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1425 [00:48:45] <DrRabbitfoot> Manufacturing Unemployment Drops To Record Low Of 2.6 Percent Under Trump
1525 [00:48:47] <DrRabbitfoot> https://nationaleconomicseditorial.com/2017/12/08/manufacturing-unemployment-rate-record-low/
1625 [00:49:28] <Catch_22> what did he did he do? force more manufacturing offshore?
1725 [00:49:40] <Baimei> he is a magician
1825 [00:50:40] <Catch_22> he has made the leaders of industry really nervous, they are relocating offshore at an ever increasing rate, the longer he is in office
1925 [00:50:54] <Baimei> everything he touches turns to gold
2025 [00:52:22] <Catch_22> no thats' rust from the acid rain.
2125 [00:52:34] <Catch_22> more of an orange
2225 [00:53:02] <Baimei> except for the white eye bags
2325 [00:53:14] <Catch_22> heh
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3325 [01:24:03] <fkt> i'd sure like some of his presidental cocaine..but that shit is amazing
3425 [01:24:17] <fkt> but=bet
3525 [01:24:32] <Baimei> lol
3625 [01:24:54] <Baimei> is that why he has dentures
3725 [01:25:45] <fkt> haha probably
3825 [01:26:26] <Baimei> that jerussalem speech was hilarious when his teeth were falling out
3925 [01:26:43] <Baimei> and they attributed it to having a dry throat
4025 [01:27:00] <fkt> is that what it was?  looked like cocaine impairment
4125 [01:27:15] <Baimei> oh, maybe
4225 [01:27:20] <Baimei> lol
4325 [01:27:37] <Baimei> it did sound like he was impaired
4425 [01:27:56] <fkt> yeah it numbs their entire face and makes them slur
4525 [01:28:22] <fkt> they lose some control over the tongue and lips and mouth and yeah
4625 [01:28:32] <juan-> please sign this petition: Give asylum to African Americans https://www.change.org/p/african-governments-please-give-asylum-to-african-americans?recruiter=836579095
4725 [01:30:46] <Baimei> fkt: i didnt know that
4825 [01:30:56] <Baimei> most of the other signs of use do match
4925 [01:31:01] <Baimei> except weight loss
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5125 [01:32:14] <Baimei> financial problems?   ha
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5425 [01:33:26] <fkt> Baimei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob3CNCnuHHM
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5625 [01:34:10] <fkt> lol
5725 [01:36:33] <fkt> https://www.addictions.com/cocaine/  tell me these symptoms don't match :P
5825 [01:37:40] <AviationMan> the big slur was probably a clump of cocaine dropping from the back of his nose to the back of donald throat
5925 [01:38:03] <AviationMan> big slur, tiny hands
6025 [01:38:17] <fkt> sluts with tiny hands
6125 [01:38:20] <fkt> i mean slurs
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6325 [01:38:35] <Baimei> lol
6425 [01:38:40] <Baimei> we have a match
6525 [01:38:58] <@CowTippa> Hillary Clinton Supporters Are Apparently Plotting To Falsely Accuse Bernie Sanders Of Sexual Assault - https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/apparent-hillary-clinton-supporters-are-plotting-to-falsely-accuse-bernie-sanders-of-sexual-assault/
6625 [01:39:09] <@CowTippa> "So who�s ready to be an Anonymous caller to say Bernie grabbed my waist during a selfie? All we need is 8 and we can push him out. "
6725 [01:39:26] <Baimei> thats the new method
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7032 [01:47:50] Oakmill is going to claim that Kellyanne Conway molested him.
7125 [01:48:22] <Baimei> the verbal handjob
7225 [01:48:41] <Oakmill> GAWD, the thought of that happening to me is revulsive.
7325 [01:48:48] <Baimei> she had her way with poor oakmill
7425 [01:49:14] <Oakmill> Looking at that seahag, an erection would be near impossible.
7525 [01:49:49] <Baimei> she reminds me of tulsa doom, turning into the snake
7625 [01:50:23] <fkt> haha it would be comparable to getting sexually assaulted by the cryptkeeper from tales from the crypt
7725 [01:50:40] <Baimei> hehe
7825 [01:50:45] <fkt> that skeleton thing with the hanging flesh
7925 [01:50:52] <Baimei> right
8025 [01:51:04] <Baimei> republicans think thats hot
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8225 [01:53:12] <dioTe> hi Alaeddin
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8525 [01:55:06] <fkt> Baimei: whoa. https://imgur.com/a/PCwp6
8625 [01:55:13] <Pler> Moore accuser: Expert confirmed his 1977 yearbook signature  
8725 [01:55:14] <Pler> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/moore-accuser-expert-confirmed-his-1977-yearbook-signature/2017/12/08/134e89f2-dc70-11e7-a241-0848315642d0_story.html?utm_term=.8177781e7663
8825 [01:55:17] <Pler> lol
8925 [01:55:37] <Baimei> ha
9025 [01:56:04] <yarkenberg> Pler!! finally a voice of reason!!
9125 [01:56:06] <Pler> he denied knowing her. lol.
9225 [01:56:08] <Baimei> fkt: good one
9325 [01:56:29] <Baimei> he denied knowing any of them
9425 [01:56:42] <Baimei> there is another signature, on a graduation card
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9825 [02:08:23] <@PlagueRat> She has admitted to writing next to his inscription and signature.  She put the date and place.   Trumperrhoids are trying to pretend that invalidates the whole thing...  "She faked it".    No,  back in 1977 she put additional information on the year book.
9925 [02:08:49] <@PlagueRat> That is not "faking it".
10025 [02:09:55] <@swin> the signature is his.. get over it guys
10125 [02:10:12] <@swin> same for the christmas card from another he dated..
10225 [02:10:49] <@PlagueRat> when apples are red /  they are ready for plucking /   when girls are 14 / they are ready for 
10325 [02:10:56] <@PlagueRat> Roy Moore
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10625 [02:12:12] <fkt> no wonder he's staunchly pro-life ... he needs more children
10725 [02:12:22] <Baimei> somebody needs to write  "the ballad of roy moore"
10825 [02:13:09] <mazdak> roy moore belongs in prison
10925 [02:13:16] <@PlagueRat> He was really excited when his wife had kids ...  no no no... not that.  No, he was looking forward to the baysitters...
11025 [02:13:25] <@PlagueRat> babysitters
11125 [02:13:31] <@swin> heh
11225 [02:13:42] <@PlagueRat> now he has grandkids.  MORE babysitters
11325 [02:14:51] <Baimei> he probably just advertises for them
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11525 [02:14:53] <fkt> roy: "if i close my eyes it's not incest"
11625 [02:15:03] <Baimei> when they show up, its just roy moore
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11825 [02:15:48] <@swin> i wonder how many times his daughters heard you can't go out/date until you're older.. or no, you can't see him, he's too old for you..
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12025 [02:16:41] <Baimei> lol
12125 [02:16:41] <@swin> wonder if he ever wanted to fix one of his buddies up with his daughters.. seeing as how it's all proper
12225 [02:16:43] <fkt> i wonder how many times his daughters heard "you can have your slumber party at our house"
12325 [02:17:24] <Baimei> i get a kick out of that blonde who is his spokesperson
12425 [02:19:43] <@PlagueRat> Roy "if they are old enough to bleed, they are old enough to butcher"  Moore
12525 [02:20:13] <AviationMan> In alabama, you have to own a pickup truck before you can have sex outside the family.
12625 [02:20:14] <dry> Roy "Grass on the field" Moore?
12725 [02:20:24] <Baimei> lol
12825 [02:20:42] <fkt> damn..haha
12925 [02:20:43] <Baimei> just think, roy can be the republican's mascot
13025 [02:20:49] <fkt> oh he is
13125 [02:20:59] <Baimei> poster boy for family values
13225 [02:21:01] <AviationMan> Alabama, the USA's 3rd world country
13325 [02:21:06] <Baimei> lol
13425 [02:21:30] <dry> not pedobear?
13525 [02:21:31] <Baimei> they are too stupid to even be ashamed
13625 [02:21:36] <@PlagueRat> How did Roy Moore's wife know her daughter had started having her periods ?
13725 [02:21:57] <@PlagueRat> Roy's dick tasted funny...
13825 [02:22:09] <fkt> lol
13925 [02:22:15] <dry> damn
14025 [02:22:18] <fkt> yeah.
14125 [02:22:26] <AviationMan> That was in his Montgomery speech on slavery days
14225 [02:22:33] <Baimei> plague: did you see how roy first saw his wife?
14325 [02:22:55] <AviationMan> when she was 15 in the marching band?
14425 [02:22:59] <@CowTippa> Anti-Trump conservatives place $500,000 ad buy against Roy Moore - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/08/anti-trump-conservatives-place-500000-ad-buy-against-roy-moore/
14525 [02:23:12] <Baimei> aviation: at a dance recital when she was 15
14625 [02:23:18] <dry> caught her skipping class?
14725 [02:23:35] <Baimei> he was struck by her appearance
14825 [02:23:35] <AviationMan> I heard it on TV... just didn't care to remember... SUCCESS!
14925 [02:23:51] <AviationMan> He tells all his 15 years olds that
15025 [02:24:06] <Baimei> lol
15125 [02:24:17] <dry> so, anyone here familiar with Alabama enough to say whether this is just how Alabama does?
15225 [02:24:30] <dry> Michael Vick defense?
15325 [02:24:33] <Baimei> well, they elected sessions
15425 [02:24:47] <@swin> heh, repub congressman offered aide 5 million to carry his child/ he resigned today
15525 [02:24:51] <Baimei> as their confederate senator
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15725 [02:25:40] <AviationMan> Yeah, he had to resign, Meuller's Deutsche Bank investigation cut off his funding of $5M
15825 [02:26:03] <Baimei> hehe
15925 [02:26:25] <AviationMan> So ladies, when you're hired to work for a GOP congressman... you really don't know what the job entails.
16025 [02:26:38] <mazdak> entails blowjobs?
16125 [02:26:52] <Baimei> i got halfway through the new book.... Collusion
16225 [02:27:07] <Baimei> i had no idea that manafort was this bad
16325 [02:27:17] <AviationMan> Donald Trump wanted the $5M so much he tried to work a deal for the repellant congressman to meet Ivanka
16425 [02:27:22] <Baimei> its like a movie plot
16525 [02:28:31] <AviationMan> GOP Family values, "Employees, CONGRATULATIONS... you're having my bady"
16625 [02:29:24] <AviationMan> Call HR and they'll ask if you grew up in Alabama first... if you did... ITS LEGAL.
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16925 [02:33:41] <@CowTippa> Republicans have refused to renew health insurance for 9 million kids while trying to elect a child molester to the U.S. Senate.   Did an 8-year old beat Trump in golf or something?
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17125 [02:34:59] <@swin> roy moore on drive by shootings.. they are acting like animals because we taught them they come from animals...
17225 [02:35:05] <Baimei> i think they want to kill people
17325 [02:35:32] <Baimei> cutting off people's medical care
17425 [02:36:00] <AviationMan> The money spent on those 9M kids were more than Donald Trump's real entire wealth (negative value) and so he doesn't want 9M kids to be richer than him.
17525 [02:37:15] <AviationMan> swin: Alabama State Motto: "We act like animals because we were taught that we come from animals."
17625 [02:38:58] <Baimei> animals act better than roy moore
17725 [02:39:40] <@PlagueRat> Paul Ryan has announced that the goals in 2018 will include cutting medicare, medicade and other entitlements.  He says he regrets doing it,  but it has to be done to balance the budget.     OH REALLY?  I thought these tax cuts were going to stimulate growth and the increased tax revenue would balance the budget.  You know... Laffer curve, trickle down, all that shit?
17825 [02:39:53] <Baimei> he is one of their most disgusting examples
17925 [02:39:58] <AviationMan> so 9M kids with 46 dollars in wealth given too them, according to the republican political view, should use that combined money to buy 3 Senators who could ramrod any bill they write.
18025 [02:40:45] <AviationMan> The rich can't enjoy themselves unless everyone gives them more Moore Moore.
18125 [02:40:59] <Baimei> i wonder which billionaires owns the most senators
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18325 [02:41:11] <@PlagueRat> Koch Brothers
18425 [02:41:24] <AviationMan> Too bad the Republican congress stole everyone's work pensions decades ago...
18525 [02:41:43] <AviationMan> Satan, Putin, *THEN* Koch
18625 [02:42:17] <Baimei> hehe
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18825 [02:47:59] <AviationMan> aka the Trinity
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19125 [02:52:31] <AviationMan> Nice: Hope Hicks met with Robert Mueller today
19225 [02:54:52] <AviationMan> i guess we'll find out if her job description includes being a surrogate mom for Donald Trump.
19325 [02:55:07] <AviationMan> All the republicans are doing it...
19425 [02:57:09] <juan_> she was probably assaulted by robert mueller
19532 [02:57:19] AviationMan finds a wealth of irony reading BING search pages on surrogate mother services... "Getting started is easy" <-- Isn't that the *best* part?
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19725 [02:58:31] <AviationMan> Example:
19825 [02:58:32] <AviationMan>  Attn: Be A Surrogate Mom
19925 [02:58:34] <AviationMan> Leading TX Agency-Earn Up To $40K. Getting Started Is Easy-Apply Now!
20025 [02:58:35] <AviationMan> Since day one our team has been working with passion ...
20125 [03:01:10] <AviationMan> The Republican strategy: Take away all income from the poor and middle class, then Devos invites them to join her Surrogate Mom service in high school or middle school, and the GOP congressman can have more babies than all the miniorities that scare them so.
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20625 [03:08:16] <AviationMan> (1) Corporations are People, (2) Corporation Windfall due to drastic tax cuts, (3) Corporations buy surrogate mothers so they can have family workers they don't have to pay.
20725 [03:09:09] <AviationMan> Watch for corporate advertising equating their employees as one big happy family.... the future.
20825 [03:10:45] <@rosco> LOL LOL Six women have accused a federal appeals court judge of sexual misconduct, according to the Washington Post. Alex Kozinski serves on the Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit and was formerly that court's chief judge.
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21025 [03:11:04] <Baimei> Aviation:  Inside Donald Trump�s One-Stop Parties: Attendees Recall Cocaine and Very Young Models
21125 [03:11:13] <@rosco> BTW.... .why is a douchebag like Nick Haley the ambassadrix to anything?
21225 [03:11:22] <Baimei> https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-donald-trumps-one-stop-parties-attendees-recall-cocaine-and-very-young-models
21325 [03:11:53] <@rosco> We need a word that will combine inusfferable+prick/cunt+stupid
21425 [03:11:57] <Baimei> rosco: typical of all trump appointees
21525 [03:12:07] <@rosco> she really is brain dead.
21625 [03:12:20] <@rosco> is she a fundamentalist?
21725 [03:12:21] <Baimei> compared to betsy devos?
21825 [03:12:30] <@rosco> i think she's dumber the devos.
21925 [03:13:00] <@rosco> he reaction on the Jerusalem thing is deeper than moronic.
22025 [03:13:51] <@rosco> B T W     great article in counter punch on the New York Slime...and why people who read it are dumber than Nicky Haley.
22125 [03:13:52] <Baimei> Nikki Haley's conversion to Christianity from Sikhism is causing a stir in the primary race for governor of South Carolina.
22225 [03:14:03] <@rosco> she was a mooslim?
22325 [03:14:32] <@rosco> funnny   she doesn't look moooslim.
22425 [03:14:35] <Baimei> sikh
22525 [03:14:44] <Baimei> she is methodist now
22625 [03:14:46] <@rosco> sikh.... oh... the Indian stuff
22725 [03:14:52] <Baimei> right
22825 [03:15:16] <@rosco> methodist?  you mean she developped a fondness for cakes and tuna casserole?
22925 [03:15:45] <Baimei> They combine teachings of Hindu bhakti (devotion to a personal god) and Muslim mysticism (direct communion with the divine in Sufism).
23025 [03:15:51] <@rosco> who the fucking fuck would convert to such a milk toast religion like methodism
23125 [03:16:18] <Baimei> she should have gone with a snake handler pentecostal cult
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23325 [03:16:33] <@rosco> yeah.... then she could really be an asset at the UN
23425 [03:16:39] <Baimei> hehe
23525 [03:16:52] <Baimei> actually, trump doesnt like the UN, so she is perfect
23625 [03:17:09] <@rosco> it's really amazing how utterly dumbed down murka has become
23725 [03:17:10] <@PlagueRat> rosco - at least methodists don't ask you to handle snakes or speak in tongues
23825 [03:17:29] <Baimei> yes, everything is designed to appease the moron group
23925 [03:17:31] <@rosco> their cakes and cookies are usually good too....  but it still a brain dead cult
24025 [03:18:06] <@rosco> Baimei... but they themselves REALLY ARE morons.
24125 [03:18:06] <Baimei> and the jesus crackers
24225 [03:18:09] <@PlagueRat> However, lets not forget that Methodists started in YERP...
24325 [03:18:14] <Baimei> of course
24425 [03:18:15] <@rosco> totally ignorant + stupid people
24525 [03:18:31] <@rosco> YURP... not really..  the started in London.
24625 [03:18:42] <Baimei> her husband is methodist, thats why the choice
24725 [03:18:56] <@PlagueRat> In fact, pretty much every one of the bigger Christian religions started in Yerp,  other than Mormons and Quakers...    
24825 [03:18:59] <@rosco> so now she's become a zionist robot
24925 [03:19:12] <@PlagueRat> London is Yerpeon 
25025 [03:19:20] <Baimei> hehe
25125 [03:19:41] <@PlagueRat> Amish - yerp
25225 [03:19:46] <@PlagueRat> Roman Catholics - yerp
25325 [03:19:55] <@PlagueRat> Lutherans - not Minnesota, fer sure
25425 [03:20:50] <@PlagueRat> Baptists, Methodists, Puritans ... yerp yerp yerp
25525 [03:21:25] <Baimei> puritans are one of the worst
25625 [03:21:32] <@PlagueRat> Presbyterians... not Yerp.  SCOTTISH and proud of it.   :)
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25825 [03:22:17] <@PlagueRat> Bastards in yerp killed off the better religions...  Norse, Greek, Slavic...     Hail Bogosh !!!
25925 [03:22:38] <@rosco> YURP
26025 [03:22:40] <@PlagueRat> Murkans just inherited the mess the yerpeons created
26125 [03:22:40] <Baimei> rosco: oh, i just read what she said about israel in the un
26225 [03:22:52] <@rosco> Weener coined the word and it's spelled YURP.
26325 [03:22:54] <Baimei> thats horrible
26425 [03:23:16] <@PlagueRat> rosco - you say tomayto,  I say tomahto... lets not cook dinner together.
26525 [03:23:18] <@rosco> Baimei .... it's like ugh+gag+gasp+shock.
26625 [03:23:31] <@rosco> I say Tomahto.
26725 [03:23:35] <Baimei> it goes with trump's action on jerusalem
26825 [03:23:46] <@PlagueRat> I say 'mater !!!
26925 [03:24:17] <@PlagueRat> Betty Loo,  I wants me a bacon, lettus and mater sammich
27025 [03:24:21] <Baimei> trump really does not care about consequences for his actions
27125 [03:26:02] <@rosco> Does Nick (Brain Dead) Haley  realise that Israel exists on account of UN recognition?
27225 [03:26:11] <@rosco> Has she even heard of Ralph Bunch?
27325 [03:26:57] <Baimei> i am sure she has no idea
27425 [03:27:46] <@rosco> i wonder what it's like to be a living Howdy Doody....
27525 [03:27:51] <Baimei> lol
27625 [03:27:57] <@rosco> :))
27725 [03:29:20] <Baimei> trumps worst appointee that i have seen was a woman who was supposed to hold a scientific position, and she was a complete moron
27825 [03:29:43] <Baimei> i cant remember her name but i watched the interview
27925 [03:33:21] <Baimei> watched a great vid on youtube from Chelsea.... sara huckabee's makeup tips
28025 [03:33:49] <Baimei> she applies the black eye makeup with a paint roller
28125 [03:33:54] <dioTe> yes - but that was in 1947-48, not today's UN
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28525 [03:35:11] <@rosco> Counterpunch has a scathing article about hte new york slimes.
28625 [03:36:40] <dry> new york slimes...  that's clever
28725 [03:37:40] <Baimei> i dont like the idea of attacking the media which are going after this ultra corrupt trump regime
28825 [03:37:56] <Baimei> save it for when there is no trump, anymore
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29025 [03:38:45] <@rosco> Baimei ???  the new york slime is never worth supporting... ever.   read the article.
29125 [03:39:18] <@rosco> https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/08/we-the-sheeple-the-blind-reading-the-blind/
29225 [03:40:43] <@rosco> the new york slime had an article today about demorats shutting down gubmint (budget issue) over the Dreamers issue.... well that's nice... but why not an article or editorial about shutting down the gubmint over the tax bill?
29325 [03:40:46] <Baimei> the times is one of the main sources which is pointing out trumps lies
29425 [03:40:57] <Viridium> ahh read one opinion piece in counter punch ... and its NY Slime  LOL
29525 [03:41:03] <Baimei> and the washington post
29625 [03:41:12] <@rosco> this just goes to show what pieces of shit the demorats are.   they SHOULD be blackmailing the GOP over the tax bill... .not over dreamers.
29725 [03:41:25] <Viridium> NYT is considered the paper of record
29825 [03:41:30] <@rosco> Viridium  actually dude... i've been calling it the New York Slime for years.
29925 [03:41:35] <Viridium> Baimei exactly
30025 [03:41:50] <ZShurp> rosco, exactly.  they suck, the GOP sucks, I hope NK nukes Washington
30125 [03:41:51] <Baimei> leave the criticism to the ultra right
30225 [03:41:52] <@rosco> you just haven't been paying attnetion... because your head is so totally buried in Hillary's arm pit
30325 [03:41:53] <Viridium> rosco ahh then you're just citing stuff that affirms your beliefs 
30425 [03:42:00] <dry> rosco, says more about you then the NYT
30525 [03:42:09] <@rosco> Zshurp   what a lovely sentiment :)
30625 [03:42:25] <@rosco> dry  oh... i am perc'ed to the roote.....  
30725 [03:42:28] <Baimei> none of us like hillary
30825 [03:42:31] <ZShurp> Seriously, how many Americans would actually be upset if DC grew a mushroom cloud?
30932 [03:42:36] rosco is mortally wounded by dry's wit.
31025 [03:42:51] <dry> rosco, thanks for letting me know
31125 [03:43:10] <Baimei> but she is looking like a goddess compared to this clown circus
31225 [03:43:12] <dry> i was worried these remarks were being wasted
31325 [03:43:18] <Baimei> lol
31425 [03:43:25] <@rosco> Zhurp i would continue to do what i am going to do now... buy peanut butter.
31525 [03:43:38] <Viridium> All news sources have their faults ...  i'm not saying NYT is infalible ... but other sources seldom have the kinda investigative journalism NYT does... its mostly populist material
31625 [03:43:41] <@rosco> Hillary can never look like a goddess.
31725 [03:43:45] <ZShurp> enjoy your peanut butter
31825 [03:43:50] <@rosco> danke
31925 [03:44:11] <Baimei> a turd would look great compared to trump
32025 [03:44:11] <Viridium> fluff .. and  and if i were less charitible ... speculation and innuendoes passed on as fact
32125 [03:44:29] <dry> rosco, question...  after DC goes up in smoke and a Chinese nuclear sub shows up along the coasts...  who is coordinating the response?
32225 [03:44:50] <dry> does the peanut butter have the answer?
32325 [03:45:27] <dry> ...
32425 [03:45:59] <Viridium> problem with american democracy ... and democracy in general .. is that ppl rather take a blog or an opinion piece more seriously than genuine investigative journalism
32525 [03:46:00] <dry> ok, I guess that's why Washington is needed
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32725 [03:46:34] <ZShurp> yes, the problem with democracy is that the people are idiots
32825 [03:46:34] <Viridium> ppl vote based on what they know .. and what they know is informed by the things they read
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33025 [03:47:03] <ZShurp> and the problem with every other form of government is that it gives too much power to those who would serve themselves rather than the people
33125 [03:47:13] <Viridium> unfortunately .... ppl dont seem to care about news accuracy ... its all about affirming their preexisiting beliefs and biases
33225 [03:47:13] <mazdak> exactly!
33325 [03:47:43] <Baimei> take fox, for example
33425 [03:47:44] <Baimei> lol
33525 [03:47:59] <Baimei> the alternate world news
33625 [03:48:19] <mazdak> daoist daily news!
33725 [03:48:30] <Baimei> thats the best
33825 [03:48:32] <mazdak> lao tzo reporting
33925 [03:48:45] <Viridium> take trump supporters ... no matter how many lies pass through those fake teeth... they still support im ... cuz  the deep state, swamp and the bogeyman doesnt want to let trump be trump
34025 [03:49:20] <landy78> lol    CNN armed Trump with new ammunition. Sure enough, he launched another �fake news� attack https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/12/08/cnn-just-armed-trump-with-new-ammunition-to-launch-another-fake-news-attack/?utm_term=.da35c0640d7e
34125 [03:50:11] <Baimei> trump being trump is a worst case scenario
34225 [03:51:20] <landy78> he's predictable in the sense that anything incriminating coming out of mainstream media is automatically "fake news"
34325 [03:51:44] <Viridium> trump is a disaster  both for the us and the world ... he's hollowing out govt depts and  slashing down national parks ... supproting white supremacists... creating doubts about us credibility abroad etc etc
34425 [03:51:46] <Baimei> yes, it has to be fake because he is flawless
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34625 [03:52:18] <@PlagueRat> DeVos' charter schools can dump STEM and teach creationism, fundamentalism, and nonsense
34725 [03:52:21] <Baimei> viridium: and every day, he keeps perpetrating some new horror
34825 [03:52:36] <Baimei> ruining everything good about the government
34925 [03:52:46] <Viridium> yes ....  new lows everytday .. guranteed
35025 [03:53:27] <Baimei> the government does actually do a lot of good
35125 [03:53:41] <Baimei> the part he should cut is his own office
35225 [03:54:23] <Baimei> the diplomatic corps is gutted
35325 [03:54:47] <Baimei> he doesnt consider relationships with other countries to be important
35425 [03:54:56] <mazdak> america first!
35525 [03:54:58] <Baimei> other than russia and israel, of course
35625 [03:55:40] <Viridium> even appointed that randroid libertard  Mulvaney to the consumenr financial services protection bureaus ....  same sort of sabotage scott pruit has done in the EPA
35725 [03:55:53] <Viridium> bureau
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35925 [03:56:29] <Viridium> yes .. only russia and israel matter in the trump er
36025 [03:56:29] <mazdak> 2007 Memorandum of Understanding between the US and Israel that allocates $30 billion in aid for the Jewish state over 10 years <--- wow
36125 [03:56:35] <Viridium> era
36225 [03:56:54] <mazdak> america just handed over 30 billion to israel
36325 [03:56:54] <landy78> deny and deflect -- President Donald Trump responded to chants of "lock her up" by citing the "rigged system," while speaking at a rally in Pensacola, Florida, on Friday night. 
36425 [03:57:16] <Viridium> putin rigged it for him towin
36525 [03:57:21] <Baimei> lol
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36725 [03:57:31] <Baimei> its rigged alright.  he got that right
36825 [03:57:42] <landy78> he should be grateful for the "rigged system"; it got him into office
36925 [03:58:15] <Viridium> of course ...  with the same inverted logic .... its hillary that colluded with russia
37025 [03:58:25] <dry> i kinda hope this investigation drags out a bit
37125 [03:58:38] <P-1^> they do that...they take reality and turn it upside down
37225 [03:58:42] <dry> i want everyone to enjoy the achievements of the Bush admin
37325 [03:58:49] <dry> damn
37425 [03:58:52] <dry> Trump admin
37525 [03:59:19] <dry> lets see how the tax cuts work out
37625 [03:59:25] <fkt> it would have been nice if it had been a bit closer to the next election cycle though.  people seem to have amnesia
37725 [03:59:36] <guerro> dry where in canada are you
37825 [03:59:50] <mazdak> nunavut?
37925 [04:00:02] <dry> Mississauga
38025 [04:00:09] <Baimei> turning it around like that is what putin does, also
38125 [04:00:10] <dry> suburb of Toronto
38225 [04:00:12] <mazdak> sauga!
38325 [04:00:40] <Baimei> accuse the other guy of doing the same thing which you are doing, which is illegal
38425 [04:00:50] <dry> we like our highways slow, and our public transit shitty
38525 [04:00:56] <AviationMan> take trump supporters ... PLEASE!!!
38625 [04:00:58] <Baimei> lol
38725 [04:01:07] <mazdak> 401 is most busy highway in canada and top in n.america
38825 [04:01:18] <dry> mazdak, my daily drive
38925 [04:01:20] <edenaus> Dont blame Putin for the shithole America is, take some responsibility for your own mess
39025 [04:01:22] <mazdak> 407 toll is fairly fast though
39125 [04:01:27] <dry> $$$
39225 [04:01:34] <Baimei> i blame putin for trump
39325 [04:01:37] <mazdak> you drive on the 401 for work in sauga..are you crazy
39425 [04:01:48] <Viridium> trump boasts he has done more in 10 months than any other presidents .....  in the sense he has created a disasterous and potentially dangerous situation for the us..... its absolutely true.... its sick irony that he uses  MAGA
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39625 [04:01:59] <dry> I drive from Mississauga to uptown Toronto on the 401
39725 [04:02:07] <dry> 427 to 401
39825 [04:02:11] <mazdak> how long does it take
39925 [04:02:16] <Baimei> he has done more damage in 10 months than any president
40025 [04:02:21] <landy78> edenaus i agree with that     it's not putin's fault the US got a treacherous clown
40125 [04:02:22] <fkt> https://i.redd.it/12k101hfcq201.png
40225 [04:02:30] <fkt> the new look of senate
40325 [04:02:32] <dry> about 35 minutes
40425 [04:02:36] <mazdak> not bad
40525 [04:02:40] <Baimei> landy: he was actually putins project
40625 [04:02:47] <Baimei> they cultivated him
40725 [04:02:57] <dry> my wife has a job in Markham and she takes the 407
40825 [04:02:59] <landy78> "Look, it's being proven we have a rigged system," Trump said to the crowd of supporters
40925 [04:03:01] <AviationMan> Trump has done more for our enemy Russian in 10 months than all previous president combined
41025 [04:03:04] <Baimei> and funded him
41125 [04:03:05] <dry> it's like $130 / month
41225 [04:03:09] <mazdak> i pass by sauga downtown sometimes on way into toronto
41325 [04:03:09] <edenaus> Baimai you have no evidence unfortunately A confabulation based on a few facebook adds. Putin must be a propaganda genius if he can swing an election where billions of dollars are spent on advertising
41425 [04:03:13] <landy78> what kind of president, in any country, would say such a thing
41525 [04:03:22] <mazdak> 407 is fairly fast for sure
41625 [04:03:35] <Baimei> edenaus: they started with him in 1984
41725 [04:03:36] <edenaus> ust admit it your sow ear was never going to be a silk purse
41825 [04:03:39] <landy78> can you imagine putin whining about a rigged system in russia?
41925 [04:03:39] <Viridium> AviationMan he gave Putin what he wanted .... fragmentation of NATO 
42025 [04:03:40] <landy78> no
42125 [04:03:49] <dry> mazdak, what do you consider Mississauga downtown?
42225 [04:03:54] <Baimei> viridium: and chaos in the usa
42325 [04:04:00] <mazdak> near squareone
42425 [04:04:06] <@rosco> I have a question... maybe one of you brains can answer it.
42525 [04:04:07] <AviationMan> Baimei: That article about Trump in 1995++ sounded like a Russian spy operation, mega honey trap to get leverage on a lot of rich and powerful Americans.
42625 [04:04:11] <dry> so you're on the 403?
42725 [04:04:16] <Viridium> yes ... He even supports a child molestor to the senate
42825 [04:04:17] <mazdak> sometimes
42925 [04:04:19] <fkt> it's a trick
43032 [04:04:20] rosco has got his p-nut butter.
43125 [04:04:25] <Baimei> aviation: yes, it was
43225 [04:04:50] <dry> mazdak, coming from...  Milton?
43325 [04:04:51] <Baimei> he went to one of their hotels, where they have all the cameras, to catch those "special" memories
43425 [04:05:05] <@rosco> Don't the GOP need the Demorats in order to pass the continuing budget resolution?
43532 [04:05:06] Viridium has always suspects Trump was a russian asset ... in fact i'd be real surprised he wasnt one
43625 [04:05:07] <mazdak> no
43725 [04:05:18] <Baimei> the hotels were run by russian intelligence
43825 [04:05:25] <dry> oh well
43925 [04:05:42] <AviationMan> Trump may have been a Tool of Russian that long ago.. The soviet union collapsed in the early 1990s, there was the last soviet regime coup attempt in 1992.
44025 [04:05:43] <guerro> AviationMan: what 1995 article
44125 [04:05:46] <dry> i quit my job this past Thur so my commute will be getting easier
44225 [04:05:55] <mazdak> everyone is moving out of toronto the suburbs in the west end GTA
44325 [04:05:57] <dry> no more 401
44425 [04:06:14] <Baimei> when trump came back from one of those trips, he was majorly anti nato
44525 [04:06:16] <mazdak> all the politicians talk transit but not much happens
44625 [04:06:24] <dry> agreed
44725 [04:06:25] <AviationMan> https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-donald-trumps-one-stop-parties-attendees-recall-cocaine-and-very-young-models
44825 [04:06:25] <Baimei> which made no sense at the time
44925 [04:06:32] <mazdak> union station i was in recently and its massively under construction
45025 [04:06:40] <dry> as always
45125 [04:06:42] <Baimei> aviation: thats a good one
45225 [04:06:43] <Baimei> hehe
45325 [04:06:45] <AviationMan> It sounds like it was written during the primaries
45425 [04:06:54] <mazdak> i applied to the TTC once :)
45525 [04:07:11] <dry> i hear the hiring process is brutal
45625 [04:07:13] <edenaus> Is there an ugly old escort service for democrats?
45725 [04:07:19] <Baimei> aviation: including underage females
45825 [04:07:31] <mazdak> im sure its very competitive
45925 [04:07:44] <AviationMan> bettter for blackmailing rich elite Americans
46025 [04:08:09] <mazdak> so what do you think of hazel dry
46125 [04:08:17] <AviationMan> The web for this power play may have been rooted in contact Trump set up for the post-KGB way back then.
46225 [04:08:20] <mazdak> hazel mclanan or whatever
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46425 [04:08:33] <dry> mazdak, one of the interviews is they drop you off in some random location with a token and you have to figure out how to get to some location within a specified amount of time
46525 [04:08:43] <mazdak> hah really
46625 [04:08:58] <dry> mazdak, she's worn out her stay
46725 [04:09:03] <mazdak> indeed she has
46825 [04:09:18] <landy78> whos hazel mclanan?
46925 [04:09:24] <dry> google it
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47125 [04:09:31] <mazdak> very long term mayer of missisauga ontario
47225 [04:09:56] <dry> the shit with her son...
47325 [04:10:01] <mazdak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazel_McCallion <-- sexy
47425 [04:10:14] <mazdak> Hazel McCallion, CM (n�e Journeaux; born February 14, 1921) is a Canadian politician and businesswoman who served as the mayor of Mississauga, Ontario, from 1978 until 2014
47525 [04:10:33] <dry> I mean...  I appreciate the work she's put in
47625 [04:10:38] <mazdak> McCallion was first elected in November 1978, and is the longest-serving mayor in the city's history, having served for 36 years at the time of her retirement in 2014.[1
47725 [04:10:43] <landy78> wow  born in 1921
47825 [04:10:45] <dry> but it's time for change
47925 [04:10:51] <mazdak> shes 96
48025 [04:10:58] <landy78> and she's a mayor? lol
48125 [04:11:07] <dry> she's skeletor
48225 [04:11:12] <guerro> canada really is its own little world
48325 [04:11:14] <landy78> omg   canada didn't fall too far away from the US
48425 [04:11:17] <mazdak> my ex was from streetsville landy
48525 [04:11:29] <guerro> doesn't register in the minds of most americans (although, not much does tbh)
48625 [04:11:31] <mazdak> what u think of streetville
48725 [04:11:47] <mazdak> yes canadian politics flies under american radar
48825 [04:11:49] <dry> nice enough, but isolated and on the decline
48925 [04:11:49] <landy78> guerro they've also had some meth-head mayor
49025 [04:11:54] <landy78> forgot his name
49125 [04:11:58] <mazdak> rob ford
49225 [04:12:04] <landy78> yea rob ford
49325 [04:12:06] <mazdak> he was fat stupid and an adrug addict
49425 [04:12:18] <mazdak> just born into a wealthy politically connected family
49525 [04:12:20] <dry> mazdak, you ever go to rib eye jacks?
49625 [04:12:30] <mazdak> ive been but not often
49725 [04:12:39] <dry> they're all closed down
49825 [04:12:40] <mazdak> my uncle went to law school with john tory
49925 [04:12:53] <mazdak> he knew tory at osgoode law school
50025 [04:13:21] <mazdak> torys family where from generations of established lawyers
50125 [04:13:22] <tzipsaway> https://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/11/30/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-002732?slide=0
50225 [04:14:00] <mazdak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Ford <--
50325 [04:14:29] <dry> he was a conservative shining star
50425 [04:14:52] <edenaus> The reality is far simpler than that, no need to entrap anyone. US businessmen are invested in Russia. Then an unelected group decides to reignite the Grand Game Russians  wont allow foreigners to buy out their country. So They try the usual regime change gambit, breakaway republics but fail. so then you get sanctions and us businessmen with investments in russia get caught up in it. Are 
50525 [04:14:52] <edenaus> they not allowed to alter the idiotic foreign policy that is turning russia into an enemy. The endless propaganda demonising of their leaders.No need for pee tapes
50625 [04:14:58] <mazdak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7Jy312JCUQ <-- hilarious remix of rob ford saying shit
50725 [04:15:10] <mazdak> rob ford posed a right wing populist
50825 [04:15:11] <dry> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqUhMm9V5Yg
50925 [04:15:33] <dry> rob ford doing patois
51025 [04:15:35] <mazdak> yeah dry seen that video...funny
51125 [04:15:41] <mazdak> bumbaclot!
51225 [04:16:02] <mazdak> remember OCAP in toronto? john clarke
51325 [04:16:22] <mazdak> they stormed queens park in a massive riot back in 2000
51425 [04:16:26] <landy78> edenaus have you read the steele dossier? his informants insisted that trump was being groomed by putin's inner circles
51525 [04:16:27] <dry> yeppers
51625 [04:16:36] <mazdak> i was there for that and met clarke hah
51725 [04:16:45] <mazdak> man that was crazy
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51925 [04:17:09] <landy78> it didn't sound plausible at first, but considering the KGB modus operandi, this could be the case
52025 [04:17:22] <mazdak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jKn3HJ8go8 <---
52125 [04:17:30] <Baimei> landy: i am reading  Collusion right now.  its a new book.  very interesting
52225 [04:17:52] <landy78> Baimei who's the author?
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52425 [04:18:14] <Baimei> Luke Harding
52525 [04:18:22] <mazdak> dry what you think of port credit
52625 [04:18:27] <landy78> thanks
52725 [04:18:27] <Baimei> published in november
52825 [04:18:47] <Baimei> there is a lot of detail on flynn and manafort which i didnt know
52925 [04:19:12] <Baimei> manafort is absolutely horrible
53025 [04:20:02] <dry> mazdak, seems nice enough
53125 [04:20:07] <Baimei> his specialty was getting dictators elected by cultivating existing divisions in the population, concentrating on "the unwashed masses"
53225 [04:20:19] <Baimei> he only dealt with dictators, actually
53325 [04:20:40] <Red_Don> we should all be praying north korea can build a nuke that can reach dc
53425 [04:20:50] <dry> mazdak, lots of condos now...  but I like all the bars / restaurants / etc..
53525 [04:21:03] <landy78> Baimei yea  that's how russia does its crap; cultimvate existing divisions, etc.
53625 [04:21:07] <mazdak> hurontario street etc
53725 [04:21:12] <dry> right
53825 [04:21:19] <Red_Don> corruption ad bribery are legal in the good ole usa
53925 [04:21:26] <mazdak> lots of good indian restaurants
54025 [04:21:27] <AviationMan> Manafort skillfully got Roy Moore and Jeff Sessions elected to office in Alabama by promising the unwashed masses that they'd bring back slavery and the good old days.
54125 [04:21:30] <Red_Don> supreme court says so
54225 [04:21:31] <AviationMan> ;)
54325 [04:21:51] <Baimei> he was paid 10 million by putin to cultivate those things in europe and the usa
54425 [04:22:04] <dry> mazdak, i still go Mimico for Indian
54525 [04:22:12] <landy78> russia hardly meddles only in USA, britain or germany. read what it did in montenegro and moldova
54625 [04:22:16] <mazdak> mimico is a go train station 
54725 [04:22:24] <dry> but there's are a couple mexican places in port credit
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54925 [04:22:31] <dry> pretty good
55025 [04:22:36] <mazdak> all i know of mimico is the go train stop
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55225 [04:22:44] <dry> mazdak, everest
55325 [04:22:49] <Baimei> landy: the leader from montenegro is the one that trump pushed out of the way at the conference
55425 [04:23:03] <mazdak> hmm
55525 [04:23:15] <landy78> Michael Flynn promised to 'rip up' sanctions against Russia, says informant -- this is over the top
55625 [04:23:30] <landy78> Baimei lol true, i remember that
55725 [04:23:40] <Baimei> landy: he texted russia during the inauguration about it!
55825 [04:23:49] <Viridium> yes ... that was quite something ... if obama did that ... the right wing would demand his head on a platter .. and wont shut up about it for months
55925 [04:23:57] <Viridium> .. months .. if not years
56025 [04:24:03] <guerro> baimei where are you getting this stuff
56125 [04:24:10] <dry> there used to be a british style curry place on Queen and Islington
56225 [04:24:14] <dry> closed now
56325 [04:24:18] <Baimei> guerro: the new book
56425 [04:24:22] <Baimei> Collusion
56525 [04:24:24] <mazdak> dry i remember seeing rob and doug ford books at indigo chapters
56625 [04:24:25] <Viridium> they gave him grief for bowing  to the japanese emperor
56725 [04:24:30] <Baimei> it has all the poop!!
56825 [04:24:45] <guerro> jeffrey tobin?
56925 [04:24:49] <mazdak> hmm
57025 [04:24:56] <dry> yea, doug doesn't have a chance
57125 [04:25:09] <mazdak> doug is pretty dim
57225 [04:25:12] <Red_Don> But but but he said he’s going to bring back my coal mining job. Even though I already have black lung And can hardly breathe or walk I know he’s going to keep his promise. He always keeps his promises. I’m so looking forward to the day when I can wheel back down there in that dark Dusty Whole.
57325 [04:25:12] <Baimei> guerro: luke harding
57425 [04:25:22] <dry> mazdak, no charisma
57525 [04:25:34] <Baimei> there is also quite a bit about steele
57625 [04:25:36] <mazdak> yup
57725 [04:25:41] <Baimei> and the dossier
57825 [04:25:56] <Baimei> which of course trump calls fake
57925 [04:25:57] <Red_Don> is this canuck hour
58025 [04:26:00] <Viridium> "Coal made america great ... so to make america great again ... more coal"
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58325 [04:26:09] <mazdak> i think justin trudeau is a joke..hes a fucking high school teacher with a famous dad
58425 [04:26:12] <dry> it's always cannuck hour
58525 [04:26:21] <dry> mazdak, yea
58625 [04:26:24] <dry> 1 term
58725 [04:26:30] <mazdak> high school teachers arnt qualified to run the nation
58825 [04:26:36] <landy78> mazdak    well at least he's not a disgrace, like you know who
58925 [04:26:42] <mazdak> yes
59025 [04:26:46] <textstring> HILLARY?
59125 [04:26:49] <Baimei> mazdak: how about a reality tv star
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59325 [04:27:02] <dry> i voted for Trudeau...  mostly because I didn't want more Harper
59425 [04:27:03] <textstring> HAI YARK
59525 [04:27:17] <landy78> dry that is a good enough reason.
59625 [04:27:17] <yarkenberg> yo text! <3
59725 [04:27:21] <mazdak> pierre trudeau was at least highly educated and accomplished...a lawyer with a phd and a prof and academic...his son justin is just dumb and pretty like his hippy mom
59825 [04:27:26] <Red_Don> To the women of Alabama, vote for Roy Moore. Your daughters, nieces, granddaughters, and all underage Alabama females will be safe if you send Roy to Washington DC. What do you care what he does to underage females in the DC metro area. 
59925 [04:27:44] <mazdak> i voted NDP 
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60125 [04:27:53] <Viridium> ivanka trump has eyes for justin trudeau .. so maybe  donald dotard wont nuke it .. MAGA
60225 [04:27:54] <textstring> There’s something great about a credibly accused pedophile being the face of the Pro-Life movement.
60325 [04:28:03] <Baimei> lol
60425 [04:28:12] <mazdak> alot of politicians of all stripes are ethically compromised
60525 [04:28:17] <Red_Don> https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-beverly-nelson-young_us_5a2af93ee4b0a290f050a005?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
60625 [04:28:26] <mazdak> power can attract sociopaths
60725 [04:28:49] <guerro> oh man there was another trump rally tonight?
60825 [04:28:54] <Baimei> or even psychopaths
60925 [04:29:02] <mazdak> sure baimei
61025 [04:29:09] <Viridium> Nelson admitted the signature is not moore's .... but the writing is
61125 [04:29:10] <Baimei> guerro: yes
61225 [04:29:20] <Baimei> in the carolinas, i think
61325 [04:29:21] <textstring> I like how Moore promises to restore Constitutionality but was kicked from the Alabama state supreme court for refusing to follow what the federal US supreme court determined was constitutional.
61425 [04:29:24] <dry> mazdak, I'm curious to see how conservatives campaign this go round
61525 [04:29:29] <textstring> I mean..it’s code for “Bible,” but still.
61625 [04:29:41] <mazdak> they have a new federal leader..someone fairly young forget his name
61725 [04:30:01] <textstring> Wrong, Viridium 
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61925 [04:30:02] <textstring> Dude.
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62125 [04:30:07] <dry> Andrew Sheer
62225 [04:30:17] <textstring> You got that completely wrong.  She said the signature was his but she annotated the date and place beneath.
62325 [04:30:30] <dry> Scheer
62425 [04:30:30] <mazdak> yes thats him
62525 [04:30:30] <@swin> the signature is moore's.. the date/location isn't
62625 [04:30:35] <textstring> I won’t argue about it, but that’s what she said.
62725 [04:30:58] <textstring> How did you get that completely backwards, Viridium ?
62832 [04:31:03] Viridium points out Trump claimed to be the "Law & Order" candidate .... kinda ironic when he doesnt know what the law is ... nor cares ... his expectations and actions are that of an autocrat ... demanding personal loyalty from govt officials
62925 [04:31:14] <mazdak> i met the head of the federal ndp jameet singh..before he was party leader though..just an mp
63025 [04:31:31] <Viridium> swin, oh? hmm ic
63125 [04:31:33] <textstring> lol. I watched his Pensacola speech.
63225 [04:31:37] <dry> Scheer graduated from Immaculata High School, and then studied history and politics at the University of Ottawa. While attending university, Scheer worked in the correspondence department of the Office of the Leader of the Opposition (OLO). He moved to Regina after meeting his future wife Jill Ryan at university and finished his BA at the University of Regina. Instead of returning to Ottawa, Scheer worked at Shenher Insurance before joining 
63325 [04:31:38] <dry> the constituency office of a Canadian Alliance MP, Larry Spencer in Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre. Scheer was working waiter before running for Parliament.[1]
63425 [04:31:46] <mazdak> he didnt even campaign on any social democratic ideals..just feel good empty rhetoric
63525 [04:31:58] <yarkenberg> textstring semi serious question - If i was in alabama i cant imagine voting for morre but i am not so to a certain extent - i cant give two squirts of piss of the mess - why do you think it has become such a national hoopla? why does it seem we all care that much?
63625 [04:32:03] <dry> so instead of a high school drama teacher...  we get a waiter
63725 [04:32:04] <textstring> It wasn’t as bat shit as I wanted, but my favorite part was when he implied that foreign countries rigged the “Lottery Immigration” system to send the US their worst people.
63825 [04:32:15] <mazdak> he was flashy and a dandy and could attract media attention so he got party leadership..sad
63925 [04:32:25] <guerro> yarkenberg: two words - Dark Money
64025 [04:32:35] <mazdak> yes the ndp had a pub manager elected mp in quebec
64125 [04:32:40] <textstring> Because their tribal white evangelical fucks that think they’re defending Christian identity, yarkenberg 
64225 [04:33:08] <textstring> It’s like this existential cultural/spirirtual war to them, but they’re really just socially ignorant fucking hick retards, yarkenberg 
64325 [04:33:13] <textstring> they're
64425 [04:33:14] <Viridium> yes  Dark Money ...   maybe thats why there is an upsurge in bitcoins and other crypto-currency
64525 [04:33:19] <dry> drama teacher versus waiter versus pub manager
64625 [04:33:22] <nelliebrown> dry thousands say what ive been saying. not hundreds of thousands. hundreds of thousands have affected children. i misspoke.
64725 [04:33:27] <nelliebrown> but certainly way the hell more than the number of Roy Moore accusers
64825 [04:33:31] <yarkenberg> textstring well ya tribalism is over the top these days - but we arent going to sit here and say that side is the only ones are we?
64925 [04:33:31] <mazdak> hmm dry..decisions decisions :)
65025 [04:33:41] <textstring> People in Alabama literally think this is some sort of spiritual test of their faith.
65125 [04:33:50] <textstring> I am.
65225 [04:33:54] <textstring> Those people are fucking nuts.
65325 [04:33:55] <dry> mazdak, exciting people
65425 [04:33:59] <yarkenberg> text and back to my question - why do we care about alabama election?
65525 [04:34:03] <textstring> They’re irrational animals.
65625 [04:34:07] <textstring> Fucking crazy.
65725 [04:34:13] <guerro> it's a referendum on conservatism
65825 [04:34:15] <Baimei> i liked the defense offered by moore's spokesperson.   "many people are not accusing roy moore of having molested them"
65925 [04:34:19] <guerro> or what's become the laughing stock of it
66025 [04:34:21] <mazdak> they are consevative blue collar populists
66125 [04:34:22] <Viridium> alabama is more third world than most third world countries
66225 [04:34:25] <guerro> that's why, yark
66325 [04:34:25] <textstring> The depravity and denial involved is just jaw droppingly hypocritical, yarkenberg 
66425 [04:34:34] <textstring> It’s fucking amazing how powerful tribalism and self delusion is.
66525 [04:34:39] <textstring> That’s why.
66625 [04:34:50] <yarkenberg> guerro - ehhh that takes some special magic imho
66725 [04:34:53] <dry> mazdak, i'm sure they are nice enough
66825 [04:34:54] <mazdak> politics is based on tribal identity...tribe party a tribe party b
66925 [04:35:05] <textstring> It’s interesting and important because it conculsively proves these people are not interested in the rational presentation of facts or arguments.
67025 [04:35:07] <mazdak> its like a sports game
67125 [04:35:12] <textstring> Just tribal identity and religious appeals.
67225 [04:35:19] <guerro> nobody likes patent hypocrits to their purported ideals, and there's nothing like persecutorial complexes by people in a bubble to make them have a siege mentality on their loyalties and double down harder
67325 [04:35:26] <Viridium> Baimei LOL i saw anderson cooper talking to  whats her name .. janer porter ....   the woman was dodging and weaving allover the place
67425 [04:35:29] <textstring> A lot of the country finds that level backwards ass 3rd world tribalism fucking shocking.
67525 [04:35:33] <Viridium> *janet
67625 [04:35:40] <textstring> I do, at least.
67725 [04:35:41] <Baimei> viridium: she is the one who did that
67825 [04:35:41] <mazdak> tribal identity and religion are great ways to manipulate ignorant masses politically textstring
67925 [04:35:56] <textstring> It’s just…amazing in Alabama.
68025 [04:35:58] <textstring> imho
68125 [04:36:00] <yarkenberg> textstring  ok  - and i find tribalism revolting much of the problems these days - part  of me sort says - let them do it and screw themselves and we should clean that crap out of our camp
68225 [04:36:04] <textstring> I can’t believe how fucking dumb it all is.
68325 [04:36:07] <guerro> yarkenberg 2017 has been all about that special magic
68425 [04:36:22] <Baimei> its like  saying he is accused of murdering somebody, but there are plenty of people whom he hasnt murdered
68525 [04:36:25] <Viridium> She's not from alabama ... but she's defending moore .... denial, obfuscation, distraction etc etc ... the usual bag of tricks
68625 [04:36:37] <mazdak> its ironic that as the world becomes more globalized and internationalized...tribal nationalism is rising in reaction
68725 [04:36:44] <textstring> I don’t want to get into the weeds, but we’re talking an entire state here, yarkenberg. Not a college or Internet based youth movement.
68825 [04:36:51] <guerro> yarkenberg you can't "clean out" Dark Money, esp the way it's being deployed
68925 [04:36:52] <textstring> This is the core Southern GOP.
69025 [04:36:54] <Viridium> maybe that sort of logic works on alabamains
69125 [04:36:59] <textstring> That we’re talking about.  Trump’s base.
69225 [04:37:15] <nelliebrown> while brian ross, who gets paid  huge sums simply to get the news right, can get away with screwing up, ,while doctors can get away with , oops, poisoning a generation , some ppl don't get to ever be wrong
69325 [04:37:31] <mazdak> nellie broken record one trick pony
69425 [04:37:38] <textstring> I just can’t believe how fucking dumb the arguments that Alabamanian GOPers make is either.
69525 [04:37:39] <mazdak> you and your doctors 
69625 [04:37:47] <textstring> I mean…you would have to be fucking retarded.
69725 [04:37:51] <textstring> And I think they are.
69825 [04:37:59] <Baimei> alabama must be a special kind of hell hole
69925 [04:38:00] <dry> mazdak, i will say...  even though I don't vote conservative usually...  I don't doubt at all that conservatives still want what they think is best for Canada
70025 [04:38:00] <mazdak> ever get tired of your irc spiel nellie
70125 [04:38:09] <textstring> I didn’t think people could be that fucking dumb, yarkenberg.  I’m amazed by it.
70232 [04:38:18] Viridium notes Billy Buch has come out to contradict Donald's claim that the voice in the tape wasnt his.... there areother witnesses too
70325 [04:38:19] <Baimei> mazdak: lol
70425 [04:38:22] <mazdak> well dry all politicians claim to want and know thats best for the nation
70525 [04:38:22] <Viridium> *Bush
70625 [04:38:23] <yarkenberg>  guerro each one of us can personally reject tribalist notions when someone tries to foist them upon us - we can each personally peak out against it - we can highlight it and hoipefully shame the assholes that want to engage in it to the point they find a better way to think
70725 [04:38:29] <dry> mazdak, they do
70825 [04:38:34] <dry> and I believe them
70925 [04:38:35] <textstring> I don’t. What’s my tribe, yarkenberg ?
71025 [04:38:35] <nelliebrown> genocide is perfectly acceptable. why? Because the people who speak of it are  ridiculed
71125 [04:38:38] <textstring> You tell me.
71225 [04:38:46] <Baimei> viridium: i seem to recall that there were seven people inside that bus
71325 [04:38:51] <dry> I didn't mind Harper
71425 [04:38:52] <Pler> nelliebrown - ..have you been drinking?
71525 [04:38:53] <guerro> yarkenberg but politics isn't about what people may do personally. 
71625 [04:39:09] <mazdak> harper was better than trump sure
71725 [04:39:15] <dry> I think Harper was doing what he thought was best
71825 [04:39:17] <nelliebrown> pler have u been sniffing glue?
71925 [04:39:30] <yarkenberg> text i didnt say you personally - i really dont know you that well and from what i have seen you seem to embrace your individuality enough that you may not fall for taht crap
72025 [04:39:33] <mazdak> pler is an anarchist punk...he may in fact sniff glue
72125 [04:39:38] <Pler> ?
72225 [04:39:41] <Pler> lol
72325 [04:39:46] <textstring> I ideally just try to be rational, yarkenberg 
72425 [04:39:54] <Pler> i'm heroin bob.
72525 [04:40:04] <textstring> Tribalism seems like an alien and inherently dangerous and animalistic concept to me.
72625 [04:40:06] <dry> which, even though I disagreed with some of this views... I still knew he was trying to do his best for all Canadians
72725 [04:40:07] <mazdak> what is rational then text..your subjective opinions?
72825 [04:40:22] <mazdak> text its fundamental to many people....
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73025 [04:40:41] <mazdak> you think the unwashed masses are alll multiculturalists?
73125 [04:40:44] <guerro> dry: if you didn't mind Harper, why didn't you want more of him when voting time came?
73225 [04:40:49] <guerro> like you said
73325 [04:40:52] <landy78> dry trudeau does too, it's a good thing you got rid of harper. 
73425 [04:40:56] <yarkenberg> text i agree - thats pretty much what i see from you - agree or disagree with a view you offer i always see you attempting to be well thought about it and know why YOU personally hold the view and it never seems to be "all the kids are doing it"
73525 [04:41:05] <textstring> Trying to ratoinally and critically evaluate social and culture situation and not sand bagging in dogma seems to be flexibly subjective enough to fit the criteria of evolcing rationality based on emergent information to me.
73625 [04:41:06] <dry> guerro, because he wasn't offering anything new in terms of ideas
73725 [04:41:09] <yarkenberg> text again i agree
73825 [04:41:17] <textstring> So just saying “Everything is subjective” is kind of weak ass argument.
73925 [04:41:36] <mazdak> what is rational about your politics over some deplorable text?
74025 [04:41:48] <mazdak> what is rational in politics anyway
74125 [04:41:58] <textstring> I’m not a fucking crypto ethno-supremicist for one thing.
74225 [04:42:11] <textstring> And don’t believe that the entire fucking media is a vast conspiracy against my identity.
74325 [04:42:19] <mazdak> you arnt on team D for deplorable
74425 [04:42:21] <textstring> Or that God has chosen me to make a stand.
74525 [04:42:43] <dry> guerro, my point is that with Canadian politics...  I typically vote liberal(ish) but if another party wins...  I trust they still have Canada's best interests at heart
74625 [04:42:59] <dry> so I'm not too fussed
74725 [04:43:06] <textstring> I don’t feel a sense a “moral superiority.”  I just not fucking stupid and arguments like “it was 30 years ago and the Washington Post reported it” doesn’t hold water in my mind.
74825 [04:43:11] <mazdak> its been said the typical canadian is a liberal
74925 [04:43:24] <yarkenberg> textstring as soon i see something like "republicans iz dumb and ebol" or everyone on the left wants to shackle us in kim jung un uniforms i know i am dealing wioth tribalistic moronish thinking - i dont stay very serious with that sort of crap for very long because it is useless
75025 [04:43:42] <mazdak> text you feel morally superior to the unwashed tribal masses..you are enlightened and they are deluded etc ? :)
75125 [04:43:47] <textstring> I don’t think that I do that.
75225 [04:44:06] <textstring> I think these tribal Alabama fucks are barely above animal level, yes.
75325 [04:44:10] <textstring> They are.
75425 [04:44:12] <textstring> Look at them.
75525 [04:44:16] <mazdak> well they demonize people like you :)
75625 [04:44:29] <textstring> I don’t care about that.  They’re just fucking dumb.
75725 [04:44:29] <mazdak> peoples republic of austin etc
75825 [04:44:32] <textstring> On the face of it.
75925 [04:44:32] <dry> it's moreso about the perception...  I think people that vote for other parties are doing so believing they are doing what's best for Canada
76025 [04:44:33] <juan_> textstring is a satanist
76125 [04:44:39] <landy78> dry i'm curious about the downward trend, is it a particular issue that trudeau has failed on, or a general sense? he was at 60%+ approval not long ago, not he's at 50%
76225 [04:44:42] <dry> and I'm fine with that
76325 [04:44:50] <landy78> not == ow
76425 [04:44:51] <landy78> now
76525 [04:44:53] <yarkenberg> juan he might be - but certainly a nice one
76625 [04:45:04] <mazdak> drty how do you judge good poltical intentions
76725 [04:45:04] <juan_> yarkenberg: that's what counts
76825 [04:45:10] <AviationMan> Alabamans are considered smart for 300 years of imbred generations
76925 [04:45:18] <dry> landy78, personally... I was really upset about his failure to deliver on electoral reform
77025 [04:45:24] <guerro> yarkenberg you claim to not stay with "that thinking" for so long, but 95% of your chat is based on it sadly
77125 [04:45:26] <landy78> i see
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77325 [04:45:40] <AviationMan> Some in their gene pool were cheating
77425 [04:45:41] <Pler> guerro's got a point
77525 [04:45:42] <textstring> That’s the weird thing, I think.
77625 [04:45:45] <guerro> you're drowned in the tit-for-tat politics and reactionairy BS
77725 [04:45:54] <textstring> I don’t think Liberals are trying to seize “Moral Authority."
77825 [04:46:07] <dry> also, I think he over emphasized spending on infrastructure, and we haven't seen any returns
77925 [04:46:08] <textstring> I think it’s just a reaction to… I dunno…sexual assault and child abuse.
78025 [04:46:13] <textstring> And blatant racism.
78125 [04:46:21] <textstring> And xenophobia.
78225 [04:46:28] <textstring> Just these obvious social cancers.
78325 [04:46:34] <mazdak> so text you are classist in that you scorn and disdain the common unwashed masses who dont share your enlightened and cultured liberal multiculturalism :)
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78525 [04:46:39] <yarkenberg> guerro - ehhh what? i said i dont engage seriously with a moron that cant think beyond that - I DID NOT say that i dont find it to be an alarming trend and something i often speak out against - so pardon me if i start snickering a little bit now and then
78625 [04:46:46] <textstring> I mean…I don’t think Rachel Maddow is the next Jim Bakker.
78725 [04:47:00] <guerro> ugh
78825 [04:47:10] <textstring> If by that you mean mouth breathing racists and xenophobes, yes, mazdak 
78925 [04:47:11] <yarkenberg> nahhh but she has good hair it the job
79025 [04:47:11] <guerro> my mistake for hoping you could rise above
79125 [04:47:12] <AviationMan> even thought the were both born female
79225 [04:47:21] <Baimei> jim bakker cracks me up
79325 [04:47:28] <mazdak> but text as a liberal i thought you where for supporting the lower classes
79425 [04:47:34] <Baimei> he is selling those end of the world food kits
79525 [04:47:56] <AviationMan> Heaven snacks
79625 [04:48:02] <textstring> I am. I advocate economic policies that would help them, but those fucks care more about their mouth breathing cultural identity war than reality.
79725 [04:48:08] <Baimei> they are called   "Stayin Alive"
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79925 [04:48:14] <guerro> baimei LOL
80025 [04:48:14] <textstring> And there’s not a god damn thing I can do to persuade them out of that lunacy.
80125 [04:48:18] <dry> there any other Canadians in there that has benefited from infrastructure spending outside of the GTA
80225 [04:48:24] <Baimei> guerro: not kidding!
80325 [04:48:26] <Baimei> lol
80425 [04:48:30] <dry> mazdak and I are biased
80525 [04:48:41] <mazdak> text but most people globally...lower classes are generally more socially and cultural conservative...by scorning them for that..you are dismissing a wide swath of humanity
80625 [04:48:44] <AviationMan> Stayin Alive like his mascara wife didn't?
80725 [04:48:44] <Zeno> textstring I wish Prohibtion would come back
80825 [04:48:48] <Baimei> its like $1400 for a pile of dried food packs
80925 [04:48:51] <Baimei> lol
81025 [04:48:51] <textstring> Doesn’t Canada have actual War Canoes?
81125 [04:48:59] <textstring> Am I just delusional about that?
81225 [04:49:04] <dry> textstring, no idea
81325 [04:49:06] <AviationMan> A 50 year supply of Doritos
81425 [04:49:19] <yarkenberg> Zeno!!! finally a voice of reason!!!...........and this is one of the few times i mean that wisecrack!
81525 [04:49:21] <textstring> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_canoe
81625 [04:49:24] <mazdak> ive used a canoe in an canadian lake
81725 [04:49:36] <dry> i have a couple of canoes
81832 [04:49:37] Zeno jams a handful of Cheetos down AviationMan's throat
81925 [04:49:51] <dry> i wouldn't want to stand in them...  let alone go to war
82025 [04:49:57] <textstring> bah. I thought they still had active ones.
82125 [04:49:57] <@PlagueRat> [20:55] <yarkenberg> Pler!! finally a voice of reason!!
82225 [04:50:12] <yarkenberg> kekekekekeke
82325 [04:50:16] <guerro> Zeno: you're just sayin that being bedazzled by Boardwalk Empire too much :P
82425 [04:50:18] <mazdak> jejejejje
82525 [04:50:21] <Zeno> Hi yarkenberg
82625 [04:50:23] <Pler> yarkenberg likes to have a little tantrum everytime I enter. 
82725 [04:50:24] <@PlagueRat> Well, THAT put Zeno in her place
82825 [04:50:29] <yarkenberg> LOL
82925 [04:50:34] <Zeno> It bourbon and catfood tonight!
83025 [04:50:39] <textstring> lol
83125 [04:50:42] <@PlagueRat> Pler - I know the feeling
83225 [04:50:45] <yarkenberg> yay for burbon and catfood!
83325 [04:50:45] <textstring> Sounds like my retirement plan, Zeno 
83425 [04:50:54] <Zeno> guerro   well  just a little bit.  :)
83525 [04:51:10] <textstring> “Sheba and Jim Beam again..."
83625 [04:51:23] <Zeno> Pler  you are way too much of a pacifist
83725 [04:51:32] <Pler> okay
83825 [04:51:32] <textstring> ( lol )
83925 [04:51:37] <Zeno> LOL textstring
84025 [04:51:44] <Pler> I'm blocking up tomorrow..
84125 [04:51:52] <Pler> fascist march/counter-rally.
84225 [04:51:56] <textstring> “It’s like wine.  It all tastes the same after a while.”
84325 [04:51:58] <yarkenberg> Zeno i started on godless but only got about 10 minutes in to the first episode but im planning on doing a few episodes over the weekend - have you watched much of it?
84425 [04:52:01] <Zeno> punching fascist is wimpy
84525 [04:52:22] <Pler> I probably won't punch anyone. 
84625 [04:52:54] <yarkenberg> but but but what if they think something naughty?
84725 [04:53:08] <Zeno> yarkenberg  I watched 1 ep.... and all I could think of was "Deadwod" and "Tom Horn" and how "Godless" sucked  peachpits
84825 [04:53:13] <Pler> the fash are kind of pissed right now though, so we'll see...a bunch of them got doxxed by rose city antifa and eugene antifa.  some got fired.  think in one case it even made national news?
84925 [04:53:19] <textstring> I still highly recommend “3 Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missourri,” specifically for you, Pler.
85025 [04:53:29] <Pler> textstring - ..the movie?
85125 [04:53:29] <Zeno> yarkenberg  Soderburg disappointed me
85225 [04:53:32] <textstring> Yeah.
85325 [04:53:34] <yarkenberg> Zeno nooooooo!!!!! i was so hoping to find a new good series to watch
85425 [04:53:40] <mazdak> pler did you punch ragtime yet?
85525 [04:53:43] <Pler> textstring - ..I've heard good things. 
85625 [04:53:53] <Pler> madak - ..my arms aren't that long
85725 [04:53:58] <Zeno> yarkenberg  too much makeup on the wimmens.
85825 [04:54:05] <mazdak> super stretch fist pler
85925 [04:54:05] <textstring> I can say this without ruining it.  It’s a actually a pretty profound meditation on anger and violence and wickedly funny at the same time.  
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86125 [04:54:14] <yarkenberg> ahhh that kind of ruins the realism doesnt it Zeno?
86225 [04:54:20] <Zeno> yarkenberg   it was all sanitzed and sooooooo  deritavitve and predictable
86325 [04:54:23] <textstring> It’s hard to catch in the theaters, but I still recommend it.
86425 [04:54:28] <Pler> textstring - ..I felt the same way about inglorious basterds
86525 [04:54:28] <yarkenberg> crap
86625 [04:54:38] <textstring> I don’t like that film.
86725 [04:54:46] <textstring> I’m pretty sour on Tarantino though.
86825 [04:54:51] <textstring> So let’s not talk about that.
86925 [04:54:59] <Pler> I was being half facetious. 
87025 [04:55:01] <guerro> textstring: you're right about Three Billboards, I saw that too
87125 [04:55:14] <guerro> worth watching
87225 [04:55:14] <textstring> Suprisingly insightful and good, right, guerro ?
87325 [04:55:17] <Zeno> yarkenberg  yeah Deadwood is gonna be hard to beat.. and Linda Evans wore NO makeup for Tom Horn.. and well .... Steve fuckin' McQeen!  the ultimate anti-her RAWKS
87425 [04:55:27] <textstring> Not what I expected, but very good.
87525 [04:55:28] <Zeno> hero
87625 [04:55:32] <AviationMan> I liked the Kill Bill movie duo, but inglorious bastards was a piece of Big Screen VOMIT
87725 [04:55:39] <textstring> All of that director/writer’s films are great, guerro 
87825 [04:55:44] <textstring> He’s a fucking gem.
87925 [04:55:49] <textstring> MacDonough.
88025 [04:55:54] <mazdak> pler do the cops take pictures and film of people at these antifa/fascist rallies
88125 [04:55:57] <dry> inglorious bastards was awesome
88225 [04:56:09] <dry> same with Django
88325 [04:56:12] <Pler> mazdak - ..yes. and so do facists. 
88425 [04:56:18] <AviationMan> You put a movie with two of those women in it and I'll watch them read the pohone book.
88525 [04:56:22] <dry> same with the Hateful 8
88625 [04:56:28] <yarkenberg> Zeno yes - one of my favorite HBO series - there was some mumbling going around last year about a couple scripts for a movie - milch has wanted for a long time to do a movie to tidy things up and from what ive read - a lot of the cast is for it too
88725 [04:56:32] <textstring> “Pulp Fiction” is his best film, but he co-wrote that.  “Jackie Brown” is his 2nd best film and he didn’t write that screenplay.
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88925 [04:56:35] <mazdak> sounds risky pler
89025 [04:56:42] <Pler> mazdak - ...it is.
89125 [04:56:47] <Zeno> Pler  corporate fscist are the ones that need to be terminated
89225 [04:56:48] <dry> jackie brown was meh
89325 [04:56:52] <mazdak> worth it though in your eyes i guess
89425 [04:56:56] <yarkenberg> Zeno you like westerns?
89525 [04:56:59] <Pler> Zeno - ...I'm *this* close to ignoring you. 
89625 [04:57:07] <dry> how are you going to put jackie brown above reservoir dogs?
89725 [04:57:10] <yarkenberg> eau mai
89825 [04:57:21] <Zeno> yarkenberg  no usually.....  but Deadwood and Tom Horn were great
89925 [04:57:30] <guerro> Zeno: did that get Ralph Nader anywhere? (or his mission)
90025 [04:57:33] <textstring> “Jack Brown” is a technically flawless film.
90125 [04:57:36] <textstring> Almost.
90225 [04:57:51] <textstring> Resevoir Dogs was good, but he wrote that with Roger Avery too.
90325 [04:57:55] <textstring> Same as Pulp Fiction.
90425 [04:58:05] <AviationMan> Uma Thurman, Daryl Hannah... make any movie worth the time
90525 [04:58:05] <dry> i don't know about technically
90625 [04:58:13] <dry> but it was boring
90725 [04:58:15] <Zeno> Pler   well   The GINI score for the US is .81. Why does that matter? It's a gauge of economic inequality in a country. 0 being equal and anything above that equalling inequality, Ancient Rome was the highest ever @ .59. Revolution is coming and the wealthy had better be ready...
90825 [04:58:19] <textstring> They stopped writing together after Pulp Fiction and after Jackie Brown, we get Kill Bill and nothing but comic book nerd Tarrantino.
90925 [04:58:30] <textstring> I would suggest watching it again.
91025 [04:58:37] <textstring> It his most mature film, imho.
91125 [04:58:42] <dry> i'll consider it
91225 [04:59:02] <@PlagueRat> Allons les enfants de la patria,  etc.   Let's do BASTILLE DAY in the USA
91325 [04:59:12] <mazdak> aux armes les citoyens
91425 [04:59:13] <Zeno> yarkenberg   the problem with westerns is they have been overdone.  Every once in a whiles a good one comes out. 
91525 [04:59:26] <yarkenberg> Zeno ahh ok - well if you are ever  in the mood for some - tarantinos hateful 8 and the remake of the mgnificent 7 were both pretty good for very very different reasons - mag 7 was basically an homage to classic westerns of the 60-70s and Hateful 8 is full of tarantino twists and turns - even tho you probably guess the outcome near the beginging the stuff in the middle is typically good 
91625 [04:59:26] <yarkenberg> quentin
91725 [04:59:29] <mazdak> la patrie ni patria patria est espanol
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91925 [04:59:43] <textstring> Hateful 8 isn’t a Western.
92025 [04:59:44] <textstring> imho.
92125 [04:59:49] <textstring> It’s just a stage play.
92225 [04:59:51] <dry> hateful 8 was better
92325 [04:59:51] <Zeno> yarkenberg  I will watch Hateful 8
92425 [04:59:53] <textstring> Basically.
92525 [04:59:56] <yarkenberg> text well i can see how you would argue that
92625 [05:00:01] <textstring> I wouldn’t call it a Western.
92725 [05:00:12] <textstring> Django was more of a Western.
92825 [05:00:21] <dry> magnificant 7 was your typical movie
92925 [05:00:33] <guerro> textstring: saw Hell or High Water?
93025 [05:00:35] <textstring> Seven Samurai or GTFO
93125 [05:00:44] <textstring> I saw like 45 minutes of it.
93225 [05:00:47] <textstring> I didn’t finish it.
93325 [05:00:52] <textstring> I didn’t think it was bad.
93425 [05:01:43] <textstring> Hell or High Water just didn’t get me.  No real reason that I can pin point.
93525 [05:01:43] <dry> guerro, any good?
93625 [05:01:44] <yarkenberg> Zeno if you look at mag 7 like you thought about godless you may not like it - but if you look at it as a serious tip of the hat to classic westners (even with the heroine wearing a low cut dress and looking overly pretty) i think you might enjoy a bit
93725 [05:02:03] <textstring> Watch the original for Christ’s sake.
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93925 [05:02:11] <textstring> Which was a remake of Seven Samurai.
94025 [05:02:13] <guerro> dry: yeah it's worth seeing
94125 [05:02:14] <Zeno> yarkenberg  ok. I will check it out
94225 [05:02:23] <dry> You guys see Bone Tomahawk
94325 [05:02:24] <dry> ?
94425 [05:02:31] <textstring> That movie if fucking awesome, dry 
94525 [05:02:32] <yarkenberg> not yet - is it good?
94625 [05:02:34] <textstring> I love it so much.
94725 [05:02:38] <dry> i liked it a lot
94825 [05:02:55] <yarkenberg> idry i watched the trailer and have thought about it
94925 [05:02:59] <textstring> It’s a brutal, verbose, language infused Western about cannibals.
95025 [05:03:02] <Zeno> Dossier author was in contact with Obama Justice Department
95125 [05:03:13] <yarkenberg> uhh ohhhh
95225 [05:03:15] <textstring> That is gruesome as shit but has the language of a 19th century English major.
95325 [05:03:18] <textstring> It’s fucking awesome.
95425 [05:03:20] <@PlagueRat> All of that started with Akiro Kurasawa...  just watch the originals and screw Clint Eastwood...  well, not really,  he plays a good character, but it's the same damn character in every film.   Anyway, Toshiro Mifune is better.
95525 [05:03:20] <dry> textstring, yeah...
95625 [05:03:29] <textstring> It’s a wonderful film.
95725 [05:03:32] <textstring> I love it to death.
95825 [05:03:33] <dry> yeppers
95925 [05:03:35] <dry> slow
96025 [05:03:39] <textstring> In a good way.
96125 [05:03:40] <dry> but awesome
96225 [05:03:42] <textstring> imho
96325 [05:03:53] <textstring> Because when the violence comes…oh boy...
96425 [05:04:03] <dry> it's fucked up
96525 [05:04:04] <textstring> It’s kind of Evil like that.
96625 [05:04:19] <textstring> There’s a ton of dialogue…but that makes you get to know all of the characters and like them.
96725 [05:04:22] <textstring> And then..well...
96825 [05:04:22] <dry> literally just the one scene
96925 [05:04:24] <AviationMan> I like the movie, Ronin rather than the base movie of the title
97025 [05:04:27] <textstring> It’s half horror movie.
97125 [05:04:39] <yarkenberg> Zeno - ive only seen one episode and it wasnt the first so i want to go back and start from the begining buti want to watch westworld (the hbo series)
97225 [05:04:41] <textstring> Deniro “Ronin”?
97325 [05:04:59] <textstring> I love Westerns.
97425 [05:05:15] <mazdak> i saw in spain where the good the bad and ugly was filmed
97525 [05:05:25] <mazdak> very dry and desertlike there
97625 [05:05:28] <textstring> Sort of.  I’m not a John Wayne guy.  Except for “The Searchers.” Which is problematic, but just undeniably great, imho.
97725 [05:05:39] <textstring> I’m a Leoni guy.
97825 [05:05:44] <AviationMan> Frankenheimer could have made that crap DeNiro movie about failed counter intelligence, much better
97925 [05:05:54] <mazdak> sergio leon
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98125 [05:06:06] <textstring> leone
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98325 [05:06:21] <mazdak> si
98425 [05:06:23] <@rosco> Zeno... revolution will never come to murka.
98525 [05:06:25] <guerro> mazdak: they made a documentary about that cemetary in Spain from the Good Bad and Ugly
98625 [05:06:26] <textstring> I was right the first time. Leoni
98725 [05:06:28] <@rosco> murka is an animal farm/
98825 [05:06:34] <guerro> it's even become a place of pilgrimage for some
98925 [05:06:39] <mazdak> falangism will come to america!
99025 [05:06:45] <@rosco> as if
99125 [05:06:49] <yarkenberg> rsco ya but we got KFC so who cares
99225 [05:06:50] <mazdak> yeah guerro
99325 [05:06:55] <landy78> why even consider a 'revolution' unless one is a blood thirsty neanderthal
99425 [05:07:01] <@rosco> yarkenberg: that's the spirit
99525 [05:07:05] <yarkenberg> kekekeke
99625 [05:07:23] <textstring> I eagerly awat the day that Trump walks out to a rally and throws KFC fried chicken to the crowd.
99725 [05:07:28] <textstring> And then licks his own fingers.
99825 [05:07:29] <AviationMan> I'm not much of a Clint Eastwood fan though I have been told I look like him. I never believed that until I saw Clint in a beard.
99925 [05:07:31] <@rosco> landy78 what would you call the Koch Bros?
100025 [05:07:33] <landy78> do it the right way: party platrom, mobilize and vote 
100125 [05:07:35] <yarkenberg> it makes me nervous but i have to agree with landy on that one
100225 [05:07:35] <guerro> mazdak: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrEQPe7l6zU
100325 [05:07:40] <mazdak> the most close thing to revolutionary politics in america was sanders rather waterdowned social democratic ideals
100425 [05:07:54] <@rosco> landy78: do it the right way: party platrom, mobilize and vote   <-- theres a word in german for this.
100525 [05:07:55] <landy78> don't repeat a bloody history
100625 [05:07:59] <textstring> I’m told that I look exactly like Ryan Gosling too, AviationMan 
100725 [05:08:06] <landy78> The French Revolution was one of the bloodiest events in modern history. Between 1789 and 1799, French men and women went through dramatic changes in their social and political systems: they overthrew a monarchical system built on aristocratic and Church privilege and attempted to replace it with a more democratic vision of society.
100825 [05:08:09] <AviationMan> That's real gay
100925 [05:08:17] <landy78> That process was not painless. Hundreds of thousands of men, women, and children in France paid for these political and social transformations with their lives
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101125 [05:08:24] <textstring> Clint Eastwood is gay compared to John Wayne, smart guy.
101225 [05:08:30] <guerro> lol
101325 [05:08:31] <yarkenberg> <@rosco> landy78: do it the right way: party platrom, mobilize and vote   <-- theres a word in german for this.<<< schitzengiggles
101425 [05:08:35] <mazdak> text an aquaintance of mine claims his ex sold acid to ryan gosling in the 90s
101525 [05:08:42] <textstring> You’ve mentioned that before.
101625 [05:08:46] <textstring> I believe it.
101725 [05:08:49] <textstring> Gosling is cool.
101825 [05:08:53] <@rosco> Ja... sehr gut.  schitzengiggles.
101925 [05:08:53] <textstring> He does fucked up shit.
102025 [05:08:57] <AviationMan> I was watching Kirk Douglas a couple of hours ago talk about John Wayne the pussy.
102125 [05:09:00] <yarkenberg> bwahahaha
102225 [05:09:05] <textstring> Like with Refn (Drive, Only God Forgives)
102325 [05:09:12] <textstring> He directed a fucked up film of his own.
102425 [05:09:22] <textstring> It was bad, but you could tell he had the right idea.
102525 [05:09:56] <mazdak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loony_left
102625 [05:10:16] <@PlagueRat> textstring - I saw something in the 1980s which will never allow me to take John Wayne seriously again.  It wasn't his fault, not even his doing.  But the image remains burned into my mind forever.   It was a black velvet painting of John Wayne,  with BIG eyes, crying,  holding a dead eagle wrapped in the American flag.   Okay,   that image was immediately indelibly etched into my mind.  
102725 [05:10:16] <@PlagueRat> BIG CRYING EYES....
102825 [05:10:41] <landy78> The Princesse de Lamballe Was Literally Ripped to Pieces in the Streets of Paris
102925 [05:10:41] <textstring> That sounds like exactly what we need for MAGA, PlagueRat 
103025 [05:10:50] <mazdak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_socialist
103125 [05:10:50] <landy78> there's an imagery to behold
103225 [05:11:06] <mazdak>  is broadly similar to the American terms Learjet liberal, limousine liberal or latte liberal, and to idioms in other languages such as the French Gauche caviar, the German Salonkommunist, and the Italian Radical chic. Other related terms include Hampstead liberal, Gucci socialist, and in Ireland smoked salmon socialist.
103325 [05:11:28] <landy78> lol "limousine liberal"
103425 [05:11:30] <textstring> I think we all know what those terms mean.
103525 [05:11:54] <mazdak> gucci socialist sounds cool
103625 [05:12:01] <textstring> Fuck Gucci.
103725 [05:12:04] <mazdak> mao suit done by gucci
103825 [05:12:06] <textstring> They went Millenial.
103925 [05:12:12] <landy78> malraux where did you pick those phrases?
104025 [05:12:16] <landy78> mazdak
104125 [05:12:29] <mazdak> from the soul of the universe
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104325 [05:13:03] <landy78> i thought only right wingers indulged in a ridicule of liberals. apparently "progressive" nut cases do that too
104425 [05:13:11] <textstring> lol
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104625 [05:13:29] <mazdak> Democratic New York City mayoral hopeful Mario Procaccino coined the term "limousine liberal" to describe incumbent Mayor John Lindsay and his wealthy Manhattan backers during a heated 1969 campaign.
104725 [05:13:56] <mazdak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loony_left <-- landy
104825 [05:14:18] <mazdak> Peter Jenkins, a columnist for The Guardian and The Independent, recorded policies which were dubbed "loony left" by the media. For instance, Haringey council allowed only Nicaraguan coffee to be sold[18] and introduced courses on homosexuality into its nursery and primary schools.[18]
104925 [05:14:35] <textstring> Well.
105025 [05:14:41] <guerro> hey nicaraguan coffee is GOOD
105125 [05:14:41] <textstring> That is pretty fucking crazy.
105225 [05:14:47] <mazdak> Another ILEA school in Kennington discouraged competitive games[18] and making pupils write protest letters was made part of the school time-table
105325 [05:15:03] <mazdak> Lambeth London Borough Council banned the word "family" from council literature because this was "discriminatory"[
105425 [05:15:13] <yarkenberg> lol wow
105525 [05:15:25] <mazdak> Hackney London Borough Council ended its twinning arrangements with France, West Germany and Israel and made new twinnings with the Soviet Union, East Germany and Nicaragua. A spokesperson for the council explained: "This will enable us to concentrate on our new friends
105625 [05:15:44] <textstring> I don’t have a problem with a tranny dressed like a demon reading to elementary school children, but I have a problem with mandatory courses about homosexuality per se.
105725 [05:15:48] <@rosco> mazdak  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0ANxAhkxk
105825 [05:15:56] <textstring> It should just be sexuality in general.  I’m a retarded Vulcan.
105925 [05:16:04] <mazdak> In 2000, the BBC reported the withdrawal of guidance to nursery schools by Birmingham City Council that the nursery rhyme Baa Baa Black Sheep should not be taught due to its "racial offensiveness". 
106025 [05:16:09] <@rosco> AfD representative salutes 60-gender types
106125 [05:16:10] <textstring> The demon tranny reading to school children is great though. Hold on. I love this one.
106225 [05:16:17] <yarkenberg> text i didnt know you were a vulcan
106325 [05:16:39] <mazdak> so geil rosco
106425 [05:16:45] <textstring> So. I love this one.
106525 [05:16:45] <textstring> http://www.wnd.com/2017/10/drag-queen-demon-reads-to-kids-at-michelle-obama-library/
106625 [05:16:46] <mazdak> sehr gut
106725 [05:17:02] <textstring> https://www.snopes.com/drag-queen-library/
106825 [05:17:08] <textstring> I would be fine with that.  Honestly.
106925 [05:17:31] <@rosco> What is a "Two Spirit Third Gender " ?
107025 [05:17:39] <mazdak> hmm yes
107125 [05:17:42] <yarkenberg> lulz texty
107225 [05:17:51] <textstring> I think it might mean male/femal new gender.
107325 [05:17:54] <textstring> Something like that.
107425 [05:18:05] <mazdak> what would ernst roehm be called in that video rosco
107525 [05:18:17] <mazdak> dear alpha male butch nazi fag
107625 [05:18:21] <landy78> textstring the real question i think is "are you prepared to fund sex change operations with your taxes"
107725 [05:18:24] <@rosco> just a homosexual (presumably top, variety)
107825 [05:18:25] <mazdak> lol
107925 [05:18:32] <textstring> Sure.
108025 [05:18:39] <textstring> For federal employees, I guess.
108125 [05:18:40] <landy78> i don't think gays or trans people ask for our approval.
108225 [05:18:41] <mazdak> jawohl
108325 [05:18:43] <textstring> Or military members.
108425 [05:18:53] <textstring> I really don’t give a fuck about gender identity.
108525 [05:18:55] <textstring> at all.
108625 [05:19:03] <textstring> I don’t think it matters much.
108725 [05:19:10] <mazdak> gender doesnt matter?
108825 [05:19:13] <textstring> I think that I’m pretty male, but I don’t think it’s very real.
108925 [05:19:14] <mazdak> hmm
109032 [05:19:15] PlagueRat identifies as a rat ...
109125 [05:19:19] <landy78> there was some issue with a trans athlete at the olympics.
109225 [05:19:27] <textstring> Biologically it does, but not “gender identity."
109325 [05:19:28] <textstring> imho
109425 [05:19:35] <Catch_22> gender .... racial .... sexual preference ... me niether textstring
109525 [05:19:43] <@PlagueRat> textstring -  if you are actually drinking as much as you say,  your gender probably doesn't matter one iota...
109625 [05:19:43] <textstring> I just don’t give a fuck.
109725 [05:19:54] <textstring> Well…yes, PlagueRat 
109825 [05:20:00] <textstring> I’m also a loner.
109925 [05:20:00] <yarkenberg> this is important https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB8LdFjqaY8
110025 [05:20:01] <textstring> So.
110125 [05:20:20] <Catch_22> someones effing sexual preference is their own private business .... 
110225 [05:20:21] <textstring> I find that trans racial shit silly.
110325 [05:20:21] <landy78> textstring do you know why you're a loner? lol
110425 [05:20:28] <textstring> I don’t like people much.
110525 [05:20:34] <textstring> Except for when I’m drunk.
110625 [05:20:39] <landy78> don't be an asshole, and you won't be lonely
110725 [05:20:42] <mazdak> social loner
110825 [05:20:43] <textstring> Because I’m an only child and never feel lonely.
110925 [05:21:11] <textstring> I find intereacting with people when I’m sober burdensome.
111025 [05:21:21] <Zeno> landy78  stop being a cunt
111125 [05:21:25] <yarkenberg> lol
111225 [05:21:34] <textstring> And I don’t get lonely.  I’m like a cat.  A really cool, cool cat.
111325 [05:21:36] <Catch_22> alone does not necessarily mean 'lonely' .... depends on ones mental agility
111425 [05:22:07] <Zeno> thanks Catch_22
111525 [05:22:18] <Zeno> Catch_22  a voice of reason
111625 [05:22:20] <landy78> pril 6, 2017 � A stocky, 32-year-old biological man who believes he is a �woman� has been cleared by the governing body of American volleyball to compete as a woman and possibly earn a spot on the U.S. Olympic volleyball team
111725 [05:22:30] <mazdak> madness
111825 [05:22:39] <landy78> i don't know. there seem to be a few legitimate issues with transgenders
111925 [05:22:47] <mazdak> its called mental illness
112025 [05:22:52] <textstring> I think it’s silly for biological exemptions based on psychological gender identity.
112125 [05:22:55] <yarkenberg> i am lonely - where is mans0n?
112225 [05:23:09] <mazdak> manson is upset his father died recently in prison
112325 [05:23:12] <mazdak> :(
112425 [05:23:13] <Zeno> yarkenberg   he is banned by PlagueRat
112525 [05:23:20] <yarkenberg> wow
112625 [05:23:28] <@rosco> yarkenberg: he was banned by a Valküre.
112725 [05:23:35] <yarkenberg> lol
112825 [05:23:42] <landy78> The International Olympic Committee (IOC) confirmed that it would allow transgender athletes to compete in whatever category they wish to participate in during the 2018 Winter Olympics, a report says.
112925 [05:23:42] <Catch_22> i can think of some, especially in the army. I always thought I could say i was turning into a woman so they would put me in the womens barracks. I wonder how many guys try that.
113025 [05:23:50] <textstring> I’m intimidated by umlauts.
113125 [05:23:59] <landy78> "whatever category they wish"   what in hell. 
113225 [05:24:14] <landy78> they could have as well allowed the russian dopers in
113325 [05:24:31] <textstring> I’m a primtive person.
113425 [05:24:49] <Catch_22> do you have to have a card or something to not be arrested for going into a womans bathroom if you are physically a guy?
113525 [05:25:21] <mazdak> gender is just in your head! if you had a dick and feel like a woman..then you are one!
113625 [05:25:25] <textstring> I think that if every cell in your body carries a Y chromosome, you’re biologically male.  I don’t mind calling you female or treating you like a female, but I don’t think we’re going to change your DNA make up here.
113725 [05:25:30] <guerro> hillary probably feels quite lonely, if you think about it.
113825 [05:25:34] <Zeno> The Olympics has been irrelevent for a long time
113925 [05:25:34] <Catch_22> i can see all kinds of problrms here
114025 [05:25:39] <guerro> Not that it matters
114125 [05:26:04] <landy78> guerro why wouuld she. she's got a family, grand children
114225 [05:26:39] <landy78> on the other hand, if she's incapable of bonding with her family members, then its a problem
114325 [05:27:17] <textstring> She should become an obsessesive political activist and view all things as an Identity War.
114425 [05:27:26] <yarkenberg> bwahahaha
114525 [05:27:35] <yarkenberg> that was purrrrrfect
114625 [05:27:44] <@PlagueRat> I think it must be hard for the Most Qualified Human Being ever to relate to mortals...   especially mortals who are so fallible as to be fooled by Comey, Russia, and Sanders... 
114725 [05:28:05] <textstring> Lol.
114825 [05:28:16] <textstring> How has Comey fooled anyone?
114932 [05:28:39] yarkenberg walks and rubs back and forth between Zeno's ankles and leaves a lot of hair on her socks
115025 [05:28:53] <textstring> No one remembers, but I said it was pointless to attack Comey right after he came out with the Weiner follow up shit.
115125 [05:29:11] <textstring> Feline malice, yarkenberg 
115225 [05:29:25] <textstring> Building up the static charge for when you rip her eyes out in her sleep.
115325 [05:29:29] <yarkenberg> it certainly is but i need some burbon and friskies
115425 [05:29:39] <textstring> You pounce and discharge the sock build up, further paralyzing your prey.
115525 [05:29:40] <landy78> yea comey's mistake was publicly stepping into highly contentious political issues.
115625 [05:29:45] <textstring> And Sheba.
115725 [05:29:51] <landy78> mueller doesn't parade himself all over the media, thank god
115825 [05:29:55] <textstring> Because we’re all about Jim Beam and cat food.
115925 [05:30:11] <Zeno> fuckin A
116025 [05:30:12] <yarkenberg> bwahaha texty ehhh that might be a bit more violent than i had planned - i just wanted some booooooze
116125 [05:30:57] <@PlagueRat> Did you know that Mueller was a Marine in Vietnam...   got a bronze star, oak leaf cluster,  purple heart,  and a pile of lesser medals ...
116225 [05:30:59] <textstring> Eyes sound like pop corn when the humans sleep if you lick their eyelids before you pounce, yarkenberg 
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116425 [05:31:21] <yarkenberg> around 2530 years ago - everyone around me was saying "kin-A"
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116625 [05:31:30] <landy78> PlagueRat i didn't know that
116725 [05:31:41] <textstring> I have a good one.
116825 [05:31:54] <textstring> Back in 1996, we were saying “Damn it Was A Good Kin-A"
116925 [05:32:01] <textstring> “Oooh—Aaahh.."
117025 [05:32:11] <textstring> “Dunnnerdunnerdundundun."
117125 [05:32:18] <@PlagueRat> Mueller is a tough, no nonsense sorta guy.    He's 73 years old,  but I bet he could kick my ass.
117225 [05:32:20] <textstring> “oooh-Aaah”
117325 [05:32:25] <textstring> He’s the fucking Terminator.
117425 [05:32:30] <yarkenberg> heh
117525 [05:32:32] <textstring> 400,000 fucking documents.
117625 [05:32:35] <textstring> For Manafort.
117725 [05:32:39] <textstring> That’s fucking notice.
117825 [05:32:56] <textstring> It’s comically mismatched.
117925 [05:33:13] <textstring> Trump hire’s a clown squad headed by a ring leader with a handlebar moustache.
118025 [05:33:29] <textstring> And then there’s the former director of the FBI that took down Enron and heading up the post 9-11 response.
118125 [05:33:32] <textstring> It’s fucking comical.
118225 [05:33:47] <mazdak> political theatre comedy act
118325 [05:33:47] <@PlagueRat> Trump had the homeless bum with a pineapple face as his chief strategist....
118425 [05:33:58] <textstring> I noticed something tongiht.
118525 [05:34:00] <textstring> tonight.
118625 [05:34:01] <landy78> lol PlagueRat
118725 [05:34:09] <textstring> In the Florida Not Alabama Rally.
118825 [05:34:10] <landy78> bannon looks weird
118925 [05:34:16] <textstring> Trump had grey hair.
119025 [05:34:24] <textstring> Not Radioactive Cheeto Orange.
119125 [05:34:49] <landy78> this is supposed to be a "good" photo of bannon  https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/steve-bannon-435-1.jpg?w=435&h=580&crop=1
119225 [05:35:17] <mazdak> bannon is the dr goebels of the alt right
119325 [05:35:21] <textstring> I hesitant to mock the appearance of Bannon because I start looking sort of like that quickly when I let myself go.
119425 [05:35:26] <Catch_22> Trump urges Alabama voters to back Roy Moore -- U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday voiced support for Roy Moore, the Alabama Republican Senate candidate dogged by accusations of sexual misconduct, during a rally that foreshadowed themes for next year�s midterm elections. 
119525 [05:35:26] <@PlagueRat> landy78 -  Actually, we should feel sorry for Bannon.  He has a tragic back story to his looks.  He was in a bar, smoking,  and a woman threw some 151 in his face.  The cigarette caused it to catch fire,  and the bar tender tried to pat the flames out.  Unfortunately he was holding an ice pick at the time.
119625 [05:35:27] <Catch_22> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-alabama-trump/trump-urges-alabama-voters-to-back-roy-moore-idUSKBN1E304I
119725 [05:35:33] <textstring> I don’t think any of these people are very smart.
119825 [05:36:15] <textstring> Look at that photo.
119925 [05:36:17] <textstring> Silver hair.
120025 [05:36:22] <landy78> maybe if i knew what 151 is, i'd get the joke
120125 [05:36:25] <textstring> I think we’ve entered the Silver Hair Trump phase.
120225 [05:36:36] <@PlagueRat> high alcohol percentage...   over 75%
120325 [05:36:42] <@PlagueRat> it burns easily
120425 [05:36:49] <landy78> i see  lol
120525 [05:36:50] <textstring> Everclear?
120625 [05:36:51] <@PlagueRat> it's actually pretty much impossible to drink straight
120725 [05:36:54] <@PlagueRat> yeah
120825 [05:37:02] <textstring> I took a shot of Everclear once.
120925 [05:37:08] <textstring> I puked. It truly is gasoline.
121025 [05:37:23] <textstring> It exists to cause pain.
121125 [05:37:43] <textstring> And not good pain.
121225 [05:37:49] <mazdak> https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3e/a7/5e/3ea75e5e015df34eb5851ac7f4a39956--cyberpunk-tattoo-face-profile.jpg
121325 [05:37:51] <textstring> It’s just shitty and exactly what you’d expect it to be.
121425 [05:38:08] <@PlagueRat> I like to use it to make liquors...     For example,  pour everclear, sugar, and ground coffee in a jar. Let sit overnight.  Filter.   It's coffee liquour
121525 [05:38:29] <textstring> I just pour Bailey’s over bran flakes.
121625 [05:38:32] <mazdak> nic endo #1
121725 [05:39:12] <@PlagueRat> I do the same with fruits,  flowers, etc.  I make a lavendar liquour which is very nice.  A little in a custard is heavenly.   We grow the lavander ourselves so we know it's not laced with pesticides
121825 [05:39:30] <textstring> I think lavener fields are lovely.
121925 [05:39:32] <textstring> lavender
122025 [05:39:44] <mazdak> i tried gin for the first time not long ago
122125 [05:39:55] <mazdak> its very british
122225 [05:40:19] <textstring> https://mymodernmet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/archive/QKOLcAKJ13JC2zngBMeu_lavenderfields1LocLagarde.jpg
122325 [05:40:25] <textstring> I love gin.
122425 [05:40:28] <mazdak> i think it was bombay saphire
122525 [05:40:33] <textstring> That’s my jam.
122625 [05:40:40] <textstring> Or “Death’s Door."
122725 [05:40:50] <textstring> Bombay Sapphire you can get everywhere though.
122825 [05:40:59] <textstring> Sapphire and Tonic.
122925 [05:41:03] <mazdak>  Secretly produced "bathtub gin" was available in the speakeasies and "blind pigs" of Prohibition-era America as a result of the relative simple production.
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123125 [05:41:20] <yarkenberg> i prefer beefeater but i like bombay saphire too - tanqueray disgusts me a lot
123225 [05:41:24] <mazdak> i like rum better though
123325 [05:41:35] <Catch_22> Tiny ocean creatures can shred a plastic bag into 1.75 million pieces -- Surveys have found as many as 700 different marine species regularly encounter and ingest plastic pollution. https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2017/12/08/Tiny-ocean-creatures-can-shred-a-plastic-bag-into-175-million-pieces/7161512745421/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ls&utm_medium=4
123425 [05:41:41] <textstring> I’ve tried Tanqueray and Beef Eater..I’m a Bombay guy.
123525 [05:41:45] <mazdak> yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
123625 [05:41:58] <textstring> I like Evil Shit.
123725 [05:42:03] <textstring> I love gin and Irish Whisky.
123825 [05:42:11] <textstring> And Scotch.
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124025 [05:42:41] <textstring> I like cognac too.
124125 [05:42:43] <yarkenberg> i think Zeno could make a martini we would like texty
124225 [05:43:26] <Zeno> My Cloud Martini
124325 [05:43:35] <textstring> I’m not hard to please.
124425 [05:43:44] <mazdak> i saw a matini at some place called bolshevik bastard
124525 [05:43:46] <textstring> Hendrick’s is good gin, too.
124625 [05:43:48] <mazdak> martini
124725 [05:44:19] <Zeno> I'm old scholl.. Tanqueray
124825 [05:44:34] <textstring> I’m kind of bastard and know it so I need to be kept away from that stuff. Drinking wine if frankly pushing it for me.
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125025 [05:44:51] <textstring> I like Tanq more than Beef Eater.
125125 [05:45:05] <textstring> I’m a Sapphire pussy though.
125225 [05:45:07] <mazdak> queef eater
125325 [05:45:08] <yarkenberg> hust yo mouf
125425 [05:45:09] <textstring> If you want to call it that.
125525 [05:45:17] <yarkenberg> shut
125625 [05:45:17] <mazdak> queef eater gin
125725 [05:45:25] <mazdak> :)
125825 [05:46:04] <textstring> Gin fucking destroys people.  I think it’s the most “manly” spirit out there.
125925 [05:46:14] <mazdak> it smells good gin
126025 [05:46:27] <textstring> I think most people think it smells revolting.
126125 [05:46:31] <textstring> Vodka wussies.
126225 [05:46:42] <textstring> They know nothing of botanicals.
126325 [05:46:50] <mazdak> yes gin is botanical
126425 [05:47:20] <textstring> Gin isn’t fucking around, and let’s you know that from the get go. It has one purpose. To fuck you up.
126525 [05:47:27] <textstring> And it’s painfully honest about that.
126625 [05:47:41] <yarkenberg> text i agree - an honest booze
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126825 [05:48:45] <mazdak> i was at a pub in ottawa that had over 200 kinds of beer
126925 [05:48:59] <mazdak> they had like 7 different belgian beers alone
127025 [05:49:27] <mazdak> they served italian style pub food and then a shitload of beer from around the world
127125 [05:50:03] <mazdak> http://www.pubitalia.ca/home.html <---
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127325 [05:50:13] <yarkenberg> italian style? you mean they didnt wash their hands first?
127425 [05:50:15] <textstring> I’m fucking boring.
127525 [05:50:20] <textstring> I like gin and Guinness.
127625 [05:50:24] <mazdak> heheh
127725 [05:50:30] <textstring> I don’t give a shit about craft beers.
127825 [05:50:38] <textstring> I think hops and sweet shit are dumb.
127925 [05:50:47] <textstring> I am very close minded about booze.
128025 [05:50:55] <textstring> I know what I like.
128125 [05:51:06] <textstring> And I am completely disinterested in anything else.
128225 [05:51:12] <textstring> I’m a fundamentalist about Guinness.
128325 [05:51:15] <textstring> And gin.
128425 [05:51:18] <yarkenberg> hahahahaa
128525 [05:51:20] <mazdak> how british
128625 [05:51:30] <Catch_22> California lawmaker resigns after bathroom sex assault claim http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article188900909.html
128725 [05:51:51] <textstring> I am completely fucking uninterested with like craft beer tours and all of that.
128825 [05:51:57] <mazdak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLZi9wI1C0M <-- text that is you in a few years
128925 [05:52:00] <kmh> Catch_22,  motherfucker
129025 [05:52:00] <mazdak> :)
129125 [05:52:02] <textstring> I click
129225 [05:52:10] <kmh> Catch_22,  they keep on coming
129325 [05:52:16] <mazdak> remember the scene in clockwork orange with the old drunk
129425 [05:52:47] <textstring> Meh. okay, mazdak 
129525 [05:52:49] <mazdak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLZi9wI1C0M  <-- lol this is going to be texstring <-- from clockwork orange
129625 [05:53:25] <textstring> lulz
129725 [05:53:26] <textstring> hold on.
129825 [05:53:44] <mazdak> howling away at the filthy sons of his fathers
129925 [05:54:18] <textstring> You undestand nothing, mazdak : https://youtu.be/p0_der_5hRM
130025 [05:54:39] <Catch_22> 2 hours ago: Obama in Chicago speech: Protect democracy or risk taking path of Nazi Germany -- Obama says Americans must be vigilant in their defense of democracy or risk following the path of Nazi Germany in the 1930s. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-obama-speech-nazi-germany-20171208-story.html
130125 [05:54:41] <mazdak> blocked in canada for copyright :(
130225 [05:55:00] <textstring> LOL.For the best. Garth Brooks. “Friends In Low Places."
130325 [05:55:02] <mazdak> i need a web proxy
130425 [05:55:39] <textstring> I’m too fucking lazy for a VPN.
130525 [05:56:01] <textstring> Proxy, Whatever you want to call it.
130625 [05:56:15] <mazdak> virtual private network ads latency!
130725 [05:56:26] <mazdak> overhead packets
130825 [05:56:34] <textstring> Not a big deal, imho.
130925 [05:56:35] <mazdak> more handshaking
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131125 [05:56:43] <mazdak> god tcp is ancient
131225 [05:56:50] <mazdak> from what early 70s
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131425 [05:57:05] <textstring> Sounds around right.
131525 [05:57:42] <mazdak> its pretty fundamental to the internetz
131625 [05:57:55] <mazdak> IEEE 802.3
131725 [05:57:57] <textstring> It’s fundamental to IP.
131825 [05:57:59] <textstring> SO yeah.
131925 [05:58:14] <mazdak> RFQ
132025 [05:58:19] <textstring> The Internet is built on icredibly old shit.
132125 [05:58:26] <textstring> RFC you meant
132225 [05:58:33] <mazdak> yes
132325 [05:59:18] <textstring> I guess that I like Zinfadel.
132425 [05:59:20] <mazdak> three way handshaking is fundamental too
132525 [05:59:22] <textstring> I drank it all.
132625 [05:59:27] <textstring> That’s how it works.
132725 [05:59:36] <mazdak> no handshake no net!
132825 [05:59:36] <textstring> syn ack syn syn ack
132925 [05:59:38] <AviationMan> Technically the internet is made from parts from the early atlas rockets tested by redstone
133025 [05:59:39] <textstring> something liek that
133125 [05:59:47] <mazdak> syn syn ack ack
133225 [05:59:49] <@PlagueRat> The internet hasn't been substantially updated since Al Gore invented it
133325 [05:59:52] <textstring> The fuck are you talking about, AviationMan ?
133425 [06:00:06] <AviationMan> drink up textstring...
133525 [06:00:10] <mazdak> syn floods!
133625 [06:00:11] <textstring> Oh, I will.
133725 [06:00:13] <mazdak> arp floods!
133825 [06:00:16] <textstring> I have Guinness.
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134025 [06:00:29] <mazdak> syn and arp flooding is good way to screw things
134125 [06:00:41] <AviationMan> I saw vint cerf speak about himself inventing the internet
134225 [06:00:45] <textstring> ARP is layer 2 broadcast resolving your NIC card, kids.
134325 [06:00:58] <mazdak> you can program arps on the fly now
134425 [06:01:05] <textstring> It’s below TCP/IP and happens on your own LAN.
134525 [06:01:21] <textstring> Every PC is a unique, special snowflace with it’s own MAC address.
134625 [06:01:26] <textstring> And that’s how the Internet works.
134725 [06:01:32] <textstring> snowflake
134825 [06:01:38] <mazdak> hardwired and software mac
134925 [06:01:38] <textstring> Everyone gets a MAC address.
135025 [06:01:44] <AviationMan> Internet is no longer set to work as it initially was implemented and designed. Its no longer really a self-survivable network, it a forced configured network. it semi-rigged.
135125 [06:01:57] <mazdak> part is burned in at manufacturing..other part is software and can be programmed
135225 [06:02:04] <textstring> I don’t think you know what the fuck you’re talking about at all, AviationMan 
135325 [06:02:06] <textstring> But go on.
135425 [06:02:15] <mazdak> OSI model!
135525 [06:02:27] <mazdak> ALL PEOPLE SEEM TO NEED DATA PROCESSING
135625 [06:02:46] <textstring> Application Presentation Session Transport Network Datalink Physical
135725 [06:02:58] <AviationMan> textstring: Drunk english majors seldom understand engineers
135825 [06:03:05] <mazdak> yup
135925 [06:03:15] <textstring> Fück me then.
136025 [06:03:20] <AviationMan> or anyone else
136125 [06:03:24] <mazdak> did you major in english text?
136225 [06:03:30] <textstring> Philosphy.
136325 [06:03:32] <textstring> Close enough.
136425 [06:03:53] <mazdak> i took political science and philophy then dropped out for electronics engineering :(
136525 [06:04:03] <textstring> You’re smarter than I am.
136625 [06:04:13] <mazdak> maybe!
136725 [06:04:24] <AviationMan> Philosophy, equally worthless
136825 [06:04:32] <textstring> I went really worthless.
136925 [06:04:44] <textstring> Continental philosophy in the U.S.
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137225 [06:04:51] <textstring> I was like double down stupid.
137325 [06:04:53] <textstring> And worthless.
137425 [06:05:00] <AviationMan> The only great philosophy major of modern times in Steve Martin and its mostly because he could play the banjo.
137525 [06:05:20] <textstring> You lie.
137625 [06:05:24] <krshna> earl scruggs is better
137725 [06:05:29] <krshna> you are russian
137825 [06:05:31] <textstring> It was because he wore that hat with the arrow through his head.
137925 [06:05:40] <AviationMan> Steve Martin *is* a philosophy major
138025 [06:05:54] <AviationMan> He used it in his early comedey
138125 [06:05:57] <AviationMan> comedy
138225 [06:06:02] <krshna> earl scruggs plays the banjo better
138325 [06:06:17] <AviationMan> Said he graduated and opened a drive-thru philosophy store.
138425 [06:06:30] <textstring> I would kind of like to see Steve Martin engaed in an MC Battle like vs a college chick armed with a ukelele.
138525 [06:06:34] <textstring> To the death.
138625 [06:06:41] <textstring> like battle
138725 [06:06:43] <AviationMan> But philosophy can be useful for comedy or drinking.
138825 [06:06:55] <textstring> What a fucking punchline, AviationMan 
138925 [06:06:58] <krshna> mm I thinhk a drive in shrink would be good, after all they have drive in churches
139025 [06:07:17] <mazdak> a drive in ISKON hare krishna temple
139125 [06:07:24] <krshna> indeed
139225 [06:07:30] <AviationMan> Rene deCartes was a drunken fart, I drink therefore I am... (Australian Philosophy Dept - Monty Python)
139325 [06:07:50] <mazdak> krshna a while ago i used to know a canadian greek girl into ISKON..and another girl who was related to some major ISKON leader
139425 [06:07:58] <krshna> jesu was the last good pjilosopher
139525 [06:08:08] <textstring> Fuck it. Guinness now.
139625 [06:08:13] <AviationMan> Why you drink is no surprise... why you have to make us a part of it is the only question.
139732 [06:08:36] PlagueRat "enjoys" watching somebody kill themselves...
139825 [06:08:48] <mazdak> hes not an aviation man so he drinks :(
139925 [06:09:07] <AviationMan> To philosophy majors there is a tendency to believe that drinking will free their mind to new insights... Stole it from Timothy Leary
140025 [06:09:20] <mazdak> what did you major in man
140125 [06:09:26] <textstring> This is my outreach to humanity.
140225 [06:09:39] <textstring> I did a lot of LSD too.
140325 [06:09:43] <textstring> Not the same thing.
140425 [06:10:19] <textstring> I only like myself when I’m drunk.  Don’t you like me too?  Right now?
140525 [06:10:20] <AviationMan> PlagueRat: Like the Nicolas Cage drinking comedy, "LEAVING LAS VEGAS"
140625 [06:10:31] <krshna>  Jesus said to Thomas, " I am not your teacher; you have drunk from and become intoxicated from the bubbling water that I poured out." Jesus took Thomas and they withdrew. Jesus said three things to him. When Thomas returned to the other disciples, they asked him, "What did Jesus tell you?" Thomas replied, "If I tell you even one of the sayings that he told me you would pick up stones and throw them at me, and fire would c
140725 [06:10:52] <mazdak> thats gospel of thomas..the gnostic text krshna
140825 [06:11:00] <mazdak> from nag hamadi in 1945
140925 [06:11:17] <mazdak> supposedly thomas went to south india later
141025 [06:11:18] <AviationMan> I drank in college about 50 years ago
141125 [06:11:19] <krshna> yep
141225 [06:11:34] <mazdak> gnosticism is interesting and cool
141325 [06:11:34] <AviationMan> It wasn't relevent after college
141425 [06:11:45] <textstring> I think that I’m rational than most people even when I’m drunk as shit.
141525 [06:11:47] <textstring> Smarter too.
141625 [06:11:49] <textstring> Faster.
141725 [06:11:49] <mazdak> i was not alive 50 years ago
141825 [06:11:50] <textstring> Leaner.
141925 [06:11:53] <textstring> More educated.
142025 [06:11:55] <textstring> Svelte.
142125 [06:11:58] <textstring> And awesome.
142225 [06:12:01] <textstring> You know what I’m like?
142332 [06:12:03] mazdak bows
142425 [06:12:16] <textstring> I’m like this: https://www.bang-olufsen.com/en/collection/wireless-speaker-systems/beosound-shape
142525 [06:12:35] <AviationMan> yeah, drunks also believe their Olympic class atheletes and Gran Prix drivers
142625 [06:12:41] <textstring> That’s an incredibly self aggrandizing and round about way to just link to what I think are fucking amazing speakers.
142725 [06:12:49] <krshna> mazdak gnosticism is catholic hate speech, invented centuries after jesus
142825 [06:13:03] <mazdak> catholic hate speech? how
142925 [06:13:13] <krshna> gnosis is baaaad
143025 [06:13:14] <mazdak> the early catholics smashed gnosticism as heresy
143125 [06:13:20] <mazdak> gnosis is great!
143225 [06:13:32] <textstring> Gnosis was early Protestantism due to individual mysticism.
143325 [06:13:33] <textstring> Whoops.
143425 [06:13:35] <AviationMan> Does anyone click on a drunks urls?
143525 [06:13:37] <krshna> so it makes little sense to apply theat hate speech
143625 [06:13:38] <textstring> Did I say it’?
143725 [06:13:39] <mazdak> somwhat text yes
143825 [06:13:42] <dioTe> bbl
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144025 [06:13:55] <krshna> Jesus responded: When you make the two into one, and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside, and the upper like the lower and the lower like the upper and thus make the male and the female the same, so that the male isn't male and the female isn't female. When you make an eye to replace an eye, and a hand to replace a hand, and a foot to replace a foot, and an image to replace an image th
144125 [06:14:10] <mazdak> thats gospel of thomas too
144225 [06:14:15] <mazdak> or phillip
144325 [06:14:17] <textstring> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeism
144425 [06:14:30] <krshna> well, it's the only direct, verbatim record of jesus's sayings
144525 [06:14:46] <mazdak> manicheaism was persian gnosticism
144625 [06:14:47] <yarkenberg> bwahahahaaaaa
144725 [06:14:59] <mazdak> it was cosmological dualism
144825 [06:15:15] <krshna> unitarian
144925 [06:15:17] <mazdak> good and evil as spirits locked in enternal combat in the soul and world
145025 [06:15:38] <textstring> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism
145125 [06:15:43] <krshna> the gospel of thomas is a good read, excellent philosophy
145225 [06:15:57] <mazdak> manicheaism incorporated zoroastrian and buddhist concepts into a christian overlay
145325 [06:16:04] <mazdak> yeah i have a copy krshna
145425 [06:16:17] <mazdak> the complete nag hamadi gnostic texts
145525 [06:16:45] <mazdak> there was a clear eastern spiritual influence to gnosticism on many levels
145625 [06:16:46] <@PlagueRat> mazdak - sounds like riveting reading
145725 [06:16:58] <textstring> I think the first monotheistic religion was the cult of Aten in Egypt.
145825 [06:17:07] <mazdak> yes akhenaton
145925 [06:17:12] <textstring> yep
146025 [06:17:13] <mazdak> the hymn to the aten
146125 [06:17:40] <mazdak> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBHLLReTF2s&t=49s <--- sun worship monotheism
146225 [06:17:44] <textstring> Argh.
146325 [06:18:07] <textstring> Tummy full of wine vs. Guinness and now talking about Egyptian monotheism.
146425 [06:18:11] <textstring> Night, guys.
146525 [06:18:14] <textstring> Cheers.
146625 [06:18:16] <mazdak> it was sort of pantheistic...atenism
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146825 [06:18:33] <krshna> sun god worship
146925 [06:19:02] <mazdak> yeah
147025 [06:19:10] <mazdak> sol invictus..the roman sun god
147125 [06:19:30] <mazdak> solar imagery is used in many religious faiths
147225 [06:19:32] <krshna> rothschild.... the modern god of money
147325 [06:19:50] <mazdak> the zionist masonic illuminati konspiracy!
147425 [06:19:52] <krshna> rex mundi
147525 [06:20:22] <krshna> mazdak did you know, if you call something a conspiracy, it disappears from history?
147625 [06:20:31] <mazdak> !
147725 [06:20:50] <krshna> amazing
147825 [06:21:00] <krshna> unbelievable in fact
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149525 [07:30:49] <P-1^> LOL  Florida rally cheers when Republican predicts Trump’s Jerusalem embassy decision may usher in Armageddon   https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/florida-rally-cheers-when-republican-predicts-trumps-jerusalem-embassy-decision-may-usher-in-armageddon/#.Wis--kxl1VY.facebook
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149725 [07:47:31] <greebo_Brat> you americans are just weird
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149925 [07:57:31] <greebo_Brat> something very odd over this
150025 [07:57:45] <greebo_Brat> dont recall muslims throwing a tantrum over russia recognising jerusalem as israels capital
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150225 [08:03:04] <Shirakawasun> Russia's embassy is in Tel Aviv
150325 [08:03:10] <Shirakawasun> also Russia's a much smaller player
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150625 [08:06:41] <dioTe> good afternoon
150725 [08:13:09] <greebo_Brat> ah, russians are unimportant
150825 [08:13:19] <greebo_Brat> american exceptionalism at its best ;) 
150925 [08:15:14] <Shirakawasun> simple facts
151025 [08:17:43] <greebo_Brat> well if you want facts, reality is US influence in the ME is waning, Russia's is growing
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151225 [08:24:03] <P-1^> greebo: true.....the usa can no longer be looked at as a world leader......we have leaders who believe in noah's ark...and who think god wants them tp help trigger the end times in israel LOL....
151325 [08:24:09] <dioTe> itis at the moment
151425 [08:24:22] <greebo_Brat> somehow I doubt trump is that religious
151525 [08:24:41] <dioTe> i doubt it either
151625 [08:25:07] <dioTe> all he did was to execute an AMERICAN law
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152025 [08:37:09] <JuanaTaco> Mueller chose former Wilmer Cutler lawfirm partner Andrew Weissmann as his 1st deputy. Not everyone is a Weissmann fan. Sidney Powell, a federal prosecutor who is past president of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, wrote an opinion piece in the Hill that said, in part, that Weissmann “is not just a ‘tough’ prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most 
152125 [08:37:09] <JuanaTaco> touted ‘victories’ for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law. Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 29,000+ jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.” ... http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/andrew-weissman-weissman-mueller-in
152225 [08:37:11] <JuanaTaco> vestigation-lawyer-attorney/
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153625 [10:33:18] <heythere> Litecoin (LTC) has reacted to Bitcoin’s impressive surge earlier this week with a massive run of its own. https://themerkle.com/litecoin-approaches-200-in-monster-rally/
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154125 [10:47:12] <shields> http://beforeitsnews.com/economy/2017/12/easy-way-to-earn-free-litecoins-2925324.html
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154325 [11:11:45] <Catch_22> israel is now bombing gaza and gaza is shooting rockets into israel.  But Trump says the US is still on the up and up as a credible negotiator for some agreement between israel and palestine.
154425 [11:12:23] <Catch_22> he can;t believe that .... its just something he says.
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154625 [11:25:09] <P-1^> Catch_22: my god trump supporters are fucking retarded
154725 [11:25:18] <P-1^> i hate to say that
154825 [11:25:25] <P-1^> but....come on
154925 [11:25:26] <Catch_22> heh
155025 [11:26:33] <P-1^> this guy has destroyed the world leader status of the united states.....nobody can look to this country for sane mediation anymore
155125 [11:27:34] <Catch_22> hey ... its great, the 3rd entifada has started. Missiles are flying. All the evangelicals need to do now, is get trump to encourage the chinese to send troops over the euphrates and Revelation will be complete .... armageddon
155225 [11:27:53] <P-1^> no peace process...no negotiating....no fair trade deals......just a bunch of religious kooks with guns supporting their unhinged demogogue despot....
155325 [11:28:27] <P-1^> Catch_22: thats what they want....they want trump to bring about the end times prophesy LOL
155425 [11:28:54] <Catch_22> someone read all the dystopina novels of the last 50 years ... and came up with an implementable plan. That is what we are seeing.
155525 [11:30:12] <greebo_Brat> P-1^, obama wasnt THAT bad, calm down
155625 [11:30:12] <greebo_Brat> ;) 
155725 [11:30:34] <Catch_22> he wasn't that good either.... 
155825 [11:30:57] <Catch_22> he was too cheney-like in his unitary president concept
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156225 [11:47:50] <Globie^> hi
156325 [11:52:51] <P-1^> greebo_Brat: they found out that steve bannon and stephen miller were conducting satanic rituals in the white house and accidentally opened up a portal to hell
156425 [11:52:57] <P-1^> hi globie
156525 [11:53:19] <greebo_Brat> slight problem, P-1, satan and hell dont exist
156625 [11:53:37] <Catch_22> tell that to trump
156725 [11:54:07] <P-1^> lol
156825 [11:54:12] <Globie^> hi P-1
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157025 [11:54:37] <greebo_Brat> Catch_22, I wouldnt be that surprised if he agreed with me, off the record at least
157125 [11:57:51] <P-1^> greebo_Brat: ahh...so you agree that trump puts on an act ...pretending to cling to a facade of fake christianity and patriotism to attract support from fucktarded evangelical conservative christians?
157225 [11:58:06] <greebo_Brat> P-1, he's a politician. 
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157425 [11:58:23] <Globie^> he's a moron
157525 [11:58:25] <Globie^> hi Wolf
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157725 [11:58:35] <WolF`> hi Globie^
157825 [11:58:38] <greebo_Brat> if he was he'd never got to where he is. 
157925 [11:58:54] <greebo_Brat> so, more accurate to say, shame he isn't as moronic as he comes over as being
158025 [11:59:02] <Globie^> he makes "deals" with other people's money
158125 [11:59:09] <Globie^> or, OPM
158225 [11:59:13] <greebo_Brat> yes, they're called "business people" Globie^
158325 [11:59:15] <greebo_Brat> they're quite common
158425 [11:59:51] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - most business people don't go bankrupt 6 times, get shunned by American banks, and generally laughed at in his home town
158525 [12:00:08] <greebo_Brat> and those that do, many dont survive. he did. 
158625 [12:00:26] <Globie^> it's all smoke and mirrors
158725 [12:01:07] <P-1^> greebo_Brat: trump was born rich....he never worked a job a day in his life...never had a boss...never told "no" as a child.......he is petty, thin skinned, and vindictive.......guys like that dont deserve to live.....no respect give....fuck that cheeto :)
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158925 [12:01:28] <Globie^> he was once asked who his favorite role model was.  he responded, "P.T. Barnum" - what does that tell you?
159025 [12:01:42] <greebo_Brat> just because I dont like someone and disagree with how they go about expressing their political views doesnt mean they are a moron (you should take comfort from this, since a lot of people here, would fall into that category ;) 
159125 [12:02:05] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - I take it you never lived in NYC
159225 [12:02:09] <greebo_Brat> Globie^, he knows the value of showman ship and can, and has, used it to achieve his goals
159325 [12:02:19] <greebo_Brat> I've never been to the US ;P 
159425 [12:02:33] <WolF`> Melania Trump wishes to go to “deserted island” for Christmas, internet agrees
159525 [12:02:40] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - I spent 25 years in NYC.  Trump is largely regarded as a joke
159625 [12:03:00] <Globie^> Wolf - poor Melania - I bet she's miserable
159725 [12:03:00] <greebo_Brat> well, he's president now, so that joke has backfired on you lot hasn't it
159825 [12:03:40] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - yep, "a sucker is born every minute" PT Barnum
159925 [12:03:40] <WolF`> Hardly anyone looks more miserable on a daily basis than First Lady Melania Trump. Whether she's slapping away President Donald Trump's handholding attempts or simply rocking her permanent tight-lipped mug, Melania always seems to be one low-security-day-away from bolting out the White House doors. Really, can you blame her?
160025 [12:05:04] <P-1^> greebo: well....trump is actually stupid in many ways....he has no impulse control....says ridiculous shit on twitter that has implicated him in wrong doing......he has no sense of letting shit go that is of no consequence....and instead chooses to argue about petty shit that only means something to his ego.
160125 [12:05:06] <Globie^> Wolf - the only thing is - she married the guy, for better or worse
160225 [12:05:36] <WolF`> Globie^, she married him for his money
160325 [12:05:43] <P-1^> thats NOT the sign of an intelligent, emotionally mature man
160425 [12:05:45] <Globie^> Wolf - likely
160525 [12:05:47] <greebo_Brat> or he's very good at manipulating the press to stay in peoples concious and political discourse
160632 [12:05:49] greebo_Brat shrugs 
160725 [12:05:51] <WolF`> shes a gold digger
160825 [12:06:02] <greebo_Brat> for all he has against him (and its a lot), he's still president.
160925 [12:06:03] <Globie^> probably
161025 [12:06:22] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - he is not lasting a full term
161125 [12:06:25] <WolF`> not for long he aint
161225 [12:06:31] <greebo_Brat> maybe if you stopped calling him a moron, took him more seriously and had more effectively debated against what he was selling he would have been defeated
161325 [12:06:45] <greebo_Brat> Globie, he wasnt suspose to have been elected in the first place ;P 
161425 [12:06:52] <WolF`> not only is he a moron, hes a theif
161525 [12:07:24] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - the voters, like those who enrolled in Trump University, were easily bamboozled
161625 [12:07:39] <P-1^> greebo: he is not a president...he is a petty, thin skinned, vindictive, spoiled asshole......a president represents the people of the country.....that guy only represents a select few......he's not a president....fuck that coward
161725 [12:07:45] <Globie^> and he did not win the popular vote
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161925 [12:07:48] <greebo_Brat> ah yes the "you voted for a poopy head, you must be stupid" 
162025 [12:07:52] <greebo_Brat> hillary tried that argument
162125 [12:07:54] <greebo_Brat> she lost
162225 [12:08:06] <WolF`> the majority of americans didnt elect trump
162325 [12:08:08] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - and how did you view Richard Nixon?
162425 [12:08:22] <greebo_Brat> Globie, not sure I was even alive during his presidency ;P 
162525 [12:08:23] <WolF`> hillary won by over 3 million votes
162625 [12:08:29] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - ah
162732 [12:08:35] greebo_Brat goes and googles 
162825 [12:08:51] <greebo_Brat> ah hah, I was ... for 4 months
162925 [12:08:57] <dioTe> she didnt not - yoiu know and I know it is EC vote that determines the winner
163025 [12:09:02] <greebo_Brat> I was born in april 74, he left office in august 74
163125 [12:09:10] <Globie^> it's not necessary to stick with a person simply because "he's the president"
163225 [12:09:13] <greebo_Brat> Globie, I think I might have gargled a bit, and might have farted
163325 [12:09:27] <Globie^> greebo_Brat - at 4 months old?  yes
163425 [12:09:34] <greebo_Brat> :)
163525 [12:09:56] <greebo_Brat> but nixon was a twonk, a failure
163625 [12:09:58] <greebo_Brat> a bad president
163725 [12:10:04] <greebo_Brat> he signed the ABM treaty ¬.¬ 
163825 [12:10:07] <greebo_Brat> bloody fool
163925 [12:10:44] <^skunk``> wolf elec college is the system - trump won 
164025 [12:10:47] <Globie^> Trump has had no accomplishments in his first year
164125 [12:10:58] <WolF`> Roy Moore Says The Last Time America Was Great Was During Slavery
164225 [12:10:58] <^skunk``> he ddint canpaign in certain states 
164325 [12:11:02] <Globie^> aside from appointing a Supreme Court Judge
164425 [12:11:21] <Globie^> Wolf - and yet, the people are Alabama are going to vote for him
164525 [12:11:22] <^skunk``> hillary doesnt know how to campaign for elec college
164625 [12:11:32] <^skunk``> shes not very clever.
164725 [12:11:51] <Globie^> people of Alabama
164825 [12:12:05] <WolF`> the majority of americansw did not vote for trump
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165025 [12:12:53] <^skunk``> hypothetical figure cos trump ddnt waste time campaigning in california etc cos hes smart 
165125 [12:13:06] <^skunk``> hillary is stupid
165225 [12:13:06] <P-1^> alabama...whats wrong with those people?......havent they embarrassed themselves enough in the past 150 years?
165325 [12:13:12] <Globie^> Wolf - I saw a piece on tv somewhere that now, real estate agents are showing houses in largely conservative neighborhoods to conservative buyers.  So, we Balkanize further
165425 [12:14:08] <Globie^> P-1^ - they want to return to the days of slavery
165525 [12:14:12] <Globie^> I bet
165625 [12:14:48] <Catch_22> P-1^  inside the bubble they live in, they all agree ... nothing to be embarrased about (for them)
165725 [12:15:17] <WolF`> Fox News deletes misleading headline blaming Roy Moore accuser of “forgery”
165825 [12:15:42] <Catch_22> like the sweet home alabama retort song, to niel youngs southern man song;.
165925 [12:16:18] <Globie^> Wolf - I heard that while he did sign the yearbook, she wrote the note
166025 [12:17:02] <Catch_22> oh god, and i heard they had forensics come in, and verify it was his handwriting.
166125 [12:17:03] <^skunk``> Iraq declares war with Islamic State is over
166225 [12:17:18] <WolF`> Globie^, yes he did
166325 [12:17:54] <^skunk``> so she wrote the note ?
166425 [12:18:10] <Globie^> that's what a report on the news said, skunk
166525 [12:18:32] <Catch_22> Iraq is fooling itself ... but i suppose that plays well to their populace
166625 [12:18:57] <^skunk``> Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi told a conference in Baghdad that Iraqi troops were now in complete control of the Iraqi-Syrian border.
166725 [12:18:59] <WolF`> she added a note to moore's signiture
166825 [12:19:17] <^skunk``> well globie then that lady messed up real badly
166925 [12:19:40] <^skunk``> her credibility is now not very good 
167025 [12:19:49] <^skunk``> zero 
167125 [12:19:54] <Catch_22> it was her yearbook, she can write anything she wants in it : )
167225 [12:20:00] <WolF`> in the meantime, moore was calling the principal's office asking a girl half his age for a dage, who does something like this?
167325 [12:20:14] <WolF`> date
167425 [12:20:17] <greebo_Brat> ultimately though I've far more to worry about some twonk sitting in the whitehouse in the US
167525 [12:21:07] <^skunk``> by adding a note and claiming it was moore's means her allegations are useless
167625 [12:22:19] <Catch_22> we will not know the truth of it until it goes to court .... then a jury will decide.
167725 [12:22:39] <WolF`> ^skunk``, how do you figure that?
167825 [12:22:40] <^skunk``> in terms of holding territory isis is finished - now they will focus on terror attacks
167925 [12:22:48] <^skunk``> wont go to court 
168025 [12:22:58] <^skunk``> limitations in terms of time
168125 [12:22:58] <Globie^> it's not going to court
168225 [12:23:08] <DrRabbitfoot> it's not going to court, it happened 30 years ago
168325 [12:23:31] <^skunk``> wolf she messed up her credibiliy
168425 [12:23:42] <^skunk``> that was really stupid of her to do that 
168525 [12:23:45] <WolF`> ^skunk``, how so?
168625 [12:23:46] <Catch_22> oh ... well then we will never know.... I still think people are innocent until proven guilty.
168725 [12:23:56] <WolF`> she wrote the note at the time
168825 [12:23:59] <WolF`> lol
168925 [12:24:19] <^skunk``> when she presented teh book now - did she say that ?
169025 [12:24:39] <Globie^> Bezos made almost $2.4 billion on Friday alone. Bezos owns 78.9 million shares of Amazon, worth $93.6 billion. That doesn't account for all his holdings, although the two other highest-profile companies he owns -- The Washington Post and space tourism company Blue Origin -- don't move the needle much by comparison.Nov 24, 2017
169125 [12:24:54] <Catch_22> WolF`  they are claiming that she claimed that he wrote the note.  I don't think she did ever claim that. She claimed the signature was his.
169225 [12:25:17] <WolF`> the note is of no conscience, its been proven that is moore's signiture
169325 [12:25:24] <^skunk``> catch at that media conference what did she say about the note ?
169425 [12:25:35] <Globie^> oh, sorry
169525 [12:25:38] <^skunk``> did she clearly say she wrote the note ?
169625 [12:25:38] <WolF`> Catch_22, right, she never said he wrote the note she hadded
169725 [12:25:53] <^skunk``> she said she wrote it ?
169825 [12:25:57] <^skunk``> or said nothing ?
169925 [12:26:31] <Catch_22> you telling me what the definition of the word is is?
170025 [12:27:19] <WolF`> ^skunk``, the question is, why are you defending a pedophile?
170125 [12:27:29] <^skunk``> not defending moore
170225 [12:27:34] <^skunk``> i want to know the facts 
170325 [12:27:37] <DrRabbitfoot>  Text messages confirm Jeb Bush staffer @Timodc was behind the WaPo story on Roy Moore, per @BigLeaguePol
170425 [12:27:39] <DrRabbitfoot> https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/939194143661838336
170525 [12:27:43] <WolF`> you're not?
170625 [12:28:05] <^skunk``> if she said at the medai conference taht she wrote the note then shes got credibilty
170725 [12:28:07] <WolF`> sure sounds to me like you are trying to find a way to excuse moore's actions
170825 [12:28:14] <^skunk``> crap
170925 [12:28:32] <^skunk``> if not shes got fuck all credibilty and she fucked the whole thing up
171025 [12:28:38] <WolF`> and there are 13 other girls that came forward
171125 [12:28:47] <^skunk``> btw any pics of mooore ?
171225 [12:28:55] <^skunk``> lotsa pics of frankel lol
171325 [12:29:12] <^skunk``> she never said he wrote it 
171425 [12:29:22] <^skunk``> when she went to the media
171525 [12:29:26] <^skunk``> she 
171625 [12:29:29] <Catch_22> i thought the only point was that moore said he did not know her. And she produced a year book with his signature that was verified. That is the important point. The note whatever it says is irrelevant 
171725 [12:29:36] <^skunk``> she fucked it up
171825 [12:29:55] <^skunk``> she lied about the note 
171925 [12:29:59] <^skunk``> shes a liar 
172025 [12:30:04] <WolF`> another girl has come forward with a note that moore wrote her while she was in school
172125 [12:30:10] <^skunk``> haha
172225 [12:30:18] <^skunk``> shes a fucking liar
172325 [12:30:39] <^skunk``> she wrote the note 
172425 [12:30:49] <^skunk``> fuck all credibility
172525 [12:30:49] <WolF`> is it 14 girls that are lying or one scum pedophile lying?
172625 [12:30:57] <^skunk``> any pics ?
172725 [12:31:00] <WolF`> i believe the girls
172825 [12:31:10] <^skunk``> any pics ?
172925 [12:31:20] <^skunk``> frankel is on camera lol
173025 [12:31:48] <WolF`> how about two signatures
173125 [12:32:04] <WolF`> do you see anyone defending franken here?
173225 [12:32:47] <^skunk``> franken is a groping idiot
173325 [12:32:59] <Catch_22> well hell, alabaman's marry their freegin sisters and cousins and shit don;t they. They don't see anything wrong with pedophelia ... its normal there.
173425 [12:33:56] <Catch_22> so of course they will elect him ... he is a picture of alabaman nomalcy
173525 [12:34:06] <Catch_22> normalcy
173625 [12:34:23] <WolF`> how many women has accused trump of gropping them so far?
173725 [12:36:00] <^skunk``> wolf any pics?
173825 [12:36:16] <WolF`> pics of what?
173925 [12:38:19] <Catch_22> here is a song for trump .... "Richest man in babylon" by Theivery Corporation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7cv6sk4oEo
174025 [12:39:30] <WolF`> no company does business with trump anymoe w/o having the money up front
174125 [12:39:42] <WolF`> he never pays debts
174225 [12:40:29] <WolF`> he has stiffed everyone from high end lawyers to dishwashers he owes money to
174325 [12:43:24] <Globie^> and no American bank will lend him any money
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174525 [12:45:17] <WolF`> they havent for a long time
174625 [12:45:54] <krshna> Paul Craig Roberts: America Is "Walking Into Armageddon"
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174825 [12:47:31] <Globie^> Wolf - I read an article a while back about employees of Goldman Sachs not being about to even mention Donald Trump's name at work without getting frowned at
174925 [12:48:55] <WolF`> Globie^, no doubt, hes toxic
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175125 [12:50:38] <Catch_22> he is not a name you 'drop' in financial circles'
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176125 [13:33:18] <@rosco> http://www.journalistenwatch.com/2017/12/07/meuthen-schulz-gibt-es-endlich-zu-deutschland-soll-bis-2025-abgeschafft-werden/
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176825 [13:56:39] <@CowTippa> Tom Arnold claims his 'old friend' Leann Tweeden was 'groomed', coached and manipulated for WEEKS to bring down Al Franken with her 'grope' photo - and says he has 'proof'
176925 [13:56:40] <@CowTippa> Arnold claimed on Twitter that ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone was behind plot
177025 [13:57:00] <@CowTippa> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5161687/Tom-Arnold-claims-Al-Franken-accusation-smear-campaign.html
177125 [13:57:39] <@rosco> In Yurp these sexlibel cases would be laughed off the radar
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177725 [14:04:54] <nelliebrown> Shhh. You might say something Heyjude wouldn't like.
177825 [14:07:54] <Oakmill> Oh, the weather outside is frightful.....:)
177925 [14:09:39] <nelliebrown> yeah do forget to smile
178025 [14:10:21] <nelliebrown> watching the local news, and the woman who does the weather has one of those obnoxiously sugary-sweet and phony smiles and giggles
178125 [14:11:26] <nelliebrown> that's all thats expected of women these days. Is that they smile and act like they're happy
178225 [14:11:40] <nelliebrown> oh yeah, snd metoo
178325 [14:12:53] <nelliebrown> Jerry sandusky's kid got 3 to 7 years.
178425 [14:13:28] <nelliebrown> child sexual abuse abuse
178525 [14:13:33] <nelliebrown> like father like son
178625 [14:13:51] <nelliebrown> or should I just say from one American to another?
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178825 [14:15:32] <nelliebrown> you know, anyone who would demand that you shut your mouth about genocide would have no problem with demanding that you shut your mouth about child sex abuse
178925 [14:16:24] <nelliebrown> Globie
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179225 [14:17:39] <compdoc> the sex abuser supreme court justice Thomas
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179525 [14:17:55] <greebo_Brat> hmm, two federated state deal .. the confederated states of the levant
179625 [14:19:17] <nelliebrown> Judge Alex Kozinski, ninth circuit. six women.
179725 [14:19:43] <nelliebrown> hope there are photos. otherwise it's just a bunch of chit.
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180225 [14:24:23] <nelliebrown> "Me too!! oooh oh oh me too!!!" *fake giggle , hairtoss* "I didn't get speak of this for years. I didn't care who it also might be happening to. The important thing was that I was getting paid!" and because im zn american, and we don't care what kind of horrific shit's happening in our country.
180325 [14:24:43] <nelliebrown> "we know we had better shut up if we know what's good for us."
180425 [14:24:52] <nelliebrown> until the money dries up
180525 [14:25:15] <nelliebrown> aint that right Globie?
180625 [14:26:13] <nelliebrown> sexual abuse, pedophilia, sale of fetus body parts
180725 [14:26:16] <nelliebrown> genocide
180825 [14:26:24] <nelliebrown> its all good
180925 [14:26:52] <compdoc> and yet, life is better here than in the Middle East
181025 [14:27:33] <nelliebrown> lol. yeah well it must be, cuz that's what the man on the Telly tellz you
181125 [14:28:05] <compdoc> no, because thats what we see and experience. 
181225 [14:28:44] <nelliebrown> when was the last time u were in the middle east compdoc?
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181425 [14:30:37] <nelliebrown> 8 people a day overdosing on opiates in the state of Ohio. And a doctor says that the families are pressured to give up the overdose victims organs' for harvest
181525 [14:31:13] <nelliebrown> you hear any doctors over there in the Middle East talking about that kind of stuff happening, compdoc?
181625 [14:31:16] <compdoc> nelliebrown, Ive been to europe, and seen the refugees living in the streets of germany
181725 [14:32:24] <compdoc> if youre trying to say syria and all the other destruction going on in the ME isnt happening, thagt its just lies of the MSM, then youre full of shit
181825 [14:32:44] <nelliebrown> no
181925 [14:32:52] <nelliebrown> im not saying that
182025 [14:33:26] <nelliebrown> you know what though, at least those refugees living in the streets of Germany, at least their children aren't being poisoned into oblivion
182125 [14:34:19] <nelliebrown> but i wouldn't want to be in syria, ..
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182325 [14:35:10] <nelliebrown> cat's busy knocking down my Christmas ornaments
182425 [14:35:12] <compdoc> there are some small areas in the US lead and chems are a problem, but its not the whole US, and probably just as bad elsewhere
182525 [14:35:35] <nelliebrown> its the whole fucking US
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182725 [14:35:54] <nelliebrown> outside of a few pockets where the women are educated enough to know better.
182825 [14:36:07] <nelliebrown> and the Amish
182925 [14:36:32] <nelliebrown> yeah, im one of THOSE..
183025 [14:36:41] <nelliebrown> the one group of people that it's acceptable to hate
183125 [14:36:47] <@PlagueRat> you are amish ?
183225 [14:36:53] <nelliebrown> them ans especially their children
183325 [14:36:58] <@PlagueRat> using one of those non-electrical computers ?
183425 [14:37:02] <nelliebrown> piss off rat
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183625 [14:37:21] <compdoc> thats nonsense
183725 [14:37:40] <nelliebrown> don't forget to get giggle when you say that
183825 [14:37:54] <nelliebrown> -get
183925 [14:38:43] <nelliebrown> lol notow that bimbo on the local news is trying to look concerned. Because the story calls for it. But her face is like frozen into that phony smile
184025 [14:38:46] <compdoc> what does educated enough to know better mean? No vaccines? 
184125 [14:38:55] <nelliebrown> and she can't do it
184225 [14:39:51] <nelliebrown> gee compdoc what makes you ask that? Y'all should do fixate...
184325 [14:40:39] <compdoc> Im asking you to explain yourself. simple enough question
184425 [14:40:48] <psyclone> Trust the gov..they always know better than anyone
184525 [14:41:01] <nelliebrown> u don't need me to explain anything
184625 [14:41:13] <nelliebrown> u, too, can piss off
184725 [14:41:49] <@PlagueRat> lot of off pissing today... must be a front moving through
184825 [14:41:57] <compdoc> lol. another blowhard, spouting off about nothingburgers
184925 [14:42:01] <psyclone> Whiz kids
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185125 [14:47:14] <psyclone> I didnt get polio today..
185225 [14:47:29] <ZShurp> um, congrats
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185425 [14:48:13] <compdoc> theres always tomorrow
185525 [14:48:13] <nelliebrown> I didn't get sexually abused today. Woopty fucking do.
185625 [14:48:19] <nelliebrown> What a country!
185725 [14:48:22] <ZShurp> I didn't get struck by a meteor today.  But there's always tomorrow
185825 [14:49:35] <psyclone> im going to live another day..anyone else this optimistic?
185925 [14:50:18] <nelliebrown> psyclone yah
186025 [14:50:25] <ZShurp> I'll probably survive today, assuming Trump doesn't start WW3
186125 [14:50:33] <nelliebrown> lol
186225 [14:50:38] <ZShurp> Even if he does I'll probably be alive for at least a week before radiation poisoning sets in
186325 [14:51:05] <nelliebrown> this country is so messed up not even World War 3 could make it any worse
186425 [14:51:08] <psyclone> Take your iodine pills
186525 [14:51:47] <ZShurp> thyroid cancer?  I'm worried about my intestines melting out my ass, not cancer killing me 10 years later
186625 [14:52:21] <psyclone> Stop eating taco bell then
186725 [14:52:44] <ZShurp> ok, good point.  (1) Don't eat Taco Bell.  (2) Don't injest 10 Sv of radiation.
186825 [14:53:25] <ZShurp> Hmmm, that reminds me, I need to run a NUKEMAP simulation and see if a protection factor of 50 really can keep me alive if DC goes boom
186925 [14:55:37] <@PlagueRat> DC is downwind of me...
187025 [14:56:08] <ZShurp> OK, so who knows how to convert rads to sieverts?  1000 rads per hour sounds bad
187125 [14:56:10] <psyclone> So when trump farts..you know
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187325 [14:57:37] <ZShurp> "Whole body doses of more than 1,000 rad are almost invariably fatal." -- ok, so 1000 rad is about 10 sieverts... which means with a protection factor of 50 I can survive 50 hours.  Hmmm.  That's really not long enough.
187425 [14:58:08] <@PlagueRat> plenty long for me
187525 [14:58:12] <ZShurp> I need at least a week -- that'll be enough time for the fallout to dissipate substantially
187625 [14:58:40] <ZShurp> The good news is that I won't have to worry about looters.  Anyone outside will be dead
187725 [14:59:01] <psyclone> If u believe the gov estimates
187825 [14:59:48] <ZShurp> psyclone, do you believe gov claims that nuclear weapons exist?
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188125 [15:00:47] <psyclone> Not really..
188225 [15:00:58] <psyclone> Like the moon landings
188325 [15:01:08] <ZShurp> there ya go, so then my plans are perfectly adequate to protect against non-existent weapons
188425 [15:01:27] <@PlagueRat> here,  wrap yourself with special duct tape    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3M-420-Dark-Silver-Lead-Foil-Tape-1-width-x-5yd-length-1-roll/112592561912?epid=1021677098&hash=item1a370a26f8:g:a~IAAOSwVC1Z2JJT
188525 [15:01:29] <psyclone> They got better ways to killing ppl..cheaper too
188625 [15:01:57] <ZShurp> thanks PlagueRat, but I'm looking for protection against gamma rays, duct tape ain't gonna do it :-P
188725 [15:02:08] <@PlagueRat> ZShurp -  click the link
188825 [15:02:30] <compdoc> my plans to deal with global warming are to buy properties and rent them out
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189125 [15:03:20] <psyclone> Dang freemason lives 3 doors down
189225 [15:03:31] <@PlagueRat> compdoc -  I'm buying 1000 acres of land on the high rocky coast of greenland.   CHEAP.   
189325 [15:03:31] <psyclone> Im surrounded
189425 [15:03:50] <ZShurp> Yes, lead tape -- very good for stopping alpha and beta radiation.  Also, if I buy several PALLETS and apply 10,000 layers at a thickness of 1 meter it will stop gamma too
189525 [15:04:29] <compdoc> PlagueRat. good luck with that
189625 [15:04:30] <@PlagueRat> ZShurp -  how about buying old lead car batteries and stacking them   ?
189725 [15:04:33] <psyclone> Trump isnt a free mason..
189825 [15:04:40] <kmh_> l
189925 [15:04:51] <ZShurp> PlagueRat, damn, that's actually not bad, nice!  And I can use the duct tape to hold them together!
190025 [15:05:14] <psyclone> Chabadism is anti free mason i think
190125 [15:05:16] <compdoc> Trump is more of a free radical
190225 [15:05:21] <ZShurp> But the real problem I haven't figured out is how to keep all that from crashing down on my head when the basement ceiling buckles
190325 [15:05:25] <psyclone> So..i guess im ok with trump
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190525 [15:06:29] <psyclone> Only way to stop a free radical is a draft card
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190725 [15:07:06] <psyclone> Why dont women have to register for selective service?
190825 [15:07:14] <psyclone> Sexism i say
190925 [15:07:26] <greebo_Brat> if you're close enough to the initation of a nuclear device that the gamma rays are strong enough to kill you, you're going to be roasted / crushed by the fireball and pressure wave anyway
191025 [15:07:31] <psyclone> Like only men can fight wars?
191125 [15:07:52] <ZShurp> greebo_Brat, I'm not concerned about the explosion.  I'm concerned about the gamma from the fallout.
191225 [15:08:06] <greebo_Brat> depends if its an airburst or ground burst
191325 [15:08:15] <psyclone> Gamma rays can turn you into the hulk..given enough steroids
191425 [15:08:31] <greebo_Brat> airburst, minimal fallout (remenants of the device fissionable material that didnt go critical, bomb casing, etc, and any dust in the air) 
191525 [15:08:31] <ZShurp> DC is gonna be a ground burst, only way to get the East Wing bunker and the Pentagon basements
191625 [15:08:35] <psyclone> Icbms are airburts
191725 [15:08:46] <compdoc> you have to abuse a few starfish to create a hulk
191825 [15:09:06] <ZShurp> DC is going to be *several* ground bursts.  It'll be quite a mess
191925 [15:09:39] <psyclone> We have lasers that'll stop that
192025 [15:09:56] <ZShurp> lasers to stop non-existent nukes?  Why bother?
192125 [15:10:05] <@PlagueRat> The first thing that will happen in DC is that the several nuclear warheads in the Russian or Chinese embassy will go off...    
192225 [15:10:07] <psyclone> Expensive is why
192325 [15:10:11] <@PlagueRat> Warning time ???  HAH
192432 [15:10:24] greebo_Brat facepaws  
192525 [15:10:26] <greebo_Brat> oh boy
192625 [15:10:31] <psyclone> Like they went off at 911
192725 [15:10:58] <psyclone> No laser could stop dat
192825 [15:11:18] <compdoc> today, a smart country will use Neutron bombs
192925 [15:11:33] <greebo_Brat> against incoming ICBMs
193025 [15:11:34] <greebo_Brat> indeed
193125 [15:11:52] <psyclone> Tacit rainbow is what i helped develop..much better option
193225 [15:12:06] <psyclone> No more internet
193325 [15:12:19] <ZShurp> The best option is not to start a nuclear war in the first place
193425 [15:12:24] <greebo_Brat> (which is why they were originally developed) 
193525 [15:12:25] <psyclone> No more cellphones
193625 [15:12:58] <psyclone> Greebo..sorta..reagan really was concerned about AI taking control of nukes
193725 [15:13:10] <psyclone> He watched war games too many times
193825 [15:13:25] <psyclone> Shall we play a game ronny?
193925 [15:14:17] <psyclone> Seems to me..he was partially right
194025 [15:14:58] <psyclone> We have few tacit rainbows ready to be loaded though
194125 [15:15:22] <psyclone> But any b2 can load them
194225 [15:15:51] <psyclone> There are weapons caches all over the world with them
194325 [15:16:10] <psyclone> All i can say bout dat
194425 [15:16:35] <psyclone> Meanwhile..back at trump tower
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194825 [15:19:20] <@PlagueRat> The AGM-136A Tacit Rainbow was a United States military anti-radiation missile program run from 1982 to 1991.
194925 [15:19:56] <psyclone> My buddy we called them
195025 [15:19:57] <@PlagueRat> Below is a list of museums which have a Tacit Rainbow in their collection:
195125 [15:19:57] <@PlagueRat> Museum of Aviation, Robins Air Force Base, Georgia [1]
195225 [15:19:57] <@PlagueRat> National Museum of the United States Air Force, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio [2]
195325 [15:19:57] <@PlagueRat> U.S. Naval Museum of Armament & Technology, NAWS China Lake, California
195425 [15:21:02] <psyclone> They used one during desert storm..opening credits
195525 [15:21:18] <psyclone> It fries electronics
195625 [15:21:55] <psyclone> Saddam was like..hey my playstation is broked
195725 [15:23:05] <psyclone> 600 people in 1999 carried activation codes for tacit rainbow
195825 [15:23:15] <psyclone> Now less than 100 have them
195925 [15:24:53] <psyclone> And excalibur codes are even rarer
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196125 [15:25:10] <psyclone> Excalibur is what u use when tacit rainbow fails
196225 [15:25:35] <psyclone> Thats the protocol..called dead mans switch gambit option
196325 [15:26:33] <psyclone> Reagan understood the concept of failsafes
196425 [15:26:41] <psyclone> Trump..is clueless
196525 [15:27:18] <psyclone> Course now..its mostly nanotech
196625 [15:27:23] <psyclone> Hidden everywhere
196725 [15:27:26] <compdoc> trump is an idiot
196825 [15:27:44] <psyclone> Cameras smaller than a grain of sand
196925 [15:28:06] <psyclone> Radio tranmitters small than a grain of rice
197025 [15:28:10] <ZShurp> psyclone, you do realize nanobots have infected your brain and are programming you to type at this very second, right?
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197225 [15:28:27] <psyclone> I wouldnt b surprised
197325 [15:28:54] <psyclone> I have identified over 5 different types of nanotech systems in my home
197425 [15:29:09] <psyclone> I use a digital microscope to find them
197525 [15:29:24] <psyclone> They are very odd pieces of engineering..
197625 [15:29:26] <compdoc> lol
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197825 [15:29:36] <psyclone> Part machine..part bio engineering
197925 [15:29:51] <psyclone> Im serious
198025 [15:30:02] <psyclone> I have films of these things
198125 [15:30:03] <compdoc> show us a pic of a nanobot, or it didnt happenn
198225 [15:30:07] <greebo_Brat> nanobots programmed you to laugh, compdoc
198325 [15:30:32] <psyclone> I dunno who or how they are made
198425 [15:30:43] <psyclone> I assume the gov.corps
198525 [15:30:54] <psyclone> But..im not sure..some suggest alien tech
198632 [15:30:55] compdoc slaps and abuses greebo_Brat because the nanobots made me
198725 [15:31:23] <psyclone> Seems like raytheon could have made some
198832 [15:31:32] ZShurp is an advanced AI chatbot running in Beijing that *believes* he is a human living in delaware
198925 [15:31:35] <psyclone> But ikm just not sure
199032 [15:31:39] greebo_Brat shoots compdoc in self defence ;P  
199125 [15:31:48] <ZShurp> I have about 2 petaflops of processing power
199225 [15:32:08] <psyclone> U underestimate the level of tech that the gov.corps have
199325 [15:32:36] <psyclone> They are about 50 years ahead of the current tech
199425 [15:32:56] <psyclone> And use it to gain an advantage to preserve the elite
199525 [15:34:13] <psyclone> We had virtual reality systems  online in 1989
199625 [15:34:36] <psyclone> While  the public didnt even know what it was
199725 [15:35:00] <compdoc> psyclone, just say no to cocaine this early in the am
199825 [15:35:11] <psyclone> Which reminds me..
199925 [15:35:26] <passpatout> psyclone... no one keeps a secret for 50 years
200025 [15:35:27] <passpatout> not in the US
200125 [15:35:34] <passpatout> not when there is money to be made off it
200225 [15:35:40] <passpatout> occam's razor
200325 [15:35:58] <psyclone> They make money keeping us uninformed
200425 [15:36:03] <psyclone> Tons of it
200525 [15:36:05] <passpatout> you are in possession of videos that you don't know wht source, can't vouch for the validity and yu go down that path of its a conspiracy
200625 [15:36:07] <passpatout> that's silly
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200825 [15:36:28] <passpatout> that is nothing more than paranoid conspiracy
200925 [15:36:48] <landy78> well he is a paranoid conspirator, so --
201025 [15:36:56] <passpatout> and to think that after 5o years of keeping such secrets you just happen to have access to them is even crazier
201125 [15:37:09] <psyclone> So what if im am?..does that mean i'm wrong?
201225 [15:37:19] <passpatout> yes it does
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201425 [15:37:44] <passpatout> you evidence is non existence and your paranoia does not stand the test of rationality
201525 [15:37:46] <passpatout> your
201625 [15:37:51] <passpatout> existent
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201825 [15:38:01] <psyclone> I wish pass..i was wrong
201925 [15:38:24] <passpatout> psyclone if you now disappear permanently after saying these things in a monitored forum I will reconsider
202025 [15:38:34] <passpatout> I'll say bye to you now in case you are disappeared
202125 [15:38:41] <landy78> psyclone this is irc, if you can't back up your claims, they're just textual noise.
202225 [15:38:45] <passpatout> but obviously you feel yourself at no risk
202325 [15:38:53] <psyclone> I am allowed to speak to a certain extent
202425 [15:38:53] <passpatout> again.. occam's razor
202525 [15:39:04] <passpatout> if you truly believed this you would know yourself at risk
202625 [15:39:05] <psyclone> Oh i know i am at risk
202725 [15:39:18] <psyclone> But im stupid this way
202825 [15:39:23] <passpatout> so instead of going to the media you come to IRC
202925 [15:39:29] <passpatout> yep.. I agree you are stupid 
203025 [15:39:30] <psyclone> I care more about people than myself
203125 [15:39:39] <passpatout> sure you do
203225 [15:39:50] <passpatout> IRC is the place where breaking news happens all the time
203325 [15:39:50] <psyclone> I have.lost most self preservation protocols
203425 [15:39:58] <passpatout> if you have evidence you can access the media
203525 [15:40:04] <compdoc> I care more about my dogs than I do most ppl
203625 [15:40:07] <psyclone> Its the only platform i can use
203725 [15:40:09] <passpatout> they are dying to verify stories like your's
203825 [15:40:10] <passpatout> why?
203925 [15:40:23] <psyclone> They control the media
204025 [15:40:27] <passpatout> I'll give you links to news organizations which will protect your identity
204125 [15:40:30] <psyclone> They dont control irc
204225 [15:40:32] <passpatout> oh for heaven's sake
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204425 [15:40:38] <passpatout> they don't control IRC
204525 [15:40:39] <passpatout> rofl
204625 [15:40:49] <psyclone> Not this outpost
204725 [15:40:54] <passpatout> honestly naive doesn't describe your nonsense
204825 [15:40:58] <psyclone> This is nowhere to them
204925 [15:41:06] <passpatout> believe that if you want
205025 [15:41:08] <psyclone> Not worth the effort
205125 [15:41:27] <passpatout> they manage to tap phones, surveillance but they just missed IRC
205225 [15:41:29] <passpatout> ROFL
205325 [15:41:33] <psyclone> And i am just another loony
205425 [15:41:48] <passpatout> your story is not even consistent
205525 [15:41:52] <passpatout> so run along
205625 [15:41:57] <psyclone> Yes..as said..its not worth the effort
205725 [15:41:58] <passpatout> santa needs a letter
205825 [15:42:17] <passpatout> the mother ship is coming for you
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206225 [15:43:36] <psyclone> you don't have to believe me please don't insult me
206325 [15:43:53] <passpatout> I tried to reason with you
206425 [15:43:54] <PureVirgin> hello
206525 [15:43:56] <passpatout> that failed
206625 [15:44:06] <passpatout> you insult the rest of us with your bullshit
206725 [15:44:09] <PureVirgin> is this world news channel?
206825 [15:44:10] <psyclone> I will suggest you get your own digital microscope and search for these things yourself
206925 [15:44:37] <passpatout> I suggest your digital microscope would do you more good turned upon  yourself and your paranoia and the reasons for it
207025 [15:45:30] <psyclone> you think I'm stupid why would you even waste your effort
207125 [15:45:32] <kmh_> https://www.petaasia.com/news/nearly-nude-maggie-q-says-spice-up-your-life-go-vegetarian/
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207325 [15:46:52] <compdoc> PureVirgin, I think they used to have world news stories posted in here with a bot. but its mainly political 'discussions'
207425 [15:47:09] <passpatout> I care more about other people
207525 [15:47:30] <psyclone> you have a funny way of showing it
207625 [15:49:26] <passpatout> I don't hear you laughing
207725 [15:49:58] <fkt> this is the sound of me laughing on irc
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207925 [15:50:07] <psyclone> I think I may have been too sarcastic for you to appreciate
208025 [15:50:56] <psyclone> perhaps you are intimidated by my knowledge
208125 [15:51:03] <PureVirgin> I was just curious
208225 [15:51:06] <PureVirgin> about world news
208325 [15:51:21] <PureVirgin> of there are any news in the world at all
208425 [15:51:24] <compdoc> theres always the MSM
208525 [15:51:49] <psyclone> the news of today is rather dull
208625 [15:52:48] <Redeye^> https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fiscal-entitlements/u-s-tax-revamp-still-incomplete-as-republicans-eye-social-program-cuts-idUSKBN1E22MD
208725 [15:53:56] <PureVirgin> us tax?
208825 [15:54:02] <PureVirgin> those aren't world news
208925 [15:57:21] <psyclone> I was raised as a pickpocket but then I went to college as a psychologist so now I pick at people's minds
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209125 [15:59:40] <heythere> moving the news industry away from its click bait advertising model, ICO launching soon http://bitcoinist.com/presscoin-takes-up-the-fight-against-fake-news/
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209525 [16:20:00] <landy78> Kathryn Rossetter performed eight times a week with the star in 'Death of a Salesman' � but, she writes, a dream job soon became "a horrific, demoralizing and abusive experience at the hands (literally) of one of my acting idols." 
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209725 [16:24:29] <landy78> this supposedly happened in 1983, and he's now 80 years old. so i'm just curious, "no" didn't mean "no" in 1983? or maybe a good kick in a certain place against unwanted advances
209825 [16:25:19] <landy78> Rossetter concluded her essay by calling Hoffman a man who �abuses his power and is a pig to women,� arguing his alleged behavior is swept under the rug by too many. �It was a long time ago,� she said. �This is not the red badge of courage I have worn for 32 years. I buried it deep. I am a tough dame� now.
209925 [16:25:41] <landy78> I continue to read the accolades pouring forth for him: Generous to a fault, kind, best man to work with. Women are overly sensitive to dirty jokes. Toughen up, ladies, etc. There is no denying I learned an enormous amount from him about acting. He was generous in the many presents he gave us and the many parties he threw. He can do all that and still be a man who manipulates, abuses his power and is a pig to women. They are not mutually exclusive.�
210025 [16:25:56] <WolF`> “There are Thousands of Us”: Mental Health Professionals Warn of Trump’s Increasing Instability
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210325 [16:32:55] <JuanaTaco> CNN Issues HUGE Retraction After Reporting Fake Story ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ4a7ppUvCM
210425 [16:33:38] <AAAman> JuanaTaco-- When did Trump issue retraction for hundreds of fake stories?
210525 [16:33:44] <greebo_Brat> breaking news, Klingon Imperial forces have not invaded Spain, I repeat, Klingon imperial forces have not invaded spain
210625 [16:34:28] <AAAman> JuanaTaco- supports the Liar In Chief
210725 [16:35:58] <landy78> JuanaTaco are you emotionally invested in trump? lol
210825 [16:35:58] <JuanaTaco> What support? I didn't vote for him.
210925 [16:36:15] <AAAman> JuanaTaco is Trump closet supporter
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211225 [16:36:44] <landy78> it was an error to which the CNN admitted. there's no sign of malicious intent  http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364080-white-house-seizes-on-another-cnn-error-as-trump-intensifies-attacks
211325 [16:38:33] <@CowTippa> Tom Arnold claims his 'old friend' Leann Tweeden was 'groomed', coached and manipulated for WEEKS to bring down Al Franken with her 'grope' photo - and says he has 'proof' - Arnold claimed on Twitter that ex-Trump adviser Roger Stone was behind plot -- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5161687/Tom-Arnold-claims-Al-Franken-accusation-smear-campaign.html
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211525 [16:42:37] <WolF`> group of psychiatrist begging congress to have trump mentally evaluated, danger to himself and others
211625 [16:44:14] <fkt> neuroimaging on his brain will require an electron microscope
211725 [16:44:50] <Oakmill> WolF`: if he is only a danger to himself, I'm OK with that.
211825 [16:45:44] <Oakmill> fkt: if they do a brain scan on Trump, they will be scanning for a week or more.
211925 [16:45:45] <WolF`> Oakmill, crazy man with his finger on the red button
212025 [16:46:33] <fkt> :
212125 [16:46:36] <fkt> :D
212225 [16:47:13] <heythere> let him go nuts ... he won't be allowed to nuke anything .. and folk will switch to alternative money where ever he causes strife
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212425 [16:47:46] <Globie^> hi
212525 [16:48:40] <WolF`> must watch >> “There are Thousands of Us”: Mental Health Professionals Warn of Trump’s Increasing Instability https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZ3meubJUQ
212625 [16:53:20] <greebo_Brat> not very professional if they are doing diagnosis remotely ;P 
212725 [16:53:46] <Globie^> I opened my DSM-5 the other day and read the whole description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  It describes Trump to a tee
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213125 [16:59:19] <WolF`> Globie^, i read the book The Sociopath Next Door, the first paragraph describes trump excatly
213225 [16:59:54] <kmh_> WolF`, so is trump your neighbour?
213325 [17:00:18] <WolF`> kmh_, dont be silly
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213525 [17:00:28] <kmh_> just wondering
213625 [17:00:49] <kmh_> trump's mental is similar to a year from what i can see
213725 [17:00:56] <heythere> he is right there next to you, on the internet .. tweeting
213825 [17:01:42] <kmh_> he got elected as a moron and he govern as a moron unless his mental state gets so bad that he needs a legal guardian
213925 [17:02:08] <kmh_> heythere, probably not about central consensus though :-P
214025 [17:02:27] <kmh_> i heard he tweeting some shite this morning
214125 [17:02:29] <heythere> well, tell that to Bernie and Hillary :D
214225 [17:03:38] <WolF`> its after 12pm, you know what that means
214325 [17:04:29] <AAAman> Robert S. Mueller III’s Russia probe, which has already secured guilty pleas from two Trump campaign officials and the indictments of two more, is part of a system that is “rigged,” “phony,” “dishonest” and using a “double standard.”
214425 [17:06:30] <WolF`> trump said in his speech that the system is rigged, well no shit donald, you are president
214525 [17:07:50] <AAAman> But if we’re going to declare “biased” those who gave money to Democrats, then Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Steven Mnuchin, Gary Cohn and the president himself are biased against Trump. Also, if Mueller had inquired about political leanings before making hires, he would have violated Justice Department rules.
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214725 [17:12:35] <kmh_> did you see that news line?
214825 [17:12:54] <kmh_> historical documents discovered in Jesus' butt
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215625 [17:30:28] <barathron> WolF` its getting amusing as Trump criticizes agency after agency of which he is the leader 
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215825 [17:31:06] <WolF`> A Third Of Republicans DO NOT Want Trump To Run Again 2020
215925 [17:31:32] <@swin> just wait til he attend opening for civil rights museum.. that should be rich
216025 [17:31:40] <WolF`> barathron, i cant think of one he hasnt critized
216125 [17:31:44] <barathron> swin already happened this morning
216225 [17:32:06] <@swin> did he get a clue?
216325 [17:32:24] <WolF`> According to a new poll, close to one-third of Republicans in the United States are on the “anybody but Trump” bandwagon, and they do not want to see him run again on their ticket in 2020. If Trump has zero support from Democrats and only 60-ish percent of Republicans, that will make it very hard to win the White House, assuming he hasn’t been impeached by then. 
216425 [17:32:33] <barathron> swin in reading his speech about civil rights leaders he seemed as though he was learning of them all or the first time 
216525 [17:32:53] <@swin> i can understand that.. pre written speech
216625 [17:33:54] <WolF`> Economist Warns That Republican Tax Plan Could Kill 10,000 People A Year
216725 [17:34:25] <kmh_> WolF`, as intended
216825 [17:36:50] <barathron> WolF` if they're dead they won't be needing insurance
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217125 [17:38:22] <WolF`> Whiny Millionaires Beg Trump To Give Them Even More Tax Breaks
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217325 [17:44:50] <AAAman> People close to him estimate that Mr. Trump spends at least four hours a day, and sometimes as much as twice that, in front of a television, sometimes with the volume muted, marinating in the no-holds-barred wars of cable news and eager to fire back.
217425 [17:45:24] <AAAman> He believes passionately that the liberal left and the media are out to destroy him. The way he got here is fighting back and counterpunching
217525 [17:47:02] <AAAman> Trump made a derogatory reference to Native Americans in front of Navajo guests, insinuated that a television host was involved in the death of an aide and prompted an international incident with Britain by retweeting inflammatory anti-Muslim videos — demonstrating the limits of a staff
217625 [17:49:05] <^skunk``> aaaaman has trump been impeached yet ?
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217925 [17:52:53] <Globie^> skunk - next year
218025 [17:52:58] <barathron> Diversity is not our strength. Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, “Mixing cultures will not lead to a higher quality of life but a lower one.” https://t.co/ZlMXzcc87w  -  Tweet by GOPster Steve King (R) Iowa  December 8, 2017
218125 [17:53:02] <^skunk``> ah yes next year.
218225 [17:53:24] <^skunk``> will be like paddy who sent a text msg to his wife 
218325 [17:54:38] <^skunk``> globie - paddy sent a text to his wife mary - i'm just having a beer in the pub i'll be home in half an hour, if i'm not home in half an hour read this text msg again 
218425 [17:54:46] <^skunk``> same with trumps impeachment
218525 [17:55:27] <Globie^> skunk - Mueller is not spinning his wheels - the investigation is moving along
218625 [17:55:43] <^skunk``> sure.
218725 [17:55:49] <barathron> Donnie Dotard feels the walls closing in faster these days
218825 [17:56:17] <Globie^> barathron - yes, the investigation is getting close to his finances
218925 [17:56:18] <barathron> <^skunk``>	sure. <- 2 guilty pleas, 2 more sets of indictments
219025 [17:56:25] <WolF`> barathron, which they are
219125 [17:56:29] <barathron> Globie^ and his family
219225 [17:56:39] <Globie^> right
219325 [17:57:05] <Globie^> ok, lunch time
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219525 [17:57:23] <thymos^> <thymos^> https://theconversation.com/women-preferred-for-stem-professorships-as-long-as-theyre-equal-to-or-better-than-male-candidates-49411
219625 [17:57:23] <barathron> Globie wait until Don Jr and Kushner's legal interests don't align with Donnie Dotard's... then things will get really interesting 
219725 [17:57:23] <thymos^> <thymos^> Women less often apply for STEM positions - but when they do, they're more likely to be interviewed and more likely to be hired...
219825 [17:57:27] <barathron> bah
219925 [17:58:09] <WolF`> so far the investigation is playing out pretty much the same as the watergate investigation did
220025 [17:58:38] <WolF`> fist the low hanging fruit then move up the tree
220125 [17:58:39] <barathron> WolF` one major difference, Nixon didn't have family involved 
220225 [17:59:24] <WolF`> knowing flynn has spilled the beans
220325 [17:59:29] <AAAman> Jared Kushner, his son-in-law and senior adviser, has told associates that Mr. Trump, deeply set in his ways at age 71, will never change.
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220825 [18:00:32] <AAAman> Kelly is trying, quietly and respectfully, to reduce the amount of free time the president has for fiery tweets by accelerating the start of his workday
220925 [18:01:15] <WolF`> trump is not a normal human being, you cant judge him by that measure, its what i saw a psychiatrist saying earlier about his mental health
221025 [18:01:35] <AAAman>  When three former campaign advisers were indicted or pleaded guilty this fall, Ty Cobb, the White House lawyer handling the investigation, urged the president not to respond. If he did, it would only elevate the story.                         Mr. Trump, however, could not help himself
221125 [18:02:03] <WolF`> he could throw a fit and order a nuclear strike at any time for any reason
221225 [18:03:44] <AAAman> According to a senator and an aide, the president then looked around the room and asked puckishly, “Aren’t you glad I don’t drink?”
221325 [18:04:40] <heythere> meanwhile : Bitcoin futures make their debut Sunday. Everything about bitcoin is controversial : https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-futures-heres-what-you-need-to-know-2017-12-09
221425 [18:06:02] <heythere> let trump be mad :D ... let him cause strife and political upheaval ... folk are switching off the dollar, slowly but relentlessly
221525 [18:07:01] <greebo_Brat> the sec defence would have to agree
221625 [18:07:30] <greebo_Brat> two man rule that while only the president can order the realse of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified by the sec of defence to be an authentic order.
221725 [18:10:33] <barathron> greebo_Brat "The United States has a two-man rule in place at the nuclear launch facilities, and while only the president can order the release of nuclear weapons, the order must be verified by the Secretary of Defense to be an authentic order given by the president (there is a hierarchy of succession in the event that the president is killed in an attack). This verification process deals solely with verifying that the order came
221825 [18:10:33] <barathron>  from the actual President. The Secretary of Defense has no veto power and must comply with the president's order"  https://goo.gl/ZxBVAr
221925 [18:10:57] <@swin> that's consultation only.. why sec defense stated he'd try to dissuade the president
222025 [18:11:09] <AAAman> In September, he met with evangelical leaders to reassure them that he would still pursue their agenda despite a flirtation with Democrats.   “The Christians know all the things I’m doing for them, right?” he asked, 
222125 [18:13:05] <AAAman> From there it is off to bed for what usually amounts to five or six hours of sleep. Then the television will be blaring again, he will reach for his iPhone and the battle will begin anew.
222225 [18:14:23] <greebo_Brat> not according tothe wording
222325 [18:14:37] <heythere> meanwhile : Litecoin Approaches $200 in Monster Rally : https://themerkle.com/litecoin-approaches-200-in-monster-rally/
222425 [18:14:55] <greebo_Brat> I order , the sec of defence verifies I have issued a legit order, if sec of defence disagrees, he refuses to do so
222525 [18:15:09] <heythere> let any dear leader even dare suggest a serious nuke launch
222625 [18:16:57] <barathron> greebo_Brat  "The Secretary of Defense has no veto power and must comply with the president's order"  https://goo.gl/ZxBVAr
222725 [18:17:20] <tzipsaway>  If Trump claimed the moon was made of Swiss cheese, McDaniel would be mocking anyone who said it was actually Camembert.  lol!
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222925 [18:18:52] <@swin> if sec of defense disagrees with order, the president can fire him.. he has no veto power.. that is the president's power only
223025 [18:19:27] <greebo_Brat> if he refuses then its a political issue, firing him and trying to find another person who will say yes would likely lead to further blocks
223125 [18:19:47] <barathron> And how pathetic is it we're hoping on generals and the sec of defense to make sane decisions... the same positions who brought you Vietnam and Iraq wars
223225 [18:20:10] <@swin> greebo_Brat no block to it.. say yes or get fired.. move on to the next 'sec'
223325 [18:20:24] <@swin> we have numerous people on the list
223425 [18:20:32] <AAAman> swin -- President could fire him, but Senate could refurse to confirm a replacement
223525 [18:21:00] <@swin> he can be an acting sec..until replacement found
223625 [18:21:09] <WolF`> new poll shows the gop has lost ALL latino voters
223725 [18:21:22] <tis> 100% of them are GONE
223825 [18:21:29] <greebo_Brat> nah, sorry
223925 [18:21:35] <tis> they’re all going to march into the whitehouse and teabag him
224025 [18:21:42] <greebo_Brat> I think people are just happy to believe what ever nonsense enforces their preconceptions
224125 [18:21:49] <@swin> chairman of joint chiefs of staff will simply appoint the dep sec..
224225 [18:22:03] <tis> greebo_Brat: This is the core business model of american media:)
224325 [18:22:25] <AAAman> swin -- Likely Courts would affirm the next in line who was affirmed by the Senate to be in control
224425 [18:22:47] <greebo_Brat> which all boils down to the US political discourse largely being "the other side are poopyheads" 
224525 [18:22:55] <@swin> like we'd have time for that AAAman lol
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224925 [18:28:43] <AAAman> Department of Defense Directive 5100.01 describes the organizational relationships within the Department, and is the foundational issuance for delineating the major functions of the Department. The latest version, signed by former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates in December 2010, is the first major re-write since 1987.[24][25]
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225125 [18:31:33] <AAAman> By delegation, the Deputy Secretary of Defense has full power and authority to act for the Secretary of Defense and to exercise the powers of the Secretary of Defense on any and all matters for which the Secretary is authorized to act pursuant to statute or executive order.[1] The Deputy Secretary is first in the line of succession to the office of Secretary of Defense.
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225425 [18:39:00] <WolF`> Civil rights and community leaders: Trump doesn't deserve to attend museum opening
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225825 [18:43:01] <^skunk``> cnn got caught out for fake news oops
225925 [18:50:53] <juan-> ted turner is a cuck
226025 [18:51:59] <^skunk``> CNNPR changed it from gross negligence to extremely careless.
226125 [18:52:06] <@PlagueRat> ^skunk`` -  yes...  it could have been a typo,  or a deliberate fake.  Sort of like when Fox showed the correct numbers on a graph of unemployment under Obama,  but the curve went the wrong way.  
226225 [18:52:55] <^skunk``> not sure if these "mistakes" are just co-incidence
226325 [18:53:12] <@PlagueRat> But you will undoubtably be happy to use this as "proof" of Trumpolini's assertion that anything critical of him is FAKE NEWS.   "You must get ALL your news through me.  I give great news.  The best."
226425 [18:53:50] <juan-> PlagueRat: enjoy your tax cuts and robust economy -- from out president to you -- you're welcome!
226525 [18:53:53] <^skunk``> “Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. “ Paul Simon, 
226625 [18:56:01] <@PlagueRat> juan- -  you silly person...   you are going to discover that you're going to get it shoved up your ass by the rich...
226725 [18:56:28] <landy78> does this sound like fake news? -- President Donald Trump drinks 12 cans of Diet Coke and watches as much as eight hours of TV per day, according to a new report in The New York Times.
226825 [18:57:32] <juan-> landy78: yeah there is no bias in reporting done by the new york times
226925 [18:57:36] <juan-> no bias at all
227025 [18:57:42] <landy78> "we report, you decide"  https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
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227225 [18:58:49] <juan-> PlagueRat: why is it always poor and middle class people complaining about tax cuts? oh i get it now! they stand to lose money because they don't pay ANYTHING IN TAXES
227325 [18:59:05] <juan-> now i get why those who pay no taxes complain about tax cuts
227425 [18:59:08] <juan-> it all makes sense now
227525 [18:59:36] <juan-> the bottom 60% pay what the top 2% pay in taxes in this country
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227725 [19:00:40] <@PlagueRat> juan- -  the tax cuts includes incentivizing industry to replace less efficient means of production with modern automation.  They get to write off a huge chunk in the first year, and accelerate the rest of the amortization over just a few years... if they choose.       Does that sound good to you ?
227825 [19:03:01] <landy78> sure it sounds good to him, the less fortunate are "untermesch"
227925 [19:03:17] <WolF`> middle class and poor pay not tax, what country do you live in?
228025 [19:04:04] <@PlagueRat> Yes...   it includes the word "efficient".   What it means is that there is now increased incentives to FIRE American workers and buy foreign robots to do the work.   "WIN - WIN"   except for the working class.  There it's  "LOSE LOSE"
228125 [19:04:49] <landy78> if you weren't born in a gated community and didn't inherit a few millions from daddy, tough luck, but that's how god wanted it
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228425 [19:06:13] <landy78> �It has not been easy for me. And you know I started off in Brooklyn, my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.�
228525 [19:06:37] <landy78> which is the equivalent of 12 millions today btw
228625 [19:07:26] <Oakmill> landy78: he also fails to reveal how much he inherited when his father died.
228725 [19:07:30] <juan-> the more the new york times lies in their reporting the higher their readership numbers are
228825 [19:07:47] <juan-> the new york times is incentivized to lie
228925 [19:07:52] <Oakmill> juan-: cite a NY Times lie.
229025 [19:08:01] <landy78> omg   "that" i did not know -- turns trump had also inherited 200 millions from his father
229125 [19:08:11] <Oakmill> landy78: yup
229225 [19:08:22] <landy78> yea   i just looked that up
229325 [19:08:51] <Oakmill> landy78: REALLY tough when one inherits $200 million....:)
229425 [19:09:01] <landy78> lol Oakmill i'd say
229525 [19:09:19] <juan-> Oakmill: take your pick http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-the-new-york-times-lying-about-trump-19290
229625 [19:09:38] <Oakmill> If the fool had dumped that $200 million into Wall St. he would be as well off as he is now..
229725 [19:10:41] <WolF`> polls showing that if the election were held today, trump would loose by the biggest margin in history
229825 [19:10:51] <Oakmill> juan-: strange.  There are no lies cited there.
229925 [19:11:15] <landy78> poor suckers in the rust belt thought trump would serve "their" interests. sure
230025 [19:11:56] <Oakmill> juan-: that is simply an article ACCUSING the Times of lies, but it cites no lies.
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230225 [19:13:21] <JuanaTaco> Accusation is all that is required these days. To date there has not been a single witness who has provided a single piece of  evidence supporting collusion coordination or conspiracy.
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230425 [19:13:46] <landy78> JuanaTaco what kind of evidence would suffice
230525 [19:13:58] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: to date, the investigation is far from over.
230625 [19:14:02] <WolF`> Woman With Stage 4 Cancer Thrown Out Of Town Hall After Asking Republican About Healthcare
230725 [19:14:44] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: as you know, much is NOT revealed until completion of an investigation.
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231025 [19:15:19] <landy78> as far as i know, in the US people get convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time, and there's plenty implicating evidence of collusion against trump
231125 [19:15:21] <WolF`> juan-, there is no doubt collusion took place, but this is not about collusion, its about obstruction of justice
231225 [19:15:39] <JuanaTaco> Not revealed?  Including Peter Strzok?
231325 [19:15:57] <JuanaTaco> On Nov 7, 2017 The Judiciary Committee reveals that Peter Strzok edited Hillary Clintons exoneration documents on May 2, 2016, weeks before her interview. The result was Comey Used "Extremely Careless", Not "Gross Negligence", in reference to Hillary in his July 5, 2016 press release
231425 [19:16:05] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: Strzok is not part of the collusion investigation.
231525 [19:16:42] <JuanaTaco> Ohhhhh. Ok Oakmill.  You are surely correct.
231625 [19:16:45] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, why do you support trump, how is he good for the country?
231725 [19:17:30] <WolF`> JuanaTaco??
231825 [19:17:40] <JuanaTaco> Peter Strzok Interviewed Flynn.
231925 [19:17:55] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, tell me how i am better off under trump?
232025 [19:18:22] <WolF`> JuanaTaco??
232125 [19:18:33] <JuanaTaco> You're not.  The problem is not who sits on the throne.  The throne is the problem.
232225 [19:19:00] <WolF`> then how come you are defending trump?
232325 [19:19:20] <landy78> The sharp and steady increase in US inequality in recent decades has been well documented. Less attention has been paid to a potentially even more important and alarming trend � a decline in US social mobility.
232425 [19:19:37] <landy78> so if you weren't a millionaire before trump, you'll die a poor man
232525 [19:19:44] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, is it because your parents are republican?
232625 [19:19:55] <JuanaTaco> Defending Trump or defending PROPER, uncorrpted Rule of Law?
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232825 [19:20:21] <landy78> JuanaTaco what kind of america do you want to live in?
232925 [19:20:43] <WolF`> but you have not explained why you support trump
233025 [19:21:02] <JuanaTaco> Wolf. I owe you no explanation of anything.
233125 [19:21:02] <WolF`> we know the system is rigged, that does not mean trump is good for america
233225 [19:21:08] <landy78> i'm sorry, but when people fish for something, anything, to excuse or justify trump, they're trumpers
233325 [19:21:13] <WolF`> so you want say?
233425 [19:21:29] <WolF`> wont say
233525 [19:21:41] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: the language was changed because the FBI did not feel that any crime was committed. "Extremely negligent" is a basis for legal charges.
233625 [19:22:29] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: the language was changed to properly reflect the decision of the FBI.
233725 [19:22:31] <WolF`> surely you have an ideological reason for supporting the gop
233825 [19:22:41] <AAAman> JuanaTaco== You want us to forget Trump Jr emails?
233925 [19:22:52] <JuanaTaco> Muellers investigation is imploding, but time will tell.
234025 [19:22:57] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, so you refuse to say why you support trump?
234125 [19:23:13] <AAAman> JuanaTaco-- You want us to forget Trujmp firing Comey to stop the investigation
234225 [19:23:16] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, why do you want it to implode?
234325 [19:23:21] <Oakmill> Mueller's investigation is doing fine.  On what basis do you claim it is imploding ?
234425 [19:23:22] <JuanaTaco> Wolf. I don't feel I do.
234525 [19:23:31] <landy78> The report, entitled "The Decline in Intergenerational Mobility After 1980" finds "mobility declined sharply for cohorts born between 1957 and 1964 compared to those born between 1942 and 1953."
234625 [19:23:41] <AAAman> JuanaTaco-- suffers from memory dysfunction
234725 [19:23:45] <landy78> the GOP has killed the american dream
234825 [19:23:59] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, yeah but why not, this is just irc, no reason to not express your feelings on the matter
234925 [19:24:11] <JuanaTaco> Mueller chose former Wilmer Cutler lawfirm partner Andrew Weissmann as his 1st  deputy.  Not everyone is a Weissmann fan. Sidney Powell, a federal prosecutor who is  past president of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, wrote an opinion piece  in The Hill that said, in part, that Weissmann “is not just a ‘tough’ prosecutor.  Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s 
235025 [19:24:11] <JuanaTaco> most touted ‘victories’ for his  tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law. Weissmann, as deputy and  later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of  Arthur Andersen LLP and its 28,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years  later by a unanimous Supreme Court.” ... http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/andrew- weissman-weissman-m
235125 [19:24:13] <JuanaTaco> ueller-investigation-lawyer-attorney/
235225 [19:24:17] <Oakmill> The biggest fault I find in conservatives is that they seem to think their opinions translate into fact.
235325 [19:24:30] <landy78> "One of the most notable changes in the US economy in recent decades has been the rise in inequality. A key inflection point in inequality appears to be around 1980. It was during the early 1980s that there was a pronounced increase in the 90-10 income gap and a sharp rise in the income share of the 1%."
235425 [19:24:42] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, you blast us everyday with pro trump urls, why do you do this?
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235625 [19:25:06] <AAAman> Al Franken resigns his Senate post, while Trump and Republicans double down on their support for Roy Moore for t...\
235725 [19:25:59] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, if you are wealthy, its ok, we get that, trump is great for the wealthy, is that the reason?
235825 [19:26:10] <Oakmill> AAAman: the Dems set the perfect trap for the GOP.  Now that Franken has resigned, all they need ask is "When will Roy Moore be honorable and do the same?"
235925 [19:26:12] <landy78> are you wealthy JuanaTaco?
236025 [19:26:27] <landy78> anyways. Reaganomics is based on the theory of supply-side economics. It states that corporate tax cuts are the best way to grow the economy. When companies get more cash, they should hire new workers and expand their businesses.  It also says that income tax cuts give workers more incentive to work, increasing the supply of labor. That's why it's sometimes called trickle-down economics. 
236125 [19:26:29] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, i can think of no other reason any sane person would be pro trump
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236325 [19:26:38] <JuanaTaco> Don't fret over me.
236425 [19:27:07] <landy78> the GOP has been horrible for america's middle class
236525 [19:27:12] <Oakmill> JuanaTaco: I don't see anyone fretting.  However, I DO see you refusing to answer the questions.
236625 [19:27:20] <landy78> trump is worse than even the GOP
236725 [19:27:21] <WolF`> JuanaTaco, is it that you like poking the establishment in the eye?
236825 [19:27:39] <WolF`> landy78, indeed
236925 [19:28:53] <Oakmill> Since the RNC continues to support Moore financially, that caused me to decide that I will NEVER again vote for a GOP candidate, even if the office in question is local dog catcher.
237025 [19:29:28] <WolF`> Oakmill, how low can they get?
237125 [19:29:45] <WolF`> gop down to supporting pedophiles
237225 [19:29:52] <Oakmill> WolF`: they have not far to go to reach flat level with the ground.
237325 [19:30:05] <landy78> when did they turn into a party of fundies and pedos
237425 [19:30:38] <landy78> there must have been a shifting point
237525 [19:31:49] <Oakmill> MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Stand Up Republic, a 501(c)4 group co-founded by former independent anti-Trump presidential candidate Evan McMullin, is spending $500,000 on digital and TV ads that ask Alabama conservatives to reject Republican nominee Roy Moore’s Senate bid.
237625 [19:32:11] <Oakmill> I guess there ARE some sane conservatives.....:)
237725 [19:32:38] <WolF`> landy78, they did that when the powell memo was published
237825 [19:32:48] <WolF`> that started it all
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238025 [19:33:04] <landy78> wolf what powell memo? iraq?
238125 [19:33:09] <WolF`> thats when the gop sold its soul to the devil
238225 [19:33:16] <WolF`> no, google it
238325 [19:33:29] <WolF`> its too much to explain here
238425 [19:34:12] <landy78> the lewis powell memo. i see
238525 [19:36:58] <heythere> Andreas deserves this, without his lectures and his book, many would not know the details of how this tech works : Why People Are Giving This Man Almost $2 Million in Free Bitcoin : http://fortune.com/2017/12/08/bitcoin-prices-anton-antonopoulos-rich/
238625 [19:38:54] <landy78> heythere your beloved bitcoin is a ponzi scheme
238725 [19:39:41] <heythere> keep repeating that banker shill crap ... hasn't worked to destroy it so far
238825 [19:40:09] <heythere> meanwhile the ledger is open to all, unlike a ponzi scheme
238925 [19:40:18] <WolF`> heythere, you have to know this is a bubble
239025 [19:41:01] <heythere> bitcoin has had many 'bubbles' .. it exists within the other national currencies ... it survived all of them
239125 [19:41:08] <WolF`> there is a place for bitcoin but is the recent run up justified?
239225 [19:41:32] <heythere> i remember when it went to $1700 then back down to $150 .. the ledger was still valid
239325 [19:41:55] <WolF`> at one time it was 1 cent
239425 [19:42:09] <WolF`> like landy78 said, its a ponzi scheme
239525 [19:42:14] <heythere> it started at ZERO dollars
239625 [19:42:48] <heythere> the ledger is open, available to all to verify .. unlike a ponzi, man, these banker shills
239725 [19:42:52] <WolF`> w/o new investors, it has no value, a ponzi scheme
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239925 [19:43:06] <heythere> meanwhile we get leaks about big corps off shoring to avoid tax?
240025 [19:43:21] <WolF`> the only thing backing it is greed
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240225 [19:43:27] <heythere> yeah right .. ponzi ponzi, bubble bubble ... the tech is open
240325 [19:44:09] <WolF`> well i hope you cash out as a millionair
240425 [19:44:13] <heythere> ledger is open
240525 [19:44:30] <heythere> its way deeper then money, money is just the first app
240625 [19:44:38] <heythere> ;)
240725 [19:44:59] <@CowTippa> Wow. 71% of Germans now say 'the US cannot be trusted'.  https://twitter.com/RikeFranke/status/939168258468564994
240825 [19:45:50] <heythere> the need for trust in a central authority is massively reduced with this tech ... consensus is much more secure then the US gov election system
240925 [19:46:01] <heythere> its way deeper then money, money is just the first app
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241225 [19:49:05] <heythere> there are no laws or govs forcing people to use it, they are FREE to choose, use it or not ... and the security of the ledger is still there, and its verification open to everyone
241325 [19:50:26] <WolF`> i have nothing against bitcoin per se, just i wouldnt touch it
241425 [19:50:59] <heythere> shrug .. you are free to do that
241525 [19:52:09] <heythere> meanwhile : Ethereum Price May Break $500 Resistance on the Road to New All-Time High : https://themerkle.com/ethereum-price-may-break-500-resistance-on-the-road-to-new-all-time-high/
241625 [19:53:17] <WolF`> i heard one economist saying that bitcoin could reach 1 million when the crash comes
241725 [19:53:24] <heythere> choice ... folk now have globaly available choice, which does not depend on any dear leader or gov or large corp .. so let trump go nutz cause strife, we will see how the cookie crumbles
241825 [19:54:23] <heythere> Ethereum is a contract system that can do way more then just money, but uses the same ideas that appeared in bitcoin for consensus security
241925 [19:54:23] <barathron> WolF` the bottom would fall out before it could reach those levels as people would cash out massively 
242025 [19:54:35] <heythere> its way deeper then money, money is just the first app
242125 [19:54:50] <WolF`> barathron, hes assuming all currency will become worthless
242225 [19:55:16] <barathron> he doesn't sound like much of an economist :P
242325 [19:55:29] <WolF`> Congress wants to drug test you for being unemployed
242425 [19:55:31] <heythere> exchange rates are just because these things exist in the already HUGE incumbent money systems run by govs and central banks, where folk are forced to use a 'national currency'
242525 [19:55:49] <AAAman> <CowTippa> Wow. 71% of Germans now say 'the US cannot be trusted'.  https://twitter.com/RikeFranke/status/939168258468564994
242625 [19:56:11] <tzipsaway> And they're right, aren't they.
242725 [19:56:14] <tzipsaway> the Germans
242825 [19:56:29] <WolF`> sure they are
242925 [19:56:45] <tzipsaway> Makes a body sad, that does.
243025 [19:56:46] <AAAman> heythere-- Govt influence exchange rates, but with a freely floating currency it cannot determine the rate
243125 [19:56:49] <heythere> no need for anyone to 'trust' some far away gov for this money to work
243225 [19:57:15] <AAAman> heythere-- There are a multitude of factors determining such an exchange rate
243325 [19:57:31] <heythere> govs have 'legal tender'
243425 [19:57:52] <AAAman> heythere-- Speculators have bet against goverments and made fortunes
243525 [19:57:57] <barathron> one thing people tend not to think about... no power grid, no bitcoin 
243625 [19:58:11] <WolF`> AAAman, soros for example
243725 [19:58:13] <heythere> lots of people tried to do this before bitcoin, but they all failed cause they setup central companies to manage the ledger ... as soon as they started to grow, gov killed them
243825 [19:58:17] <barathron> so when the shit hits the fan, good luck cashing or exchanging your bitcoins
243925 [19:58:24] <WolF`> barathron, exactly
244025 [19:58:57] <WolF`> bitcoin consits of a piece of computer code
244125 [19:58:59] <heythere> we will see :D .. its gona be an adventure .. so yeah .. let trump go nutz
244225 [19:59:06] <AAAman> heythere-- Simple answers to complicated questions
244325 [19:59:30] <barathron> WolF` also your reliant on your wallet... hard drive takes a shit, tough luck 
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244525 [19:59:39] <fkt> why does every conversation get derailed into bitcoins in this channel?
244625 [19:59:41] <WolF`> nothing wrong with owning some bitcoin
244725 [19:59:46] <barathron> no, not at all
244825 [19:59:55] <barathron> but don't put all your cash into it heh
244925 [19:59:57] <heythere> well, it hit 17k ... :D .. and without any central banker
245025 [20:00:08] <WolF`> barathron, i think your wallet is also stored on the server
245125 [20:00:16] <barathron> WolF` depends
245225 [20:01:08] <AAAman> heythere-- investing on exchange rate futures is like playing poker
245325 [20:01:23] <barathron> WolF` there are different kinds 
245425 [20:01:32] <heythere> its way deeper then money, money is just the first app ... at its heart its to do with consensus and how we secure that
245525 [20:01:34] <WolF`> yeah
245625 [20:01:53] <barathron> WolF` some do rely and solely trust their wallet to their own hardware 
245725 [20:01:57] <heythere> and ooooooh look ... massive but really crap investigation into consensus security fails in the US elections
245825 [20:02:01] <AAAman> heythere-- Interest rates have substantial influence on the exchange rate
245925 [20:02:15] <AAAman> heythere-- go predict interest rates
246025 [20:03:02] <heythere> think about it ... the statement 'Alice paid Bob, 10 units of money at Time T' ... how do you prove that happened? without alice or bob being trusted either one of them can lie
246125 [20:03:18] <heythere> its way deeper then all that AAAman 
246225 [20:03:50] <barathron> heythere how do you prove that happened? <- the blockchain records every single transaction 
246325 [20:03:52] <heythere> exchanges for example are SERVICES built on top of the money system in bitcoin, they CANNOT modify the ledger
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246525 [20:03:57] <Globie^> hi
246625 [20:04:24] <barathron> yo yo Globie^ 
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246825 [20:05:21] <heythere> barathron, the proof involves reaching a consensus ... in the old money systems that eventually relied on a 'trusted authority' to verify the ledgers, however IF (and they did) that authority gets corrupted the ledger becomes corrupted too
246925 [20:05:45] <barathron> heythere I was referring to bitcoin
247025 [20:05:50] <Globie^> snowing
247125 [20:06:00] <heythere> with bitcoin the ledger is secured via a 'proof of work' algorithm .. miners have to expend a whole bunch of energy to secure it
247225 [20:06:02] <AAAman> heythere- Of course it is -- But interest rates reflect the health of an economy
247325 [20:06:18] <WolF`> Globie^, thats what you get for living north of the canadian border
247425 [20:06:38] <heythere> and the miners cannot modify the ledger unless they expend a HUGE amount of compute power and energy .. which is not economically viable
247525 [20:06:47] <barathron> <heythere>	with bitcoin the ledger is secured via a 'proof of work' algorithm <- its called the blockchain  
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247725 [20:07:13] <heythere> no that is called mining, the block chain is where the transaction data once verified is stored
247825 [20:07:18] <Globie^> Wolf - not quite
247925 [20:07:40] <heythere> blocked are said to be 'mined' .. and transactions are only valid once mined
248025 [20:07:46] <heythere> blocks
248125 [20:07:46] <barathron> heythere there is no "ledger", its called the blockchain
248225 [20:07:49] <AAAman> heythere-- As smart as you believe those are who imposed safeguards on bitcoin, the crooks are just as smart too and will test if
248325 [20:07:52] <barathron> heythere keep up ;-)
248425 [20:07:56] <WolF`> Globie^, close tho
248525 [20:08:06] <heythere> ledger is just the generic word, the block chain is a ledger of transactions
248625 [20:08:35] <Globie^> Wolf - yes, I'm close to the border
248725 [20:08:35] <barathron> <heythere>	ledger is just the generic word <- well using "Ledger" makes you look like you haven't a clue of what you speak
248825 [20:08:46] <AAAman> heythere-- If the crooks can hack banks, why not bitcoin?
248925 [20:09:02] <WolF`> Bernie: “If I Run in 2020.. It Would Be Within The Democratic Party”
249025 [20:09:14] <Globie^> oh geeze, we need someone new
249125 [20:09:17] <Globie^> not Bernie
249225 [20:09:36] <heythere> i used that word cause its less esoteric then 'blockchain'
249325 [20:09:44] <heythere> but its only a word ...
249425 [20:09:47] <barathron> AAAman because the blockchain thus far has been impossible to alter or hack... wallets on the other hand, not so much as we have seen with thefts from multiple wallet services
249525 [20:09:55] <AAAman> heythere-- In the financial world seconds of part of a second counts before a hack is discovered
249625 [20:10:07] <WolF`> its imperative that we get bernie
249725 [20:10:13] <barathron> the weakness of bitcoin isn't the blockchain, its the wallets
249825 [20:10:25] <heythere> in the computer world, things work in nano seconds, a second is an eternity
249925 [20:10:25] <barathron> but wallets are up to the individual
250025 [20:11:29] <heythere> but the basic thing to think about is ... the statement 'Alice paid Bob, 10 units of money at Time T' .. how to prove that, when neither alice not bob are trusted and without a central authority to be trusted
250125 [20:11:48] <AAAman> And all commodities have a history of being manipulated, even legally
250225 [20:12:21] <barathron> heythere when neither alice not bob are trusted  <- then the transaction wouldn't take place on the blockchain and there would be no transfer of bitcoins
250325 [20:12:30] <heythere> That problem was solved by bitcoin for communication systems like the internet and it represents a new form of 'money' ..
250425 [20:12:38] <AAAman> Who is going to stop speculation?
250525 [20:12:59] <heythere> well, baratron by the time it gets into the blockchain its already verified
250625 [20:13:16] <AAAman> heythere-- verified speculation
250725 [20:13:26] <heythere> no one is going to stop speculation .. folk speculate, they always have always will, its not about that
250825 [20:13:45] <AAAman> heythere-- verified speculation -- investors are able to play on other investors emotions
250925 [20:13:48] <barathron> <heythere>	well, baratron by the time it gets into the blockchain its already verified <- if its verified then your scenario you presented is not the case ->	<heythere> when neither alice not bob are trusted
251025 [20:14:07] <barathron> heythere someone "not trusted" is not verified 
251125 [20:14:09] <AAAman> heythere-- Dollar speculation is much more limited
251225 [20:14:19] <heythere> its about reaching a consensus about what actually happened, did alice pay bob? or did she lie?  and  did bob receive the payment or is he lying
251325 [20:14:21] <barathron> heythere the transaction can't take place 
251425 [20:14:36] <AAAman> heythere- Dollar is managed to some extent to prevent wild speculaton
251525 [20:14:45] <AAAman> heythere-- Who manages bitcoin
251625 [20:14:46] <barathron> <heythere>	its about reaching a consensus about what actually happened <- which is the EXACT POINT of the blockchain 
251725 [20:15:11] <AAAman> heythere-- Fed steps in to manage the dollar from time to time
251825 [20:15:40] <heythere> the blockchain is where the data is stored AFTER a consensus has been reached .. the mining is the consensus process, but both are needed yes
251925 [20:15:52] <AAAman> Full faith of credit of US Govt stands behind the dollar == who stands behind bitcoin
252025 [20:16:23] <@PlagueRat> right now, the USA is in debt, and is run by a lunatic wearing a squirrel
252125 [20:16:37] <heythere> in bitcoin, the latest blocks are said to be amenable to change of consensus .. but anything 6 blocks down is said to be concrete, consensus reached
252225 [20:17:01] <AAAman> Not only US Govt stands behind the dollar, but various other governments and international agenencies back the dollar
252325 [20:17:22] <heythere> the blockchain can and does 'fork' naturally .. but then reaches a consensus, in bitcoin this is the 'longest blockchain' the one with the most proof of work
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252525 [20:17:48] <heythere> you guys must have heard if hard forks and soft forks and all that .. those are consensus processes
252625 [20:18:31] <AAAman> heythere-- If I am buying something with bitcoins next week , what will the price be? The price varies so much I have no idea of the price
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252825 [20:19:24] <barathron> I think its funny some exchanges have begun bitcoin options... what a way to lose your shirt bigtime lol
252925 [20:19:30] <barathron> or shorting
253025 [20:19:47] <barathron> could loose so much more than you put up
253125 [20:20:02] <barathron> imagine shorting bitcoin last week haha
253225 [20:20:10] <barathron> you'd have had daily margin calls
253325 [20:20:20] <heythere> so AAAman there are 3 consensus really, the one you are talking about is usually called consensus 1, the consensus about what 'value' it has, the second is what barathron is saying 2: consenus about transaction history and double spending as recorded in the blockchain, the third consensus is consensus about rules and regulations, this is the core code, and its an opens ource model with bitcoin
253425 [20:20:21] <barathron> you'd be so underwater 
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253625 [20:20:42] <heythere> ALL three consensus must work together to have 'money'
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253825 [20:24:41] <barathron> Today North Korea described Donnie Dotard as "mentally deranged dotard" and well... they ain't wrong :/
253925 [20:25:37] <Globie^> what is this "dotard" business?
254025 [20:26:18] <barathron> dotard |ˈdōdərd|  noun   an old person, especially one who has become weak or senile.
254125 [20:26:30] <AAAman> heythere-- The value of bitcoin is all over the place -- and all your posts prove nothing
254225 [20:27:38] <AAAman> bitcoin bubble
254325 [20:27:43] <WolF`> barathron, are the fires out yet?
254425 [20:27:53] <barathron> WolF` nope
254525 [20:28:02] <barathron> the Thomas fire is only 15% contained
254625 [20:28:21] <WolF`> that sux
254725 [20:28:25] <barathron> bigtime
254825 [20:29:01] <WolF`> the last draught caused these fires
254925 [20:29:08] <AAAman> Why would anyone use a currency who value varies greatly
255025 [20:29:19] <heythere> the value of the dollar is all over the place with respect to bitcoin .. echange rates are relative ... so ask what is 1 dollar worth in bitcoin, not the other way round, you get a volatile dollar .. its just that the dollar economy is HUGE, incumbent, hundred years of transactions and folk default to it
255125 [20:29:33] <heythere> but the ledger in bitcoin is SECURE .. and with a central bank
255225 [20:29:35] <heythere> without
255325 [20:29:35] <WolF`> AAAman, its not to be used a currency
255425 [20:29:46] <AAAman> heythere-- Dollar is relatively  stable
255525 [20:29:50] <WolF`> not atm anywayt
255625 [20:30:01] <barathron> <heythere>	the value of the dollar is all over the place with respect to bitcoin <- I think you said that backwards. SHould have been: <heythere> the value of bitcoin is all over the place with respect to the dollar
255725 [20:30:11] <WolF`> i cant buy beer with bitcoin
255825 [20:30:11] <AAAman> WolF`- Then what is it used for?
255925 [20:30:13] <heythere> its acting as a reserve at the moment, its yet to achieve a 'unit of account' status .. but that is coming .. let trump cause trouble all over the place ;)
256025 [20:30:33] <WolF`> AAAman, ponzi scheme
256125 [20:30:36] <AAAman> Dollar is now the worlds reserve currency
256225 [20:30:54] <AAAman> Dollar is now the worlds reserve currency because it so huge and stable
256325 [20:30:54] <WolF`> AAAman, not for long, the yaun is catching up fast
256425 [20:30:57] <barathron> <heythere>	its acting as a reserve at the moment <- not even remotely close to that. Do you know what a reserve currency is? 
256525 [20:31:10] <heythere> sure ... but that requires a HUGE military
256625 [20:31:18] <heythere> not proof of work or anything like that
256725 [20:31:22] <AAAman> WolF`-- China will first have to change its economy drastically
256825 [20:31:46] <WolF`> AAAman, they are now backing the petroyaun with gold
256925 [20:31:49] <heythere> china tried to ban exchanges FAILED ..
257025 [20:31:53] <barathron> heythere  "A reserve currency is a currency that is held in significant quantities by governments and institutions as part of their foreign exchange reserves. ... It is often considered a hard currency or safe-haven currency."
257125 [20:31:59] <heythere> but they banned google and amazon
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257425 [20:32:15] <barathron> heythere there is not enough bitcoin in circulation to be a reserve currency 
257525 [20:32:27] <AAAman> WolF`-- Chinese economy can be the biggest, but it is still a black box 
257625 [20:32:38] <barathron> and banks and gov't certainly are not holding it en masse for currency exchange
257725 [20:32:58] <heythere> a decentralised reserve currency is held by ordinary folk not govs or central banks .. and if the gov fails .. NO, they cannot take folks money by adjusting a ledger somewhere or suspending accounts
257825 [20:33:05] <AAAman> Wolf -- do you trust the Chinese banks and currency 
257925 [20:33:17] <heythere> you guys must remember what happened in cyprus?
258025 [20:33:18] <Zeno> The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened
258125 [20:33:18] <WolF`> AAAman, just a matter of time
258225 [20:33:37] <WolF`> AAAman, the petroyaun? yes
258325 [20:33:38] <barathron> heythere so do tell... how do you access your bitcoins when the power goes out? ;-)
258425 [20:33:41] <AAAman> WolF`-- China has to have an open economy 
258525 [20:33:45] <heythere> you go to the ATM ... nope, you cannot draw out money .. suspended account
258625 [20:34:28] <WolF`> AAAman, why?
258725 [20:34:29] <seleus> heythere is bitcoin safe?
258825 [20:34:30] <heythere> well if the power goes out all over the world, how do you cook food, if that happens we got more bigger issues then what bitcoin is
258925 [20:34:37] <heythere> sheesh
259025 [20:34:42] <seleus> i have some money
259125 [20:34:46] <AAAman> Wolf -- because the value of the yuan has to be determined
259225 [20:34:53] <WolF`> AAAman. this idea that capitalism is the only economy is false
259325 [20:35:10] <WolF`> AAAman, they are backing it with gold
259425 [20:35:14] <heythere> seleus, its only as safe as how secure your private keys are .. you give your private keys away, you lost your money
259525 [20:35:45] <WolF`> china has played the west like a 2$ banjo
259625 [20:35:48] <AAAman> WolF`-- As much as believe the US is hiding stats about its currency and economy, it is wide open compared to CHia
259725 [20:35:50] <heythere> for new users ... ask about private keys ... anyone managing your bitcoin, ask how private keys are secured and what happens if they are lost
259825 [20:36:08] <seleus> ty
259925 [20:36:31] <heythere> bullshit AAAman  .. i dare you to post a verifiable ledger (independently verifiable by anyone here) from the fed res
260025 [20:36:32] <WolF`> china has a planned ecomony and its working like gangbusters for them
260125 [20:36:35] <AAAman> WolF`-- Capitalism and markets depend on a large degree of freedom
260225 [20:36:55] <AAAman> heythere-- Fed is audited
260325 [20:37:11] <WolF`> the fed is another scam
260425 [20:37:12] <heythere> they also depend on security .. the issue is how to do security without killing freedom
260525 [20:37:17] <heythere> as far as capitalism goes
260625 [20:37:19] <BillyTheKid> yup WolF`
260725 [20:37:24] <barathron> <heythere>	you go to the ATM <- cuz ATM work on magic and not electricity? 
260825 [20:37:28] <seleus> WolF` it is the ecenter of capitalism
260925 [20:37:33] <AAAman> heythere-- investors put their money where their mouth is -- you do not
261025 [20:37:47] <heythere> if the electricity dies world wide, you have bbigger issues then what bitcoin is .
261125 [20:38:23] <heythere> and you really think that is gona happen? maybe if trump nukes the world?   lol .. ridiculous arguement
261225 [20:38:45] <barathron> <heythere>	if the electricity dies world wide, you have bbigger issues then what bitcoin is . <- yes, and you'll need currency more than ever... but won't be able to access a virtual currency 
261325 [20:38:51] <kmh_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdM9fk5Ih8g&list=PL02E3F00E48EF0D23&index=16
261425 [20:38:54] <barathron> unlike tangible assets
261525 [20:38:54] <heythere> oh yeah i do AAAman .. and again, you are stuck on consensus 1
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261725 [20:39:13] <greebo_Brat> socialism, a backward ideology created by primitive tribal people in response to rampant untempered plutocracy and inequality under law
261825 [20:39:41] <barathron> greebo_Brat so you see it born out of legitimacy? 
261925 [20:39:48] <heythere> i suggest you spark up a monero miner and figure out how that is working .. you might make money and realise what consensus 2 and 3 are
262025 [20:39:49] <barathron> a good cause gone wrong?
262125 [20:39:51] <BillyTheKid> well electricty mmay stay on but a major solar flare and much of bit cion data could be lost and with communications down it wont buy anything but my gold and whisky will
262225 [20:39:56] <Zeno> CNN is shit
262325 [20:40:11] <barathron> Zeno we look forward to your news network :) 
262425 [20:40:11] <WolF`> greebo_Brat, and those primitive tribal people were?
262525 [20:40:14] <Zeno> ZNN is the Leader in World News! We don't get dates wrong!
262625 [20:40:16] <barathron> howdy Zeno :P
262725 [20:40:24] <greebo_Brat> WolF`, humans
262825 [20:40:31] <greebo_Brat> from europe mostly
262925 [20:40:51] <BillyTheKid> most trusted news ZNN
263025 [20:41:03] <Zeno> WOOT!
263125 [20:41:12] <greebo_Brat> zathras news network
263225 [20:41:32] <barathron> ZNN -> http://www.zootopianewsnetwork.com/
263325 [20:41:33] <greebo_Brat> you are not the one .. no not the one .. 
263425 [20:41:35] <Zeno>  thanks to Democratic-loyal journalists and operatives who decree every Trump/Russia claim to be true without seeing any evidence, it�s certainly safe to say that many hundreds of thousands of people, almost certainly millions, were exposed to these false claims.
263525 [20:41:48] <WolF`> greebo_Brat, you know marx lived in london when he developed his economic theory, he and engels
263625 [20:41:59] <greebo_Brat> in the 1860s 
263725 [20:42:01] <barathron> Zeno as if that's any different than those that deny every claim?
263825 [20:42:01] <greebo_Brat> backward times
263925 [20:42:06] <barathron> Zeno Fake News!
264025 [20:42:11] <Zeno> No Russian Facebook ad or Twitter bot could possibly have anywhere near the impact as this CNN story had when it comes to deceiving people with blatantly inaccurate information.
264125 [20:42:51] <barathron> Trump’s ‘fake news’ mantra a hit with despots: Leaders or state media in at least 15 countries use the president’s favorite denunciation to quell dissent, question human rights violations. https://goo.gl/XYrnu3
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264425 [20:43:22] <seleus> Bitcoin is a speculative asset and people who invest in it do so at their own risk, the Bank of France Governor Francois Villeroy de Galhau warned on Dec. 1 after recent volatile trading.
264525 [20:43:23] <seleus> “We need to be clear: bitcoin is in no way a currency, or even a cryptocurrency,” Villeroy said in remarks made at a conference in Beijing, according to the Bank of France.
264625 [20:43:23] <seleus> “It is a speculative asset. Its value and extreme volatility have no economic basis, and they are nobody’s responsibility. The Bank of France reminds those investing in bitcoin that they do so entirely at their own risk,” he added.
264725 [20:43:24] <barathron> "In February, for example, Syrian President Bashar Assad brushed off an Amnesty International report that some 13,000 people had been killed at one of his military prisons by saying, “You can forge anything these days, we are living in a fake news era.”
264825 [20:43:31] <barathron> "In the Philippines, President Rodrigo Duterte has complained of being “demonized” by “fake news.” Last month, with Trump laughing by his side, he called reporters “spies.”
264925 [20:43:33] <Globie^> so, the deal is - anything you disagree with or don't like is..........fake
265025 [20:43:36] <BillyTheKid> fake news used to have a elogant name -propaganda
265125 [20:43:51] <barathron> "Over the weekend, a state official in Myanmar attracted notice when he said, “There is no such thing as Rohingya. It is fake news,” referring to the persecuted ethnic group."
265225 [20:43:54] <WolF`> Globie^, anymore thats it, it seems
265325 [20:44:32] <Globie^> Wolf - it's a destructive movement
265425 [20:44:39] <WolF`> dont like a story, label it fake, problem solved
265525 [20:45:02] <barathron> yup WolF` 
265625 [20:46:02] <BillyTheKid> we been fed propaganda for almost forever but now someone calls it fake news and everyone pays attention. had goebles known that he would have uswed the term
265725 [20:46:07] <barathron> Zeno ignores the fact that legitimate outlets make corrections, correct the record, admit errors... exactly as CNN did
265825 [20:46:17] <Globie^> Wolf - or, if you're accused of something, just deny it - then everything is ok
265925 [20:46:29] <WolF`> BillyTheKid, exactly
266025 [20:46:46] <Zeno> barathron  but they are not transparent about why they made the mistake and lied
266125 [20:47:07] <WolF`> Globie^, yeah agreed
266225 [20:47:17] <Zeno> barathron  who fed the lie to CNN?   
266325 [20:47:24] <barathron> Zeno as opposed to real fake news where the NEVER retract, double, triple down on lies 
266425 [20:47:25] <Globie^> "Tommy, did you eat the cookie??????"  "No, mom, I didn't eat the cookie."  "Oh, OK Tommy, it was probably a fake cookie"
266525 [20:47:45] <BillyTheKid> i am not admitting to anything till they have proof i did it not so0meone said so
266625 [20:47:52] <Zeno> barathron  who fed the lie to CNN?   
266725 [20:48:38] <Zeno> barathron  MSNBC and CBS also used the same sources to publish the lie
266825 [20:48:49] <barathron> Zeno True or False: CNN printed a full retraction and owned its mistake unlike bullshit outlets like InfoWare and Breitbart who double, triple down on lies 
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267025 [20:49:18] <Zeno> barathron  no CNN didn't. It was CNNPR.
267125 [20:49:24] <barathron> <Zeno>	barathron  MSNBC and CBS also used the same sources to publish the lie <- haha how would you know as you just admitted to not knowing CNN's sourcing
267225 [20:49:27] <barathron> lulz
267325 [20:49:43] <Zeno> barathron   https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/the-u-s-media-yesterday-suffered-its-most-humiliating-debacle-in-ages-now-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/
267425 [20:49:48] <barathron> <Zeno>	barathron  no CNN didn't <- bold faced lie
267525 [20:50:07] <barathron> Zeno  read it and weep ->http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/08/media/cnn-correction-email-story/index.html 
267625 [20:50:12] <barathron> CNN corrects story on email to Trumps about Wikileaks
267725 [20:50:16] <barathron> so, wrong again zeno
267825 [20:50:26] <Zeno> If you�re someone who thinks Trump�s attacks on the media are dangerous, then you should be first in line objecting when they act recklessly and demand transparency and accountability from them. 
267925 [20:50:36] <@PlagueRat> It's amazing how the people have flocked to Trump's mantra "Fake news from failing corporate news sources" and are not even willing to consider a balanced approach to evaluating the news.  "FAKE FAKE FAKE....."
268025 [20:50:48] <AAAman> Zeno -- Quoting Trump is the medias job
268125 [20:50:53] <kmh_> Zeno,  come on
268225 [20:51:04] <greebo_Brat> breaking news, romulan forces have failed to over run Canada! 
268325 [20:51:16] <AAAman> Zeno -- Have another sip of Trump Kool Aid
268425 [20:51:17] <kmh_> fake'n'take
268525 [20:51:25] <kmh_> fake'n'bake
268625 [20:51:50] <barathron> Zeno  and demand transparency and accountability from them.  <- odd you don't demand that of Breitbart, InforWars... CNN actuall admits it mistakes unlike them. 
268725 [20:51:56] <barathron> Zeno you bias is showing ;-)
268825 [20:52:16] <barathron> Zeno you chide CNN while ignoring right wing fake news sites who make a living on fake news 24/7
268925 [20:52:18] <barathron> odd that
269032 [20:52:35] barathron notes zeno once again exposes her Trump bias that she denies
269125 [20:52:39] <kmh_> Zeno, zip your fly, your bias is hanging out
269225 [20:53:04] <barathron> Zeno lets hear you bitch about Comet Ping Pong some for a change... True fake news that infowars still pushes lol
269325 [20:53:04] <Zeno> barathron  Info Wars and Prison Planets are fake news.
269425 [20:53:13] <barathron> Zeno odd you don't bitch about them
269525 [20:53:24] <barathron> far worse
269625 [20:53:31] <barathron> Zeno and breitbart?
269725 [20:53:56] <Zeno> barathron when I saw the Pizza thing whe it first came out, I was highly skeptical and pretty much figured it was  lame conspiracy theory
269825 [20:54:11] <Zeno> barathron  Breitbart is just another Drudge. 
269925 [20:54:12] <AAAman> Zeno --Amid backlash and boycotts, President Trump addressed an invitation-only gathering Saturday at the opening of the Mississippi Civil Rights Museum in Jackson — instead of speaking at the public opening ceremony.
270025 [20:54:17] <barathron> zeno odd you only mention it when I point it out
270125 [20:54:25] <Zeno> barathron  shrug
270225 [20:54:28] <barathron> zeno but you're all over CNN who retracts, admits error
270325 [20:54:31] <barathron> typical
270425 [20:55:42] <Zeno> barathron  funny you only mention Infowars etc but never mention CNN and the rest of corp media shit. See how it works both ways. But this comment is just to show how your argument is vapid.
270525 [20:56:02] <barathron> <Zeno>	barathron  funny you only mention Infowars etc but never mention CNN  <- what an idiotic statement, its been the topic of my conversation
270625 [20:56:04] <barathron> lol
270725 [20:56:18] <Globie^> people believe infowars?
270825 [20:56:34] <Zeno> barathron   want to count the number of false stories fom corp media about Russiagate and compare them to the lame right wing sites?
270925 [20:56:45] <BillyTheKid> Zeno its like the party thing they say what they want to hear and its fact but dissagree and its fake. well imo most is nothing more than spin and propaganda on all sides
271025 [20:56:48] <barathron> zeno I even posted the CNN retraction, you're full of shit per usual ;-)
271125 [20:57:00] <Zeno> Globie^  I have been to the InfoWars site once. It's full of conspiracy theories
271225 [20:57:07] <barathron> zeno have at it, report back in a year ;-)
271325 [20:57:26] <Zeno> barathron  her goes a short list
271425 [20:57:36] <Zeno> Russia hacked into the U.S. electric grid to deprive Americans of heat during winter (Wash Post)
271525 [20:57:44] <Zeno> An anonymous group (PropOrNot) documented how major U.S. political sites are Kremlin agents (Wash Post)
271625 [20:57:57] <Zeno> these are all false news from corp media
271725 [20:58:07] <Zeno> WikiLeaks has a long, documented relationship with Putin (Guardian)
271825 [20:58:16] <Zeno> A secret server between Trump and a Russian bank has been discovered (Slate)
271925 [20:58:17] <@PlagueRat> Zeno -- heat grid story based on misunderstanding.  Yes, one laptop was hacked.  Retraction came soon after
272025 [20:58:26] <Zeno> RT hacked C-SPAN and caused disruption in its broadcast (Fortune)
272125 [20:58:26] <barathron> zeno as has been pointed out to you repeatedly now, and what you wish to ignore so very much: Legitimate sources admit error, retract
272225 [20:58:34] <Zeno> Crowdstrike finds Russians hacked into a Ukrainian artillery app (Crowdstrike)
272325 [20:58:42] <@PlagueRat> Zeno - Russia has ADMITTED that they have made political sites that look like US sites
272425 [20:58:44] <Zeno> Russians attempted to hack elections systems in 21 states (multiple news outlets, echoing Homeland Security)
272525 [20:58:55] <Zeno> Links have been found between Trump ally Anthony Scaramucci and a Russian investment fund under investigation (CNN)
272625 [20:58:59] <barathron> enough spamming zeno... doesn't even help your point
272725 [20:59:10] <@PlagueRat> zeno - that was homeland securities fault.  They reported what DHS said...
272825 [20:59:19] <BillyTheKid> PlagueRat what ever happened top repoprters that had to check their facts or look for another line of work?
272932 [20:59:23] barathron notes zeno utilizes the very fake news she derides in her argument 
273025 [20:59:35] <Zeno> barathron  yes yes.. apologizing seems to be the very nature of establishment nuts to excuse wrongful behavior.... Yet Franken resigned LOL
273125 [20:59:46] <barathron> zeno try making some sens
273225 [20:59:48] <barathron> sense
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273425 [21:00:30] <Zeno> barathron  lets go back decades or more.... USS Maine sunk by bomb!   There are WMD in Iraq!
273525 [21:00:51] <barathron> Zeno obsfucate more! lol
273625 [21:01:02] <barathron> Lets talk about how mammals lied ot dinosaurs!
273725 [21:01:07] <barathron> lol
273825 [21:01:17] <@PlagueRat> BillyTheKid -  what happened?   instant communication.  It used to mean that getting a scoop meant that you were a day ahead of other sources publishing.  Now they have 5 minutes to get it on the web first...
273925 [21:01:39] <BillyTheKid> PlagueRat that makes sence 
274025 [21:02:00] <barathron> <BillyTheKid>	@PlagueRat what ever happened top repoprters that had to check their facts or look for another line of work? -> well for example -> Friday's correction is not the first high-profile error in recent memory for CNN. Earlier this year, the network retracted a story about former White House communications director Anthony Scaramucci. Three journalists, including the executive editor in charge of the network's new
274125 [21:02:01] <barathron>  investigative unit, resigned their positions after the publication of that story.  [CNN] https://goo.gl/ypx8Tv
274225 [21:02:09] <Zeno> PlagueRat  how many times must a corp media outlet be wrong before they lose their license?
274325 [21:02:20] <barathron> BillyTheKid now you're informed ;-)
274425 [21:02:28] <Zeno> PlagueRat   it took 8 accusers to get Franken to resign :)
274525 [21:02:28] <Globie^> why does the right focus on CNN, and not other news outlets, like newspapers?
274625 [21:02:48] <@PlagueRat> Zeno - "license" ?  You mean,  allow government to act as "fact checker" and shut them down if they don't like the "facts" they publish ???
274725 [21:02:55] <Globie^> the right never mentions Fox News
274825 [21:02:55] <barathron> <Zeno>	@PlagueRat  how many times must a corp media outlet be wrong before they lose their license? <- more dipshiitery... boradcast networks do not receive licenses... FAKE NEWS FROM ZENO ;-) 
274925 [21:03:24] <barathron> zeno newsflash: Individual stations receive broadcast licenses 
275025 [21:03:24] <Zeno> Globie^  and the left never mentions MSNBC.. It's all so partisan
275125 [21:03:31] <barathron> Happy to educate you again zeno ;-)
275225 [21:03:37] <Globie^> Zeno - yes
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275425 [21:04:10] <barathron> zeno got more facts to make up?
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275625 [21:04:32] <WolF`> Zeno, thats just not so, jimmy dore bashes msnbc everyday
275725 [21:04:59] <Zeno> WolF`  Jimmy yeah he does. :)
275825 [21:05:27] <WolF`> hes especially down on maddow
275925 [21:05:35] <Zeno> WolF`   Jon Streart bashed them all, but mostly bashed FOX. Niss him a lot
276025 [21:05:50] <Zeno> WolF`  well Maddow is pretty bad
276125 [21:05:58] <Zeno> Stewart^
276225 [21:06:02] <@PlagueRat> Zeno - would you like to head the government agency to root out unacceptably slack reporting and fake news and shut down the press that doesn't conform to your standards?  Or would you like Trump to appoint somebody like Roy Moore or Bannon ???
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276425 [21:06:18] <barathron> <Zeno>	WolF`   Jon Streart bashed them all, but mostly bashed FOX. <- wow, more bullshit... Stewart single handedly ended Crossfire on CNN 
276525 [21:06:23] <WolF`> he thinks as i do, that maddow is one of the reasons we have trump
276625 [21:07:04] <barathron> zeno clearly you know nothing about this -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
276725 [21:07:33] <Zeno> PlagueRat  it's pretty simple and a govt solution is not possible? Why?  Because the fifth estates is supposed to bring truth to power. But it is now, through corporate ownership on a very large scale, the power. So the govt is not goig to correct this. 
276825 [21:07:46] <@PlagueRat> "maddow is one of the reasons we have trump"  --  wow,  that's a really strange idea
276925 [21:08:04] <barathron> zeno if you've never watched that I think you would quite enjoy it
277025 [21:08:05] <@PlagueRat> Zeno - so what should we do about it ?
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277225 [21:08:34] <@PlagueRat> I thought the reason we have Trump is "comey, russia, wikileaks, and Bernie"
277325 [21:08:40] <@PlagueRat> bernie bros
277425 [21:08:42] <@PlagueRat> sexism
277525 [21:08:50] <Zeno> Maddow use to be a real progressive, But when she took the 7 million dollar a year job at MSNBC she went over to the dark side of the status quo, neoliberalism, and establishment
277625 [21:09:19] <juan-> the wife of bernie sanders is going to jail https://nypost.com/2017/12/08/fraud-probe-into-bernies-wife-could-ruin-his-hopes-for-2020/
277725 [21:09:23] <WolF`> maddow has her head buried in hillary's ass
277825 [21:09:23] <juan-> no bernie sanders in 2020 lol
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278125 [21:09:53] <Zeno> PlagueRat   it's correcting itself...... sort of... the internet is reducing the power of corp media, and corp media knows it. Why do you think they are pushing to remove Net Neutrality?
278225 [21:10:42] <@PlagueRat> Zeno - I admit that removing Net Neutrality is consistent with that viewpoint,  but I'm not sure it's the driving force behind the corporate greed 
278325 [21:12:16] <Zeno> PlagueRat  the two party system is basically a corporate run system. Corps lobby and really do write the bills i Congress. This cannot be reformed because the law makers have been bought by the corp lobbyists. The system is broken where it cannot be reormed. It must be replaced.
278425 [21:12:50] <WolF`> Zeno, right!
278525 [21:13:15] <WolF`> it well be replaced, just a matter of when
278625 [21:13:23] <Zeno> WolF`  I think so too
278725 [21:15:07] <WolF`> anyone that thinks this debt economy is going on forever is delusional
278825 [21:15:28] <Zeno> right
278925 [21:15:46] <Zeno> WolF`   Bitcoin will save it!  LOL
279025 [21:16:37] <WolF`> lol
279125 [21:16:43] <barathron> pfft
279225 [21:17:01] <WolF`> bitcoin is a symptom
279325 [21:17:10] <barathron> people don't get there is not remotely enough bitcoin currency in circulation to do all these grand things people talk about 
279425 [21:17:31] <WolF`> bitcoin is basically nothing
279525 [21:17:39] <barathron> I see people say bitcoin is a reserve currency... Bullshit it is
279625 [21:17:43] <WolF`> buncha people gambling
279725 [21:18:42] <Zeno> WolF`   looks like it to me too
279825 [21:18:57] <Zeno> WolF` if something looks too good to be true, it probably is
279925 [21:19:40] <WolF`> they are buying it because they think its going up, you see what happened in 1929 with that sort of thinking
280025 [21:20:05] <barathron> reminds me of the Tulip trade its getting so out of hand
280125 [21:20:46] <WolF`> yep
280225 [21:20:48] <barathron> least with the Tulip trade... you got tulips :P 
280325 [21:20:50] <barathron> lol
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280525 [21:24:47] <WolF`> holland has tulips out the ass, i rode for hours on a train in holand through tulip fields, who buys that many tulips
280625 [21:25:50] <juan-> why are the dutch sticking tulips in their butts
280725 [21:28:50] <Alaeddin> Egyptian coptic pope refuses to meet with usa vice president pense.
280825 [21:31:12] <@PlagueRat> Good call. You can take one look at Pense and know that something isn't right.   I'm not sure Pense is actually a human being.  
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281025 [21:32:22] <@PlagueRat> On one hand we have the Orange Pumpkin with a ex-lax crazied flying squirrel on his head,  and on the other hand you have the replicant whose birthing tank ran out of skin color...
281125 [21:32:52] <@PlagueRat> In congress we have Eddie Munster and McTurtle...
281225 [21:32:59] <Catch_22> the rocky and bullwinkle of world politics
281325 [21:33:01] <@PlagueRat> it's just not right
281425 [21:33:55] <@PlagueRat> Catch_22 -  no, Boris and Natasha...   Natasha is eastern European and speaks with accent, dahlink...   Trump has small hands and always up to evil, and in the pay of Russia...
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281625 [21:34:46] <Catch_22> and me? I am screaming 'help mr wizard i am trapped in the 21rst century with crazy peoples'  
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281825 [21:35:11] <Catch_22> that is, i am sherman
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282025 [21:39:01] <Catch_22> while one of the signs of the 'end times' in revelation is the rebuilding of the temple on top of al aqsa mosque.  I can't figure out how Trump and Pence are going to get the chinese to march their army over the euphrates ... one of the other signs of the 'end times' in Revelation
282125 [21:39:44] <@PlagueRat> I think the Muslims might not be all that thrilled with destroying the Al Aqsa mosque
282225 [21:39:44] <AAAman> What is the Trump doctrine
282325 [21:40:05] <Catch_22> Win, and make money doing it.
282425 [21:40:25] <AAAman> What is the Trump doctrine:  A Trump hotel in every country
282525 [21:40:27] <Catch_22> personally
282625 [21:40:32] <Catch_22> yes
282725 [21:40:46] <Catch_22> that is one branch of the trump doctrine
282825 [21:41:16] <@PlagueRat> If there were real justice in this world,   Trump would be the owner/manager at the Trump Motel 6 in Rahway NJ,  and Melania would be offering "fuck one, blow one free" specials.
282925 [21:41:20] <AAAman> Trump has no stategy, he plays it by Fox News from day to day
283025 [21:41:47] <@PlagueRat> Catch_22 -  have you ever watched "I, Pet Goat" ???
283125 [21:42:12] <Catch_22> its like a tree ... a tree with orange leaves.... ivanka gets rich in the east, he gets lucrative deals for his companies with the DOD , State Department and other countries heads of state
283225 [21:42:34] <Catch_22> I am not sure PlagueRat   sound familiar.  I will have to look for it
283325 [21:42:36] <AAAman>  If you want to find out what Trump will do next, Fox News will tell you before Trump even knows
283425 [21:42:52] <WolF`> trump will not be the one to decide if nukes are used
283525 [21:43:04] <AAAman> Fox News is running this country
283625 [21:43:21] <Catch_22> Well they are a DOD PR outlet after all.
283725 [21:43:29] <@PlagueRat> Catch_22 -  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n_xCI-peq0
283825 [21:43:52] <Catch_22> PR standing for the original propagande, rather than public relations.
283925 [21:43:58] <Catch_22> Thanks PlagueRat !
284025 [21:52:53] <Catch_22> that is incredible PlagueRat  thank you again ... just amazing.
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284325 [21:58:08] <@PlagueRat> Catch_22 -   so much symbolism !!!
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284625 [21:58:58] <Krshna> A Russian interceptor was scrambled to stop a "rogue" US fighter jet from actively interfering with an anti-terrorist operation, the Russian Defense Ministry said, describing the latest close encounter between the US and Russian air force.
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284825 [22:00:13] <Krshna> Iran's Revolutionary Guard Sends Formal Message To US Military: Leave Syria Or Else
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285025 [22:05:23] <Catch_22> Trump attends civil rights museum opening; black leaders stay away https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-mississippi/trump-attends-civil-rights-museum-opening-black-leaders-stay-away-idUSKBN1E30P1?il=0
285125 [22:05:54] <Catch_22> Palestinians to snub Pence during visit over Jerusalem move https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-israel-gaza/palestinians-to-snub-pence-during-visit-over-jerusalem-move-idUSKBN1E308K
285225 [22:13:02] <AAAman>  Trump needs Russian help  again in the next election
285325 [22:14:56] <Catch_22> well, unless he manages to cause a big war somewhere. That is what most presidents in his shoes do....
285425 [22:15:29] <Catch_22> though it really did not work for the papa bush... 
285525 [22:18:41] <fkt> Former Fox News host says she rebuffed Trump kiss in 2005   
285625 [22:21:21] <Catch_22> best policy ... ask first.
285725 [22:21:35] <Catch_22> hugs and kisses ... ask first
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286025 [22:22:30] <clikka> Is the world ending? and if so how can we blame Trump?
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286325 [22:23:10] <WolF`> clikka, yes to both
286425 [22:25:57] <@PlagueRat> civilization is ending...  and we can blame the rotting pumpkin with the flying squirrel fucking his head...
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286625 [22:28:16] <clikka> good work.. echo chamber.. I'm impressed.
286725 [22:28:30] <@PlagueRat> Here is a really strange concept...  PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY...  I know conservatives have a hard time with it,  so let me explain.  Trump wanted the job as President,  and so now he has to take responsibility for what happens while he is in the hot seat.  
286825 [22:29:23] <clikka> Do you accept (blame Obama) for Libya being bombed into a failed state?
286925 [22:29:40] <clikka> Or is it only trump that has to held accountable?
287025 [22:30:17] <@PlagueRat> To a very large extent, yes.  His Libyan policy sucked.  His syrian policy was well on the way.  Both had largely been contaminated by Hillary and her hideous horror...     
287125 [22:30:33] <@PlagueRat> Obama was very disappointing in many ways.  Libya and Syria are two...
287225 [22:30:55] <@PlagueRat> But Trump is EXCEEDING the disappointment by ordres of magnitude
287325 [22:32:24] <DrRabbitfoot> Washington Post reporter Dave Weigel issued an apology to President Trump on Saturday for tweeting a photo of an empty arena before a Trump rally in Florida that had been taken hours before the event started.
287425 [22:32:26] <DrRabbitfoot> http://thehill.com/media/364124-washington-post-reporter-apologizes-for-tweet-on-crowd-size-at-trump-rally
287525 [22:32:26] <edenaus> And for what? By the way arent things better now you can be born a male but be recognised as female even though you have male chromosomes?
287625 [22:33:03] <edenaus> Al sort of mental illnes can be indulged
287732 [22:33:22] PlagueRat hands edenaus the non-sequiteur of the day award...
287825 [22:34:20] <edenaus> PlagueRat  even with your ugly mug you can be a lady
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288025 [22:34:44] <Alaeddin> Barack Obama is a jew from the Falasha he is of Ethiopian origins born in libya sent to the usa for the purpose , recruited by the mossad we know his father was living here in tripoli , his father home is is an area called Tareek Alsour [Wall Street ] inside Tripoli near Tripoli main post office headquarter. 
288125 [22:34:48] <@PlagueRat> edenaus - and I'd be a better woman than you'd ever be  !!!!
288225 [22:34:56] <edenaus> I feel pretty oh so pretty
288325 [22:35:23] <Alaeddin> his father arrived to libya in 1956 used islamic names as cover ehich hided behind it
288425 [22:35:34] <edenaus> of course your a better person
288525 [22:35:44] <Pler> Alaeddin - ...your brain is broken.
288625 [22:35:49] <Alaeddin> sent by israel to work for israeli intelligence agency the mossad
288725 [22:35:55] <@PlagueRat> edenaus - I'm the best rat in this channel !!
288825 [22:36:03] <DrRabbitfoot> https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/09/the-new-fbi-agency-everyone-forgot-did-adam-schiff-just-get-caught-in-an-elaborate-counterintelligence-sting/amp/
288925 [22:36:08] <Alaeddin> pler your broken brain
289025 [22:36:20] <Pler> good one
289125 [22:36:30] <Pler> majnoon ikteer
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289325 [22:37:03] <Alaeddin> Condaliza Rice too is of ethiopian origins she is a jew working for the Mossad I know her father who's name  is Rajab BIN DELFO
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289625 [22:37:45] <Alaeddin> her mother is a jew from tunesia of french origins her name is Emny Ali Alfurjani
289725 [22:37:52] <Pler> lol
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289925 [22:38:07] <Alaeddin> she is living not far from my father's home
290025 [22:38:18] <fkt> he's not interested in the job itself and it shows in just about everything he says and does..he definately loves the thought of the title in combined with his name..the power..the money..it's good to be the king.  he's sort of like the person that collects guitars because he fancies himself a rock star, but doesn't love the activity of playing and practicing itself.  they like the looks of wearing a guitar but can't play it worth a shit.  a total potus poser.
290125 [22:38:47] <Alaeddin> Condaliza Rice is speaking arabic she was born here and speaks arabic normal
290225 [22:38:55] <WolF`> fkt, hes a con man
290325 [22:39:13] <WolF`> conned his way into the presidency
290425 [22:39:18] <Alaeddin> you think she is not married and we know she is married and have kids
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290625 [22:39:47] <WolF`> chris hedges called him the biggest con man in history
290725 [22:40:45] <Alaeddin> In December 2010 I have been to Holland in the city of Maastricht taking a training course in video signage softwares then returned back to Amsterdam and stayed in the Crown Plaza Hotel
290825 [22:40:45] <edenaus> Condaleea Rice was born in Birmingham, Alabama, and grew up while the South was racially segregated. She obtained her bachelor's degree from the University of Denver and her master's degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame. She worked at the State Department under the Carter administration 
290925 [22:41:54] <nelliebrown> who has trump conned? He's kept many of the promises he can, without the backing of Congress
291025 [22:42:29] <WolF`> nelliebrown you
291125 [22:43:05] <nelliebrown> I've been pretty happy with what he's accomplished in the last year
291225 [22:43:31] <WolF`> nelliebrown, bullshit, how come nothing on china, hes changed his tune 180 degrees on china
291325 [22:43:38] <Alaeddin> I have seen president obama along with the tunesian president Albaki Qaed Alsibsi accompanied by Condaiza rice were welcomed by former usa foreign minister in building in from of the crown hotel Condaliza Rice was welcomed by her family which are living near my father's home in Tripoli , her sister Najat Rajab Bin delfo and her brothers Rajab Bindelfo , Muhammad Bin Delo , Abid Alhakeem Bin delfo were among those who welcomed Condaliza.
291425 [22:43:49] <WolF`> nelliebrown, why are we in nafta?
291525 [22:44:02] <edenaus> He hasnt engaged the USA in a full scaled war unlike Democrat peace lovers or paleorepublican war pigs, isnt that a plus?
291625 [22:44:03] <nelliebrown> wolf he's been in office for less than a year
291725 [22:44:25] <Alaeddin> Barack Obama arrived to the building in an old fashion veehicle bran OPEN of black color .
291825 [22:44:34] <WolF`> nelliebrown, yeah, and has been a total disaster
291925 [22:44:52] <Alaeddin> this visit is not mentioned in the media usa or european media 
292025 [22:45:09] <Pler> edenaus - ...it's only been a year. 
292125 [22:45:31] <Pler> trump is lunatic hawk..
292225 [22:45:47] <WolF`> trump is not in charge
292325 [22:46:13] <Alaeddin> the conspiracy started by the world zionist jews congress.
292425 [22:46:34] <WolF`> trump is doing what he is being told to do
292525 [22:46:46] <WolF`> like taking the indians lands
292625 [22:46:52] <^skunk``> trump is a porn of moscow 
292725 [22:47:10] <Alaeddin> and  still continuing unless quick measure are taken to stop it 
292825 [22:47:28] <^skunk``> putin is in charge - my granny said so
292925 [22:47:36] <Pler> I don't really care what he is, I just want him to have a painful heart-attack live on TV for christmas
293025 [22:47:50] <^skunk``> putin is running US..
293125 [22:47:52] <edenaus> right im going to take the word of someone who cant spell pawn
293225 [22:47:55] <WolF`> the money boyz are running the show
293325 [22:48:00] <^skunk``> haha
293425 [22:48:09] <^skunk``> was done on purpose 
293525 [22:48:13] <DrRabbitfoot> https://i.redditmedia.com/Mp2fzM47DO2ZEHBw_wWblPzzLNytg77ov1CII5OPz7A.jpg?w=631&s=a219ba0a0744ba1dcb40f040cd8d8d8b
293625 [22:48:27] <^skunk``> but glad u spotted it
293725 [22:48:34] <Alaeddin> the volume of the conspiracy is unprecedented and the losses are too high , the aim devestation in earth 
293825 [22:48:46] <^skunk``> cos this moscow shit is a joke 
293925 [22:49:13] <edenaus> Aleaeddin have you bought yourself a libyan slave yet?
294025 [22:49:45] <WolF`> putin is holding the pee tape over trump's head
294125 [22:50:03] <kmh_>  egyptian christians (cops) decline to meet mike pence due to trump's jerusalem decision
294225 [22:50:03] <WolF`> and a lot worse
294325 [22:50:15] <^skunk``> copts not cops lol
294425 [22:50:59] <^skunk``> i hope pence declines to meet merkel.
294525 [22:51:18] <Alaeddin> edenaus do you know Roland S Lauder 
294625 [22:51:20] <WolF`> merkel is running the show
294725 [22:51:53] <^skunk``> yep the rocky horror show
294825 [22:52:03] <edenaus> no Alaeddin
294925 [22:52:24] <Alaeddin> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
295025 [22:52:28] <DrRabbitfoot> https://i.redditmedia.com/-eyrac_45B8VaRA3IVM-FLm3-Yi0wG1OKZV5MivUn94.png?w=540&s=176ea6085d67e915ab58ec7e3fd4052c
295125 [22:52:31] <^skunk``> edenaus theere are no slaves in libya 
295225 [22:52:42] <Alaeddin> this man was the chairman of the world jews congress
295325 [22:52:46] <^skunk``> islam forbids slaves
295425 [22:52:58] <^skunk``> muhanned never had slaves
295525 [22:52:58] <Alaeddin> the world has just started to wakeup
295625 [22:53:10] <^skunk``> muhammed only had thousands of slaves
295725 [22:53:10] <@PlagueRat> ^skunk`` -  why would you wish that pence doesn't meet merkel ???
295825 [22:53:16] <^skunk``> jesus had none
295925 [22:53:34] <^skunk``> muhhamemd killed thousands and hundereds of thousands 
296025 [22:53:35] <Pler> all the abrahamic faiths endorse slavery.
296125 [22:53:41] <^skunk``> jesus killed none
296225 [22:53:58] <Pler> jesus probaby didn't exist. hard to kill people when you're imaginary.
296325 [22:54:12] <^skunk``> pler did muhammed exist ?
296425 [22:54:20] <edenaus> http://fortune.com/2017/12/08/libya-slave-market-trade-slavery-africa-2017/
296525 [22:54:23] <Pler> yes, he did exist. and he was a jerk imo
296625 [22:54:35] <edenaus> http://time.com/5042560/libya-slave-trade/
296725 [22:54:36] <^skunk``> did he kill any people ?
296825 [22:54:39] <Pler> skunk - ..yes
296925 [22:54:48] <WolF`> there is no emprical proof that jesus ever existed
297025 [22:54:53] <edenaus> http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/07/world/un-security-council-libya-slavery/index.html
297125 [22:55:21] <^skunk``> the world is waking up to islam 
297225 [22:55:23] <Pler> there's plenty of evidence that mohammad existed...and was some cult-leader shithead. Jesus is more like robin hood...someone who might have existed, but there's no good reason to say for certain that he did
297325 [22:55:34] <^skunk``> he killed a lot of ppl
297425 [22:55:41] <^skunk``> we are waking up.
297525 [22:55:44] <Catch_22> Pentagon Announces First-Ever Audit Of The Department Of Defense -- The Defense Department has famously never been audited, despite receiving hundreds of billions of dollars annually and having more than $2.2 trillion in assets. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/08/569394885/pentagon-announces-first-ever-audit-of-the-department-of-defense
297625 [22:55:54] <Pler> skunk - ...all the abrahamic faiths are equal. the only people "waking up" to any of this are atheists.
297725 [22:56:40] <^skunk``> pler christianity is not equal to the otehrs
297825 [22:56:42] <Pler> islam is no better/worse than christianity or judaism..
297925 [22:56:50] <Catch_22> heh
298025 [22:56:55] <^skunk``> do unto others as u will have dont to yourself
298125 [22:57:05] <WolF`> muslims are not new to america, they have been here from the beginning, trump is president of them too
298225 [22:57:07] <^skunk``> thats christianity and some ddnt follow it
298325 [22:57:07] <Catch_22> Well true, Christianity has killed more than any of the others
298425 [22:57:08] <Pler> skunk - ...all the abrahamic faiths say that. that's not unique to christianity.
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298625 [22:57:16] <^skunk``> some ddnt follow it
298725 [22:57:24] <^skunk``> pler teh ot and islam are violent
298825 [22:57:27] <WolF`> muslims are the new blacks
298925 [22:57:29] <Pler> re: do unto others - all the abrahamic faiths say that. They also *all* say it's okay to rape kids
299025 [22:57:33] <^skunk``> isis are only following the koran exactly
299125 [22:57:38] <Pler> skunk - ..islam is no more violent than christianity. 
299225 [22:57:43] <^skunk``> pler not true 
299325 [22:57:55] <Pler> skunk - ..if people followed the bible as closely as ISIS follows the quran..christians would behave just like ISIS
299425 [22:57:59] <Alaeddin> edenaus I have seen Roland S Lauder once in Rome, Italy at a kiosk  at the Piazza Della Republic [ republic square] he stole some stuff from the kiosk and runaway , he is a billionair , was pursed by the police and forced him to pay for the goods he stole i helped the kiosk owner who didnt watch the thefting . 
299525 [22:58:09] <^skunk``> pler where in the nt does it say a christian must kill non christians ??
299625 [22:58:12] <Pler> it is true. you're delusional and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
299725 [22:58:22] <Pler> skunk - ..it says that in the fucking bible you moron
299825 [22:58:23] <^skunk``> pler i know the islam and i know the nt
299925 [22:58:31] <^skunk``> in the nt ?
300025 [22:58:33] <^skunk``> where ?
300125 [22:58:36] <^skunk``> moron tell me
300225 [22:58:47] <Catch_22> skunk is a 'believer'
300325 [22:58:54] <^skunk``> isis are following the koran thats all
300425 [22:59:02] <Pler> They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
300525 [22:59:03] <Pler> there
300625 [22:59:04] <Pler> and..
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300825 [22:59:30] <^skunk``> pler is that  for christians ?hahah
300925 [22:59:33] <^skunk``> rofl
301025 [22:59:44] <^skunk``> youre a moron dude
301125 [22:59:53] <Pler> If you find it is true [that people are not-christians] and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
301225 [23:00:00] <Pler> yes. that is for christians. that's the bible.
301325 [23:00:02] <^skunk``> whre does the bible say that crhistians must kill non christians
301425 [23:00:27] <Alaeddin> He was with Albaji Qaed Alsibsi in the same car , Albaji Qaed Alsibsi is the Tunesian president now We believe they are brothers  ''jews '' who were working for the Mossad we believe 100% of that.
301525 [23:00:29] <^skunk``> u added the word christian
301625 [23:00:31] <Pler> If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.(Deuteronomy 
301725 [23:00:32] <Pler> 13:7-12 NAB)
301825 [23:00:49] <^skunk``> aleden thanks i learnt the koran thanks to u
301925 [23:00:50] <Pler> skunk - ...I'm quoting different parts of the bible where christians are instructed to murder non-christians
302025 [23:00:55] <^skunk``> not so
302125 [23:00:56] <Pler> instructed*
302225 [23:00:58] <Pler> yes. so.
302325 [23:00:59] <Alaeddin> we think they are jews from Austria.
302425 [23:01:04] <^skunk``> there is no word christiand there
302525 [23:01:18] <Catch_22> skunK   that christians have killed more people than any other religion is the proof. "Thou knowest the tree, by the fruit it beareth" jesud
302625 [23:01:20] <Pler> according to the bible, me saying all this is punishable by death  (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
302725 [23:01:21] <^skunk``> the nt does not instsruct chrstians to kill non christains 
302825 [23:01:24] <WolF`> there should never be a reason to quote the bible outside church
302925 [23:01:25] <^skunk``> sorry
303025 [23:01:31] <Pler> skunk - ..it does. you're being willfully dumb.
303125 [23:01:37] <^skunk``> leviticus is not christianity ffs haha
303225 [23:01:51] <Alaeddin> the conspiracy started with the beginning of the world zionist jews congress using the Rothschilds.
303325 [23:01:53] <^skunk``> chirsitianity did not exist then u dumbasss
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303625 [23:02:19] <^skunk``> fact is xns are not instructed to kill non xns 
303725 [23:02:28] <^skunk``> if followed its a peaceful religion 
303825 [23:02:34] <Pler> skunk - ...it is christianity. christianity is the old testament and the new testament. they aren't separate doctrines, they two parts of the same doctrine
303925 [23:02:36] <Catch_22> when was that 6000 years ago, when god made the earth?
304025 [23:02:40] <Pler> you don't even understand what christianity is
304125 [23:02:41] <^skunk``> the koran advocates violence
304225 [23:02:52] <Pler> skunk - ...the quran advocates the same amount of violence as the bible
304325 [23:02:53] <^skunk``> pler jesus never said xns must kill xns
304425 [23:02:55] <Pler> possibly less
304525 [23:03:02] <^skunk``> so fuck off 
304625 [23:03:06] <^skunk``> u know it
304725 [23:03:07] <Pler> skunk - ..jesus said (allegedly) that the old testament had to be followed to the letter.
304825 [23:03:09] <Alaeddin> I have seen Barack Obama personally in Tripoli during my youth life at his father home .
304925 [23:03:10] <^skunk``> u idiot
305025 [23:03:24] <^skunk``> where did jesus say xns must kill xns ?? 
305125 [23:03:24] <Pler> once more so it sinks in..
305225 [23:03:25] <Pler> <Pler> skunk - ..jesus said (allegedly) that the old testament had to be followed to the letter
305325 [23:03:25] <^skunk``> nowhere 
305425 [23:03:31] <^skunk``> allegedly ??
305525 [23:03:34] <^skunk``> ffs
305625 [23:03:37] <nhscott> They hate and oppose Roy Moore because of his faith. It’s not that the left hates faith in general; it’s that they hate conservative evangelicals and what they represent. The left despises them so badly they are willing to run them out of public life at any cost......https://barbwire.com/2017/12/09/real-motive-behind-opposition-judge-roy-moore/
305725 [23:03:39] <Pler> ..allegedly because he probably didn't exist.
305825 [23:03:43] <Catch_22> well, jesus is a profit in islamic faith, the bible its holy book
305925 [23:03:47] <^skunk``> muhammed allegedly said he loves everybody 
306025 [23:04:08] <^skunk``> moses is a prophet for islam so fuckihg wot ?
306125 [23:04:14] <Pler> skunk - ..yes, he is
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306525 [23:04:42] <Pler> islam is a bit like christianity 2.0 or judaism 3.0 ....it's a build-off of the other two before it.
306625 [23:04:53] <Pler> not a precise analogy, but it works well enough
306725 [23:04:54] <^skunk``> wot is the penatly for leaving christianity ?
306825 [23:04:58] <Pler> skunk - DEATH
306925 [23:04:58] <fkt> nah, it's mostly that he fucks kids.  mixing fairy tale with law is second on the list of reasons to hate him.
307025 [23:05:14] <^skunk``> not
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307225 [23:05:18] <^skunk``> thats islam 
307325 [23:05:27] <^skunk``> the reeligion of peace
307425 [23:05:34] <Pler> skunk - ..it's christianity too
307525 [23:05:39] <Catch_22> i guess i go back to the 'facts on the ground'  People calling themselves christians have killed more people in the name of their religion, than any other religious group. Thus I can only conclude, Christianity is the most violent religion. Them's the actual facts
307625 [23:05:39] <^skunk``> where ?
307725 [23:05:59] <Pler> skunk- ..the old testament. want me to quote it or are you just going to dishonestly claim the OT doesn't count here too?
307825 [23:06:01] <^skunk``> jesus said kill those who leave the fait ?
307925 [23:06:06] <^skunk``> haha
308025 [23:06:15] <Pler> skunk - ...jesus said to follow the old testament to the letter.
308125 [23:06:19] <^skunk``> jesus started a new religon of peace
308225 [23:06:20] <^skunk``> crap 
308325 [23:06:23] <Pler> that includes all the killy and rapy and slavey bits
308425 [23:06:27] <^skunk``> christians eat kosher ?? 
308525 [23:06:30] <^skunk``> theory fucked
308625 [23:06:48] <^skunk``> go talk your crap somewhere elee
308725 [23:06:50] <^skunk``> else
308825 [23:06:51] <Alaeddin> George Bush is a jew his father had attended the world zionist jews congress in 1924 in Basel , Switzerland .
308925 [23:07:06] <Alaeddin> G W B is a jew too despite the christian names
309025 [23:07:12] <Pler> skunk - ..christians ignore that part. most christians also now ignore the killy bits. most muslims ignore the killy bits too - and they don't all eat halal etc
309125 [23:07:39] <^skunk``> jesus started a new religon as simpler one with no kosher eating rules 
309225 [23:07:42] <^skunk``> etc
309325 [23:07:47] <^skunk``> a new break 
309425 [23:08:15] <Catch_22> christians kill more people than any other religion (despite what thier books may or may not say)   Case closed
309525 [23:08:22] <Pler> skunk - ..he didn't start a new religion really - it was basically just judaism with him as the prophet. he never said ignore the old testament. he said explicitly to follow it.  
309625 [23:08:38] <^skunk``> jesus said let he is without sin cast the first stone - in other words this stoning of adulterrers is savage and must stop 
309725 [23:08:48] <^skunk``> thats the symbolims of that statement
309825 [23:08:50] <Pler> that is to say - it wasn't entirely new, from a whole new cloth...it was a build-off of judaism
309925 [23:08:55] <^skunk``> hew
310025 [23:08:58] <^skunk``> new
310125 [23:09:15] <Catch_22> and yet christians do exactly that skunk ... in spades
310225 [23:09:17] <^skunk``> he did not - he stopped stoning to death 
310325 [23:09:33] <^skunk``> so your theory is crap
310425 [23:09:41] <Pler> skunk - ..mohammad also said similar things to "let he who is without sin..."  -- the faiths are contradicted, anyone can justify anyting they want.  
310525 [23:09:45] <Alaeddin> here the jewish families who are working for the mossad and who had arrived in the fifties and sixties of the 20 century are all using islamic names and all are jews , the mossad principle in recruiting spies is maily one recruiting the whole familiy not just one member all are soldiers in the mossad.
310625 [23:10:03] <^skunk``> the symbolims of that statement is the break with the ot 
310725 [23:10:12] <^skunk``> your theory is rubbish 
310825 [23:10:33] <^skunk``> so muhammed condemned stoning to death ? 
310925 [23:10:38] <^skunk``> i dont think so
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311125 [23:10:47] <Alaeddin> like those who stole the  technology of making nuclear bombs and sent it to stalin.
311225 [23:11:07] <Alaeddin> were then hanged by usa justice system.
311325 [23:12:06] <^skunk``> let he who is without sin cast the first stone is one of the most impt statements of jesus and in the nt - the symbolism knocks your theory to shreds
311425 [23:12:20] <nhscott> https://barbwire.com/2017/12/09/false-testimony-campaign-by-soros-and-other-left-wingers-against-judge-roy-moore/
311525 [23:13:22] <Pler> skunk - ..jesus didn't codemn stoning as such. he said two conflicting things about it. he said follow the OT to the law and also 'he who has not sinned.." -- christians can pick/choose whichever they want to believe 
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311925 [23:13:45] <Pler> in islam there is also this contradiction...to be merciful and forgive..and also punish sin
312025 [23:13:59] <Catch_22> there are a lot of people in the world who claim to belong to a religion who haven't a clue as to the precepts of the religion.... this includes people claiming to be christians, muslims and jews. But in actuality do not belong to the religion at all.
312125 [23:14:03] <Pler> and the punishment in the OT and quran is the same basic bronze age shittyness...
312225 [23:14:11] <^skunk``> pler the mercy is to muslims only 
312325 [23:14:17] <^skunk``> haha
312425 [23:14:23] <^skunk``> u know fuck all about islam
312525 [23:15:02] <Pler> skunk - ..christians are also instructed to kill non-christians...shit, they're instructed to kill christians too for a whole bunch of shit like "being curious" or being the child of a sinner etc
312625 [23:15:20] <^skunk``> pler crhistians dont eat kosher 
312725 [23:15:22] <Pler> skunk - ..christians are supposed to kill christians who work on sunday
312825 [23:15:27] <^skunk``> theyre not instructed to 
312925 [23:15:40] <Pler> skunk - ...christians are supposed to eat kosher, they just don't. 
313025 [23:15:43] <^skunk``> ot and nt are different
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313225 [23:15:47] <^skunk``> rubbish
313325 [23:15:48] <Pler> lots of muslims don't eat halal either
313425 [23:15:53] <^skunk``> sure they dont 
313525 [23:15:59] <^skunk``> but they are supposed to
313625 [23:16:04] <Pler> skunk - the NT says follow the OT 
313725 [23:16:10] <^skunk``> zzz
313825 [23:16:21] <Pler> you don't understand christianity. you're whitewashing it.
313925 [23:16:21] <Alaeddin> pler lots of muslims are living here in muslim countries and meat here is halal meat
314025 [23:16:22] <^skunk``> ive met many muslims who eat halla
314125 [23:16:26] <^skunk``> halal
314225 [23:16:27] <Pler> it's no different than islam
314325 [23:16:31] <Pler> and?
314425 [23:16:38] <Pler> did I say all muslims don't eat halal?
314525 [23:16:40] <^skunk``> never met a xtian who ate kosher roflmao
314625 [23:16:45] <^skunk``> haha
314725 [23:16:56] <Alaeddin> and i am sure all muslims in the west too are eating halal meat with few exceptions
314825 [23:16:57] <Gunthers> yeah pork and chicken so different
314925 [23:16:58] <^skunk``> haha'
315025 [23:17:00] <Catch_22> lots of christians eat kosher foods .. sheesh
315125 [23:17:01] <^skunk``> hehe
315225 [23:17:04] <^skunk``> haha
315325 [23:17:05] <Pler> ...it's not part of the christian tradition.  most christians also don't murder their children for insubordination - but they're supposed ot
315425 [23:17:12] <Gunthers> food are food
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315625 [23:17:14] <Pler> supposed to
315725 [23:17:19] <^skunk``> not one priest says eat kosher
315825 [23:17:26] <Catch_22> flee ippy flee  : ))
315925 [23:17:33] <^skunk``> imams say eat hallal get it
316025 [23:17:41] <^skunk``> rabbis say eat kosher get it
316125 [23:17:48] <ippy> hey Catch_22 .. flee from the fleas?
316225 [23:17:48] <Pler> skunk - ...priests also don't say murder muslims and blasphemers. But the bible says that.
316325 [23:17:57] <^skunk``> tell me where priests say eat kosher 
316425 [23:17:59] <Alaeddin> rabbis love donkey meat
316525 [23:18:11] <Catch_22> no ... this ridiculous conversation
316625 [23:18:16] <nhscott> http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/18/character-witnesses-former-girlfriends-employees-childhood-friends-defend-moore/
316725 [23:18:18] <^skunk``> of course it is
316825 [23:18:19] <Alaeddin> the orthodox jews are fond of donkey meat
316925 [23:18:36] <^skunk``> christians are not supposed to eat kosher and this idiot knows it
317025 [23:18:50] <^skunk``> his whole arguement depends on it 
317125 [23:18:51] <DrRabbitfoot> .@daveweigel of the Washington Post just admitted that his picture was a FAKE (fraud?) showing an almost empty arena last night for my speech in Pensacola when, in fact, he knew the arena was packed (as shown also on T.V.). FAKE NEWS, he should be fired. @realDonaldTrump
317225 [23:18:51] <DrRabbitfoot> 3m
317325 [23:18:54] <^skunk``> and its pathetic 
317425 [23:19:04] <^skunk``> watching him make a fool of himself
317525 [23:19:21] <Baimei> trump is the fake
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317725 [23:20:26] <Baimei> i just heard that when donald jr was a kid, he said that his father didnt love them, only money
317825 [23:20:56] <Pler> skunk - ...you don't understand christianity.
317925 [23:20:59] <Pler> or islam
318025 [23:21:56] <^skunk``> pler u are well informed on politics but relgion u know fuck all
318125 [23:22:03] <^skunk``> stick to politics 
318225 [23:22:08] <Pler> skunk - ..the bible itself contradicts your beliefs.
318325 [23:22:12] <^skunk``> u make a fool of yourself
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318725 [23:22:29] <Baimei> atheists often know more than christians do about their own religion
318825 [23:22:54] <Pler> Survey: Atheists, Agnostics Know More About Religion Than Religious: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/09/28/130191248/atheists-and-agnostics-know-more-about-bible-than-religious
318925 [23:23:19] <Baimei> exactly
319025 [23:23:44] <Pler> I know christians don't abide by every letter of the bible...like muslims don't abide by every letter of the quran.  Skunk here bigotedly, ignorantly, and dishonestly holds muslims to a different standard than christians. 
319125 [23:23:47] <^skunk``> the kosher food got u dude
319225 [23:23:48] <Pler> it's pure bigotry
319325 [23:24:07] <^skunk``> pler i know many muslims
319425 [23:24:08] <Pler> skunk - ..it didn't.  just becuase someone is in the bible, it doens't mean people follow it - similar to the quran.
319525 [23:24:19] <^skunk``> many muslims dont follow the koran
319625 [23:24:26] <^skunk``> isis do
319725 [23:24:43] <Pler> skunk - ...and neo-nazis like to follow the bible as closely as ISIS follows the quran. 
319825 [23:24:58] <Pler> christian-identity groups, to be more precise..
319925 [23:25:01] <edenaus> I know a guy who knows a muslim guy
320025 [23:25:03] <^skunk``> many christiand dont follow the nt if only they did ...
320125 [23:25:41] <^skunk``> if u follow christianity to the letter u will be peaceful - if u follow koran to the letter u will be violent
320225 [23:25:48] <^skunk``> thats the contradiction 
320325 [23:26:02] <^skunk``> nazis never followed the nt  
320425 [23:26:10] <^skunk``> isis follow the koran exactly
320525 [23:26:11] <Pler> skunk - ...they're no different in their conflicted endorsements of peace and murder.
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320725 [23:26:18] <^skunk``> crap
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320925 [23:26:22] <Pler> it's not crap. you're ignorant.
321025 [23:26:31] <Pler> I just proved it. 
321125 [23:26:31] <Baimei> if there had been a real jesus and he saw the behavior of his so called followers, he would be disgusted
321225 [23:26:36] <Pler> you're deluding yourself
321325 [23:26:41] <^skunk``> muslims who are peaceful do not follow the koran 
321425 [23:26:48] <^skunk``> most are like that
321525 [23:26:59] <Pler> muslism who are peaceful pick to choose the peaceful bits - just like peacful christians
321625 [23:27:01] <^skunk``> they dont kill ppl who leave islam
321725 [23:27:02] <nhscott> Is Islam a religion of peace.............https://www.prageru.com/playlists/biggest-issues-world-today#2
321825 [23:27:07] <^skunk``> crap
321925 [23:27:12] <ippy> christians that are peaceful do not follow the bible
322025 [23:27:13] <^skunk``> pler have u read the koran ?
322125 [23:27:47] <^skunk``> muslims who are peaceful ignore most of the koran
322225 [23:27:56] <^skunk``> they dont kill ppl who leave islam 
322325 [23:27:59] <^skunk``> isis do
322425 [23:28:03] <nhscott> skunk i have and can start post if you wish :)
322525 [23:28:25] <^skunk``> pler have u read the koran ?
322625 [23:28:28] <Alaeddin> Muslims dont have an organization called world zionist muslims congress despite the 2000 billion muslims
322725 [23:28:36] <edenaus> There are nice muslims christians and atheists and there are ones that are assholes
322825 [23:28:52] <^skunk``> you havent even read the koran so u can't talk about it
322925 [23:28:53] <Alaeddin> 2 billion
323025 [23:29:28] <^skunk``> pler have u read the koran ?
323125 [23:29:33] <edenaus> Skunk  christians used to kill non believers
323225 [23:30:03] <Alaeddin> The Theatre was the Lotte Department store
323325 [23:30:04] <DrRabbitfoot> https://imgur.com/zeNabNB
323425 [23:30:19] <^skunk``> the genius hasnt even read the koran wot a fuckin idiot
323525 [23:30:23] <Alaeddin> the year was 1994
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323725 [23:30:48] <Alaeddin> the gathering of the main members of the world zzionist jews congress
323825 [23:30:57] <ippy> ^skunk`` thats when u lose .. personal comments 
323925 [23:31:01] <Alaeddin> aat the lotte department store
324025 [23:31:11] <Alaeddin> in south korea seoul
324125 [23:31:27] <Alaeddin> bill clinton was among those members
324225 [23:31:35] <Alaeddin> george bush too
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324625 [23:31:47] <Alaeddin> netanyahu
324725 [23:32:10] <Alaeddin> member of the former israeli governments
324825 [23:32:48] <Alaeddin> rabbi obadia ytusif
324925 [23:33:04] <Alaeddin> libyan vice president Abid Alsalaam Jallud
325025 [23:33:13] <ippy> The head of the Arab League has called US President Donald Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital "dangerous and unacceptable" and a "flagrant attack on a political solution" to the Israeli- Palestinian conflict. 
325125 [23:33:13] <ippy> The statement by Ahmed Aboul-Gheit, the regional bloc's secretary-general, came at the start of an emergency meeting of foreign ministers from 22 Arab states in Egypt's capital, Cairo, on Saturday.
325225 [23:33:45] <ippy> see what trump is doing?
325325 [23:34:08] <Zeno> ippy  notice Dem leaders like Schumer also aligned with Trump on Jerusalem. but why isn't he taking heat?
325425 [23:34:27] <Baimei> trump doesnt care what his actions might do
325525 [23:35:03] <ippy> http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/arab-league-condemns-move-dangerous-illegal-171209185754563.html
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325725 [23:35:44] <ippy> trump has zero respect for international law
325825 [23:36:02] <ippy> it will come back to bite his arse .. bigly
325925 [23:36:32] <A55> congress voted to move it years ago
326025 [23:36:33] <Baimei> the russia mess will engulf him, regardless
326125 [23:36:47] <A55> and every president since has had to defer it in 6 month increments
326225 [23:36:59] <edenaus> nice to see them take time out from killing qataris  and yemenis to Address trump on jerusalem
326325 [23:37:10] <Baimei> the arab league should take it up with trump's superior
326425 [23:38:14] <ippy> trumps hemmeroid .. putin
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326625 [23:38:54] <A55> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act
326725 [23:39:01] <A55> voted through congress in 1995
326825 [23:40:20] <edenaus> look at the Putin hatred, its amazing how easily you lot can be taught to foam at the mouth and show your fangs. Just a few  propaganda pieces in the daily  thought and aggression
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327225 [23:40:36] <Baimei> the movement of the embassy was meant to be used as a bargaining chip to reward israel for coming to a fair agreement with the pals.  trump just gave away the chip for nothing
327325 [23:40:55] <edenaus> And youre not even christian
327425 [23:41:27] <Baimei> putin had trump installed.  why shouldnt we be negative
327525 [23:42:01] <edenaus> because thats s, your leader lost because she was a pig
327625 [23:42:17] <Baimei> he isnt a leader.   he is a boss
327725 [23:43:16] <DrRabbitfoot> 60 million americans voted for trump, putin did nothing but have a go at the usa and you fucking lot take him up on it
327825 [23:43:45] <DrRabbitfoot> there's your fucking collusion
327925 [23:44:09] <edenaus> Poor victims   
328025 [23:44:18] <Baimei> there is plenty of collusion
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328225 [23:44:36] <Baimei> but not if you ignore it all
328325 [23:45:38] <Baimei> the soviets starting "cultivating" him in 1984
328425 [23:47:24] <edenaus> Israel has more influence on  US politics than Russia ever has but you choose to bury yor head in the sand
328525 [23:48:04] <Baimei> not at all
328625 [23:48:33] <edenaus> revenge porn to be made illegal
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329125 [23:48:55] <edenaus>  All these new terms manspreading, revenge porn
329225 [23:49:10] <Baimei> the bush regime was full of dual israel/us citizens
329325 [23:49:18] <edenaus> manstaring
329425 [23:49:25] <DrRabbitfoot> what exactly is revenge porn?
329525 [23:49:31] <Baimei> the trump regime is full of people with close russian ties
329625 [23:50:20] <edenaus> posting nude photos sex acts filmed in private in public usually after couple breaks up
329725 [23:50:23] <Zeno> When did Russia become an enemy of the US?  When Hillary lost
329825 [23:50:43] <edenaus> being sponsored by facebook and twitter
329925 [23:50:47] <DrRabbitfoot> ahhh i get it, thanks for the explanation Edenaus
330025 [23:50:52] <Zeno> Its always interesting to me when I see Clintonites whine about �political bullying� when the spent the last year screaming at everyone who voted for Jill Stein.
330125 [23:50:52] <Zeno> 3 replies 14 retweets 56 likes
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330325 [23:51:55] <DrRabbitfoot> i thought it was something to do with the plot or a porno edenaus, which was my first mistake lol
330425 [23:51:59] <edenaus> Manspreading usually occors in trains busses. Men spreading their legs imposing on personal space of females i guess
330525 [23:54:30] <edenaus> manstaring is  long intense checking out of womens bodies whilst being unattractive to the victim.  Its OK if our good looking i think then its a compliment :)
330625 [23:54:39] <Zeno> "Putin's genius was getting the left to spread fake news. You've probably heard that 'Hillary went a year without holding a press conference while under FBI investigation.' That could easily make people distrust her, but it's fake news. It was only 274 days."
330725 [23:55:04] <Baimei> still on hillary?
330825 [23:55:28] <Zeno> Always Hillary, as long as she continues to speak in public
330925 [23:55:32] <ippy> 10cents per post 
331025 [23:55:43] <Baimei> fox is the king of fake news
331125 [23:56:26] <edenaus> So you engage in hours and hours of back to back Trump circle jerking
331225 [23:56:57] <Baimei> trump continues to do horrific things to destroy our country
331325 [23:57:08] <Baimei> if he could be more laid back, we could take a break
331425 [23:57:27] <Zeno> I support BDS and so should you
331525 [23:57:43] <Zeno> The Democratic Party will not become a vibrant and successful 50 state party ever again.
331625 [23:57:45] <Baimei> its like he goes out of his way to be as obnoxious as possible
331725 [23:58:11] <Zeno> Baimei  and Hillbots fall for it every time.  
331825 [23:58:19] <edenaus> Apple flaw    blank username and password root  enabled many services on Apples latest OS
331925 [23:58:23] <Baimei> i am not a hillbot
332025 [23:58:32] <Baimei> neither are most people on this channel
332125 [23:58:36] <Zeno> Baimei   who said you are a Hillbot?
332225 [23:59:56] <Zeno> Latest on Jane Sanders FBI probe: GOP official disputes claim she �pressured the bank.� It turns out she had a plan in place to balance Burlington College�s books which the college failed to follow up on after she left. In other words: Don�t expect any charges.
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