on but not so much the primary if the starting point was girl"
1181[28/12/2014, 1:34:21 PM] Dan Olson: I know I've heard several people suggest that "trans" isn't "real" in the sense that they present it as a conflict between internality and society, and that if the societal conflict didn't exist, if gender presentation were fluid enough, then the dysphoria wouldn't present.
1182[28/12/2014, 1:34:44 PM] Dan Olson: I'm not sure if I'd go with that whole hog, though, simply because some people feel a deep dysphoria with their physical bodies
1183[28/12/2014, 1:35:44 PM] Randi Harper: http://imgur.com/gallery/f1DFI
1184[28/12/2014, 1:35:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, that's also working off a flawed understanding of the whole thing too
1185[28/12/2014, 1:36:35 PM] Dan Olson: hahaha, Randi, this is hilarious
1186[28/12/2014, 1:36:42 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1187[28/12/2014, 1:36:47 PM] Dan Olson: and, yes SGG, no doubt.
1188[28/12/2014, 1:37:18 PM] Dan Olson: I'll straight up admit a lot of ignorance of the nuances.
1189[28/12/2014, 1:37:20 PM] Peter Coffin: that is hilarious
1190[28/12/2014, 1:38:02 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I have decided to branch out into writing childrens' books http://pastebin.com/EyFdpp8j
1191[28/12/2014, 1:38:18 PM] SF: The definition of "transgender" is getting increasingly blurry. Even a lot of trans people get it wrong in that it means "identifies as a gender other than the one assigned at birth" at its most literal, it doesn't mean "presentation and junk don't match".
1192[28/12/2014, 1:38:27 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL Oh god Alex.
1193[28/12/2014, 1:38:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm thinking of tweeting it all just to shit up peoples' timelines lol
1194[28/12/2014, 1:38:57 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahhahahaha
1195[28/12/2014, 1:39:06 PM] Dan Olson: Right, and what I was writing was still predicated on a binary in a lot of ways.
1196[28/12/2014, 1:40:13 PM] SF: My reasoning is that assuming the binary still makes sense right now since 99% of society operates on it.
1197[28/12/2014, 1:40:35 PM] SF: Shaping language around ideals rather than practical use doesn't communicate meaningful ideas, in my opinion.
1198[28/12/2014, 1:40:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: On a certain level, what it really comes down to is just
1199[28/12/2014, 1:41:12 PM] SF: Though society is hypocritical in some regards, like how aforementioned tomboys are accepted as just a different kind of girl.
1200[28/12/2014, 1:41:13 PM] Peter Coffin: I liked that alex, I find simplifying things like that is often the most gratifying way of expressing it
1201[28/12/2014, 1:41:36 PM] Peter Coffin: it was certainly gratifying to read
1202[28/12/2014, 1:42:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Hey, look at this movie/show/book which somehow manages to have equally well-written men and women in it all doing super cool stuff. Which characters do you find yourself identifying with the most?
1203[28/12/2014, 1:42:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: or, more practically, hey, we're playing RPGs over IRC. Which gender are most of your characters generally pulling?
1204[28/12/2014, 1:42:57 PM] SF: I love that book Alex.
1205[28/12/2014, 1:43:08 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Alright imma shit up some timelines
1206[28/12/2014, 1:43:26 PM] Dan Olson: Randi: I agree with Catduck, wtf is that crap? They literally re-wrote the functionality of the link tag as a list item. WTF.
1207[28/12/2014, 1:43:28 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
1208[28/12/2014, 1:43:39 PM] SF: Oh I'm all for games having gender sliders rather than radio buttons. It makes sense aesthetically to me even without intended politics.
1209[28/12/2014, 1:43:49 PM] Randi Harper: i'm not a webdev. i just RT smart people so i can look smart too.
1210[28/12/2014, 1:43:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: or, "Hey, this couple is having a nasty breakup, who did you instinctively side with before the facts came out?"
1211[28/12/2014, 1:43:55 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
1212[28/12/2014, 1:44:29 PM] Randi Harper: i remember a decade ago trying to figure out CSS and noping the fuck out of that
1213[28/12/2014, 1:44:30 PM] SF: Or perhaps a gender triangle. Left and right extremes are masculine and feminine, centre is hermaphroditic, apex is androgynous.
1214[28/12/2014, 1:44:30 PM] Remy: I like sfwolf's gender slider idea
1215[28/12/2014, 1:44:47 PM] Remy: I was gonna suggest that
1216[28/12/2014, 1:44:48 PM] SF: Each extreme could be defined by morph targets without too much technical trouble.
1217[28/12/2014, 1:45:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: there's often horrible body image issues in there too, but, those aren't necessarily tied in with being trans
1218[28/12/2014, 1:45:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also intersexed, not hermaphroditic.
1219[28/12/2014, 1:45:58 PM] SF: Doesn't intersexed mean something else?
1220[28/12/2014, 1:46:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
1221[28/12/2014, 1:46:16 PM] SF: That is, I meant a word expressing "has both masculine and feminine characteristics" rather than neither.
1222[28/12/2014, 1:46:36 PM] SF: I thought intersex meant a selective mix of the two (or ambiguous external genitals).
1223[28/12/2014, 1:46:37 PM] Dan Olson: Basically the dimensions would be sex (x) and severity (y)
1224[28/12/2014, 1:46:42 PM] Dan Olson: ( y )
1225[28/12/2014, 1:46:49 PM] SF: Well put.
1226[28/12/2014, 1:46:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hermaphroditic is a species wide thing
1227[28/12/2014, 1:46:57 PM] Dan Olson: because apparently (y) is a thumbs up in Skype
1228[28/12/2014, 1:46:59 PM] Tesseract: one of my friends thought she was a boy as a kid but changed her mind as a teenager
1229[28/12/2014, 1:47:18 PM] SF: How do you know if you don't try?
1230[28/12/2014, 1:47:55 PM] SF: Kinda weird in that regard how it's seen as an insult to one's heterosexual identity if a man tries something with another man, for example.
1231[28/12/2014, 1:48:08 PM] SF: Aren't you like, way more definitively hetero if you try an alternative and turn out not to like it?
1232[28/12/2014, 1:48:47 PM] Peter Coffin: I would think so
1233[28/12/2014, 1:49:05 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah that's always been my argument against dudebro-hetero. Like, I get it if you aren't attracted to other guys or whatever, but to get all offended about it is just dumb & seems rather defensive.
1234[28/12/2014, 1:49:12 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, you could just legitimately not see the appeal
1235[28/12/2014, 1:49:25 PM] SF: Oh for sure, I don't mean to say anyone HAS to try everything.
1236[28/12/2014, 1:49:34 PM] Dan Olson: I'd almost make it a full field rather than a triangle, since a full field would let you have stereotypicality (i.e. mesomorph males) at the most extreme, while moving towards ectomorph at the other end without neccissarily going towards androgyny.
1237[28/12/2014, 1:49:40 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but all those "homosexuality is a choice" types who get all prickily about it clearly DO see the appeal
1238[28/12/2014, 1:50:12 PM] Athena Hollow: "Homosexuality is a choice!" "Well, then, isn't heterosexuality a choice as well?"
1239[28/12/2014, 1:50:13 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1240[28/12/2014, 1:50:16 PM] Dan Olson: since I'm kinda femme in body shape, but I have a beard of legends
1241[28/12/2014, 1:50:18 PM] SF: I like that idea Dan.
1242[28/12/2014, 1:50:23 PM] Peter Coffin: "Uhh"
1243[28/12/2014, 1:50:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: seriously
1244[28/12/2014, 1:50:43 PM] Remy: One of my high school friends tried out living as a boy to see if she wanted to have gender re-alignment. Decided it wasn't for her. I sometimes wonder if it was b/c it wasn't her or if she decided the social stigma and abuse and drama and baggage wasn't worth it
1245[28/12/2014, 1:50:53 PM] SF: I have so many OPINIONS on this but I need to go for dinner right now so please continue talking about this subject for at least 1 more hour.
1246[28/12/2014, 1:50:57 PM] Athena Hollow: :)
1247[28/12/2014, 1:51:09 PM] Remy: Lol I just remembered
1248[28/12/2014, 1:51:14 PM] Dan Olson: ALRIGHT, MASS EFFECT OTPS, GO!
1249[28/12/2014, 1:51:19 PM] Remy: We used to spend the summers practicing making out lol
1250[28/12/2014, 1:51:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: personally, I don't think I'd ever go the surgery route
1251[28/12/2014, 1:51:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: just because surgery is really really scary and dangerous
1252[28/12/2014, 1:51:38 PM] Athena Hollow: I have some friends who have, and others who haven't.
1253[28/12/2014, 1:51:40 PM] Remy: Childhood is a grab bag of crazy memories
1254[28/12/2014, 1:51:52 PM] Athena Hollow: But if you ever decide to, I can get you the names of some amazing doctors LOL
1255[28/12/2014, 1:52:57 PM] Athena Hollow: ughhhhhhhhh this shit is making my ears hurt now :(
1256[28/12/2014, 1:53:06 PM] Athena Hollow: fucking hate getting sick.
1257[28/12/2014, 1:53:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: plus, 6 month recovery period, and I'm asexual so, eh, nobody's business what's going on down there
1258[28/12/2014, 1:53:25 PM] Remy: Yay sinus infections
1259[28/12/2014, 1:53:43 PM] Athena Hollow: mine sadly started in my chest so I'm worried it's bronchitis -_-
1260[28/12/2014, 1:53:46 PM] Tesseract: what's with the title
1261[28/12/2014, 1:53:47 PM] Ian Cheong: Out with my family now
1262[28/12/2014, 1:53:55 PM] Athena Hollow: lol zoe randomly changed it earlier
1263[28/12/2014, 1:54:25 PM] Peter Coffin: I'd be afraid of even routine surgery. I don't blame anyone for being agreed of any surgery. Shit is scary
1264[28/12/2014, 1:54:34 PM] Ian Cheong: I’m not big on hugs. 
1265[28/12/2014, 1:54:37 PM] Athena Hollow: haha
1266[28/12/2014, 2:07:10 PM] Dina : Dina  hugs Ian carefully
1267[28/12/2014, 2:08:29 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1268[28/12/2014, 2:08:52 PM] Athena Hollow: Dinaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... you should come baby me because I'm sick.
1269[28/12/2014, 2:12:00 PM] Dina : ok ;D
1270[28/12/2014, 2:12:30 PM] Athena Hollow: yay!
1271[28/12/2014, 2:12:45 PM] Ian Cheong: Aww thanks
1272[28/12/2014, 2:12:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Dan I would kill for your beard
1273[28/12/2014, 2:13:18 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Best I can do after like two months without shaving is patchy trailer park steez
1274[28/12/2014, 2:13:31 PM] Dina : alex just wants to kill lets be honest
1275[28/12/2014, 2:13:32 PM] Athena Hollow: lol my husband's also grows in "all white trashy like"
1276[28/12/2014, 2:14:57 PM] Athena Hollow: alex: has anyone volunteered to storify that yet?
1277[28/12/2014, 2:15:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: lol nope
1278[28/12/2014, 2:16:02 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Go crazy
1279[28/12/2014, 2:16:37 PM] Ian Cheong: Another plane crashed in my region
1280[28/12/2014, 2:16:46 PM] Ian Cheong: 160 onboard
1281[28/12/2014, 2:17:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Shitty year for aviation
1282[28/12/2014, 2:17:08 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yes
1283[28/12/2014, 2:17:09 PM] Athena Hollow: dammit. it fucks up the formatting for the last one LOL
1284[28/12/2014, 2:17:11 PM] Athena Hollow: and damn.
1285[28/12/2014, 2:17:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and are you now storifying Alex's lousy beard growth?
1286[28/12/2014, 2:17:46 PM] Athena Hollow: nm it fixed it
1287[28/12/2014, 2:18:27 PM] Athena Hollow: https://storify.com/athenahollow/the-corporations-that-loved-so-much
1288[28/12/2014, 2:18:55 PM] Ian Cheong: What's this
1289[28/12/2014, 2:19:06 PM] Athena Hollow: lol it's the children's story Alex wrote.
1290[28/12/2014, 2:21:56 PM] Ian Cheong: Wow. That was great and greatly depressing
1291[28/12/2014, 2:22:03 PM] Athena Hollow: heh
1292[28/12/2014, 2:22:05 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
1293[28/12/2014, 2:22:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: srsly the last stage of this is gonna get industry to grow some fuckin' eggs and step up
1294[28/12/2014, 2:22:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: except of course it depends on this fantasy of GGers paying for games
1295[28/12/2014, 2:24:26 PM] Alex Lifschitz: yep
1296[28/12/2014, 2:24:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I keep saying, like, look, how fucking toothless do we have to prove these people are on a fiscal level before you're pull your head out of the sand
1297[28/12/2014, 2:25:26 PM] Alex Lifschitz: This whole thing is them literally putting their consumer identity before basic morality, you think they're really gonna follow through on a fucking boycott?
1298[28/12/2014, 2:25:41 PM] Athena Hollow: points to COD boycott
1299[28/12/2014, 2:25:43 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1300[28/12/2014, 2:25:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Exactly
1301[28/12/2014, 2:25:55 PM] Tesseract: they literally refuse to target AAAs no matter what because they know it wouldn't do fucking anything
1302[28/12/2014, 2:26:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: my point is more "you think these are existing customers?"
1303[28/12/2014, 2:26:12 PM] Athena Hollow: and even if they DID, even if they were literally 200k people, that's still less than 1% of gamers
1304[28/12/2014, 2:26:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: When they boycotted my studio they were seriously asking what the studio made before claiming they'd cancel their preorders lol
1305[28/12/2014, 2:26:39 PM] Athena Hollow: (though we're all aware it's closer to maybe 1000 at this point - at best estimates - that are actually maybe gamers.
1306[28/12/2014, 2:26:41 PM] Ian Cheong: They're tortillas and the fact more journalists don't speak up about it is really pathetic
1307[28/12/2014, 2:26:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Toothless
1308[28/12/2014, 2:26:53 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahaha
1309[28/12/2014, 2:26:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: hehehe
1310[28/12/2014, 2:27:00 PM] Tesseract: AAAs could just piss all over them and gg would still buy their games. AAAs already piss all over them and gg still buys their games.
1311[28/12/2014, 2:27:08 PM] Athena Hollow: yup
1312[28/12/2014, 2:27:14 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the people who split their time between looking at child porn and mass mailing you via proxies PROBABLY pirate any games they actually play.
1313[28/12/2014, 2:27:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: You have to think of it like Pikmin.
1314[28/12/2014, 2:27:23 PM] Athena Hollow: And, even if they did, they seriously wouldn't hurt the bottom line
1315[28/12/2014, 2:27:32 PM] Athena Hollow: AND if they ostracize these fucks, they'll win over MORE people!
1316[28/12/2014, 2:27:46 PM] Athena Hollow: Less toxic assholes on multiplayer games? Sign me right the fuck up.
1317[28/12/2014, 2:28:16 PM] Alex Lifschitz: We're fucking broke and doing the things that billion dollar publishers are pissing their pants over
1318[28/12/2014, 2:28:18 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Pathetic
1319[28/12/2014, 2:28:37 PM] Athena Hollow: and yeah, they were already saying they'll just "procure" games from devs they don't like: https://archive.today/qfLnM
1320[28/12/2014, 2:28:55 PM] Ian Cheong: Valve remains quiet over their shitty community
1321[28/12/2014, 2:29:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, LoL has also been around longer than DotA2 and doesn't have such a terrible interface
1322[28/12/2014, 2:29:41 PM] Tesseract: why are gamer communities so invariably shit
1323[28/12/2014, 2:29:52 PM] Tesseract: what is it about talking about video games that brings out the shittiest in people
1324[28/12/2014, 2:30:14 PM] Athena Hollow: most of them are children?
1325[28/12/2014, 2:30:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: leaderboards.
1326[28/12/2014, 2:30:18 PM] Athena Hollow: ugh god.
1327[28/12/2014, 2:30:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: achievements
1328[28/12/2014, 2:30:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: there are toxic people but it isn't as common as it SEEMS like. in LoL for example, it takes 1 out of 10 people to be a complete ass and it makes you walk away from the game having a horrible experience
1329[28/12/2014, 2:31:00 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, I like achievement hunting - a lot - but not because I want to use it to show off. I do it because "Hey, here's extra ways for me to really enjoy this game!"
1330[28/12/2014, 2:31:07 PM] Athena Hollow: mini-goals, if you will.
1331[28/12/2014, 2:31:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: on this subject by the way, one of the many things I'm REALLY digging about HotS is that all experience is team-split
1332[28/12/2014, 2:32:10 PM] Tesseract: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/481281587/cheevos-the-movie-bboy360-reaching-100k-gamerscore CHEEVOS
1333[28/12/2014, 2:32:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: if someone keeps feeding kills, EVERYONE winds up down a level or 2, so the would-be A-holes seem to be too busy trying to recover to start yelling
1334[28/12/2014, 2:32:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: although the defeatist A-holes who totally try and pin their failings on everyone else are still an issue
1335[28/12/2014, 2:33:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Assholes are why I avoided wow for so long, and why I don't play on pvp servers.
1336[28/12/2014, 2:33:30 PM] Athena Hollow: Even knowing they were typically in the minority, there was just enough interaction for me to fucking hate them.
1337[28/12/2014, 2:33:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I kinda just hate competition in all forms, really
1338[28/12/2014, 2:33:49 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1339[28/12/2014, 2:33:52 PM] Dina : xD
1340[28/12/2014, 2:34:04 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I play a ton of RPGs, where everyone works together towards a common goal
1341[28/12/2014, 2:34:15 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I'm much more partial to co-op games.
1342[28/12/2014, 2:34:26 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I've really been digging the hell out of Sentinels of the Multiverse for a card game fix
1343[28/12/2014, 2:34:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: same deal there
1344[28/12/2014, 2:35:31 PM] Ian Cheong: I wish more games had coop
1345[28/12/2014, 2:35:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: my game I'm using as insulation because I suck at self-promotion is technically competetive, but it's so darn asymetrical and goofy I don't see anyone ever getting into a tournament mindset over it
1346[28/12/2014, 2:35:55 PM] Remy: I also wish coop was more popular with both players and developers
1347[28/12/2014, 2:36:12 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: coop tends to go into videogames in the worst ways though
1348[28/12/2014, 2:36:29 PM] Athena Hollow: I think that's why I like MMOs so much, at least those that don't have persistent pvp.
1349[28/12/2014, 2:36:40 PM] Athena Hollow: Because I can avoid the pvp and play coop with friends.
1350[28/12/2014, 2:36:53 PM] Remy: Unrelated, but I hope one day to try starting up a video game studio, but a coop instead of a corporation?
1351[28/12/2014, 2:36:54 PM] Athena Hollow: But beyond that, it's rare.
1352[28/12/2014, 2:36:54 PM] Dina : yeah fuck pvp
1353[28/12/2014, 2:36:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: eh, there's a lot of weird social pressure there
1354[28/12/2014, 2:37:09 PM] Dan Olson: cheeeeeeeevooos
1355[28/12/2014, 2:37:12 PM] Dina : social pressure in MMOs?
1356[28/12/2014, 2:37:13 PM] Athena Hollow: I play with my husband, so it's not so weird :)
1357[28/12/2014, 2:37:17 PM] Remy: I think it could help prevent the unfair work practices showing at Aaa studios
1358[28/12/2014, 2:37:22 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I can't name a lot of MMOs where it really works out if you play 20 hours a week and your friend plays 2
1359[28/12/2014, 2:37:26 PM] Dan Olson: we were talking aobut that... I won't say last night, since it was 5am this morning...
1360[28/12/2014, 2:37:27 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Man, hard rain gonna fall on ol' Ralph one of these days.
1361[28/12/2014, 2:37:31 PM] Dan Olson: Stephen
1362[28/12/2014, 2:37:35 PM] Athena Hollow: CoH was really good about that.
1363[28/12/2014, 2:37:37 PM] Athena Hollow: I miss it :-/
1364[28/12/2014, 2:37:41 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyone know if it's in poor taste to be consulting with multiple libel lawyers at once?
1365[28/12/2014, 2:37:42 PM] Dina : Alex it can't come soon enough tbh
1366[28/12/2014, 2:37:46 PM] Ian Cheong: Fucking Ralph
1367[28/12/2014, 2:37:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: CoH is one of the exceptions, yes
1368[28/12/2014, 2:37:55 PM] Dina : Ralph is a piece of shit
1369[28/12/2014, 2:37:55 PM] Athena Hollow: I would say do the same w/ Doctors.
1370[28/12/2014, 2:37:59 PM] Ian Cheong: I think he’s a scumbag
1371[28/12/2014, 2:38:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Star Wars Galaxies was also pretty cool like that
1372[28/12/2014, 2:38:05 PM] Dina : same, Ian
1373[28/12/2014, 2:38:07 PM] Dan Olson: Alex: no - it's basically expected in Law
1374[28/12/2014, 2:38:10 PM] Alex Lifschitz: We have one looking into a bunch of stuff right now, but I wanna chase down another.
1375[28/12/2014, 2:38:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: As soon as the holidays let up.
1376[28/12/2014, 2:38:24 PM] Dina : polylawyery
1377[28/12/2014, 2:38:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: since it wasnt really about linear progression, just sort of, crawling around between different levels of specialization in different skills
1378[28/12/2014, 2:38:36 PM] Athena Hollow: Apparently GuildWars 2 has that kind of thing too.
1379[28/12/2014, 2:38:42 PM] Athena Hollow: the level scaling.
1380[28/12/2014, 2:38:51 PM] Dan Olson: GW2 is odd, due to the level scaling.
1381[28/12/2014, 2:38:56 PM] Dan Olson: and some other design choices
1382[28/12/2014, 2:39:03 PM] Dina : FF14 is my personal favorite because it manages experience really well
1383[28/12/2014, 2:39:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so like, hey, you wanna kill people all day, cool, I'm really just here to socialize, but when your fatigue meter maxes out, just swing by this bar where I'm playing gigs and we can talk
1384[28/12/2014, 2:39:13 PM] Ian Cheong: Driving back home now
1385[28/12/2014, 2:39:14 PM] Dan Olson: every now and then I get into a kick and sink another 30+ hours into it
1386[28/12/2014, 2:39:18 PM] Dina : so it helps if you can't play as much as your friends
1387[28/12/2014, 2:39:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, but FF14 also has subscription fees
1388[28/12/2014, 2:39:51 PM] Remy: My husband and I tried to get back into FF14 when we both got our PS4s
1389[28/12/2014, 2:39:54 PM] Remy: But it just won't hold our interest
1390[28/12/2014, 2:39:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and requires like, non-pathetic hardware
1391[28/12/2014, 2:39:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: alex: would be shocked if consulting with multiple people is considered in bad taste. you're kind of expected to get multiple opinions for serious issues
1392[28/12/2014, 2:39:58 PM] Remy: Just feels so stale and grindy
1393[28/12/2014, 2:40:16 PM] Remy: And honestly I always feel so trapped in MMO's when you always end up bottlenecked into DPS/Tank/heal
1394[28/12/2014, 2:40:20 PM] Dina : true, SGG
1395[28/12/2014, 2:40:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Gonna give the second one a ring once January settles in.
1396[28/12/2014, 2:40:25 PM] Remy: so fucking stale
1397[28/12/2014, 2:40:28 PM] Athena Hollow: I really like SWTOR because I can play it all solo >_>
1398[28/12/2014, 2:40:29 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1399[28/12/2014, 2:40:40 PM] Dina : aw I love grinding
1400[28/12/2014, 2:40:42 PM] Remy: Like if I could get away with it I would make DPS/Tank/Heal illegal to say both as a player or as a developer
1401[28/12/2014, 2:40:47 PM] Dina : I guess that's the difference lol
1402[28/12/2014, 2:40:55 PM] Athena Hollow: that was one of the things I liked about Archeage.
1403[28/12/2014, 2:40:57 PM] Tesseract: ralph is probably entirely unprepared for anything legal and would crumble at the first sign of a lawsuit
1404[28/12/2014, 2:40:59 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Y'know, looking at all this Hotwheels stuff, I have a lot of shower arguments with myself over how to tackle it if, like, it ever came time to go on-the-record about stuff.
1405[28/12/2014, 2:41:01 PM] Dina : and I am a happy Tank lol
1406[28/12/2014, 2:41:04 PM] Athena Hollow: It had so many different builds and so many different ways of handling things.
1407[28/12/2014, 2:41:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I don't dislike grinding, but I need an endgame
1408[28/12/2014, 2:41:15 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what is ralph looking at legal issues over? i missed this
1409[28/12/2014, 2:41:27 PM] Remy: same.
1410[28/12/2014, 2:41:32 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Like, I will play DQ1
1411[28/12/2014, 2:41:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: If anyone ever asked me what I thought of him, I'd have to be sure to clarify that I'm only speaking in terms of what they've said. Some people, you just never know how the world may have failed them.
1412[28/12/2014, 2:42:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: DQ1 is this neat little puzzle where I'm trying to work out how to waste the least amount of time hitting the point where I can go kill the dragon lord
1413[28/12/2014, 2:42:04 PM] Remy: A lot of us have been failed by the world
1414[28/12/2014, 2:42:05 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Sarah, RE: Ralph, he's a piece of shit and I also probably have a strong libel case against him but being litigious isn't usually the best answer. Just investigating options.
1415[28/12/2014, 2:42:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and then I do, and head back to the castle, and people are all woo, have some end credits
1416[28/12/2014, 2:42:33 PM] Alex Lifschitz: All he cares about is his little spate of GG infamy, the only devastating thing to him would be to lose that.
1417[28/12/2014, 2:42:43 PM] Athena Hollow: So gag order?
1418[28/12/2014, 2:42:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: MMOs though, you just grind here so you can go grind over there, forever
1419[28/12/2014, 2:42:44 PM] SF: GW2 also has no "holy trinity". I really like it for that reason.
1420[28/12/2014, 2:42:46 PM] Athena Hollow: that'd be hilarious.
1421[28/12/2014, 2:42:52 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Hell no. Take him to the cleaners.
1422[28/12/2014, 2:42:57 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Pay for my fucking boat.
1423[28/12/2014, 2:42:59 PM] Remy: Alex I'd like you to consider the possibility that providing tangible real-word consequences for his actions may not only benefit Ralph but also many other people who need to see that example
1424[28/12/2014, 2:42:59 PM] Athena Hollow: hahahahaha
1425[28/12/2014, 2:43:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: being litigeous is the only answer with GG in my book
1426[28/12/2014, 2:43:22 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, we're absolutely chasing it down and I'm absolutely pulling the trigger if I have a slam-dunk case.
1427[28/12/2014, 2:43:32 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, they really need to get it into their heads that online is the same as offline.
1428[28/12/2014, 2:43:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: start suing and arresting people and suddenly the hordes get scared
1429[28/12/2014, 2:43:36 PM] Remy: When it comes down to it I feel like that's more important even than the money or even than the justice of having him see consequences for hurting you and your family
1430[28/12/2014, 2:43:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: are we allowed to know what he said this is about? or would you rather not say
1431[28/12/2014, 2:43:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and then maybe quit being terrible
1432[28/12/2014, 2:43:43 PM] Athena Hollow: And the only way to prove that is to hold them accountable for the things they say.
1433[28/12/2014, 2:43:50 PM] Remy: By starting the trend of showing public consequences it could help stem the tide of abuse
1434[28/12/2014, 2:43:57 PM] Tesseract: articles on theralphretort are like 3 paragraphs long lol
1435[28/12/2014, 2:44:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i wish bri would sue nero ;-;;
1436[28/12/2014, 2:44:07 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Just looking into him. He wrote some patently false shit about me and I'm still looking for a job so I can prove damages.
1437[28/12/2014, 2:44:13 PM] Tesseract: dude's like icer in that he's only popular because of a huge follower count he has for some baffling reason
1438[28/12/2014, 2:44:41 PM] Remy: Heh ^_^" yeah I was kinda going full steam but those are my two cents if you ever have the means motive and opportunity to sue him or anyone else who has participated in this
1439[28/12/2014, 2:44:53 PM] Tesseract: end him at the first opportunity
1440[28/12/2014, 2:45:02 PM] Remy: ^
1441[28/12/2014, 2:45:08 PM] Athena Hollow: I hate that you have to prove damages for those kinds of cases.
1442[28/12/2014, 2:45:13 PM] Remy: I'm with Tess on this
1443[28/12/2014, 2:45:20 PM] Athena Hollow: People shouldn't be legally allowed to just lie out their asses.
1444[28/12/2014, 2:45:31 PM] Remy: I'm not even bloodthirsty I just wanna see heads roll so everyone else knows how f*cking crazy they're being
1445[28/12/2014, 2:45:32 PM] Athena Hollow: That's not protected fucking speech. It's goddamn bold faced lies.
1446[28/12/2014, 2:45:35 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, bringing the heavy legal rain down is one of my three pillars for finally snuffing out GG.
1447[28/12/2014, 2:46:01 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ooh, what are the other two?
1448[28/12/2014, 2:46:08 PM] Dina : I would sue the shit out of IA,  MundaneDolt, RalphRetort and a series of backers if I was in the USA
1449[28/12/2014, 2:46:14 PM] SF: Is there a way we could be helping on those more tangible fronts? I still feel so impotent in this.
1450[28/12/2014, 2:46:21 PM] Dina : for a year of fucking hell
1451[28/12/2014, 2:46:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Bringing down their breeding grounds (8chan et al) and finally getting corporations to take a stand.
1452[28/12/2014, 2:46:29 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: series of backers eh?
1453[28/12/2014, 2:46:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: UK libel laws are amazing compared to the US, alex. if nero's ever libeled you or zoe you should totally look into that
1454[28/12/2014, 2:46:45 PM] Tesseract: personally I'm planning on going after their twitter e-celebs
1455[28/12/2014, 2:46:51 PM] SF: Problem is if the corps take a stand it's only because they know it's what we want to hear anyway.
1456[28/12/2014, 2:46:55 PM] Remy: Butts: They have
1457[28/12/2014, 2:46:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it's so bad they're trying to legislate change. "libel tourism" is a thing
1458[28/12/2014, 2:46:58 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, that's the second part. Litigating is a factor.
1459[28/12/2014, 2:46:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
1460[28/12/2014, 2:47:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah, that 3rd pillar seems pretty tricky
1461[28/12/2014, 2:47:18 PM] Alex Lifschitz: But it also takes years, and every day they're around and have a following is another day people in industry get marginalized.
1462[28/12/2014, 2:47:21 PM] Remy: And honestly for someone like Nero
1463[28/12/2014, 2:47:29 PM] Remy: Whose money is made on manufactured BS
1464[28/12/2014, 2:47:34 PM] Remy: Take him for ever goddam penny
1465[28/12/2014, 2:47:36 PM] Remy: Or pence
1466[28/12/2014, 2:47:38 PM] Remy: whatever
1467[28/12/2014, 2:47:43 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I'm not worried about Nero. If he publishes his book and it mentions Zoe at all, he's fucked on UK libel laws.
1468[28/12/2014, 2:48:04 PM] Tesseract: that fucking book, how many copies does he expect to sell
1469[28/12/2014, 2:48:06 PM] Alex Lifschitz: And her agents will probably be the first to take up sabers on that front. They do not fuck around.
1470[28/12/2014, 2:48:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: pretty sure he is already, several times over, regardless
1471[28/12/2014, 2:48:07 PM] Tesseract: five? ten?
1472[28/12/2014, 2:48:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... did anyone ever invite @knifehorse in here?
1473[28/12/2014, 2:48:19 PM] Tesseract: who?
1474[28/12/2014, 2:48:28 PM] Remy: dunno who that is
1475[28/12/2014, 2:48:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://cathodedebris.tumblr.com/post/96623884813/first-uses-of-the-gamergate-and-notyourshield
1476[28/12/2014, 2:48:40 PM] Remy: sounds like a badass pokemon tho
1477[28/12/2014, 2:48:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://cathodedebris.tumblr.com/post/102289586233/the-villans-of-gamergate-1-milo-yiannopoulos
1478[28/12/2014, 2:48:59 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Curious about his book, too. We think he's using the nazi thing to distance himself from GG, but it's also gonna destroy his readerbase because he's so dense as to still have no clue how fast they turn on anyone pledging less than absolute fealty to the movement.
1479[28/12/2014, 2:49:31 PM] Athena Hollow: Yep. That's exactly what I think as well.
1480[28/12/2014, 2:49:36 PM] Athena Hollow: He needs a big dramatic ending.
1481[28/12/2014, 2:49:37 PM] SF: I was expecting him to parachute out on a wedge issue, but yeah he's overestimating how fondly they remember people.
1482[28/12/2014, 2:49:39 PM] Tesseract: nero's kind of an anomaly in gg in that he seems like he knows what he's doing on some level as opposed to the others who just constantly piss themselves
1483[28/12/2014, 2:49:41 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Cool dude, been trying to anonymously compile dirt on big name GGers for the benefit of anyone trying to take them to court
1484[28/12/2014, 2:49:50 PM] Athena Hollow: He could have spun the CP stuff, NOT THIS though.
1485[28/12/2014, 2:49:54 PM] SF: Yeah Nero doesn't seem as emotionally invested.
1486[28/12/2014, 2:50:00 PM] Athena Hollow: especially after having been likened to anti-Semitism before.
1487[28/12/2014, 2:50:38 PM] Athena Hollow: Honestly I think his last few 'gamer' related articles have been to spit in their faces just to see how far he could take it
1488[28/12/2014, 2:50:50 PM] Athena Hollow: and when they didn't let up, he realized he was going to have to step away.
1489[28/12/2014, 2:51:08 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Watching Kluwe get to Nero and Cerno on the level of "come on, clearly you guys are in it for business" was great to watch
1490[28/12/2014, 2:51:10 PM] Athena Hollow: He raised a little cult and has no fucking clue how bad he's gonna get it when he runs.
1491[28/12/2014, 2:51:13 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Because of their tacit admission
1492[28/12/2014, 2:51:34 PM] Alex Lifschitz: GG is blood out. No leaving without getting curbstomped.
1493[28/12/2014, 2:51:48 PM] Athena Hollow: A bunch of little Norman Bates
1494[28/12/2014, 2:51:58 PM] Remy: With Cernovich it gets hard to tell just how much of this is business and how much of it is his obsession
1495[28/12/2014, 2:51:59 PM] Dina : What happened to Internet Aristocrat btw?
1496[28/12/2014, 2:51:59 PM] Alex Lifschitz: He got his pound of flesh in gullible latent archconservatives.
1497[28/12/2014, 2:52:17 PM] Alex Lifschitz: He kinda disappeared after turning on GG for being idiots.
1498[28/12/2014, 2:52:19 PM] Athena Hollow: I think it's both Stephen.
1499[28/12/2014, 2:52:20 PM] Tesseract: his twitter is back but I don't want to read it
1500[28/12/2014, 2:52:34 PM] Dina : oh I didn't even realized he deleted his Twitter
1501[28/12/2014, 2:52:36 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Nobody on 8chan talks about him anymore. It's all Sargon and Ralph.
1502[28/12/2014, 2:52:36 PM] Remy: I'm gonna be honest
1503[28/12/2014, 2:52:44 PM] Tesseract: internet aristocrat seemed to pretty much not give a shit for the majority of the the time he was even in gg
1504[28/12/2014, 2:52:49 PM] Dina : forgot about Sargon....
1505[28/12/2014, 2:52:54 PM] Remy: I watched that dude's big YT rant where he "outed" everyone in GG and I still don't understand WTF he was so angry about or what the hell was going on
1506[28/12/2014, 2:52:58 PM] Athena Hollow: Ugh. Sargon.
1507[28/12/2014, 2:53:08 PM] Alex Lifschitz: IA basically said "of course I was using you idiots for money" and they started infighting
1508[28/12/2014, 2:53:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: IA's done the whole disappearing thing before. i don't know WHAT his deal is honestly. like for example he went out of his way to never monetize his videos-- whatever he's in it for, it isn't money like ralph or sargon
1509[28/12/2014, 2:53:20 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: or MM
1510[28/12/2014, 2:53:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: nah, IA never made a cent AFAIK
1511[28/12/2014, 2:53:33 PM] Athena Hollow: Epic trolling?
1512[28/12/2014, 2:53:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: no patreon no youtube monetization
1513[28/12/2014, 2:53:40 PM] Tesseract: he also fingered his girlfriend on stream and since that involved a woman having sex gamergate got super fucking pissed
1514[28/12/2014, 2:53:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: nothing
1515[28/12/2014, 2:54:07 PM] Remy: That I hadn't heard, Tess
1516[28/12/2014, 2:54:11 PM] Dina : wait... he did?
1517[28/12/2014, 2:54:22 PM] Dina : Also, a woman let IA near her?
1518[28/12/2014, 2:54:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: IA pops in every now and again to monetize new antifeminist campaigns. He'll probably return in a scandal outside the games sphere.
1519[28/12/2014, 2:54:26 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1520[28/12/2014, 2:54:28 PM] Remy: lol Dina
1521[28/12/2014, 2:54:32 PM] Tesseract: it was the same stream that KoP dropped some holocaust denial shit
1522[28/12/2014, 2:54:33 PM] Remy: Remy wants a high five for that
1523[28/12/2014, 2:54:44 PM] Tesseract: said stream is infamous in gg
1524[28/12/2014, 2:54:51 PM] Dina : jfc
1525[28/12/2014, 2:54:55 PM] Athena Hollow: It was the beginning of the end lol
1526[28/12/2014, 2:55:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what had he monetized, alex? from what i heard he was pretty furious at people like MM/ralph/etc that were trying to makee money
1527[28/12/2014, 2:55:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Shit started speeding downhill from there.
1528[28/12/2014, 2:55:22 PM] Athena Hollow: That was the first time Milo made mention about starting to cut ties.
1529[28/12/2014, 2:55:34 PM] Athena Hollow: But then got a wild hair up his ass to make money off of it instead.
1530[28/12/2014, 2:55:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: IA got nearly a million views on his Quinnspiracy video. That's a couple grand.
1531[28/12/2014, 2:55:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: it wasn't monetized
1532[28/12/2014, 2:56:03 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: he had no YT partnership activated
1533[28/12/2014, 2:56:07 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Weird.
1534[28/12/2014, 2:56:08 PM] Dina : oh wow
1535[28/12/2014, 2:56:19 PM] Dina : I don't know if that makes it better or worse tbh
1536[28/12/2014, 2:56:23 PM] Ian Cheong: Huh
1537[28/12/2014, 2:56:24 PM] Remy: So that leaves either irrational obsession, personal vendetta, or both
1538[28/12/2014, 2:56:26 PM] Athena Hollow: In it to be a drama llama
1539[28/12/2014, 2:56:31 PM] Dina : lol
1540[28/12/2014, 2:56:32 PM] Athena Hollow: He's pretty anti-feminist
1541[28/12/2014, 2:56:36 PM] Alex Lifschitz: E-peen?
1542[28/12/2014, 2:56:41 PM] Athena Hollow: so he has personal reasons to be all up in that crazy shit.
1543[28/12/2014, 2:56:52 PM] Remy: Maybe trashing women on the internet is the only way he's ever felt popular or validated
1544[28/12/2014, 2:57:02 PM] Remy: People will fight just as hard for their own identity as they will money
1545[28/12/2014, 2:57:04 PM] Remy: Harder even
1546[28/12/2014, 2:57:06 PM] Athena Hollow: yup.
1547[28/12/2014, 2:57:24 PM] Ian Cheong: He disappeared after GG decided not to attack SJWs as much as he wanted them to
1548[28/12/2014, 2:57:34 PM] Athena Hollow: Didn't MM & him get into it
1549[28/12/2014, 2:58:00 PM] Athena Hollow: like really hardcore & he said "FUCK THIS SHIT!" and deleted everything?
1550[28/12/2014, 2:58:10 PM] Ian Cheong: Getting my laptop so I can type better
1551[28/12/2014, 2:58:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah IA was mad at 1) people making money and 2) the "ethics" concerns vs the SJW ones
1552[28/12/2014, 2:58:37 PM] Remy: I'm still processing that we managed to get that Foxigon dude to delete all of his pro-GamerGate tweets. That had to have taken him so fucking long, too
1553[28/12/2014, 2:58:46 PM] Tesseract: wait what
1554[28/12/2014, 2:58:50 PM] Remy: I hear he's getting back into the game already
1555[28/12/2014, 2:58:57 PM] Remy: But still, for like an hour and a half he left GamerGate
1556[28/12/2014, 2:59:11 PM] Athena Hollow: yep.
1557[28/12/2014, 2:59:20 PM] Dina : in many ways, IA was the most honest GG-er of them all
1558[28/12/2014, 2:59:33 PM] Athena Hollow: he was trying to court people to look through the ggblocker to find other devs & have them try to launch a lawsuit
1559[28/12/2014, 2:59:36 PM] Remy: But then Slade roped him into their next project
1560[28/12/2014, 2:59:37 PM] Athena Hollow: Of course, with Rogue endorsing it.
1561[28/12/2014, 3:00:12 PM] Remy: Their next project, by the way, is to spam everyone on the GGautoblocker list to find anyone who might be willing to claim to be a game developer wrongfully injured by the black list (please read: block list)
1562[28/12/2014, 3:00:48 PM] Remy: Or as I like to call it, Operation: Hey, Just How Many of Us Are Actually Real Game Developers, Anyway?
1563[28/12/2014, 3:00:50 PM] Athena Hollow: Too bad no fucking court in the world would see it that way since there are countless other ways in which you can contact someone else LOL and if you're associating w/ a toxic hate group on the internet, tough titty.
1564[28/12/2014, 3:00:56 PM] Dina : LMAO Stephen
1565[28/12/2014, 3:01:00 PM] Athena Hollow: LOL
1566[28/12/2014, 3:01:16 PM] Remy: Apparently they think if they get enough anime avatars to claim financial damage from being blocked on Twitter
1567[28/12/2014, 3:01:21 PM] Remy: 2: ...?
1568[28/12/2014, 3:01:21 PM] Athena Hollow: I mean, if they aren't sea lion assholes, they can petition.
1569[28/12/2014, 3:01:23 PM] Remy: 3: Profit!
1570[28/12/2014, 3:01:46 PM] Athena Hollow: Unless they lose their shit like that one dude did... something about someone dying because of the blocklist? I dont even know. Unstable nutball.
1571[28/12/2014, 3:01:54 PM] Remy: Hey, did Slade ever release his game on Christmas day like he promised?
1572[28/12/2014, 3:01:58 PM] Athena Hollow: I remember him claiming he was a "neutral reporter" originally
1573[28/12/2014, 3:01:59 PM] Athena Hollow: HAH
1574[28/12/2014, 3:02:03 PM] Athena Hollow: nooooooppppppppppeeeeeeeeee
1575[28/12/2014, 3:02:15 PM] Dina : 9____9
1576[28/12/2014, 3:04:45 PM] Ian Cheong: Ralph released a bunch of articles attacking me, Jim Sterling and Leigh Alexander over Christmas. They weren't particularly well received by KIA.
1577[28/12/2014, 3:04:58 PM] Ian Cheong: Jim's article isn't up yet, I don't think.
1578[28/12/2014, 3:04:58 PM] Peter Coffin: interesting
1579[28/12/2014, 3:05:09 PM] Ian Cheong: But he says he plans to release an attack post on Jim before New Years.
1580[28/12/2014, 3:05:25 PM] SF: I think we're just overestimating IA.
1581[28/12/2014, 3:05:36 PM] SF: He's acting on emotion and probably has no particular plan.
1582[28/12/2014, 3:05:48 PM] Athena Hollow: But yeah, if you wanna see someone overestimating the impact of the blocker, behold your eyes on this shit: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ggautoblocker-appeals/GFGPSkuhSjw
1583
1584Schalart = avoidddddddddd
1585[28/12/2014, 3:05:58 PM] SF: If he had a plan he wouldn't pick on tweens on tumblr, he'd shoot higher.
1586[28/12/2014, 3:05:59 PM] Ian Cheong: IA has a tendency to flounce whenever he gets popular.
1587[28/12/2014, 3:06:06 PM] Remy: How old is IA even?
1588[28/12/2014, 3:06:10 PM] Tesseract: 12
1589[28/12/2014, 3:06:11 PM] Ian Cheong: He's in his 30s.
1590[28/12/2014, 3:06:14 PM] Remy: I didn't get the impression he was an adult?
1591[28/12/2014, 3:06:17 PM] SF: Holy
1592[28/12/2014, 3:06:20 PM] Dina : 13
1593[28/12/2014, 3:06:21 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, he's older than I am, I know that much
1594[28/12/2014, 3:06:25 PM] Remy: weird.
1595[28/12/2014, 3:06:27 PM] Ian Cheong: He's older than me.
1596[28/12/2014, 3:06:27 PM] Dina : WHAT
1597[28/12/2014, 3:06:33 PM] Tesseract: hence "manchild"
1598[28/12/2014, 3:06:35 PM] Dina : he's older than me?!!
1599[28/12/2014, 3:06:39 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1600[28/12/2014, 3:06:40 PM] Ian Cheong: Yes.
1601[28/12/2014, 3:06:41 PM] Peter Coffin: if he’s older than 30 he’s older than me
1602[28/12/2014, 3:06:49 PM] Athena Hollow: hence - him fingering a woman on youtube =/= child porn lol
1603[28/12/2014, 3:06:59 PM] Ian Cheong: He fingered Jaydefox on youtube
1604[28/12/2014, 3:07:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl is older than everyone here
1605[28/12/2014, 3:07:23 PM] Remy: I didn't know YT even allowed that kind of material
1606[28/12/2014, 3:07:31 PM] Athena Hollow: it was like, off cameraish i believe.
1607[28/12/2014, 3:07:36 PM] Athena Hollow: they didn't full on show it.
1608[28/12/2014, 3:07:45 PM] Ian Cheong: it was on voice
1609[28/12/2014, 3:07:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: you sweet summer child?
1610[28/12/2014, 3:07:57 PM] Athena Hollow: well there we go.
1611[28/12/2014, 3:08:01 PM] Remy: Seems like some high-rate attention-seeking behavior
1612[28/12/2014, 3:08:03 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah I had heard you couldn't see it
1613[28/12/2014, 3:08:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Jaydefox made up a story about how she got doxxed (eh?) and harassed by anti-GG women when she first released her video supporting GG. That claim propelled her to fame among GG.
1614[28/12/2014, 3:08:09 PM] Athena Hollow: but i didnt know how it went for sure
1615[28/12/2014, 3:08:10 PM] Ian Cheong: I think she is full of shit.
1616[28/12/2014, 3:08:12 PM] Remy: If they want to be exhibitionists I think there are websites for that
1617[28/12/2014, 3:08:21 PM] Athena Hollow: you're probably right
1618[28/12/2014, 3:08:27 PM] Dina : wait he fingered Jaydefox on YT?
1619[28/12/2014, 3:08:32 PM] Dina : is she his gf??
1620[28/12/2014, 3:08:36 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah in the drunk stream.
1621[28/12/2014, 3:08:37 PM] Ian Cheong: yes
1622[28/12/2014, 3:08:39 PM] Ian Cheong: shes his girlfriend
1623[28/12/2014, 3:08:41 PM] Tesseract: it was her?
1624[28/12/2014, 3:08:43 PM] Tesseract: hah
1625[28/12/2014, 3:08:47 PM] Athena Hollow: Then again, I personally think a lot of the shit they say is bullshit because it's more their modus operandi than anyone else's.
1626[28/12/2014, 3:08:57 PM] Ian Cheong: meanwhile KOP's girlfriend kept saying AYYYYYY LMAO on the stream and annoying everyone
1627[28/12/2014, 3:09:02 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1628[28/12/2014, 3:09:16 PM] Ian Cheong: These people are such degenerates.
1629[28/12/2014, 3:09:21 PM] Dina : equal opportunity annoying
1630[28/12/2014, 3:09:23 PM] Dina : great.
1631[28/12/2014, 3:10:08 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-30614627
1632[28/12/2014, 3:10:10 PM] Ian Cheong: this sucks.
1633[28/12/2014, 3:10:18 PM] Ian Cheong: plane crashed on the way to singapore
1634[28/12/2014, 3:10:38 PM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, how the fuck does this keep happening?!
1635[28/12/2014, 3:10:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: "it has come to my attention that the government of canada didn't send the whitelist request re. . my name."
1636[28/12/2014, 3:10:54 PM] Remy: I don't get it how does AYYYY LMAO become a verbal thing
1637[28/12/2014, 3:11:07 PM] Tesseract: I don't want to pronounce lmao out loud
1638[28/12/2014, 3:11:13 PM] Remy: Good
1639[28/12/2014, 3:11:18 PM] Remy: That's how you know you're still a good person
1640[28/12/2014, 3:11:21 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1641[28/12/2014, 3:11:23 PM] Remy: Never lose sight of that
1642[28/12/2014, 3:11:26 PM] Peter Coffin: ayyyyyy would only be acceptable if it was followed by “must be the money"
1643[28/12/2014, 3:11:31 PM] Tesseract: I only started using lol and lmao online as part of my weird twitter persona
1644[28/12/2014, 3:11:33 PM] Athena Hollow: or smacking a jukebox
1645[28/12/2014, 3:11:41 PM] Remy: Peter gets internet high fives for that
1646[28/12/2014, 3:11:42 PM] Tesseract: apparently that makes a strikethrough
1647[28/12/2014, 3:12:02 PM] Remy: I need to make some lemonade
1648[28/12/2014, 3:12:08 PM] Remy: I don't know why I typed that out
1649[28/12/2014, 3:12:15 PM] Remy: That has zero relevance to anybody here
1650[28/12/2014, 3:12:24 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1651[28/12/2014, 3:12:26 PM] Ian Cheong: ayyyy lmao
1652[28/12/2014, 3:12:35 PM] Remy: I'm sorry. I'm high. I need to step away from the keyboard right meow
1653[28/12/2014, 3:12:39 PM] Ian Cheong: ayyy lmao
1654[28/12/2014, 3:12:49 PM] Ian Cheong: Ian Cheong gets booted from chat for saying ayyyy lmao too much
1655[28/12/2014, 3:12:51 PM] Athena Hollow: goddammit ian. i am sick. quit making me laugh.
1656[28/12/2014, 3:12:57 PM] Dina : ok wait do you pronounce each letter of LMAO?
1657[28/12/2014, 3:13:00 PM] Remy: XD
1658[28/12/2014, 3:13:04 PM] Ian Cheong: ellemayoh
1659[28/12/2014, 3:13:07 PM] Tesseract: l'mayo
1660[28/12/2014, 3:13:08 PM] Remy: Elemayoh
1661[28/12/2014, 3:13:09 PM] Remy: lol
1662[28/12/2014, 3:13:09 PM] Dina : or just kinda mash the letters together like you would read a word
1663[28/12/2014, 3:13:17 PM] Athena Hollow: omg why.
1664[28/12/2014, 3:13:19 PM] Remy: It's elemayo, my dear Watson
1665[28/12/2014, 3:13:24 PM] Remy: Top Kek indeed, holmes
1666[28/12/2014, 3:13:25 PM] Ian Cheong: hahahaha
1667[28/12/2014, 3:13:26 PM] Dina : ...
1668[28/12/2014, 3:13:27 PM] Tesseract: pff
1669[28/12/2014, 3:13:28 PM] Dina : LOL
1670[28/12/2014, 3:13:38 PM] Ian Cheong: the toppest of keks, good sir
1671[28/12/2014, 3:13:41 PM] Remy: okay now I have to shut up
1672[28/12/2014, 3:13:42 PM] Athena Hollow: I say "lulz" when I'm specifically referring to "someone was an asshole for the lulz" but that's it.
1673[28/12/2014, 3:13:49 PM] Athena Hollow: the rest is just... god...no... set it on fire.
1674[28/12/2014, 3:13:50 PM] Quinnae: Back for a little bit during anime intermission.
1675[28/12/2014, 3:13:58 PM] Quinnae: How are you adorable dorks?
1676[28/12/2014, 3:14:03 PM] Remy: Just being adorable dorks
1677[28/12/2014, 3:14:11 PM] Athena Hollow: setting net speak on fire?
1678[28/12/2014, 3:14:59 PM] Dina : Kath <3
1679[28/12/2014, 3:15:14 PM] Athena Hollow: alrighty I need to try and get some sleep as i am feel like deth.
1680[28/12/2014, 3:15:19 PM] Quinnae: Aww, hi Dina
1681[28/12/2014, 3:15:31 PM] Ian Cheong: So my cousin got me a pipe and some high quality tobacco for Christmas
1682[28/12/2014, 3:15:34 PM] Ian Cheong: im going to smoke that later.
1683[28/12/2014, 3:15:52 PM] Dina : #whitetrustfundbaby
1684[28/12/2014, 3:15:58 PM] Athena Hollow: lol
1685[28/12/2014, 3:16:00 PM] Quinnae: Sounds delightful, Ian.
1686[28/12/2014, 3:16:02 PM] Athena Hollow: night everyone <3
1687[28/12/2014, 3:16:06 PM] Ian Cheong: cya athena
1688[28/12/2014, 3:16:07 PM] Remy: ugh
1689[28/12/2014, 3:16:12 PM] Quinnae: Were you talking to me, Dina? Because apparently that's what I am.
1690[28/12/2014, 3:16:19 PM] Quinnae: Nini, Athena.
1691[28/12/2014, 3:16:23 PM] Remy: Like, as far as who I am as a person I am SOOO glad I did not grow up a trust fund baby
1692[28/12/2014, 3:16:24 PM] Dina : Night, Athena!
1693[28/12/2014, 3:16:30 PM] Dina : Kath, you and me both
1694[28/12/2014, 3:16:43 PM] Remy: But then there are those days I wish I grew up with all that sweet nutrition and health care and financial support structure and I'm like
1695[28/12/2014, 3:16:48 PM] Remy: Fuck being a good person I wish I was born rich
1696[28/12/2014, 3:16:52 PM] Ian Cheong: Gators think we're all rich trust fund babies because it enables them to 'punch up' so to speak
1697[28/12/2014, 3:16:57 PM] Dina : also when they realized I was arab they changed the narrative to LITERALLY "her oil tycoon daddy bought her her job"
1698[28/12/2014, 3:17:10 PM] Dina : sent a file to this group:
1699スクリーンショット 2014-11-26 11.59.58.png
1700[28/12/2014, 3:17:12 PM] Remy: wow
1701[28/12/2014, 3:17:22 PM] Remy: So they went super racist as soon as they saw an opening
1702[28/12/2014, 3:17:31 PM] Dina : I have a few more hilarious screen caps hehe
1703[28/12/2014, 3:17:41 PM] drinternetphd: all of our fathers are rich somehow
1704[28/12/2014, 3:17:46 PM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549101762812989440
1705[28/12/2014, 3:17:50 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup.
1706[28/12/2014, 3:17:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i didn't have the heart to keep looking up the shit they were digging up on me :\
1707[28/12/2014, 3:17:58 PM] Remy: I wish there was a way to unpack that stereotype
1708[28/12/2014, 3:18:04 PM] Remy: "They disagree with me. Therefore they must be rich"
1709[28/12/2014, 3:18:11 PM] Remy: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
1710[28/12/2014, 3:18:18 PM] Ian Cheong: I remember early on they said your family was one of the New York aristocracy, Zoe.
1711[28/12/2014, 3:18:23 PM] Ian Cheong: Like Anderson Cooper's family
1712[28/12/2014, 3:18:26 PM] Ian Cheong: 'old money'
1713[28/12/2014, 3:18:38 PM] Peter Coffin: one tried to argue with me on that very point, i told them I have two full-time jobs and they redirected to say I was working too much and should spend more time with my family
1714[28/12/2014, 3:18:53 PM] Peter Coffin: morons
1715[28/12/2014, 3:19:19 PM] Remy: I actually already figured out Zoe. She's the real Lindberg baby but the baby fell through a time warp
1716[28/12/2014, 3:19:37 PM] Remy: Did you ever see the South Park episode where Cartman froze himself b/c he couldn't wait for the Wii to release?
1717[28/12/2014, 3:19:40 PM] drinternetphd: stop writing anime at me
1718[28/12/2014, 3:19:40 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: key thing- Never assume they actually believe their own words
1719[28/12/2014, 3:19:42 PM] Ian Cheong: I wish I was rich as fuck. I would destroy gamergate with lawyers.
1720[28/12/2014, 3:19:42 PM] Remy: Basically that ensued
1721[28/12/2014, 3:19:45 PM] Tesseract: yesterday leopirate and pals spun this elaborate story about me arguing about gamergate with my family over christmas dinner somehow
1722[28/12/2014, 3:19:59 PM] Tesseract: the worst I've seen is a gger claiming randi sold her kid for meth lol
1723[28/12/2014, 3:20:02 PM] Remy: lol I'm sorry Zoe
1724[28/12/2014, 3:20:06 PM] Remy: I'll stop ^_^"
1725[28/12/2014, 3:20:18 PM] Quinnae: Write anime about me instead.
1726[28/12/2014, 3:20:22 PM] drinternetphd: ^
1727[28/12/2014, 3:20:26 PM] Tesseract: or alex's dad being some sort of powerful israeli warlord
1728[28/12/2014, 3:20:28 PM] Remy: :3
1729[28/12/2014, 3:20:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: What if I write anime about Katherine TO Zoe?
1730[28/12/2014, 3:20:39 PM] drinternetphd: and I am apparently a rooservelt heiress
1731[28/12/2014, 3:20:47 PM] Peter Coffin: that would be fun
1732[28/12/2014, 3:21:15 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Zoe: int. bedroom- Katherine has overslept and dresses in a hurry. Cut to kitchen. Katherine: "I'm late!" closeup of toast in mouth...
1733[28/12/2014, 3:21:23 PM] drinternetphd: in the mother of all coincidences, a lady who works on that common core thing has the last name van valkenburg quinn
1734[28/12/2014, 3:21:25 PM] Dina : the racism is strong with GG
1735[28/12/2014, 3:21:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Wow Zoe.
1736[28/12/2014, 3:21:47 PM] drinternetphd: yeah dude.
1737[28/12/2014, 3:21:50 PM] drinternetphd: not related to me at all
1738[28/12/2014, 3:21:51 PM] Peter Coffin: great scott
1739[28/12/2014, 3:21:55 PM] Ian Cheong: That is... serendipitous.
1740[28/12/2014, 3:22:02 PM] drinternetphd: I feel so sorry for her
1741[28/12/2014, 3:22:08 PM] Remy: right?
1742[28/12/2014, 3:22:13 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the thing I love about "common core" conspiracy theories is how clearly their adherents have no idea whatsoever what they're talking about
1743[28/12/2014, 3:22:15 PM] drinternetphd: also they're using it as an excuse to dig into my family again
1744[28/12/2014, 3:22:21 PM] drinternetphd: so that sucks a bit
1745[28/12/2014, 3:22:22 PM] Remy: Don't they already have some weird obsession with tying "cultural marxism" to Common Core?
1746[28/12/2014, 3:22:26 PM] drinternetphd: yes
1747[28/12/2014, 3:22:34 PM] Remy: Like... I never saw that one coming
1748[28/12/2014, 3:22:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: like, even by the standards conspiracy theorists normally have no clue, those ones are something special
1749[28/12/2014, 3:22:41 PM] drinternetphd: I sitll don't know what cultural marxism is
1750[28/12/2014, 3:22:47 PM] Remy: I figured it out Zoe
1751[28/12/2014, 3:22:52 PM] Remy: It's Captain Planet
1752[28/12/2014, 3:22:54 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: OK like
1753[28/12/2014, 3:22:54 PM] Quinnae: SGG, I approve.
1754[28/12/2014, 3:22:58 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: its Marxism
1755[28/12/2014, 3:23:03 PM] Ian Cheong: Cultural marxism is the idea that SJWs want to pacify the human race in order to subjugate them and take away their freedoms.
1756[28/12/2014, 3:23:03 PM] Remy: Remember when Ted Turner went all out on making multicultural cartoons?
1757[28/12/2014, 3:23:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but you know, cultural
1758[28/12/2014, 3:23:04 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s not something to anyone who isn’t a fucking idiot
1759[28/12/2014, 3:23:10 PM] Tesseract: cultural marxism is the belief that progressivism was engineered by the "frankfurt school" instead of developing organically
1760[28/12/2014, 3:23:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so it freaks out the Zentradi
1761[28/12/2014, 3:23:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and then they fight back by making out with eachother
1762[28/12/2014, 3:23:48 PM] Ian Cheong: progressivism is a blight upon society and hard working men, who have their art and creativity stifled by SJws
1763[28/12/2014, 3:23:56 PM] Remy: lol
1764[28/12/2014, 3:24:05 PM] Peter Coffin: let’s reverse it
1765[28/12/2014, 3:24:06 PM] Dina : I remember the Palestine/Israeli conflict captain planet
1766[28/12/2014, 3:24:09 PM] Peter Coffin: cultural meritocracy
1767[28/12/2014, 3:24:10 PM] Ian Cheong: I can do this all day.
1768[28/12/2014, 3:24:16 PM] Dina : that was so weird and a bit too real for me as a kid
1769[28/12/2014, 3:24:24 PM] Remy: :(
1770[28/12/2014, 3:24:36 PM] Peter Coffin: literally to be culture in a cultural meritocracy, one would have to earn it
1771[28/12/2014, 3:24:42 PM] Remy: lol
1772[28/12/2014, 3:24:51 PM] Remy: But the only way to earn it is if a white man says so
1773[28/12/2014, 3:24:59 PM] Dina : all hail the white man
1774[28/12/2014, 3:25:02 PM] Remy: Like it has to be written down that way just to be balls-out honest about it
1775[28/12/2014, 3:25:04 PM] Dina : why do I keep dating white men
1776[28/12/2014, 3:25:06 PM] Peter Coffin: but it’s distortable, so anything that is already culture can define what is and isn’t culture
1777[28/12/2014, 3:25:06 PM] Dina : help
1778[28/12/2014, 3:25:23 PM] Peter Coffin: meritocracy pisses me the fuck off
1779[28/12/2014, 3:25:25 PM] Remy: Because they can Jedi mind trick cops into leaving them alone
1780[28/12/2014, 3:25:52 PM] Remy: Or maybe you've received too much cultural messaging designed to promote the white man as an object of desire / envy?
1781[28/12/2014, 3:26:14 PM] Ian Cheong: This is too real Stephen
1782[28/12/2014, 3:26:21 PM] Remy: I can't tell if you're being sarcastic
1783[28/12/2014, 3:26:28 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm not.
1784[28/12/2014, 3:26:30 PM] Dina : Stephen sounds about right
1785[28/12/2014, 3:26:38 PM] Peter Coffin: merit doesn’t mean accomplishment, that is the problem. merit means “the quality of being worthy” which is completely subjective
1786[28/12/2014, 3:26:41 PM] Dina : especially since I come from an ex-french colony
1787[28/12/2014, 3:27:08 PM] Peter Coffin: to ggers, worthy means “has money to employ PR"
1788[28/12/2014, 3:27:21 PM] Peter Coffin: i.e. has been successful in the past
1789[28/12/2014, 3:27:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ugh
1790[28/12/2014, 3:27:28 PM] Peter Coffin: meaning accomplishment is irrelevant
1791[28/12/2014, 3:27:42 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't know why my dad insists on turning on the TV when we have guests over.
1792[28/12/2014, 3:27:47 PM] Peter Coffin: maybe they were once “worthy” based on merit, but they are already something
1793[28/12/2014, 3:28:01 PM] Peter Coffin: that is my problem with meritocracy and capitalism
1794[28/12/2014, 3:28:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Like come on, it's distracting, turn it off.
1795[28/12/2014, 3:28:12 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this sort of thing always bums me out
1796[28/12/2014, 3:28:14 PM] Peter Coffin: it’s soooooooooo distortable
1797[28/12/2014, 3:28:18 PM] Dina : Ian sounds like my family lol
1798[28/12/2014, 3:28:42 PM] Ian Cheong: Now he's watching Dog Whisperer
1799[28/12/2014, 3:29:08 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I am way too poor with way too many Old Money neighbors to deal with talking about where people get their cash.
1800[28/12/2014, 3:31:07 PM] Tesseract: https://monitor.wildfireapp.com/count_reports/display?googleplus=&facebook=&twitter=PlayDangerously lol
1801[28/12/2014, 3:31:55 PM] Ian Cheong: he bought his folloewrs.
1802[28/12/2014, 3:31:58 PM] Dina : what am I looking at?
1803[28/12/2014, 3:32:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: what the heck happened on the 19th?
1804[28/12/2014, 3:32:41 PM] Ian Cheong: https://www.twitteraudit.com/PlayDangerously
1805[28/12/2014, 3:32:56 PM] Ian Cheong: 6000 folloewrs are fake
1806[28/12/2014, 3:33:16 PM] Ian Cheong: contrast that to zoe's
1807[28/12/2014, 3:33:20 PM] Ian Cheong: https://www.twitteraudit.com/thequinnspiracy
1808[28/12/2014, 3:33:36 PM] Remy: lol no way
1809[28/12/2014, 3:33:40 PM] Ian Cheong: she has 2.x times as many followers and only 7% are fake.
1810[28/12/2014, 3:33:42 PM] Remy: Cernovich bought followers?
1811[28/12/2014, 3:33:47 PM] Tesseract: probably yes
1812[28/12/2014, 3:33:56 PM] Tesseract: https://storify.com/SJWIlluminati/what-are-jokes relevant
1813[28/12/2014, 3:33:58 PM] Ian Cheong: the increase in folloewrs does not look organic
1814[28/12/2014, 3:34:04 PM] Remy: I'm not going to assume we have "proof" but I'll believe your educated guess
1815[28/12/2014, 3:34:34 PM] Quinnae: analyses herself
1816[28/12/2014, 3:34:40 PM] Quinnae: crosses fingers nervously
1817[28/12/2014, 3:34:46 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i...
1818[28/12/2014, 3:34:47 PM] Tesseract: the straight line starts at 11k and ends at 23k
1819[28/12/2014, 3:34:48 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i glanced at that
1820[28/12/2014, 3:34:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and read
1821[28/12/2014, 3:34:51 PM] Dina : something weird happened to @andrewvestal where he went from 900 followers to 12k
1822[28/12/2014, 3:34:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I'm still incredibly weirded out that I have 700+
1823[28/12/2014, 3:34:55 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: katherine fingers herself nervously
1824[28/12/2014, 3:34:57 PM] Dina : and he was like WTF HELP
1825[28/12/2014, 3:35:11 PM] Ian Cheong: bots ofllowed him, dina?
1826[28/12/2014, 3:35:12 PM] Dina : "fingers herself"? o_O
1827[28/12/2014, 3:35:18 PM] Dina : yeah Ian
1828[28/12/2014, 3:35:20 PM] Tesseract: so twitter audit says he has 6k fake followers while in actuality he has around 12k or more
1829[28/12/2014, 3:35:35 PM] Remy: lol Katherine did you just audit yourself?
1830[28/12/2014, 3:35:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: cause "analyses herself" and "crosses fingers nervously" ;-;;
1831[28/12/2014, 3:35:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: my mind took words from each
1832[28/12/2014, 3:35:55 PM] Quinnae: Heh
1833[28/12/2014, 3:35:56 PM] Dina : oooh Sarah
1834[28/12/2014, 3:35:57 PM] Quinnae: Yes, I did.
1835[28/12/2014, 3:36:00 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I still get all weird when I hear people mention Andrew Vestal
1836[28/12/2014, 3:36:01 PM] Quinnae: Was that a bad thing?
1837[28/12/2014, 3:36:06 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha
1838[28/12/2014, 3:36:11 PM] Dina : why SGG? ._.
1839[28/12/2014, 3:36:12 PM] Remy: no
1840[28/12/2014, 3:36:19 PM] Remy: But I saw it pop up in the queue and I wanted to giggle that I noticed
1841[28/12/2014, 3:36:22 PM] Quinnae: Whew, only 4% are fake.
1842[28/12/2014, 3:36:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: weird personal history crap
1843[28/12/2014, 3:36:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i had 10 when this started and 3.2k now x-x
1844[28/12/2014, 3:36:44 PM] Dina : oh I'm sorry
1845[28/12/2014, 3:36:45 PM] Remy: Is it weird that I wanna block/force-unfollow the fake ones?
1846[28/12/2014, 3:37:01 PM] Dina : same Stephen
1847[28/12/2014, 3:37:05 PM] Dina : someone audit me please
1848[28/12/2014, 3:37:18 PM] Dina : I have quite a few slave accounts follow me because of my name
1849[28/12/2014, 3:37:27 PM] Dina : and I'm like no... you guys.... no....
1850[28/12/2014, 3:37:36 PM] Ian Cheong: aww haha
1851[28/12/2014, 3:37:39 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
1852[28/12/2014, 3:37:41 PM] Ian Cheong: those poor subs
1853[28/12/2014, 3:38:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i have a fetlife profile i log in to check every 3 months. i'm listed as a lesbian. all i get are messages from guys asking if i want to hook up or OCCASIONALLY someoone asking if i want to have sex with their wife when they watch
1854[28/12/2014, 3:38:33 PM] Ian Cheong: now my dad is watching some shitty police show where they're arresting people for possession of weed.
1855[28/12/2014, 3:38:34 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i don't think they get how the lesbian thing works
1856[28/12/2014, 3:38:43 PM] Ian Cheong: and in my mind im thinking, man, thats such a bullshit reason to arrest someone
1857[28/12/2014, 3:38:53 PM] Remy: Do they not realize there are websites with videos?
1858[28/12/2014, 3:38:59 PM] SF: Are there any hookup sites where girls can exist
1859[28/12/2014, 3:39:10 PM] Remy: lol
1860[28/12/2014, 3:39:21 PM] SF: Without being dogpiled by bros
1861[28/12/2014, 3:39:38 PM] Ian Cheong: dogpiled by bros sounds like a porno
1862[28/12/2014, 3:39:39 PM] Remy: Asking for a hookup site where girls exist is like growing an apple tree on Titan and complaining it doesn't taste right.
1863[28/12/2014, 3:39:46 PM] SF: I'm not joking I would like to find hot locals in my area free iPad
1864[28/12/2014, 3:40:04 PM] Remy: Like... the atmosphere is Methane, what are you gonna do. Toxic environment
1865[28/12/2014, 3:40:33 PM] Remy: In the end we have to attack at the source
1866[28/12/2014, 3:40:40 PM] SF: I bet it's even worse for straight women because they don't have the queer scene.
1867[28/12/2014, 3:40:45 PM] SF: So it's like having sex in a minefield.
1868[28/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] Remy: And get rid of this shitty "boys will be boys" relaxed attitude about letting men slide off the hook with violent behavior
1869[28/12/2014, 3:40:57 PM] SF: manfield
1870[28/12/2014, 3:41:08 PM] Remy: lol
1871[28/12/2014, 3:41:33 PM] Peter Coffin: wow, how are 2454 of my followers fake
1872[28/12/2014, 3:41:49 PM] SF: You have 5x as many fake followers as I have real ones.
1873[28/12/2014, 3:41:51 PM] Peter Coffin: 9574 real, so I’m not worried, but that is a lot of fake
1874[28/12/2014, 3:42:05 PM] Peter Coffin: tee hee
1875[28/12/2014, 3:42:30 PM] Dina : holy hell
1876[28/12/2014, 3:42:50 PM] Dina : dudes on dating sites are the reason I don't use dating sites
1877[28/12/2014, 3:42:53 PM] Dina : jfc
1878[28/12/2014, 3:43:00 PM] Peter Coffin: saynomore saynomore
1879[28/12/2014, 3:43:05 PM] Remy: Hmm :/ well your work is more around YT which thrives on advertising and exposure so maybe bots with the same kind of conditions would coalesce around your account Peter
1880[28/12/2014, 3:43:05 PM] Dina : well, straight dudes tbf
1881[28/12/2014, 3:43:29 PM] Peter Coffin: could be
1882[28/12/2014, 3:43:31 PM] Remy: Like... entertainment biz is always going to draw ad interest
1883[28/12/2014, 3:43:36 PM] Quinnae: hugs Dina Sorry.
1884[28/12/2014, 3:43:38 PM] Remy: and the spam bots that follow
1885[28/12/2014, 3:43:51 PM] SF: No why do I have to look at TB's stupid hat when I'm buying Nidhogg argh
1886[28/12/2014, 3:43:54 PM] Quinnae: I'm lucky in that I benefitted from OKC screening heterosexual men away due to how I set my orientation.
1887[28/12/2014, 3:44:00 PM] Dina : "Hi you have such a nice body let's go for coffee" <- best option
1888[28/12/2014, 3:44:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: heh
1889[28/12/2014, 3:44:13 PM] Remy: I had the worst luck on OKCupid
1890[28/12/2014, 3:44:15 PM] Dina : how do I even respond to that
1891[28/12/2014, 3:44:25 PM] Peter Coffin: I read straight guy on dating site shaming blogs, so I totally get where you are going with this
1892[28/12/2014, 3:44:46 PM] SF: Did you see the one where the girl responded to every guy with Horse_ebooks quotes
1893[28/12/2014, 3:44:49 PM] SF: And they couldn't tell
1894[28/12/2014, 3:44:53 PM] Dina : Ihonestly prefer the more straightforward "a/s/l" of yore
1895[28/12/2014, 3:44:55 PM] SF: And would hold long conversations with a robot horse
1896[28/12/2014, 3:45:02 PM] Remy: Weird thing about OKCupid is I think I was approached by women more when my profile said "Gay" than when it said "Bi"
1897[28/12/2014, 3:45:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I suppose the response to that is "Will you hold something black against me?"
1898[28/12/2014, 3:45:21 PM] Peter Coffin: I don’t know how but I read bi as FBI
1899[28/12/2014, 3:45:23 PM] Remy: Like for some reason I got the impression that "Bi" was considered a weird negative
1900[28/12/2014, 3:45:29 PM] Peter Coffin: and I was like “maybe they were just criminals"
1901[28/12/2014, 3:45:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: or however you like your coffee
1902[28/12/2014, 3:46:06 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: There's no real answer that isn't going to come off dirty though
1903[28/12/2014, 3:46:08 PM] SF: "Bi" felt dirty before I was a girl. Now it like, makes me cool or something. It's kind of sad.
1904[28/12/2014, 3:46:34 PM] Dina : SF loool
1905[28/12/2014, 3:46:42 PM] SF: Except the part where I have to play it down because there are very few guys I'm into and I'm worried the wider open the door is the more creeped on I'll get.
1906[28/12/2014, 3:46:54 PM] Dina : Stephen I would never list Bi on my dating profile
1907[28/12/2014, 3:47:09 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
1908[28/12/2014, 3:47:17 PM] Dina : Bi woman is the invitation to some really gross shit
1909[28/12/2014, 3:47:33 PM] Dina : aka "HI HAVE A THREESOME WITH ME AND MY GF, PROP"
1910[28/12/2014, 3:47:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: all dating profiles should have gender right next to orientation to encourage more "F BI" entries
1911[28/12/2014, 3:47:35 PM] Dina : how about no
1912[28/12/2014, 3:47:54 PM] Remy: Ah
1913[28/12/2014, 3:47:57 PM] SF: It's weird because I really wanna be that direct about it.
1914[28/12/2014, 3:48:06 PM] Quinnae: This is why I never ever listed as bi, I hate to say.
1915[28/12/2014, 3:48:06 PM] SF: But like, people don't know how to do that and not be gross.
1916[28/12/2014, 3:48:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i knew a lot of bi/pan women that would just set up a profile under lesbian and explain in their about they're only interested in meeting women on the site tbh
1917[28/12/2014, 3:48:50 PM] Ian Cheong: dudes on dating sites are the reason I don't use dating sites.
1918[28/12/2014, 3:48:54 PM] SF: I'd rather just upload a resume and be like "Here's what I'm like, here's what I'm into, apply with your info, don't be a desperate weirdo"
1919[28/12/2014, 3:48:58 PM] Ian Cheong: they make me look bad by association
1920[28/12/2014, 3:49:03 PM] Dina : I don't think OKC is the place to proposition threesomes ever imho
1921[28/12/2014, 3:49:03 PM] Remy: XD
1922[28/12/2014, 3:49:06 PM] Dina : but that could be just me
1923[28/12/2014, 3:49:13 PM] SF: Well where do you do it then?
1924[28/12/2014, 3:49:25 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: in your home with trusted friends?
1925[28/12/2014, 3:49:30 PM] SF: bah
1926[28/12/2014, 3:49:38 PM] SF: I've only got so many friends.
1927[28/12/2014, 3:49:40 PM] Dina : what SGG said
1928[28/12/2014, 3:49:46 PM] Remy: Honestly I don't wanna knock the internet but threesomes, especially involving a couple, should be organized IRL so you know that everyone's chemistry plays well together
1929[28/12/2014, 3:49:49 PM] Dina : or in specific sex meetups
1930[28/12/2014, 3:49:56 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and maybe at George Clinton concerts?
1931[28/12/2014, 3:49:56 PM] Dina : orgies and the like
1932[28/12/2014, 3:49:59 PM] Dina : sex clubs
1933[28/12/2014, 3:50:11 PM] Quinnae: Admittedly, I'm much too shy and buttoned down to ask for threesomes online anyway, however politely.
1934[28/12/2014, 3:50:13 PM] SF: Then I have to talk to people.
1935[28/12/2014, 3:50:15 PM] Dina : Stephen exactly
1936[28/12/2014, 3:50:21 PM] Dina : haha I'm afraid so
1937[28/12/2014, 3:50:32 PM] Quinnae: And I only go to clubs when I'm with a dedicated partner that I can whip at my leisure. blushes
1938[28/12/2014, 3:50:50 PM] Quinnae: Otherwise it'd just be a disaster of shyness, socialising, and feels.
1939[28/12/2014, 3:50:51 PM] Dina : You just need to look a person in the eye first before knowing whether you trust them with your partner and yourself
1940[28/12/2014, 3:50:54 PM] Ian Cheong: What conversation have I stumbled in upon.
1941[28/12/2014, 3:50:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: the term "partner" with regards to relationships always weirds me out
1942[28/12/2014, 3:51:06 PM] SF: It feels kinda sterile doesn't it
1943[28/12/2014, 3:51:08 PM] Remy: we're discussing threesomes and online dating
1944[28/12/2014, 3:51:17 PM] Dina : how about "pardner"
1945[28/12/2014, 3:51:20 PM] SF: 3 at least
1946[28/12/2014, 3:51:22 PM] Remy: You know 'cause we're a bunch of sex-negative SJW's and all that
1947[28/12/2014, 3:51:31 PM] Dina : Dina  puts on cowboy boots
1948[28/12/2014, 3:51:35 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: it's not even necessarily sterile, it just seems like, you run a lawfirm, or some criminal enterprise
1949[28/12/2014, 3:51:40 PM] Remy: Remy puts on some chaps lol
1950[28/12/2014, 3:52:03 PM] Quinnae: Well, SGG, if I'd said "painslut" that would have been terribly uncouth and unbecoming of me, you understand.
1951[28/12/2014, 3:52:08 PM] Remy: AH WISH AH COOD QUIT YOO
1952[28/12/2014, 3:52:11 PM] Quinnae: And that simply won't do. blushes
1953[28/12/2014, 3:52:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: but it makes for a much clearer sentence structure and mental image
1954[28/12/2014, 3:53:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: AND reminds me that I haven't started playing this copy of Bayonetta 2 I got for Christmas!
1955[28/12/2014, 3:53:23 PM] Quinnae: chuckles
1956[28/12/2014, 3:53:28 PM] Dan Olson: I agree. I know EXACTLY what a painslut is.
1957[28/12/2014, 3:53:28 PM] Dina : LOOOL Stephen
1958[28/12/2014, 3:53:39 PM] SF: I did not know but I could have probably guessed.
1959[28/12/2014, 3:53:42 PM] Dina : Kath oh my ._.
1960[28/12/2014, 3:53:45 PM] Quinnae: I am likely going to get a WiiU, so Bayonetta 2 is in the cards.
1961[28/12/2014, 3:53:53 PM] Quinnae: curtsies to Dina and Dan
1962[28/12/2014, 3:53:58 PM] SF: OH hey how about proposing that to the internet as a new familial suffix to replace "-fag"
1963[28/12/2014, 3:54:11 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: replaying the original first because hey, been a while and all
1964[28/12/2014, 3:54:13 PM] SF: newslut, oldslut, tripslut, etc.
1965[28/12/2014, 3:54:16 PM] Dina : "-painslut"?
1966[28/12/2014, 3:54:19 PM] Quinnae: laughs
1967[28/12/2014, 3:54:19 PM] Dina : oooh
1968[28/12/2014, 3:54:25 PM] Remy: I don't know what a painslut is and I'm not trying to be judgmental but I don't need to know
1969[28/12/2014, 3:54:38 PM] Dina : I don't know which one I'd be and I'm confused now
1970[28/12/2014, 3:54:39 PM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/Mephilesbdsm/status/549110553936142337 someone asking me about what gg is
1971[28/12/2014, 3:54:41 PM] Quinnae: But, yes, your local sex negative radical feminist at your service, everyone. winks
1972[28/12/2014, 3:54:42 PM] Charloppe: sarah says there is to many cubones. not sure whatto say
1973[28/12/2014, 3:55:03 PM] Dina : Cubones are so cute tho
1974[28/12/2014, 3:55:05 PM] Dan Olson: For the life of me I can't figure out what makes this map different from a normal map. I feel like it's just, like, longer and skinnier than normal? Less north/south?
1975[28/12/2014, 3:55:13 PM] Remy: On my first deployment I borrowed my buddy's computer and he'd left his browser on porn and didn't realize and so that day I found out that that dude is very aroused at the thought of having a woman stomp on his testicles violently
1976[28/12/2014, 3:55:20 PM] SF: I talk the talk but I'm starting to suspect I'm like the most vanilla person here.
1977[28/12/2014, 3:55:22 PM] Remy: So yeah I don't need to know what a painslut is
1978[28/12/2014, 3:55:24 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Seriously though, it weirds me out that there's people who dislike Bayonetta
1979[28/12/2014, 3:55:30 PM] Charloppe: yes they are. shes just repeating herself.
1980[28/12/2014, 3:55:31 PM] Peter Coffin: this @fox_sniper person bombards them, sends them fake girlfriend article, then sends them GamerGate in 60 Seconds
1981[28/12/2014, 3:55:33 PM] Quinnae: Sorry, Peter.
1982[28/12/2014, 3:55:36 PM] Peter Coffin: not your fault
1983[28/12/2014, 3:55:38 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i'm more into control than pain. but pain as a means of exerting control is hot :3
1984[28/12/2014, 3:55:38 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and for that matter, absolutely any other game from Platinum/Clover
1985[28/12/2014, 3:55:48 PM] Remy: @fox_sniper I've seen that tag before
1986[28/12/2014, 3:55:51 PM] Remy: Isn't that a GG troll?
1987[28/12/2014, 3:55:54 PM] Peter Coffin: yes
1988[28/12/2014, 3:56:00 PM] Charloppe: hey sarah
1989[28/12/2014, 3:56:07 PM] Charloppe: remember that painful memory
1990[28/12/2014, 3:56:14 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: charloppe wouldn't know anything about being a painslut
1991[28/12/2014, 3:56:19 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: cough firecupping cough
1992[28/12/2014, 3:56:25 PM] Charloppe: when i called you gg during wrestling
1993[28/12/2014, 3:56:28 PM] Dina : I'm with Miss Butts on the pain/control
1994[28/12/2014, 3:56:34 PM] Dina : and I'm really sorry Peter :(
1995[28/12/2014, 3:56:34 PM] Quinnae: giggles
1996[28/12/2014, 3:56:35 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: <333 dina
1997[28/12/2014, 3:56:50 PM] SF: Just thinking about what Peter mentioned makes mine hurt.
1998[28/12/2014, 3:57:03 PM] Remy: Don't get me wrong I completely understand sexually enjoying pain. The brain is sorting through stimulation obviously some people are going to react differently to it than others.
1999[28/12/2014, 3:57:06 PM] Charloppe: firecupping was fun tho
2000[28/12/2014, 3:57:17 PM] Remy: Some people don't like spicy food  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2001[28/12/2014, 3:57:21 PM] Dina : resisting the urge to google firecupping......
2002[28/12/2014, 3:57:32 PM] Ian Cheong: I don't want to know what that is.
2003[28/12/2014, 3:57:32 PM] Peter Coffin: so that radio show I was on tonight
2004[28/12/2014, 3:57:32 PM] Charloppe: your fault sarah
2005[28/12/2014, 3:57:36 PM] SF: Kinks remind me that you may all enjoy @wikisext https://twitter.com/wikisext
2006[28/12/2014, 3:57:39 PM] Peter Coffin: here’s a shock, they didn’t bombard it
2007[28/12/2014, 3:57:51 PM] Dan Olson: wait, no, I see it. Equatorial map is just a long skinny landmass in the middle of the map.
2008[28/12/2014, 3:57:53 PM] Peter Coffin: they were too chickenshit, they waited until I was gone, THEN CALLED IN
2009[28/12/2014, 3:57:58 PM] SF: It's a bot that writes sext tweets based on wikihow articles.
2010[28/12/2014, 3:58:03 PM] Peter Coffin: I just got a text from the host talking to me about it
2011[28/12/2014, 3:58:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that sounds like it could mean anything from totally innocent to a serious safety risk
2012[28/12/2014, 3:58:05 PM] Tesseract: I prefer voidsexts https://twitter.com/voidsexts
2013[28/12/2014, 3:58:05 PM] Dina : lol
2014[28/12/2014, 3:58:11 PM] Peter Coffin: they had an outline based around what I said
2015[28/12/2014, 3:58:22 PM] Peter Coffin: over 2 hours
2016[28/12/2014, 3:58:32 PM] Dan Olson: I trid various kink stuff, and it turns out that I'm pretty boring.
2017[28/12/2014, 3:58:34 PM] SF: I hadn't seen voidsexts hahaha
2018[28/12/2014, 3:58:36 PM] Peter Coffin: 4 hour show, they waited until I was gone to call in
2019[28/12/2014, 3:58:57 PM] Peter Coffin: that’s just infuriating, they needed to be sure they wouldn’t be argued with
2020[28/12/2014, 3:59:04 PM] Peter Coffin: by someone hip to their shit
2021[28/12/2014, 3:59:11 PM] Ian Cheong: of course
2022[28/12/2014, 3:59:16 PM] Quinnae: hugs Peter
2023[28/12/2014, 3:59:35 PM] Peter Coffin: that annoys me, they literally spent two hours listening, knowing I would be gone, and called in after
2024[28/12/2014, 3:59:44 PM] Peter Coffin: how chicken shit is that
2025[28/12/2014, 3:59:48 PM] Ian Cheong: very?
2026[28/12/2014, 3:59:57 PM] Charloppe: so true fact. cant stand tickle torture
2027[28/12/2014, 4:00:01 PM] Peter Coffin: ugh
2028[28/12/2014, 4:00:19 PM] Remy: lol
2029[28/12/2014, 4:00:22 PM] Remy: They were too afraid
2030[28/12/2014, 4:00:24 PM] Remy: To talk to you
2031[28/12/2014, 4:00:31 PM] Dan Olson: If someone wants to try something, sure, I'm on board, let's go, but I'll be content with nothing but the most vanilla stuff.
2032[28/12/2014, 4:00:32 PM] Remy: #BetaAsFuck
2033[28/12/2014, 4:00:48 PM] Remy: They are afraid of your Beta waves, bro
2034[28/12/2014, 4:00:50 PM] Peter Coffin: really! I know stephen
2035[28/12/2014, 4:00:56 PM] Peter Coffin: so much
2036[28/12/2014, 4:00:56 PM] Tesseract: apparently I'm blocked by ben kuchera and I have no idea how or why
2037[28/12/2014, 4:01:01 PM] Charloppe: damnit the song
2038[28/12/2014, 4:01:04 PM] Charloppe: its stuck
2039[28/12/2014, 4:01:05 PM] Charloppe: again
2040[28/12/2014, 4:01:06 PM] Peter Coffin: like how do you call ME beta and avoid my that much
2041[28/12/2014, 4:01:17 PM] Remy: XD fucking Gaters, they never fail to take the lowest road
2042[28/12/2014, 4:01:22 PM] Dina : Charlotte I might be your nemesis; I am literally impossible to tickle
2043[28/12/2014, 4:01:41 PM] Charloppe: im very easy to tickle
2044[28/12/2014, 4:01:43 PM] Quinnae: Moleball time. throws Charlotte at Dina Catch!
2045[28/12/2014, 4:01:51 PM] Ian Cheong: There's a number of things I don't like disclosing about myself because Gators will use it as a way to attack me.
2046[28/12/2014, 4:01:53 PM] Charloppe: ETTTTTTTTTTHICS
2047[28/12/2014, 4:01:55 PM] Dina : Dina  staggers but catches
2048[28/12/2014, 4:02:02 PM] Dina : eeee so cute <3
2049[28/12/2014, 4:02:09 PM] Tesseract: Tesseract throws self out window
2050[28/12/2014, 4:02:16 PM] Dina : Tess NO
2051[28/12/2014, 4:02:18 PM] Charloppe: gg mole at your service
2052[28/12/2014, 4:02:46 PM] Dina : I'm afraid to move so I don't tickle you now. We might be stuck like this.
2053[28/12/2014, 4:02:51 PM] Dina : ._.
2054[28/12/2014, 4:02:55 PM] Charloppe: good
2055[28/12/2014, 4:02:59 PM] Charloppe: tickles aremean
2056[28/12/2014, 4:03:06 PM] Dina : xD
2057[28/12/2014, 4:03:14 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh my, i come back from playing isaac
2058[28/12/2014, 4:03:15 PM] Dan Olson: I feel like I just wandered into the Deeprun Tram.
2059[28/12/2014, 4:03:17 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and charloppe is on dina
2060[28/12/2014, 4:03:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what happened
2061[28/12/2014, 4:03:23 PM] Ian Cheong: Haha Dan
2062[28/12/2014, 4:03:23 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hahaha dan
2063[28/12/2014, 4:03:27 PM] Quinnae: laughs Dan
2064[28/12/2014, 4:03:27 PM] Charloppe: ethics
2065[28/12/2014, 4:03:27 PM] Dina : Kath happened
2066[28/12/2014, 4:03:29 PM] Ian Cheong: I feel the same way.
2067[28/12/2014, 4:03:38 PM] Dina : Dan idk what that means
2068[28/12/2014, 4:03:42 PM] Quinnae: I apologise for making the chat lewd.
2069[28/12/2014, 4:03:46 PM] Dina : I'm sorry I'm uncultured
2070[28/12/2014, 4:03:53 PM] Dina : ;-;
2071[28/12/2014, 4:03:59 PM] Charloppe: im not sorry
2072[28/12/2014, 4:04:07 PM] Charloppe: cause mole
2073[28/12/2014, 4:04:07 PM] Quinnae: The Deeprun Tram is a subway tunnel of sorts in World of Warcraft that was a popular and much-loathed cybersex hotspot.
2074[28/12/2014, 4:04:16 PM] Dan Olson: It's a WoW joke. There's a generally-abandoned area in one of the major cities where people would often go to RP cyber
2075[28/12/2014, 4:04:26 PM] Dina : (also I'm holding a cute GG mole now so I'm pretty happy)
2076[28/12/2014, 4:04:34 PM] Dina : ooooh
2077[28/12/2014, 4:04:43 PM] Dina : never had love for WoW
2078[28/12/2014, 4:05:00 PM] Charloppe: moles cant play wow
2079[28/12/2014, 4:05:11 PM] Charloppe: mole tried butonly played 3hrs
2080[28/12/2014, 4:05:13 PM] Ian Cheong: You'd see two characters sitting clothesless, probably PMing each other.
2081[28/12/2014, 4:05:20 PM] SF: Why exactly would people cybersex in WoW
2082[28/12/2014, 4:05:30 PM] Remy: XD
2083[28/12/2014, 4:05:32 PM] Ian Cheong: People are horny.
2084[28/12/2014, 4:05:42 PM] Quinnae: http://www.nj-pbem.com/data/Gods/gnomegods/Urdlen_symbol.jpg <- Charlotte.
2085[28/12/2014, 4:05:43 PM] SF: Emphasis on the in WoW part
2086[28/12/2014, 4:05:45 PM] Remy: And they don't know about... literally anything else
2087[28/12/2014, 4:05:54 PM] Charloppe: KATHERINE
2088[28/12/2014, 4:05:57 PM] Charloppe: again!?
2089[28/12/2014, 4:06:00 PM] Charloppe: stop doxxing
2090[28/12/2014, 4:06:06 PM] Quinnae: I wrote an article about this, actually.
2091[28/12/2014, 4:06:22 PM] Dina : SF I'm asking myself the same question
2092[28/12/2014, 4:06:26 PM] Quinnae: http://bitchmagazine.org/article/lets-get-digital-gaming-erotic-roleplaying-rpg-sex A feature in last season's Bitch Magazine.
2093[28/12/2014, 4:06:26 PM] Dina : mIRC ftw
2094[28/12/2014, 4:06:36 PM] Quinnae: It will answer all or none of your questions.
2095[28/12/2014, 4:06:43 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl katherine
2096[28/12/2014, 4:06:47 PM] Dina : OMG cute little mole!!! *hugs tight*
2097[28/12/2014, 4:06:49 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh god goldshire ;-;;
2098[28/12/2014, 4:06:54 PM] Ian Cheong: goldshire inn
2099[28/12/2014, 4:07:01 PM] Remy: O.O
2100[28/12/2014, 4:07:03 PM] Remy: OMG CHARLOTTE
2101[28/12/2014, 4:07:05 PM] Charloppe: gasp! dina help i was doxxed
2102[28/12/2014, 4:07:12 PM] Remy: I FIGURED OUT YOUR COMIC BOOK CHARACTER
2103[28/12/2014, 4:07:16 PM] Remy: YOU'RE A MOLE
2104[28/12/2014, 4:07:18 PM] Charloppe: do tell
2105[28/12/2014, 4:07:22 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: katherine charloppe is shocked at your perviness
2106[28/12/2014, 4:07:22 PM] Charloppe: YEEEEEEEEES
2107[28/12/2014, 4:07:24 PM] Dan Olson: Because if I'm going to be farming up the Stormshroud helm pattern (0.01% drop off a tiny set of mobs in one zone) and Darkmistress is online and also going to be farming garbage all night, why not make things a bit more bearable with some saucy chat.
2108[28/12/2014, 4:07:39 PM] Dina : LOL Dan
2109[28/12/2014, 4:07:40 PM] Remy: NO I MEAN YOU'RE LITERALLY A MOLE
2110[28/12/2014, 4:07:51 PM] Dina : like on aa face mole?
2111[28/12/2014, 4:07:53 PM] Quinnae: What perviness is this?
2112[28/12/2014, 4:07:53 PM] SF: yo dog I heard you like grinding
2113[28/12/2014, 4:07:55 PM] Charloppe: but i am literally a mole
2114[28/12/2014, 4:08:04 PM] Dina : SF I'm dying don't
2115[28/12/2014, 4:08:06 PM] Ian Cheong: So I literally can't relate to people who talk about sex.
2116[28/12/2014, 4:08:07 PM] Remy: You and I are so on the same page Charlotte
2117[28/12/2014, 4:08:09 PM] Dina : "ayyy lmao"
2118[28/12/2014, 4:08:12 PM] Ian Cheong: I'm never horny.
2119[28/12/2014, 4:08:12 PM] Dina : ^FULL CIRCLE
2120[28/12/2014, 4:08:13 PM] Ian Cheong: :/
2121[28/12/2014, 4:08:21 PM] Dina : what. I'm always horny.
2122[28/12/2014, 4:08:23 PM] Remy: I hope we become fast friends <3
2123[28/12/2014, 4:08:24 PM] Dina : um
2124[28/12/2014, 4:08:25 PM] Ian Cheong: I guess I'm asexual haha.
2125[28/12/2014, 4:08:26 PM] Charloppe: does mole bow
2126[28/12/2014, 4:08:30 PM] Dan Olson: That sounds equal parts horrible and convenient.
2127[28/12/2014, 4:08:31 PM] Remy: Dina is also on the same page as me
2128[28/12/2014, 4:08:34 PM] Charloppe: of course!
2129[28/12/2014, 4:08:37 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: wow perviness!
2130[28/12/2014, 4:08:40 PM] SF: Be grateful as the world weighs lighter on you.
2131[28/12/2014, 4:08:44 PM] Ian Cheong: well i'm not asexual though, no.
2132[28/12/2014, 4:08:47 PM] Ian Cheong: But someone did call me that.
2133[28/12/2014, 4:08:47 PM] SF: It's kind of exhausting.
2134[28/12/2014, 4:08:49 PM] Ian Cheong: I got annoyed!
2135[28/12/2014, 4:09:04 PM] Ian Cheong: I just don't get horny.
2136[28/12/2014, 4:09:09 PM] Dina : hm
2137[28/12/2014, 4:09:14 PM] Quinnae: I'm neither confirming nor denying WoW "perviness," merely pointing out that I've written on the subject of erotic RP subcultures in gaming.
2138[28/12/2014, 4:09:20 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: sure sure
2139[28/12/2014, 4:09:21 PM] Dina : well what actually gets you horny?
2140[28/12/2014, 4:09:23 PM] Dan Olson: I'm not a fan of "asexual" if only because it makes me think of microbes.
2141[28/12/2014, 4:09:26 PM] Charloppe: katherine why you dox?
2142[28/12/2014, 4:09:35 PM] Quinnae: Because you're cute, Charlotte. pets
2143[28/12/2014, 4:09:39 PM] Charloppe: i thought we were mole friends
2144[28/12/2014, 4:09:42 PM] Charloppe: purrs
2145[28/12/2014, 4:09:45 PM] Ian Cheong: Hmmm, I don't know Dina.
2146[28/12/2014, 4:09:45 PM] Charloppe: mole purr
2147[28/12/2014, 4:09:52 PM] Ian Cheong: I haven't dated anyone in years.
2148[28/12/2014, 4:09:58 PM] Dina : I am the only girl in TTRPG group and I'm worried because the GM wrote this other dude as my ex and I don't want to RP romance out loud because they'll know I'm lewd help
2149[28/12/2014, 4:10:04 PM] SF: You should just make up having some horrible fetish to see how long it takes for Arthur Chu to get accused of having it.
2150[28/12/2014, 4:10:04 PM] Remy: You know what games always had the dirtiest sexual RP subcultures? MUCKS
2151[28/12/2014, 4:10:12 PM] Remy: MUDDS, what-have-you
2152[28/12/2014, 4:10:21 PM] Remy: When everyone was together but still forced to use text and imagination
2153[28/12/2014, 4:10:24 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe hides in ground and eats tubers
2154[28/12/2014, 4:10:28 PM] Dan Olson: Dina: shock them into submission.
2155[28/12/2014, 4:10:36 PM] Dina : lmao
2156[28/12/2014, 4:10:45 PM] Dina : aw I lost my cute little mole
2157[28/12/2014, 4:10:49 PM] Dina : she burrowed away
2158[28/12/2014, 4:11:02 PM] Dan Olson: Establish dominance, let them know they will never, ever out lewd you.
2159[28/12/2014, 4:11:14 PM] Dina : oh they won't
2160[28/12/2014, 4:11:14 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe takes katherines shrimp for great justice
2161[28/12/2014, 4:11:25 PM] Quinnae: I have a high def photo of Charlotte, actually: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/10/22/shutterstock_mole.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg
2162[28/12/2014, 4:11:36 PM] Charloppe: KATHERINE
2163[28/12/2014, 4:11:38 PM] Charloppe: WHY
2164[28/12/2014, 4:11:40 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: HIGH DEF DOXXING
2165[28/12/2014, 4:11:40 PM] Charloppe: STOP
2166[28/12/2014, 4:11:49 PM] SF: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080524185458/bloodyroar/images/thumb/4/4b/BakuryuAnimalBR.jpg/300px-BakuryuAnimalBR.jpg
2167[28/12/2014, 4:11:54 PM] Dina : omg the cutenessssss
2168[28/12/2014, 4:11:58 PM] Charloppe: im fat as fuck in that one
2169[28/12/2014, 4:12:01 PM] Charloppe: just stop
2170[28/12/2014, 4:12:02 PM] Charloppe: qq
2171[28/12/2014, 4:12:07 PM] Dan Olson: Should have gone for golden mole http://www.afrotheria.net/golden-moles/images/Eremitalpa_157_Edited.jpg
2172[28/12/2014, 4:12:16 PM] Dan Olson: (they swim through the sand)
2173[28/12/2014, 4:12:17 PM] Dina : EEEE
2174[28/12/2014, 4:12:22 PM] Dina : I'm dying...
2175[28/12/2014, 4:12:23 PM] Quinnae: So much cuteness!
2176[28/12/2014, 4:12:29 PM] Dina : this Golden mole is killing me...
2177[28/12/2014, 4:12:31 PM] Charloppe: i was going through my butch phase there
2178[28/12/2014, 4:12:34 PM] SF: https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-k0fb5qkWe4M%2FTb8sTZrK-mI%2FAAAAAAAALxA%2F7yuI7pfGZ4E%2Fs800%2FMole%252BSauce%252B500%252B0805.jpg&f=1
2179[28/12/2014, 4:12:36 PM] Charloppe: dont judge
2180[28/12/2014, 4:12:48 PM] Dina : ._.
2181[28/12/2014, 4:12:55 PM] Dina : Mole... sauce?
2182[28/12/2014, 4:13:07 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe narrows eyes
2183[28/12/2014, 4:13:11 PM] Dina : that's a thing?
2184[28/12/2014, 4:13:22 PM] Dina : also hm so many dirty jokes
2185[28/12/2014, 4:13:30 PM] Dina : Dina  side eyes Charlotte
2186[28/12/2014, 4:13:39 PM] SF: It's neither pronounced similarly nor made of moles.
2187[28/12/2014, 4:13:47 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe hides from being mole sauce
2188[28/12/2014, 4:13:48 PM] Dina : oh boo
2189[28/12/2014, 4:14:20 PM] Dina : is that actual chocolate tho?
2190[28/12/2014, 4:14:26 PM] Quinnae: Who stole my shrimp?
2191[28/12/2014, 4:14:35 PM] Charloppe: who doxxed me?
2192[28/12/2014, 4:14:51 PM] Quinnae: Ethics, Charlotte! It's about ethics!
2193[28/12/2014, 4:14:57 PM] Quinnae: In you being adorably furry.
2194[28/12/2014, 4:15:06 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe pokes dead horse with stick
2195[28/12/2014, 4:15:17 PM] SF: Chocolate mole sauce exists and is wonderful!
2196[28/12/2014, 4:15:28 PM] Charloppe: course im furry im a mole
2197[28/12/2014, 4:15:39 PM] Charloppe: dont make me into a coat tho
2198[28/12/2014, 4:15:46 PM] Charloppe: gg moles are rare
2199[28/12/2014, 4:15:47 PM] Quinnae: I won't, I promise. pets
2200[28/12/2014, 4:15:52 PM] Charloppe: mole purrs
2201[28/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Ian Cheong: moles can purr?
2202[28/12/2014, 4:15:59 PM] Remy: ^_^
2203[28/12/2014, 4:16:06 PM] Charloppe: gg moles can
2204[28/12/2014, 4:16:17 PM] Dina : also while the chat is calm, SF who are you on Twitter?
2205[28/12/2014, 4:16:21 PM] Dina : (sorry I'm slow)
2206[28/12/2014, 4:16:38 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/Are-You-Demi-Romantic-%28Definition-Inside%29/1210659
2207[28/12/2014, 4:16:42 PM] Ian Cheong: So this describes me.
2208[28/12/2014, 4:16:50 PM] Ian Cheong: I guess I'm asexual-demiromantic.
2209[28/12/2014, 4:16:54 PM] Remy: Fortunately for you, Charlotte, Sarah's power is beast boy-style shapeshifting
2210[28/12/2014, 4:17:02 PM] Remy: But you are a mole
2211[28/12/2014, 4:17:06 PM] Remy: And are also a master of disguise
2212[28/12/2014, 4:17:11 PM] SF: @gameappmakerco
2213[28/12/2014, 4:17:13 PM] Remy: b/c mole
2214[28/12/2014, 4:17:25 PM] SF: I'm kind of a nobody, I ended up in the chat through just complaining about GG a lot I guess.
2215[28/12/2014, 4:17:27 PM] Charloppe: nobody suspects me
2216[28/12/2014, 4:17:37 PM] Ian Cheong: It's one of those definitions that GGers laugh at because it sounds like a tumblrism.
2217[28/12/2014, 4:18:06 PM] Remy: So now I have to figure out how a mole would decide to join a band of superheroes.
2218[28/12/2014, 4:18:15 PM] Dina : SF ok already got you on Twitter <3
2219[28/12/2014, 4:18:31 PM] Quinnae: I do look forward to seeing this when it's done, Stephen.
2220[28/12/2014, 4:18:42 PM] Remy: lol fingers crossed
2221[28/12/2014, 4:18:46 PM] Dina : Stephen WHY wouldn't a mole?
2222[28/12/2014, 4:18:55 PM] Remy: Still figuring out the characters
2223[28/12/2014, 4:19:04 PM] Remy: But I've got the major plot arcs fleshed out I think
2224[28/12/2014, 4:19:05 PM] Ian Cheong: It bugs the shit out of me to see PixieJenni attacked for her asexuality.
2225[28/12/2014, 4:19:12 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe is liking mole story
2226[28/12/2014, 4:19:17 PM] Quinnae: Likewise, Ian.
2227[28/12/2014, 4:19:30 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yeah :( jenni's awesome. i hope she's okay, was nervous when she locked her account down
2228[28/12/2014, 4:19:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hope nothing happened
2229[28/12/2014, 4:19:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
2230[28/12/2014, 4:19:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: GG hates women for both being sexual and asexual, now
2231[28/12/2014, 4:20:02 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: that article up there reminds me
2232[28/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Remy: That makes sense, Sarah
2233[28/12/2014, 4:20:09 PM] Charloppe: sarah is most sexual
2234[28/12/2014, 4:20:17 PM] Remy: Either one implies that the woman has made the choice for herself
2235[28/12/2014, 4:20:18 PM] Ian Cheong: I imagine they'd attack me for being asexual too.
2236[28/12/2014, 4:20:23 PM] Quinnae: "Account is only protected til the new year - just to give myself an enforced break over Christmas :)" She's fine. :)
2237[28/12/2014, 4:20:24 PM] Ian Cheong: Because why not, right?
2238[28/12/2014, 4:20:26 PM] Dina : I have to admit I understand nothing of asexuality. Pixiejenni was probably the first person I saw openly discuss it
2239[28/12/2014, 4:20:38 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A- Wasn't there some very early, very shortlived MMO whose big claim to fame was doling out XP for having sex with other players?
2240[28/12/2014, 4:20:49 PM] Dina : Sarah is Allsexual?
2241[28/12/2014, 4:20:53 PM] Quinnae: Well, to be blunt, what a lot of GGers seem to hate is that women have any choice in how we orient our sexuality.
2242[28/12/2014, 4:20:53 PM] Remy: Or at the very least they will object to any woman taking an effort to define her own sexuality
2243[28/12/2014, 4:20:57 PM] Ian Cheong: being asexual doesn't mean I don't want to be with someone, btw.
2244[28/12/2014, 4:21:06 PM] Dina : I know, Ian
2245[28/12/2014, 4:21:09 PM] Remy: effort? I mean... stand?
2246[28/12/2014, 4:21:13 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: nod katherine
2247[28/12/2014, 4:21:14 PM] Dina : I've educated myself since lol
2248[28/12/2014, 4:21:31 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: the only acceptable expression of women's sexuality for them is one that involves them
2249[28/12/2014, 4:21:38 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: B- It really is weird looking at those first few Pathfinder APs when they were just doing an original campaign setting instead of full on "fan-patched D&D3.5"
2250[28/12/2014, 4:21:49 PM] Remy: My brain doesn't reach for the right words? I always think of my brain as a man reaching in the pantry for something late at night. Can't really see so sometimes I think I'm making Chicken soup and I end up with a bowl full of condensed milk
2251[28/12/2014, 4:21:51 PM] Charloppe: sarah is ggsexual
2252[28/12/2014, 4:21:54 PM] Ian Cheong: And the only acceptable expression of men's sexuality is to be a horny bro who wants to fuck everything on two legs.
2253[28/12/2014, 4:22:02 PM] Dina : Dina  slowly pokes Charlotte with a feather
2254[28/12/2014, 4:22:15 PM] Remy: They both started with the letter C so that's probably why
2255[28/12/2014, 4:22:27 PM] Charloppe: hello!
2256[28/12/2014, 4:22:32 PM] Charloppe: im a mole
2257[28/12/2014, 4:22:37 PM] SF: Yeah they just hate agency.
2258[28/12/2014, 4:22:42 PM] Dina : Ian as said horny bro I apologize for my fellow gross meatheads
2259[28/12/2014, 4:22:54 PM] Ian Cheong: hehehe no need to apologize.
2260[28/12/2014, 4:22:56 PM] Dina : we don't use brains much
2261[28/12/2014, 4:23:12 PM] Quinnae: hugs Ian
2262[28/12/2014, 4:23:17 PM] Ian Cheong: thanks kath
2263[28/12/2014, 4:23:19 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe gets feather
2264[28/12/2014, 4:23:22 PM] Remy: It still boggles my mind that Paizo was able to basically fan-patch D&D and sell it as their own
2265[28/12/2014, 4:23:31 PM] Remy: I love that game though
2266[28/12/2014, 4:23:33 PM] Dina : (side note Kath that article is great and the illustration is making me flustered)
2267[28/12/2014, 4:23:38 PM] Remy: And their dedication to inclusiveness, from what I can tell
2268[28/12/2014, 4:23:55 PM] Quinnae: Aww, thanks Dina, and yes that's my favourite illustration of all the ones done for Bitch Mag so far. :)
2269[28/12/2014, 4:23:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: It still blows my mind that I have a book here from the biggest PP RPG company out there, containing a stat block that starts off with "Female alu-demon submissive 5"
2270[28/12/2014, 4:24:18 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: breaking things down, that is Gender, race, class, level.
2271[28/12/2014, 4:24:18 PM] Quinnae: I've written a lot for the magazine and got some great art done for each of my features, but that takes the cake.
2272[28/12/2014, 4:24:29 PM] Remy: Hey, you know what I would like to see? During my Pathfinder days I was able to play and DM sessions form far away by hosting games online
2273[28/12/2014, 4:24:41 PM] Remy: But everyone did it with a combination of the online board & audio, sometimes even video
2274[28/12/2014, 4:24:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and yeah, Paizo is a really great company run by really great people and I still would really love to work there sometime
2275[28/12/2014, 4:24:51 PM] Remy: I always wanted to see it done solely through text
2276[28/12/2014, 4:24:59 PM] Remy: In order to encourage descriptiveness?
2277[28/12/2014, 4:25:01 PM] SF: NWN was just a bit too ahead of its time with the online dungeon master controls.
2278[28/12/2014, 4:25:08 PM] Ian Cheong: Coming out as asexual isn't an easy thing to do, especially when you have to admit it to yourself. Feels weird, you know? Because of societal expectations.
2279[28/12/2014, 4:25:18 PM] Dina : I can describe genital bumping for days
2280[28/12/2014, 4:25:22 PM] SF: Oh for sure. Especially when it's not taken seirously.
2281[28/12/2014, 4:25:27 PM] Dina : fanfiction.net alumni
2282[28/12/2014, 4:25:36 PM] Remy: Go ahead, Dina, nobody is stopping you
2283[28/12/2014, 4:25:39 PM] Remy: This is a safe space?
2284[28/12/2014, 4:25:42 PM] Remy: XD
2285[28/12/2014, 4:25:45 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe waits for dina to start talking bout genital bumping
2286[28/12/2014, 4:25:53 PM] Dina : Ian *hugs tight*
2287[28/12/2014, 4:25:58 PM] SF: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10256912/1/will-teach-you-about-grammar Here's the best fanfiction I ever wrote.
2288[28/12/2014, 4:26:02 PM] Ian Cheong: thank you dina
2289[28/12/2014, 4:26:10 PM] Dina : Charlotte, you enabler ._.
2290[28/12/2014, 4:26:21 PM] Quinnae: Yeah, Ian, it's tremendously difficult, especially with all the social expectations heaped on men, as you said. I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
2291[28/12/2014, 4:26:26 PM] Charloppe: im a mole
2292[28/12/2014, 4:26:36 PM] Quinnae: I really do wish we could all be our sexual selves without shame or strife.
2293[28/12/2014, 4:26:37 PM] Dina : You've all already read the best fan fiction I ever wrote Aurini/Skully
2294[28/12/2014, 4:26:37 PM] Remy: Katherine if you want to be/inspire a comic book character you have to send me your recommendations/designs :3
2295[28/12/2014, 4:26:47 PM] Ian Cheong: This chat is the first time I came out to anyone as asexual, btw.
2296[28/12/2014, 4:26:53 PM] Quinnae: Hehe, as you wish Stephen.
2297[28/12/2014, 4:26:57 PM] SF: Oh that's really touching you'd trust us like that!
2298[28/12/2014, 4:27:05 PM] Ian Cheong: I could never admit it to myself.
2299[28/12/2014, 4:27:09 PM] Dina : Ian ;-; <3
2300[28/12/2014, 4:27:15 PM] Quinnae: Aw, Ian, well I'm touched, personally. curtsies I shall keep your confidence. hugs
2301[28/12/2014, 4:27:18 PM] Dina : thank you for trusting us
2302[28/12/2014, 4:27:21 PM] Charloppe: im glad you felt comfortable to share ian
2303[28/12/2014, 4:27:40 PM] Ian Cheong: Thank you for listening.
2304[28/12/2014, 4:27:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: A big part of it is how they go and do stuff like this- http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lgcn?Meet-the-Iconics-Shardra-Geltl and that thing where they sent a big pile of relevant books to a trans woman fan as a coming out gift, but mainly I just really like how they streamlined class customization and know how to write solid published adventures
2305[28/12/2014, 4:27:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and, "coming out" as asexual is a thing now?
2306[28/12/2014, 4:28:05 PM] Peter Coffin: that’s awesome ian
2307[28/12/2014, 4:28:19 PM] SF: Well if it's a secret at one point, it has to no longer be at some point. That's coming out.
2308[28/12/2014, 4:28:43 PM] Dina : it's a pretty hefty thing to admit for a man, given the societal expectations leaped on for fucking everything that moves ever
2309[28/12/2014, 4:28:53 PM] Dina : including moles.
2310[28/12/2014, 4:29:01 PM] Dina : and Butts.
2311[28/12/2014, 4:29:05 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe is very sexy sexual mole
2312[28/12/2014, 4:29:13 PM] Ian Cheong: I'll never have to deal with homophobia or transphobia, though. So I still have that privilege.
2313[28/12/2014, 4:29:54 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: glad you felt comfortable enough to share it with us ian <3
2314[28/12/2014, 4:30:08 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i don't know you guys all that well on a personal level but i'm super happy i met all of you ~
2315[28/12/2014, 4:30:18 PM] Charloppe: who are you?
2316[28/12/2014, 4:30:26 PM] SF: Hahaha
2317[28/12/2014, 4:30:27 PM] Dina : I'm a pretty terrible person IRL
2318[28/12/2014, 4:30:32 PM] Dina : sorry
2319[28/12/2014, 4:30:35 PM] SF: This is my RL.
2320[28/12/2014, 4:30:45 PM] Peter Coffin: I am also sarah, a lot of people here I do not know personally still but you are all amazing
2321[28/12/2014, 4:30:57 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: psh dina
2322[28/12/2014, 4:31:13 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe gives dina mole hug
2323[28/12/2014, 4:31:27 PM] SF: It's weird to me being in this social space with people I knew *of* before, like Zoe and Dina.
2324[28/12/2014, 4:31:30 PM] Dina : I just spit roasted a baby and am currently eating it
2325[28/12/2014, 4:31:40 PM] Ian Cheong: Babies taste best.
2326[28/12/2014, 4:31:42 PM] SF: But they were these caricatures. Barely living entities, just like, forces of nature.
2327[28/12/2014, 4:31:42 PM] Dina : SF, same!
2328[28/12/2014, 4:31:42 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah
2329[28/12/2014, 4:31:46 PM] Ian Cheong: " - Captain America
2330[28/12/2014, 4:32:01 PM] Quinnae: I certainly shan't object if we all bond over this experience. smiles
2331[28/12/2014, 4:32:10 PM] Charloppe: i was known by all already
2332[28/12/2014, 4:32:17 PM] Charloppe: cause mole
2333[28/12/2014, 4:32:29 PM] Quinnae: picks Charlotte up and tucks her beneath her arm
2334[28/12/2014, 4:32:40 PM] Charloppe: nooooooo im sorry
2335[28/12/2014, 4:33:05 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe squirms thens stops
2336[28/12/2014, 4:33:13 PM] Quinnae: sets down
2337[28/12/2014, 4:33:16 PM] SF: I meant to ask Dina about that whole Mighty Number 9 thing actually if she isn't sick of it already. Like, was there ANYTHING they were objecting to beyond a piece of fanart?
2338[28/12/2014, 4:33:17 PM] Dina : um
2339[28/12/2014, 4:33:31 PM] Ian Cheong: She's a feminist. They object to that.
2340[28/12/2014, 4:33:32 PM] SF: Like these are people that are big fans of rule 63 so like, I didn't get the outrage.
2341[28/12/2014, 4:33:34 PM] Dina : oh ask away, I never got to publicly defend myself
2342[28/12/2014, 4:33:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, banning creeps from the forums
2343[28/12/2014, 4:33:46 PM] SF: Yeah but they didn't know she was yet did they?
2344[28/12/2014, 4:33:46 PM] Dina : in fact I was explicitly forbidden to ;D
2345[28/12/2014, 4:33:47 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe growls at stupid internet ppl trying to be a butt to dina
2346[28/12/2014, 4:33:55 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: as some sort of evil feminist witch and all that
2347[28/12/2014, 4:34:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: their MO is basically 1) find outspoken feminist 2) make up lies about them 3) move on to new target
2348[28/12/2014, 4:34:01 PM] Peter Coffin: wait dina is the mighty no. 9 community manager?
2349[28/12/2014, 4:34:05 PM] Ian Cheong: yes peter
2350[28/12/2014, 4:34:06 PM] Dina : SGG we could not figure out how to ban because the forums were broken until 2 months in
2351[28/12/2014, 4:34:17 PM] Peter Coffin: oh that is fucking awesome, you rule so fucking much dina
2352[28/12/2014, 4:34:20 PM] Dina : so I had to moderate abusers for 2 months
2353[28/12/2014, 4:34:24 PM] Dina : hi Peter haha
2354[28/12/2014, 4:34:27 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts hugs :(
2355[28/12/2014, 4:34:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and I think the outrage wasn't so much because rule 63 but for blasphemously WESTERN looking rule-63
2356[28/12/2014, 4:34:33 PM] Dina : Butt hugs!! <3
2357[28/12/2014, 4:34:38 PM] Peter Coffin: I donated to mn9
2358[28/12/2014, 4:34:49 PM] Quinnae: hugs Dina
2359[28/12/2014, 4:34:51 PM] SF: I wonder if I should do the Based Mom thing and describe myself as an MRA but shit all over them constantly.
2360[28/12/2014, 4:34:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Ian Cheong has played MN9, the beta is really fun
2361[28/12/2014, 4:35:02 PM] Dina : SGG, the outrage was because I said when I was a backer that I'd like a playable female option Beck actually haha
2362[28/12/2014, 4:35:06 PM] Peter Coffin: I haven’t
2363[28/12/2014, 4:35:07 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: like, how dare you go all We Can Do It! poster and not all big/no-breasted vapid anime girl you inhuman monster?
2364[28/12/2014, 4:35:27 PM] Remy: counter-revolutionaries
2365[28/12/2014, 4:35:29 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: after how dina said she was treated i wouldn't even feel right buying the game :\
2366[28/12/2014, 4:35:30 PM] SF: Oh so it was something different but still very much a non-issue.
2367[28/12/2014, 4:35:30 PM] Remy: all of them
2368[28/12/2014, 4:35:35 PM] SF: Thanks for sating my curiosity at any rate.
2369[28/12/2014, 4:35:35 PM] Dina : yeah there was def some of that too
2370[28/12/2014, 4:35:37 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah, did the playable Not!Roll tier ever get hit? I can't remember
2371[28/12/2014, 4:35:38 PM] Charloppe: omg that will ruin game. sees shovel knight getting gender swap mode. noooooooooo
2372[28/12/2014, 4:35:40 PM] Peter Coffin: mn9 and hyper light drifter are the two I donated to that I want most
2373[28/12/2014, 4:35:52 PM] Dina : SGG yeah it did but she only gets one stage lol
2374[28/12/2014, 4:36:03 PM] Dina : You all have no fucking idea how sexist my employer is
2375[28/12/2014, 4:36:17 PM] Dina : and what I had to do to get them to 1) change no.2 into a girl
2376[28/12/2014, 4:36:29 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also wait, won't feel right buying the game?
2377[28/12/2014, 4:36:38 PM] Ian Cheong: You got them to GASP CHANGE THEIR VISION OF A CHARACTER?
2378[28/12/2014, 4:36:39 PM] Dina : 2) make Beck's rival Ray into a black woman presenting androgynous
2379[28/12/2014, 4:36:51 PM] Peter Coffin: you had to sjw
2380[28/12/2014, 4:36:52 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ah
2381[28/12/2014, 4:36:59 PM] Charloppe: that sounds cool
2382[28/12/2014, 4:37:03 PM] Peter Coffin: and sjw game is bad
2383[28/12/2014, 4:37:06 PM] Peter Coffin: grrrrrr
2384[28/12/2014, 4:37:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, that's a sad thing to learn
2385[28/12/2014, 4:37:21 PM] Dina : 3) add another big character as female which I can't tell you about because they have not been revealed yet
2386[28/12/2014, 4:37:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: although good for you
2387[28/12/2014, 4:37:36 PM] Dina : oh MN9 still has the trademark japanese underlying sexism
2388[28/12/2014, 4:37:42 PM] Ian Cheong: You're enacting change from within.
2389[28/12/2014, 4:37:42 PM] Quinnae: Heh, nicely done, Dina. I am so very sorry about everything you had to endure though. I first heard about all this from MiB, I'm afraid I missed all of this as it was happening.
2390[28/12/2014, 4:37:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well yeah
2391[28/12/2014, 4:37:45 PM] Charloppe: i appreciate you for speaking up dina
2392[28/12/2014, 4:38:09 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, honestly it’s not difficult to believe coming from a company headed by the guy who made mega MAN
2393[28/12/2014, 4:38:09 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: that's awesome you were able to influence things, dina. sorry things were so hard for you :(
2394[28/12/2014, 4:38:17 PM] Peter Coffin: but it’s so awesome you did this
2395[28/12/2014, 4:38:27 PM] Dina : yeah I'm not gonna tell you about my boss in particular because HOLY SHIT
2396[28/12/2014, 4:38:45 PM] Dina : thank you... Iwas just gonna keep my head down and not say anything SJW-ey when I first got the job
2397[28/12/2014, 4:38:57 PM] Dina : but after they tried to get me fired/kill myself
2398[28/12/2014, 4:39:02 PM] Dina : I went full feminist
2399[28/12/2014, 4:39:09 PM] Dina : and it kinda worked haha
2400[28/12/2014, 4:39:13 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: #FullFeminist
2401[28/12/2014, 4:39:16 PM] SF: They really do only create what they seek to destroy.
2402[28/12/2014, 4:39:19 PM] Ian Cheong: #fullMcIntosh
2403[28/12/2014, 4:39:23 PM] Dina : but I'm definitely at the end of my rope now ^^;
2404[28/12/2014, 4:39:27 PM] Charloppe: #fullmole
2405[28/12/2014, 4:39:27 PM] Dina : lol Ian
2406[28/12/2014, 4:39:38 PM] Dina : #fullholes
2407[28/12/2014, 4:39:40 PM] Quinnae: hugs Dina
2408[28/12/2014, 4:39:42 PM] Dina : ...sorry
2409[28/12/2014, 4:39:43 PM] SF: Your boss being who I think it is I assume.
2410[28/12/2014, 4:39:46 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry dina
2411[28/12/2014, 4:39:48 PM] Dina : *hugs*
2412[28/12/2014, 4:39:56 PM] SF: I'm really sorry to hear all that either way, ugh.
2413[28/12/2014, 4:39:59 PM] Quinnae: Always, always go FullPetiteMistress.
2414[28/12/2014, 4:40:05 PM] Peter Coffin: agreed
2415[28/12/2014, 4:40:09 PM] Dina : my boss is Keiji Inafune. A nice man, but a man borne out of his own time and society at the end of the day
2416[28/12/2014, 4:40:24 PM] Remy: Aww I was AFK I'm so sorry to hear you have a sexist boss :(
2417[28/12/2014, 4:40:32 PM] Dina : (he's been really good to me personally just to be clear)
2418[28/12/2014, 4:40:41 PM] Dina : it's just the general ambience
2419[28/12/2014, 4:40:53 PM] Remy: OMG the other day my husband's boss said the most disgusting thing to another employee
2420[28/12/2014, 4:41:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: there IS a certain degree of culture clash there too, presumably
2421[28/12/2014, 4:41:08 PM] Charloppe: :/ im glad inafune isnt being horrible to you
2422[28/12/2014, 4:41:23 PM] Ian Cheong: im glad inafune isn't a bad dude.
2423[28/12/2014, 4:41:28 PM] Ian Cheong: even if he is a relic of the ages
2424[28/12/2014, 4:41:29 PM] Remy: She went up to another woman (a subordinate) and asked "Are you pregnant? Because you're getting fat"
2425[28/12/2014, 4:41:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Japan in general is... kinda not great with respectful depictions of women in things
2426[28/12/2014, 4:41:36 PM] Charloppe: yeah that would hurt to hear ian
2427[28/12/2014, 4:41:48 PM] Ian Cheong: i grew up on Mega Man
2428[28/12/2014, 4:41:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: also gay and trans folk
2429[28/12/2014, 4:42:00 PM] Peter Coffin: same ian
2430[28/12/2014, 4:42:13 PM] Peter Coffin: japan is clueless with women
2431[28/12/2014, 4:42:17 PM] Dina : SGG you don't know the half of it
2432[28/12/2014, 4:42:25 PM] Dina : it's been hell working here
2433[28/12/2014, 4:42:31 PM] Dina : but a pleasure studying tbh
2434[28/12/2014, 4:42:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... which is why I'm still on the fence about maybe writing some rambling thing about Kamen Rider Wizard
2435[28/12/2014, 4:42:43 PM] Peter Coffin: I have watched a lot of anime and just from that I can tell you it’s horrifying for women in japan
2436[28/12/2014, 4:42:43 PM] SF: Japan kinda isn't great with real women either.
2437[28/12/2014, 4:42:48 PM] Remy: I wonder though
2438[28/12/2014, 4:43:01 PM] Dina : The type of stuff comcept makes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BuVfeDhQHI
2439[28/12/2014, 4:43:11 PM] Remy: If people start producing more women-positive media, will the women of Japan start showing that in their consumption?
2440[28/12/2014, 4:43:24 PM] Remy: And, more importantly, would Japanese media studios pay attention?
2441[28/12/2014, 4:43:36 PM] Dina : the women of Japan bless their heart should have been fighting an uphill battle and I respect them so fucking much
2442[28/12/2014, 4:43:55 PM] SF: I'll be surprised if we can get America to accept it.
2443[28/12/2014, 4:43:56 PM] Dina : the media and society in general are all about the status quo and "not making waves"
2444[28/12/2014, 4:44:26 PM] SF: Yeah isn't that why 2ch was invented? As an outlet without societal pressures to conform.
2445[28/12/2014, 4:44:36 PM] SF: (Though it went radcon much like its children)
2446[28/12/2014, 4:44:37 PM] Quinnae: One of my favourite books in my home library is an anthology entitled simply Japanese Women. It was a Feminist Press text from the early 1990s which, sadly, has not been updated. But it's quite a good primer on gender politics in postwar Japan.
2447[28/12/2014, 4:44:52 PM] Dina : <3
2448[28/12/2014, 4:45:11 PM] SF: I hate how every time sexism in Japan comes up online some guy says something like "Well my wife is Japanese and she says they don't want Western Feminism there."
2449[28/12/2014, 4:45:21 PM] Remy: Honestly we can always point to solutions like "We need more women in tech, we need more women in politics"
2450[28/12/2014, 4:45:23 PM] Peter Coffin: oh shit connection made
2451[28/12/2014, 4:45:23 PM] SF: Implicitly concluding there is no sexism there and American women are just whiny.
2452[28/12/2014, 4:45:25 PM] Dina : 9______9
2453[28/12/2014, 4:45:30 PM] Remy: But I feel like we're not really getting to the root of the problem
2454[28/12/2014, 4:45:33 PM] Quinnae: Japan has a long independent feminist tradition.
2455[28/12/2014, 4:45:52 PM] Remy: "We need the world's children to grow up hearing stories and seeing examples of women being treated and accepted as whole beings with agency and freedom"
2456[28/12/2014, 4:45:56 PM] Quinnae: Influenced by the West only inasmuch as, say, the entire Meiji Restoration was influenced by the West.
2457[28/12/2014, 4:45:58 PM] Dina : hi! Middle Eastern woman here, and if I had a penny for every white american using us as a deflector against feminism ARRRGH
2458[28/12/2014, 4:45:58 PM] SF: Yeah it's a nice way to twist a genuine sentiment into meaning the opposite of what it does.
2459[28/12/2014, 4:46:07 PM] Remy: So that it becomes a natural reaction to have women in tech, in politics
2460[28/12/2014, 4:46:07 PM] Peter Coffin: so think about this, how many western MRA/GG LOVE and HAVE GROWN UP ON anime
2461[28/12/2014, 4:46:18 PM] Charloppe: sigh insert murrica here
2462[28/12/2014, 4:46:23 PM] Ian Cheong: There was a survey on reddit's r/mensrights
2463[28/12/2014, 4:46:26 PM] Ian Cheong: to find out what their ages were
2464[28/12/2014, 4:46:32 PM] Ian Cheong: mostof them are 18-19
2465[28/12/2014, 4:46:33 PM] Remy: oh god
2466[28/12/2014, 4:46:37 PM] Remy: XD
2467[28/12/2014, 4:46:38 PM] Ian Cheong: white males
2468[28/12/2014, 4:46:41 PM] Remy: gasp
2469[28/12/2014, 4:46:43 PM] Peter Coffin: most likely love anime
2470[28/12/2014, 4:46:47 PM] Peter Coffin: have grown up on anime
2471[28/12/2014, 4:46:55 PM] Peter Coffin: aaaaaaaaaaaaand
2472[28/12/2014, 4:46:59 PM] Peter Coffin: are super misogynistic
2473[28/12/2014, 4:47:01 PM] Dina : but Peter
2474[28/12/2014, 4:47:03 PM] Dina : Peter
2475[28/12/2014, 4:47:05 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: well you see dina, in some parts of the middle east the treatment of women is abhorrent. therefor NO GENDER ISSUES EXIST IN THE WESTERN WORLD. clearly! how can you not see this
2476[28/12/2014, 4:47:09 PM] SF: Rare footage of an MRA in meatspace: https://twitter.com/BigRedDreck/status/548684170289885184
2477[28/12/2014, 4:47:14 PM] Dina : Think of arab women shackled to camels tho
2478[28/12/2014, 4:47:17 PM] Dina : Peter
2479[28/12/2014, 4:47:19 PM] Charloppe: bad sarah
2480[28/12/2014, 4:47:23 PM] Peter Coffin: lol dina
2481[28/12/2014, 4:47:27 PM] Dina : shouldn't feminism solve THAT first?
2482[28/12/2014, 4:47:27 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe tackles sarah as moleball
2483[28/12/2014, 4:47:34 PM] Quinnae: I'm sorry I keep promoting my writing here, but the film I describe here may be of interest to those who want some hint of that independent Japanese feminism. ;) http://feministing.com/2014/05/15/burning-the-single-story-how-modern-japanese-art-shatters-relativist-myths/
2484[28/12/2014, 4:47:37 PM] Dina : shame on you, American Feminists!
2485[28/12/2014, 4:47:45 PM] Dina : Kath, yay! <3
2486[28/12/2014, 4:47:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: bookmarked for later reading katherine ^^
2487[28/12/2014, 4:48:00 PM] Charloppe: im just a femninist padawan qq
2488[28/12/2014, 4:48:02 PM] SF: We should have just assigned our Universal Feminism Points into the Middle East tech tree first.
2489[28/12/2014, 4:48:07 PM] Dina : Sarah <3 lol
2490[28/12/2014, 4:48:12 PM] Charloppe: my sjw powers are not strong
2491[28/12/2014, 4:48:41 PM] Remy: what
2492[28/12/2014, 4:48:46 PM] Remy: Charlotte the force is strong with you
2493[28/12/2014, 4:48:58 PM] Remy: You are the eye of a hurricane of destiny
2494[28/12/2014, 4:48:59 PM] Charloppe: not my sjw powers though
2495[28/12/2014, 4:48:59 PM] Quinnae: pets Charlotte You grow stronger everyday.
2496[28/12/2014, 4:49:03 PM] Remy: ^
2497[28/12/2014, 4:49:09 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe mole purrs
2498[28/12/2014, 4:49:11 PM] Remy: patient, you must be
2499[28/12/2014, 4:49:17 PM] Peter Coffin: have a tab open with it katherine
2500[28/12/2014, 4:49:20 PM] Quinnae: You, my Snarfybarf, will rise to greatness.
2501[28/12/2014, 4:49:21 PM] Dina : moles purr? ._.
2502[28/12/2014, 4:49:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: charloppe sadie will dig you up out of the ground and chase you
2503[28/12/2014, 4:49:34 PM] Ian Cheong: "reals not feels" - yoda
2504[28/12/2014, 4:49:35 PM] Dina : ...Snarfybarf?
2505[28/12/2014, 4:49:40 PM] Charloppe: can i fire sjw lightning?
2506[28/12/2014, 4:49:42 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl ian
2507[28/12/2014, 4:49:45 PM] Dina : LOL Ian
2508[28/12/2014, 4:49:50 PM] Peter Coffin: ian you fucker
2509[28/12/2014, 4:49:52 PM] Peter Coffin: hahahha
2510[28/12/2014, 4:50:15 PM] Charloppe: sarah i was just mole purring
2511[28/12/2014, 4:50:17 PM] Charloppe: so mean
2512[28/12/2014, 4:50:33 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe goes to hide behind katherine
2513[28/12/2014, 4:50:35 PM] SF: We need a roleplaying chat.
2514[28/12/2014, 4:50:38 PM] Remy: she's molepurring
2515[28/12/2014, 4:50:42 PM] Remy: ^
2516[28/12/2014, 4:50:49 PM] Dina : SF no it would be constant spanking
2517[28/12/2014, 4:50:58 PM] Dina : just hands and Butts
2518[28/12/2014, 4:51:04 PM] Dina : the humanity
2519[28/12/2014, 4:51:05 PM] Remy: XD
2520[28/12/2014, 4:51:09 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe grabs sarahs butt
2521[28/12/2014, 4:51:18 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: oh my
2522[28/12/2014, 4:51:20 PM] Charloppe: teehee get it?
2523[28/12/2014, 4:51:21 PM] Dina : buttception
2524[28/12/2014, 4:51:22 PM] Charloppe: im funny
2525[28/12/2014, 4:51:28 PM] Quinnae: Snarfybarf is my nickname for Charlotte.
2526[28/12/2014, 4:51:44 PM] Quinnae: Her Twitter nick, Nibelsnarfabarf, lent itself to that. ;)
2527[28/12/2014, 4:51:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i can't waittttt for new monster hunter
2528[28/12/2014, 4:52:09 PM] Charloppe: it is the best name i ever thought of
2529[28/12/2014, 4:52:35 PM] Dina : haha
2530[28/12/2014, 4:52:45 PM] Dina : I need to get on top everyone's names
2531[28/12/2014, 4:52:59 PM] Dina : it still weirds me out when random on the internet address me as "Dina"
2532[28/12/2014, 4:53:03 PM] Dina : bro you don't know me
2533[28/12/2014, 4:53:10 PM] Dina : you don't know what I been thru
2534[28/12/2014, 4:53:10 PM] Charloppe: hello dina :3
2535[28/12/2014, 4:53:28 PM] Dina : also I want a cute nickname also Charlotte goddamn why am I nosebleeding
2536[28/12/2014, 4:53:33 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: rofl
2537[28/12/2014, 4:53:48 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe gets a tissue for dinas nosebleed
2538[28/12/2014, 4:53:50 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: FINE FINE DINA i'll never call you dina again </3
2539[28/12/2014, 4:54:23 PM] Charloppe: your nose is bleeding cause you have discovered mole in your life
2540[28/12/2014, 4:54:43 PM] Dina : I should clarify no one here counts as a rando lol
2541[28/12/2014, 4:54:53 PM] Dina : so feel free to call me Dina
2542[28/12/2014, 4:54:58 PM] Dina : or whatever else you want
2543[28/12/2014, 4:55:04 PM] Quinnae: curtsies
2544[28/12/2014, 4:55:23 PM] Charloppe: wow enforcing the binary again katherine
2545[28/12/2014, 4:55:33 PM] Ian Cheong: the comments in this thread holy shit
2546[28/12/2014, 4:55:34 PM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlpst/hotwheels_gets_invited_to_write_an_article_on/
2547[28/12/2014, 4:55:42 PM] Ian Cheong: > white nationalism
2548[28/12/2014, 4:55:44 PM] Ian Cheong: What exactly is wrong with the white race having their own nation?
2549[28/12/2014, 4:55:47 PM] Ian Cheong: endquote.
2550[28/12/2014, 4:55:52 PM] Dina : ...
2551[28/12/2014, 4:55:59 PM] Dina : Dina  burns the Internet
2552[28/12/2014, 4:56:50 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe is sorry she be white mole
2553[28/12/2014, 4:57:11 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe gets more gas for burning internet
2554[28/12/2014, 4:57:17 PM] Dina : woohoo!
2555[28/12/2014, 4:57:39 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe gets charizard to use flamethrower
2556[28/12/2014, 4:57:53 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Hahaha a gamergater screencapped one of my bedtime story tweets like "HOW IS THIS GUY A PROFESSIONAL WRITER"
2557[28/12/2014, 4:57:57 PM] Dina : Dina  throws in Hotwheels
2558[28/12/2014, 4:58:00 PM] Alex Lifschitz: like, WHIFF
2559[28/12/2014, 4:58:02 PM] Dina : ...too far?
2560[28/12/2014, 4:58:18 PM] Charloppe: considering hes defended cp
2561[28/12/2014, 4:58:21 PM] Charloppe: no feels
2562[28/12/2014, 4:58:26 PM] SF: I saw that hahaha
2563[28/12/2014, 4:58:52 PM] Dina : Charlotte, same
2564[28/12/2014, 4:58:55 PM] Dina : gah
2565[28/12/2014, 4:58:59 PM] Ian Cheong: Kiwikku got banned from kotakuinaction
2566[28/12/2014, 4:59:06 PM] Dina : mom wants to do mom things like spend dad's money
2567[28/12/2014, 4:59:19 PM] Dina : so I'm taking her out
2568[28/12/2014, 4:59:22 PM] Dina : permanently.
2569[28/12/2014, 4:59:22 PM] Charloppe: may he pretend to be black in some other subbreddit
2570[28/12/2014, 4:59:30 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2q0412/a_message_to_gamergate/cn2186s
2571[28/12/2014, 4:59:33 PM] Charloppe: lololol
2572[28/12/2014, 5:00:59 PM] Alex Lifschitz: eyyyy, got a 96% verified follower rating
2573[28/12/2014, 5:01:18 PM] Quinnae: Hah, Charlotte.
2574[28/12/2014, 5:01:46 PM] Dina : whoop
2575[28/12/2014, 5:02:03 PM] Quinnae: And, dear gods, yes, these people tacitly or even explicitly defending white nationalism... it's just plain scary, Ian. I'm genuinely unsettled.
2576[28/12/2014, 5:02:08 PM] Dina : ok gonna hang with the maternal unit so I'll ttyl lovely people <3
2577[28/12/2014, 5:02:15 PM] Quinnae: Take care, Dina.
2578[28/12/2014, 5:02:16 PM] Quinnae: <3
2579[28/12/2014, 5:02:20 PM] Charloppe: byyyyyye
2580[28/12/2014, 5:02:31 PM] Remy: I don't know what adiabatic means so I can't tell if that gator used the term correctly
2581[28/12/2014, 5:02:59 PM] Quinnae: This is the logical endpoint of unchecked, context-agnostic free speech zealotry; it leaves no room for moral considerations (ironically enough, in this case).
2582[28/12/2014, 5:03:39 PM] Quinnae: "relating to or denoting a process or condition in which heat does not enter or leave the system concerned." ~Stephen
2583[28/12/2014, 5:03:48 PM] Ian Cheong: "SJWs should be opposed to social healthcare since Nazi Germany had that too. Right now only people with a fair amount of money can afford genetic screening before having children, a socialist program for it can prevent a genetic disease. If I was a parent I'd then use embryo selection or find another source of sperm/egg. People already do prenatal testing regularly. Advanced eugenics(mutation selection, genetic engineering) which is probably what they're thinking of; does not exist, it's still science fiction. And when it becomes available I guarantee the rich will take advantage of it while trying to limit everyone else from it. Guess where hate for eugenics came from? The Catholic church. Yes, SJWs are supporting a ban the Catholics put in place."
2584[28/12/2014, 5:04:10 PM] Remy: Thank you, Katherine <3
2585[28/12/2014, 5:04:15 PM] Charloppe: headdesk
2586[28/12/2014, 5:04:25 PM] Quinnae: Quinnae facepalms. "By the Goddess and Her Consort, this is frightening."
2587[28/12/2014, 5:04:31 PM] Quinnae: I just can't with these people.
2588[28/12/2014, 5:04:43 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: katherine i don't know if you saw my mentions earlier when i posted what hotwheels was going to write for
2589[28/12/2014, 5:04:45 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: but someone was like
2590[28/12/2014, 5:04:49 PM] Charloppe: again how do you all deal with this
2591[28/12/2014, 5:04:51 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: legit confused as to how i could possibly object
2592[28/12/2014, 5:04:55 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: since it's legal
2593[28/12/2014, 5:04:58 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i was just baffled
2594[28/12/2014, 5:04:58 PM] Remy: I hate the holidays there's never any new episodes out
2595[28/12/2014, 5:05:15 PM] Quinnae: And it's also hard not to take this personally. Eugenics programmes were deployed against Puerto Rican women throughout the 20th Century, sterilising them. I'm rather lucky to exist, in one way of looking at things.
2596[28/12/2014, 5:05:34 PM] Charloppe: Charloppe hugs katherine
2597[28/12/2014, 5:06:02 PM] Remy: This world is so terrifying
2598[28/12/2014, 5:06:03 PM] Quinnae: Yeah, Sarah, I address that in one of my forthcoming papers. "Gamified ethics" I call it.
2599[28/12/2014, 5:06:03 PM] Charloppe: i have alot of respect for you all dealing with this
2600[28/12/2014, 5:06:12 PM] Quinnae: hugs Snarfybarf
2601[28/12/2014, 5:06:44 PM] Quinnae: Anyway, I have a lovely girlfriend who's patiently waiting for me to come to bed, so I should go do that.
2602[28/12/2014, 5:06:55 PM] Charloppe: go cuddle!
2603[28/12/2014, 5:06:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: nini katherine!
2604[28/12/2014, 5:07:02 PM] Charloppe: night katherine
2605[28/12/2014, 5:07:03 PM] Ian Cheong: "I am not a nazi, I just write articles endorsing eugenics in nazi publications" - hotwheels https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/with_replies
2606[28/12/2014, 5:07:05 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: yes, i'm sure cuddling is all they'll do ~
2607[28/12/2014, 5:07:14 PM] Ian Cheong: later kath
2608[28/12/2014, 5:07:14 PM] Quinnae: Take care everyone. And do be ethical (Not as a joke! Actual ethics!) Take care-- good chat tonight!
2609[28/12/2014, 5:07:27 PM] Charloppe: niiight
2610[28/12/2014, 5:07:31 PM] Peter Coffin: goodnight kathering
2611[28/12/2014, 5:07:34 PM] Peter Coffin: katherine
2612[28/12/2014, 5:07:42 PM] Peter Coffin: be well!
2613[28/12/2014, 5:07:43 PM] Remy: While MRA's post pictures of women and rate which they like the most
2614[28/12/2014, 5:07:53 PM] Remy: I watch YT videos ranking best Muppet movies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8udJXSvYZQ
2615[28/12/2014, 5:08:07 PM] Remy: #winning
2616[28/12/2014, 5:08:11 PM] Remy: #BetaAsFuck
2617[28/12/2014, 5:08:11 PM] Peter Coffin: mupoganist
2618[28/12/2014, 5:08:16 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: good call
2619[28/12/2014, 5:08:31 PM] Charloppe: song stuck again
2620[28/12/2014, 5:08:36 PM] Charloppe: curse you chat
2621[28/12/2014, 5:09:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: hmm
2622[28/12/2014, 5:10:06 PM] Remy: which? whom?
2623[28/12/2014, 5:10:20 PM] Remy: my command of grammar drifts in and out
2624[28/12/2014, 5:10:29 PM] Charloppe: betaasfuck
2625[28/12/2014, 5:10:34 PM] Remy: ^
2626[28/12/2014, 5:10:34 PM] Charloppe: literally singing it
2627[28/12/2014, 5:10:41 PM] Remy: (dance)
2628[28/12/2014, 5:10:55 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I think I'm finally at the point in GG saturation where I honestly have no fucking clue what half their threads are about. It's just fucking buzzword salad at this point.
2629[28/12/2014, 5:11:14 PM] Remy: shill
2630[28/12/2014, 5:11:19 PM] Ian Cheong: Did you see the two threads I linked Alex?
2631[28/12/2014, 5:11:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: they do seem to be growing less and less coherent over time
2632[28/12/2014, 5:11:54 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Which ones?
2633[28/12/2014, 5:12:05 PM] Ian Cheong: this one: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlpst/hotwheels_gets_invited_to_write_an_article_on/
2634[28/12/2014, 5:12:22 PM] Ian Cheong: and https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/with_replies
2635[28/12/2014, 5:12:40 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I mean, yeah, i think our strength is self-awareness so we tend to ease back on SJ concepts if we know we're speaking to a wide audience, on 8chan right now it's all CULTURAL MARXIST SHILL KEK
2636[28/12/2014, 5:12:53 PM] Ian Cheong: Aha yeah
2637[28/12/2014, 5:12:54 PM] Ian Cheong: word salad.
2638[28/12/2014, 5:13:09 PM] Ian Cheong: they've gotten worse
2639[28/12/2014, 5:13:16 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Holy fucking shit I hope someone is archiving his replies.
2640[28/12/2014, 5:13:37 PM] Ian Cheong: you bet.
2641[28/12/2014, 5:13:42 PM] Alex Lifschitz: "in any case, eugenics was practiced in many countries other than nazi germany. i am not a nazi, educate yourselves my gamerghazi fans :^)"
2642[28/12/2014, 5:14:05 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: uh
2643[28/12/2014, 5:14:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: "and, thank you gamerghazi for hyping my article before it goes out
2644are you really surprised the owner of a chan is trolling? really?"
2645[28/12/2014, 5:14:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: someone should really tell GG that the problem with the nazis wasnt that their name was "the nazis"
2646[28/12/2014, 5:14:35 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Writing a pro-eugenics piece for a white nationalist rag is now "trolling" everyone
2647[28/12/2014, 5:14:40 PM] Ian Cheong: https://archive.today/h97kk
2648[28/12/2014, 5:15:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: while on the subject, was it made public knowledge that he also owned Wizardchan?
2649[28/12/2014, 5:16:11 PM] Ian Cheong: not a lot of people know that
2650[28/12/2014, 5:16:23 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah
2651[28/12/2014, 5:17:17 PM] Ian Cheong: he made up some pathetic lie about how zoe was posting shit about herself on wizardchan and he can verify this by checking the IP logs ------ except, admins on chan sites don't have this ability.
2652[28/12/2014, 5:18:01 PM] Ian Cheong: someone on ghazi debunked that better than I just did
2653[28/12/2014, 5:21:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ugh
2654[28/12/2014, 5:21:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://twitter.com/ChloeSagal
2655[28/12/2014, 5:22:31 PM] Ian Cheong: um
2656[28/12/2014, 5:22:42 PM] Ian Cheong: dids he get her name legally changed?
2657[28/12/2014, 5:22:55 PM] Ian Cheong: did she*
2658[28/12/2014, 5:24:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: No clue, the "ugh" was more to the retweets from her mentions than the paypal thing
2659[28/12/2014, 5:24:25 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah shes getting a lot of shit from shitty gators
2660[28/12/2014, 5:24:45 PM] Ian Cheong: so nice of them to go after someone so vulnerable.
2661[28/12/2014, 5:29:24 PM] Peter Coffin: I don’t get why they do that, she doesn’t do anything to like signal boost herself, they attack her and she responds
2662[28/12/2014, 5:29:31 PM] Peter Coffin: that’s basically it
2663[28/12/2014, 5:29:42 PM] Ian Cheong: yeah she just wants to be left alone
2664[28/12/2014, 5:30:15 PM] Ian Cheong: she doesn't even like people showing compassion to her.
2665[28/12/2014, 5:32:43 PM] Dan Olson: It's a master troll
2666[28/12/2014, 5:33:32 PM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlpst/hotwheels_gets_invited_to_write_an_article_on/cn79uo2 hotwheels responds
2667[28/12/2014, 5:33:32 PM] Dan Olson: "I will tell these people exactly what they want to hear in a tone that will be indistinguishable from complete sympathetic support"
2668[28/12/2014, 5:35:16 PM] Dan Olson: "I'm not a white nationalist (I live in Philippines lmao)."
2669[28/12/2014, 5:35:23 PM] Dan Olson: as... though... that changes things?
2670[28/12/2014, 5:35:29 PM] Peter Coffin: oh it does
2671[28/12/2014, 5:35:41 PM] Peter Coffin: like… he is a racist in someone else’s country, not his own
2672[28/12/2014, 5:35:58 PM] Peter Coffin: white internationalist
2673[28/12/2014, 5:36:04 PM] Dan Olson: pffft
2674[28/12/2014, 5:36:06 PM] Dan Olson: hahaah
2675[28/12/2014, 5:36:12 PM] Dan Olson: perfect
2676[28/12/2014, 5:36:22 PM] Peter Coffin: classic hotwheels
2677[28/12/2014, 5:37:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so did he actually flee the country?
2678[28/12/2014, 5:37:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... to one I'm pretty sure we have an extridition treaty with?
2679[28/12/2014, 5:37:49 PM] Dan Olson: He claims "no"
2680[28/12/2014, 5:37:51 PM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549137035328376833
2681[28/12/2014, 5:37:53 PM] Peter Coffin: I had to
2682[28/12/2014, 5:38:21 PM] Ian Cheong: international man of misogyny
2683[28/12/2014, 5:38:27 PM] Peter Coffin: LOL
2684[28/12/2014, 5:38:34 PM] Peter Coffin: oh my god tweet that
2685[28/12/2014, 5:38:50 PM] Dan Olson: Though I suspect the offer to move there, given the expense and complexity due to his condition, was sweetened by putting some distance between himself and 935 Pennsylvania Avenue
2686[28/12/2014, 5:39:37 PM] Ian Cheong: tweeted it at you peter.
2687[28/12/2014, 5:39:49 PM] Peter Coffin: retweeted
2688[28/12/2014, 5:39:51 PM] Peter Coffin: that is a great joke
2689[28/12/2014, 5:40:13 PM] Dan Olson: Because, let's face it, if you're fighting for free speech a shitty image board is a piss poor way of actually doing it.
2690[28/12/2014, 5:40:26 PM] Peter Coffin: in fact, one might say it’s regressive
2691[28/12/2014, 5:40:44 PM] Peter Coffin: as it does nothing for free speech to consolidate every single bit of abuse people claim as free speech into one thing
2692[28/12/2014, 5:40:49 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: am I the only one who sometimes gets the impression Brennan is just trying to commit suicide by lynch mob?
2693[28/12/2014, 5:41:27 PM] Dan Olson: and this whole response just says that making something resembling a living off running a scummy board means more than anything resembling dignity
2694[28/12/2014, 5:41:50 PM] Dan Olson: suicide by lynch mob is a bit extreme, but I do believe he's looking to be king of shit hill
2695[28/12/2014, 5:41:58 PM] Dan Olson: this gives him status
2696[28/12/2014, 5:42:14 PM] Dan Olson: that it's status among the worst humanity has to offer is irrelevant.
2697[28/12/2014, 5:42:17 PM] Ian Cheong: If your legacy was to run a third rate website dedicated to child pornography and white nationalism, wouldn't you want to commit suicide by lynch mob and feel somehow vindicated for your actions by being a 'free speech evangelist'?
2698[28/12/2014, 5:42:38 PM] Peter Coffin: don’t forget child pornography and pedophile discussion
2699[28/12/2014, 5:42:45 PM] Peter Coffin: oh you didn't
2700[28/12/2014, 5:42:46 PM] Peter Coffin: sorry
2701[28/12/2014, 5:42:52 PM] Peter Coffin: reading comprehension goes down at night
2702[28/12/2014, 5:43:08 PM] Dan Olson: you'd have to vindicate it that way
2703[28/12/2014, 5:43:21 PM] Dan Olson: unless you were also a pedophile nazi
2704[28/12/2014, 5:43:54 PM] Ian Cheong: Brennan's dump stat was clearly Wisdom.
2705[28/12/2014, 5:44:22 PM] Dan Olson: I was going to say "Con" but I felt bad even thinking it.
2706[28/12/2014, 5:45:03 PM] Ian Cheong: He was dealt a hard hand in life, but he played his cards even more poorly.
2707[28/12/2014, 5:45:12 PM] Dan Olson: also am I bonkers, or did he describe HuffPo as "far left"?
2708[28/12/2014, 5:45:25 PM] Ian Cheong: He did.
2709[28/12/2014, 5:45:31 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: well, you know, it's all relative
2710[28/12/2014, 5:45:40 PM] Ian Cheong: I suppose it's far left if you're a nazi
2711[28/12/2014, 5:45:54 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah that would make it pretty far left
2712[28/12/2014, 5:46:03 PM] Peter Coffin: being a nazi… like how he is
2713[28/12/2014, 5:49:27 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Secret Gamer Girl closes a huge pile of tags left open over the course of the day
2714[28/12/2014, 5:49:48 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: nazi stuff, MRA stuff, creepy GGer signs of solidarity...
2715[28/12/2014, 5:49:51 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.608006076323398166&pid=15.1&P=0
2716[28/12/2014, 5:50:34 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... that's a weirdly good segue back into the silly kids' show stuff I started the day off with right there.
2717[28/12/2014, 5:54:53 PM] Ian Cheong: "I am starting to think that huge part of the problem is education. Many people seem to have only Mickey Mouse grasp of the history and who was believed what. I guess that is what we get when we teach history as a black and white issue.
2718Eugenics was not Nazi only issue. All attempts to it made more harm then good (imo), but that still does not make it white supremacy issue. It was popular pretty much everywhere at that time - including United States."
2719[28/12/2014, 5:55:09 PM] Ian Cheong: what an idiot
2720[28/12/2014, 5:55:16 PM] Ian Cheong: its being published in a white nationalist publication
2721[28/12/2014, 5:56:32 PM] Ian Cheong: now here's an attempt to rewrite history. http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlwb8/polack_guesses_the_future_two_days_after_the/
2722[28/12/2014, 5:56:38 PM] Ian Cheong: 'the zoepost blew over'
2723[28/12/2014, 5:56:44 PM] Ian Cheong: explains why they're still all talking about it, right?
2724[28/12/2014, 5:56:52 PM] Peter Coffin: daily
2725[28/12/2014, 5:56:58 PM] Peter Coffin: hourly
2726[28/12/2014, 5:57:02 PM] Peter Coffin: minutely
2727[28/12/2014, 5:57:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Nonsense! They never even mention her! Except for the 20000 times a day when someone gets confused about who their codenames refer to
2728[28/12/2014, 5:57:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and the 500000 times a day they have to remind someone it's not about her
2729[28/12/2014, 5:58:09 PM] Peter Coffin: lol mountain dew?
2730[28/12/2014, 5:58:29 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and the other 480000 times a day they talk about her prompting those reminders
2731[28/12/2014, 5:59:20 PM] Peter Coffin: also they retweet all of it
2732[28/12/2014, 6:00:51 PM] SF: I bought Nidhogg. Zoe I'm coming for your crown.
2733[28/12/2014, 6:00:58 PM] SF: We'll meet on the battlefield one day.
2734[28/12/2014, 6:06:41 PM] Peter Coffin: have we discussed the pedophillia/sex tourism links with the Philippines
2735[28/12/2014, 6:07:18 PM] Peter Coffin: wife just said this to me and if it’s been discussed here I missed it
2736[28/12/2014, 6:07:19 PM] Peter Coffin: like, it makes a lot of sense that a guy who runs a board with child porn also lives in a place notorious for white pedophiles getting off
2737[28/12/2014, 6:07:47 PM] Peter Coffin: I don’t know that she’s aware of his want to evade taxes and that kind of stuff
2738[28/12/2014, 6:07:51 PM] Peter Coffin: but it is a link
2739[28/12/2014, 6:08:03 PM] Peter Coffin: "Philippines: Child sex tourism is known as a serious problem in the Philippines. The Trafficking in Persons Report of 2010 reports of tourists coming from Northeast Asia, Australia, Europe and North America to engage in sex with children. With new technology like the internet, some children form cyber relationships with men from other countries and get money by sending pornographic images over the internet.[36]"
2740[28/12/2014, 6:13:07 PM] Peter Coffin: http://www.roughguides.com/destinations/asia/philippines/travel-essentials/prostitution-sex-tourism/
2741[28/12/2014, 6:13:20 PM] Peter Coffin: [12/28/14, 3:12:10 AM] Ashleigh Coffin: Child Protection in the Philippines (wcpu-net.org.ph) estimates that almost half the prostitutes in the Philippines are underage, many of them street children lured from the provinces by the promise of work or simply food and water. If you suspect someone of being a paedophile or engaging in any abusive behaviour towards minors, call hotline t1-6-3 or check whttp://www.bantaybata163.com.
2742[12/28/14, 3:12:21 AM] Ashleigh Coffin: HALF underage
2743[28/12/2014, 6:19:17 PM] Peter Coffin: has this been seen here? http://i.imgur.com/dxN8BVz.jpg
2744[28/12/2014, 6:20:53 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: never saw that before
2745[28/12/2014, 6:21:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: hard to tell how young they are :\
2746[28/12/2014, 6:21:52 PM] Peter Coffin: she found it here
2747[28/12/2014, 6:21:57 PM] Peter Coffin: http://www.reddit.com/r/8chan/comments/2nmqjn/
2748[28/12/2014, 6:23:11 PM] Peter Coffin: if that statistic is true, one could assume half are too young
2749[28/12/2014, 6:23:41 PM] Peter Coffin: when my wife is bored she can kick serious ass on the internet
2750[28/12/2014, 6:24:04 PM] SF: Good finding. Also many ughs.
2751[28/12/2014, 6:24:24 PM] SF: That might be worth mentioning in Serious/adding to the Trello for future reference.
2752[28/12/2014, 6:24:48 PM] Peter Coffin: I’ll file in trello
2753[28/12/2014, 6:35:40 PM] Peter Coffin: filed https://trello.com/c/TBx5iFsi
2754[28/12/2014, 6:50:56 PM] Peter Coffin: also not relevant but I feel comfortable sharing creations with you folks, so before I go to bed here’s my silly new years resolution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT4enU63plY
2755[28/12/2014, 7:36:01 PM] Remy: ooh
2756[28/12/2014, 7:36:10 PM] Remy: finding some good research for the Internal Affairs game
2757[28/12/2014, 7:38:27 PM] Remy: Also a 2005 study published in the Journal of Criminal Justice apparently found no significant difference in the prevalence of use of force committed by male or female officers
2758[28/12/2014, 8:59:37 PM] Rob: Morning
2759[28/12/2014, 9:01:29 PM] Ian Cheong: Morning. I'm at a buffet
2760[28/12/2014, 9:01:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: you keep weird hours, ian
2761[28/12/2014, 9:02:04 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah. I don't sleep much either
2762[28/12/2014, 9:02:22 PM] Rob: Noms buffet
2763[28/12/2014, 9:02:32 PM] Rob: I'm finally starting true detective while raising skills in WoW
2764[28/12/2014, 9:02:36 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i wish i could do that. i've always slept too much, since i was little. it's frustrating. it feels like such a waste of time
2765[28/12/2014, 9:07:27 PM] Rob: My sleep schedule sucks
2766[28/12/2014, 9:08:02 PM] Ian Cheong: Sleeping is pointless
2767[28/12/2014, 10:34:41 PM] drinternetphd: what is sleep even
2768[28/12/2014, 10:35:02 PM] Rob: It's where I'm a Viking.
2769[28/12/2014, 11:17:24 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): good morning
2770[28/12/2014, 11:17:37 PM] Peter Coffin: morning folks
2771[28/12/2014, 11:17:59 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): morning, Peter
2772[28/12/2014, 11:18:23 PM] Rob: hi izzy, peter
2773[28/12/2014, 11:18:30 PM] Peter Coffin: hey izzy, rob
2774[28/12/2014, 11:20:45 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hi Rob
2775[28/12/2014, 11:26:57 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Huh, lots of GGers switching to 'neutral' lately. I wonder what could have caused this? ;) http://np.reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/
2776[28/12/2014, 11:27:48 PM] drinternetphd: writing a book sucks
2777[28/12/2014, 11:28:00 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): morning, Zoe
2778[28/12/2014, 11:28:11 PM] drinternetphd: or rather the things you have to do to facilitate writing a book suck
2779[28/12/2014, 11:28:14 PM] drinternetphd: morning
2780[28/12/2014, 11:28:28 PM] drinternetphd: though working on a pitch while the sun comes up over seattle isn't so bad
2781[28/12/2014, 11:28:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, you're back in Seattle?
2782[28/12/2014, 11:28:52 PM] drinternetphd: mhmm
2783[28/12/2014, 11:29:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Cool.
2784[28/12/2014, 11:30:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We should go out for coffee sometime, you me and Alex
2785[28/12/2014, 11:31:22 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): when things settle down, of course
2786[28/12/2014, 11:31:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :)
2787[28/12/2014, 11:32:14 PM] drinternetphd: yeah sure
2788[28/12/2014, 11:36:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So, Kiwikku wrote a goodbye to GamerGate: http://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstGamerGate/comments/2qlxfv/forced_to_be_neutral_i_have_no_mouth_and_i_must/
2789[28/12/2014, 11:40:07 PM] drinternetphd: "Continue to call out the LW's, but do it by writing blog posts and mediums refuting them, not by posting another useless thread on KiA or sending messages to them on Twitter."
2790[28/12/2014, 11:40:08 PM] drinternetphd: fuck you
2791[28/12/2014, 11:40:15 PM] drinternetphd: get a hobby you piece of shit
2792[28/12/2014, 11:42:07 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Love this person who called him out for that:
2793
2794
2795
2796    Continue to call out the LW's,
2797
2798Truly a noble goal, continuing to attack people who've already suffered horrifying bullshit for no reason at all. Keep up the good fight, man.
2799[28/12/2014, 11:42:19 PM] Peter Coffin: doopy diddles I’m leaving keep being shitty
2800[28/12/2014, 11:42:38 PM] drinternetphd: lol
2801[28/12/2014, 11:42:57 PM] drinternetphd: I am hoping to have an edited and polished pitch of this book by the end of jan
2802[28/12/2014, 11:43:08 PM] drinternetphd: only 21k words ._.
2803[28/12/2014, 11:43:15 PM] drinternetphd: that could change my life ._.
2804[28/12/2014, 11:43:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): no biggie
2805[28/12/2014, 11:43:22 PM] Peter Coffin: you only get
2806[28/12/2014, 11:43:25 PM] drinternetphd: nbd
2807[28/12/2014, 11:43:25 PM] Peter Coffin: one shot
2808[28/12/2014, 11:43:26 PM] Rob: Remember, your name is two words!
2809[28/12/2014, 11:43:29 PM] Peter Coffin: one opportunity
2810[28/12/2014, 11:43:32 PM] Rob: so that's 20,998 to go!
2811[28/12/2014, 11:43:35 PM] drinternetphd: my bio right now is
2812[28/12/2014, 11:43:40 PM] Peter Coffin: mom’s spaghetti
2813[28/12/2014, 11:43:54 PM] drinternetphd: "total asshole looking forward to the skeleton wars"
2814[28/12/2014, 11:44:01 PM] Peter Coffin: oh geez
2815[28/12/2014, 11:44:34 PM] Peter Coffin: yeah, that’s about right isn’t it
2816[28/12/2014, 11:44:38 PM] drinternetphd: p much
2817[28/12/2014, 11:44:45 PM] drinternetphd: though "mom's spaghetti" is a good 2nd runner up
2818[28/12/2014, 11:44:46 PM] Peter Coffin: not the asshole part
2819[28/12/2014, 11:45:01 PM] Peter Coffin: I didn’t tacitly agree with that
2820[28/12/2014, 11:45:10 PM] drinternetphd: too late you already put in a line break
2821[28/12/2014, 11:45:18 PM] Peter Coffin: …mom’s spaghetti
2822[28/12/2014, 11:45:28 PM] drinternetphd: just like a dragonfly
2823[28/12/2014, 11:45:38 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): You should wrote it from GG's perspective. jk
2824[28/12/2014, 11:45:54 PM] Peter Coffin: noooooooooooo welcome to misinterpreted book of the year
2825[28/12/2014, 11:45:55 PM] drinternetphd: idk if I can use 21k words to describe the inside of an anus
2826[28/12/2014, 11:46:12 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
2827[28/12/2014, 11:46:15 PM] Rob: Make it a fiction story about the life of a polyp
2828[28/12/2014, 11:46:18 PM] drinternetphd: "it's kinda dark in here and boy am i sure mad about video game people"
2829[28/12/2014, 11:46:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wait, what's that?... oh, god, i'm in Milo's ass, aren't I?
2830[28/12/2014, 11:46:51 PM] Peter Coffin: “despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage”
2831[28/12/2014, 11:46:57 PM] Peter Coffin: “except an ass"
2832[28/12/2014, 11:47:03 PM] drinternetphd: [soul collective voice] yeah
2833[28/12/2014, 11:47:19 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): THE WAR AGAINST THE NERD EXCLUSIONARY RADICAL FEMINISTS
2834[28/12/2014, 11:47:47 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): otherwise known as "GamerGate"
2835[28/12/2014, 11:47:50 PM] Peter Coffin: war has changed
2836[28/12/2014, 11:48:28 PM] Peter Coffin: war has sladed
2837[28/12/2014, 11:48:45 PM] Peter Coffin: kek has kekked
2838[28/12/2014, 11:50:20 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Actually, it's about ethics in writing book pitches
2839[28/12/2014, 11:51:29 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The ad showing in my Skype window is of Pillsbury biscuits. Now I'm hungry
2840[28/12/2014, 11:51:35 PM] Peter Coffin: I wonder if they will write a rebuttal book when your book happens zoe
2841[28/12/2014, 11:51:52 PM] Rob: Hey izzy
2842[28/12/2014, 11:51:58 PM] Rob: Do you have a link to hotwheels stormfront thing handy?
2843[28/12/2014, 11:52:05 PM] Rob: My friend wants to see it for the lulz
2844[28/12/2014, 11:52:18 PM] Peter Coffin: 1 moment
2845[28/12/2014, 11:52:22 PM] Rob: TY
2846[28/12/2014, 11:52:23 PM] drinternetphd: my book is only kind of about gamergate
2847[28/12/2014, 11:52:24 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): archive.today
2848[28/12/2014, 11:52:39 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oops, I meant to type that in my search. lol
2849[28/12/2014, 11:52:45 PM] Rob: :D
2850[28/12/2014, 11:52:49 PM] Peter Coffin: so it’s entirely about gamer gate when a gger reads it
2851[28/12/2014, 11:53:04 PM] Peter Coffin: is what you’re saying
2852[28/12/2014, 11:53:39 PM] drinternetphd: they always find a way to make anything I do about the
2853[28/12/2014, 11:53:40 PM] drinternetphd: *them
2854[28/12/2014, 11:54:18 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Rob: http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qjrw0/fredrick_hotwheels_brennan_outs_himself_as_a/
2855[28/12/2014, 11:54:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and the archive of the 8chan thread: https://archive.today/NMGM9
2856[28/12/2014, 11:54:40 PM] Rob: TY!
2857[28/12/2014, 11:54:51 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): np
2858[28/12/2014, 11:55:17 PM] Peter Coffin: adding that to trello card on hotwheels
2859[28/12/2014, 11:57:23 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "Now, of course certain people have come out of the woodwork to call me a Nazi, but that was exactly as planned. You guys need to realize that I'm the admin of 8chan, not the "leader" of GamerGate. Building hype around my business is my job, especially when we are strapped for cash and can't advertise directly." -- http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlpst/hotwheels_gets_invited_to_write_an_article_on/cn79uo2
2860[28/12/2014, 11:58:08 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): That's one way to run a business, I guess...
2861[28/12/2014, 11:58:38 PM] Peter Coffin: “strapped for cash” “moves to philippines and goes to clubs”
2862[28/12/2014, 11:59:06 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So, you're saying.... Hotwheels is a professional victim?
2863[28/12/2014, 11:59:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): DUN DUN DUN
2864[28/12/2014, 11:59:10 PM] drinternetphd: so much for ethics
2865[28/12/2014, 11:59:24 PM] Peter Coffin: zoe did you see the stuff my wife dug up?
2866[28/12/2014, 11:59:31 PM] drinternetphd: nope, been mostly working
2867[28/12/2014, 11:59:41 PM] drinternetphd: also UNF this bear claw e-cig shit goes so well with espresso
2868[28/12/2014, 11:59:51 PM] Peter Coffin: I made a trello card on brennan with it https://trello.com/c/TBx5iFsi
2869[29/12/2014, 12:00:05 AM] Peter Coffin: relates to cp/philippines
2870[29/12/2014, 12:00:17 AM] Peter Coffin: shady photo in this context
2871[29/12/2014, 12:00:22 AM] drinternetphd: eugh
2872[29/12/2014, 12:00:43 AM] drinternetphd: I mean
2873[29/12/2014, 12:00:48 AM] drinternetphd: its not exactly a smoking gun
2874[29/12/2014, 12:00:52 AM] Peter Coffin: no
2875[29/12/2014, 12:00:57 AM] Peter Coffin: circumstantial
2876[29/12/2014, 12:01:08 AM] Peter Coffin: but connects a couple dots, I promise you
2877[29/12/2014, 12:01:24 AM] Peter Coffin: which dots is the question, and are they all visible yet
2878[29/12/2014, 12:03:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA:
2879----------
2880
2881
2882
2883    I have historically allowed myself to be published in far left publications (HuffPo, Daily Dot). I see no difference in an opinion piece in a far right publication.
2884
2885Oh come on, do whatever you want, but don't use such ridiculous fake comparisions. There is no way you can seriously say that Daily Stormer is comparable to HuffPost of Daily Dot in terms of exremism.
2886[29/12/2014, 12:03:53 AM] Peter Coffin: hahaha
2887[29/12/2014, 12:04:10 AM] Peter Coffin: is that your commentary or someone elses?
2888[29/12/2014, 12:04:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Someone else
2889[29/12/2014, 12:04:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): in the thread I linked above
2890[29/12/2014, 12:04:32 AM] Peter Coffin: wow
2891[29/12/2014, 12:04:46 AM] Peter Coffin: they actually are turning on him
2892[29/12/2014, 12:05:18 AM] Peter Coffin: some at least
2893[29/12/2014, 12:05:43 AM] Peter Coffin: juicebro’s “not a full time lawyer right now" thing
2894[29/12/2014, 12:06:04 AM] Peter Coffin: basically “this fucker is going to fuck me if I stay involved"
2895[29/12/2014, 12:06:09 AM] Rob: Back, had to feed the chickens
2896[29/12/2014, 12:07:34 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Well, as much as GGers say they don't care about PR/image, they do. We dealt a huge blow with the CP issue and now Hotwheels is hurting their image more by writing for a White Supremacist website
2897[29/12/2014, 12:10:55 AM] Peter Coffin: cp issue is going to get worse for them, they indefinitely linked themselves to the idea cp is free speech/okay
2898[29/12/2014, 12:11:05 AM] Rob: Yep.
2899[29/12/2014, 12:13:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Holy shit, a GGer out of the loop asks the group of any positive news this last month. The responses are a bit depressing
2900[29/12/2014, 12:13:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlgvv/havent_been_following_gg_recently_how_much_has_gg/cn76aj0
2901[29/12/2014, 12:14:05 AM] Rob: haha
2902[29/12/2014, 12:14:41 AM] Rob: omg I can't stop laughing
2903[29/12/2014, 12:14:48 AM] Peter Coffin: “we defended child porn and literally ended it all”
2904[29/12/2014, 12:14:53 AM] Rob: I have so much schadenfreude right now because of what my old compatriots are doing
2905[29/12/2014, 12:15:29 AM] Peter Coffin: [–]EzraTwitch 0 points 8 hours ago 
2906Holiday season pretty much has us grinding to a halt if I am being honest. Not that it really matters we pretty much already won, we got almost everything we have asked for (except an apology), and that looks like its just not gong to happen. Cognitive Dissonance would literally kill them.
2907permalinksavereportgive goldreplybuffer
2908[–]GamergateOfficial 1 point 7 hours ago 
2909We need to go into rebuild phase.
2910permalinksaveparentreportgive goldreplybuffer
2911[29/12/2014, 12:15:31 AM] Peter Coffin: LOL
2912[29/12/2014, 12:15:36 AM] Peter Coffin: “we pretty much already one"
2913[29/12/2014, 12:15:44 AM] Peter Coffin: no, it wasn’t the holidays that grinder you to a halt
2914[29/12/2014, 12:15:48 AM] Peter Coffin: it was DEFENDING CHILD PORN
2915[29/12/2014, 12:16:12 AM] Peter Coffin: rebuild phase involves erasing that defense from history and we’re sure as fuck not going to let that happen
2916[29/12/2014, 12:16:44 AM] Peter Coffin: [–]Takonite 0 points 10 hours ago 
2917some antigamer might go to jail for DLing CP, that's a thing
2918not GG related though
2919permalinksavereportgive goldreplybuffer
2920[–]DillCrump [score hidden] 30 minutes ago 
2921lol, good luck with that
2922[29/12/2014, 12:16:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
2923[29/12/2014, 12:17:03 AM] Peter Coffin: like that person literally knows that isn’t happening
2924[29/12/2014, 12:17:28 AM] Peter Coffin: Honestly, it's been a relatively slow month in terms of 'happenings'. There are still issues being discussed, and the biggest thing right now is various controversies surrounding new Patreon policies, as well as various attempts by anti-GG to take down 8chan.
2925I figure things will likely change once the holidays are all done with.
2926[29/12/2014, 12:17:36 AM] Peter Coffin: that is super delusional
2927[29/12/2014, 12:20:18 AM] Ian Cheong: good morning
2928[29/12/2014, 12:20:24 AM] Peter Coffin: morning ian
2929[29/12/2014, 12:20:43 AM] Ian Cheong: did i miss anything big
2930[29/12/2014, 12:21:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I don't think so.
2931[29/12/2014, 12:21:15 AM] Rob: Hey ian
2932[29/12/2014, 12:25:06 AM] Ian Cheong: hey
2933[29/12/2014, 12:25:08 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qm1vs/creator_of_stopgamergate_hashtag_gets_asked_if_he/
2934[29/12/2014, 12:25:15 AM] Ian Cheong: sigh they are going after veerender again
2935[29/12/2014, 12:26:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tauriq is awesome: https://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa/status/549239180543680512 sums it up pretty well
2936[29/12/2014, 12:27:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Is /u/Logan_Mac mundanematt? I always see then submitting stuff from MundaneMatt
2937[29/12/2014, 12:27:21 AM] Ian Cheong: no
2938[29/12/2014, 12:27:22 AM] Ian Cheong: logan mac is logan mac
2939[29/12/2014, 12:27:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
2940[29/12/2014, 12:27:31 AM] Ian Cheong: hes on twitter too
2941[29/12/2014, 12:27:33 AM] Ian Cheong: i forget what his account is
2942[29/12/2014, 12:30:30 AM] Ian Cheong: I hope they don't go after Lauren Wainwright.
2943[29/12/2014, 12:30:39 AM] Ian Cheong: Logan Mac made a post about her and it's gaining a lot of traction
2944[29/12/2014, 12:31:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETHICS
2945[29/12/2014, 12:31:03 AM] Peter Coffin: yup
2946[29/12/2014, 12:31:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, this #OppressAGamer hashtag that is taking off
2947[29/12/2014, 12:33:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GGers don't read
2948[29/12/2014, 12:33:47 AM] Peter Coffin: book no hahahahaha no book no
2949[29/12/2014, 12:39:43 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hahaha jesus christ
2950
2951"We already won, you know. All is well in the Glorious Gamergate Republic. Glorious Leader Baldwin hits 18 hole-in-ones a day."
2952[29/12/2014, 12:40:04 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like, what did you win, updated disclosure policies? You mean "that thing you could get with a polite conversation with Stephen Totilo?"
2953[29/12/2014, 12:40:12 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also that thing that happened in, like, week 1?
2954[29/12/2014, 12:48:51 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I get the feeling TB is gonna have a real awkward time with game devs this year.
2955[29/12/2014, 12:49:45 AM] Peter Coffin: well correct me if I’m wrong, but Angry Joe is a male
2956[29/12/2014, 12:50:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ^
2957[29/12/2014, 12:51:20 AM] Randi Harper: who is locke742
2958[29/12/2014, 12:51:27 AM] Randi Harper: because they seem unnecessarily angry
2959[29/12/2014, 12:51:35 AM] Randi Harper: also confused
2960[29/12/2014, 12:52:21 AM] Ian Cheong: http://theralphretort.com/angryjoe-loses-composure-goes-off-gamergate-122714/
2961[29/12/2014, 12:52:30 AM] Ian Cheong: ralph's post on KIA got downvoted into oblivion
2962[29/12/2014, 12:52:42 AM] Ian Cheong: gators are finally getting sick of him
2963[29/12/2014, 12:52:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yup
2964[29/12/2014, 12:52:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, locke742 on Twitter? Where?
2965[29/12/2014, 12:53:34 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/locke742/status/549124026598432768
2966[29/12/2014, 12:53:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
2967[29/12/2014, 12:54:55 AM] Randi Harper: right?
2968[29/12/2014, 12:55:39 AM] Peter Coffin: uhhh
2969[29/12/2014, 12:56:15 AM] Randi Harper: that's the first time I've ever been to Ralph's site
2970[29/12/2014, 12:56:23 AM] Randi Harper: and his grammar is atrocious.
2971[29/12/2014, 12:56:31 AM] Randi Harper: that post also wasn't very impressive and I won't be going there again.
2972[29/12/2014, 12:56:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, he always makes typos and has horrible grammar
2973[29/12/2014, 12:56:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): But, he supports GG, so GGers will keep promoting his crap
2974[29/12/2014, 12:57:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): because he feeds them the rage they drive on
2975[29/12/2014, 12:57:18 AM] Ian Cheong: He's gotten some advertising deals from the likes of Roosh and his ilk for supporting GG
2976[29/12/2014, 12:57:23 AM] Ian Cheong: so he's actively making money off of this
2977[29/12/2014, 12:57:45 AM] Randi Harper: meh.
2978[29/12/2014, 12:58:59 AM] Randi Harper: he's written a lot of shitty posts that people keep quoting.
2979[29/12/2014, 12:59:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, if you have Rob on Facebook or Instagram, he is enjoying recording the chickens at his parents(?) house
2980[29/12/2014, 1:00:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): such ethics
2981[29/12/2014, 1:01:25 AM] Randi Harper: look, if you've got a good site that is well put together and you generally write interesting stuff, you can probably come out with a few attack articles that people will believe. but if you are consistently only putting out hit pieces on people, the only people that are going to believe you are the ones that society really shouldn't care about. these are the people that are looking to believe terrible shit. that if some crazy dude on a street corner said "IAN EATS BABIES" and was talking about some entirely different ian anyways, they'd still attribute it to you.
2982[29/12/2014, 1:01:48 AM] Peter Coffin: make “edgy” comment a decade ago, you are a nazi
2983[29/12/2014, 1:01:58 AM] Peter Coffin: write for nazi publication though?
2984[29/12/2014, 1:02:01 AM] Peter Coffin: nahhhhhhh
2985[29/12/2014, 1:02:03 AM] Ian Cheong: god tier mental gymnastics
2986[29/12/2014, 1:02:23 AM] Peter Coffin: write for nazi publication…. NOW
2987[29/12/2014, 1:02:24 AM] Randi Harper: no one of any consequence will believe this shit
2988[29/12/2014, 1:02:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, did Faruk finish his subreddit analysis of KiA?
2989[29/12/2014, 1:02:31 AM] Randi Harper: why do you think I've never been upset or really cared about meth babies?
2990[29/12/2014, 1:02:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So crazy that Milo started asking you stuff he read off ED
2991[29/12/2014, 1:03:02 AM] drinternetphd: no it's not
2992[29/12/2014, 1:03:12 AM] drinternetphd: he links to the ED articles on me in his shit about me on brietbart
2993[29/12/2014, 1:03:16 AM] Randi Harper: milo is a tool, and everyone knows it.
2994[29/12/2014, 1:03:17 AM] drinternetphd: he regularly uses them as a source
2995[29/12/2014, 1:03:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Uh
2996[29/12/2014, 1:03:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow
2997[29/12/2014, 1:03:24 AM] Peter Coffin: randi, a shitload of people believed my fake girlfriend incident. influential people from the youtube community and basically made sure I had no credibility there
2998[29/12/2014, 1:03:33 AM] Peter Coffin: you’d be surprised what people will believe
2999[29/12/2014, 1:03:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think we also caught TechRaptor quoting ED, too, when writing about Randi
3000[29/12/2014, 1:03:44 AM] drinternetphd: everyone loves a story.
3001[29/12/2014, 1:03:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): So many ethics
3002[29/12/2014, 1:03:52 AM] Ian Cheong: Zoe's right.
3003[29/12/2014, 1:04:20 AM] Randi Harper: so, I've had an ED article about me for like... what.. a decade?
3004[29/12/2014, 1:04:23 AM] Randi Harper: since the site was up
3005[29/12/2014, 1:04:25 AM] Ian Cheong: It's just depressing, you know?
3006[29/12/2014, 1:04:27 AM] Randi Harper: I was one of the first articles.
3007[29/12/2014, 1:04:37 AM] Randi Harper: I've been dealing with people trying to trash my rep for a long time.
3008[29/12/2014, 1:04:49 AM] Peter Coffin: wow I feel sorry for you, I didn’t realize that was there that long
3009[29/12/2014, 1:04:49 AM] Randi Harper: I can tell you definitively that no one that matters ever believes this shit.
3010[29/12/2014, 1:05:08 AM] Randi Harper: people that "love a story" are shitty people that don't matter.
3011[29/12/2014, 1:05:33 AM] Peter Coffin: not being argumentative, but the people in my case affected my income greatly
3012[29/12/2014, 1:05:52 AM] Randi Harper: see, that's a problem. :P
3013[29/12/2014, 1:05:53 AM] Peter Coffin: at one point I made $4000-6000 a month on youtube, I make $100 now
3014[29/12/2014, 1:05:55 AM] Randi Harper: my income doesn't depend on asshats.
3015[29/12/2014, 1:06:06 AM] Peter Coffin: very good point
3016[29/12/2014, 1:06:10 AM] Peter Coffin: I didn’t believe mine did
3017[29/12/2014, 1:06:41 AM] Peter Coffin: but the ray william john sons and the phil defrancos apparently had the power to break my channel
3018[29/12/2014, 1:07:12 AM] Peter Coffin: rwj was someone I constantly criticized, so I think he had a motive
3019[29/12/2014, 1:07:21 AM] Randi Harper: who are those people?
3020[29/12/2014, 1:07:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Eww, RayWJ
3021[29/12/2014, 1:07:28 AM] Ian Cheong: popular youtubers.
3022[29/12/2014, 1:07:33 AM] Peter Coffin: yeah just pretend they are no one
3023[29/12/2014, 1:07:36 AM] Peter Coffin: you’ll feel better
3024[29/12/2014, 1:07:38 AM] Peter Coffin: I promise
3025[29/12/2014, 1:07:58 AM] drinternetphd: that's always an interesting bit in these things
3026[29/12/2014, 1:08:08 AM] drinternetphd: everyone you've ever pissed off, even for the right reasons, appears to shit on you
3027[29/12/2014, 1:08:37 AM] drinternetphd: like that psycho photographer
3028[29/12/2014, 1:08:49 AM] Peter Coffin: well here is the thing, randi is employed privately, my youtube channel was basically hinged on the idea public opinion of me was good
3029[29/12/2014, 1:08:52 AM] drinternetphd: and everyone will believe them verbatim without questioning motives
3030[29/12/2014, 1:08:55 AM] Ian Cheong: They crawl out of the woodwork to get their revenge.
3031[29/12/2014, 1:08:56 AM] Peter Coffin: so I think both of us are probably right
3032[29/12/2014, 1:09:04 AM] Randi Harper: yeah, I could see that being a problem.
3033[29/12/2014, 1:10:18 AM] Randi Harper: if I was privately employed, or maybe in a field that wasn't mostly a shitton of aspie dudes that are heads down in code, my feelings might be a lot different.
3034[29/12/2014, 1:11:01 AM] Randi Harper: errr, not privately employed
3035[29/12/2014, 1:11:06 AM] Ian Cheong: All the people I pissed off on the RPG Codex showed up during this GamerGate thing when I started to speak out against it. I don't even remember their names, but they make themselves known to me.
3036[29/12/2014, 1:11:07 AM] Peter Coffin: I figured :D
3037[29/12/2014, 1:11:34 AM] Ian Cheong: Amidst all the "Ian said Nazi things!" they fail to mention that they called me a gook and a chink every day.
3038[29/12/2014, 1:11:56 AM] Ian Cheong: And made a whole wikipedia-like page with details about me.
3039[29/12/2014, 1:12:23 AM] Randi Harper: why would they point that out?
3040[29/12/2014, 1:12:36 AM] Peter Coffin: because they are not particularly clever and fuck up a lot
3041[29/12/2014, 1:12:42 AM] Peter Coffin: but apparently not in this case
3042[29/12/2014, 1:13:01 AM] Ian Cheong: Of course they'd never point out how awful they were.
3043[29/12/2014, 1:13:08 AM] Randi Harper: precisely
3044[29/12/2014, 1:13:43 AM] Peter Coffin: I feel like this is all going to coalesce eventually. the discussion here about these things is really important
3045[29/12/2014, 1:14:02 AM] Peter Coffin: when I read it I feel like it’s a path
3046[29/12/2014, 1:14:07 AM] Peter Coffin: to something
3047[29/12/2014, 1:14:09 AM] Peter Coffin: not sure what yet
3048[29/12/2014, 1:15:02 AM] Peter Coffin: you all seem very intelligent to me, and a lot of the people here seems to get these similar things happening to them
3049[29/12/2014, 1:15:03 AM] Peter Coffin: seem
3050[29/12/2014, 1:15:28 AM] Randi Harper: this is depressing
3051[29/12/2014, 1:15:32 AM] Randi Harper: i'm going to go make eggnog French toast
3052[29/12/2014, 1:15:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, for sure. The way harassment, stalking, etc is handled online will be changing, and it will be largely due in part to our involvement
3053[29/12/2014, 1:15:54 AM] Peter Coffin: that sounds really good
3054[29/12/2014, 1:16:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): It's just gonna take a bit to get there
3055[29/12/2014, 1:18:01 AM] Ian Cheong: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2q3nft/metacritic_the_best_videogames_of_2014_gta_v_is/cn2q8c9?context=3
3056[29/12/2014, 1:18:25 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck these people
3057[29/12/2014, 1:18:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wwwwwwwwwow
3058[29/12/2014, 1:19:15 AM] Peter Coffin: I am literally in no way upset gta5 is meteoritic got 2014
3059[29/12/2014, 1:19:23 AM] Peter Coffin: I am SUPER upset at this comment thread
3060[29/12/2014, 1:21:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): had to tweet that out: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549253807608037377
3061[29/12/2014, 1:21:56 AM] Peter Coffin: I did as well
3062[29/12/2014, 1:22:31 AM] Peter Coffin: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549253594310901761
3063[29/12/2014, 1:24:03 AM] Ian Cheong: this isnt creepy or anything.
3064[29/12/2014, 1:24:04 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlxh2/gamergate_did_some_digging/
3065[29/12/2014, 1:24:21 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlxh2/gamergate_did_some_digging/cn7g259
3066[29/12/2014, 1:24:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "That Ghazi, SRS, etc. are all the same people and the source is Something Awful, they all got started there. They are all connected. "
3067[29/12/2014, 1:24:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh, really?
3068[29/12/2014, 1:24:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3069[29/12/2014, 1:24:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Not really.
3070[29/12/2014, 1:25:03 AM] Ian Cheong: it's a pretty stupid conspiracy theory.
3071[29/12/2014, 1:25:23 AM] Peter Coffin: that is so half-assed
3072[29/12/2014, 1:25:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I want to comment and say "hey, /r/conspiracy, looks like some of your users are lost"
3073[29/12/2014, 1:25:52 AM] Ian Cheong: that one post comparing nathan grayson to jimme saville. what the fuck.
3074[29/12/2014, 1:26:34 AM] Peter Coffin: I had a something awful account I never posted to
3075[29/12/2014, 1:26:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I commented: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlxh2/gamergate_did_some_digging/cn7h0qf
3076[29/12/2014, 1:26:48 AM] Peter Coffin: didn’t even lurk
3077[29/12/2014, 1:26:55 AM] Peter Coffin: someone gifted it to me
3078[29/12/2014, 1:27:12 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
3079[29/12/2014, 1:27:29 AM] Peter Coffin: downvote hell
3080[29/12/2014, 1:27:39 AM] Ian Cheong: these people are so obsessed with who zoe's allegedly slept with or not.
3081[29/12/2014, 1:27:51 AM] Peter Coffin: yes, and it’s about to be 2015
3082[29/12/2014, 1:31:02 AM] Ian Cheong: "So I followed GG since the LW beginnings and have continued to read more and more as GG has been able to grow and show to the world that Gamers are not dead. I am new with how to deal with Anti-GG and I had my first argument with one. I made sure to avoid calling here names and to not resort to SJW. Even thought she called GG monsters and MRA's. I tried to link some info from my mobile phone(Thanks You Guys) to help my argument but I feel like I need more links so as to disprove any kind of arguments that GG is misogynistic and is not about ethics and that GG is not responded in whole for death threats and doxxing. Maybe a time line would also be cool to be linked. Sorry if I didn't follow any rules. I'm new to posting here. Hope to talk to all you lovely people."
3083[29/12/2014, 1:31:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They "debate/argue" like they are playing a game.
3084[29/12/2014, 1:31:54 AM] Randi Harper: O.O
3085[29/12/2014, 1:32:01 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/gater_ebooks/status/549256214127718400
3086[29/12/2014, 1:32:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, did you teach your bot the "bot fight" command?
3087[29/12/2014, 1:32:46 AM] Randi Harper: I wrote support for it into the codebase, yes.
3088[29/12/2014, 1:32:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ha
3089[29/12/2014, 1:34:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, Zoe: https://twitter.com/TheQuinnspiracy/status/549256712675270656
3090[29/12/2014, 1:36:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Senpai noticed me: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarcraft/status/549257187411767296
3091[29/12/2014, 1:37:01 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
3092[29/12/2014, 1:37:05 AM] Randi Harper: goddamnit twitter let me scroll
3093[29/12/2014, 1:37:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (says that as if Chris doesn't hang out with us in here)
3094[29/12/2014, 1:37:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, I know, right? THIS BUG HAS BEEN BUGGING ME FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS
3095[29/12/2014, 1:39:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm about to write a browser userscript to fix this
3096[29/12/2014, 1:39:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's so annoying
3097[29/12/2014, 1:40:11 AM] Peter Coffin: excellent point randi
3098[29/12/2014, 1:40:17 AM] Peter Coffin: just fucking 100%
3099[29/12/2014, 1:45:44 AM] Randi Harper: hm?
3100[29/12/2014, 1:46:38 AM] Peter Coffin: what you’ve been tweeting
3101[29/12/2014, 1:46:48 AM] Randi Harper: oh
3102[29/12/2014, 1:46:50 AM] Randi Harper: people are dumb.
3103[29/12/2014, 1:46:59 AM] Dina : yes
3104[29/12/2014, 1:47:02 AM] Dina : but I have new shoes
3105[29/12/2014, 1:47:08 AM] Dina : so it's gonna be ok
3106[29/12/2014, 1:47:10 AM] Randi Harper: yessss
3107[29/12/2014, 1:47:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina... how much did you spend?
3108[29/12/2014, 1:47:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
3109[29/12/2014, 1:47:16 AM] drinternetphd: oh you ended up getting those?
3110[29/12/2014, 1:47:17 AM] Randi Harper: what kinda shoes?
3111[29/12/2014, 1:47:19 AM] Dina : all in all?
3112[29/12/2014, 1:47:32 AM] Dina : flashy snake skin studded sneakers
3113[29/12/2014, 1:47:38 AM] Dina : black
3114[29/12/2014, 1:47:41 AM] drinternetphd: woah shit I have some like that
3115[29/12/2014, 1:47:57 AM] Dina : Zoe what *fistbump*
3116[29/12/2014, 1:48:35 AM] Dina : and classy camel daim (<- french for a fluffy type of leather, fake tho) high boots with cute straps
3117[29/12/2014, 1:48:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL: https://twitter.com/randi_ebooks/status/549260070999957504
3118[29/12/2014, 1:49:15 AM] drinternetphd: dina: http://i.imgur.com/lBANXf7.jpg
3119[29/12/2014, 1:49:15 AM] Dina : oh and 2 pairs of leather sneakers with funky laces for my little brother cause he doesn'T know how to dress smdh
3120[29/12/2014, 1:49:27 AM] Dina : Holy hell <3
3121[29/12/2014, 1:49:51 AM] Dina : the Snake skin is black on mine but these are like disco balls for your feet
3122[29/12/2014, 1:50:16 AM] drinternetphd: yeah! they're doc martens
3123[29/12/2014, 1:50:29 AM] drinternetphd: they were on sale for like 20 bucks cause I guess no one wants to be a gaudy motherfucker like I do
3124[29/12/2014, 1:50:36 AM] Dina : aaaah docs are the best <3
3125[29/12/2014, 1:50:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
3126[29/12/2014, 1:50:39 AM] Dina : WHAT
3127[29/12/2014, 1:50:44 AM] Dina : 20 bucks for docs?!!
3128[29/12/2014, 1:50:50 AM] Peter Coffin: dayum
3129[29/12/2014, 1:50:54 AM] drinternetphd: yeah it was ridic
3130[29/12/2014, 1:50:59 AM] Dina : that's a steal!!
3131[29/12/2014, 1:51:00 AM] drinternetphd: they only had them left in my monsterfoot size too
3132[29/12/2014, 1:51:15 AM] drinternetphd: I am pretty much queen of internet sales
3133[29/12/2014, 1:51:20 AM] Dina : (says the girl who just got a pair of sneakers for free)
3134[29/12/2014, 1:51:24 AM] drinternetphd: haha
3135[29/12/2014, 1:51:30 AM] Dina : I believe that <3
3136[29/12/2014, 1:51:55 AM] Dina : I'm still salty Dolls Kill despite their obnoxious branding only takes Paypal
3137[29/12/2014, 1:52:10 AM] Dina : because I want literally every shoe on that website and most of the clothes
3138[29/12/2014, 1:52:23 AM] drinternetphd: hnnng I know that brand
3139[29/12/2014, 1:52:31 AM] drinternetphd: oh geez what about hades footwear
3140[29/12/2014, 1:52:35 AM] drinternetphd: they shit is CRACK
3141[29/12/2014, 1:53:02 AM] Dina : they insist on calling you "bae" and saying shit like "steez" in their newsletters though
3142[29/12/2014, 1:53:07 AM] Dina : Hades footwear?
3143[29/12/2014, 1:53:30 AM] drinternetphd: mhmm
3144[29/12/2014, 1:53:45 AM] drinternetphd: lots of metal and stuff
3145[29/12/2014, 1:53:48 AM] drinternetphd: they made my bullet hell heels
3146[29/12/2014, 1:53:49 AM] Dina : http://www.dollskill.com/ <- guuuuh
3147[29/12/2014, 1:54:03 AM] drinternetphd: also dina
3148[29/12/2014, 1:54:11 AM] drinternetphd: I have fishbowl and cupcake pink for you at my apartment
3149[29/12/2014, 1:54:15 AM] drinternetphd: fyi
3150[29/12/2014, 1:54:18 AM] Dina : oh my God
3151[29/12/2014, 1:54:29 AM] Dina : I haven't seen fishbowl in years ;-; <3
3152[29/12/2014, 1:54:47 AM] Dina : 2015 is the year of Fishbowl with cupcake streak, ilu Zoe
3153[29/12/2014, 1:54:50 AM] drinternetphd: yeah they kinda vanished on the blue front but I guess their factory had some issue that is now resolved?
3154[29/12/2014, 1:54:57 AM] drinternetphd: so it's easier to get again, finally
3155[29/12/2014, 1:55:17 AM] drinternetphd: so when I'm back in town again I'll mail it out to ya
3156[29/12/2014, 1:55:21 AM] Dina : yeah idk what the hell happened but for a really long time fishbowl and sometimes atomic pink were IMPOSSIBLE
3157[29/12/2014, 1:55:31 AM] drinternetphd: yeah!
3158[29/12/2014, 1:55:36 AM] Dina : yay! Much obliged!!
3159[29/12/2014, 1:55:45 AM] Dina : Lemme know if you want Japan things
3160[29/12/2014, 1:55:47 AM] drinternetphd: blue mayhem and some of their blue based purples vanished for a long time too
3161[29/12/2014, 1:56:04 AM] drinternetphd: became impossible to even get them irl
3162[29/12/2014, 1:56:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (are SJW's talking about hair dye?)
3163[29/12/2014, 1:56:10 AM] Dina : whaat
3164[29/12/2014, 1:56:14 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
3165[29/12/2014, 1:56:15 AM] Dina : Izzy lol
3166[29/12/2014, 1:56:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
3167[29/12/2014, 1:56:23 AM] drinternetphd: it sucked I was super worried they were permaclosing
3168[29/12/2014, 1:56:39 AM] Dina : I would have stopped dying my hair if SFX closed
3169[29/12/2014, 1:56:46 AM] Dina : I hate Manic Panic
3170[29/12/2014, 1:57:01 AM] Dina : their dye is garbage
3171[29/12/2014, 1:57:05 AM] Dina : and expensive
3172[29/12/2014, 1:58:07 AM] Dina : uuuh Zoe Hades footwear is AMAZING
3173[29/12/2014, 1:58:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GUYS. Kiwikku just sent me a private message on reddit. IDK how to feel
3174[29/12/2014, 1:58:22 AM] Dina : thank you for turning me onto that one
3175[29/12/2014, 1:58:25 AM] Dina : LOL
3176[29/12/2014, 1:58:32 AM] Dina : banned people can message?
3177[29/12/2014, 1:58:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Only banned from 1 subreddit
3178[29/12/2014, 1:58:59 AM] drinternetphd: I'm deep purple right now but I'm trying to grow my hair out again so I can go back to doing this with it http://i.imgur.com/h4OzAlx.jpg
3179[29/12/2014, 1:59:27 AM] Dina : sorry for being gross but goddamn you are hot
3180[29/12/2014, 1:59:32 AM] drinternetphd: what no aaa
3181[29/12/2014, 1:59:37 AM] drinternetphd: I am like a 5 at best
3182[29/12/2014, 1:59:42 AM] Dina : lmao no
3183[29/12/2014, 1:59:48 AM] drinternetphd: and only from certain angles
3184[29/12/2014, 2:00:07 AM] Dina : pretty sure you're hot from every angle
3185[29/12/2014, 2:00:20 AM] Dina : will need to cross reference evidence with Alex
3186[29/12/2014, 2:00:25 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL
3187[29/12/2014, 2:00:34 AM] Dina : (or maybe just stop being gross about it I'm sorry)
3188[29/12/2014, 2:00:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If we're gonna complement looks, Dina, can I marry your eyes?
3189[29/12/2014, 2:01:24 AM] Dina : haha you can ask them directly but be warned the left one is kinky as fuck
3190[29/12/2014, 2:01:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3191[29/12/2014, 2:02:31 AM] Dina : @brandssayingbae is the best thing
3192[29/12/2014, 2:02:45 AM] Dina : thank you Leigh Alexander
3193[29/12/2014, 2:02:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I know! I found out about that account today. Maybe it was from you RT'ing it
3194[29/12/2014, 2:02:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Taco Bae
3195[29/12/2014, 2:03:01 AM] Dina : LOL
3196[29/12/2014, 2:04:42 AM] Dina : ngguuuuuuh: http://hadesfootwear.com/boots/spawn.html
3197[29/12/2014, 2:05:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG has given me an aversion to skulls, :(
3198[29/12/2014, 2:05:27 AM] drinternetphd: dina you're not being creepy don't worry
3199[29/12/2014, 2:05:46 AM] drinternetphd: honestly it's a nice change of pace from 5 months of every inch of my body being under 4chan scrutiny
3200[29/12/2014, 2:05:58 AM] drinternetphd: not exactly the best thing for confidence
3201[29/12/2014, 2:06:27 AM] Dina : I'm really sorry about that and reminder that you are gorgeous and I keep hearing that from multiple men and women and agreeing
3202[29/12/2014, 2:06:40 AM] drinternetphd: what gosh
3203[29/12/2014, 2:06:50 AM] Dina : and that's before we move onto all the other things that are so great about you so yeah
3204[29/12/2014, 2:06:57 AM] drinternetphd: pfwaaaa
3205[29/12/2014, 2:07:00 AM] Dina : the Zoe Crush Club
3206[29/12/2014, 2:07:01 AM] drinternetphd: dinaaaaa
3207[29/12/2014, 2:07:04 AM] drinternetphd: I am gonna get all embarassed
3208[29/12/2014, 2:07:05 AM] Dina : I'm the president
3209[29/12/2014, 2:07:16 AM] drinternetphd: thank god alex is in the other room he always makes so much fun of me when I am embarassed
3210[29/12/2014, 2:07:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I forgot who it was, someone on Twitter put it well: "Zoe is the ideal gamer girlfriend that Gaters could never have". something like that
3211[29/12/2014, 2:07:33 AM] Peter Coffin: you folks are awesome
3212[29/12/2014, 2:07:45 AM] Dina : Izzy that is so perfect
3213[29/12/2014, 2:07:52 AM] Dina : Peter <3
3214[29/12/2014, 2:07:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): HateBoner 101
3215[29/12/2014, 2:08:01 AM] Dina : ouch
3216[29/12/2014, 2:08:11 AM] Peter Coffin: oh I love making fun of the hate jacking these fucks do
3217[29/12/2014, 2:09:54 AM] drinternetphd: hnnnng
3218[29/12/2014, 2:10:01 AM] drinternetphd: my dad left me a sweet voicemail
3219[29/12/2014, 2:10:06 AM] Dina : aww
3220[29/12/2014, 2:10:10 AM] drinternetphd: and I just remembered I've been forgetting to fix my voicemail
3221[29/12/2014, 2:10:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, HateBoner is in reference to why some guys harass women. They find them attractive, but are upset they can't "get" them.
3222[29/12/2014, 2:10:24 AM] drinternetphd: someone hacked it and changed the password and the greeting to some "five guys" horseshit
3223[29/12/2014, 2:10:31 AM] drinternetphd: I keep forgetting to reset it
3224[29/12/2014, 2:10:33 AM] Dina : UGH
3225[29/12/2014, 2:10:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
3226[29/12/2014, 2:10:50 AM] Dina : this shit makes me so angry
3227[29/12/2014, 2:10:57 AM] drinternetphd: yeah. i mean it's nothing they haven't been screaming at him on his own phone line for months
3228[29/12/2014, 2:10:59 AM] drinternetphd: but still
3229[29/12/2014, 2:13:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: GREAT NEWS, EVERYBODY!
3230[29/12/2014, 2:13:58 AM] Dina : JESUS
3231[29/12/2014, 2:14:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: Patreon Team (Patreon)
3232
3233Dec 27 11:37 PM
3234
3235Hey there Chris!
3236
3237Yes, thank you. We’re phasing in enforcement of the new Community Guidelines from now until the end of the month, when it officially goes into effect. No worries, we’re on it. This page is definitely in violation of our Community Guidelines and will face appropriate action. We appreciate you being proactive and looking out for the Patreon community.
3238
3239Best,
3240Patreon
3241[29/12/2014, 2:14:04 AM] Dina : I mean Chris
3242[29/12/2014, 2:14:10 AM] Rob: w00t!
3243[29/12/2014, 2:14:17 AM] Alex Lifschitz: *tiny woo hoo*
3244[29/12/2014, 2:14:19 AM] Dina : aw yis
3245[29/12/2014, 2:14:21 AM] Dina : also
3246[29/12/2014, 2:14:28 AM] Dina : *hugs Zoe non pervertly*
3247[29/12/2014, 2:14:42 AM] Randi Harper: what page?
3248[29/12/2014, 2:14:45 AM] Dina : and sending good vibes to Zoepapa
3249[29/12/2014, 2:14:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: hotwheels
3250[29/12/2014, 2:14:50 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Zoe is not the ideal gamer girlfriend. She has never played a 3D Sonic. She doesn't know my pain.
3251[29/12/2014, 2:14:52 AM] Dina : catwheels?
3252[29/12/2014, 2:15:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: naziwheels
3253[29/12/2014, 2:15:14 AM] Dina : She has never played a 3D Sonic = the ideal gamer gf
3254[29/12/2014, 2:15:20 AM] Dina : Alex you're clearly insane
3255[29/12/2014, 2:15:29 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Ohhhhhh man, next month is going to start off reeeeeal poor for GG.
3256[29/12/2014, 2:15:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Alex, she needs to play Sonic 06
3257[29/12/2014, 2:15:38 AM] Dina : IZZY WHY
3258[29/12/2014, 2:15:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): to be true gamer
3259[29/12/2014, 2:15:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: a single solitary tear runs down Hitler's portrait
3260[29/12/2014, 2:15:56 AM] Chris Kluwe: watching what happens to GG
3261[29/12/2014, 2:16:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: also redundancy
3262[29/12/2014, 2:16:27 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We know of at least two articles coming out in the first week that's going to give them a goddamn hissyfit, and since Zoe is angling to keep pounding away on the book pitch, I might take the helm on the Cernovich article. (Partially so we don't have to keep Chris waiting, also I spew rhetoric like hot fire.)
3263[29/12/2014, 2:16:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh no worries there
3264[29/12/2014, 2:16:52 AM] Dina : when is the able gamers stream?
3265[29/12/2014, 2:16:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: i keep watching him dig himself deeper and deeper holes
3266[29/12/2014, 2:17:00 AM] Dina : not that it's GG related
3267[29/12/2014, 2:17:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We're also going to be launching Antholojam and Crash Override.
3268[29/12/2014, 2:17:11 AM] drinternetphd: omg
3269[29/12/2014, 2:17:15 AM] drinternetphd: I just caught up
3270[29/12/2014, 2:17:16 AM] drinternetphd: yaaaay
3271[29/12/2014, 2:17:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Dina, AbleGamers dropped GG. They are doing a stream not related to GG?
3272[29/12/2014, 2:17:26 AM] drinternetphd: yes
3273[29/12/2014, 2:17:28 AM] drinternetphd: I am setting one up
3274[29/12/2014, 2:17:31 AM] drinternetphd: so
3275[29/12/2014, 2:17:32 AM] Dina : Zoe and Chris are
3276[29/12/2014, 2:17:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): NICE
3277[29/12/2014, 2:17:40 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Well, let's see what happens with Cernovich. It might be best to strike while he's down but I'll be preparing a draft.
3278[29/12/2014, 2:17:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah i'll be helping with whatever i can
3279[29/12/2014, 2:17:53 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Zoe is amazing at callout posts, I'm more the one-liner generator.
3280[29/12/2014, 2:17:59 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We'll be double-teaming it.
3281[29/12/2014, 2:18:02 AM] Dina : good combo
3282[29/12/2014, 2:18:04 AM] drinternetphd: together we are an asshole voltron
3283[29/12/2014, 2:18:10 AM] Dina : LOL
3284[29/12/2014, 2:18:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): voltranus
3285[29/12/2014, 2:18:20 AM] drinternetphd: lol
3286[29/12/2014, 2:18:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
3287[29/12/2014, 2:18:25 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Chris: I'm personally hoping it's gonna make Cernovich's close law confidants real, real uncomfortable.
3288[29/12/2014, 2:18:32 AM] drinternetphd: yeah and honestly
3289[29/12/2014, 2:18:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah
3290[29/12/2014, 2:18:45 AM] drinternetphd: another lawfriend told me that cernovich is an archetype
3291[29/12/2014, 2:18:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think a lot of them haven't really been paying attention to what his blog has become
3292[29/12/2014, 2:18:56 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Randazza is gonna have to say "I stand behind this chucklefuck who is actively tarnishing the image of first amendment lawyers."
3293[29/12/2014, 2:19:00 AM] drinternetphd: so I am trying to see if I can kick enough shit up to use him as a case study in asshole first amendment lawyers
3294[29/12/2014, 2:19:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
3295[29/12/2014, 2:19:14 AM] drinternetphd: the bar won't do shit about him because he doesn't have client relationships with the people he's harassing
3296[29/12/2014, 2:19:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: it'll be interesting to see Randazza's reaction
3297[29/12/2014, 2:19:17 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I think his relationship to R is the only thing he values nowadays.
3298[29/12/2014, 2:19:24 AM] drinternetphd: but if we make him inconvient to other lawyers he's fucked
3299[29/12/2014, 2:19:42 AM] drinternetphd: and hopefully will have less ability to ruin people's shit
3300[29/12/2014, 2:19:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: because it's clear randazza agrees with him on quite a bit of this stuff
3301[29/12/2014, 2:20:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: but he doesn't seem stupid enough to say so in public
3302[29/12/2014, 2:20:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It's of course going to be couched in the context of something larger, namely the bottom-of-the-barrel "professionals" trying to lend their credibility in the vacuum that is Gamergate and actively fucking their cause.
3303[29/12/2014, 2:20:18 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Based ________.
3304[29/12/2014, 2:20:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: right
3305[29/12/2014, 2:21:05 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Might also draw some of Cerno's aggro towards me, which would be fine. The only things his PIs have turned up about me have been demonstrably false.
3306[29/12/2014, 2:21:41 AM] Dina : you are not a lvl 89 Jewverlord
3307[29/12/2014, 2:21:46 AM] Dina : ?
3308[29/12/2014, 2:21:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol
3309[29/12/2014, 2:22:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3310[29/12/2014, 2:22:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Level 89 is the new cap. I got my first mount at the bar mitzvah.
3311[29/12/2014, 2:22:44 AM] Peter Coffin: fuck they capped it?
3312[29/12/2014, 2:22:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: He has spent more on people digging through our trash than I've ever had in my bank account at one time.
3313[29/12/2014, 2:23:10 AM] Randi Harper: hmm
3314[29/12/2014, 2:23:11 AM] Randi Harper: I wonder.
3315[29/12/2014, 2:23:13 AM] Randi Harper: Randi Harper checks database
3316[29/12/2014, 2:23:18 AM] Alex Lifschitz: oh boy
3317[29/12/2014, 2:23:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): .... why the fuck is this person tagging Chobitcoin in their reply to me.... https://twitter.com/PandaStarGamez/status/549268789196386305
3318[29/12/2014, 2:23:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: because they're ethicsing as hard as they can
3319[29/12/2014, 2:23:55 AM] Randi Harper: oh shit
3320[29/12/2014, 2:23:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, but of course. Chobitcoin retweeted me
3321[29/12/2014, 2:24:05 AM] Randi Harper: playdangerously's #1 mentioned user: chriswarcraft
3322[29/12/2014, 2:24:07 AM] Dina : Chobitcoin T_T
3323[29/12/2014, 2:24:17 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
3324[29/12/2014, 2:24:18 AM] Dina : lol Randi
3325[29/12/2014, 2:24:21 AM] Dina : Imagine that
3326[29/12/2014, 2:24:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: hahaha
3327[29/12/2014, 2:24:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, when are you gonna drop your data bomb?
3328[29/12/2014, 2:24:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: shocking
3329[29/12/2014, 2:24:38 AM] Randi Harper: jan 4th
3330[29/12/2014, 2:24:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ok
3331[29/12/2014, 2:24:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :)
3332[29/12/2014, 2:24:45 AM] drinternetphd: cool
3333[29/12/2014, 2:24:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: but he's not stalkerish
3334[29/12/2014, 2:24:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: at all
3335[29/12/2014, 2:25:00 AM] Dina : speaking of Hateboners
3336[29/12/2014, 2:25:12 AM] Dina : Cerno 8==D Kluwe
3337[29/12/2014, 2:25:19 AM] Peter Coffin: yaaaaaaass
3338[29/12/2014, 2:25:22 AM] Randi Harper: after that, his next top 4 are sash, chuckcjohnson, mirahwood, jokeocracy
3339[29/12/2014, 2:25:28 AM] Randi Harper: sashh
3340[29/12/2014, 2:25:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): chuckcjohnson. lol
3341[29/12/2014, 2:25:38 AM] drinternetphd: lol
3342[29/12/2014, 2:25:40 AM] Dina : pretty sure one is his gf
3343[29/12/2014, 2:25:46 AM] Dina : probably chuckcjohnson
3344[29/12/2014, 2:25:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: 8==D  ETHICS 
3345[29/12/2014, 2:25:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: goddamit
3346[29/12/2014, 2:25:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: stupid strikethrough code
3347[29/12/2014, 2:25:54 AM] Randi Harper: he loves chris more than his girlfriend.
3348[29/12/2014, 2:25:55 AM] Dina : LOL
3349[29/12/2014, 2:26:07 AM] Peter Coffin: whats not to love lol
3350[29/12/2014, 2:26:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SPOOGE LINES SKYPECHAT
3351[29/12/2014, 2:26:13 AM] Alex Lifschitz: WHO IS A WOMAN OF COLOR, IF I HAVEN'T REMINDED YOU. SEE? SEE HOW COLORFUL SHE IS
3352[29/12/2014, 2:26:30 AM] Peter Coffin: probably shits rainbows
3353[29/12/2014, 2:26:47 AM] Peter Coffin: I mean I HAVEN’T SEEN IT PERSONALLY
3354[29/12/2014, 2:26:51 AM] drinternetphd: chris, skype just can't handle the superserum
3355[29/12/2014, 2:26:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: apparently
3356[29/12/2014, 2:27:04 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Anyways, January is gonna be the fucking reckoning. We'll see about stacking it on even further.
3357[29/12/2014, 2:27:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I remember when I found out Mike C. actually makes fruit/vegetable juice for a living.
3358[29/12/2014, 2:27:16 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hostilities will commence after the holidays. *puts on Dukakis helmet*
3359[29/12/2014, 2:27:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I thought it was only for the steroids reference
3360[29/12/2014, 2:27:25 AM] drinternetphd: du
3361[29/12/2014, 2:27:27 AM] drinternetphd: dukak
3362[29/12/2014, 2:27:29 AM] drinternetphd: du kak kis
3363[29/12/2014, 2:27:35 AM] drinternetphd: metal guitar
3364[29/12/2014, 2:27:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: i still haven't been able to find out his "seven figure payout"
3365[29/12/2014, 2:27:44 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/jokeocracy/status/526027179357130753
3366[29/12/2014, 2:27:46 AM] Randi Harper: what
3367[29/12/2014, 2:27:59 AM] drinternetphd: hmmm
3368[29/12/2014, 2:28:00 AM] drinternetphd: hmmmmmmm
3369[29/12/2014, 2:28:03 AM] drinternetphd: hmmmmmmmmm
3370[29/12/2014, 2:28:04 AM] drinternetphd: so
3371[29/12/2014, 2:28:14 AM] drinternetphd: I am connected to randall of xkcd
3372[29/12/2014, 2:28:23 AM] drinternetphd: I wonder if he'd feel like shitting on these nerdlords
3373[29/12/2014, 2:28:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I saw him the other month when he came to our Amazon office
3374[29/12/2014, 2:28:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He's cool
3375[29/12/2014, 2:28:44 AM] drinternetphd: yeah
3376[29/12/2014, 2:28:55 AM] drinternetphd: I am apparently a carbon copy of his wife. we even dated the same person and stuff
3377[29/12/2014, 2:28:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Izzy, you at Amazon?
3378[29/12/2014, 2:29:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Alex, yes.
3379[29/12/2014, 2:29:08 AM] Alex Lifschitz: God damn. We're crashing in Belltown.
3380[29/12/2014, 2:29:15 AM] Randi Harper: belltown <3
3381[29/12/2014, 2:29:17 AM] Randi Harper: I used to live there.
3382[29/12/2014, 2:29:30 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We can grab coffee, like, whenever.
3383[29/12/2014, 2:29:40 AM] Randi Harper: zoe: pass it onto randall plz
3384[29/12/2014, 2:29:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Alex, yeah. Mentioned it to Zoe earlier today
3385[29/12/2014, 2:30:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen is also in the area
3386[29/12/2014, 2:30:15 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok, well i'm gonna get back to writing
3387[29/12/2014, 2:30:19 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We could have a caffeine collusion party one day
3388[29/12/2014, 2:30:21 AM] drinternetphd: well
3389[29/12/2014, 2:30:29 AM] Dina : bbl less than three
3390[29/12/2014, 2:30:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: have to do something useful before i 'debate' juicebrolater
3391[29/12/2014, 2:30:35 AM] drinternetphd: oh wait is that today
3392[29/12/2014, 2:30:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: yarp
3393[29/12/2014, 2:30:45 AM] Peter Coffin: lol how is this going down
3394[29/12/2014, 2:30:46 AM] drinternetphd: when and how can I view the tears
3395[29/12/2014, 2:30:49 AM] Randi Harper: wait what
3396[29/12/2014, 2:30:51 AM] Randi Harper: how are you debating him
3397[29/12/2014, 2:30:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'll throw it on my twitch stream
3398[29/12/2014, 2:30:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: over skype
3399[29/12/2014, 2:30:57 AM] Peter Coffin: noice
3400[29/12/2014, 2:31:02 AM] drinternetphd: oh lord
3401[29/12/2014, 2:31:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: it'll probably end up with us yelling at each other
3402[29/12/2014, 2:31:09 AM] drinternetphd: you're recording it too I take it
3403[29/12/2014, 2:31:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh definitely
3404[29/12/2014, 2:31:17 AM] Peter Coffin: excellent
3405[29/12/2014, 2:31:23 AM] Randi Harper: what time
3406[29/12/2014, 2:31:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): this is good for bitcoin
3407[29/12/2014, 2:31:27 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I don't think it has to be said we shouldn't let on that we've been combing his blog.
3408[29/12/2014, 2:31:27 AM] drinternetphd: lol
3409[29/12/2014, 2:31:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: i haven't advertised it anywhere though, but i'll put a post up in ghazi in a bit
3410[29/12/2014, 2:31:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: 4pm pacific
3411[29/12/2014, 2:31:39 AM] Randi Harper: this is one of the few things i'll pay attention to.
3412[29/12/2014, 2:31:43 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Should be fun though.
3413[29/12/2014, 2:31:48 AM] drinternetphd: oh my.
3414[29/12/2014, 2:31:50 AM] Randi Harper: ok. I will stop doing arenas for this.
3415[29/12/2014, 2:31:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3416[29/12/2014, 2:31:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: for sure, i don't plan on revealing anything from the blog
3417[29/12/2014, 2:32:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: twitch stream is twitch.tv/loate
3418[29/12/2014, 2:32:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: if he doesn't show i'll play hearthstone or something
3419[29/12/2014, 2:32:37 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Cool. If it's recorded we can see if there's anything we can add to the litigation pile in there.
3420[29/12/2014, 2:32:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I can stream this on my TV with the Twitch Xbox 360 app!
3421[29/12/2014, 2:32:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah, my hope is to get him to say something stupid on accident
3422[29/12/2014, 2:32:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I just realized.
3423[29/12/2014, 2:32:56 AM] drinternetphd: shouldnt be hard
3424[29/12/2014, 2:32:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: true
3425[29/12/2014, 2:33:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3426[29/12/2014, 2:33:07 AM] Peter Coffin: you should be able to get him to say something stupid on purpose
3427[29/12/2014, 2:33:11 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha
3428[29/12/2014, 2:33:13 AM] Peter Coffin: forget accidents
3429[29/12/2014, 2:33:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Just balance a weenie on his nose and he'll bark.
3430[29/12/2014, 2:33:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm definitely going to hammer him on hotwheels
3431[29/12/2014, 2:33:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: because i want an answer to that
3432[29/12/2014, 2:33:29 AM] Peter Coffin: good
3433[29/12/2014, 2:33:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh, Peter! How did your radio thing go last night?
3434[29/12/2014, 2:33:36 AM] Peter Coffin: it actually went good
3435[29/12/2014, 2:33:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: nice!
3436[29/12/2014, 2:33:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I wasn't able to catch it. That's good
3437[29/12/2014, 2:33:45 AM] Peter Coffin: they did get some gg calls, AFTER I WAS GONE
3438[29/12/2014, 2:33:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Haha
3439[29/12/2014, 2:33:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
3440[29/12/2014, 2:33:57 AM] Peter Coffin: they literally took notes on what I said and rebuked it
3441[29/12/2014, 2:34:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: "that's so Gator!" <camera wink>
3442[29/12/2014, 2:34:03 AM] Peter Coffin: chicken shit as hell
3443[29/12/2014, 2:34:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
3444[29/12/2014, 2:34:08 AM] Peter Coffin: isn’t it though
3445[29/12/2014, 2:34:22 AM] Peter Coffin: 4 hour show, they had me on the first two
3446[29/12/2014, 2:34:33 AM] Peter Coffin: gator called while I was driving home
3447[29/12/2014, 2:34:42 AM] Peter Coffin: just chicken shit
3448[29/12/2014, 2:34:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: how did they link their youtube video over radio?
3449[29/12/2014, 2:34:56 AM] Peter Coffin: HAHA
3450[29/12/2014, 2:35:03 AM] Randi Harper: okay, is it just me, or is this tweet incredibly condescending and sexist: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/549060745757863937
3451[29/12/2014, 2:35:10 AM] Peter Coffin: he bombarded them with info about ethics and how it’s not about zoe quinn
3452[29/12/2014, 2:35:16 AM] Peter Coffin: which
3453[29/12/2014, 2:35:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh he's got a bunch like that randi
3454[29/12/2014, 2:35:21 AM] Peter Coffin: zoe, I think you know different
3455[29/12/2014, 2:35:23 AM] Charloppe: morning evil sjws :3
3456[29/12/2014, 2:35:28 AM] Peter Coffin: morning
3457[29/12/2014, 2:35:31 AM] Peter Coffin: how are you
3458[29/12/2014, 2:35:36 AM] Randi Harper: like it's some dude's responsibility to show women how to take care of themselves
3459[29/12/2014, 2:35:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Morning, Charlotte
3460[29/12/2014, 2:35:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: he's the alpha protector
3461[29/12/2014, 2:35:45 AM] Charloppe: alright, you?
3462[29/12/2014, 2:35:51 AM] Randi Harper: like excuse me, it was actually a woman who taught me how to shoot
3463[29/12/2014, 2:35:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: HE MUST TEND HIS FLOCK
3464[29/12/2014, 2:35:57 AM] Peter Coffin: very good
3465[29/12/2014, 2:36:27 AM] Charloppe: i see juicebro is being talked about agian
3466[29/12/2014, 2:36:37 AM] Peter Coffin: chris is debating him on twitch later
3467[29/12/2014, 2:36:42 AM] Peter Coffin: it’s going to be amazing
3468[29/12/2014, 2:36:46 AM] Charloppe: wait really?
3469[29/12/2014, 2:36:48 AM] Peter Coffin: yes
3470[29/12/2014, 2:36:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: good times!
3471[29/12/2014, 2:36:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
3472[29/12/2014, 2:36:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: 4pm pacific
3473[29/12/2014, 2:36:55 AM] Charloppe: omg will watch
3474[29/12/2014, 2:37:11 AM] Peter Coffin: I may be at my brothers at that point
3475[29/12/2014, 2:37:17 AM] Peter Coffin: so I will sadly not get to watch live
3476[29/12/2014, 2:37:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: he called me out on twitter a couple days ago and i was like "I love debate! I'll do that! See what happens when you don't challenge people to fistfights?"
3477[29/12/2014, 2:37:45 AM] Charloppe: trys to imagine juicebro debating
3478[29/12/2014, 2:38:12 AM] Charloppe: im sure this will give me all the lols
3479[29/12/2014, 2:38:34 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Chris you should totally be taking nonchalant swigs from a hydration bottle labeled Super Serum
3480[29/12/2014, 2:38:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'd imagine it starts normally, and then veins start appearing, and then he hulks out and smashes the camera
3481[29/12/2014, 2:38:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh my god yes
3482[29/12/2014, 2:38:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: let me make that
3483[29/12/2014, 2:38:46 AM] Charloppe: i can totally see that
3484[29/12/2014, 2:38:46 AM] Tesseract: oh god that's perfect
3485[29/12/2014, 2:38:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hahaha
3486[29/12/2014, 2:38:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): plz
3487[29/12/2014, 2:38:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris, plz
3488[29/12/2014, 2:38:59 AM] Charloppe: probably scream something about alpha males
3489[29/12/2014, 2:39:10 AM] drinternetphd: omg
3490[29/12/2014, 2:39:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'll throw a sticker on top of a nalgene bottle
3491[29/12/2014, 2:39:28 AM] Alex Lifschitz: "What can I say, I'm addicted."
3492[29/12/2014, 2:39:29 AM] drinternetphd: looooool
3493[29/12/2014, 2:39:31 AM] Rob: "Bro do you even KNOW the secrets of spoogeomancy like I do?"
3494[29/12/2014, 2:39:36 AM] drinternetphd: god
3495[29/12/2014, 2:39:38 AM] drinternetphd: if you had the time
3496[29/12/2014, 2:39:40 AM] Randi Harper: oh my god
3497[29/12/2014, 2:39:41 AM] drinternetphd: I'd say make two labels
3498[29/12/2014, 2:39:42 AM] Chris Kluwe: I AM A LEVEL 99 JIZZARD
3499[29/12/2014, 2:39:44 AM] Charloppe: my sides
3500[29/12/2014, 2:39:49 AM] drinternetphd: and have the first one fall off during
3501[29/12/2014, 2:39:50 AM] drinternetphd: slowly
3502[29/12/2014, 2:39:53 AM] drinternetphd: to reveal the super serum
3503[29/12/2014, 2:39:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: looooool
3504[29/12/2014, 2:40:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yes
3505[29/12/2014, 2:40:05 AM] drinternetphd: maybe make the first one some jab at his stupid juice biz
3506[29/12/2014, 2:40:07 AM] Charloppe: so many super jizz jokes
3507[29/12/2014, 2:40:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): First one: "Gater tears"
3508[29/12/2014, 2:40:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 2nd: "Super Serum"
3509[29/12/2014, 2:40:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: i like gator tears
3510[29/12/2014, 2:40:49 AM] Randi Harper: I don't think he's going to show up
3511[29/12/2014, 2:40:52 AM] Charloppe: today at 4 caption america, the truth behind the serum
3512[29/12/2014, 2:40:55 AM] Randi Harper: when has mike ever done anything without promoting the hell out of it first
3513[29/12/2014, 2:40:56 AM] Tesseract: too busy raw dogging
3514[29/12/2014, 2:40:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: i doubt he will, to be honest
3515[29/12/2014, 2:41:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: exactly randi
3516[29/12/2014, 2:41:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He showed up to his stream with Gordie Tait, though
3517[29/12/2014, 2:41:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: i bet he figured i was gonna plaster it all over twitter and the web
3518[29/12/2014, 2:41:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: and drive up juice sales
3519[29/12/2014, 2:41:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
3520[29/12/2014, 2:41:40 AM] Peter Coffin: lol
3521[29/12/2014, 2:42:06 AM] Charloppe: in all seriousness I'm happy your taking a stand against him. Hes such a fucking bully
3522[29/12/2014, 2:42:13 AM] Peter Coffin: same
3523[29/12/2014, 2:42:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: no problem
3524[29/12/2014, 2:42:20 AM] Tesseract: yeah
3525[29/12/2014, 2:42:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: i don't like bullies
3526[29/12/2014, 2:42:27 AM] Alex Lifschitz: OMG you should grill him on gamer trivia
3527[29/12/2014, 2:42:36 AM] Chris Kluwe: especially those who try to disguise themselves as "fighting bullying"
3528[29/12/2014, 2:42:38 AM] Chris Kluwe: hehehehe
3529[29/12/2014, 2:42:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: "So Mike, who was your favorite Final Fantasy 6 character?"
3530[29/12/2014, 2:42:53 AM] Rob: He's not a bully, he's just tyring to prevent SJWs from sapping and impurifying all of our precious bodily fluids.
3531[29/12/2014, 2:42:56 AM] Charloppe: locke
3532[29/12/2014, 2:43:01 AM] Charloppe: cause i play games
3533[29/12/2014, 2:43:06 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Zelda!
3534[29/12/2014, 2:43:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mario!
3535[29/12/2014, 2:43:10 AM] drinternetphd: haaaa oh god that made my eye twitch for a second charlotte
3536[29/12/2014, 2:43:12 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Probably Gau, he has a gorilla mindset
3537[29/12/2014, 2:43:12 AM] Tesseract: metroid
3538[29/12/2014, 2:43:17 AM] Peter Coffin: “Let me think” *googles*
3539[29/12/2014, 2:43:18 AM] Chris Kluwe: rofl
3540[29/12/2014, 2:43:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: alex that was perfect
3541[29/12/2014, 2:43:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Metroid, he doesn't afraid of nothing
3542[29/12/2014, 2:43:27 AM] Charloppe: wouldn't it be cool if zelda was a girl?
3543[29/12/2014, 2:43:32 AM] drinternetphd: my favorite character is link zelda
3544[29/12/2014, 2:43:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Kirby is my favorite Pokemon
3545[29/12/2014, 2:43:42 AM] Peter Coffin: mine is zink
3546[29/12/2014, 2:43:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: in all honesty, that's one of the things i'm going to ask
3547[29/12/2014, 2:44:02 AM] Charloppe: im going to digivolve my pikachu into a dinosaur with guns
3548[29/12/2014, 2:44:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Why do you, as someone completely uninterested in video games, have such a vested interest in Gamergate?"
3549[29/12/2014, 2:44:18 AM] drinternetphd: if he doesn't mention eron he's a liar
3550[29/12/2014, 2:44:20 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Isn't that remarkably similar to........ white knighting?"
3551[29/12/2014, 2:44:25 AM] Peter Coffin: “it’s about the rights of men”
3552[29/12/2014, 2:44:27 AM] Charloppe: you could say hes....co-oping lol
3553[29/12/2014, 2:44:28 AM] drinternetphd: do you need like
3554[29/12/2014, 2:44:30 AM] Alex Lifschitz: perfect
3555[29/12/2014, 2:44:31 AM] drinternetphd: data on that
3556[29/12/2014, 2:44:33 AM] Peter Coffin: “men’s rights"
3557[29/12/2014, 2:44:37 AM] drinternetphd: like how my ex looped him in or anything
3558[29/12/2014, 2:44:38 AM] Peter Coffin: “uhhhh games"
3559[29/12/2014, 2:45:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm not totally sure how eron got him involved, i know he was trying to post to any message board that would accept a captcha
3560[29/12/2014, 2:45:07 AM] Tesseract: I should probably be digging through juicebro's tweets for shit right about now
3561[29/12/2014, 2:45:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): To the ethicsmobile!
3562[29/12/2014, 2:45:26 AM] Charloppe: stalker going to stalk :/
3563[29/12/2014, 2:45:28 AM] Alex Lifschitz: DOX DOX DOX
3564[29/12/2014, 2:45:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: i figured it filtered through the manosphere like some unholy stain
3565[29/12/2014, 2:45:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: WHAT DO YOU DOOOO TO ESS JAWY DOUBLE-YEWWWWWS
3566[29/12/2014, 2:45:36 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe: he reached out personally
3567[29/12/2014, 2:45:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh wow
3568[29/12/2014, 2:45:43 AM] drinternetphd: asked for legal advice with his shitbag friend ben hitov
3569[29/12/2014, 2:45:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: WHITE KNIGHT MIKE, SAVE ME
3570[29/12/2014, 2:45:48 AM] drinternetphd: they did that with popehat too
3571[29/12/2014, 2:45:53 AM] Charloppe: lolololol
3572[29/12/2014, 2:45:56 AM] drinternetphd: and popehat told him publicly to go fuck himself
3573[29/12/2014, 2:46:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's even better
3574[29/12/2014, 2:46:14 AM] drinternetphd: I wish I'd saved the tweets but I didn't know who cerno was or what was going to come of it
3575[29/12/2014, 2:46:27 AM] drinternetphd: but I do have the tweets from cerno about eron
3576[29/12/2014, 2:46:35 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=from%3Aplaydangerously%20to%3Apopehat&src=typd
3577[29/12/2014, 2:46:37 AM] drinternetphd: and how he was a "nice guy" but mike isn't
3578[29/12/2014, 2:46:46 AM] drinternetphd: and then threatening to dox sjws with subpoenas
3579[29/12/2014, 2:46:48 AM] drinternetphd: I have those tweets.
3580[29/12/2014, 2:46:57 AM] Peter Coffin: juicebronovich
3581[29/12/2014, 2:47:09 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Hahaha, I remember when he said that and Popehat shut him down like a disobedient dog
3582[29/12/2014, 2:47:21 AM] Tesseract: a disobedient raw dog
3583[29/12/2014, 2:47:22 AM] Alex Lifschitz: "You gonna dox me, Mike?"
3584"oh shit oh shit oh shit"
3585[29/12/2014, 2:47:25 AM] drinternetphd: lol
3586[29/12/2014, 2:47:27 AM] drinternetphd: that was hilarious
3587[29/12/2014, 2:47:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
3588[29/12/2014, 2:47:45 AM] Chris Kluwe: BACKPEDAL
3589[29/12/2014, 2:47:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: FASTER
3590[29/12/2014, 2:48:12 AM] Alex Lifschitz: https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/516060796632064000
3591[29/12/2014, 2:48:27 AM] drinternetphd: [cackles]
3592[29/12/2014, 2:48:43 AM] Charloppe: sigh just say fight me in the street already
3593[29/12/2014, 2:49:42 AM] Randi Harper: mike also doesn't seem to understand that not all martyrs die.
3594[29/12/2014, 2:49:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: trying to go back through his feed to august/sept but HE NEVER FUCKING SHUTS UP
3595[29/12/2014, 2:49:50 AM] Randi Harper: ugh plz get a better handle on English kthx
3596[29/12/2014, 2:50:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: i swear he went from 3k tweets to 18k in the span of 3 months
3597[29/12/2014, 2:50:20 AM] Tesseract: whenever I do these searches I find some horrible shit from before gg by sheer coincidence
3598[29/12/2014, 2:50:21 AM] Tesseract: like this https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/298880036696633344
3599[29/12/2014, 2:50:23 AM] Charloppe: insert clip of english mothafucka do you speak it!?
3600[29/12/2014, 2:50:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh that's classy
3601[29/12/2014, 2:51:08 AM] Peter Coffin: ugh
3602[29/12/2014, 2:51:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: "Forget being a decent human beings, how many vaginas have you slain?!"
3603[29/12/2014, 2:51:13 AM] Peter Coffin: juicebro, come on
3604[29/12/2014, 2:51:45 AM] drinternetphd: [points to numberous vaginas with x's over them painted on the side of a overcompensating sports car]
3605[29/12/2014, 2:52:19 AM] Charloppe: that is just perfect zoe
3606[29/12/2014, 2:52:22 AM] Charloppe: no words
3607[29/12/2014, 2:52:25 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously  ·  Dec 6
3608
3609I was almost peered out of officer candidate school. The tacs used me to lecture. "You might not like Cernovich but you will remember him."
3610[29/12/2014, 2:52:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like a bad bout of crabs.
3611[29/12/2014, 2:53:10 AM] Charloppe: but but alpha males cant get stds!?
3612[29/12/2014, 2:53:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: not if your serum is pure
3613[29/12/2014, 2:53:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Uh... https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549276824627208194
3614[29/12/2014, 2:53:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: the alpha body has ways of shutting that down
3615[29/12/2014, 2:53:52 AM] Charloppe: just flush that shit out
3616[29/12/2014, 2:53:59 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Mike, we really should meet in person. I feel like Skype destroys pair bonding.
3617[29/12/2014, 2:54:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: lol izzy, i saw that one
3618[29/12/2014, 2:54:15 AM] Chris Kluwe: they're really not even bothering to hide it anymore
3619[29/12/2014, 2:54:53 AM] Peter Coffin: not if they use whatever he wanks with after he “has sex with” women
3620[29/12/2014, 2:55:00 AM] Tesseract: he linked that "rape van" article like 3 times for some unknowable reason
3621[29/12/2014, 2:55:09 AM] Peter Coffin: because it says rape
3622[29/12/2014, 2:55:12 AM] Peter Coffin: and it’s a pua
3623[29/12/2014, 2:55:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): gotta defend my homies
3624[29/12/2014, 2:55:23 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 17 Oct 2013
3625
3626Obese people cannot wipe their own butts. Literally. That's why products exist to help them wipe. How is that healthy? #FatShamingWeek
3627[29/12/2014, 2:55:30 AM] Charloppe: dont fuck with kirby
3628[29/12/2014, 2:55:37 AM] Peter Coffin: “guy rapes with van, need to make sure he is regarded well”
3629[29/12/2014, 2:55:58 AM] Charloppe: ummm that logic
3630[29/12/2014, 2:56:00 AM] Charloppe: wtf mike
3631[29/12/2014, 2:56:15 AM] Tesseract: ooh apparently he's dyslexic
3632[29/12/2014, 2:56:26 AM] Tesseract: that explains his crippling inability to spell
3633[29/12/2014, 2:56:41 AM] Tesseract: "mastubate"
3634[29/12/2014, 2:56:44 AM] Peter Coffin: I am too, I do get that from his tweets sometimes.
3635[29/12/2014, 2:57:06 AM] Peter Coffin: although you’ll see I tend to do this thing called proofreading
3636[29/12/2014, 2:57:26 AM] Tesseract: "If you're an employee of Polytron, reach out to me. I will represent you in your case against Phil Fish. Pro bono. @TheQuinnspiracy" ????????????????????????????????
3637[29/12/2014, 2:57:27 AM] Peter Coffin: not here, obvoiusly
3638[29/12/2014, 2:57:39 AM] Tesseract: that's from august 22nd
3639[29/12/2014, 2:57:41 AM] Peter Coffin: here on Skype I’m like “alright dyslexia your turn”
3640[29/12/2014, 2:57:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: heh
3641[29/12/2014, 2:58:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: anyone have a link to an archive of his tweets from august? my google-fu is failing me right now
3642[29/12/2014, 2:58:16 AM] Peter Coffin: that is…. weird
3643[29/12/2014, 2:58:16 AM] Charloppe: keep forgetting hes a lawyer
3644[29/12/2014, 2:58:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: except
3645[29/12/2014, 2:58:28 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Which ones? Just all of 'em?
3646[29/12/2014, 2:58:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: i've never seen him represent a case
3647[29/12/2014, 2:58:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: yeah all are fine alex
3648[29/12/2014, 2:58:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Twitter search will do that. Lemme get the query for you.
3649[29/12/2014, 2:58:59 AM] Tesseract: ah here we go, from the same day "If Zoe Quinn conspired with Phil Fish to fake a hack, she is a co-conspirator. We will sue her, too. http://imgur.com/VeLuwV5"
3650[29/12/2014, 2:59:03 AM] Charloppe: the only reason why i know he is one is because he threatens ppl
3651[29/12/2014, 2:59:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aplaydangerously%20since%3A2014-08-01%20until%3A2014-08-31&src=typd
3652[29/12/2014, 2:59:21 AM] Charloppe: like that
3653[29/12/2014, 2:59:23 AM] drinternetphd: oh lovely.
3654[29/12/2014, 2:59:35 AM] Peter Coffin: phil fish very clearly was hacked. his tone was extremely panicked and aggressive
3655[29/12/2014, 2:59:41 AM] Peter Coffin: THAT is enough to tell
3656[29/12/2014, 2:59:49 AM] drinternetphd: he was hacked.
3657[29/12/2014, 2:59:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: thanks
3658[29/12/2014, 2:59:58 AM] drinternetphd: and I have the ip address of the guy who did it and it matches who hacked my tumblr.
3659[29/12/2014, 3:00:03 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Be sure to ask him how that Weird Twitter Gawker Shill investigation into the five figures is going. I'm awaiting my subpoena.
3660[29/12/2014, 3:00:10 AM] drinternetphd: good fucking luck getting law enforcement to give a fuck tho
3661[29/12/2014, 3:00:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): as someone who works in web hosting... I facepalm everytime GGers try to explain how websites work
3662[29/12/2014, 3:00:24 AM] Peter Coffin: “IP address? Like is that where you pee?"
3663[29/12/2014, 3:00:36 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also worth noting, you can use tweetsave to see all his deleted tweets.
3664[29/12/2014, 3:00:37 AM] Charloppe: you and sarah could talk for days about that izzy
3665[29/12/2014, 3:00:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
3666[29/12/2014, 3:00:58 AM] Peter Coffin: now you see, THAT is interesting
3667[29/12/2014, 3:01:02 AM] Peter Coffin: alex
3668[29/12/2014, 3:01:05 AM] Alex Lifschitz: tweetsave.com/PlayDangerously Filter for deleted.
3669[29/12/2014, 3:01:14 AM] Peter Coffin: because he did play the delete game
3670[29/12/2014, 3:01:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): like when AbleGamers went down because of database failure, they were like "LOOK THE WEBSITE STILL PULLS UP BUT IT'S BLANK. FAKE DOWNTIME!"
3671[29/12/2014, 3:01:54 AM] Charloppe: i learned all my hacking from anime
3672[29/12/2014, 3:01:56 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Oct 15
3673
3674It's misogyny to claim Eron is physically capable of abusing an almost 200 pound Zoe Quinn. #GamerGate https://twitter.com/eron_gj/status/522455649910001664 …
3675
3676Eron Gjoni @eron_gj Oct 15
3677
3678@PlayDangerously I feel both supported and emasculated.
3679[29/12/2014, 3:01:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "but the data isn't loading from the database... that's why it's blank". ... "DON'T MATTER. I SEES HTMLS"
3680[29/12/2014, 3:02:03 AM] Charloppe: Charloppe types radomally on keyboard
3681[29/12/2014, 3:02:39 AM] Charloppe: save that cat
3682[29/12/2014, 3:02:51 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Charlotte: http://hackertyper.net/
3683[29/12/2014, 3:03:14 AM] Charloppe: im best hacker
3684[29/12/2014, 3:03:22 AM] Charloppe: got through the backdoor
3685[29/12/2014, 3:03:30 AM] Charloppe: now to download all the files
3686[29/12/2014, 3:03:47 AM] Charloppe: oh no the cyber aliens are after me
3687[29/12/2014, 3:03:52 AM] drinternetphd: ugh
3688[29/12/2014, 3:04:40 AM] Charloppe: you ok zoe?
3689[29/12/2014, 3:04:50 AM] Tesseract: "Poor Anita Sarkeesian. She took the spotlight from Zoe Quinn by faking death threat. How will she one-up the celeb nudes?"
3690[29/12/2014, 3:04:56 AM] Tesseract: that was just like, four of his tweets in a row
3691[29/12/2014, 3:05:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
3692[29/12/2014, 3:05:35 AM] drinternetphd: yeah my head is just doing that thing that it does when I see too much toxic shit from my abuser
3693[29/12/2014, 3:05:42 AM] drinternetphd: like I get really aggro headaches
3694[29/12/2014, 3:05:53 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :( (hug)
3695[29/12/2014, 3:05:59 AM] Charloppe: :( can't imagine what thats like
3696[29/12/2014, 3:06:04 AM] Peter Coffin: i’m sorry zoe
3697[29/12/2014, 3:06:10 AM] drinternetphd: it's ok
3698[29/12/2014, 3:06:57 AM] Alex Lifschitz: It's okay we're gonna play Alan Wake and have sushi later.
3699[29/12/2014, 3:07:06 AM] drinternetphd: AND DDR
3700[29/12/2014, 3:07:10 AM] drinternetphd: I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT DDR
3701[29/12/2014, 3:07:33 AM] Peter Coffin: I’m headed out, probably won’t be on much today, much love to you folks though. have a wonderful day
3702[29/12/2014, 3:07:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): See you later, Peter. Take care
3703[29/12/2014, 3:07:48 AM] Rob: Really tempted to get divinity: original sin
3704[29/12/2014, 3:07:49 AM] Charloppe: later peter have fun
3705[29/12/2014, 3:08:18 AM] Peter Coffin: will do! see yous
3706[29/12/2014, 3:08:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Jul 27
3707
3708We will all fall short of those standards. Men of honor apologize. We move on. A man who won't apologize has no standards.
3709[29/12/2014, 3:08:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: later peter
3710[29/12/2014, 3:08:41 AM] Alex Lifschitz: hahahahahahaha
3711[29/12/2014, 3:08:49 AM] drinternetphd: pfwaahaha yeah ok
3712[29/12/2014, 3:09:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): At least Mike is self-aware he has no standards, right? right?
3713[29/12/2014, 3:09:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): jk
3714[29/12/2014, 3:09:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Jul 27
3715
3716An apology is not degrading. It's simply a recognition that you didn't meet the standard of integrity. It happens to everyone.
3717[29/12/2014, 3:09:14 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Her Chris remember when he though a guy named Jerry Beans was coordinating an astroturfing campaign
3718[29/12/2014, 3:09:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: hehe
3719[29/12/2014, 3:09:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: well, he is a conspiracy theorist after all
3720[29/12/2014, 3:09:39 AM] Alex Lifschitz: https://twitter.com/leyawn/status/541730235927265280
3721[29/12/2014, 3:09:39 AM] Tesseract: oh god he has a huge youtube channel
3722[29/12/2014, 3:09:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mike C?
3723[29/12/2014, 3:09:47 AM] Tesseract: I can only imagine what horrors lurk within
3724[29/12/2014, 3:09:48 AM] Tesseract: https://www.youtube.com/user/DangerAndPlay
3725[29/12/2014, 3:09:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: BiddleFail?
3726[29/12/2014, 3:10:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Featured video: "How to deal with haters"
3727[29/12/2014, 3:10:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG
3728[29/12/2014, 3:10:30 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Jul 25
3729
3730Lawyers can and do make accusations that are without merit. We issue subpoenas. Then we drop the lawsuit.
3731[29/12/2014, 3:10:33 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Watching BronzeHammer fuck with Cernovich like that was glorious
3732[29/12/2014, 3:11:18 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): His voice is so much higher than you'd expect
3733[29/12/2014, 3:12:00 AM] Chris Kluwe: the self awareness
3734[29/12/2014, 3:12:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Jul 23
3735
3736Once you create an image or persona, you will lie to preserve that image. Or you believe that image is real and act like the persona.
3737[29/12/2014, 3:12:37 AM] Tesseract: "Did Zoe Quinn admit to killing someone? If so, I will file a police report on Monday. Source please. #GamerGate"
3738[29/12/2014, 3:12:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "Alpha Male Body Language Exercises " is the title of one of his videos
3739[29/12/2014, 3:13:34 AM] Charloppe: bahahahahahhahahahah
3740[29/12/2014, 3:13:51 AM] Rob: Let me guess, it's basically 'pelvic thrust all the time'?
3741[29/12/2014, 3:14:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): close. it'
3742[29/12/2014, 3:14:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it's puffing out your chest when lifting
3743[29/12/2014, 3:14:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): NSFL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbDCxj39giE
3744[29/12/2014, 3:14:52 AM] Charloppe: so alpha
3745[29/12/2014, 3:14:54 AM] Charloppe: very wow
3746[29/12/2014, 3:15:20 AM] Charloppe: pls go on to tell me how you abuse women in a alpha way too
3747[29/12/2014, 3:15:41 AM] Rob: Mike Cernovich's Juice and Man Chowder Bar
3748[29/12/2014, 3:15:55 AM] Charloppe: best gay bar name ever
3749[29/12/2014, 3:15:55 AM] Tesseract: puff out your chest to intimidate other males
3750[29/12/2014, 3:16:23 AM] Chris Kluwe: loooool rob
3751[29/12/2014, 3:16:35 AM] Chris Kluwe: my twitch stream name is "Topless Vorici's Sushi Bar and Stab Shack"
3752[29/12/2014, 3:16:40 AM] Rob: Hahahhaa
3753[29/12/2014, 3:16:41 AM] drinternetphd: kluwe
3754[29/12/2014, 3:16:42 AM] Rob: that's awesome
3755[29/12/2014, 3:16:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: was a path of exile joke
3756[29/12/2014, 3:16:47 AM] drinternetphd: can I make a request?
3757[29/12/2014, 3:16:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: of course
3758[29/12/2014, 3:17:00 AM] drinternetphd: if there's any way you could get juicebro to admit eron brought him into this
3759[29/12/2014, 3:17:03 AM] drinternetphd: that would be tremendous
3760[29/12/2014, 3:17:07 AM] drinternetphd: especially if it's being recorded.
3761[29/12/2014, 3:17:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: no problemo
3762[29/12/2014, 3:17:27 AM] Chris Kluwe: that's actually what i told him we'd start with, "the origins of gamergate"
3763[29/12/2014, 3:17:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: so it shouldn't be hard at all
3764[29/12/2014, 3:17:34 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Oct 22
3765
3766Zoe Quinn wanted to be a high priestess. To keep the high ground, you must be moral. The mask always falls off a hypocrite. #GamerGate
3767[29/12/2014, 3:17:35 AM] Tesseract: what
3768[29/12/2014, 3:17:47 AM] drinternetphd: motherfucker aint even playin persona
3769[29/12/2014, 3:17:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I was about to say. trying too hard there, Mike
3770[29/12/2014, 3:18:19 AM] Charloppe: is playing persona q right now
3771[29/12/2014, 3:18:26 AM] drinternetphd: so uh
3772[29/12/2014, 3:18:32 AM] drinternetphd: I may have pointed a journo in the direction of the debate
3773[29/12/2014, 3:18:33 AM] drinternetphd: hope that's ok
3774[29/12/2014, 3:18:55 AM] Chris Kluwe: no worries at all
3775[29/12/2014, 3:20:01 AM] drinternetphd: I am turning into a social justice rogue
3776[29/12/2014, 3:20:05 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Sep 27
3777
3778@jennatar @felisconcolori @KevinWGlass @Popehat I believe people who make unlawful threats should be ID'ed. Not sure why controversial.
3779[29/12/2014, 3:20:19 AM] Tesseract: now he's posting about zoe doxxing him like a fucktrillion times
3780[29/12/2014, 3:20:37 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525234003708628992 !!!!!!!!!
3781[29/12/2014, 3:20:44 AM] Tesseract: attn zoe
3782[29/12/2014, 3:20:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris, uh oh, that goes against GamerGate's "don't dox us" rule
3783[29/12/2014, 3:21:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Sep 26
3784
3785I just heard that Eron Gjoni is facing a lawsuit. If you know him, put him in touch with me. I will help him pro bono. #GamerGate
3786[29/12/2014, 3:21:29 AM] drinternetphd: link?
3787[29/12/2014, 3:22:03 AM] drinternetphd: nvm found it
3788[29/12/2014, 3:22:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess/Zoe: both of those tweets archived:
3789
3790https://web.archive.org/web/20141228192101/https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525234003708628992
3791
3792https://web.archive.org/web/20141228192158/https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/515639835957018624
3793[29/12/2014, 3:28:04 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Chris, you screencapping these tweets too? Could always use them for the article.
3794[29/12/2014, 3:28:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Another avenue of publicity re: Cernovich has recently made itself apparent but we're not moving until it's more concrete. For now, we're still planning our big-picture callout and kicking it up to the right folks.
3795[29/12/2014, 3:28:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: i haven't been, but i can go back and find them
3796[29/12/2014, 3:29:10 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Eh, at your leisure. We'll pool resources post-interview.
3797[29/12/2014, 3:29:16 AM] Chris Kluwe: it's basically just going through his twitter feed from august-october
3798[29/12/2014, 3:29:26 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We still have his ongoing dossier in the Trello with all those C&F links you posted.
3799[29/12/2014, 3:29:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: ok cool
3800[29/12/2014, 3:29:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: i think those are the important ones
3801[29/12/2014, 3:30:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: because it's clear he's writing for a totally different audience there than his gorillablog
3802[29/12/2014, 3:30:09 AM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously Dec 8
3803
3804It's called "subspace." Yes, I literally fuck the life of god into women.
3805[29/12/2014, 3:30:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: and you can still see the vileness
3806[29/12/2014, 3:30:15 AM] Tesseract: what the hell is the context of that
3807[29/12/2014, 3:30:29 AM] Tesseract: super juice bros: the subspace emissary
3808[29/12/2014, 3:30:41 AM] drinternetphd: um
3809[29/12/2014, 3:30:46 AM] drinternetphd: that's not even what subspace means in kink terms
3810[29/12/2014, 3:30:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: If you find anything, like, horrid, be sure to screencap and upload to the trello or paste the link in his dossier.
3811[29/12/2014, 3:32:28 AM] Chris Kluwe: well, it's pretty much all horrid, but i know what you mean
3812[29/12/2014, 3:32:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ugh, Twitter has been bugging out a lot lately. I'll reply to a tweet but then when I refresh the page, it will put my tweet as a reply to another in the thread (or its showing them out of order)
3813[29/12/2014, 3:32:54 AM] Rob: HAHA I love it when old enemies of mine come back
3814[29/12/2014, 3:33:02 AM] Rob: especially fucking MRA shitbags
3815[29/12/2014, 3:33:25 AM] drinternetphd: oh?
3816[29/12/2014, 3:33:36 AM] Rob: https://twitter.com/UnseenPerfidy/status/549285677980860416
3817[29/12/2014, 3:33:49 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like, we have him up and down going WOMEN SUCK AND RAPE IS SPLENDID but anything new or particularly hinky should be good to note.
3818[29/12/2014, 3:33:53 AM] Rob: He's one of the "I'm not an MRA but I believe everything MRAs say but never criticize them" assholes
3819[29/12/2014, 3:36:08 AM] Randi Harper: "RAPE IS SPLENDID"
3820[29/12/2014, 3:36:12 AM] Randi Harper: that line has me cracking up
3821[29/12/2014, 3:36:19 AM] Tesseract: lmao he ended an article with "Yet when the media refuses to acknowlege that I have been a victim (by their standards) of harassment, doxing, and a potential Swatting, we know that there is a serious problem with ethics in journalism."
3822[29/12/2014, 3:36:37 AM] Tesseract: I cannot believe juicebro dropped an Actually It's About Ethics
3823[29/12/2014, 3:36:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: "Potential" swatting?
3824[29/12/2014, 3:36:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Can he please make up his fucking mind already
3825[29/12/2014, 3:36:44 AM] drinternetphd: i'm sorry tesseract you appear to have typed something but all I see is fart noises
3826[29/12/2014, 3:36:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG. He's not even sure he was swatted now?
3827[29/12/2014, 3:37:01 AM] Randi Harper: "i thought someone was going to SWAT me so it practically almost happened and why isn't anyone reporting on this"
3828[29/12/2014, 3:37:22 AM] Alex Lifschitz: So far he has two answers for who doxxed him, if he got swatted, etc. He's like the Quantum Asshole
3829[29/12/2014, 3:37:38 AM] drinternetphd: "I thought someone was going to swat me from telling a nonprofit org that I was doing things that I was doing why is this not on the nyt frontpage"
3830[29/12/2014, 3:38:03 AM] drinternetphd: like no one even called the police
3831[29/12/2014, 3:38:09 AM] drinternetphd: crimestoppers is a 3rd party tip line
3832[29/12/2014, 3:38:09 AM] Randi Harper: it makes me sad that he blocked me
3833[29/12/2014, 3:38:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh the swatting
3834[29/12/2014, 3:38:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can't wait to pin him down on that
3835[29/12/2014, 3:38:21 AM] Tesseract: iirc he claims he fled his home as a "precaution"
3836[29/12/2014, 3:38:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The Swattening
3837[29/12/2014, 3:38:46 AM] Randi Harper: does he also wear a tinfoil hat as a precaution?
3838[29/12/2014, 3:38:53 AM] Tesseract: thus making it seem like he's the victim of a credible swatting threat and he didn't just stay in a hotel overnight in a ploy to make himself look like a victim
3839[29/12/2014, 3:39:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: unknown, randi, does tinfoil interfere with thetans?
3840[29/12/2014, 3:39:07 AM] drinternetphd: lol
3841[29/12/2014, 3:39:13 AM] drinternetphd: god wouldn't that make so much sene
3842[29/12/2014, 3:39:15 AM] drinternetphd: *sense
3843[29/12/2014, 3:39:21 AM] drinternetphd: if he just becomes a scientologist
3844[29/12/2014, 3:39:32 AM] Tesseract: how many thetans are in super serum
3845[29/12/2014, 3:39:39 AM] Chris Kluwe: well we already know he's a conspiracy theorist
3846[29/12/2014, 3:39:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): FYI, if you want to see some mental gymnastics and conspiracy theories in a single tweet, Jordan Owen's got your back: https://twitter.com/jordanowen42/status/549276401850155008
3847[29/12/2014, 3:39:47 AM] Chris Kluwe: so scientology would be the next logical step
3848[29/12/2014, 3:39:51 AM] Rob: "I fled my home as a precaution, but condoms are stupid. RAW DOG!"
3849[29/12/2014, 3:40:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: izzy
3850[29/12/2014, 3:40:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: wut
3851[29/12/2014, 3:40:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: is
3852[29/12/2014, 3:40:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: that
3853[29/12/2014, 3:40:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Jordan believes we were the ones posting CP to 8chan to frame them
3854[29/12/2014, 3:40:38 AM] Dan Olson: I picked up Nidhogg. I am now prepared to get schooled harder than I ever have before.
3855[29/12/2014, 3:40:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh no, i got the context, it just refused to compute in my mind
3856[29/12/2014, 3:40:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): haha
3857[29/12/2014, 3:41:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: it was like reading "The sun came up therefore lizard people are controlling Obama"
3858[29/12/2014, 3:41:39 AM] Dan Olson: The only ones trading CP are SJWs who then accuse pedophiles of trading CP!
3859[29/12/2014, 3:41:54 AM] Dan Olson: Pedophiles don't actually like CP!
3860[29/12/2014, 3:42:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): SJWCONSPIRACY
3861[29/12/2014, 3:42:32 AM] Randi Harper: dying laughing
3862[29/12/2014, 3:42:32 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/blaktron/status/549289040886112258
3863[29/12/2014, 3:42:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Or when GGers say we are pulling the "protect the children" card. and I repond with "Oh, so you don't think child porn hurts real children?" and then go silent
3864[29/12/2014, 3:42:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): or double down on their stupidity
3865[29/12/2014, 3:44:18 AM] Dan Olson: From my research the grimdark real answer is that tons of these sick fucks convince themselves the kids really like it, too
3866[29/12/2014, 3:44:53 AM] Randi Harper: "Consensual sex" is a myth. It's all simply training young boys to be future rapists. #GamerGate
3867[29/12/2014, 3:44:56 AM] Randi Harper: this person is amazing
3868[29/12/2014, 3:45:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
3869[29/12/2014, 3:45:17 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/sartoni83  I love this troll.
3870[29/12/2014, 3:45:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AH!
3871[29/12/2014, 3:45:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah, they are brilliant
3872[29/12/2014, 3:45:35 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/sartoni83/status/549250435169939457
3873[29/12/2014, 3:45:41 AM] Randi Harper: @715d1 @_icze4r @Maffewgregg @CNN tried to get more info about the hacker known as 4chan but he is anonymous. And behind 7 proxies.
3874[29/12/2014, 3:45:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): XD
3875[29/12/2014, 3:47:43 AM] Tesseract: alright I finished digging through his tweets on anything about zoe, going to a movie now but I'll go through the rest of my list of names later
3876[29/12/2014, 3:47:46 AM] Tesseract: Conspiracy bullshit:
3877https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/502776746958401536 - Polytron Hack
3878https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/506517809531072512 - Anita death threats
3879
3880ROK:
3881https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525258325026304001
3882https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547255952055861249
3883
3884Zoe Quinn:
3885https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523652990947708928 - Whore
3886https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523653151665053697 - Threat (?)
3887https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523656265990299650 - Killed someone
3888https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523657008990273536 - Killed someone
3889https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523720747122835456 - Killed someone
3890https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523721289207279616 - Killed someone
3891https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523723498061959168 - Killed someone, possible doxx
3892https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/524034856322207746 - Court info
3893https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525234003708628992 - "If Zoe hadn't obtained a protective order to shut someone up, I never would have been involved. People who don't like me have her to thank."
3894https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525302825551544320 - Possible doxx
3895
3896Article 1 (Zoe Quinn, Eron Gjoni):
3897https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525236423394201600
3898https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525237008285704192
3899https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525245193767768066
3900https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525315943887417344 
3901https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/525407955030507520
3902
3903Article 2 (Zoe Quinn, Margaret Pless, little bit on Randi Harper):
3904https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546080915948986368
3905https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546082075812446208
3906https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546082676419993600
3907https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546083138942681088 - Blatant
3908https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546108075472457730
3909https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546490060128780289
3910https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546490335656804354
3911https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546504797528915968
3912https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546860804872499200
3913https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/546884002049556480
3914https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547186818840412160
3915https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/547291102449893376
3916[29/12/2014, 3:48:02 AM] Tesseract: there's a lot less than I thought, mostly it's just the same shit
3917[29/12/2014, 3:48:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: thanks
3918[29/12/2014, 3:48:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): damn, Tess. A+ digging as usual
3919[29/12/2014, 3:48:41 AM] Tesseract: now I'm curious about this "subspace" shit he was tweeting about
3920[29/12/2014, 3:48:57 AM] drinternetphd: ok so
3921[29/12/2014, 3:49:14 AM] drinternetphd: that term means the headspace people who are subs get into where they're like totally roleplayed out
3922[29/12/2014, 3:49:31 AM] drinternetphd: like the "will do anything for the dom/enjoying anything being dished out actively" type stuff
3923[29/12/2014, 3:49:44 AM] drinternetphd: basically it's been described to me as like a transcendant kind of roleplay headspace
3924[29/12/2014, 3:49:50 AM] Tesseract: oh I meant I thought he was posting some ridiculous super serum esque shit but this explanation works also
3925[29/12/2014, 3:49:57 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Damn good work, Tess. Add to his dossier in the trello?
3926[29/12/2014, 3:50:03 AM] drinternetphd: (I have a lot of friends into kink stuff and seem to be everyone's sex therapist haha)
3927[29/12/2014, 3:50:37 AM] drinternetphd: the more you know ===*
3928[29/12/2014, 3:50:37 AM] Tesseract: yeah
3929[29/12/2014, 3:50:52 AM] Tesseract: I suspect he's posted a lot of incriminating shit that I didn't pick up with the search terms
3930[29/12/2014, 3:50:56 AM] Tesseract: esp. images
3931[29/12/2014, 3:51:37 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/542084153752055808 lol (attn untimely)
3932[29/12/2014, 3:52:11 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey, there's me in that screenshot, too!
3933[29/12/2014, 3:52:39 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/541840297601159168 oh it was in response to this tweet (attn ian)
3934[29/12/2014, 3:52:59 AM] Tesseract: I thought he was just fucking with us with that tweet in an attempt to backpedal from his super serum shit but I guess not?
3935[29/12/2014, 3:53:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
3936[29/12/2014, 3:53:35 AM] Tesseract: Correct. @ChuckCJohnson was well within his legal rights to protect the public from a predator. #IStandWithJackie
3937[29/12/2014, 3:53:53 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/541809621820645376 lol
3938[29/12/2014, 3:54:37 AM] Tesseract: alright see ya
3939[29/12/2014, 3:54:42 AM] Tesseract: will finish digging when I get back
3940[29/12/2014, 3:54:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): cya
3941[29/12/2014, 3:55:07 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Cool. Tess, I added that first tweetdump to Cerno's dossier.
3942[29/12/2014, 3:56:55 AM] Tesseract: oh I almost forgot, if anyone could archive those it'd be helpful
3943[29/12/2014, 3:58:28 AM] Randi Harper: oh god I need to get off modcloth nowww
3944[29/12/2014, 3:58:52 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Archived. I added them in a tweetdump card and linked it to Mike's dossier.
3945[29/12/2014, 4:09:32 AM] Chris Kluwe: Chris Kluwe can now participate in this chat
3946[29/12/2014, 4:14:23 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Just checking, has anyone sent Aurini's really noxious racist stuff to Patreon?
3947[29/12/2014, 4:15:59 AM] Quinnae: Afternoon all.
3948[29/12/2014, 4:16:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: heya
3949[29/12/2014, 4:16:45 AM] Rob: Hi, Katherine. And not sure, alex.
3950[29/12/2014, 4:16:46 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Afternoon Katherine
3951[29/12/2014, 4:17:13 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I'd say we give them some breathing room since they're gonna be fucking pounded when 8chan gets taken down, then move to get SE de-listed
3952[29/12/2014, 4:20:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
3953[29/12/2014, 4:20:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: http://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qlxh2/gamergate_did_some_digging/
3954[29/12/2014, 4:20:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: they're full /r/conspiracy now
3955[29/12/2014, 4:21:36 AM] Quinnae: "Gamergate did some digging..." a sentence that portends naught but facepalms and migraines.
3956[29/12/2014, 4:22:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: apparently
3957[29/12/2014, 4:22:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: we're all part of a vast conspiracy
3958[29/12/2014, 4:22:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: started at SA
3959[29/12/2014, 4:22:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: and ending with the Frankfurt School
3960[29/12/2014, 4:22:40 AM] Quinnae: The Frankfurt School nonsense is doubly irritating because it is part of the sociological canon, but I've been afraid of explaining that publicly for fear of feeding their conspiracy mongering.
3961[29/12/2014, 4:23:17 AM] Quinnae: It's just that the Frankfurt School is one of dozens of influences on modern social theory, and one that plenty of social scientists are skeptical of or outright critical of.
3962[29/12/2014, 4:23:47 AM] Quinnae: You know. Like most disciplines. We're hardly a unified field marching in lockstep, there remains plenty of lively debate.
3963[29/12/2014, 4:23:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: NO
3964[29/12/2014, 4:23:57 AM] Chris Kluwe: CONSPIRACY
3965[29/12/2014, 4:24:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES?!
3966[29/12/2014, 4:24:09 AM] Quinnae: To say nothing of the fact that there were many different Frankfurt School theorists, some of whom I prefer over others.
3967[29/12/2014, 4:24:12 AM] Quinnae: laughs
3968[29/12/2014, 4:24:26 AM] Quinnae: My crimes are disagreeing with Theodor Adorno about Richard Wagner's opera. =O
3969[29/12/2014, 4:25:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: HATE
3970[29/12/2014, 4:25:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: HATE
3971[29/12/2014, 4:25:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: HATE
3972[29/12/2014, 4:25:21 AM] Chris Kluwe: please report to the GamerMinistry for processing
3973[29/12/2014, 4:28:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Okay, brbing with Zoe to Pike Place Market to get some baller-ass ginger beer and eggnog
3974[29/12/2014, 4:29:02 AM] Quinnae: Haha, have fun you two. :)
3975[29/12/2014, 4:29:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: sounds delicious
3976[29/12/2014, 4:29:09 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm gonna go write
3977[29/12/2014, 4:29:15 AM] Quinnae: I do miss Seattle. Hopefully I can go back there before too long.
3978[29/12/2014, 4:29:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: be back for "DEBATEHAPPYETHICSFUNTIME" later
3979[29/12/2014, 4:29:26 AM] Quinnae: Haha, have fun, Chris!
3980[29/12/2014, 4:29:43 AM] drinternetphd: chris we will also I am learning how to poach eggs just to destroy you
3981[29/12/2014, 4:29:55 AM] drinternetphd: fyi
3982[29/12/2014, 4:30:16 AM] drinternetphd: later~
3983[29/12/2014, 4:40:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I made it on a top hashtag list of the year! https://twitter.com/Veeren_Jubbal/status/549295233444237312
3984[29/12/2014, 4:41:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Also, hi.
3985[29/12/2014, 4:46:26 AM] Remy: Good afternoon everyone!
3986[29/12/2014, 4:47:01 AM] Remy: And hello Veerender :D
3987[29/12/2014, 4:51:35 AM] Quinnae: Afternoon!
3988[29/12/2014, 4:51:43 AM] Quinnae: Also, grats, Veerender!
3989[29/12/2014, 4:51:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hey, Stephen!
3990[29/12/2014, 4:51:56 AM] Veerender Jubbal: blows kiss at Katherine
3991[29/12/2014, 4:52:23 AM] David Gallant: Hey folks.
3992[29/12/2014, 4:57:49 AM] Quinnae: Mr. Gallant. curtsy
3993[29/12/2014, 4:59:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: So, I heard--that Mundane Matt's tweet about me got into Reddit, and that must be why it has not stopped.
3994[29/12/2014, 4:59:13 AM] David Gallant: Sounds about right, Veerender.
3995[29/12/2014, 4:59:17 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I did not know until someone just told me on Twitter, right now.
3996[29/12/2014, 4:59:21 AM] David Gallant: How are you, Katherine
3997[29/12/2014, 4:59:33 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): work from home:
39981. wake up 15 min before having to start shift.
39992. take shower during lunch break
40003. chill with cats and dog by your side
4001[29/12/2014, 4:59:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :)
4002[29/12/2014, 4:59:59 AM] Quinnae: pets Izzy
4003[29/12/2014, 5:00:01 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Haha
4004[29/12/2014, 5:00:05 AM] Quinnae: Sorry Veerender. :(
4005[29/12/2014, 5:00:10 AM] Quinnae: And, I'm quite well, David!
4006[29/12/2014, 5:00:32 AM] Quinnae: Relaxing, slept late, watching my girlfriend play the VN I got for her for Christmas, drinking coffee, and Twitter being relatively nice to me.
4007[29/12/2014, 5:00:44 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Sounds like a lot of fun!
4008[29/12/2014, 5:01:01 AM] Quinnae: That said, I got a tweet from David Auerbach being all "Yeah, I'm surprised GG didn't give into Nazism sooner" and I just wanted to slap him.
4009[29/12/2014, 5:01:17 AM] Quinnae: Few people have upset me quite as much as he has throughout this sorry saga.
4010[29/12/2014, 5:01:22 AM] Athena Hollow: He's such a fence hopping asshat.
4011[29/12/2014, 5:01:54 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Holy crap! You are now AcidBurn?! That is metal, Athena!
4012[29/12/2014, 5:01:59 AM] David Gallant: I had forgotten about him. Been hard to keep track of all the players.
4013[29/12/2014, 5:01:59 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
4014[29/12/2014, 5:02:03 AM] Quinnae: He's a man who has uniquely combined moral cowardice with preening, condescending sexism in a way I didn't think possible.
4015[29/12/2014, 5:02:30 AM] Athena Hollow: Yeah, I've wanted to toss him into a volcano since the first day he entertained "MAYBE TWO SIDES??"
4016[29/12/2014, 5:02:58 AM] Quinnae: He's such a massive wanker. He personally insulted my writing and that of other women as "defective social science," reinforced the slandering of Leigh Alexander (and mansplained Twitter to her in the process), kept the Nazi meme about Ian alive...
4017[29/12/2014, 5:03:07 AM] Athena Hollow: all under the guise of being an ethical journalist; propping up the golden mean fallacy. such. a. douche.
4018[29/12/2014, 5:03:15 AM] Quinnae: He also tried to pick apart my First Person Scholar essay with esoteric quibbles that had little to do with what I was arguing.
4019[29/12/2014, 5:03:45 AM] Quinnae: But he, of course, needed to heap his superior man-knowledge on me, because only he knew how best to stick up for the ladies. Unlike, you know, the actual ladies who were being attacked.
4020[29/12/2014, 5:03:56 AM] Quinnae: So for him to be all "yeah I saw this coming" No, fuck you, asshole
4021[29/12/2014, 5:04:37 AM] Quinnae: We were under fire for weeks and months while you were busy trying to get on GG's good side when it was convenient.
4022[29/12/2014, 5:04:47 AM] Athena Hollow: I cant wait until the next few years shows more and more of these assholes complaining about not being able to find quality gigs anymore, all because they pulled this bullshit.
4023[29/12/2014, 5:04:50 AM] Remy: I don't know who this person is
4024[29/12/2014, 5:04:52 AM] Athena Hollow: From devs to writers, etc.
4025[29/12/2014, 5:05:16 AM] Quinnae: And now that you can't sell us up the river because it's dried up, now you're all "Yeah, saw it coming"? extends middle finger
4026[29/12/2014, 5:05:20 AM] Quinnae: Sorry, needed to rant. :P
4027[29/12/2014, 5:05:27 AM] Quinnae: And yes, Athena, totally agree.
4028[29/12/2014, 5:05:29 AM] Remy: lol
4029[29/12/2014, 5:05:37 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha he's a writer Stephen. A douchebag elitist mansplaining fuckwad.
4030[29/12/2014, 5:05:41 AM] Quinnae: And Stephen, this guy is a Slate writer who covered GG for them in editorials.
4031[29/12/2014, 5:05:46 AM] Remy: Just gimme his Twitter handle and let me find some pro-GG stuff in his timeline to remind him of his modesty
4032[29/12/2014, 5:05:54 AM] Quinnae: He doesn't have the class to be an elitist.
4033[29/12/2014, 5:06:00 AM] Athena Hollow: Sorry
4034[29/12/2014, 5:06:04 AM] Athena Hollow: PRETEND elitist
4035[29/12/2014, 5:06:08 AM] Athena Hollow: he THINKS he's elite :D
4036[29/12/2014, 5:06:17 AM] Quinnae: Eh, I'd rather not start fights with him but I appreciate the sentiment, Stephen. :)
4037[29/12/2014, 5:06:34 AM] Remy: lol okay
4038[29/12/2014, 5:06:45 AM] Remy: I wasn't gonna drag you into it ^_^
4039[29/12/2014, 5:06:49 AM] Remy: But I understand
4040[29/12/2014, 5:07:05 AM] Remy: I just like to call people out when they pretend they aren't backtracking
4041[29/12/2014, 5:07:51 AM] Quinnae: But yeah, in one editorial he was all "What is wrong with Leigh Alexander? Twitter is what's wrong with her!"
4042[29/12/2014, 5:08:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Veerender, wtf is Izel doing trying to bug you?
4043[29/12/2014, 5:08:16 AM] Quinnae: He took cheap shots at people who were already under heavy fire.
4044[29/12/2014, 5:08:17 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh izel.
4045[29/12/2014, 5:08:22 AM] Athena Hollow: izel has me blocked LOL
4046[29/12/2014, 5:08:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Same. Blocked me a long time ago
4047[29/12/2014, 5:08:31 AM] Quinnae: Yeah, I saw that. Hope you're alright Veerender.
4048[29/12/2014, 5:08:36 AM] Quinnae: Best not to engage him.
4049[29/12/2014, 5:08:46 AM] Remy: I was actually surprised at how much and how quickly I became blocked
4050[29/12/2014, 5:08:47 AM] Athena Hollow: Izel is straight bonkers
4051[29/12/2014, 5:08:57 AM] Remy: I rarely jump into other timelines to bash GG they're usually more than willing to come to me
4052[29/12/2014, 5:08:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Izel started going at Veerender it seems. :(
4053[29/12/2014, 5:09:06 AM] Athena Hollow: He's another one that is either one epic troll, or a true tin foil hatter.
4054[29/12/2014, 5:09:29 AM] Athena Hollow: Mr. RICO act XD
4055[29/12/2014, 5:10:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I should be fine...
4056[29/12/2014, 5:10:16 AM] David Gallant: Remember how well that RICO shit went?
4057[29/12/2014, 5:10:22 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4058[29/12/2014, 5:10:41 AM] Quinnae: Veerender, I think you ought to hang out with us in here instead of doing battle with these fools. ;)
4059[29/12/2014, 5:11:57 AM] Quinnae: (Granted, I've not been the best at taking my own advice in this regard, but, do as I say and not as I do! winks)
4060[29/12/2014, 5:12:08 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4061[29/12/2014, 5:13:46 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hahahahaha!
4062[29/12/2014, 5:13:51 AM] Remy: Hey Izzy I sent out some bait to see if I could distract that Izel dude
4063[29/12/2014, 5:13:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: None of us take our own advice!
4064[29/12/2014, 5:14:01 AM] Remy: But honestly unless I change my avatar to something that isn't a white dude
4065[29/12/2014, 5:14:13 AM] Remy: I'm never going to be given the kind of priority everyone else gets for abuse
4066[29/12/2014, 5:14:22 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Obvs.
4067[29/12/2014, 5:14:43 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Change it to a Sikh character. winks
4068[29/12/2014, 5:14:50 AM] David Gallant: Stephen - just talk about masturbation, and make a direct threat against their precious games.
4069[29/12/2014, 5:14:54 AM] David Gallant: It worked for me.
4070[29/12/2014, 5:14:55 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4071[29/12/2014, 5:15:03 AM] Remy: I couldn't pull it off Veerender I'm not sexy enough
4072[29/12/2014, 5:15:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): a DMX song started playing on the radio. my dog came running from the bedroom to see what was up...
4073[29/12/2014, 5:15:14 AM] Veerender Jubbal: sniggers
4074[29/12/2014, 5:15:47 AM] Remy: That's a nice thought, David. I have been considering recommending masturbation to improve their attitudes about life
4075[29/12/2014, 5:15:55 AM] Remy: XD
4076[29/12/2014, 5:16:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Mastubation
4077[29/12/2014, 5:16:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): *
4078[29/12/2014, 5:19:28 AM] Remy: azalea tried to snark back once but he's got no traction with me so I doubt he'll go full in.
4079[29/12/2014, 5:19:43 AM] Remy: Gah, I need to give them the appearance of weakness. Perhaps if I pretended that their opinions affected me somehow
4080[29/12/2014, 5:21:03 AM] David Gallant: They do like to focus on my meltdowns, Stephen.
4081[29/12/2014, 5:21:56 AM] Remy: I haven't seen you have a meltdown, which isn't to say that you haven't had one, but that I have never been present for behavior that would lead me to believe you were experiencing one
4082[29/12/2014, 5:22:17 AM] David Gallant: Yeah. I've had a few.
4083[29/12/2014, 5:22:31 AM] David Gallant: I tend to vent on Twitter when I'm low.
4084[29/12/2014, 5:25:33 AM] Veerender Jubbal: People be obsessive.
4085[29/12/2014, 5:25:54 AM] David Gallant: Indeed, Veerender.
4086[29/12/2014, 5:27:52 AM] Quinnae: Speaking of obsessive, I hope that creep isn't still following me.
4087[29/12/2014, 5:28:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Just called out GG and Roosh. See Serious chat for Twitter link to report
4088[29/12/2014, 5:28:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549315799203082241
4089[29/12/2014, 5:29:08 AM] Athena Hollow: the one I went off on & called creepy, Katherine? lol
4090[29/12/2014, 5:29:17 AM] Quinnae: Yeah, Athena
4091[29/12/2014, 5:29:29 AM] Quinnae: Izzy, already reported him. thumbs up
4092[29/12/2014, 5:29:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Cool
4093[29/12/2014, 5:30:25 AM] David Gallant: Oh yeah. I need an invite to the new serious chat.
4094[29/12/2014, 5:30:54 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah. Do you haev 2FA enabled for your Skype account?
4095[29/12/2014, 5:31:21 AM] David Gallant: I do now.
4096[29/12/2014, 5:31:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok. i'll add you
4097[29/12/2014, 5:32:17 AM] David Gallant: Thanks
4098[29/12/2014, 5:32:23 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): np
4099[29/12/2014, 5:33:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): David, report this tweet for doxing/Private Info
4100[29/12/2014, 5:33:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): On 29/12/2014, at 5:19 AM, Izzy (@iglvzx) wrote:
4101> https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/546327590416711680
4102
4103[29/12/2014, 5:39:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): On 29/12/2014, at 5:38 AM, Izzy (@iglvzx) wrote:
4104> MRA's are such lovely people: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549318417950322688
4105
4106[29/12/2014, 5:39:17 AM] David Gallant: Reported.
4107[29/12/2014, 5:39:20 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Thanks
4108[29/12/2014, 5:49:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Who is this? The way they tweet is worrysome. can't tell what they are up to.. https://twitter.com/ggautomuter/status/549320919274246145
4109[29/12/2014, 5:49:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Looks like another reincarnation of @TFYCulturalMarxist
4110[29/12/2014, 5:50:12 AM] Remy: yup
4111[29/12/2014, 5:50:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): \distances himself\
4112[29/12/2014, 5:52:46 AM] Remy: I've been doing that as well, Izzy
4113[29/12/2014, 5:54:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yo.
4114[29/12/2014, 5:54:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hey!
4115[29/12/2014, 5:54:29 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/JeffCallahan75/status/549308416209215488
4116[29/12/2014, 5:54:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Look at this.
4117[29/12/2014, 5:54:40 AM] Veerender Jubbal: White folk.
4118[29/12/2014, 5:54:48 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow
4119[29/12/2014, 5:54:52 AM] Remy: talk about fan art
4120[29/12/2014, 5:55:03 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yo--it is pretty fucking ugly!
4121[29/12/2014, 5:55:10 AM] Randi Harper: o_O
4122[29/12/2014, 5:55:20 AM] Remy: The text bubble is physically painful to look at
4123[29/12/2014, 5:55:32 AM] Remy: Like it feels like it's literally stabbing my eyes
4124[29/12/2014, 5:55:33 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I have the best life at 20.
4125[29/12/2014, 5:55:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): and then the reply by  Sgt. Giggle Mittens. Such irony
4126[29/12/2014, 5:55:53 AM] Randi Harper: I had this user blocked already
4127[29/12/2014, 5:55:55 AM] Randi Harper: and all of the replies
4128[29/12/2014, 5:55:57 AM] Randi Harper: I am queen of blocks
4129[29/12/2014, 5:55:59 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4130[29/12/2014, 5:56:05 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Randi is the best.
4131[29/12/2014, 5:56:14 AM] Remy: ^
4132[29/12/2014, 5:56:17 AM] Remy: agreed
4133[29/12/2014, 5:56:21 AM] Quinnae: Veerender, you're 20?
4134[29/12/2014, 5:56:28 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yeah!
4135[29/12/2014, 5:56:29 AM] Remy: That is also shocking me as well
4136[29/12/2014, 5:56:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): 20 years wise
4137[29/12/2014, 5:56:33 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I am the baby of the group.
4138[29/12/2014, 5:56:33 AM] Athena Hollow: they are the fuckin worst at photochops LOL
4139[29/12/2014, 5:56:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: People think I am late twenties because of how I tweet, and write.
4140[29/12/2014, 5:56:52 AM] Remy: Now I feel guilty for flirting with you Veerender you're so young XD
4141[29/12/2014, 5:56:59 AM] Athena Hollow: hahaha
4142[29/12/2014, 5:57:11 AM] Randi Harper: hold on, screencapping and replying OOB
4143[29/12/2014, 5:57:19 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hahaha!
4144[29/12/2014, 5:57:21 AM] Quinnae: Wow, and here I thought at 27 (well, 28 as of last week) I was the "baby" :P
4145[29/12/2014, 5:57:29 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Hahahahahaha!
4146[29/12/2014, 5:57:39 AM] Veerender Jubbal: takes Katherine's throne of being a child
4147[29/12/2014, 5:57:56 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine, I'm 24
4148[29/12/2014, 5:57:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I rarely say my age on the Internet.
4149[29/12/2014, 5:58:38 AM] Athena Hollow: >_>
4150[29/12/2014, 5:58:49 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh, shit. I just say this, Randi.
4151[29/12/2014, 5:58:49 AM] Athena Hollow: I'll be 30 in july lol
4152[29/12/2014, 5:59:02 AM] Rob: I'll be 30 in june, athena
4153[29/12/2014, 5:59:04 AM] Veerender Jubbal: saw*
4154[29/12/2014, 5:59:09 AM] Athena Hollow: ^5 Rob!
4155[29/12/2014, 5:59:10 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/freebsdgirl/status/549323437395955712
4156[29/12/2014, 5:59:16 AM] Veerender Jubbal: 21 in January.
4157[29/12/2014, 5:59:33 AM] Remy: Your birthday is next month as well?
4158[29/12/2014, 5:59:45 AM] Randi Harper: so young.
4159[29/12/2014, 5:59:50 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Babies.
4160[29/12/2014, 6:00:03 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Still older than a lot of GGers
4161[29/12/2014, 6:00:18 AM] Athena Hollow: And yet, still more mature than the 30 somethings in GG too LOL
4162[29/12/2014, 6:00:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): The older GGers are depressing
4163[29/12/2014, 6:00:45 AM] Veerender Jubbal: People are too obsessed with me.
4164[29/12/2014, 6:01:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): because most GGers are racist as fuck
4165[29/12/2014, 6:01:09 AM] Remy: The older ones that should know better and are usually in it more out of obsession than hunger for attention
4166[29/12/2014, 6:01:20 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Holy crap. I think another Reddit forum was made about me saying games are trash.
4167[29/12/2014, 6:01:45 AM] Quinnae: https://twitter.com/MidnightRem/status/549323182750973952 This never fails to amuse me. smirks
4168[29/12/2014, 6:02:02 AM] Quinnae: Yeah, Veerender, statements like that are made to be taken out of context.
4169[29/12/2014, 6:02:27 AM] Randi Harper: gamergate's ideal world: bunch of white dudes going around shooting brown dudes while hiring prostitutes.
4170[29/12/2014, 6:02:42 AM] Randi Harper: every game should be like that, no?
4171[29/12/2014, 6:02:47 AM] Quinnae: It's why I'm very, very careful about what I say publicly and I think it's helped (aside from that one time I said it should be a priority to report Fart to Continue and was accused of "putting out a hit" on Fart because of it. That was unwise of me.)
4172[29/12/2014, 6:02:59 AM] Athena Hollow: Don't forget: then killing said prostitutes to get their money back.
4173[29/12/2014, 6:03:00 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I like Far Cry 2 because I can play as a Sikh, and shoot white people in the face!
4174[29/12/2014, 6:03:10 AM] Remy: XD
4175[29/12/2014, 6:03:12 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I can play as myself, and shoot white people in the face!
4176[29/12/2014, 6:03:13 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4177[29/12/2014, 6:03:22 AM] Randi Harper: haha
4178[29/12/2014, 6:04:02 AM] Remy: XD
4179[29/12/2014, 6:04:03 AM] Remy: That picture
4180[29/12/2014, 6:04:30 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/KiAtxt/status/549324007380484096
4181[29/12/2014, 6:04:34 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Gosh.
4182[29/12/2014, 6:04:48 AM] Veerender Jubbal: I laud the crap about Depression Quest.
4183[29/12/2014, 6:04:59 AM] Athena Hollow: KiA's dumb.
4184[29/12/2014, 6:05:03 AM] Athena Hollow: I <3 kiatxt tho
4185[29/12/2014, 6:07:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): #WINNING https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549325735375040512
4186[29/12/2014, 6:11:05 AM] Quinnae: KiA is rather dumb, yes.
4187[29/12/2014, 6:12:42 AM] Quinnae: But Veerender, as we get closer to the New Year, I strongly suggest you begin withdrawing your attention from these people.
4188[29/12/2014, 6:13:08 AM] Quinnae: I will say this, what keeps me going is remembering that no one who matters believes any of the nonsense that GG has spread or insisted about me.
4189[29/12/2014, 6:13:21 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They reach after me, but all right.
4190[29/12/2014, 6:13:38 AM] Quinnae: David Auerbach is probably the most "important" person who's insulted me in the midst of this and thinks I'm a "defective" scholar. But he's David Auerbach.
4191[29/12/2014, 6:14:21 AM] Quinnae: Beyond that, everyone who matters doesn't give GG's misapprehensions and petty bigotries the time of the day.
4192[29/12/2014, 6:15:06 AM] Quinnae: I know. They reach after me too, but sometimes you just have to slam the door in their face. They feed on the attention because they live for battle. Remember, these are people who have devoted all of their free time and energy to fighting their opponents.
4193[29/12/2014, 6:15:20 AM] Quinnae: As opposed to us, who have lives and aspirations well beyond GG.
4194[29/12/2014, 6:17:02 AM] Quinnae: Again, I know I'm not the perfect example here, but... :P
4195[29/12/2014, 6:17:08 AM] Quinnae: I've been trying
4196[29/12/2014, 6:21:03 AM] Remy: And no doubt game makers and other media creators have heard the cry for more diverse games and more complex stories
4197[29/12/2014, 6:21:44 AM] Remy: And these trolls will be left complaining that the elitist mainstream medianista didn't accept their misogynist fan fiction and make it canon :P
4198[29/12/2014, 6:24:05 AM] Randi Harper: i just want to start using #NotYourShield all the time to make gamergate angry.
4199[29/12/2014, 6:24:14 AM] Randi Harper: since you're only supposed to use that hashtag if you're a minority that supports GG.
4200[29/12/2014, 6:24:17 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4201[29/12/2014, 6:24:22 AM] Remy: Nice
4202[29/12/2014, 6:24:27 AM] Quinnae: Heh.
4203[29/12/2014, 6:24:30 AM] Athena Hollow: Anytime I see them bring up Mercedes, I mention NYS
4204[29/12/2014, 6:24:41 AM] Athena Hollow: "I am not your porn shield, assholes" LOL
4205[29/12/2014, 6:25:01 AM] Faruk Ates: Hi everyone
4206[29/12/2014, 6:25:14 AM] Remy: Although if I keep tweeting things like "Just fed toast to my rabbit, #NotYourShield" eventually someone's going to think I'm a member of GG and un-follow me
4207[29/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Quinnae: Randi, I'm curious, are you seeing anything about how much GG's tweet count is inflated by opponents using the hashtags?
4208[29/12/2014, 6:25:20 AM] Faruk Ates: my timing is perfect.
4209[29/12/2014, 6:25:23 AM] Remy: It's not my fault I've re-named my rabbit #NotYourShield
4210[29/12/2014, 6:25:30 AM] Quinnae: Hi hi, Faruk.
4211[29/12/2014, 6:25:41 AM] Faruk Ates: <Faruk arrives>  "I am not your porn shield."   Yep, that sounds about the right time for me to walk in.
4212[29/12/2014, 6:25:46 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4213[29/12/2014, 6:25:47 AM] Randi Harper: i haven't done much to track that, but based on observation alone, i don't think there's a lot of people using the hashtag repeatedly that don't already support GG
4214[29/12/2014, 6:25:52 AM] Randi Harper: just because, well, you know what it's like when you use it.
4215[29/12/2014, 6:26:00 AM] Remy: That's a joke but now I totes wanna get another rabbit and name him/her #NotYourShield
4216[29/12/2014, 6:26:06 AM] Athena Hollow: haha
4217[29/12/2014, 6:26:07 AM] Remy: I'd call her Nacho for short
4218[29/12/2014, 6:26:11 AM] Faruk Ates: Hi Katherine, Athena, Randi, Stephen, whoever else is paying attention <3
4219[29/12/2014, 6:26:20 AM] Randi Harper: the grocery store was out of eggnog
4220[29/12/2014, 6:26:24 AM] Remy: :D
4221[29/12/2014, 6:26:25 AM] Remy: D:
4222[29/12/2014, 6:26:25 AM] Athena Hollow: ^_^
4223[29/12/2014, 6:26:27 AM] Randi Harper: worst emergency
4224[29/12/2014, 6:26:28 AM] Randi Harper: halp
4225[29/12/2014, 6:26:43 AM] Remy: RANDI
4226[29/12/2014, 6:26:48 AM] Remy: My husband has had the worst holidays ever
4227[29/12/2014, 6:26:55 AM] Remy: B/C the stores nearby don't carry real egg nog
4228[29/12/2014, 6:27:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GGers are nuts: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549330611429597184
4229[29/12/2014, 6:27:08 AM] Remy: I gotta admit it was starting to affect me too
4230[29/12/2014, 6:27:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oops typo
4231[29/12/2014, 6:27:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): fixing
4232[29/12/2014, 6:27:45 AM] Remy: lol Izzy
4233[29/12/2014, 6:27:50 AM] Remy: "Cultural genocide"
4234[29/12/2014, 6:27:56 AM] Remy: Ten bucks says they're white
4235[29/12/2014, 6:28:21 AM] Remy: "Kyoto Night Stick"
4236[29/12/2014, 6:28:29 AM] Randi Harper: Stephen: right now i'm looking at recipes
4237[29/12/2014, 6:28:31 AM] Remy: That sounds like the stage name for a very violent stripper
4238[29/12/2014, 6:28:33 AM] Randi Harper: http://www.instructables.com/id/Eggnog-Recipe/
4239[29/12/2014, 6:28:44 AM] Remy: I'm picturing a male stripper but it could be a lady, pick whichever you prefer
4240[29/12/2014, 6:28:56 AM] Remy: Either way, don't mess with Kyoto Night Stick on dollar night
4241[29/12/2014, 6:29:13 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): fixed: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549331109889052672
4242[29/12/2014, 6:29:24 AM] Remy: They start playing "Black Betty" really loud and Kyoto Night Stick just kinda gets lost in the music
4243[29/12/2014, 6:30:00 AM] Randi Harper: wtf
4244[29/12/2014, 6:30:01 AM] Randi Harper: amazon
4245[29/12/2014, 6:30:02 AM] Randi Harper: Note: Available at a lower price from other sellers, potentially without free Prime shipping.
4246[29/12/2014, 6:30:04 AM] Randi Harper: potentially?
4247[29/12/2014, 6:30:07 AM] Randi Harper: HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW?
4248[29/12/2014, 6:30:10 AM] Remy: o.O?
4249[29/12/2014, 6:30:21 AM] Remy: They're being too lazy to check
4250[29/12/2014, 6:30:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Randi, send me screenshot. I'll get an answer for you tomorrow from the retail team
4251[29/12/2014, 6:30:27 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4252[29/12/2014, 6:30:33 AM] Remy: That would require, like, at least one person to look, and another to code
4253[29/12/2014, 6:30:34 AM] Randi Harper: http://www.amazon.com/Microplane-40001-Stainless-Steel-Zester/dp/B00004S7V7
4254[29/12/2014, 6:30:37 AM] Randi Harper: i'm not actually that curious :P
4255[29/12/2014, 6:30:42 AM] Randi Harper: but i thought the wording was hilarious
4256[29/12/2014, 6:30:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
4257[29/12/2014, 6:32:32 AM] Remy: I'm tweaking my Dragon Age world import
4258[29/12/2014, 6:33:02 AM] Remy: I never had any of my characters do the dark deed with Morrigan but now I wanna see what our baby would look like.
4259[29/12/2014, 6:38:29 AM] SF: I just woke up and I'm so dizzy it's difficult to sit up. I would like to back up my brain and move to a different one with fewer structural issues.
4260[29/12/2014, 6:39:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Whoa. What if we could do that in the future? o.o
4261[29/12/2014, 6:39:39 AM] Faruk Ates: <cue Dollhouse theme>
4262[29/12/2014, 6:39:48 AM] SF: Randi: I recommend Earth's Own brands if they're out of regular. They're vegan ones but I prefer them for the spice mix/lightness.
4263[29/12/2014, 6:39:52 AM] Faruk Ates: la la la laaa la, la la la laa la…
4264[29/12/2014, 6:42:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hehehehe: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549334274931822593
4265[29/12/2014, 6:42:38 AM] SF: Burger King doesn't think Dracula is about emotional and sexual abuse of women hahaha https://twitter.com/DiehardDante/status/549333757904568320
4266[29/12/2014, 6:48:43 AM] Athena Hollow: Ok, Kluwe/Juicebro thing is in like an hour, right?
4267[29/12/2014, 6:48:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah
4268[29/12/2014, 6:48:58 AM] Athena Hollow: kk. I'm gonna go play deus ex till then lol
4269[29/12/2014, 6:49:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok. cya.
4270[29/12/2014, 6:49:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hopefully JuiceBro doesn't bail
4271[29/12/2014, 6:49:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): we'll see
4272[29/12/2014, 6:49:30 AM] Athena Hollow: I will make tons of "couldn't keep up under pressure" jokes if he does.
4273[29/12/2014, 6:49:57 AM] SF: It's supposed to be in an hour but I somehow suspect Juice will come early.
4274[29/12/2014, 6:50:03 AM] Athena Hollow: hah!
4275[29/12/2014, 6:50:07 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4276[29/12/2014, 6:50:58 AM] Faruk Ates: hah
4277[29/12/2014, 6:51:20 AM] Faruk Ates: New Skype product for 2015: Super Serum
4278[29/12/2014, 6:51:37 AM] Faruk Ates: (apologies for the grossness of that terrible joke)
4279[29/12/2014, 6:51:49 AM] Faruk Ates: (I know that any reference to Skype is disgusting.)
4280[29/12/2014, 6:51:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): We asked Chris to have a water bottle with the label as "Super Serum"
4281[29/12/2014, 6:51:59 AM] Athena Hollow: XD
4282[29/12/2014, 6:52:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): That's why I want it to happen. just for that
4283[29/12/2014, 6:55:41 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL: https://twitter.com/kel_matarie/status/549337757433470977
4284[29/12/2014, 6:58:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Is this GGer for real? They can't pick up sarcasm at all: https://twitter.com/HydrophobicFish/status/549338007648886784
4285[29/12/2014, 7:02:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hehe: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549339558731472896
4286[29/12/2014, 7:04:42 AM] David Gallant: Why are these gaters so damn bad at grammar?
4287[29/12/2014, 7:04:58 AM] Faruk Ates: because they're teenagers
4288[29/12/2014, 7:05:15 AM] Faruk Ates: Many of them are, at least.
4289[29/12/2014, 7:05:16 AM] David Gallant: I was great with grammar as a teenager. Does not compute.
4290[29/12/2014, 7:05:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): US education system is horribly broken? :(
4291[29/12/2014, 7:05:38 AM] Faruk Ates: I was, too, but I know many of my peers at the time didn't care so much other than for language classes' tests.
4292[29/12/2014, 7:06:08 AM] Faruk Ates: SMS-speak has additionally made grammar less relevant for people in leisure text conversations.
4293[29/12/2014, 7:06:25 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/KiAtxt/status/549339102781267969 lol
4294[29/12/2014, 7:06:30 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So while I catch up on backscrollery- Did anyone mail gratipay about funding child porn, and have you heard back?
4295[29/12/2014, 7:06:35 AM] Faruk Ates: These are people who haven't had to write résumés and important documents for jobs, etc.
4296[29/12/2014, 7:06:45 AM] Athena Hollow: I did and I have not, sgg
4297[29/12/2014, 7:07:00 AM] Faruk Ates: Note the handful of actual adults among them; they all spell like independent, capable people.
4298[29/12/2014, 7:07:10 AM] Athena Hollow: But I honestly don't expect any response at all until next week cuz of the weekened and upcoming holiday.
4299[29/12/2014, 7:17:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: back
4300[29/12/2014, 7:17:59 AM] Chris Kluwe: getting ready for debate time
4301[29/12/2014, 7:18:00 AM] Faruk Ates: wb
4302[29/12/2014, 7:18:03 AM] Faruk Ates: good luck
4303[29/12/2014, 7:18:11 AM] Faruk Ates: do you have your Man Tears mug?
4304[29/12/2014, 7:18:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: making it right now
4305[29/12/2014, 7:18:31 AM] Chris Kluwe: Gator Tears and Super Serum
4306[29/12/2014, 7:18:40 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4307[29/12/2014, 7:21:29 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Hmm
4308[29/12/2014, 7:22:38 AM] David Gallant: Debate?
4309[29/12/2014, 7:22:49 AM] Randi Harper: is he gonna show?
4310[29/12/2014, 7:23:46 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Who can spot the key difference between this- http://www.patreon.com/hachi_the_cat?u=162165 And these- http://www.patreon.com/thesarkeesianeffect and http://www.patreon.com/MundaneMatt
4311[29/12/2014, 7:24:26 AM] Chris Kluwe: no idea randi
4312[29/12/2014, 7:24:44 AM] Faruk Ates: is this on Skype or Hangouts?
4313[29/12/2014, 7:24:48 AM] Chris Kluwe: skype
4314[29/12/2014, 7:24:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: gonna stream it through obs
4315[29/12/2014, 7:24:54 AM] Chris Kluwe: to my twitch feed
4316[29/12/2014, 7:25:14 AM] Athena Hollow: sgg "This Patreon page is currently under review by staff per Patreon's community guidelines:"?
4317[29/12/2014, 7:25:59 AM] Faruk Ates: oh interesting
4318[29/12/2014, 7:26:09 AM] Faruk Ates: Sarkeesian Effect lost about $200 of monthly contributions
4319[29/12/2014, 7:27:15 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. they're making nearly as much in a month as I do in a year for doing literally nothing.
4320[29/12/2014, 7:27:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: WTF are those not all "under review?"
4321[29/12/2014, 7:28:10 AM] Chris Kluwe: can anyone give me a videocall on skype real quick so i can test this?
4322[29/12/2014, 7:28:12 AM] Faruk Ates: TSE isn't hate speech necessarily
4323[29/12/2014, 7:28:14 AM] Faruk Ates: Chris: sure
4324[29/12/2014, 7:28:52 AM] Faruk Ates: well so that's working :)
4325[29/12/2014, 7:29:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: oh, i forgot to show you the cup
4326[29/12/2014, 7:29:07 AM] Chris Kluwe: the cup is awesome
4327[29/12/2014, 7:29:09 AM] Faruk Ates: Chris: do you like how I was STEALTH PERSON?
4328[29/12/2014, 7:29:14 AM] Chris Kluwe: haha yeah
4329[29/12/2014, 7:29:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4330[29/12/2014, 7:29:24 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think Faruk just fangirled
4331[29/12/2014, 7:29:24 AM] Faruk Ates: oh! I wanna see the cup. Can I see the cup?
4332[29/12/2014, 7:29:26 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): just saying
4333[29/12/2014, 7:29:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): :P
4334[29/12/2014, 7:30:11 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: it isn't hate speech because they aren't actually producing anything. It's totally defrauding the whole system though, and its the project of a well-established white supremist
4335[29/12/2014, 7:30:54 AM] Faruk Ates: yes, unfortunately those claims are hard to defend in case TSE bring a lawsuit against Patreon for pulling them
4336[29/12/2014, 7:31:01 AM] Faruk Ates: thing is, Patreon will likely _win_ that lawsuit
4337[29/12/2014, 7:31:02 AM] Faruk Ates: BUT
4338[29/12/2014, 7:31:20 AM] Faruk Ates: they risk alienating their target demographics of people with the bad press
4339[29/12/2014, 7:31:31 AM] Athena Hollow: Every fucking website needs the "If we don't like you, we'll pull your account" clause in their TOS
4340[29/12/2014, 7:31:39 AM] Athena Hollow: it's a private company
4341[29/12/2014, 7:31:41 AM] Remy: They already basically do
4342[29/12/2014, 7:31:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wait, you could sue Patreon for them kicking you out? Is Patreon a public company?
4343[29/12/2014, 7:31:45 AM] Faruk Ates: It sort of technically does, generally
4344[29/12/2014, 7:31:46 AM] Athena Hollow: I can kick a dude out of a restaurant for being a douchebag.
4345[29/12/2014, 7:32:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: they've had that clause in their TOS forever
4346[29/12/2014, 7:32:06 AM] Remy: Any "free speech" case against Patreon will die
4347[29/12/2014, 7:32:18 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is why I have yet to retract my big fire and brimstone screed against them
4348[29/12/2014, 7:32:26 AM] Remy: You can't force them to accept to fund you as long as you codify whatever you do as expression
4349[29/12/2014, 7:32:28 AM] Faruk Ates: Izzy: in America, being kicked off a service for nothing you did wrong is hard to defend for the company
4350[29/12/2014, 7:32:34 AM] Athena Hollow: ugh. techbro free speech & capitalism -_-
4351[29/12/2014, 7:32:54 AM] Remy: yup
4352[29/12/2014, 7:34:58 AM] Faruk Ates: THE CUP IS REAL, PEOPLE
4353[29/12/2014, 7:35:26 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4354[29/12/2014, 7:35:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris, has Mike given you any confirmation that he will be participating in less than 30 min?
4355[29/12/2014, 7:36:02 AM] Chris Kluwe: NOPE
4356[29/12/2014, 7:36:10 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Oh boy
4357[29/12/2014, 7:36:24 AM] Chris Kluwe: and oooooooh how i hope he wimps out
4358[29/12/2014, 7:36:46 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): If he wimps out, you need to take a picture with the cup and post to twitter
4359[29/12/2014, 7:36:50 AM] Chris Kluwe: i'm sure he'll have some sort of excuse
4360[29/12/2014, 7:36:58 AM] Chris Kluwe: "my feefees were acting up"
4361[29/12/2014, 7:37:04 AM] Chris Kluwe: "too many SJWs around"
4362[29/12/2014, 7:37:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: "the forum wasn't alpha enough"
4363[29/12/2014, 7:37:20 AM] Faruk Ates: "my balls shrank too much and I had to go see a doctor"
4364[29/12/2014, 7:37:34 AM] Faruk Ates: too real?
4365[29/12/2014, 7:37:42 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): They hit... 26% tops... :(
4366[29/12/2014, 7:38:03 AM] Faruk Ates: Perhaps Mike C. just… *puts on sunglasses* …ran out of juice.
4367[29/12/2014, 7:38:07 AM] Faruk Ates: YEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH
4368[29/12/2014, 7:38:07 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4369[29/12/2014, 7:38:17 AM] Remy: XDS
4370[29/12/2014, 7:38:43 AM] Remy: You win the entire day Faruk
4371[29/12/2014, 7:39:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Stephen, is that an XD face with the arms waving around?
4372
4373XDS--<
4374[29/12/2014, 7:40:06 AM] Chris Kluwe: YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
4375[29/12/2014, 7:40:25 AM] Faruk Ates: has he shown up?
4376[29/12/2014, 7:40:43 AM] Chris Kluwe: he's "away" on skype right now
4377[29/12/2014, 7:40:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: haven't sent a message yet
4378[29/12/2014, 7:41:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: just sent "Ready in 20 minutes?"
4379[29/12/2014, 7:41:23 AM] Athena Hollow: hahahha he ended up blocking me on twitter as well
4380[29/12/2014, 7:42:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://www.twitch.tv/loate <--- Chris will stream here if JuiceBro shows up
4381[29/12/2014, 7:42:30 AM] Athena Hollow: all these dudebros and their censorship of me. I just want to yell at that them that they are rape enabling fuckwads that can't ever get laid! gosh.
4382[29/12/2014, 7:47:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GOSH
4383[29/12/2014, 7:47:15 AM] Faruk Ates: Gosh.
4384[29/12/2014, 7:47:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ugh, this Seahawks Vs Ram game is tied 6-6
4385[29/12/2014, 7:47:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): in the last quarter
4386[29/12/2014, 7:47:33 AM] Chris Kluwe: A REAL BARNBURNER
4387[29/12/2014, 7:47:57 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I live in the Seattle area, so of course I'm rooting for the Seahawks.
4388[29/12/2014, 7:48:06 AM] Peter Coffin: I have been monitoring this /cow/ thread about me for quite a while now and it is still being posted to somehow. If you want to see the most serious mental gymnastics. https://archive.today/E2cW7 does anyone have some idea what I could do about this other than like write a fiction novel using their ideas? I'm getting tired of it and their insane digging for literally ANYTHING they can find on this issue
4389[29/12/2014, 7:48:55 AM] Peter Coffin: Like they have a fever, and the only prescription is proof I don't have a wife and kid
4390[29/12/2014, 7:48:57 AM] Faruk Ates: Sorry to hear that Peter
4391[29/12/2014, 7:49:29 AM] Peter Coffin: I haven't linked it in here because I figured they'd eventually stop
4392[29/12/2014, 7:49:49 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wow. that's so obsessive/creepy
4393[29/12/2014, 7:50:16 AM] Faruk Ates: They probably won't stop until something else catches their attention and is more fun
4394[29/12/2014, 7:50:26 AM] Faruk Ates: I don't know how you could actively take the fun out of it
4395[29/12/2014, 7:50:36 AM] Randi Harper: kek https://twitter.com/randi_ebooks/status/549298742226980864
4396[29/12/2014, 7:50:42 AM] Faruk Ates: But that'd be what I would try, probably
4397[29/12/2014, 7:51:01 AM] Peter Coffin: Thing is they haven't gotten New info for a month now and are still at it
4398[29/12/2014, 7:51:26 AM] Peter Coffin: That's what's bugging me. I checked in today with it to see if it was finally dead
4399[29/12/2014, 7:51:40 AM] Chris Kluwe: hell hath no fury like a neckbeard scorned
4400[29/12/2014, 7:52:17 AM] Peter Coffin: Top kek randi
4401[29/12/2014, 7:53:08 AM] Randi Harper: who is chuckcjohnson and why is he so mad at chipotle did they burn his burrito?
4402[29/12/2014, 7:53:22 AM] Remy: lol
4403[29/12/2014, 7:53:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Was it a Chipotle that he pooped in?
4404[29/12/2014, 7:53:33 AM] Remy: They made him shit on the floor in college
4405[29/12/2014, 7:53:39 AM] Peter Coffin: Must have made him shit the floor
4406[29/12/2014, 7:53:40 AM] Remy: That's why he mad
4407[29/12/2014, 7:53:44 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4408[29/12/2014, 7:54:03 AM] Randi Harper: https://twitter.com/MaryForbes14/status/549313032602800128
4409[29/12/2014, 7:54:16 AM] Randi Harper: I am grievously offended by their capitalization.
4410[29/12/2014, 7:55:01 AM] Peter Coffin: Are you shitting me
4411[29/12/2014, 7:55:08 AM] Remy: lol
4412[29/12/2014, 7:55:09 AM] Faruk Ates: has JB said anything yet, Chris?
4413[29/12/2014, 7:55:10 AM] Peter Coffin: He's mad at that?
4414[29/12/2014, 7:55:13 AM] Chris Kluwe: Chuck Johnson (allegedly) (pooped the floor) (of his dorm) (and people hate him)
4415[29/12/2014, 7:55:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: NOPE
4416[29/12/2014, 7:55:24 AM] Remy: (sheep)
4417[29/12/2014, 7:55:43 AM] Remy: Here we have a ChuckcJohnson in its natural pooping habitat
4418[29/12/2014, 7:56:50 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): WTF, they capitalized Every Word
4419[29/12/2014, 7:56:51 AM] Tesseract: back
4420[29/12/2014, 7:56:52 AM] Tesseract: lmao https://twitter.com/iD4RO/status/549348354707447808
4421[29/12/2014, 7:57:12 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL
4422[29/12/2014, 7:57:19 AM] Chris Kluwe: so looks like Cernovich may think our debate is Monday, since he put "Monday the 28th" in his tweet
4423[29/12/2014, 7:57:29 AM] Chris Kluwe: except for the 28th being today, but whateves i guess
4424[29/12/2014, 7:57:32 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4425[29/12/2014, 7:57:34 AM] Tesseract: pff
4426[29/12/2014, 7:57:35 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4427[29/12/2014, 7:57:36 AM] Tesseract: amazing
4428[29/12/2014, 7:57:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4429[29/12/2014, 7:57:38 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4430[29/12/2014, 7:57:40 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4431[29/12/2014, 7:57:41 AM] Remy: Okay so when you bring your "Super Serum" mug for Mike
4432[29/12/2014, 7:57:46 AM] Remy: Maybe bring him a calendar
4433[29/12/2014, 7:58:02 AM] Remy: I mean I thought they put that shit on your phones nowadays but  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4434[29/12/2014, 7:58:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: i put it on mine!
4435[29/12/2014, 7:58:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: had a reminder and everything
4436[29/12/2014, 7:59:39 AM] Peter Coffin: Monday Jancember 96th
4437[29/12/2014, 7:59:43 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Damn. Will you be able to do it tomorrow?
4438[29/12/2014, 7:59:46 AM] Chris Kluwe: yup
4439[29/12/2014, 7:59:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: kids are on break
4440[29/12/2014, 7:59:52 AM] Chris Kluwe: I'M HOME ALL DAY
4441[29/12/2014, 7:59:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah, that's good.
4442[29/12/2014, 8:00:00 AM] Chris Kluwe: DANCE FOR ME, JUICE MAN
4443[29/12/2014, 8:00:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: DANCE FOR ME
4444[29/12/2014, 8:00:29 AM] Peter Coffin: wonder if he fucked it up on purpose for playable deniability
4445[29/12/2014, 8:00:34 AM] Remy: (dance)
4446[29/12/2014, 8:00:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Plausable
4447[29/12/2014, 8:01:00 AM] Peter Coffin: "Oh Chris didn't show"
4448[29/12/2014, 8:01:02 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I GAVE YOU A FAKE DATE SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO SHOW UP!
4449[29/12/2014, 8:01:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): MWA HA HA
4450[29/12/2014, 8:01:09 AM] Remy: lol
4451[29/12/2014, 8:01:17 AM] Chris Kluwe: "I wager $texas"
4452[29/12/2014, 8:01:33 AM] Remy: I'll bet you a million doll hairs
4453[29/12/2014, 8:01:38 AM] Peter Coffin: Lol
4454[29/12/2014, 8:01:44 AM] Chris Kluwe: I SAID DOLL HAIRS LOLOLOL WHAT A LOSER
4455[29/12/2014, 8:01:49 AM] Peter Coffin: Spongebob
4456[29/12/2014, 8:01:50 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Remember: No hitting below the belt. His testicles have suffered enough as it is
4457[29/12/2014, 8:01:58 AM] Remy: XD
4458[29/12/2014, 8:02:03 AM] Remy: have they tho
4459[29/12/2014, 8:02:06 AM] Alex Lifschitz: (but seriously let's not make fun of his testicles or anything)
4460[29/12/2014, 8:02:13 AM] Alex Lifschitz: He gives us way too much to resort to that
4461[29/12/2014, 8:02:22 AM] Remy: ^ truer words
4462[29/12/2014, 8:02:34 AM] Peter Coffin: You could say he's... testing us?
4463[29/12/2014, 8:02:41 AM] Remy: XD
4464[29/12/2014, 8:03:22 AM] Chris Kluwe: gonna stream some Hearthstone
4465[29/12/2014, 8:03:55 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Is there a Ghazi thread advertising the showdown?
4466[29/12/2014, 8:03:59 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Wanna read the comments
4467[29/12/2014, 8:04:13 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): http://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/2qnp8k/debate_with_cernovich_in_30_minutes_4pm_pacific/
4468[29/12/2014, 8:04:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Chris posted it
4469[29/12/2014, 8:05:26 AM] Remy: lol "Misandering down the lane"
4470[29/12/2014, 8:05:30 AM] Remy: I'm so jealous I didn't think of that
4471[29/12/2014, 8:06:10 AM] Remy: I bet you if I had gotten introduced to reddit a few years ago I probably would have loved it as much as Twitter
4472[29/12/2014, 8:06:30 AM] Alex Lifschitz: I bet Zoe $5 Cernovich wouldn't show
4473[29/12/2014, 8:06:53 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also she had her first taste of unadulterated jersey cow milk today and it was *adorable*
4474[29/12/2014, 8:08:15 AM] Remy: I prefer my milk cows to be pumped full of hormones by the loving mega-conglomerates that know what's best for me
4475[29/12/2014, 8:08:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Haha
4476[29/12/2014, 8:15:04 AM] SF: https://twitter.com/iD4RO/status/549348354707447808
4477[29/12/2014, 8:15:45 AM] Tesseract: if his mentions weren't overwhelmed with people demanding he apologize for shitting the floor I will be disappointed
4478[29/12/2014, 8:18:14 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4479[29/12/2014, 8:21:03 AM] Quinnae: What's going on now?
4480[29/12/2014, 8:21:32 AM] Tesseract: chuck c johnson remains a floor shitter
4481[29/12/2014, 8:21:40 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4482[29/12/2014, 8:21:46 AM] Randi Harper: i still have no idea who that is.
4483[29/12/2014, 8:21:53 AM] Chris Kluwe: he poops on floors
4484[29/12/2014, 8:21:58 AM] Tesseract: some fucker who tried to out a rape victim
4485[29/12/2014, 8:22:04 AM] Tesseract: feel no sympathy for him
4486[29/12/2014, 8:22:12 AM] Athena Hollow: And he's done just as shit stuff before that too
4487[29/12/2014, 8:22:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Katherine, Mike C did not show up for his debate with Kluwe. It appears that he got Sunday and Monday mixed up. Kluwe will try to have the debate tomorrow at 4pm Pacific
4488[29/12/2014, 8:22:22 AM] Athena Hollow: He's a shitty shitty fuckwad
4489[29/12/2014, 8:22:31 AM] Peter Coffin: He's a journalist who's main claim to fame seems to be for shitting
4490[29/12/2014, 8:22:34 AM] Tesseract: did mike c shit the floor... or /is/ mike c the shit on the floor?
4491[29/12/2014, 8:22:36 AM] Peter Coffin: Floor
4492[29/12/2014, 8:22:37 AM] Athena Hollow: "journalist"
4493[29/12/2014, 8:22:52 AM] Tesseract: err
4494[29/12/2014, 8:22:53 AM] Tesseract: chuck c
4495[29/12/2014, 8:22:58 AM] Athena Hollow: LMAO
4496[29/12/2014, 8:23:05 AM] Peter Coffin: Floor Shitter
4497[29/12/2014, 8:23:08 AM] Tesseract: both are floor shit though
4498[29/12/2014, 8:23:15 AM] Athena Hollow: I think you just created some slash there tess
4499[29/12/2014, 8:23:17 AM] Athena Hollow: shudders
4500[29/12/2014, 8:23:23 AM] Rob: hi
4501[29/12/2014, 8:23:28 AM] Athena Hollow: hey rob
4502[29/12/2014, 8:24:01 AM] Rob: <3
4503[29/12/2014, 8:24:59 AM] Tesseract: mike cernovich raw dogs chuck c johnson, a fanfic by tesseract
4504[29/12/2014, 8:25:08 AM] Athena Hollow: welp
4505[29/12/2014, 8:25:12 AM] Chris Kluwe: barf
4506[29/12/2014, 8:25:13 AM] Athena Hollow: i think i just threw up
4507[29/12/2014, 8:25:17 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): x_x
4508[29/12/2014, 8:25:24 AM] Randi Harper: SOMEONE IN GENERAL CHAT JUST SAID AYY LMAO
4509[29/12/2014, 8:25:25 AM] Randi Harper: time to find my rogue
4510[29/12/2014, 8:25:33 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4511[29/12/2014, 8:25:36 AM] Tesseract: END THEM
4512[29/12/2014, 8:25:46 AM] Randi Harper: there are reasons why i have rogues on each faction. >.>
4513[29/12/2014, 8:26:59 AM] Quinnae: Heh
4514[29/12/2014, 8:27:01 AM] Remy: XD
4515[29/12/2014, 8:27:16 AM] Peter Coffin: Did Twitter just take a shit for anyone else
4516[29/12/2014, 8:27:31 AM] Remy: I'm assuming the AYYY LMAO bit is basically the internet version of shouting "Git R Done" in public
4517[29/12/2014, 8:27:49 AM] Quinnae: Not for me, Peter.
4518[29/12/2014, 8:27:53 AM] Rob: farming knothide leather. this is the most boring.
4519[29/12/2014, 8:27:53 AM] Athena Hollow: if by that you mean "Will make me stab you in the face" then yes.
4520[29/12/2014, 8:28:09 AM] Quinnae: And yeah, I'd really like to know where that nonsense comes from, Stephen.
4521[29/12/2014, 8:28:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Peter, I'm seeing a lot of people saying that Twitter won't let them log in or that the timestamps are messed up
4522[29/12/2014, 8:28:26 AM] Peter Coffin: Thank fuck
4523[29/12/2014, 8:28:44 AM] Peter Coffin: I was headed for hack panic
4524[29/12/2014, 8:28:46 AM] Athena Hollow: https://twitter.com/Spacekatgal/status/549361067978403840
4525[29/12/2014, 8:28:51 AM] Athena Hollow: /dies/
4526[29/12/2014, 8:30:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Need help please.
4527[29/12/2014, 8:31:09 AM] Veerender Jubbal: What is this? https://twitter.com/ThatSabineGirl/status/549345784161132544
4528[29/12/2014, 8:31:11 AM] Veerender Jubbal: https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/549360885756878848
4529[29/12/2014, 8:31:13 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Sorry.
4530[29/12/2014, 8:31:17 AM] Veerender Jubbal: That second link.
4531[29/12/2014, 8:31:32 AM] Athena Hollow: abort & ignore.
4532[29/12/2014, 8:31:38 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Who are they?
4533[29/12/2014, 8:31:47 AM] Athena Hollow: The ones that libeled the SHIT out of zoe
4534[29/12/2014, 8:31:57 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Oh.
4535[29/12/2014, 8:31:59 AM] Athena Hollow: claimed she doxed a trans girl
4536[29/12/2014, 8:32:01 AM] Athena Hollow: when she fucking didnt
4537[29/12/2014, 8:32:15 AM] Athena Hollow: They're shit.
4538[29/12/2014, 8:32:22 AM] Quinnae: The Fine Young Capitalists, the "charity" that GG likes to claim absolves them of misogyny.
4539[29/12/2014, 8:32:34 AM] Athena Hollow: "We want you to give us ideas so we can profit off of you, without you getting any good out of it!"
4540[29/12/2014, 8:33:01 AM] Quinnae: As to what they're doing with that tweet, which appears to be one in a series, they're trying to bait people by offering to engage with them on diversity issues (which they have neither the interest nor the resources to follow through on).
4541[29/12/2014, 8:33:17 AM] Quinnae: When you ignore them, as you should, they will turn around and claim that you're not really serious about diversity.
4542[29/12/2014, 8:33:20 AM] Athena Hollow: they want to idea mine and sell it to other people, probably.
4543[29/12/2014, 8:33:32 AM] Quinnae: In other words, they're being children, which is their stock and trade.
4544[29/12/2014, 8:33:36 AM] Athena Hollow: yup
4545[29/12/2014, 8:33:38 AM] Veerender Jubbal: nods
4546[29/12/2014, 8:33:47 AM] Peter Coffin: Aye
4547[29/12/2014, 8:33:48 AM] Athena Hollow: But! They are canadian, so if they start shit, you can easily sue :)
4548[29/12/2014, 8:33:54 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Damn.
4549[29/12/2014, 8:33:56 AM] Athena Hollow: way easier than someone from the states at least.
4550[29/12/2014, 8:34:16 AM] Athena Hollow: But yeah, they are shitty & baiting :-/
4551[29/12/2014, 8:34:34 AM] Chris Kluwe: JUST ROCKIN SOME HEARTHSTONE AND SKRILLEX HERE DON'T MIND ME
4552[29/12/2014, 8:34:41 AM] Chris Kluwe: WUB WUB
4553[29/12/2014, 8:34:52 AM] Athena Hollow: i would be playing deus ex right now but demon spawn is fighting sleep -_-
4554[29/12/2014, 8:35:15 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yes. Avoid them, Veerender. Not good news
4555[29/12/2014, 8:35:47 AM] Veerender Jubbal: OKay.
4556[29/12/2014, 8:35:55 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Should I tweet at them or reply?
4557[29/12/2014, 8:35:59 AM] Athena Hollow: Not at all.
4558[29/12/2014, 8:35:59 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They followed me?
4559[29/12/2014, 8:36:02 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Okay.
4560[29/12/2014, 8:36:06 AM] Athena Hollow: I'd just ignore/mute and or block.
4561[29/12/2014, 8:36:40 AM] Athena Hollow: They have the ability to bring the hate mob down further on you. Avoid at all costs :-/
4562[29/12/2014, 8:36:58 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yeah--I do not need more on top of what I get.
4563[29/12/2014, 8:38:22 AM] Remy: Oh wow
4564[29/12/2014, 8:38:30 AM] Remy: That group is trying to target you?
4565[29/12/2014, 8:38:38 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yeah, yo!
4566[29/12/2014, 8:38:39 AM] Remy: I promise you, Veerender, whatever they offer, they are trying to target you.
4567[29/12/2014, 8:38:41 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Popular!
4568[29/12/2014, 8:38:49 AM] Athena Hollow: They are gaslighting assbags.
4569[29/12/2014, 8:38:52 AM] Athena Hollow: To put it nicely.
4570[29/12/2014, 8:39:01 AM] Charloppe: anita and carolyn petit are doing a stream together
4571[29/12/2014, 8:39:18 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They are super cool!
4572[29/12/2014, 8:39:29 AM] Charloppe: http://www.twitch.tv/femfreq
4573[29/12/2014, 8:44:42 AM] Rob: So did juice bro show
4574[29/12/2014, 8:45:03 AM] Athena Hollow: Of course not! He made the appt for a year in the future when December 28 falls on a monday
4575[29/12/2014, 8:45:04 AM] Athena Hollow: LOL
4576[29/12/2014, 8:45:33 AM] Athena Hollow: So Chris said he'd reschedule for tomorrow because the kids are out of town anyways xD
4577[29/12/2014, 8:47:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: People need to quit calling TFYC a "group." It's just one creepy dude named Matt playing pretend company.
4578[29/12/2014, 8:47:27 AM] Rob: :D
4579[29/12/2014, 8:47:28 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Like RogueStar and his "Mercenary Gamez"
4580[29/12/2014, 8:47:40 AM] Rob: Excuse me. It's a party of one.
4581[29/12/2014, 8:47:42 AM] Athena Hollow: oh wow I didn't realize that.
4582[29/12/2014, 8:47:45 AM] Rob: OOOOOOOONE IS THE LONEEEELIEST NUMBER
4583[29/12/2014, 8:47:50 AM] Athena Hollow: I assumed it was at LEAST two people lol
4584[29/12/2014, 8:48:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: If anyone else worked with him, they'd have yanked the keyboard out of his hands and beat him over the head with it a LONG time ago
4585[29/12/2014, 8:48:10 AM] Athena Hollow: lol
4586[29/12/2014, 8:48:16 AM] Athena Hollow: Not necessarily. See: Brad Wardell
4587[29/12/2014, 8:48:19 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Oh, he's not alone.
4588[29/12/2014, 8:48:43 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: He claims his Girlfriend Who Lives In Canada is also part of the company, but can't ever talk to anyone because she's in a wheelchair.
4589[29/12/2014, 8:48:44 AM] Alex Lifschitz: TFYC is run by one guy, Matt. Matt also happens to be the EP of Autobotika, the devs they're "hiring" to make the game.
4590[29/12/2014, 8:48:52 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: well yeah
4591[29/12/2014, 8:48:59 AM] Alex Lifschitz: The "feminist charity" is just sourcing their own paycheck.
4592[29/12/2014, 8:49:03 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: but he makes it very very clear that none of them are part of TFYC
4593[29/12/2014, 8:49:18 AM] Athena Hollow: Which is so fucking scummy. Just do what non-scummy people do and run a KS for your goddamn games.
4594[29/12/2014, 8:49:31 AM] Athena Hollow: If it floats, awesome; if not, sorry. This charity shit pisses me off :-/
4595[29/12/2014, 8:49:34 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: which is a totally separate company that just works for/with this other company he works for (but is never paid this is all totally legit!)
4596[29/12/2014, 8:49:38 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Really, everything can be summed up in Zoe's tumblr post about them.
4597[29/12/2014, 8:49:52 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yeah pretty much
4598[29/12/2014, 8:49:56 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Also, they never billed themselves as a charity, despite GG's insistence.
4599[29/12/2014, 8:50:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: except occassionally when he does
4600[29/12/2014, 8:50:10 AM] Athena Hollow: Well until now.
4601[29/12/2014, 8:50:19 AM] Athena Hollow: And this 'we're running the charity for the porn show' thing
4602[29/12/2014, 8:50:21 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Like, whenever a gater says "we raised $70,000 for charity," every word in that sentence is a lie.
4603[29/12/2014, 8:50:45 AM] Alex Lifschitz: GG didn't raise it, it wasn't $70,000, and they're not a charity.
4604[29/12/2014, 8:50:52 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: yup
4605[29/12/2014, 8:51:19 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Curious to see if knifehorse digs anything further up re: the fraudulent nature of the contest.
4606[29/12/2014, 8:51:22 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Dude really does need to be sued into a crater sometime
4607[29/12/2014, 8:51:32 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: also why has nobody invited him in here?
4608[29/12/2014, 8:51:37 AM] Alex Lifschitz: We also know they faked their credentials in game development.
4609[29/12/2014, 8:51:52 AM] Alex Lifschitz: Dunno. If you wanna invite him, be my guest. I don't have his skype.
4610[29/12/2014, 9:17:23 AM] Randi Harper: i dunno what's up with this guy, but zoe, since GG went after your patreon: https://twitter.com/bobbyo1967/status/549373332643381248
4611[29/12/2014, 9:24:50 AM] Tesseract: haha funfact they had a list of patreons they wanted to go after and things to report to get them pulled and yours was just "we've got nothing but I KNOW SHE DID SOMETHING"
4612[29/12/2014, 9:25:24 AM] Quinnae: Also, if any of you are interested: http://quinnae.com/2014/12/28/state-of-the-corn-my-2014-in-review/ Here's a broad sample of my writing!
4613[29/12/2014, 9:28:55 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Belated because I was eating but on the TFYC contest front- the voting page (which is still theoretically live) doesn't seem to hook to an actual database, reject old IPs, register anything, etc. and the winner's actual name doesn't match the one on the winning pitch.
4614[29/12/2014, 9:33:00 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Bobby Oliveira is that dude that sent threats to CH Sommers
4615[29/12/2014, 9:33:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I would not enage him
4616[29/12/2014, 9:35:03 AM] Chris Kluwe: cerno got back to me, we're on for 4 tomorrow
4617[29/12/2014, 9:35:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh, nice!
4618[29/12/2014, 9:35:35 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): looking forward to it
4619[29/12/2014, 9:48:58 AM] Quinnae: Best of luck with the debate. :)
4620[29/12/2014, 9:49:03 AM] Tesseract: http://www.reddit.com/comments/2q6q8k/not_sure_what_all_the_fuss_is_surrounding/?sort=top did they buy an ad on a subreddit that wasn't ghazi
4621[29/12/2014, 9:50:39 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Hmm
4622[29/12/2014, 9:53:05 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, these 3 cat bots that show up when you have "fish oil" in your tweets: https://twitter.com/iglvzx/status/549357861671669761
4623[29/12/2014, 9:54:49 AM] Chris Kluwe: i can't wait for this thing tomorrow
4624[29/12/2014, 9:54:51 AM] Chris Kluwe: CANNOT WAIT
4625[29/12/2014, 9:54:57 AM] Tesseract: end him
4626[29/12/2014, 9:55:01 AM] Chris Kluwe: anyways,off to cook dinner for the children
4627[29/12/2014, 9:55:08 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ok, see you later!
4628[29/12/2014, 9:55:08 AM] Chris Kluwe: because apparently CPS doesn't like it when children starve
4629[29/12/2014, 9:55:09 AM] Tesseract: oh right I should get back to combing his twitter
4630[29/12/2014, 9:55:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ha
4631[29/12/2014, 9:55:45 AM] Tesseract: next up: her holiness, saint sarkeesian
4632[29/12/2014, 9:55:50 AM] Tesseract: will probably return little to nothing
4633[29/12/2014, 9:56:22 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): You are going to comb through Anita's tweets? Or Mike's tweets to Anita?
4634[29/12/2014, 9:56:27 AM] Tesseract: mike's
4635[29/12/2014, 9:56:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): ah
4636[29/12/2014, 9:56:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I see
4637[29/12/2014, 9:57:02 AM] Tesseract: I just use these search terms for going through people's tweets
4638[29/12/2014, 9:57:03 AM] Tesseract: bitch bitches cunt cunts whore whores nigger niggers fag fags faggot faggots tranny trannies jew jews nazi nazis rape
4639zoe quinn thequinnspiracy literally lw lw1 chelsea van valkenburg
4640femfreq anita sarkeesian lw2
4641lw2 brianna wu spacekatgal deceitfulwu john walker flynt lwu lw3
4642freebsdgirl randi harper blue
4643leigh alexander leighalexander
4644srh sarah butts srhbutts
4645devi ever deviever grace lynn pixelgoth devinever deviwhatever disgracedlynn
4646chloe sagal chloesagal
4647ian miles cheong stillgray
4648arthur_affect arthur chu
4649alex lifschitz alexlifschitz
4650jonathan mcintosh radicalbytes #FullMcintosh
4651[29/12/2014, 9:57:38 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Does twitter do partial word searches? So
4652[29/12/2014, 9:57:43 AM] Tesseract: no
4653[29/12/2014, 9:57:55 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Ah. So, maybe add "jewskeesian"
4654[29/12/2014, 9:58:21 AM] Tesseract: hm, there's much more here than I expected
4655[29/12/2014, 9:58:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): nevermind. jewskeesian doesn't find anything
4656[29/12/2014, 9:58:47 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4657[29/12/2014, 9:59:08 AM] Tesseract: oh looks like juicebro has been a fan of proto-gg as early as september 2013
4658[29/12/2014, 9:59:25 AM] Tesseract: "Feminist who got paid 160K via Kickstarter to play and review video games stole footage from male gamers"
4659[29/12/2014, 9:59:49 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/505595472804081664 lol
4660[29/12/2014, 10:01:52 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, the reply: "Be careful. She might be able to fake those. She faked everything else so far.."
4661[29/12/2014, 10:02:50 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/510224873051144192 HAHAHAHA
4662[29/12/2014, 10:03:04 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG
4663[29/12/2014, 10:04:15 AM] Tesseract: he's really obsessed with claiming anita faked her threats
4664[29/12/2014, 10:04:58 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): as are most MRAs
4665[29/12/2014, 10:04:58 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/527644240549933057 lol gg you fucking idiots
4666[29/12/2014, 10:05:53 AM] Tesseract: he seems to have some sort of faux-respect for anita for supposedly being a good con artist
4667[29/12/2014, 10:06:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: common attitude
4668[29/12/2014, 10:07:36 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah
4669[29/12/2014, 10:07:52 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: before I got distracted- Drag @knifehorse in here, yea or nay?
4670[29/12/2014, 10:08:25 AM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/543163606255161344 what
4671[29/12/2014, 10:08:31 AM] Tesseract: I dont recognize knifehorse at all
4672[29/12/2014, 10:08:36 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I don't interact with them, so i can't comment
4673[29/12/2014, 10:12:45 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): (I recognize knifehorse's name, but don't follow them)
4674[29/12/2014, 10:12:55 AM] Ian Cheong: Do not interact with TFYC.
4675[29/12/2014, 10:13:25 AM] Ian Cheong: Also hi everyone
4676[29/12/2014, 10:13:30 AM] Ian Cheong: What's the story?
4677[29/12/2014, 10:13:32 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): hey
4678[29/12/2014, 10:13:56 AM] Quinnae: I... need to find leftovers to reheat.
4679[29/12/2014, 10:14:03 AM] Ian Cheong: "Anita and Denton have kept hands clean re: me. A very high level Gawker editor was in on the planned Op against me, though."
4680[29/12/2014, 10:14:05 AM] Ian Cheong: lol planned Op
4681[29/12/2014, 10:14:08 AM] Quinnae: I also have no idea who Knifehorse is.
4682[29/12/2014, 10:14:10 AM] Ian Cheong: What, does he think we're roguestar?
4683[29/12/2014, 10:15:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: The guy behind this blog- http://cathodedebris.tumblr.com/post/102289586233/the-villans-of-gamergate-1-milo-yiannopoulos
4684[29/12/2014, 10:17:01 AM] Ian Cheong: I don't know Knifehorse very well but he seems cool on Twitter.
4685[29/12/2014, 10:17:31 AM] Rob: Hey, ian.
4686[29/12/2014, 10:18:14 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey
4687[29/12/2014, 10:18:31 AM] Ian Cheong: Apparently Chris Chan (you know the guy, he's infamous) got arrested for spraying mace on a GameStop employee.
4688[29/12/2014, 10:18:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Gators are painting this as "anti-gamergater ... blah blah blah"
4689[29/12/2014, 10:18:56 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: haha what
4690[29/12/2014, 10:18:57 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: link
4691[29/12/2014, 10:19:02 AM] Ian Cheong: there's video too
4692[29/12/2014, 10:19:04 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qo468/antigamergater_arrested_after_vandalizing/
4693[29/12/2014, 10:19:16 AM] Rob: wtf
4694[29/12/2014, 10:19:37 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): But Chris Chan, though. I didn't even know they had a stance on GG
4695[29/12/2014, 10:20:12 AM] Ian Cheong: "If this counts as an Anti-GG action, wouldn't they also be able to spin it to say that the harassment(irl too, death threats and bullying he received from Encyclopedia Drammatica is #GamerGate's fault because ED is Pro-GG?
4696Do you even think of the consequences before you declare victory over something?"
4697[29/12/2014, 10:20:29 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): AHAHA
4698[29/12/2014, 10:20:31 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wow
4699[29/12/2014, 10:20:43 AM] Rob: haha
4700[29/12/2014, 10:22:09 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I sincerely hope naive GGers didn't take this as a signal to go harrass Chris Chan further
4701[29/12/2014, 10:24:34 AM] Randi Harper: if someone pepper sprays other people, i could care less if they get harassed tbh
4702[29/12/2014, 10:24:56 AM] Randi Harper: pepper spray is brutal
4703[29/12/2014, 10:24:56 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: ^
4704[29/12/2014, 10:25:02 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i mean
4705[29/12/2014, 10:25:07 AM] Ian Cheong: did serumbro show up for Chris's debate earlier?
4706[29/12/2014, 10:25:14 AM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i say that but there's still stuff that crosses the line, of course
4707[29/12/2014, 10:25:16 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No. moved to tomorrow
4708[29/12/2014, 10:25:34 AM] Rob: Eh, but he's been arrested, right?
4709[29/12/2014, 10:25:44 AM] Rob: At that point as long as he's prosecuted I don't really see an issue
4710[29/12/2014, 10:26:14 AM] Ian Cheong: Chris Chan ain't right in the head.
4711[29/12/2014, 10:26:28 AM] Rob: I don't really know who he is
4712[29/12/2014, 10:26:55 AM] Ian Cheong: He's famous for making videos where he's married to Sonic the Hedgehog.
4713[29/12/2014, 10:27:03 AM] Ian Cheong: He drew a series of comics about it.
4714[29/12/2014, 10:27:09 AM] Rob: uhm
4715[29/12/2014, 10:27:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "Christian Weston Chandler (b. Christopher Weston Chandler), also known as Chris-Chan and CWC, is a YouTube vlogger and creator of the webcomic Sonichu. Around late 2007, Christian became a trolling target by Encyclopedia Dramatica and 4chan, due to his low quality body of work, unusual behaviors, and extreme reactions to hostility."
4716[29/12/2014, 10:27:21 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): more background here: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/chris-chan-cwc-christian-weston-chandler
4717[29/12/2014, 10:27:30 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): the whole thing is really fucked up.
4718[29/12/2014, 10:27:33 AM] Quinnae: Oh wow, I remember this.
4719[29/12/2014, 10:28:26 AM] Charloppe: certainly did not see this happening
4720[29/12/2014, 10:28:45 AM] Ian Cheong: Hey everyone
4721[29/12/2014, 10:28:47 AM] Ian Cheong: Context DO matters!
4722[29/12/2014, 10:28:49 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qo406/context_do_matters/
4723[29/12/2014, 10:28:52 AM] Ian Cheong: rofl
4724[29/12/2014, 10:29:01 AM] Randi Harper: During this time at the college, Chris had been expelled for a year after attempting to pick up women via signs.
4725[29/12/2014, 10:29:02 AM] Randi Harper: wut
4726[29/12/2014, 10:29:06 AM] Ian Cheong: this is a quotable goldmine
4727[29/12/2014, 10:30:14 AM] Izzy (@iglvzx): IDK. Just from that description alone, I picture someone with a sign that says "Hey, cutie, go out with me. please"
4728[29/12/2014, 10:31:28 AM] Rob: Is it wrong that I feel bad for him?
4729[29/12/2014, 10:31:53 AM] Ian Cheong: No, it's not wrong
4730[29/12/2014, 10:32:00 AM] Ian Cheong: He's been bullied by ED and the channers.
4731[29/12/2014, 10:35:16 AM] Ian Cheong: Jack Thompson apologism
4732[29/12/2014, 10:35:17 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qmow3/how_gaming_press_treated_a_conservative_opponent/
4733[29/12/2014, 10:37:03 AM] Ian Cheong: "Yeah, Thompson is down right reasonable compared to Feminazis & other SJWs."
4734[29/12/2014, 10:37:14 AM] Rob: lolol
4735[29/12/2014, 10:37:23 AM] Rob: And yeha I just finished reading that article, I feel bad for the kid
4736[29/12/2014, 10:43:40 AM] Ian Cheong: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2qmoux/like_spoilt_children_demanding_vegetables/
4737[29/12/2014, 10:43:50 AM] Ian Cheong: from the article: "Of course, we all have a right to be offended, but that does not entitle us to demand bans as soon as we see something we disagree with."
4738[29/12/2014, 10:43:57 AM] Ian Cheong: ironic that they're posting this
4739[29/12/2014, 10:44:12 AM] Ian Cheong: considering they want writers like leigh alexander banned for expressing their opinions
4740[29/12/2014, 10:46:24 AM] Ian Cheong: also in another post, about sexism against men:
4741[29/12/2014, 10:46:27 AM] Ian Cheong: "Most American women are probably higher than me, socioeconomically. Certainly seems that way on OkCupid, where they all have masters degrees and list their favorite obscure hipster authors and artists. Of course, they never reply, because they still hold men to gender roles. I'm no breadwinner. I can't even afford to live in a trailer park, so I moved back home with my gram. I'm curious how someone at the bottom of the food chain has "power"."
4742[29/12/2014, 10:47:08 AM] Rob: oh dear.
4743[29/12/2014, 10:47:11 AM] Randi Harper: why do dudes always use the loser argumernt
4744[29/12/2014, 10:47:14 AM] Randi Harper: argument
4745[29/12/2014, 10:47:22 AM] Ian Cheong: because these men are pathetic
4746[29/12/2014, 10:47:38 AM] Rob: I always ask them "Please explain how any of that is because of you being a man qua man."
4747[29/12/2014, 10:48:25 AM] Randi Harper: it's true, i don't reply to unemployed people on okcupid
4748[29/12/2014, 10:48:27 AM] Randi Harper: but that's not because of gender roles
4749[29/12/2014, 10:48:34 AM] Ian Cheong: Yep. It has nothing to do with being a man and everything to do with the fact that the guy is probably a pathetic waste of skin.
4750[29/12/2014, 10:48:39 AM] Randi Harper: that's because I've dated guys that were unemployed or made far less than me in the past, and it NEVER worked out well.
4751[29/12/2014, 10:48:51 AM] Randi Harper: usually because they had a problem with it
4752[29/12/2014, 10:48:57 AM] Ian Cheong: Yeah.
4753[29/12/2014, 10:49:21 AM] Randi Harper: but admittedly, i like going on nice vacations, i like going out to good restaurants, i buy too many gadgets. and that can be a difficult thing in a relationship if people aren't on the same socioeconomic levels.
4754[29/12/2014, 10:54:11 AM] Ian Cheong: another post:
4755[29/12/2014, 10:54:13 AM] Ian Cheong: "women in the US are a majority of the population and a solid majority of the electorate. Women live longer, healthier, happier lives, with less work, more time with friends, more time with family, and less chance of violent victimization. Women receive preferential treatment in education, in employment, in criminal law, in family law, in government services, in healthcare, and in social interaction. Women decide 70% of all consumer spending and thus advertisement driven media is forced to pander to female sensibilities, regardless of truth or merit.
4756Despite all of these measurable empirical facts which show women are living better than any other demographic in the history of the human race, the zeitgeist of today is that women are horribly oppressed by evil men. We truly live in an age of deception."
4757[29/12/2014, 10:55:18 AM] Rob: I love how full of shit that entire thing is.
4758[29/12/2014, 10:55:34 AM] Ian Cheong: it's what MRAs believe
4759[29/12/2014, 10:55:35 AM] Rob: Like until the ACA, being a woman was a pre-existing condition for insurance.
4760[29/12/2014, 10:56:48 AM] Rob: I need to make more anti-MRA videos.
4761[29/12/2014, 10:57:23 AM] drinternetphd: yooo how'd the debate go
4762[29/12/2014, 10:57:37 AM] Rob: Juicebro fudged the time, rescheduled to tomorrow
4763[29/12/2014, 10:57:42 AM] Rob: I believe
4764[29/12/2014, 10:57:57 AM] drinternetphd: shit I owe alex 5 bucks
4765[29/12/2014, 10:58:28 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: heh
4766[29/12/2014, 10:59:07 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: ... help, I need to work on my game and SKR is tempting me with the siren song of playtesting a weird mutant version of D&D!
4767[29/12/2014, 11:25:14 AM] nicholas.boterf: So why exactly is TFYC basically painting targets on Veerender’s back? https://twitter.com/TFYCapitalists/status/549377605930340353
4768[29/12/2014, 11:25:47 AM] Quinnae: Good lord, TFYC appeared in my mentions because I used the damn acronym.
4769[29/12/2014, 11:25:59 AM] nicholas.boterf: Oh they name search terribly.
4770[29/12/2014, 11:26:07 AM] Veerender Jubbal: They sent me two tweets.
4771[29/12/2014, 11:26:09 AM] nicholas.boterf: They’re ASSHOLES.
4772[29/12/2014, 11:26:10 AM] Quinnae: I know.
4773[29/12/2014, 11:26:12 AM] SF: They've popped up literally every time I've mentioned them.
4774[29/12/2014, 11:26:12 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Call out tweets.
4775[29/12/2014, 11:26:39 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: There's a reason you keep seeing me say stuff like The Fuzzy Yellow Caterpiller.
4776[29/12/2014, 11:27:27 AM] nicholas.boterf: Like I don’t even remember you Veerender criticizing them or anything? Why this SUDDEN INTEREST in Sikh community (other than to harass you?)
4777[29/12/2014, 11:29:19 AM] Quinnae: hugs Veerender
4778[29/12/2014, 11:29:41 AM] Quinnae: Tried to leverage my powerful, evil SJW web brand to send some love your way, dear. :P
4779[29/12/2014, 11:33:36 AM] Remy: Ugh, I see TFYMatt is still trying to harass Veerender into giving him attention
4780[29/12/2014, 11:34:12 AM] Remy: lol with 3 favs and zero RTs he's obviously just swimming in community support
4781[29/12/2014, 11:34:20 AM] Quinnae: Only hang out with Fine Young Social Democrats.
4782[29/12/2014, 11:34:36 AM] Veerender Jubbal: Yeah...
4783[29/12/2014, 11:34:54 AM] Remy: I got tired of it all, now I only hang out with Those Crazy Old Fucking Communists
4784[29/12/2014, 11:35:02 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: And still denying anyone is a journalist when called out about giving any journalist contact info for his totally existent contestants.
4785[29/12/2014, 11:36:18 AM] Remy: TFYC is the internet version of a van with tinted windows hanging around in your neighborhood
4786[29/12/2014, 11:38:00 AM] Faruk Ates: Hey all
4787[29/12/2014, 11:40:19 AM] Remy: heyo
4788[29/12/2014, 11:40:52 AM] Rob: you are all awesome~
4789[29/12/2014, 11:40:55 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So am I correct that inviting @knifehorse in here is still 1 for, 15 "who?"
4790[29/12/2014, 11:40:56 AM] Rob: also I am buzzed so boops
4791[29/12/2014, 11:41:02 AM] Remy: boops back
4792[29/12/2014, 11:41:20 AM] Tesseract: yes
4793[29/12/2014, 11:44:11 AM] Quinnae: No idea who they are, yeah.
4794[29/12/2014, 11:45:41 AM] Quinnae: boops Rob back I just got started with my drinking tonight.
4795[29/12/2014, 11:47:49 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: very fact-checky blogger who tries to keep a low profile and clue other people into stuff
4796[29/12/2014, 11:47:50 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://cathodedebris.tumblr.com/
4797[29/12/2014, 11:49:14 AM] Rob: :D
4798[29/12/2014, 11:49:35 AM] Remy: wait
4799[29/12/2014, 11:49:41 AM] Remy: Knife horse is the person behind cathodedebris?
4800[29/12/2014, 11:49:45 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Yeah
4801[29/12/2014, 11:49:48 AM] Remy: whoa
4802[29/12/2014, 11:49:52 AM] Remy: badass
4803[29/12/2014, 11:50:03 AM] Quinnae: Ohhhhhh!
4804[29/12/2014, 11:50:20 AM] Remy: one of the only people who've been on-point from day one with this whole boondoggle
4805[29/12/2014, 11:50:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Apparently I haven't made that clear by linking to posts of his every time someone asks "Who?"
4806[29/12/2014, 11:50:59 AM] Remy: :( I'm sorry
4807[29/12/2014, 11:55:54 AM] Ian Cheong: I'm for.
4808[29/12/2014, 11:57:13 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: So that's now more like Yes x4 "Who?" x10 then?
4809[29/12/2014, 11:57:41 AM] Rob: I abstain
4810[29/12/2014, 11:57:48 AM] Rob: since I'm not familiar with them personally
4811[29/12/2014, 11:57:57 AM] Rob: (basically whatever everyone else wants is fine w/ me)
4812[29/12/2014, 11:58:21 AM] Quinnae: I'm a bit agnostic on adding more members at this point.
4813[29/12/2014, 12:05:43 PM] David Gallant: Evening, I'm back.
4814[29/12/2014, 12:07:01 PM] Remy: I have no objections to knife horse, but I also understand any hesitation, as I think it's healthy to be mindful of the level of trust and privacy we enjoy in this circle that is afforded to us because of the smart security decisions we make
4815[29/12/2014, 12:10:56 PM] Ian Cheong: Yup
4816[29/12/2014, 12:11:11 PM] Quinnae: Howdy David.
4817[29/12/2014, 12:11:24 PM] David Gallant: I don't quite know who that person is, if my input matters.
4818[29/12/2014, 12:23:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o a judge on The Voice Holland passed out after hearing a contesting sing: http://www.wimp.com/passout/
4819[29/12/2014, 12:46:13 PM] David Gallant: Poor Veerender is getting slammed out there.
4820[29/12/2014, 12:46:42 PM] Remy: Are they still railing at Veerender on Twitter?
4821[29/12/2014, 12:46:53 PM] David Gallant: Still.
4822[29/12/2014, 12:46:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: what happened with veerender? why are they after him now D:
4823[29/12/2014, 12:47:00 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: figured they were focused on angry joe
4824[29/12/2014, 12:47:08 PM] Tesseract: who?
4825[29/12/2014, 12:47:39 PM] David Gallant: Sarah - someone glomped onto an ask.fm thing he answered with "video games are garbage". His tweets have been spread around GG and KiA
4826[29/12/2014, 12:47:41 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: angry joe is a youtuber that closed some GG threads on his forum
4827[29/12/2014, 12:47:43 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and people went batshit
4828[29/12/2014, 12:47:57 PM] Tesseract: lol
4829[29/12/2014, 12:48:03 PM] Tesseract: what forum?
4830[29/12/2014, 12:48:11 PM] Remy: TFYMatt has been trolling Veerender on twitter goading him with offers of doing a video game project for Sikh people
4831[29/12/2014, 12:48:42 PM] Remy: Obviously designed to put a spotlight/target on Veerender for harassment
4832[29/12/2014, 12:49:37 PM] David Gallant: Whoa whoa whoa... Matt from TFYC is in on this?
4833[29/12/2014, 12:49:55 PM] David Gallant: Oh that sniveling little fuck.
4834[29/12/2014, 12:50:11 PM] David Gallant: Same guy who claimed they could make Depression Quest in a week.
4835[29/12/2014, 12:50:24 PM] David Gallant: (and I challenged them to do so, which they never did)
4836[29/12/2014, 12:53:16 PM] Tesseract: seems juicebro had a bit of an issue with john scalzi before this as well
4837[29/12/2014, 12:54:17 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/526882995945234433 lol him and icer are a perfect fit
4838[29/12/2014, 12:55:07 PM] David Gallant: ... uhhhhhh
4839[29/12/2014, 12:55:09 PM] David Gallant: Wow.
4840[29/12/2014, 12:55:13 PM] David Gallant: Mike is dumb.
4841[29/12/2014, 12:55:27 PM] Faruk Ates: o_O
4842[29/12/2014, 12:55:34 PM] Faruk Ates: how did the debate go? did it happen?
4843[29/12/2014, 12:55:52 PM] Tesseract: no
4844[29/12/2014, 12:55:54 PM] Faruk Ates: I had to leave abruptly 'cause my friend arrived at the coffee shop (Chris can attest to the ultimate SJW-SF-hipster nature of my situation)
4845[29/12/2014, 12:55:59 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: He didn't show and said "tomorrow!"
4846[29/12/2014, 12:56:04 PM] Faruk Ates: ah of course
4847[29/12/2014, 12:56:45 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so uh
4848[29/12/2014, 12:56:50 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: http://www.patreon.com/user?u=162165
4849[29/12/2014, 12:56:53 PM] Tesseract: b/c he listed the date as "monday, september 28th"
4850[29/12/2014, 12:57:14 PM] Tesseract: old news
4851[29/12/2014, 12:57:17 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: this is an 8 day week grace period I guess?
4852[29/12/2014, 12:58:27 PM] David Gallant: The original Patreon message to Brennan was that he had until the end of the month.
4853[29/12/2014, 12:58:37 PM] David Gallant: I hope they shut down whatever new page he sets up.
4854[29/12/2014, 12:58:47 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: david: no affiliation with hate groups is allowed
4855[29/12/2014, 12:58:52 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: and he's publishing on the daily stormer
4856[29/12/2014, 12:58:56 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: so he'll get booted
4857[29/12/2014, 12:59:38 PM] David Gallant: It's a matter of when, how long does it last, will they prevent him from trying again, etc.
4858[29/12/2014, 12:59:39 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: if no affiliation with hate groups is allowed, WTF is Sarkeesian Effect still up?
4859[29/12/2014, 1:00:04 PM] David Gallant: I'm not bully on Patreon living up to their promises right now. They've shown themselves to be a bit spineless.
4860[29/12/2014, 1:00:34 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/295651247179042816 lmao
4861[29/12/2014, 1:00:35 PM] Faruk Ates: they probably have to spend some more time investigating the hard link between aurini and whatever nazi white supremacy thing he's with (I forget)
4862[29/12/2014, 1:01:18 PM] Faruk Ates: Talking in Matrix analogies about real life is so, so sad. :/
4863[29/12/2014, 1:01:19 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/295651552109150210
4864[29/12/2014, 1:01:44 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/355060793961746432 lol idiot
4865[29/12/2014, 1:02:33 PM] Remy: lol
4866[29/12/2014, 1:02:42 PM] Remy: which color pill makes him stfu
4867[29/12/2014, 1:03:01 PM] Faruk Ates: hahaha
4868[29/12/2014, 1:03:26 PM] Faruk Ates: Which color pill makes you grow a pair of balls?
4869[29/12/2014, 1:03:31 PM] Faruk Ates: (literally)
4870[29/12/2014, 1:04:29 PM] Remy: Okay nobody tell Zoe
4871[29/12/2014, 1:04:43 PM] Remy: but I bought myself Nidhogg on PS4 since it's on sale and I'm gonna try it for the first time now
4872[29/12/2014, 1:04:47 PM] Remy: I SUCK at fighting games
4873[29/12/2014, 1:04:52 PM] Remy: no reflexes
4874[29/12/2014, 1:05:12 PM] Remy: I'm an expert marksman but I'm a huge flincher in a close-up fight
4875[29/12/2014, 1:05:31 PM] Faruk Ates: Are you a sniper type warrior, Stephen?
4876[29/12/2014, 1:05:35 PM] Faruk Ates: (sorry for the simplification)
4877[29/12/2014, 1:09:12 PM] Faruk Ates: Either my connection has suddenly dropped/become ineffective, or I said the most offensive thing possible and the entire room is in SJW-induced shock.
4878[29/12/2014, 1:09:20 PM] Faruk Ates: Or people are busy.
4879[29/12/2014, 1:09:52 PM] Faruk Ates: I'll go with #3 and lie down some more to cater to my sudden intense headache
4880[29/12/2014, 1:11:43 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Well, your connection's fine
4881[29/12/2014, 1:12:03 PM] Remy: Sorry I was AFK trying the game
4882[29/12/2014, 1:12:15 PM] Remy: And yeah, I stink at Nidhogg XD
4883[29/12/2014, 1:12:33 PM] Remy: I never went full sniper 'cause I'm a terrible runner and that's pretty big in sniper school apparently
4884[29/12/2014, 1:12:49 PM] Remy: But I guess I took to marksmanship quite naturally
4885[29/12/2014, 1:18:06 PM] Remy: what the fuck is this https://twitter.com/pixelgoth/status/549433239387906049
4886[29/12/2014, 1:18:33 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh yeah, you didn't catch that?
4887[29/12/2014, 1:18:53 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Cernovich talked her into it yesterday IIRC?
4888[29/12/2014, 1:19:40 PM] Remy: wtf
4889[29/12/2014, 1:19:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
4890[29/12/2014, 1:19:46 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): oh god, why
4891[29/12/2014, 1:22:42 PM] David Gallant: Yeah. "Feminist Frequency XXX". Saw that thread.
4892[29/12/2014, 1:23:14 PM] Tesseract: oh god does he have a daughter https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/523682874545799168
4893[29/12/2014, 1:23:49 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): they are calling the GG camshow "Boob Frequency" ...
4894[29/12/2014, 1:24:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): that poor girl.
4895[29/12/2014, 1:24:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): wait. is that his daughter? or his girlfriend?
4896[29/12/2014, 1:24:45 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): "my girl" could mean either
4897[29/12/2014, 1:25:20 PM] Remy: I believe that tweet is referring to his gf or whomever he is dating or merely a photo he is posting to pretend it is his gf
4898[29/12/2014, 1:26:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): OMG, what if he ends up faking a girlfriend. it would be poetic justice for Peter
4899[29/12/2014, 1:26:55 PM] Remy: The photo didn't have any clones on tineye
4900[29/12/2014, 1:26:59 PM] David Gallant: I don't even want to begin deconstructing how teaching someone to use a gun is never a complete defense against abuse.
4901[29/12/2014, 1:27:06 PM] Remy: ^
4902[29/12/2014, 1:27:20 PM] David Gallant: So many people I know who have been abused have been the victims of people they were close with.
4903[29/12/2014, 1:27:36 PM] David Gallant: People they would never confront with a weapon, even after the fact.
4904[29/12/2014, 1:28:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): yeah. like the whole "you're more likely to be raped when out in public" myth
4905[29/12/2014, 1:28:05 PM] David Gallant: It is SUCH a damaging notion that abuse only comes from strangers in dark alleys, and that weapons are the only defense needed.
4906[29/12/2014, 1:28:37 PM] David Gallant: But Cernovich is all about damaging notions and harmful ideas.
4907[29/12/2014, 1:28:47 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/543276457003208704 juicebro makes some bold claims about his dick size
4908[29/12/2014, 1:29:30 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
4909[29/12/2014, 1:29:39 PM] Remy: More importantly
4910[29/12/2014, 1:29:56 PM] Remy: if he is becoming overly familiar with this... member... then that means he may be running low on magic
4911[29/12/2014, 1:31:21 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/139465782416519170 this contradicts his later claims
4912[29/12/2014, 1:32:09 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/171769486309982208
4913[29/12/2014, 1:32:28 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/171794311292256257
4914[29/12/2014, 1:32:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He is such a tool
4915[29/12/2014, 1:32:54 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/234452349790322690 ah who could forget this classic
4916[29/12/2014, 1:33:22 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/274037683494469632 haha what the fuck is this
4917[29/12/2014, 1:33:41 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4918[29/12/2014, 1:33:48 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/274797655924813824 juicebro classy as always
4919[29/12/2014, 1:33:59 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/549431204618182656 ROFL
4920[29/12/2014, 1:35:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Yeah, probably the best tweet ever from Chuck
4921[29/12/2014, 1:35:46 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Pretty sure it's that last one
4922[29/12/2014, 1:35:47 PM] Quinnae: Quinnae returns
4923[29/12/2014, 1:35:57 PM] Quinnae: Quinnae is drunk and melancholy, at least according to her partner.
4924[29/12/2014, 1:36:00 PM] Quinnae: How's folks?
4925[29/12/2014, 1:36:08 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: oh hey,I was scrolled way up
4926[29/12/2014, 1:36:14 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/366968686021574658 here's a good one
4927[29/12/2014, 1:36:20 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: and, I'm terrible because I'm STILL not getting to work for some reason
4928[29/12/2014, 1:36:31 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Quick pop in before we head to sleep but yes we approve of Knifehorse if someone can please finally invite him in
4929[29/12/2014, 1:36:36 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess is combing through Mike C's twitter feed to find incriminating stuff. and sharing the weird ones with us
4930[29/12/2014, 1:36:37 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Unless he's already here
4931[29/12/2014, 1:36:58 PM] Tesseract: Mike Cernovich @PlayDangerously 12 Aug 2013
4932
4933"I've had much socio-sexual success," said no man with game, ever.
4934[29/12/2014, 1:37:21 PM] Tesseract: also he really fucking hates obese people
4935[29/12/2014, 1:37:28 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: aha
4936[29/12/2014, 1:37:31 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Tess, it's because he used to be obese
4937[29/12/2014, 1:37:34 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): it seems
4938[29/12/2014, 1:37:39 PM] Alex Lifschitz: I know we keep talking about inviting him in and people are like "who?" and then they're like "oh yeah he's cool" and then we forget to invite him in
4939so let's do that
4940[29/12/2014, 1:37:44 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: so that's 3 votes for and like.... 10 "I don't know"s
4941[29/12/2014, 1:37:53 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I think 5 or 6 for yes
4942[29/12/2014, 1:37:57 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: OK
4943[29/12/2014, 1:37:59 PM] Tesseract: in related news WHY HAVEN'T WE INVITED ARTHUR CHU
4944[29/12/2014, 1:38:09 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Wasn't Sarah going to invite?
4945[29/12/2014, 1:38:10 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: I thought people did and he passed?
4946[29/12/2014, 1:38:14 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: i asked him and didn't get a reply
4947[29/12/2014, 1:38:17 PM] Sarah, Butt-er of the Butts: didn't want to peste rhim
4948[29/12/2014, 1:38:17 PM] Tesseract: oh
4949[29/12/2014, 1:38:19 PM] Tesseract: ask again
4950[29/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] Alex Lifschitz: ah
4951[29/12/2014, 1:38:22 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): lol
4952[29/12/2014, 1:38:25 PM] Tesseract: or someone else ask
4953[29/12/2014, 1:38:44 PM] Remy: they followed me this afternoon so I can ask if nobody else does
4954[29/12/2014, 1:39:08 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/430885003551993856 yes kill each other please
4955[29/12/2014, 1:39:19 PM] Alex Lifschitz: In other news we will be on sparingly for the next week or so because we're going to LA and fuck that place
4956[29/12/2014, 1:39:42 PM] Alex Lifschitz: So, y'know, keep being awesome and alert us if shit gets on fire
4957[29/12/2014, 1:40:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Going to CA to kick Mike C's ass?
4958[29/12/2014, 1:40:06 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Also don't tell anyone we'll be in LA or Cernovich will start screaming about how we're coming to kill him
4959[29/12/2014, 1:40:13 PM] Tesseract: http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/04/01/bodybuilder-tells-truth-steroids-hgh-gay-pay/ what the fuck
4960[29/12/2014, 1:40:18 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): good point. lol
4961[29/12/2014, 1:40:48 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Mostly we're going to see my sister and eat ramen and stay with a musician in the desert
4962[29/12/2014, 1:40:57 PM] David Gallant: Have fun in LA, you two. Or have whatever it is you're going down there to do.
4963[29/12/2014, 1:41:03 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: fun
4964[29/12/2014, 1:42:36 PM] Alex Lifschitz: basically family obligation, otherwise LA is horrendous
4965[29/12/2014, 1:42:42 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): LOL, didn't catch Peter's tweet earlier: https://twitter.com/petercoffin/status/549137035328376833
4966[29/12/2014, 1:42:52 PM] Remy: Well enjoy the sunshine
4967[29/12/2014, 1:43:39 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/526169530582568960 hmmmmmmm
4968[29/12/2014, 1:44:32 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Heh
4969[29/12/2014, 1:44:47 PM] Secret Gamer Girl: Someone was randomly trying to talk me into moving to LA the other day. "NOPE." "Why, have you even been there?" "I have. NOPE." "Well how much did you even see?" "NOPE."
4970[29/12/2014, 1:45:10 PM] Ian Cheong: That bad?
4971[29/12/2014, 1:45:30 PM] David Gallant: I liked being in Culver City for IndieCade, but I got the sense that it might not be nice to live there.
4972[29/12/2014, 1:45:50 PM] Quinnae: Alex, I wish you and Zoe the best in LA.
4973[29/12/2014, 1:46:10 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I have a friend that lives in LA. Studio City
4974[29/12/2014, 1:46:33 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): He likes living there. He's pretty well off, though.
4975[29/12/2014, 1:46:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): I'm content in the Seattle area. :3
4976[29/12/2014, 1:47:37 PM] Quinnae: I'm not much of a motorist, I fear. I'd be dreadfully out of place in LA.
4977[29/12/2014, 1:48:12 PM] David Gallant: At least the buses are cheap out there, Katherine.
4978[29/12/2014, 1:48:25 PM] Quinnae: Really?
4979[29/12/2014, 1:49:12 PM] Tesseract: https://twitter.com/PlayDangerously/status/477638440599560192 jesus
4980[29/12/2014, 1:49:43 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): o.o
4981[29/12/2014, 1:49:48 PM] David Gallant: $1 - $1.50, as I recall
4982[29/12/2014, 1:51:02 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): JennOfHardwire is trying to go at it with Annie
4983[29/12/2014, 1:51:07 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): Not going well for Jenn. XD
4984[29/12/2014, 1:51:17 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): https://twitter.com/AnnieKNK/status/549442248090611712
4985[29/12/2014, 1:51:34 PM] nicholas.boterf: Is this Mercedes? https://twitter.com/pixelgoth/status/549432931635044355
4986[29/12/2014, 1:51:40 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): No
4987[29/12/2014, 1:51:43 PM] Tesseract: oh lovely a shitton of "ian miles cheong is a nazi"
4988[29/12/2014, 1:51:44 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): One of her friends
4989[29/12/2014, 1:51:46 PM] Tesseract: it's always there
4990[29/12/2014, 1:51:57 PM] nicholas.boterf: Ok then!
4991[29/12/2014, 1:52:06 PM] Ian Cheong: Sigh
4992[29/12/2014, 1:52:21 PM] Tesseract: I always find it in every single gger's profile
4993[29/12/2014, 1:52:32 PM] Tesseract: well it's useful for reporting I guess
4994[29/12/2014, 1:52:34 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): @princesskora1 NSFW BOOBS. and giving GG lots of gross attention. eww
4995[29/12/2014, 1:53:04 PM] Izzy (@iglvzx): GG is beyond parordy. not too long before they finally convince that one porn actress to cosplay as Vivian james
4996[29/12/2014, 1:54:04 PM] nicholas.boterf: Yeah it’s pretty tasteless.
4997[29/12/2014, 1:55:53 PM] Remy: I guess I can download custom PSN avatars on the PS3 but not on the PS4
4998[29/12/2014, 1:56:22 PM] nicholas.boterf: Actually I’m surprised the Vivian James thing hasn’t happened before.
4999[29/12/2014, 1:56:48 PM] David Gallant: Stephen - Sony's shit is remarkably inconsistent.
5000[29/12/2014, 1:56:54 PM] Tesseract: holy fuck he really has it out for arthur chu for some unknowable reason