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1[1/16/2016 1:56:36 AM] *** Sejuani added Alexander ***
2[1/16/2016 1:57:03 AM] Sejuani: And now the team's completely assembled, minus Mrs. Frosty Arrow and European Plantaloo.
3[1/16/2016 9:56:46 PM] Alexander: \o/
4[1/16/2016 10:01:04 PM] The Mangle: o/
5[1/16/2016 10:01:29 PM] Alexander: \o
6[1/16/2016 10:40:25 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: o
7[1/16/2016 10:40:38 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: whoah i wanted to make a dancing face
8[1/16/2016 10:40:43 PM] Josh Hirschbeck:  o 
9[1/18/2016 9:21:38 AM] Ronni Usagi: ANNIE AND I DID WORK
10[1/18/2016 9:23:50 AM] Ronni Usagi: http://pastebin.com/TzqCCeSz [8:00]Deadeye_Jhin: (No. If women ruled the world you would just have a bunch of countries not talking to each other... BAD AWFUL JKE, I KNOW
11
12^is where that started
13I talked to Jihn: http://pastebin.com/RafGAFTi
14Annie spoke to Jinx: http://pastebin.com/5APDEZJS
15[1/18/2016 9:26:07 AM] Ronni Usagi: Also, Annie helped me with the last post because I'm bad at words atm
16[1/23/2016 11:52:57 PM | Edited 11:53:10 PM] Sejuani: Users Involved Silver Bolts
17Date: 1/23/2016
18Public Logs: http://pastebin.com/tU5m8t73
19Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/9u2ndq
20
21I'll make this report blunt. 
22
23Silver Bolts posted not once but two Twitch copy pastas. This caused another user to step in. Not only did Eden warn her against it, but I stepped in to add additional authority and crack down. When I did, Silver Bolts made light of the situation and claimed ignorance to the rules. Slap her with a 48 hour time ban next time they do it.
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25I'd normally be lenient, but how she flagrantly disregarded and stated she did it once because she knew she could get away with it is not acceptable.
26[1/29/2016 1:56:30 AM | Edited 1:59:24 AM] Sejuani: This isn't quite a warning, but I would like us to keep an eye upon Fukurou [ https://www.f-list.net/c/Fukurou ] 
27
28The user was needlessly antagonistic from what I saw, and I believe it's Ci Ankhor. If it is, it's not the first time the user's been warned for this.
29[1/29/2016 1:56:48 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah, agreed.
30[1/29/2016 1:58:08 AM] Alexander: Duly noted. I'll have a look at their profile to try and commit it to memory
31[1/29/2016 1:59:33 AM] Sejuani: I edited the original message to include a link, for the ease of everyone else.
32[1/29/2016 1:59:45 AM] Alexander: much appreciated
33[1/29/2016 2:00:12 AM] Ronni Usagi: Thank you, I had no idea this was going on, but reading up it's clear :x
34[1/29/2016 9:46:56 AM] The L: So I'm unable to log into F-List atm
35[1/29/2016 9:47:04 AM] The L: but
36[1/29/2016 9:47:12 AM] The L: I JUST GOT SOME OF THE BEST DEALS FROM THE LUNAL REVEL SHOP
37[1/29/2016 10:18:48 AM] Alexander: What
38[1/29/2016 10:24:28 AM] The L: Sandstorm Ekko for 30%
39Pentakill Olaf for 30%
40Blightstone Varus 60%
41Dragontamer Lulu 50%
42Resistance Caitlyn 70%
43Cowgirl Miss Fortune 20%
44[1/29/2016 10:24:52 AM] Alexander: ayyy not bad
45[1/29/2016 10:25:00 AM] The L: Especially the Ekko and Lulu
46[1/29/2016 10:25:03 AM] The L: like yo lemme at em
47[1/29/2016 10:25:21 AM] Alexander: I got, let's see....
48[1/29/2016 10:27:35 AM] Alexander: Phoenix Quinn for 20%
49Abyssal Nautilus for 70%
50Shadow Prince Malzahar (includes him) for 40%
51Lord Mordekaiser for 40%
52Bioforge Darius for 50%
53Elderwood Bard for 50%
54[1/29/2016 10:28:49 AM] The L: I'd want the Bard at least the other ones are meh
55[1/29/2016 10:29:19 AM] Alexander: I got the Mordekaiser one too just because I kinda like it
56[1/31/2016 11:08:05 PM] The Mangle: I've sent a warning to Shaco Not Stirred; https://www.f-list.net/c/shaco%20not%20stirred/
57
58The user made a rather distasteful joke, one that offended several patrons quite a bit. The user was compliant and admitted he crossed the line with said joke.
59
60http://pastebin.com/Jk3aJ1py
61[1/31/2016 11:10:58 PM] The Mangle: And, I had to remind him not to scroll too much. :B
62[2/1/2016 1:04:26 AM] Sejuani: Good Kohkoh.
63[2/1/2016 11:37:49 PM] Sejuani: Not currently home, but I was told Shaco Not Stirred, aka That Tasted Purple, acted up and was banned. Details? 
64
65I'll be reviewing the case for potential elevation, considering the individual's history of this.
66[2/1/2016 11:38:37 PM] cold ravioli: ... they were?
67[2/1/2016 11:39:07 PM] The Mangle: Timed out for a day, yes.
68[2/1/2016 11:39:16 PM] cold ravioli: When did this happen? Globally?
69[2/1/2016 11:39:42 PM] Sejuani: I was told this happened in the Inn.
70[2/1/2016 11:39:47 PM] Sejuani: Am I being misinformed?
71[2/1/2016 11:39:50 PM] Alexander: I timed out the user for a day. I'm working on a formal report and Mangle is being kind enough to compile the chat logs for me.
72[2/1/2016 11:40:34 PM] Sejuani: Could you give me a brief summary, since I'm on mobile?
73[2/1/2016 11:40:38 PM] Sejuani: And currently short on time.
74[2/1/2016 11:41:51 PM] cold ravioli: Ah, yeah, it happened recently
75[2/1/2016 11:41:59 PM] cold ravioli: In short, shaco was being a cunt. Darius asked him to stop. He did not.
76[2/1/2016 11:44:10 PM] Alexander: The user has been harassing Jhin members for quite a while now and I was notified of it and asked to step in. I formally told shaco to stop who ignored the request and went on a tirade about slights against her Jinx. The Jhin she bursted out on said they were backing from this conversation and Shaco had the gaul to say "yeah just hide behind the mods big man" to which I timed her out for that.
77[2/1/2016 11:44:36 PM] Alexander: http://pastebin.com/6nZH9R7X mangle provided a condensed script of everything they've said for the past 30 minutes
78[2/1/2016 11:45:36 PM] cold ravioli: I have a hunch that this person might also be "Come on Shoot Faster" Given the content of a conversation that went on last night, where they were talking about how they were tired of people making 'twig jokes' about their Jinx. At the time, I didn't see anything that was too egregious, so unfortunately I do not have logs
79[2/1/2016 11:46:17 PM] The Mangle: They are.
80[2/1/2016 11:47:11 PM] The Mangle: They're also That Tasted Purple and Xia Perfect Parasite. A more detailed and contextual log of the event is here: http://pastebin.com/JvuVBuuJ
81[2/1/2016 11:48:10 PM] Sejuani: I'll review the logs when I'm home and available. Pending the extremity of their abuse and actions, we may vote on extending their punishment. I'm inclined to believe it will be the case though, considering they've been warned recently on both Lulu and Shaco.
82[2/1/2016 11:55:55 PM] The Mangle: It might also be worth noting that they're Complicit Maven. The other night I was approached about them, after they had a large rant about Deadeye_Jhin making a few jokes at them. I can dig up those logs as well but the point is that they also caused trouble a few nights prior.
83[2/1/2016 11:57:55 PM] The L: Wait how many times has this one person gotten into trouble?
84[2/1/2016 11:58:36 PM] The Mangle: If the scene I'm trying to dig up is worth looking into, three times in the past two days or so.
85[2/1/2016 11:58:54 PM] The L: Ho boy
86[2/1/2016 11:59:14 PM] The L: Well vote or not I don't think they're getting the hint personally
87[2/1/2016 11:59:19 PM] The L: from actions alone
88[2/2/2016 12:04:02 AM] Sejuani: The primary meat of their issues and complaints range back from October and November of last year. They've been fairly good until this last week.
89[2/2/2016 12:04:40 AM] Alexander: Which raises the question of what happened this last week
90[2/2/2016 12:05:03 AM] The L: Then whatever attitude they've manage to get under their this week better move out quick or else they're going to be making all kind of jokes elsewhere imo.
91[2/2/2016 12:05:14 AM] cold ravioli: They seem quite worked up over Jhin. Today's incident, for the most part, seemed like they were at least pretending to be IC, but they definitely crossed a line, especially when they didn't stop when Darius asked.
92[2/2/2016 12:06:24 AM] Alexander: From the horses' mouth in Private messages. The only thing she sent me.
93
94[23:31]Shaco Not Stirred: I wasntplanning onit. But for the record. I was responding to an IC slight
95[23:31]Shaco Not Stirred: where he commented on shaco being not funny
96[23:32]Shaco Not Stirred: But, fuck it. being In character is no excuse. Just hope the next time a jhin talks shit about somebody he gets the same treatment
97[2/2/2016 12:08:47 AM] The Mangle: http://pastebin.com/2YcHRPWp
98
99This is the aforementioned outburst on Complicit Maven. The user lashed out at Deadeye_Jhin for a simple joke and took it beyond such.
100[2/2/2016 12:11:52 AM] cold ravioli: I... don't even really understand what Jhin said in that log to set them off?
101[2/2/2016 12:14:43 AM] The L: me either
102[2/2/2016 12:14:55 AM] The L: I guess some kind of IC vs OOC commentary
103[2/2/2016 12:15:03 AM] The Mangle: I don't either. It could be from an earlier engagement when Deadeye_Jhin attempted a sexual advance on Complicit Maven. But regardless, they started ranted about not liking Jhin and who or what she'd like smut from. And it doesn't change the fact that two people informed me of it after the happening.
104[2/2/2016 12:15:51 AM] cold ravioli: Can we like... forbid them from talking about Jhin?
105[2/2/2016 12:16:53 AM] Alexander: like in the South Park movie?
106[2/2/2016 1:02:21 AM] Ronni Usagi: Not sure what I returned too
107[2/2/2016 1:03:09 AM] cold ravioli: In short: Someone was being a dick. Darius said, more or less, "Hey, quit being a dick." They then proceeded to continue being a dick, and accused someone of 'hiding behind mods.' They were subsequently timed out for a day.
108[2/2/2016 1:03:27 AM] Ronni Usagi: o7
109[2/2/2016 1:03:49 AM] cold ravioli: We may, at a later time, discuss further punishment, as they have been a recurring problem.
110[2/2/2016 1:04:19 AM] Ronni Usagi: Deadeye_Jhin? (I need to fully read the ogs but that's what I gather)
111[2/2/2016 1:04:50 AM] cold ravioli: No. The Jinx/lulu/sona person
112[2/2/2016 1:05:06 AM] cold ravioli: Shit, what was their name today... uh.... oh!
113[2/2/2016 1:05:11 AM] cold ravioli: Shaco not stirred
114[2/2/2016 1:05:24 AM] Ronni Usagi: I'll read up in just a moment, sorry ;;
115[2/4/2016 1:47:15 AM] The Mangle: http://pastebin.com/L7aM30x0
116[2/4/2016 1:48:12 AM] The Mangle: That paste is of two people, Kidou cock and Sweetheart Annie (Xia/Shaco/Complicit Maven) having a not so friendly back and forth. Annie had to warn them twice before they dropped everything.
117[2/4/2016 1:49:57 AM] Ronni Usagi: Oh, they have their alts on public; Got it Memorized had caused issues in another room before so idk if it's safe to say it's just a history that issues follow them around.
118[2/4/2016 1:50:13 AM] cold ravioli: wait it's shaco again?
119[2/4/2016 1:50:19 AM] Ronni Usagi: Yeah
120[2/4/2016 1:50:19 AM] The Mangle: Yep yep.
121[2/4/2016 1:50:29 AM] cold ravioli: okay welll after being timed out, they do it again
122[2/4/2016 1:51:42 AM] The Mangle: Honestly. The user seems horribly opinion and emotion driven. I dare say they simply have thin skin and a hard time taking some not-so-nice comments. Or, rather, the snark the Inn usually has.
123[2/4/2016 1:54:00 AM] Sejuani: Good evening, I'm awake and looking into the issue now.
124[2/4/2016 1:54:31 AM | Edited 1:54:48 AM] Sejuani: Have either of you spoken to Annie [Shaco/That Tasted Purple/Twerp] in private, yet?
125[2/4/2016 1:56:02 AM] The Mangle: I have not.
126[2/4/2016 2:18:03 AM] Sejuani: Logs of my conversation with them: 
127http://pastebin.com/fHCicBzY
128http://prntscr.com/9ytbt0
129[2/4/2016 2:18:23 AM] Sejuani: If they cross this line again and harass a user within the next 24 hours, put on an immediate week long ban.
130[2/4/2016 2:19:03 AM] Sejuani: Pending the severity of the infraction, we'll discuss lengthening it or making it permanent. 
131
132If they fall in line and behave beyond this, we'll discuss their situation on a case to case basis.
133[2/4/2016 2:20:54 AM] The L: So you guys don't really do bans that often?
134[2/4/2016 2:21:39 AM] cold ravioli: thanks sej,  you're the best. I'd have contribued further, but I noticed this happening literally as I was loading into a game that just ended
135[2/4/2016 2:22:39 AM] Sejuani: I strongly prefer rehabilitation. 
136
137And the user behaved for nearly three months before this outburst this week.
138[2/4/2016 2:23:08 AM] cold ravioli: Now that I'm out of the game, I'd like to point out that fukurou was being rather.... awful as well.
139[2/4/2016 2:23:24 AM] The L: That whole conversation was just baffling to follow
140[2/4/2016 2:23:43 AM] Sejuani: I'm more concerned about long term toxicity and users who refuse to reform or fall in line.   For example, I've been tempted time and time again to ban Ci Ankhor and Fukurou. We're quickly approaching a formal discussion for her status.
141[2/4/2016 2:24:05 AM] The L: Sometimes people just need a ban Sej
142[2/4/2016 2:24:15 AM] The L: you can just allow them to send you a note in order to revoke it
143[2/4/2016 2:24:44 AM] The L: but using it as a last resort might get some individuals who are a little to used to tip toeing the line a reason to use your kindness against you
144[2/4/2016 2:24:59 AM] Sejuani: I agree.    
145
146Yet, sometimes people have a bad or sour week which can lead to poor behavior.  That Tasted Purple has adhered to the rules and not even toed them for months. Until this last week, they've behaved. I've issued a warning to them. If they continue to misbehave, their punishment is going to escalate.
147[2/4/2016 2:27:34 AM] The L: I'm just used to the usual escalation system with certain leniencies for time related things but we're speaking like...maybe a year or months back. We've had plenty of users who seem fine but then just get themselves in trouble to fast and quick and well....they end up getting banned for it.
148[2/4/2016 2:28:03 AM] The L: Granted I take glee in banning a legitimate idiot who's trying to ruin other people's fun there is something about making sure the lesson 'sticks'
149[2/4/2016 2:28:04 AM] Ronni Usagi: Things just happening all at once, and the like.
150[2/4/2016 2:28:35 AM] The L: Some people send in a ticket and get back in but usually if they screw up after that? That's it
151[2/4/2016 2:28:40 AM] The L: no ifs ands or butts
152[2/4/2016 2:37:36 AM] Sejuani: Keep an eye on the room. I'm taking a shower and getting something to eat.
153[2/4/2016 2:38:12 AM] cold ravioli: ja
154[2/4/2016 2:38:30 AM] Ronni Usagi: o7
155[2/5/2016 7:20:52 PM] Sejuani: \o/ Dundundundun!
156[2/5/2016 7:21:07 PM] Sejuani: Iculas has acquired a new computer! With this, our hero will be able to join us once more.
157[2/5/2016 7:21:08 PM] cold ravioli: ?
158[2/5/2016 7:21:12 PM] cold ravioli: ooooh
159[2/5/2016 7:21:18 PM] cold ravioli: I thought it was like, dramatic duns
160[2/5/2016 7:21:18 PM] *** Sejuani added Iculas ***
161[2/5/2016 7:21:26 PM] Alexander: THE END TIMES ARE NEAR
162[2/5/2016 7:21:27 PM] Sejuani: Noooope! \o/
163[2/5/2016 7:21:29 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: AYE AYE!
164[2/5/2016 7:23:48 PM] Iculas: Life is a delusion and so are pants.
165[2/5/2016 7:24:12 PM] The L: just because you can't afford Old Navy doesn't mean the rest of us can't.
166[2/5/2016 7:25:37 PM] Iculas: Down with pants, up with skirts. Vote Avarosan 2016. Also why is there not a group photo up? No judgmental Lulu or gorgeous mosaic of the Moon? I am disappoint. ;_;
167[2/5/2016 7:26:27 PM] Iculas: But seriously: thanks for the warm welcome back everybody. It feels good to be back in the saddle.
168[2/5/2016 7:27:41 PM] Sejuani: Now go smoke! `^`  Go, go, I'm waiting on you to get back Icky.
169[2/5/2016 7:27:54 PM] cold ravioli: Smoking's bad, mkay?
170[2/5/2016 7:28:06 PM] Iculas: I'm almost done. Phones are great.
171[2/5/2016 8:36:00 PM] Ronni Usagi: :D!
172[2/10/2016 8:32:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: I'm gonna bring this up before anything gets confusing: Renegade Talon is not the same person who had the name before. It's a name change from RenegadeTalon.
173[2/10/2016 9:09:26 PM] Iculas: Thanks for the heads up, Eden. I'm actually pouring through several hundred logs to find and pin down another name to apply the ban against right now. I only remember a couple of his names and now that he isn't always actively trying to evade or screw with the League channels it's going to be difficult. I'll let you guys know when I find an appropriate one.
174[2/10/2016 9:24:44 PM] Iculas: Well, it seems this particular user has deleted all the League characters I knew were him. We'll just have to catch him again should he show up and start causing trouble. At one point he had three different Talons. =/
175[2/10/2016 9:33:28 PM] The L: Do I need to do a alt check or something? Or is this a room contained thing?
176[2/10/2016 9:35:41 PM] Iculas: It's a room contained thing and there isn't any thought that he might be considering evasion. I just know I'll have to explain it should he ever get caught showing back up since he won't be currently on the banlist. It's no biggie, he knows he's banned and I have evidence via notes to back it up. Just because he deletes the character and we had to remove it doesn't change the fact he knows he shouldn't be in there. It's just... annoying.
177[2/10/2016 9:35:52 PM] Iculas: might even be considering *
178[2/10/2016 9:36:59 PM] Iculas: Well.... two rooms. XD
179[2/11/2016 1:52:53 AM] Sejuani: What if we... /ban ORIGINALRenegadeTalon `^`
180[2/11/2016 1:53:10 AM] The L: gasp
181[2/11/2016 1:53:15 AM] cold ravioli: .... Why?
182[2/11/2016 1:53:44 AM] Iculas: >:|
183[2/11/2016 1:53:56 AM] Alexander: I think its a joke, Annie :P
184[2/11/2016 1:54:05 AM] Sejuani: It was.
185[2/11/2016 1:54:07 AM] cold ravioli: Oh.
186[2/11/2016 1:54:15 AM] cold ravioli: I'll just be over here
187[2/11/2016 1:54:27 AM] Alexander: XD
188[2/11/2016 1:55:51 AM] Sejuani: It's okay Annie, we all have durps time to time.
189[2/11/2016 1:57:28 AM] Sejuani: However, on a more serious note, we do know that Renegade Talon has ban evaded at least once. He was in the room when we found the Peacock ban evasion.
190[2/11/2016 2:09:02 AM] Iculas: He's a repeat issue but unless one of his buddies comments on the name being active in the channel I don't think we'll have any reappearance.
191[2/11/2016 2:10:16 AM] Iculas: Well, skype is now worthless on my phone. Not sure why they thought I'd want to stare at a list of emoticon buttons rather than the little bit of what I'm currently typing. Ffs
192[2/11/2016 2:11:03 AM] cold ravioli: If they're not causing issues, then I'd say finding them for ban evasion isn't worth. It seems more like a thing you tack on for them breaking other rules. Like the seatbelt rule. Most of the time, not wearing a seat belt is added to other penalties that draw attention
193[2/11/2016 2:17:34 AM] Iculas: I'm inclined to agree but with him and his buddies, or at least the currently banned ones, I'm not giving them a second of consideration if they get caught. You don't evade a ban repeatedly after well over a year of harassing people in a community, mods included, and then get a free pass just because you're not causing trouble. Him, Temms, or Zed aren't going to waste my time.
194[2/11/2016 2:17:57 AM] cold ravioli: Oh, Iknow. If we KNOW they're evading, then yeah.
195[2/11/2016 2:18:02 AM] Iculas: Bingo!
196[2/11/2016 2:18:04 AM] cold ravioli: But as far as like, searching for it.... it's probably fruitless
197[2/11/2016 2:19:00 AM] Iculas: Yeah, I'm definitely not wasting my time or stressing myself out over that group.
198[2/11/2016 4:21:03 PM] Ronni Usagi: Anyone know who Closet Furry is? I have a feeling that's a ban evaor
199[2/11/2016 4:23:43 PM] The Mangle: No idea. :x
200[2/11/2016 4:23:49 PM] The L: Same
201[2/11/2016 4:25:02 PM] Iculas: No idea. I'll look again after my coffee. Originally I thought Fernando but that isn't him unless he suddenly got a little smarter.
202[2/11/2016 4:25:04 PM] Ronni Usagi: http://pastebin.com/3HfSGY2f Posting this here for now; if y'all wanna help me keep an eye on them
203[2/11/2016 4:25:39 PM] Ronni Usagi: "a little smarter"
204[2/11/2016 4:26:15 PM] Ronni Usagi: It's too late and early for the magical thing called a snowdown miracle
205[2/11/2016 4:27:38 PM] Iculas: .... so basically it's a benign Troll.
206[2/11/2016 4:27:48 PM] Ronni Usagi: yeah
207[2/11/2016 4:28:00 PM] Ronni Usagi: still wanted to put that in there to keep an eye out
208[2/11/2016 4:30:35 PM] Iculas: Unless it's been in the first week I actually have yet to do any moderation for the Inn this year. If it's to handle a Troll it won't be pretty.
209[2/11/2016 4:31:58 PM] The L: >_>
210[2/11/2016 4:32:06 PM] The L: if you're worried just ban the troll
211[2/11/2016 4:32:16 PM] The L: ain't like its gotta be a huge debacle
212[2/11/2016 7:06:46 PM] cold ravioli: I don't think anyone will be upset by the removal of an obviously troll character. Pretty easily justifiable via rule 1, too
213[2/11/2016 7:07:45 PM] Iculas: It is, I'm just going to keep an eye on them since they really only made two posts that I could see. If it becomes a habit zeh bootz will occur.
214[2/11/2016 7:09:31 PM] cold ravioli: That's not nearly as obviously a troll character as I suspected, though. After looking up the name, it seems like a humorous name for a legitimate character.
215
216On the other hand, the profile is like, 100% empty and a bit old. So I'unno. Seems like 'keep an eye on them' is the best plan.
217[2/11/2016 7:10:22 PM] Iculas: It has a few markers on there that are classic indicators of somebody not really wanting to roleplay on the character.
218[2/11/2016 7:11:14 PM] cold ravioli: yeah.
219[2/11/2016 7:12:34 PM] cold ravioli: I guess I was just saying that my vague familiarity makes me see the potential joke of  using that name. So it's not like, as complete troll as something like gordan ramsey or floor sucks cock or whatever
220[2/11/2016 7:15:21 PM] Iculas: Indeed. But I think it's safe to say floor sucks cock was a direct retaliation for banning those 3/4 members of a certain group and not the average troll. Actually two of the Gordan Ramseys we've banned were from that group. D:
221[2/11/2016 7:15:38 PM] cold ravioli: I know
222[2/11/2016 7:16:15 PM] cold ravioli: I"m just using examples of like, obvious trolls, and then names like 'grabbin dat ass' which are debatably humorous names for characters. Near as I can tell, that particular Beowulf is like, part wolf or osmething, hence the joke.
223[2/11/2016 7:22:14 PM] Iculas: You're right, I see what you're saying now: Kill stealer, Grabbin dat ass, Le Lenny face, Melody, all clearly Troll characters and you can tell pretty quick. All of those except for Lenny were pretty benign, just looking to have a good time and not really trying to get it to the detriment of other people's fun. I figure worse come to worst I'll have to say something to him about it.
224[2/11/2016 7:23:57 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah. Either way, you're right with the 'wait and see' approach. Also... melody? Wat?
225[2/11/2016 7:26:19 PM] Ronni Usagi: wait
226[2/11/2016 7:26:23 PM] Ronni Usagi: why is Melody a troll
227[2/11/2016 7:26:36 PM] cold ravioli: ha, rekt
228[2/11/2016 7:26:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: Th-that's my character
229[2/11/2016 7:30:50 PM] Iculas: ^ answering her own question. +10 points.
230[2/12/2016 7:17:28 PM] Sejuani: Fae Touched Lulu [ https://www.f-list.net/c/Fae%20Touched%20Lulu // http://prntscr.com/a2k7k5  / http://prntscr.com/a2k7ne ] 
231and
232Logs: http://pastebin.com/HsNwkdEi
233Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/a2k7yv
234
235User was in an argument and took it a bit too far, and became downright aggressive and huffy when she was misquoted in an argument regarding Yordle height.  I've cracked down on her and made it aware we'd be watching her, but no need for direct action.
236[2/12/2016 7:20:15 PM] Sejuani: I'll edit that to have cleaner logs, later. I was forced to rely on my logging alt, since I had been away and not present.
237[2/12/2016 7:23:13 PM] Alexander: the things that happen when you turn away for a bit...
238[2/12/2016 7:26:36 PM] Sejuani: Idle side note and room objective.
239[2/12/2016 7:27:13 PM] Sejuani: League of Legends clubs were disabled on PBE for the last 3-4 patch cycles and was just readded (finalized and cleaned up) in the newest cycle.
240[2/12/2016 7:27:29 PM] Alexander: What's that?
241[2/12/2016 7:27:31 PM] Sejuani: I'm not sure who will be around when it drops, considering the servers always patch so late at night.
242[2/12/2016 7:27:42 PM] Iculas: When I looked into that it was documented as only clubs for schools and not just groups of individuals.
243[2/12/2016 7:28:49 PM] Iculas: Also, let me know when you clean up those logs, I've recorded everything thusfar minus those channel logs but it isn't like I can't extract them later, manually, if you don't get around to it.
244[2/12/2016 7:29:33 PM] Sejuani: Can do. And will do, but last time I saw, it was going to be available to the public. Is that incorrect?
245[2/12/2016 7:29:46 PM] *** Alexander googles this ***
246[2/12/2016 7:29:48 PM] Sejuani: And Darius, the Club system is more or less a way to "group up" and play via League.
247[2/12/2016 7:30:12 PM] Sejuani: It's meant to have up to 150 members, and allows people in the club to talk directly through the League client and match up and play.
248[2/12/2016 7:30:36 PM] Sejuani: I wanted us to make sure we snagged the League of Legends Inn before a random, or worse (PJ's group,) got it.
249[2/12/2016 7:31:17 PM] Alexander: Ahah. That seems like a fair enough assessment
250[2/12/2016 7:32:00 PM] The Mangle: I have literally no life and a horrible sleep schedule Assuming I've shifted to a night owl schedule by then, I can certainly shoot for it.
251[2/12/2016 7:32:04 PM] Alexander: :| why is my protection software suddenly saying that League is malware?....
252[2/12/2016 7:32:16 PM] Sejuani: Do you use Avast?
253[2/12/2016 7:32:19 PM] Alexander: yes
254[2/12/2016 7:32:29 PM] Sejuani: Cheery Noxian was just discussing issues about it in the Inn.
255[2/12/2016 7:32:33 PM] Sejuani: But I use Avast and have zero issues.
256[2/12/2016 7:32:46 PM] Alexander: I've never had an issue with it before just now
257[2/12/2016 7:33:08 PM] Sejuani: The issue is new, and from today. As in Cheery is discussing it right now if you'd look, dork.
258[2/12/2016 7:33:19 PM] Alexander: even just scanned it with avast. No issues found
259[2/12/2016 7:33:28 PM] Alexander: I can see that now, thank you >:c
260[2/12/2016 7:33:30 PM] Sejuani: You have to put an exception into Avast for it.
261[2/12/2016 7:36:06 PM] Alexander: there we go
262[2/12/2016 7:38:02 PM] Iculas: I've heard a lot of things about Avast lately. One of the programmer buddies was saying that Avast is approaching the level of malware these days.
263[2/12/2016 7:38:11 PM] Iculas: Lately being over the past few months.
264[2/12/2016 7:38:33 PM] Alexander: Avast has been weird since I started using it
265[2/12/2016 7:39:33 PM] Alexander: I just bought a year subscription only a couple weeks ago because why not, but its been telling  me recently that my subscription's going to end in a month
266[2/12/2016 7:43:10 PM] Iculas: That's not right! D:<
267[2/12/2016 7:43:42 PM] Alexander: presently looking into it right now. I'll call them if I have to
268[2/12/2016 7:43:58 PM] Sejuani: I've been experiencing odd CPU and processing issues with Avast. When my own subscription runs out in May, I'll be scrubbing my harddrive and installing a new security.
269[2/12/2016 7:44:14 PM] Sejuani: And it's an IVR, Alexander. You normally have to be called back.
270[2/12/2016 7:44:20 PM] Sejuani: They have extremely odd and limited hours.
271[2/12/2016 7:45:30 PM] Alexander: wait.... wtf
272[2/12/2016 7:45:41 PM] Iculas: Kaspersky is pretty solid, by the way.
273[2/12/2016 7:46:12 PM] Alexander: it is telling me that the only thing I'm registered for is their cleanup system
274[2/12/2016 7:50:18 PM] Alexander: weeelp
275[2/13/2016 2:00:24 AM] Iculas: http://pastebin.com/GxsLNakp
276
277Just to let everybody know that didn't see it but the character Sonenia just chose to bring up an issue they had involving the word "Nigger" in the Inn. They didn't drop the word in there specifically but they were verbose enough to have multiple people confront them about their stance. I was a little confrontational myself and I didn't bother to say something to them privately either. I saw no sense rubbing their nose in it.
278[2/13/2016 3:42:30 AM] Iculas: Round two! Fight! Okay not really fight.... Sonenia part 2
279http://pastebin.com/S2vVuwJ5 Pms
280http://prntscr.com/a2nk9o In channel
281
282Somebody gave me a nudge to let me know they were back. (Admittedly I didn't realize the slur was used more than once so I may have to go back in there for Talon. Maker have mercy this isn't going to be easy.) I decided to go on in and do what I probably should have done the first time: Explain the situation.
283[2/13/2016 3:47:14 AM] cold ravioli: Good ol' talon and their propensity for calling people 'faggots.' Always fun.
284[2/13/2016 3:47:45 AM] Iculas: One day I'm going to smack Talon really hard for doing something like this and it'll make me feel downright awful.
285[2/13/2016 3:48:06 AM] cold ravioli: Why feel awful?
286[2/13/2016 3:50:13 AM] Iculas: Because I have respect for them and they've made it quite clear they do not care much for me. It seems like every time I handle an issue for the Inn involving them I hear about it later from somebody else.
287[2/13/2016 3:50:42 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah well I'll tell 'em off if you want. They already hate me, and only recently started acknowledging my existence.
288[2/13/2016 3:51:23 AM] Alexander: so much hate
289[2/13/2016 4:41:52 AM] Iculas: Message delivered but they were completely unresponsive, I'm assuming because they were busy with whatever they set themselves busy for - I presumed it was video games with friends.
290[2/16/2016 8:12:45 PM] cold ravioli: Is 'music to your fears' that sona again?
291[2/16/2016 8:13:21 PM] The Mangle: Yes
292[2/16/2016 8:13:25 PM] cold ravioli: can we ban them now?
293[2/16/2016 8:13:28 PM] cold ravioli: they're being a cunt again
294[2/16/2016 8:13:41 PM] cold ravioli: and, guess what, it's about jhin
295[2/16/2016 8:14:15 PM] The L: I'm wondering how long we can go without anyone reacting to them
296[2/16/2016 8:14:25 PM] The L: I WANT PEOPLE TO LEAVE ME ALONE
297[2/16/2016 8:14:45 PM] Alexander: They just sent me a message, actually
298[2/16/2016 8:14:58 PM] The L: They want us to ban veigar?
299[2/16/2016 8:15:15 PM] cold ravioli: Honestly it's not even that bad this time.
300[2/16/2016 8:15:18 PM] Alexander: [20:14]Music to your Fears: This is like the eighth time final boss veigar has tried to start a fight with me
301[20:14]Music to your Fears: I fell to his baits, but he consistently eggs me on to start drama and im sick of it
302[2/16/2016 8:15:20 PM] cold ravioli: It's just... they're not learning.
303[2/16/2016 8:15:37 PM] The L: Where's the egging?
304[2/16/2016 8:15:56 PM] Alexander: reading through the whole thing now
305[2/16/2016 8:16:16 PM] cold ravioli: http://pastebin.com/7vXYAJUj
306[2/16/2016 8:16:21 PM] cold ravioli: I made a pastebin as far back as I could
307[2/16/2016 8:16:25 PM] cold ravioli: to make ctrl-f easier
308[2/16/2016 8:19:59 PM] The Mangle: I mean. I've also been told they had a fit yesterday on their female Varus. Frankly, I wouldn't be opposed to just banning them at this point. They've had more than enough warnings and chances.
309[2/16/2016 8:21:54 PM] The Mangle: I'll dig up logs for it. But supposedly they went off on a Jhin for suggesting something to them.
310[2/16/2016 8:22:43 PM] Alexander: Alright. Had an entire read through it.
311[2/16/2016 8:24:39 PM] Alexander: The source of this derives from, once again, her opinion on Jhin
312[2/16/2016 8:25:11 PM] cold ravioli: (For the sake of official-ness)
313Music to  your Fears and Final Boss Veigar
314https://www.f-list.net/c/music%20to%20your%20fears/
315Logs: http://pastebin.com/7vXYAJUj
316
317Argument regarding Jhin, and such, again. The argument/confrontation ended on it's own, and didn't escalate too far. there was also some scrolling. I didn't PM them.
318[2/16/2016 8:25:26 PM] cold ravioli: oh, also, https://www.f-list.net/c/final%20boss%20veigar/
319[2/16/2016 8:25:59 PM] The Mangle: http://pastebin.com/zh9jQtST The aforementioned incident yesterday. Nothing major. But still more venom tossed simply due to a Jhin speaking.
320[2/16/2016 8:29:58 PM] Alexander: Long story short, Music to Fears is accusing Veigar of bullying them by specifically correlating Lulu to Jhin under the pretense that they know she is That Tasted Purple. She also declares that this is not the only case that Veigar has been hostile towards her. I'll message Veigar but does anyone recall any situations prior to this involving the two?
321[2/16/2016 8:30:24 PM] cold ravioli: Not that I know of. I'd say he was egging her on a little bit, but that doesn't really excuse the behavior, in my eyes at least.
322[2/16/2016 8:59:11 PM] Sejuani: Unfortunately, I'm not currently home. But, I will catch up on this when I'm settled in and able to.  If you feel a need to time someone our due to their behavior, I trust your judgment.
323[2/16/2016 8:59:59 PM] Alexander: I am presently discussing things with them.
324[2/16/2016 9:12:33 PM] Ronni Usagi: Why am I always afk when things are happening
325[2/16/2016 9:21:10 PM] *** Alexander pat pat. Poor pickles. Go back to your vinegar jar. ***
326[2/16/2016 9:21:20 PM] Ronni Usagi: >:I No
327[2/16/2016 9:21:35 PM] Alexander: >:c don't argue with me!
328[2/16/2016 9:24:33 PM] Sejuani: Wow, I've heard some insensitivity from you before, but that takes the cake. You two are so going to some Racial Sensitivity Class.
329
330Disrespecting those poor pickles like that.
331[2/16/2016 9:24:56 PM] Ronni Usagi: I don't even like pickles ;A;
332[2/16/2016 9:25:15 PM] Alexander: You are the vinegar of my life, Eden.
333[2/16/2016 9:25:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: Just as you are the poorly timed jumpscares in mine, spooks
334[2/16/2016 9:25:43 PM] Alexander: <3
335[2/16/2016 9:27:27 PM] Alexander: Long story short, rather than timing her out, I had a lengthy discussion with our little Lulu. Had a small talk with Veigar for the sake of formality and asked him a few questions concerning the issue, but I don't think he had any real intent behind it to harass her.
336[2/17/2016 10:54:25 AM] Alexander: [10:50]The Cryopheonix: I'd make a religious statement right here, but muslims are too sensitive, sigh.
337[2/17/2016 10:55:05 AM] Alexander: The user was quickly shut down by other members of the channel and I personally stepped in to make a note that comments like that are not acceptable.
338[2/17/2016 11:21:22 AM] Alexander: http://pastebin.com/srwRsZ4D PM paste. I don't think the user will do anything like that again.
339[2/18/2016 7:19:21 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I shall be back in 4-7 business days, power supply asploded
340[2/18/2016 8:10:51 PM] The L: God damnit
341[2/18/2016 8:10:58 PM] The L: get that static shiv out of there
342[2/18/2016 8:11:31 PM] cold ravioli: ...?
343[2/18/2016 8:11:59 PM] Ronni Usagi: Lawl
344[2/18/2016 8:12:03 PM] Ronni Usagi: I hope it works out for you man
345[2/18/2016 8:12:10 PM] The L: His power supply exploded and I was making a electricity joke
346[2/18/2016 8:12:12 PM] cold ravioli: OH
347[2/18/2016 8:12:14 PM] cold ravioli: GOT IT
348[2/18/2016 8:12:17 PM] The L: ....
349[2/18/2016 8:12:25 PM] The L: Maybe we need to warm you up
350[2/18/2016 8:12:33 PM] cold ravioli: it was so long after the initial comment
351[2/18/2016 8:12:38 PM] cold ravioli: that I didn't connect them together
352[2/18/2016 8:12:55 PM] cold ravioli: I assumed your comment was about something different. I actually went into the room to see if there was like, a shitposting lightning Shyvana
353[2/18/2016 8:13:05 PM] The L: nah
354[2/18/2016 8:13:21 PM] The L: ain't nothing going on in there that I didn't cause myself with my inheerant yelling at people
355[2/18/2016 11:08:53 PM] The L: Also I told Lili's dumb ass that she was getting ahead of herself when she started off with that Hitler joke
356[2/18/2016 11:09:18 PM] Ronni Usagi: Yeah.... I don't know if I report it here or leave it be since it's mostly a staff-staff thing
357[2/18/2016 11:09:21 PM] The L: I didn't actually think they'd keep going but once again I am astounding by the rampant stupidity of their lack of self restraint
358[2/18/2016 11:09:26 PM] The L: we got it
359[2/18/2016 11:09:30 PM] Ronni Usagi: yeah
360[2/18/2016 11:09:37 PM] The L: its just dumb on a lot of different levels
361[2/18/2016 11:09:52 PM] Ronni Usagi: Understatement
362[2/18/2016 11:09:59 PM] The L: believe me I know
363[2/18/2016 11:10:25 PM] The L: I'm just holding back because no one here needs to see Ottie legitimately rant about some of the shit he sees in reports and how a little common sense would've made it not exist.
364[2/18/2016 11:11:34 PM | Edited 11:12:42 PM] Ronni Usagi: One of the reasons I'm glad I do tickets and not chat side things. XD
365[2/18/2016 11:12:47 PM] Alexander: So lemme get this straight. You told her not to make a Hitler joke, and she does it anyway
366[2/18/2016 11:14:41 PM] The L: Yeeeeeeeep
367[2/18/2016 11:14:48 PM] The L: Literally that
368[2/18/2016 11:15:00 PM] Alexander: Hold on. Let me find this joke
369[2/18/2016 11:15:14 PM] The L: Just like 'when I complain about stupid things?' I'm not doing it because I like whining
370[2/18/2016 11:15:19 PM] The L: this shit is literally THAT stupid
371[2/18/2016 11:15:41 PM] Alexander: Holy shit. And she used a fucking offensive slur too
372[2/18/2016 11:17:34 PM] Alexander: If it wasn't for the fact that it was 30 minutes ago, I'd say hit that dumbass with a timeout
373[2/18/2016 11:17:47 PM] Ronni Usagi: Site staff hands now
374[2/18/2016 11:17:48 PM] The L: I would've just banned em
375[2/18/2016 11:18:01 PM] Alexander: someone sent a formal report?
376[2/18/2016 11:18:06 PM] The L: mhm
377[2/18/2016 11:18:07 PM] Ronni Usagi: hi
378[2/18/2016 11:18:10 PM] Ronni Usagi: That'd be me
379[2/18/2016 11:23:39 PM] Alexander: well apparently Ashe already banned em too. Moving on
380[2/18/2016 11:23:50 PM] *** Ronni Usagi tosses sparkles ***
381[2/18/2016 11:23:54 PM] Ronni Usagi: https://vine.co/v/ivQbLTbrIbY
382[2/18/2016 11:25:05 PM] Alexander: Ronni Wasabi
383[2/20/2016 5:09:38 AM] Iculas: Well.... skype signed me out on my phone so good gods. Sorry for being so quiet! D:
384[2/20/2016 5:10:13 AM] cold ravioli: How dare you
385[2/20/2016 5:14:41 AM] Ronni Usagi: Yeah, how dare you
386[2/20/2016 5:18:01 AM] Iculas: Head's up: I'm going to bold something so it's easier to find when scrolling through everything. I'm not mad or anything it's just something I want to make sure all of us see.
387[2/20/2016 5:18:19 AM] Ronni Usagi: You're mad at us, it's okay
388[2/20/2016 5:24:16 AM] Iculas: Reminder about using pastebin
389Guys, pastebin is great for a lot of reasons but I want to make sure you guys are doing something when you create a page for this sort of thing. If you just use the default settings when you make the link the default is set to Public and expiration set to Never. That means it can be searched by anybody on the internet and will last forever. 
390
391Set it to unlisted so the link can still be given and just to be safe I've been setting the expiration to a month because anybody keeping logs like I am will catch it pretty quick. Not everybody was here but we had an incident involving Kliss where somebody ran a search on her name just out of curiosity and discovered several humiliating RP logs then posted them in the channel thinking it was cute. It was devastating to her and there wasn't really anything anyone could do to the one that originally posted it, or get it taken down. 
392
393Protect yourselves and the users feelings, make sure it's unlisted at the very least. 
394[2/20/2016 5:24:40 AM] cold ravioli: ah, fair enough. I probably didn't do that.
395[2/20/2016 5:26:44 AM] Iculas: I wasn't at first either, but recently I made a pastebin and said "Whooops I almost set that to public" then I thought of how devastated Kliss was... it's something to keep in mind. We approach a lot of people in private so we aren't scolding them in public like a little child, I wouldn't want somebody to stumble onto that and be embarrassed by it.
396[2/20/2016 5:27:15 AM] cold ravioli: thought of how devastated kliss was? I feel like I'm missing something
397[2/20/2016 5:28:21 AM] The Mangle: I always set mine to unlisted. :v It just sort of seemed right for private logs.
398[2/20/2016 5:28:50 AM] cold ravioli: I don't know shit about pastebin, so it didn't even occur to me that they'd be different
399[2/20/2016 5:29:01 AM] The Mangle: But I will actually start letting them expire after a month.
400[2/20/2016 5:29:55 AM] Sejuani: Personally, I've always set mine to never expire but unlisted.  But, I can honor your wish, I suppose. The difference in the Kliss scenario, however, is this Diana.
401[2/20/2016 5:30:37 AM] Sejuani: Kliss had roleplay logs exposed by her former partners, who uploaded them for self-reference. 
402
403In our case, we're listing public logs and the logs of someone who has been admonished for their actions.
404[2/20/2016 5:30:49 AM] Iculas: I didn't really notice any set to public but I thought it might need to be mentioned and yes, it devastated Kliss. She found out, via the links placed in the Inn, that somebody had been posting logs of her roleplaying smut on pastebin and that anybody and everybody could find it. They were prurient in nature and she ended up going into hiding. 
405
406Honestly they don't need to be set to expire, I just do it as an added precaution.
407[2/20/2016 5:31:09 AM] cold ravioli: Oh. I had no idea that happened.
408[2/20/2016 5:31:14 AM] cold ravioli: That's horrible.
409[2/20/2016 5:32:14 AM] Iculas: It was when she deleted the character and kinda... stopped roleplaying for a while. It took her a few weeks to calm down. I don't think anything we posted would be that rough on somebody but it can still be a little embarrassing.
410[2/20/2016 5:33:03 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah. I don't know Kliss, but that does make sense when they disappeared. I'll bear that in mind for future reference. The private/expire thing
411[2/20/2016 5:33:51 AM] Iculas: There are three options. Public(Viewed by anybody) Unlisted(Need link) and private(I dunnno)
412[2/20/2016 5:35:02 AM] Sejuani: Long story short, I made sure the issue was ball gagged and stopped within a half hour, Annie. The user who did it was banned since when they were confronted, they acted like it wasn't a big deal and flagrantly didn't care. So, I ensured there was no muck from it.
413
414The fact you don't know means it worked.
415[2/20/2016 5:37:11 AM] cold ravioli: Did it get escalated to higher mods? I actually dunno what privacy matters are involved in global rules, but I feel like log sharing without consent could be a global issue?
416[2/20/2016 5:37:33 AM] Sejuani: It would be an infraction, but Kliss didn't want to report or escalate the issue.
417[2/20/2016 5:37:52 AM] cold ravioli: Ah. I see.
418[2/20/2016 5:42:02 AM] Sejuani: As someone whose had their logs shared to publicly shame them (and hurt others,) I'm pretty adamantly against it so I'll admit it was handled a bit harshly and quickly.  But, it would of been a site wide offense had Kliss actually reported it.
419[2/20/2016 5:46:57 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah I really don't like log sharing either. Haven't had anything that extreme happen as a result of it, but it's never a good thing.
420[2/21/2016 5:36:33 PM] Sejuani: As mentioned in the 2016 season announcement [ http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/social.html ], Riot is currently working on the CLUBS feature and it is up for PBE testing! While originally introduced as private chatroom updates, CLUBS are :
421
422    "Clubs are player-named (names must be unique), player-organized, and player-controlled social groups. The idea is to help you grow the amount of available friends at any given time so you can head to the Rift with the right teammates, every game. "
423
424As mentioned above, you can either make your own club or be invited to one! Once created or invited, you'll have access to the club's chat room and can display their tag.
425
426Clubs are live again on PBE and eta on live is soon.
427[2/21/2016 7:45:37 PM] cold ravioli: Okay?
428[2/21/2016 8:14:00 PM] Sejuani: We've discussed how we're going to try and snag the Inn as a club the day it comes to live =p Was just updating people since they'd released more info on them.
429[2/21/2016 8:14:10 PM] cold ravioli: ooooh, neat
430[2/23/2016 3:24:43 PM] Iculas: I'm currently investigating a report I received from earlier today.
431[2/23/2016 3:27:14 PM] The L: involving what
432[2/23/2016 3:31:43 PM] The Mangle: Indeed, I'd also like to know.
433[2/23/2016 3:40:36 PM] Iculas: I got distracted but from the screenshots I was sent it appears somebody was scrolling, another person asked them to stop, then a third jumped down the second person's throat and the first one started to argue it. I imagine the third party aggressively kept going on about it considering the messages I got.
434[2/23/2016 3:41:52 PM] Iculas: [10:03 AM]   Taric : There was a bit of an altercation involving the nuances of scrolling a while ago. I managed to defuse the situation before it got out of hand, but a short PSA that draws the line between "posting independent thoughts in quick succession" and "using multiple posts to convey a single idea" might be useful incase something simular comes up in the future.
435[10:06 AM]   Taric : This and that. Nothing too serious, but if there's apparently a divide in understanding, it might help to address it.
436[10:06 AM]   Taric : When you're awake, of course.
437[02:25 PM]   Pale Diana : Thank you for the report, I'll make sure this is dealt with. o7
438[2/23/2016 3:43:03 PM] Iculas: http://prnt.sc/a6yvqp http://prnt.sc/a6yw5s
439[2/23/2016 3:43:09 PM] Iculas: ^ This and that
440[2/23/2016 3:43:10 PM] The Mangle: I figured it happened while I was out. :\
441[2/23/2016 3:44:25 PM] Iculas: I'm about to look over logs for the morning, the original person scrolling is still online so I'll probably speak to them, explain just why I'm bringing it up and point out arguing about the rules isn't the best idea in the world.
442[2/23/2016 3:44:54 PM] The Mangle: Okie doke.
443[2/23/2016 4:02:14 PM] Iculas: After some review I have decided that the third party individual is going to get their ass set on fire by me. Mathias is going to get an explanation whenever he appears to be back at the helm. I'll also have to say something to Spider Queen Elise.
444
445[10:07 AM] Elise Spider Queen: Regardless the reason to why you are "scrolling", it is still not allowed in the room. 3 posts at a time is fine from personal experience, but anything above that is a no-no. Usually because people want to keep up with the conversation.
446[10:07 AM] Ravenous LeBlanc: As per the norm...
447[10:07 AM] J4 casually slides under a couch.
448[10:07 AM] The Cryopheonix Blinks once. [sub]"If you dare through that bread to me-"[/sub]
449[10:07 AM] Auani Halister: Late to the party. S'like she's the North Korea of F-chat.
450[10:08 AM] Irredeemable patpats the LeBlanc.  It wouldn't be the LoL room without it.  But let's move on to other topics.  Like why the fall of man is inevitable.
451[10:08 AM] Morgrim Voidwalker: Because Void.
452[10:08 AM] Demacias Eyes: She is not like the "north korea" of f-list
453[10:08 AM] Auani Halister: No wait, no. That's Glitter. Nevermind. 
454[10:08 AM] Termari: Hiss Void
455[10:09 AM] Elise Spider Queen: And you are a rude little dyke that obviously can't abide to the rules, so you have to give reason to why you posted a single sentence in one post. Think about what you are going to type out and then say it, not bind it together in several posts.
456[2/23/2016 4:16:13 PM] Sejuani: Dear, go ahead and get the axe. I'll hold her down and keep her neck nice and straight for you, because I'm ready to execute both Elise and Auani.
457[2/23/2016 4:16:22 PM] Sejuani: Do you have it handled or need any help, though, dear?
458[2/23/2016 4:17:43 PM] Iculas: Mathias has been unresponsive thus far and Auani recently accessed the site but hasn't signed in under one of those characters. If you remember she was the individual that said she'd like to play with somebody in the channel yesterday and then responded shortly after with a "..... well then >.>" or something along those lines.
459[2/23/2016 4:19:24 PM | Edited 4:19:41 PM] Sejuani: Also, we may need to look into PROJECT Lucian. 
460
461It may be Spider King Elise / Blood Moon Thresh.   At one point, he owned all five names. I'm not sure if that is still the case, but I'd rather be safe than sorry since it has a new owner.
462[2/23/2016 4:21:21 PM] Sejuani: And I actually do remember that instance from yesterday. Was that Auani?
463[2/23/2016 4:22:38 PM] Iculas: Yes it was on their other character. I actually left a window open to ask them if they wanted to play but it took too long for me to get free and they signed out.
464
465The last online timers don't match up for Project Lucian and BMT but that doesn't exactly mean anything.
466[2/23/2016 4:23:18 PM] Sejuani: Considering how often they make and change accounts? Not at all, sadly.
467[2/23/2016 4:24:05 PM] Iculas: I just realized I need to stop bringing up last online timers.....
468[2/23/2016 4:30:24 PM] Sejuani: It's okay `^` I wub woo anyway
469[2/23/2016 4:30:59 PM] *** Iculas coughs. ***
470[2/23/2016 4:34:20 PM | Edited 4:34:52 PM] Iculas: One down two to go. 
471http://prntscr.com/a749zz
472[2/23/2016 4:35:01 PM] Iculas: I realized I copy/pasted that into the screenshot to make it easier.
473[2/23/2016 7:12:51 PM] cold ravioli: A thought: should we make a rule against non-mods attempting to enforce rules? I know I've been one to do this in the past, so suggesting this now makes me a bit of a hypocrite
474[2/23/2016 7:14:18 PM] Sejuani: Honestly, the community should be able to police itself. It's a matter of how they enforce the rules, however.
475
476And, this is a bit off topic and a change in subject, but I feel it's appropriate to issue a formal apology to Loli Lux for Caitlyn Johnston's actions. For those of you unaware, last March we had a former moderator abuse and harass a user in our chatroom. Shen almost demoted Caitlyn Johnston on the spot when it was brought up with him, and we never had a chance to apologize to the user she harassed.
477
478Loli Lux deleted her profile within a half hour of the incident and just remade her profile about a hour ago.
479[2/23/2016 7:15:41 PM] cold ravioli: It SHOULD be able to, but I've seen several instances where 'hey, please don't do x, as per the rules' turns into a pissing match.
480[2/23/2016 7:16:23 PM] cold ravioli: When the person who says 'please don't do x' could easily pm a mod? But then again that's a bit of a pain, as then mod would have to drop what they're doing and investigate. I'unno.
481[2/23/2016 7:17:14 PM] Sejuani: Elise reached out to Diana, who was supposedly the only moderator online at the time. It happened early this morning from what I can tell
482[2/23/2016 7:18:33 PM] Iculas: I'll catch up but the problem this morning wasn't somebody enforcing the rules it was an issue of one person jumping down another's throat because they did. Two people said something and that user targeted only one.
483[2/23/2016 7:18:56 PM] Iculas: Catch up after dinner I mean.
484[2/23/2016 7:19:10 PM] cold ravioli: Right. I get that. But I wonder if such an incident would have happened had it been a mod in the first place, who enforced the rules.
485[2/23/2016 7:20:34 PM] Iculas: It wouldn't have but if they reported it to a mod instead it would have gone on for hours waiting for one of us.
486[2/23/2016 7:20:57 PM] cold ravioli: was no one around at all?
487[2/23/2016 7:21:15 PM] Iculas: It got to that point because it had been going on for half an hour already.
488[2/23/2016 7:21:44 PM] cold ravioli: To clarify, I'm saying that the user should have pmed mods, rather than do it themselves. Not that they should have let it go on until a mod noticed.
489[2/23/2016 7:22:08 PM] Iculas: I can defining scrolling, I can explain against it, but I can't be awake at six in the morning and twelve at night and day.
490[2/23/2016 7:23:04 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, that's fine. But I feel like SOMEONE was probably around? How long ago did it happen, anyways?
491[2/23/2016 8:01:26 PM] Iculas: Sorry for the delay and everything. It took me four hours to wake up but Darius was there when I got to my computer but think about it for a moment. You, Sej and I were all up somewhat late last night, Eden is out of town,Tryn's computer is down and Ekks had something going on too. It was just one of those rare occasions.
492[2/23/2016 8:06:04 PM] cold ravioli: I suppose. I still feel like I generally disprove of people trying to enforce the rules beyond gently mentioning them.
493[2/23/2016 8:09:12 PM] Iculas: That's the thing, in this situation if it was a public channel or PMs the rule for backseat moderation wouldn't have applied here as both the people who brought it up had not broken the rule. Considering how long it went Jinx actually asked in an extremely polite fashion, the Jarvan just told one of them to watch the scrolling. Here is the exact words said. 
494
495[09:51 AM] Jaunty Jinx: [ Can we please stop scrolling the chat so much... ]
496[09:52 AM] Auani Halister: Never play League if you even have an inkling of a possibility of having to "leave"
497[09:52 AM] J4: Mathias watch your scrolling
498[2/23/2016 8:09:16 PM] Sejuani: Since I didn't get much input on the formal apology to Loli Lux, I'm just going to give an informal apology on a one on one basis. I still feel bad about the situation she went through.
499[2/23/2016 8:09:33 PM] Iculas: Sej, I just got back. Has Loli Lux showed back up?
500[2/23/2016 8:09:43 PM] Sejuani: Yes. She's actually in the channel now.
501[2/23/2016 8:09:57 PM] Sejuani: And I've confirmed it's the same Lux from last March.
502[2/23/2016 8:12:12 PM] Iculas: She deserves a formal apology from one of us if not both, I trust you will convey my feelings on the matter just as easily as you would your own but if I remember correctly I even woke up during that incident and chimed in quite firmly without any context so feel free to encourage them to also approach me on Diana, I would like to  personally apologize for what I said. Just make sure they know to ignore the DND status.
503[2/23/2016 8:14:19 PM] Iculas: I'm going to approach Auani here shortly but I'm waiting to see if Annie wants to talk about this incident a little more.... I say conveniently to put off approaching said user in case I have to go potty.
504[2/23/2016 8:17:28 PM] cold ravioli: The incident in question, no. Things like this happen, and it's unfortunate. I'm speaking more on a general sense. I think you're handling it fine, I'm just saying that perhaps a 'backseat modding rule' is in order, as there's not currently one posted.
505[2/23/2016 8:21:46 PM] Iculas: I've seriously thought about it and I've commented to people before when they've aggressively tried to enforce our rules for us before, namely a few people like Final Boss Veiger but for the most part a backseat moderation rule is covered partially by not being a dick. It's a necessary rule for the site but it's one of those rules I see people accusing others of pretty frequently when they just want to keep breaking a rule or are upset. In this incident it would have been as well. I've talked myself out of suggesting a rule for backseat moderation quite a few times because I know we don't really need one to enforce it.
506[2/23/2016 8:22:20 PM] Iculas: Oh boy my grammar.
507[2/23/2016 8:22:22 PM] cold ravioli: I guess that's fair.
508[2/23/2016 8:22:39 PM] cold ravioli: That makes sense. especially since those being moderated upon would almost definitely use it as a shield. I ahdn't considered that.
509[2/23/2016 8:23:09 PM] Iculas: It's.... a problematic rule, kinda how the old soapbox rule was. People try to apply it beyond its intention.
510[2/23/2016 8:24:00 PM] Iculas: They actually did try to use that as a shield at one point, even though the rule didn't exist. XD
511[2/23/2016 8:25:48 PM] Sejuani: On a side note, the apology was sent and well received.
512[2/23/2016 8:26:31 PM] Iculas: Excellent. Did you tell them I also wanted to apologize? :<
513[2/23/2016 8:26:49 PM] Sejuani: I did, but they're watching a movie. I'm not sure if they will.
514[2/23/2016 8:27:23 PM] Iculas: I can only hope they'll eventually get around to it. :3
515[2/23/2016 9:36:49 PM] Iculas: I think I am going to remove Auani form the channel, permanently.
516[2/23/2016 9:42:51 PM] cold ravioli: What happened?
517[2/23/2016 9:43:32 PM] Sejuani: I'd imagine from where Diana is warning them.
518[2/23/2016 9:45:02 PM] Iculas: I haven't even begun to address their issue but I finished speaking with Mathias.
519[2/23/2016 9:45:19 PM] Iculas: Just a moment. I'll send you guys a report and a screenshot.
520[2/23/2016 9:46:34 PM] Iculas: 2 of 3 handled. Subject: Mathias Korok
521http://pastebin.com/YMp5sRWw
522[2/23/2016 9:55:44 PM] Iculas: Have the screenshot. http://prntscr.com/a770mk
523[2/23/2016 9:58:44 PM] cold ravioli: Wow, what a cunt.
524[2/23/2016 10:27:54 PM] Sejuani: Dear fucking lord.
525[2/23/2016 10:52:34 PM] Iculas: I know but the user was afraid. This is just how some people mask it and it is exacerbated by their personality.
526[2/23/2016 11:10:13 PM] Alexander: Oh boy..
527[2/23/2016 11:11:43 PM] Iculas: It is being handled with my trademarked ability. I believe it is coming to a close now.
528[2/23/2016 11:16:29 PM] Alexander: trademarked? :P
529[2/23/2016 11:57:55 PM] Iculas: Yes. Nobody is allowed to disarm and diffuse without paying royalties, unless they do it emotionally.
530[2/24/2016 12:23:46 AM] Alexander: Am I the only one who finds the point of that link Arurri just posted as utterly tasteless?
531[2/24/2016 12:24:24 AM] Ronni Usagi: Phone isn't allowing me to look at any of these links
532[2/24/2016 12:24:29 AM] Ronni Usagi: ;;
533[2/24/2016 12:29:44 AM] Sejuani: I'm not really sure that it was tasteful, but I don't think it's bordered actionable yet. If she keeps it up or makes another comment along those lines, I'd step in and say something.
534[2/24/2016 12:30:59 AM] Alexander: Roger.
535[2/24/2016 12:43:17 AM] Iculas: Fucking done! Subject: Auani Halister
536http://pastebin.com/Z75nT8mS
537[2/24/2016 1:18:15 AM] Sejuani: You handled her well, and I can honestly see how that would of been a straining conversation at first. But, it did end on a bittersweet note.
538[2/24/2016 1:36:22 AM] The L: So I'm kinda catching up here
539[2/24/2016 1:36:37 AM] The L: but all the people who have seen/heard worse from F-List are such melodramatic morons >:c
540[2/24/2016 1:37:10 AM] Iculas: I agree.
541[2/24/2016 1:38:07 AM] The L: Like oh I'm sorry you had to actually deal with a warning but don't worry once you're done cleaning your up ego you'll be just fine.
542[2/24/2016 1:40:15 AM] Iculas: I can't even be snide right now. I'm drained and disappointed with today and I think I'm going to have to go do site stuff soon.
543[2/24/2016 1:40:40 AM] The L: Ashe just go to bed
544[2/24/2016 1:40:43 AM] *** Sejuani gently curls her arms around Icky and gives her a big, supportive squeeze. ***
545[2/24/2016 1:41:23 AM] Ronni Usagi: Icky icky, they're the best, they're the best then all the breast.
546[2/24/2016 1:41:34 AM] Ronni Usagi: rest*, meh, better than breasts too. fuck it
547[2/24/2016 1:41:50 AM] Alexander: You can do it, Lord Commander! o7
548[2/24/2016 1:41:51 AM] The L: also what site stuff do you have to do?
549[2/24/2016 1:52:08 AM] Iculas: I don't want to say in here.
550[2/24/2016 1:52:21 AM] The L: Then just PM me
551[2/25/2016 3:00:57 PM] The L: Remind me again why Cherry Noxian is still in the Inn?
552[2/25/2016 3:01:08 PM] The L: Cause sometimes I'm finding it hard to justify their stay
553[2/25/2016 3:03:31 PM] The L: http://pastebin.com/1Ptah4eF
554[2/25/2016 3:15:58 PM] The Mangle: Not sure myself Ottie. Though I'd say that's one of her more mild moments.
555[2/25/2016 4:00:00 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Unsure here as well
556[2/25/2016 4:29:59 PM] Ronni Usagi: Isn't someone friends with her on the mod team?
557[2/25/2016 4:30:09 PM] Ronni Usagi: Other than that, idk why either
558[2/25/2016 4:30:24 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I think Ashe is
559[2/25/2016 4:31:28 PM] cold ravioli: I've no real issue with cheery. She crosses the line sometimes, but is usually receptive to 'hey, don't be like that.' and that's also the first thing I've seen them push the line with in a while
560[2/25/2016 4:38:39 PM | Edited 4:49:27 PM] Sejuani: Both Ashe and I are, and she is not currently banned for the same exact reason that Annie put forward. She has been receptive when spoken to, and has always fallen in line when warned. 
561
562This is one of her first major infractions in awhile.
563
564We moderate by the rules and not out personal opinions, however, and I'm a bit disappointed you even put that statement forward, Eden. You should know that Ashe or I would happily ban anyone who broke the rules. 
565[2/25/2016 4:40:22 PM] Sejuani: In this case, Cheery should certainly be talked to. If there is a concern of bias, I'm willing to step aside and let that warning come from someone beyond Ashe or I.
566[2/25/2016 5:02:25 PM] Sejuani: In the meantime, I'll be online shortly. Just finishing up cooking an early dinner.      I do love you dorks, though. We hired you because we trust your judgment and believe you're all good moderators.  If you ever feel someone has stepped over the line, you do always have the ability to issue a warning and speak to them. Or in an extreme case? Ban on the spot and bring the situation to us.
567[2/25/2016 5:04:00 PM] The L: I just use kicks
568[2/25/2016 5:04:04 PM] The L: they're more noticeable
569[2/25/2016 5:07:27 PM] The Mangle: It's a bit late, but now that I'm out of game, I can issue the warning if no one else wants to.
570[2/25/2016 5:09:35 PM] The L: if you think it'll be effective be my guest
571[2/25/2016 5:10:20 PM] cold ravioli: I honestly wouldn't worry about it.
572[2/25/2016 5:10:29 PM] cold ravioli: If they do it again, we should say something, though.
573[2/25/2016 5:13:29 PM] The Mangle: That's sort of how I feel. Hence why I cited it as a more mild example. Which is again why I said unless someone else wants to. :v
574[2/25/2016 5:37:49 PM] The Mangle: I gave user https://www.f-list.net/c/jon%20talbain/ a brief warning.
575Logs of incident: http://pastebin.com/hmtRjDuc
576And of the warning: 
577[17:34] Kindred: I'm going to make this short and sweet, friend. You're really pushing rule 3, and I don't want to make some public scene about things. I understand that game was rough and the person picked a very off meta support. But please refrain from excessive venting over it.
578[17:35] Jon Talbain: I know I'm sorry. ;;
579
580In short, the user did, or came close to violating rule 3. They argued and vented over Elise support being a troll pick. And even stated he wanted to flame someone over it.
581[2/25/2016 5:40:50 PM] cold ravioli: but... elise support used to be the meta and was pick or ban
582[2/25/2016 5:40:55 PM] cold ravioli: in... season 2 or 3
583[2/25/2016 5:41:43 PM] The Mangle: I'm more confused as to why he thought her spider form would help her be a better support beyond using repel to engage. Regardless, it's handled.
584[2/25/2016 6:15:18 PM] Iculas: That was a sad thing to read. Time to get out of bed.
585[2/25/2016 6:58:46 PM] Alexander: Bit late to the party, I am..
586[2/25/2016 7:01:09 PM] The L: GET THEM NIKES ON FAM
587[2/25/2016 7:01:17 PM] The L: ugh god I hate talking like that
588[2/25/2016 7:01:21 PM] Alexander: wat
589[2/25/2016 7:01:26 PM] The L: do you realize how ghetto that sounds IRL?
590[2/25/2016 7:01:31 PM] The L: Like said that out loud
591[2/25/2016 7:01:37 PM] The L: and realize how stupid it sounds
592[2/25/2016 7:01:47 PM] The L: and then realize that I can do it naturally because of where I live >:C
593[2/25/2016 7:02:11 PM] Ronni Usagi: I look at my phone and read that. Lol
594[2/25/2016 7:12:32 PM] Iculas: XD
595[2/25/2016 7:12:40 PM] Iculas: All of this all of my yes.
596[2/25/2016 7:22:26 PM] Sejuani: Diana.
597[2/25/2016 7:22:33 PM] Sejuani: We got more Diana lore and the Taric rework `^`
598[2/25/2016 7:22:35 PM] Sejuani: I am pleased.
599[2/25/2016 7:22:46 PM] Alexander: linku?
600[2/25/2016 7:22:47 PM] cold ravioli: taric rework?
601[2/25/2016 7:23:00 PM] Iculas: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/mount-targon/story.html
602[2/25/2016 7:23:18 PM] Alexander: he's gonna be from Targon now?
603[2/25/2016 7:23:18 PM] Sejuani: It's coming. I'll bet money that we get Aurelion Sol and Taric as the other two.
604[2/25/2016 7:23:34 PM | Edited 7:23:42 PM] Sejuani: Because they said Taric would be released just a few days after Sol.
605[2/25/2016 7:23:37 PM] Iculas: and Janna
606[2/25/2016 7:23:43 PM] Iculas: All my babies in one baaasket~
607[2/25/2016 7:23:51 PM] Iculas: Do it Riot. >:|
608[2/25/2016 7:24:01 PM] cold ravioli: Sometimes, I regret the improved lore
609[2/25/2016 7:24:05 PM] cold ravioli: Cuz it's all so long lately ;o;
610[2/25/2016 7:24:08 PM] cold ravioli: #first world problems
611[2/25/2016 7:24:26 PM] Sejuani: Illaoi's lore and all of the Bilgewater event was a bit long, but simply amazing to read.
612[2/25/2016 7:24:43 PM] cold ravioli: Exactly
613[2/25/2016 7:24:50 PM] The L: BELIEVE IN MY NOC THEORY
614[2/25/2016 7:24:51 PM] cold ravioli: but my laziness is like 'uggghhhh'
615[2/25/2016 7:24:51 PM] The L: PLEASE
616[2/25/2016 7:24:52 PM] Iculas: I agree. My babies. :3
617[2/25/2016 7:24:56 PM] The L: COME ON ;~;
618[2/25/2016 7:25:03 PM] cold ravioli: fun fact I just learned: rakkor don't live on the mountain
619[2/25/2016 7:25:17 PM] Iculas: I actually don't think I even bothered to finish the shadow isles one.
620[2/25/2016 7:25:20 PM] Sejuani: The Solari do!
621[2/25/2016 7:25:21 PM] Alexander: armor the color of winter snow at night
622[2/25/2016 7:25:31 PM] Alexander: Not the best description, lol
623[2/25/2016 7:27:12 PM] cold ravioli: I get it.
624[2/25/2016 7:27:21 PM] cold ravioli: Solari don't live at the top, interestingly.
625[2/25/2016 7:28:00 PM] cold ravioli: so.... the tribe that was being attacked in Bard's cinematic. They related to Targon?
626[2/25/2016 7:28:02 PM] The L: The top doesn't seem to really be explained consistently
627[2/25/2016 7:28:04 PM] The L: but at the same time
628[2/25/2016 7:28:19 PM] cold ravioli: climbing the mountain seems to be an allegory for reaching some sort of ascension.
629[2/25/2016 7:28:29 PM] The L: a part of me is thinking that because of the high alttitude that people's perception of time and space become warped
630[2/25/2016 7:28:42 PM] The L: its like people who trek up Mount Everest
631[2/25/2016 7:28:54 PM] The L: you get FUCKED without air near the peak
632[2/25/2016 7:28:57 PM] Alexander: A bit on the nose, but it works.
633[2/25/2016 7:29:19 PM] *** Iculas has left ***
634[2/25/2016 7:29:20 PM] cold ravioli: My guess is it's literal... oh, shit, what's the word. Apotheosis?
635[2/25/2016 7:29:33 PM] cold ravioli: wat?
636[2/25/2016 7:30:15 PM] Alexander: ???
637[2/25/2016 7:32:46 PM] Alexander: Personally, I feel there's been a bit too much metaphysical stuff added to the lore lately. This Aspect concept doesn't quite sit well with me, but I'll continue reading.
638[2/25/2016 7:37:45 PM] cold ravioli: Hmm.... not overly fond of panth's new lore. Though it is world-building, and that's cool
639[2/25/2016 7:37:49 PM] Sejuani: I think that was Icky leaving the channel because she hasn't read it yet?
640[2/25/2016 7:37:57 PM] Sejuani: And was trying to avoid any accidental spoilers
641[2/25/2016 7:37:58 PM] cold ravioli: no idea
642[2/25/2016 7:46:20 PM] Alexander: this new lore also removes any possibility of Pantheon and Leona being best friends as it pretty clearly states she must be quite a bit older than him.
643[2/25/2016 7:46:38 PM] cold ravioli: nah, have you read leona's lore yet?
644[2/25/2016 7:46:53 PM] Alexander: not yet. Was just reading Pantheons
645[2/25/2016 7:47:00 PM] cold ravioli: you'll see then
646[2/25/2016 7:47:15 PM] Alexander: says he was just a trainee while she's the leader of the Solari paladins already
647[2/25/2016 7:51:42 PM] Alexander: huh... I'm confused now
648[2/25/2016 7:52:39 PM] cold ravioli: I think they were pretty young during the duel. LIke, early teens.
649[2/25/2016 7:53:59 PM] cold ravioli: I think Bard is related to Targon. Not sure though.
650[2/25/2016 7:54:49 PM] Alexander: Well, yeah... but his lore still says he's just a trainee at the time of the attack
651[2/25/2016 7:55:02 PM] Alexander: but it says she's the leader at that time.
652[2/25/2016 7:55:47 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, but training, in the rakkor, seems like a life-long thing. At least most of their life. I could be wrong. It is a little vague.
653[2/25/2016 7:59:08 PM] Alexander: bit too vague
654[2/25/2016 7:59:52 PM] Alexander: Surprised that they made the Leona and Diana connection rather one tracked
655[2/25/2016 8:02:37 PM] cold ravioli: how so?
656[2/25/2016 8:03:50 PM] Sejuani: I know this a bit off topic, but I just have to say this.
657[2/25/2016 8:03:55 PM] Sejuani: I fucking adore Jigae soup ~_~
658[2/25/2016 8:04:12 PM] Alexander: I suppose that, given the Diana x Leona art they posted when Gay Marriage was approved, I figured that they would atleast give to something of a hint to that relationship.
659[2/25/2016 8:04:22 PM] Alexander: What's that, Sej?
660[2/25/2016 8:04:47 PM] cold ravioli: Ah, I see what you're saying.
661[2/25/2016 8:05:14 PM] Alexander: Like I'm not saying I approve or disapprove. Its just, I sort of expected them to add it. I don't know.
662[2/25/2016 8:06:12 PM] Sejuani: Pulled pork, Korean chili powder, fresh kimche, and soft tofu.
663[2/25/2016 8:06:41 PM] Alexander: Sounds yummy. Not a personal fan of kimche but I can see the appeal.
664[2/25/2016 8:07:19 PM] cold ravioli: I don't know that I've ever had kimche
665[2/25/2016 8:09:42 PM] The L: I've had homemade kimchi
666[2/25/2016 8:09:46 PM] The L: Good. Fucking. Lord
667[2/25/2016 8:09:52 PM] The L: that stuff is nasty to make
668[2/25/2016 8:10:05 PM] The L: but is surprisingly good depending on what you eat it with
669[2/25/2016 8:10:20 PM] cold ravioli: 'fermented' no thanks
670[2/25/2016 8:10:29 PM] Alexander: Oh baby
671[2/25/2016 11:04:10 PM] Ronni Usagi: Subject: Suihei
672Issue: Scrolling (Partly)
673Warning: Was issued in PM to condence a bit since she kept doing 3 lines per post. She just said sorry and will keep it calm.
674[2/26/2016 12:01:03 AM] *** Sejuani added Iculas ***
675[2/26/2016 10:25:52 PM] Sejuani: Okay.
676[2/26/2016 10:26:25 PM] Iculas: ?
677[2/26/2016 10:26:28 PM] Sejuani: I wanted to speak to you all. I'm actually getting complaints about Bilgewater Capt.
678
679I haven't enjoyed him doing this 'Pity me,' bullshit, but now other people are asking me to step in too.
680[2/26/2016 10:27:52 PM] Sejuani: He hasn't technically broken any rules outside of being of perhaps rule six, and that's hardly anything official. So, in this situation, should I try and speak to him? I know we all tried earlier, but should I try and step in in an informal matter and discuss how he's starting to annoy other patrons?
681[2/26/2016 10:28:53 PM] cold ravioli: If anything, I'd say j ust cite the 'not a soap box' rule and ask him to stop. If he continues, then yeah
682[2/26/2016 10:30:06 PM] Iculas: That would be the rule we should cite him for, but I'd be for handling this issue by addressing the real issue with him.
683[2/26/2016 10:30:24 PM] Iculas: .... words plz
684[2/26/2016 10:30:37 PM] cold ravioli: Which is what I've kinda been trying to do. Just... yknow, point out shiz, logic, what-not.
685[2/26/2016 10:31:17 PM] Sejuani: I'm willing to discuss his profile with him, and to try and assist him. But, he seemed more than reluctant earlier. I'll get right on it after walking the four walkie barkies.
686[2/26/2016 10:31:28 PM] cold ravioli: ha
687[2/26/2016 10:31:30 PM] cold ravioli: walkie barkies
688[2/26/2016 10:31:55 PM] cold ravioli: But yeah, he doesn't seem like he wants  solutions.
689[2/26/2016 10:32:17 PM] cold ravioli: If I may be overly blunt, he just seems like he wants everyone to feel bad for him and bend to his whims
690[2/26/2016 10:32:39 PM] cold ravioli: Hence why I think just citing the rule and telling him to stop might be the course of action :I I'd like to be wrong though!.
691[2/26/2016 10:34:47 PM] Iculas: It's a tough situation. He's doing this because he's frustrated, but you are right that he isn't willing to fix the problem because, most likely, that would mean facing the reality that he isn't being interesting.
692[2/26/2016 10:36:18 PM] Iculas: Anybody that complains about blue names gets little sympathy given how often the people seeing it approach blue names.
693[2/26/2016 10:36:33 PM] Iculas: About having a blue name I mean.
694[2/26/2016 10:36:41 PM] cold ravioli: yeah, I gotcha.
695[2/26/2016 10:42:13 PM] Alexander: Wouldn't such behavior constitute as soapboxing?
696[2/26/2016 10:42:30 PM] cold ravioli: It would, but we're trynna be nice, it seems
697[2/26/2016 10:45:15 PM] Sejuani: I'm back and about to approach him.
698[2/26/2016 11:29:04 PM] Sejuani: This guy...
699[2/26/2016 11:29:26 PM] cold ravioli: Sounds promising /s
700[2/26/2016 11:31:25 PM | Edited 11:43:58 PM] Sejuani: Warning Report: Bilgewater Capt  // Lokfarian Bezerker
701Subject: Consumer soap boxed about males getting no attention in the Inn and then proceeded to try and file a complaint regarding user harassment.  No grounds for harassment found. 
702Text Logs: http://pastebin.com/Ee8iqxYT
70319:18 to 19:51 logs: http://pastebin.com/FDhPYppL
704Screen Shots: 
7051) http://prntscr.com/a8hf7o
7062) http://prntscr.com/a8hfkf
7073) http://prntscr.com/a8hi4y
708[2/26/2016 11:31:48 PM | Edited 11:42:58 PM] Sejuani: [23:31]   Bilgewater Capt: Look. I get what you're doing, and I very much appreciate this. But Annie has already spoken to me. I don't think two mods need to contact someone when the situation is dead and gone now.
709
710
711You've spoken to him about soapboxing?
712[2/26/2016 11:32:22 PM] cold ravioli: I contacted him regading his claim that he was being harassed. I asked if he had logs, and he said that he did not. I told him that if it happened again, to please notify a mod, and make sure to get logs.
713[2/26/2016 11:32:37 PM] cold ravioli: I can get logs if you'd like.
714[2/26/2016 11:33:29 PM] Sejuani: Nope, no need. I already reviewed the logs.
715[2/26/2016 11:33:36 PM] Sejuani: You want to know what he's calling harassment?
716[2/26/2016 11:33:45 PM] cold ravioli: I suspected it was nothing, but yes.
717[2/26/2016 11:33:47 PM] Sejuani: [19:49] Lokfarian Bezerker: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joEAb_y7ZYA]You play black metal when playing Sion, all other genres are bad for that[/url]
718[19:49] Shyvana: [sub]Symphonic Black Metal is weak as fuck.[/sub]
719[2/26/2016 11:34:06 PM] cold ravioli: woooooooooooow
720[2/26/2016 11:44:02 PM] Sejuani: Updated with logs + screenshots
721[2/27/2016 12:03:23 AM] Iculas: Hmmmmm..... was that the end of the conversation, Sej?
722[2/27/2016 12:04:07 AM] Sejuani: Which line?
723[2/27/2016 12:04:49 AM] Sejuani: [23:39] Sejuani: Annie spoke to you earlier about harassment claim earlier tonight, Bilgewater Capt.   I approached you for a different reason but I'll consider this conversation over.
724
725?
726[2/27/2016 12:05:59 AM] Iculas: ..... I missed that, I blame the phone.
727[2/27/2016 12:08:11 AM] Sejuani: Let me guess, outside and smoking? =p
728[2/27/2016 12:09:15 AM] Iculas: Yeah. Which means I missed the notifications for some wonky reason. That happens sometimes when I have it plugged in.
729[2/27/2016 12:09:57 AM] cold ravioli: Add-on to the Bilgewater Capt stuff: http://prntscr.com/a8hn9e
730[2/27/2016 12:13:25 AM] Iculas: That strikes me as a complaint. :<
731[2/27/2016 12:14:44 AM] Sejuani: Are you serious.
732[2/27/2016 12:15:06 AM] cold ravioli: Yes. They contacted me.
733[2/27/2016 12:15:13 AM] *** cold ravioli turns off professionalism: they're a whiny bitch ***
734[2/27/2016 12:15:22 AM] *** cold ravioli turns it back on again. ***
735[2/27/2016 12:16:12 AM] Sejuani: Paragraphs? I looked into the harassment accusation because of his own statements.
736[2/27/2016 12:17:10 AM] Iculas: Yes they are, I noticed that myself. What concerns me, and please don't take this the wrong way, but we have two channel owners and it looks to me as if he just lodged a complaint against one of the owners to one of their subordinates. That's not how one lodges a complaint... anywhere in the world.
737[2/27/2016 12:17:24 AM] Sejuani: [22:59] Sejuani: I want to go ahead and make you aware, then. This will be recorded, and I'll be keeping our personal conversation for my own records and bookkeeping. I'm going to make it clear to the others that this subject has been discussed, and we'll proceed with any future incidents from there. [i]Okay?[/i] 
738[23:00] Bilgewater Capt: Yeah. But, I would like to point out that the jokes got very personal and did not stop for a good thirty minutes.
739[23:02] Bilgewater Capt: And not a single moderator stepped in, now I understand that it is hard to moderate the room a whole 100 percent of the time. But, when it comes to stuff like that, when someone is made to feel unwelcome like that it shouldn't be just mods that do something.
740
741I only looked into because of his own statements and complaints.
742[2/27/2016 12:23:11 AM] Sejuani: I'm going to presume the individual has had a rough day, and I'm not going to try to antagonize it. I won't message them and offer an explanation because I'm afraid it'll likely be perceived in the wrong way. Pending Ashe's decision, she can always follow up on it, but that would be her own decision to make. 
743
744I'd like to think the individual is simply having a sour night and it's small things adding up and making them feel much heavier than normal.
745[2/27/2016 12:23:37 AM] cold ravioli: They said as much several times
746[2/27/2016 12:23:42 AM] Sejuani: Exactly.
747[2/27/2016 12:23:42 AM] cold ravioli: When i was speaking with them.
748[2/27/2016 12:23:49 AM] Iculas: Honestly, we all knew that before anybody even spoke to him.
749[2/27/2016 12:24:53 AM] Sejuani: If you're complaining, you're normally complaining because either you've had a sour night or feel outraged by something.  It was well established he had a rough day beforehand.   But, if anyone feels that I was unprofessional, it should be brought up and addressed. 
750
751I'm hardly above fault and I can make mistakes as well as any user. 
752
753That's why we have two co-owners.
754[2/27/2016 12:25:38 AM] Iculas: You didn't. I was going to say something when I saw the first screenshot to offer advice, before I even realized how the situation would go, but you did nothing wrong in that instance.
755[2/27/2016 12:27:42 AM] Alexander: Haven't said much, but I have been reading through as best I can. I would agree. I see nothing unprofessional that you've done, ma'am.
756[2/27/2016 12:30:26 AM] Iculas: Considering how things went and that he essentially approached Annie to belly-ache about you I wasn't going to offer said advice because that would imply his complaint had any basis worth merit. It doesn't. He's in an emotional state and he's upset - he pretty much dealt with the warning and conversation with you much in the same way he has handled his frustration over not finding satisfying roleplay.
757[2/27/2016 12:32:19 AM] Sejuani: To be honest? I realize I was formal and not exactly emotional, Icky, which was the plan and basis. When I speak to someone as a moderator, I try to be as neutral and judicial as I can.   That's why I initially told him I had an informal and formal reason to speak to him.
758
759The informal was going to be offering to help him. I was still going to do that even after reviewing the logs. But due to how I perceived his connotation, and I was correct, it didn't seem like he'd be interested.
760[2/27/2016 12:35:14 AM] Iculas: I.... did I say something wrong? I didn't mean to imply I disapproved of anything you did in this situation.
761[2/27/2016 12:37:09 AM] Sejuani: Oh no no. I was explaining =p
762[2/27/2016 12:37:23 AM] Sejuani: Uh.. I was giving more detail was all.
763[2/27/2016 12:40:04 AM] Iculas: Sejuani. Please report to my office for reprimand. Bring wine, I already have exotic cheeses and gourmet bread. ;3
764[2/27/2016 12:42:11 AM] Iculas: But seriously, we'll just keep an eye out for this guy since we couldn't really do anything about the underlying problem in his current state. It's no biggie; it's on him to follow the rules.
765[2/27/2016 1:14:01 AM] The L: I am freezing my ass off in the middle of literally nowhere
766[2/27/2016 1:14:07 AM] The L: Send help
767[2/27/2016 1:14:16 AM] Iculas: NoooOoOOoOOoo sending chaps.
768[2/27/2016 1:16:34 AM] Alexander: assless ones
769[2/27/2016 1:18:16 AM] The L: What the f*** is with people traveling out to the middle nowhere to listen to country music
770[2/27/2016 1:18:21 AM] The L: It's too cold for this
771[2/27/2016 1:18:29 AM] The L: Stay at home
772[2/27/2016 2:24:47 AM] The L: and finally home
773[2/27/2016 2:24:49 AM] The L: ughhh
774[2/27/2016 2:25:03 AM] The L: I need to find a way to make these guys not send me out to the suburbs
775[2/27/2016 2:25:16 AM] The L: I'm starting to see weird shit on the road at night
776[2/27/2016 2:25:29 AM] The L: and I don't like the idea that I can be so sleepy that I have trouble staying awake at the wheel.
777[2/28/2016 11:09:36 PM] Sejuani: I'm already speaking to her.
778[2/28/2016 11:09:39 PM] Sejuani: If you want to
779[2/28/2016 11:09:48 PM] Sejuani: Ban Trick2G or speak to him one. Or, I'll do it in a second.
780[2/28/2016 11:10:03 PM] Ronni Usagi: I've already reported the profile
781[2/28/2016 11:10:06 PM] cold ravioli: He hasn't really done anything wrong. I am simply unclear on the 'real people' rule.
782[2/28/2016 11:10:20 PM] cold ravioli: So those aren't cool, or they are? Cuz trick has been around for the requisite amount of time.
783[2/28/2016 11:10:26 PM] Ronni Usagi: Trick2G has no wiki or does he have a verrifed facebook page
784[2/28/2016 11:10:33 PM] Sejuani: It's a violation of site rules.
785[2/28/2016 11:11:21 PM] Ronni Usagi: reported it already but feel free to mention something. '^ '  I'd nudge him but currently speaking with family
786[2/28/2016 11:11:27 PM] cold ravioli: He has a wiki, though not on wikipedia. How does one tell a verified facebook page from a non-verified one.
787[2/28/2016 11:11:40 PM] Ronni Usagi: I'll show you
788[2/28/2016 11:11:52 PM] Iculas: There will be a blue checkmark.
789[2/28/2016 11:12:01 PM] Ronni Usagi: his page: https://www.facebook.com/Tricky2g/
790Lady Gaga: https://www.facebook.com/ladygaga/?fref=ts
791[2/28/2016 11:12:28 PM] cold ravioli: oh, it's just a check mark
792[2/28/2016 11:12:28 PM] cold ravioli: weird
793[2/28/2016 11:12:31 PM] cold ravioli: but makes sense
794[2/28/2016 11:13:01 PM] cold ravioli: so... markiplier is game then. because he's verified.
795[2/28/2016 11:14:53 PM] cold ravioli: and he has a wikipedia page
796[2/28/2016 11:15:06 PM] Ronni Usagi: I could not find it, please share o.O
797[2/28/2016 11:15:48 PM] cold ravioli: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markiplier
798[2/28/2016 11:15:54 PM] Ronni Usagi: oh
799[2/28/2016 11:15:55 PM] cold ravioli: https://www.facebook.com/markiplier
800[2/28/2016 11:16:00 PM] Ronni Usagi: Thought you meant Trick2g
801[2/28/2016 11:16:04 PM] cold ravioli: no, he doesn't have one
802[2/28/2016 11:16:10 PM] cold ravioli: I was running a hypothetical to see if I understood
803[2/28/2016 11:16:10 PM] Ronni Usagi: yeah, I was like "the fuck"
804[2/28/2016 11:16:16 PM] Ronni Usagi: yeah, you could RP him
805[2/28/2016 11:16:25 PM] cold ravioli: so you need both? or just one?
806[2/28/2016 11:16:40 PM] Iculas: Just one to classify as a public figure for our purposes.
807[2/28/2016 11:16:45 PM] Iculas: errrr.... for the site's purposes.
808[2/28/2016 11:16:56 PM] Ronni Usagi: https://www.f-list.net/newspost/292/
809[2/28/2016 11:17:00 PM] Ronni Usagi: more info is there
810[2/28/2016 11:17:24 PM] cold ravioli: that seems to imply you need both
811[2/28/2016 11:20:45 PM | Edited 11:21:03 PM] Sejuani: I've been poked about the Trick2g ban.
812[2/28/2016 11:21:00 PM] Iculas: I banned them and they're discussing it with me.
813[2/28/2016 11:21:04 PM] Sejuani: I'm considering a public announcement along the lines of
814[2/28/2016 11:21:06 PM] Iculas: "Discussing."
815[2/28/2016 11:21:14 PM] Sejuani: In explanation of the Trick2G ban, it is a violation of the Public Figures rule set forth by F-List.  Because of that, and how all private rooms must adhere to the site rules, we had to remove it at this time.
816[2/28/2016 11:21:34 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, I know we're professionals, but do we really have to discuss things like that with obviously troll characters?
817[2/28/2016 11:21:35 PM] Ronni Usagi: Yeah, that's totes fine ' ^ '
818[2/28/2016 11:21:39 PM] Ronni Usagi: with me, that is
819[2/28/2016 11:21:49 PM] Sejuani: Icky, any input before I send it?
820[2/28/2016 11:21:57 PM] cold ravioli: I question the use of 'had'
821[2/28/2016 11:22:06 PM] cold ravioli: I'd say we 'chose' to.
822[2/28/2016 11:22:23 PM] cold ravioli: Unless your intention is to place blame elsewhere, which is totally fine.
823[2/28/2016 11:22:47 PM] Sejuani: I'll replace it with chose to, if Icky has no issue with it.
824[2/28/2016 11:23:12 PM] cold ravioli: also, maybe 'them' instead of 'it'
825[2/28/2016 11:23:51 PM] Iculas: Wait what?
826[2/28/2016 11:24:46 PM] Iculas: Don't pin that on the site's decisions. Historically we've banned the crap out of riot employees and pro-players for a long time, with the exception of one or two individuals that weren't a problem until they became a problem.
827[2/28/2016 11:24:58 PM] Sejuani: I'm rewording it, Icky, but was giving additional explanation.
828[2/28/2016 11:25:33 PM] Iculas: Especially when I've seen two arguments over the past twenty four hours involving trick2G. Look at the profile. Obvious Troll character. In the words of James Howlett: "Nuff said"
829[2/28/2016 11:25:37 PM] cold ravioli: HOnestly, I'd just say something akin to 'Blatantly Troll characters aren't welcome' albeit more gently and professionally worded.
830[2/28/2016 11:26:07 PM] The L: just don't make it complex and vague
831[2/28/2016 11:26:22 PM] The L: seriously the last thing we went is people trying to wordplay the rule to their advantage
832[2/28/2016 11:26:52 PM] cold ravioli: oh, ottie, maybe you can clarify. do you need EITHER a verified facebook page or a wikipedia page, or do you need BOTH
833[2/28/2016 11:27:10 PM | Edited 11:28:42 PM] Sejuani: In explanation of the Trick2G ban, the League of Legends Inn has never allowed profiles regarding Riot Staff or professional players. This was because of the trend for these characters to be blatant parodies, and we've received a number of complaints in the past. A profile clearly intended to troll has no place inside the Inn.
834
835More importantly, the recent changes to F-List's Code of Conduct clearly states the site's position on Public Figures. As a clear violation of the Code of Conduct and our room's own policies, it was banned at this time.
836
837This issue was presented to clarify for some users, who asked by private message.
838[2/28/2016 11:27:40 PM] cold ravioli: That sounds good to me.
839[2/28/2016 11:27:48 PM] Iculas: Remove the mention of the Code of conduct, please. This has nothing to do with that.
840[2/28/2016 11:28:12 PM] The L: I'd have to ask Dave or one of the more vet admins about the specific ruling and whether or not Trick2G falls under said ruling in order to be 100% sure because off of the top of my head the level of public celebrity we don't allow.
841[2/28/2016 11:28:37 PM] cold ravioli: well he doesn't have either of those things, so it's not really a question. I just wasn't sure if it was an EITHER or a BOTH.
842[2/28/2016 11:28:39 PM] Sejuani: In explanation of the Trick2G ban, the League of Legends Inn has never allowed profiles regarding Riot Staff or professional players. This was because of the trend for these characters to be blatant parodies, and we've received a number of complaints in the past. A profile clearly intended to troll has no place inside the Inn.
843
844As a clear violation of our room's own policies, it was banned at this time.
845
846This issue was presented to clarify for some users, who asked by private message.
847
848
849
850Better?
851[2/28/2016 11:28:41 PM] Iculas: Ottie, newspost. He doesn't make the criteria.
852[2/28/2016 11:31:32 PM] The L: oh joy
853[2/28/2016 11:31:39 PM] The L: Well just ban him from the Inn
854[2/28/2016 11:31:44 PM] cold ravioli: That's already done.
855[2/28/2016 11:31:48 PM] Ronni Usagi: He's already banned
856[2/28/2016 11:31:49 PM] Ronni Usagi: lol
857[2/28/2016 11:31:55 PM] The L: LET ME FINISH >:C
858[2/28/2016 11:32:11 PM] Ronni Usagi: NO >:U
859[2/28/2016 11:32:12 PM] cold ravioli: Well don't hit enter before you finish your thought >:U
860[2/28/2016 11:32:21 PM] Iculas: ^^^^
861[2/28/2016 11:32:32 PM] Iculas: All of that! >:U
862[2/28/2016 11:32:38 PM] The L: I was gonna say just ban him and if people are asking about the 'why' we can tailor the answer to state that we don't allow troll profiles specifically in the Inn.
863[2/28/2016 11:32:57 PM] *** The L was literally in the middle of typing when they responded! HE KNOWS T HEY ALL SAW IT! ***
864[2/28/2016 11:33:49 PM] cold ravioli: Anywhooo, I'm on the verge of passing out.
865[2/28/2016 11:34:11 PM] Ronni Usagi: Nighty night Annie
866[2/28/2016 11:34:15 PM] cold ravioli: Anyone need anyting for I fall in the general direction 'right' and hope I land on my bed?
867[2/28/2016 11:34:15 PM] Sejuani: *Subject:* Cheery Noxian
868Offense: Blatant racism and trolling
869Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/a9a63m
870Text Log: http://pastebin.com/gcrnWmsF
871
872Comments in question:
873[23:00] The Cheery Noxian: (yooooooooooo)
874[23:00] Iowa Kai: /me shakes Sona even more.
875[23:00] The Cheery Noxian: evangelion: congratulations
876[23:01] Niisa: But now who do we make fun of for not winning an oscar :/
877[23:01] Fathands: Spotlight. Literally who?
878[23:01] Iowa Kai: John cena?
879[23:01] Cougar of Kumungu: THE MEME IS DEAD
880[23:01] Iowa Kai: Best meme award.
881[23:01] Yakumo Yukari: What's Spotlight?
882[23:01] The Cheery Noxian: gimme a link to oscar live
883[23:02] Fathands: Did Spotlight won over Bridge of Spies, The Martian, Mad Max and The Big Short?
884[23:02] Fathands: Wow, okay.
885[23:02] The Cheery Noxian: link lads
886[23:02] Yakumo Yukari: Oh that's because it involved Child Sex rings and why that's bad.
887[23:03] Fathands: So basically, oscar bait.
888[23:03] Yakumo Yukari: Basically
889[23:03] The Cheery Noxian: http://hasleowonanoscar.com/
890[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: BLACK LIVES MATTER
891[23:04] Iowa Kai: \o/
892[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: lads we in fo ra good time HAhhaehHEAH xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
893[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: :-----------DDDDDDDDDD
894[23:04] Zed-: [sub]Can you please not?[/sub]
895[23:04] Trick2G: ZZ rots matter.
896[23:05] Trick2G: /me makes a political movement to save the little voidlings.
897[23:05] Sejuani: /me clears her throat, "[b]Ladies and gentlemen. Really?[/b] 
898[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: i honestly never knew oscars were so political!!!!!!
899[23:06] Trick2G: /me bows his head in the presence of Swackajuani.
900[23:06] Annie: They weren't up until this year.
901[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: row row fight the powa
902[23:06] Iowa Kai: [url=http://imgur.com/Rto82ky] sensual creampie... [/url]
903[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: black lives matter lads
904[23:07] Sejuani: Cheery, I'm telling you to stop.
905[23:07] Sejuani: [b]Do not[/b] make me repeat myself.
906[2/28/2016 11:34:23 PM] Sejuani: Yes.
907[2/28/2016 11:34:41 PM] Sejuani: I need an opinion on what to do with Cheery, because I feel a punishment is needed. Especially considering their response once spoken to.
908[2/28/2016 11:34:54 PM] The L: time them out for a couple days
909[2/28/2016 11:35:29 PM] Sejuani: They've been banned in the past for twenty four hour increments twice now, unless there's something in her record I've missed.
910[2/28/2016 11:35:34 PM] Sejuani: I feel a longer ban is required.
911[2/28/2016 11:36:11 PM] The Mangle: Give me one moment to read it over. But I'm inclined to agree with a longer temp ban.
912[2/28/2016 11:36:31 PM] Ronni Usagi: I need to read over it as well, but if this has kept happening... Longer is indeed needed
913[2/28/2016 11:36:33 PM] Iculas: Give her a week.
914[2/28/2016 11:36:45 PM] Sejuani: A week it is.  I was debating 3-7 days honestly.
915[2/28/2016 11:36:48 PM] cold ravioli: If I'm honest, her response doesn't seem that bad. They're not really being disrespectful... and I was more offended by the scrolling and obnoxiously long 'xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD' than the comments about black lives matter
916[2/28/2016 11:36:53 PM] Sejuani: I'd prefer to make it clear her behavior is intolerable.
917[2/28/2016 11:36:57 PM] cold ravioli: considering how politically charged the oscars are this year
918[2/28/2016 11:36:59 PM] Iculas: The last incident she got away with was refereeing to a female couch as the cook. That wasn't missed by me.
919[2/28/2016 11:37:06 PM] The L: Could do two weeks o3o
920[2/28/2016 11:37:12 PM] Iculas: ..... couch ~_~
921[2/28/2016 11:37:18 PM] Iculas: coach *
922[2/28/2016 11:37:37 PM] Sejuani: Actually, I thought someone spoke to her about that. Am I mistaken?
923[2/28/2016 11:38:01 PM] Sejuani: I don't see the formal logs of a conversation, but in the back of my mind, I swore someone said they were going to.
924[2/28/2016 11:38:55 PM | Edited 11:39:21 PM] Ronni Usagi: Sej, I just PM'd her about that. Also, I also thought someone spoke to her about it too, otherwise I would of
925[2/28/2016 11:39:13 PM] Sejuani: With scrolling, I typically warn publicly because then it's a reminder to everyone =p
926[2/28/2016 11:39:38 PM] Alexander: Fun times to return to.
927[2/28/2016 11:39:42 PM] Sejuani: But, we'll set a week long ban then if no one has any thoughts or opinions against it?
928[2/28/2016 11:39:55 PM] Alexander: reading over now
929[2/28/2016 11:40:30 PM] cold ravioli: I actually don't now that this specific instance is worthy of repercussion. Again, there was quite the racial tension surrounding the oscars this year. It was obnoxious, but I don't know about racist.
930[2/28/2016 11:41:33 PM] The L: its been a long time coming if you ask me
931[2/28/2016 11:42:11 PM] Alexander: Perhaps I'm missing some context but why exactly was she saying this to begin with?
932[2/28/2016 11:42:18 PM] The Mangle: I'm going to abstain my opinion on this. But a week or longer would be fine in my eyes.
933[2/28/2016 11:42:23 PM] cold ravioli: Because Leonardo Dicaprio won an oscar
934[2/28/2016 11:42:27 PM] Sejuani: Refer to the logs below the report, Alexander.
935[2/28/2016 11:42:42 PM] Sejuani: [23:03] The Cheery Noxian: http://hasleowonanoscar.com/
936[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: BLACK LIVES MATTER
937[23:04] Iowa Kai: \o/
938[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: lads we in fo ra good time HAhhaehHEAH xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
939[23:04] The Cheery Noxian: :-----------DDDDDDDDDD
940[23:04] Zed-: [sub]Can you please not?[/sub]
941[23:04] Trick2G: ZZ rots matter.
942[23:05] Trick2G: /me makes a political movement to save the little voidlings.
943[23:05] Sejuani: /me clears her throat, "[b]Ladies and gentlemen. Really?[/b] 
944[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: i honestly never knew oscars were so political!!!!!!
945[23:06] Trick2G: /me bows his head in the presence of Swackajuani.
946[23:06] Annie: They weren't up until this year.
947[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: row row fight the powa
948[23:06] Iowa Kai: [url=http://imgur.com/Rto82ky] sensual creampie... [/url]
949[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: black lives matter lads
950[2/28/2016 11:44:01 PM] Alexander: I did. Still just didn't understand why she said the Black Lives matter thing
951[2/28/2016 11:44:13 PM] cold ravioli: Because the oscars had a lot of racial tension leadin gup to them
952[2/28/2016 11:44:47 PM] cold ravioli: Since the representation of african americans in the oscars has been very one-sided, and there was discussion of basically trying to make up for the perceived institutionalized racism of the academy
953[2/28/2016 11:44:51 PM] Sejuani: The Oscars have had a lot of racial tension because of a black activist speaking against them. However, black lives matter has also become of the newest twitch memes in which they sarcastically say it after ____ opinion or statement.
954[2/28/2016 11:45:03 PM] Sejuani: "LET NASUS FARM. BLACK LIVES MATTER."
955[2/28/2016 11:45:34 PM] Sejuani: "USE TELEPORT TO GET TO KFC FASTER. BLACK LIVES MATTER."
956
957Just a few of the gems I've seen in the past few days alone ~_~
958[2/28/2016 11:45:45 PM] cold ravioli: The KFC one is racist. The nasus one is not. IMO
959[2/28/2016 11:46:05 PM] Sejuani: The Nasus one is not racist, Rav, but they're still turning a political and cultural movement into a meme.
960[2/28/2016 11:46:10 PM] Iculas: ....... he's a Dog.
961[2/28/2016 11:46:13 PM] Sejuani: Which is unacceptable, and offensive to those who care for it.
962[2/28/2016 11:46:15 PM] cold ravioli: Though, admittedly, who DOESN'T like fried chicken?
963[2/28/2016 11:46:45 PM] Alexander: Okay, so, to my understanding, because Leonardo won an award and the racial tension around it, Cheery randomly spouts that?
964[2/28/2016 11:46:48 PM] cold ravioli: True, but we don't ban people for cancer comments, and those are relatively common, and certainly offensive to some people. Not to single anyone out, but the question that comes forth is 'where is the line?'
965[2/28/2016 11:47:00 PM] cold ravioli: More or less, yes, Darius.
966[2/28/2016 11:47:26 PM] Sejuani: We've never approved of the cancer, Rav, but there's a thin line between acceptable and downright intolerable. Cheery clearly crossed that line.
967[2/28/2016 11:47:28 PM] Ronni Usagi: They've been offensive to me just because of my past based around cancer itself; but I also know it's a common term, doesn't make it any less wrong
968[2/28/2016 11:47:59 PM] cold ravioli: I'm not trying to single you out Eden, sorry for that. It was just the first example that came to mind. I found Cheery's outburst obnoxious. I did not find it racist.
969[2/28/2016 11:48:32 PM] Iculas: I've actually been waiting on that. Several times over the past week I've started to type "Come on now guys. Some of us in here might actually have cancer so stop reminding us of it because you don't like _____. Show some degree of tact."
970[2/28/2016 11:48:37 PM] Alexander: I don't find it racist either, but certainly unacceptable behavior.
971[2/28/2016 11:49:16 PM] Iculas: I found it racist but that's because unlike most people I live in a place where people get shot for spouting stupid racist shit.
972[2/28/2016 11:49:46 PM] Ronni Usagi: I did call someone out on the cancer topic tonight, that outcast shen (I hope I got that name right there) and I did say that the whole comment is rather distasteful just with anyone suffing any sort of illness
973[2/28/2016 11:50:13 PM] Alexander: its a flippant disregard for something that is very important and should be treated with respect, but I don't feel comfortable with treating ignorant childish behavior as hatred.
974[2/28/2016 11:50:25 PM] cold ravioli: I noticed that. I thought you handled it well, Eden.
975[2/28/2016 11:50:43 PM] Ronni Usagi: But, there was no rule on it so I didn't do anything other than comment.
976[2/28/2016 11:51:20 PM] cold ravioli: Well, you, as a person, experienced something that you found unpleasant, and politely and respectfully addressed the situation. No sarcasm here, honestly, congrats on being mature and adult-y about it. Like I said, I thought you handled it well.
977[2/28/2016 11:52:22 PM] Sejuani: I'll try to be more mindful about the term, and I do sincerely apologize Eden. Again, I apologize for using it.
978[2/28/2016 11:52:22 PM] cold ravioli: To the topic at hand, I don't really see how it could be racist. It's making fun of a social movement, I suppose, but outside of that? I'm still more bothered by the word stretching and scrolling.
979[2/28/2016 11:53:37 PM] Ronni Usagi: but, while I can see it as being viewed as rasist on Cherry, we also need to look at the history with the user/member of the Inn.
980[2/28/2016 11:54:03 PM] Alexander: From my point of view, I agree in the belief that I would not label it as racism. That being said, I would most certainly regard this as another case of their unacceptable behavior which has been consistent, if nothing else. I would put my voice in favor of a week long timeout.
981[2/28/2016 11:54:34 PM] Sejuani: I'm sorry, but I do sincerely believe it was racist. 
982
983[23:04]   The Cheery Noxian: BLACK LIVES MATTER
984[23:04]   The Cheery Noxian: lads we in fo ra good time HAhhaehHEAH xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
985[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: i honestly never knew oscars were so political!!!!!!
986[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: row row fight the powa
987[23:06] The Cheery Noxian: black lives matter lads
988
989"row row fight the powah"
990"black lives matter lads"
991
992Those last two comments alone reek of racism, even if it is childish mockery and not blatant hatred.
993[2/28/2016 11:55:30 PM] cold ravioli: It's belittling a social movement, certainly, but there's nothing derogatory about any black person in any of her comments. Also, isn't row row fight the power a gurren lagann reference?
994[2/28/2016 11:55:54 PM] Sejuani: It may be, Annie, but that's certainly not the origin.
995[2/28/2016 11:55:58 PM] cold ravioli: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/row-row-fight-the-powah
996[2/28/2016 11:56:39 PM] The Mangle: The song actually originates from the anime.
997[2/28/2016 11:56:51 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, it does.
998[2/28/2016 11:56:52 PM] The Mangle: And that's the only insightful thing I have to say. :x
999[2/28/2016 11:57:13 PM] cold ravioli: I guess it is rap, but it was made by Taku Iwasaki. I guess one could claim that Cheery wasn't using it in that context though
1000[2/28/2016 11:57:20 PM] cold ravioli: And was probably using it to further mock the movement.
1001[2/28/2016 11:59:19 PM] Sejuani: "Fight the power," is a phase that goes back to the Black Civil Rights movement.
1002
1003It's been immortalized in various media and "Row, row fight the powah" itself may come from the anime (I won't claim one way or another because I honestly don't know,) the phrase hardly originates from there.   But, if I'm the only one who perceived the comment as racist, then I'll happily step aside and drop the argument.
1004[2/29/2016 12:01:33 AM] Iculas: I just came back to complain about something but.... what the actual hell?
1005[2/29/2016 12:01:38 AM] Alexander: It borderlines it, certainly, but I think we're mostly just arguing details here when the main subject comes down to what do we do for Cheery's behavior. 
1006
1007Racist or not, it is completely unacceptable behavior and has been a common occurrence with her record. I move for the motion of a week long suspension.
1008[2/29/2016 12:01:50 AM] Sejuani: But, I will get us back on track then. 
1009
1010Are we taking action against Cheery Noxian? If her comments were not racist, are we going to punish her?
1011[2/29/2016 12:01:53 AM] cold ravioli: I'm, admittedly, a bit torn now. As I can see hwo it can be viewed as insensitive now. Probably not racist, but certainly not tasteful.
1012[2/29/2016 12:02:26 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah, I'm not arguing that action shouldn't be taken. That outburst was nothing short of obnoxious and disruptive, at best.
1013[2/29/2016 12:03:30 AM] Alexander: Would a vote be best to determine an outcome? I believe we're at something of an agreement already from what most of us have already said, but for formality's sake if nothing else than to be sure?
1014[2/29/2016 12:03:45 AM] Ronni Usagi: ^
1015[2/29/2016 12:04:07 AM] cold ravioli: Sure. Voting for a week suspension due to repeated, numerous infractions?
1016[2/29/2016 12:04:44 AM] Alexander: Correct.
1017[2/29/2016 12:05:04 AM] Alexander: I vote in favor, so that makes it 1 - 0
1018[2/29/2016 12:05:20 AM] The Mangle: I'm in favor of the week long ban.
1019[2/29/2016 12:05:24 AM] Sejuani: I vote in favor of punishment. 3-0
1020[2/29/2016 12:05:28 AM] Ronni Usagi: I'm in favor. 4-0
1021[2/29/2016 12:06:20 AM] cold ravioli: aye
1022[2/29/2016 12:06:42 AM] Alexander: That leaves Icky and Ottie, as I believe both Tryndamere and Zyra are asleep
1023[2/29/2016 12:06:44 AM] Iculas: I said a week to start. Of course I'm for aye
1024[2/29/2016 12:06:49 AM] cold ravioli: I think regardless of it being actually racist, or just insensitive, or whatever, that we all agree that it was unacceptable
1025[2/29/2016 12:07:45 AM] Iculas: I think I delivered them a final warning about being a shit in the channel less than twelve months ago. They made it at least eight or nine months and twice Cheery has come up in conversation.
1026[2/29/2016 12:08:13 AM] Alexander: more than that, I believe.
1027[2/29/2016 12:09:11 AM] cold ravioli: She gets like, incidental things. This is the first time I've seen them discussed at length, personally.
1028[2/29/2016 12:09:30 AM] cold ravioli: I'm sure there aer several reports that are tantamount to 'Told Cheery to stop being a shit'
1029[2/29/2016 12:09:54 AM] Sejuani: I referred back to my logs. She was issued a final warning in roughly August.  It's been over half a year since she's came up, but both incidents (that I'm aware of) have came up within the last two weeks. If she had been spoken to with the coaching comment, I'd be in line for a more harsh punishment.
1030[2/29/2016 12:10:38 AM] Sejuani: But considering this is their first offense in sometime, and we've always taken a stance of rehabilitation versus outright bans, I'd hope this sets her ass back on course. If she acts up again anytime soon, I will be among the first to discuss a multiple week or perma ban.
1031[2/29/2016 12:11:00 AM] cold ravioli: Sounds good to me.
1032[2/29/2016 12:11:05 AM] Iculas: [06:59 PM] The Cheery Noxian: a league where gold is actually real in path of exile.........
1033[06:59 PM] The Cheery Noxian: this kind of jewing, i dont like this
1034[06:59 PM] The Cheery Noxian: i dont like this one bit NotLikeThis
1035
1036^ Go ahead and tack that on there as well.
1037[2/29/2016 12:11:16 AM] cold ravioli: sorry for probably making things more complicated than they needed to be.
1038[2/29/2016 12:11:28 AM] Sejuani: I'll issue the ban now -_- 
1039
1040I'd like an opinion before I do though
1041[2/29/2016 12:11:29 AM] Sejuani: Anyone whose been a long term member of the League of Legends Inn knows that we aspire to be a casual and welcoming environment to all members of the room. As a moderation team, we try to foster a respectful atmosphere where people of all origins, opinions, and play styles can come together and enjoy a single thing they adore; League of Legends. At the end of the day, we are a community. We are a community of roleplayers interested in League of Legends and the world of Valoran, and all the characters it has to offer.
1042
1043[b]We are not Twitch chat.[/b]
1044
1045Offensive messages, memes, copy pastas, and more will not be tolerated. Racism, bigotry, sexism, and blatant trolling will result in a punishment and a potential ban from the League of Legends Inn.
1046
1047
1048
1049In explanation of the Trick2G ban, the League of Legends Inn has never allowed profiles regarding Riot Staff or professional players. This was because of the trend for these characters to be blatant parodies, and we've received a number of complaints in the past. A profile clearly intended to troll has no place inside the Inn.
1050
1051As a clear violation of our room's own policies, it was banned at this time.
1052
1053This issue was presented to clarify for some users, who asked by private message.
1054[2/29/2016 12:12:15 AM] cold ravioli: I'd change blatant 'parodies' to 'blatant trolls'
1055[2/29/2016 12:13:00 AM] Alexander: parodies seems fine to me
1056[2/29/2016 12:13:04 AM] *** cold ravioli shrugs. ***
1057[2/29/2016 12:13:12 AM] cold ravioli: Whichever you prefer. Just giving my input :D
1058[2/29/2016 12:13:26 AM] Ronni Usagi: I'd change it to blatant trolls as well
1059[2/29/2016 12:13:32 AM] Sejuani: Trolls it is.
1060[2/29/2016 12:13:41 AM] Sejuani: Or
1061[2/29/2016 12:13:45 AM] Sejuani: I could appeal to both
1062[2/29/2016 12:13:54 AM] Sejuani: blatant parodies and trolls, and....
1063[2/29/2016 12:14:04 AM] Alexander: that'll work
1064[2/29/2016 12:14:06 AM | Edited 12:14:49 AM] Ronni Usagi: ¿por qué no los dos?
1065[2/29/2016 12:14:19 AM] Sejuani: Any additional input before I ban hammer?
1066[2/29/2016 12:14:19 AM] Ronni Usagi: wait..
1067[2/29/2016 12:14:24 AM] Alexander: thank you little girl from the taco commercial
1068[2/29/2016 12:14:43 AM] cold ravioli: My concern is that I've no issue with parody in itself. I do have an issue with trolling. I consider them different. but that could just be my personal perception.
1069[2/29/2016 12:15:37 AM | Edited 12:15:47 AM] Sejuani: Anyone whose been a long term member of the League of Legends Inn knows that we aspire to be a casual and welcoming environment to all members of the room. As a moderation team, we try to foster a respectful atmosphere where people of all origins, opinions, and play styles can come together and enjoy a single thing they adore; League of Legends. At the end of the day, we are a community. We are a community of roleplayers interested in League of Legends and the world of Valoran, and all the characters it has to offer.
1070
1071[b]We are not Twitch chat.[/b]
1072
1073Offensive messages, memes, copy pastas, and more will not be tolerated. Racism, bigotry, sexism, and blatant trolling will result in a punishment and a potential ban from the League of Legends Inn.
1074
1075
1076
1077In explanation of the Trick2G ban, the League of Legends Inn has never allowed profiles regarding Riot Staff or professional players. This was because of the trend for these characters to be blatant parodies and trolls. A profile clearly intended to troll has no place inside the Inn.
1078
1079As a clear violation of our room's own policies, Trick2G was banned. 
1080
1081This issue was presented to clarify for some users, who asked by private message.
1082[2/29/2016 12:15:44 AM] Ronni Usagi: Seem them diffrent as well, a parody might be someone being like... -Name of AU here- Ahri and that could be something that is legit but the character can also be silly at times? But there is a fine line between seeing that, AND seeing a clear troll
1083[2/29/2016 12:16:01 AM] Sejuani: Thus "blatant parodies and trolls."
1084[2/29/2016 12:16:12 AM] Sejuani: Both traits.
1085[2/29/2016 12:16:21 AM] Ronni Usagi: yis
1086[2/29/2016 12:16:26 AM] cold ravioli: Considering the context, I think it's fine :D
1087[2/29/2016 12:16:35 AM] cold ravioli: Then again I was fine with version one, so....
1088[2/29/2016 12:16:53 AM] The Mangle: Indeed. It looks perfectly fine.
1089[2/29/2016 12:17:05 AM] Sejuani: And now? We do this `^` /gtimeout Cheery Noxian, 10080
1090[2/29/2016 12:17:47 AM] Ronni Usagi: o7
1091[2/29/2016 12:17:53 AM] Alexander: o7
1092[2/29/2016 12:18:01 AM] Sejuani: Quickly logging into actual chat
1093[2/29/2016 12:18:04 AM] Sejuani: and not slimCat
1094[2/29/2016 12:18:14 AM] Sejuani: because I don't want another slimCat actually only banned them for 1 minute
1095[2/29/2016 12:18:14 AM] Alexander: I can do it, if you need.
1096[2/29/2016 12:18:47 AM] The Mangle: Any of us can, really. :v
1097[2/29/2016 12:18:54 AM] Ronni Usagi: yeah
1098[2/29/2016 12:18:58 AM] cold ravioli: I can't. It's against my religion.
1099[2/29/2016 12:19:13 AM] Alexander: :|
1100[2/29/2016 12:19:17 AM] cold ravioli: STOP OPPRESSING ME
1101[2/29/2016 12:19:21 AM] cold ravioli:  /j
1102[2/29/2016 12:19:50 AM] Sejuani: Nah, I got it.
1103[2/29/2016 12:19:53 AM] Sejuani: Just need a second.
1104[2/29/2016 12:19:59 AM] Ronni Usagi: o7
1105[2/29/2016 12:20:12 AM] Alexander: 7o
1106[2/29/2016 12:20:15 AM] Alexander: OW, MY ARM
1107[2/29/2016 12:21:11 AM] Ronni Usagi: that mental image, pls no
1108[2/29/2016 12:21:53 AM] cold ravioli: It's like the cobra strike pose. Or a stereotypically homosexual pose. Maybe both.
1109[2/29/2016 12:22:40 AM] Sejuani: I'm dying for the day F-Chat releases a decent non-web client for the chat.
1110[2/29/2016 12:22:51 AM] Iculas: Sejuani. There is a help section in slimCat.
1111[2/29/2016 12:22:59 AM] The L: I dislike Slimcat
1112[2/29/2016 12:23:07 AM] *** Ronni Usagi same ***
1113[2/29/2016 12:23:25 AM] cold ravioli: I like it in concept, but I don't like how it looks, and I've heard unpleasant things as well.
1114[2/29/2016 12:23:27 AM] Iculas: I like it a lot, I just wish the person who ran it wasn't a shit so I could bugreport.
1115[2/29/2016 12:23:48 AM] Iculas: ... sorry, I'm a little pissy. This troll has spoiled my wine.
1116[2/29/2016 12:25:04 AM] *** Sejuani climbs into the wine glass to make it a bit sweeter, then `^` ***
1117[2/29/2016 12:25:09 AM] cold ravioli: I've been pissy all day \o/
1118[2/29/2016 12:25:58 AM] Sejuani: .... Wait a bloody second
1119[2/29/2016 12:26:13 AM] Alexander: ?
1120[2/29/2016 12:26:18 AM] Sejuani: Fuck my life.
1121[2/29/2016 12:26:20 AM] cold ravioli: Oh god, please don't say it's ban evasion.
1122[2/29/2016 12:26:25 AM] cold ravioli: On top of all that.
1123[2/29/2016 12:26:28 AM] Ronni Usagi: ....
1124[2/29/2016 12:26:34 AM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/a9ahew
1125[2/29/2016 12:26:43 AM] Sejuani: .... I forgot to include the :|
1126[2/29/2016 12:26:55 AM] Ronni Usagi: ....
1127[2/29/2016 12:26:58 AM] The L: I don't get it
1128[2/29/2016 12:27:00 AM] Ronni Usagi: Can I make fun of that
1129[2/29/2016 12:27:00 AM] cold ravioli: oh, you had me worried for a moment
1130[2/29/2016 12:27:03 AM] Ronni Usagi: just a little bit
1131[2/29/2016 12:27:05 AM] Iculas: She banned a nonexistent profile.
1132[2/29/2016 12:27:11 AM] Sejuani: :|
1133[2/29/2016 12:27:14 AM] Ronni Usagi: 11/10 :3
1134[2/29/2016 12:27:17 AM] Alexander: ......
1135[2/29/2016 12:27:17 AM] cold ravioli: I was worried you were gonna be like 'trick2g was a banned account trolololing us'
1136[2/29/2016 12:27:23 AM] Alexander: Must... not... laugh
1137[2/29/2016 12:27:36 AM] Sejuani: ... Does someone want to talk to Sona while I fix this?
1138[2/29/2016 12:27:36 AM] Iculas: Sejuani, that's what you get for switching clients.
1139[2/29/2016 12:27:41 AM] Sejuani: Q_Q
1140[2/29/2016 12:27:43 AM] Ronni Usagi: Mind if I do it, then?
1141[2/29/2016 12:27:46 AM] The Mangle: 5/7 Sejuani. Perfect. :L
1142[2/29/2016 12:27:57 AM] Sejuani: Sure, you can speak to Sona, Eden.
1143[2/29/2016 12:28:06 AM] Ronni Usagi: Annie just did
1144[2/29/2016 12:28:24 AM] Ronni Usagi: I meant the banning there
1145[2/29/2016 12:28:30 AM] cold ravioli: Oh, sorry, if I stole.
1146[2/29/2016 12:28:36 AM] Ronni Usagi: oh nah, you're fine
1147[2/29/2016 12:28:39 AM] Ronni Usagi: she'll listen to you over me
1148[2/29/2016 12:29:07 AM] cold ravioli: Well considering she didn't even acknowledge that I said anything.... oh well, as long as it doesn't continue
1149[2/29/2016 12:29:27 AM] Iculas: Subject: GTFO out my wine
1150http://pastebin.com/kjEk6TfR
1151[2/29/2016 12:31:47 AM] cold ravioli: 10/10 completely full of shit.
1152[2/29/2016 12:32:03 AM] Ronni Usagi: "but zzrotlives do matter"
1153[2/29/2016 12:32:09 AM] Ronni Usagi: Voidling*
1154[2/29/2016 12:32:42 AM] Iculas: I hope he pissed himself when I asked him if that was really the route he wanted to take.
1155[2/29/2016 12:32:43 AM] Sejuani: Well, my silliness aside, I feel like I missed a portion of the main chat's conversation. What was that about Ezreal's comment and banning people?
1156[2/29/2016 12:33:02 AM] Iculas: Pick your battles. It wasn't worth it.
1157[2/29/2016 12:33:17 AM] cold ravioli: He's being himself, and made a snide comment abou thow he runs a room of similar size and has never had to ban anyone.
1158[2/29/2016 12:33:40 AM] cold ravioli: Oh, right, professional. Minus the very first bit.
1159[2/29/2016 12:34:03 AM] Iculas: He didn't start making snide comments about us til we removed Caitlyn.
1160[2/29/2016 12:34:15 AM] cold ravioli: He was always a bit pompous though, if I'm perfectly blunt.
1161[2/29/2016 12:34:25 AM] cold ravioli: But that's besides the point. I think all is calm atm.
1162[2/29/2016 12:34:39 AM] Iculas: Now he does it just about every time, which shows he's just being a snot because I've seen him on alts in the channel and we haven't removed anybody.
1163[2/29/2016 12:35:06 AM] cold ravioli: Well, he said 'looks in the room' not 'come in the room.'
1164[2/29/2016 12:35:08 AM] Iculas: Pardon me but my level of fucks is running under the bottom of the bucket right now.
1165[2/29/2016 12:35:25 AM] cold ravioli: So there's no way to ascertain where his focus lies. Iiiin any cse, it's snide, but yeah, I think all's calm
1166[2/29/2016 12:36:20 AM] Sejuani: I'm currently drafting a note for The Cheery Noxian.   If someone doesn't mind, a peer review would be appreciated when I'm done.
1167[2/29/2016 12:36:44 AM] Alexander: I'd be happy to, though I'm sure most would as well.
1168[2/29/2016 12:36:51 AM] cold ravioli: I would but I was on the verge of passing out about an hour ago
1169[2/29/2016 12:36:59 AM] Alexander: Also, Ezreal was making snide shit remarks again?
1170[2/29/2016 12:37:20 AM] cold ravioli: just a remark about how he runs a room of similar size and has never had to remove anyone
1171[2/29/2016 12:37:32 AM] The Mangle: I'd be fine reading over it, Sej. '^'
1172[2/29/2016 12:38:48 AM] Alexander: This is the same little shit I reported from making that snide little backhand comment in his status after blatantly disregarding my warnings in the chat.
1173[2/29/2016 12:38:54 AM] Iculas: Spoilers: It's /tg/ chat
1174[2/29/2016 12:39:25 AM] cold ravioli: I've never been. Again, still being unprofessional as fuck, everything I've heard about that place is that it's a cess pool. Though the people who have mentioned it are certainly biased.
1175[2/29/2016 12:39:39 AM] Iculas: ..... wow maybe it is /tg/
1176[2/29/2016 12:39:50 AM] cold ravioli: Aaaaaaaaany whoooooo. I'mma pass out unless there's anything else Ineed to bitch about? :D
1177[2/29/2016 12:40:03 AM] Iculas: Yes. Skirts > pants
1178[2/29/2016 12:40:11 AM] The Mangle: ^Agreed
1179[2/29/2016 12:40:43 AM] Alexander: My shins need to stay warm
1180[2/29/2016 12:40:44 AM] cold ravioli: I live in montana. Skirts aren't an option for at least half the year. Unless you're a TRUE montanan, then it's 2 months a year
1181[2/29/2016 12:41:17 AM] Iculas: ^ I was just going to say even Braum looks sexy in a skirt and then you go and say something like that. +15 points
1182[2/29/2016 12:41:45 AM] Iculas: But seriously. I'm going to go pour out my wine and get something to rehydrate.
1183[2/29/2016 12:41:54 AM] cold ravioli: pour your wine out into your stomach
1184[2/29/2016 12:42:00 AM] Ronni Usagi: pff
1185[2/29/2016 12:42:07 AM] cold ravioli: then get the best hydrating drink: wine
1186[2/29/2016 12:44:16 AM] Alexander: I don't think...
1187[2/29/2016 12:44:21 AM] Sejuani: At this point, I'm following up with you because you needed to get offline and go to sleep. I wanted to inform you of our conclusion and make you aware of what it means. 
1188
1189Prior to tonight, you've been warned on multiple occasions. During your last major incident, you were informed it was your last and final warning. All infractions from here on out will be met with extreme discipline. At this time, we have decided to put a one week ban in place. You should be unbanned approximately 1:30 AM (EST) on March 7th, 2016.  If you should join the channel before your temporary ban has ran out, it will result in a permanent ban and a Global Operator will made aware of your ban evasion. 
1190
1191After your temporary ban has lapsed out, you're welcome to rejoin the channel and continue as a day to day member of our community. But any future infractions will be harshly punished. Within the past two weeks, your name has came up within the moderation chat multiple times. Once for sexism, and now twice for racist comments. Any form of racism, bigotry, or discrimination will not be tolerated. The League of Legends Inn is not Twitch chat.
1192
1193We've interacted on a one on one basis and I've discussed your behavior with you in the past. I'm aware of how you can behave, and how you can differ between right and wrong. 
1194
1195We're asking you to be more thoughtful and considerate about your actions in the future. If you have any questions or concerns, you're encouraged to respond to this Note. Alternatively, you can reach Ashe or myself online at any time by private message when we're present and online.
1196[2/29/2016 12:47:28 AM] Ronni Usagi: Perfect
1197[2/29/2016 12:49:24 AM] Alexander: Overall, seems concise, informative and stern without being aggressive about it. Only thing I could consider making a change is under mentioning that we're not Twitch chat. Granted we use it in our rules as a stance for what not to be, but we use it as an example for scrolling and memes, not for racism and bigotry. I understand that comments like that may be memes in twitch, but it also kind of gives to the credence that "hey if you want to act like that, go to Twitch" which is still tolerating the behavior but simply outside of our boundaries, rather than the fact that such behavior is just simply unacceptable.
1198[2/29/2016 12:52:10 AM] The Mangle: Alexander worded it best. Or at least better than I could.
1199[2/29/2016 2:12:32 AM] Iculas: ~_~
1200[2/29/2016 2:13:08 AM] Alexander: ?
1201[2/29/2016 2:14:53 AM] Iculas: I am going to follow the usual protocol with Cheery and note record any of this information properly. I believe I have a folder marked "drama" or "boobies" with a bunch of miscellaneous junk involving her, That tasted purple, and the previous owner of the Fountain. I will save this screenshot uuuuunndddeerrr..... Warframe screenshots in my steam folder.
1202[2/29/2016 2:16:50 AM] Alexander: She do something again or the previous stuff?
1203[2/29/2016 2:18:34 AM] Iculas: No, the previous stuff. I am going to pretend banning somebody form the Inn doesn't count as banning so I can say I made it through the night.
1204[2/29/2016 2:18:53 AM] *** Alexander pat pat ***
1205[2/29/2016 9:56:15 AM] cold ravioli: Very belated, Icky, but you didn't ban anyone. It's a suspension :D
1206[2/29/2016 12:04:54 PM] Iculas: Incorrect. After that I had to ban somebody several times. ;_;
1207[2/29/2016 12:06:58 PM] cold ravioli: awww :c
1208[2/29/2016 12:07:03 PM] cold ravioli: who? anyone I know?
1209[2/29/2016 12:31:50 PM] Iculas: I hope not !
1210[2/29/2016 12:32:08 PM] The L: I don't worry about banning people I know
1211[2/29/2016 12:32:24 PM] The L: I tell em all at the start that its not personal and that I expect better of em to know not to get banned
1212[2/29/2016 12:32:28 PM] The L: its such a simple thing
1213[2/29/2016 12:32:31 PM] The L: Don't be a dick
1214[2/29/2016 12:32:42 PM] The L: and yet time after time some people can't control that urge
1215[2/29/2016 12:32:45 PM] The L: THAT SENSATION
1216[2/29/2016 12:32:50 PM] The L: to break a rule
1217[2/29/2016 12:34:48 PM] cold ravioli: Nah, I was just curious. I wasn't worried it was like, a friend or something.  I was more curious if it related to the inn, or if I missed something, but looking back, it's obvious it wasn't, or there'd be logs.
1218[2/29/2016 12:36:58 PM] Iculas: Nonono nothing Inn related. I just don't like banning people or timing them out and it feels like I'm doing it every other night.
1219[2/29/2016 12:37:09 PM] The L: eh get used to it Icky
1220[2/29/2016 12:37:14 PM] The L: some people honestly have it coming
1221[2/29/2016 12:37:34 PM] The L: I don't like doing it either but that doesn't mean I'm not gonna do it to those who earned it
1222[2/29/2016 12:38:08 PM] The L: Also be happy you haven't had to deal with a rule lawyer yet
1223[2/29/2016 12:38:09 PM] The L: good god
1224[2/29/2016 12:38:20 PM] The L: You want annoying mod problems? That's gonna basically be it.
1225[2/29/2016 12:38:33 PM] The L: Or when someone you've banned sends in a Youtube video for their ban appeal
1226[2/29/2016 12:38:58 PM] cold ravioli: People need to learn that, while they may think that they didn't break the rules, that it's literally a mods job to determine whether or not you're in violation of the rules. It's not a trial.
1227[2/29/2016 12:39:25 PM] cold ravioli: It's not "I'm contacting you to decide if you fucked up." It's "I'm contacting you because you fucked up."
1228[2/29/2016 12:41:29 PM] Iculas: I have had to deal with a rule lawyer. Gods Ottie you should have seen last night's idiot sandwich. I approached him to tell him not to cuss at people when he's turned down for RP and I got an immediate "just know if you ban me I have a VPN"
1229[2/29/2016 12:41:50 PM] cold ravioli: That would ahve resulted in me instantly banning them, if I'm honest.
1230[2/29/2016 12:41:51 PM] The L: Oh
1231[2/29/2016 12:41:54 PM] The L: those fucks
1232[2/29/2016 12:41:57 PM] The L: mmmmmmmmmmmm
1233[2/29/2016 12:41:59 PM] The L: SO GUD
1234[2/29/2016 12:42:20 PM] The L: The fun part is just being really neutral about that
1235[2/29/2016 12:42:23 PM] cold ravioli: The effort it takes to use a vpn far surpasses the effort it takes me to click 'ban'
1236[2/29/2016 12:42:34 PM] The L: "We're going to just ban you again."
1237[2/29/2016 12:42:46 PM] cold ravioli: "Banning you is really easy, so bye."
1238[2/29/2016 12:42:49 PM] The L: I have a particular set of skills.
1239[2/29/2016 12:43:15 PM] The L: And if you end it now and leave peacefully I will not look for you and this all comes to a close.
1240[2/29/2016 12:43:44 PM] The L: If you ban evade however 
1241
1242I will look for you, I will FIND you, and I will ban you again.
1243[2/29/2016 12:44:34 PM] Ronni Usagi: omfg. XD
1244[2/29/2016 12:46:05 PM] The L: I wanna say most of the fun comes from interacting with folks
1245[2/29/2016 12:46:23 PM] The L: I can't tell you have many times people have told me I'm cool because I actually yap in public about silly things a lot of the time
1246[2/29/2016 12:46:30 PM] The L: I hate being super serious 24/7
1247[2/29/2016 12:46:34 PM] The L: its bad for my blood pressure
1248[2/29/2016 12:47:40 PM] Iculas: Well.... I find it hilarious that when I was telling him to submit to the age verification process I got the equivalent of "lol wow I got up to take a shit and you're still typing" yet now that I'm awake.... I see he's still trying to access the site.
1249[2/29/2016 12:47:54 PM] Iculas: This guy is an idiot.
1250[2/29/2016 12:48:28 PM] cold ravioli: They're probably an edgy 15 year old.
1251[2/29/2016 12:48:47 PM] The L: I hate explaining the verification process
1252[2/29/2016 12:49:06 PM] The L: to be fair that shit is legit hard to circumvent but I got lucky since a lot of my art was through FA notes
1253[2/29/2016 12:49:09 PM] cold ravioli: I don't think I'd be cut out for site-mod status
1254[2/29/2016 12:49:13 PM] The L: some people didn't get as lucky
1255[2/29/2016 12:49:47 PM] cold ravioli: Since I'm annoyed, greatly, and I'm just HEARING about it.
1256[2/29/2016 12:51:32 PM] The L: I get annoyed all the time
1257[2/29/2016 12:51:37 PM] The L: it'd be unnatural if I wasn't
1258[2/29/2016 12:51:44 PM] The L: people do stupid shit
1259[2/29/2016 12:51:55 PM] Iculas: Ottie, I don't explain it. I send them the link to the thinga-ma-jigger and then tell them I wouldn't recommend it unless they have a problem with people stealing their art.
1260[2/29/2016 12:52:13 PM] The L: All I know is
1261[2/29/2016 12:52:18 PM] The L: if I ever see someone using Ottie
1262[2/29/2016 12:52:23 PM] The L: I'm just gonna art block their profile
1263[2/29/2016 12:52:27 PM] The L: CAUSE FUCK THAT >:C
1264[2/29/2016 12:52:43 PM] Iculas: brb making Dottie
1265[2/29/2016 12:52:52 PM] The L: someone beat you to it
1266[2/29/2016 12:52:57 PM] Iculas: ROFL
1267[2/29/2016 12:53:05 PM] The L: and I already told em I'd ban em on sight if they actually did it
1268[2/29/2016 12:53:16 PM] The L: If I ain't gonna get respected
1269[2/29/2016 12:53:21 PM] The L: I will be feared >:C
1270[2/29/2016 12:53:52 PM] The Mangle: I respect you Ottie. :Y I respect you and your ability yo no secure kills.
1271[2/29/2016 12:53:57 PM] The L: I AM THE TIK THAT SPARKS IN THE NIGHT!!!
1272[2/29/2016 12:54:06 PM] The L: I AM THE THING THAT USES UP YOUR DATA PLAN IN A SINGLE WEEKEND
1273[2/29/2016 12:54:10 PM] The L: I. AM. OTTIE.
1274[2/29/2016 12:54:24 PM] The L: >:C
1275[2/29/2016 12:54:29 PM] The L: You know what? Fine
1276[2/29/2016 12:54:37 PM] The L: I'll fucking do what everyone has been bugging me about doing
1277[2/29/2016 12:54:42 PM] The L: fucking play Lee Sin all the damn time
1278[2/29/2016 12:54:57 PM] The L: if only to prove a point when it comes to a Feast or Famine situation
1279[2/29/2016 12:55:06 PM] The L: I don't like Feast or Famine
1280[2/29/2016 1:02:46 PM] Iculas: That is exactly why I don't play Leona despite how much I love her.
1281[2/29/2016 1:06:29 PM] cold ravioli: Why play Leona when you can play Naughty Lust.
1282[2/29/2016 1:06:50 PM] The L: Cause I wanna play Naut jungle
1283[2/29/2016 1:07:02 PM] The L: which APPARENTLY doesn't work anymore for some reason
1284[2/29/2016 1:07:06 PM] The L: oh wait I know why!
1285[2/29/2016 1:07:08 PM] cold ravioli: It works fine.
1286[2/29/2016 1:07:27 PM] The L: Cause like Morgana once he got into being played support everyone forgot he could fucking jungle atall
1287[2/29/2016 1:08:11 PM] cold ravioli: I've a friend who plays Naut all over. Top. Mid. Support, Jungle. Just not adc.
1288[2/29/2016 1:08:33 PM] The L: I tried Naut top
1289[2/29/2016 1:08:39 PM] The L: .....for the first time ever
1290[2/29/2016 1:08:41 PM] The L: ho boy
1291[2/29/2016 1:08:52 PM] *** The L went 1/10/7 ***
1292[2/29/2016 1:08:58 PM] The L: fucking embrassed myself
1293[2/29/2016 1:09:05 PM] cold ravioli: Did you force early trades and assert your dominance as big daddy?
1294[2/29/2016 1:09:39 PM] The L: Sorta? I got told to just kinda focus on farming and only trade when I was getting harassed and had W up.
1295[2/29/2016 1:10:00 PM] cold ravioli: Nah. You need to let everyone know that it's YOUR lane, and you're only allowed some gold via your fleeting benevolence.
1296[2/29/2016 1:10:18 PM] The L: Do I have to take teleport?
1297[2/29/2016 1:10:22 PM] cold ravioli: I actually have no idea how it works, I just know that choy seems to make it work on the regular.
1298[2/29/2016 1:10:28 PM] The L: Seriously me and Teleport don't get along well
1299[2/29/2016 1:10:32 PM] cold ravioli: Ideally, yes, since Naut's strength is team fighting.
1300[2/29/2016 1:11:44 PM] The L: Ideally I can actually ward to a spot and not get interrupted and make a difference bottom lane or mid
1301[2/29/2016 1:12:02 PM] The L: I don't have enough map awareness in some games and when I'm fucking up I tend to focus on just not dying
1302[2/29/2016 1:12:22 PM] cold ravioli: If you don't wanna tp and wanna play top, play like, tryndamere.
1303[2/29/2016 1:12:35 PM] cold ravioli: Or fioraatroxdamere
1304[2/29/2016 1:13:59 PM] The L: That's why I played Quinn last night
1305[2/29/2016 1:14:14 PM] cold ravioli: They're duelists/about split pushing.
1306[2/29/2016 1:14:14 PM] The L: all she is is push push push
1307[2/29/2016 1:14:17 PM] cold ravioli: ja
1308[2/29/2016 1:14:21 PM] cold ravioli: that's not really what naut does
1309[2/29/2016 1:14:33 PM] The L: and unlike the first time I tried her I actually got in pretty deep
1310[2/29/2016 1:14:45 PM] The L: but my build wasn't exactly made to take out a Trundle or Sion tank
1311[2/29/2016 1:15:08 PM] cold ravioli: Well, pretty much most people can't duel trundle
1312[2/29/2016 1:17:12 PM] The L: I was doing okay early game
1313[2/29/2016 1:17:19 PM] The L: got a lot of lucky Quinn passives off
1314[2/29/2016 4:05:01 PM] Sejuani: [Monday, February 29, 2016 1:08 PM] cold ravioli: 
1315
1316<<< I've a friend who plays Naut all over. Top. Mid. Support, Jungle. Just not adc.Choy Burrito! Who is surprisingly lewd. I did not expect this. 
1317
1318Anywho, good afternoon folks.
1319[2/29/2016 4:05:25 PM] cold ravioli: .... I'm surprised that that surprised you. She's hella lewd.
1320[2/29/2016 6:10:02 PM] Alexander: Super hella lewd
1321[2/29/2016 6:10:12 PM] Alexander: and a scrub lord at Dark Souls
1322[2/29/2016 6:10:51 PM] cold ravioli: She convinced me to play the first one, after hassling me about it for months, on and off. Was well worth, what a fantastic game.
1323[2/29/2016 6:16:27 PM] Alexander: Dark Souls are the best.
1324[2/29/2016 6:16:42 PM] Alexander: Beats all the rest. `^`
1325[2/29/2016 6:16:47 PM] cold ravioli: I havne't played two, or bloodborne, but I was truly impressed by 1. Enough where I'm hyped for 3.
1326[2/29/2016 6:17:07 PM] Alexander: You have no idea how badly I am waiting for 3
1327[2/29/2016 6:17:41 PM] Alexander: I was a complete idiot and spent the money necessary to buy a PS4 just to get my grubby paws on Bloodborne
1328[2/29/2016 6:17:48 PM] Alexander: worth every penny, I say.
1329[2/29/2016 6:18:13 PM] cold ravioli: Bloodborne looked pretty good to me.
1330[3/3/2016 6:27:24 PM | Edited 6:27:53 PM] Sejuani: Im Fucking Crazy
1331Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/aawmxu
1332Text Logs: http://pastebin.com/2RQpv4dK
1333User got mad after an ARAM gone sour with another user and said she was blocking him. Nobunaga- asked me what he could do in that situation and if he'd be in trouble and made me aware of the situation. After reviewing the logs, I approached Im Fucking Crazy.
1334
1335She seemed remorseful and I doubt she'll be a repeat offender. 
1336[3/3/2016 6:33:21 PM] Alexander: Seems like it's pretty settled. Poor judgment is all.
1337[3/3/2016 6:47:49 PM] Alexander: We've got another John Cena account
1338[3/3/2016 6:48:06 PM] cold ravioli: Troll of someone actually rping as John Cena?
1339[3/3/2016 6:48:26 PM] Alexander: My assumption is troll
1340[3/3/2016 6:48:40 PM] cold ravioli: What's the profile look like?
1341[3/3/2016 6:49:03 PM] Alexander: https://www.f-list.net/c/ITSJOHNCENA
1342[3/3/2016 6:49:07 PM] Alexander: Ashe just saw them
1343[3/3/2016 6:49:18 PM] cold ravioli: yyyyyyeah
1344[3/3/2016 6:49:20 PM] cold ravioli: that's troll
1345[3/3/2016 6:49:20 PM] Ronni Usagi: I come back to that as well. welp..
1346[3/3/2016 6:49:28 PM] Sejuani: Ban.
1347[3/3/2016 6:49:31 PM] Sejuani: No warning, outright ban.
1348[3/3/2016 6:49:33 PM] Alexander: Roger.
1349[3/3/2016 6:49:58 PM] Alexander: Nevermind. Ashe did it.
1350[3/3/2016 6:49:59 PM] Iculas: [18:49] System: ITSJOHNCENA was banned from ADH-1b4d1ce1c09a3f6ec2aa by Ashe.
1351[3/3/2016 6:50:04 PM] Iculas: Problem solved.
1352[3/3/2016 6:50:13 PM] Alexander: You never let me have any fun >:c
1353[3/3/2016 6:50:19 PM] Sejuani: [b]We discussed this just the other day. Profiles blatantly meant to troll or meme is not tolerated within the League of Legends Inn. This is not Twitch Chat.[/b]
1354[3/3/2016 6:50:25 PM] Sejuani: About to send this through as a warning.
1355[3/3/2016 6:51:16 PM] Iculas: The skype conversation called my attention, all I saw was "troll". I didn't really have to read up, I just tabbed over.
1356[3/3/2016 6:53:13 PM] Alexander: duly noted for future reference.
1357[3/3/2016 6:53:52 PM] Iculas: [Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:49 PM] Alexander: 
1358
1359<<< Ashe just saw themGodzilla screeching noises >:V
1360[3/3/2016 6:54:05 PM] Alexander: lol
1361[3/3/2016 6:54:08 PM] Ronni Usagi: XD
1362[3/3/2016 6:54:19 PM] Iculas: Glitter has forever changed my life.
1363[3/3/2016 6:54:34 PM] cold ravioli: Huh?
1364[3/3/2016 6:55:31 PM] Iculas: Glitter, the global operator Glitter. He's been a mod for the site longer than I've been on the site.
1365[3/3/2016 6:55:38 PM] Sejuani: One of the other Globals.
1366[3/3/2016 6:55:45 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah.
1367[3/3/2016 6:55:55 PM] Iculas: As opposed to the dusty stuff that is like the devil to get out of anything.
1368[3/3/2016 6:56:08 PM] Alexander: how'd they do that
1369[3/3/2016 6:56:11 PM] cold ravioli: How have they changed your life? That was more the source of my confusion.
1370[3/3/2016 6:56:29 PM] Alexander: made you into Godzilla?
1371[3/3/2016 6:57:27 PM] Ronni Usagi: I remember being that age
1372[3/3/2016 6:57:28 PM] Ronni Usagi: it's normal
1373[3/3/2016 6:57:41 PM] Ronni Usagi: Some times you just gotta go Godzilla to let out your emotions
1374[3/3/2016 6:58:00 PM] cold ravioli: Some people just want to be dinosaurs
1375[3/3/2016 6:58:33 PM] Alexander: lol
1376[3/3/2016 7:03:32 PM] Iculas: Oh. The Godzilla screeching. #ThingsGlitterSays Things I cannot unsee! Oh the horror! :U
1377[3/3/2016 7:04:05 PM] Iculas: Remember he's a tiny faerie dragon so picture that doing th-yeah now I'm over-explaining it.
1378[3/3/2016 7:04:18 PM] cold ravioli: nah I gotcha
1379[3/4/2016 3:03:55 PM] Ronni Usagi: Tryndamere, if you're around, (Seeing as how you have a looking status you are); do you want to kick and talk to him?
1380[3/4/2016 3:05:03 PM] Ronni Usagi: I ask because I need to start cleaning up
1381[3/4/2016 3:05:16 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: i'm just sitting back down, let me catch up on all of this really quick
1382[3/4/2016 3:05:30 PM] Ronni Usagi: Cigara, I just got done telling them all this isn't twitch chat
1383[3/4/2016 3:05:41 PM] Ronni Usagi: fuck, I need to start cleaning, I'll brb
1384[3/4/2016 3:06:05 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I got it, don't worry
1385[3/4/2016 3:07:49 PM] cold ravioli: Did I miss something?
1386[3/4/2016 3:08:29 PM] cold ravioli: I'm not seeing the egregious behavior?
1387[3/4/2016 3:10:08 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: It's the icon posting after Eden asked to tone things down I think, I'm talking with Cigara right now - I don't think there was too much out of line but chat was getting pretty twitch chatty
1388[3/4/2016 3:10:19 PM] cold ravioli: he posted one eicon
1389[3/4/2016 3:10:55 PM] cold ravioli: I don't really see how that's spamming eicnos
1390[3/4/2016 3:12:15 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Never said it was spamming, but it was after she asked to tone things down in general, not just with icons and he didn't really regard her message
1391[3/4/2016 3:12:19 PM] Ronni Usagi: back, been informed we are leaving later. And it was the fact I just told them to stop twice now
1392[3/4/2016 3:12:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: Once when I woke up, another 20-30 minutes later
1393[3/4/2016 3:16:08 PM] cold ravioli: Huh. Well it's bein ghandled, I won't interfere.
1394[3/5/2016 1:18:16 AM] The Mangle: https://www.f-list.net/c/chicks%20dig%20elo
1395Thoughts? The user isn't being particularly disruptive or outright trolling. But is clearly oriented to be a joke or gag character. If need be I can speak to them, but I figured asking for an opinion would be better before taking action.
1396[3/5/2016 1:19:01 AM] Ronni Usagi: that icon has an under age person
1397[3/5/2016 1:19:42 AM] Sejuani: I'm strongly considering a ban.
1398[3/5/2016 1:19:55 AM] Ronni Usagi: Mangled, could you please report that profile for undage icon
1399[3/5/2016 1:20:04 AM] The Mangle: Aye-aye
1400[3/5/2016 1:20:05 AM] Ronni Usagi: underage* fingers pls
1401[3/5/2016 1:20:26 AM] Ronni Usagi: report it via profile, not chat
1402[3/5/2016 1:21:58 AM] Ronni Usagi: oh
1403[3/5/2016 1:21:58 AM] Sejuani: Report sent.
1404[3/5/2016 1:22:03 AM] Ronni Usagi: THEN I READ THE PAGE ITSELF
1405[3/5/2016 1:22:14 AM] *** Ronni Usagi backs away ***
1406[3/5/2016 1:22:46 AM] The Mangle: Welp. Glad I brought him to everyone's attention. :v
1407[3/5/2016 1:23:05 AM] Sejuani: No, Ashe and I was discussing him on PoE.
1408[3/5/2016 1:23:14 AM] Sejuani: I was already revving up the orbital ban hammer.
1409[3/5/2016 1:25:00 AM | Removed 1:25:47 AM] Josh Hirschbeck: This message has been removed.
1410[3/5/2016 1:25:32 AM] Josh Hirschbeck: oops, wrong group, darn tablet
1411[3/5/2016 1:25:50 AM] Ronni Usagi: lol
1412[3/5/2016 1:25:58 AM] Josh Hirschbeck: T_T
1413[3/5/2016 1:26:07 AM | Edited 1:27:40 AM] Sejuani: The proof of his failure must live on: https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftlore/comments/48xfsh/warcraft_chronicles_prerelease_thread/
1414[3/5/2016 1:26:28 AM] Josh Hirschbeck: Sejuani, please ;_;
1415[3/5/2016 1:26:58 AM] Iculas: .....
1416[3/5/2016 1:35:33 AM] Sejuani: As an update, I'm speaking to him now.
1417[3/5/2016 1:37:55 AM] Sejuani: Or... It seems the site exploded?
1418[3/5/2016 1:38:02 AM] cold ravioli: yup
1419[3/5/2016 1:38:04 AM] cold ravioli: just died for me
1420[3/5/2016 1:38:23 AM] The Mangle: One by one. Everyone I knew bit the dust. :y
1421[3/5/2016 1:38:37 AM] cold ravioli: QUICK, EVERYONE TRY TO RECONNECT ALL AT ONCE
1422[3/5/2016 1:38:41 AM] Ronni Usagi: Rub my ashes on my Kylo ren doll please
1423[3/5/2016 1:38:44 AM] cold ravioli: DON'T GIVE UP, REFRESH REFRESH
1424[3/5/2016 2:15:59 AM] Iculas: Hopefully it'll be up soon. Somebody finally made the final neko that broke the servers. They're trying to isolate and remove a neko to get it back up.
1425[3/5/2016 11:57:16 AM] The L: https://twitter.com/PuppetMasterIX/status/705878281736708096
1426[3/5/2016 6:58:16 PM] The L: So this is slightly troubling
1427[3/5/2016 6:58:52 PM] Sejuani: I didn't mention anything beforehand.
1428[3/5/2016 6:58:57 PM] Sejuani: Because I figured it was just the website.
1429[3/5/2016 6:59:05 PM] Sejuani: But it said I didn't own half my names anymore on my character list.
1430[3/5/2016 6:59:17 PM] Iculas: ?
1431[3/5/2016 7:00:40 PM] Sejuani: My character list didn't show certain characters when I last logged in.
1432[3/5/2016 7:00:43 PM] Sejuani: In between the crashes.
1433[3/5/2016 7:01:05 PM] Iculas: So I'm assuming you two got each other unbanned before the server went down?
1434[3/5/2016 7:01:13 PM] Sejuani: Yeah =p
1435[3/5/2016 7:01:19 PM] The L: Yah she was back in there when we left
1436[3/5/2016 7:01:26 PM] The L: didn't you see all the castration threats?
1437[3/5/2016 7:01:33 PM] The L: by the way you two need a new damn hobby
1438[3/5/2016 7:01:36 PM] The L: Take up Tennis
1439[3/5/2016 7:01:41 PM] The L: that involves balls you can hit
1440[3/5/2016 7:02:15 PM] Sejuani: "It's a threat of turning a long, passionate, and utterly messy blow job into a juicy dinner."
1441[3/5/2016 7:38:04 PM] Ronni Usagi: I'd be willing to name trade as well
1442[3/5/2016 7:38:07 PM] Ronni Usagi: Putting that out there
1443[3/5/2016 7:38:10 PM] *** Ronni Usagi sick doll ***
1444[3/5/2016 7:38:38 PM] Sejuani: Name trade? `^` What?
1445[3/5/2016 7:38:54 PM] Ronni Usagi: y-yeah, thought you were giving up names
1446[3/5/2016 7:39:02 PM] *** Ronni Usagi just woke up and took meds, ignore please ***
1447[3/5/2016 7:39:24 PM] Sejuani: I was saying half my character list wasn't showing up :|
1448[3/5/2016 7:39:29 PM] Ronni Usagi: ohhhhh
1449[3/5/2016 7:39:42 PM] *** Ronni Usagi goes to pass out again, ignore pls ***
1450[3/5/2016 7:40:14 PM] The L: >_>
1451[3/5/2016 7:40:15 PM] The L: Why
1452[3/5/2016 7:40:19 PM] The L: WHY IN FRONT OF ME :~;
1453[3/5/2016 7:40:26 PM] Ronni Usagi: wha
1454[3/5/2016 7:41:16 PM] *** The L has seen the backend of Wonderland when it comes to people who have traded a lot of names also happen to get into a lot of trouble. ***
1455[3/5/2016 7:41:28 PM] The L: and then having to retrace the steps on who's who
1456[3/5/2016 7:41:36 PM] *** Ronni Usagi didn'know that was ever an issue, tbh ***
1457[3/5/2016 7:41:48 PM] The L: No one ever does
1458[3/5/2016 7:41:57 PM] Ronni Usagi: well, noted now '^ ' ;;
1459[3/5/2016 7:41:59 PM] The L: most won't know until they have to deal with it themselves
1460[3/5/2016 7:42:02 PM] The L: and then
1461[3/5/2016 7:42:04 PM] The L: ONLY THEN
1462[3/5/2016 7:42:34 PM] The L: will they see why I look upon that stuff with the same disdain as a peanut butter sandwich
1463[3/5/2016 7:43:10 PM] Ronni Usagi: I like peanut butter though
1464[3/5/2016 7:43:14 PM] Ronni Usagi: ' ^ ';;
1465[3/5/2016 7:43:20 PM] Sejuani: `^` I'd ignore Ottie.
1466[3/5/2016 7:43:21 PM] Ronni Usagi: brb, running to the store for more meds @_@
1467[3/5/2016 7:43:23 PM] The L: that shit almost killed me once
1468[3/5/2016 7:43:36 PM] Sejuani: He's made of rage and ignorance.    In fact? Go trade a name to Prince Jarvan. Nothing bad could ever happen.
1469[3/5/2016 7:43:45 PM] Ronni Usagi: omg
1470[3/5/2016 7:43:53 PM] Ronni Usagi: the poor soul who did that
1471[3/5/2016 7:44:00 PM] The L: I swear to fucking god
1472[3/5/2016 7:44:00 PM] The L: NO\
1473[3/5/2016 7:44:02 PM] The L: NO
1474[3/5/2016 7:44:07 PM] Sejuani: DO IT EDEN
1475[3/5/2016 7:44:08 PM] Sejuani: DOOOO IT
1476[3/5/2016 7:44:10 PM] Sejuani: DON'T BE A PUSSY
1477[3/5/2016 7:44:13 PM] Sejuani: LIVE YOUR DREAMS
1478[3/5/2016 7:44:16 PM] The L: BE A PUSSY
1479[3/5/2016 7:44:17 PM] Ronni Usagi: I WILL NOT GIVE INTO PEER PRESURE
1480[3/5/2016 7:44:17 PM] Sejuani: AND YOUR WILDEST FANTASIES
1481[3/5/2016 7:44:19 PM] The L: LIVE IN YOUR FEAR
1482[3/5/2016 7:44:25 PM] Ronni Usagi: I AM A STRONG
1483[3/5/2016 7:44:28 PM] Ronni Usagi: DOLL
1484[3/5/2016 7:44:32 PM] Ronni Usagi: WHO DON'T NEED NO erm..
1485[3/5/2016 7:44:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: Prince Jarvan
1486[3/5/2016 7:44:42 PM] The L: motherfucker I will steal your feathers and poke your eyes out
1487[3/5/2016 7:44:48 PM] Ronni Usagi: NO
1488[3/5/2016 7:44:51 PM] cold ravioli: .... feathers?
1489[3/5/2016 7:44:53 PM] Ronni Usagi: Quin gave me those
1490[3/5/2016 7:44:56 PM] Ronni Usagi: you cannot take them.
1491[3/5/2016 7:45:03 PM] Ronni Usagi: but rael, med time, brb, store
1492[3/5/2016 7:45:03 PM] cold ravioli: oh, ic stuff
1493[3/5/2016 7:45:04 PM] cold ravioli: nvm
1494[3/5/2016 7:45:10 PM] Iculas: What the fuck did you two eat today?
1495[3/5/2016 7:45:18 PM] The L: What DIDN'T you eat today?
1496[3/5/2016 7:45:24 PM] Sejuani: I HAD SUGAR
1497[3/5/2016 7:45:26 PM] Sejuani: HOW ABOUT YOU?
1498[3/5/2016 7:45:44 PM] The L: I had  Chipotle
1499[3/5/2016 7:45:48 PM] Iculas: Ten pounds of sugar. >:|
1500[3/5/2016 7:46:58 PM] Sejuani: But no.
1501[3/5/2016 7:47:04 PM] Sejuani: I'm actually hungry as fuck.
1502[3/5/2016 7:47:08 PM] Sejuani: And I should go cook.
1503[3/5/2016 7:47:17 PM] Sejuani: But, I'm comfy. I washed all my blankets and bedding today.
1504[3/5/2016 7:47:28 PM] Sejuani: And I'm just wrapped up in my comforter and in my recliner `^`
1505[3/5/2016 7:49:18 PM] cold ravioli: order food
1506[3/5/2016 7:49:23 PM] cold ravioli: and give instructions to bring it inside
1507[3/5/2016 7:54:27 PM] Sejuani: ... I think I shall.
1508[3/5/2016 7:56:04 PM] cold ravioli: xD
1509[3/5/2016 7:58:53 PM] The L: man delivers fees where you guys are must be hella cheap o3o
1510[3/5/2016 7:59:13 PM] The L: if we did that here we'd be paying like 20-30 dollars for a pizza.
1511[3/5/2016 7:59:31 PM] cold ravioli: weird
1512[3/5/2016 8:00:25 PM] Sejuani: Uh wat
1513[3/5/2016 8:00:30 PM] Sejuani: This is my bill, Ottie
1514[3/5/2016 8:00:31 PM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/abqssx
1515[3/5/2016 8:01:00 PM] Sejuani: How much are you paying for delivery?
1516[3/5/2016 8:10:08 PM] Alexander: So I'm out of town and haven't been home most of the day
1517[3/5/2016 8:10:15 PM] Alexander: is F-Chat down?
1518[3/5/2016 8:10:21 PM] Sejuani: Yes.
1519[3/5/2016 8:10:33 PM] Alexander: Oh. Yeah its right on the front page.
1520[3/5/2016 8:11:00 PM] *** Alexander headdesks. What two seconds of looking would have done. ***
1521[3/5/2016 8:13:58 PM] The L: I'm not even sure Sej
1522[3/5/2016 8:14:07 PM] The L: we don't pay for delivery
1523[3/5/2016 8:14:17 PM] The L: we just pick it up ourselves because we don't wanna get it delivered
1524[3/5/2016 8:14:30 PM] The L: well that and some of the places nearby here might have nervous drivers
1525[3/5/2016 8:14:32 PM] The L: cause you know
1526[3/5/2016 8:14:38 PM] The L: Bullets are scary
1527[3/5/2016 11:21:25 PM] The L: yeesh
1528[3/5/2016 11:21:38 PM] The L: is Blue Ezreal the ONLY build that's viable right now?
1529[3/5/2016 11:21:45 PM] The L: or are people to lazy to do anything else?
1530[3/5/2016 11:21:47 PM] cold ravioli: no
1531[3/5/2016 11:21:50 PM] cold ravioli: it's just popular again
1532[3/5/2016 11:22:17 PM] The L: I just won a ranked game after 40 minutes but our Ez doesn't really do much until 25 mins in
1533[3/5/2016 11:22:32 PM] cold ravioli: #blue build ezreal things
1534[3/5/2016 11:22:34 PM] The L: I'm kinda surprised we killed Vayne and Brand in lane
1535[3/5/2016 11:22:42 PM] The L: Also fuck Brand support
1536[3/5/2016 11:24:48 PM] The L: Got that S- though
1537[3/5/2016 11:25:05 PM] cold ravioli: brand support is cruel
1538[3/6/2016 4:13:22 PM] Sejuani: [15:58]   Mythical Ao Shin: Ah, there you are. I have something I wish to discuss with you.
1539[15:58]   Sejuani: Oh? Please, go ahead. 
1540[15:59]   Mythical Ao Shin: Well, earlier I was joking around about why no one thought to organize some RP League games for the inn's amusement, and some people, while noting how difficult it might be, were actually on board with the idea. I came to talk to you to see if it were possible ot organize such an event for the Inn.
1541[16:00]   Sejuani: Could you expound? Some additional detail and clarity could go a long way. 
1542[16:04]   Mythical Ao Shin: Well, it would work that the Inn would sign up to 10 people to start a group RP of a game of League of Legends. Characters would be decided by what profile they decided to use during the event, and teams would discuss in private what roles they wanted each person to fulfill. Laning phase could take place in private chats representing each lane in the jungle, and each team could have a private chat to discuss what was happening in each lane, and kills/objective taking would be announced publicly in the Inn nby an admin. And to prevent cheating, an admin would oversee each lane and give permission for ganking and such. After laning phase, they could group in the main chat and come together to act out the rest of the game. Also, for OCs that wish to participate, the overseeing admins have the permission to administer buffs or nerfs as they see fit.
1543[16:10]   Sejuani: It's a possibility, I suppose. I could present the idea to our moderator chat and see if any of our moderators would be interested in running something along those lines. But, it'd be realistically up to the ten players involved. The moderator's only real goal would be just to GM and idly post updates in the Inn time to time. Nonetheless, I'll share your suggestion in our chat and see how the others take it.   Did you have anything else you wanted to add onto that? Or, any adjustments you'd like to mention? 
1544[16:11]   Mythical Ao Shin: You guys can adjust and add rules as you see fit, like I said, this is honestly just an idea I had that other people seemed to like. Thank you for taking it into consideration.
1545
1546
1547I personally don't see it going well due to the blatant risk of meta gaming and god modding actions, but I thought I'd bring it before you all to chew over.
1548[3/6/2016 4:15:50 PM] cold ravioli: I personally don't care for on-rift rp of any kind.
1549[3/6/2016 4:16:42 PM] Iculas: It's been suggested before and didn't go very well. Nobody wants to play against that diamond three Vayne x_x
1550[3/6/2016 4:16:55 PM] cold ravioli: The suggestion is IC, not ana ctual game.
1551[3/6/2016 4:17:00 PM] Sejuani: He wanted it completely roleplayed from what I could tell. Not an actual game.
1552[3/6/2016 4:17:10 PM] cold ravioli: Which is WORSE, in my opinion.
1553[3/6/2016 4:17:18 PM] Iculas: Somebody did approach me the other day about setting up a Inn discord channel but I felt really iffy about that as well.
1554[3/6/2016 4:17:19 PM] cold ravioli: I don't care for the idea, at least in the sense of it being ran by the room.
1555[3/6/2016 4:17:32 PM] cold ravioli: Is that even allowed, as per the f-list rules?
1556[3/6/2016 4:17:39 PM] Ronni Usagi: I would be willing to host it :x
1557[3/6/2016 4:18:09 PM] Ronni Usagi: No, there are a lot of F-list groups outside of flist o.O; like with the steam group
1558[3/6/2016 4:18:10 PM] Iculas: No. I think it would be an awful idea because we're based on a fetish site.
1559[3/6/2016 4:18:32 PM] cold ravioli: It's one thing to have like, an in-game group thing. but discord is more akin to making a skype group
1560[3/6/2016 4:18:35 PM] Ronni Usagi: because if that's the case, the RWBY room does have a public discord for theroom to use
1561[3/6/2016 4:18:59 PM] cold ravioli: I only mentioned it, because I know f-list has some rules about like, irl/ooc stuff
1562[3/6/2016 4:20:41 PM] Sejuani: Before I slap him, I'd like a quick second opinion.
1563[3/6/2016 4:21:01 PM] Sejuani: [16:17]   Sona - MaidenOfMusic: Kat, I Don't think I can at the moment. @-@ In pain.
1564[16:18]   Sona - MaidenOfMusic: And why not Sonny the S- wait wait. I should stop now. 
1565[16:18]   Xerath the Trap: Heh, I'm just happy with you. And if you need somewhere to put your cock, I'm always free.
1566[16:19]   The Infernal Nasus yawns.
1567[16:19]   Olivia Ferris puts a muffin in Nasus' mouth.
1568[16:20]   Young Jungle Kat: Well later! After work! We try it in bots a few times ^^
1569[16:20]   The Infernal Nasus prays to himself that it isn't chocolate.
1570[16:20]   F enrir: cunt boys ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
1571[3/6/2016 4:21:38 PM] cold ravioli: I'd ignore it, and see if it happens again
1572[3/6/2016 4:21:41 PM] Sejuani: First time he's said anything all day in my logs.
1573[3/6/2016 4:22:00 PM] cold ravioli: It's not ideal, but something something let boys be boys etc other cliches
1574[3/6/2016 4:39:32 PM] cold ravioli: Just a note: I asked Spike da Dragon to not refer to people as 'tards.'
1575[3/6/2016 4:39:35 PM] cold ravioli: Want an official thing?
1576[3/6/2016 4:39:58 PM] Sejuani: I think you'll be fine. If they make a record of it, just make sure you properly remember it.
1577[3/6/2016 4:40:22 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, it was pretty much a non event. They referred to people as tards, I said 'Let's not do that' and they said 'okay.'
1578[3/6/2016 4:40:42 PM] Iculas: Sounds good! \o/
1579[3/7/2016 3:02:10 AM] Ronni Usagi: Reporting Chum the Waters and Nobunaga -
1580Chatlogs http://pastebin.com/Sixjj9ui
1581
1582Couldn't get all the logs for Nobunaga - but he had been posting icons he's been making. I saw it happening but I was in a game and couldn't reply right away
1583[3/7/2016 3:02:22 AM] Ronni Usagi: Told both of them off in the channel itself
1584[3/7/2016 5:39:23 AM] Ronni Usagi: ---------------
1585
1586User Nobunaga -
1587Room Logs http://pastebin.com/7JNKgG6b
1588Private http://pastebin.com/PEYJzyvj
1589
1590TL;DR
1591He posted an icon again and I was going to let it pass since it was just the one but I was informed by another user that he's been posting them. I was offline at this time because I was switching to the Laptop from the PC and could not get them and they had DCd right after informing me. the Kennen had also asked him to stop as seen in the room logs; I pulled him into private after he said that icons were not in the chat rooms about them not being posted, said you can post icons but to not do it so often as he has been; mostly because this had JUST been a topic with him hours before.
1592[3/7/2016 2:35:49 PM] Iculas: Twice in one day, shortly after I've had to speak with them. This reeks of intentionally being a shit.
1593[3/7/2016 3:12:03 PM] Sejuani: This may come off as biased, but I spent some time talking to Nobunaga- earlier today. When I did, I didn't get the impression that he was trying to intentionally act up.  He strikes me as a younger and somewhat depressed individual whose too accustomed to Twitch Chat at this point. 
1594
1595From what I can tell, he is newish to our community. I'm not aware of any alts he has beyond Nobunaga-, and his status is actively along the lines of "Trying to make new friends."
1596[3/7/2016 3:13:29 PM] cold ravioli: If I had to guess, I'd guess that they're the one's getting caught, or the ones who just take it too far.
1597[3/7/2016 3:23:13 PM] Iculas: We'll see, it's all been minor so far and that we can tell but I've got my eye on him.
1598[3/7/2016 3:23:53 PM] Sejuani: Anywho dorks, I'll be gone for tonight. I likely won't be back until 10-11PM, and I'll be leaving in roughly a hour and a half. Probably get ready a bit before that.
1599[3/7/2016 3:26:23 PM] Iculas: Aye aye! o7
1600[3/8/2016 2:41:01 PM] Sejuani: This is not a drill `^` I repeat, this is not a drill. 
1601
1602http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/03/65-patch-notes.html#more
1603Clubs come out with patch 6.5.   If anyone is on, snag the League of Legends Inn >:c
1604[3/8/2016 2:41:23 PM] The L: 1 sec...
1605[3/8/2016 2:41:28 PM | Edited 2:41:38 PM] Sejuani: Patch occurs on 3:00 AM PST on NA.
1606[3/8/2016 2:41:29 PM] The L: Lemme see if I can get this to work
1607[3/8/2016 2:41:45 PM] Iculas: Shouldn't be hard for me.
1608[3/8/2016 2:42:44 PM] The L: oh right
1609[3/8/2016 2:42:49 PM] The L: the patch isn't out yea =w=
1610[3/8/2016 3:19:32 PM] Iculas: "Clubs have space for up to 49 of your fellow pollution fighters (cap may be adjusted)"
1611[3/8/2016 3:20:17 PM] Iculas: THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE Clubs are designated by unique tags that appear next to members’ summoner names, both in and out of game
1612[3/8/2016 4:04:51 PM] Sejuani: I imagine we'll grab Inn?
1613[3/8/2016 6:14:42 PM] The L: Ima call it the cabin
1614[3/8/2016 6:15:10 PM] The L: Cause of all the fevers I get being stuck in the same room as you people >:(
1615[3/8/2016 6:15:29 PM] The L: Good God it's like we live in the dark ages!
1616[3/8/2016 6:15:32 PM] Ronni Usagi: Is cabin feer a thing?
1617[3/8/2016 6:15:48 PM] The L: WITH NO PANTS
1618[3/8/2016 6:15:53 PM] cold ravioli: cabin fever is a thing, yes
1619[3/8/2016 6:15:56 PM] Ronni Usagi: oh...
1620[3/8/2016 6:15:58 PM] The L: ^
1621[3/8/2016 6:16:03 PM] *** Ronni Usagi opens google ***
1622[3/8/2016 6:16:11 PM] The L: Learning!
1623[3/8/2016 6:16:29 PM] Ronni Usagi: oh neat
1624[3/9/2016 3:05:52 PM] Sejuani: So, clubs are supposedly meant to be live as of 3 AM.... But, aren't up yet.
1625[3/9/2016 3:05:53 PM] Sejuani: Great.
1626[3/9/2016 3:06:12 PM] cold ravioli: woo \o/
1627[3/9/2016 3:06:36 PM] Iculas: Yes I figured that out around five or six.
1628[3/9/2016 3:06:54 PM] Sejuani: I was simply clarifying it for everyone. I admittedly went to bed super early last night =p
1629[3/9/2016 3:09:15 PM] The Mangle: They should be up in a few days. Just keep an eye out for them :P
1630[3/10/2016 9:39:31 PM] cold ravioli: Air Mistress Janna says clubs are now available, they think? I don't know how tocheck
1631[3/10/2016 9:43:13 PM] Iculas: It's not in client yet.
1632[3/10/2016 9:43:38 PM] cold ravioli: aoh, okay
1633[3/10/2016 9:43:46 PM] cold ravioli: seems they weren't all that informed, and had just heard abou tit
1634[3/10/2016 9:43:46 PM] cold ravioli: nbd
1635[3/10/2016 9:51:07 PM | Edited 9:51:28 PM] Iculas: Tell them the co-owners are on it and that Ashe said thank you. Clubs are why I wasn't too keen on trying to setup a discord thingie for the Inn just yet.
1636[3/10/2016 10:07:23 PM] cold ravioli: yeah, pretty much did that
1637[3/11/2016 4:52:49 PM] Ronni Usagi: Tryn, why were they kicked?
1638[3/11/2016 4:55:46 PM] Ronni Usagi: As ou said in pm, it was a joke... WE're not supposed to kick people as a joke.
1639[3/11/2016 4:56:10 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: they asked me to. people have done it before.
1640[3/11/2016 4:56:17 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: i know them.
1641[3/11/2016 4:56:26 PM] Ronni Usagi: but then you see the chaos it makes
1642[3/11/2016 4:56:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: joke, friends or not..
1643[3/11/2016 4:57:05 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: i don't really see chaos aside from before I told miyu to stop scrolling.
1644[3/11/2016 5:00:10 PM] Ronni Usagi: http://pastebin.com/9JniXp0G Logs, title is the starting point; I'd fight this with you right now but it's been 24 hours and I've yet to sleep; I'm just more disapointed than anything
1645[3/11/2016 5:00:33 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: People have done it before. People have kicked themselves and others as a joke. Go ahead and combat me if you'd like to.
1646[3/11/2016 5:02:25 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: It was simply fun, noone's freaking out about it.
1647[3/11/2016 5:12:15 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: a post of the following chaos, or moreso normal conversation - http://pastebin.com/fbiR65Lj
1648[3/11/2016 6:02:27 PM] Iculas: You know... the last time I saw somebody using the kick/ban function as a joke it left an incredibly foul taste in my mouth. That was Ottie and Sej shortly after the servers came back online and there was less than 2,000 people signed into the chat. I was still disappointed to see that.
1649[3/11/2016 6:03:01 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Alright. I completely understand, and I won't do it again.
1650[3/11/2016 6:03:22 PM] cold ravioli: Dayum, the 'disappointed' line.
1651[3/11/2016 6:03:28 PM] cold ravioli: Seems a bit much.
1652[3/11/2016 6:19:35 PM] Iculas: You know, after the chat crashes there is generally a bit of light hearted tom foolery while everybody is signing back in. People post sinks in the Inn, pictures of humans in Vore, Orc pix in the Elven channels, ect. Aside from that most recent display from Sej and Ottie it has been a long time since I've seen an Inn moderator misuse one of their tools.
1653[3/11/2016 6:25:34 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: It happened to me personally years ago, though I don't recall which moderator it was. And while it is misusing, I'd hardly categorize it into anything other than light fun. Moderators have kicked themselves somewhat recently. A month-ish ago, maybe? Not even. It was a train of two or three of them iirc. Streak the Bobcat, Ottie and another, I think. That's also technically misusing. And while I do understand that you are "disappointed," I have said that it won't happen again, and it's honestly nothing other than playful fun. Aside from the scolling that I did point out and ceased to happen at any point after that, there was no chaos. Everyone returned to normal conversation. Most of the people in the Inn likely enjoy some light messing around from time to time, and those which I "misused" my tools on were friends/acquaintances of mine. If anyone of the regular users had any sort of issue with what I did, I will personally apologize to them.
1654[3/11/2016 6:26:10 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: And it's not going to happen again.
1655[3/11/2016 6:30:20 PM] The L: I was going to comment but in hindsight I'm a little out of the loop to see what happened.
1656[3/11/2016 6:31:00 PM] cold ravioli: I only commented because I found the use of "I'm disappointed" rather over the top and extreme. It could have easily just been 'please don't do that' rather than a scolding.
1657[3/11/2016 6:31:33 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I just kicked a friend that dared me to from the Inn.
1658[3/11/2016 6:31:36 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: That's literally all I did
1659[3/11/2016 6:32:11 PM] The L: Well just tell em rule notwithstanding that you'd kick em to the moon
1660[3/11/2016 6:32:17 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: ^
1661[3/11/2016 6:34:23 PM] The L: But being disappointed over something like that is while extent understandable in a serious situation I don't think it's right to say it here. But that's my 2 cents
1662[3/11/2016 6:35:14 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Yeah, that's what I mean - Eden decided to try and shame me or something. I totally get that it's not something I should technically do, nor would I ever abuse my power in a wrong way at all. It's not going to happen again, no worries on that
1663[3/11/2016 6:39:15 PM] Sejuani: I'm going to be blunt and fairly concise on the subject. I've been aware of the kicks since they happened and have been watching F-List all day long. I saw nothing wrong with the actual kick, nor do I believe it was taken in ill will. However, there is two sides to this. There will be a side which sees it as playful and a side which argues it as an abuse of moderation tools. 
1664
1665Both sides have an equal right to express themselves, but both sides should and will be polite.  
1666
1667Just as we expect mutual respect among the Inn members, it is expected here in the moderation chat. Even if we might disagree on this or that, we should strive to at least civil. We're going to butt heads. We're going to have differing opinions. But, that is needed for a room to function. 
1668
1669Now, as for Diana's comments, I believe it would be best to drop the discussion on that. While I find them extremely pointed, she is the room owner.  She does have a right to dictate what's right and wrong, and does in all technicalities trump even me. If she chose to fire me, I wouldn't be able to do a thing when it boiled down to it. If Diana wishes us to avoid joking kicks, then it's fairly clear what our policy should be from here on out unless we want to have an actual discussion on it. And even then, it'd be a fairly quick and pointless one that'd likely be shut down in less than a ten or twenty minutes.
1670[3/11/2016 6:40:22 PM] cold ravioli: Sounds good to me.
1671[3/11/2016 6:44:30 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: absolutely. When Ashe said she was disappointed, I took it to heart - with her being room owner I'm going to respect her opinion and I'm not going to do something that she doesn't condone. I'm a very easygoing individual when it comes to getting along with people even if I don't have the same mindset as them, and I'm happy to both offer my opinion on what I did but also realize that some people might not like what I do. And that's totally cool with me. I'm not a big fan of how Eden decided to try and embarrass me in front of everyone, but hey, she's of the mindset that what I did was wrong and, with her as a Moderator, noone's immune from a Moderator's opinion, even a fellow mod like me. I'm not taking anything personally and everything's cool. I hope people are having a nice Friday evening!
1672[3/11/2016 11:00:02 PM] Ronni Usagi: I know the topic is dead but I just wanted to share why I posted it in the skype chat. This was not something I felt I could leave in private when it was a mod issue I had with you; I don’t hate you, hell I did think it was funny but it just shouldn’t of been done was all. I was frustrated because when people see those that are trying to enforce the rules, act like that then things might not happen right away or at all but it makes us look like we’re not doing what we’re supposed too. I tend to scroll now and then, and I admit that when it happens that it’s wrong of me.
1673
1674I never meant harm to you, but it was an issue I had and wanted to bring it up with the rest because it shouldn’t be hidden. I was disappointed and frustrated that it happened. I’m sorry it embarrassed you, Tryn; it was not my intention; but I was bringing it in the open that I had a problem. ‘ ^ ‘ No blood, just the stated!
1675[3/11/2016 11:00:12 PM] *** Ronni Usagi also added it because just woke up ***
1676[3/11/2016 11:01:37 PM] cold ravioli: Eh, I get ya, but typically, it's good to remember that we're all adults here, and we wouldn't be mods if we weren't mature. SO no need to talk down to eachother :D
1677[3/11/2016 11:01:42 PM] cold ravioli: <3 ya all, even the ones I don't know
1678[3/11/2016 11:04:22 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: no problem, it didn't really embarrass me as much as it  just caught me off guard. I gotcha, and I completely understand why you did what you did. No worries and no hard feelings
1679[3/14/2016 12:42:47 PM] The Mangle: Hey hey people.
1680[3/14/2016 12:43:15 PM] The Mangle: I got the name The League of Legends Inn as a club name
1681[3/14/2016 12:46:12 PM] Iculas: Wooooo
1682[3/14/2016 12:46:50 PM] The Mangle: :v I'll have it off if someone else wants to run it. Seems sort of strange it'd be own by 'The Mangle'
1683[3/14/2016 12:50:25 PM] Sejuani: Pass it onto Ashe. I'll be back in a few minutes.
1684[3/14/2016 12:51:13 PM] Sejuani: Also, Rito plz. Dropping that out of nowhere.
1685[3/14/2016 12:51:32 PM | Edited 12:51:55 PM] The Mangle: You're lucky I keep up to date with things.
1686[3/14/2016 12:51:59 PM] Sejuani: Erm, what did you name the club by chance?
1687[3/14/2016 12:52:24 PM] The L: League of Legends Hotel
1688[3/14/2016 12:52:51 PM] The L: gotta pay RP to stay in
1689[3/14/2016 12:53:01 PM] The Mangle: The League of Legends Inn.
1690[3/14/2016 12:53:14 PM] Sejuani: Did you set the tag as Inn?
1691[3/14/2016 12:53:57 PM] The Mangle: I have now
1692[3/14/2016 12:54:06 PM] Sejuani: This pleases me `^`
1693[3/14/2016 12:54:51 PM] The L: so how's this work?
1694[3/14/2016 12:54:58 PM] The L: can I just join it?
1695[3/14/2016 12:55:38 PM] The Mangle: Thus far, It seems the own has to invite people manually. Which is another reason I shouldn't own the club. My friends list is almost full.
1696[3/14/2016 12:58:34 PM] The L: oh pffffft
1697[3/14/2016 12:58:57 PM] Sejuani: Moderators can also add people
1698[3/14/2016 12:59:04 PM] Sejuani: There can be four moderators per club.
1699[3/14/2016 12:59:14 PM] The Mangle: True, I just glanced over the FAQs
1700[3/14/2016 12:59:17 PM] Sejuani: So, Ashe as the owner, myself, and two other nerds she wants to tap.
1701[3/14/2016 1:03:50 PM] The Mangle: Welp, just hit me up whenever you want to take the name, Ashe :v
1702[3/14/2016 1:04:11 PM] The Mangle: Wait, I can just GIVE her ownership
1703[3/14/2016 1:04:13 PM] The Mangle: N*ce
1704[3/14/2016 1:06:29 PM] Iculas: ..... damn I was playing possum
1705[3/14/2016 1:06:56 PM] Iculas: I'll be on soon regardless. Just gotta finish this mission.
1706[3/14/2016 1:07:06 PM] The Mangle: Okie doke.
1707[3/14/2016 1:10:15 PM] Sejuani: I say we take this opportunity to overthrow Ashe and install a new pig riding monarchy.
1708[3/14/2016 1:10:49 PM] The Mangle: Brutal.
1709[3/14/2016 1:11:41 PM | Edited 1:12:13 PM] Iculas: .... I thought Ashe was the pig riding monarchy? c:<
1710[3/14/2016 1:16:01 PM] Sejuani: Har. As if anyone would even notice a pathetic, broken arrow like hers `^`
1711[3/14/2016 1:17:40 PM] cold ravioli: This is like Mommy hit Daddy at the dinner table, but the kids are told that it's fine and they should keep eating.
1712[3/14/2016 1:18:41 PM] Sejuani: Shut up Annie >:c You darn dork.  Eat your vegetables.
1713[3/14/2016 1:18:53 PM] cold ravioli: ;o;
1714[3/14/2016 1:23:45 PM] Alexander: Don't you talk to Annie that way. She's a frail, delicate flower >:c
1715[3/14/2016 1:23:58 PM] Alexander: ... that happens to be on fire
1716[3/14/2016 1:24:08 PM] cold ravioli: Don't mind the fire.
1717[3/14/2016 1:30:47 PM] Alexander: But the mashed potatoes are on fire...
1718[3/14/2016 1:30:57 PM] cold ravioli: They're better >:U
1719[3/14/2016 1:35:10 PM] Sejuani: Should I go ahead and make the announcement, Comrade Ashe? o7
1720[3/14/2016 1:42:10 PM] Sejuani: Wow.
1721[3/14/2016 1:42:13 PM] Sejuani: Skype just ate my post.
1722[3/14/2016 1:42:19 PM] Sejuani: Because I used /warns at the start
1723[3/14/2016 1:42:28 PM] Sejuani: I was going to show it to you all for an opinion :|
1724[3/14/2016 1:42:52 PM] Alexander: Ouch... hope it wasn't large
1725[3/14/2016 1:43:11 PM] Alexander: maybe try pressing on down on the arrow pad?
1726[3/14/2016 1:43:33 PM] Alexander: er... up
1727[3/14/2016 1:44:26 PM] Sejuani: I tried that.
1728[3/14/2016 1:44:31 PM] Sejuani: And it was fairly large.
1729[3/14/2016 1:44:41 PM] Alexander: damn :/
1730[3/14/2016 1:47:43 PM] Iculas: D:
1731[3/14/2016 1:49:39 PM | Edited 1:51:29 PM] Sejuani: As some of you may already be aware, Riot Games announced a new Clubs function at the start of the preseason. We've been excitedly awaiting its release, and today, it's finally hit the live client! It's still in [b]Live Beta[/b] and will likely have a few errors here and there, but we're more than eager and happy to present this to all of you. Now, I'm sure many of you are wondering just what a club is and how it works. Well, I'm going to happily provide you two links provided by Riot Games! [url=https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207994746-Guide-to-Clubs#top]Beep[/url] and [url=http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/2016-season-update/social.html]Boop![/url]
1732
1733More importantly? I'll answer as many questions as I can on the subject!
1734
1735Now, before anyone freaks out, this is completely voluntarily. This is hardly a mandatory feature and you have every right to ignore this. But for those of you who are interested? Just keep on reading! 
1736
1737First and foremost, the clubs are in beta. Right now, they supposedly have a user cap. One resource states one hundred users while a more recent document suggests fifty for initial release. Hopefully it'll get adjusted and bumped up in the near future but we're going to try and fit as many of you in as we can! So, we've temporarily got two clubs set up! We're going to invite as many of you as we can into group one and then trudge on over to group two until it's filled to the brim! And, I do want to sincerely apologize if anyone gets left out. As soon as the user cap gets extended, we're going to fit as many users as we can.
1738
1739Now, because of that user limitation, we'll probably prune inactive users who really don't play League too often. After all, this is meant to be a way for players in our community to easily group up and play together. You'll be able to dive right into a match making lobby together and play right through the club interface. [b]I do want to make something clear, however.[/b] This is the League of Legends Inn club. Our room's rules and expectations will carry over to the club room. We're a roleplaying community and we're hardly professional gamers. People are going to make mistakes and sometimes lose games. The entire point of this club is to let you dorks have fun and play with one another, though. 
1740
1741If it doesn't work out, we may have to retire the whole thing. But for now? We're excited to bring it back and let all of you have a chance with it!
1742
1743So, if you're interested in joining, please send me a PM with your IGN and I'll happily add you. If you have any questions? Please feel free to ask!
1744[3/14/2016 1:50:57 PM] Iculas: Hundreds years = users
1745[3/14/2016 1:51:32 PM] Sejuani: Fixed. Whoops.
1746[3/14/2016 1:52:03 PM] Alexander: Billions and billions and billions of years...
1747[3/14/2016 1:52:48 PM] Sejuani: Does it look good? Anyone have any issues?
1748[3/14/2016 1:53:02 PM] Alexander: finishing up reading right now
1749[3/14/2016 1:53:36 PM] Alexander: Looks solid to me.
1750[3/14/2016 1:53:40 PM] The Mangle: No issues here, cap'n o7
1751[3/14/2016 1:54:50 PM] Alexander: Once we have the Club established and ready for use, we should probably add some info and brief regulations about it in the channel's description
1752[3/14/2016 1:55:20 PM] Iculas: We'll likely have to be more lax on the rules but I'd say that is perfectly acceptable, worded better than I could have done at the moment. Good work Sej.
1753[3/14/2016 2:04:18 PM] The L: If they get banned in the club they're banned from the INN
1754[3/14/2016 2:04:21 PM] The L: MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1755[3/15/2016 3:51:21 AM] Sejuani: I issued an informal warning to Renekton Sobek for a Twitch copy pasta by private messages. I'll log it come the morning, I was halfway in bed when I saw it happening.
1756
1757If he does it again, hammer him hard.
1758[3/16/2016 12:14:16 PM] Dolly Damned: Can someone other than me grab what Leisha did?
1759[3/16/2016 12:14:36 PM] Dolly Damned: I would, but I'm not in the mental state atm
1760[3/16/2016 12:15:07 PM] Sejuani: Give me a second. I'm on my phone, but it won't take me but a minute to switch to my PC.
1761[3/16/2016 12:15:37 PM | Removed 12:18:01 PM] The Mangle: This message has been removed.
1762[3/16/2016 12:16:00 PM] Dolly Damned: http://pastebin.com/yDqyiX90
1763[3/16/2016 12:17:11 PM] Sejuani: What in the name of Christ.
1764[3/16/2016 12:17:19 PM] Iculas: I'm kicking her.
1765[3/16/2016 12:17:22 PM] Dolly Damned: Sorry for saying "do not do tat shit"
1766[3/16/2016 12:17:26 PM] Sejuani: I'm speaking to her already.
1767[3/16/2016 12:17:34 PM] Sejuani: But kick her if you feel the need too.
1768[3/16/2016 12:17:51 PM] The L: are these like images or something?
1769[3/16/2016 12:17:54 PM] The L: or is this all text
1770[3/16/2016 12:17:59 PM] Sejuani: I got images.
1771[3/16/2016 12:18:11 PM] Dolly Damned: I've only got text
1772[3/16/2016 12:18:29 PM] Iculas: It's all text. Honestly I gave Leisha their last warning last summer but if you got this I'll leave it to you.
1773[3/16/2016 12:19:03 PM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/ag2sbs
1774[3/16/2016 12:19:40 PM] Dolly Damned: Thought you meant if they were linking images, my msitake
1775[3/16/2016 12:20:28 PM] The L: ...Is this just a copy pasta?
1776[3/16/2016 12:20:46 PM] Iculas: Yes. Disruptive trolly copy/pasta.
1777[3/16/2016 12:20:55 PM] Dolly Damned: My logs are from the time I logged back into the chat, I'm unaware if there is more than just that
1778[3/16/2016 12:21:16 PM] Sejuani: [Wednesday, March 16, 2016 12:18 PM] Iculas: 
1779
1780<<< It's all text. Honestly I gave Leisha their last warning last summer but if you got this I'll leave it to you.Pending how they behave, they're up for being timed out. But this is their first major event in almost a year.
1781[3/16/2016 12:22:33 PM] Iculas: It looks like them and Manipulus have been yelling at each other for a while. Personally I wanted them banned last summer so I'm not going to touch this. It's in your hands Sej. o7
1782[3/16/2016 12:24:19 PM] *** Sejuani rubs her face. "I assure you, I'm tempted to throttle them." ***
1783[3/16/2016 12:25:56 PM] Iculas: http://pastebin.com/zjtg1rxW
1784[3/16/2016 12:26:43 PM] cold ravioli: That is blatantly against the room
1785[3/16/2016 12:26:49 PM] cold ravioli: Make an example of them, they know better
1786[3/16/2016 12:28:25 PM] cold ravioli: That was at the copy pasta thing, btw. reading icky's thing now
1787[3/16/2016 12:29:01 PM] Iculas: Mine was just a longer scope of the whole thing.
1788[3/16/2016 12:31:37 PM] cold ravioli: ah
1789[3/16/2016 12:31:41 PM] cold ravioli: yeah, they know better
1790[3/16/2016 12:32:07 PM] cold ravioli: that's blatant, and they are, or should be, well aware that shit isn't okay.
1791[3/16/2016 12:40:36 PM] Alexander: just got up a short while ago. Reading through things
1792[3/16/2016 12:43:06 PM] Alexander: what did Twilight Shroud do?
1793[3/16/2016 12:43:56 PM] Iculas: Just the usual angsty squawking, same as manipulus but Leisha escalated it into spouting memes and copy/pasta.
1794[3/16/2016 12:44:17 PM] Alexander: yeah, I saw that massive.... post
1795[3/16/2016 12:49:01 PM] Sejuani: I wasn't going to speak to Twilight Shroud, but I could if you feel she should be paddled as well.
1796[3/16/2016 12:56:24 PM] Sejuani: In complete and utter honestly? The primary issue was Leisha. Manipulus and Twilight Shroud didn't do anything nearly as egregious.
1797[3/16/2016 12:56:30 PM] Iculas: I don't think so. If anybody Manipulus should probably have something said to him but I'm really only concerned with Leisha due to her history.
1798[3/16/2016 12:56:38 PM] *** Iculas doesn't even enter button. ***
1799[3/16/2016 12:57:30 PM] Iculas: That and what Sej said. It slowly escalated into what we saw but neither of them really took it that far aside from some scrolling.
1800[3/16/2016 12:57:31 PM] Sejuani: I've already spoken to Manipulus, but only because he played along with her antics. He was hardly part of the issue.   It's Leisha whose the big concern. But, Leisha had to "disconnect" halfway through.  I'm waiting for her to "get to class."
1801[3/16/2016 12:58:33 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, I don't LIKE the other stuff, but eh. The copypasta, though, is specifically and blatantly against the rules. That's not cool, and I'm sure she realizes that.
1802[3/16/2016 1:02:30 PM] Sejuani: *Warning - Manipulus
1803Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/ag3fnp
1804Text Logs: http://pastebin.com/YuUUgvrz
1805Summary: User was involved in the larger incident with Leisha. When spoken to, the user seemed cooperative and understanding of the situation despite being initially defensive. 
1806
1807Leisha logs to come when she reconnects.
1808[3/16/2016 1:10:18 PM] Sejuani: Also. Would anyone be opposed to Captain Volibear being promoted to an EU West chat mod? He seems to be responsible, and has offered to help with running the EU West club.
1809[3/16/2016 1:10:46 PM] Dolly Damned: I love Voli
1810[3/16/2016 1:10:51 PM] Dolly Damned: I have no issues with him
1811[3/16/2016 1:11:11 PM] The Mangle: Noooope. Captain Volibear is, from what I've seen, a wonderful individual. :P I think he'd be great.
1812[3/16/2016 1:11:13 PM] cold ravioli: I dn't know 'em, Seems fine though. Can always be undone if it's a problem.
1813[3/16/2016 1:11:20 PM] Alexander: Don't know the guy personally but he's always been a respectable and kind fellow.
1814[3/16/2016 1:11:52 PM] Iculas: No. He'd look horrible in a skirt.
1815[3/16/2016 1:12:05 PM] cold ravioli: Wait are mods required to wear skirts?
1816[3/16/2016 1:12:07 PM] Dolly Damned: My only worry is that he wouldn't get on skype fo this group
1817[3/16/2016 1:12:09 PM] Iculas: .... wait, I think I misread the question. Yes. I would be quite fine with that.
1818[3/16/2016 1:12:29 PM] Dolly Damned: Since it's a big important part of doing.. Well anything really
1819[3/16/2016 1:12:35 PM] Sejuani: Uh
1820[3/16/2016 1:12:41 PM] Sejuani: I had meant the in game club, Eden.
1821[3/16/2016 1:12:45 PM] Sejuani: Not actual moderatorship
1822[3/16/2016 1:12:48 PM] Dolly Damned: ohh
1823[3/16/2016 1:12:49 PM] Dolly Damned: I am dumb
1824[3/16/2016 1:12:53 PM] *** Dolly Damned goes this way ***
1825[3/16/2016 1:13:07 PM] Alexander: Wait, Pickles, come back! ;~;
1826[3/16/2016 1:13:08 PM] *** cold ravioli puts a sign over Eden's corner. 'Corner of Shame' ***
1827[3/16/2016 1:13:18 PM] Dolly Damned: It's been a long day @_@;
1828[3/16/2016 1:13:26 PM] Iculas: I was going to outright suggest he be the club owner to be honest. I didn't think Zyrasaur played still.
1829[3/16/2016 1:13:38 PM] Alexander: we have to fry you to buttery golden deliciousness and dunk you in ranch
1830[3/16/2016 1:13:59 PM] Dolly Damned: ...
1831[3/16/2016 1:14:04 PM] Dolly Damned: I don't even like pickles ' ^ '
1832[3/16/2016 1:14:26 PM] Alexander: Well its not like I'm recommending you eat yourself. '~'
1833[3/16/2016 1:14:32 PM] cold ravioli: Good, that'd be cannibalism.
1834[3/16/2016 1:14:40 PM] Dolly Damned: Would if I cou-
1835[3/16/2016 1:17:37 PM] *** cold ravioli sprays eden with water ***
1836[3/16/2016 1:17:40 PM] cold ravioli: No, bad. Lewd.
1837[3/16/2016 1:18:49 PM] Iculas: Eden, I need the Old spice F-list Ad for roleplay quote. STAT!
1838[3/16/2016 1:19:03 PM] Sejuani: ... I need to see this as well.
1839[3/16/2016 1:19:03 PM] Dolly Damned: oh hold on
1840[3/16/2016 1:19:23 PM] Iculas: I've seen a couple. Possibly the same guy I think.
1841[3/16/2016 1:19:32 PM] cold ravioli: 'p-p-p-power'?
1842[3/16/2016 1:19:37 PM] cold ravioli: not enough 'ps'
1843[3/16/2016 1:21:03 PM] Dolly Damned: http://f-list-ad.tumblr.com/image/140234776745
1844[3/16/2016 1:21:10 PM] Dolly Damned: THta's not it, but still looking
1845[3/16/2016 1:21:16 PM] Iculas: >:c
1846[3/16/2016 1:21:44 PM] Alexander: now I want fried pickles...
1847[3/16/2016 1:21:58 PM] cold ravioli: I should retry pickles at some point
1848[3/16/2016 1:22:01 PM] Iculas: I'm not certain that is entirely tasteful.
1849[3/16/2016 1:22:36 PM] Dolly Damned: Hello Ladies. Look at the wall, now at my ad, now at the wall, now back to my ad. Sadly those ads are not my ads but if they were they would have kinks like Incest, Ageplay, Bimbofication they could play like my ad. Look down, now back up. Where are you? You’re in a setting of your choosing with anything you can imagine. Whats in your hand? Now back at me. I have it, its big human cock that fills your grasp. Look again its now an wolf cock with a thick pulsing knot. Anything is possible when you are Master of Perversion, I sometimes play a horse. OLD SPICE WHISTLE
1850[3/16/2016 1:22:54 PM] Sejuani: I'm all for dipping a pickle in bubbling hot grease for over a minute, but I'm not sure the pickles appreciate it >:c
1851[3/16/2016 1:23:05 PM] Iculas: YES>
1852[3/16/2016 1:23:20 PM] Iculas: The Moon is pleased, Eden! :3 :3 :3
1853[3/16/2016 1:23:38 PM] *** Dolly Damned goes Benji mode and drools ***
1854[3/16/2016 1:24:18 PM] cold ravioli: Did the 'Benji is a dog' joke start due to Benji the Dog?
1855[3/16/2016 1:24:36 PM] Iculas: No but it should have. Also Barkspawn.
1856[3/16/2016 1:24:50 PM] Iculas: Barkspawn is canon deal with it!
1857[3/16/2016 1:25:11 PM] cold ravioli: the fuck is Barkspawn?
1858[3/16/2016 1:25:18 PM] Dolly Damned: oh boy
1859[3/16/2016 1:25:28 PM] Dolly Damned: Let me
1860[3/16/2016 1:25:30 PM] Dolly Damned: please let me
1861[3/16/2016 1:25:57 PM] Iculas: Annabelle y u no even Dragon Age? >:c
1862[3/16/2016 1:26:11 PM] Iculas: Yes Eden please... you do it. Prepare for a story.
1863[3/16/2016 1:27:47 PM] Dolly Damned: There's not video of it
1864[3/16/2016 1:28:22 PM] Dolly Damned: TL:DR if you save the dog, you get them after the first major fight. Well, Alistar is like... "I would of named them Barkspawn." And everyone is reall upset
1865[3/16/2016 1:28:32 PM] cold ravioli: xDDD
1866[3/16/2016 1:28:34 PM] Dolly Damned: Because the monsters in the game are called darkspawn
1867[3/16/2016 1:28:40 PM] cold ravioli: Gotcha
1868[3/16/2016 1:38:28 PM] Sejuani: Warning - Leisha
1869Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/ag40m3
1870Text Log: http://pastebin.com/Qr5kPMqT
1871User initially logged off when I was typing a response them. When they logged back on, the user seemed incredibly non-complaint and begrudging to speak with me about the incident. Despite that, they've expressed an understanding of the situation.
1872
1873Should another situation like this occur, I recommend a hard punishment.
1874[3/16/2016 1:38:44 PM] Sejuani: Anything else, or permission to go run? o7
1875[3/16/2016 1:38:54 PM] cold ravioli: Dismissed, privates.
1876[3/16/2016 1:39:09 PM] cold ravioli: Joking aside, you're awesome sej :D.
1877[3/16/2016 1:54:15 PM] Iculas: I agree. Very good Sej. Now it's time for me to be incredibly unprofessional.
1878"Sorry if I sound super snarky; got in a really bad mood." It's called getting in trouble. Most people don't get pissy when they're being scolded.
1879[3/16/2016 2:28:19 PM] cold ravioli: oh, also
1880[3/16/2016 2:28:30 PM] cold ravioli: [hype intensifies] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DGe4RtPmWw&ab_channel=ThePruld
1881[3/16/2016 2:30:07 PM] Alexander: Only a week left ;-;
1882[3/16/2016 8:24:14 PM] Sejuani: https://www.f-list.net/c/Aurelion%20Memes
1883[21:21]   Aurelion Memes lifts Renekton with a cosmic force, then uses stardust to allow him to see the collection of books relevant to the time lost.
1884[21:22]   Nasus the Guardian chuckles warmly with a smile down to Aiasis "Oh? The males in your people aren't?" he says, with a small rub of his chin as he considers this "Well.....Neither are mine, if I had any..."
1885[21:22]   Lux - leans into the pets, Yay~
1886[21:22]   Kaori Sakamoto: whats the difference between ekko and zilean?
1887[21:22]   Bilgewater Capt: Cheery, that's the shit I do like.
1888[21:22]   Kaori Sakamoto: they both time wizards
1889[21:22]   Bilgewater Capt: Ekko is a child with limited time manipulation, Zilean lives in all time at all time.
1890[21:22]   Aurelion Memes: One's a Nigger and the other is a batshit crazy old man.
1891[3/16/2016 8:24:18 PM] Sejuani: Instantly banned.
1892[3/16/2016 8:24:53 PM] The Mangle: "Sejuani brings indiscriminate justice down upon an area."
1893[3/16/2016 8:34:53 PM] cold ravioli: Good job
1894[3/16/2016 9:34:56 PM] Sejuani: I reported it for potential ban evasion as well. I believe it's a regular troll we suffer with, and informed the globals as such. Hopefully they'll get hammered this time.
1895[3/20/2016 9:53:23 PM] Sejuani: I'm requesting a formal intervention here, because I don't want to come off as biased. Considering their comments was targeted at me, I would prefer someone else to look into this.
1896
1897Warning - That Tasted Purple
1898Screen Shot: http://prntscr.com/ahwfcx
1899Logs:  http://pastebin.com/8w55hX4r
1900Public Logs: http://pastebin.com/FsejW7Lg
1901
1902[22:41]   That Tasted Purple: i meant to correct you
1903[22:41]   That Tasted Purple: its Lewdlu
1904[22:41]   That Tasted Purple: not lulu
1905[22:41]   That Tasted Purple: DAMN IT
1906[22:42]   That Tasted Purple: lewdlu not lewdlew
1907[22:42]   Vayne: Ahem.
1908[22:42]   Snow of Shurima: I said lewdlu!
1909[22:42]   Azir The Ascended puts Vayne in time out...which means ripping off the crotch of her bodysuit
1910[22:42]   Doctor Mundo: lulu watch the scrolling
1911[22:42]   That Tasted Purple stares at vaynes timeout
1912[22:42]   Celestial Architect: ...
1913[22:42]   Vayne: How about we don't, and let's avoid scrolling.
1914[22:42]   Celestial Architect did just hear a pun from Hexchem?!
1915[22:43]   Soul Rimor: (Won my promos in gold 5, got sent to Gold 3, woo <3)
1916[22:43]   That Tasted Purple: Ok fuck off on the scrolling thing i had to correct my typo
1917[22:43]   Vayne: Excuse me?
1918[22:43]   Taric: ...
1919[22:43]   Hexchem Experiment noooooo?
1920[22:43]   Taric: Welp.
1921[22:43]   That Tasted Purple: I said. Fuck off. On. the. scrolling. thing.
1922[3/20/2016 9:55:00 PM] cold ravioli: I can hop on if you want, but only briefly.
1923[3/20/2016 9:55:05 PM] Sejuani: Please do.
1924[3/20/2016 9:58:42 PM] cold ravioli: Oh, wait, you already spoke with them?
1925[3/20/2016 9:59:08 PM] cold ravioli: The ss of your pms with them seems to cover it pretty well?
1926[3/20/2016 10:00:05 PM] Iculas: HMmmmmhmmmmmm.....
1927[3/20/2016 10:00:06 PM] Sejuani: Another moderator technically needs to be involved, considering her harassment was aimed at me.
1928
1929I can't technically moderate my own situation due to bias.
1930[3/20/2016 10:00:59 PM] The Mangle: Unless it's handled I can do such.
1931[3/20/2016 10:01:33 PM] cold ravioli: Oh, right, makes sense.
1932[3/20/2016 10:01:44 PM] Iculas: I disagree unless you're actually saying you can't due to a bias, but that is mostly because it's you.
1933[3/20/2016 10:02:17 PM] cold ravioli: I'll write something up. You've been doing this a lot longer than I, but what I do, if I see someone doing something, and I'm on an alt, is I  hop on Annie to say so. After all, People respect doritos.
1934[3/20/2016 10:02:43 PM] Sejuani: Dear, I'm asking for a formal intervention because I'm admittedly steamed with the user after the last two days and my first reaction was almost to ban her. 
1935
1936I'm asking for someone to handle the situation with her tonight, because I believe I'd be incredibly harsh and be permanently done with her.
1937[3/20/2016 10:03:16 PM] Iculas: Gimmie just a second to check something before you approach them, Annie.
1938[3/20/2016 10:03:23 PM] Iculas: or whomever.....
1939[3/20/2016 10:05:05 PM] Iculas: This is what I get for being so frustrated and slacking on my record keeping. I should just be able to pull this up all easy like.
1940[3/20/2016 10:05:05 PM] cold ravioli: Aight. I was gonna paste my message here first, anyways, since I am teh noobs
1941[3/20/2016 10:08:15 PM] Sejuani: For the record, there was a small incident between her and another user last night. I didn't make a formal record of it which I now regret.
1942
1943The user was proud of their new EIcons and linked four or so icons in a single sentence.
1944Khada Jhin, the user whose had issues with That Tasted Purple in the past, posted an EIcon saying "Just Stop."
1945
1946The two shot off at each other and I told them both to stop and advised them both to block one another. Their antics in private chat, however, was infuriating. The only reason I didn't file a report last night was because their actions were restrained to private chat and never leaked over and into the Inn. 
1947
1948The two users agreed to block each other after a lot of apparent bickering and I had hoped it would be fine.
1949
1950
1951But, less than twenty four hours after this incident, she was that aggressive to someone else telling her to stop with the spam.
1952[3/20/2016 10:08:42 PM] Sejuani: I should of said it on Sejuani, and it likely wouldn't of happened.
1953
1954But, she responded with that blatant aggression because I wasn't on it.
1955[3/20/2016 10:09:30 PM] Iculas: Alright so I have about four or five notations for this individual last year most of which were in the October area. She had a very rough summer due to some personal RL issues I was made aware of but their general attitude everywhere pretty much follows the vein of "I'm upset and I'm going to snap at people."
1956[3/20/2016 10:10:11 PM | Edited 10:11:09 PM] Sejuani: I would agree with that assessment, and we've both discussed it in the past. 
1957
1958They're not an inherently toxic person, but they do lash out due to their own personal issues. I only requested intervention here because I am frustrated and tired of this user. I don't want to come off as overly callous or punishing. 
1959[3/20/2016 10:10:39 PM] cold ravioli: Should I speak to them about their inflammatory mood,t hen?
1960[3/20/2016 10:10:57 PM] cold ravioli: I can include that after the bit about how it shouldn't matter who's citing the rules, they should still respect them.
1961[3/20/2016 10:11:26 PM] Sejuani: Personally, I'd be fine with that, but I'd wait for Diana to green light it since I'm stepping back from the situation.
1962[3/20/2016 10:12:15 PM] Dolly Damned: Back, and reading up on every- oh it's this user again...
1963[3/20/2016 10:13:22 PM] cold ravioli: What I have so far:
1964
1965Hi! Sorry to bother you. I was asked to step in a bit, since Sejuani was involved in the incident. She didn't want to be biased, so she asked me to look it over. First and foremost, you're not in trouble. As I said, I'm simply stepping in to make sure all's being fair.
1966
1967So that being said, after looking over logs, all I really have to say is this: The rules do exist for a reason, and though everyone slips up on occasion, it's not really okay to snap at someone for trying to enforce them. I understand it can seem annoying when non-mods try to enforce the rules, but this is actually a good thing. When people have respect for the rules, it makes everything run smoother. So, regardless of who is saying it, mod, mod-alt, just a person in the room, I don't think it's okay to bite their head off for simply pointing out that you should be condensing your thoughts a bit.
1968
1969In short, please respect the rules, regardless of who is citing them. After all, even if we're not around, we eventually will be, and lashing out afterwards just makes it worse.
1970[3/20/2016 10:14:39 PM] Iculas: ^^^^ Gorgeous.
1971[3/20/2016 10:16:23 PM] Dolly Damned: Gorgeous, though I am going to ask something; this has been a repeated person we've had issues with, would this be justifiable grounds to time them out for some time?
1972[3/20/2016 10:16:25 PM] cold ravioli: Should I speak with them about their repeated outbursts?
1973[3/20/2016 10:17:06 PM] cold ravioli: I don't think it would be, as the offense in question is rather minor. Telling someone to fuck off, while rude, is... well I tell someone to fuck off every day or so. Also they said they were being dumb. Of course, there's obviously a line to how many apologies we'll accept
1974[3/20/2016 10:17:14 PM] cold ravioli: but I don't think it's worthy of a time-out, personally.
1975[3/20/2016 10:17:21 PM] Iculas: No. I'd just leave it at that. They pretty much got a free pass form last year past the timeout.
1976[3/20/2016 10:17:44 PM] cold ravioli: So, green light to go?
1977[3/20/2016 10:18:34 PM] Iculas: Yeah. You're a green light to go.
1978[3/20/2016 10:19:27 PM] Sejuani: And this is why I referred over to the group, because I was ready to assign a week's timeout.
1979[3/20/2016 10:19:31 PM] Iculas: Also, Eden, I've already brought it up to ban this person but if they're going to be a problem over the next month or two they've got one big problem with it: Me. I'm going to keep an eye on them.
1980[3/20/2016 10:21:05 PM] Iculas: They're getting a free pass on last summer's incidents and I'd really not like to share all the details of why. It wouldn't be right to say. Some of it has to do with my own records on the matter which is completely my fault there.
1981[3/20/2016 10:21:11 PM] Dolly Damned: I was unaware that they were an issue before I was signed on, my mistake there just wasn't filled in! It might of seemed harsh but I was under the understanding that there was 'more' happening.
1982[3/20/2016 10:40:09 PM] Iculas: There actually is and was. That's the awful thing. x_x
1983[3/20/2016 10:41:47 PM] Iculas: Remember this, Annie?
1984[3/20/2016 10:43:03 PM] Dolly Damned: what in the hell...
1985[3/20/2016 10:45:29 PM] Alexander: Just got home. Reading up
1986[3/20/2016 10:46:43 PM] Alexander: Seriously? This Lulu again?
1987[3/20/2016 10:48:26 PM] cold ravioli: I do remember that, I think. Why?
1988[3/20/2016 10:50:02 PM] cold ravioli: Feels like that was a long time ago. Before I had the prime name.
1989[3/20/2016 10:50:54 PM] Alexander: I know I'm a bit late to the party on this, but why aren't they on timeout?
1990[3/20/2016 10:51:13 PM] cold ravioli: Wellt he most recent link was.... I'm awful with dates, but a long time ago
1991[3/20/2016 10:51:19 PM] cold ravioli: Before I was a mod,b efore I had the prime name
1992[3/20/2016 10:51:33 PM] Alexander: I'm referring to what Sej posted about 50 minutes ago
1993[3/20/2016 10:54:38 PM] cold ravioli: Well, I already spoke with them, with Icky's go-ahead.
1994[3/20/2016 10:56:16 PM] Alexander: They were in timeout before, does procedure not dictate we go ahead to the next step? That is not acceptable behavior.
1995[3/20/2016 10:57:43 PM] cold ravioli: I really don't think it's that bad? In any case, to be honest I'd like further action to not be taken since I already said they wouldn't be getting in trouble.
1996[3/20/2016 11:01:17 PM] Dolly Damned: I am going to say for the record that I am happy they were spoken too about this and all, but I do think more action should of been taken. It's not so much it was a member of the mod team but the fact if they spoke that way to anyone; that is far from accaptable and while there might have been a time frame from last summer, they have been an issue recently and I do feel this is letting them off too easy. I know I've been slapped with the more up front and deal punishment type of person, or as said before, a hardass. This was really just not okay at all.
1997[3/20/2016 11:02:56 PM] cold ravioli: http://prntscr.com/ahwt7aI've seen far worse from people who haven't been spoken to.
1998[3/20/2016 11:03:09 PM] cold ravioli: the fuck happened?
1999[3/20/2016 11:03:13 PM] cold ravioli: I dind' tmean to paste again
2000[3/20/2016 11:03:18 PM] Dolly Damned: ' ^ '
2001[3/20/2016 11:05:38 PM] Alexander: That's really not an acceptable excuse.
2002[3/20/2016 11:07:03 PM] cold ravioli: I didn't say it was, but the issue was settled and action was taken.
2003[3/20/2016 11:07:15 PM] cold ravioli: I'd really hate to have been the one to speak with them
2004[3/20/2016 11:07:21 PM] cold ravioli: just to have what I said (and had approved) undone.
2005[3/20/2016 11:08:01 PM] Dolly Damned: No one is telling you to do anyhting, I as well as Darius, (if it's okay to say that) are simply explaining our distaste for how it was handled
2006[3/20/2016 11:08:37 PM] Alexander: I simply asked why the appropriate action was not taken.
2007[3/20/2016 11:08:45 PM] cold ravioli: I feel it was, personally.
2008[3/20/2016 11:08:49 PM] Alexander: It was not.
2009[3/20/2016 11:08:56 PM] cold ravioli: I disagree.
2010[3/20/2016 11:12:31 PM | Edited 11:13:34 PM] Sejuani: I'm going to be incredibly blunt on the matter. 
2011
2012
2013I stepped back on this one, which is why I'm not speaking on the subject matter. I had my original judgment and thoughts on the matter, but asked for outside council for a reason. Considering the comments were made towards me, I don't want any room for an accusation of bias to be made by That Tasted Purple.
2014
2015Mangle also didn't voice their opinion due to the incident from last night. That was completely in PM, and never carried over to the room. But, they were undeniably biased from that incident and attack on their friend.
2016
2017
2018
2019Because of that, and that reason alone, not only Mangle but also myself allowed the others to handle this. At the time? Annie, and Diana were online. The two of them consented and action was taken. 
2020
2021We're not going to play double jeopardy and warn someone twice over the same incident. Tonight was handled and resolved by those who took over and handled the case. They chose what path to take, and I'm not going to argue against their decision despite my own opinion. 
2022
2023
2024
2025However, I do believe it's pointless to argue over tonight. Future action and recourse should be looked at and considered. I'm a strong proponent of timing them out if this happens again. 
2026
2027Not to me, not to a moderator, but to anyone.
2028[3/20/2016 11:20:05 PM] Alexander: As much as I understand where Mangle and Sej are coming from, and I don't care for double dipping either (though it has been done before,) was the last time they were handled for an offense of their own not ending in the result of a time out? I may be wrong.
2029[3/20/2016 11:24:02 PM | Edited 11:25:32 PM] Sejuani: No. That timeout was sometime ago and for a long time they behaved on their alts. 
2030
2031The incident with the Jhin release and the Pee-Wee Herman comments was the first time their name came up in this discussion since (I want to say) last August. They were timed out over the summer if my memory is correct. 
2032
2033They've been issued a few warnings since then. These have all occurred since February 1st, 2016.
2034
20351) Shaco-Not-Stirred school shooting joke
20362) Pee-Wee Herman Rant4) Yordle Height debate
20375) Tonight
2038
2039Four warnings. Three of which relate back to temper tantrums and childish behavior and a fifth which was given due to extremely black and crude humor.
2040[3/20/2016 11:24:47 PM] cold ravioli: I feel like the third one was a really lon gtime ago.
2041[3/20/2016 11:25:01 PM] cold ravioli: I don't know when I go tthe Annie name, but I had the Annie name for SOME TIME before I was made a mod of the inn
2042[3/20/2016 11:25:14 PM] Sejuani: It may of been. I'll strike it from the record, I only remembered it due to the screen shot and I could be wrong about the date.
2043[3/20/2016 11:25:26 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, not necessary, I'm just awful with time frames
2044[3/20/2016 11:26:37 PM | Edited 11:27:04 PM] Alexander: Okay. Fine. My mistake. However, they have still surpassed their three strike limit even if we are to ignore previous records.
2045[3/20/2016 11:27:33 PM] Iculas: I too am going to be blunt, while I am watching walking dead with my family: if you're a habitual rule breaker having me watch you like a hawk is far worse than a timeout. It's an unofficial notice to shape up or get shipped out. I explained my part, as did Annie.
2046[3/20/2016 11:30:11 PM] Sejuani: Since February 1st, however, they've been warned four times. I'd say only one of these incidents was major. But it is the frequency of issue which had me wanting to issue a one week ban tonight.
2047
2048Because of the antics of last night, which happened completely by PM, neither Mangle or I could realistically comment or moderate. I wanted no accusation of bias against either of us because this did occur within the last twenty four hours. 
2049
2050Tonight has been handled though. 
2051
2052There's really no denying that. We need to consider the future forward, however. Both Ashe and I are regularly watching them. Ashe is a Global Operator who typically moderates the days and I'm online most of the night. And even when I'm not on Sejuani, I have an alt logged on and watching the room. It gets handled and properly logged through here. 
2053
2054
2055
2056I honestly believe Annie and Diana did fine tonight. We'll mark it up for what it is. The next time they act up, they're going to be in line for serious punishment and discussion.
2057[3/20/2016 11:32:24 PM] Alexander: As you wish.
2058[3/20/2016 11:33:00 PM] The Mangle: I've been silent mostly due to a similar situation with Ashe (Watching nerd shows with someone special.) But I can attest It was for the best I keep quiet on the matter. Heck I almost typed up something along the lines of "Just time them out or ban them. Honestly they're more a hassle than anything at this point." Give or take a few words. I think Annie and Diana handled the situation miles better than I would have.
2059[3/20/2016 11:33:58 PM] Sejuani: I'm not trying to squash any dissent, mind you. You (Darius) and Eden are both welcome to voice your opinions and point of views. That's the point of having both of you on staff. 
2060
2061I'm just voicing my own opinion and saying a discussion on the future seems more profitable than us delving into a huge cawing match over tonight.
2062[3/20/2016 11:35:26 PM] Alexander: I'm aware you're not, ma'am. As I said, I understand exactly where Mangle and yourself were coming from. I simply having nothing more to say on the matter.
2063[3/20/2016 11:36:21 PM] Dolly Damned: I respect it all, I never thought it wasn't handled well for what happened but I do feel things are being too held back; again I know it's been said I tend to be a hard ass with members in the room but I fear at this point, most of us are going to become baised about this user and only... Three, maybe four would be able to vote about anything should the time comes?
2064[3/20/2016 11:37:48 PM] Sejuani: I assure you, I'm personally unbiased and more than capable of being neutral.
2065
2066There's a difference in having an actual bias and an perceived bias. I chose not to comment or handle her case because of the incident from last night. I did not want her to have any grounds to argue her punishment as overly harsh or unfairly given. I cannot speak for Mangle on that matter, but if we did vote on a discussion regarding this user, I would be able to give a neutral and judicial vote.
2067[3/20/2016 11:38:36 PM] Dolly Damned: That's all I cared to know about for that matter, thank you for clearing that bit up.
2068[3/20/2016 11:39:43 PM] Alexander: speaking of scrolling..
2069[3/20/2016 11:41:52 PM] Sejuani: The double posting isn't ideal, and you already spoke to Chum about the triple. If someone flares up again, I'd recommend publicly nooging them over the matter and pointing out the scrolling rule.
2070[3/20/2016 11:49:21 PM] Iculas: Wait.... four times since February?
2071[3/20/2016 11:49:26 PM] Sejuani: Yes.
2072[3/20/2016 11:50:18 PM | Edited 11:53:26 PM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/ahx41j
2073
2074All of this happened since February 1st and the release of Jhin.
2075
20761) Shaco-Not-Stirred joked about the Columbine shooting, saying Jhin should of had an Academy skin because of the school shootings. 
20772) Shaco-Not-Stirred had the Pee-Wee Herman rant at Khada Jhin
20783) Yordle Height argument with Veigar and The Celestial Healer while she was on That Tasted Purple
20794) Tonight
2080
2081That's not counting the near argument and report from last night, while on Fuckslut Healgoat or whatever it was.
2082[3/20/2016 11:56:04 PM] Iculas: I have none of this on record. You certain that wasn't in the weeks preceding his release?
2083[3/21/2016 12:01:24 AM] Sejuani: Give me a few minutes.
2084[3/21/2016 12:04:50 AM] Sejuani: School Shooting, February 1st
2085http://prntscr.com/ahx6rp
2086
2087FIRST Pee-Wee Herman Rant / February 2nd
2088http://prntscr.com/ahx6nh
2089
2090SECOND Pee-Wee Herman Rant / Feb 4th
2091http://prntscr.com/ahx6ah  http://prntscr.com/ahx6ed
2092[3/21/2016 12:06:11 AM] Sejuani: [2/1/2016 12:08:05 AM] The Mangle: I've sent a warning to Shaco Not Stirred; https://www.f-list.net/c/shaco%20not%20stirred/
2093
2094The user made a rather distasteful joke, one that offended several patrons quite a bit. The user was compliant and admitted he crossed the line with said joke.
2095
2096http://pastebin.com/Jk3aJ1py
2097[2/1/2016 12:10:58 AM] The Mangle: And, I had to remind him not to scroll too much. :B
2098[2/1/2016 2:04:26 AM] Sejuani: Good Kohkoh.
2099[3/21/2016 12:06:49 AM] Sejuani: Not currently home, but I was told Shaco Not Stirred, aka That Tasted Purple, acted up and was banned. Details? 
2100
2101I'll be reviewing the case for potential elevation, considering the individual's history of this.
2102[Monday, February 1, 2016 11:44 PM] Alexander: 
2103
2104<<< The user has been harassing Jhin members for quite a while now and I was notified of it and asked to step in. I formally told shaco to stop who ignored the request and went on a tirade about slights against her Jinx. The Jhin she bursted out on said they were backing from this conversation and Shaco had the gaul to say "yeah just hide behind the mods big man" to which I timed her out for that.
2105http://pastebin.com/6nZH9R7X mangle provided a condensed script of everything they've said for the past 30 minutes
2106[3/21/2016 12:07:30 AM] Sejuani: ... Hey Icky
2107[3/21/2016 12:07:31 AM] Iculas: Ugh.... documenting all of this now.
2108[3/21/2016 12:07:33 AM] Sejuani: I know why this happened.
2109[3/21/2016 12:07:41 AM] Iculas: Yes. I was added on the fifth.
2110[3/21/2016 12:07:50 AM] Sejuani: Yuuuup.
2111[3/21/2016 12:09:07 AM] Sejuani: So, I was inaccurate Darius. Her most recent ban, upon revisiting the logs, was February 2nd.
2112[3/21/2016 12:11:22 AM] Sejuani: And immediately after being timed out on the second, they acted up on the fourth.
2113http://pastebin.com/L7aM30x0
2114
2115
2116[Thursday, February 4, 2016 2:18 AM] Sejuani: 
2117
2118<<< Logs of my conversation with them: 
2119http://pastebin.com/fHCicBzY
2120http://prntscr.com/9ytbt0
2121If they cross this line again and harass a user within the next 24 hours, put on an immediate week long ban.
2122Pending the severity of the infraction, we'll discuss lengthening it or making it permanent. 
2123
2124If they fall in line and behave beyond this, we'll discuss their situation on a case to case basis.
2125[3/21/2016 12:11:41 AM] Iculas: I'm going to go handle this.
2126[3/21/2016 12:12:02 AM] Sejuani: Could you expound?
2127[3/21/2016 12:17:43 AM] Iculas: I'm going to speak with them about their behavior. Then I'm going to tell them the next time I so much as smell something negative come out of their mouth I'm removing them from the channel.
2128[3/21/2016 12:19:10 AM] Sejuani: I can get behind that! o7
2129[3/21/2016 12:19:28 AM | Removed 12:20:32 AM] Sejuani: This message has been removed.
2130[3/21/2016 12:20:14 AM] Sejuani: If this occurs while you're gone, a week long ban sounds good. Correct?
2131
2132With room to discuss additional punishment (And vote) if needed.
2133[3/21/2016 12:56:54 AM | Edited 12:57:27 AM] Iculas: I have spoken with Lulu but I'm going to wait to make sure they don't have anything else to add or ask before I log it for posterity. If they so much as make a snide comment to somebody after being called a yordle-(insert racial slur here)-cunt I'm going to ban them for it.
2134[3/21/2016 12:59:51 AM] Alexander: uhhh... wait. What?
2135[3/21/2016 1:00:26 AM] Iculas: They are far beyond their last warning. Report coming in soon.
2136[3/21/2016 1:01:21 AM] Alexander: I realize that, but the last sentence is what confuses me
2137[3/21/2016 1:09:03 AM] Iculas: Report: Xia Perfect Parasite (Final Warning)
2138http://pastebin.com/0VBWnhNG
2139http://prntscr.com/ahxkh8
2140In light of the realization that the user's history is nearly double what I thought it had been I felt it prudent to inform them that this had gone on long enough. The only reason they weren't banned was because, due to my own error, a moderator had told them they wouldn't be in trouble over this. They should have been banned last fall if this was how they planned on acting.
2141[3/21/2016 1:31:13 AM] Sejuani: Well, I'll be honest. Depending the severity of the instance, a permanent ban may not be warranted, Diana. We're aiming to reform over flat out exclude someone.
2142
2143They've been timed out twice, so far. Once for a week and a second time for twenty four hours. It may be better to consider another week, or even two week, ban before extending this over to something so final. But, I suppose that's a conversation for then. It would really depend on the severity of the situation and infraction.
2144[3/21/2016 1:47:47 AM] Iculas: They're also not reforming, they just directed their issues elsewhere which shows they aren't above being able to control themselves. We'll see how they shape out but how long do you let somebody continue to treat people in such a manner before you do something about it? They're well beyond their allotted warnings and they also knew very well that they should have already been banned. But yes that'll be a conversation for then and we'll see how things shape up. Honestly I don't hold much hope for them after seeing what I saw tonight.
2145[3/22/2016 7:01:56 AM] The Mangle: Reporting user The Pridestalker
2146https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20pridestalker/
2147
2148Chat log: http://pastebin.com/yK1zu4sY
2149Private warning: http://pastebin.com/m4n1giLV
2150Screenshot: http://puu.sh/nPJy0/2ef5e18387.png
2151
2152In short, the user began a playful In Character bout with Star Guardian Lux. Typical joking harassment as one may expect. Though, when Lux and several patrons warned Rengar Lux wasn't joking IC, but rather warning Rengar to stop OOC, The Pridestalker grew aggressive. Giving slurs about how Lux was a baby for not handling his IC harassment... When from what I can see she just didn't want to roleplay at the moment.
2153[3/22/2016 10:44:12 AM] Iculas: Logged and filed, thank you Mangles! o7
2154[3/23/2016 4:34:59 PM] Dolly Damned: Users The Pridestalker | https://www.f-list.net/c/Nobunaga%20- ((He's admited publicly that this was his alt as well as had them listed together))
2155Channel Chatlogs http://pastebin.com/J2ztfShp
2156Reporter Final Boss Veigar
2157
2158[17:16]Final Boss Veigar: Do you think you could say something to The pridestalker about what happened in the inn. While I was not the target of it, he was by what I saw, insulting somebody else over what rank they were in league then they want on to post some twitch emote before "leaving".
2159
2160
2161Rundown
2162Xiang Yan started talking about league as one would do in the room, Pride and her got into a bit of a tuff and I was pulled in at the end of it. Didn't see it happening live because I was working on something but after I did get in there; Pride deleted his Rengar. I would of spoken to him, but given that he dashed off it was rather impossible.
2163
2164[17:13]The Pridestalker: trkLata
2165
2166Was an icon, I know pastbin doesn't show that properly with [icon] or anything at the least, (damn logs right?). If he's around on Yasuo I am going to try and pull him into private but I can't recall which time this is he's been an issue though the other stuff had been pretty minor, (Scrolling, Icon spam)
2167[3/23/2016 4:38:38 PM] cold ravioli: What an arse.
2168[3/23/2016 4:39:45 PM] Dolly Damned: if I'm not around and he's on his Yasuo; others are free to grab him, I know when my SO gets home Imma be busy with him and dinner
2169[3/23/2016 4:42:10 PM] Iculas: Hmmmm.....
2170[3/23/2016 4:45:20 PM] Iculas: I should probably keep my fingers off of this one just in case things escalate. My last interaction with this user wasn't exactly a pleasant one but once I'm done with this stuff if nobody has caught them by the time I need to break for dinner I'll investigate this more thoroughly.
2171[3/23/2016 6:18:26 PM] The Mangle: Nobunaga - is on. Shall I speak with him or would anyone else like to?
2172[3/23/2016 6:18:59 PM] Iculas: Alas I'm still made of poopy. I leave it in your capable hands unless somebody else wants it.
2173[3/23/2016 6:19:11 PM] Iculas: Poppy * Well same thing. ;3c
2174[3/23/2016 6:19:23 PM] The Mangle: On it.
2175[3/23/2016 6:19:45 PM] Dolly Damned: Thank you, mangled
2176[3/23/2016 6:19:53 PM] Iculas: .... wow I literally read Poopy as poppy and then made the joke backwards. Sorry guys. Further proof I'm currently made of Poopy.
2177[3/23/2016 6:19:56 PM] Dolly Damned: my pc is shitting on itself atm
2178[3/23/2016 6:28:36 PM] The Mangle: We may have hit a snag.
2179[3/23/2016 6:30:20 PM] Dolly Damned: What's wrong?
2180[3/23/2016 6:30:55 PM] The Mangle: Nobunaga is claiming he deleted The Pridestalker some time ago and allowed another user to take the name.
2181[3/23/2016 6:32:08 PM] Iculas: Define "some time ago"
2182[3/23/2016 6:34:01 PM] The L: Define "Allowed another user to take the name"
2183[3/23/2016 6:34:27 PM] The Mangle: :\ Initially he made it seem as if he merely deleted the character. But now he's claiming the deletion was two hours ago.
2184[3/23/2016 6:34:40 PM] *** The L should keep a track record of this name trading thing and just have one of those HUGE board with all the random strings and thumtacks ***
2185[3/23/2016 6:35:25 PM] Iculas: Name trading has nothing to do with it. He's trying to avoid getting in trouble. I already investigated this for a completely different reason.
2186[3/23/2016 6:54:26 PM] Iculas: Yeah I don't even need to take a peak to realize he's talking out his ass. The logs Eden provided show exactly when he deleted his character because somebody ridiculed him for doing so and then somebody made that character.
2187[3/23/2016 6:58:44 PM] The Mangle: No. He wasn't talking out of his ass. I was just confused. He worded several things poorly and borderline danced around the issue at hand. But in the end (And I'll dump logs shortly) Admitted to the incident, citing a stressful family issue and lack of sleep for his outbursts, but accepted the trouble he may have gotten himself in.
2188[3/23/2016 6:59:32 PM] The Mangle: http://pastebin.com/2fn0N9k4
2189[3/23/2016 7:01:38 PM] Iculas: Gotcha! That's actually very reassuring because I didn't really want to have to get out the newspaper. It's a shame he went on a character deletion spree. I'll transfer all the logs of his infractions over to Nobunaga - so we can keep everything straight.
2190[3/23/2016 7:06:01 PM] The Mangle: He was compliant once everything was laid out. Albeit his initial string of dancing around the issue didn't help. I wouldn't take action against him, but rather monitor his behavior a bit more closely. As said in the logs, I suggested he break from F-list and drama environments in general until he's feeling better. o7
2191[3/23/2016 7:13:01 PM] Sejuani: I'm just getting online and catching up now.
2192[3/23/2016 7:15:40 PM] Iculas: I'll keep an eye out for him, which is completely different than keeping an eye on him. Hopefully things work out well for him.
2193[3/23/2016 7:25:39 PM] Sejuani: Well, I'm glad the situation was resolved, but honestly, I feel like both of them were at fault. 
2194
2195Pridestalker / Nobunaga was definitely out of line, but I perceived Xiang Yan as downright rude and mocking. There was no mutual respect from either party, and while Pridestalker undeniably lashed out, Xiang felt downright condescending. 
2196
2197I would of personally tugged both of their ears, for how they both behaved. 
2198
2199[17:09]The Pridestalker: But what do I know, i'm a trash D5 player.
2200[17:09]Xiang Yan: I was a trash d4 player
2201[17:09]Xiang Yan: Sorry
2202[17:09]The Pridestalker: I don't know shit dude, i've only played this game since S1
2203[17:09]Xiang Yan: S2 here
2204[17:09]Xiang Yan: Was in the Inferno team :)
2205[17:09]Xiang Yan: But you know coming from a shitty D4 player obviously
2206[17:13]Xiang Yan: Sure your team holds you back :(
2207[17:13]Final Boss Veigar: Both of you, no need to turn this into an argument on rank.
2208[17:13]The Pridestalker: Whatever i'm done with this shit site.
2209[17:13]Xiang Yan: Bye
2210[17:17]Xiang Yan: He deleted his character
2211[17:17]Xiang Yan: lol
2212
2213I'd recommend we keep an eye out for both of them, at this point.
2214[3/23/2016 7:26:11 PM] cold ravioli: I'unno, I felt like pridestalker was kind of the initiator. That doesn' tmake xiang innocent, but yeah
2215[3/23/2016 7:27:45 PM] Sejuani: Oh, it's undeniable that the Pridestalker's arrogant pride led to the argument. But Xiang could of handled the situation with a lot more dignity and diplomacy as well. 
2216
2217I'm not recommending action against Xiang, mind you. I'm saying to keep an eye on them both.
2218
2219
2220
2221Beyond the now deleted Pridestalker, I know Nobunaga- has a female profile but not what it is. I'll try and keep an eye open for their alts.
2222[3/25/2016 6:57:34 PM] cold ravioli: Yo. Anyone available to look over some logs? I'm a little occupied. If not, I can do it later.
2223[3/25/2016 7:11:34 PM] Iculas: This is the Cheery and Janna thing, right. Sadly I asked them to speak with somebody else for the same reason. ;_;
2224[3/25/2016 7:47:18 PM] cold ravioli: Well, i read it over. To be honest, it doesn't seem that bad to me. Cheery came off as a bit rude I suppose. I'unno, I'll link the logs. I'd like second opinions.
2225[3/25/2016 7:47:19 PM] cold ravioli: https://justpaste.it/slvd
2226[3/25/2016 9:03:29 PM] Sejuani: I just got out of the movies, I'm sorry for no reply.
2227[3/25/2016 9:03:36 PM] cold ravioli: It's fine.
2228[3/25/2016 9:07:31 PM] Alexander: forgot to turn skype back on when I set up my laptop... At my Grandparents for the weekend
2229[3/25/2016 9:08:19 PM] Sejuani: In complete and utter honesty, I'd warn Cheery for how she behaved. If you'd like me to, I can do it when I'm home. We already ate and are leaving the theater.
2230[3/25/2016 9:08:35 PM] Sejuani: Or, if you're now free, feel free to whoop her ass (verbally.)
2231[3/25/2016 9:09:52 PM] Iculas: Ugh this is just not my day....
2232[3/25/2016 9:10:09 PM] Alexander: s'alright, mate. We all have our off days.
2233[3/25/2016 9:10:58 PM] cold ravioli: I'd appreciate that Sej, if you really don't mind.
2234[3/25/2016 9:17:03 PM] Alexander: A bit late to the party on all this but I can take care of it, if need be.
2235[3/25/2016 9:33:16 PM] Sejuani: It appears Cheery is offline, now.
2236[3/29/2016 2:23:23 PM] The Mangle: (Kind of) reporting user Popstar Twitch ( https://www.f-list.net/c/popstar%20twitch/ )
2237Logs: http://pastebin.com/mg4SAvHE (Warning, huge. Too much to screencap.)
2238
2239User joined, and very rapidly dropped three large roleplay posts. Fine and dandy, well written posts. The two issues Annie and I encountered where how fast the user posted these huge (Albeit pretty) posts. It made a slight disruption (But not really bad disruption.) Oddly enough, the use IMMEDIATELY logged off after posting. The incident lasted no longer than 4 minutes Although nothing horrible happened from it, it's still a strange occurrence and it may be worth it to keep an eye out for the individual.
2240[3/29/2016 2:24:30 PM] The Mangle: I'll let Annie add whatever comments she has as she sees fit.
2241[3/29/2016 2:25:10 PM] cold ravioli: Nah, that about sums it up. They were singing a song. The posts seemed fine, and I didn't think anything needed to be done, but the empty profile and the fact they logged off after makes it feel kinda troll.
2242[3/29/2016 2:27:25 PM] The Mangle: Ah.
2243[3/29/2016 2:27:28 PM] The Mangle: I have an update.
2244[3/29/2016 2:27:48 PM] The Mangle: Captain Volibear was kind enough to inform me it was Kingpin Twitch.
2245[3/29/2016 2:27:56 PM] cold ravioli: I figured it was.
2246[3/29/2016 2:29:49 PM | Edited 2:31:45 PM] The Mangle: I don't often like to assume. But since the only issue so to speak was the sudden leaving and barren profile. However, if need be, I will drop Twitch a few messages.
2247[3/29/2016 2:34:10 PM] The Mangle: If not, I shall now resume lurking.
2248[3/29/2016 2:34:23 PM] cold ravioli: BACK TO THE SHADOWS WITH YOU
2249[3/29/2016 3:50:35 PM] Iculas: That..... is textbook spamming and trolling. If nobody has said something to him I'll have a word with him when I'm out of bed and everything.
2250[3/29/2016 3:54:31 PM] The Mangle: I haven't spoken to him. Because I'm inclined to believe it wasn't meant to be disruptive or trolling. But I won't step on toes. Do what you see fit, Ashe. :v
2251[3/29/2016 4:02:06 PM] cold ravioli: Is it? I mean, I guess spamming, maybe. But the posts themselves didn't reek of trolling, to me.
2252[3/29/2016 4:29:50 PM] Sejuani: Catching up now.
2253[3/29/2016 4:29:51 PM] Iculas: Yeah the intention was obvious plus Twitch has a history of being awesome and not a troll. But if he did that in a public channel he'd have gotten cited for it.
2254[3/29/2016 4:32:51 PM] Sejuani: Honestly, it looked completely fine (And downright funny) until the last post with the lyrics. And even then, it'd only be a borderline scrolling violation. 
2255
2256This doesn't stink of trolling behavior to me so much as someone roleplaying and getting blatantly booed by the crowd.  I'd of probably of hopped off too, if I had that sort of welcoming.
2257[3/29/2016 4:33:12 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, I got sus when I saw the profile and the fact they logged off
2258[3/29/2016 4:33:29 PM] cold ravioli: But I'unno, it didn't bother me. Like, if it'd been sona doing the same thing, I wouldn't have thought anything of it.
2259[3/29/2016 4:33:41 PM] cold ravioli: Buuuuuut the profile is pretty obviously meant to be somewhat troll
2260[3/29/2016 4:33:58 PM] Sejuani: I was actually thinking the same exact thing, but along the lines of a Popstar Ahri.
2261[3/29/2016 4:34:15 PM] cold ravioli: So do we punish someone for not filling out their profile? It's hard to say.
2262[3/29/2016 4:35:02 PM] Sejuani: I'd say no in this situation.   The only thing I'd even consider red flagging would be scrolling, and asking him to just condense lyrics if he ever did something like that again.
2263[3/29/2016 5:02:13 PM] Alexander: 1/10. Needs more Dark Souls 3
2264[3/29/2016 5:02:31 PM] cold ravioli: I didn't think the early japan release would bother me. But it has. A lot.
2265[3/29/2016 5:02:58 PM] Alexander: I don't have to be bothered. I got the full game in English
2266[3/29/2016 5:03:07 PM] Iculas: I live in Japan. I bought my copy of Dark Souls 3 already and I just haven't opened it yet.
2267[3/29/2016 5:03:20 PM] cold ravioli: Did you do the download thing?
2268[3/29/2016 5:03:27 PM] Alexander: I did.
2269[3/29/2016 5:13:56 PM] Dolly Damned: Just woke up, catching up as well
2270[3/31/2016 2:46:39 PM] Sejuani: Well, I have some unpleasant news.
2271[3/31/2016 2:47:16 PM] Sejuani: We just got another ban appeal, so we're going to need to arrange for a meeting and discuss it out :|  
2272
2273And bring up for more paperwork and filed ban reports than you can shake a stick at.
2274[3/31/2016 2:47:29 PM] The L: Or
2275[3/31/2016 2:47:30 PM] The L: OR
2276[3/31/2016 2:47:34 PM] The L: hear me out here.
2277[3/31/2016 2:47:37 PM] The L: We can say "No."
2278[3/31/2016 2:48:00 PM | Edited 2:55:11 PM] Sejuani: Except, they've been banned for one year and this is their first appeal since the ban.
2279[3/31/2016 2:48:23 PM] The Mangle: Dare I ask who?
2280[3/31/2016 2:50:06 PM] Sejuani: Well, earlier this month, I had someone approach me and ask about the process for it ~_~ They didn't send in their appeal until today, so I never brought it up.
2281[3/31/2016 2:51:21 PM] Sejuani: But, Little Draven finally sent in their ban appeal.
2282
2283
2284Sent by Little Draven to Sejuani
2285
2286Sorry it took me so long to make this after you told me, got rather busy. Also I will be honest, I don't quite remember what I got banned for since it's been so long, but! I shall apologize to the best of my abilities. First off, I do remember I was a bit of a jerk to other users sometimes and joked around too much, and I didn't realize I was hurting peoples feelings. I think besides that, that I got in trouble cause I kept doing it after being warned a time or two. Idunno why I kept on doing it, maybe it was for attention? I can't really say though I am sorry for all of the people's feelings I hurt and wish I knew everyone of them so I could personally apologize to them directly. I also remember you having come talk to me about being banned or that you were banning me and i was simply stubborn about it and gave you all a hard time. That I also apologize for, and will gladly tell each staff member that was involved that I hope they can forgive me after giving me a chance to redeem myself and me spitting in their faces. This is all I can remember doing. If there other things, feel free to let me know. 
2287
2288
2289
2290Personally, I'm not sure where I sit on this. I want to say No right out the gate, but it does deserve at least some level of discussion.
2291[3/31/2016 2:52:23 PM] cold ravioli: It hasn't really been two years, has it? That doesn't sound right
2292[3/31/2016 2:52:41 PM] Sejuani: He was banned around the time the ownership of the Inn changed.
2293[3/31/2016 2:52:56 PM] Sejuani: April 19th will mark 2 years of Diana being the owner.
2294[3/31/2016 2:53:25 PM] The L: Wait....Little Draven
2295[3/31/2016 2:53:33 PM] Sejuani: Unless, my internal clock is way off.
2296[3/31/2016 2:53:34 PM] The L: why does that name raise some immediate red flags
2297[3/31/2016 2:53:39 PM] The L: is that who I think it might be?
2298[3/31/2016 2:53:47 PM] Sejuani: The person we thought who was ban evading? Yes.
2299[3/31/2016 2:53:52 PM] cold ravioli: It doesn't seem like it's been that long, to be honest, but then again I've no concept of time either.
2300[3/31/2016 2:53:56 PM] The L: Cause if it is then I retract what I said before. Its a outright NO
2301[3/31/2016 2:54:19 PM] cold ravioli: Somewhat related: I see Prince Jarvan is back in the room, he's not banned, right? He just hasn't been around
2302[3/31/2016 2:54:33 PM] The L: THAT'S WHO I THOUGHT IT WAS
2303[3/31/2016 2:54:39 PM] Sejuani: Oh, wow, my clock is way off. It is one year.
2304[3/31/2016 2:55:31 PM] Sejuani: My sense of time is obviously 0.
2305[3/31/2016 2:56:33 PM] Sejuani: But, realistically, I'm leaning towards No, Ottie.  
2306
2307I still brought it up because people need a chance to consider it, and if someone thinks it deserves a proper vote and discussion, we can have one. And Prince Jarvan was never banned from the room. Only his lackeys, for some reason.
2308[3/31/2016 2:57:58 PM] The Mangle: My only experience with the user was some awkward approaches to another character,. I'm not even sure what they did wrong, I just woke up one day and they were banned.
2309[3/31/2016 2:58:38 PM] cold ravioli: I can't remember what they did exactly, either. I do recall that they were spoken to, and like, given a chance to defend themselves, or apologize, and instead they were a cock about it
2310[3/31/2016 3:01:24 PM] Sejuani: Realistically, they were in trouble for consistent scrolling and occassional (but mild) outbursts. 
2311
2312Ashe spent two weeks trying to deliver a warning to Little Draven, informing him he was on he was on his last warning and to shape up.  He avoided the conversation with her for two weeks, constantly quoting X or Y reason for not being able to stay online. He would then just log off and get onto another character he didn't think  we knew about.
2313
2314Well, I eventually took over and he was given 48 hours to approach me. 
2315
2316When I spoke to him, he said less than twenty words. The vast majority of which were Okay, and his longest sentence was Fuck You.    Considering he refused to discuss his actions, we but him on a permanent ban until he'd discuss his actions with Ashe or I.
2317[3/31/2016 3:01:27 PM] Sejuani: It's been a year.
2318[3/31/2016 3:02:42 PM] Sejuani: Since then, we've had a few cases of suspected ban evasion.   That became a gigantic clusterfuck that had to go through globals, due to the nature and complications of said case.
2319[3/31/2016 3:04:24 PM] cold ravioli: Well, I know it's a team of mods, but seeing as I wasn't involved, I'd say those involved should have the biggest say in how this is handled (i.e. you and ashe). Personally, I'd say it's probably worth at least talking to them, but again, I didn't deal with them personally.
2320
2321If you really don't want to do it, though, then it's probably not worth the meeting. People can change, but that doesn't mean people DO change. They could just want to be back in the room, and are apologizing because they want something, not because they're actually sorry, or intend to behave better.
2322[3/31/2016 3:05:49 PM] *** The L is holding up the biggest NO sign he can ***
2323[3/31/2016 3:06:06 PM] cold ravioli: Have you dealt with them recently, Ottie?
2324[3/31/2016 3:07:13 PM] The L: I was one of the Globals who had to dig through that clusterfuck Sej mentioned
2325[3/31/2016 3:07:30 PM] Sejuani: Can you feel it yet, Mister Crabs?
2326[3/31/2016 3:08:10 PM] cold ravioli: Right, but that was a while ago, yes? Or no? I wasn't involved, again, so the details are unclear to me.
2327[3/31/2016 3:08:35 PM] Sejuani: Do you remember the incident involving Ace and Peacock, Annie?
2328[3/31/2016 3:08:39 PM] Sejuani: That would be the same situation.
2329[3/31/2016 3:08:55 PM] Sejuani: That occurred on, 12/13/15.
2330[3/31/2016 3:09:01 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, I've never been 10,000% clear on those details, either.
2331[3/31/2016 3:09:17 PM] cold ravioli: But as I said, I think those personally involved should have the largest say in how this is handled.
2332[3/31/2016 3:09:30 PM] Sejuani: I don't know what I'm all allowed to actually say, considering globals were involved :X
2333[3/31/2016 3:09:30 PM] cold ravioli: I've little to no experience with little draven.
2334[3/31/2016 3:09:54 PM] cold ravioli: So, if those involved are like 'no, fuck that' then so be it.
2335[3/31/2016 3:10:11 PM] The L: HOW MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES CAN I SAY NO IN
2336[3/31/2016 3:10:15 PM] cold ravioli: That being said, if it wasn't for him being a cock when spoken to, I HIGHLY doubt he would have been banned permanently.
2337[3/31/2016 3:10:18 PM] The L: I WILL GOOGLE TRANSLATE NO IF I HAVE TO >:C
2338[3/31/2016 3:12:00 PM | Edited 3:12:37 PM] Sejuani: That's correct though, Annie. He only got the permanent ban because he refused to talk to staff. However, he was being put on his final warning.
2339[3/31/2016 3:14:01 PM] cold ravioli: I get that.
2340[3/31/2016 3:14:14 PM] cold ravioli: Again, I already said I think those involved should have the most say in how this is handled.
2341[3/31/2016 5:01:18 PM] Alexander: Oh joy, more ban appeals
2342[3/31/2016 8:16:33 PM] Iculas: APRIL 19TH will mark Diana as one year of being the owner, right?
2343[3/31/2016 8:16:44 PM] Sejuani: I believe so, yes.
2344[3/31/2016 8:24:07 PM] Iculas: Still catching up. Honestly he's evaded multiple times and his behavior was simply a side-effect of him feeling like people needed a "thicker skin". Personally I tried to explain to him why people don't appreciate their gender identity and sexual orientation being mocked but after two weeks of him avoiding the conversation and me putting up with him trying to snuggle me Sej took over. Everybody loses their minds when they find out he's evading the ban and start pinging me regardless of whether I'm asleep or not. My vote is no.
2345[3/31/2016 8:43:45 PM] Iculas: Somewhat related: I see Prince Jarvan is back in the room, he's not banned, right? He just hasn't been aroundHe's been around, he just keeps his mouth shut because for some reason every time he speaks I seem to notice it's him. This is of course a massive exaggeration but he has trouble controlling himself. 
2346
2347[Thursday, March 31, 2016 2:56 PM] Sejuani: 
2348
2349<<< And Prince Jarvan was never banned from the room. Only his lackeys, for some reason.I tried. I basically had two of those lackeys admitting, or blatantly getting caught in a lie in Liss's case, that PJ had put them up to those shenanigans. But he's run out of fodder now and I imagine he just wants to get away from it all.
2350[4/1/2016 11:02:23 AM] Dolly Damned: USer  https://www.f-list.net/c/morellena%20bloodfang
2351Screenshot http://prntscr.com/amuwf2
2352After the Kick  http://pastebin.com/QdhcHfMc
2353[4/1/2016 11:15:24 AM] Iculas: I saw that. Thank you, darlin.
2354[4/1/2016 11:15:31 AM] Dolly Damned: yeah
2355[4/1/2016 11:15:49 AM] Dolly Damned: A mix between that and the other stuff I've been trying to balance it all. XD
2356[4/1/2016 11:42:43 AM] Iculas: Kitahrianna went on a huge rant because the news post upset her delicate sense of propriety.
2357[4/1/2016 11:43:51 AM] Alexander: wah?
2358[4/2/2016 8:58:04 AM] Dolly Damned: Sorry Mangeled
2359[4/2/2016 8:58:29 AM] Dolly Damned: I didn't know you were already talking to them, someone just nudged me about that; I was on an alt and logged in at another time without seeing any of that
2360[4/2/2016 8:59:12 AM] The Mangle: I TRIED talking to him, a few individuals expressed annoyance over his Void Menu posts. But uh. He just dropped that response to my PM in the Inn.
2361[4/2/2016 8:59:21 AM] The Mangle: REALLY not sure how to feel about that. :\
2362[4/2/2016 9:03:52 AM] Iculas: It's typical of people that wish to argue against something that they want to do it publicly.
2363[4/2/2016 10:32:13 AM] Alexander: what happened?
2364[4/2/2016 10:35:01 AM] The Mangle: Jungle Terror posted his Void Menu or whatever it is. A huge chunk of text. I asked him to stop on behalf of a user whom asked me to.
2365[4/2/2016 10:35:25 AM] Alexander: the fucks a Void Menu?
2366[4/2/2016 10:36:56 AM] The Mangle: I didn't believe it something worth reporting, just a glorified "Please don't scroll" But it's a gimmick on his profile. I honestly struggle to explain it beyond "Dumb roleplay food he feeds to people sometimes."
2367[4/2/2016 10:37:26 AM] Alexander: gottcha...
2368[4/2/2016 10:38:47 AM] The Mangle: The reason it was brought up was because he responded to one of my PMs about it with a public paragraph response. But, it's nothing serious. And my apologies for the disjointed responses. Ranked games, responding between deaths.
2369[4/2/2016 10:40:43 AM] Dolly Damned: I hopped in here saying sorry to Mangled because I had only logged in on an alt to see the paragraph that was posted, (The reply) and I had hopped on Eden to tell people off for icons and the post; saying reply to it in PM not publc because I didn't want a fight breaking out. I didn't know it was already being taken care of, type thing.
2370[4/2/2016 10:41:40 AM] Alexander: I understand now. Thanks for the clarification.  c:
2371[4/2/2016 10:41:44 AM] Dolly Damned: o7
2372[4/2/2016 10:42:00 AM] Alexander: `^` 7
2373[4/2/2016 6:52:48 PM] Sejuani: For final confirmation, I believe no one supported the Draven ban appeal? I still need to send them a reply of some form.
2374[4/2/2016 6:53:41 PM] The L: Tell em "We talked it over as the Inn Staff and concluded that their appeal will be denied."
2375[4/2/2016 6:53:45 PM] The L: Or
2376[4/2/2016 6:53:48 PM] The L: just say No
2377[4/2/2016 6:53:54 PM] The L: LIKE I TOLD YOU THE FIRST THREE TIMES >:C
2378[4/2/2016 6:54:45 PM] Alexander: I believe no one voted in favor of the appeal.
2379[4/2/2016 8:58:51 PM] Iculas: Reply with a link to a picture of a banana.
2380[4/2/2016 8:59:03 PM] Alexander: wah
2381[4/2/2016 8:59:16 PM] cold ravioli: http://science-all.com/images/banana/banana-08.jpg
2382[4/2/2016 9:02:58 PM] Iculas: So ominous; enjoy your banana.
2383[4/2/2016 9:03:30 PM] cold ravioli: I'unno why Alexander is confused. I thought the instructions were pretty clear
2384[4/2/2016 9:03:44 PM] Alexander: :|
2385[4/2/2016 9:06:42 PM] Iculas: Ban is short for banana, kind sir.
2386[4/2/2016 9:29:34 PM] Sejuani: "Sorry, but it seems your sentence is eternal banana."
2387[4/2/2016 9:34:17 PM] Alexander: Ooooooh I get it now. x_x
2388[4/2/2016 9:34:37 PM] cold ravioli: I actually didn't. I just took it literally and linked a banana, as bidden.
2389[4/2/2016 9:35:53 PM] Sejuani: On a side note.
2390[4/2/2016 9:36:36 PM] Sejuani: The new Justice League vs Teen Titans movie was okay. It was almost definitely better than Batman vs Superman, but it didn't stand up to War or Flashpoint at all :c
2391[4/2/2016 9:37:37 PM] Alexander: Flashpoint was amazing
2392[4/2/2016 9:37:45 PM] The Mangle: Son of Batman and Batman Vs Robin are so-so. They made me abhor Damien. But JL vs TT made me like him a bit more.
2393[4/2/2016 9:38:06 PM] The Mangle: But Flashpoint is simply amazing. Amazing enough for me to watch it no fewer than 7 times. :|
2394[4/2/2016 9:38:31 PM] Sejuani: It helped characterize him a lot more, but the plot of JL vs TT seemed lackluster. It was nice to see Blue Beetle, Raven, and Star Fire though.
2395[4/2/2016 9:38:37 PM] Sejuani: And I guess Beast Boy.
2396[4/2/2016 9:38:52 PM] The Mangle: Don't insult Garfield. He's all I have.
2397[4/2/2016 9:38:55 PM] Sejuani: It made me really want to go back and rewatch some of Young Justice, to be frank.
2398[4/2/2016 9:39:12 PM] Sejuani: RIP that glorious series and the fact it'll never be finished.
2399[4/2/2016 9:39:21 PM] cold ravioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU&ab_channel=ChristopherArmstrong
2400[4/2/2016 9:40:03 PM] Alexander: As silly as it may have been some times, I really enjoyed the Teen Titans show. Starfire always made me smile and laugh. "Friends! Let us eat the food stuffs!"
2401[4/2/2016 9:41:39 PM] Sejuani: Oh no, the original Teen Titans was a classic.   As long as you don't mean Teen Titans Go, in which case you're fired. And no, I'm not joking.
2402[4/2/2016 9:41:51 PM] Alexander: I have no idea what that is
2403[4/2/2016 9:41:54 PM] The Mangle: I only just got into Comic Book stuff due to a close friend of mine sitting me down and watching movies.
2404[4/2/2016 9:42:13 PM] Sejuani: Teen Titans Go was Cartoon Network's god forsaken attempt to restart the Teen Titans franchise.
2405[4/2/2016 9:42:33 PM] Alexander: ah. Oh, was that the one with the like sorta chibi asthetic to it?
2406[4/2/2016 9:42:37 PM] Sejuani: Yup.
2407[4/2/2016 9:42:43 PM] Alexander: ah, yeah never saw that
2408[4/2/2016 9:43:17 PM] Sejuani: I've chosen a random Youtube clip. Try not to be sickened. 
2409https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyTJWGt29rI
2410
2411But considering it's a spotlight from Cartoon Network? That's meant to be a "highlight" moment of an episode.
2412[4/2/2016 9:43:20 PM] cold ravioli: I like Teen Titans Go. I don't see it as a follow-up to the comic-cartoon though, more of a spin off, or parody.
2413[4/2/2016 9:43:43 PM] cold ravioli: And yes, it's stupid.
2414[4/2/2016 9:44:18 PM] *** Sejuani grabs a broom and brushes Annie into the trash can :c ***
2415[4/2/2016 9:44:52 PM] cold ravioli: There's one episode where everyone dies.
2416[4/2/2016 9:45:02 PM] cold ravioli: Good shit.
2417[4/2/2016 9:45:14 PM] cold ravioli: Also, Robin's a total psychopath, and that's always fun.
2418[4/2/2016 9:45:17 PM] Alexander: amazing
2419[4/2/2016 9:45:41 PM] cold ravioli: It's stupid bullshit.
2420[4/2/2016 9:46:35 PM | Edited 9:47:09 PM] Alexander: its pretty stupid, but its enough to make me smile a bit so its okay in my book. I have no dedication to any comic book heroes so I don't feel offended by it.
2421[4/2/2016 9:46:54 PM] cold ravioli: Pretty much that.
2422[4/2/2016 9:47:07 PM] The Mangle: If you don't like Shazam we can't be friends.
2423[4/2/2016 9:47:08 PM] The Mangle: >:I
2424[4/2/2016 9:47:09 PM] Iculas: Mangle - Today 10:38 PM
2425> Don't insult Garfield. He's all I have.
2426
2427Praise the fat orange cat I'm not alone.
2428[4/2/2016 9:47:11 PM] cold ravioli: It's a total flandersization of the main characters
2429[4/2/2016 9:47:25 PM] Alexander: Ed Edd n Eddy are still the greatest thing know to man
2430[4/2/2016 9:47:27 PM] cold ravioli: flanderization? flanderisation?
2431[4/2/2016 9:47:38 PM] cold ravioli: ed edd and eddy are great, yes.
2432[4/2/2016 9:47:48 PM] Alexander: Hi-diddly-ho Asherino
2433[4/2/2016 9:47:51 PM] cold ravioli: Though Scooby Doo was my shit.
2434[4/2/2016 9:48:15 PM] Iculas: Howdy ho neighborinos. o7
2435[4/2/2016 9:48:17 PM] cold ravioli: Zombie Island was the first time I know of where I was ever hyped for the release of something. And it didn't disappoint.
2436[4/2/2016 9:48:32 PM] Alexander: zombie island?
2437[4/2/2016 9:48:39 PM] cold ravioli: Scooby Doo on Zombie Island.
2438[4/2/2016 9:48:42 PM] cold ravioli: THIS TIME, THE MONSTERS ARE REAL
2439[4/2/2016 9:48:45 PM] Alexander: Oooo yeah I remember that
2440[4/2/2016 9:48:52 PM] Sejuani: That was a good one.
2441[4/2/2016 9:48:56 PM] Alexander: I actually think I had a vhs of that
2442[4/2/2016 9:49:13 PM] cold ravioli: I definitely did. THen Witch's Ghost was okay, and then they didn't make any more scooby doo movies ever
2443[4/2/2016 9:49:15 PM] Alexander: I think it was required learning for us who lived in Louisiana :P
2444[4/2/2016 9:49:18 PM] Sejuani: Flintstones, the Jetsons, Spiderman, and Batman filled my childhood.
2445[4/2/2016 9:50:24 PM] cold ravioli: I regret not bein gmore loyal to the batman animated series of the 90s
2446[4/2/2016 9:50:35 PM] cold ravioli: With Mark Hammil (hammel? hamill?) as the joker
2447[4/2/2016 9:51:13 PM] Sejuani: Though, I won't lie. The current generation does have some good cartoons as well. Mangle got me to watch the Gravity Falls stuff and that shit is stupidly cute.
2448[4/2/2016 9:51:25 PM] Alexander: I grew up on Ed Edd n Eddy, Gundam, Scooby Doo,  Pokémon, Yugioh, all that stuff
2449[4/2/2016 9:51:49 PM] cold ravioli: Gravity Falls is great. So is Adventure time. Regular Show is good if  you're a stoner, or just like allusions to 80s culture in an intentionally bizarre show
2450[4/2/2016 9:52:02 PM] cold ravioli: Stephen Universe is also good.
2451[4/2/2016 9:52:02 PM] Alexander: which I now see an overwhelming majority of that stuff my students all love, which makes me smile and laugh a bit
2452[4/2/2016 9:52:16 PM] Sejuani: Upper cut, straight punch, bowl of punch! 
2453
2454Ahem.   But, I'm hit or miss on Adventure Time.   The Regular Show just doesn't appeal to me, though. I've tried watching a few episodes now.
2455[4/2/2016 9:52:33 PM] cold ravioli: Regular Show is definitely less.... directed.
2456[4/2/2016 9:52:40 PM] Alexander: Despite how stupid it can be, I love Chowder
2457[4/2/2016 9:52:48 PM] Sejuani: Chowder?
2458[4/2/2016 9:53:02 PM] cold ravioli: Adventure Time has this nice aesthetic of life continuing despite catastrophe. The fact that it's post apocalyptic, but that doesn't really matter 99% of the time is really nice.
2459[4/2/2016 9:53:14 PM] cold ravioli: It's got it's own lore and everything, but you don't need it to enjoy it, and I really appreciate that.
2460[4/2/2016 9:53:29 PM] Alexander: Its this pretty unique cartoon with an interesting art style about this boy who's the apprentice of a chef
2461[4/2/2016 9:53:47 PM] cold ravioli: Chowder was cool. RIP
2462[4/2/2016 9:54:10 PM] cold ravioli: I also enjoy Amazing World of Gumball from time to time
2463[4/2/2016 9:54:10 PM] Alexander: as someone who grew up cooking with his mother all his life, watched Food Network almost religiously and loves to cook, it was very enjoyable to watch
2464[4/2/2016 9:55:20 PM] Sejuani: Wait a second.
2465[4/2/2016 9:55:25 PM] Sejuani: That show with the Razzle Fraggle guy?
2466[4/2/2016 9:55:30 PM] cold ravioli: Iiiin any case, I don't believe that cartoons these days are better are worse than what I grew up with. After all, a good amount of cartoons I grew up with were glorified commercials.
2467[4/2/2016 9:55:34 PM] Alexander: Here you go, Sej https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoTEb3Ky68
2468[4/2/2016 9:55:35 PM] Sejuani: The.. living piece of cinnamon or something?
2469[4/2/2016 9:55:47 PM] cold ravioli: Schnitzel? Who only says 'rada'
2470[4/2/2016 9:55:55 PM] Sejuani: Yes, that's it.
2471[4/2/2016 9:56:00 PM] cold ravioli: Rada.
2472[4/2/2016 9:56:10 PM] Alexander: Voiced by Marcus Phoenix from Gears of War and Bender of Futurama
2473[4/2/2016 9:56:17 PM] Alexander: which is always funny to remember when you watch it
2474[4/2/2016 9:56:18 PM] cold ravioli: John Dimaggio, yeah?
2475[4/2/2016 9:56:22 PM] Alexander: think so
2476[4/2/2016 9:56:23 PM] cold ravioli: Also the voice of Jake the Dog.
2477[4/2/2016 9:57:03 PM] cold ravioli: Good Voice actor.
2478[4/2/2016 9:57:30 PM] Alexander: Nice guy too. Met him once
2479[4/2/2016 9:58:14 PM] cold ravioli: This is a kid's cartoon :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrlymHW0qU8&ab_channel=billysponGemonKey
2480[4/2/2016 10:02:19 PM] cold ravioli: Spoilers, also, still a kid's cartoon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzP1a5Jurak&ab_channel=BaconPancakePrevs
2481[4/2/2016 10:04:41 PM] Alexander: damn yo
2482[4/2/2016 10:05:26 PM] cold ravioli: honestly, I recommend it. it's a quality show. Maybe not for everyone though. To each their own, after all.
2483[4/2/2016 10:06:00 PM] Alexander: My brother has told me more than a couple times I should watch it
2484[4/2/2016 10:06:20 PM] Alexander: I don't typically watch tv shows
2485[4/2/2016 10:06:44 PM] Alexander: one show that I have been watching on occasion, and its amazing, is Niichijo (think that's how you spell it)
2486[4/2/2016 10:06:56 PM] cold ravioli: Haven't heard of it. What's it about?
2487[4/2/2016 10:08:12 PM] Alexander: its like this utterly hilarious slice of life anime about three high school girls. Its witty, funny and never once devolves into fan service
2488[4/2/2016 10:08:54 PM] cold ravioli: Sounds decent! Dunno what sort of Anime you like, but I wouldn't be me if I didn't recommend Mushishi.
2489[4/2/2016 10:08:56 PM] The Mangle: Nichijou? Is an absolutely fantastic watch.
2490[4/2/2016 10:09:03 PM] Alexander: ^
2491[4/2/2016 10:09:07 PM] Alexander: there you go. That show
2492[4/2/2016 10:09:24 PM] cold ravioli: I think I've seen gifs of it now, does it have like, oddly well animated action sequences?
2493[4/2/2016 10:09:28 PM] cold ravioli: Does a girl wrestle a goat?
2494[4/2/2016 10:09:29 PM] Alexander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z30Y572EmCk
2495[4/2/2016 10:09:40 PM] cold ravioli: yup. I've seen gifs. I've been meaning to watch it
2496[4/2/2016 10:09:43 PM] Alexander: one of the best bits in the first season
2497[4/2/2016 10:10:10 PM] Alexander: it has a pretty high production quality. And they use it wonderfully.
2498[4/2/2016 10:10:17 PM] Alexander: watch it, Annie.
2499[4/2/2016 10:10:31 PM] cold ravioli: yeah, I think I'd love it.
2500[4/2/2016 10:10:43 PM] cold ravioli: If only for the well animated action. I'm a sucker for non-lazy sequences
2501[4/2/2016 10:11:11 PM] Alexander: watch the clip atleast :P
2502[4/2/2016 10:11:28 PM] cold ravioli: I've seen it xD
2503[4/2/2016 10:11:38 PM] Alexander: >:c
2504[4/2/2016 10:12:04 PM] cold ravioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4si-j4XmzzU&ab_channel=zoydemedina My counter to your recommendation is this. Granted, it's just an opening, but... fuck Mushishi is a beautiful show
2505[4/2/2016 10:16:15 PM] cold ravioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WdTFRDdAcE&ab_channel=GinkoJenkins a cene
2506[4/2/2016 10:16:18 PM] cold ravioli: *scene
2507[4/2/2016 10:17:19 PM] cold ravioli: good shit. Anyways, I'll stop spamming the chat
2508[4/3/2016 6:42:51 AM] Dolly Damned: User THe King of Trolls 
2509Reported By Well, A number of people
2510Link https://www.f-list.net/c/The%20King%20of%20Trolls
2511Logs http://pastebin.com/vqj8vsZX
2512
2513TL;DR Many in the in reported it happening but in short they all thought was playful banter until it became more and more of an issue and then others nudged me to look at it. As of right now, Ashe is speaking to him so the other set of logs should be coming soon
2514[4/3/2016 7:19:17 AM | Removed 7:31:05 AM] Iculas: This message has been removed.
2515[4/3/2016 7:20:02 AM] Dolly Damned: :x
2516[4/3/2016 7:30:31 AM] Iculas: Blarg
2517[4/3/2016 7:33:55 AM] Iculas: We're going to need somebody that isn't Sejuani or myself to speak with this individual but I need to go through my logs and determine the better course of action because I really want to remove him for a week. Probably best you not speak to them either, Eden.
2518[4/3/2016 7:34:54 AM] Dolly Damned: It's a cluster, that's for sure
2519[4/3/2016 7:36:03 AM] Iculas: Yes. Once I'm done with all the paperwork I'll take some time to sift through my personal logs and the report logs to pull this guy's history since he seems to scoff at it every time.
2520[4/3/2016 10:03:34 AM] The Mangle: I've just caught myself up. If need be, I can speak to The King of Trolls when he logs on.
2521[4/3/2016 10:05:19 AM] Iculas: I think we'll need to discuss what to do about him as well. But right now I have a lot on my plate. So much that I've been working on a closing post for this scene for about five hours now.
2522[4/3/2016 10:06:59 AM] The Mangle: Okie doke, Captain. Best of luck with that post. o7
2523[4/3/2016 10:59:07 AM] Iculas: I am currently chewing Remina and Artistic Jhin out. I will spit out logs after I'm done with everything. ;_;
2524[4/3/2016 10:59:47 AM] Dolly Damned: Sorry you've had to deal with this all, boss
2525[4/3/2016 11:00:33 AM] Iculas: I'll be honest here. I shouldn't have spoken to Remina at all.
2526[4/3/2016 11:02:59 AM] The Mangle: Remina's usually pretty good about things. I've... Honestly never seen her out right act up in the room aside from some nasty comments to get a point across. :v But okie doke, best of luck, Captain.
2527[4/3/2016 11:03:25 AM] Alexander: Must have missed something before I got on..
2528[4/3/2016 11:03:59 AM] Dolly Damned: TL:DR let's share the fact we've been ignored or are ignoring people and link pages of said peopel :X
2529[4/3/2016 11:04:21 AM] Alexander: ......
2530[4/3/2016 11:04:30 AM] *** Alexander facepalm ***
2531[4/3/2016 11:04:37 AM] Dolly Damned: and more, if I recall
2532[4/3/2016 11:04:44 AM] Iculas: And tell stories about how awful people are and describe why and where.
2533[4/3/2016 11:04:51 AM] Dolly Damned: ^
2534[4/3/2016 11:05:13 AM] Iculas: But it's k because I found it funny and didn't say any names.
2535[4/3/2016 11:05:35 AM] Alexander: ah, so that was what that apology Jhin made was for.
2536[4/3/2016 11:06:06 AM] Iculas: Jhin was downright remorseful once I explained it. I genuinely though Remina was going to resort to mmah free speech argument.
2537[4/3/2016 11:19:41 AM] Iculas: Report log: Artistic Jhin 
2538tl;dr I don't want to see anymore shame sharing stories or screenshots regardless of whether or not people's names are scrubbed out. If somebody shares logs report them for it.
2539http://pastebin.com/SDmwc0q9
2540[4/3/2016 11:20:10 AM] Alexander: o7
2541[4/3/2016 11:28:00 AM] Iculas: Report log: Remina
2542tl;dr Same as above. 
2543http://pastebin.com/rEd2DJbj
2544[4/3/2016 11:47:51 AM] ***  ***
2545[4/3/2016 11:48:00 AM] Dolly Damned: oops
2546[4/3/2016 11:48:19 AM] Dolly Damned: wrong skype tab, my bad @_@;
2547[4/3/2016 11:48:23 AM] Alexander: lewd
2548[4/3/2016 11:48:28 AM] Iculas: Downloading... aw yis newdies of Eden.
2549[4/3/2016 11:48:28 AM] Dolly Damned: wait
2550[4/3/2016 11:48:30 AM] Dolly Damned: did it send
2551[4/3/2016 11:48:39 AM] Dolly Damned: I hit cancel
2552[4/3/2016 11:48:42 AM] Alexander: c:
2553[4/3/2016 11:48:46 AM] Iculas: XD
2554[4/3/2016 11:48:51 AM] *** Dolly Damned heavy breathing ***
2555[4/3/2016 11:48:55 AM] *** Iculas high fives Alexander. +10 points ***
2556[4/3/2016 11:48:59 AM] Alexander: lol
2557[4/3/2016 11:49:02 AM] Iculas: Way to call it.
2558[4/3/2016 11:49:07 AM] Dolly Damned: omfg
2559[4/3/2016 11:49:09 AM] Alexander: it didn't go through dear, just teasing you.
2560[4/3/2016 11:49:19 AM] Dolly Damned: yeah, it was lewd @_@
2561[4/3/2016 11:49:29 AM] Alexander: then share with the class >:c
2562[4/3/2016 11:50:14 AM] Dolly Damned: https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/4763037
2563[4/3/2016 11:50:15 AM] Dolly Damned: ;;
2564[4/3/2016 11:50:43 AM] Alexander: aww sweet
2565[4/3/2016 11:50:50 AM] Alexander: Christmas decorations on sale
2566[4/3/2016 11:50:58 AM] Dolly Damned: omg. lol
2567[4/3/2016 2:14:26 PM] The L: what'd I  miss
2568[4/3/2016 2:14:48 PM] Alexander: Eden being a lewd little sinnamon roll
2569[4/3/2016 2:15:05 PM] Iculas: Eden posting foot pix of flash.
2570[4/3/2016 2:15:07 PM] Dolly Damned: :u
2571[4/3/2016 2:15:17 PM] Dolly Damned: I would never post my cat like that
2572[4/3/2016 2:15:18 PM] Iculas: No mercy. Wow.
2573[4/3/2016 2:15:23 PM] Dolly Damned: That shit belongs to Tumblr and facebook
2574[4/3/2016 2:24:02 PM] Sejuani: Alright, so I just got on and caught up.
2575[4/3/2016 2:24:29 PM] Sejuani: First and foremost, I'm shocked and disappointed with Remina and Artistic Jhin. Just what the hell were they thinking.
2576[4/3/2016 2:25:44 PM] Sejuani: Secondly, did King of Trolls get resolved and handled, or did we leave it at him being spoken to? I don't see the logs of his warning.
2577[4/3/2016 2:26:17 PM] Iculas: Apparently from the reports this isn't the first time it's happened and from Remina ' logs I feel it won't be the last.
2578[4/3/2016 2:28:45 PM] Iculas: We need to discuss what needs to be done with him but alas, I'm  detained. I never even finished the conclusion to my little scene from.... three thirty in the morning.
2579[4/3/2016 2:30:31 PM] Sejuani: I'm sorry to hear that.
2580[4/4/2016 12:28:02 PM | Edited 12:28:23 PM] Dolly Damned: User Ahri Essence Thief
2581LInk https://www.f-list.net/c/Ahri%20Essence%20Thief
2582Reason Posting an icon right after I told everyone to stop
2583Screenshot http://prntscr.com/ao43wb    http://prntscr.com/ao42wk (There was more, but there's the general idea)
2584After the kick Logs http://pastebin.com/5ZkMUhhR
2585TL;DR
2586A bunch of people in the room were spaming Icons, I told them to stop, she posted another one within a full minute time frame after my warning so I kicked her. She was snarky in PMs but ignored it. 
2587
2588Did a /warn in the channel to stop with it once Air Mistress Janna also posted an icon link to her new character page but she was not online at the time. though I did give a warning to keep an eye out.
2589[4/4/2016 1:15:31 PM] Alexander: Need to run to a doctor's appointment so I have to rush this
2590[4/4/2016 1:16:35 PM] Alexander: Warning: Setsuna Ogiso.
2591Reason: Inappropriate joke.
2592
2593[14:09]Setsuna Ogiso: Someone asked a domestic abuser what was his favorite song.
2594[14:10]Setsuna Ogiso: His answer : Beats by Chris Brown.
2595[14:10]Scion of Kresnik: Lissandra?
2596[14:11]Setsuna Ogiso: Photo version [images-cdn.9gag.com]
2597[4/4/2016 1:17:09 PM] Alexander: Link of what they posted (its not pretty): http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/3521471_700b.jpg
2598[4/4/2016 1:17:43 PM] Alexander: Offered a public warning to not post material like that. User has gone quiet since then. Need to leave now.
2599[4/4/2016 1:20:50 PM] Iculas: Thank you!
2600[4/4/2016 1:44:06 PM] The Mangle: Since we're on about mild icon spam. I wanted to ask how everyone feels about The Little Lamb ( https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20little%20lamb/ ) posting that same icon every hour or so. Personally, it's grated my nerves a bit, being a space filling reminder that they're there. But, I'd rather not warn someone for periodic, spaced a bit icon use.
2601[4/4/2016 1:46:17 PM] Iculas: There is a user that does that across so many public-well shit....
2602[4/4/2016 1:47:07 PM] The Mangle: Hm?
2603[4/4/2016 1:48:48 PM] *** Iculas huffs Nothing! >:( ***
2604[4/4/2016 1:49:00 PM] Iculas: >:(
2605[4/4/2016 1:49:13 PM] The Mangle: O-oh.
2606[4/4/2016 1:49:16 PM] The Mangle: Alright then. :c
2607[4/4/2016 1:49:23 PM] Dolly Damned: o.O;
2608[4/4/2016 1:49:48 PM] Iculas: It grates on my nerves and I've been seeing it for about eight or ten months now, across like three or four characters. Now it's in my channel. /cry
2609[4/4/2016 2:50:59 PM] The Mangle: Reporting User Seth ( https://www.f-list.net/c/seth/ )
2610Two people expressed discomfort over the individual. These users are;
2611https://www.f-list.net/c/ez/ and https://www.f-list.net/c/essence%20fluxed/
2612Logs of Ez expressing distaste: http://pastebin.com/NcHd4eyu (Done an alt, sorry. :x)
2613Logs of Seth's warning: http://pastebin.com/PBsX9WSW (User went silent after.)
2614
2615Summary
2616Seth is a user whom frequently molests and gropes Ezreals in specific while lurking the Inn. I noticed one user, Ez, was expressing discomfort over these actions, so I PM'd him about it and moments later sent Seth his warning. Find and dandy. Until word through a skype call told me Seth sent my warning logs to Essence Fluxed, someone I cited as a user uncomfortable over the molesting and blatant disregard for consent. As such, I leave this in the capable hands of someone else.
2617[4/4/2016 2:52:14 PM] Sejuani: Honestly? I'm not sure if I agree with our current policy for EIcons. I agree that spamming them is absurd and we can't allow that, but occasionally? I don't see an issue with it. There's a difference in someone spamming Kappa or Salt, which is why we initially cracked down, and some early morning silliness. A big difference.
2618[4/4/2016 2:54:07 PM] Sejuani: 
2619Could you please share the entire logs, Mangle? I'll handle it, but need the complaints and log history of Seth's actions for a proper report.
2620[4/4/2016 2:57:16 PM] The Mangle: Aside from the mass molestation and whatever happened between EF and Seth, those are all I have. :x It was something I intended to be short and easy, but has escalated into something more due to Seth's actions. EF DIDN'T ask me for help, but has been expressing annoyance over the user for the past few days. The ISSUE is that EF, as a person, has an extremely hard time speaking up about issues. Admittedly. I spoke and cited him without actual logs of him saying 'Seth is bothering me'
2621[4/4/2016 3:01:19 PM] Sejuani: Then I hate to say it, but you kinda pulled the trigger early. 
2622
2623We're able to help with matters of harassment, but in this specific case? There really needs to be a request for intervention. This isn't a matter of Seth doing something unacceptable. He'd being publicly lewd and raunchy and that is allowed in the channel. If Ezreal had said no? He had asked him to stop? And he had continued doing so? We would have every ability to step in. But has he publicly asked for Seth to stop? Has he reached out to us for help? It sounds like this is a No.
2624[4/4/2016 3:01:23 PM] Sejuani: BUT HE JUST FUCKED UP
2625[4/4/2016 3:02:07 PM] The Mangle: Shall I enact death.
2626[4/4/2016 3:02:33 PM] Iculas: What happened?
2627[4/4/2016 3:02:40 PM] Sejuani: [15:59]   Sona - MaidenOfMusic tries to mark multiples.
2628[16:00]   Koge: OH MY DOGE THE NEW TARIC SPLASH!!! 1.bp.blogspot.com
2629[16:00]   Seth:  [22:21] Kindred: Seth, or Azir if you prefer, may I speak with you for a moment?
2630[22:21] Seth: I'm open.
2631[22:24] Kindred: Right. Let me be quick and concise about this. The Inn is a room for OOC discussion and casual roleplay. We're not shy to adult themes, obviously. But, the multiple Ezreal's you've been harassing, or rather, molesting, have spoken up to us. Namely Essence Fluxed and Ez. You're making them uncomfortable with these IC touches. So, I politely ask you tone it down a bit. Far be it from me to tell you to up and stop. But please, try to be a bit more respectful when someone asks you to stop, okay?  /////  Happened a bit ago, before EZ left. Before that message from kindred, they did not contact me about the whole molesting thing going on. And mods, ban me for posting this if you want to. Just wow. I'm very disappointed ...
2632[16:01]   Ahri the Popstar Fox: Weird
2633[4/4/2016 3:02:46 PM] The Mangle: Seth posted the warning- Yeah.
2634[4/4/2016 3:02:48 PM] Sejuani: He just publicly shared the warning.
2635[4/4/2016 3:03:24 PM] Iculas: That's my job.
2636[4/4/2016 3:03:57 PM] Sejuani: Go for it o7  Bop the fuck out of him. I'm timing him out of the room.
2637[4/4/2016 3:07:39 PM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/ao6ndm
2638
2639I had initiated contact before you said you'd take him, but said I'd refer him over to a Global Operator.   Look at his new status, however.
2640[4/4/2016 3:10:04 PM] Iculas: That is why you shouldn't approach people for site-wide infractions. It makes our job more difficult.
2641[4/4/2016 3:11:09 PM] Sejuani: I was approaching him for his actions inside of the Inn, as well. It's not only a site-wide infraction, but also a channel infraction, Diana. Those are two different segments, and while they may overlap, they're not always jointly connected.
2642[4/4/2016 3:11:42 PM | Edited 3:25:03 PM] Sejuani: If you weren't a Global Operator and trying to handle this, you know fully well we would of spoke to him and reported him. I'm following the procedures we've used for years. His site punishment or record is not our own, as you and I are both well aware of. This could of been resolved by me simply timing him out and handling this as I said I would. Instead, you've taken over and I can't do my job as the Co-Owner of the room. 
2643
2644I understand and appreciate your job as a staff member of F-List, Ashe, but I also know how to handle my job as a moderator of the Inn. And right now? We banned the last person to log share. The person who shared Kliss' logs was banned on the spot and we discussed if it should be permanent or temporary. I'm holding off on any action until you can resolve this. But, something needs to be done.
2645
2646
2647I have a strong impression that Seth is English Second Language. I understand that he may have some confusion or not completely understand the depth of his actions or statements. Language barriers do exist.   But, sharing logs from a warning is out of place.
2648
2649While Mangle did send the warning prematurely, and that's an issue all of it's own, he still shared those logs in our room.   If he had done that on Front Page? It wouldn't be our issue. But he did it in the Inn.
2650[4/4/2016 3:35:14 PM] cold ravioli: O.o. Today's been busy, I see.
2651[4/4/2016 3:35:27 PM] Dolly Damned: Hella
2652[4/4/2016 3:35:30 PM] Sejuani: Three warnings and a potential ban in one day.
2653[4/4/2016 3:36:34 PM] cold ravioli: Also the seth shit? They don't seem to understand that the Inn isn't a public room.
2654[4/4/2016 3:37:28 PM] Sejuani: That's a strong possibility.
2655[4/4/2016 3:38:02 PM] Alexander: just got back from doctor's. Gonna eat and take  the anti-biotic while I read up
2656[4/4/2016 3:38:13 PM] cold ravioli: Sorry to hear you're sick. that sucks.
2657[4/4/2016 3:38:27 PM] Iculas: Ten thousand dings.
2658[4/4/2016 3:38:55 PM] Iculas: and good lord paragraphs. Sejuani plz/.
2659[4/4/2016 3:40:15 PM] Alexander: Cheery's at it again
2660[4/4/2016 3:44:16 PM] cold ravioli: oh, btw, the thing sej reminded me. She mentione dthe rule about icon spam maybe being outdated... I kinda feel potentially the same way about 'scrolling'
2661[4/4/2016 3:44:28 PM] cold ravioli: scrolling was, to my understanding, put in place to prevent the chat from scrolling rp posts, yeah?
2662[4/4/2016 3:44:31 PM] cold ravioli: so.....
2663[4/4/2016 3:45:06 PM] Alexander: its also simple chat etiquette
2664[4/4/2016 3:45:30 PM] cold ravioli: Just a thought I had. I don't mind enforcing it, but it does seem potentially outdated.
2665[4/4/2016 3:56:39 PM] Iculas: If 3% of the channel's current populace all scroll at 3-4 posts a minute each you will have an F-list twitch chat where nothing can really be read.
2666[4/4/2016 3:56:51 PM] cold ravioli: Valid point.
2667[4/4/2016 3:58:29 PM] Iculas: I did the math one day near the end of last summer or early fall and explained it to somebody that was having problems with it. I think, maybe, it was That tasted purple.
2668[4/4/2016 4:00:33 PM] Iculas: The f-list chat window for me is about 30ish lines of text and the Inn had a little over 200 people in it at the time. realistically not that many people are active but when you do the math for minor scrolling, around 3-4, at 10% that is several pages of scroll  every minute. It's hard to argue that the scrolling rule is dumb against that sort of cold hard math.
2669[4/4/2016 4:01:26 PM] cold ravioli: I guess that assumes that 6 people would constantly scroll, though.
2670[4/4/2016 4:01:28 PM] Iculas: Because lets face it: most people that scroll will type out a few lines in a burst of ten or fifteen seconds or maybe thirty.
2671[4/4/2016 4:02:48 PM] Iculas: What compounds it is if it's not stopped people will start to do it more to help get their points across and by that time it's already hard to carry on a normal conversation. but mah free speech amirite? gg no surrdur@20
2672[4/4/2016 4:03:30 PM] cold ravioli: Fair point. Just a thought I had, after all.
2673[4/4/2016 8:30:18 PM] Iculas: https://www.f-list.net/c/skin%20contests Thoughts? Discussion? Get back to me on this eventually.
2674[4/4/2016 8:37:28 PM] The Mangle: I wanted to ask about it, since the user has been advertising such for a few days now. But I'm frankly not sure how to feel. :c
2675[4/4/2016 8:37:56 PM] Alexander: this is the same person who made that domestic abuse joke, btw
2676[4/4/2016 8:37:57 PM] cold ravioli: Imean, we can just ask them not to advertise.
2677[4/4/2016 8:41:26 PM] Iculas: I actually think it's quite amazing. Eden brought it up to site staff to make sure it didn't violate certain rules and I had to bite my tongue to say "I wish more people saw things like this about the League community."
2678[4/4/2016 8:41:50 PM] cold ravioli: I don't see anything wrong with it, per se.
2679[4/4/2016 8:43:37 PM] Iculas: But uhhh... she asked, twice now, if there were some way we could make it official with the Inn. I didn't exactly pull out just what she had in mind and I feel like the user is... a little... difficult to talk to. But it seems benign. I wanted everybody to discuss it and everything. Weigh out the possible negative things involved, how it makes everyone feel, concerns, what it would do to Sejuani's butt. The usual.
2680[4/4/2016 8:44:40 PM] Alexander: I mean the contest idea itself sounds nice. Its the individual in question who's proposing it that makes me a bit hesitant
2681[4/4/2016 9:43:36 PM] Sejuani:  I'm back ~_~ I ended laying down and taking an unplanned nap after handling all that nonsense.   
2682
2683Catching up.
2684[4/4/2016 9:44:10 PM] Alexander: naps are nice
2685[4/6/2016 6:47:27 PM] Dolly Damned: I'm not really a fan of the gap Trist is making but I wanted to know what you guys thought :x
2686[4/6/2016 6:49:17 PM] Iculas: It's not particularly disruptive but my mind is fried.  I'm going to go eat dinner.
2687[4/6/2016 6:49:33 PM] Dolly Damned: o7
2688[4/6/2016 6:50:26 PM] Sejuani: I'd say Tristana is fine.
2689[4/6/2016 6:50:37 PM] The Mangle: I don't think it's too bad. I admire the dedication to keeping Tristana and Riggle separate in roleplay. But, if it grates on others, I'd just suggest asking her to Ax the gap and instead highlight Riggle's actions in red.
2690[4/6/2016 6:50:52 PM] Dolly Damned: Des des, that's why I was asking
2691[4/10/2016 3:03:07 AM | Edited 3:04:36 AM] The Mangle: I'm going to leave a brief chatlog here for everyone to mull over. In short, Captain Volibear sent me a screenshot while I was asleep of a user acting up, asking if it'd be relevant by the time I saw it and if something should be done about it. This would have been fine if slimcat notified me of the message, but I only now saw the log. It was from mid day yesterday, April 9th.
2692
2693https://gyazo.com/8523146f5b524f9681c3fb88f17e1a66
2694
2695This is all he supplied, if need be I can dig up text logs. In short, our favorite twerp purple yordle acted up on an alt, claiming to throw a user on ignore for not laughing at their sarcasm. They said some not so favorable words, and I'd like the verdict on this. It's entirely my fault for not seeing this sooner, so I'm very sorry information has come in late.
2696[4/10/2016 3:22:54 AM] cold ravioli: yeah, you don't do that shit
2697[4/10/2016 3:23:00 AM] cold ravioli: mooznie was a bit out of line, too
2698[4/10/2016 3:23:04 AM] cold ravioli: but yeah, you don't do that
2699[4/10/2016 3:27:09 AM] cold ravioli: Seeing as they're on thin ice anyways, I'm inclined to say 'fuck 'em' and put them on time out
2700[4/10/2016 3:31:22 AM] The Mangle: I'm inclined to agree. Or just go all out and ban them. I know we're all for reforming and such. But by this point, I think they're too much of a hassle to keep warning and prodding about these things. They aren't changing and continue to be an issue for the room and us.
2701[4/10/2016 5:54:14 AM] cold ravioli: just a note, I said it was okay for Crimson Night to do the mineecraft thing.
2702[4/10/2016 8:40:33 AM] Iculas: I'll put Xia on the channel's ban list if they ever manage to get unbanned from the site.
2703[4/10/2016 8:56:21 AM] The Mangle: Well uh. I guess that settles that then.
2704[4/10/2016 1:07:57 PM] Sejuani: I am slowly recovering from last night, but it's unfortunate to hear they are flat out site banned. But, I can imagine and guess as to why.
2705[4/10/2016 1:13:03 PM] Iculas: I'll be blunt about it: You shouldn't be sorry for that and we should have tossed this person out of the channel a long time ago. It sucks but if they're going to keep harassing people they can go elsewhere.
2706[4/10/2016 2:40:25 PM] cold ravioli: Is... xia the 'shaco not stirred' person, and the lulu and all that?
2707[4/10/2016 2:41:08 PM] Dolly Damned: https://www.f-list.net/c/That%20tasted%20purple
2708[4/10/2016 2:41:17 PM] Dolly Damned: Yeaaaaaaah
2709[4/10/2016 2:41:33 PM] cold ravioli: Ah. Well, a shame it had to come to that, but if they're not gonna improve, then that's what happens.
2710[4/15/2016 4:26:13 PM] The Mangle: I'm going to leave this here, and give it around ten minutes to simmer with you all, as I'm about to speak with the user.  Thus, if anyone would like to instead, be my guest.
2711
2712Captain Volibear informed me of an issue arising in the Inn. In short, Neon Vi ( https://www.f-list.net/c/neon%20vi/ ) began harassing Vandalizada ( https://www.f-list.net/c/vandalizada/ ) over their gender and orientation. Citing them as boring due to the character and generic based on their preferences. The Jinx (Apologies, that name is a pain to remember correctly.) took it in stride, but Neon Vi's ruthless bashing of the user's choices was honestly disgusting. But, logs here for you all to decide; http://pastebin.com/1aUk8QCv Note: I cleaned up fluff in between the two's posts and left in only their posts and others prodding the conversation at hand. The rest was Match sharing and casual roleplay.
2713[4/15/2016 4:29:57 PM] Iculas: I just woke up but I am handling this.
2714[4/15/2016 4:30:19 PM] The Mangle: Okie doke. Have at it, Ma'am. o7
2715[4/15/2016 4:48:11 PM] Iculas: Attach to previous report. Final Boss Veigar: Handled and alts voluntarily removed. User didn't even try to argue, which was smart. He should have known better.
2716http://prntscr.com/asron4
2717[4/15/2016 5:10:00 PM] Iculas: [05:39 PM] Pale Diana: [04:41 PM]   Neon Vi : It is really hard for me to take you serious as you are probably in the 300's on the f-list Jinx assembly line and how you are surprise surprise, a gay shemale.
2718
2719^ For the above, among other things, I have removed you from the League of Legends Inn for three days. I'm going to be incredibly blunt about this. If I ever see you treating another user in such a manner this will become permanent. Do not circumvent this timeout by utilizing another character as it will only escalate matters. Am I clear?
2720[05:39 PM] Neon Vi: You are clear
2721[05:41 PM] Pale Diana: Excellent, I sincerely do not ever want to see this sort of behavior in the Inn out of anybody but I trust you will take this warning to heart. I do hope your day improves. 
2722[06:01 PM] Neon Vi: May I ask why what little I said lead to a three day ban when in other cases with other people(not including me) have lead to arguments where nothing was even done.
2723
2724I stand corrected.
2725[4/15/2016 5:10:38 PM] Iculas: They signed out after making that incredibly foolish question. I'm not going to hunt them down to reply.
2726[4/15/2016 5:37:59 PM] Sejuani: This is absolutely pitiful. I can't believe they behaved that way.
2727[4/15/2016 5:47:44 PM] Iculas: I can because they've done it before, they've also not reported things multiple times just so they could go on a tirade about how the moderators for the channel were shit. I'll send you my last conversation with them in private.
2728[4/15/2016 9:03:14 PM] Iculas: This is turning into a very lengthy ordeal.
2729[4/15/2016 9:07:10 PM] Dolly Damned: I take it they're battling it
2730[4/15/2016 9:08:16 PM] Sejuani: Did I miss something while DCed?
2731[4/15/2016 9:12:06 PM] Sejuani: Is Veigar really trying to argue this? Or, did something new crop up while I was DCed?
2732[4/15/2016 9:13:57 PM] Iculas: Like an idiot. They had the audacity to imply they got a three day timeout due to my dislike of them.
2733[4/15/2016 9:14:39 PM] Sejuani: Would you like to transfer them?
2734[4/15/2016 9:15:09 PM] Iculas: No, I'm fairly certain they are absolutely mortified at the moment.
2735[4/15/2016 9:16:02 PM] Sejuani: As you desire. Let me know if you need me to step in, though.   I' just got dinner out of the oven, so I'm having a late dinner and watching some Netflix, but I should be around (Comcast permitting.)
2736[4/16/2016 3:04:15 AM] Iculas: Report log: Final Boss Veigar
2737tl;dr Neon Vi was reported for going off on a Jinx in channel during which they targeted their choice of character, sexual preference, how they played the character and their chosen gender. After being delivered a three day timeout they approached me to discuss the harshness of their punishments. During such they admitted to placing the user on ignore while continuing to ridicule them in public. This user should know better. 
2738Channel logs full of fluff but more context: http://pastebin.com/LULW5gLG
2739Moderation logs: http://pastebin.com/EJKZa8xg
2740[4/17/2016 1:22:27 PM | Edited 1:22:33 PM] Sejuani: So, I received a complaint earlier today. It seems Zyra jokingly kicked someone and now not only them but also their friend is upset over it and filed a formal complaint. 
2741
2742My Friend got booted for stupid shit
2743Sent 3h, 29m ago, by Minette to Sejuani
2744http://i.imgur.com/eUaKuGW.png
2745"[11:47]The Sadistic Artist: Please do, i've been here for like a day and already feel unwanted.
2746[11:47]The Sadistic Artist: Which is a very not nice feeling.
2747It's kind shitty thing to do period, mainly if you don't know them.
2748Alright that's all I have to bitch about."
2749
2750Normally, I would take most things said by Minette with a grain of salt. But, I do know The Sadistic Artist is a newer member to the League community. I imagine, unless anyone has input otherwise, we give an apology to The Sadistic Artist and speak to The Risen Thorn about joking kicks?
2751[4/17/2016 1:25:35 PM] Alexander: It seems sorta half joking. I'm assuming they don't care much for being called Zyrone
2752[4/17/2016 1:26:31 PM] Sejuani: It seems so.
2753[4/17/2016 1:28:20 PM] Alexander: I believe an apology would be in order and a discussion with Zyra about it. Regardless of one's stance on joking kicks, that seems slightly less joking as it does using one's power as a mod to get a point across in a somewhat abrasive manner.
2754[4/17/2016 1:30:36 PM] Dolly Damned: ^ all of this
2755[4/17/2016 1:32:18 PM] Sejuani: Restarting computer, quickly brb.
2756[4/17/2016 1:32:55 PM] Alexander: Personally, I'm one who's perfectly fine with completely joking kicks, so long as its done in purely good humor with someone who knows what's going on and no one takes it as any sort of intent to actually perform a moderation action (hell, I kick myself when its funny) but that really doesn't come across as a joke.
2757[4/17/2016 3:41:56 PM] cold ravioli: Also, the last time there was a 'joke' kick, pretty sure people got pissed. So, going off of precedent...
2758[4/17/2016 5:48:54 PM] Iculas: That was both not a joke kick nor a formal complaint. That was somebody griping.
2759[4/17/2016 6:09:03 PM] Iculas: "i've been here for like a day" yet one of my troll characters was banned months ago and I've been taking pot shots at one of the Channel Operators for the Inn for about a week because I'm a passive aggressive little shit that really just wants to get away with harassment.
2760[4/17/2016 6:09:48 PM] cold ravioli: I'm not saying they're being 100% reasonable, but joke kicks are a nono, no?
2761[4/17/2016 6:12:13 PM] Iculas: I will not entertain an apology for them getting kicked because they made a jab at a moderator after expressing their displeasure over being called something that annoys them. Yeah Zyrasaur did it for a somewhat personal reason but he was also stuck there watching the Inn.
2762[4/17/2016 6:14:22 PM] Iculas: Namely I'd have kicked them myself if I'd been awake for that. I'll probably start kicking them every time I catch a snide remark aimed at moderation as well. To provide some clarity this user is currently the only person we've had to remove from the Inn club on League.
2763[4/17/2016 6:14:48 PM] Sejuani: The Sadistic Artist is?
2764[4/17/2016 6:15:26 PM] Iculas: Yes. Bingo. I've been watching them make passive aggressive pot-shots at Eden for about a week.
2765[4/17/2016 6:15:52 PM] cold ravioli: Really? I've somehow missed that then? I haven't seen anyone taking pot shots at Eden.
2766[4/17/2016 6:16:08 PM] Sejuani: Odd.  The Sadistic Artist had a status relating to Eden earlier today, and I asked Eden about it.
2767
2768Eden acted like he was a friend or rp partner.
2769[4/17/2016 6:16:41 PM] Iculas: Yeah.... I believe she figured that out during or after the scene thought.
2770[4/17/2016 6:16:54 PM] Iculas: I saw a comment in the Butterfly about him.
2771[4/17/2016 6:17:10 PM] Iculas: Actually that may have been in discord.
2772[4/17/2016 6:17:18 PM] cold ravioli: It was, yes.
2773[4/17/2016 6:19:11 PM] Sejuani: I see.
2774[4/17/2016 6:19:39 PM] Sejuani: I was unaware that was him.
2775[4/17/2016 6:21:01 PM] cold ravioli: I'm still not on Zyra's side on this one. There's nothing in the rules saying that they're not to be called zyrone. And, furthermore, it eems like it was very much meant in a joking manner.
2776[4/17/2016 6:21:52 PM] Iculas: A joke kick is where you kick one of your friends out of the channel as a joke. Zyrasaur is not friends with that person, nor was he joking about that. I've seen him take being called Zyrone from friends before but I've also seen him displeased with it. It's why I call him Blossom Butt or Zyrasaur.
2777[4/17/2016 6:22:31 PM] Sejuani: Mutual respect to other users. When people were harassing Luden by calling her Lewden, we issued kicks inv the past. The same can be said for when people mocked Eden about four years ago, by making troll profiles of her characters. 
2778
2779Zyrasaur should have expressed he wanted them to stop more clearly, but I can see an argument for both sides.
2780[4/17/2016 6:23:01 PM] Iculas: RIP E d e n which is now canon btw.
2781[4/17/2016 6:27:18 PM] Iculas: But yes, I can certainly agree with that. If this person would have directly sent in the complaint I'd have likely put my foot in their butt. I pointed out the last passive aggressive remark they made towards Eden out to Sej when it happened. I expressed my disdain by squinting. 
2782
2783I'll let you guys keep discussing this if you want to while I go pour coffee and smoke, exercise ect. Personally though, I expect this user to start making comments about everybody now.
2784[4/17/2016 6:28:31 PM] cold ravioli: I dunno, I think it's a situation that's getting blown out of proportion.
2785[4/17/2016 6:28:44 PM] cold ravioli: Zyra shouldn't have kicked them, imo, but on the other hand, it's typically unwise to tease people you don't know
2786[4/17/2016 6:50:41 PM] Dolly Damned: We're not friends
2787[4/17/2016 6:51:55 PM] Dolly Damned: We're only going to be writing partners and that is it, but once I found out who it was after the scene... It was a toss up, I told them flat out that I'm not taking BS but I would like to carry on with what we have. I can put that aside for writing it's just... He asked me to help him work on his issues, and I do plan on helping him out but I am not his friend by a long shot
2788[4/17/2016 7:06:51 PM] Alexander: wat
2789[4/17/2016 7:07:55 PM] Iculas: I didn't think so. Honestly after how they acted with their troll character left a foul taste in my mouth. I genuinely didn't think he was trying to troll people, at least not like most of these people, but who wants to honestly roleplay as Trick 2 G on a fetish website because he changed their life. I mean come on. I felt like I was being trolled.
2790[4/17/2016 7:09:35 PM] Iculas: "I don't know why i'm being persecuted for who I really am."
2791[4/17/2016 11:13:17 PM] Dolly Damned: User https://www.f-list.net/c/The%20Real%20Ezreala
2792TL;DR Icon spam after I told the chat to stop, not anything major but for orderly sake because I did kick them posting the report.
2793Screenshot http://prnt.sc/atm40m
2794Channel Logs http://pastebin.com/EgwZyPiK
2795After the Kick http://pastebin.com/ZmfFVegd
2796[4/18/2016 8:09:14 PM | Edited 8:09:23 PM] Sejuani: Cheery, McCree (Prince Jarvan,) and Shyvana were getting a bit heated with a mechanics discussion. Delivered an informal warning to them all, but if you see them start back up, deliver a formal warning and 24 hour time out.
2797[4/19/2016 5:49:39 PM] cold ravioli: I'm removing Ester from the Inn.
2798[4/19/2016 5:50:57 PM] cold ravioli: http://prntscr.com/aued2c
2799[4/19/2016 5:51:01 PM] cold ravioli: working on full report now
2800[4/19/2016 5:52:12 PM] cold ravioli: a note, the 'boop' was to show that they had ignored me, since the message had disappeared do to goign to a different tab
2801[4/19/2016 5:57:42 PM] cold ravioli: reporting users: Ester (https://www.f-list.net/c/ester/ ) and Moonzie (https://www.f-list.net/c/moonzie/ )
2802Logs
2803Public: http://pastebin.com/6rYH6unc
2804Private (Moonzie): http://prntscr.com/aueems
2805Private (Ester): http://prntscr.com/aued2c
2806
2807Summary: Ester and Moonzie engaged in a debate about Evelynn as a champion, which got heated. The main issue here, in my opinion, is Ester, who was hostile in general, telling users to 'shut the fuck up', accusing people of not knowing what they are talking about, and referring to another user as an 'aspie' which, I assume, is short for asperger's. When spoken to, she was hostile, and incooperative.
2808[4/19/2016 5:57:47 PM] Alexander: Since they set you to ignore, want me to handle the message to them?
2809[4/19/2016 5:58:04 PM] cold ravioli: If you'd like to, go for it.
2810[4/19/2016 5:59:02 PM] Alexander: Logging on to Darius
2811[4/19/2016 5:59:11 PM] cold ravioli: She also left the room, fyi.
2812[4/19/2016 6:00:15 PM] Alexander: That's fine. Isn't going to save their ass for getting a swift kick
2813[4/19/2016 6:04:48 PM] Sejuani: Holy hell. Fuck a kick.
2814[4/19/2016 6:04:51 PM] Sejuani: 48 hour ban.
2815[4/19/2016 6:05:09 PM] The L: ^
2816[4/19/2016 6:05:11 PM] Sejuani: At minimum.
2817[4/19/2016 6:05:11 PM] Alexander: I was just thinking full ban
2818[4/19/2016 6:05:19 PM] The L: Ignoring staff should just be a ban imo
2819[4/19/2016 6:05:22 PM] cold ravioli: Moonzie, btw, was nothing but cooperative, and I do feel he meant what he said as a joke.
2820[4/19/2016 6:05:25 PM] Sejuani: This is Ester's first offense, even if an egregious one.
2821[4/19/2016 6:05:33 PM] The L: you do not get to pick and choose when you need to listen to authority
2822[4/19/2016 6:05:38 PM] Alexander: ^
2823[4/19/2016 6:06:28 PM] Sejuani: 48 hour ban, and pending how she reacts to Darius' message, we'll escalate from there. If she ignores you at any point, perm ban.
2824[4/19/2016 6:06:50 PM] Alexander: By your will.
2825[4/19/2016 6:07:02 PM] cold ravioli: It was really hard not to ban her as soon as she ignored me >.>
2826[4/19/2016 6:07:19 PM] Sejuani: I agree, she was an utter cunt and I would of been tempted to in your position as well.
2827[4/19/2016 6:07:38 PM] Alexander: If it makes you feel better I nearly did the same with Ezreal.
2828[4/19/2016 6:07:39 PM] Sejuani: If the user had any form of history within the Inn, this would be grounds for permanent removal. However, I'm trying to give them a second and final chance.
2829[4/19/2016 6:08:00 PM] cold ravioli: i woudln't bother, personally. They didn't seem interested. They ignored me, and left the room. I do think, rationally, you're probably right, but yeah.
2830[4/19/2016 6:08:33 PM] Sejuani: As for Moonzie, I didn't think he was that that bad. He was polite in his follow up and should be handled with the Kick, unless someone else opposes.
2831[4/19/2016 6:08:42 PM] cold ravioli: I oppose.
2832[4/19/2016 6:08:51 PM] cold ravioli: I think he was just trying to defuse Ester.
2833[4/19/2016 6:09:09 PM] cold ravioli: Who was nothing but hostile from word one.
2834[4/19/2016 6:09:32 PM] Sejuani: I misread your initial comments, and thought you had initially kicked both.  Thus I was saying it was already handled and defused. My apologies, I misread it.
2835[4/19/2016 6:09:35 PM] cold ravioli: Also, just a kick seems arbitrary, since he could just rejoin, and he's already been spoken to.
2836[4/19/2016 6:09:41 PM] cold ravioli: Oh, haha.
2837[4/19/2016 6:20:26 PM] Alexander: time out done and message sent. If they don't respond in the next 10-20 minutes I'll give a bump. If they set me to ignore too I'll ban them.
2838[4/19/2016 6:42:26 PM] Alexander: [19:42]Darius: Am I understood?
2839[19:42]Error code 20, Ester does not wish to receive messages from you.
2840[4/19/2016 6:42:49 PM] cold ravioli: RIP
2841[4/19/2016 6:42:54 PM] Dolly Damned: Rip
2842[4/19/2016 6:43:03 PM] *** Dolly Damned finally caught up, good timing ***
2843[4/19/2016 6:43:22 PM] Alexander: And done.
2844[4/19/2016 6:46:55 PM] Alexander: And thus we move on with our lives from that pain in the ass.
2845[4/19/2016 8:56:11 PM] Dolly Damned: I pulled them into private, Annie. Not to talk about her saying it in the room but to offer myself for an ear. Thought it'd be best to move that from the public in general given it should be something more private.  Offered to chat via skype as well but I also urge everyone, if possible to keep an eye on  https://www.f-list.net/c/Codename%20Zed
2846
2847Some small stuff if they're speaking in the room to either just nudge and help them out.  http://prntscr.com/aufsob Link is from the room logs, again not saying there in trouble because they're not, just given this has happened before in the past maybe keep an eye on for anything to help.
2848[4/19/2016 8:56:46 PM] cold ravioli: aight
2849[4/27/2016 3:44:52 PM] Sejuani: Who here (beyond Eden and Diana) is familiar with Syndra Sylvane?
2850[4/27/2016 3:45:04 PM] cold ravioli: I.
2851[4/27/2016 3:45:08 PM] The L: I'm not
2852[4/27/2016 3:46:13 PM] Sejuani: Josh? Mangle? Darius (when you get online?)
2853[4/27/2016 3:49:48 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: The name is vaguely familiar. Have they been around for a long while?
2854[4/27/2016 3:49:58 PM] Sejuani: They've been banned since 2014.
2855[4/27/2016 3:51:30 PM] Iculas: Darius is aware, on her last evasion she had him on ignore as well if I'm not mistaken.
2856[4/27/2016 3:52:27 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Hmmm. I may be familiar with their name, but I'm not familiar with what they did.
2857[4/27/2016 3:54:32 PM] Sejuani: I honestly believe this will be a case we'll have to discuss at length.  Diana and Eden will likely be sitting this one out, due to preexisting bias with this individual.
2858[4/27/2016 3:54:44 PM] Dolly Damned: ^
2859[4/27/2016 3:55:28 PM] Iculas: ^^^^^^ They were my Leona with Pale Diana.
2860[4/27/2016 3:55:49 PM] cold ravioli: Has it really been since 2014?
2861[4/27/2016 3:56:00 PM] Sejuani: Yup. They were banned before Shen stepped down.
2862[4/27/2016 3:56:02 PM] *** Dolly Damned mutters ***
2863[4/27/2016 3:56:20 PM] Iculas: Sat May 24 2014 00:09:12 GMT-0500 (Central Standard Time)
2864[4/27/2016 3:56:39 PM] cold ravioli: jeez, two years
2865[4/27/2016 3:56:42 PM] Iculas: ..... gmt-5 "central standard time"
2866[4/27/2016 3:57:03 PM] Iculas: Daylight savings time is hard.
2867[4/27/2016 4:04:17 PM] Iculas: I'd say their most notorious names were Guardian of the Sun(Now given to somebody else), Syndra Sylvane, Aether Wing, Quinn, Transcendent Irelia, and Fox of Ionia.
2868[4/27/2016 4:05:33 PM] Sejuani: On an unrelated side note.
2869[4/27/2016 4:06:14 PM | Removed 4:11:16 PM] Iculas: This message has been removed.
2870[4/27/2016 4:06:37 PM] Sejuani: Please be cautious when dealing with Kliss if she should act or do anything stupid. Please get in contact with me ASAP to handle her specifically if she should break any rules.   If I'm offline, please handle her as cautiously as you can.  
2871
2872Several of you are familiar with her case and why I'm saying this. For the sake of her privacy, I won't expand for those who don't. But, she's in a very sour place.
2873[4/27/2016 4:07:11 PM] Sejuani: I expect she'll be heavily drinking the next few days, and we've seen how she can act while drunk in the past.
2874[4/27/2016 4:09:36 PM] The L: ummm
2875[4/27/2016 4:09:52 PM] The L: ...okay I'll be the odd one out and kinda ask what's going on with that
2876[4/27/2016 4:10:03 PM] The L: cause this is the first I've heard of that name
2877[4/27/2016 4:10:32 PM] *** The L is usually not all to happy about people being made special exceptions for the rules either but figures something else is going on. ***
2878[4/27/2016 4:11:04 PM | Removed 4:11:20 PM] Iculas: This message has been removed.
2879[4/27/2016 4:13:07 PM] Sejuani: Kliss is a regular of our room, whose been in our community for years. You may recognize them as Guardian of Thraben or Broccoli.   They used to use the character Kliss until someone shared several of their logs in public, and they deleted the character.
2880[4/27/2016 4:13:09 PM] cold ravioli: Damnit, I missed it. Whatever it was.
2881[4/27/2016 4:13:11 PM] Iculas: My skype is pooping the bed. Also, Kliss is likely deleting her account soon. She's really not in a good place right now. I genuinely don't want to handle her either.
2882[4/27/2016 4:13:50 PM] Iculas: I deleted two messages that weren't going through while I typed on my phone so they wouldn't double post.
2883[4/27/2016 4:13:56 PM] cold ravioli: ah.
2884[4/27/2016 4:14:01 PM] The L: I can understand being in a bad place but they aren't the type the cause a lot of trouble on purpose right?
2885[4/27/2016 4:14:19 PM] The L: Cause if so then I don't seem em being much of a problem
2886[4/27/2016 4:14:44 PM] Iculas: They're generally benign but they are on their last legs. Ugh....
2887[4/27/2016 4:14:59 PM] Dolly Damned: I've never seen them make issues in private myself; can't tell about anyone else though
2888[4/27/2016 4:15:07 PM] Dolly Damned: public*
2889[4/27/2016 4:15:11 PM] *** The L is going to sound like an ass for this but is just saying just because this person is in a bad place doesn't mean they should be getting special treatment if they've already been getting in trouble. ***
2890[4/27/2016 4:15:14 PM] The L: But that's just me
2891[4/27/2016 4:15:22 PM] Sejuani: They're not typically a problem, but the last week or so I've had to speak to them a few times in private. They've been getting pretty drunk late at night.
2892[4/27/2016 4:15:30 PM] Dolly Damned: I agree with him
2893[4/27/2016 4:15:37 PM] cold ravioli: Do  you guys know the context?
2894[4/27/2016 4:15:39 PM] The L: it'd be no different if I had a bad day and starting banning people left and right on a whim and expected you guys to give me slack because I was just 'pissy'
2895[4/27/2016 4:15:48 PM] Dolly Damned: Bad place or not... if it was anyone else they wouldn't be given special treatment
2896[4/27/2016 4:15:48 PM] cold ravioli: It's a bit more than 'had a bad day'
2897[4/27/2016 4:15:54 PM] Sejuani: If you understood the context, you would understand why.
2898[4/27/2016 4:16:13 PM] The L: I don't understand the context hence why I went with something more generic
2899[4/27/2016 4:16:26 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah. I feel what  y'all are saying though.
2900[4/27/2016 4:16:30 PM] Iculas: The most they do is scroll and be annoying. Honestly I know what's up and it's one of the reasons I've been leaving myself set to away/busy late at night just a little longer than I need.
2901[4/27/2016 4:17:47 PM] The L: then I don't see them being much of a issue unless they're going to freak out over a small warning
2902[4/27/2016 4:17:50 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, perhaps the context can be shared here? Or is it not worth the risk, however minimal?
2903[4/27/2016 4:20:20 PM] Sejuani: Because of the severity of the situation, I am not going to discuss it. This is an incredibly personal issue for Kliss, and this is not a matter of "a bad day" or even a bad week. 
2904
2905Some of you are familiar with what I went through in 2014. Imagine that level of severity and please drop it. 
2906
2907I was making a request as a fellow moderator and owner, because I've dealt with Kliss a lot these last few weeks. I doubt Kliss is going to be an issue, but I was politely asking you all to understand and please use kid gloves if you do have to speak to her.
2908[4/27/2016 4:21:30 PM] The L: if you doubt it I'll take your word for it and hope for the best
2909[4/27/2016 5:23:49 PM] Alexander: Alright I'm here. I know who Syndra Sylvane. Why is that... individual being brought up?
2910[4/27/2016 5:27:53 PM] Iculas: They're going to appeal their two year old ban.
2911[4/27/2016 5:28:59 PM] Sejuani: They approached me today on how to send a ban appeal. 
2912
2913They've spoken to me at length and I gave them the formal instructions. They'll be sending me a message soonish. Either today or in the immediate future.
2914[4/27/2016 5:30:39 PM] Sejuani: I've had a painfully long conversation with them today, and have a throbbing headache from it all. 
2915
2916But to summarize their appeal and why they're doing it? They understand what they did and feel bad about it. Despite that, they would like a second chance at the room. They mainly want an opportunity to lurk and join in on community hosted games and be able to approach League players who are set to looking.
2917[4/27/2016 5:31:15 PM] cold ravioli: Just giving my two cents here: 2 years is a long time.
2918[4/27/2016 5:31:30 PM] Alexander: They can do that on their own time. They don't need to be in our channel for that.
2919[4/27/2016 5:32:01 PM] cold ravioli: It IS the largest room for league.
2920[4/27/2016 5:32:27 PM] Alexander: That is hardly my concern on the matter.
2921[4/27/2016 5:33:19 PM] Sejuani: Then what is your thoughts and opinions, Darius?
2922[4/27/2016 5:33:26 PM] cold ravioli: What exactly were they banned for, anyways?
2923[4/27/2016 5:34:25 PM] Iculas: You know. If it hadn't taken a giant effort to find an Inn moderator that they didn't have on ignore the last time they ban evaded they'd likely not still be banned.
2924[4/27/2016 5:34:55 PM] cold ravioli: Should we just make that an official rule, perhaps?
2925[4/27/2016 5:35:22 PM] Iculas: They were actually banned before my time on the Inn's team. Not long after I got the Ashe name.
2926[4/27/2016 5:35:53 PM] Sejuani: That's a heated discussion in itself, Annie.
2927[4/27/2016 5:36:09 PM] Sejuani: They were primarily banned because of Caitlyn Johnston, and because I did think they were a bit of a cunt.
2928[4/27/2016 5:36:46 PM] Iculas: No. I'm actually fine with people ignoring one of us as long as they understand it might mean getting a few hours out of the channel til another mod comes online. I was just honestly fine with giving them a second chance considering how long they'd been banned.
2929[4/27/2016 5:37:44 PM] cold ravioli: That' smy main thought. 2 years is a long time to be banned for cuntiness. Don't get me wrong, my opinion of them is VERY low.
2930[4/27/2016 5:37:54 PM] Iculas: I thought Eden had more to do with it. To be fair their ban was kinda tacked onto adjective champion's. (Violent Vi)
2931[4/27/2016 5:38:04 PM] Sejuani: Long story short?
2932[4/27/2016 5:38:11 PM] Dolly Damned: I did lead the charge there, Yeah
2933[4/27/2016 5:38:37 PM] Dolly Damned: but, I was also in my own bad spot, and I'll admit that I was rather harsh on it all but I still think lowly of them.
2934[4/27/2016 5:38:53 PM] Iculas: I have a feeling the ban was 100% warranted given their general behavior in public and private.
2935[4/27/2016 5:38:54 PM] cold ravioli: I think it was a fine ban. Perhaps not totally 'by the books.'
2936[4/27/2016 5:38:57 PM] cold ravioli: But, again, 2 years.
2937[4/27/2016 5:39:08 PM] Iculas: Yeah that's a lot of time.
2938[4/27/2016 5:39:22 PM] Alexander: A ban is a ban.
2939[4/27/2016 5:40:44 PM] Iculas: I'm willing to entertain the thought. Honestly removing me from the vote probably hurts them more than helps. But that depends on how they write their appeal.
2940[4/27/2016 5:41:32 PM] Sejuani: You say that Darius, but I'm going to be blatant. The old administration had some major issues. 
2941
2942Caitlyn Johnston was the unofficial Senior Mod and had a lot of pull on Shen. Generally, unless it became a huge argument, her bans and favoritism saw a lot of people removed unfairly from the room. There's a reason why we put the clean slate policy into effect when Diana took over the room.
2943
2944It really was a needed movement.
2945[4/27/2016 5:45:03 PM] Iculas: The point of an appeal is to give them the chance to prove to us they understand what they did wrong and that they're sincere about not continuing to be an ass people. If they can behave and follow the rules I'm generally fine with people being there. The only people I've seen lately that made me not want to entertain the thought of appeal were Malcom Adams and Violent Vi. Granted there were people like -Rengar- that just got immediately banned again but that's beside the point.
2946[4/27/2016 5:45:58 PM] Alexander: I'll be blunt. The old administration had many issues, but there was a reason that individual was banned and it was a good one. The individual in question is one of the rare cases when I simply cannot condone the idea of allowing them beck. Malcolm attempted to offer an appeal. We denied him. Malcolm was a dick with a superiority complex but he pales compared to Sylvane.
2947[4/27/2016 5:46:51 PM] cold ravioli: I'd hold out judgement until after the appeal is submitted, personally.
2948[4/27/2016 5:47:16 PM] Iculas: I agree and I doubt they've changed but I owe them the chance. Malcom also refused to acknowledge he was ever really in the wrong.
2949[4/27/2016 5:49:41 PM] Sejuani: Syndra was banned back when only Shen, Caitlyn, Wukong, Karma, Eden, and myself were staff. 
2950
2951Karma was slowly losing activity due to the job hunt and Eden was dealing with her own personal issues, which was more than understandable.    At the time? Syndra was banned alongside Adjective Champion.
2952
2953Adjective Champion had caused a huge fuss in the Inn and Syndra publicly ranted about them and the moderators. They called Caitlyn and others useless and how we refused to ban anyone.   When Adjective Champion got banned, Syndra got swept up with them.
2954
2955
2956
2957However, Syndra already had a large reputation of being snarky. She was commonly rude and elitist. She had an unpleasant attitude from what I saw but I was never able to speak to her. Why?
2958
2959She had put Eden, Caitlyn, and myself on ignore.  Eden and Ashe were on ignore for their own reasons.  Caitlyn for lord knows why. I was on ignore I messed up.  Not as a moderator but as an user. She had every reason to block and ignore me and I won't go into detail on anyone else but my own.  I approve and understand her ignoring me, so when she got in trouble and was being banned, I didn't really step u and stop it. 
2960
2961
2962But it's been almost two years. 
2963
2964When we did the clean slate policy, we kept a few names on ban because we needed to discuss them. We knew they were still potential problems and we'd appeal them as they came in. Diana wanted to keep Syndra on there for personal reasons. I respected that, because I honestly didn't expect for us to deal with Syndra anytime soon.  We removed all her banned names but Syndra and Vicious Vi was spotted in the room one day. I wanted to contact a global, but instead we just booted her and we kept her ban cemented in place for ban evasion. 
2965
2966
2967It's been almost a year and she's finally asking about an appeal. 
2968
2969Syndra was toxic, but I don't see how she was any worse than some of our current problem children. And I just spoke to her, at length, for nearly three hours. She at least deserves a chance to appeal and be properly discussed. 
2970
2971She even mentioned some moderators may be biased to her coming back in. She said she knew this may be pointless, but she wanted to ask me anyway. I sincerely believe she's owed a discussion.  
2972
2973Why? 
2974
2975Malcolm refused to admit what he did. We were still going to give him a discussion until we saw he was site banned for a week for harassing another user. AKA what he got banned for to begin with.
2976
2977
2978Syndra did apologize for her prior actions and stated she had changed. If Malcolm was going to get a discussion, she at least deserves one too.
2979[4/27/2016 5:51:43 PM] cold ravioli: Just a note: worst case scenario, it's not hard to re-ban them, if they do pass the appeal, and then act up.
2980[4/27/2016 5:54:13 PM] Sejuani: I honestly believe Eden and Diana may need to step back from this one. If anyone else feels too close or biased about this, they may need to step back to or at least give us some light into why. 
2981
2982
2983Because I'll be honest with you.  After my incident with Syndra? I quit dealing with her.
2984
2985I had an unpleasant situation that I felt bad about, because I messed that one up. I blatantly offended her back then and while she exploded at me and blocked me, it was a fuck up of my own. I understand I got ignored. I have some idea as to why Eden and her didn't get along and I certainly understand Diana and her.  
2986
2987
2988But Darius, I don't know what your personal history is. I know she gave you Thresh and that's about it.
2989[4/27/2016 5:54:29 PM] *** Dolly Damned hasn't been talking ' ^ ' ***
2990[4/27/2016 5:54:46 PM] *** Sejuani will noogie you dorky. Was stating overall =p ***
2991[4/27/2016 5:55:59 PM] Dolly Damned: >:I
2992[4/27/2016 6:00:47 PM] Alexander: My personal history with them is brief and uninteresting. They were overall snide to me, blew up on me over something petty and then that ceased any conversation after that. I however know what they've done to most other people who I am or was close to at the time (Eden and Sej among others) and remember their behavior both in the League Inn, in other channels and in private. They're not someone I want around.
2993[4/27/2016 6:01:21 PM] cold ravioli: Any experience with them recently?
2994[4/27/2016 6:01:28 PM] Dolly Damned: Mmm
2995[4/27/2016 6:01:39 PM] *** Dolly Damned raises hand... ;; ***
2996[4/27/2016 6:01:57 PM] cold ravioli: What sort of experience?
2997[4/27/2016 6:03:36 PM] Dolly Damned: Zootopia room, (No judge circle right). Brief disagreement about character development with another user until... Idk which mod told them to stop. Once I found it was them I just stopped going to the room. Not saying that should be tagged on, I just wanted to state that's what I've seen of them recently.
2998[4/27/2016 6:05:10 PM] cold ravioli: First off, no judgement. 2nd off, I don't think it should be added on in like, an official capacity, but having not experienced someone for 2 years, it's hard to say what they're like now, so it's informative.
2999
3000That being said, people get in disagreements about shiz like that all the time. that doesn't seem too bad. Granted, I don't know the exact details, but yeah.
3001[4/27/2016 6:10:04 PM] Sejuani: I wasn't even aware there was a Zootopia room, and now I feel dumb for not realizing it sooner.   And I'm morbidly tempted to join it, but I'm also terrified :|
3002[4/27/2016 6:10:22 PM] cold ravioli: Of course there is.
3003[4/27/2016 6:10:34 PM] Dolly Damned: it's not thaaaat bad
3004[4/27/2016 6:10:57 PM] Alexander: Its that bad
3005[4/27/2016 6:11:13 PM] Dolly Damned: It really is ;;
3006[4/27/2016 6:11:26 PM] Alexander: I was just joking D:
3007[4/27/2016 6:11:35 PM] Dolly Damned: ;;
3008[4/27/2016 6:13:18 PM] Sejuani: Question.   Is Clawhauser the owner and receptionist of the room? Is he? That is the only way I'll accept it.
3009[4/27/2016 6:13:27 PM] Dolly Damned: ...
3010[4/27/2016 6:13:40 PM] Dolly Damned: He should of been. I was really upset too
3011[4/27/2016 6:13:49 PM] cold ravioli: I haven't seen the movie, but I've heard good things.
3012[4/27/2016 6:13:59 PM] *** Dolly Damned holds her Judy close ***
3013[4/27/2016 6:14:11 PM] Alexander: Clawhauser is best
3014[4/27/2016 6:14:17 PM] Dolly Damned: Hands down
3015[4/27/2016 6:14:21 PM] Dolly Damned: THee best fucking character
3016[4/27/2016 6:14:26 PM] Sejuani: Indeed he is.
3017[4/27/2016 6:14:29 PM] Iculas: I'm going to go eat my dinner before it gets cold.
3018[4/27/2016 6:14:40 PM] Sejuani: Oh no! Icky go eat q-q Don't stay
3019[4/27/2016 6:14:41 PM] Dolly Damned: Before you go
3020[4/27/2016 6:14:48 PM] Dolly Damned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfaiwKSqfuU
3021[4/27/2016 6:14:57 PM] Alexander: ....
3022[4/27/2016 6:15:05 PM] Alexander: Eden's final form.
3023[4/27/2016 6:16:10 PM] *** Dolly Damned does the dance ***
3024[4/27/2016 6:17:02 PM] Alexander: I mean... I'm not interested in Gazelle... but DAT ASS
3025[4/27/2016 6:18:26 PM] cold ravioli: Something something horns make good handles
3026[4/27/2016 6:18:49 PM] Alexander: those would make good handles
3027[4/27/2016 6:18:58 PM] Dolly Damned: pls
3028[4/27/2016 6:19:06 PM] Iculas: Eden plz
3029[4/27/2016 6:19:16 PM] Dolly Damned: YOU WISH YOU HAD A TIGER FORM
3030[4/27/2016 6:19:22 PM] Dolly Damned: I HAVE BEOCME THE UDYR
3031[4/27/2016 6:19:35 PM] Alexander: ....
3032[4/27/2016 6:19:41 PM] Iculas: Udyn skin confirmed.
3033[4/27/2016 6:19:56 PM] *** Alexander will now go shamefully search something on rule34 ***
3034[4/27/2016 6:20:09 PM] Dolly Damned: Good.
3035[4/27/2016 6:20:19 PM] cold ravioli: No shame.
3036[4/27/2016 6:20:20 PM] Dolly Damned: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOBHcZFknQE
3037[4/27/2016 6:21:20 PM | Edited 6:21:22 PM] Dolly Damned: One of the characters I've always wanted to write with but none are around
3038[4/27/2016 6:24:02 PM] Alexander: http://img.rule34.xxx//images/1841/700c67000bc425471228af0c56694f85f34d7916.jpg?1991639 enjoy. totally NSFW
3039[4/27/2016 6:24:15 PM] Dolly Damned: Barbs <3
3040[4/27/2016 6:24:35 PM] cold ravioli: Wow, lewd. I thought this was a christian chat.
3041[4/27/2016 6:24:42 PM] Dolly Damned: Please.
3042[4/27/2016 6:25:58 PM] Alexander: Is this not the Donald Trump support group?
3043[4/27/2016 6:26:33 PM] *** Dolly Damned stands up. "Hello... My name Is Eden and I'm... A Bernie Supporter." ***
3044[4/27/2016 6:26:44 PM] cold ravioli: Hi Eden.
3045[4/27/2016 6:26:48 PM] Alexander: Feeeeeeel the Bern
3046[4/27/2016 6:27:09 PM] *** Dolly Damned sits back down in her chair. Shifty eyes all around. ***
3047[4/27/2016 6:27:40 PM] Alexander: S'alright Pickles. I'm a Sanders supporter too.
3048[4/27/2016 6:27:52 PM] Dolly Damned: Heck yeah!
3049[4/27/2016 6:28:10 PM] Dolly Damned: but I'm not being a nerd here. Sorry fam
3050[4/27/2016 6:28:21 PM] Alexander: You just said fam.
3051[4/27/2016 6:28:25 PM] Alexander: Ergo nerd.
3052[4/27/2016 6:28:37 PM] Dolly Damned: I'VE SAID FAM FOR MONTHS NOW
3053[4/27/2016 6:28:51 PM] Alexander: so have all the other nerds
3054[4/27/2016 6:32:54 PM] The Mangle: I'm awake and catching up.
3055[4/27/2016 6:45:23 PM] The Mangle: Well. That's not as bad as I thought it'd be. The catching up, aspect. I hadn't realized a good half of these 100+ unread messages was Zootopia talk. :y
3056
3057But on a more realistic note. I've no idea the specifics of what the user in question did nor was I highly active when it could have happened. At that point? I lurked the room, never spoke and basically used it to find League roleplayers. But. I do firmly believe in the ability to reform. Whether that's a boon or a bane on my end is up for debate. If they're sincere about wanting an appeal and acknowledged the possible biased they may have to face? I'd say it's fine to accept an appeal from them. Worst case scenario is another ban, no? Not the biggest hurdle I've ever seen.
3058[4/28/2016 6:15:41 PM] Alexander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6IUbraF9Oo with out a doubt, the best thing I've seen all day. I'm cracking up so hard.
3059[4/28/2016 6:16:08 PM] Sejuani: Reely? Shorely you mean this. 
3060https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTXfIQaza4
3061[4/28/2016 6:37:53 PM | Removed 6:38:00 PM] Sejuani: This message has been removed.
3062[4/28/2016 6:38:04 PM] Dolly Damned: o.O
3063[4/28/2016 6:38:49 PM] Alexander: o.o
3064[4/28/2016 6:39:14 PM] Sejuani: What? `^`
3065[4/28/2016 6:39:50 PM] Dolly Damned: ' ^ '
3066[4/28/2016 6:40:12 PM] *** Sejuani accidentally reposted the Goblin video in here `^` So sue me. ***
3067[4/28/2016 6:40:26 PM] cold ravioli: goblin video?
3068[4/28/2016 6:40:35 PM] Sejuani: Scroll up to Darius' link.
3069[4/28/2016 6:40:36 PM] Dolly Damned: And you didn't share with the class?
3070[4/28/2016 6:40:48 PM] Sejuani: He already shared it, D'Va the Doll.
3071[4/28/2016 6:41:02 PM] *** Dolly Damned poses. "FOR THE SUBS!" ***
3072[4/28/2016 6:41:06 PM] Alexander: glad its good enough that you're sharing it <3
3073[4/28/2016 6:41:10 PM] cold ravioli: oooh
3074[4/28/2016 6:41:11 PM] Dolly Damned: She is my second overwatch Waifu
3075[4/28/2016 6:41:55 PM] Dolly Damned: Symmetra best overwatch lady ;A;
3076[4/28/2016 6:42:06 PM] Sejuani: I'm fond of Mercy, myself.
3077[4/28/2016 6:42:17 PM] The L: I wanna get it for the sake of playing Lucio myself
3078[4/28/2016 6:42:23 PM] The L: Dj Healer? I can dig it
3079[4/28/2016 6:42:25 PM] Sejuani: Though, I do like Pharah.
3080[4/28/2016 6:42:28 PM] Dolly Damned: DIG IT!
3081[4/28/2016 6:42:38 PM] *** cold ravioli is casual and doesn't really know shit. I like McCree. Like everyone else. ***
3082[4/28/2016 6:43:02 PM] Dolly Damned: Hanzo husbando
3083[4/28/2016 6:43:04 PM] *** Dolly Damned chinhands ***
3084[4/28/2016 6:43:21 PM] *** Alexander cough. Widowmaker. ***
3085[4/28/2016 6:44:09 PM] Dolly Damned: Sym for days
3086[4/28/2016 6:45:07 PM] Alexander: actually I really like.... uhh... don't remember her name. The one with the glasses
3087[4/28/2016 6:45:15 PM] Dolly Damned: Mei!
3088[4/28/2016 6:45:23 PM] Dolly Damned: Third waifu.
3089[4/28/2016 6:45:36 PM] Alexander: Her
3090[4/28/2016 6:46:14 PM] Dolly Damned: Here, tossing you porn in pm then
3091[4/28/2016 6:46:42 PM] cold ravioli: Share with the class >:U
3092[4/28/2016 6:47:01 PM] Dolly Damned: https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20climatologist here, then. ' ^ '
3093[4/28/2016 6:47:09 PM] The L: Lucio, Mc Cree, Junkrat, Zenyatta, and maybe Reinhardt
3094[4/28/2016 6:47:15 PM] The L: are all the characters I wanna play
3095[4/28/2016 6:47:38 PM | Edited 6:47:47 PM] Dolly Damned: Symmetra, D.Va, Mei, Hanzo and Tracer
3096[4/28/2016 6:47:51 PM] Dolly Damned: Those are the ones I wanna play in order ;A;
3097[4/28/2016 6:48:25 PM] cold ravioli: Who's the gorilla? I wanna main him.
3098[4/28/2016 6:48:30 PM] Dolly Damned: Winston
3099[4/28/2016 6:48:39 PM] *** Dolly Damned displays her tacobell cup proudly ***
3100[4/28/2016 6:48:54 PM] cold ravioli: Wait, the monkey's name is actually winston?
3101[4/28/2016 6:48:57 PM] Dolly Damned: yeah
3102[4/28/2016 6:49:04 PM] cold ravioli: I thought Dunkey was just making a reference to an old movie featuring a monkey
3103[4/28/2016 6:49:11 PM] Dolly Damned: I haven't been exited for a game since DA:I
3104[4/28/2016 6:49:34 PM] cold ravioli: oooh that movie was dunston checks in, not winston
3105[4/28/2016 6:50:09 PM] Sejuani: Did you make that for Mei, Eden?
3106[4/28/2016 6:50:19 PM] Dolly Damned: Mmhmm
3107[4/28/2016 6:50:23 PM] Dolly Damned: That's my page.
3108[4/28/2016 6:50:29 PM] Sejuani: ... Would you want to make one for Mercy? `^`
3109[4/28/2016 6:50:35 PM] Dolly Damned: Of course
3110[4/28/2016 6:50:46 PM] Dolly Damned: after I'm not revamping D.VAs page @_@;
3111[4/28/2016 6:51:01 PM] Sejuani: No rush. It would be appreciated, though.
3112[4/28/2016 6:51:14 PM] Dolly Damned: Eden, D.VA, Mei and Tracer
3113[4/28/2016 6:51:21 PM] Dolly Damned: those are the ones I have for Overwatch
3114[4/28/2016 6:51:36 PM] Sejuani: I have a Mercy and Widowmaker, myself.
3115[4/28/2016 6:52:15 PM] Dolly Damned: Ye
3116[4/28/2016 6:52:49 PM] The L: shit is Lucio taken?
3117[4/28/2016 6:52:50 PM] The L: ...
3118[4/28/2016 6:52:52 PM] The L: actually nm
3119[4/28/2016 6:53:00 PM] The L: I shouldn't go for the name like that
3120[4/28/2016 6:53:04 PM] The L: I WILL PLAY HIM
3121[4/28/2016 6:53:08 PM] Dolly Damned: haha
3122[4/28/2016 6:53:19 PM] The L: AND PEOPLE WILL KNOW ME FOR MY AMPLICATION REMIX
3123[4/28/2016 6:53:33 PM] The L: and finally that one pic of Ottie dressed as Beat will actually have a purpose
3124[4/28/2016 6:53:45 PM] Dolly Damned: Ooo
3125[4/28/2016 6:56:07 PM] Sejuani: Ooooh, before I forget (As I was mentioning it in another chat.)
3126[4/28/2016 6:56:30 PM] Sejuani: Sonic is doing 1 dollar specialty hot dogs and chili cheese dogs and half priced shakes at 8:00PM.
3127[4/28/2016 6:56:42 PM] The L: Awwwww mang
3128[4/28/2016 6:56:55 PM] Sejuani: `^` I'mma about to go grab a peanut butter milkshake and a chili cheese dog for dinner.
3129[4/28/2016 6:56:55 PM] The L: the only Sonic up here is in the middle of nowhere West Side Chicago >:
3130[4/28/2016 6:56:56 PM] Alexander: :|
3131[4/28/2016 6:57:01 PM] Alexander: everywhere?
3132[4/28/2016 6:57:05 PM] Sejuani: Nation wide.
3133[4/28/2016 6:57:10 PM] Dolly Damned: Peanut butter shake <3
3134[4/28/2016 6:57:11 PM] The L: AHHHHHHHHHHH
3135[4/28/2016 6:57:13 PM] The L: SEJ WHY
3136[4/28/2016 6:57:18 PM] The L: NOW I'M HUNGRY
3137[4/28/2016 6:57:20 PM] cold ravioli: thanks for reminding me that I don't have a Sonic in montana
3138[4/28/2016 6:57:29 PM] Alexander: ....
3139[4/28/2016 6:57:31 PM] Alexander: to go out
3140[4/28/2016 6:57:32 PM] Sejuani: I am sorry for your loss, Annie :C
3141[4/28/2016 6:57:34 PM] Alexander: or not to go out
3142[4/28/2016 6:57:41 PM] cold ravioli: Also, I once had a bad experience with peanut butter shakes, and now I find them disgusting
3143[4/28/2016 6:57:44 PM] Dolly Damned: Annie
3144[4/28/2016 6:57:47 PM] Dolly Damned: win the loto
3145[4/28/2016 6:57:49 PM] Sejuani: http://fox2now.com/2016/04/28/margies-money-saver-1-hot-dogs-at-sonic-drive-in/
3146[4/28/2016 6:57:50 PM] Sejuani: See?
3147[4/28/2016 6:57:51 PM] cold ravioli: I'd love to
3148[4/28/2016 6:57:52 PM] Dolly Damned: come here for the wedding this summer
3149[4/28/2016 6:57:57 PM] Dolly Damned: and we'll go to sonic
3150[4/28/2016 6:58:00 PM] cold ravioli: I might try to do that anyways.
3151[4/28/2016 6:58:14 PM] cold ravioli: Hafta speak to parents and what-not though, since I've no money.
3152[4/28/2016 6:58:14 PM] Dolly Damned: Let us know ahead of time if you're gonna try so we can work around it :o
3153[4/28/2016 6:58:18 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, will do.
3154[4/28/2016 6:58:21 PM | Edited 6:58:27 PM] Dolly Damned: Yis
3155[4/28/2016 6:58:30 PM] cold ravioli: Don't diss me ;o;
3156[4/28/2016 6:58:35 PM] Dolly Damned: Wife pls ;;
3157[4/28/2016 6:58:45 PM] Sejuani: Obviously, Eden, your wedding present to Annie would be a plane ticket.
3158[4/28/2016 6:58:57 PM] Sejuani: Wait? What do you mean you give gifts to the bride? Nope, other way around for Annie.
3159[4/28/2016 6:59:00 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3160[4/28/2016 6:59:00 PM] cold ravioli: I don't think that's how wedding presents work.
3161[4/28/2016 6:59:04 PM] Sejuani: HEY
3162[4/28/2016 6:59:08 PM] Sejuani: WHO IS THE WEDDING PLANNER HERE?
3163[4/28/2016 6:59:12 PM] Dolly Damned: Sej, one moment
3164[4/28/2016 6:59:17 PM] Sejuani: NOW SHUT UP AND ENJOY YOUR MANDATORY LOBSTER COSTUME
3165[4/28/2016 6:59:17 PM] cold ravioli: I'mma send  you a blender, Eden. Even if you already ahve one.
3166[4/28/2016 6:59:25 PM] Dolly Damned: but...
3167[4/28/2016 6:59:29 PM] Dolly Damned: I don't... I don't blend things
3168[4/28/2016 6:59:37 PM] cold ravioli: So?
3169[4/28/2016 6:59:42 PM] Sejuani: Because you don't have a blender, obviously.
3170[4/28/2016 6:59:48 PM] Sejuani: Gosh Eden. Think about what you're saying.
3171[4/28/2016 7:00:00 PM] Alexander: She's right, you know.
3172[4/28/2016 7:00:08 PM] The L: Eden you should be happy to blend stuff
3173[4/28/2016 7:00:24 PM] The L: its exhilarating creating new life with blades of spinning death
3174[4/28/2016 7:00:42 PM] *** The L mostly does triple berry smoothies ***
3175[4/28/2016 7:00:52 PM] cold ravioli: Blenders are pretty dope. I should get myself one when I get you one.
3176[4/28/2016 7:01:03 PM] The L: COMBINE THE TWO
3177[4/28/2016 7:01:10 PM] The L: MEGA BLENDER
3178[4/28/2016 7:03:40 PM] Dolly Damned: FOUND IT
3179[4/28/2016 7:03:44 PM] Dolly Damned: http://i.imgur.com/frmQnch.png
3180[4/28/2016 7:04:55 PM] cold ravioli: 'a lovely red lobster'
3181[4/28/2016 7:04:56 PM] cold ravioli: classic
3182[4/28/2016 7:04:58 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3183[4/28/2016 7:05:30 PM] Sejuani: Um, hello, I didn't consent to that log sharing. I'm reporting you >:c
3184[4/28/2016 7:05:36 PM] *** Sejuani actually goes to go save that. ***
3185[4/28/2016 7:05:41 PM] Dolly Damned: ' ^ ' I ALWAYS ASK BEFORE POSTING TO TUMBLR!
3186[4/28/2016 7:06:21 PM] Sejuani: Also, I'll share this before I go.
3187[4/28/2016 7:06:21 PM] Sejuani: http://imgur.com/VMGrvDN
3188[4/28/2016 7:06:35 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3189[4/28/2016 7:06:48 PM] The L: OH
3190[4/28/2016 7:06:49 PM] The L: MY
3191[4/28/2016 7:06:50 PM] The L: GOD
3192[4/28/2016 7:06:55 PM] Dolly Damned: When in doubt, my chatlog tag will cheer you up!
3193[4/28/2016 7:06:58 PM] The L: I just fucking spit my chocolate milk
3194[4/28/2016 7:07:01 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3195[4/28/2016 7:07:37 PM] Dolly Damned: http://demaciandoll.tumblr.com/tagged/chatlogs/page/1
3196[4/28/2016 7:07:39 PM] *** Dolly Damned heart hands ***
3197[4/28/2016 7:07:44 PM] Dolly Damned: oh god, that preview
3198[4/28/2016 7:08:04 PM] cold ravioli: new OTP
3199[4/28/2016 7:13:35 PM] Alexander: sooo
3200[4/28/2016 7:13:46 PM] Alexander: did the $1 dog thing end at 8?
3201[4/28/2016 7:13:55 PM] Dolly Damned: starts
3202[4/28/2016 7:14:02 PM] Dolly Damned: if I recall, I might be wrong..
3203[4/28/2016 7:14:19 PM] Alexander: thing says its all day Thursday though '^'
3204[4/28/2016 7:14:33 PM] Sejuani: No, no, the half priced shakes start at 8:00.
3205[4/28/2016 7:14:44 PM] Sejuani: We waited for both `^` For hotdogs and shakes
3206[4/28/2016 7:14:52 PM] Alexander: oooo
3207[4/28/2016 7:14:59 PM] Alexander: damn I'm tempted
3208[4/28/2016 7:15:08 PM] Alexander: totally shouldn't
3209[4/28/2016 7:15:11 PM] Alexander: but damn....
3210[4/28/2016 7:15:17 PM] Dolly Damned: Do it
3211[4/28/2016 7:15:37 PM] Alexander: but I'd have to get dressed and everything D:
3212[4/28/2016 7:15:38 PM] cold ravioli: Do it, you only live once.
3213[4/28/2016 7:15:45 PM] *** Sejuani dons a Vader mask. "Just do it. Join the power of the Dark Side." ***
3214[4/28/2016 7:15:58 PM] Sejuani: .... You'll get to do the youngling thing if you do.
3215[4/28/2016 7:16:07 PM] *** Sejuani flees for the car. ***
3216[4/28/2016 7:16:16 PM] The L: BRING ME BACK SOME SHIT
3217[4/28/2016 7:16:27 PM] The L: actually wait bring me back a cherry limeade smoothie
3218[4/28/2016 7:16:32 PM] The L: knowing you you'd take me literally
3219[4/28/2016 7:16:34 PM] Alexander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuKiOx_e5QY
3220[4/28/2016 7:16:46 PM] Alexander: I believe this is what you want, Sej `^`
3221[4/28/2016 7:16:51 PM] Dolly Damned: Ooo
3222[4/28/2016 7:16:57 PM] Dolly Damned: They have the frozen ones now
3223[4/28/2016 7:17:12 PM] Dolly Damned: I wanna try the blue raspberry one
3224[4/28/2016 7:19:12 PM] Alexander: I will probably go if I can manage to stop myself from looking at more Mei porn..
3225[4/28/2016 7:19:25 PM] Dolly Damned: I'm not sorry
3226[4/28/2016 7:19:33 PM] Dolly Damned: HAVE YOU SEE THE SOURCE MAKER STUFF THO?
3227[4/28/2016 7:19:38 PM] Alexander: wuh?
3228[4/28/2016 7:19:44 PM] Dolly Damned: HOLD ON
3229[4/28/2016 7:19:49 PM] Alexander: oh god...
3230[4/28/2016 7:19:58 PM] cold ravioli: sfm though
3231[4/28/2016 7:20:10 PM] Alexander: sfm?
3232[4/28/2016 7:20:19 PM] cold ravioli: source film maker
3233[4/28/2016 7:20:24 PM] Alexander: oh
3234[4/28/2016 7:20:48 PM] Dolly Damned: NOT SAFE FOR WORK https://gfycat.com/PolitePointedIrrawaddydolphin
3235[4/28/2016 7:20:58 PM] Dolly Damned: This person makes sooooooo many of them
3236[4/28/2016 7:21:15 PM] Alexander: OH COME ON
3237[4/28/2016 7:21:21 PM] Dolly Damned: :D!
3238[4/28/2016 7:21:29 PM] Alexander: THAT'S NOT EVEN PLAYING FAIR, PICKLES
3239[4/28/2016 7:21:35 PM] Dolly Damned: And for some reason they hella ship D.VA and 76
3240[4/28/2016 7:21:48 PM] cold ravioli: fucking sfm. I love the future.
3241[4/28/2016 7:21:53 PM] Dolly Damned: Right?
3242[4/28/2016 7:21:56 PM] Dolly Damned: https://www.f-list.net/c/song
3243[4/28/2016 7:21:59 PM] Dolly Damned: Last row, spooks
3244[4/28/2016 7:22:18 PM] Dolly Damned: Apart from the first picture, first picture totes staying first forever
3245[4/28/2016 7:22:47 PM] cold ravioli: I'm surprised by the shemale tracer picture
3246[4/28/2016 7:23:05 PM] Dolly Damned: That one was tasteful to me
3247[4/28/2016 7:23:17 PM] cold ravioli: I'm not saying it's bad, just a surprise to see.
3248[4/28/2016 7:23:47 PM] *** Alexander is still busy being entranced by Mei's fat ass ***
3249[4/28/2016 7:24:02 PM] Alexander: Sorry... what? Did you say something? '^'
3250[4/28/2016 7:24:11 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3251[4/28/2016 7:24:18 PM] Dolly Damned: Here, let me send you to their tumblr
3252[4/28/2016 7:24:35 PM] Alexander: Oh God..
3253[4/28/2016 7:24:36 PM] Dolly Damned: http://galian-beast.tumblr.com/tagged/Mei Enjoy
3254[4/28/2016 7:26:57 PM] Alexander: Jesus... That glasses bounce
3255[4/28/2016 7:27:11 PM] Dolly Damned: The person like..
3256[4/28/2016 7:27:20 PM] Dolly Damned: Has a lot of body cues and it makes me super happy
3257[4/28/2016 7:27:43 PM] Alexander: needs sounds though :c
3258[4/28/2016 7:28:30 PM] Dolly Damned: I got you covered, https://gifsound.com/?gif=rule34-data-012.paheal.net/_images/5d00395904ce4925dc3c1723edc96feb/1766570%2520-%2520D.Va%2520Genji%2520Overwatch%2520SFMoneyshot%2520animated%2520source_filmmaker.gif&v=iEPTlhBmwRg&s=112
3259[4/28/2016 7:28:53 PM] *** Dolly Damned dies, so so so sorry ***
3260[4/28/2016 7:29:22 PM] *** Alexander facepalms ***
3261[4/28/2016 7:30:17 PM] *** Dolly Damned dies ***
3262[4/28/2016 7:32:00 PM] Alexander: http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fmy.mixtape.moe%2Fthlqvh.webm&t=Y2UxNmZlMTllZjlmZmQyYjNlNGM3N2U3ZDFkZmY3MDg2MGQ1ODgyNCxJOGVJRGdHQQ%3D%3D
3263[4/28/2016 7:32:13 PM] Dolly Damned: ^NSFW
3264[4/28/2016 7:32:29 PM] Alexander: yeah, that. Sorry
3265[4/28/2016 7:33:01 PM] Alexander: The thirst is too real
3266[4/28/2016 7:33:24 PM] Dolly Damned: XD
3267[4/28/2016 7:33:57 PM] Iculas: 204 messages while I was away. Help I'm trapped with nerds. ;3
3268[4/28/2016 7:34:50 PM] cold ravioli: "Everyone fails. Failure is just a moment in time. You must keep moving, and it too will pass."
3269
3270>riot's lore sucks
3271[4/28/2016 7:35:47 PM] Alexander: that is, admittedly, a pretty bad line.
3272[4/28/2016 7:36:24 PM] cold ravioli: No no, you misunderstand. I think that line is great, and was saying the 'riot's lore sucks' bit sarcastically.
3273[4/28/2016 7:36:38 PM] cold ravioli: I'm adoring Taliyah's story thus far.
3274[4/28/2016 7:36:54 PM] Alexander: I enjoy their new lore
3275[4/28/2016 7:36:58 PM] The L: wait what's wrong with hthat line? o3o
3276[4/28/2016 7:37:00 PM] The L: it makes sense
3277[4/28/2016 7:38:59 PM] Alexander: I find it has little gravitas compared to other lines concerning moving pass failure. The execution of wording is somewhat poor, though I get what they were going for. Its also not very palatable to say outloud.
3278[4/28/2016 7:39:00 PM] cold ravioli: As the captain’s body was knocked up, Yasuo was there to meet it, the cold blade cutting through the captain’s chest in three quick strikes. The body fell to the floor and was still.
3279
3280I don't care for that bit. It feels uh... I'unno, hamfisted?
3281[4/28/2016 7:40:05 PM] Dolly Damned: "HERE'S HIS ULT!"
3282[4/28/2016 7:40:28 PM] Alexander: Yeah that's kinda poor. a quick and unmemorable ending to the primary antagonist of the story.
3283[4/28/2016 7:41:19 PM] Alexander: I really liked the start of the story though. That opening line from the Captain was great.
3284[4/28/2016 7:43:43 PM] cold ravioli: Overall, I quite liked it. Particularly the idea that, perhaps an ancient god king rising from the sands isn't exactly a good thing.
3285[4/28/2016 7:44:18 PM] Alexander: the mention of Azir was pretty rad
3286[4/28/2016 7:45:11 PM] Alexander: The kind of issue I tend to have with most League things is a lot of the time they tend to... examine characters in sort of state of making them cooler by one upping each other
3287[4/28/2016 7:46:52 PM] cold ravioli: I could see that, yeah. Also uh... this seems present, yes? Which means there's CURRENTLY a Noxian invasion of Ionia.
3288[4/28/2016 7:47:34 PM] Alexander: I'm not entirely sure an invasion would be the appropriate term
3289[4/28/2016 7:47:54 PM] Alexander: but I'm sure conflicts and raids pop up frequently enough.
3290[4/28/2016 7:48:14 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, she came there as part of a noxian invasion fleet, yeah?
3291[4/28/2016 7:48:27 PM] cold ravioli: Maybe not fulls cale, but seems like there's definitely still active conflict.
3292[4/28/2016 7:48:47 PM] Alexander: hmm
3293[4/28/2016 7:48:56 PM] Alexander: Only good Ionian is a dead one
3294[4/28/2016 7:49:04 PM] Alexander: ... or one with a really nice ass
3295[4/28/2016 7:49:20 PM] cold ravioli: I dind't realize Ionians raised donkeys.
3296[4/28/2016 7:50:40 PM] Alexander: They do. They're named Shen and Zed
3297[4/28/2016 7:50:45 PM] Dolly Damned: HA
3298[4/28/2016 7:50:48 PM] cold ravioli: Savage.
3299[4/28/2016 7:50:55 PM] *** Dolly Damned though, as Usagi, fuck you for making fun of my master. ***
3300[4/28/2016 7:51:16 PM] Alexander: Bring it, bitch `^`
3301[4/28/2016 7:51:23 PM] Dolly Damned: FIGHT ME TIN CAN!
3302[4/28/2016 7:51:30 PM] *** Dolly Damned has the lil ninja put up her dukes ***
3303[4/28/2016 7:51:37 PM] *** Alexander headbutts ***
3304[4/28/2016 7:51:53 PM] *** Dolly Damned vanishes in shadows from impact, was behind him the whole time! ***
3305[4/28/2016 7:52:27 PM] *** Alexander elbow to face ***
3306[4/28/2016 7:52:28 PM] cold ravioli: Alistar hacks. so it still hits
3307[4/28/2016 7:52:36 PM] Dolly Damned: lawl
3308[4/29/2016 2:25:10 AM] cold ravioli: I despise Momma Kalista.
3309[4/29/2016 2:25:43 AM] The Mangle: Not gonna lie; She irks me too.
3310[4/29/2016 2:30:17 AM] cold ravioli: I do agree the rule could be amended, but I do not like the way she's handling it.
3311[4/29/2016 2:34:06 AM] Sejuani: I'm honestly mad.
3312[4/29/2016 2:34:10 AM] Sejuani: I'm legitimately mad.
3313[4/29/2016 2:34:29 AM] cold ravioli: She's a cunt.
3314[4/29/2016 2:34:34 AM] cold ravioli: And I'll be watching her.
3315[4/29/2016 2:35:29 AM] cold ravioli: So, shall we amend the rule? I don't think anyone will be against an outright ban on twitch memes.
3316[4/29/2016 2:35:50 AM] cold ravioli: Eh,s hould probably wait.
3317[4/29/2016 2:35:59 AM] Sejuani: I'm for it. But we'd need to wait for Ashe and the others.
3318[4/29/2016 2:36:04 AM] cold ravioli: yeah.
3319[4/29/2016 2:37:04 AM] cold ravioli: She also noted earlier that there is potential confusion with the 'scrolling' rule. And I do kind of agree. Despite their cuntiness recently, they recommended changing the word to 'flooding' rather than scrolling, and I do agree that that might be a bit more transparent to the likely small group pf people who are unclear what 'scrolling' means.
3320[4/29/2016 2:40:06 AM | Edited 2:41:56 AM] Sejuani: Kallista, user to user, I simply wanted to reassure you. You're not going to be banned for anything you say in private chat. I've moderated the Inn for going on six years, and am the functioning Co-Owner of the room. I've heard plenty of barbed comments in PMs and had plenty of shitty comments directed at me. That's alright. I understand people can't always get along. 
3321
3322I'm messaging you because I wanted to clearly express something. The Inn tries to moderate matters solely within the Inn. Private chats will rarely if ever come into play, and the primary time they do is when another user is being harassed via status messages. Beyond that, you've expressed a desire not to talk and I'll respect that. I simply wanted to reassure you that there's no repercussion for what happened. You disliked how I worded myself, and I can respect that. You have a right to respectfully argue the staff's actions. 
3323
3324We encourage it, because it keeps the moderation in check.
3325
3326I hope you have a wonderful night, and I hope this message wasn't too intrusive. 
3327
3328Does that seem respectful to send?
3329[4/29/2016 2:41:14 AM] cold ravioli: Seems fine to me. Might make it clearer that she's not being scolded at the beginning, so she's not all worried about the rest
3330[4/29/2016 2:41:55 AM] The Mangle: What Annie said. Fine, but a bit of clarity at the start may be for the better.
3331[4/29/2016 2:42:01 AM] Sejuani: Better clarity? Edited it.
3332[4/29/2016 2:42:17 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah, I like tha tmore.
3333[4/29/2016 2:47:59 AM] Sejuani: ... I legitimately had to reread what they said three or four times to understand them.
3334[4/29/2016 2:48:16 AM] Sejuani: This reply was off the walls bonkers: 
3335
3336"I am working on my temper because it's not healthy, and no, it's not intrusive, I appreciate it greatly, actually. It bothers me if rules are 'loose' and warnings are issued for what seems like nothing/isnt actually against the rules having moderated 1k+ chats(Elsewhere, not f-list), I've come to know rules can't be played with - that's an abusive of power. It bothers me immensely to see/think/perceive(Perceive in this case, it was a misunderstanding) anything like that. I don't mind 'polite'(I have my snark) discussions about it, but I never want to be all HUR FUCK YOU YOURE A TWAT LICKING DIRT EATING BLAHBLAH BLAH or whatever you know? 
3337
3338I rambled on, I do appreciate the message though, and just wanted to explain sort of if it even made sense, the reasoning."
3339[4/29/2016 2:49:03 AM] cold ravioli: seems fine to me. They're just explaining themselves a bit, although not exactly eloquently.
3340[4/30/2016 1:29:24 AM] Sejuani: Darius, Annie, Tryndamere, Mangle, and Ottie.  Try to be online and around at 8PM EST tomorrow. We should try and discuss and hammer out that ban appeal, it arrived tonight.
3341[4/30/2016 1:30:07 AM] *** Dolly Damned sits in the corner. ***
3342[4/30/2016 1:30:33 AM] *** Sejuani picks her up and out of the corner and puts her on the shelf instead. ***
3343[4/30/2016 1:30:43 AM] Dolly Damned: ....
3344[4/30/2016 1:30:48 AM] Dolly Damned: Don't you start with that shit too. XD
3345[4/30/2016 1:30:58 AM] Sejuani: `^` Good dolls are seen, not heard, missy.
3346[4/30/2016 1:31:08 AM] Dolly Damned: I'm not a good doll.
3347[4/30/2016 1:31:09 AM] *** Sejuani goes to get the needle and thread. ***
3348[4/30/2016 1:41:22 AM] cold ravioli: uh....
3349[4/30/2016 1:41:27 AM] cold ravioli: I mean,I'll do the best I can
3350[4/30/2016 1:41:31 AM] cold ravioli: that's literally right as pathfinder starts
3351[4/30/2016 1:41:37 AM] cold ravioli: I should be able to multitask well enough though
3352[4/30/2016 1:45:23 AM] The Mangle: As well, I'll try my best given my questionable sleep schedule.
3353[4/30/2016 1:47:10 AM] Sejuani: I was trying to accommodate both your sleep schedule and Ottie's work schedule.
3354[4/30/2016 1:50:08 AM] The L: I get off at 5pm tomorrow so I should be good for it
3355[4/30/2016 1:50:32 AM] Sejuani: 5PM Central so 6PM EST...
3356[4/30/2016 1:50:48 AM] Sejuani: We could try for 7:00 PM EST if that's better for you Annie. 
3357
3358Do you think you would be awake, Mangle?
3359[4/30/2016 1:52:01 AM] The Mangle: I'll force myself awake regardless of time you set. :v
3360[4/30/2016 1:58:00 AM] Sejuani: Then if no one has any complaints, 7:00 PM EST.
3361[4/30/2016 10:51:00 AM] Alexander: I probably won't be home.
3362[4/30/2016 10:51:30 AM] Alexander: But I downloaded Skype onto my phone so I should be good.
3363[4/30/2016 5:05:15 PM] Alexander: Anyone here?
3364[4/30/2016 5:05:21 PM] The L: I am
3365[4/30/2016 5:05:28 PM] The Mangle: Present.
3366[4/30/2016 5:06:47 PM] Alexander: Soooo we doing this?
3367[4/30/2016 5:07:02 PM] cold ravioli: Yo estoy aqui
3368[4/30/2016 5:07:54 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: i am here!
3369[4/30/2016 5:10:05 PM] Sejuani: My game ran a bit late, my apologies.
3370[4/30/2016 5:10:11 PM] Sejuani: I didn't expect it to be nearly 50 minutes long.
3371[4/30/2016 5:10:37 PM] Sejuani: Give me just a few minutes to go potty, because I JUST got out of game.
3372[4/30/2016 5:10:41 PM] The L: Did you win?
3373[4/30/2016 5:15:04 PM] Sejuani: And back!
3374[4/30/2016 5:15:13 PM] Sejuani: Yes, thankfully we won.
3375[4/30/2016 5:15:18 PM] Sejuani: Anywho, is everyone here and ready? :D
3376[4/30/2016 5:15:37 PM] Sejuani: If anyone else needs a second, I more than understand. Heck, I'm late to my own meeting due a long game!
3377[4/30/2016 5:15:38 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: i am here and ready!
3378[4/30/2016 5:16:06 PM] The Mangle: I'm also here and ready. :v
3379[4/30/2016 5:16:15 PM] cold ravioli: Yo estoy aqui.
3380[4/30/2016 5:18:20 PM] Sejuani: And I'll presume (and hope) Darius is here but busy on his mobile!
3381[4/30/2016 5:19:19 PM] Alexander: I said I was the one who asked if everyone was here '^'
3382[4/30/2016 5:19:35 PM] Sejuani: Well you could of gotten busy again with work! Thus why I hoped you were still here =p
3383[4/30/2016 5:20:30 PM] Alexander: I'm fine. Just painting and watching my friends play.
3384[4/30/2016 5:21:19 PM | Edited 5:21:38 PM] Sejuani: So, as I mentioned the other day, we had someone ask us about a ban appeal. Their appeal finally came in last night and we're going to have to give this a long and proper discussion.  It's been a long time since the user has been inside the Inn, and they left some negative opinions in their wake.  Some of you may know her as Syndra Sylvane. 
3385
3386Others, may be familiar with her former names: 
3387Quinn
3388Fox of Ionia
3389Nami of the Marai
3390Tidal Fizz
3391
3392As of right now, this is her profile and public alts: 
3393https://www.f-list.net/c/syndra%20sylvane
3394[4/30/2016 5:22:19 PM] Sejuani: Her ban appeal is listed below, in its entirety. I'm going to be blunt and say she brought up some irrelevant details about the Fountain. I can expound on that if needed, so could Annie since they were a moderator when it actually occurred.
3395[4/30/2016 5:22:27 PM] Sejuani: This message is on behalf of Syndra Sylvane, Fox of Ionia, Etc.
3396
3397First and foremost I would like to say that in the past I was a vitriolic person and wont deny that I had several issues with other LOL Inn users, and I want to sincerely apologize for my actions. However, I can say that after a surplus of more than (or nearly) two years I have reformed. Not only have I found better outlets and constructive pathways for aggression/frustration - Walking it off, stepping back and taking a breather, exercising, etc - but in general those emotions are significantly less frequent.
3398
3399During that time in my life (several years ago) I was in several transitional phases, and while not an excuse they can be used for partial reasoning behind my actions and frustrations; with these external issues alleviated, my own temperament is much more in check and easily controlled. Similarly, I've worked on my personality and focused on becoming less confrontational, cooperating with who I'm talking to instead of butting heads.
3400
3401Several points around my ban:
3402
3403Addressing my ban in 'The Fountain' first off, I would like to state that my ban in that room is not due to what Ahrin said - in room drama - but was instead due to a personal conflict between me and him in World of Warcraft. If you talk to any of the moderators that were present in that room during Ahrin's control, many bans were undone the moment he passed over ownership, mine included. Shyvana can attest to this fact due to their moderation during that time.
3404
3405Secondly, while I wont dispute that a ban for my actions was undoubtedly appropriate, a permanent ban with no chance of reform many would consider excessive. During my ban period I've never evaded my ban (logging into alts) or otherwise tried to cheat the system; any time I ever was in the room post-ban was been due to chat 2.0's 'pin' system that allows you to automatically join a room upon character log in, and was immediately amended once I noticed. Eden's report to the site's admins due to 'ban evasion' immediately after my removal from the LoL Inn was due to myself telling Caitlyn Johnston I planned on giving away several names - her interpreting that as sneaking back into the room - and then relaying this to Eden. During this time, no rule infraction was ever performed, and was only assumed due to harmless miscommunication.
3406
3407While I obviously cannot guarantee you over a note alone that I will be an outstanding citizen in the LoL Inn, I sincerely hope I can display my reform through either a one-week trial or interview to show that I've changed my ways. Not only that, but I'm also open to constructive criticism and am more than willing to actively adjust my behavior as needed should (however unlikely) an incident occur - whether I'm at fault or not - in order to prevent any future mishaps.
3408
3409Sincerest Regards, Nami.
3410[4/30/2016 5:24:30 PM] Dolly Damned: I... Never reported them
3411[4/30/2016 5:24:42 PM] Sejuani: I was going to get to that.
3412[4/30/2016 5:24:54 PM] Sejuani: But yes, there is some false information in her appeal.
3413[4/30/2016 5:25:10 PM] Sejuani: It could be blamed on honest misinformation or presumption though.
3414[4/30/2016 5:27:19 PM] Alexander: Not sure why they mentioned the Fountain
3415[4/30/2016 5:27:35 PM] Sejuani: Neither am I. It was irrelevant detail as I said.
3416[4/30/2016 5:28:18 PM] cold ravioli: It's irrelevant. Though, at the time, they were banned rather unfairly by Ark, and their ban was not lifted later on, due to Ark's dislike of them. Despite other mods insistence that it was unfair to ban her based off things she did outside of the room, and thatit'd only be fair to include her in one of the multiple 'clean slates.'
3417[4/30/2016 5:28:49 PM] cold ravioli: They haven't been banned in the fountain for ages, however.
3418[4/30/2016 5:29:39 PM] Sejuani: Now, first and foremost, this user has been banned for going on two years. 
3419
3420 I won't claim to be an expert on her.  I only had two interactions with Syndra prior to her ban appeal. 
3421
3422During the first, I made a major mistake. I fucked up as an user. They had every right to be mad at me. My second interaction, I tried apologizing and was blocked after being chewed out. I didn't blame her.
3423
3424So when Syndra was in the channel, I purposefully avoided her and moderating her. Because of this, I have a fringe knowledge of her. I didn't want to get in any sort of trouble for ignore evasion and left this up to the other moderators at the time.
3425
3426
3427
3428Syndra was originally banned under questionable circumstances, though, but no one was truly upset. She had a reputation for being snarky and rude in private, and that sometimes spilled over into the Inn. The official reason for banning her, at the time, was her complete and utter disregard for the staff and it's ruling.
3429
3430Another user, who we called Adjective Champion, was a big issue and was already on their way out the door. They were on a final straw and went off in public again. 
3431
3432When they did, Syndra went off on Adjective Champion and staff for not doing anything about her. She made some very tasteless comments about the moderation of the time and was banned along with Adjective Champion.  
3433
3434
3435Despite what her letter says, she has ban evaded a few times. 
3436
3437I can recall two instances, myself.  There may be others, if there was, please inform everyone here. 
3438
3439The first instance was right after her ban in which she was supposedly just online to delete names and give them out to people. Asking that the names they were giving out be unbanned so people could at least use her names. She tried to cover this incident in her ban appeal and got some of the facts wrong.
3440[4/30/2016 5:34:49 PM] Sejuani: She believes Eden reported her, which is blatantly wrong. I believe it was Caitlyn who did but again, I was trying to avoid her like the plague.
3441
3442
3443
3444The second time? I accidentally found her. I stumbled across a profile I really liked and tried messaging it. The user had me on ignore and I was startled. So, I took a long, long look at the profile and realized who it was. Rather than report the user to Globals, we kept the ban evasion in house and simply removed her from the channel. This happened in early 2015 after I got back from my hiatus. 
3445
3446
3447When Diana took over the Inn, we implemented a clean slate policy for most users. We kept some problematic people on ban and decided we'd take them on an appeal basis. Syndra is one of those users. We weren't sure how to handle her at the time. She had been banned under special circumstances and honestly wouldn't of been banned by the current merits of our current administration. Despite that, there is some drama in this case and situation. She did have a history of toxicity in private.  She could be extremely hurtful and spiteful to people, and some us have negative histories with her due to that.
3448
3449But in channel, she rarely acted up.
3450
3451She was more of a lurker than anything who sometimes commented.
3452[4/30/2016 5:37:50 PM] Sejuani: Well, it's been over two years. 
3453
3454She's finally sent in an appeal and I had to speak to her. She seemed apologetic even if misinformed on some details. She wasn't even sure who our current staff was, or who the acting owner of the room was. She claimed that she had tried to appeal through the old owner and was shocked that he still didn't own the room.
3455
3456
3457
3458During my conversation with her? She seemed genuine. She seemed like she wanted a second chance and understood that her public outbursts were unacceptable. She claimed she wanted to come back to the channel because she wants to easily be able to meet friends who are interested in the game and setting. She just wants to be able to lurk, because it's the only big League room on F-Chat.
3459
3460
3461She said she knew she'd be on thin ice and would be removed if she acted up. But she wanted a second chance in the room.
3462
3463
3464Now, before we actually go to voting, does anyone have any questions or comments? Personal thoughts or opinions on this?
3465[4/30/2016 5:39:30 PM] cold ravioli: I've said it before: two years is a long time.
3466[4/30/2016 5:39:46 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I feel like, regardless of her actions in the past, if she's asking for an appeal after two years that she should be given a chance. All we really have to do if she acts up is ban her. It's been quite a long time and if she's seeming genuine then I feel a second chance would be alright.
3467[4/30/2016 5:41:22 PM] The L: I'd say personally after some thought that she can get a chance but make it a very limited one in that she can come back but a single sign of old behavior and they're out on their ass again.
3468[4/30/2016 5:42:06 PM] Alexander: The issue I have is the user in question's primary issue is that their main toxic behavior was conducted mostly in private. If by change that they haven't changed, we can't exactly do much to them as per our rules. It just opens an avenue for them again to harass our members.
3469[4/30/2016 5:42:43 PM] cold ravioli: It's not really our place to moderate private messages. If the harassment resumes, then that's on the global mods. As much as I dislike putting more on their plate, that's not OUR job.
3470[4/30/2016 5:44:31 PM] Alexander: Its OUR job to ensure our members are given a safe and secure environment. If we allow someone who's completely toxic and manipulative to just use our channel as an avenue for it then that is on us.
3471[4/30/2016 5:44:57 PM | Edited 5:45:12 PM] The Mangle: Honestly? It hardly matters here. But I've had a personal experience with the user. Albeit off of F-list. It took me seeing their Vi profile to remember. Effectively, and without taking too much time. They insulted a close friend of mine based only on their choice of Ezreal build. It was HARDLY the worst thing ever done by someone, but it left a sour taste in my mouth and I seldom interact with them despite still having them added.
3472
3473But enough about me. It's been two year, no? Misinformed or not, what she got wrong wasn't exactly idea ruining. Anyone's faded memory would get these details wrong. The point is that she acknowledged her flaws and what netted her the permanent ban. And I sincerely don't think she'd file for an appeal without spending SOME time improving.
3474
3475I don't think it's worth the hassle to moderate them for a week or so to see if their claims of reformed behavior hold water. And I don't think someone would go through this much trouble to keep being toxic in a room. I'd say undo the ban, my distaste is nearly three years old and I haven't spoken to them since. I'd like to believe they've changed for the better.
3476[4/30/2016 5:45:04 PM] cold ravioli: the environment is the room, not the pms.
3477[4/30/2016 5:46:21 PM] Alexander: I'm not fine with allowing someone who's a complete dick to people in private in the room. That's incredibly deflective
3478[4/30/2016 5:46:28 PM | Edited 5:46:57 PM] Sejuani: If she harassed via status messages, we would squash her. But PMs honestly aren't our domain. While I try to avoid blatant harassment of our users, there's no guarantee that after two years her personality hasn't changed. She could very well be reformed. 
3479
3480We have no real way of knowing. 
3481
3482I spoke to her for two hours. During my time speaking to her? She made two comments which made me very concerned. But, it was always a matter of iffy connotation. You could easily see a comment either as a statement or an insult given of how you perceived it. That is something that did worry me and I'm going to be upfront and honest about that.
3483
3484But I also went out of my way to press her buttons. I wanted to see how she would react to it.
3485
3486She didn't snap back. That could of been because I was a moderator. That could of been because she's trying to tell us what she wants us to hear. Or it could be because she's changed.
3487[4/30/2016 5:48:33 PM] Sejuani: There is also a tid bit that goes with this.
3488
3489She's flat out told me who she had on ignore, because she wanted to know if it would be an issue. I'm going to put that information on the table. She has Diana, Eden, and Darius on block. 
3490
3491I've told her if she blocks any other moderator, she'll be removed from the channel. 
3492
3493The ignore on Diana, Eden, and Darius are due to problems from two years ago.
3494[4/30/2016 5:48:36 PM] cold ravioli: Two years is a long time, and our job is to moderate the room. If users experience harassment in pms, then we should encourage them to report the user to site staff. It is not, and should not, be our place to moderate what people do in pms.
3495
3496Additionally, as Sejuani pointed out, she may have changed. The only real way to tell is to give her a chance. She was banned under questionable circumstances because those in charge didn't like her. Admittedly, she was rather.... awful. But there are many arguably awful people in the inn. If we're moderating based off of our personal preferences, then we've many people to ban.
3497[4/30/2016 5:49:18 PM] cold ravioli: I think we should tell her to unblock those mods, personally. If we're giving her a second chance, then she should give us a second chance.
3498[4/30/2016 5:49:30 PM] cold ravioli: something something 2-way street
3499[4/30/2016 5:49:39 PM] Sejuani: That's a matter of Code of Conduct. Simply telling that is a big no no.
3500[4/30/2016 5:50:11 PM] Sejuani: If she wanted to? That would be someone's head on a plate.
3501[4/30/2016 5:50:58 PM] cold ravioli: Are we not allowed to have a rule that says users of the inn cannot have moderators on ignore? I believe it was Ottie who even recommended such a rule.
3502[4/30/2016 5:52:16 PM] Sejuani: That is something I'd like to discuss soon. We do need to reword some rules and consider some new ones. 
3503
3504Cough, Momma Kallista.
3505[4/30/2016 5:55:25 PM] Sejuani: But, does any else have thoughts or input?
3506[4/30/2016 5:57:11 PM] The Mangle: None from me. :v
3507[4/30/2016 5:57:15 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Definitely agree with Annie on that. I feel like users that are in the Inn shouldn't have the Moderators on ignore and should be willing to, at the very least, work with the Moderators should any issues arise. But yes, I also feel that Syndra should still be given a second chance. It has been a couple of years, and all it'll take to send her away is another slipup.
3508[4/30/2016 5:58:55 PM] Sejuani: Quite bluntly? One click and she would be banned and put right back into the same exact situation she is now.
3509[4/30/2016 5:59:06 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Exactly.
3510[4/30/2016 5:59:46 PM] Sejuani: Does anyone have any final remarks before we vote?
3511[4/30/2016 6:00:28 PM] Alexander: Nothing I haven't already said before.
3512[4/30/2016 6:00:43 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Nope, I'm all set.
3513[4/30/2016 6:02:02 PM] The L: She needs to make sure those mods are not on ignore anymore and if you guys can make sure no personal grievances come into play it shouldn't be a issue in the future.
3514[4/30/2016 6:02:30 PM] Sejuani: I think we can all agree with the following statement then.
3515[4/30/2016 6:03:19 PM] Sejuani: I'll send her a note telling her to speak to me. If she's willing to adhere to an upcoming rule of no ignoring channel moderators, then she's fine to be in the channel.  If she's unwilling to comply with this coming rule, then we're going to be unable to remove her ban.
3516[4/30/2016 6:04:03 PM] cold ravioli: I think it's worth mentioning to her that it's not just us giving her a second chance, but also the other way around.
3517[4/30/2016 6:04:21 PM] cold ravioli: If we're willing to look past previous behavior, then she should do the same.
3518[4/30/2016 6:04:33 PM] Alexander: The user has a fairly unanimous reference sheet of abysmal character quality. We know that their one of their worst qualities was venemous behavior in private messages. Whether its part of our jurisdiction or not its not a wise deicison to allow that option to be open for harassing our members. Simply saying its not our job is a poor excuse to ignore it.
3519[4/30/2016 6:04:54 PM | Edited 6:05:45 PM] Sejuani: Alexander, she could PM any single person in the Inn as is. All she gains by being in the channel is the immediate user list. But there's already search functions and easy ways to message anyone in the League of Legends Inn.   There is the Fountain, an affiliated room, which almost has half of the Inn in it already.
3520[4/30/2016 6:05:22 PM] Alexander: Not with the same manner of convenience
3521[4/30/2016 6:06:32 PM] cold ravioli: I firmly believe that we SHOULD NOT attempt to moderate pms. I'm pretty sure there was even a mention in the global rules update that mentioned users attempting to carry out moderator duties. Simply put, we should not be moderating pms.
3522[4/30/2016 6:07:37 PM] Sejuani: It's against the rules to try and moderate and threaten site wide punishment or jurisdiction on behalf of the staff. For example, you can't PM someone and go "If you do that, I'm going to get you banned." Or you can't go, "Doing that is going to get you timed out."
3523[4/30/2016 6:07:47 PM] Sejuani: A private channel could moderate PMs if desired, but we do not.
3524[4/30/2016 6:08:11 PM] Sejuani: Not because it's not our job but because the Ignore function exists for a reason.
3525[4/30/2016 6:08:25 PM | Edited 6:08:36 PM] Sejuani: Two years ago? Syndra didn't like what I said to her one bit. She ignored me.
3526[4/30/2016 6:08:32 PM] The L: and yet people don't use it as much as they should be
3527[4/30/2016 6:08:42 PM] The L: and it is the most infuriating thing in the world
3528[4/30/2016 6:08:46 PM] Sejuani: Yes it is.
3529[4/30/2016 6:09:01 PM] Sejuani: I happily used the ignore function for a reason. It is a site tool to be used.
3530[4/30/2016 6:09:53 PM] Alexander: Never once did I state moderating PMs.
3531[4/30/2016 6:10:18 PM] The L: Although still if users from the Inn are complaining about her behavior though we should honestly consider that as a part of the deal imo
3532[4/30/2016 6:10:23 PM] The L: if only because its where the main problem is
3533[4/30/2016 6:10:50 PM] The L: not that I'm saying we need to be hardcore about it but if multiple people are complaining about the same person to us?
3534[4/30/2016 6:10:54 PM] The L: We should take steps
3535[4/30/2016 6:11:02 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Agreed.
3536[4/30/2016 6:11:04 PM] The L: but this is a unique situation with this one individual
3537[4/30/2016 6:11:19 PM] cold ravioli: I agree. And I think those steps should be telling the people to put them on ignore, and if the harassment continues, to contact site staff.
3538[4/30/2016 6:11:33 PM] The L: don't dump her on us you jerk
3539[4/30/2016 6:11:47 PM] *** The L has bigger problems to worry about. like spaceships. ***
3540[4/30/2016 6:11:50 PM] cold ravioli: Would you not say that that is the proper procedure to dealing with being harassed?
3541[4/30/2016 6:12:02 PM] *** The L was kiddin ***
3542[4/30/2016 6:12:08 PM] cold ravioli: ah, okay, haha.
3543[4/30/2016 6:12:25 PM] Sejuani: And you know what? Typically? Typically? 
3544
3545We say we don't moderate PMs. But when there's been a history of harassment? The Inn has handled it.  We expanded to cover status messages for a reason. We've already bopped one person for harassing another through the League Club.
3546[4/30/2016 6:12:52 PM] Sejuani: Because apparently? Ignoring someone on League doesn't ignore them in the Club chat.
3547[4/30/2016 6:14:55 PM] cold ravioli: I get that, but I think dealing with pms is just too much 'he said she said.' We only have access to logs that are submitted to us, after all. We haven't the tools to objectively moderate things that we, for all intents and purposes, can't see.
3548
3549And yes, we have done that in the past, and I suppose if there are piles of reports for a specific user, then we could potentially take steps. But really, this was 2 years ago. A two year ban for vitriolic behavior seems a bit... excessive. Especially when, as mentioned, it's quite simple to reinstate the ban.
3550[4/30/2016 6:15:36 PM] Sejuani: Personally? I do agree. I was simply restating.
3551[4/30/2016 6:15:57 PM] Sejuani: I think we're good to vote. Anyone object?
3552[4/30/2016 6:16:20 PM] The Mangle: Nooope.
3553[4/30/2016 6:16:46 PM] Sejuani: `^` You're just sitting there barely awake, aren't you Koh? You're a Zombie right now, aren't you?
3554[4/30/2016 6:17:11 PM] The Mangle: I'm dead on the inside.
3555[4/30/2016 6:17:49 PM] cold ravioli: Join the club, we've got jackets
3556[4/30/2016 6:18:34 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I'm ready to vote.
3557[4/30/2016 6:18:49 PM] Alexander: Skype is draining my phone battery, so with respect let's get to the vote :x
3558[4/30/2016 6:18:55 PM] Sejuani: ALRIGHT
3559[4/30/2016 6:19:19 PM] Sejuani: All in favor of Syndra's appeal? 
3560
3561Ashe: Abstained
3562Eden: Abstained
3563[4/30/2016 6:19:27 PM] Sejuani: I'm in favor of the appeal.
3564[4/30/2016 6:19:32 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: I'm also in favor.
3565[4/30/2016 6:19:37 PM] cold ravioli: I am also in favor of giving them another chance.
3566[4/30/2016 6:19:39 PM] The Mangle: I'm in favor. Give em a second chance.
3567[4/30/2016 6:20:16 PM] The L: In favor but with some firm reminders for them.
3568[4/30/2016 6:22:03 PM] Sejuani: And for formality, Darius?
3569[4/30/2016 6:22:35 PM] Alexander: Oh, thought you said just everyone in favor.
3570[4/30/2016 6:22:53 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, she did. You're not wrong.
3571[4/30/2016 6:23:05 PM] Alexander: I am against the appeal.
3572[4/30/2016 6:23:11 PM] Sejuani: .... Yeah, I could of worded that better. Sorry :c
3573[4/30/2016 6:23:28 PM] Sejuani: I'll try and say something like, "How do you vote in regards to his/her appeal" next time.
3574[4/30/2016 6:23:32 PM | Edited 6:23:38 PM] Sejuani: We've only really done three of these.
3575[4/30/2016 6:23:36 PM] Alexander: Lol its hardly a big deal. I was just being quiet to wait my turn.
3576[4/30/2016 6:24:28 PM] The L: I would've voted no personally given all the stuff we're gonna have to do just to keep em in line 'maybe' BUT I figured I shouldn't be a complete grump and see if this whole redemption story is gonna really happen
3577[4/30/2016 6:24:31 PM] The L: if it does 'woo'
3578[4/30/2016 6:24:32 PM] Sejuani: Syndra's appeal will go through on the condition that she understands her former behavior will not be tolerated and she'll be expected to remove all moderators from Ignore. Pending that, I'll remove her ban after speaking to her.
3579[4/30/2016 6:24:37 PM] The L: if it doesn't 'unwoo'
3580[4/30/2016 6:26:48 PM] Alexander: Anything else we needed to discuss, ma'am?
3581[4/30/2016 6:27:00 PM] Sejuani: I don't believe so.
3582[4/30/2016 6:27:08 PM] Sejuani: So unless someone has they want to discuss?
3583[4/30/2016 6:27:13 PM] Sejuani: Jesus
3584[4/30/2016 6:27:18 PM] Sejuani: I cannot do the English tonight.
3585[4/30/2016 6:27:19 PM] Alexander: I do.
3586[4/30/2016 6:27:31 PM] Sejuani: Yes Darius?
3587[4/30/2016 6:27:38 PM] cold ravioli: the rule changes? Namely, potentially rewording 'scrolling' to 'flooding' or the change regarding twitch memes?
3588[4/30/2016 6:27:53 PM] Sejuani: We'd need both Ashe and Eden for that, Rav, and Darius is on a phone tonight.
3589[4/30/2016 6:28:03 PM] cold ravioli: ah, fair enough.
3590[4/30/2016 6:28:07 PM] The L: I think I could probably change that actually
3591[4/30/2016 6:28:14 PM] Alexander: I believe that we should have chocolate cake provided for every moderator meeting.
3592[4/30/2016 6:28:26 PM] cold ravioli: I agree. I'll expect it to be delivered to my apartment.
3593[4/30/2016 6:28:27 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: yessss
3594[4/30/2016 6:28:44 PM] The L: does anyone have the current description bbc code n all?
3595[4/30/2016 6:28:55 PM] Sejuani: Yes, why?
3596[4/30/2016 6:29:03 PM] The L: PM me it
3597[4/30/2016 6:29:08 PM] The L: I wanna actually test something
3598[4/30/2016 6:29:11 PM] cold ravioli: Well we still need to discuss if we should even make the changes.
3599[4/30/2016 6:29:26 PM] The L: ..on F-List please
3600[4/30/2016 6:29:28 PM] Alexander: Don't ignore my recommendation! Cake or death! >:c
3601[4/30/2016 6:29:30 PM] The L: Skype is gonna fuck something up
3602[4/30/2016 6:29:30 PM] cold ravioli: ottie, just click the wrench, and copy-paste the code
3603[4/30/2016 6:29:40 PM] The L: Oh
3604[4/30/2016 6:29:43 PM] cold ravioli: under room settings
3605[4/30/2016 6:30:12 PM] The L: Oh
3606[4/30/2016 6:30:15 PM] The L: Well what do you know
3607[4/30/2016 6:30:17 PM] The L: I can do tht
3608[4/30/2016 6:31:09 PM] The L: Alrighty what was that minor thing you wanted to change again wording wise?
3609[4/30/2016 6:31:16 PM] Alexander: Okay, jokes aside I need to hope off Skype. My phone's at like a quarter percent now. I'll be on my computer later and I should still get a notification on here if anyone needs me. :x
3610[4/30/2016 6:31:29 PM] cold ravioli: I was reocmmending changing 'scrolling' to flooding, as that might be a bit more readily transparent
3611[4/30/2016 6:34:17 PM] Sejuani: Comcast blew up so hard serwshon mol
3612[4/30/2016 6:34:29 PM] Sejuani: ... jesus. Skype.
3613[4/30/2016 6:34:33 PM] Sejuani: Please.
3614[4/30/2016 6:34:35 PM] cold ravioli: serwshon mol
3615[4/30/2016 6:34:43 PM] cold ravioli: found a name for an OC
3616[4/30/2016 6:34:55 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: haha
3617[4/30/2016 6:35:20 PM] Sejuani: Skype blew up so hard my Skype crashed. Then my mobile skype crashed typing that due to all the chat logs loading
3618[4/30/2016 6:35:46 PM] The Mangle: [Saturday, April 30, 2016 6:34 PM] Sejuani: 
3619
3620<<< serwshon molLegendary
3621[4/30/2016 6:36:17 PM] Sejuani: I don't even know how skype turned my skype crashed into THAT
3622[4/30/2016 6:36:41 PM] The L: You're not as think as DCed you are
3623[4/30/2016 6:37:47 PM] Sejuani: I'm not?
3624[4/30/2016 6:40:08 PM] The L: Yus
3625[4/30/2016 6:40:11 PM] The L: now anywho
3626[4/30/2016 6:40:16 PM] Sejuani: Explain?
3627[4/30/2016 6:40:20 PM] The L: I don't wanna
3628[4/30/2016 6:40:27 PM] The L: I got a more important question any who
3629[4/30/2016 6:40:34 PM] The L: What's going on with Momma Kalista?
3630[4/30/2016 6:40:45 PM] The L: You mentioned em earlier but never mentioned why
3631[4/30/2016 6:40:58 PM] The Mangle: We're in no position to talk about this. Sejuani may change Kalista into Obama Classroom.
3632[4/30/2016 6:41:21 PM] Sejuani: They tried to sass me the other night when I said not to use the katana face.
3633[4/30/2016 6:41:33 PM] The Mangle: Katana face.
3634[4/30/2016 6:41:38 PM] Sejuani: Kaplan
3635[4/30/2016 6:41:39 PM] The Mangle: You're killing me, Smalls.
3636[4/30/2016 6:41:43 PM] The Mangle: LMAO
3637[4/30/2016 6:41:45 PM] Sejuani: K A P P A
3638[4/30/2016 6:41:59 PM] cold ravioli: They're relatively awful, but haven't TECHNICALLY done anything wrong.
3639[4/30/2016 6:42:45 PM] Sejuani: Then tried to accuse me of being willing to ban her for "standing up against my admin abuse."
3640[4/30/2016 6:43:02 PM] cold ravioli: Oh, I missed that part. When did that happen?
3641[4/30/2016 6:43:38 PM] Sejuani: Remember when  I offered to talk in private?
3642[4/30/2016 6:43:43 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah.
3643[4/30/2016 6:44:02 PM] Sejuani: She said that in public and said she wouldn't talk to me in private cause I'd ban her.
3644[4/30/2016 6:44:52 PM] The L: Remind me again how she thinks that's going to stop us from banning her in public if she's going to openly be a twat?
3645[4/30/2016 6:44:57 PM] Sejuani: That's why I asked if my next message was polite before I sent it. She legitimately pissed me off.
3646[4/30/2016 6:45:05 PM] Sejuani: Who knows.
3647[4/30/2016 6:45:21 PM] cold ravioli: Ah, I remember the public stuff, I just didn't remember the quoted line.
3648[4/30/2016 6:49:31 PM] The L: If they got a issue with being modded then their stay in the Inn will be a short one
3649[4/30/2016 6:49:54 PM] The L: niceties aside we don't have time to be dealing with people who wanna be open abrasive jackasses
3650[4/30/2016 6:50:13 PM] Sejuani: It wasn't even them who used the kappa. They freaked out over me warning Immigration.
3651[4/30/2016 6:50:23 PM] Sejuani: Immokalee
3652[4/30/2016 6:50:26 PM] Sejuani: ...
3653[4/30/2016 6:50:32 PM] Sejuani: I m j I I
3654[4/30/2016 6:50:36 PM] The L: Sej you wanna maybe take a nap?
3655[4/30/2016 6:50:42 PM] The L: eat some snickers/
3656[4/30/2016 6:50:47 PM] The L: you aren't you when you're hungry
3657[4/30/2016 6:50:58 PM] Sejuani: It's Skype mobile. It hates me.
3658[4/30/2016 6:51:04 PM] Sejuani: Comcast is still down.
3659[4/30/2016 6:51:04 PM] The Mangle: A nap can not undo the literary horrors this woman has sent me. :y
3660[4/30/2016 6:51:06 PM] Iculas: Boy I've missed some serious shit.
3661[4/30/2016 6:51:30 PM] The Mangle: Sej needs to think of a Kaplan and fast.
3662[4/30/2016 6:52:56 PM] Iculas: What's going on? Tl;Dr version please. I can't read through over 200 messages to catch up.
3663[4/30/2016 6:53:47 PM] cold ravioli: we discussed syndra sylvane's ban appeal. It passed inf avor of giving them a second chance, but with some serious thin ice. We then briefly discussed some rule modifications, namely changing 'scrolling' to 'flooding' and elaborating on the use of twitch memes.
3664[4/30/2016 6:54:58 PM] Iculas: Okay so there's something else going on? For a moment I saw moderating PMs, statuses, and what looked like somebody defending themselves against mod abuse.
3665[4/30/2016 6:55:26 PM] Sejuani: That happened two nights ago.
3666[4/30/2016 6:55:40 PM] Sejuani: We even talked about it then for people to see the next day.
3667[4/30/2016 6:56:16 PM] The L: We're replacing you Ashe
3668[4/30/2016 6:56:24 PM] cold ravioli: oh, momma kalista being a cunt to sej, since sej asked someone who posted kappa to not post kappa. That resulted in an argument about how it wasn't 'spamming memes' since it was one post.
3669[4/30/2016 6:56:26 PM] The L: we found this awesome Eggplant that happens to be pretty good with a bow
3670[4/30/2016 6:56:29 PM] Sejuani: Someone accused me of being a tyrant for not allowing someone to use kappa.
3671[4/30/2016 6:56:48 PM] The L: should've sent em to me
3672[4/30/2016 6:56:52 PM] The L: I'll show em a tyrant
3673[4/30/2016 6:57:09 PM] The L: FREEDOM IS A ILLUSION GRANTED BY THE VERY LITTLE MERCY I HAVE LEFT
3674[4/30/2016 6:57:25 PM] The L: NOW. MAKE. ME. A. SANDWICH
3675[4/30/2016 7:00:12 PM] Iculas: If that happens and they're bitching in in the channel flat tell them to send a note to pale Diana or Sejuani and then ban them from the channel. If they start bitching at you in PMs ask them politely to stop and that they need to take it up with a Co owner. If they persist report them to site staff, for harassment, without them knowing you've done so.
3676[4/30/2016 7:00:33 PM] cold ravioli: well it was directed at sej, so it would have been to you.
3677[4/30/2016 7:00:47 PM] Iculas: I know and I'm fine with that.
3678[4/30/2016 7:00:51 PM] cold ravioli: In any case, it did raise an interesting point, where the rule does not flat out ban twitch memes.
3679[4/30/2016 7:01:09 PM] Sejuani: I think we shoukd adjust it to.
3680[4/30/2016 7:01:56 PM] The L: All obey and serve Ottie and bring him sandwiches of the utmost quality with a assortment of chilled drinks =w=
3681[4/30/2016 7:02:32 PM] Sejuani: Comcadt still down. Would anyone mind if I go get dinner?
3682[4/30/2016 7:03:30 PM] Iculas: Yet everytime somebody posts a kappa I tell them not to. I think the description states our intention just fine there. This isn't twitch chat or meme central. I'm more than happy to explain that and why they shouldn't throw a temper tantrum like a petulant child in front of over 200 people because they feel like they're being abused.
3683[4/30/2016 7:04:10 PM] Sejuani: I am too. But I am ready to say no twitch.tv eicons. No Trick2G nonsense.
3684[4/30/2016 7:04:13 PM] cold ravioli: Right, but the rule does say 'do not spam memes'
3685[4/30/2016 7:04:28 PM] cold ravioli: posting one, once, is not spamming. Momma Kalista was petulent as fuck, but she did have a point.
3686[4/30/2016 7:04:38 PM] Sejuani: WOW PHONE. YOU DONT CORRECT TRICK2G BUT CORRECT EVRRYTHING ELSE.
3687[4/30/2016 7:05:10 PM] The L: Sej give the phone the punishment of the IPhone 6's worldwide
3688[4/30/2016 7:05:14 PM] The L: Bend dat bitch
3689[4/30/2016 7:05:45 PM] The Mangle: Sejuani is resorting to Jacksonviolence
3690[4/30/2016 7:06:03 PM] Iculas: Sorry if I'm being a bitch here but I've got little sympathy for that sort of behavior.
3691[4/30/2016 7:06:39 PM] The L: its not being a bitch its just factual logic
3692[4/30/2016 7:06:48 PM] The Mangle: ^^^
3693[4/30/2016 7:06:52 PM] The L: if you are an asshole you do NOT need to be in the Inn
3694[4/30/2016 7:07:04 PM] Iculas: I also haven't had a shower in like two days and I'm about to finally take one. I can't wait til all this plumbing shit is taken care of.
3695[4/30/2016 7:07:17 PM] cold ravioli: I agree that she was pentulent, but again, she wasn't technically wrong. There's no rule saying to not discuss rules in the chat (I think there should be) and the rule is somewhat vaguely worded, allowing for such things. Hence why I think a change is in order.
3696[4/30/2016 7:07:43 PM] The L: Annie is no longer allowed to summon Tibbers to make grilled cheese
3697[4/30/2016 7:07:59 PM] cold ravioli: I don't do that. Hatred spoils the cheese.
3698[4/30/2016 7:07:59 PM] The L: Mangle is only allowed to have one head.
3699[4/30/2016 7:08:23 PM] The L: Ashe is no longer allowed to wear skirts. She must forever wear pants.
3700[4/30/2016 7:08:34 PM] cold ravioli: She's a nevernude now?
3701[4/30/2016 7:09:29 PM] The L: YUP
3702[4/30/2016 7:09:35 PM] The L: We're a Christian League channel
3703[4/30/2016 7:09:38 PM] Iculas: I thought there was a portion of the description dedicated to bitching about mod decisions and rules?
3704[4/30/2016 7:09:42 PM] The L: ain't nobody got time for nudes
3705[4/30/2016 7:10:07 PM] cold ravioli: Sort of? It says if you've an issue to a moderator's actions, please submit a report or whtaever. It's not explicitly saying 'don't bitch about rules and rulings in public'
3706[4/30/2016 7:10:44 PM] Iculas: Being vague is good. Clearly defining outliers is bad. The more thorough a rule is the more you open it to rule lawyering.
3707[4/30/2016 7:11:30 PM] Sejuani: We just edit the rule to aay no twitch.tv icons.
3708[4/30/2016 7:11:44 PM] cold ravioli: I disagree, because vagueness allows pepole to be 'technically' correct, as they were in this instance.
3709[4/30/2016 7:12:05 PM] cold ravioli: Also, it doesn't say anything about 'not bitching in public about rules' what so ever.
3710[4/30/2016 7:12:37 PM] Iculas: Dear Kira. Plz let me disable eicons/icons in private channels. Love, desperate in Desoto.
3711[4/30/2016 7:13:21 PM] Sejuani: I am so bucking sad right now.
3712[4/30/2016 7:13:29 PM] Sejuani: I forgot to unthaw the chicken.
3713[4/30/2016 7:13:36 PM] cold ravioli: soak it in cool water
3714[4/30/2016 7:14:11 PM] Iculas: They weren't 'technically correct". A mod told them to not do something and they felt they could argue it because they're a precious little child who wants to be right.
3715[4/30/2016 7:14:57 PM] cold ravioli: They felt they could argue it because the rule says 'no spamming memes' and the person only posted it once.
3716[4/30/2016 7:15:05 PM] cold ravioli: They felt that sej was acting out of line, based on the rules.
3717[4/30/2016 7:15:25 PM] cold ravioli: And yes, they were petulent. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't update the rules to more accurately represent the actual rules.
3718[4/30/2016 7:16:11 PM] Sejuani: I honestly do think that addition is for the best.
3719[4/30/2016 7:32:08 PM] Sejuani: That was fun :|
3720[4/30/2016 9:34:05 PM] Alexander: and I am now home
3721[4/30/2016 9:34:12 PM] Alexander: Did I miss anything?
3722[4/30/2016 10:50:11 PM] Alexander: Alright, so I caught the end of this little shitstorm that ended before I saw it but checl this out
3723[4/30/2016 10:50:15 PM] Alexander: http://pastebin.com/08CjiLtF
3724[4/30/2016 10:50:16 PM] Iculas: I'm going to pick up Momma Kalista and break her in half.
3725[4/30/2016 10:50:18 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah I was just reading over it
3726[4/30/2016 10:51:01 PM] Alexander: I'd recommend at the very least a day time out
3727[4/30/2016 10:51:44 PM] cold ravioli: meepette doesn't seem clean either.
3728[4/30/2016 10:51:59 PM] Alexander: with your approval, Icky
3729[4/30/2016 10:52:17 PM] Alexander: I agree, but I feel they warrant more a stern talking
3730[4/30/2016 10:52:25 PM] Alexander: I wouldn't be against a timeout for them either.
3731[4/30/2016 10:53:29 PM] Iculas: I just approached them.
3732[4/30/2016 10:53:35 PM] Alexander: roger
3733[4/30/2016 10:54:01 PM] Iculas: Well shit. That explains why they changed the disparaging status.
3734[4/30/2016 10:54:19 PM] cold ravioli: What was it before?
3735[4/30/2016 10:54:33 PM] Iculas: https://fstatus.stormweyr.dk/c/Momma%20Kalista
3736[4/30/2016 10:55:37 PM] Alexander: Can I punch her teeth in?
3737[4/30/2016 10:57:09 PM] cold ravioli: I think getting the full story might be a good idea first.
3738[4/30/2016 11:05:31 PM] Sejuani: Sorry about that, I was in a game of League with friends. Catching up now.
3739[4/30/2016 11:06:37 PM] The L: there's been a bit of a hiccup
3740[4/30/2016 11:06:49 PM] cold ravioli: ?
3741[4/30/2016 11:07:04 PM] Dolly Damned: Hmm
3742[4/30/2016 11:08:32 PM] Sejuani: What in the hell.
3743[4/30/2016 11:10:14 PM] Dolly Damned: I am confused
3744[4/30/2016 11:10:27 PM] The L: We're figuring it out just hang on '^'
3745[4/30/2016 11:10:36 PM] Dolly Damned: No, ' ^ ' I will not
3746[4/30/2016 11:10:42 PM] *** Dolly Damned flails ***
3747[4/30/2016 11:11:15 PM] Iculas: It's alright, I'm on it.
3748[4/30/2016 11:11:31 PM] Alexander: What happened?
3749[4/30/2016 11:11:32 PM] Iculas: Ottie has done the straightening outs. The user just super duper confused me for a moment there.
3750[4/30/2016 11:11:58 PM] The L: It was me blue screening mentally and a bit of miscommunication
3751[4/30/2016 11:12:31 PM] Alexander: Did you try restarting?
3752[4/30/2016 11:12:39 PM] cold ravioli: restarting... mentally?
3753[4/30/2016 11:12:47 PM] Alexander: Yep
3754[4/30/2016 11:14:03 PM] The L: hard to do that when I'm doing 4 things at once @A@
3755[4/30/2016 11:14:08 PM] The L: Also I hate people
3756[4/30/2016 11:14:20 PM] The L: especially those who turn out to be a disappointment
3757[4/30/2016 11:15:32 PM] Dolly Damned: I am sorry to disapiont you. :(
3758[4/30/2016 11:16:01 PM] The L: its not you
3759[4/30/2016 11:16:17 PM] *** Dolly Damned tries to joke to lighten the mood dammit. ***
3760[4/30/2016 11:22:12 PM] Alexander: did we miss something?
3761[4/30/2016 11:45:50 PM] Iculas: Handled. I'll post a report sooner or later. It'll probably just be logs though.
3762[4/30/2016 11:46:25 PM] Sejuani: No punishment to her?
3763[4/30/2016 11:50:05 PM | Edited 11:50:15 PM] Iculas: No. She diffused that urge almost immediately but I gave her a different sort of punishment: Guilt.
3764[4/30/2016 11:50:31 PM] Sejuani: You've gone soft, Ashe `^` I would of hit her for 24 hours and guilt.
3765[4/30/2016 11:50:57 PM] Dolly Damned: And ice cream with the ball jimmies
3766[4/30/2016 11:51:03 PM] Dolly Damned: no one likes the ball jimmies
3767[4/30/2016 11:51:40 PM] Dolly Damned: legit, http://deliciouslyyum.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/CakeBatterTruffles4.jpg anyone who does is not human. These are not proper jimmies >:I
3768[4/30/2016 11:52:00 PM] Sejuani: But... those are yummy.
3769[4/30/2016 11:52:08 PM] Dolly Damned: NOT HUMAN
3770[4/30/2016 11:53:23 PM] Alexander: ball sprinkles is like putting sand in your mouth.
3771[4/30/2016 11:53:42 PM] Dolly Damned: Ball Jimmies*
3772[4/30/2016 11:54:07 PM] Dolly Damned: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0229/7313/products/JMRBW-2_grande.jpg?v=1426627572 please.
3773[4/30/2016 11:54:39 PM] Iculas: http://prntscr.com/ayy5zn
3774[4/30/2016 11:55:07 PM] Iculas: Eden is a habitual Jimmy-rustler.
3775[4/30/2016 11:55:10 PM] Iculas: pass it on
3776[4/30/2016 11:58:17 PM] Alexander: Ball sprinkles you fucking savage
3777[5/1/2016 12:00:21 AM] Iculas: Oh god! You just mad me sneeze tea all over my back porch. Bravo Alexander! XD
3778[5/1/2016 12:02:27 AM] Alexander: `^` I am the ever-vigilant defender of truth, justice, and proper god damn American English.
3779[5/1/2016 12:02:29 AM] Dolly Damned: JIMMIES
3780[5/1/2016 12:02:51 AM] Dolly Damned: GET YOUR JANKY ASS SHITE OUT OF HERE, THEY'RE CALLED JIMMIES
3781[5/1/2016 12:05:16 AM] Alexander: LISTEN HERE, YOU HODUNK BACKWATER CHEESE-CAVORTING HICK. IN AMERICA WE FUCKING CALL THEM SPRINKLES GET THE CHOCOLATE SYRUP OUT OF YOUR EARS AND LEARN SOME PROPER AMERICAN
3782[5/1/2016 12:06:59 AM] cold ravioli: kids, kids
3783[5/1/2016 12:07:04 AM] cold ravioli: you're both... just awful
3784[5/1/2016 12:07:06 AM] Dolly Damned: NO, YOU LOOK HERE YOU FREAKING YELLOW BELLY HICK LOVING FUCK! These thigns you put on your ice cream with your chcocolate SAUCE and your other toppings? They're fucking called JIMMIES and i know how 2englishgud. DON'T INSULT MY NORTHREN CULTURE! Ya ding dong
3785[5/1/2016 12:07:39 AM] *** Dolly Damned is done, love you spooks ***
3786[5/1/2016 12:07:57 AM] Iculas: I love you two so damn much. Thank you.
3787[5/1/2016 12:08:25 AM] Dolly Damned: haha
3788[5/1/2016 12:08:34 AM] Dolly Damned: I can't focus on this scene now, dammit all. XD
3789[5/1/2016 12:08:39 AM] cold ravioli: Not to fan the flames but... they're sprinkles
3790[5/1/2016 12:08:41 AM] Alexander: I love you Pickles '^'  You yellow belly hick
3791[5/1/2016 12:08:55 AM] Dolly Damned: JIMMIES
3792[5/1/2016 12:08:59 AM] Dolly Damned: I'm not crazy
3793[5/1/2016 12:09:05 AM] Alexander: You are
3794[5/1/2016 12:09:50 AM] Dolly Damned: https://www.google.com/search?q=rainbow+jimmies&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiZr6q7m7jMAhXD6SYKHQTxCr8Q_AUICCgC&biw=1286&bih=613
3795[5/1/2016 12:09:52 AM] Dolly Damned: no >:I
3796[5/1/2016 12:11:19 AM] cold ravioli: https://s3.amazonaws.com/static.caloriecount.about.com/images/medium/giant-rainbow-sprinkles-128192.jpg
3797[5/1/2016 12:11:40 AM] Dolly Damned: FIGHT ME
3798[5/1/2016 12:11:41 AM] Dolly Damned: ALL OF YOU
3799[5/1/2016 12:11:52 AM] *** Dolly Damned sobs into her tea ***
3800[5/1/2016 12:12:45 AM] cold ravioli: Ew, you like tea?
3801[5/1/2016 12:13:09 AM] Dolly Damned: Lemon mint
3802[5/1/2016 12:13:10 AM] Dolly Damned: come at me
3803[5/1/2016 12:13:27 AM] cold ravioli: tea is for british people
3804[5/1/2016 12:13:31 AM] cold ravioli: and we're un murrica
3805[5/1/2016 12:13:51 AM] cold ravioli: *iin
3806[5/1/2016 12:14:27 AM] Dolly Damned: It's not even british
3807[5/1/2016 12:14:30 AM] Dolly Damned: they stole it from china
3808[5/1/2016 12:15:12 AM] *** Alexander force feeds her ice cream ***
3809[5/1/2016 12:15:37 AM] cold ravioli: We're not in china either >:U
3810[5/1/2016 12:15:52 AM] Alexander: Black tea is the only good kind of tea
3811[5/1/2016 12:16:03 AM] Alexander: and that's the most British tea there is
3812[5/1/2016 12:16:20 AM] cold ravioli: Tea is gross.
3813[5/1/2016 12:17:32 AM] Iculas: No! >:|
3814[5/1/2016 12:17:44 AM] Iculas: She'll get fat don't feed her that!
3815[5/1/2016 12:17:52 AM] *** Iculas goes to get something healthy.... like cabbage. ***
3816[5/1/2016 12:18:01 AM] Alexander: I like thick girls
3817[5/1/2016 12:18:16 AM] cold ravioli: cabbage is for rabbits
3818[5/1/2016 12:18:26 AM] Alexander: And communists
3819[5/1/2016 12:18:38 AM] cold ravioli: communist rabbits
3820[5/1/2016 12:18:42 AM] Alexander: ^
3821[5/1/2016 12:19:00 AM] cold ravioli: Icky confirmed to be a communist rabbit.
3822[5/1/2016 12:19:37 AM] Dolly Damned: ...
3823[5/1/2016 12:19:38 AM] Iculas: In Soviet Russia the cabbage eats the rabbits.
3824[5/1/2016 12:19:42 AM] Dolly Damned: Do not eat rabbits
3825[5/1/2016 12:19:47 AM] Iculas: :)
3826[5/1/2016 12:19:51 AM] cold ravioli: But rabbits are made of meat?
3827[5/1/2016 12:20:04 AM] Iculas: They are not they're made of defenseless deliciousness.
3828[5/1/2016 12:20:23 AM] cold ravioli: Isn't that just a synonym for meat?
3829[5/1/2016 12:20:28 AM] Iculas: I'll never forget how upset Eden was in Guild Wars 2 when I divebombed the poor rabbit.
3830[5/1/2016 12:20:32 AM] Dolly Damned: https://www.f-list.net/c/Song "YOU EAT A RABBIT IN FRONT OF ME I'LL REKT YOU FLID, FIGHT ME ONE ON ONE I BET YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A MEKA SCRUB!"
3831[5/1/2016 12:20:44 AM] Dolly Damned: ...
3832[5/1/2016 12:20:48 AM] Dolly Damned: You were a monster when we played
3833[5/1/2016 12:21:15 AM] Iculas: If they didn't want me to do it then there wouldn't be an achievement for murdering critters.
3834[5/1/2016 12:24:47 AM] *** Dolly Damned lays on the floor, ice cream pulling out of her mouth and forming a small puddle of it's own on the floor. Eyes borderline soulless while looking off into the distance. "They're jimmies, though." ***
3835[5/1/2016 12:25:41 AM] *** cold ravioli pours sprinkles on Eden. They're called sprinkles because you sprinkle them on things. You don't jimmy them on things. ***
3836[5/1/2016 12:26:49 AM] Dolly Damned: I'll Jimmie you
3837[5/1/2016 12:35:16 AM] Iculas: I don't know my Jimmies make that motion when I use them as toppings.
3838[5/1/2016 12:35:43 AM] Sejuani: Listen here you dirty punks.
3839[5/1/2016 12:35:50 AM] Sejuani: `^` You will rustle no jimmies. Am I understood?
3840[5/1/2016 12:35:57 AM] Sejuani: You will eat them and be happy with them.
3841[5/1/2016 12:35:59 AM] Iculas: Boars are for sissies.
3842[5/1/2016 12:36:00 AM] *** cold ravioli rustles Sejuani's jimmies. ***
3843[5/1/2016 12:36:02 AM] Dolly Damned: ;A;
3844[5/1/2016 12:36:10 AM] Dolly Damned: I am so triggered
3845[5/1/2016 12:36:27 AM] *** Sejuani backhands Annie and proceeds to mount her in front of everyone else, violently doing things to her backside `^` ***
3846[5/1/2016 12:36:37 AM] Iculas: ` ^ ´
3847[5/1/2016 12:36:55 AM] *** Alexander video tapes everything ***
3848[5/1/2016 12:37:09 AM] cold ravioli: This may or may not be my fetish.
3849[5/1/2016 12:37:16 AM] *** Sejuani rides Annie around the room while cropping her fat ass. ***
3850[5/1/2016 12:37:17 AM] Alexander: A fortune, I will make.
3851[5/1/2016 12:37:18 AM] cold ravioli: I cannot confirm nor deny the fetish status.
3852[5/1/2016 12:37:25 AM] cold ravioli: My ass is not fat.
3853[5/1/2016 12:37:42 AM] Sejuani: It is after all the darn jimmies you've been eating!
3854[5/1/2016 12:38:15 AM] cold ravioli: I actually don't care for sprinkles. Or, even, ice cream, for that matter. It's okay.
3855[5/1/2016 12:39:33 AM] cold ravioli: All lewdness aside. Sweets are meh.
3856[5/1/2016 12:41:04 AM] Alexander: I motion for a vote to remove Annie from the moderation team. Reason: Sugarist
3857[5/1/2016 12:41:19 AM] cold ravioli: I guess I can't really say that. SInce soda is basically liquid candy.
3858[5/1/2016 2:43:07 PM] The Mangle: I'm currently digging through logs for it. But I've been informed Momma Kalista and Meepette started quite the shit storm last night. I'm wondering if anyone saw this or spoke to them about it already.
3859[5/1/2016 2:43:27 PM] Sejuani: Yes. There's an entire segment above on it.
3860[5/1/2016 2:43:33 PM] Sejuani: Unless they went for a round 2.
3861[5/1/2016 2:44:24 PM] The Mangle: See I'm the best. Essence Fluxed told me it happened around 2-3 AM my time. And, most recent logs here checked out at 1:41 AM.
3862[5/1/2016 2:47:09 PM] The Mangle: But looking up, it was, in fact, far earlier than he claimed. Apologies.
3863[5/1/2016 2:58:06 PM] Iculas: No need to apologize! Unwarranted apologies are punishable by face-smooshies and strawberry feedings. You don't want that!
3864[5/1/2016 2:58:41 PM] Iculas: Unless you're a certain person that does not like strawberries. :I
3865[5/1/2016 2:59:00 PM] Dolly Damned: I'M SORRY
3866[5/1/2016 3:10:36 PM] Iculas: XD
3867[5/1/2016 3:11:49 PM] *** Dolly Damned is so, so so so so soooooo sorry. -Wink- ***
3868[5/1/2016 3:22:24 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: just finished writing a post when the Meepette action happened. Do we want her back in the room already?
3869[5/1/2016 3:23:48 PM] Iculas: Already on it. Hence the kick from the channel
3870[5/1/2016 3:24:33 PM] Josh Hirschbeck: Yesss. I just saw that. Just saw that she was back in and was making sure, is all.
3871[5/1/2016 3:24:42 PM] Dolly Damned: Oh Slark, i remember you
3872[5/1/2016 3:33:38 PM] cold ravioli: wait, they wound up being kicked?
3873[5/1/2016 3:33:45 PM] cold ravioli: also I don't like strawberries either
3874[5/1/2016 3:34:04 PM] Iculas: Taric gave me a head's up and as soon as I saw it I kicked them right out of the channel.
3875[5/1/2016 3:34:13 PM] cold ravioli: Saw what?
3876[5/1/2016 3:34:21 PM] cold ravioli: The fight last night? Or another thing?
3877[5/1/2016 3:34:27 PM] Iculas: http://prnt.sc/az6ovp
3878[5/1/2016 3:34:53 PM] cold ravioli: ah, fair enough
3879[5/1/2016 3:35:44 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah I had a feeling they were more complicit in the kalista stuff then it appeared, also.
3880[5/1/2016 3:36:34 PM] Iculas: Yeah..... I probably should have smacked her last night as well, along with smacking Kalista for the angst-mongering at Sejuani. \o/ but hindsight is 20/20
3881[5/1/2016 3:38:30 PM] Iculas: Report log: Meepette
3882Channel logs: http://prnt.sc/az6ovp
3883Moderation logs: http://prntscr.com/az6wx0
3884After a brief bout of racism in the channel I gave her a swift kick out of the channel. If this sort of thing happens again feel free to give them a 24 hour vacation.
3885[5/1/2016 3:40:16 PM] cold ravioli: T be honest, based off that private log
3886[5/1/2016 3:40:21 PM] cold ravioli: I don't want them in the channel at all.
3887[5/1/2016 3:42:03 PM] cold ravioli: For one, 'I'm sorry, but...' things annoy me. For two, you don't defend being racist as fuck.
3888[5/1/2016 3:42:29 PM] cold ravioli: It's been a while since I've seen genuine racism, and not someone saying slurs for the lulz
3889[5/1/2016 3:42:31 PM] Sejuani: I'm going to be blunt. If I see them with any form of racial infraction from them ever again, I'm escalating to a three day long timeout, then week long. That was ridiculous, and they're not even apologetic.
3890[5/1/2016 3:42:54 PM] cold ravioli: I'm down with permanent. Now. Maybe that's just me.
3891[5/1/2016 3:43:32 PM] Sejuani: But, here's my question.
3892[5/1/2016 3:43:47 PM] Sejuani: Why are they still in the channel?
3893[5/1/2016 3:43:54 PM] cold ravioli: Wait, currently?
3894[5/1/2016 3:44:05 PM] Sejuani: Yup
3895[5/1/2016 3:44:19 PM] Sejuani: Ashe?
3896[5/1/2016 3:44:36 PM] The Mangle: Says they're offline for me. :x Might just be Slimcat, though.
3897[5/1/2016 3:45:11 PM] cold ravioli: They just posted
3898[5/1/2016 3:45:29 PM] Sejuani: [16:41]   Meepette blatantly rob Vayne blind.
3899[5/1/2016 3:45:48 PM] cold ravioli: [15:43] Meepette: Time for closing shit to start. I'll be back later.
3900[5/1/2016 3:46:01 PM] cold ravioli: My time zone is clearly superior
3901[5/1/2016 3:46:10 PM] Dolly Damned: lol
3902[5/1/2016 3:46:54 PM] Sejuani: I guess we'll wait for Ashe's comment.
3903[5/1/2016 3:50:56 PM] Iculas: First offense, I booted her out of the channel, I was pretty tempted to do all of the mentioned above but I didn't.
3904[5/1/2016 3:51:22 PM] cold ravioli: Were they just temp-kicked?
3905[5/1/2016 3:52:50 PM] Sejuani: I see. Thank you for the explanation, Ashe, but I think a more severe punishment was needed. That sort of casual racism is not tolerated.
3906[5/1/2016 3:53:03 PM] Sejuani: I was barely content with a 24 hour timeout.
3907[5/1/2016 3:54:44 PM] Iculas: That wasn't casual, and I'm not going to defend them but they were very clearly frustrated over a repeated situation while they were at work.
3908[5/1/2016 3:55:04 PM] cold ravioli: I suppose.
3909[5/1/2016 3:55:07 PM] Sejuani: They casually dropped it. That form of casual racism.
3910[5/1/2016 3:55:35 PM] cold ravioli: Heat of the moment, etcetra. But then they defended their comments even after you said they were unacceptable. That's why I was a bit like.... yeah....
3911[5/1/2016 4:01:46 PM] Iculas: Indeed. I was fairly tempted to take action on that but I took a deep breath.
3912[5/1/2016 4:01:58 PM] Iculas: After that *
3913[5/1/2016 4:41:40 PM] Sejuani: I'm slowly settling into a pattern now for checking the Inn and other channels. This is working.
3914[5/1/2016 4:41:53 PM] Sejuani: But for now, dorks, I'mma steal off. I'll be back in about a half hour
3915[5/1/2016 5:59:38 PM] Iculas: Welcome to my world. I'll show you my channel order later on.
3916[5/1/2016 11:26:02 PM] Sejuani: Syndra responded to the note and agreed to the stipulation of removing all moderators from Ignore. I'm going to unban her now.
3917[5/1/2016 11:37:05 PM] Iculas: I'll unban the ones you miss.
3918[5/1/2016 11:37:33 PM] Dolly Damned: I rather not be the one that talks to Cheery
3919[5/1/2016 11:38:28 PM] Alexander: I had just closed my chat
3920[5/1/2016 11:38:34 PM] Alexander: what did she do?
3921[5/1/2016 11:38:41 PM] Dolly Damned: I think she stopped now
3922[5/1/2016 11:38:50 PM] Dolly Damned: Just getting rather upset over hearthstone
3923[5/1/2016 11:38:58 PM] Alexander: ah
3924[5/1/2016 11:41:23 PM] Iculas: Sylvane should be completely unbanned now.
3925[5/1/2016 11:42:42 PM] Sejuani: She had other names banned?
3926[5/1/2016 11:44:48 PM] Iculas: I left one from each account/list on the banlist
3927[5/1/2016 11:45:47 PM] Iculas: Her and little Draven were the two I did that with.
3928[5/1/2016 11:45:51 PM] Sejuani: Ah.
3929[5/3/2016 2:09:19 PM] Sejuani: Not a formal warning, but providing these logs for posterity.  Momma Kallista is at it again.
3930
3931
3932[15:01]   Momma Kalista: TBh rito should buy the rights and make it cus that would  be gobbled up.
3933[15:02]   Miara Nimura: If they start doing that then the community will be flooded with fan concepts just to get some money out of them.
3934[15:02]   Momma Kalista: Miara: I know, but a girl can dream. Would you like a straw to suck the fun out more?
3935[15:02]   Miara Nimura: Fuck off.
3936[15:03]   Sejuani: Okay guys, let's be civil.
3937[15:03]   Momma Kalista: Too serious for a little poking joke? Alright then./
3938[15:03]   Miara Nimura: I have no chill today.
3939[15:03]   Momma Kalista: Feel free to ignore me, I won't mind.
3940[15:03]   Sejuani: Drop the conversation now.
3941[15:04]   Momma Kalista: Was talking to Ottie tho
3942
3943
3944Both parties tried getting the final word in, and even after I said Drop the conversation now, Kallista tries to get in the final word again.
3945[5/4/2016 11:41:04 PM] cold ravioli: Reporting Users Meepette and The Cheery Noxian (mostly meepette)
3946
3947Public logs: http://pastebin.com/5i1Q8k1H
3948
3949Private logs (Cheery): http://prntscr.com/b0ftis 
3950
3951Private logs (Meepette): http://prntscr.com/b0fy40
3952
3953Basically, cheery was complaining about adcs getting one-shot by veigar. Meepette seemed to take personal offense to this. At some point the conversation in the room turned into censorship and thought police or wahtever, but I don't think that's all that relevant.
3954[5/4/2016 11:46:41 PM] Iculas: Good fucking lord looking back over that was painful.
3955[5/4/2016 11:47:41 PM] Sejuani: Meepette has been involved in several issues now.
3956[5/4/2016 11:48:18 PM] Sejuani: Including the racism incident.
3957[5/4/2016 11:49:34 PM] Iculas: Yeah.... also I'm about to step on that fucking Veigar.
3958[5/4/2016 11:49:53 PM] cold ravioli: Eh, he didn't bother me
3959[5/4/2016 11:49:55 PM] Alexander: [22:50] Meepette: Lemme call the whaaaaaambulance.
3960[22:50] Meepette: "BAWWWW A NUKER KILLED MY SQUISHY :'( "
3961[5/4/2016 11:50:01 PM] Alexander: are you kidding me?
3962[5/4/2016 11:50:08 PM] cold ravioli: it was a bit 'rebel! fight the power' but he wasn't like, harassing anyone
3963[5/4/2016 11:50:45 PM] Iculas: I'm fairly certain he said he was leaving and not coming back. Right Darius?
3964[5/4/2016 11:51:13 PM] Alexander: huh?
3965[5/4/2016 11:51:45 PM] Iculas: Nevermind. I totally can't read on my phone. I confused what you said with what Annie said.
3966[5/4/2016 11:52:48 PM] Sejuani: I'm going to be extremely blunt on this subject.
3967[5/4/2016 11:53:33 PM] Sejuani: I believe Meepette needs to be timed out for their next infraction, no matter the severity. If this was my sole decision, they would of already enjoyed a two week ban.
3968[5/4/2016 11:54:02 PM] Dolly Damned: Catching up
3969[5/4/2016 11:54:34 PM] Iculas: I have a feeling once I review Annie's discussion with them I might just ban them. Ffs
3970[5/4/2016 11:54:42 PM] Alexander: Correct me if I'm wrong, and not to go off topic, but haven't we already had several discussions with that Veigar about 'free speech' on other characters of his?
3971[5/4/2016 11:54:52 PM] Sejuani: Their racism, complete disregard for moderation, and long history as Slark has piled up within the room.  They typically quiet down after they've been formally warned or handled, but they're still acting up after the racism incident and showed no remorse for their actions.
3972[5/4/2016 11:55:04 PM] Dolly Damned: Oh, Slark again? Goodness..
3973[5/4/2016 11:55:22 PM] Alexander: racism incident? Did I miss one?
3974[5/4/2016 11:55:42 PM] Sejuani: They made a crack a few days ago against Indian culture that was incredibly out of line.
3975[5/4/2016 11:55:52 PM] Alexander: Oh boy
3976[5/4/2016 11:56:06 PM] Dolly Damned: And Cherry...
3977[5/4/2016 11:56:09 PM] Dolly Damned: Cheery*
3978[5/4/2016 11:56:13 PM] Iculas: I swear if I removed this ass from the banlist last year....
3979[5/4/2016 11:56:19 PM] Alexander: they were timed out, right? :|
3980[5/4/2016 11:56:20 PM] Sejuani: You did, Diana.
3981[5/4/2016 11:56:25 PM] Sejuani: Slark was banned prior to the clean slate, iirc.
3982[5/4/2016 11:56:41 PM] Sejuani: Because he's been an issue since Caitlyn Johnston was still a moderator.
3983[5/4/2016 11:56:46 PM] Alexander: for the racism comment, I mean
3984[5/4/2016 11:57:07 PM] Sejuani: They were given a free pass, for some reason.
3985[5/4/2016 11:57:17 PM] Sejuani: Thus why I'm being so vocal now.
3986[5/5/2016 12:00:47 AM] Dolly Damned: Welp.
3987[5/5/2016 12:01:22 AM] Sejuani: Permission to ban?
3988[5/5/2016 12:01:30 AM] Iculas: I'm going to read the other logs with Cheery and Meepette now.
3989[5/5/2016 12:01:32 AM] *** Dolly Damned votes in favor. ***
3990[5/5/2016 12:01:46 AM] cold ravioli: aye
3991[5/5/2016 12:02:04 AM] Sejuani: They just linked A NEW CHANNEL
3992[5/5/2016 12:02:06 AM] Sejuani: in the Inn
3993[5/5/2016 12:02:09 AM] Sejuani: named Twitch Chat Lol
3994[5/5/2016 12:02:13 AM | Edited 12:02:17 AM] Sejuani: after Darius said this wasn't Twitch chat
3995[5/5/2016 12:02:19 AM] cold ravioli: they said it was in response to darius asking them to tone it down
3996[5/5/2016 12:02:25 AM] The L: ^
3997[5/5/2016 12:02:26 AM] Alexander: To be fair
3998[5/5/2016 12:02:31 AM] Sejuani: [01:00] Darius: Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a Twitch Stream, chat. Do not treat it as such.
3999[01:00] Meepette: twitch chat LoL
4000[5/5/2016 12:02:37 AM] The L: And Demoness Ahri was the one who made the suggestion
4001[5/5/2016 12:02:49 AM] The L: [01:00] Darius: Ladies and gentlemen, this is not a Twitch Stream, chat. Do not treat it as such.
4002[01:00] Demoness Ahri: (Someone make a group for MSI chat, if that's the case)
4003[01:00] The Cheery Noxian: wtf is that ryze skin
4004[01:00] Meepette: twitch chat LoL
4005[5/5/2016 12:03:29 AM] cold ravioli: so maybe let it slide I guess
4006[5/5/2016 12:03:35 AM] cold ravioli: since I get that I suppose.
4007[5/5/2016 12:03:37 AM] cold ravioli: I don't know
4008[5/5/2016 12:03:43 AM] cold ravioli: I'm annoyed by them, I don't want to vote rashly
4009[5/5/2016 12:04:02 AM] Dolly Damned: This whole thing is a mess and.. I know it sounds harsh but them being around isn't making it better
4010[5/5/2016 12:04:24 AM] Alexander: To be fair, I feel that was probably a more mature response. Though it is breaking out advertisement rule, its not like its a permanent channel.
4011[5/5/2016 12:05:02 AM] cold ravioli: I don' thtink a ban is needed, since they were just making a channel for inaneness.
4012[5/5/2016 12:05:12 AM] cold ravioli: I'd rather ban them over something actually egregious so people can't call foul play
4013[5/5/2016 12:05:22 AM] Dolly Damned: Like the points before
4014[5/5/2016 12:06:18 AM] cold ravioli: yeah but if they were to be banned for that, it should have already been done. That's th eproblem with doing reports, because then when we get to discuss it later, it seems out of nowhere.
4015[5/5/2016 12:06:18 AM] Sejuani: Or, Ashe could do that?
4016[5/5/2016 12:06:54 AM] Sejuani: Despite the fact we're discussing it? :|
4017
4018I even discussed and asked if I should ban before doing it, Diana.
4019[5/5/2016 12:07:21 AM] Alexander: So much for due process...
4020[5/5/2016 12:07:21 AM] cold ravioli: e.e
4021[5/5/2016 12:08:30 AM] Dolly Damned: Food topics always get people going
4022[5/5/2016 12:08:57 AM] The L: While I give you points for the immediate crowd control we did only have one person asking about the ban
4023[5/5/2016 12:09:04 AM] Sejuani: [01:07] Meepette: Ashe just banned me.
4024[01:07] Meepette: ???
4025[01:07] Jayce of Tomorrow: Idk the rules in there are fuckin' weird.
4026[01:07] Demoness Ahri: "You aren't allowed to advertise rooms"
4027[01:07] Demoness Ahri: "You can't chat here"
4028[01:08] Demoness Ahri: "You're stealing our public, stop!"
4029[01:08] Jayce of Tomorrow: Jello talk is so much better/more relevant than MSI chat.
4030[01:08] Demoness Ahri: That's like .. "We detected DotA 2 in your PC, you're now permabanned from league", or vice versa.
4031[01:08] Jayce of Tomorrow: Duh.
4032[5/5/2016 12:09:04 AM] The L: its not as bad as I think we're making it out to be
4033[5/5/2016 12:09:07 AM] Iculas: I read her conversation with Annie and came back to them being a shit again.
4034[5/5/2016 12:09:42 AM] Alexander: How were they being a shit?
4035[5/5/2016 12:09:45 AM] Sejuani: I'm in the channel with them. Do you mind if I try and handle PR, since you just did that without speaking to any of us?
4036[5/5/2016 12:10:14 AM] Iculas: That's three infractions in less than five days? Not putting you guys through this everytime they get in a tizzy.
4037[5/5/2016 12:10:22 AM] The L: you guys seemed in favor of the ban from what I could tell even if it was promt I don't think it was completely out of line
4038[5/5/2016 12:11:05 AM] Alexander: It was out of line, because it infringes our process. We don't ban at free whim without group consensus. Period
4039[5/5/2016 12:11:43 AM] The L: Was anyone going to contest that? Not that I'm arguing
4040[5/5/2016 12:11:57 AM] The L: it just seemed evitable
4041[5/5/2016 12:12:12 AM] cold ravioli: That was before I saw Darius telling them to tone it down for some reason
4042[5/5/2016 12:12:16 AM] Alexander: Whether its inevitable or not is entirely irrelevant.
4043[5/5/2016 12:12:21 AM] cold ravioli: I wasn't in favor of the ban for the room advertisement
4044[5/5/2016 12:12:44 AM] The L: I don't think anyone was going to ban em for the room ad Annie it was what happened before hand
4045[5/5/2016 12:12:54 AM] The L: the room ad was just something that happened during a awkward moment
4046[5/5/2016 12:13:12 AM] Dolly Damned: ^
4047[5/5/2016 12:13:30 AM] Sejuani: Actually, I'm going to be blunt. I joined this channel because I was also watching MSI, but you've changed the subject.
4048
4049
4050Meepette, you were almost put on a two week ban due to your actions earlier this week. Out of respect for your privacy, I'm not going to discuss what you did in public. [I]However, you know fully well what you did.[/I]  Your actions would of sufficed a temporary ban then and there. I was personally going to ban you for a week after seeing what you said. 
4051
4052After your earlier argument and discussion with Cheery and your continued issues in the Inn over this week? We decided to put you on timeout and were discussing the length.
4053
4054[b]Now if you want to go back to discussing MSI? I'll drop the subject.[/b] Otherwise, you're welcome to continue or to even ban me at this time.
4055[5/5/2016 12:13:35 AM] Sejuani: Do you mind if I put that in their channel?
4056[5/5/2016 12:13:40 AM] Sejuani: Because they're actively flaming the Inn.
4057[5/5/2016 12:13:44 AM] Sejuani: And Ashe.
4058[5/5/2016 12:13:44 AM] cold ravioli: I still have an issue with that. I was fine with the 'if they act out again, ban them' but me talking to them, and then having them banned a few moments later....
4059[5/5/2016 12:14:08 AM] The L: Ooooooo
4060[5/5/2016 12:14:14 AM] The L: I didn't know you were in the middle of talking with em
4061[5/5/2016 12:14:20 AM] cold ravioli: not for the room advertisement
4062[5/5/2016 12:14:23 AM] cold ravioli: but I did a whole thing earlier
4063[5/5/2016 12:14:28 AM] cold ravioli: which is what spurred this conversation
4064[5/5/2016 12:14:41 AM] Sejuani: Should I try to squash the fires in Twitch Chat LoL? Yes or no?
4065[5/5/2016 12:14:55 AM] cold ravioli: I think it'd be more tasteful to put that in a pm with her
4066[5/5/2016 12:15:00 AM] cold ravioli: up to y'all though.
4067[5/5/2016 12:15:18 AM] The L: You can try but if people aren't fans of the Inn then there's not much we can do about it at this point. And agreed with Annie in that you should talk about it in PMs
4068[5/5/2016 12:15:23 AM] cold ravioli: Might help to do it publically I guess.
4069[5/5/2016 12:15:30 AM] Iculas: Honestly, up to you guys.
4070[5/5/2016 12:15:41 AM] Sejuani: Considering there is 4 people flaming the Inn?
4071[5/5/2016 12:15:53 AM] Sejuani: I'd prefer to squash it all.
4072[5/5/2016 12:16:00 AM] The L: some of the names as well are rather surprising as well
4073[5/5/2016 12:16:07 AM] Sejuani: Master of Evil is not.
4074[5/5/2016 12:16:14 AM] Sejuani: Demoness Ahri certainly was.
4075[5/5/2016 12:16:20 AM] The L: ... x on that last 'well'
4076[5/5/2016 12:17:00 AM] Sejuani: Eden? Darius? Any input or complaint? I don't want to act out of line.
4077[5/5/2016 12:17:27 AM] cold ravioli: I'd say go for it. Seems they were ready to hate on the inn asap, regardless of meepette being banned, so it might be superfluous.
4078[5/5/2016 12:17:31 AM] Dolly Damned: I was in favor the ban, sorry I'm also focused on a side thing.
4079[5/5/2016 12:17:41 AM] Dolly Damned: Not for the room ad, clearly, but all the other stuff.
4080[5/5/2016 12:17:55 AM] Alexander: So what exactly would trying to call them out for achieve?
4081[5/5/2016 12:18:25 AM] Alexander: I mean we already banned someone without due process or any actual formal vote.
4082[5/5/2016 12:18:41 AM] cold ravioli: I dunno, I'm a bit annoyed by how the ban went since kinda feels like what I did was pointless?
4083[5/5/2016 12:18:55 AM] Sejuani: That mess was already handled, and sadly needs to be resolved as well. And yeah, it kinda does Annie.
4084[5/5/2016 12:19:00 AM] Sejuani: It invalidated the entire purpose of this.
4085[5/5/2016 12:23:35 AM] cold ravioli: I guess what's done is done.
4086[5/5/2016 12:25:21 AM] Alexander: No. Its not.
4087[5/5/2016 12:27:01 AM] Alexander: I'm not fine with simply accepting this. That was not an acceptable ban by any stretch of the imagination, co-owner or not. We made this a group effort to decide on the conduct and punishment of members of the Inn together and we will continue to do so together. You don't get pick.
4088[5/5/2016 12:28:12 AM] The L: Well within practical reasons what are we supposed to do? Remove the ban allow them back in revote considering their actions and if ban them for the length of time predetermined?
4089[5/5/2016 12:28:51 AM] Alexander: If that's what needs to be done then ya.
4090[5/5/2016 12:29:14 AM] cold ravioli: Nah, united front is more important that individual justice, especially since they were likely to be banned anyways
4091[5/5/2016 12:29:23 AM] cold ravioli: also, telling other adults what to do typically isn't a good move.
4092[5/5/2016 12:29:33 AM] cold ravioli: especially as part of a peer group
4093[5/5/2016 12:32:07 AM] Iculas: Alright so.... I said I was probably going to ban them after reading Annie's conversation with them. It looked like Eden, Sejuani, myself, and Annie were already on board with that. I'm sorry if I jumped the gun or circumvented that but let's face it. That person is going to be a shit tomorrow and a shit the day after. They're just grasping at straws right now in PMs.
4094[5/5/2016 12:32:40 AM] Sejuani: Why are you even speaking to them right now and giving them additional stuff to vent and share?
4095[5/5/2016 12:32:42 AM] cold ravioli: I'm not saying they shouldn't have been banned, but considering we were like... mid conversation here about what we should do
4096[5/5/2016 12:32:44 AM] Sejuani: As I even brought up in here.
4097[5/5/2016 12:32:50 AM] cold ravioli: felt pretty shitty to then see them just banned
4098[5/5/2016 12:33:24 AM] Sejuani: [01:30] Meepette: Ashe is just running me in circles :L
4099[01:30] Demoness Ahri: Zirene [twitter.com]
4100[01:30] Demoness Ahri: What is she saying?
4101[01:30] Meepette: Saying I've been fucking things up since Sunday when I went off about Indian customers.
4102[5/5/2016 12:33:50 AM] Iculas: Sorry Annie, I didn't mean to make you feel like that. :<
4103[5/5/2016 12:50:05 AM] Sejuani: Ashe, I hate to do this, but I'm going to make a formal inquiry here.
4104[5/5/2016 12:50:15 AM] Sejuani: I'd like the logs of what you've said to Meepette.
4105[5/5/2016 1:05:56 AM] Sejuani: Ashe, I'm asking because this may be a global issue that needs to be reported for Harassment.
4106[5/5/2016 1:07:43 AM] Iculas: Is she really being dumb enough to quote me?
4107[5/5/2016 1:08:21 AM] Sejuani: Yes.
4108[5/5/2016 1:14:38 AM] Iculas: Then report that shit?
4109[5/5/2016 1:15:29 AM] Iculas: "Does this constitute log sharing?" Bam. I'll let my colleague pick it up.
4110[5/5/2016 1:15:44 AM] Iculas: A colleague, that is.
4111[5/5/2016 1:17:50 AM] Sejuani: Ashe, I'm more worried about the channel than their time on the website at the moment.
4112
4113Several of us aren't exactly comfortable with how you handled this, or how you were the one who spoke to Meepette.
4114[5/5/2016 1:18:25 AM] cold ravioli: I'm not that worried about it. I just didn't like that it happened literally as we were discussing it, without consulting us first. Feels bad man.
4115[5/5/2016 1:19:00 AM] Dolly Damned: forgive me.
4116[5/5/2016 1:19:01 AM] Dolly Damned: http://static3.techinsider.io/image/55ba6d1f371d22dd2e8ba492-1106-1012/screen%20shot%202015-07-30%20at%202.31.57%20pm.png
4117[5/5/2016 1:19:48 AM] Iculas: I am sorry about that, I should have waited but honestly I felt like we already had a majority for it. I believe Ottie said it better than I could on such short time.
4118[5/5/2016 1:21:51 AM] Alexander: It is general practice to post log of personal conversations with members over infractions here in the chat.
4119[5/5/2016 1:22:24 AM] Iculas: What?
4120[5/5/2016 1:23:49 AM] Iculas: That is a genuinely concerning question!
4121[5/5/2016 1:26:23 AM] Alexander: When a member of the Inn is spoken to over an infraction of genuine severity, protocol dictates it is posted here so everyone can see for the sake of transparency and general record keeping. Isn't that correct? I don't see why Sejuani's request would be out of the question.
4122[5/5/2016 1:28:10 AM] Iculas: Oh lord I thought you were asking people discussing things pulled out of here and placed in the hands of others. When I can disengage and pull up skype on my computer I'll do so.
4123[5/5/2016 1:34:33 AM] Alexander: Thank you.
4124[5/5/2016 1:45:37 AM] Iculas: My pleasure. Alexander, I am sorry for jumping the gun. I knew you hadn't settled on an answer and I went for it anyway. I should have waited to see if you guys were going to get a majority without the other two.
4125[5/5/2016 2:16:53 AM] Alexander: To be frank, I didn't care for them either, and I wouldn't be surprised if, at some point, they would have been permanently banned regardless, but it shouldn't have been a permanent ban from the get go when we never went through any incremental process like we do with everyone else.
4126[5/5/2016 2:17:54 AM] Sejuani: Actually? In extreme cases, we've still had flat out permabans in place, Alexander. But no one has warranted it in a long time.
4127[5/5/2016 2:18:13 AM | Edited 2:18:37 AM] Sejuani: The last perma ban was on the Kindred who blatantly shared another roleplayer's private logs then laughed about it when they got upset.
4128[5/5/2016 2:18:54 AM] Alexander: That is an entirely different case though.
4129[5/5/2016 2:19:11 AM] Sejuani: I realize. I'm just stating for the record that the Death Penalty, per say, is still in place.
4130[5/5/2016 3:14:17 AM] Iculas: http://pastebin.com/WbHLyvz6
4131Heavy conversation at the end. It does not leave our conversation although stating that is probably obvious. Read the personal section at the end only if you're emotionally prepared.
4132[5/5/2016 10:16:48 PM] Alexander: [23:12]Sona - MaidenOfMusic: Must DO this before it's too late.
4133[23:12]Sona - MaidenOfMusic: andhisnameis
4134[23:12]Darius has kicked Sona - MaidenOfMusic from the channel.
4135[5/5/2016 10:17:37 PM] Dolly Damned: Was she doing something before that? o.O;
4136[5/5/2016 10:17:41 PM | Edited 10:17:51 PM] Sejuani: Not to come off as a cunt, Darius, but Diana made it clear she didn't want any more joke bans or kicks after the Ottie and I bout. Even when F-Chat is acting up and people are DCing.
4137[5/5/2016 10:17:51 PM] Dolly Damned: Yeah, we're not kicking people for that anymore
4138[5/5/2016 10:18:05 PM] Dolly Damned: I even went off on Tryn for doing it to their friend
4139[5/5/2016 10:18:10 PM] Sejuani: Eden did.
4140[5/5/2016 10:18:18 PM] Dolly Damned: It was not a flattering moment for me
4141[5/5/2016 10:18:51 PM] Sejuani: You came off a bit... Unflattering, yes.  But you've apologized and we needn't dredge up bad memories. I quoted Ottie and I for a reason instead of that for a reason.
4142[5/5/2016 10:18:52 PM] Alexander: They used the John Cena gif :|
4143[5/5/2016 10:19:18 PM] Sejuani: Spamming the emote once isn't really grounds for the kick, sadly.
4144[5/5/2016 10:20:17 PM] Sejuani: I hate it too, I assure you :c But no joke kicks or bans by edict of the Pale Dork who never pays attention to this..
4145[5/5/2016 10:20:36 PM] Sejuani: (Side note, chat still down for ya'll? I can't reconnect.)
4146[5/5/2016 10:20:46 PM] Alexander: I'm on
4147[5/5/2016 10:21:14 PM] Dolly Damned: I'm on
4148[5/5/2016 10:21:31 PM] Sejuani: I'm still getting this: http://prnt.sc/b0tu0y
4149[5/5/2016 10:22:15 PM] Alexander: Ya. I got that for a while.
4150[5/5/2016 10:26:42 PM] The Mangle: Hadn't even noticed the chat. Overwatch has all my attention. :| In fact, I thought Slimcat did it's usual crash.
4151[5/5/2016 10:55:03 PM] Iculas: >:|
4152[5/5/2016 11:03:20 PM] The Mangle: |:<
4153[5/5/2016 11:03:49 PM] Alexander: (sun)
4154[5/5/2016 11:04:23 PM] Iculas: Garbage based Overwatch tacos
4155[5/5/2016 11:04:37 PM] Iculas: That's right I said it.
4156[5/5/2016 11:04:47 PM] Alexander: Hey Icky
4157[5/5/2016 11:04:50 PM] Iculas: But we were all thinking it.
4158[5/5/2016 11:04:56 PM] Alexander: they have an emoticon of you on here
4159[5/5/2016 11:04:57 PM] Dolly Damned: HEY
4160[5/5/2016 11:04:59 PM] Iculas: Yis? C:
4161[5/5/2016 11:05:03 PM] Dolly Damned: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH OVERWATCH
4162[5/5/2016 11:05:06 PM] Alexander: (pig)
4163[5/5/2016 11:05:10 PM] Iculas: XD
4164[5/5/2016 11:05:25 PM] Iculas: Omg
4165[5/5/2016 11:05:39 PM] Alexander: or should I say that's Sejuani `^`
4166[5/5/2016 11:05:51 PM] Alexander: who wants some green eggs and ham
4167[5/5/2016 11:05:53 PM] cold ravioli: I have emotes turned off
4168[5/5/2016 11:05:57 PM] cold ravioli: so this looks odd
4169[5/5/2016 11:05:57 PM] Dolly Damned: same
4170[5/5/2016 11:06:03 PM] Alexander: You're ruining my moment here.
4171[5/5/2016 11:06:47 PM] Iculas: Ugh back to work with me. :(
4172[5/5/2016 11:07:59 PM] Alexander: My theme song for you, Icky
4173[5/5/2016 11:08:02 PM] Alexander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y
4174[5/5/2016 11:08:15 PM] Dolly Damned: pls
4175[5/5/2016 11:10:44 PM] Alexander: Don't hate.
4176[5/5/2016 11:13:26 PM] Alexander: Old school cartoon Lord of the Rings is the best
4177[5/5/2016 11:15:23 PM] Iculas: I have the album of that and most the music from bo5h those animated films memorized.
4178[5/5/2016 11:18:49 PM] Alexander: atta girl
4179[5/6/2016 12:13:07 AM] Sejuani: Oh hey, Comcast is done fucking me
4180[5/6/2016 12:16:04 AM] The L: did they at least lock the door?
4181[5/6/2016 12:17:04 AM] Alexander: Did they make your breakfast or atleast coffee?
4182[5/6/2016 12:17:58 AM] Dolly Damned: Pay for dinner first? I mean... Come on
4183[5/6/2016 12:18:17 AM] Alexander: Detailss, woman, details!
4184[5/6/2016 12:18:27 AM] Dolly Damned: You gonna see them again?
4185[5/6/2016 12:18:31 AM] Dolly Damned: Did they get yo number?
4186[5/6/2016 12:20:25 AM] The L: Number? They got her ass on speed dial =w=
4187[5/6/2016 12:21:08 AM] The L: 1-800-YOU-FUCK is just the secret Comcast number
4188[5/6/2016 12:21:20 AM] Dolly Damned: brb, wanna test something
4189[5/6/2016 12:21:34 AM] The L: Also someone help me I've been watching Brand Sins for hours
4190[5/6/2016 12:21:46 AM] *** Dolly Damned tries to help ***
4191[5/6/2016 12:23:34 AM] Sejuani: I've been playing Fallout IV while DCed
4192[5/6/2016 12:23:40 AM] Sejuani: But I think it's finally time to play overwatch
4193[5/6/2016 12:23:45 AM] Dolly Damned: :o
4194[5/6/2016 12:23:45 AM] Alexander: idk what Brand Sins is
4195[5/6/2016 12:23:50 AM] *** Dolly Damned claws at her ***
4196[5/6/2016 12:24:11 AM] The L: Its like Cinamea Sins
4197[5/6/2016 12:24:16 AM] The L: but for different name brands
4198[5/6/2016 12:24:17 AM] The L: Also
4199[5/6/2016 12:24:22 AM] The L: AYYYY LEMME GO WITH YA
4200[5/6/2016 12:24:31 AM] Alexander: ........
4201[5/6/2016 12:25:03 AM] cold ravioli: it's like, a list of 'sins' that brands commit, as a comedy act. Initially, it was for movies, pointing out tropes and cliches and film errors and such
4202[5/6/2016 12:25:03 AM] The L: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuNJh-8I-_4Z7thIXYRqn6g
4203[5/6/2016 12:25:04 AM] Dolly Damned: Sej, If you allow it I'd like to join ' ^ '
4204[5/6/2016 12:25:27 AM] Alexander: there's blood in my phlegm
4205[5/6/2016 12:26:00 AM] cold ravioli: Drink more water.
4206[5/6/2016 12:26:45 AM] Sejuani: I'm going to try out and learn the game alone, first. Once I actually know the maps and am not going 0-10, I'll hit you up.
4207[5/6/2016 12:26:52 AM] Sejuani: Since these are my first games
4208[5/6/2016 12:26:58 AM] cold ravioli: psh, learning the game is for nerds
4209[5/6/2016 12:27:03 AM] cold ravioli: jump in and feed :D
4210[5/6/2016 12:27:08 AM] *** cold ravioli is half-joking ***
4211[5/6/2016 12:27:14 AM] The L: Definitely do the tutorial
4212[5/6/2016 12:27:22 AM] The L: but at the same time don't be afraid to hop right in
4213[5/6/2016 12:27:42 AM] The L: its a lot easier than you think you if understand that running blindly into the enemy isn't a good idea when you're say a support.
4214[5/6/2016 12:28:45 AM] Dolly Damned: DollyDamned#1970
4215[5/6/2016 12:28:49 AM] Dolly Damned: is my bnet btw
4216[5/6/2016 12:28:58 AM] Dolly Damned: or... Dollydamned#1790
4217[5/6/2016 12:29:01 AM] Dolly Damned: shit which one is it
4218[5/6/2016 12:29:31 AM] The L: Sonmon#1861 is mine
4219[5/6/2016 12:30:46 AM] Dolly Damned: NA or EU?
4220[5/6/2016 12:32:22 AM] The L: NA
4221[5/6/2016 12:39:03 AM] Sejuani: So, I got a loot chest
4222[5/6/2016 12:39:09 AM] Sejuani: But I don't know what any of this means :|
4223[5/6/2016 12:39:29 AM] The L: you can go to the main menu to open it up and just get some random stuff
4224[5/6/2016 12:39:35 AM] The L: like skins new emotes
4225[5/6/2016 12:39:40 AM] Dolly Damned: and money!
4226[5/6/2016 12:39:49 AM] The L: new animation intros for your highlight reels
4227[5/6/2016 12:40:10 AM] Sejuani: No, no, I did that. But how exactly does that work?  
4228
4229I got one of the skins and went to go look at it, and noticed they all had pricing alongside a color coding.
4230[5/6/2016 12:40:20 AM] Sejuani: Like, for McCree I just got Mystery Man (Gold) 1000
4231[5/6/2016 12:40:38 AM] The L: you should be be able to go to the Hero Gallery
4232[5/6/2016 12:40:50 AM] Sejuani: >:| Yes dork. I understand that.
4233[5/6/2016 12:40:52 AM] The L: and go to the appropriate hero/skin to set it up 'if you have it'
4234[5/6/2016 12:41:03 AM] Sejuani: But, what is up with the tier listing of colors / numbers
4235[5/6/2016 12:41:13 AM] Sejuani: Like, for McCree I just got Mystery Man (Gold) 1000
4236[5/6/2016 12:42:18 AM] cold ravioli: you can buy the things you got from the chest for in-game currency that you can also get from the chests
4237[5/6/2016 12:42:36 AM] Dolly Damned: 1000 credits! Meaning his skin is nice priced because of that
4238[5/6/2016 12:42:44 AM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/b0uq0g
4239
4240Ah, I see.   So either you get the flat item or currency from them
4241[5/6/2016 12:43:10 AM] The L: Seems so
4242[5/6/2016 12:43:15 AM] Dolly Damned: yep!
4243[5/6/2016 12:43:15 AM] The L: I didn't know about the money thing
4244[5/6/2016 12:43:22 AM] The L: but now I'm curious on what I can buy from it
4245[5/6/2016 12:43:25 AM] Dolly Damned: you can use the credits on anyhting but player icons
4246[5/6/2016 12:43:34 AM] The L: CAUSE THAT LUCIO HIGHLIGHT REEL INTRO
4247[5/6/2016 12:43:38 AM] The L: the dj one is soooo fucking good
4248[5/6/2016 12:43:44 AM] Dolly Damned: Sooooo good omg
4249[5/6/2016 12:43:56 AM] Dolly Damned: I love Sym's highlight reel where she's fixing the cam
4250[5/6/2016 12:47:24 AM] The L: IF Zenyatta had slightly better hp stats his intro would be the fucking top teir
4251[5/6/2016 12:47:39 AM] The L: you either become robot Buddha or a perfect example of Yin Yang
4252[5/6/2016 12:47:56 AM] Dolly Damned: D.Va is love. D.Va is life.
4253[5/6/2016 12:48:03 AM] The L: NERF THIS
4254[5/6/2016 12:48:22 AM] Dolly Damned: I got my first quadra kill today with her
4255[5/6/2016 12:48:43 AM] Dolly Damned: It was highly anti climatic...
4256[5/6/2016 12:51:22 AM] The L: was it with the Ultimate?
4257[5/6/2016 12:51:37 AM] Dolly Damned: Yes. ;A;
4258[5/6/2016 12:51:42 AM] The L: then you did it right
4259[5/6/2016 12:51:49 AM] Dolly Damned: I just swung it into the room and hit behind a wall
4260[5/6/2016 12:51:52 AM] Dolly Damned: it was so boring. XD
4261[5/6/2016 12:57:42 AM] cold ravioli: You know y ou can fly as dva, right?
4262[5/6/2016 12:57:48 AM] Dolly Damned: Yeah
4263[5/6/2016 12:57:55 AM] cold ravioli: so you can go for 3 pointers with her ult :D
4264[5/6/2016 12:58:01 AM] cold ravioli: fly, self destruct
4265[5/6/2016 12:58:13 AM] cold ravioli: death from above
4266[5/6/2016 12:58:14 AM] Dolly Damned: I normally do, it's just boring :P
4267[5/6/2016 12:58:24 AM] cold ravioli: i honeslty think most of the ults kind of are, tbh
4268[5/6/2016 1:03:16 AM] The L: only a few
4269[5/6/2016 1:03:21 AM] The L: most of the ults are fucking game changing
4270[5/6/2016 1:03:25 AM] The L: LIKE SOUND BARRIER
4271[5/6/2016 1:05:59 AM] cold ravioli: they're game changing
4272[5/6/2016 1:06:06 AM] cold ravioli: but often come down to 'push button, do damage'
4273[5/6/2016 1:06:13 AM] cold ravioli: they're almost all strong as fuck, but yeah
4274[5/6/2016 11:14:42 PM] Iculas: OH LORD MAKER GRANT ME STRENGHT! >:( >:( >:(
4275[5/6/2016 11:14:50 PM] Dolly Damned: Hmm
4276[5/6/2016 11:15:45 PM] Iculas: A previously banned user just contacted me to ask if they were allowed to return to the channel. Well, a channel. Maker have mercy.
4277[5/6/2016 11:16:10 PM] Dolly Damned: We do not get paid enough for this? :P
4278[5/6/2016 11:18:44 PM] Iculas: We do not get paid for this. ;_;
4279[5/6/2016 11:18:57 PM] The L: ever
4280[5/6/2016 11:18:57 PM] Dolly Damned: That's the joke
4281[5/6/2016 11:19:11 PM] Alexander: love an appreciation?
4282[5/6/2016 11:19:43 PM] Iculas: Invariably I just looked up this person's character list because they approached me on a character that I didn't know. Maker have mercy they've been banned multiple times.
4283[5/6/2016 11:19:58 PM] Dolly Damned: ouch..
4284[5/6/2016 11:20:01 PM] cold ravioli: Just tell them no. :D
4285[5/6/2016 11:20:44 PM] The Mangle: ^
4286[5/6/2016 11:20:54 PM] Iculas: Mother fucker I'd have never removed them if I noticed it was this fucker: http://prntscr.com/b18ezt
4287[5/6/2016 11:21:01 PM] Iculas: Fuckidty fuck fuck fuck.
4288[5/6/2016 11:21:15 PM] cold ravioli: Eh, fuck it
4289[5/6/2016 11:21:23 PM] cold ravioli: gIve 'em a chance, then ban them at the first sign of misbehavior.
4290[5/6/2016 11:21:23 PM] Dolly Damned: ....
4291[5/6/2016 11:21:37 PM] Iculas: Too late. I removed them last year.
4292[5/6/2016 11:21:45 PM] cold ravioli: How's that too late?
4293[5/6/2016 11:21:58 PM] cold ravioli: I'm just saying you should say yes, but given their past incidences, they are on incredibly thin ice.
4294[5/7/2016 10:42:34 PM] cold ravioli: Did we ever talk about rewording the rules?
4295[5/8/2016 12:13:01 AM] Iculas: Ugh. No we didn't, I meant to toss that brief switch into the skype channel right off the bat.
4296[5/8/2016 12:14:07 AM] Sejuani: To be fair, I just got home. I went out tonight, and tomorrow is Mother's Day so I won't be around till later in the evening. Should we plan for Monday? Or late tomorrow?
4297[5/8/2016 12:18:12 AM] Iculas: Honestly it isn't something we all need to sit down and discuss. I'll scoop it up and shake the wording around, and drop it back in here. People can comment/edit/question at their leisure.
4298[5/8/2016 12:18:29 AM] cold ravioli: I was just reminded because someone was unclear what 'scrolling' was again
4299[5/8/2016 12:20:36 AM] Iculas: "I'm not spamming." "Shut your trap and speak like an adult and not a child on a sugar rush."
4300[5/8/2016 12:20:58 AM] cold ravioli: nah, they weren't defending themselves
4301[5/8/2016 12:21:01 AM] cold ravioli: people told them not to scroll
4302[5/8/2016 12:21:03 AM] Iculas: This is on the list of things I want to say.
4303[5/8/2016 12:21:06 AM] cold ravioli: and they were like 'wut's scrolling?'
4304[5/8/2016 12:21:45 AM] Iculas: Not knowing what an obscure term is. Ten thousand day ban.
4305[5/8/2016 12:22:51 AM] Iculas: On a lighter note Meepette still doesn't understand why she can't behave however she wants in a place that frowns on being a dick to people.
4306[5/8/2016 10:12:34 PM] cold ravioli: Should...... should I ask why "Essence Wielder" why they just make moaning sounds?
4307[5/8/2016 10:15:08 PM] The Mangle: I'm, ah. Just confused? He's not really disrupting anything. :v I mean, you can probably ask out of curiosity.
4308[5/9/2016 2:54:29 AM] Sejuani: I kind of want to warn him about that, but I'm not sure if it's proper.
4309
4310[03:52]   Master of Evil: You wanna go Sausage? Cause I swer on me mum ill fuk u up m8.
4311[03:52]   Twilight Spark: With what? Puns?
4312[03:53]   Master of Evil: Im sorry, Im not the inferior Veigar who spreads cancer.
4313[5/9/2016 2:54:45 AM] Dolly Damned: Welp.
4314[5/9/2016 2:54:55 AM] Dolly Damned: That is so not cool..
4315[5/9/2016 3:01:37 AM] Sejuani: I'll be up a bit longer, but I'm keeping an eye on him for further comments. If he messes up, I want to be able to slam him hard since he's had an iffy history.
4316[5/9/2016 5:20:26 AM] Iculas: .... never should have unbanned him.
4317[5/9/2016 6:48:14 PM] Sejuani: Annie, are you speaking to The Lunari yet?
4318[5/9/2016 6:48:38 PM] cold ravioli: did they do anything specifically wrong?
4319[5/9/2016 6:49:11 PM] The Mangle: I'm not going to lie, their minute stabs at Transgendered people and over all berating of body types wasn't the nicest thing to read. :x
4320[5/9/2016 6:49:21 PM] cold ravioli: Where?
4321[5/9/2016 6:50:22 PM] cold ravioli: I guess this is a little fringe 18:29] The Lunari: Is that the idiot who designed Taliyah?
4322[18:29] The Cheery Noxian: ye
4323[18:29] The Lunari: I always kind of thought she looked like she was originally supposed to be a transgirl
4324[18:29] Cho Gath: @_@?
4325[18:30] The Lunari: Makes more sense than her just being really ugly
4326[5/9/2016 6:50:32 PM] Sejuani: [19:29] The Lunari: Is that the idiot who designed Taliyah?
4327[19:29] The Cheery Noxian: ye
4328[19:29] The Lunari: I always kind of thought she looked like she was originally supposed to be a transgirl
4329[19:29] Cho Gath: @_@?
4330[19:30] The Lunari: [sub]Makes more sense than her just being really ugly[/sub]
4331[19:31] Cho Gath: 6.6
4332[19:32] Newt: /me doesn't think she's ugly.
4333
4334I honestly don't believe her comment was necessarily hate speech.  But I certainly believe they need to be strongly advised to settle down, and I was going to if you weren't already.
4335[5/9/2016 6:50:37 PM] Dolly Damned: .........................
4336[5/9/2016 6:50:45 PM] Sejuani: They were incredibly tasteless though.
4337[5/9/2016 6:51:00 PM] cold ravioli: in any case, loli lux was also openly laughing at someone for expressing an opinion....
4338[5/9/2016 6:51:44 PM] Sejuani: 19:44] The Lunari: If you actually LOOK at the champions, it's pretty obvious that there have been 'sexy' champions, and 'normal' champions for fucking years
4339[19:44] Herald of The Kraken: Then rub it in the dirt you bilgerat!
4340[19:44] Loli Lux: Pfffahahahhaaa
4341[19:44] The Lunari: For every Ahri, there was Kayle. MF there was Vayne. Sona there was Leona
4342[19:45] Loli Lux: AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAaa.. Oh loorrdd I need to go back to my game before I actually triggered holy fuck pffahaha.
4343
4344I saw.  I was about to hammer the room when you stepped in.
4345[5/9/2016 6:52:49 PM] Iculas: Sigh....
4346[5/9/2016 6:54:41 PM] cold ravioli: I wasn't planning on talking to either of them, to be honest. figured asking it to stop would be enough
4347[5/9/2016 7:04:04 PM | Edited 7:04:36 PM] Sejuani: Informal discussion with The Lunari regarding her comments, logging for posterity:
4348Screenshot: http://prntscr.com/b27psk
4349Logs: 
4350[19:52] Sejuani: Do you have a moment to talk?
4351[19:52] The Lunari: My attention is in and out, but fine
4352[19:57] Sejuani: I'm going to be honest with you, Scarlet. I need to speak to you as the Co-Owner of the League of Legends Inn.
4353
4354As you may of noticed, the chat was getting a bit unruly. I was about to step in and hammer it out when Annie got things to calm down, thankfully. But I was going back and over the logs for the Inn when I encountered some of your comments. I was honestly shocked that you made some of the comments you did.  Whether you intended to or not, several of your comments were undeniably tasteless. I don't believe they necessarily violated the rules, but I do want to give you a stern reminder that hate speech of any form will not be tolerated within the room.  There's nothing wrong with discussing a disparity of body types or otherwise physically or mentally disabled characters. There sincerely isn't.  But, there's a vast difference in expressing that opinion politely and how you worded yourself. Especially when it came to the transgender comments regarding Taliyah.
4355
4356You're not in trouble, but I want to make myself clear. 
4357
4358You're talking in a public forum of two hundred and fifty people. Consider what you're saying before you say it. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone or arguing a viewpoint, but you can certainly be polite when you do it. 
4359[20:01] The Lunari: Fair enough. I suppose I can agree about tying it to whether she was attractive or not. The subject is something that pushes my buttons really easily, but I'll just avoid the subject in the future since there's never any reasonable discussion that happens in the room anyway
4360[20:03] Sejuani: There is always room for reasonable discussion, and I've seen plenty of discussions range from the Lore, the Meta, and more without a moderator ever having to become involved.
4361
4362But thank you for your understanding and cooperation.  Have a pleasant night.
4363
4364
4365I'll condense those to Pastebin later.  But for now? I go and cook!
4366[5/9/2016 7:06:05 PM] cold ravioli: In my personal, and not moderator opinion, she comes off as a cunt
4367[5/9/2016 7:12:06 PM] The L: In my personal and moderator opinion she's kinda a dick
4368[5/9/2016 7:20:41 PM] Iculas: It's never pleasant to see a close friend say something like that.
4369[5/9/2016 7:21:10 PM] cold ravioli: Nope. Hopefully they were just having a bad day.
4370[5/11/2016 3:42:33 AM] cold ravioli: So this happened: public logs http://pastebin.com/SfNuTRzr
4371[5/11/2016 3:43:32 AM] cold ravioli: I don't... really know if it's report worhty, but eh, figured I'd put it here anyways.
4372[5/11/2016 3:55:03 AM] Dolly Damned: I know the topic moved on a bit by the time I got in there
4373[5/11/2016 3:55:06 AM] Dolly Damned: but food talk
4374[5/11/2016 4:15:40 AM] cold ravioli: huh?
4375[5/11/2016 4:15:58 AM] Dolly Damned: Bacon talk
4376[5/11/2016 4:16:01 AM] *** Dolly Damned hand motions.. ***
4377[5/11/2016 4:16:09 AM] Dolly Damned: Food talk is my CC
4378[5/11/2016 4:16:17 AM] cold ravioli: oh, gotcha
4379[5/12/2016 11:16:03 PM] cold ravioli: I'm gonna kick chronobreaker, unless there are any objections.
4380[5/12/2016 11:16:18 PM] The Mangle: None from me.
4381[5/12/2016 11:16:26 PM] The Mangle: He's basically asking for it, honestly.
4382[5/12/2016 11:17:17 PM] *** Dolly Damned goes to catch up ***
4383[5/12/2016 11:18:53 PM] Iculas: Yes definitely.
4384[5/12/2016 11:18:55 PM] Sejuani: If you do KIck him, make sure a stern warning is given alongside it. 
4385
4386If you're not comfortable with that, I will.
4387[5/12/2016 11:19:04 PM] cold ravioli: I'm a little busy, to be honest
4388[5/12/2016 11:19:07 PM] cold ravioli: I'm playing league with friends
4389[5/12/2016 11:19:10 PM] Sejuani: Then I'll handle it.
4390[5/12/2016 11:19:13 PM] cold ravioli: So I'd be grateful if y'all could.
4391[5/12/2016 11:20:01 PM] Iculas: Got em.
4392[5/12/2016 11:20:03 PM] Sejuani: I'm going to make my presence known and give a strong formal warning. If he makes a single comment afterward? I'm pulling the trigger.
4393[5/12/2016 11:20:12 PM] Sejuani: ...
4394[5/12/2016 11:20:13 PM] Iculas: .... doh
4395[5/12/2016 11:20:14 PM] Sejuani: Or Ashe
4396[5/12/2016 11:20:14 PM] cold ravioli: icky already did it
4397[5/12/2016 11:20:15 PM] cold ravioli: lol
4398[5/12/2016 11:20:16 PM] Sejuani: Could do that again
4399[5/12/2016 11:20:25 PM] cold ravioli: that's just unfortunate timing, tbh
4400[5/12/2016 11:20:38 PM] Iculas: Again? Come on now....
4401[5/12/2016 11:22:11 PM] Alexander: Catching up
4402[5/12/2016 11:22:39 PM] Sejuani: Are you handling the warning to him, Ashe?
4403[5/12/2016 11:26:12 PM] Sejuani: As a reminder, this is now his status: Brules dans L'enfer, Casse-toi
4404[5/12/2016 11:26:48 PM] Sejuani: For those of you who don't know what that means? 
4405
4406Burn in hell faggot, Go away.
4407[5/12/2016 11:26:54 PM] Sejuani: I'll be reporting that Globally.
4408[5/12/2016 11:28:29 PM] The Mangle: I wanted to mention it but I was unsure if it really mattered. Then again Google excluded the word faggot when I translated it.
4409[5/12/2016 11:28:43 PM] Iculas: Oh goddamnit.
4410[5/12/2016 11:29:35 PM] Iculas: Well screw it. I'm not going to be a part of this.
4411[5/12/2016 11:34:15 PM] The L: Well you can't be actually
4412[5/12/2016 11:34:19 PM] The L: you're involved already
4413[5/12/2016 11:34:25 PM] The L: so when the report comes in you can't take
4414[5/12/2016 11:34:28 PM] Iculas: Correct.
4415[5/12/2016 11:34:32 PM] The L: and I'm not taking it because I'm going to sleep
4416[5/12/2016 11:34:41 PM] The L: because I got to work 6 days next week
4417[5/12/2016 11:34:47 PM] Iculas: Which is why I didn't fucking want it reported without asking for my superior's advice.
4418[5/12/2016 11:34:48 PM] The L: and I'm actually almost pissed off about that
4419[5/12/2016 11:35:02 PM] The L: eh don't overthink it
4420[5/12/2016 11:35:11 PM] The L: report it and the Globals will handle it simple as that
4421[5/12/2016 11:35:29 PM] Sejuani: And what would be wrong with reporting it, if it is hate speech as I thought?
4422[5/12/2016 11:36:21 PM] The L: Depeneding on their history they'd probably get a warning or at worst a time out if they've been doing this for awhile
4423[5/12/2016 11:36:53 PM] Sejuani: Well, as I said, what would be wrong with reporting it.
4424
4425Ashe is acting like I was out of place to go to globals.
4426[5/12/2016 11:37:20 PM] Sejuani: We can still discuss the Inn tid bit with him, easily. The status has nothing to do with him harassing a roleplayer.
4427[5/12/2016 11:41:23 PM] Iculas: No. It's a direct reference to him being kicked out of the channel. If a Global is talking to him you nor I need to be addressing a situation with that person til they are done. I'd have liked to have just let that slide while I handled the issue properly.
4428[5/12/2016 11:41:58 PM] The L: oh right
4429[5/12/2016 11:42:02 PM] The L: no double dippin
4430[5/12/2016 11:42:46 PM] Iculas: Yeah, which that alert sound hit as I was fixing my typo. I damn near stuck my foot in the fire.
4431[5/12/2016 11:44:42 PM] Iculas: Which the shitty thing is I'm 98% certain faggot is nowhere in there. I'm not fluent in French but there aren't enough words in it.
4432[5/12/2016 11:45:11 PM] Sejuani: We have several moderation members who are not part of the Global team, and I even provided the translation I was given and said what it was.  I let you know I was reporting it Ashe. 
4433
4434And the translation I was given was what I posted in here, Ashe. I don't speak French or Canadian-French either.
4435[5/12/2016 11:48:28 PM] Iculas: I'm not making that Global's job more difficult over a matter of principle. There is absolutely no reason to jab an irritable animal with a stick when it's handler is trying to do their job.
4436[5/13/2016 1:56:16 AM] cold ravioli: late, but it seems like it means 'burn in hell, go away.' The latter part seems to have a variety of various translations, ranging from piss off, to fuck off, to go away, etc
4437[5/13/2016 2:36:31 AM] Sejuani: Since there wasn't an immediate follow up on Chronobreaker, I went ahead and wrote a note. I've submitted it (After peer review by another moderator.) 
4438
4439The formal reply can be found here: http://pastebin.com/QyM50Q7f
4440[5/14/2016 1:47:50 AM] Sejuani: It came to my attention that due to the argument about the Global report, I failed to bring up the secondary issue of yesterday. A conversation with Annie just reminded me about it.
4441[5/14/2016 1:48:34 AM] Sejuani: I believe we need to discuss a week long time out on Master of Evil or a permanent removal from the room. In the wake of the argument about the roleplay yesterday, he made these polite comments to Ekko.
4442[5/14/2016 1:48:44 AM] Sejuani: [00:13] Master of Evil: Ekko, the reason one post taking up the whole screen being fine is because ITS CONSTRUCTIVE. It isnt some asshole who cant keep their fingers off the enter key. Id prefer 10 lines of fluff over ten lines of garbage because some guy got trigger happy. ))
4443
4444^ Which was borderline okay.
4445
4446Then he gets insulting. 
4447[00:15] Master of Evil: /me sees the door some where over there.
4448[00:16] Master of Evil: Im not the one butthurt that he cant post more than 2 lines worth of text.
4449[00:17] Master of Evil: Its either that, or youre salty that no one wants to turn that green light of yours off.
4450[00:18] Master of Evil: Im just saying man, if you hate everyone here and dont like it, you are free to leave. No one is gonna stop you.
4451[5/14/2016 1:54:18 AM] Iculas: I'm angrier I took him off the banlist than Meepette and she's been insulting both my intelligence and my integrity almost daily since their ban.
4452[5/14/2016 1:54:57 AM] Sejuani: She's continued to message you since that explanation of hers?
4453[5/14/2016 1:58:40 AM] Iculas: Yes. I encouraged it, daily even. I'd unban her and told her so if she could prove to me she wouldn't just attack somebody else in the channel. General anti-mod rhetoric from various character and minor ranting interspersed with horrible logic and insinuations that she could just get unbanned using the mommy/daddy approach.
4454[5/14/2016 2:00:54 AM] Sejuani: I see.   My original opinion of them still stands, then.  I'm glad they're merely cementing their ban in with harassment.
4455[5/14/2016 2:12:25 AM] Iculas: It's more their awful logic and desperate whining. If you have their characters bookmarked you've already noticed the deletion notice that they'll be deleting characters due to LoL Inn ban.
4456[5/14/2016 11:41:12 PM] Sejuani: Cheery just posted this and I feel a need to bop them. Does anyone else believe this is racism? http://i.imgur.com/GGJcjax.png
4457[5/14/2016 11:42:12 PM] Dolly Damned: Just had to see the last head and first online of that one and I'm already saying yes
4458[5/14/2016 11:42:33 PM] The Mangle: That is certainly racism.
4459[5/14/2016 11:43:15 PM] Iculas: Most certainly inappropriate.
4460[5/14/2016 11:48:45 PM] cold ravioli: I.... hmm. It's tasteless, namely the drawing.
4461[5/14/2016 11:48:57 PM] cold ravioli: Don't know if it's like... racism racism.
4462[5/14/2016 11:50:10 PM] Sejuani: I don't think it's hate speech. It seems to be the same tongue in cheek racism that is typically presented with the whole "American walrus" meme that people draw.  
4463
4464But, it did strike me as potentially inappropriate.   Thus why I wanted to double check before doing anything.
4465[5/14/2016 11:51:01 PM] cold ravioli: I'd just say how it's a bit tasteless, and maybe suggest that they avoid sharing such things in the future
4466[5/15/2016 12:47:08 AM] Alexander: bit late to the party here, sorry
4467[5/15/2016 5:03:24 AM] Iculas: Just a heads up for everybody but Meepette is supposedly going to be contacting every single one of you in regards to their ban. You don't have to put up with it but do be careful about what you say.
4468[5/15/2016 10:15:12 AM] Alexander: can we just, not respond? :|
4469[5/15/2016 10:21:00 AM] Iculas: Correct. In fact you can play dead, ask they leave you out of this, or tell them they'll have to take it up with the co-owners. If you don't want to talk with them I'd suggest the middle option. Considering everything I don't like the idea of encouraging them to harass Sej about it.
4470[5/15/2016 12:53:44 PM | Edited 12:53:52 PM] Sejuani: Thank you for the heads up, but she's already sent me a note. 
4471
4472Ban Appeal
4473
4474I would like to appeal my ban from the League of Legends Inn.
4475
4476Some time last week Ashe banned me, after I had posted a room link during MSI. She claimed I was excessively disruptive and causing too many issues, and said if I could demonstrate to her that I was remorseful she may consider removing the ban.
4477
4478I told her I don't play the Mommy-Daddy game so I would only deal with her on this issue. Over the last several days I've done what I could to try and request my ban removed giving her time here and there between requests but ultimately she denied me claiming that I was argumentative and challenging her integrity rather than showing I was repetentent.
4479
4480I'm filing an appeal with you, and the rest of the room mods, as I do not feel my behavior merited a permanent ban from the channel, and I believe Annie would agree this was an unfair punishment given the circumstances around it. After the initial kick from the day I vented my work frustrations, I haven't broken any channel rules nor did I make attacks against or instigate people in the channel. We argued earlier that morning about the patch notes, but those are discussions about the game, which there's nowhere else on the site to really talk about it.
4481
4482I understand she's a co-owner but this is for you, the team to discuss. Given my history at the Inn I've had run ins with mods in the past (as I spoke with Annie about) but it's never been because of community problems. I remember the original owner Shen and it's one of my favorite rooms to just hang out in.
4483
4484Thank you for your time
4485
4486-Meepette
4487[5/15/2016 1:22:09 PM] Iculas: I said neither of those things but you have likely already seen what I said.
4488[5/15/2016 2:05:18 PM] Alexander: Someone just brought this to my attention.
4489[5/15/2016 2:05:21 PM] Alexander: [15:58]*Bloody Moon Elise is german, she is used to capitalize some words!
4490[15:59]Bloody Moon Elise: a fighting game with really good soundtrack
4491[15:59]General Daria: yeah and you're also used to gassing jews, but you learn to stop doing some things, no?
4492[5/15/2016 2:07:06 PM] Iculas: I have a feeling this is one of those pick your battles sort of things. Those two generally get along, distasteful as it is.
4493[5/15/2016 2:07:42 PM] Iculas: Unless she flipped her shit! Which.... I would have done.
4494[5/15/2016 2:08:33 PM] Alexander: [14:59]General Daria: yeah and you're also used to gassing jews, but you learn to stop doing some things, no?
4495[14:59]Bloody Moon Elise: sure.
4496[14:59]*Bloody Moon Elise whistles innocently.
4497[14:59]Bloody Moon Elise: i instead feed followers to my spider god.
4498[15:00]Guardian of Thraben: WOW DARIA.
4499[15:00]General Daria: well at least he's nondiscriminatory on who he eats
4500[15:00]*Guardian of Thraben Thought we could go a whole day without a holocaust joke. Nope.
4501[15:00]Bloody Moon Elise: he prefers Noxians.
4502[5/15/2016 2:08:40 PM] Alexander: Elise took it fine, it seems.
4503[5/15/2016 2:12:01 PM] Iculas: That's what I kinda assumed. I'd very much not suggest the same had she directed it to some other German user.
4504[5/15/2016 2:12:17 PM] Alexander: General Daria has been spoken to. 
4505
4506[15:06]Darius: Do you have a minute?
4507[15:07]General Daria: no more halocaust jokes?
4508[15:07]Darius: No more Holocaust jokes.
4509[15:07]General Daria: got it
4510[15:08]Darius: Thank you kindly.
4511[5/15/2016 2:12:46 PM] Iculas: Perfectly handled. Like, no exaggeration there.
4512[5/15/2016 2:13:58 PM] Iculas: That exactly the sort of reaction I used to struggle with. Sometimes short and concise is perfect.
4513[5/15/2016 2:14:15 PM] Alexander: Praise my efficiency `^`
4514[5/15/2016 2:14:40 PM] Iculas: :3
4515[5/15/2016 2:15:46 PM] Alexander: \o/
4516[5/20/2016 8:42:51 PM] cold ravioli: Reporting Morgana Exiled angel ( https://www.f-list.net/c/morgana%20exiled%20angel/ )
4517
4518Discussing ignoring someone in public.
4519
4520Logs: http://prntscr.com/b6kb04
4521[5/20/2016 8:49:41 PM] Alexander: the general lack of care for breaking the rules they give is infuriating
4522[5/20/2016 8:50:14 PM] cold ravioli: I was very tempted to kick them after they responded with the face
4523[5/20/2016 8:50:33 PM] Alexander: I would have, if I were you.
4524[5/20/2016 8:57:40 PM] Iculas: ... handling this now. ;_;
4525[5/20/2016 11:07:58 PM] cold ravioli: this is a thing
4526[5/20/2016 11:07:59 PM] cold ravioli: https://www.f-list.net/c/president%20trump
4527[5/20/2016 11:08:02 PM] cold ravioli: thoughts?
4528[5/21/2016 7:06:06 AM] *** Group call ***
4529[5/21/2016 7:06:13 AM] The Mangle: Wh
4530[5/21/2016 7:06:35 AM] Iculas: Fucking.... hate skype. Sorry!
4531[5/21/2016 7:06:42 AM] The Mangle: I should answer.
4532[5/21/2016 7:06:45 AM] The Mangle: Just for fun :Y
4533[5/21/2016 7:07:01 AM] The Mangle: But I abhor my voice so I won't.
4534[5/21/2016 7:07:52 AM] Iculas: So sorry. ;_; screen turned while I was commenting on President Trump.
4535[5/21/2016 7:08:17 AM] The Mangle: It's fine. My question is who answered the call and has kept it going lmao.
4536[5/21/2016 7:08:40 AM] Iculas: .... :|
4537[5/21/2016 7:11:16 AM] The Mangle: Alright with that out of the way I'm going to return to gushing over this trailer :y
4538[5/21/2016 7:12:21 AM] Iculas: Regarding President Trump: I was watching it all yesterday, everywhere, but I've yet to see it speak.
4539[5/21/2016 7:13:34 AM] The Mangle: Alas, I'm the last person you want to talk politics with. I've no clue what's going on outside my small town. ;;
4540[5/21/2016 7:15:47 AM] Iculas: It's just a troll character.
4541[5/21/2016 7:17:30 AM | Removed 7:17:59 AM] The Mangle: This message has been removed.
4542[5/21/2016 7:18:12 AM] The Mangle: I answered my own question. Excuse my density today. This morning has been hell x_x
4543[5/21/2016 7:19:56 AM] Iculas: No biggie! At least you didn't accidently call everybody in the channel amiright? :p
4544[5/21/2016 7:19:41 PM] cold ravioli: A thought I just had. There's nothing inthe inn rules discussing allowed kinks.
4545[5/22/2016 11:32:35 PM] Sejuani: Annie, did you notice GP's status?
4546[5/22/2016 11:33:23 PM] cold ravioli: oh, lovely
4547[5/22/2016 11:33:27 PM] cold ravioli: I'll start the report
4548[5/22/2016 11:33:31 PM] Sejuani: I've tried not commenting or getting involved, primarily because Bilgewater Capt has personally accused me of bias before.
4549[5/22/2016 11:33:37 PM] Sejuani: But, I can step in if you'd prefer me to.
4550[5/22/2016 11:33:40 PM] cold ravioli: nope, I got it
4551[5/22/2016 11:36:27 PM] cold ravioli: can you link me to the status tracker thing?
4552[5/22/2016 11:38:24 PM] Dolly Damned: https://fstatus.stormweyr.dk/c/Song
4553[5/22/2016 11:38:41 PM] Dolly Damned: sorry it brought up mine, i keep having to go back to it and firefox is just like "I GOT YOU FAM"
4554[5/22/2016 11:38:54 PM] *** Dolly Damned copypasts the reaper song all the time.. ***
4555[5/22/2016 11:40:26 PM] cold ravioli: can I move back to previous statuses? and how do I pull up someone else's?
4556[5/22/2016 11:40:38 PM] Dolly Damned: You can type their name in the URL
4557[5/22/2016 11:40:43 PM] Dolly Damned: and it'll bring up there page
4558[5/22/2016 11:40:55 PM] Dolly Damned: keep in mind, it is cap needed so if they have two caps, it has to be used
4559[5/22/2016 11:41:43 PM] Sejuani: https://fstatus.stormweyr.dk/c/Bilgewater%20Capt
4560[5/22/2016 11:41:43 PM] cold ravioli: what if they have a space
4561[5/22/2016 11:41:55 PM] Sejuani: Sorry about the delay, Annie. I didn't notice Skype at first.
4562[5/22/2016 11:42:12 PM] Dolly Damned: do spaces
4563[5/22/2016 11:42:31 PM] Dolly Damned: you know how flist has it you can use the adress bar to get to a page. Same way that works
4564[5/22/2016 11:42:32 PM] Dolly Damned: here
4565[5/22/2016 11:43:16 PM] Dolly Damned: https://fstatus.stormweyr.dk/c/Bilgewater%20Capt
4566[5/22/2016 11:43:26 PM] Dolly Damned: oh, nvm
4567[5/22/2016 11:43:41 PM] Dolly Damned: Didn't even see Sej do it, I am almost about to pass out. @_@;
4568[5/22/2016 11:44:57 PM] Sejuani: It's fine, Eden.
4569[5/22/2016 11:51:39 PM] cold ravioli: Reporting user Bilgewater Capt ( https://www.f-list.net/c/bilgewater%20capt/ )
4570[5/22/2016 11:51:42 PM] cold ravioli: woops
4571[5/22/2016 11:54:49 PM] cold ravioli: Public Logs: http://pastebin.com/TxaDj7gE
4572Private Logs: http://prntscr.com/b7b388
4573Status Logs: http://prnt.sc/b7b1ue
4574
4575Honestly, not even sure hwo to describe it. User got upset that others were making fun of gangplank. Eventually, after pointing out that it was probablby unwise to get offended over people insulting a fictional character, i asked it to stop. I then asked HIM to stop, after he didn't let it drop. Eventually, upon seeing his status, I pmed him, and spoke with him a bit. He accused me of harassment, and lied about his status.
4576
4577I may not have handled this one the best, seems I'm a little short-tempered tonight.
4578[5/22/2016 11:56:37 PM] cold ravioli: It's also worth noting that the user seems to have a history of lousy attitude, judging by the rest of his status logs.
4579
4580https://fstatus.stormweyr.dk/c/Bilgewater%20Capt
4581[5/22/2016 11:56:54 PM] Sejuani: I think you handled it fine, and he accused me of the same exact thing after a similar situation.
4582[5/23/2016 2:12:06 AM] Iculas: People harassing other people with their status messages. -_-;
4583[5/23/2016 2:41:11 AM] Iculas: Hmmm..... those channel logs were missing some important context.
4584[5/23/2016 2:41:22 AM] cold ravioli: did I not get it all?
4585[5/23/2016 2:41:24 AM] cold ravioli: I'm sorry :c
4586[5/23/2016 2:41:47 AM] Iculas: No and don't be. But the jokes about his arm? He started them.
4587[5/23/2016 2:42:06 AM] cold ravioli: Lol. I didn't even see that.
4588[5/23/2016 2:42:17 AM] Iculas: 12:02 AM] Twilight Shroud: Fuck her right in the pussy.
4589[12:02 AM] Guardian of Thraben grabs Diana.
4590[12:02 AM] Guardian of Thraben throws her IN THE TRASH.
4591[12:03 AM] Frozen Shen: Yes, that is the motto of the Kinkou. Fuck her right in the pussy.
4592[12:03 AM] Bilgewater Capt thought it was balance in all things
4593[12:03 AM] Ottie: I kinda wish that as a trio Shen, Kennen, and Akali actually worked rather well together in game
4594[12:03 AM] Bilgewater Capt not being a cunt
4595[12:03 AM] Spin to Win sits in Gangplank's lap.
4596[12:03 AM] Ottie: that would just be a little neat nod mang >:
4597[12:03 AM] Riven Bunny gave a frustrated huff to him. He was being as difficult as ever. But the touch to her head had been visibly well received, practically leaning into it, not wanting it to end. After a quick glance at the time, she lifted her eyes back towards him. Hesitantly. "Are you? Well I'm not..going to try to keep you up or anything. I mean it's not like I'm telling you to do it now! There is always..another time."
4598[12:04 AM] Frozen Shen: I do too Ottie. I do too.
4599[12:04 AM] Bilgewater Capt cocks a brow,"Why?"
4600[12:04 AM] Spin to Win: Why not?
4601[12:04 AM] Remina puts a hat on GP's hat
4602[12:05 AM] Cho Gath pet pets Remina!
4603[12:05 AM] Remina mehueue
4604[12:05 AM] Bilgewater Capt: I literally bombarded Demacia's port for shits and giggles once, thought the vanguard of justice would want me dead.
4605[12:05 AM] Warring Kingdoms: She is hot, Cap't.
4606[12:05 AM] Academy Talon: [sub]They do...[/sub]
4607[12:05 AM] Trans-Jhin-der: Ottie, did you know, for every other Ninja on the same team, there's a cumulative -1 hp penalty? "Ninjas work better alone"
4608[12:05 AM] Ottie: I know 
4609[12:05 AM] Warring Kingdoms: Just do her before she changes her mind!
4610[12:05 AM] Spin to Win: ^
4611[12:05 AM] Bilgewater Capt: That she is, but so is Fortune. And I have a fuckin FAKE ARM BECAUSE OF THAT WENCH
4612[12:05 AM] Ottie: its a very confusing thing for a 'Ninja Team' to actually have though.
4613[12:05 AM] Trans-Jhin-der: I wish there were more hidden passives like that
4614[12:05 AM] Spin to Win: I mean, what?
4615[12:06 AM] Frozen Shen: I agree Ottie.
4616[12:06 AM] Warring Kingdoms: You can come sit on my lap, Garen, Dear.
4617[12:06 AM] Trans-Jhin-der: Well they're not so much a team as just clanmates
4618[12:06 AM] Twilight Shroud: ^_^ We are exact;y extremely dysfunction in game
4619[12:06 AM] Bilgewater Capt grabs the female Demacian,"Nah, I'll take a hostage".
4620[12:06 AM] Ottie: Well Kennen works in a lot of different situations compared to Akali =w=
4621[12:06 AM] Spin to Win: ... Wait, I'm a hostage?
4622[12:06 AM] Ottie: [sub] Sorry I just had to make note of that. [/sub] 
4623[12:06 AM] Twilight Shroud: Akali is not a champion she is a minon.
4624[12:07 AM] Remina: Yes
4625[12:07 AM] Twilight Shroud: Yorick levels of bad
4626[12:07 AM] Herald of The Kraken cocks a brow.
4627[12:07 AM] Arcade-Fortune: You talkin' shit Gangplank/
4628[12:07 AM] Frozen Shen: Rip
4629[12:07 AM] Bilgewater Capt glares at Illaoi,"TAKIN' ME CITY BACK, AND PISS OFF FORTUNE"
4630[12:07 AM] Herald of The Kraken "And?"
4631[12:07 AM] Arcade-Fortune: I WOULD, BUT YOU'RE NOT DEAD SO I CAN'T PISS ON YOUR GRAVE
4632[12:08 AM] Twilight Shroud: you mean his graves.
4633[12:08 AM] Twilight Shroud: He's been dead already.
4634[12:08 AM] Arcade-Fortune: Akali, I will shoot you.
4635[12:08 AM] The Cheery Noxian: http://i.imgur.com/vWcFsju.jpg?1
4636[12:08 AM] Frozen Shen: I laughed.
4637[12:08 AM] Twilight Shroud: I've survived worse.
4638[12:08 AM] Bilgewater Capt "LET ME HAVE MY HOSTAGE TO NEGOTIATE FOR PRISONERS"
4639
4640[12:08 AM] Frozen Shen: Also I would not recommend that. She is very good at making one bleed.
4641[12:08 AM] Bilgewater Capt "THEY TOOK ME PARROT"
4642[12:08 AM] Arctic Ops Lamb: So I'm making myself dinner right now, reading the instructions, the last bit reads: "Stir, Remove from heat. Stir in the tomato herb sauce. Refrigerate leftovers." Like, can't I eat it before I refrigerate it?
4643[12:08 AM] Spin to Win: ... I can get your parrot?
4644[12:09 AM] Warring Kingdoms: A very good choice for a hostage, Cap't.
4645[12:09 AM] Remina: eat it
4646[12:09 AM] Spin to Win: I'm kind of a terrible hostage. MY PRINCE DOESN'T WANT ME ;~;
4647[12:09 AM] Bilgewater Capt: I MISS LIL CRACKERS, ME BOY WAS TAKEN FROM ME YEARS AGO
4648[12:09 AM] Jarvan IV [sub]groaned, though the time was tearing into the late of night, so doing such things now would prove troublesome later. After a little bit more of the head-patting, he leaned downwards, giving her rear yet another quick grope. "Fair enough! Though, at the rate things are heading I might just drag you upstairs into my bed with me.~" Of course he meant such things in regard to the top-laner.[/sub]
4649[12:09 AM] Twilight Shroud: Blood is my favorite color (●´ω｀●) 
4650[12:09 AM] Spin to Win: See?
4651[12:09 AM] Spin to Win: He takes the Noxian hobo over me.
4652[12:10 AM] Magical Girl Lux claps.
4653[12:10 AM] True Noxian Might thinks Akali is the only one he can tolerate now.
4654[12:10 AM] Frozen Shen rubs his chest, frowning under his mask "...Yeah."
4655[12:10 AM] Twilight Shroud licks her lips and drools a bit red.
4656[12:10 AM] Warring Kingdoms: Ex-Noxian. She left us.
4657[12:10 AM] Arcade-Fortune: ... You had a parrot named Crackers?
4658[12:10 AM] Herald of The Kraken: Your parrot was annoying, Gangplank.
4659[12:10 AM] Remina: Akali, staph
4660[12:10 AM] Arcade-Fortune: Jesus, I guess your balls were already missing...
4661[12:10 AM] Bilgewater Capt: Aye....AND YE AREN'T THE BOSS OF ME BOYS, ILLAOI
4662[12:11 AM] Arcade-Fortune: [sub]What's there to be a boss of?[/sub]
4663[12:11 AM] Bilgewater Capt: Me parrot ;w;
4664[12:11 AM] Vladimir: I can't believe GP had a parrot. [sub]That's so wonderful and stereotypical.[/sub]
4665[12:11 AM] Warring Kingdoms: His other hand?
4666[12:11 AM] Arcade-Fortune: Buy a new one you nerd.
4667[5/23/2016 2:42:21 AM] cold ravioli: Ijust noticed whenhe started getting upset, and figured that's where it started.
4668[5/23/2016 2:43:09 AM] Iculas: I suspect he was in a bad mood prior, given how sensitive he was after.... well, doing exactly what he did last time.
4669[5/23/2016 2:43:27 AM] cold ravioli: I did see that message.
4670[5/23/2016 2:43:49 AM] cold ravioli: I just didn't think it was important. Mah bad.
4671[5/23/2016 2:44:47 AM] Iculas: But I think you handled that well, although his response to your private conversation really makes me wish it'd have been reported.
4672[5/23/2016 2:45:10 AM] cold ravioli: I was hoping he'd do it too.
4673[5/23/2016 2:45:51 AM] cold ravioli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucKnpvPaAeM&ab_channel=Chris.Jones
4674[5/23/2016 2:45:52 AM] Iculas: Because that "PERSONAL" status of his is a public broadcast, one I'd have been more than happy to cite him for considering the shit he said in them. I probably will end up doing that tomorrow. :/
4675[5/23/2016 2:46:03 AM] Iculas: XD
4676[5/23/2016 2:48:52 AM] Iculas: Speaking of which, before I go to bed I'm going to leave a link here somebody brought to me. Renekra and Morthil, I already assessed it but since it was brought to me I thought I'd leave it here.
4677http://pastebin.com/z76E4xsP
4678[5/23/2016 2:51:32 AM] cold ravioli: I don't see the problem?
4679[5/23/2016 2:51:35 AM] cold ravioli: IT's all IC.
4680[5/23/2016 2:54:57 AM] cold ravioli: Not overly fond of the rp itself, but it was all copacetic as far as I can see.
4681[5/23/2016 2:59:02 AM] Iculas: That's what I was thinking. I was going to talk to Renekra and see what she had to say about it. I mean.... quite honestly I can't see why they'd harass somebody "like that" and increase their post size as it would.... kinda imply they wanted to roleplay with them, yes? I don't know how Morthil thinks about it but ya know, always good to be prepared.
4682[5/23/2016 2:59:37 AM] cold ravioli: yeah. I don' tlike it because REnekra is denying the premise, which is bad improv
4683[5/23/2016 2:59:38 AM] cold ravioli: but eh
4684[5/23/2016 3:05:41 AM] Iculas: I could argue both sides of it too easily. Anyway, I think it's time to go beddy-bye.
4685[5/23/2016 3:05:49 AM] cold ravioli: sleep well!
4686[5/23/2016 3:05:55 AM] Iculas: o/
4687[5/23/2016 3:21:28 PM] cold ravioli: Nothing crazy, but have another report
4688[5/23/2016 3:22:56 PM] cold ravioli: Reporting user: Ahran ( https://www.f-list.net/c/ahran/ )
4689Public Logs: http://prntscr.com/b7m3kt
4690
4691Like I said, nothing crazy, but as always, recording for posterity.
4692[5/23/2016 5:48:58 PM] Sejuani: I am never going to understand these "dank" memes. I legitimately want to do nothing more than to kick these idiots.
4693[5/23/2016 5:50:44 PM] The Mangle: Please don't say it's my idiots.
4694[5/23/2016 6:29:13 PM] Iculas: Yes that's good. Feel the hate flow through you.
4695[5/23/2016 6:29:45 PM] Iculas: ..... I mean: what are you talking about? Stupid typos.
4696[5/27/2016 8:03:02 PM] The Mangle: I'm going to gather logs shortly (Overwatch has my attention, so go me I missed the whole thing.) But I thought I'd ask how you all felt about that little Skirmish between Volpe (Mama Kalista) and The Cheery Noxian.
4697[5/27/2016 8:11:57 PM] The Mangle: http://pastebin.com/xCJwCmhn
4698
4699Hopefully that's enough, the conversation the hostility sparked from goes a long way back, being a discussion of balance and who is or isn't Overpowered in the game. Again, the suspects are Volpe ( https://www.f-list.net/c/volpe ) And The Cheery Noxian ( https://www.f-list.net/c/The%20Cheery%20Noxian ) But I may also mention there are few users whom complained about Cheery's discussions, but it ended up being Volpe she got into an actual fight with it seems.
4700[5/27/2016 8:13:12 PM] cold ravioli: http://prntscr.com/b9bgp7
4701[5/27/2016 8:13:37 PM] cold ravioli: the screen caps cheery gave me http://i.imgur.com/vuUmpv2.png
4702[5/27/2016 8:13:46 PM] cold ravioli: I haven't had a chance to read over it yet, either, as I'm about to get dinner.
4703[5/27/2016 8:18:12 PM] Sejuani: Will red when Comcast up.  On phone
4704[5/27/2016 8:21:42 PM] Sejuani: Sorry I can't do more atm. Comcast acting up all fay.
4705[5/27/2016 8:22:18 PM] Sejuani: If you need me for an opinion and can tldr I can try and help. But otherwise, I trust ypu.
4706[5/27/2016 8:26:57 PM] Alexander: Just got home from dinner with friends.
4707[5/27/2016 8:35:59 PM] Alexander: Have either of them been spoken to?
4708[5/27/2016 8:38:48 PM] The Mangle: As of now, I haven't spoken to either.
4709[5/27/2016 8:41:06 PM] The Mangle: I figured I'd see what the rest of you have to say before taking action.
4710[5/27/2016 8:44:30 PM] Alexander: Still reviewing it myself, personally, but to be perfectly frank I don't find Cheery to be in the wrong in this situation at all.
4711[5/27/2016 8:45:02 PM] cold ravioli: To flavor the situation a bit, Volpe=Mama kalista, ify ou didn't already know.
4712[5/27/2016 8:46:09 PM] Alexander: Kyrell was being blatantly snide and about the whole situation to begin with, without any provocation as far as I can see and Volpe simply came in for no damn reason to just issue personal attacks that had no genuine value
4713[5/27/2016 8:46:10 PM] Alexander: at all
4714[5/27/2016 8:46:20 PM] Iculas: I didn't before this was posted but I do now. Makes sense.
4715[5/27/2016 8:47:54 PM] The Mangle: I could have sworn I mentioned Volpe was Mama Kalista. But I agree with Darius, I don't think Cheery did anything wrong here.
4716[5/27/2016 8:48:26 PM] Alexander: You did. I had noticed it when you said it the first time.
4717[5/27/2016 8:48:34 PM] cold ravioli: I thought you did too, I just wasn't sure.
4718[5/27/2016 8:48:54 PM] Alexander: could always scroll up a few inches :|
4719[5/27/2016 8:49:50 PM] Iculas: Mangle was the reason I knew. When I sober up a little I'll try to read it again. It's a little hard to focus right now.
4720[5/27/2016 8:51:55 PM] cold ravioli: Wow, cheery's being straight up bullied
4721[5/27/2016 8:51:56 PM] cold ravioli: wtf
4722[5/27/2016 8:52:01 PM] Alexander: yeah
4723[5/27/2016 8:52:45 PM] Alexander: I mean Cheery has a bad rep, but this is entirely unacceptable treatment
4724[5/27/2016 8:52:50 PM] The Mangle: It's honestly not pretty.
4725[5/27/2016 8:53:59 PM] Alexander: Were we on the case of Kalista getting timed out next time she fucked up?
4726[5/27/2016 8:54:23 PM] cold ravioli: honeslty kalista didn't seem to do much
4727[5/27/2016 8:54:28 PM] The Mangle: I'm not fond of Cheery, frankly. I mostly find the annoying, but the whole situation does come off as nothing but needless bullying. And, I don't remember, Darius.
4728[5/27/2016 8:54:28 PM] cold ravioli: lemme double checkthough
4729[5/27/2016 8:55:11 PM] Alexander: I don't care much for them either, frankly. But I don't have to like someone to stand up for them.
4730[5/27/2016 8:55:11 PM] cold ravioli: ah, nvm, yeah, volpe was being a cunt
4731[5/27/2016 8:55:12 PM] cold ravioli: again
4732[5/27/2016 8:56:08 PM] Alexander: again?
4733[5/27/2016 8:56:21 PM] cold ravioli: volpe=mama kalista. I was reading the logs
4734[5/27/2016 8:56:28 PM] cold ravioli: and at first, I thought cheery misunderstood volpe's comment
4735[5/27/2016 8:56:37 PM] cold ravioli: but nope, just mama kalista being mama kalista
4736[5/27/2016 9:00:54 PM] Alexander: I know its over and hour late, but I'd recommend at least a week timeout for this shit and repeated previous offenses. I'll handle it and speaking to them if you want me to
4737[5/27/2016 9:03:02 PM] The Mangle: I second the timeout for them. :x This is pretty god damn bad.
4738[5/27/2016 9:03:06 PM] cold ravioli: More than anything, I think the poeple involved, as well as the entire room, needs to be reminded that ganging up on someone and making snide comments about them is NOT okay.
4739[5/27/2016 9:04:41 PM] cold ravioli: Melayna, Champion Shyv, Kyrell, and Volpe
4740[5/27/2016 9:05:36 PM] cold ravioli: Ninjai Ashes potentially , as well, though they only said 'The Fabled Cheery Noxian.'
4741[5/27/2016 9:06:38 PM] Alexander: At the very least, Kyrell needs a stern talking
4742[5/27/2016 9:06:41 PM] The Mangle: I hate to interject on mere bases of "They're my friend." But, I can assure Ninjai's comment was in jest and not meant to offend. I know for a fact Her and Cheery are on good terms.
4743[5/27/2016 9:06:58 PM] cold ravioli: I'm just saying, given the context, it's potentially snide.
4744[5/27/2016 9:07:06 PM] cold ravioli: But it'd be a reach at best, and they didn't do anything else
4745[5/27/2016 9:07:20 PM] cold ravioli: however, comemnts like 'just let her htink she's right' and 'she always gets like this when balance comes up' are not okay, imo
4746[5/27/2016 9:08:23 PM] The Mangle: Oh, no. Absolutely not. I can speak to Kyrell if need be.
4747Iculas
4748[5/27/2016 9:09:07 PM] Iculas: Still too drunk but I thought I'd leave a record here, just as a reminder of the last time somebody had to speak with her.
4749[5/27/2016 9:11:25 PM] Alexander: I remember that. I'd still prefer to issue a timeout regardless of that previous conversation. I understand that its quite a reasonable and good discussion they had with you at the time, but it hardly seems to me as though they've made any strides in changing.
4750[5/27/2016 9:12:20 PM] cold ravioli: A tangent: SHould we have separate groups for reports, and for discussions? I imagine it makes it a bit hard to find things when they're buried under countless lines of text.
4751[5/27/2016 9:13:02 PM] Alexander: That wouldn't be the worst idea
4752[5/27/2016 9:16:34 PM] The Mangle: I certainly wouldn't mind that. :v
4753[5/27/2016 9:18:24 PM] Alexander: Icky, do you want us to wait for you to sober up or shall we proceed at our better judgment?
4754[5/27/2016 9:19:50 PM] Dolly Damned: ^
4755[5/27/2016 9:21:04 PM] cold ravioli: Not sure if we're doing a public message, but here's what I have so far: http://prntscr.com/b9bx0y
4756[5/27/2016 9:24:02 PM] Alexander: That looks pretty solid to me.
4757[5/27/2016 9:24:17 PM] cold ravioli: Just waiting for a go-ahead.
4758[5/27/2016 9:24:40 PM] cold ravioli: Should accompany any time-outs we're doing, imho.
4759[5/27/2016 9:25:26 PM] Alexander: I think it would be better to speak to volpe before the timeout is handed out. I'll start speaking to them now and leave any discussion about punishments at the end.
4760[5/27/2016 9:50:21 PM] Sejuani: Sweet merciful Jesus, I'm back.
4761[5/27/2016 9:50:28 PM] Sejuani: Catching up now.
4762[5/27/2016 10:02:07 PM | Edited 10:02:52 PM] Alexander: Closing up the conversation with Volpe. I'll present logs of it once its done. I resend my previous statement for a week timeout, though perhaps a 24 hour one might not be out of the question. 
4763
4764Just as last time, they are reasonably understandable of the situation throughout the conversation and understand what they did.
4765[5/27/2016 10:02:13 PM] Alexander: http://pastebin.com/PNdG5dhs
4766[5/27/2016 10:02:43 PM] cold ravioli: they always are
4767[5/27/2016 10:02:45 PM] cold ravioli: then they do it again
4768[5/27/2016 10:06:03 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah I'm still in favor of a week. The fact that they're calm, and aware of their problems, doesn't make it better. If anything, i tmakes it worse.
4769[5/27/2016 10:07:19 PM] Sejuani: Since I actually have internet, and I'm reviewing the situation, mind giving me a moment to completely catch up before we pull the trigger on anything?
4770[5/27/2016 10:07:34 PM] Alexander: To be frank, my resending from a week is due to the fact that they have not received any prior timeouts and typically we follow by a tier of punishment rather than just a case to case basis of what we feel like.
4771[5/27/2016 10:07:48 PM] cold ravioli: oh, fair enough. I don't know the tier.
4772[5/27/2016 10:08:00 PM] Alexander: Not to worry. I'm refraining from anything until we come to a consensus
4773[5/27/2016 10:08:43 PM] Sejuani: The tiers have been skewed lately, due to administrative action. But the original plans and ideas in mind for punishment?
4774
4775Warning > Warning > 24 Hours > 48 Hours > Week > Discussion of Perm or 2 Weeks > Month / Discussion of Perm
4776[5/27/2016 10:09:03 PM] cold ravioli: ah, aight, then 24 hours is probably warranted
4777[5/27/2016 10:09:53 PM] Alexander: I'd prefer to get back to our original plans, personally, outside of extraneous situations.
4778[5/27/2016 10:13:51 PM] Sejuani: I'd agree that the twenty four hour ban is warranted after reviewing everything.
4779[5/27/2016 10:18:32 PM] Alexander: I believe that is four in favor then?
4780[5/27/2016 10:20:07 PM] Sejuani: From what I've taken from the situation? 
4781Mangle, Annie, Darius, and myself is all in favor of it. 
4782
4783Tryndamere, Eden, and Ashe seem to be predisposed and haven't voted.
4784[5/27/2016 10:20:24 PM] Sejuani: We have a slight majority, but I can't foresee there being any real protest to this ban. I'd say issue it.
4785[5/27/2016 10:20:39 PM] Alexander: By your will. I will inform them.
4786[5/27/2016 10:20:59 PM] Sejuani: Twenty four hour ban ending at 12:30 AM EST, 5/29/2016
4787[5/27/2016 10:22:02 PM] Alexander: in that same vein, was anyone opposed to Annie's public statement?
4788[5/27/2016 10:22:16 PM] Alexander: likewise has anyone spoken to Kyrell yet?
4789[5/27/2016 10:22:29 PM] Sejuani: I approve of the public reminder, it seems to be a persisting issue over the last week and a half.
4790[5/27/2016 10:22:50 PM] Dolly Damned: agree to all the things
4791[5/27/2016 10:22:57 PM] Sejuani: However.
4792[5/27/2016 10:23:14 PM] Sejuani: Are you certain Volpe is Mama Kallista?
4793[5/27/2016 10:23:18 PM] Sejuani: 100% certain?
4794[5/27/2016 10:23:29 PM] cold ravioli: I'm not. Can we ask Ottie?
4795[5/27/2016 10:23:44 PM] Alexander: I have no certainty on that.
4796[5/27/2016 10:23:58 PM] Alexander: Would it be out of order for me to just ask them?
4797[5/27/2016 10:24:30 PM] Sejuani: Based on everything I understand (without using site tools,) they are the same person. But, I can't willy nilly use my tools to confirm this. As a channel owner? I would presume they are the same person.
4798[5/27/2016 10:25:13 PM] Sejuani: Mangle, what made you say they are the same person? Just to verify.
4799[5/27/2016 10:26:28 PM] Sejuani: Ah, yes. Confirmed.
4800[5/27/2016 10:26:40 PM] Sejuani: I looked a bit further into their profile's OOC section, it's the same person.
4801[5/27/2016 10:27:01 PM] Alexander: Alright. Just want to make sure before I said anything to them
4802[5/27/2016 10:27:13 PM] Sejuani: http://prntscr.com/b9cbyy
4803[5/27/2016 10:27:35 PM] Sejuani: Same customs, same OOC section, same timezone.
4804[5/27/2016 10:27:51 PM] The Mangle: Before sending my initial message, I asked Essence Fluxed what he made of the situation. The first thing he told me was Volpe was Kalista. I'm glad it was confirmed because I was about to search logs for them admitting it. x_x
4805[5/27/2016 10:27:52 PM] Alexander: dat carryfucking
4806[5/27/2016 10:28:27 PM] The Mangle: He's my seeing eye explorer
4807[5/27/2016 10:29:11 PM] Sejuani: Darius, you mentioned plans.
4808[5/27/2016 10:29:20 PM] Sejuani: Do you need to get to it, or should I handle it?
4809[5/27/2016 10:29:27 PM] Alexander: Huh?
4810[5/27/2016 10:29:38 PM] Sejuani: [Friday, May 27, 2016 10:09 PM] Alexander: 
4811
4812<<< I'd prefer to get back to our original plans, personally, outside of extraneous situations.
4813[5/27/2016 10:31:02 PM] Alexander: Oh! No no no
4814[5/27/2016 10:31:22 PM] Alexander: apologies, I was referring to our punishment tiered system.
4815[5/27/2016 10:31:28 PM] Sejuani: Ah, alright.
4816[5/27/2016 10:31:58 PM] Sejuani: If you would, slap the ban on Volpe instead of Mama Kallista, however.
4817[5/27/2016 10:32:16 PM] cold ravioli: Por que no los dos?
4818[5/27/2016 10:32:48 PM] Sejuani: Room for an argument of alt sharing if we did. And I want to make sure she doesn't try to ban evade, because if she does? I'll happily pinch her head off.
4819[5/27/2016 10:33:03 PM] Sejuani: Let's see if she tries to use the lack of formal connection between them to try and ban evade.
4820[5/27/2016 10:33:27 PM] Alexander: Ah
4821[5/27/2016 10:33:46 PM] cold ravioli: I mean, I get what you're saying
4822[5/27/2016 10:33:52 PM] cold ravioli: but it seems weird to ban them on that one instance, yknow?
4823[5/27/2016 10:33:53 PM] Alexander: well I had already asked her which she preferred and she asked if she could have it set on Mama Kalista because she uses it more
4824[5/27/2016 10:34:51 PM] Alexander: Should I tell her that I need to use Volpe instead?
4825[5/27/2016 10:35:44 PM] Sejuani: If you've already asked and shown that we know who it is, Mama Kallista is fine for the ban.
4826[5/27/2016 10:35:51 PM] Sejuani: I just wanted to see if she would dig her own grave.
4827[5/27/2016 10:35:52 PM] Alexander: okay
4828[5/27/2016 10:40:32 PM] cold ravioli: anyone doing the message thing, or nah?
4829[5/27/2016 10:41:06 PM] Sejuani: I had presumed you'd want to take the stage. Would it make you more comfortable if I did it?
4830[5/27/2016 10:41:21 PM] cold ravioli: I just figured it'd be whoever did the ban. I don't mind posting it myself, nbd either way.
4831[5/27/2016 10:41:35 PM] Sejuani: `^` Ashe and I may be the owners, but you are our moderators for a reason. And typically it'd also be the banner, but yes.
4832[5/27/2016 10:41:48 PM] cold ravioli: Doing it now
4833[5/27/2016 10:42:01 PM] Alexander: I can do it, if you want.
4834[5/27/2016 10:42:24 PM] cold ravioli: alraedy did
4835[5/27/2016 10:43:28 PM] Sejuani: If Mama Kallista does anything questionable within the next few days, slap her with another 24 hour ban.  If it's an egregious offense, 48 hour. She will learn to be polite or be removed from our community.
4836[5/27/2016 10:44:12 PM] Alexander: Aye aye.
4837[5/27/2016 10:44:17 PM] Alexander: o7
4838[5/27/2016 10:44:22 PM] The Mangle: Understood. :v
4839[5/27/2016 10:45:43 PM | Edited 10:46:08 PM] Sejuani: I'm surprised Cheery didn't dig their own grave tonight, though. They've reformed quite a bit since last year. A year ago, they would of broken out a hundred different insults and found themselves permanently banned tonight. 
4840[5/27/2016 10:46:14 PM] Alexander: They have their moments but I believe they have certainly improved
4841[5/27/2016 10:48:07 PM] Sejuani: Also, I may as well ask in here. Is anyone aware of any active Leona roleplayers? I'm asking for an unofficial reason, but figured you dorks may know.
4842[5/27/2016 10:51:32 PM] Alexander: I've seen Sunflower Leona but that's about it, I think
4843[5/27/2016 10:52:28 PM] Alexander: Oh, I know one
4844[5/27/2016 10:52:33 PM] Sejuani: Oh?
4845[5/27/2016 10:52:45 PM] Sejuani: Well, we may as well take this to private to avoid pinging everyone.
4846[5/27/2016 11:47:47 PM] cold ravioli: update regarding kyrell
4847[5/27/2016 11:47:49 PM] cold ravioli: it's Irele
4848[5/27/2016 11:49:53 PM] Sejuani: Is that so?
4849[5/27/2016 11:51:43 PM] Iculas: I object!
4850[5/27/2016 11:51:56 PM] Iculas: want some ham * sorry typo.
4851[5/27/2016 11:52:03 PM] cold ravioli: Yup
4852[5/27/2016 11:52:08 PM] cold ravioli: He just confirmed it in discord.
4853[5/27/2016 11:52:22 PM] cold ravioli: Not that I like to tattle, but figured the info was relevant.
4854[5/27/2016 11:54:18 PM] Iculas: It is, I caught up while I was still in bed btw. I'm proud of you guys.
4855[5/28/2016 12:07:35 AM] cold ravioli: Here, have another report. Sir Sona
4856
4857http://prntscr.com/b9cwmg
4858[5/28/2016 12:08:32 AM] Sejuani: I don't quite believe Sir Sona did anything wrong there. Could you expound?
4859[5/28/2016 12:16:36 AM] Iculas: I saw that myself. I had to bite back the urge to say something because I told them the very next time one of us had to speak with them I'd be removing them.
4860[5/28/2016 12:16:37 AM] cold ravioli: They were mocking those who enjoyed the stream, more or less.
4861[5/28/2016 12:17:08 AM] cold ravioli: the 'XDDDDDDD' post is purely and completely sarcastic, in a wake of people commenting on finding it funny
4862[5/28/2016 12:17:16 AM] cold ravioli: also I don't like them, so my tolernace for them is almost 0
4863[5/28/2016 12:17:27 AM] cold ravioli: figured I'd report it more for posterity then me thinking they needed immediate action
4864[5/28/2016 12:21:13 AM] Iculas: Well to be honest if they're feeling a little angsty and that came out of their mouth then it's possible their ban-inducing action might be coming up in the next couple of hours. We'll have to wait and see.
4865[5/28/2016 12:21:49 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah may have been kinda hoping they'd say something and escalate the situation.
4866[5/28/2016 12:30:33 AM] Sejuani: The XDDDDDDD is a reference directly to Tyler1's stream, Annie. 
4867
4868"hehe xD" or "heeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeee xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD" is what he typically types or even says while streaming. 
4869
4870And honestly? I don't find the act funny either, despite normally enjoying Tyler1's antics. 
4871
4872While I don't approve of them in a formal fashion, as an user his stream is enjoyable. He expressed an opinion, but it was hardly disrespectful or rude.  If anything? I wanted to smack Choy bottom's for being antagonizing.
4873[5/28/2016 12:31:10 AM] cold ravioli: it's not tyler1
4874[5/28/2016 12:31:14 AM] cold ravioli: at all
4875[5/28/2016 12:31:20 AM] cold ravioli: and yes, the 'xddddddd' is directly rude
4876[5/28/2016 12:32:23 AM] Sejuani: Then whom is the streamer? Because the only "bald" streamer I'm aware of its him.
4877[5/28/2016 12:32:26 AM] cold ravioli: cowsep
4878[5/28/2016 12:33:22 AM] cold ravioli: https://www.twitch.tv/cowsep
4879[5/28/2016 12:33:26 AM] cold ravioli: the stream in question
4880[5/28/2016 12:33:33 AM] Sejuani: I see. I presumed Tyler1 was more likely to crossdress for parody than Cowsep.
4881[5/28/2016 12:34:09 AM] cold ravioli: he did it for a stream goal or something. In any case, I'm 99% sure that sona's words there were not a reference, but jus tmocking those enjoying the stream
4882[5/28/2016 12:34:37 AM | Edited 12:34:53 AM] Sejuani: Without it being Tyler1, I'll rescind the comment on the xD. As I said, I presumed on the context of bald streamer as it being Tyler1.
4883[5/28/2016 12:35:13 AM] cold ravioli: Iiiin any case, it's a mild thing, just figured posterity and such was a good thing
4884[5/28/2016 12:36:50 AM] Sejuani: Pleasant to see Comcast is already down though. Wonder how long it will last this time.
4885[5/28/2016 12:37:01 AM] cold ravioli: Your internet is down again?
4886[5/28/2016 12:37:28 AM] Iculas: D:
4887[5/28/2016 12:37:53 AM] Sejuani: On mobile
4888[5/28/2016 12:38:03 AM] cold ravioli: That's really really annoying. Sorry to hear that.
4889[5/28/2016 12:38:06 AM] Sejuani: Oh mvm. It's up.  Switching back
4890[5/28/2016 12:38:35 AM] Sejuani: Well, that was pleasant.
4891[5/28/2016 12:38:40 AM] Sejuani: Shorter than the last time.
4892[5/28/2016 9:57:43 PM] cold ravioli: This happened: http://prntscr.com/b9oljp
4893User: Righteous Fury
4894[5/28/2016 10:02:17 PM] The Mangle: Yuck. :c
4895[5/28/2016 10:03:46 PM] cold ravioli: oh, right, profile link https://www.f-list.net/c/righteous%20fury/
4896[5/29/2016 1:54:46 AM] Alexander: You should have given them an hour time out, frankly
4897[5/30/2016 3:25:36 AM] Sejuani: *Reporting User:* Darius
4898Reason: Homophobic Language
4899
4900He called lesbians GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. 
4901
4902I move to immediately ban this person `^`
4903[5/30/2016 3:25:47 AM] cold ravioli: seconded
4904[5/30/2016 3:25:57 AM] Alexander: Fight me, dweebs
4905[5/30/2016 3:26:19 AM] Sejuani: `^` Okay.
4906[5/30/2016 3:26:23 AM] *** Sejuani puts them up. ***
4907[5/30/2016 3:26:43 AM] *** Alexander is a trained pugilist. Have at thee! ***
4908[5/30/2016 3:28:48 AM] *** Sejuani is equipped with a +1 Mithril Banhammer.  Wins `^` ***
4909[5/30/2016 3:30:11 AM] Iculas: Ummmmm..... lesions are a fairly jovial bunch.
4910[5/30/2016 3:30:23 AM] Iculas: ..... wow auto correct PLEASE.
4911[5/30/2016 3:30:35 AM] Alexander: lmfao
4912[5/30/2016 3:30:51 AM] cold ravioli: Huh. I didn't know that lesions were so... welcome? happy?
4913[5/30/2016 3:31:06 AM] Sejuani: Neither did I. The Lepers will be overjoyed.
4914[5/30/2016 3:31:48 AM] Iculas: I hate you all. Maker have mercy. XD
4915[5/30/2016 3:32:43 AM] *** Sejuani needed this distraction. Sincerely hates doing customs with a passion. ***
4916[5/30/2016 3:32:59 AM] cold ravioli: custom kinks? if y ou hate them, why do them?
4917[5/30/2016 3:34:03 AM] Alexander: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih2L4EKfhQI&index=19&list=PLW1Yb5N9dD8fYmXCGSfrJ67uncFEhRiyx
4918[5/30/2016 3:34:07 AM] Alexander: distraction
4919[5/30/2016 3:34:18 AM] cold ravioli: I've already seen it
4920[5/30/2016 3:34:21 AM] cold ravioli: so it fails
4921[5/30/2016 3:34:35 AM] cold ravioli: I still love Sips. I really can't explain why.
4922[5/30/2016 3:34:39 AM] Alexander: You didn't ask for the distraction, did you?
4923[5/30/2016 3:34:55 AM] Alexander: No? Then shut up >:c
4924[5/30/2016 3:34:57 AM] cold ravioli: I'M FROTHING AT TH EMOUTH FOR MINECRAFT
4925[5/30/2016 3:37:21 AM] Alexander: STUFF IT DOWN THEIR FUCKING THROATS! MINECRAFT!
4926[5/30/2016 3:37:44 AM] cold ravioli: but yeah, sips is great, hat films is great. hat films ft sips is possibly my favorite vids
4927[5/30/2016 3:38:22 AM] Alexander: I tend to only enjoy Sips when he's with Hat Films
4928[5/30/2016 3:38:26 AM] Alexander: anyway I need sleep.
4929[5/30/2016 3:38:32 AM] cold ravioli: I like him solo, but in a different way
4930[5/30/2016 3:38:38 AM] Alexander: lewd
4931[5/30/2016 3:38:47 AM] Iculas: Sleep well kind sir.
4932[5/30/2016 3:38:55 AM] cold ravioli: i'm crtashing too, gnight all
4933[5/30/2016 3:43:51 AM] Sejuani: Sleepy well!
4934[5/30/2016 3:44:21 AM] Iculas: G'night you two.
4935[5/30/2016 1:25:13 PM] The Mangle: I'm filing a quick report for user The Champ ( https://www.f-list.net/c/the%20champ/ )
4936
4937Nothing terribly offensive, just a meme character. I asked them to take their business elsewhere and they politely agreed to do such.
4938
4939Screencap: http://puu.sh/paCag/f142e41c1c.png
4940[5/31/2016 8:54:11 PM] Sejuani: *Reporting Incident:* Tristana and Caravrandt:
4941Public Logs of the Incident: http://pastebin.com/n9LmidEZ
4942
4943[21:47] Excellia: >:c Be polite Tristana.
4944[21:47] Tristana: It's hard to.
4945[21:47] Howling Bloodhunter yawns some.
4946[21:47] Azir The Hawk-Father gives Excellia some grass to chew on to calm her down
4947[21:47] Azir The Hawk-Father: Mooooooooo
4948[21:47] Azir The Hawk-Father: Mooo mooo moo.
4949[21:47] Howling Bloodhunter sniffs the air. Smells some beef.
4950[21:47] Broccoli: Night, everyone.
4951[21:47] Azir The Hawk-Father communes with the beast bitch
4952[21:47] Tristana: I've actually studied this and a wanton normie tries to tell me I'm wrong with little understanding about anything and the most generic basis.
4953[21:48] Sejuani: Then allow me to make it easier. Let's be polite and not insult another user.
4954[21:48] Lynn Ae-Jung: Where is this beef?
4955[21:48] Tristana Grump.
4956[21:48] Caravrandt not so Grump.
4957[21:48] Sejuani: If you do not like another user, and cannot communicate with them, place them on Ignore. Do not make facetious comments about them, nor antagonize an argument.
4958
4959
4960They got in an argument regarding skins. I'm damn tempted to give Tristana the boot for a day for blatantly ignoring moderation warnings.
4961[5/31/2016 9:05:49 PM] The Mangle: Lowkey that was painful to read.
4962[6/3/2016 12:26:28 AM] Sejuani: I'm waiting for Master of Evil or Moonzie to cross the line.
4963[6/3/2016 12:26:32 AM] Sejuani: I'll be ready with a boot.
4964[6/3/2016 12:27:26 AM] cold ravioli: [00:23] Master of Evil: How about you people chill before you actually piss me off with this stupid pseudo-mod shit?
4965[6/3/2016 12:27:30 AM] cold ravioli: feel like he already kinda did
4966[6/3/2016 12:27:54 AM] Sejuani: I was damn tempted off of that comment.
4967[6/3/2016 12:28:04 AM] Sejuani: But, I'd rather have him dead to rights.
4968[6/3/2016 2:01:13 AM] Iculas: I started to go back and look.
4969[6/3/2016 11:33:16 AM] Alexander: Seeing this now.. Please tell me the fucker got the smackhammer
4970[6/5/2016 1:04:26 AM] cold ravioli: Once again I'm reminded that there's no rule discussing which kinks are or aren't allowed in the inn. Seems like an oversight.
4971[6/5/2016 1:05:41 AM] Alexander: ?
4972[6/5/2016 1:05:58 AM] cold ravioli: I'm not complaining about anything in there atm
4973[6/5/2016 1:06:24 AM] cold ravioli: I'm just saying that yeah, there's not a rule saying anything about kinks, s uch as like, ageplay, or gore, or scat, etc etc
4974[6/5/2016 1:09:00 AM] Iculas: We removed most mention of that sort of thing when we became primarily OoC to help discourage roleplaying in the channel. We've pretty much always operated on a "if you're asked to stop then stop" policy when it comes to extreme kinks.
4975[6/5/2016 1:09:40 AM] cold ravioli: As always, I'm just playing devil's advocate. Someone could be a total pissant and be TECHNICALLY correct, yknow?
4976[6/5/2016 1:09:56 AM] Iculas: I believe it was stated in the rules "Be advised that extreme/niche kinks may get you asked to take it elsewhere.
4977[6/5/2016 1:10:02 AM] cold ravioli: It's not
4978[6/5/2016 1:10:09 AM] cold ravioli: There's no mention of kinks anywhere in the current rules
4979[6/5/2016 1:10:18 AM] cold ravioli: Unless I'm blind
4980[6/5/2016 1:10:23 AM] cold ravioli: Which is completely possible
4981[6/5/2016 1:10:45 AM] Iculas: Except they can't. They want to argue it direct them to me and we'll see how long they can argue it before they're just arguing to argue.
4982[6/5/2016 1:11:28 AM] cold ravioli: But why even give them taht window?
4983[6/5/2016 1:11:32 AM] Iculas: There is no technically correct when a moderator tells you to knock something off unless the rules specifically say you can do something.
4984[6/5/2016 1:12:12 AM] Iculas: If they want to complain about it that is what Sejuani and I am here for. Squashing them.
4985[6/5/2016 1:12:26 AM] cold ravioli: I still don't see why that window is even left open.
4986[6/5/2016 1:12:55 AM] cold ravioli: Furthermore, since there's no rule or mention of it, if someone WERE uncomfortable, based off the rules, they may just leave, since they may not approach someone to put an end to it.
4987[6/5/2016 1:14:36 AM] cold ravioli: I mean, I get what you're saying. But I don't see the HARM in having some mention of what is and isn't okay, or at least the mention that they may be asked to stop.
4988[6/5/2016 1:48:43 AM] Iculas: In my experience if somebody is indulging in an extreme kink in the channel and it's making people uncomfortable we'll here about it.
4989[6/5/2016 1:49:10 AM] *** cold ravioli is still unclear why the window is left open, but we're just talking in circles now. ***
4990[6/5/2016 1:49:38 AM] Sejuani: I've been gone most of the day, and am honestly just getting in and too tired to really do this, but we've needed to redo the rules for some time Ashe.
4991[6/5/2016 1:50:27 AM] Iculas: Futhermore: 
4992_Shocking and Harmful Content
4993This is intended to prevent general public areas from being exposed to content that is considered excessive, extreme fetish, or niche. That kind of material belongs only in chat rooms dedicated to that kind of content.
4994Posting avatars, descriptive content, or links to websites/images to shocking or commonly disturbing content in public areas
4995Deliberately posting or linking to content which is excessively distressing, disturbing, or otherwise harmful to other users
4996Links containing malware, phishing sites, or other threats to computer security
4997Posting hard kinks in rooms where they do not belong
4998Note: Hard kinks (Scat, death, watersports, birthing, vore, and the like) must be kept to their respective public channels (or private rooms that allow those kinks).
4999[6/5/2016 1:52:00 AM] Iculas: We removed most of the roleplaying mention from the rules to further encourage people to play in the Fountain, with the intent to push more serious roleplaying in that direction regardless. I find it a little a little odd that Ageplay isn't on that list.
5000[6/5/2016 1:57:47 AM] cold ravioli: Yeah but then we never really did the whole 'push people to rp in the fountain' thing. And we currently have multi-para rp in the inn, with potentially objectionable content.
5001[6/5/2016 1:58:17 AM] cold ravioli: I'm not saying I don't like it
5002[6/5/2016 1:58:20 AM] cold ravioli: I'm fine with it.
5003[6/5/2016 1:58:28 AM] cold ravioli: But I think having some mention for it would not be a bad thing.
5004[6/5/2016 1:58:28 AM] The Mangle: If someone's complaining about the scene, I'd have happily taken it to private. :x
5005[6/5/2016 1:58:32 AM] Iculas: ^
5006[6/5/2016 1:58:32 AM] cold ravioli: No one's complaining.
5007[6/5/2016 1:59:21 AM] cold ravioli: It just reminded me of something that I think could be improved.
5008[6/5/2016 1:59:43 AM] Iculas: If there isn't somebody complaining then I don't really have a problem with it, in any aspect. It shows that people either aren't reading it or they're reading it and don't have a problem with it. If there were a rule disallowing it then we'd have to ask them to take it to the Fountain(If that is allowed!) or to PMs.
5009[6/5/2016 2:00:14 AM] cold ravioli: The rule was always along the lines of 'if requested'
5010[6/5/2016 2:00:26 AM] The L: I'm complaining
5011[6/5/2016 2:00:28 AM] Iculas: Which sorta proves the point against it. If something is getting too extreme from public you're more than welcome to ask them to take it elsewhere.
5012[6/5/2016 2:00:32 AM] cold ravioli: There have been many gruesone scenes in the inn over the years
5013[6/5/2016 2:00:36 AM] The L: about Ashe's lack of pants and lack of pants in general
5014[6/5/2016 2:00:40 AM] The L: Its time to stop
5015[6/5/2016 2:00:49 AM] *** cold ravioli cedes, is making no progress ***
5016[6/5/2016 2:01:00 AM] cold ravioli: I don't understand the resistance to a little blurb, but eh, I give.
5017[6/5/2016 2:02:03 AM] Iculas: I don't have a problem with returning the old portion of the rules to the current rules. I just explained why it was gone and poked holes in the argument. We don't need something to be specifically mentioned as not allowed.
5018[6/5/2016 2:02:16 AM] The L: Well the asking to take it elsewhere only works if you know people actually take it elsewhere
5019[6/5/2016 2:02:34 AM] The L: otherwise you're back at square one wit ha argument in the channel as to 'why' they should
5020[6/5/2016 2:02:42 AM] The L: which is solved by having the 'what's allowed' bit
5021[6/5/2016 2:04:09 AM] Iculas: It's my experience that if something is making somebody uncomfortable they're going to come tugging on my skirt whether or not there is anything I can actually do about it. I don't really see anything wrong with the current content but you can sure as hell bet if somebody lost an arm or they were pooping all over the tables somebody would be up in arms about it.
5022[6/5/2016 2:04:39 AM] The L: notice how if you had pants they wouldn't need to tug on your skirt
5023[6/5/2016 2:05:16 AM] Iculas: I refuse. Pants killed Tupac.
5024[6/5/2016 2:05:30 AM] The L: no being involved with Drugs killed Tupac
5025[6/5/2016 2:05:35 AM] Alexander: Tupac ain't dead
5026[6/5/2016 2:05:37 AM] The L: getting shot with a pistol is what killed Tupac
5027[6/5/2016 2:05:43 AM] Alexander: his ass is livin in Cuba
5028[6/5/2016 2:05:52 AM] The L: If he ain't dead then I'm Morgan Freeman
5029[6/5/2016 2:06:08 AM] The L: if that's the case then Ashe I'm gonna give you the most narrative fuck in the universe
5030[6/5/2016 2:06:12 AM] Alexander: Please, narrate my life
5031[6/5/2016 2:06:36 AM] *** The L swears to god Morgan Freeman has his own damn eulogy planned out and everything on a tape recorder ***
5032[6/6/2016 3:59:47 PM] Ronni Usagi: I know I brought it up before I went on leave but...
5033[6/6/2016 3:59:58 PM] Ronni Usagi: Has there been any more thought about bringin in another handful of mods?
5034[6/6/2016 4:00:44 PM] Sejuani: Another handful? 
5035
5036Could you expound on why you believe they're needed, in your opinion?
5037[6/6/2016 4:02:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: Speaking from the standpoint before I took my break; replacing inactive members with active ones, fresher set of eyes on the room, those that can touch more on times when others are not around in general. Again I don't know if it was talked about before I left :x I was just wondering
5038[6/6/2016 4:05:37 PM] Sejuani: And do you feel the current moderation team is missing ongoing issues and or unable to properly address them? Or, do you feel there's an issue that needs a crack down? I've been watching the chat most of this afternoon. Within the past four hours, I've only seen one questionable thing. 
5039
5040Icon spam.
5041[6/6/2016 4:08:31 PM] Ronni Usagi: As I said, this was from before my leave. I know for awhile I had.. Really been the only one watching it. That was one of the major reasons I needed to step away with real life cominc in. I'm not going "grr everyone flooking sucks" or something along those lines, but I will admit there are those whom been inactive all together even before my leave. It also never hears to have a few more
5042[6/6/2016 4:08:38 PM] Ronni Usagi: hurts* forgive me I am about to pass out
5043[6/8/2016 11:58:22 PM] cold ravioli: Why did you 'ahem' the one eicon, darius?
5044[6/9/2016 12:00:25 AM] Alexander: John Cena is frowned upon.
5045[6/9/2016 12:01:23 AM] cold ravioli: I don't recall that
5046[6/9/2016 12:06:04 AM] Sejuani: That was my personal distaste of it, but until the rules are edited to disallow 'Twitch icons' and memes there isn't really a reason to bash it.    I typically spoke about it when people were spamming it and it was super contagious.
5047[6/9/2016 12:06:24 AM] cold ravioli: I was just curious, tbh. I'm not pro cena memes
5048[6/10/2016 1:54:58 AM] cold ravioli: Reporting Master of Evil: Nothing major, just more snark. Not even sure if it's worht a report, but whatevs.
5049
5050logs: http://pastebin.com/DB2WwXFH
5051
5052I didn't say anything beyond the comment in the inn.
5053[6/10/2016 12:08:54 PM] Iculas: Civility isn't his strong point, nor is common sense.
5054[6/10/2016 12:09:19 PM] The Mangle: Damn, Savage
5055[6/11/2016 3:39:13 AM] The Mangle: Reporting user Farlight ( https://www.f-list.net/c/farlight/ )
5056Public logs: http://puu.sh/poFKs/ba4c2786ef.jpg
5057Private warning: http://puu.sh/poFLm/91bfa39d1b.png
5058
5059Nothing too serious, aside from the icon spam which stopped shortly after I asked them to on an alt. Albeit with a few stragglers, once everyone said they were done Farlight tossed in a somewhat snarky icon at the end. And thus I gave him a warning about it. I was, however, too late to log onto Kindred and issue a proper warning to the channel.
5060[6/11/2016 8:11:08 PM] cold ravioli: Reporting user Bird Dad ( https://www.f-list.net/c/bird%20dad/ )
5061
5062Public Logs: http://pastebin.com/fALr0ZZP
5063Private Logs: http://prntscr.com/bfawda
5064
5065Some antagonism that seems to have been genuinely intended to be IC. Azir The Hak-Father ( https://www.f-list.net/c/azir%20the%20hawk-father/ ) contacted me, however, and I handled the situation by encouraging bird dad to use /me to make it more clear when he was and wasn't being 'IC.'
5066[6/12/2016 11:15:55 AM] Iculas: As a heads up, the largest mass shooting in US history happened last night. A gay club in Orlando, at least 50 dead and at least another 50 injured. Despite this being a tragedy, it is likely going to be talked about in chat, and undoubtedly some users are going to make very in poor taste jokes and references. So do be warned and prepared, as we'd like to avoid public discussion of it (given how likely this can spiral out of hand), and any users deeming it wise to be inappropriate and make in poor taste jokes? Report them to site staff and remove them from the channel for a duration at your discretion.
5067[6/12/2016 11:18:24 AM] The Mangle: Roger.
5068[6/12/2016 2:59:30 PM] Alexander: Aye
5069[6/12/2016 7:54:27 PM] cold ravioli: Can someone with the ability to see alts tell me if God-King Draven is an alt for Bird Dad
5070[6/12/2016 7:59:29 PM] Iculas: I cannot tell you if they are or aren't but their online timers don't mesh up.
5071[6/12/2016 8:13:26 PM] Iculas: Well that was a particularly unpleasant display.
5072[6/12/2016 8:13:27 PM] cold ravioli: I move to timeout Cocky Janna and God-King Draven.
5073
5074Reporting: Cocky Janna and God-King Draven ( https://www.f-list.net/c/cocky%20janna/ ) ( https://www.f-list.net/c/god-king%20draven/ )
5075
5076Public Logs: http://pastebin.com/B6AAQUFk
5077Private Logs Janna: http://prntscr.com/bfobcx
5078Private Logs Draven: http://prntscr.com/bfobgs
5079
5080It's potentially partially IC, however Janna claims she wasn't even slightly.
5081[6/12/2016 8:15:15 PM] cold ravioli: Icky, any objections to me timing them out?
5082[6/12/2016 8:20:01 PM] Iculas: Considering they both kept going? Yes. They both seem to require an understanding of when to stop when they're told to stop.
5083[6/12/2016 8:21:47 PM] cold ravioli: how long?
5084[6/12/2016 8:22:55 PM] Iculas: A few hours or a day, preferably a day if that's how they're going to be about it. Tell them if they have any complaints they can talk to me about it or send Sej or I a formal complaint via note.
5085[6/12/2016 8:23:13 PM] cold ravioli: so how do I do that?
5086[6/12/2016 8:23:22 PM] cold ravioli: I know it's in minutes, right?
5087[6/12/2016 8:23:27 PM] cold ravioli: so it's /timeout x minutes?
5088[6/12/2016 8:24:02 PM | Edited 8:25:47 PM] Iculas: Well fuck you too skype. 
5089[6/12/2016 8:24:28 PM] cold ravioli: so, just to check
5090[6/12/2016 8:24:32 PM] cold ravioli:  /timeout 1440 minutes
5091[6/12/2016 8:24:44 PM] cold ravioli: where do I put the user name?
5092[6/12/2016 8:26:29 PM] Iculas: Well shit skype is absolutely dumb. you can type / help to get the proper syntax but it should be /timeout Cocky Janna, 1440
5093[6/12/2016 8:26:43 PM] cold ravioli: ah, aight
5094[6/12/2016 8:34:00 PM] cold ravioli: Further logs
5095Cocky Janna: http://prntscr.com/bfogh7
5096God-King Draven: http://prntscr.com/bfogna
5097
5098Also a user has informed me that Renekra is Cocky Janna? Any way to confirm this?
5099[6/12/2016 8:35:38 PM] Iculas: ...... online timers match up perfectly.
5100[6/12/2016 8:36:22 PM] cold ravioli: Should I report them, or ask them to leave?
5101[6/12/2016 8:39:42 PM] Iculas: If they say something report them. I'll check back in about fifteen or twenty minutes and if they're still lurking I'll say something to them myself.
5102[6/12/2016 8:39:44 PM] cold ravioli: More logs, this time from God- Draven. Sorry in advance, Icky and Sej
5103
5104http://prntscr.com/bfoicj
5105[6/12/2016 8:39:57 PM] cold ravioli: *God-King Draven.
5106[6/12/2016 8:40:56 PM] Iculas: Yeah that doesn't surprise me in the least. Hopefully he contacts me about it. I hope you said Pale Diana and not Ashe. I don't want to have to sign in on Ashe.
5107[6/12/2016 8:41:27 PM] cold ravioli: I'm pretty sure I said Pale Diana
5108[6/12/2016 8:41:43 PM] cold ravioli: I did :D
5109[6/12/2016 8:44:12 PM] Iculas: :D
5110[6/12/2016 8:51:29 PM] cold ravioli: Renekra is still on, I think God-King wants to talk.
5111[6/12/2016 8:52:54 PM] cold ravioli: Final logs from God-King Draven, hopefully: http://prntscr.com/bfolpp
5112[6/12/2016 8:54:26 PM] Iculas: Looks like they chose Sejuani I guess.
5113[6/12/2016 8:54:45 PM] cold ravioli: They said they sent a note
5114[6/12/2016 9:12:48 PM] Sejuani: I'm still stuck on mobile, and will be stuck on mobile for another hour.  I'll be leaving for home then, and after maybe a twenty minute drive, I'll be home and check my inbox.
5115[6/12/2016 9:13:53 PM] cold ravioli: Well  you've lovely mod bullshit waiting for you. \o/
5116[6/12/2016 9:13:55 PM] cold ravioli: Yaaaayyyy
5117[6/12/2016 9:14:10 PM] Sejuani: God-King Draven is not Bird Dad. I know who the user is, and I can say they do not have a history of this. They typically obey the rules fairly well. 
5118
5119
5120Cocky Janna is in fact Renekra, if I'm remembering the right profile.  Is the avatar a circular Janna picture with various scent related kinks on it, like Musky Balls and Sweat?
5121[6/12/2016 9:14:48 PM] cold ravioli: yes. Though that bit's being settled already, thankfully.
5122[6/12/2016 9:14:51 PM] Sejuani: If so, I'm not afraid to publicly link those and stand by that. Because those profiles have been linked (for weeks at a time) in the past.
5123[6/12/2016 9:14:58 PM] Sejuani: Alright.
5124[6/12/2016 9:15:00 PM] Iculas: Take your time. It's pretty much a case of somebody wanting to be a dick, somebody else realizing they weren't in character, and the person being so unremorseful that they felt it was that person's fault for not realizing they were OoC.  Renekra immediately evaded their timeout.
5125[6/12/2016 9:15:11 PM] Sejuani: If there is anything I can do, feel free to ask.
5126[6/12/2016 9:15:27 PM] Sejuani: Not much else for me to do here. I'm just doggy sitting and watching Netflix.
5127[6/12/2016 9:15:28 PM] Iculas: realizing = thinking. Everything is under control right now, I'm sorry they sent the note to you though. Poopy.
5128[6/12/2016 9:15:36 PM] cold ravioli: Well god-king is pretty upset, and said he sent a note to one of y'all. Since icky didn't get one, I'm assuming it was sent to you.
5129[6/12/2016 9:15:46 PM] cold ravioli: Yeah, I was hoping they'd go with pdiddy
5130[6/12/2016 9:16:11 PM] Sejuani: I wouldn't be surprised.   God-King Draven is friendly with me as is, and probably expects their status as my friend will change things.
5131[6/12/2016 9:16:33 PM] cold ravioli: In truth, I feel that cocky janna was more out of line than draven
5132[6/12/2016 9:16:39 PM] Sejuani: I tried to read the logs, but my tablet isn't exactly proper for reading. It's better suited for Netflix, ect.
5133[6/12/2016 9:16:42 PM] cold ravioli: however, draven definitely missed obvious cues that things were going too far
5134[6/12/2016 9:16:57 PM] Iculas: Well I have a feeling reason is what he's banking on given his stance. However his stance was also being somewhat of an ass to both somebody in the channel and a channel moderator. So that's on them.
5135[6/12/2016 9:17:00 PM] Sejuani: If you told them to drop it, and they didn't drop it, then they deserved the axe even if they don't have a history of misbehaving.
5136[6/12/2016 9:17:17 PM] Iculas: I don't think he missed them at all, given how he behaved.
5137[6/12/2016 9:17:21 PM] The L: Clocking out at 10 15
5138[6/12/2016 9:17:27 PM] cold ravioli: they dropped it more than janna, tbh, but they were both over the line, and I definitely didn't want to be seen as playing favorites.
5139[6/12/2016 9:18:40 PM] Sejuani: I'll be sure to review the logs and handle the note when I'm home.
5140[6/12/2016 9:18:52 PM] Sejuani: But, I won't be leaving for another hourish. Expect me home around 11:30 Central, 12:30 EST
5141[6/12/2016 9:18:54 PM] cold ravioli: Sorry for the pending bs.
5142[6/12/2016 9:19:02 PM] Sejuani: I don't mind at all, so don't apologize.
5143[6/12/2016 9:19:19 PM] Iculas: Don't be. It's what we're here for, sorry you had to handle poop. :c
5144[6/12/2016 9:19:48 PM] Sejuani: However, Annabelle, you do owe me an explanation.
5145[6/12/2016 9:19:56 PM] Sejuani: Where's my diamonds? Get to diggy diggy hole!
5146[6/12/2016 9:20:13 PM] cold ravioli: I thought that was tuesday?
5147[6/12/2016 9:21:13 PM] Sejuani: It is, but I was making a joke =p
5148[6/12/2016 9:21:23 PM] cold ravioli: oh, i was worried xD
5149[6/12/2016 9:21:28 PM] Sejuani: We're holding off on the server until Tuesday, since tomorrow is my last day house sitting / doggy sitting.
5150[6/12/2016 9:22:01 PM] cold ravioli: speaking of diggy diggy hole, despite it being an arguably silly song, I really enjoy this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0&ab_channel=YOGSCASTLewis&Simon
5151[6/12/2016 9:22:15 PM] Sejuani: Exactly what I was referencing :D
5152[6/12/2016 9:23:01 PM] cold ravioli: They took something silly and made a pretty fekkin' epic song out of it
5153[6/12/2016 9:23:08 PM] cold ravioli: It actually gives me chills. Or maybe i"m just a sap
5154[6/12/2016 11:40:22 PM] Sejuani: I'm home, and will handle the issue shortly.
5155[6/12/2016 11:40:35 PM] Sejuani: Just need a bit to get settled in.
5156[6/12/2016 11:42:03 PM] The L: I'm going to be
5157[6/12/2016 11:42:29 PM] The L: The will to stay awake is at all time go
5158[6/12/2016 11:42:44 PM] Sejuani: You will be what?
5159[6/12/2016 11:44:17 PM] The L: In bed @A@
5160[6/12/2016 11:44:49 PM] The L: I can't do anything without a 60% chance of failing or being to annoyed
5161[6/15/2016 1:30:39 AM] cold ravioli: Someone remind me of who -rengar- is and why they're banned?
5162[6/15/2016 1:31:15 AM] Ronni Usagi: https://www.f-list.net/c/-Rengar-
5163[6/15/2016 1:31:25 AM] Iculas: One moment.
5164[6/15/2016 1:31:25 AM] Ronni Usagi: I can't recall if their an alt of someone or not
5165[6/15/2016 1:31:59 AM] Sejuani: They were banned for being disrespectful to other users.
5166[6/15/2016 1:32:26 AM] Sejuani: They were initially unbanned when Diana took over, but was promptly rebanned for the same issues.
5167[6/15/2016 1:33:39 AM] Iculas: It took them less than a week to get rebanned and I believe their exact words when I approached them were "get over yourself you cunt" or something along those lines.
5168[6/15/2016 1:34:17 AM] cold ravioli: oh, right, that's ringing some bells