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213:10 - Rook Sha: yo
313:10 - Garry: this is gonna be horrible
413:10 - Rook Sha: deadly weapon says you think artifacts can cure cancer, can you explain?
513:11 - Garry: sure
613:11 - Rook Sha: cool, go ahead.
713:11 - Garry: I don't have artifacts that cure cancer
813:11 - Rook Sha: okay, your private is just retarded then
913:11 - Garry: I have healing artifacts that will help my character not die or be disabled once a surgeon removes cancer tumours.
1013:12 - Garry: I went through it with Taylor and he OKayed it
1113:12 - Rook Sha: you know if there's any cancer left, it'll speed up remission too?
1213:12 - Rook Sha: yeah that's fine
1313:12 - Rook Sha: that makes sense
1413:12 - Garry: it has no reason to speed up remission as it has no reason to produce cancer growth
1513:12 - Rook Sha: it regenerates tissue
1613:12 - Rook Sha: it is indiscriminate
1713:12 - Garry: that's a tough claim, either way, I explained to you, it was okayed by high command, thanks for concern.
1813:12 - Rook Sha: if there are any cancer cells left, it would promote the regrowth of the cancer
1913:14 - Rook Sha: how is that a tough claim
2013:14 - Rook Sha: A unique organic artifact with properties just as unique. Somehow it increases the body's overall recovery rate.
2113:14 - Garry: because if it would just 'regenerate tissue' without rhyme or reason, it would literally produce cancer.
2213:14 - Rook Sha: overall
2313:15 - Rook Sha: the cancer is part of the body
2413:15 - Rook Sha: cancer is literally produced by the body
2513:15 - Rook Sha: the firefly also says it speeds up regneeration of tissue and organs
2613:15 - Garry: I'm gonna be frank with you, it regenerates tissue and organs in specific manner, preserving their function
2713:15 - Rook Sha: regeneration of tissue, existing tissue
2813:15 - Rook Sha: so if any cancer still exists
2913:16 - Rook Sha: it will regenerate the cancer
3013:16 - Garry: it doesnt just 'connect' pieces, nor does it do whatever it wants
3113:16 - Rook Sha: speeding up remission
3213:16 - Garry: the artifacts literally create HEALTHY tissue.
3313:16 - Rook Sha: it doesn't say that
3413:16 - Garry: look, come back when you have a medical diploma. I do.
3513:16 - Rook Sha: lol
3613:16 - Rook Sha: no you do not
3713:16 - Garry: yeah I do.
3813:16 - Rook Sha: LOL
3913:17 - Garry: Look, I really appreciate your efforts at making sure my SRP experience is as close to the real thing as possible, but maybe you should focus on doing that for the entire community and not just me.
4013:39 - Rook Sha: I do
4113:39 - Rook Sha: it's jus that you seem to get alot more things mixed up than most people
4213:39 - Garry: Not really.
4313:40 - Garry: It's just you, for some reason, have an unyielding desire to wedge yourself into resolving my character's fatal flaw that involves numerous members of the community on rather interesting roleplay
4413:41 - Garry: to have huge arguments with these people
4513:41 - Garry: only to come over and say
4613:41 - Garry: "well if a doctor fucks up, you die :^)"
4713:41 - Rook Sha: i was agreeing with you on the most part, my problem was with your retarded private taking what you said out of context
4813:41 - Rook Sha: which is why i asked you waht it does, we only ahve a slight disagreement on whether it would regenerate any remaining cancer cells
4913:41 - Rook Sha: which is circumstancial at best
5013:42 - Garry: to even assume that cancer remains is a pointless detail that wont ever come up in roleplay
5113:42 - Rook Sha: i dont just deal with you, you just dont care about anyone but yourself so you dont see anythign else I do
5213:42 - Garry: were you the guy that chewed off Hades' legs in anomaly?
5313:43 - Rook Sha: yeah, cause i asked taylor for confirmation on what the rad suit is, how powerful the anomaly is, and how effective the artifacts would be at mitigating that
5413:43 - Rook Sha: and me, him and osprey agreed that was what would happen
5513:43 - Rook Sha: even if you walked into that in a SEVA, it would pretty quick burn through it
5613:44 - Garry: No idea why you came up with that, as CoP SEVA is almost completely immune to acid.
5713:44 - Rook Sha: anomalous protection or not, the whole pond had become highly acidic so the artifacts don't do as much as if it was straight from the fruit punch itself
5813:44 - Rook Sha: that's a lie
5913:44 - Rook Sha: i played the game not too long ago
6013:44 - Rook Sha: every anomaly still damages you significantly
6113:44 - Rook Sha: they just help you not die
6213:45 - Rook Sha: plus, in the games you have plot armour, we've discussed that we don't want stalkers waltzing through every hazard like they're gods, it's the zone, shit is dangerous
6313:45 - Rook Sha: this isn't straight up the games
6413:46 - Rook Sha: we interperet the games for RP, considering what is logical and what makes sense for the sake of RP aswell. most stalkers find a way to get artifacts without directly walking in, as a regular human being would try to do
6513:46 - Rook Sha: lemme waltz into a pit of acid in a radiation suit, that makes sense
6613:46 - Rook Sha: he got burns on his legs, not enough to cause serious shock and kill him
6713:47 - Garry: one of the upgrade paths in CoP culminates with SEVA literally not receiving damage from anomalies, although player does.
6813:48 - Garry: that's why I strategically dropped 'almost'
6913:48 - Rook Sha: if you can provide some proof of that cause i dont remember that being the case at all
7013:49 - Rook Sha: and you're talking about a specialist, top tier upgraded seva
7113:49 - Rook Sha: not a regular rad suit
7213:49 - Garry: you put up a claim that even SEVA would be unable to survive acid
7313:49 - Rook Sha: so you're point is that you need to have literally the best suit for it, upgraded out the ass to the max for it to do that
7413:49 - Rook Sha: a regular seva
7513:49 - Rook Sha: yes
7613:49 - Rook Sha: absolutely
7713:49 - Garry: considering SEVA's high stats even in default setting, there's no reason to assum ethat
7813:49 - Rook Sha: are you now disputing that?
7913:49 - Rook Sha: YOU JUST SAID YOURSELF
8013:49 - Rook Sha: you need to upgrade it to the max
8113:49 - Rook Sha: for it to not do so
8213:49 - Garry: Why do you read what you want to hear?
8313:50 - Rook Sha: you're honestly so thick it astounds me
8413:50 - Garry: I extrapolate that since upgraded SEVA is literally imprevious to damage from anomalies, it's safe to assume that it wont just melt off in anomaly even without upgrades.
8513:50 - Garry: A person who cant into logic, brilliant.
8613:50 - Garry: http://ru.stalker.wikia.com/wiki/Комбинезон_«СЕВА»
8713:51 - Garry: Не изнашивается, если прокачать на прочность и лазить только по аномалиям (ЗП).
8813:51 - Rook Sha: no, you just have no sense of scale. if you need to upgrade the suit to take no damage from the anomalies, that is because it canno
8913:51 - Rook Sha: if it could already do so
9013:51 - Rook Sha: why upgrade it further
9113:51 - Rook Sha: it is already perfect
9213:51 - Garry: let me put it blunt
9313:51 - Garry: do you seriously think that it's just 0 to 1 switch, no scaling?
9413:51 - Rook Sha: no, you're just not getting your point across
9513:51 - Garry: Sad
9613:51 - Garry: my point i
9713:51 - Garry: is
9813:52 - Rook Sha: im not saying, a radiation suit is the same as a seva
9913:52 - Garry: SEVA can sustain acid anomalies for a good while
10013:52 - Garry: it just sustains wear and tear
10113:52 - Rook Sha: im saying, you're not fucking iron man
10213:52 - Garry: it doesnt just FAIL
10313:52 - Rook Sha: SEVA's are noted for how fragile they are, any damage basically ruins them
10413:52 - Garry: that is another headcanon that has no basis in reality
10513:52 - Rook Sha: yes, it provides better protection against anomalies than other suits
10613:53 - Rook Sha: but it's not impervious
10713:53 - Garry: that suit would be pointless if it provided such protection only for a few moments
10813:53 - Rook Sha: i didnt say a few moments
10913:53 - Rook Sha: Hades didnt have a SEVA anyway
11013:53 - Rook Sha: so why care
11113:53 - Garry: 13:43 - Rook Sha: even if you walked into that in a SEVA, it would pretty quick burn through it
11213:53 - Rook Sha: pretty quick
11313:53 - Rook Sha: yes
11413:53 - Garry: well that has no basis in reality
11513:53 - Garry: or lore
11613:53 - Rook Sha: okay, how do you quantify pretty quick
11713:54 - Garry: under a minute
11813:54 - Rook Sha: as compared to
11913:54 - Garry: At least five minutes for SEVA to completely fial
12013:54 - Rook Sha: i was saying pretty quick as compared to some admins who think you sustain no damage from anomalies if you have a SEVA on
12113:55 - Garry: Considering you dont stick around them for more than a few moments, you should sustain no damage to yourself
12213:55 - Garry: but some damage to suit, prompting frequent repairs
12313:55 - Rook Sha: depends on the anomaly
12413:56 - Garry: You know, this is one of the major pitfalls of admin team's design
12513:57 - Garry: Always test your ideas with a simple question
12613:57 - Garry: "Then why bother with it?"
12713:57 - Garry: What does SEVA specifically bring to the table to warrant Tier 4 price tag, ungodly upgrade prices and lack of durability?
12813:57 - Garry: a few extra seconds in anomaly?
12913:57 - Garry: WHY BOTHER CLIMBING INTO IT AT ALL THEN?
13013:58 - Rook Sha: to ephasise stalkers making good use of their time or utilising smarter solutions to get artifacts
13113:58 - Garry: If so, they wouldn't bother with SEVA.
13213:58 - Garry: as such, SEVA itself is badly designed 'trap option'.
13313:59 - Garry: Since you can get an NBC suit for cheaper if you're just gonna do the whole tricky shit by pulling artifacts with magical artifact kits.
13413:59 - Rook Sha: then why don't you speak to the admin team or something
13513:59 - Garry: Aren't you the admin team
13613:59 - Rook Sha: I am one person
13713:59 - Rook Sha: you could bring it up with several
13814:00 - Garry: Oh, right, last time I did I was threatened with community ban.
13914:00 - Rook Sha: and you wouldn't have brought this up except to bitch about your buddy getting eaten by acid
14014:00 - Rook Sha: and he wasnt even in a SEVA
14114:00 - Rook Sha: you have no sense of tact
14214:00 - Rook Sha: that is why
14314:00 - Garry: True, because I'd have no idea such thing would happen
14414:00 - Rook Sha: why not?
14514:00 - Garry: I cant really talk about things I've no idea exist.
14614:00 - Rook Sha: you dont know acid exists?
14714:01 - Garry: I know it does
14814:01 - Rook Sha: you dont know the radiation suit isn't enclosed?
14914:01 - Garry: I also would just assume the seva suit works like in the games.
15014:01 - Rook Sha: we're talking about hades rad suit
15114:01 - Rook Sha: atleast thats what you brough up initially
15214:01 - Garry: Hades radsuit would just need his pants tucked into boots
15314:01 - Rook Sha: how does that seal it
15414:01 - Garry: ask any fisherman how does that seal boot from water, acid or not
15514:02 - Garry: they'll tell you, because water has nowhere to go.
15614:02 - Rook Sha: also, the radiation suit isn't rubberised, the acid just goes through the fabric
15714:02 - Garry: it is rubberized according to suit lore thread
15814:02 - Garry: in fact
15914:02 - Garry: D O U B LE rubberized
16014:02 - Rook Sha: The jumpsuit itself consists of a battle dress uniform (colour and camo pattern varies from faction to faction) reinforced with armoured plates protecting the limbs of the user. They are typically worn with armoured, heavy boots and thick gloves.
16114:02 - Rook Sha: no it isn't
16214:02 - Rook Sha: it's a BDU
16314:03 - Garry: Often called the "radsuit" by stalkers, this hulking set of heavy armor is actually a third-generation Exoskeleton that has had the servomotors and some of the armor removed. The suit was originally invented by Ukrainian engineers in factories before the project was scrapped due to its unreasonably high price. Nonetheless, it remains a very effective combination of a heavy-grade military bullet-proof vest, heavy dual-layer rubberized fabric suit and titanium limb plating. Provides excellent protection from all types of gunfire. Offers reasonable protection against radiation, and anomalies. Very rare.
16414:03 - Garry: http://forums.ethereal-networks.com/index.php?/topic/168-canon-suits/
16514:03 - Garry: >eavy dual-layer rubberized fabric suit
16614:03 - Rook Sha: so you're ok with this headcanon
16714:04 - Rook Sha: but earlier that was your argument against something in the server
16814:04 - Rook Sha: and we're changing that
16914:04 - Garry: because this is a copy from the official lore
17014:04 - Garry: as exosuit in the games has 50% acid protection
17114:04 - Rook Sha: as was what i was saying earlier
17214:04 - Rook Sha: 9:52 AM - Garry: that is another headcanon that has no basis in reality
17314:04 - Garry: Are you saying radsuit being protected from anomalies has no basis in reality?
17414:04 - Garry: I'll drop your suit stats, i wonder how you'll feel then
17514:05 - Rook Sha: we're not talking about anomalies, we were talking about whether or not it's rubberised
17614:05 - Garry: you somehow manage to ignore both games canon and server canon
17714:05 - Garry: and then claim you're right, what is this?
17814:05 - Rook Sha: as do you
17914:05 - Rook Sha: im using your logic against you
18014:05 - Garry: Oh no, I provide quotes from wikis
18114:05 - Garry: do you? Nope
18214:05 - Garry: I provide quotes from lore threads
18314:05 - Garry: do you? nope
18414:05 - Garry: So, thanks, exosuit is rubberized, doubly so
18514:05 - Garry: and so is radsuit
18614:06 - Garry: You have sources, digest them
18714:06 - Rook Sha: when you're such a massive asshole, it makes it hard to listen to anything you say, you know that right?
18814:06 - Garry: I brought evidence to the table, that's all there it is to it.
18914:07 - Rook Sha: no it isn't
19014:07 - Rook Sha: the way you talk to people
19114:07 - Garry: if literal evidence stops being valid just because I presented it in a way you dislike, this dialogue has no point.
19214:07 - Rook Sha: i doubt your motivations also
19314:07 - Rook Sha: you will let anything go by that benefits you, whether you agree with it or not
19414:07 - Rook Sha: it's only when something affects you or your buds negatively
19514:07 - Rook Sha: that you will say something
19614:08 - Garry: Ah, but I have evidence to the contrary.
19714:08 - Garry: Remember Monolith SEVA thing?
19814:08 - Garry: I argued that monolith should have both sealed SEVA
19914:08 - Garry: AND anomaly suppression device
20014:08 - Garry: instead of this neutered version
20114:08 - Garry: Why? Monolith are forever my enemies.
20214:08 - Garry: Why would I bother with it if I am so self-centered?
20314:08 - Rook Sha: You wanted people to fight in Goose's event
20414:08 - Rook Sha: because you like being able to win
20514:09 - Garry: But see
20614:09 - Garry: I argued to make Monolith SEVA better
20714:09 - Garry: how would that help me win?
20814:09 - Rook Sha: you argued to make the monolith be able to be alive within the conditions of the event
20914:09 - Rook Sha: otherwise, there would be no one to fight at all
21014:09 - Garry: Which is good, right?
21114:09 - Garry: free 30k
21214:09 - Garry: Don't forget
21314:09 - Rook Sha: no, because you care more about having people you can win against
21414:09 - Garry: this is the second time I revisit this argument
21514:10 - Rook Sha: you'll buff them so they can exist
21614:10 - Rook Sha: and nerf them so you can beat them
21714:10 - Garry: I created the thread on SEVAs in January, Rook. Before any event regarding them was in the air
21814:10 - Garry: again, calling for buff.
21914:10 - Garry: see? I provide literal evidence that I am not the person you think I am
22014:10 - Garry: and you just sit here and keep saying how shit I am as a person.
22114:10 - Garry: literal recorded, timestamped evidence on the forums.
22214:10 - Rook Sha: it's hard to assume you're not when you do alot of shitty looking stuff
22314:10 - Rook Sha: on that case, yeah you're right
22414:11 - Garry: Truth is, I might be abrasive, but I am not malicious.
22514:11 - Rook Sha: I doubt that, considering British was your best pal
22614:11 - Garry: So?
22714:11 - Rook Sha: considering what I see you do
22814:12 - Garry: Ah, again, you do realize that British and I are different?
22914:12 - Garry: For one, British actively cooperated with Rick Vice during his run of Duty.
23014:12 - Garry: He was abrasive too, but never malicious.
23114:12 - Rook Sha: British was a dickhead. He wasnt abrasive he was a cunt
23214:12 - Garry: That makes me different from British in that I so far had no reason to cooperate with Swoop.
23314:12 - Garry: I might reconsider though, it's a good idea.
23414:13 - Rook Sha: it's not your place to do so
23514:13 - Rook Sha: you're not faction lead
23614:13 - Garry: See, you begin off-loading sins of other people on me just because there's a connection.
23714:13 - Garry: I am a faction co-lead, entrusted by faction lead to do so.
23814:13 - Rook Sha: Then god help us
23914:13 - Garry: You're clearly biased, no amount of evidence presented to you even budged your perception of me.
24014:14 - Rook Sha: earlier is a good example
24114:14 - Garry: I literally say I will cooperate with other faction lead on bettering our encounters
24214:14 - Garry: and the best you provide is 'god help us all'
24314:14 - Rook Sha: swoop and one of his boys attacked you and your buddy
24414:14 - Rook Sha: he PK'd his own boy
24514:14 - Rook Sha: and NLR'd yours
24614:14 - Rook Sha: you bitched and whinged about your boy getting NLR'd
24714:14 - Rook Sha: you bitched and whinged about the gear and shit to zippy and osprey
24814:14 - Rook Sha: and wasted half of their day with your shit
24914:14 - Rook Sha: then you get a deathsquad of 5 to attack 2 freedomers
25014:15 - Garry: Well, for one, I ended up resolving it all with zippy and osprey, demonstrating evidence of my side of the story.
25114:15 - Garry: And for two, they did also bitch and moan about it.
25214:15 - Garry: So, we're pretty much equal in that regard.